[0:03] and I'd like to welcome

[0:04] and I'd like to welcome

[0:04] and I'd like to welcome everyone to the Transportation

[0:07] and I'd like to welcome everyone to the Transportation

[0:07] and I'd like to welcome everyone to the Transportation Committee and joint special

[0:09] everyone to the Transportation Committee and joint special

[0:09] everyone to the Transportation Committee and joint special meeting with the Public Works.

[0:11] Committee and joint special meeting with the Public Works.

[0:11] Committee and joint special meeting with the Public Works. I'm Councilwoman Heather chair,

[0:14] meeting with the Public Works. I'm Councilwoman Heather chair,

[0:14] meeting with the Public Works. I'm Councilwoman Heather chair, transportation, and I'm joined

[0:15] I'm Councilwoman Heather chair, transportation, and I'm joined

[0:15] I'm Councilwoman Heather chair, transportation, and I'm joined by council members Hernandez

[0:18] transportation, and I'm joined by council members Hernandez

[0:18] transportation, and I'm joined by council members Hernandez and Padilla. And Mr. Clark, can

[0:21] by council members Hernandez and Padilla. And Mr. Clark, can

[0:21] by council members Hernandez and Padilla. And Mr. Clark, can you please call the roll so

[0:23] and Padilla. And Mr. Clark, can you please call the roll so

[0:23] and Padilla. And Mr. Clark, can you please call the roll so that we can get started? Very

[0:25] you please call the roll so that we can get started? Very

[0:25] you please call the roll so that we can get started? Very good. Okay. For transportation

[0:28] that we can get started? Very good. Okay. For transportation

[0:28] that we can get started? Very good. Okay. For transportation committee, Council member hood

[0:30] good. Okay. For transportation committee, Council member hood

[0:30] good. Okay. For transportation committee, Council member hood here. Councilmember Park.

[0:32] committee, Council member hood here. Councilmember Park.

[0:32] committee, Council member hood here. Councilmember Park. Present. Okay. Council member.

[0:35] here. Councilmember Park. Present. Okay. Council member.

[0:35] here. Councilmember Park. Present. Okay. Council member. Hernandez. Present. Council

[0:37] Present. Okay. Council member. Hernandez. Present. Council

[0:37] Present. Okay. Council member. Hernandez. Present. Council member. Padilla. Present. And

[0:39] Hernandez. Present. Council member. Padilla. Present. And

[0:39] Hernandez. Present. Council member. Padilla. Present. And Council member. Nazarian. Okay.

[0:42] member. Padilla. Present. And Council member. Nazarian. Okay.

[0:42] member. Padilla. Present. And Council member. Nazarian. Okay. For Public Works Committee.

[0:43] Council member. Nazarian. Okay. For Public Works Committee.

[0:43] Council member. Nazarian. Okay. For Public Works Committee. Council member. Hernandez

[0:45] For Public Works Committee. Council member. Hernandez

[0:45] For Public Works Committee. Council member. Hernandez present. Council member.

[0:47] Council member. Hernandez present. Council member.

[0:47] Council member. Hernandez present. Council member. Padilla. President and council

[0:49] present. Council member. Padilla. President and council

[0:49] present. Council member. Padilla. President and council member. Hutt. Here. Very good.

[0:52] Padilla. President and council member. Hutt. Here. Very good.

[0:52] Padilla. President and council member. Hutt. Here. Very good. Thank you so much, Mr. Clerk.

[0:54] member. Hutt. Here. Very good. Thank you so much, Mr. Clerk.

[0:54] member. Hutt. Here. Very good. Thank you so much, Mr. Clerk. Today we have members. We have

[0:57] Thank you so much, Mr. Clerk. Today we have members. We have

[0:57] Thank you so much, Mr. Clerk. Today we have members. We have six items on the Transportation

[1:00] Today we have members. We have six items on the Transportation

[1:00] Today we have members. We have six items on the Transportation Committee agenda and three

[1:02] six items on the Transportation Committee agenda and three

[1:02] six items on the Transportation Committee agenda and three items before both committees.

[1:04] Committee agenda and three items before both committees.

[1:04] Committee agenda and three items before both committees. I'd also like to announce that

[1:05] items before both committees. I'd also like to announce that

[1:06] items before both committees. I'd also like to announce that we will be continuing item

[1:07] I'd also like to announce that we will be continuing item

[1:07] I'd also like to announce that we will be continuing item eight to a date to be

[1:10] we will be continuing item eight to a date to be

[1:10] we will be continuing item eight to a date to be determined. And before we get

[1:12] eight to a date to be determined. And before we get

[1:12] eight to a date to be determined. And before we get to the items, Madam Clerk,

[1:13] determined. And before we get to the items, Madam Clerk,

[1:13] determined. And before we get to the items, Madam Clerk, please read any amendments we

[1:15] to the items, Madam Clerk, please read any amendments we

[1:15] to the items, Madam Clerk, please read any amendments we have into the record. Yes,

[1:17] please read any amendments we have into the record. Yes,

[1:17] please read any amendments we have into the record. Yes, Madam Chair, we have several

[1:18] have into the record. Yes, Madam Chair, we have several

[1:18] have into the record. Yes, Madam Chair, we have several amendments. I will start with

[1:21] Madam Chair, we have several amendments. I will start with

[1:21] Madam Chair, we have several amendments. I will start with item two. This is an amendment

[1:23] amendments. I will start with item two. This is an amendment

[1:23] amendments. I will start with item two. This is an amendment from Council District one. The

[1:25] item two. This is an amendment from Council District one. The

[1:25] item two. This is an amendment from Council District one. The amendment reads as follows. The

[1:28] from Council District one. The amendment reads as follows. The

[1:28] from Council District one. The amendment reads as follows. The following instructions to the

[1:31] amendment reads as follows. The following instructions to the

[1:31] amendment reads as follows. The following instructions to the recommendations. Request the

[1:31] following instructions to the recommendations. Request the

[1:32] following instructions to the recommendations. Request the City Attorney, in consultation

[1:33] recommendations. Request the City Attorney, in consultation

[1:33] recommendations. Request the City Attorney, in consultation with the Los Angeles Department

[1:35] City Attorney, in consultation with the Los Angeles Department

[1:35] City Attorney, in consultation with the Los Angeles Department of Transportation, to report

[1:37] with the Los Angeles Department of Transportation, to report

[1:37] with the Los Angeles Department of Transportation, to report back on any legislation the

[1:38] of Transportation, to report back on any legislation the

[1:38] of Transportation, to report back on any legislation the city may support to strengthen

[1:40] back on any legislation the city may support to strengthen

[1:40] back on any legislation the city may support to strengthen local jurisdiction authority to

[1:42] city may support to strengthen local jurisdiction authority to

[1:42] city may support to strengthen local jurisdiction authority to approve, condition or regulate

[1:44] local jurisdiction authority to approve, condition or regulate

[1:44] local jurisdiction authority to approve, condition or regulate autonomous vehicle operations.

[1:46] approve, condition or regulate autonomous vehicle operations.

[1:46] approve, condition or regulate autonomous vehicle operations. The report should also include

[1:49] autonomous vehicle operations. The report should also include

[1:49] autonomous vehicle operations. The report should also include recommendations for potential

[1:50] The report should also include recommendations for potential

[1:50] The report should also include recommendations for potential changes to state and federal

[1:52] recommendations for potential changes to state and federal

[1:52] recommendations for potential changes to state and federal law. The next amendment is for

[1:55] changes to state and federal law. The next amendment is for

[1:55] changes to state and federal law. The next amendment is for item three. That's Council file

[1:59] law. The next amendment is for item three. That's Council file

[1:59] law. The next amendment is for item three. That's Council file 25-1481. These are

[2:01] item three. That's Council file 25-1481. These are

[2:01] item three. That's Council file 25-1481. These are recommendations of the chair.

[2:02] 25-1481. These are recommendations of the chair.

[2:02] 25-1481. These are recommendations of the chair. The recommendation reads as

[2:04] recommendations of the chair. The recommendation reads as

[2:04] recommendations of the chair. The recommendation reads as follows. Adopt the motion, as

[2:06] The recommendation reads as follows. Adopt the motion, as

[2:06] The recommendation reads as follows. Adopt the motion, as amended to add the following

[2:08] follows. Adopt the motion, as amended to add the following

[2:09] follows. Adopt the motion, as amended to add the following instruction. Transfer slash

[2:11] amended to add the following instruction. Transfer slash

[2:11] amended to add the following instruction. Transfer slash appropriate $100,000 from the

[2:13] instruction. Transfer slash appropriate $100,000 from the

[2:13] instruction. Transfer slash appropriate $100,000 from the Road Maintenance and

[2:14] appropriate $100,000 from the Road Maintenance and

[2:14] appropriate $100,000 from the Road Maintenance and Rehabilitation Special Fund, or

[2:16] Road Maintenance and Rehabilitation Special Fund, or

[2:16] Road Maintenance and Rehabilitation Special Fund, or SB 1-1 fund. Number 59. Dash

[2:21] Rehabilitation Special Fund, or SB 1-1 fund. Number 59. Dash

[2:21] Rehabilitation Special Fund, or SB 1-1 fund. Number 59. Dash five zero. Account number 50 c

[2:25] SB 1-1 fund. Number 59. Dash five zero. Account number 50 c

[2:25] SB 1-1 fund. Number 59. Dash five zero. Account number 50 c z e l mission Miles Sepulveda

[2:28] five zero. Account number 50 c z e l mission Miles Sepulveda

[2:28] five zero. Account number 50 c z e l mission Miles Sepulveda visioning for a safe and Active

[2:30] z e l mission Miles Sepulveda visioning for a safe and Active

[2:30] z e l mission Miles Sepulveda visioning for a safe and Active community to the Bureau of

[2:32] visioning for a safe and Active community to the Bureau of

[2:32] visioning for a safe and Active community to the Bureau of Street Lighting Fund number 184,

[2:36] community to the Bureau of Street Lighting Fund number 184,

[2:36] community to the Bureau of Street Lighting Fund number 184, as specified below. Account

[2:38] Street Lighting Fund number 184, as specified below. Account

[2:38] Street Lighting Fund number 184, as specified below. Account number 001010. Salaries general

[2:43] as specified below. Account number 001010. Salaries general

[2:43] as specified below. Account number 001010. Salaries general $70,000. Account number 001090.

[2:47] number 001010. Salaries general $70,000. Account number 001090.

[2:47] number 001010. Salaries general $70,000. Account number 001090. Salaries over time $30,000. The

[2:53] $70,000. Account number 001090. Salaries over time $30,000. The

[2:53] $70,000. Account number 001090. Salaries over time $30,000. The next. The next amendment we

[2:56] Salaries over time $30,000. The next. The next amendment we

[2:56] Salaries over time $30,000. The next. The next amendment we have is for item nine from

[2:58] next. The next amendment we have is for item nine from

[2:58] next. The next amendment we have is for item nine from Council District one, and it

[3:02] have is for item nine from Council District one, and it

[3:02] have is for item nine from Council District one, and it reads as follows. Instruct the

[3:05] Council District one, and it reads as follows. Instruct the

[3:05] Council District one, and it reads as follows. Instruct the Los Angeles Department of

[3:06] reads as follows. Instruct the Los Angeles Department of

[3:06] reads as follows. Instruct the Los Angeles Department of Transportation, in consultation

[3:08] Los Angeles Department of Transportation, in consultation

[3:08] Los Angeles Department of Transportation, in consultation with the City Administrative

[3:10] Transportation, in consultation with the City Administrative

[3:10] Transportation, in consultation with the City Administrative officer and the City Attorney,

[3:11] with the City Administrative officer and the City Attorney,

[3:11] with the City Administrative officer and the City Attorney, to report back on the

[3:13] officer and the City Attorney, to report back on the

[3:13] officer and the City Attorney, to report back on the feasibility of implementing a

[3:14] to report back on the feasibility of implementing a

[3:14] to report back on the feasibility of implementing a tiered permit structure that

[3:16] feasibility of implementing a tiered permit structure that

[3:16] feasibility of implementing a tiered permit structure that scales permit fees based on

[3:18] tiered permit structure that scales permit fees based on

[3:18] tiered permit structure that scales permit fees based on operator size, including an

[3:20] scales permit fees based on operator size, including an

[3:20] scales permit fees based on operator size, including an option for smaller operators to

[3:22] operator size, including an option for smaller operators to

[3:22] operator size, including an option for smaller operators to pay a lower permit fee as part

[3:24] option for smaller operators to pay a lower permit fee as part

[3:24] option for smaller operators to pay a lower permit fee as part of the next interaction of the

[3:26] pay a lower permit fee as part of the next interaction of the

[3:26] pay a lower permit fee as part of the next interaction of the on demand Mobility Program

[3:28] of the next interaction of the on demand Mobility Program

[3:28] of the next interaction of the on demand Mobility Program update. To instruct the Ladot

[3:31] on demand Mobility Program update. To instruct the Ladot

[3:31] on demand Mobility Program update. To instruct the Ladot and CEO to provide a verbal

[3:33] update. To instruct the Ladot and CEO to provide a verbal

[3:33] update. To instruct the Ladot and CEO to provide a verbal report in six months, and

[3:35] and CEO to provide a verbal report in six months, and

[3:35] and CEO to provide a verbal report in six months, and present to the Public Works and

[3:36] report in six months, and present to the Public Works and

[3:36] report in six months, and present to the Public Works and Transportation Committee a

[3:38] present to the Public Works and Transportation Committee a

[3:38] present to the Public Works and Transportation Committee a status update on the on demand

[3:40] Transportation Committee a status update on the on demand

[3:40] Transportation Committee a status update on the on demand mobility program, including but

[3:41] status update on the on demand mobility program, including but

[3:41] status update on the on demand mobility program, including but not limited to, total revenue

[3:45] mobility program, including but not limited to, total revenue

[3:45] mobility program, including but not limited to, total revenue collected per geographic

[3:46] not limited to, total revenue collected per geographic

[3:46] not limited to, total revenue collected per geographic categories. Average number of

[3:48] collected per geographic categories. Average number of

[3:48] collected per geographic categories. Average number of 311 requests per geographic

[3:50] categories. Average number of 311 requests per geographic

[3:50] categories. Average number of 311 requests per geographic categories. Average number of

[3:52] 311 requests per geographic categories. Average number of

[3:52] 311 requests per geographic categories. Average number of trips per geographic and number

[3:55] categories. Average number of trips per geographic and number

[3:55] categories. Average number of trips per geographic and number of scooters deployed, and three.

[3:58] trips per geographic and number of scooters deployed, and three.

[3:58] trips per geographic and number of scooters deployed, and three. Instruct Ladot and CEO to

[4:00] of scooters deployed, and three. Instruct Ladot and CEO to

[4:00] of scooters deployed, and three. Instruct Ladot and CEO to report in one year to

[4:02] Instruct Ladot and CEO to report in one year to

[4:02] Instruct Ladot and CEO to report in one year to reevaluate the on demand

[4:03] report in one year to reevaluate the on demand

[4:03] report in one year to reevaluate the on demand mobility program per trip fee

[4:05] reevaluate the on demand mobility program per trip fee

[4:05] reevaluate the on demand mobility program per trip fee structure and permit fees

[4:07] mobility program per trip fee structure and permit fees

[4:07] mobility program per trip fee structure and permit fees consistent with prop 26. And

[4:11] structure and permit fees consistent with prop 26. And

[4:11] structure and permit fees consistent with prop 26. And lastly, we have an amendment

[4:15] consistent with prop 26. And lastly, we have an amendment

[4:15] consistent with prop 26. And lastly, we have an amendment for item nine as well. From the

[4:18] lastly, we have an amendment for item nine as well. From the

[4:19] lastly, we have an amendment for item nine as well. From the chair. The amendment reads as

[4:21] for item nine as well. From the chair. The amendment reads as

[4:21] for item nine as well. From the chair. The amendment reads as follows. Adopt the following in

[4:23] chair. The amendment reads as follows. Adopt the following in

[4:23] chair. The amendment reads as follows. Adopt the following in lieu of the recommendations

[4:25] follows. Adopt the following in lieu of the recommendations

[4:25] follows. Adopt the following in lieu of the recommendations listed in the June 10th, 2025

[4:27] lieu of the recommendations listed in the June 10th, 2025

[4:28] lieu of the recommendations listed in the June 10th, 2025 LADOT report one. Find that

[4:30] listed in the June 10th, 2025 LADOT report one. Find that

[4:30] listed in the June 10th, 2025 LADOT report one. Find that there is a clear public benefit

[4:32] LADOT report one. Find that there is a clear public benefit

[4:32] LADOT report one. Find that there is a clear public benefit to waive the additional fee for

[4:33] there is a clear public benefit to waive the additional fee for

[4:33] there is a clear public benefit to waive the additional fee for the equity focused Mobility

[4:35] to waive the additional fee for the equity focused Mobility

[4:35] to waive the additional fee for the equity focused Mobility Development districts. Two.

[4:37] the equity focused Mobility Development districts. Two.

[4:37] the equity focused Mobility Development districts. Two. Approve the proposed trip fee

[4:39] Development districts. Two. Approve the proposed trip fee

[4:39] Development districts. Two. Approve the proposed trip fee update. See attachment to the

[4:42] Approve the proposed trip fee update. See attachment to the

[4:42] Approve the proposed trip fee update. See attachment to the rules and guidelines of the

[4:43] update. See attachment to the rules and guidelines of the

[4:43] update. See attachment to the rules and guidelines of the program related to the four on

[4:45] rules and guidelines of the program related to the four on

[4:45] rules and guidelines of the program related to the four on demand mobility program.

[4:47] program related to the four on demand mobility program.

[4:47] program related to the four on demand mobility program. Geographies based on the city

[4:50] demand mobility program. Geographies based on the city

[4:50] demand mobility program. Geographies based on the city Administrative officers or

[4:51] Geographies based on the city Administrative officers or

[4:51] Geographies based on the city Administrative officers or CEO's methodology, including a

[4:54] Administrative officers or CEO's methodology, including a

[4:54] Administrative officers or CEO's methodology, including a $150,000 permit fee. And

[4:57] CEO's methodology, including a $150,000 permit fee. And

[4:57] CEO's methodology, including a $150,000 permit fee. And instruct the CEO to report to

[4:58] $150,000 permit fee. And instruct the CEO to report to

[4:58] $150,000 permit fee. And instruct the CEO to report to the Budget and Finance

[5:00] instruct the CEO to report to the Budget and Finance

[5:00] instruct the CEO to report to the Budget and Finance Committee prior to adoption of

[5:01] the Budget and Finance Committee prior to adoption of

[5:01] the Budget and Finance Committee prior to adoption of these recommendations, with an

[5:03] Committee prior to adoption of these recommendations, with an

[5:04] Committee prior to adoption of these recommendations, with an analysis of the recommended

[5:05] these recommendations, with an analysis of the recommended

[5:05] these recommendations, with an analysis of the recommended trip for update, including

[5:07] analysis of the recommended trip for update, including

[5:07] analysis of the recommended trip for update, including authorizing the CEO to make

[5:08] trip for update, including authorizing the CEO to make

[5:09] trip for update, including authorizing the CEO to make technical adjustments to their

[5:11] authorizing the CEO to make technical adjustments to their

[5:11] authorizing the CEO to make technical adjustments to their analysis to meet the intent of

[5:12] technical adjustments to their analysis to meet the intent of

[5:12] technical adjustments to their analysis to meet the intent of the committee's recommendations.

[5:15] analysis to meet the intent of the committee's recommendations.

[5:15] analysis to meet the intent of the committee's recommendations. Three request the City

[5:16] the committee's recommendations. Three request the City

[5:17] the committee's recommendations. Three request the City Attorney's Office to prepare

[5:18] Three request the City Attorney's Office to prepare

[5:18] Three request the City Attorney's Office to prepare and present a draft ordinance

[5:19] Attorney's Office to prepare and present a draft ordinance

[5:19] Attorney's Office to prepare and present a draft ordinance to update the trip fees and any

[5:21] and present a draft ordinance to update the trip fees and any

[5:22] and present a draft ordinance to update the trip fees and any related items in this report.

[5:24] to update the trip fees and any related items in this report.

[5:24] to update the trip fees and any related items in this report. Further requests the City

[5:25] related items in this report. Further requests the City

[5:25] related items in this report. Further requests the City Attorney's Office to include

[5:27] Further requests the City Attorney's Office to include

[5:27] Further requests the City Attorney's Office to include language to prevent

[5:29] Attorney's Office to include language to prevent

[5:29] Attorney's Office to include language to prevent overcollection by requiring

[5:30] language to prevent overcollection by requiring

[5:31] language to prevent overcollection by requiring quarterly reviews and reports

[5:32] overcollection by requiring quarterly reviews and reports

[5:32] overcollection by requiring quarterly reviews and reports to council, and instituting

[5:34] quarterly reviews and reports to council, and instituting

[5:34] quarterly reviews and reports to council, and instituting corrective measures when needed.

[5:36] to council, and instituting corrective measures when needed.

[5:36] to council, and instituting corrective measures when needed. Corrective measures shall

[5:38] corrective measures when needed. Corrective measures shall

[5:38] corrective measures when needed. Corrective measures shall include, but are not limited to,

[5:40] Corrective measures shall include, but are not limited to,

[5:40] Corrective measures shall include, but are not limited to, refunds issued to operators on

[5:41] include, but are not limited to, refunds issued to operators on

[5:41] include, but are not limited to, refunds issued to operators on a regular basis. A credit

[5:43] refunds issued to operators on a regular basis. A credit

[5:43] refunds issued to operators on a regular basis. A credit issued toward fees imposed in

[5:45] a regular basis. A credit issued toward fees imposed in

[5:45] a regular basis. A credit issued toward fees imposed in future budget cycles, or a

[5:47] issued toward fees imposed in future budget cycles, or a

[5:47] issued toward fees imposed in future budget cycles, or a mid-year one time adjustment to

[5:49] future budget cycles, or a mid-year one time adjustment to

[5:49] future budget cycles, or a mid-year one time adjustment to per trip fees for instruct

[5:52] mid-year one time adjustment to per trip fees for instruct

[5:52] mid-year one time adjustment to per trip fees for instruct ladot with the assistance of

[5:53] per trip fees for instruct ladot with the assistance of

[5:53] per trip fees for instruct ladot with the assistance of the City Attorney's Office and

[5:55] ladot with the assistance of the City Attorney's Office and

[5:55] ladot with the assistance of the City Attorney's Office and the CEO to report with an

[5:57] the City Attorney's Office and the CEO to report with an

[5:57] the City Attorney's Office and the CEO to report with an analysis and recommendations

[5:58] the CEO to report with an analysis and recommendations

[5:58] the CEO to report with an analysis and recommendations for appropriate penalties to

[6:00] analysis and recommendations for appropriate penalties to

[6:00] analysis and recommendations for appropriate penalties to issue an administrative

[6:02] for appropriate penalties to issue an administrative

[6:02] for appropriate penalties to issue an administrative citation to any company

[6:04] issue an administrative citation to any company

[6:04] issue an administrative citation to any company operating dockless scooters and

[6:06] citation to any company operating dockless scooters and

[6:06] citation to any company operating dockless scooters and bicycles on the public right of

[6:08] operating dockless scooters and bicycles on the public right of

[6:08] operating dockless scooters and bicycles on the public right of way without a permit, and the

[6:11] bicycles on the public right of way without a permit, and the

[6:11] bicycles on the public right of way without a permit, and the financial impact to the on

[6:12] way without a permit, and the financial impact to the on

[6:12] way without a permit, and the financial impact to the on demand mobility program. Five

[6:15] financial impact to the on demand mobility program. Five

[6:15] financial impact to the on demand mobility program. Five instruct Ladot, with the

[6:17] demand mobility program. Five instruct Ladot, with the

[6:17] demand mobility program. Five instruct Ladot, with the assistance of the City

[6:18] instruct Ladot, with the assistance of the City

[6:18] instruct Ladot, with the assistance of the City Attorney's Office and the

[6:19] assistance of the City Attorney's Office and the

[6:19] assistance of the City Attorney's Office and the Department of Public Works, to

[6:20] Attorney's Office and the Department of Public Works, to

[6:20] Attorney's Office and the Department of Public Works, to report on a plan to impound,

[6:22] Department of Public Works, to report on a plan to impound,

[6:22] Department of Public Works, to report on a plan to impound, remove, and store micromobility

[6:25] report on a plan to impound, remove, and store micromobility

[6:25] report on a plan to impound, remove, and store micromobility devices from the public right

[6:26] remove, and store micromobility devices from the public right

[6:26] remove, and store micromobility devices from the public right of way, including possible

[6:28] devices from the public right of way, including possible

[6:28] devices from the public right of way, including possible procedures that would allow for

[6:30] of way, including possible procedures that would allow for

[6:30] of way, including possible procedures that would allow for immediate or streamlined

[6:32] procedures that would allow for immediate or streamlined

[6:32] procedures that would allow for immediate or streamlined removal and disposal of said

[6:34] immediate or streamlined removal and disposal of said

[6:35] immediate or streamlined removal and disposal of said devices by Ladot transportation

[6:38] removal and disposal of said devices by Ladot transportation

[6:38] removal and disposal of said devices by Ladot transportation investigators and six note and

[6:41] devices by Ladot transportation investigators and six note and

[6:41] devices by Ladot transportation investigators and six note and file the Ladot report dated

[6:43] investigators and six note and file the Ladot report dated

[6:43] investigators and six note and file the Ladot report dated September 15th, 2025. The CEO

[6:46] file the Ladot report dated September 15th, 2025. The CEO

[6:46] file the Ladot report dated September 15th, 2025. The CEO report dated December 3rd, 2025,

[6:49] September 15th, 2025. The CEO report dated December 3rd, 2025,

[6:49] September 15th, 2025. The CEO report dated December 3rd, 2025, and the City Attorney Report

[6:51] report dated December 3rd, 2025, and the City Attorney Report

[6:51] report dated December 3rd, 2025, and the City Attorney Report and draft Ordinance dated

[6:53] and the City Attorney Report and draft Ordinance dated

[6:53] and the City Attorney Report and draft Ordinance dated January 18th, 2024. Thank you

[6:57] and draft Ordinance dated January 18th, 2024. Thank you

[6:57] and draft Ordinance dated January 18th, 2024. Thank you so much for reading those

[6:59] January 18th, 2024. Thank you so much for reading those

[6:59] January 18th, 2024. Thank you so much for reading those amendments. Now it's time for

[7:01] so much for reading those amendments. Now it's time for

[7:01] so much for reading those amendments. Now it's time for us to move to. May I just make

[7:04] amendments. Now it's time for us to move to. May I just make

[7:04] amendments. Now it's time for us to move to. May I just make one change on one of the

[7:05] us to move to. May I just make one change on one of the

[7:05] us to move to. May I just make one change on one of the amendments on spelling? Oh,

[7:07] one change on one of the amendments on spelling? Oh,

[7:07] one change on one of the amendments on spelling? Oh, sure. So for my amendment for

[7:09] amendments on spelling? Oh, sure. So for my amendment for

[7:09] amendments on spelling? Oh, sure. So for my amendment for item nine, instruction one,

[7:12] sure. So for my amendment for item nine, instruction one,

[7:12] sure. So for my amendment for item nine, instruction one, it's next iteration, not

[7:15] item nine, instruction one, it's next iteration, not

[7:15] item nine, instruction one, it's next iteration, not interaction, please. Thank you,

[7:17] it's next iteration, not interaction, please. Thank you,

[7:17] it's next iteration, not interaction, please. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Now let's

[7:21] interaction, please. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Now let's

[7:21] interaction, please. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Now let's move on to public comment. Mr.

[7:23] thank you, thank you. Now let's move on to public comment. Mr.

[7:23] thank you, thank you. Now let's move on to public comment. Mr. clerk, can you please read the

[7:25] move on to public comment. Mr. clerk, can you please read the

[7:25] move on to public comment. Mr. clerk, can you please read the instructions for public comment?

[7:27] clerk, can you please read the instructions for public comment?

[7:27] clerk, can you please read the instructions for public comment? For those wishing to give

[7:28] instructions for public comment? For those wishing to give

[7:28] instructions for public comment? For those wishing to give public comment on the items on

[7:30] For those wishing to give public comment on the items on

[7:30] For those wishing to give public comment on the items on this agenda, you're given one

[7:32] public comment on the items on this agenda, you're given one

[7:32] public comment on the items on this agenda, you're given one minute per item for a maximum

[7:33] this agenda, you're given one minute per item for a maximum

[7:33] this agenda, you're given one minute per item for a maximum of two minutes. You may

[7:35] minute per item for a maximum of two minutes. You may

[7:35] minute per item for a maximum of two minutes. You may register at the kiosk in the

[7:37] of two minutes. You may register at the kiosk in the

[7:37] of two minutes. You may register at the kiosk in the back corner there. Additionally,

[7:38] register at the kiosk in the back corner there. Additionally,

[7:38] register at the kiosk in the back corner there. Additionally, one minute for general public

[7:40] back corner there. Additionally, one minute for general public

[7:40] back corner there. Additionally, one minute for general public comment. Thank you so much,

[7:45] one minute for general public comment. Thank you so much,

[7:45] one minute for general public comment. Thank you so much, Andrew. Will you please conduct

[7:46] comment. Thank you so much, Andrew. Will you please conduct

[7:46] comment. Thank you so much, Andrew. Will you please conduct public comment? Yes, Madam

[7:48] Andrew. Will you please conduct public comment? Yes, Madam

[7:48] Andrew. Will you please conduct public comment? Yes, Madam Chair, as of now we have three

[7:51] public comment? Yes, Madam Chair, as of now we have three

[7:51] public comment? Yes, Madam Chair, as of now we have three speakers. We have Donna

[7:53] Chair, as of now we have three speakers. We have Donna

[7:53] Chair, as of now we have three speakers. We have Donna Washington, Andrew Grebner and

[7:55] speakers. We have Donna Washington, Andrew Grebner and

[7:55] speakers. We have Donna Washington, Andrew Grebner and Alvin Fowler step up. And also

[7:57] Washington, Andrew Grebner and Alvin Fowler step up. And also

[7:57] Washington, Andrew Grebner and Alvin Fowler step up. And also Monica Delallo. Please state

[8:04] Alvin Fowler step up. And also Monica Delallo. Please state

[8:05] Alvin Fowler step up. And also Monica Delallo. Please state your name and the items that

[8:06] Monica Delallo. Please state your name and the items that

[8:06] Monica Delallo. Please state your name and the items that you'd like to speak on. Yes.

[8:12] your name and the items that you'd like to speak on. Yes.

[8:12] your name and the items that you'd like to speak on. Yes. Okay. Good morning, honorable

[8:14] you'd like to speak on. Yes. Okay. Good morning, honorable

[8:14] you'd like to speak on. Yes. Okay. Good morning, honorable council members. I'm Donna

[8:16] Okay. Good morning, honorable council members. I'm Donna

[8:16] Okay. Good morning, honorable council members. I'm Donna Washington from film LA.

[8:17] council members. I'm Donna Washington from film LA.

[8:17] council members. I'm Donna Washington from film LA. Actually, I was calling or

[8:18] Washington from film LA. Actually, I was calling or

[8:19] Washington from film LA. Actually, I was calling or coming to speak about item

[8:20] Actually, I was calling or coming to speak about item

[8:20] Actually, I was calling or coming to speak about item number eight, but I guess it's

[8:21] coming to speak about item number eight, but I guess it's

[8:22] coming to speak about item number eight, but I guess it's been suspended for now. So I

[8:23] number eight, but I guess it's been suspended for now. So I

[8:23] number eight, but I guess it's been suspended for now. So I will come back. Continue, I

[8:27] been suspended for now. So I will come back. Continue, I

[8:27] been suspended for now. So I will come back. Continue, I continue I know it's been

[8:28] will come back. Continue, I continue I know it's been

[8:28] will come back. Continue, I continue I know it's been continued. It's been continued.

[8:30] continue I know it's been continued. It's been continued.

[8:30] continue I know it's been continued. It's been continued. Okay. I will come back when it

[8:33] continued. It's been continued. Okay. I will come back when it

[8:33] continued. It's been continued. Okay. I will come back when it comes back on the agenda. Thank

[8:34] Okay. I will come back when it comes back on the agenda. Thank

[8:35] Okay. I will come back when it comes back on the agenda. Thank you. Thank you. Please state

[8:40] comes back on the agenda. Thank you. Thank you. Please state

[8:40] comes back on the agenda. Thank you. Thank you. Please state your name and the items you'd

[8:41] you. Thank you. Please state your name and the items you'd

[8:41] you. Thank you. Please state your name and the items you'd like to speak on. My name is

[8:43] your name and the items you'd like to speak on. My name is

[8:43] your name and the items you'd like to speak on. My name is Alvin Fowler. I'm the item I

[8:44] like to speak on. My name is Alvin Fowler. I'm the item I

[8:44] like to speak on. My name is Alvin Fowler. I'm the item I would like to speak on is about

[8:46] Alvin Fowler. I'm the item I would like to speak on is about

[8:46] Alvin Fowler. I'm the item I would like to speak on is about a handicap parking curb in

[8:48] would like to speak on is about a handicap parking curb in

[8:48] would like to speak on is about a handicap parking curb in front of my house, which I

[8:50] a handicap parking curb in front of my house, which I

[8:50] a handicap parking curb in front of my house, which I originally applied for February

[8:53] front of my house, which I originally applied for February

[8:53] front of my house, which I originally applied for February 18th, 2022. I have made

[8:57] originally applied for February 18th, 2022. I have made

[8:57] originally applied for February 18th, 2022. I have made repeated visits to Mccusker's

[9:00] 18th, 2022. I have made repeated visits to Mccusker's

[9:00] 18th, 2022. I have made repeated visits to Mccusker's office in San Pedro, spoken to

[9:03] repeated visits to Mccusker's office in San Pedro, spoken to

[9:03] repeated visits to Mccusker's office in San Pedro, spoken to the representative of his in

[9:07] office in San Pedro, spoken to the representative of his in

[9:07] office in San Pedro, spoken to the representative of his in the downtown office and got no

[9:10] the representative of his in the downtown office and got no

[9:10] the representative of his in the downtown office and got no response. I'm a 100% disabled

[9:13] the downtown office and got no response. I'm a 100% disabled

[9:13] the downtown office and got no response. I'm a 100% disabled veteran and I would appreciate

[9:15] response. I'm a 100% disabled veteran and I would appreciate

[9:15] response. I'm a 100% disabled veteran and I would appreciate somebody telling me when, if

[9:18] veteran and I would appreciate somebody telling me when, if

[9:18] veteran and I would appreciate somebody telling me when, if ever, I will receive a handicap

[9:21] somebody telling me when, if ever, I will receive a handicap

[9:21] somebody telling me when, if ever, I will receive a handicap curb in front of my my house.

[9:25] ever, I will receive a handicap curb in front of my my house.

[9:25] ever, I will receive a handicap curb in front of my my house. Sir, where do you where do you

[9:26] curb in front of my my house. Sir, where do you where do you

[9:26] curb in front of my my house. Sir, where do you where do you live? What neighborhood or what

[9:28] Sir, where do you where do you live? What neighborhood or what

[9:28] Sir, where do you where do you live? What neighborhood or what district? I'm. I it's

[9:33] live? What neighborhood or what district? I'm. I it's

[9:33] live? What neighborhood or what district? I'm. I it's Mccusker's district and I live

[9:36] district? I'm. I it's Mccusker's district and I live

[9:36] district? I'm. I it's Mccusker's district and I live in the city of of la strip in

[9:39] Mccusker's district and I live in the city of of la strip in

[9:39] Mccusker's district and I live in the city of of la strip in the city of Gardena. My address

[9:41] in the city of of la strip in the city of Gardena. My address

[9:41] in the city of of la strip in the city of Gardena. My address is 14313 Denver Avenue. Gardena,

[9:48] the city of Gardena. My address is 14313 Denver Avenue. Gardena,

[9:48] the city of Gardena. My address is 14313 Denver Avenue. Gardena, California. ZIP code is 90248.

[9:52] is 14313 Denver Avenue. Gardena, California. ZIP code is 90248.

[9:52] is 14313 Denver Avenue. Gardena, California. ZIP code is 90248. So I have copies of that

[9:54] California. ZIP code is 90248. So I have copies of that

[9:54] California. ZIP code is 90248. So I have copies of that person's going to come and get

[9:55] So I have copies of that person's going to come and get

[9:55] So I have copies of that person's going to come and get your personal information. Okay.

[10:00] person's going to come and get your personal information. Okay.

[10:00] person's going to come and get your personal information. Okay. Thank you. All items in general

[10:03] your personal information. Okay. Thank you. All items in general

[10:03] your personal information. Okay. Thank you. All items in general public comment three minutes.

[10:05] Thank you. All items in general public comment three minutes.

[10:05] Thank you. All items in general public comment three minutes. So we have item two which is

[10:09] public comment three minutes. So we have item two which is

[10:09] public comment three minutes. So we have item two which is regulation on autonomous

[10:12] So we have item two which is regulation on autonomous

[10:12] So we have item two which is regulation on autonomous vehicle operators. So you're

[10:15] regulation on autonomous vehicle operators. So you're

[10:15] regulation on autonomous vehicle operators. So you're mad that you don't have enough

[10:16] vehicle operators. So you're mad that you don't have enough

[10:16] vehicle operators. So you're mad that you don't have enough local control over this. These

[10:18] mad that you don't have enough local control over this. These

[10:18] mad that you don't have enough local control over this. These weird cars that run around and

[10:22] local control over this. These weird cars that run around and

[10:22] local control over this. These weird cars that run around and have questionable safety

[10:24] weird cars that run around and have questionable safety

[10:24] weird cars that run around and have questionable safety standards and get often cause

[10:26] have questionable safety standards and get often cause

[10:26] have questionable safety standards and get often cause issues out on the roads? Very

[10:29] standards and get often cause issues out on the roads? Very

[10:29] standards and get often cause issues out on the roads? Very weird. So we have items four,

[10:32] issues out on the roads? Very weird. So we have items four,

[10:32] issues out on the roads? Very weird. So we have items four, five and six which are RV ban

[10:35] weird. So we have items four, five and six which are RV ban

[10:35] weird. So we have items four, five and six which are RV ban motions from Monica Rodriguez.

[10:37] five and six which are RV ban motions from Monica Rodriguez.

[10:37] five and six which are RV ban motions from Monica Rodriguez. City staff are please. And

[10:39] motions from Monica Rodriguez. City staff are please. And

[10:39] motions from Monica Rodriguez. City staff are please. And Heather Hutch, the chair of

[10:40] City staff are please. And Heather Hutch, the chair of

[10:40] City staff are please. And Heather Hutch, the chair of this committee. So RV bans and

[10:43] Heather Hutch, the chair of this committee. So RV bans and

[10:43] Heather Hutch, the chair of this committee. So RV bans and other anti-homelessness stuff

[10:46] this committee. So RV bans and other anti-homelessness stuff

[10:46] this committee. So RV bans and other anti-homelessness stuff does not get people housing and

[10:48] other anti-homelessness stuff does not get people housing and

[10:48] other anti-homelessness stuff does not get people housing and does not get people services.

[10:50] does not get people housing and does not get people services.

[10:50] does not get people housing and does not get people services. It does not get people off the

[10:51] does not get people services. It does not get people off the

[10:51] does not get people services. It does not get people off the street, nor is it helpful to

[10:53] It does not get people off the street, nor is it helpful to

[10:53] It does not get people off the street, nor is it helpful to anyone other than rich people

[10:55] street, nor is it helpful to anyone other than rich people

[10:55] street, nor is it helpful to anyone other than rich people who don't want to see poor

[10:57] anyone other than rich people who don't want to see poor

[10:57] anyone other than rich people who don't want to see poor people out on the streets while

[10:58] who don't want to see poor people out on the streets while

[10:58] who don't want to see poor people out on the streets while they drive in their cars. So

[11:01] people out on the streets while they drive in their cars. So

[11:01] people out on the streets while they drive in their cars. So that's pretty much what 4 or 5

[11:03] they drive in their cars. So that's pretty much what 4 or 5

[11:03] they drive in their cars. So that's pretty much what 4 or 5 and six are. So these

[11:06] that's pretty much what 4 or 5 and six are. So these

[11:06] that's pretty much what 4 or 5 and six are. So these anti-homelessness stuff, again,

[11:08] and six are. So these anti-homelessness stuff, again,

[11:08] and six are. So these anti-homelessness stuff, again, this is not the answer. And

[11:11] anti-homelessness stuff, again, this is not the answer. And

[11:11] anti-homelessness stuff, again, this is not the answer. And it's anti-poor and it's

[11:15] this is not the answer. And it's anti-poor and it's

[11:15] this is not the answer. And it's anti-poor and it's violence towards unhoused

[11:16] it's anti-poor and it's violence towards unhoused

[11:16] it's anti-poor and it's violence towards unhoused people. So no, on 4 or 5 and

[11:20] violence towards unhoused people. So no, on 4 or 5 and

[11:21] violence towards unhoused people. So no, on 4 or 5 and six. So let's just go to

[11:23] people. So no, on 4 or 5 and six. So let's just go to

[11:23] people. So no, on 4 or 5 and six. So let's just go to general comment. So the again

[11:28] six. So let's just go to general comment. So the again

[11:28] six. So let's just go to general comment. So the again the city really needs to

[11:30] general comment. So the again the city really needs to

[11:30] general comment. So the again the city really needs to actually get with it on the

[11:32] the city really needs to actually get with it on the

[11:32] the city really needs to actually get with it on the mobility plan. You know this is

[11:35] actually get with it on the mobility plan. You know this is

[11:35] actually get with it on the mobility plan. You know this is your own mobility plan. This is

[11:37] mobility plan. You know this is your own mobility plan. This is

[11:37] mobility plan. You know this is your own mobility plan. This is what the city created. And then

[11:39] your own mobility plan. This is what the city created. And then

[11:39] your own mobility plan. This is what the city created. And then you decided you didn't want to

[11:41] what the city created. And then you decided you didn't want to

[11:41] what the city created. And then you decided you didn't want to follow it. So now now that

[11:43] you decided you didn't want to follow it. So now now that

[11:43] you decided you didn't want to follow it. So now now that you're required to follow it

[11:44] follow it. So now now that you're required to follow it

[11:45] follow it. So now now that you're required to follow it because of measure H la, now

[11:48] you're required to follow it because of measure H la, now

[11:48] you're required to follow it because of measure H la, now you're just trying to get

[11:50] because of measure H la, now you're just trying to get

[11:50] because of measure H la, now you're just trying to get around repaving by doing a

[11:53] you're just trying to get around repaving by doing a

[11:54] you're just trying to get around repaving by doing a different type of repaving that

[11:55] around repaving by doing a different type of repaving that

[11:55] around repaving by doing a different type of repaving that doesn't actually meet the

[11:58] different type of repaving that doesn't actually meet the

[11:58] different type of repaving that doesn't actually meet the standards from LA for a

[12:00] doesn't actually meet the standards from LA for a

[12:00] doesn't actually meet the standards from LA for a required mobility plan

[12:02] standards from LA for a required mobility plan

[12:02] standards from LA for a required mobility plan implementation, and your not

[12:05] required mobility plan implementation, and your not

[12:05] required mobility plan implementation, and your not even repaving streets half the

[12:07] implementation, and your not even repaving streets half the

[12:07] implementation, and your not even repaving streets half the time, just so you can avoid

[12:08] even repaving streets half the time, just so you can avoid

[12:08] even repaving streets half the time, just so you can avoid having to put in some bike

[12:10] time, just so you can avoid having to put in some bike

[12:10] time, just so you can avoid having to put in some bike lanes. That's what it that's

[12:12] having to put in some bike lanes. That's what it that's

[12:12] having to put in some bike lanes. That's what it that's what it's boiling down to. Of

[12:14] lanes. That's what it that's what it's boiling down to. Of

[12:14] lanes. That's what it that's what it's boiling down to. Of course, you don't even have the

[12:15] what it's boiling down to. Of course, you don't even have the

[12:15] what it's boiling down to. Of course, you don't even have the money to repave the streets

[12:17] course, you don't even have the money to repave the streets

[12:17] course, you don't even have the money to repave the streets since you gave it all to the

[12:18] money to repave the streets since you gave it all to the

[12:18] money to repave the streets since you gave it all to the LAPD. So yeah, it's let's

[12:22] since you gave it all to the LAPD. So yeah, it's let's

[12:22] since you gave it all to the LAPD. So yeah, it's let's implement the mobility plan.

[12:29] LAPD. So yeah, it's let's implement the mobility plan.

[12:29] LAPD. So yeah, it's let's implement the mobility plan. Next up we have Monica Kiley

[12:32] implement the mobility plan. Next up we have Monica Kiley

[12:32] implement the mobility plan. Next up we have Monica Kiley and Yolanda Logan. Good morning.

[12:35] Next up we have Monica Kiley and Yolanda Logan. Good morning.

[12:35] Next up we have Monica Kiley and Yolanda Logan. Good morning. My name is Monica. I'm speaking

[12:37] and Yolanda Logan. Good morning. My name is Monica. I'm speaking

[12:37] and Yolanda Logan. Good morning. My name is Monica. I'm speaking on behalf of lime on item nine.

[12:39] My name is Monica. I'm speaking on behalf of lime on item nine.

[12:39] My name is Monica. I'm speaking on behalf of lime on item nine. Thank you so much for your time.

[12:40] on behalf of lime on item nine. Thank you so much for your time.

[12:41] on behalf of lime on item nine. Thank you so much for your time. And thank you to Dottie and Cao

[12:42] Thank you so much for your time. And thank you to Dottie and Cao

[12:42] Thank you so much for your time. And thank you to Dottie and Cao for putting forward reports on

[12:44] And thank you to Dottie and Cao for putting forward reports on

[12:44] And thank you to Dottie and Cao for putting forward reports on this item. Lime understands the

[12:45] for putting forward reports on this item. Lime understands the

[12:45] for putting forward reports on this item. Lime understands the necessity for the program to

[12:46] this item. Lime understands the necessity for the program to

[12:46] this item. Lime understands the necessity for the program to achieve cost recovery, and we

[12:48] necessity for the program to achieve cost recovery, and we

[12:48] necessity for the program to achieve cost recovery, and we are supportive of it. However,

[12:49] achieve cost recovery, and we are supportive of it. However,

[12:49] achieve cost recovery, and we are supportive of it. However, as the Cao report warns, due to

[12:51] are supportive of it. However, as the Cao report warns, due to

[12:51] are supportive of it. However, as the Cao report warns, due to prop 26, the city must avoid

[12:53] as the Cao report warns, due to prop 26, the city must avoid

[12:53] as the Cao report warns, due to prop 26, the city must avoid over or under collecting fees

[12:55] prop 26, the city must avoid over or under collecting fees

[12:55] prop 26, the city must avoid over or under collecting fees and recommends annual

[12:57] over or under collecting fees and recommends annual

[12:57] over or under collecting fees and recommends annual monitoring to stay in

[12:58] and recommends annual monitoring to stay in

[12:58] and recommends annual monitoring to stay in compliance. Lime supports this

[12:59] monitoring to stay in compliance. Lime supports this

[12:59] monitoring to stay in compliance. Lime supports this and urges the committee to add

[13:01] compliance. Lime supports this and urges the committee to add

[13:01] compliance. Lime supports this and urges the committee to add a monthly or quarterly review

[13:02] and urges the committee to add a monthly or quarterly review

[13:02] and urges the committee to add a monthly or quarterly review process to ensure collections

[13:04] a monthly or quarterly review process to ensure collections

[13:04] a monthly or quarterly review process to ensure collections are on track. Additionally, we

[13:06] process to ensure collections are on track. Additionally, we

[13:06] process to ensure collections are on track. Additionally, we believe that the city can

[13:07] are on track. Additionally, we believe that the city can

[13:07] are on track. Additionally, we believe that the city can secure more stable revenue by

[13:09] believe that the city can secure more stable revenue by

[13:09] believe that the city can secure more stable revenue by collecting a larger portion of

[13:10] secure more stable revenue by collecting a larger portion of

[13:10] secure more stable revenue by collecting a larger portion of program costs upfront through

[13:11] collecting a larger portion of program costs upfront through

[13:11] collecting a larger portion of program costs upfront through an increased annual permit fee.

[13:13] program costs upfront through an increased annual permit fee.

[13:13] program costs upfront through an increased annual permit fee. This would improve

[13:14] an increased annual permit fee. This would improve

[13:14] an increased annual permit fee. This would improve predictability for La Dottie

[13:15] This would improve predictability for La Dottie

[13:15] This would improve predictability for La Dottie without relying solely on a per

[13:17] predictability for La Dottie without relying solely on a per

[13:17] predictability for La Dottie without relying solely on a per trip variability for costs. We

[13:19] without relying solely on a per trip variability for costs. We

[13:19] without relying solely on a per trip variability for costs. We also encourage the city to use

[13:20] trip variability for costs. We also encourage the city to use

[13:20] trip variability for costs. We also encourage the city to use up to date trip estimates when

[13:22] also encourage the city to use up to date trip estimates when

[13:22] also encourage the city to use up to date trip estimates when setting the fees. The report

[13:23] up to date trip estimates when setting the fees. The report

[13:23] up to date trip estimates when setting the fees. The report uses fiscal year 24 data as the

[13:25] setting the fees. The report uses fiscal year 24 data as the

[13:25] setting the fees. The report uses fiscal year 24 data as the basis for their calculations,

[13:27] uses fiscal year 24 data as the basis for their calculations,

[13:27] uses fiscal year 24 data as the basis for their calculations, but ridership has grown

[13:28] basis for their calculations, but ridership has grown

[13:28] basis for their calculations, but ridership has grown significantly, and early fiscal

[13:30] but ridership has grown significantly, and early fiscal

[13:30] but ridership has grown significantly, and early fiscal year 26 volumes are up over 40%

[13:32] significantly, and early fiscal year 26 volumes are up over 40%

[13:32] significantly, and early fiscal year 26 volumes are up over 40% from fiscal year 24. Since the

[13:34] year 26 volumes are up over 40% from fiscal year 24. Since the

[13:34] year 26 volumes are up over 40% from fiscal year 24. Since the item was last heard at the

[13:35] from fiscal year 24. Since the item was last heard at the

[13:36] from fiscal year 24. Since the item was last heard at the budget Committee, Lime has

[13:37] item was last heard at the budget Committee, Lime has

[13:37] item was last heard at the budget Committee, Lime has grown our fleet by an

[13:38] budget Committee, Lime has grown our fleet by an

[13:38] budget Committee, Lime has grown our fleet by an additional 2500 vehicles and

[13:40] grown our fleet by an additional 2500 vehicles and

[13:40] grown our fleet by an additional 2500 vehicles and have continued to see high

[13:41] additional 2500 vehicles and have continued to see high

[13:41] additional 2500 vehicles and have continued to see high utilization rates, increasing

[13:42] have continued to see high utilization rates, increasing

[13:42] have continued to see high utilization rates, increasing the number of trips

[13:43] utilization rates, increasing the number of trips

[13:43] utilization rates, increasing the number of trips proportionally in the city.

[13:45] the number of trips proportionally in the city.

[13:45] the number of trips proportionally in the city. Calculations. Leveraging

[13:46] proportionally in the city. Calculations. Leveraging

[13:46] proportionally in the city. Calculations. Leveraging outdated ridership numbers will

[13:47] Calculations. Leveraging outdated ridership numbers will

[13:47] Calculations. Leveraging outdated ridership numbers will inevitably result in an

[13:48] outdated ridership numbers will inevitably result in an

[13:48] outdated ridership numbers will inevitably result in an overcollection of fees, which

[13:49] inevitably result in an overcollection of fees, which

[13:49] inevitably result in an overcollection of fees, which does not align with prop 26.

[13:51] overcollection of fees, which does not align with prop 26.

[13:52] overcollection of fees, which does not align with prop 26. Finally, we support a structure

[13:53] does not align with prop 26. Finally, we support a structure

[13:53] does not align with prop 26. Finally, we support a structure that keeps fees and equity

[13:54] Finally, we support a structure that keeps fees and equity

[13:55] Finally, we support a structure that keeps fees and equity districts lower to ensure that

[13:56] that keeps fees and equity districts lower to ensure that

[13:56] that keeps fees and equity districts lower to ensure that communities are not

[13:57] districts lower to ensure that communities are not

[13:57] districts lower to ensure that communities are not disproportionately impacted by

[13:58] communities are not disproportionately impacted by

[13:58] communities are not disproportionately impacted by the fee changes. Thank you for

[14:00] disproportionately impacted by the fee changes. Thank you for

[14:00] disproportionately impacted by the fee changes. Thank you for your consideration and for your

[14:01] the fee changes. Thank you for your consideration and for your

[14:01] the fee changes. Thank you for your consideration and for your continued partnership. Please

[14:06] your consideration and for your continued partnership. Please

[14:06] your consideration and for your continued partnership. Please state your name and the items

[14:07] continued partnership. Please state your name and the items

[14:07] continued partnership. Please state your name and the items you'd like to speak on. Kylie

[14:09] state your name and the items you'd like to speak on. Kylie

[14:09] state your name and the items you'd like to speak on. Kylie Feldman on behalf of bird for

[14:11] you'd like to speak on. Kylie Feldman on behalf of bird for

[14:11] you'd like to speak on. Kylie Feldman on behalf of bird for item number nine, you have one

[14:13] Feldman on behalf of bird for item number nine, you have one

[14:13] Feldman on behalf of bird for item number nine, you have one minute. Good morning, members

[14:14] item number nine, you have one minute. Good morning, members

[14:14] item number nine, you have one minute. Good morning, members of Public Works and

[14:15] minute. Good morning, members of Public Works and

[14:15] minute. Good morning, members of Public Works and Transportation committees. My

[14:16] of Public Works and Transportation committees. My

[14:16] of Public Works and Transportation committees. My name is Kylie on Birds

[14:18] Transportation committees. My name is Kylie on Birds

[14:18] Transportation committees. My name is Kylie on Birds government partnerships team.

[14:19] name is Kylie on Birds government partnerships team.

[14:19] name is Kylie on Birds government partnerships team. I'm here to offer my support

[14:20] government partnerships team. I'm here to offer my support

[14:20] government partnerships team. I'm here to offer my support for item number nine and for

[14:22] I'm here to offer my support for item number nine and for

[14:22] I'm here to offer my support for item number nine and for the continued progressive

[14:24] for item number nine and for the continued progressive

[14:24] for item number nine and for the continued progressive Equitable Transportation

[14:25] the continued progressive Equitable Transportation

[14:25] the continued progressive Equitable Transportation program to continue and thrive

[14:26] Equitable Transportation program to continue and thrive

[14:26] Equitable Transportation program to continue and thrive with Ladot. Thank you to this

[14:29] program to continue and thrive with Ladot. Thank you to this

[14:29] program to continue and thrive with Ladot. Thank you to this Council for your support of

[14:30] with Ladot. Thank you to this Council for your support of

[14:30] with Ladot. Thank you to this Council for your support of equitable transportation for

[14:31] Council for your support of equitable transportation for

[14:31] Council for your support of equitable transportation for both residents and visitors,

[14:33] equitable transportation for both residents and visitors,

[14:33] equitable transportation for both residents and visitors, and for all the work this

[14:34] both residents and visitors, and for all the work this

[14:34] both residents and visitors, and for all the work this Council has been doing to

[14:35] and for all the work this Council has been doing to

[14:35] and for all the work this Council has been doing to ensure that the vital access to

[14:36] Council has been doing to ensure that the vital access to

[14:37] Council has been doing to ensure that the vital access to sustainable, alternative

[14:37] ensure that the vital access to sustainable, alternative

[14:37] ensure that the vital access to sustainable, alternative transportation options can grow

[14:38] sustainable, alternative transportation options can grow

[14:38] sustainable, alternative transportation options can grow and thrive. We trust Ladot and

[14:40] transportation options can grow and thrive. We trust Ladot and

[14:40] transportation options can grow and thrive. We trust Ladot and this Council has carefully and

[14:42] and thrive. We trust Ladot and this Council has carefully and

[14:42] and thrive. We trust Ladot and this Council has carefully and thoughtfully determined the

[14:43] this Council has carefully and thoughtfully determined the

[14:43] this Council has carefully and thoughtfully determined the structure needed to ensure cost

[14:44] thoughtfully determined the structure needed to ensure cost

[14:44] thoughtfully determined the structure needed to ensure cost recovery and program

[14:46] structure needed to ensure cost recovery and program

[14:46] structure needed to ensure cost recovery and program sustainability. That being said,

[14:47] recovery and program sustainability. That being said,

[14:47] recovery and program sustainability. That being said, in order for this program to

[14:48] sustainability. That being said, in order for this program to

[14:48] sustainability. That being said, in order for this program to grow and evolve and access and

[14:50] in order for this program to grow and evolve and access and

[14:50] in order for this program to grow and evolve and access and safety, we support a stopgap

[14:51] grow and evolve and access and safety, we support a stopgap

[14:51] grow and evolve and access and safety, we support a stopgap measure to ensure fees

[14:52] safety, we support a stopgap measure to ensure fees

[14:52] safety, we support a stopgap measure to ensure fees collected do not go beyond cost

[14:54] measure to ensure fees collected do not go beyond cost

[14:54] measure to ensure fees collected do not go beyond cost recovery and remain in

[14:55] collected do not go beyond cost recovery and remain in

[14:55] collected do not go beyond cost recovery and remain in compliance with prop 26. This

[14:57] recovery and remain in compliance with prop 26. This

[14:57] recovery and remain in compliance with prop 26. This ensures low cost for riders,

[14:59] compliance with prop 26. This ensures low cost for riders,

[14:59] compliance with prop 26. This ensures low cost for riders, continued investment in the

[15:00] ensures low cost for riders, continued investment in the

[15:00] ensures low cost for riders, continued investment in the program and support for city

[15:01] continued investment in the program and support for city

[15:01] continued investment in the program and support for city staff, as well as one of the

[15:03] program and support for city staff, as well as one of the

[15:03] program and support for city staff, as well as one of the longest standing operators in

[15:04] staff, as well as one of the longest standing operators in

[15:04] staff, as well as one of the longest standing operators in LA. Bird is proud of our shared

[15:06] longest standing operators in LA. Bird is proud of our shared

[15:06] longest standing operators in LA. Bird is proud of our shared history together and expanding

[15:07] LA. Bird is proud of our shared history together and expanding

[15:07] LA. Bird is proud of our shared history together and expanding access to alternative,

[15:08] history together and expanding access to alternative,

[15:08] history together and expanding access to alternative, multimodal transportation, with

[15:10] access to alternative, multimodal transportation, with

[15:11] access to alternative, multimodal transportation, with 80% of our riders being local

[15:12] multimodal transportation, with 80% of our riders being local

[15:12] multimodal transportation, with 80% of our riders being local to LA, we represent not only

[15:13] 80% of our riders being local to LA, we represent not only

[15:13] 80% of our riders being local to LA, we represent not only bird in the program today, but

[15:15] to LA, we represent not only bird in the program today, but

[15:15] to LA, we represent not only bird in the program today, but also Angelenos. Thank you for

[15:16] bird in the program today, but also Angelenos. Thank you for

[15:16] bird in the program today, but also Angelenos. Thank you for your continued collaboration

[15:17] also Angelenos. Thank you for your continued collaboration

[15:17] also Angelenos. Thank you for your continued collaboration and we look forward to seeing

[15:19] your continued collaboration and we look forward to seeing

[15:19] your continued collaboration and we look forward to seeing what you all come up with today.

[15:20] and we look forward to seeing what you all come up with today.

[15:20] and we look forward to seeing what you all come up with today. Thank you, thank you. Last up

[15:24] what you all come up with today. Thank you, thank you. Last up

[15:24] what you all come up with today. Thank you, thank you. Last up we have Yolanda Logan. Please

[15:28] Thank you, thank you. Last up we have Yolanda Logan. Please

[15:28] Thank you, thank you. Last up we have Yolanda Logan. Please state your name and the items

[15:29] we have Yolanda Logan. Please state your name and the items

[15:30] we have Yolanda Logan. Please state your name and the items you'd like to speak on. Good

[15:32] state your name and the items you'd like to speak on. Good

[15:32] state your name and the items you'd like to speak on. Good morning, I'm Yolanda Logan. I

[15:34] you'd like to speak on. Good morning, I'm Yolanda Logan. I

[15:34] you'd like to speak on. Good morning, I'm Yolanda Logan. I prefer to be called Proverbs,

[15:36] morning, I'm Yolanda Logan. I prefer to be called Proverbs,

[15:36] morning, I'm Yolanda Logan. I prefer to be called Proverbs, like the book in the Bible. And

[15:39] prefer to be called Proverbs, like the book in the Bible. And

[15:39] prefer to be called Proverbs, like the book in the Bible. And today I'm going to be speaking

[15:40] like the book in the Bible. And today I'm going to be speaking

[15:40] like the book in the Bible. And today I'm going to be speaking on something that I just

[15:42] today I'm going to be speaking on something that I just

[15:42] today I'm going to be speaking on something that I just noticed today outside that is

[15:45] on something that I just noticed today outside that is

[15:45] on something that I just noticed today outside that is posted in reference to public

[15:47] noticed today outside that is posted in reference to public

[15:48] noticed today outside that is posted in reference to public works and transportation and

[15:50] posted in reference to public works and transportation and

[15:50] posted in reference to public works and transportation and extreme concern, and in

[15:53] works and transportation and extreme concern, and in

[15:53] works and transportation and extreme concern, and in reference to lane removals

[15:56] extreme concern, and in reference to lane removals

[15:56] extreme concern, and in reference to lane removals during peak hours. These items

[15:58] reference to lane removals during peak hours. These items

[15:58] reference to lane removals during peak hours. These items are posted outside of City Hall

[16:01] during peak hours. These items are posted outside of City Hall

[16:01] during peak hours. These items are posted outside of City Hall on the right. As you enter the

[16:03] are posted outside of City Hall on the right. As you enter the

[16:03] are posted outside of City Hall on the right. As you enter the building. The extreme concern I

[16:05] on the right. As you enter the building. The extreme concern I

[16:05] on the right. As you enter the building. The extreme concern I have is that in the lane

[16:09] building. The extreme concern I have is that in the lane

[16:09] building. The extreme concern I have is that in the lane removal peak hours expressed,

[16:13] have is that in the lane removal peak hours expressed,

[16:13] have is that in the lane removal peak hours expressed, the expressed extreme that I

[16:14] removal peak hours expressed, the expressed extreme that I

[16:15] removal peak hours expressed, the expressed extreme that I have is obstruction of ultimate

[16:17] the expressed extreme that I have is obstruction of ultimate

[16:17] the expressed extreme that I have is obstruction of ultimate of ultimate decision making

[16:20] have is obstruction of ultimate of ultimate decision making

[16:20] have is obstruction of ultimate of ultimate decision making authority being taken from

[16:22] of ultimate decision making authority being taken from

[16:22] of ultimate decision making authority being taken from Mayor Bass's office and other

[16:25] authority being taken from Mayor Bass's office and other

[16:25] authority being taken from Mayor Bass's office and other designated authorities when

[16:26] Mayor Bass's office and other designated authorities when

[16:26] Mayor Bass's office and other designated authorities when items adopted are not

[16:29] designated authorities when items adopted are not

[16:29] designated authorities when items adopted are not distributed and or presented to

[16:32] items adopted are not distributed and or presented to

[16:32] items adopted are not distributed and or presented to Mayor Bass's office forthwith

[16:35] distributed and or presented to Mayor Bass's office forthwith

[16:35] distributed and or presented to Mayor Bass's office forthwith or immediately prior to action

[16:39] Mayor Bass's office forthwith or immediately prior to action

[16:39] Mayor Bass's office forthwith or immediately prior to action taken on adopted items. Now,

[16:41] or immediately prior to action taken on adopted items. Now,

[16:42] or immediately prior to action taken on adopted items. Now, this that I'm speaking of has

[16:43] taken on adopted items. Now, this that I'm speaking of has

[16:43] taken on adopted items. Now, this that I'm speaking of has been printed out clearly on the

[16:47] this that I'm speaking of has been printed out clearly on the

[16:47] this that I'm speaking of has been printed out clearly on the documents that are posted. It

[16:49] been printed out clearly on the documents that are posted. It

[16:49] been printed out clearly on the documents that are posted. It literally says there are rules

[16:52] documents that are posted. It literally says there are rules

[16:52] documents that are posted. It literally says there are rules state that they do not do this.

[16:54] literally says there are rules state that they do not do this.

[16:54] literally says there are rules state that they do not do this. Please wrap up your comments.

[16:56] state that they do not do this. Please wrap up your comments.

[16:56] state that they do not do this. Please wrap up your comments. And with that being said,

[16:59] Please wrap up your comments. And with that being said,

[16:59] Please wrap up your comments. And with that being said, particularly lane removals

[17:01] And with that being said, particularly lane removals

[17:01] And with that being said, particularly lane removals during peak hours, the extreme

[17:03] particularly lane removals during peak hours, the extreme

[17:03] particularly lane removals during peak hours, the extreme concern is for the safety of

[17:05] during peak hours, the extreme concern is for the safety of

[17:05] during peak hours, the extreme concern is for the safety of the workers and also high

[17:08] concern is for the safety of the workers and also high

[17:08] concern is for the safety of the workers and also high concern for compounded delays

[17:10] the workers and also high concern for compounded delays

[17:10] the workers and also high concern for compounded delays for those that are riding the

[17:12] concern for compounded delays for those that are riding the

[17:12] concern for compounded delays for those that are riding the busses. And the last item is

[17:14] for those that are riding the busses. And the last item is

[17:14] for those that are riding the busses. And the last item is high concern for CO2 levels

[17:16] busses. And the last item is high concern for CO2 levels

[17:16] busses. And the last item is high concern for CO2 levels that are concentrated during

[17:18] high concern for CO2 levels that are concentrated during

[17:18] high concern for CO2 levels that are concentrated during high traffic times of day by

[17:21] that are concentrated during high traffic times of day by

[17:21] that are concentrated during high traffic times of day by traffic delays caused by

[17:23] high traffic times of day by traffic delays caused by

[17:23] high traffic times of day by traffic delays caused by bottlenecks of city work during

[17:25] traffic delays caused by bottlenecks of city work during

[17:25] traffic delays caused by bottlenecks of city work during peak hours. Thank you. Next up

[17:29] bottlenecks of city work during peak hours. Thank you. Next up

[17:29] bottlenecks of city work during peak hours. Thank you. Next up we have Edgar Recinos and

[17:31] peak hours. Thank you. Next up we have Edgar Recinos and

[17:32] peak hours. Thank you. Next up we have Edgar Recinos and Shahbaz Khan. Edgar Recinos or

[17:37] we have Edgar Recinos and Shahbaz Khan. Edgar Recinos or

[17:37] we have Edgar Recinos and Shahbaz Khan. Edgar Recinos or Shahbaz Khan. Not seeing them

[17:41] Shahbaz Khan. Edgar Recinos or Shahbaz Khan. Not seeing them

[17:41] Shahbaz Khan. Edgar Recinos or Shahbaz Khan. Not seeing them in the room. Madam chair that

[17:43] Shahbaz Khan. Not seeing them in the room. Madam chair that

[17:43] Shahbaz Khan. Not seeing them in the room. Madam chair that is concludes public comment. Is

[17:45] in the room. Madam chair that is concludes public comment. Is

[17:45] in the room. Madam chair that is concludes public comment. Is there anyone? Is there anyone

[17:49] is concludes public comment. Is there anyone? Is there anyone

[17:49] is concludes public comment. Is there anyone? Is there anyone else that wanted to speak

[17:51] there anyone? Is there anyone else that wanted to speak

[17:51] there anyone? Is there anyone else that wanted to speak during public comment denial

[17:54] else that wanted to speak during public comment denial

[17:54] else that wanted to speak during public comment denial officially closed public

[17:55] during public comment denial officially closed public

[17:55] during public comment denial officially closed public comment. Let's see. Now that

[18:00] officially closed public comment. Let's see. Now that

[18:00] officially closed public comment. Let's see. Now that we've closed, let's jump onto

[18:01] comment. Let's see. Now that we've closed, let's jump onto

[18:01] comment. Let's see. Now that we've closed, let's jump onto our agenda. I'd like to take up

[18:04] we've closed, let's jump onto our agenda. I'd like to take up

[18:04] we've closed, let's jump onto our agenda. I'd like to take up non-controversial items. Those

[18:06] our agenda. I'd like to take up non-controversial items. Those

[18:06] our agenda. I'd like to take up non-controversial items. Those would be one through three. Mr.

[18:08] non-controversial items. Those would be one through three. Mr.

[18:08] non-controversial items. Those would be one through three. Mr. clerk, can you please read the

[18:10] would be one through three. Mr. clerk, can you please read the

[18:10] would be one through three. Mr. clerk, can you please read the items? Very good. Okay. Item

[18:13] clerk, can you please read the items? Very good. Okay. Item

[18:13] clerk, can you please read the items? Very good. Okay. Item one city attorney report and

[18:14] items? Very good. Okay. Item one city attorney report and

[18:14] items? Very good. Okay. Item one city attorney report and draft ordinance relative to

[18:15] one city attorney report and draft ordinance relative to

[18:16] one city attorney report and draft ordinance relative to expanding the boundaries of

[18:16] draft ordinance relative to expanding the boundaries of

[18:16] draft ordinance relative to expanding the boundaries of Santa Monica Highland parking

[18:18] expanding the boundaries of Santa Monica Highland parking

[18:18] expanding the boundaries of Santa Monica Highland parking meter. Zoning Council, district

[18:19] Santa Monica Highland parking meter. Zoning Council, district

[18:19] Santa Monica Highland parking meter. Zoning Council, district 13. Item number two. Motion

[18:24] meter. Zoning Council, district 13. Item number two. Motion

[18:24] meter. Zoning Council, district 13. Item number two. Motion Gerardo Soto Martinez. Relative

[18:25] 13. Item number two. Motion Gerardo Soto Martinez. Relative

[18:25] 13. Item number two. Motion Gerardo Soto Martinez. Relative to cooperation from autonomous

[18:27] Gerardo Soto Martinez. Relative to cooperation from autonomous

[18:27] Gerardo Soto Martinez. Relative to cooperation from autonomous vehicle operators on vehicle

[18:29] to cooperation from autonomous vehicle operators on vehicle

[18:29] to cooperation from autonomous vehicle operators on vehicle operations data and adherence

[18:29] vehicle operators on vehicle operations data and adherence

[18:30] vehicle operators on vehicle operations data and adherence to local hire and workforce

[18:31] operations data and adherence to local hire and workforce

[18:31] operations data and adherence to local hire and workforce investment commitments. Item

[18:34] to local hire and workforce investment commitments. Item

[18:34] to local hire and workforce investment commitments. Item number three motion Rodriguez

[18:35] investment commitments. Item number three motion Rodriguez

[18:35] investment commitments. Item number three motion Rodriguez aye relative to the review and

[18:37] number three motion Rodriguez aye relative to the review and

[18:38] number three motion Rodriguez aye relative to the review and comments for the mission miles.

[18:39] aye relative to the review and comments for the mission miles.

[18:40] aye relative to the review and comments for the mission miles. Positive visioning for a safe

[18:41] comments for the mission miles. Positive visioning for a safe

[18:41] comments for the mission miles. Positive visioning for a safe and active Community project in

[18:43] Positive visioning for a safe and active Community project in

[18:43] Positive visioning for a safe and active Community project in Council District seven. Thank

[18:46] and active Community project in Council District seven. Thank

[18:46] and active Community project in Council District seven. Thank you. Does any member wish to

[18:48] Council District seven. Thank you. Does any member wish to

[18:48] Council District seven. Thank you. Does any member wish to discuss items one through three?

[18:53] you. Does any member wish to discuss items one through three?

[18:53] you. Does any member wish to discuss items one through three? Seeing none? Then on item one,

[18:54] discuss items one through three? Seeing none? Then on item one,

[18:54] discuss items one through three? Seeing none? Then on item one, I recommend we note and file

[18:56] Seeing none? Then on item one, I recommend we note and file

[18:56] Seeing none? Then on item one, I recommend we note and file the City Attorney's report and

[18:57] I recommend we note and file the City Attorney's report and

[18:57] I recommend we note and file the City Attorney's report and adopt the draft ordinance on

[19:00] the City Attorney's report and adopt the draft ordinance on

[19:00] the City Attorney's report and adopt the draft ordinance on item two. I recommend we adopt

[19:02] adopt the draft ordinance on item two. I recommend we adopt

[19:02] adopt the draft ordinance on item two. I recommend we adopt the motion, and on item three,

[19:04] item two. I recommend we adopt the motion, and on item three,

[19:04] item two. I recommend we adopt the motion, and on item three, I recommend we adopt the motion

[19:06] the motion, and on item three, I recommend we adopt the motion

[19:06] the motion, and on item three, I recommend we adopt the motion as amended to include the

[19:08] I recommend we adopt the motion as amended to include the

[19:08] I recommend we adopt the motion as amended to include the Bureau of Street Services

[19:09] as amended to include the Bureau of Street Services

[19:09] as amended to include the Bureau of Street Services funding transfer instructions.

[19:12] Bureau of Street Services funding transfer instructions.

[19:12] Bureau of Street Services funding transfer instructions. Members on these items. I ask

[19:14] funding transfer instructions. Members on these items. I ask

[19:14] funding transfer instructions. Members on these items. I ask for your vote, Mr. Clerk I

[19:16] Members on these items. I ask for your vote, Mr. Clerk I

[19:16] Members on these items. I ask for your vote, Mr. Clerk I yield aye. May I say something

[19:18] for your vote, Mr. Clerk I yield aye. May I say something

[19:18] for your vote, Mr. Clerk I yield aye. May I say something real quick about item two? The

[19:21] yield aye. May I say something real quick about item two? The

[19:21] yield aye. May I say something real quick about item two? The really, really quickly. Thank

[19:23] real quick about item two? The really, really quickly. Thank

[19:23] real quick about item two? The really, really quickly. Thank you. Just wanted to say that I

[19:25] really, really quickly. Thank you. Just wanted to say that I

[19:25] really, really quickly. Thank you. Just wanted to say that I put this amendment forward on

[19:26] you. Just wanted to say that I put this amendment forward on

[19:26] you. Just wanted to say that I put this amendment forward on item two, because it's been

[19:28] put this amendment forward on item two, because it's been

[19:29] put this amendment forward on item two, because it's been really difficult to deal with

[19:30] item two, because it's been really difficult to deal with

[19:30] item two, because it's been really difficult to deal with the amount of autonomous

[19:32] really difficult to deal with the amount of autonomous

[19:32] really difficult to deal with the amount of autonomous vehicles that run through our

[19:34] the amount of autonomous vehicles that run through our

[19:34] the amount of autonomous vehicles that run through our neighborhoods that have caused

[19:36] vehicles that run through our neighborhoods that have caused

[19:36] vehicles that run through our neighborhoods that have caused incidences, accidents, and we

[19:38] neighborhoods that have caused incidences, accidents, and we

[19:38] neighborhoods that have caused incidences, accidents, and we have no authority to regulate

[19:40] incidences, accidents, and we have no authority to regulate

[19:40] incidences, accidents, and we have no authority to regulate the only body in the city that

[19:42] have no authority to regulate the only body in the city that

[19:42] have no authority to regulate the only body in the city that can regulate is the airport.

[19:45] the only body in the city that can regulate is the airport.

[19:45] the only body in the city that can regulate is the airport. And so I'm hoping that the city

[19:47] can regulate is the airport. And so I'm hoping that the city

[19:47] can regulate is the airport. And so I'm hoping that the city attorney can provide or even

[19:50] And so I'm hoping that the city attorney can provide or even

[19:50] And so I'm hoping that the city attorney can provide or even our other partners, such as the

[19:51] attorney can provide or even our other partners, such as the

[19:51] attorney can provide or even our other partners, such as the CLA and Co, provide us with

[19:53] our other partners, such as the CLA and Co, provide us with

[19:53] our other partners, such as the CLA and Co, provide us with information around potential

[19:54] CLA and Co, provide us with information around potential

[19:54] CLA and Co, provide us with information around potential state legislative changes that

[19:56] information around potential state legislative changes that

[19:56] information around potential state legislative changes that could be made similar to what

[19:58] state legislative changes that could be made similar to what

[19:58] state legislative changes that could be made similar to what happens at the county. The

[19:59] could be made similar to what happens at the county. The

[19:59] could be made similar to what happens at the county. The county Board of Supervisors has

[20:00] happens at the county. The county Board of Supervisors has

[20:00] happens at the county. The county Board of Supervisors has their departments for

[20:02] county Board of Supervisors has their departments for

[20:02] county Board of Supervisors has their departments for legislative changes that could

[20:03] their departments for legislative changes that could

[20:03] their departments for legislative changes that could be made to benefit their work.

[20:05] legislative changes that could be made to benefit their work.

[20:05] legislative changes that could be made to benefit their work. And so that's why I put this

[20:07] be made to benefit their work. And so that's why I put this

[20:07] be made to benefit their work. And so that's why I put this amendment forward. Hopefully

[20:07] And so that's why I put this amendment forward. Hopefully

[20:07] And so that's why I put this amendment forward. Hopefully get some of those suggestions

[20:09] amendment forward. Hopefully get some of those suggestions

[20:09] amendment forward. Hopefully get some of those suggestions around what changes we could

[20:10] get some of those suggestions around what changes we could

[20:10] get some of those suggestions around what changes we could make so that we can regulate

[20:13] around what changes we could make so that we can regulate

[20:13] around what changes we could make so that we can regulate autonomous vehicles in this

[20:14] make so that we can regulate autonomous vehicles in this

[20:14] make so that we can regulate autonomous vehicles in this city. So, Madam Chair, would

[20:17] autonomous vehicles in this city. So, Madam Chair, would

[20:18] autonomous vehicles in this city. So, Madam Chair, would for item comments one second.

[20:19] city. So, Madam Chair, would for item comments one second.

[20:19] city. So, Madam Chair, would for item comments one second. Oh, just comments on to you

[20:23] for item comments one second. Oh, just comments on to you

[20:23] for item comments one second. Oh, just comments on to you know, I very much agree with

[20:25] Oh, just comments on to you know, I very much agree with

[20:25] Oh, just comments on to you know, I very much agree with the sentiment of Council Member

[20:28] know, I very much agree with the sentiment of Council Member

[20:28] know, I very much agree with the sentiment of Council Member Hernandez. It's never a good

[20:31] the sentiment of Council Member Hernandez. It's never a good

[20:31] the sentiment of Council Member Hernandez. It's never a good day when we see headlines

[20:32] Hernandez. It's never a good day when we see headlines

[20:32] Hernandez. It's never a good day when we see headlines related to the accidents that

[20:34] day when we see headlines related to the accidents that

[20:34] day when we see headlines related to the accidents that are being caused by these

[20:35] related to the accidents that are being caused by these

[20:36] related to the accidents that are being caused by these vehicles, we know. So we've

[20:38] are being caused by these vehicles, we know. So we've

[20:38] are being caused by these vehicles, we know. So we've heard that their bottom line is,

[20:42] vehicles, we know. So we've heard that their bottom line is,

[20:42] vehicles, we know. So we've heard that their bottom line is, you know, to be all over Los

[20:44] heard that their bottom line is, you know, to be all over Los

[20:44] heard that their bottom line is, you know, to be all over Los Angeles. But there's a lot of

[20:47] you know, to be all over Los Angeles. But there's a lot of

[20:47] you know, to be all over Los Angeles. But there's a lot of us, including myself, that

[20:48] Angeles. But there's a lot of us, including myself, that

[20:48] Angeles. But there's a lot of us, including myself, that believe or don't like that we

[20:49] us, including myself, that believe or don't like that we

[20:49] us, including myself, that believe or don't like that we don't have a human being in

[20:51] believe or don't like that we don't have a human being in

[20:51] believe or don't like that we don't have a human being in there that can potentially, you

[20:52] don't have a human being in there that can potentially, you

[20:52] don't have a human being in there that can potentially, you know, push an emergency button

[20:53] there that can potentially, you know, push an emergency button

[20:53] there that can potentially, you know, push an emergency button or steer the steering wheel

[20:55] know, push an emergency button or steer the steering wheel

[20:55] know, push an emergency button or steer the steering wheel when something is going wrong.

[20:56] or steer the steering wheel when something is going wrong.

[20:56] or steer the steering wheel when something is going wrong. So I will definitely actually

[20:58] when something is going wrong. So I will definitely actually

[20:58] when something is going wrong. So I will definitely actually be writing a letter to my state

[21:00] So I will definitely actually be writing a letter to my state

[21:00] So I will definitely actually be writing a letter to my state leaders, as well as the Public

[21:02] be writing a letter to my state leaders, as well as the Public

[21:02] be writing a letter to my state leaders, as well as the Public Utilities Commission and the

[21:04] leaders, as well as the Public Utilities Commission and the

[21:04] leaders, as well as the Public Utilities Commission and the Department of Motor Vehicles,

[21:06] Utilities Commission and the Department of Motor Vehicles,

[21:06] Utilities Commission and the Department of Motor Vehicles, on how irresponsible it is to

[21:08] Department of Motor Vehicles, on how irresponsible it is to

[21:08] Department of Motor Vehicles, on how irresponsible it is to not give us more jurisdiction

[21:09] on how irresponsible it is to not give us more jurisdiction

[21:09] on how irresponsible it is to not give us more jurisdiction as as cities to say where and

[21:13] not give us more jurisdiction as as cities to say where and

[21:13] not give us more jurisdiction as as cities to say where and when we think these things are

[21:14] as as cities to say where and when we think these things are

[21:14] as as cities to say where and when we think these things are appropriate to be on our

[21:16] when we think these things are appropriate to be on our

[21:16] when we think these things are appropriate to be on our streets. Thank you very much.

[21:18] appropriate to be on our streets. Thank you very much.

[21:18] appropriate to be on our streets. Thank you very much. Thank you members. So then, in

[21:20] streets. Thank you very much. Thank you members. So then, in

[21:21] streets. Thank you very much. Thank you members. So then, in the case that we have an

[21:22] Thank you members. So then, in the case that we have an

[21:22] Thank you members. So then, in the case that we have an amendment on item two, I

[21:23] the case that we have an amendment on item two, I

[21:23] the case that we have an amendment on item two, I recommend we adopt item two as

[21:27] amendment on item two, I recommend we adopt item two as

[21:27] amendment on item two, I recommend we adopt item two as amended amended. And you were

[21:28] recommend we adopt item two as amended amended. And you were

[21:28] recommend we adopt item two as amended amended. And you were going to make a recommendation.

[21:30] amended amended. And you were going to make a recommendation.

[21:30] amended amended. And you were going to make a recommendation. That was what I was trying to

[21:31] going to make a recommendation. That was what I was trying to

[21:31] going to make a recommendation. That was what I was trying to clarify, whether it was as

[21:33] That was what I was trying to clarify, whether it was as

[21:33] That was what I was trying to clarify, whether it was as amended, which you just said.

[21:34] clarify, whether it was as amended, which you just said.

[21:34] clarify, whether it was as amended, which you just said. So okay. We're good there.

[21:36] amended, which you just said. So okay. We're good there.

[21:36] amended, which you just said. So okay. We're good there. Shall I call the vote on that

[21:38] So okay. We're good there. Shall I call the vote on that

[21:38] So okay. We're good there. Shall I call the vote on that then? Yes, please. Very good.

[21:40] Shall I call the vote on that then? Yes, please. Very good.

[21:40] Shall I call the vote on that then? Yes, please. Very good. Okay. These are just

[21:42] then? Yes, please. Very good. Okay. These are just

[21:42] then? Yes, please. Very good. Okay. These are just transportation items.

[21:44] Okay. These are just transportation items.

[21:44] Okay. These are just transportation items. Councilmember Hutt. Yes.

[21:46] transportation items. Councilmember Hutt. Yes.

[21:46] transportation items. Councilmember Hutt. Yes. Councilmember Park. Yes.

[21:48] Councilmember Hutt. Yes. Councilmember Park. Yes.

[21:48] Councilmember Hutt. Yes. Councilmember Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes.

[21:50] Councilmember Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes.

[21:50] Councilmember Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes.

[21:52] Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes.

[21:52] Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Nazarian. Yes.

[21:55] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Nazarian. Yes.

[21:55] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Nazarian. Yes. Those matters are approved as

[21:57] And Councilmember Nazarian. Yes. Those matters are approved as

[21:57] And Councilmember Nazarian. Yes. Those matters are approved as noted. Thank you. Now, I'd like

[21:59] Those matters are approved as noted. Thank you. Now, I'd like

[21:59] Those matters are approved as noted. Thank you. Now, I'd like to take items four through six.

[22:01] noted. Thank you. Now, I'd like to take items four through six.

[22:01] noted. Thank you. Now, I'd like to take items four through six. Mr. clerk, can you please read

[22:03] to take items four through six. Mr. clerk, can you please read

[22:03] to take items four through six. Mr. clerk, can you please read the items? Okay. Number four,

[22:06] Mr. clerk, can you please read the items? Okay. Number four,

[22:07] Mr. clerk, can you please read the items? Okay. Number four, resolution. Rodriguez Lee,

[22:08] the items? Okay. Number four, resolution. Rodriguez Lee,

[22:08] the items? Okay. Number four, resolution. Rodriguez Lee, relative to establishing

[22:09] resolution. Rodriguez Lee, relative to establishing

[22:09] resolution. Rodriguez Lee, relative to establishing oversize vehicle parking

[22:10] relative to establishing oversize vehicle parking

[22:10] relative to establishing oversize vehicle parking restrictions along certain

[22:11] oversize vehicle parking restrictions along certain

[22:11] oversize vehicle parking restrictions along certain street segments of Sunland

[22:12] restrictions along certain street segments of Sunland

[22:12] restrictions along certain street segments of Sunland Boulevard, Gladstone Avenue,

[22:14] street segments of Sunland Boulevard, Gladstone Avenue,

[22:14] street segments of Sunland Boulevard, Gladstone Avenue, and Borden Avenue in Council

[22:15] Boulevard, Gladstone Avenue, and Borden Avenue in Council

[22:15] Boulevard, Gladstone Avenue, and Borden Avenue in Council District seven. Item five.

[22:18] and Borden Avenue in Council District seven. Item five.

[22:18] and Borden Avenue in Council District seven. Item five. Resolution. Lee Harris-dawson.

[22:19] District seven. Item five. Resolution. Lee Harris-dawson.

[22:19] District seven. Item five. Resolution. Lee Harris-dawson. Relative to establishing

[22:20] Resolution. Lee Harris-dawson. Relative to establishing

[22:20] Resolution. Lee Harris-dawson. Relative to establishing oversize vehicle restrictions

[22:21] Relative to establishing oversize vehicle restrictions

[22:21] Relative to establishing oversize vehicle restrictions along certain street segments

[22:23] oversize vehicle restrictions along certain street segments

[22:23] oversize vehicle restrictions along certain street segments of Gothic Avenue and Yolanda

[22:25] along certain street segments of Gothic Avenue and Yolanda

[22:25] along certain street segments of Gothic Avenue and Yolanda Avenue in Council District 12

[22:27] of Gothic Avenue and Yolanda Avenue in Council District 12

[22:27] of Gothic Avenue and Yolanda Avenue in Council District 12 and item number six. Resolution

[22:28] Avenue in Council District 12 and item number six. Resolution

[22:28] Avenue in Council District 12 and item number six. Resolution How they Lee. Relative to

[22:30] and item number six. Resolution How they Lee. Relative to

[22:30] and item number six. Resolution How they Lee. Relative to establishing oversize vehicle

[22:31] How they Lee. Relative to establishing oversize vehicle

[22:31] How they Lee. Relative to establishing oversize vehicle resolution, oversize vehicle

[22:32] establishing oversize vehicle resolution, oversize vehicle

[22:33] establishing oversize vehicle resolution, oversize vehicle resolutions restrictions rather

[22:34] resolution, oversize vehicle resolutions restrictions rather

[22:34] resolution, oversize vehicle resolutions restrictions rather along a certain street segment

[22:35] resolutions restrictions rather along a certain street segment

[22:35] resolutions restrictions rather along a certain street segment of West 18th Street in Council

[22:37] along a certain street segment of West 18th Street in Council

[22:37] along a certain street segment of West 18th Street in Council District ten. Thank you, Mr.

[22:43] of West 18th Street in Council District ten. Thank you, Mr.

[22:43] of West 18th Street in Council District ten. Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Is there any discussion

[22:45] District ten. Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Is there any discussion

[22:45] District ten. Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Is there any discussion on these items? No. Okay. So on

[22:50] Clerk. Is there any discussion on these items? No. Okay. So on

[22:50] Clerk. Is there any discussion on these items? No. Okay. So on items four through six, I

[22:52] on these items? No. Okay. So on items four through six, I

[22:52] on these items? No. Okay. So on items four through six, I recommend we adopt the

[22:54] items four through six, I recommend we adopt the

[22:54] items four through six, I recommend we adopt the resolution. Did you want to

[22:55] recommend we adopt the resolution. Did you want to

[22:55] recommend we adopt the resolution. Did you want to take Mr Bonin? No, I'll vote no.

[22:57] resolution. Did you want to take Mr Bonin? No, I'll vote no.

[22:57] resolution. Did you want to take Mr Bonin? No, I'll vote no. Okay. Mr. clerk, can you please

[22:59] take Mr Bonin? No, I'll vote no. Okay. Mr. clerk, can you please

[23:00] take Mr Bonin? No, I'll vote no. Okay. Mr. clerk, can you please call the roll? Very good. All

[23:02] Okay. Mr. clerk, can you please call the roll? Very good. All

[23:02] Okay. Mr. clerk, can you please call the roll? Very good. All these items. Councilmember. Yes.

[23:05] call the roll? Very good. All these items. Councilmember. Yes.

[23:06] call the roll? Very good. All these items. Councilmember. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes.

[23:07] these items. Councilmember. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes.

[23:07] these items. Councilmember. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. No.

[23:09] Councilmember. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. No.

[23:10] Councilmember. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. No. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes.

[23:12] Councilmember. Hernandez. No. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes.

[23:12] Councilmember. Hernandez. No. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Councilmember. Nazarian. Aye.

[23:15] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Councilmember. Nazarian. Aye.

[23:15] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Councilmember. Nazarian. Aye. Very good. These matters are

[23:16] Councilmember. Nazarian. Aye. Very good. These matters are

[23:16] Councilmember. Nazarian. Aye. Very good. These matters are approved. Thank you. Now, I'd

[23:18] Very good. These matters are approved. Thank you. Now, I'd

[23:19] Very good. These matters are approved. Thank you. Now, I'd like to take up

[23:20] approved. Thank you. Now, I'd like to take up

[23:20] approved. Thank you. Now, I'd like to take up non-controversial item in the

[23:22] like to take up non-controversial item in the

[23:22] like to take up non-controversial item in the joint committee. Since item A

[23:25] non-controversial item in the joint committee. Since item A

[23:25] non-controversial item in the joint committee. Since item A is moved, moving to be

[23:29] joint committee. Since item A is moved, moving to be

[23:29] joint committee. Since item A is moved, moving to be determined. And we'd like to

[23:31] is moved, moving to be determined. And we'd like to

[23:31] is moved, moving to be determined. And we'd like to take item seven. Do any members

[23:33] determined. And we'd like to take item seven. Do any members

[23:33] determined. And we'd like to take item seven. Do any members want to discuss item seven?

[23:38] take item seven. Do any members want to discuss item seven?

[23:38] take item seven. Do any members want to discuss item seven? Okay. Item seven is a motion

[23:40] want to discuss item seven? Okay. Item seven is a motion

[23:40] want to discuss item seven? Okay. Item seven is a motion McCosker How they relative to

[23:41] Okay. Item seven is a motion McCosker How they relative to

[23:41] Okay. Item seven is a motion McCosker How they relative to applying for the city's local

[23:43] McCosker How they relative to applying for the city's local

[23:43] McCosker How they relative to applying for the city's local allocation of the South Bay

[23:44] applying for the city's local allocation of the South Bay

[23:44] applying for the city's local allocation of the South Bay City's Council of Governments

[23:45] allocation of the South Bay City's Council of Governments

[23:45] allocation of the South Bay City's Council of Governments measure M funds for fiscal year

[23:48] City's Council of Governments measure M funds for fiscal year

[23:48] City's Council of Governments measure M funds for fiscal year 2026. Thank you. Is there any

[23:52] measure M funds for fiscal year 2026. Thank you. Is there any

[23:52] measure M funds for fiscal year 2026. Thank you. Is there any discussion? Members on item

[23:53] 2026. Thank you. Is there any discussion? Members on item

[23:53] 2026. Thank you. Is there any discussion? Members on item seven? Okay, then I recommend

[23:56] discussion? Members on item seven? Okay, then I recommend

[23:56] discussion? Members on item seven? Okay, then I recommend we adopt the motion on item

[23:59] seven? Okay, then I recommend we adopt the motion on item

[23:59] seven? Okay, then I recommend we adopt the motion on item seven and then eight. We're

[24:01] we adopt the motion on item seven and then eight. We're

[24:01] we adopt the motion on item seven and then eight. We're doing it a further future

[24:02] seven and then eight. We're doing it a further future

[24:03] seven and then eight. We're doing it a further future meeting. All right. For item

[24:05] doing it a further future meeting. All right. For item

[24:05] doing it a further future meeting. All right. For item seven on the Transportation

[24:06] meeting. All right. For item seven on the Transportation

[24:07] meeting. All right. For item seven on the Transportation committee side. Councilmember.

[24:09] seven on the Transportation committee side. Councilmember.

[24:09] seven on the Transportation committee side. Councilmember. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes.

[24:11] committee side. Councilmember. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes.

[24:11] committee side. Councilmember. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes.

[24:14] Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes.

[24:14] Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes.

[24:15] Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes.

[24:15] Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Nazarian. Aye.

[24:18] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Nazarian. Aye.

[24:18] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Nazarian. Aye. On the public works side,

[24:19] And Councilmember Nazarian. Aye. On the public works side,

[24:19] And Councilmember Nazarian. Aye. On the public works side, Councilmember Hernandez. Yes.

[24:21] On the public works side, Councilmember Hernandez. Yes.

[24:22] On the public works side, Councilmember Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember Padilla. Yes. And

[24:24] Councilmember Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember Padilla. Yes. And

[24:24] Councilmember Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Hutt. Yes. That

[24:25] Councilmember Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Hutt. Yes. That

[24:25] Councilmember Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Hutt. Yes. That item is approved. Thank you.

[24:28] Councilmember Hutt. Yes. That item is approved. Thank you.

[24:28] Councilmember Hutt. Yes. That item is approved. Thank you. Let's move on to the last item

[24:30] item is approved. Thank you. Let's move on to the last item

[24:30] item is approved. Thank you. Let's move on to the last item as part of our special joint

[24:32] Let's move on to the last item as part of our special joint

[24:32] Let's move on to the last item as part of our special joint committee meeting today. Mr.

[24:34] as part of our special joint committee meeting today. Mr.

[24:34] as part of our special joint committee meeting today. Mr. clerk, can you please read item

[24:37] committee meeting today. Mr. clerk, can you please read item

[24:37] committee meeting today. Mr. clerk, can you please read item nine? Very good. This matters

[24:38] clerk, can you please read item nine? Very good. This matters

[24:39] clerk, can you please read item nine? Very good. This matters continued from August 13th,

[24:40] nine? Very good. This matters continued from August 13th,

[24:40] nine? Very good. This matters continued from August 13th, 2025 and September 19th, 2025.

[24:42] continued from August 13th, 2025 and September 19th, 2025.

[24:42] continued from August 13th, 2025 and September 19th, 2025. City Attorney Report and Draft

[24:44] 2025 and September 19th, 2025. City Attorney Report and Draft

[24:44] 2025 and September 19th, 2025. City Attorney Report and Draft Ordinance Relative to amending

[24:45] City Attorney Report and Draft Ordinance Relative to amending

[24:45] City Attorney Report and Draft Ordinance Relative to amending Los Angeles Municipal Code to

[24:47] Ordinance Relative to amending Los Angeles Municipal Code to

[24:47] Ordinance Relative to amending Los Angeles Municipal Code to update the shared mobility

[24:49] Los Angeles Municipal Code to update the shared mobility

[24:49] Los Angeles Municipal Code to update the shared mobility device. Trip fees paid to the

[24:50] update the shared mobility device. Trip fees paid to the

[24:50] update the shared mobility device. Trip fees paid to the Department of Transportation

[24:52] device. Trip fees paid to the Department of Transportation

[24:53] device. Trip fees paid to the Department of Transportation and Duty and Co reports

[24:55] Department of Transportation and Duty and Co reports

[24:55] Department of Transportation and Duty and Co reports relative to on demand mobility

[24:56] and Duty and Co reports relative to on demand mobility

[24:56] and Duty and Co reports relative to on demand mobility program, trip fee update and

[24:59] relative to on demand mobility program, trip fee update and

[24:59] relative to on demand mobility program, trip fee update and methodology. Thank you. Okay,

[25:03] program, trip fee update and methodology. Thank you. Okay,

[25:03] program, trip fee update and methodology. Thank you. Okay, welcome to the table. We'd like

[25:05] methodology. Thank you. Okay, welcome to the table. We'd like

[25:05] methodology. Thank you. Okay, welcome to the table. We'd like a brief analysis or

[25:07] welcome to the table. We'd like a brief analysis or

[25:07] welcome to the table. We'd like a brief analysis or presentation of the fee and

[25:11] a brief analysis or presentation of the fee and

[25:11] a brief analysis or presentation of the fee and provide any commentary to go

[25:13] presentation of the fee and provide any commentary to go

[25:13] presentation of the fee and provide any commentary to go along with that. There we go.

[25:18] provide any commentary to go along with that. There we go.

[25:19] provide any commentary to go along with that. There we go. Good morning. I'm Allison

[25:20] along with that. There we go. Good morning. I'm Allison

[25:20] along with that. There we go. Good morning. I'm Allison Willhite with the office of the

[25:22] Good morning. I'm Allison Willhite with the office of the

[25:22] Good morning. I'm Allison Willhite with the office of the City Administrative Officer.

[25:23] Willhite with the office of the City Administrative Officer.

[25:23] Willhite with the office of the City Administrative Officer. The report provides our

[25:25] City Administrative Officer. The report provides our

[25:25] City Administrative Officer. The report provides our analysis and recommendation

[25:26] The report provides our analysis and recommendation

[25:26] The report provides our analysis and recommendation regarding an update to the trip

[25:28] analysis and recommendation regarding an update to the trip

[25:28] analysis and recommendation regarding an update to the trip fee structure for the city's on

[25:29] regarding an update to the trip fee structure for the city's on

[25:29] regarding an update to the trip fee structure for the city's on demand mobility program. This

[25:31] fee structure for the city's on demand mobility program. This

[25:32] fee structure for the city's on demand mobility program. This update is necessary because the

[25:33] demand mobility program. This update is necessary because the

[25:33] demand mobility program. This update is necessary because the current trip fees were

[25:35] update is necessary because the current trip fees were

[25:35] update is necessary because the current trip fees were implemented in 2021, and no

[25:36] current trip fees were implemented in 2021, and no

[25:36] current trip fees were implemented in 2021, and no longer cover the cost to

[25:38] implemented in 2021, and no longer cover the cost to

[25:38] implemented in 2021, and no longer cover the cost to operate this program. At this

[25:40] longer cover the cost to operate this program. At this

[25:40] longer cover the cost to operate this program. At this time, current revenues are only

[25:41] operate this program. At this time, current revenues are only

[25:41] operate this program. At this time, current revenues are only bringing in about 20% of the

[25:43] time, current revenues are only bringing in about 20% of the

[25:43] time, current revenues are only bringing in about 20% of the cost needed to cover the costs

[25:44] bringing in about 20% of the cost needed to cover the costs

[25:44] bringing in about 20% of the cost needed to cover the costs for this program. While La

[25:47] cost needed to cover the costs for this program. While La

[25:47] cost needed to cover the costs for this program. While La Dot's proposed fee structure

[25:48] for this program. While La Dot's proposed fee structure

[25:48] for this program. While La Dot's proposed fee structure would achieve that cost

[25:50] Dot's proposed fee structure would achieve that cost

[25:50] Dot's proposed fee structure would achieve that cost recovery, the concern for our

[25:51] would achieve that cost recovery, the concern for our

[25:51] would achieve that cost recovery, the concern for our office is that it's not

[25:52] recovery, the concern for our office is that it's not

[25:52] recovery, the concern for our office is that it's not compliant with state and city

[25:53] office is that it's not compliant with state and city

[25:53] office is that it's not compliant with state and city financial policies, in part

[25:55] compliant with state and city financial policies, in part

[25:55] compliant with state and city financial policies, in part because it shifts the cost

[25:57] financial policies, in part because it shifts the cost

[25:57] financial policies, in part because it shifts the cost burden of operating in the

[25:58] because it shifts the cost burden of operating in the

[25:58] because it shifts the cost burden of operating in the equity focus mobility

[25:59] burden of operating in the equity focus mobility

[25:59] burden of operating in the equity focus mobility development districts to other

[26:01] equity focus mobility development districts to other

[26:01] equity focus mobility development districts to other geographic areas, which we seek

[26:02] development districts to other geographic areas, which we seek

[26:03] development districts to other geographic areas, which we seek to address. In our new

[26:04] geographic areas, which we seek to address. In our new

[26:04] geographic areas, which we seek to address. In our new methodology presented in the

[26:05] to address. In our new methodology presented in the

[26:05] to address. In our new methodology presented in the report, we use updated data

[26:08] methodology presented in the report, we use updated data

[26:08] methodology presented in the report, we use updated data from fiscal year 2024 and 2025,

[26:10] report, we use updated data from fiscal year 2024 and 2025,

[26:10] report, we use updated data from fiscal year 2024 and 2025, as well as the data from the

[26:12] from fiscal year 2024 and 2025, as well as the data from the

[26:12] from fiscal year 2024 and 2025, as well as the data from the three 1-1 request. In order to

[26:13] as well as the data from the three 1-1 request. In order to

[26:13] as well as the data from the three 1-1 request. In order to do our analysis, we presented

[26:15] three 1-1 request. In order to do our analysis, we presented

[26:16] three 1-1 request. In order to do our analysis, we presented our report three fee structure

[26:18] do our analysis, we presented our report three fee structure

[26:18] do our analysis, we presented our report three fee structure options and recommend the

[26:19] our report three fee structure options and recommend the

[26:19] our report three fee structure options and recommend the Partial Subsidy option, which

[26:21] options and recommend the Partial Subsidy option, which

[26:21] options and recommend the Partial Subsidy option, which is projected to generate nearly

[26:23] Partial Subsidy option, which is projected to generate nearly

[26:23] Partial Subsidy option, which is projected to generate nearly 2.7 million in annual revenue

[26:25] is projected to generate nearly 2.7 million in annual revenue

[26:25] is projected to generate nearly 2.7 million in annual revenue and require an estimated

[26:27] 2.7 million in annual revenue and require an estimated

[26:27] 2.7 million in annual revenue and require an estimated 254,000, in a subsidy from the

[26:28] and require an estimated 254,000, in a subsidy from the

[26:28] and require an estimated 254,000, in a subsidy from the general Fund. The reason for

[26:30] 254,000, in a subsidy from the general Fund. The reason for

[26:30] 254,000, in a subsidy from the general Fund. The reason for the subsidy is based on city

[26:32] general Fund. The reason for the subsidy is based on city

[26:32] general Fund. The reason for the subsidy is based on city financial policy. To continue

[26:34] the subsidy is based on city financial policy. To continue

[26:34] the subsidy is based on city financial policy. To continue the policy goal for the no fee

[26:36] financial policy. To continue the policy goal for the no fee

[26:36] financial policy. To continue the policy goal for the no fee for the equity focused areas,

[26:37] the policy goal for the no fee for the equity focused areas,

[26:37] the policy goal for the no fee for the equity focused areas, the City Council would first

[26:39] for the equity focused areas, the City Council would first

[26:39] for the equity focused areas, the City Council would first need to find that there is a

[26:40] the City Council would first need to find that there is a

[26:40] the City Council would first need to find that there is a public benefit to waiving the

[26:42] need to find that there is a public benefit to waiving the

[26:42] need to find that there is a public benefit to waiving the fee, and then agree to that

[26:43] public benefit to waiving the fee, and then agree to that

[26:44] public benefit to waiving the fee, and then agree to that subsidy from the general fund,

[26:45] fee, and then agree to that subsidy from the general fund,

[26:45] fee, and then agree to that subsidy from the general fund, which is outlined in our

[26:46] subsidy from the general fund, which is outlined in our

[26:46] subsidy from the general fund, which is outlined in our financial policy. If there's

[26:48] which is outlined in our financial policy. If there's

[26:48] which is outlined in our financial policy. If there's any questions around the

[26:49] financial policy. If there's any questions around the

[26:49] financial policy. If there's any questions around the amendments, I saw that there

[26:50] any questions around the amendments, I saw that there

[26:50] any questions around the amendments, I saw that there were updates requested around

[26:51] amendments, I saw that there were updates requested around

[26:51] amendments, I saw that there were updates requested around the permits. We would just like

[26:53] were updates requested around the permits. We would just like

[26:53] were updates requested around the permits. We would just like to be able to review that

[26:54] the permits. We would just like to be able to review that

[26:54] the permits. We would just like to be able to review that further, to understand if it

[26:56] to be able to review that further, to understand if it

[26:56] to be able to review that further, to understand if it would be reasonable to increase

[26:57] further, to understand if it would be reasonable to increase

[26:57] further, to understand if it would be reasonable to increase the permit cost or to provide

[26:58] would be reasonable to increase the permit cost or to provide

[26:59] would be reasonable to increase the permit cost or to provide that tiered structure that was

[27:00] the permit cost or to provide that tiered structure that was

[27:00] the permit cost or to provide that tiered structure that was requested. With that, I

[27:02] that tiered structure that was requested. With that, I

[27:02] that tiered structure that was requested. With that, I conclude my presentation and

[27:03] requested. With that, I conclude my presentation and

[27:03] requested. With that, I conclude my presentation and open up to any questions. Thank

[27:05] conclude my presentation and open up to any questions. Thank

[27:05] conclude my presentation and open up to any questions. Thank you. I'd like to turn it over

[27:09] open up to any questions. Thank you. I'd like to turn it over

[27:09] open up to any questions. Thank you. I'd like to turn it over to our Public Works Committee

[27:10] you. I'd like to turn it over to our Public Works Committee

[27:10] you. I'd like to turn it over to our Public Works Committee chair for comments and

[27:12] to our Public Works Committee chair for comments and

[27:12] to our Public Works Committee chair for comments and questions. First, thank you. I

[27:14] chair for comments and questions. First, thank you. I

[27:14] chair for comments and questions. First, thank you. I yield I do have some questions.

[27:17] questions. First, thank you. I yield I do have some questions.

[27:17] questions. First, thank you. I yield I do have some questions. I have questions for the Cao

[27:18] yield I do have some questions. I have questions for the Cao

[27:18] yield I do have some questions. I have questions for the Cao and I have questions for Dot

[27:20] I have questions for the Cao and I have questions for Dot

[27:20] I have questions for the Cao and I have questions for Dot and the City attorney. Thank

[27:24] and I have questions for Dot and the City attorney. Thank

[27:24] and I have questions for Dot and the City attorney. Thank you. What are the determining

[27:31] and the City attorney. Thank you. What are the determining

[27:31] and the City attorney. Thank you. What are the determining factors for the recommendations

[27:32] you. What are the determining factors for the recommendations

[27:32] you. What are the determining factors for the recommendations to provide a 40% general

[27:35] factors for the recommendations to provide a 40% general

[27:35] factors for the recommendations to provide a 40% general administrative slash, 60%

[27:37] to provide a 40% general administrative slash, 60%

[27:37] to provide a 40% general administrative slash, 60% geographic specific work split.

[27:40] administrative slash, 60% geographic specific work split.

[27:40] administrative slash, 60% geographic specific work split. For that we consulted with Dot

[27:42] geographic specific work split. For that we consulted with Dot

[27:43] geographic specific work split. For that we consulted with Dot around how is it that they

[27:44] For that we consulted with Dot around how is it that they

[27:44] For that we consulted with Dot around how is it that they break down the work. There's

[27:45] around how is it that they break down the work. There's

[27:45] around how is it that they break down the work. There's various components of their

[27:46] break down the work. There's various components of their

[27:46] break down the work. There's various components of their work, which I'll let Jarvis

[27:47] various components of their work, which I'll let Jarvis

[27:48] various components of their work, which I'll let Jarvis with Dot to speak to. But what

[27:50] work, which I'll let Jarvis with Dot to speak to. But what

[27:50] work, which I'll let Jarvis with Dot to speak to. But what we saw from that was there are

[27:52] with Dot to speak to. But what we saw from that was there are

[27:52] with Dot to speak to. But what we saw from that was there are elements that are specific to

[27:53] we saw from that was there are elements that are specific to

[27:53] we saw from that was there are elements that are specific to the geographic area, but there

[27:54] elements that are specific to the geographic area, but there

[27:54] elements that are specific to the geographic area, but there are other elements that are

[27:56] the geographic area, but there are other elements that are

[27:56] the geographic area, but there are other elements that are just a broader administrative

[27:57] are other elements that are just a broader administrative

[27:57] are other elements that are just a broader administrative need for the program. And so

[27:59] just a broader administrative need for the program. And so

[27:59] just a broader administrative need for the program. And so just from Dot's assessment of

[28:01] need for the program. And so just from Dot's assessment of

[28:01] need for the program. And so just from Dot's assessment of their work, they they believed

[28:02] just from Dot's assessment of their work, they they believed

[28:02] just from Dot's assessment of their work, they they believed that a 4060 split would be

[28:04] their work, they they believed that a 4060 split would be

[28:04] their work, they they believed that a 4060 split would be appropriate. And thank you for

[28:07] that a 4060 split would be appropriate. And thank you for

[28:07] that a 4060 split would be appropriate. And thank you for that. And can you tell us what

[28:09] appropriate. And thank you for that. And can you tell us what

[28:09] appropriate. And thank you for that. And can you tell us what that split looks like in

[28:10] that. And can you tell us what that split looks like in

[28:10] that. And can you tell us what that split looks like in application. Like what falls

[28:12] that split looks like in application. Like what falls

[28:12] that split looks like in application. Like what falls under the 60? What falls under

[28:13] application. Like what falls under the 60? What falls under

[28:13] application. Like what falls under the 60? What falls under the 40? Yes. So as we look at

[28:16] under the 60? What falls under the 40? Yes. So as we look at

[28:16] under the 60? What falls under the 40? Yes. So as we look at the geographic work, because we

[28:19] the 40? Yes. So as we look at the geographic work, because we

[28:19] the 40? Yes. So as we look at the geographic work, because we have geographic trip fee zones,

[28:22] the geographic work, because we have geographic trip fee zones,

[28:22] the geographic work, because we have geographic trip fee zones, there's a lot of work that

[28:23] have geographic trip fee zones, there's a lot of work that

[28:23] have geographic trip fee zones, there's a lot of work that relates to three on one

[28:25] there's a lot of work that relates to three on one

[28:25] there's a lot of work that relates to three on one complaints in those areas, and

[28:25] relates to three on one complaints in those areas, and

[28:25] relates to three on one complaints in those areas, and in particular as outlined in

[28:27] complaints in those areas, and in particular as outlined in

[28:27] complaints in those areas, and in particular as outlined in the report and the special

[28:29] in particular as outlined in the report and the special

[28:29] in particular as outlined in the report and the special operation zone in those areas,

[28:30] the report and the special operation zone in those areas,

[28:31] the report and the special operation zone in those areas, we have far more three on one

[28:32] operation zone in those areas, we have far more three on one

[28:32] operation zone in those areas, we have far more three on one complaints typically, which

[28:33] we have far more three on one complaints typically, which

[28:33] we have far more three on one complaints typically, which requires us to be out there

[28:36] complaints typically, which requires us to be out there

[28:36] complaints typically, which requires us to be out there more often in person, on the

[28:37] requires us to be out there more often in person, on the

[28:38] requires us to be out there more often in person, on the ground, as well as in constant

[28:40] more often in person, on the ground, as well as in constant

[28:40] more often in person, on the ground, as well as in constant contact with companies related

[28:42] ground, as well as in constant contact with companies related

[28:42] ground, as well as in constant contact with companies related to the adjustments needed to to

[28:46] contact with companies related to the adjustments needed to to

[28:46] contact with companies related to the adjustments needed to to rectify complaint issues. We

[28:47] to the adjustments needed to to rectify complaint issues. We

[28:47] to the adjustments needed to to rectify complaint issues. We give the companies two hours to

[28:49] rectify complaint issues. We give the companies two hours to

[28:49] rectify complaint issues. We give the companies two hours to do that and we audit the

[28:50] give the companies two hours to do that and we audit the

[28:50] give the companies two hours to do that and we audit the complaint. So bear in mind

[28:52] do that and we audit the complaint. So bear in mind

[28:52] do that and we audit the complaint. So bear in mind there are roughly 15,000

[28:54] complaint. So bear in mind there are roughly 15,000

[28:54] complaint. So bear in mind there are roughly 15,000 scooters on the right of way at

[28:55] there are roughly 15,000 scooters on the right of way at

[28:55] there are roughly 15,000 scooters on the right of way at a given on a given day

[28:57] scooters on the right of way at a given on a given day

[28:57] scooters on the right of way at a given on a given day throughout the city of Los

[28:58] a given on a given day throughout the city of Los

[28:58] a given on a given day throughout the city of Los Angeles. So part of the

[28:59] throughout the city of Los Angeles. So part of the

[28:59] throughout the city of Los Angeles. So part of the geography of that is looking at

[29:01] Angeles. So part of the geography of that is looking at

[29:01] Angeles. So part of the geography of that is looking at the data, determining if there

[29:02] geography of that is looking at the data, determining if there

[29:02] geography of that is looking at the data, determining if there are anomalies within the data,

[29:04] the data, determining if there are anomalies within the data,

[29:04] the data, determining if there are anomalies within the data, and then going into those areas

[29:05] are anomalies within the data, and then going into those areas

[29:05] are anomalies within the data, and then going into those areas to ensure that that we're

[29:08] and then going into those areas to ensure that that we're

[29:09] and then going into those areas to ensure that that we're validating what we're seeing in

[29:10] to ensure that that we're validating what we're seeing in

[29:10] to ensure that that we're validating what we're seeing in the data. On the administrative

[29:12] validating what we're seeing in the data. On the administrative

[29:12] validating what we're seeing in the data. On the administrative side, we also manage day to day

[29:15] the data. On the administrative side, we also manage day to day

[29:15] the data. On the administrative side, we also manage day to day processes, including special

[29:17] side, we also manage day to day processes, including special

[29:17] side, we also manage day to day processes, including special events. I, you know, USC

[29:20] processes, including special events. I, you know, USC

[29:20] processes, including special events. I, you know, USC football games, establishing

[29:21] events. I, you know, USC football games, establishing

[29:22] events. I, you know, USC football games, establishing Geofences, establishing

[29:23] football games, establishing Geofences, establishing

[29:23] football games, establishing Geofences, establishing geofences for marathons,

[29:25] Geofences, establishing geofences for marathons,

[29:25] Geofences, establishing geofences for marathons, whether they're temporary or

[29:27] geofences for marathons, whether they're temporary or

[29:27] geofences for marathons, whether they're temporary or permanent. So we do a lot of

[29:29] whether they're temporary or permanent. So we do a lot of

[29:29] whether they're temporary or permanent. So we do a lot of that day to day activity,

[29:30] permanent. So we do a lot of that day to day activity,

[29:30] permanent. So we do a lot of that day to day activity, responding to issues, whether

[29:33] that day to day activity, responding to issues, whether

[29:33] that day to day activity, responding to issues, whether it's from, again, three on one

[29:36] responding to issues, whether it's from, again, three on one

[29:36] responding to issues, whether it's from, again, three on one or the public or council office.

[29:38] it's from, again, three on one or the public or council office.

[29:38] it's from, again, three on one or the public or council office. And then related to also simply

[29:40] or the public or council office. And then related to also simply

[29:40] or the public or council office. And then related to also simply working with the companies to

[29:42] And then related to also simply working with the companies to

[29:42] And then related to also simply working with the companies to ensure that we're getting the

[29:44] working with the companies to ensure that we're getting the

[29:44] working with the companies to ensure that we're getting the right kind of distribution and

[29:46] ensure that we're getting the right kind of distribution and

[29:46] ensure that we're getting the right kind of distribution and rebalancing within the city. So

[29:47] right kind of distribution and rebalancing within the city. So

[29:47] right kind of distribution and rebalancing within the city. So there's a lot of that that's

[29:49] rebalancing within the city. So there's a lot of that that's

[29:49] rebalancing within the city. So there's a lot of that that's involved. Great. Thank you. How

[29:52] there's a lot of that that's involved. Great. Thank you. How

[29:52] there's a lot of that that's involved. Great. Thank you. How sensitive is the fee model to

[29:53] involved. Great. Thank you. How sensitive is the fee model to

[29:53] involved. Great. Thank you. How sensitive is the fee model to changes in trip behavior in 311

[29:55] sensitive is the fee model to changes in trip behavior in 311

[29:55] sensitive is the fee model to changes in trip behavior in 311 requests? Well, in terms of

[30:01] changes in trip behavior in 311 requests? Well, in terms of

[30:01] changes in trip behavior in 311 requests? Well, in terms of trip behavior, the fee model is

[30:04] requests? Well, in terms of trip behavior, the fee model is

[30:04] requests? Well, in terms of trip behavior, the fee model is sensitive in the sense that if

[30:05] trip behavior, the fee model is sensitive in the sense that if

[30:05] trip behavior, the fee model is sensitive in the sense that if there are more under trip fee

[30:07] sensitive in the sense that if there are more under trip fee

[30:07] sensitive in the sense that if there are more under trip fee structure, the idea being if

[30:08] there are more under trip fee structure, the idea being if

[30:08] there are more under trip fee structure, the idea being if there are more trips that would

[30:10] structure, the idea being if there are more trips that would

[30:10] structure, the idea being if there are more trips that would require more work on our behalf,

[30:12] there are more trips that would require more work on our behalf,

[30:12] there are more trips that would require more work on our behalf, because that would likely

[30:13] require more work on our behalf, because that would likely

[30:13] require more work on our behalf, because that would likely engender more complaints

[30:14] because that would likely engender more complaints

[30:14] because that would likely engender more complaints related to more vehicles, more

[30:16] engender more complaints related to more vehicles, more

[30:16] engender more complaints related to more vehicles, more trips, things of that nature.

[30:17] related to more vehicles, more trips, things of that nature.

[30:17] related to more vehicles, more trips, things of that nature. So we would think that as you

[30:20] trips, things of that nature. So we would think that as you

[30:20] trips, things of that nature. So we would think that as you know, as companies scale higher,

[30:22] So we would think that as you know, as companies scale higher,

[30:22] So we would think that as you know, as companies scale higher, the number of devices on the

[30:24] know, as companies scale higher, the number of devices on the

[30:24] know, as companies scale higher, the number of devices on the right of way as well as scale

[30:26] the number of devices on the right of way as well as scale

[30:26] the number of devices on the right of way as well as scale the ridership, we expect that

[30:27] right of way as well as scale the ridership, we expect that

[30:27] right of way as well as scale the ridership, we expect that there will be more activity and

[30:29] the ridership, we expect that there will be more activity and

[30:29] the ridership, we expect that there will be more activity and work for staff to be out there

[30:32] there will be more activity and work for staff to be out there

[30:32] there will be more activity and work for staff to be out there to help manage the program. And

[30:35] work for staff to be out there to help manage the program. And

[30:35] work for staff to be out there to help manage the program. And just to, if I may, to add on to

[30:37] to help manage the program. And just to, if I may, to add on to

[30:37] to help manage the program. And just to, if I may, to add on to that, though, I do want to

[30:39] just to, if I may, to add on to that, though, I do want to

[30:39] just to, if I may, to add on to that, though, I do want to state that the data that we had

[30:40] that, though, I do want to state that the data that we had

[30:40] that, though, I do want to state that the data that we had for both fiscal year 2024 and

[30:42] state that the data that we had for both fiscal year 2024 and

[30:42] state that the data that we had for both fiscal year 2024 and 2025 was for the trips and for

[30:44] for both fiscal year 2024 and 2025 was for the trips and for

[30:44] for both fiscal year 2024 and 2025 was for the trips and for the 311 request, and we saw

[30:45] 2025 was for the trips and for the 311 request, and we saw

[30:45] 2025 was for the trips and for the 311 request, and we saw that they were pretty

[30:46] the 311 request, and we saw that they were pretty

[30:46] the 311 request, and we saw that they were pretty consistent. We looked at sort

[30:47] that they were pretty consistent. We looked at sort

[30:47] that they were pretty consistent. We looked at sort of the ratio, the proportions,

[30:50] consistent. We looked at sort of the ratio, the proportions,

[30:50] consistent. We looked at sort of the ratio, the proportions, and we saw that across the two

[30:52] of the ratio, the proportions, and we saw that across the two

[30:52] of the ratio, the proportions, and we saw that across the two years, there was sort of a

[30:53] and we saw that across the two years, there was sort of a

[30:53] and we saw that across the two years, there was sort of a consistency in how many

[30:54] years, there was sort of a consistency in how many

[30:54] years, there was sort of a consistency in how many requests were coming from these

[30:55] consistency in how many requests were coming from these

[30:55] consistency in how many requests were coming from these various geographic regions. So

[30:57] requests were coming from these various geographic regions. So

[30:57] requests were coming from these various geographic regions. So I would interpret that to say

[31:00] various geographic regions. So I would interpret that to say

[31:00] various geographic regions. So I would interpret that to say that it's maybe not that

[31:01] I would interpret that to say that it's maybe not that

[31:01] I would interpret that to say that it's maybe not that sensitive to it, but not to ly

[31:04] that it's maybe not that sensitive to it, but not to ly

[31:04] that it's maybe not that sensitive to it, but not to ly what Jarvis is saying around if

[31:05] sensitive to it, but not to ly what Jarvis is saying around if

[31:05] sensitive to it, but not to ly what Jarvis is saying around if there is an increase, what that

[31:07] what Jarvis is saying around if there is an increase, what that

[31:07] what Jarvis is saying around if there is an increase, what that may mean to the program cost

[31:08] there is an increase, what that may mean to the program cost

[31:08] there is an increase, what that may mean to the program cost overall. Great. Thank you

[31:10] may mean to the program cost overall. Great. Thank you

[31:10] may mean to the program cost overall. Great. Thank you chairman, I do thank you. I

[31:13] overall. Great. Thank you chairman, I do thank you. I

[31:13] overall. Great. Thank you chairman, I do thank you. I have a few more. I'll pass it

[31:15] chairman, I do thank you. I have a few more. I'll pass it

[31:15] chairman, I do thank you. I have a few more. I'll pass it to you. Go back. Oh, sure. Well

[31:16] have a few more. I'll pass it to you. Go back. Oh, sure. Well

[31:16] have a few more. I'll pass it to you. Go back. Oh, sure. Well thank you. I have a few

[31:19] to you. Go back. Oh, sure. Well thank you. I have a few

[31:19] to you. Go back. Oh, sure. Well thank you. I have a few questions as well. What kind of

[31:20] thank you. I have a few questions as well. What kind of

[31:21] thank you. I have a few questions as well. What kind of growth do we expect with this

[31:22] questions as well. What kind of growth do we expect with this

[31:22] questions as well. What kind of growth do we expect with this program between now and the

[31:24] growth do we expect with this program between now and the

[31:24] growth do we expect with this program between now and the Olympics? We do expect that's a

[31:28] program between now and the Olympics? We do expect that's a

[31:28] program between now and the Olympics? We do expect that's a new question that we do expect

[31:29] Olympics? We do expect that's a new question that we do expect

[31:29] Olympics? We do expect that's a new question that we do expect a significant growth. We've

[31:31] new question that we do expect a significant growth. We've

[31:31] new question that we do expect a significant growth. We've already discussed with the

[31:33] a significant growth. We've already discussed with the

[31:33] a significant growth. We've already discussed with the companies, particularly the

[31:33] already discussed with the companies, particularly the

[31:33] already discussed with the companies, particularly the larger ones, about the kind of

[31:35] companies, particularly the larger ones, about the kind of

[31:35] companies, particularly the larger ones, about the kind of growth that they expect to meet,

[31:37] larger ones, about the kind of growth that they expect to meet,

[31:37] larger ones, about the kind of growth that they expect to meet, the demand of what they believe

[31:39] growth that they expect to meet, the demand of what they believe

[31:39] growth that they expect to meet, the demand of what they believe will happen for the Olympics.

[31:40] the demand of what they believe will happen for the Olympics.

[31:40] the demand of what they believe will happen for the Olympics. And granted, the Olympics are a

[31:41] will happen for the Olympics. And granted, the Olympics are a

[31:41] will happen for the Olympics. And granted, the Olympics are a little over two years away, so

[31:43] And granted, the Olympics are a little over two years away, so

[31:43] And granted, the Olympics are a little over two years away, so we are expecting some growth.

[31:45] little over two years away, so we are expecting some growth.

[31:45] little over two years away, so we are expecting some growth. We will get a better sense

[31:47] we are expecting some growth. We will get a better sense

[31:47] we are expecting some growth. We will get a better sense after FIFA this summer in terms

[31:50] We will get a better sense after FIFA this summer in terms

[31:50] We will get a better sense after FIFA this summer in terms of special event growth, but we

[31:51] after FIFA this summer in terms of special event growth, but we

[31:51] after FIFA this summer in terms of special event growth, but we are expecting some growth to to

[31:52] of special event growth, but we are expecting some growth to to

[31:53] of special event growth, but we are expecting some growth to to manage the demand of the

[31:54] are expecting some growth to to manage the demand of the

[31:54] are expecting some growth to to manage the demand of the Olympics. And then are we aware

[31:56] manage the demand of the Olympics. And then are we aware

[31:56] manage the demand of the Olympics. And then are we aware of any illegal operators that

[31:59] Olympics. And then are we aware of any illegal operators that

[31:59] Olympics. And then are we aware of any illegal operators that we have currently in place to

[32:01] of any illegal operators that we have currently in place to

[32:01] of any illegal operators that we have currently in place to enforce against operators who

[32:03] we have currently in place to enforce against operators who

[32:03] we have currently in place to enforce against operators who are not permitted? I don't know

[32:06] enforce against operators who are not permitted? I don't know

[32:06] enforce against operators who are not permitted? I don't know that we have any currently, but

[32:08] are not permitted? I don't know that we have any currently, but

[32:08] are not permitted? I don't know that we have any currently, but we have had an issue with a

[32:09] that we have any currently, but we have had an issue with a

[32:09] that we have any currently, but we have had an issue with a particular company that

[32:10] we have had an issue with a particular company that

[32:10] we have had an issue with a particular company that operates around Cal State

[32:12] particular company that operates around Cal State

[32:12] particular company that operates around Cal State Northridge that is not

[32:14] operates around Cal State Northridge that is not

[32:14] operates around Cal State Northridge that is not permitted company. They were

[32:15] Northridge that is not permitted company. They were

[32:15] Northridge that is not permitted company. They were they had a permit with us

[32:17] permitted company. They were they had a permit with us

[32:17] permitted company. They were they had a permit with us before, but because they

[32:18] they had a permit with us before, but because they

[32:18] they had a permit with us before, but because they weren't giving us the proper

[32:19] before, but because they weren't giving us the proper

[32:19] before, but because they weren't giving us the proper data and their data was it was

[32:21] weren't giving us the proper data and their data was it was

[32:21] weren't giving us the proper data and their data was it was bad data essentially, so we

[32:22] data and their data was it was bad data essentially, so we

[32:22] data and their data was it was bad data essentially, so we weren't able to monitor them

[32:24] bad data essentially, so we weren't able to monitor them

[32:24] bad data essentially, so we weren't able to monitor them properly and they weren't able

[32:25] weren't able to monitor them properly and they weren't able

[32:25] weren't able to monitor them properly and they weren't able to correct it. We suspended and

[32:27] properly and they weren't able to correct it. We suspended and

[32:27] properly and they weren't able to correct it. We suspended and eventually did not renew their

[32:29] to correct it. We suspended and eventually did not renew their

[32:29] to correct it. We suspended and eventually did not renew their license. But we've every once

[32:31] eventually did not renew their license. But we've every once

[32:31] eventually did not renew their license. But we've every once in a while we hear rumors that,

[32:32] license. But we've every once in a while we hear rumors that,

[32:32] license. But we've every once in a while we hear rumors that, hey, this company is out here.

[32:35] in a while we hear rumors that, hey, this company is out here.

[32:35] in a while we hear rumors that, hey, this company is out here. We I haven't checked that and

[32:36] hey, this company is out here. We I haven't checked that and

[32:36] hey, this company is out here. We I haven't checked that and maybe the last few months, but

[32:38] We I haven't checked that and maybe the last few months, but

[32:38] We I haven't checked that and maybe the last few months, but it's one company in particular

[32:39] maybe the last few months, but it's one company in particular

[32:39] maybe the last few months, but it's one company in particular that hangs out around Cal State

[32:41] it's one company in particular that hangs out around Cal State

[32:41] it's one company in particular that hangs out around Cal State Northridge. And then besides

[32:44] that hangs out around Cal State Northridge. And then besides

[32:44] that hangs out around Cal State Northridge. And then besides full cost recovery, what are

[32:45] Northridge. And then besides full cost recovery, what are

[32:45] Northridge. And then besides full cost recovery, what are the current challenges and

[32:47] full cost recovery, what are the current challenges and

[32:47] full cost recovery, what are the current challenges and opportunities for the city with

[32:49] the current challenges and opportunities for the city with

[32:49] the current challenges and opportunities for the city with the continuation of this

[32:51] opportunities for the city with the continuation of this

[32:51] opportunities for the city with the continuation of this program? Well, the continue

[32:54] the continuation of this program? Well, the continue

[32:55] the continuation of this program? Well, the continue opportunity is that it's it's

[32:56] program? Well, the continue opportunity is that it's it's

[32:56] program? Well, the continue opportunity is that it's it's as we can see from the

[32:57] opportunity is that it's it's as we can see from the

[32:57] opportunity is that it's it's as we can see from the ridership, and we do believe

[32:59] as we can see from the ridership, and we do believe

[32:59] as we can see from the ridership, and we do believe ridership will grow. It's

[33:01] ridership, and we do believe ridership will grow. It's

[33:01] ridership, and we do believe ridership will grow. It's clearly a last mile solution

[33:03] ridership will grow. It's clearly a last mile solution

[33:03] ridership will grow. It's clearly a last mile solution for for many users. And so in

[33:06] clearly a last mile solution for for many users. And so in

[33:06] clearly a last mile solution for for many users. And so in terms of that opportunity, we

[33:07] for for many users. And so in terms of that opportunity, we

[33:07] for for many users. And so in terms of that opportunity, we think that that's important.

[33:09] terms of that opportunity, we think that that's important.

[33:09] terms of that opportunity, we think that that's important. The challenge I think for us

[33:11] think that that's important. The challenge I think for us

[33:11] think that that's important. The challenge I think for us really is, you know, not

[33:13] The challenge I think for us really is, you know, not

[33:13] The challenge I think for us really is, you know, not necessarily program related,

[33:14] really is, you know, not necessarily program related,

[33:14] really is, you know, not necessarily program related, but really more about

[33:16] necessarily program related, but really more about

[33:16] necessarily program related, but really more about infrastructure, because part of

[33:17] but really more about infrastructure, because part of

[33:18] but really more about infrastructure, because part of what we really feel will help

[33:19] infrastructure, because part of what we really feel will help

[33:19] infrastructure, because part of what we really feel will help the program really stabilize is

[33:22] what we really feel will help the program really stabilize is

[33:22] what we really feel will help the program really stabilize is the right kind of

[33:23] the program really stabilize is the right kind of

[33:23] the program really stabilize is the right kind of infrastructure. And that would

[33:24] the right kind of infrastructure. And that would

[33:24] the right kind of infrastructure. And that would include for us bike lanes and,

[33:26] infrastructure. And that would include for us bike lanes and,

[33:26] infrastructure. And that would include for us bike lanes and, and eventually trying to

[33:27] include for us bike lanes and, and eventually trying to

[33:27] include for us bike lanes and, and eventually trying to develop better parking areas

[33:29] and eventually trying to develop better parking areas

[33:29] and eventually trying to develop better parking areas for program. And my last

[33:33] develop better parking areas for program. And my last

[33:33] develop better parking areas for program. And my last question, Madam Chair, what are

[33:34] for program. And my last question, Madam Chair, what are

[33:34] for program. And my last question, Madam Chair, what are the current permit fees and

[33:37] question, Madam Chair, what are the current permit fees and

[33:37] question, Madam Chair, what are the current permit fees and other jurisdictions of similar

[33:38] the current permit fees and other jurisdictions of similar

[33:38] the current permit fees and other jurisdictions of similar size to Los Angeles, like maybe

[33:41] other jurisdictions of similar size to Los Angeles, like maybe

[33:41] other jurisdictions of similar size to Los Angeles, like maybe Chicago in Chicago, their trip

[33:45] size to Los Angeles, like maybe Chicago in Chicago, their trip

[33:45] size to Los Angeles, like maybe Chicago in Chicago, their trip fee, I believe it's $250,000

[33:47] Chicago in Chicago, their trip fee, I believe it's $250,000

[33:47] Chicago in Chicago, their trip fee, I believe it's $250,000 for two years, so basically

[33:50] fee, I believe it's $250,000 for two years, so basically

[33:50] fee, I believe it's $250,000 for two years, so basically $125,000 a year. But it's

[33:51] for two years, so basically $125,000 a year. But it's

[33:51] for two years, so basically $125,000 a year. But it's really difficult to make the

[33:53] $125,000 a year. But it's really difficult to make the

[33:53] $125,000 a year. But it's really difficult to make the comparison because it's not

[33:54] really difficult to make the comparison because it's not

[33:54] really difficult to make the comparison because it's not truly apples to apples. And

[33:55] comparison because it's not truly apples to apples. And

[33:55] comparison because it's not truly apples to apples. And that's because our program,

[33:58] truly apples to apples. And that's because our program,

[33:58] truly apples to apples. And that's because our program, unlike many other cities, is a

[33:59] that's because our program, unlike many other cities, is a

[33:59] that's because our program, unlike many other cities, is a citywide program. What you will

[34:01] unlike many other cities, is a citywide program. What you will

[34:01] unlike many other cities, is a citywide program. What you will see in many other cities and

[34:03] citywide program. What you will see in many other cities and

[34:03] citywide program. What you will see in many other cities and jurisdictions is it's limited.

[34:04] see in many other cities and jurisdictions is it's limited.

[34:04] see in many other cities and jurisdictions is it's limited. You know, it's a downtown

[34:05] jurisdictions is it's limited. You know, it's a downtown

[34:05] jurisdictions is it's limited. You know, it's a downtown program or it's a program for a

[34:07] You know, it's a downtown program or it's a program for a

[34:08] You know, it's a downtown program or it's a program for a particular area of the city.

[34:09] program or it's a program for a particular area of the city.

[34:09] program or it's a program for a particular area of the city. And it's not something that

[34:11] particular area of the city. And it's not something that

[34:11] particular area of the city. And it's not something that it's throughout the city. Our

[34:13] And it's not something that it's throughout the city. Our

[34:13] And it's not something that it's throughout the city. Our program is much more varied and

[34:14] it's throughout the city. Our program is much more varied and

[34:15] it's throughout the city. Our program is much more varied and throughout the city. The other

[34:16] program is much more varied and throughout the city. The other

[34:16] program is much more varied and throughout the city. The other issue that you will see is we

[34:19] throughout the city. The other issue that you will see is we

[34:19] throughout the city. The other issue that you will see is we basically we're basically the

[34:20] issue that you will see is we basically we're basically the

[34:20] issue that you will see is we basically we're basically the standard bearers of the program.

[34:21] basically we're basically the standard bearers of the program.

[34:21] basically we're basically the standard bearers of the program. We're one of the largest

[34:22] standard bearers of the program. We're one of the largest

[34:22] standard bearers of the program. We're one of the largest programs. And so when I when we

[34:25] We're one of the largest programs. And so when I when we

[34:26] We're one of the largest programs. And so when I when we think about that, we look at

[34:27] programs. And so when I when we think about that, we look at

[34:27] programs. And so when I when we think about that, we look at cities like smaller cities like

[34:28] think about that, we look at cities like smaller cities like

[34:28] think about that, we look at cities like smaller cities like San Francisco, which has a

[34:30] cities like smaller cities like San Francisco, which has a

[34:30] cities like smaller cities like San Francisco, which has a significant program. But

[34:32] San Francisco, which has a significant program. But

[34:32] San Francisco, which has a significant program. But they're these are, I want to

[34:34] significant program. But they're these are, I want to

[34:34] significant program. But they're these are, I want to say about 80,000 is a permit

[34:36] they're these are, I want to say about 80,000 is a permit

[34:36] they're these are, I want to say about 80,000 is a permit fee. And then they actually

[34:38] say about 80,000 is a permit fee. And then they actually

[34:38] say about 80,000 is a permit fee. And then they actually they add an additional about

[34:40] fee. And then they actually they add an additional about

[34:40] fee. And then they actually they add an additional about the same amount, 80, 90,000 as

[34:41] they add an additional about the same amount, 80, 90,000 as

[34:41] they add an additional about the same amount, 80, 90,000 as an infrastructure fee because

[34:44] the same amount, 80, 90,000 as an infrastructure fee because

[34:44] the same amount, 80, 90,000 as an infrastructure fee because they build essentially they

[34:46] an infrastructure fee because they build essentially they

[34:46] an infrastructure fee because they build essentially they build bike racks in order for

[34:48] they build essentially they build bike racks in order for

[34:48] they build essentially they build bike racks in order for the vehicles to be locked to

[34:49] build bike racks in order for the vehicles to be locked to

[34:49] build bike racks in order for the vehicles to be locked to because there's not enough bike

[34:51] the vehicles to be locked to because there's not enough bike

[34:51] the vehicles to be locked to because there's not enough bike racks in the area. So they

[34:52] because there's not enough bike racks in the area. So they

[34:52] because there's not enough bike racks in the area. So they charge that amount annually to

[34:54] racks in the area. So they charge that amount annually to

[34:54] racks in the area. So they charge that amount annually to cover that cost per company.

[34:56] charge that amount annually to cover that cost per company.

[34:56] charge that amount annually to cover that cost per company. Seattle has a much lower permit

[34:59] cover that cost per company. Seattle has a much lower permit

[34:59] cover that cost per company. Seattle has a much lower permit fee than we do, but their

[35:01] Seattle has a much lower permit fee than we do, but their

[35:01] Seattle has a much lower permit fee than we do, but their program is beginning to scale,

[35:03] fee than we do, but their program is beginning to scale,

[35:03] fee than we do, but their program is beginning to scale, and so we don't know what

[35:04] program is beginning to scale, and so we don't know what

[35:04] program is beginning to scale, and so we don't know what that's going to look like as

[35:06] and so we don't know what that's going to look like as

[35:06] and so we don't know what that's going to look like as the years go by or as the year

[35:08] that's going to look like as the years go by or as the year

[35:08] that's going to look like as the years go by or as the year goes by. But they've been a

[35:09] the years go by or as the year goes by. But they've been a

[35:09] the years go by or as the year goes by. But they've been a smaller program up until

[35:10] goes by. But they've been a smaller program up until

[35:10] goes by. But they've been a smaller program up until recently. And similarly with

[35:11] smaller program up until recently. And similarly with

[35:11] smaller program up until recently. And similarly with Chicago, I believe they will be

[35:13] recently. And similarly with Chicago, I believe they will be

[35:14] recently. And similarly with Chicago, I believe they will be looking at changing their fees

[35:16] Chicago, I believe they will be looking at changing their fees

[35:16] Chicago, I believe they will be looking at changing their fees probably around the summer of

[35:17] looking at changing their fees probably around the summer of

[35:17] looking at changing their fees probably around the summer of this year, this new fiscal year

[35:19] probably around the summer of this year, this new fiscal year

[35:19] probably around the summer of this year, this new fiscal year 2026, up or down that I don't

[35:21] this year, this new fiscal year 2026, up or down that I don't

[35:22] this year, this new fiscal year 2026, up or down that I don't know. Okay. That's all. Thank

[35:25] 2026, up or down that I don't know. Okay. That's all. Thank

[35:25] 2026, up or down that I don't know. Okay. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. I just have a

[35:28] know. Okay. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. I just have a

[35:28] know. Okay. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. I just have a couple more questions. I'll

[35:29] you. Thank you. I just have a couple more questions. I'll

[35:29] you. Thank you. I just have a couple more questions. I'll pass it to other colleagues

[35:30] couple more questions. I'll pass it to other colleagues

[35:30] couple more questions. I'll pass it to other colleagues that might have questions. In

[35:33] pass it to other colleagues that might have questions. In

[35:33] pass it to other colleagues that might have questions. In your proposed fee structure.

[35:35] that might have questions. In your proposed fee structure.

[35:35] that might have questions. In your proposed fee structure. Why is the additional fee in

[35:36] your proposed fee structure. Why is the additional fee in

[35:36] your proposed fee structure. Why is the additional fee in the equity focused zone higher

[35:39] Why is the additional fee in the equity focused zone higher

[35:39] Why is the additional fee in the equity focused zone higher than the standard permitted

[35:40] the equity focused zone higher than the standard permitted

[35:41] the equity focused zone higher than the standard permitted district, especially given that

[35:43] than the standard permitted district, especially given that

[35:43] than the standard permitted district, especially given that equity zones are categorized as

[35:45] district, especially given that equity zones are categorized as

[35:45] district, especially given that equity zones are categorized as areas with economic and

[35:47] equity zones are categorized as areas with economic and

[35:47] equity zones are categorized as areas with economic and transportation disadvantages?

[35:49] areas with economic and transportation disadvantages?

[35:49] areas with economic and transportation disadvantages? Yeah. No, I appreciate that

[35:50] transportation disadvantages? Yeah. No, I appreciate that

[35:50] transportation disadvantages? Yeah. No, I appreciate that question. The reason is because

[35:52] Yeah. No, I appreciate that question. The reason is because

[35:52] Yeah. No, I appreciate that question. The reason is because with our analysis, basing it

[35:54] question. The reason is because with our analysis, basing it

[35:54] question. The reason is because with our analysis, basing it off of the data that we have

[35:55] with our analysis, basing it off of the data that we have

[35:56] with our analysis, basing it off of the data that we have available for the program, this

[35:57] off of the data that we have available for the program, this

[35:57] off of the data that we have available for the program, this is what that data shows us,

[35:59] available for the program, this is what that data shows us,

[35:59] available for the program, this is what that data shows us, that the standard operating

[36:02] is what that data shows us, that the standard operating

[36:02] is what that data shows us, that the standard operating operation zone would have a

[36:03] that the standard operating operation zone would have a

[36:03] that the standard operating operation zone would have a slightly higher fee based on

[36:04] operation zone would have a slightly higher fee based on

[36:04] operation zone would have a slightly higher fee based on the workload that is being done

[36:07] slightly higher fee based on the workload that is being done

[36:07] slightly higher fee based on the workload that is being done there, and the workload is the

[36:10] the workload that is being done there, and the workload is the

[36:10] the workload that is being done there, and the workload is the auditing, investigating,

[36:12] there, and the workload is the auditing, investigating,

[36:12] there, and the workload is the auditing, investigating, picking up. That's what you're

[36:14] auditing, investigating, picking up. That's what you're

[36:14] auditing, investigating, picking up. That's what you're talking about. Okay. Which I

[36:19] picking up. That's what you're talking about. Okay. Which I

[36:19] picking up. That's what you're talking about. Okay. Which I understand that. But also like

[36:19] talking about. Okay. Which I understand that. But also like

[36:19] talking about. Okay. Which I understand that. But also like if it's the the neighborhoods

[36:22] understand that. But also like if it's the the neighborhoods

[36:22] understand that. But also like if it's the the neighborhoods that have the least access to

[36:24] if it's the the neighborhoods that have the least access to

[36:24] if it's the the neighborhoods that have the least access to resources, they're probably

[36:25] that have the least access to resources, they're probably

[36:25] that have the least access to resources, they're probably going to be the higher

[36:27] resources, they're probably going to be the higher

[36:27] resources, they're probably going to be the higher utilizers than perhaps other

[36:28] going to be the higher utilizers than perhaps other

[36:28] going to be the higher utilizers than perhaps other neighborhoods. So I would love

[36:29] utilizers than perhaps other neighborhoods. So I would love

[36:30] utilizers than perhaps other neighborhoods. So I would love to for us to come back to that

[36:31] neighborhoods. So I would love to for us to come back to that

[36:32] neighborhoods. So I would love to for us to come back to that conversation to figure it out.

[36:32] to for us to come back to that conversation to figure it out.

[36:33] to for us to come back to that conversation to figure it out. But I want to pass it to my

[36:34] conversation to figure it out. But I want to pass it to my

[36:35] conversation to figure it out. But I want to pass it to my other colleagues and go ahead.

[36:36] But I want to pass it to my other colleagues and go ahead.

[36:36] But I want to pass it to my other colleagues and go ahead. Anybody I want to go ahead. Can

[36:39] other colleagues and go ahead. Anybody I want to go ahead. Can

[36:40] other colleagues and go ahead. Anybody I want to go ahead. Can you elaborate on that? Is it

[36:42] Anybody I want to go ahead. Can you elaborate on that? Is it

[36:42] Anybody I want to go ahead. Can you elaborate on that? Is it because of the assumption that

[36:43] you elaborate on that? Is it because of the assumption that

[36:43] you elaborate on that? Is it because of the assumption that there's more use or more pickup?

[36:45] because of the assumption that there's more use or more pickup?

[36:45] because of the assumption that there's more use or more pickup? Is it that they're more

[36:47] there's more use or more pickup? Is it that they're more

[36:47] there's more use or more pickup? Is it that they're more scattered so requires more

[36:48] Is it that they're more scattered so requires more

[36:48] Is it that they're more scattered so requires more staff to pick them up? I mean,

[36:50] scattered so requires more staff to pick them up? I mean,

[36:50] scattered so requires more staff to pick them up? I mean, it makes no sense to me. I can

[36:51] staff to pick them up? I mean, it makes no sense to me. I can

[36:51] staff to pick them up? I mean, it makes no sense to me. I can speak to the data, but I would

[36:53] it makes no sense to me. I can speak to the data, but I would

[36:53] it makes no sense to me. I can speak to the data, but I would look, Jarvis. Yeah, tell us

[36:54] speak to the data, but I would look, Jarvis. Yeah, tell us

[36:54] speak to the data, but I would look, Jarvis. Yeah, tell us what the data is showing. The

[36:56] look, Jarvis. Yeah, tell us what the data is showing. The

[36:56] look, Jarvis. Yeah, tell us what the data is showing. The data is showing how this is

[36:57] what the data is showing. The data is showing how this is

[36:57] what the data is showing. The data is showing how this is broken down here. You'll see

[36:59] data is showing how this is broken down here. You'll see

[36:59] data is showing how this is broken down here. You'll see that percentage of the average

[37:00] broken down here. You'll see that percentage of the average

[37:00] broken down here. You'll see that percentage of the average of 311 request in the chart on

[37:02] that percentage of the average of 311 request in the chart on

[37:03] that percentage of the average of 311 request in the chart on the sixth page of the Cao

[37:04] of 311 request in the chart on the sixth page of the Cao

[37:04] of 311 request in the chart on the sixth page of the Cao report. And that shows just the

[37:06] the sixth page of the Cao report. And that shows just the

[37:06] the sixth page of the Cao report. And that shows just the number of 311 requests we're

[37:08] report. And that shows just the number of 311 requests we're

[37:08] report. And that shows just the number of 311 requests we're getting from these different

[37:09] number of 311 requests we're getting from these different

[37:09] number of 311 requests we're getting from these different regions. That based out by the

[37:12] getting from these different regions. That based out by the

[37:12] getting from these different regions. That based out by the the average number of trips for

[37:13] regions. That based out by the the average number of trips for

[37:13] regions. That based out by the the average number of trips for that region is how we got to

[37:15] the average number of trips for that region is how we got to

[37:15] the average number of trips for that region is how we got to the fee that we present. So

[37:17] that region is how we got to the fee that we present. So

[37:17] that region is how we got to the fee that we present. So with that, we're just seeing a

[37:19] the fee that we present. So with that, we're just seeing a

[37:19] the fee that we present. So with that, we're just seeing a slightly higher amount for the

[37:20] with that, we're just seeing a slightly higher amount for the

[37:20] with that, we're just seeing a slightly higher amount for the standard area. But if there is

[37:22] slightly higher amount for the standard area. But if there is

[37:22] slightly higher amount for the standard area. But if there is an interest in the equity

[37:24] standard area. But if there is an interest in the equity

[37:24] standard area. But if there is an interest in the equity focused zone having a lower fee,

[37:25] an interest in the equity focused zone having a lower fee,

[37:25] an interest in the equity focused zone having a lower fee, that would just be an

[37:26] focused zone having a lower fee, that would just be an

[37:26] focused zone having a lower fee, that would just be an additional subsidy from the

[37:27] that would just be an additional subsidy from the

[37:27] that would just be an additional subsidy from the general fund. I. I want to know

[37:33] additional subsidy from the general fund. I. I want to know

[37:33] additional subsidy from the general fund. I. I want to know more. This information is a

[37:36] general fund. I. I want to know more. This information is a

[37:36] general fund. I. I want to know more. This information is a little bit too in the air for

[37:37] more. This information is a little bit too in the air for

[37:37] more. This information is a little bit too in the air for me. So is it because people are

[37:44] little bit too in the air for me. So is it because people are

[37:44] little bit too in the air for me. So is it because people are getting the scooter in one

[37:46] me. So is it because people are getting the scooter in one

[37:46] me. So is it because people are getting the scooter in one location? And then there's more

[37:47] getting the scooter in one location? And then there's more

[37:47] getting the scooter in one location? And then there's more coming out into these

[37:51] location? And then there's more coming out into these

[37:51] location? And then there's more coming out into these communities, but there's

[37:52] coming out into these communities, but there's

[37:52] coming out into these communities, but there's nowhere. So the company is

[37:53] communities, but there's nowhere. So the company is

[37:53] communities, but there's nowhere. So the company is going in there to pick them up,

[37:54] nowhere. So the company is going in there to pick them up,

[37:55] nowhere. So the company is going in there to pick them up, and it's more scattered. And

[37:56] going in there to pick them up, and it's more scattered. And

[37:56] going in there to pick them up, and it's more scattered. And that's what requires more. Well,

[37:59] and it's more scattered. And that's what requires more. Well,

[37:59] and it's more scattered. And that's what requires more. Well, I mean, I think to me why why

[38:03] that's what requires more. Well, I mean, I think to me why why

[38:03] that's what requires more. Well, I mean, I think to me why why there is more need for for that.

[38:07] I mean, I think to me why why there is more need for for that.

[38:07] I mean, I think to me why why there is more need for for that. So what I think it really is,

[38:09] there is more need for for that. So what I think it really is,

[38:09] there is more need for for that. So what I think it really is, is if you look at the if, if,

[38:11] So what I think it really is, is if you look at the if, if,

[38:11] So what I think it really is, is if you look at the if, if, look at that end zone, that

[38:13] is if you look at the if, if, look at that end zone, that

[38:13] is if you look at the if, if, look at that end zone, that actually is the majority of our

[38:15] look at that end zone, that actually is the majority of our

[38:15] look at that end zone, that actually is the majority of our trips currently. But that I

[38:17] actually is the majority of our trips currently. But that I

[38:17] actually is the majority of our trips currently. But that I believe is picking them up. No,

[38:19] trips currently. But that I believe is picking them up. No,

[38:19] trips currently. But that I believe is picking them up. No, the actual user trips in those

[38:22] believe is picking them up. No, the actual user trips in those

[38:22] believe is picking them up. No, the actual user trips in those areas, even though our special

[38:24] the actual user trips in those areas, even though our special

[38:24] the actual user trips in those areas, even though our special operations zones are really

[38:25] areas, even though our special operations zones are really

[38:25] areas, even though our special operations zones are really about density and rules within

[38:28] operations zones are really about density and rules within

[38:28] operations zones are really about density and rules within those zones and zone, we

[38:30] about density and rules within those zones and zone, we

[38:30] about density and rules within those zones and zone, we actually have a lot of trips.

[38:31] those zones and zone, we actually have a lot of trips.

[38:31] those zones and zone, we actually have a lot of trips. The reason for that you'll

[38:32] actually have a lot of trips. The reason for that you'll

[38:33] actually have a lot of trips. The reason for that you'll often see is because, for

[38:35] The reason for that you'll often see is because, for

[38:35] The reason for that you'll often see is because, for example, downtown is downtown,

[38:37] often see is because, for example, downtown is downtown,

[38:37] often see is because, for example, downtown is downtown, but many of the areas

[38:38] example, downtown is downtown, but many of the areas

[38:38] example, downtown is downtown, but many of the areas surrounding downtown actually

[38:40] but many of the areas surrounding downtown actually

[38:40] but many of the areas surrounding downtown actually are end zones. So you're

[38:42] surrounding downtown actually are end zones. So you're

[38:42] surrounding downtown actually are end zones. So you're crossing the jurisdictions

[38:43] are end zones. So you're crossing the jurisdictions

[38:43] are end zones. So you're crossing the jurisdictions quite often in this particular

[38:45] crossing the jurisdictions quite often in this particular

[38:45] crossing the jurisdictions quite often in this particular area. Los Angeles is built in a

[38:47] quite often in this particular area. Los Angeles is built in a

[38:47] quite often in this particular area. Los Angeles is built in a way that, you know, you have

[38:49] area. Los Angeles is built in a way that, you know, you have

[38:49] area. Los Angeles is built in a way that, you know, you have kind of wealth and lack of

[38:51] way that, you know, you have kind of wealth and lack of

[38:51] way that, you know, you have kind of wealth and lack of wealth really adjacent to one

[38:53] kind of wealth and lack of wealth really adjacent to one

[38:53] kind of wealth and lack of wealth really adjacent to one another. So our zones are often

[38:55] wealth really adjacent to one another. So our zones are often

[38:55] wealth really adjacent to one another. So our zones are often next to, you know, higher

[38:58] another. So our zones are often next to, you know, higher

[38:58] another. So our zones are often next to, you know, higher income zones, believe it or not.

[38:59] next to, you know, higher income zones, believe it or not.

[39:00] next to, you know, higher income zones, believe it or not. And that's just kind of the

[39:01] income zones, believe it or not. And that's just kind of the

[39:01] income zones, believe it or not. And that's just kind of the geography of the way Los

[39:02] And that's just kind of the geography of the way Los

[39:02] And that's just kind of the geography of the way Los Angeles is. I'm still not

[39:06] geography of the way Los Angeles is. I'm still not

[39:06] geography of the way Los Angeles is. I'm still not answering my question. So I

[39:08] Angeles is. I'm still not answering my question. So I

[39:08] Angeles is. I'm still not answering my question. So I guess what I need to know is

[39:09] answering my question. So I guess what I need to know is

[39:10] answering my question. So I guess what I need to know is elaborate on where people pick

[39:11] guess what I need to know is elaborate on where people pick

[39:11] guess what I need to know is elaborate on where people pick up a scooter and where people

[39:13] elaborate on where people pick up a scooter and where people

[39:13] elaborate on where people pick up a scooter and where people drop off scooter, and the cost

[39:15] up a scooter and where people drop off scooter, and the cost

[39:15] up a scooter and where people drop off scooter, and the cost comes at the pickup. And is

[39:17] drop off scooter, and the cost comes at the pickup. And is

[39:17] drop off scooter, and the cost comes at the pickup. And is that because there's not enough

[39:19] comes at the pickup. And is that because there's not enough

[39:19] comes at the pickup. And is that because there's not enough drop off zones in the zones? So

[39:22] that because there's not enough drop off zones in the zones? So

[39:22] that because there's not enough drop off zones in the zones? So therefore requires more picking

[39:24] drop off zones in the zones? So therefore requires more picking

[39:24] drop off zones in the zones? So therefore requires more picking up there and then taking it

[39:25] therefore requires more picking up there and then taking it

[39:25] therefore requires more picking up there and then taking it back to where they originally

[39:28] up there and then taking it back to where they originally

[39:28] up there and then taking it back to where they originally picked up their scooter, you

[39:30] back to where they originally picked up their scooter, you

[39:30] back to where they originally picked up their scooter, you know. And that's because that's

[39:31] picked up their scooter, you know. And that's because that's

[39:31] picked up their scooter, you know. And that's because that's like a conversation we need to

[39:32] know. And that's because that's like a conversation we need to

[39:32] know. And that's because that's like a conversation we need to have with these companies about

[39:33] like a conversation we need to have with these companies about

[39:34] like a conversation we need to have with these companies about having more drop off stations

[39:34] have with these companies about having more drop off stations

[39:35] have with these companies about having more drop off stations so that we don't have to do the

[39:36] having more drop off stations so that we don't have to do the

[39:36] having more drop off stations so that we don't have to do the work. Right. You know, I'd have

[39:38] so that we don't have to do the work. Right. You know, I'd have

[39:38] so that we don't have to do the work. Right. You know, I'd have to come back to you with that

[39:40] work. Right. You know, I'd have to come back to you with that

[39:40] work. Right. You know, I'd have to come back to you with that data. We can get that kind of

[39:41] to come back to you with that data. We can get that kind of

[39:41] to come back to you with that data. We can get that kind of data for you. I don't have it

[39:43] data. We can get that kind of data for you. I don't have it

[39:43] data. We can get that kind of data for you. I don't have it off the top of my head today.

[39:45] data for you. I don't have it off the top of my head today.

[39:45] data for you. I don't have it off the top of my head today. Well, to add some clarifying

[39:46] off the top of my head today. Well, to add some clarifying

[39:46] off the top of my head today. Well, to add some clarifying points here, the this analysis

[39:48] Well, to add some clarifying points here, the this analysis

[39:48] Well, to add some clarifying points here, the this analysis is done based on where trips

[39:50] points here, the this analysis is done based on where trips

[39:50] points here, the this analysis is done based on where trips end, right. The change that Dot

[39:52] is done based on where trips end, right. The change that Dot

[39:53] is done based on where trips end, right. The change that Dot proposed and that we followed

[39:54] end, right. The change that Dot proposed and that we followed

[39:54] end, right. The change that Dot proposed and that we followed with our analysis. So what's

[39:56] proposed and that we followed with our analysis. So what's

[39:56] proposed and that we followed with our analysis. So what's showing here are the number of

[39:57] with our analysis. So what's showing here are the number of

[39:57] with our analysis. So what's showing here are the number of trips that ended in the

[39:59] showing here are the number of trips that ended in the

[39:59] showing here are the number of trips that ended in the standard permitted district.

[40:00] trips that ended in the standard permitted district.

[40:00] trips that ended in the standard permitted district. This may also be tied to if you

[40:02] standard permitted district. This may also be tied to if you

[40:02] standard permitted district. This may also be tied to if you want to speak to a Jarvis. Just

[40:04] This may also be tied to if you want to speak to a Jarvis. Just

[40:04] This may also be tied to if you want to speak to a Jarvis. Just the reason for the different

[40:06] want to speak to a Jarvis. Just the reason for the different

[40:06] want to speak to a Jarvis. Just the reason for the different geographic areas, the

[40:07] the reason for the different geographic areas, the

[40:07] the reason for the different geographic areas, the difference between the mobility

[40:08] geographic areas, the difference between the mobility

[40:08] geographic areas, the difference between the mobility development district and the

[40:09] difference between the mobility development district and the

[40:09] difference between the mobility development district and the standard operation zone or

[40:11] development district and the standard operation zone or

[40:11] development district and the standard operation zone or excuse me, the standard, the

[40:13] standard operation zone or excuse me, the standard, the

[40:13] standard operation zone or excuse me, the standard, the standard permanent district.

[40:13] excuse me, the standard, the standard permanent district.

[40:13] excuse me, the standard, the standard permanent district. Because here's what I'm hearing

[40:15] standard permanent district. Because here's what I'm hearing

[40:15] standard permanent district. Because here's what I'm hearing when you tell me that it costs

[40:16] Because here's what I'm hearing when you tell me that it costs

[40:16] Because here's what I'm hearing when you tell me that it costs more in the equity communities,

[40:20] when you tell me that it costs more in the equity communities,

[40:20] when you tell me that it costs more in the equity communities, it takes me back to when this

[40:22] more in the equity communities, it takes me back to when this

[40:22] more in the equity communities, it takes me back to when this all started and the nonprofits

[40:23] it takes me back to when this all started and the nonprofits

[40:23] it takes me back to when this all started and the nonprofits in my district were being asked

[40:25] all started and the nonprofits in my district were being asked

[40:25] all started and the nonprofits in my district were being asked how we feel about the fact that

[40:27] in my district were being asked how we feel about the fact that

[40:27] in my district were being asked how we feel about the fact that we don't have them, why the

[40:30] how we feel about the fact that we don't have them, why the

[40:30] how we feel about the fact that we don't have them, why the company isn't investing in

[40:31] we don't have them, why the company isn't investing in

[40:31] we don't have them, why the company isn't investing in pickup zones in those regions.

[40:33] company isn't investing in pickup zones in those regions.

[40:33] company isn't investing in pickup zones in those regions. So it sounds to me like, hey, I

[40:36] pickup zones in those regions. So it sounds to me like, hey, I

[40:36] pickup zones in those regions. So it sounds to me like, hey, I mean, I've been seeing a lot of

[40:37] So it sounds to me like, hey, I mean, I've been seeing a lot of

[40:37] So it sounds to me like, hey, I mean, I've been seeing a lot of young people start to use these

[40:39] mean, I've been seeing a lot of young people start to use these

[40:39] mean, I've been seeing a lot of young people start to use these in my district, and I wonder,

[40:40] young people start to use these in my district, and I wonder,

[40:40] young people start to use these in my district, and I wonder, where did you get it? So

[40:42] in my district, and I wonder, where did you get it? So

[40:42] in my district, and I wonder, where did you get it? So they're probably taking public

[40:43] where did you get it? So they're probably taking public

[40:44] where did you get it? So they're probably taking public transportation, maybe to

[40:45] they're probably taking public transportation, maybe to

[40:45] they're probably taking public transportation, maybe to downtown, richer areas where

[40:46] transportation, maybe to downtown, richer areas where

[40:46] transportation, maybe to downtown, richer areas where there's work, more things to do,

[40:49] downtown, richer areas where there's work, more things to do,

[40:49] downtown, richer areas where there's work, more things to do, get the scooter ride back home.

[40:52] there's work, more things to do, get the scooter ride back home.

[40:52] there's work, more things to do, get the scooter ride back home. But you're telling me that

[40:53] get the scooter ride back home. But you're telling me that

[40:53] get the scooter ride back home. But you're telling me that they're paying more once they

[40:55] But you're telling me that they're paying more once they

[40:55] But you're telling me that they're paying more once they arrive home, so to speak, where?

[40:58] they're paying more once they arrive home, so to speak, where?

[40:58] they're paying more once they arrive home, so to speak, where? Where my district is. So it

[40:59] arrive home, so to speak, where? Where my district is. So it

[40:59] arrive home, so to speak, where? Where my district is. So it sounds like the only way we're

[41:01] Where my district is. So it sounds like the only way we're

[41:01] Where my district is. So it sounds like the only way we're going to potentially be able to

[41:02] sounds like the only way we're going to potentially be able to

[41:02] sounds like the only way we're going to potentially be able to lower it in the equity zones,

[41:04] going to potentially be able to lower it in the equity zones,

[41:04] going to potentially be able to lower it in the equity zones, if the company themselves

[41:05] lower it in the equity zones, if the company themselves

[41:05] lower it in the equity zones, if the company themselves starts to invest in zone in

[41:09] if the company themselves starts to invest in zone in

[41:09] if the company themselves starts to invest in zone in locations within these these

[41:11] starts to invest in zone in locations within these these

[41:11] starts to invest in zone in locations within these these locations, instead of only

[41:12] locations within these these locations, instead of only

[41:12] locations within these these locations, instead of only having them in the more

[41:14] locations, instead of only having them in the more

[41:14] locations, instead of only having them in the more affluent regions. Well, we are

[41:17] having them in the more affluent regions. Well, we are

[41:17] having them in the more affluent regions. Well, we are trying to incentivize the

[41:19] affluent regions. Well, we are trying to incentivize the

[41:19] affluent regions. Well, we are trying to incentivize the deployment and outside zones.

[41:21] trying to incentivize the deployment and outside zones.

[41:21] trying to incentivize the deployment and outside zones. So the reason that's actually

[41:22] deployment and outside zones. So the reason that's actually

[41:22] deployment and outside zones. So the reason that's actually one of the reasons the the

[41:24] So the reason that's actually one of the reasons the the

[41:24] So the reason that's actually one of the reasons the the graphs are done the way that

[41:25] one of the reasons the the graphs are done the way that

[41:25] one of the reasons the the graphs are done the way that they are, the, the the lower

[41:27] graphs are done the way that they are, the, the the lower

[41:27] graphs are done the way that they are, the, the the lower income zones, the efmd, the

[41:29] they are, the, the the lower income zones, the efmd, the

[41:29] they are, the, the the lower income zones, the efmd, the reason that we had it being

[41:31] income zones, the efmd, the reason that we had it being

[41:31] income zones, the efmd, the reason that we had it being three currently is because we

[41:33] reason that we had it being three currently is because we

[41:33] reason that we had it being three currently is because we wanted to incentivize

[41:34] three currently is because we wanted to incentivize

[41:34] three currently is because we wanted to incentivize deployment and trips in those

[41:35] wanted to incentivize deployment and trips in those

[41:35] wanted to incentivize deployment and trips in those zones. Right now, the way that

[41:37] deployment and trips in those zones. Right now, the way that

[41:38] deployment and trips in those zones. Right now, the way that it's structured is we would

[41:39] zones. Right now, the way that it's structured is we would

[41:39] zones. Right now, the way that it's structured is we would give you the benefit of the the

[41:41] it's structured is we would give you the benefit of the the

[41:41] it's structured is we would give you the benefit of the the least expensive zone. So if you

[41:43] give you the benefit of the the least expensive zone. So if you

[41:43] give you the benefit of the the least expensive zone. So if you came from a higher cost area to

[41:45] least expensive zone. So if you came from a higher cost area to

[41:45] least expensive zone. So if you came from a higher cost area to a lower cost area, we would

[41:47] came from a higher cost area to a lower cost area, we would

[41:47] came from a higher cost area to a lower cost area, we would give you the benefit of the

[41:48] a lower cost area, we would give you the benefit of the

[41:48] a lower cost area, we would give you the benefit of the lower cost area or vice versa.

[41:50] give you the benefit of the lower cost area or vice versa.

[41:51] give you the benefit of the lower cost area or vice versa. But what we determined was, you

[41:52] lower cost area or vice versa. But what we determined was, you

[41:52] lower cost area or vice versa. But what we determined was, you know, again, because we're not

[41:54] But what we determined was, you know, again, because we're not

[41:54] But what we determined was, you know, again, because we're not recovering our costs. And to be

[41:56] know, again, because we're not recovering our costs. And to be

[41:56] know, again, because we're not recovering our costs. And to be clear, these costs go directly

[41:57] recovering our costs. And to be clear, these costs go directly

[41:57] recovering our costs. And to be clear, these costs go directly to the companies. This isn't a

[41:59] clear, these costs go directly to the companies. This isn't a

[41:59] clear, these costs go directly to the companies. This isn't a cost that we put on the

[42:01] to the companies. This isn't a cost that we put on the

[42:01] to the companies. This isn't a cost that we put on the consumers to the company, but

[42:03] cost that we put on the consumers to the company, but

[42:03] cost that we put on the consumers to the company, but in order, you know, so what we

[42:05] consumers to the company, but in order, you know, so what we

[42:05] consumers to the company, but in order, you know, so what we did see is we do see a lot of

[42:07] in order, you know, so what we did see is we do see a lot of

[42:07] in order, you know, so what we did see is we do see a lot of trips in those zones, but those

[42:09] did see is we do see a lot of trips in those zones, but those

[42:09] did see is we do see a lot of trips in those zones, but those are actually our free zones,

[42:10] trips in those zones, but those are actually our free zones,

[42:10] trips in those zones, but those are actually our free zones, and we are not getting any

[42:11] are actually our free zones, and we are not getting any

[42:11] are actually our free zones, and we are not getting any revenue from those free zones.

[42:13] and we are not getting any revenue from those free zones.

[42:13] and we are not getting any revenue from those free zones. So part of what we're trying to

[42:15] revenue from those free zones. So part of what we're trying to

[42:15] revenue from those free zones. So part of what we're trying to do now is make a change so that

[42:16] So part of what we're trying to do now is make a change so that

[42:17] So part of what we're trying to do now is make a change so that when you if you're going to end

[42:18] do now is make a change so that when you if you're going to end

[42:18] do now is make a change so that when you if you're going to end a trip in those lower zones,

[42:20] when you if you're going to end a trip in those lower zones,

[42:20] when you if you're going to end a trip in those lower zones, it's still going to be cheaper

[42:21] a trip in those lower zones, it's still going to be cheaper

[42:21] a trip in those lower zones, it's still going to be cheaper for you. But if you're picking

[42:23] it's still going to be cheaper for you. But if you're picking

[42:23] it's still going to be cheaper for you. But if you're picking up those zones and ending at a

[42:24] for you. But if you're picking up those zones and ending at a

[42:24] for you. But if you're picking up those zones and ending at a higher zone, it's going to be

[42:26] up those zones and ending at a higher zone, it's going to be

[42:26] up those zones and ending at a higher zone, it's going to be more expensive now than what it

[42:27] higher zone, it's going to be more expensive now than what it

[42:27] higher zone, it's going to be more expensive now than what it used to be. So that's that's

[42:29] more expensive now than what it used to be. So that's that's

[42:29] more expensive now than what it used to be. So that's that's our goal. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I

[42:31] used to be. So that's that's our goal. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I

[42:31] used to be. So that's that's our goal. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I think we need to put this

[42:33] our goal. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I think we need to put this

[42:33] our goal. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I think we need to put this structure the fees in a way

[42:35] think we need to put this structure the fees in a way

[42:35] think we need to put this structure the fees in a way where they are also

[42:36] structure the fees in a way where they are also

[42:36] structure the fees in a way where they are also incentivized to to have more

[42:40] where they are also incentivized to to have more

[42:40] where they are also incentivized to to have more locations in the zones. So I

[42:43] incentivized to to have more locations in the zones. So I

[42:43] incentivized to to have more locations in the zones. So I have a question. Jarvis, are

[42:45] locations in the zones. So I have a question. Jarvis, are

[42:45] locations in the zones. So I have a question. Jarvis, are you saying that if I pick up a

[42:51] have a question. Jarvis, are you saying that if I pick up a

[42:51] have a question. Jarvis, are you saying that if I pick up a scooter in Westlake and take it

[42:55] you saying that if I pick up a scooter in Westlake and take it

[42:55] you saying that if I pick up a scooter in Westlake and take it to. It looks like Highland Park

[43:02] scooter in Westlake and take it to. It looks like Highland Park

[43:02] scooter in Westlake and take it to. It looks like Highland Park in my district, that at the end

[43:05] to. It looks like Highland Park in my district, that at the end

[43:05] to. It looks like Highland Park in my district, that at the end of that trip I'm going to pay

[43:07] in my district, that at the end of that trip I'm going to pay

[43:07] in my district, that at the end of that trip I'm going to pay the higher fee because I'm

[43:09] of that trip I'm going to pay the higher fee because I'm

[43:09] of that trip I'm going to pay the higher fee because I'm getting dropped off in mobility

[43:12] the higher fee because I'm getting dropped off in mobility

[43:12] the higher fee because I'm getting dropped off in mobility development district. So to be

[43:14] getting dropped off in mobility development district. So to be

[43:14] getting dropped off in mobility development district. So to be clear, we we do not manage the

[43:16] development district. So to be clear, we we do not manage the

[43:16] development district. So to be clear, we we do not manage the fees to the customer. No, no,

[43:18] clear, we we do not manage the fees to the customer. No, no,

[43:18] clear, we we do not manage the fees to the customer. No, no, no, I know I understand that

[43:19] fees to the customer. No, no, no, I know I understand that

[43:19] fees to the customer. No, no, no, I know I understand that part. I want to understand the

[43:21] no, I know I understand that part. I want to understand the

[43:21] no, I know I understand that part. I want to understand the application of the cost. Like

[43:22] part. I want to understand the application of the cost. Like

[43:22] part. I want to understand the application of the cost. Like is it like and how if I'm

[43:25] application of the cost. Like is it like and how if I'm

[43:25] application of the cost. Like is it like and how if I'm starting in a lower income

[43:26] is it like and how if I'm starting in a lower income

[43:26] is it like and how if I'm starting in a lower income neighborhood and ending up in a

[43:27] starting in a lower income neighborhood and ending up in a

[43:27] starting in a lower income neighborhood and ending up in a higher income neighborhood,

[43:28] neighborhood and ending up in a higher income neighborhood,

[43:28] neighborhood and ending up in a higher income neighborhood, where the where the the the

[43:29] higher income neighborhood, where the where the the the

[43:30] higher income neighborhood, where the where the the the cost is higher, does that mean

[43:31] where the where the the the cost is higher, does that mean

[43:31] where the where the the the cost is higher, does that mean that I'm going to end up paying

[43:33] cost is higher, does that mean that I'm going to end up paying

[43:33] cost is higher, does that mean that I'm going to end up paying the higher cost? Is that what

[43:34] that I'm going to end up paying the higher cost? Is that what

[43:34] that I'm going to end up paying the higher cost? Is that what you said the company would pay

[43:36] the higher cost? Is that what you said the company would pay

[43:36] the higher cost? Is that what you said the company would pay a higher trip fee? Yes. So

[43:37] you said the company would pay a higher trip fee? Yes. So

[43:37] you said the company would pay a higher trip fee? Yes. So wouldn't that mean that could

[43:39] a higher trip fee? Yes. So wouldn't that mean that could

[43:39] a higher trip fee? Yes. So wouldn't that mean that could prevent lower income people

[43:40] wouldn't that mean that could prevent lower income people

[43:40] wouldn't that mean that could prevent lower income people from traveling to these places?

[43:42] prevent lower income people from traveling to these places?

[43:42] prevent lower income people from traveling to these places? If they don't have the money to

[43:44] from traveling to these places? If they don't have the money to

[43:44] from traveling to these places? If they don't have the money to pay the higher fee? Not

[43:46] If they don't have the money to pay the higher fee? Not

[43:46] If they don't have the money to pay the higher fee? Not necessarily. And that's really

[43:46] pay the higher fee? Not necessarily. And that's really

[43:46] pay the higher fee? Not necessarily. And that's really a question for the companies,

[43:48] necessarily. And that's really a question for the companies,

[43:48] necessarily. And that's really a question for the companies, because we do we do not control

[43:50] a question for the companies, because we do we do not control

[43:50] a question for the companies, because we do we do not control how they distribute their own

[43:51] because we do we do not control how they distribute their own

[43:51] because we do we do not control how they distribute their own costs. They are a business and

[43:54] how they distribute their own costs. They are a business and

[43:54] how they distribute their own costs. They are a business and they can make that

[43:55] costs. They are a business and they can make that

[43:55] costs. They are a business and they can make that determination. I'm certain they

[43:56] they can make that determination. I'm certain they

[43:56] they can make that determination. I'm certain they have algorithms for figuring

[43:58] determination. I'm certain they have algorithms for figuring

[43:58] determination. I'm certain they have algorithms for figuring out how and where they can

[43:59] have algorithms for figuring out how and where they can

[43:59] have algorithms for figuring out how and where they can charge and what, but because

[44:01] out how and where they can charge and what, but because

[44:01] out how and where they can charge and what, but because they're a private business, we

[44:02] charge and what, but because they're a private business, we

[44:02] charge and what, but because they're a private business, we do stay out of that, out of

[44:04] they're a private business, we do stay out of that, out of

[44:04] they're a private business, we do stay out of that, out of that mechanism. So that last

[44:06] do stay out of that, out of that mechanism. So that last

[44:06] do stay out of that, out of that mechanism. So that last sentence means that we had

[44:07] that mechanism. So that last sentence means that we had

[44:07] that mechanism. So that last sentence means that we had nothing to do with these

[44:08] sentence means that we had nothing to do with these

[44:08] sentence means that we had nothing to do with these numbers in these bars around

[44:10] nothing to do with these numbers in these bars around

[44:10] nothing to do with these numbers in these bars around the 42 to 58, the 38, the 186.

[44:14] numbers in these bars around the 42 to 58, the 38, the 186.

[44:14] numbers in these bars around the 42 to 58, the 38, the 186. No, those fees do come directly

[44:17] the 42 to 58, the 38, the 186. No, those fees do come directly

[44:17] the 42 to 58, the 38, the 186. No, those fees do come directly to us. That's that's a charge

[44:18] No, those fees do come directly to us. That's that's a charge

[44:18] No, those fees do come directly to us. That's that's a charge to the company. And so that's

[44:20] to us. That's that's a charge to the company. And so that's

[44:20] to us. That's that's a charge to the company. And so that's what I'm asking about. Like, is

[44:23] to the company. And so that's what I'm asking about. Like, is

[44:23] to the company. And so that's what I'm asking about. Like, is this a cost like these fees are

[44:25] what I'm asking about. Like, is this a cost like these fees are

[44:25] what I'm asking about. Like, is this a cost like these fees are what we apply to the company,

[44:27] this a cost like these fees are what we apply to the company,

[44:27] this a cost like these fees are what we apply to the company, correct? Correct. Yes. And

[44:29] what we apply to the company, correct? Correct. Yes. And

[44:29] what we apply to the company, correct? Correct. Yes. And these is any of this cost

[44:31] correct? Correct. Yes. And these is any of this cost

[44:31] correct? Correct. Yes. And these is any of this cost translate to the rider? Yes.

[44:34] these is any of this cost translate to the rider? Yes.

[44:34] these is any of this cost translate to the rider? Yes. That's right. I'd have to

[44:36] translate to the rider? Yes. That's right. I'd have to

[44:36] translate to the rider? Yes. That's right. I'd have to speculate about it. That's

[44:37] That's right. I'd have to speculate about it. That's

[44:37] That's right. I'd have to speculate about it. That's directly a company question. It

[44:40] speculate about it. That's directly a company question. It

[44:40] speculate about it. That's directly a company question. It could. Okay. Well one of my one

[44:42] directly a company question. It could. Okay. Well one of my one

[44:42] directly a company question. It could. Okay. Well one of my one of my questions is what is our

[44:44] could. Okay. Well one of my one of my questions is what is our

[44:44] could. Okay. Well one of my one of my questions is what is our relationship with the company

[44:45] of my questions is what is our relationship with the company

[44:45] of my questions is what is our relationship with the company if we're not if we don't have

[44:47] relationship with the company if we're not if we don't have

[44:47] relationship with the company if we're not if we don't have access to this information, can

[44:48] if we're not if we don't have access to this information, can

[44:48] if we're not if we don't have access to this information, can we go and ask them these

[44:49] access to this information, can we go and ask them these

[44:49] access to this information, can we go and ask them these questions? Do you all go and

[44:51] we go and ask them these questions? Do you all go and

[44:51] we go and ask them these questions? Do you all go and ask them these questions? We we

[44:52] questions? Do you all go and ask them these questions? We we

[44:52] questions? Do you all go and ask them these questions? We we could ask them these questions.

[44:54] ask them these questions? We we could ask them these questions.

[44:54] ask them these questions? We we could ask them these questions. Yes. Well, I hope that they're

[44:55] could ask them these questions. Yes. Well, I hope that they're

[44:55] could ask them these questions. Yes. Well, I hope that they're here and would love to have

[44:57] Yes. Well, I hope that they're here and would love to have

[44:57] Yes. Well, I hope that they're here and would love to have that conversation because I

[44:58] here and would love to have that conversation because I

[44:58] here and would love to have that conversation because I would like to understand more

[44:59] that conversation because I would like to understand more

[44:59] that conversation because I would like to understand more of that part. And I know we're

[45:01] would like to understand more of that part. And I know we're

[45:01] would like to understand more of that part. And I know we're running out of time, and I know

[45:02] of that part. And I know we're running out of time, and I know

[45:02] of that part. And I know we're running out of time, and I know that we're asking a lot of

[45:04] running out of time, and I know that we're asking a lot of

[45:04] running out of time, and I know that we're asking a lot of questions, but this really is

[45:05] that we're asking a lot of questions, but this really is

[45:05] that we're asking a lot of questions, but this really is really important to a lot of

[45:07] questions, but this really is really important to a lot of

[45:07] questions, but this really is really important to a lot of our communities because it is

[45:08] really important to a lot of our communities because it is

[45:08] really important to a lot of our communities because it is first and last mile. I'll pass

[45:09] our communities because it is first and last mile. I'll pass

[45:09] our communities because it is first and last mile. I'll pass it to my council colleague

[45:12] first and last mile. I'll pass it to my council colleague

[45:12] first and last mile. I'll pass it to my council colleague Nazarian to ask questions, and

[45:13] it to my council colleague Nazarian to ask questions, and

[45:13] it to my council colleague Nazarian to ask questions, and then I might have some more to

[45:15] Nazarian to ask questions, and then I might have some more to

[45:15] Nazarian to ask questions, and then I might have some more to finish up. But thank you and I

[45:18] then I might have some more to finish up. But thank you and I

[45:18] then I might have some more to finish up. But thank you and I appreciate all the questions

[45:19] finish up. But thank you and I appreciate all the questions

[45:19] finish up. But thank you and I appreciate all the questions that are being asked on this,

[45:21] appreciate all the questions that are being asked on this,

[45:21] appreciate all the questions that are being asked on this, and somewhat relevant, but

[45:23] that are being asked on this, and somewhat relevant, but

[45:23] that are being asked on this, and somewhat relevant, but tangential to what we're

[45:25] and somewhat relevant, but tangential to what we're

[45:25] and somewhat relevant, but tangential to what we're talking about. Something that

[45:27] tangential to what we're talking about. Something that

[45:27] tangential to what we're talking about. Something that concerns me a great deal is

[45:29] talking about. Something that concerns me a great deal is

[45:29] talking about. Something that concerns me a great deal is liability. And as we see what

[45:31] concerns me a great deal is liability. And as we see what

[45:31] concerns me a great deal is liability. And as we see what the costs to the city are. So

[45:35] liability. And as we see what the costs to the city are. So

[45:35] liability. And as we see what the costs to the city are. So by making changes here, nothing

[45:38] the costs to the city are. So by making changes here, nothing

[45:38] the costs to the city are. So by making changes here, nothing on the liability part changes.

[45:42] by making changes here, nothing on the liability part changes.

[45:42] by making changes here, nothing on the liability part changes. Correct. That's wanted for the

[45:44] on the liability part changes. Correct. That's wanted for the

[45:44] on the liability part changes. Correct. That's wanted for the record. Yes. That's correct.

[45:45] Correct. That's wanted for the record. Yes. That's correct.

[45:45] Correct. That's wanted for the record. Yes. That's correct. Okay. Because whatever

[45:47] record. Yes. That's correct. Okay. Because whatever

[45:47] record. Yes. That's correct. Okay. Because whatever agreements that were in place

[45:48] Okay. Because whatever agreements that were in place

[45:48] Okay. Because whatever agreements that were in place have protected the city very

[45:49] agreements that were in place have protected the city very

[45:49] agreements that were in place have protected the city very well. And I want to make sure

[45:51] have protected the city very well. And I want to make sure

[45:51] have protected the city very well. And I want to make sure that that is not in any way

[45:53] well. And I want to make sure that that is not in any way

[45:53] well. And I want to make sure that that is not in any way infringed upon or changed or

[45:56] that that is not in any way infringed upon or changed or

[45:56] that that is not in any way infringed upon or changed or potentially even watered down.

[45:59] infringed upon or changed or potentially even watered down.

[45:59] infringed upon or changed or potentially even watered down. So that's one. Two. And again,

[46:04] potentially even watered down. So that's one. Two. And again,

[46:04] potentially even watered down. So that's one. Two. And again, this is tangential, and I

[46:06] So that's one. Two. And again, this is tangential, and I

[46:06] So that's one. Two. And again, this is tangential, and I apologize that I didn't get a

[46:07] this is tangential, and I apologize that I didn't get a

[46:07] this is tangential, and I apologize that I didn't get a chance to talk to you before

[46:08] apologize that I didn't get a chance to talk to you before

[46:08] apologize that I didn't get a chance to talk to you before this committee hearing. But

[46:11] chance to talk to you before this committee hearing. But

[46:11] chance to talk to you before this committee hearing. But when we are looking at

[46:13] this committee hearing. But when we are looking at

[46:13] this committee hearing. But when we are looking at expanding, we are looking at

[46:15] when we are looking at expanding, we are looking at

[46:15] when we are looking at expanding, we are looking at potentially having a larger

[46:18] expanding, we are looking at potentially having a larger

[46:18] expanding, we are looking at potentially having a larger presence and footprint. We're

[46:23] potentially having a larger presence and footprint. We're

[46:23] potentially having a larger presence and footprint. We're going to expect more injuries.

[46:26] presence and footprint. We're going to expect more injuries.

[46:26] presence and footprint. We're going to expect more injuries. We're going to expect more

[46:30] going to expect more injuries. We're going to expect more

[46:30] going to expect more injuries. We're going to expect more events of people because of

[46:34] We're going to expect more events of people because of

[46:34] We're going to expect more events of people because of sidewalk use or ill repaired

[46:38] events of people because of sidewalk use or ill repaired

[46:38] events of people because of sidewalk use or ill repaired disrepair, street circumstances

[46:41] sidewalk use or ill repaired disrepair, street circumstances

[46:41] sidewalk use or ill repaired disrepair, street circumstances to whatever the other issues

[46:43] disrepair, street circumstances to whatever the other issues

[46:43] disrepair, street circumstances to whatever the other issues are. One of them also being a

[46:45] to whatever the other issues are. One of them also being a

[46:45] to whatever the other issues are. One of them also being a big contributor. People riding

[46:47] are. One of them also being a big contributor. People riding

[46:47] are. One of them also being a big contributor. People riding these scooters while inebriated.

[46:50] big contributor. People riding these scooters while inebriated.

[46:50] big contributor. People riding these scooters while inebriated. So are we as a city and as a

[46:54] these scooters while inebriated. So are we as a city and as a

[46:54] these scooters while inebriated. So are we as a city and as a department, looking at

[46:57] So are we as a city and as a department, looking at

[46:57] So are we as a city and as a department, looking at opportunities, especially when

[46:58] department, looking at opportunities, especially when

[46:58] department, looking at opportunities, especially when some of these trip and some of

[47:01] opportunities, especially when some of these trip and some of

[47:01] opportunities, especially when some of these trip and some of these accidents occur later at

[47:05] some of these trip and some of these accidents occur later at

[47:05] some of these trip and some of these accidents occur later at night when people are

[47:07] these accidents occur later at night when people are

[47:07] these accidents occur later at night when people are inebriated. I mean, studies

[47:08] night when people are inebriated. I mean, studies

[47:08] night when people are inebriated. I mean, studies have shown 25% of the injuries

[47:11] inebriated. I mean, studies have shown 25% of the injuries

[47:11] inebriated. I mean, studies have shown 25% of the injuries come from inebriated

[47:13] have shown 25% of the injuries come from inebriated

[47:14] have shown 25% of the injuries come from inebriated circumstances. Are we looking

[47:15] come from inebriated circumstances. Are we looking

[47:15] come from inebriated circumstances. Are we looking at ways that we can reduce some

[47:19] circumstances. Are we looking at ways that we can reduce some

[47:19] circumstances. Are we looking at ways that we can reduce some of these accidents and impacts

[47:22] at ways that we can reduce some of these accidents and impacts

[47:22] at ways that we can reduce some of these accidents and impacts by having these scooters have

[47:25] of these accidents and impacts by having these scooters have

[47:25] of these accidents and impacts by having these scooters have some kind of a test mechanism,

[47:27] by having these scooters have some kind of a test mechanism,

[47:27] by having these scooters have some kind of a test mechanism, or has the company, the various

[47:31] some kind of a test mechanism, or has the company, the various

[47:31] some kind of a test mechanism, or has the company, the various companies been talking about

[47:32] or has the company, the various companies been talking about

[47:33] or has the company, the various companies been talking about this? What steps have we taken

[47:34] companies been talking about this? What steps have we taken

[47:34] companies been talking about this? What steps have we taken to try to address this issue as

[47:37] this? What steps have we taken to try to address this issue as

[47:37] this? What steps have we taken to try to address this issue as well, so that as the numbers of

[47:39] to try to address this issue as well, so that as the numbers of

[47:39] to try to address this issue as well, so that as the numbers of usage grows, we don't expand

[47:43] well, so that as the numbers of usage grows, we don't expand

[47:43] well, so that as the numbers of usage grows, we don't expand the number of traumatic

[47:45] usage grows, we don't expand the number of traumatic

[47:45] usage grows, we don't expand the number of traumatic injuries as well. So we have

[47:49] the number of traumatic injuries as well. So we have

[47:49] the number of traumatic injuries as well. So we have looked at some things related

[47:51] injuries as well. So we have looked at some things related

[47:51] injuries as well. So we have looked at some things related to sidewalk writing and

[47:53] looked at some things related to sidewalk writing and

[47:53] looked at some things related to sidewalk writing and technology related to that. We

[47:55] to sidewalk writing and technology related to that. We

[47:55] to sidewalk writing and technology related to that. We haven't gotten to a place where

[47:57] technology related to that. We haven't gotten to a place where

[47:57] technology related to that. We haven't gotten to a place where we found a scalable solution as

[48:00] haven't gotten to a place where we found a scalable solution as

[48:00] haven't gotten to a place where we found a scalable solution as of yet for that type of thing.

[48:01] we found a scalable solution as of yet for that type of thing.

[48:01] we found a scalable solution as of yet for that type of thing. And as it relates to inebriated

[48:03] of yet for that type of thing. And as it relates to inebriated

[48:04] of yet for that type of thing. And as it relates to inebriated riders, that's something we can

[48:05] And as it relates to inebriated riders, that's something we can

[48:05] And as it relates to inebriated riders, that's something we can work with the LAPD on, because

[48:07] riders, that's something we can work with the LAPD on, because

[48:08] riders, that's something we can work with the LAPD on, because obviously we don't have the

[48:09] work with the LAPD on, because obviously we don't have the

[48:09] work with the LAPD on, because obviously we don't have the authority to to stop a person

[48:10] obviously we don't have the authority to to stop a person

[48:10] obviously we don't have the authority to to stop a person on a scooter while riding. But

[48:12] authority to to stop a person on a scooter while riding. But

[48:12] authority to to stop a person on a scooter while riding. But but they would. And so I think

[48:14] on a scooter while riding. But but they would. And so I think

[48:14] on a scooter while riding. But but they would. And so I think we could work with them to

[48:15] but they would. And so I think we could work with them to

[48:16] but they would. And so I think we could work with them to develop what kind of policies

[48:17] we could work with them to develop what kind of policies

[48:18] we could work with them to develop what kind of policies they think would be helpful in

[48:20] develop what kind of policies they think would be helpful in

[48:20] develop what kind of policies they think would be helpful in that. But that's hit and miss.

[48:21] they think would be helpful in that. But that's hit and miss.

[48:22] they think would be helpful in that. But that's hit and miss. So what I'm saying is, can

[48:23] that. But that's hit and miss. So what I'm saying is, can

[48:23] that. But that's hit and miss. So what I'm saying is, can there be some kind of a lock

[48:25] So what I'm saying is, can there be some kind of a lock

[48:25] So what I'm saying is, can there be some kind of a lock system? Exactly on the unit

[48:31] there be some kind of a lock system? Exactly on the unit

[48:31] there be some kind of a lock system? Exactly on the unit itself, the scooter itself, so

[48:32] system? Exactly on the unit itself, the scooter itself, so

[48:32] system? Exactly on the unit itself, the scooter itself, so that, you know, before being

[48:35] itself, the scooter itself, so that, you know, before being

[48:36] itself, the scooter itself, so that, you know, before being able to utilize it, you need to

[48:38] that, you know, before being able to utilize it, you need to

[48:38] that, you know, before being able to utilize it, you need to take that test, whether

[48:40] able to utilize it, you need to take that test, whether

[48:40] able to utilize it, you need to take that test, whether breathalyzer or whatever it

[48:41] take that test, whether breathalyzer or whatever it

[48:41] take that test, whether breathalyzer or whatever it whatever the circumstances, but

[48:43] breathalyzer or whatever it whatever the circumstances, but

[48:43] breathalyzer or whatever it whatever the circumstances, but something that allows or

[48:45] whatever the circumstances, but something that allows or

[48:45] whatever the circumstances, but something that allows or geofencing so that there are

[48:48] something that allows or geofencing so that there are

[48:48] something that allows or geofencing so that there are protections built in to the

[48:50] geofencing so that there are protections built in to the

[48:50] geofencing so that there are protections built in to the system. Have there been

[48:51] protections built in to the system. Have there been

[48:51] protections built in to the system. Have there been discussions about this, to be

[48:54] system. Have there been discussions about this, to be

[48:54] system. Have there been discussions about this, to be frank? No. So I do think we can

[48:56] discussions about this, to be frank? No. So I do think we can

[48:56] discussions about this, to be frank? No. So I do think we can begin those discussions.

[48:57] frank? No. So I do think we can begin those discussions.

[48:57] frank? No. So I do think we can begin those discussions. Obviously, the companies are

[48:58] begin those discussions. Obviously, the companies are

[48:58] begin those discussions. Obviously, the companies are here. This will be equipment

[49:00] Obviously, the companies are here. This will be equipment

[49:00] Obviously, the companies are here. This will be equipment that they would have to employ

[49:02] here. This will be equipment that they would have to employ

[49:02] here. This will be equipment that they would have to employ on their devices, but we can

[49:03] that they would have to employ on their devices, but we can

[49:03] that they would have to employ on their devices, but we can have the discussions with them

[49:05] on their devices, but we can have the discussions with them

[49:05] on their devices, but we can have the discussions with them and to even see how that works

[49:06] have the discussions with them and to even see how that works

[49:06] have the discussions with them and to even see how that works and find out if other cities

[49:08] and to even see how that works and find out if other cities

[49:08] and to even see how that works and find out if other cities have something similar like

[49:10] and find out if other cities have something similar like

[49:10] and find out if other cities have something similar like that. Again, I my intention

[49:12] have something similar like that. Again, I my intention

[49:12] have something similar like that. Again, I my intention wasn't to blindside anyone, but

[49:13] that. Again, I my intention wasn't to blindside anyone, but

[49:13] that. Again, I my intention wasn't to blindside anyone, but I wanted to discuss this, so I.

[49:17] wasn't to blindside anyone, but I wanted to discuss this, so I.

[49:17] wasn't to blindside anyone, but I wanted to discuss this, so I. I'm very curious and interested

[49:18] I wanted to discuss this, so I. I'm very curious and interested

[49:18] I wanted to discuss this, so I. I'm very curious and interested to know if they've been taking

[49:21] I'm very curious and interested to know if they've been taking

[49:21] I'm very curious and interested to know if they've been taking steps, if they've done

[49:21] to know if they've been taking steps, if they've done

[49:21] to know if they've been taking steps, if they've done something similar to that in

[49:23] steps, if they've done something similar to that in

[49:23] steps, if they've done something similar to that in other cities. Because again, as

[49:25] something similar to that in other cities. Because again, as

[49:25] something similar to that in other cities. Because again, as we increase usage, I don't want

[49:26] other cities. Because again, as we increase usage, I don't want

[49:26] other cities. Because again, as we increase usage, I don't want to see a increase in our

[49:28] we increase usage, I don't want to see a increase in our

[49:29] we increase usage, I don't want to see a increase in our emergency rooms either. Thank

[49:30] to see a increase in our emergency rooms either. Thank

[49:30] to see a increase in our emergency rooms either. Thank you. Thank you so much. I have

[49:34] emergency rooms either. Thank you. Thank you so much. I have

[49:34] emergency rooms either. Thank you. Thank you so much. I have a couple questions. Marzett I

[49:35] you. Thank you so much. I have a couple questions. Marzett I

[49:35] you. Thank you so much. I have a couple questions. Marzett I yield, how did you did? And

[49:39] a couple questions. Marzett I yield, how did you did? And

[49:39] a couple questions. Marzett I yield, how did you did? And then the last one will be an

[49:41] yield, how did you did? And then the last one will be an

[49:41] yield, how did you did? And then the last one will be an easier one. But how did you

[49:42] then the last one will be an easier one. But how did you

[49:42] then the last one will be an easier one. But how did you determine your initial proposed

[49:44] easier one. But how did you determine your initial proposed

[49:44] easier one. But how did you determine your initial proposed per tree per trip fee? What

[49:47] determine your initial proposed per tree per trip fee? What

[49:47] determine your initial proposed per tree per trip fee? What type of formula did you use? So

[49:50] per tree per trip fee? What type of formula did you use? So

[49:51] per tree per trip fee? What type of formula did you use? So at the time and and it's been

[49:53] type of formula did you use? So at the time and and it's been

[49:53] type of formula did you use? So at the time and and it's been quite some time. But we that

[49:54] at the time and and it's been quite some time. But we that

[49:54] at the time and and it's been quite some time. But we that fee was developed through a

[49:56] quite some time. But we that fee was developed through a

[49:56] quite some time. But we that fee was developed through a consultant process. I believe

[49:58] fee was developed through a consultant process. I believe

[49:58] fee was developed through a consultant process. I believe Nelson Nygaard helped us

[49:59] consultant process. I believe Nelson Nygaard helped us

[49:59] consultant process. I believe Nelson Nygaard helped us develop that fee at that time.

[50:01] Nelson Nygaard helped us develop that fee at that time.

[50:01] Nelson Nygaard helped us develop that fee at that time. So it was a lot of work. It

[50:03] develop that fee at that time. So it was a lot of work. It

[50:03] develop that fee at that time. So it was a lot of work. It actually several iterations

[50:04] So it was a lot of work. It actually several iterations

[50:05] So it was a lot of work. It actually several iterations through the council offices, if

[50:06] actually several iterations through the council offices, if

[50:06] actually several iterations through the council offices, if I recall, of those fees and

[50:08] through the council offices, if I recall, of those fees and

[50:08] through the council offices, if I recall, of those fees and including the maps. So the maps

[50:10] I recall, of those fees and including the maps. So the maps

[50:10] I recall, of those fees and including the maps. So the maps were also drawn by consultant.

[50:12] including the maps. So the maps were also drawn by consultant.

[50:12] including the maps. So the maps were also drawn by consultant. So, you know, as we work

[50:15] were also drawn by consultant. So, you know, as we work

[50:15] were also drawn by consultant. So, you know, as we work through and as the program

[50:17] So, you know, as we work through and as the program

[50:17] So, you know, as we work through and as the program matures, it is something that,

[50:19] through and as the program matures, it is something that,

[50:19] through and as the program matures, it is something that, you know, eventually,

[50:21] matures, it is something that, you know, eventually,

[50:21] matures, it is something that, you know, eventually, especially as we can begin cost

[50:22] you know, eventually, especially as we can begin cost

[50:22] you know, eventually, especially as we can begin cost recovery, that we can begin

[50:24] especially as we can begin cost recovery, that we can begin

[50:24] especially as we can begin cost recovery, that we can begin looking again, perhaps through

[50:26] recovery, that we can begin looking again, perhaps through

[50:26] recovery, that we can begin looking again, perhaps through a consultant in terms of

[50:27] looking again, perhaps through a consultant in terms of

[50:28] looking again, perhaps through a consultant in terms of developing, do the geographies

[50:29] a consultant in terms of developing, do the geographies

[50:29] a consultant in terms of developing, do the geographies continue to make sense as well

[50:31] developing, do the geographies continue to make sense as well

[50:32] developing, do the geographies continue to make sense as well as do the fee structure

[50:34] continue to make sense as well as do the fee structure

[50:34] continue to make sense as well as do the fee structure continue to make sense? We can

[50:35] as do the fee structure continue to make sense? We can

[50:35] as do the fee structure continue to make sense? We can do the fee structure in-house,

[50:37] continue to make sense? We can do the fee structure in-house,

[50:37] continue to make sense? We can do the fee structure in-house, but we work with a consultant

[50:38] do the fee structure in-house, but we work with a consultant

[50:38] do the fee structure in-house, but we work with a consultant at the time to develop it.

[50:41] but we work with a consultant at the time to develop it.

[50:41] but we work with a consultant at the time to develop it. Great. And so through that

[50:42] at the time to develop it. Great. And so through that

[50:42] at the time to develop it. Great. And so through that consultant work is how you got

[50:44] Great. And so through that consultant work is how you got

[50:44] Great. And so through that consultant work is how you got option A, option B and option C

[50:47] consultant work is how you got option A, option B and option C

[50:47] consultant work is how you got option A, option B and option C for the original trip fees for

[50:49] option A, option B and option C for the original trip fees for

[50:49] option A, option B and option C for the original trip fees for what's presented in front of us

[50:51] for the original trip fees for what's presented in front of us

[50:51] for the original trip fees for what's presented in front of us today of like $0.24 for the

[50:53] what's presented in front of us today of like $0.24 for the

[50:53] what's presented in front of us today of like $0.24 for the equity focused. No, no, that

[50:56] today of like $0.24 for the equity focused. No, no, that

[50:56] today of like $0.24 for the equity focused. No, no, that was the work we did at the cows.

[50:59] equity focused. No, no, that was the work we did at the cows.

[50:59] equity focused. No, no, that was the work we did at the cows. Okay. And so that that's not

[51:01] was the work we did at the cows. Okay. And so that that's not

[51:01] was the work we did at the cows. Okay. And so that that's not part of the consultant work

[51:02] Okay. And so that that's not part of the consultant work

[51:03] Okay. And so that that's not part of the consultant work then it doesn't build off of

[51:04] part of the consultant work then it doesn't build off of

[51:04] part of the consultant work then it doesn't build off of that. No. We did our analysis

[51:06] then it doesn't build off of that. No. We did our analysis

[51:06] then it doesn't build off of that. No. We did our analysis based on the data available to

[51:07] that. No. We did our analysis based on the data available to

[51:07] that. No. We did our analysis based on the data available to us from Ladot. Okay. Can you

[51:10] based on the data available to us from Ladot. Okay. Can you

[51:10] based on the data available to us from Ladot. Okay. Can you talk to me about what that data,

[51:11] us from Ladot. Okay. Can you talk to me about what that data,

[51:11] us from Ladot. Okay. Can you talk to me about what that data, what that analysis looked like?

[51:12] talk to me about what that data, what that analysis looked like?

[51:13] talk to me about what that data, what that analysis looked like? I know we talked about admin

[51:14] what that analysis looked like? I know we talked about admin

[51:14] what that analysis looked like? I know we talked about admin and going out to do the, the,

[51:17] I know we talked about admin and going out to do the, the,

[51:17] I know we talked about admin and going out to do the, the, the audit, but I wanted like I

[51:20] and going out to do the, the, the audit, but I wanted like I

[51:20] and going out to do the, the, the audit, but I wanted like I want to know why equity and we

[51:22] the audit, but I wanted like I want to know why equity and we

[51:22] the audit, but I wanted like I want to know why equity and we talked about but like how do we

[51:24] want to know why equity and we talked about but like how do we

[51:24] want to know why equity and we talked about but like how do we get equity to be in the

[51:25] talked about but like how do we get equity to be in the

[51:25] talked about but like how do we get equity to be in the standard permitted. Right. If

[51:26] get equity to be in the standard permitted. Right. If

[51:26] get equity to be in the standard permitted. Right. If we're really talking about

[51:27] standard permitted. Right. If we're really talking about

[51:27] standard permitted. Right. If we're really talking about equity is what I'm trying to

[51:29] we're really talking about equity is what I'm trying to

[51:29] we're really talking about equity is what I'm trying to get to. Right. And so straight

[51:30] equity is what I'm trying to get to. Right. And so straight

[51:30] equity is what I'm trying to get to. Right. And so straight to the point on that, that's

[51:32] get to. Right. And so straight to the point on that, that's

[51:32] get to. Right. And so straight to the point on that, that's why a subsidy would be needed.

[51:33] to the point on that, that's why a subsidy would be needed.

[51:33] to the point on that, that's why a subsidy would be needed. Yes. If you want to bring down

[51:35] why a subsidy would be needed. Yes. If you want to bring down

[51:35] why a subsidy would be needed. Yes. If you want to bring down the equity fee. But what if you

[51:37] Yes. If you want to bring down the equity fee. But what if you

[51:37] Yes. If you want to bring down the equity fee. But what if you just flip it. Well that the

[51:38] the equity fee. But what if you just flip it. Well that the

[51:38] the equity fee. But what if you just flip it. Well that the unfortunately, because of the

[51:39] just flip it. Well that the unfortunately, because of the

[51:39] just flip it. Well that the unfortunately, because of the way the data is, the truth of

[51:42] unfortunately, because of the way the data is, the truth of

[51:42] unfortunately, because of the way the data is, the truth of how many trips are happening,

[51:43] way the data is, the truth of how many trips are happening,

[51:43] way the data is, the truth of how many trips are happening, the number of three, one one

[51:44] how many trips are happening, the number of three, one one

[51:44] how many trips are happening, the number of three, one one requests that we're receiving,

[51:45] the number of three, one one requests that we're receiving,

[51:46] the number of three, one one requests that we're receiving, the number of requests that are

[51:47] requests that we're receiving, the number of requests that are

[51:47] requests that we're receiving, the number of requests that are coming in around geofencing,

[51:49] the number of requests that are coming in around geofencing,

[51:49] the number of requests that are coming in around geofencing, etc. it's just not the reality

[51:51] coming in around geofencing, etc. it's just not the reality

[51:51] coming in around geofencing, etc. it's just not the reality of the work that's happening

[51:53] etc. it's just not the reality of the work that's happening

[51:53] etc. it's just not the reality of the work that's happening through this program. And

[51:54] of the work that's happening through this program. And

[51:55] of the work that's happening through this program. And that's because of prop 26. Or

[51:56] through this program. And that's because of prop 26. Or

[51:56] through this program. And that's because of prop 26. Or is that just us saying that and

[51:59] that's because of prop 26. Or is that just us saying that and

[51:59] that's because of prop 26. Or is that just us saying that and us that being our policy and

[52:00] is that just us saying that and us that being our policy and

[52:00] is that just us saying that and us that being our policy and standard? No, no, no, no, what

[52:02] us that being our policy and standard? No, no, no, no, what

[52:02] us that being our policy and standard? No, no, no, no, what this is speaking to is, you

[52:04] standard? No, no, no, no, what this is speaking to is, you

[52:04] standard? No, no, no, no, what this is speaking to is, you know, based on the data we have

[52:06] this is speaking to is, you know, based on the data we have

[52:06] this is speaking to is, you know, based on the data we have around trips and then also the

[52:08] know, based on the data we have around trips and then also the

[52:08] know, based on the data we have around trips and then also the data we have from Dot, what it

[52:10] around trips and then also the data we have from Dot, what it

[52:10] around trips and then also the data we have from Dot, what it costs for them to to do this

[52:12] data we have from Dot, what it costs for them to to do this

[52:12] data we have from Dot, what it costs for them to to do this program, their operations and

[52:13] costs for them to to do this program, their operations and

[52:14] costs for them to to do this program, their operations and enforcement work here. We need

[52:15] program, their operations and enforcement work here. We need

[52:15] program, their operations and enforcement work here. We need it to be able to understand how

[52:17] enforcement work here. We need it to be able to understand how

[52:17] enforcement work here. We need it to be able to understand how is that broken out?

[52:19] it to be able to understand how is that broken out?

[52:19] it to be able to understand how is that broken out? Administrative leave how much

[52:19] is that broken out? Administrative leave how much

[52:19] is that broken out? Administrative leave how much do they spend doing this work?

[52:21] Administrative leave how much do they spend doing this work?

[52:22] Administrative leave how much do they spend doing this work? And then for the different

[52:23] do they spend doing this work? And then for the different

[52:23] do they spend doing this work? And then for the different geographic regions, how did

[52:24] And then for the different geographic regions, how did

[52:24] And then for the different geographic regions, how did they how much time and energy

[52:26] geographic regions, how did they how much time and energy

[52:26] geographic regions, how did they how much time and energy and effort do they spend doing

[52:27] they how much time and energy and effort do they spend doing

[52:27] they how much time and energy and effort do they spend doing this work? And so that's where

[52:29] and effort do they spend doing this work? And so that's where

[52:29] and effort do they spend doing this work? And so that's where we use the data to break it out

[52:31] this work? And so that's where we use the data to break it out

[52:31] this work? And so that's where we use the data to break it out in those different ways and

[52:32] we use the data to break it out in those different ways and

[52:32] we use the data to break it out in those different ways and show that based on the trip

[52:34] in those different ways and show that based on the trip

[52:34] in those different ways and show that based on the trip fees or excuse me, based on the

[52:35] show that based on the trip fees or excuse me, based on the

[52:35] show that based on the trip fees or excuse me, based on the average number of trips, what

[52:37] fees or excuse me, based on the average number of trips, what

[52:37] fees or excuse me, based on the average number of trips, what we would anticipate a necessary

[52:38] average number of trips, what we would anticipate a necessary

[52:38] average number of trips, what we would anticipate a necessary fee would be to get to full

[52:40] we would anticipate a necessary fee would be to get to full

[52:40] we would anticipate a necessary fee would be to get to full cost recovery. I understand

[52:41] fee would be to get to full cost recovery. I understand

[52:41] fee would be to get to full cost recovery. I understand that, and but we are the ones

[52:44] cost recovery. I understand that, and but we are the ones

[52:45] cost recovery. I understand that, and but we are the ones that dictate what that cost is

[52:47] that, and but we are the ones that dictate what that cost is

[52:47] that, and but we are the ones that dictate what that cost is like. You could give me your

[52:48] that dictate what that cost is like. You could give me your

[52:48] that dictate what that cost is like. You could give me your analysis and we could say, look,

[52:50] like. You could give me your analysis and we could say, look,

[52:50] like. You could give me your analysis and we could say, look, we like these numbers, but we

[52:51] analysis and we could say, look, we like these numbers, but we

[52:51] analysis and we could say, look, we like these numbers, but we suggest that you do it with

[52:53] we like these numbers, but we suggest that you do it with

[52:53] we like these numbers, but we suggest that you do it with these numbers instead so that

[52:54] suggest that you do it with these numbers instead so that

[52:54] suggest that you do it with these numbers instead so that where it costs recovery or that

[52:56] these numbers instead so that where it costs recovery or that

[52:56] these numbers instead so that where it costs recovery or that when we say equity, it's

[52:57] where it costs recovery or that when we say equity, it's

[52:57] where it costs recovery or that when we say equity, it's actually equity, then yes, to

[52:59] when we say equity, it's actually equity, then yes, to

[52:59] when we say equity, it's actually equity, then yes, to be compliant with both state

[53:01] actually equity, then yes, to be compliant with both state

[53:01] actually equity, then yes, to be compliant with both state and city policies, we need to

[53:03] be compliant with both state and city policies, we need to

[53:03] be compliant with both state and city policies, we need to be able to justify that this is

[53:04] and city policies, we need to be able to justify that this is

[53:04] and city policies, we need to be able to justify that this is a reasonable cost. And we

[53:06] be able to justify that this is a reasonable cost. And we

[53:06] be able to justify that this is a reasonable cost. And we justify that by using the data

[53:08] a reasonable cost. And we justify that by using the data

[53:08] a reasonable cost. And we justify that by using the data that we have in the methodology

[53:09] justify that by using the data that we have in the methodology

[53:09] justify that by using the data that we have in the methodology that I presented in the report.

[53:11] that we have in the methodology that I presented in the report.

[53:11] that we have in the methodology that I presented in the report. And then per city policy, we

[53:13] that I presented in the report. And then per city policy, we

[53:13] that I presented in the report. And then per city policy, we know that we can't just put the

[53:15] And then per city policy, we know that we can't just put the

[53:15] And then per city policy, we know that we can't just put the cost burden of the equity zone

[53:17] know that we can't just put the cost burden of the equity zone

[53:17] know that we can't just put the cost burden of the equity zone onto the other areas, onto

[53:18] cost burden of the equity zone onto the other areas, onto

[53:18] cost burden of the equity zone onto the other areas, onto other users. And so with that,

[53:21] onto the other areas, onto other users. And so with that,

[53:21] onto the other areas, onto other users. And so with that, that's why we present from the

[53:22] other users. And so with that, that's why we present from the

[53:22] other users. And so with that, that's why we present from the city's financial policies, if

[53:24] that's why we present from the city's financial policies, if

[53:24] that's why we present from the city's financial policies, if there is a need or a public

[53:26] city's financial policies, if there is a need or a public

[53:26] city's financial policies, if there is a need or a public benefit, the council can find

[53:28] there is a need or a public benefit, the council can find

[53:28] there is a need or a public benefit, the council can find that there is that public

[53:29] benefit, the council can find that there is that public

[53:29] benefit, the council can find that there is that public benefit and then waive that fee.

[53:31] that there is that public benefit and then waive that fee.

[53:31] that there is that public benefit and then waive that fee. And in that case, we would need

[53:32] benefit and then waive that fee. And in that case, we would need

[53:32] benefit and then waive that fee. And in that case, we would need to do a subsidy from the

[53:34] And in that case, we would need to do a subsidy from the

[53:34] And in that case, we would need to do a subsidy from the general fund. Understood.

[53:36] to do a subsidy from the general fund. Understood.

[53:36] to do a subsidy from the general fund. Understood. Either way, we can get to a

[53:38] general fund. Understood. Either way, we can get to a

[53:38] general fund. Understood. Either way, we can get to a subsidy. But thank you for

[53:39] Either way, we can get to a subsidy. But thank you for

[53:39] Either way, we can get to a subsidy. But thank you for explaining that to me. I want

[53:40] subsidy. But thank you for explaining that to me. I want

[53:40] subsidy. But thank you for explaining that to me. I want to understand that piece. I'm

[53:42] explaining that to me. I want to understand that piece. I'm

[53:42] explaining that to me. I want to understand that piece. I'm glad we could get I was able to

[53:43] to understand that piece. I'm glad we could get I was able to

[53:44] to understand that piece. I'm glad we could get I was able to get my question to you clearly.

[53:46] glad we could get I was able to get my question to you clearly.

[53:46] glad we could get I was able to get my question to you clearly. And then the last piece that I

[53:48] get my question to you clearly. And then the last piece that I

[53:48] get my question to you clearly. And then the last piece that I have is what benefits would

[53:50] And then the last piece that I have is what benefits would

[53:50] And then the last piece that I have is what benefits would your department have with the

[53:51] have is what benefits would your department have with the

[53:51] have is what benefits would your department have with the authority and this ridotti?

[53:53] your department have with the authority and this ridotti?

[53:53] your department have with the authority and this ridotti? What benefits would your

[53:54] authority and this ridotti? What benefits would your

[53:54] authority and this ridotti? What benefits would your department have with the

[53:54] What benefits would your department have with the

[53:54] What benefits would your department have with the authority to impound and remove

[53:57] department have with the authority to impound and remove

[53:57] department have with the authority to impound and remove dockless scooters in the public

[53:58] authority to impound and remove dockless scooters in the public

[53:58] authority to impound and remove dockless scooters in the public right of way? And how does that

[53:59] dockless scooters in the public right of way? And how does that

[54:00] dockless scooters in the public right of way? And how does that differ from your current

[54:01] right of way? And how does that differ from your current

[54:01] right of way? And how does that differ from your current operations? Thank you for that

[54:04] differ from your current operations? Thank you for that

[54:04] differ from your current operations? Thank you for that question. The benefit would be

[54:05] operations? Thank you for that question. The benefit would be

[54:05] operations? Thank you for that question. The benefit would be that it would allow us to to

[54:07] question. The benefit would be that it would allow us to to

[54:07] question. The benefit would be that it would allow us to to move quicker to make that

[54:09] that it would allow us to to move quicker to make that

[54:09] that it would allow us to to move quicker to make that removal, as well as ensuring

[54:11] move quicker to make that removal, as well as ensuring

[54:11] move quicker to make that removal, as well as ensuring that we have some control over

[54:12] removal, as well as ensuring that we have some control over

[54:12] removal, as well as ensuring that we have some control over it. Right now, we have to reach

[54:15] that we have some control over it. Right now, we have to reach

[54:15] that we have some control over it. Right now, we have to reach out to other departments to

[54:16] it. Right now, we have to reach out to other departments to

[54:16] it. Right now, we have to reach out to other departments to make that work, and sometimes

[54:18] out to other departments to make that work, and sometimes

[54:18] out to other departments to make that work, and sometimes that would come at a cost.

[54:20] make that work, and sometimes that would come at a cost.

[54:20] make that work, and sometimes that would come at a cost. Fortunately for now, we've been

[54:21] that would come at a cost. Fortunately for now, we've been

[54:21] that would come at a cost. Fortunately for now, we've been able to get the companies to do

[54:23] Fortunately for now, we've been able to get the companies to do

[54:23] Fortunately for now, we've been able to get the companies to do it. But our great fear is if a

[54:26] able to get the companies to do it. But our great fear is if a

[54:26] able to get the companies to do it. But our great fear is if a company were to, for example,

[54:27] it. But our great fear is if a company were to, for example,

[54:27] it. But our great fear is if a company were to, for example, just shut down and go out of

[54:30] company were to, for example, just shut down and go out of

[54:30] company were to, for example, just shut down and go out of business and just leave all

[54:31] just shut down and go out of business and just leave all

[54:31] just shut down and go out of business and just leave all their devices on the right of

[54:33] business and just leave all their devices on the right of

[54:33] business and just leave all their devices on the right of way. Sure, we can chase them

[54:34] their devices on the right of way. Sure, we can chase them

[54:34] their devices on the right of way. Sure, we can chase them down and do those things, but

[54:36] way. Sure, we can chase them down and do those things, but

[54:36] way. Sure, we can chase them down and do those things, but the ultimate goal is for us to

[54:37] down and do those things, but the ultimate goal is for us to

[54:37] down and do those things, but the ultimate goal is for us to get these off the streets now

[54:39] the ultimate goal is for us to get these off the streets now

[54:39] the ultimate goal is for us to get these off the streets now in the next, you know, maybe 72

[54:41] get these off the streets now in the next, you know, maybe 72

[54:41] get these off the streets now in the next, you know, maybe 72 hours or this week. And right

[54:42] in the next, you know, maybe 72 hours or this week. And right

[54:42] in the next, you know, maybe 72 hours or this week. And right now that would be very

[54:43] hours or this week. And right now that would be very

[54:43] hours or this week. And right now that would be very difficult for us to do. And we

[54:45] now that would be very difficult for us to do. And we

[54:45] now that would be very difficult for us to do. And we don't our ladot teams don't

[54:48] difficult for us to do. And we don't our ladot teams don't

[54:48] difficult for us to do. And we don't our ladot teams don't have the authority to do that.

[54:49] don't our ladot teams don't have the authority to do that.

[54:49] don't our ladot teams don't have the authority to do that. We'd have to try to contract

[54:51] have the authority to do that. We'd have to try to contract

[54:51] have the authority to do that. We'd have to try to contract out to someone else to make

[54:52] We'd have to try to contract out to someone else to make

[54:52] We'd have to try to contract out to someone else to make that work. It's like how we're

[54:54] out to someone else to make that work. It's like how we're

[54:54] out to someone else to make that work. It's like how we're now dealing with a bunch of

[54:56] that work. It's like how we're now dealing with a bunch of

[54:56] that work. It's like how we're now dealing with a bunch of empty newspaper boxes and you

[54:59] now dealing with a bunch of empty newspaper boxes and you

[54:59] now dealing with a bunch of empty newspaper boxes and you know, I. Yes, that. Yeah. The

[55:02] empty newspaper boxes and you know, I. Yes, that. Yeah. The

[55:02] empty newspaper boxes and you know, I. Yes, that. Yeah. The payphones. Yeah. No, that

[55:04] know, I. Yes, that. Yeah. The payphones. Yeah. No, that

[55:04] know, I. Yes, that. Yeah. The payphones. Yeah. No, that sounds good. I and that's why I

[55:07] payphones. Yeah. No, that sounds good. I and that's why I

[55:07] payphones. Yeah. No, that sounds good. I and that's why I think we would like to, to

[55:08] sounds good. I and that's why I think we would like to, to

[55:08] sounds good. I and that's why I think we would like to, to figure out how we can move that.

[55:10] think we would like to, to figure out how we can move that.

[55:10] think we would like to, to figure out how we can move that. And I know that Council member

[55:15] figure out how we can move that. And I know that Council member

[55:15] figure out how we can move that. And I know that Council member Nazarian asked about the

[55:16] And I know that Council member Nazarian asked about the

[55:16] And I know that Council member Nazarian asked about the liabilities, but can you just

[55:19] Nazarian asked about the liabilities, but can you just

[55:19] Nazarian asked about the liabilities, but can you just please, for clarification for

[55:20] liabilities, but can you just please, for clarification for

[55:20] liabilities, but can you just please, for clarification for me, two things. What

[55:23] please, for clarification for me, two things. What

[55:23] please, for clarification for me, two things. What indemnification protections

[55:25] me, two things. What indemnification protections

[55:25] me, two things. What indemnification protections does the city have under this

[55:26] indemnification protections does the city have under this

[55:26] indemnification protections does the city have under this program? And what insurance

[55:27] does the city have under this program? And what insurance

[55:27] does the city have under this program? And what insurance coverage are operators required

[55:28] program? And what insurance coverage are operators required

[55:28] program? And what insurance coverage are operators required to carry? So I don't know. But

[55:32] coverage are operators required to carry? So I don't know. But

[55:32] coverage are operators required to carry? So I don't know. But our indemnification is it's

[55:34] to carry? So I don't know. But our indemnification is it's

[55:34] to carry? So I don't know. But our indemnification is it's actually very good. The city

[55:35] our indemnification is it's actually very good. The city

[55:35] our indemnification is it's actually very good. The city attorney's drafted it. It's

[55:37] actually very good. The city attorney's drafted it. It's

[55:37] actually very good. The city attorney's drafted it. It's incredibly strong. I don't know,

[55:39] attorney's drafted it. It's incredibly strong. I don't know,

[55:39] attorney's drafted it. It's incredibly strong. I don't know, Mike. Do you want to speak to

[55:40] incredibly strong. I don't know, Mike. Do you want to speak to

[55:41] incredibly strong. I don't know, Mike. Do you want to speak to it? Yeah, it's as you know,

[55:44] Mike. Do you want to speak to it? Yeah, it's as you know,

[55:44] Mike. Do you want to speak to it? Yeah, it's as you know, it's we have a actually in the

[55:46] it? Yeah, it's as you know, it's we have a actually in the

[55:46] it? Yeah, it's as you know, it's we have a actually in the country. Ours is the most

[55:48] it's we have a actually in the country. Ours is the most

[55:48] it's we have a actually in the country. Ours is the most robust of any other

[55:50] country. Ours is the most robust of any other

[55:50] country. Ours is the most robust of any other municipality. And we did that

[55:52] robust of any other municipality. And we did that

[55:52] robust of any other municipality. And we did that deliberately because we knew

[55:54] municipality. And we did that deliberately because we knew

[55:54] municipality. And we did that deliberately because we knew going in what the regulation

[55:56] deliberately because we knew going in what the regulation

[55:56] deliberately because we knew going in what the regulation was going to look like, what it

[55:57] going in what the regulation was going to look like, what it

[55:57] going in what the regulation was going to look like, what it had to look like in order for

[55:59] was going to look like, what it had to look like in order for

[55:59] was going to look like, what it had to look like in order for these to drive safely on our

[56:01] had to look like in order for these to drive safely on our

[56:01] had to look like in order for these to drive safely on our roads or be operated, because a

[56:03] these to drive safely on our roads or be operated, because a

[56:03] these to drive safely on our roads or be operated, because a lot of them are not. And we

[56:05] roads or be operated, because a lot of them are not. And we

[56:05] roads or be operated, because a lot of them are not. And we knew the liability was going to

[56:06] lot of them are not. And we knew the liability was going to

[56:07] lot of them are not. And we knew the liability was going to be off the charts, and they

[56:08] knew the liability was going to be off the charts, and they

[56:08] knew the liability was going to be off the charts, and they would always reach for that

[56:10] be off the charts, and they would always reach for that

[56:10] be off the charts, and they would always reach for that look to do, you know, accuse us

[56:11] would always reach for that look to do, you know, accuse us

[56:12] would always reach for that look to do, you know, accuse us of of their negligence. And so

[56:15] look to do, you know, accuse us of of their negligence. And so

[56:15] look to do, you know, accuse us of of their negligence. And so we had initially wanted 10

[56:18] of of their negligence. And so we had initially wanted 10

[56:18] of of their negligence. And so we had initially wanted 10 million per incident. 10

[56:20] we had initially wanted 10 million per incident. 10

[56:20] we had initially wanted 10 million per incident. 10 million umbrella policy. And

[56:23] million per incident. 10 million umbrella policy. And

[56:24] million per incident. 10 million umbrella policy. And the council at that time, we

[56:25] million umbrella policy. And the council at that time, we

[56:25] million umbrella policy. And the council at that time, we had one council member who was

[56:27] the council at that time, we had one council member who was

[56:27] the council at that time, we had one council member who was adamantly opposed and wanted it

[56:29] had one council member who was adamantly opposed and wanted it

[56:29] had one council member who was adamantly opposed and wanted it to be a million, which would

[56:30] adamantly opposed and wanted it to be a million, which would

[56:30] adamantly opposed and wanted it to be a million, which would have been completely inadequate.

[56:32] to be a million, which would have been completely inadequate.

[56:32] to be a million, which would have been completely inadequate. And ultimately it was agreed.

[56:34] have been completely inadequate. And ultimately it was agreed.

[56:34] have been completely inadequate. And ultimately it was agreed. The council president at the

[56:35] And ultimately it was agreed. The council president at the

[56:35] And ultimately it was agreed. The council president at the time, council member, Krekorian

[56:37] The council president at the time, council member, Krekorian

[56:37] The council president at the time, council member, Krekorian former council member. They

[56:39] time, council member, Krekorian former council member. They

[56:39] time, council member, Krekorian former council member. They agreed to 5 million per

[56:40] former council member. They agreed to 5 million per

[56:40] former council member. They agreed to 5 million per incident, 5 million umbrella.

[56:43] agreed to 5 million per incident, 5 million umbrella.

[56:43] agreed to 5 million per incident, 5 million umbrella. And that's where it currently

[56:44] incident, 5 million umbrella. And that's where it currently

[56:44] incident, 5 million umbrella. And that's where it currently is. And going forward, if we

[56:46] And that's where it currently is. And going forward, if we

[56:47] And that's where it currently is. And going forward, if we need to change that again, if

[56:48] is. And going forward, if we need to change that again, if

[56:48] is. And going forward, if we need to change that again, if we determine, you know, that'll

[56:50] need to change that again, if we determine, you know, that'll

[56:50] need to change that again, if we determine, you know, that'll be up to the council to ask us

[56:52] we determine, you know, that'll be up to the council to ask us

[56:52] we determine, you know, that'll be up to the council to ask us to do that. If we think they're

[56:54] be up to the council to ask us to do that. If we think they're

[56:54] be up to the council to ask us to do that. If we think they're inadequate at any time. Great.

[56:56] to do that. If we think they're inadequate at any time. Great.

[56:56] to do that. If we think they're inadequate at any time. Great. Thank you. Thank you so much.

[56:58] inadequate at any time. Great. Thank you. Thank you so much.

[56:58] inadequate at any time. Great. Thank you. Thank you so much. And the assurance that Will is

[57:00] Thank you. Thank you so much. And the assurance that Will is

[57:00] Thank you. Thank you so much. And the assurance that Will is that something we don't have

[57:01] And the assurance that Will is that something we don't have

[57:01] And the assurance that Will is that something we don't have that would we'll need to talk

[57:02] that something we don't have that would we'll need to talk

[57:02] that something we don't have that would we'll need to talk to the companies about. We

[57:06] that would we'll need to talk to the companies about. We

[57:06] that would we'll need to talk to the companies about. We require the insurance. And as

[57:07] to the companies about. We require the insurance. And as

[57:07] to the companies about. We require the insurance. And as Mike mentioned, that will be up

[57:09] require the insurance. And as Mike mentioned, that will be up

[57:09] require the insurance. And as Mike mentioned, that will be up to the council to make any

[57:11] Mike mentioned, that will be up to the council to make any

[57:11] Mike mentioned, that will be up to the council to make any changes related to the

[57:12] to the council to make any changes related to the

[57:12] to the council to make any changes related to the insurance. So the council has

[57:13] changes related to the insurance. So the council has

[57:13] changes related to the insurance. So the council has that ability to make those

[57:14] insurance. So the council has that ability to make those

[57:15] insurance. So the council has that ability to make those changes. Understood. Thank you

[57:15] that ability to make those changes. Understood. Thank you

[57:15] that ability to make those changes. Understood. Thank you for that clarity. I have no

[57:17] changes. Understood. Thank you for that clarity. I have no

[57:17] changes. Understood. Thank you for that clarity. I have no more questions, colleagues. Any

[57:18] for that clarity. I have no more questions, colleagues. Any

[57:18] for that clarity. I have no more questions, colleagues. Any more questions? Great. I'll

[57:20] more questions, colleagues. Any more questions? Great. I'll

[57:20] more questions, colleagues. Any more questions? Great. I'll pass it back to I yield. Thank

[57:22] more questions? Great. I'll pass it back to I yield. Thank

[57:22] more questions? Great. I'll pass it back to I yield. Thank you chair so much members.

[57:25] pass it back to I yield. Thank you chair so much members.

[57:25] pass it back to I yield. Thank you chair so much members. After the several months of

[57:27] you chair so much members. After the several months of

[57:27] you chair so much members. After the several months of meetings that we had on this

[57:28] After the several months of meetings that we had on this

[57:28] After the several months of meetings that we had on this issue, I want to put forth

[57:30] meetings that we had on this issue, I want to put forth

[57:30] meetings that we had on this issue, I want to put forth recommendations that capture

[57:33] issue, I want to put forth recommendations that capture

[57:33] issue, I want to put forth recommendations that capture the issues in all of the

[57:35] recommendations that capture the issues in all of the

[57:35] recommendations that capture the issues in all of the reports and bought some balance

[57:36] the issues in all of the reports and bought some balance

[57:36] the issues in all of the reports and bought some balance to getting us to full cost

[57:38] reports and bought some balance to getting us to full cost

[57:38] reports and bought some balance to getting us to full cost recovery. My recommendations

[57:40] to getting us to full cost recovery. My recommendations

[57:40] to getting us to full cost recovery. My recommendations include $150,000 permit fee for

[57:45] recovery. My recommendations include $150,000 permit fee for

[57:45] recovery. My recommendations include $150,000 permit fee for operators, as well as a

[57:46] include $150,000 permit fee for operators, as well as a

[57:46] include $150,000 permit fee for operators, as well as a meaningful subsidy for the

[57:48] operators, as well as a meaningful subsidy for the

[57:48] operators, as well as a meaningful subsidy for the equity focused development

[57:49] meaningful subsidy for the equity focused development

[57:49] meaningful subsidy for the equity focused development districts. Based on the current

[57:51] equity focused development districts. Based on the current

[57:51] equity focused development districts. Based on the current and historical record of on

[57:53] districts. Based on the current and historical record of on

[57:54] districts. Based on the current and historical record of on demand mobility program. These

[57:57] and historical record of on demand mobility program. These

[57:57] and historical record of on demand mobility program. These recommendations use the same

[57:59] demand mobility program. These recommendations use the same

[57:59] demand mobility program. These recommendations use the same analysis as the CBO report, and

[58:02] recommendations use the same analysis as the CBO report, and

[58:02] recommendations use the same analysis as the CBO report, and while the subsidy may require

[58:04] analysis as the CBO report, and while the subsidy may require

[58:04] analysis as the CBO report, and while the subsidy may require general fund dollars to fill

[58:05] while the subsidy may require general fund dollars to fill

[58:05] while the subsidy may require general fund dollars to fill any funding gaps, I believe as

[58:07] general fund dollars to fill any funding gaps, I believe as

[58:08] general fund dollars to fill any funding gaps, I believe as a city, we're here to balance

[58:09] any funding gaps, I believe as a city, we're here to balance

[58:09] any funding gaps, I believe as a city, we're here to balance all of our revenue streams in

[58:11] a city, we're here to balance all of our revenue streams in

[58:11] a city, we're here to balance all of our revenue streams in the best interests of our

[58:13] all of our revenue streams in the best interests of our

[58:13] all of our revenue streams in the best interests of our residents. I want to be mindful

[58:15] the best interests of our residents. I want to be mindful

[58:15] the best interests of our residents. I want to be mindful that we that we, while we are

[58:20] residents. I want to be mindful that we that we, while we are

[58:20] residents. I want to be mindful that we that we, while we are trying to achieve balance, we

[58:22] that we that we, while we are trying to achieve balance, we

[58:22] that we that we, while we are trying to achieve balance, we also need to have measures in

[58:24] trying to achieve balance, we also need to have measures in

[58:24] trying to achieve balance, we also need to have measures in place to protect the city from

[58:25] also need to have measures in place to protect the city from

[58:25] also need to have measures in place to protect the city from any liability from

[58:28] place to protect the city from any liability from

[58:28] place to protect the city from any liability from overcollection and have a

[58:30] any liability from overcollection and have a

[58:30] any liability from overcollection and have a process in place to do so.

[58:33] overcollection and have a process in place to do so.

[58:33] overcollection and have a process in place to do so. Lastly, I want to thank the Cao

[58:35] process in place to do so. Lastly, I want to thank the Cao

[58:35] process in place to do so. Lastly, I want to thank the Cao and Dot staff that have been

[58:37] Lastly, I want to thank the Cao and Dot staff that have been

[58:37] Lastly, I want to thank the Cao and Dot staff that have been working on this issue for

[58:38] and Dot staff that have been working on this issue for

[58:38] and Dot staff that have been working on this issue for nearly a year. We truly

[58:40] working on this issue for nearly a year. We truly

[58:41] working on this issue for nearly a year. We truly appreciate all your hard work

[58:42] nearly a year. We truly appreciate all your hard work

[58:42] nearly a year. We truly appreciate all your hard work and look forward to moving

[58:44] appreciate all your hard work and look forward to moving

[58:44] appreciate all your hard work and look forward to moving these recommendations. Are

[58:48] and look forward to moving these recommendations. Are

[58:48] and look forward to moving these recommendations. Are there any objections to

[58:51] these recommendations. Are there any objections to

[58:51] these recommendations. Are there any objections to adopting the Transportation

[58:52] there any objections to adopting the Transportation

[58:52] there any objections to adopting the Transportation Committee Chair's

[58:55] adopting the Transportation Committee Chair's

[58:55] adopting the Transportation Committee Chair's recommendations, as amended by

[58:56] Committee Chair's recommendations, as amended by

[58:56] Committee Chair's recommendations, as amended by the Public Works Committee

[58:58] recommendations, as amended by the Public Works Committee

[58:58] recommendations, as amended by the Public Works Committee chair members? Members? No.

[59:02] the Public Works Committee chair members? Members? No.

[59:03] the Public Works Committee chair members? Members? No. Okay, then, Mr. Clerk, can you

[59:05] chair members? Members? No. Okay, then, Mr. Clerk, can you

[59:05] chair members? Members? No. Okay, then, Mr. Clerk, can you please call the roll? Certainly.

[59:06] Okay, then, Mr. Clerk, can you please call the roll? Certainly.

[59:07] Okay, then, Mr. Clerk, can you please call the roll? Certainly. For transportation committee.

[59:08] please call the roll? Certainly. For transportation committee.

[59:08] please call the roll? Certainly. For transportation committee. Council member. Hutt. Yes.

[59:10] For transportation committee. Council member. Hutt. Yes.

[59:11] For transportation committee. Council member. Hutt. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes.

[59:13] Council member. Hutt. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes.

[59:13] Council member. Hutt. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez.

[59:15] Council member. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez.

[59:15] Council member. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes.

[59:17] Councilmember. Hernandez. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes.

[59:17] Councilmember. Hernandez. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Counselor. Nazarian. Aye. And

[59:20] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Counselor. Nazarian. Aye. And

[59:20] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Counselor. Nazarian. Aye. And for Public Works Committee.

[59:22] Counselor. Nazarian. Aye. And for Public Works Committee.

[59:22] Counselor. Nazarian. Aye. And for Public Works Committee. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes.

[59:23] for Public Works Committee. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes.

[59:23] for Public Works Committee. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes.

[59:26] Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes.

[59:26] Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Councilmember. Hutt. Yes. Okay.

[59:27] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Councilmember. Hutt. Yes. Okay.

[59:27] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Councilmember. Hutt. Yes. Okay. These matters are approved, as

[59:29] Councilmember. Hutt. Yes. Okay. These matters are approved, as

[59:29] Councilmember. Hutt. Yes. Okay. These matters are approved, as amended, both through the Chair

[59:31] These matters are approved, as amended, both through the Chair

[59:31] These matters are approved, as amended, both through the Chair of Public Works and the Chair

[59:33] amended, both through the Chair of Public Works and the Chair

[59:33] amended, both through the Chair of Public Works and the Chair of Transportation. Thank you.

[59:36] of Public Works and the Chair of Transportation. Thank you.

[59:36] of Public Works and the Chair of Transportation. Thank you. Mr. Clerk. Is there any

[59:37] of Transportation. Thank you. Mr. Clerk. Is there any

[59:37] of Transportation. Thank you. Mr. Clerk. Is there any additional business before the

[59:38] Mr. Clerk. Is there any additional business before the

[59:38] Mr. Clerk. Is there any additional business before the committee today that clears the

[59:40] additional business before the committee today that clears the

[59:40] additional business before the committee today that clears the desk? Thank you. Committee

[59:42] committee today that clears the desk? Thank you. Committee

[59:42] committee today that clears the desk? Thank you. Committee members and members of the

[59:43] desk? Thank you. Committee members and members of the

[59:43] desk? Thank you. Committee members and members of the public. This meeting is

[59:45] members and members of the public. This meeting is

[59:45] members and members of the public. This meeting is adjourned.

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