[0:00] All right, welcome everybody to our Tuesday May 7th Council meeting. We are back to start our 6 p.m. workshop with wonderful topics of talking trash again, and 25 legislative agenda. So I'm going to turn so we're to mark.

[0:20] All right. Thank you, Mayor. And members of the council, as you'll see as we walk through this.

[0:26] The first thing that I want to let everyone know as we enter into this discussion is that this is a starting point and just that provides some information for you to chew on.

[0:37] Get you an opportunity to ask questions and maybe have some discussion about the topic and set some preferences about what staff does going forward.

[0:47] we're not, although there will be a recommendation at the end of the presentation, we're not expecting for a final decision to come from tonight's conversation.

[0:57] So I just wanted to kind of set the stage for what to expect as we go through this.

[1:03] And so if we can queue up the presentation, we will start, if you go to the next slide with just kind of a backstory.

[1:15] and I'm specifically now going to be talking, starting here with this slide and going through

[1:22] the remainder of the presentation in the context of our existing solid waste collection agreement.

[1:29] So we're not going to be delving into the solid waste management plan or the county-wide

[1:34] system, although those are related topics. They're not directly related to the discussion we have in

[1:42] of us tonight talking about the collection contract. And so if you look at the kind of the history going

[1:49] back to 2014 when two kind of parallel contracts were executed, you'll see what's in place.

[1:58] We have an agreement with waste management for solid waste collection that was executed back in September

[2:04] of 2014 and it expires on November 30th of 2024, almost identical contract with Sunshine to

[2:12] Sposal, executed in November, also expires on November 30th of 2024, and then we have a couple

[2:20] of amendments to the waste management agreement, and they make very minor modifications to the

[2:26] of the contract, but they don't change the expiration of the contract. So those two amendments

[2:35] would carry through the expiration of the contract in any renewals. And so that's kind of the

[2:44] backdrop that we will start the discussion around. And if we can go to the next slide, please. And then

[2:50] going and delving directly into solid waste options.

[2:55] And these are focused primarily on the residential customers.

[2:59] And if you look going from top left to bottom right,

[3:03] you'll see that for garbage, we do have the contract

[3:07] with waste management.

[3:08] We have contract rates there that's a curbside service.

[3:10] And then as you go from left to right,

[3:12] you see the difference is there.

[3:15] So essentially, residential customers in Liberty Lake

[3:19] have a curbside option and a self-haul option.

[3:24] And so you are not required to have garbage service

[3:29] through the waste management contract.

[3:31] If you choose not to have that service or subscribe

[3:34] to that service, your only other option is to self-haul

[3:38] to either the sunshine transfer station, which

[3:41] is on university or any of the county facilities.

[3:45] We have contract rates at the sunshine facility,

[3:47] we have prevailing rates at the county facilities. And so that holds for the rest of those cells

[3:53] on the table. And so the only other thing that I wanted to point out is that you can be a

[3:59] recycle only customer in Liberty Lake through the waste management contract, but you cannot be a

[4:05] garbage only customer. So if you subscribe to the solid waste garbage curbside service, you are

[4:12] automatically enrolled in the recycled service.

[4:16] There's also an organics service that you can subscribe to

[4:20] and then the bulky waste and this will come into play

[4:25] further when we get into an analysis of the rates.

[4:29] The bulky is handled either as a cell fall option,

[4:33] one of these other facilities or in the annual event

[4:36] that waste management partners with us on,

[4:38] was just a week or so ago at a town square park.

[4:43] There is no curbside household hazardous waste option,

[4:47] but there is a self-al option at all of the county facilities.

[4:51] If we can go to the next slide, please.

[4:54] And so this is just to give you some statistics

[4:58] from the, not from the beginning of the contract itself,

[5:02] but going back to 2018 is when we have access

[5:05] to these residential and commercial customer accounts,

[5:09] you'll see, and those lines at the top are indistinguishable

[5:13] because of the condition that I mentioned earlier,

[5:16] where if you're a garbage customer,

[5:18] you're automatically enrolled in the recycling

[5:21] curbside program.

[5:22] And so those two top lines run almost identically

[5:26] from left to right.

[5:28] And you can see that there's a trend upward

[5:30] and you would expect that.

[5:31] We're a growing community and you would expect

[5:34] to see the number of residential customers for,

[5:36] both garbage and recycling on the increase and they are.

[5:40] And then also for the residential organics,

[5:42] you can see, not quite as high of a trend,

[5:47] but still trending upward.

[5:50] Next slide, please.

[5:54] Same look for commercial customers,

[5:56] and you'll see the scale is a little bit different,

[5:58] but you've got a little bit sharper slope

[6:00] on the commercial side.

[6:02] The top line is the commercial garbage customers,

[6:04] the bottom line is the roll-off commercial customers and you see that's holding pretty steady

[6:09] going back from 2018 through the end of 2023. Next slide please.

[6:17] Total tonnage collected

[6:18] and you can see that top line is residential, I'm sorry this is all customer types but that's

[6:24] garbage and you can see the trend again heading upward in the interest thing if you did some statistical

[6:30] modeling on this, the slopes of the total tonage on garbage and the number of customers is

[6:37] almost the same, meaning that you're adding the same amount of units as you increase time.

[6:47] And so those are tracking almost identically. And then you see the recycle and the organics

[6:52] below that. And it's interesting and you can as a customer probably understand why the organics

[6:59] line is doing the EKG deal there because you have heavy months in spring summer and less heavy

[7:07] months in winter and you're seeing that reflected in the tonnage there. Next slide please.

[7:15] This is just another example of some data that we're able to get through waste management

[7:21] and you see the average set out way. It's interesting that on the garbage side there's not much

[7:25] a change. It's it's pretty steady and so although the number of customers are increasing and the

[7:31] tonnage is increasing overall the average set-out weight is about the same and so you're not

[7:37] getting more garbage on average per person or at least from a weight perspective you're not getting

[7:42] more and you see the variability of the organics which you would expect again seasonally.

[7:49] Next slide please and so now we're going to talk about the rates and look at some information not only

[7:57] about the Liberty Lake rates, but about some neighbors as well.

[8:01] If you look at the residential rates, and you see those are the different components.

[8:07] And there are, if you look at the rate schedule, there are dozens of rates, right?

[8:13] So we, we're not reflecting all of those on this chart.

[8:16] What we're doing is we're taking a hypothetical customer using a 64 gallon trash bin, a 64 gallon

[8:28] I'm sorry, the given recycle bin and then the yard waste bin and adding all of those components as if you had all of those services and so that's the rate that you see this isn't necessarily everyone's rate in the city as a as a residential customer this is just an example of the rates as they are demonstrated in the rate schedule.

[8:51] And so as you can see, going from 2015, the first year that the rates were really applied

[8:58] on January 1, 2015 and then going through our rate that were set in December of 2023

[9:06] for 2024, you see the increase there and we have a rate accelerator that I'll explain in a

[9:14] moment, but I want to explain that red bar at the bottom of all of those columns except

[9:19] to the 2024 column. What that is is the recycle commodity credit. And so in our contract,

[9:27] we have a recycle commodity credit that is applied annually as part of the rate. And so in

[9:34] all of those years between 2015 and 2023, that was a credit that was going back to the customer.

[9:42] So in essence, you would take the size of that red portion and shave it off the top. So it's actually

[9:48] lowering the rate because it's a credit and 2024 that credit is a negative number or a positive

[9:58] number. It's a charge, not a credit. And so in effect between 2023 and 2024 there was a bit

[10:06] of a price increase that was above the normal CPI rated adjustment. And so that's a difference in

[10:16] our rate structure as opposed to some of our other jurisdictions that surround us.

[10:23] And so, as you look at that, you see the entries, but you have to factor in that commodity

[10:32] credit and we'll talk a little bit more about that in the next couple of slides.

[10:36] If we can go to the next slide, please.

[10:38] And if anywhere in here, please stop me if you have questions.

[10:41] I don't want to overlook any questions.

[10:44] We talked about the Liberty Lake rate, the contract rate for the duration of the contract so far and now if we look at a little bit of the comparison between some of the other jurisdictions that are around us.

[10:56] I wanted to show you a couple of other examples of WM contracts and then one that is not.

[11:05] And the one that is not is Cheney, they conduct the service as a service of the city, it's a city department.

[11:14] And so you can see the impact on the rates there.

[11:17] We're using 2024 rates in this table.

[11:21] And so again, we're just picking some things out of the rate schedule that would be possible to choose as a residential customer.

[11:30] So you've got a 64 gallon garbage container.

[11:35] It's possible that you have an extra garbage container.

[11:38] There's a rate for that, a 64 gallon recyclable container,

[11:43] and then yard food, yard only, and bulky.

[11:46] And you see down at the bottom line there, the differences.

[11:50] The one thing that I do want to point out,

[11:52] especially as it pertains to comparing us

[11:55] with the other two WM contract cities, Spokane Valley,

[11:59] and Airway Heights, for example, Spokane Valley

[12:02] does not have the commodity contract, I mean the commodity credit, neither does airway

[12:10] heights, Spokane Valley has a item rate on their bulk pickup, and so for example, if you

[12:18] were to get rid of a refrigerator and a mattress in a year, the costs for those two things

[12:25] is about $65. And so if you spread that $65 over 12 months, we're all of a sudden equal.

[12:32] If you count the credit, especially from the last seven years,

[12:37] our rate is even lower than that.

[12:40] Same comparison with airway.

[12:43] They don't have the credit.

[12:44] And so when you count the credit into this,

[12:47] this year, it will have the opposite effect.

[12:50] But in the previous years,

[12:51] you would see where that would have a downward drag on our rate,

[12:56] as compared to airway and Spookan Valley.

[13:00] Any questions about that?

[13:06] Okay.

[13:07] And so, that's not a cargles online.

[13:09] So if somebody sees that he has a question because we're trying to get me in.

[13:14] Good point.

[13:17] Next slide, please.

[13:20] So we talked earlier about the increase and why you saw the rise in rates.

[13:26] Well, the contract has a clause in there where there is an acceleration.

[13:32] and an adjustment, an annual adjustment,

[13:36] and then other types of adjustments that are possible

[13:40] in the annual adjustment,

[13:42] which is indexed to the consumer price index,

[13:46] and you see it across the board here,

[13:47] again, with the same comparables,

[13:50] the rate is broken down into two components.

[13:53] You have a service component and a disposal component,

[13:57] and you can see for resident,

[13:59] And residential customers in Liberty Lake, the service component is indexed at 100% of the CPI,

[14:06] whereas the disposal component is indexed at 90% of the CPI.

[14:10] So whatever the CPI is, factored between August and August, you would take 90% of that

[14:16] apply it to the disposal rate and that's your increase.

[14:19] On the service side, it would be the full CPI number.

[14:23] And then for material and other changes, those are upon request, and they have to be in writing.

[14:32] The difference between Liberty Lake and say Spokane Valley is that they are indexed on both components of the rate at 90%.

[14:40] And Airway has an outside MOU that dictates the increase on the disposal component.

[14:47] And so some, some differences there.

[14:51] Cheney, they, they adjust their rates annually based on a rate review.

[14:55] Similar to the rate review.

[14:56] We conduct annually as part of our budget process since it's a city service.

[14:59] They do that in.

[15:02] Next slide, please. Some of the other adjustments that we've experienced in the 10, almost 10 years that the contract has been in effect.

[15:13] In section 83 of the contract, it provides for adjustments for changes to taxes fees and other things.

[15:20] And we've had one of those in the 10 years since the contract was executed.

[15:25] And that occurred in April of 2020 and it was related to a state law regarding the B&O tax. Next slide, please.

[15:33] We also had as stipulated by Section 84 in the contract, a periodic adjustment due to extraordinary circumstances and we've had one of those in addition to the annual increases that occurred in September of 2018 and that was related to some of the recycle commodity pricing that was occurring that caused increased processing costs.

[15:58] and so there was a there was an adjustment that was factored into the rate based on that next

[16:04] slide please. And section eight six there is a clause that allows for there to be some

[16:13] adjustments based on the tariff we've had one of those that occurred in December 2016 and it was

[16:20] related to moving from tariff number 17 to tariff number 18 and then next slide and then there

[16:28] There's a force, measure, clause, and the contract, which is a common clause in most contracts.

[16:34] And we've had force, measure, and vote once, and probably, like most contracts across

[16:42] the country, there was a force, measure, and vote as a result of COVID-19 emergency declaration.

[16:49] Next slide, please.

[16:52] There is a dispute, controversies, or claims, clause, and the contract section 25.

[16:56] that we've had zero disputes controversies or claims in the next slide.

[17:04] We don't have one system that allows us to track and understand the volume of incoming

[17:15] requests.

[17:17] And if we look at that data, we've had statistically zero complaints that have come through

[17:24] that system related to our solid waste provider.

[17:33] And it totally, when you talk to the people

[17:35] who collect calls and emails and other things

[17:39] related to city services,

[17:42] we've had almost zero complaints concerns

[17:47] about the solid waste collection service that we're getting.

[17:52] I've been here now, almost two years, I've received exactly one, and so if that gives you any indication.

[18:01] Now, that's not to say that customer complaints aren't going to the customer service center at WM.

[18:08] I'm sure they are, but none of those are rising to the level where people believe that they're not getting satisfactory responses,

[18:16] and so they bring that to city hall. We're just not seeing that.

[18:21] And so I'm going to pause here and that's a lot of information fairly quickly and so I want to give Council at this point the opportunity to ask any questions or start any discussion on any of these points before we go to the next slide and then beyond.

[18:39] I've got one and now I'm up and running. Thank you guys for doing that.

[18:43] Mayor Pertem.

[18:46] Mark, just a quick question for you. The numbers that you showed earlier, do they include the utility tax that we had charged prior to this year in those right numbers?

[18:58] Not in the rates, so the tax would be applied on the invoice that goes out to the customer separate from the rate. Okay. Thank you.

[19:09] Council member Kurtz, do you have any data on how often people use the bulky waste?

[19:16] Like the event that we just had last week and how many of our residents actually use that versus maybe like

[19:24] like Spokane Valley where you have I think the Spokane Valley where you have to pay to bring over whatever it is.

[19:31] Do we have any way of tracking the volume of cars that come in?

[19:38] We can find that out.

[19:42] I can offer that we had a little over 300 coupons collected last weekend.

[19:49] Thanks, Jen.

[19:49] Thank you.

[19:52] Anybody else?

[19:54] I don't see any.

[19:57] So again, I'll reiterate that this was designed to be the starting point of a conversation.

[20:04] And so if we can go to the next slide.

[20:07] the staff's recommendation at this point in reflection of everything that you've seen and we've talked about this evening is to extend the agreement between the city and waste management of Washington for an additional six year term that is stipulated in the contract and section two.

[20:28] And to do that, it requires written notification by us to WN by September the second, it requires 90 days prior to the expiration.

[20:37] And so what that would do is increase or expand the effect of date and make it from December the 21st, 2024 to November 30 of 2030.

[20:49] And so with that, again, I'll pause and say, this is not something that we expect.

[20:54] And answer on this evening, we know that there are considerations that need to be made.

[21:02] And you all need to have some discussion with yourselves and with us.

[21:06] But that is the starting point for what comes next.

[21:10] And I will say that if Council, at some point agrees and makes the decision to take staff's recommendation.

[21:18] We have plenty of time obviously to submit this written notification to WM.

[21:24] on the other side, however, if Council does not accept staff's recommendation, we need to

[21:33] hustle because we will have to go through a solicitation in a fairly short amount of

[21:39] time.

[21:39] It's possible we can do it, but we have essentially between now and November 30 to get all

[21:47] of that done.

[21:48] and so I'll just open the floor again for questions, comments, concerns.

[21:54] I'll go to the council member, Ballon, and then Mayor Pertum Parkle.

[21:59] Mark, my question though, is do we have any other options? Are they kind of the only game in town?

[22:07] So currently, they are our contract provider. If we go out on the market, yes, I would anticipate

[22:14] there would be other companies that would bid on that service,

[22:22] but currently WM is our contract provider.

[22:26] Right, I understand that.

[22:28] Okay, county being one of them as well, right?

[22:32] I mean, I know, I don't know if the council member done was around in those days too.

[22:37] They were that way for their position to be able to do that.

[22:40] Okay, I was just a little bit concerned about this for a little bit of not curbside.

[22:46] Yeah.

[22:46] Hold on.

[22:47] We got care.

[22:47] Mayor Pro Tem and then Councilmember Kennedy.

[22:50] Mark the anticipate any major.

[22:53] If we extend the agreement, any major changes to any of the.

[23:03] Increases or possible increases or different parts of the contract that they've used over the past.

[23:10] contracts?

[23:15] I would say that it would be our intent, ours meaning staffs to go back and open a discussion for some amended language in certain sections of the contract to address those things.

[23:34] exactly what, and which sections, and what those recommendations would be, we'd have to sit down and do some additional analysis, but that would be our expectation.

[23:48] Councillor for Kennedy.

[23:50] Thank you.

[23:51] Why would this not be open for a competitive bid?

[23:56] Well, there's no reason why it can't be.

[23:59] We have an option inside of the contract to extend it in six year intervals and unlimited number of those.

[24:08] Right. I understand that.

[24:10] And so there's no reason why it can't be competitively bid.

[24:16] But that's not staff recommendation at this point.

[24:22] That's when we're done.

[24:24] Great dating here, Mark, regarding the significant, I'd say,

[24:28] more than I could performance in the current contract.

[24:30] that I support the removal.

[24:33] That's remember it's Spencer.

[24:34] Thanks, Mayor.

[24:36] So I guess I have a couple of questions.

[24:39] So the first one is kind of piggybacking

[24:41] on Council Member Kirsis question regarding the event.

[24:45] Did you say in the presentation that we're all essentially

[24:48] paying for that event and were ties out throughout the year

[24:52] essentially?

[24:53] Well, we're getting, so the bulky service

[24:56] is being conducted by way of an annual event.

[25:00] So in some way, it's built into the rate, sure.

[25:03] But it's not a direct charge, whereas, say, for example,

[25:09] in Spoken Valley, if you were to put something out on the curb,

[25:12] they would pick it up.

[25:13] But as an example, if it was a refrigerator,

[25:15] they would charge you $41.

[25:18] And so whatever the rate schedule is determined on that item,

[25:23] whatever it is, they would charge you for that at the curb

[25:25] on the almost at a point of sale basis each time you did it.

[25:31] So essentially, if we were to remove the event and either revert to something similar or

[25:39] or just have residents take the refrigerator down to the,

[25:45] yeah, I'm not sure what it's called, but it's the transportation.

[25:49] I'm just curious how that would affect the rates.

[25:51] that would have to be, we would have to enter into a discussion to determine that, but

[25:58] and just to clarify, and I don't think that this is what you meant, but residents can

[26:03] do that now. They can take things to the, yeah, okay. But the answer is, it would have

[26:10] some impact, what exactly that number would be, I'm not sure.

[26:16] And I just want to follow up question, because as the rates started going up, and I actually made a call to a waste management to kind of get some clarification. Sorry, I'd already had an idea of what was going on here.

[26:30] Do we have any idea as to because the explanation I was given was essentially that the recycling wasn't selling for as much as it had in the past essentially is that is that appear to be a trend going forward?

[26:45] It's hard to say, if you look at the past history going back to 2015, the trend is that the credit was applied.

[26:54] There was a variation in what the number was, but it was always a credit between 2015 and in 2023.

[27:02] I think nationally, the trend is right now, at least for the foreseeable couple of years, is that commodity rates on recycling are going to continue to fall.

[27:13] how long that lasts? I don't know that anyone knows.

[27:18] There are, you know, this, like, many other things

[27:20] when you're dealing with world markets have so many variables

[27:23] that it's hard to put your finger on one of them

[27:27] and say, that's the cause and we need to look at that.

[27:30] But I would think that over the next couple of years,

[27:34] at least, we would see a continued downward trend

[27:39] in the commodity market, which would spell an upward trend in our commodity credit, similar

[27:49] to what you see in 2024.

[27:54] Right.

[27:54] It counts miracle.

[27:56] I, since I moved a liberty lake, I've been troubled with the fact that compost is extra,

[28:04] you know, and see you have to have that extra can, when I lived in Seattle, it was included.

[28:10] And I think it should be and I don't know if there's any way that it happened, but I just think it's not a lot of money for, you know, a service that could be provided.

[28:23] I also would like to say that and I've had some neighbors say the same thing to me.

[28:29] It seems like in the last year they're getting more careless with, you know, the little arms pick up your cannon.

[28:35] and have a time it's not empty.

[28:38] And I just think they need to be more mindful.

[28:41] Maybe get out of the truck every now and then and check

[28:44] and not drop them and leave the lid open.

[28:46] Sure, especially when the wind's blowing.

[28:49] So.

[28:49] And those are, like I said, those are what I would consider

[28:52] to be customer service issues that to reiterate the point

[28:57] from earlier, haven't risen to the level

[28:59] or have been frequent enough that they've come here.

[29:02] But I think to address that, we can invite WM to come back at a future council meeting and to

[29:09] delve deeper into kind of some customer service issues that may be out there and what their strategies are for not only

[29:16] addressing them now, but going into the future, that would be something that is an option.

[29:22] If you wanted to hear more of that information from the service provider, we can absolutely do that.

[29:27] Yeah, I would. I just think we're getting a little bit sloppy.

[29:29] but Evan, if you can go back, just a quick note that that's, I appreciate the

[29:35] comments. It's not really our topic tonight, so we can stay on topic and then we'll get to

[29:40] you Councilman McCurts. And go ahead and fire away and I'll go back and mine was a little bit

[29:46] related to Linda's because of something else, but I think that would be a good like a town hall

[29:50] topic. I mean if we're interested in residents' input on whether we should continue with this

[29:55] contract, maybe that would be something that we do and advertise a little bit more heavily as

[29:59] One

[30:00] Residents, if they haven't input in their garbage service to do something like that.

[30:07] But then my other question was a little bit about the composting piece too.

[30:12] As an educational piece, I think that in other cities you have access to the compost when it is composted.

[30:19] And if we, I would love to learn a little bit more about if that's an option for those of us that use the waste bins, the green bins.

[30:27] Sure. Maybe a little bit more information on some of the services that are available as a consumer.

[30:34] Well, and I would say as kind of a corollary to that, there are provisions in the current contract regarding education.

[30:43] And we would expect, I think, for those to be beefed up a little bit going forward if we renew.

[30:48] Even if you can go back to the comparison of the rates, I wanted to point something out at a high level here.

[30:56] Next one.

[30:59] Councillor Bole, if you see there on the spoken valley, they're the only one that has at least in this example.

[31:06] The recycled service is wrapped into the garbage fee.

[31:12] And so, yes, that would be possible to do, but as you can see there, that it has an impact on the rate, right,

[31:20] on at least on that portion of the rate. So, that would be something that we could discuss,

[31:27] absolutely good.

[31:28] If I may though, I think you were asking about the comp, the yard waste, the type of stuff, right?

[31:32] Right.

[31:33] And so it would be similar because we have, we have a charge there of,

[31:40] 1417 that is obviously part of the 5634.

[31:44] Then again, not everybody does that.

[31:46] Correct.

[31:47] We bag our way.

[31:49] We mulch our one, another good thing to discuss.

[31:54] Hey, I think I've got, I got councilmember, mayor for 10 first, then back to councilmember Kennedy.

[32:01] Thanks, mayor.

[32:02] Mark, quick question.

[32:03] I think it's worth pointing out the challenges that we, we made

[32:08] experience if we decide to switch companies or switch providers, not necessarily as a city,

[32:17] but the residents of the city. And what that would all entail, I mean, I'm envisioning some

[32:26] scenario where, you know, sometime in October, everybody in the city has to put their empty bins

[32:32] out for waste management to come get them and then the new company would have to come in and

[32:37] distribute all new bends and and so I maybe this is not a question but rather a comment about how, at least to me, it's worth something or citizens to be able to just continue the process their familiar with the process that they know, the bins that they have and not have to worry about a change in a provider or maybe I'm not thinking about it the right way.

[33:03] please correct me if I'm not there is definitely non-monotory cost in any transition and so that would

[33:10] be something certainly that would it would be there. It's hard to quantify what that would be

[33:15] at a unit level but there's certainly going to be some transition area cost.

[33:22] I've got Mayor Kasparimer Kennedy's next. Thank you, Mayor.

[33:26] Question, extra garbage 472. I assume that's in there and the event if somebody has more that's

[33:33] We're flowing.

[33:34] You can, yes, you can have an extra container of certain sizes.

[33:40] And again, these are, we've picked five rates out

[33:45] of the entire rate schedule to kind of give an example.

[33:49] And this is one of them.

[33:50] But yes, that's the principle, as you would pay,

[33:53] this marginal cost for an extra container of some kind.

[33:58] Okay, then I'll kind of follow a comment that Garbage is one of the things that I love not having to worry about.

[34:06] I mean, everybody I take the can out, necessarily it disappears.

[34:12] I'm happy camper.

[34:14] The truck shows up of our granddaughters around.

[34:16] They wave at her.

[34:17] She gets a big thrill out of it and I get a big thrill of that also.

[34:21] But I do believe we have producer responsibility that if we're going to take any service.

[34:26] for our citizens that can if there's other options that we look at competitive bits. We

[34:33] consider that. I certainly agree with Mayor Protam Cargill's comment that the transition

[34:38] period can be a pain and inconvenience, but setting that aside our responsibilities to the citizens

[34:47] that we work for and the best contracts we can get for the service.

[34:54] All right, do we have anybody else?

[34:56] Well, let's move on.

[34:58] All right.

[35:01] So we're moving to next item.

[35:03] Looks like it.

[35:06] So next up is the legislative agenda.

[35:09] What do you think about it?

[35:10] So what you see in front of you,

[35:12] you have a printout of the 2024 legislative agenda that you adopted back.

[35:20] Sometimes late last year.

[35:21] And the reason that I wanted to have a brief conversation with you all about this today is because on May the 16th,

[35:34] AWC is going to kick off its 2025 state legislative priorities process.

[35:40] And I am fortunate enough to be a member on that committee this year, and so I wanted to take this opportunity to just kind of query council to find out if there are any high profile items that you want me to take into that process.

[35:57] This is not drafting our 2025 legislative priorities right now.

[36:03] It's a starting point for that, but this is more designed to hear from you as whether there are any high value targets that you want me to kind of promote through that process.

[36:16] And then I've got a follow-up question for you, but I'll let you address that one first.

[36:20] There are some discussion about that one first.

[36:26] I think I'm not ready to give you any ideas, just yet, like I feel like we just got done with the last one and I, so so I might need to wrap my brain around like give it a little bit of thought like you're saying, and this is just the starting point, but.

[36:39] Yeah, and to that point there are may 16th is the kickoff, but there are meetings through next September, and so there will be other opportunities.

[36:50] But I wanted to give you all the first kind of crack at it before the initial meeting.

[36:55] Oh, Mayor for Tim had a stand up.

[36:58] Thanks, Mayor. Just a real quick mark. First, I've been kind of disappointed in the past with with AWC and the direction they've headed in.

[37:08] that it's that has seemed more concerned about cities on the west side and the larger cities

[37:15] than then necessarily what we as smaller cities need or what our desires are. That having been said,

[37:22] I think one of the most important issues that we face is an issue that not a lot of other cities

[37:29] are size-faced and that is the cross border issue. The fact that we have a completely different

[37:35] business environment, that is less than a mile away from our city limits, that I think unfortunately,

[37:43] a lot of folks at AWC and some of the other larger cities, especially on the on the west side,

[37:48] don't recognize. I mean, you can you can raise attacks or you can raise a fee or you can add a new

[37:54] regulation and done in the bubble of of Puala, or Tacoma, or Seattle, or Everett, or wherever,

[38:02] folks necessarily have other options. You do it over here and you have the potential of folks

[38:09] just going across state lines and getting a completely different business climate. So to the

[38:14] extent that we could perhaps partner in the future with cities like Pullman and Vancouver and

[38:20] other border communities that face that same exact situation where they are not necessarily

[38:26] competing against the west side but competing against a completely different climate in

[38:31] and other state, I think that would be helpful.

[38:35] Mark and I have already been talking about that.

[38:37] I mentioned that I think several meetings ago.

[38:40] And so I've already had some discussions with our local reps and senators.

[38:45] Obviously, we've got some elections coming up.

[38:47] But we do have support here.

[38:50] So I've got a task to get with Tate on for her to start pulling some of those cities

[38:55] on that are on major state routes, interstates,

[38:58] and getting some contact names so we can start to start hitting up at least the councils and

[39:04] mares from those locations to then have get them engaged with their reps as well. So obviously

[39:09] any experience that you have that we can tap into, which I know is a lot greatly appreciative.

[39:17] We are starting to go down that path and at least for the people I've talked to on this side,

[39:22] of course, you know, there's the other side. They're all for trying to take it forward

[39:31] Any other questions for any other comments for Mark with regards to 25?

[39:37] Obviously we can bring this back for follow-up a little bit later.

[39:42] Yeah, and again, this is not setting the city's legislative priority for 2025 right now.

[39:49] We'll have plenty of opportunity to do that going forward.

[39:52] Yes, Madam Ball had a comment.

[39:54] Yeah, on here is this land purchasing construction of an Army National Guard Readiness Center.

[39:58] I thought that was a dead soldier, no.

[40:03] That was what?

[40:03] Well, I thought it was the airport was getting it.

[40:07] No, I can go through the history.

[40:09] I don't know.

[40:11] It's the Army National Guard would like to land swap property

[40:15] from the airport with DNR property here.

[40:18] Remember, you like to put it here.

[40:19] But there's a huge disparity in the values of this property.

[40:22] Right. Right.

[40:22] And neither of us problem.

[40:27] Okay.

[40:27] Okay, second question on this, if you look on the 2024 legislative priorities handout down about midway through, there is a priority that we adopted that says reforming Washington's low carbon fuel standard and carbon tax.

[40:51] And so my question at this point is given that there is an initiative on the ballot in November.

[41:03] Does Council have any preference on drafting a resolution supporting or opposing any of those three initiatives,

[41:12] specifically the one that is called out by our legislative priority.

[41:16] And the reason I bring this up is because

[41:18] The PDC has some pretty specific rules on what individual council members can do or shouldn't do if there is no resolution passed.

[41:29] And those are essentially that individual council members can speak for the body if a resolution has been adopted by the council on a ballot measure.

[41:40] And so I'm just putting that question out again.

[41:42] It doesn't have to be answered tonight.

[41:45] We have time prior to the November election for that to occur.

[41:49] If council so chooses, but I wanted to put the question in front of you, in case you had any questions or wanted to discuss.

[41:57] Let's see anybody here.

[41:58] Council member Kurtz, I think if that's something that we're going to consider, I would like to have.

[42:04] I feel like when we had a resolution earlier this year that was specific to something that was going on about it.

[42:11] We didn't have both perspectives, we had one side, and so if we're going to consider doing a resolution, I would want to hear from both the pros and the cons, to be able to have a balanced discussion, balanced information in order to make a non-partisan decision.

[42:28] Absolutely, and that's required as part of the resolution process that you would whatever side you're taking, you would allow equal time for the opposing side.

[42:39] Mayor Pertem had a stand up.

[42:43] I'm good. Thank you.

[42:45] Okay.

[42:46] All right. Anybody else? Councilmember Dunn.

[42:49] I would prefer not to have resolutions voicing opinions regarding the city.

[42:53] Follow the ballot initiatives.

[42:55] Yeah.

[43:02] Bring it back.

[43:04] Absolutely.

[43:05] I just wanted to.

[43:05] We had Mayor.

[43:06] Mayor Pertem's hands back up.

[43:08] Sorry.

[43:09] I changed my mind.

[43:09] Mark.

[43:10] That's okay.

[43:12] Just a quick follow-up.

[43:14] you know, we have taken positions on ballot measures.

[43:17] That's not something we haven't done.

[43:20] We did one on the jail one earlier this year.

[43:25] Was it this year or late last year?

[43:27] Last year?

[43:28] Late 23.

[43:29] So I mean, it's not as if that's something we haven't done.

[43:32] That haven't been said.

[43:34] This is a state issue,

[43:36] and I think the consensus that we had

[43:38] when we put this into the legislative agenda

[43:42] It is not necessarily that it would be repealed, which some of us may personally favor, but that it would be reformed and it would change the impact that it was having specifically on our drivers, again going back to what I was mentioned earlier, the fact that, hey, if you go a mile to the east, you don't have to worry about the climate commitment act.

[44:09] You don't have to worry about the extra 50 to 60 cents per gallon, it's costing you for gas.

[44:16] So I think I understand both sides, but I think it does impact us perhaps a little bit more than other cities in terms of our,

[44:26] what our citizens can do and go across the border and get a completely different price for fuel.

[44:38] Councillor Spencer. Well, and I would just add that not only it affects the citizens, but it affects the businesses here on the side.

[44:47] Great.

[44:49] And I see a potential to bring this back for a little longer workshop and discussion at that point.

[44:56] I mean, we can have somebody, you know, at before the resolution.

[45:16] So, we'll put that on our future workshop. It'll be time sensitive at some point.

[45:24] Yes. Thank you. All right. So I think that's it. We're going to go ahead and take a break. It's 640 by defending. Oh my computer matches my phone this week 645 we will resume at 7 p.m. Thanks.

[45:48] Okay. Welcome everybody to our Tuesday May 7th city council meeting and healthier in city hall. We also have remote component by zoom. We are going to start off with the invocation followed by the pledge of allegiance. If you please join me.

[46:05] Your father. Thank you for bringing us together today.

[46:08] to handle the city's business, the best of our abilities using our input from our citizens who are very wise in forming the direction where we take this city.

[46:24] Please be with our first responders as always. There's so many things going on right now. We're just so thankful for all of them.

[46:32] Please watch over this body tonight as we continue to discuss the business and

[46:39] Then you'll come to consensus on anything that we are discussing tonight in the

[47:00] Okay, we'll go ahead and call the meeting to order.

[47:03] We will start off with a roll call.

[47:05] Council member Kurtz, President.

[47:07] Council member Ball, Mayor Proteem Cargill.

[47:10] President.

[47:11] Council member Spencer.

[47:13] President.

[47:14] Council member Dunn.

[47:15] Happy to be here.

[47:16] Council member Kennedy.

[47:18] All right.

[47:18] And Council member Van Orman has requested to be excused for some family things, so if we could

[47:23] have a motion in a second to excuse Council member Van Orman, I'll make the motion

[47:29] to excuse. I'm going to. Right, we have a motion by Council Member Ball and the second

[47:34] by Council Member Kennedy on favor of excusing Council Member Van Orman, please say aye.

[47:39] Aye. Any opposed? All right, motion passes. All right, we will go on to agenda approval.

[47:45] Mayor for a 10. Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve the agenda as printed.

[47:50] Right, we have a second. Second. Second. Second by Council Member Kurds. All in favor, please say aye.

[47:56] Aye. Any opposed?

[47:59] All right. Motion passes the V60. All right. We are up to citizen comments. So for those of you in chambers, we have in yellow half sheets by the door and something fill one out if you'd like to make a comment. Any any topic, limit of three minutes and some of the next change will take your comment. And if we need to follow up, we will definitely do that. Make sure we have your contact information on here. And for anybody online, please send a note to our meeting host.

[48:28] in the chat feature and when we're done here in person, we will go to anybody online who has

[48:33] who has a comment. Again, the three minute limit and the clock will be posted on here. So we will

[48:38] start off with Thomas McLaughlin. Welcome back.

[48:43] It's been a couple of years since I've been to the

[48:46] last meeting here. A couple of years ago, I made a suggestion that we put on the stop lights at

[48:54] in time clock and the council actually took my suggestion. So I'm here to have some other suggestions to tonight.

[49:05] I have one first of all, I want to congratulate what Liberty Lake has done with the trailhead golf course.

[49:13] And it's I drive by every day and it's the architect's design.

[49:19] everybody did a great job on that, and I just want to express my opinion. I lived down

[49:24] at Alpine shores. So I see that. I drive downtown Spokane and I see the graffiti now. You

[49:32] see the gray on the freeway walls. You seek graffiti all over the town. My concern is also on Spragan

[49:41] and Spray in Liberty Lake Road,

[49:46] there's a camera there with both solar cameras.

[49:50] And you have one up to the billion.

[49:52] My suggestion is that we might want to consider putting

[49:55] some solar cameras on these new bridges.

[49:59] I'd hate to see, after you spend three, four, five million dollars,

[50:03] even on that bike bridge.

[50:05] I'd hate to see people getting away with the crime.

[50:10] And if you can, and somebody's watching, obviously, there's somebody watching them's cameras.

[50:16] That's one suggestion I'd like to present is to consider that.

[50:20] And also, down at the intersection of the ridge line, there's, you have the street light,

[50:24] but then there's another exit inference to the ridge line high school.

[50:28] That might be another good spot because it looks like an accident waiting to happen right there.

[50:33] So that's something to think about.

[50:40] Yeah, I would think with the solar cameras, you probably have to have about four on each bridge.

[50:46] And somebody could figure it out, but at least catch it.

[50:49] And if you catch somebody, I believe in law and order.

[50:55] A lot of times there's no bell, no jail.

[50:58] What's happening now, but I'd say if somebody gets caught,

[51:01] make them do the community service, make them clean up the graffiti.

[51:06] That's my ideal.

[51:08] And that includes Spokane, too.

[51:11] And the schools, one other point is the street lights down by

[51:16] Ridgeline High School.

[51:17] During the winter time, those kids are after school.

[51:20] They're coming out at 4 o'clock.

[51:23] It's dark.

[51:25] I might want to put some street lights down Ridgeline.

[51:28] Obviously, that area is going to be developed.

[51:30] Put the grass in, put some trees all the way to the

[51:35] down there by the tennis courts.

[51:36] So that's my suggestion and it all cost money.

[51:41] Thanks for coming.

[51:42] Would you do me a favor?

[51:43] I'm sure I have your business card somewhere.

[51:44] Can you put your number or you're on your for me?

[51:47] I'd love to follow up with you.

[51:49] I want a couple of things.

[51:51] Appreciate it.

[51:52] You can just give me to Kelsey.

[51:53] I'm in there.

[51:54] Yep.

[51:57] Appreciate it.

[51:58] All right.

[51:58] Do we have anybody else in chambers who would like to make a citizen comment?

[52:03] Not hearing anything.

[52:04] Is there anybody online?

[52:05] There is okay.

[52:08] So council member, former council member Tom Solberg.

[52:12] Like he has his hand up.

[52:14] So welcome.

[52:15] I'm not sure can you see me in here.

[52:17] Make I can hear you.

[52:20] Thanks very much.

[52:22] Tom Solberg would be late.

[52:24] Remember district.

[52:26] I thought it was an excellent discussion tonight.

[52:29] Thank you all for your thoughtful questions with regard to the solid waste contract.

[52:35] I had some personal experience with waste management, and I would keep this brief where I tried to contact them locally to ask what had happened to the recycling fees that Council Member Cargill had had noticed that had been raised and I could not get a hold of anybody locally anymore whereas before I used to be able to.

[52:56] So I ended up going to the 1-800 number

[53:00] and had several contacts with them and found out

[53:03] that the reason for the pricing freeze that was given to me,

[53:06] I'm not sure that that's what they told staff here,

[53:09] was that a waste management lost their contract

[53:12] for the recycling.

[53:14] And so as a result of that,

[53:16] they charged all of us an additional almost 35%.

[53:21] Long story short, what I decided to do

[53:23] after going around and around with him,

[53:27] was went to one of our local hardware stores

[53:30] and spent about one month's rate to have my own containers.

[53:36] And I've been doing my own recycling.

[53:39] I go to Sunshine, Disposal, and I've done the whole thing.

[53:46] I just want to mention a couple of things

[53:51] for those of us that are on a fixed income.

[53:53] it is approximately for me and I had the least amount that you can possibly have of garbage and then

[53:59] supposedly recycling, but you know that didn't include a glass and it was costing me this next year

[54:05] about $45 a month, which is significant. It was a significant increase for me as I'm trying to

[54:13] keep my prices down and maybe that's the same for other seniors or those who are at least retired on

[54:19] Council Member Kurtz suggested that perhaps a town hall to discuss this would be in order.

[54:26] I certainly would hope that something like that would happen.

[54:29] Council Member Kennedy asked the question that I'm asking is why wouldn't we put this out to competitive bit?

[54:36] I think it has to be put out.

[54:39] I know waste management does a good job and I heard Council Member Dunn, I think you've had contact with them in the past.

[54:46] I just think that we need to have more of a discussion as to how this is better serving our community and some of Linda's concerns were also about the drivers and litter.

[55:02] So if there would be an opportunity to continue the discussion and perhaps have more citizens in the input and certainly a competitive bid so that you can see the exact prices and maybe there'd be some better service.

[55:13] I think it might be worthwhile.

[55:16] Thank you all for your time.

[55:17] Thanks for your comment.

[55:18] I'll see if might be Mark and follow up with you on the increases you mentioned.

[55:27] Okay.

[55:27] No more about that.

[55:28] Thank you.

[55:29] Okay.

[55:30] Is there anybody else online?

[55:31] No.

[55:32] Okay.

[55:32] So I guess that does it for citizen comments at this time.

[55:35] There will be a chance later on in the meeting.

[55:38] So we'll move on to our announcements,

[55:40] proclamations and special presentations we'll start off with the proclamation for wildfire awareness month

[55:46] and we do have several members of the fire department here for that resolution so we will

[55:51] it'll be red and we'll take a vote from the council and then we'll sign it and then I'll

[55:57] we'll take a chance to I know you guys I know you guys I know you guys hey I know you

[56:03] We came in visit. Yeah, you too.

[56:06] So we'll do a photo with the Proclamation with you guys.

[56:09] Kelsey, you're up.

[56:11] We're as wildfire seasons have become longer and more destructive,

[56:14] which threatens communities throughout Washington.

[56:17] And we're as individuals and communities work together to build solutions

[56:21] to coexist with wildfire.

[56:23] And we're as communities across Washington are creating pathways

[56:26] to adapt to prepare and recover from wildfire.

[56:29] And we're as individuals are encouraged to help reduce the risk of

[56:34] wildfire while recreating outdoors and whereas when we come together as neighbors we can reduce

[56:40] the risk while fire poses to our properties homes and communities and whereas we all share

[56:45] the responsibility of preventing wildland with fires while building community resilience.

[56:51] All right so at this time I would entertain a motion from the council to approve this

[56:57] We have a motion moved to support approved.

[57:01] Thank you to the second. Second.

[57:03] Okay, we have a motion by Councilmember Dunn.

[57:05] The second by Councilmember Ball, all those in favor of supporting our wild fire

[57:10] Proclamation.

[57:11] Please say aye.

[57:12] Any opposed?

[57:14] Hey, motion passes 60.

[57:16] Therefore, be it resolved that May 2024 be designated as wildfire awareness month throughout

[57:23] the city and I urge all the people of Liberty Lake to join in the special observance day to the

[57:28] seventh day of May 2024.

[59:42] All right, thanks everybody for that. We will go on now. We have a presentation from

[59:53] Thank you, Mayor Comuscus. Members of the Council. I am a proud resident of Liberty Lake, Susan.

[1:00:00] Higher CEO at Spokane Transit. We're here to give you an update tonight, and I'm sorry, and Administrator McFoy. We're here to give you an update tonight on a number of things, including the finishing of our 10 years strategic plan called ST moving forward.

[1:00:17] and the creation of the next 10-year plan called Connect 2035.

[1:00:24] Carl Augusterum is with me. Carl is the Chief Planning and Development Officer at Spokane

[1:00:29] Transit, and we have been to see you together probably 10 years or so, maybe 15.

[1:00:38] I wanted to recognize Council Member Dunn, who is the representative of the small cities,

[1:00:43] the five small cities. So Liberty Lake is in possession of the voting seat on the STA board.

[1:00:51] This is the second year and we are very grateful for his leadership and participation,

[1:00:58] even calling into a meeting that went until 1230 his time on vacation. That was dedication. Thank

[1:01:07] you to my Kennedy Council member Kennedy, who formerly served on the STA board and council member

[1:01:13] of Ann Orman who served as the chair of the STA board.

[1:01:16] So our relationship with the Liberty Lake City Council is long and rich and we are greatly appreciative

[1:01:23] of your support.

[1:01:24] Carl's going to tell you that we are Liberty Lake's transit agency and we think of it that way.

[1:01:31] Especially since I live here, I'm not saying Liberty Lake is extra service or attention

[1:01:36] because I live here but I'm not saying that you don't.

[1:01:39] So I'm going to introduce Carl Otterstrom and please ask questions and

[1:01:44] uh, he can probably answer all of them, but I will also be available to answer them.

[1:01:49] We remind us how much time we have.

[1:01:52] Because we would take a long long time if we were.

[1:01:56] Right.

[1:01:56] Without fans.

[1:01:58] Shoot for 15.

[1:02:00] Shoot for 15.

[1:02:01] Yes.

[1:02:01] Okay. Now you have 10 because I have used five.

[1:02:04] Thank you Carl Otterstrom.

[1:02:05] The gauntlet's been thrown down Carl.

[1:02:08] Thank you Susan.

[1:02:09] Thank you Mayor.

[1:02:10] Commencement.

[1:02:10] The members of the city council.

[1:02:13] If we go to the next slide.

[1:02:15] The Susan said we're spoken.

[1:02:17] I'm spoken in transit as liberty likes transit system.

[1:02:20] We actually have four routes in the city.

[1:02:23] And that's an increase as we have added service across the county.

[1:02:27] So route 74 is the way I got here tonight.

[1:02:30] That is runs on the freeway and then also runs on the north side of your

[1:02:34] Fair City Route 98's likely my trip home tonight from seven days a week into the night and then we have two

[1:02:41] Express routes one 172 which is oriented around commuters heading to Spokane in the 724 which is oriented to two commuters heading to jobs in the city of Liberty Lake.

[1:02:52] We're planning to upgrade Route 74 to run nights a weekend next year and to eventually become the rough 7 which will be a one shot route through Spokane Valley at the Valley Mall area

[1:03:04] on the freeway downtown Spokane, then out to the airports, all on the single routes.

[1:03:09] So Route 7 is in our sites to add next year.

[1:03:15] So lots of exciting things.

[1:03:16] I want to tell you about our RST and moving forward plan, next slide.

[1:03:20] Susan mentioned we're in the throws of finishing this plan.

[1:03:24] 27 different projects across the county that provide more better transit service.

[1:03:30] Many of these, if it had liners like the city line,

[1:03:33] which now serves over 24 or 2500 riders a day.

[1:03:37] Another things are smaller, puts and takes everywhere around the system, including later Saturday night service.

[1:03:45] And at this point, we've completed 17 of the projects.

[1:03:48] We have two that are recognized as completed partly,

[1:03:53] and then six underway, and then there's two more yet to be completed.

[1:03:56] One of those last two projects is a pilot project in partnership with

[1:04:02] to the county to extend service to Coralaine and Post Falls.

[1:04:06] And so that's subject to a partnership there.

[1:04:09] Next slide.

[1:04:11] We are actually proposing to amend that ST moving forward plan

[1:04:15] in those 27 projects.

[1:04:17] And we've amended it before.

[1:04:19] The plan was originally adopted in December of 2014.

[1:04:22] And was the basis of an original 2015 April 2015

[1:04:26] ballot measure that failed by 272 votes.

[1:04:29] the STA board work through updating financial forecasts,

[1:04:34] really aligning the plan in terms of the sequencing of projects,

[1:04:38] and ultimately presented a new ballot measure that was approved by voters

[1:04:43] in all the cities across the county within our service area,

[1:04:47] approved it with the majority in favor.

[1:04:51] And in this case, so as amended back then in 2016,

[1:04:54] We also amended it in 2020 with COVID and it's impacts on the delay of projects and what we're proposing to do is in this amendment is recognize work completed and also based on work.

[1:05:09] We had a consulted look at our network and assess our success, our things we needed to improve and also that included things that we plan to do.

[1:05:20] So two of those adjustments in this proposed amendment actually a fact library lake next slide.

[1:05:28] So the first one relates to library lake to Spokane Peak Hour Service.

[1:05:32] So the Route 172 is a nonstop route between Spokane and Liberty Lake.

[1:05:37] So that was re-instituted.

[1:05:39] There used to be an express service set was discontinued in 2011.

[1:05:44] This 172 was a new service added in 2017.

[1:05:47] In our plans, we had recognized it as a first phase of that express service.

[1:05:54] We added a back, but we had plans to increase the frequency to every 15 minutes in the future.

[1:06:00] Where we are now, commute trips downtown have changed dramatically.

[1:06:05] There are not as many office workers coming down town 75 days a week into the office.

[1:06:10] And so that market has changed for us.

[1:06:15] And a result our consultant has recommended

[1:06:17] that we consider what we've already achieved

[1:06:21] as the completion of that point.

[1:06:23] That is, it does meet the need.

[1:06:26] We did do the express service to Spokane from Liberty League.

[1:06:31] It doesn't get off the freeway of Mirror Brewing anywhere else.

[1:06:34] And so we have achieved that next slide.

[1:06:37] And it says exactly what I said here.

[1:06:39] Again, with that bold text at the bottom, recognize what we've already accomplished as satisfying that objective in the planning.

[1:06:49] The next project, next slide, please, is the Liberty Lake Park and Rye.

[1:06:54] So originally it was called the Liber Lake Park and Rye relocation.

[1:06:58] And that first part of the top of the page in 2016, it was described as relocated in expand the Liber Lake Park and Rye providing over 300 parking stalls for commuters.

[1:07:07] We had developed some renderings and just very early concepts that depicted it and being a very large park and ride.

[1:07:18] And in this case, we actually assumed we would pursue a partnership with the Department of Natural Resources and their property to stop the mission avenue on the north side of the freeway and next slide.

[1:07:29] DNR was an interested in that, they had other plans for that, and we also, over time, concluded

[1:07:36] that it was a best interest to retain the existing liberty-like park and riding rather than

[1:07:39] having complete replacement. And so, in 2020, as part of that amendment during COVID, we redefined

[1:07:48] that project slightly to expand commuter parking capacity, east of Sullivan Road. So, so we're

[1:07:53] the barker to stay in line roughly.

[1:07:56] As part of our overall investment in the 1990 valley,

[1:08:00] this corridor, which ultimately is a vision

[1:08:02] to extract from Portland, mainly liberty-like to the airport.

[1:08:08] And in this case, we, in 2022,

[1:08:12] we actually worked to develop and something

[1:08:15] we collaborated and coordinated.

[1:08:17] And I believe the last time I came in to present,

[1:08:19] I did brief on this, a future out-of-way station parking ride.

[1:08:26] So a parking ride inside the city of Libri Lake that's on the south side,

[1:08:31] basically near the high school.

[1:08:33] The next slide depicts the site locations of very specific here.

[1:08:38] We actually began conversations with the property owner,

[1:08:42] because ultimately we're going to make sure we follow federal processes and it's going to take a while to

[1:08:47] I acquire the site, but this particular location, just for context, the new high school is just

[1:08:55] to the southeast. You have the interchange accessing the freeway heading to in front of

[1:09:02] the lane and Idaho. There's also the county on high capacity to transit right away is on the

[1:09:10] south side of country vista, or our upper way at that point, and then continues and parallels

[1:09:15] on 92 to the north of country vista, and so we believe this is a strategic location. However, back

[1:09:22] to my earlier premise on park and ride demand has not come back the same way at this point,

[1:09:28] was still growing gradually relative to the rest of our system. Our ridership overall is up

[1:09:33] over 33% this year. Last year, over 2022, and we're over last year's ridership

[1:09:39] here going into the first few months, and we expect that trend to continue. But again, that this

[1:09:45] particular slice those who are parking to take transit generally because they're not going to the office as much.

[1:09:52] They're often finding it more convenient to drive and not creating that transit habit just yet.

[1:09:58] And so what we're proposing to quote a next slide is to reconfigure this particular project.

[1:10:05] So this considerations really, this is a strategic location in our, in our view from a transportation standpoint.

[1:10:12] And as well, suited to support the growth of Liberty Lake in the south west quadrant of the city, as well as to provide long-term provide connectivity across the region.

[1:10:27] But, as we think about something to deliver in the next few years, that demand is not there yet.

[1:10:33] But from a strategic standpoint, we believe it's still in our best interest.

[1:10:37] communities best answers to acquire a site for future chance of facility and so

[1:10:41] we're recommending to our board is to amend the S.C. moving forward plan to this particular

[1:10:47] project to read a choir property for future Apple East station parking right so be

[1:10:53] focused on the acquisition, the preservation of that that opportunity rather than delivering a

[1:10:58] project that frankly this point would probably be less utilized than we would prefer.

[1:11:04] So those are the two amendments that we're pursuing with our board.

[1:11:09] And I have just a couple more minutes.

[1:11:14] Any questions or concerns about this?

[1:11:16] We have a public hearing with our board this week.

[1:11:19] This this month at their regular board meeting.

[1:11:22] And then we'll be seeking through the Planning Development Committee, which Council Member Don is on,

[1:11:28] for them to pass out make a motion for approval of a resolution adopting these amendments.

[1:11:35] Okay, same many of any questions for Carl Luzon.

[1:11:39] I have got a couple questions.

[1:11:42] So if you acquired that property, would it replace the one that's just right around the corner here?

[1:11:47] No, so it didn't move away from the idea of replacement, especially given they're in very different parts of town.

[1:11:55] And this location nearby has the benefit of being a kind of end of line for the routes.

[1:12:04] So at this point, we don't need a plan to dispose of this currently facility.

[1:12:10] Yeah, yeah, more central.

[1:12:12] Another question I had you you had mentioned that riderships up 33% is that's across the system.

[1:12:18] How does that pertain? Is it equally utilized out here or is it up or down for Liberty Lake?

[1:12:25] I didn't bring any statistics that are specific to each city.

[1:12:30] So I'll get back to pass that along.

[1:12:32] Sure.

[1:12:32] Well, we actually do have a report coming up that will be more important.

[1:12:38] I can convey that information by bus stop and we can bring that up to the city level.

[1:12:43] And then just my final question,

[1:12:45] ridership is up overall.

[1:12:47] How close are you to capacity on the bus that's going in and out?

[1:12:53] Yeah.

[1:12:53] Around town.

[1:12:54] You know, capacity buses only have 30 to 40 seats.

[1:12:58] And so sometimes they're very full

[1:12:59] and they come back the next trip it's empty for close to empty.

[1:13:03] And so there's always more capacity at different times

[1:13:07] during the peak period.

[1:13:10] We're back to seeing over loads

[1:13:11] and having complaints about overloads on buses

[1:13:13] at particular times in particular parts of the system.

[1:13:16] So I don't have a straight answer on that.

[1:13:19] But we have more service than we had pre-pandemic.

[1:13:23] So there is more capacity to consume in general.

[1:13:27] But a lot of what we've added is nights and weekends

[1:13:32] in terms of frequency and span of service.

[1:13:35] And we're seeing ridership on Saturday's Sunday

[1:13:37] is actually above pre-pandemic levels

[1:13:40] and higher than we've ever had as a system, and so we're seeing that kind of broader utilization

[1:13:46] across routes and you know it's on the bus Saturday and it was very full but on the bus on

[1:13:56] weekdays as well and can be standing. I've got Mayor Protem Cargill online.

[1:14:07] Carl getting

[1:14:08] is the free rides that had been offered. I know there was a, and perhaps it's still going on right now

[1:14:15] on the, on the central city line where there were some free rides being offered, especially to

[1:14:19] to teenagers, I believe. So a couple different things going on there. So city line was free for about

[1:14:24] the first nine weeks, and then it's been paid routes since September, first week of September.

[1:14:32] And but youth ages 18 and younger are zero fair. And so that is in partnership with the legislature, which is providing a transit support grant on the condition that we provide youth with ability for zero fair.

[1:14:49] We ask them encourage them and promote using a fair card, but that fair card doesn't bring any more revenue testing directly, but we do the grant on the side.

[1:15:00] I don't have the statistics. Our ridership on those for those youth has grown significantly, compared to pre, whether it's a pre pandemic or pre zero fair for youth.

[1:15:13] I can't tell you that one of the largest markets of that change has been with district dating one, riders, and so with the district we partnered in basically providing pathway for their students to ride the bus in lieu of

[1:15:29] syllabus service so they save money on reducing the cost of

[1:15:33] syllabus service and virtually all with a few exceptions of

[1:15:38] those high school students take STA or something else but

[1:15:42] they don't take the syllabus to school anymore. So there's

[1:15:45] some of those dynamics but I don't have this you know in terms of

[1:15:47] that the growth all are different categories of ridership are up but

[1:15:54] the highest that the the greatest increase has been in terms of

[1:15:58] percentage increase has been in the zero fair for you.

[1:16:03] Anybody else have any questions?

[1:16:04] Council member Boll on that sitting line isn't it free on the weekends because of the

[1:16:09] expo isn't that still happening?

[1:16:10] Yeah, I'm sorry that was my third there was it is free right now and that was a board decision

[1:16:17] made several weeks ago on all routes whether you're in Spokane or out in Liberty Lake

[1:16:22] on Saturdays and Sundays through the end of June.

[1:16:26] Okay. And then secondly, you mentioned an airport, when's that, can you, when is that going to happen?

[1:16:33] Yeah. So route, our plan route seven will, and if that is part of ST moving forward, although

[1:16:41] through the planning process, we expanded the definition to go to the airport, that is scheduled for September

[1:16:47] 2025. Same take, might the departures and arrivals on us? A nice. Okay. I'm looking forward to that.

[1:16:55] I am tired of paying $65 for a new burplus tip.

[1:16:59] That's crazy, so thank you for that.

[1:17:02] $140 one night after it's snowed one way.

[1:17:07] Councillor Wooddon.

[1:17:08] Carl, will mine me a total ridership on the system versus pre-pandling levels.

[1:17:13] Are we nearly the same?

[1:17:14] Yes, some months were at the same or slightly above.

[1:17:18] And right now, over the last few months,

[1:17:20] about 95% of pre-pandemic levels.

[1:17:24] nationwide, our ridership increased last year was double that the nation's

[1:17:30] transit systems on average. So we're we're we're above our peers in the

[1:17:35] state even like the zero fair even though that's being offered in

[1:17:38] process state. We've seen that some most one of the most dramatic

[1:17:42] increases again with that partnership with this to 81 leading wing. I have a couple

[1:17:48] one more slide or two more slide I'll just cut to just to this if we go to the

[1:17:53] Next slide I'll just promote connect 2035 and say that the board is working to develop the next 10 year vision and it is established on goals to elevate the customer experience to collaborate and partner with with you all with the region to improve the quality of life and to strengthen our capacity to serve into the future and be resilient to meet those demands of the region.

[1:18:21] So it's in process.

[1:18:23] You can go to STAConnect2035.com or just go to SpokaneTransit.com

[1:18:28] and find information on that planning exercise.

[1:18:31] But it's, we'll be, we've done a number of outreach activities.

[1:18:35] We'll be doing more as that plan comes together

[1:18:37] through the end of this year.

[1:18:39] Happy to answer any other questions.

[1:18:40] But thank you again for your time today.

[1:18:42] I always appreciate having you here.

[1:18:44] You learn a lot.

[1:18:46] They may have any questions before Carl finishes up.

[1:18:49] Don't see any. Thanks again, you guys appreciate it. Thanks girl. Okay. Moving on, we are up to reports and inquiries. I will start with city council or any city council members who'd like to provide a report council member done.

[1:19:04] Hey, not much argument, but just to refer to STA's commitments to our expose 74 celebrations.

[1:19:10] We've brought number 11, which circles the park is a 50 cent fair 50 years, which is a sense.

[1:19:16] And as Carl stated, all the system on Saturdays and Sundays are free.

[1:19:20] So this is a great opportunity for everybody.

[1:19:22] No excuses to get downtown and participate in a lot of the downtown facilities are going to be.

[1:19:27] personally took in the Vulcan ceremonies event on Saturday, a great opportunity, and a lot of really, I'd say, fun events protect them all to be a part of.

[1:19:36] So it's fun, I encourage everybody to really take some time to consider some of these events that are coming up regarding the exposed celebrations.

[1:19:42] Thank you so much.

[1:19:43] Any other council reports?

[1:19:46] Not seeing any.

[1:19:47] All right, I will jump into my mayor's report.

[1:19:51] Okay, usual plethora of alphabet soup of board meetings.

[1:19:55] I will skip most of that.

[1:19:57] We did have an opportunity to interview City Engineer,

[1:20:00] and we have made an offer.

[1:20:02] And I believe the start date is June 3rd.

[1:20:04] June 3rd.

[1:20:04] That's great.

[1:20:05] So we're very excited about that.

[1:20:08] We also interviewed for,

[1:20:11] so if you guys don't remember Wayne Hammond is retiring later this year.

[1:20:15] He's our chief building inspector and plans examiner.

[1:20:18] So we actually were able to promote do another great promotion from within.

[1:20:25] So Chris McCary, and I can't remember how long Chris has been with us.

[1:20:28] It's been a while, but it was great.

[1:20:31] You know, he interviewed.

[1:20:32] He did a stellar job.

[1:20:33] So he is going to be moving up into Wayne's position.

[1:20:37] And then we have already posted for another replacement.

[1:20:42] So we still have three people in that department.

[1:20:44] Councilmember Dunn.

[1:20:45] Isn't Wayne the longest serving city employee?

[1:20:47] I believe so, yeah, at this point, yep, he's been out for some other things, but October this year's

[1:20:54] been his goal for a long time. So we've been planning the leading up to this. So we're going to

[1:20:59] wish him well, and I love hearing some of his stories over the years. You see, where are we now?

[1:21:04] Arbor, and we had Arbor Day last Friday, and we were able to play at our first evergreen for Arbor Day,

[1:21:11] over by the baseball fields between the elementary schools. That went well. We had a second grade class

[1:21:15] there who helped very, very vigorously help with the shoveling.

[1:21:20] So we avoided any accidents with the golden shovels, and they had a great time.

[1:21:29] Sorry, I'm more, more board meetings, Thursday is the the official ribbon cutting for

[1:21:38] mode with the valley chamber. That's the, the co-working space over in the old HP

[1:21:43] So that's adding.

[1:21:45] I think it's three o'clock on Thursday.

[1:21:47] Check the valley chamber website to just confirm that time.

[1:21:51] I saw Lucas left.

[1:21:53] So that is Thursday.

[1:21:55] We have the AWS small city connectors meeting in medical lake.

[1:21:59] Coming up, we have the interview with the library RFQ responses on Friday.

[1:22:06] So after we have that interview, we'll do the grading process.

[1:22:09] And we'll report back to you guys on where we are.

[1:22:11] to what the next steps are on the library project management project.

[1:22:22] AWS bylaws committee continues to meet.

[1:22:25] I could mention at the last meeting where they're putting off the decisions until next.

[1:22:29] Next year we had a couple of listening sessions scheduled we had one just earlier.

[1:22:35] Last week we had some good inputs from some other mayors and council members across

[1:22:39] Washington with regards to that process.

[1:22:41] we have a couple more coming up and Mark had mentioned that he is on the 2025 state legislative

[1:22:48] priorities right WC. I'm on the federal priorities committee so I'll throw it out that we haven't

[1:22:53] had any meetings yet but I will throw it out there so as you guys are thinking about things for the

[1:22:57] states and legislative priorities think about federal as well. So as our meeting starts to get going I

[1:23:11] for the trailhead deck, and we need to, I don't know if we

[1:23:14] end up date them, Chris on that, but those are being worked on.

[1:23:18] Tate is working on new name tags for all the counts members,

[1:23:21] especially with the farmers market coming up.

[1:23:25] And I wouldn't want to say, oh gosh, I almost forgot it.

[1:23:29] Now I didn't.

[1:23:30] So this is City Clark's Week, I'm getting the side eye.

[1:23:37] We're not going to, I'm not going to make you come up here,

[1:23:38] but we do have a card for you Kelsey.

[1:23:40] it doesn't can't express merely how much we value your contribution and all the work you've

[1:23:46] done since you've taken this office with the upgrades and things that you've been responsible for

[1:23:51] and I just can't name them all but we really really don't appreciate you and in honor of

[1:23:57] City Clark's week we'll get this to you for the meeting. All

[1:24:06] right. Oh and I said any mail to everybody

[1:24:09] there are openings on some A to B C boards and some state boards and commissions so that should

[1:24:14] your email. That is it for me. And so we'll move on to Mark's report.

[1:24:19] All right. Thank you, Mayor. As we look down some of these events,

[1:24:23] as spring has sprung, there's a lot more to talk about here and there will continue to be

[1:24:28] throughout the summer. We've got three upcoming sessions of the City Academy. This Thursday

[1:24:34] May 9th, we will be visiting the Liberty Lake sewer and water district and taking a tour of

[1:24:39] water treatment facility. Following Thursday, May 16th will be gathering up at Fire Station

[1:24:45] number three, and hearing from Chief Soto and his team, and then on May 23rd will be meeting

[1:24:51] out at the new Public Works Yard and be taking a tour of all of the Public Works in Parks

[1:24:56] facilities and talking about those. And so if you're interested in coming out and hearing about

[1:25:03] of those topics feel free to join us on any of those nights for those sessions. We start at 6 p.m.

[1:25:11] We will be getting more information out on our social media pages in the website.

[1:25:19] Next item, bike safety inventory. This is an interesting item that's being headed up by one of the

[1:25:24] members of our Parks and Arts Commission. And essentially what this is is an opportunity if you

[1:25:30] enjoy biking and want to contribute to a potential grant award opportunity for some bike

[1:25:36] safety improvements. There's an opportunity on May 11th to do that. I believe it is a 10 a.m.

[1:25:44] I don't have my email is not cooperating with me. Starting at Town Square Park,

[1:25:51] the idea is to form up there and just kind of take a bike tour in different directions and note

[1:25:58] things that you see with respect to safety concerns or anything like that that would be important to record on this audit that would be used then to put into grants for safety improvements to our bike infrastructure.

[1:26:15] So again, this is being led up by one of our parks and arts commission members and there is information about it on our Facebook page and eventually will be able to send it out to you.

[1:26:25] I just can't access it right now.

[1:26:27] So look forward to that.

[1:26:28] The Mayor mentioned the A.W.C.

[1:26:29] boards and advisory commission or committees,

[1:26:32] the deadline, if you would like to apply for any of those.

[1:26:35] And there are a couple of handfuls of different boards

[1:26:37] and advisory committee opportunities is May 13.

[1:26:41] So if you have an idea about wanting to do that,

[1:26:43] you've got about a week left.

[1:26:46] We are now about a week and a half away from the start of the 2024

[1:26:51] for farmers market, out at towns where park and we've started a shared use calendar so that

[1:26:59] if you want to sign up for a slot, you can do that and see which ones are open. If you haven't

[1:27:04] already received instructions on how to do that, we will make sure that you get those this

[1:27:09] week and if you need help walking through how to access that and record information on it,

[1:27:14] we'll help you with that too, just let us know. But that's coming up. Memorial Day events, we have

[1:27:20] several coming up between May 24th and 27th, most of those are taking place at Pavilion Park and

[1:27:27] there's information on both the website and our Facebook page detailing the times places and events

[1:27:34] coming up for Memorial Day. A little bit farther out. This is another item that has come from

[1:27:41] our Parks and Arts Commission. As you recall, they re-did the court out at Pavilion Park with a very

[1:27:48] Nice. You're also did the skate park spruce that up with some paint and graphics. They were going to dedicate both of those on June 8 at Pavilion Park. I believe that is an 11 am start. But again, we'll get you specific specific information to get that on your calendars. There's more time to prepare for that one.

[1:28:09] And then now that we have the City Council retreat on the calendar for June 26, we will be determining a location and a final agenda that we will get out to you here in the next week or so.

[1:28:22] Are there any questions about any of those reminders before we move on?

[1:28:27] All right, seeing none. I'm going to invite Kyle up to the podium to deliver the quarter one financial report.

[1:28:49] All right, thanks Mark.

[1:28:51] Good evening Mayor and Council.

[1:28:53] Before we get started,

[1:28:56] I'd like to briefly direct everybody's attention

[1:28:58] to the back of the room.

[1:29:01] We have a new person man in the sticks

[1:29:03] in the back.

[1:29:04] Evan O'Malley is their new representative from Executive Tech.

[1:29:08] And so he'll be our point of contact going forward

[1:29:11] for all things.

[1:29:13] So what's that?

[1:29:16] Well,

[1:29:17] It started on the first quarter financials, so I'm happy to report that both revenues and expenditures are behaving themselves here to date so far, so we'll run through some of the major funds, both on the revenue and expenditure side and then we'll dive a little bit deeper into our golf operations fund here towards the end.

[1:29:38] So with that, let's get to the next slide, please, Evan.

[1:29:43] So General Fund, so Major Revenue Streams, we all know about property tax.

[1:29:47] We have collected all of $8,700 so far, year-to-date for the first quarter in property tax.

[1:29:54] But I think as we all know by now, we collect the vast majority of that, both in the second.

[1:30:00] Fourth quarter. So, nothing to be alarmed with on that one.

[1:30:04] Sales and use tax, budgeted $5.9 million. So in the first quarter, we have collected $1.56 million.

[1:30:11] That's about a 10% increase year over year in the first quarter of 2023.

[1:30:17] And we're right on pace with what we budgeted for those as well. We saw a little bit of regression in March, year over year.

[1:30:26] I think our total March 2023 sales tax disbursement was about, oh, 20, some odd thousand

[1:30:34] higher than this year. We also had an additional 100,000 this year in February from the

[1:30:42] previous year. So we'll see these little bliffs here and there. I think you can kind of attribute

[1:30:47] that to a cheerful December and a little bit of a hangover in January, perhaps, but no,

[1:30:56] all everything is progressing as we have planned for sales and news tax, and obviously we see

[1:31:01] those planning on increasing as we enter construction season as well, like they do every year.

[1:31:07] So, permits and planning. This is a cost recovery piece that is reflective of the activity generated

[1:31:12] by that department, 16% of the annual budget, nothing, nothing major on that front, but tracking

[1:31:20] as we have planned.

[1:31:22] Next slide, please.

[1:31:25] So on the expenditure side, we're right where we need to be, we see a big chunk of expense

[1:31:30] come out in January every year.

[1:31:32] We have the cities insurance that comes out in January, and we have a big down payment of

[1:31:37] you benefit that is a one time annual cost that comes out in January as well.

[1:31:43] Those total little over $600,000.

[1:31:45] So you can see that's a big chunk of what we have spent in the first quarter.

[1:31:48] So we're tracking on the expenditure site right where we need to be.

[1:31:52] I'll try to rise down to the middle of that.

[1:31:55] So general fund beginning balance in so for 2024 in January was 8.69 million.

[1:32:02] I have on here it's January 2nd, not January 1st, that is a big distinction, because we

[1:32:10] receded a fifth and left reimbursement for $3.3 million on January 2nd that we had

[1:32:15] hoped to get in 2023 and did not. So with that, for our purposes for tracking for evaluation,

[1:32:22] we are receding that essentially for reporting purposes in 2023 to show how we progress in 2024.

[1:32:32] So with that said, the ending balance for the first quarter, 7.78 million, this is a

[1:32:39] we track this every year with almost no income from property tax. We're going to get a big

[1:32:45] disbursement and that'll all level out. So these are all behaving exactly how we want them to.

[1:32:50] You can see our five year ending balance for the first quarter history there. And so

[1:32:57] You know, we're well above, you know, where we've been in the past and so general funds in a great spot right now.

[1:33:05] Next slide please.

[1:33:07] So street operations.

[1:33:09] I think as we all know, we have some transition that is happening now with our major revenue source for the streets fund.

[1:33:18] So we are still collecting utility tax.

[1:33:21] We've collected 289,000 in the first quarter.

[1:33:26] We collected 282,000 in the first quarter of 2023,

[1:33:30] so right, and again, where we need to be.

[1:33:33] As we all know, the Transportation Benefit District sales tax

[1:33:36] began on April 1st.

[1:33:37] We'll see that first of this disbursement in June.

[1:33:40] And so this is kind of our shoulder season

[1:33:44] as we come out of winter season,

[1:33:47] And not a ton of expenses, we can see that we've inflated that ending balance a little bit

[1:33:53] from the beginning of January.

[1:33:55] So looking good as well on that, looking ahead, as we talked about, we're going to decrease

[1:34:00] that utility tax to 1% in June to coincide with our disbursements with the TBD sales tax.

[1:34:08] We also have a heavy equipment that's up for least renewal.

[1:34:11] we had to budget for the entire amount, I would anticipate roughly $65,000, not, I think it was

[1:34:18] on the order of roughly $444,000 that we had to budget for, because there's a payoff provision

[1:34:24] after three years with our lease agreement. So we have to account for that, even though we know

[1:34:28] we're not going to do it, that said that will live as an ending balance as at the end of the year

[1:34:34] when we do not exercise that option. And then again, with every year that we have a healthy

[1:34:40] streets fund balance. We transferred $200,000 to the streets capital for bigger projects and bigger equipment. And so we plan on that in the fourth order as well. So next slide.

[1:34:52] So our retax is we have read one and read two identical collection methods. We've receded 145,000 about in each of those. And so as

[1:35:04] The housing sales will pick up in spring and summer we're going to see those increases in that collection as well. So again, we began the year with 4.3 million we've bumped that up a little bit because we haven't had any major expenses yet.

[1:35:20] We will have Apple way of mission,

[1:35:24] spray it over late costs later in the year.

[1:35:27] We've accounted for as well as the Orchard Park store to film.

[1:35:31] And as you can see our five-year history,

[1:35:33] we're in a better spot now than we have been in,

[1:35:37] you know, any time in history and a refund.

[1:35:40] And so that continues to perform as we hope.

[1:35:45] So, next slide.

[1:35:48] So, golf operations. So,

[1:35:50] And the first quarter is really prepping for the season, so we don't have a ton of activity.

[1:35:54] We have, on a normally year, we have driving range revenue, kind of trickle in some rounds here and there,

[1:36:02] but that will start obviously to ramp up in the second and third quarter.

[1:36:08] And so with that, so first quarter sales, we got 125,000.

[1:36:14] Quite a bit above where we were at at this point last year.

[1:36:17] We'll get into a little bit of the Y here in the next couple of slides.

[1:36:24] But as you can see, so we purchased the power carts in the first quarter as well.

[1:36:29] That was 165,000.

[1:36:32] And those are going to pay for themselves many, many, many, many times over.

[1:36:36] So we look forward to a spike in revenue from them as well.

[1:36:41] So with that, we had some of those major purchases.

[1:36:44] started the year with 500,000. We end March with two little over 200,000 again with the

[1:36:52] understanding that revenue is going to pick up as we get into the nicer months. And again,

[1:37:00] obviously we'll get into this a little bit on the next couple of slides, but looking ahead, we have

[1:37:05] the rest of our employees, we have the simulators that are coming online. So we have these additional revenue

[1:37:09] sources that should give us an extra boost going forward.

[1:37:16] So with that, the next slide is the one that you guys see every month.

[1:37:19] And so this is this is our visual that essentially tells us and the

[1:37:26] citizens that are revenues and expenditures are generally behaving themselves

[1:37:30] in the first quarter of 2024.

[1:37:33] So nothing of note or alarm to report.

[1:37:37] So with that, we'll dive a little bit further into some of the golf operations data.

[1:37:43] So we talked about this a couple of years ago and there was some brief discussion earlier

[1:37:47] this year about how we track golf revenue, how was that applied, how we track golf expenditures,

[1:37:56] how was that applied. And so with that, Evan, we'll go to the next slide. And so this is hard

[1:38:04] see we have our printout here and so it's no matter how I do this it's it's impossible to see.

[1:38:09] So we're just going to kind of run through this together and so as you can see this is a five-year

[1:38:13] net revenue trend we have data on rounds and we can see if we just go left to right here just our

[1:38:21] revenue in Greenpeace alone has almost doubled in the last five years and so we can see that is not just

[1:38:28] are recent rate increases, our rounds have increased incrementally as well and so you can see

[1:38:35] enough that far right hand column there are revenue per round that's where you obviously see,

[1:38:42] we made a targeted effort to increase our rates and so that is reflected in 2023 with that revenue

[1:38:51] around and so a little bit further down, our driving range revenue is increasing kind of in kind

[1:38:58] with what we see overall at the golf course, it's just an overall increase usage at the facility

[1:39:05] and pretty substantially so. And again, with power cards in 2023, we were operating on 14 cards.

[1:39:12] And we now have 27. And so you can see that amount isn't going to double overnight, but it's going

[1:39:19] increase because obviously we're not going to have 20, 7, 28 cards in rotation all the time,

[1:39:27] but where we were running out of cards to provide by noon, this is going to provide that much needed

[1:39:34] back up to our all of our golfers and as a much needed revenue source for golf operations.

[1:39:41] And so we have a little note here at the bottom, the simulators through the end of April.

[1:39:46] So through the first four months of generated $40,000.

[1:39:50] So this is fantastic.

[1:39:51] This is exactly what we wanted them to do.

[1:39:54] I think if you talk to Chris, the pro over at Trailhead,

[1:39:59] he will tell you that this is an absolute success.

[1:40:03] So far, we will see this dip as the weather gets nicer.

[1:40:08] And so will they still get used absolutely?

[1:40:11] But our target months for the simulators are

[1:40:16] show their fall winter spring season this winter we're going to generate the vast majority of the revenue with those simulators.

[1:40:24] And then obviously as we all know later this year we help to get a restaurant in there as well and start collecting these payments and

[1:40:31] percentage of gross sales from that.

[1:40:34] So additional sources of revenue that we didn't have before that we're going to have going forward.

[1:40:38] So, next slide, please.

[1:40:43] And so with this, so we talked about this a couple of years ago, I believe in 2022,

[1:40:49] about kind of the history of how we track expenses at the golf course. And so if you look

[1:40:55] in our budget, fund for 20 golf operations has, it has our revenues, and essentially it has our

[1:41:04] pro-shop or pro-shop expenses and so you can see in here year over year so if we

[1:41:10] started the far left we have our revenues we have our expenses if you look

[1:41:15] down at the bottom 2014 through 2018 we've averaged out that generally revenue

[1:41:21] is not meeting expense just even within that window and I think we all knew

[1:41:26] that that there was some sort of subsidy provided to the golf course from what we know as the

[1:41:33] general fund. But as we creep into these subsequent years, we start to see with the increased

[1:41:41] usage of the golf course, obviously our revenues start to really outpace expense within this window

[1:41:49] right here. There's revenue and expense, but that doesn't tell the whole tale. So obviously I think

[1:41:55] We talked about this a lot when we were making decisions to finance the construction of the

[1:41:59] trailhead facility.

[1:42:01] We have other expenses that aren't accounted for in that little window that is the golf

[1:42:07] operations fund.

[1:42:09] And the reason for that is because I wasn't here when this was developed, but I understand

[1:42:14] the premise behind it was if you have maintenance of parks and you have equipment associated

[1:42:19] with that maintenance, it can be used for parks and golf course.

[1:42:24] And so rather than splitting that out that all lived in the general fund and splitting out

[1:42:31] those expenses is really troublesome when you have somebody that could potentially be mowing

[1:42:36] some area of the golf course and then goes and finds a soil five minutes later and how are we

[1:42:41] tracking that data accurately. And so we've reached kind of this logical conclusion and this evolutionary

[1:42:48] conclusion that our staff in operations is specialized enough that we don't need to be doing this

[1:42:57] anymore. So we have dedicated staff for the golf course maintenance that we can now track under

[1:43:04] the golf operations funder. I mean, I case can easily be made that we need to start doing that.

[1:43:10] Do we have to know should we properly? So that is going to be some recommendation that we start to

[1:43:16] on as we get into budget season is how does council want to track this information also

[1:43:24] understanding that we have additional pieces of information to go over on the right side of

[1:43:28] the sheet and how do we want the debt pay back structure to look how do we maximize that.

[1:43:35] And so as we get into that third column we have maintenance expense reported in the general fund

[1:43:42] and then to the right of that we have our operating position.

[1:43:45] and so that operating position accounts for all of that labor in the general fund that should be charged

[1:43:53] to the golf course. And so we see here, you know, forever, we were, you know, probably we were

[1:44:01] giving roughly $150,000 from the general fund towards the maintenance of the golf course through

[1:44:07] labor. And so in 2019 about the same. So as coincide with the previous payoff of that debt

[1:44:14] of us for trailhead, we start to see, okay, well, in 2020, okay, holy cow, we're up three

[1:44:21] grand, in 2021, okay, we're doing even better, and this is obviously coinciding with all

[1:44:26] this increased activity that we could never really say before that, wow, our operating position

[1:44:34] is to the plus, oh, okay, that's fantastic. And so, as we get into 2022, 2022, 2023, it

[1:44:42] back down again because we're prepping the new building for what it's going to be for the next 50 years.

[1:44:48] And so there's cost associated with that. We understand that. And that's that is a fantastic tale. I

[1:44:54] think that we want our citizens to know as we have had a massive increase in activity, a massive increase in

[1:45:00] New. And so that, I think that's a beneficial story to tell or beneficial position to tell our citizens. But it's not, again, the full picture. And so as we get into what this debt service is, the life of the golf course, it's fair to just point out, here's the net position. If this was a private business, here's how function and here's here's the kind of the, the total balance after everything is considered.

[1:45:27] And so obviously, we're going to have debt service for the next hopefully 10 years.

[1:45:33] We have a 20-year note, but the plan is to supercharge a pay-offs as soon as we're not

[1:45:37] going to get penalized for it.

[1:45:39] And so we have a minimum debt service payment for the next five years at the least, and then

[1:45:47] we're going to supercharge this as we can build up that repayment fund of roughly 450,000

[1:45:55] So everything considered, you know, as the golf course ever going to truly pay for itself,

[1:46:02] probably not it provides a very valuable service, I think, to the community. It has a flex space,

[1:46:09] that the community has told us that they need, that we fulfilled with this. And so with that,

[1:46:14] I think we wanted to put a bow really on this discussion to make sure that there isn't any mixed messaging

[1:46:20] out there with regards to, well as the golf course paying for itself, Chris would love to tell you

[1:46:26] yes, and they have been doing fantastic. But it's important to kind of give, paint this with a

[1:46:34] broader brush and get all of, get all of the information out in front. And then we can decide

[1:46:41] how we want to supercharge this payoff of the debt. And so with that, how this looks is we can,

[1:46:50] we can keep the maintenance of the golf course in the general fund and use any excess revenue

[1:46:55] that the golf course generates, not paying that back towards a pre-payment of the trailhead

[1:47:03] note. Or we can redirect all the maintenance expense in the general fund under golf operations.

[1:47:11] And this was some of the discussion points we brought up during the trailhead financing discussion

[1:47:18] was are we going to use general fund dollars to pay off this loan? And the answer was really

[1:47:22] no, we're going to use real estate exercise tax, and we're going to use any excess funding

[1:47:28] that the golf course generated under its current structure towards pay off. So,

[1:47:33] both things can be true, but it's really up to counsel on how we want that mechanism to play it.

[1:47:39] And so with that, we can continue to have this discussion. We'll dive a little bit deeper further

[1:47:47] as we get into budget season, ultimately on how we want this to look, but essentially that's

[1:47:53] our position now, and I think the golf course has a phenomenal future ahead of it. What that

[1:48:00] I'll take any questions.

[1:48:04] Any questions?

[1:48:06] All right, Councilman Revolve, more of the comment.

[1:48:10] I was at the Driving Range Sunday and Ty was there.

[1:48:14] He said it's just been hugely busy.

[1:48:17] Yes.

[1:48:18] Yeah.

[1:48:19] So, and it didn't come up in Mark's report,

[1:48:22] but is there anything happening with the restaurant?

[1:48:25] We'll have that discussion.

[1:48:27] We'll play itself out at the appropriate time, but yes.

[1:48:29] So, yeah, they were busy.

[1:48:33] Yeah.

[1:48:34] Councilmember Kennedy.

[1:48:35] Oh, and then, and then Mayor Curtin.

[1:48:37] Thanks, Kyle.

[1:48:38] That's a great report.

[1:48:40] Yeah.

[1:48:40] The main is the expansion report in general fund.

[1:48:43] I'm very strongly on that needs to be shown always, always, always.

[1:48:48] Go, of course, that I know for a long period of time, people have filled this.

[1:48:52] Making money is not making money where the case may be on it.

[1:48:56] I don't think it's probably ever going to make net money.

[1:49:00] And quite honestly, I've said this to the glue in the face.

[1:49:03] I'm not really concerned about that because if we're subsidizing that to some degree,

[1:49:07] as long as the citizen knows what that is, there's a thing called intrinsic value.

[1:49:12] And there was an intrinsic value that it looked like in a period from the very start up until

[1:49:17] 2020 when we put a lot of research into it.

[1:49:21] We subsidized about $150,000-$60,000 a year.

[1:49:25] And I remember at the time we put a lot of time and effort into looking at, if we didn't

[1:49:29] have the golf course, if we had that 54 acres in it was a park, well, what it cost to maintain

[1:49:34] that?

[1:49:35] And then difference was about $160,000 that we would still be maintaining.

[1:49:41] So if you look at that from the standpoint of it, would we pay $160,000 to have 54 acres

[1:49:48] a beautiful with it has a tremendous intrinsic value. I think yes, I think the citizens will always

[1:49:54] look at that and go hold it. That's great because you'll get out of their mind as it will

[1:49:59] we put five million into it or eight million is not paying for itself. We need you to do this.

[1:50:04] We need to do that. Break it down to say these are their hard costs and to do that. We need to

[1:50:09] have the all of the expenses not buried in the general fund, but specifically for the golf course.

[1:50:16] Thank you. I'm really encouraged by this.

[1:50:19] Right. Mayor for Tim.

[1:50:23] Thanks, Kyle, for this report as well.

[1:50:26] I don't really have a question.

[1:50:28] It's more of a comment.

[1:50:29] And I appreciate what you said Kyle about.

[1:50:33] The fact that.

[1:50:34] Essentially, this is not paying for itself.

[1:50:37] And as councilmember Kennedy said, it will it will likely.

[1:50:42] Not necessarily get to the paying for itself.

[1:50:44] I guess my disappointment is that when we had these discussions over the past couple of years,

[1:50:51] we were telling the citizens that it was paying for itself.

[1:50:56] And I feel like we should have been more upfront about that when we were having these prior discussions.

[1:51:05] So more of a comment, Kyle, and a question.

[1:51:09] But I appreciate the direction that we're adding in as well.

[1:51:12] All right. Any other questions, guys?

[1:51:16] Councillor, we're Spencer.

[1:51:17] Yeah, just one question.

[1:51:19] Kyle, thanks for this report.

[1:51:21] So for 2023, the revenue, the versus expense is pretty tight.

[1:51:27] And do we anticipate that it's going to continue to be that tight?

[1:51:32] No, so we really laid the foundation in 2023 with the

[1:51:40] revenue to really start out pacing these expenses.

[1:51:43] And so if we don't start seeing that,

[1:51:45] then we have to figure out why.

[1:51:47] So because that is the crux behind a lot of these improvements

[1:51:50] that we saw and the rating increases that trailed that was

[1:51:54] that we need to start maximizing revenue for this facility.

[1:52:00] Okay.

[1:52:01] Caspar McKenney.

[1:52:02] I like making comment on the simulators.

[1:52:05] I believe once we get some sort of food facility in that,

[1:52:09] Well, simulators are going to start doing substantially more.

[1:52:12] So we will attract individuals that are not going to be there for golf, but they will look

[1:52:16] at that and say, I'm going to go over and get a bite to eat.

[1:52:18] I want to use the simulators.

[1:52:20] We're going to get a clientele that we probably don't have now, so I think they're going to

[1:52:24] do very well.

[1:52:25] Once you get a food service in there.

[1:52:28] I think an untapped, an untapped market for that, especially during the summer when people are

[1:52:35] outside.

[1:52:35] Um, you know, with wasabi dodgeball and all the other thing that does, I can see somebody bringing in their, you know, nine, 10, 11 year olds for birthday parties, you know, reserve both of them. It's pretty, if you have that many kids is going to actually end up paying paying, paying, being pretty cheap per kid to do that. So, you know, put that hat on, come somewhere to I'm, right, it comes, comes.

[1:52:57] I just wondered if there's some more marketing we could do around that as well because I have a nine year old and I don't know anything about golf simulators are that they do that because I don't.

[1:53:07] So I think that if there's some more marketing that we can do about those opportunities.

[1:53:11] That would be awesome.

[1:53:12] And then I also think that once the restaurant does get in there.

[1:53:15] One of the things we talked about as far as revenue generation was using the flex space for bigger events and weddings and whatever else is there.

[1:53:22] So I think everything's going to be on the upswing and may not pay for itself, but I think it's going to be doing.

[1:53:27] I'll just all appeal from here. I think I'll let you know how the wedding thing goes.

[1:53:32] All right, anybody else? All right. Thanks very much. Thank you. Thanks, Kyle.

[1:53:41] Next item, I wanted to address this during the report versus waiting to get to the second read of

[1:53:47] the ordinance just because this was pointed out at the end of this discussion at the last council meeting

[1:53:52] rightfully so by council member Cargill. And so if you have looked through your packet,

[1:53:57] You'll see a little bit different presentation of the red line version of the ordinance as it is presented there with a draft stamp on it and another version that is a clean version and so they are identical the difference is that one is a red line version where you see both the pre and post change and the other clean version is only the post change.

[1:54:26] And I point that out because the error that occurred was not with the previously enacted

[1:54:38] ordinance.

[1:54:38] In other words, ordinance 119D was passed and put into effect without section 2F, which was

[1:54:52] the issue that came up.

[1:54:54] And so, the reason that occurred during the last council meeting during the first read was because the change was made on the floor during the discussion and it was not put into the red line version and for whatever reason we signed the red line version into effect.

[1:55:15] And so when we picked up the document to make the changes,

[1:55:18] that came over and it shouldn't have been there.

[1:55:21] It was adopted without two F in there.

[1:55:24] And so what you'll see in both the red line version

[1:55:27] and the clean version is sans 2F,

[1:55:31] because it was not part of ordinance 119D.

[1:55:35] And so both of these are the versions that are completely

[1:55:45] proposed during the first read of 119E.

[1:55:50] And so if there are questions about that,

[1:55:53] I'll be happy to address those.

[1:55:54] But I wanted to take the opportunity

[1:55:56] for transparency sake and to confirm the fact

[1:55:59] that we have also gone through the rest of the document

[1:56:02] to ensure that there weren't no other items

[1:56:06] that snuck in there that were not supposed to be in there.

[1:56:09] And we've confirmed that that was the only thing

[1:56:11] that was reflected that shouldn't have been.

[1:56:13] And so what you'll see in the packet in the proposed

[1:56:17] one-19e second read, again, is the same exact documents,

[1:56:23] but one is the red line version with pre-inpost.

[1:56:25] And one is the clean version with only post.

[1:56:29] But those are what you will be considering in the second

[1:56:31] read later in the meeting.

[1:56:36] Any questions before we get there?

[1:56:39] OK, very good.

[1:56:41] And then the last item, you heard the mayor earlier

[1:56:43] talk about. We have overlapping recognition weeks. We have the municipal clerks recognition

[1:56:50] week that we've already talked about a little bit. And then we also have public service

[1:56:55] recognition week, which goes back to 1985. And so this is a federal program that applies to

[1:57:05] public servants at all levels, federal state, county, local, tribal. And so the reason I point

[1:57:11] this out is because, and as you know, we have an awful lot of folks that are out there, not

[1:57:16] only that work for the city of Liberty Lake, but that work for Spokane County and work for

[1:57:20] our neighbors next door and work for the folks, the municipalities over across the border.

[1:57:26] And so all of those people contribute every day to making sure that the communities that they serve,

[1:57:32] have the things that they need or the public safety is where it needs to be, the roads are clean,

[1:57:39] and the parks are clean, the equipment is maintained.

[1:57:42] And so I just wanted to point that out

[1:57:44] from the city administrators, vantage point.

[1:57:48] None of this could be possible without the staff

[1:57:50] that we have on board here in this community,

[1:57:53] as well as the others that surround us.

[1:57:55] And so just a personal thanks for me to them.

[1:57:58] And then I guess to encourage everyone else,

[1:58:00] as you see these folks wondering around town,

[1:58:03] working on the things that they work on every day,

[1:58:06] extend them a word of thanks, especially during this week,

[1:58:11] this public service recognition week,

[1:58:14] and that concludes my report, Mayor.

[1:58:16] All right. Thank you. All right.

[1:58:19] Up next, we have community engagement commission update.

[1:58:22] Robin, welcome. Good evening.

[1:58:26] And councilmember. Can you move the mic down a little bit for yourself?

[1:58:29] Yes.

[1:58:33] Okay. And my coming out so far, me better.

[1:58:36] Okay, good evening. I'm Robin Beckett all in a member of the Community Engagement Commission and giving up an update report on our efforts for this month.

[1:58:49] So, we need to move back a little bit in March.

[1:58:52] Lisa Key provided an update with regards to the comprehensive plan that she is working on. She and her group are all working on.

[1:59:02] So, a big part of that will be public in participation and engagement.

[1:59:08] So, we are currently, we've provided us last month, the presentation, and this month will have what we call a special workshop with her, and we'll be working in concert and collaboration with the Planning Department and Planning Commission on this,

[1:59:26] realize and that it's an important feature of the comp plan to get these public input that's

[1:59:34] needed for this document.

[1:59:38] So, you know, probably it always is ongoing and continuous till whenever

[1:59:44] you adopt it in June of 2026. So, we will figure out and work on a way on how best to launch that.

[1:59:54] So, going back to March again if you were calm, we had a workshop.

[2:00:00] Between the city council and one of the things that came out of it was, how can we have a meeting that's outside the parameters of just the normal city council here.

[2:00:13] So two of our city council commission members formed a subcommittee. It was bill normal in the summer of our own came up with the rough draft, an idea of the town hall and it was I think this was discussed of the subject matter would be on transparency and at the trailhead.

[2:00:35] So, that rough draft is out where we were viewing it again in May this month on next week.

[2:00:45] And we'll hopefully finalize that for everybody for that town hall meeting.

[2:00:53] So, one of the things I recognized during our everybody's discussion today was the farmer's market.

[2:01:00] So we're also discussing the farmers market and realize and if you can recall

[2:01:06] I think it was last year. We did a display on favorite events and really the farmers market

[2:01:12] It's just it comes up to the top community event that we have

[2:01:17] We want to keep on improving and enhancing whether feed displays interactive displays because

[2:01:24] That gets then more of the demographics

[2:01:26] projects, broader demographics coming up to talk with us, we mentioned at the workshop about the binder that we're putting together so that we have that information, we're able to take people's comments and hopefully get back to them.

[2:01:42] So it's just a continual process of what we can do to improve and enhance that process at the farmers market knowing that that's really one of the.

[2:01:56] community. Are there any questions or comments?

[2:02:02] Well, that that interactive sign-up sheet

[2:02:05] should be available to you guys as well. So we structured it with a couple of spots for council

[2:02:10] and then that meeting engagement on there and then when it whoever the guest is for the week,

[2:02:15] whether it's the Friends of the Library or whichever group it is. Okay. And this year we have

[2:02:22] It was asked that I usually do quite a few displays and out there and for the most part

[2:02:28] I used to just come up there and think, okay I'll do this display but I'm a little bit

[2:02:33] more organized display for each it's every two weeks and some subject matters so I know that

[2:02:40] the CEC will be commenting on that but that this month's meeting also so that is it is good to have

[2:02:48] that are organized so that we know what's out there and it might pertain like.

[2:02:53] For example, we're thinking of when I click this together, about one, we're having the

[2:02:59] book sale, maybe a week before that, but what is your favorite book just to help to encourage

[2:03:06] that help on the book sale. So it's just things like that. Anybody have any questions?

[2:03:16] Go ahead,

[2:03:17] having it in the flex place at the trail in building.

[2:03:20] That's been a discussion.

[2:03:21] Yes.

[2:03:22] OK.

[2:03:22] When do you think might do that or not might happen?

[2:03:26] I believe it's some time in June.

[2:03:31] OK.

[2:03:32] Hopefully we'll have wireless mics in that room before then.

[2:03:36] And that's just, I think that's always flexible,

[2:03:39] because we're still working on certain logistics.

[2:03:44] Yeah.

[2:03:44] with a town hall, I'm going to need a mic to walk around with an accord. Is it very long?

[2:03:49] We might want to consider that and we can't get those in before that. You might want to have it

[2:03:53] here at the library somewhere. We'll set the figure that out. Exactly. And those are the

[2:03:58] logisics, but that's what one year or one facility that was mentioned. Right. Any other comments or questions?

[2:04:07] All right, thanks for me in here.

[2:04:10] Thank you.

[2:04:12] Okay.

[2:04:13] Next up, smoking and rally fire department.

[2:04:16] Chief, welcome.

[2:04:21] Good evening, Madam Mayor.

[2:04:23] Seeing council members, city officials and citizens of Liberty Lake.

[2:04:27] I'm Frank Soto, junior fire chief.

[2:04:30] And I'm going to present to you our April response time numbers.

[2:04:34] Before I get started, I would like to just as a reminder.

[2:04:38] like Mark had said on May 16th, as 6pm at Station 3, we'll have our Liberty Lake Speed Academy

[2:04:45] and you're all welcome. Just so you know some of you, if you're late I'm going to put you

[2:04:51] to work with me watching dishes in a station or a servant dinner, so or you have to pay an entry fee,

[2:05:00] so there's no free rides. All right, let's get started. Next slide please.

[2:05:04] So for the month of April, I told Paul Bynne, this is for all of our response areas.

[2:05:10] We had 1881 911 calls of those calls.

[2:05:14] 84% were for emergency medical services, and I apologize.

[2:05:19] I was hoping to make this a little bit smaller so you couldn't see that at all.

[2:05:23] I hope you are getting it on your computer screens.

[2:05:27] I'll bring some glasses next time.

[2:05:29] Madam Mayor, for you.

[2:05:35] So for total call volume, we are at 7053 calls for the year to date to April. Next slide, please.

[2:05:48] So this is for the month of April.

[2:05:52] We had 2318 or 2218 responses for those 1881 call out.

[2:06:00] So again, as a reminder, while all responses require one unit to respond,

[2:06:08] there are several that have more than one that to respond.

[2:06:11] So that number, your response numbers should always be more than your incident numbers.

[2:06:15] numbers. If you look down to the next category, our responses for individual units we've had

[2:06:24] five units with over 200 calls for each for the month of April. Below that, we currently have

[2:06:31] three units who are over a thousand calls for the year. So again, it's no mystery. It is our

[2:06:41] opportunity neighborhood, municipality,

[2:06:44] engine one, engine seven, and engine the next slide, please.

[2:06:51] So these are the call volumes for the individual

[2:06:54] incentive locations by station areas.

[2:06:57] So each of our ten station areas, you'll see if you add

[2:07:01] up the percentages for first three.

[2:07:03] They make a 45% of our total call bond is in the opportunity

[2:07:07] neighborhood next slide, please.

[2:07:13] So this is our automatic aid, mutual aid numbers.

[2:07:18] The top numbers are where we go into another department's district in the bottom numbers

[2:07:24] are other districts that come into our areas to help out with automatic aid.

[2:07:29] And again, automatic aid is the closest appropriate unit.

[2:07:33] We do not have automatic aid with all area of fire departments because that is

[2:07:39] contractual based on the ability to stand up a full department, for example, a newman lake.

[2:07:45] We do not have automatic aid with newman lake. We do have mutual aid with them.

[2:07:53] But these numbers here are specifically towards automatic aid. So 80 out of district 113 in district. Next slide please.

[2:08:05] These are numbers for each month to month, and then based over the last five years and

[2:08:13] these are the busiest five years, I wasn't going to get repetitive as I usually do, but

[2:08:19] I'm going to go ahead and do it anyway. This April, the 1800 A1 calls is our DCSA

[2:08:27] So, I'm really surprised. I don't know what's causing the increase in call quality right now,

[2:08:36] but we are currently 8.7% ahead of last year's numbers, and 7% ahead of our all-time highest amount,

[2:08:46] which was in 2020. So things are again or not slowing down. And again, I don't know what's going on.

[2:08:53] I couldn't tell you what it is, one thing or another, I just know it's busy.

[2:08:58] Next slide, please.

[2:09:01] This is just total call volume here to date.

[2:09:05] Next slide, please.

[2:09:08] And these will be going over specifically in Liberty Lake.

[2:09:11] Next slide.

[2:09:13] So for the month of April, we had 120 calls of those 74, 74%

[2:09:18] for a reduced to medical services,

[2:09:21] those 70, 4%, 44% were for advanced life support

[2:09:25] and 30% were for basic life support.

[2:09:28] Next slide, please.

[2:09:31] Here in date, we're at 426 calls.

[2:09:33] Again, roughly 75% are for emergency medical services.

[2:09:39] And those are broken out further into 46% for ALS

[2:09:43] and 28% for BLS.

[2:09:46] Next slide. So for the month of April, the 120 calls responses that we did have generated

[2:09:56] 148 responses and year to date by at 510 responses. Obviously, engine three is our

[2:10:03] busiest unit as is our primary unit out of Liberty Lake. And so clearly they have the most

[2:10:09] have breast responses and calls in their area. Next slide please.

[2:10:18] We did go bring it out further

[2:10:20] for just specific to Liberty Lake and surprising enough, this is our second busiest April

[2:10:27] for Liberty Lake. So you can look over the numbers, a month and a month over the last

[2:10:32] five years and you can see that we're steadily climbing up and getting

[2:10:36] visitor. And then you're to date, we are technically a roughly

[2:10:41] just under 4% less than last year's numbers, which is good to

[2:10:45] see. However, there is a slight increase in fire and

[2:10:49] calls, and that's always makes me a little bit nervous, especially

[2:10:53] as we are coming up on our wild, wild viruses. So again, we'll just

[2:10:59] day on it and get there's a quick weekend.

[2:11:03] The next slide is our total year to date,

[2:11:06] call volume 4, Liberty Lake, and next slide.

[2:11:12] Try a little bit different, Matt.

[2:11:15] But I know when it came out on this,

[2:11:16] I knew it was going to be like this on here.

[2:11:18] It's not as pretty as my maps.

[2:11:22] So Liberty Lake, you'll notice it to the right

[2:11:24] and at the bottom.

[2:11:26] These are not, these are just heat censored

[2:11:29] mass in a sense that the smaller the number is blue as in cold and as it warms up the

[2:11:34] turns to green as it gets warmer, turns to yellow as it gets warmer, turns to an orange as

[2:11:39] and then when it's hot it's red so you can I want to say you can see it but technically you can

[2:11:45] so the next slide please. So our final slide is you're the date making you can see the opportunity

[2:11:52] the Nibrod area is the triangle of doom, as I call it, and then our own guardian, which shows

[2:12:01] up significantly within the map.

[2:12:05] That's it for my report. I'm here for questions.

[2:12:10] Okay, Ty.

[2:12:12] Well, it comes from a sense here. I mean, it comes from our Kennedy.

[2:12:14] Thanks, Chief.

[2:12:16] So opportunity neighborhood is it just based on population density? Is that the most densely populated

[2:12:22] area, but it is, but it's just, yeah, it's just, uh, uh, yeah, I'm kind of been able to pin

[2:12:32] down any, any other, I mean, we got it, we got it all there. So yeah, so it's just, it's just

[2:12:39] just an older neighborhood. So it's just things are a little bit more, uh, like we generally don't

[2:12:47] have as many, you know, fire alarm calls, things that need shared in areas where things are newer,

[2:12:52] because things are, you know, kept up to speed. So, but generally speaking, a lot of roads,

[2:12:59] so significant car accidents, things like that. So it's a larger area, but yeah, it's heavily populated

[2:13:08] requires a lot of attention. Councilor McKenney. Thanks. Thanks, Chief, I appreciate you report.

[2:13:15] And I also appreciate the font because I can still read it so it tells me I'm not over it.

[2:13:20] Hale totally.

[2:13:21] So I appreciate that.

[2:13:22] My question is regards to any drug related calls and stuff.

[2:13:27] You keep statistics?

[2:13:28] Oh yes.

[2:13:29] On that.

[2:13:30] Yes sir.

[2:13:31] Sure.

[2:13:31] Would you?

[2:13:33] Well, I'll do you want better.

[2:13:35] So how about next, next month, I'll bring in some specific.

[2:13:39] Very good.

[2:13:40] Because I don't want to generalize.

[2:13:41] I have them, but I much, much rather, I'm a visual learner.

[2:13:45] I like, well, I'm like, can I have my firefighters?

[2:13:49] I like pictures.

[2:13:51] So I'd like to bring you those pictures with a numbers

[2:13:53] unless you guys can put yourselves in and you'll be quite surprised

[2:13:57] and maybe somewhat disturbed in what's going on out there.

[2:14:00] So I'll absolutely have that for you all.

[2:14:03] Yeah, I would, I think I always would appreciate that

[2:14:05] because you can't watch the news at any time,

[2:14:07] but they don't have some report on overdoses,

[2:14:09] your Washington and all or whatever has happened there. So I think we have those statistics

[2:14:14] I think it's going to help us better to see how we're going to be able to assist with these

[2:14:20] challenges because we're moving forward. Absolutely. I will. I'll have it. I haven't down to

[2:14:26] I say I but my team of personnel or phenomenal. We have it down to the exact locations like

[2:14:37] this store, this place, this house, we, we know exactly where they're coming, where the calls are generated and all sure all that information would be so, so you'll know it first time.

[2:14:50] That's memorable.

[2:14:52] So kind of in relation to what he was just saying, and those has maps several screens back, has maps up like two.

[2:15:00] Senate, is that has or does products drugs? I mean, is that. Oh, no. This would be generally different

[2:15:09] because we do categorize, we would categorize the drug overdoses, I think, alcohol calls are completely,

[2:15:19] they're all categorized as the MS call specific. So, as matters, you know, gasoline spills,

[2:15:26] of poor ox bills, police bills, it could be a big diesel carrying anything within it,

[2:15:35] you know, acid vases, you know, and we're specifically, is this trying to look

[2:15:41] doing what what streets, you know, bounded air, what's the boundaries.

[2:15:46] That's agree. Well, I have it in my head. It is station

[2:15:55] needs some hines,

[2:15:58] times to spray, to, uh,

[2:16:02] as a university, my thinking university,

[2:16:05] mobile phone up.

[2:16:06] So, it's fairly significant.

[2:16:09] But by that map, I'd say,

[2:16:11] not so much here, here or here.

[2:16:12] Yeah, yeah.

[2:16:13] No, it makes sense.

[2:16:14] I work in the triangle to do, man.

[2:16:16] Yeah. So, okay.

[2:16:17] Thanks.

[2:16:18] I should.

[2:16:20] All right.

[2:16:20] Anybody else have any questions for the team?

[2:16:24] Well, all right.

[2:16:25] I appreciate it.

[2:16:29] Okay, last but not least, we have the re-legs who are in water district, we have somebody online.

[2:16:42] We're not a, I never see Tom.

[2:16:47] Doesn't look like it. Okay, well, if we end up finding out that we do have somebody from the sort of water district on, we will come back to them.

[2:16:54] Okay, next up, no workshop discussions, we'll move on to the consent agenda, Mayor for Tim.

[2:17:00] Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve general business consent agenda items 10 A, B, C, D, M, E.

[2:17:09] We have a second from Councilmember Dunn. All right. All in favor of approving discussion.

[2:17:16] Well, it's consent agenda. Generally, there's no discussion on consent agenda.

[2:17:20] That's why people wanted to pull something out.

[2:17:22] That would. Oh, am I too late. Well, that should have been done at the beginning of.

[2:17:26] Oh, okay, showing. That's on. Okay, go ahead if you'd like to. Well, just remember any of those changes need to happen when we do the agenda prove. Oh, okay, okay, 10 C. Okay, you want to move move to move 10 C to action items. Is that what the motion is. Yes, okay, do we have a second to move item 10.

[2:17:46] And see, all right, we have a motion in a second. All in favor of moving general business, 10C to general.

[2:17:54] Mayor. Yes.

[2:17:56] Do we need to, do I need to withdraw the previous motion since it was seconded?

[2:18:01] Let's see first.

[2:18:02] Okay.

[2:18:03] We have a votes to move it and then we'll address that. Good point.

[2:18:06] All right, all those in favor of moving consent agenda items see under general business actions.

[2:18:12] Please say I.

[2:18:14] Okay, well, I see three and I think I heard a four, one, two, three, okay, sorry, couldn't hear. All right, and then that would then those opposed would be one, two, all right, so motion passes for two, so we will move consent agenda C under general business. Now go ahead.

[2:18:34] Councillor Cargill. Okay, I'll withdraw my previous motion on approving and maybe see you in the next part.

[2:18:43] Did someone second question? Yes, Dan did.

[2:18:46] Okay, so.

[2:18:47] So all of the necessary list to the initial motion is made.

[2:18:52] Yes.

[2:18:54] So motion to the middle.

[2:18:55] Thanks fine.

[2:18:56] So I can vote and be.

[2:18:58] Okay, so you got you.

[2:18:59] Do you hear that, Chris?

[2:19:00] Yeah.

[2:19:00] Okay, so those in favor of approving general business consent agenda items A, B, D, and E, please say aye.

[2:19:10] Any opposed? Right motion passes six, zero. Okay. Then we're on to general business, which, um, so 10 C has become 11 A.

[2:19:19] So Mayor, I make a motion to approve general business item 11 A, the intergovernmental agreement between

[2:19:25] the city of Liberty Lake regarding community trip reduction implementation.

[2:19:30] Perfect. We have a second. Second from Councilmember Doug. All right now. Discussion. That's memorable.

[2:19:38] Okay, well after going over this couple of times, I guess my question is, how is this enforceable?

[2:19:45] I mean, you can't force people to take transit or carpool. So I guess I'm not clear on what the intent is.

[2:19:54] who's about you, you want to answer that mark?

[2:19:57] So the intent is to promote programs and put mechanisms in place that help people make decisions

[2:20:05] who do want to reduce the number of times they're commuting in a single passenger vehicle.

[2:20:13] And so to your point, there is no real enforcement, but this is all an incentive-based program

[2:20:21] to help particularly employers with that 100 employees and up and also public entities give their employees alternate options.

[2:20:36] In order to larger employers in this city, promoting this to their employees?

[2:20:42] they are. Yes. And we would have to get a report from the county to show what level of

[2:20:49] participation is happening in those other employers, but I can tell you anecdotally annually,

[2:20:55] there's a reception that kind of goes through the changes from year to year in participation rates.

[2:21:03] In the last two years, I want to say at least five of our employers have been recognized.

[2:21:08] I think Councilmember Don was at the last one, and maybe able to clarify that.

[2:21:14] There's an annual award and reception gesture, which employers and participants that can be

[2:21:19] prepared about your program are recognized and recognized in individual employees from the participation.

[2:21:25] So I can't point to like, you know, the amazing statistics, but I'm excited that there are some really impressive changes in patterns, people being different.

[2:21:32] like as well as people, yeah, years in, you know,

[2:21:37] I'd say, transit-based community.

[2:21:39] So I characterize it as really an encouragement

[2:21:42] and promotion objective.

[2:21:44] It really is putting together the package of ways

[2:21:47] from employers to encourage employees

[2:21:50] to find alter events to get to work.

[2:21:53] Thank you for that clarification.

[2:21:56] It counts from records.

[2:21:57] And I think that we usually get a like a glossy brochure

[2:22:01] in our mailboxes of all the different agencies, what level they're at and everything to.

[2:22:06] I feel like it came out fairly in the last couple of months or so, but it tells you

[2:22:10] which agencies, how many trip reductions all of that. So look for that in the mailbox.

[2:22:16] Tate kind of administers this and she's she's doing a great job, especially since we hit that

[2:22:22] hundred mark. There's some more ways to put your data. And so the employees are encouraged to

[2:22:28] mark going to the website and kind of keep track of, you know, how many trips they

[2:22:34] made by themselves or or, you know, who they, how they got to work. And so that's

[2:22:39] a really good place for data collection as well. Thank you, sir.

[2:22:44] All right. So there's no other discussion or questions. We'll go ahead and take a vote.

[2:22:49] Those in favor of approving general business action item A, intergovernmental

[2:22:54] agreement between smoking and county incentive library lake for community

[2:22:58] reproduction implementation, please say aye aye aye aye any opposed aye

[2:23:03] motion passes six zero. All right, council comments any council comments at this

[2:23:10] point.

[2:23:12] Council member Kennedy. I should have more question in regard to trail that, you know,

[2:23:19] meeting over there several times that the acoustics in that room are really

[2:23:23] is a city looking at some way of putting,

[2:23:27] I'll use example of curtains or installations better

[2:23:31] into that ceiling, because I know it's very hard to hear

[2:23:35] when somebody's speaking in there.

[2:23:37] Sometimes it can be.

[2:23:38] I know what the topic has come up.

[2:23:40] So as we're working on the microphones,

[2:23:42] they're different things.

[2:23:43] Very good.

[2:23:44] Thank you.

[2:23:46] Anybody else?

[2:23:48] All right.

[2:23:48] I know I'm not Council,

[2:23:49] but just a couple quick reminders.

[2:23:50] make sure your microphones are close to you guys, somebody almost have to eat them to be heard.

[2:23:55] Remember, because sometimes people can't hear you online and then just in other reminders,

[2:24:02] that any going for it, any changes to the agenda, if we're going to pull anything out of the

[2:24:08] consent agenda, please make that request at the beginning of the meeting under the agenda approval.

[2:24:14] I appreciate that. All right, public hearings and appeals, we have no resolution,

[2:24:18] So that brings us to ordinance 119 E, Kelsey ordinance

[2:24:26] number 119 E in ordinance of the city of Liberty Lake Spokane County, Washington, amending ordinance number 119 D establishing the Liberty Lake Public Library and revealing any provisions and conflict thereof.

[2:24:39] All right, thank you.

[2:24:41] We have a motion and I will promise all remember since in commenced before we take a vote.

[2:24:46] Good Mayor Perthem.

[2:24:50] Sorry, I had to get off mute there for a second. I'll make a motion to approve ordinance 19.

[2:24:56] We have a second. Sorry.

[2:24:58] All right. We have a second by council member.

[2:25:00] Done. All right. Any questions?

[2:25:01] Comments on one 19e.

[2:25:06] All right. Not hearing you're seeing any. So at this time, since this is a second read ordinance,

[2:25:11] we'll open things up for citizen comments on this topic only.

[2:25:15] So if there's anyone here in Chambers are online,

[2:25:17] If you'd like to make a comment on our ordinance 119 E, please speak now or for our

[2:25:23] hold your piece if you're online. You can go ahead and send a message to

[2:25:29] to our host in the chat feature.

[2:25:34] Let's see if there's any makeup in on.

[2:25:37] I'm sure I don't have any notes saying the chat's off. I don't see any. Okay,

[2:25:41] so we have a little bit of trouble from that earlier. All right, now so not hearing any public

[2:25:44] comment, we'll go to a vote. So those in favor of approving ordinance 119E, please say aye.

[2:25:51] Aye, aye.

[2:25:52] All right. That's six hands.

[2:25:54] Any opposed?

[2:25:56] Hearing any motion passes six zero.

[2:25:58] Thanks, everybody.

[2:26:00] We don't have any emergency ordinances.

[2:26:03] Introduction upcoming agenda items.

[2:26:06] There was to hear.

[2:26:07] Took note of a couple things here.

[2:26:09] to possible town hall for garbage service. I'm not just going to say waste management, just garbage

[2:26:16] service general. Carbon fuel workshop for potential resolution, organize that with pros and cons,

[2:26:24] so we can bring that back. Is there anything else that we want to add to the advanced agenda?

[2:26:31] It's looking around, not seeing anybody. Okay, that makes that easy.

[2:26:38] Um, so next we're back to citizen comments. So once again, opportunities out there.

[2:26:44] If there's anybody in chambers, you want to make a citizen comment.

[2:26:46] Please spot one of our yellow sheets or raise your hand and we'll follow up with that.

[2:26:50] Or if there's somebody on it, you know, to come back for another comment.

[2:26:53] Okay.

[2:26:56] Once again, my name's Thomas McLaughlin.

[2:26:58] I think Trailhead is quite a place for real growth.

[2:27:04] I know myself could go out and play golf.

[2:27:07] I'll be playing nine holes rather than 18 holes when you're 80 years old.

[2:27:12] And so I see a lot of growth.

[2:27:16] By nephew, he belongs to Mount of Country Club.

[2:27:20] He raises three sons and he only has time for nine holes.

[2:27:24] So I think once you get that restaurant in there,

[2:27:26] I think you're going to see real growth.

[2:27:29] Yeah.

[2:27:29] Thank you.

[2:27:30] Appreciate you being here.

[2:27:31] Do we have anybody online who would like to comment?

[2:27:37] Nope.

[2:27:37] Okay.

[2:27:38] All right.

[2:27:39] Hearing and no further citizen comments.

[2:27:41] We don't have an executive session.

[2:27:43] So unless there's any further business,

[2:27:45] to be brought forth for the council.

[2:27:48] Hearing any?

[2:27:48] We will go ahead and adjourn.

[2:27:49] Thanks for coming everybody.

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