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Okay.
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Good morning everyone. In the true
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spirit of reconciliation, we acknowledge
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all those who call this land home now
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and for thousands of years in the past.
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May we respect each other and find
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understanding together and recognize the
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benefits this land provides to all of
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us. We call the meeting to order this
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morning at 9:03 a.m.
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Uh we look at our agenda for today. We
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have two time commitments. We have uh
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two public hearings scheduled for 10:00
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a.m. and we have our delegation at 11:30
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for our 2026 bary award recipients.
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Uh moving to the uh formal adoption of
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the agenda. Are there any proposed
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additions, deletions, any edits to the
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agenda as presented?
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» Go, John.
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» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to move
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to adopt the agenda as presented.
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» Thank you, John. John is moved to adopt
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the agenda as presented. Is there any
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discussion? Call question. Those in
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favor? Opposed? That is carried. Uh
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moving down you before you you have the
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county council meeting minutes of July
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16th, 2026. Are there any errors
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submissions? Anything arising from the
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minutes as presented?
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» Eric.
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» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to
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approve the council meeting minutes from
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July 16, 2026 meeting.
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» Thank you, Eric. Eric has moved to
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approve the county council meeting
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minutes of July 20 July 16th 2026 as
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presented. Is there any discussion? Call
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the question. Those in favor opposed.
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That is carried. Uh we can move down
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then in our agenda to our subdivision
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applications. We have five subdivision
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applications for today. We'll start at
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number one. D1 subdivision application
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2026-0291204158
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Alberta Limited. Goring Kalin, Goring,
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Steve.
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» Good morning, council.
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So, as mentioned, we have sub uh five
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subdivision applications before you as
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the subdivision authority. Um we'll
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start with subdivision application
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2026-029.
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Um it is a subdivision of 10.09
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acres um from an 86.7
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acre title for country residential use.
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It let me just pull up the map here. Um
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it is directly west of the town of Noble
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for boundary and north of Highway 519.
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And u with that I will pass it on to
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Steve for recommendations.
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» Good morning. this uh first application
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um just on the uh doorstep there to the
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town of Nobleford on the west side of
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the the town and the CPR tracks there.
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Um as you can see there, they're looking
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to subdivide at the very northern
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portion of their title that 10.09 acres.
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Um technically this is treated as a
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first parcel out subdivision for the
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applicant. Um the all the remnant of the
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quarter section on the east side is uh
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is the municipality for the town of
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Nobleford as well for the uh some road
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and the CPR rail line uh which doesn't
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count towards subdivision um of the
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landowner applicant. Um, one of the
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unique things about this parcel as well
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is there is a small little triangle
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piece at the very south end um, which is
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actually in the town of Nobleford. So
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this parcel, the title itself has a
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split municipal jurisdiction. So even
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though the subdivision is occurring on
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the Lethbridgeidge County side of the
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border, the town of Nobleford also has
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to uh um, do an approval uh, in order
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for it to go through land titles. Um so
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they'll be doing a concurrent um uh
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approval on this as well which I believe
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their meeting is next week uh for the
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town of Noford on it. Um so with that
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this is in the IDP area um with the uh
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town of
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um the that plan basically does allow um
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for a single type of subdivision um to
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come out. um anything additional or
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further um some of the policies in there
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then direct that an area structure plan
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that sort of thing has to be done. Um
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one of the things with this application
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there is um a small little piece on the
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east side running parallel to the tracks
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Lshaped there. Um as you cross the
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tracks um there's a easement access
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rightway that goes up to the north for
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the north land owner and there's a yard
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up there as well. there's access right
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away that goes directly to the west to a
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yard on the west side there. Um so as
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you come across the tracks um that
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little piece will be as Kayn shown there
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will be dedicated as road um in order to
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uh capture it now um so it doesn't get
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lost um if any further subdivision was
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to occur in this area. Um the IDP uh
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does talk about a a road concept plan
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has to be done on this west side uh to
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provide some continuity to the uh north,
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south and the west. Um so that piece
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will be uh that first um piece will be
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in place to cross the tracks. Um the IDP
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did identify this um crossing um as an
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access. Um however, the CPR does uh
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control the access of the crossing
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there. Um the applicants did have to
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obtain a uh CPR crossing agreement uh
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for the CPR for this subdivision in
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order to utilize that uh which they do
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have in writing uh that agreement. Um
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one of the things in reviewing the
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application um the town did request that
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that road just be kind of squared off or
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the line run all the way parallel on the
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west side there. um they have a little
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access that goes into their water
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reservoir parcel there uh to the south
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and and just to kind of keep that um
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squared off and then their area too
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would be included in that. Um so be
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reflected one of the conditions of
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approval.
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Um so with this um the south end of the
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parent parcel does touch uh highway 519.
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Um, so during the circulation, Alberta
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Transportation, uh, since they're using
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internal access has no concerns or
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objections, uh, to the application. Um,
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and there were no other objections or
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concerns, uh, received on it.
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Um, since the package came out, we've
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heard from the other utility companies.
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Um, at this time, nobody requires any
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easements or anything for utilities. Um
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the parcel itself will require a waiver
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to be approved because it is a bare land
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um parcel at the moment at the 10.09
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exceeds the threeacre parcel size. Um
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the request for the parcel as is uh is
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for a couple of reasons. One is that um
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they do want to develop the main part of
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the yard more to the west to be away
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from the CPR tracks. And as well uh the
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parcel designed the way it is will
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follow that existing access right away
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and the driveway that's there for the
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neighbor to the west and their parcel
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will physically touch all the way to the
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east side um to that road dedication to
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the crossing to go across the tracks
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there. Um
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so with that um
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the recommendation in front of you is to
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approve the application.
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Um it does conform to the IED um it is
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in planning area 1B and it conforms to
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those policies as well. Um with the
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waiver granted um to approve the 10
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acres 10.09 acres rather than the three.
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um it otherwise complies with the land
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use bylaw and the subdivision criteria
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and the approval will be based on those
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um five conditions there that um taxes
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paid up to uh paid and up to date a
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development agreement entered into the
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county um where the county can outline
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the terms of that road um that surveyed
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plan be submitted which includes the
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road dedication that extends all the way
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to the south of plan 731HG and parcel B
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which is the town's water reservoir. Um
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the soils analysis would uh be done for
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the private septic system and the town
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of Noford um has to provide a concurrent
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endorsement um for land titles and
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approval as well. Um so with those five
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conditions the recommendation is to
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approve on that basis.
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» Thanks Steve. I'd open up to council
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on.
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» Thank you Mr. Chair. When I'm looking at
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this subdivision um proposal, I just
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want to make sure that I understand it
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correctly. The access right away that is
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going to the parcel on the left to the
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0012977
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that is not that is remaining with the
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me part of the parcel and I'm assuming
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that that would be handled by by some
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sort of a private agreement between the
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land owners that that's not going to be
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turned into a roadway or a driveway.
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» Not at this point. That's correct. will
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remain in place on and it's on title
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currently.
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» Okay. Thank you.
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» Mr. Chair,
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» Could you just tell me again which part
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is the towns? Is it that little square
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there
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» Of of the title?
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» Yeah.
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» At the very south end
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» That piece right there.
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» Oh, so it's actually not part of this
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subdivision.
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» I mean, it's technically part of the
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title, but They're subdivating on the
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county side of the parrot title and
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that's part of the remnant just the
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boundary between the two of you. Um
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where there was an old road plan there
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is just on the other side. So it's
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» So then does Kip Street end at the
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railroad tracks.
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» Yes.
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» And then it becomes a private access or
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access agreement. Okay. That's correct.
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» Thank you.
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» Anything further?
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» Thank you Mr. Chair. Let me zoom in
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» With the land owner.
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» So to clarify for council, uh when this
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application came forward, it was really
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to try to figure out how to allow for a
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country residential subdivision, it
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being the first title out, but also
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rectifying some of the road plan issues
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we have today and trying to make sure
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that we will have road dedicated for
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future subdivisions. Um, so we looked
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back at the IDP and the conceptual road
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network and determined what what amount
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of road needed to be dedicated to make
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sure that other parcels will have access
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if they want to develop in the future
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while still allowing this subdivision to
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go forward. And then Nobleford did
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identify a really good opportunity to um
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square off the triangle so that they
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have a full road plan to access their
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water treatment plant. Um so there was a
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lot of opportunities to to fix existing
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line work.
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Anything
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else?
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Mark.
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» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd move that
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subdivision application number 2026-
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» It is exactly 2 miles um east of the
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city of Lethbridge immediately east of
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the Highway 4. And this is really a
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reconfiguration and consolidation of
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four titles. And so the reconfigured
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titles will be um 998
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178 and 1.7 acres in size. There's a
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substantial number of diagrams that
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Steve will walk through with his uh
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recommendations.
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And on this application, um I guess it
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the easiest way to describe it is by
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looking at at the the images um shown
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the land before and after the um
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basically what the proposal is is that
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it's enabled land swap and title
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reconfiguration between the adjacent
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parcels. Um largely as a result of a
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project driven by the SMR. Um there's a
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portion of former canal rightway in
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there that the SMRD no longer needs.
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They made agreement with the land owners
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um to dispose some of it and consolidate
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it into their lands and part of that too
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is just um realigning the boundaries to
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some of the existing land uses um on the
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property as well along with that. So the
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parcel sizes get adjusted. So um there
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will be approximately 1.7 acres that
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parcel remain as irrigation plan at the
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very west end for the SMID. Um there's a
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yard in there um that uh currently is
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that 3.37
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hectares or 8.25 acres. Um that their
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yard, it's the same land owner that has
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the title to the east, the large
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agriculture parcel. Um and on the air
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photo, you can see that their yard kind
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of extends and there's fenced to the
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back. Um so there's kind of following
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the angle of their existing yard and
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such there and the land outside the
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cultivated land. Um and then there's a
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slight adjustment between the two egg
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pieces um based on the canal and that
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sort of thing. So um it is a a land swap
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and configuration occurring between all
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of them. Um just as you can see there
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where the former and the blue line the
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canal was just how in the end the new
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black line showed the parcel lines there
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just to try to clean that up and
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straighten it out in the end with that
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disposal um of the SMD canal them no
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longer needing it. So um
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so with this application um there um
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there was no um provincial interests uh
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historical resources that type of thing,
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environmental stuff that are affected by
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it. Um the application is in close
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proximity to Highway 4, although um
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transportation doesn't require anything
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and there's no concerns with it. Um the
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uh the parcels themselves um with the
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realignment is that there will be no
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additional titles created in the end. Um
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they start with four titles in the end
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there's still four. It's just different
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sizes a little bit between the two with
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that uh kind of land swap and
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configuration going on. Uh so this does
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align with the county subdivision
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policies for realignment reconfiguration
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of titles. There's no additional titles
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created. Um there's no objections or
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concerns received um since the
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application came out. Um we've now heard
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back um from the utility companies
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additional that didn't respond previous.
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Um there was no easements required. Um
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so on that basis um there's a
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recommendation of approval in front of
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you and that'd be based on the four
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conditions of the taxes being paid. If
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the county requires a development
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agreement that they enter into that with
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the county. Um the third condition is
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the survey final survey. It needs to be
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done based on the approval on that
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reconfiguration and the fourth just had
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talked about any easements there. Um it
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doesn't look like any required but um it
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does align with your reconfiguration
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policy. So the recommendation is to
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approve it.
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» Thank you Steve. I'd open up to council.
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» Thank you Mr. Chair. well complicated in
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the paperwork side of things. It looks
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like it's been well laid out. And um
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with that, I would like to move the
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recommendation that subdivision
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application 2026-077
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be approved subject to the conditions as
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outlined in the draft resolution.
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Thank you, Eric. Eric's move the
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recommendation that subdivision
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application 2026-077
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be approved subject to the conditions
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outlined in the draft resolution. Is
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there any further questions or
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discussion?
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Seeing none, I will call the question.
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Those in favor? Opposed? That is
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carried.
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» Uh, third subdivision for today.
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Subdivision application 2026-085.
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Kaylin,
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» Thank you. Um, so subdivision
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application 2026-085.
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It's within a portion of northeast
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quarter 11821 west of the 4th.
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Here is the map. So it is located um one
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mile west of Highway 4 and a half a mile
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east of the city of Lethbridge. Uh the
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proposal before you is to subdivide a
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6.83 83 acre title from the existing 79
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acres and this falls under the legacy
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yard country residential use under our
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land use bylaw. And with that, I'll pass
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on to Steve for recommendations.
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» So, this application is I guess your uh
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second at the county here since the
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policy went in on the legacy yard site.
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Um this application was made on that
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basis. The uh parent title itself has
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existed since 1952.
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Um, the property has been in the same
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family for multiple generations. Um,
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there's still the older home that was
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built in 1950s on the property. Um, and
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then there's a second newer home on the
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west side of the parcel that was built
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around 1996.
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Um, that uh is on the west side. Um, so
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the application, as you can see there,
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they're taking the yard out of the
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northeast corner along the road. Uh,
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there's a 72.65 acre residual. Um there
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is an abandoned gas well on this
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property, but it's located um to the
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southwest on the agricultural portion
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and the existing yard and the
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subdivision coming out um meets the
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setback distances uh to that abandoned
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gas well. So there's no uh concerns with
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that. Um the application is in the IDP
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area um with the um city of Lethbridge
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um with the legacy yard site policy
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being put in and the or the city was
[22:28]
circulated at that time. Um this
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application conforms to the county's
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bylaw subdivision criteria and on that
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basis uh the city of Lethbridge uh has
[22:37]
no concerns and did not object to the
[22:39]
application. Um as well it is within the
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referral distance of AT and AT also has
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no concerns uh since uh their
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infrastructure roads aren't being
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impacted by it and they take access off
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that uh local county road.
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Um so this application um does meet the
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legacy yard site um criteria it would
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appear. Um you as council have to be
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satisfied with that. Um but it does
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appear the yards has existed for at
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least 50 years or more and um the um
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it's been in the same family.
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So the recommendation in front of you uh
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is to approve the application. Um on
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this application there would be the
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applicability of a municipal reserve
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payment to the county. Um that market
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value did come in at 55,116
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per acre for the municipal reserve
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payment on that 6.83 83 acre yard
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portion only. Um it's not applicable on
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the other agricultural residual piece.
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Um so with the payment of municipal
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reserve um the other four conditions
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there with the taxes development
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agreement uh the final survey plan um
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and then the fourth referred to the
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utility easements um we've since heard
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back by from ATCO and foris and um they
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don't require anything at this point.
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Um, so with that, the recommendation is
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um to approve
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um the application as applied for.
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» Thank you, Steve. I'd open up to
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council.
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» Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, just one
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quick, how many dollars an acre did you
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say it was valued at?
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» It came in at 55,116
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per acre.
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» Okay. With that, I would move uh
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subdivision application 2026-085
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with the four conditions. Thank you,
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Lauren. Lauren has move the
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recommendation that subdivision
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application 2026-085
[24:42]
be approved sub conditions for the
[24:44]
reasons outlined in the draft
[24:45]
resolution. Is there any further
[24:47]
discussion? Go ahead.
[24:50]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. not so much
[24:52]
question or whatever, but just a
[24:54]
statement on it that I think the the
[24:56]
land assessment is plenty high on it uh
[25:00]
due to location and existing land around
[25:03]
it. Thank you.
[25:06]
Anything else?
[25:08]
I'll call the question. Those in favor?
[25:10]
Opposed? That carries.
[25:13]
Our fourth subdivision application 2026-
[25:17]
0-086.
[25:27]
Okay. Thank you, council. Um, so
[25:29]
subdivision application 2026-0-086.
[25:33]
It's a portion of the southeast corner
[25:37]
quarter 10 1121 west of the 4th. It is
[25:41]
located a mile north of the town of
[25:43]
Picturebutes.
[25:45]
So, right there. Um, and just west of
[25:48]
Highway 25. The proposal before you is
[25:52]
to res-split a title, which is 5.38
[25:54]
acres into two titles being 2.48 and 2.8
[25:59]
respectively for country residential
[26:01]
use. And with that, I'll pass it on to
[26:03]
Steve for recommendations.
[26:06]
So, this application in front of you is
[26:07]
a uh res-split of an existing title, 20
[26:10]
acres less in size. Um that the county
[26:12]
has a subdivision policy um
[26:15]
uh to enable such. Um as you can see
[26:19]
maybe in the photo there, they have a
[26:20]
developed yard in the north side with a
[26:22]
uh dwelling on there. They're looking to
[26:25]
subdivide the south portion. Um that
[26:28]
south portion a little bit larger at 2.8
[26:31]
acres. It will include on the west
[26:33]
perimeter or sorry the east perimeter I
[26:36]
should say um a a panhandle that goes up
[26:40]
to the north end where the existing h
[26:42]
access is that goes out to highway 25 um
[26:46]
to provide direct physical access um to
[26:48]
the uh that south parcel. Um so as part
[26:52]
of the application there will be a
[26:54]
little uh service road dedication at
[26:56]
that very northeast corner there a
[26:58]
little uh 20x 20 box um at the access
[27:02]
point there. Um that is a requirement of
[27:05]
Alberta transportation. Um they don't
[27:08]
require and won't take service road
[27:10]
along the whole um east perimeter there.
[27:13]
Uh because as you can see the the parcel
[27:16]
pretty much dead ends at the south end.
[27:17]
it runs into the LNID
[27:20]
um into uh reservoir land um at the
[27:23]
south end there. Uh so there's uh no
[27:26]
need no opportunity for additional
[27:28]
subdivision or access at that south end
[27:30]
there. Um that this last parcel here is
[27:33]
it would be kind of like uh the uh end
[27:36]
of the uh the street there so to speak.
[27:38]
Um so with the road dedication being
[27:42]
provided, Alberta Transportation has no
[27:44]
objections to the application and has
[27:47]
authorized that the county could u
[27:49]
proceed to approve it. Um as part of the
[27:53]
referral out um it is just outside the
[27:55]
IDP area with um town of Picture but um
[28:01]
or sorry it is just within the boundary
[28:03]
but it's at the very uh kind of north
[28:04]
perimeter of that IDP. Um this type of
[28:07]
subdivision is allowed in the IDP as a
[28:09]
respplit under the county's policy uh
[28:12]
provided the uh policy is conformed with
[28:15]
um in reviewing this application. There
[28:17]
are a couple confined feeding operations
[28:19]
to the west of this. Um it does meet um
[28:23]
all the MDS's to the operations on the
[28:26]
west and northwest of it. Um so lying
[28:30]
outside the applicable MDS minimum
[28:32]
distance separation area. Uh so there's
[28:34]
no conflict there.
[28:36]
Um
[28:38]
as part of this application, Aqu gas uh
[28:40]
was the one utility company that does
[28:42]
require an easement for a gas line that
[28:44]
runs through there. Um so with that um
[28:49]
it does conform to your respplit um
[28:51]
policy. The access um will be dealt with
[28:54]
um through the condition there of
[28:55]
providing that service road that shared
[28:57]
approach kind of there at the northeast.
[29:00]
Um there was no objections or concerns
[29:04]
received on it. Um so the recommendation
[29:07]
is to approve. Um there is also the
[29:10]
applicability of municipal reserve
[29:12]
payment on this application on the
[29:15]
parent title which would be the 5.3
[29:17]
acres. Um that value came in at 66,037
[29:23]
per acre. Um the other conditions be uh
[29:27]
the six outline there. taxes paid the
[29:29]
development agreement entered into uh to
[29:32]
address the road and the access um the
[29:34]
soils analysis be undertaken for that
[29:37]
south 2.8 8 8 acre lot. Um their final
[29:40]
plan of survey be submitted. Um that the
[29:43]
ACO um and Ford has also requested
[29:46]
utility easement be addressed through
[29:48]
condition number five and that that road
[29:51]
dedication um has to be um signed off
[29:54]
and approved by Alberta Transportation
[29:57]
um as part of the final endorsement
[29:58]
which is addressed through condition
[30:00]
number six. Um so with those six
[30:02]
conditions and the municipal reserve
[30:04]
payment um with those being applied the
[30:07]
recommendation is to approve as applied
[30:10]
for.
[30:11]
» Thank you Steve. Thank you Kayla. I
[30:12]
would open it up to council.
[30:14]
» Good job.
[30:16]
» Thank you Mr. Chair. Seems like a very
[30:18]
straightforward um split of a parcel uh
[30:22]
in an area that is heavily fragmented.
[30:24]
Anyway, so I'd like to move that
[30:26]
subdivision application 2026-086
[30:30]
be approved subject to the conditions as
[30:32]
outlined in the draft resolution. Thank
[30:35]
you, John. John has moved the
[30:36]
subdivision application 2026-86
[30:40]
be approved subject to the conditions as
[30:41]
outlined in the draft resolution. Is
[30:43]
there any further discussion?
[30:47]
Call question. Those in favor?
[30:50]
That is carried.
[30:52]
And our final subdivision application
[30:53]
for today, uh, number five, subdivision
[30:56]
application 2026-087.
[31:00]
Kaylin,
[31:02]
» Thank you, council. So, subdivision
[31:03]
application 2026-087.
[31:07]
It is within the north half 13821 west
[31:11]
of the 4th and southwest quarter 24821
[31:15]
west of the 4th.
[31:19]
So again, it's backlo
[31:22]
immediately east of the city by one mile
[31:24]
and it's adjacent to Highway 4. Um the
[31:27]
proposal before you today is to
[31:30]
subdivide a fragmented quarter and
[31:32]
create a 76 acre agricultural title um
[31:36]
from the current 110 acre um title. And
[31:40]
with that, I will pass it on to Steve
[31:42]
for recommendations.
[31:43]
this one.
[31:46]
» Yeah, this application uh the final one
[31:48]
here is to um basically um divide the
[31:53]
what's left of the quarter section on
[31:55]
the west side of highway 4 and the CPR
[31:58]
rail line um into the two agricultural
[32:02]
portions. Um the south is the uh
[32:07]
cultivated u vacant agricultural land
[32:10]
portion at the 76.57 acres. The north
[32:14]
portion will be the remnant of what's
[32:15]
left in that title. Um that will be a
[32:19]
title in two parts and currently has to
[32:21]
remain that way. Um just the way the
[32:24]
canal was done with this title and the
[32:28]
um CPR rail line in Highway 4. Um and
[32:32]
there's a irrigation canal um on the
[32:34]
west side as well. That little northern
[32:36]
triangle piece is basically a physical
[32:40]
island. Um it doesn't touch any road at
[32:42]
all. Um so that has to remain with the
[32:46]
portion just south of it. Um so it's
[32:48]
what we call a title in two parts. So
[32:50]
it's a legally it is one parcel. Um they
[32:53]
do kind of cross that canal to get in
[32:55]
there. Uh the canal on the west side. Um
[32:58]
but it there's no uh legal physical
[33:01]
point where it it touches any public
[33:03]
roadway at all. Um and that's the only
[33:06]
way to get in there is by crossing the
[33:08]
the canal. Um
[33:11]
so this application um it is um an
[33:16]
agricultural uh split. the um it is
[33:19]
within the IDP area obviously along uh
[33:22]
close to the city there. Um it's just uh
[33:26]
beside Steuart Siding. Um the city has
[33:29]
no objections or concerns to the
[33:31]
proposal um as the applicants have
[33:33]
applied for and for it being an
[33:36]
agricultural subdivision. Um as well
[33:39]
Alberta Transportation has uh no
[33:41]
concerns um not taking any direct access
[33:44]
to Highway 4 there. Um
[33:48]
so the with this application um
[33:52]
there was uh during the circulation um
[33:55]
Aqu gas did request um a utility
[33:59]
easement for the south piece there where
[34:01]
they have a gas line running through um
[34:04]
that's currently unprotected. Um so
[34:06]
other than that um it is um does meet
[34:10]
the policies as a as a fragmented title
[34:14]
um being split into the two agricultural
[34:16]
portions. Um and with that I think the
[34:19]
conditions there uh the five outlaid in
[34:22]
front of you with the taxes a
[34:24]
development agreement into it if the
[34:25]
county needs it. Um they would uh need a
[34:28]
surveyor sketch just to confirm where
[34:30]
they want to put that property line
[34:32]
which is close to the existing dwelling
[34:33]
and yard uh that there's no
[34:35]
encroachments and it is able to meet the
[34:38]
setbacks to the dwelling and such. Um
[34:41]
and that the ACO easement as a fifth
[34:43]
condition be applied. Um so with those
[34:46]
five conditions um the recommendation is
[34:49]
to approve um as applied for.
[34:56]
» Thanks Steve.
[34:57]
» I would open up to councel.
[35:01]
» John.
[35:03]
» Thank you Mr. Chair. When I first saw
[35:05]
this I was trying to figure out why that
[35:06]
that north parcel was
[35:09]
sort of to be remained in there and why
[35:11]
it wasn't subdivided out. But now I get
[35:14]
it. there's absolutely no access to it
[35:16]
because of way the way the railroad and
[35:18]
and the canals run. So, I appreciate
[35:21]
that explanation. And um seeing that,
[35:24]
I'd like to move that subdivision
[35:26]
application 2026-087
[35:30]
be approved subject to the conditions as
[35:32]
outlined in the draft resolution.
[35:35]
Thank you, John. John has moved that
[35:36]
subdivision application 2026-087
[35:40]
be approved subject to the conditions
[35:42]
outlined in the draft resolution. Is
[35:43]
there any further discussion from
[35:47]
seeing none question
[35:51]
that's carried? Thank you. Thank you.
[35:53]
Thank you.
[36:17]
Uh why don't we move in our agenda to
[36:20]
item F uh department reports F1.2
[36:24]
uh development permit application 26
[36:27]
uh D0134.
[36:32]
» Good morning Jessica. Good morning
[36:33]
everyone council. Um so in front of you
[36:37]
here today is development permit
[36:39]
application 26-d0134
[36:42]
for Vanderhoff. I'm just going to pull
[36:45]
it up here. So this particular
[36:47]
application
[36:49]
um in front of you is for an addition to
[36:52]
an accessory building uh to operate a
[36:54]
powersports business in Iron Springs.
[36:57]
Um, you may recognize it from last year
[37:01]
as we did have I apologize there's no
[37:04]
map. Um, we did have an application come
[37:06]
in for this exact use um in early 2025.
[37:11]
Um, that application was approved. This
[37:13]
is the same applicant. They are just
[37:15]
wishing to enlarge the building by an
[37:17]
additional about 500 square ft. Um so
[37:22]
the proposed use is located on a parcel
[37:24]
zoned Hamlet direct control for which
[37:26]
council is the development authority. Um
[37:30]
so the use of the existing shop as a
[37:32]
power sports business as I mentioned was
[37:34]
previously approved by county council on
[37:35]
the property. The the actual addition
[37:38]
footprint beyond what was approved last
[37:41]
year is an additional 525 square feet
[37:43]
for a total addition uh footprint of
[37:46]
1575 square feet.
[37:51]
Um, under the land use bylaw 24-07, the
[37:54]
commercial use is considered suitable by
[37:56]
council um is a permitted use under the
[37:59]
Hamlet Direct Control District. Um, for
[38:03]
we we did receive uh comments back from
[38:05]
Alberta Transportation since um this
[38:09]
report was initially drafted. U they've
[38:11]
come back stating that uh they are
[38:13]
exempt from a roadside development
[38:15]
permit. um that is listed as an
[38:17]
informative on the drafted development
[38:18]
permit um before you. Um additionally,
[38:22]
the development permit draft lists that
[38:24]
the previous development permit be
[38:26]
rescended and that the applicant is to
[38:30]
submit a grading and drainage plan um
[38:33]
for approval by the county prior to
[38:35]
beginning construction. Um at which time
[38:37]
once it's approved, they would have two
[38:39]
years uh to to complete that grading.
[38:42]
Um, for these reasons, the
[38:44]
recommendation here is that development
[38:46]
permit 26-d0134
[38:48]
be approved as drafted. Um, the
[38:52]
alternatives are that county council may
[38:54]
refuse the development permit
[38:55]
application. This would be at your
[38:57]
discretion on the basis that the
[38:59]
addition could be seen as an unsuitable
[39:01]
use and uh the financial impact is that
[39:04]
any future development on the parcel is
[39:05]
subject to a commercial industrial tax
[39:07]
rate. Thank you.
[39:09]
» Thank you, Jess. I'd open it up to
[39:12]
council for any questions or discussion.
[39:15]
John,
[39:17]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. When I look at the
[39:19]
U proposal on the recommendations, we're
[39:21]
saying that um that the proposed
[39:25]
addition increases the previously
[39:26]
approved additional footprint by 525
[39:28]
square ft. But when I go and look down
[39:30]
on the proposed plan,
[39:34]
» This plan,
[39:35]
» It's saying a proposed 45 by35 addition.
[39:39]
So that would give us an additional
[39:43]
» 1,575
[39:45]
square feet,
[39:45]
» Right? Yeah. Okay. So that was just a
[39:47]
typo then. Um,
[39:48]
» No. So what it's saying is that last
[39:50]
year we approved an addition for just
[39:52]
over 1,000 square f feet. The applicant
[39:54]
wishes to expand it further. So instead
[39:56]
of the thousand, it will be just over
[39:57]
1500 total.
[39:58]
» I'm less confused now. Okay. Thank you.
[40:00]
I was trying to figure out where the
[40:01]
math was not working in my head. So I
[40:03]
appreciate that. Um, thank you. That's
[40:06]
all I had.
[40:11]
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, and uh, I I
[40:15]
think it fits within its area and
[40:17]
existing business that's uh, doing well
[40:19]
and has a place in the community. I'd
[40:21]
like to move the recommendation that
[40:24]
development permit 26-d0134
[40:27]
be approved as drafted.
[40:29]
» Thank you, Eric. Eric has moved that
[40:31]
development permit 26-D0134
[40:34]
be approved as drafted. Is there any
[40:37]
further discussion?
[40:38]
Call question. Those in favor post. That
[40:41]
is carried.
[40:42]
» Thank you.
[40:43]
» Thank you, Jessica.
[40:46]
» Uh why don't we now move up uh one item
[40:49]
uh department reports F1 uh development
[40:52]
and infrastructure F1.1
[40:54]
bylaw number 26-016 Leers County
[40:57]
subdivision authority bylaw.
[41:17]
Okay. Thanks. So, thank you, council.
[41:20]
Bylaw 26-
[41:22]
bylaw 26-016.
[41:24]
It is the Lethbridge County Subdivision
[41:26]
Authority bylaw. Um, we discussed it
[41:29]
last meeting and only passed first
[41:31]
reading and I'm actually here to follow
[41:33]
up on a few questions council did have.
[41:36]
Um, so to start with, I will run through
[41:38]
the subdivision authority bylaw and
[41:40]
what's being proposed. Um, so the
[41:43]
municipal government act requires every
[41:44]
municipality to have a subdivision
[41:46]
authority bylaw. Um, Lethbridge County
[41:48]
has relied on bylaw number 1103 since
[41:51]
1995, which is dedicated council as a
[41:54]
subdivision authority. Um I think since
[41:56]
1995 the Lethbridge County has faced
[41:58]
substantial change in uh planning and
[42:01]
development pressures and we do receive
[42:03]
quite a few applications every year. Um
[42:05]
it is reaching 40 applications um
[42:08]
annually that are coming before council.
[42:11]
Um so just practicality of what our
[42:14]
application volumes are today and
[42:17]
differing u planning administration
[42:19]
practices and how this authority can be
[42:21]
delegated and really placing routine
[42:24]
decisions before council is how we are
[42:26]
managing it today and um reflecting on
[42:29]
modern practices where routine decisions
[42:31]
are um delegated to administration.
[42:33]
Um so the bylaw proposed before you
[42:36]
today if I go to it
[42:39]
it's really meant to identify um a
[42:43]
two-tier model. Um basically the
[42:45]
subdivision authority is delegated to
[42:48]
the director of development and
[42:50]
infrastructure where applications are
[42:52]
considered routine. So examples when
[42:54]
we're looking at agricultural um
[42:58]
title reconfigurations, the first
[43:00]
parcels out um when a area has already
[43:03]
been resoneed for group country
[43:04]
residential by council um subdividing
[43:07]
those out into the two acre appropriate
[43:09]
lot size that complies with area
[43:10]
structure plan. Like those are the
[43:12]
examples of very routine applications
[43:14]
that we're seeing that the the director
[43:16]
would be the authority. Um this bylaw is
[43:19]
indicating that a decision would all
[43:23]
would be rendered by council in very c
[43:25]
certain circumstances. Um so if the
[43:28]
applicant requests that the application
[43:30]
go before council. So this probably
[43:32]
would be in a circumstance where
[43:33]
administration and the applicant don't
[43:35]
agree maybe we're in a circumstance of a
[43:37]
refusal. They may ask for it to be heard
[43:40]
by council before the subdivision
[43:42]
authority makes a decision. The second
[43:44]
is if there is any referring agency. So,
[43:47]
Alberta Transportation, a school board,
[43:49]
if any of those referring agencies
[43:51]
object the application, it would come
[43:53]
before council instead of administration
[43:55]
making the decision.
[43:57]
Um, if there's any variance or waiver in
[44:00]
the application, if a statutory plan is
[44:02]
not being applied that council approved,
[44:05]
any circumstance where um a
[44:07]
consideration outside the land use
[44:09]
bylaw, that would have to come before
[44:10]
council. So, if you recall, there was
[44:12]
one application today um that we heard
[44:14]
that required a very slight waiver that
[44:16]
would have had to come before council if
[44:18]
this is the bylaw we're considering.
[44:21]
Um if there's any if the director
[44:23]
determines that there's any significant
[44:25]
policy, technical, community impacts,
[44:26]
they would have the discretion to bring
[44:28]
it before council instead of them making
[44:29]
a decision. Um and then if council
[44:32]
passed any resolution or bylaw that
[44:34]
dedicated subdivisional authority for a
[44:36]
specific area. So, if we look at some
[44:38]
specific subdivisions in the county that
[44:41]
in the past we've made decisions about
[44:43]
um McDermott SE section 26 where like
[44:45]
we've put very prescriptive land use
[44:47]
policies in place. Those could be
[44:49]
circumstances where council would make
[44:50]
the decision at a long-range planning
[44:52]
perspective that I want to continue to
[44:54]
be hearing the the subdivisions coming
[44:56]
before us. So, those are the kind of
[44:58]
prescriptive cases where council would
[45:00]
hear the application even though you're
[45:01]
de delegating it to the director.
[45:04]
Um, and so I just want to roll back up.
[45:07]
No, in the council report, I did give
[45:10]
you an outline of application
[45:12]
statistics. I pulled applications since
[45:14]
2020 um to through 2025 and then 2026
[45:18]
year to date. So, we've received 187
[45:22]
applications over five years. Those have
[45:24]
all came before council. It's averaged
[45:27]
about 31 applications per year, but in
[45:29]
recent years, it's been more like 35 to
[45:31]
40.
[45:32]
We have had 16 um year to date. I know
[45:35]
there's currently six applications with
[45:37]
orus um under review. So there is six
[45:40]
more coming. Um during this period there
[45:43]
was only three applications refused and
[45:46]
subsequently I only found one
[45:48]
subdivision authority appealed um which
[45:50]
went to Lapert.
[45:52]
Uh 21 of the applications were
[45:55]
considered for waiverss. 18 of those
[45:56]
were approved of the 21.
[45:59]
And in terms of processing time, because
[46:01]
I think this is the biggest impact that
[46:02]
we will see if if authority is
[46:04]
delegated. Um so from an application
[46:07]
being received to deem complete,
[46:09]
currently the county averages about tw
[46:11]
12 days. Um the municipal government act
[46:14]
requires that we're doing that within 20
[46:16]
days. Um complete to a decision. So once
[46:20]
we deem it complete, we do the
[46:21]
circulations, draft up the decision,
[46:23]
schedule it for council, we're at 56
[46:26]
days. Um, so the municipal government
[46:28]
act requirement is 60 days. So yes,
[46:30]
we're hitting the target, but I want to
[46:33]
say one in five applications are taking
[46:35]
more than 60 days. So about 20% of
[46:38]
applications are exceeding the municipal
[46:40]
government act requirements and we're
[46:42]
having to ask the applicant for an
[46:43]
extension to get it before council.
[46:46]
Um, from decision to endorsement, the
[46:49]
average is 160 days. This is a really
[46:51]
hard one to nail down and it's because
[46:53]
it's a a lot under the control of the
[46:55]
applicant meeting the conditions that
[46:57]
are being set. Um so different personal
[46:59]
circumstances happen, there's delays,
[47:01]
financial delays, like that is really
[47:04]
out of our control, but I just wanted to
[47:06]
give you a ballpark of where we're at.
[47:08]
Um there is applications taking a number
[47:11]
of years to actually get endorsed to
[47:13]
land titles because meeting conditions
[47:15]
is is challenging.
[47:17]
Um, so then I want to talk about the
[47:20]
types of applications. I kind of gave
[47:22]
you a breakdown the best I could. So
[47:24]
about 25% of our applications are
[47:26]
agricultural reconfigurations. They're
[47:29]
very routine. 55% are rural egg existing
[47:33]
um farmards or bareland farm farmsteads.
[47:37]
Routine again. 8% are that group country
[47:40]
residential where you've already heard a
[47:42]
previous decision. So you've heard a
[47:44]
resoning or an area structure plan
[47:46]
before you and the subdivision is just
[47:48]
that subsequent step. And then 12% is
[47:51]
commercial industrial. Again, usually
[47:53]
there is a council decision related to
[47:54]
resoning or area structure plan at some
[47:56]
point in time. So it has been before
[47:58]
council before.
[48:00]
Um so I hope that information clarifies
[48:02]
the questions that we had last meeting,
[48:04]
but I'm more than happy to answer some
[48:05]
more questions.
[48:10]
Any questions?
[48:15]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, I am opposed
[48:17]
to this. I believe the council should
[48:20]
remain the subdivision authority and I
[48:22]
would agree that there are some
[48:24]
exemptions to that. I think we had a
[48:26]
perfect example today where you
[48:28]
reconfigured the property lines out by
[48:30]
Steuart siding. Uh both cases were
[48:34]
fairly simple. I think both of those are
[48:36]
more than adequately handled by
[48:38]
administration. However, I do feel it's
[48:41]
part of our duty as a municipally
[48:43]
elected counselor to do uh act as a
[48:47]
subdivision authority.
[48:49]
Ultimately, regardless of whether
[48:52]
administration is the authority or we
[48:53]
are, council is still responsible to the
[48:56]
rateayers. So, we will hear about it one
[48:58]
way or another.
[49:00]
I think the current process is working
[49:03]
and it's fitting in the MGA timelines
[49:06]
and uh according to all we've heard
[49:09]
before once you take over from Old Man
[49:12]
River uh you will be able to speed up
[49:14]
the process and should narrow down the
[49:16]
times.
[49:18]
So I think uh that it should speed up
[49:20]
and be more than a more than adequate
[49:23]
time. Thank you.
[49:26]
Thank you, Lauren. John,
[49:30]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I would e echo
[49:32]
the statements that councelor Hickeyi
[49:34]
has said. I believe that it is uh
[49:38]
it is our responsibility as a public
[49:40]
facing figures to deal with public
[49:42]
facing decisions like this. Um and you
[49:46]
know looking at the the load in terms of
[49:50]
the applications that have have been put
[49:52]
in over the years um you know I I don't
[49:56]
see this as being an extremely
[49:59]
burdensome process as it is. We're
[50:01]
meeting the do the timelines within the
[50:03]
MGA and appreciate that you know at 20%
[50:06]
of the time there may have to be an
[50:08]
extension for one reason or another. Um,
[50:12]
in in terms of, you know, if we're
[50:14]
looking at the decision to force at 160
[50:16]
days, well, that really doesn't factor
[50:18]
into this decision- making process
[50:19]
whatsoever in my mind because that is
[50:22]
something that is uh related to
[50:25]
information or or you know, how fast the
[50:29]
applicant actually gets his stuff
[50:31]
together and gets put into place. Um, I
[50:34]
I do agree that things like a simple
[50:37]
property realignment would be something
[50:39]
that we wouldn't necessarily need to
[50:42]
see. Um, but anything more complicated
[50:45]
than that, I would still like to be to
[50:48]
see come in front of council and council
[50:50]
be the ultimate decision.
[50:53]
Thank you, John.
[50:55]
just maybe for the benefit of of Lauren
[50:58]
and John that weren't here at the last
[50:59]
meeting. Um I think we anticipated some
[51:02]
of the comments that you would make
[51:03]
today and I think that was um part of
[51:06]
the reason why council at the time
[51:08]
decided to push this to today. So I
[51:10]
would look around at your fellow
[51:11]
counselors and just acknowledge the fact
[51:13]
that I think we did see this being
[51:15]
something that we felt was something
[51:17]
that should come to council and for
[51:19]
further discussion with a full albeit
[51:21]
Kevin not being here today. um group of
[51:24]
council here. Um I think the
[51:27]
conversation that we had at the time was
[51:29]
perhaps different. Um and I guess maybe
[51:32]
I'll just speak from my perspective. I I
[51:34]
I guess I see our role differently than
[51:36]
maybe John and Lauren do in the sense
[51:38]
that um I don't feel that it's council's
[51:41]
role to necessarily face public facing
[51:44]
issues. I think it's our job as council
[51:46]
to put in good policy, solid policy,
[51:50]
good bylaws, and then react to those
[51:53]
living documents in a way that I think
[51:56]
stewards a better future for the
[51:57]
community. I don't think it's
[51:58]
necessarily our job to be in the mud on
[52:01]
every single decision.
[52:03]
I know I I will give this credit, this
[52:06]
council credit. I think we do a good job
[52:08]
of of staying the course, but I have
[52:09]
seen in the past when you have
[52:10]
counselors talking about doing it for
[52:13]
their guy or their people, and I think
[52:15]
that's a slippery slope. I think at the
[52:17]
end of the day, we're elected to
[52:19]
represent all of the municipality,
[52:21]
whether they live in our division or
[52:23]
not. So, I do think there's a bit of a a
[52:25]
balancing act there. And and I and I do
[52:27]
think it's opened up interpretation how
[52:29]
you see your role. I don't think there's
[52:31]
a right way or a wrong way. I just think
[52:32]
that maybe we see it differently. Um,
[52:35]
Kayn, I thought with some of the
[52:37]
comments we had last time, I appreciate
[52:40]
some of the information you brought back
[52:41]
and and I would again counter both
[52:44]
Lauren and John and that I think what
[52:46]
you're saying and what you where you
[52:48]
have concern I think has been addressed
[52:50]
within the draft and that, you know,
[52:53]
there there's the opportunity for every
[52:54]
applicant to come before council. Um, I
[52:57]
think it takes away some of those maybe
[52:59]
rubber stamp ones, which I would
[53:00]
suggest, um, by and large every
[53:03]
subdivision application we had today.
[53:05]
Um, and I think as Kayn outlined, one
[53:08]
perhaps. Um, but I still feel that was I
[53:11]
would have felt comfortable with uh with
[53:13]
staff making that call. Um, yeah, I I
[53:17]
guess it just comes down to what you as
[53:18]
council want. Um, how you see us moving
[53:21]
forward and evolving and I just think
[53:23]
this is a further step in that
[53:25]
evolution. Um yeah, those are just my
[53:28]
thoughts. Eric,
[53:31]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um
[53:35]
yeah, read it the first time, read it
[53:37]
the second time. Still, uh don't have
[53:39]
any
[53:41]
solid um
[53:43]
uh yay or nay on it. There's there's
[53:45]
definitely uh apprehensions on to not
[53:49]
current, but future that at some point
[53:51]
down the road. Um the whatifs are
[53:54]
definitely
[53:55]
dark and lurking on um on things going
[53:59]
not in a positive direction. Uh I I
[54:03]
think I can comfortably draw consensus
[54:06]
that um there's room for improvement and
[54:09]
as council we can we can be part of that
[54:14]
uh to to help some of this out. So, what
[54:17]
I'd like to propose today is that we
[54:20]
proceed with a second reading and um and
[54:24]
then once again uh those that are
[54:27]
opposed um state the
[54:32]
state the the direct concerns and
[54:37]
see that they're they're not being
[54:38]
addressed. I a bunch of them are being
[54:42]
addressed I think by by reading it
[54:44]
comprehensively and then there's a few
[54:46]
that I think could also be looked at a
[54:49]
little bit further. So that's my
[54:51]
proposal that I'd like to move the
[54:55]
bylaw. Let me pull this up.
[54:58]
that bylaw 26-016
[55:02]
being the subdivision authority bylaw be
[55:04]
read for a second time
[55:08]
with the idea that we table the third
[55:12]
and make sure that we have it fully
[55:14]
fleshed out. Thank you.
[55:17]
» Thank you, Eric. So, Eric has moved that
[55:20]
by 26-016 being the subdivision
[55:23]
authority bylaw be read a second time.
[55:26]
I'd open it again up for any discussion
[55:28]
or comments. Go Mark.
[55:30]
» Sorry, just one comment. I don't see
[55:32]
this as a as a threat to the authority
[55:34]
or the control of council. I see this as
[55:37]
a compromise. It gives council still we
[55:39]
have, you know, we still have the final
[55:41]
discretion. If there's an issue,
[55:43]
residents can bring it forward to us and
[55:45]
council can oversee that and and address
[55:47]
that and adjudicate it. I think it's
[55:51]
moving forward as we've progressed and
[55:52]
as things are changing. Um I this is
[55:55]
just another piece of of of of the um
[55:58]
county moving forward and being more
[56:00]
proactive and progressive. Um so I
[56:03]
understand Lauren and John's concern and
[56:06]
uh you know given the history and we've
[56:07]
always done it that way. Um but I think
[56:10]
moving forward
[56:12]
um you know there's room for for change
[56:14]
and improvement and I don't see anything
[56:16]
threatening in here. Um so I I would you
[56:19]
know I'm support I would support it. Um,
[56:22]
so we can move on to the motion.
[56:28]
» Yeah, go ahead. Cool.
[56:30]
» I'm not going to speak for or against
[56:32]
it. Just a couple points of clarity. Um,
[56:35]
one thing that we tried to balance in in
[56:39]
this is a change like this provides I
[56:43]
mean like was already mentioned the
[56:44]
applicant the right to bring it before
[56:45]
council anyways. It would also allow for
[56:48]
council to be the appeal.
[56:50]
um board for subdivisions which provides
[56:55]
a different oversight and one that
[56:57]
provides more contextual awareness of
[56:59]
the county and some of the land use
[57:01]
conflicts and the actual bylaws and
[57:03]
policies that are in place. And so we're
[57:06]
trying to walk that balancing act of
[57:09]
council maintains oversight. The flip
[57:11]
side of that concern for me is I've been
[57:15]
here three years. I can think of one
[57:16]
subdivision that council amended and
[57:19]
maybe there's more, but I can only
[57:20]
recall one subdivision recommendation
[57:22]
that was even amended from what was
[57:25]
proposed in three years.
[57:27]
Now,
[57:29]
at the same time, we get a lot more
[57:30]
feedback on development permit
[57:32]
applications and other things that
[57:33]
council doesn't have the full context
[57:34]
on, and it's an information gap because
[57:37]
you're not in the weeds on those. So,
[57:38]
it's like, well, what about this and
[57:40]
what about this? But I have yet to see
[57:42]
something that has been a a gross change
[57:45]
in direction from what's been
[57:47]
recommended. And so I think for us the
[57:48]
line that
[57:50]
the challenge I have I think this
[57:52]
provides a better customer service and
[57:54]
maintains council oversight. The
[57:56]
challenge I have on the other side is
[57:57]
you're going to have less context on all
[57:59]
of those things until they come or if
[58:01]
they come before council. So it is a bit
[58:03]
of a like trust that we can hand that
[58:06]
off. And so I know Kaylin tried to walk
[58:08]
this with this bylaw, but if there's
[58:10]
things you guys want to see differently,
[58:11]
we I'm it cuts both ways. I just wanted
[58:14]
to put it out there that we're not
[58:16]
pushing one one way or the other. We're
[58:17]
trying to set the stage for the
[58:19]
strategic plan and some of the other
[58:20]
things we've heard from council. So
[58:25]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um I I appreciate
[58:28]
uh Reef Campbell's comments about, you
[58:31]
know, the fact that that this particular
[58:33]
council has been very good about making
[58:36]
sure that it, you know, we're the
[58:38]
perspective that we give isn't about
[58:40]
helping out one of our friends or our
[58:43]
rate payers. Um, but I also think that,
[58:45]
you know, we have to take the and that's
[58:47]
taking the people out of the the
[58:49]
situation in the sense that it can be a
[58:51]
slippery slope and there are there may
[58:53]
have been times in the past and there
[58:54]
may be times in the future where where
[58:57]
that may be an issue, but that also goes
[59:01]
with the the people in the
[59:03]
administration that we have right now. I
[59:04]
have the utmost confidence in in um you
[59:08]
know our administration and how they
[59:10]
handle things but that may not
[59:13]
necessarily be the case down the road as
[59:15]
well. So you know I think that that that
[59:17]
comment can be sort of can work on both
[59:20]
sides of it. you know, when we're we're
[59:23]
talking about if there's a change in the
[59:25]
individuals, I I still, you know, my
[59:29]
opinion on this is that uh that, you
[59:32]
know, we're involved in this and we see
[59:35]
this and even though there isn't
[59:37]
necessarily a lot of uh denials or or
[59:41]
massive changes, we're actually involved
[59:43]
and we know what's happening with it.
[59:45]
And to um to CEO Beck's comment about,
[59:50]
you know, we see more problems with the
[59:52]
development side. Why I think that is an
[59:56]
a natural progression of the fact that
[59:58]
that has been delegated away from
[1:00:00]
council meaning council isn't aware of
[1:00:02]
what's happening and when those
[1:00:04]
complaints come in we're not aware of
[1:00:06]
it. Um and and you know moving this uh
[1:00:11]
subdivision authority into
[1:00:13]
administration's hands will start to
[1:00:16]
garner the same problems that we're
[1:00:17]
having with the development permits in
[1:00:19]
the sense that there's a lack of context
[1:00:22]
around what's happening with it. So I um
[1:00:25]
I still can't support this. Thank you.
[1:00:33]
» Thank you Mr. Chair. So just the one
[1:00:35]
thing that you had mentioned, Cole, I I
[1:00:37]
would be adamantly opposed no matter how
[1:00:39]
this turns out to be council being the
[1:00:41]
subdivision appeal authority or board
[1:00:44]
because it should be an independent
[1:00:46]
body. I mean once it gets mixed up, it
[1:00:49]
gets back to that old thing, oh it's my
[1:00:51]
neighbor, so I better support it. I
[1:00:53]
think it's completely uh an independent
[1:00:56]
process and it needs to remain that.
[1:01:00]
» Go ahead.
[1:01:01]
» Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, for myself,
[1:01:04]
I just find, um, you know, you get the
[1:01:06]
the counselors, we're the the eyes and
[1:01:08]
ears out in the community. You you're
[1:01:11]
out there talking to people, you're
[1:01:12]
hearing the concerns, you're um, yeah,
[1:01:15]
you bring that stuff forward when you
[1:01:17]
come into uh, you know, dealing with the
[1:01:19]
subdivisions and um, it's just not
[1:01:23]
necessarily will everybody always
[1:01:25]
contact the office for
[1:01:28]
information or guidance or whatever. So,
[1:01:30]
um I still think that it should be held
[1:01:34]
with the um us the counselors and um
[1:01:38]
just because we are kind of out in the
[1:01:41]
in the public there.
[1:01:44]
Thank you, Tony. Uh so, Eric has moved
[1:01:47]
uh second reading of bylaw 26-016
[1:01:56]
being the subdivision authority bylaw.
[1:01:58]
Uh second reading. If there is no
[1:02:01]
further discussion, I'll call the
[1:02:03]
question. Those in favor?
[1:02:05]
Those opposed? That is lost. Thank you,
[1:02:09]
Kaylin.
[1:02:11]
» So, I just want to inform council I do
[1:02:13]
have like we do need to amend the
[1:02:15]
subdivision authority bylaw um just with
[1:02:17]
us leaving Man River Regional Service
[1:02:19]
Commission. So, I do have an amended
[1:02:21]
version um and that simply remains
[1:02:25]
subdivision authority with council and
[1:02:27]
the only thing that is delegated is the
[1:02:29]
subdivision extensions which are already
[1:02:31]
delegated to Old Man River regional
[1:02:33]
service commission. So, it's rather
[1:02:35]
allowing subdivision extensions to only
[1:02:37]
be dealt with administration which is
[1:02:39]
the status quo. So, I do have that
[1:02:40]
bylaw. I can um it can be discussed
[1:02:44]
today or I can bring it forward at the
[1:02:45]
next meeting. Yeah, perhaps just given
[1:02:47]
the time um if we could bring that
[1:02:49]
forward that'd be wonderful.
[1:02:50]
» Thank you.
[1:02:51]
» Thank you.
[1:02:55]
» Thank you.
[1:02:57]
Uh it is past 10:00.
[1:03:00]
So why don't we move in our agenda to
[1:03:03]
item E, our public hearings. If we could
[1:03:06]
recess the public portion of our meeting
[1:03:09]
and move towards our public hearing
[1:03:11]
number one, uh 2610. Uh we are here
[1:03:15]
today to hold the public hearing for
[1:03:16]
bylaw 26-010 amendment to the land use
[1:03:19]
bylaw to redesate a portion of plan
[1:03:22]
0815575
[1:03:24]
block 1 lot 212026
[1:03:27]
range road 223 within the southwest
[1:03:30]
151123 west the 4th from rural
[1:03:33]
agriculture to business light
[1:03:34]
industrial. I would entertain a motion
[1:03:36]
to open the public hearing. John.
[1:03:40]
» Thank you Mr. Chair. I move to open the
[1:03:42]
public hearing on bylaw 26-010.
[1:03:48]
Thank you, John. John has moved to open
[1:03:50]
the public hearing for bylaw 26-010.
[1:03:53]
Is there any discussion? Call the
[1:03:55]
question. Those in favor?
[1:03:57]
That is carried. Uh public hearing is
[1:04:00]
being held pursuant to the municipal
[1:04:01]
government act as amended. The public
[1:04:03]
hearing is being live streamed via the
[1:04:04]
county's YouTube page. Public hearing
[1:04:06]
for viol 26-010 is now officially open.
[1:04:09]
I'll now ask for a review of the nature
[1:04:10]
of hearing and an overview of what is
[1:04:13]
being proposed.
[1:04:24]
» Thank you, council. So, bylaw 26-010 is
[1:04:27]
an amendment to our land use bylaw. It
[1:04:29]
is to reddesate a portion of plan
[1:04:32]
0815575,
[1:04:34]
block 1, lot 2. It is 1126 Range Road
[1:04:38]
223.
[1:04:40]
Um, it is red designated from rule A to
[1:04:42]
Business Light Industrial.
[1:04:45]
Let's pull up the Oh, I'm on the wrong
[1:04:48]
application.
[1:04:49]
There it is. Okay. Um, so the proposal
[1:04:53]
is um related to a transportation depot
[1:04:57]
that is currently operating on the site
[1:04:59]
in non-compliance. It was identified
[1:05:01]
back in 2025 when the landowner wanted
[1:05:03]
to expand their existing property and
[1:05:06]
business. Um, we identified that we
[1:05:08]
actually needed to work with the town of
[1:05:10]
Nobleford on an intermissible
[1:05:11]
development plan amendment which was
[1:05:13]
passed before council back in 2025.
[1:05:16]
Um, and one of the next steps was
[1:05:20]
requiring the landowner to do a wetland
[1:05:22]
assessment prior to applying to a
[1:05:24]
resoning. Um so now they've completed
[1:05:26]
the wetland assessment which you'll see
[1:05:27]
on the resoning map is specifically that
[1:05:30]
eastern boundary which is defining the
[1:05:32]
resoning area.
[1:05:34]
Um so the redesation area landed at 43
[1:05:40]
acres and it is explicitly excluding
[1:05:43]
that wetland and the redesation to the
[1:05:46]
business light industrial will allow the
[1:05:48]
existing business to be brought into
[1:05:49]
compliance as well as accommodate their
[1:05:51]
proposed building expansion.
[1:05:54]
Um so before you today is um
[1:05:57]
recommendation to read this bylaw for
[1:06:00]
the second and third time and this is on
[1:06:02]
the basis that it does align with our
[1:06:03]
municipal development plan to support
[1:06:05]
industrial and commercial expansion in
[1:06:07]
areas that are supported through the IDP
[1:06:10]
and it does accommodate the growth of an
[1:06:12]
existing operation. And with that any
[1:06:15]
questions?
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» Thank you Kayn.
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Any questions from council?
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This is council soul's opportunity to
[1:06:22]
receive input from the public. Those
[1:06:24]
making presentations are asked to state
[1:06:25]
their name and review their points. We
[1:06:26]
ask that you refrain from asking
[1:06:27]
questions to council. The intention of
[1:06:29]
the public hearing is not to debate or
[1:06:30]
defend the contents of the bylaw or the
[1:06:31]
position which individual counselors may
[1:06:33]
have on the bylaw. Questions asked of
[1:06:35]
the council by presenter may be ruled
[1:06:36]
out of order.
[1:06:38]
Presentation to council will start with
[1:06:39]
the applicant who has made a submission
[1:06:41]
followed by any other persons wishing to
[1:06:42]
comment on the proposal. Please keep
[1:06:44]
your comments to the point. After each
[1:06:46]
speaker, members of council will be
[1:06:47]
permitted to ask questions for the
[1:06:48]
presenter to clarify any details. No
[1:06:50]
debating or questions from the floor
[1:06:51]
will be allowed. Each speaker will be
[1:06:53]
allotted up to 10 minutes. Additional
[1:06:55]
time may be granted at the discretion of
[1:06:57]
councel.
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With that, I would ask if the applicant
[1:07:00]
wishes to speak.
[1:07:04]
I would then ask if there's anyone else
[1:07:06]
wishing to speak to the proposed bylaw.
[1:07:09]
And for a third and final time, I would
[1:07:10]
ask if there's anyone wishing to speak
[1:07:12]
to the proposed bylaw.
[1:07:15]
If there's nothing further, I would
[1:07:16]
entertain a motion to close the public
[1:07:18]
hearing. Eric,
[1:07:20]
» Mr. Chair, I move to close the public
[1:07:22]
hearing.
[1:07:23]
» Eric has moved to close the public
[1:07:24]
hearing for bylaw 26-010.
[1:07:27]
Is there any further discussion? I'll
[1:07:28]
call question. Those in favor? Opposed?
[1:07:31]
That is carry. Can now resume our public
[1:07:33]
meeting. Kaylin, do you have anything
[1:07:35]
further?
[1:07:35]
» No, I don't. Thank you.
[1:07:36]
» Okay. I would then uh open up to
[1:07:39]
council. Mark and then John.
[1:07:43]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Like to move by
[1:07:45]
26-0
[1:07:46]
be read a second time.
[1:07:49]
» Thank you, Mark. Mark has moved that
[1:07:50]
bylaw 26-010
[1:07:52]
be read for a second time. Is there any
[1:07:54]
discussion? Call question. Those in
[1:07:56]
favor opposed that carries.
[1:08:03]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to move
[1:08:04]
that bylaw 26-0 be read a third time.
[1:08:09]
Thank you, John. John has moved that by
[1:08:11]
26-0
[1:08:12]
be read for a third time. Is there any
[1:08:15]
discussion? Call the question. Those in
[1:08:17]
favor? opposed. That is carried. I think
[1:08:20]
Kaylin,
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» Sorry.
[1:08:25]
» Thanks, Mr. Chair. I apologize. I should
[1:08:28]
have mentioned this before third
[1:08:30]
reading, but um I
[1:08:33]
wanted to kind of express my
[1:08:34]
appreciation for our administration and
[1:08:36]
the the landowner to actually uh you
[1:08:40]
know, get this into compliance and get
[1:08:43]
things moving in a direction where it's
[1:08:46]
uh you know, he's he's acting well
[1:08:49]
within our bylaws
[1:08:51]
and becoming a a uh you know, more in
[1:08:55]
line with uh with our policies. and
[1:08:57]
procedures rather than just sort of
[1:08:59]
operating rogue. So, thank you very much
[1:09:01]
for all the effort put in on both house
[1:09:03]
on administration and on on the part of
[1:09:06]
our uh rateayer.
[1:09:09]
» Thank you, John. Uh moving down our
[1:09:12]
second bylaw, bylaw 26-019.
[1:09:15]
Uh we are here today for the public
[1:09:17]
hearing for bylaw 26-019 amendment to
[1:09:19]
the land use bylaw to revise the
[1:09:21]
definition of specialty
[1:09:22]
manufacturing/cottage
[1:09:24]
industry in part 9 definitions. I would
[1:09:27]
al ask for a
[1:09:29]
motion to open the public hearing for
[1:09:32]
bylaw 26-019.
[1:09:35]
Mark
[1:09:36]
» Thank you mr chair I move to open the
[1:09:38]
public hearing.
[1:09:40]
» Mark move to open the public hearing for
[1:09:41]
bylaw 26-019.
[1:09:43]
Any further discussion? Call a question.
[1:09:45]
Those in favor? Opposed? That is
[1:09:48]
carried. Uh, this public hearing is
[1:09:50]
being held pursuant to municipal
[1:09:51]
government act as amended. The public
[1:09:53]
hearings being live streamed via the
[1:09:54]
county's YouTube page. Public hearing
[1:09:56]
for bylaw 26-019 is now officially open.
[1:10:00]
Excuse me. I'll now ask for a review of
[1:10:01]
the nature of the hearing and an
[1:10:02]
overview of what is being proposed.
[1:10:04]
Kaylin,
[1:10:05]
» Thank you. So, bylaw 26-019
[1:10:07]
is an amendment to the land use bylaw to
[1:10:09]
revise the definition of specialty
[1:10:11]
manufacturing the cottage industry. So,
[1:10:14]
it's part nine of our bylaw. And this
[1:10:16]
application became about from a
[1:10:19]
Lethbridge County business who who is a
[1:10:21]
specialty manufacturing cottage use on
[1:10:23]
their parcel. Um, they're currently
[1:10:25]
operating on 11.4 acre title and they
[1:10:28]
have an existing shop and they're
[1:10:29]
actually unable to expand due to the
[1:10:31]
restrictions of the definition in our
[1:10:33]
land use bylaw. Um, so our land use
[1:10:35]
bylaw intends the specialty
[1:10:37]
manufacturing cottage industry is
[1:10:39]
small-scale on-site production,
[1:10:41]
fabrication, and processing of goods.
[1:10:43]
And it's really capped at a fixed
[1:10:45]
maximum gross area of 10,000 square
[1:10:47]
feet. And it doesn't connect to lot size
[1:10:49]
or any proximity contextual aspects of
[1:10:52]
the lot. And because this number 10,000
[1:10:55]
square feet is actually within the
[1:10:57]
definition, the development authority
[1:10:59]
has no um authority to wave it or give
[1:11:01]
any variance. Um so it's very much a
[1:11:04]
maximum allowed. So we're with working
[1:11:07]
with the applicant and recognizing our
[1:11:09]
land use bylaw um review is is
[1:11:12]
forthcoming. Um we identified an
[1:11:14]
opportunity to um make a minor amendment
[1:11:17]
to our land use bylaw to allow
[1:11:18]
businesses like this to expand and it to
[1:11:21]
be more contextually related to the size
[1:11:23]
of their lot. Um so this use only
[1:11:27]
actually applies to the rural
[1:11:28]
agricultural zones and rural commercial
[1:11:30]
districts. Rural commercial is a
[1:11:32]
district that is used on like three or
[1:11:33]
four part parcels in the county. So very
[1:11:36]
very little impact. It's mostly rural
[1:11:37]
agriculture. Um and so basically the
[1:11:41]
proposal before you is to amend the
[1:11:43]
definition to allow for 2,000 square
[1:11:46]
feet per acre of lot area up to a
[1:11:48]
maximum of 20,000 square feet. And the
[1:11:51]
reason 20,000 was selected as the
[1:11:53]
maximum is because we are looking at
[1:11:54]
this as a rural agricultural adjacent
[1:11:57]
use and um potato storage and similar
[1:11:59]
large agricultural buildings are kind of
[1:12:01]
that 20,000 square feet. So it it did
[1:12:04]
seem um similar in nature without
[1:12:06]
becoming the category of commercial
[1:12:08]
industrial. Um so that's why the numbers
[1:12:10]
were proposed and it's just a a minor
[1:12:13]
amendment. I'll pull up the text. The
[1:12:15]
red line is right here for everyone. And
[1:12:18]
really the recommendations um is to
[1:12:22]
consider the second and first reading of
[1:12:24]
this and it does align with our
[1:12:26]
municipal development plan as we do we
[1:12:30]
do recognize that adjustments need to be
[1:12:32]
made to support economic growth and
[1:12:34]
rural diversification through strategic
[1:12:36]
and sound planning and we do recognize
[1:12:39]
that there's a wide range of
[1:12:40]
agricultural and agricultural related or
[1:12:42]
ancillary land uses that should be
[1:12:44]
considered in our um land use bylaw. So
[1:12:47]
with that, if there's any questions.
[1:12:50]
» Thank you, Kaylin.
[1:12:52]
This is council's opportunity to receive
[1:12:54]
input from the public. Those making
[1:12:55]
presentations are asked to state their
[1:12:56]
name or review their points. We ask you
[1:12:58]
refrain from asking questions of
[1:12:59]
council. The intention of the public
[1:13:00]
hearing is not to debate or defend the
[1:13:01]
contents of the bylaw or the position
[1:13:03]
which individual counselor may have on
[1:13:04]
the bylaw. Questions asked of the
[1:13:05]
council by presenter may be ruled out of
[1:13:07]
order. Presentations to council will
[1:13:09]
start with the applicant who made a
[1:13:10]
submission followed by any other persons
[1:13:12]
wishing to speak.
[1:13:14]
After each speaker, members of council
[1:13:16]
will be permitted to ask questions. The
[1:13:17]
presenter to for any details each
[1:13:19]
speaker will be allowed up 10 minutes.
[1:13:21]
Additional time may be granted at the
[1:13:22]
discretion of council. I would now ask
[1:13:25]
if there's anyone wishing to speak to
[1:13:27]
the proposed bylaw.
[1:13:30]
I'd ask again if there's anyone wishing
[1:13:32]
to speak to the proposed bylaw.
[1:13:34]
And for a third and final time, I would
[1:13:36]
ask there's anyone wishing to speak to
[1:13:37]
the proposed bylaw.
[1:13:40]
If there's nothing further, I would
[1:13:41]
entertain a motion to close the public
[1:13:43]
hearing. John.
[1:13:45]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that we
[1:13:47]
close the public hearing for
[1:13:50]
bylaw 26-019.
[1:13:54]
Thank you, John. John has moved that to
[1:13:57]
move to close the public hearing for
[1:13:59]
bylaw 26-019.
[1:14:02]
Is there any further discussion? Call
[1:14:04]
question. Those in favor? Opposed? That
[1:14:06]
is carried. Now resume our public
[1:14:08]
meeting. I would open up to council for
[1:14:10]
any questions or discussion.
[1:14:18]
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, having had a
[1:14:21]
couple of rateayers that have been
[1:14:23]
caught in this particular quandry a few
[1:14:25]
years ago and had to do a significant
[1:14:28]
amount of reasoning in order to get the
[1:14:30]
buildings put together what they needed.
[1:14:32]
I uh very much welcome this change and I
[1:14:35]
think that it is a very good common
[1:14:37]
sense approach with the 2,000 per square
[1:14:40]
feet per acre that uh allows individuals
[1:14:44]
to expand as much as they possibly can
[1:14:47]
uh within reason on their parcel size.
[1:14:49]
So all that being said I would like to
[1:14:51]
move that bylaw 26-019
[1:14:54]
be read a second time.
[1:14:57]
» Thank you John. John has moved that by
[1:14:59]
26-019 be read for a second time. Is
[1:15:02]
there any discussion? Go ahead.
[1:15:05]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, in your
[1:15:07]
commenting, you mentioned that due to a
[1:15:09]
hard number in there, there was no
[1:15:11]
ability for waiverss or variances. Um,
[1:15:13]
are we going to have that the same here
[1:15:15]
as well that we're going to hit the
[1:15:17]
20,000 no matter what? We'd have to
[1:15:19]
amend it. And is there any appetite to
[1:15:22]
have uh a method of flexibility?
[1:15:26]
» Thank you, Councelor Vaness. So I did
[1:15:28]
consider different approaches and how we
[1:15:30]
rectify this issue for rateayers. Um if
[1:15:34]
we removed it from the definition, yes,
[1:15:36]
we'd have ability to vary it, but I
[1:15:39]
don't think it meets the intent of a
[1:15:40]
land use bylaw because rural agriculture
[1:15:42]
still needs to remain low inensity uses
[1:15:45]
and at what size of building are we
[1:15:47]
hitting the intensity that it should be
[1:15:48]
considered commercial industrial. Um so
[1:15:51]
I think this was an interimm measure to
[1:15:53]
address the immediate need of our our
[1:15:55]
residents and businesses. Well, we need
[1:15:57]
to take a look greater look at our land
[1:15:58]
use bylaw of what triggers and is
[1:16:01]
warranted commercial industrial, what is
[1:16:03]
mixed use, and those are conversations
[1:16:05]
we need to have over a larger land use
[1:16:07]
bylaw um overhaul and renewal. Um so
[1:16:10]
that's why the suggested approach was
[1:16:12]
just a minor amendment within our
[1:16:13]
definitions because really over 20,000
[1:16:15]
square feet we should be looking at a
[1:16:16]
commercial industrial use.
[1:16:19]
» You're welcome.
[1:16:22]
» Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, so the
[1:16:24]
original uh 10,000 square feet, was that
[1:16:27]
connected to an acre size before two or
[1:16:31]
» Thank you, Councelor Ankerman. Um, so
[1:16:33]
no, it was purely this use is limited to
[1:16:36]
10,000 square feet. Um, so you could
[1:16:39]
have a rural egg title that was 4 acres
[1:16:41]
and technically be allowed 10,000 square
[1:16:43]
feet. Um it is a discretionary use. So
[1:16:46]
of course the development authority
[1:16:47]
would use their their discretion but it
[1:16:49]
wasn't not it tied to lot size proximity
[1:16:52]
to roads and highways. Um it was just a
[1:16:54]
blanket statement in the definition.
[1:16:57]
» Yeah.
[1:17:00]
» Thank you Mr. Chair. So just a question
[1:17:02]
for cottage industry does and when you
[1:17:04]
say processing what exactly do you mean
[1:17:07]
by that? like it when you say processing
[1:17:10]
would be a good example like the cheese
[1:17:13]
plant but is that a cottage industry?
[1:17:15]
» Thank you councelor Hickeyi. So it is
[1:17:17]
quite a catchall definition. We do use
[1:17:20]
it quite often. You'll see in the
[1:17:22]
definition it it includes but not
[1:17:24]
limited to so it's everything from
[1:17:27]
bakery bakeries specialty food
[1:17:29]
manufacturing distilleries micro
[1:17:31]
breweries wineries um artisan and
[1:17:34]
craftsmanship um lutheran um
[1:17:37]
taxiderermis woodworking u furniture
[1:17:40]
making cabinetry like it is quite a
[1:17:42]
gamut of things it is often what I see
[1:17:46]
in development permits being used for
[1:17:48]
like egg related industries um the
[1:17:51]
specific One is like
[1:17:54]
manufacturing, steel manufacturing
[1:17:55]
related to agricultural buildings. Um,
[1:17:58]
I've seen it being used for like floral
[1:18:01]
ups. Um, I've seen it used for
[1:18:04]
breweries. So, it it's kind of using the
[1:18:07]
byproducts of agriculture or
[1:18:10]
contributing to the agricultural
[1:18:11]
industry. It kind of goes back. So, it
[1:18:14]
is quite broad.
[1:18:16]
» So, you they actually have to process
[1:18:18]
something like they just can't store
[1:18:20]
something. You actually have to. Okay.
[1:18:22]
Thank you.
[1:18:22]
» Yeah.
[1:18:24]
» Uh John has moved that bylaw 26-019
[1:18:28]
be read for a second time.
[1:18:31]
» Go ahead.
[1:18:32]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Am I also
[1:18:34]
understanding it right now that if
[1:18:36]
somebody has a 2acre parcel capped at
[1:18:38]
4,000 square feet this time around?
[1:18:40]
» You are correct in that, Councelor
[1:18:41]
Vaness. And the reason we decided that
[1:18:43]
cap was reasonable is because a lot of
[1:18:45]
rule egg titles are adjacent to a group
[1:18:47]
country residential use and their
[1:18:49]
accessory buildings are maxed at 4,000
[1:18:51]
square ft. Um so in the circumstances
[1:18:54]
where they are directly adjacent to GCR
[1:18:56]
um that would still seem appropriate.
[1:19:01]
» Okay. And there and there's no uh
[1:19:03]
flexibility on that number either then.
[1:19:06]
» No, not within the current definition.
[1:19:08]
And if you are a small rule egg title of
[1:19:11]
two to four acres, um you're probably
[1:19:14]
within the vicinity of an urban area.
[1:19:17]
You're probably within the vicinity of
[1:19:18]
substantial number of acreages. So there
[1:19:20]
would be a larger um adjacent property
[1:19:23]
impact um because you're going to have
[1:19:26]
more fragmentation and more houses. Um
[1:19:28]
so I wouldn't feel comfortable with the
[1:19:31]
recommendation to expand that for those
[1:19:33]
smaller parcels.
[1:19:37]
Thank you.
[1:19:40]
» John has moved that bylaw 26-019 be read
[1:19:42]
Perry second time. Is there any further
[1:19:44]
questions? Sorry. Uh is there any
[1:19:47]
further uh Yeah, for a third time. Uh is
[1:19:49]
there any further discussion or
[1:19:50]
questions? I'll call the question. Those
[1:19:52]
in favor post that carries. Third
[1:19:55]
reading. Lauren,
[1:19:57]
» I would move third reading of bylaw
[1:19:58]
26-019.
[1:20:01]
» Thank you, Lauren. Horn is moved by
[1:20:02]
26-019 be read for a third time. Is
[1:20:06]
there any further discussion? Call
[1:20:08]
question. Those in favor? Those opposed?
[1:20:10]
That is carried.
[1:20:11]
» Thank you, Kaylin.
[1:20:12]
» Thank you.
[1:20:13]
» That takes us to 10:21. Why don't we
[1:20:16]
take a short recess and return at
[1:37:12]
Uh we'll call the meeting back to order
[1:37:14]
at 10:38 a.m. this morning. Uh we can
[1:37:17]
move in our agenda to administration F2
[1:37:21]
F2.1 fire investigation inspection
[1:37:24]
administrative policy. Morning Heath.
[1:37:27]
Good morning, council. Um, today I'd
[1:37:30]
like to uh talk to you about the uh fire
[1:37:32]
investigation inspection administration
[1:37:34]
policy. Uh, Lethbridge Countyy's quality
[1:37:36]
management plan, QM, formerly known as
[1:37:39]
the quality management plan, presently
[1:37:41]
relies on a Lethbridge County Fire
[1:37:43]
investigation inspection guideline to
[1:37:44]
monitor and govern discretionary fire
[1:37:46]
investigation and inspection decisions.
[1:37:49]
Adopting this policy achieves two
[1:37:51]
things. It gives fire safety codes
[1:37:53]
officer a document defensible standard
[1:37:55]
of care that satisfies the county safety
[1:37:57]
codes act obligations. And it also
[1:38:00]
protects rateayers by reserving formal
[1:38:02]
specialist level investigation for fires
[1:38:04]
that genuinely require it. Fatalities,
[1:38:07]
injuries, suspected criminal activity or
[1:38:09]
complex uh incidents. while routine low
[1:38:13]
complex complex uh uh and vehicle fires
[1:38:17]
are handled at no additional cost by the
[1:38:20]
attending fire officer.
[1:38:22]
So just to give you some uh a little bit
[1:38:24]
more background,
[1:38:26]
West Lebridge County holds accreditation
[1:38:28]
under the safety codes act through a
[1:38:29]
quality management system accepted by
[1:38:31]
the safety codes council. The director
[1:38:33]
of emergency services acts as the fire
[1:38:35]
QMS manager and is the authority having
[1:38:38]
jurisdiction safety codes officer under
[1:38:40]
this accredititation. QMS schedule C
[1:38:43]
section 4.12.5
[1:38:45]
obligates the county to maintain a
[1:38:47]
defined process for fire investigations
[1:38:49]
and governs fire inspections. Currently,
[1:38:52]
this obligation exists at the QMS level,
[1:38:55]
but has not been operationalized into
[1:38:57]
council approved policy and clearly
[1:38:59]
defines authority triggers for
[1:39:01]
investigations and limits on contract um
[1:39:04]
fire chief's actions. Without a form of
[1:39:07]
policy, contracted fire service
[1:39:09]
providers lack clear, consistent
[1:39:11]
direction on when a formal and costly
[1:39:14]
investigation is required versus when a
[1:39:16]
routine assessment by an attending fire
[1:39:18]
officer is sufficient.
[1:39:20]
There is inconsistent application of
[1:39:22]
investigative resources across the
[1:39:24]
county's contracted fire departments,
[1:39:26]
creating both compliance risk and
[1:39:28]
unpredictable cost exposure. And the
[1:39:31]
county is exposed to liability and audit
[1:39:33]
findings from the safety codes council
[1:39:35]
for failing to formalize an accredited
[1:39:37]
process already required under the QM.
[1:39:42]
So
[1:39:44]
I I uh as far as the financial impact,
[1:39:47]
adoption of the policy is not expected
[1:39:49]
to create new co direct cost to the
[1:39:51]
county. Rather, it formalizes and
[1:39:53]
constrains existing practice. It is
[1:39:55]
expected to reduce or avoid costs
[1:39:57]
associated with unnecessary engagement
[1:39:59]
of an NFPA 1033 qualified investigator
[1:40:02]
or external specialist for low
[1:40:04]
complexity incidents that can be
[1:40:06]
documented by an intending fire officer
[1:40:09]
at no additional cost. duplicated fire
[1:40:12]
investigation of vehicle fires already
[1:40:14]
covered by insurer retained experts and
[1:40:17]
potential liability and remedi
[1:40:19]
remediation costs arising from
[1:40:21]
inconistent inconsistent or undocumented
[1:40:24]
investigation decisions. So with that uh
[1:40:28]
council I would like to uh give the
[1:40:30]
recommendation that council approve and
[1:40:32]
adopt policy number 219 fire
[1:40:35]
investigation inspection policy as an
[1:40:38]
integrated component of the county's
[1:40:40]
quality management plan QV1-4
[1:40:43]
or point4.
[1:40:46]
Any questions?
[1:40:48]
» Heath, I would open it up to council for
[1:40:50]
questions and discussion.
[1:40:54]
John,
[1:40:56]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, Heath, as you
[1:40:59]
know, with my background, um, I had
[1:41:03]
particular interest in this and reading
[1:41:05]
through uh, your proposal, I think it's
[1:41:07]
something that makes sense. you know,
[1:41:09]
um, in in my world outside of municipal
[1:41:13]
uh, politics has been many a time where
[1:41:15]
I've gone to a a
[1:41:17]
scene where we've had multiple fire
[1:41:19]
investigators and it is very an
[1:41:21]
extraordinarily straightforward uh, and
[1:41:24]
easy to determ situation. So, you kind
[1:41:27]
of wonder where the resources are spent
[1:41:28]
and why they're spent on that. So, I u I
[1:41:32]
I appreciate the common sense uh
[1:41:34]
approach to this particular policy. And
[1:41:37]
um all that being said, I would like to
[1:41:40]
move that uh council approve and adopt
[1:41:43]
policy number 219, fire investigation
[1:41:46]
inspection policy as an integrated
[1:41:48]
component of the county's quality
[1:41:50]
management system QM version 1.4.
[1:41:55]
» Thank you, John. John has moved the
[1:41:56]
recommendation that council approve and
[1:41:59]
adopt policy number 219 fire
[1:42:01]
investigation inspection policy as an
[1:42:04]
integrated component of the county's
[1:42:06]
quality management system QM version
[1:42:09]
1.4.
[1:42:11]
Is there any further questions or
[1:42:12]
discussion? Mark
[1:42:14]
» Just a quick clarification. So if um
[1:42:17]
we've contracted out this to the other
[1:42:19]
departments within the county. So if
[1:42:21]
something if there is an investigation
[1:42:23]
held or if it's not done properly, does
[1:42:25]
that the risk falls back on the county?
[1:42:29]
» No, it would be under the uh
[1:42:32]
certification of the fire investigator
[1:42:34]
or or the fire officer that was in
[1:42:37]
instant command on scene.
[1:42:39]
» Okay.
[1:42:41]
Any other questions or discussion?
[1:42:44]
Call the question. Those in favor?
[1:42:46]
Opposed? That carries. Thanks, Heath.
[1:42:49]
Uh, moving down. F22, request for
[1:42:52]
financial relief.
[1:42:56]
Okay.
[1:43:05]
All right. Um, just to give you a
[1:43:07]
summary, on June 15th, 2024, Lethbridge
[1:43:11]
County Contracted Fire Services
[1:43:12]
responded to a rescue incident at Kho
[1:43:14]
Lake. Miss Hillary Lee, uh, the
[1:43:18]
individual rescued, has since received
[1:43:20]
invoicing for the associated mercy
[1:43:22]
response cost and has formally requested
[1:43:25]
that council consider financial relief
[1:43:27]
with respect to these charges. Miss
[1:43:29]
Lee's request indicates that the
[1:43:32]
incident was unplanned and unexpected
[1:43:34]
with no insurance coverage for this type
[1:43:36]
of rescue. Miss Lee is not disputing the
[1:43:39]
costs are that are owed, but is
[1:43:41]
requesting council's consideration of
[1:43:44]
relief given the financial hardship and
[1:43:46]
full cost invoice would represent and
[1:43:48]
has offered to enter into a reasonable
[1:43:51]
monthly payment arrangement for any uh
[1:43:54]
amount ultimately determined to be
[1:43:56]
payable.
[1:43:58]
Um,
[1:44:00]
just to uh give you some further
[1:44:02]
background,
[1:44:04]
Miss Hillary Lee required emergency
[1:44:06]
rescue assistance at Keyhole Lake. Um,
[1:44:10]
Lethbridge Countyy's contract of
[1:44:11]
emergency response resources attended
[1:44:12]
and carried out the rescue and sub and
[1:44:15]
subsequent transport. Uh, following the
[1:44:18]
response, Miss Lee was invoiced for
[1:44:20]
associated emergency response costs
[1:44:22]
under the county standard cost recovery
[1:44:24]
practice. Miss Lee has submitted uh
[1:44:28]
written court correspondence requesting
[1:44:30]
council's consideration of financial
[1:44:31]
relief. She states that the need for
[1:44:34]
rescue was entirely unexpected and
[1:44:35]
unplanned. She was not advised during
[1:44:38]
the response, rescue or transport that
[1:44:40]
significant personal uh personal charges
[1:44:43]
uh could result. The resulting invoice
[1:44:45]
came as a surprise and represents a
[1:44:48]
significant financial hardship. No
[1:44:50]
insurance coverage is available to her
[1:44:52]
for this type of rescue and she will be
[1:44:55]
uh willing to establish a reasonable
[1:44:57]
monthly payment arrangement for any
[1:44:58]
amount council determines ultimately
[1:45:01]
payable. Miss Lee has expressed
[1:45:02]
appreciation for the professionalism and
[1:45:04]
the responders and is not disputing that
[1:45:08]
emergency services involve real costs.
[1:45:10]
Her request is limited to council's
[1:45:12]
consideration of relief from a full
[1:45:14]
invoice amount given the specific
[1:45:16]
circumstances.
[1:45:19]
Um,
[1:45:21]
as far as financial impact, the
[1:45:23]
financial impact to the county depends
[1:45:24]
on the option selected by councelor
[1:45:27]
ranging from a full recovery to the
[1:45:28]
invoice in emergency costs, option A or
[1:45:32]
to fully write off the invoice amount to
[1:45:34]
option C. Uh
[1:45:37]
what I would like to uh look at as far
[1:45:40]
as a recommendation
[1:45:43]
council receives this report uh this
[1:45:45]
report from information and provide
[1:45:46]
direction to administration regarding
[1:45:48]
Miss Lee's request for financial relief
[1:45:50]
including whether to direct
[1:45:52]
administration to bring forward an
[1:45:54]
amendment to fire bylaw number 22-002
[1:45:58]
establishing a cost recovery cap
[1:46:00]
applicable to rare and unusual emergency
[1:46:03]
events of this nature or otherwise. has
[1:46:06]
resolved this matter as follows. uphold
[1:46:08]
the invoice as issued with
[1:46:11]
administration to offer a monthly
[1:46:12]
payment arrangement or approve a partial
[1:46:14]
reduction of the invoiced amount and the
[1:46:17]
balance uh payable via monthly payment
[1:46:19]
arrangement or wave the charges in full
[1:46:22]
in light of a unique circumstance
[1:46:24]
presented or direct administration to
[1:46:26]
prepare an amendment to fire bylaw
[1:46:29]
number 22-002
[1:46:31]
establishing a cap cost recovery of
[1:46:33]
$1,500 for unusual emergency events.
[1:46:35]
example, unplanned water ice rescues
[1:46:38]
where advanced warning of charges was
[1:46:40]
not practical. Um, and apply this cap to
[1:46:44]
this invoice.
[1:46:47]
So, with that, uh, any questions?
[1:46:51]
» Keith, I'll open I'll go to Cole first.
[1:46:54]
Go ahead.
[1:46:55]
» Thank you, council. I just wanted to add
[1:46:58]
when we reviewed this because I think
[1:47:00]
the letter speaks to a lot of things or
[1:47:03]
rationale that would apply to any fire
[1:47:06]
response unplanned unexpected
[1:47:10]
where administration believes it
[1:47:13]
diverges is I think there's a reasonable
[1:47:15]
expectation that um people carry
[1:47:18]
property insurance like fire risk
[1:47:21]
mitigation um response. I think this
[1:47:24]
falls outside of that. And so we
[1:47:26]
struggled with this. We somewhat pulled
[1:47:29]
the $1,500
[1:47:30]
out of the air where it's, hey, there's
[1:47:32]
some accountability and there's a
[1:47:33]
discretionary component to that, but
[1:47:37]
this is one of those ones that not only
[1:47:38]
is it the potentially the worst day of
[1:47:40]
somebody's life. It is also not a
[1:47:43]
reasonable expectation that they would
[1:47:44]
have insurance for this type of a
[1:47:46]
response. We don't do an excessive
[1:47:48]
amount of them and we struggled to come
[1:47:50]
up with what that exact structure should
[1:47:53]
be. There's been some very very tragic
[1:47:56]
responses in the province recently.
[1:47:59]
Um, and on the worst day of somebody's
[1:48:02]
life, I'm the last thing I want to do is
[1:48:05]
deliver an invoice to them for something
[1:48:07]
like that that there could have been no
[1:48:10]
reasonable expectation that they could
[1:48:12]
have mitigated the financial
[1:48:13]
implications. So, um, I don't think
[1:48:16]
there's a perfect solution. we've put
[1:48:17]
what we've come up with in front of
[1:48:19]
council, but I wanted to be very
[1:48:21]
transparent in how we work through this
[1:48:22]
and
[1:48:24]
trying to deduce um a reasonable
[1:48:26]
recommendation.
[1:48:30]
» Thank you.
[1:48:34]
» Um
[1:48:36]
something that's missing on this is how
[1:48:38]
much was the bill we sent?
[1:48:40]
» Total bill, I don't have the exact
[1:48:42]
number, but it's around uh I believe
[1:48:45]
$11,000.
[1:48:49]
follow up on that.
[1:48:50]
» Sorry. Um,
[1:48:53]
you know, when we first put in the u the
[1:48:56]
bylaw for for emergency services and my
[1:49:00]
thought process in my head was around uh
[1:49:03]
you know, fire and emergency responses
[1:49:05]
associated with that. uh because that is
[1:49:08]
something that as a homeowner or vehicle
[1:49:12]
owner there you have the ability to
[1:49:15]
actually purchase insurance. And so the
[1:49:18]
the whole premise behind um that was
[1:49:22]
there was an insurable avenue and or an
[1:49:26]
area where there's another avenue for
[1:49:28]
payment. So
[1:49:30]
I felt at the time that it was unfair
[1:49:33]
for the municipality to take the fire
[1:49:35]
services charges of an individual when
[1:49:38]
there is an avenue where where a
[1:49:41]
reasonably prudent individual could
[1:49:43]
purchase insurance to indemnify
[1:49:45]
themselves for that. So that's it's it's
[1:49:48]
not fair to put that burden on on all of
[1:49:50]
the rateayers specifically. in
[1:49:53]
circumstances like this there there just
[1:49:56]
truly is no insurance that anybody could
[1:49:59]
buy for this. So
[1:50:02]
um this circumstances like this would
[1:50:05]
fall outside of u
[1:50:09]
my mindset in intention when we were
[1:50:12]
having the initial discussion I think
[1:50:14]
now five years ago about deferring uh
[1:50:17]
costs on to individuals because uh as I
[1:50:22]
said there's just no possible way that
[1:50:24]
anybody could or should be expected to
[1:50:27]
purchase insurance for this. So, um, you
[1:50:31]
know, as in terms of of options, uh, A,
[1:50:35]
B, C, or D, I'm not sure where I would
[1:50:39]
fall on that. Um,
[1:50:42]
you know, in this particular
[1:50:44]
circumstance like amending the bylaw, I
[1:50:46]
think that's a separate issue from this
[1:50:48]
particular conversation. Um, I think the
[1:50:51]
the bigger conversation has to be around
[1:50:54]
what do we do in the future on this, but
[1:50:57]
but the conversation in front of us
[1:50:59]
right now is what do we do in this
[1:51:01]
particular circumstance? And I'm not
[1:51:04]
100% certain where I want to land on
[1:51:06]
that.
[1:51:09]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, yeah, this was
[1:51:12]
another one that, uh, you know, I read
[1:51:14]
through several times and, um, you know,
[1:51:16]
I sympathize. I feel bad for the young
[1:51:18]
lady. She's, you know, she made a
[1:51:20]
mistake. I think she owns it. Um
[1:51:22]
throwing $11,000 bill at her. I don't
[1:51:24]
think it's the right thing. Um I think
[1:51:26]
that um there should be something. So
[1:51:29]
the 15 the the option D that you've
[1:51:31]
given there is to put a $1,500 cap.
[1:51:34]
That's something that's affordable, be a
[1:51:35]
life lesson for that, but it's still
[1:51:37]
there's something. It's not that we're
[1:51:38]
we set a precedent by waving the entire
[1:51:40]
fee. So um I think move you know based
[1:51:44]
on your recommendation your report here
[1:51:46]
I I would you know I could certainly
[1:51:48]
support that recommendation D is an
[1:51:49]
option just moving forward. So
[1:51:55]
» Thank you Mr. Chair. Um,
[1:51:58]
was there a part of this that uh uh a
[1:52:02]
significant bill came from uh the water
[1:52:04]
rescue portion and was there a portion
[1:52:06]
that
[1:52:08]
potentially Lethbridge County didn't
[1:52:10]
have um contracts in place or or things
[1:52:14]
in place that uh we could have had in
[1:52:16]
place or maybe even should have had in
[1:52:18]
place.
[1:52:18]
» Right. Councelor Venison, thank you for
[1:52:21]
the question. Uh yes, there was water
[1:52:23]
rescue efforts and there was costs
[1:52:25]
associated with it. I have been in
[1:52:27]
consultation with the city of
[1:52:29]
Lethbridge, Lethbridge Fire and
[1:52:30]
Emergency Services as far as um would
[1:52:33]
they be willing to work with this uh the
[1:52:36]
the billing process and and uh they are
[1:52:39]
willing and I have a verbal agreement at
[1:52:42]
this point with uh Deputy Chief Chris
[1:52:44]
Maris and uh we are going to move
[1:52:46]
forward with that and he has promised me
[1:52:48]
that he will they will look at some type
[1:52:51]
of relief if not all of it.
[1:52:55]
» Thank you, Mr. chairman through the
[1:52:56]
chair to councelor Van Essen. I would
[1:52:58]
just add that even with our agreements,
[1:53:00]
we are we are liable to pay the the
[1:53:02]
response rates either negotiated rates
[1:53:05]
and they vary. City of Lethbridge has
[1:53:07]
their own schedule of fee bylaw and then
[1:53:09]
north of the river we pay at or we pay
[1:53:11]
the Albert transportation rates and we
[1:53:14]
have a different agreement with Coldale.
[1:53:16]
So there would be a cost impact to our
[1:53:20]
um to our rateayers by changing this.
[1:53:24]
Um, I know Haley is just pulling the
[1:53:26]
actual cost of this response and then
[1:53:29]
maybe if I could ask Keith to speak to
[1:53:31]
the number of these types of calls we
[1:53:32]
see on average a year. I know we had
[1:53:34]
discussed that and it was fairly small
[1:53:36]
but there is a financial implication to
[1:53:38]
making this change.
[1:53:41]
» Go ahead.
[1:53:42]
» Uh, based on the details that I just see
[1:53:44]
on the invoice, um, the total bill was
[1:53:46]
$9,182.50
[1:53:48]
50 cents that was build between various
[1:53:52]
stations and various municipalities um
[1:53:55]
including the city of Lethbridge. Uh the
[1:53:57]
bill is now $12,855.50
[1:54:02]
because we she continues to incur uh
[1:54:05]
finance charges because she has not made
[1:54:08]
any payments to the outstanding invoice.
[1:54:11]
Um so that just gives you a little bit
[1:54:14]
more context
[1:54:17]
» And to answer the question as far as
[1:54:19]
occurrence it's very rare um that these
[1:54:23]
you know they do come up in sometimes
[1:54:26]
you'll get one or two a year but then
[1:54:28]
you might not get one for five years.
[1:54:30]
So, these are unique circumstances and
[1:54:33]
being a a first responder myself in my
[1:54:36]
past, I I can definitely say that these
[1:54:40]
are rare occurrences and they don't
[1:54:41]
happen that much, but when they do,
[1:54:43]
they're life impacting and and now this
[1:54:46]
is financially impacting for her as
[1:54:48]
well.
[1:54:50]
» Any other comments or questions?
[1:54:55]
» Go ahead.
[1:54:56]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I guess we I
[1:55:00]
feel we should put a a proposal out
[1:55:02]
there one way or other. Um, we've often
[1:55:05]
discussed at length, you know,
[1:55:07]
reductions and the things against it
[1:55:09]
that's been talked about at length. So,
[1:55:11]
I'm just going to put a proposal out
[1:55:12]
there. Um, half of original bill on
[1:55:15]
terms is my proposal.
[1:55:24]
So, as I'm sitting here contemplating
[1:55:26]
this whole circumstance, I come back to,
[1:55:30]
you know, the original intent of us
[1:55:33]
passing the bylaw about putting
[1:55:36]
emergency services on to onto uh
[1:55:40]
individuals.
[1:55:41]
was the and the intent behind that was
[1:55:45]
to mitigate costs for the for the county
[1:55:49]
and for our rate payers for
[1:55:52]
circumstances where there was the
[1:55:54]
potential for the responsible parties to
[1:55:58]
carry insurance to cover off their
[1:56:00]
potential liability on this. Um, and
[1:56:04]
looking at at that and looking at the
[1:56:08]
intent of what we originally tried to do
[1:56:12]
and realizing that, you know, a a rescue
[1:56:16]
of this nature and a water rescue or
[1:56:18]
anything where there is actually human
[1:56:20]
life in peril, um, I I'd be more apt to
[1:56:25]
just,
[1:56:27]
you know, either wave the charges or put
[1:56:29]
it down to a very nominal fee. Um, I I
[1:56:34]
just I really struggle with with us
[1:56:37]
putting a financial burden on somebody
[1:56:40]
for a rescue. Um, and and part of the
[1:56:44]
reason I struggle with this is that if
[1:56:46]
you know, we do this and we set a
[1:56:49]
precedent on it and we say, "Okay, well,
[1:56:50]
you know, we'll give you payments on
[1:56:51]
that." But then, you know, what happens
[1:56:54]
the next time that somebody's trapped
[1:56:56]
out on Keyhill Lake and they hear about
[1:56:58]
this and they start thinking, "Oh, gee,
[1:57:00]
I can't afford it, so I'm not going to
[1:57:01]
call a rescue." and then we end up with
[1:57:03]
a body recovery situation. I I really I
[1:57:07]
I don't think that that passing this
[1:57:10]
bill on to this individual meets the
[1:57:12]
intent of what we originally were trying
[1:57:14]
to do. And um and I don't think that
[1:57:18]
it's something that us as a municipality
[1:57:21]
should be looking at at doing just from
[1:57:25]
moral grounds. To be perfectly honest, I
[1:57:27]
think the right thing to do in this
[1:57:28]
circumstance is is understand that this
[1:57:31]
is not an insurable situation. They they
[1:57:34]
have no potential of of passing this on
[1:57:37]
to recovery. Even if they wanted to buy
[1:57:39]
insurance for this, it's just not
[1:57:41]
something that is available. So, I I
[1:57:43]
think I would be more in favor of just
[1:57:45]
either full-on waving this or just
[1:57:47]
having a very nominal charge.
[1:57:51]
» Maybe a question to council. Is there is
[1:57:53]
there an appetite from council to as uh
[1:57:57]
option D suggests is there an appetite
[1:58:00]
to u enact an amendment to establish a
[1:58:05]
cap moving forward? I know I I maybe
[1:58:07]
just to separate the two from this
[1:58:09]
incident to to moving forward. I think
[1:58:11]
we could pro we could potentially um
[1:58:14]
take a two-pronged approach if that was
[1:58:15]
council's appetite. Is there an appetite
[1:58:17]
from council to look at amending that
[1:58:19]
and and uh instituting a cap?
[1:58:27]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh I I can
[1:58:30]
appreciate the attempt on that and I
[1:58:32]
think that there there will be an
[1:58:33]
avenue, but I there are two unintended
[1:58:37]
consequences. Next thing you know, we
[1:58:38]
are we are on for something significant.
[1:58:42]
and using John's logic of well they
[1:58:44]
could have got insurance or they
[1:58:45]
couldn't got a couldn't have uh could
[1:58:48]
set us up for uh some significant
[1:58:52]
liability in in these situations. Uh so
[1:58:57]
I don't think that is a discerning mark.
[1:58:59]
Um we all have our our bills uh and
[1:59:04]
responsibilities on that. So,
[1:59:07]
um,
[1:59:09]
yes to recovery, but or to a cap, but,
[1:59:13]
uh, going to be pretty tight guidelines
[1:59:15]
if if I were to support it.
[1:59:20]
Thoughts?
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I I would concur with councelor Vanessin
[1:59:26]
that if we were going to put a cap on
[1:59:27]
that, it would have to be very
[1:59:29]
specifically set up for
[1:59:33]
unique set of circumstances and not just
[1:59:35]
an unusual circumstance because, you
[1:59:38]
know, if if there's a potential loophole
[1:59:41]
for somebody to come in and say, well,
[1:59:44]
you know, I couldn't get insurance
[1:59:45]
because
[1:59:47]
um that that would uh degrade the nature
[1:59:50]
of the bylaw. So, you know, I would be
[1:59:54]
I'd be willing to certainly look at an
[1:59:55]
amendment to the bylaw, but I think it,
[1:59:57]
you know, to councelor Vaness's point,
[2:00:00]
it would have to be very very specific
[2:00:02]
about what those circumstances would be.
[2:00:07]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I I would agree
[2:00:08]
with that. I think that getting into the
[2:00:11]
specific details is going to be a a bit
[2:00:13]
of a challenge, but uh I I would
[2:00:17]
certainly look at that.
[2:00:20]
» Thank you.
[2:00:23]
Just again, Terrina, what I said before,
[2:00:26]
I would support just prov giving this
[2:00:29]
young lady an invoice for the $1,500. I
[2:00:31]
think 4,500 is too steep. And I think it
[2:00:33]
was just young girl stupid, you know,
[2:00:36]
bad choices and uh I just I think it's
[2:00:40]
it's the right thing to do. And again,
[2:00:41]
tied to the insurance pieces, everybody
[2:00:43]
said they're sitting here today. So, but
[2:00:45]
I think that's that's my would be my
[2:00:46]
recommendation is that we just give her
[2:00:48]
an invoice for $1,500.
[2:00:50]
» You make that motion.
[2:00:54]
» I I can if you want to do that or this
[2:00:56]
is you just this this report is just
[2:00:58]
being received for information. So, this
[2:01:00]
is moving forward. You're not
[2:01:01]
» Well, there's there is two elements to
[2:01:03]
Okay.
[2:01:04]
» I'd make it a motion that we if you'd
[2:01:07]
like that. That's
[2:01:09]
» And then just uh uh
[2:01:12]
if uh How would I read that
[2:01:15]
» And then review the bylaw with and
[2:01:17]
clarify?
[2:01:20]
» Would you be comfortable with uh with
[2:01:22]
item D then Mark?
[2:01:23]
» Yeah.
[2:01:24]
» Making that as a motion.
[2:01:25]
» Yeah. With the amendment that Eric had
[2:01:27]
talked about around tightening up that
[2:01:28]
definition of the emergency what's an
[2:01:30]
unusual emergency to make clarify that
[2:01:33]
further.
[2:01:33]
» So that would come back to council for
[2:01:34]
approval then.
[2:01:35]
» Absolutely.
[2:01:36]
» Okay.
[2:01:40]
» Well, I think these are two steps. One
[2:01:42]
would be amending the bylaw, which is
[2:01:44]
something that would have to happen at a
[2:01:46]
different meeting. But the the other
[2:01:47]
issue is what do we do with this young
[2:01:49]
lady at this particular point in time,
[2:01:51]
» Right?
[2:01:53]
» Yep.
[2:01:54]
» Yeah. But if we did one, a motion
[2:01:56]
covering just
[2:01:58]
what we would like to do with this lady
[2:02:00]
would probably clean things up for
[2:02:02]
administration, right?
[2:02:06]
» I'm I'm
[2:02:08]
I'm just directing traffic. However
[2:02:10]
you'd like to uh however you'd like to
[2:02:12]
proceed. If Mark, if you if you want to
[2:02:13]
make that a single motion uh to adjust
[2:02:15]
the invoice uh to $1,500. I think that
[2:02:18]
that would I think that would satisfy
[2:02:20]
this for the time being. And then
[2:02:22]
perhaps we could get a second motion to
[2:02:23]
direct administration to bring back uh
[2:02:26]
fire bylaw uh 22-002.
[2:02:29]
Would that be uh agreeable to staff?
[2:02:32]
Okay. So then Mark is Mark, I'll let you
[2:02:35]
use your words. You you go ahead. How
[2:02:36]
you like if it Sorry. Go ahead.
[2:02:39]
So,
[2:02:41]
I would move that we invoice
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the $1,500 for this event.
[2:02:48]
» Okay. Is there any questions or
[2:02:50]
discussion on that motion?
[2:02:52]
» Go ahead.
[2:02:54]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, definitely
[2:02:57]
disagree with the $1,500. We the basis
[2:03:01]
of the 1500 is being prepared on the the
[2:03:05]
who and not the what and we're trying to
[2:03:07]
uh look at it as a young unfortunate
[2:03:10]
person who made a bad decision and we
[2:03:13]
are trying to set not only policy but
[2:03:16]
also everything has an expense and
[2:03:18]
expenses are large. So, um, although it
[2:03:22]
may be unpopular, I'd like to make an
[2:03:25]
amendment to your motion to the $4,500.
[2:03:28]
And if that gets defeated, that's that's
[2:03:31]
okay. But I think that it needs to be it
[2:03:33]
needs to be more and that there um uh
[2:03:37]
yeah, you book an ambulance, you get a
[2:03:39]
bill, you book anything. And to say
[2:03:42]
that, well, I'm I'm not going to go to
[2:03:44]
the hospital. Uh, I just spent time
[2:03:46]
where a 15-minute hospital visit was
[2:03:50]
a,000 bucks. Um, it's a fact of health
[2:03:54]
services. And so, anyway, my motion is
[2:03:58]
an amendment to yours for $4,500.
[2:04:01]
Okay. Thank you, Eric. I'm going to
[2:04:02]
assume that you don't deem that as a
[2:04:04]
friendly amendment, Mark. Okay. Uh, so
[2:04:07]
then we'll deal with the amendment. Eric
[2:04:09]
has amended to change the $1,500 and
[2:04:12]
amend that to $4,500.
[2:04:14]
So if there is there any further
[2:04:16]
discussion on that? Okay, I will call
[2:04:18]
the question on the proposed amendment
[2:04:20]
changing the invoice amount from $1,500
[2:04:23]
to $4,500.
[2:04:25]
Uh any further discussion? I will call
[2:04:27]
the question. Those in favor, those
[2:04:30]
opposed.
[2:04:31]
So that is defeated. We will now go back
[2:04:33]
to Mark's initial motion to invoice uh
[2:04:37]
for this incident in the amount of
[2:04:39]
$1,500.
[2:04:41]
Is there any further discussion? I'll
[2:04:43]
call the question. Those in favor?
[2:04:46]
Those opposed? That then carries. Uh I
[2:04:49]
would now entertain a motion to direct
[2:04:50]
administration to bring back fire bylaw
[2:04:53]
number 220002.
[2:04:57]
» Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would uh like to
[2:05:00]
move to direct administration to bring
[2:05:03]
back an amendment to fire bylaw number
[2:05:06]
22-002
[2:05:08]
to cap recovery costs at uh a specified
[2:05:13]
amount
[2:05:14]
for unusual emergency events
[2:05:18]
um and the events to be very very
[2:05:20]
specific.
[2:05:23]
Okay. Is there any discussion on that
[2:05:26]
motion to direct administration to bring
[2:05:28]
back uh an amendment to fire bylaw
[2:05:31]
202022-002
[2:05:34]
uh to establish a cap and type
[2:05:36]
parameters on the specifics of the
[2:05:39]
incidents?
[2:05:43]
» Just kind of thinking out loud. Thank
[2:05:44]
you. Uh how would you define those
[2:05:48]
special
[2:05:49]
» Yeah, I think maybe just bringing it
[2:05:50]
back would probably
[2:05:52]
» I don't Yeah, fair enough. We don't want
[2:05:54]
we don't need to word smith that. Yeah,
[2:05:56]
» I understand what you guys are
[2:05:58]
» Referring to.
[2:05:59]
» You you're comfortable with that. Just
[2:06:00]
to bring that back.
[2:06:01]
» Okay.
[2:06:01]
» So, uh John is direct administration to
[2:06:04]
uh prepare an amendment to f fire bylaw
[2:06:06]
number 22-00002.
[2:06:09]
Any further discussion? I'll call the
[2:06:11]
question. Those in favor? Those opposed?
[2:06:14]
That carries. Thank you.
[2:06:16]
» Thank you.
[2:06:17]
» Uh thanks, Eve.
[2:06:18]
» Thank you.
[2:06:21]
Uh we have two pieces of correspondence
[2:06:22]
before us today. Uh item one from the
[2:06:24]
National Police Federation.
[2:06:27]
Uh you can read that at your leisure.
[2:06:33]
Uh at the bottom you'll see there's a
[2:06:35]
couple bullet points regarding Alberta
[2:06:37]
Sheriff's uh cease further investment in
[2:06:40]
an advancement to the Alberta Sheriff's
[2:06:42]
Police Service as a replacement RCMP. uh
[2:06:45]
release comprehensive and independent
[2:06:47]
and public available feasibility studies
[2:06:50]
and a number of other bullet points
[2:06:52]
there. Uh like I said, read that at your
[2:06:54]
leisure. And our second item uh
[2:06:57]
correspondence is from the Southern
[2:06:58]
Alberta Chinese Association, the 2026
[2:07:01]
barbecue, uh August 30th, and it's at
[2:07:05]
the Rotary Picnic Shelter,
[2:07:07]
entertainment, food service. Uh and the
[2:07:10]
cost is $25 for adults and $15 for
[2:07:13]
children. letter for are free. If you'd
[2:07:16]
like to attend that, I'm sure we can
[2:07:18]
arrange.
[2:07:20]
Talk to Candace and we'll make that
[2:07:21]
happen. Widler.
[2:07:22]
» Uh, thank you, Mr. Chair. Weren't they
[2:07:24]
also requesting
[2:07:26]
uh a sponsorship instead of the city of
[2:07:29]
Lethbridge? They wanted us to be the
[2:07:31]
sponsor for their page. Or did I misread
[2:07:35]
her email when I got it?
[2:07:46]
No. Yeah. In that in that and there is
[2:07:49]
there is a second um link there. Candace
[2:07:51]
the letter.
[2:07:54]
» City of Lethridge sponsored our event
[2:07:55]
last year. We are hoping Lethbridge
[2:07:57]
County might consider supporting us this
[2:07:58]
year as well if possible. Uh we would
[2:08:01]
include the lo countyy's logo on our
[2:08:03]
poster.
[2:08:08]
I would I would open up to council for
[2:08:09]
if you would like to
[2:08:12]
if someone's interested in pursuing that
[2:08:18]
» Just did it have a figure in it.
[2:08:21]
» There is no financial number. No.
[2:08:26]
» What is our usual donation policy like?
[2:08:38]
couple hundred usually or what would
[2:08:40]
they what would I don't know what the
[2:08:41]
policy would cover.
[2:08:46]
» I would move that we make a donation of
[2:08:47]
$200 towards their request for the
[2:08:51]
poster.
[2:08:51]
» Okay. Uh so Lauren has moved to donate
[2:08:55]
$200. I'm assuming from the counselor
[2:08:57]
discretionary
[2:08:59]
or from where would you like that to
[2:09:01]
come from?
[2:09:04]
Council donation.
[2:09:06]
» Okay. From the council donation fund.
[2:09:09]
» That's okay.
[2:09:10]
» Yep. Okay. Uh so Lauren has made that
[2:09:13]
motion. Is there any discussion?
[2:09:16]
» Okay. I'll call the question. Those in
[2:09:18]
favor? Opposed? That carries. Okay.
[2:09:21]
Thanks, Lauren.
[2:09:23]
Uh okay. I think that takes us to the
[2:09:26]
end of our public meeting for now. We do
[2:09:29]
have our 11:30 delegations. Uh we do
[2:09:32]
have a few uh larger items to try and
[2:09:34]
move through and close. So why don't we
[2:09:37]
move into a closed session? I would
[2:09:38]
entertain a motion to enter a closed
[2:09:39]
session. Mark Mark has moved to go into
[2:09:42]
a close session at 11:11 this morning.
[2:09:45]
Any discussion
[2:09:46]
called question? Those in favor
[3:28:59]
Sound
[3:29:12]
good? Okay. Whenever you're ready. Okay.
[3:29:15]
We'll call the meeting back to order at
[3:29:17]
12:30 this afternoon. Uh we have two
[3:29:20]
items remaining for discussion in close
[3:29:21]
session. Item three, uh intermunicipal
[3:29:24]
matters, ATIa section 26, disclosure
[3:29:26]
harmful to intergovernmental relations.
[3:29:28]
And item four, uh, CA report ATIA
[3:29:31]
sections 19, 20, 28, and 29. So with
[3:29:35]
that, I'd entertain a motion to enter a
[3:29:37]
close session again. John John is moved
[3:29:39]
to go to close session at 12:31 this
[3:29:41]
afternoon. Any discussion? I'll call the
[3:29:45]
question. in favor.
[4:26:57]
out a close session. Uh, we have one
[4:26:59]
item.
[4:27:01]
Uh, John,
[4:27:04]
thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to move
[4:27:06]
that Lethbridge County support the
[4:27:08]
proposed Green Acres Foundation to
[4:27:10]
borrow $10 million for the $26 million
[4:27:13]
capital project of the affordable
[4:27:15]
seniors apartment building at 105
[4:27:19]
Kathina Boulevard West Lethbridge
[4:27:23]
and that Lethbridge County understands
[4:27:25]
that the request for $10 million in
[4:27:28]
external financing requires ministerial
[4:27:31]
approval and the Lebridge County
[4:27:32]
acknowledges that under the Alberta
[4:27:34]
Housing Act
[4:27:36]
Uh member municipalities continue to be
[4:27:39]
requisition to fund operating costs of
[4:27:41]
seniors lodging facilities.
[4:27:45]
John has made that motion. Is there any
[4:27:47]
discussion?
[4:27:49]
I'll call the question. Those in favor?
[4:27:52]
Opposed? That carries. Anything else
[4:27:55]
with our public meeting today?
[4:27:58]
» Eric is adjourned at 128.