[0:01] Okay, 7 o'clock. Please rise for the pledge.

[0:06] » I pledge to the flag of Americus.

[0:29] Robert Lairway >> here.

[0:30] » Ramped >> here.

[0:32] » Shannon here. Dave Tberson >> here.

[0:37] We have a

[0:42] we have the agenda approved or in front of us here. There are no objections.

[0:48] We'll accept it as written. Seeing none, agenda is approved. Consent

[0:54] agenda. Any additions, corrections, questions?

[1:01] Entertain a motion to adopt the consent agenda. Motion

[1:06] » motion made by Lairway to accept the consent agenda. Is there a second?

[1:09] » Second. >> Seconded by Pee. Further discussion.

[1:13] Seeing none, all in favor say I. >> All oppose say no. Motion carries.

[1:22] Okay. reports and presentations.

[1:27] I want to thank Tim and his staff for a yman's

[1:33] effort during the ice storm with all the trees and ice and everything down and

[1:39] cleaning off the roads in the last couple of weeks. It's been uh it's been

[1:44] more of a challenge getting down cold water and river road than it is in Lake

[1:47] Isabella. So, >> I know that sometimes we take that for

[1:51] granted. I sure don't though, and I appreciate it. Also, I have a uh award

[1:58] to give Tim from the International City Managers

[2:03] Association for being a member for 25 years.

[2:10] » Tim,

[2:16] to clarify, I've not been here 25 years. >> Correct. A motion.

[2:21] » Yeah. 22 on groundhog's day. >> He was here. You were in Breenidge.

[2:27] » Yes. I was a council member. Bracken Ridge.

[2:32] » Yeah. That explains a lot. I moved over to the dark side.

[2:38] So, I only had to convince seven people to give me a job, not 200 to vote for

[2:42] me. It was a lot easier. >> Good point.

[2:45] » Congratulations, Tim. Thank you for all your efforts. They could have given this

[2:49] to me in person, but I had to fly down to Tampa on the bill's dime and I

[2:52] thought this would probably

[2:58] miss his opportunity. >> I would have approved it though.

[3:01] » Yeah. >> Wouldn't you?

[3:03] » Yeah, I would have. >> Yes.

[3:05] » All right. >> Next time.

[3:06] » Next. You should tell us in sooner. >> Yeah.

[3:09] » 25 years. We could approve it. >> Yeah. Bit his 50-year one. He tampo.

[3:16] » All right. Mr. manager, your report. Um, yeah, plowing a lot of snow, cutting

[3:23] a lot of trees. Um,

[3:27] going through a lot of salt, a lot of sand. Um, you know, no two winners are

[3:32] alike. Uh, this year, that ice storm we got realistically was probably one of

[3:38] the top five storms in my 22ish years here that we've had to manage. Um,

[3:44] simply from a a tree down standpoint, the new John Deere with the grapple was

[3:51] unbelievably awesome in that event. Like we were we legitimately probably had a

[3:56] hundred tree or tree limbs that we had to clean and we were done by two o'clock

[4:00] the next day because it was pick it up, move it out of the way, pick it up, move

[4:03] it out of the way. Um, >> a lot of good positive feedback from

[4:06] that. had a call from Ike King on Monday thanking us for the the work that we did

[4:12] to keep the place somewhat drivable Monday morning. Um but yeah, this

[4:17] winter, you know, we had a little bit of a rep reprieve. Um but it's it's been

[4:23] pretty taxing, you know, December and January so far and the next

[4:28] really to the end of the month is going to be cold. So, um, but I'm plus side,

[4:33] not to be a weather man, but if it gets cold, the big lakes might freeze up a

[4:37] little bit. That'll choke off the lake effect. Hopefully hopefully that'll

[4:42] that'll help moving forward. Um, but on to my report. Um, I did reach out to

[4:50] the county. Uh, we were seeing a vehicle that was being continually left

[4:53] overnight at Gilmore Park. Um through some back and forth they did agree to

[4:59] they put up like you know camping sign. Um I did give them a copy of the deed

[5:03] from Lake Isabella to the county that pointed out that you can't park camp

[5:06] there. So you know sign would be the least they could do in my opinion. Um

[5:12] but yeah car was parked there for like four or five days in a row overnight.

[5:16] Just left. Um it was back this weekend but gone. So

[5:19] » there were people fishing at night. >> Yeah. you know, um

[5:26] that car was there the whole time like snow was on it, no tire track leave like

[5:30] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[5:30] » Um >> keeping it warm.

[5:32] » And that kind of leads into the next point. In the budget, we approved funds

[5:35] for two street lights, one at Queensway and Seilla, one at Dquesta and the

[5:39] Lotto. Um giving that type of activity where we've seen at the park, which is

[5:44] more frequent people hanging out there in the evening,

[5:48] not during ice fishing season, right? Um, to me that's a place that a third

[5:52] street light would be a wise investment. So, I haven't gotten the prices back

[5:55] from homeworks on that yet, but um, I would look at probably adding a third

[6:00] one to our plan this year just for that for a deterrent type thing. You know,

[6:04] that's such a convenient location that you can park way back and no one really

[6:08] sees you. If we can throw some light on that park, it may encourage people to

[6:12] find another place for whatever business they are transacting in that park.

[6:16] » The side advantage too is lots of deer cross there.

[6:18] » 100%. That's great. >> That would really help there.

[6:21] » Yeah, we do have a sign there. Yeah. >> Deer can't read.

[6:27] » And the sign is lovely. >> It's lovely. It's a lovely sign.

[6:31] » You know, like on 20 it says like next three miles. I was going to get on one

[6:35] that just said everywhere.

[6:39] » Um yeah. Um we did put the dam inspection

[6:44] report for 2025 up on our web page. So if you were to go to our website under

[6:48] the year community tab there is a whole page that is the lakea dam and we have

[6:53] over 30 documents um inspections reports all that stuff going back to the

[6:57] original construction. So um that was born out of um the discussions going

[7:02] back to the draw down in 2014. We wanted to have a single repository

[7:07] that the community can go and look at all the stuff and come to whatever

[7:09] conclusion they want to make about the dam and that kind of stuff. But uh there

[7:12] was no issue with the dam inspection report this year. Um, so right now it's

[7:16] still on that every three-year cycle uh because it is considered a high hazard

[7:20] dam. And then uh lastly, our Misha grant money has been submitted for final

[7:26] approval. So should we should be receiving those funds hopefully in the

[7:29] near future. >> They got downgraded though. So damn,

[7:34] it's fair, not satisfactory anymore.

[7:39] » What part is fair? >> Uh I I haven't read all the way through

[7:43] the report. Um, I've just heard rumblings about it. There's some small

[7:47] maintenance things that are easily fixable.

[7:50] » Sure. >> Um, I think there's brush and trees and

[7:54] like a chain link fence that needs to be put back up or something to get back to

[7:59] the satisfactory. But I thought it was worth noting that.

[8:02] » Yeah. It was not structural with the dam though.

[8:04] » No. >> No. But it's still I mean it's still a

[8:07] diary.

[8:12] Okay. Any other questions, comments? >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Wolf. Miss Vinger,

[8:20] public safety committee met at six o'clock. What did you come up with?

[8:26] Anything? Um we discussed um some of the options that we are

[8:32] thinking about presenting to the public on the layers of um funding versus

[8:38] coverage um and versus if we

[8:44] fully sign if we contracted out versus in-house coverage. Um

[8:48] » so you're doing a cost differential. Yeah, we're trying to um think of the

[8:54] best way to present the best information so that it's not an overload on data,

[9:00] » right? >> Um we are going to meet again and

[9:04] continue. >> Okay. When's your next meeting? You

[9:08] know, yet you said >> 17

[9:12] of next month. >> Next month. Good enough.

[9:16] Any questions for anybody?

[9:22] All right. Public hearings. We have none public comments.

[9:28] Anything? Nothing. Existing business.

[9:33] Uh we look to our airport liaison

[9:38] memorial airport. Mr. Corser may have been here, but he's

[9:44] not here. Is there any update on that? So, he stopped in um last week and just

[9:50] had a couple questions about when they would take over the insurance payment if

[9:56] that was the only payment that would be required for the lease option. They're

[10:01] very interested in the lease option until they can get all of their ducks in

[10:05] a row and then take over the airport completely. But until that point,

[10:10] they're interested in the lease option. They just needed to know if they were

[10:13] going to be responsible for the insurance from like January through June

[10:18] of this year or if the payment would start in July at the new fiscal year

[10:23] when the new insurance comes out. >> Okay. And and and we're paid up until

[10:28] I think June 30th actually. No, it's into August, isn't it? Because the

[10:32] airport policy it doesn't match tightly on the fiscal year. It's a little bit

[10:37] after, but I would say Labor Day ballpark.

[10:41] » So, so they we already paid that. >> We've already paid for the this fiscal

[10:47] year. >> So, and they're aware of that. They just

[10:50] didn't know when it ended. They wanted to know if they were going to be

[10:53] responsible like once they took the lease over if we if we were gonna like

[10:57] prorate it to where they would still be they'd be responsible for the months

[11:01] even though they would then pay us back for what we've already paid

[11:05] » um since they were leasing it or if that payment amount would then start when

[11:14] » and I told them I told Tom that that would be a council decision.

[11:19] » Yeah.

[11:22] So what direction do we want to give them?

[11:26] So what do we think? >> Well, we're basically just leasing it to

[11:30] cost and then then they're are going to be responsible for the upkeep and

[11:34] everything from that point forward. Correct.

[11:37] » Well, when they when they have the lease, they're responsible for

[11:40] everything. Correct, Kim? >> Correct. Yeah. Well, the way that we

[11:44] would want to do it is we would still do the insurance and the the lease amount

[11:47] would cover the insurance, right? Gotcha. Yeah.

[11:50] » Right. So I mean the lease amount is just for the insurance coverage more or

[11:53] less as well. Getting >> you know so if that's that's the case in

[11:57] my mind I think the insurance money that's although it's already paid if

[12:02] should be reimbursed to the village if they're taking it over from that point

[12:06] going forward. >> Yes. How much is that by the way?

[12:10] » Like $1600 roughly a year.

[12:14] » Yeah. Oh yeah.

[12:17] » Okay. That's not >> okay. So that would be that would be

[12:21] included in their lease payment >> or that would be their lease pay

[12:24] » that would be their lease payment. >> Gotcha. And they're fine with that. They

[12:26] just wanted to know >> they want to know are you going to make

[12:29] them pay the full 1,600 or just >> break it down

[12:34] » the six months of that 1600

[12:39] » whenever they took the lease. I think whenever they lease

[12:43] » so the remainder is what you're saying. the remainder.

[12:48] » I don't care what you guys do. Yeah. I I I don't I mean, we already spent it, so

[12:52] » we've already spent it. Yeah. Like >> Yeah.

[12:54] » I just think there my only thing is there should be like a hard cap before

[12:57] we renew it. Like you got to make your decision by

[13:01] » Yeah. You know, July 1st or we're going to cancel that policy and then that's

[13:06] over. >> We're not going to have an airplane.

[13:10] » Yeah. How much time did he say indicate that he need Did he indicate online

[13:14] meeting? >> Not necessarily. He said that they are

[13:20] in talks. It's hard for everybody to get together right now. Um they've got one

[13:27] person working on the LLC. They've got another person working on some other

[13:31] logistics. >> Okay. Do we want to send the hard cap?

[13:36] We want to set it now so that at least Jessica has something to say to them. He

[13:39] asks. >> So tell me what we would say

[13:45] » like Brent said June 1st or whatever. >> Yeah. I could care less if they

[13:51] reimburse us. We've already paid the policy, right?

[13:54] » We already signed up for it. I mean, that'd be an olive branch. You have six

[13:57] months to >> 90 days before the policy expires.

[14:00] » Yes. >> Yeah.

[14:02] » Yeah. We say 90 days. >> We want written notice or, you know,

[14:05] we're look to >> we're just going to remove it from our

[14:07] policy. So we agree with that, >> you know, so we save the money

[14:11] » rather than collecting cash now. >> Right.

[14:13] » Yeah. >> Right. I don't want that to stop them

[14:16] from taking over the lease, >> right?

[14:18] » Yeah. Since we've already paid it on rent.

[14:22] » Yeah. >> But I mean at some point I mean we've

[14:25] been talking about this while I mean at some point you got to say like there's a

[14:30] deadline so it has to progress. >> Yeah. I'd say 90 days before the policy

[14:36] expires. >> Okay. It'll expire 90 days or there our

[14:41] date would be what? 90 days. >> 90 days to accept a lease or 90 days to

[14:46] take it over because at that point then are we not going to do a lease?

[14:50] » It's not what I say. You're saying 90 days before the insurance is done before

[14:55] insurance policy ends. >> They have to take the lease.

[14:58] » They have to sign a lease 90 days before a policy.

[15:00] » And they're fine with that. They want to sign a lease right now. That part

[15:03] they're great with. They said yes, they'll do that because that gives them

[15:07] the time to continue working on taking the airport over. Their only question

[15:11] was will their payments, you know, how much they need to start up front

[15:15] » or when would they start paying? That's their only question. They'll sign a

[15:18] lease as soon as it's ready. >> I

[15:23] I would just say new policy. We've already spent the money.

[15:26] » Yeah, I agree. >> Right. Yeah, I agree.

[15:30] » So, their payments would start >> with the new policy. the new policy. We

[15:35] could write the lease though and have that start now.

[15:38] » They can have the lease now, but >> Okay. That's

[15:41] » in the lease. It'll you you'll take over that will be written in a lease.

[15:45] » Yeah. >> But you have to assume the liability.

[15:48] » Yeah. Or the airport's on their own meter.

[15:50] » Yes, >> it is. So, it's separate.

[15:54] » Yeah, it's on a separate meter. And there's a transmitter uh option. So, if

[15:57] you're a pilot, you can dial in the frequency, light click three times,

[16:01] they'll come on, they'll come off, whatever you do.

[16:03] » Um, we also have it set on a timer now, a dawn till dusk. Um, that way if

[16:09] there's a radio issue, something like that,

[16:12] » emergency land, you know, they're they're on. And frankly, I think they

[16:16] just look decent being on at night. They really do.

[16:19] » Well, that was just something I didn't know was, you know, what how we were

[16:22] going to handle the power if they pay the bill because we wanted them on all

[16:25] night. That'll be part of the lease. >> Yeah. Yeah.

[16:28] » They'll transfer that to them and >> then they property mowing the power

[16:33] almost nothing more than the power bill.

[16:38] » They've already looked into that as well. I mean, he's asked what it was and

[16:41] I've told him >> it's like 78 bucks a month. So, and he

[16:46] and some of the other airport people were part of, you know, setting it up to

[16:50] where it's on at night. So, they're not going to have any issues,

[16:53] » you know, with that. >> Okay. Good. Perfect. Thank you.

[16:58] » So, you know what to say. >> Yes.

[17:00] » Okay. >> So, we could perhaps expect at least by

[17:03] next meeting. >> Yes.

[17:04] » We're going to have to write for these. >> Yeah.

[17:09] » So, so realistically at least in the next 60 days. Yeah.

[17:13] » Yeah. >> Okay.

[17:14] » Next couple. >> Okay.

[17:16] » New business proposed ordinance 20261 land division act regulations.

[17:23] though among found that interesting camera.

[17:26] » Yeah, our community has a pretty unique history at the land vision act. Um our

[17:32] original planning commission here, Mr. Jack Walker when he was a lobbyist for

[17:35] the real association was one of the primary authors of the current rendition

[17:40] of the land division act as adopted in the mid 90s. Um yours truly worked with

[17:45] the MML and a couple of senators to come up with this proposed amendment to the

[17:49] land division act. Um, specifically what this does is right now under the act,

[17:55] um, everything that was legally existing as of March 31st, 1996 is considered a

[17:59] parent parcel. And the act says that based on the size

[18:04] of your parent parcel, these are the number of divisions you get. It's based

[18:07] on acreage. And if you were to create a new private road or new public road, so

[18:13] there's no driveways going onto a new road or you retain

[18:18] uh 60% uh you get bonus divisions and etc etc. And then the law says after 10

[18:24] years any of those splits are eligible for redivision based on this size

[18:29] metric. And that's it. That's what the law says. Well, 1996, I hate to tell

[18:35] you, was like long time ago, 30 years ago. I know this because I graduated

[18:38] high school in 97. Like 30-y year reunion is coming up next year. So, um

[18:44] the law never, you know, like we call it parent parcel, we call it child. Well,

[18:49] it didn't count for grandchildren or great-grandchildren, which you'd be

[18:52] getting into in a few years potentially based on the age of the act. Um, and

[18:57] what we came up with in what um, came out of a a request from downstate

[19:01] specifically was if your local community has an ordinance that says you can do

[19:06] additional divisions, why do you need the act? Like, let the local communities

[19:10] decide how they're going to handle this. You know, they can they can grant

[19:14] additional divisions beyond what the state baseline is. Um, we haven't really

[19:20] looked at any type of tweaks in our land division ordinance for, you know, ever

[19:24] really since we adopted it. Uh, so I did a little clean up on that, but most

[19:27] importantly, I included verbiage that would account for that new change in the

[19:30] statute, which was given immediate effect when Senate Bill 23 was adopted

[19:34] that allows us as a village to grant additional splits beyond what the land

[19:38] division act allows. And um, I don't have the computer up tonight, but an

[19:43] area where this is incredibly impactful uh, would be the the remaining 10 acres

[19:50] on the wet matter state property essentially. So down at the south end of

[19:54] the lake we have Red Fox Court and we have Eagle View Drive. And originally uh

[19:59] the Lead Better family was going to do a subdivision there called Indian Meadows.

[20:03] They couldn't get approval from the health department for the number of lots

[20:06] they were going to put in the subdivision

[20:09] um because it was sandwiched between South and Gulf Estates too.

[20:12] » It was really the issue. Uh so they went and did divisions under the land

[20:16] division act. Well part of that division process they left about 9.8 8 acres in

[20:23] roughly a square shape that Fronts on River Road. Now, under the the previous

[20:29] wording of the law, they've already used the parent parcel splits.

[20:35] The child parcel, which would be that 10 acre, could be divided into two parcels.

[20:40] I believe they have two 5acre parcels, >> right? And as the state was looking at

[20:44] how do we create developable real estate for our housing shortage, this is one of

[20:50] the things we went to them and said, you need to make it easier for communities

[20:53] to be able to divide up land that is too small to go through the platting or the

[20:58] site condo process into developable property. said, "Actually, that does

[21:03] make a lot of sense because right now the only options would be site condo or

[21:07] plat that 10 acres out and you're you're not going to get enough money out of

[21:11] that to do that type of process." And you know, a plat's going to take a year

[21:15] to go through. It's a cumbersome process. Um, so now what this proposed

[21:20] ordinance change would do would say as long as the parcel meets our zoning for

[21:27] the size of parcel size of the district, you can you can divide it out. And if

[21:34] it's under an acre though, we require you to provide well and septic, you

[21:38] know, val verification from the health department. So, at the very least, we're

[21:43] going to be able to get 10 10 parcels out of that that one to allow, you know,

[21:47] future development there as opposed to two without having to do end road

[21:53] egress. >> Yeah. So, that was the other change in

[21:56] here. Um, when we did the clean up to the zoning ordinance last year, we wiped

[22:00] the slate clean on private roads. You can't do this anymore and we're not

[22:04] doing it, etc., etc. Well, we need to make the following changes in the land

[22:08] division act changes because it was permissive to doing private roads right

[22:12] now. So, >> bill.

[22:15] » No, that that was our ordinance. >> Yeah. So, cleaning that up. So, there's

[22:19] consistency here with the zoning ordinance that you can't do a private

[22:22] road anymore. >> Okay.

[22:27] » As all ordinances, it has to be formally introduced by a member of the council

[22:31] and a hearing set before you can take action on it.

[22:35] Okay, I'll introduce it.

[22:43] It's a good idea.

[22:57] Okay. Council rules.

[23:03] We have to do this every couple years. Is that right, Tim?

[23:06] » That's what your rules you guys adopted say. You need to review it every two

[23:09] years. >> Yeah.

[23:11] » I don't know what to do. That's usually

[23:16] » No, but I'm I think we did that because we were going through so much. This was

[23:23] » I think he did it just so you look at it every two years.

[23:26] » Yeah. You know, just like when you look at the chart every couple years, that

[23:29] kind of stuff, you know. Okay.

[23:41] So,

[23:47] you want to do this as a group or do you want to just have two people look at it

[23:53] from a committee and then report back to us?

[23:57] How do we want to do this folks? could do it as a group.

[24:03] » I'm a biker

[24:06] » or you can do it. It'll take time. If we all went through the pack of it, we

[24:12] already have. >> Yeah.

[24:17] » Okay. Let's um let's just make the motion the way they are.

[24:23] » Okay. Did everybody get a chance to go through it all?

[24:26] » There any changes? Anybody that did not correct.

[24:31] » Fine. Any corrections or additions or questions you have about it?

[24:37] » All right. Motion made by Larayway to accept the uh

[24:43] village council rules >> without change.

[24:45] » Without change or addition. Yep. Is there a second?

[24:51] I'll second it. Seconded by Peavey. Any further discussion?

[24:59] Seeing none, let's have a roll call, please.

[25:02] » Sure. Right. >> Yes.

[25:05] » Cheryl Shannon, yes. Sarah Baron, yes. >> Robert Lairway,

[25:10] » yes. >> Dave Johnson,

[25:12] » yes. 60 pass. >> Okay. Or five.

[25:17] » Yeah. I don't know why she didn't call me all night.

[25:20] » She Did you forget to call Joe? >> I didn't call you. No,

[25:23] » it's because you're not on this list. Pass 5.

[25:34] » Supposed to be a home number. >> Okay. So, I'm sorry.

[25:39] » Okay. And you can say >> Joe.

[25:42] » Yes. >> Thank you, Joe. I'm writing your name in

[25:45] right here. >> Yeah.

[25:48] » Okay. >> I grabbed the two in the front.

[25:53] The ones that weren't in the >> Huh?

[25:55] » They were not in the binder, but in the pocket.

[25:59] » No, they were in the front in front of the tab

[26:01] » in the in the holes. Fine. So, I don't even like this one.

[26:07] » Personal preference aside. >> Excuse me. I'm writing Joe on all the

[26:11] other spots here. Okay. I apologize. >> I kept looking thinking this is

[26:16] » over and talk at the same time.

[26:21] » All right. So now did I do it? >> Yeah, that was the only rule. I think we

[26:25] had >> Okay.

[26:27] » I'm sorry. >> Ice storm cleanup discussion,

[26:32] Mr. Manager. >> Yeah. Um,

[26:36] you know, when we we do a storm cleanup like that, um, our focus is first

[26:44] make sure every road is at least accessible for one lane or every

[26:49] property can get in and out, you know. So, like for example, during uh the

[26:54] overnight on that storm, we got called out from central dispatch to tandle

[26:59] trees that were down completely blocking roads. So, one of them was on York

[27:05] Street down on the culdeac. That tree completely cut off that road. That was

[27:09] one that we had to open. There was one down on Dquessa between Harmon and

[27:14] Riviera with a bunch of trees that were kind of sketchy as well. We just calling

[27:19] that one off. you can drive around the block to get out at that point in time.

[27:22] So, um it it's, you know, safety first for our folks doing it. Um

[27:29] there were some some on Granada, we had two that were super sketchy that we had

[27:34] to clean out because that was not fun. The wind the next day, stuff still

[27:38] coming down, but the roads completely blocked. But when we do this, we're

[27:42] pushing stuff off to the shoulder, pushing it to the ditch, that kind of

[27:45] stuff. And you know what this has done over time is create a lot of areas where

[27:52] we've got just brush piled up around places. And I think it would be in our

[27:57] community's best interest from an aesthetics point, but also from a safety

[28:00] standpoint to invest in a wood chipper that we could run at least 12in material

[28:06] through to get rid of this stuff chipping blow back into the vacant lots

[28:10] at that point in time. of, you know, because

[28:15] if you think about it in in a, you know, a worst case scenario, which is one of

[28:20] the things I tell you guys, you have to think about is we've put all this this

[28:23] wood by the side of our road in areas where there's a lot of trees. Well, what

[28:27] happens if we have a dry May and June and we're getting to July and someone

[28:32] sets off a firework and now you've got all the dead underbrush on fire and now

[28:36] you've got all this fuel that you piled up on the side of the road. To me,

[28:39] that's that's a safety hazard for the community that we should address,

[28:42] » you know. >> Yeah.

[28:43] » Um, so looking at what is realistic in our price range, I think a used model

[28:50] would probably be something that would be very attainable without breaking our

[28:53] budget, doing any type of serious change to plans um that we may have. But then

[28:59] we could also double up on this and use that to help manage the brush pile that

[29:03] we currently have. Uh, we manage that primarily through burning it at this

[29:07] point in time. Uh we had a a pit that was left by Will Cox that we've filled

[29:11] in over time and you know so we've got to we got to start mitigating that pile

[29:15] down a little bit too. But um looking for your guys's feedback on this. Um

[29:21] Jerry and I also had a a talk and said you know we get a lot of bigger stuff

[29:25] dropped off too. You know, it wouldn't be a bad idea to either get a, you know,

[29:30] like a towah hide hydraulic log splitter that we could split that up and just

[29:35] pile for people that want to take their own firewood, you know, nothing crazy.

[29:40] Just >> break it up and pile it for them,

[29:42] » you know, because it's going to be too big to run through the chipper at that

[29:44] point in time. So, >> but

[29:47] » Well, once you get done splitting and chopping it off at my house,

[29:50] » well, I mean, seriously, community firewood banks are a growing thing.

[29:54] Like, we need to create a pile where you have that. We have people that go back

[29:57] there now and do that. Like, hey, can I come cut up wood? But you can cut up and

[30:01] take as much wood as your soul wants. >> You can have the tree on my shed.

[30:07] » Yeah. I think our community would definitely like having a free firewood

[30:10] pile to agree. >> If we run a chipper, I've seen other

[30:14] communities that do the same thing and they just put it in the pile behind

[30:18] their BBW and let people take it that want to use it for motor.

[30:20] » Yeah, we do that too. We have a big pile. Come take all the chips you want.

[30:25] » Free taken. Nice. >> I think the chipper is is an excellent

[30:30] idea. Is there really that big a price difference between a used one and a new

[30:35] one though? >> Yes, there is. Now, yeah,

[30:38] Landmark sells refurbished.

[30:43] » Yeah, I was thinking I, you know, could reach out to our local ones and say,

[30:48] "Hey, this is our budget. We we realize there's probably nothing that you're

[30:50] going to be able to to get us new in that range, but you have a demo or

[30:54] something like we want to give you that option before we try and source one, you

[30:58] know, >> um

[31:01] » just see what they tell us, you know. >> Yeah, I was I would suggest that, but um

[31:06] for a demo like a lot of like Morbark and Bandit, I know they do like

[31:10] prototypes and they'll let you like use it for free. So, like I was going to

[31:15] suggest renting like you can rent a chipper for 800 bucks a week. Like the

[31:19] problem with these things is like if you let it sit outside, you have hydraulic

[31:24] hoses. You have a bunch of stuff. Like >> it's great year one, year two, year

[31:29] three you go to get it out and now it needs this and then it needs this and

[31:32] then it just turns in you and Jerry will be pulling your hair out like I hate

[31:36] this wood chipper. Like it's a pain in the butt. Like I don't know if you just

[31:40] like I don't know if we have a ice storm. You can get monthly rentals too.

[31:44] Like >> I don't know if we rent it for a month

[31:47] or two months or however long it would take. And they're just they're finicky

[31:51] and like the hydraulic hoses and different stuff like if it's ours then

[31:56] it's your problem, you know. And if it's a rental, hey, your stuff's broke, you

[32:01] know? They keep it running.

[32:05] » I've messed with chippers before. They they can be a pain in the butt

[32:08] » and >> I don't know

[32:11] » or the gas or diesel. >> Uh I've had both.

[32:15] » Um >> one over the other.

[32:19] » I mean diesels are nicer. >> I think they're nicer.

[32:24] » The diesels work well in cold weather. >> They start hard. Um

[32:31] » yeah, I I'd rather have a diesel. A lot of the gas ones, you know, if you put

[32:35] ethanol fuel in it, dumps up carburetors and

[32:39] » it's just hell. But >> just load that baby with rack fuel.

[32:43] » Yeah, absolutely. >> The only issue would be availability or

[32:48] would you we we just rent it for the next months when we could have an issue?

[32:54] » No, I think I think what Brent suggested is we we rent it out in the summer and

[33:00] try and do the cleanup then and out of Whenever you want to do the cleanup,

[33:04] just >> run it for that period of time.

[33:06] » Okay. >> Like, yeah, the the 12in ones are nice.

[33:10] I don't know if you have a do you have a thumb on the back of

[33:13] » No, we do not. >> No,

[33:16] » cuz I mean to feed >> cuz that that'll be hard to feed if you

[33:18] don't have to feed it. >> Yeah. Like if you want to feed anything

[33:21] bigger than 6 in. I mean, it's you need a esavator to load it to feed the

[33:27] chipper on your grapple. >> Yeah.

[33:34] I don't know. It doesn't matter to me. It's just I don't know. Just those

[33:37] things sitting around. I don't know. There's every time you go, "Yeah, I got

[33:41] this old wood chipper. It doesn't run. They're selling it for cheap and I think

[33:44] it needs this. It needs that." And >> it'd be nice to see a price comparison.

[33:50] If we can find a used one, it'd be nice to know what it costs versus renting

[33:53] because I mean, if it's $800 to rent one for a week

[33:55] » and we and we can buy one for three or 4,000. I mean, even 15

[34:00] » 15,000 is the cost right there. >> Take a big versus rental is what I'm

[34:05] saying. You know, I mean, if renting is an option, it'd be nice to see that

[34:09] before we, you know, we made a decision on what it would cost to rent it for.

[34:13] » I'm talking about like the knives and oil change and just your your general

[34:17] upkeep like owning one cost you money too where like renting.

[34:23] » What do you rent them from? >> Uh, like rental resource has them in

[34:26] Claire. Um, if you wanted to go, you know, bigger,

[34:31] I don't know. I'd probably only get a six inch, but 12 inches are great, but

[34:35] you have to have an esavator to feed it really. But they're sweet. They'll hog a

[34:39] whole tree. >> Let's do this. Let's uh

[34:42] » or rent one. You can rent I think you we could probably get our hands on one from

[34:45] Bandit or Marbar direct and get like a a nicer one. And

[34:52] you might even be able to talk them into bringing like a tub grinder or one of

[34:55] their beasts and do the whole brush pile.

[34:57] » Hey, come demo all this stuff and just get rid of our brush for us, please.

[35:02] » They do a lot of stuff like the community.

[35:04] » They have in the past. >> Yeah. Because that'd be I mean if you're

[35:09] going to rent it, you know, you hook it to the John Deere and you go around like

[35:12] down the shoulders and stuff. You're talking that's a lot of work.

[35:18] That's the tongue. get a crew,

[35:24] bring in some temporary employees or something.

[35:27] » Volunteers, >> council members.

[35:29] » Yeah, >> I'd be driving down the show with my

[35:33] bul. >> We don't want to show up to the next

[35:35] council meeting like this. >> They don't want to do that.

[35:40] » All I think of is Fargo.

[35:44] » Do safety first. I'll give you a hat. shake hands with

[35:48] dangers.

[35:52] » Well, let's do this. Let's let's let's um let's rent one for a while and see if

[35:57] we like it and how big it will. We can rent a 6in one maybe and a 12in one.

[36:02] Compare them. >> Oh, 12in ones are awesome. I mean, yeah,

[36:05] we're super sweet. >> But like you said, I don't know how we'd

[36:08] get the stuff in there. Do you think the grapple will take a 12in line? Oh, yeah.

[36:13] We moved a 18 inch oak tree off the road with that thing. Pinch it up and just

[36:18] » It's really good. >> Yeah.

[36:20] » It's hard to like So excavator you swing like this, right? So like you can grab a

[36:24] tree over here and you just swing it into the esavator like with wheels and

[36:28] like the grapple. >> Not saying it can't be done, but you

[36:32] have to like once it grabs a hold of it, you got to let go at the right time.

[36:37] » Oh yeah.

[36:42] or like you know some of the bigger logs. I mean if you chunk them up or

[36:45] whatever I'll they're in the ditch I'll go get them. You know if it's too big

[36:49] for the 6 in >> we'll burn it for bonfire literally in

[36:52] the fireplace or whatever. >> No wouldn't be splitting the larger

[36:55] stuff for the wood. >> No burn ch

[37:00] are you envisioning just being able to do that right at the roadside during

[37:04] like we had this ice incident and you could have just

[37:07] » No, I don't want to do it during the ice. I don't want to do it during

[37:09] » No, but I mean in after the after spring, you know, as part of our spring

[37:13] cleanup, we're going to go and chunk all that brush that's piled up along the

[37:16] side of the road. >> Got it.

[37:17] » Which is ahead of the fire hazard time. So, okay, got it. That makes sense.

[37:23] » Because I don't know, you know, thinking about a little bit more. I mean, I like

[37:27] the idea of having one. I really do. >> But how often do we use it? That would

[37:32] be the thing. Well, we could use >> You'd find you'd find us use it a lot.

[37:36] » You'd find uses for it. We had the same conversation about bought the back and

[37:39] we use that thing all the time. >> All the time. Yeah.

[37:41] » Yeah.

[37:44] » Okay. >> So, you're saying it has to be in a

[37:50] heated enclosure to protect it? >> No. Yeah. I mean, hydraulic hoses go

[37:56] bad. Like the knives need changed. You know, it's going to need serviced once a

[38:00] year. You know, whether you use it or not, you should probably change the oil.

[38:03] And there's just >> that that's what most of the buses go. I

[38:05] mean, honestly, it's >> Yeah. Yeah, but I mean just saying if we

[38:08] got a crew around and we had, you know, three, four guys feeding that thing, I

[38:12] mean, you could pull it around with the tractor and guys could just start

[38:15] throwing brush in it while you're going down the shoulders. And

[38:18] » even if you rented it for a month, if it cost you, you know, 1,500 bucks.

[38:24] » Yeah. I think unless you're a business doing it all the time, I mean, they

[38:27] break down because they're just it's hard work for like they're just

[38:31] shredded. >> You beat on them pretty good.

[38:34] » Yeah. versus than a rental car.

[38:37] » I think we still keep this in mind, but my idea would be I suggest would be less

[38:43] rent. Find out how it works out, how much work it is.

[38:47] » It may or may not be worth it. Your back starts aching after two days of doing

[38:51] it. Then it may not be as >> you find you just want to

[38:54] » you just want to run. >> When uh when are you thinking to do

[38:58] this? Like what was the timet? Obviously not now. It warms up a little bit.

[39:03] » Yeah. May, >> early spring. Yeah, a little bit.

[39:06] » Like April, it's >> 50 60 degrees.

[39:08] » Yeah. The nights are out. >> You're not sweating a bunch. Yeah.

[39:12] » Okay. >> Well, we could do it before the

[39:17] big uh community yard sale. >> Sell the mulch.

[39:23] » Good idea. >> Like the free sand pile.

[39:27] » But I do like the idea of I I I Yeah, I like the idea of having

[39:33] like a splitter and a chipper you want to run or you want to buy the splitter.

[39:38] » I think we buy the splitter. I think we should have a splitter.

[39:40] » Buy the splitter. >> There's a lot of big wood in there that

[39:44] people would take >> that you would take.

[39:47] » Yeah. I mean, there's boat. >> Yeah.

[39:49] » Oh, really? >> Yeah.

[39:50] » Oh, god. >> Yeah.

[39:53] » I filled up the back of his truck and it didn't even dent what was there. I was

[39:57] there putting in brush. >> He says, "That's okay to do this." Yeah,

[40:02] baby. Take whatever you want, man. >> Take all you want.

[40:05] » We even had pumpkins where someone chucked their pumpkin guts out there and

[40:09] the next year there's a whole thing of pumpkins growing up. They're like, "Can

[40:12] I get these pump?" Like, "Take them, man. I don't care if you're going to

[40:15] sell out." Okay. Does that give you enough information,

[40:20] Tim? >> Yes. Okay.

[40:23] Second uh time for public comment. Seeing none anything from the council.

[40:31] » Um yeah, I have something. I talked to Tim about it last week or whatever. Um I

[40:39] thought about it quite a bit and uh I'm probably not going to be running for

[40:44] reelection for the council and it's just for the fact of my kids are going to be

[40:50] eight and six. I'm gonna enter into a really heavy sports period time in my

[40:56] life. Like and and most of our meetings are on Tuesdays. Like I'm still good

[41:01] this summer, but next year it's going to be Tuesdays and Thursdays are just

[41:05] really popular game nights. So, um I told Tim that I wanted to get it

[41:12] out and, you know, have ample time to recre somebody good. Um, I still wanted

[41:17] to be involved like in the lake judging thing and if if nobody runs for election

[41:22] if the council wanted to appoint me on the board knowing my schedule, I'd be

[41:27] cool with that, too. But I just wanted to say it with time, you know, well

[41:32] before I don't want to keep it a secret. Um, and when my kids are done with it,

[41:38] you know, obviously I get back in, but just, you know, even my oldest isn't

[41:44] playing basketball, so if he did, the games right now would be Tuesday and

[41:47] Thursday, >> right?

[41:48] » So, I wouldn't be here right now. And it's like just

[41:52] they're going to play basketball. It's just

[41:57] » No, you got you got about eight years you're going to be busy.

[41:59] » I was going to say 10. >> I don't I I want to definitely stay

[42:03] involved. If I'm not um sitting here, I'll be sitting there. If I don't have

[42:08] the ball game, I definitely come to the meetings and, you know, do whatever I

[42:12] could do. But um yeah, I mean, if anybody, you know, has someone in mind,

[42:18] it gets someone a chance they can start coming to the meetings and kind of get

[42:21] their feet wet before the election.

[42:26] » Okay. >> Well, thank you.

[42:30] » Thanks for the heads up. >> No, I'm sad. Yeah. It feels ter I mean I

[42:35] don't like I'm not a quitter. It's like

[42:40] you have to >> Yeah. Be realistic that situation.

[42:43] » Yeah. >> Right. I mean I've dodged some bullets

[42:47] so far and but >> Yeah. I agree.

[42:50] » We might even see it this summer. I don't know what night, you know, we're

[42:53] going to be playing baseball. It was Monday, Wednesday last year, but you

[42:56] know, if it's Tuesday night, it's >> Yeah,

[43:00] » I understand. Been there, done that.

[43:04] » Okay. Any further comments? Any announcements? Let's see. The safety

[43:12] committee is meeting the 17th, 6 o'clock again. Or have you got time?

[43:16] » Mhm. >> Okay.

[43:19] And our next council meeting is 17th. >> Same day.

[43:26] » Got it. >> I'm not too slow. Just a little bit. All

[43:31] right. Any further anything further?

January 20, 2026, Village Council Meeting

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