[0:50] you're really when you're ready okay

[1:03] is that water

[1:06] thank you ma'am thank you

[1:11] babe

[1:14] foreign

[1:26] er uh Bryce would you mind doing our prayer please

[1:33] Bart I'm sorry didn't mean insult you were thank you for this time that we get

[1:39] to come together in order to uh and

[1:42] take your business from our town and pray that I pray that you'll just give

[1:46] us wisdom peace and patience with the decisions

[1:50] that we make let us thank you for the for this last

[1:55] year I thank you for Jess and for her help throughout this year it's been

[2:04] you just can't put a price on it it has really helped us our time and uh

[2:09] for everybody involved here a woman is just in this

[2:19] thing ready for all that you do in Jesus name

[2:22] well it could be worse because all right join me and pledge please I

[2:29] pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[2:34] Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and

[2:40] justice for all foreign

[2:44] call please here Miller here

[2:48] here

[2:52] now here uh says some comments see nobody signed

[2:58] up there so number go to number six consent agenda

[3:04] uh gust consideration of possible action Senate Jim and fall into items from

[3:08] considered routine by Lindsay city council will be active

[3:12] it acted with one motion discussion desired on any item that item will be

[3:18] removed from consent agenda considered separate

[3:21] a approval minutes well does everybody have something that would

[3:25] have removed from the I would like to move the financials um

[3:36] I wanted for a member of the council will happen

[3:41] okay so if we need the letter e

[3:50] second motion's been made the second to prove

[3:53] everything but e roll call please hello

[3:57] here

[4:01] yes or no yes

[4:05] oh yes Barker yes yes

[4:20] okay Financial reports

[4:30] uh I've wanted to go over the this is my reconciled uh the short fairy version of

[4:38] the financials and the thing I really want to really prioritize in this whole

[4:47] uh shortened condensed report is we have made a little bit of progress as you as

[4:54] it states there that we really should have 10 and 30 percent of our advocacy

[5:02] annual revenues for reserves we're at 4.4 specific

[5:08] so we're making inches maybe quarter inches

[5:14] but we still have a long ways to go and I think you'll see that reflected in

[5:19] your budget message of how good stewards the council has been this past year and

[5:24] monitoring the spending and the expenditures and I just want to

[5:29] highlight that the next sheet after that is your once in emergency tax fund

[5:36] um this is also

[5:40] um just back down to the ending balance that's a percentage of annual revenues

[5:45] we do to the increased sales tax that we have had over the last three months in

[5:52] this physical year we haven't always had to transfer out of

[5:57] here to make payroll or subsidize the general fund in those areas so we're at

[6:03] uh uh 52 percent so we're running good to

[6:09] maintain that balance but also that does fluctuate down when we have those short

[6:16] Revenue months with sales tax again that has been through

[6:23] Good Financial review by the council and understanding how we're having to pull

[6:29] that in order to make ends meet in the general fund and that's all I really

[6:35] wanted to go over have any questions I can answer if not we'll move on

[6:43] anybody have a question or the financials there

[6:51] to make promotional Improvement second most has been made the second

[6:57] approve out of PE roll call please yes Miller yes yes Parker yes yes

[7:06] yes

[7:09] uh number eight public hearing public hearing to discuss proposed fiscal year

[7:14] 2023 2024 budget for the city of Lynn and City and Lindsay Public Work support

[7:22] this is not Tuesday required by law to have our public input

[7:28] or ask any additional questions we went through the review

[7:34] a couple hours or three I believe a couple of weeks ago

[7:39] and the bottom line is our general fund revenue revenue budget is approximately

[7:47] 3 are Lindsay Public Works budget is

[7:52] approximately 7.7 million um

[7:57] I did um

[7:59] as required in your budget packet if you bought it

[8:04] but you got your message identifying how those transfers were coming in and those

[8:10] things that really affected us this past year and helped us get back toward

[8:15] making uh the city of Lindsay Financial is stable

[8:20] in increasing those fund balances

[8:27] students

[8:32] I'm looking at um

[8:35] on the food bank we've got it to where now we've increased by 2000 so we're at

[8:41] ten thousand great ones I'm looking at asking for two more

[8:46] to go to the food bank you call us uh and if we have to take it from another

[8:53] social service

[8:56] simply because I talked to them at the food bank this past week they keep

[9:01] increasing and increasing and increasing we're just now beginning at the summer

[9:05] months kids are at home uh they could use the extra money they could use the

[9:10] food so they went from 250 a month ago to

[9:16] 312. so however we need to do that I'm I'm

[9:21] asking that we add to where it's a thousand dollars a month to the food

[9:25] bank rather than 10 000 for 10 months twelve thousand for a year

[9:38] chamber

[10:07] there's really no place other than they haven't built them

[10:24] I'm certainly not against that one thing the only question I've got a little bit

[10:28] is more of a legal thing

[10:34] and you might I don't know for sure if you show up there you have to show

[10:39] residency in the city of Lindsay it's out I mean I don't have any idea how it

[10:44] works so because I mean can anybody outside the city of Lindsay

[10:49] Justified of that from what I understand it I think that some people outside I

[10:54] really think we should make it for just residents I don't know how to work that

[10:58] I don't know how to do that I don't know how if they know how to do that I don't

[11:01] know I mean I'm just I'm looking you know a lot of hunters right wrong

[11:06] and illegal and I'm not not against the food bank in former fashion or doing

[11:12] that but I guess that's one question I might mention

[11:17] um I was going to have the City attorney review the existing contract in the

[11:22] contract does ask for account of

[11:27] what's inside what's out and there was a little struggle with that because of the

[11:32] error code I'll be the same and I would assume they just may have to

[11:38] ask for addressing and then just show that back to the city as

[11:43] you know that's how much and then that would evaluate probably next year's

[11:48] funding for you well most of our money may be going outside the county yeah

[11:53] that would just be something you might want to look at next year and

[11:58] um when City attorney reviews it you may

[12:03] add some language in there we'll have to review with them but they should

[12:09] submit those reports monthly and I think that states in that contract now but I

[12:14] haven't received any reports so

[12:19] we're kind of along those lines and my discussions with Janice I think you

[12:24] might you know once again look at the contractor

[12:28] I don't know if it's necessarily a problem but maybe we can do this to

[12:32] organize the Chamber of Commerce instead of through the city

[12:39] and then the food banks get allocated whatever funding it it felt would be

[12:46] necessary

[12:52] separate ourselves from those issues altogether

[12:57] but that'll be something after that that happened take a look at the conquer

[13:04] que so you're saying allocate money to the chamber and that money would then go

[13:09] out to the food bank or it would just be the chamber's

[13:13] response it would be the chambers responsibility to decide whether or not

[13:16] to fund the food bank but

[13:20] you know that's one way to fix any issues with there being public funds

[13:25] being allocated to you know outside of municipality

[13:31] of this personal amount to the food bank May included in the contract chairman

[13:36] yes I I I think it could I do want to kind of explore

[13:43] the language of that contract to make sure that it would be in line with

[13:47] allocations

[13:51] around about way but you know I'd be I'm a little concerned about

[13:56] somebody saying you know guys are feeding

[14:00] everybody in the three County I'm not saying we are I don't know if we are

[14:04] they still need it I'm not not even because that totally but you know it's

[14:08] you don't want to get in trouble right for that I don't know what the best way

[14:12] to do that is I don't know

[14:18] I think the question is uh additional funding for

[14:22] the food bank I mean or where to take that from

[14:28] correct

[14:30] yes

[14:41] could I don't know there's probably a bad idea I love science

[14:48] later time yeah

[15:03] you know we my father we've got more Revenue someplace with law or something

[15:09] be less than we thought but still I mean I think the intent would be that we're

[15:14] going to try to do it for sure but we'll look at

[15:19] well the main thing with him checking over the contract and stuff we can stick

[15:23] with what we've been trying to do is we're trying to do everything right

[15:25] yeah they're very you know A Better Way legally can do it you know we want to

[15:31] try to stay legal for sure so like you said right right wrong wrong

[15:36] it's definitely right to try to beat people

[15:43] yeah okay so any other

[15:47] issues with the budget now with the money that we

[15:52] allocate to the chambers do we are we just going to hand it to them

[15:56] or will we say this needs to be this this how are we going to do that are we

[16:01] going to designate it or are we just gonna do wood in that contract x amount

[16:07] or specific purposes I think the attorney to draw those up to meet those

[16:20] absolutely

[16:25] I'd like to bring up a item not bad

[16:35] brainstorming to retired and I made yourself a few notes

[16:41] that I noticed

[16:45] Vehicles being taken home by various Apartments

[16:50] we're talking budget right well that's part of the budget didn't you the police

[16:55] well

[16:58] yeah but I don't know that

[17:04] as far as an allocation of budget experiences

[17:11] budget allocations and funding for other City vehicles used by

[17:20] be appropriate under this discussion okay all right we'll go ahead because

[17:23] we're I mean we're good I think tell me I'm pretty sure EMS there's

[17:30] has taken home their vehicles uh you've got one in EMS you've got several

[17:37] employee support your Public Works drive vehicles home a department heads

[17:47] and that is my main concern is that that money that's going out for this

[17:54] I know it may not be much but anything that we can get back put on

[18:01] the bottom line you'd be better off

[18:05] instead of letting it uh let's say the that the game continues as a bit

[18:12] I I believe that the chief and probably fire chief

[18:20] it's okay for them to take a vehicle home but everybody

[18:25] else they got cars I think you think I do I think the biggest thing for having

[18:29] the department heads and whatever having their own big having a vehicle there is

[18:33] the response time if we have an issue I think it's the main right deal I mean I

[18:37] know like the electrical and the water department

[18:40] heads in if they have an issue they can call they can come right in rather than

[18:44] having them

[18:52] it's all about response time and a lot of communities

[18:59] give that right to those certain people responds also recruitment you know that

[19:06] helps your neighborhoods like to see a police

[19:09] car and parked in the driveway keep keep a little return down so there's a lot to

[19:14] reasons a lot of communities allow the vehicles

[19:18] in those areas particularly officers who are the ones

[19:23] who are going to be called back in emergency

[19:25] so as far as them taking them home and effect on the budget it is such a minute

[19:32] that we're giving is it worth that versus the morale that you're going to

[19:38] create by having them park at the station and then

[19:42] go to the station you just can't police officers can't operate that way you got

[19:47] a wreck down here they need you now they need everybody on the scene and you have

[19:52] to run down and get your car started probably might not start it might be one

[19:57] of those cold nights so it affects a lot of things and it becomes a public issue

[20:04] you know why aren't they allowed to take the borders home because he could have

[20:07] been there five ten minutes faster and I had somebody in that car I needed out to

[20:13] help with our officers in traffic control so it's a lot about response

[20:17] time Library councilman you're in a mentioned well I do know that if you

[20:21] live here in the city limits

[20:26] what five minutes 10 minutes if I'm 10 minutes on the vaccine is a long time

[20:31] well I realize that but I'm talking about the expense

[20:36] it's not necessary to lie there's a lot of people that functioned a lot of

[20:40] cities I'm from a few of them they don't let their people take them

[20:45] home and they do just fine and what I'm saying is we got people

[20:50] here our citizens here are scraping just to get by

[20:57] now should they Mark him out front let them run for two hours

[21:01] you know yeah leave it at home I mean leave it also gone too one of the

[21:07] factors is this is one of the swim benefits that they get yeah yeah they

[21:11] take less pay yeah and and we have trouble

[21:16] maintaining the amount of policeman that we need

[21:20] we start taking this stuff away from them

[21:24] then they're going to go somewhere where they can drive that car

[21:27] and and we're already down to three policemen and it's a it's a big time

[21:33] recruitment Factor if they're able to drive those cars home okay and it makes

[21:39] a difference

[21:41] well I guess I mean I can't

[21:47] I can't accept it myself personally because any money that we can save

[21:55] put back on the bottom line like my daddy always told me okay he saved as

[22:00] many years

[22:04] I mean that's I just wanted to lay that out there

[22:08] and one other item that it's budget that I'm concerned about

[22:15] is I know I've said it myself

[22:21] these the citizens that I've talked to

[22:27] they lack Trust what we're doing here

[22:34] and that's sad to say

[22:39] I think we should see if we can get the money

[22:46] to have dime clocks put in at all the department heads so all the people

[22:52] that's working for the city could be held accountable

[22:56] because more than one occasion they've been

[23:02] don't think they should have been doing so if you got time clocked there they

[23:09] got a clock in or they wouldn't have to account for it

[23:13] otherwise you're just taking the word for it

[23:18] that's reason I'd like to see time clocks in each department

[23:22] so did we not trust our employees I myself I don't trust very many people

[23:29] until I get to know them and I don't know any of the employees I

[23:34] mean not any of the department heads and stuff

[23:38] I don't even know any police officers

[23:45] I think too Don's a you know

[23:50] city manager has different department heads realizing

[23:55] if that department had it can't is not functioning within that

[24:00] framework of

[24:02] people sleep on the job or whatever or doing

[24:07] things you're not supposed to well it adds up to that that person I think to

[24:12] hold them accountable and say we need to get this done I I don't know that time

[24:18] clock is going to want to help that situation we're going to make them think

[24:22] a little bit more because I if I sign in if I sign in I'm going to look the way

[24:28] it goof off I'm sure we'll look forward to goof off you know what I mean before

[24:32] you signed in I've been a place where you didn't sign in some of the best

[24:35] employees I had were they forget to sign in I know that's that's not maybe

[24:41] acceptable when you have a situation like that but I think it's

[24:45] tough to because it

[24:47] you know I think it's kind of you're talking about trust that got the top

[24:52] he's got to be trusted by the city manager and then he's got to get

[24:56] developed that trust those people and then if I'm working for Josh and I'm not

[25:00] showing up on time Josh stays home me accountable for that

[25:03] and that's one thing I agree with you it's easier to tell whether somebody's

[25:08] on time or not and one thing you can just miss somebody for is not being on

[25:13] time it's pretty easy to do because it's a black and white you say okay you're

[25:18] close report to work at eight o'clock on Monday morning you can get here till 8

[25:23] 15. you're consistently late or whatever yeah other than toodles

[25:28] there you can host somebody accountable for that pretty easily because that's a

[25:34] that's a major you know manageable thing you can see and say that

[25:38] you know if the apartment had felt like that was a problem I think they

[25:42] how do they need to handle that situation because

[25:46] ultimately I think that would be the city manager to be able to work with

[25:51] those people and say hey we're we got a big problem here people are getting

[25:55] their their stuff done on a timely fashion and not reporting to work on

[25:59] time hopefully you'll see that poor city

[26:02] manager said it but if they didn't well then

[26:05] I told that person accountable at that point

[26:09] I'm not dealing with you I'll make them accountable I think that's a good idea

[26:12] but I I've been where we signed in when we didn't sign in and I I don't know it

[26:17] always helped yeah okay well I know like I said I've been

[26:22] all the years I've been out here uh not in Oklahoma but working

[26:31] nine blocks was everywhere you had to punch in if you went out to lunch you

[26:35] had to punch out uh that's pretty much commonplace

[26:40] I don't know I guess I've never done it before so it's

[26:44] tougher for me to to say but I haven't done that before

[26:48] I had to sign in one a couple of years you know but sign out

[26:54] okay well I just I wanted to bring this up for discussion because I want to be

[26:58] able to

[27:00] and if you watch this uh and study this when I go home if you see it's a problem

[27:06] I think we're bringing attention to the city manager and city manager to take it

[27:10] up with the program department head and say you know we've got this concern and

[27:15] we need to do some audience and feedback one way or the other find out what's

[27:20] going on

[27:27] various departments well not good yeah that's what we're

[27:31] doing right now there you go so as far as time clock goes that would be left up

[27:36] to us to where but where if we can put uh

[27:40] I don't know what the cost is I went that far yet that would be another thing

[27:46] it's got to do the cost and buy the time clock system right advantage and then

[27:51] you mentioned about a trust if we don't trust our city manager to trust the

[27:55] department heads to trust the guys they're working for

[27:59] where does it start and look it starts with it actually

[28:03] starts with us exactly so we have to trust that our people the people we have

[28:07] in charge are doing the right job and taking care of things I mean

[28:12] yeah but the biggest thing is you look at it now some mistakes were

[28:17] made in the past and we're trying to correct those

[28:21] mistakes which will not be solved overnight but we're punishing the

[28:28] employee because of the mistakes we've made in

[28:32] the past and I don't think that's the proper time right now to do it we need

[28:37] to get our house in order financially and and uh in a positive way

[28:44] and then if we feel like there's there's still a problem then we deal with it

[28:49] then right now we're asking the employees to try to correct the mistakes

[28:55] that we're making the past because that's just look at being a short time

[29:01] on this Council that's things that has been done I look at I think

[29:06] what were they thinking so but with the help of

[29:11] the interim hopefully the future that we've got our house in order and it's

[29:17] going to take three to four or five years before we get out of this thing

[29:21] and and having to distress and the anger of the employees is not where we want to

[29:27] be I mean you know and so and if if I see somebody that's you know sleeping in

[29:35] the vehicle a city vehicle I'm going to report it to the city manager and say

[29:40] can you addresses its situation there might be a maybe there's a legitimate

[29:45] reason for it I wouldn't think so but if there was you know that find that out

[29:50] and if not then they'll make appropriate steps to deal with that because my

[29:56] understanding is it's going to be business as usual

[30:01] unless we catch them in the act is that and that's with assume

[30:08] yeah I mean

[30:14] what I'd recommend on is that um

[30:18] me being here a year I haven't seen that to be a abused issue each department

[30:25] head will deal and has dealt with employees who are routinely late or

[30:32] arrived but also these same employees are not going to the shop they're

[30:39] meeting people on after hours when they're called out because you've got to

[30:43] punch in after hours that's going to be where it gets confusing and difficult to

[30:48] do because we respond so much after hours in all departments that's

[30:53] uh police fire public works so the time clocks are if we were a larger

[31:00] organization and you I mean we're small enough we pretty much know everybody's

[31:05] move during the day and when they have issues at night I know it whether it's

[31:12] water electric or accidents or whatever so time clocks right now I think moving

[31:18] forward that might be something just to assess uh with your concern and if it

[31:24] becomes a problem management should look at it and bring into life but at this

[31:29] time I don't see that as a big problem within our organization I'm in a car

[31:35] wreck I don't want somebody punch the clock I want to come get me you know

[31:38] whoever's there and the legions show up at the fastest possible and I know

[31:44] that's not the norm you're not made on data by day but you know at some point

[31:49] that's going to be somebody's going to catch on that and

[31:52] that I I'd rather be able to trust the guy to come get me and go out there

[31:58] because we big sign of one is there's an issue a problem electricity goes out we

[32:03] want the guys out there responding that fast if they can we want the fire

[32:08] department respond that fast EMS everybody else at least and I think

[32:13] that's the only way I know dude has have some

[32:17] positive again trust that individual that's doing that we need to replace the

[32:21] individual that's like doing the job directly there I don't just differ with

[32:26] you that everybody should do their job but I I think

[32:31] develop some trust if we're not getting it and you know individuals tell the

[32:36] city manager that let them deal with that individual find out why that's not

[32:40] being done anything else

[32:45] everything else is as we discussed part two

[32:54] a forward and uh we still have a ways to go so

[33:00] um else to add or change

[33:06] Okay so we've done this is

[33:10] we don't necessarily um

[33:15] I don't think

[33:18] yeah and look at in the future for a possible

[33:23] bugs also some nine no action and ten is the budget resolution basically that

[33:31] standard status resolution it gets your city

[33:35] manager the authority to make an apartment transfers

[33:39] between departments um

[33:43] and the authority to transfer between funds as approved in this budget so

[33:49] anything other than what's approved in this budget Council action will be

[33:54] needed to make any transfer between fines

[33:58] so we need to act on just to prove the resolution

[34:03] any motion for number 10 right

[34:09] and my commotion that we adopt the resolution

[34:13] 2023-03 fiscal year 2023 2024 budget second motion's been made the second

[34:21] roll call please wow no

[34:25] yes yes marker

[34:31] Delta is in this so I'm going to have to abstain

[34:34] bro yes Miller yes

[34:38] yes okay now we've got uh

[34:44] number 11 Society so calm citrusalem I'm sorry discussion

[34:50] consideration possible action to approved lease agreement to citricon

[34:54] policing for established new phones in All City at ltwa departments

[35:03] I understand the staff for a while um we don't have caller ID we drop calls

[35:12] it's staticky they're outdated they should be doing things like us

[35:17] transferring between departments they don't do that

[35:20] and addressing and looking at our Windstream Bill we're paying for a lot

[35:25] of those things that's not happening and I will let this is George Burke with

[35:31] uh T20 who has this uh program and explained the voice over IP the

[35:39] winstring bill and those kind of things right so the new the new voiceover IPS

[35:42] whatever the standard is now uh for the new phone systems that are coming out

[35:47] and uh basically you have internet provided already in all those locations

[35:51] that you're already paying a bill for on top of that you're paying a secondary

[35:55] transfer line that's actually doing on the old pots lines if you will on top of

[35:59] each one of those services so the phone system that was in

[36:03] there existing basically what we're what we're talking about is moving you into

[36:07] our what they call it ucas which is a unified communication application

[36:11] service and it makes it a whole lot easier for you to do those very things

[36:15] that she was mentioning such as the communication between each one of the

[36:19] Departments so the department has the ability to move from a phone call from

[36:24] one Department to another very quickly very easily all the conference calling

[36:28] all the voicemail things that are modern because they should have on that part

[36:32] though as well the cost savings is in here so it's not

[36:37] like we're asking for more money out of the deal either it's basically going to

[36:41] save you money in addition to having a brand new phone system put into place

[36:45] for you guys as well yeah this is a their phone's just

[36:51] affordable I mean it was I was here at ridiculous so I'll just tell you if you

[36:58] can get it done cheaper I just amen what you're saying because

[37:02] it yeah the

[37:05] oh the second she said the police department has

[37:08] 101 in East College has that is that the

[37:14] where the dogs are at

[37:20] out here or just all at the same time I apologize

[37:26] if the address is wrong that is on Neil okay okay I was really awful from the

[37:29] website so that's a perfectly okay

[37:35] but it is both locations yes the industrial complex well that

[37:40] that's what we went out too so I would not go to the other one though so okay

[37:44] so what we're doing are we doing funnel East upon at the dog pound or we just

[37:49] because I think I let them

[37:53] okay okay so with some modification that's just

[37:58] one phone so the phone basically it's a pretty easy phone to figure out on that

[38:03] part of it from the phone it's the physical phone for the system itself is

[38:06] 35 a month and that's goes but that's what you do everything right yeah that's

[38:10] if you have internet that's an important factor so that's right you have internet

[38:13] out there okay okay then we're good so I have to make sure I put that caveat out

[38:18] there before we go so approximately how much can we you think we can save but

[38:25] uh we reviewed all the Departments I mean we're down to almost twelve hundred

[38:32] dollars close I mean we're paying for some internet that's something I would

[38:36] recommend moving forward with it seems like we may be paying duplicate

[38:41] internets because Suddenlink is supplying us but we're getting billed by

[38:47] Windstream on Sun so those suddenlinks need to be reviewed that we're not being

[38:54] duplicated and I think he noticed to us there's a lot of fiber line and we're

[39:00] wondering why you're coming in a different way and Daryl uh probably will

[39:05] help us look at those when this thing starts being implemented so the I think

[39:12] the final is 1200 and something maybe at 35 on that other one uh

[39:19] are going to say let me I've got an example here

[39:27] EMS service your amount due is 540. I think the EMS service on that new deal

[39:33] is this is the windshield bill um I don't have that right in front of

[39:39] me so can you show me what the EMS will be

[39:43] charged on phone service now

[39:47] 1020. 128 so you see the difference and that just kind of will you be available

[39:54] what would cause we have issues or problems or difficulties how how

[39:59] accessible are you to provide service for us that's a great question so we

[40:03] have offices in more Tulsa and in the Oklahoma so we're all over the place for

[40:09] the 2018 admissions were constantly over the place

[40:14] oh yeah we run a two year four hour service that was better hardest to do

[40:19] that's that's a big deal to me I mean you know if you get a new phone system

[40:23] you know I get 10 cans and save us money I mean it's really pretty much what

[40:29] we're doing is plugging yourself I mean

[40:33] you guys have questions for him or this entire system is basically right correct

[40:40] and what happens

[40:44] so it's the same Principle as your phone system going down likewise or your your

[40:48] thumb lines go down it works the same and your internet usually is based upon

[40:52] those fibers which is really close to your same phone lines

[40:55] and I think that's why we need to take over an assessment of our internet

[41:00] connections and coming and going as well that's why I think there's some things

[41:05] that say just in case the system of them

[41:09] Communications that's kind of like right now we're hard

[41:14] line but I mean you're back into I mean I haven't seen this building in a long

[41:20] time we get billed for long distance calls

[41:23] that's very unusual in today's environment and the question I was going

[41:28] to ask you how many other municipalities do y'all serve or have y'all we serve

[41:32] approximately 12 in Oklahoma alone we serve 12 other municipalities in

[41:36] Oklahoma but we Nationwide because we've oh we've

[41:40] got probably 133 there were municipalities that we're working with

[41:43] including the City of Minneapolis so this is probably the largest one we just

[41:48] did that one yeah two years ago who are you doing in Oklahoma sports did

[41:52] Oklahoma would you wittywood the city of Winnie Wood Could you do the city of

[41:55] Thackerville would be the city of medical the city of

[42:01] uh Davis I'm trying to think of all the different names on some of those those

[42:05] ones like that so um but same size cities were very it's a very common

[42:10] place for us on that part as well Tishomingo

[42:14] as well Mr Mayor may I responders

[42:19] wearing uh my personal office uses a voice over

[42:25] Internet Protocol we have two internet providers in case one of them goes down

[42:29] we have backup I do know that currently we are negotiating to have drops at some

[42:36] of our buildings with respect to from one company and we can do that for

[42:41] another so that we can have that redundancy built to correct

[42:47] very effective for the dispatchery any other questions

[42:53] that you guys have or this is a year-to-year lease

[42:58] um explain that um so it's a basically every three years

[43:02] we're going to bring it in phones that's really what it boils down to so the

[43:05] phones really pretty we're gonna write it back in we're going to bring you some

[43:09] new phones and continue down that path that is still continues down that 35

[43:12] dollars is basically what we that's how we come

[43:15] so we're getting order from every basically everything and I might

[43:20] be wrong one of you since so don't hold me exactly 35 or maybe 35 53 or 34 45

[43:25] and it it has to do it because I know you guys just went down because you guys

[43:28] had I think she said something about two more phones from the library when we did

[43:31] that it actually dropped it down a few cents so I mean it's within uh 80 cents

[43:36] for an hour so

[43:39] um how long would it take months order and install and that transition done

[43:44] it's usually about a 30-day turn it'll be safe I would ask for 30 days usually

[43:48] realistically it was two weeks but how do you coordinate to coordinate that

[43:53] through the dispatch who you know can't be down during transition much or and

[43:58] that's exactly one of the that is one of the ones we definitely want to pay

[44:01] attention to as far as outside goes with some of the dispatch centers that we've

[44:04] actually

[44:07] as well for love County and for Marshall County and so what we have to do this we

[44:12] actually have to schedule a time set for those and say okay for the next few

[44:16] minutes make sure that you have the call to hold you wherever they need to be

[44:19] some of those dispatch that's what we're going to do to make sure the football

[44:22] origin is already put for those so my other question is like a power outage

[44:26] they don't have a generator out there those phones can be rolled over to some

[44:31] place out so your phone can go to your cell phone okay so that same desk phone

[44:35] that you have realistically can go to my like my auto I answer everything on my

[44:39] cell phone I don't like you call me you call my desk yes it rings at my desk but

[44:44] I'm never there so I'm I'm picking you up usually from my cell phone so it's

[44:49] the same application set because it is integrated best so anyone that would

[44:53] like for that part of it to be a functionality of it it's very simple

[44:56] thing to add it's just yeah and you would be you would come somebody

[45:02] will come and make sure everybody's accountable if you have questions all

[45:05] right how to do this I mean I'm sure it's relatively easy but still yeah

[45:10] for three years yes it is defensive so this

[45:16] what was it 12 90

[45:23] 1289 would now that'll be for the next three years that's what our monthly bill

[45:27] would be that's correct that's great the only way we go up or down is give you

[45:30] guys decided to get more phone support use less phones okay okay so I mean if

[45:34] all of a sudden you said look we don't cut the whole department out we don't

[45:38] need these phones any longer at the end of the year we don't need this to go

[45:41] away okay great no problem let's take those away any other questions

[45:46] so basically what we've been doing to be authorizing

[45:50] this new phone system if we vote Yes on this or move forward

[46:04] entertain a motion if nobody has any other questions make a motion picture

[46:09] send it lotion didn't make the second roll call

[46:13] please amen yes Miller yes Brad yes Brendan yes

[46:22] yes yes okay thank you uh

[46:28] neighborhood traffic concerns discussion consideration of possible action on

[46:33] status and methods controlled traffic concerns in certain neighborhoods

[46:39] um I was contacted initially regarding traffic using

[46:45] certain streets as a thoroughfare speeding I know we've had an accident in

[46:52] some of those areas there was I believe he was an officer kind of spearheading a

[46:58] move for Speed bumps and do those kind of things I've asked Chief Kraft to find

[47:04] you know what kind of traffic control or and ticketing that has occurred along

[47:11] those corridors and give us any feedback that or solutions that the police

[47:16] department could handle in giving us a direction to move towards

[47:22] I know speed bumps are there I know the neighborhoods

[47:26] of that for those who live in the neighborhood are a problem those who are

[47:32] speeding through is a cut through it is a deterrent so this item allows that

[47:36] discussion and asks questions among their Andy the chief

[47:43] baby come up and give us your idea or influencer

[47:51] the main concern I think is more on the street

[47:54] um several residents are called and wanted

[47:58] speakers and the reckless driving and we said we sat on the one on the tree

[48:04] trying to run traffic but the Martin police car slows them

[48:07] down so they don't have a whole lot of traffic on the street

[48:11] I think about pulled from January of this year to like today and we've only

[48:17] had eight contacts on that street residents have asked for that used to be

[48:22] a stop sign at uh attraction Jackson and and Winona

[48:29] and I don't know if that would slow it down or or what

[48:36] stop sign would you love the

[48:40] thoroughfare so that may be

[48:44] something to consider in that I think you would be

[48:49] a better option than speed bumps speed bumps or you know I was

[48:56] sitting in my position when they tried to speak bumps or talked about

[49:02] Speedy bulbs they went over like a screen door in a submarine I'm not

[49:06] saying they're not effective but the people

[49:10] in that area were

[49:16] I'm not saying we don't put them in until that that's that's kind of what

[49:20] we're talking about it's effective you know I guess what we need to do I

[49:25] don't know it

[49:27] it

[49:30] I know when I see a police car I slow down I don't care how fast I'm driving

[49:35] I'm driving below the speed limit I still slow down

[49:40] what about the uh you know in these construction types

[49:45] they got their little rights that when you drive by a fish

[49:51] you're speeding you'll let you know flashes yeah yeah and it's run by solar

[49:56] power yeah I was thinking the same thing

[49:59] something to wear with flashes actually slow down

[50:02] right I looked into speed bumps too I mean because I live on Francis it's the

[50:06] other cut through Street and the

[50:12] the kid that got hit by the car actually lives on my street and they play in the

[50:17] street I've been fearing this for a long time

[50:21] and it's not is young and old as far as various ages

[50:27] that

[50:30] I know of one lady that seemed like she probably just let off the brick and just

[50:33] coached it down the hill it was you know Sailing by the time you get to the end

[50:36] and down my fourth and Francis there's a lot of parking on each side

[50:40] and those little kids I've seen them run out and Chase a ball in front of me but

[50:47] I'm I drive a fairly tall truck uh

[50:51] my kids are grown now they're not there but I have grandkids and

[50:56] if Steve Jobs didn't uh the thing to do I'm just trying to think of something

[51:02] I mean I sent an email to everybody and I mean my thing was I like to be

[51:07] proactive rather than reactive I mean unfortunately we're being reactive

[51:10] at this point ultimately

[51:16] that's where the kids don't need to be playing in the streets but

[51:21] you you can't be everywhere you know to

[51:24] watch your kids I mean you try to be you can't protect your kids at all times

[51:28] because that's what as a parent you try to and uh

[51:33] well I think what like I said whatever works I think it's what we want to do

[51:36] because I don't know what that is for sure what I did I looked into some signs

[51:40] too like what you were talking about I was thinking of one

[51:43] there's one out there by Libby's at goldsby yeah I wasn't paying attention

[51:47] and I think it said really because I was going quite a bit too fast

[51:54] but you know some of them were some of them are a thousand or you know or

[51:59] quite a bit more expensive but like you said they're soldered so we wouldn't

[52:02] have to run electric to them but it would at least at night it would be

[52:05] something that they would see maybe during the daytime too but

[52:14] maybe in the middle somewhere yeah since there isn't anymore

[52:19] places to put shrimps on yeah well they come down off the hill I'll

[52:24] live next door to him and they come down off that hill on

[52:28] Francis and it's and even you know I've been guilty myself coming down and

[52:34] you're having slam on the brakes on that one stop sign but for the most part

[52:39] Jerry they slide through that and they're going 25 30 miles an hour then

[52:44] they get down where the kids are and you know I mean theoretically they

[52:49] need to keep their kids in their yard on there but they had bicycles they have

[52:54] scooters they have all these things that they're in the street

[52:57] so there's really no controlling of that so however we need to

[53:03] you know slow things down whatever we need to do then

[53:08] you know Francis is the is like the racetrack and and in Winona you know

[53:13] well you know it's more than seven three years I mean it's

[53:17] true even on Francis I had a couple of residents ask about installing the

[53:23] stocks on the seventh apprentices not so much for that but for the

[53:27] visibility over the no they just couldn't seem it really

[53:31] needs one there well now we've got one going east and

[53:34] west but it's just north and south yeah yeah well you could you can put those

[53:40] speed bumps in and they can be removed if you know and I'm I'm not saying

[53:45] that's that's just an option you know because that's what I was thinking of is

[53:48] the the rubber ones that way if it wasn't good we could take them up rather

[53:52] than doing something asphalt something more permanent yeah I think Brandon was

[53:56] telling me that all they got to do is screw them screw them down yeah

[54:00] I'm I'm up for anything you guys want to try and do

[54:06] I think there may be we might look at Grants somewhere I know in one Community

[54:11] they have a little portable uh signage like y'all had talked about and they

[54:16] move it to their problem areas and they set that up for a while and people get

[54:21] used to seeing that flashing and then move it to another area so it may be

[54:25] something to look into as far as funding a mobile unit like that helping other

[54:32] problem areas you also you know if you do put speed bumps out

[54:37] there and you quality to warn and you know I know that you're right but so you

[54:42] can put them out there but if I don't know or somebody doesn't know when they

[54:46] hit that speed bump and they're aggravated about I wish all they told me

[54:50] is speed bumps you know you had some signage possibly do yes to warn people

[54:56] sure would you your first recognition recommendation was Winona and friends or

[55:02] and uh Jackson Jackson will be good and give him the rifle and put a stop sign

[55:07] there and let the community see that they were

[55:11] we're trying to solve the problem then come back a month or two later and

[55:19] discuss more the speed bump at other spots because there might be other spots

[55:23] in town that we need to take a look at that you can be checking into yeah to

[55:28] see another spot I think on this outside it was they're saying something about me

[55:32] this stop sign yeah

[55:35] the the mobile side if it if you know the flashing side of it might be I don't

[55:42] know what it costs but I know fourth and Chickasaw it's I mean I drive in and out

[55:47] that that if you're going east and west everything's good but if somebody's

[55:52] coming from the North and South they might think you have a stop sign

[55:56] and you don't so it might be we put out a little bit more stops more four-way

[56:02] stops then that would break you know break it down a little bit more but if

[56:07] we go ahead and let him put stop signs up on Winona and Jackson then and I

[56:13] don't think young man lives right there or with grandparents live there so they

[56:18] could see that the city is doing something yeah

[56:22] maybe somebody can answer to this at one point in time

[56:27] seem to me like every intersection in Lindsay was a four-way stop pretty close

[56:31] it was and I don't know what the reasoning was to pull all these because

[56:36] when you did you just opened up a racetrack

[56:40] you know and you said something I mean some people don't stop but at least they

[56:46] slow down not many people they should stop don't get me wrong but slowing

[56:51] somebody down is at least better than nothing yeah not having even slowing

[56:55] down because they should stop and everybody should

[56:59] stop but both ways like the law says but even even the stop sign will will slow

[57:05] down somebody to treat it like a yield sign

[57:08] and I do realize too at one point in time I think this street right here from

[57:13] the fire station and stuff they've removed all of them so it was a quicker

[57:19] that was for the Emergency Services to get to the highway yeah

[57:23] I understand that but uh

[57:28] sure yeah the dips pretty much yeah well I think that's a good start to look at

[57:34] the stop signs and then see

[57:40] see see how that's working if it's not working well then we need to go inside

[57:47] two different things because we there's no way to explain to somebody

[57:52] I accidentally ran off your kid yeah you know oh that's that's just not not

[57:57] discussion anybody wants to have and and for us we want to make sure our bodies

[58:03] safe and protected so yeah I I wouldn't mind for you to sign out

[58:08] there where why not go down to 76 you get that little Hill right there

[58:16] because I've noticed when I'm not with yard mowing or whatever

[58:20] you know they come down

[58:24] around there there's a sign right there uh probably

[58:29] right at the curve of it

[58:34] okay be careful whatever

[58:38] what would do this give him the authority to put a couple stop signs in

[58:43] and then look and see what the option what like a flashing sign cost wise and

[58:49] you know and then also come back and report to us maybe next month or and

[58:54] then speed bumps see what maybe some people are doing uh

[59:00] and I'm not I'm not saying we don't do put speed limit I'm just telling you

[59:04] they're they weren't very popular but if it slows people down that's you know I

[59:09] make people mad at me before or something

[59:12] we'll get with the public works department and get some signs ordered

[59:16] and I think that need to be broke away and those kind of things and uh then we

[59:20] will if any further suggestions we will have them get

[59:25] installed in the proper locations and then then monitor the traffic in

[59:32] government we want to do something yeah

[59:37] okay uh

[59:40] I don't require any action so

[59:45] 13 inter local agreements Oklahoma Department Corrections discussion

[59:49] consideration possible action approved real estate and leasing Services

[59:53] interlocal agreement with Oklahoma Department of Corrections and Lindsay

[59:58] police departments uh we're getting a new contract it should be 23 24 it's got

[1:00:04] 22.23 but the uh individuals have an office upstairs in

[1:00:11] the police department uh with the Department of Corrections and I believe

[1:00:14] for several years so just a renewal of standard lease

[1:00:21] agreement motion debate the second throw call

[1:00:25] please wow

[1:00:28] hey

[1:00:31] um yes Brennan yes Parker yes

[1:00:36] yes yes

[1:00:39] 14 in our local agreement McLean County discussion surveys responsible action

[1:00:44] exclusive renewal of fiscal year 2023-2024 in our local agreement with

[1:00:51] McLean County for citizens from the city of Valencia

[1:00:55] uh one of these contracts and I can't remember which one switch uh the McLean

[1:01:01] County has indicated that they like two agreements signed basically showing us

[1:01:06] requesting assistance from them and them are requesting assistance from us so

[1:01:11] both of these two items are the same just

[1:01:14] doing what their attorney wants them to do

[1:01:19] okay would you would you act on separate though I guess yeah so 14 we get a

[1:01:24] motion don't make emotionally improve

[1:01:29] say roll call please

[1:01:33] yes Miller yes yes Mark yes Paul yes hello yes 15 interlocal

[1:01:43] agreement claimed accounting discussions to the rest of possible action to

[1:01:47] approve the renewal of fiscal year 2023-2024 in a local agreement with

[1:01:52] Proclaim County for assistance to the city of Lindsay

[1:01:56] make a motion remove the do accept the inner local agreement with one client

[1:02:01] County second May the second roll call please wow yes

[1:02:06] yes

[1:02:09] Barker yes yes Miller yes and then yes 16 Cemetery contract discuss

[1:02:16] consideration possible action to approve review of the independent contractor

[1:02:20] agreement with uh Mani Seltzer to provide for the opening and closing of

[1:02:25] Graves and for overseeing funeral services for the term of one year

[1:02:30] beginning July the first two thousand twenty three

[1:02:33] I believe this is a standard agreement the city has entered into for several

[1:02:37] years

[1:02:43] second motion to make second roll call please amen yes Miller yes true yes

[1:02:50] Parker yes good afternoon yes Paul yes hello yes

[1:02:55] 17 dealt to a community action lease renewal discussion consideration

[1:02:59] possible action to approve the renewal for the lease agreement with Delta

[1:03:04] Community Action foundation on 308 Southwest Center

[1:03:08] again I think it's

[1:03:12] a singer so I recommend approval

[1:03:18] Monday

[1:03:21] motion has been made second roll call please wow yes oh yes yes Parker for

[1:03:28] staying Riley yes Miller yes and then yes

[1:03:33] 18 ordinance number to 573 discussion is the race impossible action and our

[1:03:38] possible Amendment regarding ordinance number 573 and ordinance amending the

[1:03:44] retirement system defined benefit plan for the city of Lindsay Oklahoma by

[1:03:49] providing a special retirement option for eligible employees EMS director

[1:03:53] based on the age and years of credited service of such employees providing for

[1:03:59] a very PE and declaring an emergency

[1:04:05] this is similar to what we entered into in the fall with some other employees so

[1:04:09] I recommend we approve the ordinance and

[1:04:14] at the early retirement to be effective July

[1:04:18] promotion to approved second motion's been made the second roll call please

[1:04:23] amen yes yes

[1:04:26] Parker yes yes oh yes well yes 19 emergency Clauses custom celebration

[1:04:35] possible action the past emergency clause for ordinance number 573.

[1:04:40] time is up the essence I recommend we approve the emergency clause

[1:04:46] you'll make a motion that we approve second motion's been made in second

[1:04:51] we'll call please wow yes oh yes yes Miller yes amen yes 20 Executive

[1:05:02] sessions discussion consideration possible action the enter executive

[1:05:05] session of 25 Oklahoma State section 07 B1 discussed employment and iron of a

[1:05:11] city manager trust manager Mr Jance solid James

[1:05:18] but as we go into executive possession

[1:05:23] motion's been made in second roll call please amen yes Miller yes yes yes yes

[1:05:32] Paul yes wow yes

[1:05:41] yeah

[1:05:47] I thought you were but I want to make sure

[1:05:50] sign of me

[1:06:52] foreign

[1:19:02] all right

[1:19:11] all right need a motion to reconvene from the

[1:19:17] executive session

[1:19:25] roll call please well

[1:19:30] yes here yes Green in yes Parker yes yes

[1:19:43] um

[1:19:46] okay then we need to do this exercise discussion uh

[1:19:54] actually 22. okay discuss consideration possible action on

[1:19:59] any matter discusses excession on the employment hiring at city manager slash

[1:20:03] trust manager Mrs James any

[1:20:11] well I'd like to get uh clarified on something

[1:20:16] and it don't make sense to me at all I got too much time my hands I've Been

[1:20:22] Told uh

[1:20:26] she is getting uh

[1:20:30] getting car allowance if I'm understanding that correctly

[1:20:35] yes and you had access to that knew that

[1:20:39] right well now this last I've been once I got on this

[1:20:45] I had the time to study it

[1:20:49] and that's another part that is not normally out there

[1:20:55] it is yeah most most cities don't get their city manager a vehicle to drive

[1:21:03] in our case we opt out to pay an allowance so we don't have to buy a

[1:21:08] vehicle we don't have to provide the insurance and everything that goes along

[1:21:12] with it it's a better deal for us

[1:21:16] to pay a stack for car Lounge than it is to purchase

[1:21:22] the vehicle along with the insurance and everything the maintenance and

[1:21:26] everything that goes along with okay well that does kind of make sense

[1:21:32] what you're saying uh I'm not familiar with all that

[1:21:38] so this might be an Oklahoman I mean I'm from Back East so it's an

[1:21:45] entirely different world back there

[1:21:51] um but I was concerned

[1:21:54] and also her having three months I'm not clear on when the pay would

[1:22:02] start

[1:22:05] I spoke with uh Ray there you said if you start we think it starts

[1:22:12] when she signed on the dotted line on the contract

[1:22:17] contract reason right July 1st okay now they only live an hour

[1:22:25] from here right

[1:22:28] so why are we giving her that much leeway expressionally since in the past

[1:22:36] well actually what are you talking about you ever heard it too much to move into

[1:22:42] the district it takes time to find a home dog and

[1:22:48] compared to the past where they've had years and

[1:22:53] to find the house three months is pretty restrictive that's pretty quick I mean

[1:22:57] by the time we find them I've already got a house

[1:23:01] this goes through I'll have one on Friday so I will be here quicker than

[1:23:06] that okay

[1:23:09] um

[1:23:11] that was a concern didn't understand it

[1:23:15] yeah like I'm the newest guy here I believe

[1:23:20] one person when I don't understand something

[1:23:25] I could really use the same experience say yes or no I can't vote on something

[1:23:32] if I don't understand what it's about all right and when I go to when I go

[1:23:40] talking to the people out there they're not on the door and ask them you know

[1:23:43] how they doing and find out what the concerns are and whatnot they ask you

[1:23:48] questions I said well this is what's coming up I really don't know what it's

[1:23:51] about

[1:23:53] yes I need to go to class to explain all this stuff

[1:24:01] Don it's going to be a learning curve for a lot

[1:24:06] probably your first term you're going to feel good about your second term knowing

[1:24:10] what you need to know it takes that long it's not you it's just that long there's

[1:24:15] lots to learn so just ask the questions and um

[1:24:21] move forward so it's I think you're going to training in June I think that

[1:24:28] will help you back out so ask any questions is what you need to do but

[1:24:33] everything's you know is being presented to you and always

[1:24:37] feel free to come in the manager's office and ask questions prior to

[1:24:41] honestly it's taken I mean speaking of myself it's taken this whole year for us

[1:24:47] for me to get somewhat comfortable with the decisions we make yeah I mean that's

[1:24:51] why a lot of times I lean on Josh just to make the motion because he

[1:24:56] words it right and all I got to say is second

[1:24:59] and because sometimes I just say yo let's just patch number 14. and because

[1:25:04] Josh that Josh has been here for several years

[1:25:09] it'll it'll come in time and you'll be all right it just takes a little bit of

[1:25:12] time well yesterday I had three reason that

[1:25:16] the other part is the fact that we've got I mean with janison here

[1:25:20] giving us all this stuff that lines everything out you just like he was

[1:25:24] talking about having trust having trust that somebody's doing their job to give

[1:25:27] us the right information to say yes or no and it's

[1:25:33] a lot of cases from the Bible with the stuff

[1:25:37] okay anything else entertaining motion

[1:25:44] a few more questions no

[1:25:49] I'm good all right I'll make a motion to approve the agreement

[1:25:53] we're going to start with July 1st of 22-3 seconds

[1:25:57] roll call please

[1:26:05] yes Miller yes yes yes yes oh yes yes

[1:26:13] okay uh objective says and discuss the duration of possible action entered the

[1:26:17] executive session at 25 Oklahoma State section 307 B4 for confidential

[1:26:23] communication training Council on the attorney concerning Garden County case

[1:26:27] number CV 2387 at the public body with the advice

[1:26:34] of his attorney determines that disclosure will seriously impair the

[1:26:38] ability of the public body to conduct the pending litigation in the public

[1:26:43] interest

[1:26:53] the advice of council that we go into executive sessions make a motion

[1:26:59] to do so second we'll call please well

[1:27:04] yes oh yes yes Barker yes Perez yes Miller yes yes

[1:27:17] thank you

[1:45:05] are turning them

[1:45:09] okay it's a good break time

[1:45:19] it's so pretty

[1:45:28] hey Josh had run for the restroom may be right

[1:45:32] back

[1:45:36] I said that one pump record

[1:45:50] uh

[1:45:58] pretty cool

[1:46:21] foreign

[1:46:28] motion to return from the executive session cut the motion

[1:46:36] say it again motion made second roll call please amen yes Miller Miller yes

[1:46:42] yes Barker yes yes oh yes hello yes

[1:46:50] there were 26 now correct yes governing board comments anybody

[1:46:56] have any comments yeah well I'd like to bring up a issue

[1:47:02] here again it's

[1:47:05] it's it is this is a budget thing do we have any assets

[1:47:15] that is just sitting collecting dust or whatever

[1:47:20] it can be sold and money

[1:47:25] put in the funds to cover expenses yes that's something that we

[1:47:30] probably there there's some land and stuff out there that and there's some

[1:47:34] buildings that we've we've allocated to make sure we're doing the right thing I

[1:47:38] think that's we've kind of held off because we got the look and try to sell

[1:47:44] that old dump property up there and we got

[1:47:47] the pipeline so we held off on that and kind of reevaluating to see and I think

[1:47:54] that's we're trust that

[1:47:57] new advice we're getting for that but what about the golf course

[1:48:03] because I spoke with Janice and he informed me that

[1:48:10] the airport is

[1:48:14] almost functioning on its own Golf Course or Airport

[1:48:21] now the golf course is not self-susting

[1:48:28] and that's bleeding our budget yeah and I think that needs to be looked

[1:48:34] into and the decision brought up in a meeting and voted on those options are

[1:48:40] being explored as interest comes to the table and when that

[1:48:45] formulates it will brought to the can be brought to the council when that occurs

[1:48:52] when if it occurs when or if it occurs okay well

[1:48:58] as of now it's cautious

[1:49:05] money that we don't have

[1:49:09] and the bottom line is like you said there's a lot of citizens out there

[1:49:13] that's had a really rough time and here we are

[1:49:18] supporting a golf course that's not paying for itself

[1:49:23] to me it's just simple math there's more to it than that we're we're

[1:49:29] looking at that we're looking at other options and we're trying different

[1:49:32] things and there may be but you're you know maybe we're both to

[1:49:36] we know what the best option is but we need

[1:49:39] you know you no saying better looking for your league Still Waters Run Deep we

[1:49:42] want to make sure we make the right decision because like I was going to

[1:49:46] hold it sell the that old dump out there and then a kind

[1:49:49] of cool my judge what if I never get in that pipeline across there and you know

[1:49:54] we'll make sure we're making the best decision for long term because sometimes

[1:49:59] it'll be a page two to it and there's some information that we need to make

[1:50:03] sure we're aware of and or not maybe we don't know what's going on and we need

[1:50:07] to do that I'm not saying we don't and I'm not just giving you nobody's going

[1:50:11] to tell you the golf course is making money you don't think there's a plan to

[1:50:14] turn around overnight but we need to look and do some detail planning on it

[1:50:21] it's going to take some some some planning on it I think for sure

[1:50:25] well I'm assuming this has been going on for since I've been here the golf course

[1:50:29] never supported himself and it's always nice

[1:50:34] it's kind of like the swimming pool it doesn't support itself well that's a way

[1:50:38] of life it's just it's quality of life that's a good point what he said

[1:50:43] but I will go to fight four the park here again it's for the kids

[1:50:53] part of the same trust yeah the golf course and the parking development I

[1:50:58] don't know yet I've been

[1:51:06] I don't know what the best option is I don't think we decide right now I think

[1:51:11] we need to make sure we know all the ins and outs and yeah we're going forward I

[1:51:14] agree we need to look at it again I've the golf course is not an overnight

[1:51:21] problem it's been there for a long time it's a good thing

[1:51:25] but it's also expensive thing so I I don't know we'll we need to look at what

[1:51:31] is the best option how we can if we can increase revenues or if we do something

[1:51:35] different that's that's we need a little bit more time to look at I I'm everybody

[1:51:40] would agree that we want to quit losing money one of the things you'd have to

[1:51:45] look at is negative 18-0 course

[1:51:49] and that would take a substantial amount of money

[1:51:52] and investment to do and whether we want to do something like

[1:51:57] that or maintain what it is or you know but you

[1:52:03] you look at within a 20 mile radius there's probably four or five 18-0

[1:52:08] courses that people can go to so

[1:52:12] that's what you're looking at you want to put it up here by Bill will

[1:52:18] kill this I mean that's that's kind of it's it's a tough tough call but we need

[1:52:23] to look at it because it we'll close it tomorrow I promise you

[1:52:29] you'll get some feedback and a lot of it and I'm not saying that we

[1:52:34] someday it may close someday it may we may do something different we may figure

[1:52:38] out a better option we need some time to look at it because that's a that's a

[1:52:42] problem it's it's not going away but we need to figure out the best way to

[1:52:47] address it I'm not I wouldn't be prepared to not promote for sure or

[1:52:51] anything we couldn't vote anyway

[1:52:56] but uh I just want to kind of steer us back on track make sure that we get any

[1:53:01] other governing board comments yeah anybody got anything else yeah I did

[1:53:06] yeah I looked over the vehicle list that we

[1:53:12] got about a month ago and I noticed that

[1:53:16] EMS and Fire have they both have the ATVs and they both have drones

[1:53:23] but our Police Department doesn't have any

[1:53:28] so my question is could we not transfer one of the ATVs in one of the drones

[1:53:35] to the police departments there's two down at EMS and fire so they've got two

[1:53:40] house down there can we not take one put it up for the PD to use the drones for

[1:53:46] the PD to use and then leave one down here for EMS and fire I will look at

[1:53:52] that and talk with Miss Jansen she's hearing this so it's something to

[1:53:56] consider any other comments

[1:54:02] do we have any present plans or have you

[1:54:07] thought about the surplus vehicles we do have without getting those prepared for

[1:54:12] those need to be gathered along with some other City equipment that the

[1:54:17] Departments are gathering up to declare Surplus and probably on your July

[1:54:21] Meeting those Vehicles will be in that along with an other list because it's

[1:54:27] building up and it's time to have an option or start

[1:54:33] disposing of them through other ways of selling them so

[1:54:38] July should be a time to bring those items for Declaration of so

[1:54:44] close Okay and could you give us an update on the pipeline

[1:54:48] um they had not started they had not contacted me they have paid made that

[1:54:52] payment so we're just in the agreement I think

[1:54:57] the agreement a lot of them don't start within two years then

[1:55:01] you know the easement goes away so but I have not been contacted by one else to

[1:55:06] get on the road how about the water meters are they

[1:55:12] is it just about ready to yeah I'm going to kind of review oh I'm sorry no you're

[1:55:17] good that way any other comments before she I turned over to her

[1:55:23] I just wanted I want to thank you for helping us out

[1:55:27] for that this past year yeah Amen to that thank you your experience has been

[1:55:32] valuable to us it's been fun but not fun at times but I'm sure it was it was good

[1:55:37] to be back in Lindsay and seeing some people there mad

[1:55:41] 20 plus years ago and uh so Lindsay always has a special place for me so I

[1:55:47] appreciate all your efforts and you know helping me get through some of those

[1:55:50] difficult times so it's been enjoyable it's amazing since he's only 25 years

[1:55:55] old

[1:55:58] okay uh go ahead and give us your comments

[1:56:02] let's say manager I've kind of written it out but I'll kind of have lived here

[1:56:06] the audit uh is ongoing uh Steph has been busy pulling documentation as

[1:56:11] requested from our audit team which is HBC out of Chickasha that's our audit

[1:56:18] team uh they're working on 21 staff is still working to get those

[1:56:24] records pulled they will be on site June 20th and 21st to review those

[1:56:29] documentation and uh pull any other information they may see fit once they

[1:56:37] get through those items um

[1:56:41] 21 and 22 financials are we're looking for some agreements that can't be found

[1:56:47] those should be submitted to the audit firm here within the next few weeks I

[1:56:53] anticipate your audit should be given to you July maybe but it could be August

[1:56:59] but at least we see the light at the end of the time we do have a draft of the 21

[1:57:06] but until the auditor presents these to you guys at a meeting those will remain

[1:57:13] in that draft form until that is reviewed with you

[1:57:17] um

[1:57:19] the meter installation we have been having team meetings this month or the

[1:57:24] last couple of weeks we've got our base station Daryl has worked on that where

[1:57:29] we've done some test metering and it is reading with the electric we've

[1:57:33] installed an electric meter I believe Thursday they will be in town installing

[1:57:40] um another water meter at two addresses we've chosen to the employees because

[1:57:45] they're easy access and we they can get in and check to see their reading

[1:57:49] capability they will PMI is the construction

[1:57:54] installation contractor they will be in town starting on Monday we will have a

[1:58:00] team meeting to kick off when we know the area that they're beginning

[1:58:05] we've got been given samples of news releases we'll do some social media

[1:58:10] posting because they will be in that area people will be affected with water

[1:58:16] turn offs when they do the can meter can and the water meter with the water meter

[1:58:23] can installation included in this they're only going to be able to do

[1:58:28] anywhere from 10 8 to 10 a day so that's going to be kind

[1:58:33] of slow but we'll also have to encourage our residents to when that water's off

[1:58:39] run your water because you could get some discoloration they're also going to

[1:58:43] help us do what we're required to do from DQ

[1:58:47] lead and copper testing so when they're on site pulling those meters out we're

[1:58:52] going to test not test we'll identify the customer line whether it's lead or

[1:58:58] copper and whether we have to note this and turn all this information to DEQ

[1:59:03] that has to be done by 2024 so they're going to help and while they're there

[1:59:08] they're doing latitude longitude they're doing pictures it's going to be very

[1:59:13] informational as they progress electric meters are still running behind we have

[1:59:19] a few they're hoping like summer once they get in they'll start installing

[1:59:24] those electric meters will be very quick the water meter and water meter cans is

[1:59:30] going to be a slower process well well somebody somebody's going with them or

[1:59:34] at least checking there as they go and make sure that because I know that was

[1:59:38] what I was told the last time Josh you might remember the nightmare they put

[1:59:44] some on the south side of town it should have been on the North and

[1:59:47] different areas yeah they are going to um

[1:59:52] uh what they call marry those meters into the system while they're on site so

[1:59:57] that will be done on site um the

[2:00:02] um

[2:00:06] the I think it's a mismatched agenda the

[2:00:11] taller technologies will bring all of that data in and take all of our old

[2:00:16] data into their metering system so it's it's kicking off so

[2:00:25] um the um installers will be hanging door

[2:00:30] hangers they'll be making customer contact before they disconnect so but we

[2:00:36] are going to have cruises we are limited Crews so we're our Brandon's going to

[2:00:40] try to uh because you we may have three construction Crews I mean hopefully the

[2:00:45] more construction installers they bring to Town the faster we can move so we're

[2:00:50] going to be on top of that and uh then we'll have training in-house in order

[2:00:55] how to retrieve and gather that data as well so back to the land of the copper

[2:01:02] so if you have a homeowner that has led piping what's going to be done for them

[2:01:09] and it's already held for the um the representative from DEQ has

[2:01:15] indicated there could be funding coming down for them

[2:01:19] um you know that's going to present issues

[2:01:22] for the city in some areas of town yeah so we're going to have to figure out as

[2:01:28] that is identified and get with DQ and they can help us

[2:01:34] identify homeowner funding because we know a lot of them cannot afford to

[2:01:39] replace those lines so that is a good question and that is going to be an

[2:01:45] option that we need to be pursuing to have ready for when

[2:01:49] I don't know the time frame the EQ has given us to mandate that of course their

[2:01:55] issue is to us and this is tough what they don't then just disconnect them

[2:02:00] that's tough to do yeah

[2:02:04] that's something that needs to be working on as this thing progresses

[2:02:08] where the DEQ is going to provide something into the homeowners

[2:02:13] um the EMS uh we have as you know uh we

[2:02:20] have a vacancy and Brian Davis will be filling in as acting director while we

[2:02:26] um he will be on a shift and remain on the

[2:02:30] truck um also we're going to be doing some

[2:02:33] assessments with Consultants coming in there within the next couple of weeks

[2:02:37] not from our perspective but from the Lindsay Municipal Hospital perspective

[2:02:41] they are aware of that and that information gather will begin and then

[2:02:48] we'll be advertising for uh in as director start internally in Nevada

[2:02:56] if we need one thing that's very critical that's

[2:03:00] going to come up is past due counts of existing

[2:03:06] excuse me that has uh can I ask you one question

[2:03:12] it's my understanding in the paperwork we've got and everything we

[2:03:17] have 10 full-time EMS that's what it is and we have nine part-time

[2:03:24] we have not had anybody dismissed or terminated we have not dismissed or

[2:03:30] terminated anybody okay I just want to put that out there so the Public's

[2:03:34] informed all right yeah is that are they is that fully staff no they're not

[2:03:39] really staffed uh they're still short on shift

[2:03:44] um and recruiting is difficult it's not that they're not trying and we have that

[2:03:49] many part-time that they don't always take the shifts when we

[2:03:53] so they do and are trying to offer those holes in their shifts to those part-time

[2:04:00] if not then a full-time will have to do that to keep two ambulances running yes

[2:04:07] and that's the difficult part right there

[2:04:10] um but I think it's going to be a little while on the new ambulance I think the

[2:04:15] county is still receiving bids if September October

[2:04:20] I was informed over there that that's doable for them they're not hurting

[2:04:24] there's no equipment breakdown that's gonna no I'm saying that or not so

[2:04:33] um we've got it covered until we find a solution on oversight and management and

[2:04:40] also some Solutions on departmental operations from outside sources

[2:04:45] uh the pasture balances we still have active accounts that have large

[2:04:50] balance is owing the ladies are attempting to collect but it's at the

[2:04:58] point where there's some who are just ignoring us and their bill continues to

[2:05:04] grow so starting in probably

[2:05:08] um take the hit this time

[2:05:12] there will be some people disconnected after they've been asked and we've tried

[2:05:17] to call no answer they're ignoring us your bills now up to three thousand

[2:05:22] dollars it's time to pay so uh I'll be helping

[2:05:27] taking some of those actions in this round of cutoffs

[2:05:32] those are those things will come up as audit issues

[2:05:37] um dumps and fiber Network work they have contacted us to enter into a

[2:05:42] right-of-way agreement and a poll agreement

[2:05:45] City attorney is looking at those they want to put fiber to every home so they

[2:05:51] want to come in and uh we get those agreements done

[2:05:57] they'll their planning process right now they're planning and they would like

[2:06:01] these agreements to be worked uh their goal they have several packages

[2:06:06] um I can give you their PowerPoints at some point if you'll be interested

[2:06:10] that's affordable but if you really need high speed a lot of data you know you've

[2:06:15] got something else to think for tiers to do that

[2:06:20] so that's a good thing that's going to be coming down the pipe as well uh I

[2:06:26] passed out a packet of information on a training I attended with the state

[2:06:31] auditor and uh actually our former attorney Amanda Mullins did the

[2:06:36] presentation along the open meeting open records I thought that'd be informative

[2:06:40] is pretty interesting on what some cities do to go to jail

[2:06:52] uh July 1st or the fireworks events going on and staff will be helping with

[2:06:59] them we still have vacancies um working in this director uh we have

[2:07:06] an interim police chief uh we'll be advertising towards cheese accident

[2:07:11] that'll be your new managers decisions moving forward on those vacancies to the

[2:07:16] clerk is still available and we're still looking we're always looking for

[2:07:21] dispatchers and paramedics and the MTS and all of those other things so that's

[2:07:26] all I have them

[2:07:33] yes

[2:07:45] okay the lpwa agenda called immediate order roll call please

[2:07:59] here hello here here here

[2:08:09] uh number three percentage Jimmy disgusting consideration possible I

[2:08:12] actually on the same agenda to follow the items are considered routine by the

[2:08:16] lazy Public Works Authority and will be enacted with one motion discussion

[2:08:20] desired on any item that Adam will be removed from consent agenda and

[2:08:24] considered separately if I wish anything be removed

[2:08:37] question is a second second roll call please

[2:08:43] amen yes yes yes

[2:08:50] yeah yes number four consideration of items going on five excuse me bid notice

[2:08:58] 2023-02 substation geotechnical studies custom consideration possible action on

[2:09:04] bids proposals received forbid notice 2023-02

[2:09:10] uh Lindsay geotechnical testing for three locations and renominate to engage

[2:09:18] amri testing for fifteen thousand one hundred fifty two dollars as the least

[2:09:24] bid due to the number of foreigns uh that is not the low bid the low bid

[2:09:31] is 14 4 however we recommend we go to am aim right testing due to uh they have a

[2:09:40] total of 12 warrings uh and the other had a total of six so for 752 dollars

[2:09:46] we're going to go with the uh 12 coins and

[2:09:52] that is total this is a lot cheaper than we've anticipating so

[2:09:58] to make a motion to approve aim right testing

[2:10:02] second motion second roll call please yes

[2:10:07] yes yes Parker yes around yes no no yes yes six

[2:10:14] collar Technologies discuss consideration possible action to enter

[2:10:18] into agreement with Tyler Technologies encode billing information software for

[2:10:23] Mass meter swap for electric and water

[2:10:27] accounts in the amount of twenty three thousand nine thirty dollars with three

[2:10:32] thousand dollar fee be reoccurring annual expense

[2:10:35] uh this was brought to our attention and need on one of our meetings uh this is

[2:10:40] within our spending my spending limit that I did want the council to be aware

[2:10:44] of this and acknowledge the approval of this this is basically taking all your

[2:10:50] customer data your meter numbers everything and transporting them over

[2:10:55] into the new system it's electric and water and then that's

[2:11:01] a bulk of data that is going to be used in that and this is we've set this up

[2:11:08] and I think Lisa's been working on a lot of information on this

[2:11:13] um with UTS who they're technology person is is helping us get

[2:11:19] that done I recommend you go ahead and approve that and acknowledge that being

[2:11:25] done we first year we had to pay the three

[2:11:29] thousand dollars or is it just start a second here

[2:11:32] I know it's 23

[2:11:36] 930.23 is with the three thousand billionaire okay so we would

[2:11:42] the next year we'd start with three thousand dollar fee okay and this was

[2:11:47] not covered in the end alarm documentary okay

[2:11:54] any other questions or entertain a motion I'll make a motion to approve the

[2:11:58] agreement Technologies to pay the 23930 and then

[2:12:02] three thousand one of Amen

[2:12:07] second motion seconds been made roll call

[2:12:11] please yes Miller yes Brad yes Mark yes

[2:12:16] yes wow yes water plant discuss

[2:12:21] consideration possible action to authorized to seek bid for the water

[2:12:24] plant on carbon replacement

[2:12:33] the purpose of this I believe this was added to the plan after it was

[2:12:37] constructed is to remove the discoloration taste

[2:12:45] undesirable taste odor and foam in the treatment process this will run 70 80

[2:12:53] 000 plus maybe more right how long does that yeah

[2:12:59] um I know that's quality a question well

[2:13:03] some say it should be good for 10 years but we're doing it about every 34 years

[2:13:09] I think they did it right as soon as I got gotten office I think we did last

[2:13:14] time

[2:13:17] before we started but that was one of the first things because of the water

[2:13:22] we're dealing with

[2:13:26] because this was added after that plant was built

[2:13:32] so it's something you've got to do it's my understanding it basically

[2:13:37] you got to yeah well you said we're not gonna ride

[2:13:43] well that's part of the 4 000 a month that is transferred over into the uh

[2:13:50] it's not the infrastructure fund but it's for the water plant and I think

[2:13:54] there's about 90 000 maybe by the time we bid we may wipe it all out so that

[2:13:58] that would be used in that

[2:14:04] make a motion to authorize you're getting bids

[2:14:08] those have been made second roll call please wow yes

[2:14:13] Paul yes yes marker yes Rome yes Miller yes yes uh number eight governing uh

[2:14:23] board comments any comments

[2:14:31] well I would not I wouldn't mind understanding a little bit more

[2:14:36] uh within form that we

[2:14:41] are in as far as the deficit goes where our budget we're in the black correct we

[2:14:49] will in year in June 2023 in the black there will be no deficit spending we

[2:14:57] have made budgeted amendments such as supplement in order to cover any

[2:15:03] ovary brand and transferred that around we're good for this year you've got some

[2:15:09] past years that need to be addressed those if we end with the fund balance

[2:15:15] they will Whittle away that deficit from previous years

[2:15:19] uh I think in the next few months Mr Crawford will come to your meeting and

[2:15:25] discuss in more detail of

[2:15:28] many questions you've had so this year we ended we stayed within our budgetary

[2:15:33] uh guidelines and what we're voting on now that's

[2:15:39] that's already covered in the budget well you just voted on yeah

[2:15:44] you're moving into a new year beginning July 1. everything's projected I mean

[2:15:49] you you're you're making you're guessing but educated guess how much money we're

[2:15:54] going to spend in all those departments you know you've got some facts and

[2:15:58] figures May settle them but there's no I mean it's you can't you can't in theory

[2:16:04] you can't spend more than that if you do you have to come back to the

[2:16:08] yeah come back to the council Council and do a supplement Amendment your sales

[2:16:13] tax starts dropping you need to watch what you're spending and your management

[2:16:17] will keep you informed of that process or need or your monthly financials

[2:16:23] you're getting we had some emergency

[2:16:28] you know we may you don't want to do that but that could

[2:16:33] happen you know and you just you know you say well we don't want to spend any

[2:16:37] more money you know there's there are sometimes

[2:16:40] yeah well people like water at their house and

[2:16:46] you know sewer systems and stuff you know that this just kind of sometimes

[2:16:50] you got to do those things but it's what we've got to out right now the money

[2:16:53] that we've approved is for next year basically

[2:16:59] is that correct that's correct okay any other questions or concerns or

[2:17:04] comments I just like to thank this lady right

[2:17:09] here guys I'm telling you we were in a difficult situation

[2:17:16] she pulled over fat out of the fire and they were not there yet but

[2:17:20] we're a lot better off than we were and and I appreciate all the hard work

[2:17:25] you've done and everything you've done to help us and we're hopefully going to

[2:17:30] go forward and look forward to the positive things

[2:17:35] in the future where we're excited to have Sally here so

[2:17:42] okay it's okay if I call you Sally

[2:17:45] good

[2:17:52] any other comments do you have any comments for us well again I appreciate

[2:17:58] the opportunity I didn't expect a lot of the things that

[2:18:02] came across but I've been around a lot for the last 35 plus years as city

[2:18:07] manager so I've seen a lot and things got a little rough at times but I

[2:18:14] think we all weathered it and we and we've got a solid Council that makes

[2:18:19] a world of difference when you're trying to correct problems and bring Solutions

[2:18:24] and build a team and Sally and I visited this afternoon quite a bit she's still

[2:18:30] here so she didn't get together so I think it will be a good change out

[2:18:36] and uh Barbara Herr and you guys and the assistance if you need anything as we

[2:18:42] as well thank you all

[2:18:45] anything else entertain a motion to adjourn then

[2:18:49] commercial adjourned second roll call please

[2:18:55] yes Miller yes yes

[2:19:00] oh yes wow yes

[2:19:06] thank you

Recorded Version of June 12th 2023 Council Meetings

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