[0:33] Thank you.

[0:42] There they've been there for like 20 years and he've been admin on all kinds of shins.

[0:47] It's not good.

[0:48] Okay guys, if y'all say this is something that's gone for me.

[0:53] Thank you very much.

[1:04] Thank you.

[1:09] Thank you.

[1:11] Thank you.

[2:13] in the morning.

[2:16] Is it four times?

[2:18] It's a part time.

[2:19] It's a part time.

[2:21] I did.

[2:22] It's contact for us.

[2:24] So I'll be my own boss.

[2:25] I won't have to be working for this.

[2:26] I won't take it down.

[2:28] I can't anybody can come in.

[2:31] My main job.

[2:32] There you go.

[2:33] But I'm in front of my own tax.

[2:36] It's sort of a little bit over.

[2:37] Every time you make sure you put it in.

[2:41] It's 25% of it.

[2:45] It's not with the school, but it's with a company working with special education and to where we're going to what ever just has a concept with us, whatever, if they need someone to do our meetings for that day, then we're going to do our meetings for that day.

[3:01] I do the teachers so you can feel like

[3:04] that will avoid or I wanna go.

[3:07] And it's seven to three.

[3:10] So I have my evening, in the right.

[3:14] What do you think?

[3:16] What's going on?

[3:22] No, we're all.

[3:24] Yeah.

[3:25] I don't know what's all this.

[3:27] That was a good one.

[3:36] I think I'm going to be doing it with you.

[3:39] It's getting to be the first time I've ever heard of it.

[3:43] I've never heard of it.

[3:47] I haven't been able to do it.

[3:50] You know, you don't have to do it.

[3:51] Now, I'm going to do it wherever you go.

[3:53] I'm going to do it.

[3:57] I'm going to do it.

[4:00] No, I think

[4:06] that's enough to be seen.

[4:09] No, I think that's enough.

[4:09] You can be seen.

[4:11] I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[4:13] So I didn't know Robin's.

[4:15] How are you?

[4:16] So are we in?

[4:18] It's not.

[4:19] So, you can say it.

[4:20] Testing testing.

[4:21] We need a copy of it.

[4:23] We need a copy of it.

[4:24] We need a copy of it.

[4:24] When we're out here.

[4:31] This one can be this one.

[4:33] It's a new one.

[4:34] It's a new one.

[4:35] It's a new one.

[4:36] It's a new one.

[5:24] Good

[5:28] evening and welcome to the City of Leon Valley City Council regular meeting.

[5:33] We're so glad so many of you could join us this evening.

[5:36] Today's Tuesday, July 21st, 2026, and it's approximately 6 p.m.

[5:42] And I have asked Councillor Betty Hild,

[5:44] please lead us in the pledge if you'll please stand.

[5:47] Thank you.

[6:08] Just in the side, we do have a quorum.

[6:11] We'll get to you in just a minute.

[6:14] Okay, yes, I'll call you up.

[6:16] All council members are present.

[6:17] We do have a quorum.

[6:18] I forgot to say that.

[6:21] As many of you can see, we have new upgrades in our chambers, thanks to the paid funds.

[6:28] So thank you, Dr. Colderra and Crystal Miranda and all the other team that has worked on this so hard.

[6:34] But please be patient. We're still in the middle of, we haven't finished.

[6:38] So if there's some glitches, just bear with us. Okay, so thank you so much.

[6:43] All right, number two, citizens to be heard, and this is your opportunity, ma'am, to please come and

[6:50] state your name and where you generally reside, and you have up to three minutes to speak.

[6:55] Thank you, Mayor.

[6:56] Your bad name is Olivia Spinoz and I live in Leon Valley.

[7:00] So good evening to everybody and thank you for listening to me for just about three minutes.

[7:05] I will be really quick.

[7:06] However, it is very important for me as a citizen and the citizens of Leon Valley to

[7:11] briefly mention how disappointing it was that our city was not able to allocate resources for

[7:17] a proper fourth of July celebration. It was our America's 250th birth celebration, which is why

[7:25] I took a look at the city's budget to figure out what's going on here.

[7:30] Why couldn't we have a proper 4th of July celebration?

[7:33] Excuse me. I found that quite a bit of the city budget does go to crime services, which is good,

[7:40] of course, we want to save city. However, one very concerning item in the budget that I could not

[7:46] help to notice is the allocation of $50,000 for the invasive flood cameras now placed in our city,

[7:54] which is only about two miles along, excuse me, and a mile and a half wide, and we have a

[8:00] approximately less than 13,000 people living here in Leon Valley. I don't believe the residents

[8:05] of Leon Valley know exactly what these cameras are doing. I certainly was not aware of their

[8:13] intrusiveness nature that actually violates the fine lines of appointment rights. There are many

[8:20] controversy surrounding the use and misuse of these cameras is they do in essence

[8:24] pinpoint every place time and location our personal vehicles are in we drive our vehicles

[8:30] 99.9% of the time also the sharing of this information without citizens knowledge or oversight

[8:39] as I understand it there is no real policy or accountability so if a citizen wants to know

[8:46] if they have been flocked and for what reason, and by whom,

[8:52] they're not going to get that information.

[8:54] Okay, where exactly are these flood cameras located?

[8:58] We have, we have a right to know, and we should know,

[9:01] because criminals, well, they're going to commit crimes

[9:03] regardless of what's in place to a very crime activity.

[9:09] Austin, Texas, has canceled its flood contract

[9:13] to name a few cities, Austin, Texas.

[9:16] because of its abusive nature and violating citizens' rights.

[9:20] So I'd like to ask City Council to please cancel or consider not approving any additional resources

[9:27] for flood cameras in our city of Leon Valley, Texas.

[9:31] Instead, allocate these money to better serve the citizens of Leon Valley,

[9:36] like have any proper fourth of July celebration,

[9:38] or maybe even hiring additional police officers.

[9:42] I think I have a little bit of time. Okay, so last note,

[9:44] I'm not sure on the agenda for animal control, but it must be strengthened to protect citizens

[9:51] from being malt.

[9:53] We nearly were one evening on an evening walk and also to send a courtesy reminder for

[9:57] pet owners to please be responsible for each of your dogs and clean up after them.

[10:02] Thank you so much, God bless you guys.

[10:04] Thank you for the time that you've given me.

[10:05] Thank you.

[10:06] Ms. Espino, I would appreciate those comments.

[10:09] Anyone else like to address the council at this time, please come forward and state your name.

[10:14] And yes,

[10:17] and where you generally reside.

[10:19] Hello, hello, how are you, Miss Alonzo,

[10:21] could you see you?

[10:22] If they stamp behind me, they're going to...

[10:24] You sure can.

[10:25] You sure can.

[10:26] Are they all, y'all, all done something spectacular together, right?

[10:31] There you go.

[10:33] Practicing our civic student.

[10:35] OK, hello.

[10:36] My name is Michelle Alonzo.

[10:37] I live here in Leon Valley for 10 years now.

[10:43] And

[10:47] my name is Jade and Metcalf.

[10:48] I am currently living in the on valley. I have been here 20 years my entire life and I have come to address the current situation of our 4th July celebration during our country's

[10:59] 225th anniversary. So I am on many others was thoroughly disappointed in the lack of fireworks and limited

[11:07] acknowledgement of our country's anniversary and the sacrifices that contributed to the ability of our anniversary. Now I have grown up my whole life

[11:14] like I said in Leon Valley.

[11:15] And I've solidified long lasting memories with my friends,

[11:19] celebrating and wonder at the many fireworks shows

[11:21] that I fear younger and up and coming generations

[11:24] will not get to have of this continues.

[11:27] If budget allotment is an issue,

[11:28] I propose a few possible solutions.

[11:30] If we choose to stagger the celebration

[11:32] to only the years ending an over five,

[11:34] we can offset the celebration to about every five years,

[11:37] allowing for more time to budget

[11:38] and for this event in show,

[11:40] we can also see an admission feed

[11:42] for outsiders venturing around San Antonio or a celebration and offered discounted rates for the

[11:47] residents using a wristband system to identify residents versus non-residents would also be

[11:51] beneficial in order to distinguish the two types. And as you can imagine, this issue was so

[11:56] impacting to the residents that we on Valley, that not only I, but our other younger generations

[12:01] over here have decided to give you some of their perspectives and insights as well. Thank you so much,

[12:12] and this might sound a little silly, so feel free to laugh. But imagine your great grandma

[12:17] raised you your whole life, right? And then you had this like big plan for her 250th birthday

[12:24] and then you found out it was canceled. Would you feel pretty sad, right? Because she like raised

[12:30] your whole life. So my point is we had nothing to do really during the fourth of July and so

[12:40] late at night we tried driving around San Antonio to see if we can find some like fireworks

[12:46] but the fireworks that we saw were very far away so it didn't really feel like the 4th of July.

[12:53] Okay thank you. I'm Gabby McCaff. So we all saw and thought on the 4th of July how we could

[12:59] reform this for our future generations. We thought we could have some of the non-citizens pay

[13:07] and the citizens pay less or something and there would be no outside food or drink so

[13:14] that we could all make a profit for it. Okay, thank you. Hi, my name is hopeful on so we

[13:22] weren't so my siblings are really really good at running I'm not, but they like running right

[13:27] and the ice cream really early in the morning number one not a lot of parents are gonna let

[13:32] kids have ice cream out like nine to 12. And some people who are running, who are

[13:41] running their race, may or may not have been able to make it because of it was

[13:48] farther away and if you're running a race, you don't want to go like drive somewhere

[13:52] except your house to rest. Okay, thank you.

[14:00] My name is Aquinas Alonzo and I

[14:07] kind of

[14:07] grow a poem about the fourth of July and it's silly so you can laugh if you want. I walked

[14:22] around that faithful day in all I found was great so I say why don't make it a great great

[14:29] day. Yeah thank you.

[14:36] You had a really good impression but you checked out okay. Again Michelle

[14:40] on sale. So the memory of a dark sky with only smoke from other cities, celebrations,

[14:47] filling the night sky of a, of Leon Valley will always be in my children's minds.

[14:52] Next time someone comes up here and accuses you Council of wasting money on something like this.

[14:58] I want you to think of the,

[15:00] Disappointment and disheartening of these young people here. It takes much more than a balance checkbook to make a great city. I hope we can remember that this year.

[15:12] As we vote down to tear monuments like the silos, break up neighborhoods like Seneca 2 and cancel the fireworks for the 250th anniversary of our country. Thank you.

[15:23] Thank you very much. Do appreciate this comments. All right. Anyone else like to address the council? Please come forward.

[15:31] Good evening, Robin. Welcome. We're so glad you're here. And our condolences to you and

[15:37] your family on the loss of Bill.

[15:39] Thank you. Robin Johnson or so, can I feel too?

[15:47] Most of you know Bill passed in June.

[15:50] What you may not be aware of is years ago, he loaned a gavel from when he was president

[16:00] of the Neighborhood Association in Omaha to the mayor.

[16:05] He was in sense.

[16:06] She was using a little bit of a teeny thing with his passing.

[16:12] There is a behest in the family, so I have requested the gavel back.

[16:18] In replacement,

[16:22] we, the family would like to present this Leon Valley City Council with a custom made

[16:31] Gabel and sound block. It is made with Texas Live Oak and it is in Lade with Turquoise.

[16:41] There will be a band placed on this at some point.

[16:46] We weren't sure exactly when we were going to get this that basically says it's presented

[16:52] to the Leon Valley City Council in memory of Williamville, Johnson, my husband loved this

[17:03] city.

[17:04] Thank you so much for having to appreciate it.

[17:17] And I will give the old bag, this is the beautiful gavles that Bill had lent us for the last five or six years with the city manager tomorrow, Robin, so you can pick it up.

[17:41] Do you want to?

[17:43] I do address the council.

[17:45] All right.

[17:47] No.

[17:48] Yes, I'm sorry.

[17:50] So I'm hearing the mic kind of go in and out.

[17:53] Our mic systems are set up like a funnel.

[17:56] And so if you talk and you move your head because you're kind of automated, I'm that way as well.

[17:59] It's not going to pick you up, so you have to talk, you can sit back and talk, but you have to talk straight into the interest of the way.

[18:07] Because if you're turning and talking this way to your colleagues, it's not going to pick it up.

[18:11] It's hard because I've got to look both ways.

[18:16] Well, they need to contribute as well.

[18:20] Okay, but I'll do better.

[18:22] We'll all do better, right?

[18:23] With this newfangled new system.

[18:28] Okay, we move then to presentations, three point one,

[18:33] presentation and discussion of the monthly financial report,

[18:37] and the June 30th, 2026.

[18:39] We have Carol Garene, our finance director.

[18:42] Here this evening, to present good evening and welcome.

[18:45] Good evening, Mayor and council.

[18:49] Thank you.

[18:52] I'm going to present the adjourn financials.

[18:54] start with a general fund, your overall

[19:02] revenue, we are at 74% within the target percentage of 75.

[19:08] Your sales tax and franchise taxes are lower, and this is just due to timing. We're still

[19:13] receiving, we're still pending to receive four more months for the sales tax and to let

[19:19] quarters for the for the frances taxes. I do one point out on your interest income is lower than on

[19:30] the fiscal year 2025 and this is due to decline on your interest rates on the city's interest rate

[19:36] we in June 2025 the interest rate was at 4.3 and in June 2026 it's at 3.6. Overall your expenditures

[19:49] are at 56.7% this is lower than the 75% and this is just the timing of the invoices and

[20:00] expenditures so many expenditures are due to be incurred later on the year than rather than

[20:06] the beginning of the year.

[20:12] This is just your misliners revenue breakdown for your general fund.

[20:16] We did receive the $10,000 grant for the library and this is from the general fund foundation.

[20:23] Moving on to your water fund. Overall, your revenue is within the 75% target. You'll see the

[20:30] interest income also lower here and this is going to be across the board where the interest rate

[20:37] decline in June 2026. Your misliners revenue, I'm just going to go to the next slide so I

[20:44] can show it to you first. We receive the very county grant. This is tied to your elder

[20:49] the waterline project.

[20:54] Going over your expenditures,

[20:56] we are at 68.5%,

[20:58] still within the 75% range.

[21:04] Moving on with your community center fund,

[21:07] overall your revenues at 62.2%,

[21:10] which is within the 75%,

[21:12] your hotel motel taxes,

[21:15] they're at 54%,

[21:17] but this is just because we're received those quarterly.

[21:20] Again, the interest rate income, you'll see it lower than fiscal year 25, is because of the decline of the interest rate.

[21:29] Your expenditures are at 67.3% within the 75% target percentage.

[21:38] Moving on to economic development fund, the sales tax revenue were so pending to receive for more months.

[21:46] The income is still on the same the general fund and the water fund where they interest rate the client

[21:53] On your total expenditures, we are 34.5% but there was a four month period that we didn't have economic development director

[22:03] So those funds were not spent

[22:08] Moving on to your impound lot

[22:12] The impound lot is doing performance really well

[22:16] You'll see your impact log fees at 109% compared to last year, which we received 80%.

[22:25] Overall, your revenues are at 89.6%, higher than the 75%.

[22:30] Your expenditures are slightly higher than the 75% target percentage, but this is just due to the timing of the contractual services that we have received before.

[22:43] And lastly, we have the red light camera fund. Your total revenues are higher than your 75% target.

[22:51] We'll see the red light camera finds higher than last year in fiscal year 2012.

[22:57] We have 64.4% compared to this fiscal year at 82.8.

[23:04] And your expenditures and your red light camera, you're still within your total percentage of 75.

[23:10] It's slightly higher with 77%.

[23:13] But again, this is just due to the timing of some of the expenditures.

[23:16] And your traffic safety, we are 58% way below, but again, we're still trying to complete the fiscal year.

[23:25] So we might receive some of these expenditures later on in the year.

[23:32] Yes, Councillor.

[23:34] I'm sorry.

[23:35] I'm sorry.

[23:36] Thank you.

[23:37] I completely reviewed this and I've submitted my questions to you in advance.

[23:41] Yes.

[23:42] So I appreciate all the time and effort that you use to answer all the questions.

[23:47] My overall question is this, does it look like we're going to use all of our budget for

[23:55] the remainder of the year? I know there's a timing difference because we've got invoices

[23:59] and we've got some other services still pending. But does it look like there's going to be a large surplus?

[24:08] So when we're preparing the budget, we have to go and look at the estimate, right? To make sure

[24:14] where are we tracking or are we not tracking?

[24:17] So we and the Dr. Caldera, we all get together

[24:20] with each individual director

[24:21] and they have to go over their budget

[24:24] and where are they on their expenditures.

[24:27] So you will see on when Dr. Caldera presents the budget

[24:30] on the estimated, all of them are going to get to 100% target.

[24:37] The only one that might not get to 100% target

[24:40] is going to be your capital outlet projects.

[24:42] because some of them are going to go over to the next fiscal year.

[24:48] So, going back to, I'm going to go and drill in to the economic development.

[24:54] You know, I understand that there, we didn't have a director for four months.

[24:59] That would only be responsible for the personnel line item.

[25:04] But there's other supplies and contractuals that way below that.

[25:08] Is that still due to not having the director?

[25:11] So, well, on the supplies, if there's nobody needing any type of supplies and like the

[25:19] director, then we won't spend anything from that fund.

[25:23] The director has to authorize, to spend those that budget.

[25:29] On your contractual, you will also have your project funding grant.

[25:35] So if that's not happening, then we wouldn't spend that money, that's what you'll see it.

[25:40] So is that going to be part of the carryover?

[25:43] Some of them just, I saw, I saw the managers, yeah, I did, I just wanted to end respect,

[25:49] to let Ms. Netompost finish before the city manager responds.

[25:53] Absolutely, and I'm just keeping my hand up.

[25:55] OK, you know, I don't know, we, so I don't know if it's appropriate for me to raise

[25:58] and you nod, so I know that you saw my hand or to keep my hand, I don't want to,

[26:02] well, that's pressure anyway.

[26:03] No, OK, I'll always recognize you, you know that.

[26:07] So I just want to clarify something.

[26:09] And so in each of the line items like we have bunker gear that we're going to gear up to purchase and we've went out to bid and there's seven we're trying to make sure that we were able to purchase that hasn't been purchased yet we do plan to purchase that at the end of the year but there are things that will come up that we didn't purchase for the remaining of the year there's things that happen like in the police the good example is like the police department the forensic testing is a good example if I don't have the crime if I don't have rape kids or forensic testing needed for that year absolutely.

[26:39] We're not going to just spend the money to spend the money, that amount will either go back

[26:43] into your reserve fund or it will get allocated because we had to purchase something else.

[26:50] And we always bring those to you typically in September.

[26:53] So for those of you that don't, or new to our budget process, normally in August, what will happen

[26:59] is I will sit down with the directors and go over whatever is remaining for the end of the

[27:02] year.

[27:03] And one or two things will happen.

[27:04] We will either do a role over budget adjustment, which you all will see in September.

[27:08] budget adjustments if needed. So if we had a good example of that is the fire department

[27:14] BADORS. We have to have the BADORS open and closed. That's an expense. And so they had to

[27:20] be fixed. So we've eaten that in our budget. The air ducts in the fire department needed to

[27:24] be cleaned. We had to do that. That was completed. But if we didn't spend everything in the fire

[27:31] department, there's no need for the budget adjustment. We will eat those costs, but we will

[27:36] notify the council of that in September when we're discussing the roll over amount or budget adjustments.

[27:42] But normally I won't know if all of the expenditures are going to happen or occur until next month.

[27:50] Like we sit down and say what's going to happen, what needs to roll over, does any of this need to,

[27:55] is this going to hit the reserve fund balance?

[27:57] So that's normally the thought process.

[28:00] So that way you understand how the process goes.

[28:04] Okay, thank you.

[28:05] You're welcome.

[28:06] You're welcome.

[28:06] Follow up.

[28:08] Thank you.

[28:08] This Gary do appreciate it.

[28:16] Okay.

[28:17] Moving then to agenda three point two.

[28:19] Presentation, discussion and workshop on an ordinance related to the fiscal year

[28:23] 2026, 2027 proposed budget.

[28:28] The council met on.

[28:32] I believe it was July the 14th and we met four hours and about three hours was on the budget.

[28:39] And we didn't quite finish it.

[28:41] And so we were bringing it back on today's agenda.

[28:45] And I think, Citame Andrew, we decided to start

[28:48] where we left off.

[28:50] I don't know if she's hearing me, but I'm wondering.

[28:53] That's my understanding.

[28:54] Isn't that Charles's understanding?

[28:56] Yeah, OK.

[28:58] And I believe we finished the general fund budget,

[29:02] but now we're ready to go to the enterprise fund.

[29:04] That is correct.

[29:05] But I am going to hit on two things

[29:07] in regards to the general fund because what the residents will see as part of this packet

[29:12] actually probably three things because I have a feeling the alonsos that are sitting back

[29:17] here I can address kind of something in regards to that. Can you put up the budget on big screen

[29:22] place?

[29:26] So the thing, the big thing that has changed in this budget in comparison to the one that

[29:31] I gave last time is your deficit is down by, so I'm going to go quickly, $454,000. There's a

[29:40] a couple of things that have happened since the last time we met, which was just last Tuesday.

[29:44] I received the certified tax roll, which showed that your exemptions have increased dramatically

[29:49] over them what we anticipated them to be, so you're hitting about a 424,000, let me get to the summary.

[30:02] And for those of you that aren't that weren't here on Tuesday, you can kind of go back and review those other slides, but you'll see a $424,000 ad valorem difference from last year to this year.

[30:16] And just to clarify, if you're taking a look at your certified tax roll, the property valuations or the market value did go up, but what increased drastically were your exemptions.

[30:27] And the big thing that hit your exemptions was which is a good portion of the decrease roughly about 143,000 is the new exemptions passed by House full 9.

[30:39] And essentially what House full 9 was gave certain business types a maximum amount in order to exempt about a maximum of $125,000.

[30:48] I sent that to y'all earlier this afternoon to kind of go over those differences.

[30:54] But so I getting blank looks across over here.

[30:57] All you need to know is your Avalorium tax due to exemptions is decreases.

[31:02] So that's a simplest way to put it.

[31:04] So you're going to, if you want to know the formulas and all of that,

[31:07] I did include that when I sent it over earlier this afternoon.

[31:12] But for the basic for layman's terms, your Avalorium tax is going to go down

[31:17] because the amount that you're allowed to exempt off of your property tax has gone up and the availability for some people to be able to have exemptions has increased due to house full line.

[31:29] So that's just what it boils down to.

[31:33] With that being said, I did move a police officer over into your economic development fund.

[31:39] So now, in your ED fund, you do not have a project funding line item, but that help offset your deficit to 454,000.

[31:50] If you move that police officer back, that deficit will then go back up to 554, roughly, 554,000.

[31:58] And so that's the big kind of change.

[32:01] And it's illustrated.

[32:02] If you go through this PowerPoint, we did put a cheat sheet chart under restructuring funds.

[32:07] it is. We put it in there, so you would be able to follow later. I do want to address the

[32:15] fourth of July. We do in our special events budget have 15,000 for a small fourth of July for

[32:20] next year. If you, the comment that was made earlier by the Alonsoz was to do it every five years

[32:26] or every year ending in zero, so every five years. You could do that event and do it safely out

[32:33] your general fund or out of your reserve fund.

[32:36] So you could operate in that capacity,

[32:38] because it's not a year in operating that you could comfortably

[32:41] take that from your ED fund line item.

[32:46] So just if that's a policy decision that y'all want to make,

[32:50] you could certainly do a larger event,

[32:52] hit your capital fund reserve if you're gonna do it every five years.

[32:56] So just something for you to know.

[32:58] But in next year's budget,

[32:59] you have 15,000 dedicated towards a small fourth of July event.

[33:05] Okay, yes. Councillor Comppos.

[33:09] Dr. Calderick, can you state just in general terms what it was running the city for the fourth of July event?

[33:17] Sure. Sure, it was, I'm trying, I'm sure I get there quickly. So it was roughly $180,000 to host the event.

[33:26] That's two pennies in your tax amount, and so when we talk quality of life, we do invest a lot in quality of life.

[33:33] We invest in our parks, our trails, our library, all of our library programs, all of that is considered quality of life.

[33:40] We have, in the past, done wristbands, we have done tickets for the event.

[33:45] We haven't necessarily charged, we did a wristband for rides.

[33:50] At one point, all of these options have been looked at in the past.

[33:55] If we charge for the event, we would have to engage the entire park in order to control ingress and egress.

[34:06] Into the park in order to charge, because we're open area park. That also does two other things.

[34:14] It will increase the number of troll officers you have at the event because we have to warn everybody coming in

[34:19] because once you get the park you become a fishbowl for from a security perspective. So if somebody

[34:24] is going to shoot you're shooting and there's no way for people to run because you've dated the

[34:27] entire park. So people have to be wanted prior to coming into the park. So we don't allow outside

[34:34] bags if it have to be clear back only and then we don't allow outside food drinks and then chairs

[34:41] can't be in that there's just certain parameters that go along with that. All of those things absolutely

[34:45] can be done. We have done that in the past. The previous council was not interested in getting

[34:50] the park. They wanted it to be like wood lawn. They wanted it to be open to the public and for

[34:54] everybody to come in. But definitely charging, I've said it from the very beginning if we charge

[34:59] one dollar to interview that would offset the budget probably by 20 to 30 thousand dollars if you just

[35:05] charge one dollar at the gate. So those are all recommendations that have been made in the past.

[35:10] They haven't been really looked at further. But if that's something the council wants to look at in

[35:15] future, I think it's something you can definitely do. That increased feed to come into the park

[35:22] would offset, because it cost a lot of money to gate the entire park. I'm going to probably

[35:26] offset that, at least that portion, because it won't be 180,000. That amount would go up substantially

[35:31] because I would need more gate to fence the entire park and a little bit more overtime for the police.

[35:38] But I do think that you could do that from your reserve fund.

[35:44] So if it was 200,000 to put off, then we got sponsorships and that was able to decrease 250,000

[35:52] with our sponsorship dollar amounts.

[35:54] You could certainly eat that in your reserve fund because it's not an ongoing operating expense.

[35:59] When you have an event that's held year after year, it should be supported by your operating revenue.

[36:05] If you continue to hit your reserve, especially in your ED fund, you would only be able to hold

[36:10] that event for three years before you ran out of economic development funds.

[36:15] So, go back to the question.

[36:18] I just wanted to add, and thank you for those suggestions I've written them down.

[36:22] We do have a coffee this coming Saturday, July 25th at the conference center from 9 to 11.

[36:29] And we have heard from a number of citizens and a lot of people were disappointed about the

[36:36] fourth of July.

[36:36] Y'all aren't the only ones, and again, it was a budgetary decision.

[36:42] It was not a political decision.

[36:44] It's not because we're not patriotic, and it's not because we don't take pride in our government.

[36:48] We do.

[36:50] We've got a former military person in Mr. Roscoe.

[36:54] My father was in the military for 25 years, so I was raised.

[36:58] And so it was just again a budgetary, we were $1.3 million last year in the whole, okay,

[37:07] not 400, so we had to really do some cutting and that came off the chopping board.

[37:12] But come Saturday, we recognized this a while back during our retreat and we said,

[37:18] let's have a formed where people can come and speak to the council after the hometown

[37:25] 4th of July which we had this past 4th of July and then we can talk about the big.

[37:30] And then we can see what we can do. So we're open. But again, let's, you know, we might have to raise your taxes. That's what the majority of the, you know, I just, we just don't know yet. But please come. Nine o'clock this coming Saturday at the conference center. So I just wanted to put that plug in. It was during my announcements, but I thought some of you might leave. And so I wanted to let you all know. Okay? Yes. Go ahead, Mr. Trump.

[37:54] And I do want to recognize that there was some good suggestion.

[37:57] Yes, exactly. I wrote them down.

[37:59] This suggestion. So please, it was worthwhile.

[38:01] You've been here. And I thank you for being here. Please, if you're interested in your

[38:06] able to please come Saturday to share and maybe we can, other people can share other thoughts

[38:11] and we can come up to a great conclusion. So thank you.

[38:15] Yeah, all right. Okay. So with what? Yes, I wanted to make that point.

[38:19] Because my PowerPoint's 175 slides. I'm not going to hit on every one of those

[38:24] as the Mayor mentioned, we're going to move on to the Interimals Fund.

[38:28] So if anybody has any questions in what I sent you in regard to the general fund,

[38:33] please let me know. Okay. Yeah, I haven't had a chance to really review it because it came

[38:38] in late this afternoon, but I will get back with you on that. I don't know about the rest of you,

[38:42] but I mean, there's not a whole lot. I mean, you're not looking at major changes from what I presented,

[38:47] but there were some changes. Okay, so moving on to Interimals Fund. So you're operating revenues

[38:53] is sitting about 5.5. And for those of you that don't know what enterprise fun is for my youngsters

[38:58] out there, it's your water fund, it's your water sewer and storm water fund, live in a separate kind

[39:04] of governmental fund called the enterprise fund. Your operating expenses are sitting at about 4.7.

[39:12] We transfer out for debt about 140, 140,000, I'm sorry. And we transfer out 1.3 for personal services

[39:19] and we're looking at spending 1.9 in capital.

[39:23] The question always comes up,

[39:25] what are we doing with our end pack fees?

[39:27] The text local government code kind

[39:29] of illustrates our permitted uses and prohibited uses.

[39:35] This just outlines your permitted uses

[39:37] and then your prohibited uses on what we can use in pack fees for.

[39:42] Your enterprise fund is broken down.

[39:44] Excuse me, Mr. Compass has a question.

[39:48] I think for the sake of the audience, you know, why do we have impact piece?

[39:54] What is it really about?

[39:56] I understand, you know, I like to tell you, it's a great illustration, but what you can use

[39:59] it for.

[40:00] Why do you have them?

[40:02] So impact fees are really set by new development, so when you have new developers come in, they

[40:06] pay impact fees in order to set up their water system.

[40:09] Those impact fees typically are only used to purchase water rights or large water infrastructure

[40:16] capital projects and so the laws very specific on what we can use those funds for but they

[40:21] aren't residential they're not coming from the residents of Leon Valley there are from new

[40:26] development coming in from and normally those are new developers. So your Seneca, your Sena,

[40:30] your trilogy, all of those new developments pay in tech fees. Your enterprise fund and operating revenues

[40:38] broken down in your sewer cells, your water cells, your tapping connections, your customer penalties

[40:43] and your stormwater fees.

[40:46] Your expenses are broken down in a capital contractual personnel

[40:52] and transfers out.

[40:56] Your stormwater, and it's kind of broken down in your expenses

[40:58] for your stormwater water and sewer.

[41:00] And one of the big reasons we used to group them all together,

[41:03] but the big component is really to try to keep your stormwater

[41:06] by itself because your stormwater can only be used for certain things.

[41:10] This is kind of a general summary of your entire

[41:14] water fee and so in Mr. Compost's email earlier today he had questions about how we kind of

[41:21] assign your in-pack fees and so your in-pack fees live in a liability account but he's not

[41:27] necessarily I mean he's not wrong. We always kind of put together in your capital somewhere somewhere

[41:34] in here. In your capital outlay 140,000 for water rights and so we pay for the water rights with

[41:42] your impact fees. So what we did was we're illustrating see this 140,000 here. We put it in here

[41:50] as a revenue source and you'll see it taken out as an expenditure. So just clear. But your

[41:55] impact fees normally live in your liability account. So you're not used to seeing it here.

[42:00] We just pay for those water rights from your liability account. But now we have it illustrated.

[42:04] just clear.

[42:08] Your total operating revenue is sitting at 5.5. The other big change I made.

[42:15] Oh, it's going to be on the upcoming side. So if you take a look at your water and sewer combined,

[42:19] just your water and sewer, your ending fund balance is sitting at 1.7. Your storm water is sitting

[42:25] at a negative and the big reason it is is because I haven't made a decision or not mean,

[42:29] but the council hasn't made a decision on whether or not to budget for the erosion project. So

[42:34] We all decided to do the eight you can't you wouldn't be able to do the 800,000 for the erosion project because it would fit you in the negative so you could allocate maybe

[42:42] You know

[42:43] 300,000 to kind of keep you out of the negative from your stormwater

[42:48] But we do have to make a decision this evening so I know what to do with that amount because you can't continue to sit negative

[42:54] So I need a dollar amount or a no amount so we can move forward with

[43:00] With what you want to do with that?

[43:03] So if you take a look at your, just your water on your water side, you will see your water personnel, your supplies and your contractual services, here is the water rights that 140,000.

[43:18] So if you go back and look at the budget from the last time, you'll see that it's the water right impact is coming from your water supply fund balance, right? So the footnote is there now.

[43:30] Mr. Compass.

[43:32] So, you know, we've had other discussions, it may have been outside of the budget, but we

[43:40] talked about the Texas Water Development grants that we're going to submit for to have

[43:48] projects.

[43:49] I think valued roughly about 21 million in terms of grant funds from TWDB, and I would

[43:58] to suggest for my council's colleagues consideration that instead of

[44:03] doing allocating to 500,000 to capital, for water, and sewer that we

[44:10] reduced that to maybe 150,000 and just wait a little bit to see what

[44:16] response we get from TWDB as to whether they accept our projects. Now I'm not sure

[44:23] because I didn't ask this question in advance, is there any way that we can

[44:28] and then that money to the storm water to cure this deficit.

[44:35] So you can't lend money to storm water,

[44:37] but you can pay for, if you wanna do the eight,

[44:39] like say you wanna do 200,000 from your storm water,

[44:42] you can take the remaining balance from,

[44:47] and I wouldn't take it from your water and sewer,

[44:49] but you can take it from your reserve fund.

[44:52] I mean, you can take it from another fund.

[44:54] Water and sewer capital outlayer reserve items is set for your water.

[45:00] Order and sewer projects. And shouldn't be used for erosion or flood control projects. Your stormwater can be, and that's one of the reasons we keep it separate.

[45:10] But you can take a look at using either if your general fund reserve for that amount, for the other portion, so we can split it 50, 50, if that's something you would like to do.

[45:23] The other big thing is is is that we allocated $800,000.

[45:28] I don't know if you're going to spend all you $100,000,

[45:31] and the big reason is, I sent you all the city engineer

[45:35] dropwall kind of option.

[45:38] Once you all pick an option, I don't think the plans are going to be $800,000.

[45:44] So I put in $800,000 because that was the original kind of conversation

[45:49] the council had last year when we were talking about the project. But depending on what option

[45:54] you pick, the project may be upwards of a million dollars. And you don't have that, but the idea was to

[46:00] get the option so I could either grow out for grant funds or look at other stakeholders that

[46:06] could possibly help us offset the cost for the project itself. But to pick a plan, I don't know if it's

[46:13] going to be 800,000 or how much more the engineering is going to cost for said plan because I don't

[46:19] what option you're picking.

[46:21] So I don't know if you want to reduce it to like 300,000.

[46:25] And then if the engineering for the option comes in higher,

[46:30] then you would take the remaining from one of the other

[46:33] reserve accounts, whether it's your ED reserve fund,

[46:35] whether it's your general fund reserve,

[46:41] or trying to think if there's another fund.

[46:43] But I wouldn't take it from your water or sewer fund.

[46:46] Okay.

[46:47] Did you share me?

[46:49] I would recommend, again, lowering the 500,000 for capital for sewer and water down to

[46:55] 150.

[46:56] Just in case we have some type of emergency needs that repairs for water or sewer.

[47:03] But I'd like, just this is just my opinion, I'd like to get off center with this erosion

[47:10] problem and start if we leave it at 800 and we don't use it. It'll roll over, right?

[47:18] And so let's let's fund from the capital reserve from the general fund to make up the difference.

[47:26] Okay. My recommendation, I think we just, I think there may be members of the council here

[47:33] that not we're not part of the original discussion and we need to present it to them and then let's

[47:39] make a decision once and for all. I know my colleague, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

[47:43] counselor or Russell, he voice that, you know, you know, we need to do something.

[47:49] We've, we've already spent a number of dollars, but we need to make a decision.

[47:53] I think in this coming fiscal year, we're a quarter of a million dollars.

[47:57] Well, yes, I'd like us to revisit all those options so that we can, you know, ask

[48:03] questions and then make an educated decision. But, uh, and I'll not be rushed tonight. I don't think.

[48:08] It's not rush tonight to pick a plan, you can't sit negative in your stormwater account.

[48:13] So, right, so you need to cure that.

[48:14] I just need to know what the percentage is to cure it.

[48:17] Do you want to go to the absolute zero and just move the 83,000 in offset that in your

[48:22] general fund reserve and keep the cost of those options at 800,000?

[48:27] Do you want to reduce that to 300,000?

[48:29] And then if we hit that amount, if we hit more than that than I would come back for budget adjustment,

[48:35] But you can't stay at a negative 83,000 sitting there.

[48:39] So that's what I need to cure this evening's the number, correct.

[48:42] The second thing is, is I need consensus for the 150,000.

[48:45] So I heard from Mr. Compo said to reduce the capital outlay for both water and sewer,

[48:50] to, I'm, each account right, Mr. Compo's to 150,000.

[48:54] So it is everybody in agreement with that.

[48:56] So I can make that change.

[48:57] So the other, the, the, the balance will go back to the reserve.

[49:03] Or, you know what I'm saying. In other words, we have 500,000. So if we reduce it to 150, then it's just going to

[49:10] with back to our reserve just in case there's an emergency. That would just be right for the water and sewer for the water and sewer.

[49:17] So the different, we budget typically a half a million dollars and with water main replacements and sewer main replacements.

[49:23] And that's normally either done because we have a project or plans geared up.

[49:28] the only project I have is about 88,000 for engineering service to start doing the engineering

[49:34] for phase two of the water project. So that's one of the ones that are sitting there.

[49:39] But we do have our system as old. We do have main breaks and the guys do work on their

[49:43] shoe reliance.

[49:46] So we do use those funds for offset. Those kinds of repairs throughout the year.

[49:53] But you can reduce them and if we have a large break, then we would come to you for a budget adjustment.

[50:00] But just to know on the record, if we have a main break on Bander Road, it is not a question for the council.

[50:06] I would just, we would just make the repair and then come to council later.

[50:12] But it would be a large break, significant water loss.

[50:15] But that's why Melinda was sitting around a half a million dollars on both for those types of things that would occur.

[50:21] because they do occur. We've had some, it'll be in the reserve,

[50:26] and you could eat it. I mean, okay, we'll just adjust it.

[50:29] But you can, uh, and also that's, I guess I heard in your comment

[50:34] because we're hopeful that we're going to get some grant money.

[50:37] Right. Right. And how much do we have outstanding

[50:39] that may come in as a grant money? Do we know that? Well, we don't know for 21 million.

[50:45] Right. Well, we up to 21 to 21 million last meetings. So, yes,

[50:48] So you're last meeting and gave us the authority to apply for the right. I don't know we'll get a nickel from that.

[50:55] Yeah. But essentially what we normally do, if you take a look at your budget, you have 500,000 sitting here for improvements.

[51:02] And so we try to use those funds for improvements.

[51:05] But if you drop it down to 150,000, that would allow me to go for the plans, which is 88,000 ago for the plans for priority one on the water side.

[51:12] because that's the next kind of I would like to have those plans in order to submit them as an

[51:17] addendum to our grant to show that we have plans available for that to help us get more points

[51:22] in the allocation of the grant. But this this is where we're sitting. So I think I'm here

[51:28] it's seen head nod, y'all are okay with 150,000 but for both the water and the sewer even as a

[51:33] sewer is not part of the grant for any water. So I just want to clarify that yes Councillor Marshal.

[51:39] I'm okay with reducing it to 150.

[51:42] Okay, and Councillor Roscoh.

[51:44] Put 150?

[51:45] Yes.

[51:46] From 250.

[51:48] From 500,000.

[51:49] From 500,000 to 100,000.

[51:49] Yes, ma'am.

[51:50] I don't know what that.

[51:50] Okay, great.

[51:51] All right.

[51:52] Yes, not.

[51:53] Councillor Roscoh.

[51:54] Okay, very good.

[51:55] See, so then that means there's going to be no, like even small water and sewer projects for

[51:59] next year, as far as the geared towards projects.

[52:03] Oh, great.

[52:04] Well, I mean, again.

[52:05] Well, I mean, it comes up.

[52:06] Yeah, we have it in the reserve fund if we need it.

[52:10] correct but we're not going what I'm saying is is I'm not coming back to you with

[52:14] priority two and saying hey here you go unless we have an emergency. I just want to

[52:18] make that clear so when you get residents that call and say hey when the next one

[52:21] I'm ready for my project or that's going to be my responses. We're only doing the

[52:27] for priority 2 is the next phase.

[52:30] We don't have a project geared up for next year.

[52:34] Just plans for private arts. Water, water, only, water, only.

[52:40] And the only thing else that I can think of that can change is that if our staff is very talented

[52:47] and have written for grants and we've received a number of them.

[52:53] And so it would change if we received the grant during that fiscal year, but we would at least have some money to go against.

[53:04] So like if we applied for a seat, let's say a new CDBG round came up and I could be paid for the typically on a CDBG grant.

[53:10] We paid for the engineering costs for that.

[53:14] And the plans for a set project if a grant were to come available.

[53:17] Yes, I would come back for budget adjustment and then also for you to authorize me to go for set grants.

[53:23] and that would come from your reserve funds. I don't see that impacting us going for grants or

[53:27] future CDBG funds or any of that, we would come back for budget adjustment. I would not miss an

[53:33] opportunity for grant because I don't have the money in the budget, but if we were to get a grant,

[53:37] we would definitely go to Councillor Rosca. Dr. Caldera on those grants that we get, we used to,

[53:42] I mean, we have to put some money in ourselves as well, don't we? Yeah, so for CDBG for the CDBG funds,

[53:48] yes, we have to pay for the engineering costs, correct? Okay, and we... It's some other grant funds you

[53:51] you have to pay a percentage for the Texas development

[53:53] at Waterboard Grant, there's no match, right?

[53:55] All right, okay.

[53:57] That's nice.

[53:57] Thank you.

[53:58] That's 100%.

[53:59] That's why we're optimistic.

[54:00] We're going to get some money.

[54:01] I'm hoping that we do.

[54:03] I wish.

[54:04] Yes, sir.

[54:05] Go ahead, Mr. Compass.

[54:06] And by going through a budget adjustment,

[54:09] it shouldn't be a neck on any staff member

[54:12] in the city manager because I just want to remind

[54:16] my colleagues here.

[54:18] This is one of the questions I had.

[54:20] When we first adopted the water and sewer budget last year,

[54:24] we didn't expect to do some of the projects we did.

[54:28] And we did one, two, three, four, five, six, seven projects.

[54:33] That's, we had a very healthy fund balance.

[54:37] But we made budget adjustments because we had some opportunities to do some of these projects.

[54:43] And she named them in the questions that the responses I got back.

[54:48] the Alberti water line project with the purchase of water rights, replacement of water

[54:54] mains, amy way, replacement of sewer mains, cynical west drainage, and there was one

[55:01] forest oak sewer main, I think, is the name of it cut off of my sheet here.

[55:06] But so having to come back, I mean, don't, I don't think that's going to be held

[55:12] against anybody.

[55:13] Yeah, so budget adjustments typically the way we don't like to do budget adjustments and one of the big reasons from like the management perspective of why we don't do budget adjustments

[55:22] It looks like you didn't budget appropriately right like when you come back for budget adjustments it looks but in this particular case because it's your enterprise fund and you're not having

[55:30] As healthy of a balance as you have before and we're waiting to see the results of the Texas development and what as a lot of cities are there's a lot of cities going for this grant

[55:39] And so, in this particular case, that's where we're geared up.

[55:44] Now, my plan is in the future, and I've had this conversation a couple of times with y'all,

[55:48] including the retreat.

[55:49] I would like to break down once the council votes on the plan, which over the next three months,

[55:54] David's going to bring back to y'all.

[55:56] Then each year, you won't get 500,000 in water means they will be broken down into projects.

[56:03] And then you will have a certain amount set aside for emergency breaks.

[56:06] We're not there yet, we just barely got the plans and the priorities from the engineer and so David's working out to kind of cross them with their street maintenance.

[56:17] And so we're going through a couple of drafts right now to be able to present that to y'all. Once you all vote on that in your net hopefully in your next year's budget those 500,000 will actually be broken down into real projects versus budget adjustment related projects.

[56:33] Okay. Councillor Huyel.

[56:35] Is the 21 million it's not one big grant.

[56:38] It's going to be broken up to different cities.

[56:40] Is that correct?

[56:41] No. We're going for 21 million.

[56:44] The federal government, I forget the dollar amount.

[56:47] It's like $4 billion.

[56:49] A million dollars.

[56:51] But we've had this grant is quite complicated.

[56:55] Because it's a federal grant.

[56:56] There's a lot of criteria and a lot of cities going.

[57:00] I mean, on one call, in order to review how the grant was going to work, there was 400 people on that one call, and they've had multiple calls. So it is a very extensive competitive grant. Our engineers are the ones really kind of putting together the grant application on RB half. And so we're very hopeful. Hopefully we can hit all the criteria for that grant application, but plans are a big part of that. And one of the big reasons I wanted to spend the 88,000 for this priority to is.

[57:29] I could probably submit an Addendum 2 said grant to show that we have that set of plans

[57:33] and try to maximize the number of points we get in that category.

[57:39] I'm going to move on now to your stormwater fund, sorry.

[57:50] We can talk a little bit about the 800,000, just kind of getting your input on, do you want

[57:56] put 400,000 here and 400,000 in your capital, reserve fund kind of what I'm going to kick you off,

[58:03] what are your thoughts on that kind of split?

[58:08] Or do you want to zero out your stormwater fund

[58:11] and then I put 83,000 over into your reserve fund. This is what we have in our stormwater at the

[58:16] 800,000. That's what your budgeted for your erosion project. That's in there, ready to go,

[58:22] if we, right? No. So, well it's in there now, but you'll go negative 83,000 dollars.

[58:28] I understand, but we have it in there at this far's line item, you know.

[58:33] Yes, Mr. Composculine.

[58:34] I don't see the harm of putting the 800,000, and then subsidizing the 23 to 0 it out for the

[58:43] stormwater.

[58:44] I don't see it down side to it.

[58:46] If we don't use it all, it'll be returned to the stormwater reserve.

[58:50] Right.

[58:51] Yeah.

[58:52] So we don't use the 800,000.

[58:54] Well, it's 800,000 in your city, negative 83, right?

[58:58] So, let me go back to that slide.

[59:02] So we're going to just take it from the research.

[59:04] So what I'm saying is, I won't budget, well, I'm trying to figure out the best way to do that.

[59:10] I can budget the 800,000 and take this 83,000 from your reserve fund.

[59:15] So it looks balanced.

[59:16] We can even make it simpler.

[59:18] Why don't we just make the 800, 700?

[59:20] Right, that's what I'm asking.

[59:21] Let's just do that.

[59:22] Right.

[59:22] Interesting.

[59:23] You don't have to do it.

[59:24] Just clean.

[59:25] that's what I'm asking. So I just some people are not some people, but they don't like to see

[59:30] zero in a reserve fund. So if you don't want to see zero, just it's more observational than anything,

[59:36] then you could do 400 or if you don't want to hit your reserve fund recommendation because storm

[59:42] water funds can only be used for certain types of things. And this is one of the things. So I'm

[59:46] agreement that you could zero out this account and we could do 700,000 and just leave it

[59:54] at that and if we need more money then we would come from that from a budget if that's

[59:58] what you all want to do.

[59:59] Is everyone agree about it?

[1:00:00] Okay, and then we won't be in the negative. Okay, very good.

[1:00:06] I just say going into my reserve fund, but I'm okay with that.

[1:00:11] Okay. Moving the numbers.

[1:00:16] All right. It's better. Yep.

[1:00:19] So for the most part, I think you'll be sitting pretty clean for your water and sewer fund. Now that we made that adjustment on your storm water fund.

[1:00:26] I do want to, so I'm going to move past the Enterprise Fund unless you'll have, I'm trying

[1:00:31] to keep this portion of the presentation since it's a council meeting and we have a lot

[1:00:34] items to less than an hour. So, do you guys anybody have any other questions on the Enterprise

[1:00:39] Fund other than the ones that I've addressed? You know, okay, I'm going to move over to the Red

[1:00:43] Light Camera Fund. You're Red Light Camera Fund is showing a budgeted balance. I am, I did

[1:00:49] take up your red light camera fines because the way we're tracking this year.

[1:00:55] So your total revenue for next year's sitting at 2.4.

[1:01:00] Your personnel services is still sitting at 1.9.

[1:01:04] And your ending fund balance is sitting at 502.

[1:01:10] Mr. Compass.

[1:01:11] So I'd just like to give a little history is that the red light camera has been used to fund

[1:01:18] police officers, and it's out of our general fund, so we don't have a deficit.

[1:01:24] That contract's ending in 2037, and we have this year moved two officers out of this

[1:01:31] redlight camera into the general fund and one into the ED, is that?

[1:01:37] No, so I moved both of them into the general fund, and then I moved one police officer into

[1:01:43] your EDCD fund. I mean, you can look at that as me doing that, I guess, but essentially what

[1:01:48] our original did was take your two traffic safety officers that are funded by Red Light

[1:01:53] Camera, put them into general fund. I restructured your percentages over and then I moved

[1:01:58] an additional police officer into your EDCD fund as a community resources officer. So, essentially,

[1:02:06] What I hear is what my point is, is that there's still a million, 99,000 dollars in police officers that are still within this red light camera.

[1:02:19] And, you know, I just want to point this out that we're trying to win herself off of this red light camera before it expires and we need to have a plan.

[1:02:28] So even when it looks like, well, hey, it's simple as taking it out of the reserve, it's more complicated than that, okay?

[1:02:37] I'm just trying to illustrate that. And there's still what six officers still covered.

[1:02:42] So there's six officers still covered at the end of your red light camera, though.

[1:02:45] I think it's really only four because you're administrative hearing officers.

[1:02:50] David's going to have a different argument than he would like to keep those two patrol officers as patrol officers,

[1:02:54] but there's two administrative hearing officers technically can go with the contract, right?

[1:02:58] So then it's really form of you know, but you don't just have officers there. You have a portion of a court salary, my salary, finance director salary portions of those salaries are coming out of the red light camera funds. So it's not just those four officers.

[1:03:10] If you take a look at the end of your slideshow presentation for the budget, you'll see the splits still remaining in your red light camera fund that you're going to have to account for at some point.

[1:03:18] Because even though even if the perspective is to cut police officers, you can't cut your finance director.

[1:03:24] So you're going to have to move her salary over into general fund or that portion of her salary that's being paid out of there over into your general fund.

[1:03:32] Excuse me, can I ask you how much does that total for all of the split salaries?

[1:03:39] In other words, 10% for the court clerk, do we have a total, your salary?

[1:03:47] I mean, it all sold us to a million 99,000.

[1:03:53] Oh, that's what you're okay.

[1:03:55] So just for the person, just for personal, not the person, not the police officers, just

[1:04:00] the person.

[1:04:01] All personnel including police, so any dollar amount, any dollar amount included, including

[1:04:07] police remaining in that budget, it personnel is that amount, but I was trying not to do

[1:04:17] police and just do with the balance of everybody else to see if we can win, win us off that, you know,

[1:04:24] gradually. Well, that's what we're doing. So the reason I touched police first because there

[1:04:30] are $100,000 a hit. Where our splits can be eventually offset into your enterprise fund. And so that's

[1:04:40] solution, not maybe a back to the enterprise one, which we've already taken y'all on.

[1:04:46] But that isn't, when you're looking, so I mean at some point, you're going to have your,

[1:04:51] you're not going to be able to raise your property tax all the way up to 90 cents, right?

[1:04:55] That's a ridiculous conclusion to draw.

[1:04:58] So I'm trying everything I can to help mitigate your property tax rate and not move everybody

[1:05:06] and do your general fund because that will impact your, your, your, your, your ad valorem tax rate, right?

[1:05:11] If you're trying to, a compass all of that, or your, your sales tax, right?

[1:05:15] And it's unrealistic for me to say that we're going to generate in the next five years, an absorbent

[1:05:21] amount of sales tax dollars to offset your general fund.

[1:05:24] That's, that's wishful thinking more than it is a rational thought.

[1:05:28] And so, what I'm trying to do is we move the police first, your administrative staff,

[1:05:34] technically can be split into other funds and you do have some crime control money that could be there and you have a

[1:05:42] little bit of other funds that we can help with that over the next couple of years. I'm just doing it piece by piece.

[1:05:49] So this year we took two. We moved people in the 80 CD fund. We've restructured the general fund as I went through last

[1:05:55] council meeting and this is where you're currently sitting. You're still sitting at $452,000 in the

[1:06:03] with me making those structural moves.

[1:06:06] So again, it's just a matter of what the council is willing to do,

[1:06:11] what cuts you're willing to make.

[1:06:14] Yes, Councillor.

[1:06:15] Compass.

[1:06:16] And so one of the reasons for taking them out of the enterprise fund

[1:06:22] in a prior city manager to me,

[1:06:27] would just balance the budget by just charging the enterprise fund

[1:06:31] for any deficit that I saw in my opinion, okay, but it was unfair because only two-thirds

[1:06:39] of the Leon Valley residents actually use this enterprise fund.

[1:06:44] So everybody that has sauce water and sewer, it was not, it didn't affect us.

[1:06:50] And so it was burdening to me the citizens that had Leon Valley water.

[1:06:56] That's why we moved to make it more equitable to what?

[1:07:00] What was the actual utilization of their time to be reflected within the enterprise one correct?

[1:07:08] And then my phone a friend back here told me for every book all other person else 357

[1:07:15] $357,000 okay excluding the police

[1:07:18] Thank you. That's what I wanted to know thank you 357,000 okay, but then you'd have to be prepared to cut police

[1:07:24] Right, I mean that's the alternate understand. It's 1.9 for everything, but three hundred fifty seven

[1:07:30] No, it's not one point, one point nine includes all of your, all of your expenditures in personnel. Okay, expenditures and personnel. You have, in that one point nine, you have contractual services, you have your capital outlay.

[1:07:45] But all your personnel services in currently in your relic camera is 739

[1:07:51] But then you move over into

[1:08:01] Yeah, I was trying to get there. Sorry. Oh, it's at the very beginning. So if you go to your summary general fun side. Sorry. It's like a hundred slides back

[1:08:11] You will see the total amount for all your personal services that are over there that are pulled into your relic camera. So 357000 plus your

[1:08:19] or 700 and whatever city, no, there's 700, yes, thank you, I'm sorry, I was trying not

[1:08:27] to go all the way back in the savings of time, yeah, there it is, sorry, there you go,

[1:08:38] keeps

[1:08:38] it, yeah, yeah, it means, yes,

[1:08:44] traffic safety, we went over, and we've cleared out the

[1:08:48] personal services from there, we've gone over the detail in your traffic safety and

[1:08:54] your red light cameras? I don't know if you want me to kind of go through what we have over there

[1:08:59] now but essentially sitting in your traffic safety from your contractual services is broken down

[1:09:05] in detail. So it's important to note that even though some of these items you're going to have to

[1:09:15] figure out how to pay for them out of your general fund. So it's not just personal services you're

[1:09:20] right, you pay your city audit out of this account. That 8% percentage that correct. You're

[1:09:28] pay $8,000 of it is going to have to move over to your reserve fund. We pay a portion of

[1:09:34] tech lead in this account. That would have to move over to your general fund. But then you're not

[1:09:39] going to be paying your ATS contract, right? So it's just important to note that any time we develop

[1:09:48] of fun that has revenue sources, we do our best to be creative to make sure that we're not hitting

[1:09:54] your general fund reserve. And over the last 10 years with Red Light cameras has really

[1:09:58] offset the impact into your general fund reserve that you're going to have to encompass between

[1:10:06] now in 2037.

[1:10:11] The big capital item sitting over here in your traffic safety is a patrol vehicle

[1:10:16] And then in your red light camera, do we put a car over there?

[1:10:21] No, just one vehicle.

[1:10:24] Just one.

[1:10:25] Your crime control prevention fund.

[1:10:28] Your revenue sitting at 446,000.

[1:10:31] Your expenditure sitting at 444.

[1:10:33] This is your personnel services sitting at,

[1:10:37] Expendentures sitting at 276,000.

[1:10:40] Your supplies is 11,000.

[1:10:43] Your contractual services, 73,000.

[1:10:45] in your capital outlay sitting at 223,000 are anticipated revenue

[1:10:49] and this fund is sitting at 446,000.

[1:10:53] We do shared personal services of 83,000

[1:10:56] that amount could move over in your general fund

[1:10:58] in order to support a police officer.

[1:11:03] This is the breakdown of your expenditures.

[1:11:05] We go into great detail on how each dollar and penny is spent.

[1:11:11] And we break it down even more.

[1:11:14] Here's the forensic testing that we talked about earlier.

[1:11:16] We try our best to not have to use that fun, but we do have to budget for that fun.

[1:11:23] The big expenses in this fund are dealing with your CAD system, your axon tasers, your

[1:11:28] vehicle and body cam, our radio airtime, are the big contractual service dollar amounts that

[1:11:34] come out of this account.

[1:11:37] We are looking at replacing one detective vehicle.

[1:11:40] There is 50,000 sitting in four-year flood cameras that isn't coming in from your operating

[1:11:44] expense.

[1:11:45] This is also not coming in from your general fund reserve. So when we talk about the flood cameras and whether or not that can support the 4th of July

[1:11:52] The answer to that is no because the 50,000 is coming from your crime control prevention district fund, and then you can't use those funds to pay for 4th of July

[1:12:03] Is that whether renewal of the flood is here?

[1:12:06] We got a grant for the first year of this year. Correct. The council authorized just to sign it to your contract. You're one is paid for grant. You're two. It would come out of your

[1:12:16] You're a crime control crime control, okay, for sure. But yes, maybe. And then your property room plans are sitting at a 100,000 in this account

[1:12:25] Moving on to your do you have any questions on crime control crime control prevention?

[1:12:29] How you can use those funds? Why you can't pay for 4th of July with these funds and any questions are heard to that, okay?

[1:12:35] Moving on to your community center fund your operating revenue sitting at a 100,000 your expenditure is just sitting at a 100,000

[1:12:44] Sorry, what we did here is we moved your rental fees over in your EDCD fund in order to support personnel services.

[1:12:52] The only revenue source coming in for this budget is going to be your hotel motel tax.

[1:12:58] Your personnel services is sitting at 37,000. Again, we move the percentage of Miss Miranda over into your EDCD fund.

[1:13:08] So this will be the remaining amount of her salary.

[1:13:12] Your capital outlay is 160,000 for the restrooms of the conference center.

[1:13:19] I do feel that you have enough this year sitting in your reserve fund to be able to do that.

[1:13:22] You will leave you 183,000 if something goes wrong.

[1:13:26] We do have a couple of weeks at the conference center roof.

[1:13:29] So we may have to look at the near future of replacing that roof at the conference center.

[1:13:37] Your community center expenditure detail. This is like a general summary. We get into very

[1:13:43] Detail including toilet repairs and light fixtures and kitchen appliance repairs, janitorial services and chair cleaning

[1:13:52] miscellaneous window cleaning, those kinds of things depending on the usage. So we budget for chair cleaning

[1:13:57] We budget for very big deep cleaning, but it also depends on your renters. So some years like this year

[1:14:03] we haven't really had a

[1:14:05] a bad renter where we needed to bring people in.

[1:14:09] We've had renters that have destroyed our

[1:14:11] restrooms, broken toilets, feces, kind of situations.

[1:14:15] And I have to bring an outside contractor in to kind of do those

[1:14:18] repair public horses and going to do that.

[1:14:21] Those types of repairs and clean up.

[1:14:24] This year we haven't had that kind of issue.

[1:14:27] So it's up to when we talk about whether or not we're going to

[1:14:30] spend those funds or the cleaning in house was enough this year.

[1:14:33] So far it has been.

[1:14:34] We do need to do some chair cleaning, which we may do before the end of the fiscal year, if not,

[1:14:41] though it will be early at the beginning of next year.

[1:14:47] But so that is your community center fund.

[1:14:49] Again, we have 160 sitting over there for the restrooms. Moving on to any questions on your community

[1:14:55] center fund. That I can see. No.

[1:15:00] And the hotel mototax that we get in revenue as you can see is because the next question will be, will can you use Fourth of July out of those funds?

[1:15:08] Hotel mototax could possibly be used for Fourth of July because it's a tourist type event. You just don't have money.

[1:15:16] And you're coming in. They literally make enough money to cover repairs, maintenance, and the operations, utilities of those buildings. You don't have a healthy reserve from there.

[1:15:25] you normally sit around 300,000, I think is a highest of seen it in the last couple of years.

[1:15:30] And we use that for big repairs on those buildings.

[1:15:33] Your straight maintenance tax fund,

[1:15:39] this account gets zeroed out.

[1:15:40] We are going to tie some projects to Mayor.

[1:15:45] Oh, I'm sorry.

[1:15:46] I was making a note about straight maintenance zero out.

[1:15:49] Just so I don't.

[1:15:51] Yes.

[1:15:51] Councillor.

[1:15:52] Yes.

[1:15:52] the street maintenance, again, this is related to a sales tax funded revenue stream.

[1:16:00] Here's where, you know, we had talked about a consultant for $20,000 to oversee some

[1:16:08] capital projects, and I'm wondering whether or not this would be a fit for that, for an

[1:16:15] outside contractor to monitor our street maintenance program.

[1:16:19] Yes, yes, I was just going to suggest that as a consideration for that that I thought it wasn't for streets

[1:16:27] I thought it was for the water project if we get funding so I had put in 20,000 for project management

[1:16:34] I removed I didn't it's got anything and the original idea that I had for the 20,000 was for Melinda to help with the erosion project

[1:16:41] If the council voted to do the erosion project because David's play is a little fool

[1:16:46] we've got lots of projects.

[1:16:47] The second part to that is if we were to get the Texas

[1:16:49] Development Water Board grant, I would need help.

[1:16:53] I mean, if we're turning out all of those projects,

[1:16:56] but that's a separate kind of issue

[1:16:57] that would handle within those grant funds

[1:16:59] and within that dollar amount.

[1:17:02] But yes, if we're moving and grooving

[1:17:03] through your street maintenance projects,

[1:17:05] we could bring a consultant to help assist

[1:17:09] from a project management perspective here.

[1:17:14] I'm pretty sure you could use the fund

[1:17:16] for that just like a paper engineer for the maintenance portion. So as long as it's dealing with the maintenance,

[1:17:20] the millen overlay portion of it, you could. The big question is going to be what streets we're going to

[1:17:26] do, and I'm trying to cross reference your streets. So we don't have a sewer project kind of like what we

[1:17:31] didn't enforce area and do a patch job. I'm trying to do an overlay of your street project and conjunction

[1:17:37] with your water and sewer projects. And David's got when you see this spreadsheet, it's a really cool

[1:17:42] spreadsheet, it's a project management spreadsheet.

[1:17:45] I've just, it's in draft form, so I haven't provided it to y'all yet.

[1:17:48] But it overlays your street maintenance priorities with your water and sewer priorities.

[1:17:53] And then when you, again, when you vote on that plan, we will section off your street maintenance.

[1:17:59] And it may be that you build this reserve fund as, as we wait on these water projects.

[1:18:05] So you'll have the money to do it if that makes sense.

[1:18:08] but you will see the panel go over all of that with you. And then you as a body will make that decision on how you want to handle that.

[1:18:19] Special revenue funds. I think last time we did this general slide. I've given you all more detail in your special revenue funds

[1:18:26] a request from Mr. Combos. So we'll go off in your Leo's fund. Your Leo's fund can only be used for training of your police.

[1:18:32] We have that pretty much zeroed out.

[1:18:36] We send our police officers training.

[1:18:39] We go through that dollar amount pretty quickly.

[1:18:41] This cannot be used for anything other than what's dictated to us by a Senate Bill 1135.

[1:18:47] And to down here, like eligible expenses of some equipment, some tuition,

[1:18:51] subscription, travel expenses, etc.

[1:18:56] Your next special revenue fund is your court building security fund.

[1:18:59] Again, legislation gives us direction on how we can spend it.

[1:19:02] We can spend it on extra machines, walk through metal detectors, handheld metal detectors, lock chains.

[1:19:08] A lot of these funds are used for like baylift computers in the judge's office, the one thing breaks.

[1:19:22] We have to replace it that's usually with this fund as used for child safety funds can only be used for your school crossing guard.

[1:19:34] We have been vacant, so if anybody's looking at being a school crossing, we're, oh, Miss Alonzo left.

[1:19:39] School crossing guard.

[1:19:41] We're looking for school crossing guard.

[1:19:43] Please apply the job as on our website.

[1:19:46] But this is what this fund is used for.

[1:19:51] That's your detail.

[1:19:52] You're municipal court technology.

[1:19:54] We use this fund for different things.

[1:19:56] Usually broken receipt machines.

[1:20:02] Oops.

[1:20:02] Try and get to local.

[1:20:03] We use it for this year.

[1:20:05] We use it for your signature pads.

[1:20:07] We needed to upgrade your signature pads when you sign for and court and so that's what we use the money for this year.

[1:20:16] Yes, sir.

[1:20:16] I can't say compass.

[1:20:21] Is there any allocation for our encode that's in this court technology?

[1:20:26] Yes, sir.

[1:20:26] So I did put in 8500 as a portion of that their expenditure.

[1:20:31] That's one of the contracts I don't know if it's in here.

[1:20:34] 8500.

[1:20:35] Yes,

[1:20:39] sir.

[1:20:41] your refunding bond and your CFO. That's currently your outstanding debt. This is your debt fund.

[1:20:51] And here are the kind of 2016 CFO and then your geo refunding bond.

[1:21:01] And so that's your expenditure sitting at 685.

[1:21:05] Your police forfeiture, again, this is dictated to us on how we can spend it by the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure Chapter 59.

[1:21:11] We can only use this to pay for equipment for law enforcement, community outreach, officer training, law enforcement objectives.

[1:21:21] We do have personnel services allocated in this account, and we do have some contractual services in capital outlay.

[1:21:27] You do have a nice ending fun balance sitting here at 900,000 as we go over your future capital

[1:21:33] I'll lay you'll see how we're eating up that ending fun balance here is your forfeiture fund expenditure detail

[1:21:41] And then your personnel what's included in this amount is your salary adjustments in your salary scale longevity pay and your longevity paid is done in

[1:21:51] You know, Bember, someone asked on what the cost is for the increase that we have projected it's 132,000 to your general fund for what was that for the increase in your the 2% increase in your market increase that you have allocated for the staff in this budget is 132,000 in your general fund and again just trying to find I don't want to cut any we have to find more cats right.

[1:22:16] What if what would it cost if we went from 2% to 1.5% to 1.5%.

[1:22:21] So I haven't done those calculations for two reasons.

[1:22:25] One, I want to see what the health insurance rate comes in.

[1:22:28] And so that's current.

[1:22:30] Not only the increase budgeted in your budget is sitting at $195,000, which would offset the increase anyway. So if we are able to zero out your health insurance increase that would offset that cost.

[1:22:41] I don't want the staff not to get an increase to take a decrease in their pay based on your health insurance benefits.

[1:22:48] And so what typically happens is the cost for dependent care coverage or the cost goes up and then you don't give an increase.

[1:22:54] So then that means next year their paycheck is lower with their taking home because the cost

[1:22:59] of their benefit has increased when you haven't given a race.

[1:23:02] So my goal is either to wash it out to where they don't see a hit, but it's enough to

[1:23:06] cover their coverage or that they get a little bit more, you know, that's that's the goal.

[1:23:12] But yes, so we have some, I've different scenarios available to you all.

[1:23:16] I'm just not, I haven't made that jump yet, but my goal is is for y'all to, for me, to get

[1:23:22] revenue revenue rate. We've got the certified tax rules to see with the

[1:23:25] no new revenue. I don't know what that's going to come in at. To see what

[1:23:27] that looks like. But also to see what your health insurance because it's a

[1:23:31] big chunk of of the increase sitting in your personnel to see what that

[1:23:35] actually looks like for next year. And if we have if we don't give a 2% we don't

[1:23:38] give a 2% if we have to talk about staff cuts in order to make that deficit

[1:23:43] because we're not comfortable with increasing the property tax and that's also

[1:23:46] another conversation we can have. But before we head down that path because I

[1:23:50] I also like don't want to crush the staff morale either.

[1:23:54] I'd like to make sure I have all the available information before we start openly discussing those kinds of online.

[1:23:58] I'm glad you're thinking of options.

[1:24:00] Yes, ma'am.

[1:24:01] Yes, ma'am.

[1:24:05] I hope we only consider that reducing benefits to the staff raises as a last resort, because affordability right now.

[1:24:20] It's difficult and even with a 2% and the step increase I don't even know that it keeps up with a cost of inflation.

[1:24:30] Again, just a conversation.

[1:24:33] Absolutely.

[1:24:34] It's not like we're not making a decision tonight, but I agree with you.

[1:24:38] I don't.

[1:24:39] That's why I said, hesitantly, I open my mouth for that.

[1:24:42] No, you should, mayor.

[1:24:44] I mean, the money is the responsibility.

[1:24:46] ability, you know, and it is always a conversation, and we've had this conversation.

[1:24:50] At some point, you know, we may have to look at reducing services to some degree, right?

[1:24:54] Like, what does that really look like?

[1:24:56] Do we only cut Banderer Road Quarterly and reduce the park personnel by foreign poise?

[1:25:01] Do you reduce the accreditation at the light?

[1:25:04] We don't longer have an accredited library.

[1:25:05] We're going to reduce the library programming, not the staff, but go back to the old

[1:25:10] school library.

[1:25:10] We checked out books and only have small-type programs.

[1:25:13] We don't do the large programs.

[1:25:14] Well, we're not going to be in a credited library anymore, but the community may be okay with that.

[1:25:18] They may not, you know, want the big, big rig petting zoo in the carnival and all of those things.

[1:25:24] Is it, is it a reduction in service in one of the areas, whether it's public works or library or

[1:25:32] Is some other former fashion, you know, do we not have somebody answer the phone, do you know, do we go to an automated system?

[1:25:39] Do we move more towards AI?

[1:25:41] Do we have robots begin cutting grass?

[1:25:43] Like, what does that really look like in a long-term kind of, but yes, we have all of that.

[1:25:50] We're taking it into consideration.

[1:25:51] I heard the mayor of San Antonio interviewed this week on David Martin Davies and

[1:25:56] there are $159 million in the whole.

[1:25:59] I'll take $400 of it.

[1:26:00] So she said, just to put it in perspective, and I can't remember all of it, but I do remember.

[1:26:05] She said, you have to close all the libraries, take away animal control completely, and

[1:26:11] then do something else, another whole department,

[1:26:15] these three chunks, and you're still 20 million in the whole.

[1:26:19] And I'm like, whoa, I mean, so it's a challenge,

[1:26:22] but go ahead, I just,

[1:26:23] Dr. Cordera, which is my memory,

[1:26:26] we didn't reduce anybody's salary last year,

[1:26:29] do you know, other than a general material,

[1:26:31] the, we didn't, so we didn't reduce anybody's,

[1:26:34] so it's very hard press.

[1:26:35] We normally don't reduce salaries,

[1:26:36] because normally what happens is you have a range,

[1:26:38] a salary range, right?

[1:26:40] And so when you bring in a new person that new person starts to typically that bottom end of your salary scale.

[1:26:47] So as you have turned over throughout the year or as a city continues,

[1:26:52] you'll see your personnel services kind of ebb and flow because we'll have a longevity of 40 year staff right that are at the top end of the scale.

[1:27:00] Well, as they get begin to retire, you'll have new staff that comes in and not hopefully,

[1:27:04] But they normally start off at the bottom edge of the sits of the scale, and so you'll see your personal cost kind of take a little bit of a dip.

[1:27:12] We got a little wonky, and the reason that we're not trending so much that way is because the council went a couple of years without increases.

[1:27:21] The council was Willy behind and pain appropriate market rate for some of the staff, and so we got behind and it was harder for us to hire.

[1:27:29] So we were running vacancies like four or five vacancies. We're not running that right now

[1:27:35] And so as we have to kind of keep up with our counter parts

[1:27:39] But I don't I don't ever suggest us being at the top end of that scale either

[1:27:43] I try to keep us in the middle as much as I can

[1:27:46] We're coming up to part as far as our salaries. Correct, but like say this here

[1:27:51] You're not able to do it say we can't go up in property tax and you can't do the increases

[1:27:56] then you will start seeing because like I'm already seeing where other cities are already above us.

[1:28:02] So if you don't do the increases, you're going to start trailing behind and that's what's happened in the past.

[1:28:07] We've gone years where we don't give the increases we get farther behind.

[1:28:10] And then we have to come and pay the paper at some point and then it's a big hit to your budget when we when we try to make that adjustment.

[1:28:18] So I always recommend some sort of increase to try our best to stay up to par, but maybe it isn't the 2% and the 2% maybe it's 1.5 and 2 maybe it's 1 and a 2 maybe it's a benefit reduction maybe it's a little bit of both maybe it is a staff cutting position and a reduction benefits maybe it's none of those things maybe the council is okay with saying you know what we don't want to touch the staff benefits we'd rather cut x, y and z instead.

[1:28:46] And so, all of those conversations happen.

[1:28:49] They're hard conversations to have because we become very attached with one another.

[1:28:55] We, you know, the staff is very approachable with the council and so it's always a hard

[1:28:59] discussion to have, especially when you know you're impacting somebody's personal life.

[1:29:04] I mean, their job is their personal life when it comes to salary and benefits.

[1:29:08] And so, but I don't like to have that discussion this early on until I have the no new revenue

[1:29:13] rate and health insurance.

[1:29:13] And as soon as we get those numbers, then we will have those just

[1:29:16] we should get the right next week, right?

[1:29:18] They were taking the last week of July.

[1:29:20] They normally do, but last year we got the first week at August.

[1:29:23] I don't want to make any promises.

[1:29:24] I'm hoping we'll get it the last week of July.

[1:29:27] And then I'm hoping to have health insurance rates the last week of July as well.

[1:29:31] So hopefully both will come in and I don't know if we'll have it by the August 4th.

[1:29:35] Depending on when those rates come in, maybe we have a discussion of having just a budget

[1:29:39] meeting the following Tuesdays of the fourth maybe not presenting on the fourth, but holding

[1:29:45] it that I don't know what date that is. But seven days from the 11th, 11th, 11th. Thank you.

[1:29:49] Just a budget kind of like what we did the last time and not put the budget on for the fourth,

[1:29:54] just to give me some time to get those those numbers updated so you can have a more in-depth conversation.

[1:30:00] I'm more waiting to see when those numbers come in and we can have that conversation.

[1:30:04] That's good.

[1:30:06] Here are the salary allocations. I know it's kind of hard to read, but if you go to the red light camera one, you'll see two

[1:30:11] municipal court personnel services are paid out of your red light cameras as well as your senior 20% of your senior court clerk and a court administrator.

[1:30:21] Here is your finance director assistant finance director and your receptionist are paid out 20%

[1:30:28] If you go down to your PD, you have your PD assistant chief and police chief are paid out of there and then these are the remaining officers and detectives paid out of your revenue.

[1:30:42] So it's not just your officers.

[1:30:47] Our Christmas holiday this year, we always present it during the budget.

[1:30:49] We will be closed from December 24th through January 4th.

[1:30:54] and we will turn on

[1:31:00] the fifth and the fourth.

[1:31:01] Monday the fourth.

[1:31:02] We open Monday, yes, we open Monday the fourth.

[1:31:04] I'm sorry.

[1:31:05] I put it on there as bullets.

[1:31:06] I wouldn't forget and I didn't remember.

[1:31:08] So next steps.

[1:31:10] We'll have a budget.

[1:31:10] Our budget public hearing is August 25th with your tax rate hearing on September 8th.

[1:31:15] We will have other subsequent actual budget meeting.

[1:31:17] So we'll have it right on the fourth if we have the numbers.

[1:31:21] If not, we'll move it to.

[1:31:22] We'll ask to see if the Council is available to do it on the 11th.

[1:31:25] I do have your 10-year capital plan. I'm not going to go over all of your 10-year capital

[1:31:30] plan. We've had a lot of discussions on your 10-year capital plan, but I am going to

[1:31:34] briefly kind of, this is your general fund summary. When we talk about having a healthy

[1:31:39] reserve fund, it's because we have future expenses geared up for upcoming years, and so

[1:31:47] if you take a look at your general fund, we break your general fund and buy departments of your

[1:31:54] information technology, these are upcoming years that we're going to have to purchase large ticket items.

[1:31:59] Your police department, these are some big ticket items that will be coming up on the for the upcoming year, as well as your in pound.

[1:32:08] Your, oh my gosh, your fire department, you can see some large expenses over the next 10 years as well.

[1:32:15] Your public works department,

[1:32:19] your capital plan will again come up in around 35 36.

[1:32:25] Your economic development,

[1:32:30] your code enforcement, and your parks as another one that have upcoming expenses throughout the next 10 years, as well as your library.

[1:32:40] And then we move on to your enterprise fund. This is, you'll see some upcoming projects,

[1:32:48] and you'll see the 500,000 in their each year because that's been typical.

[1:32:51] that will change in your future. We reserve fun in this fund as we get projects. Those will be

[1:32:56] reduced to those project specific items. Your crime control. This is the one I kind of wanted

[1:33:03] to touch on because you see the healthy fund balance. But these are some upcoming expenses that

[1:33:07] you will have.

[1:33:11] And then tonight we had an item on the agenda for cops grant. We thought we were going

[1:33:16] to be able to apply for it to help offset the radio cost. And so they gave us a timeline, the description

[1:33:22] of the grant. And so we added it as a last minute add to the agenda for this evening. We got

[1:33:27] more information on who's going to be eligible for the project, which came in like a couple

[1:33:31] of days later. And it's only going to be for the county. The county is only one that's going to be

[1:33:36] eligible to apply. And so they literally very specifically gave who's eligible to apply in

[1:33:44] the spirit county. So we won't be able to apply. So that won't be read tonight. It'll be pulled

[1:33:48] from tonight's agenda.

[1:33:50] But again, that's us just trying to hurry up

[1:33:52] and trying to get as many grant funds

[1:33:53] to offset any future costs.

[1:33:55] And so we jumped the gun because I wanted to make sure

[1:33:57] we were like right on it.

[1:33:58] So we added it to the agenda

[1:33:59] and then the eligibility came out.

[1:34:01] We didn't qualify.

[1:34:03] Your community center fund,

[1:34:05] you'll see some upcoming purchases as well.

[1:34:08] And that's it, guys.

[1:34:09] That was my fast rendition of the budget.

[1:34:12] And, okay, thank you.

[1:34:13] I appreciate it.

[1:34:14] And a half.

[1:34:16] Hey, very good.

[1:34:16] Better than four.

[1:34:17] That's right, we had for the last time.

[1:34:20] I just wanted to be sure if there was any other questions, comments.

[1:34:23] Thank you, Dr. Calderon, all the staff.

[1:34:26] All the staff are work on this budget and we're just going through it and see where we end up landing.

[1:34:34] Again, we have information that we still need in order to make a better decision.

[1:34:39] Anyone else in the chambers that would like to make a comment on the budget?

[1:34:45] All right, if not, then we will go to agenda item number four, which is announcements.

[1:34:51] And

[1:34:54] I had this on, I had no idea that Robin Johnson was going to be here this evening,

[1:34:58] but I did want to thank the Johnson family for their use of the gavel and now they've given

[1:35:03] us a brand new gavel.

[1:35:04] That's just beautiful.

[1:35:05] So thank you so much for that, and his presence will be missed, that's for sure.

[1:35:13] Again, thanks to the, you know, I was thinking, gosh, what's happened here?

[1:35:16] We had the Fourth of July and I liked it, a lot of people came up and said,

[1:35:23] this was a really nice event and it was a home talent event and so I needed to thank the

[1:35:29] Council and the staff and special thanks to Crystal Miranda who was leading the effort and

[1:35:35] you know, public works, please fire volunteers. I mean it was just, I know we didn't have fire

[1:35:41] works, but I thought we had a really good time with Jackson, our re-enactor and all of the

[1:35:47] entertainment that we had from John Jay, LA, for Gluracose, Mass Dance, as a choral society,

[1:35:54] and thanks to all of the businesses who donated items from water to whatever bomb pops,

[1:36:01] I can't read.

[1:36:02] But anyway, but, and I thought that the raffle draw drawings were a hit.

[1:36:06] I really did.

[1:36:07] a lot of people stay just for those hundred dollar gift cards to H.E.P. we couldn't do it

[1:36:12] in a big ten thousand dollar ten thousand person event but you can on a smaller event

[1:36:20] and I just thought it was just it was just neighbor to neighbor it was just it was I thought

[1:36:25] it was very nice so I'm and again we've already gone over it I had a thing about how much it

[1:36:30] for the big event, the 180 to 200, but anyway, we'll talk about it this coming Saturday.

[1:36:41] Something I brought up at the 4th of July, and that is I still am going to try to do this,

[1:36:46] and we have a proclamation on the August 4th agenda, and that is to celebrate the 250th anniversary

[1:36:54] by trying to increase our participation in our elections.

[1:36:57] We only had 6% turnout in May and you know if we could register people and I even you know when as far as saying we could be the highest

[1:37:09] Turn out suburban city in the county. I mean that's a big goal, but anyway

[1:37:14] That's in the back of my mind, but anyway, we'll I'm gonna get registered

[1:37:19] You have to take a test in order to become a registrar

[1:37:22] So, anyway, so that, you know, we could register people for their right to vote.

[1:37:31] Democracy and Action. This coming Thursday at 11 a.m. there's going to be a grant opening for Wolfspar Nexus. It's a PC gaming destination on Leon Valley at 11 o'clock. So if the council can join me, that would be wonderful.

[1:37:50] And, you know, I just, another comment I had, and I mean, I know there's lots of other things

[1:37:55] about it when I haul up the time, but I just said, thank goodness for the rain.

[1:37:59] I mean, it was such a godset.

[1:38:02] Canon Lake is 90%, Medina Lake is maybe half full now, and the offer is up to 650 feet,

[1:38:09] which it hasn't been down there to 6.20 or something like that.

[1:38:14] So anyway, that's all I need to say tonight, but thank you all very much for all of your

[1:38:19] effort, effort, and I'll look forward to working on the budget and other items. Yes, it's a

[1:38:25] grand opening this Thursday. This Thursday, 11 o'clock. Yeah. Right. So I believe that's correct. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm

[1:38:35] looking at our economic development director. Yes, I'm pretty sure I got that right. Yes. Okay. Mr.

[1:38:43] Compose, if you'll continue, please, thank you. So I do want to recognize the staff on the record

[1:38:48] for completing we we had a special meeting on July the 14th and at that

[1:38:57] time we had a consensus to put three three grants from the library on the

[1:39:05] consent agenda where the city's going to receive up to 87 and a half thousand

[1:39:12] dollars and public works brought in another 25 and I just want to recognize them for adding

[1:39:20] 112,500 to our available funds to expand and add programs to the citizens. The second thing,

[1:39:32] we want to recognize the fire department again for doing their third quarter blood drive that was held

[1:39:38] July the third. So always a worthwhile cause. And then just to let everybody know, the library

[1:39:47] has for the remainder of the month, 12 additional programs that they have. So Regina,

[1:39:55] I always try to highlight that every time I speak. So it is important. Can I say 12 programs

[1:40:02] between now and July 31st. Correct. That's like a week and a half. So they're quite busy and

[1:40:10] they've got the golf coming up too. So and then I don't know if my colleagues saw the the city manager

[1:40:17] report that we got late but the number of open records requests that the city secretary process

[1:40:23] incredible and there is a bunch of them and so it takes a lot of time and effort to get those

[1:40:30] to the requesters and then, you know, you can't go without, we talked about the rain.

[1:40:36] Public work staff clearing out, paus, the fire department, the police department, putting

[1:40:41] up barricades, keeping her citizens safe, all that work for the first responders and the

[1:40:46] public work staff, please thank them all for that.

[1:40:50] Thank you.

[1:40:51] And the good news is that we really didn't have any major problems during the rain.

[1:40:56] Every day I passed the manager, any word, any word, you know, I mean, I got here and there that I can't get to my house, but for the most part it was, you know, not going to wood.

[1:41:06] We had pretty good. Yes. Yes. Thank you for them cleaning up the park after the water. That was a lot. I had not seen the water go that high. It was almost to the fence on the other side of the playground. It's been a long time since I've seen wood up against the trees. They did an awesome job cleaning up so quickly.

[1:41:24] Like, yes, you're Councillor of Roscoe.

[1:41:27] Thank you, Mayor.

[1:41:28] Tomorrow the CPAC police advise you group.

[1:41:32] 630 here.

[1:41:33] If you have any questions about your city or even the flood cameras or anything,

[1:41:38] we will be there and to be able to ask questions about anything there.

[1:41:45] Also, congratulations to our little league senior girls from Leon Valley.

[1:41:51] They did win and I'm a realo and they went to Louisiana and they played very well, but I think they came up short and quite sure, but

[1:41:59] I know they lost the first game, but

[1:42:02] Congratulations to them, they did a great job all year long.

[1:42:05] That's great.

[1:42:07] All right, anything else? Yes, Councillor Merch.

[1:42:10] I just wanted to let everyone know that Northside School District did

[1:42:13] Invite Leon Valley to participate in their citizens bond committee.

[1:42:18] And that's, I understand the first time that they've included Leon Valley, and I am going to the meetings in the mayor's place.

[1:42:26] So far, I've only gone to one meeting the next one is in August, but it's a very interesting process.

[1:42:32] Thank you for that. I just was, I couldn't add another meeting. This was like four or five meeting commitments. So thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

[1:42:42] I've got two meetings tomorrow, so you know, okay, anyone else, all right, so then we move

[1:42:48] into the consent, I know, City Manager's report, Dr. Caldera.

[1:42:52] I good evening, Erin Council. Your City Manager's report was emailed to you yesterday in

[1:42:56] the day-to-day, sorry, it was a busy day, but that was sent out, it is outside and online as well.

[1:43:03] I do want to come in Ms. Miranda on the 4th of July because she started that event really late,

[1:43:08] And so she was able to pull off, you know, an event that, you know, would normally take, you know, a few months to get put together. So we really appreciate her service.

[1:43:19] The flooding I did want to comment on that. We didn't have any major issues. The park did flood for park and right away in street closeters. Yes, it's a pain for us. But I'd rather have that nine times out of ten than people's homes flooding and people being displaced.

[1:43:34] and so commend our fire police and public court staff for that as well.

[1:43:40] And then lastly, again, I want to put a shout out to the library because they really have gone after the grants.

[1:43:48] And so when we see that, it's a reflection of Regina and her staff because her staff have to take on her responsibilities.

[1:43:55] They're at the library when she's sitting down doing the grants.

[1:43:57] I've picked up the phone and called Regina and said, here's a grant, we've got two days,

[1:44:00] and she's dropped everything on her days off

[1:44:02] to put together those grant applications.

[1:44:04] And so it's important to note that the staff do go above

[1:44:08] and beyond to make sure they help with offsetting the budget.

[1:44:11] So I just wanted to make that note.

[1:44:12] Thank you. Okay, you're welcome.

[1:44:14] That's wonderful. Yes.

[1:44:14] I'd like to piggyback with that.

[1:44:16] Dr. Cardetta.

[1:44:18] Councillor.

[1:44:18] Every time we go to the TML,

[1:44:21] there's also, there's always some city,

[1:44:24] small city, getting awards for this and that.

[1:44:27] And I know that Leon Valley has done a great job, and it's okay for us to pat ourselves

[1:44:34] in the back, but you know, the public works, the library, your staff is doing to get recognized

[1:44:39] for what they give out.

[1:44:41] How can we engage more into the TML to let them know what's happening in our city?

[1:44:49] So we just have to submit nominations.

[1:44:51] We used to submit nominations all the times for various things, and we've been awarded many

[1:44:55] TML awards over my 20 years, those applications take time.

[1:45:00] I'm an effort to do, and that falls on my director's shoulders, so for them to get a pat on the back to spend an extra hour nominating themselves, they just don't always want to do that.

[1:45:09] But they have been given a directive two meetings ago to look up the nomination forms to see if we can nominate some of our women.

[1:45:17] Great, thank you.

[1:45:20] Okay, thank you.

[1:45:21] We moved into the consent agenda.

[1:45:24] 6.11 through 6.10.

[1:45:27] Any colleague want to move a agenda item for discussion

[1:45:33] and if not, may have a motion and a second to approve.

[1:45:37] Yes, Councillor Comfort.

[1:45:39] After reviewing all the consent agenda items,

[1:45:41] I move that we approve all agenda one through 10 as presented.

[1:45:48] We have a motion by Councilor Kompos and a second by Councilor Hyal to approve consentage and the items one through 6.1 through 6.10 as presented any further discussion

[1:46:00] All those in favor say aye in the opposed the motion desk carry then moving then to regular agenda 7.1 as Dr. Caldera noted this has been removed

[1:46:14] And we will then move to 7.2, let me read it, presentation, discussion, and possible action

[1:46:22] on the first amendment to chapter 380 Economic Development Agreement between the City of

[1:46:29] Leo Belly Texas and 6400 Bandera LP and Zulon Lang and David Weiner and we have our Economic

[1:46:38] development directors there. Well, we'll hear two percent. Good evening. Welcome.

[1:46:43] Thank you. I'd be here. I'm full of mayor. So yes, I'll be presenting on the first amendment to

[1:46:48] that chapter 380 economic development agreement. And so for some background, this was an agreement

[1:46:52] signed in October of 2024 for those who weren't recently on Valley then. But so the question for tonight

[1:47:00] is the city council is being asked to consider a first amendment to the agreement with 64 under

[1:47:05] and their L.P. She-On-Lang and David Weiner.

[1:47:08] It's recommended to approve the amendments as presented.

[1:47:11] There's also the option of denial or other.

[1:47:15] And it's up to the council discretion.

[1:47:19] The purpose of this presentation is to seek approval

[1:47:21] again of the amendment and there's a couple components to this amendment.

[1:47:25] So we were approached in June of this year by the grantee

[1:47:30] due to delays in the project from CPS connections

[1:47:34] and applications that he had with CBS. And so as a part of the agreement it was a requirement

[1:47:41] that they had to complete facade and an interior movement by 2025, December 2025. And at this

[1:47:49] time it was not going to be set in time for duties project delays. And so with that opportunity

[1:47:58] we also wanted to make some clear, clear, cool amendments as well, do based on some errors that we

[1:48:04] found in the agreement, just to provide more clarity on going forward.

[1:48:09] So, again, that was to extend the project, redevelopment, milestone, due to that CPS delay,

[1:48:14] update the payment schedule, and exhibit, exhibit D. This is the three incentives, the sales

[1:48:19] tax, the ad warm rebate, and the fee waivers portion, and then click, correcting for those

[1:48:26] clerical errors, as I mentioned. So, we'll start with the clerical errors. The first is to expand

[1:48:33] the definition in item M of Section 2 for the definition of a maximum reimbursement amount.

[1:48:39] This week there was just a sales tax refund was left off of that and we wanted to further

[1:48:44] define it as describing an exhibit D which I'll show a little bit later so just a small

[1:48:50] change here.

[1:48:53] Additionally, we had item I of Section 6.

[1:48:56] This was to extend, of course, the exterior facade improvements that I mentioned so these

[1:49:02] are supposed to start in 2024 and be completed in December by December 31st of 2025.

[1:49:10] Now with the CPS delays, we've talked to the grantee and he does estimate that these will be completed

[1:49:15] by the end of this year. He's actually received approval from CPS on some drawings as of yesterday.

[1:49:21] So the timeline is looking more promising as we go on and we've also added the additional note

[1:49:27] of subject to the issuance of a final inspection permit with the city of Leon Valley Planning

[1:49:32] zoning department, just so we can have that certainty in that checkbox that all of those project

[1:49:38] requirements and that scope will work at the end of this agreement are going to be completed,

[1:49:43] and so we have a little bit more certainty there. And then as for the exhibit D, this is where

[1:49:50] we have some changes in just the timeline. So you'll see and I'll show it in the next slide,

[1:49:55] basically just a shift, so you'll see an additional year for him to complete that project

[1:50:00] And those sales tax refunds will be given accordingly and I'll mention that here in the next slide.

[1:50:07] So there's no change to fee waivers.

[1:50:09] He does have a remaining balance of about 2300 that he's still looking to continue to,

[1:50:18] to, you know, to use up as he goes throughout this project.

[1:50:21] And then for the sales tax refund portion, that will begin in 2027.

[1:50:26] Then once we have that planning and zoning inspections, we're going to receive.

[1:50:32] And then I'll go ahead and go to the sales tax refund.

[1:50:35] Exhibit that you'll find in the Exhibit D of the agreement.

[1:50:39] So I apologize, it's a little small, but you'll see it's the same schedule of those sales

[1:50:44] tax rebate portions per cent, so this 2 years of 75% and then the 4 years of 50% and then

[1:50:53] final year of 25% however this just shifts us down one more year to that 2023-2024 fiscal

[1:51:01] year timeline. We've added some clear fine language as well just to account for the total

[1:51:07] maximum sales tax refund just to make it more clear and then additionally because of the state

[1:51:14] controllers timeline on when we receive these total sales tax collected from the businesses that

[1:51:20] But our at 6400 Vandera, we've also amended the language as to when we will repay that sales tax refund.

[1:51:29] So we received that report each month, the finance director does.

[1:51:33] And so after that, we'll be paying the grantee on a quarterly basis based on the total sales tax collected with that 45 days sort of quarter end timeline.

[1:51:46] And that's just to give us certain T. So we have all those numbers and can repay that total collection amount.

[1:51:54] And then for the Adelurum Tax refund, there was just again a small clerical mention of the total maximum property tax refund here.

[1:52:02] So no changes to be the schedule.

[1:52:07] And then we also offered the recommendation to make an amendment on the clerical language for maximum sales tax and add a warm tax refunds.

[1:52:16] So this is just to ensure that these funds do not carry forward if the grant is not performed.

[1:52:22] So it's a performance-based grant and we just wanted to ensure that there's no implications and if any of those I'll go back to say.

[1:52:30] So you can see if he does not achieve those $75,000 in sales tax, that's not going to carry over from year to year.

[1:52:38] So that's what this language is accomplishing here, and it's just included again in the in exhibit.

[1:52:45] Staff recommends approval of the amendments.

[1:52:49] The grantee has been really communicative throughout this entire process.

[1:52:52] been a good partner and steward, so he's also available. He could not make it tonight to tonight's

[1:52:58] meeting. He's based out of New York, but he is available for questions and, you know, it was

[1:53:04] always a phone call away as well. So I'm happy to ask many direct questions if you have any for the

[1:53:08] grantee specifically, but if you have any other questions about the amendments, I'm happy to answer

[1:53:13] those as well. There's no fiscal impact to the agreement. Again, this is the same incentive value

[1:53:20] just shifted by the timeline. Thank you so much for a good explanation. You know, it's just very well

[1:53:27] put. So I appreciate that. Yes, just wanted to note for the magnitude that he did want to remote in

[1:53:33] but my system wasn't set up for teams just yet. Okay. And so that's why he's not that would have

[1:53:39] been his option would be to remote in by teams. We're still having some wiring internal wiring issues

[1:53:44] for teams and that's why he was unable to remote. Okay. I just wanted to kind of make note of that

[1:53:49] Thank you for that. Okay. Councillor Marsha. Just for curiosity, if the he was supposed to have met his obligations by December of 2025, why are we waiting till July to redo the agreement?

[1:54:07] That's on me. So when Roca left, I would love to say I keep in track of every single contract the city has, but the list is never ending.

[1:54:15] So, my directive to all the staff is to review all of their contracts, make sure we're hitting all of our requirements.

[1:54:22] They get not in trouble, but in trouble.

[1:54:26] When we miss a deadline, I heard a contract expires or we're paying for something that's not in an agreement, and it comes out later.

[1:54:32] They're the ones held responsible for those unauthorized contract obligations.

[1:54:39] So when Sarah got here, I gave her all the new contracts, told her to review them, give me her input, that was part of one of her first goals, and so she came back to me who saved that she would like to clean up this contract.

[1:54:51] And so we in an effort and Carol tried to help her with those initial because we were having some issues with the sales tax dollars and refunding some of those.

[1:55:00] And so we were trying to work out how we were going to do that within the parameters of the contract and it just made sense to make the amendments to make it clean.

[1:55:07] Okay, yes. Thank you so much. Councilor Hile. You may have mentioned this and I missed it. What is the business?

[1:55:14] So it's a property owner. It's a developer at 6400 Bander, which is the old Jim's property.

[1:55:20] Right across from the ship, please, where Rita's is located, Ripper's coins.

[1:55:24] And he has had some promising developments with liquid, which coming in.

[1:55:29] And so I'm hoping we'll get some more traction once those tenants are available.

[1:55:33] Or like those sweets are available.

[1:55:34] Thank you.

[1:55:35] It's looking good.

[1:55:37] Anybody else?

[1:55:38] Anyone else?

[1:55:40] We are able to vote on this this evening.

[1:55:43] And so what's the pleasure of the council?

[1:55:44] Yes.

[1:55:45] I'd like to make a motion that we accept seven point two as presented in a men this agreement.

[1:55:52] I'd like to second.

[1:55:54] We have a motion by council or compost in a second by council both in to accept seven point two.

[1:55:59] The three eighty economic development agreement with the changes as presented.

[1:56:03] in that agreement. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye? Any opposed,

[1:56:10] the motion does carry. The moving then to 7.3, presentation and discussion on

[1:56:16] amending an ordinance of the city of Lyon Valley, Texas Chapter 2, animal control of

[1:56:22] the code of ordinances, amending definitions, revising regulations, governing prohibited

[1:56:29] It emin animals authorizing certain license to illogical parks, aquariums, and educational

[1:56:35] animal exhibition facilities to possess otherwise prohibited animals, subject to specified

[1:56:43] safety requirements, establishing pet stop requirements, regarding the source of dogs and

[1:56:49] cats offered for sale or adoptions.

[1:56:53] Now this is our first reading so we won't vote on it.

[1:56:55] And this came, I believe, this came from our retreat.

[1:56:59] We talked about it, so this is presented this evening.

[1:57:04] And Dr. Caldera will go into this details.

[1:57:08] So thank you and welcome. Appreciate it.

[1:57:10] I know all the details. I did.

[1:57:13] So getting the mayor in council.

[1:57:15] So this did come from the retreat.

[1:57:17] It was a directive to revisit the animal control ordinance.

[1:57:21] Any time we take a look at an ordinance,

[1:57:23] if I see that there's other revisions that we need to make because sometimes these ordinances

[1:57:27] have been sitting for quite some time. We'll go ahead and make those kind of amended changes

[1:57:31] with that ordinance. And so the big one though, that was discussed is revising the definition

[1:57:37] applicable, sorry, to prohibited animals and regulated facilities. The question always comes up with

[1:57:43] the aquarium and how can the aquarium have venomous animals, how can the aquarium do this?

[1:57:49] And so since we were in this ordinance and in regards to the request from the retreat,

[1:57:54] I decided to go ahead and update that language in regards to who's authorized to hold prohibited

[1:58:01] animals. So a lot of those changes had to do with kind of defining authorizing, you know,

[1:58:06] zoological parks, aquariums, educational animal, exhibition facilities. And then to clarify that

[1:58:12] such exemptions do not authorize private ownership, right? Like I can't go by a rattlesnake and keep

[1:58:18] in my home are breeding facility, right? And so then requiring the big one and the reason that

[1:58:24] this ordinance came to light was the council wanted to start requiring pet shops to offer

[1:58:30] dogs and cats for sale that were only coming from municipal animal shelters, county animal

[1:58:37] shelters, animal control agencies, qualified non-profit animal rescues or other organizations

[1:58:42] to prove by the department. And requiring pet shops to maintain documentation, establishing

[1:58:47] the source of each jogging cat and to make such records available for inspections and so essentially

[1:58:53] basically not allowing commercially breweded animals to be sold from pet shops, right?

[1:58:58] So we're essentially adopting the city of San Antonio's ordinance.

[1:59:03] My question more so is for the city attorney we do have some like pet land and some

[1:59:08] Texas puppy company with this ordinance applied to them as well with they have like a set time

[1:59:12] to only start selling rescue dogs or or not be allowed to. How does that work?

[1:59:19] Well, we don't actually, is this okay? Well, I'm sorry. So we don't actually, that wasn't part of the

[1:59:27] ordinance that I wasn't aware of that. I'm sorry. No, no, it is. But but we don't have the accept those

[1:59:34] exceptions or or notice delay to inform these people in this. So the way it's currently written is

[1:59:41] that it would be immediately effective.

[1:59:44] Okay, so that's the point I wanted to make is,

[1:59:46] so that the council can discuss that option right now.

[1:59:49] So I did not add a time line when I sent you the draft ordinance

[1:59:52] either and as I've been sitting on it for a week or two,

[1:59:55] I was like, oh man, so how is that going to work

[1:59:57] to currently operate a business?

[1:59:58] So that is a discussion for the-

[2:00:00] The council, whether or not you want to give businesses like Petland and Texas Public Company, and I know there's another puppy sore here, some time so we could add that exception into the ordinance to provide them some time.

[2:00:14] And I would recommend that you would do so, especially for businesses like Petland who have had responsible partnerships with the city in the past.

[2:00:25] I mean, we have, we do have a adoption portion that we are allowed to give them our rescue

[2:00:31] dogs, and they do adopt them out for us.

[2:00:35] And so that would be my recommendation.

[2:00:37] I don't know what that looks like a year, six months.

[2:00:40] Well, I definitely feel like I can't be immediate because they don't only think about this,

[2:00:44] so we need to give them some chat, but how long, six months to a year?

[2:00:48] I don't know.

[2:00:49] I don't think any more than a year, but six months, what do y'all think is reasonable?

[2:00:52] but yes, Councillor. I would think it would need to be at least six months because they've

[2:00:58] got to do something with their current inventory. They can't be expected to lose the money that

[2:01:03] they've already invested in these animals. But I agree if we give them too long, then we've

[2:01:10] weakened our ordinance and we won't see the impact of that. Thank you. Yes, Councillor Bolton.

[2:01:17] My concern would be not giving them enough time because the puppy wants that only do the puppy

[2:01:22] That's going to pretty much kick their business away from them.

[2:01:25] That loan will probably still be able to stay open because they sell small animals and birds and fish and other things

[2:01:32] But to two of the puppy places that would be it.

[2:01:37] So a puppy's thinking all fairness.

[2:01:39] If it was my business, I would want some time to figure out what I'm going to do.

[2:01:42] Okay, sounds good. Yes, Council, I know you're animal lover.

[2:01:48] I am. Yes, it's true.

[2:01:50] I'll probably lay the pet stores are going to sue us, is that correct?

[2:01:54] I don't know. I mean, you know, that's a turning question.

[2:01:58] I mean, I have my assumptions,

[2:02:01] but.

[2:02:02] I mean, I can't make a prediction on that.

[2:02:05] You know, I've been involved in other, for other communities,

[2:02:12] things relate to where it impacts a pet store. A lot of the pet stores themselves are

[2:02:18] franchise operators. So unless it means something to corporate, the risk is probably

[2:02:25] pretty low as far as those franchisees doing something themselves.

[2:02:33] If it's just one store,

[2:02:35] I mean, I can't imagine Petland is going to be doing something here,

[2:02:41] but as y'all were discussing this, I kind of looked it up, and the general turnover for dogs and cats is at 12 weeks, the six months delays seems more than adequate to try to accommodate that.

[2:02:58] Okay, thank you. And I agree, six months would be adequate.

[2:03:05] Yes, Councillor Merch.

[2:03:07] Isn't there another new puppy store in the Golds gym center? Yes. Yes.

[2:03:14] That's the third one I couldn't remember. So Texas puppy company.

[2:03:17] Yeah, there's the one up by the back of T as and then there's the one.

[2:03:23] One behind the attorneys office now and then that one. So we've got three of them.

[2:03:28] So there's, there's plus and minuses, right?

[2:03:31] So anytime the city of San Antonio regulate,

[2:03:34] it's a business type.

[2:03:36] Those business types move to smaller communities

[2:03:39] that haven't updated their ordinance.

[2:03:41] We actually looked at this ordinance,

[2:03:43] I think at least seven times.

[2:03:44] I mean, we, a bunch of times.

[2:03:46] And the council didn't want to do.

[2:03:47] It was called a puppy ban ordinance.

[2:03:49] And so the council at the time was not interested

[2:03:52] in regulating commercial cells of animals.

[2:03:55] And a big portion of that is, you know, there's some sales tax associated with that sale.

[2:04:03] And so you are removing some of those dollars from your coffers when you do that.

[2:04:10] And I'm not going to project how much that is going to be.

[2:04:14] But it will impact your sales tax.

[2:04:18] Yes, Councillor Mursch.

[2:04:21] I'm asking because I have no idea, but if the city of San Antonio animal

[2:04:29] divins leave all those kinds of places have these adoption things where they give you the

[2:04:35] dog for $25, are we, are these private businesses going to be able to sell a

[2:04:44] rescue dog for anything more than business will close. These businesses are set up to

[2:04:52] sell specialized breeds and specialized breeds for what I would consider an exorbitant amount

[2:04:58] of money. Some of the breeds go for $10,000.

[2:05:04] If you go in, there's some for $3,000, there's

[2:05:08] seeing them as high as 10,000 for special breeds.

[2:05:13] So those that business model is set up for also lending,

[2:05:20] people take out loans to purchase these jobs.

[2:05:23] And so they use their in-house lender in order for them to purchase these animals.

[2:05:29] Yes, Council Hall.

[2:05:30] Dr. Caldera is correct.

[2:05:32] It's I've seen animals in there for $10,000 and then I've seen some,

[2:05:36] But the thing that really bothers me is there's animals that have been in there for seven

[2:05:41] eight months in a cage and I really have a problem with that and if you wait long enough

[2:05:46] they'll go on sale.

[2:05:48] But also they're very anxious to give you a loan and I don't even want to know what the interest

[2:05:53] rate is.

[2:05:54] And I can't imagine taking out a loan, I could buy a car for what animals call them.

[2:06:01] Okay, so is it generally the consensus is to add a accept the six month instead of immediately as far as not to find the existing businesses?

[2:06:15] Is there anything else we need to add to this ordinance?

[2:06:17] So, but I do want to make a note because when me and you met with the Petland owner, they are pushing some legislation for next legislative session to help stop or come back local governments from

[2:06:30] from making such ordinances.

[2:06:32] So just for future reference that may be coming down the pike

[2:06:35] in the next legislative session,

[2:06:37] based on that meeting we had.

[2:06:39] So in other words, they'll take this, this will be moved

[2:06:41] then if the legislature could be, it could be,

[2:06:45] depending on what the language is in the legislation

[2:06:48] short lived.

[2:06:50] It just more of an FYI than anything else.

[2:06:54] city attorney, did you have something else?

[2:06:55] I was just going to say, I've also seen Bill Z.

[2:06:59] Absolute undernated degrees from that.

[2:07:02] Say, you can't, you can't know longer cell paths.

[2:07:05] Those have an infound traction, either so.

[2:07:09] But Dr. Calder is correct, but that is something

[2:07:13] that could always happen.

[2:07:16] All right, so this is the first read.

[2:07:18] So we will not need to vote on it tonight.

[2:07:20] But is it the consensus of the council to put this

[2:07:23] and the consent agenda for August 4th?

[2:07:27] Yes.

[2:07:28] What, what, sorry, one more thing.

[2:07:29] Do you want...

[2:07:30] Mr. President, I think so.

[2:07:33] It would be only fair to do that.

[2:07:35] It would be only fair to do that.

[2:07:36] Yeah. We're acting in good faith to try that.

[2:07:41] All right. I think so.

[2:07:44] So we're talking, no to find three businesses.

[2:07:47] Four, I think is four.

[2:07:48] I forgot.

[2:07:48] We've got the do one in, at Gold's gym. Okay. So four businesses.

[2:07:52] It's a no to find four businesses.

[2:07:56] It's Texas puppy, junior puppy, petland, and then they said there was another one.

[2:08:06] That's old, Jim.

[2:08:07] So there's one at Golds Jim, one next to mom and pop, Texas puppies down here, and

[2:08:12] Tetland are the ones off the top of my head, I mean, I mean, just, you know, about the fourth one.

[2:08:19] I thought the fourth one was junior pets.

[2:08:21] that junior pad, the one that's by Rita's in the gold gems thing. That's a newest one.

[2:08:29] We will get notification out to them. We will add this to as a second read. If I add this six

[2:08:35] month extension, is it okay for it to go on consent or do y'all want to rehear it?

[2:08:39] I don't think it's going. I mean, I'm afraid that would be asking for trouble if we tell these

[2:08:48] people about it and then don't give them a chance to hear them, I mean, okay. We can always

[2:08:56] pull it out, but that's okay. We can put it on if that's more transparent. I think that's

[2:09:01] the issue. Okay, so to actually put it on the agenda for discussion on August 4th. Okay.

[2:09:08] There are good. So that's a no. All right. We move then to agenda item 7.4. Presentation

[2:09:14] discussion on amending ordinance chapter four business regulations article 4.14 short-term rentals

[2:09:22] to expand prohibition from 200 feet on the same block face to 300 foot radius not claiming homestead

[2:09:31] exemption on a home operating as a short-term rental establishing occupancy standards to maximum

[2:09:38] floor area, allowing per occupant at 200 gross. Not allowing permits to be transferable,

[2:09:46] require that any trash dispersed beyond property boundaries, be collected, removed, and

[2:09:52] disposed of within 24 hours. Again, this is our first read, we won't vote on it tonight. And again,

[2:10:00] this is one of the agenda items that we discussed at the retreat. So, Dr. Caldera, if you'll continue.

[2:10:05] Thank you.

[2:10:06] Good evening Mayor and Council.

[2:10:07] And so yes, this is the item and direction came from the Council at the City Manager Council

[2:10:11] retreat.

[2:10:13] We have outlined in the ordinance, expanding the radius to 300 feet, reduce the trash violation

[2:10:19] time for remediation, add a provision to the application for Homestead Exemption, max number

[2:10:25] of sleep based on the fire code, the permit is non-transferable, and a grandfathered permit

[2:10:31] is pulled, it is abandoned, and then they would have

[2:10:34] to reapply for a set permit.

[2:10:37] There's no fiscal impact.

[2:10:38] I know that there's been discussion

[2:10:39] from the city attorney in regards to the homestead exemption

[2:10:43] and so kind of your thoughts on that kind of provision.

[2:10:48] And I just stand by for questions.

[2:10:50] Okay, did you want to address the homestead exemption provision

[2:10:55] or just, I mean, well, I was gonna say,

[2:10:58] how do we regulate that?

[2:11:03] question. How do we know that somebody's taking a short-term rental as a home to the exemption?

[2:11:10] So my question is this. If your short-term rental is 100% a short-term rental, not somebody just

[2:11:22] living there and renting a room or part of their home, or temporarily renting their home,

[2:11:32] That's the abuse that I'd like to address, but if it's difficult to monitor for the staff

[2:11:38] and it's not really through legal advice, not something that we should pursue, you know,

[2:11:46] I'm fine with not pursuing that, but because I see in my neighborhood, the short-term

[2:11:57] Reynolds are a hundred percent short-term Reynolds and I have a gentleman that's down the street

[2:12:04] from me. He lives in Austin and he says, well, I consider this my second home. It's kind

[2:12:09] of like, well, wait a minute, how do you have two homestead exemptions? That's what my concern

[2:12:16] And as our revenues going down, we need to minimize these exemptions as much as possible

[2:12:28] when they're not truly due those exemptions.

[2:12:34] Yes.

[2:12:34] Councillor Merch.

[2:12:35] And then Councillor Roscoh.

[2:12:36] Well, I thought the wording that I saw at the attorneys request was a pretty good way

[2:12:43] go in terms of, you know, they identify whether they're claiming a home set exemption when they

[2:12:50] apply for the permit and that if it comes to our attention, then we can do something about it.

[2:12:56] We can then ask them to, you know, explain or whatever. I mean, it's nothing is going to be 100%.

[2:13:03] But I think, if we, I mean, we can't regulate it, but we can, if, if it comes to our attention,

[2:13:12] if we find out through other means or whatever, then it can be called for review or some,

[2:13:17] well, we don't review exemptions.

[2:13:19] Well, no, I, I know that, but I just want to make that clear.

[2:13:21] They're permanent is called for review.

[2:13:24] Oh, yeah, I mean, yeah, I just want to make that very clear.

[2:13:27] Nobody reports that somebody doesn't have, I'm not doing research.

[2:13:29] I'm not looking that up.

[2:13:30] I'm not digging into somebody's personal life

[2:13:33] and trying to determine whether or not

[2:13:34] they have the correct exemption or not.

[2:13:36] The best I'll do is we can call the county,

[2:13:40] the prison, and I gave you all the number

[2:13:42] if you all want to report people.

[2:13:44] I'm not in the position or will I put my staff

[2:13:47] in a position to question somebody's exemption.

[2:13:49] That just opens up a can of worms.

[2:13:51] In this world, let's go with you.

[2:13:52] I'm sorry.

[2:13:53] I don't have any jurisdiction on the homestead exemption.

[2:13:59] There was my concern for being bees were coming in and to begin with the one that lived

[2:14:05] by Mr. Stevens house, they wanted to do the fence and we found out that they were getting

[2:14:11] homestead, exemption, not only that, but at two other houses that he was really living in.

[2:14:18] Yeah, he was claiming housing, you know, and we didn't have any jurisdiction that we can do nothing

[2:14:22] about it. But I can see, I mean, they've kind of hit my nerve. You know, he's getting

[2:14:29] away with all this. But I think at the time, we really didn't have any jurisdiction to,

[2:14:37] because we can bring it up to the county tax office and see what they want to do about

[2:14:43] it. But we really, we were, we have to try to be behind our back on this.

[2:14:50] But I guess that's what I think.

[2:14:52] I'm not a lawyer.

[2:14:53] No, I was going to ask you.

[2:14:54] The attorneys that better just have it in there as the prison.

[2:15:00] To have it as currently written?

[2:15:02] To have it in the amended ordinance.

[2:15:07] Because you never know if.

[2:15:10] I mean, whether it's better or not, I mean, is a policy decision that I'm going to leave,

[2:15:15] do y'all to decide, however, what I will still use this.

[2:15:19] With respect to whether a property is properly exempted with the homestead,

[2:15:25] as has been said, is not our determination.

[2:15:27] That's something within the the purview of the prairie district. I agree with Dr. Caldera, the city staff should not be in a position of seeking to try to change that.

[2:15:39] Whether you, whether that's a condition of it of your ordinance of registration process is is really just a policy decision that you're all going to have to make.

[2:15:52] Yeah, I've advised y'all before as to where your parameters are kind of.

[2:15:57] This would be something that is completely outside of something that's been challenged before.

[2:16:03] So I can give, you know, I can't give you, I can't handicap that one for you.

[2:16:09] That makes sense as to whether that, whether that would be in bounds or out of bounds.

[2:16:15] So it's just a matter of, as a policy matter, you know where, you know what the legal constraints are with respect to, if a homestay exemption can be claimed,

[2:16:27] is that, is that going to be a metric by which you determine whether to file a, or allow somebody under your permitting scheme that you all have adopted.

[2:16:41] I can guarantee all that that would be held to be permissible or impromissible based on

[2:16:47] based on the current state of the case law.

[2:16:50] But it has been challenged.

[2:16:52] Not that I'm aware.

[2:16:53] You're not.

[2:16:53] It has not been challenged.

[2:16:55] All right.

[2:16:55] Just to clarify.

[2:16:57] Thank you.

[2:16:58] Did you get that?

[2:16:59] Yes.

[2:16:59] Councilor Hile.

[2:17:00] What are the chances of the county even doing anything about it?

[2:17:03] They're so busy.

[2:17:04] They're so short.

[2:17:05] I'm not going to make presumption.

[2:17:07] No.

[2:17:07] Yeah, I would assume they won't even care if we know to find that. I don't know the compost has six houses

[2:17:14] And he's doing home set exemption on everyone. We probably say okay. I don't know and I'm not going to presume to know what the county

[2:17:22] Or that it's not really the county. The praise of district will do

[2:17:25] You know, so if for me it's more of putting my staff in a precarious position

[2:17:29] You know challenging somebody's exemption is more of my concern to try to enforce an ordinance

[2:17:35] You know, I'd be like me going to Mr. Roskell saying, I don't think you deserve the VA exemption.

[2:17:41] I mean, who am I to challenge his exemption, right?

[2:17:44] So that's more of the position I feel like you're putting the staff in kind of one of those situations.

[2:17:51] But I think if you have knowledge of somebody defrauding,

[2:17:55] I think if you feel the need to have justice in that realm, report them to their original district,

[2:18:01] you have the ability to do so.

[2:18:04] I would just say this, that as presently constituted the language, basically, well,

[2:18:12] expressly says that a short criminal registration holder shall not claim a homestead exemption.

[2:18:18] It doesn't provide any, it doesn't provide any definition of it.

[2:18:23] It's just a straight out, it's a straight out prohibition.

[2:18:27] Now, understand where Mr. Comples is coming from if someone is leasing it all year long

[2:18:33] or renting it out all year long versus the occasional provider.

[2:18:38] This doesn't distinguish between those two situations.

[2:18:42] This is a, if you do it on your homestead and you go on vacation and you want to have someone

[2:18:47] else come in during rodeo week, then you can't have a homestead exemption.

[2:18:54] I think there's a real problem, I will say that there's a real problem in not making at least making a distinction between someone that is occasionally renting versus someone that is renting for a long period of time.

[2:19:12] And then for me, then it becomes overly complicated, right?

[2:19:15] What is occasionally?

[2:19:16] What are we looking at?

[2:19:17] How many times is considered, you know what I mean?

[2:19:19] And then you put definitions, and then my staff is supposed to say,

[2:19:21] prove to me that you were on vacating, like, you know,

[2:19:24] I don't can't enforce that.

[2:19:26] I don't know when you're at the rodeo or occasionally doing something.

[2:19:29] That's the position that I have issue with the ordinance is when it's in an

[2:19:33] ordinance, you're asking my staff to enforce said ordinance.

[2:19:37] And so I just don't want to put them in a position to try to make a

[2:19:41] and just to piggyback on that.

[2:19:44] It's not only asking them to enforce it,

[2:19:47] but also we need, remember,

[2:19:49] beyond the reasonable doubt, proof that this is occurring.

[2:19:53] And that's just, and that's where the difficulty is.

[2:19:56] It's not so much in the wording.

[2:19:59] It's in how we go and do enforce it,

[2:20:00] which means what's, what's our proof,

[2:20:02] we have a proof problem.

[2:20:04] That's a clear, public information.

[2:20:06] You can just go into the Bear County Records

[2:20:07] and see if it has a home exemption on there.

[2:20:10] and see who's names on there, and you cross-reference it to see where else are they living there.

[2:20:15] Well, what other properties they have, and what kind of, it's on information.

[2:20:20] My wife is excellent at finding stuff out like that. You need a personnel to come work here for you to do that.

[2:20:25] I've got the right person.

[2:20:28] Okay.

[2:20:29] Councillor Hyl and then Councillor Compton.

[2:20:31] So can we have some course of action if a complaint is made and that another citizen does the

[2:20:40] that, you know, something like that.

[2:20:43] I'm not having citizens do an investigation.

[2:20:46] I mean, I mean, I can't stop them from,

[2:20:49] no, no, but what I'm saying is is,

[2:20:51] if you don't have this in here,

[2:20:53] there's nothing that stops the regular citizenry

[2:20:56] from doing that right now.

[2:20:58] You don't need that in a city ordinance,

[2:20:59] because once it's in a city ordinance,

[2:21:01] then you're telling the staff that that's a provision

[2:21:04] that we are to enforce to some degree.

[2:21:08] And I'm big on trying to have ordinances

[2:21:10] that we can we have a couple of ordinances on the book that there's no way for me to enforce so

[2:21:14] it's not like that doesn't happen. If this is in here I'm just letting you know ahead of time

[2:21:21] you can leave it in there. I just don't think that there's a way for my staff to enforce that

[2:21:25] section that way is all I'm saying. Okay. Councilor Kompos, I called on you next and then

[2:21:33] Councilor Bolton. So based on the conversation that we've had here in the die of sin listening

[2:21:39] to our city attorney. I'd like to make a recommendation that we strike. The Section 4

[2:21:47] 1 or dot 0 0 5 restrictions on short-term rentals, Section J or item J.

[2:22:00] That would take

[2:22:01] I understand what how the position that you're coming from, from the staff, trying to enforce it.

[2:22:09] I understand the legal issue.

[2:22:11] If somebody has a problem with it, we can all call, as citizens, to the bare-priced district or wherever we need to call,

[2:22:19] and say, hey, I believe blah, and that would be done with it.

[2:22:25] Okay, does everyone agree?

[2:22:27] Because we're not voting, right?

[2:22:28] I just want to have consensus tonight.

[2:22:30] Okay, so we're going to get rid of the homestead exemption language then in the ordinance. Is that correct?

[2:22:36] The bottom of page 3 on the draft.

[2:22:40] Their packet numbers are a little bit different, but yes, Jay. So I'll go ahead and make that

[2:22:44] deletion for next time. Do you, is this item, do you want to have on your consent agenda?

[2:22:50] Or do you want to have it in your regular agenda again for further discussion?

[2:22:54] I'm okay with consent agenda.

[2:22:56] because we've made that one major change.

[2:22:58] Okay, so the consent agenda for next meeting,

[2:23:01] which is August 4th.

[2:23:02] Okay, thank you.

[2:23:03] I appreciate that.

[2:23:05] Okay, then moving then to agenda item 7.5.

[2:23:09] And again, we can vote on this tonight,

[2:23:12] discussion and possible action on an application

[2:23:15] for a BYOB permit for Wolfspar Nexus,

[2:23:19] a PC gaming destination, located at 7-007,

[2:23:24] vendor road sweet 7 team and we have Michael Gallardo or planning and so need director here this evening

[2:23:31] to present thank you you've been so patient waiting for your agenda item. So thank you so much.

[2:23:38] Absolutely.

[2:23:40] We'll just jump right in.

[2:23:52] Okay so question before city council is whether or not

[2:23:57] to approve of application for a BYOB,

[2:24:01] permit to be located at 7,000, 7, and there are roads week 17.

[2:24:08] The facility is called Wolf's Bar Nexus, and if you're not familiar with that,

[2:24:13] it's a PC gaming environment or facility.

[2:24:16] So basically used for entertainment purposes,

[2:24:21] where people go and, I guess, play video games,

[2:24:25] to just kind of summarize that for you.

[2:24:28] So your options are to approve, deny, or other.

[2:24:33] Step from the clairs that the BYOB

[2:24:36] permanent is compatible with the surrounding area

[2:24:39] or the zone for that.

[2:24:41] Here's your real view of that.

[2:24:43] You're going to see that it's kind of,

[2:24:44] I guess you can say directly behind

[2:24:46] where the seven brews being built.

[2:24:50] I'm sorry you said where the what's being built?

[2:24:52] Seven brews.

[2:24:52] Oh, seven brews.

[2:24:53] That's right.

[2:24:54] Okay.

[2:24:56] The applicant has paid all the fees.

[2:24:59] Excuse me.

[2:24:59] Excuse me just a second.

[2:25:00] We have a comment.

[2:25:03] Yeah.

[2:25:05] Yeah.

[2:25:06] Thank you for letting me know that.

[2:25:09] Okay.

[2:25:10] Anyone else?

[2:25:12] Better?

[2:25:14] Okay.

[2:25:15] Thank you.

[2:25:16] Okay.

[2:25:17] The applicant has paid all fees associated with the BYOB permit application.

[2:25:22] the applicant may apply for more, for no more than four consecutive permits and then the

[2:25:29] permit is good for 90 days.

[2:25:34] And before I go any further Mr. Chumli couldn't be here today

[2:25:39] because he did have to actually man the facility this evening. So he wasn't able to make it.

[2:25:45] Okay. Councillor Arraska. Thank you, Michael. Are they doing this so they can apply for

[2:25:52] But a liquor license, and then I know he takes it while to get it.

[2:25:57] So based on my conversation with him, in fact, I have some notes here where he says,

[2:26:02] it's not really intended to sell alcohol, so he's not going to go that route.

[2:26:07] He's just going to utilize it for like tournaments, special occasions, just events, even

[2:26:14] watch parties where he's going to allow patriot to bring in their own alcohol, but he's

[2:26:19] in the process of selling alcohol nowadays at this time. Does he even want to go that route?

[2:26:27] I don't know the quick. What about his clientele? His clientele or is he going to have a young adults under the age of 21?

[2:26:36] So, in speaking with the chief of police, you know, these are questions that we ask them because there's concern for that.

[2:26:42] his response was that they're going to have policies and procedures set in place so that you know

[2:26:50] only people that are 21 enough or have access to that up on. So those are his words, you know,

[2:26:58] basically he's going to do his due diligence to. So he's going to ensure that himself. He's going to

[2:27:03] regulate himself. Okay. So he'll have policies and practices in place for that. Okay. Yes,

[2:27:09] Councillor Bolton and the business plan behind this if it's only good for 360 days maximum

[2:27:16] Why even started if it's only going to be good for that long it just doesn't make sense

[2:27:23] So you'll be able to do four consecutive one right for 90 days which 360 and then at some point he'll be able to renew and start all over again

[2:27:32] so

[2:27:33] Oh, okay. I understood that it was only four times that they could renew that that was it. It just doesn't make sense to it.

[2:27:40] It is only four times. It is only four times for them. They only get four. The idea that the council had when we were looking at this particular

[2:27:49] B-Y-O-B license was to bridge a gap between the business owner getting a liquor license was the whole reason that we did the B-O-B provision.

[2:28:01] So they were saying it took an average of about a year.

[2:28:04] And so if this was a model they wanted to continue to have, or to set up for businesses that wanted a whole special events.

[2:28:10] So, if he did want to hold a tournament, then he could apply for it for that tournament, and then later on down the line, maybe once a year, be able to do that.

[2:28:20] But the idea of the BYUB ordinance was only to allow for consecutive uses.

[2:28:25] There's not a renewal section in that code that says after two years you can reapply or after a year you can reapply.

[2:28:33] In provision in the ordinance unless you want to make a change to the BYUB ordinance to allow for renewal.

[2:28:38] But as of right now, on the current BIOB ordinance,

[2:28:42] there is not,

[2:28:43] it's just very nice.

[2:28:44] After four renewals, that's it.

[2:28:47] Even if you go out and you get your license from,

[2:28:50] there is not a TABC, yeah, correct.

[2:28:53] In the actual ordinance itself,

[2:28:55] there is unless it lives somewhere else

[2:28:57] that I'm just unaware of,

[2:28:59] there is no provision to renew after a year.

[2:29:02] That isn't say like after the four consecutive,

[2:29:05] you're eligible for renewal.

[2:29:08] That's what I wanted to declare by yes, Councillor.

[2:29:11] Marsh.

[2:29:12] So if he's trying to use this for special events or tournaments, he can have one BYOB permit

[2:29:19] and let's say it goes till the end of the year, that's just three months.

[2:29:24] And then he's not going to have another tournament until six months later.

[2:29:28] Can he opt not to renew right away and extend his coverage time based on his scheduling

[2:29:35] of his tournaments?

[2:29:36] Correct.

[2:29:37] Yes.

[2:29:37] Okay. Now, the BYUB ordinance has not been challenged, and I know in the original conversation about the BYUB conversation was whether or not we could set a parameter for it to begin with.

[2:29:52] So I don't know if this will be the business that will challenge that because state law allows businesses to have a BYUB.

[2:30:00] The first thing I would like to say is, that this is a very extreme thing that, by saying, you need a permit and that permit is supposed to be for 90 days, for for for consecutive times, but, it is part of that ordinance. There wasn't an option, like after a year, after two years, and he could reapply for a BIOB. There's not that provision and that BIOB ordinance.

[2:30:25] Another question completely, so if the owner is planning on implementing policies to limit

[2:30:34] the BYOB to only over 21, what's going to stop younger people from being in the facility

[2:30:42] and participating in the tournament while the guy next to him has the BYOB?

[2:30:47] It doesn't, and so that was my, I had told the mayor this when we talked yesterday, that

[2:30:51] was my concern with the BAAOB, but because this is a permit, I don't get to really kind

[2:30:56] of give my recommendation.

[2:30:57] But my recommendation is gaming systems are set up for all ages.

[2:31:01] And so you could have an adult drinking with a child very close.

[2:31:07] There's not, and I haven't taken a tour of the facility.

[2:31:11] I don't know if there's going to be one room for kids in one room for adults.

[2:31:15] My understanding, it's one open room, and everybody can participate.

[2:31:18] It's an open area with little stations, but it's similar to like what you would see at a main event

[2:31:26] You know, you have a don't string inside by side with playing big games.

[2:31:30] So there's now we have a

[2:31:32] Yes, go ahead and miss to compass. Well if they had at main event

[2:31:36] It's not a BYOB

[2:31:38] Right the facility is it is it don't they have a liquor license right they still all call in this case

[2:31:43] You're just allowed to bring it in right but they're when you to me

[2:31:48] if I understand that if you have a liquor license, then you're jeopardizing somebody who's dispensing

[2:31:55] it as a license and they're responsible.

[2:32:01] I personally am not supportive of this. I think there

[2:32:05] is going to be so many mixed ages. And also, you know, I'm still thinking of that hookabar

[2:32:11] that we had, that had BIOB and all of us and I was asking questions as to what their hours were

[2:32:18] because, you know, the Hucobar state opened to four o'clock. Crime was happening.

[2:32:25] That was my concerns. Councillor Pilton. When you have a liquor license through TABC,

[2:32:31] everyone who serves alcohol has, has a certification. They are trained on what to look for and

[2:32:39] to serve them when not to serve. By having a BYOB you're taking that equation out because there's

[2:32:44] no one who's going to be held liable if that person goes and kills somebody on the way home.

[2:32:55] Nelson Marsh. I guess now it makes me concerned about the BYOB permit that we gave to the stage

[2:33:01] coach, craft store or whatever. There's going to be kids in there too. So now I'm really confused.

[2:33:08] I mean, we didn't even have this discussion about that venue when it's clearly something that, you know, kids can go to.

[2:33:18] Yes, but you're talking, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I thought it was more adult classes at the staging.

[2:33:24] That's the comment I was going to make.

[2:33:26] That business type.

[2:33:27] You're not having 12-year-old kids say, let's go vintage shop, right? If they're going, they're going with a parent.

[2:33:33] over here, this is geared towards means gaming, right? So you are going to have a

[2:33:41] teenagers wanting to go play in using the gaming system. But again, it was more of my concern

[2:33:48] of the regulation of the amount of alcohol that an adult is able to bring in. And if the

[2:33:53] vintage shop, the question was whether or not they could drink while they painted or do a

[2:33:59] project or whatever. And they closed early too. Right, they closed it like

[2:34:02] seven o'clock. And the question came up whether or not we can regulate the time and

[2:34:06] this isn't an SUP. This is just you authorizing a permit for a BIOB. And so those

[2:34:12] were my concerns, but because again, we're not discussing an SUP or discussing

[2:34:17] whether or not to give them the permit to have a BIOB permit at their facility to

[2:34:22] adults to bring in alcohol and drink while they're game. For those of you unfamiliar with

[2:34:30] gaming, gaming scenarios can go on on a computer for hours, half a day. And so the amount of

[2:34:38] alcohol you can consume in those hours versus a one-hour project at a vintage paint by number

[2:34:46] situation is very different than gaming scenarios. So those were the questions that I had,

[2:34:52] had a conversation with the chief and those really kinds of the concerns that came up.

[2:34:57] Councillor Roscoe.

[2:34:57] Thank you, Mayor.

[2:34:58] I'm also getting flashback from the Hooker Lounge, a matter of fact, I'm sure

[2:35:02] Congress and I, with the one said, made the motion to close it down.

[2:35:06] And I don't see there have been any control inside, and, of course, it had license to

[2:35:15] have that responsibility they have to take control.

[2:35:17] I can see a getting on a hand, I can see under age drinking, I just, I just had bad taste

[2:35:29] and mouth on the hook of lunch and I'm told you against it as well.

[2:35:33] All right, anyone else?

[2:35:37] I do want to make the distinction just for the record because it may come up later.

[2:35:41] The hook allowance was an after-hours club and there's music and it was a different, again,

[2:35:47] and we're talking about targeted businesses.

[2:35:49] It was a different type of business model.

[2:35:53] And so I think it's just kind of important to know

[2:35:56] if we're gonna, it's not the same comparison

[2:35:58] but it's still think that there's issues with it.

[2:36:01] Don't they stay open till like 11?

[2:36:03] It's midnight, but the hook allowance was,

[2:36:06] they're talking the morning.

[2:36:07] Correct.

[2:36:07] It was midnight till early morning,

[2:36:09] five or six o'clock in the morning.

[2:36:10] So I just want to make that distinction.

[2:36:12] Yes, so they stay open to 10, Monday, Tuesday, Friday

[2:36:16] and Saturday, he's open to midnight, close on Sundays.

[2:36:20] Thank you for that.

[2:36:21] Councillor Colbus.

[2:36:22] I would agree with that it's not the same, however,

[2:36:26] you're dealing with lower, younger, aged participants.

[2:36:32] And that's where I'm having trouble with.

[2:36:37] Okay.

[2:36:38] I'll do the motion.

[2:36:39] Yes.

[2:36:39] We're having motion.

[2:36:40] And I have a motion.

[2:36:41] Yes, Councillor Roscoe.

[2:36:42] Thank you, Mayor.

[2:36:44] I'd like to make a motion.

[2:36:45] 9.7.5, denying the application for the BIOB permit, I can give you the whole thing.

[2:36:57] Or Walskron, next is at PC gaming destination located at 70007 Bindale Road.

[2:37:06] All right, we have a motion by Councillor Arrasco, and a second by Councillor Compos to deny the

[2:37:13] application for a BIO permit to Wolfs bar next is the PC gaming destination located at 7-0-0-0-7-bender

[2:37:23] road, any further discussion.

[2:37:28] All those in favor say aye.

[2:37:30] Aye. Any opposed? That's the unanimous. Is that correct? The motion does pass for a denial unanimously. Thank you.

[2:37:42] All right. Moving then to 7.6, presentation and discussion on an ordinance amending, chapter 6, health and sanitation, article 6.02, food establishments, section 6.02.002, definition of food.

[2:37:58] establishments to amend food establishment definitions and add definitions for child care center

[2:38:05] school food service operation and mobile food vendor section 6.02.003 licenses permits and

[2:38:16] sections, subsection E1 and subsection 8 to comply with state law and amending appendix

[2:38:25] A Feset Schedule, Article A6.00, Food Establishments, Section A6.001, License Feseste

[2:38:35] leading mobile food, vending license fee of $120 and mobile food truck vending food license

[2:38:43] of $35 and repealing ordinance 2021-58. Again, this is our first read as required by City Council,

[2:38:52] so we won't vote on it tonight, but we will, and again, this is, this is because not from the

[2:39:00] retreat, but this is because state law chain. They legislate, right? That's why we're addressing it.

[2:39:04] Okay, thank you, Mr. Garardo. If you please continue and welcome back.

[2:39:10] So, again, the question before city council is to approve whether or not to approve the amendments to chapter 6 and sanitation.

[2:39:19] So, your options are to approve, deny your other.

[2:39:23] Staff the players that all amendments should be should follow state law subsequently approve of the amendments, right?

[2:39:33] So, this is required, you know, again, so that we comply with state legislations,

[2:39:39] specifically, the first part of it is going to be HP 2844, which is pretty much prefer to

[2:39:46] as the food truck freedom act. And we're also amending Section 6.022.022 definitions of food

[2:39:55] establishments. So it's to amend the definition of food establishments. Meaning that we're just

[2:40:02] going to have the same meaning assigned in the Texas food establishment rules. 25 Texas administrative

[2:40:09] code chapter 228 as amended. So the last part as amended is important because when state legislation

[2:40:16] goes back and they make other changes what the arse will just follow whatever they change.

[2:40:21] And you can thank Dr. Calvator for that.

[2:40:25] Amendment Section 6.02.002 definitions of food establishments. So here we're going to add

[2:40:39] So, the definition for Child Care Center,

[2:40:43] so have the meaning assigned by the Texas Food Establishment

[2:40:46] rules and applicable state licensing regulations.

[2:40:51] We're adding school food service operation,

[2:40:55] which means food service operation operated

[2:40:57] by a public school district, charter school,

[2:41:01] or accredited private school subject to state

[2:41:03] or federal school nutrition programs.

[2:41:07] Lastly, we're going to add mobile food vendor, which means a person operating in a food

[2:41:12] vending vehicle license by the Texas Department of State Health Services pursuing to Texas

[2:41:20] health and safety coach, Chapter 437B.

[2:41:26] As part of our other amendments, we are going to amend Section 6.02, 0.003 licenses, permits,

[2:41:34] and exemptions, E1 by exempting public schools, licensed child care facilities, various facilities and college food operations from obtaining the city food establishment permit, while in compliance with the state requirements.

[2:41:52] So, essentially, that's just saying that, you know, the city can't charge for a permit

[2:41:57] when the state already has charged them.

[2:42:02] So, Section E, a food store or establishment operated solely by a nonprofit organization,

[2:42:08] an exit exam from the permit and requirements of this article,

[2:42:13] but not exempt from compliance with state rules.

[2:42:16] The regulatory authority may require any information necessary to determine whether an organization

[2:42:21] is nonprofit for purposes of this exemption.

[2:42:27] So, subset one of that, the following are exempt from obtaining a city, food, establishment

[2:42:33] permit, and this is otherwise required by state law.

[2:42:37] So, you're going to have your public schools, which are participating in the state or federal

[2:42:42] school nutrition program, licensed child care facilities,

[2:42:47] suspected by another government agency, authorized to conduct food safety inspections, typically

[2:42:53] that's going to be your state that's going to inspect those child care facilities.

[2:42:58] And in facilities, especially exempted by the Texas food establishment rules, those are

[2:43:04] going to be facilities that are going to sell package items.

[2:43:07] Things that are already packaged and sealed, so there's really no need for a permit

[2:43:11] for them.

[2:43:12] And then lastly, in the bottom, you have the production of cottage foods, people that have

[2:43:17] baked goods and they sell stuff like that at farmers markets and things of that nature.

[2:43:26] We're also going to amend section 6.02.003 licenses permits and exemptions H by exempting

[2:43:35] a mobile food, then they're from obtained the city food establishment permit to comply with state law.

[2:43:41] Again, the state has a city and county can charge if they're going to get a permit with a lot with the state

[2:43:53] It's the more do y'all want to go hit and ask your questions go ahead. I just wondered the other day

[2:43:58] I was coming down Bandara Road and there was a

[2:44:01] Like a fruit market or something at Santa and Bandara

[2:44:05] It looked like just a family had done a pop-up tent and we're selling in the parking lot

[2:44:12] We don't allow that here. I didn't think we did

[2:44:15] I wasn't sure what to do about it, but the people that have the vending like in the vendors area on Griss and they all have permits, and I just want to make sure.

[2:44:27] Hi, Sarah, just so I can clarify just a little city manager called Sarah.

[2:44:31] So you have mobile tent pop up. That's not a mobile food vendor. Mobile food vendor is tied more to vehicle sales or mobile food truck.

[2:44:40] And essentially what happened was the state came in and said we are going to regulate mobile food

[2:44:44] bending and those fees are going to come to us.

[2:44:47] There is a provision in the Texas Local Government Code that would allow us to work out

[2:44:53] a interlocal agreement with them to give us some permitting at the awarding.

[2:44:56] We would have to go to train.

[2:44:57] I just didn't want to go through.

[2:44:58] I don't have the staff to go through all of this.

[2:45:01] So, essentially, what we will do is they would have to provide their permit from the state that they've been inspected by the state, and then they have the state permit, and that's how they would be allowed to operate here.

[2:45:11] So, if they are going to end in a parking lot, they have to have their state permit. The pop-up tense, they are not allowed here. They would have to come for an SUP or a temporary SUP. So, if you ever see those, grass, fruit, please notify us, because nine times out of ten, if you haven't seen it come before,

[2:45:29] the council, they're probably not a left.

[2:45:32] Is that permit just, is that good for like a year?

[2:45:35] I don't know how this means to me.

[2:45:37] I don't know how the, I don't just wondering.

[2:45:39] I mean, I'm not relating the,

[2:45:40] I don't know if it's a year permit or, I mean,

[2:45:43] I'm sure it's a year lead permit,

[2:45:45] just kind of like a restaurant permit.

[2:45:47] Yeah.

[2:45:47] Is how it's gonna be,

[2:45:48] but we can still regulate fire inspection,

[2:45:50] we can still regulate zoning,

[2:45:52] you can still regulate,

[2:45:52] there's certain things as part of the mobile

[2:45:54] bending arena that we can still regulate.

[2:45:56] We just can't issue a permit for them,

[2:45:59] permit fee or do the health inspection portion of it. That's going to be regulated by the state and how did that impact our budget?

[2:46:06] He's getting so much less light. I'm sorry. It's on his slide. He's getting to. Oh, he's getting okay. I didn't see that. Okay.

[2:46:13] Did Councillor Comfort have his hand up next and then Councillor.

[2:46:18] This may now be part of this, but a question is.

[2:46:23] So, the things that I've seen on Bender and Seneca is more of a church giving away food.

[2:46:34] And so, what covers that?

[2:46:38] And is there anything that we can, as a city, we regulate?

[2:46:43] But every once in a while, there's a church way in the back.

[2:46:49] So in the past that we don't have a regulation against it, technically they're not permitted

[2:46:54] to do it.

[2:46:54] They're supposed to have an SUP in order to be able to provide food.

[2:46:59] Now because the food is free and coming to help a certain area of the population typically

[2:47:04] cities do not intervene because they are giving away free food to those in need.

[2:47:09] So whether it's a church doing it, whether it's an parking lot, the only time we'll step

[2:47:13] to regulate is if it's blocking traffic, especially along Bender or Road.

[2:47:17] Our MPD traffic along Senika that doesn't allow people to move through the camera system,

[2:47:22] then our police will go out there to either tell them to cut the line or to reorganize their

[2:47:28] traffic.

[2:47:29] Our biggest concern when we have those is the traffic impact.

[2:47:33] We would like them to come ahead of time to let us know and we would work something out

[2:47:36] with them.

[2:47:37] But we don't have provisions in our code that say free food bending versus cell of food is

[2:47:42] very different.

[2:47:42] so when you have somebody selling fruits and vegetables

[2:47:45] or like a makeshift farmers market, that is regulated.

[2:47:49] Right, we have a provisions for that.

[2:47:50] When you normally will go out there and say,

[2:47:52] hey, you don't have the correct permits

[2:47:53] in order to be established here.

[2:47:56] But giving away free food sponsored by a church

[2:47:58] or a private organization, we typically don't intervene

[2:48:02] because it doesn't play well publicly,

[2:48:04] because they're trying to help certain people, certain demographic.

[2:48:10] I was just saying things that I believe what she saw was probably the weekly food giveaway that

[2:48:16] it is at that corner in the shopping center every week and we have had some instances where

[2:48:22] the line goes all the way down handsome lake and blocks traffic. And if you see that please

[2:48:27] well please call and put in the non-emergency number and we normally will send an officer out there

[2:48:31] and tell them you need to submit a traffic plan if you're going to be impeding traffic or reorganize

[2:48:36] your traffic to where it's going through the parking lot. I haven't seen that long a line

[2:48:40] for a little while now. So it's been a shorter line. The cars line up before they've even got

[2:48:45] the tent and the food set up pretty much. Thank you, Mayor. See that again, Dr. Cordera,

[2:48:52] it's called a police if what not? So if they're cleaning traffic, so what happens is if you're

[2:48:56] coming up, Senika and Senika is one way, one way. If so, if you can't get on to Bandir road because

[2:49:04] the cars aren't lined up appropriately, please call the non-emergency number and we'll have a police

[2:49:09] Officer, go up there to either move the line over,

[2:49:11] ask them to re-snake their lines through the parking lot

[2:49:16] so they're not impacting the traffic along Santa Go.

[2:49:19] We have approached them about trying to use a larger parking lot

[2:49:23] like across the street because it can hold the traffic

[2:49:26] better.

[2:49:27] We've had conversations with them,

[2:49:28] and I think that that's why that you haven't seen that.

[2:49:31] They've been trying to do like registration,

[2:49:33] like kind of like a sign up.

[2:49:35] So I think that's helped a little bit,

[2:49:36] but different organizations pop up.

[2:49:38] And so we do have to deal with this on the computer.

[2:49:40] Okay, and then we're always going with this,

[2:49:42] is that St. John has the food back.

[2:49:45] But they start laying up at four o'clock in the morning

[2:49:48] in front of my house, and if the whole Chanel point,

[2:49:52] and of course, we saw their advertisement,

[2:49:57] then it's supposed to be laying up to six.

[2:49:59] Is there any way that they can line up

[2:50:01] at DPS office or at the school?

[2:50:04] So they would have to work out that agreement with them.

[2:50:06] So they're allowed to line up in a public street.

[2:50:09] They cannot block traffic.

[2:50:11] They cannot block your driveway.

[2:50:13] And so if they're not doing any of the two,

[2:50:15] they can line up on a public street.

[2:50:18] So they're blocking your driveway.

[2:50:22] And so in you, it's just, it just depends.

[2:50:25] And so you would call them on emergency number.

[2:50:27] And if they're blocking your driveway

[2:50:28] or impeding traffic, then the officer will ask,

[2:50:31] Saint John Baptist to have them really.

[2:50:32] Saint John Baptist is notorious for the food giveaway.

[2:50:35] it's something that they advertise. It's made it on case 12 news. It's one of their feathers

[2:50:40] in their cap. The city definitely doesn't go over their own regulate. St. John Baptist

[2:50:43] food give away. They are helping a certain demographic. However, we do make sure that you can

[2:50:51] get out safely from your home. You can get out safely from your subdivision and you can

[2:50:55] reach even your road safely. If you can do all of those things, then no, we're not regulating

[2:51:00] the line. And so, and I don't regulate their advertisement.

[2:51:05] Okay, and people like that.

[2:51:06] But everybody, yeah, for the food pantries,

[2:51:09] I mean, there's some food pantries here in San Antonio.

[2:51:11] People start lining up at three o'clock in the morning.

[2:51:14] So, I mean, that just shows what the economy is right now,

[2:51:18] and people's need of availability.

[2:51:20] And we're happy that these services exist,

[2:51:22] because there's been times where we've been asked as a city

[2:51:25] to open up a food pantry, because there wasn't any available resources.

[2:51:28] And so some of these things have been encouraged by the city in the past for some churches

[2:51:33] to host these types of events because the city doesn't hold a food pantry or Medicaid reliable food source for individuals in need.

[2:51:44] Okay, and I'm not a guest, you know, given food to the poor.

[2:51:48] I'm sorry.

[2:51:49] I guess we gave an upsogeic here.

[2:51:51] I was just going to ask about the farmers market.

[2:51:56] So that's separate, where do they, where do they fit, not here, but another, yes.

[2:52:02] So the farmers market, we do have an old MOU, one of those evergreen, with the National

[2:52:08] Farmers Association, and the reason that that was set up was to provide fresh organic

[2:52:14] fruit and vegetables that were eligible for snap benefits, and it was an old agreement that

[2:52:20] was set up way before, even 20 years, I mean, it's been a long existing, we've

[2:52:26] try it a few times to amend that MOU and there's nobody.

[2:52:30] We will be willing to, from the farmers market association, willing to amend the MOU. These people just join this organization and kind of show up at our community center.

[2:52:42] And so we continue to allow them to be there for as long as I've been here. Sometimes we have one or two people. Sometimes we have five people over there.

[2:52:49] But the big component of that is for them to accept snap benefits and providing fresh fruits

[2:52:57] and vegetables.

[2:52:58] So that's the original agreement and that agreement does have to be updated.

[2:53:03] We can cancel it because they're technically not in compliance with that original agreement,

[2:53:09] but we can't find anybody to renew or it's kind of a weird thing.

[2:53:14] Yeah, but they're they're in the parking lot on Wednesdays next to the library and I know there's the other farmer market the farmers market like at the quarry and I'm wondering well those are a little bit different

[2:53:26] So this one was set up through the farmer have I know I'm getting the organization wrong farmers Association specifically for that the farmers market

[2:53:33] You're seeing at the quarry are more like vendors that are trying to sell food specialized jams and correct correct

[2:53:41] And like they're doing like homemade quilts and jams and stuff. That's not our farmers market our farmers market with specifically for home grown vegetables and fruit

[2:53:52] There's not other vendors at our farmers market

[2:53:56] Anyone else

[2:53:58] So

[2:53:59] This was first read

[2:54:02] I believe and

[2:54:04] You finished, I'm sorry.

[2:54:07] Yes.

[2:54:08] I'm sorry.

[2:54:10] There we go.

[2:54:11] Thank you so much, Mr. Gerard.

[2:54:13] So, and I apologize that I'm reading,

[2:54:16] but that's the language that, you know,

[2:54:20] you know,

[2:54:20] the only way to best phrase it is,

[2:54:23] through the language that, you know,

[2:54:24] after we did research and stuff,

[2:54:26] so it's more to the point,

[2:54:28] but notwithstanding any provisions of this article,

[2:54:31] a mobile food vendor license

[2:54:33] by the Texas Department of State Health and Services,

[2:54:37] pursuing to chapter 47B of the Texas Health and Safety Coach.

[2:54:42] She'll not be required to obtain

[2:54:44] a separate city food, establishment, and permit.

[2:54:47] However, as we talked about,

[2:54:50] there's some things that the city can oversee or require.

[2:54:54] So the city may require a compliance

[2:54:56] with zoning regulation,

[2:54:58] fire inspection, site permits for operation on city owned property, special event permits,

[2:55:06] traffic and parking compliance, building electrical and plumbing inspections, where applicable.

[2:55:16] So again, we're lastly, we're going to amend the appendix A fee schedule.

[2:55:20] article A6.00 by deleting section A6.001c, mobile food, vending license fee of $120 annually,

[2:55:33] and mobile food truck vending food license of $35 annually.

[2:55:40] So the difference between those two are the one that's $120 are going to be like the food

[2:55:50] It's part that the church, for example, at that parking lot.

[2:55:54] The one that's 35 dollars were specifically written,

[2:55:56] I believe, for the food truck park.

[2:56:01] So fiscal impact is pretty minimal,

[2:56:05] because if you look at food establishment licenses,

[2:56:09] for example, now that the schools are exempt from that,

[2:56:12] you had three N.I.S.D. schools in the city, combined.

[2:56:15] And your fee was about $1,500.

[2:56:19] That's between two elementary and high school.

[2:56:22] And then the second one, you know, the $35 food truck permit there was annual.

[2:56:28] We only had five trucks they were in compliance.

[2:56:31] So at the time when we started going after these food trucks because it was obviously more

[2:56:35] than five park at the food truck park, we kind of struggled to get them into compliance

[2:56:42] and hence they got a new owner for the property in this amount of the park completely.

[2:56:50] So that's your fiscal impact.

[2:56:52] I know pretty many more of you, you know, for a city of this size.

[2:56:55] And then lastly, you know, staff does recommend that we make these amendments to chapter 6, health and sanitation.

[2:57:02] And the city council will prove that.

[2:57:04] Okay.

[2:57:05] So I just kind of want to give an example, like earthwise, for instance.

[2:57:10] So we have a food truck, we can't charge them a food permit, but we can have the far

[2:57:18] Marshal or far to go over an expensive for safety, but that's it.

[2:57:23] Yes, ma'am. Okay. I just wanted to kind of put it in an

[2:57:27] example. Okay, thank you. Yes, Councillor Compost.

[2:57:33] I'd like to recommend that we put this on the consent agenda.

[2:57:37] consensus for everyone for the next meeting. Thank you. I appreciate that. Okay, and we move

[2:57:43] into the last agenda is 7.7. Precentation and possible action on economic and community

[2:57:51] development advisory committee objection, excuse me, objectives, and we have Sarah or Walpole

[2:57:57] our economic development and special projects director, and we are able to vote on this tonight.

[2:58:03] It's awesome. Thank you.

[2:58:04] Come back.

[2:58:06] So, today, tonight City Council is being asked to review the City's economic and community development

[2:58:10] advisory communities objectives. Your options are to approve, deny, so reject or also provide

[2:58:17] alternatives to direct the advisory committees, future objectives.

[2:58:22] And this is, of course, a City Council discussion. The purpose is to get approval.

[2:58:29] Now, just to give some background, the Economic Development Advisory Committee hasn't reconvened

[2:58:36] since March of 2024.

[2:58:38] So this year in June, we've had two meetings with the committee, and they're very motivated

[2:58:44] to get on something to work on as a group.

[2:58:47] And they've also wanted to get together on a policy objective.

[2:58:51] Now, there's two ways they can do that.

[2:58:53] one, the City Council can direct the committee on an objective or policy to work on or as the

[2:59:00] committee has done, they've identified an objective or policy and are asking for permission

[2:59:04] to proceed. So that's what I'm coming with tonight for you. And so with Dr. Caldera's help

[2:59:11] as well as the committee is sort of feedback, I've kind of put together some ideas for the committee

[2:59:17] and they were able to express what policy initiatives they'd like to review in the future and I'd

[2:59:23] to see these three items is kind of a tier step plan for the committee to work on throughout

[2:59:27] the year. First is to conduct a business inventory of available properties. This kind of

[2:59:32] goes hand-in-hand with the work I'm currently doing, which is a comprehensive business audit. Just

[2:59:38] to get a landscape of all the businesses here, available properties. And now I'm doing the sort of

[2:59:45] day-to-day work of looking up certificates of occupancy, the permitting, all the requirements

[2:59:50] associated with this now the economic development advisory committee would be working on just a simple sort of status of if a business is in a suite.

[3:00:00] Or a tenant is there, if there's a vacant property available, they would be doing this through public right of ways or in parking lots, they would not be directly interacting with businesses or, you know, approaching business owners, anything like that, doing any of their own code compliance or anything like that, it's just to prepare a simple list.

[3:00:19] And this is to get them familiar with the business environment, the ecosystem here. We have a lot of new members on the committee.

[3:00:25] And so, before they wanted to make policy recommendations and jump into all of that, the idea was to support this business inventory.

[3:00:35] Now, next, it's going to be compiling that list.

[3:00:39] So, I'm about halfway through with my audit and so their support would be helpful.

[3:00:45] And I think in about six months we're going to have all of that data available.

[3:00:49] And that's where they can start looking at what areas they'd like to see additional development.

[3:00:54] future sort of opportunities. With that, they'd also like to review the facade and building

[3:01:00] improvement program. So I know I have on the August 4th agenda an economic development incentive

[3:01:06] policy overview with you all and this is going to coincide with that pretty well. I'm going to

[3:01:12] be providing the committee with some of that research on benchmark cities and what they're doing

[3:01:16] for the facade and building improvement grant programs, how our current program compares and ways

[3:01:21] we can enhance it or how previous agreements have gone in the past.

[3:01:26] And so it's going to be at the committee's recommendations and they may bring that all back to you with future recommendations as well.

[3:01:34] So that's kind of my tier step plan for the committee to keep them engaged this year

[3:01:38] and have some positive policy updates for you all.

[3:01:42] So can I ask just how are they going to go about doing this?

[3:01:45] Yeah, of course.

[3:01:46] Are they going in groups?

[3:01:47] Yes.

[3:01:48] Are they going door to door?

[3:01:49] are they, you know? Yeah, that's a great question. So for item number one, the business inventory,

[3:01:55] we're going to be dividing the city into cauldrons. I'm kind of putting to a list together of

[3:02:00] accessible shopping centers, so not the more industrial parkways and things like that. But things

[3:02:07] that they can kind of just drive in, take a simple notes from their binders in their car. And it's

[3:02:17] a certain way, down certain roads.

[3:02:20] This is also going to get them familiar with things

[3:02:22] that they might not know about Leon Valley.

[3:02:24] So having them kind of have that experience

[3:02:27] and see what all is available.

[3:02:30] But they're not going to be engaging directly.

[3:02:32] They're not going to be entering businesses

[3:02:33] anything like that.

[3:02:35] We will be at the August 3rd meeting for the committee.

[3:02:39] We will be giving them instructions

[3:02:40] and giving them instructions on best practices, things like that, making sure that they're

[3:02:46] not engaging or doing anything like that. That'll be all at the staff's mercy I guess

[3:02:52] with my comprehensive audit. And that's what I've been doing is working with planning and

[3:02:56] zoning directly. Now, if they have any questions or anything like that, they can come to me directly,

[3:03:01] but we were not going to ask them to engage businesses or anything like that.

[3:03:04] All right. And they can choose to do it to answer the second part. They can choose to do it

[3:03:07] groups. Some of them have expressed to do it with partners, with partners, so they can discuss

[3:03:13] how they want to break up their quadrants that they want to go together. And so that's kind

[3:03:19] of the consensus we got from the committee last time. Yes, Councillor Heil. How many members do you

[3:03:27] have on the committee? Yeah, five members currently. And then we have Council Member Merchaser,

[3:03:32] as a advisory. Okay. Yeah. Thank you.

[3:03:36] Yes. Council vote, Pulton. I'm just wondering if if they're reviewing the

[3:03:41] facade, the building, if they're not going inside, who does go inside to make sure

[3:03:46] that we're code compliant, does that fall in the fire department? Yes, so it would be

[3:03:50] with the fire department and also with planning and zoning. So with my, with the

[3:03:54] comprehensive business audit that I'm conducting, that we do about every two

[3:03:58] years the last one I think that was completed was in 2022. So my job is to make sure that I'm

[3:04:04] looking up certificates of occupancy with planning and zoning. If I see a red flag or something

[3:04:08] like that, that's where I can engage. Our department directors and handle that directly, but yeah,

[3:04:15] it'll be through those that you staff. Thank you. Yes, Councillor Compas.

[3:04:21] Well, thank you for answering the questions I had. I think it's very important that we make sure

[3:04:28] everyone's trained to make sure that they understand what their responsibilities are.

[3:04:34] We've had in the past where somebody may have approached the business because they were

[3:04:39] on a committee like this and there was some misrepresentation from what I've heard.

[3:04:45] I don't know the specifics.

[3:04:48] So the other thing is that they're understanding our budget constraints.

[3:04:54] They can come up with some fantastic, the sod improvement programs, but if we don't have the money for that, I don't know how.

[3:05:03] You know, they're going to do all this work and then feel defeated. Oh, they don't want to do it, but we have budget constraints.

[3:05:10] And so I think they need to know that and understand it.

[3:05:15] Yeah, I'll just think on that a little bit. It's going to be for the policy recommendations. They're not going to be allocating budgets or anything like that.

[3:05:22] And so I'll make it explicit obviously, of course,

[3:05:25] when we get to that point about available budgets

[3:05:27] in the way that we have to be conservative

[3:05:29] with what we're working with.

[3:05:31] But yes, they won't be engaging on the budget portion

[3:05:34] of this piece.

[3:05:35] It's really just the policies.

[3:05:36] So I'm thinking about what's in the language?

[3:05:39] What are we asking from these business or property owners

[3:05:42] that we may not be asking for right now currently

[3:05:45] within the policy, recapture provisions, things like that

[3:05:48] that can help, you know, true of some of that compliance that we've seen in the past.

[3:05:54] And I think just a deep dive into what we've done before and how we can do it better,

[3:05:57] but not necessarily a full-scale budget recommendation or anything like that.

[3:06:02] But even at the policy level, I think when you're creating that policy, at the end of the road,

[3:06:12] there's dollars associated with it. That's where I was going with that.

[3:06:16] And you know,

[3:06:21] I was talking to the city manager earlier that we've had citizens participate in reviews of our RFPs and we've had citizens who are on that committee call up the vendors and it's kind of like wait a minute.

[3:06:36] You expressly have, we have to make sure they understand what they're like a code of conduct.

[3:06:42] And it's not supposed to do X. Whatever that is, I don't know.

[3:06:47] But I just want to make sure everybody's aware that we don't get.

[3:06:53] It's an exercise, an important one that you're doing and I think the objectives are worthwhile,

[3:07:00] but just don't, they don't go beyond that.

[3:07:03] So, it's just my input.

[3:07:06] I just like to add that I know, this is a, this is a, we had it budgeted in the past under projects, right?

[3:07:16] I know we had a facade program.

[3:07:20] So you have, so I don't know where it came from, but I just know it was under economic development and these businesses would apply.

[3:07:30] And so you have a project funding line item. You have several policies. You have a facade improvement policy. You can do a 380. You can do various different and Sarah will go over all of your programs at the August 4th meeting. Like all of the economic development available instead of policies that we currently have in chess and recommendations as to improving some of those policies that we currently have already and that will be presented to you on August 4th.

[3:08:00] This in particular, when we asked the committee what they would like their objective to be a brainstorming session,

[3:08:06] these are the items that they said that they really wanted to focus on the facade or the aesthetics of the way we look.

[3:08:12] But they felt like they couldn't give an appropriate policy recommendation without actually knowing our economic development ecosystem.

[3:08:20] and so it was made as a recommendation from the committee to be able to take kind of an observational

[3:08:29] look at our business district in order for them to give appropriate policy recommendations.

[3:08:35] They felt like they needed this piece before the other piece. Do I think they needed this piece

[3:08:39] before the other piece? No, not really, but if they felt that they did, then the committee can certainly

[3:08:44] do that. But all of those including a facade improvement program, we have all of those incentives

[3:08:50] are ready and is so if we got an application for one of those, it would be pulled from your

[3:08:55] project funding line item. If they don't, they're not looking at that project. They're not looking

[3:09:02] at funding. They will not be looking at specific facade programs. They're just looking at the

[3:09:08] policy for the facade program.

[3:09:13] But if we were to get a facade grant or the application.

[3:09:20] It would come from that.

[3:09:21] If the council is so too strong to have any money in it for next year,

[3:09:26] that is correct to come from their reserve fund.

[3:09:29] That's all I was clarifying.

[3:09:31] So we have a vast variety of different incentive programs that we currently

[3:09:34] have in Go and our city website.

[3:09:36] You can see a laundry list.

[3:09:37] We have a facade program.

[3:09:38] We have different policies and procedures in regards to different economic development incentives and all of them still exist

[3:09:46] We just don't have current and next year's budget this year. We do, but in next year's budget

[3:09:51] We don't have any dollars tied to those programs and so if you

[3:09:56] Get an application and you want to fund set application that would come from the reserve amount for next year

[3:10:01] This year we have a project funding line item and so if we were to receive a grant application

[3:10:06] And then we would, and if the council so chose to do so, then they would use that project funding line item to fund, whether it's a facade, whether it's a 380, whether it's just a co-sponsorship situation for something that would all come from that project funding line item.

[3:10:23] So I just want to clarify that.

[3:10:24] Anyone else?

[3:10:26] OK,

[3:10:29] let me have a couple of slides.

[3:10:30] But it's clearing right ahead.

[3:10:32] But yeah, now we're back to the.

[3:10:35] And this, of course, just to touch on the exact duties

[3:10:38] and responsibilities, we did a little bit about this.

[3:10:40] But we will make it very clear what their duties are.

[3:10:44] That was the initial conversation.

[3:10:45] We had June 15th was kind of deep dive into the duties

[3:10:50] and responsibilities of members.

[3:10:52] But of course, they're not going to be reviewing any application.

[3:10:54] grant applications and anything like that. So we'll keep that a clear direction as we go forward.

[3:11:00] And then recommendation for you all today is to prove the exact committee recommended objectives.

[3:11:06] No fiscal impact on this item. And then of course our strategic goals and objectives

[3:11:11] is that economic development goal. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. Councillor Kampos.

[3:11:19] Great presentation. Thank you. I'd like to make a motion that we move forward with the

[3:11:29] Yes. I'd like to second that motion. Thank you. We'll have a motion, but Council

[3:11:33] Composence. Second, but Councilor Merch to approve the Economic Community Development

[3:11:41] Advisory Committee Objective as stated. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye?

[3:11:49] Aye. Any opposed? The motion does carry. Just make a note that Councilor Bolton was

[3:11:54] of the room and it did not vote. I did want to say though, not in the motion, but wifey

[3:12:00] Vaughan is a chair for this committee, and she knows the challenges that are facing them,

[3:12:06] but she's excited about it. She knows it's a policy, and hopefully a new enthusiasm

[3:12:11] is going to do this new group and make it a success.

[3:12:14] Or meant, so I think they've got new members. I'm sorry.

[3:12:19] I just put in some work in today, yes.

[3:12:20] I bet we'll thank them for us too as well.

[3:12:24] Okay, in any need to go into an executive session this evening to discuss.

[3:12:30] Well, it's not something that we're just going to do in update,

[3:12:35] but one of the places

[3:12:35] going through the mailboxes criteria again, and they will be replacing some more mailboxes

[3:12:44] and then they're going to wait a year like they did last time, so hopefully they'll get that done.

[3:12:47] And my chief of staff did just contact me and said that, the Grosom Leon Valley, the seniors.

[3:12:55] They won the two games today, so they're still deep in the tournament in Louisiana.

[3:13:03] All right.

[3:13:04] So that's the softball team from Northwest LA.

[3:13:07] That's what you're talking about.

[3:13:09] Okay.

[3:13:09] Very good.

[3:13:10] All right.

[3:13:11] So, but no need to go into executive session, right?

[3:13:13] Well, you're ready past those two items, Mayor.

[3:13:15] short term. You've passed this two items they were for short term rental and animal

[3:13:18] ordinance. Somebody wanted to go discuss it I guess. Okay anybody I have

[3:13:23] future agenda items that you'd like to discuss.

[3:13:29] I've just been reading about the

[3:13:31] ticks and people getting sick from the ticks and that's deer. I don't know if we

[3:13:37] need to look at that in the future. Anyway just what would you like me to add

[3:13:43] future in 1991? Well, I'm just, I mean, it's been defeated twice now, but it's been a while.

[3:13:49] Oh, so you're talking about not feeding the deer? Yeah. Okay, that's the, so not ticks. I'm sorry,

[3:13:54] because it's the ticks too, because you're deer of tracks, the ticks, and that's, so do people's

[3:14:00] dogs in the whole natural area. I mean, you have our coons, fox squirrels. Well, your, your natural

[3:14:05] area is in the center of your city. I mean, it, and your natural area is going to encompass all the deer.

[3:14:13] And so, I mean, yes, you have deer feedings that are occurring, that are keeping the deer going through some of the neighborhoods.

[3:14:23] So, if you want to discuss the deer feeding, we can add that to the agenda.

[3:14:27] What you said, or what I heard was ticks.

[3:14:30] And so I did it with the ticks because of the health issues that I'm reading people are getting sick.

[3:14:39] So do you want to add the don't feed the deer ordinance on the agenda?

[3:14:43] Actually I always like more like I said more concerned about the health implications,

[3:14:47] but I don't know how we deal with that, you know?

[3:14:50] We've got the screw-room and the parasites as well, so I...

[3:14:55] So yeah.

[3:14:56] Anyway, maybe I'll think about it, but I mean I just...

[3:15:00] I mean, I just have it. I can dust it off, change the change of date, and we can add it on for discussion if that's something to do with it.

[3:15:05] We can certainly discuss. I think we've got to take hold of the feeding I really do.

[3:15:11] Do you want to, if you want to add it on, I'd add it on to our future.

[3:15:14] Well, maybe after the budget.

[3:15:17] So like October?

[3:15:18] Yeah. I think so, because the budget is taking a lot of time.

[3:15:22] Okay. Oh, yeah. Councillor Merch, what are you saying?

[3:15:25] I think particularly the feeding of the deer in the neighborhoods.

[3:15:28] I mean, it's bad enough when people feed them in the natural area, but when they are drawing the deer out into the neighborhoods, then there's more likelihood that they're going to interact with the dogs or, you know, whatever.

[3:15:41] So I know that it's a problem in my neighborhood, and I've been driving through four stoics early in the morning to get to a seven o'clock appointment, and there's deer all over the place.

[3:15:53] Okay, so we'll we'll add it and I'll talk to you.

[3:15:57] Yeah, absolutely okay.

[3:15:58] All right.

[3:15:59] So with that, if there's no other agenda items for the future,

[3:16:03] then we move to adjourn with that objection at 9-11.

[3:16:08] 9-11 on July the 24th.

[3:16:12] First, thank you.

[3:16:13] That's a lot.

[3:16:13] This is a lot earlier than I thought we were going to go after 10.

[3:16:16] I really did.

[3:16:17] So thank you all very much.

[3:16:18] do appreciate. You'll have a good evening. We'll see you on Thursday and um...

City Council Regular Meeting - 7/21/2026

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