[0:05] The City Council of January 21, 2014 left the record reflect that it is 6.35 pm. The location we're given by City Deputy City Attorney Ryan Jones, followed by the flag, so that led the council member, Espinoza, did all rise.

[0:28] Please bow your heads as I pray. Dear God, we humbly pray that you will grant wisdom to the City Council as it considers City Business set forth in the meeting agenda tonight.

[0:38] We ask that you provide the City Council with insight and understanding of the responsibilities

[0:43] and challenges confronting our council, staff, and citizens so that we can together strive

[0:49] to solve these issues with community spirit and partnership in mind.

[0:54] Please bless the Council in this decision making tonight, so we may act prudently and responsibly

[0:59] for the good of the harbour community. Amen.

[1:04] Please face our nation flag.

[1:07] Begin.

[1:08] I would like to be a student flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic,

[1:15] towards the stands.

[1:16] One nation under God.

[1:19] Invisible.

[1:20] We would like to be in justice for all.

[1:30] All right.

[1:31] Well, clerk, please note that all council members are present.

[1:35] Are there any close session announcements?

[1:38] There would no actually take any close session.

[1:40] Thank you very much.

[1:42] Then we'll go to Propillations and Presentations.

[1:45] So I'll ask Sal to come forward and the beautification committee.

[1:49] No, you too, Sal.

[1:51] I'll shake your head and think.

[1:55] You'll ever else.

[2:19] Good evening, everyone.

[2:21] Each year, a beautification committee conducts a contest to recognize

[2:24] the Hopkins who spread holiday cheer to others by decorating their home.

[2:29] This year we received nearly 30 nominations and of course we also want to recognize the people that

[2:36] weren't nominated but did decorate their homes and participate in spreading holiday cheer.

[2:42] This evening we are going to recognize the outstanding participants and the awardees.

[2:49] So if we could start with our first winner we have our grand prize winners from a 920 Linda Avenue

[2:58] and that's the Miller family if we could have Carla and Richard Miller please come up.

[3:11] And if you could stay up here while we do a picture as well and their home is just beautiful.

[3:16] They have a beautiful historic home and they do a rendition of beautiful white lights and

[3:21] we really thank you for spreading your holiday chair and I do want to recognize our committee members.

[3:28] This is Elizabeth Steeves and Kim Praster, and we also have Venice Sharp here, and they drive

[3:35] around town and look at all the wonderful lights and nominate your home

[3:45] and congratulations.

[4:14] Congratulations to the millers and next if I could have 1100 Circle Avenue, it's the Palcoffer family if they're here tonight.

[4:28] Okay, next we'll have

[4:34] for best use of lights winner it's 2-2-4-1 sign on Avenue, James

[4:39] I'm Walter please come up

[4:48] as you can see in the photo he spelled out Noel on his roof

[4:52] which I think is pretty impressive congratulations.

[5:07] Thank you.

[5:11] Next we have, again, for best use of lights. We have 1301s here, VISTA, we're able to make it tonight.

[5:20] No. Okay.

[5:25] And for best use of theme, we have 1320 Lakeview Avenue. This is Roger and Susan Chavez. If I can please have you come up.

[5:34] Well, we were expecting them, the neat thing about their displays, it actually is all hand made by their themselves. They hand craft these lights themselves with with hard wire and they do a wonderful job.

[5:49] Next, we have the Suicif theme winner. We have 9-11 Tropocannoy. If I can have Mark and Victoria Havens, please come up.

[6:11] And I believe this was a tribute to your mother. Was it you?

[6:15] Yes, in a while.

[6:19] Well, thank you.

[6:20] It was a beautiful, beautiful job.

[6:35] And lastly, we have Michael Birch told,

[6:38] at 350 La Pazza Drive, is he in today?

[6:42] And his property is me.

[6:49] He actually has music that is in St. with the lights.

[6:53] So he does again a wonderful job, congratulations.

[7:42] Thank

[7:57] you to the committee for all of your hard work and to these wonderful families who spread holiday cheer.

[8:03] for us. They do a wonderful job, and I'm sure they're light bills interesting too. Thank you.

[8:39] Certainly a fun time of year. I like going around looking at all the Christmas decorations.

[8:46] This is the now time for public comments. This is the time for the public to address any

[8:51] of City Business not appearing on the agenda.

[8:55] Speakers must limit their comments to three minutes each.

[8:57] The total time period for public comment is 30 minutes.

[9:01] Note, per government code section 54954.3A.

[9:06] The City Council cannot take action or express the consensus of approval or disapproval

[9:11] on any public comments regarding matters which do not appear on the printed agenda.

[9:16] Please note, if you're coming forward to speak,

[9:19] The green light at the podium indicates that you have three minutes to speak.

[9:25] The yellow light indicates you have one minute left to conclude you're speaking.

[9:29] The red flashing light indicates that you have exceeded your lot of three minutes.

[9:33] So now is the time. Is there anyone here that would like to make public comments to the council of anything not on the agenda?

[9:54] My name is Warner Abbey High and I've been a resident for 28 years in here.

[9:58] Give me the homeworks, let's say you three.

[10:00] I live off of a nuclear and imperial, not a very fun place. I know that we have in a planning committee that we're going on, but it's becoming so ridiculous that I feel that I might next to a freeway with a wall that was built, or side of the town, or of a nuclear imperial, we were not notified about how high the wall was going to be. I know I spoke before about this, but now I feel that it's like freeway.

[10:27] Right next to Renee with her, the noise, the volume of cars coming, you know, through there, the smog.

[10:34] Every time we walk in our backyard and I will smell like something is burning and when I show what it is.

[10:39] Well, it turns out that when we find out, we can notice there's another spray booth being put up on the 1000 foundation, which is like right there next to my backyard.

[10:50] I found out not only do they have that they already have, they put the spray booth in the

[10:56] building before they notify us to comment or make any comments about this, so it was

[11:02] installed before it was even granted a permit. Not only that, I found out that I know that

[11:06] in period of body shot had two booths already, but then I also found out there's another booth

[11:10] which is just on a period of highway between the Euclid and Walnut, plus there's another one

[11:17] on the other side close to Cyprus.

[11:20] I don't know if you people who give the premise or authorize

[11:23] premise, there's a school within that boundary.

[11:27] And that's just too many spray blows next to that.

[11:30] I know anybody knows here there was a fiberglass company

[11:34] right there and we fought it and we fought it

[11:36] and we finally they were gone.

[11:37] Now we have this and I know when those tennis came in,

[11:40] I introduced myself that I'm the neighbor to watch

[11:42] so what kind of business you have here

[11:45] and they told me of the storage unit

[11:47] to store furniture for parts that isn't that.

[11:49] So I don't understand where the spray booth came into place.

[11:53] I talked a couple of people in the city,

[11:56] I tried to talk to the environment, and this and that,

[11:58] I'm not getting nowhere, and then to find out

[12:01] the spray booth is already operable

[12:02] before we even notify it.

[12:04] It's not acceptable to our neighborhood.

[12:06] OK, thank you for bringing that to our attention.

[12:08] And you'll need to talk to Mike Hack back there.

[12:11] You'll raise your hand, Mike.

[12:14] He'll take your information, and we'll get to the bottom of it.

[12:17] Thank you. Is there anyone else, Vanna?

[12:26] Hello. My name is Vanna Shar. I live at 1141.

[12:30] Roddy, Dr. Hype, and LaHover.

[12:32] And tonight I'm representing the LaHoverhouse Lands Club.

[12:36] We are going to be having a post-to-fest.

[12:39] And the post-to-fest is a benefit for the

[12:43] Senior Nutrition Program put on by the city.

[12:47] This program has been hit by sea crustration

[12:51] and their hot lunch program has been reduced from five meals a week to four.

[12:57] For many of our seniors, this is the only hot meal that they get a week.

[13:02] And so therefore, the Lions Club is putting on a posthusance to help out our seniors.

[13:08] And you're all invited. It is $20. It's on Saturday, February the 8th at the Community Center.

[13:17] So we hope you can make it.

[13:19] Are there any questions?

[13:22] I will.

[13:22] I'll be there.

[13:23] Thank you.

[13:23] If you want to give out a phone number case, people want tickets.

[13:26] I can give you my cell number.

[13:27] It's area code 7143226587.

[13:35] Thank you.

[13:36] I hope you can all come.

[13:39] Thank you, Vanna.

[13:40] Is there anyone else that would like to address the council tonight?

[13:43] on a non-agendized title.

[13:47] Thank you.

[14:00] Good evening.

[14:01] My name is Norman Zuvitch.

[14:02] I live on the 3rd Avenue.

[14:04] Just moved in three years ago, next month.

[14:08] Love it in La Habra, and I'm very, very pleased with where I am.

[14:11] However, I did find something slightly disconcerting about a year ago.

[14:17] The proposal, and I'm questioning, is that proposal still intact for building apartments

[14:24] between the railroad tracks and the south end of the properties on 3rd Avenue from Harbour Boulevard West.

[14:32] Is that part of the General Plan update, Mike?

[14:36] I'm sorry, would you repeat that piece?

[14:37] I was asking staff, I don't,

[14:42] I'm not sure.

[14:43] Harbour is a Cyprus or a Cyprus?

[14:47] That's correct,

[14:56] yes.

[14:56] Yes, Harbour is a Cyprus and a North side of the track.

[14:59] Certainly.

[15:00] Yes, Mr. Mayor, that piece of property actually, there's two parcels designated medium-density residential, and it's slated to be considered tonight.

[15:14] So sir, that is part of our agenda item. So when we come up to talk about the general plan update, that's the time you need to come up to me.

[15:23] It'll be this evening, yes.

[15:24] Thank you.

[15:28] It's anyone else, this is non-agendaised items. Yes, ma'am.

[15:41] Good evening. My name is Gladys Fetter, and we actually came for the Community Distant to me. I'm going to speak.

[15:47] We live on the corner of Sunset and Urna, and we have a concern. There's some apartments that are behind us on top of the community or our business.

[15:54] And we don't know where to go, so maybe you can guide us. There's a family or group of people that live up there that are constantly very loud.

[16:04] Sometimes, 10 to 15 people in and out, I call the owner because the sign is up there to be cooperating with us at all.

[16:11] You know, it's a family place in and out.

[16:15] The other day, the police were there, the paramedics taking a little child away.

[16:19] So, how can you guide us so that we can keep our neighborhood?

[16:22] I would like you to do.

[16:23] As Dan talked to Mike Hack, he's director of community development jurisdiction.

[16:28] So, give him your name and number and maybe he'll talk to you tonight.

[16:30] But you'll work on it for it.

[16:34] Thank you.

[16:37] Is there anyone else here tonight that would like to address the council?

[16:45] Okay, seeing that I will close.

[16:47] Public will go to the consent calendar.

[16:49] All matters on consent calendar are considered to be routine.

[16:52] It will be enacted by one motion unless a council member or member of the

[16:55] audience requests separate action or removal of an item.

[16:58] Remove items will be considered following the consent calendar portion of this

[17:02] agenda.

[17:03] Members of the audience will have the opportunity to address council

[17:06] remove items at that time.

[17:08] Speakers again must limit their comments to three minutes each.

[17:12] You can set the three on the audience agenda.

[17:15] Are there any items that staff would like to remove?

[17:18] No, it's mayor.

[17:19] Council.

[17:22] No, anyone on the consent calendar?

[17:25] No, number seven.

[17:27] Hang on a second.

[17:28] Is there anyone else who would like to remove an item?

[17:31] Motion is there second?

[17:33] and we're going to call the roll, please.

[17:36] Council Member Gomez?

[17:38] Council Member Espanosa?

[17:40] Council Member Shaw?

[17:41] Yes.

[17:42] Mayor Pro Tim Blaisey?

[17:43] Yes.

[17:43] Mayor Beamish?

[17:46] All right.

[17:46] Thank you.

[17:47] Then we have item seven.

[17:50] Staff report?

[17:51] Thank you.

[17:59] Good evening, Mr. Mayor.

[18:00] Council members.

[18:02] The side of here is we're asking for the city council to approve a cooperative agreement

[18:06] with the Onch County Transportation Agency for the Union Pacific Rail Line Bikeway Project.

[18:12] This agreement provides funding to the city so that we can hire and consult an environmental

[18:18] work for the bike trail that's proposed along the north side of the Union Pacific Rail

[18:25] Attracts. The funding is for a CTU will pay us for $153,000 in congestion, mitigation and

[18:33] quality funds. And the city will match on 68,000 from general funds. This concludes my presentation

[18:39] of the opportunity to answer any questions. Any questions for the council?

[18:46] No. Thank you.

[18:47] Okay. And at this time, I'll open the discussion in the public if there's any. Do

[18:51] have any questions, Bob? Thank you. Thank you. And I will and oppose the comments.

[19:03] Okay,

[19:04] to approve the item.

[19:05] It's for second.

[19:07] Please call the roll.

[19:10] Council member Gomez.

[19:11] Council member Shaw.

[19:12] Yes.

[19:13] Council member Espinosa.

[19:14] Yes.

[19:14] My vote 10 blazy.

[19:16] Yes.

[19:16] Mayor Beamish.

[19:18] Yes.

[19:20] At this time, we'll go to public hearings.

[19:24] This will be a duly notice public hearing.

[20:00] Hearing to consider an environmental impact report, General Plan 2035, 2014 to 2021 housing element and climate action plan for the city of La Habra.

[20:10] I would just mention before we go to the staff report, this presentation will probably take an hour or so.

[20:18] There are certain elements that are required to be discussed in public, so we're not going to push this along.

[20:24] And we're done, we're done, so to speak, and so I will call.

[20:29] Before we go for any further Mr. Mayor, I'd like to first of all abstain on any changes

[20:36] to the property located at 9-5-1 South Beach Boulevard.

[20:39] I have a conflict of interest there.

[20:42] So Brian, if you would tell me why it would be appropriate for me to leave the room

[20:46] or when I have to, and when we vote, my vote would not include that.

[20:50] It is also anything within 300 feet of my residence at 234 Pacific Avenue.

[20:57] I will not be voting on that as well because there are some changes on Cyprus.

[21:04] Well, I bring up a point now. All of us live within Lahabra.

[21:08] I don't think anything comes near my house.

[21:11] But is that something we need to abstain from on a general plan update?

[21:16] I think it's up to the council. I don't think it's necessary.

[21:19] But if that's council's priority, they certainly can do that.

[21:25] Say for them, sorry, I guess I could have stayed on anything around my house.

[21:30] Okay.

[21:31] I think in most cases, the any zoning changes that would occur in the general plan

[21:35] aren't within a three-door foot radius.

[21:38] Exactly, if you're home.

[21:40] So you shouldn't have a situation where you'd have to abstain.

[21:43] By my situation, we have a Cyprus.

[21:45] In your case, it might be my way.

[21:46] Right, effectively.

[21:47] So I'll be sure to let us know when Jim needs to do that.

[21:50] I would ask the staff who knows the agenda items better when they know that this particular

[21:55] It comes item comes out with the Council Member Gomez's address. Please please inform me as well.

[22:00] I will let you know.

[22:01] Okay. Thank you.

[22:02] All right. Staff report.

[22:06] So this evening we'll have members of the Community Development Department provide a staff report and a presentation and also our consultant support that was involved.

[22:15] The general plan process has been a culmination really of a three year process that interacted with a great number of people from the community.

[22:26] There was a GPAC committee that was formed.

[22:27] We have consulting support of consultants that are expert in the area of general plan development, plus our own staff.

[22:34] And what you see tonight is the culmination of their work and effort into this presentation and then the actions that we're going to ask Council to take later this evening.

[22:41] So with that Michael Mike before you get started. I got I want to ask a few questions before we go into this

[22:46] What I look in this entire process

[22:50] Miss Mayor Mr. Gomez council member Gomez. I'm sorry plan be Dan in July 2010

[22:58] It's been a three and a half year process to complete the document due to the desire to involve the public in this process

[23:06] So you made every effort to get the public involved in this process

[23:11] We did in the City Council did by creating the General Plan Advisory Committee, the community,

[23:16] business community who's responding in this effort.

[23:19] Based on those efforts, the committee was tasked to draft comprehensive General Plan

[23:24] document for consideration by the Planning Commission in City Council.

[23:27] So what were the outreach efforts made to get the word out to the public?

[23:32] What I'm getting at is tonight, we're here, we're going to be presumably approving the General

[23:37] plan and you know I don't want to be in a situation where somebody said why to her to exactly

[23:42] whatever it's made. Do you want to come up participate in this portion or are you comfortable?

[23:48] I'm prepared. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, this mayor, Council Member Regulman has four

[23:57] public workshops were conducted in notices replaced in all water bills and an attempt to reach

[24:02] every property in the city.

[24:04] In addition, planned website.

[24:07] Special ads were placed in the Lover Journal.

[24:10] An announcement was placed on cable channel three.

[24:13] Displayed on a continuous 20-ful minutes

[24:16] were made at the notices were placed in the Chamber of Commerce

[24:20] Newsletter and posters placed in local businesses.

[24:24] And each workshop, the public was reminded

[24:26] of the General Plan update website,

[24:29] thought and provided their email address was added to the General Plan website, MealingWist.

[25:00] So, from a staff standpoint, are you comfortable with every avenue we made to reach the information out to the public over the last three to half years?

[25:08] Yes. Thank you.

[25:12] So, let me then clarify something of what we're about here tonight.

[25:16] So, I would think the most questions or concerns of somebody had not received notice would be if there be in resumed.

[25:24] Tonight is not about taking action to rezone anything.

[25:29] It's to approve and update the general plan for the city, 2035.

[25:36] At a later time, which further notification will be made when we will yield

[25:41] to come before us to do zone changes.

[25:44] Will that be one master big zone change or will it be incremental a few at a time?

[25:50] We are handling Mr. Mayor.

[25:54] I think on the heels of tonight, depending on whether or not the City Council will approve the General Plan, staff is proposing that we fairly quickly return to the Planning Commission and then to the City Council with hard zoning changes that would be of minor in nature and I'll give you an example.

[26:15] We have a large area of, well, the center of our community where, which is pretty cohesive and fairly quaint now in its zone R2, which means you can build apartments there.

[26:30] And so, through the general plan process, the general plan advisory committee recommended that we downgrade that to an R1, which means it has to remain a single family property.

[26:42] That's one of the types of changes that we're bringing forward to implement the general plan.

[26:48] That's first phase.

[26:49] That'll be coming before you sooner than the larger general plan.

[26:54] Sorry, zoning code update, whereby we take a look at the document altogether.

[26:59] Remember, we're proposing that we have mixed use categories never before done in the community.

[27:05] We need to create development standards to do those types of things.

[27:09] to make sure the parking's there, the open spaces there,

[27:12] the facilities are there, et cetera, et cetera.

[27:15] The design criteria are there.

[27:17] That will take quite a considerable bit more endeavor

[27:21] and we're planning on hiring a consultant

[27:23] to help us out on that.

[27:25] That will happen, hopefully I'd like to get it back to you

[27:28] seven months from now.

[27:31] OK, then so if I may person that owns property in the city

[27:35] and I didn't hear that this was happening,

[27:37] which is possible. They can state that tonight, but they will have another opportunity

[27:43] through the Planning Commission process, City Council process, for their particular

[27:48] property that may or may not be resumed, correct?

[27:54] That's a difficult question. Tonight, you're going to be considering all the elements of

[28:00] the general plan that include the land use element, and that's what your question is focusing

[28:06] on the land use element changes in the underlying land use for those properties after

[28:16] tonight's action. Those uses technically become existing but non-conforming types of uses.

[28:27] While the public and the property owners may come to the planning commission on subsequent

[28:33] zone change hearing hearings. Those are relating to standards and implementation of the land use

[28:41] you're considering tonight. So it's important to understand that by approving this document

[28:48] tonight, it sets in play and this is tonight. This is not a 15 day and a 30 day review process.

[28:56] these are done by resolutions, and so by marking your approval on this general plan action

[29:04] tonight, that becomes the law of the city of La Habra.

[29:13] So how would someone go about trying to get that change?

[29:16] Does it possible to change that in future public meetings?

[29:20] Anything possible?

[29:23] Land use is flexible, which I would think would be through the planning commission in the

[29:28] Council. In this case, use your example if someone was opposed to a land use designation

[29:36] that we're the Council's considering changing to tonight. Sure, they have the option

[29:42] getting up tonight and speaking and asking the City Council don't do it. They can do that

[29:47] and you can, you can deny it or they can come back at a future date in time and request a general

[29:54] a plan amendment and a zone change to change it back to whatever land.

[30:00] And you stay feel is the type of land use that would give them their value.

[30:07] Well, and something to clarify tonight, if we're doing a change to the general plan update,

[30:12] doesn't necessarily mean that the homeowner has to or the property owner has to go and make those changes.

[30:17] No. So it doesn't mean that, hey, you know, if you're proposing, you know, higher density or sublight doesn't mean that it will be done or it has to be done.

[30:23] That's why the term existing but non-conforming is confusing.

[30:29] No, absolutely.

[30:30] Those uses are continued allowed to continue to loft,

[30:34] as long as they stay within the code requirements of operating under that land use,

[30:39] are allowed to continue adding finitum.

[30:42] As long as they cannot radically alter their use, expand their use,

[30:47] but they're allowed to continue to operate.

[30:49] And, lady, for example, tonight, we had that gentleman, the came up here who was concerned about the proposed project in the future of the change to the general plan.

[30:57] That will come back to the City Council meeting in a planning commission meeting in the future.

[31:02] And, at that point, he can discuss that he would oppose a project like that.

[31:06] That's absolutely important.

[31:07] That would be a proper place to voice that.

[31:11] At that point in time, yes. This is a general plan, not a specific plan. This is broad.

[31:18] So, in the clarify, in a non-conforming use, if you have a business, it's non-conforming,

[31:24] and you sell that business, the new owner can still utilize the non-conforming status.

[31:30] Our current code says that as long as you keep it in continuous operation,

[31:35] and don't let it last for one year period.

[31:38] So, you occupy that building, you continue operating a restaurant list.

[31:43] Are there any more questions before staff proceeds?

[31:46] If I may start it now, we may be here a while.

[31:50] I mean, the one comment I guess I'd like to clarify, Mike, is that the general plan itself is not a static document, correct?

[31:55] I mean, it's not the plan that's going to be in the same condition today, as it will in, let's say, 15 or 20 years, that through the general plan amendment process, changes can be made as the council deans necessary or as community standards deemed necessary for changes and projects for instance, correct?

[32:12] That's correct. Okay. You categorize it as a living document that we'll change over. I was as conditions change. Absolutely. Mike, don't we have to reassess it on like an eight-year period?

[32:23] No, actually we have to assess it every year. Okay.

[32:30] And report to the council and the state.

[32:36] Any other comments?

[32:38] Questions? No. All right. Mr. Mayor, members of the council. Thank you for your time tonight.

[32:43] I'd like to introduce what he tester who will take you through the rest of the staff

[32:47] presentation. Thank you.

[32:54] Thank you, Mayor. And members of the Council, it is a pleasure to be with you.

[32:59] Some people have described this as the long road that we're at the end of, but let me characterize it really is the long of an existing road

[33:07] and what you're about to embark on is a new road.

[33:11] And before you start a test interrupt, I would like to know how we want to handle questions. Do you have certain segments? You want to ask questions after you.

[33:19] Okay, well, either it's at the discretion of the council.

[33:23] There we are going to talk about these four components of the plan here tonight.

[33:27] If you would like to ask questions during the course of the presentation, please feel

[33:32] to interrupt.

[33:33] There are certain sections such as the overview of the general plan in a little bit longer

[33:37] than the other than, for example, the EIR, etc.

[33:40] But if there is particular point that you feel is appropriate to ask the questions, it's

[33:43] really your discretion.

[33:44] I propose that the mayor is used all this questions for the night.

[33:49] Good thing I run the meeting.

[33:52] That'd be great, because I think sometimes it's difficult at the end to go back.

[33:55] So we'll just do it as it is.

[33:57] In terms of the memory of what's going on.

[33:59] The period of place, we ask the question.

[34:01] You feel free to say, well, hold on five minutes.

[34:03] Perfectly.

[34:04] Let me introduce, I am going to be giving the bulk of the presentation.

[34:08] But I have with me a number of key individuals who also participated in the effort tonight.

[34:14] and will be also part of the presentations. Tracy Ferguson, withackens, is the person who's been

[34:19] focusing on the housing section of the plan and the housing element is one of the components

[34:24] of the plan that you'll be talking about tonight. Michael Hendrix, to Tracy's left,

[34:30] is the gentleman who is responsible for the third item on the bullets up there in the screen.

[34:34] The draft climate action plan, as well. Men's Al, from KOA Associates, a topic, of course,

[34:41] it has a lot of interest in the community, the component of traffic and transportation within

[34:47] the plan as well, and then finally down the row, Alonso Pettron from Alford Gobar,

[34:53] the Associates, the GIA Associates, when we talk about economic development dollars in

[34:59] That's the end of it.

[35:00] Who will be addressing that particular component character tonight as well?

[35:04] Would he before you carry on, if I may interrupt, for just turn it on.

[35:08] I hope please.

[35:10] Members of the audience, I chair the general plan committee over the last two and a half, three years.

[35:16] And as a consequence, you probably won't hear me ask very many questions,

[35:19] because as my fellow members who are sitting here know, I ask way too many questions during the course of those three and a half years.

[35:27] So I want you to know that I am very familiar with the plan over the course of that time.

[35:33] And in fact, what if you feel like an answer to a question, you may have them directed to me or to Rose,

[35:38] who also sat on the committee.

[35:40] I'm more than ready to do that.

[35:42] And to that end, I would like to add that it's been 24 years since we last updated the general plan.

[35:46] You'll probably reference this.

[35:48] This is a document that does need a frequent review and it's state requires us to rewrite it with some frequency.

[35:54] So it's been thoroughly reviewed and I want to thank all the members of the committee, some of whom are here tonight for the hard work that they put in on this.

[36:05] I also want to thank Woody and his staff for all the help that they've given us.

[36:08] I think our own staff needs some thanks to and particularly my CAC, Carlos Harmillo and Roy Rams,

[36:15] and who are sitting there and I know there's some other staff members too that have contributed.

[36:18] So I just wanted to make it clear that the Council has been involved with this at least at the level of two of us being part of this process.

[36:28] And I would like to thank Council member, Mayor Potem, Lazy, also for the standpoint that the English was significantly improved in the grammar through the course of the final documentation.

[36:39] and get a college professor for you as well.

[36:43] I might just add, for those of you who haven't seen it,

[36:45] this is part of it, so you see all my little notes here.

[36:48] So all of us have been engaged from one time another on this,

[36:51] and yes, the English was very good.

[36:54] Well, it's well done.

[36:56] I had a good material to work with.

[36:59] And because my eyesight is aging, I'm aging.

[37:01] I forgot to introduce two people also who are part

[37:03] of the plan, Nicole Morris, and Ryan Potter,

[37:07] from Planning Center, D.C.E., on that one other fat document called the Environmental Impact Report

[37:13] as well.

[37:14] They were the principal authors of that particular document, which you will hear from tonight

[37:17] as well.

[37:19] So again, as you see on the screen, there are four different documents that you will be considering

[37:23] in your actions tonight, and we're going to start with an overview of the general plan.

[37:30] Let me emphasize, at the beginning, it's grounded with something that the Council saw probably

[37:34] two years ago. It's really the preamble to the plan. It's actually something that you reviewed

[37:41] after the planning commission after extensive input from the public and that was a statement

[37:45] of a vision for the future of the city of La Habra. It talks about who you are, how you're going

[37:53] to grow, what the nature of residential neighborhoods and the commitment to preserve those important

[37:59] neighborhoods as assets of the community, it talks about a prosperous economy, it talks

[38:05] about if we're going to have a fully complete community, you are going to have those

[38:10] community facilities, the parks, the schools that indeed are going to support the residential

[38:14] neighborhood, adequate infrastructure and a commitment in your, indeed, a vision statement

[38:20] out protecting the natural environment.

[38:23] Mr. Hack basically summarizes, this is another information council member Gomez and the

[38:28] Minister of the Council, a list of, again, summary of the extensive public process that occurred

[38:35] throughout the meeting and the grade image there.

[38:38] We had over 300 people show up one night.

[38:41] So our attendance from the community interest from the community was substantially large.

[38:48] Also in there, second bullet from the bottom, just to remind you throughout the course of this.

[38:52] We also had a couple of times where we came together with you, the Council, and it's joined

[38:57] study sessions with a commission at key benchmarks of the planning process as well and these

[39:02] are described in the introduction of the document as well.

[39:07] The organization of your plan is a little bit different than the 2020 General Plan.

[39:13] Bottom line is you are required under state law to have seven sections of what the state

[39:18] calls elements.

[39:19] We have reorganized those and reorganized if you will want you called permissive elements

[39:25] under state law, to create what we call more of a topic orientation, so topics are grouped

[39:32] as well in this plan. And this is shown on page 1-21-23 of your document. There were

[39:41] basically, in respect to those vision statements, really they sort of metamorphized into three

[39:47] overarching themes for the planning process. One is the notion about having a community that's

[39:53] sustainable and often we miss an individual's miss interpret what that word means often people

[40:00] I think it's just strictly environmental resources, but the pure definition is stainably. It's a

[40:05] sustainable human being. It's even as a three-legged stool, each leg being equally important for

[40:10] the process. The second major theme is, and this is really in response to evolution of legislation, of the

[40:16] preparation of the plan, change, and reduction of greenhouse gases. And then, third community, I know

[40:23] something was very important to Councilmember Esfanoza, the notion of a human being, population,

[40:29] that is healthy, and how we improve the population when there's a lot of research now

[40:34] suggesting that incidents of disease and asthma is really challenging, indeed, the health

[40:39] of indeed, our communities as well.

[40:42] Basically, three overarching themes as well.

[40:45] Again, I'm sure most of the folks here in the audience are interested in the diagram of peer.

[40:49] this is the new land use diagram. It's presented on page 2-5 of the plan. And again, just to clarify

[40:58] what this picture is, it's a picture of the intended ultimate distribution of land uses by various

[41:04] categories by the year 2035. In looking at this and if you're to compare it to your existing

[41:11] diagram, what you've been seeing in this diagram are more discrete categories than you had back

[41:17] and some new categories, then you head back on the 2020 plan.

[41:21] And this is the list of categories you see here.

[41:25] Summerizing what the changes are from the 2025 plan.

[41:29] There was, you originally had on your plan categories,

[41:32] but not really on the map.

[41:34] A very low density residential classification,

[41:37] which is no longer applicable.

[41:39] Because no lands remain under that category

[41:41] or have been will be developed in that category in the future.

[41:44] It also makes one fine tune to a residential hide multifamily changes the category and raises the density by one unit per acre.

[41:55] Why you say that we make that kind of a fine tune tweak?

[41:59] Our economist here basically part of his charge was look at the reality of what the marketplace will support in terms of density given the land values.

[42:08] What is doable in the city of La Habra?

[42:10] But so we made that change in that density category to reflect that as well.

[42:16] And then to comply with both state housing law and the housing element as well as to provide

[42:22] additional opportunities based upon the market forecast that Mr. Petron is from dead.

[42:28] We also created some additional multifamily categories to provide a broader range of housing

[42:32] opportunities for the community, particularly at affordable levels.

[42:37] We also very importantly, on the top bottom three bullets, we looked at an question why some of the zones that you had in place today, some of the densities you had in place today,

[42:48] we're not accommodating the uses that you had envisioned back in the 2020 general plan.

[42:53] And one of the key concerns in the questions were were you providing sufficient density to create economically doable projects within the community.

[43:02] So there are recommendations for three the bottom three bullets and changes of the density,

[43:06] upping the potential densities, and certain commercial industrial and office categories

[43:12] to meet that objective as well.

[43:17] We also very importantly, and I believe Mr. Hat mentioned a few minutes ago, created opportunities

[43:22] for the intermixing of housing with commercial use.

[43:25] This is a whole new series of categories that do not and does not exist in the 2020 general

[43:32] plan. Fundamentally, they are intended to enable people to live close to where they shop,

[43:39] close to where they work, close to where they recreate. Most of the categories shown on

[43:44] this chart allow, basically, and there's been some confusion. And again, back to I think

[43:51] a question that Council had, it doesn't mandate that you have all of the uses on the property.

[43:57] It says you may develop a property for commercial, 100%, it can be a 100% residential, or it can be a mix of uses.

[44:07] And these categories are applied when you look at the map only at properties that have a current commercial designation.

[44:14] So that commercial designation doesn't go away, but it doesn't says we're giving you the opportunity to add housing to the mix.

[44:20] If you so choose, but you do not, it does not mandate the,

[44:25] indeed that particular use within the area.

[44:28] Just want to be very clear about that as well.

[44:31] In the central district, or what we call the downtown across the street from where we are now,

[44:35] there are certain mandates about percentage of retail uses, and I'll talk a little about that area.

[44:41] In terms of what this all shakes out, in terms of potential change area.

[45:00] You see, a vast portion of this graphic is white. Those are your residential neighborhoods, because the committee was very focused upon that basic notion that your existing housing neighborhoods should be protected.

[45:12] They should not be go back and bulldoze and change with either use or significant density changes within the area. So those areas are not colored upon this particular graphic, because indeed the notion was, let's not change out the use within the area.

[45:26] changes in those areas would be strictly limited to replacement of existing unit at current densities as maybe there today

[45:33] that are compatible with as buildings may age and maybe replaced over time.

[45:38] So indeed anything in those white areas would be complementary to what there is there today.

[45:42] The areas that are shown color down this map are either a change in the designation from the 2020 general plan or a change in density and

[45:51] I'm going to walk through these for you as well.

[45:55] Let me first start with Whittier Boulevard.

[45:57] You're going to notice on this and other graphics,

[46:01] a fundamental concept that was important

[46:03] out of the economic analysis.

[46:05] And that was the fundamental notion

[46:07] that has much better economically

[46:09] to concentrate development at key intersections

[46:13] because the long strip corridors are very shallow parcels

[46:17] that if you take a look at current codes,

[46:19] add parking requirements, add truck access.

[46:22] And the other things that are necessary

[46:23] to support commercial uses, it's not the kind of area on the shallow parcels where today in

[46:30] the regional marketplace that you're going to have a developer come in and basically make

[46:34] the investment to market. They are now looking at parcels that have scaled depth and if you

[46:40] will with in terms of their configurations. So what you're going to see here repeated as a concept,

[46:45] not only here and with your boulevard, but through a number of other locations is an ocean of

[46:50] concentrating the uses at the key intersections and a mix of the uses at the intersections

[46:55] and maintaining a lower intensity of use and possibly changing out some of the uses in between

[47:01] the area. So on what year of boulevard specifically we have the intersection of harbour

[47:05] and the intersection of beach boulevard shown for either a mixed use configuration or the

[47:11] intensification of retail commercial. With sections of the boulevard that either are designated

[47:19] for a mixed use or a residential designation, the purples or a mixed use, anywhere where you

[47:27] have this lighter tan color would be a residential designation as well. Bottom line just

[47:35] to again remind you and the audience at those intersection, it doesn't mean the commercial

[47:40] designation that is there today goes away. Just gives you the opportunity to add housing,

[47:45] which is not permitted and was not permitted until this plan occurred.

[47:50] Kennedy was there to say that if you have a commercial designation but it gives them an opportunity for

[47:57] residential that really adds value to that property.

[48:00] Yes. Very importantly, it does a couple things there. It provides additional value because we now

[48:07] find in the marketplace and our economists at the real marketplace right out now. We've had a

[48:13] of retail potential during this last recession.

[48:16] We also find that the demands are changing in retail pretty substantially,

[48:20] it literally as we speak.

[48:22] But there has been a healthy market for residential through this time,

[48:26] even through the recession.

[48:27] And now even more, so there is that healthy market,

[48:30] which adds value, indeed, years ago, 15 years ago,

[48:33] that wasn't the case in these kinds of areas.

[48:35] That is now the case out there in the marketplace.

[48:38] So I guess it's not countering to it, or maybe it is.

[48:41] that if we decrease our commercial footprint a little bit

[48:45] a little bit, and then increase our residential footprint,

[48:49] the existing businesses would tend to be more successful

[48:52] on the hook.

[48:53] They would benefit.

[48:54] So we wouldn't have a net loss of tax pay.

[48:56] In fact, our numbers, and I have one quick chart,

[48:58] we'll show you the numbers.

[48:59] You will see an increment of increase indeed of that possibility

[49:03] as well.

[49:04] And then there are other benefits without getting into, again,

[49:06] the detail, but in environmental analysis,

[49:08] your trip generation when you integrate housing with the retail on a per capita

[49:13] basis comes down, which is a good, is a beneficial impact to the transportation

[49:19] system, and is also a beneficial impact for those other new legislative

[49:22] requirements on greenhouse gas reductions, energy reduction, et cetera.

[49:27] So there are a series of, if you will, reverberating benefits that occur by that kind of

[49:32] mixing of uses as well.

[49:33] would be if I can interrupt to at this point. For example, in a place where you might see a higher

[49:41] multi-family residential marked on this map. For those in the audience, this is not mean that there

[49:47] is a planned project to go into that spot. It means that it would be allowable, but the project would

[49:53] still have to go through all of the checks and balances of the Planning Commission and the city council

[49:58] before that project could get built.

[50:00] So if somebody had a concern that you're putting too many stories on a building right next to my one story home, that would all come out later.

[50:08] Let me just clarify, without getting through all the, we have hundreds of pages in the document. There are policies in the plan.

[50:15] The very carefully say that when you have an articulated, when you have a higher density adjacent to a lower density area, and there's a diagram in the plan that you shall have a transition to building scale on height.

[50:26] So that you don't have a abrupt change of a three-story and a four-story and a one-story building.

[50:32] It transitions very importantly.

[50:34] I just wanted to make clear that this is not set in stone a project that all has to be proposed to the Council of Planning Commission, and it would go through a series of projects.

[50:43] Absolutely. And one other key point here again. Read of element has gone.

[50:47] So again, this all this does is create the, if you will, a permissive series of designations that the change for any change to occur, it comes at the initiation, not of the city, but it comes at the initiation of the property owner with a developer in hand.

[51:06] Well another key point to keep in mind also is that when these projects come forward, traffic,

[51:13] greenhouse gas, all that stuff has to be mitigated through the process.

[51:18] Yeah, and quickly in that respect, as we do have an environmental impact report on the

[51:23] totality of the plan, but you might consider that to be a 10,000 foot elevation.

[51:27] It's a citywide level doesn't get down to corner intersections, signalization, turning movements,

[51:33] and intersection, that would all come at that stage, indeed, of analysis.

[51:39] We're near Boulevard.

[51:40] We'll move on to pushing the one-run button here, Beach Boulevard, and again, we described

[51:47] the recommendation for a node here at a prettier Boulevard.

[51:54] There is also, again, the opportunity for one of the sites at Lambert for some intensification

[52:01] of that intersection and mixed use of that intersection.

[52:05] And then the one parcel that was discussed fairly lengthily with the committee is this is

[52:11] the bond site at Imperial Highway, Commercial, which we'll talk about later, but just north

[52:16] of the bond sites, there was a large parcel that historically had been designated as commercial.

[52:24] The property owner has expressed some interest in possibility of a residential designation

[52:30] with it within that area. So the committee looked at changing a category there to a mixed

[52:35] use, which would permit housing so described or commercial. And that again would be subject

[52:40] to again the further review and discussion to the commission to the council at that point.

[52:44] And that property in question, where is where the old Samsung church used to be, right? And

[52:49] so it's a vacant now except for the hotel. It's not in service right now.

[52:54] Yes, and again, I think one of the things I would like to emphasize that when we

[52:59] identify these nodes, again, if you look at them today, a lot of them are large surface

[53:04] parking lots, and with underutilized buildings in them, they were very carefully examined

[53:10] as a part of the process, to see truly where the opportunities rather than trying to

[53:15] indeed overlay something, as a use that's going to be there for an extremely long period of time,

[53:20] has a lot of economic value here today as well.

[53:25] So moving on to Imperial Highway, as I just mentioned,

[53:30] and this is basically, you'll see in the commercial areas,

[53:33] which you have fairly substantial commercial concentration,

[53:37] and then a smaller area over by the Walmart

[53:40] on the east side of Imperial Highway.

[53:45] These are areas that we actually increase

[53:47] your permissible flow area ratio or development capacity for the purposes of fostering higher

[53:54] economic activity. And it doesn't mean those uses would change out, but it really means

[53:58] it's on those surface parking lots that you might add additional pads for additional retail

[54:03] or other supporting kinds of commercial uses within the area. I will note, can you have had

[54:08] a written communication on this, this area that looks like cut out on the south west corner of

[54:16] and Imperial Highway was frankly an oversight.

[54:20] You had a letter from a individual in respect to requesting a change of use to the density

[54:28] that would be permitted on the joining property.

[54:30] It's now designated commercial.

[54:32] It was left at the current FAR.

[54:35] The request was to up the FAR comparable to the FAR that was being proposed for that site.

[54:40] And staff believes that that makes a reasonable sense, and it was not purposely left out from that standpoint as well.

[54:49] Excuse me, Mr. Mayor. This was one area I didn't want to bring up.

[54:54] We might have speakers to some of this area, but

[55:00] On the north side of Imperial, I took a call today expressing concern about this property on the north side of Imperial, just to the west of Euclid.

[55:10] Would we want to talk about that during when he's finished, Tom, or, see what I'm going to do.

[55:19] We'll wait till the presentation is done.

[55:21] Okay. A couple and actually, council member Shaw, a couple of other changes that I should mention here.

[55:26] This is the area that historically has been designated industrial and commercial industrial and I'll come back to that in a little a little bit later

[55:34] But again, the changes in this area is this is an area in the darker blue than currently is designated as

[55:42] Commercial only commercial does not allow industrial uses today

[55:46] Between here this is the railroad track and this is cypress so this area between the two

[55:51] The designation is recommended to be changed to a commercial industrial to enable, again,

[55:58] the commercial uses are allowed today, but also the opportunity for any of the expansions

[56:02] of, indeed, commercial properties that are to the north as a site into the frontage

[56:07] along Imperial Highway.

[56:09] So you can, the ability to create larger parcels of some scale that would accommodate

[56:14] jobs-generating kinds of uses.

[56:16] And the other change in this area is West of Euclid on the north side of the street.

[56:22] This is an area today that is designated for, I believe, commercial uses here today.

[56:32] It is a budget on the south by single family.

[56:34] Is it a budget on the north by single family?

[56:37] So it's like a slot in between the single family areas.

[56:40] And the committee looked at a modification of the use to a multi-family density

[56:46] designation comparable to the multi-family units that have been built and have been constructed

[56:51] to the west in this particular area, at the same density of those so it would be comparable

[56:56] and mimic indeed those kinds of uses within the area.

[57:02] Before you leave that page, on second.

[57:05] Got it.

[57:05] I don't we have can address his comments or questions that way staff can be prepared because I

[57:11] seem there may be some in the audience that would like to come up during public comments

[57:14] and talk about it, so we'll be prepared that way.

[57:18] The call I received indicated that the business owners to the north side of Imperial there

[57:25] were concerned about the prospect of being, I mean they would be legal, not conforming

[57:33] under this change, so they were concerned about future or ability to expand the business

[57:41] or, you know, and just the details that come along with being legal, not conforming and what

[57:47] that meant for them long-term in their future. So they seem, you know, to be valid concerns.

[57:54] So I just was going to bring that up and I didn't know what the discussion was at the committee,

[58:00] but just perhaps just putting it out there,

[58:03] having a mixed-used designation as opposed

[58:07] to just the residential,

[58:10] is something I thought maybe we could talk about,

[58:12] but, okay, my staff, why don't you just,

[58:17] you're not to get up.

[58:19] Just make a point of what Tim brought up,

[58:21] because we'll talk about this when we're done.

[58:23] It'll come back to this anyway.

[58:25] Well, I can only speculate who these business owners are.

[58:29] However, I do believe the land use designation is a mixed use.

[58:36] Designation or is it a, it's about a family risk?

[58:38] It is a straight residential.

[58:41] So yes, in this case, if the action were to go forward tonight,

[58:46] and this area was to redesign it residential,

[58:51] that these uses would be considered non-conforming uses,

[58:55] but I'll go back to my previous comments.

[58:56] that doesn't mean that they need to see

[59:00] so operations they can continue to operate lawfully

[59:03] as long as they want to.

[59:05] And that's in our codes today.

[59:07] And they expand.

[59:08] They cannot expand.

[59:10] Cannot.

[59:10] Cannot expand.

[59:12] They can.

[59:13] And even if their business was destroyed,

[59:18] if it's more than 50% of the valuation

[59:20] as it's earned by an appraisal,

[59:22] they cannot rebuild.

[59:29] clarification, it's devastating industrial today.

[59:31] I said commissioner.

[59:36] Well, look, I mean, should we talk about it later than when you said that?

[59:39] I think we can do that when we get to the public hearing.

[59:43] We'll probably come up again.

[59:44] That way is to everybody.

[59:45] We set the foundation for that discussion.

[59:50] Harbour Boulevard.

[59:52] We've talked earlier about the Twitter.

[59:56] And there's a note again, a higher intensity at LaHabra where we've got some bass.

[1:00:00] We can parcel there today, significance, as scale, as well. The other changes in this area, again, are

[1:00:06] the blue, which I did to talk about extensively before, are there than the frontage and

[1:00:10] long imperial. Again, this is an area where your current FAR, based upon a conversation staff

[1:00:17] has had with development applicants in the past, where you're limited in terms of the potential

[1:00:21] development scale that could occur in the area. So again, the recommendation was to increase

[1:00:26] for allowable for air ratio and provide opportunities for new jobs being developed within

[1:00:32] that area as well. We did have a letter from Richard and Betty Rutter. I believe it's the

[1:00:42] pronunciation of the name about a traffic signal as I indicated earlier to the mayor. That is

[1:00:47] a detail that would be dependent upon specific study at a particular future point in time and

[1:00:53] is beyond the scale of a general plan here as well.

[1:00:58] The Hover Boulevard, a lot of land uses obviously along the Hover.

[1:01:03] The real core of this is the whole fundamental notion to make a real damn town, the term

[1:01:08] that was used, the real center part of the city, building upon where we are here today,

[1:01:14] building upon the very pedestrian orientation of uses that are on the south side of the street

[1:01:20] right now, the buildings come up to the street there today.

[1:01:24] And what is different about this area from the specific plan is, again, that dimension

[1:01:29] of allowing housing within the area.

[1:01:32] Your current specific plan limits particularly in the core area.

[1:01:36] Your uses to commercial or office this plan creates a central district misuse category

[1:01:42] that would allow housing to be built, particularly on top of the lower level ground level

[1:01:47] retail to increase the customer base, the pedestrian activity within the area.

[1:01:52] It also, you have real here, adjacent to the railroad track.

[1:01:57] So it basically also increases residential densities between first and second here to

[1:02:04] a higher density residential, again with a notion of putting more people in the core of

[1:02:08] the downtown area, and then would convert the properties on the south side of second between

[1:02:14] and real and second, and indeed for residential, that is a current industrial designation.

[1:02:21] The notion was to flesh that out.

[1:02:23] See, would have a continuous large area of mixed use and housing within the area.

[1:02:29] I believe the gentleman that approached earlier was discussing this segment along the railroad area.

[1:02:36] This is an area that the committee looked at, and at the request of the property owner that suggested

[1:02:41] changing that to a multifamily use within that area as well. The other areas on

[1:02:49] shown on the map and purple are again that mixed use designation, commercial or

[1:02:53] residential within the area and then the yellow area where the areas, Mr. Hack

[1:02:58] mentioned earlier, the areas that today have that R2 designation, the

[1:03:04] primarily single-family detached units and indeed the concern was whether those

[1:03:08] be converted to apartments into the current designation so the recommendation was to reduce

[1:03:14] the category and the designation within that area.

[1:03:17] It still allows under state law a second unit to be built because you have state legislation

[1:03:21] that allows a second unit to be built on the property but what would preclude our apartments

[1:03:26] that would be the significance of that change.

[1:03:29] Yes, that would be appropriate to discuss like in this area since you wanted to create

[1:03:35] more mixed to use in pedestrian friendly area talking about like crosswalks and

[1:03:40] wider sidewalks would be when you actually go into the projects and start to

[1:03:45] Yes, we have when we get to the policies we have policies for the central district

[1:03:49] to call out that I'll refer to very quickly later in the presentation but there are

[1:03:54] policies there the talk about the design the pedestrian orientation streetscape improvements

[1:03:59] are ending to the street those are in the policy section of this plan that I'll refer to

[1:04:04] Thank you.

[1:04:07] See if I have anything else on.

[1:04:09] We had a property a request for a piece of property over here to change the designation

[1:04:19] and I may be wrong.

[1:04:21] It's 1700 West La Habra.

[1:04:23] It is a piece of property adjacent to a multi-family project.

[1:04:28] It's currently designated for a professional office.

[1:04:33] It's been redesigned in this plan to create continuity along the entirety of the block for multi-family

[1:04:38] since it's used to this adjacent to it, and there had been a request with some comments and concerns

[1:04:45] expressed in that letter about changing of land value.

[1:04:50] Again, as we commented earlier, today's market housing would have a much higher land value than a professional office categories,

[1:04:58] especially and isolated.

[1:05:00] On that side for office use, there was concern about traffic, just indicate that the traffic associated with the residential is less on that site than would be a tribute of a professional office, the trip generation factors.

[1:05:12] And thirdly, there was some concern about multi-family equal crime, and I don't believe there's any empirical evidence to make that correlation as well. So the staff recommends the residential designation and lieu of that professional office.

[1:05:26] On that piece of property, if I can think about it,

[1:05:30] that used to be the old AAA building.

[1:05:32] So there's a child care center in there.

[1:05:33] So you have houses on the east side.

[1:05:37] You have houses to the south.

[1:05:39] I think there's apartments in a senior building to the west.

[1:05:43] So with regards to traffic and all that,

[1:05:46] that business would be not conforming.

[1:05:48] So you can continue.

[1:05:50] Hey, or should you continue running it as a child care

[1:05:53] for however long they want?

[1:05:55] They could sell it as a child care and keep it going as a child care, so the only time traffic would enter into it is if they the owner decided to put in the residential units.

[1:06:06] And that would be mitigated at the time of the project proposed.

[1:06:09] And again, the request in the letter was to retain the professional office.

[1:06:13] So if they remove the daycare and replace it with the professional office,

[1:06:19] the trips associated with the professional office would be considerably greater than it did from the residential designation.

[1:06:24] Because traffic comes and goes all day long.

[1:06:28] Yeah, and the PM, it's AM and PM, peak trips.

[1:06:31] Yeah, that's significant difference as well.

[1:06:37] Okay, numbers.

[1:06:38] These charts basically then go back to the 2020 plan,

[1:06:42] existing 2020 plan and our 2035 plan to show you what it means in terms of

[1:06:49] development capacities.

[1:06:51] Here we are today, or a couple of years ago when the data was pulled together,

[1:06:55] There is an increase obviously in housing units and I'm going to come in by populations of looks less in a moment

[1:07:02] There's an increase in housing units again remind you 20 20 25. We have a 15-year different show

[1:07:08] So implicitly you're comparing apples and oranges in terms of years and the number should it match bottom line

[1:07:14] Why does the population go down the population goes down even though we have more residential units in that you have

[1:07:22] multi-family residential units, which have a lower occupancy numbers of people per bedroom and

[1:07:30] numbers of people per unit that have been projected for the 2020 General Plan.

[1:07:35] You still have an increase above where you are today, obviously, but again, just to remind

[1:07:39] us, it's less than what you would have under the lower densities because in higher density

[1:07:45] projects, all of our economic data says that occupancy is less per unit than it would be for

[1:07:52] the others as well.

[1:07:53] Similarly, we have a chart here to that basically.

[1:07:56] Or the change would it go to go to that?

[1:07:59] I can't read that green there.

[1:08:01] So what's the population in 2035?

[1:08:03] The population today is about 19,000.

[1:08:08] The population under 20,000.

[1:08:10] That's housing, what the on the population is?

[1:08:13] I can't read it either.

[1:08:14] Thank you.

[1:08:16] the population was about 61,000 under the 2020 plan, we're about 68, and we're about 75 under

[1:08:26] the 20, 35 plan. The difference in the bars are theoretical capacities.

[1:08:30] In all your mathematical modeling, is there a

[1:08:39] population level that's best for Lahawa, meaning

[1:08:42] and a lot of this would be perception, because population gets traffic and congestion, et cetera.

[1:08:47] But I would think, any city at some point, there's a number that you say we're overpopulated.

[1:08:54] Where is there such a number?

[1:08:57] I would say it would be hard to land on that number because it depends on the criteria you have.

[1:09:04] What we're finding in cities that have gone to a mixed use designation.

[1:09:09] And this is a very different city, but I just want to use it as a comparison.

[1:09:12] And I'm not going to use New York.

[1:09:14] We're going to use a Pasadena.

[1:09:15] You can use New York, my daughter-in-law.

[1:09:18] I'm not going to use New York.

[1:09:19] I'm going to use Pasadena, as an example.

[1:09:21] But again, it's a very different city.

[1:09:23] And why I'm using this Pasadena has had over the last decade

[1:09:27] a fair amount of mixed use development

[1:09:29] in the downtown area.

[1:09:31] There is now empirical evidence that they

[1:09:34] have run through surveys and traffic counts, et cetera,

[1:09:37] that the per capita trip generation

[1:09:40] has been reduced by 36 percent, then it would have been before. Why? Because what they've

[1:09:48] done through the mixes of uses and locating is not just the transit. It's the fact

[1:09:52] that they've located housing close to where your grocery stores are. You have out, you've

[1:09:58] created a mix of uses where you don't have

[1:10:00] We have to drive us far to get in your car for your coffee, to go to school, to get to your job, and it's

[1:10:07] that mix of uses. So we used to use trip caps, say that an ideal city is based upon the trips

[1:10:15] that are generated. But as the analysis shows us in our environmental document, much of

[1:10:20] the traffic impacts that are going to occur in Lahabra are due to the through trips, through

[1:10:25] what's happening in the region rather than what you're actually generating yourself.

[1:10:28] So, tripcap probably isn't the metrics anymore, so it's a really the question about community,

[1:10:35] character, and quality, and I think we hear very clearly that the city said they don't

[1:10:39] see themselves, every is a 20 story, 30 story environment, but two or three stories, that

[1:10:44] seat with discussions with the committee, that seemed to need me something that was palatable.

[1:10:50] And these numbers are within those ranges.

[1:10:53] So, for future projects, future councils, they can really look at the quality, the project,

[1:10:58] and against the densities, and if you have a higher density ratio, you can really adjust that

[1:11:05] based on the developer and the project they want to put in there. If it's based for 50,

[1:11:11] but you can have discussions, well maybe it should be 35 and or, and of course, some of this

[1:11:18] one on two, or I've seen some 50 unit of facilities that are really, you wouldn't guess they were

[1:11:26] that they are that dance design I come from if you don't know I come from an architectural

[1:11:31] training and I truly believe the power of design. Your members of your committee and members

[1:11:37] of your commission with staff took a field survey a few weeks ago and saw some examples

[1:11:41] of really good and well design buildings in Orange County and they pointed to them and said

[1:11:47] if we get something like that yeah that may make sense you can really create some very poor

[1:11:53] architecture and really create negative impacts upon the community.

[1:11:58] So ultimately, as you make judgments in the future, your commission and you make judgments

[1:12:01] in the future, I urge you to think very carefully about the quality of design because it really

[1:12:07] affects the quality of the end-of-value, ultimately, of development.

[1:12:12] So similarly, charts on commercial and industrial square feet and numbers of employees.

[1:12:17] And here's where you see bigger jumps in the numbers than we had on the housing.

[1:12:21] Why is that remember the basic premise that I mentioned earlier about the fact that the

[1:12:27] densities for some of the commercial and industrial areas are bumped up to indeed create

[1:12:32] economic opportunity for those jobs generating uses as well?

[1:12:37] So you see the comparisons here on on these charts.

[1:12:42] Okay, beginning then beyond the map.

[1:12:45] Again, we have pages, just addressing the goals, the written policies, and support, back

[1:12:54] to Councilmember Goldman's question about the central district and the policies about

[1:12:59] pedestrianism.

[1:13:00] This is where those policies lie in this section of the plan.

[1:13:04] I'm not going to go through these in detail.

[1:13:06] These are just bulletin topics of some of the areas that are considered the first section

[1:13:11] of the goals and policies in land use address what our citywide goals and policies for

[1:13:15] land use. So basically what that means is they apply regardless of location or regardless of

[1:13:20] use. They're overarching policies about the community in terms of the form, the quality,

[1:13:26] we talk just well now about well-designed buildings, about sustainable development practices,

[1:13:31] about such ideas as an equitable distribution of uses, so that there's no overloading of the

[1:13:37] bad things you have to have in a community in areas in the city, but there is indeed an equitable

[1:13:41] distribution of the good things like parks and schools and the other amenities that support

[1:13:45] the population as well.

[1:13:48] This section also sets development capacities for this plan, which is of a total of about

[1:13:54] a 4200 additional residential units and about 4.1 million square feet.

[1:13:59] What that says is over the life of this plan, those are your limits, but again, as you had

[1:14:03] discussion earlier with Mr. Hack, you have the opportunity to revisit this on a periodic

[1:14:08] basis well before you get to 2035 and take a look at the reasonable

[1:14:12] bonus of those numbers and whether indeed it makes sense to begin to adjust

[1:14:16] those over a period of times. The second major section then focus upon

[1:14:23] the policies for what are the places within the community.

[1:14:27] The neighborhoods of residential neighborhoods and as I said earlier we're not talking

[1:14:31] about change but we are talking about an aging housing stock so the policies focus

[1:14:36] on maintaining and make sure that as we go 10 years, 20 years down the line, that that housing

[1:14:43] stock is maintained as well, talks about the diversity of the various commercial districts

[1:14:49] and the various indeed districts within the community, and these are on page 213 through 236

[1:14:57] of your plan document as well.

[1:15:00] This is also in here where there are the policies about the downtown and the core and the importance of this pedestrian-oriented place and downtown Lahabra.

[1:15:09] Then the other key relationship to this, I'm going to ask Alonso to come to understanding the economic realities alongside.

[1:15:19] Yeah, that goes forward.

[1:15:21] Okay.

[1:15:23] Thank you. Mayor, members of the Council, my name is Alonso Padre, and it starts to the economic development component, which is the chapter two in the general plan.

[1:15:31] And since most people just two-not-one to hear the word economic behavior concept that would

[1:15:38] I use in terms of what we see as an all-state objective of the economic development component

[1:15:45] in the general plan.

[1:15:46] We need to gather independent, but interconnected objectives, okay?

[1:15:52] And by that, what I mean, an example on the bottom, we'll talk about this workforce engagement

[1:15:56] and what objectives we're dealing with.

[1:15:58] And from a business standpoint, most business operators want to be able to hire people

[1:16:02] if they want to readily available, supply a skill labor.

[1:16:05] On the lifestyle side, the individual household member wants to be employed.

[1:16:10] They want to totally independent objectives, but they're interconnected and the economic

[1:16:14] development seeks to bring that connection together as in the goals that relates to the work

[1:16:19] desengagement.

[1:16:20] The broader goal is to have a ready supply of qualified workers available for the skills

[1:16:25] that are demanding, and we've got to do that.

[1:16:30] It's the residents with a marketable workforce,

[1:16:33] jobs, skills, training, as every basic skills

[1:16:36] development for adults.

[1:16:37] So that's the whole development.

[1:16:39] Bring all these diverse objectives for economic achievement,

[1:16:43] bid on the individual level, the householder level,

[1:16:46] the business owner, the investor, even the city

[1:16:49] governance, and its fiscal necessities

[1:16:51] of providing services in the community.

[1:16:53] So that's what that's a check to do.

[1:16:54] So the economic development component, the general plan has divided into five areas, and it has

[1:17:00] to deal with the business environment, workforce engagement, real estate investment,

[1:17:05] lifestyle enrichment, and physical sustainability.

[1:17:09] And I'll just briefly go through these.

[1:17:11] Like I said, there's much more detail on the general plan regarding that, but this business

[1:17:14] environment, two main goals related to that is a diverseification of business within the community.

[1:17:19] not only able to withstand economic cycles, but also to provide residents with a diversity

[1:17:25] to purchase opportunities and job opportunities, and also a robust program, and that gets

[1:17:30] into the job plan.

[1:17:32] I said what exactly is a robust program to assist the track, but in a notion is to what that

[1:17:37] is.

[1:17:38] We're talking about attracting, retaining, and assisting businesses, so it's multi-faceted,

[1:17:43] and then the workforce engagement.

[1:17:45] We're talking about training and hiring programs for improved jobs skills, and also

[1:17:49] expanding the basic planning through target industries and in that we're talking about matching

[1:17:54] industries that matched well with the skill-based in the community, which the State's

[1:17:59] is showing has increased quite significantly over the last 15-20 years. Then the next one

[1:18:05] regards to, sorry about that, is the real estate investment? And basically what is, what is,

[1:18:20] development is tied to the use of property, and property is a very finite resource within

[1:18:25] the community.

[1:18:26] So your economic growth is linked to how you utilize the finite property resource that defines

[1:18:33] the Habra, and then also the provided incentives.

[1:18:38] And here we're not just talking about economic incentives, which may have been available under

[1:18:43] the old days of redevelopment that there's no longer available as we've known it, come

[1:18:48] to know it.

[1:18:50] But there's also incentives as relates to the process of securing entitlement, review, work

[1:18:55] and get to comply with regulations.

[1:18:58] And a lot of that means a quick approval process, because basically what I call that

[1:19:06] the head waters of this value attitude, time delays cost money can actually jeopardize the

[1:19:11] project by getting these delays in regulation.

[1:19:14] then lifestyle arrangement, which I was going to tell you, what are you talking about that touchy

[1:19:19] feeling.

[1:19:20] But I think one thing that event has pretty come through, that's the health care law that

[1:19:25] has come through is really underscored the hidden cost of lack of health in our system.

[1:20:00] So they said it's at the individual household level, and it hits at the business level through business productivity losses.

[1:20:08] And also the objectives that are lined out in the general plan is to instill lifestyle behavior that leads to a healthier citizen base.

[1:20:18] Leaves, altitudes of proven in children, higher test scores, higher educational attainment.

[1:20:23] So those are part of the goes that are within that.

[1:20:25] And so while someone might try and box that in is a touch and

[1:20:28] feeding thing, there is some real economic benefit to be achieved by

[1:20:32] obtaining a lifestyle enrichment, the health of your lifestyles within

[1:20:35] the community, so that's why it's concluded is one of the

[1:20:37] economic development components.

[1:20:39] And lastly, of course, fiscal sustainability, which I'm sure you

[1:20:43] all had to deal with over the last few years, as the cities had

[1:20:47] grapple with strained revenue sources and insecurity and basically how you say crisis at the state

[1:20:56] legislative level and its impacts at the local level and so one of those goals to advocate

[1:21:02] for legislation to secure more sustain is also to engage and balance budget practices

[1:21:10] which are looking at the city practices over the last year has been very effective and

[1:21:14] hard decisions have had to be made and sacrifices have had to be made at all levels to in order

[1:21:19] to be prudent and the use of the limited funding resources, but that again is underscored

[1:21:24] as another policy to move forward.

[1:21:31] Thank you.

[1:21:32] I'm going to go through some sections fairly quickly, especially this one, because Tracy is

[1:21:37] going to review this a little bit later, but we have incorporated within the body of the

[1:21:41] general plan, and the goals and policies from the housing element.

[1:21:45] Tracy will talk about the full housing element a little bit later.

[1:21:47] So I'm going to basically skip that section right now.

[1:21:51] This is a city rich with history.

[1:21:55] And indeed, there are policies in this plan

[1:21:57] about the protection for those historical and cultural elements

[1:22:01] that identify this city and provide identity to this city,

[1:22:06] as well as policies focusing on how one communicates the presence

[1:22:11] of those resources to the children in this community

[1:22:13] and the messages to people who live outside of the community

[1:22:17] about those historic and cultural parts that comprise the city of Lahabra as well.

[1:22:24] Very importantly, also there are policies about community identity on pages 251 to 256,

[1:22:32] and as we define identity, there are two really contributing elements. There are the physical

[1:22:38] elements that provide identity such as the places or entry signage or other kind of iconic things

[1:22:45] visually evident to someone who comes into to the city and then equally important about

[1:22:50] the identity of this city. Something that I noticed very clearly on your city's seal right here

[1:22:56] on the lectern is something that says, our caring community. And indeed the reputation of

[1:23:01] Lahabra as a place that where people care about each other, the programs, the services, etc.

[1:23:07] And indeed that is reflection in terms of building upon those policies for the future of the city as

[1:23:14] in this plan. There is a section called the growth management element. And if you look at

[1:23:22] your existing plan, you're going to see a lot of policies in that section, a lot of text.

[1:23:28] You're not going to see a lot of text in this growth management element. Why? Because when

[1:23:33] you read the policies in the 2020 element, they're identical to policies in the circulation

[1:23:39] and policies in the land use element and other elements of the general plan.

[1:23:45] This element has been prepared previously and is updated here to comply with Orange

[1:23:49] Counter-Emeasures M and M renewed, which is a source of potential transportation funds for

[1:23:56] the city of Lohabro.

[1:23:58] And in that document and the requirements to have a growth management element from the county,

[1:24:05] There are five basic topics that they require to be addressed, facing community development,

[1:24:13] traffic, traffic, a couple of times in public facilities plans, and what you're going

[1:24:16] to see in your document here is it's like a table of contents with a reference to the

[1:24:21] policies in this plan that carry out and meet those objectives for the growth management

[1:24:26] plan itself.

[1:24:28] Obviously, a key of growth management is transportation.

[1:24:31] Good

[1:24:39] evening.

[1:24:40] Good evening.

[1:24:40] My name is Minjou.

[1:24:42] I am the principal traffic engineer for the general plan update effort.

[1:24:49] The slide show you here is our proposed future functional classification for city of La Habra.

[1:24:57] As you can see, they are about to start.

[1:25:00] 7 categories of roadway functional classification.

[1:25:10] We did very thorough analysis for the whole roadway system.

[1:25:16] We used the OCTA traffic model, which is traffic demand forecast model, to forecast the future traffic need.

[1:25:26] traffic volume, obviously based on the proposed land use, which Woody mentioned before

[1:25:33] him. And our analysis, we conducted the existing traffic

[1:25:39] come as well as a future analysis. Based on analysis, here's the very overall conclusion

[1:25:48] here. For the roadways segments, actually there's all the roadways segments

[1:25:54] are expected to operate at a acceptable level of service.

[1:25:59] No improvement on needed.

[1:26:02] There are only two major intersections need improvement.

[1:26:07] The two intersections are Beach Boulevard at Imperial Highway.

[1:26:13] Another one is Walnut Street at Imperial Highway.

[1:26:16] Those are primarily due to the regional traffic growth

[1:26:21] on impure highway.

[1:26:24] The quick question before you move on the slide.

[1:26:27] Do you want to go back?

[1:26:29] So, operated acceptable conditions.

[1:26:32] So, what level of service are you saying is acceptable?

[1:26:36] It depends upon what roadway.

[1:26:39] If that roadway is the stay highway, which is called trans roadway,

[1:26:45] then the level of acceptable level of services is E.

[1:26:48] But if it's local, it's sitting on roadway.

[1:26:53] It's level service D.

[1:26:55] E, which is fair.

[1:26:57] Yeah.

[1:26:58] I mean, the level of service is from A to F.

[1:27:01] A is the best.

[1:27:03] F is the worst.

[1:27:06] Thank you.

[1:27:10] For the improvement, we also run some improvement.

[1:27:14] Measure improvement measures.

[1:27:17] for the beach below an impure highway.

[1:27:20] The proposed impure is to construct a four-source

[1:27:25] bank and four-thousand-thousand-thru-ling in order

[1:27:28] to improve the level of service.

[1:27:31] For one not straight at impure highway,

[1:27:34] we propose to install a traffic signal.

[1:27:36] I just want to make sure people understand,

[1:27:38] this is for the long-range conditions.

[1:27:41] Not something you have to happen right away.

[1:27:44] It's for the two or 35 condition.

[1:27:47] That would have to go to Cal Fransal, right?

[1:27:50] If you're highway.

[1:27:51] If your highway is culture now.

[1:27:52] Are you also proposing a crosswalk there?

[1:27:56] Crosswalk for the intersection.

[1:27:58] Hold it in Imperial.

[1:27:59] Yes.

[1:28:00] Crosswalk in signal.

[1:28:01] Signal.

[1:28:03] Signal, console, crosswalk.

[1:28:05] South Cal Trans has to do it.

[1:28:07] We should start now and then by 2030, five.

[1:28:15] I think there's an urge you go to talk to them right now.

[1:28:23] In addition, we also found there are about four intersections need improvement.

[1:28:31] Those are majorly due to the local land use changes.

[1:28:36] The intersections are idle hostry at Weedier,

[1:28:40] Hover Boulevard at Weedier,

[1:28:42] Cypress at Lamber, and Palm Street at Lamber.

[1:28:46] We also look into what's the improvement.

[1:28:49] We need to propel for those locations,

[1:28:52] for the potential improvements.

[1:28:56] Here are the general notes for our city-wide

[1:28:59] circulation system.

[1:29:01] We want to make sure our circulation system

[1:29:04] is inconsistent with the land use.

[1:29:06] That's why we use the model, the model,

[1:29:09] the input of the model is the land use.

[1:29:11] The proposed land use generates the need

[1:29:14] for the future, your future roadways system.

[1:29:18] Our policies also look into not only

[1:29:21] for vehicle circulation, but also for the non-modal transportation

[1:29:25] or turnative transportation system,

[1:29:27] including the public transit, the bars,

[1:29:30] and the bicycle facility and pedestrian facilities.

[1:29:34] We also looked into the goods movement.

[1:29:37] Make sure your truck routes has many more impact

[1:29:41] to the neighborhood, to the residential areas.

[1:29:47] Transportation, the management, the mix use

[1:29:50] would talk a lot about mix use.

[1:29:52] That's the great way to reduce traffic.

[1:29:56] We have policies for that.

[1:29:59] And we're off.

[1:30:00] So, our policy, make sure our city's circulation system is consistent with the Orange County Sustainable Community Strategy.

[1:30:12] The Orange County has their own MPH, master plan of Ontario Roadway. We want to make sure our system is consistent with your neighbor cities.

[1:30:22] We also have a policy for the Neighborhood Traffic Management Program.

[1:30:28] Make sure propels policies for traffic coming speed reduction.

[1:30:34] We also have policy for intelligent transportation system for your signal,

[1:30:38] signal synchronization, your communication system for all the signals.

[1:30:44] And parking obviously propels parking efficient parking management and re-man.

[1:30:52] So we could give you questions. So trip reductions through land. So are we reaching out to the new residents moving in the town?

[1:31:02] Because as I look at that, where I live on the northeast part of town, you're not going to get me to walk over the west ridge or to downtown Fahabra.

[1:31:14] I would probably drive my car.

[1:31:16] So are we going to come out?

[1:31:18] Or does this really mean you're trying

[1:31:19] to get everyone in the hybrid to walk more?

[1:31:30] I should say, a lot of quantitative analysis

[1:31:34] is based on to capture the mix.

[1:31:37] So that's in terms of the analysis, the pedestrian, the biking,

[1:31:43] that really, we look at the other cities example.

[1:31:48] You know, so the design, the tool dream, how do you promote the buys?

[1:31:54] I'm not sure I

[1:31:55] I just want, you know, think about that because as I mentioned my daughter went to school in New York because they could walk

[1:32:02] in a mile to just better everything

[1:32:05] Right here, we're even else rich and then back with

[1:32:09] Armed fulls loads of things so why you have to cross the street we are looking at for instance interest of time

[1:32:16] your signal time zone you have refugee area waiting for the traffic so those are the

[1:32:21] tool backs we've I think it's a difficult goal to obtain you know if you don't mind I

[1:32:28] might mention starting a bus service in La Habra is a circulator route that they can go along

[1:32:36] way towards addressing a lot of the will tie we will connect us down to the down harbour to the

[1:32:40] to make any statistics on what could be?

[1:32:45] Oh, I don't know.

[1:32:47] Reality of mixed use and the transportation

[1:32:49] of man management really means by let's say,

[1:32:52] as shopping center, commercial area, mixed use center,

[1:32:54] you would park walks and you'll be able to actually just park once.

[1:32:57] It's a park once kind of concept that enables you to patronize

[1:33:01] if you will multiple business and same location.

[1:33:04] So it's not 100% written, it's a marginal reduction,

[1:33:07] but it is a reduction in trips.

[1:33:09] Thank you.

[1:33:11] The not going back to that, we were there.

[1:33:14] There are a section of the plan dealing with all of the other systems, the backbone systems that support the uses within the community, all what we call it.

[1:33:24] What the policies basically do is look at mid that.

[1:35:00] Housing, as you add the retail, the industrial uses, et cetera, that you're going to have adequate facilities.

[1:35:06] You're going to have enough capacity in those systems to, indeed, accommodate those uses as they grow over the time.

[1:35:12] For some of these also, there's some discussion and policies about how the financing occurs.

[1:35:17] And then also very importantly, on some of these, particularly given recent state mandates, the movement towards more greenable, greenable, new term, green and sustainable kinds of strategies.

[1:35:27] We're in a water crisis, we now know in the state of California, indeed those policies

[1:35:32] deal with some address, some of the strategies, to begin to think about conservation

[1:35:37] of those as well.

[1:35:39] The next section of the plan chapter five is basically looking at, we talk up to now about

[1:35:45] that built, all of the stuff that's built out there, the flesh and the body, and the skeleton

[1:35:50] that body has.

[1:35:52] We also recognize the part of the communities, indeed, the open spaces and the parks.

[1:35:56] that comprise the community as well.

[1:36:00] There are some basic policies in this plan

[1:36:03] that recognize the need to provide additional park land

[1:36:06] as you grow.

[1:36:07] If you have additional population,

[1:36:10] well, how do you do that?

[1:36:11] If you don't have land,

[1:36:13] you don't have 50 acres, 100 acres of new land

[1:36:15] that you can go out and build a park on tomorrow.

[1:36:18] So the whole notion of creative ways

[1:36:20] of providing additional park lands

[1:36:22] integrated in with some of these mixed use projects

[1:36:25] of what we call pocket parks or parklets and other kinds of strategies that are being used

[1:36:30] to provide that.

[1:36:31] We do have one major opportunity that was identified by the committee, the railroad

[1:36:36] right away.

[1:36:37] And the opportunity to then use the railroad opportunity as that green spine, either jointly

[1:36:43] with the railroad or should that railroad be abandoned over time or relinquished over time

[1:36:48] and greed enhancing that with connectors into that corridor, because it does separate the

[1:36:53] community, effectively north-south, and, et cetera, so it has the opportunity through the

[1:36:58] greening and the additional amenities that could be developed in that over time, it could

[1:37:02] heal and would re-night the community in many respects, so with a different

[1:37:08] diversity of park types and policies about the funding and, again, as you see here on

[1:37:13] the slide, the trail system as well.

[1:37:16] In addition to parks and of the infrastructure, we have schools, police, libraries, all of the other kinds of facilities.

[1:37:26] Like infrastructure, the policies again succinctly and simply basically direct that as we grow,

[1:37:33] that you have adequacy of all of these over time that they're funded and they're accessible and available to the residents of Lahabra as well.

[1:37:42] Then we deal with that other component of the environment, the natural environment, beyond the

[1:37:48] built parks, et cetera, and their policies, addressing these topics, and essentially

[1:37:53] conservation of those natural areas that remain within the community, conservation of

[1:37:59] your watershed areas.

[1:38:01] You have federal requirements on discharge into water bodies, water chain, et cetera.

[1:38:06] there are policies addressing climate change and air quality.

[1:38:11] And essentially when we talk about air quality and climate change,

[1:38:15] the benefits and improvements in those come from how you develop your land uses.

[1:38:19] If you're able to reduce vehicle trips and use green building technologies

[1:38:23] through the new California Green Code, you're making great progress

[1:38:28] in terms of achieving these objectives on air quality and climate as well.

[1:38:34] And then again, the notion of you do, particularly from the edges of the city, has significant

[1:38:40] evu-sheds down from your roads.

[1:38:42] As you come into the city, it's on the cover of your general plan, and indeed the protection

[1:38:46] of those important evu-sheds from public places as a part of the policy.

[1:38:51] The other side of the dime, the policies I just talked about are what I might call technically

[1:38:56] the goodies out there that you want to protect.

[1:38:58] You also have the baddies, the things you want to protect human life and population from,

[1:39:03] the risks of earthquakes and wildfires and other kinds of hazard as well and so you have policies

[1:39:10] addressing indeed the protection and safety recognition of those resources as well as continuing

[1:39:16] a very robust program of emergency services both from the standpoint of preparation and response

[1:39:22] in the event of a major event and then finally in the section you also have the issue of noise

[1:39:27] and compatibility of uses and the plan basically incorporates the noise contours that are

[1:39:33] require by state law as well as indeed the standards for compatible land uses within this

[1:39:38] noise contour areas as well. And then finally, the city also has been really at the forefront

[1:39:45] in many respects of managing hazardous waste and protecting indeed uses, et cetera, and responding

[1:39:51] to the concerns about hazardous waste. And in fact the policies in the plan mimic if you will

[1:39:56] and build upon those policies you've had in place for a number of...

[1:40:00] We're talking about a few years about protection of health and safety of the residents, et cetera.

[1:40:06] Would he before we go on? I'd like to call for about a five minute break. My colleagues would like that, which I would anyway.

[1:40:14] I will take five minutes break.

[1:40:15] I would also appreciate it.

[1:40:16] All right. Five minutes. There.

[1:41:45] Yeah, it was a...

[1:41:46] Well, friends, they went there.

[1:41:51] Yeah, it was, yeah, I didn't mean it.

[1:41:54] This is what I'm hearing.

[1:41:58] It was always important groups.

[1:42:00] I was always...

[1:42:05] No, no, no.

[1:42:06] Sorry.

[1:42:07] But if a parent sent me a new group shot,

[1:42:09] I got a group shot.

[1:42:11] So even they ran out of money,

[1:42:13] or they guys, they only released.

[1:42:15] I probably think it's so bad.

[1:42:17] So they got a group of work.

[1:42:28] Yeah, yeah, at least it's smooth, that people will try to use it.

[1:52:30] In the interest of time, since we have, I'm sure, have a lot of people who would like to speak. I'm going to try to get through some material pretty globally. And if you have any questions, just please feel free to, we can answer them later. Chapter 8, we're at the really the end of the general plan, part of the presentation, is the section of the plan. This is the roadmap of actions that carry out the plan. Just a couple of things I do want to say about the implementation manual. One is implementation can change annually.

[1:52:59] You have budgets to change annual basis, you have new programs to get into place on an annual basis, et cetera.

[1:53:06] And the key introductory text to the implementation section indicates commitment to review it on a continuing basis to update it.

[1:53:16] And very importantly, when you want to your action standard, and the general plan is to have a secret coverage, you have to have actually an EIR document for approval of the general plan.

[1:53:26] And what we have done is written this in a way that, as you amend the implementation programs,

[1:53:32] annually or whatever sequence that you continue to amend them, it's structured so you

[1:53:37] do not have to go back and do full-secret coverage over those amendments.

[1:53:42] So that's a very important, this goes back to the question about a living and breathing document

[1:53:46] to enable you to adjust the plan over time, rather than being locked in and to respond

[1:53:52] to changing economies and conditions.

[1:53:53] And that's what I was going to address with regards to the living document.

[1:53:57] So if we have somebody that really has an issue with the change and zoning, it would take

[1:54:04] an amendment to change that back to what it was, but that would can be through whatever project

[1:54:11] or some point in times we were using this.

[1:54:13] And we can really review this every month if we want to.

[1:54:16] The state law enables you to amend the general plan four times of year.

[1:54:21] four times a year frequently you can except for affordable housing affordable housing projects are

[1:54:26] excluded you can amend it daily if you want to for affordable housing projects but but you are basically

[1:54:32] four times a year now that doesn't mean for different sites for different projects you can group if you will

[1:54:38] actions it's just the timing is a key to four times a year so that's what I was going to clarify so

[1:54:44] quarterly say we could have a meeting and make ten changes if we wanted absolutely is there any point where

[1:54:50] then does not become the 2035 plan update or because it's a living document it still is still just and again that's why we tried this I say implement

[1:55:00] We wanted to make sure, actually, and it's good to have an annual review to just scan it to sort of do

[1:55:05] yourself a report card? Where do we stand? Is it working? There's so much it's new in here.

[1:55:10] That's going to be an important test for you to come back periodically and review.

[1:55:14] Only other things I'll say, I'm not going to go through this. These are the components of actions in the implementation manual.

[1:55:21] And indeed, the other components of this is you see that there's charts in the general plan that have time frames adjusted.

[1:55:28] Your term means basically the things that you really have to do some of these by state statute to carry out the plan once it is adopted.

[1:55:37] For example, normally the state will give you from about a year to 18 months to update the zoning ordinance for consistency with the general plan.

[1:55:46] So that's a near term action.

[1:55:49] The other actions shown under there are a lot of things that you're doing on a daily basis today.

[1:55:53] they will continue. And then others that will be at your discretion, such as the mid-delong

[1:55:58] term, as funding is available. We really haven't paid it to a time frame. It's as you

[1:56:02] have funding and as you prioritize it. If the city should that be an important priority for

[1:56:07] you as well, and your own goal and priority setting as a community itself. I won't go through

[1:56:13] these. I just said earlier, there were actions that you have to enact immediately within

[1:56:19] the first three to so years, this is the list of those items that you have to indeed follow

[1:56:25] through and carrying out the general plan, including the zoning ordinance that I had talked

[1:56:29] about there.

[1:56:29] The way is mid-term five to twenty years and the year term, less than five years, go back real

[1:56:35] for one.

[1:56:35] Briefly, as the category is, the near-term, or as you run a five, and you're doing it, continuing

[1:56:41] a periodic is, you know, you have to do that, housing element every eight years, kind of thing.

[1:56:45] And the mid-to-long term is five to twenty-two whenever.

[1:56:54] And this is just samples.

[1:56:58] There are two appendices.

[1:56:59] We mentioned earlier.

[1:57:01] There are indeed themes about climate change.

[1:57:04] This is important to satisfy the state statutes.

[1:57:08] Now on climate change, AB 32, SB 375, et cetera.

[1:57:12] And what we have given you is basically a page that if you see here on the bottom

[1:57:17] and those charts are references to all of the policies in your plan.

[1:57:21] It's a checklist, a policies that carry out the statutes and carry out the strategies

[1:57:27] to address the issues raised by the climate change legislation as well.

[1:57:32] And similarly, we have a similar series of charts and appendix B for the healthy and

[1:57:37] issue of communities, et cetera.

[1:57:41] Thank you, Rose, for helping us move into this direction on this plan as well.

[1:57:45] Et cetera.

[1:57:45] So that concludes the general plan and Tracy is going to give us a brief overview of the housing

[1:57:50] element.

[1:57:53] Mayor, council members, my name is Tracy Ferguson.

[1:57:55] I'm a project manager with Atkins and primary author of the, uh, where's the clicker?

[1:58:02] Clicker?

[1:58:03] Yeah, I want you to invest.

[1:58:04] I want you to invest.

[1:58:07] Of the 2014, 2020, one housing element update.

[1:58:11] This is an eight year cycle update as Woody mentioned, um, the housing element is required

[1:58:16] by California State Law as part of the General Plan.

[1:58:20] It's a comprehensive statement of both current and future housing needs.

[1:58:24] It guides housing decisions in this city, including affordable housing to lower income

[1:58:29] households, minimizes impediments where possible to the production of affordable housing.

[1:58:36] And it's tied to the city's eligibility for various housing loan and grant programs.

[1:58:42] this for example, community development block grant programs and home funds.

[1:58:49] The contents of the document, it has six chapters, with an introduction, overview of housing

[1:58:55] element state law, purpose, public participation activities that occurred during the process.

[1:59:01] Chapter two is the needs assessment, this is really the city profile, demographics, it's

[1:59:06] really the background setting, existing conditions of housing within the hub, we go then

[1:59:12] housing resources chapter three, which identifies the land suitable for residential development

[1:59:19] to meet the regional housing needs accommodation. Chapter four is housing constraints,

[1:59:25] both looking at governmental and non-governmental constraints, then on to the review of the

[1:59:31] previous plan. So the housing element always looks to the previous programs and policies,

[1:59:37] analyzes those and includes a table of progress, which is a report of accomplishments and such,

[1:59:45] within that, the city then decides if they like to continue programs, modify them, or delete them.

[1:59:52] Then the last chapter, chapter 6 of the plan is the housing goals policies and programs,

[1:59:59] which will...

[2:00:00] We'll be undertaken during the eight-year projection period. There is also an appendix which discusses further

[2:00:06] the public participation activities. Housing needs. So this is the fifth cycle of the housing element.

[2:00:16] And every city is dulled out their regional housing needs allocation. And so for this fifth cycle for the city of

[2:00:29] reflected as one and every category, basically, then we do have a Rina Roll over, which was from the prior cycle where a program was chosen to be deferred due to the housing element being adopted in September 2011 from the previous cycle, and because there was a concurrent general plan update going on, that this program was deferred.

[2:00:56] So we roll over 76 units. All lower income units that equals a total rena of 80. So that's what

[2:01:03] the city needs to accommodate 80 units. You see there 78 in the lower income and two in the

[2:01:11] moderate above moderate.

[2:01:14] So how do you accommodate this rena? You look to vacant sites within the community

[2:01:18] and a city of the harbor. You have identified four vacant sites reflected on this map. One

[2:01:25] there along Beach Boulevard, near Imperial,

[2:01:28] one up in the Northern City limits along Harbor,

[2:01:31] and then two in the Central City,

[2:01:33] south of La Haber Boulevard.

[2:01:37] Here is how the vacant site inventory

[2:01:41] sites one through four layout,

[2:01:43] as far as accommodating the rena,

[2:01:46] you see there that sites one, two, and three

[2:01:48] are all projected to accommodate

[2:01:50] to moderate above moderate income

[2:01:53] And, site 4, the largest site at 9.97 acres, is a designated there for lower income units.

[2:02:01] That equates to a total of 356 at the end.

[2:02:06] So, you look down to the rena surplus.

[2:02:09] It's basically 356 minus the 80, and you have a total of 276 units in surplus.

[2:02:16] So, you definitely accommodate your rena, basically more than accommodate your rena.

[2:02:22] All right, let's get into the goals and policies.

[2:02:25] You have three overarching goals with supportive policies and programs within the housing element.

[2:02:30] The first goal relates to new housing, so adequate housing development by the private sector utilizing both community facilities and structures, minimizing environmental hazards and incompatible uses, enhancing quality of life as we discussed to meet the economic social health and transportation needs of all citizens.

[2:02:49] the associate of policies and programs there, not going to walk through all of these necessarily,

[2:02:54] but integrated strategy for development. You want to provide housing types,

[2:02:59] both market and non-market, so you need to get to your affordable housing units. The jobs

[2:03:04] housing balance that definitely blends to the economic development side of the plan and consistency

[2:03:09] with that element, exploration of inclusionary housing, which, again, gives you your affordable housing

[2:03:15] and now the introduction of the mixed use designation also

[2:03:19] lets itself to affordable.

[2:03:21] Second goal here relates to housing maintenance and conservation.

[2:03:25] Definitely one of the principles within the housing

[2:03:28] element coming straight out of state law,

[2:03:30] maintain and conserve housing.

[2:03:32] That's bottom line.

[2:03:33] You want your neighborhood's decent safe and sanitary conditions.

[2:03:36] You want adequate facilities.

[2:03:38] And the like just letting itself to a better quality

[2:03:41] of life for citizens in the Hovera,

[2:03:43] pauses and programs there.

[2:03:44] look to protection of existing single-family residential areas, again, compatible to land use

[2:03:52] element policies, involvement of residents and organizations, the Hover is a caring community

[2:03:58] that echoes, adequate sites for the rena, you want rehabilitation and home improvement,

[2:04:04] assistance for low-income households, preservation of affordable units, so the affordable units

[2:04:09] you have in the city right now you want to keep them and inclusion of energy conservation measures

[2:04:16] in new and existing housing.

[2:04:18] The last goal relates to housing assistance and balance.

[2:04:22] So this is the equity portion of it, adequate housing opportunities for all economic segments

[2:04:27] of La Habra regardless of race, color, age, origin, religion, sex, familial status, or disability.

[2:04:36] What we're looking at there relates to equal housing opportunities, prevention of housing

[2:04:42] discrimination, provisions of housing for supportive of special needs groups, including

[2:04:48] the homeless, you know, female heads of single female heads of household is a special

[2:04:53] needs group, so looking at daycare services for that demographic in particular, job training

[2:04:58] for residents back to economic development.

[2:05:00] Amendment, and consistency there, and then home ownership assistance for low and moderate income households.

[2:05:08] In conclusion, the housing element was submitted to HCD, as you recall, for the 60 day statutory review.

[2:05:16] HCD did provide the city of La Habra, a letter, and that letter did indicate that the current housing element as presented to you tonight is in compliance with housing element state law.

[2:05:30] And if the city were to adopt, as is that there would be a certification of the city's housing element by the California Department of Housing and Community Development,

[2:05:40] who reviews all of the housing elements within the state of California.

[2:05:45] And your map there, did you use listed four sites?

[2:05:48] Was one of those the Habitat for Humanity Project?

[2:05:51] We have?

[2:05:52] I'm unsure.

[2:05:54] I'll look to staff?

[2:05:54] No.

[2:05:55] Because that would count towards our rena, wouldn't it?

[2:05:58] So, we actually, that wasn't counted in that number.

[2:06:02] The rena, what we did on the rena,

[2:06:04] is look to vacant sites, and so I don't know if that was.

[2:06:07] There were more vacant sites than we had within the analysis,

[2:06:10] we looked to the vacant sites, which had the most potential

[2:06:13] to provide for the rena units.

[2:06:16] So, it was staff recommendation to go with those four sites.

[2:06:19] There were more vacant sites out there.

[2:06:21] They just weren't selected.

[2:06:22] So, we had, and then, which yields is surplus.

[2:06:24] But in reality, once those are built, I mean, we'll actually exceed the arena by even more.

[2:06:30] And what you'll do again within your annual review of your general plan, including your housing element,

[2:06:36] is your report on those quantified objectives of meeting the very low and low income units,

[2:06:41] and so you can demonstrate that on a yearly basis.

[2:06:44] So that can be caught up within the numbers.

[2:06:48] Is there any penalty yet for not meeting those numbers?

[2:06:51] Is there a penalty for not meeting the rena?

[2:06:55] It's tied to CDBG funds and home funds,

[2:06:58] and so that your eligibility for those sorts of grants

[2:07:02] and monies and such, it's tied to that.

[2:07:05] And then if you have a non-compliant element within your general plan,

[2:07:09] there's always a liability there for having your plan being sued

[2:07:15] or taken to court.

[2:07:17] I understand the suit and the court.

[2:07:19] I didn't know if there was a state penalty with regard to MSEDVG and those things.

[2:07:24] No.

[2:07:25] It's just, yeah.

[2:07:25] So it's in the best interest of the city to have a certified element.

[2:07:28] Some communities in California, they don't get the certification, and they say, thank

[2:07:32] you very much.

[2:07:33] And they walk away.

[2:07:36] Thank you.

[2:07:37] Another question?

[2:07:43] Good evening, Mayor City Council.

[2:07:45] My name is Michael Hendrix, and I'm a project director for Atkins.

[2:07:49] I was the architect of the Climate Action Plan Tracy and Heidi actually assisted in drafting this plan as well.

[2:08:01] So, if you're having trouble sleeping tonight, I encourage you to look at chapters 4, 5, 6 and 7.

[2:08:10] Those are the heart of the plan which gets into the Mission Inventories, Greenhouse Gas Reduction Programs,

[2:08:16] total emission reductions, the conclusion and implementation portion of that plan.

[2:08:24] More to the point, rather than reading off the purpose and achievement goals,

[2:08:30] Akans in the design of the plan, or myself in the design of this plan,

[2:08:34] had three main goals in mind for the city.

[2:08:36] One is to maintain local control of GHG reductions and greenhouse gas thresholds,

[2:08:42] than have the air district or have to look to the Attorney General's memorandum with their

[2:08:51] wish list of reduction measures. You decide what's best in the character of the city

[2:08:58] as to how you're going to reduce emissions. Another goal was to provide a qualified climate

[2:09:05] action plan that can enjoy sequituring for future development projects, so while it doesn't

[2:09:10] leave you a secret, will relieve you of doing a detailed greenhouse gas analysis and hiring

[2:09:17] a consultant every time a developer wants to provide a proposed development needs to go through

[2:09:23] a secret review and then we wanted to provide reduction measures that keep the city economically

[2:09:29] competitive for new development and we'll get into how we do that in this balance of the need

[2:09:35] for reducing emissions and still keep economic vitality within the city.

[2:09:43] So, the general source category is transportation and energy of the lion's share of

[2:09:48] emissions that come from the community within the city. Transportation emissions, one of the

[2:09:57] ways we reduce is reduction of vehicle miles.

[2:10:00] Travel through that mixed use concept of reducing trips. Mayer we may not be able to entice you to get out

[2:10:08] of your car and walk everywhere in the city, but we might be able to entice you to drive within

[2:10:14] Lahabra and pick a place to park and eat it a nice restaurant, find the shopping that you want

[2:10:20] to do here in Lahabra rather than sneaking off to La Marata and seeing that new Christian rocker

[2:10:32] So in this way, trips are reduced marginally.

[2:10:36] The other is a key point in the transportation level,

[2:10:41] looking not only at non-vehicle transportation,

[2:10:46] but also at electric vehicle incentives to those vehicle trips

[2:10:52] that we do have, we'll be cleaning up over time.

[2:10:55] And that is an incentive program.

[2:10:57] On the energy side, looking at mixed use in and of itself because of the condensed infrastructure

[2:11:05] reduces energy use for those uses and providing compliments to Title 24 as well as water reductions.

[2:11:15] That constitutes those two transportation and energy constitutes over 85% of the emissions from the city.

[2:11:23] Let me ask you this question and have a goal of reducing up 15 percent.

[2:11:29] I assume you have to back into that number because we don't have the machine I can put

[2:11:34] up in the air measuring that reduction and also we don't have a border in the air for other

[2:11:40] cities, the other pollution comes in.

[2:11:43] So, do you really just back into the number saying, okay, we had x trips and now we have

[2:11:47] white trips and therefore we have x pollution decrease?

[2:11:51] Well, great question, so we do what's called the baseline emissions inventory and we look at the amount of electricity natural gas solid waste generated in the city amount of water used in the city.

[2:12:04] Transportation's the most troublesome because we don't have little trackers on every car, but we rely on transportation engineers to through their models figure out how many trips are generated within the city and how much vehicle miles traveled.

[2:12:19] and then from there we are able to apply emission factors and calculate the emissions coming from

[2:12:25] those different sources. Utility uses actually the most accurate. We know what's something

[2:12:31] California Edison generates as far as emissions per kilowatt and by using utility records

[2:12:36] we're able to see exactly how many kilowatts are consumed within the city. So taking that baseline

[2:12:43] And then looking at your general plan, looking at two key dates, 2020 and 2035 projecting forward.

[2:12:50] You're talking about electricity, so say I use a thousand kilowatt hours in my house.

[2:12:57] So I decrease that to 900. Are you saying, therefore, they don't have to generate that 900, and that's where the saving is, because you're not saving anything in my house.

[2:13:07] By using less electricity, they would not have to generate and that would produce less emissions.

[2:13:16] Some are else.

[2:13:18] Not in the city.

[2:13:18] Well, that's true.

[2:13:19] Those are what's called scope two emissions, indirect source emissions, following the protocols for community wide inventories.

[2:13:27] We need to include scope two emissions because indirectly you are producing those emissions through the consumption of electricity.

[2:13:35] The natural gas is a direct source, transportation is a direct source.

[2:13:41] Solid waste is an indirect source, because you may not have control of the solid waste facilities

[2:13:46] but you're generating the trash that goes there that produces the methane.

[2:13:51] Thank you.

[2:13:53] So, in looking at reduction measures, three basic types, the R1 are the state-level measures,

[2:14:00] such as the low carbon fuel standard and title 24 those things mandated by the state that

[2:14:08] the city really has no control over, but they do impact the amount of emissions coming from

[2:14:14] the city. The renewable portfolio that the utilities are required to follow also reduce

[2:14:21] emissions attributed to those thousand kilowatts that you're consuming in your household.

[2:14:26] The art two measures are the heart of the plan, those are the measures the city does have control over.

[2:14:32] And then the art three measures, what we call complementary measures in the most case, that might be public education programs and promotion programs, incentives to try and ties people to walk more, drive less, purchase and electric vehicles opposed to a gasoline vehicle, those kinds of things.

[2:15:00] The cap reduction measures will ensure that LaHover meets the AB32 reduction target. More importantly, if you're going to go to all this trouble of having these mission inventories and reduction measures and the calculations, we've gone the extra mile to do what's called qualified plan that will maintain your local control rather than use South Coast thresholds or for development projects to rely on the wish list of the Attorney General's Office in their memorandum.

[2:15:29] They look to the climate action plan and tearing off of that to provide reductions.

[2:15:35] And as long as there's shown to be compliant with the general plan and the climate action

[2:15:39] plan, they're considered less than significant impacts for greenhouse gas emissions.

[2:15:45] Financing and budgeting, there's some opportunities in grant funding, particular to electric

[2:15:50] car charging stations for the city.

[2:15:52] Things like that that'll help implement these reduction measures.

[2:15:56] And then we have a timeline and prioritization, developed and implementation schedule where

[2:16:03] you have near-term reduction measures, those low-hanging fruit, if you will, and then

[2:16:08] the longer-term stuff.

[2:16:12] The way we've incentivized reduction measures to balance that economic prosperity with the city

[2:16:19] is to look at those things that add economic values.

[2:16:23] So the mixed use that reduces vehicle trips also reduce greenhouse gas emissions and we

[2:16:29] were sure to make sure to calculate those first before we went into things that were

[2:16:34] more expensive.

[2:16:36] And looking at energy efficiency retrofits such as the hero program, we looked at those first

[2:16:41] because those actually saved the community money in the long term and in many cases are incentivized

[2:16:47] with grant programs and tax rebakes before getting into anything that would actually cost the community.

[2:16:56] And in doing so, we came up with two reduction targets.

[2:16:59] One for 2020 that city easily attains and one for 2035.

[2:17:04] The 2035 reduction target, we set as an interim target.

[2:17:09] And what I mean by that is that the 2035 target needs to be revisited as we get closer to 2020.

[2:17:16] see what works and what doesn't work for the city and how you can continue reducing emissions

[2:17:24] post 2020. In particular, the state currently does not have a post 2020 plan and the city

[2:17:33] of La Habra, like so many other cities, rely heavily on those reductions that the state

[2:17:39] mandates through low carbon fuel standards, renewable portfolio, Title 24. And until the state

[2:17:45] makes the next step post 2020.

[2:17:47] It would be really hard for the city on its own

[2:17:50] to take the entire burden of reduced reductions.

[2:17:55] So we call that 2035 target and interim target to be looked

[2:18:00] at somewhere, 2017, 2018, in preparation for post 2020.

[2:18:10] This goes through some of the implementation steps, public

[2:18:13] participation.

[2:18:14] Those are those R3 measures where you educate stakeholders

[2:18:17] and encourage participation, monitoring and inventorying updates, and then I already talked about

[2:18:24] beyond 2020.

[2:18:29] So with that, we'll proceed on to the environmental impact report.

[2:18:38] Good evening. My name is Nicole Morse with the Planning Center, and I was the project manager

[2:18:42] for the EIR portion.

[2:18:50] So the EIR covered the general plan, the housing element update, as well as

[2:18:56] the climate action plan. With respect to the general plan, the project looks at the existing

[2:19:02] on-the-ground uses and compares that to build out of the general plan. The existing on-the-ground

[2:19:08] uses were determined at the time of the notice of preparation when the initial study was being

[2:19:14] prepared. And so we looked at approximately 5,200 additional dwelling units and 4,000 from

[2:19:21] million square feet of additional non-residential square footage.

[2:19:26] There were 14 topics analyzed in the environmental impact report of those.

[2:19:35] They were, except for air quality, were found to be less insignificant, or after incorporation

[2:19:42] of the policies in the general plan, which a lot of them were created to be self-medicating.

[2:19:50] either with the policies or with mitigation 13 of the topic areas were determined to be less than significant.

[2:20:00] The most significant air quality.

[2:20:02] Air quality. And so, greenhouse gas emissions is on here, but through adoption of the climate action plan that will

[2:20:10] actually mitigate that impact to a less than significant level. So that remains air quality

[2:20:16] was the one that was determined to be significant and unavoidable, even with mitigation measures.

[2:20:22] And that's typical of a project of the size where you're looking at build out of an entire city.

[2:20:29] And I'm sorry, and how would you measure the impact of the air quality to, I mean, what

[2:20:35] level of unhelpiness or what impact would it have in our community, the air quality?

[2:20:43] The South Coast air quality management district has thresholds for the entire region, and

[2:20:48] so they establish that for the criteria of pollutants, so the analysis looks at construction,

[2:20:54] the short term construction impacts, and also operation, which is looking at the increase in traffic

[2:21:02] or trips and then the emissions that would result because of that.

[2:21:06] Thank you.

[2:21:07] But I ask a question.

[2:21:09] I'm not understanding the science, but wouldn't carbon dioxide be considered a greenhouse gas?

[2:21:15] Yes.

[2:21:17] But that's not obviously giving anyone asthma.

[2:21:19] I mean, that's a naturally occurring thing we breathe out.

[2:21:22] So I mean, when we're talking about air quality,

[2:21:26] there's a difference between a greenhouse gas versus a poor

[2:21:30] air quality that's harming people's lungs as they breathe, right?

[2:21:36] The criteria pollutants for air quality are

[2:21:41] look at particulate matter.

[2:21:43] They look at ozone.

[2:21:46] Michael could probably help me with this.

[2:21:51] I'm in Monoxide, right?

[2:21:53] I'm in Monoxide, right?

[2:21:54] I took an Oxide, a Monoxide, which is our,

[2:21:58] it's both so important.

[2:21:59] It's in a sulfur, sulfur dioxide.

[2:22:04] Particularly matter, what they call ultrapine.

[2:22:07] It's a little matter, which is PM2.5.

[2:22:10] There are many decos that seem to look suspicious in their thoughts.

[2:22:14] So those are, those are, self.

[2:22:16] But why aren't you coming up to the mic if you're going to be.

[2:22:22] So those are what they call criteria pollutants in the Clean Air Act.

[2:22:27] The Clean Air Act is promigated on preserving the health and welfare of the citizen.

[2:22:35] So the U.S. Clean Air Act has limits on those five criteria pollutants.

[2:22:42] South Coast Air Quality Management District is in charge of the Air Base and which

[2:22:47] LaHover is in, and they've set some pretty low thresholds, particularly for

[2:22:51] knocks at 55 pounds, and when you look at city wide, it's easy to exceed 55 pounds

[2:22:58] cumulatively.

[2:23:00] So it's typical for a project, the size of a general plan, for the city, the size of

[2:23:08] LaHover to be over a threshold of 55 pounds knocks.

[2:23:12] That doesn't mean that the air quality is getting worse in the

[2:23:16] harbor.

[2:23:16] Actually, I think a lot of the policies that you have in the climate action

[2:23:21] plan will improve their quality over time as well as the South Coast Air

[2:23:26] Quality Management District's Air Quality Management Plan is over time reducing

[2:23:31] air pollution here, but it's still over the limits for the clean air act.

[2:23:39] Thank you.

[2:23:40] So, for air quality, we will have to, or we prepared a statement of a variety of considerations.

[2:23:46] So, you'll weigh that weighs the environmental impacts against the benefits of the project.

[2:23:52] That will be adopted along with the findings when you decide whether to certify the environmental impact report.

[2:24:02] Whenever you have a significant impact, or whenever you find a significant impact within the environmental impact report,

[2:24:09] you have to look at alternatives.

[2:24:13] We looked at three alternatives, and the EIR, one of them, is required by state law, which

[2:24:19] is the no project alternative.

[2:24:22] In this case, it would be continuation of the adopted 2020 general plan.

[2:24:30] So we would compare the build out of the adopted general plan to the project.

[2:24:37] We also looked at a reduced intensity alternative, and that was to look at the reducing

[2:24:44] some of the air quality impacts, and for the reduced intensity alternative, we looked at

[2:24:50] reducing the development intensity by 20%.

[2:24:54] The third alternative was a reduced residential and increased non-resistant non-resistant.

[2:25:02] Reducing both reducing residential by 10 percent, and increasing non-residential by 10 percent.

[2:25:14] Really quick, I wanted to point out, we received eight comment letters during the public review period,

[2:25:20] and we responded to those. We sent the responses to all of the commenters prior to the planning commission hearing.

[2:25:27] We received one late comment from the State Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.

[2:25:32] And, however, basically, they reviewed the document and they said that they had no comment

[2:25:37] on the EIR.

[2:25:39] So, there was no further follow-up that we needed for that.

[2:25:42] And now, what are you going to wrap up?

[2:25:43] Anything else?

[2:25:44] Before you go there, I'd like to ask you a question.

[2:25:46] Did we get any comments from the school districts?

[2:25:49] Because I noticed in here, when I was reading through here, we talked about an increase of

[2:25:54] 5,700 students, and you have the sense, the construction of new schools may be needed in order

[2:26:02] Why not, I don't know, or anybody would build a new school in the harbour, but we got a lot of vacant classrooms in the harbour city school district.

[2:26:08] That's why I was headed is, did you have any communication with school district and talked to them about these numbers?

[2:26:17] The, um, the Fullerton High Unified School District sent a letter during the initial study period, and then also during the EIR period.

[2:26:27] We responded to those comments and sent them our responses.

[2:26:31] We also contacted them as we are writing the analysis for this school impacts.

[2:26:38] And receiving anything from the old joint or the Harvard City School elementary schools.

[2:26:44] We didn't receive comment letters, but they were contacted in order to do our analysis for the EIR.

[2:26:49] Okay. Thank you.

[2:26:51] They need more students.

[2:26:56] Finally, for the record, just in consideration your action tonight, the Planning Commission

[2:27:03] reviewed the same documents had the same presentation you've had here tonight on the plan

[2:27:09] and the four documents that you are considering here tonight and the four actions that

[2:27:15] they took on December 9th, where to certify the IAR, recommend your certification of the IAR,

[2:27:21] Recommend adoption of the plan. Recommend adoption of the 2014-2021 housing element and finally they recommended adoption of the climate action

[2:27:33] I see the climate action plan that concludes our presentation. If you have any other council members

[2:27:39] Questions or again public comments, we'll be we're here to respond any of the questions

[2:27:44] Yeah, just for clarification the planning commission heard this presentation and its entirety as well

[2:27:51] They heard it in its entirety.

[2:27:54] They asked fewer questions.

[2:27:59] Is that the long form or the short form?

[2:28:03] I think the presentation was the same length without questions.

[2:28:08] Any other questions?

[2:28:11] Can.

[2:28:12] Just a comment.

[2:28:14] I think the general plan update is a very exciting for our community.

[2:28:19] This will offer an opportunity for exciting new projects, which will make the heart of an even stronger community.

[2:28:27] Would the audience be invited to answer?

[2:28:29] Yeah, that's after we're done if we have any questions.

[2:28:32] Okay, we're done with questions.

[2:28:33] Comments will get a chance after the problem.

[2:28:36] All right, then at this time, we will open the public hearing,

[2:28:39] which then we go back to the rules.

[2:28:41] You have three minutes, watch your lights.

[2:28:45] And...

[2:28:45] No, there's no limit.

[2:28:46] There's no limit.

[2:28:48] Oh, I tried to get a limit.

[2:28:50] Okay, they can talk as long as they want.

[2:28:53] All right, talk as long as you want.

[2:28:55] The only thing I'd ask is don't be redundant

[2:28:57] as somebody's talked about an issue we've heard at once.

[2:29:02] So, for all of those of you speak,

[2:29:04] please give your name and address for the record.

[2:29:06] Like I said, don't be redundant on your testimony.

[2:29:08] The only reason we'd like your name,

[2:29:10] the number is in case we need to get back to you.

[2:29:14] So, the first ones I would like to hear from

[2:29:17] as those that support adoption of this plan,

[2:29:21] the most that may be our neutral,

[2:29:22] and those that are in opposition

[2:29:24] or have issues with it will go after the first group.

[2:29:29] So let's go.

[2:29:35] Papatris, Southern California,

[2:29:37] Addison, 1325, South Grand, Sanana.

[2:29:41] And the only reason I come before you and Mayor

[2:29:44] and ask for your indulgence is to apologize.

[2:29:48] Edison was well notified about your EIR and unfortunately it was during a time we were

[2:29:55] changing some employees around and it got lost in the shuffle.

[2:30:00] I got a panic call at 515 tonight. Oh, are you going to go to the council meeting? I suggest I am on my way right now.

[2:30:08] So I only want to put into the record that I will have a letter to you by Friday that will be telling you that the only concern was that in chapter 3 under your mobility and circulation, regarding the widening of certain intersections of which are not totally identified or anything else.

[2:30:29] But what we do is a general statement stating that if we have transmission facilities involved at that point in time,

[2:30:37] once we have actual plans in front of us, there may be a need for us to do relocations and doing work on our facilities.

[2:30:48] So it's just a courtesy that I wanted to make sure I put that into the record tonight, and again, a apologize for not being on time.

[2:30:58] Thank

[2:31:04] you.

[2:31:05] Good evening Mayor Beamish.

[2:31:06] Members of the Council.

[2:31:06] My name is Ron Lebs.

[2:31:08] I'm the Assistant Superintendent for Business with the Fullerton

[2:31:10] Joint Union High School District.

[2:31:14] I'm not here to comment for against, but what I would like to do is

[2:31:18] come in Mr. Hackett and his staff on a significant amount of work and a

[2:31:23] rather large undertaking working for another local government agency.

[2:31:26] I know how much work and energy goes into something of this magnitude.

[2:31:30] I want to thank them and thank the City Council and the City of Haber for engaging us in the process allowing us to participate.

[2:31:37] We did respond in writing and those comments were incorporated.

[2:31:41] What was really interesting I would like to commend staff on this is that we took this to our board of trustees provided them with the information about the general planned update.

[2:31:49] They gave us some comments and we sent those in. Those were incorporated into the document.

[2:31:54] And so I want to thank Mr. Hack and staff again for taking those into consideration.

[2:32:00] With that, we also had the opportunity to attend some of the planning meetings that

[2:32:05] took place over the summer and felt very welcomed and engaged in that process.

[2:32:12] So just in summary, I want to thank the city for the opportunity to participate in the

[2:32:18] process.

[2:32:19] We were well included and if you have any questions, I'd be happy to address those.

[2:32:23] But I want to thank you, and particularly I George G. O'Carris, we always had a wonderful

[2:32:26] working relationship with him. He meets with our city manager, at least almost every

[2:32:31] month I think, and thank you for that good relationship we have with your school district.

[2:32:36] Thank you very much.

[2:32:44] Here, Mayor Beamish, and members of the City Council, I'm Larry Lizard, and the business

[2:32:48] address is 110 East Walnut Avenue in Fullerton. I'm here this evening as I've been throughout

[2:32:53] the process representing the property owner of that parcel that came into question earlier on

[2:33:00] the north side of the railroad between Harbor Bull of Art and Cyprus.

[2:33:06] The property owner did make the request early on that it be modified from light industrial

[2:33:11] to a multifamily housing and the staff and the G-PAC committee and the citizens have reviewed

[2:33:18] this and recommended that indeed it be redisignated to a medium density.

[2:33:25] That was analyzed in the general plan, it was analyzed in the EIR, it was recommended

[2:33:31] for approval by the GPAC committee and by the planning commission.

[2:33:36] We've always seen this as a transitional use site between the industrial to the south and

[2:33:42] the single family residential to the north.

[2:33:45] Additionally, you folks have been contemplating a bicycle path along the railroad trap.

[2:33:51] Well, if this were to maintain a light industrial, right here bike or going on a hike

[2:33:57] through industrial properties, isn't always the most inviting and encouraging for folks.

[2:34:02] We've always maintained that to put residential on this property as a sense of security on that trail

[2:34:09] because there's eyes on the trail.

[2:34:11] people know that there's other folks out there and they're not isolated in an industrial property.

[2:34:17] So we're here to request that change to maintain the recommendations of the G-PAC, the staff, and the planning commission.

[2:34:26] I've been involved in general plan processes from the public and the private side for 34 years now.

[2:34:33] And the process that your city has gone through has been the best that I've witnessed or participated in in 34 years.

[2:34:40] Your staff has the heart of Lyons, how they maintain this, and how they've led this process through.

[2:34:47] Your citizens were always involved.

[2:34:50] Your GPAC committee reviewed reams and reams of information and asked the good questions

[2:34:57] and acted very judiciously on the request.

[2:35:01] And the wisdom of this city to bring in woody tether to lead the technical studies of this general plan.

[2:35:10] If there's nothing else that you ever did, you are in a position to come up with the optimal general plan on that process.

[2:35:18] So I thank you and I stand ready to answer any questions.

[2:35:21] So you're happy.

[2:35:23] I'm very happy with the city of L'Habra.

[2:35:26] I have to say that Mr. Lazar was there so often that I

[2:35:30] when he wasn't there, which was rarely.

[2:35:33] And one particular day, I had gone to go get a snow shave.

[2:35:38] I have a snow shave, a snow cone, or something like that.

[2:35:42] And I saw him in his wife, and I thought,

[2:35:44] am I missing a G-pack meeting?

[2:35:46] Because that's the only time I saw him all the time.

[2:35:49] I don't know where to see her do enjoy that's something that's no shave as well.

[2:35:54] So thank you very much for participating every meeting that we had.

[2:35:57] These kind of processes do afford people to discover your town and discover things to do here in your town

[2:36:04] and you become loyal customers of the town.

[2:36:07] Thank you for coming in from Florida.

[2:36:09] One other thing, you have great books for sale at the library.

[2:36:13] I found some real treasures there over the last two years.

[2:36:16] Thank you.

[2:36:22] Mayer Beamish and City Council members, I'm here as my name is Sandy Baltis.

[2:36:28] I'm here as the President of the La Haber City School District School Board.

[2:36:32] I just want to thank you on behalf of the school board for everybody, all of your hard

[2:36:37] work and all the wonderful things.

[2:36:39] If we have a great community, we have a great school district, and so I do appreciate very

[2:36:44] much that we are included in it, that we've been a part of this and just thank you very

[2:36:56] Mayor Beamish and City Council members, thank you for the privilege of letting me speak.

[2:37:01] My name is Laura Stacey.

[2:37:03] I live at 1-4-1 El Rancho Drive in La Habra, and I have been a resident of La Habra since

[2:37:09] the mid-1960s and my current residents over 40 years, I have a neighbor property that is listed

[2:37:18] on the letter that I received, which brings me here.

[2:37:23] The neighbor is the Church of the Master, Lutheran Church.

[2:37:28] Next to that is the Masonic Temple.

[2:37:30] Next to that is the Gospel Presbyterian Church,

[2:37:33] and then some businesses along there.

[2:37:37] That parcel has been in the past,

[2:37:40] designated as a commercial professional office with a special condition, conditional permits

[2:37:50] to the churches and probably I'm not sure but probably to the Masonic Temple.

[2:37:56] Now in this letter and on the back of the map, it's showing that the change is indicated to be made

[2:38:03] residential multi-family, 25 to 30 units per acre.

[2:38:09] I feel that this is a unique situation.

[2:38:12] You've got three entities, the two churches

[2:38:15] in the Masonic Temple that have been there for many years.

[2:38:17] They don't have vacancies like has been prevalent

[2:38:21] in the city and in those at the end of that property.

[2:38:25] So I feel to designate a change in zoning.

[2:38:29] I'm using that word is not inappropriate at this time.

[2:38:33] And I would ask that the City Council and the committee review that one parcel and look at it again.

[2:38:40] I would like to request that it stays the same or some other venue, not the multi-residential.

[2:38:46] Thank you so much.

[2:38:48] Thank you.

[2:38:52] A quick question of staff on that property.

[2:38:54] It's my understanding.

[2:38:56] Again, that will be not conforming to the churches and the Masonic Temple can stay there

[2:39:01] correct.

[2:39:02] I'm sorry.

[2:39:03] I was talking to staff.

[2:39:04] I wanted to clarify that the churches and the Masonic temple can stay and operate.

[2:39:12] They would not be considered legal non-couparming.

[2:39:15] Those uses are permitted by conditionally is printed in the residential zone, so they

[2:39:19] could continue to function, they could expand, subject to their conditionally use print.

[2:39:24] Yeah, the church just spent over a million dollars in doing a remodel there, so they're not

[2:39:29] going anywhere in the Thunnic Log just in going anywhere, that would just be the event

[2:39:33] of if they were decided to sell the property and at that point it would come to the city council

[2:39:37] planning commission.

[2:39:39] So, you know, you won't see anything going on there for quite a while.

[2:39:41] Years and years and years.

[2:39:42] We're not chasing them out.

[2:39:44] But I know there are, in fact, many of them we're here in the audience earlier today.

[2:39:47] And they're here to stay the Korean Church.

[2:39:51] And Carlos, just to be clear, they are not subject to the non-conforming restrictions

[2:39:56] of some of these other sites we've talked about tonight.

[2:39:58] they actually had a certain

[2:40:00] And other protections provided to them under the COP correct?

[2:40:03] That's correct. As we re-work the zoning code to fit into the land regulations, the establishments of churches and facilities like the Masonic are permitted in residential zone subject to condition of use permits, which is the same requirement in the commercial professional zone.

[2:40:23] Okay, thank you.

[2:40:24] And if they had a fire or a loss of the bill, they could rebuild.

[2:40:31] It's not like the other.

[2:40:32] It can do it in a situation, right?

[2:40:34] That is correct.

[2:40:35] They could demolish and come in with a new plan for a new church.

[2:40:40] Yeah.

[2:40:41] Subject to the condition they used to permit that they operate under.

[2:40:45] Sorry to interrupt you there.

[2:40:47] You can go now.

[2:40:49] You know, we were going to dance there, I thought, that's a good evening.

[2:40:52] Mayor and City Council. My name is Lee Deerly and I represent the LLI Enterprise. I'm

[2:40:57] with your boulevard. I represent the owner of the property on Imperial 441 to 521,

[2:41:07] which has been zoning has been changed from industrial to multi-residential.

[2:41:14] There are difficult

[2:41:15] issues with this is a 11-unit property. And there are difficult issues with regards to

[2:41:24] leases. I cannot renew their leases out of consideration that if I lose a portion of the

[2:41:34] tenant or a building burns, it cannot be rebuilt. If an industrial tenant leaves, now this

[2:41:43] This is my interpretation, correct me please, if an industrial tenant leaves and the building

[2:41:49] is vacant for over a year and during the economic slowdown, I had that issue.

[2:41:55] I cannot release it.

[2:41:57] Therefore, as a representative of the property owner, I have to put these tenants on month

[2:42:02] to month leases.

[2:42:05] And when something, when the shoe falls, they have to be evicted.

[2:42:09] There are tenets that have been there since the 1970-1979.

[2:42:16] These guys have several of the tenets here.

[2:42:20] They have a lot of time and energy and effort building their businesses there.

[2:42:27] And as a property owner, you tell me how I can renew their leases.

[2:42:31] I don't know how I can.

[2:42:33] I

[2:42:37] believe we won't have an impact across.

[2:42:42] So what's the current zone in there?

[2:42:45] The current land use designation there is light industrial.

[2:42:50] And so the use that the changes to multi-family, right?

[2:42:55] So what would happen is all of the industrial uses there would be legal not conforming.

[2:43:01] The question becomes if there's a unit that's vacant for a year and it's part of an industrial

[2:43:07] center does that mean I can no longer lease out that particular unit. And how we would

[2:43:17] interpret the non-conforming section is that we are looking at the entire property if it's

[2:43:23] an industrial park and the industrial park is performing and functioning that we wouldn't

[2:43:30] penalize the property owner because if particular unit hasn't been occupied for a year

[2:43:35] we're looking at the entire site, in regards to the central way of the carlison, it said the

[2:43:43] actually advantageous for him to have long-term leases on the unit.

[2:43:50] Yeah, so I think that's what he's looking for.

[2:43:53] The other, in that instance, it works.

[2:43:56] The other question is, for example, if you have industrial park that consists of a number of buildings.

[2:44:06] and one of the buildings burned down.

[2:44:13] Does that mean that that particular building

[2:44:16] cannot be reconstructive, which then potentially impacts

[2:44:21] the economic viability of the particular site?

[2:44:25] I think that's one of the things that we need to look at

[2:44:28] and my thought at least would be that we look again

[2:44:31] at the industrial part and how it functions.

[2:44:35] The way the non-performing section is written

[2:44:37] It looks at the market value that's assessed to the building.

[2:44:43] My thought is in this particular situation.

[2:44:45] We'd be looking at the market value of the property,

[2:44:48] what's on the site.

[2:44:50] And again, if the cost to rebuild that is less than 50% of the market value,

[2:44:56] then that can be reconstructed.

[2:44:58] We only get into a situation where...

[2:45:00] If the value of the reconstruction exceeds 50% of the assessed value for the property that it would not be allowed to be rebuilt.

[2:45:08] But certainly at that point, it can come to the city council and we can make a further determination at that point.

[2:45:13] It is a section of the zoning code that could be brought back to the city council.

[2:45:18] So with regard to Jim's remarks, say there's an earthquake, the whole place goes flat.

[2:45:24] He wants to rebuild industrial units because of the change in zoning.

[2:45:28] He can't, because it's going to be more than 50%, however he could come to the city council who we could then amend the general plan and change it back to the zone.

[2:45:39] He can always light industrial.

[2:45:42] But isn't there a cost to that?

[2:45:45] I mean, I mean, a time delay certainly.

[2:45:49] But isn't there a zoning designation?

[2:45:51] and we could give that a mixed use or something that would allow for residential or the current

[2:45:58] uses there.

[2:46:00] We don't have a designation that allows for a mix of industrial and residential because

[2:46:05] of the type of uses that are typically associated with industrial uses.

[2:46:09] You try to buffer residential for them in industrial use.

[2:46:11] I don't think it's a desire of anybody here on the city council to go and meet Victor and

[2:46:16] have it in that neighborhood and in your section there. So I certainly, again, we will be looking

[2:46:23] at all of the provisions within the Zoni Code and that includes the non-conforming sections

[2:46:30] and realizing the argument that's been presented in regards to industrial parks and how they

[2:46:35] function differently than a sole business operator that's one building. We'll investigate how we

[2:46:46] not conforming and when properties require the transition over to the

[2:46:51] landest destination.

[2:46:52] But do you have there now a laundry mat, a liquor store, and they...

[2:46:56] No, no, no.

[2:46:57] At this time, we have a 12,000 square foot body and...

[2:47:01] Yeah, I have the street.

[2:47:02] I was thinking to go to your other property.

[2:47:05] We have a automotive.

[2:47:07] Yeah, Mac.

[2:47:09] Just to clarify, is there one...

[2:47:14] Is the parcel all together or are there multiple parcels that make up the industrial part?

[2:47:19] It's one parcel.

[2:47:20] Okay. So it has three buildings.

[2:47:25] I just want to ask that to clarify that given that the parcel is all together presently,

[2:47:31] I think Carlos is correct in saying that if you had one building go down,

[2:47:35] the whole thing would be looked at as the whole parcel.

[2:47:38] And that one building is probably not going to be more than one third of the market value.

[2:47:43] So you still would be able to rebuild it.

[2:47:45] I'm just sort of...

[2:47:46] So then could that one building be rebuilt?

[2:47:49] Yes, that's what Carlos said.

[2:47:50] OK, then what I need to get that in writing,

[2:47:54] so I can tell the property owner,

[2:47:56] and we can make sound business decision on leases.

[2:48:00] With all the part of the general plan,

[2:48:01] so you can grab a copy of the general plan

[2:48:03] and it's, you got a record here.

[2:48:06] You get to copy the DVD.

[2:48:07] Well, I think he's going to need more than I think

[2:48:09] he's going to need Carlos and Mike to...

[2:48:11] Mike and Carlos.

[2:48:12] Mike, gentlemen, staff, we were talking about and the letter of the explanation with regards

[2:48:21] to his property.

[2:48:22] So there's three buildings on his one parcel.

[2:48:25] One goes down, we're saying that within the sense of the less than 50% of value, so he should

[2:48:30] be able to rebuild that building.

[2:48:32] So two things I think we need from you is one, clarify that for the property owner.

[2:48:37] So they know exactly what the rules are.

[2:48:40] And then the second thing is you're going to investigate how this would work and potentially

[2:48:47] maybe a different zoning to get what we want should they sell the property.

[2:48:52] What we're committing to is looking at the non-conforming section so that it better defines situations

[2:48:59] where you have properties with multi-buildings and how you determine whether it exceeds 50%

[2:49:06] of the market value or reconstruction.

[2:49:08] Okay, so you can do two things.

[2:49:10] You can do, like I'll let her explain exactly what it is.

[2:49:13] Why don't you research that and kind of work with the honor in this representative?

[2:49:17] That's correct.

[2:49:18] All right.

[2:49:19] Yeah, anything you can do to help reduce the uncertainty, I think, is what we're looking for.

[2:49:24] Would it be better if we just change the designation back to latin industrial?

[2:49:30] I think that there's a concern from the property owner and the tenants that they don't

[2:49:36] I didn't want to be in the situation of legal not conforming.

[2:49:41] And I mean, I look, I wasn't on the GPAC committee, I don't want to, I don't know how

[2:49:46] much some of you guys spent on this or what the discussion was,

[2:49:51] but I mean, do we really want

[2:49:53] have that zone for a residential, I mean, maybe Rosa Mike, you could.

[2:50:00] Tell me what the big thought process was. At the G on the G pack about why making that change. I mean, it seems to me that driving down Imperial that those uses are consistent with what you see on Imperial. I know there are apartments to the west or housing, but I don't think that that stands up particularly is something that we need to be changed in my view.

[2:50:24] I think it was because of the residents to the north and the south to make continuity there,

[2:50:31] but maybe staff can address that.

[2:50:33] Well, if I might, I think in Carlos, you can correct me if I were on or Mike.

[2:50:38] Part of the issue when the G-pack looked at this was the positioning of this site relative

[2:50:44] to residential all surrounding it.

[2:50:47] So if we're able to provide some guidance to the property owner with respect to continuing

[2:50:52] to operate the property in the means of is now as far as light industrial and clarify how that

[2:50:59] property can continue doing that as a non-conforming use in the future. It protects the property

[2:51:03] under to be able to at least these sites out long term. On the second hand, it does increase potentially

[2:51:10] their land value because it's now a residential underlying residential use. So at some point in the

[2:51:16] future, the property owner may decide residential becomes a more attractive option for

[2:51:22] a long-term development of that site, and then it fits into that entire area with the purpose of residential that's surrounding it to the south and north and the west to the west side of that.

[2:51:32] So I'm think, and Mike, maybe you can give me a little more clarification.

[2:51:36] I think that's the Jim, but the voice that doesn't get heard at the table are the folks that are sitting out there who are the leases that ultimately they have businesses at stake.

[2:51:47] And the property owner could determine that ultimately it's more valuable to me to boot them out and put residential in there.

[2:51:56] So the question is, do we want to make the modification in order to provide more options for housing and a more consistent use on the highway?

[2:52:10] do we want to give the property owner the maximum flexibility so that he or she can continue

[2:52:15] to lease the property as is. But all of that is a conversation between the city and the property

[2:52:21] owner. And I hear a concern from the business owners who lease that property that ultimately

[2:52:30] they could be paying the price for it. And so that does raise another issue. Sure.

[2:52:37] Well, I think Jim's remarks is that if I'm the property owner and I can add value to my property which is my understanding

[2:52:45] If you go residential, it could be 50% greater in value than a light industrial commercial, but with regards to the tenants, sounds like with our conditions you'd be able to enter in the long-term leases.

[2:52:59] So I've always been about giving the owners or property

[2:53:02] and businesses as flexibility, the most flexibility

[2:53:06] they can have.

[2:53:08] Now, if you want to ensure the tenants

[2:53:11] that they're going to have a place to stay,

[2:53:12] you do the long-term lease.

[2:53:14] And it looks like he has the idea that they can do that.

[2:53:18] Yeah.

[2:53:18] Because the flip side of the argument would be

[2:53:19] if we hadn't resowned it in the general plan,

[2:53:22] what would we have done if the property owners came to us

[2:53:25] and said, hey, we have residential all around us.

[2:53:27] Why aren't you considering making

[2:53:28] the faculty, family, residential, at least give me that option instead of forcing me to stay

[2:53:32] light industrial.

[2:53:34] So then the conversation would have been the opposite side of the coin, is, okay, do

[2:53:37] we want to restrict the owner from his ability to do what he wants with his property.

[2:53:46] And this may be a conversation that should take place with the persons that are least

[2:53:52] you the property with the person that owns the property as well.

[2:53:57] Right.

[2:53:57] That's good.

[2:53:57] Well, I wonder if some of them still want to talk, testifying.

[2:54:01] Well, they may.

[2:54:02] So at this point, staff is going to look into the conditions and work on that.

[2:54:08] We've got your number out there.

[2:54:09] Okay.

[2:54:09] Thank you.

[2:54:14] Thank you, gentlemen.

[2:54:18] Hello.

[2:54:18] My name is Jesse Roarby.

[2:54:20] I live at 434, Citrus Hill Lane, La Habra.

[2:54:24] And I'm mostly here to praise the general plan for its focus on walkable, mixed use,

[2:54:29] density neighborhoods. Now that Lahabra is relatively built out, this is the logical

[2:54:35] next step. There's a lot of run-down commercial areas in particular in the

[2:54:39] Habra that really greatly need rebuilding. The one thing I would like to point

[2:54:45] out is walking down the Habra Boulevard. I know that the plan is to make that

[2:54:50] at a nice downtown area to do that. You're really going to have to make it more

[2:54:54] pedestrian-friendly. I mean I was walking down the road the other day with my mother

[2:54:58] and trying to have a conversation over the cars.

[2:55:00] You're almost shouting. Beyond that, I mean, I'm a healthy 30 year old. You push the button to cross the street. And if you miss it for a couple of seconds, you don't make it. It's really not well-designed for pedestrians. I would consider things even as drastic as reducing it to two lanes and putting angle parking the full way down the road. It's not a very important road for cars. It has parallel, wittier and Lambert. But it is important to try and make a nicer neighborhood.

[2:55:29] That is all I have. Thank you.

[2:55:30] Thank you.

[2:55:36] Good evening Mayor and council members. My name is Mark Suryang. I'm a representative for the property owner of the 1700 West of the House of Bolivar.

[2:55:46] I won't repeat the contents of my letter that I believe was already a minister.

[2:55:51] But our concern is that it means the red designation of the property to multi-family residents.

[2:55:58] What earlier was mentioned that that possibly residential property may actually increase the value.

[2:56:04] But just as not taking consideration, that the conversion to this residential property is going to be a very large amount of money.

[2:56:14] The property owner purchased the property in 2007 for $2.1 million, and then thereafter, shortly thereafter, the city required the property owner to be to find the property.

[2:56:24] So he spent another $9,000 into the property.

[2:56:27] So he's got a total investment, $3 million into the property.

[2:56:32] He still has a loan of about $1.4 million.

[2:56:35] So I understand the non-conforming use

[2:56:40] that he can still operate the property as a preschool,

[2:56:42] or I think the CUP allows even a daycare.

[2:56:45] And this is a form of AAA billy?

[2:56:47] Yeah, this is a form of AAA billy.

[2:56:49] So now, in the event of a fire or something

[2:56:52] that takes down the one billing,

[2:56:54] because this one only has one building.

[2:56:55] It's not three buildings on this parcel.

[2:56:59] Or, in the unfortunate event,

[2:57:00] I would say the tenant ceases to operate as a preschool

[2:57:04] and the owners are unable to look in another preschool

[2:57:08] operator for a year.

[2:57:10] And therefore, if you want to change into another use,

[2:57:13] it has to be residential.

[2:57:15] Therefore, you would have to incur possibly the cost

[2:57:20] to either tear it down or I know if you can convert it,

[2:57:23] It's going to be a few more million dollars to convert this.

[2:57:26] He may be four or five million dollars into the project,

[2:57:29] from the interest investment and with no possibility of even selling a property,

[2:57:33] because I'm sure the property is not going to affect more than what the market value is at.

[2:57:37] And so the concern is that the re-desination is going to decrease the value of his property.

[2:57:46] We would ask that the property stay as the SP1 designation,

[2:57:52] or maybe even consider it to be a mixed-used designation.

[2:57:56] If this area is supposed to be the law of a downtown area,

[2:58:00] why not consider it being staying as its current use,

[2:58:04] or even having the ability of later on,

[2:58:07] property or electing to either sell it to somebody

[2:58:10] at once to convert the property to a residential property,

[2:58:14] or maybe himself who'll do it later on in a date,

[2:58:17] but have that option not force it upon him to have

[2:58:21] to create a residential property

[2:58:25] in the event of the unfortunate of a fire or something like that.

[2:58:31] So again, we request the item that is only to turn

[2:58:33] in as SB1, or maybe consider a mixed use.

[2:58:39] Yeah, Mike, Carlos,

[2:58:47] just a question before he started.

[2:58:50] The 50% threshold, I sort of get that,

[2:58:54] but I'm thinking maybe that's too high of a bar.

[2:58:57] When that's when, when I finish, when I, when I know in our place burns down earthquake knocks it down,

[2:59:04] they want to rebuild and they want to rebuild their business.

[2:59:08] So essentially if we go 50% and it exceeds that, they can't rebuild their business, right?

[2:59:16] Well, let me address parts of your question.

[2:59:20] Answer it, God.

[2:59:21] First of all, I don't think any earthquake unless we're looking at a 10,

[2:59:25] is going to knock our single story frame buildings down in this

[2:59:29] community or tilt up whatever that may be.

[2:59:33] So I don't think that dooms day will come.

[2:59:40] When it comes to 50%, do you know I've worked for several cities?

[2:59:45] It's pretty common, pretty standard.

[2:59:47] We actually use that formula when we were considering the sunset in

[2:59:54] over on Beach Boulevard, and we went back and forth

[2:59:57] for a period of six months we had.

[3:00:01] We had evaluation engineers take a look at this. And it was very important as part of the process. And at the end of the day, the property owner was able to prove that he was less than 50% on the fire damage that occurred. So it is a good measure. And it's one that I don't think that staff is, unless we identify some other measure, would be able to recommend anything, at least right.

[3:00:30] Not right now, not right now.

[3:00:33] Mike, if I might ask, is that a industry standard number

[3:00:36] is it something that's the best practice or something

[3:00:39] that is identified in?

[3:00:40] It's just something.

[3:00:42] OK, I mean, that number is something

[3:00:43] that we have discretion over then.

[3:00:46] Does that establish what level?

[3:00:48] Say, we have the discretion

[3:00:49] to establish what level that is, 50% is.

[3:00:52] That's a zoning code issue.

[3:00:54] OK, but is there best practice in the industry that says 50%

[3:00:57] It seems to be the most appropriate number for these type of analysis.

[3:01:03] I think what I said before is yes.

[3:01:07] The codes in the cities that I've worked for and maybe we can refer back to our city attorney.

[3:01:12] Cities he works in 50% is the norm.

[3:01:15] Pretty consistent across.

[3:01:17] Yes.

[3:01:18] Now with regard to the prior speaker, I think we might have his problem resolved.

[3:01:25] And it's pretty simple, he currently has a CUP for his daycare center within the professional office.

[3:01:33] In our code existing, you can have a daycare center within a residential zone with a CUP.

[3:01:41] So either way, he's covered if he maintains his CUP that he doesn't shut it down for a year,

[3:01:49] just like the other non-conforming types of uses.

[3:01:53] But in his case, he can come in and he

[3:01:56] can through the codes, current codes, extend

[3:01:58] his CUP for up to two years, even if it's vacant,

[3:02:04] and protect his rights.

[3:02:06] So I guess what I'm saying is in either case,

[3:02:09] a CUP is required, he's protected either way you cut it.

[3:02:13] And the added value of residential to me,

[3:02:18] I mean, in my opinion, it should be appealing to him as a landowner and an investor.

[3:02:24] So he's covered either way from our perspective.

[3:02:28] All right, so if the building burns down,

[3:02:32] he could rebuild it.

[3:02:33] He has to see you have a child care center because of the CUP.

[3:02:37] Absolutely.

[3:02:38] Plus, now, if we've re-zoned it under the residential,

[3:02:42] as you said, that had given him an extra option to develop and walk away

[3:02:47] with a whole lot of money.

[3:02:51] I don't like to characterize it like that, but I mean,

[3:02:55] as Woody has repeated it in his sight,

[3:02:58] it definitely enhances the value of his property.

[3:03:01] Well, it does sound like he's protected

[3:03:02] and he's either on a...

[3:03:04] There's one more scenario, though, that I think I heard him mention

[3:03:07] that I want to clear with you.

[3:03:09] The CUP is for a daycare center.

[3:03:13] If he is unable to find another daycare center to operate there,

[3:03:19] It was formally used as an office building. Correct? Yes, it was.

[3:03:25] Can't go back to being used as an office building.

[3:03:28] If he gets the resident, no.

[3:03:30] No, his vested right is the CUP, the CUP is for a naked care.

[3:03:34] So that's he is limited to that CUP.

[3:03:37] So that option would not be available.

[3:03:39] CUP runs with land.

[3:03:41] But the CUP also runs with the use. Correct?

[3:03:44] That is correct. That is correct.

[3:03:47] So the CUP protects his rights to the daycare center.

[3:03:52] Then how he's going to develop that you can change it to the residential and he could develop that.

[3:03:57] Or you have a commercial where he can do office buildings if you want.

[3:04:02] So it's one of the, we're going to limit one choice.

[3:04:05] If I refer to my key of lead.

[3:04:07] This is, excuse me, vote.

[3:04:09] This is a purely residential designation not mixed use.

[3:04:14] Okay, no, no.

[3:04:16] So, however, he could still bring him back and contest for planning commission, the City Council asked for a amendment to the general plan.

[3:04:26] He also can do that.

[3:04:28] That's always an option.

[3:04:30] And by the way, I think you said four times a year, I think it's nine now.

[3:04:36] You can amend your plan.

[3:04:37] You're both incorrect.

[3:04:38] And next.

[3:04:38] Next use might be advantages in that we're trying to lower trips.

[3:04:43] So depending on the type of retail business that might be there, you'd have folks surrounding it that would utilize that business if it's the right kind of business.

[3:04:53] If you went with a mixed use to signate.

[3:04:57] But it and there right now, I'm just looking at.

[3:05:00] I'm going to end this down in the road.

[3:05:03] Carlos Roy.

[3:05:06] The question for you. Is the entire block from that intersecret all the way down?

[3:05:13] It's from the apartment complex that in circles the mobile station or the.

[3:05:23] It was the mobile station.

[3:05:25] The move to this building and the accomplice and CARES?

[3:05:28] Yes.

[3:05:29] Makes sense all the way to the apartment company.

[3:05:33] So yes, it is a residential only designation.

[3:05:37] Makes use at least not now, and other uses are the condolous in homes on the south side

[3:05:43] of the street.

[3:05:45] Okay.

[3:05:46] I think in these instances, once whatever action we take tonight, we correspond with the property

[3:05:52] owner to say, this is what happened.

[3:05:53] And this is your options.

[3:05:58] Okay.

[3:05:58] Thank you.

[3:05:59] any other questions to staff?

[3:06:01] I believe you can consider the next year's possible next year's designation.

[3:06:09] We will consider things in council comments when we close the public hearing.

[3:06:13] But thank you for bringing that to our attention.

[3:06:16] Hi. My name is Yon Ken. I'm the actually property owner.

[3:06:20] I'm going to talk about reality.

[3:06:23] You know, I have the loan balance of a 1.4 million there.

[3:06:28] If I lose the tenant, and then finding the new tenant is not easy for preschool.

[3:06:36] Also, it's not like you can open the business right away.

[3:06:39] The preschool must have licensed by the Department of Social Service.

[3:06:44] They take from three months to one year.

[3:06:49] So, technically, even though it's extended two years,

[3:06:51] if I spend another one half year to find a new tenant,

[3:06:55] even though trying to release it, they don't have enough time in two years.

[3:07:03] Also, it's just so hard to finance to build a game for the apartment.

[3:07:11] I mean, they're the 1.4 million dollar depth there,

[3:07:14] and the rich banks will give you the loan for 2 million to start a apartment building.

[3:07:20] I think it's a small density, whatever, that's a 16 unit to 24 units.

[3:07:27] But you need about a couple of million dollars to build a 16 unit apartment building.

[3:07:31] And now if I build it for a Spanish $3 million to build a 16 unit apartment building,

[3:07:37] and then I have about four points.

[3:07:40] At least more than four million that.

[3:07:43] The market value is not that much.

[3:07:45] So reality, yeah, I think we can talk about it.

[3:07:48] you can do this and that, but reality really doesn't work.

[3:07:52] So that's what I'm asking, at least mix the use.

[3:07:55] You're trying to keep the current challenge

[3:07:57] as a long way to possible.

[3:07:59] I want them to be there forever by the way.

[3:08:02] I don't want them to move out, but you never know about the economy

[3:08:06] and I don't know much about their financial side.

[3:08:10] So anything can happen, but it's just special.

[3:08:14] It's not like you just open a office, running the preschool day care.

[3:08:20] You need another specialty license in addition to CD permit.

[3:08:26] So it's a little different.

[3:08:28] That's my difficulty at this point.

[3:08:30] That's what I want CD council to consider.

[3:08:34] So at least, kind of prove for the mix they use.

[3:08:40] So if I do the challenge, if I cannot find it,

[3:08:43] Eventually, I have to tell down the true play building

[3:08:46] and the build of Parliament buildings,

[3:08:49] just about 16 to 24 units.

[3:08:52] It's even less than 1 a.k. I mean, you know the buildings.

[3:08:56] So that's what I'm asking about then.

[3:08:58] Thank you, thank you.

[3:09:00] My quick question.

[3:09:03] On the two years to get a new tenant,

[3:09:06] if they could become before the Planning Commission,

[3:09:08] can they extend that time here?

[3:09:10] Yes.

[3:09:10] Well, our code currently, they have a year that it's vacant, right?

[3:09:16] And then they can come in for an extension a month before that year and request one year extension.

[3:09:26] And then if they still don't have a tenant, so we're talking about humanively three years.

[3:09:31] They can come in at the end of the second year and that's another one year.

[3:09:35] Yes, we changed that last year I believe it was in the code,

[3:09:39] because we realized that times are tough and that we need to be a little bit more

[3:09:46] forgiving with regard to our non-performing section of the cup. We did that

[3:09:51] purposefully. So he could have a down they can building for three years and do

[3:09:55] these still. Absolutely. At the end of the third year is there any...

[3:10:00] Choices to be made by the Planning Commission, or it's pretty final, would it come to council?

[3:10:04] There is no choice, it expires, undercurrent code. But we can always change the code, it's your code.

[3:10:13] If we want to put in there or other language, this has three years, that gives them another year, it's your choice.

[3:10:20] So there's always opportunities to change.

[3:10:23] This is one of these days in contact with us and understands when he becomes a non-conforming

[3:10:28] use.

[3:10:29] Absolutely.

[3:10:30] We're always open.

[3:10:31] All right.

[3:10:31] Thank you.

[3:10:37] Good evening.

[3:10:39] My name is Dean Kuzukis and my business address is 501 West Imperial Highway.

[3:10:45] I'm one of Lee Durling's tenants, a speaker earlier, and we're a family owned business that

[3:10:54] been at that location since 79.

[3:10:59] I want to thank staff and EU people for answering a lot of my questions regarding this

[3:11:05] rezoning deal.

[3:11:07] I also want to clarify something.

[3:11:09] You talk about the Parsons 417 to 525 West Imperial as being surrounded by single family

[3:11:16] homes.

[3:11:17] I'm not sure that I would use that terms around it.

[3:11:21] First of all, we have three lanes of westbound traffic,

[3:11:26] a left turn lane on Imperial and three lanes of eastbound traffic.

[3:11:31] We've got the great wall of La Habra, the huge sound wall.

[3:11:35] We've got a creek bed, and then there's homes on the south side of our parcel.

[3:11:45] I guess, you know, so it's a long way away.

[3:11:47] On the north side there is a slope and ultimately some single family homes, but what kind of business do you operate there?

[3:11:55] Auto repair.

[3:11:58] And so I just wanted to clarify that.

[3:12:00] I don't know if that would make a difference in your assessment and rezoning of that parcel.

[3:12:06] I would like to see it stay light industrial.

[3:12:09] Thank you.

[3:12:10] Thank you.

[3:12:17] Council members. My name is John Crab. Actually Dean's neighbor in the complex 511 West

[3:12:24] Imperial's my address. I just wanted to kind of hit on what Dean was saying. You could

[3:12:29] literally take a bullhorn in front of my shop and you could go to any one of the residents

[3:12:33] that you guys are calling neighbors and you would not be able to hear the bullhorn. That's

[3:12:38] how far away it is. So it's not like we're right next door or within a stream away. There's

[3:12:46] over 100 years of people that businesses that have been in there, like Dean said he's been

[3:12:53] since 79, I've been there since 2000, so there's a lot of businesses that have built

[3:12:58] up there, and I think it's kind of a blow to us to not be able to expand. I mean, the golden

[3:13:05] rule is on your business and expand it, and with you guys putting a limitation on us,

[3:13:11] being able to spend, I think it's kind of going to hold us back a little bit.

[3:13:16] The owner lives at a state.

[3:13:17] I believe that the rezoning of residential, you get to see, is going to make the value increase.

[3:13:24] I don't think that they're interested in increase of value.

[3:13:27] If it ever does come a time where it is vacant, then I believe that the owner could approach

[3:13:32] you at that time and change it to a residential zoning in order to benefit them at that time.

[3:13:40] Not now.

[3:13:40] were you referring to Richard Richard Belloy or who were you talking to at a state?

[3:13:46] At a state is the it's budge is the is who we write our check-to. Her name was Annie.

[3:13:53] Lee Derming, his least go here.

[3:14:02] Okay, Lee's the property management. That's what I'm seeing that the owner is not even in the state of California.

[3:14:08] I'm part of the military program.

[3:14:11] Yeah, it's part of the military, but they don't own it.

[3:14:13] They're just property managers.

[3:14:14] So as far as their aspect as far as us,

[3:14:19] I think we've been loyal to them.

[3:14:21] They want to be loyal to us.

[3:14:23] Adding that residential title to it,

[3:14:27] might only entice them to want to sell,

[3:14:28] which would eventually make us move out of the zone.

[3:14:33] That's my opinion.

[3:14:34] When you talk about expanding what exactly do you mean by that?

[3:14:41] When I first moved in in 2000, I had a 2,000 square feet.

[3:14:45] Within a year, I had another 1,000 square feet.

[3:14:48] I currently have 5,500 square feet.

[3:14:50] So over 14 years, I've expanded in the same complex.

[3:14:56] Okay, then I guess the question to step.

[3:14:58] Does this prohibit him from expanding?

[3:15:00] At this we're changing the residential, under the current condition of the youth.

[3:15:07] If an additional industrial suite became available through attrition, somebody moves out.

[3:15:14] You could still expand, yeah.

[3:15:18] So, expand.

[3:15:21] Thank you.

[3:15:23] Thanks.

[3:15:32] Good evening.

[3:15:35] I am the owner of the 520 on the Western Periol Highway. I have a business. I bought this business.

[3:15:40] I work hard for my man, seventy a week.

[3:15:44] I pay two hundred thousand dollars in nineteen ninety-six.

[3:15:47] And I spend like three hundred thousand dollars to improve.

[3:15:51] I am working still seventy a week.

[3:15:54] The only thing that I have is this business.

[3:15:57] And my landlord tells me, because of the city,

[3:16:00] he doesn't extend my lease.

[3:16:04] And I cannot do that.

[3:16:06] I don't have an over to go.

[3:16:08] I want to know who pay for my lust.

[3:16:12] And they told me his commercial.

[3:16:14] They didn't tell me his industrial.

[3:16:16] When I bought the business, nobody told me

[3:16:18] it is not commercial.

[3:16:21] The fact that your property owner is not offering you a lease.

[3:16:24] That is out of our hands.

[3:16:26] Under the recommendations, you could still operate your businesses as it is right now.

[3:16:31] So the fact that he's not offering you a long release,

[3:16:35] that's between you and he's really out of our hands.

[3:16:53] Good evening Mayors, I'm city council.

[3:16:56] My name is Sergio Esclante, I am a house on the way in 100th of Loma Drive.

[3:17:02] I live since 1991 and I become a business owner since 2001 and become a business owner.

[3:17:10] I have a hard time to legal this business.

[3:17:12] I spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to become this illegal and right now to

[3:17:19] We saw in the area and changed the Sony to multiple homes.

[3:17:24] I think so, it's not fair we're going to pay the price for that one, because I working

[3:17:29] hard to build this business, and it's not only me, there's family business, a lot of people

[3:17:35] are friends in this business, and I will ask you to consider it to keep the...

[3:17:42] You have the day care there, is that where you're at?

[3:17:45] That's my wife.

[3:17:46] That's my wife.

[3:17:48] That's the business you operate.

[3:17:49] There's a daycare center.

[3:17:50] What are the business we concerned with there?

[3:17:52] It's my business in 441.

[3:17:54] West deep in your house.

[3:17:55] Okay.

[3:17:56] Okay.

[3:17:57] Okay.

[3:18:00] Because you mentioned law of service drive.

[3:18:02] Yeah, I will not confuse.

[3:18:04] But you have a daycare center then.

[3:18:06] Well, that's my wife.

[3:18:07] It's not my wife.

[3:18:09] But my business in 441 West deep in your house.

[3:18:11] like I said, we have a hard time to make this as a legal it's all with a

[3:18:17] a community, get all the permits, find it or we get it right but right now with this

[3:18:22] recent area now we have to you know I don't know why we have to pay the price for us

[3:18:27] for the recent area you know. Thank you very much for listening.

[3:18:37] Hello everyone, my name is Sergio Salazar, I am part of the same complex building on 517

[3:18:42] was Imperial, just wanted to share something with you.

[3:18:47] I had a business in the city of Fuller Xen for five years, and this is a true story.

[3:18:55] I, after my lease was up in Fuller Xen, I went on a website, and it said, you know, we

[3:19:02] welcome businesses, so I signed up for your lease and then this happens, so I mean at this

[3:19:08] point where, kind of, like, where do we go from here?

[3:19:12] We provide a service to the city of La Habra.

[3:19:16] We're not just spending time.

[3:19:20] We provide, it's all in industrial, and we have outer repairs.

[3:19:27] We have body shops.

[3:19:28] We have fiberglass repair.

[3:19:33] And looking at the plan, it seems to me

[3:19:39] everything has to be turned. We don't have a lot of options where to go in the

[3:19:43] hop. So I don't know if you're really walking in businesses or making it

[3:19:51] harder for us to go somewhere else and that's all I have to say.

[3:20:03] Good evening, Mr. Mayor, and members of the city council. My name is Walter Friedman. I'm the manager of shining star properties, LLC, which owns the property at 120 South Harbour, and 1250 East Lahabra Boulevard. That's the old dealership property that wraps the corner, which is a currently gas station on the southeast Quadrant of Harbour in Lahabra.

[3:20:27] It was, it was a share of a year ago.

[3:20:31] It's changed a couple of times, but it's still only gas station on the intersection right now.

[3:20:36] So our two parcels, one of them is the big dealership parcel with the dealership building

[3:20:40] and then the vacant lot south of the gas station.

[3:20:45] King Otto, are you speaking Otto?

[3:20:46] That is correct. King Otto was there.

[3:20:49] He used to be in the alphabet.

[3:20:50] He used to be in the alphabet Volkswagen and correct.

[3:20:51] So, first of all, I'd like to thank Mr. Hack and Mr. Haramil for meeting with me earlier

[3:20:57] today to discuss several things, first of all ways in which we may be able to be to be more

[3:21:05] compatible and integrate the development of our two parcels with the potential redevelopment

[3:21:12] of the gas station parcel.

[3:21:14] And, too, we also discussed the proposed rezoning of our properties under the revised

[3:21:23] 2,035 general plan.

[3:21:26] And as a result of these discussions, and I believe with the tentative approval of Mr.

[3:21:32] Hack and Mr. Harrow Mio, I respectfully request that our two properties be rezoned to

[3:21:38] to use Center 2 which is the medium density apartment component. For several reasons, first of all, it will allow us to be more flexible and feasible with cooperating with the gas station corner potential redevelopment to it will allow any project to be more financially feasible.

[3:22:03] And three, it would allow the medium-fant multi-family density for the rezoning of our properties

[3:22:12] to be fair and consistent with other medium-multi-family density properties proposed for

[3:22:20] other similar-litterly situated properties.

[3:22:23] And the ones that I'm talking about that are similarly situated are the ones that are in

[3:22:28] or a district that a single family, a single family, lots.

[3:22:34] Those properties are similarly situated to our parcels, and therefore to be fair and consistent.

[3:22:43] I believe that our parcels should have the medium intensity zoning for the mixed use.

[3:22:50] Therefore, just to summarize, I'm requesting the zoning to mixed use center to, for our two properties, under the revised general plan.

[3:22:58] Thank you, and if you have any questions.

[3:23:00] Mr. Frayman, did you were able to attend any of the G-PAC meetings?

[3:23:04] I did not attend any G-PAC meetings, but I did send a letter to planning and zoning early

[3:23:09] last year for requesting a higher, even a higher density for which I got a response which basically

[3:23:18] related to the properties being adjacent to single family, lots and also our parcels having

[3:23:25] little bit more narrow physical characteristic. So, when I came in today to speak with Carlos

[3:23:32] and Carlos and Mike,

[3:23:36] I just kind of amended my request to go to that medium-density

[3:23:39] residential use on that particular parcels.

[3:23:45] Biker, were those his concerns taken in the actual committee?

[3:23:55] Councilman Gomez in regards to the lettering question, the applicant had requested that the use

[3:24:03] be similar to those properties located to the north, which would allow to a maximum of 50 units to the acre.

[3:24:10] And so the response to the applicant was the G-PAC's consideration of the item that for the area in which he was situated based on the size of the property, its location, that the 24 unit designation is more compatible than the 50 units per acre that's located to the north.

[3:24:31] based on conversations that we had today with the property owner and the argument that it may be more appropriate for a lesser designation that would be the mixed use to

[3:24:47] which it allowed for 36 units to the acre which would be similar to the area he was discussing that would not be of a concern to staff if that was

[3:24:57] reason to that that's it or the land use

[3:25:03] So, what are you, what's proposed in the general plan? Currently the committee is recommended to mix use center 1, which is a maximum of 24 units to the acre, and the applicant is requesting and mix use center 2, which are allowed for 36 units to the acre, which is acceptable to staff.

[3:25:26] That would be the situation in which this property is located there, matches similar to those

[3:25:34] that are being rezoned to that kind of density level in the core portion of the city.

[3:25:42] If that request would have been made at the time, the letter was written, then we would have taken

[3:25:47] that request and recommended approval to the chief pack.

[3:25:51] And

[3:25:56] when we start to go to make the recommendations, I would go ahead and like to make that modification.

[3:26:05] Good evening. My name is Jerry Allen. I live in 1981, Randall.

[3:26:11] This goes on with himself, a chef here, and all these other stories.

[3:26:14] But I just felt that I needed to say this.

[3:26:17] I moved to the Harvard 1976, I taught school 40 years, and he's Twitter, so I put in the area quite a while.

[3:26:25] I live, I guess, maybe, well, 50 to 75 yards north of the Boulevard, Randall's being

[3:26:34] the first street, but off of Maysee and Tupeman, and I've loved living there obviously since

[3:26:40] 1981 at that address, but I'm not in my retirement because it's said there, and look at

[3:26:46] the back of a great big apartment building.

[3:26:48] You can call me self, you can call me whenever you want, but I'm just not going to do it.

[3:26:53] And so I realized progress has to go on and Jerry's going to have to move.

[3:26:59] But all these reclassifications and all the things that you people do, that's correct.

[3:27:04] If they may be, it does impact people negatively.

[3:27:08] And I would not have moved now, I think.

[3:27:11] I'm thinking about putting that sign up there, because I just don't see how my value could do anything,

[3:27:17] but go down, looking at the back of the two story apartment building from my living room.

[3:27:25] Okay, that makes sense.

[3:27:27] Thank you.

[3:27:28] Thank you.

[3:27:36] I guess anybody else wants to speak?

[3:27:41] Or against it?

[3:27:44] Can we take a quick five minute rest?

[3:27:45] In that case, I'm going to close the public hearing.

[3:27:48] We'll take a five minute recess and then we'll come back if we have questions or staff

[3:27:52] and further discussion and then an action.

[3:27:54] Thank you.

[3:27:55] Five minutes or so.

[3:28:10] is North of Wittier, Ballard, probably in the case of him.

[3:28:19] I don't know.

[3:28:21] But I will put it the same thing.

[3:28:23] How do you, how do you, how do you do it yourself?

[3:36:13] Great presentation. Thank you. It's been a lot of reading for all of this. So at this point, I will call for questions or discussion by the council, and I do have some discussions that I will further my colleagues to be in.

[3:36:26] Just a quick question. And in all of our analysis there, you know, I, I wondered if we took into account the idea that one day maybe we've always talked about incorporating the different unincorporated county islands.

[3:36:40] And if that were to finally happen, one of these days,

[3:36:45] are all those numbers we saw on housing,

[3:36:48] on transportation, on our emissions.

[3:36:51] And I mean, would that would they be completely thrown off

[3:36:55] if that happened before 2035, or me, that's always the vast majority

[3:37:02] of the county islands are housing.

[3:37:03] Right, but I guess the question is to the consultants,

[3:37:07] did you take into account the residences that were in those county islands as part of your overall

[3:37:12] analysis of traffic planning and air quality? I mean, we're not not talking a lot of homes.

[3:37:18] We're talking probably right around 50 homes total in that orange county islands that are in the city.

[3:37:25] Yeah, the county island areas were incorporated with all the traffic models and all the

[3:37:31] like that was done, because we had the regional growth model that we fit into and all that background

[3:37:37] information was there as a part of the model. So whether you add that land and incorporate that land

[3:37:43] or not, this numbers are still part of the number crunching, if you will.

[3:37:49] And are all those areas already essentially zoned are one?

[3:37:53] I believe that that was my recollection.

[3:37:56] Okay. Yes. All right. So if that's the case that the case goes, the maps actually in the background reports,

[3:38:04] et cetera, incorporates those areas as well. Let me comment, there is a small commercial area that's within

[3:38:10] the county island that's located along the west end of town north of Wittier, Boulevard. Other than that,

[3:38:16] all the remaining county island, so are a residential. So they would be consistent with the change in the general one.

[3:38:21] Yes, we plan for their land destination.

[3:38:28] Yeah, and there are tables, there are tables in the IAR

[3:38:32] that have actually been the numbers tabulated.

[3:38:34] Great, thank you very much.

[3:38:36] Thank you.

[3:38:40] Any other comments, Rose?

[3:38:42] Well, I'd just like to say thank you all of you

[3:38:45] stay throughout this whole general plan.

[3:38:47] I mean, you actually took a crash course on the general plan

[3:38:51] meetings and what took place for us over two and a half

[3:38:55] years, some say three years, so it was a good length of information that all of us took in

[3:39:01] and listened to, and I'd like to thank some of those that were on the G-Pack Committee,

[3:39:05] please raise your hand because Kudos to you for all the time that you gave as well.

[3:39:10] And of course,

[3:39:16] Chairman Mike as well, it was a lot of learning for us, and anything was not

[3:39:24] lightly. Everything was weighed with all that was being thrown at us, literally. All the

[3:39:33] information and these are individuals who really took the time to listen to everything,

[3:39:40] do all their homework, give asked questions and all, and I made the best decisions, they

[3:39:46] could possibly make. I'd like to thank staff. You were patient with us, Carlos, Mike, you know,

[3:39:52] All of you were very patient with us with all the questions that had to be asked as well and of course to Woody in

[3:40:00] And all your staff or agencies, as well. Thank you for all the time that you gave. We are looking at the future of our community. We made the best decisions. I'm optimistic of what is going to take place. I only wish that the property, I only wish that the information that was disseminated from the city to those property owners was disseminated further down to the property management, to the people that are least

[3:40:29] because it affects all of you and somewhere it was dropped along the way because

[3:40:36] because God knows we had many, many, many, many means we had many venues of disseminating

[3:40:43] the information out there and there was as far as I'm concerned because I had them actually

[3:40:50] add some more ways of disseminating the information. So we thought of every possible way

[3:40:57] that you could possibly disseminate the information

[3:41:00] out there to individuals.

[3:41:02] So I commend all of you for what that work that we did.

[3:41:06] This takes place when it hasn't taken place.

[3:41:08] So the general plan has not been revised for 24 years.

[3:41:12] I will probably never be part of the general plan again.

[3:41:16] So for us, it was very wise.

[3:41:18] We wanted to be part of it.

[3:41:20] We wanted to be part of the change that was going

[3:41:22] to take the future of Lahabra.

[3:41:24] And I was very honored to be on there with the rest of the G park and to have all these individuals with so much knowledge that I am comfortable with what decisions we made.

[3:41:38] So I just like to thank everyone for the time that was given.

[3:41:42] I am very honored to take part of this G park as well.

[3:41:46] Thanks, Rose, and I have a list of all of members of the committee.

[3:41:49] We'll bring you a bit of folks back and everybody just kind of a little recognition,

[3:41:54] you know, because it was a job well done.

[3:41:57] Oh, no, I'm done.

[3:41:59] Jen?

[3:41:59] I've said thank you.

[3:42:01] I just want to make a couple of comments real quick.

[3:42:04] I also want to thank all of you who came tonight to ask questions to express your concerns.

[3:42:11] I know that council would look oops, I want to think all of you who came tonight asked your questions and made your comments.

[3:42:18] I know that council will deliberate over them as much and as long and as hard as did the members of the G-pack when they were brought to us.

[3:42:27] I also want you to remember this is a plan. There's nothing in here that sets zoning codes. It makes recommendations on where zoning codes can go in the future.

[3:42:36] And the implementation will require that staff bring those items back to us back to the planning commission for review.

[3:42:43] That means that these issues probably will get discussed again in the future.

[3:42:47] And members of the committee have the opportunity to speak to those at that time, yet again.

[3:42:52] And so stay engaged and do as exactly as Rose said pay attention to when the things come out.

[3:42:57] And get on, for example, on the city's mailing list, I don't know if the GPAC committee is going to stay alive

[3:43:03] and he nailed the scent from that, but perhaps that's something we should be considering.

[3:43:09] Also, I want to point out that there's more to this plan than land use and zoning.

[3:43:14] This is a very, very important document.

[3:43:16] It affects our health or safety or well-being.

[3:43:20] It's more than just that land use, and it's a great document that people need to take the time to look

[3:43:25] to see how are we preparing ourselves for the next 10, 15, 20 years out.

[3:43:30] And so it's really a very dynamic, changeable, breathing, living document, and I can't

[3:43:37] impress upon all of us how important that is.

[3:43:41] And the other thing I want to say is we've gotten some accolades in here for some people

[3:43:44] who've seen this done in other communities, and they're saying that we've done a great job,

[3:43:49] and I have to agree.

[3:43:50] I've done some planning work in my professional life as well.

[3:43:53] And I'm very pleased, I think we have Woody and his staff to thank, we have our own staff

[3:43:58] to thank and we have those members of the community who will recognize it in another talk

[3:44:02] participated.

[3:44:03] This is a great piece of work and I want to thank everybody.

[3:44:08] All right, well thank you.

[3:44:10] I want to have a little discussion on three issues that came up tonight.

[3:44:16] One of the Zon the Mill Biggie Crown Auto property where he was suggesting mixed use center

[3:44:22] to staff seem to concur with that.

[3:44:25] Chat with him a little bit.

[3:44:27] I would like to make that revision to change that

[3:44:30] to next use center too.

[3:44:33] I guess I'm going to do a roundabout motion as I go.

[3:44:36] So that would change the mid to use center too,

[3:44:38] because I think it meets our objectives.

[3:44:40] When you go to the 1700 West La Habibule of Art,

[3:44:46] a technical few minutes will staff again,

[3:44:48] I think it would be consistent with us to change that

[3:44:51] to mix juice one, that correct?

[3:44:57] I think that would work.

[3:44:58] It seems to benefit the owners and both.

[3:45:00] Both those properties.

[3:45:03] Now, the light industrial complex that I may need some help with my colleagues.

[3:45:10] That property actually takes into petboys, smack auto, wall greens. There's a box company and an industrial complex.

[3:45:20] We need to have a consistent throughout the whole complex.

[3:45:25] I don't think I heard, if I heard correctly, and maybe you can validate this, is that the owner of that property, and it looks like they can do long term leases with these tenants.

[3:45:37] It's their choice.

[3:45:40] So that's an issue between the tenants and the owner, to me, we're given the owner options for the property, all of these other businesses.

[3:45:49] So it's just not the one complex.

[3:45:52] So I guess my motion is to leave that as is, unless I'm not figuring that correctly.

[3:46:00] And then pass everything else in the general plan to say that it'll long term leave.

[3:46:05] We can not control.

[3:46:07] Tom, can we consider these individually?

[3:46:11] The 120 South Harbor.

[3:46:12] I think is the one you were talking about.

[3:46:14] And the second was 1700 West La Habra.

[3:46:17] and then the third is the Imperial.

[3:46:19] So there's Elbiqui properties, what address?

[3:46:27] Okay, so those would be mixed use center 2, correct?

[3:46:34] We take them to 36.

[3:46:35] I'll take that as a separate motion.

[3:46:37] That's, that's okay.

[3:46:38] We'll do another motion.

[3:46:39] I move that we change that designation to mixed use center 2.

[3:46:44] Which would take it to 36?

[3:46:45] Yes.

[3:46:47] That would also include the service station at the corner of the service station.

[3:46:51] You want to do all that area.

[3:46:52] Yes.

[3:46:52] Harbor.

[3:46:53] I was second that motion.

[3:46:58] We need the address again, Carlos.

[3:47:00] It's 120 South Harbor.

[3:47:01] And then.

[3:47:03] What is it?

[3:47:04] The Harbor.

[3:47:05] Two.

[3:47:07] Well, I would just reference it to the.

[3:47:10] Armor King Otto.

[3:47:11] Chevrolet South Southeast corner of Le Harbra and Harbra Boulevard

[3:47:18] within every of six eye

[3:47:26] that ties it to the General Plan document.

[3:47:30] So we have a motion in a second.

[3:47:32] Yes.

[3:47:32] Two.

[3:47:34] Two.

[3:47:35] Two.

[3:47:36] Two.

[3:47:47] Okay, so be much motion roll call. Yeah. Oh my second. This is going to these are going to be modification to the general plan.

[3:47:54] We, we, uh, uh, uh, good to send what we're going to do. Yes. Right.

[3:47:59] Take care of the ladies. Yes.

[3:48:02] Counts member Gomez. Yes.

[3:48:04] Counts member Espanosa. Yes. Counts member Shaw. Yes.

[3:48:09] Mayor Pro Tim Blazes. Yes. And then my second amendment to the general plan update is to make

[3:48:15] 1700 West Lavera Boulevard mixed use center one?

[3:48:24] I'll second it.

[3:48:27] And that would be, that would involve the

[3:48:30] parcels located on sub-area map south of Lavera Boulevard

[3:48:35] west of Indiana in area four age.

[3:48:41] Which I think it makes a consistent with that area.

[3:48:43] Okay, so there's a motion in a second.

[3:48:49] Mayor Beamish?

[3:48:50] Yes.

[3:48:51] Mayor Pro Tim Blaise?

[3:48:52] Yes.

[3:48:53] Councilmember Espinoza?

[3:48:55] Yes.

[3:48:55] Councilmember Shaw?

[3:48:56] Yes.

[3:48:57] Councilmember Gomez?

[3:49:00] Then with regards to 440 women, West and Perial, Highway, and that several businesses

[3:49:06] in line there.

[3:49:10] I would keep it the same because it's a bigger area than just that one complex and again from

[3:49:20] what I heard in testimony tonight.

[3:49:21] the owner of the property can do long-term leases, so we guess between them.

[3:49:27] I think my comment from all the tenants that we heard as well as the property owner,

[3:49:33] they all seem to say that they would prefer to remain light industrial.

[3:49:38] I mean, I think that the housing accommodations that we're making throughout the city are

[3:49:44] welcome, I mean we're resulting in putting in the ability to have housing in a number of locations

[3:49:53] and I think that's great, we will have nice new housing coming, but you know I don't.

[3:50:00] What I look at imperial there at that location, I think the right, you know, on the south side of the street with the huge wall, that really divides that center from the south side of imperial, just people don't even see over there and it would be in my mind consistent and and find to keep that use and they seem to not want to have this cloud or uncertainty, if you will, being legal, not conforming so.

[3:50:26] So, are you asking Tim, you want to carve out that one particular property and then have residential all around it?

[3:50:34] Because, well, it would go from 441 West and all the way east, even east of Euclid,

[3:50:43] is would still be light industrial uses.

[3:50:47] Because I don't think the apartment starts home.

[3:50:49] And what I'm saying is that the other property owners, which included pet boys and Mac

[3:50:55] Otto and Walgreens and all of them, they didn't raise an issue about the zoning.

[3:51:01] So because they're not here, I would assume they support that change because they probably

[3:51:07] leave it as value to the property.

[3:51:11] Well, I don't know if we can assume that, I mean, they don't know what to assume, because

[3:51:16] did we get any correspondence or communication from any of those businesses?

[3:51:22] Well, Tim, why don't you make a motion see if you have the votes and we'll go from there.

[3:51:27] Will I?

[3:51:27] Just a minute, Tim.

[3:51:28] Does it do we have any communication coming in?

[3:51:30] Yes.

[3:51:32] We have had preliminary discussions with developers in Mr. Ota, the owner of all those properties,

[3:51:39] about recycling his property to medium high density residential.

[3:51:46] And the other owners, the owners of the property in this question, I have not.

[3:51:51] We've not met in contact with the developer that you assume is talked to somebody.

[3:51:55] Yes, okay.

[3:51:57] But we've spoken directly with the developers and with the property on the Mr. Vota,

[3:52:02] about residential, and obviously he's interested in developing residential.

[3:52:10] Okay, and that property to be exact is Mr. Roberts.

[3:52:13] Yes, the property, and I'm sorry, it's property from you all the way.

[3:52:21] to not including the property, owners, and the tenants that are here tonight.

[3:52:26] From Euclid heading west.

[3:52:29] Yes.

[3:52:29] Up to the property that we talking about tonight.

[3:52:34] Only up to it.

[3:52:35] So that would be Macado.

[3:52:36] That would be that Pepo is Walgreens, the pallet company, all of those uses.

[3:52:43] So the developers are in this and you know, okay, so you have that little industrial complex

[3:52:47] to carve out, I guess.

[3:52:50] So to your point Mr. Mayor, it seems like some of the property owners in this lighting

[3:52:53] industrial area are interested in the change is that accurate to say and then so

[3:52:57] obviously some of the property owners are interested in maintaining it as light

[3:53:01] industrial. So some mix of comments. So the the motion would have to would be the

[3:53:08] the properties between four four one Western period through the two to

[3:53:16] Euclid to the corner at Euclid. Is that basically without encompassing it?

[3:53:22] the cup is so Walgreens.

[3:53:26] I just want to make the most improperly. I'm sorry.

[3:53:28] So you want to keep all the properties as light a best real?

[3:53:34] Well, yeah, I'm not sure if that's capturing some of the properties that might

[3:53:39] because that would be capturing the ones.

[3:53:40] So we're getting them out with the address of the way. Okay, sorry.

[3:53:44] We need to be real clear on. Right.

[3:53:49] Light and dust real light and dust real right.

[3:53:52] Oh, see if he's got the votes.

[3:53:55] Well, I want to see what the map shows.

[3:53:58] Is there a way to put this up on the screen

[3:54:00] a map of this area?

[3:54:03] I don't know that we have a copy that's

[3:54:05] a diva electronic copy.

[3:54:09] Oh, perfect.

[3:54:11] We can't go up on that, think.

[3:54:18] We have the maps in here.

[3:54:21] So, Mr. Wong.

[3:54:23] Mr. Wong?

[3:54:32] Well, what's the idea that they're talking about this one right here?

[3:54:37] Which ones are they talking about?

[3:54:39] Can we turn on?

[3:54:42] We want to take a break for a few minutes.

[3:54:44] Yeah, that'd be helpful.

[3:54:45] Okay, we're going to take a break for a few minutes.

[3:54:50] That one?

[3:54:51] Right.

[3:54:52] And is this commercial or industrial?

[3:54:53] This is commercial.

[3:54:55] So I mean, if they did this with industrial and then kept it restores it in shell.

[3:54:58] Thank you.

[3:54:59] Bye.

[3:55:00] That's something that's good work, right?

[3:55:02] That doesn't make sense.

[3:55:14] I'm trying to get to the mayor's door.

[3:55:16] This is the first time I've ever seen this before.

[3:55:18] Andy, what is this?

[3:55:19] What is this?

[3:55:20] What is this?

[3:55:21] Oh, short.

[3:55:22] This is residential now, right?

[3:55:25] I know.

[3:55:26] But the boat has properties or that one, that one, that one.

[3:55:31] Okay.

[3:55:31] He wants to make a house.

[3:55:33] He's here.

[3:55:35] He's up to speak here.

[3:55:36] Hey, that guy.

[3:55:37] Here we go.

[3:55:38] So I'm saying that early.

[3:55:40] Go tell him.

[3:55:41] The boat has here tonight.

[3:55:43] Oh, my God.

[3:55:48] Okay, here we go, one more, one, one, two, three, and but there, hey, so if that's where's an angel back there, miscomersion on your heart.

[3:56:04] Okay, he wants, he's the guy that's been silent.

[3:56:10] So this, if we carved out that line of keys,

[3:56:14] we can see it's like a green.

[3:56:17] Yeah, that's what I'm going to do.

[3:56:18] I'm not going to have to get the faster.

[3:56:21] I'm not going to get that.

[3:56:23] That's common.

[3:56:24] There are about 80 stands in two votes.

[3:56:26] Here.

[3:56:27] There's a couple of them.

[3:56:29] There's a couple of them.

[3:56:30] There's a couple of them.

[3:56:31] You can see.

[3:56:32] You can see.

[3:56:32] You know, actually, we're showing here.

[3:56:36] Right there.

[3:56:37] Yeah, won't show them.

[3:56:39] You can pair it.

[3:57:52] Like staff to do, if you would, real quick,

[3:57:55] is just show us the properties that are involved

[3:57:59] and what the impact would have on with tennis suggesting.

[3:58:18] Can we darken the lights a little bit?

[3:58:22] Get the mic.

[3:58:23] On the computer, can she zoom?

[3:58:28] Yeah.

[3:58:30] Yeah.

[3:58:30] The only thing that you're going to see now, all right, you know, you know, I'm going to wait

[3:58:37] on the top of the line, the vision of the Christian World's Office, Prime Minister, and the

[3:58:42] property questioned with the candidates to general right here.

[3:58:47] In the testimony he stated, I'm from four, four, one, Imperial Highland and then going

[3:58:54] Westward, which goes up to five or a series of addresses, the early adjacent property

[3:59:01] and I'm just bearer-fighting with all of his hints is that the next lowest address is

[3:59:07] 435 if you rely on it, so that would be Mr. Mozart's property going down all the way to

[3:59:16] for 31 and 435? Yes. So everything from 435 going east, east, east. Thank you. It would be the

[3:59:32] residential designation. If the motion is upheld and then everything west to, to, to the

[3:59:50] So, I make sure I grab the lights back to you.

[3:59:55] Yeah, lights, lights, lights, okay. So, 435 East.

[4:00:00] And that goes to Euclid, right? 435 East, to Euclid, to 440. So the 100, to 435, and that's 106, 100 West, to 435 West.

[4:00:15] All right. So if I was a hot scan menu, so that's Votos property? 435 to, and I'm not sure what the address is.

[4:00:28] And then you have 435 to 441, which is the industrial complex, no?

[4:00:34] 449 starts the industrial.

[4:00:36] 441 got it.

[4:00:38] 2 521.

[4:00:40] Is there anything beyond 521?

[4:00:43] Yes.

[4:00:44] But I believe that's the bar in the 711.

[4:00:47] And is that part of the...

[4:00:49] No.

[4:00:50] Okay.

[4:00:50] Got it.

[4:00:51] All right.

[4:00:52] All right.

[4:00:52] So you have Duffies in that, and the Industrial Complex, and then all residents.

[4:00:56] Okay.

[4:00:57] There I am.

[4:00:57] Make sure.

[4:00:58] So if we were to carve out four these tenants and Mr. Dirling to keep it light industrial, it

[4:01:05] would be 441 to 521 West Imperial, and it changed that.

[4:01:10] My motion would then be to change that designation back or to keep it as light industrial.

[4:01:17] And that is what the owner testified.

[4:01:19] he wanted it to stay as correct. I believe as I understood it. Yes. He's not the owner. The owner is

[4:01:26] back. He's someone's representing the owner. That he represents the owner.

[4:01:33] Hey, that's at your motion

[4:01:34] Tim. That's my motion.

[4:01:38] There is second. I'll second it.

[4:01:45] Counts member Shaw. Yes. Counts member

[4:01:47] Espinoza. Yes. Counts member Gomez. I'm within 300 feet. So I have to abstain.

[4:01:57] I'm a Pacific Avenue, and I'm right by the Walgreens, so that I've actually had an 80 feet.

[4:02:04] Yeah.

[4:02:07] Okay.

[4:02:08] I mean, if I go to prison, you're going to pay my bail be on.

[4:02:11] I'm going to copy a piece.

[4:02:13] I'll bring you a chance.

[4:02:15] But is the Walgreens property what's being voted on?

[4:02:18] It's all part of that all in constant.

[4:02:20] No, no, no, no.

[4:02:20] It's everything other than the Walgreens, so you're probably okay to vote on this because it's not you're not the Walgreens

[4:02:27] It's gonna stay whatever the recommendation on the general plan is and not the opinion of council is as

[4:02:32] That you can vote on okay. No

[4:02:40] pro-tem pleasy no

[4:02:44] Marry comment. Maro

[4:02:48] Okay, so Rose and Tim vote. Yes

[4:03:00] If

[4:03:06] I had this right, if I voted yes, they can come back the owner and always ask us to amend it again right.

[4:03:19] Do you want to ask more questions?

[4:03:21] No.

[4:03:22] Although yes.

[4:03:24] So that keeps that designation for that one property.

[4:03:30] There's multiple.

[4:03:31] There's three properties that kind of three are full in the butt.

[4:03:34] So it's kind of the commercial industrial property.

[4:03:44] Mr. Mayor, I would like to make a motion to do the environmental impact report, approve

[4:03:48] an adoptive resolution and title resolution of the City Council.

[4:03:51] The City of La Habara certifying the environmental impact report EIR 13-201-201-2092, which includes

[4:04:03] finding the facts statement of overriding considerations and mitigated monitoring and reporting

[4:04:09] program for the Haber General Plan 2035-2014-2021, housing element and climate action

[4:04:16] plan.

[4:04:18] Say as amended.

[4:04:21] As amended.

[4:04:23] As amended.

[4:04:24] As amended.

[4:04:24] Friendly.

[4:04:27] Councilmember Gomez.

[4:04:28] Yes.

[4:04:28] Mayor Pro Tim Blaise.

[4:04:30] Councilmember Espinoza.

[4:04:32] Yes.

[4:04:32] House member Shaw. Yes. Mr. Mayor, for the like to make a motion to the General Plan

[4:04:37] of Provin Doppers. Okay. Okay. Yes.

[4:04:45] Approving to Dr. Resolution in Title of Resolution of the City of Hover, adopting the city

[4:04:51] of the Hover General Plan 2035 as set forth in exhibit A and B. Second.

[4:04:57] I'll do this.

[4:05:01] Councilmember Gomez. Yes.

[4:05:03] Councilmember Belazy. Yes. Mayor B. Mish. Yes.

[4:05:07] Councilmember Espinoza. Yes. Councilmember Shaw. Yes.

[4:05:11] You're more questions, Mayor? You're okay.

[4:05:13] How's he now, but a proven doctor, resolution and title, a resolution.

[4:05:17] Mayor B. Mish on the previous action is should be as modified.

[4:05:22] That's correct. That's correct.

[4:05:24] I think that's what Jim said.

[4:05:26] As a matter of fact, City Council, the City of O'Habra adopting the 2014-2021 drafted housing

[4:05:35] element set forth an exhibit A and directs a middle of the document to the California Department

[4:05:40] of Housing and the Community Development for certification is required by state law.

[4:05:46] Seconds.

[4:05:47] Is that as amended?

[4:05:48] Yes.

[4:05:48] Is that as amended?

[4:05:50] No.

[4:05:51] Okay.

[4:05:51] No.

[4:05:52] Can we do that?

[4:05:53] We're good.

[4:05:54] Make a vote.

[4:05:56] Yes.

[4:05:58] Yes.

[4:06:02] Yes.

[4:06:02] Mayor Beamish.

[4:06:04] Further like to make a motion to climb an action plan to prove adopt resolution.

[4:06:07] And title resolution city council.

[4:06:09] The city of Robert Doppin.

[4:06:11] The city of Robert climate.

[4:06:13] Action plan as set fourth and exhibit.

[4:06:16] Second.

[4:06:18] That's as it is.

[4:06:19] And I'd further like to make a motion just so we have it on the record.

[4:06:23] that we have taken into consideration those other actions to all the motion that I made so we don't

[4:06:29] have to come back and vote again in the future day.

[4:06:33] Councillor GOMIS?

[4:06:34] Yes.

[4:06:36] I'm getting I have it.

[4:06:38] Are we good?

[4:06:39] Mayor Pro Tim Blazy.

[4:06:42] Councillor GOMIS.

[4:06:43] Yes.

[4:06:44] Councillor GOMIS.

[4:06:46] Councillor GOMIS.

[4:06:47] Yes.

[4:06:49] Thank you.

[4:06:50] Thank you to those of the Chief Pack that are here.

[4:06:52] A lot of hard work.

[4:06:53] When you think about it, three changes.

[4:06:56] Thank you.

[4:07:01] Thank you.

[4:07:02] Thank you all for coming tonight and having your say.

[4:07:05] Oh, you're not going to leave.

[4:07:06] Not quite as long as the cost will meet him, but pretty close.

[4:07:12] Thank you.

[4:07:13] Thank you, Woody, for you and your team.

[4:07:15] Appreciate it.

[4:07:15] Yeah, we did.

[4:07:16] It's rolled right along.

[4:07:17] And we'll go to consideration items.

[4:07:19] Any member of the audience may request the council on any consideration item.

[4:07:23] Prior to the city council taking a final vote on the item.

[4:07:25] The mayor will invite interested persons to come forward to podium and speak as each item is called,

[4:07:30] speakers must limit their comments to three minutes each.

[4:07:33] We have one consideration, one expiring stream, and one unscheduled vacancy of the Community Services Commission.

[4:07:39] I would forgo the staff report and say we should interview everybody.

[4:07:43] Well, let's ask the public to testify.

[4:07:46] Well, that's true. Does anybody in the public want to testify?

[4:07:50] Didn't think so.

[4:07:50] I'd like to offer a staff to advertise one expiring term of one unscheduled vacancy on the Community Service Commission and schedule interviews.

[4:07:58] Second.

[4:08:02] Okay.

[4:08:02] Council Member Gomez.

[4:08:04] Two second.

[4:08:06] Sure.

[4:08:07] I may or did.

[4:08:10] Mayor Beamish.

[4:08:12] Council Member Espanosa.

[4:08:14] Council Member Shaw.

[4:08:15] Yes.

[4:08:16] Mayor Pro Tim Blaise.

[4:08:17] Yes.

[4:08:18] You want to just give a community calendar?

[4:08:21] Just go to everything.

[4:08:22] No.

[4:08:23] Mayor's calendar. Mayor's meeting calendar.

[4:08:28] I have to just be hungry.

[4:08:29] Is there going to come up?

[4:08:31] Just go to the website.

[4:08:35] There we are.

[4:08:37] Have a question. Give me a call.

[4:08:42] Target free sending.

[4:08:43] Send me every second.

[4:08:45] There's the information and it's on the website.

[4:08:48] Celebrate African-American.

[4:08:49] for Yard Triedays, Robert Jones Museum, Family Arts Center 113,

[4:08:55] Museum Inhibition Call, that fun over there.

[4:08:59] Community Center kids might out.

[4:09:01] It's good event, 6 to 10 30 PM, Veterans Hall.

[4:09:04] Kids, it's all about the kids.

[4:09:06] So if you want to register, then call that number up there.

[4:09:12] 5K 10K run, walk, come run with the mayor,

[4:09:15] and walk with Sandy Walters.

[4:09:17] That's cool.

[4:09:19] Are you running now?

[4:09:23] March 22nd, Community Calendar, Aegean Stravaganza, City Function, Lions are involved with that

[4:09:29] Lobbony at a park on April 19th, a lot of fun, great crowd last year.

[4:09:33] Please note the venue change, Lobbony at a park this year.

[4:09:38] Thank you.

[4:09:39] It was at the Lions Park, so we have to change that.

[4:09:45] meeting's February 3rd February 18th come on down their early enjoyable.

[4:09:51] Is that it?

[4:09:53] Well, I know Jim is disappointed but the meeting is now adjourned time.

[4:09:57] No, no, but we have my meetings.

[4:09:58] This meeting is adjourned.

[4:10:01] Comments from all of them. I'd just like to say happy new year to everyone, glad to be back. Hope you are there. Wonderful holiday. At the same time, I'd like to adjourn in memory of a number of people that passed away. Ralph Edward Garcia, born on January 10, 1969, and passed away November 26, 2013. His mother, Yolanda Garcia, a former resident of Lahabra,

[4:10:29] volunteered in many nonprofit organizations and so her son followed his

[4:10:37] her footsteps in volunteering as well so our condolences go to their family also

[4:10:43] line a Luna a long time resident of Lahabra went attended Wilson School I

[4:10:50] believe lived in the Red Camp as well with Mary to his former wife Mercedes

[4:10:55] who had passed away before him. Born June 24th, 1927, passed away December 28, 2013, has five children

[4:11:04] handy, Henry Theresa, Gloria Arthur, and Lionel Luna. And another John Benjamin Torres,

[4:11:13] born April 12, 1964, passed away December 29, 2013, his mother, Eva, and John Torres. And of course,

[4:11:23] John as well in the sisters were a long time residents of La Harbra as well.

[4:11:29] And also Miguel A. Belize, born April 14, 1961, passed away December 27,

[4:11:38] 2013, lived in

[4:11:39] La Harbra 30 plus years. He has left his former wife, Jessica, and has two children, Luis

[4:11:45] Miguel, and Brian Byron, Edward Belize, and so our condolences go to them as well.

[4:11:52] So, Rose, do you have those written down or I'm not sure you did?

[4:11:56] I did.

[4:11:57] I don't know.

[4:11:57] Pass that down.

[4:12:01] My little comments are to think those who served on our General Planet Advisory Committee

[4:12:07] and are all the staff and consultants who are so hard on that.

[4:12:10] Thank you.

[4:12:14] Again, thanks to staff, everybody in the GPAC committee.

[4:12:17] A couple of deaths I'd like to recognize.

[4:12:18] I'm going to turn in the memory of Joe Lassdition.

[4:12:21] A long time, advocate for youth sports.

[4:12:23] You can see him in all the Sonora and Lavera High School football and basketball games.

[4:12:27] He was a former board member of the Lavera Lillig and also Girl Softball, so we're going

[4:12:33] to miss a Joe when the Arkansas Squad was wife Kathy.

[4:12:37] On a sad note today, Larry Rush's wife has married to Dorothy Rush former council member

[4:12:42] passed away this morning.

[4:12:43] He had some problems with his heart and other medical issues.

[4:12:47] Unfortunately, Larry passed away this morning.

[4:12:49] And lives down the street from east of our condolences go out to the entire Rush family.

[4:12:56] Congratulations once again to all the holiday decorating awardees.

[4:12:59] And I want to thank the beautification committee for all the work that they do.

[4:13:03] And putting that on some of the other things in the community.

[4:13:06] I too would like to encourage the community to come out and support our seniors by attending

[4:13:10] Post-Afest on Saturday at February 8.

[4:13:13] RSVPs are due this Saturday.

[4:13:15] And once again you can call a van a sharp at 714-32265-875.

[4:13:20] and for tickets or information.

[4:13:24] In case you've missed it, the call is out for the 2014 Miss La Haber

[4:13:27] and her court.

[4:13:28] The bad news is that applications must be postmarked or turned in at

[4:13:32] the La Haber Chamber no later than tomorrow.

[4:13:35] So if you know likely candidate out there,

[4:13:37] please vacate them, know the time and short,

[4:13:40] and then the 66th pageant will be held on March 22nd.

[4:13:44] And finally, I want to give a quick shout out to Father Justin McCarty,

[4:13:47] who recently announced his retirement effect of the summer.

[4:13:52] His years as pastor have exemplified what it means to be part of a caring community.

[4:13:57] And I know that we'll all miss his smiling presence in our community once he finally

[4:14:02] rides off into the sunset in a golf cart.

[4:14:05] So that's it.

[4:14:05] Father McCarthy, richly and regularly watches these kinds of things.

[4:14:09] You know that's why it's loud out.

[4:14:11] So hello Father McCarthy.

[4:14:13] So congratulations to Father McCarthy.

[4:14:15] I should have mentioned that as well.

[4:14:16] He does a lot for this community and I'm sure they're going to miss him and certainly may or if you consider bringing him into a council meeting before he

[4:14:24] leaves and

[4:14:25] Recognize them that'd be great. Okay, step, make another that we'll do that. And let's do a nice frame. Let's do something nice

[4:14:33] Then I would like to adjourn this city council meeting in the name of Ralfid, Wood Garcia

[4:14:38] Lionel Luna John Benjamin Torres and Miguel Valese and Larry Rush and Joe less Titian

[4:14:46] good. We need to adjourn in their names. Thank you very much.

La Habra City Council

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