[13:44] Good evening. >> Good evening.

[13:46] » Good to see a house full sometime. Welcome to the Liberty County Board of

[13:51] Commissioners first Tuesday meeting. Yes, for your information, we also meet

[13:56] on third Thursday at 5:00. And of course, all of our meetings are live

[13:59] stream and certainly invite the public to either watch us live stream or to

[14:02] come sit in and just kind of get a view of what's going on from this side.

[14:06] There's nothing better than being close to it so you have a better understanding

[14:10] of how county works. I spoke with the group on earlier it was Monday

[14:16] um leadership group and um in fact the feedback from them was they they were

[14:21] not aware at all of our processes. People think you can just jump and do

[14:25] things you can't do. They when it's in government and they learn to the

[14:29] government doesn't move fast. It takes time to get things done but it does

[14:32] move. It does move like a model T does move. So good to have you all here. Mr.

[14:36] Wilson, has the media been profit advertised?

[14:39] » Yes, sir. >> All right. Uh Bishop Paige, will you

[14:42] please come? Mr. Kennel Page, man [snorts] Christian Center,

[14:45] [clears throat] will you please come and lead us on the invocation? We will stand

[14:47] please for the invocation and the pledge.

[14:53] [snorts] Let us pray. Most holy and righteous

[14:57] God, we come to you today. Thank you for this day. We thank you for the county

[15:01] commissioners and all the assistants to the board. We pray for the their

[15:06] families. We ask you for the wisdom and guidance as they conduct this meeting.

[15:12] Give them a clear mind and sound judgment on the community issues. We

[15:18] pray that the commissioners act as good shepherds who protect and care for the

[15:23] residents with equality. We ask for peaceful communities and support for

[15:28] their families of all our public servants. We even God pray for our

[15:34] students as they begin this school year. It's in Jesus name we do pray and give

[15:39] you praise. Amen. >> Amen.

[15:42] Pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[15:47] republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and

[15:53] justice for all. >> I held it down by myself. Don't worry.

[15:59] » Thank you, Mr. Paige. Good to have you, sir. Thank you for being committed to

[16:03] doing that for us. And thank you for the prayers to cover us and of course our

[16:07] school children who started back today. I went to one of the J ones and it's

[16:15] it's interesting, but we pray for them all. All right. Uh,

[16:20] commissioners, let's see. I do know that Commissioner

[16:23] Gillard said he may be on the way. I hadn't heard from Commissioner Wal.

[16:28] Sometime he calls him, I haven't heard from him. Okay. We're still praying to

[16:31] for him for his recovery. Uh July 20 26 meeting minutes need to be approved by

[16:39] you commissioners. >> I'll move Mr. Chair.

[16:41] » Second. >> Motion second. We approve the minutes

[16:43] for Let me get the base right. July 7th. >> That's right. We only had one meeting.

[16:49] That's Did y'all miss it? The one meeting. We didn't have a meeting last

[16:53] night. >> No, we did not. [laughter]

[16:56] » I missed y'all. >> A motion and a second to approve the

[17:00] July 7th minute. Any further discussion? There being none. All in favor, show of

[17:03] hands, please. All right, those minutes are approved. Thank you, commissioners.

[17:07] A proclamation for Dr. Mary W. Murray. She's in the house. Good to see you.

[17:14] Who's on? Normally, he reads it, but somebody generally comes to give us a

[17:17] little little lead into it. Is that you? Uh, Dr. White, are you the you the

[17:22] leading man?

[17:27] » Good afternoon, um, commissioners and those that are present. We

[17:31] [clears throat] are here to honor um Dr. Mary W. Mary uh for 44 years of active

[17:38] educational services to our students um on Fort Stewart and beyond. Uh she has

[17:44] been a blessing not only to the student body at Fort Stewart, but she's also

[17:48] been a blessing to this community because one thing about it, those

[17:51] students that are over on Fort Stewart, when they graduate out of middle school,

[17:55] they're coming over to our uh community, either Bradwell or they're coming over

[18:00] to Liberty County High School. So, it is an honor that she has just recently

[18:05] retired >> from 44 years and we just wanted to

[18:09] honor her [applause] as we

[18:14] That that's a double four. >> Yeah, double four as we prepare to

[18:18] really honor her in a celebration on this coming Saturday um her retirement

[18:22] ceremony. So that's why we are here on this afternoon to pro to have a

[18:27] proclamation from the board of commissioners in order to be able to u

[18:31] present that to her on Saturday. >> All right, stay right there. Mr. Mos,

[18:37] Dr. Murray, will you please come stand next to Mr. White?

[18:43] and

[18:48] » come on.

[18:52] » Thank you. Appreciate that. >> Come on.

[18:55] » These kind of things only happen once in a lifetime sometimes.

[18:58] » Just a little bit. >> All right.

[19:00] » Proclamation. A proclamation honor Dr. Mary W. Murray for extraordinary

[19:04] contributions to education, leadership, and youth empowerment. Whereas Dr. Mary

[19:10] W. Murray has devoted her professional life to advancing education, developing

[19:14] future leaders, and empowering students through teaching, mentorship,

[19:17] scholarship, and service. And whereas Dr. Murray faithfully served as the

[19:21] official academic dean of the National Collegiate Music Conference

[19:25] headquartered in Charlotte, North Carolina, providing academic leadership

[19:29] and guidance to more than 1,000 high school college students nationwide each

[19:33] year, inspiring academic excellence and personal achievement. Whereas Dr. Murray

[19:38] has demonstrated exceptional leadership in higher education, serving as a junk

[19:42] dean at Jacksonville Theological Seminary from 1998 through 2008, where

[19:47] she authored and developed the course effective communication, which continues

[19:51] to prepare students with the communication skills essential for

[19:54] leadership and professional success. And whereas Dr. Murray has further

[19:59] distinguished herself as a proctor for Liberty University and adjunct professor

[20:04] for Union Institute University and an accounting instructor at Savannah

[20:08] Technical College, sharing her knowledge and expertise with students pursuing

[20:11] high higher education and career advancement. And whereas Dr. Murray has

[20:16] further uh distinguished career education spans more than four decades

[20:21] including 33 37 years as a teacher with department of defense education activity

[20:26] schools four years in public school system and three years as director of

[20:30] child development services in Mahan Germany positively impacting thousands

[20:35] of students families and educators around the world and whereas in

[20:40] recognition of her exceptional leadership professionalism and

[20:43] unwavering commitment to academic excellence Dr. Murray was honored as the

[20:47] 2013 2014 teacher of the year at Diamond Elementary School, Fort Stewart, by the

[20:52] Department of Defense Schools. And now therefore, be it proclaimed that the

[20:56] Liberty County Board of Commissioners hereby recognize and honor Dr. Mary W.

[21:00] Murray for her extraordinary lifetime of service to education, her unwavering

[21:05] commitment to youth development, her leadership in higher education, and her

[21:08] tireless efforts to proclaim scholastic opportunities and empower young women to

[21:13] achieve their academic dreams. Be it further resolved that the Liberty County

[21:17] Board of Commissioners extend a sincerest gratitude and appreciation to

[21:20] Dr. Mary W. Murray for her remarkable contributions to the citizens of Liberty

[21:24] County, the state of Georgia and communities throughout the nation and

[21:28] wish our continued health success and many more years of impactful service and

[21:33] witness thereof. I here to have set my hand and cause the seal of Liberty

[21:37] County, Georgia to be fixed this fourth day of August in the year 2026. Donald

[21:42] L. Love Levit chairman. [applause]

[21:49] » We'll do a photo op, Dr. Murray. But first, you greet us in your own way.

[21:55] » Y'all making me talk. It's all good. I want to say thank you so much for your

[22:00] for the opportunity to serve Liberty County. I do consider Liberty County,

[22:04] Fort Stewart, Liberty County. And I also have taught in Liberty County as well.

[22:08] And this is my son, Larry. And uh it's been a privilege and it's been an honor

[22:13] to serve and to educate children and students that are now professionals in

[22:18] their own right. Some principles, some uh doctors, some are lawyers, some are

[22:23] nurses, some are police officers. And if one pulled me over, they like that you

[22:28] Dr. Murray. Yes, that's me. [laughter]

[22:31] But never mind. Y'all figure out how. [laughter]

[22:34] But I want to say thank you so much for this opportunity because it's my service

[22:38] after moving back here from Germany with my husband and I serving in Mannheim,

[22:42] Germany for six years, still educating and directing other people to do what is

[22:47] necessary to do to make sure that they're getting the skills that they

[22:50] need. I want to say thank you to the commissioners for this opportunity.

[22:53] Thank you. >> Yes,

[22:58] » commissioners want to say thank you. >> Thank you. I tell everyone, you know,

[23:02] not only did you all make Liberty County your home, but you've been involved, you

[23:05] know, giving back. So, we appreciate that. You all make Liberty County a

[23:08] better place. Now, >> General, you got you got to come around.

[23:12] » Come around. Come around. >> Yeah. Y'all come on up to the podium.

[23:37] Thank you so much. >> How you doing, sir?

[23:44] » Dr. Your pleas right here. >> Yes, sir. Thank you so much. I

[23:47] appreciate it. Congratulations. >> Thank you. Appreciate it.

[23:51] » Hold on to that with me and look at those

[23:58] Can we see everybody guys?

[24:05] » Everybody good? >> Give her another hand.

[24:12] » Long life of >> Thank you.

[24:13] » good health and prosperity. >> Thank you so much.

[24:16] » Thank you.

[24:20] » 44 years. >> Amen.

[24:24] You better look 44.

[24:32] » All right. Uh, we have an excite exciting project happening in Liberty

[24:36] County in the in the Wall Thville area that some of us are witnessing the

[24:43] progress of it. So, uh, the city of Waltharville had a I would say in not

[24:48] inservice, but a briefing did. So, I said, "Well, it's a county project.

[24:52] bring them to the camera so we can hear about the progress on Independence

[24:56] Parkway. So, Mr. Tim McCauley and Roia Der are coming to present on

[25:01] Independence Parkway phase one.

[25:06] » I can't follow that. [laughter] How about 30 years?

[25:14] » Projects going great. uh on schedule, way over budget like everything

[25:21] government nowadays. Uh >> they'll anticipate completion now

[25:27] December of 27 instead of October, end of

[25:32] October. So had a few changes just um building through a swamp is an

[25:39] experience and job looks great. Um very proud of it. uh

[25:46] Department of Transportation seems to be they told me it's a poster project for

[25:51] erosion control and prevention and construction progress. So, as project

[25:57] manager for Atlas, you know, I take that as an honor. But as long as I keep my

[26:02] bosses happy, I'm doing good. So, >> project's going great. Um

[26:08] I brought you a set of the um final marking and signing plans. If it would

[26:16] be something any of your constituents had any questions for y'all that maybe

[26:21] you could u have something

[26:32] » if you' be so kind to send this to that gentleman electronically.

[26:36] » Ma'am, >> you send send this to that gentleman

[26:38] electronically. Email it to him so we'll have a a

[26:43] digital copy. >> I sure can.

[26:45] » Digital copy. Okay. >> Uh tell me about Griffin Road. I read

[26:49] that. >> What can I Does anybody have any

[26:52] questions they'd like to know or can I answer?

[26:54] » You had to close off Griffin Road. Tell us about that.

[26:57] » What? >> You had to close off Griffin Road.

[26:59] » Griffin Road. Okay. That's part of the construction that was in the original

[27:03] plans where >> culde-sacs on each side which is going

[27:07] to limit you know no through crossing over the new roadway.

[27:12] » Um everybody will have to go down to Carter Road to access

[27:16] » which is far out way but >> we had to utilize Griffin to close

[27:21] Carter here month and a half ago. We got Carter. Everything's done on it

[27:26] except final surfacing. Um, curbon gutters in. Um, utilities have been a

[27:34] challenge, but I part of the business and Trent Long has been a blessing to

[27:41] our project on what he contributes his knowledge and his team coming out and

[27:46] helping and providing us information on locations of

[27:51] plans of where they think that everything's

[27:55] supposed to be. We've had some issues with utilities, but um overcame them so

[28:00] far. >> Bridge is uh we should pour our first

[28:05] deck middle of August. Um so that's

[28:11] progressing nicely. Um had a lot of changes and a lot of money

[28:16] spent on foundations changes because building through a

[28:20] swamp. [clears throat] [snorts]

[28:25] had no data, you know, for the

[28:35] great contractor, Reeves Construction.

[28:41] DOT's gave me a good team to do the inspection work and

[28:46] one of my young guys lives here in Liberty County. So,

[28:55] Mr. Long,

[28:58] when you say you ran into the uh issues with the foundation,

[29:07] Trent told us it's going to be the longest bridge in Liberty County that

[29:09] you're building. >> So, my point is, is there something from

[29:14] this project that we can learn so we don't have the same problem with phase

[29:17] two? It's going to even even more more wetlands and

[29:23] The hard part was where they are now. There was really no access. There was no

[29:27] way to get any kind of boring equipment or any kind of equipment to test before

[29:32] they got clearing and before they stand

[29:49] up. We may not have

[29:56] gallery have bridge quite this long because this bridge is over

[30:02] swamp and bridge over railroad

[30:17] » the issue with utilities is just

[30:22] » location location location >> location

[30:25] » you know a lot stuff that we put in we put in 20 plus years ago or 30 plus

[30:30] years ago and you know the the records are not there or the institutional

[30:36] knowledge of people not knowing where things are or not knowing what sizes

[30:40] things are. It's really difficult

[30:46] especially when you don't have record drawings or anything to fall back on and

[30:50] the guys that installed it all they were tired or gone on

[30:58] it's a challenge challenge tren [clears throat]

[31:03] while you standing there u you probably heard this before coming from me

[31:09] you working with them all 119 all the way throughout, right?

[31:14] » Yes, sir. >> And you know, have we not see any

[31:19] additional way of widening 119? >> So, that'll be a different project.

[31:24] [clears throat] >> Okay.

[31:25] » Okay. >> What we've been doing is consistently

[31:27] requesting >> we have

[31:30] » DOT

[31:33] actually we've been requesting every [laughter]

[31:42] has some passing lanes on especially crossed

[31:52] and you really can't get around anybody if somebody

[32:00] » because actually they will get out there and run past a school bus that's stopped

[32:05] and that's making it real dangerous. Um, Chief Hagen told me they're going to

[32:10] install cameras on the school buses >> so it will take your picture if you

[32:17] » Okay. So, December of 27. >> Okay.

[32:23] » One other question for him. Chairman, explain Tibet road to me. When you come

[32:27] off of Dun Levy, when you go into in front of Bakerton Church, when you get

[32:32] up there, how is that going >> coming off Dun Levy? Um, you'll still be

[32:38] able to go across Tibbit in front of Bington Church

[32:42] and then continue. >> So, there will be a stop sign there.

[32:48] » Yeah.

[32:52] There's a portion of 119 that's going to be totally removed past the housing

[32:57] development.

[33:04] Everything coming up is going to come down the new roadway to Tibet road and

[33:09] have to make a left or a right. Now to get to Riceboro off of Dun Levy, you'll

[33:16] have to go through the fourway and then make a left to

[33:23] I think some of those final marking.

[33:31] [clears throat]

[33:34] Let's see it all.

[33:37] Okay, >> I take you up on that. Any other

[33:40] questions for these gentlemen? Uh that's project is very special to us. It's our

[33:46] first bypass. >> U and of course with the traffic that we

[33:49] have now going through our community. We looking for anything to help to relieve

[33:53] that because that's just a part of it. We got phase one is what you all doing.

[33:57] We got to work toward getting phase two done so it's a complete uh bypass for

[34:03] some of the traffic going through here.

[34:08] » All right. All right. >> Good time

[34:12] to come out.

[34:16] » Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you, gentlemen.

[34:18] » All right. >> Some of you, Mr. Murray.

[34:26] Good evening, board of commissioners. Good evening, everyone. Larry Murray

[34:29] here, youth coordinator for uh Liberty County. Um under the leadership of Mr.

[34:34] Joseph Mosley for seven years. I've been doing this for eight years now under

[34:37] leadership of Mr. Jo Joseph Mosley for seven years and Miss Lisha Hunter for

[34:42] year one. I mean, this her year, this her first year, so we've been working

[34:44] well together. She's been pushing me as well, too. So, to take this thing to

[34:47] another level. And so, um really quick, I just want to thank y'all for

[34:51] acknowledging my mom giving her proclamation. We I didn't realize that

[34:54] we were going to be in the same building today. She We were at breakfast today

[34:57] talking about it, but I didn't realize we were going to be here together. So,

[34:59] [laughter] we walked up here today. So, I thought

[35:02] it was pretty cool. So, shout out to my mom. 44 years of education.

[35:05] » Be on your best behavior. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. [laughter] Oh, yeah.

[35:08] I'm always on my best behavior. She had no issues at me. She never had any

[35:11] issues at me. >> But yeah, she's the reason why I'm even

[35:14] doing these these things today. [clears throat] So, I um I thank her for

[35:17] the push and I just thank uh the community for backing it up. All right.

[35:19] So, I'm here today to present some certificates for our summer youth

[35:22] employment program uh from this year. And we just want to thank everybody that

[35:26] participated uh this year and helping out and taking an intern because that

[35:29] mean a lot. They were they were able to grow. They enjoy themselves. Um and

[35:33] they're looking to come back next year. All of them want to come back, but I

[35:35] know that means we got to try to figure out some some way to, you know, um make

[35:38] it happen. All right. So, first we got tax commissioners office right here. Um

[35:43] tax commissioners, y'all here today? We want to present you with the

[35:45] certificate. Y'all come on. Y'all y'all take the certificate.

[35:50] We have Alexis and voters registration. They're here. They're here as well, too.

[35:54] » Thank y'all again. Thank y'all so much.

[35:59] » EMA here.

[36:01] » Mr. Mr. Murray, let them all stand. Let >> all we'll take a we'll come down after

[36:06] y'all everybody get to me. I'll just make a There you go.

[36:10] » Look at the camera. >> Uh assessor's office.

[36:16] » Assessor's not here. it.

[36:21] » Oh yeah, he's ready. Look at him. Look at him. [laughter]

[36:26] » Look at him. He ready today. >> I was wondering why he had on that tie.

[36:32] [laughter]

[36:35] » I love it. Keep Liberty. Beautiful. >> Oh, yeah.

[36:43] » Um, recreation department. I think I about to say I saw him. Come on.

[36:48] » Finance department.

[37:03] » No. >> You want to stand next to your sister?

[37:05] [laughter]

[37:10] » Chamber of Commerce. >> Probably at some other meeting office.

[37:16] communications. Y'all, this just shows that we have a lot of support here,

[37:19] y'all. They're not here, but it's okay. DA office, district attorney,

[37:24] » diversity help. No, she's not here. >> Highville housing authority.

[37:29] » No, extensions office. Poor

[37:34] » child support services. >> We had a lot of help this year. City of

[37:39] Clemson,

[37:42] » city of Midway, [clears throat]

[37:45] City of Walkville. >> Yay.

[37:48] » In the house. >> All right. Had to.

[37:51] » They all enjoy themselves. >> They they winding down dying to turn

[37:55] that. [laughter]

[38:01] » Oh yeah. Oh yeah. >> She said now she said that that's the

[38:05] best intern that she's ever had. So that was that was amazing to hear. So

[38:10] » you put it [laughter] all. All right. So that's all the That's

[38:14] all the recognitions for um our mentor for for our summer employment program.

[38:19] So I guess we're going to take a picture.

[38:20] » Let's come down commissioners and join

[38:23] » this apicious group.

[39:09] Everybody pull one of these like to the side. Hold

[39:27] [applause]

[39:35] the back for you. [laughter]

[39:45] » [laughter]

[39:53] » You want me to start off with you?

[40:02] » We thank all them for making an investment in our young people.

[40:07] Look for the fruit thereof. >> Barely.

[40:12] » You service update, Miss Hunter. And >> yes, sir.

[40:15] » Yeah, there he is.

[40:18] » Commissioners, um we would like to do our um annual youth services update for

[40:24] Liberty um County Youth Commission and the summer um youth enrichment

[40:29] employment program. And I just want to say as my first year um working with the

[40:34] program, I think it has been a huge success. One thing that um we need to

[40:38] mention about the summer employment program, we had more mentors than we had

[40:44] students this year. >> Wow.

[40:45] » And so that is a win. Yeah. >> And so we're excited about more

[40:49] participation. We had um we could not even place the number of students that

[40:56] some of the mentors wanted. Some some some asked for as many as four. And so

[41:00] we were able to do three for some, but numerous. And and so if you were able to

[41:06] attend the um graduation, you saw that they did real work. They put in real

[41:11] work this summer. [clears throat] And so I just wanted to again thank everyone

[41:14] for their support. Thank everyone for their participation. And we look forward

[41:18] to kicking off a brand new year. And I turn the presentation over to Mr.

[41:22] Murray. and I just wanted to acknowledge him for all the hard work that he has

[41:26] been putting in and um efforts made to take the program to the next level.

[41:30] » Thank you, Mr. Murray. [applause]

[41:35] » All right, so I'm going to be brief um summer employment program. We go ahead.

[41:41] » Okay, I got

[41:47] » All right, so our summer employment program program overview. All right. So,

[41:52] our mission is to provide summer employment opportunities for local youth

[41:54] ages 14 to 18. All right. So, our goals include skill development, workforce

[41:59] experience, community engagement, and the program runs annually each summer

[42:03] since 2016. All right. Partner with multiple county departments. So, like

[42:08] again, we thank y'all. We appreciate y'all for supporting us this year.

[42:12] All right. So, our 2024 season, so we were able to come up with some data um

[42:16] that we can um present to you all from 2024 to 2026. All right. So, 24 we

[42:21] launched and expanded partnerships with county departments and serve 23 uh

[42:25] students and participants across 12 work sites. All right. So that's when that's

[42:29] when we started off I mean that's back in 2024 we introduced structured

[42:32] workshops on workplace etiquette and professional development. And in 2025 we

[42:37] grew enrollment 20 by 27 participants. We added smart goals and envisioning

[42:41] workshops team building activities and enhanced facilitator training. So we

[42:44] invited more facilitators to come and um help us out when they come in on Mondays

[42:49] for their training. And we strengthen community engagement through guest

[42:52] speakers. So we bring in guest speakers such as 4 and different people of

[42:55] finance to come teach different things like that to help them grow. And then

[43:00] jump into 2026. Uh this year right here we we were able to serve 29 youth and we

[43:06] had new initiatives. So we included leadership cohorts, project based

[43:09] learning and expanding partnerships with local business and businesses and

[43:13] nonprofits. So, we were able to have more support like Miss Hunter said, we

[43:16] were to have more um support this year and well, we had more mentors than

[43:21] students this year. So, that that was amazing. I thought that was pretty

[43:23] pretty cool. All right, so here here's the data right here. Um we have

[43:29] applications have grown steadily. So, everybody's hearing about it. And when

[43:33] we started off in 20 well, not when we started off, but in 2024, uh we were at

[43:38] we grew by we grew by 23 applications. So, we had 3 applications

[43:44] that by 23 um

[43:49] let me make sure I say that right. Yeah, we had 35 in 2024 to 74. Yeah. So we

[43:53] grew to 74 applications >> um in 2026. So from 2024 to 2026 we went

[43:59] from 35 to 74. There we go. >> And and and that shows that everybody I

[44:05] mean youth need something to do. You know they they they need training. They

[44:08] they wanted they actually in the interview process they wanted to get a

[44:11] job. They get out the house, you know what I mean? Some of them they said

[44:14] their parents made them, but I mean, but they got something from it. They really

[44:18] did. I mean, they came in here and they was excited about each thing that we

[44:21] have for them each day. All right. So, interns by age. All

[44:25] right. So, age 15 is is the largest at 26%. And then while ages 14 and 17 are

[44:31] equal represented at 23% each, age 16 accounts for 20% and age 18 is the

[44:37] smallest group at 8%. All right? So, that's reflecting diverse participation.

[44:42] all eligible ages. So like again like we said from 14 to 17. So

[44:49] I believe yeah we went from 14 to 18. So we even had we had 18 we had two 18 year

[44:54] olds that participated in the program as well too. So they were able to come in.

[44:57] Matter of fact we had a guy that um he participated for five years with us. So

[45:02] yeah. So he he wanted to come each year. So um he even though he had other jobs

[45:06] he was still coming in here getting that training from us as well too. So we

[45:09] still deem this as very important to him.

[45:15] Now interns by gender. Now female interns represent 65 program

[45:19] participants while males intern make up 35%. So this highlights strong female

[45:24] participation and that reflects the program's inclusive outreach across

[45:28] Liberty County. Right. So some key program insights. So

[45:34] we had a steady increase like like we mentioned before. We had a steady

[45:37] increase in applicant interest from 2024 to 2026. We had a consistent hiring

[45:42] aligned with program capacity. Um balanced age distribution ensures wide

[45:47] youth engagement, strong female represent representation um um

[45:52] reflecting inclusive outreach and then growing community support for youth

[45:56] development. So these are key program insights right here for our summer

[46:00] employment program. And then now we're going to jump into our Liberty County

[46:05] Youth Commission. All right. So, this is our impact and growth report right here

[46:08] from 2024 to 2026.

[46:13] All right. So, with our Liberty County Youth Commission in 2024, we had 12

[46:17] particip 12 participants. So, that was eight, we had eight young ladies and

[46:21] four young men and that grew as you can see by the [clears throat] chart right

[46:24] here. So, in 2025, we had we went up by four participants.

[46:28] So, we had 16 participants, 14 young ladies that grew. They they just started

[46:33] coming in, you know, the word started getting out. We started doing a little

[46:35] bit more outreach and we have 14 young ladies and two young men. And then in

[46:40] 2026, we grew a little bit more as you guys can see right here. In 2025, we we

[46:45] grew by 33% and then in 2026 we had 17 participants, 15 young ladies and then

[46:50] two young men. So we're trying to get the young men up in here. You know,

[46:53] we're trying to get them trying to get them enrolled in here. And then so this

[46:56] shows that um participation grew by 41% since 2024. All right. So that shows

[47:03] that we retention and growing engagement reflecting a strong foundation and

[47:07] expanded impact across county. All right, so our demographic break

[47:12] break down by grade level. So in 2024 we had two ninth graders, four

[47:17] [clears throat] um 10th graders, uh three three juniors and three seniors.

[47:21] So we had a total of 12 participants in in 2024. In 2025, we

[47:27] didn't have any nth graders, but we had six 10th graders, five 11th graders, and

[47:32] five seniors. And so we had 16 participants and then in 2026 we didn't

[47:36] have any more nth graders again like I said and then five five 10th graders and

[47:41] five five juniors and seven seniors. All right. So this report right here shows

[47:46] that juniors and seniors represent 71% of 2026 youth commission. So

[47:51] highlighting strong upper classman participation in leadership. So we our

[47:54] upper classman they were taking charge the whole way. You know they were

[47:57] excited about coming in and they were coming in consistently. I mean I think

[48:00] it was because of food. So, so we have food, we provided food from East here to

[48:05] the board of commissioners. Um, and I believe that food piece right there,

[48:10] that's >> feed.

[48:16] Yeah, they they need the food, >> food and community.

[48:20] » So, the key takeaway right here, our youth commission is engaging students

[48:23] across multiple grade levels with steady growth in strong senior participation,

[48:26] driving leadership and impact. All right, so community partnerships and

[48:32] local impact. So in 2024 through 2026, we were able to organize blanket uh

[48:37] drives and jacket drives for community members experiencing home homelessness

[48:41] and serve as active volunteers during the annual walk for the homeless events

[48:44] in both 2024 2025 with another chance another chance outreach ministries. Um

[48:50] the CEO is right here obviously Urban White. So we were able to coordinate

[48:54] that with him and um do those drives for the homeless. And then in 20 2024 2026,

[48:59] our youth commissioners were able to um partner with the life side empowerment

[49:04] uh to uh serve as academic mentors, assisting youth with homework and

[49:09] educational support. And in 2024 to 2026, they volunteered on

[49:14] site to prepare serve prepare and serve hot meals to local families for the mana

[49:18] house. So they've been very active and this this is just a portion of our what

[49:22] they did, but they did a lot more than this. All

[49:28] right. So, civic engagement is state level advocacy. All right. So, we we

[49:32] take annual trips to the to the state capital. Um in 2024 and in 2025, we were

[49:38] able to collaborate and join with the city of High School Youth Commission and

[49:42] collaborate, you know, collaborating networking with the Fton County Youth

[49:45] Commission, Youth Commission. Shout out to uh Commissioner Fraser for setting

[49:49] that up for us. We were able to, you know, get them engaged and, you know,

[49:52] get them networking with different youth. So, I I think that's very

[49:56] important. All right. And in 2026, we continue regional partnership with Joint

[50:00] Capital Vist alongside alongside Fton County Youth Commission. All right. So,

[50:05] the youth, they look forward to the state capital trip every year. We we we

[50:09] take the charter bus. We go up here. Like I said again, I mean, we travel in

[50:12] luxury. They enjoy the experience. They even talked about spending the night,

[50:15] but we like we get there. We get there. All right. So, we're empowering you

[50:20] right here. Direct engagement with state leaders and legislative processes.

[50:24] Thank you. All right. So, we want to thank you for your support. Seriously,

[50:27] we want to thank you for your support. Um, board of commissioners for allowing

[50:31] us to be able to have these programs right here with our summer employment

[50:34] program and our Liberty County Youth Commission. I believe we're going to

[50:36] grow it each year. I mean, you see that the steady the steady increase every

[50:40] single year. So, thank y'all again.

[50:45] [applause] I

[50:46] » I would like us, Miss Hunter, to to investigate this this whole male versus

[50:52] female thing. Is it the same with the city of Heinesville and Riceboro? Let's

[50:55] look at that. >> Let's look at that.

[51:02] » All the populations had >> and then secondly, I was thinking maybe

[51:09] could is there some opportunity for synergy with Liberty County working with

[51:13] Riceboro working with Hinesville, the three groups working

[51:16] » doing some kind of >> Yes, sir. Yeah. Um just so you know we

[51:20] have discussed that with the two of them and they're open to [clears throat] that

[51:23] in terms of us um we said the first thing we do we have a meeting regroup

[51:26] and see what our opportunities are and then um the other thing is even with um

[51:31] Chattam County um we have a um long established youth commission right there

[51:35] in Chattam County and when you ask the youth what they desire what they want

[51:38] they will tell you be prepared and so that's one thing they said is that we

[51:42] would like to see what other youth commissions are doing so they're looking

[51:45] for that engagement also And so the um [clears throat] one thing about the trip

[51:51] to the capitol, it wasn't just a visit. We want everyone to know that they

[51:55] toured the capitol, they engaged with legislators, and they went over to Fton

[52:00] um youth commission and they had a debate. They had to prepare and they

[52:05] experienced a debate on certain issues that was set up with them. So it was

[52:09] work put into it. So um but u I would be remiss not recognizing the entire team

[52:15] that helped all of this flow. And so we Mr. Larry Murvy who is the youth

[52:19] services coordinator but then in terms of the applications and helping with the

[52:24] calendar institutional knowledge we have Miss Laura W she would please stand with

[52:28] HR.

[52:33] We have Miss Jessica who is on the team and doing work. Stand up.

[52:39] And I want to say the backbone that holds it all together. the students, the

[52:44] meals, the paperwork telling us what we supposed to do and when we supposed to

[52:49] do it as Miss Monica Ratcliff

[52:54] [applause]

[52:56] commissioners, thank you for the support because we talk about infrastructure and

[53:00] you know your people are your greatest asset but when you rest in youth that is

[53:03] also development and your infrastructure in the future. Thank you.

[53:07] » Thank you all. [applause]

[53:12] I didn't know A few of the kids were

[53:16] kept on by their um respective agencies for employment at

[53:22] heard. >> Also, you're a validictorian and

[53:26] » validatoran both. There we go. >> You commission

[53:31] at Liberty both of shuts now.

[53:39] So the deadline is August 12th. Right now we have a couple applications in but

[53:43] I do have the ones that participated in the previous years. I had them engaged

[53:47] already. So they're already they had got the applications in. I totally get in.

[53:51] So we already have about a hub of like 12 already that's ready to come in. And

[53:55] then I even got an email yesterday about a parent want to get their child in. So

[53:59] I mean they're hearing about it. They want to get in. They want to be a part.

[54:02] » Let's work on that young men thing. I'm kind of concerned about that. Yeah. We

[54:05] need to get more at least 50/50. You know

[54:09] » that's a goal. We'll go. >> Mr. Chair, sir, I I don't know if y'all

[54:12] were taking questions or not, but >> you ready, Mr. Murray? How you doing,

[54:17] sir? >> Uh, first and foremost, I I guess Miss

[54:20] Hunter, you know, she she she said the protocol, you know, uh not just you, but

[54:26] the entire team. I I appreciate y'all uh taking on this this heavy task and and

[54:31] delicate task, which is our our our youth. Uh yeah, man. Y'all have been

[54:37] doing an awesome job, you know, uh, and this program has been growing ever since

[54:42] we have, you know, implemented. And I guess that was just a small snippet of

[54:47] the, uh, statistics, you know, that was just from 2024, but it just shows the

[54:52] the engagement between us as from the county, and I appreciate my fellow

[54:57] commissioners supporting this. uh y'all know how dear this is to my heart, but

[55:02] also with with the community once they really found out about the program and

[55:07] and and the different uh parts, you know, not just the youth commission, but

[55:12] the summer internship program. And like you said, some of them have been able to

[55:15] stay on with the county from being initiated in this particular program.

[55:21] So, it's not like they are, especially now, definitely now, it's not like

[55:25] they're they're putting the youth in the corner and just, you know, telling them

[55:29] to just do some busy work. They really are being engaged. And just like you

[55:32] said, uh Justin, our our Yeah, he graduated and still stayed on to be a

[55:39] part of this program this year, wi-i, which is is phenomenal. Um but then also

[55:44] I I guess the question that I have uh whenever you're looking at these numbers

[55:47] from the applicants versus hired and I know the chairman asked that question as

[55:52] well about doing a more of a collaboration you know to make sure that

[55:57] because at from 2024 whenever you know we had 35 applicants and we hired 23. Uh

[56:06] but in 2025, if y'all noticed, the increase in applicants was much greater.

[56:12] It was 62 applicants, but we were only able to hire 27. And then of course this

[56:18] year we had even more. We had 74 and we hired 29. So I guess the question I have

[56:24] uh for you all in the future, how how do we how do we narrow that gap? Because of

[56:31] course, you know, we all have different programs. Uh I I don't know how many I

[56:38] don't know the statistics with the city of Riceboro about how many applicants

[56:42] they have with with how many they're hiring and vice versa with the city of

[56:46] Hansville. >> But I know I think the city of Riceboro

[56:49] this year they had what 30 if I'm not mistaken. And Hansville had do you

[56:54] remember the numbers? >> 47.

[56:56] » They had like 47. Right. So, I I guess I guess what I'm getting at is if if we do

[57:02] more of a a collaboration to make sure that some of these kids and we we don't

[57:07] know some of these kids might have applied for here and also, you know, uh

[57:11] the city of Hansville. We don't we don't know that. But the point is, you know,

[57:16] giving our youth the opportunity, you know, because and I'm glad this this was

[57:21] done because, you know, a lot of times we hear all the negative about our youth

[57:24] in this community, but just to know that we do have have a lot who are stepping

[57:28] up and and and because of you all and in the [clears throat] team with Liberty

[57:33] County. So, I appreciate that. But if we can look at like what the chairman said,

[57:37] you know, what you commission, you know, to try to balance the, you know, the

[57:42] diversity with that, but more importantly to just make sure that that,

[57:46] you know, we're able to to hire more kids, especially if we're saying that we

[57:50] have more mentors who were asking for positions. So, I guess what what do

[57:55] y'all need from us? Money. >> That's I mean, that's the only way we're

[57:58] going to be able to hire hire, right? >> That's absolutely right. Because we do

[58:02] pay the internship. So I I guess if we could look at in the future narrowing

[58:07] that gap, I guess the only way we could do it is with financial support from

[58:11] from the county and the county commissioners. So thank you all again

[58:14] for everything y'all do. >> Thank you, M.

[58:20] » All right. Financial report. Speaking of money.

[58:26] » Oh, Larry, I'll see you in the morning. First day.

[58:30] » First Presbyterian. >> Oh, okay. Let me start tomorrow.

[58:34] » Uh good evening, Mr. Chairman, commissioners.

[58:36] » Good evening. >> I'm here this evening to present the May

[58:40] 2026 financial statement. Uh starting with the general fund

[58:45] through the end of May, we have collected already 100% of our projected

[58:50] revenue and we have spent approximately 86% of

[58:56] our total expenditures for the year. We currently have 6.6 months in our

[59:04] unreserved fund balance compared to a year ago we had right at six months. So

[59:11] it's a it's an increase from last year. Turning over to the departmental report

[59:19] for budget to actual. Um we have a a few that are still showing over over budget

[59:25] through May. um elections has a small variance. Um

[59:32] however, this this was covered by um the revenues received for our municipal

[59:38] elections. Um so it it pretty much is a wash. Actually, it's a more revenue than

[59:44] it is a loss. Um Superior Court, we always pay those um law, library, and

[59:50] other operating expenses in July um upfront. So that's going to show over

[59:54] budget every single month until we get through June. Um the road department, we

[1:00:00] mentioned previously uh for some equipment repairs

[1:00:05] and recreation for um part-time and seasonal employees.

[1:00:11] Turn the page to solid waste. Um through the end of May we have approximately

[1:00:19] 1.1 million of revenues over expenditures.

[1:00:23] We have collected 93% of our total revenues for the year and spent right

[1:00:29] around 71% of our total expenditures. Um there are currently no departments

[1:00:38] showing over budget for solid waste.

[1:00:45] I I just have one question about the solid waste. Uh I I know we we reset the

[1:00:51] fees and we said it was going to be uh a few years before we

[1:00:57] » it balances out. Correct. >> Correct. Yes.

[1:00:59] » So, but this is not a year though, is it?

[1:01:02] » I mean, we're uh it's we're collecting more for sure, right?

[1:01:07] » The increasing the assessments and the the rates that are charged by solid

[1:01:10] waste. Um We haven't fully recovered um from our previous you know where the

[1:01:16] general fund had to support solid waste >> right so

[1:01:19] » years ago >> what what year are we invest years

[1:01:27] » we're anticipating >> what year should we turn it around

[1:01:30] » right >> I thought she was going to turn it

[1:01:33] around >> I don't think fully in this uh rate

[1:01:36] study that we've done I don't think we fully get back to zero it just steadily

[1:01:40] increases each year so we can pay the general fund back.

[1:01:44] » Following up on that question, how do we what's the word?

[1:01:49] » How do we compensate for that or how do we

[1:01:54] » difficult >> when it come when it comes to

[1:01:57] accounting? What do we do? because you're right. It was years of

[1:02:01] » Yes. And and we were told then that we probably

[1:02:05] » um I really think it's prevalent for a lot of different counties um that have

[1:02:10] solid waste collection and >> um are in a similar boat than we are.

[1:02:15] » Um if we feel that we can't pay back the general fund then we might just have to

[1:02:20] do you know a transfer um just to get rid of the debt if there's no way

[1:02:25] possible to repay it. Um even though the solid waste fund intends to and fully

[1:02:30] intends to um if it's just not possible then we might have to do a write off of

[1:02:35] some it all sir. >> That's what we did years ago.

[1:02:38] » So you're looking for like a timeline or when if that happens can can we look in

[1:02:43] the crystal ball and say it could probably happen in year five year six

[1:02:48] anything like that? >> Um I think we should start looking into

[1:02:52] writing a little bit off every year. >> Okay. Okay. Um we we're sitting

[1:02:56] currently I think at 3.9 million that they owe back to the general fund.

[1:03:00] » That's a lot. >> Um when I first started almost four

[1:03:02] years ago, it was right at 3 million. >> Yeah.

[1:03:05] » So it's not hugely more um but it's it's not going down for sure.

[1:03:09] » And I mean another thing that we can't predict is the repairs to his uh

[1:03:14] Clinton's equipment and things that go down that are unanticipated. Um also

[1:03:19] increase expenses each year. >> Do you Mr. Chairman, do you is that

[1:03:24] where you see the most expenses at is on the equipment or is it the amount of

[1:03:30] trash that's being dumped at these convenience centers?

[1:03:33] » Um, the largest is salaries, but I think

[1:03:38] what is that vendor?

[1:03:47] Just like >> Oh, what? You're paying to haul it out

[1:03:49] of >> haul it out. We have a contract that

[1:03:51] hauls the trash from the transfer station

[1:03:54] and that's that's a big expense on a big expense.

[1:03:58] » When we did the fee recalculation, did did we allowed

[1:04:03] for the increase he's talking about also?

[1:04:07] » We did. >> Were we on target or were we

[1:04:12] » is it more than what we budgeted for? Well, we never when the solid waste

[1:04:17] assessment was done, I don't think there was enough money ever figured into it

[1:04:20] » to pay the county back to >> downtown

[1:04:24] figured enough in there so we could chip away at it.

[1:04:26] » But you wanted to pay back that money. >> Yeah.

[1:04:30] » It's going to hurt. >> Yeah. [laughter]

[1:04:33] » On the assessment and what we would have to charge people and

[1:04:36] » all that good stuff. >> Okay. you know, county run for a long

[1:04:39] time without assessments and just trying to fund it through general fund.

[1:04:44] » Okay. >> That's how we got where we're at.

[1:04:47] » Okay. >> Come out and everything. We try to make

[1:04:51] all that work. Trying to chip some of it down, but

[1:04:55] while you're standing, sir, how's your equipment?

[1:04:58] » Equipment's good. That's why I'm here tonight to replace one. We We're trying

[1:05:01] to keep it up, keep everything replaced and keep it going on the sanitation

[1:05:04] side. You >> able to keep up with your the mowing?

[1:05:08] No, I'll be back next mid month [laughter]

[1:05:14] of year. >> Mr. Chairman,

[1:05:19] » Mr. Chairman. >> Yes, sir.

[1:05:21] » Mr. Mosy. >> Yes, sir.

[1:05:22] » Do you care to elaborate on the uh status of the uh Limick

[1:05:31] » Limick uh landfill? >> I can I do it on my report? I do have it

[1:05:35] in here. >> Okay. All right,

[1:05:37] » Frank. I And I'm glad you kind of mentioned that because because what I'm

[1:05:41] saying is and I know we did the new assessment,

[1:05:44] » but prior to to us having a transfer station, we had a landfill, which

[1:05:49] obviously we don't have that anymore. So,

[1:05:52] » we still have we still >> Exactly. It's just not active or

[1:05:57] whatever you want to say. >> And they tell you you close it and

[1:06:00] you're after 30 years they release you. They don't release you,

[1:06:03] » right? Yeah. Yeah. But uh I I I guess I'm

[1:06:10] But you were saying a couple years ago we were at three and now we're at 3.9.

[1:06:14] So So we're going opposite way. >> I I know we looked at even with the fees

[1:06:18] with the uh

[1:06:22] the you know the big >> the hauling bins.

[1:06:25] » Hauling bins. Yeah. The dumpsters. >> Did we increase all that? The problem

[1:06:30] with the assessment there for a while is we didn't increase it. There was no

[1:06:34] money >> I remember

[1:06:36] » to say every year we're going to go up to 3% or 4% or whatever the public

[1:06:41] charges us >> that it was never stuck in there. Now

[1:06:44] the last time we've done it we made every year it's an increase to try to

[1:06:50] keep up.

[1:06:54] » So you improve your assessment >> you improve your processes.

[1:06:58] » Okay. >> When we they first had the assessment it

[1:07:01] wasn't built in there. >> Yeah. You know, we didn't change it, but

[1:07:05] for five, six years, whatever commission decided to

[1:07:08] » hire Coberson to redo the study. So, that put us five years back behind right

[1:07:14] back. So, I thank you. I thank your comment about uh doing the graduate

[1:07:19] write off is in order. Another organization I had to do that

[1:07:24] same kind of thing for that reason. Otherwise, it's going to keep showing

[1:07:27] up, >> right?

[1:07:28] » Yep. And I believe that really it goes back to when Miss Mclofflin was here. It

[1:07:33] does. >> We We had that.

[1:07:35] » It's always been here. >> It's Yeah, it's always been there.

[1:07:39] » Good idea to try to pay back. But >> Yep. Yep.

[1:07:42] » But in the meantime, let's just make sure that our fees are where they need

[1:07:44] to be, you know, so that we don't get behind when it comes to

[1:07:47] » when we done the last study, it was put in there for yearly increases.

[1:07:51] » Okay. Okay. I remember that. Okay. >> Right. Right. The only thing I was

[1:07:56] saying, Mr. here. You know, at the end of the day, that's a enterprise fund.

[1:07:59] So, that's supposed to be separate and being able to maintain

[1:08:03] » by itself. And if that's not being the case, we

[1:08:07] » it's okay for us to re-evaluate and and and see which way we need to go.

[1:08:14] » All right. >> I guess that's enough trash talk.

[1:08:16] » Thank you, Mr. Wills. >> All right.

[1:08:22] Um moving on to the sales tax reports for sales tax 7. Uh in the month of May

[1:08:28] we collected 1.2 million. Um we have spent 30.8 million in SPLAS

[1:08:36] expenditures. Um of our total 42.8 million that we've

[1:08:41] collected. the next report including

[1:08:46] » when is it time for the next loss reporting to the public kind of report?

[1:08:51] How often is that required to be done here? Just one time a year or

[1:08:55] » the one time a year by law state? >> Oh yes sir.

[1:08:58] » Have we done it for 2026? >> It's by December 31st.

[1:09:02] » Okay. Okay. >> Let's just make sure we announce that

[1:09:04] when it done so the public can know they can access that. Okay.

[1:09:07] » Yes sir. Once we get a little further in the audit

[1:09:10] » and concrete >> numbers. Thank you. Uh the next report

[1:09:15] is the T-spos report and this is just being included for um project tracking

[1:09:22] purposes and the report subsequent to that is our

[1:09:27] T-spos 2 report. Uh we received our first um distribution from the state in

[1:09:35] the month of May. Uh it was just shy of 1.1 million and um we're off to a pretty

[1:09:41] good start. Uh we will continue to collect this tax

[1:09:45] through March of 2032.

[1:09:51] The last page of your packet I've included a summary of floss um that the

[1:09:57] county has collected and distributed through um through May.

[1:10:03] And the county share of collection through May is 2.8 million of the total

[1:10:08] 4.6 million collected. And that concludes my presentation for

[1:10:14] May. Unless you have questions. >> You may want to educate some off members

[1:10:18] of the audience about what floss is. >> Floss is um a sales tax that was

[1:10:24] approved on the November 2025 referendum um that is strictly to be used to apply

[1:10:31] directly to um the general funds operating budget to in lie of property

[1:10:36] taxes. So, it has to 100% be applied um to offset property taxes. So, the state

[1:10:44] originally um told us we had to collect it for a year before we're able to use

[1:10:49] it and distribute it. Um but they recently um have changed the law to

[1:10:55] allow allow us to colle to recognize anything we've collected through June um

[1:11:00] into our current upcoming millage um and digest calculations. So, it will it will

[1:11:07] we'll have five months of of help um this digest and then next year we'll

[1:11:12] have the full 12 months. >> Make sure everybody clear on that.

[1:11:19] » We look forward to that.

[1:11:23] » I think questions everyone in Liberty County are looking forward to it.

[1:11:26] » Right. I I just have a quick question to uh Mr. Long. I can't see. Okay.

[1:11:33] Oh. Uh, since we're talking about SWAT projects,

[1:11:37] he's next on the agenda. >> Yeah, I know. But okay.

[1:11:41] » Let him come on and do it all in. >> There you go.

[1:11:42] » Thank you, M. Smith. >> All right.

[1:11:48] » Yes, sir. Get want to get your question in. There we go. Before you

[1:11:52] » uh wonder start.

[1:11:56] » So, uh, sales tax is not on any one of my agenda items. So you want to go ahead

[1:12:01] and answer that question kind of as a tail end to hers. I'll be

[1:12:04] » okay. >> Yeah.

[1:12:06] » So ask me the question again. I want to make sure I understand.

[1:12:09] » Uh the uh live vote. >> Yes sir. We have a contract executed

[1:12:14] with contractor. Um we had anticipated that he was going to be here last month.

[1:12:18] » Uh when we were delayed in executing contract with him, he took a couple of

[1:12:22] school projects >> finishing those school projects up so

[1:12:26] the school could get started. And so I'm hoping in the next couple weeks he

[1:12:29] should be there. Okay. >> But we are constantly calling him and in

[1:12:33] contact with him to make sure he's getting going.

[1:12:36] » All right. [clears throat] Uh and I contract do we have a we have an

[1:12:43] end date, right, that he's [snorts] supposed to

[1:12:45] » That's right. And I don't remember what the starting date.

[1:12:49] » Okay. >> I do have it written down, but I just

[1:12:53] don't have stored up here. >> That's fine. I It was just on my mind

[1:12:56] when she started talking about >> No, I'm glad you asked. So, um, I'll

[1:13:00] make sure that when I'm back up here on the 20th, I we have all that done

[1:13:04] together.

[1:13:08] » Okay. So, I have two items on the agenda tonight. The first one is deed to

[1:13:11] dedication of the roadways in Habsham development. Um, which is roadway

[1:13:16] subdivision that built a couple years ago. The warranty periods have expired.

[1:13:19] Uh, we've taken them over for maintenance and accepted them. Uh, so

[1:13:23] the only thing that we haven't done is accepted a deed to dedication. Um,

[1:13:28] packet. Everybody should have a copy of the dedication which describes the

[1:13:31] roadways um that gives us this

[1:13:38] make sure we have the roadways. We've already accepted them as far as the

[1:13:42] final plaque goes and just need your action to go ahead and accept the deed

[1:13:46] of dedication.

[1:13:49] Commissioner Blunt, this is in your area. You want to take the lead on that,

[1:13:51] sir?

[1:13:55] » The writer work for H Plantation. Make

[1:13:59] » a motion we move forward. >> Motion to second we move forward as

[1:14:03] presented. I heard any further discussion. All in favor, show hands,

[1:14:06] please. >> I do.

[1:14:10] » All right, Mr. Law. Thank you very much. The second item I have on the agenda is

[1:14:15] u applying for a grant for water infrastructure.

[1:14:19] water infrastructure planning program. I'm going to give you a little bit of

[1:14:23] background and make sure that everybody understands what we're looking for and

[1:14:26] what we're trying to do. Um, you know, for last several years, we have really

[1:14:31] looked hard as a county as to how we're going to provide water and sewer to the

[1:14:36] county. Not just our service delivery area that city that Liberty County has

[1:14:41] in county, but you know, the other cities and municipalities within the

[1:14:45] county. We've had a planning group that we've met for the last couple years

[1:14:48] trying to figure out how to do that. Um, we've got some technical ideas of how to

[1:14:52] do it. Um, we have the technical expertise around here to try to make it

[1:14:56] happen. But one thing we've [clears throat] found is we don't know

[1:15:01] the model that it really needs to look like. Are we bunch of individual uh

[1:15:08] water and sewer system going head first? Are we a community pulling together

[1:15:14] within sort of authority? I use that term lightly.

[1:15:21] Where do we fall? And you know, we we've been unable to put our hands on that

[1:15:26] process. Um, and we've had several meetings uh to discuss it. We've

[1:15:32] actually u gone out and got some proposals from some kind

[1:15:37] they're engineering firms but they're more uh planning firms that have

[1:15:42] knowledge in this business on how do you get from a bunch of individuals

[1:15:49] water sewer systems to providing uh water and sewer to our communities

[1:15:55] and to our citizens in the area because you we're

[1:16:00] really strapped with water and sewer availability. Um we're really strapped

[1:16:05] with the amount of water we can withdraw out of the aquifer. Um we have a lot of

[1:16:10] permitting things that are fluid. So the water and sewer planning commission

[1:16:16] planning the water and sewer technical committee for the water council.

[1:16:23] Sorry I'm struggling to say the right words. Um, what we recommended doing was

[1:16:29] hiring a consulting firm that can help us walk through that process, meet with

[1:16:35] us and help us decide what's going to be best for us because it's not going to be

[1:16:40] just Liberty County deciding. It's going to be the city of Hinesville, city of

[1:16:44] Riceber, the city of Walterville, city of Midway, city of Flemington, city of

[1:16:48] Gum Branch. We all need to kind of come together on how we're going to handle

[1:16:52] water and sewer for our community. So, We have the opportunity with a very

[1:16:57] wellqualified firm. Um we also have a new program that JEA has

[1:17:04] put out. It's a um called the water infrastructure planning program. It's a

[1:17:08] grant up to $250,000 with two or more communities in it. 150

[1:17:13] for one community. Uh in this case, we're looking at multiple communities uh

[1:17:18] going after it. It is due at the end of this month. Uh, and what we would like

[1:17:22] to do is apply for this grant and this county would be the lead on it since

[1:17:29] we're kind of the seat, the county seat and we have all the cities with

[1:17:33] underneath us. Um, there is a 10% match and we're also applying for maybe some

[1:17:39] seed grants. Um, or we're looking at other options to try to fill that gap

[1:17:44] with that 10% uh [laughter] that we have to have, which is would be $250,000, not

[1:17:50] 200 250,000 total, $25,000 match.

[1:17:56] [clears throat] Justin, you have to catch me if I say the wrong thing again.

[1:17:59] I apologize. >> I'm I'm tracking.

[1:18:02] » So, um, we're looking at trying to get funding for all of this. So, but the

[1:18:08] county needs to be the lead agency in the application for the project. Um, so

[1:18:14] what I need is the county's permission for us to move forward as the lead for

[1:18:18] this application to Jifa for the grant funds 250,000.

[1:18:25] » Questions for Mr. Long. >> Have one question. You may you may have

[1:18:30] mentioned it. Um, this would be a countywide

[1:18:35] your technical group and whatever. You're [clears throat] looking

[1:18:38] countywide, not just in a certain area. >> Yes, ma'am. We're looking countywide.

[1:18:42] » Okay. That's what I >> We're trying to make sure it's a

[1:18:44] holistic of how are we going to serve our citizens.

[1:18:47] » Okay. As um community leaders,

[1:18:54] the time has come in our county for us to work as a collective body when it

[1:18:58] comes to water and sewer. We can no longer continue to plan long term to be

[1:19:04] individual providers. >> Long terms, it needs to be a a joint

[1:19:10] venture countywide. So, it's maybe maybe a slow trip getting there, but if we

[1:19:15] never start, we'll get we'll never get there. So, so

[1:19:20] um the $25,000 match, I mean, I would think

[1:19:24] that we could we could all get together and do that. I believe we could,

[1:19:28] » but you need permission to go ahead and and apply for the grant with the

[1:19:32] county's lead agent. >> Okay,

[1:19:34] » that's what we need. >> Who's we have several of us cities and

[1:19:38] counties that are moving 90 miles an hour down the wrong path trying to get

[1:19:42] something. >> Yeah.

[1:19:45] » For the same good. >> And you're right, that's something that

[1:19:49] that the experts do not. We may have ideas, but that's not our pay grade. We

[1:19:54] have the technical ability to do the work with engineers that are here, but

[1:19:58] we need somebody to kind of help us >> pull it together.

[1:20:01] » Okay, >> Mr. What's your pleasure?

[1:20:04] » Mr. Chair, again, I'm I'm in support of it, but uh you know, we've had this

[1:20:08] conversation about like I said, you know, we have the technical committee

[1:20:12] and I think Mr. ODM remember as well >> when we used to meet with the the the

[1:20:18] water resource council >> and and and I remember we suspended our

[1:20:23] meetings years ago because you know other municipalities were kind of doing

[1:20:27] their own thing and again I don't is are we back together? Y'all back y'all are

[1:20:34] I'm just not a part of it. It's fine. I just want to make sure that y'all doing

[1:20:37] it. >> No policy.

[1:20:39] » There's a policy and a technical >> Yeah. Commissioner Frasier, they had to

[1:20:44] You're right. Committee had went defunct and was

[1:20:48] » I reception. >> Listen, that that's what

[1:20:51] » I'm I'm I'm used to not not being on policies committed.

[1:20:56] » I'm on it. >> Yes.

[1:20:58] » Okay. >> And I would have to serve with the

[1:21:00] chairman of it, but I tell you what, I can be term limited.

[1:21:03] » Well, originally whenever you you became chair, that was one of the

[1:21:08] » hand it off. and you handed it off to me and and I I held the torch until the the

[1:21:13] torch went out. >> But

[1:21:16] I I guess y'all y'all lit the match back up.

[1:21:20] » But but but either way, again, whenever we we discussing water

[1:21:26] and I know you didn't want to use that water authority, but you know, that's

[1:21:29] what most I know in the state of Georgia, that's that's where a lot of

[1:21:33] people are going. And more importantly, they it's more of a regional concept

[1:21:37] with that, too. So, >> and there are more models out there

[1:21:40] other than just an authority [clears throat] that you know we need

[1:21:43] help >> to figure out what fits for us

[1:21:46] » because we need to find what fits for us. We don't need to find what fits for

[1:21:49] everybody else fit for us. >> And I'll say this and I um some of the

[1:21:54] smaller cities that have taken on a lot of debt concerned about what happen if

[1:22:00] we all come together as one big do we pay each other's bills or how does that

[1:22:04] part happen? So, we got a lot of >> working to get through. I I remember

[1:22:08] that was >> difficulties that was one of the

[1:22:09] » complexities >> that was one of the issues.

[1:22:12] » Yeah. >> With policy.

[1:22:14] » Remember this is this issue kind of woke itself back up at the planning retreat

[1:22:18] last year. >> Right.

[1:22:19] » Right. >> Good. All commission chair take a

[1:22:24] request a motion. Do we serve as the lead agent for the

[1:22:28] funding? >> I'll make that motion. Chair.

[1:22:31] » Is there a second? Commissioner Blunts make the second. Any further discussion?

[1:22:35] We look forward to it. All in favor, share your hands, please. Uh, if should

[1:22:39] we get the grant? Any idea what the timeline? I know it's probably too early

[1:22:42] to ask you that. >> Yes, sir. They won't announce in for a

[1:22:45] couple months. >> Okay. September.

[1:22:48] » No, it's it's August. Yes, it's it's due at the end of this month, so

[1:22:55] » it probably won't be until November, December.

[1:23:00] » You think we look good for >> I think so. Yeah, when I look at the

[1:23:04] criteria and we're looking at multi cities doing it getting together for it

[1:23:09] and we've gone through the quality of based selection for

[1:23:17] » so and I think we'll be a step ahead by having some of these task accomplished.

[1:23:23] Thank you for your leadership in that sir.

[1:23:25] » Thank you

[1:23:30] holiday extravaganas presentation.

[1:23:35] Samantha Mr. Steven Rachel Smith I see some young folks.

[1:23:41] » Y'all gang up on us tonight.

[1:23:46] » Hello. >> Hey.

[1:23:58] We got support. >> Good evening, ladies [clears throat] and

[1:24:00] gentlemen of the Liberty County Board of Commissioners. My name is Samantha. I am

[1:24:05] [clears throat] here with the whole team [laughter] that our committee um and

[1:24:11] then we also have here our director Raymond Gross and Mr. Ricky Gillard. Um,

[1:24:17] so we are looking to host a holiday extravaganza for not just Liberty

[1:24:22] County, but also the surrounding counties around us. This will take place

[1:24:25] on December 12th from 5 to 9 in the evening at the James Brown soccer

[1:24:31] fields. Um, we are just looking to do something big for the community, include

[1:24:37] the kids, include sports, include the chorus, just have a whole extravaganza

[1:24:44] as we're calling it. Um, the way that we anticipate getting funds for this is

[1:24:49] that we're going to be selling booth spots. Now, this is a change on the

[1:24:53] handout that you all have. We did lower the price and we do have

[1:24:58] options. So, for $25 that will cover a blue spot for nonprofits,

[1:25:06] $45 for profit and county and city departments, they are free. We just ask

[1:25:11] that they either provide a holiday activity or a holiday style um

[1:25:20] what >> activity or a giveaway. Yes. Um we also

[1:25:26] are going to look to have sponsors. We have four different tiers um between the

[1:25:30] prices of $250 up to $1,000. Um, our sponsors, we have a list of them

[1:25:36] already, but we are looking at the big companies here in Liberty County and the

[1:25:41] surrounding counties, small businesses, but also anyone that's looking to give

[1:25:46] to the community in some way for our holiday extravaganza. We will be

[1:25:50] reaching out to you all as well. So, if you do see one of our smiling

[1:25:54] faces, please do give us the time. Um, our activities that we look to have are

[1:26:00] pictures with Santa, the chorus or chorus performances. We're going to

[1:26:05] reach out to two or three different schools to see if they can provide our

[1:26:08] chorus to sing at least two or three different songs with holiday themes. Um,

[1:26:13] we also are going to have a live DJ and a snow party.

[1:26:19] We are going to have an outdoor movie. And then our biggest one that we're

[1:26:22] going to have is our fireworks show. We did meet with the fire marshall to get

[1:26:27] approval for this, which he said that was okay, but we do still have to submit

[1:26:32] our plans for it. Um, we will have food trucks and also a free beverage

[1:26:38] concession. Um, the food trucks, we're only looking to have five spots and they

[1:26:42] will pay $80 um to be a part of our extravaganza.

[1:26:48] » That is all that I have. >> That's a lot.

[1:26:51] » That's a lot >> question for this ambitious group.

[1:26:55] » [laughter] >> Uh you you think the uh parking is going

[1:26:59] to be sufficient? >> Yes, sir.

[1:27:01] » Have a good turn up. >> Yes, sir. Although we will have to block

[1:27:05] some parking off. We can use some of our grass space. Um there is a map that is

[1:27:12] attached on the back here that shows where we will be roping off some area,

[1:27:17] but the rest of it is open for the public to park in.

[1:27:21] » How about I'm just thinking out loud. parking assistance. You think

[1:27:25] everybody's going to behave and park where they need to park or you gonna

[1:27:28] have to have some parking marshals kind of people out there?

[1:27:32] » We will have security and we are going to reach out to the Heinesville Police

[1:27:35] Department to um assist us with that. >> Mr. Giller, you want to add something?

[1:27:41] [laughter] >> We will provide at LIT um and then we

[1:27:47] can transfer over to the event. >> Okay.

[1:27:50] » All right. All right. How are you going to market this?

[1:27:55] » So >> marketing plan

[1:27:57] » besides for our beautiful committee doing word of mouth marketing, we are

[1:28:01] going to push it hopefully through the um through the newspaper as well so

[1:28:05] people can see it and on our social media. Um we feel as if all of us do

[1:28:09] have some sort of presence on social media to where we can get this out for

[1:28:13] free. >> Are you plan to work with the chamber at

[1:28:17] all?

[1:28:20] » Yes. Yes, we do. Um, Miss Chantel was just telling me we also are going to

[1:28:24] work with the radio stations to put this out.

[1:28:26] » Okay. And the chamber has people go to look at the chamber's calendar a lot of

[1:28:30] time for advance. So, make sure it's on. >> Yes, sir.

[1:28:35] » What you need from us to bless it? >> Yes.

[1:28:38] » Commissioners, any question before we bless it?

[1:28:44] » Obviously, they appreciate y'all uh being innovative.

[1:28:48] Look forward to December the 12th. >> The 12th. Yes, sir.

[1:28:53] » Firework show will start at 8. >> And it already seems like we Well, we

[1:28:58] haven't voted yet, but I'm assuming they support it. But just uh for FYI, they

[1:29:03] did run it by the uh rec board as well and it was uh a unanimous support. So,

[1:29:10] just let y'all know. >> Good to hear that.

[1:29:14] » I'm not sure. We need to vote. Um, is it just

[1:29:20] » I think it' be a good idea. >> You think it would be a good idea?

[1:29:22] » She entertain a motion to approve the presentation from the aircrd

[1:29:26] subcommittee of the committee on holiday extravaganza.

[1:29:29] » Move, Mr. Chair. >> Second.

[1:29:31] » First annual. [clears throat and laughter]

[1:29:34] Any further discussion? All in favor, show hands, please. All right. Thank you

[1:29:38] so much. We look forward to it. >> Have a good evening.

[1:29:44] » When you come deep, man, you Yeah, [clears throat]

[1:29:51] » keep powerful. >> Looks good to you. All you guys being

[1:29:55] together looks good. Looks good. >> We need to go to public hearing, Miss

[1:30:00] Marty. Chair a motion to go in public hearing for reszoning.

[1:30:05] » So move second. >> Phrase your move. All in favor, show

[1:30:10] your hand, please. All right. Okay. You make proceed.

[1:30:14] » Good evening, commissioners. Chairman, I'm here to present uh two petitions,

[1:30:20] one for resoning and one for conditional use. They are number 2026-25

[1:30:25] LC and 2026, excuse me,-26

[1:30:29] LC. The zoning request was submitted by Zachary Gilstraat to reszone 5.29 acres

[1:30:36] from A1 and AR1 to C3, which is highway commercial, for a contractor's yard for

[1:30:42] moving, transport, and hauling services. A conditional use request has also been

[1:30:47] uh submitted for the contractor's yard. The property is located on Leroy Coper

[1:30:53] Highway in unincorporated Liberty County and it is in district 4.

[1:30:58] The public notification what was in the paper and posted on the sign

[1:31:04] and the vicinity map. So, um, this is not too far from the intersection with

[1:31:09] Coastal Highway and it's not too far just north of Fleming Loop.

[1:31:16] A little closer. This is the property here. A couple

[1:31:20] years ago, this parcel and the one next to it were cleared

[1:31:26] the zoning map. So, this parcel right here is also zone C3 and it is a fencing

[1:31:32] contractor's yard. Not too long ago, the county reszoned this parcel here to

[1:31:37] industrial one for a concrete plant. And so we are then looking to reszone this

[1:31:42] to the same as this one as C3. Currently the front part of it is the AR1 and the

[1:31:48] back part is A1. The future land use map does show the

[1:31:54] front. There's a mixeduse urban corridor, I'm sorry, mixeduse rural

[1:31:58] corridor along both sides of Leroy Kofheer Highway and then beyond that is

[1:32:03] agricultural forestry as a future land use for this area.

[1:32:08] There are no wetlands on the property nor are there any flood zone hazards.

[1:32:16] The track that we're talking about, the 5.29 acres is part of a subdivision

[1:32:20] along Leroy Kofer Highway. This is the last one. Uh track A in subdivision.

[1:32:29] So the narrative submitted with the resoning application is the proposed use

[1:32:33] for all 5.29 acres would be to store commercial vehicles, containers, and

[1:32:38] equipment for moving, transport, and hauling services. The equipment would

[1:32:42] look look like some of the following. So you have a moving van here. You have

[1:32:46] another piece of equipment here. Quite honestly, I'm not sure what that is. Um

[1:32:50] you have a storage container, some excavation equipment. Um, all the

[1:32:54] vehicles on the property would be operable and would have a dumpster on

[1:32:57] site for trash collection.

[1:33:08] Ran out of slides. Oh, there you go.

[1:33:38] Can he drive it or >> I can work off of this. It's just not as

[1:33:43] large. >> So, the concept plan, sorry, it won't

[1:33:46] fill the whole screen. >> Um, so Leroy Kofheer is right here. They

[1:33:50] uh they will pretty much be using the entire limits within some boundaries uh

[1:33:55] with buffers around the outside. There is an existing culbert here that they'll

[1:33:59] be utilizing and then uh pulling in a gravel road off of that. The front part

[1:34:03] will be where a dumpster will be kept for the trash. And in this area will be

[1:34:07] parking for the other equipment associated with the business.

[1:34:13] This is Kofheer looking up towards I'd say it's about a mile from Coastal

[1:34:17] Highway looking north. and closeup of the property that as it

[1:34:22] looked uh last month. They have recently I notice I drive by

[1:34:27] there every day. They did have some equipment in here doing a little bit of

[1:34:30] clearing, but that's how it looks today from the other side of the road.

[1:34:35] So, going through the zoning analysis, does this property have reasonable

[1:34:39] economic value as currently zoned? Yes, it does. The the proposed use conforms

[1:34:44] to the Fort Stewart joint land use study. Um, does a proposed use conform

[1:34:49] to the Liberty County comprehensive plan? Yes, it does. The comprehensive

[1:34:53] plan identifies a future land use as mixeduse rural quarter and egg forest

[1:34:58] forestry in which C3 is a compatible zoning district.

[1:35:03] Will there be an adverse effect on the value and usability of nearby

[1:35:07] properties? No, there will not. Is the proposed use suitable in view of nearby

[1:35:11] uses? Yes, as I pointed out, there is another contractor's yard very close by

[1:35:15] and then that future concrete plant um just up the road. Will the zoning

[1:35:21] proposal create an undue burden on transportation and on schools,

[1:35:25] utilities, or the provision of public safety? This won't be a site really that

[1:35:30] um that customers come to. It'll just be employees of the business and G dot will

[1:35:36] have to approve the entrance for the site.

[1:35:41] Will this allow a short-term gain at the expense of our local long-term goals?

[1:35:45] No, it will not. Would this cause a domino effect? Yes, very likely. In

[1:35:50] fact, this is probably one of the dominoes that has already been started

[1:35:53] by other resonings in the vicinity. Are the unique historical sites which

[1:35:57] may be adverse impacted? There are none noted.

[1:36:01] Is this parcel of a flood hazard area? No, it is not. Is it spot zoning and

[1:36:06] unrelated to the existing pattern of development? No, it is not. and there

[1:36:10] are no unique conditions which support approval or denial.

[1:36:16] That takes us through our resoning analysis. And now I'm going to move on

[1:36:19] to the conditional use criteria for the contractor's yard. You shall not

[1:36:24] adversely affect the economic values or physical appearance of the neighborhood

[1:36:28] or areas surrounding the site or lot in question. No, it will not have an

[1:36:32] adverse effect. The use shall be consistent with the comp plan and with

[1:36:37] the purpose intent of the land use district. Yes, as is mentioned in the

[1:36:40] zoning reasonzoning analysis, the comp plan identifies this property as

[1:36:44] mixeduse rural quarter and uh egg forestry in which the zoning and is uh

[1:36:51] comp compatible zoning district and misuse is allowed in that district.

[1:36:55] The establishment, maintenance or operation of the use shall not be

[1:36:58] detrimental to or endanger the public health, safety or general welfare. No,

[1:37:03] it will not be detrimental. This will not create an undue burden on

[1:37:08] transportation, schools, utilities or provisions of public safety. This was

[1:37:12] also addressed in the zoning analysis. No, it would not create an undue burden.

[1:37:16] The design shall minimize adverse physical and environmental effects on

[1:37:20] adjacent properties, including adverse visual effects. Buffer zones were

[1:37:24] necessary to shield any adverse factors shall be considered.

[1:37:29] This um this was one of the main ones that was up for discussion when it was

[1:37:33] before the planning commission was the adverse visual effects. And so to

[1:37:37] minimize these adverse effects, the property shall have a 20-oot vegetative

[1:37:41] buffer and six foot high opaque fence along property lines.

[1:37:46] Additional space for parking, landscaping, and adequate measures for

[1:37:49] ingress and egress shall be considered if necessary to protect adjacent

[1:37:52] structures or lots from any adverse impact. No additional space is needed

[1:37:56] for those items. This was before the planning commission

[1:38:01] last month. There are two separate motions that are needed. The reasoning

[1:38:04] needs to be um action on the resoning needs to be taken first because without

[1:38:08] the proper reasonzoning the conditional use becomes moot. So um the planning

[1:38:13] commission did recommend approval of resoning petition 2026-25-LC

[1:38:19] with standard and special conditions. The special condition is a 20ft

[1:38:25] vegetative buffer and 6 foot high bench shall be required along the side and

[1:38:30] rear property lines. The planning commission also did

[1:38:35] recommend approval of the conditional use 2026-26-LC

[1:38:40] with standard and special conditions. And the special condition here is a 20ft

[1:38:46] vegetative buffer and six foot high opaque fence shall be required along all

[1:38:50] property lines. Now, there's a slight distinction between the special

[1:38:53] conditions on the resoning and the conditional use. The feeling was the

[1:38:59] logic was that for a reasonzoning, should this use go away or never happen,

[1:39:05] it still would be zoned C3 and C3 does allow other uses that might want some

[1:39:10] visibility from Leroy Kofheer. So, that's why the reszoning special

[1:39:14] condition is that that buffer and fence have to be maintained only along the

[1:39:18] sides and rear. However, for the conditional use, they felt this specific

[1:39:23] use should be screened from Leroy Cover as well. So that's why the special

[1:39:27] condition would be applied only to this conditional use and require that

[1:39:31] screening and buffer along all sides.

[1:39:37] » Explain that. Okay. [clears throat] >> All right. One says along some of the

[1:39:43] property, other one says all around the entire property.

[1:39:46] » Yes. The reasoning would be special condition that anything that's on that

[1:39:49] property has to be at least re screened on three sides.

[1:39:52] » Okay. >> For this particular use, it would have

[1:39:55] to be screened on all sides. >> With this particular use?

[1:39:57] » Yes. For this particular, it goes with the conditional use, not with any use of

[1:40:01] the property. Just >> they were to sell it off and everything.

[1:40:03] It go three sides. >> Is the petitioner here?

[1:40:06] » Yes, sir. >> Would that person please come and give

[1:40:09] us a two-minute overview of your project, please, sir? Hello, sir.

[1:40:13] » My name's Zachary Gilstra. I'm the owner of College Hunks, hauling junk and

[1:40:17] moving. Now, that truck you saw is actually what we call a junk truck.

[1:40:20] Holds about 440 cubic feet of residential trash. We're kind of the

[1:40:24] middleman in between what something like Atlantic Waste won't pick up and what

[1:40:27] someone won't want to take to the actual dump. A little background

[1:40:30] [clears throat] about myself. I was with UPS for about 15 years, retired from

[1:40:34] there, and uh there was an owner for College Hunks in Savannah that wasn't

[1:40:38] really taking care of the business. I went ahead and purchased that a couple

[1:40:40] years ago. U we don't consider ourselves just a moving company. Uh, honks

[1:40:44] actually stands for honest, uniform, nice, knowledgeable service. Our core

[1:40:48] values include always branding, building leaders, creating fun, safe, winning

[1:40:52] teams, and to listen, fulfill, and delight our communities. Uh, we don't

[1:40:55] just talk that talk. Um, we're on the board [clears throat] for safe shelter

[1:40:58] in Savannah. We use our assets for a good. Uh, we're going to continue to

[1:41:02] operate our full operation in Chattam County. Right. Right now, we can't

[1:41:05] afford to do much with this property aside from turn into a contractor's yard

[1:41:09] and use it to stage some of our assets. Um eventually we would seek to move into

[1:41:12] Liberty County. Our long-term plan is to uh service the whole entire coastline.

[1:41:16] Um and eventually, you know, at a separate date, probably put a metal

[1:41:20] structure on the building. Um but uh I'm happy to answer any of questions.

[1:41:25] » What about um [clears throat] storage of combustible

[1:41:31] material? >> You know, we will not have anything

[1:41:33] combustible, anything has anything that can contribute, especially when it would

[1:41:36] seep down into, you know, water systems or, you know, soil and stuff like that.

[1:41:40] We're we're not permitted and don't plan to to store or or or have anything

[1:41:44] hazmat on site. >> What about tires?

[1:41:46] » Tires? No tires, sir. >> So, in the event Okay. Tell me about

[1:41:51] your water supply out there. >> Uh we don't have a plan for water supply

[1:41:54] right now. It's just going to be a contractor's yard. It's probably going

[1:41:57] to be between, you know, five and 10 pieces of equipment. I wouldn't picture

[1:42:01] this as, you know, five acres of 100 vehicles parked out there. And don't

[1:42:04] picture this as an area we're going to go abandon equipment where it's going to

[1:42:07] kind of get ugly. um you know to say the least. Um eventually um I was very in

[1:42:12] particular when when Trent was speaking kind of hearing about the you know plan

[1:42:15] for the uh county to eventually have a joint you know water commission you know

[1:42:19] um kind of really lending an ear toward toward that eventually we probably

[1:42:23] install um a sewer system there um that's you know probably three to five

[1:42:27] years down the line but right now it's just going to be to park assets um if we

[1:42:32] have to go um have a move team that's going to go start from that point have

[1:42:35] an established move captain park his personal vehicle there and take that

[1:42:38] vehicle south to Brunswick or somewhere further down the coast instead of Hilton

[1:42:42] Head. That's going to be more of a drop off point now that eventually would seek

[1:42:45] to probably, you know, build something on there, make our permanent home in

[1:42:47] Liberty County. >> And you going to stand by your word?

[1:42:51] » Yes, sir. >> Okay.

[1:42:53] » So, you're going to have portlets? >> I'm sorry.

[1:42:56] » You're going to have portlets out there for the

[1:42:58] » Absolutely. Absolutely. Got have somewhere to go to the bathroom, but

[1:43:00] right now we don't have we don't have the money to put in put in, you know, a

[1:43:04] full sewer system, a water system. Um so this time probably three to five years

[1:43:08] just just a contractor yard very basic operation and then full plans would come

[1:43:12] later um you know once the business has enough money to you know do

[1:43:15] » how did you identify Liberty County? I'll bring you in.

[1:43:17] » Yeah, go ahead. How'd you identify Liberty County?

[1:43:20] » Um I was at Angie's Diner uh with a a pastor

[1:43:24] » and we were kind of sitting down and and going back and forth between what's you

[1:43:27] know what what's going to help grow the business, what's going to help build

[1:43:30] leaders and looking at really um the best geographical point. Um we were um

[1:43:34] far away from 95 or too close to 95 is going to be expensive for the uh company

[1:43:39] and uh Leroy Coffer Highway just proved to be a nice pivotal point uh with a

[1:43:43] cost-effective solution. So um it really is going to help us serve between the

[1:43:47] Florida Georgia line and Hilthead which is our territory and it's a perfect

[1:43:50] middle ground to grow um into Liberty County and also grow north and grow

[1:43:53] south. So geography, >> where's your Savannah location?

[1:43:57] » Uh it is in Garden City. It is 810 Talmage Avenue. So right by Pooler. How

[1:44:02] long have you been there? >> We've been in that warehouse now for two

[1:44:05] months and we've been in Pooler for before that for a year and a half.

[1:44:10] » You expanded it rapidly. >> We are. We are. I've every every dollar

[1:44:14] that we made, I've invested into new trucks, new equipment. Um and it's it's

[1:44:17] been a great experience. >> Wish luck.

[1:44:19] » What's your employment size? What's your employment size?

[1:44:23] » Uh right now we're at 16 uh employees. Um eventually when we we come here, when

[1:44:28] we expanded to coastal Georgia, we'd probably seek to hire again. And this is

[1:44:31] early at least 10 to 15 people when we move into the county.

[1:44:36] » So when you collect at this site in Liberty County on 196

[1:44:42] and it gets piled up, where would you take it then?

[1:44:45] » Uh and this we're not going to have any kind of trash.

[1:44:49] » Okay. I just want to make sure >> just the equipment.

[1:44:51] » Yeah. This is [clears throat] just just for truck storage right now. Um we don't

[1:44:54] tend to keep just just to expand on on that. Even in Garden City, we don't tend

[1:44:58] to keep lots of trash on on site. stuff comes back. We back two trucks up. We

[1:45:02] separate metal. We separate plastics. We separate usable furniture. Store that

[1:45:06] stuff for free for different people in the community.

[1:45:10] » All right. >> How many people have seen college

[1:45:12] hauling our trucks, green and orange trucks? Anyone seen that?

[1:45:14] » I don't remember. >> Probably haven't. I don't remember.

[1:45:18] » Yeah. But it was good to have you indicate though bring you that because

[1:45:22] we look for people to come to be comm community partners. So I kind of heard

[1:45:26] that from you. So we look forward to that too.

[1:45:28] » Thank you. joining that chamber, all those kind of things. Yeah. And you

[1:45:32] retired. You said you retired. >> Uh retired from UPS. Also retired.

[1:45:36] Full-time police officer. Central.

[1:45:41] » Where's your driver license? What's your ID? [laughter]

[1:45:45] » Christian Blood. >> I got a couple of questions. Um if you

[1:45:50] were to look at your concept plan and all it uh you got to show a gravel road

[1:45:55] coming in area for parking your dumpster and stuff and all uh in this 5.29 acres.

[1:46:01] We just call it 5 acres. Um you're I know that area very well. So uh when you

[1:46:08] put in this gravel road, you're going to create water that's going to have to go

[1:46:11] somewhere. I don't see no design here for any retention ponds or anything like

[1:46:16] that to control your water. And where do you think your water's going to go?

[1:46:20] » Uh, that gravel road shouldn't be shouldn't raise be raised too much. That

[1:46:23] property is already above all the other properties around it. So, right now, I

[1:46:27] think water already trickles off that property to my understanding.

[1:46:31] » Yeah. Well, it I mean, according to a person that had some opposition against

[1:46:35] you, it uh they coming whoever cut the timber off of it many years ago before

[1:46:38] you owned it. you know, uh, he's complaining about water come on his

[1:46:42] property and there's some neighbors that say a few things, but I mean, when you

[1:46:46] go in and like you just said, the place is a little bit higher than existing

[1:46:49] properties. So, when you start putting in gravel, that dirt's not going to soak

[1:46:54] up nothing. So, you're still going to have water that's going to run

[1:46:57] somewhere. >> Go ahead. I'm sorry.

[1:46:59] » It uh So, I mean, I don't It's going to go to somebody's property. Uh, I know

[1:47:04] they gonna have a a vegetated buffer around it. you're going to have a

[1:47:09] privacy fence or something around it. [clears throat] Um, I'm just curious,

[1:47:13] maybe need to think about this in the future. You got to do something with

[1:47:16] this water. You probably have to put in a retention pond or something and

[1:47:19] probably car it at least until everything is basically flat and all it

[1:47:24] I mean, you talk a little bit higher, but it's basically flat. It uh that

[1:47:27] water's got to go somewhere. I'm going to recommend it you need to take it out

[1:47:30] to state highway to the ditches where it can get out of there and not put it on

[1:47:33] someone else. >> That will probably come in the phase

[1:47:36] when we could attempt to, you know, submit construction plans and stuff like

[1:47:39] that. There'll have to be a retention pond. Right now, we're not seeking to

[1:47:42] raise that at all. The gravel road is is something that so when we when we pull

[1:47:46] in there, vehicles don't don't get stuck, right? Um, but we don't seek to

[1:47:50] raise we're not seeking to bring bring dirt in and fill it up like if it was a

[1:47:54] marsh or was lower. So, we're really not seeking to raise that property at all

[1:47:57] right now. >> So, in that parking area, any of that

[1:48:00] going to be gravel or that's just going to be dirt?

[1:48:01] » That's just going to be dirt right now. Again, we're not going to put, you know,

[1:48:04] you know, 50 to 100 vehicles out there. This is probably going to be between 10

[1:48:08] 10 to 20 vehicles. >> You've been paying attention to that. Um

[1:48:13] how wet it gets at times and everything, how soft that ground gets.

[1:48:17] » It's hard to see all the way in the back. Um as someone alluded earlier,

[1:48:20] we've even had contractors come and uh you know, bit out clearing that actual

[1:48:23] property. And some of them wanted to drive in back just to see how, you know,

[1:48:27] how the property fluctuates. Um I've been told from the previous owner that

[1:48:30] that property when it does flood is is is above the rest. Um the plans that

[1:48:35] I've seen show that is is above rest and it does not flood. But I can't say that

[1:48:39] with complete confidence that >> let's change our words a little bit and

[1:48:44] instead of flood let's it's going to pond water you know at uh at some given

[1:48:48] point. Um you're say [clears throat] you're not going to haul in dirt, but I

[1:48:51] mean I know the area well enough that it's if you don't do anything other than

[1:48:54] just go in and grub it and clear it and kind of level it up. It uh there's going

[1:48:58] to be some pond and water in that area right there.

[1:49:00] » Again, I can't I can't speak to specifics on that right now because I

[1:49:03] just I haven't looked that far into it. Right now, we're in the phase of just

[1:49:06] purchasing it, reszoning it. Um, I'm happy to bring that back to the

[1:49:09] commission though after I do further further research on that, sir.

[1:49:15] » Okay. Just wanted to bring them concerns out. I'm on the zone analysis. I see

[1:49:19] where you're going to have to follow G dot approval and all for the entrance

[1:49:22] and stuff. Um, whatever they recommend with probably XL and DL lanes or the

[1:49:27] width of the driveway, whatever they going to require. Um that little

[1:49:30] driveway that's there right now is probably just a residential driveway.

[1:49:34] » Correct. >> Yeah.

[1:49:35] » Um so we got everything laid out pretty good. I'm still concerned about this

[1:49:39] water. I >> Mr. Philumm

[1:49:43] come to the microphone please. Sir had to

[1:49:47] » go through your agency with your chair first.

[1:49:50] » That's going to be a charge. Chairman [laughter]

[1:49:55] » you [snorts] here commissioner? >> Uh commissioners. Thank you. Did that

[1:49:58] come up for discussion at your meeting? >> Question on drainage.

[1:50:01] » Yes, sir. >> That is an engineering question,

[1:50:04] » right? >> We're in a zoning question.

[1:50:06] » Right. >> You can't do your engineering till you

[1:50:08] do your zoning. >> Understand?

[1:50:11] » So, I hear Commissioner Blunt's concerns. That was concerns we had at

[1:50:15] the planning commission. and they're to be addressed at the time when

[1:50:18] engineering when he goes and gets his G dot approval. Then something simple as

[1:50:23] cutting a tail ditch across the property to drain into the state right away would

[1:50:30] solve the issue until he begins construction. And at that time when he

[1:50:36] puts buildings there he would have to have a full set and meet the storm water

[1:50:39] requirements. >> Sure.

[1:50:41] » That was uh that's the best I can tell you commissioner. That's the best we

[1:50:45] need to hear. >> All right.

[1:50:47] » Anything else, Commissioner Bluff? >> I'm good. I'm good. It uh we here for

[1:50:51] the zone and I got it. [laughter] >> What it does? So, it helps you going

[1:50:55] forward that you'll know >> what might be required.

[1:50:59] » I may have overexplained our future plans, but I don't mind doing that. You

[1:51:02] know, some people come up and they want to just that that's our future plan as

[1:51:06] to grow in Liberty County. And at that time, we when we go through, you know,

[1:51:09] building and development, we we will we will seek those plans in the appropriate

[1:51:12] manner. require two separate motions.

[1:51:15] » Two separate I'm sorry. >> And and and just real real quick. First

[1:51:18] of all, I I appreciate your uh transparency, but again, you know, uh

[1:51:23] just like Miss ODM said, I think we're here for the zoning. I understand, you

[1:51:27] know, the farther out issues, but u between Got and hopefully our inspection

[1:51:32] department, they they'll make sure that that is all taken care of. my my

[1:51:37] question or my I guess not necessarily concerned with this particular project

[1:51:43] but in the future uh you know we we've talked you know from here and also from

[1:51:49] a from the countywide perspective of about our our our gateway to our county.

[1:51:56] Uh, and only thing I'm saying is what what type of identity are we looking for

[1:52:02] during Leroy Coff for Highway coming into this community? I mean, are we

[1:52:07] looking for uh future economic commercial type growth or are we going

[1:52:14] to continue to uh have different projects like this

[1:52:19] going on Lero Coffer? Because I mean that that's what she was just saying

[1:52:23] about the domino effect. You know, we we we've started approving particular

[1:52:29] projects like and I'm entrepreneur. I get it where get it where you fit in.

[1:52:34] But what I'm saying is our our future when we're talking about our gateways

[1:52:38] coming into Liberty County, how do we want them to look? and and I understand

[1:52:42] the buffers, but again, I just look at Leroy Coffer, you

[1:52:50] know, being from here, I remember how how it used to look and now, you know,

[1:52:56] there's still a lot of trees out there, but also that's a blank c canvas that we

[1:53:01] as commission and also the planning commission, we have a true opportunity

[1:53:06] to create something. And I think Mr. Uh, Commissioner Gillard said this a long

[1:53:10] time ago. One day you're not going to be able to tell the difference in the

[1:53:14] Liberty County line, the Bryan County line, and Chattam County line. So, only

[1:53:18] thing I'm saying is, are we looking at for now? Are we looking at, you know, 30

[1:53:22] or 40 years from now, which hopefully I'm still here, but you know, and not

[1:53:29] just me, you know, our kids, what what identity are we looking? And I just want

[1:53:35] my fellow commissioners to to think about that whenever we doing all these

[1:53:40] resonings because [clears throat] one thing about about resoning is you

[1:53:46] know you know we come up with these comprehensive plans and and we say this

[1:53:50] is where we going with this particular area but then you know we come for

[1:53:57] resone and I' I've been there. I've I've had to get properties res.

[1:54:03] But also, I just want us to be aware and and keep a few things in in perspective.

[1:54:09] You know, again, our identity. What are we looking for? You know, I know the

[1:54:15] chairman have talked about our gateways and gateways and gateways. And it's more

[1:54:19] than just a sign at the Liberty County line. I mean, we could put a a a a $10

[1:54:26] million sign out there, make it look like Vegas, but if if you soon as you

[1:54:30] walk in, it looks like old Vegas instead of New Vegas is is a problem. So, I'm

[1:54:36] I'm just saying as as as a whole and we just need to make sure that these

[1:54:41] particular properties is the highest best use and also we need to be aware of

[1:54:47] of that question about the domino effect. So, what do we decide?

[1:54:52] you know, dominoes lay down and they keep going. Long as you got another

[1:54:56] domino there, it's gonna keep going. >> That's the only thing

[1:55:01] » I think it's healthy that I bring up kind of the future plans here. You know,

[1:55:03] we're we're a small business that's that that's growing. We've already doubled in

[1:55:07] revenue um you know, the past couple years. So, we're my particular project

[1:55:10] is going well. It might be a contractor's yard for three to five

[1:55:13] years. I'd like you to think of the long-term vision of once that's paved

[1:55:16] over, there's a building there, there's maybe another space for a tenant to move

[1:55:19] in and grow their small business next to mine. So that's that's the kind that's

[1:55:22] the kind of vision I want, you know, I want the board to see

[1:55:25] » and I and I appreciate LCPC for the buffer

[1:55:30] » requirements. Um you got I'm not sure how much Phil you all talked about but

[1:55:35] you're on one of my major gateways, sir. And we're just trying to ensure that our

[1:55:38] gateway is attractive people coming in out of

[1:55:40] » county. All right, that's all. All right, ch

[1:55:46] come out of a No one No one signed up to Okay. to come out of public hearing.

[1:55:54] » Oh, okay. >> All right. Motion to come out.

[1:55:58] » Move. >> Second.

[1:55:59] » Second. >> All in favor?

[1:56:00] » Motion to go back in regular session? >> Move, Mr. Chair. Second.

[1:56:04] » Second. Monica, you got all that? [laughter]

[1:56:09] » Okay. Hold on, sir. Sir, we hadn't voted yet. Oh, he can sit down and watch the

[1:56:14] vote. [laughter]

[1:56:18] » Oh, yes, sir. If you could. Two two separate condition um decisions,

[1:56:22] actions. The first one reszoning and the second one conditional use, please.

[1:56:26] » Mr. Blunt, I yield. >> I make a motion. We accept LCP's

[1:56:30] recommendation for approval for the resoning position.

[1:56:34] » Stand. >> Motion a second. Miss Monica, you got

[1:56:36] that. Any further discussion? I think we had plenty. All in favor? Show of hands,

[1:56:39] please. opposition. All right. Approve. Now the conditional use for the special

[1:56:48] conditions standard and special conditions. Chair.

[1:56:52] » Yes sir. >> I make a motion we approve the special

[1:56:55] conditions used for LCPC recommendation and all.

[1:57:00] » Motion to second the same too. Miss Monica. All right. Any further

[1:57:02] discussion? All in favor show hands please. All right.

[1:57:07] Now, sir, >> thank you. I look forward to seeing you

[1:57:11] in a few years for some more. >> Yeah, we can't help but we

[1:57:13] [clears throat] can't help but watch you. We go in and out that way.

[1:57:16] [laughter] >> Thank you.

[1:57:17] » Thank you, sir. All right.

[1:57:24] Resoning. Where am I?

[1:57:31] Oh, I'm down there. Okay. Knock the light out.

[1:57:36] Removal of condition use requests 2026 23 LC.

[1:57:48] » Oh, >> I'm sorry. It was tabled last time and

[1:57:52] you need to remove [clears throat] >> please.

[1:57:58] » I'll move, Mr. Chair. >> Be second.

[1:58:02] Thank you. Um

[1:58:05] uh I just need a little bit of a refresher in a minute.

[1:58:08] » I'm going to give you that refresher on this application.

[1:58:10] » Okay. Yes. Okay. >> Yes, [snorts] sir. So, this was

[1:58:13] presented last month. You help >> I'm sorry. So, so now that we're Okay.

[1:58:18] All in favor of the >> Oh, I'm sorry.

[1:58:20] » Of coming out of being tabled. Show of hands.

[1:58:25] » All right. All right. Now, all right. >> The gun.

[1:58:27] » Quite all right. >> Okay. So this was you held the public

[1:58:30] for this at your last meeting. In that time we did uh meet with Commissioner

[1:58:36] Blunt and Commissioner Gillard with the applicant. Um and the result of that

[1:58:40] meeting is that they have submitted revised narrative and a concept plan

[1:58:44] that I would like to go over with you. So just I'll refresh you on some of

[1:58:49] these slides. So this is a conditional use 2026-23LC.

[1:58:53] It is for uh submitted by Christian Edens and Lindseay Goff for an outdoor

[1:58:58] event center at 956 Freriedman Grove Road in Plem.

[1:59:06] The property I think it's about a mile or so from the Coastal Highway Limick

[1:59:11] intersection here. It's on the on the north side of the road.

[1:59:16] Closeup view. As you may recall, they were originally planning on having some

[1:59:21] parking in the field here and the outdoor events would be happening over

[1:59:25] here. There is a house in the middle here. Then like I said, they have res

[1:59:29] revised that narrative. It is zoned A1 and AR1.

[1:59:36] Then is residential low density. So if I may, I'll read the revised

[1:59:41] narrative. The applicant is requesting approval for a low impact outdoor event

[1:59:46] venue to be operated on an existing privately owned parcel on 956 Freedman

[1:59:52] Road. It's approximately 20 acres zoned AR and AR1. The property is intended to

[1:59:58] be used as a smallcale outdoor event venue primarily for weddings, private

[2:00:02] gatherings, photo shoots, and other special events. Most events will be

[2:00:06] intimate gatherings with a maximum guest capacity of up to 40 guests and all

[2:00:11] events will place outdoors utilizing the property's natural landscape. Um

[2:00:16] provision to this narrative in particular I'd like to point out is that

[2:00:20] originally they had said 150 guests. So they have narrowed [clears throat] the

[2:00:24] scope of [snorts] the size of the gatherings that they will allow. The

[2:00:29] events will be scheduled by reservation only and will occur on a limited basis

[2:00:33] rather than daily commercial operations. We are proposing utilizing the existing

[2:00:39] asphalt driveway for access and one handicap accessible parking spot. Up to

[2:00:45] 10 additional parking spaces would be located in a centralized area on the

[2:00:49] property. Applicant is requesting a variance or condition to allow the event

[2:00:53] parking to remain unpaid. Proposed use is expected to generate

[2:00:58] only moderate event-based noise typical of private outdoor gatherings. Events

[2:01:02] would be limited to designated hours with music ending at a reasonable

[2:01:06] evening cutoff in compliance with local ordinances. The intent is to provide a

[2:01:10] well-managed environment and minimize disruption to neighboring properties.

[2:01:16] All vendors providing services on the property must be properly licensed and

[2:01:19] insured. The venue will not sell or serve alcohol. However, clients may

[2:01:23] bring their own alcohol for private events.

[2:01:28] Portable restroom facilities will be provided for events as needed based on

[2:01:32] the anticipated attendance and length of [snorts] the event. All events will

[2:01:36] include proper waste management and postevent cleanup. The client will be

[2:01:40] responsible for preser um prov reserving sorry portable restrooms for an approved

[2:01:46] uh vendor ensuring there they are delivered and moved in a timely manner.

[2:01:51] The rental contract will require compliance with this policy.

[2:01:55] Property layout allows for clear emergency vehicle access at all times.

[2:02:00] proposed use is designated to be a low impact and compat and [clears throat]

[2:02:03] compatible with the surrounding rural agricultural lowdensity residential

[2:02:07] [snorts] community. The property will offer a beautiful and convenient venue

[2:02:11] for family celebrations, small gatherings, weddings, photography

[2:02:16] sessions, and other special occasions. Part [snorts] of our discussions, we

[2:02:21] talked about some possible special conditions. Um, they've provided

[2:02:27] kind of how we The conclusions we came to might be

[2:02:31] reasonable special conditions. Um, the condition conditional use permit would

[2:02:35] be specific to the current property owners, Lindsey Goff and Christian

[2:02:39] Edens, and will not automatically transfer with a change in ownership.

[2:02:44] This would mean that someone else couldn't decide they want a conditional

[2:02:47] use event as outdoor event as a conditional use and then expand it

[2:02:52] beyond what they have provided in their narrative and what their intent is. Um,

[2:02:57] and another special condition was proposed parking plan will utilize the

[2:03:00] existing asphalt driveway for primary access and the parking will be

[2:03:04] centralized on the property and kept unpaid in order to minimize services,

[2:03:09] [snorts and clears throat] reduce site disturbance and maintain

[2:03:12] compatibility with the surrounding and residential uses.

[2:03:17] The revised concept plan, [snorts] as you may recall, they were planning on

[2:03:21] having parking here. That's that field I mentioned. And here's the house. So,

[2:03:24] they've revised it to have the parking spaces up here. Uh, the UDO does require

[2:03:31] one space for every uh four guests. So, that's 10 parking spaces if they have up

[2:03:36] to 40 guests. And then the vent would be back here in this area in the Oak Grove.

[2:03:43] This driveway is the existing driveway, asphalt driveway to the house. And these

[2:03:47] other accesses here are more like the residential dirt culvers [snorts]

[2:03:51] on um that just allow I call field access to the property.

[2:03:58] These Oakrove this was a field they were going

[2:04:02] to use for parking but won't

[2:04:06] li the house on the property would not be

[2:04:10] part of the event space and we went through the conditional use. Um, we did

[2:04:17] not modify these slides for the revised narrative because this is what we

[2:04:20] presented at the planning commission and didn't feel it's appropriate to present

[2:04:23] something different to you in that respect. Would you like me to go over

[2:04:27] these or should I just pass them by? You've heard it all before.

[2:04:29] » I think you can pass this by. >> Okay.

[2:04:33] Um, so this was before the planning commission last month as you know where

[2:04:36] they did recommend disapproval based on the narrative presented with their

[2:04:40] application which was the 150 people and parking in the field. Um, so this was

[2:04:46] their original recommendation. It did not go back before the planning

[2:04:50] commission. So you do not have an updated recommendation from them at this

[2:04:53] point. >> Commissioner Blunt.

[2:05:04] » Good evening. >> Hello.

[2:05:06] » How you doing? >> Um, I know you met with uh some of the

[2:05:10] planning staff at LCPC, myself and Commissioner Gillard. Uh, went over

[2:05:15] this. Uh everything seems like it's in order for you. One thing I wanted to say

[2:05:20] for people watching that might not quite understand that were uh previously not

[2:05:27] for this. Um I'm in favor of it after talking to you.

[2:05:32] Uh because if we did a lot of paving and different things, we're going to start

[2:05:36] pushing water around. Uh you got a beautiful piece of property. Um we

[2:05:41] looked at the conditional uses. I mean against what you want to do and things.

[2:05:46] Um everything seems in order to you that

[2:05:50] we've agreed on. >> Okay. M you want to add anything?

[2:05:55] » No. Um good evening. We we did uh Commissioner Blunt and I did meet and um

[2:06:01] you know our goal was to meet and hear hear you out and you know hopefully to

[2:06:06] try to help you if if we could and um I think Jeff was there, Marty and some of

[2:06:11] the other staff and you know we um think you scaled down from the the previous um

[2:06:19] uh [clears throat] requests and um you know I I do know um from the meeting

[2:06:27] that we had and the scale down version I think we agree that it uh that it

[2:06:33] wouldn't create a issue. Now I do know that u over time you know as people find

[2:06:38] out about it and if you get everything up and running and hope it don't turn

[2:06:44] into Saturday night fever and hope it don't um be a version of martyr where

[2:06:50] there will be issues and people are complaining about parking and noise and

[2:06:54] this and that and the other. If it is, we will you don't have to revisit it

[2:06:58] based on our ordinances and everything, but um I think it was two weeks ago we

[2:07:03] met. Um and I don't know if um I know the event is not approved. I mean, the

[2:07:08] site is not approved, but um I hadn't heard nothing, you know, that happened

[2:07:13] out there since then. Never heard of anything. So, I just felt like if you

[2:07:18] just continue to do what you're doing and stick to the guidelines that we

[2:07:22] talked about at the planning um office a couple of weeks ago, I think everything

[2:07:27] will be fine. >> So, the people that come are going to

[2:07:32] have to sign a contract with you for for their event.

[2:07:34] » Yeah, it would be like renting the property. So, we'd have like a rental

[2:07:38] » and and it says that you will the your ship portal will be taken care of

[2:07:43] by the renters. How you how you doing water out there?

[2:07:49] » Wouldn't need any for for the restrooms if they're bringing in portable ones.

[2:07:52] » Yeah, but you you could um like the portlet,

[2:07:56] » they come with water. >> Yeah, you get water with them.

[2:07:59] » Not you know, not regular running water, but a container with

[2:08:04] » where they could dispense water. >> Just make that note. As your popularity

[2:08:08] grows, you may need a water resource well. Okay.

[2:08:12] » It grows over 40. probably have to come back before us. Um,

[2:08:21] one thing I've seen that I like, um, in the event that you ever change hands

[2:08:26] with it, uh, all this that we're doing right now is nylon board looks like, you

[2:08:30] know, it's not transferable.

[2:08:34] » I think that was your recommendation. I mean, you know,

[2:08:39] » happy to agree to that. >> It's a beautiful place.

[2:08:43] » I got one question, J. So, if somebody comes out there to use it, they will not

[2:08:47] have to get a permit uh but get a okay from you.

[2:08:53] » Correct. Um if they're going to use any vendor, they would need to use a license

[2:08:58] and insured u vendor. The vendors would they would only be permitted vendors

[2:09:03] that would be allowed. >> What was that now?

[2:09:05] » They would only be permitted licensed insured vendors that would be allowed

[2:09:08] via the contract, the rental contract they sign with us. So, it's not just

[2:09:12] like they can have anybody come in and

[2:09:16] Oh, some of our um we're going to move on. Concern has been some other people

[2:09:20] like you have acquired spaces for events and then they rent it out to people and

[2:09:25] it's not what they thought was going to happen there. It's kind of gotten out of

[2:09:29] hand. So that's why we have some concerns. Uh I don't see yours to be

[2:09:33] that kind of issue, but I'm just sharing with you some of the sentiment that

[2:09:37] you're hearing up here from the commissioners.

[2:09:40] » I guess Mr. chairman, if like let's say if um everything is approved and um and

[2:09:45] this weekend she wanted to have a wedding, I don't think that you would

[2:09:48] need a a permit. If um next week someone wanted to take pictures out there, which

[2:09:56] is, you know, the beautiful um oak trees and everything, I don't think you would

[2:10:00] need a permit. just um if it kind of got out of hand, you know, and um we I don't

[2:10:06] think that we going to require you to get permits for every time somebody, you

[2:10:12] know, wants to go out there and do something. I mean, go out there, take

[2:10:15] pictures. I don't think you would need a permit for that.

[2:10:17] » Would that business license? >> Yeah.

[2:10:19] » Yeah. You have to get a business license. But but the events that she had

[2:10:24] have there she wouldn't have to be >> fall under her

[2:10:29] » be kind of be responsible as the >> okay

[2:10:32] » as the owner. >> All right. You ready to move forward?

[2:10:36] » Got one more concern that you touched on a little bit with uh with the porter

[2:10:40] toilets and stuff. um you're going to be left you you sign a contract with some

[2:10:45] someone when they want to do this outdoor event and all and what I'm

[2:10:48] concerned about right there is uh someone says well it's just a small

[2:10:52] event there only going to be 15 of us we don't need that but um the way I read

[2:10:58] this they got to have it >> yeah that would be in the contract if if

[2:11:02] there's a certain amount of people they would be required to

[2:11:05] » Yeah. So I just want to make sure we got to have all that in place. So um

[2:11:12] You ready? Motion. Yes, sir. Ready? >> Yeah. All right. It uh I make a motion

[2:11:17] we accept this and all to move forward with the the special condition that's in

[2:11:20] place as we talked about here. >> So move, Mr. Chair.

[2:11:24] » Second. Motion to second that we approve the recommendation. I knew where you

[2:11:28] » late. >> I knew you headed. Any further

[2:11:30] discussion? All in favor? Show of hands, please. Thank the committee for vetting

[2:11:33] that for us. We appreciate it. >> Of course. We appreciate LCPC. Thank

[2:11:37] you, ma'am. Look forward to it. We >> Good luck. Beautiful property. Beautiful

[2:11:40] property. Uh Moou,

[2:11:46] Miss Lara

[2:11:56] again. >> Hello.

[2:12:00] Uh Mr. Mosley asked me to come before you tonight to talk a little bit more

[2:12:03] about compensation and pay studies as we look ahead and hope to do a another paid

[2:12:11] study with Dr. Condre and associates. Uh so I'm going to just

[2:12:18] go through a few slides very quickly.

[2:12:23] So compensation, it's one of the largest investments we

[2:12:27] make as a county government. It's easily 90% of our budget is paying for people.

[2:12:34] Um it directly impacts recruitment, retention, morale, and fiscal

[2:12:39] responsibility.

[2:12:44] You know, we're all competing for talent. So, we're competing across the

[2:12:49] region, especially for things like public safety workers in fire, 911, EMS,

[2:12:54] law enforcement, and specialized positions like IT and

[2:12:59] finance. And modern employees expect to be paid

[2:13:05] fairly and have a transparent uh pay that reflects local market rates, cost

[2:13:11] of living, and their skills, and experience level. And of course, we want

[2:13:16] to have public trust. So when we have a clear, visible pay plan, then taxpayers

[2:13:22] can see how we are paying for salaries and that helps our integrity as well.

[2:13:29] I brought some data with me too like Mr. Murray. Um these are some snapshots from

[2:13:34] our uh Palosity platform showing you some of the demographics of our current

[2:13:39] workforce. This is showing our full-time people. Um the number in the center of

[2:13:45] the ring chart represents our current headcount of active employees which we

[2:13:50] sit at 514 today for fiscal year 27. Our authorized

[2:13:56] strength is 560. So we've got about 46 vacancies. Mainly

[2:14:02] those are in public safety. Uh we also have some in public works

[2:14:08] along with some administrative positions like appraisers or deputy clerks.

[2:14:16] » You wanted 50/50. We got 5050. >> I saw that

[2:14:20] » for gender. We're pretty equally split, male and female in our workforce. And

[2:14:25] then I thought it was interesting to look at the breakdown of the different

[2:14:29] generations um that we employ, most of which are millennials. It looks

[2:14:35] like [clears throat]

[2:14:39] other employers, Liberty County must contend with staff turnover. So this

[2:14:44] slide shows you over the last 12 months, we have had 127

[2:14:50] uh full-time separations. um more than threequarters of those were

[2:14:56] resignations, so people voluntarily leaving or retiring.

[2:15:01] This is similar to the 12-month period prior to the [clears throat and snorts]

[2:15:05] past 12 months. Um and just keep in mind, according to Sherm, which is the

[2:15:09] Society for HR Management, replacing an employee typically costs 30 to 200% of

[2:15:15] their annual salary depending on the role seniority and complexity. So, I

[2:15:21] think about some of our departments where when we bring somebody in, it

[2:15:24] could take upwards of a year to get them fully trained to serve the public,

[2:15:28] whether that's a firefighter or a field appraiser.

[2:15:35] This slide shows, you know, the average um length of service across the

[2:15:40] organization. So, that is trending slightly downward,

[2:15:45] which I think is typical of what the market is becoming. Um about 20% of our

[2:15:52] employees have been here at least 10 years which is great.

[2:15:57] Our average tenure right now is 6.8 down from 7.1 a year ago. So that's how many

[2:16:04] years uh we've had this is in line with the public sector but just something to

[2:16:09] keep an eye on as longtimers retire. They take with them a lot of

[2:16:12] institutional knowledge and succession is already succession planning is

[2:16:17] already a top priority for us.

[2:16:22] So why do we want to conduct a compensation study? So Liberty County

[2:16:27] has always relied on formal compensation studies to update its pay structure. And

[2:16:33] so there's many reasons for doing so such as being competitive in the market,

[2:16:37] maintaining internal equity, which means paying employees fairly and consistently

[2:16:43] for similar roles, responsibilities, and experience levels. And very importantly,

[2:16:49] creating a defensible pay structure [snorts]

[2:16:53] using methodology that can stand up in court.

[2:16:59] So signs it's time for a pay study. When you several of these indicators at once,

[2:17:04] it's likely time to reassess your pay structure. So, some of these do apply to

[2:17:09] us right now. Um, our recruitment challenges, um, our current pay study,

[2:17:15] the age of that, um, competitors raising salaries or benefits. So, as soon as

[2:17:22] another sheriff's office, not to pick on you, chief, uh, wants to offer a special

[2:17:27] benefit, it's got the sher sheriff looking, oh, do we need to do that, too?

[2:17:31] because they have such a challenge recruiting uh deputies.

[2:17:36] Significant organizational [clears throat] growth. Of course, we

[2:17:39] know that is true. So, this over the last 25 years is a is

[2:17:45] our timeline of the various pay studies we have implemented starting in 2001.

[2:17:51] That was when I was first hired in the EMA office [laughter]

[2:17:56] and I came in right after one was conducted. as a matter of fact.

[2:18:03] [clears throat] Then we did one in 2006 or then so every four to five years

[2:18:09] we've done one except you can see that gap that was the great recession and so

[2:18:14] we were not able to as a county fund any pay studies during that time. Um and

[2:18:20] then we did one in 2019. We did some mini studies when we took on uh fire and

[2:18:26] EMS and also when you asked us to look at the living wage to ensure that every

[2:18:31] employee made at least $15 an hour. And then the most recent works uh pay

[2:18:38] study was put into place July 2023 [clears throat] and it starts a year in

[2:18:43] advance of implementation when they do the study

[2:18:49] and we use outside an outside firm. We've used UG Carl Vincson Institute of

[2:18:57] Government um of which Dr. Condre is an alumni

[2:19:01] and um as you can see all the reasons here why it's so advantageous to use

[2:19:06] that from um providing impartial evidence-based recommendations.

[2:19:11] Um we don't want people thinking that uh you know if I made the decision that I'm

[2:19:16] biased, right? So we have independent consultant doing that. They

[2:19:22] have the specialized knowledge to do compensation studies. They've got labor

[2:19:28] market insights and advanced uh methodology to develop these pay uh

[2:19:33] structures. They're very efficient. They can

[2:19:37] accomplish these pay studies with their team because of their years of

[2:19:42] experience in a very short uh time frame and not

[2:19:47] while they don't disrupt our HR flow.

[2:19:53] And then of course defensibility, which I think is so important because we've

[2:19:58] got a legally sound plan that withstands the scrutiny from employees to elected

[2:20:04] officials to auditors to taxpayers

[2:20:11] versus if we tried to do it ourselves. Um there's some risks to doing so. Um a

[2:20:18] comprehensive study can take hundreds of hours, which if I'm being honest, and

[2:20:23] Jessica's here in the audience, um we're already managing a lot of things.

[2:20:29] Recruiting, onboarding, benefits, employee relations, payroll

[2:20:34] coordination, [snorts] compliance, performance management, all

[2:20:38] the things we're doing on a daily basis. I don't know where we would find the

[2:20:41] time to do that. or it would just take more than a year

[2:20:48] to do. [snorts]

[2:20:50] Also, uh internal bias or perceived favoritism. So, when you have people in

[2:20:56] house doing it, they may be perceived as having favoritism towards some

[2:21:01] departments or roles where when an external consultant can not have these

[2:21:07] pressures.

[2:21:11] Um I'm I have a lot of HR expertise, but compensation studies is not one of them.

[2:21:17] So, I'm going going to admit that. Uh, in an independent third party study

[2:21:22] often carries carries greater credibility because like I said, they're

[2:21:26] more impartial.

[2:21:30] So, the project roadmap um generally outlined here in eight

[2:21:36] steps. The first is planning, but Condrian Associates are very familiar

[2:21:41] with us after working with us for so many years that they're already familiar

[2:21:46] with [clears throat] our structure, our current plan, our policies, our budget.

[2:21:50] Um, they would meet with leadership and HR to look at our current goals and

[2:21:54] priorities. Step two would be analyzing the job.

[2:22:01] What are our current job descriptions? What's changed? They talk to department

[2:22:04] heads. Then they would collect data. So they would collect salary data from a

[2:22:09] wide range of sources. Some that we wouldn't have access to uh easily

[2:22:14] because that's their business. Other local governments publish surveys,

[2:22:19] state associations, databases, etc.

[2:22:24] We'd also want to do market benchmarking.

[2:22:27] So how do we compare in this region similar uh of other people with similar

[2:22:35] population budget size the services so generally

[2:22:40] we'd look at other city and county governments and then who are we

[2:22:44] competing with in the region like Fort Stewart um

[2:22:50] um people like that. We'd also look at

[2:22:55] certain internal jobs and compare them with industry standards [snorts] such as

[2:23:01] public safety, public works, administrative type positions, finance,

[2:23:08] IT. So they would uh those would be job benchmarks.

[2:23:14] Step five, this is very key part of their analysis is maintaining the

[2:23:20] internal equity of our plan pay plan. because it makes sure that everybody is

[2:23:26] judged on the same criteria as far as their jobs. They break it down into 10

[2:23:31] components and they use the factor evaluation system. So that's a

[2:23:36] quantitative point factor [clears throat] method used to grade and

[2:23:40] classify positions. It assigns numerical points to 10 specific components and

[2:23:46] then those components are weighted. So something like the knowledge required by

[2:23:51] the position would count more than the physical demands

[2:23:57] and then the sum of all those points it pinpoint where it should go on the pay

[2:24:01] plan. So it helps ensure everything is rated fairly and consistently throughout

[2:24:07] all the departments. And if you're interested, the 10

[2:24:11] components are the required knowledge and skills, supervisory controls,

[2:24:18] guidelines, complexity, scope and effect of their work, personal contacts,

[2:24:25] purpose of contacts, physical demands, work environment, and supervisory

[2:24:33] responsibility. [clears throat]

[2:24:36] » You said contacts contacts. Who do they come in contact

[2:24:41] with in the in the course of their day?

[2:24:46] » Step six is developing the actual pay structure. So given all that previous

[2:24:50] work, they would come up with your salary grades, pay ranges, min, max,

[2:24:54] etc. Then they would come back to you in step seven with a cost analysis like

[2:25:00] here's here are several different scenarios. If you remember with the last

[2:25:04] case study, they said, "Okay, do you want to be at uh

[2:25:09] » market?" >> At market.

[2:25:10] » Yeah. At market, slightly ahead of market

[2:25:14] uh where do you want to be with that? Um do you want to do it in phases? You

[2:25:18] know, they could come up with multiple scenarios and costs for you as the board

[2:25:23] to decide. >> Mr. Chair, Mr. Mosley, one of y'all are

[2:25:27] fellow commissioners. Uh do y'all remember what we decided last time? I

[2:25:31] didn't we decide to be a little bit aggressive

[2:25:36] » at market. >> At market

[2:25:39] » aggressive >> aggressive

[2:25:43] I tell you a duck could pull a truck. >> Yeah. So and and that's I guess that's

[2:25:50] where I'm getting at because we did this what three years ago, right?

[2:25:54] » 2023, right? 2022. So four years ago we started the plan

[2:25:58] » and implemented it. >> Right. Right.

[2:26:01] » Right. So, we're doing it now again. And basically, in a nutshell, he's going to

[2:26:07] come back and tell us where we are with with market. And I'm I'm not trying to

[2:26:11] cut you off. I just had had a few questions and my list was getting a

[2:26:14] little long. Uh, another thing is whenever you're talking about the uh the

[2:26:20] data collection portion, is he comparing us and and I heard you you say to other

[2:26:26] government entities. Is it are you comparing us with another community like

[2:26:32] ours? Do you know

[2:26:35] » when >> because what I'm saying is you can't

[2:26:37] compare us with Fulton County or >> correct. And so at the kickoff of the

[2:26:42] plan, we would sit down with them with leadership, Mr. Mosley, Miss Hunter,

[2:26:48] myself, Samantha, and we would outline what are our goals and priorities. And

[2:26:54] we would also tell them who we want. They would recommend who to use as

[2:27:00] comparison. And then we can also say, well, we don't want them, but we

[2:27:04] definitely want them >> in the mix when we're collecting the

[2:27:08] data. >> Right. Well, I I I guess to to make sure

[2:27:11] that that the the the the data that's being collected is the most efficient

[2:27:16] data, it has to be a mirror of of of me personally, I mean, for 35,000, I think

[2:27:24] we should look at it from where we are and and whenever we talk about workforce

[2:27:31] and future workforce, is this the same identity that we're we're looking for?

[2:27:36] Because of course, you know, Mr. share. Here in Liberty County, we're being

[2:27:40] strongly focusing right now on education and literacy. So, what I'm saying is are

[2:27:46] we are are we looking to expand the workforce to a that type of

[2:27:53] level? You picking up what I'm I'm putting down? You understand?

[2:27:58] No, you lost >> that type of

[2:27:59] » Okay, cool. Let me break it down. All right. [clears throat]

[2:28:04] When are we looking at data collection? Whenever we looking at workforce, we're

[2:28:09] looking at who we what workforce we have now, but uh also in the future

[2:28:15] workforce, are we looking at a different education level? Are we looking at a a

[2:28:20] younger level? What what what type of workforce are we trying to attract? I

[2:28:25] think if if we implement that, that'll make what we're doing a little bit more,

[2:28:31] you know, mainstream.

[2:28:34] follow me now. No, still okay. If if I'm if I'm trying to The other day we were

[2:28:43] talking about uh healthc care in in Georgia and how and and I know you serve

[2:28:49] on a lot of the health boards so you understand and and Mr. Chair, you worked

[2:28:53] in the health field for a long time. The issue we have in Georgia when we dealing

[2:28:57] with health care sometimes is the providers because a doctor here makes a

[2:29:04] 100,000. I'm just throwing out a number but then you go over the line and make

[2:29:08] 150. Where are you going to go? You're going to go over the line. So what I'm

[2:29:13] saying is when are we looking at a data collection? What are we comparing and

[2:29:18] what type of workforce are we looking at for the future?

[2:29:24] So, it sounds to me like you're speaking more on the recruiting end

[2:29:29] » on on both ends, right? >> Okay.

[2:29:32] » Right. >> Well, having a strong pay structure

[2:29:34] helps with recruiting. >> It's more it's more than just it's just

[2:29:38] more it's more than just money, especially now with with that that

[2:29:41] millennial. Trust me, >> it's money. Yes, it it tracks, but also

[2:29:47] » work life balance,

[2:29:51] » right? But I'm I'm only speaking in that small [clears throat] in that

[2:29:56] » okay >> specific area of compensation which I

[2:29:59] agree is only one factor of recruitment and retention. I agree with you there

[2:30:04] because >> that's not what Dr. Condre is going to

[2:30:06] come in and do. >> Okay.

[2:30:10] » That's something >> Commissioner Gillard, you were right.

[2:30:14] Right.

[2:30:18] » No, I No, what what I'm saying is we keep doing this, but we understand that

[2:30:22] we have to to keep increase and and I feel like this board we've we've always

[2:30:28] every year with budget. What we make sure is that that we take care of our

[2:30:32] our our workforce. We like I said, only time we didn't was when I first got on

[2:30:39] and we was going through the struggles and I I remember that vividly. We we but

[2:30:43] since we've had that opportunity we have so un what I'm saying is whenever

[2:30:49] [clears throat] we looking at these pay scale studies

[2:30:53] what what's the bigger picture I mean with all the due respect you you you

[2:31:00] could put these numbers in and get on chat GPT in 2026 and it it'll give you

[2:31:05] everything you need. So what I'm saying is what I think the biggest part when

[2:31:10] are we looking at the pay structure what are we looking at for the future growth

[2:31:15] and and you you pulled the data you know but the different with the millennials

[2:31:20] and [clears throat] and the baby boomers I think the baby boomers is seven almost

[2:31:24] 8% and again the difference without a respect the baby boomers y'all stayed on

[2:31:30] jobs for 40 50 years millennials not doing it so what I'm saying is and even

[2:31:35] when you showed the the difference in how many people left the county,

[2:31:40] » right? >> Some people don't leave just to leave. I

[2:31:42] promise you that. And I think you in HR, you know that. Like the the people,

[2:31:48] this new generation is different. And I and I think what I'm saying is I'm not

[2:31:53] saying that we don't need to pay for this, but we need to make sure that what

[2:31:58] we're looking for. I mean, just looking at from the from the money, right?

[2:32:04] » I mean, we can scale that. That's that's scalable.

[2:32:06] » Well, let let me mention this to you is one of the things Mr. Mosley and I have

[2:32:11] talked about uh bringing into this project which we haven't before are

[2:32:16] specific career progression pathways because nowadays I mean people want

[2:32:24] measured grow uh targeted growth like here give

[2:32:30] me a way to get there and move up in the organization instead of well I'm going

[2:32:34] to wait 20 years till my boss retires and and I've you Um, and Miss Hunter

[2:32:42] agrees with this, too. I mean, there's studies about that. Um, that's what

[2:32:47] keeps people at jobs. You give them a pathway to move up and grow

[2:32:50] » by far, >> right? And, you know, we don't have our

[2:32:53] pension anymore. We have the 401A, which it's a great retirement plan, and

[2:33:00] it's portable, and it's got advantages to that. And it's more with the modern

[2:33:05] way of people spending five to seven years if you're lucky at your

[2:33:10] organization before moving on. That's why I mentioned succession planning is

[2:33:14] important to us because we're losing, you know, when somebody walks out after

[2:33:18] 30 years, have you captured what they know. Um, so that is one of the things

[2:33:24] we're going to bring to Dr. Condre is having the career ladders. when you come

[2:33:29] in, you know, you need to get this certification and work this number of

[2:33:34] years and you're going to be a senior clerk or a clerk two, three, four,

[2:33:39] whatever it is that we decide to do. >> Right. Mr. Sure. That that's the only

[2:33:42] thing I was saying. I I I just you know if we just getting strictly numbers for

[2:33:48] okay for your position or you know the different departments then I mean

[2:33:52] » I see what you mean now and that that is something that we're going to

[2:33:55] » right how detailed like you said >> leverage in this study. Yes.

[2:33:58] » Absolutely. All right. Thank you

[2:34:04] » Laura. Whenever he looks at this, he I assume that he does look at the um

[2:34:10] » job description and if you know education,

[2:34:15] » you know, if it needs requires a degree and that type of thing, he looks at at

[2:34:21] that. Also, >> he does and he'll work with the

[2:34:24] department heads on that to uh determine what level of education is needed for if

[2:34:29] it's an entry level position or something more specialized

[2:34:32] » or do they need to get it within six months or a year.

[2:34:37] » Works with the department heads on that. And we did a lot of that work on job

[2:34:41] descriptions with the 2023 paper.

[2:34:44] » That's right. >> And now we've gotten into much better

[2:34:47] practice as we post jobs. We're looking at them for updates.

[2:34:52] So >> Laura,

[2:34:55] » how many jobs description roughly off the top of your head you think have

[2:34:59] changed since the last study? >> How about 350?

[2:35:07] Um they continually get minor tweaks. Uh the only ones I would see changing is if

[2:35:13] we with the career ladders we would have to make some intermediate

[2:35:21] new job descriptions. >> Okay. [clears throat]

[2:35:24] » Well, I just hope that we don't run into the same problem that we did with the LA

[2:35:28] last one. Remember, with the uh one of our departments,

[2:35:36] Mr. Moses probably he was he was just coming in during that time.

[2:35:44] I don't want to go into detail, but >> lack of a better word, appeals. Remember

[2:35:47] that? >> Right. We did offer some appeals but um

[2:35:53] yes but we have to remind everybody that we're looking at a large county and

[2:35:58] there is something called internal equity. So what when you state your

[2:36:05] major duties and all of the thing those components on the job description that's

[2:36:11] what they're measuring. All right. Question. Since you said that, let's say

[2:36:14] you come in, he comes in and he selects who he wants to sit down with

[2:36:22] » and that person puts down their job description.

[2:36:27] Where does it go from there? But straight back to him or does it come

[2:36:30] back to admin and then go to Dr. Condre? >> Is the person sitting down with them the

[2:36:37] department head? >> Is that the only person he sits down

[2:36:40] with? the department head >> this last time. Yes.

[2:36:44] » Okay. >> And

[2:36:47] » so let's say you let's say you are my department head and

[2:36:52] » you put down something concerning me but I don't know what you put down. How does

[2:36:58] that go? >> Talking about like job description.

[2:37:02] » Yeah. When we finalized all the job

[2:37:07] descriptions, we sent them to all the departments to review.

[2:37:12] » Um, >> and that's what you used your

[2:37:16] » that's information provided to the >> right. We provided them to departments.

[2:37:19] They provided them to the employees and then that's when we offered the 90-day

[2:37:24] appeal period and the employees got a chance to see

[2:37:29] the finalized version of their job description and the pay and then come

[2:37:33] and ask any questions. at Liberty Region, we had to sign we had to sign

[2:37:36] ours to saying this is what we >> do every now with Palocity, we're able

[2:37:42] to build um the job descriptions in to um

[2:37:48] the system and associate them with each employee. So, um I don't think the

[2:37:54] visibility is turned on there yet, but we could do that or make it part of the

[2:37:59] um basically we take the job posting and base it on the job description. So,

[2:38:04] they're when they apply for a job, they're getting this all the

[2:38:07] information.

[2:38:11] » Go ahead. >> I But I I I understand what what

[2:38:14] Commissioner Stevenson is saying about that. That's why I again I I think this

[2:38:20] is needed. You know, I think us as a county, you know, we've always tried to

[2:38:26] make sure and strive that our our the foundation, which is you all are, you

[2:38:32] know, taken care of to our best our ability. I just want to make sure that

[2:38:36] it's not just a regular old study that don't come back and just say, "Okay,

[2:38:41] well, this is what we need." like promise and commissioner thrift just

[2:38:45] said it as well like you know if say for instance a baby boomer is retiring right

[2:38:55] and then a millennial comes with you know whenever that job description first

[2:39:00] was initiated you might have only needed a high school diploma but then a

[2:39:05] millennial comes in with maybe three or four years worth of

[2:39:10] experience but with a bachelor's and masters.

[2:39:14] Where do you start them at? Whenever they have the education,

[2:39:20] which whoever gets the education, you want to be compensated for your

[2:39:23] education. Where where do you go? Because I I know for a fact we've we

[2:39:30] have some some positions right now where somebody was replaced and they're making

[2:39:36] less than the other person, their predecessor. And I think you you know

[2:39:40] that as well because you are in HR. So what I'm saying is is is that something

[2:39:45] that we're going to consider as well. >> We could ask Dr. Condre to come up with

[2:39:50] a uh system such as that where they get extra steps for education experience,

[2:39:58] but that's going to come down to the budget um and what they would project

[2:40:02] that would cost to implement. >> And and and I and I agree 100%. But the

[2:40:08] reason why we're doing this, which you said earlier, is retention. So if

[2:40:13] » and improvement >> and and there you go. So what I'm saying

[2:40:17] is those are are questions that I know that if you're 45 and younger and you

[2:40:25] those are things that that matters you know because again

[2:40:31] 401ks and all you know that either a transfer you start another one

[2:40:37] keep it going. >> Mr. chair. Uh to answer Commissioner

[2:40:40] Stevens question, uh the department head would have to sign off on that

[2:40:45] particular job description. Um you could have ex you could have cases where there

[2:40:49] is some bias in that process. But what's good about Dr. Condr, they've worked

[2:40:54] with enough job description over the years. They can tell pretty much how job

[2:40:58] what the duties of a particular position are. That's where their wisdom

[2:41:02] institutional knowledge come into place. >> And one other question for you, Miss L.

[2:41:07] » [clears throat] >> Is there any other company around in the

[2:41:12] area that could do this same study? >> Uh UG has a group

[2:41:18] » so >> so Dr. Condre pull out from UG

[2:41:27] » 20 years. >> So he retired with the information

[2:41:32] of Liberty County >> with his education. I guess

[2:41:36] » one one thing I wanted to say is uh I'm hearing a lot about job descriptions and

[2:41:40] different things uh and doing this study uh everything ain't isolated just to a

[2:41:47] job description. A lot of people are doing way more than just their job

[2:41:50] description or they getting compensated like they should.

[2:41:54] » Right. >> You know,

[2:41:56] right? >> Tell me what you found out about other

[2:42:00] companies that do this. Uh, one one of the things I'm glad that question was

[2:42:04] asked. There are there are a bunch of companies that do that. A lot of

[2:42:07] companies, you know, they're starting prices in the 100 thousands. And it's

[2:42:11] ironic when we were doing this, um, it was uh, a question came across the list

[2:42:16] serve and people were asking, okay, who or somebody good that you recommend to

[2:42:21] to do a job description? UG and Condrin Associates were the two that was

[2:42:26] consistent that um, the people were responding to. Um, Staceboro, not

[2:42:31] Staceboro, but Bullet County just paid Arch and Surus and I guarantee it was

[2:42:35] $100,000. Uh, it's very lucrative to do these

[2:42:38] types of studies.

[2:42:42] » So, this this study would include rewriting job descriptions.

[2:42:47] » Yes, sir. >> If needed,

[2:42:54] » adding any new ones. >> See, old Clinton sitting out there. I

[2:42:56] mean, I can't imagine his job description to change it. I mean, he's

[2:42:59] he does everything. >> It's not on there.

[2:43:04] » No, no. >> Well, when you sat down with Dr. Condra,

[2:43:07] make sure you update [clears throat] him.

[2:43:09] » Don't be. >> No, I Mr. Chairman, I I got I got to run

[2:43:12] in a minute, but I I do want to say I think we did talk about this done,

[2:43:15] Laura. >> Well, I I just wanted to say this. We um

[2:43:20] it was one of those slides in there. U back up, Laura.

[2:43:24] Right. right there where you had one, two, three, four and one, two, three,

[2:43:28] four on both sides and you refer to the the right side as

[2:43:33] » 567 as 5, six, seven.

[2:43:36] » That's so and my my my question was was >> Nathan did something

[2:43:40] » was was the three on the right the same as seven, but that's a joke. [snorts]

[2:43:46] » No, no, no. My my my question u when we talked about this last month um and I

[2:43:53] think the question was we we've done these studies before Dr. Conra or

[2:43:58] somebody has done them before and and I guess and I'm just imagining this it may

[2:44:04] not be the case that once he get finished he gives us a report you know

[2:44:10] » right >> yes

[2:44:13] and um which is kind of like a recipe and and then one of those slides say

[2:44:19] that we do them every three to five years

[2:44:23] and if someone that and I was just thinking if you if someone did a study

[2:44:28] three years ago and then in 2019

[2:44:33] I mean what's the 26 2029 it's time to do another study you you

[2:44:39] you have that that recipe and you know so you go back to that and you kind of

[2:44:45] do the same thing that that was just my thought but then you you you had a list

[2:44:49] I mean a laundry list of reasons why it need to be done by somebody else and

[2:44:56] reasons why why we can't do it. And um I just thought that um you know we we've

[2:45:04] we've been through this process several times probably and I've been here

[2:45:09] probably three or four times since I was up here.

[2:45:12] And I guess um what we're saying is that each time it's done is different. It's

[2:45:19] not the same report that you got from him three years ago. is a he's going to

[2:45:24] give you a whole another report from a salary study, a different report.

[2:45:32] The outline of the report would be the same, but he's going through a whole new

[2:45:37] process of collecting the most current salary data from all the different

[2:45:42] sources that we outline. >> But I mean, that's what he gonna tell

[2:45:46] you. That's what he's doing. But, um, how how does he do that? I mean, with

[2:45:49] magic? >> No.

[2:45:52] They reach out to all those organizations personally.

[2:45:56] » Same ones he reached out to three years ago, wouldn't it?

[2:45:59] » Right. That's why he has all those relationships with all these different

[2:46:03] uh communities. He does this. So, >> but the country

[2:46:06] » I guess there's a big change in three years. So, when he he does it today and

[2:46:11] in 2029 when he does it again, there's something totally different. So, he's

[2:46:16] going to do that in three years. >> It's the same methodology that he's

[2:46:20] used. is really updating the numbers and we don't really delve into the all the

[2:46:27] background data that's not in his report. It's basically a summary report

[2:46:32] with the different options and costs for the board.

[2:46:35] I mean, you know, and I think we all want the the best for our employees. I

[2:46:40] mean, you know, so if if if a study um done by whoever, including us, could

[2:46:48] make things better for our employees, then I think we're all for that. But I

[2:46:52] just didn't think that um having Dr. Con or Steve here um to do a study that he's

[2:47:00] done time and time and time again to tell us what

[2:47:05] we probably could be able to refer to or that we should probably already know.

[2:47:10] But but maybe it is more to it than that. I'll

[2:47:13] » if if if we get him. Um and if y'all don't mind, I'll like to come in and see

[2:47:17] how he make the sausage. >> I was going to say we we don't know how

[2:47:21] the sausage is made. >> Well,

[2:47:22] » and then see what >> that's that's his secret.

[2:47:25] » Yeah. Yeah. That's what [laughter] I'm saying. He's not the only sausage maker,

[2:47:28] you know. >> You know,

[2:47:29] » I mean, it's like the chicken, man. You know how many spices, but

[2:47:32] » Yeah. >> at that I thought you would say, Mr.

[2:47:37] Mostly uh the study done three years ago from that data things could even have

[2:47:42] changed which states paid in 2023 they could be paying something different now

[2:47:46] then we'll know okay we're getting out of kilter because statesboro will county

[2:47:50] Wayne County now they're paying this >> that that is correct sir that they

[2:47:53] they've been through studies and they've they've up increased it to meet their

[2:47:57] market so everybody's has has done it that's a good point

[2:48:01] » and one I was thinking of >> but that sound

[2:48:04] » we're all trying to stay >> slightly

[2:48:07] We're sure. We're sure. >> And that's how the market keeps moving.

[2:48:10] » That is >> all right.

[2:48:13] » Okay. >> Okay. Any other questions?

[2:48:16] » Thank you. >> So, wait a minute. So, behind this

[2:48:19] study, if you are still here at the next go round, you should be able to do it

[2:48:24] yourself, right? >> Oh, it's going to be different.

[2:48:28] » Going to be fine. >> Yeah, it's going to be different.

[2:48:29] » Unless you want to send me to become an expert. And and and what was the price

[2:48:35] three years ago for the state? >> 32.

[2:48:37] » 32. >> 32.

[2:48:38] » Even that's different. >> Oh, yeah. So So yeah, [laughter]

[2:48:44] » the scale moves. >> I'm in three years going to be 40.

[2:48:48] » Oh man. >> All right. We've been here a long time.

[2:48:50] » I do have to go. >> Hold. Chair a motion.

[2:48:54] » Mr. Chairman, I make a motion we approve theou with Steve Condre and Associates.

[2:48:59] » Second with with all the details. >> All in favor? with all the details.

[2:49:05] » Thank you, sir. >> All right.

[2:49:10] » Mr. Wales. >> He didn't hear you.

[2:49:15] » Mr. Wales. >> I said, "Hey."

[2:49:17] » Hey, Gary. >> She still in here.

[2:49:24] » Well, even sir, >> we uh sent out some bids for replace one

[2:49:30] of our front load garbage trucks. We got some prices back from two

[2:49:34] different vendors on what we got. The low bid was Sam some equipment out of

[2:49:41] Statesboro 394950.

[2:49:47] » That was the low bid. And is it in the is in the CIP a budgeted item and come

[2:49:52] in [laughter] under budget? >> You check the other budget.

[2:49:57] » Uh Sam is SWAT. They brought out. >> Yeah, I know. I know. I just I

[2:50:03] » We're familiar with that vendor obviously.

[2:50:05] » We're familiar with that vendor obviously.

[2:50:07] » Yes, we use them all the time. We >> primary vendors.

[2:50:12] » Chair entertain a motion and commission. >> So that second

[2:50:17] » I make a motion approve. >> I second it.

[2:50:21] » Further discussion. All in favor of your hands, please.

[2:50:24] » All right, sir. >> Thank you. [laughter]

[2:50:26] » What's What's the turnaround time on the U delivery? He's actually got it on the

[2:50:30] yard. He's got to send us the body painted blue to match the rest of ours.

[2:50:33] » Yeah. >> Ready to go.

[2:50:35] » And I'm assuming we have the money. I guess it's too late.

[2:50:39] » He answered that. >> I know.

[2:50:40] » Yeah. >> I I can't hear it over over my stomach

[2:50:43] right now, you know. But >> wait a minute now.

[2:50:47] » Thank y'all. >> All right.

[2:50:49] » All right. >> Mr. Mosley, your report.

[2:50:51] » Nope. We got No, >> man. Man, we on the second page now.

[2:50:55] » Wait a minute. Oh god, >> we took that. It's it's it's still

[2:50:59] people in the audience, so I'm >> Yeah, I see that. Yeah. You know what?

[2:51:05] » Somebody didn't give me the second page. >> Okay. Uh yeah.

[2:51:10] » Uh talk that >> Chief Deputy uh Hagen.

[2:51:14] » Come on, Chief. >> Mr. Chair, I was he about to go sleep,

[2:51:18] but I was [laughter] going to invite him up. Here it goes. Right.

[2:51:20] » The we working night shift, chief. [laughter]

[2:51:25] Anything? Good afternoon commission. >> Okay,

[2:51:29] » visitors that are left. >> I just want to clear one thing real

[2:51:35] quick >> since it was mentioned and we are live

[2:51:39] here that the sheriff's department look at giving pay raises. The ones that we

[2:51:44] do give, we do do it within. We find creative ways within our budget. We have

[2:51:50] not come to the commission to ask for monies to the sheriff do everything he

[2:51:56] can to work within his budget because that's part of retention. We're the the

[2:52:01] market is constantly changing. But thank you for allowing me to make that quick.

[2:52:05] » Absolutely. >> Thank you, sir.

[2:52:06] » Clarification. >> That's not just you. That's other

[2:52:10] departments, too. >> But I'm here tonight to um come before

[2:52:16] you all to bring the um 26 2026 2027U

[2:52:24] between the school board and the county commissioners for the SRO program. Um

[2:52:31] the the contract hasn't didn't change much from

[2:52:37] last year's contract. Um we have um we did up two

[2:52:44] SRO's we have two supervisors, a lieutenant and a sergeant. Um and seven

[2:52:49] deputies in the schools. We have two in each high school. And then the what we

[2:52:56] did was looked at the plan to use dual resources like at the middle

[2:53:04] schools, have that officer cover the elementary schools that are attached as

[2:53:08] well. Um, I'm the sheriff and I firmly believed in combined resources and from

[2:53:15] that we were able to save the board from the last budget approximately $900,000.

[2:53:24] And so they were able to cut that from the SRO board as a result of us um

[2:53:30] shifting and cutting some of the positions. Um, so

[2:53:34] » you said save 900,000. >> Nice.

[2:53:40] So you just need approval for this year

[2:53:44] » ma'am. >> You just need approval for this year for

[2:53:46] the school board has already gone before the board and it's been approved by

[2:53:52] them. on our side.

[2:53:54] » And as you know, for those who don't know,

[2:53:58] » only thing that costs the county um commissioners or the county taxpayers is

[2:54:04] from the um you all basically pay out the salaries to the officers and re

[2:54:10] fully reimbured by the school board. >> Chief, does that

[2:54:16] that includes a benefit for them too, right?

[2:54:18] » Okay. Okay. That's that's what I know. >> No money by Okay. Yeah. And how many

[2:54:24] » what's your total overall bill out for all of the SRO's? Was it

[2:54:29] » total cost? >> No. Uh person per person.

[2:54:33] » Many >> how many? How many?

[2:54:36] » Nine. >> Nine. Now

[2:54:38] » nine with two supervisors, seven um daily operation. your supervisors own

[2:54:44] the different schools but also maintain all the um documentation

[2:54:51] full implementation. How many will it be? when y'all got full implement.

[2:54:54] » What's your expectation to get everybody?

[2:54:56] » Of course, we looked at 15. Okay, that's right. Total and that's what was funded.

[2:55:02] And then instead of funding that full 15, we go with nine, we cut back to

[2:55:09] instead of having that money sitting out there, that was able to go back to the

[2:55:13] board. >> And and that's and that's the $900,000

[2:55:16] that you just stated that that save, right? which is which is a win-win on

[2:55:20] both sides and and more importantly for the taxpayers. But we appreciate you uh

[2:55:25] I I think we already made a motion in a second already, but but [laughter] more

[2:55:29] but more well we really did. But but more importantly uh you know just being

[2:55:34] out there today you know uh at the schools just seeing the the safety that

[2:55:40] I felt you know uh even you know over at Bradwell they had the metal detectors

[2:55:46] the deputies were out there and and again for someone who has kids in the

[2:55:51] school system you know it it made me feel safe where where I know uh when my

[2:55:57] kids walk out the door of course I pray but hey that that's that's only that's

[2:56:01] only a little bit, you know, but but just to make sure, you know, the Bible

[2:56:05] says, you know, about works and

[2:56:11] » Yeah. You got you got to work it. >> Sound a little Baptist over here.

[2:56:14] » Sound a little Baptist over here, huh? >> Yeah. You said you wanted to go home,

[2:56:17] too. >> Amen.

[2:56:18] » A motion. We had a motion. Who made the motion?

[2:56:20] » Timmy made a motion. >> I made a second.

[2:56:23] » All right. All in favor? Thank you, J.

[2:56:28] And I want to thank the school board publicly too.

[2:56:31] » Absolutely. We app we appreciate that we have for them approving that because it

[2:56:36] helps to keep our kids safe. Thank you so much. Thank you for hanging there

[2:56:40] with us >> and love y'all. Y'all uniforms man.

[2:56:46] » Pretty spiffy.

[2:56:53] » You ready? >> Oh. Oh. M chair and [laughter] members

[2:56:55] of the board. Uh this is a house cleaning item. Uh as you know, it's very

[2:56:59] important for us to have uh people to sign off on ordinances. Uh when things

[2:57:04] go uh when Steve goes to when um uh um Mr. Morera goes to court, he has to have

[2:57:11] somebody sign off on the um on the codes. And right now, Maria is the only

[2:57:16] one that's uh authorized. And what this uh what we're requesting is to authorize

[2:57:21] the individual's name in it, but namely me uh Miss Hunter and also Miss

[2:57:25] Radcliffe to to sign uh codes uh for staff as they go to court.

[2:57:32] » Sounds good. >> Okay. Need a motion on that?

[2:57:35] » Yes, sir. >> Yeah, I'll make that motion.

[2:57:38] » Second. >> Motion to second. Any further

[2:57:40] discussion? Good. All in favor?

[2:57:45] » Next item on the agenda, Mr. there uh is a resolution. We're not going to read

[2:57:49] it. Uh but basically uh D uh EPD is uh doing some uh reorganization um and but

[2:57:56] in our region uh Mr. Field ODM has been on the uh um state uh water policy

[2:58:02] council for a long time and he would like to be renominated uh by Liberty

[2:58:06] County to uh maintain on there. He's done a great job and he's been outspoken

[2:58:11] and been a great advocate for Liberty County and water resources in the area.

[2:58:14] Yes. Still over there. >> He is.

[2:58:16] » I make that motion. Chairman >> second.

[2:58:20] » Any further discussion? >> All in favor? Mr. You're reappointed.

[2:58:26] » Mr. Everything water. I appreciate you, sir.

[2:58:29] » Uh, next item, Mr. Chair, is a um item. Uh basically it says that uh when

[2:58:36] elected officials and that's all elected officials uh when they leave office they

[2:58:40] can elect to take their tablet phone and phone number with them at any their

[2:58:44] office and when they take it with them they'll be responsible they coordinate

[2:58:48] with our IT department and basically they will be responsible for going to

[2:58:52] their whatever selection they want in terms of service and they will re uh new

[2:58:57] the service through a new provider and should they not they would simply turn

[2:59:01] it over to it. That's all this particular policy is and it is a

[2:59:05] amendment to our information security usage policy.

[2:59:09] » Yes sir. Mr. Chairman I make a motion for approval.

[2:59:12] » Second

[2:59:15] further discussion. >> Oh we already made second. Okay cool.

[2:59:22] » All right. Date funds committee. >> Yes sir.

[2:59:27] » Okay. And uh we had two Afric well we

[2:59:31] » uh >> F

[2:59:33] » F >> this one

[2:59:35] » contract with Minute Man security. >> Mr. Chair, I'm going to ask my IT

[2:59:39] director and also >> to

[2:59:42] » uh now I also asked the other gentleman, Mr. Jesse, to accompany him and they can

[2:59:47] do a presentation.

[2:59:51] [laughter] >> Good evening everybody. Uh this is why I

[2:59:55] wore the suit. um coming for you coming for you tonight. Um this is kind of a

[3:00:01] unique project. Um try to think the best way to to explain it. Um so we have 13

[3:00:06] county buildings that have physical access security systems in them. Um with

[3:00:09] three different security access system controllers. Um the the largest being

[3:00:15] our justice center courthouse and courthouse annex. Um that system was put

[3:00:19] in when the justice center was built and the system has reached the end of its

[3:00:23] life. I don't want to go into a whole lot of details what what's going on but

[3:00:27] um we uh reached out to our uh longtime security vendor Minute Man um who used

[3:00:33] to be adapt who has put in uh physical security systems, camera systems and um

[3:00:38] for the county to um recommend uh different systems that can come in

[3:00:45] and unify and connect all 13 buildings to one system. We currently have three.

[3:00:50] Uh just to kind of explain, when we hire a fireman, we have to put the fireman in

[3:00:53] two different systems. When we hire a deputy, we have to put the deputy in

[3:00:56] three different systems to be able to get into the buildings. Um put for y'all

[3:00:59] to get in this building, go into one building. If you want to come into one

[3:01:02] system, if you want to come into my building, we got to put you into another

[3:01:05] system. Uh so we asked Minute Man to to uh come up with some companies that that

[3:01:10] could handle 13 buildings and all the access control readers that we do have

[3:01:13] in those buildings and to recommend some systems uh that would handle it. Um we

[3:01:19] we got a small committee together, myself, administration, the sheriff's

[3:01:22] office, building maint um there's somebody else in there, 911 and EMA uh

[3:01:29] to to evaluate the systems and um we settled on the Genitech system

[3:01:35] um for the system that we need that would meet our needs and it had the

[3:01:39] features that we liked. It was able to unify and connect all the buildings

[3:01:43] together. Uh we will have to replace some hardware in some buildings. Some of

[3:01:47] the newer buildings that we've just completed. Uh they will be able to

[3:01:50] reflash the the little boxes that control the doors to the new software

[3:01:54] that will work with this. So we won't have to physically replace some some of

[3:01:57] the hardware, but most of the hardware we will have to replace. Um

[3:02:03] and let's see here. And we were able to do that for $71,000.

[3:02:11] Um, and we're asking the board to approve that. So, as far as funding

[3:02:16] goes, um, $460,000 of this was uh um earmarked in the capital improvement

[3:02:24] capital improvement budget. Trying to make sure I say that right. Was

[3:02:26] earmarked in the capital improvement budget, which was approved by the

[3:02:29] commission. Um, and Miss Richardson has identified funds. Um I'm not really sure

[3:02:35] where, but she has identified funds that are existing to pay for the additional

[3:02:39] $241,000 of the project. Uh so this would be paid for, not we don't have to

[3:02:44] lease anything, but would be paid for would would not require a budget

[3:02:47] adjustment. >> Where did Samantha find the

[3:02:50] » bond money? >> And and what money

[3:02:54] » bond money?

[3:02:58] » It's a very good system. We got our Minute Man representative here who will

[3:03:02] be handling the installation, maintenance, and all of that. And Miss

[3:03:05] Laura who's the financing and and put the quote together, sales, and put the

[3:03:09] quote together. If you have any questions, uh, this is a security

[3:03:12] matter, so we kind of might be a little vague on a couple of things, but any

[3:03:16] questions, >> where did you get your suit from?

[3:03:20] [laughter] >> I mean, vague. I mean, seriously,

[3:03:22] without we really we really should be openly discussing a lot of that

[3:03:27] questions. That's that's why right >> that's why he's speaking vaguely sir.

[3:03:30] » Yeah. And that's why I just asked about a suit that let's let's just

[3:03:33] » you trying to >> right let's just keep it moving

[3:03:36] » would be help I'll answer any questions offline that you that you may have if

[3:03:39] you want some specific >> just out of curiosity ready to go home

[3:03:43] too health department would not be one of the building. So so when they go over

[3:03:47] there how >> you would need another card.

[3:03:49] » Okay. This handles um all three courouses, uh three fire stations, three

[3:03:54] MS buildings, the gates of public works, all the IT 911, EMA building.

[3:04:00] » Okay. >> Just a center and yeah, the three

[3:04:02] courouses. >> How long you think this will last?

[3:04:05] » Um >> 10 15 years.

[3:04:08] » One of the reasons we went with this system was for future growth and

[3:04:11] expandability. So as we add new buildings, as we discern, you know,

[3:04:14] determined that we want this door to have access control on it, this system

[3:04:17] can scale out and do that. we can add on to it.

[3:04:20] » That was really the only question I really had.

[3:04:22] » And that was the problem. The current system, both all three systems that we

[3:04:25] currently have, we cannot do that. They're they're old. They've reached

[3:04:27] their end of the life and and finding the parts are is a problem. Um,

[3:04:32] » and how long would it take to implement this?

[3:04:35] » There's clear on how you wanted to schedule it.

[3:04:40] » Within three, six months, you could have it all switched out.

[3:04:45] » We got the money. He's found the money.

[3:04:49] around the court systems and people coming in. We'd have to work around the

[3:04:53] the evening hours for all of that to to >> and then act,

[3:04:58] » right? And then everyone would get another badge or whatever

[3:05:02] » or some most of them would. >> I would suggest that new badges, but you

[3:05:07] can reuse some of the badges that you have, but I would suggest

[3:05:12] » who in this area has the system. >> Oh goodness. Glen County has it. I've

[3:05:17] talked with them. They had they said don't go leave and look at anybody else.

[3:05:20] I've asked some other counties. I don't remember. It's been so long, but there

[3:05:24] are county, >> but Glen County is one of the

[3:05:28] » Do you know of any other? >> So, yeah, they actually have this in

[3:05:33] Atlanta, Fton County. So, and I'll tell you is with you guys being with all the

[3:05:38] stuff. This is a system that's built more for um like a cyber secure. I don't

[3:05:43] know if you guys have heard what's going on with like Newton County and what's

[3:05:46] going on with surrounding counties in Georgia right now, but they're holding

[3:05:50] these counties And this system is built around that to prevent this stuff from

[3:05:55] happening. So there is a lot of counties in Atlanta that do use Genitech. Um we

[3:06:00] are now finding that more schools are actually going to Genitech uh for that

[3:06:04] very reason. >> Clint, who will actually uh

[3:06:09] monitor or manage the system? >> So this system the way it's done now is

[3:06:16] managed by like different people. This system will be integrated in with our

[3:06:19] network security. So when we create a user, when we set up your email, uh

[3:06:23] it'll put you in a department and being in that department will give you the

[3:06:26] access that you need. Um when that person separates employment or is

[3:06:31] separated, it removes that access instantly.

[3:06:34] » So there's [clears throat] no one particular

[3:06:37] » again >> person that you can say manage the whole

[3:06:40] entire system for the county. >> Again, it would be it.

[3:06:45] » Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Okay. >> But Mr. share again, you know, uh

[3:06:53] if if we can just keep keep the the question limited, you know, whatever

[3:06:57] you're dealing with. I mean, on a serious note, when whenever you're

[3:07:00] dealing with uh >> let let me tell y'all about scammers,

[3:07:04] man, let >> we going home now.

[3:07:07] » Yeah, I know. So, that's why I'm just saying let's just listen. When whenever

[3:07:12] whenever they make a whole song now about scammers,

[3:07:16] » Yeah. Y'all, I know y'all probably don't listen to that station, but it is a

[3:07:19] whole song out there about how they spin it. So, in other words, if we can just

[3:07:24] not ask too many questions about about security on a serious note.

[3:07:28] » Thank you. >> U and what I'm asking for tonight is for

[3:07:30] the board to approve you or the chairman.

[3:07:33] » Authorized chairman. >> Authorized chairman to sign a contract

[3:07:37] for the uh $71,000 purchase um contingent upon the county attorney

[3:07:42] approving the contract. I got one question that you said that that funding

[3:07:46] is available. >> Yes, sir.

[3:07:48] » Okay, Mr. Chairman, I'm ready for a motion. I'll make that motion. Chairman

[3:07:52] second motion and a second that we approve the request presented. Any

[3:07:55] further discussion? Think we had plenty. All in favor? Show of hands. All right.

[3:08:00] Thank you, Mr. Stanley. >> Look forward to enhancement of our

[3:08:05] security system. >> Didn't he didn't he say that's a minimum

[3:08:08] investment? >> All right.

[3:08:13] My readings item G.

[3:08:17] » Yes, Mr. Chairman. The uh committee has met and reviewed

[3:08:23] the applications. had one each for um

[3:08:34] the uh date fund and uh applicant is the Liberty County

[3:08:40] Boys and Girls Club submitted application and we um agreed to approve

[3:08:48] the amount requested was $5,000.

[3:08:52] » That would be my motion, Mr. Chairman. >> Second, Mr. Motion second. We approve

[3:08:56] the allocation of the funds to Li County Boys and Girl. I see Miss Ed.

[3:09:02] » Oh, >> all in favor? Show of hands, please.

[3:09:04] » All right. Second. >> Yes, sir. Also, the uh Liberty County

[3:09:08] Boys and Girls Club submitted uh application for the opioid settlement

[3:09:14] fund for $20,000. These funds are available and uh I would make a motion

[3:09:20] we approve the application for $20,000. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair.

[3:09:23] » Mr. Chair, I got it.

[3:09:28] Since you're sitting out there, Miss War, Miss Green,

[3:09:33] » um, got one question. I know a while back you were connected with the Boys

[3:09:37] and Girls Club in Savannah, correct? >> Yes, sir.

[3:09:40] » Are you still connected with them?

[3:09:45] » So, this funds will be used only for Liberty County.

[3:09:50] » Absolutely. Not

[3:09:58] to help us.

[3:10:03] » Okay. So, you

[3:10:13] » already have 54 kids

[3:10:22] had to come away.

[3:10:33] What a grateful. Thank you. And I will spread the word.

[3:10:37] » All right. >> No problem.

[3:10:40] » Okay. You want to make com >> comment before we vote?

[3:10:44] » Uh, y'all got a motion? We need a vote. >> Vote.

[3:10:49] » Oh. Um, uh, Commissioner Emma, you can do I'll let you do so. Just just make

[3:10:54] the statement. [laughter] >> And, uh, on what we're talking about

[3:10:58] here, I just like to make it known to the to the taxpayers that, uh, without

[3:11:02] going into great detail, but this is not actually tax money that's coming from

[3:11:06] the taxpayer and all. I just want to make that clear. This is money that's

[3:11:09] been settled >> from different court cases and different

[3:11:12] thing that goes back into the system. as plain as I know how to explain.

[3:11:18] » You did a good job, sir. >> Um, Mr. I just ask you that if I read

[3:11:23] item G without being here, I would assume that all this is date funds. You

[3:11:27] need to make the notation that this the 20,000 is opiate.

[3:11:31] » Yes, sir. Okay. >> Okay. Yes, sir.

[3:11:33] » Just for clarity. >> Okay. All in favor?

[3:11:38] All right. Thank you, Miss for what you do in the community.

[3:11:42] » A whole lot more to me, sir. and you and your team.

[3:11:46] » Oh yeah. Uh C Councilman Kelly as well. >> Yeah, but she know she works hard over

[3:11:52] there. >> Okay. Go ahead,

[3:11:56] » sir. >> Uh Mr. Chair, quickly, uh EMA Bob

[3:11:59] received a final check for $33,6496

[3:12:04] for the remaining Hurricane Helen projects. Uh he's waiting to get some

[3:12:08] money from category Z. under finances. Uh we are assembling the actors that you

[3:12:15] heard the other day. Uh talk about the water reclamation facility, the

[3:12:19] financing of that >> and also I noted I share with chairman

[3:12:23] is that we're eligible to receive $130,000 from the tree act, right?

[3:12:28] » Uh that money is sitting there. I was contacted by ACCG to apply for those

[3:12:33] funds and uh Samantha and I are going to sit down and we're going to put together

[3:12:36] the application and we'll bring back a resolution because that's one of the

[3:12:40] requirements at the uh next commission meeting to get that completed and we

[3:12:44] will apply for those funds. Uh Commissioner um Stevens was alluding to

[3:12:48] on landfield. We received a letter from EPD uh from anc inspection that was done

[3:12:54] on March the 4th, 2026 and it highlights several issues that need to be resolved.

[3:12:59] Larry Myers, who's our environment engineer, has worked with uh Clinton

[3:13:02] Wales to address those issues and he's going to submit a letter and we're going

[3:13:06] to send it to EPD to show to show how we plan to mitigate other areas. Uh y'all

[3:13:12] just went over security for the annex. Uh

[3:13:16] one of the things that came out and I was talking to uh Mr. Payne was we got

[3:13:21] our um preliminary do sales tax ratio and it looked good. Um I'm asking Keith

[3:13:27] to come to the uh work session and to talk about in details, but they're

[3:13:32] within range and they were at 38%. He said normally they like to see 36 to

[3:13:36] 42%. So we're in that good sweet spot, but he's going to come [clears throat]

[3:13:39] and explain that in detail. Uh also in your packet is a notification for the

[3:13:44] city of Riceboro. They want to do some annexation and particularly uh it

[3:13:49] involves land owned by the Mount Zion Missionary Baptist Church there and they

[3:13:52] want to build some houses there. >> New Zion.

[3:13:54] » I'm about to say I'm sorry. Man, listen. Mount Zion. Yeah. Yeah. We

[3:13:58] we not selling. That's on EB Cooper Road. And one of the

[3:14:02] things they noted in the in in the request was we had to protest that we

[3:14:07] had facilities in the area and we do not have any count.

[3:14:10] » We don't have any. >> And last thing I want to note, Mr. share

[3:14:14] is that we have a ribbon cutting for our new MS station on September 3rd at 9:00

[3:14:19] a.m. >> At the next meeting, will you bring us

[3:14:23] up to date on item one or did you do it just now?

[3:14:29] » Uh, let me Okay, got I'll bring up the >> Okay, good.

[3:14:35] » I know you and Commissioner Thrift and Blunt are doing that. So,

[3:14:40] yes, sir. We'll we'll dig a little deeper. We got another meeting.

[3:14:43] » Okay. >> All right.

[3:14:44] » Oh, just real quick, I I appreciate the support with uh for our our STEM uh day

[3:14:50] camp that we had. >> Uh we had what 30 participants and uh

[3:14:55] we're looking at bringing it back uh in the in the spring. Of course, you know,

[3:14:59] the commission that's that's part of our whole youth

[3:15:04] uh initiative. And it was sold out in what two days? No, but yeah, one day.

[3:15:12] And Mr. Mosie, just for the rest of the board, we do have a some of us have a

[3:15:17] meeting scheduled on the >> 10th. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Thank you,

[3:15:22] sir. Thank you, sir. Uh for our county workshop. Um

[3:15:27] uh talk to Maria. She's got rooms and what she want to do is make sure from

[3:15:32] you guys, all you guys planning to go and if y'all are, we're going to

[3:15:36] complete your application so we can submit and pay the registration fees.

[3:15:39] So, is everybody here going? Commissioner Frasier,

[3:15:44] » hey, I responded. >> Well, she's she's been out of pocket and

[3:15:48] we're trying to >> My bad.

[3:15:49] » Yeah. >> We're trying to make sure everything

[3:15:51] » Yeah. I I was I was actually talking about the 10th that we meet on the

[3:15:56] project in Riceboro >> and on August.

[3:15:59] » Oh, is that >> I mean August.

[3:16:02] » Uh so we'll send the time out. >> Okay. All right.

[3:16:09] So, what Commissioner Stevens is alluding to, we're meeting with the uh

[3:16:13] PA pastors and concerned citizens around a roundabout at uh SR119 in Bariton

[3:16:21] Ferry as we get ready to plan that roundabout. So, we're going to be

[3:16:24] meeting [clears throat] with them out in the field,

[3:16:26] » right? >> Uh to look at it one more time. So,

[3:16:28] that's what he's alluding to. >> Yeah. Okay.

[3:16:32] » All right. All right. Good. The agenda that's just a carry over from last time

[3:16:38] executive session. We don't have >> No, sir. We will talk about that later.

[3:16:41] But yes, sir. >> We're good. We're good.

[3:16:43] » We're good. >> Let's go home. Shar motion to journ.

[3:16:48] » All in favor?

[3:16:54] Patrick, we got our money.

Board of Commissioners - August 4, 2026 Regular Meeting

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