Agenda
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Roll Call/Call to Order
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26 - 457 Consideration of the Minutes of Proceedings for the Aug 3, 2026, Public Hearing, 2026 Laramie County Mill Levies.
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26 - 458 Consideration of the Minutes of Proceedings for Aug 4, 2026.
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26 - 427 Consideration of the ratification of change order No 2 to contract 0001 Chalk Bluff Rd (CR 203) Improvements Project (260421-15) between Laramie County, WY, and Connell Resources, Inc, to increase the contract by $13,607.93 for widening of driveway approach and extension of a culvert as described in the attachments.
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26 - 436 Consideration of the ratification of an addendum to the order and services agreement between Laramie County, WY, and NEOVGOV, to provide access to SaaS applications and professional services intended to enhance the ability of the county to screen applicants for its hiring process. The county shall pay annual payments as described in attachment A, a combined total of $278,807.05.
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26 - 437 Consideration of the ratification of a memorandum of understanding between Laramie County, WY, and Platte County, city of Cheyenne, town of Chugwater, town of Glendo, town of Guernsey, town of Wheatland and Prairie View Community School for the Industrial Siting Laramie Range Wind Project Impact Assistance.
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26 - 434 Consideration of a fourth amendment to the lease agreement between Laramie County, WY, and US Bank National Association to surrender 2,096 sq ft of space located on the first floor of the building at 2020 Carey Ave.
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26 - 430 Consideration of a services agreement between Laramie County, WY, and Won-Door Corp, in the amount of $4,710 for the scope of services described in exhibit A.
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26 - 431 Consideration of an agreement between Laramie County, WY, and Cooperative Ministry for Emergency Assistance, dba COMEA House & Resource Center, to provide temporary housing accommodations for eligible participants of the Laramie County Recovery Courts.
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26 - 432 Consideration of an addendum between Laramie County, WY, and Environmental Systems Research Institute, Inc, (ESRI) to modify the GIS agreements. The county shall pay an annual subscription fee not to exceed $128,200 for three years, for a total not to exceed $384,600.
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26 - 435 Consideration of four FY27 annual compensation agreements between Laramie County, WY, and the University of Wyoming.
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26 - 441 Consideration of the ratification of a resolution authorizing submission of a grant application to the WY Office of the Attorney General, Division of Criminal Investigation, for a FY24 Project Safe Neighborhood Grant for the Sheriff’s office in the amount of $25,206 with a match of $3,127.60 to send a deputy to an advanced homicide investigation training, along with the implementation of Veritone and Callyo systems.
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26 - 442 Consideration of the ratification of a resolution authorizing acceptance of a grant award from the Dept of Justice for a FFY25 Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant to be shared between the city of Cheyenne Police Dept and the Sheriff’s office in the amount of $64,810 (City $51,917 and County $12,893) to run through Sept 30, 2028.
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26 - 443 Consideration of a subrecipient agreement between Laramie County, WY, and Memorial Hospital of Laramie County, dba Cheyenne Regional Medical Center, for an opioid settlement award in the amount of $396,254.89 to run through June 30, 2029.
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26 - 445 Consideration of a resolution authorizing submission of a grant application to the WY Office of Homeland Security, FFY26 State Homeland Security Grant Program, requesting funds to purchase a powered gurney for the Coroner’s office in the amount of $60,775.31.
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26 - 446 Consideration of a resolution authorizing submission of a grant application to the WY Office of Homeland Security, FFY26 State Homeland Security Grant Program, to request funds for EMA to replace portable radios and equipment assigned to the communications and mobile command post in the amount of $176,614.56.
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26 - 447 Consideration of the ratification of an agreement between Laramie County, WY, and Alternative Claims Management, LLC, to provide damage recovery services for vehicle-related losses, including loss of use, revenue, and value.
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26 - 448 Consideration of an agreement between Laramie County, WY, and Evident ID, Inc, in the amount of $17,500 to provide an annual subscription for Insurance Verification-as-a-Service licenses.
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26 - 455 Consideration of an order form between Laramie County, WY, and Instrumentl, Inc, Design Partnership Program, for a grant search and management software platform for a one-year subscription in the amount of $35,000.
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26 - 453 Consideration of the 2026 Wildland Fire Management Annual Operating Plan.
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26 - 413 Consideration of amendment two to contract (240917-12) between WY Dept of Health, Behavioral Health Division, and Laramie County, WY, to increase the total contract to $547,600 and to extend the term to Oct 20, 2027, for Laramie County Treatment Courts to provide opioid use disorder and stimulant use disorder services.
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26 - 459 Consideration of the following fees collected by various county entities for July 2026: County Clerk, $146,895.45; Sheriff, $138,408.98; Clerk of District Court, $21,867.00; Shooting Sports, $18,505.48; Planning & Development, $1,296,801.23; Circuit Court, $72,865.01; DUI Court, $830.00; Drug Court, $595.00.
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26 - 460 Consideration of the following part-time salaries in the amount of $58,154.05 for Aug 2026: Planning, $575.08; Shooting Sports, $7,317.33; Buildings/Maintenance, $19,309.25; Sheriff Operations, $6,053.96; Detention, $21,310.88; Events, $1,334.10; District Court, $1,402.95; Drug/DUI Courts, $850.50.
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26 - 461 Consideration of warrants in the amount of $6,834,408.57 for Aug 2026.
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26 - 452 Consideration of the adoption of the Laramie County Community Wildfire Protection Plan.
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26 - 429 Consideration of an agreement between Laramie County, WY, and Garland/DBS, Inc, in an amount of $70,140 to provide repairs to the roof of the Event Center, 3801 Archer Pkwy.
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26 - 428 Consideration of a resolution reappointing Mark T Voss as the Laramie County Attorney in accordance with WS 18-3-301(a), effective Sept 1, 2026.
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26 - 433 Consideration of a resolution appointing a member to represent Laramie County on the Board of Wyoming Association of Risk Management, expiring June 30, 2029.
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26 - 449 PUBLIC HEARING to solicit input and comments on a US Dept of Justice 2026 Justice Assistance grant application to benefit Laramie County, WY, and the city of Cheyenne not to exceed $66,012. (Non-action item)
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26 - 462 PUBLIC HEARING regarding the correction of the 2026 mill levies pursuant to WS 39-13-102(g), (c)(iii), (j).
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26 - 440 PUBLIC HEARING regarding a major subdivision permit and plat for the R & R Heights, located in a portion of land situated in the W1/2 of Sect 2, T14N, R68W, of the 6th PM, Laramie County, WY.
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26 - 450 PUBLIC HEARING regarding a zone change from LU - Land Use to CB - Community Business zone district, located at Lot 20, Block 7, All America Subdivision, 2nd Filing, Laramie County, WY.
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26 - 451 PUBLIC HEARING regarding a zone change from LU - Land Use to PUD - Planned Unit Development zone district, located in Portions of Sects 1, 2, 3 and 11, T12N, R67W and Portions of Sect 35, T13N, R67W, Laramie County, WY.
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26 - 454 PUBLIC HEARING regarding a vacation of Tract 2, Walden Ranch Estates, 2nd Filing, located in a portion of Sec 10, T13N, R63W, and approval of a small subdivision permit and plat for Walden Hacienda, Laramie County, WY.
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26 - 439 PUBLIC HEARING regarding review and final action on a site plan for the Bit-O-Wyo Ranch and Events, located in a portion of land situated in the NE1/4 of Sect 11, T14N, R70W, of the 6th PM, Laramie County, WY.
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All right, please rise and join in the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation, under God, individual, with liberty and justice for all.
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Welcome to the September 1st Laramie County Board of Commissioners meeting. It asks if you have a cell phone that you turn it to silent. If you're going to speak during a public hearing portion, if you'd come forward and state your name and address for the record, it would be appreciated.
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With that first item, please.
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Item 1 consideration of the minutes of proceedings for August 3, 2020-6.
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Question 2.
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Motion 2.
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Question 2.
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Question 2.
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Roll call please.
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Commissioner Heath.
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Hi.
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Commissioner Holland's head.
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Commissioner Thompson.
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Commissioner's one, is there?
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Chairman Mom.
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Next item.
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Item 2.
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Question 2.
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Question 2.
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Motion 2.
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Question 2.
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discussion, roll call please.
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Commissioner Heith.
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Hi.
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Commissioner Hollingshead.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Item 3 through 22 are considered a team county business
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and we consider it as one item under the consent agenda.
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Unless a member of the governing body would like to have one removed.
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Commissioners.
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Mr. Chair, move to approve consent agenda.
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Item 3 or 22.
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Motion and secondary discussion.
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Discussion.
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Roll call please.
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Hi.
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Dr. Hollingseth?
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Hi.
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Commissioner Thompson?
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Commissioner's one, sir?
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Hi.
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Chairman Mo.
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I,
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Dale, are both in microphones on over there.
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Are you?
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You're just going.
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Next item, please.
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Item 23.
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Consideration of Warnson and Mount of six million,
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834,000 for her and eight dollars,
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57 cents for August 2026.
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Commissioner Thompson.
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Mr. Chair, I've got a conflict on the war and so I'll recuse myself.
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All right, Commissioner Thompson has recused himself, commissioners.
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Motion to approve.
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Motion to second.
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Discussion on war and discussion.
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Roll call, please.
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Commissioner Heath.
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Hi.
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Commissioner Hollingshead.
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Commissioner's on, is there?
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All right.
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Chairman, Mom.
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Next item, please.
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Item 24 consideration of the adoption of the Leramy County Community
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Waiow Fire Protection Plan.
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Mr. Butler.
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Chairman, Mom, commissioners.
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Matt Butler, Army County Fire Award, and before you today is the adoption of a long-awaited
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community wildfire protection plan. We have been in this process for over four years now,
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four years now, between the different grant applications and being denied and then reapplying
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and getting accepted. So I'm very pleased to come before you with the final plan for
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Army County's community wildfire protection plan. I got a short five-slide presentation
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without a two-minute overview of the website that I'd like to provide if that's okay.
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Yeah, thank you. Perfect.
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So the planning process for a community wildfire protection plan was, again, for
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on start to finish, from awarding the contract of Bintel Inc. was about a year-long process
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with a start-off at the kickoff meeting, planning meetings, stakeholder meetings, and community
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meetings throughout the entire year this last year. We went out for public comment, the surveys,
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we had the public meetings a couple different public meetings, went out in the Western
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portion of the county and one at Archer. Very well attended on both stakeholder meetings.
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We had throughout the whole time. These were subject matter experts from makeup from
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Fire District State Forestry, our grants department, emergency management, myself, commissioners
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were involved. And then the planning team is really kind of what drive this plan home. So I first
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and foremost want to give a huge thank to everyone that participated in this plan with me and
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conjunction with me to create it and make it what it is. I want to give a special shout out to
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Sandra Bay, our grants manager. She spent countless times with me early in the process going through
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this application for this grant that we ultimately received. So without her, I don't think I could be
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up here presenting this. So thank you very much Sandra. Very much appreciated. Next slide.
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So it consists of five different parts. There's the base plan that kind of gives the who
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why you win and how what a community wildfire or CWP is explains a little bit of the demographics
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of Army County and what our make-up is. Goes into the different appendixes community
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agnietyability, which is more or less the fire behavior of what Army County can see.
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The home ignition zone recommendations, if you're a community member watching online or if you're
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in the audience, this is probably the section that you want to pay attention to the most,
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this is how you can protect your home from wildfires and and create that defensible space.
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PentexC is probably the part that if you're if you're reading this big long pan you want to skip this is how they all they collect it all of their information
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What type of methodality g they use the surveys the different GIS layers
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So on and so forth and then the last one the PentexD is
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This is truly the, the, um, bring it home appendix, which is the home on a recommendation. So panics B is the, what you can do around your, your, uh, your house, protect your individual home.
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Panics B is kind of the county wide recommendations, which will, which I'll kind of go over view once we get to the live map.
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Next slide.
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This is just a map of the field work that been tell myself and all the county fire chiefs did, so all the blue lines represent where we traveled.
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This was over about six to seven days worth of traveling the county taking pictures talking to the local fire chiefs in the in these communities about where their hazard areas are that was what the stakeholders really brought to the table was being able to talk to the contractor with with where their their stay at week or stay at stay awake at night areas are in the community on those areas that we really wanted to make sure that we hit when we travel around the the county looking at what a community could do
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So this is just the map depicting the different lanes of travel that we took throughout the county over those six or seven days.
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Next slide.
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These are the different communities studied based off the title of the plan that community wildfire protection plan.
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This doesn't cover every square inch of Laramie County, but we tried to get a good representation of all the communities here in Laramie County and what their makeups.
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On this map, there are different ratings, so red is kind of that extreme fire danger level and that could be based off of apography,
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based off of vegetation, it could be based off of distance to water resources.
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We're then as we get down to the blue, those are the lower hazard areas,
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or the lower communities for fire risk and anywhere in between.
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Next slide.
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We did identify a couple areas of special interest in these areas that are just kind of called
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out in the plan that kind of stand alone and may need some special management options.
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One being Kurt Gattie State Park, another one being F.E. Warren Air Force Base and then
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the archer fair complex out east here is another one of those special areas we identified.
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Next slide.
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So this is the busy slide.
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This is the recommended treatments for the different communities and what they are.
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I purposely left it busy up here because you can see that there's a lot of them.
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There is over 19 different communities surveyed with over 40 different individual recommendations
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across those different communities.
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And a lot of them are going to be very similar across communities because the makeup of
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Laramie County is very similar for 90, 90% of the county where our grassland community.
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So a lot of the recommendations will be the same, but on the eastern and western sides,
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we do have those forest forested areas.
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So I left a busy so that we can go to the next one.
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And this is the public facing website.
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So it's cwpp.us.
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Again, if you're listening online or here in the audience,
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I'd highly recommend going to this website
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because this is where you'll be able to dial in
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to your neck of the woods and see what we did.
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So if Justin can click on the link there, it should work.
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So it brings you to Bintel's landing page.
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If we zoom in to Laramie County, you can click on our little icon or our county seal there.
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Go to the map section or the home section, it doesn't really matter, but we'll go to the maps,
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because I wanted to go to the recommended treatment.
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Third row down, second one in is the recommended treatment.
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There's a whole bunch of layers on the left hand side that you can turn on or off.
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You can turn off the area's interest. You can turn off the community boundaries.
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You can find out where the nearest fire station is to you all sorts of different layers,
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But the one we're really interested in this one is those recommended treatments.
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So if you could zoom in to kind of north eye 25 area, just off of horse Greek road,
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or just in that would be great.
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So you can kind of see the different recommended treatments here.
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We've got a bunch of moinds.
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One of the things that came up during the study was that a lot of our fires that they have highlighted in this plan
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generally move from west east because of our winds, right?
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So, a lot of our molines that are recommended here on the North South corridors, as well as to the bottom of the screen there, the defensible space linkage, right?
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So, protecting communities, that community just the bottom corner, the bottom side of the page, was a perfect example of how good defensible space protects homes, that area was nearly, it was impacted by the happy Jackfire a number of years ago.
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And so they're highlighting that a link to Festival Space for some of these neighborhoods can really do
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do wonders for that community.
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If you click on any one of the recommendations, it'll kind of give you a breakdown.
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So if you click on just any one of those, Justin.
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It'll kind of give you a breakdown of what that actual...
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Recommendation is, if it just says, linked to principal space and you do not sure what that means. You can click on it and it'll kind of give a definition or an example or a breakdown of what what it is they mean by defense what linked to principal space.
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And those are all throughout we have water water locations proposed water locations we have mobile lines linked to principal space. There is roadside treatments in the in the plan.
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So it really is that community plan that I'm hoping that our community at large can use and help better protect the community.
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I appreciate the time to give you the 30,000 foot view of what the CWP is, and I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have.
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Any questions from that?
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I just appreciate all the work that you've done on this, and everybody else who has involved, so thank you.
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Thank you.
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All right, do you have a motion?
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Motion to approve.
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Second.
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Motion a second.
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Any further discussion?
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Discussion?
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Okay.
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Roll call, please.
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Commissioner Heath?
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Hi.
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Commissioner Hollingshead?
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Commissioner Thompson?
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Commissioner Swan, is there?
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Hi.
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Chairman Mom.
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Hi. Next item, please.
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Thank you, Matt.
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Item 25, consideration of an agreement between
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learning county Wyoming and Garland DVS incorporated in an amount of $70,000 we have $40
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to provide repairs to the roof of the event center for the 801 archer parkway.
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All right, I don't see Jason in the room, so I believe these are two, this is a repair
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to the cap on the roof of the event center at archer that was causing some leaking all
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throughout fair and other times that we're fortunate enough to get rain.
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So, commissioners, Mr. Chair, move to approve.
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Second.
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Motion to second the discussion by the commission.
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Discussion?
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Well, call please.
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Commissioner Heath?
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Aye.
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Commissioner Hollings?
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Aye.
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Commissioner Thompson?
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Aye.
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Commissioner for the Honest, sir.
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Chairman Moom?
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Aye.
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Next item, please.
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Consideration of a resolution re-appointing mark.
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T.Vaugh says the Lerny County attorney
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in accordance with Wyoming State Statue 1838301A
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effective September 1, 2020, sex.
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Mr. Vost, you want to bring your kids in and
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suck clothes and.
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Unfortunately, they successfully grown up and moved away.
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So I can no longer present them as pathetic orphans.
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Okay, or soon to be.
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I would like to say that this is the most interesting
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challenging job I've ever had.
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I love every minute of it.
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Even the frustrating parts.
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I think that people who have a little opinion of government
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have not experienced what it's like inside one, the people that go to work every day
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and keep stuff running and you don't know about it.
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It's an honor to represent them and this entity and the elected officials.
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Thank you, Mr. Ross.
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Commissioner.
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Mr. Chair, move to approve.
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Motion to second discussion.
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Mr. Chair.
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Commissioner Thompson.
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Just Mark thanks to the pleasure to work with you.
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I don't know that I've ever met anybody as intelligent as you and
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Certainly, your knowledge of the laws is quite impressive, and it's been a pleasure to work with you, so
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I'm pretty sure you still want to do it.
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And that's chair.
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I've never met anybody as loquacious as you, and in written or verbal form, and my knowledge of early
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English literature and the Viking Empire, because of you, I've learned a lot.
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I never knew that a road issue could find its roots in maritime law, but Mark Frost will tell you that there's actually a way that you can see that trace that line directly.
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So with that roll call, please.
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Commissioner Heath.
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Commissioner Hollingsett.
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I.
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Commissioner Thompson.
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I.
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Commissioner.
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Chairman.
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I.
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Next item.
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27.
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consideration of a resolution, appointing a member to represent Lairmy County on the Board of Wyoming Association of Risk Management,
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expiring June 30, 2020-9. Gavin?
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Thank you, commissioners. Gavin,
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low-mire, risk manager for Lairmy County. This is just to officiate the appointment to the board,
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so that I may represent Lairmy County in our insurance pool. Yep, any questions for Gavin?
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Mr. Chair, move to point and give a little more.
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Second.
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Motion.
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Second.
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Discussion by the Commission.
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Discussion?
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Well, call please.
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Commissioner Heath.
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I.
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Commissioner Hollings.
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Hi.
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Commissioner Thompson.
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I.
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Commissioner Swaniser.
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Hi.
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Chairman Moe.
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Next item please.
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Thanks, Gavin.
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Item 28.
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Public hearing to solicit input and comments on the U.S. Department of Justice.
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2026.
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Justice assistance grant application to benefit by maintaining Wyoming and the City of
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And, not, not sexy.
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166,000, 12 dollars and this is a non-action item. All right, this is a public hearing if you'd like to come forward and speak on Ms. Grant opportunity that Larry Mcountie is putting in through for the Department of Justice. Anybody online?
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No, hands raised at this time. Public hearing, one more time online, one more time in the room, anybody? Public hearing, having minutes purpose, the public hearing is closed, commissioners. Next item, sorry, no, no action.
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I am 29 public hearing regarding the correction of the 226 mil levees pursuant to Wyoming
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statute, 3 913102GC Little A3I J. This is Nath.
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Commissioners, Sherry Snath, chief deputy assessor for Levy County. The reason we're here today is
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because we were, we had the incorrect information for the mil levee. We're requested from the
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past board so that originally we thought it was five mills it turns out
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at seven mills so we needed to correct that and we had to increase the mills on
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all tax districts by point two mills. Okay
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this is a public hearing if you'd like
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to speak on this item please come forward anybody online there are no comments
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at this time one more time in the room public hearing anybody really exciting
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stuff one more time every saving their ammo all right public hearing having
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As purpose of the public hearing is closed, commissioners.
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The chair of the group.
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Second.
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Motion and second.
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Discussion by the commission.
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Discussion.
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Roll call please.
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Commissioner Heath.
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I.
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Commissioner Hollingshead.
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Commissioner Thompson.
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I.
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Commissioner.
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I.
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Chairman.
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I.
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Next item.
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Please.
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Item 30 public hearing.
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Regarding a major sub division permit and
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that for R&R Heights located in a portion of Lancet's
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weighted in the west half of section two,
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township 14, North Rain 68 West of the 6 p.m.
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Miami County, Wyoming.
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Mr. Arnold.
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Mr. Chairman, members of the board,
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Justin Arnold, Army County Planning and Development
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presenting on behalf of the project planners
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on the M. Portio.
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On the land planning LLC on behalf of Land Owner Jean,
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we are a revocable trust has submitted an application
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for a major subdivision permit and platform
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for the above location.
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The purpose of the application is to sub divide 319.71 acre lot
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into 52 single-family residential lots.
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The subject property is located in the land
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whose own district is currently used
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for agricultural purposes.
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The surrounding area is residential
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to the west agricultural vacant land
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to the east and south commercial
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and detached residential uses.
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The property is located at the intersection
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of horse creek road or state highway
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to 11 in county road to 15.
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given the difficulty of this intersection in access to the proposed subdivision access will be reconfigured
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at the intersection to grant access from road 215 and another access point off road 116.
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No direct access will be from more Creek Road.
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Without we do have KC Palmer with Palmerland planning here to answer any questions you may have
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related to the project.
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Mr. Palmer.
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Good afternoon, Chairman, commissioners, KC Palmer, Palmerland planning agent for the
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So I think staff covered it pretty well.
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This is a 52-lot subdivision of approximately 300 acres.
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The floodplain crossings will be injuring the process of being engineered now.
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The only thing I would call your attention to that's not in the staff report is we
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had sent you a letter regarding the public safety fees for this project.
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So there's $52,000 do.
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And following submittal, the fire authority had reached out to us asking if we could
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make improvements to the sister and access on road 117 and so we have a contractors verified
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estimate for that it's about 48,000 of the 52,000 that's due in public safety fees and we
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just like to apply those fees to that construction. The remainder of the balance will be paid
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in cash and outside of that I don't have anything else to add unless you have any questions for me.
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Any questions for Casey? Any questions? Okay thank you Casey for report please.
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Mr. Chairman, members of the Board, just an Arnold Army County Planning.
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The Jeremy County Conference, a plan identifies the area as rural AG in our face.
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According to the adopted anecdotal data January 31, 2014, the property lies within zone two
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of the study area, which requires a minimum of 5.25 acres of growth for sufficient groundwater recharge from a pumping well.
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A subdivision in more than five lots requires its middle of the Chapter 23 study,
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the Wyoming Department of Environmental Quality.
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A chapter 23 application will be submitted and a letter of non-adverse recommendation will
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be required prior to plot recordation.
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Water and sanitary stewards will be provided by individual well-inseptic tanks.
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The environmental and services impact report provides a general outline of the project and its impact on schools.
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Stornwater runoff in county services. Portions of these parcels lie within the FEMA 100 year floodplain, the land analysis map provides information regarding the buildable area of the proposed subdivision for each lot.
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At the time of this report, agency reviewer comments are still being addressed regarding back up in vehicular traffic around mailbox turnouts and protections to prevent this from happening.
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Staffing out with the applicant and per needgencies on August 24, 2026 to correct these traffic concerns on the plaque with those corrections are a condition of this report.
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Public notice was provided with no public comments received.
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The planning commission met on August 13, 2026 on this matter and approve the project with a vote of 3 to 0.
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Section 2, 3, 1, 0, 2, subsection A of LCL, you are required as the learning county commission planning commission.
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You find that the proposed use is permitted to then conformance with all applicable developments
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standards.
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Staff finds this application is in conformance with the plans and policies of WEMI County.
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And based upon that evidence, staff finds the data is application needs the criteria for
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a major subdivision permit and plat person into section 4500 to the 2025 LCLUR in B.
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This application is in conformance with section 2404 of the 2025 LCLUR governing the land
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some district and that the board may approve the major subdivision permit and
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platform or our height subdivision with the following conditions being one.
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All agency comments must be addressed and were corrected prior to
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recordation to right of way alignment and mailbox location corrections must be
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resolved prior to recordation in three which after 23 non-adverse action letter must
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be received from the EQ prior to recordation and without I stand for any questions from
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the body. Any questions from the sir Arnold? No questions all right this is a
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If you'd like to speak on this item, please come forward.
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Is there anybody online?
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There are no comments on my at this time.
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All right.
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One more time in the room.
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Public hearing, anyone want to come forward and speak on this item.
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Public hearing, having met as purpose, public hearing is closed.
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Mr. Chairman, I moved to approve the major subdivision permit and platform for our
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and our heights located in a portion of land situated in the west half of section 2.
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Township, 14 North, 167 west of the 6pm, where we count on Wyoming, and recommended
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options of the findings of the facts A&B of the staff report with the following conditions.
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Condition one, all agency comments must be addressed and are corrected prior to recordation.
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Condition two, right away alignment and mailbox location corrections must be resolved prior
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to recordation, and condition number three, a chapter 23, non-inverse letter, action letter must
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be received from the EQ prior to recordation.
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Second, motion and second, discussion by the commission, discussion, roll call please.
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Commissioner Heath, I, Commissioner Hollingshead, I, Commissioner Thompson.
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I, Commissioner Swanitzer, I, Chairman Mom, I, next item, please.
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Item 31, Public Hearing, regarding his own change from L.U. Land Use to C.V. Community Business
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Zone District, located at Lot 20, Block 7, All America, Subdivision, Second Filing,
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Lamy County, Wyoming.
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Mr. Arnold, Mr. Chairman, members of the Board, Justin Arnold, Lamy County Planning and Development
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presenting on behalf of the Project Planet Kate Kunder.
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It's now serving services LLC on behalf of Jacob Johnson, has applied it for a approval
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of a zone change for a lot of 20 blocks, 7 dollar America, subdivision, second filing from
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land use zone district to community business.
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The purpose of the application is to change the zoning of the subject parcel to match the zoning
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of the owner's adjacent lot to the west.
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The adjoining lot is currently used for storage, any commercial development of the subject
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partial will require commercial site planning future actions, pertinent regulations include
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Section 2113 and 2405 of the LCLUR and with that we have Shane Hanson and the Stels
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through ring on behalf of the applicant to answer any questions you might have.
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Mr. Hanson.
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Good afternoon, Shane Ethel Stels, sir.
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My answer to any questions you may have regarding the zone judge.
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Any questions for Shane?
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Questions?
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Okay.
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Thank you, sir.
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Full staff report, please.
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Mr. Chairman, members of the Board.
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just to know where me County Planning.
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The subject of property is currently assessed as residential vacant land
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and is bordered by next year of residential and commercial properties.
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The Lair Me County Comprehensive Plan identifies the area as urban rural interface.
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These areas may have higher level of the e-cular access greater overall level
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of community service and plans shy and designates the area as rural residential.
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Individual well-insapted systems provide water and sanitary services to the area.
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agency reviews have been addressed, probably notice was provided in accordance with Section 1, 3,
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1, 0, 4 notices were sent to 23 surrounding property owners within 500 feet with no comments received.
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Section 2, 1, 1, 0, 3 subsection E of the LCLU are states that prior to making a recommendation to the commissioners about any zoning
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an appointment, the Planning Commission is required to find that one was on change request
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reports and reports that the safety in health.
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For the community, and that endorses the general welfare of the inhabitants of Wernie County, and that one of the following two was also be determined, excuse me, to be declared to be a finding A. The existing zoning classification of the land is not 50 overall development pattern of the area or B. There have been changes in physical, economic and social nature within the area, which have prompted the request and which enable the zone change to better meet community needs.
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Criteria, I and B are met by the type of action proposed by meeting all of planning's application Criteria.
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The Wernwick County Planning Commission met on August 13, 2026 and recommended approval by a vote of 3-0.
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And based on the evidence provided and has included in the Johnson Zone Change Files staff states that A.
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This application does meet the Criteria for his own map amendment pursuant to section 2-1-1-0-3 of the 2025 LCL-UR in B.
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The proposed change in zone district is in conformance with the requirements of section 2, 4, 1, 0, 5 of the LCO, you are and that the Board of Commissioners may approve the Johnson Zone change from land use to community business for white 20 blocks of an all-America sub division, second filing, where in the county with no conditions and with that I stand for any questions.
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Any questions for Justin at this time? Questions? Okay, this is a public hearing. If you'd like to speak on this item, please come forward. Anybody online?
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All right, this is a public hearing again on the zone change.
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If you'd like to come forward and speak one more time, public hearing outing that is
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purpose of the public hearing is closed commissioners.
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Mr. Chair, I'm of to prove that change in zone district for a lot 20 block 7, all
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American subdivisions, second filing from land use to community business, and adopt the
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findings of the fact of A and B of the staff report with no conditions.
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Thank you. Motion to second discussion by the Commission.
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Discussion.
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Discussion.
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Roll call please.
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Commissioner Heath.
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Commissioner Hollingshead.
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Commissioner Thompson.
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Commissioner Solancer.
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All right.
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Chairman Mom.
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I next item please.
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Item 32 public hearing regarding his own change from LU land use to PUD plan unit development.
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Zone district located in portions of sections 1, 2, 3, and 11.
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10 ship 12 North Marine 67 West and portions of section 35 10 ship 13 North Marine 67 West
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Army County Wyoming.
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Mr. Chairman, members of the board, just an Arnold Lenny County Planning,
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un-presenting our behalf of Project Planner, K-Kumble.
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On the land planning LLC on behalf of the Vantage Data Center,
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it's submitted an application for approval of a zone change for Project Latigo from
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Land Use Zone District to Planned Unit Development Zone District.
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the zone change will establish a framework for the development of a data center campus and supporting infrastructure.
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An onsite workforce accommodation component to house construction phase personnel is included.
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The PUD comprises approximately 1,835 acres and is located south of state highway 223 also known as Terry Ranch Road.
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The subject property is currently assessed as agricultural, the surrounding area consists of mixture of range land and commercial uses.
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The PUD district is intended for industrial uses requiring buffering, secure operations and associated accessory uses that cannot readily fix fit into general commercial or mixed use districts.
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Pernant regulations include Section 21103 and 21111111 of the WEMI county land use regulations and with that we do have the applicant here to answer any questions you may have.
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Mr. Palmer.
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Good afternoon, commissioners.
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Casey Palmer, Palmer Land Planning, for the applicant.
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So what you have before you today is a zoning framework on about 1,800 acres to establish
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a data center and supporting infrastructure, mechanical cooling plants, internal cooling
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is provided by closed-loop system.
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Phase 1 includes staging areas, access, circulation routes, on-site power production, in section
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11.
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The PUD does allow for on-site workforce housing, but no on-site residential is proposed at this time.
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We are coordinating with the adjacent land owner, primarily the state of Wyoming, about mutual access and cross-access and then the best way to coordinate complementary land uses and provide appropriate buffering and that type of thing.
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So I do have with me today a couple of representatives from Vantage, Matt Clark, Senior Governor
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Affairs Manager and Tim Denimberg with Market Development.
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So I just turn it over to them.
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I think they have a brief slide show that they've given the staff and just want to run through
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a little bit of an introduction for you.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Mr.
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Chairman.
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Thank you so much.
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I'll go.
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We hope we brief and just kind of our background of the company and the project overall and then answer any questions that you may have before and before we move forward. So next slide.
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Vanish data centers, as it's mentioned on slide founded in 2010, our headquarters is in Denver, Colorado. We have multiple data center sites throughout the country, if not worldwide.
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We deliver our data centers and approve and flexible manner that meets many customer needs.
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We serve many of the world's leading technology partners and leaders.
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And we, most of all, are committed to be a long-term partner in any community in which we build,
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making sure that we engage with the community in a way that limits the impact and brings the maximum return on investment.
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Next slide.
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As you can see, the project we anticipate will bring up to $2,000 to $2,000 to the local community
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with an investment of up to $20 billion when it's completed.
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We intend to focus most of our community engagement around workforce development
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and local engagements, how can we help the community, what are the things that they need.
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We also are firmly invested in conservation and a solid use of natural resources.
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we want to make sure that we leave the land as well as we found it. Next slide.
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So just to brief overview of our community engagement approach,
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like we mentioned, we believe that we need to go into the community and talk to them and listen to
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their needs and concerns as we as we build and we go. I mentioned before that we are focused
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on being good stewards of the resources in which we use, including both water and
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natural gas in which we used to power it. We've already had our first open house to
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talk to the community about the timeline of the project, what we're doing, how we're looking
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to invest. We want to make sure that some of the concerns that we heard around lighting and noise,
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we meet not only the county standards but ensure that those are not a problems for the surrounding
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community. While we missed last night's meeting in person, we did attend online to the best of
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our ability and we will be here quarterly to continue to answer any other questions. We've set up
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couple of displays outside that kind of given overview of what we talked about today and we're
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happy to meet with anyone that would like to further discuss it without taking up any additional
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time. So I'm going to turn it over to my colleague and he'll give an overview of the project in the
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timeline and then we're happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you.
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Good afternoon. I'm Tim Dennerberg. I'm a director of Market Development for Vantage.
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If you'd kindly go to the next slide. So again, not to repeat the report from staff, but the
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The project location is a very southern end of the county sits squarely within their
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county, not in the city of Cheyenne, or helpful that the location is often chosen
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adjacent to uses that are compatible and away from some of the other parts of the
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county and the city that are not really supportive of this.
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Again, it's just used to buy 25 south of Terry Ranch Road and west of 85.
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If you go to the next one, so again, just a quick overview on the PUD,
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itself covers just over three sections. It would enable the development and the investment in data
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center infrastructure, which includes the buildings. There's also the administrative office component,
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as mentioned by Casey and Matt, there would be on-site power generation, with that we intend to use
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Wyoming gas, keeping both the resources and the investment within the state there, and then the closed
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load-chiller system essentially uses no water during cooling operations. There's an initial fill-up,
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But after that, the water just cycles, and other than restrooms for the employees that
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will be working there, water uses very low, and I think it met, as mentioned, vantage
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plans to invest back into the local water resources, so that we're being in that positive
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on that front, and then there is also plans for onsite workforce housing, knowing that it
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will require a lot of people, which brings a lot of good jobs, but need to place for those
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people live or they're building it and we help to try and mitigate those impacts
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that bring in some of those onsite. And then lastly, things like traffic, light,
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air quality, noise, we're taking very seriously and intentionally into our planning
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and really appreciate the dialogue and the feedback that we've gotten from the community
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on all those items. And both as part of our PUD and our future site plan and other submissions
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look forward to incorporating plans to make all those impacts as mitigated as possible.
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again making this as positive a project for the county and the community as it can be.
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And in the last one, I think we've gone here. This is a touch based on timeline.
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So we're pretty early in the process. Here, almost towards the end of 2026, this is really one
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of the first steps for us on the entitlements and the permitting for the project. And with that, again,
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really looking forward to continuing the dialogue with the community. One of you transparent with
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plans and open about how this can be beneficial and how we can work together to make this
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really local two-lirmy county. I'm with that. We hope to start construction next year,
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which would go about until 2030 and from there that.
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That concludes our quick overview. Thank you all for the time, and again, we've got other members of our team here. Happy to answer any questions now or after the meeting as well.
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Thank you. Any questions for the applicant? Commissioner Thompson.
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Mr. Chair, thank you. Source of the water. The water will be source from onsite. We're currently doing testing to confirm that we can reach the Lanceloc offer, so that is the intended plan.
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and additional information be provided in the site plan for that as well.
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Fair enough.
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And then this comment for every 100 gallons of water used,
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110 gallons will be restored.
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What does that mean?
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So essentially, vantage plans to invest in projects
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that will restore water into the existing aquifers,
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things such as floodplain and wetland restoration that essentially
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allow water that's not currently being restored to get restored.
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So, trying to basically put more in than we're taking out.
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Mr. Chair, through you, and those projects will they be site-specific?
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They will be, I would say, local specifics.
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So, not on the site itself, but within the Lairmy County area,
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other examples might be helping invest in agricultural improvements,
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irrigation ways to make those more efficient.
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So, ultimately, benefiting the county, not just on the site.
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Mr. Chair, one more question, so how do we monitor that?
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I mean, how do we keep track of that?
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I mean, as a county commissioner, as a member of the public,
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how do I see those activities and see those results?
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That's something we can follow up with more information on.
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I don't have a great answer for you right now,
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but I think it's something that we're more than planning and excited
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to help be transparent and report as much as we can on it.
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Any other questions?
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Good. Thank you, guys.
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Mr. Arnold, floor report.
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Mr. Chairman, members of the board, just an honor to learn me county planning.
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The learning county comprehensive plan designates this area is gateway corridor in
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Agon Rangeland. All access to project radical is intended to be directly from
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Terry Ranch Road either via I-25 or stay highway 85. Access to public roadways will be
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Agency reviews have been completed with all comments addressed separate responses from the application
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which sent for comments from Wapa as well as the Wyoming Gaming Fish. Public notice was provided in a
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current section 1, 3, 1, 0, 4 notices were sent to 19 surrounding property owners with
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in 500 feet of the subject property. One public comment regarding access to the project was received.
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Applicant responded that the project will not be using the access is in question to the north
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If not comment, the applicant response is attached to this report.
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Section 21103 subsection east states that the prior to making a recommendation to the county commissioners about any zoning
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napa amendment, the planning commission is required to find that one of the zone change requests supports and
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impulsed the safety and health of the community and that it endorses general welfare of the inhabitants of the
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of the development pattern of the area, or be there have been changes of a physical, economic,
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or social nature within the area, which have prompted the request and which enable
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the zone change to better meet community needs.
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I'll free criteria met by the type of action proposed by meeting planning's application
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criteria.
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The planning commission met on August 13, 2026 and recommended approval by vote of 3 to 0.
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And based on evidence provided, then, has included in project, latter go files, staff finds
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Today, this application does need to criteria for a zone
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and an app amendment, a person with a section two, three,
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two, one, one, one, one, three of LCLUR and B.
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The proposed change in zone district is in conformance
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with the requirements of section two, four, one, eleven of LCLUR.
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And that the Board of County Commissioners
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may approve project radical zone change
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from the land use to plan unit development with no conditions.
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I would also note, before you start your discussion,
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that should it be approved there would still be a commercial site plan and associated public
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notice in public hearings that would be required before approval final approval of any
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project with that. I stand for any questions. Thank you any questions for Justin. Any questions?
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Okay public hearing on line first.
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There are no comments online at this time. Public hearing in the room.
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Anyone want to speak on this item?
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One more time for public hearing? One more time online.
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Okay, public hearing has met its purpose, public hearing.
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Hearing is closed, commissioners.
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Mr. Chair, I moved to approve the Project Lategor zone change from land use to plan new to development, located in portions of section 1, 2, 3, and 11, township 12 North, ring 67 West and section 13, township 13 North, ring 67 West, lair McNeon and Wyoming, and adopt the findings of facts A and B of the staff report with no conditions.
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So, motion and second, discussion by the commission. Discussion? Discussion?
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I would just say I appreciate the applicant's commitment to our community through their efforts
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to revitalize waterways and try and give as much as we take when we talk about these
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large industrial projects or Laramie County in general when we meet with folks we tell
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a Wyoming and Laramie County are open for business but you have to be willing to enter into
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a Wyoming relationship and I think that through our discussions and through this presentation
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from Vantage we've seen that at this point they're committed to doing and upholding those
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I think we've long looked as a community for industry that not only used Wyoming resources
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to produce and power the nation, but produced power that was utilized right here in Lermy County.
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And so I'm excited about what this project potentially brings and excited for the partnership.
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So I appreciate you.
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Will call please.
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Commissioner Heath.
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Hi.
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Commissioner Hollingsett.
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Commissioner Thompson.
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Commissioner's one answer.
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Hi.
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Next item please item 33 public hearing regarding a vacation attract to Walden Ranch
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a state second filing located in a portion of section 10 township 13 North Wayne's 63
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West and approval of a small subdivision permit and platform for Walden, Hussieenda,
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Mayor McKinney Wyoming.
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Mr. Arnold Mr. Chairman members of the board just and Arnold
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Lairmy County Planning, presenting on behalf of Project Planner K. Kunder,
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Self-serving services on behalf of JJ Walden has submitted a small sub division permit and
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applied application for Walden, Hossein, and the located at Tract 2 Walden Ranch
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estate, second-fiving, Miami County, Wyoming.
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The subject property is located at 4503, road 208, Carpenter, Wyoming.
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The sub division reconfigures the existing 27.5 acre parcel into four tracks.
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The average track size is 6.88 acres.
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The subject property is currently assessed as residential and located in the land
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zone district, the surrounding areas consist of farmland and residential uses. Private
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wells and septic systems provide water and sanitary service to the area. The existing
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residents will be located on tracks to, with that we do have seen Hanson here, agent for
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the applicant and answer any questions you might have. Mr. Hanson.
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Good afternoon, Shane Hanson, style serving services. A couple of items we need to discuss regarding
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this project. One of them is a road name change. That was requested. Actually a road name.
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And I was requested, JJ Walton put in a application two and a half
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three years ago to name that road.
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The neighbors of the South wouldn't sign it.
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So because they didn't want to change their address.
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In this venue, you get to approve it.
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We have no problem with naming the road at all.
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So that's one of the conditions that's on here that we'll take care of.
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The other condition is they asked for 40 fast
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if we're additional 40 foot right away.
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There's currently a 40 foot right away on the section to the west.
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It's dedicated, it's a piece of it dedicated to the public use.
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The initial submittal, we can we use it, we dedicated a 20-footed public use for a 60-foot wide rider way through there.
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Currently there's only three tracks that use it for a wide rider.
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Let's see.
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We'll track to the south.
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Mr. Waldo's track contract with North.
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So there's 40 foot there currently.
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That's been there for decades.
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People are the front of the south, go south to 208.
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We're adding three tracks to create a family compound from Mr. Waldo and his family.
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We're asking for relief from that 40 feet, if we dedicate 40 feet, it puts his pipe collar fence in the right away, including all these utilities.
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Just propane tank.
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And, et cetera, et cetera.
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So we're asking for a relief from that 40 feet requirement down to the 20 feet, which is right against his fence.
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We still have to upgrade the road, we believe safety feed is adequate through there since there's only going to be seven tracks that use a total.
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Currently there are spots in the county that serve four to six tracks with forty foot wide access.
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So we're adding twenty foot wide to it.
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Also dedicated as public use as an easement.
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Those are the two items that we're put on this as conditions and these are our solutions we'd like to be able to go with twenty foot wide away through there.
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It seems to be very viable and we will name the road.
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Okay, any questions?
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Not at this time shown.
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Mr. Chairman, if you, Mr. Hanson, is there still some
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Contention about the road name change with the neighbors to the south?
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He said originally they did not sign off.
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How did he still?
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So we went, we had to go to all the neighbors on the south.
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The neighbor nearest on the south.
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The Mr. Wallman's track agreed to it.
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The neighbor's foot.
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Under the South, because he's addressed off of 2015, didn't want to change his address. He's actually accesses from 208, so not quite sure why he's addressed off of 2015, but that's not a 2015 item, I think it's 2015, doesn't. Anyway, that's what the issue is, as they didn't want to change your address.
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The one's the South 207, they actually come from, that's how their access is, and their access is only 40 feet wide, going up to Mr. Welm's property.
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The person directly to the South, he agreed to, and he signed off on it, but the other two would not.
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So, at that point in time, that killed it, we couldn't do it.
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with the folks being the Board of County Commissioners, and we can simply name it, and you'll
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if you approve it, then it's done. And they don't have a choice, but unfortunately, to
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re-address their house.
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Okay. Thanks, Shane.
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Full report, please.
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Mr. Chairman, members of the Board, just a normal Jeremy County Planning
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for Jeremy County Comprehensive Planning Identifies the Area as Ag and Range Land.
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I would like to know this was provided in accordance with Section 1, 3104,
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public nose was sent to six surrounding property owners within five hundred feet with no written
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comments received outstanding agency comments concern the access easement is discussed
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of 40 40 feet shown on the proposed flat. There were improvements within this widened
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easement that have been in place for several years and complied with the access easement
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in place at the time of construction. With the widened easement, the engineers asking that
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these improvements be removed since they now encroach and agreeing that between the
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engineering applicant has not been reached as to the removal of these improvements from
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new easement, they are asking the commissioners to resolve this matter, and if the applicant
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is required to name the easement, based on evidence provided and is included in the world
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in Aussie and the file staff states that a this application meets the criteria for a small
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subdivision permit and platform, so it's a section 4,500, and they happen to be this
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application is in conformance or section 4,102 governing the subdivision permit and
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That vacation and see this application is in conformance with Section 24104, governing
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the land use zone district, and that the Board of County Commissioners may approve
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the Vacation of Track 2, World and Ranchest Aid, Second Firing, and approve the SNOS
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subdivision permit and part for Walden, Hocienda, and about the findings, the fact A, B, and
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C are the staff report with two conditions, one, the Vacation of Track 2, World and Ranchest
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Aid, Second Firing, will become effective upon recordation of the Walden, Hocienda, subdivision
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to all agency review comments must be addressed prior to plot recordation and with that I stand
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for any questions. Any questions from Mr. Arnold?
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I want to see you at any time.
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So Mr. Chair, so the question about the name change, I'm not seeing that in our conditions,
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I'm not seeing that in the notes either.
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And also the variants?
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In the variants.
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Mr. Chairman, through Commissioner Thompson, that will have to be ad hoc at the end of the conditions to require a road name change in compliance with the road naming standards in the LCLUR and effectively approve the 60 foot right of way rather than the full 80 foot in that section.
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And I might ask for some clarification through you, Mr. Chairman, to the applicant,
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are we we're only doing that for this section, where the existing infrastructure is,
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where for the entirety of the right of way.
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Mr. Chancellor, Mr. Chair, through you the 20 feet that we would be dedicating
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to the public use is sort of the entire length of Walden, House of Yanda.
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Mr. Chairman, through you Commissioner Thompson, so effectively approving a 60-foot
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right of way to construct a world residential roadway and then to approving a name change in compliance
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with the land use regulations. Effectively, if there's any parties that aren't agreeable
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to the name change, that's where the board comes into play. Ideally, from a planning standpoint,
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we like to have these internal roadways named simply because of emergency response. Well,
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noted on the map previously shown that we have a lot of houses that are addressed from
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road 208 that are probably a half a mile away from the actual roadway themselves, so adding
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additional roadway to the network and trying to clarify that is good for an emergency response
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standpoint.
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Again, we don't have all by and from out of parties, so would require an overright from
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the body.
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Christian Thompson.
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Mr. Chair, what is the what's the name for the name of the road?
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Mr. Chair, is there you walt and ran?
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Mr. Chair,
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also through you. It hasn't been placed on the flat yet because we didn't know we needed a name until the comments came back. And now the comments have come back. We explained that we had tried the name of previously, and that it had been the nine, not the nine, but we couldn't get the neighbors to sign off. So we are more than willing to name the road. As long as the commissioners approve it, it'll be done.
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Any other questions for Shane or Justin?
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Mr. Chair, I'm sure he's.
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This would be for Justin.
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We do have the Walden Ranch estates out on 138.
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Is that going to conflict with the road?
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Naming there and we'll be confusing to our first responders.
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Mr. Chairman, through you commissioner, he if I was just going to look at that.
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So when I mentioned that we wanted it to be in compliance with the LCLUR,
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We definitely want it to be a unique identifier,
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and I'm not sure.
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We would just verify through that through this process that it's a unique road name.
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I'm not seeing that we have a bonafide road name, but we don't want it to get confused
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for emergency response services.
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Follow up.
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I bring that to your attention, because there is a Somerset Drive into code of crossing and
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members that drive out east of Cheyenne and veryably the addresses get mixed up.
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Thank you, Commissioner Heath.
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Commissioner Thompson, do you want to say anything else?
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Mr. Chairman, do you actually like to get public's works opinion on the, with the roadway
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if they have any comments or concerns with that roadway?
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Mr. Chairman, do you, thank you, Mr. Chairman's answer.
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This is something that we addressed in our comments with them.
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the initial pad did show that the right away was narrower. From a public works perspective,
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we always try to enforce the 80-foot right-of-way rule. As outlined in the Lairman County
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Land use regulations. The question that we would raise is, should anything be developed to the
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west of this road in the future, would in the 80-foot right-of-way be required? And if so, with that land owner,
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who's already dedicated 40 feet on their side be required to dedicate an additional 20?
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We believe that this will be up to the commission ultimately to decide, but we do, from a public work standpoint, enforce the 80-foot right of way rule, and have requested that the additional 40 feet total be plotted with this action.
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Mr. Hanson?
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If I may, the 40 feet on the opposing section is a 40 foot easement. If that land were to be developed, it would have to be dedicated to the public and 60 foot right away would be easily doable.
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Okay,
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I think I'm at the public hearing.
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All right, this is public hearing. If you'd like to come forward and speak on this item, please do so now anybody online?
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There are no comments on my at this time.
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One more time in the room, public hearing, like to speak on this item, please come forward.
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Public hearing, having met its purpose, public hearing is closed, commissioners.
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Mr. Chairman, following the review of the staff report, I moved to approve the
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vacation of Track 2, Walden Track Estate, Second Filing, and approve the small subdivision
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permanent platform for Walden House C and a subdivision, and adopt the findings of
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facts A, B, and C of the staff report with two conditions.
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Condition 1, the vacation of Track 2, Walden Ranch Estate, Second Filing, will become
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effective upon the recordation of Walden House C and a subdivision, and condition
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Number two, all agency will be comments must be addressed prior to
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flat recordation.
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Second, okay, we have a motion in a second.
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Mr. Chair, Commissioner Thompson.
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We're going to make an amendment to add condition number three
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that a 20, that the 40 foot requirement in the comments
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be reduced to 20 foot along the western section of the property.
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Okay, does the amendment have a second?
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Second, we have an second on the amendment
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So, we're looking to amend the motion to reduce the easement from 40 to 20 feet on the west side.
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Any comment on the motion on the amendment to the motion?
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Any comment?
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Commissioner Thompson.
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Mr. Chair, I mean, the guy's got his fence there.
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And so I mean, he didn't build it in the right way.
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It's been there and we're going to require a right way.
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I'm a little uncomfortable making a right way where he's got that fence.
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And I think we're going to be fine with 20 foot.
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So we'll do this in the net and then we'll all be done.
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Any other discussion on the amendment?
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Okay, roll call on the amendment. Commissioner Heath, Commissioner Holling said, aye, commissioner Thompson, aye, commissioner Salinas sir? Aye, chairman, aye. Commissioner Thompson,
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Mr. Chair, move to name the road, Walden Ranch Road, excuse me, move to amend the motion to add a fourth condition that we would name the road, Walden Ranch Road, sorry.
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So, I'm going to ask you to consider your motion being that the applicant named the
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road, a name that complies with the LCUR, road naming conditions, because we don't know
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for sure if that'll work yet.
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Fair enough.
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I would change my mind.
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So, what I said is what he said, and we're looking for a second.
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Second.
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Okay, we have a second.
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any discussion, discussion.
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So Mr. Chair, what exactly does that mean?
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So I think from what I can glean is that we have to make sure
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that there's not a very similar name else out there
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in the road database that there would be confusion.
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So if Walden Ranch road is not, if there's nothing
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really close to it, we can go with that,
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but it just needs to make sure that it's compliant
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with the LCUR, so we're not approving a road name
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that is non-compliant.
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So Mr. Chair, here's my concern.
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And it's the neighbor to the south that had problems with the name being changed before.
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What if they want to name something totally different?
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I mean, I guess that's my concern here.
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And so what would it be better just to, so our condition will allow our staff to name the road.
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And since there's no mention of Walden Ranch Road in the motion, because we took that out, the staff can just name it whatever.
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Mr. Arnold?
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Mr. Chairman, through you, Commissioner Thompson, so we'll look to see what name options
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are.
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It might be a good faith gesture with the neighbor to get some input on what that road
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gave should be as part of this application process.
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Again, it'll be up to the applicant's, applicants to decide, we'll just run it through our
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process to make sure it's a unique identifier and it works with our road systems.
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That makes sense.
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Mr. Johnson.
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Ty wants one.
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It's a road.
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Just throw that out there.
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I don't know that.
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Any other discussion on the amendment?
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Mr. Chair, Mr. Heath.
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The only thing that I read at is we have not made it a practice to name roads and subdivisions.
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We've had some that we've had to maybe extend the road name into an area, but we have not made
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has board a habit of trying to name roads within subdivisions. I don't know about you, but I have a hard time coming up.
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The names for my dog. Much less candy roads. Thank you commissioner Heath. Mr. Chair, I don't know. I don't recall it's ever been asked.
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I don't recall ever been asked to name a road until today.
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Okay. Any other discussion?
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Well, call please on the amendment.
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Commissioner.
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Commissioner Heath.
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Hi.
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Commissioner Hollingshead.
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Commissioner Thompson.
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Commissioner's on, is there?
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I, Chairman Mo.
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Are there any further amendments?
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Just a pointed clarification that we are not officially naming the road.
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We are just saying that a name will be selected that applies
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with our current land use regulations.
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That name will be determined by the applicant.
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Hopefully, may we do their due diligence for the neighbor to come up with something that is.
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Sounds good.
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Okay, any other discussion?
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Okay, roll call on the motion as amended.
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Commissioner Heath.
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Commissioner Hollingshead.
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Commissioner Thompson.
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I.
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Commissioner.
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Chairman.
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I.
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Next item, please.
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Item 34.
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Public hearing regarding review and final action on a site plan for the bit of
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branch and events located in a portion of land situated in the north or of section 11.
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Township 14 North reigns in the west of the 6 p.m. Wyoming County, Wyoming.
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Mr. Arnold. Mr. Chairman, members of the board, Justin Arnold,
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Wyoming County Planning, presenting on behalf of the Project Planner, Sonny and Portio.
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Reed of Ventures, LLC, DBA, Bidderio, Ranch and Events on behalf of Landowner Tony
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The Beatles submitted a site-plan application from the Bitterio Ranch and Events Project,
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the Class E Conditional Use Permit for this project was approved by the Board April 21st of
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2026.
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The purpose of this project and subsequent commercial site plans and middle as required is to
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continue the historic use of the business as a public event in recreational venue.
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The subject property is located in the land use zone district and consists of 39.97 acres.
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This rounding area is also zoneed land use zone district.
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the properties
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This is currently accessed from Happy Jack Road, however, the applicant which wishes to move the access to Rush Creek Road, which is currently in design phase for submittal along with requiring a right of way permit through the Bureau of Land Management, which is still being processed to date.
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The applicant and Laramy County have received conceptual approvals with no concern from BLM staff as to the ultimately being, this ultimately being approved, I do believe, the other recreational permit.
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And when we can't even use regulations or statutory provisions, include Section 1, 3100 governing public notice to 1, 2, 4, 1, or 4 governing land use own districts and Section 3, 1, 1, or 9 governing commercial projects.
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And with that, we do have Mrs. Rido and her party here to answer any questions you may have to the project and provide some information.
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Ms. Rido.
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Good afternoon.
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Thank you for reviewing the final packet for our onsite plan.
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I appreciate the opportunity to go through those details of the plan to ensure that we
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have addressed the requirements necessary for your approval.
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One of the most significant issues throughout this project has been access.
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I believe it is important to explain how we arrived at the access route presented to you
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in the final plan.
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The previous bit of wire ranch operation utilized an access route for approximately 40 years and
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that accommodated its many guests.
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When we began negotiations for the purchase of the ranch in April of 2025, we attempted
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to preserve that access.
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For approximately five months, while also working to complete the purchase of the prospect property,
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we attempted to negotiate access through the seller and the neighboring properties.
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Ultimately, we were unable to secure the agreement and that would allow us to use that route for our intended operations.
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As a result, we were forced to develop an alternative means of access.
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I encourage the county and the residents of Table Mountain to recognize that hit that history when understanding the new route proposed.
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This was not our first choice. It was a route we pursued after the previous access was unavailable to us for business use.
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There has also been attempts to challenge our ability to use the residential access to our property, including access to necessarily to necessary.
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Access necessary simply to reach our home, courses, trash, service, personal property, and the like.
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Regardless of the disagreements surrounding access, our response has been to work through their
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appropriate legal and governmental processes rather than to go outside of them.
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The historical operation of Biddle-Wire Ranch include commercial trail riding,
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kids camp, group hiking, and more on the surrounding public lands.
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Whatever had occurred historically, our responsibility is to operate differently moving forward.
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We are working directly with a BOM management and other agencies so that the recreational use of the public land associated with our ranch is properly authorized and managed.
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There is oversight today, and we welcome that oversight.
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Our intention is not to just benefit from the public land surrounding this ranch.
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We want to help preserve it, protect it, and provide the opportunity for members of the public to experience Wyoming's landscape and Western heritage.
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I recognize that county road 109 is not an ideal road to add additional traffic, and that is
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a legitimate concern for residents. Our guests will be encouraged to stay below posted speed limits
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within the subdivision, a controlled speed, less than 30 miles per hour, provides a safer
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and respectful approach, but also allowing guests to appreciate the area that leaves them to
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on any woodhouse work creation area and the new entrance to our ranch.
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There will be an increase in traffic associated with our operation.
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I do not want to make light of that.
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What I can commit to is managing our guests, employees, vendors and operations
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in a matter that emphasizes reduced speeds, wildlife awareness,
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and respect for the people who live along that route.
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Wildlife protection has been one of the most important considerations in our project.
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We have communicated both with the BLM and the Wyoming Gaming Fish.
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We understand that we are operating in an area containing important wildlife habitat and public resources.
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And we take that responsibility seriously.
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I wish the existing two track road on the BLM could simply remain untouched.
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However, that road must also satisfy the access and emergency response for our property.
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The BLM requires a minimum road with and the emergency.
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The Access requirements necessitate additional width. While those improvements will change the existing
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two track, there will also mean there will also be a benefit. A better roadway can encourage vehicles
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already using the public land to remain on designated road rather than traveling off-road. Our goal is to
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make the improvements necessary for safe and compliant access while remaining sensitive to wildlife
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the surrounding landscape. The compromise to allow us to use existing mature resources to build the
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road will help us preserve the beauty of the land. From the beginning of this process,
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I have worked with Andy Bartell and Adele because I recognize that the proposed
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brush creek road improvements will have a direct impact on their property. Included in our
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packet are the engineered road plans as well as the correspondence from the Laramie County
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district addressing portions of that route that cannot fully meet certain standards and
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the mitigating measures proposed for those locations. Those measurements include two separate
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emergency pull-outs designed to improve emergency access and vehicle passage. Both the county
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right away and the bill on right away access roads will be constructed and maintained in accordance
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with the requirements and the approvals of Laramie County, the BLM, emergency emergency services
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and wildlife protections. Throughout this process, we have demonstrated that we are willing to do
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the work that is required of us. We have worked with Laramie County, County Commissioners,
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County Planning, BLM, Wyoming, Gaming Fish, Laramie County Fire Authority, Laramie County Fire
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warden, the deputy fire warden, a.m. are flight for life, the way in glyphor division, environmental health,
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public works, engineers, road professionals, biologists, and the previous owner, operator,
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who have helped us understand the responsible operation of this property. I am extremely grateful
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for everyone's assistance. We understand the approval of this site plan comes with responsibilities,
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and we do accept those responsibilities.
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Now, matter how hard I have tried in this extraordinary experience
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to make people understand my words and actions,
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I cannot accommodate everyone.
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And since this is my public comment, I just want to say,
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I serve a mighty God who I want to honor for this amazing opportunity.
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I hope to touch lives.
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I hope for people to come for healing, joy, rest and fun.
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I have a thousand ideas and visions on how I want to grow
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and transition into a treasured asset for our community.
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That is where my focus needs to be.
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I hope to make proud all the folks who have helped us get there.
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There is not a day that goes by that I don't pray for peace,
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and I will always give thanks for this endeavor.
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I am an entrepreneur, and that's how I see the world.
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Find something you love to do, work very hard in it,
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and it will bring you reward.
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This has been a journey to say the least,
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and there will undoubtedly continue to be challenges,
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But our family is excited to move forward and put a plan in place to begin operation.
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We intend to do this right.
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We intend to be good stewards of what has been entrusted to us.
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Thank you for your consideration.
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And if you have any questions.
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Any questions at this time?
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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Full staff report, please.
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Mr. Chairman, members of the Board of Justice and Honor, Jeremy County Planning.
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The Jeremy County Comprehensive Plan identifies the area as Ag and Range Land.
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This area is outside of the Plancheian future land use areas.
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At the time of this report agency review comments are still being addressed mainly access to this side of the applicant, which is to access the parcel from Bush Creek Road, which will require it to be brought up to LCL, you are current standards of 24 feet wide or is you sawing your staff report, the alternative design to be approved by this body.
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Private access through BLM land will be 20 feet wide.
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The applicant is working in good faith with BLM to establish a private access road through
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this portion of land and we'll bring it to BLM standards, which are attached to this
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report, as well as an approved access easement.
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The applicant is working with environmental health to bring property up to their standards
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for commercial uses regarding septic at the end of the time.
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At this time, the applicant is requesting phase one of the project to be allowed for smaller
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recreational uses, such as guided worse backwriting date nights, family nights, and guided
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recreational hiking. This will allow a smaller scale operation and move forward now while the road
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in access easement approval gets completed for the long-term easement, which will occur in
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phase two of the project this request as well as the preliminary road designer attached to the
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report for reference. Public notice was provided in comments have been attached to this report
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contained within the staff report. As previously stated, the board met on April 21st, 26,
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We've got in the Class C conditional use permit and approved it with a VOTA 5B0 based on section 3109 of the LCL you are commercial site plans
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Staffions, this application is in conformance with the plans and policies of Wermy County, and based on evidence provided staff recommends the board find the following in regard to phase one of the bit of WIO.
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So wrench and a vets center that a this application for phase one meets the criteria for commercial projects,
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pursue a to section 3 1 1 0 9 of the 20 25 LCOE RB.
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This application for phase one is in conformance of section 2 4 1 0 4, the 20 25 LCOE R.
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See, sufficient infrastructure exists to a last Moscow recreation and family or unit activities face one of the bit of
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project indeed. The record in this matter includes, but is not limited to the staff report
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documents present on the agenda and the entirety of the project file. Therefore,
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and the second portion
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of that is the Lermy County Board of Commissioner may find the staff finds that this application
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for phase two of the bit of RIO projects shall meet the criteria for commercial projects pursuant
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section 3-1-1-9 of the 2025 LCLU R upon completion of the conditions here in an approval of the
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Wermy County Planning and Public Works.
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See this application for Phase 2 upon completion of the conditions as described will be in
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conformance with Section 2-4-104 of the 2025 LCLU R governing the Land Use Zone District.
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See the application is in its design phase for access on Brush Creek Road in that an application
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for right away on BLM property has been submitted and is currently pending review and approval
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by that agency. I understand that they have a recreational permit. The NEPA review on the application
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may not be completed and any final approval granted until 2027. Indeed due to the limitations on space
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and topography, the access route on brush creek may comply with reduced width, has indicated
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in the incorporated letter of August 19th, 2026 from the Lermy County Fire Authority and with the
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Lermy County Emergency Management Office rather than full compliance with county road standards
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E. The record in this matter includes but is not limited to the staff report documents present
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on the agenda and the entirety of the project file. And I believe that covers it and I'm happy to answer
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any questions from the body. Any questions for Justin at this time?
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Okay, we're going to go ahead and open up the public comment.
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I'm going to go online first if you'd like to speak and you're online.
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Please raise your hand.
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Anybody online?
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Okay.
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Go ahead.
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Ms. Miller?
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Online, would you like to testify?
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And try one more time.
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If you're online and like to speak, please go for it now.
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And move on to testimony in the room.
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Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission.
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My name is John Iskard.
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I reside at 1320 Bobcat Trail.
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Thank you for this opportunity to provide in.
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But I really want to, every story, there's two sides.
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Ms. Riddle, just spoke about how they've tried everything
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to be good, law-abiding neighbors, just is not so.
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For instance, you mentioned that we have fought her
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for trash removal, getting her personal items out of the thing.
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Just isn't the case. I've sent her communication saying let's work something out. Let's let's let you
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Be allowed to get those things
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yesterday
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semi got stuck on our little two track line road
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Had to necessitate it a tow truck a big commercial great big tow truck that had to
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tow this semi out. That is not
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the retrieval of personal items as it was portrayed to you
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and more and more on that, but just know that the upset in our neighborhood is much different than has been portrayed.
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And I'd like to just say that consideration of any plan, which doesn't exclusively use a brush creek road, it isn't warranted.
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It will force them to trespass.
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Again, and further, they don't have access to wild cat trail. They've continued to use wild cat trail, with commercial vehicles.
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That semi- yesterday, that was not the first instance of that. We've had several of these.
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It's the first one that needed a tow truck to pull them out,
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but they just have ignored that. They bullied their way into it.
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This has put the issue onto the Sheriff's Department plate and we're reluctant to do that.
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We know the Sheriff has bigger and better things to do than worry about us calling each time for trespassing.
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We don't want to do that, but I think we'll be forced to do that.
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They violated the conditions set by you, the Commission, and the Planning Commission.
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The limit was 100 people maximum.
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They had a wedding, a commercial wedding that was advertised on their website, had 115 guests,
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plus a ton of staff and everything else that went through Wildcat Trail.
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These are the things that upset us that we don't know how best to deal with.
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There was alcohol served.
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They didn't have the liquor license, at least two venues where liquor has been served.
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Again, commercial activities.
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These aren't private or residents of things.
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These are big commercial events.
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I'd also like to speak about the engineer's report on the traffic study.
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In his report he talks about that it's not required because the traffic will be less than
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100 vehicles, 100 trips, and that just isn't so, they're first, again, they're first
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event there was well in excess of the 100 trips, 115 people plus the staff, all that
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well in excess, and that's just one event.
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The engineers report does not address the local traffic, the people that live there.
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And no shuttles were used.
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They mentioned, at first, they mentioned back during planning commission presentation, they
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would use shuttles for all of them.
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Then they came back and said, we're going to use shuttles for 75 events, venues that have
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more than 75 people.
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Just had the wedding, 115 people plus all the staff.
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No shuttles, so I just encourage you to please require a full and complete traffic study.
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I think that's very, very warranted.
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And then as John Douglas, he's a world-renowned pro-filer, as he said,
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The past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior, I believe that to be very, very true.
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And so as we look at their past behavior up to this point, we can expect more of that and more extreme behavior.
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The viewshed just moments ago, she talked about how they want to preserve the viewshed.
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However, what they've done is erected these great big neon signs, and must be eight foot tall with the address.
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Okay, on the hilltop.
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That's not preserving the view shed.
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They also spoke about changing the address from Happy Jack to Brush Creek.
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That sign talks about the 47-y Happy Jack address.
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Well, down, this isn't doable from happy deck.
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This is doable to our folks that live on wildcat.
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Yeah, we have the pictures of that.
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And so again, speaking out both sides of their mouths, but the actions, and that's what
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I want to really emphasize is that what they've done in the past is that we're going to
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do a few more and more of that.
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on the traffic. Traffic has been reduced. This summer being especially dry, summer, that
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dust has been very, very theft and consistent. Again, complete, complete disregard for the
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easement and the revocation of that easement. Day erected signs on Happy Jack, directing the
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in wedding venue traffic, down while in the cat, again, not good neighborly actions.
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Road damage.
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We've had road damage. Again, you get a semi-stuck. You've towed truck pulling it out. You're going to expect more of that.
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And then, per the BLM's response, they're not going to make a decision until the earliest January of
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2027.
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We really should wait for that, because they're doing a full and complete review.
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And let's just wait for that. There's no need to rush this. Let's wait for all the pieces.
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And the Commission and the Planning Commission in the past have said that.
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Yeah, let's wait for the BLNs response, and we think that that's appropriate in this case.
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And then also under Wyoming law and your own comprehensive plan, there's a duty to protect the natural resources of our county.
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Wyoming Game and Fish has determined this area to be critical, you'll dare win or range.
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Brush Creek has been designated a yellow ribbon trout stream and that runs within 200 feet of their main venue.
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All these things will be studied by the BLM and other governmental agencies.
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The County Comprehensive Plan, your county county power, I'm sorry, our County Comprehensive Plan, explicitly identifies Western area of our county
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as needing protection for the viewshed while life and steps should be taken to minimize the impact.
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Eight foot knee on signs on hilltop certainly do not comport with that requirement.
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And with that, I just again urge you to please.
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There's no need to rush this and I stand for any questions that you might have.
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Any questions?
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No, not at the time.
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Thank you, sir.
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And I just want to tell you, are these signs still there?
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Are they purely used to direct that wedding thing?
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Oh, these were after the wedding, these are very recent, and they are there.
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Okay, and maybe in an attempt to make sure they don't trespass on other property, or that's a speculation.
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I'm not sure.
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See it from OK.
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So, you have to get through this fast to see them.
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Gosh, I think.
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Thank you, sir.
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Ms. Chair.
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Would you, Commissioner Heath?
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I do have a question.
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What size of the truck was it that got stuck in there the other day?
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is it an 18-wheeler? Yes, yes a full-on family. Okay now I have another question to follow up with that
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if I'm a Mr. Chair. Do you or your neighbors ever received delivery of furniture or appliances
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say from American furniture or something along that line? Mr. Chairman, a certainly they do not
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by semis, but yes, certainly we all receive deliveries.
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So I guess my question then is, if a semis too big for that road and an American furniture delivery
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truck can get through on that road, perhaps then there might be an option to limit the size of trucks
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So can you use that road?
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Mr. Chairman, Commissioner,
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I think the point I'm trying to make is, yes, if that is through
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brush creek road, yes, I think that 24-foot width would accommodate American furniture
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trucks, larger delivery trucks as well as some ways.
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This came down Wildcat, again, they're forcing that traffic through Wildcat and that is not
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made for semis or even large American furniture trucks.
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UPS can get there, that's the end there.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, sir.
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And I just ask when you come forward if you can make sure that you speak into the mic just so
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we can make sure folks online can hear it.
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I have pictures of the truck being towed out if you need it.
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It's really not.
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I'm very aware of how big a semiaz my son drives one so but if we can just yeah
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My name is Joe Zimmerman. I live on Wildcatch 1370 Wildcatch Trail and
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I would like to
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Back up and support what are H.O.A. President has been talking about all but also introduce some new things
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And I am representing all of the Wildcatch Trail residents
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because we've been most directly impacted in the near term and
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It's not the size of the truck necessarily in the particular instance yesterday and also there were 7 or 8 other construction type trucks pick-up trucks with ladders and things like that that also used our road the point is they were violating the residential use only
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We have revoked. So that's really the point, not the size of the truck, but yeah, some I shouldn't be being used. And I'd like to point out that in the Laramie County notes of the packet with this application, it mentions that all the residential permits will have to be changed to commercial, because of the nature of the business.
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Well, that means everything that comes down that road to do any kind of maintenance or construction or repair work or whatever
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is in violation of the residential use only clause for a while cat trail. It is a single lane road.
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So that's the immediate concern we have is the increased traffic on our road.
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It's at least quadrupled, and I would say most of it with the exception of family get
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together and want not on the weekends is in violation of the easement because it is in support
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of the business side of it.
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We are also concerned, of course, as the table mountain people are with the noise level.
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The planning commission had recommended a decibel limit, and yet during the hearing
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In April, that limit was done away with, so we're concerned about that in the long term
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once the venue gets up and operate.
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And of course, we're also concerned about disturbing wildlife.
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Just this morning, one of the work trucks going up there, I saw startled a group of doze
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and fawns, and they scattered the, you know, along Wildcat Trail.
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Now, if this was at 10 o'clock at night with people that had been drinking, because they're
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not using shuttles.
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You know, it's going to happen.
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Additionally, as John had mentioned about, you know, past behavior is a good example of
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a particular future behavior.
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The applicants have shown a blatant disregard for the use of our road, and its residential use only status.
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The applicant has flagrantly trespassed on neighbor's lands.
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We have photos of her on one of the neighbor's lands, where there are clearly no trespassing
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signs.
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In the proposal, they say they want to preserve the scenic quality and rural character
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of the area.
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and yet they put up these signs. I think as a pope in the eye as a spiteful
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gesture because the only person that can see it on my house sees it and one
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other resident sees it so and you can hardly see it when you're down on the road
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unless you look up. I like I said I think it was a spiteful gesture on their
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part.
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So that to me talks about character. They also claimed actually one of the neighbors
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stopped a man at the end of my driveway because he was lost. He was looking for a bit
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of a while and he said his son was renting it. Their applicant lied to me and the
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directly at the top of the road, we were just sitting there chatting and we said, well, that's
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why we're welcome the easement because of all these violations and you're renting it.
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She said, we're not renting it. I don't know why a man would have said he was looking for
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better, why oh, because his son was renting it if it wasn't true. Also, there's a water permit
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that they pulled where it states the house will be used as a verbal in the summer. So again,
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that's commercial use.
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So, during the phase one plan, if it is approved, please don't,
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how do they plan to access it? The rush creek is just a little too track and then it turns
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into barely an ATV trail, very rugged, very steep. So, during this phase one, how do they plan to
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immediate concerns and then I just all of us have discussed after all of these various meetings.
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The purpose of the commission is to represent all of the county and that's the residence as well,
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correct, not just development and it seems like through every meeting, liquor, license, planning
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commission, it's just a rubber stamp because the applicant filled out the form right and checked all the
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boxes. We don't feel like there's actual deliberation on weather.
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Further, the project is right for the area.
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The comments are done. The vote is taken. There's no thought
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that seems to be being put into it on as to whether it is really right for that neighborhood.
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That is all I have to say. Thank you. Thank you.
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Chairman,
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fellow commissioners, thank
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for giving me the opportunity to speak before you today. My name is Karen Crown. I live in
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Table Mountain and I am the vice president for the Home Owners Association. I first heard about
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this proposal to gain access through our neighborhood for the new bit of WIO project.
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Back in November of 25, we had an HOA meeting. It was an unusual HOA meeting. This was not
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hotly discussed topic. This was everybody in agreement. Everybody in the room, which was
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probably 60 people or so. Everybody was strongly opposed. Not one person was in favor.
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That has continued to be the case throughout. I've been to meetings where we've had lots
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of people show up. We do have 217 lots out here and about 160 families because some people
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more than one lot. So we have no control over the county roads. We know that. That's up to you guys.
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However, we have to drive on them every day and it is a problem right now. In the more traffic,
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we have the more problem it's going to be. As far as potential mitigation,
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And the HOA has no control over what our members say.
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We can't negotiate for them in terms of mitigation factors or anything like that.
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So everybody has their rights and they will be coming up and talking to you about it.
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I did want you to note that according to your Laramie County land use regulation section 13100
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And the commercial review criteria, you are legally obligated to weigh the evidence presented
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by the public both today and in the past, we've had numerous people write letters starting
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back in November and continuing on.
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And one thing I noticed up here, when I was at another meeting, was there were a few people
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that spoke in favor of this and a huge number that opposed the people who spoke in favor
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were not people who were having their neighborhoods driven through or anything like that, there
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were people who lived in town. And I think that's important to note because they're not
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inflicted by this at all. I'd also like you to note that in your Lairmond County land use
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regulations, the purpose of that regulation is to promote the health safety and the general welfare
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of the citizens of Laramie County. There's a whole lot of us out here that feel like this is
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not in our favor, this is not the general welfare, there's a lot of us and a few of them that
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are safety issues with traffic, with kids, with horses, all that sort of thing. I'm going to have
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a number of people that are from table mountain are going to express their personal difficulties
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and how this is affecting their life, and so I'll be pretty sure and just urge you to follow
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your guidelines, take into the consideration the concern, so the neighbors that are affected
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by this, and don't approve this plan at this time. We request that you wait until see what
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LMSS, we've already had people driving around our neighborhood, lost, trying to find bit
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a while, and routinely coming through just, you know, like, I don't know if Google's sending
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them there or how they're supposed to go, but what's going to happen? I mean, they can't get
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through brush creek road. There's no way for that access. So, there's really no access
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for these, at this time, it just, you can't, you can maybe take a four-wheel drive, but I don't think so, you know, I've been up there once or twice and it's not like they're going to get people to drive through that, so that's the main concern for today is just that, you know, this is not the right time, January after BLM comes back and then after the road gets made, that would be the time to start the project.
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Anyway, thank you for your time. Appreciate it. Thank you. Any questions from Ms. Cohen? Thank you, ma'am.
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Hello, I'm Nancy Sleeper. I live on the table Mount Ranches. And my main thing is, I'd like this project to be taken out of its misery.
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They, we're not opposed to businesses that, that or tourism that benefits the Wyomingites,
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but we just don't want it to carve up our subdivision. This business
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could have explored other places without negative impact, like this would be.
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I wanted to show that table mountain ranches, we can also celebrate,
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the life dreams for all of us is to live there, we, there's animals and that we have and deer and antelope that deer and antelope all belong to Wyoming, they live there too.
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Folks at TMR have decided this is where they want to live the rest of their lives, our lives.
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And we're all united in this and I'd like to show just a few pictures.
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There's three things.
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Just to show how nice it is there and we protect it.
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We want it left on alone.
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And
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that's the beginning of where they would go through,
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and that's looking down the valley
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there that traffic would go right through that valley, put lots of dust and disrupt animals
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on the way, and so I think there's another one to that one and then there's one more
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I think.
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Well, just imagine really pretty pictures, and that's, that's why we have, we love that.
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And there's nothing in this site plan that will mitigate the harm that it'll do to TMR,
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and Shayan Pass.
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And there's already event centers nearby.
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There's White Antelope, Hines Lodge, world-class mountain biking at Kurt Gaudy,
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bit of wild markets itself as a unique experience. People have been hiking and horseback
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riding and camping out happy jack way for decades. And groups that need to do retreats,
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they can go to these places. They already have options, but ironically, bit of wild would be
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taking away the beauty of what people want to see in Wyoming.
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And when I hear that bit of wild would take care of the BLM.
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Nobody takes better care of the BLM than mother nature itself.
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It's just left alone.
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And you can't get that, once it's been carved up with a road and I don't care how nice the
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road is, it shouldn't be there, it's the BLM it belongs to everybody. You can't get that
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back for future Wyoming nights, so that's my thoughts.
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Thank you. Any questions from the sleeper? Thank you.
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Good afternoon, everybody. My name is Carl Sparrow today. I'm representing staggered cross
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doors as the Veteran Services Organization that seeks to help our Veteran to suffer with
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postmatic stress and moral injury, ultimately to prevent suicide. I'm not here to debate and
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discuss neighborhood disputes. I'm here to keep things pretty simple. I'm a simple fan of the
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plant saved lives.
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Vision and purpose. When I heard about what bit of why I was trying to do, I saw the vision and purpose to provide a location, and I get it. I just heard my friend Nancy, my new friend, Nancy, talk about other locations that I could go to and take my veterans.
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I get that. There's plenty of places. So don't go here. So there's plenty of rodeos. So let's
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not have CFD here. That just doesn't hold water in my head. When a partner like Biddle
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I-O would love to share, it's land to help defend our service members who defended this
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country. From the ravages of what they experienced, that would make them even think about
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suicide. To me, I will gladly explore each and every single option.
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I take my veterans out
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on retreats all over Wyoming. I know for a fact, just like anyone in this room knows for
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a fact, that the density of population of our veterans in Wyoming are going to be found here
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in Shayan. If we're talking about safety first, I'm asking you to put the safety first
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of our veterans who 22 a day is the magic number that people like to say it could be as
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highest 44. I've personally witnessed 85 veterans lives changed and saved through the work
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that my organization does, that my partner organizations do and if I can have another partner
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in Bittowio, in an effort to save their lives, not just once a year, not just twice a year,
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but literally they've offered if this gets approved, unfettered access, at no cost to our veterans.
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And yet, I keep hearing over and over, these disputes about keep things the same.
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If we keep things the same, that number 22 or 44 is not going to change.
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We can make a difference right here right now in their lives.
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I just finished leading a retreat at Little America.
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You know one of the things that they said in their feedback reports to me, I wish there were
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more outdoor activities.
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I just don't have the budget to go to all these other places.
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And oh by the way, I would mean I've already taken.
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not would be I've already taken my veterans to Centennial Wyoming, to Cody Wyoming, to
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Burgess Junction Wyoming, and these are veterans here in Cheyenne. Why can't I take them
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here in Cheyenne to enjoy the great outdoors with more private access to where they can share
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their stories and heal from their invisible wounds.
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Vision and purpose. I'm just going to keep
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very simple. The vision and purpose stated by BitOIO and the helping hand that they extended
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to my veterans, to your veterans, shouldn't their voices just because I'm not wearing
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a yellow shirt like many of these. Those voices should not be silenced as well.
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I implore
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for the vision and purpose that their organization can provide for the safety and security
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of our community.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you, sir.
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Any questions?
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Okay.
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Next.
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Health miss.
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And sorry.
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You have to get in.
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Yeah.
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I'm sorry.
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We don't take public comment back and forth.
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Good afternoon.
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Your commissioner.
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My name is Jason Wasserer.
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I'm an attorney at Long Rapper, Winnerger, Obstereated 21-20, Kerry.
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I represent Jake and Christina Baringer.
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And I'm here to provide some comments on number half.
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As you heard today from Ms. Raidell,
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there are numerous lists of people and entities that she has worked with.
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Not one of those entities was table mountain ranges, or shy and past subdivision.
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There's been no outreach to any of those groups to visit with them about the mitigating factors.
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for the effects that they'll be feeling on their subdivision.
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After we met in April,
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one of the conditions for the CUP was that we needed to show,
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lead they needed to show proof of an improved memory recording.
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That has not been recorded yet. That has not been done until January. As we stand today in September, it wouldn't hurt us to wait four more months to at least see that that process is taken care of. There are still numerous things that the BLN needs to take care of, including reviewing of the raptors, eagles, wildlife, anything else that they need to make sure that this road doesn't affect anything.
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We also don't have any answers as to who has oversight to ensure that these conditions are
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met after this final side plan is approved, who enforces violations of the site plan,
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who enforces violations of the conditional use permit.
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There is also supposed to be a parking plan that was going to use shuttles to haul people
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up to this venue.
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Doesn't look like that's going to happen anymore.
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Has that been abandoned?
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There's new risk questions that need answered about this plan before it gets approved.
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We also heard statements about the guests and ensuring that they will manage themselves in a way that does not violate any speed limits through the roads on the subdivision.
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Who's going to enforce this? We're going to have officers out there. How do we deal with guests that are unruly?
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We've also heard that the road can't meet certain standards, and there's going to be bumpouts.
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My concern with some of this stuff is they agreed to these fact that these conditions when
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this was approved in April and now we're changing them in August and September.
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I think that this site plan needs further consideration before it can be given final use.
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That's all I have today and if you have any questions I will stand for for the comment.
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Any questions from Mr. Ross Verder?
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I think I do want to comment on like who enforces violations all of the things we do.
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And our planning office does and our nuisance office does.
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So there are mechanisms in place to check and make sure that the road upgrades are to
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county standards.
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Like there are mechanisms in place with any of the site plan across the county or commercial
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site plan.
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If there's violation, it's reported, our planning staff and our nuisance staff investigate
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and there's remediation steps available through the county attorney's office.
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So, I just wanted to make sure that was on the record, that's not that we have proven and just
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Set it and forget it like we routinely check on violations of the right things chairman mom
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How soon is that that days weeks or months after a violation is reported?
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I'll let Mr. Arnold speak to the time frame
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Mr. Chairman through you just real quick. I would know that I do believe it. Maybe the applicant can clarify
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But I do believe they were approved by BLM for a recreational permit which is separate in a side
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and the proposal for the phasing of the two different portions of the project.
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When there's violation of the Lermy County land use regulations, if it's issue with life-taved
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to your public health, we can do a cease-in-dismediately.
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And debate that issue generally, our processes are we then certified letters to the property
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owner to ensure that they receive the correspondence outwind what violations have taken
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place in accordance with the commercial site planned and or any other provision of the
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and use regulations, give them an appropriate amount of time to abate the issue, and then if they don't,
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we send a citation, memorandum over to the county attorney's office as well as the civil division of the Sheriff's Department,
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which they service that citation, it is must appear in court in the court of competent, competent jurisdiction decides what the fines may be related to the violation at that point.
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Right. Chairman Mawn to Mr. Arnold, has there been a right of way issued?
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Because you said there's a recreational permit, but has there been a right of way through
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the BLM?
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So we can have the document.
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Mr. Chairman, through you in correct me if I'm wrong.
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Mrs. Reedell, that you have a recreational permit that allows the horse backwriting
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the minor type utilization to use the road as it currently exists.
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And then the secondary permit will have all of the wildlife assessments approved by BLM as well as the roadway improvements for the 24 with as part of that secondary permit.
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Chairman Malm to Mr. Arnold, does that include wedding events or is it just for reparations?
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Mr. Chairman, through you, it is specific to the first backwriting the date night, the low intensity uses this part of phase two,
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which would require all infrastructure improvements to include Brush Creek Road, the BLM before the actual venue could open up for the wedding portion of it.
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So we're still waiting on that final.
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That's Mr. Chairman 3.
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That's my understanding, Mr. Wasper.
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Thank you, Mr. Wasper.
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Good afternoon, commissioners.
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My name is Justin Hasser.
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I represent Kelly Zimmerman of the KZ Trust and Lisa Lose of the LL Trust to own neighbouring property at 4.
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May 4, happy jack road. My client's echo a lot of the comments and questions submitted by neighboring landowners
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and writing, and those made today. I'm going to touch on two issues, but I want to just briefly address
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that where we left off. I understand that Ms. Rital has been granted a recreational permit.
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But the fact remains that to get to the property, Rush Creek has to be used. And there's no...
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In the materials that I saw, there's nothing that says what's going to happen with brush
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Greek. In fact, it's my understanding that you're going to, if you adopt the proposed
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resolution and motion, that you will allow her to use brush Greek in its current state, not
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up to county standards. So, that in mind, and that issue, I think, needs more addressed. But I
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really want to address two specific issues. And the first is that the site plan should not
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approved until such time that the BLM easement has approved and executed.
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And if I may, I have a couple exhibits I just want to just two pages each if I could approach.
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So as you know, this matter was originally set to be heard on August 4th.
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Prior to that meeting, I heard that it was postponed and reached out to, I believe, Mr. Davis first
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to determine if that was the case.
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In response, I got a straightforward and clear email for Mr. Arnold.
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That's what's before you, the first page.
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As you can see, it plainly states that the site plan will be, quote, postponed and definitely
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until such time that the final BLM easement is executed.
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It goes on to say that Larry McCowny will provide notices to when the hearing will take
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place after the finalized easement documentation is received by the applicant.
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Nothing has changed since August 4th, and certainly no new public notices that she would
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regarding what appears to be a phased site plan.
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No response, no dose was given to me or my clients that this would now be up after this email was sent.
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As a result, you should follow Mr. Arnold's directive and postpone this matter until the BLM easement is approved.
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Second, if you do proceed and allow redal ventures to open with phased one activities prior to bringing brush creek road to current county standards,
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Then you will, in fact, be allowing her to violate the conditions you set in April for the
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Class C Conditional Use Permit.
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That's the second page that's before you, and if you look at it, it very clearly states
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following
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conditions.
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The applicant must bring brush creek road to current county standards for a public roadway,
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and the private access easement through Bureau of Land Management, parcel to current
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county standards for private access.
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Nothing has changed since April.
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And retail ventures should still be required to bring rush quick road to current county standards.
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At the very least, if you approve her plan, there must be much more detail regarding what limitations and constraints there will be during the operation of the so-called first phase.
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Again, there are numerous issues with the site plan, most of which have been presented today when writing previously.
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But until such time as the final bill and easement exists, no one knows all possible issues, and it's premature to approve this plan.
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And therefore I ask that you stand by Mr. Arnold's statements and postpone this manner and definitely until the bill on is in it is executed.
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I also want to raise another issue that I just based on some comments that were made both by Mr. Arnold and others here today.
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If I heard Mr. Arnold's report, there were a number of findings that I do not believe were in the publicly available document that comes out available on Friday.
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I could be wrong, but I heard like findings through I think D and what I'm looking at, what's available online only goes through, I believe, B or C.
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I'm concerned about that, concerned about other notice issues, and I recognize that you all have a difficult job and receive criticism, you're not going to make everyone happy.
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It's the nature of being a decision maker, I get it.
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The key is not the decision being made but the process.
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Both applicants and residents must trust the Commission and Planning Department will
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follow the laws regulations provided transparent and fair process.
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When this trust exists, we can agree to disagree on ultimate decisions.
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However, when you lose this trust, the decision doesn't matter because the process is no longer fair.
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With all due respect to the Commission and Mr. Arnold moving forward today despite clear notice
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to a neighboring landowner that this matter will be postponed indefinitely, is not fair.
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Further, allowing regional ventures to ignore conditions that you established in April for a
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will use permit would provide inconsistent resolutions and demonstrate a lack of desire to enforce basic requirements previously adopted by this body after public input.
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Whatever you do today, please ensure that it is fair and follow the established regulations and processes that this commission and the county should follow.
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Be happy to answer any questions.
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questions. I think I'll address or note the difference in maybe what was right and what was
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publicly available. That was due to the county attorney wanting a little bit more
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kind of numerated things that are already actually mentioned in that full staff report,
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but they are just referenced individually in the one that was read in the
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directed by Justin Arnold, our planning director. So all of that information is available and was
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available on Friday in regards to the notice I won't speak to that but I just wanted to address
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the difference in what you heard and what was on the packet.
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Okay.
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I appreciate that.
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Thanks sir.
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All right.
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Before you guys come back up.
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I just want to warn I don't want to get into like a back and forth.
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So I know that you're coming up in reference to something that was said.
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So I'd just ask you to keep it brief and let's really try not to go back and forth.
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Yes, Mr. Chairman, Joseph and I don't know if this is appropriate, but I am a disabled veteran.
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I have found many, many places in Wyoming to commune with nature to heal, to be at peace.
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Bit of wild is not required for that purpose.
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That's all.
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Thank you.
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I'm Nancy Sleeper.
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I forgot to hand this in.
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It's pulled a microphone.
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You can bring it on up.
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Thank you.
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So, just for the record, she's handed me a petition signed by, I believe, residents of the area in regards to the proposed site plan.
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Am I correct?
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I'll go with the deal for that.
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Well, I'll deal in her that in the record.
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Thank you.
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Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, just wanted to make a comment, the gentleman that spoke about veterans resources.
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There are several combat veterans that live in Cheyenne Pass.
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We picked that place for the Serenity, the solitude that it provides, and it's unfair
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to position this activity, this venture that he's proposing, as he mentioned, there's several
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venues across the state, that counter pose that, with the veterans that combat veterans
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that live in Table Mountain and Cheyenne Pass who live there that is providing upset too.
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Kevin, thank you sir.
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All right, anyone else?
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Good afternoon.
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Good afternoon.
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I'm Tom Bologste.
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I live at 714 High Merit Road in Table Mountain ranches living there for 35 years peacefully.
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And I want to formally request a wild fire risk assessment to be required for the conditional use permit.
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Also, I want to formally request that a fire mitigation requirement is imposed on the business.
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Buffer zones, fire breaks, clearing of flammable materials, on-site suppression equipment,
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operational restrictions, including the road-wide name, rural, fire and emergency vehicles,
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to stop any potential fires from reaching table mountain ranches.
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These expanses should be paid by right-eal ventures LLC and be repeated every fall throughout
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Breast Creek Canyon, as well as clearing the overgrowth on the shoulders of value you
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drive.
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Table Mountain Ranches is situated immediately downwind to the east of their proposed entertainment
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project, and Red Flag Warnings had been consistently posted for the area.
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Fresh Creek as its name suggests provides serious fire dangers with dead
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temper, excessive brush, growth, and tall grasses that serve like a fuse to quickly
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Report any fires directly into table-mounted branches. This serious and deadly threat to innocent residents, their homes, livestock, and belongings, has not been addressed in any meaningful ways.
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Yet, hundreds of visitors are proposed to be transported to this entertainment area throughout the spring-to-fall seasons, where deer and loping cattle used to roam, to instead party and celebrate, meaning often drinking.
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drugging and smoking. The threats of fire naturally and dramatically increase and will burn with
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the wind driving them directly into table mountain ranches. Steepills surrounding creek will quickly
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spread the fire but firefighting efforts will have poor or no access to contain many of these
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spreading blazes into this subdivision. Hence the hundreds of people and their homes throughout
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table mountain ranches appeared to be engraved danger. This is especially true when we remember
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that the fires several years ago, they started just east of the bunkhouse bar and burned
[2:01:09]
for miles to northwest Cheyenne. Well, table mountain ranches obviously stands in direct danger,
[2:01:17]
shadow mountain and other new residential areas to the east, a similarly face destruction.
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If we've learned anything from the northern front range of Colorado, we need to do everything
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we can to prevent such dangerous fires.
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In addition, while the business is making money, the homeowners in table mountain ranches
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will likely have their home insurance rates double, as has happened in similar Colorado front
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range locations.
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In addition, further expenses for vehicle damages and insurance, windshield replacements
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often now cost more than $1,000, plus other repairs and cleaning expenses will further
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threaten residents livelihoods.
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Will right-eal ventures take any responsibility for covering these expenses that they are
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forcing on table mountain household?
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They have so far demonstrated no concern for the problems that they're foisting on table
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mountain residents.
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For instance, we can predict deaths and injuries due to their clientele and deviated
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from partying, driving unfamiliar narrow roads with blind hills, inviting head-on collisions,
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and steep shoulders leading to rollovers.
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Not only placing their clientele at risk, but more tragically placing innocent local residents, their animals and local wildlife and danger as well.
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In addition, our peaceful neighborhood will be disrupted by excessive traffic, noise dust and vehicle damages, as you've heard others talk about.
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Residents of Table Mountain ranches chose this by a neighborhood to live in as a test
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to two by everyone driving at least an hour each day to work to avoid these kinds of stressful
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circumstances.
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The benefits of this project go to the business.
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While the costs are irresponsibly forced on local residents who get no benefits as everyone
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and table mountain meetings have been against the project.
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In their prior business venture, they were reported by neighbors to misrepresent and
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violate agreements, so the neighbors would not allow this project to be used the existing
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road from happy jack road to reach their proposed business site.
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Now they're exploiting all table mountain, as well as causing multiple expenses to land
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county for road repairs continued grainy, sheriff and emergency services. Hence, they are continuing
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their poor neighborhood practices, especially with table mountain residents. We asked that you
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be a good neighbor to table mountain ranches and protect us at least mentally, with wildfire,
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risk assessment, and mitigation efforts, as required conditions for their conditional use permit.
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Finally, if I were a county commissioner, and chose to not protect table-mountain ranches
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in surrounding developments, especially with all the red flag warnings, signaling predictable
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danger, that may cost up to millions of dollars in damages and threats to many residents
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lives, I'd plan to never be elected again.
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privately, I'd likely struggle to rest my life with the decision I made.
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Thank you.
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Any questions?
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Thank you, sir.
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Anyone else like to come forward for the public hearing?
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One more time, public hearing?
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Public hearing having met as purpose, the public hearing is closed.
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Commissioners.
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Mr. Chairman, I moved to approve the Phase One site plan for the bit of while ranch and events situated in a portion of land of the northeastern quarter of section 11, township 14, north, 371.
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of the 6th PM, Lamey County Wyoming, with the following conditions.
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Condition 1, applicant shall acquire and submit to Lamey County Planning Department, the
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Recreational Access Permit, provided by the United States Bureau of Land Management, which
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would permit the use indicated in the Incorporated Request by Applicant of Approval of the
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Phase 1 Operation.
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Condition 2, applicant will obtain if necessary from Lamey County Planning and Development
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and the shy and Lamey County Environmental Health Department approval for activities consistent
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with Phase I operations as described in the Incorporated Document.
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Furthermore, I would move to approve the Phase II site plan for Bitawial Ranch and events
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as submitted in the application and reflected in the documentation contained in the project file
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and this matter situated in the portion, a land in the north-the-quarter of section 11
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township 14 north-range 70 west of the Sixth-Bensville, Meridian, Glamour County, Wyoming,
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and will be considered approved upon completion of the following conditions.
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Condition 1, Rush Creek Road and the BLM easement with Final Approval by the BLM must be designed and built through a right away permit with acceptance by Larry County Public Works and with approval by the BLM.
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They shall meet the requirements within the Larry County line just regulations for the roadways and floodplain crossings. The approved access easement from BLM shall be submitted with the right away permit as indicated hearing and a reduction in which the due in which due to the topography for Rush Creek Road shall be permitted.
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Condition 2, the applicant must show proof from the environmental health that they have satisfied their standards for commercial use.
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Condition 3, the applicant must show proof of an approved and recorded easement agreement between landowner and the Bureau of Land Management.
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Condition 4, the applicant must comply with the recommendations as outlined in the letter incorporated into this report from the Wyoming Game and Fish Department.
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Condition 5, the applicant must resolve any outstanding agency comments including but not limited to those in the incorporated permit notes prior to find
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approval for the commencement of operation, condition number 6, the applicant must show
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proof of an approved and recorded agreement between landowner and the Bureau of Land Management,
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and finally the applicant must resolve any outstanding agency comments prior to final
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approvals for the commencement of operation for the sake of discussion.
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Okay, I can have a motion in a second, discussion by the commission on the motion.
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Mr. Chairman, if I could, I would just like a little more maybe reasoning about the
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phasing of the project, and why we would split it up into a phase one, versus phase two.
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If that's okay, I don't know, I'm sorry to put you on the spot there, Justin, but I think
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some clarification there would be welcomed.
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Mr. Chairman, through you, Commissioner's law, it's our my understanding of it is that
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a recreational permit allowing the existing access road through the BLM to be utilized as
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for a couple of horseback riders or a day-night or something that that effect can be covered under
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the recreational permit while they work out the long-term easement. So they have basically
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face the approvals through Bureau of Land Management, which the applicant is trying to make
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comments. So initial phase with the horseback riding, minor operations, and then another document
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to be executed for the full shabang, the whole 20-foot wide roadway, which would be a condition
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of approval to commence operations for the motion.
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Copy, Edrick, continuing to you, Mr. Chairman.
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It is also my understanding that without the approval of the initial phase one site plan,
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the applicant is unable to do any kind of work on the property whatsoever to improve it,
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essentially, not whatsoever, but she's required to at least have a phase site plan in order
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to even begin any improvements.
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And part of that was brought on through the Wyman-Gaming Fish Study for the Habitat to make sure it doesn't interrupt the mildier migration.
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Yeah, it doesn't.
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But, yeah, Mr. Chairman, through you commissioners wanted to say, yeah, they look at that stuff.
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So we're making it a condition of approval within any mitigation factors.
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They can be that wide-out would recommend would be incorporated into that.
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Going to backtrack, no, there would be no commercial operations related to the event venue.
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And unless we approved phase one, now they can have private events, which is, I believe, what happened with the event that was mentioned earlier, which was private, it would be commensurate with a graduation party, or something to that effect, but full operations for bit a while as a commercial.
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Service, the public would require the approvals.
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Okay, we've got you. So, they're furthermore, you couldn't begin to improve the septic or anything of that nature without some sort of approval of a site plan, whether that be phase one or phase two.
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Mr. Chairman, through you commissioner is one, it's understood. So, our building permit, we have to have a certificate of review and approve site plan to issue the building permits.
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It's a little bit more muddy because environmental health is their own agency so there's nothing in their regulations to say that you can't pull a commercial building permit all of this is at risk because it's subject to the other pieces of the puzzle that being our commercial site plan our commercial building permits so on and so forth
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So theoretical I think from a legal standpoint you can pull a septic permit to make improvements, but then designing it to a commercial standard
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And then doing any installations is completely a risk given the fact that potentially the entire operation could be denied for commercial use.
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Thank you, Mr.
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Chair, so a lot to think about a lot to consider here.
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I think the comment that we're a rubber stamp, don't think about any of this, I think was insulting it best.
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Because we do, we read every email, we read every letter, we read all of that.
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Bottom line is this is a property that's been here since the late 80s and through the 90s we had weddings, we had trail rides, this is a business that has been out there and has been functioning.
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You can go on the old bit of wild website and you can see the pictures from these events.
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I think, you know, to Mr. Hesers comments and, you know, showing us the previous resolution,
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we do have the ability to come back and say, listen, there's a different circumstance.
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So they've got the recreational permit. They want to do that. They have the ability to come and apply to us and say, can we do this in phases?
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So I think we have well within our rights to do that, and so I think it's appropriate to do that.
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We do have the ability to make those changes.
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The comment about being fair.
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A couple people said, let's make the decision that's fair.
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What is fair?
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If I'm on property, do I have the right to use my property?
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If there's public roads, do I have the right to use public roads?
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I mean, to me, that sounds fair, you know, that the easement in Off of Happy Jack, which
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makes so much more sense, I think, for this business than coming through Table Mountain.
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Is it fair that they're no longer allowed to use that, probably not, but that's what we're
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dealing with.
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And so, is it fair for the owner to have to go through BLM?
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Is it fair for the BLM to give her access?
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I don't know.
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I think it is.
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I think it's fair for the owner to have the right to try to run this business at a business
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that has been existing since the 1990s, maybe in the 1980s.
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The question about waiting until January, again, I think, given the fact that they have
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the recreational permit through the BLM, I think it makes sense to allow them to do the phase
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one things that we're allowing to do today.
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So again, makes sense to me to proceed with that, and then I want to touch on one thing that
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and to Mr. Boggs, he says, you know what I would expect and ever get elected again and you
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are living with yourself. We deal with this decision all the time. I mean, usually it's not
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this contentious, but sometimes it is. And we get exactly what Mr. Sleepers said. We are not
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opposed to business. We're not opposed to tourism. We just don't want it in our backyard.
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I get that.
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is to deal with that very sentiment.
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And so how do we balance what somebody wants to do with their land?
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And we hear all the time.
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It's my land, go much and tell me what I can't do with it.
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And then we hear all the time.
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The neighbors say, hey, this is my land.
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You have to protect me from what my name
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will wants to do.
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So all the time, we deal with this issue.
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And I would tell you, I think, by using our land use regulations
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by saying, you need to improve this road to this standard
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by doing this, by putting five conditions on the one and six
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conditions on the other, whatever the number was, I think that's how we do
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that to try to protect the neighbors. So I'm in favor of this, I'm going to
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vote in favor of this today. I think it's fair, and I think it's appropriate for
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us to let these folks get this business back up and running to the way it used to be.
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So that's where I'll be today. Thank you, Commissioner Thompson. Anyone else?
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Commissioner Heath. I'm gonna try and not get emotional here.
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I wish Carl was still here. I believe that was his name and he was speaking about the veterans that he's able to take out and spend time with nature.
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We have a lot of veterans here in Lermy County. We have a lot of people in Lermy County that have got mental health problems, PTSD, TBIs, etc.
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It has been found that getting out in nature, whether it's fly-fishing, hiking, writing horses,
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dealing with animals, whatever is good.
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It helps to rewire the minds.
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And you know, the comment was made that we can go to, they can go to Cody, they can go to
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Centennial, they can go to here or there, but we have a heavy population of veterans
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here in Lermon County.
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Why should they have to go to Cody?
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Why should they have to go to Centennial?
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And especially in the winter, to access that kind of treatment, that kind of available recreation
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to help them heal.
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We sent them to another country, and I know we've got some veterans in the room.
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We sent them to another country to fight, and they came home wounded, and it's a wound that's
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inside.
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It's not a wound that you can see on the outside.
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It's inside.
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They need our help, they need our support, and so I'm
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from that point of view, I think that what
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Mr. Rital is trying to do to assist our veterans, I admire her for that. There's an opportunity
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there to help these people heal.
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And as far as fire danger is concerned, I know when this
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came up in April, I spoke to this. We can't expect everybody that develops property
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whether it's commercial or residential, to have fire protection equipment on site, to prevent
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fires, the wind changes. As the folks that thought that were involved with the fires and saw
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the fires up around Crawford this summer, the fires in the sand hills of Nebraska, the wind
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blew from every direction imaginable and kept moving those fires. It didn't just blow a one direction.
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You can do the fire mitigation. We should all be practicing that. I don't care where we live.
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It's not going to be a bonfire or a trash fire that starts. It might be lightning.
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You can't control where that strikes. That can strike any place.
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It can strike in my front yard. It can strike in table mountain ranch.
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It can strike any place. Fire is unpredictable, just like the weather.
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Now, the comment was made, we won't be elected, well, I'm not going to be going into the
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general.
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So maybe I'm going to be stepping on some toes here.
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Maybe I've got the freedom to say some things that should be said.
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I know that the residents don't want this activity at Bitterwile, but I want to ask you a question.
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If Mr. Rital wasn't working on this land and trying to bring it back to life, this property,
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what would happen to it?
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Would it become decayed and decrepit? Fall apart? Then what would you have?
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I look at this as an asset to your community to let me count as a whole.
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Not just as a commercial operation, I see an opportunity here for Jeremy County to enjoy some land that, yeah, it's set back in
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the off the road, off the beaten path, but there's something to be said for being able to be out in that kind of an environment and enjoying nature.
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I'll be in support of this.
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Thank you, Commissioner.
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Anyone else?
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Okay.
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Quickly, we do listen.
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As Commissioner Thompson mentioned, I've read every email,
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I've read every, look at every picture, completely understand.
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But when we listen, the most is when we make rules, right?
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Like, that's when this process is the most important is when we make rules
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as it relates to land use regulations.
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And when we made those last time this room was filled with 500 people
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They'll aid a clock at night telling us that they didn't want the government telling them what to do with their land.
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And I didn't see in those changes that we're trying to do were to protect rural residential neighborhoods from high use businesses.
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And this room had no supporters of the rural changes that we were talking about.
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Once we have rules we need to be clear and consistent and transparent with how we apply them, though. This was a historical use for this property.
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There was a discussion about that. There's more people here against it and the people for it are living in town.
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Protection of private property rights, many times, is protecting the rights of one against many people.
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because that's the most fundamental thing. It's not a rule of the majority, protection of
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private property rights, sometimes requires you making an unpopular decision to many
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protect the rights of one person. It's a public roadway, I understand. I understand that this
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is the not ideal situation for the tablemouth and the ranches, and it's not the ideal situation
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for the owner.
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I've got to tell you, I'm incredibly disappointed that we're here right now
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And it's like this, because I have people on both sides of this room that I respect a great deal.
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And I feel like we are here, and this is this contentious, because of two people who happened to maybe one of them got married at this site, and now doesn't think that it should be utilized for a wedding venue.
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And to me, that's insane.
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But they have stirred up neighborhoods against each other, and people against each other, in a way they don't even live here.
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And they've turned neighbor against neighbor, not Wyoming.
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That is not Wyoming, and it is disappointing to me as a commissioner.
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It's disappointing to me as a citizen of Laramy County
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that that's why we're here right now having people in different colored shirts
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and we have animosity and they haven't done this and they haven't kept their word and
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and there's just so much tension. And I feel that it is all spurn and drawn
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about by people that aren't even from here. And I am disappointed.
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Because I think that this is a great asset. It was a great, it was a good enough place to get
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20 years ago for some people, so why isn't it enough place to get married today?
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And so I will be in support of this resolution in this site plan.
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I think the phasing is the appropriate way to go and I commend our staff for working with
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the applicant to try and address issues to make it a reasonable process because I think that's
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what government should do is work in a reasonable way with the people.
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So with that, we'll call please.
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Commissioner Heath. Hi. Commissioner Hollingswood. Hi. Commissioner Thompson. I.
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Commissioner's wine is there. Hi. Chairman M.O. Hi. Is there anything else to come
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before us today? Mr. Chairman, there's no further business. All right, we are adjourned. Thank you.