[0:01] offer a motion that Miss Kim Adams be

[0:04] immediately suspended through December

[0:06] the 5th with pay due to

[0:10] insubordination pending further

[0:12] investigation we also asking that Miss

[0:15] Shannon Wagner meet with Miss Adams on

[0:18] 1119 24 in order to retrieve any

[0:21] personal belongings that she may need

[0:23] during that time frame she's also asked

[0:25] to surrender all keys and IDs in any

[0:27] other property of Jones County dur the

[0:30] period of suspension Miss Adams is asked

[0:33] to appear at the next vaa regular board

[0:37] meeting to be held on 12 524 at

[0:41] 4M it has been properly motioned do I

[0:44] hear a

[0:49] second been properly motion and second

[0:51] on the motion all those in favor of the

[0:54] motion please raise your

[0:57] hand those against by the same sign

[1:01] motion carries read the motion

[1:06] again the next item on the uh agenda is

[1:10] item number seven which is public

[1:13] comments

[1:30] excuse me

[2:26] you remember a mon and give you a phone

[2:31] call thatone I HR

[2:35] issue I had I had HR is

[3:00] I said there

[3:24] Ed let me say this at your request I

[3:28] call this individual I don't know this

[3:30] individual I don't even

[3:34] know I to this

[3:37] individual office

[3:39] evener May her exper could

[3:43] Beed that was the

[4:03] I didn't get I didn't get a complaint

[4:05] but let me just say this I think on

[4:07] several

[4:14] meeting I am receiv

[4:45] a lot of what chair just

[4:48] said it's hard to believe that we can we

[4:52] can sit here and say we didn't know we

[4:53] didn't know we didn't know hey you all

[4:56] have annual training that teaches you

[4:59] know to run

[5:01] this so you can't say you didn't know I

[5:05] find it very ironic that the chairman is

[5:08] going to make a comment to the only

[5:10] person that can give them legal advice

[5:12] to let them run the meeting as the

[5:14] chairman instead of uh making chairman

[5:17] and

[5:18] advice when you didn't reach out for the

[5:20] last 12 weeks that we've been going

[5:22] through this mess hadn't reached out at

[5:25] all you say you didn't know this you

[5:26] didn't know that you didn't ask even you

[5:29] had the chairman of our board contact

[5:32] you you had the emails being sent back

[5:34] and forth from where they were sent to

[5:37] our HR Director but yet nothing's done

[5:40] except we didn't know you knew on

[5:43] September the 3 when those when those

[5:46] staff members came out and said

[5:48] something you should have known there

[5:50] was going to be a hostile work

[5:51] environment from that point on everybody

[5:54] that came up here earlier tonight and

[5:55] talked said there was not a problem they

[5:58] were all friends they for each other get

[6:00] CES for each other everybody was happy

[6:01] everybody was good until they came out

[6:04] and said something you don't think that

[6:07] is part of the reason why there's a

[6:09] hostile work environment because that

[6:11] divided the

[6:12] department that's nobody's

[6:14] responsibilities but Tony and y'alls to

[6:17] know that's a problem and not do

[6:19] anything about it because if you didn't

[6:22] think when they came out that there was

[6:24] going to be a problem and then the the

[6:26] department fall apart like it does

[6:28] because everybody said there was not a

[6:30] problem until then except for years ago

[6:33] when the people that left for the same

[6:36] reason so but I do want to clarify one

[6:40] thing chairman you've called for votes

[6:42] tonight asked for a a hand raising

[6:45] that's a that's a roll call vote but

[6:47] you're not raising your hand are you not

[6:49] voting

[6:53] or okay so when there's only three

[6:55] people on this board you got to have

[6:57] three people to make a quum right

[7:00] that's right in order to make a quorum

[7:01] it's he required to vote the law says

[7:03] that the appreciate you can quote the

[7:06] law now you didn't know what the

[7:07] attorney was going to tell you five

[7:09] minutes ago if you finished you ask me a

[7:11] question okay and I'm answer you a

[7:13] question okay and I'm not going to raise

[7:15] my voice like I got pretty good hear

[7:18] okay and I hope you do too so I ra my

[7:20] voice but according to what I read ier

[7:23] to the attorney tax consist

[7:32] is still three of of a five okay is not

[7:36] three of a

[7:38] m

[7:39] no three member board is the three

[7:42] members here is a Corum but you ask me

[7:45] and I told you minimum number

[7:48] tax I didn't that I asked what a for was

[7:51] what

[7:53] it how many does it take to pass a vote

[7:56] two

[8:02] but let me say this in in in reading the

[8:04] state law it says that when there is a

[8:07] vacancy on the board of tax assess and

[8:10] the Board of Commissioners should

[8:12] immediately work to replace those

[8:14] members I'll P back on I'm just telling

[8:17] you what the language says sir I

[8:19] appr I don't these MERS

[8:23] okay Council I would ask that you

[8:26] research that and see if that is act

[8:33] okay the chairman I am I am completely

[8:36] disappointing this board I will make one

[8:38] other comment since we got 10 last time

[8:40] we got 10 minutes it looks like

[8:43] um there was a comment made about the

[8:45] meeting here I think one of the ladies

[8:47] in the office made a comment about U

[8:49] some of the staff members saying that I

[8:51] wanted to fire them all I think M Morgan

[8:53] said something about it before I went

[8:54] back and listened to that and what I

[8:56] said was we've got a problem we want to

[8:59] know what the problem is and we want it

[9:01] fixed if it's his board that's the

[9:03] problem it needs to be fixed if it's the

[9:06] uh department head is the problem it

[9:08] needs to fixed if it's the staff is the

[9:10] department it needs to be fixed and I

[9:14] stand on that all day long whatever the

[9:16] problem is but I will remember remind

[9:18] y'all the the head of this process sits

[9:22] in these

[9:23] seats and I asked you three times it's

[9:25] the third time what are y'all going to

[9:27] do and your answer is

[9:29] to suspend we just did so yeah you

[9:33] suspended the one person that brought

[9:35] the problem to life that's an

[9:37] embarrassment I will Echo what James

[9:39] Collins said before I would recommend

[9:40] all three of y'all resign your position

[9:42] because you're incompetent and you're an

[9:43] embarrassment to this County period well

[9:46] let me tell you this sir I thank you for

[9:48] your comments I don't agree with

[9:50] them but you can say what you

[9:56] say yes sir anybody else

[10:05] how you

[10:30] they r

[11:06] talked

[11:29] I

[12:12] anybody

[12:13] else let me chairman um unless again I'm

[12:19] skimming very quickly the policies and

[12:22] procedures um specific to this board

[12:26] unless there's something I'm missing in

[12:28] my scheming it would require the

[12:30] majority votee of the a total board so

[12:34] it would require three votes for you to

[12:36] pass anything unless there's something

[12:39] that I'm missing as an quick

[12:43] schem no ma'am the total board is still

[12:45] five you're a

[12:48] five yes but to pass anything and have

[12:51] the Quorum you've got to have three that

[12:53] vote alike right so what we need to do

[13:00] oh I'll let you finish yes

[13:09] sir

[13:11] so I don't remember how many years ago

[13:13] but I know Tony has offended some

[13:17] people um whether it

[13:19] be Brash talk

[13:22] or the nature of his demeanor but that's

[13:26] not reason to take off or fire some

[13:29] somebody um there have been a lot of

[13:32] properties that have been put on the

[13:33] rooll um and some of those same

[13:36] individuals have some

[13:38] concerns um these properties were not on

[13:41] the rules for what five six seven

[13:44] years um you don't get commended for

[13:47] that you get slapped on the wrist

[13:50] evidently um there's been

[13:53] talk about addressing some of the issues

[13:56] and the only thought thought that I had

[14:00] was that you had

[14:02] to incite what was incited on September

[14:07] 3rd for it to happen because you

[14:09] couldn't do it

[14:14] yourself there's been a long issue

[14:19] with maybe how he does business or who

[14:23] it impacts and the reality is

[14:27] that at the end of the day

[14:29] more properties have been put on the tax

[14:31] R since he's been here than any other

[14:35] time and at the end of the day we went

[14:40] through State and then we had an

[14:43] arbitration hearing and at that last

[14:48] hearing they

[14:51] said that he was

[14:54] clear and

[14:57] that the new sales ratio was 33% which

[15:00] was higher than the

[15:03] 31 then the data that's used to see if

[15:08] he's sales chasing was within range so

[15:12] he was not sales chasing the other data

[15:16] and I don't remember all the the the

[15:18] numbers or the names was also in line

[15:21] which said that whatever he was doing

[15:23] was

[15:24] congruent in the sales

[15:26] study so

[15:29] if that is the case and Jones County was

[15:32] Vindicated as was the

[15:36] department then the events of September

[15:39] 3rd were not

[15:43] warranted but it happened in that same

[15:48] meeting said that we'll protect you in

[15:51] the

[15:53] hallway yes ma'am I was standing right

[15:55] there and I

[15:56] heard correct thank you

[15:59] amen amen they counties too right so so

[16:03] it gave the impression that there was

[16:05] some wrongdoing because it wasn't to

[16:07] protect him or them it was the

[16:11] individuals that came up to speak if

[16:13] they had been whistleblowing and the

[16:17] office was out of order the arbitrators

[16:20] would have said so and the county would

[16:22] not have been

[16:23] Vindicated that's the problem I have

[16:26] where did it start

[16:30] to my fellow Commissioners I understand

[16:33] there's a

[16:34] frustration but at the end of the day we

[16:37] don't have to stoke any

[16:41] fires because there was so much

[16:44] commentary about the sky is falling the

[16:47] world is at an end and we're going to

[16:49] have to pay this money back and be in

[16:51] debt this and be charged this parcel

[16:53] none of that came to fruition

[17:03] so I know that the fire was stoked

[17:09] here and when they came they added more

[17:13] to

[17:14] it which is much to do about

[17:18] nothing if it was my decision I'd fire

[17:22] them

[17:23] both because you can't us cert my

[17:26] authority in my department still have a

[17:29] job I know you wouldn't do it

[17:32] say there's no way because it causes a

[17:36] problem in the office and it did because

[17:39] they thought they had whistleblower

[17:43] protection and what happened was an

[17:45] innocent bystander got caught in The

[17:52] Fray I don't know what would make an

[17:54] officer hit

[17:56] somebody it doesn't make sense

[17:59] I don't understand why someone who would

[18:02] file a complaint on a paper that she

[18:05] printed on a Thursday running to the

[18:07] human resource department will wait till

[18:09] Friday

[18:12] morning to take it to the authorities

[18:15] walking past human resources and a

[18:17] sheriff make it make

[18:20] sense as a commissioner of this County

[18:23] and I've been here the

[18:24] longest I'm highly disappointed in US

[18:29] because we had a way to manage

[18:34] this never have I been here and an

[18:38] employee got

[18:40] arrested doesn't make

[18:45] sense I don't get

[18:47] it but tonight you all ruled and you

[18:50] were favorable that was

[18:52] nice wouldn't have been me because I've

[18:55] seen people fired for Less

[18:58] I

[19:01] hope that this department does what's

[19:05] needed to be done to set every mind

[19:07] clear and every record straight and I

[19:10] hope you go to $106

[19:13] $130 a square foot then everybody in

[19:17] this County will have something to

[19:19] say because then it'll really be an

[19:23] issue and I understand his compassion

[19:26] for trying not to hurt the the tax

[19:28] perence and he said that I didn't feel

[19:30] like and the state said that's not your

[19:33] job so he was wrong in that

[19:36] regard let us do our job bring the

[19:40] values up to

[19:41] 106 130 and then let us roll back the

[19:44] millit

[19:46] rate and let the nashing of

[19:49] teeth happen on our

[19:53] watch threers board it's ironic that the

[19:57] only incompetent board is the

[20:00] Blackboard I'm going to say

[20:02] it

[20:04] when and I defend it let me tell you

[20:08] something when when I sat

[20:11] here and y'all

[20:13] allowed that zoning and planning to put

[20:17] containers in my

[20:19] district but you won't allow them to put

[20:22] them in your District that's a problem

[20:24] erene should not sit on two boards

[20:26] that's in the ordinances yall allow it

[20:29] for years y'all know what's right and

[20:31] y'all do what's wrong and y'all allowed

[20:33] it when I said that board was

[20:34] incompetent it need to be replaced

[20:35] nobody thought it because it was okay

[20:37] because it was in my district but it's

[20:39] wrong it's in the ordinance

[20:45] clearly I'm sorry is that 10 minutes

[20:48] dang it my bad

[20:50] sorry I don't think I use my

[20:54] minutes how many morees

[20:58] [Music]

[21:01] thank

[21:02] you reason I call commissioner Martin

[21:04] out for being wrong when he wants to

[21:06] bring race into an issue nobody fired

[21:08] the two white people that were on this

[21:10] board they chose to leave so that has

[21:13] nothing to do with us when he talked

[21:15] about stoking fires up here that came

[21:17] after two employees that Tony asked to

[21:20] come out and talk and tell us what the

[21:22] problem was that he was blaming on the

[21:24] state so that's another um

[21:27] misrepresentation of the truth the

[21:30] second the other parts of the story that

[21:32] really sound great although not very

[21:35] true from what I heard or anybody else

[21:37] in that room the state never said we

[21:40] were Vindicated of anything the state

[21:42] said you went up 2% but we are still far

[21:45] below the 40% that we should be

[21:48] at arrat the arbitrators their only

[21:52] decision was to listen to it they went

[21:54] into a closed session they came out with

[21:56] a decision to raise it up two points

[21:58] they didn't say anybody was Vindicated

[21:59] they didn't say the state was doing the

[22:01] I mean the county was doing the right

[22:02] thing they didn't say Tony was

[22:15] great all I know is we have failed the

[22:20] state requirements for the second year

[22:22] in a row and looking that way for the

[22:25] third year according to what they've

[22:27] told us so when we don't do anything for

[22:30] 2 years we're required to do something

[22:33] we were not we're not we are a lot

[22:35] better than we were from 31.4 to 33.9

[22:38] that's obvious but we're nowhere near

[22:41] where we're supposed to be based on the

[22:42] state guidelines and for us to say that

[22:45] we were Vindicated by that we weren't

[22:48] Vindicated by anything we were told what

[22:51] our problems are and they still are and

[22:53] the only stoken that was was done was

[22:56] after everything started blowing

[22:59] up and I have no problem being told I

[23:02] stoked the fire not when a fire needs to

[23:04] be stoked the one thing I heard from

[23:06] somebody tonight was this department

[23:07] will never be the same I hope not I hope

[23:11] it is never the same because this

[23:12] department is where we got us is got us

[23:14] to where we are now this department this

[23:16] board it starts at the top goes all the

[23:18] way down I agree I wouldn't have fired

[23:21] uh the two of them tonight I would have

[23:22] already fired

[23:25] somebody thank you Mr K

[23:28] did that close

[23:30] out iuse my

[23:33] minut you you just provide information

[23:37] person this is public comments

[23:39] commissioner Martin said that we're

[23:41] totally Vindicated in the last meet when

[23:44] I got up here last the first time I got

[23:47] up here September

[23:49] 3rd I

[23:51] said we our grades were all over the

[23:55] place they are they were I I said we had

[23:59] way too many

[24:01] overrides due to sales

[24:03] chasing they were I said we needed to

[24:06] start doing sales ratio studies instead

[24:09] of just throwing numbers at

[24:11] neighborhoods in the last two meetings

[24:14] Tony has St set stood up here and said

[24:17] he's fixing the sales ratios we're

[24:20] starting to do sales ratios he said

[24:22] we're going to CH we change the

[24:25] grades everything I said he said we're

[24:28] now working on correcting him how y'all

[24:31] can not see the problem is beyond me he

[24:36] stood up there and said that he is

[24:38] fixing the three main problems I

[24:42] outlined are y'all that blind you cannot

[24:45] see it it's on record it's on YouTube

[24:49] look at

[24:51] it let's pause for a second I ask for

[24:56] civility I to be of calm minds and calm

[25:01] thoughts I can tell you at this point

[25:04] the chair is totally disappointed with

[25:05] those

[25:06] people because they have not shared fair

[25:10] or civility in their they've done

[25:14] all for that reason for that

[25:18] reason we serve at the pl and our

[25:21] appointed

[25:22] Meers but we're not a lap dog I'm not

[25:25] one and I'm not going to be one and I'm

[25:28] going to say

[25:30] this hopefully in the future if you

[25:33] can't retain yourself with a certain

[25:35] level of fairness

[25:37] andil then we as a board will turn a

[25:42] blind ey

[25:47] and thank you anyone else

[26:01] yeah I'm Elizabeth Williams I live in gr

[26:12] Georgia I so

[26:16] incredibly

[26:20] disappointed in everything in a lot of

[26:25] things I raised my children I've had

[26:29] children of all colors right now I have

[26:33] seven and I've had every color Under the

[26:36] Sun and I'm going to tell you I've

[26:38] always looked at the

[26:41] facts I don't care what color the facts

[26:43] are that's what I'm looking at I'm a

[26:46] researcher and I'll look at the

[26:48] research and I think that's what needs

[26:50] to be done here look at the facts take

[26:53] out any comment you could possibly have

[26:55] written down somewhere whatever look at

[26:58] the facts look at the numbers look at

[27:00] the numbers on the paper look at what

[27:02] the numbers are going to

[27:03] be make your decisions from that all

[27:06] this hoopla about black white whatever

[27:08] that's

[27:09] crap it's the numbers numbers don't

[27:13] lie they

[27:15] don't I know statistics back and forth

[27:18] left and

[27:20] right numbers don't

[27:24] lie and that's what needs to be looked

[27:26] at all these com all this whatever

[27:29] whatever whatever that's just drama and

[27:31] I always teach my kids you stay out of

[27:33] it you look at the numbers what are the

[27:36] whatever those numbers are make your

[27:38] decisions on

[27:40] that this drama is too

[27:44] much we're a county we don't deserve all

[27:46] this drama we deserve you all to look at

[27:49] the numbers and make the decisions

[27:51] accordingly that's what we deserve as

[27:53] taxpayers we don't care about your drama

[27:56] don't care about their drama nobody's

[27:57] drama we care about the numbers and how

[28:00] that affects

[28:01] us especially when your mom with seven

[28:03] freaking kids you care about the numbers

[28:06] I don't care about none of your drama

[28:07] not one bit of

[28:09] it I do care about treat being treated

[28:12] fairly and equally as we all do that's

[28:15] our right as United States citizens of

[28:17] America is to be treated fairly and

[28:21] equally and we don't want to be told

[28:23] that a blind eye is going to be

[28:25] turned we're expecting you all to take

[28:27] it all into account when it comes to the

[28:30] numbers that man is telling you

[28:33] numbers take in the

[28:35] numbers put aside any feelings you have

[28:38] or whatever whatever I get it but when

[28:40] people that know more than you do take

[28:42] in the numbers listen to them that is

[28:44] the one thing I've learned in life

[28:45] listen to the people that know more than

[28:47] I

[28:48] do listen to them I've listen to y'all

[28:52] I've been listening to y'all for quite

[28:53] some time y'all don't know everything

[28:55] they don't know everything but the

[28:56] numbers don't

[28:59] lie I've never had a math equation

[29:02] that's worked out correctly be a lie

[29:05] never I've never ran statistics and had

[29:08] it be a complete lie when it's ran

[29:10] correctly never and I've been doing it a

[29:12] long time a very long

[29:17] time look at your numbers make your

[29:19] decisions the right way and just my God

[29:22] least in drama out of it and be

[29:23] respectful to us taxpayers because we

[29:25] deserve you to look at the numbers and

[29:27] do what's right

[29:29] right thank

[29:31] you anyone

[29:35] else well that'll close out the public

[29:38] comment portion of our meeting now Mr BR

[29:41] we need to go back and revote on the one

[29:46] two

[29:47] four five items do we need to restate

[29:51] them and just go

[29:55] back you said you didn't vote on

[29:58] anything I didn't vote on anything so I

[30:01] just need to go back

[30:03] and you just corrected us by reading the

[30:06] legal V is not a valid okay and we

[30:11] follow legal counsel and I thank you for

[30:13] that so to correct that there five items

[30:17] that we voted well really we had five it

[30:25] Ved so we need to restate those motions

[30:30] how you how you ad I will I

[30:43] commission

[30:49] coms

[30:53] that's so it's a little bit of a tricky

[30:59] situation um I don't know that it would

[31:01] be completely

[31:03] improper when I tell them they can't

[31:06] vote on something after comments it is

[31:09] usually a new matter that has come up

[31:12] during

[31:13] comments and so if you want to move

[31:15] forward with addressing it tonight then

[31:18] yes you would have to each item have all

[31:22] three of you V okay we'll do that since

[31:25] you brought it to our attention now we

[31:27] know right um yes and we w we don't want

[31:29] to be in Def because none of those V

[31:31] will okay so let me roll through these

[31:35] votes chair calls for a motion on the

[31:38] approval of today's

[31:40] agenda hear a motion on that

[31:43] item second call for the vote all show

[31:47] by ra your hands motion

[31:53] carries the next item approve of the

[31:55] minutes from November 724 regular

[31:58] executive session chff calls for a

[32:07] motion I hear second on that

[32:10] motion call for the vote all those in

[32:12] favor of the motion raise your

[32:15] hand next item approval of the time

[32:18] limit of two minutes for each taxpayer

[32:20] to address the board of tax assess at a

[32:22] meeting this will update the policy and

[32:25] procedures man

[32:28] properly moved do I hear second I been

[32:30] properly moved second all the vote

[32:32] approve this amendment raise your

[32:37] hand the next item is approval of four

[32:40] VA Homestead exemptions chair calls for

[32:43] a

[32:44] motion hear second proper motion to

[32:48] Second it vote all in favor raise your

[32:52] hands uh chair calls for a approval of

[32:55] the executive session to address person

[32:58] issues hear a motion on that

[33:01] item he

[33:03] second call for the vote all Inay that

[33:06] motion please raise your

[33:08] hand and the last itemer

[33:14] to chair calls for a motion ENT back

[33:17] into session a motion on that

[33:20] it

[33:22] second second in favor of the motion

[33:25] please ra hand

[33:34] immedately supended withay decemberthe

[33:38] toin pending investigation we are

[33:51] asking during that time frame she also

[33:53] asked to surrender and ID

[34:09] moot do I hear

[34:10] second all in favor of the motion please

[34:13] raise your

[34:14] hand chair calls for an adjournment of

[34:17] tonight's meeting motion on that

[34:21] item seconder motion second forj this

[34:25] meeting ised

[34:34] spe

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