[0:00] Good evening. I want to welcome all those in the room and online to the September 3rd, Ivan City Council regular meeting.

[0:13] Being held today, I am not Kevin Smith and I don't play him on TV. I am the mayor pro-taim, so I will be acting as mayor. I have a much smaller gavel than you. But it is still powerful.

[0:31] So, thank you all for being here.

[0:35] I'm proud to say that we have a quorum.

[0:38] We have everyone except the mayor.

[0:40] He's taking some family time.

[0:43] And we're going to begin our meeting with a flying salute

[0:47] and an invocation led by Council Member Scott.

[0:50] If you'll please stand if you're able.

[1:07] Let

[1:16] us take a moment to reflect on Labor Day, which we will observe on Monday. Labor Day

[1:23] recognizes the enormous contribution that workers make to our families, our community, and

[1:29] our country. Here in Ivan's people teach, protect, build, repair, create, care, grow,

[1:37] manage, serve, and solve problems.

[1:41] They work with their hands and at desks, outdoors and indoors, travel miles to work

[1:47] and work from home, run businesses and work for others, performing all the necessary jobs

[1:53] that keep our community healthy, moving, and alive every day.

[1:59] A city is governed around this table, but a community is built by the people who work in

[2:05] it.

[2:05] So this evening, let us acknowledge and celebrate everyone who works in every kind of work and thank them for the time, talent and effort.

[2:15] They contribute every day to making Ivan's the community.

[2:19] We are proud to call home.

[2:21] Thank you.

[2:22] Thank you.

[2:25] All right.

[2:26] We'll move forward with Council Disclosures.

[2:28] I'll start with Council Member Pennington.

[2:32] No conflict.

[2:32] Council member.

[2:34] No conflicts.

[2:36] Council member Barton?

[2:37] No conflict.

[2:38] Council member Scott?

[2:39] No conflicts.

[2:39] And I have no conflicts.

[2:41] We'll start first with two A.

[2:44] Our Department reports.

[2:46] Mr. Mark Christensen.

[2:47] Parks and Recreation will call you at first.

[2:54] I apologize for the miscommunication.

[2:56] I thought I, well, my cent in box showed I had cent at the Gary,

[3:01] but she never received it.

[3:03] So that's why it's late.

[3:04] But all good news in the Parks and Recreation Department,

[3:09] we have a recreation intern who started.

[3:11] Jonathan Gonzales, this is third week.

[3:15] We've had meetings with like Santa Clara to see if we can use

[3:19] their pick-a-ball courts to start this fall pick-a-ball league.

[3:22] It's something that he's really wanting to get started.

[3:25] And so he's already bringing some good programs

[3:29] to the city.

[3:31] Should be fun.

[3:33] And then we had our movies in the park, most of them were held, but cars was not held because lightning came.

[3:44] I'm an appropriate.

[3:46] So we did have to cancel that August 14th movie, which was sad.

[3:51] And then we are all full.

[3:54] I'll fill that in our volleyball league.

[3:56] league, it starts the Monday after Heritage Days, and then Flood Ball starts the Wednesday after

[4:03] Heritage Days, and those leagues are filled up as well.

[4:09] And then we are geared up for Heritage Days, so next week, Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

[4:16] Thursday, Friday, Saturday, the schedules in the report.

[4:20] We'd love to see as many of the events as you can make it to.

[4:24] But definitely, as Sharon has been reminding the council, the dinner on Friday night and the parade on Saturday morning for sure.

[4:36] But we're super excited for the event. We love the theme. We love the red white and blue. It fits into this year.

[4:44] We have as many parade entries as we had last year. Almost as many booths I think we'll get there.

[4:52] So everything's filling up and it's going to be a fun, it's going to be a fun time.

[4:56] We have a lot of good sponsors, their banners are up on.

[5:00] How are we 91 and on center street? And we appreciate everybody who pitches in and helps us with heritage days.

[5:11] For the parks department,

[5:14] one of the big things we're going to take down the traffic control for the hamble and round about probably tomorrow or Saturday.

[5:22] And at least our side of it, it looks like they're still doing some trail work on their side of it.

[5:27] But our cones are the ones on the center.

[5:31] And that looked good.

[5:33] I think everything went well.

[5:35] They worked well with us for the installation of the roundabout.

[5:40] We will update later on the community garden.

[5:44] So we'll just skip that for now.

[5:49] But everybody's here, mostly healthy.

[5:51] We've had a couple of small incidents to one of our employees

[5:57] kind of smashed his wrist.

[5:58] And so he's on light duty, but he'll be okay.

[6:01] I don't know if he was broken or anything.

[6:03] But we're trying to stay safe, and as safe as we can,

[6:07] but they do a lot of physical labor,

[6:09] and it just comes with the jobs sometimes.

[6:13] So any questions?

[6:15] know that I think you beat my number of sponsors achieved. So this is awesome. This is

[6:24] the most we've ever had. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah. People are willing to

[6:30] support in a little bit to help it be a good event. So we appreciate it.

[6:35] Anything else, Council? Thank you, Mark.

[6:39] Thanks.

[6:41] Next up, Chief Sudley, Public Safety.

[6:49] Thank you, Mayor Proofton and Council.

[6:53] You have my report.

[6:53] I just want to go to some additional things that weren't on there.

[6:57] We met with the Public Safety Work Group this past week, and it felt like a very productive

[7:02] conversation that we had.

[7:05] I was asked to highlight an employee, and so this comes on the heels of a birth that was yesterday.

[7:10] So, Officer Britten-Tobler and his wife Bernice gave birth to their first son, Boe-Tobler.

[7:15] Seven pounds, two ounces, 20 and a quarter inches long.

[7:19] So, tell me, healthy baby boy.

[7:20] Congratulations.

[7:21] All the boys, we're going to have five babies born this year in the department.

[7:24] I guess that we know of.

[7:27] So far.

[7:29] Officer Bartreff is off of FTO, and he is working a patrol shift.

[7:34] We did some active threat training at RVU for their staff.

[7:37] that was well attended by their stuff, their staff.

[7:41] And we had city manager chucked you a lot of

[7:43] a tent, it was neat for him to see us in action.

[7:47] We are getting ready for Heritage Day, Swiss days

[7:49] and the PGA.

[7:50] So we are in full swing of special events.

[7:52] There's no shortage of special events

[7:54] for our police department fire department cities

[7:57] to engage in.

[7:58] And then I wanted to highlight two different speed studies.

[8:01] That was brought up to maybe you guys

[8:04] would want to see what those are.

[8:06] So we had a request to put it on 200 South and Kovasa.

[8:11] On that speed study, there was 4,502 vehicles and it shows an enforceability rating as low.

[8:20] But 4% of the vehicles that were driving on that road were speeding the average or the mean for vehicles traveling on a 30 mile an hour road was 29.9 miles an hour.

[8:32] However, the fastest was 59, and I don't know that that wasn't chief, because they're.

[8:39] People, is this a request by a resident or okay? Yeah, thank you. And then the second one was that we'd

[8:45] place it on for an orphan to a country. And again, those stay up for seven days. If people want them longer,

[8:51] kind of gives us a better perspective for the week. But we just did these at a week

[8:56] in duration, because we've had lots of requests for them. So this one again, the speed,

[9:00] It was at, yeah, 400 North 200, I've speed limit's posted at 30.

[9:06] It gave us a rating in the median.

[9:12] So again, 30 miles an hour is a speed limit.

[9:14] The average speed was 33.1 miles an hour.

[9:19] So 11% of the violations on that road are enforceable.

[9:23] And again, I'm saying it's probably a fire truck.

[9:26] 69 miles an hour was the fastest one there.

[9:30] And Chief, if a resident would like to request a traffic study, how do they do that?

[9:36] Call me, text me.

[9:39] Well, email, how about that?

[9:40] Oh, you're welcome.

[9:41] Chase Dudley.

[9:41] Ivan's Utah.

[9:42] Come.

[9:43] Swing by the office.

[9:45] Let's talk about it and we'll go from there.

[9:46] We'll see if there's been one done in that area in the past year and then we'll look at

[9:51] both of those when we do no one.

[9:53] So, yeah, always looking for areas to put those up.

[9:55] And then, from the results, I'm gathering that there was nothing...

[10:00] Dramaticly concerning on your end, or are the things we always get complaints at people coming into and out of the state park for right there. So yeah, absolutely. But yeah, the citizen that asked for Uncle Vasu was talking about it being a raceway. But again, if there was, what was it?

[10:22] 4% of the traffic would have been enforceable for violations that puts it in the lower risk. Doesn't mean we won't sit there, right?

[10:29] means that we'll look at other areas too and do our best to be everywhere once.

[10:37] Council any other questions?

[10:41] Thank you Chief.

[10:41] Thank you.

[10:42] Thank you for all you and your team do.

[10:46] Chief Cousier, Fire EMS report.

[10:53] Do you have anything to say for yourself?

[10:58] I don't think it was one of the fire apparatus that could have been me.

[11:04] I doubt it.

[11:05] I don't usually drive that fast unless I'm following him.

[11:11] We both go that fast.

[11:13] Well played.

[11:15] As you look through our response call volume in the numbers percentages,

[11:22] interesting this month.

[11:24] Usually the percentages between Santa Clara and Ivan are not quite this close,

[11:28] but you'll see that they're almost even for the month.

[11:33] And we continue to be a little busier than normal.

[11:37] I don't know if this is going to stay this way,

[11:39] or if it's going to trail off at some point.

[11:43] I've just seen to do that.

[11:46] Just to kind of echo a couple of things that

[11:49] she said we didn't meet this week for the public safety

[11:52] work group meeting, and it was a great meeting.

[11:55] A couple of you guys were there, and thought it went well.

[11:59] We planned the balance of the meetings throughout the year, as well as our joint meeting

[12:07] with Santa Clara, so it should be a good time.

[12:09] We'll hold that at the fire station, give tours of the station, give an update, kind

[12:15] of a state of the two departments update for the year we're looking forward to it.

[12:21] A couple of the grants we're working on, you guys all know about the safer grant.

[12:26] It October can't get here quick enough.

[12:29] With that said, that's the beginning of the rounds of when they'll notify us who's being awarded.

[12:37] I hope we're near the front, but we'll take it if we can get it.

[12:42] Again, with that, as you know, we've had three positions budgeted this year.

[12:47] If we're lucky enough to get the safer we'll get, we'll double that, go to six, which will be phenomenal.

[12:55] Another grant we're working on is kind of newer grants called the Rural Health Transformation Program Grant.

[13:01] It's a five-year grant. It's a federal money, but it's done managed through the state.

[13:07] And we are, it's an EMS grant.

[13:11] And we are requesting a little over a million dollars in a five-year span, which will be amazing.

[13:18] who knows what they'll approve and what they won't.

[13:21] We'll get some money for sure, but we just don't know

[13:24] to what point.

[13:25] So we feel like we've maxed out our requests

[13:28] as far as EMS equipment and apparatus go.

[13:32] So more to come on that, that says this is kind of the same

[13:35] timeline up to over no member on the more on that.

[13:40] We have three of our firefighters in Paramedic School,

[13:43] And that is on that downhill back side, 75% complete right now, and it's a lot of time commitment.

[13:56] And I know those three are ready to be closer to the 100% mark, but they've all done amazing work in doing really well.

[14:06] This week yesterday, we advertised for our part-time admin assistant for the Fire Department.

[14:14] We're super excited to go through the list of applicants and select somebody and it will help me out immensely.

[14:24] Talk a little bit about deployments, where we've done 13 deployments for the year.

[14:29] We've been on a lot more than 13 fires, but 13 major deployments.

[14:34] crew just came back this week from the Crony fire, which is in Nevada near Italy, and then

[14:40] there's a Utah Task Force, they put together with different departments in Utah, and

[14:45] they're in Texas right now. They're not assigned to a specific fire today, but in those task

[14:52] force they'll go and hit several fires, and they do have some larger fires and we could

[14:58] and upon one of those, but as of today.

[15:00] They were kind of a mobile unit. It's not specifically assigned to a single fire. And with that,

[15:11] they've told us to expect what they call cruise swaps. So, at deployments 14 days, if we do a cruise swap,

[15:18] it'll be 14. They'll get three days of our yarn and then another 14. So, they'll be gone for more than a month.

[15:25] Lots and lots of activities and different things going on.

[15:30] Obviously we talked about here days and super excited for that.

[15:34] There's bike races, Swiss days, EGA.

[15:39] There are a lot of events going on in the two cities right now.

[15:44] One of the things that we're super excited about that doesn't come along very often is

[15:50] there's a home in Santa Clara that's going to be torn down.

[15:52] And so our crews have been training on it in their break-in walls and cutting holes and dragging people out and filling up full smoke.

[16:00] We have a smoke machine. It's not, we're not having a lid on fire.

[16:05] But we feel a full smoke, blindfold firefighters, then in their search for a victim, find them, and then pull them out.

[16:13] Breaching walls, forcible entry, we'll get to the point where we're going to cut holes in the roof and break windows, but we're not quite there yet.

[16:22] We just want to beat the police department to that because we know if they get in there.

[16:27] There's no saying what's going to happen.

[16:32] And that is, the balance of my report, he has have any questions for me.

[16:36] How many phone calls have you got from concerned residents?

[16:39] We've got in the area.

[16:40] But do you wait till we break the windows and get a hold on the roof?

[16:43] We'll get a lot more.

[16:46] I can imagine.

[16:46] Council, any questions?

[16:48] No questions.

[16:49] Thank you.

[16:51] We'll give you a little bit more update counsel on the meeting and steps going forward when we get to that item on the agenda a little bit later.

[17:04] Next up is our planning commissioner Perry Brown.

[17:11] Mayor Pro Tim and other council members.

[17:14] Nice to be able to talk with you this evening.

[17:17] We had a relatively short meeting that we got locked down in one place and I'll tell you what that is.

[17:24] But we started with discussion of amendments and modifications to accessory dwelling unit ordinance.

[17:34] And most of the changes proposed there are editorial or to comply with new state law.

[17:43] But we got into a significant discussion about labels and definition of tiny homes, modular homes, manufactured houses, and things like that.

[17:54] And so we have asked Rob to go back and make sure that there's consistency in the document in different places where these are mentioned.

[18:02] There seemed to be a feeling that a lot of this thing ought to be manufactured homes.

[18:11] But anyway, he's going to work through that and see, and I think it would work for the city attorney as well.

[18:16] So, make sure they understand exactly what all these different definitions are, but we spend a lot of time on that.

[18:22] One thing in the rest of it looked really good.

[18:26] So, we're pretty happy with that, and I think that'll come to you pretty soon.

[18:30] Anyway, the second thing that we dealt with was we talked a little bit about and up I had an update on the data and information for the land use map exercise

[18:41] We talked a little bit about the information that we got from Councilman Scott with regard to things that are in the general plan that relate to this particular exercise

[18:53] And then we spend just a little bit of time talking about some very preliminary information with regard to the business survey that's going on

[19:00] And so we got an understanding of those new things in addition to all the other things that

[19:05] we had asked for off the work on already.

[19:08] So that was pretty good.

[19:09] And finally, the thing that we talked about a little bit was the home business ordinance that

[19:17] Kade Visor is working on right now.

[19:20] And with regard to that, we made it very clear that Kade has a lot of examples from other cities

[19:29] within Utah. None of those examples are duplicates of each other. Some have one

[19:35] thing, some have another. He's gone through all those. I've looked at some of them,

[19:40] so that we've got an idea of what some of the things are that the cities are doing,

[19:44] trying to figure out which ones fit our particular needs, particularly so that we can be

[19:49] fairly flexible to be attractive to people for things that really do fit in

[19:55] with in this community and so what Kate's going to do then is he's

[20:00] Going to take this information that he's been developing, he's going to give us a draft and then we'll go through things to add, to subtract, to modify and that and we'll probably go a couple rounds on that before we have something to come to you.

[20:15] Awesome.

[20:16] Anyway, it's underway.

[20:17] So that's what we're doing and that's what our meeting was about.

[20:21] So thanks, any questions at all?

[20:22] Any questions, council?

[20:24] No.

[20:25] Great.

[20:25] great job. Thank you. If this time we're going to look at item three,

[20:31] a citizen comment and request for future agenda items, we do have a request tonight from

[20:37] Fred Bernbaum. Fred, come on up.

[20:42] Good evening, Madam Mayor and City Council members.

[20:44] My name is Fred Bernbaum. I'm an Ivan's resident. My request and comment is tied to the annexation

[20:52] of the CITLA property adjacent into go trails, and specifically this is obviously a very important

[20:59] item before the city council.

[21:02] My request is that the discussion and vote for the CITLA should be noticed for dates

[21:08] certain several weeks in advance to allow proper public input.

[21:16] Any questions?

[21:17] Now, I just want to let you know, this will be on many future agendas, there's no question

[21:21] about it.

[21:22] And right now, Chuck has some additional information, but right now we're waiting on

[21:25] settler to get back to us so we can schedule the next one.

[21:29] And then public hearings are scheduled according to law.

[21:33] How far in advance are those scheduled carry two weeks?

[21:39] Thank you.

[21:40] Chuck?

[21:41] So yeah, I was going to save us from my report at the end of the meeting, but I'll go ahead

[21:44] and just report on some updates regarding the settler property.

[21:49] I've been trying to get a hold of Aaron Langston for a few days.

[21:53] We finally were able to connect this week.

[21:56] And I had a really good conversation with him.

[22:00] And we remind everybody who Aaron Langston is kind of the, I don't know, kind of, I don't know.

[22:08] He's the settler guy.

[22:09] He works for settler.

[22:10] Okay.

[22:11] He's not one of the developers.

[22:12] So it wasn't TJ and Bracken that we're giving the presentations for the developer, he represents

[22:20] Silla.

[22:22] We did have an interesting conversation about this Steve Waldrup quote,

[22:29] where the states threatening to take away funding with people don't work with Silla on projects.

[22:38] Although I will say regarding Steve Waldrup's comment,

[22:41] He made it pretty clear that it was important to have conversations and discussions and I think that's what we're doing and so I

[22:50] You know, I don't know what the governor's thinking about Ivan's, but anyway

[22:54] Aaron brought that up brought up. Yeah, I'm sure you heard that you know and and anyway

[22:59] We had a great conversation

[23:01] He said one of their problems is they were struggling. I just as we need a revised plan

[23:07] So that we can keep moving on this

[23:10] They were struggling to come up with revised plan because they weren't, you know, there was some mixed messages, I guess, in that meeting where we had the last meeting where we kind of did our internal meeting and we gave them some feedback, but so I think they're kind of just kind of wrestling with that right now.

[23:32] What are they going to propose next?

[23:35] What is their next plan going to look like?

[23:38] So I hope to see something soon.

[23:40] But right now we don't even know where they're going with it.

[23:43] If they're going to take some of our feedback and do all low density residential,

[23:48] or if they're going to say no, we want to do something else.

[23:52] Anyway, we're waiting for them.

[23:55] The ball is in their court.

[23:57] And until we see a revised plan,

[24:00] We really don't have anything to do right now with it.

[24:05] Thank you.

[24:05] I did have a good conversation with Steve Waldrup this week up at the conference about

[24:09] that situation.

[24:10] It's not just Sittla.

[24:12] It's a lot of different aspects to it, but Sittla is one part of that challenge up there.

[24:17] Mike, did you have any comments or questions?

[24:19] You good?

[24:20] Council any other questions?

[24:22] All right.

[24:22] Thank you, Fred.

[24:25] Moving on to item 4A, public hearing.

[24:28] We get to my right peep construction here.

[24:35] We are, sorry about that,

[24:45] we are having a public hearing to discuss, amending the standard

[24:51] specifications for design and construction CCPH, in conjunction with ordinance 2026-8.

[25:00] Mr. Tom Jorgensen, do you want to open this up and then we'll open the public hearing?

[25:06] Tom Jorgensen, good evening, Mayor Potem and other council members. We appreciate you being with us here tonight.

[25:16] I don't know how much of an introduction you'd like for this before the public hearing, but every so often we have minor and sometimes major changes to our standard specifications.

[25:29] Today we're coming forward with quite a few changes that have been built up over the past several maybe ten years and we're just trying to get them all kind of push through so if there's any questions from the public I'd be happy to answer

[25:46] Okay

[25:48] With that we will open the public hearing and anyone that would like to come forward and make any comments regarding the specifications changes please do

[25:58] and state your name and your address.

[26:05] Okay.

[26:07] Thank you.

[26:08] Thank you.

[26:10] Nobody on Zoom.

[26:12] All right.

[26:12] With that, last call, we will close the public hearing and move forward to item 4B discussing

[26:21] consider approval of ordinance 202618, an ordinance of Ivan City Utah adopting the construction

[26:27] specifications.

[26:33] Mayor.

[26:33] Council?

[26:33] Yes, for my own knowledge, time I just have a couple questions for you.

[26:39] I'm enlisting back through the Planning Commission meeting on this.

[26:45] There is no cost that's going to be any increase cost to the city at this point for making these changes.

[26:57] For the city directly?

[26:58] Yeah.

[27:01] That is questionable.

[27:03] So for instance some of our roadways we've increased the asphalt width for different like a collector versus an arterial.

[27:17] So if we go an inch thicker in our standards that's a additional cost to the city.

[27:23] So there's things like that throughout.

[27:27] Typically, if we're improving a standard, there is likely a cost increase associated with that.

[27:35] How much of these are significant cost increases?

[27:39] I would say none of them.

[27:42] But yeah, here in there there are some increases to the developer and to the city because sometimes we do our own installations for roads or pipelines or infrastructure.

[27:54] and this was a lot of work that your department did and I just want to make certain

[28:00] I understand like with the trench backfill and repair, the red cloud is completely

[28:08] around the entire page so that means that we're changing the policy or the procedure.

[28:15] Yeah, it did not exist before and so it's a new detail that we're adding in there.

[28:21] more for clarification, sometimes a picture says something words do, but does it in a better way?

[28:28] So that's one of those instances where we've added a whole new detail.

[28:34] You probably ought to mention like before we were relying on the standard specification from APWA,

[28:40] and we decided part of this was deciding that we wanted our own detail that we could have more control over exactly what it says.

[28:50] Okay.

[28:50] Council member Pennington.

[28:52] So I'd like to say what probably every one of us up here is thinking and not saying,

[28:57] we're not experts in this, we don't understand it.

[29:00] It's a little bit like clicking on the, yes, I agree to all of Apple's requirements,

[29:06] because even iPhone, which turns out to be hundreds of pages long.

[29:10] But we have a lot of faith in our staff, having done a good job, but we also rely,

[29:18] I think on the developers and builders in the community that if they think something is wrong, of course

[29:25] they'll go to you first to say, are you kidding me?

[29:28] But then they should come to us.

[29:31] Some of us enjoyed reading parts of it.

[29:33] It was enlightening to see how you do a trench.

[29:37] It really is exciting.

[29:39] But I would have no idea whether that's the best way to build a trench,

[29:43] or the best compromise between cost and safety and durability and so on.

[29:50] But anyway, so I think from a 50,000 foot level, we have confidence that you've done a good job,

[29:57] but we'd like to have feedback from people who...

[30:02] I could definitely pass that message along. We have been soft imposing a lot of these requirements over the past while anyways, letting developers know that this is our standard that's coming. We'd like you to do it. Typically, we don't get any pushback because it's not a significant cost increase, it's just kind of a difference in some of these standards.

[30:30] if there are oppositions, yeah, well, definitely give you that feedback.

[30:34] I would second Wayne's comments.

[30:37] It was like reading Greek for the most part, not my core strength, and I agree, I have full

[30:45] faith in both our former public work director and our current public work director that this

[30:52] is fair and equitable for everyone involved, and if it's not, they'll tell us.

[30:56] Mayor is going to add to I reached out to a bunch of contractors just asking like what is

[31:00] the standard like is this normal is this too much is this not enough and it sounds like

[31:05] for the most part of the majority of what we're approving tonight or potentially going to

[31:09] approve is the standard amongst the other cities too is that kind of what you've gathered is

[31:14] this is just a norm and we're kind of getting caught up to speed that's correct yeah

[31:19] the most part mayor yes and at the last meeting we did talk about this and there were a few

[31:24] issues that I brought up that you talked about in some detail and really clarified that

[31:31] this is normal. It doesn't really add additional costs to a development in most cases,

[31:37] specifically on the changes for the underground storm drainage, the water service sizing,

[31:42] and bonding requirements. So the last meeting, probably two meetings, three meetings ago,

[31:48] when we talked about this, there is some more information there.

[31:52] Yeah.

[31:52] Give me other questions, concerns, comments.

[31:57] I will.

[31:57] I will make a motion.

[31:58] When you're ready.

[31:59] May I add motion to approve ordinance number 2026-18 and ordinance of Ivan City, Utah,

[32:06] adopting construction specifications.

[32:08] Second.

[32:09] I have a motion with a second.

[32:11] I'm going to do a real call vote.

[32:13] Council member Scott.

[32:15] Council member Barton.

[32:17] Council member Hurt.

[32:17] I.

[32:18] Council member Fannington.

[32:19] Hi.

[32:20] And I'm an I.

[32:21] Thank you.

[32:23] Motion's passed.

[32:27] All right.

[32:28] Moving into section five discussion and potential action items.

[32:32] I think we have a very special presentation coming forward regarding Mojavier State's

[32:39] part.

[32:39] There was an article and I think it was the July newsletter I can't remember about this.

[32:45] And their team is here to share more.

[32:48] So I would ask whoever is making this presentation and involve to please come forward.

[32:52] Tell us who you are and tell us about what's going on. The pictures were incredible

[32:59] Okay, I might have if it's all right. Can we have anyone who's representing the park and our co-op want to stand up?

[33:07] So these are some of the faces behind not everybody could be here. We're very active in the community

[33:12] We got a lot of people at football and baseball and basketball whatever else

[33:16] Whatever ball and

[33:17] classes and theater so not everybody's here, but thanks

[33:21] So tell us about the genesis of this project.

[33:24] All right. Well, these guys have prepared a whole case.

[33:27] So here we go.

[33:28] Can you afford to do sure so?

[33:29] Oh, yeah. Tell us who you are.

[33:31] Who are you?

[33:32] Yeah.

[33:33] Hi, I'm Luke.

[33:34] Hi, Luke.

[33:36] Now I'm going to introduce this.

[33:39] Hello.

[33:40] We are up in Adam.

[33:42] We're a homeschool co-op made up of seven families with kids ranging from about six to 15.

[33:49] We've been learning together for about five years.

[33:54] We do regular school subjects, but we also spend a lot of time doing hands-on things like cooking,

[34:00] sewing, gardening, sports, and other things where it's interested in.

[34:08] Our house is right next to the park on Main Street, so we use the park quite a lot.

[34:17] And that's where this idea starts.

[34:26] Can you hear it's fine, dude?

[34:28] Drive.

[34:29] If you can't, it's okay.

[34:31] I don't know.

[34:32] I'll tell you all about it.

[34:34] All right, let's go to scroll down.

[34:35] There we go.

[34:35] We have it on our little iPads, too.

[34:39] We started talking about what we would want in the park if we could improve it.

[34:43] At first, we were thinking about a better playground, more shade, water and places to sit.

[34:47] But as we talk to more, our idea's got bigger.

[34:50] We started thinking about having places for classes, performances, art community events, and opportunities for kids learn about business.

[34:57] We always want to just talk a lot of playground anywhere where you're talking about.

[35:00] We're creating a space where we can come together.

[35:04] I want to go to the slide. I didn't plan the slide to think with this, but slide four would be great. Okay, there's some of our co-op kids in all of our names.

[35:10] What does it mean? And then you can keep going. So the next slide shows the park today.

[35:18] A little background, this park burnt down. It had a very small set of playground equipment that was proper for these guys when we first built.

[35:25] and they were tiny, tiny, but it melted and so now we're excited to rebuild.

[35:32] When we first presented this idea of the city council member, Mike Scott and Mark

[35:36] Christianson and Tiffany Winn, and the city youth council, we didn't really know where

[35:42] it would go.

[35:42] The concept was so well received though that those present approved us to move forward with planning,

[35:48] designing and grants of missions.

[35:49] We were so graciously offered by the represent representatives of the city council of labor and support as we move forward.

[35:58] So we've also partnered with Ivan's Inspired and Tiffany has been such a great help to us in helping us work with grants and networking and budgeting and connecting with resources.

[36:10] She has since updated and we told all the kids this last week at our co-op that we received our first grant and it was for two thousand five hundred dollars from the get healthy Utah

[36:20] Social Connection learning collaborative and mouthful, but so exciting

[36:26] It's not enough to rebuild the whole park, of course, but it's an important first step and we'll help us begin the planning and design process and the kids were very excited

[36:34] Because that sounds like a lot of money

[36:38] That's fantastic

[36:40] I'm Brisbane.

[36:41] Hi, Brisbane.

[36:44] We're working on getting pictures made of what the park could look like.

[36:48] We're hoping to work with the same artists who did the rendering for the new fire department.

[36:54] Okay, so as part of that, we're one of the most exciting things was that we're hoping

[37:00] that we're not hoping we're excited that the kids are becoming a part of every single part

[37:04] of this.

[37:05] And going forward, we have several kids that are interested in art and architecture.

[37:09] Anyone want to raise their hand? Who's interested in art and architecture? We have quite a few engineering, earth science and all of which

[37:17] They'll have firsthand experience from this project. After our first meeting with Mike Scott, we got some future city council members here

[37:25] Igor, can you go to slide? I think it's like the last slide. Like almost the last slide.

[37:32] Where they're all sitting at the table with.

[37:34] We're going to come back. We'll come back to these great drawings. Keep going. Keep going.

[37:39] Right there. Right, sorry. Second to last.

[37:42] So we've got some future city council members that are eager to sit in those big cushy spinny chairs and that hell a long table and

[37:50] Really make a difference in the community. So two of our youth have also joined recently joined the Ivan City Youth Council as a result of their

[37:58] experience interacting with the council. So it's so cool. So excited for that to be

[38:03] part of their education and learning how to take their amazing ideas and turn them

[38:08] into a reality. So the youth are leading this vision, the vision for this project and

[38:13] they're learning how to develop that vision into something practical and useful and sustainable.

[38:24] The, well, sorry. The playground is actually a pretty small part of what we're hoping

[38:30] to create. The main idea is an outdoor community classroom. It would be used for homeschool

[38:34] classes, art, nature and gardening, performances, speakers, music, or kids teaching other kids.

[38:40] We're also looking at things like a nature walk, shaded play areas, drinking fountains and

[38:44] water excess, heart surface, play in gathering areas like electrical hookups and spaces for local

[38:50] art and murals. We want it to be useful for all ages and abilities. Chuck, can you scroll up to the

[38:56] one that says community garden in nature walk? Because that's kind of where the pictures start and

[39:00] I don't want everybody to see all these fabulous things they created.

[39:03] There you go.

[39:05] And originally, we, I mean, we'll talk about, sorry, we'll talk about this soon.

[39:09] But originally, the kids knew about the community garden getting taken down quite a few of

[39:14] the families planted there and have been active and they were sad to hear it was going.

[39:18] So they tried really hard to incorporate into our tiny little space, the community garden.

[39:23] So it started with that, but it sounds like some things will change, but we're really excited

[39:27] about changing.

[39:28] Yeah.

[39:29] Tell me more.

[39:31] One of

[39:34] our favorite days is having a small market stands around the park kids could use them

[39:40] to sell things they've made grown or created.

[39:43] We love to eventually have use market days kind of like a menu to a con market but for

[39:48] kids.

[39:49] It would give kids a chance to learn about business by doing it.

[39:54] They would practice planning, creating, budgeting, marketing, and working with the

[39:59] love.

[40:00] Look, excellent. Good job.

[40:07] Looks feeling left out. Luke, right here, drew this one. He's very proud of it.

[40:11] We're very proud of that. It's going to be really cool. It's on the corner right by our house.

[40:16] As the youth developed this project, we want to learn from the community.

[40:20] So we're planning, like, a get together, barbecue at the park. Once we have some, we're aiming for early November.

[40:27] So it's nice and cool. But we wanted to get feedback on their ideas and also get ideas from the community

[40:32] and let the kids really show how excited they are about this project.

[40:37] Oh, that's your pitch.

[40:44] The

[40:47] part already has a history of bringing us together.

[40:52] Our neighborhood has hosted a community Halloween party

[40:57] for the past 12 years.

[41:01] 12 years, that's quite a long time.

[41:03] Are you that old?

[41:07] We love for the new part to be able to support events like that with places for tables and chairs and watered electricity gathering spaces.

[41:27] We don't want this to just be part for our group or just for little kids.

[41:31] We want families to use it, teenagers, grandparents and people with all abilities.

[41:34] We want it to be placed, we can come together across generations and cultures, share things, and learn from each other.

[41:42] We have a clear vision for the park, and we want to make sure that vision is informed by the people who will use it.

[41:49] Okay, so as we move forward, there are a lot of ways I know some community members are here, so this is for you guys.

[41:55] But we want to get everybody involved, so we're excited about our upcoming barbecue, we're talking about maybe a market day where kids can sell some stuff and give an idea of what we'd like the park to be used for.

[42:05] But we'll continue applying for grants and looking for funding, we'll need businesses, artists, contractors, volunteers, donors, and people with useful skills and connections.

[42:15] We also welcome people who can help us understand the practical side of building and maintaining a project like this.

[42:21] The youth will continue leading the vision and directing the park, but our goal is to give them real life experience, taking an idea for a beginning stages through planning, fundraising, design, and eventually construction.

[42:33] So we hope you'll support them by sharing everything that you have to offer.

[42:37] We know we have a lot of very talented people in our community.

[42:40] So do you guys have any questions for these guys or me?

[42:44] Well first of all, thank you and congratulations to all of you and thank you for coming

[42:48] and taking the time to teach us and tell us about this.

[42:51] I'd seen these pictures when the article was being worked on and they're just fantastic.

[42:56] And I love your, I love your inspirations and your ideas and your, your energy behind it.

[43:05] Council any questions?

[43:06] Mayor, um, what's the goal for how much you want to fundraise or how much you need to make this come to life?

[43:12] That's a really great question.

[43:14] My personal mind doesn't wrap around numbers super well, so I have someone that we also are still looking at that.

[43:22] We recognize that it can happen in stages like this first grant we're so excited just to see the progress there the main focus for that will be the corner market stands

[43:32] Okay, and then we're also looking at maybe first installing there is culinary water and so maybe first focusing on getting funding for a drinking fountain

[43:39] Which the kids would all love to have and then just working in stages so one of those little steps whatever we can accomplish as we go and then we did apply for a

[43:51] a couple of grants. We had a ton of help from Ivan's inspired. We didn't quite get the big one that we're aiming for, and so the kids got really excited though, and we started making videos of them commenting about what they love and what they want, hoping to get more attention in the next grant proposal.

[44:07] And then one more comment for the youth, like I just want you to know how cool it is what you're doing and that you can make a difference like this is how change happens and it doesn't matter what your age is, it doesn't matter what your vision is, just follow your goals, be involved with your community and you can make things happen here in Ivan's and in the world so I really think it's cool what you're doing.

[44:28] Thank you.

[44:29] Great.

[44:29] And let's make sure that we get all of the notices all over social media.

[44:34] We have a new Ivan City Facebook page that we're getting up and running and wherever we

[44:41] can put it in the newsletter on social media, whatever we'll do blasts.

[44:46] Thank you.

[44:47] Thank you.

[44:47] Yes.

[44:47] Councilor.

[44:48] This is an ambitious project that you're envisioning, and it's very exciting.

[44:54] It's just absolutely wonderful pursuit.

[44:56] But, and I've spent some time with this up and...

[45:00] And Adam Home School Group, and I'll tell you, they will accomplish whatever they set out to do.

[45:06] Thank you, Mike.

[45:08] Good. Thank you all very much. Appreciate it.

[45:12] Good job.

[45:21] Next up, under number five, B is discussion regarding the new location for a community garden.

[45:28] Located behind this proposed part. So we're already starting to get the part going.

[45:34] Mark Richardson.

[45:36] Yes, so as you can see on this aerial map, the part that they've been talking about is on Main Street called Mojavea State's Park.

[45:47] And Tiffany and Chuck and Joseph met with the land owner Steve Camp,

[45:55] who owns that piece of the highlighted piece of property right behind the park

[46:00] as well as the property to the north of that, and he is conceptually willing to allow us to

[46:11] develop something on that park, but almost kind of like the community garden that we currently have,

[46:20] it would be as long as he's not doing anything with the property. So we wouldn't we wouldn't

[46:27] the property. But we could do something to develop it. So we don't have the cost estimate for it

[46:35] now. We needed him to sign off on this conceptual drawing first. Some of the major costs involved

[46:44] with this would be getting the irrigation line where it needs to go. We as a parks department

[46:51] would love to have a greenhouse for the city. We could do a lot of replanting, filling in holes in our

[47:00] in our current landscapes. And we could grow them all from seedlings and Joseph has experience

[47:07] up with it. He was the greenhouse guy in St. George for a couple of years. So we'd love to have a

[47:13] greenhouse as part of this. So it would need some power to it. So we think the power getting the power

[47:20] there would be a pretty decent cost and then getting the irrigation lines, but like we did

[47:28] down at the community garden, we could level the ground reasonable cost, all the wood

[47:35] chips would be donated from local landscape companies. So we could mulch it, we would have

[47:44] up and add them group as well as the gardeners, help us mark, mark and stake out plots, Mike Scott has some experience with that, so we had to lean on his experience.

[47:57] So I don't know what it would cost, but it could be super exciting for the next at least five years.

[48:04] What we have in our initial agreement but again Steve has to sign off on it is that it would

[48:12] be for sure five years and after that it would just keep rolling one year terms but he would

[48:21] just have to give us like six months and then we could let the gardeners know that you know

[48:26] six months this this is going to go back to the to the property owner is this St George city council

[48:32] Steve Camp? No, he's a resident of Ivan's. He's been on Ivan's inspired and yeah, so this would be a lease.

[48:42] This would be, yeah, and what we have in the initial agreement, again Steve has to agree to it.

[48:51] And from our understanding from the meeting is he would just kind of allow us to use this land without us paying him.

[48:59] But we would have better, but we would have to put in all of the infrastructure.

[49:03] Sure, sure.

[49:05] So, Mayor?

[49:06] Yes.

[49:07] Mark, could you or maybe Lorraine speak to how popular successful the current community garden is?

[49:14] Yeah, I'll speak to when I got here in 2024 it was in the middle of the summer and we had one gardener at the community garden and it was a weed nightmare.

[49:26] And I'll let Lorraine speak to the last two years.

[49:29] Lorraine come on up.

[49:34] And Lorraine Sanders is our volunteer garden master or has been for the last two years

[49:40] making this garden stress successful.

[49:42] And I can't stand you're moving. Who told you you could do that?

[49:46] Well, not certainly not Mike.

[49:49] Not certainly not.

[49:51] Yeah, the garden's been very popular.

[49:53] We've had a full garden for the past two years now.

[49:57] Interestingly, we had one lady who had...

[50:00] To drop out earlier this year because of health problems on part of her husband. But she was so excited by the whole gardening thing. She herself recruited somebody to come in and take over her plot and keep it going because she just really appreciated the whole experience. So it's been very popular.

[50:21] our first year we had quite a wait list and this year we haven't had a wait list but we filled

[50:28] every spot so that's worked out well. What's also, I want to be sure I mentioned, I don't believe

[50:38] we've really and might maybe you can confirm this. I don't think we've really had any complaints

[50:44] from the desert rose subdivision which directly abuts on the garden. I think initially,

[50:51] there were maybe some concerns, would it be noisy, would it be disruptive, whatever, but

[50:57] I know nobody from the only time anybody from desert rose approached me was we had a leak

[51:03] and they called to let us know because it was running into their backyard and we were so glad

[51:09] they called to let us know, but I don't believe there's going to be any pushback from the neighbors

[51:17] because first off, there's quite a tall wall behind these houses. I mean really to even see

[51:25] into that. You have to get a ladder and look up over the wall. Second, as you can see,

[51:31] there's parking. So it's not going to be cars along the street in front of people's houses,

[51:38] things like that. And that is the same way with the garden now. We haven't had any issues with that.

[51:43] In fact, I will confess, I don't think I've seen more than two cars at a time at the garden.

[51:50] So, you know, there's been plenty of parking for the gardeners, and I encourage everybody

[51:57] to stop by and take a look.

[51:59] It really, I think, is quite a beautiful space.

[52:03] Can you tell me how the size of this new proposal for the new garden compares with what the size

[52:11] what you have now. I'm a plus. Right now, we only have 20 spots. This has 30

[52:19] plus the bigger squares spots there. So this is quite a bit bigger. Also, we certainly

[52:27] don't have any greenhouses out at the current space. So yeah, this is just size, wise,

[52:35] and mark can certainly confirm this. But I'm almost thinking this square footage is twice

[52:40] This

[52:45] one's, I know this one's 0.85 of an acre and I would have to, I'd have to get on maps and see how big the other one is.

[52:54] But like Larry and said, we have 21 spaces and so I would say it's probably like, this is like a third bigger than what the other one has about.

[53:05] Great.

[53:07] So Lauren will you be bringing the gofers to this new garden?

[53:10] You know, I actually had a discussion with my husband today because he was very excited to hear about this

[53:18] and he did look at me and say, what about the go first?

[53:22] And I can only help.

[53:24] They're so prevalent in the current garden and I can only hope there's going to be fewer.

[53:30] I did not see any go for mounds when I went out on, uh, what was it just yesterday?

[53:44] They're everywhere, I mean, they're just, they're a fact of life, they really are so.

[53:52] And there's ways to mitigate them that are kind.

[53:55] Yep, yep.

[53:56] And sorry, how much longer do we have you?

[54:00] We actually did our portion of the closing on our new house today, and our seller is supposed

[54:06] to do his part tomorrow, so probably in about a month.

[54:10] Okay. Well, we can't thank you enough for all of your contributions to our community in general and to this community garden.

[54:20] Specifically, I was hoping that your husband would be so excited when he saw this that he changed his mind.

[54:28] And if you know of anybody that you could recommend for, we'd certainly be grateful.

[54:33] And please don't lose touch with Ivan.

[54:35] Oh, certainly not. Certainly not. This is, this is, this is going to be a huge

[54:40] paying for me. Just not seeing this through. Because I just, I have no doubt

[54:46] about this group, right? That really is going to do amazing things here. And of course

[54:52] the park's department has just been magnificent in this whole garden.

[54:56] We can fly right into the St. George Airport anytime.

[54:59] And I have...

[55:00] I have a very nice concedent that I can make sure we have your contact information, so we can invite you to ribbon cuttings and openings and everything. Certainly. And Mike and I are working in Mark also to try to find somebody to take over. If you all know of anybody, send them my way. I'm happy to do a transition and everything. Best of luck to you. Thank you so much. Council, any other questions?

[55:25] to add question from Mark.

[55:27] What's our, and you might not know

[55:28] those soft up your head, so I apologize.

[55:29] What's our current allocation for the garden?

[55:33] Yeah, so we would probably have to take,

[55:35] like look at our RAP tax funds.

[55:40] And then possibly we could talk to Kate

[55:42] and see if there's any capital savings funds

[55:45] or anything from last year, but like currently,

[55:49] we don't allocate a ton of money to add

[55:51] the current community garden

[55:52] because all the infrastructure was in place.

[55:54] And we were able to fix it all up with just our operating budget last year.

[56:00] We allocate time for the guys to go down and pull weeds and spread wood chips and different things.

[56:08] But for something new like this, we definitely have to figure out the funding for it.

[56:13] And if you think it's something that could be self-sufficient with the income that we're making off of,

[56:18] we're making this being generated off of renting the space,

[56:22] like, well, pay for itself,

[56:23] or is it something that will have to pay for every year?

[56:27] I think we would, I think we would be able to offset

[56:31] the operating and maintenance cost of it,

[56:33] maybe the water costs and stuff,

[56:35] but as far as the initial infrastructure,

[56:38] it would take probably a long time to pay that off.

[56:42] I'd like to suggest that for the long term,

[56:46] because you say we've got five years,

[56:47] and then after that it's rolling, we don't know.

[56:50] consider a community garden of reasonable size that Arrowhead Park.

[56:56] It seems like the logical place for it and it's not centrally located but the population

[57:01] around there is going to be growing a lot over the next few years I think it's a good spot

[57:07] for it.

[57:09] Absolutely.

[57:10] Any other questions?

[57:12] Thank you Mark.

[57:13] So next step is we'll get the agreement with Steve and we'll start looking at numbers.

[57:19] Yeah, so I guess my, my number one question is, is this something the Council wants us to continue to pursue?

[57:27] Being another place that might be a temporary basis.

[57:32] And if so then we'll get the numbers and we'll go over that in maybe a budget amendment season,

[57:40] or because we probably would want to get it up and going by next growing season.

[57:44] But if it's not, then I guess we could do it just through the budget process and get it up and going for the next fall or winter.

[57:54] So.

[57:54] I think it bears exploration continuing moving for council.

[57:58] Do you feel the same?

[57:59] We need a motion.

[58:01] Brian.

[58:02] No, certainly just direction direction.

[58:05] And I guess I should have recorded that.

[58:07] I should have reported that I had a conflict of interest at the beginning.

[58:10] So I can't call it that.

[58:11] Obviously, I'm totally in favor of this concept.

[58:16] I'm just interested in the dollars, I just want to know how much that cost.

[58:19] Yeah, absolutely. It's-

[58:20] We'll send it out.

[58:21] You have to look at that.

[58:23] Thank you, Marks.

[58:27] Okay, moving forward, item 5C, continue discussion regarding the fire station remodel and expansion.

[58:34] So I don't have anything new to update on the building itself, because we're still kind of in this period of waiting for the engineers to do their thing.

[58:44] But I'm pretty sure Sharon's got some updates on the fundraiser.

[58:49] Well, I have a couple of updates over all.

[58:51] So let's talk about the public works meeting.

[58:53] The public safety work group meeting that we had.

[58:56] It was a great meeting.

[58:57] We held it here, and it was Dave Mayerweight and Brock from Santa Clara,

[59:04] and myself filling in for Dylan Mayer Smith, Mike Scott, and Chuck Gillette.

[59:11] So, we determined a date for our joint meeting.

[59:15] It will be October 22nd, so mark your calendars, at 530 at the Ivan's Fire Station.

[59:23] We'll have brief just update presentations from both Chief Dudley and Chief Kazeer.

[59:31] Then we'll have kind of moving to kind of do the annual update, you know, the official annual

[59:36] update, and then we'll move to kind of just an open house where people can look at the

[59:40] photographs and the images and ask questions and get kind of a tour of whatever they want

[59:46] with the firehouse and then the council's will move to the police station for a little

[59:55] thank you meal for all of us so just keep that on your

[1:00:01] On your calendars, please. The fundraiser is going to kick into place on heritage states. Hopefully.

[1:00:11] And thank you, Chuck, for your help and your team's help getting some things lined up.

[1:00:16] So that's where we're going to kind of launch it in terms of selling hats and having envelopes available in the QR codes and anyone that comes by.

[1:00:28] It's likely they may get tackled by me, not really.

[1:00:33] So we're excited about that.

[1:00:35] And then we placed a save the date in the Kanta Connection

[1:00:40] for the event that we're having in Kanta in October

[1:00:44] for that group.

[1:00:46] And we'll be getting more details on that as well.

[1:00:50] But things continued to move forward.

[1:00:52] I mean, I thought it was a very, very productive joint meeting.

[1:00:58] There were no issues on contention, everyone was in agreement.

[1:01:02] We learned a lot about the goals from Chief Kazeer and what his needs are.

[1:01:11] And some things that are coming down the pipe for Chief Sudley as it relates to the county

[1:01:18] task force and detective news.

[1:01:24] And we did get a commitment from Brock that by the November meeting that he'll be ready to

[1:01:29] talk about animal services.

[1:01:32] He is kind of drinking from the fire hose right now

[1:01:34] because he's the finance director and city manager.

[1:01:36] If you can imagine doing both those jobs, no, thank you.

[1:01:41] So he admittedly said he has put it on the back burner.

[1:01:45] And it's totally respect that.

[1:01:46] And I had a conversation with Council Member Hinton

[1:01:48] about it as well, just to kind of put a bug in her ear.

[1:01:52] And also, I think you will see there's

[1:01:58] lot of social media around the EMS tax in St. George. So they're going to add that to work

[1:02:04] meeting today. It'll be interesting to see where that particular topic lands for them

[1:02:11] because it has been passed in several other cities.

[1:02:18] So as far as the shelter goes, they did meet

[1:02:21] with Captain Rogers to determine he walked them through everything they would need to do to restore

[1:02:28] that shelter to the status that the state, not us, but the state is requiring for no kill

[1:02:36] shelters at this point in time. And then we set dates for future work meetings and

[1:02:43] Dylan, I'll get those to you since you're the official person.

[1:02:46] Yeah, I think Chuck got him on the calendar.

[1:02:48] We got him on the, I had Brenda put him on the calendar. I think she said invites to the

[1:02:52] the work group.

[1:02:54] Mike, any other comments that you've covered?

[1:02:56] Chuck, anything I missed?

[1:02:57] No, that sounds great.

[1:03:00] Thank you for covering for me, Sharon.

[1:03:01] I enjoyed it, and I behaved, didn't I?

[1:03:07] I behaved.

[1:03:08] I know it's rare, but I can do it.

[1:03:17] Anything else on the fire station?

[1:03:18] we model expansion, and fundraiser, any questions, concerns?

[1:03:22] Okay, moving forward, item 5D, discussion regarding progress

[1:03:26] of updating the land use plan,

[1:03:31] Matt.

[1:03:32] Comments?

[1:03:32] Council Member Hurt.

[1:03:35] Yes, Commissioner Robinson and I, we got our survey out.

[1:03:41] We got our list, things to Council on Barton, 165 registered businesses

[1:03:46] is who we've emailed.

[1:03:48] We got 11 responses.

[1:03:51] Back, Hammett got a response from Studley

[1:03:54] from porch farms, yet.

[1:03:56] Don't know why.

[1:03:57] That's taken too long, but we're excited to get all the responses.

[1:04:01] Obviously, we want a big sample to base our decisions off of.

[1:04:05] So hopefully, we'll continue to generate more.

[1:04:08] So we kind of divided into three groups.

[1:04:10] We're contacting the business owners directly

[1:04:12] with one survey.

[1:04:13] We had one for commercial property owners

[1:04:15] that doesn't have any commercial property developed yet.

[1:04:19] And then we have a survey for commercial development

[1:04:22] that already has property on it.

[1:04:25] So we've divided in the three groups.

[1:04:27] So far we're just meeting with and interacting

[1:04:29] with the business owners themselves,

[1:04:31] where a next step is to try and identify

[1:04:34] contact information for the land owners

[1:04:36] for the commercial property.

[1:04:37] So that's kind of the next steps.

[1:04:41] In terms of my part that I own is to get images and pictures.

[1:04:46] So I was at the Housing Conference in midway this week and connected with a lot of different parts of the state and different cities, different companies, different builders, different developers.

[1:05:00] First, to get some, hopefully, really good images being emailed to me so that we can look through them and see what fit

[1:05:08] sivins, what does it fit Ivan's, and have those ready for our future meeting and community meetings.

[1:05:16] Anything from you, Mayor?

[1:05:18] All I'd say is that that business survey is great, even though it's the beginning, and we only have a few responses at this point, those responses are still hugely informative.

[1:05:28] And there'll be more so this is this was a great thing to do. Thank you. Yeah, at the request of commissioner

[1:05:36] Flan on those Perry. I don't know who's last name Brown. I'm going to give it to you in a word doc next time. Just so it's easier to read and and

[1:05:46] Kind of process it

[1:05:49] Good information already. Yeah, it's been great. Yeah

[1:05:53] Anything else on the land use map

[1:05:57] Okay, I just want to thank you to Councilmember Scott for putting together that memo and giving us some guidance on some good resources to review and reflect on as we go forward with the land use planning.

[1:06:12] Okay.

[1:06:13] I forward to those to Matt Lewis well.

[1:06:16] Oh, I said it's a little light reading.

[1:06:19] Yeah.

[1:06:20] Just to keep him fresh in terms of our focus and

[1:06:25] Sharon question about Matt actually got a question from a resident actually couple how did we go about

[1:06:34] Getting his help like what's right. Can you kind of share that story sure background?

[1:06:38] So Rob Dally Chuck. We've all known Matt Lou for a very long time. He's a very well known in the community very well known. Very educated in the land use space

[1:06:49] And so we also got names from the planning commission in

[1:06:55] Santa Clara for some other individuals to contact, to help us, again, not tell us what to do,

[1:07:03] but be a facilitator or a guide, help facilitate community meetings and things like that.

[1:07:09] So, while Chuck was on holiday, I reached out to the ones that, to all of them, to get information,

[1:07:18] and their fees, excuse me, and their fees, what they charge,

[1:07:22] et cetera, so we got that information.

[1:07:25] And we had a mat offered to do kind of a brainstorming meeting

[1:07:32] before our initial work meeting at No Charge,

[1:07:35] just to help just kind of brainstorm.

[1:07:38] And we felt very kind, and then during that meeting,

[1:07:42] he offered to serve helping us at No Charge going forward.

[1:07:46] as long as we don't abuse him, and so based on that and the budget and some of the numbers that we were offered by some of the other consultants, if you will, it was a very high amount to the tune of $40,000-$50,000 for consulting fees, which I respect, having been in that role before.

[1:08:08] But we also felt like we wanted someone that knows Ivan's, right, as opposed to someone from

[1:08:17] up north and Matt living here and having lived here, having built here, developed here,

[1:08:23] et cetera, we felt like that was a good fit.

[1:08:26] And it's on an as needed basis.

[1:08:28] If we need him, we call him, and if we don't, we don't.

[1:08:32] So, he's completely free for a group to come to our meeting.

[1:08:38] Right.

[1:08:39] Yeah, it's awesome.

[1:08:40] I mean, if we asked him to do something outside of the meeting,

[1:08:42] he might be too charged.

[1:08:44] Depending on the scope.

[1:08:45] And if we need to get there, we'll go to the scope of work,

[1:08:48] but we know his hourly rate is very reasonable.

[1:08:52] And very reasonable.

[1:08:54] So, if the scope becomes more that we need from him,

[1:08:59] we've got that available to us as well.

[1:09:01] And I know Matt knows everyone, like he literally knows everyone, is there concern, just, I mean, just being transparent, is there concern that he has overlapped with SITLA or, you know, that came up, it's a great question that came up, the fact that he's not directing us what to do, we're directing us what to do, and he is only helping facilitate, we felt that that was not a conflict, and he's not going to direct us what to do on SITLA, he's helping us with Ivan's.

[1:09:29] Yeah. Thank you. Good question. Yeah. Anything on yes? No. That's perfect. Good. Yeah. Good question. Thank you.

[1:09:41] Okay. So we're going to move to item six the consent agenda.

[1:09:47] Approval of City Council and Planning Commission joint work minute work meeting minutes for August 20th and approval of City Council meetings for August 20th.

[1:09:55] There I move that we approve the concept agenda.

[1:09:59] Second.

[1:10:00] All in favour? Aye. Aye. Consent agenda is passed. Okay, report. Start with council member Pennington.

[1:10:11] I think do report. Thank you. Council member hurt?

[1:10:14] I am just regarding heritage days. So I got some exciting news. I can add to Chief Stubley's number. My wife and I are expecting. So that's why I didn't make the meeting.

[1:10:27] But because of that, I have a conflict with Heritage Day.

[1:10:30] So I'll be able to be at the dinner, but I won't be able to make the parade.

[1:10:34] I got an appointment and we have a soccer game.

[1:10:36] So I got a total of congratulations.

[1:10:40] And then it's helping our standard of not being in the same place.

[1:10:43] That man and girlfriend.

[1:10:43] Exactly.

[1:10:44] I'm not.

[1:10:45] When you have been out twice, it's much candy.

[1:10:49] No.

[1:10:49] So what concerns me is that tonight, the two of you are here, but Kevin's not.

[1:10:55] So, all three of you have never been in the same room.

[1:11:02] Congratulations, that's fantastic.

[1:11:05] Thank you.

[1:11:05] Council member Barton.

[1:11:07] It's one of remind everybody that Heritage Days is next week.

[1:11:11] And Friday is our hot dog really nice.

[1:11:14] And I need everyone there by 415-430.

[1:11:18] And then for the parade, it would be great if everyone could be there by 830.

[1:11:24] Parking is probably going to be a little bit of an issue so plan for that and again our

[1:11:29] medium point is 100 north and 100 west.

[1:11:33] I also just wanted to thank residents of our Dale and Fran Crum.

[1:11:41] They are Ivan's residents and active members of the Color Country Corvette Club and instead

[1:11:49] of doing talk about, I do walk about, quite a bit, with my dog and run it all my neighbors

[1:11:55] and it's so wonderful.

[1:11:57] Most of them are wanting to hear discuss issues and hear some, be part of the solution

[1:12:05] and Dale and Fran, we're so appreciative of all the work that they and support they've gotten

[1:12:13] from our wonderful police department that they've put together this whole dinner for them

[1:12:17] last Friday. It was pulled pork and three different types of hogees and fruit salad and potato salad

[1:12:24] and the huge tray of homemade goodies. And then Dale was asking about heritage days. I said

[1:12:33] you've got to come to the car show and he's signed up for four people to bring their corvettes to the.

[1:12:40] So it's just one of those things. This is why we love being Ivan's. So thank you Dale and

[1:12:48] All right, well, I can't wait to serve hot dogs and we got our shirts. We have our shirts.

[1:12:53] We want to wear those in the parade. Okay. Don't have to wear them. Don't wear them.

[1:12:57] I'm fighting. Don't wear them. Don't wear them. You don't want mustard on them.

[1:13:01] No, for the parade. Trust me, as a mustard and queen, you cannot get mustard out.

[1:13:08] So, how's the member Scott? No reports. So, I have a lengthy report, but I'm going to spare you

[1:13:14] Because I know we're excited about having a short meeting for a change, I just want to give you a couple of updates.

[1:13:21] I did go to the housing conference this week, and I was really glad I went.

[1:13:25] It was in midway, which is a darling place if you ever get a chance to go up there.

[1:13:29] It's just adorable and they're having their Swiss days this weekend, so it was a go-in concern.

[1:13:35] There were two speakers that moved me so incredibly.

[1:13:41] One was Steve Turner, and his non-for-profit is called Bring Back the Trades.

[1:13:50] Not only is his personal story inspirational, and I can send you his TED Talk link, but

[1:13:56] what he's created is amazing.

[1:13:59] He's talking about, for every five trades people that leave retire only two are coming in.

[1:14:05] It's going to impact everything that happens in our future, especially construction.

[1:14:11] And he goes out and talks to high schools about college and traits, because we need both.

[1:14:20] And it was so interesting.

[1:14:23] His background, he has severe learning disabilities, and so school wasn't for him.

[1:14:28] And how he got involved in this was fascinating.

[1:14:30] So I'll send you the link to his TED Talk, and it was interesting, because I was listening to the news the next morning

[1:14:36] I was getting dressed for the conference and the CEO of Lowe's, the Home Good Store, was on

[1:14:43] the news talking about the same thing.

[1:14:45] So there's a heavy emphasis right now on backing the trade.

[1:14:52] So that was fascinating.

[1:14:53] The other gentleman that I heard speak equally fascinating was a gentleman by the name of Dante Scott.

[1:14:59] he wrote

[1:15:00] Once the housing assistance corp in Las Vegas, again an incredible personal story he was incarcerated

[1:15:06] at the age of 15 for 10 years. And he used that time as his college education. He watched

[1:15:15] the home network, home goods network where he flip houses and build houses, he took notes, he researched

[1:15:22] everything and that's what he started when he got out of prison and he has started a program called

[1:15:32] beautify the block in one of the worst parts of Las Vegas so I can send you a link on that too so

[1:15:38] that was fascinating. Overall the conference there was some good information, a lot of different

[1:15:44] perspectives, strong presence of nonprofits, developers, builders and a lot of city representatives as

[1:15:52] Well, just a couple of key presentations that I attended, Steve Walder, had a very key presentation

[1:16:00] that Housing Strategy 2026, he had Representative Warg, Representative Roberts, Representative

[1:16:05] Co-Ford, and Representative Eschamellia there, talking about what's working and what's

[1:16:12] not working and I did was able to have a conversation with about what's happening on the

[1:16:20] concerning and there's some things that we could learn from it and things that will help

[1:16:27] us going forward as well. So I'll talk with you about that later. A couple of things

[1:16:32] that are legislative wise that we can see coming forward and this backs up with I've had

[1:16:39] two Utah League of Cities and towns meetings in the last two weeks as well. Representative

[1:16:45] the word believes that the way we permit is leading to higher cost.

[1:16:50] And no surprise there, they're still believing the cities.

[1:16:53] But he would like his goal of legislation as he wants to see small

[1:16:58] plots placed in any residential land use as permitted or

[1:17:02] conditional use.

[1:17:03] So we have that to look forward to in the upcoming legislative

[1:17:10] session.

[1:17:10] And Steve Waldott spoke to the complexity of ordinances over time once they were five pages now their 56 pages as an example and of course I raised my hand and said,

[1:17:23] how many of those were federal or state driven? It's not all city driven. Let's change our focus a little bit.

[1:17:32] They talked about the first time buyer fund that was started two years ago that was to help people with the down payment.

[1:17:38] It helped people get into a house, but it didn't help anything to reduce the cost of housing.

[1:17:45] So I'm not sure where they'll look at.

[1:17:46] There was a great program on the 21st century road to housing act, the federal act.

[1:17:51] As you know, one of the keys was to ban institutional investors from buying single-family homes,

[1:17:58] not sure exactly how they're going to control that.

[1:18:01] But OK, the challenge now is that it does no longer apply

[1:18:07] to build to rent properties or short-term rentals.

[1:18:12] And that's what we were hoping to control,

[1:18:14] that now they've taken that away.

[1:18:16] So that's very concerning for our community.

[1:18:19] And I want us to be mindful of that going forward.

[1:18:22] They talk a lot about ADUs.

[1:18:25] There was a lot of talk and workout session

[1:18:27] when work sessions about it, because there's

[1:18:29] cost prohibitive to build and if you can't pay cash for it, then you have to redo your mortgage

[1:18:37] and you may lose your lower rate. So they're looking at the, they're looking at the focus

[1:18:43] being turned more to internal ADUs because the average cost of that is 30,000 versus 6,200,000

[1:18:51] on an external ADU.

[1:18:52] If you have cash, that's great.

[1:18:54] HOAs were a hot topic.

[1:18:58] The HOA fees have gotten out of control in our country today.

[1:19:04] One gentleman has a complex where the fee is $1,000 a month,

[1:19:10] which is just crazy to me.

[1:19:12] But it's coming a real concern.

[1:19:14] And it's impacting affordability.

[1:19:17] And the more amenities you have, the more it has.

[1:19:19] And I got to meet with the new on Budsman, Erin Reiter, and learn a lot about her role in

[1:19:26] the on Budsman.

[1:19:27] I learned a lot about deed restrictions and community land trust.

[1:19:32] Moab is an example of it's doing really, really well in a community land trust.

[1:19:38] Again, working with a lot of nonprofits and conjunction with the city, but they are like

[1:19:44] the poster child for doing this.

[1:19:47] And I've gotten a meeting set up next week with Caitlyn, I forget her last name, the person

[1:19:52] that heads that up.

[1:19:55] Impact fees are going to be a huge focus in the legislative session.

[1:20:00] According to a webinar that I was on yesterday with the Utah League, CAM says it's going to get spicy.

[1:20:08] So I sent out to Mike Scott and to both Brian and Chuck a draft resolution on impact fees.

[1:20:18] I got it right today. I got it totally wrong yesterday, but I got it right today, so that we can take a look at that.

[1:20:23] I'll send it out, and then Ivan's IQ, so that's it for the house. I mean, literally I could talk about this conference for another hour, but I won't.

[1:20:36] Just some really good sessions and some really good information and lots of notes, lots of good connections that I made. I was so glad I went.

[1:20:43] I think as I cue, we're gearing up so far we have 10-in-rolled, we launched it in the

[1:20:49] Cayanton newsletter in the Ivan's newsletter and we're going to do one more big push

[1:20:53] next week.

[1:20:56] And other than that I was offered a fantastic opportunity by the league to be a nomination

[1:21:03] to the Utah Communications Authority Board and I had no idea what the heck it was.

[1:21:09] But she suddenly has informed me that it's a good opportunity for Ivan's to have a voice.

[1:21:16] So I have a phone call set up with Justin Lee when I get back from my travels this weekend, and I'll keep you posted on that.

[1:21:27] That's all my report.

[1:21:30] So you managed to check to that.

[1:21:32] Yeah, a couple of things I'd like to report on first off, Sharon did not mention that she

[1:21:37] came in and did a training for our leadership team and staff last week ago on Wednesday.

[1:21:46] And I'll just say that she did a tremendous job.

[1:21:49] She made us all put on blindfolds and we had some fun doing some leadership exercises.

[1:21:59] Yeah. Anyway, she brings a vast knowledge and wealth of information and we really appreciate

[1:22:08] her doing that. Next, I would me and Kevin Smith, we're invited with a couple of days ago. Kevin

[1:22:18] wasn't here this week, so I had Austin from Public Works, joined me and we went over to the

[1:22:26] on this workshop seminar. I don't know what you really call it where they invited. Every city

[1:22:34] to come and they laid out a map of the city and they asked, they asked us to draw where

[1:22:40] our centers are. And you guys have probably heard about the idea of centers. The cities

[1:22:45] have centers. And it was interesting because they had these little stickers where you could

[1:22:52] You can basically draw on your map and put a little sticker and say, here's our centers.

[1:22:59] And so it was an interesting exercise.

[1:23:01] And I don't know, we were asking them why they were doing this.

[1:23:06] And part of it was they're trying to generate a overall database of the entire state

[1:23:12] where all the city centers are.

[1:23:17] And potentially, you know, the state's always putting different economic advantages for different projects that are in these centers.

[1:23:29] I don't know if it'll apply necessarily to us because a lot of them are centered around transit labs.

[1:23:36] We really don't have a real big transit hub, but still we do have centers, you know.

[1:23:41] And so just as we went through this process, it was pretty clear that Black Desert is a center.

[1:23:50] And it may not be like in the center of our city, but it's a center.

[1:23:55] It's going to draw people in.

[1:23:57] And honestly, there's smaller centers too.

[1:24:01] Even Canyon Crossing, especially when the commercial district comes in across the street from them,

[1:24:05] That will someday develop that's going to be probably its own little center or maybe it's kind of combined into one center

[1:24:11] And then of course, there's the property next to RV you where we've got some adjacent empty land where we

[1:24:19] We've always intended to that being really kind of the city center for Ivan City, and so we circle back

[1:24:26] But then

[1:24:28] You know even family dollar and red mountain mark and creates and then let me sure with you kind of the levels of city centers

[1:24:35] that they were having a smart.

[1:24:37] They said, let's mark Metro City Centers.

[1:24:40] Well, we didn't have, we didn't have any

[1:24:41] Metro City Centers.

[1:24:43] Then they had this center.

[1:24:44] They called a multi-use, a multi, sorry, a mixed-use corridor.

[1:24:51] And we're like, well, we don't really have a mixed-use corridor.

[1:24:55] But then the next level was city center.

[1:25:00] And then the next little below that was even like a small town center. And so we put, we put family dollar in the Red Mountain market as a neighborhood center, because it's, it probably even bigger than that, because a lot of, it's a really convenient to have those two stores in our city, but then even the K&R village is, we decided to call that a small town center.

[1:25:27] Maybe it's a neighborhood center, I don't know if the nomenclature really matters, but

[1:25:32] anyway, it was an interesting, it was an, you know, one more thing, we did actually circle

[1:25:36] the civic block here where this is kind of maybe it's not a commercial center, but it's

[1:25:42] a civic center for our city.

[1:25:45] And so, you know, we identify, you know, when I was coming to think, oh, yeah, we're not

[1:25:49] going to have any centers, well really we have six centers, and none of them are metro centers

[1:25:53] or, you know, really dense populated areas, but we do have centers.

[1:26:00] So who sponsored this?

[1:26:03] I know that, I'm not sure if they were from Utah, they talked about Utah, they were from

[1:26:08] the state, though.

[1:26:09] Okay.

[1:26:09] Oh wait, I don't remember now.

[1:26:10] It was the governor's office.

[1:26:12] Okay.

[1:26:13] They were planning in budget office, yeah.

[1:26:17] So anyway, it was an interesting exercise.

[1:26:24] I think I had told you several weeks ago that we were looking at updating the sign ordinance.

[1:26:34] And Caitlin's back by the way, Caitlin's back from the turn of the lead.

[1:26:38] We had a meeting on Monday now that she was back and kind of sat down and kind of talked about enforcement of the sign ordinance and some of the challenges that we're seeing.

[1:26:47] And we actually came to the conclusion that maybe we don't need, there was one thing that

[1:26:54] we thought we might need to update the sign ordinance on, which is if we end up being able

[1:26:59] to do a mural on our fire station, we do think we need to carve out an exception for the

[1:27:07] mural.

[1:27:08] But otherwise, we kind of walked away from that thinking our sign ordinance is okay.

[1:27:18] It's pretty clear.

[1:27:19] There's some freedom of speech issues that Brian was concerned about.

[1:27:25] But we can just be careful about how we enforce it so that it doesn't cause us to get into a freedom of speech lawsuit.

[1:27:32] But other than changing the ordinance to allow for that mural, I'm not sure that we're going to come in with some big sweeping changes to the sign ordinance.

[1:27:43] So I wanted to update you on that. Also last week, I can't remember, I don't think I saw any of you come to the Conservancy District meeting, the AAC meeting.

[1:27:55] There was nothing really big discussed there but we did meet and discuss some water issues and it was good to see everybody there.

[1:28:09] And then Sharon hinted at this that we're kind of pushing to get our social media presence bigger and broader.

[1:28:17] We had a meeting actually this morning and we're going to try to get we now have a city and Ivan city.

[1:28:24] Facebook page and Ivan City Instagram page and Ivan City next door neighbor and so we're

[1:28:31] have a goal to get at least two posts out per week and there'll be some weeks where we'll

[1:28:37] be more than that. And just FYI on the Facebook page most of those were going to set up so

[1:28:43] that we don't allow comments because it's not really common needed. It's just like here's what's going

[1:28:47] on. Here's an event. Here's that. I think we should just be consistent like pick what we're

[1:28:54] We're not going to do comments, the reason why is because I think if we had the staff where

[1:29:00] we could have somebody monitor the comments and make sure that we're giving proper responses

[1:29:04] to that, I think maybe someday we'll end up wanting to have comments, but we're such tight

[1:29:10] staff, everybody's got their plates full right now, it's going to be no comments, if somebody

[1:29:16] wants to make comments, they'll have to repost it and then people can make comments on

[1:29:20] Right, and I'll still take the posts and share them to the Ivan's community pages.

[1:29:27] There's two Ivan's community pages now.

[1:29:29] So I'll still share those, and then if people want to make comments, that's fine.

[1:29:32] But typically what I found is they don't, because I'm just posting like heritage days,

[1:29:37] or, you know, this event or that event, something pretty benign.

[1:29:43] So anyway.

[1:29:45] Yes.

[1:29:46] Yes.

[1:29:46] Could you comment on what the city was prepared to do when we had that power outage?

[1:29:53] Yeah, so yeah, that's a great idea. I didn't even think about bringing that up. So yeah, we have the power outage unfortunately was on a second

[1:30:00] Saturday, which wasn't super convenient, right? But we had a conversation to Dan's not here. And Chief Studley and Dan and I were keeping in contact during the power outage. We decided like, okay, if this thing goes up longer than two hours, we had talked about before opening up city hall to be a cooling center. So once it hit 730, we're like, okay, so I had to send out the yopify.

[1:30:29] was hoping like I could get a hold of a leash to do it and she was out of town so I was like

[1:30:33] okay I know I have an account I was able to get a yopify message out through text and email

[1:30:39] to notify everybody I did I was appreciative there were some people that had reposted those messages

[1:30:45] on Facebook and next door neighbor and such and so at 730 we opened up the building and

[1:30:53] And there were three people that showed up.

[1:30:59] So I'm glad some people showed up.

[1:31:01] And I don't.

[1:31:04] Did you show up?

[1:31:05] You have some design?

[1:31:06] Talk to us.

[1:31:08] We're going to have.

[1:31:08] Come to the mic, please.

[1:31:09] Yeah, we have a plan.

[1:31:12] All right.

[1:31:13] If you guys for everyone to see us.

[1:31:14] Chief was texting me, and I was posting on Facebook

[1:31:18] and next door in every week.

[1:31:19] They came in in phases.

[1:31:20] So we have help from our city cert members and so what we're going to have them do is to

[1:31:27] staff that as volunteers. And then again, this is still in the discussion phase but we'll use

[1:31:34] this room to capacity and we'll do just a normal two hour window for you to come here, charge your phone

[1:31:40] cool off, hang out. We'll kick you out after two hours unless there's a circumstance or a

[1:31:47] need to obviously surpasses that and then we'll also open up the overflow in the police department to do that as well

[1:31:54] But certain members will come and we'll staff that night. I think you had two members of us

[1:31:58] We had two members of the sir has been wife team showed up the Brooks

[1:32:02] I think to come here and to help facilitate and that was great. Yeah, that was really grateful that they showed up and

[1:32:09] Yeah, and then the power came back on about 830 and so we only really had

[1:32:14] the building open for about an hour and

[1:32:17] And anyway, I think it was a good thing that we did that, that we provided that service.

[1:32:24] And if we have another challenge, we'll do it again.

[1:32:27] Right.

[1:32:27] One of the things we talked about this morning when we were talking about social media, too,

[1:32:30] was Yoppify, and really placing an emphasis on social media for people to understand they need

[1:32:38] to give us their contact information.

[1:32:41] And everybody, just about in city hall, when they touch base with someone, someone calls

[1:32:46] with a question or concern, we try to verify it updated then, but pushing that out to social

[1:32:52] media that if you want these alerts and updates to be coming from Ivens we're happy to

[1:32:58] give them to you, but we need your phone numbers.

[1:33:01] So, really beefing up, y'all will be fine.

[1:33:03] Yeah, it would be really great if everybody updated their phone numbers with Ivens City so

[1:33:08] that that could be a more effective tool.

[1:33:10] And we're going to put something on the website about that as well and we're also going to

[1:33:13] links for the Facebook page and the Instagram page and the next door on the website also.

[1:33:26] Yeah, that's all I had to report today.

[1:33:29] Anything from you, Mr. Brian Pack?

[1:33:31] I don't have anything.

[1:33:36] Any items to be placed on future agendas, other than the request from our resident this evening?

[1:33:44] Would you just like me to read for 30 minutes or so?

[1:33:47] please. All right I move we adjourn. Second motion has been made in second

[1:33:57] it on favor. Hi. Have a good Labor Day weekend to everybody be safe.

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