LaPaz Town Council Meeting 2026-01-20

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[0:00] is uh for EM Paving of Rochester, Indiana.
[0:10] I usually read these twice just so everybody hears me.
[0:19] » I thought I left my head at home.
[0:27] All right. So, it looks like the bid
[0:32] uh for EMB paving is 98,1816.
[0:41] That's 98108.16.
[1:00] All right, the next uh bid is from Pulver Asphalt Paving Incorporated of
[1:06] Albian, Indiana. >> And what's the name of that again?
[1:08] » Pulver PU LV R out of Albian, Indiana.
[1:21] All right. And
[1:28] looks like the bid from Polar is $117,935.
[1:37] So 117935.00
[1:43] All
[1:55] right. So, the next bid is from Milestone Contractors of South Bend,
[1:59] Indiana.
[2:22] All right. The bid from Milestone Contractors is $147,900
[2:30] 147900.
[2:33] 0
[2:40] The next got a lot of scanning to do. >> Uh the next bid is for Pavement
[2:47] Solutions Incorporated of Middletown, Indiana.
[3:11] This has on the front. I just want to make sure. Um, looks like the total base
[3:16] bid from Pavement Solutions Incorporated uh is $68,216.15
[3:26] 68216.15.
[3:32] So, is that just on Michigan Road? >> I guess I guess when we fax them up, we
[3:39] can find that up. >> I was going to say, yeah. So, this is
[3:42] Michigan Street from Southtown limits to north town limits. The cracks.
[3:46] » So, that's just crack. So, that was >> So, do we have multiple different types?
[3:49] » Supposed to be one supposed to be one project, one bid. Okay.
[3:53] » So, that bid doesn't you don't need to scan that cuz that doesn't apply.
[4:12] take that one out of the equation. >> Uh, let's just leave them all together
[4:15] because usually we give them to the engineer to to review.
[4:19] » Yeah, she's sick today. So, she'd ask if we could scan and send Yep.
[4:22] » to her. So, >> um, and I'll talk to you about that
[4:24] actually. If your scanner is slow, we can do it at our office if you want. So,
[4:29] um, so this is a bid from Rereath Riley
[4:33] Construction Co. Incorporated out of Southbend, Indiana.
[4:50] Looks like the bid from Rereath Riley is 126,647
[4:56] $640.97. So that's 126640.97.
[5:18] And then uh from DC Construction Services,
[5:24] the next bid, >> they dropped off two. Um the next one is
[5:29] also from them. So I wonder if they did two separately.
[5:33] » So it looks like there's two bids here. You're right. From DC Construction
[5:36] Services. One is marked paving project. The other one is marked crack and seal
[5:42] project. All right. So, the bid from DC DC
[5:47] Construction Services of Pendleton, Indiana.
[5:52] » I thought that was written up that it was just supposed to be one bid instead
[5:55] of two projects. >> Well, that's kind of for the engineer to
[5:58] say whether they've uh replied properly. Um, so the bid from DC Construction
[6:04] Services for the paving project is $121,745.21745.
[6:13] So zero
[6:27] then
[6:30] uh this is the DC construction services again of Pendleton Indiana their bid for
[6:35] the crack seal project.
[6:49] And the bid uh for the crack seal project is for $84,197.50
[6:57] 84197.50.
[7:03] Looks like we have one more bid. Uh again, it's marked as crack seal
[7:08] project from Howard Companies out of Indianapolis, Indiana.
[7:38] Are you coming?
[7:51] All right. So, the bid from Howard Companies uh appears to be
[7:59] in the amount of $69,940 no 69904.0.
[8:17] » All right. Thank you, Tony.
[8:21] Um, I recommend you make a motion to take them under advisement. Um, get
[8:27] those shipped out to the engineer and let them tell you who make a motion to
[8:32] go ahead and take these under advisement and get it sent to the engineer and
[8:36] prove for you to go ahead and take it to your office and have them scan it and
[8:38] send it from there. >> I'm second. Any other discussion? No.
[8:42] » All those in favor signify by saying I. Okay. Motion carries.
[8:47] » Any other new business?
[8:52] Um, I did complete my uh SCR today for um you have to have somebody that's
[8:59] approved to do any of the projects. So I that has to be updated every year. So I
[9:03] did complete that today. Got all that sent in. So um that'll along with the
[9:09] quarterly report. So we're I guess I'll cover the rest under old
[9:16] business. um old business. So, it looks like the
[9:20] total is $7944 collected for lights. So, we know we
[9:24] definitely need to advertise that better uh next year. Um I dropped the box off
[9:30] down um at one of the places and they set behind the counter so it won't go
[9:36] down there anymore. So, I told people that yep, there's a box down there, but
[9:40] nobody could find it except for the people that work there. So, um, and
[9:44] then, uh, you got second and Roger's mom got third. So, which do you want?
[9:51] » There's, uh, >> there's two
[9:52] » two things sitting out there. So, you get to pick one and whichever one. I'll
[9:55] » pick one goes to third place. >> Whichever one you don't want, I'll take
[9:58] » You take You pick first and then I'll take
[10:02] » I hate when you fight over stuff. >> Um,
[10:07] the other old business, we just got to make sure that we've got our sidewalk
[10:11] project. um cleaned up and we get everything submitted for the POS. If the
[10:16] way the law is written is if there's no activity on a PO in 6 months, they close
[10:20] that project out. So, we got to make sure we've got everything submitted
[10:24] there so we can get it closed out and get everything.
[10:28] » Um so, I did try to attempt well I contacted Chad first to see if he could
[10:33] help me. He advised me to contact the um other engineer uh advanced engineering
[10:41] um Brad Minnik. Um so I attempted to reach him. He no longer is with them. So
[10:46] they gave me the person that is taking over his spot. He had absolutely no idea
[10:52] of anything that I could do. So, I actually scanned everything over, sent
[10:56] it back to Brienne, and asked her if she could fill out a mock form for me to
[11:00] kind of go off of because what they're asking, I haven't a clue. So, if she can
[11:05] at least help give me a guiding starting point, um, then we'll be all set and I'm
[11:11] set to do that on Friday with her. Um, hopefully if she gets back with me, I'll
[11:16] come in Thursday evening and do it. Um, but otherwise, Friday, that's the number
[11:21] one thing on my list to do. So, I didn't have much help today trying to get that
[11:26] figured out, but I have been playing email tag back and forth.
[11:28] » And she's she's real good with helping with different stuff and if not, she'll
[11:32] get you to the right person. So, >> um
[11:37] I guess on old business, I'll just add this in here. Um we need to go ahead and
[11:42] make sure it's posted on what your hours are so people know.
[11:45] » They are posted um on the outside anyway.
[11:48] » Okay. I know Kathy had somebody hit her at the post office and they gave her an
[11:52] earful for quite a while >> and that was one of them and
[11:56] » we've addressed the rest of them. So, >> yep.
[11:59] » All right. Thank you. Any other old business?
[12:02] » Can I ask a question? Yes. I normally don't come to these things. I'm sitting
[12:07] here >> pavement solutions to to get
[12:10] information. So, was that project is this supposed to be bidded together like
[12:14] the >> We'll let the engineer My understanding
[12:17] was was it was supposed to be bid together.
[12:19] » Okay. >> But we'll let
[12:21] » I know we was just doing the crack seal. So, I didn't know if that was two
[12:24] separate bids or >> Yeah.
[12:27] » Um, we'll let the engineer take a look at that and then let us
[12:30] » then they'll contact you. Okay. >> Sorry, folks. I'm leaving.
[12:34] » Yes, you're fine. Thank you. They wanted me to write that information.
[12:37] » I meant to dismiss that back and I forgot.
[12:40] » All right. Thank you. You folks have a nice
[12:41] » Thank you, too. >> Thank you.
[12:43] » Um there's something else on hold.
[12:50] » Let me have to come back to you. >> I will tell you that that same person
[12:54] had said that our um Facebook is not updated. It is updated. Um our website
[12:59] is updated. So, I'm not sure where she's looking. Um but I'm I mean I post things
[13:04] on Facebook. Um so, I'm not positive. >> Okay. I know what the other thing was.
[13:09] We need to get that uh pole number at the top of the bridge where that lights
[13:12] out. >> There's another one out.
[13:15] » The one in one at the very top is out. It never came back on.
[13:19] » All right. >> So, get that out today then. Yeah.
[13:22] » Before I >> unless they unless they came and fixed
[13:25] it, but I mean >> No, cuz I'm having problems down by the
[13:27] rain, too. >> Yeah. The one at the top of the bridge
[13:30] that had the Christmas on never came on. >> Where's the power together?
[13:37] » Well, yeah, I know the light. >> Give me that one. No,
[13:39] » Christmas one would be >> I'll call in both of them at the same
[13:41] time. >> All right. Thank you. Um, police
[13:44] department. >> Uh, we do have our new golf cart
[13:47] stickers for 2026. So, anybody that needs one needs to get a hold of us, we
[13:51] get that taken care of.
[13:56] » I had to get it from >> No, we'll get it. So, uh, anybody needs
[13:59] one, just pass the word around. We have them now so we can get these tagged
[14:02] correctly and then if we don't, we'll start enforcing that ordinance.
[14:06] » So, Jen, you'll go ahead and post that. >> I am. Yep. It's on my list of
[14:10] » All right. Hey, it's been updated. It's updated as of January 20th or whatever
[14:14] they should get it updated. So, there you go.
[14:16] » Um, the only other things that I have are the one ordinance violation that we
[14:21] wrote back in November. We've never heard any contact from them yet at 200
[14:25] South Main. Okay. >> So, um I don't know what we need to do
[14:29] about it at this point. So essentially um
[14:36] I don't remember exactly what those was that trash.
[14:39] » It was the trash and rubbish piled up in the backyard.
[14:43] » I've addressed every every other issue with them parking parking in the road,
[14:47] parking in the alley, abandoned vehicles, trash overflowing.
[14:51] » And this was a a rental property, am I right?
[14:55] » Yep. The only thing that's not been cleared
[14:58] up or at least hasn't gotten better is the big pile of
[15:02] stuff out back. >> And so, you know, some direction from
[15:06] you at this point, I guess, is appropriate. Um, typically what I would
[15:11] say is next step would be to go ahead and file it. Um, bring it into court
[15:17] consideration, get a court order, uh, either that it gets done or that we have
[15:21] authorization to go in and do it. The only pause I have about this, and I
[15:25] shared this with Dan at one point, is the weather isn't exactly this isn't the
[15:30] most conducive time of year. And if they've complied on other things, I
[15:34] guess I'd be willing or I guess I'd ask you if you want to let the string out
[15:39] maybe until the weather gets a little more mild, say in March. Well, the
[15:44] letter you sent out started to find him for
[15:48] » and he he's never responded to that, but I know he'll probably say I never
[15:52] received it. >> It was sent certified to
[15:55] » I I was sent and I opened up the envelope and there was nothing inside
[15:58] it. >> No, at that point I don't think the the
[16:03] because if you're going to enforce that kind of a fine, typically you're going
[16:06] to do that in court >> and I I think the court would find this
[16:10] to be credible on service. Yeah. So, >> so yeah. So, it's it's just a matter of
[16:17] whether you want us to to string that out a little bit more. If this was June,
[16:21] we wouldn't frankly even be asking. But, um,
[16:26] » and similarly, we have addressed other properties with the same problem and
[16:28] they have cleaned it up. >> Yep.
[16:30] » So, >> well,
[16:32] » what if we send them a 60-day notice? I my so you say 60 days from today's
[16:39] date basically saying or the day of the letter
[16:42] » up 60 days or else we'll be filing. So okay
[16:45] » have you spoke with a gentleman that's there now
[16:49] » in front >> uh the back in the back
[16:52] » um I don't >> because I I think that they have had
[16:57] someone move out and move in. >> Okay. Um, I think that it's still within
[17:03] the relatives, but it's not a lady and young children. Okay. Right now,
[17:08] » the last one was the lady. >> Yep. And they had originally gotten rid
[17:11] of that dog. There is a different dog there now. Um, but that's all I know is
[17:16] that it seems like it could be a different person living there. Not a
[17:20] whole entirely different person, but within that area. But all of our
[17:24] communications are going to be with the landlord too because ultimately they're
[17:27] the ones that are going to be on the business end of the team. Right. So
[17:34] » uh the other thing I have is I do have another uh application for a reserve
[17:38] officer um who reached out to us. So I'll give that to you to look through.
[17:44] Um and then I have uh statistics for the month. So a little bit of a busy month
[17:48] for December. Um, seven tickets were issued, 60 calls for service by police,
[17:53] 23 were responded by Laz PD, and we had one arrest last month.
[18:01] » Um, will they let my wife out on weekends now? Not yet.
[18:08] » I forgot.
[18:13] Um, Jen, if you could make copies of this and I'd just like to everybody look
[18:17] through them. We're just gonna scan it and email it to us every time.
[18:20] » I can forward the email to you guys. >> Okay. If you would, that'd be great.
[18:23] » Better. Okay. >> Better yet. Thank you.
[18:26] All right. MVH
[18:30] » quite a bit. >> This is where Chad needs.
[18:33] » Yeah, this is where Chad and Dan and Tony kind of need to come into play as
[18:37] well. >> Okay.
[18:38] Um earlier today I spoke with Zach from Marsh County PD. Um we had some problems
[18:47] here in town with addressing uh Max Market
[18:53] uh SB Storage and Leaz Diner and McDonald's.
[19:00] They're not using their three-digit address for the town. So in city limits
[19:07] you have a three-digit address. Outside the city you have a four to five. Um
[19:13] what flag distance brought it up was we had a call at Max Market
[19:18] um believe what month ago Chad >> something like that. Yeah.
[19:22] » They give a fourdigit address and it when they did that it pinged up in
[19:27] Plymouth. So the address they give us was uh 2083
[19:35] South Michigan Street. If you pull that up, it goes to Plymouth. So 911 got
[19:40] confused. Dispatch almost disregarded them once they found out as market
[19:45] dispatched the correct agency. Um I guess in 1993 the town was annexed them
[19:53] and since then they've been using their four-digit address. we need to switch it
[19:57] to the three-digit. >> 1993,
[20:01] a lot of addresses changed throughout the town. Yeah.
[20:04] » They they redid everything and uh Linda was one that went through and they redid
[20:09] all the addresses and >> Right. Yeah. And she g me a whole list
[20:14] of everything right here that is wrong. Um but their big concern is everything
[20:19] south of the stop light right now. Nobody's using their three digit.
[20:24] They're asking what can we do to get them to do that?
[20:28] » Why would it be a three digit south of there?
[20:30] » Because they're still in city limit >> until you get if you're north of 28.
[20:35] » If you Google it, >> it don't come up Michigan Street. That's
[20:38] clearly a 911 mistake, >> right? Well, they're saying that
[20:42] » what does Beacon show? >> They're saying his address now is 895
[20:47] Michigan Street. >> Beacon has 2083 South Michigan Street. I
[20:53] forget the lady's name. That was she was here from Beacon. Um
[20:56] » Diane >> Diane,
[20:58] » she was she was here today and she's the one that actually flagged it and brought
[21:02] it up to the concern >> because they're not using the 895 South
[21:08] Michigan >> and it's what is coming up in their in
[21:11] their information like when they call the big the longer address is what pops
[21:17] up and so then even if it's different then it is the 911 operator that's
[21:22] trying to figure out it's not showing where supposed to show this is where
[21:26] this is coming from. So, they want that confusion to be lessened so they can get
[21:32] to where they need to be >> a little quicker.
[21:35] » Why don't we do a letter to each of the establishments and um DV I'll drop them
[21:41] off or whatever and just kind of explain why they need to use that or you can
[21:45] explain >> Westford
[21:47] » for that address. >> 2083 South Michigan.
[21:49] » If you search 2083 South Michigan, it shows up. So that means that's Michigan
[21:54] Road, right? >> So when we say they're not using the
[21:57] address, what what do we mean by using? Is it not like
[22:02] » Yeah. When according to Diane, when they call into
[22:09] 911 or anything and they give their address, she is 203 South Michigan
[22:14] Street. >> So the the person calling gave that
[22:16] address. >> Yeah. But it should have been 895 South
[22:19] Michigan Street, >> not Michigan Road.
[22:22] street because >> I'm just saying it says 2083 South
[22:26] Michigan Street in the GIS itself >> and Diane's over at the GIS department.
[22:32] » Yeah. So, she's got it wrong. >> So, it looks like it's something they
[22:35] need to work out. >> Yeah. But she said it was us that we
[22:38] needed to take care of. >> I think there's two things going on
[22:40] here. One is the improper addressing beacon and the other is the people
[22:43] giving the wrong address over the phone. >> Oh, I agree 100%.
[22:46] » Right. And that's why that's what I mean by when we say using but the the issue I
[22:52] think is with any annexation the town assigns not the town the county actually
[22:59] assigns the numbers >> um
[23:05] but it wasn't it wasn't annexed in it that had always been the property line
[23:10] for the town. >> Yes.
[23:11] » So that was always in town property. It's just they came in in 93 and changed
[23:15] what redid everybody's address because the county said that we we had to
[23:19] » Yeah. They said that we had 1993. >> But I think these things are
[23:26] then >> uh like these addresses had to have been
[23:29] assigned then. But if they haven't been, they
[23:32] » and there are some other ones. >> She did say that the property owner has
[23:36] to go through the auditor, the county auditor to get these addresses put in
[23:40] correctly >> for the three-digit numbers.
[23:43] » So, it's nothing Diane can just fix. They ask me
[23:46] » No, that doesn't surprise me. They take the information. So, we need to have the
[23:50] property owners >> contact
[23:54] to get the updated address and beacon, >> but that will never happen.
[23:59] Um, like I don't expect that anybody would do that. So
[24:05] the the thing that I don't get is that was 30 years ago,
[24:09] » right? >> How did they not just push those numbers
[24:11] out from the get-go? U because more recent annexations I've done, the county
[24:17] was driving everything on the change in numbers. So I I guess I'm
[24:22] » there's no way cuz Arby's is 855 which would make
[24:26] McDonald's >> make a 900
[24:30] » should make them a 900 >> right
[24:32] » and they have 895 is McCartney which can't be right
[24:37] » right and they have the SB storage on there as well
[24:40] » where is that >> but that's that little blue building
[24:43] next to McDonald's across from Max but that's not a Michigan road their their
[24:47] frontage is 2A Right. >> I don't think these numbers are right
[24:52] personally. >> Yeah. I Because if you look up,
[24:58] » but here's the thing. Even if the numbers are wrong, it sounds like they
[25:03] need to be um and this you're right public safety issue. has to be.
[25:10] » But I think we need to dig into exactly what that process is a little bit with
[25:15] the county because if it falls on the property owners to do it, they have no
[25:20] motivation. Like if >> if they're getting all their mail there,
[25:25] they're going to have to go and get it. >> Well, I guess do they use the PO boxes,
[25:29] too, I guess. Or >> Yeah, you have to have But technically,
[25:32] they do not have PO boxes. like I'm mailing to Plymouth in order for them to
[25:37] get there. >> So, the diner has a mailbox out front. I
[25:41] don't know if they use that, but I did see that there's a mailbox out front.
[25:44] » I don't know. It goes directly to >> our diner with that, but
[25:48] » I know, >> but if I was a homeowner
[25:51] » and you gave me the option, >> I just wouldn't do it, right? Because I
[25:55] don't have to go through and update my >> Except for if you realize it's going to
[25:59] affect emergency services. >> I I Roger. Right. I'm not sure everybody
[26:03] has that foresight. Um, so they're going to look at the immediate inconvenience.
[26:08] I That's why it's important to do it. Don't get me wrong,
[26:11] » but that's why if it's a >> if it's an order from the county,
[26:16] » one that makes it different, but I think the county may have the the ability to
[26:21] just do it and say, "Guess what? This is your number now."
[26:25] » Right? >> So, I I think that's what we need to
[26:28] talk to the county about. So, and I again I can't I just can't believe it
[26:32] hasn't been it wasn't already done back in 1993.
[26:36] » The lake. >> So, you're saying the east side should
[26:40] be a >> I thought the east side was
[26:42] » I thought the east side was odd number. >> It is here in town.
[26:46] » It shows up in CAT as a Lakeville address too by the way. So, there's
[26:49] obviously there's something wrong. >> So, and that's another thing I pointed
[26:52] out to him because if they dispatch anybody to the trailer, Gatewood 2403.
[26:58] » Yeah. Yeah, they don't even have >> if they say Michigan Street, it goes to
[27:00] 2403 Michigan Street Trail Court, which is by Little Caesars. So, if they say
[27:04] Michigan Road, then it goes to us. If they say Street, it goes to to the town.
[27:09] » So, they have more than just our little issues, but they want us to correct our
[27:13] issues if if we can. >> Who would have the list of what it was
[27:16] supposed to be back then? Do you have any idea
[27:19] » or the funny thing is I think those numbers are determined. It's by a
[27:23] measurement. It's not like they pull them out of thin air.
[27:26] » Correct. Um, so the the numbers should be what they should be. They may have
[27:31] some of them wrong and we just need to get that refiged out.
[27:33] » I mean, I know mine stayed the same. Mine didn't change.
[27:36] » Two of ours stayed the same. >> I do believe the last time I was
[27:40] checking this six flip-flops them at six.
[27:43] » Really? >> Yes. Because I remember talking to
[27:48] » should say hello. >> What the heck is his name?
[27:52] » It could be. >> I can't remember his name. sense to do
[27:54] it. But >> but he had come here and we were talking
[27:57] about that and it does go off of a measurement. So there's a guide on there
[28:01] on the measurement and it's not just like a square piece of property or
[28:05] whatever. And I'm almost positive now that you say that the odds should be on
[28:09] one side. I'm almost positive he said that it flips on the south side of
[28:13] » it should flip from the three digits to the four or five digit number. Correct.
[28:16] But our numbers inside the six town limits. I think the odds and the evens
[28:21] on six is what I'm saying. >> If you go off 2403, which is
[28:25] » on Michigan, that is a odd. So, that would still
[28:29] » Yeah. >> different than the town.
[28:31] » What about the ones on US 6 >> 262?
[28:34] » What about Speedway? >> Well, that's what I said. Speedway is in
[28:38] our is tech city limit, but they have a fivedigit address. They still go by the
[28:43] 12,000 >> 908
[28:48] » Michigan or >> we talked about that if you remember
[28:53] because >> Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying.
[28:55] But technically in town it should be a three-digit number.
[29:00] » Speedway speed. You want other ones on US6 that are
[29:04] three digits? They all >> because cuz if you you can't have the
[29:07] same three. >> They go Arby's goes by Michigan Road.
[29:10] Uh, Ammo goes by Michigan Road. The liquor store that they just put in is
[29:15] three-digit and they go by Michigan Street.
[29:17] » So, the only one that's not is on six. And see, that's where it be confusing
[29:19] cuz it's a three-digit on six. >> Well, I wonder about that. You know, the
[29:22] old gas station there. I wonder what that is.
[29:25] » Where? >> Oh,
[29:27] Utah Albert's Corner. >> No, the other side just across from the
[29:32] gas station across from Speedway Brad is >> Yeah, where Brad had his
[29:35] » because we even talked about injection plastics in the media.
[29:38] » Yeah. And I said something about jectured plastic and that's that's a
[29:40] five-digit number as well. >> They're outside the town limits though
[29:44] » according to her map. They are next into our town. Yeah.
[29:46] » Yep. Just >> they're right on our
[29:49] » edge in there. >> Actually shows Ber being in city limits
[29:55] as well. >> We did invite them to the meeting this
[29:57] evening. >> Betchers was never in the city limits.
[29:59] » I know, but her map shows them. And that's that's what I was confused by.
[30:02] I'm like Beter was never in our city limits
[30:06] » cuz Arbor was outside. Y >> just
[30:08] » just outside it stopped at the old house, wasn't it?
[30:11] » Beam house beam. Yep. Beam where they house.
[30:14] » So when they when the guy bought the hardware and then bought the property
[30:18] next to it, I don't know if that would have changed anything putting it all in
[30:23] town if he merged them properties together. I don't know how that would
[30:27] work. >> I don't know. That's why I told her I'd
[30:30] have to ask tonight because I I'm confused on what she's trying to get.
[30:34] But I think she >> Well, it's it's going to be out of our
[30:36] control. >> Exactly.
[30:38] » And I asked her if Tony needed to be the one talked or wrote up a letter and she
[30:42] said she didn't know. It was kind of up to our town council and but we're all
[30:46] kind of at a to it. >> The first the first suggestion was that
[30:49] the letter come from us and simply says because of these reasons, we need you to
[30:53] use this address which are the 800 numbers that she had given us um and try
[30:59] to go from there. And she said it's really in their discretion. Like they
[31:04] don't do it, they don't do it, but it will delay emergency personnel.
[31:09] » That's kind of it. You send a letter to somebody and say, "Hey, if you're call
[31:11] 911, use this address." >> Mhm.
[31:13] » And it's like, "How many people that work at Max Market's going to know?"
[31:16] » 795. >> Yep.
[31:18] » Is what it shows on here. >> Yeah. And the Marathon is 840.
[31:21] » That's weird. But yeah, >> but if they don't say Michigan Street,
[31:25] they're going to send us north of town because of the other 800 block just
[31:28] north. >> We did talk about that as well.
[31:30] Lakeville versus Lopez and where that's at road versus
[31:34] » north. Yeah, I have my days. But if it was north
[31:38] » cuz the north side of first road is >> by
[31:43] the south side of the first road is still within our city limits right
[31:46] there. So with the exception of over the bridge on
[31:51] the west side. >> On the west side, right? Because Paul's
[31:54] 316 road. Yeah. >> So yeah, anything on the east side on
[31:57] the north side is township, >> right?
[32:00] » And vice versa of if you're on the west side, on the north side is town,
[32:03] » right? >> Until the alley,
[32:05] » right? >> Right.
[32:10] » Well, just one other thing. Um it looks like we need to talk to the county uh
[32:15] plan director. Um, and I'll reach out to him. I know him real well.
[32:20] » Um, but one of the thing is they refer to it as a 911 address on one of these
[32:27] legal doc or one of these forms from the county. And I wonder if
[32:34] you can have a 911 address and a mailing address
[32:38] » cuz Yeah, their mailing address I'm sure they would keep.
[32:41] » Yeah. >> You know, I've been getting my mail.
[32:44] They have mailboxes down there instead of mailboxes boxes as well.
[32:48] » Yeah. >> Well, I'm saying Max Market
[32:53] » Diner >> McDonald's does not because it goes to a
[32:56] different state, but Max Market and the diner do not have PO boxes, at least to
[33:01] where I'm mailing. >> What about the S SB storage?
[33:05] » I don't know that I mail anything to them.
[33:07] » Maybe we don't need to get into those weeds. We just say you have a 911
[33:12] address. You need to put this by every phone. You need to post this in a place
[33:16] where your employees and patrons can see it
[33:19] » that if there's an emergency, they're calling and reporting this address. And
[33:24] that may be where we leave it. >> That's probably the simplest thing to
[33:27] do. >> Yeah. My question is was that 911 call
[33:31] from the cell phone or from a landline? >> Landline.
[33:33] » Cuz then it should be posted from whatever that carrier has for the
[33:35] outbound address that they're responsible for maintaining. The
[33:39] landlines probably the 20 28 road. >> They're trying to take human error out
[33:45] of the problem, which I get. But >> well, that very well could be because if
[33:51] they only use the landline there at max market
[33:54] » and if the landline shows that address, then that's what it's going to show up.
[33:57] » Yeah. >> So like here we had to program it
[33:59] specifically and advertise it as the address here. You call 911 from our
[34:02] phones. So, >> we may want to just have someone with
[34:06] the fire department have that conversation with them.
[34:08] » That's why I brought Chad in. >> Well, just to impress like this is this
[34:12] is going to be a problem. We're not saying you're changing the mailing
[34:15] address. >> But if that phone call came in from the
[34:17] landline there at Max Market and that's where the confusion started. It's
[34:21] » it's the phone company. >> It's the phone company. It's not going
[34:24] to fix it. >> But I'm just saying they're going to
[34:26] need to take some steps to change that with the phone company.
[34:28] » Yes. Yep. >> Everything even the address for the
[34:31] sewer plant. You try to Google that, it brings you up. You're close to the
[34:34] intersection. >> So, I don't even know where they got
[34:37] that address. So, I can't even give that to people because they they come up to
[34:41] the intersection. Where you at? >> Everything's all messed up. Moral of the
[34:45] story, it's not just them. >> Anything else, Roger?
[34:50] » Um, I just received a phone call tonight uh about a project that's going in on on
[34:56] the town here. Didn't know if we had the right training. I also brought Chad in
[34:59] for that as well. Um, not really for sure what they're really asking.
[35:03] » That's the one that I called you on. >> I'll handle it.
[35:05] » Okay. Is there anything the town needs to worry about?
[35:10] » You know how they get >> Mhm.
[35:11] » They want their information 3 days ago and they've, you know, don't give you
[35:15] time to take care of it. >> It's not going to include any of our
[35:18] sewers or nothing like that. >> It's the pipeline that runs up by the
[35:21] school. >> Oh,
[35:23] » I I >> I'll talk to you after the meeting.
[35:25] Okay. actually. Um, yeah, I'll talk to you after the
[35:30] » bring you up to date. >> Yeah, I was unaware of it. So, like we
[35:35] need to contact Chad. >> Yeah.
[35:37] » So, that's why I brought Chad and talk. >> No, we'll do that after meeting.
[35:41] » Um, other than that, no, I don't really have have much. We're still in snow
[35:45] season, obviously. We're going to take a little better care of it. Uh, thanks for
[35:50] Steve backing me up when I was gone. We'll get it handled from here.
[35:57] That's all I have. >> Um, how come Doug's hours said zero?
[36:02] » He didn't work month >> cuz that was for December.
[36:05] » Oh, okay. That's right. He piled in January. Gotcha. Right.
[36:07] » Yeah, he just did January. >> All right. Sewer department.
[36:12] » I don't have anything. >> All right. Um, I do.
[36:16] » Okay. >> So, once the weather breaks, we need to
[36:18] get that tile back in the ground up by Albert's.
[36:22] So, I don't know whether we need to get Haskins or whether we can do that or or
[36:25] what you want to try to do there. >> Okay.
[36:28] » The one we were going to do in the fall, but our back went by.
[36:32] » Yeah, I know you mentioned, but you want to get that done.
[36:34] » Yeah. >> Um, I'll look at it more.
[36:36] » Okay. >> See what we can do.
[36:39] » Patron comments.
[36:43] Attorney, we got a contract to sign.
[36:48] » All right. You have anything to add to it? Uh, I don't think I have anything.
[36:52] Oh, I guess I should give a little bit an update. We did get uh one binder
[36:56] scanned. Uh, we'll work on the other one. She is slowly working on the uh
[37:01] digitizing of the old ordinances, though. That's coming kind of as she's
[37:05] got time. So, we will uh keep working on that. It may be a little while, but
[37:11] we'll have an update for you uh once we start getting it into uh a more codified
[37:18] format.
[37:28] So this um actually I think you were more you was at that meeting so you may
[37:33] just want to go and discuss that. So there is a program that the county
[37:41] had run uh through OKRA a few years back and uh I think they were still doing
[37:48] kind of the tail end of the projects in 2025. So you may if you watch any of the
[37:53] county meetings you might have heard about them but essentially it was an
[37:56] owner occupied housing rehabilitation program and uh there was a meeting uh in
[38:03] late 2025 uh several of the municipalities got
[38:06] together organized by Mr. plots uh with the county. Um essentially we were kind
[38:12] of educated on how that grant program was was still being run. Um
[38:19] for Le Paz's perspective, um the county is going to make an application
[38:26] and uh we are included in that. So uh the good news is you guys don't need to
[38:33] make a separate application. Uh the county is trying to cover any area that
[38:39] isn't going to apply because of Oakra's grant restrictions. Some of the towns
[38:43] are having to be pretty careful because uh when you apply for this grant, it
[38:48] means you can't apply for another one for a certain period of time. So,
[38:52] they're having to be kind of thoughtful about what else they have coming down
[38:55] the pike in the near future. But, uh, right now, and I I don't think this is
[38:59] necessarily set in stone, but the county is kind of saying if you have homes that
[39:04] you would want included in this, we may have room for you to take you kind of
[39:07] under our umbrella. So, they're not doing just the unincorporated areas.
[39:11] They're doing literally anybody in the county. Uh, but they said right on the
[39:15] jump that that would would include Le Paz. Uh the problem with it is it uh
[39:23] requires uh some match. Uh and I hope the county will uh make the match for
[39:32] Leaz. Um maybe they will, maybe they won't. That needs to be ironed out for
[39:37] sure. Um, but uh it looks like See, this was a couple months ago, so I
[39:44] don't remember exactly, but um I want to say it was about
[39:52] Yeah, she's got the breakdown here and you got my notes on it. So, essentially,
[39:59] um this is a rolling grant. Honestly, in this day and age, I don't know how much
[40:04] longer this program will continue to exist after this, I think, next two-year
[40:09] window, but the county is applying for the max. Last I heard, uh, for uh 5,000,
[40:14] $500,000. Oh, it is uh 10% of the total project costs, and I want to say it's
[40:20] capped at, um, something like $25,000 per home because there's some
[40:24] administrative expenses that get kind of factored into that. So, you'd have a
[40:28] $2,500 investment from the town if the county isn't going to make it. Um, the
[40:34] way that I kind of thought about how could we make this useful um would be if
[40:43] Dan and I identified any homes that had issues that could be addressed
[40:50] by um this program. we could find uh an owner who was willing to to help or make
[40:59] their application and follow uh what they need to follow through on for this.
[41:03] It may help us um maybe stop some housing issues, stop some code
[41:09] enforcement issues before they get to the point where we're starting to write
[41:14] tickets. Um, so this would be something where uh if you have folks uh fixed
[41:19] income older folks uh uh lowincome households, this would be a chance for
[41:25] them to fix some issues uh at a pretty good rate. um you know for what it
[41:33] provides. I think the county did more some interior issues in their first
[41:39] round and that was enough of a problem that they said we're not doing inside
[41:43] stuff anymore because you had to do some asbestous testing and some things like
[41:48] that. Um and so they're really trying to stick to exterior
[41:52] uh projects. Uh and I think the examples they gave would be like helping people
[41:57] with the new roof and some things like that. So, uh, some of this may be an
[42:01] advertising issue, uh, where it's getting the word out to people. Um, but,
[42:06] uh, the county is going to have to kind of lead the way on saying, "Okay, we've
[42:12] got the grant." I believe I heard they were submitting it. I haven't heard if
[42:16] it was submitted. I have no idea what the time frame for an award is. Um, but
[42:21] it is something that we need to keep our ear to the ground because it would be
[42:25] available to your residents uh when the uh if an award is made. So,
[42:31] » so I know it was the late '9s was the last time that the passive themselves
[42:35] filed for this and then my neighbor's house. They got windows in it and they
[42:38] redid their bathroom and >> did quite quite a bit of improvement and
[42:42] you know, of course it it was uh they was below the income level and the two
[42:47] kids they did quite a bit of work on the home and updated a lot of nice things.
[42:51] » Yeah. No, this could could be a real godsend for for some folks. So, um, it's
[42:58] just something to keep your our eye out from. And then we may have to go, you
[43:03] know, kind of actively recruit some people and say, "Hey, this seems like it
[43:06] could really help you. You need to apply." So,
[43:12] okay. All right. Do you have anything else?
[43:17] » Uh, no. >> All right.
[43:21] uh financials and make a motion app to approve APV5605
[43:24] through5658 for $173,29743
[43:29] from December 11 to January 20th of this year.
[43:34] » Second. >> Any other discussion?
[43:37] » All those in favor signify by saying I. >> Okay. Motion carries.
[43:41] Um one other thing, the uh we had a meeting
[43:47] with the fire department. um last week. I'll leave this with the town. This was
[43:52] the runs and a lot of the different paperwork um from you know joint being
[43:58] together. They do have a new um the next meeting we wanted to do on March 23rd at
[44:05] 6 p.m. at the fire station.
[44:09] And that would be a territory meeting instead of like this was just a joint
[44:13] meeting between the township and the town.
[44:19] unless they get um you know some new recruits or something before then um it
[44:24] would be March 23rd
[44:29] and I'll go ahead and turn it to the clerk.
[44:33] » Okay. So, uh, we met for party at the park, the committee, and there was a
[44:40] suggestion of turning this completely around, making it um, not a fundraiser
[44:46] of any sort. Um, also not making it a dayong thing. So, um, there is interest
[44:54] in making this a couple of hours to just have basically community gathering.
[45:03] Um, so I was said to bring it to the committee and find out if that's
[45:07] something that sounds interesting. If I'm being honest, I don't know how much
[45:13] I can give to putting together something that
[45:19] it does benefit the community and gathering, but that's it. Um, so I don't
[45:26] know how we feel about that. Um,
[45:32] guess we don't need to make that discussion tonight, but
[45:34] » sure, >> think about it and um, I'll reach out
[45:37] because I know the church enjoys doing a breakfast and that's always a good
[45:40] fundraiser. Um, people seem to like the parade. Um, August seems like a terrible
[45:46] time to do it. >> They are still interested in doing the
[45:48] parade. In fact, um, Steve Cox is the one that would take that over. Um I
[45:53] think he's to a degree saying he did not wish to do
[45:58] the breakfast. >> Oh, okay.
[46:00] » So, this suggestion actually came from him.
[46:02] » Oh, okay. >> So,
[46:04] » I'll reach out to him then. We'll get back together later.
[46:07] » Okay. And then wanted to let you know um everybody's aware of the trailer that
[46:12] had burnt down on Thumper Trail owned by Mary Daniels. She sent a letter in with
[46:17] her payment um asking us to discontinue her services. Um I wrote a very nice
[46:25] professional letter back. Um I have it if you want to read it. Basically saying
[46:29] the steps of you need to get this capped off. Let the sewer company your sewer
[46:33] department know. They'll come out look at it and then we can um basically do
[46:39] away with that bill. So, and I don't know, and again, we
[46:44] don't have to decide this tonight, but that might be something that, you know,
[46:48] for the people that can't, it's like a service that we offer. And then we'd
[46:52] have to come up with an hourly rate to say, "Okay, yep. We're going to come in
[46:56] and this is going to take two hours and here's the rate we're going to have a
[47:00] back over there." So, you know, you've got, you're not looking at no $30 an
[47:03] hour. >> Mhm.
[47:07] sort of to add to that. Um, I was there obviously for the fire. I've been back
[47:12] there numerous times. There's zero gas. The gas meters pulled. There's zero
[47:16] electric. The electric meter was pulled. That was caused the fire. Um, I don't
[47:22] know if that messes with your pump or your lines or anything back there.
[47:26] » Nothing's going to work. But, um, but she did say that they wanted to cap it
[47:30] off and have have us come inspect it. Okay.
[47:35] I don't know if it'll be done correctly if they do it the way that they're
[47:39] wanting to do it. So, I think that Steve should go talk to them before they do
[47:44] that to express what has to be done. >> Yeah,
[47:53] they should reach out. Yeah, >> he's capped out before the tank.
[47:59] » Well, and that's what they're that's where they're wanting to do it after the
[48:02] tank. And that's why I said I think they need to talk to you before they do
[48:07] anything back there before we do anything.
[48:10] » Okay. >> And I just followed protocol on what we
[48:12] did um with the other house in town. Um they did not cap that house off. So they
[48:17] are still paying. Um I did receive a phone call about that as well. And I
[48:21] said I'm sorry. The only way I can remove that is if it is capped off. So
[48:24] I'm just following the protocol as far as the letter was concerned.
[48:30] » Yep. Basically, it's that's the ordinance I think.
[48:35] » Yeah, that's pretty much. So, >> so with that being on top trail,
[48:38] » it's not part of town though. >> Tony, is that being that is not part of
[48:43] town, is there a cleanup process that they need to do back there?
[48:48] » Go through the county. >> That's that's a that's a hazard back
[48:51] there. Well, but usually that's I think done through plan commission enforcement
[48:57] and whether it's our baby like the countyy's going to do the plant
[49:01] commission enforcement for the town either way. So I
[49:04] » see that's that's not property. >> Well, I understand that but I'm just
[49:07] saying even if it was it's still the plan commission, right? So
[49:11] » yeah. >> All right. Anything else?
[49:16] » That's all I have.
[49:20] Oh, I make a motion to adjurnn. >> I second it.
[49:23] » All those in favor signify by saying. Megan. Meeting adjourned.