[0:25] We'd like to welcome everyone to the September 1st, 206, city council meeting. As always, we'll start by discussing and reviewing the agenda item.

[0:34] It's a very healthy agenda, a big work session, a couple very important issues in executive session as well.

[0:42] And in addition to our regular business. So we'll get right to it.

[0:48] No old business.

[0:52] Now, for concerned, we have considerable minutes of the August 12 meeting.

[0:57] We have

[1:01] two minutes for the August 18th meeting, meeting, excuse me, F-3, consider our

[1:06] solution of the fiscal year 26, 27 vehicle replacement purchases through the Interplight

[1:11] Interplight Supply Management System, any questions on F-1, F-3,

[1:16] F-4, consider our

[1:17] solution, prove the bed from Andrew's Building Services for Danitorial at CO2-20.

[1:25] Questions on that one?

[1:26] on the question of theirs. That is something that's sent out for bid, it's not just.

[1:31] I believe so. Yes, great question. Thank you. Yeah. Michael, do you want to talk to

[1:36] us real quick about how you landed on?

[1:40] Yeah, we just see you, man. Yeah, we just, we put it out for

[1:45] a bit. So we had, I gotta look, I think we had 19 Osles come back in and so Andrews came in

[1:54] with the lowest over the next few years.

[1:56] Our next five years, excuse me,

[1:58] and either with a three percent increased per year,

[2:00] it's still ended up being the lowest set of all of the bits.

[2:05] So, and they also are the company that services

[2:08] City Hall, and all of the other facilities within the city.

[2:11] So, I don't want to keep in it in-house.

[2:13] That wasn't my choice.

[2:14] We didn't do that on purpose, but it didn't.

[2:16] We didn't do that on purpose.

[2:19] But we're happy with that number that they came back with.

[2:22] And do they currently service at that point?

[2:24] Now, the previous company was called Ambassador, they came in quite high, and so Andrews was the best looking one.

[2:32] Maybe that's in the common sense scale, right?

[2:35] All right.

[2:36] Good.

[2:37] Question.

[2:38] F5, consider our solution author as a city manager.

[2:41] If execute a linear agreement, lift out of ox, for the purpose of the project.

[2:43] Wolf and that works.

[2:44] Manage detection and respond to cyber security services.

[2:49] Any questions on F5?

[2:51] Does anyone want to put that in plain English?

[3:01] So what's the purpose of this?

[3:04] Besides cybersecurity that's part of our overall data, compliance,

[3:09] infection services that we implement.

[3:12] We're not being attacked.

[3:13] We've got to have a pretty many of that.

[3:15] So I will point out that governments in general are one of the heaviest

[3:18] attack entities out there because of all the information we have.

[3:22] And so having something like this, this is a very reputable company.

[3:26] This is a really good job protecting our data.

[3:28] Have we, is a night tailor to the city?

[3:30] It's not like a product you just turn on.

[3:31] It's tailored to the city that a certain company that buys it.

[3:35] Yeah?

[3:35] Good.

[3:36] Have, is this the week currently we're both up?

[3:40] Yes sir.

[3:40] We've been using lots of, I thought it's gonna be four days ever.

[3:44] He's our part.

[3:45] It's four to two or three years, I believe.

[3:47] And we're happy, obviously.

[3:48] Otherwise it wouldn't be on here.

[3:49] Yes sir.

[3:50] Okay.

[3:50] Okay. Good. You have the questions on consent?

[3:57] No, all business. H1, a public hearing,

[3:59] two certain ordinance for me, SUP, on Barber Lane, Doug Stamps, is the owner. A question

[4:07] is about H1,

[4:12] H2, the public hearing. It's major, major subdivision, final flat.

[4:20] It's like

[4:20] And then you kind of familiar Andrea Drew Linkford and Anna D.

[4:24] I'm sort of the owners.

[4:26] I miss a few owners there, there's quite a few 15, 16 well-signed.

[4:30] Any questions on that, I don't know.

[4:32] This is just how it's keeping, right?

[4:35] Clean up the self-property one.

[4:38] It's a little different.

[4:40] So the Southernmost lot on this plaque has never been plated.

[4:45] This existed in its current state for quite a while.

[4:48] Um, that owner wants to sell a back portion of her lot to several of the lots in Calais States, which is right there in North of Willis, I know I'm a jury today as a community with that area.

[5:00] So, it's a re-plot for those lots. It's the first time for this existing lot to ever open-plat it. There's a variance, because that existing lot actually doesn't need the minimum lot width for SF-36.

[5:12] And so, I think it's 122 feet. Is the width of that lot, the requirement is 140 feet. So, not traditional housekeeping, but hopefully pretty straightforward.

[5:27] I'll tell you another item on this and there, wherever, but those homes wanted to take

[5:33] it down because the elderly lady that lives there that's given property up is not.

[5:39] And so they've gone out on her property and maintained its own and now they've reached

[5:44] an agreement that they would buy and then they Sarah made them go through the what they needed

[5:49] to get it.

[5:50] But it's so it'll look better too.

[5:52] Sure.

[5:53] Sounds good.

[5:54] It's Wayne Wayne.

[5:57] Good discussion.

[5:58] H3.

[5:58] Consider an SUP for Eval Tavern.

[6:04] Any questions on H3?

[6:06] And this is one more.

[6:07] They already have tables there.

[6:10] The game tables there.

[6:11] They didn't realize the name of the SUP.

[6:15] Yeah.

[6:16] Sounds like it.

[6:17] Is it the pull tables or the games?

[6:23] Definitely the pull tables.

[6:24] It's fun.

[6:24] So, the SUP would be required even if they just sent them both tables.

[6:30] It would be required for the gaming devices also.

[6:32] Those are, I think we've put in the Saphne-Mow place, apartments, and looking into those

[6:37] to see if they're even allowed to keep those.

[6:39] But even if they ended up just being the full tables, they would still need the SUP.

[6:49] H4, resolution, and circuit-approving special exception, the UDC, signar regulations for chalk and steel.

[6:56] Any questions on H4?

[7:01] H5, consider an ordinance approving amendments to the CEP Keller, UDC, for automobile electric charging stations.

[7:11] So as an item, I believe the mayor pro-tum and I have discussed and seems like a good subject matter to consider.

[7:19] So thanks, Shannon, for bringing it forward.

[7:22] Thank you.

[7:23] Thank you.

[7:23] Any questions on page five?

[7:27] All right, each six, we're not going to,

[7:30] honestly, it's repetitive from the executive session item.

[7:34] And so we'll just type all that in the executive session.

[7:37] It's related to the metaphor.

[7:42] And we would just have to take any action.

[7:44] We would just take.

[7:45] Yeah.

[7:45] We'd take it.

[7:46] Yeah.

[7:47] So each six is redundant.

[7:48] And so I'm not going to need to go through that.

[7:53] But to your point, Councilman, any action we would take would be out.

[7:57] And I don't know.

[7:58] All right.

[8:02] I've got to read a lot of language about the executive sessions.

[8:06] All right.

[8:07] This point.

[8:07] And I will say for people in the room.

[8:09] I think there's some folks in here talking, you know,

[8:11] to listening on the short-term run all discussion and other related items.

[8:15] We'll get, we have a very healthy and lengthy executive session.

[8:19] and it's sequenced this way for efficiency purposes.

[8:24] I don't know if we're going to get to SCRs before the 7 o'clock,

[8:27] but the good news is that the 7 o'clock meeting,

[8:32] knock on what we're not a journey, 7 o'clock meeting

[8:35] looks to be fairly straightforward.

[8:38] So hopefully, if we don't get to SCRs before 7,

[8:41] we'll be here, 7 o'clock, 5 o'clock, 8.

[8:44] It depends on how many questions Councilman Brennan has.

[8:47] I'm joking.

[8:49] Yeah, no, I'll be under the list of some of you.

[8:51] It depends on any questions we have as a council.

[8:54] All right, so we'll move to a new executive session under section 551.0704.

[8:58] It's a government code, personal matter, to deliver the employment employment, evaluation,

[9:02] assignment duties, discipline, or dismissal of a public officer employee, for the city sector

[9:07] and city managers, performance evaluation, we're also going to be executive session under section

[9:12] 551.0701, the constitution was attorney, it was closed meeting, a government's a body of

[9:16] may not conduct a five-cost station with its turning accept.

[9:18] When government's a body seeks to advise its turning, you've got plenty of contemplation

[9:22] or some in offer or in a matter of which to do the turning, you've got to go into a body.

[9:25] Under the Texas Square Rolls of Professional Conduct, it's a state-of-art taxpayer can

[9:28] foot to the chapter.

[9:30] Those items are to discuss legal action relating to the West-like data center development

[9:34] and probably grow with all a cost of face-to-face two projects.

[9:38] It will also be an executive session under Section 551-072.

[9:41] Sex government code, deliberating, deliberation regarding rural property, it's close to meeting a government

[9:46] of the body and making doctor close to meeting to deliberate the first exchange of these

[9:49] or private rural problems, it's a little duration in another meeting, but if it would have a

[9:52] additional effect on the position of government of the body and negotiation of the third person,

[9:57] that's 1,000, very free and far away.

[10:02] We're

[10:06] going to go ahead and start with an invocation by Reverend Dr. Jason, Wendy. Thank you for being here, sir. Thank you all so very, very much.

[10:15] Councillor Smith. Yeah, Kelly, you're nine of us. Right at the road, appreciate it. Council, thank you all so much.

[10:20] City, thank you so much for being here. My tradition opens with just a simple word of silence, and then we get into prayer, so thank you so much.

[10:28] Holy English God entered this face and into our hearts that we might have ears to hear

[10:32] an eye to see.

[10:44] And so in the visiting of our lives, oh God, we trust that we pray, that you would forever

[10:49] hold before us.

[10:51] The common good said our own agenda is aside, that we might pursue with perseverance, the love

[11:00] of our neighbor that you successfully desire, all of this we pray in the name of love.

[11:05] That surpasses all the understanding.

[11:08] Amen.

[11:10] Thank you.

[11:10] Very, very much.

[11:11] You're welcome.

[11:21] Next up, we're going to have someone here who's no stranger to Keller,

[11:25] or lead us in the pledges of allegiance.

[11:27] The scout here, I think, Abigail will.

[11:30] Would you mind coming forward to lead us in the pledges?

[11:32] Gregory, you're welcome to join.

[11:35] If you'd like.

[11:36] Yeah, if you want to.

[11:38] Any time we see a scout in the audience,

[11:41] we ask you for your leadership.

[11:42] It

[12:04] is a

[12:12] honor to come to the text of flag.

[12:14] I pledge allegiance to the text of one state,

[12:18] honor God, one in the indivisible.

[12:29] So it came to my attention that I'm wholly

[12:32] and qualified to serve in this seat this evening.

[12:36] And so we have Mr. Cohen Cox here,

[12:39] who's actually the mayor of the day.

[12:42] And I believe we have a colleague,

[12:45] Councilman Wattley, can be with us tonight.

[12:47] And so we also have a councilman of the day,

[12:49] which is Mr. Connor Cox, gentlemen,

[12:51] if you would mind coming forward

[12:53] in helping us lead the meeting,

[12:55] sure would appreciate it.

[12:59] Charles, you can say,

[13:05] Mayor, how are you?

[13:17] My check, that one's working.

[13:27] So we are extremely excited to have our mayor

[13:30] in councilman of the day, Mr. Mayor, if you don't mind,

[13:35] would you tell us how you got here?

[13:43] I did this summer, we didn't challenge

[13:45] and my name got drawn from something.

[13:50] The summer reading challenge.

[13:52] So what did you have to do to win the summer reading challenge?

[13:57] Ween.

[14:00] So just once?

[14:02] Um, I don't know.

[14:06] Wasn't it every day pretty much something like that?

[14:10] Something like that.

[14:12] You're going to make an excellent mayor.

[14:14] That's how we operate as well.

[14:17] So, we're super excited to have you here.

[14:20] Why don't you both tell us what school you go to?

[14:24] I go to ISMS.

[14:28] I don't go to Shetty Club Elementary.

[14:32] So, ISMS and Shetty Grove, more grades?

[14:36] I'm in seventh.

[14:38] I'm in thorn.

[14:40] seventh and third.

[14:42] Are you sure?

[14:43] You look older.

[14:47] So, how was your day?

[14:51] It was pretty good.

[14:52] Pretty good. What did you enjoy?

[14:57] All of it.

[15:00] I told Conner that he's going to make and Cohen that Conner's going to make an excellent councilman and Cohen's going to make an excellent mayor because when I asked him to pick between police and fire, they declined.

[15:13] They took the diplomatic approach and well, did you actually go to work today?

[15:19] Didn't you do like one or two calls with the fire department?

[15:23] Yes. What was that like? It was pretty cool.

[15:26] Pretty cool. Yeah, so Chiefs, Gags, what's on us? They literally did one or two calls with our firefighters out there, so

[15:37] All right, we've done school. What's one thing that you would change about color or improve one idea?

[15:45] I would add like a mode and see equipment near the baseball field

[15:50] because we were in a situation where I was needed and

[15:56] It didn't end too well.

[15:59] Yeah, yeah.

[16:01] What would Councilman?

[16:02] I would give everybody a wage because a lot of people asked for one.

[16:11] So Councilman, we're going to work on your request.

[16:16] Next meeting, we actually adopt the budget.

[16:18] And then Mayor actually just so you know, in part based on your feedback,

[16:23] we have put that emergency equipment at the baseball fields.

[16:26] So thank you for sharing this with that and I have one last question for you

[16:31] It's really important that you know this hopefully remember who's the boss of the city

[16:38] It was like the people the people that's right. It's not the mayor is it?

[16:46] All right, well you want to get a picture without you okay? Yeah, all right, and I have this certificate for you mayor

[16:53] So, we have the city color, thank you for serving as mayor today, really appreciate it.

[16:59] And then we'll go down here and take a picture, all right?

[17:21] There we go.

[18:10] So

[18:24] next up we have a recognition for some of our very favorite people in Keller. But before

[18:32] we recognize this year's Keller Citizens Academy graduating class, I want to take a moment

[18:38] recognize someone that's near and dear to the city of Keller and our heart.

[18:43] Kimberly, doya, joined the city of Keller in 2021 and from what I

[18:47] understand actually grew up right here in Keller, very sadly we lost

[18:52] him last week and we were all heartbroken about that. She was participating in the

[18:58] Keller Academy and so we want to take a moment to recognize her, those who

[19:03] work with Kim, remember her very fondly.

[19:06] She's very kind, very sweet, very generous with her time.

[19:11] She called her co-workers her family.

[19:15] As I understand it, and even some of her last moments

[19:17] was literally trying to get back to work

[19:20] because she loved working with the city

[19:22] and I think more significantly the people that worked here.

[19:25] So we do have a certificate of appreciation.

[19:30] And we're going to send, on behalf of Mayor Council and our residents, flowers and, you know,

[19:37] as much support as we can to the family in their difficult time.

[19:41] And really just wanted to take a moment to acknowledge Kim and everything she's done

[19:45] on the city of Keller.

[19:47] So, very somber for us as a team, you know, as part of life is, unfortunately, is losing

[19:53] someone that you care greatly about, but we wish she could be here with us at night, but we're

[19:57] and do everything we can for the family and our residents and...

[20:00] In our employees, you know, Erin's been doing a good job reaching out to folks at town hall, so if anyone needs support or has questions, then please reach out to Marsha or Erin or any of us. Anything you would add?

[20:16] We're good. Okay. That being said, it is an honor. This was something that actually started just three years ago.

[20:30] And we have our graduating class with the color academy with us tonight.

[20:33] The program was established in 2024 with the goal of providing our employees with the unique opportunity to gain a deeper understanding of city government.

[20:42] And the essential functions from various departments, minor seniors, they go, you know, kind of like the color students as a academy, go department department and learn as much as they can.

[20:51] So from a city of color perspective, this is some of our best of the best.

[20:55] These are folks that want to go above and beyond the call of duty to learn everything they can about the city that they love.

[21:01] So, before you to not are employees representing several departments, including administration, community development, finance, human resources, information technology, parks and recreation, aka the fund department, if you ask Jordan and police.

[21:15] So, if you wouldn't mind, please join me in congratulating the Keller Academy class on this remarkable achievement.

[21:20] We appreciate everything you do on behalf of the City of Keller and as I understand it, Kelly is going to read your names.

[21:27] You'll come up.

[21:28] We'll have a competition so you get to allow us to pause.

[21:30] I mean, we'll hold a pause till the end and recognize you for your efforts and then we'll take a big group photo.

[21:38] So Kelly.

[21:39] Jasmine Byerley.

[21:42] Kim Doet.

[21:43] Ethan Flanders.

[21:45] Kimberly Guana.

[21:47] Amanda Haas.

[21:49] Jaylin Rivera.

[21:50] Chad Rogers.

[22:01] I'm so relieved to Amanda's here.

[22:03] I thought I was in trouble as a volleyball coach.

[22:05] So he's like, the, we still, that's all right.

[23:49] All right, the move on to persons to be heard. This is the time for the public to address the city council on any subject.

[23:54] However, the sector's open meetings act prohibits the City Council from discussing issues

[24:00] which the public has not been given three business days notice issues raised maybe

[24:03] refer to the staff for research and possible future action.

[24:06] Each speaker will be allowed three minutes to speak.

[24:09] First up is Mr. Stewart-Roney.

[24:26] Hi, I address the Council last month on flocked camera issues and there have been some interesting

[24:30] developments.

[24:32] Governor Abbott who has previously supported flocked camera deployment with over $30 million

[24:37] in state grants has reversed course when advised that the Texas Tribune was preparing a story

[24:44] on that. As of Thursday, August 27, Governor Abbott has ordered a pause on any state funding

[24:51] for flocked cameras. Governor Abbott's previous help had resulted in over 3,200 flocked cameras

[24:58] and stiles since 2021.

[25:00] The spending comes from the theft of money from the $1 per vehicle registration fee, passed into law in 2023. Something

[25:09] state lawmakers have complained about as never being suggested or authorized. Six police departments

[25:16] and sheriff's offices across Texas have announced offices being placed on leave, investigated or

[25:22] criminally charged in August alone. Yesterday, the state of Florida revoked the ability to

[25:29] Placer maintain ALPR cameras from any company on any state highway in the state of Florida.

[25:38] Any ALPR on a state highway in Florida has to be removed within one month.

[25:45] The problem with this is it doesn't address private properties and they use to flood cameras.

[25:50] Private entities that have canceled their flood contracts are being told they cannot

[25:55] remove the cameras, which begs the question, why? If, as Flock says, the data belongs

[26:04] to the businesses and the people that contract with Flock and the businesses are no longer

[26:11] contracting with Flock. Why leave the cameras up? Unless they're collecting data and

[26:19] and relaying it to Flock Stealth.

[26:22] Some businesses are actually being boycotted

[26:25] if they have Flock cameras in or next to their parking lots,

[26:28] which puts them in a very difficult circumstance

[26:31] when Flock refuses them the right to take down those cameras.

[26:36] Does the city of Calo,

[26:38] enjoy the idea of business have been driven away,

[26:42] or people refusing to shop at businesses

[26:44] in the city of Calo with ALPR cameras in the parking lot?

[26:48] businesses like Lowe's and some of the other ones. Imagine, instead, if a city of

[26:55] KELA move to remove flood cameras and encourage businesses to remove them, how they could

[27:00] tell people that you can come to KELA and not be tracked. Approximately 250 governments have

[27:07] cancelled the flood contracts in the past year, and KELA can lead the way. Especially since

[27:13] Northwich and Hills purchased over 200 flood cameras in the last year, and distributed them

[27:18] other cities in the area because they got funding from the state of Texas.

[27:23] This is being investigated as the paperwork justify the sole source contract is not in compliance

[27:30] with state law.

[27:33] I think you serve in this for what it's worth on that issue.

[27:38] I will be meeting with Chief Fortune soon to have a discussion for possible future action.

[27:46] All right.

[27:47] Next up we have Tom Fulbright.

[27:58] I guess you guys saw me a couple of weeks ago.

[28:02] I was focusing on sound and the worry about sound,

[28:06] low frequency sound coming from the Circle T data center to our

[28:10] killer neighbor's down there.

[28:12] Today I'm going to talk a little bit about the grid power.

[28:17] And again, done some research on this.

[28:20] I'm not going to read this information to you,

[28:22] but I did provide you guys with three pages of information

[28:25] on what I turned up regarding the Texas grid.

[28:30] But I can kind of do a quick overview.

[28:35] There were like 186 gigawatts of power planned for Texas

[28:41] in the coming months in June of 25.

[28:44] That ramped up to 271 gigawatts in April of 26.

[28:51] two hundred and seventy gigawatts just so you know I've got a little

[28:55] ircott app on my phone here and it says what Texas is pulling. Today

[28:59] Texas was pulling about eighty five gigawatts to run the state of Texas.

[29:05] One eighty five. So multiply that times three to support its industrial growth

[29:14] but mostly data centers.

[29:18] So this is just huge.

[29:21] So transmission lines is kind of the second paragraph.

[29:26] We're scrambling to try to get transmission lines in.

[29:29] The third paragraph, which is even more dire,

[29:32] is power.

[29:33] Where is the power plants that feed these transmission lines?

[29:36] Where is that going to come from?

[29:40] And then the other point I want to make is they're trying to rewrite the rules down in Austin because people could reserve power kind of without a real heavy commitment.

[29:55] You know, we're going to need this many megawatts, this many megawatts, so the rules.

[30:00] Providing power are getting juggled right now. Bottom line, nobody knows really what's going to happen.

[30:08] How fast these data centers are going to be able to come online, how quick we can get power lines in,

[30:14] how fast we can build power plants. So that takes me to my last page, I've still got 47 seconds.

[30:23] And I start with double-check me, find a qualified engineer that can verify this.

[30:31] But if all the backup generators on Circle T are running to support that power plant,

[30:38] it's the equivalent of 27,000 cars idling out there in the field.

[30:45] 27,000 cars idling.

[30:48] So that's a lot of exhaust gas for folks around Keller and Westlight to be breathing.

[30:56] So in the plan, they say they're going to run these backup generators for 10 minutes each month.

[31:03] Just to make sure they work.

[31:06] But what if we have a problem with the Texas grid, the Texas transmission system, we don't have power.

[31:14] So, if we sue these guys, we need to have it in the rules.

[31:18] You can't run these things a hundred percent day and a day out.

[31:22] We've got to have limitations on how long they can have those things on because of its 27,000

[31:29] cars.

[31:29] That's a lot of gas.

[31:30] Thank you.

[31:31] Well, Spencer.

[31:32] Thank you.

[31:33] Is there anyone else from the public that I'd like to speak this evening?

[31:40] Seeing none, moved consent.

[31:42] I am F1, consider approval of the minutes of the Wednesday August 12, 26 special city

[31:46] Council meeting, F2, consider approval, the minutes of the Tuesday, August 18th, 26th,

[31:50] regular to the Council meeting. F3, consider our resolution proven the fiscal year, 2627,

[31:55] vehicle replacement purchases through enterprise, enterprise, fleet management, and authorizing

[31:59] the city manager to execute all related person documents on behalf of the city of

[32:03] Keller. Texas, F4, consider our resolution to prove in the bid from Andrew's building

[32:07] service incorporated of Dallas, Texas, Virginia soil services for the Keller point,

[32:12] recreation and aquatic center, and authorizes the city manager to execute all

[32:15] just documents really and there are two on behalf of the City of Calder.

[32:18] I have five, consider our solution authorizing the City Manager to execute a one-year agreement

[32:22] with Adivox of Houston, Texas for the purchase of Arctic Wolf Network's managed detection

[32:26] and response cyber security services.

[32:30] All right.

[32:31] Any discussion or questions on items up 1 through F5?

[32:35] Seeing none, organizing motion, mayor-protein.

[32:38] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[32:39] I move.

[32:39] We approve consent items.

[32:40] F1 through F5 is presented.

[32:42] Thank you, sir.

[32:43] Councilwoman Brennan.

[32:44] on my second motion.

[32:45] If a motion in a second, let's vote on consent.

[32:51] That's approved, 60, 0.

[32:55] H1 is a public hearing, consider an ordinance approving

[32:58] a specific use permit for an approximately 1,803 square foot

[33:03] accessory structure in approximately 11.24 acres located on the

[33:06] north side of Barbara Lane approximately 1,350 feet

[33:09] west from the intersection of Barbara Lane or Rousseau

[33:11] Drive.

[33:12] Legally described as a lot of 5A home side of the black

[33:14] edition zone single family 36,000 square foot lot size or greater and address

[33:19] 715 Barbara Lane Douglas stamps is the applicant owner is the applicant with a

[33:24] site.

[33:26] Well would you please it's Charlie right? Do me a favor and wish your

[33:31] parents happy anniversary. What number is it? 25 and they didn't want to spend it

[33:37] here but you blocked them you you knocked them out okay all right we'll see you

[33:43] see Tom happy wedding anniversary and you know we'll consider the item but

[33:47] Thanks for being here,

[33:53] man.

[33:53] If the aerial and zoning maps here, subject property is owned SF-36, the applicant requests

[34:00] a specific use permit for a 1,883 square foot barn with an approximate average height of

[34:06] 18 feet and two inches.

[34:09] The proposed structure is used for storage and a workspace to support the associated agricultural

[34:14] activities.

[34:15] There are two STP triggers for the structure to exceed 1200 square feet in the SF-36, zoning

[34:21] district and for the height of the structure to exceed an average of 15 feet tall.

[34:28] The site plan from the applicant shows the structure is located behind the main home and

[34:33] well conformed to the setback requirements of the SF-36 zoning district.

[34:37] Let's see it outlined in red there.

[34:41] The applicant is stated that the barn will be a fully framed and finished structure that

[34:45] has been designed to complement the architectural character and quality of the main home.

[34:49] You can see the elevations there,

[34:53] as well as the floor plan.

[34:59] The existing-

[35:00] On the properties intended to be demolished, and the new main home will be approximately 5,980 square feet. The EDC states that the combined area of all accessory buildings on a lot shall be less than 50% of the main structure and less approved by an SUV. This proposed structure would be less than 50% of the square footage of the main home.

[35:21] On July 30, the city milled 23 letters of notification, tall property owners, within 300 feet in such a exciting. Staff has received no public opinion letters in response.

[35:31] the request. Section 8.02 F2A of the UDC states that when considering an SDP request, the Council

[35:39] shall consider the following factors. The use is harmonious and compatible with surrounding

[35:43] existing uses or proposed uses. The activities requested by the applicant are normally

[35:47] associated with the permitted uses in the base district. The nature of the use is reasonable and

[35:51] appropriate in the immediate area. Any negative impact on the surrounding area has been mitigated

[35:56] and the any additional conditions specified ensure that the intent of the district purposes

[36:00] are being upheld.

[36:04] And at the August 11 planning and zoning commission meeting, commissioners unanimously

[36:07] recommended approval of the SUP request as presented.

[36:12] And again, this is a SUP request for access restructure to exceed 1200 square feet,

[36:18] yes, of 36 setting district, as well as for to exceed an average of 15 feet tall

[36:24] with a approximate average height of 18 feet and 2 inches.

[36:29] The City Council is the following options when considering this request, approve as submitted,

[36:33] approve the modifications, table the item, or deny, if you have any questions staff in the

[36:39] applicant are available.

[36:42] Thanks, Calvin.

[36:44] Anyone for the public, this is a public hearing, what anyone from the public like to speak

[36:47] on this item?

[36:51] Anything you want to add?

[36:52] Now, we're good.

[36:54] Okay.

[36:55] We have a motion.

[36:57] Council in the will.

[36:58] Yes.

[36:58] May I move to close the public hearing?

[37:00] Thank you.

[37:01] I'll second.

[37:02] Let's vote.

[37:04] Public hearing is closed.

[37:06] Any questions for staff or the applicant?

[37:09] Not recognize a motion.

[37:12] Council on Armstrong.

[37:15] In the commentary to talk about that the existing home would be demolished.

[37:18] Is this going to be an issue if we allowed this to happen now?

[37:22] What if the bigger house doesn't get built?

[37:27] Isn't there a staff isn't there as U.P. or what is the status to the...

[37:37] I don't think staff has any concerns.

[37:39] It's a good question.

[37:42] All right.

[37:42] Good question.

[37:43] Any other questions or discussion?

[37:47] I'm really going to be the only one that wishes them a happy wedding anniversary.

[37:50] I'm joking.

[37:51] All right.

[37:52] I'll make a motion to approve item H1 as presented.

[37:55] Councilman Will?

[37:57] Yes, Mr. Mayor.

[37:57] I second and also wish them a happy wedding anniversary too.

[38:02] All right, let's vote.

[38:07] Item is approved, 60.

[38:09] Thanks for coming in, and seriously,

[38:10] give them our best wishes.

[38:12] Thanks for being here.

[38:13] H2 is to consider resolution approving

[38:15] a major subdivision final plat with one variance for last three

[38:17] are through seven are block A and not one block B of clay.

[38:22] State subdivision being six point six three acres

[38:23] located on the west side of Wilson and approximately

[38:25] one thousand seven hundred and eight seven feet southeast

[38:27] of the rap road and Wilson intersection

[38:29] and being a replad of lots 3-2-7 block A of the Play of State Subdivision and a final plot of

[38:34] a portion of the John Edmund Survey abstract 457, track 4-1 and 4-8-2s on single family

[38:39] 36,000 square foot and address this 304-308, 3-12, 3-16 and 3-20, collade drive and 15-16

[38:46] will slain.

[38:48] Chris Blavins is the applicant, David Hawthorne, Dubba, Dubba, excuse me, Struck, Vocal Tross,

[38:56] Steven and Betty Sivinsky, Trina and Kenneth Miller, Andrea and Drew Linkford and Anna

[39:00] Devental are the owners.

[39:04] Thank you, Mayor.

[39:04] I have the aerial and Sony maps.

[39:06] The Soviet property is zoned SF-36.

[39:10] The original plot was created in 2003 and included 15 SF-36 zoned lots.

[39:18] The other subject property, 1516, willus Lane has never been plotted, and that is the

[39:22] property outlined in orange show here.

[39:25] So the purpose of this reply is to revise the south property lines for lots three R through seven R of the Cali a state subdivision and create a final plot for that remainder lot.

[39:37] This application does include variance request, because of the lot for that remainder lot.

[39:44] Since the plot was never approved for that lot, that is the reason for the variance.

[39:49] in SF36, the minimum law width is 144 feet.

[39:53] They are showing a minimum law width of 122 feet.

[39:57] Here's a brief look at the zoning and...

[40:00] In the future, land use plan designations for those properties. On July 30th, we mail that 34 letters in

[40:06] order of application for this public hearing, but staff is receiving no formal public feedback and responses

[40:11] request. Section 2.07 of the EDC states that when concerning a final part of appearances,

[40:18] the city council shall consider the following. That there are special circumstances or conditions

[40:22] affecting the land involved. That the granting the variance will not be detrimental to the

[40:26] like that the greater the variance will not have the effect of preventing the orally subdivision

[40:31] of the land in the area, that the granting the variance will not constitute a violation of

[40:35] any other valid ordinance in the city, and that strict compliance with the regulations

[40:39] and or that the purpose of the regulations will be served to a greater extent by the alternative

[40:43] proposal. At the August 11th, planning and zoning commission meeting, the commissioners

[40:48] unanimously recommended approval of the plot with the variance as presented.

[40:53] Council is following options when considering the final plot of

[40:56] fairings is approved as submitted, or with modifications, table, or

[41:00] deny staff in the applicant here if you have any questions.

[41:05] All right.

[41:06] Thank you.

[41:06] This is a public hearing.

[41:08] Is there anyone from the public who would like to speak on this item?

[41:11] Not working on eyes of motion from Councilman Armstrong.

[41:16] Motion to approve item H2.

[41:20] I'm sorry. Motion to close the public hearing.

[41:22] Yeah, I was with you, Councilman.

[41:23] I was close. Yeah, we'll close the public hearing if the Councilman

[41:26] Brennan will second.

[41:28] I second to close the public hearing.

[41:29] We have a motion to second. Let's vote.

[41:37] All right, Councilman Armstrong, your motion.

[41:41] Now, I motion to approve H2 as presented.

[41:44] Thank you, sir.

[41:45] Councilman Rankly.

[41:45] Mr. Mayor, I second.

[41:47] Thank you, sir.

[41:48] We've motion to second. Let's vote on H2.

[41:54] All right.

[41:55] Plats approved. Thanks everyone for going through the process.

[41:57] And being here this evening, I think it's a good outcome.

[41:59] So thanks for working through it.

[42:03] H3 is a public hearing as well.

[42:04] It's considered an ordinance of proving a specific use permit

[42:07] for equal tavern to operate an indoor entertainment facility

[42:10] in an existing lease space on approximately 3.11 acres

[42:13] on the lower side of car parkway located

[42:15] approximately 220 feet north of the car parkway

[42:17] in borderland intersections intersection.

[42:20] Legally described as a lot of seven-hour block

[42:21] via the Sun Glen subdivisions on the retail

[42:23] and address 721 car parkway unit 100.

[42:26] Eval Tavern, the applicant, evergreen, Furn, LTD is the owner.

[42:32] Thank you, Mayor.

[42:34] Have the aerial and zoning maps.

[42:35] Subject properties zone retail.

[42:39] Quick reminder on the UDC definition for an indoor entertainment facility.

[42:45] Some background on this request.

[42:47] It was brought to the attention of city staff that the existing restaurant was operating with

[42:51] pool tables.

[42:52] And the applicant was notified of the SAP requirement to operate as an indoor

[42:59] The business will continue operating as a restaurant, no expansion of the building, or change the primary use of the property is proposed as part of this request.

[43:09] The request to SUP is solely to authorize the indoor entertainment facility use associated with these amusement devices.

[43:17] Subject property again is zone retail and designated mix to use on the city's future land use plan

[43:23] As are the properties to the north the properties to the east are designated retail commercial to the south mixed use and retail commercial and to the west semi public

[43:35] July 30 at the city melt out 25 letters to all property owners within 300 feet the subject site

[43:41] staff has received no public feedback and response to the request

[43:45] The August 11th, Pying and Zoning Commission meeting commissioners recommended denial of the

[43:50] SP request by a vote of 3 to 2.

[43:54] Again, the request is for an SPP to operate in an indoor entertainment facility for

[43:58] Eagle Tavern and the retail zoning district and again, reminder of the UDC criteria for

[44:06] considering an SPP request that I read in my previous presentation and the council has the

[44:18] If you have any questions, staff and the applicant are available.

[44:25] Thanks, Calvin.

[44:26] This is a public hearing.

[44:28] Would anyone from the public like to speak on item H3?

[44:31] All right, seeing none.

[44:32] We'll recognize the motion.

[44:33] We got one.

[44:34] Oh, yeah.

[44:35] Go ahead, sir.

[44:35] Sorry, machine.

[44:42] And looking at the prex that's for a restaurant.

[44:45] says that a restaurant can have a city of color says a restaurant can have some entertainment

[44:53] items.

[44:54] I don't think I don't understand how two pool tables could bring them out of compliance

[44:58] of being a restaurant.

[45:00] I don't understand why they would need a special use for that.

[45:06] I have no objection to the special use, but I was just curious why this would be a necessity,

[45:12] which is two pool tables.

[45:14] Good feedback.

[45:17] That's all I've got.

[45:18] Thank you, sir.

[45:20] Would anyone else from the public like to speak?

[45:25] Councilman Will?

[45:30] Yes, Mr. Mayor.

[45:32] Sarah, to that gentleman's point, can you clarify, you know, why, in this instance, we're requiring an

[45:39] SUP if the zoning to early, the land use destination for restaurant under the development

[45:46] code allows for a certain amount of gaming or entertainment.

[45:51] So, while staff looks at up, let's go and recognize the mayor pro-times motion on the public hearing.

[45:57] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[45:58] We close the public hearing on item H3.

[46:01] Here, I'll second.

[46:03] Take a vote.

[46:07] All right.

[46:08] Public hearing is closed.

[46:09] Councilman Wolf's point.

[46:12] Sarah, what are your thoughts?

[46:13] So I'd have to look up the specific hood references.

[46:17] He's talking about the definition for restaurant in the UDC.

[46:21] Does it have anything about entertainment?

[46:23] It just mentions where people are eating at a restaurant.

[46:29] Erin and I had quite a few conversations about this.

[46:31] on in particular and went back and forth a little bit.

[46:34] We have in-color traditionally required businesses that we're putting in just pool tables to

[46:40] do the indoor entertainment because it is a service beyond just a traditional restaurant.

[46:48] Also is called out in the indoor entertainment definition that's on the screen and so I think

[46:53] that's kind of where our decision has hinge is that in the restaurant definition I don't

[46:57] have anything that says these other devices are allowed, but those are clearly called out

[47:01] in the end, we're entertainment definition.

[47:05] Thank you.

[47:05] How do you revisit the definition at some point in the future though?

[47:08] No.

[47:08] I just want clarification.

[47:09] Thank you.

[47:10] And I had a one question about the land use in that one slide that we looked at.

[47:16] I was just trying to understand the, maybe the theory behind having those two properties designated

[47:24] is mixed use when it's a strip mall. It's probably only going to be retail commercial at

[47:31] ever. So there's kind of curious why we have that as mixed use.

[47:37] I can't speak to that. It's been like this since the 2021 flood was adopted. I think probably

[47:43] I'll remember that is something definitely on our radar for doing some refresh to in certain areas

[47:49] like this where maybe it doesn't quite make sense so we're not quite sure what the reasoning

[47:52] behind it was will get revised either in this instance to retail commercial or whatever council

[47:58] thinks is most appropriate.

[48:00] Thank you.

[48:03] All right.

[48:03] Good questions, Mayor.

[48:04] Folks, I'm.

[48:05] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[48:06] I, for staff, I say maybe in the future because we have so much stuff right now in a backlog.

[48:12] Maybe next year, looking at do this because I think, you know, there is a line, obviously

[48:17] between restaurants and entertainment venue but also in some cases that are obviously we don't

[48:22] need extra red date.

[48:24] maybe we can empower staff to make that distinction more clearly,

[48:27] like we can make it easier for you to do that.

[48:30] So maybe next year, when we catch up on some of these

[48:32] of the backlogs, we can get to that item.

[48:35] Erin, do you want to comment on that?

[48:36] Because I know you were heavily involved in this one,

[48:38] in terms of the indoor entertainment,

[48:40] SUP.

[48:45] Well, I don't need a response.

[48:46] I was just saying in the future we can discuss it.

[48:48] Sorry, I wasn't looking up.

[48:49] I was just saying, as a council,

[48:50] we need to empower y'all if we think it's too much red tape.

[48:53] Yeah, I'm not saying you didn't think wrong.

[48:55] And I was saying we counsel need to clarify it, if we think it does or just leave it, if we agree.

[49:01] All right.

[49:02] Understood?

[49:04] I blame everyone on the 2020 when Flock Committee personally.

[49:08] Wait, I was on that one.

[49:09] Never mind.

[49:10] Councilman Armstrong.

[49:12] My question is going to be for staff as well.

[49:14] On the two dissenting votes on approval from PNZ,

[49:17] I don't care who they were, but the reasons do you recall?

[49:20] I

[49:24] don't, there was a public comment that evening with concern, and this was from a public,

[49:31] from the public, this was on a commissioner, with concern that an SEP for indoor entertainment

[49:35] doesn't limit the way it's proposed, it doesn't limit them from changing the nature of

[49:43] the business to be less restaurant and more pool hall or more heavy on the entertainment

[49:48] side.

[49:49] So there were some concerns with that.

[49:51] The applicant was also unable to attend P&Z.

[49:55] So that's always a concern for the commission when they're not,

[49:57] they're not there to answer questions about the business.

[50:00] I think there were some concerns about the gaming machines that have been installed that are still being reviewed by the police department.

[50:10] Good question. Is the applicant here tonight?

[50:15] Hey, I have a quick question for you, sir. If you don't mind, step in forward.

[50:20] Yeah, just so they can hear you on the YouTube live stream.

[50:23] Mr. Mayor, could I have a follow-up with Sarah's response just now?

[50:31] So the quick question I had was probably too part, one, how many pool tables are you looking to do?

[50:39] Just those two.

[50:41] Just two.

[50:42] And then do you have any opposition?

[50:43] Because one of the things we can do to kind of clear it up is just put a condition on your specific use permit that basically says we're limiting it to two pool tables.

[50:54] Would that be agreeable to you?

[50:55] Just two weeks fine. Yes, two weeks fine. Okay, fine. Yeah, I know it's probably a little bit a little bit about it. What is it?

[51:01] I think it's even pretty good. Yeah, I think I feel like I was not going to come here and meet in that all.

[51:06] You know, just sign whatever you want to do even to take out, you know.

[51:10] No, we're excited to have you here and all I was going to say is really appreciate you kind of going through the process.

[51:16] I think you'll be wise just for clarity, say, just to make that recommendation that we're just talking about two pool tables.

[51:22] but Councilman, well, did you have a follow-up?

[51:24] You actually hit my nail on the head.

[51:28] I can't go off with.

[51:30] It won't smile, hit one.

[51:32] Okay, so Mayor Pro time?

[51:35] Yeah, maybe we disagree.

[51:36] Y'all can make a motion to amend.

[51:38] I was going to move to approve H3 as presented.

[51:41] I don't think we need the red tape.

[51:43] It isn't big enough to really become a pull-hall, but if y'all want to amend it, that's fine.

[51:47] But my motion is to approve it as presented.

[51:50] Well, Cody Thorns in the audience with the community impact and he knows I can't resist an opportunity to amend a motion like that.

[51:56] So I will make a motion to amend.

[51:58] Now the way it works out will be fine. Item H3. So that way the specific use permit is limited to two pool tables as the applicants requested.

[52:08] And so procedurally we'll vote on that.

[52:11] But I have to get a second. Is there a second on that motion?

[52:17] All right, we have a motion in the second.

[52:20] Mayor Pro time, you're welcome to vote for this one as well.

[52:22] If you vote for clarification, if you vote against this, you can still vote.

[52:25] We're going to vote on the amendment.

[52:27] First, and then if that succeeds, then there's no further action necessary,

[52:32] because we'll have approved the item.

[52:34] If it, for some reason, fails, then we'll consider the Mayor Pro time's motion.

[52:38] And it's a point, we'll make sure.

[52:40] All right, so everyone clear on the motion or the amendment to the motion.

[52:44] All right, let's vote.

[52:45] All

[52:51] right, that passes for to thank you for coming in tonight, thank you very much.

[52:58] Thank you.

[53:05] All right.

[53:05] Next up is item H4.

[53:08] Consider resolution approving a special exception to the C of calorie UDC.

[53:15] Article 9, development standards, section 9.05, sign regulations for chalk and seal.

[53:19] And indoor entertainment facility for the existing 7,000-310 square foot lease space.

[53:23] On approximately 1.4 acres, located approximately 560 feet north east.

[53:26] With the intersection of Berlin Road and Clark Parkway,

[53:29] Lee glues describes Block A, Lot 4A, of the Schemwell edition.

[53:34] So on the retail and address $7.161, Clark Parkway,

[53:36] you know, 104, John Abrams, the applicant, MD Associates,

[53:39] LLC, is the owner.

[53:40] This is not a public hearing, so we get right to the staff presentation.

[53:43] Thank you, Mayor.

[53:44] Good evening, Council.

[53:46] Ariel and Zona Matt, before you subject property is Zona

[53:48] to retail.

[53:50] Chuck and steel co-recently have the recipe request approved

[53:53] on June 16th of this year to operate

[53:55] as an indoor entertainment facility at 761 COC Parkway Unit 104.

[53:59] They are now coming before you requesting a special exception to allow for two signs

[54:03] on the front facade of their lease space.

[54:06] UDC sign code states that one attached sign, building elevation or lease-based elevation,

[54:12] visible from a public street or with a public entrance is committed.

[54:16] Attached wall signs must be located minimum of one foot from the edge of the lease space.

[54:20] Their other request is to allow for signs to be composed of materials that are not listed

[54:25] in the EDC. EDC states that all permanent signs shall be constructed of quality materials,

[54:30] including aluminum, masonry, stone, brick, stucco, multiplastics and acrylic.

[54:36] As I mentioned,

[54:37] they are proposing two signs on the front elevation of their building. Both of those signs

[54:40] would meet the EDC requirements for an attached wall sign if submitted independently. And both

[54:46] signs are facing black and white and include digitally printed vinyl graphics and a

[54:50] luminer back up panel and the letters and borders will be constructed of high

[54:54] performance vinyl. EDC special exception does not require a public hearing switch.

[55:00] Public hearing notifications were sent out, public had an opportunity to speak on this agenda item during persons to be heard.

[55:08] At the August 11th, 2026, PNZ Commission meeting, commissioners recommend approval of SESUPR request by vote of 50.

[55:16] Section 9.05 B4A of the UDC list criteria for approval of a special exception to the signed code.

[55:24] Whether the requested exception will not adversely affect public safety, whether the requested exception will not adversely affect surrounding properties,

[55:30] whether the requested exception will be in harmony, whether special conditions exist, which

[55:36] are unique to the applicant, whether the requested exception demonstrates increased quality

[55:40] and standards, and whether the requested exception will be aesthetically appropriate in

[55:44] that area.

[55:47] Again, the two requests before this evening is to allow for two attached wall signs on the

[55:52] front facade of the building and to allow for the use sign materials that are not listed

[55:56] as approved material specified by the UDC.

[55:59] Council has the following options when considering UDC special exception, approve with the request

[56:05] of special exceptions, approve of modifications, table, or deny, and staff and the applicant

[56:10] are here for any questions.

[56:12] Thanks, Ethan.

[56:15] All right.

[56:16] This is not a public hearing.

[56:18] If you have a question, Councilman Wolfe?

[56:21] Yes, Mr. Mayor.

[56:23] Maybe I missed it.

[56:24] I was looking.

[56:25] It just says that we're looking for approval to use something other than what's listed, but it doesn't say actually what the sign is going to be composed of so do we know

[56:41] I may have missed it, but I don't see in the presentation.

[56:46] Yes sir, so material that they're proposing is vinyl and high performance vinyl. Both of those are not listed in the UDC is quality materials, so those are the two requests.

[56:56] All right, thank you.

[57:02] Thanks, Councilman.

[57:02] Councilman Armstrong.

[57:05] Being in the location that this place is going to be, they're going to need some help on

[57:09] signage.

[57:11] It's tucked back behind Sonic and a couple other restaurants and the signage looks really

[57:17] good and hopefully it'll draw you a bunch of people back there if it passes.

[57:21] So I think you need all the signage you can get back there.

[57:27] We have any, so if the quality materials just because our UDC doesn't list it as a quality

[57:31] material doesn't mean it's not a quality material.

[57:33] So what are the thoughts on the quality of the material if you don't give any insights or

[57:48] They're proud of their work

[57:50] The things that are going to be they're going to be printed on a particular type of

[57:55] Biomaterial

[57:58] That you're looking at the eight ball and the

[58:02] Dart dart board those two items

[58:06] The only two ways of making are

[58:08] General or vinyl or have a hand painted if they're hand painted. I can't afford the signs

[58:15] select about

[58:16] $8,000 to

[58:19] paint and eight ball in a chalkboard and a

[58:22] darkboard

[58:25] the sand maker

[58:27] Sure's us that the material will last at least it will be in its pristine condition for a minimum of ten years at

[58:36] 10 years, we'll probably start to see some decay and faded of those items at that time

[58:47] where I'm told is we can, they can come out, reprint those, take those off and put

[58:54] new ones on, and they'll be good for another 10 years.

[58:58] It's a commonly used material, okay.

[59:03] It's great. Thank you for that. Mayer-Protein?

[59:06] Yeah, just add that we have the same discussion at the sports park.

[59:09] We're looking at the difference between painting and vinyl.

[59:11] I think it'll be fine. I agree with Councilman Armstrong's point.

[59:16] Anything else for me?

[59:17] No, sir.

[59:18] Thank you. We have a motion from Councilman Armstrong.

[59:23] Motion to approve.

[59:25] Item H4.

[59:27] All right. Thank you, sir. Councilwoman Brennan.

[59:29] And I second the motion.

[59:31] All right, we have a motion in a second.

[59:32] Let's vote.

[59:38] All right, that passes.

[59:39] Thanks for coming in.

[59:41] And again, we're excited to have you here in the city of

[59:43] Keller.

[59:45] Thank you, sir.

[59:48] H5.

[59:49] Is the Public Security Center an ordinance

[59:51] approving amendments to the city of

[59:53] Keller unified development code adopted by

[59:55] ordinance number 1746.

[59:57] Data July 7, 2015 by

[59:58] Mending Article 8.

[1:00:00] Being to automobile electric charging stations, providing penalties, authorizing publication and establishing an effective date.

[1:00:08] Thank you, Mayor.

[1:00:12] So, back around here, as part of the comprehensive 2015 UDC update,

[1:00:17] the use automobile electric charging stations was added to the use charts for the neighborhood services, retail,

[1:00:24] Old Town Keller Town Center and Town Center Medical Zoning Districts.

[1:00:29] At that time, the use was designated as requiring a specific use permit in the Town Center

[1:00:35] Town Center Medical and the Main Street Subdistrict of the Old Town Keller Zoning District.

[1:00:41] While designated as permitted by right in the retail neighborhood services and neighborhood

[1:00:46] subdistrict of the Old Town Keller Zoning District.

[1:00:49] The proposed amendment would modify the use charts of the retail neighborhood services and

[1:00:55] neighborhood sub-district to require a specific use permit for automobile electric charging

[1:01:01] stations.

[1:01:04] So, you can see that proposed change in the use charts here for the retail neighborhood

[1:01:09] services and neighborhood sub-district of T.K.

[1:01:13] table. Based on a change recommended by the planning and zoning commission, there would also be

[1:01:22] the stipulation in the neighborhood sub-district use chart that states that the SCP is not required for

[1:01:28] automobile electric charging stations at single family homes within the neighborhood sub-district.

[1:01:36] So again, the proposed amendment would change,

[1:01:40] I don't want to be electric charging stations from permitted

[1:01:43] to specific use permit required in the retail neighborhood

[1:01:46] services and old town-keller neighborhood sub-district

[1:01:49] zoning districts.

[1:01:52] At the August 11 planning and zoning commission meeting,

[1:01:55] commissioners unanimously recommend that approval

[1:01:57] of the proposed amendments with the condition that the SUP

[1:01:59] requirement does not apply to single family homes

[1:02:02] within the neighborhood sub-district of the OTTK zoning district.

[1:02:07] And a amendment to the tax to the UDC requires a public hearing notice to be published in the local newspaper 15 days prior to the schedule of planning and zoning commission meeting date.

[1:02:17] The notice for the city council public hearing was published in the August 16th, 2026 edition of the fourth star telegram.

[1:02:25] And staff has not received any comments from the public regarding the proposed UDC amendments.

[1:02:30] City Council has the following options when considering this amendment, approve as submitted,

[1:02:36] approve of modifications or additional conditions, table or deny. If you have any questions,

[1:02:44] staff is available.

[1:02:46] Awesome. Thank you. So, this is a public hearing.

[1:02:51] What anyone from the public like to discuss item H5.

[1:02:59] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[1:03:01] I'm moving we close the public hearing on item H5.

[1:03:04] Thank you, Councilwoman Brennan.

[1:03:06] I'll second.

[1:03:06] Motion to second, let's vote.

[1:03:09] Public hearing is closed.

[1:03:13] I just want to briefly acknowledge the Mayor

[1:03:16] Pro Tem for bringing this item forward.

[1:03:19] I think it's important that we create a path.

[1:03:22] For folks to live work and play in gallery,

[1:03:25] but there are times where we have to have quality controls.

[1:03:28] and so this is I think a good time for that and I'll be in favor of this item.

[1:03:35] Councilwoman Brennan.

[1:03:36] You're just a question for staff real quick, I'm also in favor of this item.

[1:03:40] I believe this is in reaction to the electric charging stations that were placed at the

[1:03:45] Walmart that we all didn't really realize we're going to be there and they were allowed

[1:03:49] by right because it was considered retail and so this would then require that they would

[1:03:56] I'm in front of City Council next time, something like that comes up.

[1:04:01] That is correct. We do have one application that was received before the UDC ordinance was even started.

[1:04:10] That I don't know that we can retroactively apply the SUP application to the particular application that is under review right now is much farther from the road in a retail parking lot.

[1:04:22] But everything else going forward would have to come to Council.

[1:04:28] Okay, as an SGP.

[1:04:30] Can I ask who's the applicant?

[1:04:33] It's actually the property.

[1:04:37] It's adjacent to the Croger over here, but it's not Croger.

[1:04:41] It's actually the property that a few years ago.

[1:04:43] Council did a zoning change to kind of carve out a donut hole of retail in the middle of town center.

[1:04:48] Otherwise, they wouldn't be allowed to do the station.

[1:04:52] And when we did that vote, we were actually curing some of the medical use issues if I recall.

[1:05:00] If we're talking about the same area, I think that's why the property was re-zoned, right?

[1:05:05] I don't remember. It's been over five years since the re-zone. It's just an unusual little spot of retail that's surrounded on all sides by town center.

[1:05:14] Yeah, I think, you know, maybe we can, yeah, that's, that was the medical

[1:05:19] um, to the manager showing me a map, you know, for whatever it's worth from a

[1:05:23] council perspective, basically what happened is there were

[1:05:28] sweets that were outfitted with medical equipment and then the zoning

[1:05:34] changed underneath those, those owners and those occupants feet.

[1:05:40] a couple at least once spot when vacant with the investment of medical, and then it wouldn't

[1:05:46] vacant.

[1:05:47] What is it?

[1:05:48] It used to be vacant for more than six months or a year, I think it's six months.

[1:05:53] Yeah, so they're vacant longer than six months, and so we had this medical building that

[1:05:57] wasn't allowed for medical uses.

[1:05:58] And so to cure that issue, we rezoned it so that way there wouldn't be as much red tape

[1:06:04] It seems to be a theme of this meeting.

[1:06:08] However, it also opened the door for this application, apparently.

[1:06:13] Who's the owner?

[1:06:20] Right now.

[1:06:22] I don't have it off to my mind.

[1:06:23] Probably the same folks that we, so I'll chat with you off, I'll find about it, Sarah.

[1:06:28] So that way we can, I can get a few more questions answered.

[1:06:32] Thank you.

[1:06:33] Did you hear your question answered?

[1:06:34] Yeah.

[1:06:34] All right.

[1:06:35] May I put some?

[1:06:36] Yeah.

[1:06:36] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

[1:06:37] Thanks to the manager and the mayor for helping move this long.

[1:06:42] I shouldn't say for those listening, every system's out there.

[1:06:45] The concern was multi-focused public safety, no matter whether it's a refueling station

[1:06:50] for a combustion engine or a electric vehicle.

[1:06:54] We want to make sure it has safety noticing and also a safety component on off switch.

[1:07:00] Things of that nature and also to let consumers know that they can park in those spots.

[1:07:04] Most of, like, if you go over here,

[1:07:07] I'm gonna lose my mind, this is on right here.

[1:07:10] Right here, Senator.

[1:07:11] Thank you, town center.

[1:07:13] And if you park there, it says that anyone's allowed

[1:07:15] to park there, but they are for charging.

[1:07:17] That way, some of the smaller restaurants of businesses

[1:07:20] aren't affected in a million or eight,

[1:07:23] they're concerns.

[1:07:24] But also, just any type of charging station

[1:07:28] for the environment and all of the reasons listed above

[1:07:31] were what led to this.

[1:07:32] So, just for y'all's edification with that, I'd like to move to approve item H5.

[1:07:38] So, we're recognized, is there a second?

[1:07:41] Councilman will?

[1:07:42] I second.

[1:07:43] All right.

[1:07:43] We have a motion in a second.

[1:07:46] All right.

[1:07:46] Let's vote on H5.

[1:07:53] Okay.

[1:07:53] That passes.

[1:07:54] Thanks again, Mayor Pro.

[1:07:55] It's time for bringing that forward.

[1:07:56] It's a good work on behalf of the City of Color.

[1:07:58] With that, no consideration of H6 is necessary, because it's duplicative, so we'll go ahead

[1:08:04] But recess briefly and then start our work session in about three minutes.

[1:08:17] Question.

[1:08:20] SDRs.

[1:08:21] Discuss this issue.

[1:08:24] Discuss this issue a couple of times over the past few years.

[1:08:28] My recollection from the last update was that Council essentially asked staff to do some work and

[1:08:35] in the issue, and so I think if I'm understanding it, right, Sarah's bringing forward some of her

[1:08:40] findings tonight, is that all right, Sarah?

[1:08:41] Yes, Sarah.

[1:08:42] All right.

[1:08:42] My point here is.

[1:08:44] So a brief recap, we have not actually drafted right-election language yet, but I'm looking

[1:08:50] for tonight is some direction on specific parts of how you want that to be.

[1:08:55] And then we can do a subsequent work session, and we can go straight to P&Z, whatever next

[1:09:00] that Council wants to do at the beginning of the start of the final.

[1:09:03] So, on 2020, we're a handful of work sessions with the Council and the PC level,

[1:09:09] and we're just testing the adoption of SCR regulations.

[1:09:12] We've got as far as the PZ actually made the presentation on

[1:09:17] some draft ordinance language, but ultimately Council decided not to take any action

[1:09:22] if you remember at that time.

[1:09:24] Several cities were going through lawsuits related to their regulations and I think the

[1:09:32] killer position was to kind of watch and see if she would have had going.

[1:09:38] We revisited the item back in May of this year, that's when Comple has Mayor MacLumanschins

[1:09:43] directed to have to do some more research and begin preparing for adopting regulations

[1:09:48] and later this fall.

[1:09:50] So since then, we did two input meetings we met with folks that are concerned or have been

[1:09:58] personally impacted by...

[1:10:00] May be right next door or in the vicinity of a short term rental. And just folks that are concerned about the issue in general, so we had an input meeting back in June with those folks, just listening at the sat-level octings and generic questions. But I really just wanted to listen to them their experiences and what they have found because a lot of them are a lot of information about what's in other cities. We also did a meeting in August where we reached out to local SCR operators, so folks that are color-residents.

[1:10:30] but also own and operate for terminals within the city.

[1:10:33] So we did that meeting in August, the same format.

[1:10:35] We just did a lot of listening at the Seth level.

[1:10:39] As in generic questions on how they felt

[1:10:40] about different things and what their experience had been.

[1:10:44] But again, really primarily listening from the Seth perspective.

[1:10:48] In addition to those, we met with the League Council

[1:10:50] of the Texas Neighborhood Coalition.

[1:10:52] That's the group that I'm sure all of you have talked to Mr. Schlegel.

[1:10:57] He's been very involved with.

[1:10:58] and that group has been incredibly involved

[1:11:01] with mobilizing a lot of communities

[1:11:03] and drafting the ordinances across the state.

[1:11:07] We're related to short-term rental regulations.

[1:11:09] I mean, I also spent a good deal of time

[1:11:11] reading other cities ordinances,

[1:11:13] and then a lot of time with the staff

[1:11:15] from gray vining in our age in particular

[1:11:17] in our age has probably the most recently adopted regulations

[1:11:20] that have some pretty good stuff

[1:11:23] in it that seems appropriate for color.

[1:11:26] Not to duplicate, but good reference for sure.

[1:11:32] So as I mentioned today, we're seeking some direction on specific parts of what we might.

[1:11:37] So guidelines to say, so starting off with the definition, pretty consistently across most cities.

[1:11:45] It's some sort of rental, you know, that first language kind of varies here and there, but it's always less than 30 days.

[1:11:52] It's pretty consistent.

[1:11:54] And then I think we want to be clear that the ordinance is going to apply to property

[1:12:00] even if it's owner occupied, investor owned, doesn't matter.

[1:12:04] All of these regulations would apply the same if you're renting the property for fee.

[1:12:13] This is a topic definitely want to get some council input on how we want to write this in terms of allowable locations.

[1:12:20] I put three options up here, but really there's probably several others, some kind of combination of a few of these.

[1:12:26] So first, looking at only allowing SCRs in certain districts, so examples might be

[1:12:31] old Tom Keller or multi-family, this option could exclude all the single-family districts.

[1:12:38] And just to note, if we allowed it in multi-family, that would of course be in the

[1:12:43] discretion of the property owner.

[1:12:46] We could also write something in that it was limited to a certain percentage of the units

[1:12:50] and a boy having, maybe, an apartment complex that has a majority of her terminals.

[1:12:57] Option two, you could allow SCRs and certain districts, kind of like an option one,

[1:13:03] plus single-family neighborhoods if they're already operating to continue to operate in a single-family

[1:13:11] neighborhoods.

[1:13:12] They would need to meet some requirements to achieve a grand-bothered status, and that grandfather

[1:13:18] that is could be non-transferable to a new property owner that would be a decision from the

[1:13:25] Council.

[1:13:26] In order to enhance the model that they did, a lot of path for grandfathering for existing

[1:13:32] operators, but they have made it where it's non-transferable.

[1:13:36] So ultimately the long term, in fact, is going to be no short term rentals in their single

[1:13:40] family districts.

[1:13:42] Third option would be SCP approval by city council.

[1:13:47] We could apply that across the board to all zoning districts or only to single family districts.

[1:13:53] So maybe you'll dial them by right and places like Old Town or multi-family,

[1:13:57] but if it's in a single family district, you have to get an SGB.

[1:14:01] Current operators would need to either be grandfathered or would have to come in and apply for that SGB.

[1:14:08] So I don't know if we want to pause for a moment Mayor and discuss this one of them

[1:14:12] to go through, there's only a few more slides.

[1:14:15] I'd like to get through it.

[1:14:16] Yeah.

[1:14:17] Good question.

[1:14:19] Um, draft registration requirements, annual fee for each property, um, when you need a constant

[1:14:25] information for the owner and a local emergency contact, um, that can be on site with,

[1:14:29] uh, within a certain period of time, uh, want to support plan and survey well, the parking

[1:14:35] is going to be something that tells them the parking can't be anywhere then in the garage

[1:14:41] driveway or the curb that's immediately adjacent to the home, in the initial year they

[1:14:46] would have to acknowledge the requirement to permit hot taxes and then in subsequent years

[1:14:51] staff would confirm that they had been paying their hot taxes every month.

[1:14:58] Infections would be required annual.

[1:15:01] So, I'm sorry I don't have a question.

[1:15:03] I'm sorry to be a person.

[1:15:03] Sorry to interrupt. Well, I'm not sorry.

[1:15:05] And no one's ever sorry of that, or I'm not.

[1:15:10] I'm not sorry to interrupt you.

[1:15:12] Bye bye.

[1:15:13] I'm about to take that, I'm about to take that.

[1:15:17] For example.

[1:15:19] Well, for the late 19th of October, all right.

[1:15:23] So, I remember from 2020 to that we were discussing possibly

[1:15:27] like staff capacity to monitor the hot-to-act is that still an issue or

[1:15:36] I think some of it's gonna depend on which method you go so if we're being

[1:15:39] extra restricted then we could probably do it internally but if we're gonna look at

[1:15:43] an option that allows it in multiple areas as GP we probably would look at a third

[1:15:48] party to monitor that that also allows them to have some companies that we'll

[1:15:53] also be that able to form the collection and then also very point-placed

[1:15:59] if there's complaints, they can go and complain to that.

[1:16:01] That third party vendor, so there's a system at that.

[1:16:05] So, corrects a general good oversight of the program.

[1:16:09] So, again, I think it's been, we dependent on how restricted

[1:16:12] we want to be versus, and don't monitor all STRs as well.

[1:16:16] That is also not necessarily part of it.

[1:16:18] Because as they would, look at the, look at the various websites

[1:16:24] to figure out who is actually renting out whether they registered

[1:16:27] or not, and then a report activist.

[1:16:29] Okay.

[1:16:30] So then it's the hot tax pay for that.

[1:16:32] You're sorry.

[1:16:33] You're the hot tax for that.

[1:16:34] You didn't mention that.

[1:16:35] I just thanks for the pressure.

[1:16:39] So some restrictions will want to put on.

[1:16:43] Churcherminal is absolutely no external signage anywhere.

[1:16:47] On the property.

[1:16:47] No more than two guests per bedroom.

[1:16:50] Plus two additional guests.

[1:16:52] That's allowed.

[1:16:52] So if you have a living room with a below so far or something like that.

[1:16:55] It's still limits the number of folks in the home.

[1:17:00] This language on Alphore gatherings and Amplified Music

[1:17:03] put it in italics.

[1:17:05] You find something similar in some cities.

[1:17:06] Ornances.

[1:17:08] She fortunate and I talked about it a little bit.

[1:17:10] It made me better to actually delete

[1:17:11] and just rely on the noise ordinances

[1:17:14] and everything else we already have in the code

[1:17:16] for officers that are responding.

[1:17:21] Later in the evening,

[1:17:22] it's also difficult to find an Alphore gathering

[1:17:24] is that just the family of four that's staying there or is that a certain number of people

[1:17:28] that you can start getting pretty deep into the weeks on that one and then some cities have

[1:17:36] a three strikes in your out system for substantiated by violations we put it just two here.

[1:17:43] And you say substantiated what does that mean?

[1:17:45] It means that most likely the police department it could be co-compliance in terms of what it's

[1:17:51] most likely the police department is called out to the site and confirmed that they're in violation

[1:17:57] of either something in the city code or at this moment.

[1:18:01] So they're basically concerned, confirming that it's not just some angry neighbor who just

[1:18:08] keeps calling in complaints, frivolously, to...

[1:18:11] Yeah.

[1:18:12] Because if we did it just based on the number of calls, it would likely be unfair to the owner.

[1:18:17] Yeah.

[1:18:17] of the situation.

[1:18:18] It's your question.

[1:18:19] I was thinking about it from the, you know, there are STR operators that are very responsible

[1:18:27] and they're obviously not, but if you're responsible operator and the grass is one week

[1:18:32] a little bit too high and then, you know, you know, you get a coat of compliance.

[1:18:37] That's what I'm going to make sure it wasn't like trying to understand the level of scrutiny

[1:18:43] with, when we say it, it's instantiated.

[1:18:45] Complaining?

[1:18:46] I think it would lean more towards the guidelines and the ordinance, I don't think we would be looking to shut down.

[1:18:53] And we can definitely firm this up in the actual language.

[1:18:56] We wanted to be very specific to violations of the requirements and restrictions in this ordinance.

[1:19:02] Because sure.

[1:19:02] I don't think the intent would be to, you know, if we were to allow for terminals to shut them down over one call over grassman a little bit too high.

[1:19:11] Maybe we just reference worlds and the code is that you could just reference the certain section.

[1:19:18] Because I know that we go in sometimes and we write some of the code that's duplicate and repeat it rather than repeating it again.

[1:19:28] We could always just reference a section.

[1:19:30] So if that section later changes, we'll just have to go back and change this.

[1:19:35] Sure.

[1:19:41] And we include this option for somebody has their registration report, so there would be

[1:19:48] an appeal process through the CDA, but the CDA is well positioned to do this type of appeal.

[1:19:53] They're already charged with hearing appeals to the decision of an administrative official

[1:19:58] or code interpretation.

[1:20:00] Which happens from time to time? So that was our suggestion here.

[1:20:06] One out, just that was advocate, one out, P&Z.

[1:20:13] We certainly could. The reasoning behind CBA is because the UDC already specified CBA as the appeal for if you're unhappy with a decision by an administrative official from the city or co-interpretation, there are hearing means of fields.

[1:20:29] That's a judicial law.

[1:20:30] It's quasi-judicial.

[1:20:32] And then also the decision of the EVA can't be overturned by the bill of council.

[1:20:37] If you want to appeal that, ask for the district court.

[1:20:40] That's why I kind of was like ordering a ballot for that reason.

[1:20:44] That's interesting policy thought.

[1:20:47] So, but we bottom line is we have flexibility, the EVA or P&Z.

[1:20:51] We have to be both.

[1:20:53] Have you got any idea?

[1:20:55] So, like I mentioned, we can do another work session at the next meeting, but actually it would be October 16th before we can actually get a full section of the code written for review, or if you guys want to skip the work session, we will get the language drafted and go ahead and start a scheduling half the PNC.

[1:21:17] I have a question.

[1:21:19] I have three or two pills.

[1:21:21] They support us at the past.

[1:21:23] They have a minimum to stay in requirement at the past two days.

[1:21:26] Can we add a save in here?

[1:21:28] Or just what?

[1:21:29] Greater than earlier, less than 30.

[1:21:32] No, no.

[1:21:32] You do a part in it, too.

[1:21:33] I said just one night.

[1:21:35] We have to be at least two nights.

[1:21:36] So we consider that.

[1:21:38] We can certainly include that.

[1:21:39] Some of the advice we got from the Texas Average Coalition was to pay advice against it.

[1:21:44] It's just another thing that you could end up possibly getting so helpful and also what the

[1:21:51] concern is that you're the one that inverses tonight.

[1:21:54] Well, I think a lot, based on the conversation we have with the local operators, a lot

[1:21:59] of them are already doing that, the requiring a two-night minimum say, the ones that are operating

[1:22:03] properties in color and the reason is by requiring that like we can bomb non-point, I say it eliminates

[1:22:10] It's a lot of the folks that want to run a house for one night for a party.

[1:22:14] So be an expensive party because they get a really good opportunity.

[1:22:20] Okay.

[1:22:21] How would that would be a suggestion a two-night minimum two-night same?

[1:22:26] I mean, I think I don't know, maybe I'll end up being wrong, but I think we can knock this out right now

[1:22:31] and just don't illustrate the P&C personally.

[1:22:34] But what are thoughts, Council on?

[1:22:37] The direction you want to go, I mean I've been pretty clear from the get-go that I just

[1:22:42] I don't know.

[1:22:43] Based on both qualitative quantitative feedback, I'm going to take action.

[1:22:47] I'd be much more inclined for three.

[1:22:49] That's your figure out, but I don't know what you guys think.

[1:22:53] Are we concerned?

[1:22:54] We could be concerned legally.

[1:22:56] I mean if we just outright ban.

[1:22:58] I mean, I'm off for grandfathering.

[1:23:00] The ones that we exist.

[1:23:02] But making them apply and get them on the record, all that.

[1:23:05] But for brand new STRs and residential areas, are we open to legal action?

[1:23:11] Because I think there's been some cases in the state of Texas, Austin, particularly where that was an issue because of personal property rights and an ability for an individual to do what they want to but they're landed that doesn't want to lay for long.

[1:23:26] So that's what I wonder if that part of it would be a problem for the city.

[1:23:31] Yeah, I think you debit path forward that's feasible, I'm ready to list six of them.

[1:23:38] I think an hour out of the van will be a concern.

[1:23:41] Yes.

[1:23:43] It was a good question.

[1:23:45] I don't know if you might want to call people when we get a thing.

[1:23:49] I mean, as it relates to the three options, you have an instinct.

[1:23:54] You like one?

[1:23:59] I just kind of curious about the process.

[1:24:02] So it's a reason why we wouldn't want to do another work session before this goes to P&Z.

[1:24:07] in like right it out. Let's see what it looks like. Yeah. Yeah, mainly to get their feet back because ultimately we're going to get

[1:24:16] What would we be sending? I guess that's to Karen so why not? We would give. Yeah, so we would give policy direction,

[1:24:24] big picture, direction to Sarah tonight. So that way, you know, if we want to go with the SEP or out,

[1:24:31] then she could start working on that language and present it to P&Z. They could all tighten it up and then we'd reconsider it.

[1:24:39] We can only do another work session, we can do five work sessions, so it's just kind of inside our discretion.

[1:24:48] But because this is already our second work session with this council on it, I was thinking, why would we need four bytes of the apple?

[1:24:54] I think three is enough, but that's just me.

[1:24:57] I guess my opinion is that one of the right options is that

[1:25:00] We have one more city council in the work session, where we all look at it and read it and then say, yeah, that's good, that's just a minute to be in a seat.

[1:25:13] All right, we're here late.

[1:25:15] What was the consensus out of the group that looked at this?

[1:25:22] Which one did they have another three options, but which one did they lead in the courts?

[1:25:28] So, that's what I wanted tonight was direction on one of these options, and then we can take whichever option council is leaning towards a metal we're going to actually write, because this isn't code language.

[1:25:41] So, you didn't answer my question.

[1:25:44] Well, I don't have any answer.

[1:25:46] I have a person in the job.

[1:25:49] So, what they would say now is a problem.

[1:25:51] They don't want to be pregnant.

[1:25:52] Sure.

[1:25:53] you could speak to it, I think we were the one council at the time of Chris was, my recollection

[1:25:59] from 2022 with a long story short essentially that there was just wasn't a whole lot of empirical

[1:26:04] data to support taking action. We actually heard from a high volume of, and I'm talking to

[1:26:11] citywide, yes, they're documented, individual instances, no question about that, and I was arguing

[1:26:17] But 2022, the thought was, you know, see why there's some isolated instances, let's try to attack it through the forcement.

[1:26:25] That was the, and also the other issue, you know, waking up now was that's worth with the HOA's.

[1:26:31] So I do work with Bill, some of the HOA is to say, you know, if you guys want to say the action, then you know, you absolutely can't.

[1:26:40] So some of them did my understanding, but that's, that's where we landed in the 2022.

[1:26:45] There's a lot of folks here who've got some emails from them that unsolicited emails

[1:26:50] anyway that spoke to that and said, hey, well, it appears operators in color that are

[1:26:56] believe that the individual, excuse me, that wrote today, she had a good line, it was something

[1:27:02] the effect of, you know, let's not run you, let's not basically punish the good apples, that

[1:27:07] was a complaint.

[1:27:08] But let's all say, absolutely, we believe this is an SDR operator and her point was, let's

[1:27:13] absolutely take action on those that are not operating in good faith.

[1:27:17] So, that's why I was, that kind of gets integration.

[1:27:21] I like her letter.

[1:27:22] That kind of gets to your question about, you know,

[1:27:26] being Sarah didn't necessarily have a chance to propose these three options

[1:27:29] to any of the subgroups, but that's kind of where we were at 2022.

[1:27:34] That being said, you know, there was some communications with folks in the HRSA more,

[1:27:40] but it's still an issue and so I was promised to be able to put on the agenda and others did as well.

[1:27:46] So we have an agenda, I think the intensity action, you're with one, you're with three, I'm with three,

[1:27:54] probably think. I think if I were the king of Calder and do whatever I wanted, I would lean more towards the one,

[1:28:01] but I think number two does a really good job of splitting the baby on this one.

[1:28:06] It doesn't allow any new SDRs in neighborhoods and doesn't overly burden the people who are already operating if they're operating in good faith, and it gives us an option to hold them accountable if they aren't operating in good faith or creating problems, districts and eventually it will eventually lead to one thing.

[1:28:36] at some point because those properties will change hands at some point in the grandfather status

[1:28:41] would not be transferable to the new property owner.

[1:28:44] So it would eventually become a single-family residence again.

[1:28:48] Because that is the, I mean, again, and I said the last time we discuss this is, I don't know

[1:28:53] how we get around the fact that it's single-family residential zoning.

[1:28:58] The implication in that very name is that it is somebody's primary residence.

[1:29:03] it is their home, and they have some buy-in to that neighborhood because it is their home.

[1:29:13] Again, I think it's Council could go put a health in the middle of hidden lakes if we

[1:29:19] wanted to, but we're not because it is a neighborhood where people live.

[1:29:24] And I don't understand how homes are suddenly become hotels, and it's just all the neighbors

[1:29:33] problems to deal with all the problems that come with that.

[1:29:38] They should just suck it up and live with it.

[1:29:40] It is apparently the opinion of some people.

[1:29:44] So I think number two because we're a really good job of

[1:29:48] allowing people who are currently operating.

[1:29:58] I think...

[1:30:00] I think it leaves it up to the council, the will of the council, and if council wakes up tomorrow and decides they want to do something different, then it, I think it just adds up resulting in a weakened portion.

[1:30:15] So can I add that comment on three yeah, I would just add one thing when I say because I need to touch up my own comment

[1:30:23] And then jump right to here. I would uh I would just say I'm for three

[1:30:28] But it's your column with some actual accountability like it's a revoltable

[1:30:34] SUV and if there's so you can incorporate which one has the two strikes you're outruled

[1:30:40] Yeah, so if if they don't follow their instructions, all right

[1:30:46] but I were already talking about how late we're going to be here and if it's just a texture,

[1:30:52] I don't think it comes to us. They're not coming to us because they're nice. They're probably

[1:30:56] going to have an issue we might have at us. I don't think we need this counselor any other former

[1:31:00] future counsel to have to deal with like that on a one-on-one basis created entity that already says

[1:31:06] here's where it's at once it's gone. Like two says and deal with it. So they will come to us on the

[1:31:13] good on, right? Because they have to, but they would go to ZBA when they're bad

[1:31:18] after. So we would do what that sort of deal with the bad actors, because they'd be

[1:31:22] penalized, revolve, and go to ZBA, but we're already here a long time, and I'm trying to

[1:31:28] get stuff off the work session. We'd have a PhD in the room. If I may, and I think I

[1:31:33] understood your, your question a little bit, I haven't presented these three options

[1:31:37] to, to any group. Council of P and Z, that's what I thought you were asking. We did

[1:31:41] asked a lot of questions of the different groups.

[1:31:44] And I don't want to spend, I mean, we had a lot of the individuals

[1:31:46] on those groups, and so I'm summarizing, I'm sure there are

[1:31:49] different opinions.

[1:31:50] But I think the first group, the concerned group,

[1:31:53] you know, people that have been impacted by SCRs,

[1:31:55] I think that overall response I got was,

[1:31:58] they would love to see an overall ban,

[1:32:00] but they also understand that we pull.

[1:32:02] In fact, it's basically, it goes in fact, it's basically,

[1:32:05] yes, they would like to see the total ban and single family

[1:32:09] understand the legal implications. For the operators, they were generally opposed to the

[1:32:14] SUP process because they're concerned about the public hearing notification to people

[1:32:21] that in their words to folks that may not even know that they live next to R2 and SCR,

[1:32:27] but then we'll be opposed to it just because it's an SCR. Again, I'm really paraphrasing and

[1:32:33] summarizing the input we got at those meetings.

[1:32:35] I'm going to give feedback on the SCP from operators as I can neighbors actually is interesting.

[1:32:40] All right. That's helpful.

[1:32:43] So, how do these like three allowable options? Do we have, well, we obviously do for the

[1:32:49] moments, yeah, right, man. But then for the others, do we have any examples in surrounding

[1:32:54] municipalities?

[1:32:56] So, two is very similar to North Virgin Hills where they have allowed, and actually it's okay.

[1:33:09] So, they grandfathered, they were assisting operating SCRs, if they met certain criteria, they had to come in and register, they had to get infected, they had to get right with two years of contact, all that kind of stuff, but they put in there that it was non-transferable, again, so ultimately, there won't be any SCRs in single family zoning.

[1:33:30] But they are allowing them under certain conditions and multi-family, and then they have some non-residential

[1:33:36] areas and transit oriented development where they're allowing them.

[1:33:39] So, two is probably the most like reference in health.

[1:33:42] What's wrong with the Rono option?

[1:33:45] Because can you revoke their registration if their like council could just spit out the policy criteria?

[1:33:51] And then if they violate their choice, then it was their registration.

[1:33:58] Is that a viable rule?

[1:34:02] I think that would.

[1:34:04] I think it's a good thing.

[1:34:05] So I mean, I would say it is a viable, I think,

[1:34:08] probably opens up more than maybe consoles

[1:34:11] intended to give in the situation the citizen concerns.

[1:34:16] So that thing that was dodged.

[1:34:17] Logically, depending on the SUV,

[1:34:18] it comes before you, you're aware of it, you know,

[1:34:20] where they are, you have a saying, well,

[1:34:23] yeah, that's the sense or not.

[1:34:24] This with, I mean, with the right guidelines,

[1:34:28] you could do a registration option,

[1:34:30] but more likely you will be allowing

[1:34:32] anywhere in the city that isn't banned by the H.O.A., but didn't have to follow the rules and then to that.

[1:34:37] Well, they're already, I guess, my point is they're already allowed today, correct.

[1:34:41] So, we have registration and the pay taxes, then to Council on Armstrong's point,

[1:34:47] which I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but you're like, hey, why do we need all this on our agenda

[1:34:51] in summary? And I'm like, well, so that way we could have some accountability.

[1:34:58] I'm just wondering if that's, I don't know, what do you guys think?

[1:35:00] Hi, I'll give you a month. Can you go back to the three options? For me, actually, I think our jigs are full in the work session, exactly. I think out there we're actually okay. I could be the only one.

[1:35:13] Yeah, originally, I like number two, because selfishly, if I buy a house in a single family home zone area, I don't expect for, you know, an SDR to be there. However, you know, I don't know if everyone's a chance to reach something email is like, there's one family.

[1:35:27] elderly couple like their house either burnt down or something and so they were able to

[1:35:30] stay in color because they could use STR for a longer term. I originally I wasn't a fan of

[1:35:37] this stuff but I think we've all seen situations rare situations where maybe a sub would help

[1:35:43] a family or even a neighborhood that's okay with it. It could be a neighborhood of only three houses

[1:35:48] on it. I mean there's just different scenarios. So I'm actually kind of leaning towards number

[1:35:51] three now where the mayor was, but I did like I'm fine with number two as well, but I don't

[1:35:59] I'm going.

[1:35:59] Okay, the number three will come.

[1:36:01] I'm sorry.

[1:36:01] The number three.

[1:36:03] Okay, says here, current offers you there would be, I would say number three, but they

[1:36:09] would have to, just like that you say that the people that are already in an operating

[1:36:12] SDR would have to go through the process and make sure that they, the Santa smile would

[1:36:19] work.

[1:36:19] So they would have to go to the SOP process because they're already an STR but they would have to pass all the requirements that we're now putting on the STR.

[1:36:29] That's part of numbers three.

[1:36:30] I would want direction.

[1:36:32] If we go to the SOP route, do you want to make all of the current operators get an SOP to continue operating or do you want to grandfather?

[1:36:40] I don't know.

[1:36:41] Are we allowed to do that?

[1:36:42] I don't think we could do that.

[1:36:45] We create a registration process under number 30, so that current operators can register, but not necessarily have to go through the SGP process as long as they're registered and they're meeting the requirements that we put in place.

[1:37:02] And obviously wouldn't lose their grandfather's status because they're operating in good faith.

[1:37:08] And then...

[1:37:11] But...

[1:37:13] To extract you.

[1:37:15] You're on a good state.

[1:37:16] If you stop there, you're in your good spot.

[1:37:19] That's a good thing.

[1:37:21] Yeah, actually.

[1:37:22] I also like to keep putting on this.

[1:37:24] I'm going to...

[1:37:24] We're going to have to say anything.

[1:37:26] Can I just say something?

[1:37:28] Because I've set up down the last time.

[1:37:30] And I'm going to be out now.

[1:37:31] Yeah, so typically, we don't have that, just to be honest with you, because it gets pretty.

[1:37:37] It's pretty quick.

[1:37:39] Yeah, I like an answer to the Mayor Prof. James's question first.

[1:37:43] Stan was the answer to the councilman, well, or Mayor Prof. James kind of wants about.

[1:37:50] What can we do legally?

[1:37:53] I guess those two, those are two part of it.

[1:37:55] One, number one, can we require a firm operator to go through the NSUP process?

[1:38:02] But if they're operating legally now, we probably wouldn't want to do that because they

[1:38:07] already have a tolerance that you could put rent, station, and criteria to continue.

[1:38:13] What is zoning approval?

[1:38:15] A little bit of a rate of approval, that's coming in the registration inspections, whatever

[1:38:21] we would make this a criteria, and that's why we won't want to do it.

[1:38:27] And then you just go ask your people.

[1:38:29] And that's what melted in Hell's Diff by the way.

[1:38:31] I'm looking at their blast in the end of that.

[1:38:34] How?

[1:38:35] How would the enforcement action look that?

[1:38:38] Because with regard to properties that get an SUV, it would be a revocable SUV

[1:38:43] where they could no longer continue to operate.

[1:38:46] But if current operators, let's say somebody lost their mind and started having

[1:38:51] papers every Saturday with 500 people in the backyard.

[1:38:57] Because there's no

[1:38:58] S&P in place, how would I guess what would achieve when we had there?

[1:39:04] It would effectively have been the same for itself. You were in violation of our

[1:39:09] words, but it would require you to do that to go to go for or continue.

[1:39:14] So if you didn't make those legal registration compliance requirements, you would

[1:39:19] lose the right. In fact, it would lose your grant for our status.

[1:39:27] Thank you. Is that clear? Yes.

[1:39:31] It's an important question. I would still like to say that whichever one we decided to choose

[1:39:35] I agree with what Councillor Will said. The main emphasis would be to get back to have a single family

[1:39:42] residential and single family.

[1:39:48] New questions for staff.

[1:39:54] So we don't have this public discussion very much.

[1:39:57] and otherwise, on everything I'll hide on them.

[1:40:00] If you get, you know, you can imagine like with, you know, the what's like that's in it here, right? We had how many people just in the stream in that room, and if we have our work sessions, that's what we have, persons that we heard for. That being said, if you have, like, yeah, 30 seconds to a minute, I'll do an informal person to be here.

[1:40:19] I think that's beautiful, I don't know, but I just, you know, I have two, I agree with you.

[1:40:25] Thirty seconds.

[1:40:27] And I went through my last six months and eighty percent of the people that have stamed with me are actually colour residents.

[1:40:35] There are people that have family, there's people that come to me regularly that are at the conservatory,

[1:40:42] their parents are there. I have a couple that are here right now that are moving from

[1:40:47] hazelnut to Calor and they have a six-week period in between houses and this thing

[1:40:52] that the people before that were people that had flooded their property and they needed a place

[1:41:00] that three months while they were, you know, well they had to be with this place from that own property

[1:41:06] and 80% of my people are actually Calor residents and it would be really a disorder that

[1:41:13] to make it too difficult. And I'm absolutely with you that there are

[1:41:17] community bad actors out there. And it would be a shame to jeopardize the

[1:41:22] recipe because of that. But because I never could get all my neighbors to

[1:41:28] write and write a letter. Okay, so I'm going to I'm going to a little bit of

[1:41:31] Sarah because the points will make you have colorized and it's staying there, you know,

[1:41:36] doing a good job. It's a policy. They don't come to her to policy.

[1:41:40] No, yeah, so thank you for sharing that and I'll just tell you this like from a public feedback perspective

[1:41:46] We're gonna have multiple bites of the apple

[1:41:50] Maybe have multiple more work sessions on it. I'm going to shake my head

[1:41:54] Charles can shake his head. Yes

[1:41:57] Yes, well

[1:41:58] Go back and watch the tape and my request is that go back and watch the tape from 2022 because all that information was published online as well

[1:42:04] And it was like what was it shin and like up here and you sharing mark my memory

[1:42:08] It was like an hour and a half discussion.

[1:42:11] So there's been a lot of people feedback and data available for council to consider.

[1:42:16] And it's good data.

[1:42:20] Sir?

[1:42:21] Yeah, I'm just saying that don't, yeah, the nice lady makes some great points, but no one's

[1:42:26] trying to shut that up.

[1:42:28] The suggestion is, if they're grandfathered, like for example,

[1:42:39] and follow the rules,

[1:42:45] what

[1:42:45] we don't want.

[1:42:50] So you already know that you can't go any places with taxes.

[1:42:56] So, you can don't go backwards, please.

[1:43:00] And don't want to shutting these down.

[1:43:01] What would you do?

[1:43:03] Follow the ordinances, pay your taxes.

[1:43:05] You'll be fine.

[1:43:06] Yeah.

[1:43:07] And I'll just say, at least three options to staff's credit

[1:43:10] and to the stakeholder credit, all of these,

[1:43:13] any one of the three is a step forward,

[1:43:16] not backwards.

[1:43:18] And so, because it's putting accountability

[1:43:21] into the system.

[1:43:23] So, it's a balancing act.

[1:43:24] To wrap it up though, you'll serve what she needs to move forward.

[1:43:29] Sounds like Shane knows that.

[1:43:31] It came more and more time to look at three.

[1:43:33] You were kind of between two and three.

[1:43:35] You were more or two.

[1:43:37] You were at three.

[1:43:39] I'm at three.

[1:43:40] I'm at two.

[1:43:41] You're at two.

[1:43:44] I don't need.

[1:43:51] No, he said.

[1:43:52] I don't know where we're at.

[1:43:53] What's leading right now?

[1:43:55] Two is.

[1:43:55] I don't know.

[1:43:57] It's leading.

[1:43:58] Three is leading.

[1:43:59] Sorry.

[1:44:02] You can make sense.

[1:44:06] My problem with two is it's honestly a back door ban.

[1:44:09] Like that's how it'll be hit.

[1:44:11] It's like, okay, you can do your STR,

[1:44:14] and tell me where I'm wrong, sir, and push back,

[1:44:16] I'm a mistake, something, because I don't want to mistake, something.

[1:44:19] But it's basically, okay, you can, you'll be grandfathered,

[1:44:24] but if you sell your property, it can bet you're done.

[1:44:28] It'll be the only thing I would point out

[1:44:30] is that when we say certain districts,

[1:44:33] So I'm fully old town and multi-family.

[1:44:37] So those desserts could continue to add STR if,

[1:44:41] you know, at the council discretion.

[1:44:44] And like I said, I've got three options up here

[1:44:46] for there's different ways of mixing match,

[1:44:47] the different components.

[1:44:49] So number two could look like STR is a lot of B-Write.

[1:44:52] They still have to register.

[1:44:53] They still have to follow all of the guys on it,

[1:44:55] but maybe they're allowed to buy right in old town,

[1:44:58] maybe in multi-family.

[1:44:59] Thank you.

[1:45:00] I don't know if we have another zoning district that if we make sense so well in my right. And then in the single family neighborhoods, they're grandfathered, but it's not a transferable.

[1:45:10] Which is, that's why I'm like, that's a base clear back door for the single family members.

[1:45:15] Okay, all right.

[1:45:16] I'm going to have a critical family.

[1:45:17] If the intent is for residential areas to be residences, then that makes sense to me.

[1:45:24] Yeah, we can get.

[1:45:27] Go watch the 2020.

[1:45:29] Where does that air? I was on P&Z at the time.

[1:45:31] Where is it?

[1:45:33] Yep.

[1:45:33] It's encoded by the high school.

[1:45:36] So the single family doesn't want to...

[1:45:37] Yeah, and I've never had a single complaint in my day.

[1:45:40] But they were so...

[1:45:42] I think what I would do, just so we can move things along, is...

[1:45:46] Calcimate, frankly, you've literally said,

[1:45:48] I'm for three.

[1:45:48] So long as we bring it back for a work session.

[1:45:50] Right, Calcimate?

[1:45:52] No, you didn't say that.

[1:45:53] Do you just want to back for a work session?

[1:45:54] So I will look at three, I'll write it up, and then bring it back for a work session is

[1:46:00] something like that's the consensus council, because I think that'll allow us to do a little

[1:46:04] bit deeper dive and look at some of the accountability, you know, some of the meat potatoes

[1:46:09] or regulations or the requirements, and then I actually think the requirements are probably

[1:46:17] more as important as the process.

[1:46:22] Yeah,

[1:46:28] but my hope would be that, sir would basically give us information and then that we'd show up to Council with feedback rather than we're going through the same presentation that makes sense.

[1:46:42] And then the base would be with red lineers and then it would go on.

[1:46:45] Yeah.

[1:46:46] Yeah.

[1:46:46] And we already have our...

[1:46:49] Yeah, exactly.

[1:46:50] Yeah.

[1:46:51] You're tracking right?

[1:46:51] Yes, sir.

[1:46:52] I just like to make sure we get it moving because it's been kicked down the road unintentionally for

[1:46:56] a long time.

[1:46:58] And we're taking a 1% of that apples and affecting the 99% of the people that are doing good.

[1:47:04] Including elders and people that are staying there.

[1:47:07] We're not affecting the people who are doing good.

[1:47:09] We have my regulations.

[1:47:12] Okay.

[1:47:12] It's always a perfect D2.

[1:47:18] Is that you good, Sarah, do you have everything you need?

[1:47:20] Yes, thank you.

[1:47:21] Thank you.

[1:47:22] Thanks everyone for their feedback.

[1:47:24] D2 discuss a vein support spark.

[1:47:26] These are agreements to include our high school across.

[1:47:29] This comes up on me out.

[1:47:31] I'm excited about this one generally.

[1:47:33] Bless you.

[1:47:34] Thank you.

[1:47:35] Thank you.

[1:47:37] All right.

[1:47:43] So tonight we're going to be...

[1:47:44] We've got to be in color by school across at the color SPART, so just a little background.

[1:47:49] The color of our school across team does fall under the color of the cross organization.

[1:47:55] So, I'm not necessarily going to need to amend and read the user agreement because they fall under it.

[1:48:00] It's more so we need to discuss and just get your thoughts on allowing them to use a pet bee.

[1:48:06] The Turfield software field for their practices again.

[1:48:10] So we're going to do a little history, and then we can discuss.

[1:48:13] So our current users are baseball cheer, football softball soccer, and Kelli LaCrosse at the sports park.

[1:48:23] Kelli High School across the mission of Kelli LaCrosse is to promote and grow the sport LaCrosse

[1:48:27] for the establishment of Oysteens for students from kindergarten through 12th grade, and the Kelli and the Pinnitus School District

[1:48:32] into their own areas.

[1:48:34] The high school team participates in the Texas High School LaCrosse League, and they are not a UIL sport though in Texas.

[1:48:42] Last year, from fall 25, to spring 26, they had 174 registrations and 145 families, 88%

[1:48:50] previously played on youth teams that went up to J.D. in varsity and said 5% of those attended

[1:48:57] K.L. high school.

[1:49:00] This is their team, so they have 11 to 14 teams total under the association, one varsity

[1:49:06] and one J.B.

[1:49:07] That's the high school level.

[1:49:11] The Keller LaCross season schedule.

[1:49:13] So they do practices in the fall.

[1:49:15] They start in the early September and in November.

[1:49:17] And then they play all their games in the spring,

[1:49:20] starting in mid January to early May.

[1:49:24] So this was their proposal.

[1:49:26] Be approved as scheduled practices in games on PEDB.

[1:49:29] Put temporary markings on PEDB,

[1:49:31] so they would need to make a circle

[1:49:34] and then a couple lines on the outside.

[1:49:36] Keller LaCross will pay for the additional markings.

[1:49:39] maintain the markings and pay to remove them at the end of the season. The temporary markings

[1:49:43] are only needed for games in the spring season. They don't require them for their practices

[1:49:47] in the fall. And the temporary markings do not damage or harm the turf field. They will have 14

[1:49:53] home-gave the embarrassing games during the spring season. We can't so only on Monday's and Wednesday's.

[1:50:07] So, the city council action will be to designate be padded as a shared use bill for the Keller Socrates Association and the Kelley LaCross Association. This will allow both associations to schedule the bill in advance, coordinate regular schedules to minimize conflicts and LaCross would primarily use on non-soccer game days.

[1:50:27] So typically KSA plays on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturdays, they are only watching Mondays and Wednesdays.

[1:50:35] So the cross line with Mondays and Wednesdays?

[1:50:38] So KSA right now they have a clinic on Wednesdays and September. Historically, I went back this past year, KSA has only rented pad B in the spring twice.

[1:50:49] They're whole season. It was towards the end for make a game and then one last fall at the end of the season as well

[1:50:56] So they really they typically don't use be pad on Mondays or Wednesdays historically

[1:51:04] They have reached out to us since it that they would like to add some practices

[1:51:09] But they also can play on other fields outside of Pegey high school across

[1:51:15] board gates specifically, they can only play on turf, be it, because of the association that they're under, they can only play on turf fields.

[1:51:22] So that's why they've been traveling to Fort Worth and other associations, because the turf issues, they've never been able to play home.

[1:51:33] That's what they're requested. They would like to come home and have games here.

[1:51:36] Some questions, some markings, because I'm not a soccer player, or a cross player, so that the markings, they're the same markings, because when you got that quick a turn around of days, you don't put down marks and take them up in the next scene comes and puts their own marks on a few other things.

[1:51:55] It's just an additional circle at the key in front of the goals, and it's going to be in a different color.

[1:52:00] and we did send that to Keller's Locker Association

[1:52:02] and ask them, do you see any issue with this?

[1:52:05] We'll just cause any issue with gang.

[1:52:07] We'll just leave it there.

[1:52:08] Correct.

[1:52:09] It would stay for the spring season.

[1:52:10] So they would pay to install it at the beginning of the season

[1:52:13] and then they would clean it up at the end of their season.

[1:52:16] So they would be gone from May until January of the next year.

[1:52:19] What is the claim of process as a tape or as a tape?

[1:52:23] It is paint, but it is the clean up

[1:52:25] so they reach out to the turf company

[1:52:27] that actually installed it and talked with them

[1:52:29] have about temporary markings and they have it all planned out and assure that it would be easy clean up and there would be no danger of permanent issues with it.

[1:52:39] And we can even, like, give them feedback on the colors like sometimes the markings.

[1:52:44] This is a good question.

[1:52:45] Some markings on the field could be pretty confusing to you.

[1:52:48] Try playing in a sports club point right now.

[1:52:51] It's not an event actually, but there's some places where it can get free drop.

[1:52:55] I actually did a basketball, coach of basketball at any point, the referee sitting with

[1:52:59] other adults.

[1:53:00] That's well.

[1:53:01] So, they proposed as maybe a blue to kind of go with the color-high school colors.

[1:53:05] Yeah.

[1:53:06] And KSA was signed with that.

[1:53:08] They approved that.

[1:53:09] So, staff was seeking the City Council discussion and concepts as no formal action is required.

[1:53:14] So, we're just here, do you agree or do you agree or do you agree with it?

[1:53:17] So, you said practices in-game games.

[1:53:19] So, practices are in the fall, Monday's and Wednesday's, and then games are in the spring,

[1:53:24] Monday's and Wednesday's.

[1:53:24] Why would they use their field for practice?

[1:53:27] They can.

[1:53:29] They just would like to practice on the turf

[1:53:30] just to be able to practice on the field

[1:53:33] that they would play their games on.

[1:53:35] But the youth across does play on the lacrosse fields.

[1:53:38] This is specifically just the high school team.

[1:53:41] Yeah, so when they came to a server,

[1:53:44] they were only asked if they only mentioned games.

[1:53:46] Did they follow up with the practice requests

[1:53:48] to basically play?

[1:53:49] They did.

[1:53:50] Yeah, I mean, I don't think they thought about the practices

[1:53:53] They're, you know, homey fractures that they'll look at for a week.

[1:53:56] Two, Mondays and Wednesdays.

[1:53:58] And that would be something we would charge the people.

[1:54:02] The turf-fiso we would get revenue from the practices in the fall.

[1:54:06] What time?

[1:54:07] They want to practice five to eight p.m.

[1:54:09] Three hours on holidays and on the same.

[1:54:12] So,

[1:54:15] it's probably J.B.

[1:54:16] than varsity or bad.

[1:54:18] Yeah.

[1:54:19] Were they practicing now?

[1:54:22] Right now, I'm not sure.

[1:54:23] They use the cross feel right there.

[1:54:26] They use does up until high school, so K through 8th grade.

[1:54:30] You use the cross feel the cross feel the cross that I love.

[1:54:33] So lacrosse is a group to be played on, lacrosse, and head B.

[1:54:37] So that is a designated sport that is allowed on inter.

[1:54:41] Yeah.

[1:54:41] The practice field is real practice.

[1:54:43] So the lacrosse field is grass.

[1:54:47] So they want to be able to practice on the turf because it's going to be different.

[1:54:54] It's just a lot of across, or because in the idea of three days a week, it is a lot.

[1:54:58] It would be too many things.

[1:55:00] So, today is a week last. Games aren't until the spring Mondays in Wednesday. So, there are only days, year-round, fall, it's spring or Mondays in Wednesdays.

[1:55:08] So, there we have one. So, during the season they have one game and then one practice.

[1:55:13] They only do practices in the fall. So, Mondays in Wednesday, their practice, they practice for a whole season and then they play games for a whole season.

[1:55:19] They don't practice during the season.

[1:55:21] Maybe on Mondays, but that's their strategic schedule. They don't have any games in the fall.

[1:55:27] I'm okay with a lot of it.

[1:55:30] I know we're still working on our tournament policy,

[1:55:33] but a hate for a tournament that bring in a lot of business to our city,

[1:55:37] the health because of an all-season practice.

[1:55:41] So however we've managed that, deferring to you.

[1:55:44] I don't foresee a lot of tournaments coming during the weekday.

[1:55:48] That's the only reason that I'm kind of leaning okay

[1:55:51] because it's a Monday, Wednesday, and tournaments are typically going to be a Friday,

[1:55:56] They're looking at two games a week as well.

[1:55:58] 14 games total.

[1:56:00] So I would assume that their schedule would be a practice on a Monday and a game on a

[1:56:03] Monday's day.

[1:56:04] They didn't specify that, but that's going to be set for such a thing.

[1:56:08] All right.

[1:56:08] OK.

[1:56:09] But they don't have in-games in the fall.

[1:56:11] I do know that for a certain time.

[1:56:12] I was off for them having their games there.

[1:56:14] I'm pretty humble.

[1:56:16] Still not.

[1:56:16] So practice is making me kind of comfortable.

[1:56:19] Because that's all that that's five to eight p.m.

[1:56:21] on to the most prime days a week like that eats up a lot of time that's other

[1:56:27] more substantial advice. So I'm personally good with the games. What do you

[1:56:33] guys think? I mean am I overthinking it? Despite the mayor.

[1:56:40] Okay. Okay, nothing is

[1:56:41] just interesting that they practice the fall and they play at the spring because you

[1:56:45] need your practicing when you're playing. And they're asking for something that

[1:56:50] the proposal is for more than what they asked for correct so the initial

[1:56:55] conversation was to have games right Jordan I'm not much remember it's

[1:56:59] I was only here for like a brief 10-15 minutes they they're initial they just

[1:57:03] want to come home to Keller and they wanted to be able to they mostly they were

[1:57:07] really buying towards games for sure bringing back and then if they can also

[1:57:11] do practices that would be the chair going up so so they don't go to any practices

[1:57:16] I think that's the only place I can get.

[1:57:30] Can we just say, I mean, unless he's trying to do, do we know if you're trying to do two games a week?

[1:57:36] Because if he first thing, I would just say, yeah, we'll try one day a week.

[1:57:40] That's what I would say.

[1:57:41] But I don't want to screw up their game schedule.

[1:57:44] Yeah, or the soccer schedule. So I think one day week is probably fine, so they can schedule out their games that way

[1:57:50] There should be enough time in

[1:57:52] 5-14 games to do that

[1:57:55] We can be more flexible in the games. I don't think any of it is anyone opposed that having games on soccer padby

[1:58:04] So I think the games are yes, and then as far as practice and the fall

[1:58:09] Shining your thoughts on there you're more of a

[1:58:13] Soccer

[1:58:13] We just, yeah, that means soccer is a lot more well during that time and again, I know tournaments are during midweek, but there's practices and they do have some not many, some tournaments, only at one midweek.

[1:58:27] I just, I'm just getting late, my brain is been a long day, but I defer to you.

[1:58:33] I like the mayor's point, and we can start a song, maybe expand it.

[1:58:36] Especially if we see how you usage, I mean we just opened all this up this year and we're still getting as

[1:58:44] Teflon brinses look data on this so I'd maybe start slow and build it up. It's all like the major side did still

[1:58:52] Games yeah, and then work up there if we have availability for practice. I'm having a full data on

[1:58:57] VP had VP had is relatively a

[1:58:59] Low-Rentid field just because it is turf and it is it does cost more so when people are renting it's

[1:59:07] For the, they can already go and rent the practice space.

[1:59:13] They can, they just can't, to a distance.

[1:59:16] Yeah, I think that's perfectly fine against you because unless I'm misunderstanding something,

[1:59:21] but they can't do that with games.

[1:59:22] Like, you have to have structure for games.

[1:59:24] So that's what I would say.

[1:59:25] I mean, yes, for practices you can do it.

[1:59:28] But use the current reservations system so that way, you don't have to get in that back and forth.

[1:59:32] and also it gives them the ability of the field's open.

[1:59:35] And then games, we just give them the real light.

[1:59:37] Yeah.

[1:59:37] We're doing that just in case we have competition of the things.

[1:59:41] Yeah, there's a lot of problems.

[1:59:43] The field and the small.

[1:59:44] Yeah, and we're going to check the KSA's really trying to grow select, select, and

[1:59:49] stalker with that KSA's gone down.

[1:59:51] And then there's other leagues that want to use those focus on there's a discussion.

[1:59:56] Yeah, I won't go there.

[1:59:57] But yes, but they already have the right to their point.

[1:59:59] I'm going to do it.

[2:00:00] But now, just like any other resident.

[2:00:02] So.

[2:00:03] And honestly, I think if I think of a day, you think it's okay and it's not going to cause major congestion.

[2:00:07] I think council trusts you to monitor the issue. So if you decide to help on more practices, I think we're okay with that.

[2:00:14] But to me, the cleanest way is just a lot of the use of current process for practices and green light the games.

[2:00:19] And it's a mom for a killer lacrosse. Just texted, said games, you're two decent parties.

[2:00:26] For a high school?

[2:00:29] It's a junior this year, so.

[2:00:34] We are presenting Monday's someone's day though.

[2:00:35] It'll be fine. I think the game will be fine.

[2:00:37] Yeah, yes.

[2:00:38] We have their schedule already, they gave us our approval to hear this get done.

[2:00:41] Yeah, it could have been changed.

[2:00:43] Wait, no, the usual.

[2:00:44] We'll do it.

[2:00:46] Probably actually, yeah, probably we'll run this discussion.

[2:00:49] So, if I give you the feedback, you need yes on games, yes on prep.

[2:00:52] You know, yes on prep, just however, use the current process.

[2:00:56] Thank you.

[2:00:57] Awesome.

[2:00:57] Thank you.

[2:00:58] All right, D3, you know, local Greenland South Lake,

[2:01:00] related to the ultimate of waterline, rehabilitation,

[2:01:10] and just counsel for number five.

[2:01:13] It's literally going to be, do you have questions about the economic development update?

[2:01:17] Because we are here to receive that report, so I don't be here to answer questions, don't think

[2:01:22] we're going to go through a, you know, unless you have, for me, that's where the questions

[2:01:26] I should tell them should be relatively quick.

[2:01:28] So,

[2:01:31] let's see that one now, I actually, do you guys have questions in the economic development

[2:01:35] update?

[2:01:36] No.

[2:01:37] It was even, you guys have questions.

[2:01:41] The only thing I would like to say, not send this to Aaron today is if you didn't, there's some stuff that comes to color that doesn't.

[2:01:48] They need all the criteria we never did, correct?

[2:01:51] Perma once.

[2:01:53] Is there any way we can, if somebody asked me in town, and I'm supposed to be Mr. Council.

[2:02:01] And there's a little business or something that has come here, and I don't have a clue about it.

[2:02:05] Is there any way we can get a list of those that are flying through to do everything you ask them to do?

[2:02:11] You should be getting that in your report.

[2:02:15] Would you point it out to me?

[2:02:16] To see us.

[2:02:17] Does it are that way?

[2:02:18] Yes.

[2:02:19] That's what I'm saying.

[2:02:19] Good question.

[2:02:22] Good.

[2:02:22] Thank you.

[2:02:23] Yeah.

[2:02:24] Because they have to get that for someone who can physically go in there.

[2:02:27] That's the good.

[2:02:28] That's the good.

[2:02:28] Oh, my camera's there.

[2:02:29] That's the best.

[2:02:30] That's the best one I've ever seen.

[2:02:31] Oh, my camera's there.

[2:02:34] I'm still out there.

[2:02:36] Okay, because I looked a good.

[2:02:37] First watch of this.

[2:02:38] I'm excited about that mural.

[2:02:40] Yeah, that's a big one.

[2:02:42] You're just so excited about what?

[2:02:44] The mural?

[2:02:45] Not a little bit of a calendarster.

[2:02:46] No, no, but it's in the...

[2:02:47] It's in the...

[2:02:48] Art of Regents being here.

[2:02:51] Yeah, so you sent that out today.

[2:02:53] I was on Friday for...

[2:02:55] Yeah, it was a last day in my life.

[2:02:57] I was from New York, on June 6th.

[2:02:58] Oh, can you put me in a deal with the girls in the hallway or not yet?

[2:03:00] They are still working on that, but we will bring it to you before.

[2:03:06] We will call it, I think, but good counsel is getting in.

[2:03:08] It's a more colorful, good stuff.

[2:03:10] It's true.

[2:03:11] We community it that way.

[2:03:13] And if they can put a statue of a tree.

[2:03:15] Statue of a tree.

[2:03:16] We help it.

[2:03:19] What the hell is that?

[2:03:21] It's a game that there's a deal.

[2:03:23] It's a right game that I can tell.

[2:03:25] Better Scott and wife.

[2:03:26] You know, right across the river.

[2:03:29] Yeah.

[2:03:29] So the idea, so Shane and I met with Regency, we said, what can we do activate the space?

[2:03:35] Let's start and they were all about it.

[2:03:38] And so one of the follow-through items is to do them your own.

[2:03:42] So should we be pretty exciting?

[2:03:43] Should we?

[2:03:43] So we're planning where this mural is, I'm trying to picture.

[2:03:46] It's not there.

[2:03:47] You know, they're right behind the Baylor's cotton wipe.

[2:03:49] We have center that just keeps through, believe in bay.

[2:03:52] If you look behind their space, there's all that thesis so how?

[2:03:58] Okay, and it's that all right, just a blank wall right here, and so it's based we can do stuff with it in the future the mayor's point

[2:04:06] They were actually really

[2:04:08] Excited, I think we were they were excited to work with us to do some regency stuff there

[2:04:14] Full English, that's pretty cool. I'm gonna mural the statue here or play ground something in water tower

[2:04:18] Thank you Jordan

[2:04:20] Yeah, all right

[2:04:24] I'm going to show you what the water is.

[2:04:26] Any other questions for Anna?

[2:04:31] Yeah.

[2:04:32] Thank you.

[2:04:32] I don't know if that allows you to get out of here earlier.

[2:04:34] But that was the reason for getting to pee.

[2:04:38] All right.

[2:04:41] And kind of moving ahead.

[2:04:43] We're going to, here in I talk, we'll restructure reformat some of the staff reports.

[2:04:47] So they're going to have a look and feel a little bit more like that.

[2:04:50] So it's going to be a little bit of a mindset shift,

[2:04:52] at least for me.

[2:04:54] And for some of us to read the information,

[2:04:57] and come prepared for questions,

[2:04:58] so we'll start clicking through staff reports.

[2:05:00] And then we'll probably have a few more substantive reports on a maybe like a quarterly basis, or on a has any basis from some other folks in other departments.

[2:05:10] So. All right, D3 in a local agreement with South Lake.

[2:05:16] It's been a long time coming, I'll get to the timeline here a little bit, but fish

[2:05:21] legs to the altivist water line, for those that don't know, the altivist water line runs

[2:05:31] from the east family, actually, from the altivist above station in Fort Worth, stretches

[2:05:36] linked to the city and then connects to South Lake, so it is one of our main water lines

[2:05:41] that we have

[2:05:45] to have a five mile line, it's actually located almost all over the

[2:05:49] color, however, is a shared line with South Lake. So it is both our water line supply line

[2:05:56] and their water supply line. So it's the South Lake border. There's a meter there to determine

[2:06:00] how much water goes out to me to South Lake. In the ancient, we had a current and you're

[2:06:05] local with them where they actually take care of the repairs. If there's anything that happens

[2:06:09] to that.

[2:06:11] And artists became important as we get related to the grants that we've been awarded.

[2:06:17] But all in all, this is a combination of other 30-inch and 36-inch concrete pipe.

[2:06:22] It's about 40 years old.

[2:06:24] It's sort of almost 80,000 residents, which are in the Keller and South Lake, and then in the

[2:06:29] past about five years, we've had some repairs to it, about 1.5 million in total.

[2:06:35] It's definitely got the luxury of dealing with that.

[2:06:38] So we recognize the line is getting to the end of life.

[2:06:41] I've said by the nature of it, it's critical for our needs.

[2:06:44] Just for water.

[2:06:46] And as such, we have been applying for federal grants

[2:06:50] beginning on the way in FYI 2340, FYI 24 appropriations

[2:06:54] back then.

[2:06:56] And we've successfully applied a year for 15 million

[2:07:01] from the federal with a 50, 25, 25 match.

[2:07:05] and actually made a total for 30 million each year.

[2:07:09] We were awarded the FY24 appropriations of 750,000.

[2:07:15] We've gone through the EPA process for that

[2:07:17] and finally actually have been green light

[2:07:18] to actually spend those funds.

[2:07:21] It has been from FY23, so about April of 23 to now

[2:07:25] to finally get that green light.

[2:07:27] It does come with a, like I said, a 50, 25, 25 maps.

[2:07:31] And we have 750 federal funds.

[2:07:33] the city will contribute to half of that exactly as well.

[2:07:38] We were not awarded anything as part of the 25 appropriation.

[2:07:42] That's the 26 appropriation we were awarded another million dollars.

[2:07:46] Again, a 50-50 match, so we will be on the hook for 500,000,

[2:07:50] and it's applicable to be on the hook for another 500,000.

[2:07:54] We are in the process of having these two grants combined.

[2:07:57] So that's one of the things with the EBA, so that we can use those as one and basically 50-50.

[2:08:02] So I thought C. Keller was a, what did we do? I can't remember. It's been a year, at least.

[2:08:10] We do a joint application of South Lake, or why the C. Keller was awarded.

[2:08:14] Initially, we were doing as a joint, and then it's the same application.

[2:08:21] So, of course, Keller wins the award, because it is our line.

[2:08:25] South Lake will give a letter of support for that application so in the 50 50 out of that work

[2:08:32] It's ordination of South Lake because we were awarded 1.75 correct and then they will we will match 25% and

[2:08:40] South Lake will match 25%. That's what makes the 50 go. Oh, oh, okay. Got it. So we're actually

[2:08:47] Karen 75% of the bill

[2:08:51] Yeah, we did the work to secure it.

[2:08:54] Yeah, we did.

[2:08:55] All right.

[2:08:56] Got it.

[2:08:57] Well, that actually becomes important, though,

[2:09:00] and what the proposal I laid would look like.

[2:09:05] So in the draft that is should be in your packet at this time,

[2:09:11] kind of continuing with the focus that we have related to the maintenance idea,

[2:09:17] We've been awarded $1.75 total, about $3.2 million that's been awarded, between awarded

[2:09:26] and match.

[2:09:27] So, at $3.2 is available.

[2:09:31] Southflake would handle the design engineering, the RFQ, all of the work to handle the design

[2:09:36] engineering of this, so they would deal with the federal compliance, they would pay the

[2:09:40] vendor, they would be the ones that handle the day-to-day operations of this, color would

[2:09:46] manage the grant.

[2:09:47] So we would be the ones working with DPA when things didn't be submitted and we would receive the funding and then apply both our funding in the match the the color funding

[2:09:57] So all right the grant and the match will provide

[2:10:00] I don't want to stop like before their side.

[2:10:02] I mean, I don't know where it is, a lot of the concerns we had earlier on.

[2:10:05] And if it were a pair of the pipe or a place to pipe?

[2:10:08] This is right now, it is on an inch.

[2:10:10] Design and engineering.

[2:10:11] Design and engineering.

[2:10:12] In a part of it.

[2:10:13] It is a part of it.

[2:10:14] It is a part of it.

[2:10:15] It is a part of it.

[2:10:16] Theoretical designs right now would have it.

[2:10:18] We could actually put a pipe within a pipe.

[2:10:20] In a tunnel.

[2:10:21] And so, right now it's a concrete pipe.

[2:10:23] We replace with the plastic.

[2:10:25] And that's where the expert over here can be.

[2:10:27] The more technical terms.

[2:10:28] They're, they're dimeter than that.

[2:10:30] Yeah.

[2:10:31] Yeah.

[2:10:31] Different material, like the KKK has a psychopath and it doesn't see it's different material.

[2:10:35] But our blood is not free.

[2:10:36] The mosthypes of PVC, it's slicker.

[2:10:41] I don't care if they are.

[2:10:42] It's the last friction, so you're able to.

[2:10:45] Potion, the pipe, the whole time.

[2:10:48] Or is it incremental?

[2:10:50] Or you have to actually, at least how.

[2:10:51] There will be, what's, what's the, the laying camp there out now, based on cost friction,

[2:10:55] that's a fusible PVC, and then it would be literally pulled through the existing, existing

[2:11:02] pipe.

[2:11:03] And so, that's the other thing.

[2:11:05] I'm positive too, it's less obstructed, because most of this pipe is a longer pavement.

[2:11:11] But the extraceous, but it's very popular over here.

[2:11:16] The trenchless technology that would be there, so it's a lot.

[2:11:20] But we would have the entire road clung.

[2:11:22] Oh, we have long, fairly extended period times.

[2:11:25] So it's a long need for ourselves.

[2:11:26] So it's a real tight finish that they can make it into a thermal fuel and it's true.

[2:11:30] It's true.

[2:11:31] What's the lifespan on the new material?

[2:11:33] It will be like 40 years, like it will be long.

[2:11:35] Yeah longer than that.

[2:11:36] I don't know the exact number, but it's more important for you.

[2:11:42] It's a real cool process.

[2:11:43] So we don't have to worry about these lines on the stuff anymore.

[2:11:45] They take care of that.

[2:11:46] So that opens.

[2:11:48] There's a steeper.

[2:11:49] Anyone who thinks it puts us in a better spot for our requested.

[2:11:52] We've gotten the design and engineering going.

[2:11:55] Trying to get the totality would, because it's like, if I'm evaluating an appropriation, I'd be more likely to find it at the airport.

[2:12:03] You're generally looking for a shuttle seat.

[2:12:06] And we made it clear that we want to be careful when we switch to the construction phase,

[2:12:12] that the federal requirements to come with a construction, that we don't end up spending more to comply with those in the funds we receive.

[2:12:20] And so, if we're going to get construction costs, we really want to see that towards construction.

[2:12:26] That's also why I will be applied as part of F1-1-6.

[2:12:28] We also provided the alternative of really looking funding for some drainage and sidewalk improvements on melody.

[2:12:35] And start looking at some other alternative projects that also are getting that high priority.

[2:12:40] But if we're going to be kind of fine with that smaller grant funding, there's a detriment.

[2:12:45] There's additional costs with federal, we need to federal ties on that.

[2:12:49] So what are you looking for from us?

[2:12:52] It's a great question.

[2:12:54] Make sure you want to continue with the grant for the project.

[2:12:57] You want us to read the ILO focus.

[2:13:00] ILA forward with South Lake.

[2:13:02] So we'd see that on this September 15th meeting.

[2:13:05] And then just kind of the recognition of this.

[2:13:07] Because you're doing design and engineering and improve that project and that scope,

[2:13:11] we need to plan for the potential that issue and so that project in our future.

[2:13:14] So, and that's something that we do have in the five year CIP is a general idea of water water, water and waste water line replacements.

[2:13:24] Not necessarily here marked as altivist, but we do have some capacities working towards that long term.

[2:13:29] So, just kind of a recognition, this does have a ripple effect, if we get a design engineering, we like, we want to cut, you know, use that design engineering, you know,

[2:13:38] So it's just a short amount of times of the design isn't going to go away.

[2:13:44] So it's the next, so the next thing is to be the air local district.

[2:13:48] Okay.

[2:13:48] I mean it's capacity for the debt should get issued.

[2:13:50] It's in the general fund.

[2:13:51] You can't really look at this.

[2:13:52] Why do we start a family? Why do we start a family? Why do we start our life?

[2:13:54] Yeah, this is what we want to waste what I do.

[2:13:57] Let's get more credit.

[2:13:58] This will be more credit.

[2:14:00] Then again, we will be getting a put-in for appropriations.

[2:14:02] Okay.

[2:14:03] So we've got millions from federal government teleposset,

[2:14:06] That's the other taxpayers, for those of us.

[2:14:14] Okay, I mean unless it doesn't have any concerns about moving forward with just the

[2:14:19] design of engineering.

[2:14:21] I mean, I don't because if we don't like it, we do the design of engineering, we don't like

[2:14:27] it all then the planes go on the shelf and 800 or so is about $1,000 just a big commitment.

[2:14:33] So, once we take that first step, but it's not like you're not all the way yet, you're not at 15 or 20 million dollars in the project.

[2:14:41] So, if something significant changes, but at the end of the day, the water line has to be repaired.

[2:14:46] It's not exciting, it's not above ground, it's not going to.

[2:14:49] As long as Ronnie's sharp pressure still works out right, we should be right around it.

[2:14:55] It's still 40 more amands, so.

[2:14:58] But not seriously.

[2:14:58] It's a hill.

[2:14:59] Thank you.

[2:15:00] I think you're repair. You're right. Yeah, it is a replacement. So, I mean, this is a big deal. Yeah, you're right. Don't miss your marriage. It's not exciting, but when you turn on your faucet and water doesn't come out, you know, that's basically failure of government. It's basic level. So, yeah.

[2:15:19] It was a core structure.

[2:15:23] Yeah.

[2:15:24] So when did we get the green light from kind of get this project moving along?

[2:15:30] From the EPA?

[2:15:32] Yeah.

[2:15:32] We were earlier this year.

[2:15:34] Now we're talking together.

[2:15:36] We've been working with them since awarded, which is not two years ago to finally get all the ducks

[2:15:44] around. The nice thing is the merger of the two, I believe it's supposed to go a little faster

[2:15:49] and so we'll get that going, but we also need the ILA going, so we start the process

[2:15:54] to design energy. Okay, hopefully securing another 1.7 million dollars, that helps both cities

[2:16:01] self-just continued work if they're good neighbor and softly.

[2:16:05] Yes, sir. All right, thank you.

[2:16:07] Good update.

[2:16:08] Good update.

[2:16:09] Good update.

[2:16:10] It is.

[2:16:11] It is.

[2:16:14] Do you forward?

[2:16:18] Sorry, sir.

[2:16:19] I should have pardoned before and after your SCR update.

[2:16:22] So that we could punch out of here.

[2:16:25] Next time, like Bill, I'll cancel out.

[2:16:26] I mean, say, hey, I'm going to be default.

[2:16:31] So this is not a presentation.

[2:16:33] and this is something we've talked about at the Stricate Accession to show the way.

[2:16:44] To show you a couple of things,

[2:16:53] one new, the other is a refresh for some of the council,

[2:16:56] but worth going in and going through both, both we talked about at the Stricate Accession.

[2:17:01] So this is executive and sites.

[2:17:04] This is metrics that is coming directly out of our permitting and planar use system that we

[2:17:09] started in 2024. Tomorrow morning, you'll all get an email with a login, so you can go in and

[2:17:16] look kind of a city leadership at the metrics that we have. So I don't want to go through

[2:17:21] every single feature on here, I know it's late. So I hope you'll all get an airplane around

[2:17:26] with it. You have questions or fun things that are wrong or confusing, please let me know.

[2:17:31] We've really just started using this internally in the last couple of months, so we're still

[2:17:39] to pretty much whatever you want. We started this system, like I said, in summer of 2024,

[2:17:45] I will tell you that there's some not-so-great data. In fact, in 2024, when it's really almost

[2:17:50] like training data, when we first started running things with a system, and learning how to use it,

[2:17:55] but as you get closer to present days, it's better and better and more accurate.

[2:18:00] Look at what we're doing, how long things are getting to this system.

[2:18:03] You can also call this system. Executive inside. Executive, or you say that.

[2:18:07] And so, like I said, it's directly linked to the system that staff from building services,

[2:18:13] planning, fire, public works, probably a few other things we're getting now used to review

[2:18:19] pretty much all types of permits and plans, plans or things like site plans, zoning applications,

[2:18:25] SDEs, UDC variants, sign exceptions, all of that stuff is running through here.

[2:18:29] There are some fire permits that are done through a separate system for them, but pretty much everything

[2:18:34] else is going through the related system, which is enterprise, permitting, and licensing.

[2:18:42] So you can adjust the dates to whatever you want to see, although we don't, you know,

[2:18:47] just a sweet, poor, less couple of days back to, you know, year, year and half.

[2:18:52] You can also set up a comparison period.

[2:18:54] I think this will be more interesting as we go farther in with the data.

[2:18:59] We can kind of see, and if you scroll down to the metrics, you can see.

[2:19:03] So this is showing average dates from application to issuance for permits.

[2:19:08] So right now we're at eight days, which is now about 31% from the same period last year.

[2:19:15] So you can definitely geek out with some of the metrics.

[2:19:18] You can drill into pretty much anything that you want.

[2:19:23] I will tell you this system is really for high level percentages and review times and things like that.

[2:19:30] If you're wanting specific information about a particular permit, you can probably get to it

[2:19:35] eventually here, but it's not going to have this much review data.

[2:19:38] That's what's in the second system I'm going to show you here in a moment.

[2:19:41] So if you're wanting to see the actual building permit issues for a property, this is not the

[2:19:46] system for it.

[2:19:47] This is really, again, your high-level metric.

[2:19:50] So just looking at some of this stuff that you can see average dates from application

[2:19:54] to issue it's permit day, permit to issue it was in 30 days.

[2:20:00] We're at 90 percent fruit for those average delay in inspection start time. We want to see that as zero because we almost want to see inspection is getting settled basically as soon as we possibly can for all types of inspections.

[2:20:18] applications received, so in that timeframe January until today, we're at just over 2700 permits.

[2:20:27] average time open, this is for a code cases event, and this is one of our feature requests to Tyler,

[2:20:35] that the company that makes the software is like this to be a little bit more descriptive.

[2:20:39] Sometimes you have to scroll into this to see what it is, so this is describing code cases,

[2:20:44] So for environmental health, the case is open average of 23 days,

[2:20:50] COVID enforcement here in 18 days.

[2:20:56] So like I said, quite a bit of information here.

[2:21:00] So this year we've done almost 6800 infections.

[2:21:04] And again, this is across a lot of different departments.

[2:21:07] It's not just our building inspector, definitely not just our internal folks.

[2:21:12] It also includes, you know, our third party folks that are running their inspections to this is some of

[2:21:21] them.

[2:21:22] Like I said, I'm not going to spend a ton of time going getting out too much, which is what I would encourage you to get in there play with it.

[2:21:30] Drill down and if you have questions or find it, she will definitely let me know.

[2:21:34] Would you set the solicitor a link or something?

[2:21:36] Yes, so you'll get an email from, I don't know if it'll come from, you know, it should have my name in it.

[2:21:42] It'll say sariansly, hasn't by the use to exhibit

[2:21:44] the inside city of Calder.

[2:21:46] And then I think you'll have to go in and set up an account

[2:21:48] because it's not just open right now.

[2:21:51] It's set up where you're going to have an invite

[2:21:52] to get to this.

[2:21:53] Oh, this is like, does this have the ability to click somewhere

[2:22:00] and export to like a CSVL or?

[2:22:06] And I please let me know if there's a feature

[2:22:09] that you're like, I want to be able to do this to my can.

[2:22:13] Sometimes, like right now, I'm viewing it as Aaron, and I just picked him because he has the same permission, basically, as a council, because mine is a little bit overwhelming, and so it may be something that I don't realize that you guys don't have access to and we'll get a fix or figure out whatever we need to do.

[2:22:32] And when Tread does all his stuff, you'll be able to use those CSVs that Greg was asked her about,

[2:22:37] over the days.

[2:22:39] Yeah, Greg.

[2:22:40] Yeah.

[2:22:40] This is great.

[2:22:43] So then the other thing I wanted to show you, this was something else we talked about at this strategic session.

[2:22:48] Also linked to our permit review and plan system is citizens of service.

[2:22:54] So this is the public basis.

[2:22:56] by anybody anywhere, or the access to the site,

[2:23:01] you could do a lot of things here, even without creating

[2:23:04] an account.

[2:23:05] If you actually want to apply for a permit,

[2:23:06] or schedule an inspection, you do have to have an account.

[2:23:09] But we have pointed a lot of residents

[2:23:11] that are just interested in once their neighbors are doing next.

[2:23:15] So to this site, and they really like it.

[2:23:18] Including some of our residents that are known to call us

[2:23:21] quite a bit about what their neighbors are doing,

[2:23:23] they're really like this site.

[2:23:24] So you can get to a couple of different ways.

[2:23:29] You don't have to take care of it.

[2:23:31] No, no, no, take care of it.

[2:23:32] Right here.

[2:23:33] I don't know.

[2:23:35] So I think there is no use this side.

[2:23:38] I don't know.

[2:23:38] No, no.

[2:23:42] The URL is really simple.

[2:23:43] It's cityofkiller.com.

[2:23:44] Slap CSS, but there's a whole bunch of different ways you can get to it.

[2:23:48] The simplest way is I want to do a platform permit on this main page of the city website.

[2:23:54] But if you drill into any of the community development buildings services,

[2:23:58] you can get back here.

[2:24:01] So, take you here.

[2:24:02] How do you get there?

[2:24:03] You go to the apply for a permit page.

[2:24:05] You can go, yeah, you can, that's kind of that.

[2:24:08] The least clicks I would say.

[2:24:11] You can also go to a apply for a permit or the building.

[2:24:15] What happens when you put that?

[2:24:19] I think I have to take you to a page.

[2:24:22] And then there's a few other places where it's,

[2:24:26] I think it's a metinemic community about on that side, so.

[2:24:31] So going through this page, obviously, you can use it to apply this is where you would need

[2:24:35] to log in our register if you're a contractor, a homeowner, whatever one to make it application

[2:24:42] or pay for an invoice to this is where the vast majority of our permit fees are being paid

[2:24:46] now.

[2:24:48] We don't have a lot of in-person payments, we don't have any people bringing in checks or

[2:24:51] you can request your inspections. Report violations. This is only to ask those.

[2:25:00] And in a while back, and then a few features very quickly that I was going to show you, citizen, connect, that takes you to a map of the city. You can put in an address that's going to prompt you, if you've got something correct. And then over here, you can toggle the ranges however you want to.

[2:25:29] You can also download data from here.

[2:25:32] I would not recommend doing that without selecting something,

[2:25:34] so it's going to get a ton.

[2:25:36] But one of the things people really like to know is,

[2:25:38] is there an act of code case?

[2:25:41] Code case.

[2:25:42] Yeah, so we put in our address of 508.

[2:25:46] Katie, you can click.

[2:25:47] Code cases.

[2:25:49] And then it's going to ask you, do you want environment already?

[2:25:51] What code enforcement?

[2:25:52] You probably want code enforcement.

[2:25:54] And then it's going to show you where you've had some of the code

[2:25:58] It's around you and as you scroll in, you can see more specifically where those are at.

[2:26:04] You can create an alert based on the end, and I'm going very fast, but please, if you have questions, let us know.

[2:26:10] But if you can create an alert with the buffer, you set up so that it's going to email you if there's any activity within that one person.

[2:26:16] So I could literally set up an alert to a monitor, and it's house.

[2:26:19] I can email me if it's grass, so I can send the code of course, and if it's always correct.

[2:26:23] Yeah.

[2:26:23] really hate Togra. It's a nice design. Can you complain that right? Yeah. And you can

[2:26:28] set that up for permits or plans or other things, would it be that you want to talk about?

[2:26:34] Keep that up, how should you spend it? This is really cool, man. Yeah. So it'll eliminate

[2:26:40] so like I know I've text messages to you. Like, okay, well, it's the status of this property.

[2:26:45] Not that much, but I have a couple of times. But I can just go in here and look.

[2:26:50] And it's still perfectly fine to hang out with you.

[2:26:54] Yeah, but it's like I think it's an efficiency thing, right?

[2:26:57] It makes self-service sense.

[2:26:59] Self-service sense.

[2:27:01] Self-service sense.

[2:27:04] As this has been promoted socially, so the people didn't know.

[2:27:08] Because I had somebody come in and ask for a permit last week,

[2:27:11] because it was told that it's all online now.

[2:27:14] And that individual seemed to be hurt that he couldn't do it while he was standing there.

[2:27:18] But this seems a lot more efficient, but are we promoting that out yet?

[2:27:23] So we, I will say we did a really heavy push to promote to our contractors and applicants.

[2:27:32] People that were actually applying for things.

[2:27:35] Whenever we first rolled out in St. St. St.

[2:27:38] We did Kiosk in our lobby.

[2:27:41] We did big banners. We did a contractor.

[2:27:44] or, you know, a lot of big companies have, like, permit consultants that handle all of their

[2:27:49] permitting, maybe able to have a big full company, had a lunch and learn. So we did quite

[2:27:53] a bit with the initial rollout and there's still quite a bit of education when somebody comes

[2:28:01] in to our permit text and how to do it, if they're applying for something, I don't know

[2:28:05] that we've done much of anything in terms of just general promotions to the community.

[2:28:09] Now, one-on-one, like when somebody reaches out to our staff, we'll find whatever information

[2:28:14] you're asking for, and we'll sit something I need you to talk to Kelly about, you know,

[2:28:19] for records or questions kind of thing, but we'll also sit, hey, by the way, did you know

[2:28:23] you could do this as in this, especially if it's somebody that's routinely asking for information

[2:28:27] on a particular property that they do not know.

[2:28:30] So, these are all sort of self-examatory, but the search is really kind of what I think is really

[2:28:39] helpful to folks. So again, it's going to search back through all of our planes and permits that

[2:28:45] have been in this system. And again, it's only since 2024, we're going to bring over the

[2:28:49] bad data from the old system. So if you're like, why can't I find, you know, this house that was

[2:28:54] built in 2004, it's not going to be easy. You don't want to put bad data in your system. Exactly. Exactly.

[2:29:00] Who's also going to just cost a whole lot more money to folks and so it can help us move 20 plus

[2:29:04] of track of data into this system. So, there's a lot of different options on how you can

[2:29:09] drill into this. You can also just type in the address and then it will show you all the

[2:29:15] different types of cases, current plans, things like that. So, 1241 KELOPARC wait is the new

[2:29:19] on the calisers in first-of-the-watch location.

[2:29:23] Oh, what's the true?

[2:29:26] I was stupid.

[2:29:28] You had that.

[2:29:29] We got some questions, Sarah.

[2:29:31] You did a lot of that.

[2:29:32] You did 241.

[2:29:34] How's it working for that?

[2:29:37] It's so long.

[2:29:37] It's good.

[2:29:38] How's it working for that?

[2:29:39] It's good.

[2:29:40] It's good.

[2:29:49] It's good.

[2:29:50] So this in our new, this is their actual commercial building permit to build the new one and you'll see the status is issued when you click on that permit

[2:29:59] It's gonna

[2:30:00] Take you to a little bit more information. This kind of summer table up here, but the valuation was about how big it is. And then down here in attachments, if it's an issued permit. So it's on something we have in review. It's actually something that's under construction. We've said it's going to turn dirt. If you click on any attachments, you can actually access the stamped approved permit.

[2:30:22] That's cool. And this is for any any type of plan or permit, but if it's not issue yet, it's still in review. It's not the document sure shop here. You can see it. You can see that it's in review. It just wants to say that it's issue.

[2:30:34] So the general public can access this. Yeah, this is all without logging in or registering in the counter.

[2:30:44] So we have all of our old stuff in laser fish, our official repository for documents.

[2:30:52] We just chose not to take all of our old permit documents and plan reviews and staff

[2:30:59] comments and all sorts of other stuff in the old permitting system and move it over into

[2:31:03] We still have all of our crew plan sets for commercial buildings and subdivision class.

[2:31:09] I'll leave. We have all of that. We just didn't move at all over here.

[2:31:12] Cool.

[2:31:15] So how long has this been live?

[2:31:19] This has been live. Basically since we started the plan and permits system in 2024,

[2:31:26] but we have refined it as we've gone on and figured out this isn't showing right or this isn't publishing correctly.

[2:31:32] And like I said, early on, it wouldn't have had great information because we weren't running things.

[2:31:42] But running a ton of permits and plans to the system at first, and we also were learning how to use the system, which we, I think,

[2:31:48] maybe not master but we've got a lot better handle on it now.

[2:31:51] And then the other executives and sites system, is that how we're facing or is that just, you have to have a log in basically?

[2:31:58] That you have to have a log in.

[2:32:00] And this is a pretty name, so it's lunch from me four to the ultimately in our world, but this is pretty there.

[2:32:05] Yeah, and this has been a fateful and my building, data, and the system, but our team just really got in time of training on it in the last six months.

[2:32:17] Oh, cool.

[2:32:19] Yeah, well, it's good. Great. It's anything else, sir.

[2:32:22] Yep, that's it.

[2:32:22] There's everything to be back.

[2:32:24] It's great.

[2:32:25] There's a lot.

[2:32:25] I like the conversation about this.

[2:32:27] We get complaints.

[2:32:29] Conversely, all the processes can go back.

[2:32:32] Well, for example, you did show that we had such an improvement in number of days

[2:32:39] into the big-ended apartment, through, I mean with data, chart debt, what it was considered.

[2:32:44] That's good.

[2:32:44] And the one answer.

[2:32:45] One of the things I think is really telling somebody is having a problem with the particular type of permit.

[2:32:51] You can drill into this and see, okay, well, what type of permit and maybe we're going

[2:33:01] to look at, this will update, you know, if they say, it's pretty small, you know, it's

[2:33:10] taken me two months to get my three-year-old permit.

[2:33:15] Well, if you look at the average time, that may be about right, and when you look at these

[2:33:22] the kind of make sense in terms of what's taking the longest,

[2:33:25] a non-residential renewal, or non-residential new,

[2:33:28] these are martial deletes that are required

[2:33:31] and probably a lot more review and life-sake review

[2:33:35] also on those things and the dislodges that I'm trying to do.

[2:33:40] You know what's going to have, like,

[2:33:42] more extreme cases on both of those push the average stuff?

[2:33:44] Sorry.

[2:33:45] Okay.

[2:33:46] Hey, thanks for this.

[2:33:47] This is a great overview.

[2:33:48] I just, you know,

[2:33:49] It's amazing what you learn when you take the time and thanks for taking time to educate me.

[2:33:54] I presume the colleagues.

[2:33:57] So,

[2:34:00] that concludes our work session.

[2:34:08] A couple of executive session items that you've got to compete.

[2:34:13] So, I'll go ahead and restate.

[2:34:17] Council is going to executive session under Section 551-074.

[2:34:21] the executive government code, personal and now matter to deliver it, you've been

[2:34:25] implanted by issuing assignments due to this plan, or dismissal of a public officer employee.

[2:34:29] Section 550, 71 costs a consultation with attorney close meeting, a governmental body may not

[2:34:34] conduct a private consultation with the attorney to step in the government's body, see if

[2:34:37] advice is attorney got a venue of consultation or someone off their own wishening.

[2:34:41] Do you need the attorney to go from a body in order to just find rules of professional conduct?

[2:34:46] I'm so informed.

[2:34:46] Good.

[2:34:48] Um, let's say barp taxes, put the chapter in the section of 5507 to the section of code

[2:34:54] liberation.

[2:34:54] We're going to be real property.

[2:34:56] Close meeting in a governmental body, may conduct close meeting to liberate the purchase.

[2:35:00] Change, please, revive, roll property of deliberation, and open meeting, would have a detrimental effect on the position of government body negotiation with the first person, and the agenda item, they're listed. We have the point of evaluation, please, actually, in the west, like that, center, Beverly, Beverly, Grove, Gold Coast, face to development discussion, and then 1,000 parquet of parkway, which is in that's orient. All right, we're exactly.

[2:35:32] Okay, it's 10-0-4 p.m. We're back from an executive session session.

[2:35:38] There is an action to be taken as a release to the item under Section 551-072,

[2:35:45] 1000 Bear Creek Parkway, that's related to the Anatatorium, and it's the world of this council.

[2:35:55] I believe that we sell that property, the real property, to Keller and the Financial School District.

[2:36:02] What was the value that we appraised here in?

[2:36:07] Total overall value is $2,692,000.

[2:36:12] Okay, $2,692,000.

[2:36:14] So, it's $2,027,000.

[2:36:17] And then what's the sale price that we're $675?

[2:36:22] $675.

[2:36:23] Yes, sir.

[2:36:24] Yeah, I'm glad it.

[2:36:26] It's replayed.

[2:36:27] It's replayed.

[2:36:28] So, you know, I think in cooperation and collaboration

[2:36:33] with the school district to maintain use as an auditorium and to get our folks back

[2:36:38] swimming in the pool again. I think it's the right thing to do to clean up the

[2:36:45] the legal documents so that the way that way color families can get back swimming

[2:36:49] at the auditorium that we all love that term. So thanks for the work and we go

[2:36:55] shading that price. To be clear if the building or property under the

[2:37:01] agreement, failed to be used for an educational purpose, the minor standing is pursuant

[2:37:05] to state law, river back to the city of Calderite, is that right, stand, are you turning

[2:37:09] this up?

[2:37:12] Well, I also believe this school district, the board actually, it's a school where all right,

[2:37:17] take action on this.

[2:37:18] It's either our last school board meeting.

[2:37:21] Great.

[2:37:22] Well, thanks for the work that went into this.

[2:37:23] I'm excited for the kids and families to get back in the pool.

[2:37:26] Thanks to the school board for supporting this as well.

[2:37:29] So, I'll be happy to make a motion and my motion goes to approve a resolution that authorizes the city manager to enter into and negotiate a contract.

[2:37:40] So, bill property at 1,000 Bear Creek Parkway and any amendments necessary to execute that agreement.

[2:37:48] Is there a second?

[2:37:50] All right.

[2:37:51] Are you willing to do me and make a clear that we all know it's just a land under the building itself in the parking lot?

[2:37:56] Right.

[2:37:57] Yeah, well stated I incorporate that into my motion, so emotion who is the second Councilwoman Brennan

[2:38:09] All right, all in favor say aye aye any opposed

[2:38:13] Brother

[2:38:16] Lucian passes six to zero

[2:38:19] Good work.

[2:38:23] Do we get everything right?

[2:38:25] Yeah.

[2:38:26] Aaron, are you good?

[2:38:27] We're good.

[2:38:27] You want me to reset anything?

[2:38:29] Oh, we're good.

[2:38:30] Awesome.

[2:38:31] All right. We do have one more item. We have a hardworking city council. So we're going to go back into executive session.

[2:38:38] So we can consider that more additional item. We're just finishing our performance evaluations.

[2:38:44] So we'll go back to executive section. Excuse me. Executive session under section 551074 of the

[2:38:55] assignment, duties, discipline, for dismissal of a public officer or employee, specificly has

[2:38:59] a relationship, city manager, forms of isolation, because Kelly, we already got your

[2:39:02] thought, and do a great work.

[2:39:05] Thank you.

[2:39:06] All right, we're exactly.

City Council on 2026-09-01 5:00 PM - Wednesday, August 26, 2026. - Sep 1st, 2026

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