[0:04] So those days somebody bought us lunch, somebody very much.

[0:08] And I can be me.

[0:09] I haven't eaten yet.

[0:09] I've been eating now.

[0:11] And I can smell them.

[0:13] But I'm sitting in a coffee shop this morning for a while, and it started absorbed into my clothes.

[0:19] And I'm like, yeah, no, no.

[0:21] That means, no, that's a good coffee shop.

[0:23] I mean, smell like oil.

[0:26] I'm fucking real.

[0:27] Cooking oil?

[0:28] Cooking oil.

[0:29] Ooh, that's Christmas.

[0:31] Grace.

[0:31] Let's create a lot of this.

[0:37] Okay, too.

[0:44] Okay, too.

[0:44] Are we on it?

[0:48] Then I will call this,

[0:50] two famous December 6th special meeting

[0:53] of the last 10th mission to order.

[0:56] I'll begin the mission to appear.

[0:59] I'll open up the floor to any public comment.

[1:02] Anybody has any questions?

[1:04] Sure.

[1:04] the question.

[1:10] Seeing this there's none. We'll move down the agenda. We have consent items,

[1:18] which would be a crew that reserved withdrawals for their motion.

[1:22] 7.8. Second.

[1:24] Second. Any discussion?

[1:31] The same as there's none?

[1:33] I'll just call to the vote. All those paper?

[1:42] I have a number of items here and the number one is an act to accrue the use of the

[1:47] 2025 adopted budget as the county's interim operating budget beginning January 1st

[1:55] 2006 until the 2020 since the budget is finalized.

[2:00] Go ahead and motion.

[2:03] Second.

[2:04] Second.

[2:04] Move to the second.

[2:05] Any discussion?

[2:06] I'm

[2:09] just looking at the word and the motion.

[2:21] I don't feel like doing that.

[2:24] And I think you had made a comment as potential rewarding of it.

[2:31] That could be operated on an interim budget while, which I'll not have seen the previous

[2:36] year's budget because that's really what we're looking to do.

[2:40] It is that we would have whatever a bottom line number is by common is what we're going

[2:44] to begin our budget operating ship.

[2:48] Absolutely, if I can have the floor for a minute, when I saw this, I was in shock, because

[2:53] this says, basically, we're going to do exactly what we did in the last year.

[3:00] And the wording of the law for the interim budget doesn't say we have to do exactly what

[3:04] we did before.

[3:06] It says, basically, that the bottom line can't be any greater than what you spent before.

[3:14] but operate under last year's budget.

[3:17] And the problem with last year's budget is it doesn't accommodate some of the things

[3:21] that we would like to do, even though we don't have extra money, we still would like

[3:27] to honor our requirements in terms of the union contracts, in terms of what we pay our employees.

[3:34] And if we kept the lines the same, we couldn't pay them any more than we paid the last year.

[3:39] You know, whatever it is, whether it's health insurance or oil or anything would be condemned,

[3:47] just spending exactly what we spent last year, which really absolutely won't work.

[3:53] So, I would like to probably make an amendment, but I would like to go even further to the problem

[3:59] that I have with this is though we want to see changes, I would like to know what those changes you're going to be

[4:07] before we, I mean, adopting an interim budget,

[4:10] we don't even have to adopt it.

[4:12] The logic says we can operate under an interim budget.

[4:15] We don't need to adopt that.

[4:17] What I would like to see is to,

[4:19] is adopt whatever it is that use the strategies

[4:22] that we're planning on using to make up those changed lines.

[4:27] If we have to say, OK, because we're

[4:30] going to be spending more for our employees,

[4:33] we're not going to be able to spend it on whatever it is.

[4:36] you know, a contractor who's doing work for us.

[4:41] At least for the first few months, I just would like to have us have some knowledge of what

[4:47] it's going to be rather than just saying, oh, go ahead and do it.

[4:50] I mean, I think that's what our fiscal responsibility is to make sure that it happened.

[4:56] So the problem I have with the point, proving this at all is not really approving the budget

[5:01] we're just saying it's okay to have an interim budget without changing anything.

[5:06] So, though we could change the wording of this and that would be fine, it's not a little

[5:10] way I would like to see us do, if that makes sense.

[5:15] All right, great.

[5:16] Well, a couple of questions.

[5:18] Number one, we can't spend any more than we spent in 2025.

[5:24] Correct.

[5:25] But if we are secure in the fact that we are going to have a 2020 six-budget

[5:31] later this year, that would allow us to increase the pay and take care of the contracts and

[5:40] insurance and things like that, and hoping that we don't run out of money in October.

[5:46] That's not just going to be responsible for the high end.

[5:48] And there's the kind of levels that we have to get here.

[5:52] We have a lot of levels that have to be good enough.

[5:55] We can't be sure that we're going to have more money to make sure that.

[5:59] So in that case, do we have the funds that we spend in other things last year?

[6:05] Do we know where those are coming from?

[6:06] The transfer of two little around.

[6:09] Because that's a question you're asking, where are we getting?

[6:13] We're not asking where we're getting the money, because that comes from taxes.

[6:17] No, no, no, no, no.

[6:18] But one way is we're transferring it from what line to what line?

[6:23] Right, apart from what we've certainly had the ability to move money around.

[6:28] But my question to care, my question to Kathy would be in looking at all the budgets, is there enough money to move around from last year's budget to take care of people in charge for people come first rather than things or something like that?

[6:47] Do we have the money available to us to take care of those changes?

[6:56] Yes, I know.

[7:00] I will say, and I'm excluding corrections from any of my comments, because that's a movie

[7:08] target, and that's still the work done, so everything I'm saying does not include them.

[7:14] The half of our departments could cover the increase for 26 to include the health insurance

[7:22] change. And they can cover it from various ways that they've had changes in

[7:27] personnel that may have been at lower stuff.

[7:30] The last year, people have dropped insurance that had insurance. A lot of different moving costs in any recent revenue projected versus what they had last year.

[7:40] But half of the payments don't have a mechanism to cover. They can cover partially. I will use my answer as an example.

[7:49] So if I eliminate my open timeline, meals are my literary investment in training, I can

[7:58] cover a piece of it, I can't cover all of it.

[8:03] And what can you do, parents, are in that same situation?

[8:07] I'm going to ask, and that's because one of the things that I learned about the county is

[8:14] We basically are a government to provide services through the people we have.

[8:22] We don't do things as much as the town's do, as much as we, you know, basically people

[8:28] oriented, and those people provide services, so that's why there's not money to move around.

[8:33] There's not buying new cloud products and things I've got to do.

[8:37] Correct, that physical purchases that can be delayed are pretty small percentage of budget

[8:45] So, computers, things like that, we wouldn't be moving forward with those would be on delay.

[8:52] Capital purchases, like vehicles for the Sharks Office would be in delay, so that wouldn't be

[8:57] back to it.

[8:58] But we don't have a lot of those purchases, that's my understanding.

[9:04] So, when I'm looking at all of the departments,

[9:13] if we move forward with increases, we are

[9:16] potentially about 308,000 uncovered, meaning that we at this particular time don't have

[9:24] a means to cover it.

[9:26] Now, I think that we could reduce that some by going to line item by line item and making very hot choices.

[9:36] Do I think that we could cover all of it?

[9:39] No, the biggest piece of that is communications.

[9:43] Communication alone is 206 of that.

[9:48] And that doesn't tell a lot of variation in that.

[9:51] No, it's all people.

[9:53] It's people, and then it's contracts, it's towers, it's maintenance for towers, that very small percentage is training meals supplies that could be very low.

[10:07] We do have a building lease that we have in 25 that we won't have in 26, which is $67,000, which could help to offset that.

[10:19] We also have from a capital perspective, we have 1951,000, that was for share of vehicles.

[10:25] But I say that with a caveat that they may be already anticipating you using that money to cover

[10:31] their overtime, which they're very much overspent in 25.

[10:36] So on paper, that looks like that's available, but they may have it factor in other places.

[10:42] So, that leads to my question knowing what it would like to accomplish, we don't have the funds for it right now.

[10:52] The only option you have, in order to move forward is to, I will use the word exact, that they may be issued on, and that would have to come from undescalated.

[11:03] If we don't get a 26 budget, we don't get approval of a 26 budget.

[11:08] You know, making a decision to move forward, and that if we can't as we continue plugging away

[11:16] things that we can put on hold or eliminate, that we would then fund the difference from

[11:23] undecided the end of the year.

[11:25] And do we have enough in undecided funds to do that?

[11:28] Right now, from a general fund, undecided, and we are at 10%, we like to be at 20.

[11:36] I'm hoping that we're going to end 25 at least 14 or 15 percent, so I'm hoping we're going to be having more than that.

[11:45] The challenge that we run into is communications isn't going to have enough designated.

[11:50] And the only way that we can legally help them with any overage is to use continuously.

[12:03] So there's options, it's just their hard choice to make it.

[12:11] Is there a way to do this as a six month budget?

[12:16] I mean, because we're adopting it whatever we want at this point.

[12:19] We're basically just accepting an interim budget and aiming for something.

[12:26] The question is, we're aiming for a certain number halfway to the year.

[12:32] And if we can do it based on halfway and at works, then we know what we can do the rest of the year.

[12:37] We're hopeful we don't have to go to hell if we're on your own.

[12:41] But at least the six months will allow us to do it, we do that.

[12:45] Jockey in and still give everybody and give us an idea at the end of that.

[12:49] What our contingency or our undesignating fund would be.

[12:53] I mean, is that a way to go back or should we be thinking about the whole year?

[12:56] I'm not exactly, so you're suggesting we'll be forward to 26 increases for six months versus a full year.

[13:06] No, I'm just talking about keeping the bottom line the same.

[13:11] Yeah, only 25.

[13:13] Yeah.

[13:13] But doing their changes that we think we can do for the first half of the year.

[13:19] You know, and then worrying about the second half if we have to change that,

[13:23] And we adopt whatever we need with that.

[13:27] I think we need to move forward with direction to department managers as far as what their spending

[13:37] looks like, which would be minimal, only necessary spending, that even though overtime may

[13:45] be needed in departments, that it should be minimized, because that's a big line item.

[13:51] That, as I'm saying, that that's easier to send than done because there's still work that needs to happen.

[13:58] This will shift that need to be covered.

[14:01] So that's a variable, but it also has a direct impact on comments by saying,

[14:06] we need you to just to minimize that spending.

[14:10] And then as we go along, we can evaluate.

[14:13] And then we may need to take even hotter choices.

[14:17] when we're hitting first quarter, and we're not where we think we should be, then we may be into,

[14:23] I'll say, canceling a contract if we feel like the 26th budget isn't moving forward.

[14:29] As I sort of why I'm talking about a six-month thing, is so that we can, at that point say,

[14:34] oh, we have to make even harder choices, or it's not as bad, or we do have to go.

[14:39] So I don't know if that makes any sense.

[14:41] I'll check in quarterly, whether we check in quarterly, that we make sure, you know, I just want to find a mechanism that expands it's going to be, we can sort of not get quite a whole thing on it right away.

[14:57] We're definitely up. I mean this is a very...

[15:00] I'd also ask the auditors to move up our audit so that we have a better idea of where we're going to end this year.

[15:08] Normally, we keep our year open until, let's say, the end of February to make sure we capture all 25 expenses we have to cut that off paper, just because we're in a very difficult situation.

[15:21] So let me just want to second, I want to thank you, and county administration for making sure that we have an audit every year.

[15:30] I believe that some of the problems that some of the counties now is they haven't had an audit every year.

[15:36] So we do know exactly where we stand and if we move that ahead, it's even better.

[15:42] Because my analysis in the audit is our and how much work it takes.

[15:45] They may not be able to move it up ahead, but at least we're moving in that direction.

[15:49] So thank you very much for being on top of that, just okay, now whatever you can say.

[15:55] I have a question.

[15:56] I have a question across that they will continue.

[15:58] I mean, as of right now, we're scheduled for 25.

[16:00] I feel, pardon me, the reason I need to rep sometimes when somebody's up,

[16:04] is not because I have more of the web things to say.

[16:08] I'm old, and my memory doesn't use in the last to the second sentence.

[16:13] So I blur things out.

[16:15] You don't mind.

[16:16] You're going to say hi.

[16:17] I hope I didn't, I hope you could sort of have been.

[16:20] I have that same one about my question, and I'd like my question, and I'd rather

[16:23] have somewhat humorous than helpful for you, is if you were foolish enough to be a peer

[16:28] instead of one of us, what would be your recommendation?

[16:33] That's not fair.

[16:35] That's not fair.

[16:36] That's not fair, because I have to look at it from a different perspective than you do.

[16:40] I know.

[16:42] And what I think is risk, I can't answer that.

[16:47] Okay, because you have more knowledge than we are here. We're going to have about this.

[16:54] I will say that right now we, if nothing else happens, then I say that if. And, um, we have enough

[17:06] in undeserving the cover on paper what it looks like. We would be sure to move forward to 26.

[17:13] that leaves us at risk of really diminishing what's in undesignated way below what

[17:21] a conference on it. Is that that includes making some of those hard choices

[17:27] beforehand cutting some of that stuff? We're still having that. It's not like we're

[17:32] going to go ahead with the poll. 2026 on a designated balance.

[17:38] If I understood that

[17:40] on paper is kind of worst-case scenario and hoping that as we continue working with

[17:46] to common managers but you know also in order to make this really work all

[17:51] department managers have to be on board to support each other that if we have

[17:57] departments that are larger that want to be a silo and only take care of what

[18:03] their department needs are this is going to work because we have supporting

[18:08] comments that have no mechanism to reduce further than a very small percentage, and we can't

[18:16] come ourselves.

[18:17] But we're supporting the bigger comments.

[18:19] I mean, I'm hearing what you're saying, and I also was coming at this thinking it would

[18:26] really be nice to have at least the first quarter for us to take a look at, but if I understand

[18:32] what you're saying, it seems like it doesn't make sense to do it.

[18:38] or six months because you really need to take the full context of the year into account to have an

[18:45] accurate assessment of what this is going to do to the overall budget. So it sounds like it does

[18:51] not for my perspective. It makes sense to do those shorter turns and it does sound like

[18:58] department heads are going to be thinking about this probably 24 hours a day until we have a

[19:05] So in the future, what I would like to see happen is I would like to have a report out

[19:14] at every meeting that we have from you and I'd like all the department has to be here

[19:20] for those meetings just to give us an update on where things stand as we're working our way

[19:26] through this because if we can't have a clear picture from the outset, we at least all need to be

[19:33] on the same page going forward, and it gives us an opportunity to say who, like, is there anyone who is not being a team player in this?

[19:43] We need to understand that and make sure that everybody is on a team and working forward together.

[19:50] So, and if we need to, if once a month is not enough, which it may not be, then maybe we need to have some special meetings in between,

[20:00] so that we, as a body, are staying on top of things as they change and develop, that we,

[20:07] you know, to me that feels like sort of a compromise to having an actual budget that we can

[20:14] work from, that we're at least being informed on a very regular basis about what things stand.

[20:20] I don't know how this sounds.

[20:26] Which is why I would like to see us have a little bit more contact before with a different

[20:35] apartment.

[20:36] Which you described is almost a policy thing is no, every apartment is not separate from

[20:44] every other apartment we were working together on this budget and this problem and I would

[20:49] like all of the department hints.

[20:52] So no, that's why I say what I'd like to see

[20:53] what the strategies are, whether we're just

[20:56] cross from public department department.

[20:58] So we know who's playing what position is it for.

[21:04] Rather than just say, after the first month,

[21:06] oh, you can do what you're supposed to do.

[21:08] I'd like everybody to know before we do this,

[21:10] exactly what everybody's supposed to do.

[21:12] Does everybody knows beforehand that their department

[21:15] is, unfortunately, because they have more things

[21:19] they spend their money on, that they're going to be curtailed to help out another department.

[21:24] And so I would really like us because this is our financial responsibility.

[21:29] You have a vending grasp of what different departments you're doing.

[21:33] As I say, the strategies that we're taking, and now they have to the fact that before it happened.

[21:39] I mean, that's, I like, Morgan's idea of having the department and it's in the meeting,

[21:44] So that if certainly to start off with in January, so that we can get a handle on it through all work and together or it is something to not.

[21:56] And what the strategy is to answer.

[21:59] I think it's a great idea.

[22:03] I will, for our, like, deeds is projecting that they have revenue for 26 will be higher than 25 which will help all of us.

[22:09] Yeah.

[22:10] Right.

[22:11] And it's a projection.

[22:30] Has a big impact on the agenda item? Sheriff's department has a very big budget, understandably, so there's a lot of variation there.

[22:44] And I wish I had to see if that's what I was trying to draw a focus. I don't want to speak for them, but if we're saying we need over time immunize, that may mean that there's something in that department that needs to change that would have an impact in some capacity.

[23:01] I won't point it was mentioned that maybe control of certain would need to stop.

[23:07] I don't want to speak for them, but just as an example of in what if for them to do business as usual they need XMOM money.

[23:15] We're saying we really need you to operate with last. What does that mean for them?

[23:21] Similar to finance, if you can't think of my overtime, it is going to be a struggle to meet their requirements to get ready for an audit.

[23:30] We'll get there, but now it's going to come more on me instead of a team atmosphere and getting there.

[23:36] You know, but we'll get there, but there is impact of these decisions.

[23:42] Yeah.

[23:42] I mean, we apologize that this is where we are.

[23:46] You know, unfortunately, it's just...

[23:50] It's temporary.

[23:51] It's hopefully temporary.

[23:53] Hopefully next year's budget won't be going up 25% to make up for this.

[23:59] But we'll have to go up in a whatever it is, five or eight percent just to make up for what we need to do in the next year.

[24:09] And so the unfortunate problem here is we're talking about two or three different budgets all at the same time.

[24:16] We're also talking about if we do get to improve the real budget in the future, what's that kind of look like at the same time.

[24:25] We're not going to, even if we, if we get more money on getting the opportunity to have another budget,

[24:31] we're certainly not going to just keep this into the budget.

[24:35] That's going to have to be watched on.

[24:37] And so the question is, you know, how long is it going to take us to put that budget in the place, too?

[24:43] Right.

[24:43] And if we move forward to the 26th year, you're created.

[24:48] You've already approved something that the budget committee has to approve along with you.

[24:52] Although they don't approve based on line items per se, but we have moved forward with a decision

[25:00] excluding them from our decision.

[25:02] So I have a question about if at some point we have a 26 question we can put together.

[25:09] Normally that would have been done already and the towns would have to be prepared to pay it.

[25:17] What happens if we come to them in June and say, okay now we've got our new

[25:22] budget, and here's your bill for what, you know, as services.

[25:27] It's going to be a difficult world for them as well.

[25:30] I would imagine.

[25:32] I would imagine that also when I would hopefully

[25:34] would have an idea, I first

[25:37] or as far as when we would have something to them,

[25:40] and Chelsea had pulled together information

[25:43] as far as when the towns go to townboat

[25:46] so that we're aware of those dates,

[25:49] and I would hope that maybe there's some level of flexibility

[25:52] that if we don't have our information, so I'm afraid they may be able to push their vote forward a little bit,

[26:00] or if not making a assumption of what we're going to need from that.

[26:06] Yeah, it's going to be tough.

[26:07] Because I know that the candidate, but you may be in this month of April usually,

[26:13] and they vote for June, but they need to prepare for it, because I'm involved in that still.

[26:18] So, just trying to think beyond just our walls and make sure that the downs, we need to communicate with them really well about to their prepared for and increase as we get to, hopefully, money, something we will be able to get into, just thinking ahead of a little bit.

[26:40] And I think just looking at both sides of the point that employees are anxious and waiting to hear what direction they would go in.

[26:49] Just because it has been mixed messages because we have been in such area of flux.

[26:55] So I think just a decision to answer that they know obviously morale is a good going through a lot, which is a factor of a lot of people.

[27:04] The other side of that is the public facing of that we do not have a 26 budget but we're moving forward to 26 to increase this potential.

[27:15] Again, for my perspective, people are more important than things and rather see people get what they need.

[27:24] And we're going to try out Beth's to come or I'll be last down about that and it's going to be a lot of work and it's going to be painful for

[27:32] managers more than others, but hopefully we can minimize the impact to employees.

[27:40] Well, it's important that this is not a job, you know, like to be for self-saving and management.

[27:45] You know, it's not a job you take in the expectation that it's always going to be good and you happy and you've got to respond.

[27:53] And we have to be prepared for tough times, and that's why people become managers.

[28:02] We will get through this and hopefully we'll get through it nicely, but it's a tough time right now.

[28:13] One other issue I have with the language of this motion is it says until the 2026 budget is finalized.

[28:23] And we don't know that it will be.

[28:27] So, I think I'm okay with approving these of the 2025 adoptive budget as the keys in term operating budget,

[28:38] We're getting January 1st, 2026, based on what Kathy has started to us and I hope.

[28:45] I think that I want to change the language.

[28:50] That's a little less difficult.

[28:54] You can do it in the japan.

[28:56] Maybe the thing in the middle.

[28:57] Until the new budget is approved.

[28:58] Because if we can't pull it to 26, then we've potentially going to be operating on 25 through 20.

[29:04] Yeah.

[29:04] Go ahead for a bit.

[29:05] Yeah.

[29:05] I would say until the new budget is approved.

[29:11] I think you should make an amendment and we should go on that.

[29:14] I see. But again, I think this thing, by saying we're going to do what four are says we're going to do.

[29:22] Business redundancy.

[29:23] So we don't need to do that.

[29:24] And I don't know the other to need it.

[29:26] When I say you have proof of budget, I would like to approve the strategy that we're talking about.

[29:32] You know, with the different departments, you know,

[29:34] There's some basic idea that says what we're really planning on doing.

[29:40] That would be the budget I would vote in favor of, and again, I don't know if they have to do it.

[29:45] I would like to do it now.

[29:47] I would like to do it in the early January, at least everybody knows what we're standing on.

[29:54] I don't want to make it so much work to do.

[29:56] is now putting in all this over time to snuck in.

[30:00] But it really should be one of individual meetings with the county administrator myself and the time advantageous to kind of talk through, because sometimes you just need to act things around.

[30:12] But I think we can work towards that.

[30:15] So if you want to make the amendment or if you throw it down in a way it is okay, it is

[30:20] worth it.

[30:21] I'm not going to put it down, or do you want a table?

[30:25] Um, table is fine.

[30:27] It's been a month or a month.

[30:28] Table it to the next month if you want to, other wording that we want to amend it at that

[30:33] point.

[30:34] Yes.

[30:34] I think that's good enough.

[30:35] What do you think?

[30:36] I don't know.

[30:36] that.

[30:39] So, somebody made a commercial, I'll make a commercial, and I'll make a commercial

[30:42] in that we table. Listen to the J&R. I'll second. The more J&R, the more J&R.

[30:48] Any discussion, I think we've already discussed a table again?

[30:54] All those are better? I mean

[30:57] every nine of those. And that leaves the end, too. The second action, I don't know. One of

[31:04] This is why we wanted to do that, which is an act of prioritizing the continuation of scheduled CPI in the step of justice during the interim budget period.

[31:15] Good afternoon.

[31:16] Thank you.

[31:18] Second.

[31:19] Because I think that's exactly what we're trying to do here.

[31:23] Make sure that that's our big priority.

[31:27] I think we want everybody to know that that's our goal.

[31:32] And have the administration and finance use that as a guide for where we want and so that everybody

[31:40] can staff knows that that's what we're trying to do here.

[31:44] Trying to do what you're voting, yes, to do that as a engineering person.

[31:48] We don't know what you're going to throw at us, whether there really is the money to do it or not.

[31:53] And so, if you find it, yes, that we want that will be what we approve, but until we know for sure that you take this money there, I don't want to hamper everybody and say, oh, you're going to definitely do this.

[32:10] Well, we don't know what it's possible.

[32:12] Well, it's the language's priority.

[32:15] Yes.

[32:16] So it's not.

[32:19] Well, we need to make it to because right now, these steps would start to change you plan.

[32:24] You're going to set that using the contingency in all the different funds.

[32:31] You believe you can make it.

[32:33] It would put us in a very thin margin, but you believe you can do it.

[32:37] So we need to make a decision when we head with it.

[32:40] Yeah, we can't postpone it anymore.

[32:43] Well, you've cut, so, again, looking at all the departments and not just based on conversations

[32:51] that there's 300,000 that on paper we wouldn't be able to cover right now, not excluding

[32:58] corrections again. I can't say that at all.

[33:03] We can't always put in 26 increases at any time

[33:09] and retrovacive, that's what you choose.

[33:12] It's just that employees are,

[33:15] is this going to happen for me January 1st?

[33:18] Is this going to potentially happen later?

[33:21] What does this look like for me?

[33:23] So I think that's what we're asking right now

[33:27] is that our employees going to get this 26 increase January 1st

[33:31] are going to depend to a future meeting

[33:34] to continue this discussion.

[33:38] I don't know what else we discussed.

[33:40] and what we discussed down until we know what's happening in the 26th.

[33:45] I mean,

[33:49] I mean, I think she wants more strong

[33:52] awarding than just prioritise.

[33:55] Correct. I mean, I think the reason I want to rock prioritise is I want to give

[34:00] you, I want to give administration the authority basically to make this happen

[34:06] wherever you think it's going to happen. But I don't want that here for you and say,

[34:12] oh, you've got to do this and this is the way to do it. I want to give you the lead way to do it,

[34:16] the way that you and administration feel as best to do it. If you'd like more guidance than that,

[34:23] we can change it from prioritized to whatever the best way to what's the best work.

[34:33] I'm still a little fuzzy on the way you just said that, so I guess that I don't think that this is an administrative decision as to whether to move forward with the 26th increases.

[34:46] I think that's a commission decision to either say yes move forward as a January 1st or I want to hand this decision to a future date when I have additional information.

[34:58] And because that's what employees are looking, they need to know what's going to happen with us.

[35:03] I think the wording should be act to authorize the intanguation of scheduled CBI during

[35:10] the hour of the weeks.

[35:11] Step adjustment stirring the interim budget gradient, because that's what that's good to do.

[35:17] So the other thing I'm trying, that can be, that can be, that will, or maybe have a better

[35:22] credit wording.

[35:23] No, that's fine.

[35:24] I think I'm going to step back a little bit from why I just said about being right

[35:28] to vote on this today. The only thing that gives me hesitation and makes me want to wait until

[35:34] January is I want to hear from the sheriff because we're hearing from counties perspective

[35:40] that were 300,000 over with an out the sheriff's budget. Is that what I'm saying? Without corrections.

[35:48] Oh, with that perspective, the sheriff's appointment is in this piece corrections isn't, but we would have a better idea

[35:59] by January, all the individuals and corrections would be where they're going to be, all the decisions of policies as to what's happening with employees.

[36:10] Plus, I would think that that point there was a better idea of what contracts I was staying in place and what on from a corrections perspective.

[36:20] With that information, then I'm still inclined to wait until January.

[36:24] And have the share I can capture would here to fill us in on where things stand as it relates to every all the work that you love.

[36:33] But then it would have to be retroactive.

[36:37] And I think as I would like to take the department managers, we'll know that our intent is to do this.

[36:47] But we just need to be responsible and have more information before we get this decision.

[36:53] I think that's very fair that I think you've said it very well that employees just need to feel that you're taking this very certain opportunity.

[37:02] But you are prioritizing this and that will make our unique January 1st that we are hoping that we can do this and then

[37:11] ruptured back and that we will be able to accommodate that.

[37:16] In the meantime, we could be having some very serious department manager meetings to talk through the impacts and what we need from each other to make this all work.

[37:28] two things, number one.

[37:30] Next schedule meeting would be to 13th of January. That's the second Tuesday.

[37:35] So here we go. That will be out of town in the Tuesday, before or something.

[37:38] Can't repeat or before that.

[37:40] And then they may need that time. You may need that time.

[37:44] You wouldn't want to do it earlier necessarily.

[37:47] I would say no. I mean, we are trying for a lot of people, managers, especially to take some time on.

[37:52] Yes. That's right.

[37:54] And give that a little bit of breathing room fee, or we kind of dive back into this.

[37:58] on the 5th or 13th to be elected.

[38:02] One other thing I want to say, there's been the way the process

[38:07] report changes with the corrections department.

[38:11] And I want to make sure all the employees know that they keep

[38:15] turning it as it's making the change because we don't have a 26

[38:21] budget and that's not why the change is happening.

[38:25] change is happening because it's a financial decision to go to a better facility to make sure that we don't need to put

[38:36] $50 or $100 million in the prison in short term. It saves this long-term money. It's a better situation, hopefully, for a lot of people.

[38:48] But it's not based that we, the misnomer said it's not, we're not doing this because we didn't have a 26 budget.

[38:54] We would have been done anyway, and people need to understand the other departments, so we're not looking to,

[39:01] we need one way to explain the other department.

[39:04] That's not what that was about, and the process has never been clear about that in the recording.

[39:12] And that may be our fault that we never articulated that clear enough.

[39:17] But we care about all the people, and I don't foresee changes in any department.

[39:24] or that we need to do last because of this, you know, we have to do the same for people.

[39:33] That's my perspective.

[39:36] I just want to clarify about prioritized versus authorized.

[39:41] I am, and I'm prioritized.

[39:43] However, I think that the cacking others need decisive photographs.

[39:50] So that's why I can't.

[39:53] of the rise and it's fine but that's I'd like to wait until January so I

[39:58] again I'm lying to table that's again have the meaning in January let's hear

[40:04] from folks at that point particularly corrections you think everybody's gonna get

[40:10] the message if we vote this don't vote on this now that that won't be

[40:23] I would have thought that message was out there already this is we've been talking about this for a couple of months now and every time

[40:30] We've talked about it. We said no, if you want to do is make sure we honor those things

[40:35] So that the message hasn't gotten out so far it has but it's Elis and writing until they hear

[40:44] From Austin writing they've heard it from you

[40:53] along, right. Thanks a lot. Well, sorry.

[40:55] That's a lot of people don't come up with meeting with a record yet, and it's on the left side.

[41:00] So that can't be, or you okay with that as well.

[41:04] Yes, and I think that employees have to know that you support this to them, and it comes down to them, looking okay, great.

[41:14] What is it going to happen?

[41:16] So, I think the communication as far as it will not be as a January 1st was still been a work on that, and so that it's just they know it's still in the forefront and has a definite of what the expectation is on that first day.

[41:30] And I mean, obviously we can't say definitively what will happen in January, but it is our intent to go for that situation right?

[41:38] So we just need a little more information.

[41:42] So then is there a motion to table?

[41:44] I would love to table this and touching it.

[41:49] That's all.

[41:50] That's all.

[41:50] It's been moved in a second.

[41:52] Any more discussion on the table?

[41:56] One more question.

[41:57] Is this going to cause any problems with a table in it for one month or for three weeks?

[42:05] Okay.

[42:05] It's the same message.

[42:07] Okay.

[42:08] I just want to make sure I just, you know,

[42:11] with people in all the days.

[42:16] Though I will say that some employees

[42:21] count on overcomes to make up the money

[42:24] that they need to earn.

[42:27] And by doing this means that we're

[42:29] going to be canceling some overtime.

[42:31] It's still, in fact, some employees

[42:33] in terms of what their take on pay is going to be.

[42:36] So as long as that's understood,

[42:38] that still is a burden that our employees

[42:42] you're going to carry it.

[42:45] Hopefully it's temporary strand.

[42:48] If we have, if anybody has an open-ended idea, I don't know, dear.

[42:55] I don't see any hands.

[42:59] That being the case, I'll call it both.

[43:01] All those paper.

[43:03] Okay.

[43:04] Three paper, none of those.

[43:07] Next act is an act to accept an administrative policy,

[43:13] the entire separation and re-higher pulse.

[43:19] Yes, do I have a motion?

[43:21] Class of it.

[43:23] The meaning is second.

[43:25] Would you like to,

[43:26] how come I'm so glad I like to be an intern?

[43:28] I like this seat better.

[43:30] Then we'll directly have you.

[43:32] So we have discussed this in the last meeting

[43:35] if you had asked for a little more broader policy

[43:39] to allow us more flexibility on a case-by-case basis

[43:42] to allow us to take everybody's case at one at their own markets, right?

[43:48] So the basic line in here that states that states that we would review each situation

[43:54] in case by each basis, however, I put a little bit of parameters around there,

[43:58] so we're not very out too much, you know, some guardails in there,

[44:02] but they're not limited to it because we don't know when each person's situation.

[44:06] So we'll review based upon performance, attendance, seniority, closely related experience in the new position and relative training and certifications, policy compliance, operational budget, operational impact, budgetary considerations, comparative qualifications and other applicants and current staffing needs.

[44:31] Basically, that's everything in it, that I could think of, that we would, that are the top

[45:00] Right, through what I thought in a wonderful job of giving a special ability to still in guidelines and allow us to work with our employees as we can.

[45:13] Yeah, and I also truncated it and we had different policies for each way to separate.

[45:20] And I just got rid of all that instead of a voluntary separation in a voluntary, I just put a separation.

[45:25] So, we're going to take the same approach no matter how you left us.

[45:33] The question.

[45:39] The question here is the last sentence of the behind-the-secoration of the paragraph,

[45:48] says in less otherwise required by Laura C.D.A.B.

[45:51] hired in whose work he is, may be treated as new hires for purposes of probation,

[45:56] seniority, compensation, and benefits, and knowledge of ability.

[46:01] So, it basically says, if somebody wants to come back, you may just treat them as if they're a brand new hire.

[46:09] Depending on their situation, correct.

[46:11] For layoffs, we would not, for certain.

[46:14] But if they just left on their own merit, our CBA states and our state of policy and practice have been

[46:20] the treason as a new employee.

[46:22] However, this also allows us the flexibility to adjust in some of those areas.

[46:27] So, we'll take a consideration.

[46:28] You already know, but we may not adjust their higher name, and they may have a new higher name.

[46:35] The key word there is maybe treated, which gives rise to the correct.

[46:45] Well, I don't see that we're making anything by being, by writing this for you, right?

[46:53] So, I don't see anything why we shouldn't just agree with the way it is.

[46:57] I'll make a motion to accept it.

[46:59] But we already have.

[47:02] Anybody in the audience that was a comment on this?

[47:11] Because the only other thing I would have, I love this flexibility that this gives administrative staff.

[47:19] And I appreciate your work on this because we didn't ask you to go back and read the letter.

[47:24] The written policy, it assumes a generosity of spirit amongst administrative staff, administration, and commissioners that may not always exist.

[47:43] I like to make it just right now.

[47:46] And we wanted to invest at the end, but in the future, and I think everyone is on the same page about that, but in the future, that may not be in the case.

[47:57] However, I don't think the other policies that will ever pull their policies would have changed that either.

[48:05] But I just want to keep that out that just as, you know, when new governors come in, or new presidents come in, things change.

[48:18] I think we have to keep in mind that that is also possible here too.

[48:23] Yeah, 100%.

[48:24] Just an observation.

[48:26] I will try not to let it change.

[48:28] Yeah.

[48:28] I trust that everyone who is here now has that generosity of spirit and wants the best for everyone in the county.

[48:39] Yeah, well it is just a policy and any point in the future if we don't trust there, staff, we can change the policy.

[48:48] We may not be here.

[48:49] Well, whoever goes and the change of what he said, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, of course, simply that way.

[48:55] Plus, it also talks about elected officials were applicable, yes.

[49:00] We're not part of that because we don't have any great say in hiring employees,

[49:09] but I suspect this is a more for the sheriff's department.

[49:12] The sheriff's probably, yeah, you know, yeah, I don't know for a second.

[49:19] All of those are planned here.

[49:21] Any further discussion?

[49:24] Seeing as it's not, all those are favourites.

[49:28] Three and three are now opposed.

[49:29] And next.

[49:32] And the act is an act to accept the administrative policy and kind of a transfer policy.

[49:40] So our old transfer policies, state of course, you have the help of science, and pollution,

[49:45] yes, and so on too, you should do suicide as a fear of fact.

[49:48] It's been moved the second, okay, thank you.

[49:52] Perfect, thank you.

[49:54] So our old transfer policy was very simple.

[49:57] You kept your same step, which in reality for people who have been here for a very long time

[50:02] seems great.

[50:03] However, if you were here for ten years, if you were a recently promoted,

[50:06] And then we transfer you our promotion policy move you back three steps. So what good does that do?

[50:15] What individual? Why does it do that? It's how it was written. It's another one that I'm looking to adjust.

[50:21] I almost included in here as another adjustment, but since I haven't previously brought up to you,

[50:26] I didn't want to throw you a curve ball. This was most important to give it a recent situation.

[50:30] But that will be one we will be looking at down the road because we don't want our people going backwards

[50:35] It's just because the policy says, right?

[50:37] So again, this policy is written the same way.

[50:40] It allows the flexibility to take everybody's situation

[50:43] on a case, like case basis, the same language

[50:46] as the separation of the policy, because we

[50:49] want to be fair and act with what was possible

[50:51] and not lock people into some arbitrary step

[50:54] that they may have looked back for something.

[51:00] And we have a copy.

[51:01] And it's also very hard to talk about how

[51:03] they're all together in a single document.

[51:05] Is it okay as well?

[51:06] Yeah, oh sorry.

[51:07] Yeah, right, internal right, the language is here.

[51:11] I was in the United States,

[51:13] we're integrating this time, we're out of testing trees,

[51:16] we're in both of crisis.

[51:18] Oh, it's a different one, yes, yes.

[51:21] Yeah, you said you weren't making a part of this, but you are.

[51:24] Well, it's part of this, yes.

[51:26] But it was part of separate before, you know.

[51:30] So we have rid of this, yes, correct, yes.

[51:33] Green,

[51:40] any further discussion?

[51:43] It's not that all those in favor,

[51:48] three in favor, none of the opposed.

[51:51] The next one is an actual proof of a transfer from the undecidated funds that they continue to consider.

[52:00] It's about transfers.

[52:07] Do I have a motion?

[52:08] That's another two.

[52:10] Second.

[52:11] Can I give you a question?

[52:12] Is the light enough on this one?

[52:13] Yes.

[52:14] Start your states that when the state candidate is less than $800,000, we need to replenish it.

[52:21] We have utilized the contingency to assist communications with the coverage that they have been having regained for the income.

[52:30] Department, excuse me, a different fund, other than general fund.

[52:36] So, this has been the mechanism we've been using to fund the overages of communications.

[52:41] Correct. So, the plus this transfer of confidence, I will then go in and transfer specific entries

[52:49] within per DM from communications into the contingency account.

[52:54] And one of the part that they were having a problem with old bridges that would come right out of the undisitated fund.

[53:02] Correct.

[53:03] Communication.

[53:04] It's projected to utilize.

[53:06] It's projected.

[53:08] If we end the year better than we expect, we will do the opposite.

[53:14] But we do still think we have money there.

[53:18] The end of the year will know exactly how much it is.

[53:21] from the anti-designory, this on paper is a down to 10%.

[53:41] I hope that we end the year favorable, and yes, it would replenish it.

[53:49] Great.

[53:50] All those are the paper.

[53:53] The main paper is a little closed.

[53:55] And then the next one we have is an active charge interest in municipalities with

[54:04] the link with 325 taxes and the link with communication fees.

[54:09] And I think I'm the administrative summary special meeting sheet, explains what towns

[54:18] I don't know,

[54:27] sorry, in a second.

[54:30] My only question is the interest rate.

[54:37] Do we have flexibility in what that interest rate is that set by the state?

[54:41] Set by the state and it is communicated in the invoices that go to the towns in April 1, May.

[54:48] So they get their invoice enabled may, then in August, finance sends out a reminder to let them know that when their payments to do what the payments are, we crush this day of memory on the interest rate, on research.

[55:03] And then once they do not meet the deadlines, we follow up again. So it's not that we just send one invoice and then we're not communicating with the towns of cities.

[55:17] And it's also true that we are legally required to collect the interesting interests of that act.

[55:27] No, you can decide not to.

[55:29] No, okay.

[55:30] That's why I can speak for you.

[55:34] That means we're required.

[55:39] The amount is set by the state.

[55:41] The percentage rate is set by the state.

[55:43] As far as whether we move forward to change that, that's not to the commission.

[55:48] question, how often do we run into this circumstance?

[55:54] This is the most that we've had in a couple of years, but there's always a couple.

[56:01] We have any idea why the leaders are happening.

[56:05] I can't say that I've asked the question.

[56:10] I'm also not the one that's following up.

[56:13] It's that my head specialist is following up with them.

[56:19] And would you go by the postmark on the envelope when it is built to us not the date that we get at hand in order to be fair to us?

[56:34] So I guess the only built choice is that we're faced with here is whether we charge interest at all or not.

[56:42] Correct.

[56:42] Whether you authorise me to invoice day 1,000, $3,000, $4,000 to the town's city system.

[57:00] I guess I just want to be 100% sure about our requirements here.

[57:07] I don't know where it is in statute, but I thought it was a requirement that we collect this.

[57:15] These late charges.

[57:16] And if it's not a requirement, then you'll get to know if you have any information about that.

[57:21] for communication features, the interest of the discretionary for communication.

[57:27] For contact tasks, we will discuss you the same as it does become part of the task.

[57:32] Okay, so communications we do have discretion, but counting tasks we do not have to.

[57:41] I will say in past years some years we go forward some years it has been decided to not.

[57:49] I can say also that it hasn't been challenged when it's decided to not.

[57:54] The town's not going to come in.

[57:56] Yeah.

[57:56] All right.

[57:58] I just want to make sure from the states.

[58:00] What's back is we don't have a legal requirement that we decide.

[58:04] There's no follow-up from the state on any of this.

[58:08] I will say that we are borrowing money.

[58:11] So when the towns and the cities are all paying us on time.

[58:15] We are paying interest.

[58:16] We have a chance.

[58:17] We have a chance.

[58:20] That's helpful information.

[58:22] Okay.

[58:24] Okay.

[58:26] My only question is, this has been particularly taught here for a lot of the, because of the

[58:34] your valuations and stuff like that.

[58:37] And wondering if, you know, as we've just done it, we're sure that money should we be gracious

[58:43] to the people about these taxes.

[58:47] I think that could go both ways.

[58:48] We've struggled for cash flow this year.

[58:51] We have had some very difficult times as the towns in the cities.

[59:00] And it also somewhat sets precedents that if we do not move forward that then there's

[59:05] not a lot of flexibility moving forward in future years.

[59:09] And also, it ends up going right back to the towns eventually, anyway, you know, and sort

[59:16] of a dog eating at the tail here.

[59:18] There's

[59:24] a motion on the floor, there's a motion on the menu.

[59:32] I would like to give them some time to bake without the interest.

[59:43] There's not a lot in some cases in a couple of cases.

[59:46] A couple of towns.

[59:50] Well, we can't commend it in terms of the county tax rate on the communications.

[59:55] I'm sorry I said that again. We can't. There's one year that's coming to act, which we can change.

[1:00:00] Correct. And then the communications interest we can.

[1:00:06] Based on Chelsea's research, that's what it states.

[1:00:13] Then I'd like to give the down to break on the communications.

[1:00:16] Especially because this was an interesting year of communications.

[1:00:25] What do you mean give them a break?

[1:00:27] Are you saying we shouldn't charge them?

[1:00:30] So, interest on the communications,

[1:00:41] so that can, but I can just be interested about how far

[1:00:45] against it.

[1:00:47] Are you going to put against what?

[1:00:49] A whole thing?

[1:00:52] So, you don't think even a bit?

[1:00:54] I'll make the amendment.

[1:00:56] You would like to amend this to remove the interest from the communications correct bills.

[1:01:04] Do I hear a second?

[1:01:06] I'll have to missector this.

[1:01:08] Okay.

[1:01:08] Okay, so that's the amendment, all those in favor of the amendment,

[1:01:17] all those opposed,

[1:01:20] two in favor of one of those.

[1:01:23] Now we return to the original motion that has to be, you know, any further discussion?

[1:01:37] I could see only discussion I would add is based on what Kathy is saying.

[1:01:46] And I don't want to set a precedent of late payments when it puts the accounting

[1:01:52] of position to have to borrow money and pay interest.

[1:01:56] So that's my motivation for voting to approve the motion as originally suited.

[1:02:08] And so

[1:02:11] that's my motivation.

[1:02:13] I think it's Kathy said that it has been done before, I don't think we're

[1:02:19] we're setting up pressure.

[1:02:21] I think it's been done before.

[1:02:24] On, I don't, it might have been last year or the year before when we were really

[1:02:28] first out of facing an issue with communications.

[1:02:34] At that point, yes, it was decided not to do it for that particular time.

[1:02:38] I'm not sure in that same situation right now, and we are very little opportunities for us to collect any type of additional payments or revenue.

[1:02:56] And I think it was very clear as to when things are due to us and requirements of towns and cities.

[1:03:03] Yeah,

[1:03:06] so I tend to take that into consideration and I think that we should just be very clear.

[1:03:16] You know, we're not in a unique situation necessarily now and this kind of situation moving forward.

[1:03:24] Then it would be setting a precedent.

[1:03:29] Well, let me go back and we already voted, I'd like to give it, I don't want it to be a permanent one.

[1:03:38] Yeah, but at some point, you know, if the bill doesn't get paid the next time.

[1:03:48] But it's a one-off because of the difficulties we have with occupations.

[1:03:53] And they still have to pay, I don't know, still have to pay to the interest times at a time of tax.

[1:04:01] I want to bid you a few years, but I will make the observation that so far every year has been a hard year for a good budget and building.

[1:04:14] I mean, there has not been an easy year, you know, say that, oh, this is an easy year. Well, there may be a little easier, but this is not an easy year for you.

[1:04:23] I don't think I've ever mistaken, and my money is because we don't have a lot of money, and we might need that after $1,000.

[1:04:33] But I will still support the motion as amended at this point.

[1:04:40] I'm in discussion.

[1:04:42] So can I also make one of the point is that county taxes due to us on September 1st along the communications.

[1:04:48] some town cities do not pay us until 111 because they know that interest will not occur

[1:04:54] until that time. So that also frets us as a county from a cash flow perspective when

[1:04:59] towns in cities do not pay us September 1st of a county tax.

[1:05:15] What we do can go time to

[1:05:17] look in advance. What we have left of Oda is whether church interest or the county tax

[1:05:23] That's what's left, correct?

[1:05:26] No, we haven't voted.

[1:05:28] As it is amended, oh, you're charging interest

[1:05:32] on the county tax, but not on the communications.

[1:05:36] Oh, we just have to vote.

[1:05:37] Let's change it.

[1:05:38] Yes, oh, yeah, we voted on it.

[1:05:39] No, we haven't voted on it yet.

[1:05:46] I mean, you can also repeal your amendment.

[1:05:49] Choose, we have to vote on it now.

[1:05:52] All those of you who are out of the act as a member,

[1:05:57] to invade one of those, I'm assuming.

[1:06:01] I am a host.

[1:06:03] Yes.

[1:06:04] Thank you.

[1:06:05] I didn't raise my hand, but I'll take that.

[1:06:08] I know that.

[1:06:11] Thank you.

[1:06:13] Okay.

[1:06:13] Then we have...

[1:06:17] Hopefully that.

[1:06:19] We have the executive section.

[1:06:21] We're going to ask a question.

[1:06:24] Yes, of course, since we took our vote on the budget represented in the short promise

[1:06:31] during the meeting under the rule 1 to ask any questions of the chief deputy in terms of the budget

[1:06:39] that we put whereup if he had any information.

[1:06:46] I don't write down unless you add some questions for me.

[1:06:50] I'm curious right ahead, sir.

[1:06:51] Well, I think the biggest question is, this is the share of the part of the thing that they can fit underneath the

[1:06:59] campus, spending no more than last year's budget.

[1:07:08] We are confident that we can stay with them last year if need be.

[1:07:16] Well, need be.

[1:07:18] Well, we're still in this transition, so we see if we get out from the legislature.

[1:07:25] Well, that's not what happened on January 1st.

[1:07:29] Correct.

[1:07:31] The discussion we had in the world, we've postponed it to the general in the law to increase step, increases, and sort of all people.

[1:07:40] Because we didn't have the information whether or not you were able to do that or not.

[1:07:43] This is a good communication as well, with the changes that are happening there.

[1:07:48] I have not been to some corrections? Yes.

[1:07:52] In that case, as that clear, go back and re-evaluate the vote we made, because that was the question we had, it's called the chair of my vote, as the case, and I'm going back and operation the steps to take place January 1st.

[1:08:15] I don't have my progress, but since you've got it in the majority, you can make a motion

[1:08:23] to untable it, in effect, based on the table.

[1:08:27] Is there a second to that, to take it off the table?

[1:08:32] Well, I'll make that motion in a second or last.

[1:08:41] And I like that.

[1:08:41] At least I have that discussion.

[1:08:42] Well, I will second it and then we'll vote to the table and then we'll vote to the table.

[1:08:50] Okay.

[1:08:53] Okay.

[1:08:54] Do you favor?

[1:08:57] To the table and we'll vote to the table and we'll vote to the table and we'll vote to the table.

[1:09:00] Then my question.

[1:09:01] It's that look on your face.

[1:09:03] What do you think?

[1:09:03] I mean, you can have a meeting.

[1:09:04] You can have a meeting.

[1:09:05] You can have a meeting.

[1:09:06] So I'm talking to you.

[1:09:07] This is really just to discuss it again.

[1:09:10] I don't know.

[1:09:10] It was a chair for that previous.

[1:09:12] Right.

[1:09:12] And I just wanted to add some of my questions for it.

[1:09:15] the invite is knowing what Chief Deputy Andrewt has just said. Does that make it easier

[1:09:24] go in and generate first with steps? Is it supposed to wait him to press the vote in January

[1:09:29] 18th? And there will be any additional information we'll have then that we don't have now.

[1:09:35] Yes. The sheriff's department was one of the departments that had no issue covering their

[1:09:42] increases. It's other departments, six other departments that cannot give it. So the 300,000 still is exactly the same.

[1:09:55] So I don't think any of them has changed since I thought the reason we did this was we didn't have the impact in the server.

[1:10:03] Well, what we really need from the sheriff's department is going back to all of the

[1:10:08] administrative working together that the sheriff's department helping to cover some of the

[1:10:13] unsee overages and other departments that we said that don't have those dances and we

[1:10:18] haven't had those discussions yet.

[1:10:20] Thank you.

[1:10:21] Okay.

[1:10:22] And then I just need to go against the table in previous motion.

[1:10:33] Well, we will not table it.

[1:10:35] Right.

[1:10:36] We'll take it off the table so we can discuss a little more.

[1:10:42] Okay.

[1:10:42] Department of Department, who's got a little extra money, who doesn't have extra money to cover their costs and that stuff that has to be worked out between the departments between finance and administration so that we get to the point the first week the second week in January

[1:10:58] that we now kind of that strategy that I keep mumbling about, where we know where it's coming from.

[1:11:06] And so, that I'll make a motion to keep the vote as we vote.

[1:11:11] Well, it's a retable, and we can't put it back on the table until January.

[1:11:16] Yeah.

[1:11:17] And then do I have a second for that?

[1:11:19] I will.

[1:11:19] Thank you.

[1:11:21] All those in favor of the table.

[1:11:23] Okay.

[1:11:24] Thank you.

[1:11:25] Thank you.

[1:11:27] Thank you.

[1:11:28] I would say a little confused about what exactly you mean.

[1:11:32] I don't know.

[1:11:35] I don't know.

[1:11:36] Well, I thought you all made the right decision for limited discussions, at least with people I've heard from the airport DA, they can cover themselves, they have found ways to do it, I don't know if that's the stance, but at least that's the hope.

[1:11:48] You know there's a lot of arguments, you know that there's a lot of arguments that can wave all a little bit of a real amount of it, but they're also departments.

[1:11:56] I mean, in general, we appreciate how close to the vote in every department is works in the county.

[1:12:04] We know, despite what other people think about this a lot of money and waste fraud and the views kicking around.

[1:12:10] And we know having been on this side for years now, that there isn't a lot of extra money

[1:12:17] in the company department that, oh, you can find 5% here and there, we know it's

[1:12:22] expensive.

[1:12:23] And we really appreciate that the fact that everybody has worked so hard over the years

[1:12:28] to have tight budgets, but that puts us in this body and down that will be our stock

[1:12:32] of last year's money.

[1:12:34] There isn't a lot of extra money taking.

[1:12:36] So we do appreciate that.

[1:12:38] The one that it's going to work is, as Kathy's point out, if some of the departments

[1:12:43] have find a little easier, well, some of the departments that have it even harder.

[1:12:49] So, we're hoping there's a lot of that cooperation from the Department of the Department.

[1:12:57] Can I make a motion, will you move in to the executive session?

[1:13:00] I'm not saying that.

[1:13:04] Any of that?

[1:13:04] Yeah.

[1:13:05] You want to make a motion?

[1:13:06] in the second session, the first no matter if we're showing to one MRSA 40568.

[1:13:15] Will any credit discussion on that?

[1:13:17] How has it been second?

[1:13:20] In the present discussion.

[1:13:22] Seeing as there's none.

[1:13:25] Thank you all very much for coming.

[1:13:27] We appreciate your time.

[1:13:30] I hope we're in a daily at least.

[1:13:32] Yeah, I know what you're saying.

[1:13:34] And now I'll call him up.

[1:13:37] All those members?

[1:13:40] Help me.

[1:13:40] Safety and safety, especially the K-TOT-D-C.

[1:13:42] Well, a separation and transfer policy.

[1:13:45] You'll prove that correct.

[1:13:46] Can I get a coffee in there?

[1:13:48] Yes, I can.

[1:13:48] And now, yes.

[1:13:49] I can go.

[1:13:51] You can go.

[1:13:52] You can go.

[1:13:53] What?

[1:13:55] Yeah.

[1:13:55] I can go.

[1:13:56] Yeah.

[1:13:57] I can go.

[1:14:42] So, we're back in session, and we're back in session, and we're back in session, and there's no business that came out of the exact intersection.

[1:14:51] We have a motion to adjourn.

[1:14:53] We usually discuss the idea.

[1:15:02] We usually discuss, and it's meeting, we don't have another meeting scheduled at this point till our January break in the meeting.

[1:15:11] If something comes up in the meeting, especially meeting with budget or personnel or anything else, I'm sure Chelsea can find it at a date that we're all available, but at this point we have nothing else scheduled.

[1:15:26] Any other business to come before that?

[1:15:29] You mentioned seeing none?

[1:15:31] All those in favour of your German?

[1:15:34] Three in favour of none of those.

[1:15:36] Okay.

[1:15:44] Thanks for having me.

[1:15:47] Oh.

[1:15:47] Oh, boy.

[1:15:48] I have to go ahead.

[1:15:50] I have to go ahead.

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