Londonderry Selectboard 09.08.26

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[0:16] Let's see, item number two, additions or deletions to the agenda.
[0:20] I have two, what is to remove the PISIP under 8B because I never received that, I was expecting
[0:30] to get something from the state, but I never did. So I have to follow with them. And then also
[0:35] of them to add an executive session on where we say
[0:45] 313A1F confidential attorney client
[0:49] communications.
[0:53] So moved.
[0:56] Any second?
[0:57] I'll second.
[0:59] All the papers say aye.
[1:02] Number three, a minute to parole, meetings of 817-2026 and 824-2026.
[1:08] I just want to make a note that I've changed the signature of a page because Tom was in here.
[1:13] So, he said Tom, but now since you're in here.
[1:17] That is the only change I made.
[1:19] So, I just want to give you the message.
[1:20] This is like for me to be 17 and be 24.
[1:25] Say it.
[1:26] I'll do the camera.
[1:28] Hi.
[1:29] I see you.
[1:30] Select board.
[1:31] I am four.
[1:32] Select board pay orders.
[1:37] I move to approve the pay orders for payroll and accounts payable.
[1:40] Okay.
[1:41] All those in favor?
[1:43] All right.
[1:45] I don't cry.
[1:46] The announcements in four respondents.
[1:47] I have a bunch because we haven't met in a while.
[1:50] Things have been happening.
[1:52] The office staff have purchased letter heads in the new town.
[1:55] We'll go and speak slick.
[1:56] So thank you for.
[1:58] Awesome.
[1:59] Approving that.
[2:01] And I've already used it twice.
[2:03] The water heater has developed a regression.
[2:06] It's a type of bug.
[2:07] The hot water heater has developed a leak.
[2:09] which has the heat hot water heater to shut off
[2:12] because it detects it and it was getting water on it.
[2:16] So we don't have any hot water here at the moment.
[2:18] We're hoping to have somebody on it by Friday,
[2:22] but be wow, we don't have hot water,
[2:24] which is a little bit of a bomb on it.
[2:26] I'm gonna go to the motorway for a little bit of a bomb on it.
[2:30] I'm hopefully closed out the right-hand project.
[2:32] You can catch the stuff, the person that I've been working with,
[2:38] He was coming back to me and saying, well, we need to redo this letter, we need to redo this.
[2:43] We need to redo this.
[2:43] So hopefully I have finally said a final thing and we can close that off and be done with
[2:51] FEMA on a DR-2740 or whatever this.
[2:55] And you guys aren't allowed to have another flood.
[2:58] Okay.
[3:00] No, I'm not.
[3:04] Well, now we can start the Spring Home Road part.
[3:07] Just for funsies.
[3:09] Funsies.
[3:10] The file structure is being built.
[3:15] We're hoping to actually, this is, I must have written this last week.
[3:21] It is online.
[3:23] So the new file structure is online.
[3:25] Tina, me, and Ally are the pilot people,
[3:30] beta, testers.
[3:32] So the next step is to get together and start moving
[3:35] stuff from the old file structure into the new file structure, I'll say it about this because
[3:41] the old file structure is a mess. So once we do that we're going to have a whole staff meeting
[3:52] and explain the importance of using SharePoint rather than one's desktop and get everybody on board
[3:59] with the new file structure and how to save documents and things.
[4:05] I just wanted to mention to the slideboard that there's been a check in public
[4:09] record request recently.
[4:12] Both from large companies, they sell our data, they ask us further, like, bit
[4:16] information than they sell our data, and then also just from, you know, citizens.
[4:21] So it does eat a lot of staff time.
[4:24] Just so you're aware.
[4:25] And so the public is aware if you have public rights requests, just be mindful that it really does.
[4:31] You couple a lot of our time if you're not specific when you're request.
[4:39] I will be meeting with the towns in the ACO regional agreement.
[4:43] That's the Animal Control Officer with regional approved wind and county initiative on 910 with a hopefully both to allow us into the program.
[4:54] I'm also a tenia Q&A session at the Barber religion on Thursday for our candidates for
[4:59] the tenon governor.
[5:01] I will also be attending a capital planning roundtable in Wilmington on Friday and all that
[5:07] to say is that I will be working remotely for Wednesday for the rest of the week.
[5:12] And the towncribes office will be closed Wednesday and Thursday for training.
[5:17] So, those two days essentially nobody will be in the office unless, you know, the income
[5:22] zinner, welcomes in.
[5:24] So, just so everybody knows it will be the front-dance staff who like to call ourselves.
[5:33] Of course, finance included in the board's meeting packet, there's an announcement from
[5:37] 7th for the latest round of the Ganton Board program.
[5:40] I took that program when it was the first started, it's a really excellent program with
[5:45] people thinking about getting on. Government boards, board, non-profit boards, sort of a
[5:51] approach to that people that want to. It's really, it's really awesome. The first
[5:57] classes in Saturday come to three October, 30,000. There's a notice from the Wind & Ridge
[6:04] locomotion about an additional public hearing on their draft fan update. On September 21, 2016,
[6:10] It's a 6 p.m. weekly that's on Zoom.
[6:12] There's a notice from the town of Jamaica
[6:14] of a public hearing on their enhanced energy plan
[6:17] on September 22nd, at 4.15 p.m.
[6:19] also I believe on Zoom.
[6:22] There's a grant opportunity which opened today for organizations
[6:26] considering being a warming shelter.
[6:29] It's called the extreme cold weather shelter
[6:30] program and all the information in the packet.
[6:34] There's a notice from the state that they
[6:35] approve which failing as a health officer.
[6:38] There's a template from VLCT for Class 4 Highlight Policy and I was wondering if you want to pursue updating that policy,
[6:45] because I think the last time was updated as a 1981 or a few years ago.
[6:54] So that's true, I'll put it on the next agenda as an agenda item.
[6:57] You can maybe take two of you guys to work with Eda.
[7:04] Or maybe you and Josh.
[7:07] Yeah, Josh will have some good input.
[7:10] Yeah.
[7:13] I'll do that.
[7:15] There are several catering with our province, which is not making online packets.
[7:19] I was having weird network issues yesterday or something.
[7:23] Whenever I did that.
[7:25] But they are in your printed packet. They're just a play-wise.
[7:30] The scopeing study, the draft scopeing study for bloodproofing by Stephen Cray is in your packet trying to pin him down to come to see this blackboard and explain. A lot of it, there's a lot of it. It's an engineering document. I mean, I read it, it said, well, that sounds good. I don't know if I don't know if they're good or bad, I guess. So hopefully we can get into the meeting soon.
[7:57] And then there's email, of course, on and from Barry Manodale, accusing Town staff from this information in this conduct, and I just want to say that Tina and Ally work really hard to validate the public, and they don't purposely mislead anybody, and definitely not engaging in this conduct, so, you know, members of the public come to them and they're angry sometimes because they have to pay the taxes or they, you know, haven't gotten what they want, but just be kind,
[8:26] we're all human. So just wanted to bring that up. That's all I have.
[8:34] Thank you. Item six, visitor and consumer citizens.
[8:40] Do you have one question? I don't think I want to talk.
[8:51] Yeah, I don't hear anything.
[8:54] Let's see. Item seven, liquor commission?
[8:57] Nothing.
[8:57] You know, so item eight roads and bridges, eight eight updates,
[9:07] progress on the
[9:09] grants and aid project that was on kind of vacationing lodges near vacation lodges on
[9:18] green hearts, right? Was that where it was?
[9:26] I don't remember. Yeah, I'm not 100% sure if
[9:29] it was limited to that, but that was where they've been working. And there was some
[9:33] up on Barker to that I think it was.
[9:37] I'm not sure if the two graduates were tied together, but it was like stone lining
[9:41] and two culverts, I think.
[9:45] Progress is being made on that.
[9:46] It's not complete, but Josh is meeting with the state representative to hopefully close
[9:52] that out within that week or so and get that grant.
[9:55] Except for grant money.
[10:03] Nothing specific other than cruise back together,
[10:11] and mowing, creating the usual round and round.
[10:23] Still waiting for the truck. That seems to be an update every meeting.
[10:27] I think that's nothing. Every single town that's trying to get it.
[10:32] Yeah, yeah, we're still hopeful, but we do not have it yet.
[10:40] So, progress being made on the repairs of the shed and the progress will continue on the overhang for the fuel tank.
[10:52] I think there was one little delay, but they're coming back to finish that one up.
[10:58] So there's still a little work going on there.
[11:04] The wastewater project is rolling along, that's, I don't know if that's a separate update,
[11:10] but because it's a state highway, but they're making progress.
[11:13] So, hey, are you just going to make your project, sir?
[11:17] Yeah, be aware of those road delays.
[11:22] And we will also be seeing delays on Spring Hill Road
[11:28] as the Colored Project kind of ramps up.
[11:32] And then the two Colored Replacement Projects on Little Pond Road
[11:37] and also Spring Hill Road will probably overlap
[11:43] the box-coverte project, so there'll be some time delays, maybe not. It'll be a full closure
[11:53] when the box-coverte is being put in, it'll be like a kind of a time delay when the regular
[12:00] cover, like town culverts are being replaced. I did contact the school to make sure they didn't
[12:09] in buses that they run buses at either end of the road, which is convenient because that's
[12:14] the only parts that will be open.
[12:17] Yeah.
[12:17] So, there was a question about the little pond road when that starts, because it's
[12:24] out of like, they might run buses up there.
[12:28] So, yeah, I think that's not about that offline, but just.
[12:31] One of the things that Josh and I talked about, and I'm not sure if it's been communicated
[12:35] to the contractor, Sanderson, but it would seem like we know when the bus runs, so if they
[12:44] avoid ripping across the road at the time when the bus needs to get through, they should
[12:50] be able to consolidate the bulk of their work between 8 and 230 or whatever. There might
[12:59] be preparation work or something that can be done before they actually trench the road
[13:04] and close it temporarily so.
[13:07] Hopefully they can work together and keep that
[13:10] softly open.
[13:12] Yeah, so, okay.
[13:14] They have to go together and know on the waste waters.
[13:17] Just people be aware of the stop lights
[13:18] that they are now too as well.
[13:22] It's got to go be off guard when I was following them.
[13:24] They almost ran right through home.
[13:26] Just be aware of their stop lights now on either end.
[13:30] Yeah, that's a good note because I think
[13:32] a lot of local people could drive our roads with their eyes closed.
[13:37] All of a sudden, you see something that hasn't ever been there, and you're like, oh, yeah.
[13:43] We've got to go about that.
[13:44] So that's a good reminder, that everything you have for a date.
[13:49] Right.
[13:50] So the new A.B.
[13:51] Review and improve driveway access permit would all.
[13:55] Um, can you speak to that?
[13:57] Yeah.
[13:58] Um, I don't see any reason when Josh looked at this as well.
[14:06] I don't know if it's in here, but I have a question.
[14:10] I can't just imagine I didn't have a key.
[14:13] Still not yet.
[14:14] From Josh.
[14:18] Where did I just see that?
[14:19] Thought that I'd do it.
[14:21] Drawing victory.
[14:23] Is this one?
[14:24] Yes.
[14:26] Yeah.
[14:27] Who's the packer?
[14:28] Oh yeah.
[14:30] Okay.
[14:30] Where did I go?
[14:34] Anyway,
[14:36] I have that, that's not the one that I'm looking at, but yes, Josh looked when
[14:41] and looked at it, and the only thing that we commented on was that the town has a requirement
[14:52] or a limitation, I guess, that a single property, property doesn't have more than one
[14:59] Thank you.
[15:06] So, I would say, and I got this forwarded to me from will. So, I think they've gone through that process and it's okay because one's on Melanie Hill and one's on a bungalow room.
[15:21] And it's not like it's not a loop for the accesses still to me, if you, if you, if you, if you,
[15:30] there are two separate options.
[15:32] I think that's the purpose of preventing multiple ones.
[15:40] But this appears to be more of like a storage access.
[15:46] So, we could approve it with the exception of the DRB just saying that it's okay because...
[15:59] Yeah, contingent on the DRB decision.
[16:03] Yeah.
[16:03] Do you have any more?
[16:04] So, I've done the comment section here.
[16:06] Um...
[16:06] Yeah.
[16:08] Okay.
[16:10] Yeah.
[16:10] Hending the DRB approval.
[16:14] And I guess I'm going to agree with conditions, yeah.
[16:20] Not to throw a wrench, but I think it's a simple, it will probably even answer that.
[16:27] Maybe I don't know if it's worth saying D.R.B. or Zoning Administrator review, but either one of the surprises I believe.
[16:39] All right, there's a motion.
[16:41] I will prove access to our application submitted by Roya Will for a modification of an existing
[16:46] access to our parcel located on the north side of Melendee Hill Road and authorize the
[16:51] chair to sign the permit on behalf of the board with the stipulation of the DRB approves
[16:57] that this as well.
[17:01] All those in favor?
[17:02] All right,
[17:18] eight of nine A, count pressure, a point select board representative for tax sale.
[17:23] So essentially, you have to have a select board representative at tax sale in case the town wants to purchase a property.
[17:31] And I recommend to the board that you appoint Taylor because he's on the land acquisition task force.
[17:43] I moved to point to our property at the select board representative.
[17:45] the tech sale occurring on September 16th, 2020 6th, 10 30 a.m. at the town office.
[17:50] Second. So all those in favor?
[17:53] All right.
[17:54] Okay.
[17:55] Good day.
[17:56] Thank you.
[17:57] What's going on?
[18:00] Bye, bye, bye, bye.
[18:02] All right.
[18:02] Nice being.
[18:03] My cheek is alive.
[18:04] Part one, recreation director.
[18:06] Review an approved change order for tense court.
[18:15] Hi.
[18:16] Okay.
[18:16] And you know, saying that a couple of times for 13, the idea of this kind of contact
[18:25] with the answer to the answer to the answer to the answer to the answer.
[18:29] To see what it's worth across to add to new, but it's not.
[18:36] People will of course spend a lot of time.
[18:40] conversation since I have joined the board, it is kind of uneniable that typical ball is
[18:48] by far, or more, there's more people ball being played on those courts than tennis,
[18:57] easily said. Any time you go down, this happens, or all six courts are being used. The conflict
[19:05] It has started at least communication and I've received.
[19:09] It hasn't been terrible, but it's kind of nice to act for a quarter
[19:14] if it doesn't become terrible, because it's kind of bad.
[19:19] I show up in years 12 people playing football,
[19:22] but I want to play tennis to my friend, what's the conversation here?
[19:27] So, that's the reasoning behind it.
[19:30] I hope we got, I think you all have.
[19:35] And so the board COVID, we just reached to a crew, the change order, and include the building of two dedicated pick-of-all cards.
[19:51] What's the price difference? I don't know what the price difference was initially.
[19:53] The price difference, originally we were looking at one on 11, and there was some debate whether it needed to be all of that,
[20:02] we're not because of stabilization fabric, we were kind of rolling the dice to see if they took up the old court.
[20:09] And we were like, wow, this foundation is great, which we didn't really anticipate.
[20:13] So we kind of, I think we wrote the contract to not exceed the hydro amount.
[20:18] This is an additional 71, and I think we can consider a whole amount of, actually, probably
[20:26] speak to it too.
[20:27] I could, with the new space, we're now going to have a four-and-a-half, of St.
[20:33] Lization fabric, 12 inches of sub-base on the tennis court, and 24 inches on the new court,
[20:41] to make sure that we're not dealing with this problem for decades.
[20:53] just realized I put the pull amount in here.
[20:56] Do you know what the exact amount?
[20:59] 71,000, $15,000 is the amount that I just ate on the contract amount and the new.
[21:05] 71,000?
[21:06] $15,000,000.
[21:08] So that's the numberation.
[21:10] We have a number one, 82, 95, that would be the new total.
[21:17] That's the usual part.
[21:21] The board has already put 40 towards the project from our last fiscal year.
[21:30] And then also has a report in the pain-free fund that we've been kind of preparing for the last two years for this.
[21:38] So we started that adding 20 each year to that fund.
[21:45] So we're essentially looking to the bottom, just over 100,000 from Senator Commission
[21:51] S, was previously approved.
[21:54] I think up to 150 was the number we agreed on, the check rate and some math and yeah.
[22:05] So any discussion?
[22:08] My only comment is, the work's supposed to start in a few weeks, you already have a...
[22:17] We wanted to set date yet.
[22:20] We're kind of waiting for this, and then to confirm with Hunter,
[22:24] I've been told by Sean and the vanishing right here.
[22:30] I would like at least two weeks to give notice to our players because we're trying to push off as long as possible for the ability for people to play as long as they can, but we also want to make sure that it's done an exciting fashion.
[22:44] And if we act sooner than later, I believe Sean from advantage can actually get all posts
[22:52] splitting before he leaves the area for the winter.
[22:57] So that's kind of a good idea to dance and we'll figure out if this is a perfect ending
[23:03] lot figure out if we're going to do it for the tennis work authority.
[23:06] Well, and that's what I was kind of ramping up to was if the work is already kind of set
[23:13] for the tennis courts and the timeline is kind of winter, adding this and getting it done
[23:21] is basically going to save you like a year, I mean at least on redoing, if you have to
[23:29] go ahead and add this out of later being.
[23:31] Oh, yes, okay, yeah, percussion.
[23:34] So the timing that we set up for tennis is the same timeline where all of our demo and grade
[23:42] and actually in the asphalt and ideally in the coast because that gets done just
[23:48] going to be between the two asphalt players but that's not clear at all.
[23:54] Okay, so yeah, that would all be done before we did.
[23:59] And then in the spring they come back.
[24:01] They check if there's any bird bats in the river pair or anything like that.
[24:04] And that's sort of a certain finishing process.
[24:07] And then fancy.
[24:08] But the folks are going to be up.
[24:10] So timeline should stay the same, and we did that, and we did that consciously, so that
[24:17] you're ahead.
[24:18] So we could have that timeline in his schedule to minimize the downtime.
[24:25] So the question of now versus later on the additional courts, one, you've got everybody
[24:33] out there doing the work, two, you're saving a wall.
[24:37] of fencing, essentially, essentially a whole,
[24:42] to get the dimension 120 feet of,
[24:44] because we have it on the tennis,
[24:46] and then you have to build it on the table,
[24:48] and now those can share.
[24:50] You don't have to go over a pass through.
[24:52] And then also space-wise,
[24:54] fill out the programming,
[24:55] exchange, other resources,
[24:57] and several animals.
[24:58] It seems like all forward motion
[25:00] if you do the projects.
[25:02] Come on.
[25:03] And then whatever your likes to say
[25:06] to do is that prices usually aren't getting better.
[25:10] So, historically, yeah.
[25:13] So, one of the things we've barely started and we'd like to be able to do a stronger
[25:20] campaign on this a little bit of fundraising from public as well, you know, that the parks
[25:27] get used to buying non-lundinary residents, yet non-lundinary residents are the ones you
[25:32] front of this. The park sport felt very strongly that when we had a tent of sport, we
[25:38] will maintain. So that whole aspect seems like an appropriate thing for an area to continue
[25:46] to maintain. The pickable wall is our hope that we could try to get a lot of this 70,000 raised
[25:53] by private owners. So it's an ongoing task of myself and the park sport and TOR as well.
[26:02] to see how much about meeting race, to the less than ever, on Monday there.
[26:08] That's how it's important.
[26:12] So in those minutes, anybody feels like the only thing you stick to the time.
[26:18] To the Friday.
[26:19] Does that mean how long is that on the empty airbox?
[26:22] Sounds like a radiation dial.
[26:26] Are you really coming motion?
[26:28] I moved to approve the change order for a ping-ree park tennis court replacement in the amount.
[26:34] Not to exceed 182,895.
[26:39] Otherwise, the town of the district is peace sign on behalf of the board.
[26:45] That's a total amount of the project.
[26:47] Not the change.
[26:48] The changes.
[26:49] Right. Okay.
[26:51] So, anyway.
[26:52] Thank you.
[26:52] Thank you.
[26:52] Yeah.
[26:55] Let me scratch that.
[26:57] I moved to approve the change order
[27:00] for a pre-group heart tennis court replacement,
[27:06] not to exceed 71,000 and $59.
[27:12] Today, not include the total dollar you have to pay.
[27:16] I don't know if it came out, or if it could have been that much.
[27:20] Penalther is the town administrator, just sign on behalf of the board.
[27:23] Second.
[27:24] A little timetable.
[27:27] I can sign this now and then you can take it because I'm going to be in the office for the next couple days.
[27:35] He's chatting on the side, I don't want to be heard of you.
[27:38] Oh, that was a question for you.
[27:40] You're just saying yes.
[27:44] Okay.
[27:44] Well, sure.
[27:46] Don't go anywhere yet.
[27:47] Take this touch.
[27:52] Please.
[27:57] Okay.
[27:57] I can't go anywhere yet anyway, but.
[28:00] Scan and send you to a show.
[28:02] Yeah.
[28:02] I don't mind.
[28:03] All right, nine being part two, except the resignation of Kelly Pilella from
[28:09] Sparks Ward.
[28:10] Um, yes, I think she's moving out of unnecessary, um, and so she needs to
[28:17] resign.
[28:18] I thought we'd have her resign before we tried to appoint somebody else.
[28:24] I moved to accept the resignation of Kelly Pilella from the Sparks Ward.
[28:28] Second.
[28:29] All those in favour?
[28:30] Aye.
[28:32] Thank you Kelly for all your service.
[28:34] Yes.
[28:38] All right, nine, be part 3, a point, part 4 member, Christine, play a lock.
[28:48] To move to a point, Christine, play a lock to the park's board to fill out the remainder of
[28:51] Kelly Palace term, which ends on April 1st, 227.
[28:56] Thank you.
[28:57] All those in favor?
[28:59] All right.
[28:59] Congratulations, Christine.
[29:04] Item 9C, the Education Committee, Item 1, appoint the Education Committee member, Melissa Brown.
[29:12] I move to appoint Melissa Brown to the Education Committee to fill up the remainder of the time.
[29:17] And I'm 41229.
[29:19] Second, all those in favor?
[29:23] Aye.
[29:23] You're at Melissa?
[29:25] Aye.
[29:27] 90 short-term rental administrator, part one, discuss administrative fee for decline
[29:32] applications.
[29:34] All right.
[29:34] I've got to be then open in front of me so that make sure I get to all well, first
[29:40] to the highest deadline.
[29:42] This, I see as a change to policy procedure, not to the ordinance itself.
[29:49] So we kept the instruction separate so that they can be modified, put this area in the office, you know.
[30:02] So, I think this fits under that heading. The idea, and this was talked about a couple of meetings by the short term working group in the spring.
[30:20] The idea is to allow for a administrative fee of $150 in the case where, for in cases where
[30:32] a submitted application is for some reason, denied or declined.
[30:41] What we talked about and wrote us in the first, in the spring round of policy, was that
[30:49] somebody found us at our house, what was out of compliance.
[30:55] They had a chance to, everybody had a chance to submit what was called compliance plan
[30:59] within 30 days of getting the notice that the house is eligible as it is.
[31:05] And what we wrote up was that in a case where that compliance plan was rejected, which
[31:14] was sort of the end of the line for that house.
[31:19] The fee of it had been paid with the refunded minus $150 to cover several hours of work.
[31:27] We're talking about planning and expecting that inspection could have an inspection writing it up
[31:34] and then going through the stages of evaluating the plan.
[31:39] So it's, you know, it's the cover, how it touched me.
[31:43] I think that could sensibly be a little broader.
[31:49] In other words, if we're still on the education phase
[31:54] and some people, you know, maybe pay their feet first
[31:57] and then get their allocation in and then
[31:59] find out that the application was really not consistent
[32:03] with, let's say, their waste water permit, you know, people are finding that they can't
[32:09] begin to have a kind of guest volume that they thought because they have researched
[32:16] permit, you know, maybe it came with a previous owner. And also they're just finding out
[32:22] about, you know, different regulations or how the fire marshals restrict capacity in
[32:29] property. Again, if there's that whole kind of a folklore of, oh, it's a ski house, you know,
[32:36] when do people can pile in there? That's why they have to think, bro, you know, and then it
[32:40] turns out that that doesn't mesh with Vermont-logs governing rail property. So it's fun, but it's not legal.
[32:47] Yeah. So I feel like if
[32:53] somebody pays, let's say prematurely, and then finds out that the rental
[32:58] really isn't viable, that it seems fair to return the money, but I would like one requirement
[33:09] and that is that they have not been using the house as a rental, which would be an
[33:16] ordinance violation. In other words, you know, paying does not cover or does not substitute
[33:22] for a license. And if so many pays and then finds out that the house will be, you know,
[33:30] much smaller than they lied, or that the house itself has to be remodeled or egressed
[33:35] windows have to go in or a commercial fire alarm system has to go in because they want to
[33:41] host ten people. These are all real scenarios that, you know, if somebody has shows them to be
[33:49] compliance with the ordinance. I don't feel like the refunded application fee then has a lot of merit.
[33:59] But if it almost turns into a fun, as opposed to, yeah,
[34:03] well then the alternative is the right of series of tickets, which is itself a very,
[34:13] So I think consistent with the working group, the working group, approve the idea of a kind
[34:23] of no fault or a refund into the discovery phase.
[34:29] I'd like your thoughts on that and if that sounds sensible and fair, the people will
[34:39] property and want to rent it here, but again, I don't want to create that, but there shouldn't
[34:45] be cover for a non-compliant rental by paying the fee, but not actually being issued
[34:51] the license because that's, the ordinance is really clear, you cannot start a rental before
[34:57] you've been issued the license.
[34:59] So we don't go wrong.
[34:59] Just paying the FK-100, it does not constitute the notice, yes.
[35:03] I mean, I feel like some language, very clear language that says non-refundable application
[35:12] V, you know, right at the top, it's going to change people's behavior, you know, people
[35:18] are going to say, I'm not going to write this check until I know what I'm writing it for,
[35:22] so you're going to hopefully read out some of the unintended fees being paid and not have
[35:29] as many to like, you know, maybe consider returning
[35:33] because those people are going to think first
[35:36] and write a Chinese.
[35:37] I don't know.
[35:39] I definitely agree with that.
[35:41] And, I mean, I suppose you could, if you added
[35:45] non-refundable application fee, you could put a little
[35:50] asterisk or something that said, you know,
[35:54] some exclusions that plot may apply or something like that,
[35:58] I was only trying to, you know,
[36:05] if you were adamant about the ability to do that, you
[36:08] could maybe do that, but I agree that I would in the office and do a case by case if there
[36:15] was a situation where the person hadn't even fully engaged, you just get to get their money back
[36:21] but if it goes into processing, then the money is spent in the fees, not matured.
[36:27] Yeah, yeah, I like that, and that takes us to point two, which is discuss adding non-refundable
[36:34] clause to the few scheduled.
[36:36] And remember, I come to you all a few months ago and said there's no change to the fees,
[36:42] but I think adding, I'm wondering, a non-refundable clause, so that that's exactly what I'd
[36:51] like to add.
[36:52] so that the dollar amounts are changing,
[36:55] but there is a chance for a kind of no fault.
[37:01] Well, there's a refund in the very special circumstances.
[37:05] A lot of them have not been out of compliance,
[37:07] but I think I like the fields fair to me
[37:10] that as people are learning whether they're property,
[37:14] new or old is really eligible.
[37:18] I'm happy to inspect so that people
[37:20] can make that discovery, but I'm finding that somebody got colossally bad information from
[37:28] a property man.
[37:30] Management firm, saying that their house would make a great rental. And in fact, the remodeling to the house to make any one of the bedrooms, we don't, was going to be a whole remod, asking them, yeah. So he bought and just, I don't want people going away feeling like they've been misled or dinged for $1,250, which is what fair enough are of these are
[37:59] to the minister.
[38:03] And again, I also feel like we're still in your free work, try to educate
[38:08] public, right, and sort of get people understand what makes our mental and what makes
[38:14] that a house not really viable rental.
[38:19] So also, okay, well I'll revise the fee schedule that I publish
[38:27] And tack on to the first time applicant forms to reflect non-refundable 150 and
[38:46] the possibility of a refund of a payment in the rare case.
[38:54] You know, in the case that someone has been compliant with the audience or has not started their rental without a license, which I think is the clearest.
[39:04] That's a white and white.
[39:08] Okay.
[39:09] I do want to put you on your stuff for next agenda for approval.
[39:14] If you, yes, if I can write the, if you want to see the document, I don't think we, do we include the few schedule?
[39:24] in the packet or was it just I don't think it was in the packet yeah I think it was just
[39:31] I was trying to think of things to put in the packet for that and that didn't occur to me so
[39:35] I didn't make it to the packet. How do you do that for your next meeting so we just look at that.
[39:40] Yeah that'd be good.
[39:45] That's basically covered part one and part two there.
[39:47] So 90, part 3, review and approve SCR appeal board members.
[39:53] Okay, so the members need to be the town clerk member of the J.P.
[40:04] A member of emergency services and a member of the DRB and a second member.
[40:13] So we have Allison as the founder of the Reane Cronin as a J.P. Paul Hennler as
[40:23] DRB and Rich Failin as emergency services.
[40:27] So one of few three needs to be on that board.
[40:30] I can do it.
[40:32] Okay.
[40:36] Oh, the other thing is that we didn't specify a term in the
[40:42] her rentals appeals policy. So we weren't sure, like, she'd just be like a year by a year.
[40:51] A year by your basis. Maybe somebody doesn't want to do it after you do it for a year.
[40:57] Yes, although we have a hard time getting people to volunteer for this.
[41:03] For 20 years.
[41:05] For as long as you're under duty, no, no, no.
[41:08] Until then, do it for me.
[41:10] So we can try from what we're bringing already, no, no, it doesn't matter.
[41:16] Since it's been for sure, maybe just do it for the years and see how it goes.
[41:21] Do you have to like do it like one and two year turns to staggered?
[41:28] I don't think there is that cool thing.
[41:30] It's such an odd board that I don't, I already know I would do that.
[41:36] Let's go from one year and see what happens.
[41:39] Yeah, that we can do because of the terms.
[41:42] Maybe after the year we can further, like, we can adjust the terms.
[41:46] Just see who's left.
[41:47] That might be a topic for the short term working to many.
[41:51] Yeah.
[41:52] I, you know, I have no say in the creation of the board.
[41:58] But from my conversations with the town attorney,
[42:02] he's used to term ad hoc, which is just to me that wouldn't be,
[42:07] It's I think that committee is assembled when it is needed. I don't feel like it should be a long term standing committee necessarily
[42:17] And if there are three or four or five appeals in the first year and then there is not a field and it's only one coming out of summer
[42:26] It's essentially dissolved every time
[42:29] Yes, it's dissolved
[42:30] And maybe people are pulled back in as needed.
[42:36] It's like a deer.
[42:36] It functions like a DRP though.
[42:38] So we need to have those people stand members for what it is.
[42:44] Is a DRP also at Hock?
[42:46] No.
[42:46] Well, the DRP is a quasi-judicial order.
[42:51] But it's functioning like that.
[42:54] So I mean, it's a work.
[42:56] Checking with Bob.
[43:00] We check out a lot of stuff on each plate.
[43:03] We should check the Bob about it terms, but I think it'd be okay to say that, you know,
[43:07] for this for today, we'll say it's for a chair of one year and we can write this.
[43:12] What we're trying to do is get a convene for September because there are appeals waiting.
[43:17] We can see it for your pending.
[43:20] Follow your pending lawyer review.
[43:23] Okay. I moved to a point Allison Reno more in Cronin, Paul Henler, Rich Failing, and
[43:32] Lee Ann Alexander to the STR feels bored for a turn of one year pending a turn of review.
[43:39] Second, Halls in favor. All right. All right. All right. All right.
[43:51] All right. Nine, E. Town Hall
[43:53] of each committee, part one, request for approval for Murph loan application.
[43:59] Um, did you want to speak to what the community is doing?
[44:02] Yeah, I know we were going to keep the money, you know, how we'll keep it in Murph.
[44:06] I mean, I wasn't at the meeting, so I talked about it in the conversation.
[44:10] A little bit of an additional one to be picked up months ago.
[44:13] Yeah, come on.
[44:14] Yeah.
[44:15] So it's not to be confused Murph, uh, is going to be a problem.
[44:21] that we have utilized for these two buildings.
[44:24] We work with a great thing where there is a lump.
[44:27] This particular round is zero interest.
[44:31] Let's give you a big background, 10 years.
[44:34] So it's something that, as a form, we, for community,
[44:39] thought would be very beneficial since we don't necessarily
[44:43] have enough hunting to do projects.
[44:47] We just, you know, don't do this.
[44:51] And he was a lot more, but so he could see the movement, the progress of the system.
[45:01] What I'm sure will be eligible, because I hope it's about to be open.
[45:05] I think that did not get hurt. Right. First, let's play a while ago, too.
[45:10] I'm so excited. So, it's an attempt to lock in your response, which seems pertinent to us.
[45:18] We will continually be trying to work on the so-called few years.
[45:25] And it's specific to be related to municipal, but energy resilience.
[45:31] So, depending on what we can't finish out of.
[45:38] Right.
[45:38] We're looking at multiple that's, but, well,
[45:44] it's a one of the national representatives.
[45:48] Yeah, so, at the last time that this was brought up
[45:52] the second word, what I did a number from the committee
[45:55] and a specific proposal.
[45:58] That doesn't sign that actually came out of the committee.
[46:02] One thing I also needed was how much I have in the work money to how much we have left.
[46:10] Yeah, I can have a conversation with you offline because it's a constantly evolving number.
[46:20] Why?
[46:20] Of course I'm absolutely good, but that was a while ago that I was talking about that.
[46:34] So it sounds to me like a little premature for this particular evening.
[46:39] I mean on the day in 2015, because it's a zero interest loan that we don't have to use.
[46:46] Eat truth?
[46:47] I don't believe it.
[46:48] Do you want me to point me that pitch?
[46:50] I mean otherwise we're going to, I think we've got to put out the quotes that will change by the time we actually get to those projects.
[46:59] I mean, unless you could say that you really would only need 100,000, then we don't know.
[47:07] So I didn't look forward to the day that we're close enough to say that.
[47:11] We're not quite there.
[47:13] We're going to go ahead and go ahead and
[47:16] go ahead.
[47:17] We dropped off from the GC conversation a little bit.
[47:22] we already dropped off the NDA bathroom, those projects that we're focusing on right now.
[47:31] We have to touch the finished states that we have to touch the foundation of the finished
[47:35] states that the NDA bathroom down there, the exterior and building, sighting paint,
[47:54] all these
[47:54] and they can't do vacations from births go until I read you.
[47:59] Well, I believe we haven't till the end of the year.
[48:03] And like he said, there's no guaranteed we would get it,
[48:05] because we already got our funding.
[48:08] And it is a revolving loan fund,
[48:10] so there have been other towns that have applied for the funds.
[48:14] And that fund is depleted,
[48:16] and they won't open it back up until they've been repaid.
[48:20] And so, I'm trying to find that, you know, it was kind of a topic since it isn't
[48:26] doing a lot of time to apply, we could at least do that, if we were awarded, then we
[48:31] could make the decision if we were going to go forward, because they were not going to
[48:34] come in, just because we get sure of course.
[48:38] That's true.
[48:39] That's reasonable.
[48:41] So in that case, if you're a member, just make a motion to approve the town hall renovation
[48:47] committee to apply for the, yeah, take the wording for two and change the grant name to a loan.
[49:00] I'm going to approve the Title Innovation Committee to apply for a Murph loan with the caveat that in fear or
[49:14] fruit you come back to us like born with for the final decision yep that he's done
[49:21] dollars
[49:25] whoop second all those in favor all right I don't let's see so it's
[49:36] one two two nine here one
[49:40] nine E three E two E two there's a different way okay I need to request
[49:48] for approval to apply for additional grants?
[49:54] Yes.
[49:55] So that was a bear for sale.
[49:58] So if you want to speak to the grant that you can find,
[50:02] for the best.
[50:04] So the Vermont Community Development Program offers
[50:07] two municipalities, ABAA upgrades.
[50:12] And it's, I think, 5,250,000 dollars.
[50:16] You kind of qualify for.
[50:20] So, continuing, we'd love to add an A-A family on the first floor where we could use that as what we're trying to get on people and other smaller A-A improvements.
[50:32] It's a town thing, so the town has to apply to the work of the grant administrators of the program.
[50:40] They usually only do like three brands per year, and more than half of it.
[50:45] Because that is even convenient for that.
[50:47] It's used up very quickly.
[50:49] And the only thing I know this is I want to work.
[50:52] So I think it'll be worthwhile for the town to try, because you know, I can't cover everything with the guns that we have.
[50:58] And then we can get some additional funding to do more 80A upgrades on the feed rate.
[51:03] And there's no match.
[51:06] I don't think there's a match, but I think I'm going to demonstrate what you're contributing to the project,
[51:13] and we can certainly demonstrate that because it's so that it could be in kind.
[51:17] Yep. Okay.
[51:19] Four funds will be very important to it for me to tell about this.
[51:23] Oh, okay.
[51:27] But the nice step would be contact the grant administrators and work with one of them on the subject.
[51:34] It would have to come through the town, but we're willing to go.
[51:37] If you would like to fill out the epic things, I think it's fine.
[51:40] I think it's fine.
[51:42] I think it's fine.
[51:43] But don't get it.
[51:47] I think that's the best step.
[51:58] And we're also exploring a couple of other grants that are active through the remote
[52:03] and help her with,
[52:06] because E прек hour notice.
[52:10] So, I'm the American motion.
[52:11] I was theleeper, and I'm bringing a team committee
[52:13] application to the Vermont Team to develop
[52:15] and program accessibility, modification grant,
[52:17] and also I suppose, most is here.
[52:19] This is the University of Newcastle,
[52:20] and the Supreme Court of the Skylands.
[52:22] Say, all of those on, all of them are favorite?
[52:26] All right.
[52:27] All right.
[52:30] So, my e-part three review and approve town hall to conduct track to your services proposal.
[52:38] So, we got one. This is in the second attempt.
[52:42] This is the second attempt.
[52:44] So, we got one from Hunter and the town administration committee to recommend the support except the proposal by Hunter excavating
[53:00] and the amount, well, the amount, so there's different, it's broken up in a different
[53:07] projects,
[53:11] so you could accept all of them or, you know, some certain ones.
[53:16] My recommendation is to accept all of it and then we can have conversations with Hunter about
[53:21] what's actually doable with the funds that we actually have.
[53:28] So it's full of how it's 284771.
[53:35] So clearly the concept of bidding apples to apples on, we went into this previously thinking that there was some discrepancy in that.
[53:48] It was a... so... it was a...
[53:52] It was a...
[53:52] So the number...
[53:53] So how did you get the right version of the plans and they...
[53:58] They pulled out and...
[54:00] He had one and...
[54:02] Then they didn't do the second time.
[54:04] They didn't do the second time.
[54:06] I was hoping that they would...
[54:09] They decided, like, is it probably the second time that it was too much for...
[54:18] So...
[54:18] much we stripped out, it can't remember what we stripped out. The ADA bathroom and also the clarified
[54:24] that the entrance, no the beer door would not have the canopy rebuilt because there was a
[54:32] question as to what if the companies were bidding on the same thing there. So hopefully it was more fair
[54:41] and well the clarification certainly had an impact on the numbers. Yeah, must have
[54:50] Yes.
[54:51] Yes.
[54:51] That's the details of that here.
[55:00] Yeah.
[55:01] Can you give me a discussion on the moves too?
[55:03] The moves is separate.
[55:05] The moves is separate.
[55:06] The moves actually get in the contract.
[55:07] Is that a contract?
[55:07] Perfect.
[55:08] It was already done that.
[55:09] Just make a share because I just saw it instantly.
[55:11] Yeah.
[55:12] Make sure that moves.
[55:13] Yeah, yeah.
[55:13] It's hard to get in the contract.
[55:15] Yeah.
[55:17] Yeah.
[55:17] It was pretty, it was pretty a slate too.
[55:20] So there's not that many people in the state that do that anymore.
[55:22] So, but we did finally find somebody and contracted with them and one of them they tell me.
[55:29] I'll see what I do.
[55:30] Yeah.
[55:30] Perfect.
[55:33] I was like my main, I was like one of my main concerns in the building.
[55:36] Yeah.
[55:37] I think the most people have been seeing me.
[55:40] I said that was like one of my main concerns about the building.
[55:42] So, yeah.
[55:43] I'd like to hear that you're able to find somebody.
[55:45] I'll see you back before we put a bunch of situations.
[55:48] Yeah.
[55:49] What's the term for this?
[55:53] Like if we're not going to get to a lot of this work, money.
[55:58] This is pretty close to what we have left over
[56:02] and then with the town renovation.
[56:09] But that's what I meant by we could have,
[56:14] It's just what's going on here, according to what we have and if we have to wait until next July,
[56:21] we can work with them to do that.
[56:26] Is it going to be able to make the motion?
[56:28] I'm moved to a second proposal from Hunter to provide general contractor services as
[56:32] made to cost $284,701.
[56:38] and to upwards the temperature and the heat to need out the minutes necessary for the
[56:42] higher level of the temperature to be better and necessary.
[56:46] Second, all those in favor?
[56:49] All right.
[56:50] All right.
[56:51] That's good.
[56:55] Item 10, 10 A, transfer station-solid waste management updates.
[57:02] So, I don't have any, so it's usually times per view.
[57:09] So, go to the 11 old business, 11 A, review and approve updated by Tinerant Vendor
[57:15] ordinance.
[57:16] Okay.
[57:16] So, I also mentioned that you don't approve it today, but this will didn't get to review it.
[57:24] And he's suggesting we take it to the layer, which is probably a bit of a guess.
[57:28] All right.
[57:28] So, put it off to the next.
[57:29] Yeah, but I do want to just point up what I did here because I didn't redline it.
[57:36] I thought about redlining it after I started editing it.
[57:40] What did you do there?
[57:41] 22.
[57:46] So, basically, I was trying to streamline the process a little bit so that
[57:51] I turn it and vendors can come and go with having to wait too much for this like
[57:57] And having Will do, I don't know if there's anything else in the picture.
[58:02] No, no, no. Sorry, I've got my paper shuffled over here.
[58:07] Sorry.
[58:10] So having Will be the person, the point person for this makes a lot of sense because he does this kind of thing in the course of zoning permits.
[58:23] So, mainly what I did was I took out the select boards, the need to the select board to approve it.
[58:31] So, the select board is just delegating out authority to your appointee as well.
[58:37] And then the other thing that we did was streamline it for a place.
[58:44] So basically, basically right now, every single item
[58:52] in a vendor has to fill up the permit.
[58:57] And generally, there's parked at a certain space right.
[59:00] So they're at the coffee bar, they're at the farmer's market.
[59:03] They don't tend to move around town that way.
[59:08] So I expanded it so that the owner of the property
[59:12] can make one blanket permit and then have it first say like the summer for the cotton you
[59:20] know what I call food truck Fridays. So you're leaving a location instead of the specific
[59:27] value. Yeah and then also you know then it doesn't ding the internet vendors because if they're
[59:32] getting dinged $25 at every single town that they go through it doesn't incentivizes them to come to
[59:40] So that's that. The only other question I had was whether we wanted to up the fee right now it's
[59:45] twenty five dollars per application. The fee is really just, you know, it's an administrative fee
[59:50] right, so it should pay for Will's time. I don't know if that pays for Will's time. It's
[59:53] would have to ask him. But. Okay, because I'll never be like one for the whole. Yeah.
[59:58] You don't even have to go.
[1:00:00] How do you like a site visit, right?
[1:00:02] Yeah, I don't like, I don't have that conversation at all, then we can, we can address that too, and make some meaning.
[1:00:07] Yeah, see how much she feels, like it's reasonable, yeah. So,
[1:00:11] Excuse me, since she's the one doing the work. Yeah, so hopefully we'll get clarity from well and from Bob for the next meeting.
[1:00:20] And then we can, but it is an ordinance, so it's, you know, it's got that force of law.
[1:00:25] So if we want to, we want to make sure it's right.
[1:00:28] Yeah, okay.
[1:00:31] All right.
[1:00:31] So let me move that to next.
[1:00:35] So let me just let's do 11B review and approve updated.
[1:00:39] I turn off vendor permit application.
[1:00:41] So we don't have one because we have an approved review.
[1:00:45] And so yeah, so we should take that off to.
[1:00:47] Okay, so let's go.
[1:00:49] I don't know.
[1:00:50] New business part A review and approve mind-shrapping and ceiling of town office parking lot.
[1:00:55] Okay,
[1:01:00] so Tina got, not Tina, Ali got it close.
[1:01:03] Sorry for calling Tina for some of you.
[1:01:06] She appreciates it too.
[1:01:08] So, I kind of wrote a quote from the Vance of Haven Managed Services.
[1:01:12] This is the same person who did this striping,
[1:01:13] the way mine striping on Tom Siburg Road.
[1:01:19] And another wrote that for you.
[1:01:20] What's in the book of Smiltown.
[1:01:22] Anyway, and he also did this striping for the parking lot.
[1:01:29] So the way this works is the first quote is just striping.
[1:01:35] So the 850 would be just me striping the parking lot.
[1:01:40] But he recommends that we also have a seal code if it's in the last one.
[1:01:44] For some reason he couldn't seal code it.
[1:01:46] But first time he did it, I'm assuming because the pavement was new.
[1:01:49] I don't really, I don't know my shape.
[1:01:51] I don't know why you could do it that but it just lets you know keeps the pain for longer
[1:01:58] but obviously it's more expensive so the Tina have any comment on funding probably like that
[1:02:08] She says we didn't have money in the budget that's what she says.
[1:02:12] Well she was so kind and I'm sure if we could so but she did say that you know this is this was
[1:02:18] budgeted for.
[1:02:22] And the lies look pretty good right now I think I think the
[1:02:25] concern is that you know by next spring they're going to be not so awesome.
[1:02:30] Would it make sense since we're only a few months from budgeting to budget for next year?
[1:02:36] I think that's worth it. I think more sense to do that than to try to get
[1:02:44] I mean, you can still see the lines and I mean, not to put off maintenance of our new stuff because I do think it's important, but I think if it's not budgeted and we're getting to budgeted.
[1:02:58] We don't have one more.
[1:02:59] We can also just strike it and then do the full seal code next year as well.
[1:03:04] We have to just do everything next year at same time if we have the budget for we can budget for the 4350
[1:03:11] Yeah, I agree
[1:03:12] It's set over between
[1:03:14] thousand 500
[1:03:15] So they're talking yeah everything is included it's very confusing with it. I eat it this but everything is included in the 335
[1:03:25] better
[1:03:25] I think we can budget it for next one
[1:03:29] That is that
[1:03:31] All right, so 12 b
[1:03:33] Review on a proof, town garage, shed, roof change orders.
[1:03:37] OK, so this was one of them is, one is just to fix the roof.
[1:03:46] I took the roof needs to be fixed, so that I didn't fix or it needs to be replaced.
[1:03:51] Well, what I think that would happen to the original was that the screws needed to be replaced?
[1:03:58] And it turned out that the cost of replacing the screws was more than half of what it was.
[1:04:05] to just replace the whole roof, because you're essentially taking it off and putting it back
[1:04:08] on, or taking the screws out and putting new screws in, but still the cost of the metal
[1:04:13] was pretty minimal compared to the overall project.
[1:04:19] So the difference being, too, that old metal was nailed, and the new metal would probably
[1:04:27] use screw type flash fasteners and not that it's an important factor for this discussion
[1:04:36] maybe but the difference being that when you nail the top of the ridge and when you screw
[1:04:41] you nail in the flat so replacing the nails you have to do it in the same spot which is
[1:04:49] not the factor you recommended location and it becomes like that.
[1:04:54] It's not terrible, it's the fascinating failure that kind of brought the conversation up.
[1:05:04] So when Josh asked me about it because he was talking about the guys that were working on it, you know, he said,
[1:05:10] it makes sense to just redo it.
[1:05:12] Do that, and I agree with the experience.
[1:05:16] Yeah, and that covers the cost of the metal and the new screws.
[1:05:20] And I don't think that's a big change for the value of what you'd get.
[1:05:32] Oh, you're the ultimate motion.
[1:05:35] So if you're going with the full, we'll be able to play some 1,000 times.
[1:05:41] The difference, well, the change order difference is 5,000.
[1:05:49] don't prefer the change order.
[1:05:50] Just a town garage, shed or prepare me about not to exceed $5,800 and $18,000, and the author
[1:05:56] is allowed to mention your sign on behalf of them.
[1:05:59] Second, all of those are favourable.
[1:06:05] Item 13 executive session.
[1:06:14] So is this the addition?
[1:06:16] Yes.
[1:06:16] Well, this is different.
[1:06:17] Let's see.
[1:06:18] That's the addition.
[1:06:19] So we're going to do it in two parts.
[1:06:20] Let's say.
[1:06:21] How do we go?
[1:06:22] Yep.
[1:06:22] I moved to find that premature general public knowledge of confidential attorney
[1:06:27] client privilege will clearly place the town that the board or person
[1:06:30] involved in a substantial disadvantage by revealing negotiating.
[1:06:36] A second.
[1:06:37] All is in favour?
[1:06:39] I moved that the board entered executive session pursuant to 1 VSA Section 313A1F
[1:06:47] confidential attorney client communications made for the purpose of providing
[1:06:52] professional legal services to the body and invite the tenant in the store to join the session.
[1:06:57] Okay.
[1:06:57] I was a favor.
[1:06:59] Bye.