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A base shell carbon filters will not
remove chloramine.
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I'm putting a chlorine a carbon filter
in my house.
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Cuz I don't want the chlorine. Yep. I
can tell you what, I can walk into the
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people's houses in Minneapolis and St.
Paul, Maplewood, whatever. I walk in, I
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don't even need to test the water. I
don't have to. I can smell it.
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Chlorine and chloramine, either one,
eats all your rubber seals,
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toilet flappers,
washers and faucets, washers and wash
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machines.
It
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deteriorates them and fails them.
And one of the reasons they use
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chloramine is chloramine will go We're
just going to use numbers, so don't hold
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me to this. Chlorine will go 2 miles,
chloramine will go 4.
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So you don't have to have chlorine
inducing pumps
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further and further down your water
systems.
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So if there is a complaint with the
chlorine in the water, I suggest they
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put in carbon. All of this. Absolutely.
And just And I believe Josh, you can
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correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe
the reason why we have chloramine is
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because we have ammonia in our water and
with through the chemical process of the
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NH3,
that's what creates the chlorine to
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chloramine.
Correct?
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I believe that's correct, but it's a
brine question.
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I I don't know what you
>> that I I just wanted to be clear or just
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wanted to state that because I don't
want people to think that we add
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chloramine to our water. We don't. It
just It creates that by a a reaction of
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the of it. So is there any potential
that the Myox system is
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creating more It's There's no potential.
It's the same same end product. It still
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smells the same.
I think that from my perspective, the
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difference that you see is when we were
using our backup and going back and
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forth, you notice a lot more because
it's harder to dial in consistently. So
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the longer you're on when like
we had like the Myox kicking out a lot,
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so we'd be using backup. Um and there is
a shelf life of that of um when it
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starts breaking down in the tank too. So
if it's sitting there, it's not as
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strong as what it was before when you
put it in there. So switching back and
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forth, I will have higher levels. We
haven't had that. Our Myox has been
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working really well. Um
but my perspective on it is no, you
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don't have
higher residual of chloramine because we
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have the Myox system. Okay. And I I just
bring this up because it's it's always a
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a talking point and there's very strict
standards on all of this stuff. And
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there's
all these cities all use chlorine and
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they all have the same process
essentially other than we create our own
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chlorine instead of buying it. I haven't
actually gotten a
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chlorine
uh complaint in a while personally.
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Okay.
Um we're also running the pacing, which
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I think we've ever since we started
that,
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uh
we've had less complaints as far as I've
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gotten.
Um is there areas that are always going
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to get it? Yeah, because you can't have
the chlorine the same everywhere because
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of dead ends and things like that. It's
We try to put in loops and all that,
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which a lot of our is, but we still have
dead ends. So you're going to have worse
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areas than others.
Sure.
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Okay.
I have something I'd like to say about
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that. I don't doubt what Council member
Lundine said about the rubber being ate
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up by the chlorine. And if that's true,
I'd really like to make that information
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available somehow on our website or to
the public to put in a
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carbon filter because I
if I had city water, I would definitely
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be putting in a carbon filter if if that
was an actual problem where it could
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start deteriorating the rubber gaskets
in my washing machine and my
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my uh
toilet tank and anywhere else the water
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may flow that might affect appliance,
dishwasher,
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um
uh
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just But they also That's new
information to me. I didn't know that.
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» toilet flappers. They make specific
toilet flappers for chlorine. Do Do
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water softeners do a similar process
with the chlorine content? None at all?
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Okay. So really you just need a filter a
carbon filter. Okay. You can you can buy
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a carbon cartridge,
but now you're replacing that cartridge
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on a regular basis, and they aren't
cheap.
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It's
I can just tell you I know if I was to
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give somebody a quote through our
company for carbon filters, it's about
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2,800 bucks. It's just like a water
softener. It regenerates automatically
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every 3 days. Okay. And it flushes the
carbon in there
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and keeps it clean and keeps it
generating. Now, you do not want to put
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a carbon filter on a well
because the carbon will hold bacteria in
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it and it will create more bacteria.
You want to put a UV light in. That'll
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help kill the bacteria. Okay. So that
was just my question on that. Um does
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anybody else have any questions on L2 as
far as the emergency repairs? I know we
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talked about this about a year ago.
What are you guys going to do about
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that? Can I just ask a silly Maybe it's
not a silly question. It says they were
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set to expire in 2018, but we weren't
going to replace them until 2028.
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We didn't know they had a 10-year shelf
uh shelf life on those tanks. Okay. So
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the just the
random CIP was
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at 20 Yeah.
>> in the in the CIP plan wasn't correct
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because of the knowledge we didn't have
at the time of putting that into a
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placeholder of 2028. Okay. But this was
scheduled to be replaced like 2 years
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ago and was No, it was scheduled to have
a 20-year shelf life basically or
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um
Yeah, so 2028 was always the expected
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replacement date.
With all of the tanks that were
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installed in 2008, the 20-year life was
kind of what was put on those. As Josh
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has seen with Lyle looking at the other
tanks, not all of them had that 10-year
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expiration, but
just something that was overlooked when
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that plan was kind of getting put
together, so it was given that same
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shelf life. So it was intended for 2028.
When Josh gets the new tanks with a new
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expiration date on it, we're going to
make sure that going forward we're
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staying within that life that is
specified on those certain tanks. Right.
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Okay.
And we had had a pretty long discussion
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about this a year or two ago and and
keeping these systems going. Um
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it's a pretty specialized system, but
it's pretty cool. So
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Uh any questions Any more questions on
L2?
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Otherwise, I have a question on L3
quick, Travis. Uh so will
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» to make a minus solution. No. No, this
is all consent agenda still. Will we be
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assigning an investigator to fill uh
Saba's role while he's filling the
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lieutenant role or is it just kind of
going to be shared or
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how's that set up? I think I laid it a
little bit in there briefly, but no,
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it's uh
we're not going to
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He'll fill both roles and delegate some
of the minor investigations to patrol.
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Okay. Sounds good. Thanks. I can't I
haven't been able to open these files
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and I I'm still not able to, so
>> more so because of he's already working
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that schedule, that shift and yeah, it's
it it's a better fit. But yeah, so we're
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not going to backfill that.
Sounds good. And then for item L4, I had
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another question maybe from Miss Wood.
Uh it seems there's potentially one or
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two additional positions on here for
seasonal than I remember last year
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specifically in administration, I think.
I thought last year we only had one
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seasonal here in city hall. Is that Does
that kind of come and go or did I just
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miss the other ones last year?
>> budgeted. We didn't have people apply
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for them, so
we ended up sharing just because of time
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constraints.
Um we do have more seasonals for public
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works this year, but all the money
dollar amount is staying the same. It's
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just based upon availability. We need
more bodies to fill the shifts.
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Um as we're having younger
um
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younger adults apply for the positions,
they don't have as much availability as
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some people, so we're having more
bodies, but same amount of hours. Okay.
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How about for the Is that the true for
administration in city hall office? I
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think there was three Sounded like three
of them on there that might have been
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here.
>> three budgeted last year too, but we
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ended up sharing a person who kind of
did both. Um we didn't get all the
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projects done that we wanted because we
didn't hire
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an individual for each of the positions
cuz we shared them, but that's just
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basically because we didn't have people
apply.
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Okay. Do you know the total budgetary
amount of those
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three specifically roughly? The admin
one was 5,200. I believe parks was 5,200
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and the EDC D is 3,600
per year. So roughly
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14,800
or 15,000
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roughly, just
14,15,000. Okay.
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All right. Any questions or concerns on
those? Nope.
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Make a motion to approve consent agenda.
Second. Motion by Lundine, second by
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Peterson. All in favor, say aye. Aye.
Any opposed?
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Motion carries 4-0.
Motion to adjourn.
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Second. Motion to adjourn by Council
member Lundine, second by Council member
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Heman. All in favor, say aye. Aye.
Any opposed? Motion carries 5-0. We will
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pick back up into committee of the whole
momentarily.