Town of Leo-Cedarville Plan Commission September 8th, 2026

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[0:01] [snorts] >> Thank you all for coming. I am filling
[0:05] in for the president, Mr. Darko, who's not able to be here tonight.
[0:09] Um we will open the public hearing to the 2026-03.
[0:16] Oops, sorry. Case mission 2026-03 for
[0:20] an application for re-plat, and the public hearing is open.
[0:24] » Do you want to do the agenda first, sir? >> Um
[0:27] » Google. >> No.
[0:29] » Okay. >> the public hearing first.
[0:30] » First. >> Yeah, and then we do the meeting.
[0:32] » Okay.
[0:34] » So, go ahead. >> Yeah, so before you guys tonight is a a
[0:38] re-plat including waivers for the address 10222
[0:44] River View Drive, the Indiana parcel number
[0:48] 0203352-033.
[0:52] I do have all the documentation in your packet, including the
[0:56] application, the waivers uh that are included in that
[1:02] are requests procedurally to remove some requirements, and the
[1:06] requirements are that many of the things that we
[1:10] require as part of our re-plat are not can't be done because other agencies
[1:16] don't do them. We are one of the We are the only agency that requires it to go
[1:20] through a primary and a secondary within our code.
[1:24] Um so, the waiver would would basically eliminate the need for a
[1:29] second meeting 45 days if you guys so choose to approve that.
[1:34] So, that is what's in front of you. Uh it would still be required, if it's
[1:40] approved tonight, the waivers and the primary
[1:44] and um it would still be required to go to the
[1:47] town council for final approval.
[1:51] So, I can explain more of that if you have
[1:54] any specific questions, but procedurally, we're most
[1:59] areas only require one meeting for a replat,
[2:02] and the town of Leo Cedar Hill still requires two.
[2:10] » If you have a question, can you sign in on
[2:12] and then go up and ask your questions?
[2:24] So, the when you say a replat, is that just mean
[2:27] you're dividing up >> Yep, so it's just a basically a parcel
[2:30] split, and I started getting to it here, and then my my s-
[2:34] time hit. Give me 1 second, and I'll throw it on the screen so you guys can
[2:37] see what what it is. >> Is this one person?
[2:40] » Yes, as long as it has the easement at the
[2:44] end. >> It does.
[2:47] » Yep.
[2:51] All right, it'd be on the west edge, far west edge of the parcel, against the
[2:57] pine trees that are there now. >> Each
[3:18] » What?
[3:21] There's one there. >> [clears throat and cough]
[3:30] » There's a lot.
[3:36] I'm sorry. I was just There's a lot.
[3:42] » We need to stand at the microphone >> Yeah,
[3:45] if you guys can stand at the microphone when you guys go to talk, so that way we
[3:47] can make sure we get it recorded.
[3:51] Sorry, I know it's a lot of procedure, but it has to go out live, so.
[4:06] » Do you have any other questions I can help you with?
[4:14] Okay, my only other question is this is a gift to us.
[4:17] What's your name? >> Your name?
[4:19] » Okay, McAllen. >> Okay.
[4:22] » Um if you leave it next to us and then your
[4:25] parents pass I just want to make sure that they can't
[4:28] divide that period and put bonds on another house on the lot.
[4:32] » Uh I don't believe they'd have enough square footage with what I see there to
[4:35] get that done. Um basically the house that they're
[4:38] sitting on that lot is going to take up a good portion of that square footage
[4:42] with the rear setback requirements, the rear easement, the side easement, and
[4:46] then the front setback requirements. Though it says it's 0.736
[4:51] acre, there's not that much left to build on
[4:55] when it really comes down to it, to be honest. So, they would have to It'd be
[5:00] I don't think it could be done, to be honest. It would I I would never say
[5:03] never, it would but it it would be very hard in the current situation.
[5:07] So. >> So, we trust these guys but something
[5:09] would happen I just want to know that nobody else is
[5:12] going to come in and >> I I don't know.
[5:14] » and build like >> Yeah.
[5:16] » three houses down there. >> No, I don't see how that could be done.
[5:21] » if you're going to comment, you got to come up front.
[5:23] » Okay. >> So,
[5:25] yeah, I I I just don't see how that could be done, to be honest.
[5:28] » Okay. >> I would never say never, but looking at
[5:31] all the setback and rear boundary lines and the rear it just it'd be hard.
[5:36] » Thank you.
[5:38] » Really hard.
[5:41] » For just a minute say my name the first time. Um
[5:45] the passage of just a couple months ago of a square [snorts] footage
[5:50] per lot. But could that ever affect the rest of the houses on that street?
[5:55] » So, cuz what was like 8,250? So, that's that's a different zoning
[5:59] classification. So, this is an R3, that'd been an R5.
[6:03] » What does that fall under? >> Uh so, R5 is essentially set up for
[6:06] multi-family. Uh where you got to have over 8,000 or
[6:10] 8,000 square foot per uh family unit. Um this is R3, and I believe it's 9,000
[6:17] square foot requirement per lot. Um so, while I again, while I get there
[6:23] it'd be a really small house to go in there if they were
[6:26] » No, no, I agree. I didn't know if that would affect or could affect any of the
[6:30] other houses. >> No. No. So, that's it's already zoned.
[6:34] It's not zoned R5, it's zoned R3 currently.
[6:36] » Okay. All right, very good.
[6:44] » Is there any more questions from the public?
[6:49] Then we will close the public hearing. And we will now open in the regular
[6:53] Planning Commission meeting.
[6:58] » [clears throat] >> I will take a motion for approval of the
[7:00] agenda with flexibility. >> So moved.
[7:04] » Second. >> Second.
[7:05] » You second that, Randy? Is that right?
[7:08] » Yeah. >> And Jerry and Randy seconded it at the
[7:11] same >> All in favor?
[7:13] » Aye. >> Aye.
[7:16] » I will take a motion to review and approve the meeting minutes from the
[7:20] August 2026 meeting. >> I make a motion we approve the minutes
[7:26] from the previous meeting.
[7:29] » Great. I second that. All in favor?
[7:33] » Aye. >> Aye.
[7:37] » We just had the public hearing for PC 2026-03.
[7:43] And now Tyler will present review or the finding of facts for waivers and the
[7:48] finding of facts for the replat. >> So, uh before you have a finding fact
[7:54] that uh for the waivers they requested um as part of that it says the requested
[7:58] waivers are intended to facilitate the review and approval process of the
[8:02] replat while we were uh recognizing the nature and circumstances of the property
[8:06] and pro- proposed platting action. The approval of these findings allows the
[8:10] commission to approve the primary and secondary plats in the same meeting as
[8:13] all documents have been turned in and reviews have been complete. Uh
[8:17] essentially it goes through and it it says that uh this positive finding of
[8:20] facts says that the uh
[8:24] that you guys have no objections with the
[8:27] waving them and and it's really the like 25 copies of
[8:32] the plat to be turned in. Um procedurally it would require a
[8:37] sign-off from the Allen County um surveyor's office. Well, the surveyor's
[8:42] office won't review it because it's already a plat and it's already been
[8:44] approved, so they're not coming back to review it. So,
[8:46] uh each one of those is is along those lines. It's very specifically tied to a
[8:50] certain approval that is not needed um because
[8:56] uh it it is already in a plat.
[9:00] The only one that you will find in your packet is the uh sewer or sewer
[9:05] district. The sewer district gave them one more ERU, so there's already one ERU
[9:09] on that property. With the split, they'll need a second
[9:12] ERU and the and the sewer district has approved that.
[9:16] The waivers also eliminate the 45-day waiting period, and that's really for
[9:21] infrastructure improvement. There's no infrastructure improvement with the
[9:23] replat. It is literally putting a line on a piece of paper and actually for
[9:27] them two lines a adding easement line to the east edge.
[9:32] Um you guys have any questions on that?
[9:41] » I wanted to have a hearing to approve the signing effects for the waivers.
[9:45] » I'd like to make a motion that we approve the
[9:47] PC 26-03. We have four 10222 Riverview Drive.
[9:55] » I'll second it. >> And that was just for the waiver court.
[9:58] » Yeah, that's the waiver. >> Okay, thank you.
[10:01] » All in favor? >> Aye.
[10:05] » So, the second one is the actual finding of facts for the lot. Um
[10:10] and basically it says that it goes through each one of the questions that
[10:14] it's not interest to the community, that property values will actually be helped
[10:18] in that area with the new houses. Um and that it is consistent with our
[10:23] envision planning in there. You guys can read through each of those. It is a
[10:27] positive finding effect. If you guys choose to vote no, then I will make some
[10:31] adjustments to it and sign it then.
[10:36] » I got [snorts] one question and I don't know what at what point in the meeting I
[10:39] can ask it. Can you move that drawing so we can see the uh
[10:46] uh what's it
[10:50] There you go. There you go. Okay, if I'm if I'm
[10:55] seeing this right and you're looking at the lot lines,
[11:00] that street is on private property.
[11:04] So, >> Well, there's an easement in there.
[11:08] » Okay. So, there is an easement there. >> Yes.
[11:13] For the turnaround? >> Yeah.
[11:15] » Yeah, that turnaround that >> Yeah.
[11:17] » It just to me seems like it shouldn't be on a
[11:21] a private property cuz now you're going to improve and it's on private property
[11:25] or improving it. >> So, there would be an easement with that
[11:27] street. >> And it's already there. It's in
[11:31] » I I did not it, but I would guess that it is, yes. It was done prior to my
[11:36] existence, so >> Well,
[11:40] okay.
[11:43] » That's that's one thing that I that I don't really care for right
[11:47] there, but
[11:51] And we can dry out prior discussion with >> him about this stuff? Did you have a
[11:53] prior discussion with him about this stuff?
[11:55] » No. >> Okay.
[11:56] » Not that. >> Okay.
[11:58] » I did ask who Uh I did ask the title company about who
[12:03] maintained the street. >> Yeah.
[12:06] » So, I would guess and I can go back and look and I'm assuming that if it's if
[12:10] it's that if that's a sticking point, I can add it as a contingency in the
[12:13] finding of facts that
[12:16] we ensure that that easement exists for that roadway. It does not change their
[12:20] build lines or anything like that. They would just have to get us an easement
[12:23] and uh
[12:24] drawing in for that. >> Okay, it's just a technicality that
[12:28] » Yeah. >> somewhere down the road it could come to
[12:31] bite you if somebody wanted to be really uh
[12:33] stickler about things. >> Are we not able
[12:37] » How long is it going to take you to check that?
[12:40] » Uh I'd have to reach out to them. The
[12:42] » Okay. >> It's going to take It's not It's not a
[12:44] phone call. It's not a phone >> Okay.
[12:45] » No, it was not a phone call. >> Okay.
[12:49] » Uh >> Maybe.
[12:52] » Cuz I thought we would see his name on there.
[12:55] I could be wrong. >> Let me go to land guide.
[12:58] I didn't know if it was something we had back in our prior meetings.
[13:01] » Mhm. >> Let me go to land guide. That'll tell
[13:04] me. >> [clears throat]
[13:10] » Send me an email if you have any questions.
[13:14] » I have to go to Ashley What's What's the average
[13:17] um lot size in that area?
[13:21] » That's a good question. >> The average lot size in that area?
[13:25] Uh just shy of an acre. So, 0.8 to 0.94 96.
[13:31] » Do these fit within the averages? >> They're pretty close. I mean, they're
[13:34] 0.76, I think, is the smaller one. And 0.89 [clears throat] is the bigger
[13:38] one. So, they're within the averages in that
[13:42] area. So, to be fair,
[13:45] that whole turnaround is not on It's So, the north half of that is in city of
[13:49] Fort Wayne property and it's not a public easement and the
[13:52] south half is on their property. So, basically, the whole
[13:57] turnaround is outside of easements.
[14:02] » Okay.
[14:04] » So, like I said, we can ask them to add that an easement line around there. I
[14:09] don't know that it's going to be
[14:12] Actually, I take that back. The other easement went through it.
[14:17] » I >> Yeah.
[14:18] » Yeah.
[14:21] I think it's >> Well, no, the other easement was on the
[14:23] other side of it. It doesn't matter. It's not on that side of it.
[14:26] » It's not on that side. >> No, it actually included the roadway
[14:30] right in here. That's where the old easement line went through.
[14:35] So, right in there. >> Okay.
[14:39] » So, basically, that's all on pri- That whole end is on private property.
[14:45] So, again, we can have them add that line as part of the the findings of fact
[14:49] and that would be acceptable as a change. It'd just take them a
[14:54] a week or so to probably have that line added as part of the deal, but it would
[14:58] not change their ownership line. It'd just be an easement line.
[15:04] » Does there have to be >> Huh?
[15:06] » Does there have to be a turnaround there?
[15:08] » Uh, recommended, yes. >> Just asking.
[15:12] » That's technically small, which is probably why it's all on private
[15:15] property. That's why it is small.
[15:21] Well, with the replat, there's not infrastructure improvements. So,
[15:26] » [sighs] >> and I don't
[15:29] have permission from the city of Fort Wayne to improve either.
[15:32] » Yeah. >> So, if that's something you guys want to
[15:35] consider, we can add that as a contingency on the finding of fact and
[15:39] basically when they have that done, I'll review it
[15:41] and we can finalize the sign off if that's what you like.
[15:43] » That sounds fair. >> It's up to you guys.
[15:47] I would recommend >> [snorts]
[15:49] » a motion to do that and then
[15:53] » So, you're saying have a motion for um approving the replat with the
[15:57] contingency of getting easements for around the roundabout.
[16:01] » Yep. >> On the their property section.
[16:07] » In village, you don't have to do nothing, but on your folks' part is
[16:12] another regrow.
[16:16] Is that a big issue to do that or >> I'm assuming it'll cost them money. I
[16:21] don't know.
[16:24] » What's the worst case if we don't do it? It's just It's just there.
[16:27] » If we never go back in and we wanted to improve the roadway, we'd have to
[16:30] request at that point we'd go in and say, "If
[16:33] you like for us to do it, we're going to have to gain garner easements." So, we
[16:36] can do it easily now or we can do it as part of the contingency of the replat or
[16:41] we can go back in later if we choose to do it and garner easements. It's up to
[16:46] you. >> Well, like we talked the other day, that
[16:47] road needs just a little bit of uh
[16:51] TLC right now, so What's the odds of us doing that though?
[16:57] Especially with funds the way they are. We got a lot more roads than than that
[17:00] little turn around. >> we got to worry about right now.
[17:02] » I know. It's >> For the seven cars that drive it.
[17:05] » Yeah, the seven cars. >> It's in the future, but what I'm saying
[17:08] is you know, it's going to need some
[17:11] uh work down the road here. >> So, I would just suggest that you make a
[17:16] that the motion is if that's the way you're going to go then I would make a
[17:19] motion that states that they add a redraw.
[17:24] » So moved. >> Can't do that.
[17:29] » At this point I think I'll make a motion
[17:33] » He made a So you have a motion >> Did you put that as a motion?
[17:37] » Yeah, but I >> Yeah. Okay, and as a redraw
[17:41] » Yeah. >> Yep, to add that easement to dead end.
[17:43] » They're added and go ahead and approve the replat or wait?
[17:48] » No, it's always one. So to approve the replat with the redraw.
[17:51] » very good. That's what I didn't know. >> So we're not going to have to meet
[17:53] again. >> That's the goal.
[17:55] » Yeah. >> So is that a second Jerry to his?
[17:58] » Yeah. >> Okay, does that make sense to you Angela
[18:00] that they're going to
[18:02] approve the replat by adding the easement around the turn around on the
[18:05] turn around on their property. >> All in favor?
[18:09] » I. >> I abstain. I I wasn't following the
[18:14] » Did you ask to discuss >> No.
[18:17] Over my head.
[18:22] » All right.
[18:28] Now we need to do the last one. >> So do the secondary, right? Okay, I just
[18:31] want to make sure I'm going the right >> Yep.
[18:33] » Okay, so now that the first is cleared then we will go ahead to entertain a
[18:37] motion to review the secondary plat. Um now that the waivers have been
[18:41] approved so we do not have to go through all of this again.
[18:43] » So moved. >> Great.
[18:47] » Second it.
[18:50] » All in favor? >> I. I abstain.
[18:56] » Old business. >> So Zoneco received uh approval from the
[19:00] town council at the last town council meeting. We are finalizing the contracts
[19:05] right now. I would expect to meet with them in person or meet with them via
[19:08] Zoom probably in the uh next week or two, uh, depending on
[19:14] their schedule and our office schedule. Um, they are eager eager to get going.
[19:19] Um, they they reached out today and we shot
[19:22] a couple emails back and forth. They're excited to help us out and hopefully
[19:26] uh, clear up some of the confusion like we have with replats and all that other
[19:30] stuff. So, um, as soon as we get them the finalized
[19:33] contract, which has been signed, it just hasn't been sent over yet, then we will
[19:37] be good to go. So, I'm excited to get it moving. It's
[19:41] looking like an 8-month timeline from start to finish.
[19:46] So, and I have the full timeline laid out if you guys would like to see it
[19:49] after the meeting, I can pull it.
[19:54] So, that's all I have on that. Any questions for me?
[19:59] » Does anybody have any other business?
[20:03] Our next meeting is October 13th, 2026 and if there is