[0:14] And

[0:14] everyone, the meeting of the

[0:15] everyone, the meeting of the

[0:15] everyone, the meeting of the Public Safety Committee is now

[0:16] everyone, the meeting of the Public Safety Committee is now

[0:16] everyone, the meeting of the Public Safety Committee is now called to order. Today is

[0:18] Public Safety Committee is now called to order. Today is

[0:18] Public Safety Committee is now called to order. Today is Wednesday, January 28th, 2026.

[0:20] called to order. Today is Wednesday, January 28th, 2026.

[0:21] called to order. Today is Wednesday, January 28th, 2026. Time is approximately 2:30 p.m.

[0:24] Wednesday, January 28th, 2026. Time is approximately 2:30 p.m.

[0:24] Wednesday, January 28th, 2026. Time is approximately 2:30 p.m. Madam clerk, can you please

[0:25] Time is approximately 2:30 p.m. Madam clerk, can you please

[0:25] Time is approximately 2:30 p.m. Madam clerk, can you please call the roll? Council member

[0:27] Madam clerk, can you please call the roll? Council member

[0:27] Madam clerk, can you please call the roll? Council member Lee. Present. Council member.

[0:29] call the roll? Council member Lee. Present. Council member.

[0:29] call the roll? Council member Lee. Present. Council member. Pryce. Absent. Council member

[0:31] Lee. Present. Council member. Pryce. Absent. Council member

[0:31] Lee. Present. Council member. Pryce. Absent. Council member McCusker. Here. Council member.

[0:33] Pryce. Absent. Council member McCusker. Here. Council member.

[0:34] Pryce. Absent. Council member McCusker. Here. Council member. Martinez here. Council member.

[0:35] McCusker. Here. Council member. Martinez here. Council member.

[0:35] McCusker. Here. Council member. Martinez here. Council member. Park. Absent. Three members

[0:37] Martinez here. Council member. Park. Absent. Three members

[0:37] Martinez here. Council member. Park. Absent. Three members present and a quorum. Mr. chair.

[0:38] Park. Absent. Three members present and a quorum. Mr. chair.

[0:38] Park. Absent. Three members present and a quorum. Mr. chair. All right. We will begin with

[0:40] present and a quorum. Mr. chair. All right. We will begin with

[0:40] present and a quorum. Mr. chair. All right. We will begin with public comment. Those that wish

[0:42] All right. We will begin with public comment. Those that wish

[0:42] All right. We will begin with public comment. Those that wish to speak can come to the podium.

[0:44] public comment. Those that wish to speak can come to the podium.

[0:44] public comment. Those that wish to speak can come to the podium. When I call your name, you'll

[0:45] to speak can come to the podium. When I call your name, you'll

[0:45] to speak can come to the podium. When I call your name, you'll have one minute for general

[0:47] When I call your name, you'll have one minute for general

[0:47] When I call your name, you'll have one minute for general public comment and one minute

[0:48] have one minute for general public comment and one minute

[0:48] have one minute for general public comment and one minute each for the items on the

[0:50] public comment and one minute each for the items on the

[0:50] public comment and one minute each for the items on the agenda for a maximum of three

[0:52] each for the items on the agenda for a maximum of three

[0:52] each for the items on the agenda for a maximum of three minutes. Mr. Yeager, can you

[0:55] agenda for a maximum of three minutes. Mr. Yeager, can you

[0:55] agenda for a maximum of three minutes. Mr. Yeager, can you please call the first name?

[0:56] minutes. Mr. Yeager, can you please call the first name?

[0:57] minutes. Mr. Yeager, can you please call the first name? First speaker is Andrew Grebner.

[0:59] please call the first name? First speaker is Andrew Grebner.

[0:59] please call the first name? First speaker is Andrew Grebner. You'll have two minutes for the

[1:00] First speaker is Andrew Grebner. You'll have two minutes for the

[1:00] First speaker is Andrew Grebner. You'll have two minutes for the item, one minute for general

[1:02] You'll have two minutes for the item, one minute for general

[1:02] You'll have two minutes for the item, one minute for general comment. If you can fly. Okay.

[1:12] item, one minute for general comment. If you can fly. Okay.

[1:12] item, one minute for general comment. If you can fly. Okay. So item one is related to the

[1:16] comment. If you can fly. Okay. So item one is related to the

[1:16] comment. If you can fly. Okay. So item one is related to the department patrol plans and

[1:18] So item one is related to the department patrol plans and

[1:18] So item one is related to the department patrol plans and basic car plans for 2025 and

[1:22] department patrol plans and basic car plans for 2025 and

[1:22] department patrol plans and basic car plans for 2025 and 2026. So how about we have less

[1:26] basic car plans for 2025 and 2026. So how about we have less

[1:26] basic car plans for 2025 and 2026. So how about we have less LAPD patrols and more valuable

[1:30] 2026. So how about we have less LAPD patrols and more valuable

[1:30] 2026. So how about we have less LAPD patrols and more valuable community services of things

[1:32] LAPD patrols and more valuable community services of things

[1:32] LAPD patrols and more valuable community services of things that actually keep people safe,

[1:34] community services of things that actually keep people safe,

[1:34] community services of things that actually keep people safe, instead of more policing? So we

[1:39] that actually keep people safe, instead of more policing? So we

[1:39] that actually keep people safe, instead of more policing? So we have item two, which is related

[1:42] instead of more policing? So we have item two, which is related

[1:42] instead of more policing? So we have item two, which is related to illegal cannabis operations

[1:46] have item two, which is related to illegal cannabis operations

[1:46] have item two, which is related to illegal cannabis operations present cannabis made legal in

[1:48] to illegal cannabis operations present cannabis made legal in

[1:48] to illegal cannabis operations present cannabis made legal in the city of LA. So this is

[1:53] present cannabis made legal in the city of LA. So this is

[1:53] present cannabis made legal in the city of LA. So this is possibly going to target legal

[1:55] the city of LA. So this is possibly going to target legal

[1:56] the city of LA. So this is possibly going to target legal cannabis operations, since

[1:57] possibly going to target legal cannabis operations, since

[1:57] possibly going to target legal cannabis operations, since that's what the LAPD tends to

[1:59] cannabis operations, since that's what the LAPD tends to

[2:00] cannabis operations, since that's what the LAPD tends to do is target stuff that they

[2:03] that's what the LAPD tends to do is target stuff that they

[2:03] that's what the LAPD tends to do is target stuff that they shouldn't be targeting. So we

[2:06] do is target stuff that they shouldn't be targeting. So we

[2:06] do is target stuff that they shouldn't be targeting. So we have item five, which is

[2:08] shouldn't be targeting. So we have item five, which is

[2:08] shouldn't be targeting. So we have item five, which is related to human trafficking

[2:11] have item five, which is related to human trafficking

[2:11] have item five, which is related to human trafficking task forces, while meanwhile

[2:12] related to human trafficking task forces, while meanwhile

[2:13] related to human trafficking task forces, while meanwhile the LAPD aids and abets and

[2:16] task forces, while meanwhile the LAPD aids and abets and

[2:16] task forces, while meanwhile the LAPD aids and abets and legalized human trafficking,

[2:17] the LAPD aids and abets and legalized human trafficking,

[2:18] the LAPD aids and abets and legalized human trafficking, also known as ice kidnapings,

[2:21] legalized human trafficking, also known as ice kidnapings,

[2:21] legalized human trafficking, also known as ice kidnapings, assisting and aiding and

[2:22] also known as ice kidnapings, assisting and aiding and

[2:22] also known as ice kidnapings, assisting and aiding and abetting those while lying and

[2:24] assisting and aiding and abetting those while lying and

[2:24] assisting and aiding and abetting those while lying and claiming that they aren't. So

[2:27] abetting those while lying and claiming that they aren't. So

[2:27] abetting those while lying and claiming that they aren't. So that's what the LAPD is doing.

[2:30] claiming that they aren't. So that's what the LAPD is doing.

[2:30] claiming that they aren't. So that's what the LAPD is doing. So item eight is related to dry

[2:34] that's what the LAPD is doing. So item eight is related to dry

[2:34] that's what the LAPD is doing. So item eight is related to dry suits for the maritime dive

[2:37] So item eight is related to dry suits for the maritime dive

[2:37] So item eight is related to dry suits for the maritime dive team. It seems like maybe some

[2:39] suits for the maritime dive team. It seems like maybe some

[2:39] suits for the maritime dive team. It seems like maybe some of this stuff is stuff that I'm

[2:41] team. It seems like maybe some of this stuff is stuff that I'm

[2:41] team. It seems like maybe some of this stuff is stuff that I'm guessing it's like rescues or

[2:43] of this stuff is stuff that I'm guessing it's like rescues or

[2:43] of this stuff is stuff that I'm guessing it's like rescues or whatever. Maybe this is stuff

[2:45] guessing it's like rescues or whatever. Maybe this is stuff

[2:45] guessing it's like rescues or whatever. Maybe this is stuff that should not be done by

[2:47] whatever. Maybe this is stuff that should not be done by

[2:47] whatever. Maybe this is stuff that should not be done by armed cops with a badge and a

[2:50] that should not be done by armed cops with a badge and a

[2:50] that should not be done by armed cops with a badge and a gun that are likely to end up

[2:53] armed cops with a badge and a gun that are likely to end up

[2:53] armed cops with a badge and a gun that are likely to end up being violent. We have item

[2:55] gun that are likely to end up being violent. We have item

[2:55] gun that are likely to end up being violent. We have item nine, which is related to a

[2:56] being violent. We have item nine, which is related to a

[2:56] being violent. We have item nine, which is related to a woman police officer's

[2:59] nine, which is related to a woman police officer's

[2:59] nine, which is related to a woman police officer's symposium. That is interesting

[3:02] woman police officer's symposium. That is interesting

[3:02] woman police officer's symposium. That is interesting since a lot of women have found

[3:06] symposium. That is interesting since a lot of women have found

[3:06] symposium. That is interesting since a lot of women have found that they get sexually abused

[3:09] since a lot of women have found that they get sexually abused

[3:09] since a lot of women have found that they get sexually abused by LAPD officers and they tend

[3:14] that they get sexually abused by LAPD officers and they tend

[3:14] that they get sexually abused by LAPD officers and they tend to come. And when women call

[3:17] by LAPD officers and they tend to come. And when women call

[3:17] by LAPD officers and they tend to come. And when women call them for help, when they're

[3:18] to come. And when women call them for help, when they're

[3:18] to come. And when women call them for help, when they're being sexually abused or

[3:21] them for help, when they're being sexually abused or

[3:21] them for help, when they're being sexually abused or attacked, the LAPD comes and

[3:22] being sexually abused or attacked, the LAPD comes and

[3:22] being sexually abused or attacked, the LAPD comes and targets the women. So that's

[3:25] attacked, the LAPD comes and targets the women. So that's

[3:25] attacked, the LAPD comes and targets the women. So that's certainly interesting. We have

[3:29] targets the women. So that's certainly interesting. We have

[3:29] targets the women. So that's certainly interesting. We have let's see, we have item 11,

[3:32] certainly interesting. We have let's see, we have item 11,

[3:32] certainly interesting. We have let's see, we have item 11, which is related to the robot

[3:34] let's see, we have item 11, which is related to the robot

[3:34] let's see, we have item 11, which is related to the robot dog ground vehicle inspection.

[3:37] which is related to the robot dog ground vehicle inspection.

[3:37] which is related to the robot dog ground vehicle inspection. This is more military equipment

[3:40] dog ground vehicle inspection. This is more military equipment

[3:40] dog ground vehicle inspection. This is more military equipment for the LAPD that they should

[3:42] This is more military equipment for the LAPD that they should

[3:42] This is more military equipment for the LAPD that they should not have. This stuff should be

[3:44] for the LAPD that they should not have. This stuff should be

[3:44] for the LAPD that they should not have. This stuff should be taken away from them. And they

[3:49] not have. This stuff should be taken away from them. And they

[3:49] not have. This stuff should be taken away from them. And they they're just used for more

[3:50] taken away from them. And they they're just used for more

[3:50] taken away from them. And they they're just used for more violence against the community.

[3:53] they're just used for more violence against the community.

[3:53] they're just used for more violence against the community. Now of course, this departments

[3:55] violence against the community. Now of course, this departments

[3:55] violence against the community. Now of course, this departments or this committee is run by

[3:59] Now of course, this departments or this committee is run by

[3:59] Now of course, this departments or this committee is run by criminals and themselves. We

[4:00] or this committee is run by criminals and themselves. We

[4:01] or this committee is run by criminals and themselves. We have city staff are B and Price

[4:03] criminals and themselves. We have city staff are B and Price

[4:03] criminals and themselves. We have city staff are B and Price Price who's not here. So yeah,

[4:10] have city staff are B and Price Price who's not here. So yeah,

[4:10] have city staff are B and Price Price who's not here. So yeah, they'll never admit if your

[4:11] Price who's not here. So yeah, they'll never admit if your

[4:11] Price who's not here. So yeah, they'll never admit if your staff are B, but we all know

[4:12] they'll never admit if your staff are B, but we all know

[4:13] they'll never admit if your staff are B, but we all know you are. Next speaker is Dustin

[4:17] staff are B, but we all know you are. Next speaker is Dustin

[4:17] staff are B, but we all know you are. Next speaker is Dustin go. You'll have two minutes for

[4:18] you are. Next speaker is Dustin go. You'll have two minutes for

[4:18] you are. Next speaker is Dustin go. You'll have two minutes for the items three and six. Okay.

[4:25] go. You'll have two minutes for the items three and six. Okay.

[4:25] go. You'll have two minutes for the items three and six. Okay. And then the next speaker after

[4:26] the items three and six. Okay. And then the next speaker after

[4:26] the items three and six. Okay. And then the next speaker after that will be Rachel Golding.

[4:39] And then the next speaker after that will be Rachel Golding.

[4:39] And then the next speaker after that will be Rachel Golding. Dustin, you'll have two minutes.

[4:46] that will be Rachel Golding. Dustin, you'll have two minutes.

[4:46] that will be Rachel Golding. Dustin, you'll have two minutes. There you go. Okay. Good

[4:52] Dustin, you'll have two minutes. There you go. Okay. Good

[4:52] Dustin, you'll have two minutes. There you go. Okay. Good afternoon. Members of the

[4:53] There you go. Okay. Good afternoon. Members of the

[4:53] There you go. Okay. Good afternoon. Members of the public Safety Committee. My

[4:54] afternoon. Members of the public Safety Committee. My

[4:54] afternoon. Members of the public Safety Committee. My name is Dustin Go and I

[4:55] public Safety Committee. My name is Dustin Go and I

[4:55] public Safety Committee. My name is Dustin Go and I represent we operate multiple

[4:58] name is Dustin Go and I represent we operate multiple

[4:58] name is Dustin Go and I represent we operate multiple cannabis locations throughout

[4:59] represent we operate multiple cannabis locations throughout

[4:59] represent we operate multiple cannabis locations throughout the city and the county of Los

[5:01] cannabis locations throughout the city and the county of Los

[5:01] cannabis locations throughout the city and the county of Los Angeles, and we support the

[5:02] the city and the county of Los Angeles, and we support the

[5:02] the city and the county of Los Angeles, and we support the city's effort to address the

[5:03] Angeles, and we support the city's effort to address the

[5:03] Angeles, and we support the city's effort to address the illegal cannabis market and

[5:04] city's effort to address the illegal cannabis market and

[5:05] city's effort to address the illegal cannabis market and improve public safety. I'm here

[5:07] illegal cannabis market and improve public safety. I'm here

[5:07] illegal cannabis market and improve public safety. I'm here today because our office,

[5:08] improve public safety. I'm here today because our office,

[5:08] improve public safety. I'm here today because our office, located at 2001 Alameda Street,

[5:11] today because our office, located at 2001 Alameda Street,

[5:11] today because our office, located at 2001 Alameda Street, has been experiencing ongoing

[5:12] located at 2001 Alameda Street, has been experiencing ongoing

[5:12] located at 2001 Alameda Street, has been experiencing ongoing issues related to homeless

[5:14] has been experiencing ongoing issues related to homeless

[5:14] has been experiencing ongoing issues related to homeless encampments along Macquarie

[5:15] issues related to homeless encampments along Macquarie

[5:15] issues related to homeless encampments along Macquarie Street. At this location, we've

[5:16] encampments along Macquarie Street. At this location, we've

[5:17] encampments along Macquarie Street. At this location, we've seen repeated incidents of

[5:18] Street. At this location, we've seen repeated incidents of

[5:18] Street. At this location, we've seen repeated incidents of copper wiring being stripped

[5:19] seen repeated incidents of copper wiring being stripped

[5:20] seen repeated incidents of copper wiring being stripped and burned at the streets as,

[5:22] copper wiring being stripped and burned at the streets as,

[5:22] copper wiring being stripped and burned at the streets as, as a as well as large scale

[5:24] and burned at the streets as, as a as well as large scale

[5:24] and burned at the streets as, as a as well as large scale illegal dumping. We have video

[5:26] as a as well as large scale illegal dumping. We have video

[5:26] as a as well as large scale illegal dumping. We have video footage showing multiple green

[5:27] illegal dumping. We have video footage showing multiple green

[5:27] illegal dumping. We have video footage showing multiple green dump trucks unloading

[5:29] footage showing multiple green dump trucks unloading

[5:29] footage showing multiple green dump trucks unloading significant amounts of trash

[5:29] dump trucks unloading significant amounts of trash

[5:29] dump trucks unloading significant amounts of trash and debris in the area, most

[5:32] significant amounts of trash and debris in the area, most

[5:32] significant amounts of trash and debris in the area, most recently on on Tuesday, January

[5:35] and debris in the area, most recently on on Tuesday, January

[5:35] and debris in the area, most recently on on Tuesday, January 20th, a fire broke out at the

[5:37] recently on on Tuesday, January 20th, a fire broke out at the

[5:37] recently on on Tuesday, January 20th, a fire broke out at the encampment and required

[5:37] 20th, a fire broke out at the encampment and required

[5:37] 20th, a fire broke out at the encampment and required intervention from this Los

[5:38] encampment and required intervention from this Los

[5:38] encampment and required intervention from this Los Angeles Fire Department. That

[5:40] intervention from this Los Angeles Fire Department. That

[5:41] intervention from this Los Angeles Fire Department. That incident heightened serious

[5:42] Angeles Fire Department. That incident heightened serious

[5:42] Angeles Fire Department. That incident heightened serious concern for the safety of our

[5:44] incident heightened serious concern for the safety of our

[5:44] incident heightened serious concern for the safety of our employees, nearby businesses

[5:45] concern for the safety of our employees, nearby businesses

[5:45] concern for the safety of our employees, nearby businesses and first responders. We

[5:47] employees, nearby businesses and first responders. We

[5:47] employees, nearby businesses and first responders. We appreciate the city's continued

[5:49] and first responders. We appreciate the city's continued

[5:49] and first responders. We appreciate the city's continued attention to homelessness and

[5:50] appreciate the city's continued attention to homelessness and

[5:50] appreciate the city's continued attention to homelessness and public safety citywide, and we

[5:52] attention to homelessness and public safety citywide, and we

[5:52] attention to homelessness and public safety citywide, and we also wanted to thank Council

[5:54] public safety citywide, and we also wanted to thank Council

[5:54] public safety citywide, and we also wanted to thank Council District nine for previous

[5:56] also wanted to thank Council District nine for previous

[5:56] also wanted to thank Council District nine for previous cleanups on Macquarie Street.

[5:57] District nine for previous cleanups on Macquarie Street.

[5:57] District nine for previous cleanups on Macquarie Street. At this point, we were

[5:58] cleanups on Macquarie Street. At this point, we were

[5:59] cleanups on Macquarie Street. At this point, we were respectfully requesting

[6:00] At this point, we were respectfully requesting

[6:00] At this point, we were respectfully requesting additional assistance to help

[6:01] respectfully requesting additional assistance to help

[6:01] respectfully requesting additional assistance to help address the ongoing issues at

[6:03] additional assistance to help address the ongoing issues at

[6:03] additional assistance to help address the ongoing issues at this location. We are eager to

[6:05] address the ongoing issues at this location. We are eager to

[6:05] address the ongoing issues at this location. We are eager to collaboratively work with the

[6:07] this location. We are eager to collaboratively work with the

[6:07] this location. We are eager to collaboratively work with the city and improve safety,

[6:08] collaboratively work with the city and improve safety,

[6:08] collaboratively work with the city and improve safety, cleanliness and overall

[6:09] city and improve safety, cleanliness and overall

[6:09] city and improve safety, cleanliness and overall conditions on Macquarie Street.

[6:10] cleanliness and overall conditions on Macquarie Street.

[6:10] cleanliness and overall conditions on Macquarie Street. Thank you. Thank you, Rachel

[6:14] conditions on Macquarie Street. Thank you. Thank you, Rachel

[6:14] conditions on Macquarie Street. Thank you. Thank you, Rachel Golding. You'll have two

[6:15] Thank you. Thank you, Rachel Golding. You'll have two

[6:15] Thank you. Thank you, Rachel Golding. You'll have two minutes for items three and six

[6:17] Golding. You'll have two minutes for items three and six

[6:17] Golding. You'll have two minutes for items three and six and the next speaker will be

[6:18] minutes for items three and six and the next speaker will be

[6:18] minutes for items three and six and the next speaker will be Laura FM. Good afternoon,

[6:22] and the next speaker will be Laura FM. Good afternoon,

[6:22] and the next speaker will be Laura FM. Good afternoon, Council members. My name is

[6:24] Laura FM. Good afternoon, Council members. My name is

[6:24] Laura FM. Good afternoon, Council members. My name is Rachel Golding and I work for

[6:26] Council members. My name is Rachel Golding and I work for

[6:26] Council members. My name is Rachel Golding and I work for Please state at 2001 Alameda

[6:28] Rachel Golding and I work for Please state at 2001 Alameda

[6:29] Rachel Golding and I work for Please state at 2001 Alameda Street. I want to begin by

[6:31] Please state at 2001 Alameda Street. I want to begin by

[6:31] Please state at 2001 Alameda Street. I want to begin by expressing our support for the

[6:32] Street. I want to begin by expressing our support for the

[6:32] Street. I want to begin by expressing our support for the city's efforts to address the

[6:33] expressing our support for the city's efforts to address the

[6:34] expressing our support for the city's efforts to address the illegal cannabis market and

[6:35] city's efforts to address the illegal cannabis market and

[6:35] city's efforts to address the illegal cannabis market and improve public safety

[6:37] illegal cannabis market and improve public safety

[6:37] illegal cannabis market and improve public safety throughout Los Angeles. I'm

[6:38] improve public safety throughout Los Angeles. I'm

[6:39] improve public safety throughout Los Angeles. I'm here today as an employee who

[6:40] throughout Los Angeles. I'm here today as an employee who

[6:40] throughout Los Angeles. I'm here today as an employee who parks on McGarry Street when

[6:43] here today as an employee who parks on McGarry Street when

[6:43] here today as an employee who parks on McGarry Street when coming to and leaving work.

[6:45] parks on McGarry Street when coming to and leaving work.

[6:45] parks on McGarry Street when coming to and leaving work. Over time, the conditions in

[6:46] coming to and leaving work. Over time, the conditions in

[6:46] coming to and leaving work. Over time, the conditions in this area have made many of us

[6:49] Over time, the conditions in this area have made many of us

[6:49] Over time, the conditions in this area have made many of us feel uncomfortable and at times

[6:51] this area have made many of us feel uncomfortable and at times

[6:51] this area have made many of us feel uncomfortable and at times fearful for the personal safety,

[6:52] feel uncomfortable and at times fearful for the personal safety,

[6:53] feel uncomfortable and at times fearful for the personal safety, for our personal safety,

[6:54] fearful for the personal safety, for our personal safety,

[6:54] fearful for the personal safety, for our personal safety, especially when walking to and

[6:56] for our personal safety, especially when walking to and

[6:56] for our personal safety, especially when walking to and from our cars early in the

[6:57] especially when walking to and from our cars early in the

[6:57] especially when walking to and from our cars early in the morning and later in the day.

[6:59] from our cars early in the morning and later in the day.

[6:59] from our cars early in the morning and later in the day. Because of these concerns,

[7:01] morning and later in the day. Because of these concerns,

[7:01] morning and later in the day. Because of these concerns, Please state security now

[7:03] Because of these concerns, Please state security now

[7:03] Because of these concerns, Please state security now regularly escorts employees to

[7:05] Please state security now regularly escorts employees to

[7:05] Please state security now regularly escorts employees to their vehicles, which shows how

[7:07] regularly escorts employees to their vehicles, which shows how

[7:07] regularly escorts employees to their vehicles, which shows how serious the situation has

[7:08] their vehicles, which shows how serious the situation has

[7:08] their vehicles, which shows how serious the situation has become. Most recently, some

[7:11] serious the situation has become. Most recently, some

[7:11] serious the situation has become. Most recently, some employees had objects thrown at

[7:12] become. Most recently, some employees had objects thrown at

[7:12] become. Most recently, some employees had objects thrown at their cars as they were leaving

[7:14] employees had objects thrown at their cars as they were leaving

[7:15] employees had objects thrown at their cars as they were leaving the parking lot at the end of

[7:16] their cars as they were leaving the parking lot at the end of

[7:16] their cars as they were leaving the parking lot at the end of the workday. I understand that

[7:18] the parking lot at the end of the workday. I understand that

[7:18] the parking lot at the end of the workday. I understand that homelessness is a complex and

[7:19] the workday. I understand that homelessness is a complex and

[7:19] the workday. I understand that homelessness is a complex and sensitive issue, and I

[7:21] homelessness is a complex and sensitive issue, and I

[7:21] homelessness is a complex and sensitive issue, and I appreciate the city's continued

[7:22] sensitive issue, and I appreciate the city's continued

[7:22] sensitive issue, and I appreciate the city's continued effort to address it. I'm

[7:24] appreciate the city's continued effort to address it. I'm

[7:24] appreciate the city's continued effort to address it. I'm simply asking for additional

[7:26] effort to address it. I'm simply asking for additional

[7:26] effort to address it. I'm simply asking for additional help with this specific area so

[7:28] simply asking for additional help with this specific area so

[7:28] simply asking for additional help with this specific area so employees can feel safe, safer

[7:30] help with this specific area so employees can feel safe, safer

[7:30] help with this specific area so employees can feel safe, safer going to work, and getting home

[7:31] employees can feel safe, safer going to work, and getting home

[7:32] employees can feel safe, safer going to work, and getting home at the end of the day. Lastly,

[7:34] going to work, and getting home at the end of the day. Lastly,

[7:34] going to work, and getting home at the end of the day. Lastly, I'd like to thank Council

[7:35] at the end of the day. Lastly, I'd like to thank Council

[7:35] at the end of the day. Lastly, I'd like to thank Council District nine for the previous

[7:37] I'd like to thank Council District nine for the previous

[7:37] I'd like to thank Council District nine for the previous cleanup efforts along Macquarie

[7:39] District nine for the previous cleanup efforts along Macquarie

[7:39] District nine for the previous cleanup efforts along Macquarie Street. We truly appreciate

[7:41] cleanup efforts along Macquarie Street. We truly appreciate

[7:41] cleanup efforts along Macquarie Street. We truly appreciate that support and hope further

[7:42] Street. We truly appreciate that support and hope further

[7:42] Street. We truly appreciate that support and hope further assistance can help improve

[7:44] that support and hope further assistance can help improve

[7:44] that support and hope further assistance can help improve safety moving forward. Thank

[7:45] assistance can help improve safety moving forward. Thank

[7:45] assistance can help improve safety moving forward. Thank you for your time and

[7:47] safety moving forward. Thank you for your time and

[7:47] safety moving forward. Thank you for your time and consideration. Thank you. Next

[7:50] you for your time and consideration. Thank you. Next

[7:50] you for your time and consideration. Thank you. Next speaker, Laura FM. You'll have

[7:52] consideration. Thank you. Next speaker, Laura FM. You'll have

[7:52] consideration. Thank you. Next speaker, Laura FM. You'll have two minutes for the items, one

[7:53] speaker, Laura FM. You'll have two minutes for the items, one

[7:53] speaker, Laura FM. You'll have two minutes for the items, one minute for general comment,

[7:54] two minutes for the items, one minute for general comment,

[7:54] two minutes for the items, one minute for general comment, followed by audit LA. Okay. Hi,

[7:56] minute for general comment, followed by audit LA. Okay. Hi,

[7:56] minute for general comment, followed by audit LA. Okay. Hi, I'm going to do a number ten.

[8:01] followed by audit LA. Okay. Hi, I'm going to do a number ten.

[8:01] followed by audit LA. Okay. Hi, I'm going to do a number ten. So I was reading here it says

[8:03] I'm going to do a number ten. So I was reading here it says

[8:03] I'm going to do a number ten. So I was reading here it says the report from Board of Police

[8:05] So I was reading here it says the report from Board of Police

[8:05] So I was reading here it says the report from Board of Police Commissioners relative to

[8:06] the report from Board of Police Commissioners relative to

[8:06] the report from Board of Police Commissioners relative to accepting a non monetary

[8:09] Commissioners relative to accepting a non monetary

[8:09] Commissioners relative to accepting a non monetary donation valued at $250,000.

[8:13] accepting a non monetary donation valued at $250,000.

[8:13] accepting a non monetary donation valued at $250,000. What if let's just think about

[8:15] donation valued at $250,000. What if let's just think about

[8:15] donation valued at $250,000. What if let's just think about this. What if Scientology is

[8:18] What if let's just think about this. What if Scientology is

[8:18] What if let's just think about this. What if Scientology is donating that $250,000? Where

[8:21] this. What if Scientology is donating that $250,000? Where

[8:21] this. What if Scientology is donating that $250,000? Where where do the public get any

[8:23] donating that $250,000? Where where do the public get any

[8:23] donating that $250,000? Where where do the public get any sort of transparency as to

[8:27] where do the public get any sort of transparency as to

[8:27] where do the public get any sort of transparency as to where the money comes, where it

[8:29] sort of transparency as to where the money comes, where it

[8:29] sort of transparency as to where the money comes, where it comes from? And also, is that

[8:31] where the money comes, where it comes from? And also, is that

[8:31] where the money comes, where it comes from? And also, is that even legal Chair and state,

[8:33] comes from? And also, is that even legal Chair and state,

[8:33] comes from? And also, is that even legal Chair and state, right. We have laws between

[8:34] even legal Chair and state, right. We have laws between

[8:35] even legal Chair and state, right. We have laws between church and state. Do you just

[8:37] right. We have laws between church and state. Do you just

[8:37] right. We have laws between church and state. Do you just accept millions of dollars from

[8:39] church and state. Do you just accept millions of dollars from

[8:39] church and state. Do you just accept millions of dollars from or thousands or say, $250,000,

[8:42] accept millions of dollars from or thousands or say, $250,000,

[8:42] accept millions of dollars from or thousands or say, $250,000, as long as it comes from the

[8:44] or thousands or say, $250,000, as long as it comes from the

[8:44] or thousands or say, $250,000, as long as it comes from the Church of Scientology? Is that

[8:46] as long as it comes from the Church of Scientology? Is that

[8:46] as long as it comes from the Church of Scientology? Is that okay? Would that be okay with

[8:48] Church of Scientology? Is that okay? Would that be okay with

[8:48] Church of Scientology? Is that okay? Would that be okay with you, Hugo, if you saw that,

[8:49] okay? Would that be okay with you, Hugo, if you saw that,

[8:50] okay? Would that be okay with you, Hugo, if you saw that, would you say, I'm not going to

[8:51] you, Hugo, if you saw that, would you say, I'm not going to

[8:51] you, Hugo, if you saw that, would you say, I'm not going to accept this or would you

[8:52] would you say, I'm not going to accept this or would you

[8:53] would you say, I'm not going to accept this or would you receive it? Would you take it?

[8:54] accept this or would you receive it? Would you take it?

[8:54] accept this or would you receive it? Would you take it? Is there is there some

[8:56] receive it? Would you take it? Is there is there some

[8:56] receive it? Would you take it? Is there is there some transparency where the the

[8:58] Is there is there some transparency where the the

[8:58] Is there is there some transparency where the the board can actually say, okay,

[9:00] transparency where the the board can actually say, okay,

[9:00] transparency where the the board can actually say, okay, we're not going to be accepting

[9:02] board can actually say, okay, we're not going to be accepting

[9:02] board can actually say, okay, we're not going to be accepting donations from religious

[9:04] we're not going to be accepting donations from religious

[9:04] we're not going to be accepting donations from religious institutes if it's going to be

[9:05] donations from religious institutes if it's going to be

[9:05] donations from religious institutes if it's going to be a bribery into the city and

[9:09] institutes if it's going to be a bribery into the city and

[9:09] institutes if it's going to be a bribery into the city and into it's infiltrating into

[9:10] a bribery into the city and into it's infiltrating into

[9:10] a bribery into the city and into it's infiltrating into every single job, whether

[9:12] into it's infiltrating into every single job, whether

[9:12] into it's infiltrating into every single job, whether that's taking care of homeless

[9:14] every single job, whether that's taking care of homeless

[9:14] every single job, whether that's taking care of homeless people, mental ill, all of that.

[9:16] that's taking care of homeless people, mental ill, all of that.

[9:16] that's taking care of homeless people, mental ill, all of that. So if there is some sort of

[9:18] people, mental ill, all of that. So if there is some sort of

[9:18] people, mental ill, all of that. So if there is some sort of ethical person who's not going

[9:20] So if there is some sort of ethical person who's not going

[9:20] So if there is some sort of ethical person who's not going to cheat people or cheat the

[9:22] ethical person who's not going to cheat people or cheat the

[9:22] ethical person who's not going to cheat people or cheat the city, or try to get free

[9:23] to cheat people or cheat the city, or try to get free

[9:23] to cheat people or cheat the city, or try to get free insurance for their second wife,

[9:25] city, or try to get free insurance for their second wife,

[9:25] city, or try to get free insurance for their second wife, that they shouldn't be married

[9:27] insurance for their second wife, that they shouldn't be married

[9:27] insurance for their second wife, that they shouldn't be married to, then there needs to be

[9:29] that they shouldn't be married to, then there needs to be

[9:29] that they shouldn't be married to, then there needs to be somebody on the board that's

[9:31] to, then there needs to be somebody on the board that's

[9:31] to, then there needs to be somebody on the board that's transparent about this.

[9:32] somebody on the board that's transparent about this.

[9:32] somebody on the board that's transparent about this. Otherwise I would. I'm going to

[9:33] transparent about this. Otherwise I would. I'm going to

[9:33] transparent about this. Otherwise I would. I'm going to be digging into this 250 non

[9:37] Otherwise I would. I'm going to be digging into this 250 non

[9:37] Otherwise I would. I'm going to be digging into this 250 non monetary donation. That seems

[9:38] be digging into this 250 non monetary donation. That seems

[9:38] be digging into this 250 non monetary donation. That seems like the biggest laundering

[9:40] monetary donation. That seems like the biggest laundering

[9:40] monetary donation. That seems like the biggest laundering fraud scam when it comes to

[9:42] like the biggest laundering fraud scam when it comes to

[9:42] like the biggest laundering fraud scam when it comes to religions or even corporations

[9:44] fraud scam when it comes to religions or even corporations

[9:44] fraud scam when it comes to religions or even corporations or fake organizations hiding

[9:45] religions or even corporations or fake organizations hiding

[9:45] religions or even corporations or fake organizations hiding behind Scientology's tactics,

[9:48] or fake organizations hiding behind Scientology's tactics,

[9:48] or fake organizations hiding behind Scientology's tactics, being able to donate that money.

[9:50] behind Scientology's tactics, being able to donate that money.

[9:50] behind Scientology's tactics, being able to donate that money. And you guys would say nothing

[9:51] being able to donate that money. And you guys would say nothing

[9:51] being able to donate that money. And you guys would say nothing about it, right. Because you

[9:53] And you guys would say nothing about it, right. Because you

[9:53] And you guys would say nothing about it, right. Because you could just say, oh, it's

[9:55] about it, right. Because you could just say, oh, it's

[9:55] about it, right. Because you could just say, oh, it's non-monetary. So there needs to

[9:58] could just say, oh, it's non-monetary. So there needs to

[9:58] could just say, oh, it's non-monetary. So there needs to be some some ethical person

[10:01] non-monetary. So there needs to be some some ethical person

[10:01] non-monetary. So there needs to be some some ethical person who's able to monitor or if

[10:03] be some some ethical person who's able to monitor or if

[10:03] be some some ethical person who's able to monitor or if it's not going to be

[10:05] who's able to monitor or if it's not going to be

[10:05] who's able to monitor or if it's not going to be transparent to the world,

[10:06] it's not going to be transparent to the world,

[10:06] it's not going to be transparent to the world, you're going to be able to see

[10:07] transparent to the world, you're going to be able to see

[10:07] transparent to the world, you're going to be able to see why wouldn't you be transparent

[10:09] you're going to be able to see why wouldn't you be transparent

[10:09] you're going to be able to see why wouldn't you be transparent anyways to the city where the

[10:10] why wouldn't you be transparent anyways to the city where the

[10:10] why wouldn't you be transparent anyways to the city where the money is coming that is being

[10:12] anyways to the city where the money is coming that is being

[10:12] anyways to the city where the money is coming that is being donated to the LAPD. How is

[10:15] money is coming that is being donated to the LAPD. How is

[10:15] money is coming that is being donated to the LAPD. How is that safety? If your money is

[10:17] donated to the LAPD. How is that safety? If your money is

[10:17] donated to the LAPD. How is that safety? If your money is literally being donated by

[10:19] that safety? If your money is literally being donated by

[10:19] that safety? If your money is literally being donated by trafficking human trafficking

[10:21] literally being donated by trafficking human trafficking

[10:21] literally being donated by trafficking human trafficking cults? So that's a big issue

[10:22] trafficking human trafficking cults? So that's a big issue

[10:22] trafficking human trafficking cults? So that's a big issue for me. All right. I'm going to

[10:24] cults? So that's a big issue for me. All right. I'm going to

[10:24] cults? So that's a big issue for me. All right. I'm going to go to my general public comment.

[10:28] for me. All right. I'm going to go to my general public comment.

[10:28] for me. All right. I'm going to go to my general public comment. And so for the safety of the

[10:31] go to my general public comment. And so for the safety of the

[10:31] go to my general public comment. And so for the safety of the public, please, we're going to

[10:34] And so for the safety of the public, please, we're going to

[10:34] And so for the safety of the public, please, we're going to talk about psychiatry and

[10:35] public, please, we're going to talk about psychiatry and

[10:35] public, please, we're going to talk about psychiatry and mental health and getting

[10:38] talk about psychiatry and mental health and getting

[10:38] talk about psychiatry and mental health and getting people, even people who want to

[10:39] mental health and getting people, even people who want to

[10:39] mental health and getting people, even people who want to join the LAPD or any city

[10:42] people, even people who want to join the LAPD or any city

[10:42] people, even people who want to join the LAPD or any city position. You cannot have

[10:44] join the LAPD or any city position. You cannot have

[10:44] join the LAPD or any city position. You cannot have people who are saying that they

[10:47] position. You cannot have people who are saying that they

[10:47] position. You cannot have people who are saying that they an organization who hides

[10:48] people who are saying that they an organization who hides

[10:48] people who are saying that they an organization who hides behind a religion. Whether we

[10:50] an organization who hides behind a religion. Whether we

[10:50] an organization who hides behind a religion. Whether we accept that or not, you cannot

[10:52] behind a religion. Whether we accept that or not, you cannot

[10:52] behind a religion. Whether we accept that or not, you cannot have them dealing or

[10:54] accept that or not, you cannot have them dealing or

[10:54] accept that or not, you cannot have them dealing or intermingling with Chair with

[10:56] have them dealing or intermingling with Chair with

[10:56] have them dealing or intermingling with Chair with or with state. To me, that's a

[10:58] intermingling with Chair with or with state. To me, that's a

[10:58] intermingling with Chair with or with state. To me, that's a big, big problem. So please

[11:00] or with state. To me, that's a big, big problem. So please

[11:00] or with state. To me, that's a big, big problem. So please check into that. Speaker next

[11:01] big, big problem. So please check into that. Speaker next

[11:01] big, big problem. So please check into that. Speaker next speaker order LA, you'll have

[11:03] check into that. Speaker next speaker order LA, you'll have

[11:03] check into that. Speaker next speaker order LA, you'll have two minutes for the item, one

[11:04] speaker order LA, you'll have two minutes for the item, one

[11:05] speaker order LA, you'll have two minutes for the item, one minute for general, followed by

[11:06] two minutes for the item, one minute for general, followed by

[11:06] two minutes for the item, one minute for general, followed by the final speaker on the queue,

[11:07] minute for general, followed by the final speaker on the queue,

[11:07] minute for general, followed by the final speaker on the queue, Ty Foreman. All right. Good

[11:09] the final speaker on the queue, Ty Foreman. All right. Good

[11:09] the final speaker on the queue, Ty Foreman. All right. Good afternoon. Okay I want to start

[11:12] Ty Foreman. All right. Good afternoon. Okay I want to start

[11:13] Ty Foreman. All right. Good afternoon. Okay I want to start off with okay. You have a

[11:14] afternoon. Okay I want to start off with okay. You have a

[11:14] afternoon. Okay I want to start off with okay. You have a person there 90 years old. Okay.

[11:16] off with okay. You have a person there 90 years old. Okay.

[11:16] off with okay. You have a person there 90 years old. Okay. So say they started working at

[11:17] person there 90 years old. Okay. So say they started working at

[11:18] person there 90 years old. Okay. So say they started working at 15. That's what, 75 years of

[11:20] So say they started working at 15. That's what, 75 years of

[11:20] So say they started working at 15. That's what, 75 years of paying taxes. They, you know,

[11:23] 15. That's what, 75 years of paying taxes. They, you know,

[11:23] 15. That's what, 75 years of paying taxes. They, you know, great citizens raised a family,

[11:25] paying taxes. They, you know, great citizens raised a family,

[11:25] paying taxes. They, you know, great citizens raised a family, you know. And then now they're

[11:26] great citizens raised a family, you know. And then now they're

[11:26] great citizens raised a family, you know. And then now they're in a nursing home and they're

[11:28] you know. And then now they're in a nursing home and they're

[11:28] you know. And then now they're in a nursing home and they're 90 and they fall out of bed and

[11:32] in a nursing home and they're 90 and they fall out of bed and

[11:32] in a nursing home and they're 90 and they fall out of bed and the nurse has a back ache, a

[11:33] 90 and they fall out of bed and the nurse has a back ache, a

[11:33] 90 and they fall out of bed and the nurse has a back ache, a really bad back. So they call

[11:35] the nurse has a back ache, a really bad back. So they call

[11:35] the nurse has a back ache, a really bad back. So they call the fire department to come

[11:36] really bad back. So they call the fire department to come

[11:37] really bad back. So they call the fire department to come help them lift the, you know,

[11:38] the fire department to come help them lift the, you know,

[11:38] the fire department to come help them lift the, you know, grandma, your grandmother or

[11:40] help them lift the, you know, grandma, your grandmother or

[11:40] help them lift the, you know, grandma, your grandmother or grandfather up and get them

[11:41] grandma, your grandmother or grandfather up and get them

[11:41] grandma, your grandmother or grandfather up and get them back in bed. And you want to

[11:43] grandfather up and get them back in bed. And you want to

[11:43] grandfather up and get them back in bed. And you want to charge him a fee? Are you

[11:44] back in bed. And you want to charge him a fee? Are you

[11:44] back in bed. And you want to charge him a fee? Are you kidding me? If you all say yes

[11:46] charge him a fee? Are you kidding me? If you all say yes

[11:46] charge him a fee? Are you kidding me? If you all say yes to this, I will roast you all

[11:48] kidding me? If you all say yes to this, I will roast you all

[11:48] kidding me? If you all say yes to this, I will roast you all for the rest of your days on

[11:51] to this, I will roast you all for the rest of your days on

[11:51] to this, I will roast you all for the rest of your days on this commission. I will not put

[11:52] for the rest of your days on this commission. I will not put

[11:52] for the rest of your days on this commission. I will not put up with that. That you would do

[11:54] this commission. I will not put up with that. That you would do

[11:54] this commission. I will not put up with that. That you would do that? Like. How dare you! You

[11:56] up with that. That you would do that? Like. How dare you! You

[11:56] up with that. That you would do that? Like. How dare you! You want to get fees? Go ask

[11:58] that? Like. How dare you! You want to get fees? Go ask

[11:58] that? Like. How dare you! You want to get fees? Go ask Scientology. Who doesn't pay

[11:59] want to get fees? Go ask Scientology. Who doesn't pay

[12:00] want to get fees? Go ask Scientology. Who doesn't pay any taxes. They own all the

[12:02] Scientology. Who doesn't pay any taxes. They own all the

[12:02] Scientology. Who doesn't pay any taxes. They own all the real estate, the biggest real

[12:03] any taxes. They own all the real estate, the biggest real

[12:03] any taxes. They own all the real estate, the biggest real estate owners. And they do

[12:05] real estate, the biggest real estate owners. And they do

[12:05] real estate, the biggest real estate owners. And they do nothing for the city. They

[12:06] estate owners. And they do nothing for the city. They

[12:06] estate owners. And they do nothing for the city. They don't even pay their fees for

[12:08] nothing for the city. They don't even pay their fees for

[12:08] nothing for the city. They don't even pay their fees for their events and special events.

[12:10] don't even pay their fees for their events and special events.

[12:10] don't even pay their fees for their events and special events. But you want to tax grandma

[12:12] their events and special events. But you want to tax grandma

[12:12] their events and special events. But you want to tax grandma when they fall? Are you kidding

[12:14] But you want to tax grandma when they fall? Are you kidding

[12:14] But you want to tax grandma when they fall? Are you kidding me? Like for real? You do it

[12:17] when they fall? Are you kidding me? Like for real? You do it

[12:17] when they fall? Are you kidding me? Like for real? You do it and I will, I will, I'll become

[12:19] me? Like for real? You do it and I will, I will, I'll become

[12:19] me? Like for real? You do it and I will, I will, I'll become the biggest troll because that

[12:20] and I will, I will, I'll become the biggest troll because that

[12:20] and I will, I will, I'll become the biggest troll because that is so ridiculous that better?

[12:22] the biggest troll because that is so ridiculous that better?

[12:22] the biggest troll because that is so ridiculous that better? It better be. No, you're not

[12:24] is so ridiculous that better? It better be. No, you're not

[12:24] is so ridiculous that better? It better be. No, you're not going to be that desperate for

[12:25] It better be. No, you're not going to be that desperate for

[12:25] It better be. No, you're not going to be that desperate for money, that you're going to do

[12:27] going to be that desperate for money, that you're going to do

[12:27] going to be that desperate for money, that you're going to do that to a senior that is so

[12:29] money, that you're going to do that to a senior that is so

[12:29] money, that you're going to do that to a senior that is so offensive. Like, I'm so

[12:30] that to a senior that is so offensive. Like, I'm so

[12:30] that to a senior that is so offensive. Like, I'm so offended that that even made it

[12:32] offensive. Like, I'm so offended that that even made it

[12:32] offensive. Like, I'm so offended that that even made it to the how did it even get? Who

[12:34] offended that that even made it to the how did it even get? Who

[12:34] offended that that even made it to the how did it even get? Who even recommended that? I don't

[12:35] to the how did it even get? Who even recommended that? I don't

[12:35] to the how did it even get? Who even recommended that? I don't even look, I hope it wasn't you,

[12:37] even recommended that? I don't even look, I hope it wasn't you,

[12:37] even recommended that? I don't even look, I hope it wasn't you, Mr. Lee, because I kind of

[12:39] even look, I hope it wasn't you, Mr. Lee, because I kind of

[12:39] even look, I hope it wasn't you, Mr. Lee, because I kind of liked some of your stuff. It

[12:40] Mr. Lee, because I kind of liked some of your stuff. It

[12:40] Mr. Lee, because I kind of liked some of your stuff. It better not and Mr. You're not.

[12:42] liked some of your stuff. It better not and Mr. You're not.

[12:42] liked some of your stuff. It better not and Mr. You're not. You're going to owe me another

[12:43] better not and Mr. You're not. You're going to owe me another

[12:43] better not and Mr. You're not. You're going to owe me another apology and Mr. Hugo too,

[12:44] You're going to owe me another apology and Mr. Hugo too,

[12:44] You're going to owe me another apology and Mr. Hugo too, because you're not listening.

[12:45] apology and Mr. Hugo too, because you're not listening.

[12:45] apology and Mr. Hugo too, because you're not listening. It's my time to talk. You have

[12:47] because you're not listening. It's my time to talk. You have

[12:47] because you're not listening. It's my time to talk. You have to listen. Thank you, Mr.

[12:48] It's my time to talk. You have to listen. Thank you, Mr.

[12:48] It's my time to talk. You have to listen. Thank you, Mr. McCusker. Because you do listen,

[12:50] to listen. Thank you, Mr. McCusker. Because you do listen,

[12:50] to listen. Thank you, Mr. McCusker. Because you do listen, and I appreciate you for that.

[12:51] McCusker. Because you do listen, and I appreciate you for that.

[12:51] McCusker. Because you do listen, and I appreciate you for that. But you're not going to sit if

[12:53] and I appreciate you for that. But you're not going to sit if

[12:53] and I appreciate you for that. But you're not going to sit if you do it, so help me. That's

[12:55] But you're not going to sit if you do it, so help me. That's

[12:55] But you're not going to sit if you do it, so help me. That's ridiculous. Okay, now for the

[12:56] you do it, so help me. That's ridiculous. Okay, now for the

[12:56] you do it, so help me. That's ridiculous. Okay, now for the human trafficking. Okay. Do you

[12:57] ridiculous. Okay, now for the human trafficking. Okay. Do you

[12:57] ridiculous. Okay, now for the human trafficking. Okay. Do you understand that? You know,

[12:58] human trafficking. Okay. Do you understand that? You know,

[12:58] human trafficking. Okay. Do you understand that? You know, there's different kinds of

[12:59] understand that? You know, there's different kinds of

[12:59] understand that? You know, there's different kinds of human trafficking, and it's

[13:00] there's different kinds of human trafficking, and it's

[13:00] there's different kinds of human trafficking, and it's human trafficking month. Mr.

[13:02] human trafficking, and it's human trafficking month. Mr.

[13:02] human trafficking, and it's human trafficking month. Mr. Lee and, Mr. Hugo, do you

[13:04] human trafficking month. Mr. Lee and, Mr. Hugo, do you

[13:04] human trafficking month. Mr. Lee and, Mr. Hugo, do you realize that Scientology labor

[13:06] Lee and, Mr. Hugo, do you realize that Scientology labor

[13:06] Lee and, Mr. Hugo, do you realize that Scientology labor traffics people in your area

[13:09] realize that Scientology labor traffics people in your area

[13:09] realize that Scientology labor traffics people in your area and your district? Mr. Hugo,

[13:12] traffics people in your area and your district? Mr. Hugo,

[13:12] traffics people in your area and your district? Mr. Hugo, Scientology is human

[13:14] and your district? Mr. Hugo, Scientology is human

[13:14] and your district? Mr. Hugo, Scientology is human trafficking for labor. They're

[13:15] Scientology is human trafficking for labor. They're

[13:16] Scientology is human trafficking for labor. They're bringing people from in

[13:16] trafficking for labor. They're bringing people from in

[13:16] trafficking for labor. They're bringing people from in different countries as

[13:18] bringing people from in different countries as

[13:18] bringing people from in different countries as indentured servants on R-2 visa,

[13:21] different countries as indentured servants on R-2 visa,

[13:21] different countries as indentured servants on R-2 visa, okay. So they can work for 110

[13:23] indentured servants on R-2 visa, okay. So they can work for 110

[13:23] indentured servants on R-2 visa, okay. So they can work for 110 hours a week, seven days a week

[13:25] okay. So they can work for 110 hours a week, seven days a week

[13:25] okay. So they can work for 110 hours a week, seven days a week for $47 at most. And you're

[13:28] hours a week, seven days a week for $47 at most. And you're

[13:28] hours a week, seven days a week for $47 at most. And you're okay with that. But you know,

[13:30] for $47 at most. And you're okay with that. But you know,

[13:30] for $47 at most. And you're okay with that. But you know, you're not okay with helping

[13:31] okay with that. But you know, you're not okay with helping

[13:31] okay with that. But you know, you're not okay with helping Grandma or grandpa falling out

[13:33] you're not okay with helping Grandma or grandpa falling out

[13:33] you're not okay with helping Grandma or grandpa falling out of a bed. Are you serious? I'm

[13:35] Grandma or grandpa falling out of a bed. Are you serious? I'm

[13:35] Grandma or grandpa falling out of a bed. Are you serious? I'm so upset about that. And then

[13:37] of a bed. Are you serious? I'm so upset about that. And then

[13:37] of a bed. Are you serious? I'm so upset about that. And then I'm going to tag on to what

[13:39] so upset about that. And then I'm going to tag on to what

[13:39] so upset about that. And then I'm going to tag on to what Laura was saying. I am too.

[13:41] I'm going to tag on to what Laura was saying. I am too.

[13:41] I'm going to tag on to what Laura was saying. I am too. I've been saying it all at the

[13:42] Laura was saying. I am too. I've been saying it all at the

[13:42] Laura was saying. I am too. I've been saying it all at the police commission's for a long

[13:44] I've been saying it all at the police commission's for a long

[13:44] I've been saying it all at the police commission's for a long time. You're getting all this

[13:45] police commission's for a long time. You're getting all this

[13:45] police commission's for a long time. You're getting all this money from the laypeople, and

[13:46] time. You're getting all this money from the laypeople, and

[13:47] time. You're getting all this money from the laypeople, and you have no idea, because they

[13:48] money from the laypeople, and you have no idea, because they

[13:48] money from the laypeople, and you have no idea, because they don't have to show where their

[13:49] you have no idea, because they don't have to show where their

[13:49] you have no idea, because they don't have to show where their money comes from. So

[13:50] don't have to show where their money comes from. So

[13:50] don't have to show where their money comes from. So Scientology could be giving $1

[13:52] money comes from. So Scientology could be giving $1

[13:52] money comes from. So Scientology could be giving $1 million and then hint, hint,

[13:54] Scientology could be giving $1 million and then hint, hint,

[13:54] Scientology could be giving $1 million and then hint, hint, wink wink. Chief, we need some

[13:55] million and then hint, hint, wink wink. Chief, we need some

[13:55] million and then hint, hint, wink wink. Chief, we need some help, okay? And you can't say

[13:57] wink wink. Chief, we need some help, okay? And you can't say

[13:57] wink wink. Chief, we need some help, okay? And you can't say that's not true, because I know

[13:59] help, okay? And you can't say that's not true, because I know

[13:59] help, okay? And you can't say that's not true, because I know chief. Chief said, well, that

[14:00] that's not true, because I know chief. Chief said, well, that

[14:00] that's not true, because I know chief. Chief said, well, that wouldn't happen. I'm like, yes

[14:01] chief. Chief said, well, that wouldn't happen. I'm like, yes

[14:01] chief. Chief said, well, that wouldn't happen. I'm like, yes it would. You don't think that

[14:03] wouldn't happen. I'm like, yes it would. You don't think that

[14:03] wouldn't happen. I'm like, yes it would. You don't think that someone gives $1 million.

[14:04] it would. You don't think that someone gives $1 million.

[14:04] it would. You don't think that someone gives $1 million. They're not going to be saying,

[14:05] someone gives $1 million. They're not going to be saying,

[14:05] someone gives $1 million. They're not going to be saying, hey, you know what? I gave you

[14:07] They're not going to be saying, hey, you know what? I gave you

[14:07] They're not going to be saying, hey, you know what? I gave you $1 million. But we don't.

[14:08] hey, you know what? I gave you $1 million. But we don't.

[14:08] hey, you know what? I gave you $1 million. But we don't. There's no transparency. We

[14:09] $1 million. But we don't. There's no transparency. We

[14:09] $1 million. But we don't. There's no transparency. We don't get to see it. You still

[14:11] There's no transparency. We don't get to see it. You still

[14:11] There's no transparency. We don't get to see it. You still owe me an apology, Mr. Lee.

[14:13] don't get to see it. You still owe me an apology, Mr. Lee.

[14:13] don't get to see it. You still owe me an apology, Mr. Lee. Thank you. Last speaker is Ty

[14:14] owe me an apology, Mr. Lee. Thank you. Last speaker is Ty

[14:14] owe me an apology, Mr. Lee. Thank you. Last speaker is Ty Foreman. You have one minute

[14:15] Thank you. Last speaker is Ty Foreman. You have one minute

[14:15] Thank you. Last speaker is Ty Foreman. You have one minute for general comment. Hello and

[14:18] Foreman. You have one minute for general comment. Hello and

[14:19] Foreman. You have one minute for general comment. Hello and good evening. I believe the

[14:21] for general comment. Hello and good evening. I believe the

[14:21] for general comment. Hello and good evening. I believe the time is to you all. Thank you

[14:23] good evening. I believe the time is to you all. Thank you

[14:23] good evening. I believe the time is to you all. Thank you all for being here, attending

[14:26] time is to you all. Thank you all for being here, attending

[14:26] time is to you all. Thank you all for being here, attending to the public well is an

[14:28] all for being here, attending to the public well is an

[14:28] all for being here, attending to the public well is an incredible pursuit, and I'm

[14:29] to the public well is an incredible pursuit, and I'm

[14:29] to the public well is an incredible pursuit, and I'm honored to be on the city

[14:31] incredible pursuit, and I'm honored to be on the city

[14:31] incredible pursuit, and I'm honored to be on the city participating with that with

[14:32] honored to be on the city participating with that with

[14:32] honored to be on the city participating with that with you. All my comments are just a

[14:34] participating with that with you. All my comments are just a

[14:34] participating with that with you. All my comments are just a tertiary awareness motion, I

[14:40] you. All my comments are just a tertiary awareness motion, I

[14:40] you. All my comments are just a tertiary awareness motion, I suppose, for you all. So

[14:42] tertiary awareness motion, I suppose, for you all. So

[14:42] tertiary awareness motion, I suppose, for you all. So there's some things that, you

[14:44] suppose, for you all. So there's some things that, you

[14:44] suppose, for you all. So there's some things that, you know, I think need to be

[14:46] there's some things that, you know, I think need to be

[14:46] there's some things that, you know, I think need to be addressed and some things I am

[14:47] know, I think need to be addressed and some things I am

[14:48] know, I think need to be addressed and some things I am going to work with City Council

[14:50] addressed and some things I am going to work with City Council

[14:50] addressed and some things I am going to work with City Council to address that pertain to

[14:52] going to work with City Council to address that pertain to

[14:52] going to work with City Council to address that pertain to public safety, the first of

[14:54] to address that pertain to public safety, the first of

[14:54] to address that pertain to public safety, the first of which are these insects. There

[14:56] public safety, the first of which are these insects. There

[14:56] public safety, the first of which are these insects. There are insects that I'm finding

[14:58] which are these insects. There are insects that I'm finding

[14:58] which are these insects. There are insects that I'm finding throughout Los Angeles,

[14:59] are insects that I'm finding throughout Los Angeles,

[15:00] are insects that I'm finding throughout Los Angeles, Hollywood, from Central City to

[15:01] throughout Los Angeles, Hollywood, from Central City to

[15:01] throughout Los Angeles, Hollywood, from Central City to Santa Monica. The second has to

[15:03] Hollywood, from Central City to Santa Monica. The second has to

[15:03] Hollywood, from Central City to Santa Monica. The second has to do with air air quality. It's

[15:05] Santa Monica. The second has to do with air air quality. It's

[15:05] Santa Monica. The second has to do with air air quality. It's very dynamic. It's interesting.

[15:08] do with air air quality. It's very dynamic. It's interesting.

[15:08] do with air air quality. It's very dynamic. It's interesting. Something I think is do a

[15:10] very dynamic. It's interesting. Something I think is do a

[15:10] very dynamic. It's interesting. Something I think is do a report. And the third has to do

[15:11] Something I think is do a report. And the third has to do

[15:11] Something I think is do a report. And the third has to do with police and fire authority

[15:15] report. And the third has to do with police and fire authority

[15:15] report. And the third has to do with police and fire authority robotics. That's it. Thank you.

[15:17] with police and fire authority robotics. That's it. Thank you.

[15:18] with police and fire authority robotics. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker. Mr. chair,

[15:19] robotics. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker. Mr. chair,

[15:19] robotics. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker. Mr. chair, that concludes public comment.

[15:21] Thank you. Speaker. Mr. chair, that concludes public comment.

[15:21] Thank you. Speaker. Mr. chair, that concludes public comment. All right. We'll go ahead and

[15:22] that concludes public comment. All right. We'll go ahead and

[15:22] that concludes public comment. All right. We'll go ahead and close public comment.

[15:24] All right. We'll go ahead and close public comment.

[15:24] All right. We'll go ahead and close public comment. Colleagues, if there are no

[15:25] close public comment. Colleagues, if there are no

[15:25] close public comment. Colleagues, if there are no objections, I'd like to take

[15:27] Colleagues, if there are no objections, I'd like to take

[15:27] Colleagues, if there are no objections, I'd like to take recommend that items two

[15:28] objections, I'd like to take recommend that items two

[15:28] objections, I'd like to take recommend that items two through ten go for consent with

[15:30] recommend that items two through ten go for consent with

[15:31] recommend that items two through ten go for consent with the following recommendations.

[15:32] through ten go for consent with the following recommendations.

[15:32] through ten go for consent with the following recommendations. Item number two adopt the

[15:34] the following recommendations. Item number two adopt the

[15:35] the following recommendations. Item number two adopt the motion. Item number three adopt

[15:36] Item number two adopt the motion. Item number three adopt

[15:36] Item number two adopt the motion. Item number three adopt the motion with the amendment.

[15:39] motion. Item number three adopt the motion with the amendment.

[15:39] motion. Item number three adopt the motion with the amendment. Madam clerk, do you have a copy

[15:40] the motion with the amendment. Madam clerk, do you have a copy

[15:40] the motion with the amendment. Madam clerk, do you have a copy of Councilmember Martinez's

[15:43] Madam clerk, do you have a copy of Councilmember Martinez's

[15:43] Madam clerk, do you have a copy of Councilmember Martinez's amendment? Amendment four,

[15:45] of Councilmember Martinez's amendment? Amendment four,

[15:45] of Councilmember Martinez's amendment? Amendment four, report back item four through

[15:46] amendment? Amendment four, report back item four through

[15:46] amendment? Amendment four, report back item four through seven to adopt the Motion's

[15:48] report back item four through seven to adopt the Motion's

[15:48] report back item four through seven to adopt the Motion's items eight through ten to

[15:49] seven to adopt the Motion's items eight through ten to

[15:50] seven to adopt the Motion's items eight through ten to approve the acceptance of the

[15:52] items eight through ten to approve the acceptance of the

[15:52] items eight through ten to approve the acceptance of the donations, can you please call

[15:53] approve the acceptance of the donations, can you please call

[15:53] approve the acceptance of the donations, can you please call a vote on those items? Council

[15:56] donations, can you please call a vote on those items? Council

[15:56] donations, can you please call a vote on those items? Council member Lee aye, Councilmember

[15:59] a vote on those items? Council member Lee aye, Councilmember

[15:59] a vote on those items? Council member Lee aye, Councilmember price absent. Council member

[16:01] member Lee aye, Councilmember price absent. Council member

[16:01] member Lee aye, Councilmember price absent. Council member Mcosker. Yes. Councilmember.

[16:03] price absent. Council member Mcosker. Yes. Councilmember.

[16:03] price absent. Council member Mcosker. Yes. Councilmember. Martinez. Yes. Councilmember.

[16:05] Mcosker. Yes. Councilmember. Martinez. Yes. Councilmember.

[16:05] Mcosker. Yes. Councilmember. Martinez. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. Four ayes. These

[16:07] Martinez. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. Four ayes. These

[16:07] Martinez. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. Four ayes. These items are approved as

[16:08] Park. Yes. Four ayes. These items are approved as

[16:08] Park. Yes. Four ayes. These items are approved as instructed. All right. Madam

[16:09] items are approved as instructed. All right. Madam

[16:10] items are approved as instructed. All right. Madam Clerk, can you please call item?

[16:11] instructed. All right. Madam Clerk, can you please call item?

[16:11] instructed. All right. Madam Clerk, can you please call item? I believe that brings us to

[16:12] Clerk, can you please call item? I believe that brings us to

[16:12] Clerk, can you please call item? I believe that brings us to item number 11 into the record.

[16:14] I believe that brings us to item number 11 into the record.

[16:14] I believe that brings us to item number 11 into the record. And if LAPD wouldn't mind

[16:16] item number 11 into the record. And if LAPD wouldn't mind

[16:17] item number 11 into the record. And if LAPD wouldn't mind coming to the table to answer

[16:18] And if LAPD wouldn't mind coming to the table to answer

[16:18] And if LAPD wouldn't mind coming to the table to answer questions regarding this, item

[16:21] coming to the table to answer questions regarding this, item

[16:21] coming to the table to answer questions regarding this, item 11 is consideration of a Board

[16:23] questions regarding this, item 11 is consideration of a Board

[16:23] questions regarding this, item 11 is consideration of a Board of Police commissioners report

[16:24] 11 is consideration of a Board of Police commissioners report

[16:24] 11 is consideration of a Board of Police commissioners report relative to the annual

[16:25] of Police commissioners report relative to the annual

[16:26] of Police commissioners report relative to the annual quadruped Unmanned Ground

[16:27] relative to the annual quadruped Unmanned Ground

[16:27] relative to the annual quadruped Unmanned Ground Vehicle Inspection report for

[16:29] quadruped Unmanned Ground Vehicle Inspection report for

[16:29] quadruped Unmanned Ground Vehicle Inspection report for fiscal year 20 2425. All right.

[16:33] Vehicle Inspection report for fiscal year 20 2425. All right.

[16:33] Vehicle Inspection report for fiscal year 20 2425. All right. Thank you so much for being

[16:34] fiscal year 20 2425. All right. Thank you so much for being

[16:34] fiscal year 20 2425. All right. Thank you so much for being here. Councilmember Martinez, I

[16:35] Thank you so much for being here. Councilmember Martinez, I

[16:35] Thank you so much for being here. Councilmember Martinez, I believe you had some questions

[16:37] here. Councilmember Martinez, I believe you had some questions

[16:37] here. Councilmember Martinez, I believe you had some questions regarding. Yes. Can you just

[16:45] believe you had some questions regarding. Yes. Can you just

[16:45] believe you had some questions regarding. Yes. Can you just maybe give us a brief, brief,

[16:47] regarding. Yes. Can you just maybe give us a brief, brief,

[16:47] regarding. Yes. Can you just maybe give us a brief, brief, quick introduction? This one is

[16:51] maybe give us a brief, brief, quick introduction? This one is

[16:51] maybe give us a brief, brief, quick introduction? This one is can you hear me? Okay. Yeah.

[16:53] quick introduction? This one is can you hear me? Okay. Yeah.

[16:53] quick introduction? This one is can you hear me? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Good afternoon. During

[16:55] can you hear me? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Good afternoon. During

[16:55] can you hear me? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Good afternoon. During this inspection period, which

[16:56] Okay. Good afternoon. During this inspection period, which

[16:57] Okay. Good afternoon. During this inspection period, which covered from July 4th, 2024

[16:59] this inspection period, which covered from July 4th, 2024

[16:59] this inspection period, which covered from July 4th, 2024 through June 30th, 2025, we had

[17:03] covered from July 4th, 2024 through June 30th, 2025, we had

[17:03] covered from July 4th, 2024 through June 30th, 2025, we had four incidents where the

[17:05] through June 30th, 2025, we had four incidents where the

[17:05] through June 30th, 2025, we had four incidents where the quadruped unmanned ground

[17:06] four incidents where the quadruped unmanned ground

[17:06] four incidents where the quadruped unmanned ground vehicle was deployed during our

[17:09] quadruped unmanned ground vehicle was deployed during our

[17:09] quadruped unmanned ground vehicle was deployed during our encounters with suspects. Each

[17:11] vehicle was deployed during our encounters with suspects. Each

[17:11] vehicle was deployed during our encounters with suspects. Each of these incidents met the

[17:13] encounters with suspects. Each of these incidents met the

[17:13] encounters with suspects. Each of these incidents met the criteria for our deployment,

[17:14] of these incidents met the criteria for our deployment,

[17:15] of these incidents met the criteria for our deployment, which you're very aware of.

[17:17] criteria for our deployment, which you're very aware of.

[17:17] criteria for our deployment, which you're very aware of. Dated May 30th, 2023, each of

[17:20] which you're very aware of. Dated May 30th, 2023, each of

[17:20] which you're very aware of. Dated May 30th, 2023, each of these deployments presented

[17:21] Dated May 30th, 2023, each of these deployments presented

[17:21] Dated May 30th, 2023, each of these deployments presented unique challenges and

[17:22] these deployments presented unique challenges and

[17:22] these deployments presented unique challenges and environments that tested the

[17:24] unique challenges and environments that tested the

[17:24] unique challenges and environments that tested the capabilities of our technology.

[17:26] environments that tested the capabilities of our technology.

[17:26] environments that tested the capabilities of our technology. These incidents presented

[17:27] capabilities of our technology. These incidents presented

[17:28] capabilities of our technology. These incidents presented obstacles and barriers that our

[17:29] These incidents presented obstacles and barriers that our

[17:29] These incidents presented obstacles and barriers that our traditional robotics would not

[17:31] obstacles and barriers that our traditional robotics would not

[17:31] obstacles and barriers that our traditional robotics would not be able to overcome to include

[17:33] traditional robotics would not be able to overcome to include

[17:33] traditional robotics would not be able to overcome to include closed doors, cluttered living

[17:35] be able to overcome to include closed doors, cluttered living

[17:35] be able to overcome to include closed doors, cluttered living spaces, and terrain that

[17:36] closed doors, cluttered living spaces, and terrain that

[17:36] closed doors, cluttered living spaces, and terrain that limited utilizing other

[17:38] spaces, and terrain that limited utilizing other

[17:38] spaces, and terrain that limited utilizing other robotics or drones in those

[17:40] limited utilizing other robotics or drones in those

[17:40] limited utilizing other robotics or drones in those areas. In one situation, the

[17:43] robotics or drones in those areas. In one situation, the

[17:43] robotics or drones in those areas. In one situation, the served as a pathfinder to clear

[17:44] areas. In one situation, the served as a pathfinder to clear

[17:44] areas. In one situation, the served as a pathfinder to clear an area for our personnel to

[17:46] served as a pathfinder to clear an area for our personnel to

[17:46] served as a pathfinder to clear an area for our personnel to enter the location. Overall,

[17:48] an area for our personnel to enter the location. Overall,

[17:48] an area for our personnel to enter the location. Overall, the deployments of the GV

[17:50] enter the location. Overall, the deployments of the GV

[17:50] enter the location. Overall, the deployments of the GV allowed our operators

[17:52] the deployments of the GV allowed our operators

[17:52] the deployments of the GV allowed our operators additional tactical options and

[17:53] allowed our operators additional tactical options and

[17:53] allowed our operators additional tactical options and better situational awareness of

[17:54] additional tactical options and better situational awareness of

[17:55] additional tactical options and better situational awareness of the suspect's actions in real

[17:57] better situational awareness of the suspect's actions in real

[17:57] better situational awareness of the suspect's actions in real time. And as stated, we were

[18:00] the suspect's actions in real time. And as stated, we were

[18:00] the suspect's actions in real time. And as stated, we were met back in 2023. The purpose

[18:02] time. And as stated, we were met back in 2023. The purpose

[18:02] time. And as stated, we were met back in 2023. The purpose of acquiring this technology

[18:04] met back in 2023. The purpose of acquiring this technology

[18:05] met back in 2023. The purpose of acquiring this technology was to better protect our

[18:06] of acquiring this technology was to better protect our

[18:06] of acquiring this technology was to better protect our officers in the community by

[18:07] was to better protect our officers in the community by

[18:07] was to better protect our officers in the community by de-escalating dangerous

[18:09] officers in the community by de-escalating dangerous

[18:09] officers in the community by de-escalating dangerous situation situations in the

[18:11] de-escalating dangerous situation situations in the

[18:11] de-escalating dangerous situation situations in the safest manner possible and

[18:12] situation situations in the safest manner possible and

[18:12] situation situations in the safest manner possible and providing our tactical

[18:13] safest manner possible and providing our tactical

[18:13] safest manner possible and providing our tactical operators more options to

[18:15] providing our tactical operators more options to

[18:15] providing our tactical operators more options to improve the likelihood that

[18:16] operators more options to improve the likelihood that

[18:16] operators more options to improve the likelihood that these incidents and peacefully,

[18:19] improve the likelihood that these incidents and peacefully,

[18:19] improve the likelihood that these incidents and peacefully, during these last few years,

[18:21] these incidents and peacefully, during these last few years,

[18:21] these incidents and peacefully, during these last few years, we've continued to work with

[18:22] during these last few years, we've continued to work with

[18:22] during these last few years, we've continued to work with the manufacturer, Boston

[18:24] we've continued to work with the manufacturer, Boston

[18:24] we've continued to work with the manufacturer, Boston Dynamics, and other law

[18:25] the manufacturer, Boston Dynamics, and other law

[18:25] the manufacturer, Boston Dynamics, and other law enforcement agencies around the

[18:26] Dynamics, and other law enforcement agencies around the

[18:26] Dynamics, and other law enforcement agencies around the country to review their

[18:28] enforcement agencies around the country to review their

[18:28] enforcement agencies around the country to review their deployments, as well to assess

[18:29] country to review their deployments, as well to assess

[18:29] country to review their deployments, as well to assess best practices across the

[18:31] deployments, as well to assess best practices across the

[18:31] deployments, as well to assess best practices across the country to allow us a better

[18:34] best practices across the country to allow us a better

[18:34] best practices across the country to allow us a better use of this technology. And I'm

[18:36] country to allow us a better use of this technology. And I'm

[18:36] country to allow us a better use of this technology. And I'm prepared to answer any

[18:37] use of this technology. And I'm prepared to answer any

[18:37] use of this technology. And I'm prepared to answer any questions you have regarding

[18:38] prepared to answer any questions you have regarding

[18:38] prepared to answer any questions you have regarding this report. Thank you. Chief,

[18:40] questions you have regarding this report. Thank you. Chief,

[18:41] questions you have regarding this report. Thank you. Chief, before we get to Councilmember

[18:42] this report. Thank you. Chief, before we get to Councilmember

[18:42] this report. Thank you. Chief, before we get to Councilmember Martinez, chief, can you just

[18:44] before we get to Councilmember Martinez, chief, can you just

[18:44] before we get to Councilmember Martinez, chief, can you just identify yourself? Yeah. I'm

[18:46] Martinez, chief, can you just identify yourself? Yeah. I'm

[18:46] Martinez, chief, can you just identify yourself? Yeah. I'm sorry. Los Angeles Police

[18:47] identify yourself? Yeah. I'm sorry. Los Angeles Police

[18:47] identify yourself? Yeah. I'm sorry. Los Angeles Police Department Deputy Chief David

[18:49] sorry. Los Angeles Police Department Deputy Chief David

[18:49] sorry. Los Angeles Police Department Deputy Chief David Kowalski. Thank you. Thank you.

[18:51] Department Deputy Chief David Kowalski. Thank you. Thank you.

[18:51] Department Deputy Chief David Kowalski. Thank you. Thank you. I see that all of them are are

[18:53] Kowalski. Thank you. Thank you. I see that all of them are are

[18:54] Kowalski. Thank you. Thank you. I see that all of them are are some form of the person being

[18:57] I see that all of them are are some form of the person being

[18:57] I see that all of them are are some form of the person being barricaded. Sounds like that's

[19:00] some form of the person being barricaded. Sounds like that's

[19:00] some form of the person being barricaded. Sounds like that's going to be the highest use at

[19:01] barricaded. Sounds like that's going to be the highest use at

[19:01] barricaded. Sounds like that's going to be the highest use at this point. It's just seems

[19:04] going to be the highest use at this point. It's just seems

[19:04] going to be the highest use at this point. It's just seems like difficult situations where

[19:05] this point. It's just seems like difficult situations where

[19:05] this point. It's just seems like difficult situations where we don't want to send our

[19:07] like difficult situations where we don't want to send our

[19:07] like difficult situations where we don't want to send our police officers in. Can you

[19:09] we don't want to send our police officers in. Can you

[19:09] we don't want to send our police officers in. Can you tell me what that what the

[19:10] police officers in. Can you tell me what that what the

[19:10] police officers in. Can you tell me what that what the outcome of each of these were?

[19:12] tell me what that what the outcome of each of these were?

[19:12] tell me what that what the outcome of each of these were? Yes. I can go over each

[19:15] outcome of each of these were? Yes. I can go over each

[19:15] outcome of each of these were? Yes. I can go over each incidents if you want. Well,

[19:19] Yes. I can go over each incidents if you want. Well,

[19:19] Yes. I can go over each incidents if you want. Well, what was what was good on each

[19:21] incidents if you want. Well, what was what was good on each

[19:21] incidents if you want. Well, what was what was good on each of these four deployments? They

[19:23] what was what was good on each of these four deployments? They

[19:23] what was what was good on each of these four deployments? They were all a little bit different.

[19:25] of these four deployments? They were all a little bit different.

[19:25] of these four deployments? They were all a little bit different. In one scenario, patrol

[19:28] were all a little bit different. In one scenario, patrol

[19:28] were all a little bit different. In one scenario, patrol officers had been involved in

[19:29] In one scenario, patrol officers had been involved in

[19:29] In one scenario, patrol officers had been involved in an officer involved shooting

[19:31] officers had been involved in an officer involved shooting

[19:31] officers had been involved in an officer involved shooting prior. So they were dealing

[19:32] an officer involved shooting prior. So they were dealing

[19:32] an officer involved shooting prior. So they were dealing with a a violent suspect. And

[19:36] prior. So they were dealing with a a violent suspect. And

[19:36] prior. So they were dealing with a a violent suspect. And luckily, because of the way the

[19:38] with a a violent suspect. And luckily, because of the way the

[19:39] with a a violent suspect. And luckily, because of the way the the setting was like, generally

[19:40] luckily, because of the way the the setting was like, generally

[19:40] luckily, because of the way the the setting was like, generally when it comes to any type of

[19:42] the setting was like, generally when it comes to any type of

[19:42] the setting was like, generally when it comes to any type of tactical deployment, especially

[19:44] when it comes to any type of tactical deployment, especially

[19:44] when it comes to any type of tactical deployment, especially involves Swat, the environment

[19:46] tactical deployment, especially involves Swat, the environment

[19:46] tactical deployment, especially involves Swat, the environment dictates what our tactics would

[19:48] involves Swat, the environment dictates what our tactics would

[19:48] involves Swat, the environment dictates what our tactics would be and what type of technology

[19:50] dictates what our tactics would be and what type of technology

[19:50] dictates what our tactics would be and what type of technology we would use. So in in this

[19:53] be and what type of technology we would use. So in in this

[19:53] be and what type of technology we would use. So in in this first situation that we had, we

[19:55] we would use. So in in this first situation that we had, we

[19:55] we would use. So in in this first situation that we had, we had a variety of overgrown

[19:58] first situation that we had, we had a variety of overgrown

[19:58] first situation that we had, we had a variety of overgrown vegetation, various obstacles

[19:59] had a variety of overgrown vegetation, various obstacles

[19:59] had a variety of overgrown vegetation, various obstacles in the yard that prevented us

[20:02] vegetation, various obstacles in the yard that prevented us

[20:02] vegetation, various obstacles in the yard that prevented us to use some of the tracked

[20:04] in the yard that prevented us to use some of the tracked

[20:04] in the yard that prevented us to use some of the tracked robots that we use on general

[20:07] to use some of the tracked robots that we use on general

[20:07] to use some of the tracked robots that we use on general deployments. We were able to

[20:09] robots that we use on general deployments. We were able to

[20:09] robots that we use on general deployments. We were able to utilize the the robot that day,

[20:12] deployments. We were able to utilize the the robot that day,

[20:12] deployments. We were able to utilize the the robot that day, and even to the point where we

[20:14] utilize the the robot that day, and even to the point where we

[20:14] utilize the the robot that day, and even to the point where we opened the door, we were able

[20:15] and even to the point where we opened the door, we were able

[20:15] and even to the point where we opened the door, we were able to get in a room. And, you know,

[20:18] opened the door, we were able to get in a room. And, you know,

[20:18] opened the door, we were able to get in a room. And, you know, that allowed us to encounter

[20:20] to get in a room. And, you know, that allowed us to encounter

[20:20] to get in a room. And, you know, that allowed us to encounter the suspect safely and then

[20:22] that allowed us to encounter the suspect safely and then

[20:22] that allowed us to encounter the suspect safely and then take him into custody in the

[20:26] the suspect safely and then take him into custody in the

[20:26] the suspect safely and then take him into custody in the the in that incident, the

[20:28] take him into custody in the the in that incident, the

[20:28] take him into custody in the the in that incident, the second one, this one occurred

[20:31] the in that incident, the second one, this one occurred

[20:32] the in that incident, the second one, this one occurred involving Hollywood area patrol

[20:34] second one, this one occurred involving Hollywood area patrol

[20:34] second one, this one occurred involving Hollywood area patrol officers, and they were dealing

[20:36] involving Hollywood area patrol officers, and they were dealing

[20:36] involving Hollywood area patrol officers, and they were dealing with a person who was in

[20:37] officers, and they were dealing with a person who was in

[20:37] officers, and they were dealing with a person who was in possession of an ax. So this

[20:38] with a person who was in possession of an ax. So this

[20:39] with a person who was in possession of an ax. So this was a multi level apartment

[20:41] possession of an ax. So this was a multi level apartment

[20:41] possession of an ax. So this was a multi level apartment building and Swat was called

[20:43] was a multi level apartment building and Swat was called

[20:43] was a multi level apartment building and Swat was called into this. So as the as we were

[20:48] building and Swat was called into this. So as the as we were

[20:48] building and Swat was called into this. So as the as we were encountering the situation

[20:49] into this. So as the as we were encountering the situation

[20:49] into this. So as the as we were encountering the situation similar to the first situation,

[20:50] encountering the situation similar to the first situation,

[20:50] encountering the situation similar to the first situation, we had an excessive amount of

[20:52] similar to the first situation, we had an excessive amount of

[20:52] similar to the first situation, we had an excessive amount of debris. And the suspect, he

[20:54] we had an excessive amount of debris. And the suspect, he

[20:54] we had an excessive amount of debris. And the suspect, he refused to to exit the building.

[20:57] debris. And the suspect, he refused to to exit the building.

[20:57] debris. And the suspect, he refused to to exit the building. So where we we deployed the

[21:00] refused to to exit the building. So where we we deployed the

[21:00] refused to to exit the building. So where we we deployed the robot, the we were able to use

[21:03] So where we we deployed the robot, the we were able to use

[21:03] So where we we deployed the robot, the we were able to use the sort of the thermal camera

[21:05] robot, the we were able to use the sort of the thermal camera

[21:05] robot, the we were able to use the sort of the thermal camera on the robot and that indicated

[21:08] the sort of the thermal camera on the robot and that indicated

[21:08] the sort of the thermal camera on the robot and that indicated where he was because he was

[21:10] on the robot and that indicated where he was because he was

[21:10] on the robot and that indicated where he was because he was actually hiding under a large

[21:12] where he was because he was actually hiding under a large

[21:13] where he was because he was actually hiding under a large amount of debris in the in the

[21:15] actually hiding under a large amount of debris in the in the

[21:15] actually hiding under a large amount of debris in the in the room. So we we called him out

[21:18] amount of debris in the in the room. So we we called him out

[21:18] amount of debris in the in the room. So we we called him out and we took him into custody

[21:19] room. So we we called him out and we took him into custody

[21:19] room. So we we called him out and we took him into custody then. So we're using different

[21:21] and we took him into custody then. So we're using different

[21:22] and we took him into custody then. So we're using different parts of the technology of this

[21:24] then. So we're using different parts of the technology of this

[21:24] then. So we're using different parts of the technology of this robot to safely take these

[21:25] parts of the technology of this robot to safely take these

[21:25] parts of the technology of this robot to safely take these people into custody. So in both

[21:27] robot to safely take these people into custody. So in both

[21:27] robot to safely take these people into custody. So in both incidents, no officer involved

[21:28] people into custody. So in both incidents, no officer involved

[21:28] people into custody. So in both incidents, no officer involved shooting, which was which was

[21:30] incidents, no officer involved shooting, which was which was

[21:30] incidents, no officer involved shooting, which was which was good. And the person we took

[21:31] shooting, which was which was good. And the person we took

[21:31] shooting, which was which was good. And the person we took into custody was safe. Third

[21:34] good. And the person we took into custody was safe. Third

[21:34] good. And the person we took into custody was safe. Third one occurred down in the the

[21:36] into custody was safe. Third one occurred down in the the

[21:36] into custody was safe. Third one occurred down in the the harbor area of the city. And

[21:39] one occurred down in the the harbor area of the city. And

[21:39] one occurred down in the the harbor area of the city. And initially patrol officers had

[21:41] harbor area of the city. And initially patrol officers had

[21:41] harbor area of the city. And initially patrol officers had responded to a radio call of a

[21:43] initially patrol officers had responded to a radio call of a

[21:43] initially patrol officers had responded to a radio call of a suspect causing a disturbance.

[21:45] responded to a radio call of a suspect causing a disturbance.

[21:45] responded to a radio call of a suspect causing a disturbance. He was he was armed with a

[21:46] suspect causing a disturbance. He was he was armed with a

[21:46] suspect causing a disturbance. He was he was armed with a firearm at that point. And so

[21:48] He was he was armed with a firearm at that point. And so

[21:48] He was he was armed with a firearm at that point. And so he was in a shed area. And so

[21:51] firearm at that point. And so he was in a shed area. And so

[21:51] firearm at that point. And so he was in a shed area. And so in this in this incident, there

[21:56] he was in a shed area. And so in this in this incident, there

[21:56] he was in a shed area. And so in this in this incident, there were several obstacles that

[21:58] in this in this incident, there were several obstacles that

[21:58] in this in this incident, there were several obstacles that would have hindered the use of

[21:59] were several obstacles that would have hindered the use of

[22:00] were several obstacles that would have hindered the use of traditional tracked robots to

[22:01] would have hindered the use of traditional tracked robots to

[22:01] would have hindered the use of traditional tracked robots to get. I mean, if you looked at

[22:02] traditional tracked robots to get. I mean, if you looked at

[22:02] traditional tracked robots to get. I mean, if you looked at this yard, it was it was

[22:05] get. I mean, if you looked at this yard, it was it was

[22:05] get. I mean, if you looked at this yard, it was it was impenetrable almost by feet. So

[22:07] this yard, it was it was impenetrable almost by feet. So

[22:07] this yard, it was it was impenetrable almost by feet. So we we did use the, the

[22:10] impenetrable almost by feet. So we we did use the, the

[22:10] impenetrable almost by feet. So we we did use the, the unfortunately in this one, even

[22:12] we we did use the, the unfortunately in this one, even

[22:12] we we did use the, the unfortunately in this one, even the environment prevented us

[22:15] unfortunately in this one, even the environment prevented us

[22:15] unfortunately in this one, even the environment prevented us from prevented that robot to

[22:19] the environment prevented us from prevented that robot to

[22:20] the environment prevented us from prevented that robot to maneuver through it. It

[22:21] from prevented that robot to maneuver through it. It

[22:21] from prevented that robot to maneuver through it. It actually fell into a ditch. We

[22:23] maneuver through it. It actually fell into a ditch. We

[22:23] maneuver through it. It actually fell into a ditch. We did though, use the camera. I

[22:25] actually fell into a ditch. We did though, use the camera. I

[22:25] actually fell into a ditch. We did though, use the camera. I mean, it was on its side for

[22:27] did though, use the camera. I mean, it was on its side for

[22:27] did though, use the camera. I mean, it was on its side for spot. Yeah, he poor spot. And

[22:30] mean, it was on its side for spot. Yeah, he poor spot. And

[22:30] mean, it was on its side for spot. Yeah, he poor spot. And so we were able to use the

[22:32] spot. Yeah, he poor spot. And so we were able to use the

[22:32] spot. Yeah, he poor spot. And so we were able to use the camera in that deployment even

[22:33] so we were able to use the camera in that deployment even

[22:33] so we were able to use the camera in that deployment even to give us some situational

[22:35] camera in that deployment even to give us some situational

[22:35] camera in that deployment even to give us some situational awareness, because this was a

[22:36] to give us some situational awareness, because this was a

[22:36] to give us some situational awareness, because this was a very violent suspect and that

[22:38] awareness, because this was a very violent suspect and that

[22:38] awareness, because this was a very violent suspect and that was actually involved in a, in

[22:40] very violent suspect and that was actually involved in a, in

[22:40] very violent suspect and that was actually involved in a, in an officer involved shooting.

[22:41] was actually involved in a, in an officer involved shooting.

[22:41] was actually involved in a, in an officer involved shooting. But we we did we did utilize

[22:44] an officer involved shooting. But we we did we did utilize

[22:44] an officer involved shooting. But we we did we did utilize the best we could in that

[22:46] But we we did we did utilize the best we could in that

[22:46] But we we did we did utilize the best we could in that situation. So and then finally,

[22:50] the best we could in that situation. So and then finally,

[22:50] the best we could in that situation. So and then finally, I'm sorry, the last one was in

[22:55] situation. So and then finally, I'm sorry, the last one was in

[22:55] situation. So and then finally, I'm sorry, the last one was in the in the 77th area of the

[22:56] I'm sorry, the last one was in the in the 77th area of the

[22:57] I'm sorry, the last one was in the in the 77th area of the city, there was a radio call

[22:58] the in the 77th area of the city, there was a radio call

[22:58] the in the 77th area of the city, there was a radio call where the suspect was actually

[23:00] city, there was a radio call where the suspect was actually

[23:00] city, there was a radio call where the suspect was actually pointing a rifle at numerous

[23:02] where the suspect was actually pointing a rifle at numerous

[23:02] where the suspect was actually pointing a rifle at numerous people. This was in the 6600

[23:04] pointing a rifle at numerous people. This was in the 6600

[23:04] pointing a rifle at numerous people. This was in the 6600 block of South Figueroa. And

[23:06] people. This was in the 6600 block of South Figueroa. And

[23:06] people. This was in the 6600 block of South Figueroa. And then the suspect had barricaded

[23:08] block of South Figueroa. And then the suspect had barricaded

[23:08] block of South Figueroa. And then the suspect had barricaded himself in a second story

[23:10] then the suspect had barricaded himself in a second story

[23:10] then the suspect had barricaded himself in a second story apartment building. And when

[23:13] himself in a second story apartment building. And when

[23:13] himself in a second story apartment building. And when Swat arrived, we did see him

[23:17] apartment building. And when Swat arrived, we did see him

[23:17] apartment building. And when Swat arrived, we did see him holding, holding a weapon. And

[23:20] Swat arrived, we did see him holding, holding a weapon. And

[23:20] Swat arrived, we did see him holding, holding a weapon. And in that case there was an

[23:21] holding, holding a weapon. And in that case there was an

[23:21] holding, holding a weapon. And in that case there was an officer involved shooting from

[23:23] in that case there was an officer involved shooting from

[23:23] in that case there was an officer involved shooting from that. But the the robot was

[23:27] officer involved shooting from that. But the the robot was

[23:27] officer involved shooting from that. But the the robot was able to kind of maneuver

[23:29] that. But the the robot was able to kind of maneuver

[23:29] that. But the the robot was able to kind of maneuver through the area, and it

[23:33] able to kind of maneuver through the area, and it

[23:33] able to kind of maneuver through the area, and it allowed us to. Travel through

[23:37] through the area, and it allowed us to. Travel through

[23:37] through the area, and it allowed us to. Travel through the the apartment floors and

[23:39] allowed us to. Travel through the the apartment floors and

[23:39] allowed us to. Travel through the the apartment floors and then kind of move some of the

[23:41] the the apartment floors and then kind of move some of the

[23:41] the the apartment floors and then kind of move some of the obstructions that were there.

[23:42] then kind of move some of the obstructions that were there.

[23:42] then kind of move some of the obstructions that were there. And then it helped us really

[23:44] obstructions that were there. And then it helped us really

[23:44] obstructions that were there. And then it helped us really clear a pathway for the

[23:45] And then it helped us really clear a pathway for the

[23:45] And then it helped us really clear a pathway for the officers to eventually safely

[23:47] clear a pathway for the officers to eventually safely

[23:47] clear a pathway for the officers to eventually safely move into the building and then

[23:48] officers to eventually safely move into the building and then

[23:48] officers to eventually safely move into the building and then take him into custody. So

[23:50] move into the building and then take him into custody. So

[23:50] move into the building and then take him into custody. So there's a variety of of

[23:52] take him into custody. So there's a variety of of

[23:52] take him into custody. So there's a variety of of deployments here. But really,

[23:53] there's a variety of of deployments here. But really,

[23:53] there's a variety of of deployments here. But really, for that whole year, I mean,

[23:55] deployments here. But really, for that whole year, I mean,

[23:55] deployments here. But really, for that whole year, I mean, four incidents or incidents

[23:57] for that whole year, I mean, four incidents or incidents

[23:57] for that whole year, I mean, four incidents or incidents where we've used it, where Swat

[23:59] four incidents or incidents where we've used it, where Swat

[23:59] four incidents or incidents where we've used it, where Swat normally deploys during a year,

[24:01] where we've used it, where Swat normally deploys during a year,

[24:01] where we've used it, where Swat normally deploys during a year, probably 125 to 130 deployments

[24:04] normally deploys during a year, probably 125 to 130 deployments

[24:04] normally deploys during a year, probably 125 to 130 deployments a year. So we're using it very

[24:07] probably 125 to 130 deployments a year. So we're using it very

[24:07] probably 125 to 130 deployments a year. So we're using it very judiciously in compliance with

[24:09] a year. So we're using it very judiciously in compliance with

[24:09] a year. So we're using it very judiciously in compliance with the the policy. But, you know,

[24:12] judiciously in compliance with the the policy. But, you know,

[24:12] judiciously in compliance with the the policy. But, you know, we're trying to look at

[24:13] the the policy. But, you know, we're trying to look at

[24:14] the the policy. But, you know, we're trying to look at different ways of of utilizing

[24:17] we're trying to look at different ways of of utilizing

[24:17] we're trying to look at different ways of of utilizing it in the best way possible. So

[24:18] different ways of of utilizing it in the best way possible. So

[24:18] different ways of of utilizing it in the best way possible. So I hope that answers your

[24:19] it in the best way possible. So I hope that answers your

[24:20] it in the best way possible. So I hope that answers your question, sir. No, thank you

[24:21] I hope that answers your question, sir. No, thank you

[24:21] I hope that answers your question, sir. No, thank you for for the thorough report. I

[24:22] question, sir. No, thank you for for the thorough report. I

[24:22] question, sir. No, thank you for for the thorough report. I mean, in two instances, the the

[24:26] for for the thorough report. I mean, in two instances, the the

[24:26] for for the thorough report. I mean, in two instances, the the technology ended in, you know,

[24:28] mean, in two instances, the the technology ended in, you know,

[24:28] mean, in two instances, the the technology ended in, you know, an ideal situation, being able

[24:30] technology ended in, you know, an ideal situation, being able

[24:30] technology ended in, you know, an ideal situation, being able to open the door and the

[24:32] an ideal situation, being able to open the door and the

[24:32] an ideal situation, being able to open the door and the thermal camera. And in the

[24:33] to open the door and the thermal camera. And in the

[24:34] to open the door and the thermal camera. And in the other two, it sounds like it

[24:35] thermal camera. And in the other two, it sounds like it

[24:35] thermal camera. And in the other two, it sounds like it gave you an ability to having

[24:37] other two, it sounds like it gave you an ability to having

[24:37] other two, it sounds like it gave you an ability to having more information and awareness,

[24:38] gave you an ability to having more information and awareness,

[24:38] gave you an ability to having more information and awareness, I think was helpful, even

[24:40] more information and awareness, I think was helpful, even

[24:40] more information and awareness, I think was helpful, even though, you know, they were

[24:42] I think was helpful, even though, you know, they were

[24:42] I think was helpful, even though, you know, they were didn't end in ideal situation

[24:44] though, you know, they were didn't end in ideal situation

[24:45] though, you know, they were didn't end in ideal situation with officer involved shooting.

[24:46] didn't end in ideal situation with officer involved shooting.

[24:46] didn't end in ideal situation with officer involved shooting. But yeah, I mean, look, this

[24:48] with officer involved shooting. But yeah, I mean, look, this

[24:48] with officer involved shooting. But yeah, I mean, look, this was an item that came up, I

[24:50] But yeah, I mean, look, this was an item that came up, I

[24:50] But yeah, I mean, look, this was an item that came up, I think my first year. And, you

[24:51] was an item that came up, I think my first year. And, you

[24:51] was an item that came up, I think my first year. And, you know, there was a lot of

[24:53] think my first year. And, you know, there was a lot of

[24:53] think my first year. And, you know, there was a lot of stories about it. And, you know,

[24:55] know, there was a lot of stories about it. And, you know,

[24:55] know, there was a lot of stories about it. And, you know, little dystopian and and you

[24:57] stories about it. And, you know, little dystopian and and you

[24:58] stories about it. And, you know, little dystopian and and you know, I want to and the report,

[24:59] little dystopian and and you know, I want to and the report,

[24:59] little dystopian and and you know, I want to and the report, the reports are sort of helpful

[25:01] know, I want to and the report, the reports are sort of helpful

[25:01] know, I want to and the report, the reports are sort of helpful for me and understanding like,

[25:03] the reports are sort of helpful for me and understanding like,

[25:03] the reports are sort of helpful for me and understanding like, you know, where they were

[25:04] for me and understanding like, you know, where they were

[25:04] for me and understanding like, you know, where they were helpful. It sounds like all

[25:06] you know, where they were helpful. It sounds like all

[25:06] you know, where they were helpful. It sounds like all four situations, the technology

[25:08] helpful. It sounds like all four situations, the technology

[25:08] helpful. It sounds like all four situations, the technology that we currently have would

[25:10] four situations, the technology that we currently have would

[25:10] four situations, the technology that we currently have would not. Yes, not have been helpful,

[25:12] that we currently have would not. Yes, not have been helpful,

[25:12] that we currently have would not. Yes, not have been helpful, even though, again, not an

[25:13] not. Yes, not have been helpful, even though, again, not an

[25:13] not. Yes, not have been helpful, even though, again, not an ideal situation if you have two

[25:14] even though, again, not an ideal situation if you have two

[25:14] even though, again, not an ideal situation if you have two officer involved shootings. But

[25:17] ideal situation if you have two officer involved shootings. But

[25:17] ideal situation if you have two officer involved shootings. But yeah I appreciate your

[25:18] officer involved shootings. But yeah I appreciate your

[25:18] officer involved shootings. But yeah I appreciate your appreciate your report. Yeah.

[25:19] yeah I appreciate your appreciate your report. Yeah.

[25:19] yeah I appreciate your appreciate your report. Yeah. Thank you sir. Yeah. Colleagues

[25:22] appreciate your report. Yeah. Thank you sir. Yeah. Colleagues

[25:22] appreciate your report. Yeah. Thank you sir. Yeah. Colleagues any other questions for chief

[25:25] Thank you sir. Yeah. Colleagues any other questions for chief

[25:25] Thank you sir. Yeah. Colleagues any other questions for chief okay. Seeing none I'd like to

[25:26] any other questions for chief okay. Seeing none I'd like to

[25:26] any other questions for chief okay. Seeing none I'd like to recommend that we note and file

[25:28] okay. Seeing none I'd like to recommend that we note and file

[25:28] okay. Seeing none I'd like to recommend that we note and file this report. Clerk. Thank you,

[25:30] recommend that we note and file this report. Clerk. Thank you,

[25:30] recommend that we note and file this report. Clerk. Thank you, chief, for joining us. Okay.

[25:32] this report. Clerk. Thank you, chief, for joining us. Okay.

[25:32] this report. Clerk. Thank you, chief, for joining us. Okay. Thank you. Madam clerk, can you

[25:33] chief, for joining us. Okay. Thank you. Madam clerk, can you

[25:33] chief, for joining us. Okay. Thank you. Madam clerk, can you please call the And this

[25:35] Thank you. Madam clerk, can you please call the And this

[25:35] Thank you. Madam clerk, can you please call the And this Council member Lee? Aye.

[25:37] please call the And this Council member Lee? Aye.

[25:37] please call the And this Council member Lee? Aye. Council member price. Absent.

[25:38] Council member Lee? Aye. Council member price. Absent.

[25:38] Council member Lee? Aye. Council member price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes.

[25:40] Council member price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes.

[25:40] Council member price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Martinez. Yes.

[25:42] Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Martinez. Yes.

[25:43] Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four

[25:45] Council member. Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four

[25:45] Council member. Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four ayes. This item will be noted

[25:46] Council member. Park. Yes. Four ayes. This item will be noted

[25:46] Council member. Park. Yes. Four ayes. This item will be noted and filed. Okay. I believe that

[25:48] ayes. This item will be noted and filed. Okay. I believe that

[25:48] ayes. This item will be noted and filed. Okay. I believe that brings us to item number one.

[25:50] and filed. Okay. I believe that brings us to item number one.

[25:50] and filed. Okay. I believe that brings us to item number one. Can you please read item number

[25:51] brings us to item number one. Can you please read item number

[25:51] brings us to item number one. Can you please read item number one into the record? Item one

[25:53] Can you please read item number one into the record? Item one

[25:53] Can you please read item number one into the record? Item one is consideration of a Board of

[25:55] one into the record? Item one is consideration of a Board of

[25:55] one into the record? Item one is consideration of a Board of Police Commissioners report

[25:56] is consideration of a Board of Police Commissioners report

[25:56] is consideration of a Board of Police Commissioners report relative to the revised basic

[25:58] Police Commissioners report relative to the revised basic

[25:58] Police Commissioners report relative to the revised basic Car Plan and Department Control

[25:59] relative to the revised basic Car Plan and Department Control

[25:59] relative to the revised basic Car Plan and Department Control plan for 20 2526. Oh my gosh.

[26:12] Car Plan and Department Control plan for 20 2526. Oh my gosh.

[26:12] Car Plan and Department Control plan for 20 2526. Oh my gosh. Thank you for joining us at the

[26:14] plan for 20 2526. Oh my gosh. Thank you for joining us at the

[26:14] plan for 20 2526. Oh my gosh. Thank you for joining us at the table. If you would like to

[26:15] Thank you for joining us at the table. If you would like to

[26:15] Thank you for joining us at the table. If you would like to give us a brief summary of your

[26:17] table. If you would like to give us a brief summary of your

[26:17] table. If you would like to give us a brief summary of your report, chief. Absolutely. Good

[26:19] give us a brief summary of your report, chief. Absolutely. Good

[26:19] give us a brief summary of your report, chief. Absolutely. Good afternoon, council members. My

[26:20] report, chief. Absolutely. Good afternoon, council members. My

[26:20] report, chief. Absolutely. Good afternoon, council members. My name is Amanda Tingirides. I am

[26:22] afternoon, council members. My name is Amanda Tingirides. I am

[26:22] afternoon, council members. My name is Amanda Tingirides. I am the director of the Office of

[26:25] name is Amanda Tingirides. I am the director of the Office of

[26:25] name is Amanda Tingirides. I am the director of the Office of Operations. And with me today I

[26:26] the director of the Office of Operations. And with me today I

[26:26] the director of the Office of Operations. And with me today I have the assistant director of

[26:28] Operations. And with me today I have the assistant director of

[26:28] Operations. And with me today I have the assistant director of the Office of Operations

[26:29] have the assistant director of the Office of Operations

[26:29] have the assistant director of the Office of Operations Commander Brian, Liam and our

[26:31] the Office of Operations Commander Brian, Liam and our

[26:31] the Office of Operations Commander Brian, Liam and our sergeant that oversees our

[26:33] Commander Brian, Liam and our sergeant that oversees our

[26:33] Commander Brian, Liam and our sergeant that oversees our field deployment unit, Sergeant

[26:35] sergeant that oversees our field deployment unit, Sergeant

[26:35] sergeant that oversees our field deployment unit, Sergeant John Alipio. So thank you for

[26:37] field deployment unit, Sergeant John Alipio. So thank you for

[26:37] field deployment unit, Sergeant John Alipio. So thank you for having us today. As you know,

[26:40] John Alipio. So thank you for having us today. As you know,

[26:40] John Alipio. So thank you for having us today. As you know, in the mayor's proposed budget,

[26:42] having us today. As you know, in the mayor's proposed budget,

[26:42] having us today. As you know, in the mayor's proposed budget, the LAPD was asked to look at

[26:44] in the mayor's proposed budget, the LAPD was asked to look at

[26:44] in the mayor's proposed budget, the LAPD was asked to look at our basic car plan as well as

[26:47] the LAPD was asked to look at our basic car plan as well as

[26:47] the LAPD was asked to look at our basic car plan as well as our patrol plan for the 2025,

[26:50] our basic car plan as well as our patrol plan for the 2025,

[26:50] our basic car plan as well as our patrol plan for the 2025, 2026 year. When we did that, we

[26:53] our patrol plan for the 2025, 2026 year. When we did that, we

[26:53] our patrol plan for the 2025, 2026 year. When we did that, we parceled it out into two

[26:55] 2026 year. When we did that, we parceled it out into two

[26:55] 2026 year. When we did that, we parceled it out into two separate subjects. We looked at

[26:58] parceled it out into two separate subjects. We looked at

[26:58] parceled it out into two separate subjects. We looked at our basic car plan and the

[27:00] separate subjects. We looked at our basic car plan and the

[27:00] separate subjects. We looked at our basic car plan and the feasibility of being able to

[27:03] our basic car plan and the feasibility of being able to

[27:04] our basic car plan and the feasibility of being able to change it or redraw lines. And

[27:07] feasibility of being able to change it or redraw lines. And

[27:07] feasibility of being able to change it or redraw lines. And we found that that would be a

[27:09] change it or redraw lines. And we found that that would be a

[27:09] change it or redraw lines. And we found that that would be a difficult task for several

[27:11] we found that that would be a difficult task for several

[27:11] we found that that would be a difficult task for several reasons. One, we'd have to go

[27:12] difficult task for several reasons. One, we'd have to go

[27:12] difficult task for several reasons. One, we'd have to go to an RFP in order to do that.

[27:15] reasons. One, we'd have to go to an RFP in order to do that.

[27:15] reasons. One, we'd have to go to an RFP in order to do that. There'd be consideration for

[27:17] to an RFP in order to do that. There'd be consideration for

[27:17] to an RFP in order to do that. There'd be consideration for reassessment of boundaries and

[27:19] There'd be consideration for reassessment of boundaries and

[27:19] There'd be consideration for reassessment of boundaries and maps, and it would cost a

[27:21] reassessment of boundaries and maps, and it would cost a

[27:22] reassessment of boundaries and maps, and it would cost a significant amount of funding

[27:24] maps, and it would cost a significant amount of funding

[27:24] maps, and it would cost a significant amount of funding to be able to do that. As you

[27:26] significant amount of funding to be able to do that. As you

[27:26] significant amount of funding to be able to do that. As you know, at each patrol division,

[27:28] to be able to do that. As you know, at each patrol division,

[27:28] to be able to do that. As you know, at each patrol division, we have anywhere between 6 and

[27:30] know, at each patrol division, we have anywhere between 6 and

[27:30] know, at each patrol division, we have anywhere between 6 and 11 basic A cars, for a total of

[27:33] we have anywhere between 6 and 11 basic A cars, for a total of

[27:33] we have anywhere between 6 and 11 basic A cars, for a total of 168 basic cars across the city.

[27:38] 11 basic A cars, for a total of 168 basic cars across the city.

[27:38] 11 basic A cars, for a total of 168 basic cars across the city. And so perhaps in the future,

[27:39] 168 basic cars across the city. And so perhaps in the future,

[27:40] 168 basic cars across the city. And so perhaps in the future, this is something that we we

[27:41] And so perhaps in the future, this is something that we we

[27:41] And so perhaps in the future, this is something that we we can look at, but we didn't see

[27:43] this is something that we we can look at, but we didn't see

[27:43] this is something that we we can look at, but we didn't see it as being feasible for the

[27:46] can look at, but we didn't see it as being feasible for the

[27:46] can look at, but we didn't see it as being feasible for the 2526 year as it relates to the

[27:50] it as being feasible for the 2526 year as it relates to the

[27:50] it as being feasible for the 2526 year as it relates to the patrol plan that was adopted in

[27:52] 2526 year as it relates to the patrol plan that was adopted in

[27:52] 2526 year as it relates to the patrol plan that was adopted in 1988, and it was adopted off

[27:54] patrol plan that was adopted in 1988, and it was adopted off

[27:54] patrol plan that was adopted in 1988, and it was adopted off the premises of a 740, a seven

[27:57] 1988, and it was adopted off the premises of a 740, a seven

[27:57] 1988, and it was adopted off the premises of a 740, a seven minute response time to a radio

[27:59] the premises of a 740, a seven minute response time to a radio

[27:59] the premises of a 740, a seven minute response time to a radio call, and 40% of that time

[28:01] minute response time to a radio call, and 40% of that time

[28:01] minute response time to a radio call, and 40% of that time being proactive. Policing. The

[28:05] call, and 40% of that time being proactive. Policing. The

[28:05] call, and 40% of that time being proactive. Policing. The LAPD utilizes different

[28:08] being proactive. Policing. The LAPD utilizes different

[28:08] being proactive. Policing. The LAPD utilizes different workload algorithms and 25

[28:11] LAPD utilizes different workload algorithms and 25

[28:11] LAPD utilizes different workload algorithms and 25 categories that helps us

[28:14] workload algorithms and 25 categories that helps us

[28:14] workload algorithms and 25 categories that helps us identify how many basic cars

[28:17] categories that helps us identify how many basic cars

[28:17] categories that helps us identify how many basic cars each division needs. The LAPD

[28:20] identify how many basic cars each division needs. The LAPD

[28:20] identify how many basic cars each division needs. The LAPD had not had not revised our Our

[28:24] each division needs. The LAPD had not had not revised our Our

[28:24] each division needs. The LAPD had not had not revised our Our patrol plan since 2023. And so

[28:28] had not had not revised our Our patrol plan since 2023. And so

[28:28] had not had not revised our Our patrol plan since 2023. And so with this ask and with the

[28:30] patrol plan since 2023. And so with this ask and with the

[28:30] patrol plan since 2023. And so with this ask and with the reorganization of our

[28:31] with this ask and with the reorganization of our

[28:31] with this ask and with the reorganization of our department, we looked at our

[28:34] reorganization of our department, we looked at our

[28:34] reorganization of our department, we looked at our basic patrol plan, basic car

[28:38] department, we looked at our basic patrol plan, basic car

[28:38] department, we looked at our basic patrol plan, basic car plan, and we revised it. And

[28:41] basic patrol plan, basic car plan, and we revised it. And

[28:41] basic patrol plan, basic car plan, and we revised it. And with that, we came out with new

[28:43] plan, and we revised it. And with that, we came out with new

[28:43] plan, and we revised it. And with that, we came out with new numbers for each division. And

[28:45] with that, we came out with new numbers for each division. And

[28:45] with that, we came out with new numbers for each division. And what we identified is there

[28:47] numbers for each division. And what we identified is there

[28:47] numbers for each division. And what we identified is there were some divisions that fell

[28:49] what we identified is there were some divisions that fell

[28:49] what we identified is there were some divisions that fell short and the number of

[28:50] were some divisions that fell short and the number of

[28:50] were some divisions that fell short and the number of officers that they would need.

[28:52] short and the number of officers that they would need.

[28:52] short and the number of officers that they would need. Since this report was presented

[28:54] officers that they would need. Since this report was presented

[28:54] officers that they would need. Since this report was presented to our Board of Police

[28:56] Since this report was presented to our Board of Police

[28:56] Since this report was presented to our Board of Police Commissioners, we've seen a

[28:57] to our Board of Police Commissioners, we've seen a

[28:57] to our Board of Police Commissioners, we've seen a significant decrease in the

[28:59] Commissioners, we've seen a significant decrease in the

[28:59] Commissioners, we've seen a significant decrease in the need at some of these divisions.

[29:01] significant decrease in the need at some of these divisions.

[29:01] significant decrease in the need at some of these divisions. And I'm happy to say

[29:02] need at some of these divisions. And I'm happy to say

[29:02] need at some of these divisions. And I'm happy to say specifically one division,

[29:04] And I'm happy to say specifically one division,

[29:04] And I'm happy to say specifically one division, mission Division. Initially

[29:05] specifically one division, mission Division. Initially

[29:05] specifically one division, mission Division. Initially when we did this report, we're

[29:07] mission Division. Initially when we did this report, we're

[29:07] mission Division. Initially when we did this report, we're down 26 officers. We've added 8

[29:10] when we did this report, we're down 26 officers. We've added 8

[29:10] when we did this report, we're down 26 officers. We've added 8 or 9 officers to that division,

[29:11] down 26 officers. We've added 8 or 9 officers to that division,

[29:11] down 26 officers. We've added 8 or 9 officers to that division, and now they're a deficit of 11.

[29:14] or 9 officers to that division, and now they're a deficit of 11.

[29:14] or 9 officers to that division, and now they're a deficit of 11. So working with our personnel

[29:16] and now they're a deficit of 11. So working with our personnel

[29:16] and now they're a deficit of 11. So working with our personnel department, our field

[29:17] So working with our personnel department, our field

[29:17] So working with our personnel department, our field deployment unit, and the

[29:20] department, our field deployment unit, and the

[29:20] department, our field deployment unit, and the transfers and officers

[29:21] deployment unit, and the transfers and officers

[29:21] deployment unit, and the transfers and officers graduating out of the academy,

[29:23] transfers and officers graduating out of the academy,

[29:23] transfers and officers graduating out of the academy, some of the divisions that did

[29:24] graduating out of the academy, some of the divisions that did

[29:24] graduating out of the academy, some of the divisions that did show a deficit were looking to

[29:26] some of the divisions that did show a deficit were looking to

[29:27] some of the divisions that did show a deficit were looking to make those divisions whole. As

[29:28] show a deficit were looking to make those divisions whole. As

[29:28] show a deficit were looking to make those divisions whole. As we move through, it's important

[29:31] make those divisions whole. As we move through, it's important

[29:31] make those divisions whole. As we move through, it's important to note that the the the patrol

[29:35] we move through, it's important to note that the the the patrol

[29:35] we move through, it's important to note that the the the patrol plan is strictly basic a cars.

[29:39] to note that the the the patrol plan is strictly basic a cars.

[29:39] to note that the the the patrol plan is strictly basic a cars. It doesn't include kit room,

[29:41] plan is strictly basic a cars. It doesn't include kit room,

[29:42] plan is strictly basic a cars. It doesn't include kit room, front desk, detectives,

[29:45] It doesn't include kit room, front desk, detectives,

[29:45] It doesn't include kit room, front desk, detectives, narcotics gangs, specialized

[29:47] front desk, detectives, narcotics gangs, specialized

[29:47] front desk, detectives, narcotics gangs, specialized units. It's strictly a cars and

[29:50] narcotics gangs, specialized units. It's strictly a cars and

[29:50] narcotics gangs, specialized units. It's strictly a cars and X cars responding to radio

[29:53] units. It's strictly a cars and X cars responding to radio

[29:53] units. It's strictly a cars and X cars responding to radio calls. So when we when we

[29:55] X cars responding to radio calls. So when we when we

[29:55] X cars responding to radio calls. So when we when we revised the patrol plan, that's

[29:57] calls. So when we when we revised the patrol plan, that's

[29:57] calls. So when we when we revised the patrol plan, that's just for the a cars on top of

[30:00] revised the patrol plan, that's just for the a cars on top of

[30:00] revised the patrol plan, that's just for the a cars on top of any excess officers that may

[30:02] just for the a cars on top of any excess officers that may

[30:02] just for the a cars on top of any excess officers that may appear on that patrol plan,

[30:04] any excess officers that may appear on that patrol plan,

[30:04] any excess officers that may appear on that patrol plan, they are plugged into those

[30:06] appear on that patrol plan, they are plugged into those

[30:06] appear on that patrol plan, they are plugged into those other entities that that I just

[30:08] they are plugged into those other entities that that I just

[30:09] they are plugged into those other entities that that I just described. Okay. Chief. So you

[30:15] other entities that that I just described. Okay. Chief. So you

[30:15] other entities that that I just described. Okay. Chief. So you said the last time it was

[30:17] described. Okay. Chief. So you said the last time it was

[30:17] described. Okay. Chief. So you said the last time it was updated was in 2023. That's

[30:19] said the last time it was updated was in 2023. That's

[30:19] said the last time it was updated was in 2023. That's when they did a full assessment

[30:20] updated was in 2023. That's when they did a full assessment

[30:20] updated was in 2023. That's when they did a full assessment and made made actual changes to

[30:22] when they did a full assessment and made made actual changes to

[30:22] when they did a full assessment and made made actual changes to the basic cars in different

[30:24] and made made actual changes to the basic cars in different

[30:24] and made made actual changes to the basic cars in different communities, not the basic cars.

[30:26] the basic cars in different communities, not the basic cars.

[30:26] the basic cars in different communities, not the basic cars. The the our patrol plan. Okay.

[30:28] communities, not the basic cars. The the our patrol plan. Okay.

[30:28] communities, not the basic cars. The the our patrol plan. Okay. Got it. Yeah. I'm sorry. And so

[30:30] The the our patrol plan. Okay. Got it. Yeah. I'm sorry. And so

[30:30] The the our patrol plan. Okay. Got it. Yeah. I'm sorry. And so now you're saying if for us to

[30:33] Got it. Yeah. I'm sorry. And so now you're saying if for us to

[30:33] Got it. Yeah. I'm sorry. And so now you're saying if for us to do to revise this, we need to

[30:35] now you're saying if for us to do to revise this, we need to

[30:35] now you're saying if for us to do to revise this, we need to go to an RFP to get someone to

[30:38] do to revise this, we need to go to an RFP to get someone to

[30:38] do to revise this, we need to go to an RFP to get someone to advise us. I mean, we don't

[30:40] go to an RFP to get someone to advise us. I mean, we don't

[30:40] go to an RFP to get someone to advise us. I mean, we don't think that the captains of the

[30:42] advise us. I mean, we don't think that the captains of the

[30:42] advise us. I mean, we don't think that the captains of the divisions have a good sense of,

[30:44] think that the captains of the divisions have a good sense of,

[30:44] think that the captains of the divisions have a good sense of, you know, where their basic

[30:46] divisions have a good sense of, you know, where their basic

[30:46] divisions have a good sense of, you know, where their basic cars are needed. Well, when the

[30:50] you know, where their basic cars are needed. Well, when the

[30:50] you know, where their basic cars are needed. Well, when the the the basic car plan was, was

[30:55] cars are needed. Well, when the the the basic car plan was, was

[30:55] cars are needed. Well, when the the the basic car plan was, was implemented, there were so many

[30:56] the the basic car plan was, was implemented, there were so many

[30:56] the the basic car plan was, was implemented, there were so many factors that went into it.

[30:58] implemented, there were so many factors that went into it.

[30:58] implemented, there were so many factors that went into it. Radio call population, how big

[31:01] factors that went into it. Radio call population, how big

[31:01] factors that went into it. Radio call population, how big the area is. When we do have,

[31:04] Radio call population, how big the area is. When we do have,

[31:04] Radio call population, how big the area is. When we do have, when we have the luxury of

[31:06] the area is. When we do have, when we have the luxury of

[31:07] the area is. When we do have, when we have the luxury of deploying an additional unit,

[31:08] when we have the luxury of deploying an additional unit,

[31:08] when we have the luxury of deploying an additional unit, we will put in what we call an

[31:10] deploying an additional unit, we will put in what we call an

[31:10] deploying an additional unit, we will put in what we call an X car in an area that we know

[31:13] we will put in what we call an X car in an area that we know

[31:13] we will put in what we call an X car in an area that we know has a high volume of call

[31:15] X car in an area that we know has a high volume of call

[31:15] X car in an area that we know has a high volume of call volume, so we can have that

[31:16] has a high volume of call volume, so we can have that

[31:16] has a high volume of call volume, so we can have that extra additional resource. Or

[31:18] volume, so we can have that extra additional resource. Or

[31:18] volume, so we can have that extra additional resource. Or when we identify specific crime

[31:20] extra additional resource. Or when we identify specific crime

[31:20] extra additional resource. Or when we identify specific crime trends or patterns, we can put

[31:22] when we identify specific crime trends or patterns, we can put

[31:22] when we identify specific crime trends or patterns, we can put that additional X car in that

[31:25] trends or patterns, we can put that additional X car in that

[31:25] trends or patterns, we can put that additional X car in that area. But to revise an entire

[31:27] that additional X car in that area. But to revise an entire

[31:27] that additional X car in that area. But to revise an entire basic car plan, we definitely

[31:30] area. But to revise an entire basic car plan, we definitely

[31:30] area. But to revise an entire basic car plan, we definitely need someone with that subject

[31:31] basic car plan, we definitely need someone with that subject

[31:32] basic car plan, we definitely need someone with that subject matter expertise. We'd have to

[31:33] need someone with that subject matter expertise. We'd have to

[31:33] need someone with that subject matter expertise. We'd have to look at the the number of call

[31:36] matter expertise. We'd have to look at the the number of call

[31:36] matter expertise. We'd have to look at the the number of call volumes. We've also had the

[31:38] look at the the number of call volumes. We've also had the

[31:39] look at the the number of call volumes. We've also had the opportunity to implement our

[31:40] volumes. We've also had the opportunity to implement our

[31:40] volumes. We've also had the opportunity to implement our community online reporting

[31:41] opportunity to implement our community online reporting

[31:41] opportunity to implement our community online reporting system. There's been over

[31:43] community online reporting system. There's been over

[31:43] community online reporting system. There's been over 200,000 reports taken online.

[31:46] system. There's been over 200,000 reports taken online.

[31:46] system. There's been over 200,000 reports taken online. That's 200,000 less radio calls

[31:49] 200,000 reports taken online. That's 200,000 less radio calls

[31:49] 200,000 reports taken online. That's 200,000 less radio calls that our officers would have to

[31:51] That's 200,000 less radio calls that our officers would have to

[31:51] That's 200,000 less radio calls that our officers would have to respond out to the location to

[31:53] that our officers would have to respond out to the location to

[31:53] that our officers would have to respond out to the location to take a report. So all of those

[31:55] respond out to the location to take a report. So all of those

[31:55] respond out to the location to take a report. So all of those factors would go into us

[31:57] take a report. So all of those factors would go into us

[31:57] take a report. So all of those factors would go into us revising our actual basic car

[32:00] factors would go into us revising our actual basic car

[32:00] factors would go into us revising our actual basic car plan, including mapping and

[32:03] revising our actual basic car plan, including mapping and

[32:03] revising our actual basic car plan, including mapping and redistricting. And that would

[32:04] plan, including mapping and redistricting. And that would

[32:04] plan, including mapping and redistricting. And that would take a lot of time and

[32:06] redistricting. And that would take a lot of time and

[32:06] redistricting. And that would take a lot of time and definitely would have to go out

[32:07] take a lot of time and definitely would have to go out

[32:07] take a lot of time and definitely would have to go out to an RFP. I believe the last

[32:09] definitely would have to go out to an RFP. I believe the last

[32:09] definitely would have to go out to an RFP. I believe the last time we did that was what, year

[32:12] to an RFP. I believe the last time we did that was what, year

[32:12] to an RFP. I believe the last time we did that was what, year or initially? So 1990, 97 is

[32:17] time we did that was what, year or initially? So 1990, 97 is

[32:18] time we did that was what, year or initially? So 1990, 97 is the approximate the last time

[32:19] or initially? So 1990, 97 is the approximate the last time

[32:19] or initially? So 1990, 97 is the approximate the last time the actual basic car number

[32:21] the approximate the last time the actual basic car number

[32:21] the approximate the last time the actual basic car number count was changed. And even

[32:24] the actual basic car number count was changed. And even

[32:24] the actual basic car number count was changed. And even when the establishment of

[32:26] count was changed. And even when the establishment of

[32:26] count was changed. And even when the establishment of Topanga and Olympic, when that

[32:31] when the establishment of Topanga and Olympic, when that

[32:31] when the establishment of Topanga and Olympic, when that came into establishment, we

[32:32] Topanga and Olympic, when that came into establishment, we

[32:33] Topanga and Olympic, when that came into establishment, we didn't add additional. We just

[32:34] came into establishment, we didn't add additional. We just

[32:34] came into establishment, we didn't add additional. We just carved out those previous eight

[32:36] didn't add additional. We just carved out those previous eight

[32:36] didn't add additional. We just carved out those previous eight cars from the other divisions

[32:38] carved out those previous eight cars from the other divisions

[32:38] carved out those previous eight cars from the other divisions and placed them into those. So

[32:39] cars from the other divisions and placed them into those. So

[32:39] cars from the other divisions and placed them into those. So the count remained at 168. And

[32:42] and placed them into those. So the count remained at 168. And

[32:42] and placed them into those. So the count remained at 168. And when those were created,

[32:43] the count remained at 168. And when those were created,

[32:43] the count remained at 168. And when those were created, initially, it was they tried to

[32:46] when those were created, initially, it was they tried to

[32:46] when those were created, initially, it was they tried to build like the chief said,

[32:47] initially, it was they tried to build like the chief said,

[32:47] initially, it was they tried to build like the chief said, radio calls, community centers,

[32:51] build like the chief said, radio calls, community centers,

[32:51] build like the chief said, radio calls, community centers, streets. They tried to create

[32:52] radio calls, community centers, streets. They tried to create

[32:52] radio calls, community centers, streets. They tried to create it. So because the focus of the

[32:54] streets. They tried to create it. So because the focus of the

[32:54] streets. They tried to create it. So because the focus of the basic eight car is the quality

[32:55] it. So because the focus of the basic eight car is the quality

[32:55] it. So because the focus of the basic eight car is the quality of life service. So there's a

[32:57] basic eight car is the quality of life service. So there's a

[32:57] basic eight car is the quality of life service. So there's a senior lead officer assigned to

[32:58] of life service. So there's a senior lead officer assigned to

[32:58] of life service. So there's a senior lead officer assigned to each basic car they lead, like

[33:00] senior lead officer assigned to each basic car they lead, like

[33:00] senior lead officer assigned to each basic car they lead, like Sarah projects situations like

[33:01] each basic car they lead, like Sarah projects situations like

[33:01] each basic car they lead, like Sarah projects situations like that. A lot of quality of life

[33:05] Sarah projects situations like that. A lot of quality of life

[33:05] Sarah projects situations like that. A lot of quality of life concerns outside of just the

[33:06] that. A lot of quality of life concerns outside of just the

[33:06] that. A lot of quality of life concerns outside of just the responding to emergency radio

[33:07] concerns outside of just the responding to emergency radio

[33:07] concerns outside of just the responding to emergency radio calls. When we talk about

[33:10] responding to emergency radio calls. When we talk about

[33:10] responding to emergency radio calls. When we talk about patrol plan, it's a separate

[33:12] calls. When we talk about patrol plan, it's a separate

[33:12] calls. When we talk about patrol plan, it's a separate concept. It's not how many

[33:14] patrol plan, it's a separate concept. It's not how many

[33:14] patrol plan, it's a separate concept. It's not how many people I mean, officers are

[33:15] concept. It's not how many people I mean, officers are

[33:15] concept. It's not how many people I mean, officers are needed to handle all the patrol

[33:17] people I mean, officers are needed to handle all the patrol

[33:17] people I mean, officers are needed to handle all the patrol calls, the demand radio calls,

[33:18] needed to handle all the patrol calls, the demand radio calls,

[33:18] needed to handle all the patrol calls, the demand radio calls, all of that. It is. That's just

[33:21] calls, the demand radio calls, all of that. It is. That's just

[33:21] calls, the demand radio calls, all of that. It is. That's just our in cars. When we're talking

[33:23] all of that. It is. That's just our in cars. When we're talking

[33:23] all of that. It is. That's just our in cars. When we're talking about basic eight cars, it's a

[33:25] our in cars. When we're talking about basic eight cars, it's a

[33:25] our in cars. When we're talking about basic eight cars, it's a whole the whole delivery system

[33:27] about basic eight cars, it's a whole the whole delivery system

[33:27] about basic eight cars, it's a whole the whole delivery system of service to the community and

[33:30] whole the whole delivery system of service to the community and

[33:30] whole the whole delivery system of service to the community and the aspects and the factors

[33:33] of service to the community and the aspects and the factors

[33:33] of service to the community and the aspects and the factors that would come into separating

[33:34] the aspects and the factors that would come into separating

[33:34] the aspects and the factors that would come into separating the amount are I could come up

[33:37] that would come into separating the amount are I could come up

[33:37] that would come into separating the amount are I could come up with an idea. Chief could come

[33:39] the amount are I could come up with an idea. Chief could come

[33:39] the amount are I could come up with an idea. Chief could come up with the idea, but there's

[33:40] with an idea. Chief could come up with the idea, but there's

[33:40] with an idea. Chief could come up with the idea, but there's always going to be a give and

[33:42] up with the idea, but there's always going to be a give and

[33:42] up with the idea, but there's always going to be a give and take on that. That would take

[33:44] always going to be a give and take on that. That would take

[33:44] always going to be a give and take on that. That would take time and agreement in all

[33:45] take on that. That would take time and agreement in all

[33:45] take on that. That would take time and agreement in all different levels. The the city,

[33:47] time and agreement in all different levels. The the city,

[33:47] time and agreement in all different levels. The the city, the department, the league,

[33:49] different levels. The the city, the department, the league,

[33:49] different levels. The the city, the department, the league, everyone have to agree on where

[33:50] the department, the league, everyone have to agree on where

[33:50] the department, the league, everyone have to agree on where that has to be. And that'll

[33:52] everyone have to agree on where that has to be. And that'll

[33:52] everyone have to agree on where that has to be. And that'll take time and probably agree on

[33:54] that has to be. And that'll take time and probably agree on

[33:54] that has to be. And that'll take time and probably agree on a company which will probably

[33:55] take time and probably agree on a company which will probably

[33:55] take time and probably agree on a company which will probably take money. So. So in keeping

[33:59] a company which will probably take money. So. So in keeping

[33:59] a company which will probably take money. So. So in keeping with the 740 I, is that still

[34:04] take money. So. So in keeping with the 740 I, is that still

[34:04] take money. So. So in keeping with the 740 I, is that still the formula today? And with us

[34:07] with the 740 I, is that still the formula today? And with us

[34:07] with the 740 I, is that still the formula today? And with us being down in numbers, we are

[34:09] the formula today? And with us being down in numbers, we are

[34:09] the formula today? And with us being down in numbers, we are once we revised our numbers

[34:11] being down in numbers, we are once we revised our numbers

[34:11] being down in numbers, we are once we revised our numbers effective two weeks ago, we are

[34:13] once we revised our numbers effective two weeks ago, we are

[34:13] once we revised our numbers effective two weeks ago, we are utilizing the 730. So still the

[34:16] effective two weeks ago, we are utilizing the 730. So still the

[34:16] effective two weeks ago, we are utilizing the 730. So still the seven minute response time in

[34:18] utilizing the 730. So still the seven minute response time in

[34:18] utilizing the 730. So still the seven minute response time in 30% of the time for community

[34:20] seven minute response time in 30% of the time for community

[34:20] seven minute response time in 30% of the time for community outreach and engagement and

[34:22] 30% of the time for community outreach and engagement and

[34:22] 30% of the time for community outreach and engagement and proactive policing. So I feel

[34:24] outreach and engagement and proactive policing. So I feel

[34:24] outreach and engagement and proactive policing. So I feel that when there are incidents

[34:25] proactive policing. So I feel that when there are incidents

[34:25] proactive policing. So I feel that when there are incidents around the city, patrol

[34:26] that when there are incidents around the city, patrol

[34:26] that when there are incidents around the city, patrol officers are being pulled from

[34:27] around the city, patrol officers are being pulled from

[34:27] around the city, patrol officers are being pulled from their assignments, the regular

[34:29] officers are being pulled from their assignments, the regular

[34:29] officers are being pulled from their assignments, the regular duties, how do we then back up

[34:32] their assignments, the regular duties, how do we then back up

[34:32] their assignments, the regular duties, how do we then back up that what what do we do in

[34:33] duties, how do we then back up that what what do we do in

[34:33] duties, how do we then back up that what what do we do in those situations? Are people

[34:34] that what what do we do in those situations? Are people

[34:34] that what what do we do in those situations? Are people pulled from different duties to

[34:37] those situations? Are people pulled from different duties to

[34:37] those situations? Are people pulled from different duties to do patrol? So we have a minimum

[34:42] pulled from different duties to do patrol? So we have a minimum

[34:42] pulled from different duties to do patrol? So we have a minimum staffing and we have 100%

[34:44] do patrol? So we have a minimum staffing and we have 100%

[34:44] do patrol? So we have a minimum staffing and we have 100% deployment plan. So if there's

[34:46] staffing and we have 100% deployment plan. So if there's

[34:46] staffing and we have 100% deployment plan. So if there's a protest or a significant

[34:48] deployment plan. So if there's a protest or a significant

[34:49] deployment plan. So if there's a protest or a significant incident that occurs in the

[34:50] a protest or a significant incident that occurs in the

[34:50] a protest or a significant incident that occurs in the city, we will divert resources

[34:53] incident that occurs in the city, we will divert resources

[34:53] incident that occurs in the city, we will divert resources from different parts of the

[34:55] city, we will divert resources from different parts of the

[34:55] city, we will divert resources from different parts of the city and the divisions to meet

[34:56] from different parts of the city and the divisions to meet

[34:56] from different parts of the city and the divisions to meet that need. And that division

[34:58] city and the divisions to meet that need. And that division

[34:58] city and the divisions to meet that need. And that division will go down to minimums.

[35:00] that need. And that division will go down to minimums.

[35:00] that need. And that division will go down to minimums. Minimums is usually half of

[35:02] will go down to minimums. Minimums is usually half of

[35:02] will go down to minimums. Minimums is usually half of your basic eight cars within

[35:04] Minimums is usually half of your basic eight cars within

[35:04] Minimums is usually half of your basic eight cars within your division. So most recent

[35:07] your basic eight cars within your division. So most recent

[35:07] your basic eight cars within your division. So most recent with the large protest or the

[35:10] your division. So most recent with the large protest or the

[35:10] your division. So most recent with the large protest or the MLK parade or spontaneous

[35:12] with the large protest or the MLK parade or spontaneous

[35:13] with the large protest or the MLK parade or spontaneous events, we do have to take

[35:14] MLK parade or spontaneous events, we do have to take

[35:14] MLK parade or spontaneous events, we do have to take resources from other parts of

[35:15] events, we do have to take resources from other parts of

[35:15] events, we do have to take resources from other parts of the city, but we at least

[35:17] resources from other parts of the city, but we at least

[35:17] resources from other parts of the city, but we at least ensure that each division is

[35:19] the city, but we at least ensure that each division is

[35:19] the city, but we at least ensure that each division is patrolling at their minimums

[35:21] ensure that each division is patrolling at their minimums

[35:21] ensure that each division is patrolling at their minimums and the minimums are half of

[35:22] patrolling at their minimums and the minimums are half of

[35:22] patrolling at their minimums and the minimums are half of what they have. So response

[35:24] and the minimums are half of what they have. So response

[35:24] and the minimums are half of what they have. So response times are obviously affected in

[35:26] what they have. So response times are obviously affected in

[35:26] what they have. So response times are obviously affected in those areas. Well, the I

[35:29] times are obviously affected in those areas. Well, the I

[35:29] times are obviously affected in those areas. Well, the I believe it or not, the response

[35:30] those areas. Well, the I believe it or not, the response

[35:30] those areas. Well, the I believe it or not, the response time, we're still hitting that

[35:32] believe it or not, the response time, we're still hitting that

[35:32] believe it or not, the response time, we're still hitting that seven minute response time. And

[35:33] time, we're still hitting that seven minute response time. And

[35:33] time, we're still hitting that seven minute response time. And that's for 911 calls for non

[35:37] seven minute response time. And that's for 911 calls for non

[35:37] seven minute response time. And that's for 911 calls for non coded calls. That number goes

[35:38] that's for 911 calls for non coded calls. That number goes

[35:38] that's for 911 calls for non coded calls. That number goes up a bit. But we're meeting

[35:40] coded calls. That number goes up a bit. But we're meeting

[35:40] coded calls. That number goes up a bit. But we're meeting that seven minute mark in all

[35:41] up a bit. But we're meeting that seven minute mark in all

[35:41] up a bit. But we're meeting that seven minute mark in all 21 of our divisions okay. So

[35:44] that seven minute mark in all 21 of our divisions okay. So

[35:44] that seven minute mark in all 21 of our divisions okay. So what kind of feedback have you

[35:45] 21 of our divisions okay. So what kind of feedback have you

[35:45] 21 of our divisions okay. So what kind of feedback have you received from patrol officers

[35:46] what kind of feedback have you received from patrol officers

[35:46] what kind of feedback have you received from patrol officers regarding this plan. And how is

[35:48] received from patrol officers regarding this plan. And how is

[35:48] received from patrol officers regarding this plan. And how is the feedback incorporated into

[35:50] regarding this plan. And how is the feedback incorporated into

[35:50] regarding this plan. And how is the feedback incorporated into like future adjustments? So

[35:52] the feedback incorporated into like future adjustments? So

[35:52] the feedback incorporated into like future adjustments? So because we've been doing the

[35:54] like future adjustments? So because we've been doing the

[35:54] like future adjustments? So because we've been doing the patrol plan for decades, our

[35:57] because we've been doing the patrol plan for decades, our

[35:57] because we've been doing the patrol plan for decades, our officers, I don't think they

[35:58] patrol plan for decades, our officers, I don't think they

[35:58] patrol plan for decades, our officers, I don't think they know the difference. It's our

[36:00] officers, I don't think they know the difference. It's our

[36:00] officers, I don't think they know the difference. It's our bureau chiefs and our captains

[36:01] know the difference. It's our bureau chiefs and our captains

[36:02] know the difference. It's our bureau chiefs and our captains that are really engaged and

[36:03] bureau chiefs and our captains that are really engaged and

[36:03] bureau chiefs and our captains that are really engaged and involved in and want to know

[36:05] that are really engaged and involved in and want to know

[36:05] that are really engaged and involved in and want to know what the expectation is for

[36:06] involved in and want to know what the expectation is for

[36:06] involved in and want to know what the expectation is for their deployment and what their

[36:08] what the expectation is for their deployment and what their

[36:08] what the expectation is for their deployment and what their deployment needs are. We did

[36:10] their deployment and what their deployment needs are. We did

[36:10] their deployment and what their deployment needs are. We did sit down and meet with the

[36:12] deployment needs are. We did sit down and meet with the

[36:12] deployment needs are. We did sit down and meet with the Police League to talk about us

[36:14] sit down and meet with the Police League to talk about us

[36:14] sit down and meet with the Police League to talk about us revising this and that. We

[36:15] Police League to talk about us revising this and that. We

[36:15] Police League to talk about us revising this and that. We hadn't done so in several years

[36:17] revising this and that. We hadn't done so in several years

[36:17] revising this and that. We hadn't done so in several years and they took it very well. We

[36:19] hadn't done so in several years and they took it very well. We

[36:20] hadn't done so in several years and they took it very well. We also met with our employee

[36:21] and they took it very well. We also met with our employee

[36:21] and they took it very well. We also met with our employee relations group and had those

[36:23] also met with our employee relations group and had those

[36:24] also met with our employee relations group and had those discussions just a month ago.

[36:25] relations group and had those discussions just a month ago.

[36:25] relations group and had those discussions just a month ago. We met with every single patrol

[36:27] discussions just a month ago. We met with every single patrol

[36:27] discussions just a month ago. We met with every single patrol captain and area captain to

[36:30] We met with every single patrol captain and area captain to

[36:30] We met with every single patrol captain and area captain to explain to them the history,

[36:31] captain and area captain to explain to them the history,

[36:31] captain and area captain to explain to them the history, the patrol plan, how we came up

[36:34] explain to them the history, the patrol plan, how we came up

[36:34] explain to them the history, the patrol plan, how we came up with it, and I think it's been

[36:35] the patrol plan, how we came up with it, and I think it's been

[36:36] the patrol plan, how we came up with it, and I think it's been received very well. I know some

[36:37] with it, and I think it's been received very well. I know some

[36:37] with it, and I think it's been received very well. I know some of the divisions that had a

[36:39] received very well. I know some of the divisions that had a

[36:39] received very well. I know some of the divisions that had a deficit are feeling supported

[36:40] of the divisions that had a deficit are feeling supported

[36:40] of the divisions that had a deficit are feeling supported now because of us really diving

[36:43] deficit are feeling supported now because of us really diving

[36:43] deficit are feeling supported now because of us really diving in and engaging and ensuring

[36:45] now because of us really diving in and engaging and ensuring

[36:45] now because of us really diving in and engaging and ensuring that some of the divisions with

[36:46] in and engaging and ensuring that some of the divisions with

[36:46] in and engaging and ensuring that some of the divisions with the deficit are made as close

[36:48] that some of the divisions with the deficit are made as close

[36:48] that some of the divisions with the deficit are made as close to whole as we can. Okay. So

[36:50] the deficit are made as close to whole as we can. Okay. So

[36:51] the deficit are made as close to whole as we can. Okay. So the numbers that we're seeing

[36:52] to whole as we can. Okay. So the numbers that we're seeing

[36:52] to whole as we can. Okay. So the numbers that we're seeing here are current as far as no,

[36:54] the numbers that we're seeing here are current as far as no,

[36:54] the numbers that we're seeing here are current as far as no, no, we have more current. Do

[36:56] here are current as far as no, no, we have more current. Do

[36:56] here are current as far as no, no, we have more current. Do you have those? Okay. So if you

[36:58] no, we have more current. Do you have those? Okay. So if you

[36:58] no, we have more current. Do you have those? Okay. So if you can see if we can get a copy of

[37:01] you have those? Okay. So if you can see if we can get a copy of

[37:01] you have those? Okay. So if you can see if we can get a copy of that. Yeah. And so the

[37:02] can see if we can get a copy of that. Yeah. And so the

[37:02] can see if we can get a copy of that. Yeah. And so the expansion how is like the

[37:04] that. Yeah. And so the expansion how is like the

[37:04] that. Yeah. And so the expansion how is like the expansion of the UMC. Has that

[37:06] expansion how is like the expansion of the UMC. Has that

[37:06] expansion how is like the expansion of the UMC. Has that had any sort of have we noticed

[37:09] expansion of the UMC. Has that had any sort of have we noticed

[37:09] expansion of the UMC. Has that had any sort of have we noticed any impact on, on, you know,

[37:11] had any sort of have we noticed any impact on, on, you know,

[37:11] had any sort of have we noticed any impact on, on, you know, deployment plans. It's

[37:13] any impact on, on, you know, deployment plans. It's

[37:14] any impact on, on, you know, deployment plans. It's absolutely I like Commander

[37:15] deployment plans. It's absolutely I like Commander

[37:15] deployment plans. It's absolutely I like Commander Liam talk a bit about it. But

[37:18] absolutely I like Commander Liam talk a bit about it. But

[37:18] absolutely I like Commander Liam talk a bit about it. But that also is factored in when

[37:20] Liam talk a bit about it. But that also is factored in when

[37:20] Liam talk a bit about it. But that also is factored in when we look at the workload and how

[37:22] that also is factored in when we look at the workload and how

[37:22] that also is factored in when we look at the workload and how we came up with how many

[37:24] we look at the workload and how we came up with how many

[37:24] we look at the workload and how we came up with how many officers should be assigned to

[37:25] we came up with how many officers should be assigned to

[37:25] we came up with how many officers should be assigned to each division, the community

[37:26] officers should be assigned to each division, the community

[37:27] officers should be assigned to each division, the community online reporting system, and

[37:28] each division, the community online reporting system, and

[37:28] each division, the community online reporting system, and knowing that over 200,000

[37:30] online reporting system, and knowing that over 200,000

[37:30] online reporting system, and knowing that over 200,000 reports, you know, have been

[37:31] knowing that over 200,000 reports, you know, have been

[37:32] knowing that over 200,000 reports, you know, have been taken, that's going to have a

[37:34] reports, you know, have been taken, that's going to have a

[37:34] reports, you know, have been taken, that's going to have a significant factor into it. If

[37:38] taken, that's going to have a significant factor into it. If

[37:38] taken, that's going to have a significant factor into it. If I'm at a division and we were

[37:40] significant factor into it. If I'm at a division and we were

[37:41] significant factor into it. If I'm at a division and we were taking 2000 reports for

[37:44] I'm at a division and we were taking 2000 reports for

[37:44] I'm at a division and we were taking 2000 reports for domestic violence in person,

[37:46] taking 2000 reports for domestic violence in person,

[37:46] taking 2000 reports for domestic violence in person, and now those are being taken

[37:47] domestic violence in person, and now those are being taken

[37:47] domestic violence in person, and now those are being taken online, and I shouldn't use

[37:49] and now those are being taken online, and I shouldn't use

[37:49] and now those are being taken online, and I shouldn't use domestic violence because those

[37:50] online, and I shouldn't use domestic violence because those

[37:50] online, and I shouldn't use domestic violence because those are in person. But a loud radio

[37:53] domestic violence because those are in person. But a loud radio

[37:53] domestic violence because those are in person. But a loud radio or a forgery. Then when we put

[37:56] are in person. But a loud radio or a forgery. Then when we put

[37:56] are in person. But a loud radio or a forgery. Then when we put those numbers into that

[37:58] or a forgery. Then when we put those numbers into that

[37:59] or a forgery. Then when we put those numbers into that mathematical equation, that

[38:00] those numbers into that mathematical equation, that

[38:00] those numbers into that mathematical equation, that division is going to have less

[38:03] mathematical equation, that division is going to have less

[38:03] mathematical equation, that division is going to have less time and show less radio calls,

[38:05] division is going to have less time and show less radio calls,

[38:06] division is going to have less time and show less radio calls, which means more proactive

[38:08] time and show less radio calls, which means more proactive

[38:08] time and show less radio calls, which means more proactive policing. But I think the chief

[38:10] which means more proactive policing. But I think the chief

[38:10] which means more proactive policing. But I think the chief covered it. But year to date,

[38:12] policing. But I think the chief covered it. But year to date,

[38:12] policing. But I think the chief covered it. But year to date, so far there's been 953 calls

[38:15] covered it. But year to date, so far there's been 953 calls

[38:15] covered it. But year to date, so far there's been 953 calls diverted. I don't have all 2520,

[38:17] so far there's been 953 calls diverted. I don't have all 2520,

[38:17] so far there's been 953 calls diverted. I don't have all 2520, 25, but so far just the year

[38:19] diverted. I don't have all 2520, 25, but so far just the year

[38:19] diverted. I don't have all 2520, 25, but so far just the year 953. So it's a significant

[38:20] 25, but so far just the year 953. So it's a significant

[38:21] 25, but so far just the year 953. So it's a significant workload is diverted. All right.

[38:26] 953. So it's a significant workload is diverted. All right.

[38:26] 953. So it's a significant workload is diverted. All right. I'd like to open this up to my

[38:28] workload is diverted. All right. I'd like to open this up to my

[38:28] workload is diverted. All right. I'd like to open this up to my colleagues for any questions.

[38:29] I'd like to open this up to my colleagues for any questions.

[38:29] I'd like to open this up to my colleagues for any questions. Councilmember. Council.

[38:33] colleagues for any questions. Councilmember. Council.

[38:33] colleagues for any questions. Councilmember. Council. Councilmember McCluskey. Oh,

[38:35] Councilmember. Council. Councilmember McCluskey. Oh,

[38:35] Councilmember. Council. Councilmember McCluskey. Oh, sure. Thank you. Thanks very

[38:37] Councilmember McCluskey. Oh, sure. Thank you. Thanks very

[38:37] Councilmember McCluskey. Oh, sure. Thank you. Thanks very much. Appreciate the report. Is

[38:40] sure. Thank you. Thanks very much. Appreciate the report. Is

[38:40] sure. Thank you. Thanks very much. Appreciate the report. Is there any intersection or

[38:42] much. Appreciate the report. Is there any intersection or

[38:42] much. Appreciate the report. Is there any intersection or relation of this report to the

[38:44] there any intersection or relation of this report to the

[38:44] there any intersection or relation of this report to the to the organizational

[38:45] relation of this report to the to the organizational

[38:45] relation of this report to the to the organizational assessment by Rand that is also

[38:48] to the organizational assessment by Rand that is also

[38:48] to the organizational assessment by Rand that is also pending? Do you know any

[38:50] assessment by Rand that is also pending? Do you know any

[38:50] assessment by Rand that is also pending? Do you know any overlap. And if we don't know

[38:52] pending? Do you know any overlap. And if we don't know

[38:52] pending? Do you know any overlap. And if we don't know now we just it's something to

[38:53] overlap. And if we don't know now we just it's something to

[38:54] overlap. And if we don't know now we just it's something to think about I I will get back

[38:56] now we just it's something to think about I I will get back

[38:56] now we just it's something to think about I I will get back to you sir okay okay. Thanks

[38:59] think about I I will get back to you sir okay okay. Thanks

[38:59] think about I I will get back to you sir okay okay. Thanks very much. Actually I was going

[39:03] to you sir okay okay. Thanks very much. Actually I was going

[39:03] to you sir okay okay. Thanks very much. Actually I was going to go down that path. So why

[39:04] very much. Actually I was going to go down that path. So why

[39:04] very much. Actually I was going to go down that path. So why don't I, why don't I defer to

[39:07] to go down that path. So why don't I, why don't I defer to

[39:07] to go down that path. So why don't I, why don't I defer to Councilmember Parker?

[39:08] don't I, why don't I defer to Councilmember Parker?

[39:08] don't I, why don't I defer to Councilmember Parker? Councilmember. Thank you,

[39:09] Councilmember Parker? Councilmember. Thank you,

[39:09] Councilmember Parker? Councilmember. Thank you, Mister Chair. On the. 7040 plan.

[39:16] Councilmember. Thank you, Mister Chair. On the. 7040 plan.

[39:16] Councilmember. Thank you, Mister Chair. On the. 7040 plan. What what how are we defining

[39:19] Mister Chair. On the. 7040 plan. What what how are we defining

[39:19] Mister Chair. On the. 7040 plan. What what how are we defining emergency calls that are to be

[39:22] What what how are we defining emergency calls that are to be

[39:22] What what how are we defining emergency calls that are to be responded to within seven

[39:24] emergency calls that are to be responded to within seven

[39:24] emergency calls that are to be responded to within seven minutes? What? Robbery in

[39:27] responded to within seven minutes? What? Robbery in

[39:27] responded to within seven minutes? What? Robbery in progress, shooting in progress.

[39:30] minutes? What? Robbery in progress, shooting in progress.

[39:30] minutes? What? Robbery in progress, shooting in progress. Any 911 emergency call. Well,

[39:34] progress, shooting in progress. Any 911 emergency call. Well,

[39:34] progress, shooting in progress. Any 911 emergency call. Well, lots 911 calls probably don't

[39:36] Any 911 emergency call. Well, lots 911 calls probably don't

[39:36] Any 911 emergency call. Well, lots 911 calls probably don't qualify as that term. So what,

[39:38] lots 911 calls probably don't qualify as that term. So what,

[39:38] lots 911 calls probably don't qualify as that term. So what, like a code three response a

[39:39] qualify as that term. So what, like a code three response a

[39:39] qualify as that term. So what, like a code three response a code three response. Code three

[39:41] like a code three response a code three response. Code three

[39:41] like a code three response a code three response. Code three response okay. This probably

[39:47] code three response. Code three response okay. This probably

[39:47] code three response. Code three response okay. This probably won't come as any surprise to

[39:48] response okay. This probably won't come as any surprise to

[39:48] response okay. This probably won't come as any surprise to you, but one of the main

[39:50] won't come as any surprise to you, but one of the main

[39:50] won't come as any surprise to you, but one of the main complaints that I hear often is

[39:53] you, but one of the main complaints that I hear often is

[39:53] you, but one of the main complaints that I hear often is slow response times. And it may

[39:55] complaints that I hear often is slow response times. And it may

[39:55] complaints that I hear often is slow response times. And it may just be a vocabulary issue

[39:57] slow response times. And it may just be a vocabulary issue

[39:57] slow response times. And it may just be a vocabulary issue because, you know, we talk

[39:59] just be a vocabulary issue because, you know, we talk

[39:59] just be a vocabulary issue because, you know, we talk about meeting response

[40:01] because, you know, we talk about meeting response

[40:01] because, you know, we talk about meeting response expectations at least when it's

[40:02] about meeting response expectations at least when it's

[40:03] about meeting response expectations at least when it's code three calls. But there's a

[40:06] expectations at least when it's code three calls. But there's a

[40:06] expectations at least when it's code three calls. But there's a huge universe outside of that

[40:09] code three calls. But there's a huge universe outside of that

[40:09] code three calls. But there's a huge universe outside of that where response times can be

[40:12] huge universe outside of that where response times can be

[40:12] huge universe outside of that where response times can be many, many hours or none at all.

[40:16] where response times can be many, many hours or none at all.

[40:16] where response times can be many, many hours or none at all. And so when we're thinking

[40:18] many, many hours or none at all. And so when we're thinking

[40:18] many, many hours or none at all. And so when we're thinking about the planning and the

[40:20] And so when we're thinking about the planning and the

[40:20] And so when we're thinking about the planning and the resources and how and where to

[40:22] about the planning and the resources and how and where to

[40:22] about the planning and the resources and how and where to allocate those, how does that

[40:25] resources and how and where to allocate those, how does that

[40:25] resources and how and where to allocate those, how does that other universe of call load

[40:28] allocate those, how does that other universe of call load

[40:28] allocate those, how does that other universe of call load factor into our staffing? So

[40:31] other universe of call load factor into our staffing? So

[40:31] other universe of call load factor into our staffing? So that's a great question. And

[40:33] factor into our staffing? So that's a great question. And

[40:33] factor into our staffing? So that's a great question. And and I with the seven minutes

[40:36] that's a great question. And and I with the seven minutes

[40:36] that's a great question. And and I with the seven minutes that includes the one minute

[40:38] and I with the seven minutes that includes the one minute

[40:38] and I with the seven minutes that includes the one minute that it takes the police

[40:39] that includes the one minute that it takes the police

[40:40] that includes the one minute that it takes the police service representative to pick

[40:41] that it takes the police service representative to pick

[40:41] that it takes the police service representative to pick up and answer the phone. And

[40:43] service representative to pick up and answer the phone. And

[40:43] service representative to pick up and answer the phone. And then that's 5 minutes or 2

[40:46] up and answer the phone. And then that's 5 minutes or 2

[40:46] up and answer the phone. And then that's 5 minutes or 2 minutes for dispatch and one

[40:48] then that's 5 minutes or 2 minutes for dispatch and one

[40:48] then that's 5 minutes or 2 minutes for dispatch and one minute, sorry. So one one

[40:50] minutes for dispatch and one minute, sorry. So one one

[40:50] minutes for dispatch and one minute, sorry. So one one minute to for the dispatcher to

[40:52] minute, sorry. So one one minute to for the dispatcher to

[40:52] minute, sorry. So one one minute to for the dispatcher to get the information, one minute

[40:54] minute to for the dispatcher to get the information, one minute

[40:54] minute to for the dispatcher to get the information, one minute to find a unit, five minutes to

[40:56] get the information, one minute to find a unit, five minutes to

[40:56] get the information, one minute to find a unit, five minutes to respond to the call. And so for

[40:58] to find a unit, five minutes to respond to the call. And so for

[40:58] to find a unit, five minutes to respond to the call. And so for the for the non coded calls, if

[41:01] respond to the call. And so for the for the non coded calls, if

[41:01] respond to the call. And so for the for the non coded calls, if I'm headed to a burglary

[41:04] the for the non coded calls, if I'm headed to a burglary

[41:04] the for the non coded calls, if I'm headed to a burglary investigation, but then a 911

[41:06] I'm headed to a burglary investigation, but then a 911

[41:06] I'm headed to a burglary investigation, but then a 911 call comes in, that burglary

[41:07] investigation, but then a 911 call comes in, that burglary

[41:07] investigation, but then a 911 call comes in, that burglary investigation is going to drop.

[41:09] call comes in, that burglary investigation is going to drop.

[41:09] call comes in, that burglary investigation is going to drop. And then I'm going to respond.

[41:10] investigation is going to drop. And then I'm going to respond.

[41:10] investigation is going to drop. And then I'm going to respond. So the officers are trying to

[41:13] And then I'm going to respond. So the officers are trying to

[41:13] And then I'm going to respond. So the officers are trying to prioritize their their call

[41:14] So the officers are trying to prioritize their their call

[41:14] So the officers are trying to prioritize their their call stack as they go. And our non

[41:18] prioritize their their call stack as they go. And our non

[41:18] prioritize their their call stack as they go. And our non coded calls I don't recall what

[41:19] stack as they go. And our non coded calls I don't recall what

[41:20] stack as they go. And our non coded calls I don't recall what is the average for a non coded

[41:21] coded calls I don't recall what is the average for a non coded

[41:21] coded calls I don't recall what is the average for a non coded now varies. It varies anywhere

[41:23] is the average for a non coded now varies. It varies anywhere

[41:23] is the average for a non coded now varies. It varies anywhere from. I don't want to but it

[41:28] now varies. It varies anywhere from. I don't want to but it

[41:28] now varies. It varies anywhere from. I don't want to but it varies. And to me what exactly

[41:30] from. I don't want to but it varies. And to me what exactly

[41:30] from. I don't want to but it varies. And to me what exactly what you're saying in that

[41:32] varies. And to me what exactly what you're saying in that

[41:32] varies. And to me what exactly what you're saying in that concern. So it's really hard

[41:33] what you're saying in that concern. So it's really hard

[41:34] what you're saying in that concern. So it's really hard for us to prioritize that. What

[41:36] concern. So it's really hard for us to prioritize that. What

[41:36] concern. So it's really hard for us to prioritize that. What we ask our field sergeants to

[41:37] for us to prioritize that. What we ask our field sergeants to

[41:37] for us to prioritize that. What we ask our field sergeants to do is as soon as that emergency

[41:40] we ask our field sergeants to do is as soon as that emergency

[41:40] we ask our field sergeants to do is as soon as that emergency call is done, ensure your

[41:42] do is as soon as that emergency call is done, ensure your

[41:42] do is as soon as that emergency call is done, ensure your monitoring and those officers

[41:43] call is done, ensure your monitoring and those officers

[41:43] call is done, ensure your monitoring and those officers are completing the rest of the

[41:45] monitoring and those officers are completing the rest of the

[41:45] monitoring and those officers are completing the rest of the calls in their stack. It's no

[41:47] are completing the rest of the calls in their stack. It's no

[41:47] are completing the rest of the calls in their stack. It's no secret that we're short police

[41:49] calls in their stack. It's no secret that we're short police

[41:49] calls in their stack. It's no secret that we're short police service representatives, and

[41:50] secret that we're short police service representatives, and

[41:50] secret that we're short police service representatives, and you're also hearing the

[41:51] service representatives, and you're also hearing the

[41:52] service representatives, and you're also hearing the community complain about the

[41:53] you're also hearing the community complain about the

[41:53] you're also hearing the community complain about the amount of time it's taking them

[41:55] community complain about the amount of time it's taking them

[41:55] community complain about the amount of time it's taking them to answer the phone to get to

[41:56] amount of time it's taking them to answer the phone to get to

[41:56] amount of time it's taking them to answer the phone to get to the non coded calls. And that

[41:58] to answer the phone to get to the non coded calls. And that

[41:58] to answer the phone to get to the non coded calls. And that also factors into the response

[42:00] the non coded calls. And that also factors into the response

[42:00] the non coded calls. And that also factors into the response time from the officers as well.

[42:02] also factors into the response time from the officers as well.

[42:02] also factors into the response time from the officers as well. Yeah. Well just when you have

[42:04] time from the officers as well. Yeah. Well just when you have

[42:04] time from the officers as well. Yeah. Well just when you have to leave a message at 911 that

[42:07] Yeah. Well just when you have to leave a message at 911 that

[42:07] Yeah. Well just when you have to leave a message at 911 that that is evidence of a system

[42:09] to leave a message at 911 that that is evidence of a system

[42:10] to leave a message at 911 that that is evidence of a system that cannot handle the current

[42:11] that is evidence of a system that cannot handle the current

[42:11] that is evidence of a system that cannot handle the current level of strain and demand. I'm

[42:13] that cannot handle the current level of strain and demand. I'm

[42:13] that cannot handle the current level of strain and demand. I'm actually surprised, pleasantly

[42:15] level of strain and demand. I'm actually surprised, pleasantly

[42:15] level of strain and demand. I'm actually surprised, pleasantly surprised to hear you say that

[42:17] actually surprised, pleasantly surprised to hear you say that

[42:17] actually surprised, pleasantly surprised to hear you say that we are actually meeting that

[42:18] surprised to hear you say that we are actually meeting that

[42:19] surprised to hear you say that we are actually meeting that seven minutes, because probably

[42:20] we are actually meeting that seven minutes, because probably

[42:20] we are actually meeting that seven minutes, because probably not surprising to anyone, I

[42:21] seven minutes, because probably not surprising to anyone, I

[42:21] seven minutes, because probably not surprising to anyone, I spent a lot of time with LAPD

[42:23] not surprising to anyone, I spent a lot of time with LAPD

[42:23] not surprising to anyone, I spent a lot of time with LAPD and. I will just share

[42:28] spent a lot of time with LAPD and. I will just share

[42:28] spent a lot of time with LAPD and. I will just share anecdotally, and I'm sure

[42:29] and. I will just share anecdotally, and I'm sure

[42:29] and. I will just share anecdotally, and I'm sure similar is true across

[42:31] anecdotally, and I'm sure similar is true across

[42:31] anecdotally, and I'm sure similar is true across divisions, but just use Pacific

[42:33] similar is true across divisions, but just use Pacific

[42:33] similar is true across divisions, but just use Pacific Division as an example. Under

[42:34] divisions, but just use Pacific Division as an example. Under

[42:34] divisions, but just use Pacific Division as an example. Under the basic car plan, you've got

[42:35] Division as an example. Under the basic car plan, you've got

[42:36] Division as an example. Under the basic car plan, you've got what, seven cars and then a

[42:37] the basic car plan, you've got what, seven cars and then a

[42:37] the basic car plan, you've got what, seven cars and then a supervisor occasionally in and

[42:38] what, seven cars and then a supervisor occasionally in and

[42:38] what, seven cars and then a supervisor occasionally in and out, depending on what they're

[42:39] supervisor occasionally in and out, depending on what they're

[42:39] supervisor occasionally in and out, depending on what they're doing and the geographic region.

[42:42] out, depending on what they're doing and the geographic region.

[42:42] out, depending on what they're doing and the geographic region. Well, it's for West L.A.

[42:43] doing and the geographic region. Well, it's for West L.A.

[42:43] doing and the geographic region. Well, it's for West L.A. Division two. It may have one

[42:45] Well, it's for West L.A. Division two. It may have one

[42:45] Well, it's for West L.A. Division two. It may have one of the largest geographic

[42:46] Division two. It may have one of the largest geographic

[42:46] Division two. It may have one of the largest geographic regions, so drive times are

[42:47] of the largest geographic regions, so drive times are

[42:47] of the largest geographic regions, so drive times are many, many miles. I mean, to

[42:49] regions, so drive times are many, many miles. I mean, to

[42:49] regions, so drive times are many, many miles. I mean, to get from West LA over to a call

[42:51] many, many miles. I mean, to get from West LA over to a call

[42:51] many, many miles. I mean, to get from West LA over to a call deep into the Palisades, you

[42:53] get from West LA over to a call deep into the Palisades, you

[42:53] get from West LA over to a call deep into the Palisades, you might be looking at a 40 50

[42:54] deep into the Palisades, you might be looking at a 40 50

[42:55] deep into the Palisades, you might be looking at a 40 50 minute commute time during

[42:57] might be looking at a 40 50 minute commute time during

[42:57] might be looking at a 40 50 minute commute time during traffic. And we all know we

[42:57] minute commute time during traffic. And we all know we

[42:57] minute commute time during traffic. And we all know we hardly ever have a car in the

[42:59] traffic. And we all know we hardly ever have a car in the

[42:59] traffic. And we all know we hardly ever have a car in the Palisades because they have to

[43:00] hardly ever have a car in the Palisades because they have to

[43:00] hardly ever have a car in the Palisades because they have to go where the calls are. That's

[43:02] Palisades because they have to go where the calls are. That's

[43:02] Palisades because they have to go where the calls are. That's West L.A. Division in Pacific.

[43:04] go where the calls are. That's West L.A. Division in Pacific.

[43:04] go where the calls are. That's West L.A. Division in Pacific. Same. Yeah, and Venice tends to

[43:07] West L.A. Division in Pacific. Same. Yeah, and Venice tends to

[43:07] West L.A. Division in Pacific. Same. Yeah, and Venice tends to suck up more of the resources

[43:08] Same. Yeah, and Venice tends to suck up more of the resources

[43:08] Same. Yeah, and Venice tends to suck up more of the resources than some of the surrounding

[43:10] suck up more of the resources than some of the surrounding

[43:10] suck up more of the resources than some of the surrounding neighborhoods. And so I just

[43:12] than some of the surrounding neighborhoods. And so I just

[43:13] than some of the surrounding neighborhoods. And so I just from what I'm hearing, it

[43:14] neighborhoods. And so I just from what I'm hearing, it

[43:14] neighborhoods. And so I just from what I'm hearing, it doesn't with the issues that I

[43:16] from what I'm hearing, it doesn't with the issues that I

[43:16] from what I'm hearing, it doesn't with the issues that I hear directly from our police

[43:18] doesn't with the issues that I hear directly from our police

[43:18] doesn't with the issues that I hear directly from our police officers in terms of their

[43:19] hear directly from our police officers in terms of their

[43:19] hear directly from our police officers in terms of their workload and what they're

[43:20] officers in terms of their workload and what they're

[43:20] officers in terms of their workload and what they're dealing with in the field, and

[43:22] workload and what they're dealing with in the field, and

[43:22] workload and what they're dealing with in the field, and what I'm hearing from

[43:23] dealing with in the field, and what I'm hearing from

[43:23] dealing with in the field, and what I'm hearing from constituents, which is just

[43:24] what I'm hearing from constituents, which is just

[43:24] what I'm hearing from constituents, which is just these really unacceptably long

[43:27] constituents, which is just these really unacceptably long

[43:27] constituents, which is just these really unacceptably long delays in getting back. And I

[43:29] these really unacceptably long delays in getting back. And I

[43:29] these really unacceptably long delays in getting back. And I understand the whys for it. But

[43:31] delays in getting back. And I understand the whys for it. But

[43:31] delays in getting back. And I understand the whys for it. But as we're thinking about the

[43:33] understand the whys for it. But as we're thinking about the

[43:33] understand the whys for it. But as we're thinking about the staffing plans and the patrol

[43:35] as we're thinking about the staffing plans and the patrol

[43:35] as we're thinking about the staffing plans and the patrol plans and the basic car plans,

[43:37] staffing plans and the patrol plans and the basic car plans,

[43:37] staffing plans and the patrol plans and the basic car plans, I'm just wondering especially

[43:38] plans and the basic car plans, I'm just wondering especially

[43:38] plans and the basic car plans, I'm just wondering especially if we're going to be studying

[43:40] I'm just wondering especially if we're going to be studying

[43:40] I'm just wondering especially if we're going to be studying this again, how do we account

[43:43] if we're going to be studying this again, how do we account

[43:44] if we're going to be studying this again, how do we account better for some of that? I, I

[43:46] this again, how do we account better for some of that? I, I

[43:46] this again, how do we account better for some of that? I, I hear you loud and clear, and

[43:48] better for some of that? I, I hear you loud and clear, and

[43:48] better for some of that? I, I hear you loud and clear, and we've been having a lot of

[43:50] hear you loud and clear, and we've been having a lot of

[43:50] hear you loud and clear, and we've been having a lot of discussions about that. And I,

[43:51] we've been having a lot of discussions about that. And I,

[43:51] we've been having a lot of discussions about that. And I, I think that and I know our

[43:54] discussions about that. And I, I think that and I know our

[43:54] discussions about that. And I, I think that and I know our chief has talked about it, you

[43:56] I think that and I know our chief has talked about it, you

[43:56] I think that and I know our chief has talked about it, you know, to the exhaustion is when

[43:58] chief has talked about it, you know, to the exhaustion is when

[43:58] chief has talked about it, you know, to the exhaustion is when you're down over 1500 police

[44:01] know, to the exhaustion is when you're down over 1500 police

[44:01] know, to the exhaustion is when you're down over 1500 police officers, you don't have those

[44:03] you're down over 1500 police officers, you don't have those

[44:03] you're down over 1500 police officers, you don't have those additional X cars, bicycle

[44:05] officers, you don't have those additional X cars, bicycle

[44:05] officers, you don't have those additional X cars, bicycle units, foot beats to help out

[44:07] additional X cars, bicycle units, foot beats to help out

[44:07] additional X cars, bicycle units, foot beats to help out and handle those calls. The

[44:09] units, foot beats to help out and handle those calls. The

[44:09] units, foot beats to help out and handle those calls. The numbers just don't add up. So

[44:12] and handle those calls. The numbers just don't add up. So

[44:12] and handle those calls. The numbers just don't add up. So you have officers that are

[44:13] numbers just don't add up. So you have officers that are

[44:13] numbers just don't add up. So you have officers that are saying they're exhausted. It's

[44:14] you have officers that are saying they're exhausted. It's

[44:14] you have officers that are saying they're exhausted. It's because they literally are

[44:16] saying they're exhausted. It's because they literally are

[44:16] saying they're exhausted. It's because they literally are stacking up that radio call and

[44:18] because they literally are stacking up that radio call and

[44:18] because they literally are stacking up that radio call and they're just going call to call

[44:20] stacking up that radio call and they're just going call to call

[44:20] stacking up that radio call and they're just going call to call to call to call to call. And we

[44:22] they're just going call to call to call to call to call. And we

[44:22] they're just going call to call to call to call to call. And we don't have that relief factor

[44:24] to call to call to call. And we don't have that relief factor

[44:24] to call to call to call. And we don't have that relief factor of an X car or a U-boat or an

[44:27] don't have that relief factor of an X car or a U-boat or an

[44:27] don't have that relief factor of an X car or a U-boat or an Elk car, sometimes not even a

[44:30] of an X car or a U-boat or an Elk car, sometimes not even a

[44:30] of an X car or a U-boat or an Elk car, sometimes not even a traffic unit. And so those

[44:31] Elk car, sometimes not even a traffic unit. And so those

[44:31] Elk car, sometimes not even a traffic unit. And so those additional 1500 officers matter

[44:34] traffic unit. And so those additional 1500 officers matter

[44:34] traffic unit. And so those additional 1500 officers matter when it comes to non coded

[44:36] additional 1500 officers matter when it comes to non coded

[44:36] additional 1500 officers matter when it comes to non coded calls, quality of life issues

[44:38] when it comes to non coded calls, quality of life issues

[44:39] when it comes to non coded calls, quality of life issues and all of the other, you know,

[44:40] calls, quality of life issues and all of the other, you know,

[44:40] calls, quality of life issues and all of the other, you know, public health public safety

[44:42] and all of the other, you know, public health public safety

[44:42] and all of the other, you know, public health public safety concerns in our city. Yeah.

[44:44] public health public safety concerns in our city. Yeah.

[44:44] public health public safety concerns in our city. Yeah. Because I will tell you I've

[44:46] concerns in our city. Yeah. Because I will tell you I've

[44:46] concerns in our city. Yeah. Because I will tell you I've anecdotally I've been in the

[44:47] Because I will tell you I've anecdotally I've been in the

[44:48] Because I will tell you I've anecdotally I've been in the car with LAPD driving around

[44:50] anecdotally I've been in the car with LAPD driving around

[44:50] anecdotally I've been in the car with LAPD driving around and we just roll. And I see it

[44:52] car with LAPD driving around and we just roll. And I see it

[44:52] car with LAPD driving around and we just roll. And I see it happen all the time. When I'm

[44:53] and we just roll. And I see it happen all the time. When I'm

[44:54] and we just roll. And I see it happen all the time. When I'm not in the car, they roll right

[44:55] happen all the time. When I'm not in the car, they roll right

[44:55] happen all the time. When I'm not in the car, they roll right by all the quality of life

[44:57] not in the car, they roll right by all the quality of life

[44:57] not in the car, they roll right by all the quality of life issues because they don't have

[44:58] by all the quality of life issues because they don't have

[44:58] by all the quality of life issues because they don't have 40% or 30% or any percent of

[45:00] issues because they don't have 40% or 30% or any percent of

[45:01] issues because they don't have 40% or 30% or any percent of their time to do any of that

[45:03] 40% or 30% or any percent of their time to do any of that

[45:03] 40% or 30% or any percent of their time to do any of that proactive policing. So I'm glad

[45:06] their time to do any of that proactive policing. So I'm glad

[45:06] their time to do any of that proactive policing. So I'm glad that the report says these

[45:07] proactive policing. So I'm glad that the report says these

[45:07] proactive policing. So I'm glad that the report says these numbers are being met. I'm just

[45:09] that the report says these numbers are being met. I'm just

[45:09] that the report says these numbers are being met. I'm just telling you anecdotally, it

[45:10] numbers are being met. I'm just telling you anecdotally, it

[45:10] numbers are being met. I'm just telling you anecdotally, it doesn't match up with my

[45:11] telling you anecdotally, it doesn't match up with my

[45:11] telling you anecdotally, it doesn't match up with my personal experience, what I'm

[45:12] doesn't match up with my personal experience, what I'm

[45:12] doesn't match up with my personal experience, what I'm being told or what I've

[45:14] personal experience, what I'm being told or what I've

[45:14] personal experience, what I'm being told or what I've observed. So I just offer that

[45:16] being told or what I've observed. So I just offer that

[45:16] being told or what I've observed. So I just offer that as context and really as a plug

[45:18] observed. So I just offer that as context and really as a plug

[45:18] observed. So I just offer that as context and really as a plug for you. We need more bodies.

[45:20] as context and really as a plug for you. We need more bodies.

[45:20] as context and really as a plug for you. We need more bodies. Yes, and I will also share with

[45:22] for you. We need more bodies. Yes, and I will also share with

[45:23] for you. We need more bodies. Yes, and I will also share with you. I have spent time recently

[45:24] Yes, and I will also share with you. I have spent time recently

[45:24] Yes, and I will also share with you. I have spent time recently in both of my divisions, and

[45:25] you. I have spent time recently in both of my divisions, and

[45:25] you. I have spent time recently in both of my divisions, and one of the biggest complaints

[45:26] in both of my divisions, and one of the biggest complaints

[45:26] in both of my divisions, and one of the biggest complaints that I am hearing from officers

[45:29] one of the biggest complaints that I am hearing from officers

[45:29] one of the biggest complaints that I am hearing from officers is the desk work. I mean, you

[45:31] that I am hearing from officers is the desk work. I mean, you

[45:31] that I am hearing from officers is the desk work. I mean, you have got sworn officers sitting

[45:33] is the desk work. I mean, you have got sworn officers sitting

[45:33] is the desk work. I mean, you have got sworn officers sitting there doing things that

[45:35] have got sworn officers sitting there doing things that

[45:35] have got sworn officers sitting there doing things that civilian admin employees can,

[45:39] there doing things that civilian admin employees can,

[45:39] there doing things that civilian admin employees can, should and ought to be doing.

[45:40] civilian admin employees can, should and ought to be doing.

[45:40] civilian admin employees can, should and ought to be doing. And I understand these officers

[45:42] should and ought to be doing. And I understand these officers

[45:42] should and ought to be doing. And I understand these officers have taken on those duties

[45:44] And I understand these officers have taken on those duties

[45:44] And I understand these officers have taken on those duties because we've eliminated so

[45:45] have taken on those duties because we've eliminated so

[45:45] have taken on those duties because we've eliminated so much of the civilian personnel.

[45:47] because we've eliminated so much of the civilian personnel.

[45:47] because we've eliminated so much of the civilian personnel. So we're just compounding our

[45:48] much of the civilian personnel. So we're just compounding our

[45:48] much of the civilian personnel. So we're just compounding our own problems. But I say that as

[45:51] So we're just compounding our own problems. But I say that as

[45:51] So we're just compounding our own problems. But I say that as a way to set the table heading

[45:52] own problems. But I say that as a way to set the table heading

[45:53] own problems. But I say that as a way to set the table heading into our next budget cycle, and

[45:54] a way to set the table heading into our next budget cycle, and

[45:54] a way to set the table heading into our next budget cycle, and your planning around staffing,

[45:57] into our next budget cycle, and your planning around staffing,

[45:57] into our next budget cycle, and your planning around staffing, that, I don't know how we're

[45:59] your planning around staffing, that, I don't know how we're

[45:59] your planning around staffing, that, I don't know how we're actually going to get us where

[46:01] that, I don't know how we're actually going to get us where

[46:01] that, I don't know how we're actually going to get us where we need to be unless we also

[46:03] actually going to get us where we need to be unless we also

[46:03] actually going to get us where we need to be unless we also start looking at some

[46:05] we need to be unless we also start looking at some

[46:05] we need to be unless we also start looking at some reconfigurations and where and

[46:06] start looking at some reconfigurations and where and

[46:06] start looking at some reconfigurations and where and how we're using our bodies that

[46:07] reconfigurations and where and how we're using our bodies that

[46:07] reconfigurations and where and how we're using our bodies that we do have. Absolutely. That

[46:10] how we're using our bodies that we do have. Absolutely. That

[46:10] how we're using our bodies that we do have. Absolutely. That was it. Thank you, Mister chair.

[46:12] we do have. Absolutely. That was it. Thank you, Mister chair.

[46:13] we do have. Absolutely. That was it. Thank you, Mister chair. Senator Martinez. Yes. Thank

[46:14] was it. Thank you, Mister chair. Senator Martinez. Yes. Thank

[46:14] was it. Thank you, Mister chair. Senator Martinez. Yes. Thank you so much, Mister Chair.

[46:15] Senator Martinez. Yes. Thank you so much, Mister Chair.

[46:15] Senator Martinez. Yes. Thank you so much, Mister Chair. Thank you so much for this

[46:16] you so much, Mister Chair. Thank you so much for this

[46:16] you so much, Mister Chair. Thank you so much for this report. It's really

[46:20] Thank you so much for this report. It's really

[46:20] Thank you so much for this report. It's really illuminating to see the work

[46:21] report. It's really illuminating to see the work

[46:22] report. It's really illuminating to see the work that our police officers do.

[46:24] illuminating to see the work that our police officers do.

[46:24] illuminating to see the work that our police officers do. And I'm happy to hear that. You

[46:26] that our police officers do. And I'm happy to hear that. You

[46:26] that our police officers do. And I'm happy to hear that. You know, the seven minute response

[46:27] And I'm happy to hear that. You know, the seven minute response

[46:27] And I'm happy to hear that. You know, the seven minute response time is happening. Obviously,

[46:30] know, the seven minute response time is happening. Obviously,

[46:30] know, the seven minute response time is happening. Obviously, the non-coated. Cause, I mean,

[46:33] time is happening. Obviously, the non-coated. Cause, I mean,

[46:33] time is happening. Obviously, the non-coated. Cause, I mean, that's the complaints we get,

[46:34] the non-coated. Cause, I mean, that's the complaints we get,

[46:35] the non-coated. Cause, I mean, that's the complaints we get, right? It's like something they,

[46:36] that's the complaints we get, right? It's like something they,

[46:36] that's the complaints we get, right? It's like something they, our constituents, experience,

[46:38] right? It's like something they, our constituents, experience,

[46:38] right? It's like something they, our constituents, experience, something legitimately

[46:39] our constituents, experience, something legitimately

[46:40] our constituents, experience, something legitimately traumatic, but it's not urgent.

[46:42] something legitimately traumatic, but it's not urgent.

[46:43] something legitimately traumatic, but it's not urgent. It's not violent. And so, you

[46:45] traumatic, but it's not urgent. It's not violent. And so, you

[46:45] traumatic, but it's not urgent. It's not violent. And so, you know, police officers tell me

[46:46] It's not violent. And so, you know, police officers tell me

[46:46] It's not violent. And so, you know, police officers tell me all the time like I'll get to

[46:48] know, police officers tell me all the time like I'll get to

[46:48] know, police officers tell me all the time like I'll get to it when I get to it. Sometimes

[46:50] all the time like I'll get to it when I get to it. Sometimes

[46:50] all the time like I'll get to it when I get to it. Sometimes they don't get to it the next

[46:52] it when I get to it. Sometimes they don't get to it the next

[46:52] it when I get to it. Sometimes they don't get to it the next day. You know, they pass it on

[46:53] they don't get to it the next day. You know, they pass it on

[46:53] they don't get to it the next day. You know, they pass it on to the other folks. So which I

[46:55] day. You know, they pass it on to the other folks. So which I

[46:55] day. You know, they pass it on to the other folks. So which I really want to emphasize, like,

[46:56] to the other folks. So which I really want to emphasize, like,

[46:56] to the other folks. So which I really want to emphasize, like, that's why we need to expand

[46:58] really want to emphasize, like, that's why we need to expand

[46:58] really want to emphasize, like, that's why we need to expand the unarmed model of crisis

[46:59] that's why we need to expand the unarmed model of crisis

[46:59] that's why we need to expand the unarmed model of crisis response. It's much more

[47:01] the unarmed model of crisis response. It's much more

[47:01] the unarmed model of crisis response. It's much more effective. It's it takes these

[47:03] response. It's much more effective. It's it takes these

[47:03] response. It's much more effective. It's it takes these calls off of police officers.

[47:06] effective. It's it takes these calls off of police officers.

[47:06] effective. It's it takes these calls off of police officers. It's cheaper for taxpayers, you

[47:09] calls off of police officers. It's cheaper for taxpayers, you

[47:09] calls off of police officers. It's cheaper for taxpayers, you know, like we need to give them

[47:10] It's cheaper for taxpayers, you know, like we need to give them

[47:10] It's cheaper for taxpayers, you know, like we need to give them as many calls as possible so

[47:12] know, like we need to give them as many calls as possible so

[47:12] know, like we need to give them as many calls as possible so that our officers can focus on

[47:14] as many calls as possible so that our officers can focus on

[47:14] as many calls as possible so that our officers can focus on the really, truly urgent things.

[47:16] that our officers can focus on the really, truly urgent things.

[47:16] that our officers can focus on the really, truly urgent things. But but I'm glad that

[47:18] the really, truly urgent things. But but I'm glad that

[47:18] the really, truly urgent things. But but I'm glad that nevertheless, they're still

[47:19] But but I'm glad that nevertheless, they're still

[47:19] But but I'm glad that nevertheless, they're still responding within seven minutes.

[47:21] nevertheless, they're still responding within seven minutes.

[47:21] nevertheless, they're still responding within seven minutes. You mentioned a little bit

[47:22] responding within seven minutes. You mentioned a little bit

[47:22] responding within seven minutes. You mentioned a little bit earlier about having to do an

[47:25] You mentioned a little bit earlier about having to do an

[47:25] You mentioned a little bit earlier about having to do an RFP. Sorry, I was a little

[47:27] earlier about having to do an RFP. Sorry, I was a little

[47:27] earlier about having to do an RFP. Sorry, I was a little confusing. Is that to to draw

[47:28] RFP. Sorry, I was a little confusing. Is that to to draw

[47:29] RFP. Sorry, I was a little confusing. Is that to to draw the division lines or what was

[47:31] confusing. Is that to to draw the division lines or what was

[47:31] confusing. Is that to to draw the division lines or what was RFP for? Sorry, I was a little

[47:33] the division lines or what was RFP for? Sorry, I was a little

[47:33] the division lines or what was RFP for? Sorry, I was a little confused. That would be to

[47:35] RFP for? Sorry, I was a little confused. That would be to

[47:35] RFP for? Sorry, I was a little confused. That would be to actually have a study done of

[47:37] confused. That would be to actually have a study done of

[47:37] confused. That would be to actually have a study done of the basic Enforcement uh plan

[47:39] actually have a study done of the basic Enforcement uh plan

[47:39] actually have a study done of the basic Enforcement uh plan and get recommendations from

[47:41] the basic Enforcement uh plan and get recommendations from

[47:41] the basic Enforcement uh plan and get recommendations from whatever company that was hired

[47:44] and get recommendations from whatever company that was hired

[47:44] and get recommendations from whatever company that was hired to do that study or do that

[47:46] whatever company that was hired to do that study or do that

[47:46] whatever company that was hired to do that study or do that plan. And that plan would be to

[47:48] to do that study or do that plan. And that plan would be to

[47:48] to do that study or do that plan. And that plan would be to determine how many cars are per

[47:50] plan. And that plan would be to determine how many cars are per

[47:50] plan. And that plan would be to determine how many cars are per division. Or is that is that

[47:52] determine how many cars are per division. Or is that is that

[47:52] determine how many cars are per division. Or is that is that what it's for? Yes. So

[47:54] division. Or is that is that what it's for? Yes. So

[47:54] division. Or is that is that what it's for? Yes. So currently they are at the 168.

[47:56] what it's for? Yes. So currently they are at the 168.

[47:56] what it's for? Yes. So currently they are at the 168. For example, central has six

[47:58] currently they are at the 168. For example, central has six

[47:58] currently they are at the 168. For example, central has six basic cars. Central is one of

[48:00] For example, central has six basic cars. Central is one of

[48:00] For example, central has six basic cars. Central is one of the busiest call load divisions.

[48:01] basic cars. Central is one of the busiest call load divisions.

[48:01] basic cars. Central is one of the busiest call load divisions. They could potentially need

[48:03] the busiest call load divisions. They could potentially need

[48:03] the busiest call load divisions. They could potentially need additional eight cars. So they

[48:05] They could potentially need additional eight cars. So they

[48:05] They could potentially need additional eight cars. So they do have more than six senior

[48:07] additional eight cars. So they do have more than six senior

[48:07] additional eight cars. So they do have more than six senior lead officers that have been

[48:08] do have more than six senior lead officers that have been

[48:08] do have more than six senior lead officers that have been taken. We have eight senior

[48:10] lead officers that have been taken. We have eight senior

[48:10] lead officers that have been taken. We have eight senior lead officers to help out with

[48:11] taken. We have eight senior lead officers to help out with

[48:11] taken. We have eight senior lead officers to help out with that. But so that could be an

[48:14] lead officers to help out with that. But so that could be an

[48:14] lead officers to help out with that. But so that could be an aspect. But the patrol plan is

[48:15] that. But so that could be an aspect. But the patrol plan is

[48:15] that. But so that could be an aspect. But the patrol plan is something different. We don't

[48:17] aspect. But the patrol plan is something different. We don't

[48:17] aspect. But the patrol plan is something different. We don't just staff them enough for the

[48:18] something different. We don't just staff them enough for the

[48:19] something different. We don't just staff them enough for the six basic eight cars. Their

[48:20] just staff them enough for the six basic eight cars. Their

[48:20] just staff them enough for the six basic eight cars. Their staff are having eight cars

[48:21] six basic eight cars. Their staff are having eight cars

[48:21] six basic eight cars. Their staff are having eight cars that needed to meet the demand

[48:22] staff are having eight cars that needed to meet the demand

[48:23] staff are having eight cars that needed to meet the demand in central any given shift. So.

[48:25] that needed to meet the demand in central any given shift. So.

[48:25] that needed to meet the demand in central any given shift. So. But the basic a car part is

[48:27] in central any given shift. So. But the basic a car part is

[48:27] in central any given shift. So. But the basic a car part is just do a study on each

[48:29] But the basic a car part is just do a study on each

[48:29] But the basic a car part is just do a study on each division, the size of division

[48:30] just do a study on each division, the size of division

[48:30] just do a study on each division, the size of division where the location is, maybe

[48:31] division, the size of division where the location is, maybe

[48:32] division, the size of division where the location is, maybe add take away, and then with

[48:33] where the location is, maybe add take away, and then with

[48:33] where the location is, maybe add take away, and then with that, once they come up with

[48:34] add take away, and then with that, once they come up with

[48:34] add take away, and then with that, once they come up with once whoever does it comes out

[48:36] that, once they come up with once whoever does it comes out

[48:36] that, once they come up with once whoever does it comes out with the number of say, central

[48:37] once whoever does it comes out with the number of say, central

[48:38] once whoever does it comes out with the number of say, central needs 12, then we'd have to add

[48:39] with the number of say, central needs 12, then we'd have to add

[48:39] with the number of say, central needs 12, then we'd have to add whatever additional senior lead

[48:40] needs 12, then we'd have to add whatever additional senior lead

[48:40] needs 12, then we'd have to add whatever additional senior lead officers and other community

[48:42] whatever additional senior lead officers and other community

[48:42] whatever additional senior lead officers and other community relations officers that would

[48:43] officers and other community relations officers that would

[48:43] officers and other community relations officers that would meet that that need. And when's

[48:45] relations officers that would meet that that need. And when's

[48:45] relations officers that would meet that that need. And when's the last time that report was

[48:47] meet that that need. And when's the last time that report was

[48:47] meet that that need. And when's the last time that report was done? You said there was a this

[48:49] the last time that report was done? You said there was a this

[48:49] the last time that report was done? You said there was a this process was done in was it a. A

[48:56] done? You said there was a this process was done in was it a. A

[48:56] done? You said there was a this process was done in was it a. A finalized draft was done in 20

[49:01] process was done in was it a. A finalized draft was done in 20

[49:01] process was done in was it a. A finalized draft was done in 20 2021, but due to Covid and

[49:07] finalized draft was done in 20 2021, but due to Covid and

[49:07] finalized draft was done in 20 2021, but due to Covid and everything else that was going

[49:08] 2021, but due to Covid and everything else that was going

[49:08] 2021, but due to Covid and everything else that was going on at the time, it wasn't

[49:10] everything else that was going on at the time, it wasn't

[49:10] everything else that was going on at the time, it wasn't implemented. And between now

[49:11] on at the time, it wasn't implemented. And between now

[49:11] on at the time, it wasn't implemented. And between now and then, the time has become

[49:15] implemented. And between now and then, the time has become

[49:15] implemented. And between now and then, the time has become someone has arrived. Do you

[49:17] and then, the time has become someone has arrived. Do you

[49:17] and then, the time has become someone has arrived. Do you want to elaborate on this? Yes.

[49:20] someone has arrived. Do you want to elaborate on this? Yes.

[49:20] someone has arrived. Do you want to elaborate on this? Yes. Thanks. Ed Rose with the CIO's

[49:22] want to elaborate on this? Yes. Thanks. Ed Rose with the CIO's

[49:22] want to elaborate on this? Yes. Thanks. Ed Rose with the CIO's office. We engaged matrix back

[49:24] Thanks. Ed Rose with the CIO's office. We engaged matrix back

[49:25] Thanks. Ed Rose with the CIO's office. We engaged matrix back in 2018, September 2018, to do

[49:28] office. We engaged matrix back in 2018, September 2018, to do

[49:28] office. We engaged matrix back in 2018, September 2018, to do basically the basic car study.

[49:30] in 2018, September 2018, to do basically the basic car study.

[49:30] in 2018, September 2018, to do basically the basic car study. And back then they did, as LAPD

[49:35] basically the basic car study. And back then they did, as LAPD

[49:35] basically the basic car study. And back then they did, as LAPD reported, they crunched the

[49:37] And back then they did, as LAPD reported, they crunched the

[49:37] And back then they did, as LAPD reported, they crunched the numbers. It looked at the

[49:38] reported, they crunched the numbers. It looked at the

[49:38] reported, they crunched the numbers. It looked at the algorithms based on head counts,

[49:40] numbers. It looked at the algorithms based on head counts,

[49:40] numbers. It looked at the algorithms based on head counts, topography, call loads, things

[49:41] algorithms based on head counts, topography, call loads, things

[49:41] algorithms based on head counts, topography, call loads, things of that nature. I think that's

[49:43] topography, call loads, things of that nature. I think that's

[49:43] topography, call loads, things of that nature. I think that's what we want to replicate now,

[49:45] of that nature. I think that's what we want to replicate now,

[49:45] of that nature. I think that's what we want to replicate now, at least to do a refresh,

[49:46] what we want to replicate now, at least to do a refresh,

[49:46] what we want to replicate now, at least to do a refresh, because what we did back then,

[49:48] at least to do a refresh, because what we did back then,

[49:48] at least to do a refresh, because what we did back then, it was based on head count of

[49:50] because what we did back then, it was based on head count of

[49:50] because what we did back then, it was based on head count of about 10,040. You know, we've

[49:52] it was based on head count of about 10,040. You know, we've

[49:53] it was based on head count of about 10,040. You know, we've we've gone down significantly

[49:55] about 10,040. You know, we've we've gone down significantly

[49:55] about 10,040. You know, we've we've gone down significantly to about 8700 right now. So I

[49:59] we've gone down significantly to about 8700 right now. So I

[49:59] we've gone down significantly to about 8700 right now. So I think it would be beneficial to

[50:00] to about 8700 right now. So I think it would be beneficial to

[50:00] to about 8700 right now. So I think it would be beneficial to do a refresh based on fresh

[50:02] think it would be beneficial to do a refresh based on fresh

[50:02] think it would be beneficial to do a refresh based on fresh data. And even when we released

[50:03] do a refresh based on fresh data. And even when we released

[50:04] do a refresh based on fresh data. And even when we released our report back in 2021, it was

[50:06] data. And even when we released our report back in 2021, it was

[50:06] data. And even when we released our report back in 2021, it was based on 2018 data. So it was

[50:09] our report back in 2021, it was based on 2018 data. So it was

[50:09] our report back in 2021, it was based on 2018 data. So it was kind of old at that point too.

[50:11] based on 2018 data. So it was kind of old at that point too.

[50:11] based on 2018 data. So it was kind of old at that point too. And the pandemic got in the way

[50:12] kind of old at that point too. And the pandemic got in the way

[50:12] kind of old at that point too. And the pandemic got in the way and it kind of got, you know,

[50:14] And the pandemic got in the way and it kind of got, you know,

[50:14] And the pandemic got in the way and it kind of got, you know, extended out. So we issued an

[50:16] and it kind of got, you know, extended out. So we issued an

[50:16] and it kind of got, you know, extended out. So we issued an RFP or some Action Council

[50:18] extended out. So we issued an RFP or some Action Council

[50:18] extended out. So we issued an RFP or some Action Council action in 2018. Put it out to

[50:19] RFP or some Action Council action in 2018. Put it out to

[50:20] RFP or some Action Council action in 2018. Put it out to RFP. We got it back. 2021 COVID

[50:21] action in 2018. Put it out to RFP. We got it back. 2021 COVID

[50:21] action in 2018. Put it out to RFP. We got it back. 2021 COVID like the data is messed up now

[50:23] RFP. We got it back. 2021 COVID like the data is messed up now

[50:23] RFP. We got it back. 2021 COVID like the data is messed up now we're in 2026 okay. So what

[50:27] like the data is messed up now we're in 2026 okay. So what

[50:27] like the data is messed up now we're in 2026 okay. So what what? So what are we basing it

[50:31] we're in 2026 okay. So what what? So what are we basing it

[50:31] we're in 2026 okay. So what what? So what are we basing it on if it's not on the 2021

[50:33] what? So what are we basing it on if it's not on the 2021

[50:33] what? So what are we basing it on if it's not on the 2021 study? Do you I think we're

[50:36] on if it's not on the 2021 study? Do you I think we're

[50:37] on if it's not on the 2021 study? Do you I think we're talking two different things

[50:38] study? Do you I think we're talking two different things

[50:38] study? Do you I think we're talking two different things the patrol plan and the basic a

[50:40] talking two different things the patrol plan and the basic a

[50:40] talking two different things the patrol plan and the basic a car. They're two totally

[50:42] the patrol plan and the basic a car. They're two totally

[50:42] the patrol plan and the basic a car. They're two totally separate things. So the the ask

[50:45] car. They're two totally separate things. So the the ask

[50:45] car. They're two totally separate things. So the the ask from the mayor's budget was for

[50:47] separate things. So the the ask from the mayor's budget was for

[50:47] separate things. So the the ask from the mayor's budget was for LAPD to do both to look at the

[50:50] from the mayor's budget was for LAPD to do both to look at the

[50:50] from the mayor's budget was for LAPD to do both to look at the basic car plan and, and see if

[50:53] LAPD to do both to look at the basic car plan and, and see if

[50:53] LAPD to do both to look at the basic car plan and, and see if there's a potential to have the

[50:54] basic car plan and, and see if there's a potential to have the

[50:54] basic car plan and, and see if there's a potential to have the basic eight cars revised, and

[50:56] there's a potential to have the basic eight cars revised, and

[50:56] there's a potential to have the basic eight cars revised, and to also look at our patrol plan

[50:59] basic eight cars revised, and to also look at our patrol plan

[50:59] basic eight cars revised, and to also look at our patrol plan to see if there could be any

[51:01] to also look at our patrol plan to see if there could be any

[51:01] to also look at our patrol plan to see if there could be any revised in that we were able to

[51:03] to see if there could be any revised in that we were able to

[51:03] to see if there could be any revised in that we were able to look at our patrol plan, which

[51:06] revised in that we were able to look at our patrol plan, which

[51:06] revised in that we were able to look at our patrol plan, which normally we would change and

[51:08] look at our patrol plan, which normally we would change and

[51:08] look at our patrol plan, which normally we would change and look at and revise every

[51:10] normally we would change and look at and revise every

[51:10] normally we would change and look at and revise every quarter. We hadn't done that

[51:12] look at and revise every quarter. We hadn't done that

[51:12] look at and revise every quarter. We hadn't done that since 2023. So we just recently

[51:17] quarter. We hadn't done that since 2023. So we just recently

[51:17] quarter. We hadn't done that since 2023. So we just recently revised our patrol plan and got

[51:19] since 2023. So we just recently revised our patrol plan and got

[51:19] since 2023. So we just recently revised our patrol plan and got new numbers and have

[51:21] revised our patrol plan and got new numbers and have

[51:21] revised our patrol plan and got new numbers and have implemented those numbers that

[51:22] new numbers and have implemented those numbers that

[51:22] new numbers and have implemented those numbers that have our minimums, our 100

[51:25] implemented those numbers that have our minimums, our 100

[51:25] implemented those numbers that have our minimums, our 100 patrol plan, and that we were

[51:27] have our minimums, our 100 patrol plan, and that we were

[51:27] have our minimums, our 100 patrol plan, and that we were able to do internally. The

[51:30] patrol plan, and that we were able to do internally. The

[51:30] patrol plan, and that we were able to do internally. The basic a car would require an

[51:32] able to do internally. The basic a car would require an

[51:32] able to do internally. The basic a car would require an in-depth study like matrix did.

[51:34] basic a car would require an in-depth study like matrix did.

[51:34] basic a car would require an in-depth study like matrix did. It was a council motion for

[51:35] in-depth study like matrix did. It was a council motion for

[51:35] in-depth study like matrix did. It was a council motion for Mike Bonin in 2017, and the

[51:39] It was a council motion for Mike Bonin in 2017, and the

[51:39] It was a council motion for Mike Bonin in 2017, and the study was in 2018. We got that

[51:41] Mike Bonin in 2017, and the study was in 2018. We got that

[51:41] Mike Bonin in 2017, and the study was in 2018. We got that information back in 2021. COVID

[51:44] study was in 2018. We got that information back in 2021. COVID

[51:44] study was in 2018. We got that information back in 2021. COVID we had civil unrest and now

[51:47] information back in 2021. COVID we had civil unrest and now

[51:47] information back in 2021. COVID we had civil unrest and now we're, you know, a couple

[51:49] we had civil unrest and now we're, you know, a couple

[51:49] we had civil unrest and now we're, you know, a couple thousand officers down and it

[51:50] we're, you know, a couple thousand officers down and it

[51:50] we're, you know, a couple thousand officers down and it would need to be done again. So

[51:52] thousand officers down and it would need to be done again. So

[51:52] thousand officers down and it would need to be done again. So we never implemented that one.

[51:54] would need to be done again. So we never implemented that one.

[51:54] would need to be done again. So we never implemented that one. We never implemented. So I

[51:55] we never implemented that one. We never implemented. So I

[51:55] we never implemented that one. We never implemented. So I guess that's my question. So

[51:56] We never implemented. So I guess that's my question. So

[51:56] We never implemented. So I guess that's my question. So what are we implementing right

[51:58] guess that's my question. So what are we implementing right

[51:58] guess that's my question. So what are we implementing right now and when of what year was

[51:59] what are we implementing right now and when of what year was

[52:00] what are we implementing right now and when of what year was that done. When was the when

[52:02] now and when of what year was that done. When was the when

[52:02] now and when of what year was that done. When was the when was when was 1988 okay. So no

[52:05] that done. When was the when was when was 1988 okay. So no

[52:05] that done. When was the when was when was 1988 okay. So no no that's patrol plan for okay.

[52:07] was when was 1988 okay. So no no that's patrol plan for okay.

[52:07] was when was 1988 okay. So no no that's patrol plan for okay. Sorry. So I just want to be

[52:09] no that's patrol plan for okay. Sorry. So I just want to be

[52:09] no that's patrol plan for okay. Sorry. So I just want to be clear the last time, what we

[52:11] Sorry. So I just want to be clear the last time, what we

[52:11] Sorry. So I just want to be clear the last time, what we are using now is a 1988 basic

[52:13] clear the last time, what we are using now is a 1988 basic

[52:14] clear the last time, what we are using now is a 1988 basic car study for deployment. No,

[52:16] are using now is a 1988 basic car study for deployment. No,

[52:16] are using now is a 1988 basic car study for deployment. No, no okay. I don't have the year

[52:19] car study for deployment. No, no okay. I don't have the year

[52:19] car study for deployment. No, no okay. I don't have the year for that exact. It was 97. 98

[52:22] no okay. I don't have the year for that exact. It was 97. 98

[52:22] no okay. I don't have the year for that exact. It was 97. 98 is the last change to the

[52:24] for that exact. It was 97. 98 is the last change to the

[52:24] for that exact. It was 97. 98 is the last change to the amount of basic eight cars.

[52:25] is the last change to the amount of basic eight cars.

[52:25] is the last change to the amount of basic eight cars. Okay, okay. So it's been a

[52:27] amount of basic eight cars. Okay, okay. So it's been a

[52:27] amount of basic eight cars. Okay, okay. So it's been a while. Do we have a plan to do

[52:29] Okay, okay. So it's been a while. Do we have a plan to do

[52:29] Okay, okay. So it's been a while. Do we have a plan to do that. Do we have a plan to do

[52:31] while. Do we have a plan to do that. Do we have a plan to do

[52:31] while. Do we have a plan to do that. Do we have a plan to do that now. No. How much money

[52:33] that. Do we have a plan to do that now. No. How much money

[52:33] that. Do we have a plan to do that now. No. How much money would that take anyways. We can

[52:36] that now. No. How much money would that take anyways. We can

[52:36] that now. No. How much money would that take anyways. We can answer this later. But but it

[52:37] would that take anyways. We can answer this later. But but it

[52:37] would that take anyways. We can answer this later. But but it needs to be done okay. And page

[52:42] answer this later. But but it needs to be done okay. And page

[52:42] answer this later. But but it needs to be done okay. And page six here it's you're sort of

[52:45] needs to be done okay. And page six here it's you're sort of

[52:46] needs to be done okay. And page six here it's you're sort of this is the patrol plan. This

[52:47] six here it's you're sort of this is the patrol plan. This

[52:47] six here it's you're sort of this is the patrol plan. This is not the basic car plan. The

[52:49] this is the patrol plan. This is not the basic car plan. The

[52:49] this is the patrol plan. This is not the basic car plan. The patrol plan. You have negatives

[52:52] is not the basic car plan. The patrol plan. You have negatives

[52:52] is not the basic car plan. The patrol plan. You have negatives and surpluses. Yes. So I know

[52:55] patrol plan. You have negatives and surpluses. Yes. So I know

[52:55] patrol plan. You have negatives and surpluses. Yes. So I know that's the patrol plan. I got

[52:57] and surpluses. Yes. So I know that's the patrol plan. I got

[52:57] and surpluses. Yes. So I know that's the patrol plan. I got that, but it shows some have

[53:00] that's the patrol plan. I got that, but it shows some have

[53:00] that's the patrol plan. I got that, but it shows some have pretty big surpluses. Centro

[53:03] that, but it shows some have pretty big surpluses. Centro

[53:03] that, but it shows some have pretty big surpluses. Centro has 32, Hollenbeck 27.

[53:07] pretty big surpluses. Centro has 32, Hollenbeck 27.

[53:08] pretty big surpluses. Centro has 32, Hollenbeck 27. Shouldn't that be ideally zero

[53:10] has 32, Hollenbeck 27. Shouldn't that be ideally zero

[53:11] has 32, Hollenbeck 27. Shouldn't that be ideally zero or so? So. And I want to make

[53:14] Shouldn't that be ideally zero or so? So. And I want to make

[53:14] Shouldn't that be ideally zero or so? So. And I want to make it clear the surplus is an

[53:15] or so? So. And I want to make it clear the surplus is an

[53:15] or so? So. And I want to make it clear the surplus is an extra. This is just a an X cars.

[53:18] it clear the surplus is an extra. This is just a an X cars.

[53:18] it clear the surplus is an extra. This is just a an X cars. It doesn't include gang units,

[53:20] extra. This is just a an X cars. It doesn't include gang units,

[53:21] extra. This is just a an X cars. It doesn't include gang units, vice units, narcotics units.

[53:23] It doesn't include gang units, vice units, narcotics units.

[53:23] It doesn't include gang units, vice units, narcotics units. Just so those additional bodies

[53:27] vice units, narcotics units. Just so those additional bodies

[53:27] vice units, narcotics units. Just so those additional bodies are getting plugged into other

[53:29] Just so those additional bodies are getting plugged into other

[53:29] Just so those additional bodies are getting plugged into other assignments. This is just

[53:31] are getting plugged into other assignments. This is just

[53:31] are getting plugged into other assignments. This is just patrol cars. Some of the

[53:33] assignments. This is just patrol cars. Some of the

[53:33] assignments. This is just patrol cars. Some of the divisions that appear to have

[53:35] patrol cars. Some of the divisions that appear to have

[53:35] patrol cars. Some of the divisions that appear to have larger numbers. There's

[53:37] divisions that appear to have larger numbers. There's

[53:37] divisions that appear to have larger numbers. There's something called a chief of

[53:38] larger numbers. There's something called a chief of

[53:39] larger numbers. There's something called a chief of police adjustment. And

[53:41] something called a chief of police adjustment. And

[53:41] something called a chief of police adjustment. And divisions like Hollywood have

[53:42] police adjustment. And divisions like Hollywood have

[53:42] police adjustment. And divisions like Hollywood have the Hollywood entertainment

[53:44] divisions like Hollywood have the Hollywood entertainment

[53:44] divisions like Hollywood have the Hollywood entertainment detail. So those numbers are a

[53:46] the Hollywood entertainment detail. So those numbers are a

[53:47] the Hollywood entertainment detail. So those numbers are a chief of police. Well just

[53:48] detail. So those numbers are a chief of police. Well just

[53:48] detail. So those numbers are a chief of police. Well just central division has reset for

[53:50] chief of police. Well just central division has reset for

[53:50] chief of police. Well just central division has reset for the skid row area. So those are

[53:53] central division has reset for the skid row area. So those are

[53:53] central division has reset for the skid row area. So those are an adjust. Some of the

[53:55] the skid row area. So those are an adjust. Some of the

[53:55] the skid row area. So those are an adjust. Some of the divisions have the community

[53:56] an adjust. Some of the divisions have the community

[53:56] an adjust. Some of the divisions have the community safety partnership. Those are

[53:58] divisions have the community safety partnership. Those are

[53:58] divisions have the community safety partnership. Those are an adjust. So depending on on

[54:00] safety partnership. Those are an adjust. So depending on on

[54:00] safety partnership. Those are an adjust. So depending on on some of the divisions and what

[54:02] an adjust. So depending on on some of the divisions and what

[54:02] an adjust. So depending on on some of the divisions and what you see, some divisions are

[54:04] some of the divisions and what you see, some divisions are

[54:04] some of the divisions and what you see, some divisions are allotted a chief of police

[54:06] you see, some divisions are allotted a chief of police

[54:06] you see, some divisions are allotted a chief of police adjust. And those numbers are

[54:08] allotted a chief of police adjust. And those numbers are

[54:08] allotted a chief of police adjust. And those numbers are are also included in that.

[54:10] adjust. And those numbers are are also included in that.

[54:10] adjust. And those numbers are are also included in that. Gotcha. Okay. I think it would

[54:12] are also included in that. Gotcha. Okay. I think it would

[54:12] are also included in that. Gotcha. Okay. I think it would be helpful to to that's why I'm

[54:14] Gotcha. Okay. I think it would be helpful to to that's why I'm

[54:14] Gotcha. Okay. I think it would be helpful to to that's why I'm asking that because all I see

[54:16] be helpful to to that's why I'm asking that because all I see

[54:16] be helpful to to that's why I'm asking that because all I see is a surplus and I'm like, why

[54:17] asking that because all I see is a surplus and I'm like, why

[54:17] asking that because all I see is a surplus and I'm like, why are we putting more police

[54:19] is a surplus and I'm like, why are we putting more police

[54:19] is a surplus and I'm like, why are we putting more police officers than we are supposed

[54:20] are we putting more police officers than we are supposed

[54:20] are we putting more police officers than we are supposed to? But I understand now, I

[54:21] officers than we are supposed to? But I understand now, I

[54:21] officers than we are supposed to? But I understand now, I completely understand. I have a

[54:22] to? But I understand now, I completely understand. I have a

[54:23] to? But I understand now, I completely understand. I have a couple more questions about. So

[54:26] completely understand. I have a couple more questions about. So

[54:26] completely understand. I have a couple more questions about. So we're diverting costs through

[54:28] couple more questions about. So we're diverting costs through

[54:28] couple more questions about. So we're diverting costs through UMC. I think it's great. Like I

[54:30] we're diverting costs through UMC. I think it's great. Like I

[54:30] we're diverting costs through UMC. I think it's great. Like I said, it's taking the work off

[54:32] UMC. I think it's great. Like I said, it's taking the work off

[54:32] UMC. I think it's great. Like I said, it's taking the work off of our police officers. The

[54:33] said, it's taking the work off of our police officers. The

[54:33] said, it's taking the work off of our police officers. The things that some of them don't

[54:34] of our police officers. The things that some of them don't

[54:34] of our police officers. The things that some of them don't even want to do. It's cheaper,

[54:37] things that some of them don't even want to do. It's cheaper,

[54:37] things that some of them don't even want to do. It's cheaper, you know, non-coated most of

[54:38] even want to do. It's cheaper, you know, non-coated most of

[54:38] even want to do. It's cheaper, you know, non-coated most of them are non-coated cause as

[54:40] you know, non-coated most of them are non-coated cause as

[54:40] you know, non-coated most of them are non-coated cause as you said, sometimes it takes a,

[54:41] them are non-coated cause as you said, sometimes it takes a,

[54:41] them are non-coated cause as you said, sometimes it takes a, you know, who knows when.

[54:42] you said, sometimes it takes a, you know, who knows when.

[54:42] you said, sometimes it takes a, you know, who knows when. Sometimes a day I've heard day

[54:44] you know, who knows when. Sometimes a day I've heard day

[54:44] you know, who knows when. Sometimes a day I've heard day after. And that response time I

[54:45] Sometimes a day I've heard day after. And that response time I

[54:45] Sometimes a day I've heard day after. And that response time I think is 28 minutes for UMC. So

[54:48] after. And that response time I think is 28 minutes for UMC. So

[54:48] after. And that response time I think is 28 minutes for UMC. So is. But I guess you haven't

[54:52] think is 28 minutes for UMC. So is. But I guess you haven't

[54:52] think is 28 minutes for UMC. So is. But I guess you haven't done the basic enforcement uh

[54:54] is. But I guess you haven't done the basic enforcement uh

[54:54] is. But I guess you haven't done the basic enforcement uh does that does that affect the

[54:56] done the basic enforcement uh does that does that affect the

[54:56] done the basic enforcement uh does that does that affect the basic deployment or the current

[54:58] does that does that affect the basic deployment or the current

[54:58] does that does that affect the basic deployment or the current patrol deployment? Have we have

[55:00] basic deployment or the current patrol deployment? Have we have

[55:00] basic deployment or the current patrol deployment? Have we have we looked into how that could

[55:02] patrol deployment? Have we have we looked into how that could

[55:02] patrol deployment? Have we have we looked into how that could go, I assume go down because we

[55:04] we looked into how that could go, I assume go down because we

[55:04] we looked into how that could go, I assume go down because we just diverting cause well yeah.

[55:05] go, I assume go down because we just diverting cause well yeah.

[55:05] go, I assume go down because we just diverting cause well yeah. Go ahead. So the basic the

[55:07] just diverting cause well yeah. Go ahead. So the basic the

[55:07] just diverting cause well yeah. Go ahead. So the basic the patrol plan is calculated

[55:08] Go ahead. So the basic the patrol plan is calculated

[55:08] Go ahead. So the basic the patrol plan is calculated quarterly. So the amount of

[55:10] patrol plan is calculated quarterly. So the amount of

[55:10] patrol plan is calculated quarterly. So the amount of radio calls which the UMC takes

[55:12] quarterly. So the amount of radio calls which the UMC takes

[55:12] quarterly. So the amount of radio calls which the UMC takes away would be that many less

[55:14] radio calls which the UMC takes away would be that many less

[55:14] radio calls which the UMC takes away would be that many less radio calls that now are fed

[55:16] away would be that many less radio calls that now are fed

[55:16] away would be that many less radio calls that now are fed into when patrol plans

[55:17] radio calls that now are fed into when patrol plans

[55:17] radio calls that now are fed into when patrol plans calculated into the

[55:18] into when patrol plans calculated into the

[55:19] into when patrol plans calculated into the calculations. So if say, let's

[55:20] calculated into the calculations. So if say, let's

[55:20] calculated into the calculations. So if say, let's just say one area of central

[55:22] calculations. So if say, let's just say one area of central

[55:22] calculations. So if say, let's just say one area of central had a lot of them, and then

[55:24] just say one area of central had a lot of them, and then

[55:24] just say one area of central had a lot of them, and then that cuts the percentage down

[55:25] had a lot of them, and then that cuts the percentage down

[55:25] had a lot of them, and then that cuts the percentage down by like 20%, then their demand

[55:28] that cuts the percentage down by like 20%, then their demand

[55:28] that cuts the percentage down by like 20%, then their demand would probably go down similar

[55:29] by like 20%, then their demand would probably go down similar

[55:30] by like 20%, then their demand would probably go down similar to that percentage. Based on

[55:31] would probably go down similar to that percentage. Based on

[55:31] would probably go down similar to that percentage. Based on that increase in numbers, it

[55:32] to that percentage. Based on that increase in numbers, it

[55:32] to that percentage. Based on that increase in numbers, it wouldn't be realized until the

[55:33] that increase in numbers, it wouldn't be realized until the

[55:33] that increase in numbers, it wouldn't be realized until the next year when we calculate

[55:35] wouldn't be realized until the next year when we calculate

[55:35] wouldn't be realized until the next year when we calculate that quarter. Again though, I

[55:37] next year when we calculate that quarter. Again though, I

[55:37] next year when we calculate that quarter. Again though, I see. So when I see here in page

[55:39] that quarter. Again though, I see. So when I see here in page

[55:39] that quarter. Again though, I see. So when I see here in page 6Q1 of 2026, that's not

[55:43] see. So when I see here in page 6Q1 of 2026, that's not

[55:43] see. So when I see here in page 6Q1 of 2026, that's not included. The new data on UMC

[55:45] 6Q1 of 2026, that's not included. The new data on UMC

[55:45] 6Q1 of 2026, that's not included. The new data on UMC is not included in that. No, in

[55:48] included. The new data on UMC is not included in that. No, in

[55:48] included. The new data on UMC is not included in that. No, in the new the new patrol plan.

[55:50] is not included in that. No, in the new the new patrol plan.

[55:50] is not included in that. No, in the new the new patrol plan. But this that would be so

[55:51] the new the new patrol plan. But this that would be so

[55:51] the new the new patrol plan. But this that would be so patrol plan quarter one 2026 is

[55:53] But this that would be so patrol plan quarter one 2026 is

[55:54] But this that would be so patrol plan quarter one 2026 is based off of data from quarter

[55:55] patrol plan quarter one 2026 is based off of data from quarter

[55:55] patrol plan quarter one 2026 is based off of data from quarter one 2025. So some some had are

[55:59] based off of data from quarter one 2025. So some some had are

[55:59] based off of data from quarter one 2025. So some some had are you including circle I know

[56:00] one 2025. So some some had are you including circle I know

[56:00] one 2025. So some some had are you including circle I know I'll Penny Lane and Exodus were

[56:02] you including circle I know I'll Penny Lane and Exodus were

[56:02] you including circle I know I'll Penny Lane and Exodus were sort of new. We're I know we're

[56:05] I'll Penny Lane and Exodus were sort of new. We're I know we're

[56:05] I'll Penny Lane and Exodus were sort of new. We're I know we're at six now or going to seven or

[56:07] sort of new. We're I know we're at six now or going to seven or

[56:07] sort of new. We're I know we're at six now or going to seven or something but does this include

[56:08] at six now or going to seven or something but does this include

[56:08] at six now or going to seven or something but does this include circle the circle program. Any

[56:10] something but does this include circle the circle program. Any

[56:10] something but does this include circle the circle program. Any any radio calls that weren't

[56:11] circle the circle program. Any any radio calls that weren't

[56:12] circle the circle program. Any any radio calls that weren't didn't generate it would be

[56:14] any radio calls that weren't didn't generate it would be

[56:14] any radio calls that weren't didn't generate it would be down by that many in that data

[56:16] didn't generate it would be down by that many in that data

[56:16] didn't generate it would be down by that many in that data set. So as the program

[56:17] down by that many in that data set. So as the program

[56:17] down by that many in that data set. So as the program continues and expands, you'll

[56:18] set. So as the program continues and expands, you'll

[56:19] set. So as the program continues and expands, you'll be able to continue to adjust

[56:20] continues and expands, you'll be able to continue to adjust

[56:20] continues and expands, you'll be able to continue to adjust your patrol plan. Yes. Every

[56:22] be able to continue to adjust your patrol plan. Yes. Every

[56:22] be able to continue to adjust your patrol plan. Yes. Every quarter. That's great. I may

[56:23] your patrol plan. Yes. Every quarter. That's great. I may

[56:23] your patrol plan. Yes. Every quarter. That's great. I may have more questions. This is

[56:24] quarter. That's great. I may have more questions. This is

[56:24] quarter. That's great. I may have more questions. This is really fascinating stuff. By

[56:25] have more questions. This is really fascinating stuff. By

[56:25] have more questions. This is really fascinating stuff. By the way. This is I'm glad you

[56:27] really fascinating stuff. By the way. This is I'm glad you

[56:27] really fascinating stuff. By the way. This is I'm glad you think so. I mean, it is because,

[56:28] the way. This is I'm glad you think so. I mean, it is because,

[56:29] the way. This is I'm glad you think so. I mean, it is because, you know, it's like I, I, I

[56:30] think so. I mean, it is because, you know, it's like I, I, I

[56:30] think so. I mean, it is because, you know, it's like I, I, I want to be like, you know, I

[56:32] you know, it's like I, I, I want to be like, you know, I

[56:32] you know, it's like I, I, I want to be like, you know, I speak openly like, I get it's

[56:33] want to be like, you know, I speak openly like, I get it's

[56:34] want to be like, you know, I speak openly like, I get it's such a bad reputation, you know,

[56:35] speak openly like, I get it's such a bad reputation, you know,

[56:35] speak openly like, I get it's such a bad reputation, you know, and and it's like, yeah, yeah.

[56:38] such a bad reputation, you know, and and it's like, yeah, yeah.

[56:38] such a bad reputation, you know, and and it's like, yeah, yeah. It's like and it's like I

[56:39] and and it's like, yeah, yeah. It's like and it's like I

[56:39] and and it's like, yeah, yeah. It's like and it's like I walked in this building.

[56:40] It's like and it's like I walked in this building.

[56:40] It's like and it's like I walked in this building. Everyone thought, like I had

[56:41] walked in this building. Everyone thought, like I had

[56:41] walked in this building. Everyone thought, like I had devil horns. And, you know, you

[56:42] Everyone thought, like I had devil horns. And, you know, you

[56:42] Everyone thought, like I had devil horns. And, you know, you know, all I want is public

[56:44] devil horns. And, you know, you know, all I want is public

[56:44] devil horns. And, you know, you know, all I want is public safety. That works. That's it.

[56:46] know, all I want is public safety. That works. That's it.

[56:46] know, all I want is public safety. That works. That's it. Like, I want my constituents

[56:47] safety. That works. That's it. Like, I want my constituents

[56:47] safety. That works. That's it. Like, I want my constituents when they call that the

[56:50] Like, I want my constituents when they call that the

[56:50] Like, I want my constituents when they call that the appropriate. Like we can debate

[56:51] when they call that the appropriate. Like we can debate

[56:51] when they call that the appropriate. Like we can debate the appropriate that the

[56:52] appropriate. Like we can debate the appropriate that the

[56:53] appropriate. Like we can debate the appropriate that the appropriate person gets to

[56:54] the appropriate that the appropriate person gets to

[56:54] the appropriate that the appropriate person gets to their door or handles their

[56:55] appropriate person gets to their door or handles their

[56:55] appropriate person gets to their door or handles their issue. Right. And and that's

[56:59] their door or handles their issue. Right. And and that's

[57:00] their door or handles their issue. Right. And and that's going to look different for

[57:00] issue. Right. And and that's going to look different for

[57:00] issue. Right. And and that's going to look different for different people. I get that.

[57:02] going to look different for different people. I get that.

[57:02] going to look different for different people. I get that. But and I also want I want a

[57:04] different people. I get that. But and I also want I want a

[57:04] different people. I get that. But and I also want I want a government that works and I

[57:05] But and I also want I want a government that works and I

[57:05] But and I also want I want a government that works and I want to do it as efficiently as

[57:07] government that works and I want to do it as efficiently as

[57:07] government that works and I want to do it as efficiently as possible. And I want people to

[57:08] want to do it as efficiently as possible. And I want people to

[57:08] want to do it as efficiently as possible. And I want people to feel respected in this city.

[57:09] possible. And I want people to feel respected in this city.

[57:09] possible. And I want people to feel respected in this city. Right. As a as a union

[57:11] feel respected in this city. Right. As a as a union

[57:11] feel respected in this city. Right. As a as a union organizer for many years, like

[57:12] Right. As a as a union organizer for many years, like

[57:12] Right. As a as a union organizer for many years, like making sure people are valued

[57:13] organizer for many years, like making sure people are valued

[57:13] organizer for many years, like making sure people are valued is important. But, you know,

[57:16] making sure people are valued is important. But, you know,

[57:16] making sure people are valued is important. But, you know, and democracy is difficult. But

[57:17] is important. But, you know, and democracy is difficult. But

[57:17] is important. But, you know, and democracy is difficult. But so when I'm, I'm really I'm

[57:19] and democracy is difficult. But so when I'm, I'm really I'm

[57:19] and democracy is difficult. But so when I'm, I'm really I'm getting excited about this is

[57:20] so when I'm, I'm really I'm getting excited about this is

[57:20] so when I'm, I'm really I'm getting excited about this is because it's at least we're

[57:23] getting excited about this is because it's at least we're

[57:23] getting excited about this is because it's at least we're having the conversation. I feel

[57:24] because it's at least we're having the conversation. I feel

[57:24] because it's at least we're having the conversation. I feel like, you know, I've been in

[57:25] having the conversation. I feel like, you know, I've been in

[57:25] having the conversation. I feel like, you know, I've been in the city, I've been in the city

[57:27] like, you know, I've been in the city, I've been in the city

[57:27] like, you know, I've been in the city, I've been in the city for 42 years now, and we're

[57:29] the city, I've been in the city for 42 years now, and we're

[57:29] the city, I've been in the city for 42 years now, and we're having like very robust

[57:31] for 42 years now, and we're having like very robust

[57:31] for 42 years now, and we're having like very robust conversations about what public

[57:32] having like very robust conversations about what public

[57:32] having like very robust conversations about what public safety should look like. Right.

[57:34] conversations about what public safety should look like. Right.

[57:34] conversations about what public safety should look like. Right. And the world has changed. You

[57:36] safety should look like. Right. And the world has changed. You

[57:36] safety should look like. Right. And the world has changed. You know, people are being pushed

[57:37] And the world has changed. You know, people are being pushed

[57:37] And the world has changed. You know, people are being pushed out into the streets because

[57:39] know, people are being pushed out into the streets because

[57:39] know, people are being pushed out into the streets because the cost of living is too damn

[57:41] out into the streets because the cost of living is too damn

[57:41] out into the streets because the cost of living is too damn expensive. Wages are too damn

[57:43] the cost of living is too damn expensive. Wages are too damn

[57:43] the cost of living is too damn expensive. Wages are too damn low. You know, there's our our

[57:46] expensive. Wages are too damn low. You know, there's our our

[57:46] expensive. Wages are too damn low. You know, there's our our our safety net of this society

[57:47] low. You know, there's our our our safety net of this society

[57:47] low. You know, there's our our our safety net of this society is like crumbling. There's not

[57:49] our safety net of this society is like crumbling. There's not

[57:49] our safety net of this society is like crumbling. There's not mental health, drug addiction.

[57:50] is like crumbling. There's not mental health, drug addiction.

[57:50] is like crumbling. There's not mental health, drug addiction. So like we have to adjust and

[57:52] mental health, drug addiction. So like we have to adjust and

[57:52] mental health, drug addiction. So like we have to adjust and we just we're behind the ball

[57:54] So like we have to adjust and we just we're behind the ball

[57:54] So like we have to adjust and we just we're behind the ball right now. I feel like our

[57:55] we just we're behind the ball right now. I feel like our

[57:55] we just we're behind the ball right now. I feel like our system of public safety is like,

[57:58] right now. I feel like our system of public safety is like,

[57:58] right now. I feel like our system of public safety is like, I don't know, 30 years old, you

[58:00] system of public safety is like, I don't know, 30 years old, you

[58:00] system of public safety is like, I don't know, 30 years old, you know? So we gotta, we gotta we

[58:02] I don't know, 30 years old, you know? So we gotta, we gotta we

[58:02] I don't know, 30 years old, you know? So we gotta, we gotta we gotta evolve, you know, so but

[58:03] know? So we gotta, we gotta we gotta evolve, you know, so but

[58:03] know? So we gotta, we gotta we gotta evolve, you know, so but this is a big piece of it,

[58:05] gotta evolve, you know, so but this is a big piece of it,

[58:05] gotta evolve, you know, so but this is a big piece of it, making sure that our response

[58:07] this is a big piece of it, making sure that our response

[58:07] this is a big piece of it, making sure that our response times are quick, that they're

[58:08] making sure that our response times are quick, that they're

[58:08] making sure that our response times are quick, that they're doing the job they're supposed

[58:09] times are quick, that they're doing the job they're supposed

[58:09] times are quick, that they're doing the job they're supposed that we're adjusting to the

[58:11] doing the job they're supposed that we're adjusting to the

[58:11] doing the job they're supposed that we're adjusting to the times I think is just a

[58:13] that we're adjusting to the times I think is just a

[58:13] that we're adjusting to the times I think is just a wonderful policy conversation

[58:15] times I think is just a wonderful policy conversation

[58:15] times I think is just a wonderful policy conversation to be out in the open. And

[58:17] wonderful policy conversation to be out in the open. And

[58:17] wonderful policy conversation to be out in the open. And we're going to be requesting

[58:19] to be out in the open. And we're going to be requesting

[58:19] to be out in the open. And we're going to be requesting that a new plan be be put into

[58:22] we're going to be requesting that a new plan be be put into

[58:22] we're going to be requesting that a new plan be be put into the mayor's budget. Council

[58:24] that a new plan be be put into the mayor's budget. Council

[58:24] that a new plan be be put into the mayor's budget. Council member, any additional

[58:25] the mayor's budget. Council member, any additional

[58:25] the mayor's budget. Council member, any additional questions? Yeah. Thanks very

[58:27] member, any additional questions? Yeah. Thanks very

[58:27] member, any additional questions? Yeah. Thanks very much. My my sense. And tell me

[58:29] questions? Yeah. Thanks very much. My my sense. And tell me

[58:29] questions? Yeah. Thanks very much. My my sense. And tell me if this is if this is wrong or

[58:31] much. My my sense. And tell me if this is if this is wrong or

[58:31] much. My my sense. And tell me if this is if this is wrong or if this is way off. My sense

[58:33] if this is if this is wrong or if this is way off. My sense

[58:33] if this is if this is wrong or if this is way off. My sense with the patrol plan is it's

[58:34] if this is way off. My sense with the patrol plan is it's

[58:34] if this is way off. My sense with the patrol plan is it's really a management tool to

[58:36] with the patrol plan is it's really a management tool to

[58:36] with the patrol plan is it's really a management tool to tell us with what we have today,

[58:37] really a management tool to tell us with what we have today,

[58:37] really a management tool to tell us with what we have today, our numbers of calls, our

[58:39] tell us with what we have today, our numbers of calls, our

[58:39] tell us with what we have today, our numbers of calls, our numbers of folks available, our

[58:40] our numbers of calls, our numbers of folks available, our

[58:40] our numbers of calls, our numbers of folks available, our number of cars dispatched as we

[58:42] numbers of folks available, our number of cars dispatched as we

[58:42] numbers of folks available, our number of cars dispatched as we are set up today. This is sort

[58:45] number of cars dispatched as we are set up today. This is sort

[58:45] number of cars dispatched as we are set up today. This is sort of how we manage those patrol

[58:47] are set up today. This is sort of how we manage those patrol

[58:47] are set up today. This is sort of how we manage those patrol cars out there. And we go from

[58:51] of how we manage those patrol cars out there. And we go from

[58:51] of how we manage those patrol cars out there. And we go from 730 to 747. 40 to 730. Just to

[58:53] cars out there. And we go from 730 to 747. 40 to 730. Just to

[58:53] cars out there. And we go from 730 to 747. 40 to 730. Just to respond to the reality, just to

[58:54] 730 to 747. 40 to 730. Just to respond to the reality, just to

[58:54] 730 to 747. 40 to 730. Just to respond to the reality, just to record the reality that we're

[58:57] respond to the reality, just to record the reality that we're

[58:57] respond to the reality, just to record the reality that we're chasing radio calls and have

[58:59] record the reality that we're chasing radio calls and have

[58:59] record the reality that we're chasing radio calls and have less time for in in field

[59:01] chasing radio calls and have less time for in in field

[59:01] chasing radio calls and have less time for in in field proactive. My sense, which is

[59:04] less time for in in field proactive. My sense, which is

[59:04] less time for in in field proactive. My sense, which is fine, I get it. My sense of the

[59:08] proactive. My sense, which is fine, I get it. My sense of the

[59:08] proactive. My sense, which is fine, I get it. My sense of the the the basic car plan and

[59:11] fine, I get it. My sense of the the the basic car plan and

[59:11] fine, I get it. My sense of the the the basic car plan and study is to say, putting the

[59:14] the the basic car plan and study is to say, putting the

[59:14] the the basic car plan and study is to say, putting the realities of the world aside.

[59:16] study is to say, putting the realities of the world aside.

[59:16] study is to say, putting the realities of the world aside. What would be ideal for us?

[59:18] realities of the world aside. What would be ideal for us?

[59:18] realities of the world aside. What would be ideal for us? What would be the ideal

[59:20] What would be ideal for us? What would be the ideal

[59:20] What would be ideal for us? What would be the ideal geography for a basic car? What

[59:21] What would be the ideal geography for a basic car? What

[59:22] What would be the ideal geography for a basic car? What would be the ideal dispersement

[59:24] geography for a basic car? What would be the ideal dispersement

[59:24] geography for a basic car? What would be the ideal dispersement of of, you know, senior lead

[59:27] would be the ideal dispersement of of, you know, senior lead

[59:27] would be the ideal dispersement of of, you know, senior lead officers and basic cars across

[59:30] of of, you know, senior lead officers and basic cars across

[59:30] of of, you know, senior lead officers and basic cars across the city? And so it could lead.

[59:33] officers and basic cars across the city? And so it could lead.

[59:33] officers and basic cars across the city? And so it could lead. I mean, I'm all for funding a

[59:34] the city? And so it could lead. I mean, I'm all for funding a

[59:35] the city? And so it could lead. I mean, I'm all for funding a study and and and figuring out

[59:36] I mean, I'm all for funding a study and and and figuring out

[59:36] I mean, I'm all for funding a study and and and figuring out what the realities are and what

[59:37] study and and and figuring out what the realities are and what

[59:38] study and and and figuring out what the realities are and what the best practices would be,

[59:39] what the realities are and what the best practices would be,

[59:39] what the realities are and what the best practices would be, but it will, in fact, probably

[59:41] the best practices would be, but it will, in fact, probably

[59:41] the best practices would be, but it will, in fact, probably change the Dispersement and

[59:42] but it will, in fact, probably change the Dispersement and

[59:42] but it will, in fact, probably change the Dispersement and numbers of SLOs and basic cars

[59:44] change the Dispersement and numbers of SLOs and basic cars

[59:44] change the Dispersement and numbers of SLOs and basic cars in the city of LA. Absolutely.

[59:47] numbers of SLOs and basic cars in the city of LA. Absolutely.

[59:47] numbers of SLOs and basic cars in the city of LA. Absolutely. I believe when matrix did the

[59:49] in the city of LA. Absolutely. I believe when matrix did the

[59:49] in the city of LA. Absolutely. I believe when matrix did the study, there were some

[59:51] I believe when matrix did the study, there were some

[59:51] I believe when matrix did the study, there were some recommendations in there for

[59:52] study, there were some recommendations in there for

[59:52] study, there were some recommendations in there for some areas, and it included

[59:55] recommendations in there for some areas, and it included

[59:55] recommendations in there for some areas, and it included redrawing additional cars to

[59:58] some areas, and it included redrawing additional cars to

[59:58] some areas, and it included redrawing additional cars to certain areas, additional

[1:00:00] redrawing additional cars to certain areas, additional

[1:00:00] redrawing additional cars to certain areas, additional senior lead officers. There

[1:00:01] certain areas, additional senior lead officers. There

[1:00:02] certain areas, additional senior lead officers. There were some recommendations in

[1:00:04] senior lead officers. There were some recommendations in

[1:00:04] senior lead officers. There were some recommendations in there, but it would require

[1:00:06] were some recommendations in there, but it would require

[1:00:06] were some recommendations in there, but it would require more officers. Well, that's

[1:00:08] there, but it would require more officers. Well, that's

[1:00:08] there, but it would require more officers. Well, that's what I was going to get to. So

[1:00:10] more officers. Well, that's what I was going to get to. So

[1:00:10] more officers. Well, that's what I was going to get to. So when you do a study like that,

[1:00:11] what I was going to get to. So when you do a study like that,

[1:00:11] what I was going to get to. So when you do a study like that, rather than what we're doing

[1:00:13] when you do a study like that, rather than what we're doing

[1:00:13] when you do a study like that, rather than what we're doing with our patrol plan, where we

[1:00:14] rather than what we're doing with our patrol plan, where we

[1:00:14] rather than what we're doing with our patrol plan, where we have to know and the next DPO,

[1:00:16] with our patrol plan, where we have to know and the next DPO,

[1:00:16] with our patrol plan, where we have to know and the next DPO, where is everybody going to be?

[1:00:18] have to know and the next DPO, where is everybody going to be?

[1:00:18] have to know and the next DPO, where is everybody going to be? Yeah. When we do a study, there

[1:00:21] where is everybody going to be? Yeah. When we do a study, there

[1:00:21] where is everybody going to be? Yeah. When we do a study, there are certain there are certain

[1:00:23] Yeah. When we do a study, there are certain there are certain

[1:00:23] Yeah. When we do a study, there are certain there are certain things that clearly have to

[1:00:24] are certain there are certain things that clearly have to

[1:00:25] are certain there are certain things that clearly have to control what's our call load?

[1:00:26] things that clearly have to control what's our call load?

[1:00:26] things that clearly have to control what's our call load? What is the geography of the

[1:00:28] control what's our call load? What is the geography of the

[1:00:28] control what's our call load? What is the geography of the city? What are the. Those are

[1:00:31] What is the geography of the city? What are the. Those are

[1:00:31] What is the geography of the city? What are the. Those are the big ones, obviously. Will

[1:00:34] city? What are the. Those are the big ones, obviously. Will

[1:00:34] city? What are the. Those are the big ones, obviously. Will it also tell us that listen,

[1:00:36] the big ones, obviously. Will it also tell us that listen,

[1:00:36] the big ones, obviously. Will it also tell us that listen, for us to have an ideal basic

[1:00:38] it also tell us that listen, for us to have an ideal basic

[1:00:38] it also tell us that listen, for us to have an ideal basic car plan, we need X number of

[1:00:40] for us to have an ideal basic car plan, we need X number of

[1:00:40] for us to have an ideal basic car plan, we need X number of officers or will we be pushing

[1:00:42] car plan, we need X number of officers or will we be pushing

[1:00:42] car plan, we need X number of officers or will we be pushing down as the old, you know,

[1:00:44] officers or will we be pushing down as the old, you know,

[1:00:44] officers or will we be pushing down as the old, you know, Bonin plan proposed pushing

[1:00:46] down as the old, you know, Bonin plan proposed pushing

[1:00:46] down as the old, you know, Bonin plan proposed pushing down from central management

[1:00:47] Bonin plan proposed pushing down from central management

[1:00:48] Bonin plan proposed pushing down from central management out to the field to create more

[1:00:50] down from central management out to the field to create more

[1:00:50] down from central management out to the field to create more basic cars by having fewer

[1:00:52] out to the field to create more basic cars by having fewer

[1:00:52] out to the field to create more basic cars by having fewer other specialized units or

[1:00:54] basic cars by having fewer other specialized units or

[1:00:54] basic cars by having fewer other specialized units or management positions, because

[1:00:57] other specialized units or management positions, because

[1:00:57] other specialized units or management positions, because it's it's not a I'm not taking

[1:00:59] management positions, because it's it's not a I'm not taking

[1:00:59] management positions, because it's it's not a I'm not taking a cheap shot at management as I

[1:01:02] it's it's not a I'm not taking a cheap shot at management as I

[1:01:02] it's it's not a I'm not taking a cheap shot at management as I got all these great managers

[1:01:03] a cheap shot at management as I got all these great managers

[1:01:03] a cheap shot at management as I got all these great managers sitting here. It's it. One of

[1:01:06] got all these great managers sitting here. It's it. One of

[1:01:06] got all these great managers sitting here. It's it. One of the things it could do is it

[1:01:07] sitting here. It's it. One of the things it could do is it

[1:01:07] sitting here. It's it. One of the things it could do is it could pull away from those

[1:01:08] the things it could do is it could pull away from those

[1:01:08] the things it could do is it could pull away from those other cars and those other

[1:01:09] could pull away from those other cars and those other

[1:01:10] could pull away from those other cars and those other details, whether it's traffic

[1:01:11] other cars and those other details, whether it's traffic

[1:01:11] other cars and those other details, whether it's traffic or gangs or other things. I

[1:01:14] details, whether it's traffic or gangs or other things. I

[1:01:14] details, whether it's traffic or gangs or other things. I think that there's a lot over

[1:01:17] or gangs or other things. I think that there's a lot over

[1:01:17] or gangs or other things. I think that there's a lot over the past decade or two that has

[1:01:19] think that there's a lot over the past decade or two that has

[1:01:19] think that there's a lot over the past decade or two that has not been considered when it

[1:01:23] the past decade or two that has not been considered when it

[1:01:23] the past decade or two that has not been considered when it relates to response time and

[1:01:25] not been considered when it relates to response time and

[1:01:25] not been considered when it relates to response time and basic cars, and that's the type

[1:01:28] relates to response time and basic cars, and that's the type

[1:01:28] relates to response time and basic cars, and that's the type of calls that our officers are

[1:01:30] basic cars, and that's the type of calls that our officers are

[1:01:30] basic cars, and that's the type of calls that our officers are spending their most time on.

[1:01:31] of calls that our officers are spending their most time on.

[1:01:31] of calls that our officers are spending their most time on. Yeah, and it's mental illness

[1:01:33] spending their most time on. Yeah, and it's mental illness

[1:01:33] spending their most time on. Yeah, and it's mental illness and homelessness and booking

[1:01:36] Yeah, and it's mental illness and homelessness and booking

[1:01:36] Yeah, and it's mental illness and homelessness and booking property. A lot of their time

[1:01:39] and homelessness and booking property. A lot of their time

[1:01:39] and homelessness and booking property. A lot of their time is spent on trying to weave and

[1:01:44] property. A lot of their time is spent on trying to weave and

[1:01:44] property. A lot of their time is spent on trying to weave and work through some broken

[1:01:45] is spent on trying to weave and work through some broken

[1:01:46] is spent on trying to weave and work through some broken systems. As police officers.

[1:01:49] work through some broken systems. As police officers.

[1:01:49] work through some broken systems. As police officers. Sometimes officers may

[1:01:51] systems. As police officers. Sometimes officers may

[1:01:51] systems. As police officers. Sometimes officers may transport one person to a

[1:01:52] Sometimes officers may transport one person to a

[1:01:52] Sometimes officers may transport one person to a hospital and they're there for

[1:01:54] transport one person to a hospital and they're there for

[1:01:54] transport one person to a hospital and they're there for 6 or 7 hours. That's 1 or 2 men,

[1:01:57] hospital and they're there for 6 or 7 hours. That's 1 or 2 men,

[1:01:57] hospital and they're there for 6 or 7 hours. That's 1 or 2 men, black and white, out from

[1:01:59] 6 or 7 hours. That's 1 or 2 men, black and white, out from

[1:02:00] 6 or 7 hours. That's 1 or 2 men, black and white, out from handling radio calls because

[1:02:01] black and white, out from handling radio calls because

[1:02:01] black and white, out from handling radio calls because they're sitting at a hospital

[1:02:03] handling radio calls because they're sitting at a hospital

[1:02:03] handling radio calls because they're sitting at a hospital because there's no other

[1:02:06] they're sitting at a hospital because there's no other

[1:02:06] they're sitting at a hospital because there's no other non-police. So there's a lot of

[1:02:08] because there's no other non-police. So there's a lot of

[1:02:08] because there's no other non-police. So there's a lot of factors that I think a very

[1:02:11] non-police. So there's a lot of factors that I think a very

[1:02:11] non-police. So there's a lot of factors that I think a very comprehensive study could,

[1:02:13] factors that I think a very comprehensive study could,

[1:02:13] factors that I think a very comprehensive study could, could look at our new way of

[1:02:15] comprehensive study could, could look at our new way of

[1:02:15] comprehensive study could, could look at our new way of policing and the 30 other

[1:02:18] could look at our new way of policing and the 30 other

[1:02:18] could look at our new way of policing and the 30 other things that have been added on

[1:02:20] policing and the 30 other things that have been added on

[1:02:20] policing and the 30 other things that have been added on to the police department since

[1:02:21] things that have been added on to the police department since

[1:02:21] things that have been added on to the police department since that study was done. Yeah. And

[1:02:23] to the police department since that study was done. Yeah. And

[1:02:23] to the police department since that study was done. Yeah. And I'd venture to say a whole

[1:02:25] that study was done. Yeah. And I'd venture to say a whole

[1:02:25] that study was done. Yeah. And I'd venture to say a whole different report would come out.

[1:02:26] I'd venture to say a whole different report would come out.

[1:02:27] I'd venture to say a whole different report would come out. That has nothing to do with

[1:02:31] different report would come out. That has nothing to do with

[1:02:31] different report would come out. That has nothing to do with terrain or basic cars or how

[1:02:33] That has nothing to do with terrain or basic cars or how

[1:02:33] That has nothing to do with terrain or basic cars or how many miles, but more to do with

[1:02:35] terrain or basic cars or how many miles, but more to do with

[1:02:35] terrain or basic cars or how many miles, but more to do with public health and systems and

[1:02:37] many miles, but more to do with public health and systems and

[1:02:37] many miles, but more to do with public health and systems and what police shouldn't be doing.

[1:02:39] public health and systems and what police shouldn't be doing.

[1:02:39] public health and systems and what police shouldn't be doing. So that's excellent. Excellent

[1:02:41] what police shouldn't be doing. So that's excellent. Excellent

[1:02:41] what police shouldn't be doing. So that's excellent. Excellent answer. And that's probably the

[1:02:42] So that's excellent. Excellent answer. And that's probably the

[1:02:42] So that's excellent. Excellent answer. And that's probably the reality is that the world has

[1:02:43] answer. And that's probably the reality is that the world has

[1:02:43] answer. And that's probably the reality is that the world has changed from 1988 to today. And

[1:02:46] reality is that the world has changed from 1988 to today. And

[1:02:46] reality is that the world has changed from 1988 to today. And the things that we don't need

[1:02:48] changed from 1988 to today. And the things that we don't need

[1:02:48] changed from 1988 to today. And the things that we don't need police officers doing, as my

[1:02:50] the things that we don't need police officers doing, as my

[1:02:50] the things that we don't need police officers doing, as my colleague Martinez said,

[1:02:51] police officers doing, as my colleague Martinez said,

[1:02:51] police officers doing, as my colleague Martinez said, probably makes a lot of sense.

[1:02:53] colleague Martinez said, probably makes a lot of sense.

[1:02:53] colleague Martinez said, probably makes a lot of sense. That goes into one of the

[1:02:54] probably makes a lot of sense. That goes into one of the

[1:02:54] probably makes a lot of sense. That goes into one of the factors. And there's also some

[1:02:55] That goes into one of the factors. And there's also some

[1:02:55] That goes into one of the factors. And there's also some some message in some comment in

[1:02:57] factors. And there's also some some message in some comment in

[1:02:57] factors. And there's also some some message in some comment in the report that we read saying

[1:02:59] some message in some comment in the report that we read saying

[1:02:59] some message in some comment in the report that we read saying that there are some

[1:03:01] the report that we read saying that there are some

[1:03:01] the report that we read saying that there are some inaccuracies or some challenges

[1:03:03] that there are some inaccuracies or some challenges

[1:03:03] that there are some inaccuracies or some challenges with multiple car, car, more

[1:03:05] inaccuracies or some challenges with multiple car, car, more

[1:03:06] inaccuracies or some challenges with multiple car, car, more than one car heading to the

[1:03:07] with multiple car, car, more than one car heading to the

[1:03:07] with multiple car, car, more than one car heading to the same call, or some inaccuracies

[1:03:09] than one car heading to the same call, or some inaccuracies

[1:03:09] than one car heading to the same call, or some inaccuracies on the code six designation. So

[1:03:11] same call, or some inaccuracies on the code six designation. So

[1:03:11] same call, or some inaccuracies on the code six designation. So maybe there's also some

[1:03:12] on the code six designation. So maybe there's also some

[1:03:12] on the code six designation. So maybe there's also some management tools and reforms

[1:03:14] maybe there's also some management tools and reforms

[1:03:14] maybe there's also some management tools and reforms that come out of such a report.

[1:03:16] management tools and reforms that come out of such a report.

[1:03:16] management tools and reforms that come out of such a report. Yes. When we looked at this,

[1:03:19] that come out of such a report. Yes. When we looked at this,

[1:03:19] that come out of such a report. Yes. When we looked at this, one of the things we found is

[1:03:21] Yes. When we looked at this, one of the things we found is

[1:03:21] Yes. When we looked at this, one of the things we found is there were some technical

[1:03:24] one of the things we found is there were some technical

[1:03:24] one of the things we found is there were some technical difficulties with how we

[1:03:26] there were some technical difficulties with how we

[1:03:26] there were some technical difficulties with how we capture officer's time. If

[1:03:28] difficulties with how we capture officer's time. If

[1:03:28] difficulties with how we capture officer's time. If there's a help call that goes

[1:03:29] capture officer's time. If there's a help call that goes

[1:03:29] capture officer's time. If there's a help call that goes out, you might have eight

[1:03:31] there's a help call that goes out, you might have eight

[1:03:31] there's a help call that goes out, you might have eight officers that respond to that

[1:03:32] out, you might have eight officers that respond to that

[1:03:32] out, you might have eight officers that respond to that help call. And that could

[1:03:33] officers that respond to that help call. And that could

[1:03:33] officers that respond to that help call. And that could change the mathematical

[1:03:36] help call. And that could change the mathematical

[1:03:36] help call. And that could change the mathematical algorithm for for time and how

[1:03:37] change the mathematical algorithm for for time and how

[1:03:37] change the mathematical algorithm for for time and how many officers were spent there.

[1:03:39] algorithm for for time and how many officers were spent there.

[1:03:39] algorithm for for time and how many officers were spent there. Or if officers go out to the

[1:03:41] many officers were spent there. Or if officers go out to the

[1:03:41] many officers were spent there. Or if officers go out to the station, we don't know what

[1:03:42] Or if officers go out to the station, we don't know what

[1:03:42] Or if officers go out to the station, we don't know what they're out to the station

[1:03:44] station, we don't know what they're out to the station

[1:03:44] station, we don't know what they're out to the station doing. Are they writing a

[1:03:45] they're out to the station doing. Are they writing a

[1:03:45] they're out to the station doing. Are they writing a report? Are they booking

[1:03:46] doing. Are they writing a report? Are they booking

[1:03:47] doing. Are they writing a report? Are they booking property? So looking at our

[1:03:48] report? Are they booking property? So looking at our

[1:03:48] report? Are they booking property? So looking at our computer, our computerized

[1:03:50] property? So looking at our computer, our computerized

[1:03:50] property? So looking at our computer, our computerized system and trying to flush

[1:03:52] computer, our computerized system and trying to flush

[1:03:52] computer, our computerized system and trying to flush those out more so we can really

[1:03:54] system and trying to flush those out more so we can really

[1:03:54] system and trying to flush those out more so we can really see where their time is being

[1:03:55] those out more so we can really see where their time is being

[1:03:55] those out more so we can really see where their time is being spent and should that be

[1:03:57] see where their time is being spent and should that be

[1:03:57] see where their time is being spent and should that be considered into the

[1:03:59] spent and should that be considered into the

[1:03:59] spent and should that be considered into the mathematical algorithm, when

[1:04:00] considered into the mathematical algorithm, when

[1:04:00] considered into the mathematical algorithm, when we're looking at the patrol

[1:04:02] mathematical algorithm, when we're looking at the patrol

[1:04:02] mathematical algorithm, when we're looking at the patrol plan. Excellent. Thank you. And

[1:04:04] we're looking at the patrol plan. Excellent. Thank you. And

[1:04:04] we're looking at the patrol plan. Excellent. Thank you. And that also. So we were down

[1:04:07] plan. Excellent. Thank you. And that also. So we were down

[1:04:07] plan. Excellent. Thank you. And that also. So we were down heavily with sergeants. And

[1:04:09] that also. So we were down heavily with sergeants. And

[1:04:09] that also. So we were down heavily with sergeants. And recently we've promoted

[1:04:11] heavily with sergeants. And recently we've promoted

[1:04:11] heavily with sergeants. And recently we've promoted sergeants. And that's where our

[1:04:12] recently we've promoted sergeants. And that's where our

[1:04:12] recently we've promoted sergeants. And that's where our field supervisors can help

[1:04:14] sergeants. And that's where our field supervisors can help

[1:04:14] sergeants. And that's where our field supervisors can help ensuring that our officers are

[1:04:16] field supervisors can help ensuring that our officers are

[1:04:16] field supervisors can help ensuring that our officers are clearing from calls and having

[1:04:18] ensuring that our officers are clearing from calls and having

[1:04:18] ensuring that our officers are clearing from calls and having that field leadership oversight.

[1:04:21] clearing from calls and having that field leadership oversight.

[1:04:21] clearing from calls and having that field leadership oversight. Yeah. Time management. That

[1:04:23] that field leadership oversight. Yeah. Time management. That

[1:04:23] that field leadership oversight. Yeah. Time management. That makes sense. Thank you. We're

[1:04:25] Yeah. Time management. That makes sense. Thank you. We're

[1:04:25] Yeah. Time management. That makes sense. Thank you. We're also have not made detectives

[1:04:26] makes sense. Thank you. We're also have not made detectives

[1:04:26] makes sense. Thank you. We're also have not made detectives in over a year and a half. And

[1:04:28] also have not made detectives in over a year and a half. And

[1:04:28] also have not made detectives in over a year and a half. And you know, we can't talk about

[1:04:29] in over a year and a half. And you know, we can't talk about

[1:04:29] in over a year and a half. And you know, we can't talk about crime and response time without

[1:04:31] you know, we can't talk about crime and response time without

[1:04:31] you know, we can't talk about crime and response time without talking about victims. And

[1:04:33] crime and response time without talking about victims. And

[1:04:33] crime and response time without talking about victims. And those are people who've been

[1:04:35] talking about victims. And those are people who've been

[1:04:35] talking about victims. And those are people who've been victimized who may not be

[1:04:35] those are people who've been victimized who may not be

[1:04:35] those are people who've been victimized who may not be getting a phone call because we

[1:04:38] victimized who may not be getting a phone call because we

[1:04:38] victimized who may not be getting a phone call because we have 2 to 3 detectives working

[1:04:40] getting a phone call because we have 2 to 3 detectives working

[1:04:40] getting a phone call because we have 2 to 3 detectives working a table. And that's difficult

[1:04:44] have 2 to 3 detectives working a table. And that's difficult

[1:04:44] have 2 to 3 detectives working a table. And that's difficult as it relates to building trust

[1:04:46] a table. And that's difficult as it relates to building trust

[1:04:46] a table. And that's difficult as it relates to building trust and victims feeling seen and

[1:04:48] as it relates to building trust and victims feeling seen and

[1:04:48] as it relates to building trust and victims feeling seen and heard in the work that we do.

[1:04:49] and victims feeling seen and heard in the work that we do.

[1:04:49] and victims feeling seen and heard in the work that we do. And I've heard Detective List

[1:04:51] heard in the work that we do. And I've heard Detective List

[1:04:51] heard in the work that we do. And I've heard Detective List right now, and we're looking to

[1:04:52] And I've heard Detective List right now, and we're looking to

[1:04:52] And I've heard Detective List right now, and we're looking to pull some people. That's always

[1:04:55] right now, and we're looking to pull some people. That's always

[1:04:55] right now, and we're looking to pull some people. That's always a challenge. You know, when

[1:04:56] pull some people. That's always a challenge. You know, when

[1:04:56] pull some people. That's always a challenge. You know, when when good people go from one

[1:04:58] a challenge. You know, when when good people go from one

[1:04:58] a challenge. You know, when when good people go from one position to another position, I

[1:04:59] when good people go from one position to another position, I

[1:04:59] when good people go from one position to another position, I mean, good for them. But it it

[1:05:01] position to another position, I mean, good for them. But it it

[1:05:01] position to another position, I mean, good for them. But it it impacts every every time

[1:05:02] mean, good for them. But it it impacts every every time

[1:05:02] mean, good for them. But it it impacts every every time someone moves. I was just going

[1:05:06] impacts every every time someone moves. I was just going

[1:05:06] impacts every every time someone moves. I was just going to say have a significant

[1:05:07] someone moves. I was just going to say have a significant

[1:05:07] someone moves. I was just going to say have a significant number of officers loan to

[1:05:08] to say have a significant number of officers loan to

[1:05:08] to say have a significant number of officers loan to detectives. So once we make

[1:05:09] number of officers loan to detectives. So once we make

[1:05:09] number of officers loan to detectives. So once we make detectives we'll be able to

[1:05:11] detectives. So once we make detectives we'll be able to

[1:05:11] detectives. So once we make detectives we'll be able to flush those officers, make them

[1:05:12] detectives we'll be able to flush those officers, make them

[1:05:12] detectives we'll be able to flush those officers, make them detectives or put them back out

[1:05:13] flush those officers, make them detectives or put them back out

[1:05:13] flush those officers, make them detectives or put them back out on patrol. Oh good. Thank you.

[1:05:15] detectives or put them back out on patrol. Oh good. Thank you.

[1:05:15] detectives or put them back out on patrol. Oh good. Thank you. Thank you very much for the

[1:05:17] on patrol. Oh good. Thank you. Thank you very much for the

[1:05:17] on patrol. Oh good. Thank you. Thank you very much for the report. Well, thank you

[1:05:18] Thank you very much for the report. Well, thank you

[1:05:18] Thank you very much for the report. Well, thank you everyone. You know, our senior

[1:05:19] report. Well, thank you everyone. You know, our senior

[1:05:19] report. Well, thank you everyone. You know, our senior lead officers, I mean, just

[1:05:21] everyone. You know, our senior lead officers, I mean, just

[1:05:21] everyone. You know, our senior lead officers, I mean, just speaking from, you know, our

[1:05:23] lead officers, I mean, just speaking from, you know, our

[1:05:23] lead officers, I mean, just speaking from, you know, our the ones that we have in

[1:05:24] speaking from, you know, our the ones that we have in

[1:05:24] speaking from, you know, our the ones that we have in Council district 12, they do

[1:05:26] the ones that we have in Council district 12, they do

[1:05:26] the ones that we have in Council district 12, they do such an amazing job at

[1:05:27] Council district 12, they do such an amazing job at

[1:05:27] Council district 12, they do such an amazing job at community relations. You know,

[1:05:29] such an amazing job at community relations. You know,

[1:05:29] such an amazing job at community relations. You know, for. For their different

[1:05:32] community relations. You know, for. For their different

[1:05:32] community relations. You know, for. For their different divisions and of course, LAPD.

[1:05:34] for. For their different divisions and of course, LAPD.

[1:05:34] for. For their different divisions and of course, LAPD. I mean, I feel like I can tell

[1:05:36] divisions and of course, LAPD. I mean, I feel like I can tell

[1:05:36] divisions and of course, LAPD. I mean, I feel like I can tell you exactly where we need

[1:05:37] I mean, I feel like I can tell you exactly where we need

[1:05:37] I mean, I feel like I can tell you exactly where we need another basic car, but, you

[1:05:38] you exactly where we need another basic car, but, you

[1:05:38] you exactly where we need another basic car, but, you know, we're happy to request

[1:05:41] another basic car, but, you know, we're happy to request

[1:05:41] another basic car, but, you know, we're happy to request that this be put in the mayor's

[1:05:43] know, we're happy to request that this be put in the mayor's

[1:05:43] know, we're happy to request that this be put in the mayor's budget with the cows. So I

[1:05:45] that this be put in the mayor's budget with the cows. So I

[1:05:45] that this be put in the mayor's budget with the cows. So I appreciate the report and

[1:05:47] budget with the cows. So I appreciate the report and

[1:05:47] budget with the cows. So I appreciate the report and hopefully the expansion right

[1:05:48] appreciate the report and hopefully the expansion right

[1:05:48] appreciate the report and hopefully the expansion right of the UMC. As Councilmember

[1:05:51] hopefully the expansion right of the UMC. As Councilmember

[1:05:51] hopefully the expansion right of the UMC. As Councilmember Martinez says, the, you know,

[1:05:53] of the UMC. As Councilmember Martinez says, the, you know,

[1:05:53] of the UMC. As Councilmember Martinez says, the, you know, with the success and expansion

[1:05:54] Martinez says, the, you know, with the success and expansion

[1:05:54] Martinez says, the, you know, with the success and expansion of that program, hopefully we

[1:05:56] with the success and expansion of that program, hopefully we

[1:05:56] with the success and expansion of that program, hopefully we can see some other ways to try

[1:05:58] of that program, hopefully we can see some other ways to try

[1:05:58] of that program, hopefully we can see some other ways to try to factor that into our basic

[1:06:01] can see some other ways to try to factor that into our basic

[1:06:01] can see some other ways to try to factor that into our basic cars and our obviously, our

[1:06:02] to factor that into our basic cars and our obviously, our

[1:06:03] to factor that into our basic cars and our obviously, our patrol cars. So thank you,

[1:06:04] cars and our obviously, our patrol cars. So thank you,

[1:06:04] cars and our obviously, our patrol cars. So thank you, chief. Thank you, commander.

[1:06:05] patrol cars. So thank you, chief. Thank you, commander.

[1:06:05] patrol cars. So thank you, chief. Thank you, commander. Sergeant Ed, thank you. Okay.

[1:06:09] chief. Thank you, commander. Sergeant Ed, thank you. Okay.

[1:06:09] chief. Thank you, commander. Sergeant Ed, thank you. Okay. So I'd like to colleagues, I'd

[1:06:11] Sergeant Ed, thank you. Okay. So I'd like to colleagues, I'd

[1:06:11] Sergeant Ed, thank you. Okay. So I'd like to colleagues, I'd like to recommend that we note

[1:06:12] So I'd like to colleagues, I'd like to recommend that we note

[1:06:12] So I'd like to colleagues, I'd like to recommend that we note and file the report and request

[1:06:14] like to recommend that we note and file the report and request

[1:06:14] like to recommend that we note and file the report and request that the mayor and CEO to

[1:06:16] and file the report and request that the mayor and CEO to

[1:06:16] and file the report and request that the mayor and CEO to include funding for new basic

[1:06:18] that the mayor and CEO to include funding for new basic

[1:06:18] that the mayor and CEO to include funding for new basic car plan, request RFP in the

[1:06:21] include funding for new basic car plan, request RFP in the

[1:06:21] include funding for new basic car plan, request RFP in the mayor's 2627 proposed budget.

[1:06:24] car plan, request RFP in the mayor's 2627 proposed budget.

[1:06:24] car plan, request RFP in the mayor's 2627 proposed budget. With that, madam clerk, can you

[1:06:25] mayor's 2627 proposed budget. With that, madam clerk, can you

[1:06:26] mayor's 2627 proposed budget. With that, madam clerk, can you please call the roll? Council

[1:06:27] With that, madam clerk, can you please call the roll? Council

[1:06:27] With that, madam clerk, can you please call the roll? Council member Lee aye. Council member

[1:06:29] please call the roll? Council member Lee aye. Council member

[1:06:29] please call the roll? Council member Lee aye. Council member Price Price. Absent. Council

[1:06:30] member Lee aye. Council member Price Price. Absent. Council

[1:06:30] member Lee aye. Council member Price Price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council

[1:06:32] Price Price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council

[1:06:32] Price Price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Martinez. Yes. Council

[1:06:34] member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Martinez. Yes. Council

[1:06:34] member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four eyes.

[1:06:36] member. Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four eyes.

[1:06:36] member. Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item will be noted and

[1:06:38] member. Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item will be noted and

[1:06:39] member. Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item will be noted and filed. All right. Thank you so

[1:06:40] This item will be noted and filed. All right. Thank you so

[1:06:40] This item will be noted and filed. All right. Thank you so much for joining us today. I

[1:06:41] filed. All right. Thank you so much for joining us today. I

[1:06:41] filed. All right. Thank you so much for joining us today. I think we need to go back real

[1:06:43] much for joining us today. I think we need to go back real

[1:06:43] much for joining us today. I think we need to go back real quickly to item number three.

[1:06:45] think we need to go back real quickly to item number three.

[1:06:45] think we need to go back real quickly to item number three. Madam Clerk, there was an

[1:06:46] quickly to item number three. Madam Clerk, there was an

[1:06:46] quickly to item number three. Madam Clerk, there was an amendment to that. Can you

[1:06:47] Madam Clerk, there was an amendment to that. Can you

[1:06:47] Madam Clerk, there was an amendment to that. Can you please read that into the

[1:06:48] amendment to that. Can you please read that into the

[1:06:48] amendment to that. Can you please read that into the record? The amendment would be

[1:06:50] please read that into the record? The amendment would be

[1:06:50] please read that into the record? The amendment would be to add the additional following

[1:06:53] record? The amendment would be to add the additional following

[1:06:53] record? The amendment would be to add the additional following instructions to instruct the

[1:06:54] to add the additional following instructions to instruct the

[1:06:54] to add the additional following instructions to instruct the fire Department and Department

[1:06:55] instructions to instruct the fire Department and Department

[1:06:55] instructions to instruct the fire Department and Department of Building and Safety, in

[1:06:57] fire Department and Department of Building and Safety, in

[1:06:57] fire Department and Department of Building and Safety, in consultation with the office of

[1:06:58] of Building and Safety, in consultation with the office of

[1:06:58] of Building and Safety, in consultation with the office of the City Attorney, to report on

[1:07:00] consultation with the office of the City Attorney, to report on

[1:07:00] consultation with the office of the City Attorney, to report on the process for determining and

[1:07:02] the City Attorney, to report on the process for determining and

[1:07:02] the City Attorney, to report on the process for determining and documenting that the materials

[1:07:03] the process for determining and documenting that the materials

[1:07:03] the process for determining and documenting that the materials identified for removal in these

[1:07:05] documenting that the materials identified for removal in these

[1:07:05] documenting that the materials identified for removal in these hillside very high fire

[1:07:06] identified for removal in these hillside very high fire

[1:07:07] identified for removal in these hillside very high fire severity zones do, in fact pose

[1:07:09] hillside very high fire severity zones do, in fact pose

[1:07:09] hillside very high fire severity zones do, in fact pose a fire hazard. If I can have a

[1:07:11] severity zones do, in fact pose a fire hazard. If I can have a

[1:07:11] severity zones do, in fact pose a fire hazard. If I can have a second for this second. And we

[1:07:17] a fire hazard. If I can have a second for this second. And we

[1:07:17] a fire hazard. If I can have a second for this second. And we will retake the vote for item

[1:07:20] second for this second. And we will retake the vote for item

[1:07:20] second for this second. And we will retake the vote for item three. Okay. Council member Lee.

[1:07:22] will retake the vote for item three. Okay. Council member Lee.

[1:07:22] will retake the vote for item three. Okay. Council member Lee. Aye. Council member price.

[1:07:23] three. Okay. Council member Lee. Aye. Council member price.

[1:07:24] three. Okay. Council member Lee. Aye. Council member price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker.

[1:07:25] Aye. Council member price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker.

[1:07:25] Aye. Council member price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Soto.

[1:07:26] Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Soto.

[1:07:26] Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Soto. Martinez. Yes. Council member.

[1:07:28] Yes. Council member. Soto. Martinez. Yes. Council member.

[1:07:28] Yes. Council member. Soto. Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item

[1:07:30] Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item

[1:07:30] Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item is approved, as amended. All

[1:07:31] Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item is approved, as amended. All

[1:07:31] Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item is approved, as amended. All right, Madam Clerk, are there

[1:07:33] is approved, as amended. All right, Madam Clerk, are there

[1:07:33] is approved, as amended. All right, Madam Clerk, are there any other items to consider?

[1:07:34] right, Madam Clerk, are there any other items to consider?

[1:07:34] right, Madam Clerk, are there any other items to consider? The desk is clear. Then this

[1:07:35] any other items to consider? The desk is clear. Then this

[1:07:35] any other items to consider? The desk is clear. Then this meeting is adjourned. You said

[1:07:38] The desk is clear. Then this meeting is adjourned. You said

[1:07:38] The desk is clear. Then this meeting is adjourned. You said you knew where the car should.

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