[0:41] And so, for the three,

[0:48] to see their say, how can they change something?

[0:51] I'm going to talk about it and that's in a growth area, especially for yourselves.

[0:56] I'm going to give you a little background.

[1:00] I'm going to talk about the progress.

[1:02] There you go.

[1:04] We've really been surprised when we're talking about it here.

[1:10] We've been talking about a lot of growth here in the senior year.

[1:16] We've been using things to pick that area as we know.

[1:18] I don't know, it's a good place.

[1:29] I don't know, it's a good place.

[1:33] I think I'm not trying to get it.

[1:37] I don't know.

[1:38] People in a hack and do it, I can't.

[1:43] I can't.

[1:43] It's the only thing I can do.

[1:48] They all look terrible.

[1:49] They just accept what they're talking about.

[1:52] I don't know.

[1:53] They're probably not.

[1:55] They're not.

[1:58] They're not.

[1:58] This is how I start I don't know anything.

[2:02] They don't know anything.

[2:04] I don't know anything.

[2:05] I don't know anything.

[2:05] They don't know anything.

[2:06] You know, I'm sorry.

[2:07] Hey, did you tell us?

[2:08] Yeah, did you?

[2:09] Well, we can shoot.

[2:10] I think they didn't know you'd be on the Internet.

[2:12] But I think we're not able to know it.

[2:14] They didn't know.

[2:16] I don't know.

[2:16] They wanted to know.

[2:16] I don't know, I think they didn't just think we're going to know.

[2:18] You know, commercial, I don't know.

[2:21] But yeah.

[2:22] I think they didn't know.

[2:23] We don't know.

[2:24] What do you mean?

[2:25] That is the reason.

[2:26] Is that the reason?

[3:54] I'm not using the important in a name, but I'm on it.

[3:58] I appreciate it.

[4:07] I appreciate it.

[4:09] I appreciate it.

[4:17] You're another one of us leaving.

[4:20] They see me though.

[4:22] It's calling me dawda.

[4:25] They have roll gold place.

[4:32] It's not calling off of them.

[4:35] Well let's just have them catch them.

[4:45] Thank you for allowing us to go to here today to do the business of Louisiana, please guide us in our decisions so we can do the best for those we represent.

[4:55] I'd like you to keep a washful eye with this sort of this country, both here in a bro, and here in this land we pray.

[5:05] It's a lie.

[5:07] In the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands, one nation, under God,

[5:16] in justice for all.

[5:25] Thank you.

[5:25] Thank

[5:40] you.

[5:41] I'll do my best.

[5:43] I'll do my best.

[5:46] I'll do my best.

[5:51] I'll do my best.

[5:52] I'll do my best.

[5:55] I'll do my best.

[5:57] but I'm not sure which ones they all

[6:01] end up in a state of name if you would have money.

[6:07] Well, you can set that out in Taurina.

[6:10] You are right.

[6:11] Yeah, that's how you do it though.

[6:13] I'm very curious.

[6:14] Andy, you're not interested.

[6:16] Thank you.

[6:19] You're a constitutional officer.

[6:21] We got that.

[6:22] Thank you.

[6:23] That's not the agenda.

[6:28] So move the chair.

[6:31] The motion to adopt agenda in a second.

[6:33] All of the folks that I have,

[6:40] yeah, as well, I've probably come in and pray that anybody

[6:42] would wish to come back a state to the board, but anything that's not on their agenda

[6:49] and I come to the podium to stage a name of the dress and keep it to three minutes if you

[6:55] would,

[6:58] and you want to wish them to speak,

[7:04] closely, positive coming in prayer, everyone

[7:08] have in it, recommendations coming forward and everything like that.

[7:16] Next agenda item is, I have information items presentation by Thomas Johnson, Gold, Career Education.

[7:28] Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman and members of the board.

[7:32] I'm Laura Richardson.

[7:33] I'll teach coordinator for Dalton Career Rate, Thomas Jefferson and Louisa County.

[7:37] This is Barbara Wilson.

[7:38] She's the Chief Examiner for GED for Pearson D.

[7:42] We have a presentation for you this afternoon.

[7:48] Don't move it.

[8:05] Here we are.

[8:06] We are Thomas Jefferson Delta Career Education at the Louise Center.

[8:10] We are based at 8.715.

[8:11] David's Highway at the turn of Ed Center.

[8:15] We have GD classes at the center which is free.

[8:18] We have Tuesdays and Thursday mornings from 9 a.m. to 12 noon.

[8:22] We have Tuesdays and Thursday evenings from 5.30 to 8.30 p.m.

[8:27] The subject matter that's taught is brought we have four basic things, math, science,

[8:32] social status and language arts. We are reasoning in mathematical reasoning, algebra, geometry,

[8:38] reasoning through science, reasoning through social status, and the use of the computer,

[8:42] because the GEDT has now totally computer-based. Career pathways is a part of our learning

[8:49] links, and career pathways is something we do to help you to help choose a career, in the

[8:55] upon how you score on your GED test as a quick type of diploma that you will be receiving.

[9:02] We have human metrics, we have bot learning which tells you how you learn.

[9:08] This is what this will do in Virginia Wizard and we are going to solve where a lot in

[9:12] page.

[9:14] We have plug in Virginia which is through PVCC, it's customer service training in national

[9:19] certification.

[9:19] It's nine credits through Piedmont of Virginia Career Readiness Certification, which is also recognized throughout the country.

[9:29] Computer skills and certification can re-experation and tools for the workplace of this.

[9:34] Meetings and workshops with local employees.

[9:37] We also tried to help you find a job through workforce.

[9:43] The new GAGD exam, Ms. Wilson.

[9:46] This

[9:50] is the second year, we're into this testing series, the GED exam practice was

[9:55] Peckler.

[9:57] As January 1 of 2014, it went to a completely computer-based test.

[10:03] The hint we have to teach computer skills to our adult learners.

[10:08] Most of our testers are 35 and older, and they do not have computer skills, so we have

[10:15] work very hard on this.

[10:16] Each test now costs $30, $10 for retakes, but during January 26th through February 28th we run in a special.

[10:27] Then this comes from GED from Washington DC, anyone who signs up the first time testers, they will save $10 on their tests, which is actually excellent.

[10:38] They don't sign up with us anymore, they used to walk into my office and sign up to take a test right there.

[10:43] It doesn't happen. They have to have a computer or access to a computer which we help them with.

[10:49] We log them in. They have to have a credit card.

[10:51] Or they go to Walmart. They get a prepaid card or something to that effect.

[10:56] And we do it that way. We also can buy vouchers which we do for our students.

[11:01] If they complete the testing or pre-testing and skills with our students, then we'll pay for them to test.

[11:06] The scores range from 100 to 250 is passing, and they receive their credentials when they pass the four exam.

[11:15] Now, the four exams, really interesting.

[11:19] Now, everybody has to write an essay.

[11:21] Used to be, we had a writing exam, and they asked for a full-page essay.

[11:27] Now, they have to write an essay on the reading test.

[11:29] They have to write a response, pretty extended on the science, and extended response in social studies.

[11:35] And they do need a lot of computer skills.

[11:38] This graphic here shows to you the types of computer skills that they need.

[11:44] You need to be able to multiple choice, drop-downs, fill in the blanks, drag and drop,

[11:49] do the hot spots and short answers on the various testing.

[11:53] This is very problematic if you are 55 years old like I was going to read.

[11:58] And you have it then in the classroom since 1976, when you were 16 years old.

[12:03] And the only computer that you have is maybe a smart phone and you're 13 year old told you how to use.

[12:09] So we have to do a lot of computer testing and training.

[12:15] They have to be able to use the mouse and the keyboard and they have to be able to read the text on the screen.

[12:21] Some folks can't do that.

[12:22] I have to put yellow screens and top of their screens.

[12:25] It's all kinds of craziness going on in my world.

[12:28] They have to be able to drag and drop answers.

[12:30] So they have to be able to fix the calculator, there's on the screen, so you have to be able to pull the calculator down, use it on the screen.

[12:39] They have to ask for a handheld calculator not having anybody do that, but we can do that.

[12:45] They have to be able to navigate between the tasks, they have to be able to type.

[12:50] And if you're a hot and pector, it can take away from what you do.

[12:54] So they're working with a lot of interactive information and things like that and cutting and copying and pasting.

[13:02] And a lot of folks do not know how to copy and paste, so we spend a great deal of time, not just on social studies, reading sites, social studies,

[13:09] but teaching their computers stuff.

[13:13] Loans are going to talk to you more about what they need to do to get ready, the classes, free classes, that's next thing.

[13:21] Are you prepared for the G&E Testio 10 classes?

[13:24] 2s and 3s and mornings 9s to 12 noon?

[13:28] 2s and 3s to evenings from 530 to 830 p.m.

[13:32] Preared to go for your class to come to this alternative education center,

[13:36] Louisiana County Public Schools.

[13:38] We are the only flight trailer out there.

[13:40] So we are easy to find when you turn in, we are facing you.

[13:44] Or you can go to www.adultslearn.org and click on learning links.

[13:49] Yes, you do have to pay for a practice test now. All this is done through Pearson V, a practice test will cost you $6 per test.

[13:58] The JD test offers two score levels, and that Mrs. Wilson explains that.

[14:04] One of the things that we didn't have on our previous JD testing, it was a flat score.

[14:09] So we had a lot of young people who would go from us to PVCC or J. Sergeant Reynolds or any of our Virginia community college system, and they were trying to file for scholarships or grants and things.

[14:25] If they had a certain score, it had to be a really high score, they would qualify.

[14:29] But what the National GED testing service did on this now, we now have two divisions.

[14:36] So, they get, when they roll out to them, they get either they pass with honors or

[14:41] they pass with just an equivalency.

[14:44] Those that pass with honors, it will tell them straight up, go to college, do something.

[14:50] And we encourage all of our folks to move on when there it is to go to community college to

[14:57] We've reached the technical center to, um...

[15:00] Hey, Tech, and Charlottesville, to get certifications and stuff. In Louise County, you gentlemen are probably very fully aware that we have between 4 and 6,000 adults who do not have a GED. I don't have the last figure right since it's figured right in my head. And those folks are not our young people. We've done an excellent job with Louise County College schools and keeping our young people in, but we do have a lot of folks who are 40 and older.

[15:30] who need to reeducate themselves and we found this particularly when we had lost a couple of

[15:38] folks our businesses with the IDA down in the industrial development center. People have

[15:43] worked there since they had left high school for whatever reason and they were there for

[15:47] 15 or 20 years and then the buildings left or the companies left and they didn't have anywhere

[15:54] to go. They tried to go into the workforce and in today's workforce without even a high school

[15:59] the public. People won't even look at you. The military, you cannot go into the military

[16:06] with just a GED even. You have to have a full-flage high-speed plumber or if you have

[16:13] a GED, you have to almost have an associate before they look at you and then you have to

[16:18] take the ass out and see if you place and you have to place extremely hot. Because at this

[16:23] point, our military is highly competitive.

[16:27] Well, I want to thank you for your time and I'm also going to just wrap up, but I know

[16:32] we spoke before meeting started this evening to several of you in Mr. Jentnery.

[16:36] I was talking about one of the statements in my health right after the earthquake a couple

[16:41] years ago.

[16:42] And I will tell you folks, I have had young men, older men, and women, stand at my desk

[16:48] in cry.

[16:49] Because they never thought they would be able to accomplish this and we're very proud of what

[16:53] we do.

[16:54] And we just wanted to make you aware and at any time that we can help you or help one of your neighbors, please call us.

[17:02] We'll go and meet with them. That's specifically what love with us.

[17:06] And I have two young people coming in and the morning to test.

[17:09] We're open right now because we're in places to see services.

[17:13] We're open on Mondays and Wednesdays because I'm no longer teaching full time.

[17:18] I'm into GED full time.

[17:20] So we're there Mondays and Wednesdays from 92 and we want to be busy. We truly do.

[17:29] Thank you, Ms. Wilson. And we operate. We operate because we are always the county adult career

[17:34] education as a part of the Thomas Jefferson adult career education of Charlottesville.

[17:39] Which is a part of the Thomas Jefferson planning district.

[17:43] Therefore you have the Thomas Jefferson and done the career education. That's how we get our name.

[17:48] We are Louisa Bates. I'm the Louisa representative. We are funded by federal and state grants within

[17:53] time from Louisa County Public Schools. And this is how you contact us. And if you can't remember

[17:59] in of these numbers, just call to school board office central office. And just like I need GED,

[18:04] they put you right through. And if I'm not there, you would get a voice message. And I'm going to tell

[18:09] you a very pleasant voice message because we want you to come in and send people to us. We do have a

[18:36] Thank you for your time.

[18:45] And thank you, Felicity.

[18:48] Thank you, Mr. Rich,

[18:50] I'd like to make a comment.

[18:53] I'd like to make a comment.

[18:55] I've had the privilege of knowing some of the folks in the Canada's past or D.D.

[18:59] And it's just no word for it to describe it.

[19:01] But most of them, they tell their story,

[19:03] you will cry.

[19:05] It's that important to them.

[19:07] So thank you for what you did.

[19:08] I really do appreciate it.

[19:10] And I was simply to applaud you and thank you for all that you do too.

[19:15] I'm just curious, but I think I know the answer, but you said that it's all done by computer now.

[19:23] Everywhere in the state.

[19:24] No, but here's the number.

[19:26] No, no.

[19:27] Nation line.

[19:28] They look to you if you're testing a jargon.

[19:31] And we tested English and Spanish.

[19:35] And we have worked with a lot of transit, particularly coming out on call pepper, they come down and see us, because right now I have two seats, I'm really small, and when they come to see me, they come because it's one on one, and I hope I make it difficult.

[19:55] I think that would make a difference, actually.

[19:59] Oh, Ms. Bals.

[19:59] Yes.

[20:00] Ms. Balsen, thank you all for coming.

[20:03] On one of the pages, you said, writing is required.

[20:07] No longer, we teach cursive in some of the schools.

[20:11] How did they write now, is it?

[20:17] Mr. Balsen, when we work with our students in the classroom,

[20:21] they work, first of all, we teach writing skills and then we work with them on their

[20:26] and ship. If they so choose to learn curses, even at the adult age, I'm certainly willing

[20:33] to teach them just like I was trying to teach Braden how to do it last semester when I

[20:36] had him.

[20:39] I think curses is an arm and I love curses and that's what I do and when I taught

[20:43] seven great last semester, I had a lot of students who lost patience with me but I said,

[20:48] can you read this letter, this letter, this letter, this letter puts together, you got your work.

[20:54] But their responses are done on the computer, so but when we work with them in the classroom,

[21:00] all their pre-writes and things are done, and Ms. Diana, if they so choose to do

[21:05] in cursive, that is certainly welcome.

[21:08] I think it's sad that you're getting away from that.

[21:11] But thank you.

[21:12] I'm happy.

[21:18] Before we move on to the next item, I need to back up.

[21:22] to recognize and I fail to recognize the Durban Act in County Attorney to all most

[21:30] long to get back.

[21:32] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[21:35] Good evening.

[21:37] All right, next to the end of the item is industrial development, I'm going to update

[21:41] if you would let that go.

[21:49] Good afternoon.

[21:49] My name's Bob Clark.

[21:51] I'm a board member of Industrial Development Authority.

[21:55] Most of the asked us a childman has been in sunny Florida, so he has to be a fear to

[22:00] night for us to portal the update.

[22:04] There's not a whole lot, but when I'm sure Andy has been in the way, has been keeping

[22:09] you all posted on what's happening, we've got the Cavalier Produce Project, which is developing

[22:19] go fast into the burnt cliff of business park on again is, I think the bids are like going

[22:27] for bids on construction, but that's what this weekend is that right on next week.

[22:34] So, let's ask those in the end and working with a group for possibly a nursing home or

[22:40] self-care home that looks like it's moving well and they're actually looking at a lot of

[22:47] east of town on right 22 at this point now. We would have liked to gotten me to library

[22:54] track, but that doesn't seem to really, really suit them.

[23:00] As far as the rail park is concerned, nothing really developing by our end is got like one prospect

[23:06] that he's been working with, but certainly nothing concrete there yet.

[23:12] I'll be glad to entertain any questions.

[23:15] I noticed most of the haveices, not here tonight, but I would like to thank him for, well,

[23:21] he was at Laezon all year and I appreciate the attendance and I'll put him in this very

[23:28] few meetings.

[23:30] And we'll thank him for that.

[23:32] His brothers thank Andy for all the health details.

[23:35] He does most of the league work and all the hard work.

[23:39] Any questions?

[23:42] question of law and those, trying to meet Canada, we have John Means on the 29th of

[23:50] the day.

[23:51] Yes, we do, and hopefully all of y'all can attend, it should be real good and be at

[23:56] the venue community bank, at the 12th of the day, the corporate son, and we're from each

[24:02] near the one of you.

[24:04] Thank you.

[24:04] Are we also going to have we have for it?

[24:07] Yes, we are.

[24:07] and most powers is just going to take over right now.

[24:11] Let me send that.

[24:14] Thank you.

[24:15] Thank you.

[24:20] Good evening.

[24:20] Ladies and gentlemen of the board.

[24:22] My name is Jared Powers.

[24:23] For those who haven't met me on the Airport Manager,

[24:27] been there for about a year.

[24:30] I enjoy it a good deal.

[24:31] A lot of it's been kind of scary as well.

[24:35] But I would like to start off by thinking,

[24:38] each and every board member, because without the support of the board,

[24:41] there is no airports, both financially and through the support that has been given to the

[24:49] airport since it opened in the 80s. We just seek to exist without you guys. It definitely

[24:55] appreciates the support and the help and the advice that has been given to me over the past

[24:59] year. At the airport, our traffic, our air traffic is up just a little bit from what it was

[25:07] last year. I think this weather has pretty well everything to do with it.

[25:11] There's just more days where you're able to fly, so that's been great.

[25:18] To address the RFP that we had to search for a fixed-based operator at the airport, we do have

[25:26] a company that's Cavalier Aviation LLC and it's owned and operated by Greg Armstrong.

[25:34] So far so good, he's on a probationary period as of right now, but because the customer

[25:41] service has been there. He's done a fantastic job. He shows us our PNL, his PNL statements

[25:48] from his work over the past four months, I believe it is. He's nearing the end of that

[25:55] probationary period, so what will happen is the idea of evaluating his progress in his success

[26:02] and decide whether or not to keep it. He is providing aircraft maintenance and fuel services.

[26:08] And so far so good, it's been a pleasure to work with you keeps the airport in a clean, you know, never had a clean.

[26:18] The airport does have several projects that are going on.

[26:22] The first of which is the runway light taxiway light and bulk rehabilitation.

[26:30] To be honest, the runway lights we have there now, they work, they work fine.

[26:34] But the state of Virginia is no longer going to support maintaining them.

[26:40] They no longer make it factor apart for them anymore.

[26:43] These lights are made to break away if someone runs in, so it doesn't damage an airplane.

[26:48] And as of right now, they're approximately $400 a piece.

[26:52] So, you know, we have the occasional bump into a little lawnmower or a pile of snow off the runway.

[26:58] What really adds up is the state of Virginia and the Federal Aviation Administration

[27:02] administration or no longer going to support us.

[27:05] So that's where this project comes in.

[27:07] It's a three-phase project or in the second phase of it now.

[27:13] The project is funded, 98% or 96% by the federal aviation administration, 2% from the Virginia

[27:22] Department of Aviation with a remaining 2% falling locally.

[27:25] So, in a nutshell, it's approximately $30,000 locally for a 1.4 million dollar project.

[27:34] So, it's actually, it's a pretty good deal.

[27:37] We definitely like being, being having access to that.

[27:42] The face that we're in right now, we just finished up, about to finish up the design.

[27:46] It's in the engineer's hands.

[27:48] The environmental assessment has been passed.

[27:50] So, there's no additional ditches or catch ponds or anything like that that needs to be installed.

[27:58] The infrastructure we have now, do it just fine.

[28:02] And that should finish up the design should finish up probably the end of February beginning March.

[28:07] Then next we'll obviously come bids, once the design is finished followed by the actual construction.

[28:13] The terminal building is the second part or the second major construction project that we're

[28:22] undertaking at the airport.

[28:25] For us, the terminal building is the first impression of the county.

[28:30] If a business flies in to the airport or if an individual that's looking to purchase land,

[28:35] falls into the airport, it's a very first thing that they see.

[28:39] One of the examples that I gave is when the large attractive land was auctioned over near the lake this past summer.

[28:47] We had 17 aircrafts that flew in to bid on that property.

[28:53] We were the first people that they saw.

[28:56] We had the rental car set up for, we serviced all the aircraft.

[29:00] They came from Charlotte.

[29:01] There were a few from Atlanta.

[29:02] There was a couple from Buffalo, New York.

[29:05] We were the first thing that they saw.

[29:07] So we think a new terminal of fresh terminal would do really good.

[29:11] Also, the terminal is a public use building,

[29:15] being that it is funded 80% through the Virginia Department

[29:19] of Aviation with the 20% remaining being locally.

[29:23] The building is public use for the non-flying public

[29:27] for businesses in the area, any sort of community

[29:30] organizations that want to use it.

[29:32] Church, come up and use it.

[29:36] The building is looking to be somewhere to the tune of 4,000 square feet possibly a little more.

[29:42] That's per the $175 first square foot trend that's going now through terminals.

[29:49] They're very commercial buildings, maintenance free.

[29:52] You have no roof in, you have block walls.

[29:55] So, you know, they're very maintenance free.

[29:57] So, they go to them all pretty strong.

[30:00] The way the funding structure is looking for that project right now, it's going to be somewhere to, you know, 230,000 locally for approximately 1,500,000 dollars worth of terminal building.

[30:16] The phase of the project that we're in now, we just finished and passed the environmental assessment.

[30:23] There's going to be a little drainage work that will have to be done due to the extension

[30:26] of vehicle parking and things of this nature, but nothing major because the area has already

[30:32] been disturbed where the terminal is going to go.

[30:34] It's already been flattened out and created and the ditches are already in place, so the next

[30:42] phase of that will be the engineering architecture and site prep will be how it goes.

[30:47] So they'll engineer the site and see if they need any more drainage.

[30:51] The architecture to see what the building is actually going to look like, followed by

[30:56] pressing the site for that footprint vehicle parking and things along with those loans.

[31:04] Terminals are typically a three-year project.

[31:06] This one is a little bit further than that.

[31:08] I think because of some indecisiveness as to whether the need was there and whether we

[31:17] put the terminal where we want and how we want it. So the project has kind of went up and down

[31:22] but since I've been there I've taken offloaded.

[31:28] It's one project I haven't done in an airport.

[31:31] I've worked at airports since 2000 and I haven't built the terminal building and I haven't

[31:36] extended it our own way. So once I saw this project on the Capitol approved the plan,

[31:42] I was kind of a little bit busy. But the only other project that we have, this is going to take

[31:46] up across with the next two years of everything that the airport has after that is a field

[31:51] lighting.

[31:52] The airport itself at night is dark and I was, you know, as a pilot,

[31:57] it's a little sketchy

[31:58] going in there at night.

[31:59] It's just dark.

[32:00] There's not enough lighting around the hangers, around the taxiways, it's kind of difficult

[32:05] to get around.

[32:07] A fluid of saturday, we flew all the way across the state of Virginia, my best friend

[32:10] of the night.

[32:11] And when we came back in, we had a Mac like, we have a look there to try not to put a $200,000 airplane in the ditch.

[32:19] So that's been a bring that's also a 98% funded project.

[32:23] So locally, we'll be looking at $6,000 for almost that, you know, that's all I have.

[32:32] That's all we have going on right now.

[32:34] Thanks for letting us smooth.

[32:36] So we haven't had any accidents.

[32:38] Yes.

[32:39] So does anyone have any questions?

[32:43] Mr. Bala?

[32:45] You may not be able to answer.

[32:46] They must have cleared.

[32:48] But when we get these, I guess, grants from the federal and state, yes.

[32:54] Attaches.

[32:56] What are the requirements for us?

[32:59] For the two percent and for the twenty percent that we have to pay, are there some

[33:04] strings attached to it from the feds and from the state.

[33:07] From the feds, yes, basically what you have is called the FAA Master Agreement, which

[33:16] that agreement is signed in the day that the airport is open.

[33:20] And there's really no amendments to it unless a project will see typically $2 million

[33:24] that would typically stay about the same.

[33:28] The way that most of them are worded, it changes depending on some of the stuff that you

[33:34] But it basically says, in a nutshell, okay, we're going to give the FAA is going to give the county, you know, 1.2, 1.4 million dollars.

[33:42] You have to keep the doors open for at least two years, four years, just depending on, you know, their projected time to get their money back out of the CSV.

[33:52] So there are strings attached with your larger projects.

[33:58] It's typically the way that it works is your board, the airport, or the IDA will say,

[34:02] Yes, we want to do this project. It's voted upon and then at that point is when it's given to

[34:08] Given that the county it's already here for whoever sign off on that and per that approval

[34:14] We enter into them to the FAA agreement. The state of Virginia. It's not it's not like that

[34:21] The state of Virginia for the most part

[34:24] As long as you keep the airport safe

[34:28] and operational for as long as you viscally can, there's no penalty for foregoing that.

[34:36] Typically, it's an administrative fee, and that's based on the number of airplanes that you have at the airport.

[34:43] So, across that's 54 airplanes, 53 airplanes.

[34:47] So, there'll be a fee based on that.

[34:49] What that is, I have.

[34:51] I don't know.

[34:53] Thank you.

[34:54] You're welcome.

[34:56] Anyone else?

[34:59] It was correct.

[35:00] First of all, Jared, I would like to thank you for all that you do for the airport.

[35:06] I think that you've been very aggressive, especially with respect to bringing something.

[35:12] And that's very good.

[35:15] Did you have a read somewhere or see something about safety statistics about the lighting at the airport?

[35:23] Yes.

[35:24] The lighting system that we have, it's like those old Tommy lights I used to go Christmas trees.

[35:32] Every other light has a capacitor on it, which is basically like a battery.

[35:38] So, what's happened is these things, they're just an enormous amount of electricity that it takes to keep these lights operational.

[35:46] Just because you trip the breaker doesn't mean that the lights are safe,

[35:49] because those capacitors did still quite a bit of voltage.

[35:53] And across the United States,

[35:54] they've actually killed 10 airport workers

[35:57] over the past 20, 30 years from electrocution.

[36:02] So I mean, it's not funny, but that, I mean, those lights are...

[36:05] So when I saw the system that we had, I kind of shuddered

[36:08] because the airport that I came here from,

[36:10] I did a lighting project, and we had those same lights.

[36:14] And I was actually sweeping the grass off of the base

[36:17] like when I got into one that had a week and that was my very first time being shot and being

[36:26] as smart as I am. It happened two other times when I went out to go see what's the matter

[36:31] with this thing and I grabbed it and bang them, strike two, strike three was picking the broom on.

[36:38] So yeah, that was one of the statistics on them. The main thing right now is just so hard to find

[36:46] That's what makes this project a little unique to, once they take off the lighting that we have.

[36:53] That'll go towards that $30,000 cost on our side of the project.

[36:57] They'll actually sell the parts that are usable.

[37:01] So that'll help on the $30,000 might have been.

[37:04] Thank you.

[37:05] I think the other thing that I wanted to mention,

[37:09] And I may be a lot first of them that I definitely have a passion for aviation.

[37:16] I like the fact that the possibility of internal and that's just like to say my reasons

[37:22] for that and that is we are from the rural county that we're looking at forest areas.

[37:31] And to me,

[37:35] having an airport that is workable and presentable could raise the bar as to businesses that we can bring in and what we can do and I think it's great.

[37:48] We agree, thank you.

[37:50] We agree.

[37:51] You know, like not only is it the first impression that people get when they come into the county,

[37:57] but it's also it can serve as a meeting place to court.

[38:01] He's business, if you will, for a lack of a better turn to show them what we have and what's available here in the county.

[38:10] Just the other day, there was an employee that had to be in Dominion at Lake Amin. He had to be there.

[38:18] He went from Flagstaff, Arizona to Louisiana, and he went from Flagstaff to here.

[38:26] and there was, did whatever it was he had to do over there.

[38:31] They brought him back, and two and a half hours later he was back in his bed

[38:34] and flexed that version.

[38:37] And I mean, I thought that personally was impressive, definitely.

[38:42] And I respect that, that my interest, especially as a board member,

[38:48] the tax dollars that could come in as a result of having that.

[38:52] Yes.

[38:52] And let me I like to explain that if I can't briefly how the state of Virginia, that's where the bulk of the money comes from, that may change our equipment, that is something breaks, they pay 80% of the heat pump, that the heat pump tears up, it has zero to do with an airplane, but they pay 80% of the cost, and now where do they get that money, the state of Virginia realizes that, you know, the majority of the people of this room have absolutely no, they're not going to be on an airplane, they're not going to fly them out of pilot, they're not, they have nothing to do with aviation when it comes to right now.

[39:23] So, the state of Virginia has a faucet tax on all of its aviation fields.

[39:29] So, every gallon of fuel that's sold, of aviation fuel, in the state of Virginia has a faucet tax.

[39:34] So, you start thinking about places like Dallas, North Atlantic, Richmond.

[39:38] All this money gets lumped into a great big pot.

[39:40] And then air traffic registrations for people registering their airplanes in the state.

[39:45] That gets dumped into the state pot.

[39:47] And that's the money that we use for the 80% of the terminal building,

[39:51] 80% of the takes the equipment. So in essence they're using they're charging the people who are

[39:57] flying the airplanes with maintaining its airplanes. That's where almost every bit of our

[40:02] funding comes from is from that fuel tax.

[40:07] So, you know, it alleviates a lot of the burden off

[40:10] the taxpayers who are going to have, you know, really know you used for the airport and they're

[40:16] lots so they're charging the people that she's allowed to maintain it.

[40:23] Hey, what else?

[40:27] Yeah.

[40:29] I appreciate you coming up with me.

[40:31] Enough.

[40:32] Thank you, sir.

[40:37] The next agenda item is more number.

[40:40] And I didn't see any internal committees.

[40:43] Just guys.

[40:45] I'm just like, you know, I'm just calling the youth.

[40:49] I thought you just answered that.

[40:51] But anyway, I think what I was looking at was maybe somebody's

[40:55] of these commences,

[41:00] they don't get used very much, looking at well, they are all needed,

[41:08] and they can,

[41:12] I know that at least the one that I'm all, they are a farce district, you

[41:19] know that's, we have met since I came away with this, and they haven't given me the

[41:26] So maybe some of them, at some point, may have a reason for keeping us, if we do get around

[41:38] to do it some way and foster it to you.

[41:40] But I was under the impression that some of these other committees were not being given

[41:48] very much easy.

[41:52] The Board has asked a number of questions regarding specific committees.

[41:56] If you don't share a number of the need on the period, an ad hoc or an ad hoc, or an

[42:01] ad hoc basis.

[42:06] There are some committees that have been pulled over the years, do meet less frequently

[42:11] by design.

[42:13] But if we do need to resolve any committees that are currently willing to do that,

[42:17] then we can work to request and evaluate any specific committee request.

[42:23] I guess once you have the committee established, it doesn't, I guess it's easier to leave it alone as opposed to getting rid of them and then have to do it.

[42:38] in this time. The other question that I had, Mr. Havassier asked with the listing of the

[42:46] different committees we had with the towns and places, and I noticed, Ms. Lowe, the Senator

[42:54] and Eva, to me, that there's a new, y'all working on a new project that kind of puts everything

[43:02] in one place.

[43:03] We've read now that we have two separate lessons on the website.

[43:07] One for four components and one for four committees.

[43:09] We're just going to combine that into a single table.

[43:12] We're going to list all available information.

[43:14] Sometimes, again, specific dates and times are not set for those prints

[43:18] to meet on an online basis.

[43:19] But basically, there's two lessons we'll be combined into.

[43:22] We want to do a click on each committee name.

[43:23] If you want to learn a different detail of that opportunity,

[43:26] but the committee will be the committee.

[43:28] The board number assigned to that committee.

[43:30] I'm not just assigned to that committee, and the treatments

[43:34] are going to be to see sales of that.

[43:36] Well, what's your assignment as an assignment?

[43:39] Hand some description of the different committees, but that didn't have.

[43:44] Some of them did have places, but not the time.

[43:48] That detail will still be available.

[43:50] Click the internet, each committee.

[43:53] So it will be summarized in a easier to read table with the details

[43:57] that will let them in.

[43:59] So the ones we have in the board package, the example of the arts on the board, it doesn't

[44:05] have any description there.

[44:07] Is that a description for that somewhere?

[44:10] If there are not existing descriptions, what does the work mean?

[44:14] The work is on this.

[44:15] Some of them are super big.

[44:17] There are a sign that we have things formed by as here.

[44:21] There are the name that it does.

[44:23] You know, about it's really bad.

[44:29] Something else?

[44:31] I did some email.

[44:32] I'd say in it, we could probably eliminate the labor advisory board.

[44:38] Because we do have a work on the county on the labor board at trustees.

[44:41] the pretty much in half of the duties.

[44:47] Is that the one mark that we talked about?

[44:55] That's the violation, you know.

[44:58] I've been here.

[45:00] We're getting touched with my reps on the motion's on there,

[45:05] but anyone can't probably discuss anything.

[45:09] We need to make a motion to approve the committee's, I don't know what we're doing, but we're pretty familiar with the term.

[45:16] We need to use the term to make some assignments, and we do, we do put the process of the procedure.

[45:22] Yeah, we do it for the motion.

[45:26] We need that assessment.

[45:28] I'd like the motion to approve the term as committee assignments.

[45:37] Good plan.

[45:39] I have a motion inside of the company for building assignments.

[45:43] Oh, both say, call home.

[45:46] Call, say, I guess.

[45:49] All those things.

[45:50] Mr. Trump, do you have any, is there any objections to get rid of it?

[45:55] I mean, with the topic of getting rid of these things, I mean, doing anything after somebody

[45:58] said we get rid of one.

[46:00] There's no objections to get rid of one, one will get rid of it.

[46:12] If there's specifics, then we definitely want to get rid of what's the reason for not getting rid of.

[46:24] Now we're concerned that they're all syndicated members on a war.

[46:28] So I might have opportunity to talk to my member to do something like they would have discussed with you.

[46:33] Well, I've got one. It's been over twenty-seven years.

[46:35] I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

[46:36] And I don't know if this is fun, but it will not be good.

[46:39] Yeah.

[46:39] Because she said she had lived in the last five six minutes.

[46:42] Other things that still are.

[46:46] So we're going to just look into them.

[46:49] I think we should not be like a big time.

[46:51] We'll talk about it in a few months and I'll do anything.

[46:52] Yeah, we need to.

[46:54] We need to address upon all of our community.

[46:57] But I think we need to be fair to the people that are actually appointed to that as well.

[47:03] I don't even want to bore and find out that it was done we were and the way we're trying to do it

[47:10] out.

[47:11] Just let that opportunity to get back with those people.

[47:14] So we should make that clear that we're trying to look at all of the committees and if we

[47:19] be able to bear with others then maybe we should talk to our reference and see how they

[47:24] feel.

[47:25] I'm just happy to reveal that the committees to save their or any like we discussed.

[47:31] One of being started with one of the week of trouble, deaf someone in them, we can give it a sample.

[47:37] But one of the people point to different, but some of them want to be all, maybe a little bit of a micro management going on, give it some though.

[47:45] Well, I'm this a son on the library for five years.

[47:50] And my wife has been on for twenty-some years.

[47:56] And she's the one suggested me that we could probably do it like this.

[47:59] So that's wrong.

[48:03] Well, it's not for you all.

[48:05] I don't my rep that I've had on now.

[48:08] I don't even know if she...

[48:10] She's pretty active.

[48:11] Of course, she's one of them, right?

[48:13] It would be nice to know how to get in touch with them.

[48:17] They were going to come to me.

[48:19] And as dean, I've done all front pages.

[48:22] What about read it?

[48:24] Why?

[48:27] Chair is looking for motion, then if people are going to...

[48:30] I don't want to have all this chair.

[48:32] Okay, we're just going to table that for right now.

[48:37] We'll treat that discussion.

[48:40] We'll get to the end of the time to

[48:46] get these kinds of questions about.

[48:47] Great.

[48:48] Let's read next month's agenda.

[48:52] All right. Next agenda, discussion and landfill operation.

[48:56] I'll be, Mr. Mons.

[48:58] 2.1, 3 things.

[48:59] Just like the, like the, like the, like the director of,

[49:06] But it worked to, and I budget, just put the other budget, show on what it would cost us if we ran it ourselves, what the cost ain't gonna be, and just have it in our budget discussions.

[49:18] Take the capital piece of it, put it in the capital side, and operational side.

[49:23] But just, when we have a budget discussion, just put it in the budget, see what it would cost us.

[49:27] It can't, man, that's it.

[49:30] It's about as far as police is leaving the chairman.

[49:33] We put together some preliminary information that I saw and

[49:37] I think that might be a request that's evening.

[49:38] We're having a go over this evening.

[49:40] Or we can do a kind of budget deliberations as well.

[49:42] I'll be that brought up.

[49:43] Because I don't want to board the call of law.

[49:45] We do it on the budget process.

[49:46] We can put everything else.

[49:47] And I know you got that put the thing down.

[49:49] Sure.

[49:49] But I just do it on the budget process.

[50:15] Next agenda is resolution to approve the purchase of new

[50:19] of machine equipment.

[50:22] Just here we have the registrar and members of the Electoral Board here receiving as well

[50:27] as opposed to being in 32 blessings that information is largely also contained in the

[50:32] Resolution of the Association to request their to replace aging touch screen technology

[50:39] machines, which the state is made that we are not purpose in any more with new machines that

[50:46] are more liable and prevent some of the issues that we had in last fall.

[50:50] election and that quite frankly experienced statewide. The government has the total cost of this

[50:57] replacement would be just under $150,000. The government has proposed state funding to reimburse

[51:05] localities across the state for the purchase of these machines. That of course is subject to

[51:10] the general assembly of rural staff or here to answer questions.

[51:15] Well,

[51:17] last year's General Assembly got into this topic quite a bit.

[51:22] There are a session now, or is it leading to, and if we do, go ahead and submit the 150,

[51:29] or we jeopardize and anything by doing that to it.

[51:33] Don't believe we are, but in my instance, watching stuff up to the podium.

[51:36] It's not understanding that we need to move forward with a replacement process,

[51:42] because there's a multi-month lead time

[51:44] and we would need to have a replacement of machines

[51:46] and quickly enough to be able to use them

[51:49] in this year's elections, but it did not.

[51:51] I know we have to do something,

[51:53] but I'm just concerned about the reimbursement

[51:56] right over time.

[51:59] It's my understanding, this is a short session,

[52:02] this year that we'll know about February the 12th.

[52:05] And in the Governor's Initiative,

[52:09] I would suggest that we wait to decide

[52:11] what they're going to do because if you purchase between after January 1st you're not going

[52:15] to be reimbursed.

[52:16] So I think we should, as long as we know and this resolution says pending the what's

[52:22] the general assembly does.

[52:23] So I think we'll know about February the 12th and I've been in touch with our vendor.

[52:27] And he knows, you know, I've kept him in the loop.

[52:30] He knows we're looking at new machines.

[52:32] He knows that we're going to be at the ready as soon as we know what the general assembly

[52:36] is going to do.

[52:37] Hopefully if you all approve the resolution tonight.

[52:41] It's just...

[52:42] It's long.

[52:45] Certainly, Mr. Barkin got a very tough job as well as the electric board.

[52:52] Because we want to get it right. They want to get it right.

[52:57] And somehow they get equipment placed on it.

[52:59] They have no control over it.

[53:02] I'm certainly supportive of this.

[53:04] The only thing that I ask them is,

[53:06] markets have done this before, and the board does prove this that we make sure a prior

[53:12] to that we get them around on, like for example, she brought them down in my district,

[53:17] so people could use them because we've got to work with people to get a lot of people

[53:22] a lot of people got a lot of uneasiness, all of the one that these machines are available.

[53:27] So we've got to work with the public perception of these machines, but I'm definitely

[53:33] support this eventicment process better. I'm a little revived after watching the movie

[53:41] Selma and want to tell people that so people could vote and that sometimes we take

[53:47] that voting for granted. So I'm certain I'm bored.

[53:56] You got a 30 year veteran ticket on the board and you got a 30 year veteran ticket on the board and you got a 30 year veteran ticket.

[54:03] Is it, is it?

[54:05] It's a good thing.

[54:05] I've worked a pose a number of years and I know a little bit about equipment as well.

[54:10] But in this new system is there a pale-safe mean by which the regardless of what happens with machine that's going to be somewhere you can continue.

[54:25] The voting machine that we are, there are three vendors that are certified to sell in the state of Virginia.

[54:32] The voting machine that we use for our central absentee precinct in our office is probably the one that we would go with countywide.

[54:40] And that voting machine has an emergency ballot box on it.

[54:43] So if the machine shut down and it couldn't scan ballots, people would still be able to vote in voting booths around the precinct

[54:51] and put them into that emergency bin,

[54:54] and then when the machine will serve us,

[54:56] then in operation, you could scan the balance

[55:00] into the machine at that time.

[55:03] So you'll have people balanced out, a sensitive number.

[55:06] Well, well, I mean, this is going to be a total paper-based system.

[55:09] So every voter will vote on a piece of paper.

[55:12] So every precinct will be started with 80% or 90%

[55:17] of the voters in that precinct with balance on hand.

[55:19] So voting would never really stop.

[55:23] They would just be in, say, you know,

[55:25] six, eight, ten booths around the precinct,

[55:28] Mark and Balcons, and then just walk up to the machine and scan it in.

[55:31] So as in your opinion, that if you get these machines,

[55:33] I'll be now stopping the volume.

[55:39] That's right.

[55:39] There shouldn't be.

[55:44] And then, if you're, let's share it.

[55:46] And a big clear, that the state does not find it.

[55:50] This is something that you're professional to be,

[55:53] that needs to be done regardless.

[55:55] I mean, the elections are responsible for the electoral board and they're here and I'm sure

[56:00] that they would address it.

[56:01] And we also have Jimmy's fairly here who was a chief up at Zion's FreeSync and he worked

[56:06] at he was in the trenches that day and I think they would all agree that we're at the point

[56:10] where we need to do something.

[56:13] I mean, we purchased these machines.

[56:14] We put them in operation in another four and their life expectancy was 10 years.

[56:19] So, we've been through 11 November Generals with these machines, plus primaries, town elections,

[56:26] they're stored in the odd building, they're bumped, they're banged around, they're in hot temperatures

[56:30] and cold temperatures, they're touch screen technology. And, you know, I feel like that we are on the, you know,

[56:39] we all these machines were test-voted and sealed on September the 24th. They all worked 100% accurately on September

[56:47] 24th, they were stored and deployed to our free seats on the day before the election, they

[56:52] fire them all up and they all didn't mark them.

[56:55] So, can I name it?

[56:57] Yes, I have secretary, I've signed a link with document.

[57:01] I sit with them all day as they program it, they had, they ran every machine, every possible

[57:08] way there was to vote on the ballot that was wanted to use on that machine and we have

[57:13] takes has proved that when those men led that day and I find my name to those machines were all

[57:21] working. And so you know that day was it was it was it was tough and two of our precincts

[57:27] we got down to one operating voting machine. Ms. Wilson also was one of our workers and she was

[57:32] in mineral where they had a top day and so you know you might fire all these machines up tomorrow

[57:38] and they're fine, but it's just you're taking a chance, I think. I mean, we couldn't

[57:44] we log every phone collection date. There was no way that phone rang off the hook. We couldn't

[57:48] even come close to log in and phone calls that day.

[57:52] Mr. Chairman, yes, I'm responsible. I move that we approve the resolution that's drafted.

[58:02] This gives in it as Ms. White can says that we wait for the state to fund it.

[58:10] And then it doesn't, you look at it.

[58:12] If you've worked a poll before, you know that there's not

[58:15] a good place to be when you're quick at the same time.

[58:20] It's a live expectancy for the new generation.

[58:26] I was at legislative day today, and we

[58:28] can talk a lot about voting equipment.

[58:30] And 10 years, I would say any kind of technology

[58:34] like this, 10 years is probably about maybe the most

[58:37] you're going to get out of it.

[58:39] But people speculate that these things may last longer.

[58:41] But, you know, I think any kind of technology, when you don't use it anymore, often the

[58:46] body of machines are used.

[58:47] It's truly kind of hard to tell.

[58:49] And these things are in operation in some localities, but they're all kind of still

[58:53] new.

[58:54] But I would say ten years, I would say just in the future.

[58:59] Maybe we can listen to it.

[59:00] If any other localities around us have problems, before we have problems with them, maybe

[59:05] make it part of our normal CIP budget process, before we get to a situation where we really

[59:29] I just like to see the wording, though, just a little bit different on the resolution part of it.

[59:40] This is a, it said we're proving the $150,000, which, and then it says in the event that

[59:46] the state does not find the upgrades, the source of funding would be the general fund balance.

[59:51] It's like to me that if you start off saying, if the state doesn't fund it, then we're

[59:56] proving the $150,000.

[59:58] We would have to.

[1:00:00] And we have to append to the budget in either situation. So like that, I don't have to get a thousand dollars to the expenditure pedal. It's just a matter of where the revenue comes from. It's a general on balance or initial salary.

[1:00:12] But I'm trying to get the chronological order. If the state doesn't approve it, then we approve the 150. This is saying right upfront, we're approve the 150.

[1:00:23] in the state in the bit that the state does not fund the upgrade one of that. It's just

[1:00:29] the wording in the exact right for me.

[1:00:38] I don't want to be unreasonable, you understand what I'm saying?

[1:00:41] I think the intent was to put a position to get the state funding and then the big we didn't get the state funding, then we would take care.

[1:00:48] That's what I'm saying, and these people were to somewhat better that way.

[1:00:51] I think you're saying the same thing, but that last sentence is worth it.

[1:01:06] All in, all in.

[1:01:07] All in.

[1:01:08] All in.

[1:01:09] All in, all in.

[1:01:10] Thank you, guys.

[1:01:13] Thank you.

[1:01:26] Thank you.

[1:01:27] Thank you.

[1:01:29] Thank you.

[1:01:29] Oh, thank you.

[1:01:31] Thank you.

[1:01:32] Thank you.

[1:01:32] Let's hear it.

[1:01:33] Let's hear it.

[1:01:34] Two minutes.

[1:01:35] Two minutes there.

[1:01:36] Two minutes later.

[1:01:37] You got one more action item.

[1:01:39] Well?

[1:01:39] Yeah, one more action item.

[1:01:40] We got two more.

[1:01:41] Two more.

[1:01:42] Two.

[1:01:43] Take a big wave though.

[1:01:44] All right.

[1:01:45] Well, we got public hearing and two minutes.

[1:01:47] We're going to go back.

[1:01:48] All right.

[1:01:49] All right.

[1:01:50] Hey, are you OK?

[1:01:57] Yeah.

[1:01:58] You can go.

[1:01:59] You can go now.

[1:02:00] Yeah, that's what it is.

[1:02:03] Yeah.

[1:02:03] I think it's going to be a little bit.

[1:02:12] I think it's a little bit.

[1:02:16] I think it's a little bit.

[1:02:19] Oh.

[1:02:21] Oh.

[1:02:21] It's probably a little bit.

[1:02:22] I think it might be.

[1:02:28] It might be.

[1:07:10] Yeah, with the idea of how to realize the draft and how to make tonight, and I've had a chance to read it yet.

[1:07:18] You know, it kind of basically says there's no empirical research out there.

[1:07:21] It shows whether or not it's going to be a lot of people who are going to be able to make a debate.

[1:07:27] Basically, it's a very interesting thing.

[1:07:29] There doesn't have to get to be a role.

[1:07:31] If you'd like to feel like it's going to end up being a part of the reality,

[1:07:34] The devil allowed people to do two and four years later than one of the people who put even though.

[1:07:40] Right now.

[1:07:42] And then rather, I just didn't know what they were doing.

[1:07:44] It looked like a small property.

[1:07:47] And then they got dragged.

[1:07:50] That's what I did.

[1:07:51] That's what I did.

[1:07:52] That's what I did.

[1:07:53] That's what I did.

[1:07:54] That's what I did.

[1:07:55] No, I mean, it basically says,

[1:07:59] They get right at first or two, isn't it?

[1:08:02] And if we deal with it,

[1:08:03] I'm not a client.

[1:08:04] We've got a bill in front of the car that may taint up to that problem.

[1:08:10] So they were busking for a property.

[1:08:13] No, no, no, no.

[1:08:15] There's only a real business business.

[1:08:19] They're going to bring the property.

[1:08:21] They're going to bring the property and the property.

[1:08:23] The property and the property.

[1:08:26] They're not going to bring the property.

[1:09:01] I think I'm gonna do it, I think I'm gonna do it, I think I'm gonna do it.

[1:09:04] You know what I mean?

[1:09:05] Yeah, you know, you're not exactly the same one.

[1:09:10] Yeah, yeah.

[1:09:11] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:09:12] You know, I think that's the difference.

[1:09:15] You're just a camera, no.

[1:09:16] Just a camera, no.

[1:09:18] Just a camera, no.

[1:09:18] I thought you were a camera, no.

[1:09:22] Just a camera, no.

[1:09:22] That's the camera.

[1:09:24] Eh?

[1:09:29] No, no.

[1:09:31] I think no.

[1:09:32] I think no.

[1:09:33] I think no.

[1:09:39] Yeah, I think it's a four-jep mark.

[1:09:49] I'm just being the right man, so he's a big man.

[1:09:55] That's right, that's what I mean.

[1:09:58] I thought he was a big man.

[1:10:01] But then I'll do it.

[1:10:02] Yeah.

[1:10:03] Come on.

[1:10:04] Come on.

[1:10:06] What do you want to talk about?

[1:10:07] How do you, I'm sure.

[1:10:08] I don't know.

[1:10:10] Yeah.

[1:10:11] Don't think that's what you want to do.

[1:10:12] I want to do that right now.

[1:10:14] Now here with these.

[1:10:16] He's going.

[1:10:18] I'm going to go to the public here in California.

[1:10:21] And I'm going to talk about it.

[1:10:23] Where is your place?

[1:10:30] Where's your place?

[1:10:31] Where is your place?

[1:10:34] Where is your place?

[1:10:35] Look at this guy in the office.

[1:10:36] I know.

[1:10:37] We're going to go out and walk.

[1:10:38] We're up to you and we're over there.

[1:10:47] Go to the service.

[1:10:48] Go to the service.

[1:10:54] They're not about your favourite.

[1:10:55] They're not

[1:11:03] about your favourite.

[1:11:05] You don't have to put my finger on the work, I'm gonna have to put it on the service.

[1:11:08] Did you talk about the blade?

[1:11:10] What did you call it?

[1:11:12] Okay.

[1:11:23] Did you bring it on your social services?

[1:11:24] Yes, I brought the service.

[1:11:26] Yeah.

[1:11:28] Yeah, we know where to take it.

[1:11:29] I'm not

[1:11:36] a public

[1:11:44] hair.

[1:11:46] I'm not a public hair.

[1:11:52] The rest of us took a set of a resounding,

[1:11:55] a five-minute one of all the way to the 82th St.ford.

[1:11:59] Who's handling that?

[1:12:04] Mr. Chairman of members of the Board.

[1:12:07] This is for the resounding of a parcel number 28,

[1:12:10] National Board of the portion of that.

[1:12:14] Approximately 20,000 acres in the mineral district.

[1:12:16] It is currently zone A2 and the requested zoning and C2.

[1:12:23] It's currently vacant.

[1:12:25] This property and the cover is cleaned and then it makes the area as mixed.

[1:12:31] And it is within the Lake Anna Grove area.

[1:12:36] In your packet are the propers that were submitted,

[1:12:39] which eliminate some of the more concerning uses.

[1:12:48] There was a neighborhood meeting held, DRC, Planning Commission, recommended unanimously to approve this project and if there's any questions, I'll be happy to answer that.

[1:13:11] Is there any sort of fine residential component to this at all?

[1:13:16] No, there's no.

[1:13:19] But it's not one of the things that's offered out.

[1:13:21] No, it has not been offered out.

[1:13:26] You haven't been willing to do that.

[1:13:29] The adult homes and group homes have been offered out.

[1:13:34] And they are asking for C2, not a pudder.

[1:13:37] That's

[1:13:47] also a deal.

[1:13:49] That has not been proper.

[1:13:55] That's the deal.

[1:13:56] To prevent the time.

[1:13:58] I don't understand your problem.

[1:14:00] We are changing it to commercial.

[1:14:04] It's still all out.

[1:14:05] You can use the according to this list.

[1:14:07] Same amount of time as well in the past.

[1:14:11] We'll take the preventive of the condition we use from that list.

[1:14:23] This picture.

[1:14:26] I'm looking at the page.

[1:14:27] It's going to want that packet.

[1:14:28] and talks about B.D. had reviewed it, and that my paraphrase says that they came back

[1:14:37] at the definition of determination and tell this to side of what's going to be there.

[1:14:42] But is there sufficient opportunity for them to come in and if the use changes do they

[1:14:52] still have the right to come in and look at it and make the requirements that they think

[1:14:56] There is a...

[1:15:00] Plan process, but after resuming unless something has specifically been offered, then you lose that. A lot of that right. But there is, there's still the site plan requirements and need not will have, we'll look at the site plan to review.

[1:15:24] And they were still happy to hear that from me, so that's going to be based on the use.

[1:15:35] Vita, I just want to clarify, Vita looked at what was submitted, and it was under the

[1:15:44] vehicle trips per day for resumping, so Vita said it was a low impact use, and they didn't

[1:15:52] So further than that, a traffic impact statement or assessment was not submitted with the

[1:16:00] project or full buildout potential commercial use.

[1:16:06] And so we did not wear unaware of what the impacts would be.

[1:16:13] But as Mr. Ginger said, if there's a use that's going to have an increase in traffic

[1:16:21] and VDOT does have the ability to come in and make whatever change they feel is necessary

[1:16:28] requirements.

[1:16:29] They have the ability, as much as you said, for the entrance.

[1:16:34] For off-premise types of many times you see progress that where the applicant will give money

[1:16:45] to for off-premise transportation issues that arise from the impacts of the development.

[1:16:57] I don't know what those impacts are, so, and there's not a profit that does that.

[1:17:09] It was important.

[1:17:09] I think Mr. Habitat has been shown to me and I'm starting to know here that we're going

[1:17:15] to discuss that.

[1:17:16] But people have gave me about landscaping and we don't really have landscaping.

[1:17:25] That's correct.

[1:17:29] We don't have landscap ordinance.

[1:17:32] Because we don't have a landscap ordinance, if it is not something that has been

[1:17:38] then there is not any requirement. We don't have oversight in that area. They are required

[1:17:50] to in the commercial district to have 25% of the site as landscape, but because there's

[1:17:58] no landscape ordinance that states what that is, it can be a grass area open area. There's

[1:18:07] It's just not to any requirements, but it comes to

[1:18:21] anyone else.

[1:18:24] And right in this, it's just, it says that the application indicates that the initial

[1:18:31] purpose of the rezoning is for restaurants, it was a positive, a winery, over, and that

[1:18:40] is what's contended,

[1:18:44] but they're still not

[1:18:46] profiting out any of the other uses, you'd say, too.

[1:18:50] Some of the uses have been profited out, but they have

[1:18:54] not said that they will proper that that will be the use,

[1:19:01] that are restaurant and winery or brewery and

[1:19:06] vineyard will be the useful site.

[1:19:09] That is their intention as they stated in their application, there's no profit that requires that.

[1:19:26] One of the major things that have been profited that really restrict the property to what is being intended.

[1:19:39] It's still seem like a virtual, a virtual, a virtual, most of the commercial uses are still alive, right?

[1:19:49] Yes, sir.

[1:19:49] You can give it out of the material.

[1:19:52] Yes, sir.

[1:19:53] I'm not going to spend some more time on what it brought about.

[1:19:56] But he'd go for my every commercial release.

[1:19:59] But in a hand, you can't have all the audios here.

[1:20:02] You can't have strip hall, a strip club.

[1:20:05] You can't have a debt, you know, I mean, yeah, but you can have all the repair, but you've got to clear it, just trust it now, what it will happen in that. So, it's a really going from agriculture commercial for a reason, and you want to have commercial activity.

[1:20:24] The presidential is still in the C-2.

[1:20:27] Right.

[1:20:28] The point that I think is sitting in the Senate, I quote too.

[1:20:36] Better than to get the business that is around other commercial,

[1:20:44] commercial, commercial

[1:20:44] like them, opportunities.

[1:20:47] And it would bring in.

[1:20:48] It's better than to contract with the county and as far as you said.

[1:20:54] All right.

[1:20:56] Let's play.

[1:20:57] Are the Americans going to give any sort of presentation?

[1:20:59] It was just you.

[1:21:02] Mr. Lilly.

[1:21:03] I'm fine with it.

[1:21:04] I don't like it, but what part of it not like about it is, and I'm probably going to support you.

[1:21:11] I don't like it unless you would do is that if you're going to say it's for a brewery or a vineyard

[1:21:19] and a restaurant, and that's the reason for some design and change, I think there should be conditions

[1:21:24] of a design and change, because that's what we're telling the public that you're going to do.

[1:21:29] That's the only thing you're allowed to do.

[1:21:30] If you just want to come in and say it's money-piece of land, it's in the growth area,

[1:21:33] I think it should be them commercial because I wanted to be, I can respect that team and

[1:21:37] go along with that.

[1:21:38] But I think that when we say publicly and a bunch of different meetings, it's going to

[1:21:43] be a brewery of being in a restaurant, and that should be part of the restrictions.

[1:21:50] But that's just my personal opinion.

[1:21:53] All right.

[1:21:53] It's most expensive.

[1:21:55] It's very the outcome of the year, and it's going to take a little help, and I want to

[1:21:59] take it.

[1:22:06] As Chairman, that was aboard my name as Jill Lillay on the turning of the office in the industrial park here.

[1:22:11] I was a candidate, I recognized not the applicant.

[1:22:14] M.G.K. Enterprises, L.L.C.

[1:22:21] It's kind of interesting because we started this process of, back in September of an application.

[1:22:27] We went through the neighborhood name.

[1:22:29] We went through the development review committee.

[1:22:32] We went through the planning commission.

[1:22:34] We're here tonight.

[1:22:35] And we have each step we have asked loudly, frequently, over and over and over for

[1:22:42] our input as far as the proper is going on.

[1:22:44] And we got zero.

[1:22:47] Nothing from anybody until tonight we got questions about what's in, what's out, whatever.

[1:22:54] My cameras and I sat down.

[1:22:56] We spent a long time with the matrix, we spent a long time with the definitions.

[1:23:02] We read them all carefully, try to figure out whatever some of them meant because some of them

[1:23:07] don't make them all of a sense of dance, all of them really kind of interesting.

[1:23:14] If you sit down and you go into that thing and then you start figuring out that you can

[1:23:18] actually be built here, some sort of criminal offense, if you let somebody come in there and

[1:23:23] then you let them leave and then you let them come back and some period of time, it's really

[1:23:28] interesting what's in the account code. We did the best that we could do to look at the surrounding

[1:23:36] area out there. Look at what we think would be good for that area and to eliminate stuff that

[1:23:43] we thought would not be compatible would not be accepted or acceptable to people there in the area.

[1:23:51] Again, we've gotten no assistance, no help.

[1:23:56] We've done draft profits, we've passed draft profits and rounds.

[1:24:01] Many times, we've seen that the advertising is no profit,

[1:24:05] some minute, no profits, no profits, no profits.

[1:24:08] Well, we've been asking and asking and asking.

[1:24:11] And we've got this point where we have to put an end to this meeting.

[1:24:17] And I think this was something that Mr. Havocie had also raised as a question.

[1:24:24] The whole point of having some sort of a commercial place is not to make it not appealing.

[1:24:31] But to make it appealing to people, so that they'll come down there and they'll spend money.

[1:24:37] And whether that's part of your architectural design and landscape being, it's all part of the same thing.

[1:24:43] And to say that Mr. Cavaro's work wouldn't have any work or put in some sort of

[1:24:53] vague and ambiguous sort of a proper attitude of landscaping, frankly, I think it's going

[1:24:59] to invite more chaos than it's going to have a pure, many things.

[1:25:05] We're working now, we're like, yay, I think he's someone familiar to everybody on the board.

[1:25:10] Mike is going to be looking at the traffic studies, the different things can be done out there.

[1:25:17] And it's going to do whatever's within his area of expertise.

[1:25:20] Other professional engineers are going to be engaged as far as Berlin, Berlin, and the profit.

[1:25:26] When Mike Cabros has it, the green is having an up-sale rescue on there with a vineyard,

[1:25:31] or a cell line that's made there, and maybe down the road have a brewery right now.

[1:25:38] I think the Western is drawing talks and selling them over in the valley,

[1:25:43] in some of the pieces of blue beer.

[1:25:45] There's a cash truck right there that is available.

[1:25:48] And the ground's good enough, which range good enough to do that,

[1:25:50] and something else that might be there.

[1:25:53] And I'm open to correction, but my understanding as far as the residential use

[1:25:58] in the C2 zoning is just extremely limited.

[1:26:03] And the only residents that's really available,

[1:26:06] I believe it's a vibe right, it's for a caretaker or someone who's there on the property.

[1:26:11] And I find wrong and now I'd be welcome to be corrected, but I think there is something else

[1:26:17] I think the additional use permit was mentioned earlier, but I think that there would be another step

[1:26:23] in the process, if there would be any sort of presentation used in that property.

[1:26:28] There's a lot of residential use out there now.

[1:26:31] I'm not sure where the concern comes from or what the question really would be, but I think

[1:26:41] your residential use of costability is not properly as a seat to some property in

[1:26:46] the past 11 years.

[1:26:49] Another question we're going to tell you about the entrance permit, the entrance permit,

[1:26:53] something I've sat down with, Mark Ward, again, someone who's familiar to everyone here

[1:26:59] on the board. And we've talked basically when you sit down and look at the vehicle trips

[1:27:06] per day, it's going to depend on the car. It's a factor. It's a very simple sort of

[1:27:12] form, but there's a book that says whatever the use is. This is how many trips you can

[1:27:17] inspect for this particular use from restaurants and has to choose a square footage. Where

[1:27:23] you have entrance remits where you have acceleration lanes, turn lanes, other things that

[1:27:29] and come in there. And so a lot of that is going to depend on what speed limit is out there.

[1:27:39] I'm personally a very loud and continuous advocate for dropped in the speed limit on two

[1:27:44] away from Dickinson's to the bridge, and 522 from Jim to Lake Canada down in the contrary,

[1:27:50] pretty bridge. If you haven't been in that area very much, I recommend that you start

[1:27:56] up to the trash up there and if you go through that recycling center and then come on out,

[1:28:02] whichever direction you're going to go, you're going to find that it's a hold your breath,

[1:28:06] quite not going to experience to pull out there on the 542 at any time of the day when

[1:28:10] that time is open. One day, I think we're going to see that, I think we've all heard recently

[1:28:15] about the advocacy for some sort of traffic control by its their significance.

[1:28:25] There's

[1:28:26] north of Dimmins, and that both sides of the road is going to be developed.

[1:28:32] They've been sized up to a commercial property.

[1:28:34] We'll subdivide.

[1:28:35] We'll wonder, and that's been a role in that area.

[1:28:40] There's more more traffic, and right now the traffic out there on two of the way the

[1:28:45] thickness of the bridge is just kind of scary.

[1:28:49] The whole thing is in there, and that, again, by the time a restaurant is putting

[1:28:56] place and this has done all those traffic studies have done. I don't think it'd be a bad thing

[1:29:01] if we see a whole lot of deceleration, a whole lot of dropping in the speed limit. And I think it might

[1:29:07] be something that this board should be working on as far as safety for some of the recent county citizens.

[1:29:13] So you don't have to talk with very many recipes about people to learn how many accidents have been

[1:29:19] out there and how many problems have been out there. We can all think probably enough people

[1:29:26] white on hand that have been killed around two or eight between Dickinson's and the bridge to

[1:29:31] I had.

[1:29:33] I'm on my soul box about that, and that's all about it.

[1:29:36] Anyway, I really don't have too much else to have.

[1:29:39] Other than the fact that the properties of God are things we work very hard on, and welcome

[1:29:45] any other suggestions, but I don't think the practical level has a level of 1.5 hour to

[1:29:53] it down and try and do consideration to something to just throw that in right now.

[1:30:00] I'm sorry. Go ahead, aye, is there any questions that you've got for?

[1:30:05] With all degrees back.

[1:30:08] I don't appreciate the fact that you're saying we've had all of this time to look at the proper, because in reality, we just received our package last week.

[1:30:18] And on November the 14th, you received the letter saying that the applicant is to work with our staff

[1:30:28] on to clarify the purpose of the December 2011 planning commission meeting.

[1:30:35] But that doesn't mean that those came to us.

[1:30:39] So I believe that we do have the right.

[1:30:41] I will certainly certainly apologize, and if we can address them by and say we've been asked for a long time for help, no witness.

[1:30:52] Can you say that you did work with staff too?

[1:30:55] We've asked for their questions and suggestions.

[1:31:02] I've asked for forgiveness for every being presented as a witness.

[1:31:07] Well, let's move on with the public area and we'll get this to come back with a question

[1:31:16] back for that.

[1:31:18] Mr. Chairman, a state-corrected about the residential, there are special provisions for

[1:31:25] residential in C2 and in those special provisions it says that dwellings in the course of

[1:31:32] districts are limited to owners of lots or parcences and districts as well as the employees

[1:31:37] Thank you.

[1:31:40] All right.

[1:31:41] Let's all come up.

[1:31:42] All right.

[1:31:43] Yeah.

[1:31:43] One patient is speaking.

[1:31:44] I think that against this, uh, rezone and come to the bottom of the state's name, address.

[1:31:51] And I have one card, but I understand that that's not for this.

[1:31:59] All right.

[1:32:02] Good evening, Mr. Chairman.

[1:32:03] Members of the board.

[1:32:04] My name is James Viper.

[1:32:06] I live on a travel road in Old District.

[1:32:09] Uh, this is the fourth meeting.

[1:32:10] I attended, and basically I came here, expecting to hear that it was accepted as a restaurant

[1:32:19] which it seems to have been growing, and I heard about the possible brewery and the vineyards,

[1:32:28] and even the e-general men showed me a kind of a stick drawing at the last planning meeting.

[1:32:35] that was the furthest we had gotten.

[1:32:38] So I'm a kind of surprised that it's still up for a graph that way.

[1:32:44] I'm here to ask a question that seems to be a bit of a reason.

[1:32:49] I do not understand what the problem or the question

[1:32:54] with V-doddans wanted to just verify this

[1:32:58] because if it's going to be a business,

[1:33:02] I understood that the main access was going to be on 522 and there might be a delivery

[1:33:09] entrance for for 623. I don't know what what the story would be that is. Does this mean

[1:33:16] it's going to change that whatever business goes in there as well as or 623. It's 522

[1:33:24] off the table possibly yes no maybe so that's what I would like to appreciate an answer

[1:33:31] from that war. Does that go on forever?

[1:33:40] One hour, three to speak. Not called for any problems.

[1:33:53] Mr. General, I can address that to read out the sympathy question that I think will go a bit more.

[1:33:58] that one question?

[1:34:08] With respect to that one question about the entrance, nothing has changed.

[1:34:15] The entrance and what's going to be required to put in the entrance basically coming

[1:34:20] south on 5, 22 is going to require what taper and a 200 foot deceleration lane.

[1:34:27] And basically going north it would be the same kind of thing, whether there is a

[1:34:32] The turn lane required is going to be dependent on the size and the facility against the speed limit on the road.

[1:34:41] The site distances are definitely there.

[1:34:43] Set that with Mark Wood and the site distances available far exceed what's required for right now.

[1:34:50] It's about 55 mile per hour speed limit.

[1:34:54] And the curve on the road and everything is there.

[1:34:57] There's no problem having an entrance there.

[1:34:59] The only question is what's going to be needed as far as any development in there, and that is going to be dictated by the size of the restaurant and the speed limit on the road, the combination of those two, because all of the numbers change each time you change one of those factors.

[1:35:20] So I'm going to point against it.

[1:35:23] I'm lost by Mr. Lutter before you sit down. Can we ask another question?

[1:35:28] I'm sorry.

[1:35:29] I'll probably give you an answer.

[1:35:31] All right.

[1:35:34] If I'm reading this correctly, industrial was left in there.

[1:35:46] I can show you the copy I have if you want to.

[1:35:54] It's a last page in the conference just a minute that we have.

[1:36:07] All of those, those three that are out there are among those that do not be permitted.

[1:36:14] What?

[1:36:14] You go back up one page.

[1:36:16] On the cross-edges number two, parent two is as a following uses defined by a section A6.2 that we

[1:36:23] just can't decode.

[1:36:24] We'll not be permitted.

[1:36:26] And then we've got the ones broken down the way that are the code.

[1:36:29] residential businesses will not be permitted, the cynics that will not be commercial that

[1:36:33] will not be industrial that will not be miscellaneous that will not be permitted.

[1:36:38] The permitted pieces are about three pages before that page.

[1:36:42] Yeah, and the attachment had the others for stricken, but that one was not.

[1:36:45] Don't you?

[1:36:49] Yes, sir.

[1:36:49] This is Allison.

[1:36:50] Can you clarify about the little more of you gave us the residential, again, root the

[1:37:00] resistance

[1:37:00] you can't only do residential development, if it is the owner of the property, they can have their residence.

[1:37:10] So you can sell lots in there, and people are living in those houses.

[1:37:16] No, just having the owner of the property or the employees there.

[1:37:24] If I have a subdivision, what my God wants are?

[1:37:26] So if I have the property, could I build a house on it?

[1:37:31] Yes, so you could sell lots and some I could buy a house to build a house.

[1:37:39] No

[1:37:41] Not a good zone commercial

[1:37:45] But you couldn't sit the buy to sell a lot. That's I think I

[1:37:53] Limited to the owner living there. So I don't understand you keep saying that if you're down there

[1:37:58] You can build a house, so I bought a piece of land inside of

[1:38:02] That 25 acres and I was the owner could have built a house

[1:38:09] You can get back to me later if you'd like to listen to

[1:38:15] that.

[1:38:15] I just need to look up there.

[1:38:16] Excuse me, what was Dick's concern on landscaping?

[1:38:20] Is that something that you mentioned your back door back yard?

[1:38:23] Is that something you want to explore?

[1:38:25] I just

[1:38:31] have to look at that area that has no landscaping.

[1:38:36] And it's certainly not the most attractive.

[1:38:38] They're not one that I would like to be represented

[1:38:40] of our county, our district, or the lake, and that is just what I was looking at trying

[1:38:48] to protect.

[1:38:50] And, you know, I noticed in the memo from our staff, December 29th, it says that the applicant

[1:39:00] might consider additional proper, proper, that might help mitigate character, et cetera.

[1:39:06] But that's just something that has come up with other leg meetings as well as the characters that we want to present.

[1:39:20] Tim and Papel.

[1:39:21] I can rest at precise point because I know exactly what you're talking about.

[1:39:27] I can do it from here if you want.

[1:39:29] What do you mean exactly what we're talking about?

[1:39:31] I spoke with Mr. Habesing.

[1:39:33] I mean, I just, we, he, he, I mean, every, every commercial reason I can think of, and the reason

[1:39:40] past that we've done, there's been some sort of different vegetative buffer that's specified

[1:39:47] and spelled out exactly what it's going to be, whether it's ever green, it's a certain high

[1:39:51] cost.

[1:39:51] I think it's going to be, whether you can, I think we did it for a fault burn, when I, we

[1:39:55] like any, I think we've done it for pretty much everybody, but they've all been different,

[1:40:01] I don't know if you're speaking to what his specific desires were for this project.

[1:40:05] It's a different concern for us if this would not look like the weird area of the nitrackin'

[1:40:11] with a killer foot.

[1:40:12] I cut it.

[1:40:16] Whatever you want to have, you want to characterize it.

[1:40:19] And I think we may say we can profit that they will not.

[1:40:23] I think what makes it nervous is that, you know, you've got some profit out of a lot of stuff,

[1:40:28] But there's nothing to say that once the resounding gets completed,

[1:40:32] it's got no propers in there stating a vegetative blocker that she does.

[1:40:37] Can Valley up in two weeks and decide to sell it because somebody needs some money.

[1:40:41] Somebody else buys it, wants to open up.

[1:40:44] The blocker's only required to be extended.

[1:40:46] The block state should probably come to size and the count of code requires a blocker between commercial and also has a setback.

[1:40:55] 50 votes at that, where if you have the commercial up against the agricultural property

[1:41:02] and the business specified that there would be a growth risk again there.

[1:41:08] But what we're talking about is that we certainly can offer some sort of development

[1:41:13] because what now is growing on and the plan is to leave growing on and finding out the edge of it.

[1:41:20] They just go on and find a very complex process.

[1:41:23] This is going to be harvested in some form.

[1:41:26] Certain day to some degree, those clients will be wiped out

[1:41:31] to put in whatever landscape you want to put in.

[1:41:35] Working in New York, winter and winter, and things.

[1:41:38] And this is there.

[1:41:39] Right now, the passion that has that point,

[1:41:43] where they're not rolling up to bringing the cash,

[1:41:45] but then rolling up the cash, if you want to.

[1:41:50] I mean, if you want to, you know, it's in your district side, you know, deferred to you, but I'm not, I don't, I don't have any interest in setting up here in designing a landscape buffer.

[1:42:01] If you want to let staff do it or do whatever you need.

[1:42:03] One of that, my question is, I don't know how many of you have questions that you feel that might be worth

[1:42:14] to make sure you get this ironed out, or are you ready?

[1:42:20] I'd like to make a cup from this book as a realist.

[1:42:23] First of all, landscape.

[1:42:25] We talked about landscape for view committees a lot.

[1:42:29] In the last ten years, so we've always liked it not to go quite that far.

[1:42:33] But at the same time, in reviews, if there were suggestions,

[1:42:37] is that Jesus was with the development work with us?

[1:42:41] So, I think you're on the forester, not going quite all the way to

[1:42:45] landscape review committee, but trying to get some something done at that.

[1:42:49] The other question I have, maybe I'll speak in answer.

[1:42:52] But I've even come to application process that the purpose of this

[1:42:55] rezoning has been stated.

[1:42:57] It's sort of all this property.

[1:43:00] I know all this stuff.

[1:43:01] Can't we just base the rezoning on purpose of what they're asking for?

[1:43:05] I

[1:43:09] mean, they're saying that this bit used is a restaurant with cost for use of the lottery and or glory.

[1:43:16] Can't just approve it based on how they're saying they're going to use.

[1:43:19] I don't believe that because they haven't offered that you have no assurance unless they've offered that that will be the use.

[1:43:28] That has not been proper, and it's such a material limitation given on what has been

[1:43:36] struck and out, to strike out basically everything else except for their proposed use.

[1:43:40] That's so material, I think you have to re-advertise and have another point.

[1:43:44] I'm meeting a whole application for up again.

[1:43:45] There's a thing that purpose, it's just stated again in the 90s, so whether that's not

[1:43:49] what the proper is or I think it's, I would be concerned that I wouldn't go there.

[1:43:55] I think state has been a state of permissaser, and I don't know this, because I don't think you guys

[1:44:01] probably don't do it, but it's more of a service than a business label, which is.

[1:44:06] If we say, we're not the effective of a private.

[1:44:09] If we're saying we're zoney based on it, it's not good service.

[1:44:18] Yeah, just a question.

[1:44:22] We don't always have a purpose on the application that ties it down specifically.

[1:44:26] what I keep hearing here is a specific use.

[1:44:30] I look at the propers and that's what tells me what is allowed in what's known.

[1:44:37] And when I look at the propers, I see a parcel that can be 25 acres and have a lot more square footage of commercial use.

[1:44:49] It is in the mixed use growth area.

[1:44:54] And so, why can't you proper out everything but what's there about disaster form?

[1:45:00] I have seen that before, and that is the way to ensure that I have asked the applicant, and they have said, no, that they, that restricts them too much.

[1:45:14] So he didn't back into the speculation issue.

[1:45:26] I don't see where in industrial,

[1:45:29] some of them are not reading something.

[1:45:30] I don't see them in industrial.

[1:45:32] But where was it taken in there?

[1:45:35] Some I said industrial was not left in there.

[1:45:38] Did you look at them?

[1:45:42] I may be just overlooking.

[1:45:44] it's...

[1:45:44] I think it's the same one.

[1:45:46] General permur permute of uses it says

[1:45:49] number two.

[1:45:50] I'm very lucky that the program is going to be called,

[1:45:53] but it has industrial end here.

[1:45:57] It uses a allow.

[1:45:59] I'm going to pacify 35 and it doesn't appear to me

[1:46:02] that industrial is sticking out.

[1:46:04] Is that the normal thing?

[1:46:05] That's where I'm looking at.

[1:46:06] And that is something that I prepared

[1:46:09] to make it easier for you to see what was stricken.

[1:46:12] So where's the one they brought for us that that were submitted?

[1:46:19] Yeah.

[1:46:19] They are on the page.

[1:46:27] Is that not 39?

[1:46:29] 38.

[1:46:30] I

[1:46:33] don't know.

[1:46:35] Yes.

[1:46:38] 39.

[1:46:39] Open packet.

[1:46:41] And in industrial.

[1:46:43] The industrial uses that have been removed are railroad facility transfer station.

[1:46:49] We're housing distribution.

[1:46:50] We do have an industrial use.

[1:46:56] But you still have some industrial issues.

[1:46:59] Yeah, that's correct.

[1:46:59] We have a use that.

[1:47:01] The definition, the name of the name of the use that is called industrial.

[1:47:07] So you could have, they could have industrial types of activities in there.

[1:47:13] That's correct.

[1:47:19] But some will be industrial use.

[1:47:25] No,

[1:47:37] I don't know.

[1:47:38] The one in mental, I think it's not.

[1:47:40] I think it's good.

[1:47:42] It's not.

[1:47:43] I don't think in that one.

[1:47:45] It's not.

[1:47:45] I see a role in the law of that.

[1:47:53] It's really not a good investment.

[1:48:10] Great.

[1:48:11] I'm going to follow the discussion.

[1:48:12] Either way you don't go with it.

[1:48:14] But you just share with you these.

[1:48:17] All the other public hearings and statements.

[1:48:20] Just because you don't say what is a scene in the beginning.

[1:48:22] And it appears that it has requirements,

[1:48:25] which was just in the second thing,

[1:48:27] and we're beginning to have a few good subdivision

[1:48:29] to leave the advertising, and that's what we're supposed to do.

[1:48:31] So we can, we can, that would be,

[1:48:34] that would be if the proppers are materialy changed.

[1:48:37] Yes, the amount they just shook their head,

[1:48:39] I don't think they'd agree to do that anyway, so I don't know.

[1:48:42] We follow the proper care, so that's done.

[1:48:46] It's very, we won't take it.

[1:48:56] So if the applicant wanted to make another profit, an example, take it in industrial, capital

[1:49:08] lessons, so why would it have to have another profit here?

[1:49:14] If it's a material change to the profit, it would have to be advertised to be.

[1:49:22] If it's material change, that's normal.

[1:49:24] If it's a minor thing that you clarify, something that's already been profit, it probably would not.

[1:49:30] For example, like the vegetative buffer to clarify that probably does not need to go on for it.

[1:49:36] But if he's given up something, an example, an applicant has given up something, that's going to be beneficial in a lot of people's minds to everybody.

[1:49:48] Why would it have to be changed? Why would it have to be rare times?

[1:49:51] I can understand if we're going to make it more.

[1:49:54] If we wanted to have something that was great, I would have more latitude than half, but you're not asking,

[1:50:00] The discussion is not bad, is it the last time?

[1:50:05] You're the attorney, I'm not, yeah.

[1:50:16] The state code provides that if the border requests material changes to the

[1:50:24] Prophors, it will need to go to another.

[1:50:30] not that you ask him, if you have discussion in these says, okay, it's my best interest

[1:50:39] of that.

[1:50:40] Is that caused by some material change that we're requesting?

[1:50:45] I think it would depend on the terms.

[1:51:09] You have something to say.

[1:51:18] No, some mill is not used that is in...

[1:51:23] Some mill is used in the study.

[1:51:26] I don't find it in the...

[1:51:37] I then refer to the term industrial, which would cover a sawmill in a more general way.

[1:51:49] So

[1:51:52] I need to, I can't give you an answer on sawmill.

[1:51:57] If you struck everything except with the answer before you don't have that right.

[1:52:01] That's correct.

[1:52:04] And the applicant has also said that they would work with us with staff on the landscaping

[1:52:15] And

[1:52:17] so we can certainly go back and go and work on that as soon as well.

[1:52:28] The friendly friend's got some, it felt terrible and full-motion to go away now.

[1:52:38] So we can communicate with the customers.

[1:52:46] You may be able to type a little bit or move up.

[1:52:52] I always just type, look, do we figure out what to do?

[1:52:55] Give me a dush or a lot of you can add in the landscape buffer.

[1:53:00] Okay, first of all, are there any time constraints if we were to table or that would be effective?

[1:53:13] No, other than these data goes by as if it's not just that done.

[1:53:19] All right.

[1:53:27] I would prefer it to table this and to our next meeting and to have some more answers.

[1:53:37] I have a motion to table it and to have some.

[1:53:44] segment discussion, the concerns that have about the vegetation can be tin-kill with

[1:53:57] satellite, right?

[1:54:01] If we don't have a proper that states exactly what their intent is for the landscaping,

[1:54:09] then whatever they offer us at site plan is what we would have to accept.

[1:54:15] So we couldn't dress it promise.

[1:54:18] That's correct.

[1:54:26] That's the only thing that I'm concerned about.

[1:54:28] It all that we got.

[1:54:30] You know, I think we've all had conversations before.

[1:54:32] We want a big land rights activist for the most part of the jersey.

[1:54:38] I'd be able to do what you want to on your piece of land.

[1:54:40] But I think we need to be kind of as a major thoroughfares through Louise Accounting.

[1:54:46] And in our designated growth areas, in a way they can look in a lot of times

[1:54:49] get applicants that I'm completely confident like now that are going to do

[1:54:54] things the right way I'm going to do a good job but I guess I don't know

[1:54:58] whether there's nothing this is that the applicant is applying for what he's

[1:55:03] going to be the one who owns it when something happens there

[1:55:10] I'll do it for sure

[1:55:14] question the question from the legal person if

[1:55:22] the board worked to act tonight

[1:55:23] granted this rezoning. If the applicant here did not purchase it and the property went back

[1:55:35] to the company, the holding company, would the rezoning go back to the holding company as well?

[1:55:42] The rezoning would be complete.

[1:55:48] So if you rezoned the property, it could be sold to

[1:55:51] third party tomorrow.

[1:55:56] You've closed on the purchase.

[1:56:04] Right. Right now, I have a motion of

[1:56:07] people to tag with it and I have a sign. Yes, call it questions.

[1:56:19] All those things they have

[1:56:24] to say

[1:56:26] all those things.

[1:56:30] No.

[1:56:30] I will again.

[1:56:32] Fath to?

[1:56:33] No.

[1:56:33] Four to four to take.

[1:56:36] We think we, we, we, we take what's in that.

[1:56:40] Not much of this is a, you know,

[1:56:44] if the applicant can come forward and say I'm going to do actually.

[1:56:48] It says that's has to have another public hearing.

[1:56:50] If you got to do this, and it's just precious and like that.

[1:56:54] I mean, it's going to go, it's going to be table, tell that takes place on it, and

[1:56:58] the mission is going to be published.

[1:57:00] Well, at this point, it's just table until our next meeting, my fellow, the discussion,

[1:57:06] and we're not talking about the most public care fair.

[1:57:09] Right, not at the same.

[1:57:10] But if it doesn't make any changes, it just changes material, then it's going to be published.

[1:57:16] I mean, if it has to do with

[1:57:22] buffering or something like that, it doesn't have

[1:57:25] It's a difficult change.

[1:57:29] I think we wouldn't have to go back to the public right now.

[1:57:33] No, no, no, no more.

[1:57:33] That's where you might hear about a different thing.

[1:57:35] No, no.

[1:57:38] So this chair is to be sure I had a straight.

[1:57:40] We're instructed to work out the shaman.

[1:57:44] In material details, such as, for intentionated buffering, et cetera,

[1:57:50] with the applicant.

[1:57:51] But not to materialize the limit.

[1:57:53] And the proper standpoint, the basis.

[1:57:56] But what we can understand is that we can have discussions and see what comes out of it.

[1:58:04] And if they're not, but significant, the terrible changes, then you won't have to do it.

[1:58:11] They didn't achieve the following case.

[1:58:13] Right, sir.

[1:58:14] I thought we wanted to take out the industrial.

[1:58:19] Can you take it in?

[1:58:20] Mr.

[1:58:21] Sir, can you take it in?

[1:58:22] Can you just work with Ms. Corn and then sit in her district and talk to y'all to get it figured out and tell us?

[1:58:30] Yes, that's work. Yeah, I need to make sure that all of this corn and work will stay up and then y'all will send us an email.

[1:58:38] Let's know what you're going to do with whether we're going to have another public area, whether we're going to do it or not.

[1:58:42] Mr. Chairman, I'd like to thank you for inviting the industrial issue now.

[1:58:50] If the issue is about industrial and residential.

[1:58:55] I believe one of the board members stated this correctly that those are the categories that

[1:59:01] we're talking about.

[1:59:02] The industrial uses that are allowed and have not been offered out by the applicant are

[1:59:09] railroad facility, transfer station and transfer station period.

[1:59:15] Those are the uses that fall into the industrial classification.

[1:59:22] This is a resounding two commercial.

[1:59:28] If you look at page 35, maybe this will help clarify it.

[1:59:33] If you look at page 35 of this chart and you look at halfway down,

[1:59:40] and it says permitted uses with conditional use permit as an example.

[1:59:44] Where it says residential, that is the category of uses.

[1:59:51] So an accessory partment is what the use of Civic is the next category of use.

[2:00:00] Which would be public assembly. They've profit out of sheltered and they have utility service. Commercial is the next category and they've profit out construction yard, entertainment establishments, halfway house shooting range, adult store, transportation terminal, truck terminal. Industrial is the next classification of users. And they have not profit out. So they would be allowed to have a railroad facility.

[2:00:27] And what happens if you get a war that our proffers are right here and those are proffers

[2:00:33] and out in the proffers of recent minutes.

[2:00:36] And what happens between the proffers in Europe or package and what we submitted, I can't speak to.

[2:00:43] But how do you plan to give you a copy of the proffers of recent seconds?

[2:00:47] We've got on page 3839, it's in the following.

[2:00:49] You see, as an NFL infection 82 there, we lose kind of case.

[2:00:52] We're not being permitted.

[2:00:53] Under that, it says subsection B, where I wrote facility transfer station, where housing is distribution.

[2:01:02] It's things that will not be allowed.

[2:01:08] Oh, I'm back to the comments.

[2:01:10] I hear every talk a little bit about landscaping, and then that went into the buffer,

[2:01:15] or a buffer doesn't necessarily tell me the same thing in landscaping.

[2:01:21] I'm going to say we want to go in there.

[2:01:25] I'd say it's table to the next meeting we can have further discussion.

[2:01:32] I'll start off with Mr. Greenland asked questions about who we were talking about, so I was trying to get my opinion.

[2:01:37] Yes, that's fine.

[2:01:38] I'm going to be working with that on your interview with Greenland at a question to you as soon as possible.

[2:01:48] They come up with like to re-bought this by next week.

[2:01:50] And I also mischievous.

[2:01:52] Think being an applicant's best interest is top of you too.

[2:01:55] What?

[2:01:57] I have a conversation.

[2:01:58] So we've got to think of that as a matter.

[2:02:01] Let's put it in the middle of it.

[2:02:05] It's moved on with administrative.

[2:02:07] Well, do you want to?

[2:02:09] I don't know.

[2:02:11] You want to go to time, listen to me.

[2:02:12] I don't know if we may be able to talk to members.

[2:02:17] Commit in the report.

[2:02:19] I think we need to do that.

[2:02:20] Over here you are, let's get over that.

[2:02:25] All right, we'll see you in the mess.

[2:02:27] Our state is a valid place of playground.

[2:02:30] You can talk about it.

[2:02:32] Yes, I'm sure this is a game engineering,

[2:02:37] Solar Studies, et cetera.

[2:02:38] So I've shared it with the value of the potential properties

[2:02:40] for the ADA, which is important.

[2:02:42] This is just requesting the boards of approval

[2:02:44] to move forward in some of those studies.

[2:02:51] Through a group check.

[2:02:56] Don't we get the same thing in my ask media saying

[2:02:58] And the study, the particular issue, we were just putting a price tag with the potential amount.

[2:03:05] I just thought we were just understanding where it was going to be.

[2:03:10] I would,

[2:03:14] you question, I have to explain what came up with the plan information.

[2:03:17] That is what the overall impact of this may be for the Canada's hold from the services that may be required.

[2:03:28] but anyway, it looks as though we don't have that and it's to me it's, I felt like we should

[2:03:35] have that before we fall into this thing.

[2:03:37] It's a good service to talk about matured.

[2:03:39] And that would be when, at the Planck Mission I would talk about this, it's going to be certainly

[2:03:48] and it seems to be a really great thing to bring in, but it also was discussed about bringing

[2:03:58] and people may move here for the benefit of the, to use the support in what had, and the

[2:04:07] question came up is to what, what services may be required when people move here that

[2:04:16] utilized as part of it.

[2:04:18] I can't believe in the Donald Trump 21st century that people still think like that.

[2:04:24] I mean, that is absurd to say because somebody got a physical challenge that they're going to move there, or whatever we got people even, they're like, it's got to be crazy.

[2:04:38] I suspect I disagree with Mr. Barnes.

[2:04:41] The last month we talked about an over-representation of people in free and reduced

[2:04:45] much.

[2:04:46] If we look at it, we said, over crowded in the jails and there's something different here.

[2:04:51] And I think the question was, can we look, this is objectively, look at it.

[2:04:55] Can we look to see if it does bring or does it in change it in and all?

[2:05:00] We had schools just recently had a dish where required additional spending to help to educate kids in a specific area.

[2:05:10] You know, I'm saying, you guys, you guys, do the backwards, as you can be living in a bubble, I cannot believe that the discussions.

[2:05:20] I'm a little bit, I cannot believe the discussion of a adapted park relates to having adapted

[2:05:28] people, move it to use, and then adapt the park, that's going to cost tax rather

[2:05:32] more.

[2:05:33] That is crazy.

[2:05:34] That's like saying, for example, we have people that come and use other facilities that

[2:05:39] we've been far more money, or educate kids than we do talking about adapt the park.

[2:05:44] I mean, that's a discriminatory.

[2:05:45] to even think like that in the script of the story, and I was in it. I'm just going to say it.

[2:05:50] And who was in, I was telling him, saying thank you. That's how I see it in the brain.

[2:05:53] His band of kids, he had gone causes more money. Or, or bring the end of the race, that's crazy.

[2:05:59] Did we hear a couple of months ago where it says, in human services that we apparently attract people?

[2:06:05] I'm Mr. Barry, I'm in this conversation, but I'm telling people, pick it on four people.

[2:06:10] It said the poor people called love problem or people that visit the

[2:06:14] channels or hand account calls more problem.

[2:06:16] I mean this is like seeing and you know a person that helped you out

[2:06:20] whole the call, I mean that's crazy.

[2:06:23] That is, I can't believe.

[2:06:25] When you talk about poor people, you research my family.

[2:06:28] And you can find it.

[2:06:29] Do you want to go for more?

[2:06:30] I do.

[2:06:30] I don't believe.

[2:06:31] Yeah, that's good.

[2:06:32] That's good.

[2:06:33] That's good.

[2:06:34] I think that any of these guys here's a title there.

[2:06:38] when you don't get any answers, any questions they want, and I think everybody's the type

[2:06:43] of whoever they want was born to aim is to buy it, but to answer your questions, or

[2:06:48] go outside, everybody feels about those few questions.

[2:06:52] I think this is not what to get that out of.

[2:06:56] These parks don't exist.

[2:06:58] There's not one that's been built, that's 100% all inclusive,

[2:07:05] the design has changed from the

[2:07:07] and we started talking about the grant even until now.

[2:07:10] I'm exactly how it's going to be.

[2:07:11] It's something that's ever evolving.

[2:07:13] So if you can't, there's no data to be had to figure out

[2:07:18] whether an all-inclusive part would bring folks to the community

[2:07:21] who needed an all-inclusive part,

[2:07:23] because there's not such thing anywhere to look at.

[2:07:28] All this, Jack.

[2:07:29] I think we have expressed concerns in the past

[2:07:31] about the fact we've got a big percentage of folks

[2:07:34] in the regional jail, a set of set of set of set of set of,

[2:07:37] I've heard nobody come up with data saying why, and this is part of another one of those

[2:07:42] case.

[2:07:42] I don't think that exists.

[2:07:44] We can make assumptions, but believe me, we could really come up data for this issue.

[2:07:52] We sure there will be a bit of a comment that if I would get more people in jail at this

[2:07:55] county.

[2:07:55] We can't do that.

[2:08:03] I have a motion in a second and I have a whole question now, all of the things that I have.

[2:08:09] All right.

[2:08:10] All four things.

[2:08:15] That one, sir.

[2:08:26] Next, again, I'm supporting the display of nice model and done with trust.

[2:08:31] So a little second?

[2:08:33] I'll tell you.

[2:08:36] I'll tell you.

[2:08:39] I'll tell you.

[2:08:40] fifth of whereas in this resolution it says whereas the board desires to display this

[2:08:46] patriotic motive and public meeting room as a way to solemnize public occasions and express

[2:08:53] confidence in our society.

[2:08:58] When that hill is not me. We love God.

[2:09:02] Now I mean we've got all the other things to say that but that I don't see where that

[2:09:06] weren't to me it's just it's hard to find what that word is.

[2:09:11] I don't think that Mr. Ginger is completely offended and entitled to have these resolutions

[2:09:17] that he's taken a check of rejection with too.

[2:09:22] We weren't in any way that he wants him to, I think they know what's to, and God, we trust

[2:09:28] put up on the wall.

[2:09:29] Well, that's not, that's not taking away that objective, so that's where it is.

[2:09:35] Why's it needed to be there?

[2:09:36] I think this is the last time that resolution will ever be around.

[2:09:41] You're still sick of having it.

[2:09:43] Yeah, and you know, it's

[2:09:48] all those effects, yeah.

[2:09:50] Yeah.

[2:09:51] I'll post it.

[2:09:55] I'm not a person.

[2:09:56] I'm not a person in the market, but you look at that statement.

[2:09:58] That's what makes money to be where it means after the meeting.

[2:10:03] I'll take it.

[2:10:04] I'll take it.

[2:10:05] Hey, no matter what, Paul.

[2:10:10] We've got a...

[2:10:12] I'll go this time.

[2:10:14] Yes, sir.

[2:10:15] Thank you.

[2:10:18] The jail authority has formed the finance committee.

[2:10:23] The finance committee is going to be two county administrators.

[2:10:28] We have the county minister for the county. It spends the most.

[2:10:31] We got the county minister for the county. It spends at least two.

[2:10:35] Myself.

[2:10:36] And I've boarded a city advisory member from Cleveland County.

[2:10:40] Along with Glenn.

[2:10:41] I owe the superintendent Teresa of the finance director of the jail.

[2:10:45] we're going to be meeting to review the Jail's budget to see what we can do to lessen the

[2:10:51] impact on the localities.

[2:10:56] A few of the options we're going to look at just to give you guys a heads up or now I'll

[2:11:02] come back with a presentation and tell you probably before you meet with the authority but

[2:11:06] the Jail's got it.

[2:11:07] We're going to try to do some reduction in staffing.

[2:11:12] We might get rid of the road gain for a while so we wouldn't be getting the streets, streets,

[2:11:17] plenty of more, so we could use those two deputies inside of the jail.

[2:11:21] We also might look at using some of the jail's fund balance and reserve on this in order

[2:11:28] to offset the initial cost of localities, keeping in mind that eventually it would take

[2:11:34] back up to what it's projected to be now or something close to it, but at least we could

[2:11:40] push it all for a while.

[2:11:41] but when I have some more information to share, I will be happy to share it and I apologize

[2:11:48] and I don't have a lot of details for you, but when we're looking at two things and I think

[2:11:52] it's better to give you something than giving nothing.

[2:11:55] That's a shame, that's a question.

[2:11:57] Oh, yes, that's a question.

[2:11:58] Well, it's not difficult to answer.

[2:12:00] That's a answer.

[2:12:01] Oh, just wait, if you look at doing away with the road gang, whatever, I was an impression

[2:12:10] that the major impact we have was, we have a higher number, so I've kept people in the system.

[2:12:18] So, is that going to, if we do those other things, is that going to just proportionate

[2:12:24] being what we get to be made for?

[2:12:26] Yes, so I think it was two separate questions if I'm not mistaken.

[2:12:31] The other reason to get rid of the revolutions is because it's the last deputies we have

[2:12:34] to have.

[2:12:35] We basically, the localities pay for two extra deputies to be able to do road crews that come out and claim that brothers.

[2:12:44] If we didn't have those two extra deputies and they wouldn't have two deputies to bring them out.

[2:12:48] But you need to say them down to prisoners to run the jail regardless.

[2:12:51] So if you're having to believe the jail, then it's two extra positions.

[2:12:55] So actually, it calls to you money to have a road gang.

[2:13:00] It's just not a benefit of having prisoners.

[2:13:05] I think that is the kind of misconception folks have.

[2:13:09] The road gang is two full-time employees that you otherwise would not need.

[2:13:16] In our community, the amount of services we get from a road gang is equally divided between all the localities.

[2:13:23] It's not a portion of the amount of money we put into the jail board into the jail's operations.

[2:13:31] And all the rest about communities, I don't have any time to throw you away.

[2:13:37] You know, they come out of the porch.

[2:13:39] That's not fair.

[2:13:41] I'm sitting on the rabbit heading on juvenile condition, and I also said,

[2:13:45] I don't want its findings to be made.

[2:13:46] They've had a finance committee for many years.

[2:13:50] So I don't find it to be paid for.

[2:13:53] I was calling five students to sit on a juvenile center condition.

[2:13:57] So, and time and strength and it's very difficult to get up there for two separate meetings.

[2:14:04] You have a talk to.

[2:14:05] You have to see what you're going to meet.

[2:14:07] This is all for today in that case.

[2:14:09] Wait, is that mean important names?

[2:14:14] Just because we're different.

[2:14:15] I might tell you.

[2:14:17] Did we need that in a way?

[2:14:19] And in a way, I'd like to point this a trigger.

[2:14:22] The findings are going to be based on virtue of his financial expertise.

[2:14:25] And he's willing to accept that and I don't want the approval of the board to do it because the chair will not be joining the commission.

[2:14:33] But certainly there are any objections that can happen to the president before I ask the commission.

[2:14:38] I was a little closer to Mr. Chairman.

[2:14:41] Mr. Chairman.

[2:14:43] I met Mr. Trader who's been learning the candidate for the hands working for the school system and working for the county as a new finance director.

[2:14:56] Is this something else we're going to be adding to his play while he's still doing?

[2:15:00] Those two roles, are we going to wait until he gets, and I'm not saying that you did the same thing. So, right, so there's somebody else we could put on if you think it would be better, but since you both are doing so much right now. Is it that crucial opportunity?

[2:15:17] It's the committee that formulas the budget for the center and fairly significant fund balance, and the use of that fund balance.

[2:15:26] And to give it a year has presented has prevented increases to us for those increases that you're from staff as a result.

[2:15:33] I think of the habit of using one of that fund balance is very minimal for less than $10,000.

[2:15:55] I think that's your call, I probably should let you make it without it, but in the mouth, so I apologize, but it's kind of a guess. It's a great concern. I talk to you, Trader, and make sure that he is, over to you.

[2:16:11] the requirements of the finance committees, you know, the six to eight meetings per year for

[2:16:17] the amount of talking about a lot that this industrial process has.

[2:16:19] Can we just enable?

[2:16:21] Does the other candidates have board members on?

[2:16:23] They do.

[2:16:25] They do.

[2:16:26] They do.

[2:16:31] They do.

[2:16:31] people on those clients committee who are not members of the commission, it's also

[2:16:35] a really nice balance of expertise for about an antelope commission itself.

[2:16:39] If you need to help Chris Alman, Pitsnea, I can't attend to a problem with that, but

[2:16:45] for us to get a group of people that can just be nice cutting and not have to do with that place.

[2:16:49] I got you.

[2:16:50] I got you.

[2:16:52] Thank you very much.

[2:16:54] It's a broadband committee.

[2:16:56] I know something that is calling myself a training to keep people from moving

[2:17:00] have a not have broadband, but that's not the case. The community has really been working really hard

[2:17:07] to talk to communication and lots of staff and people really worked hard. We're almost close to a

[2:17:14] fence with their whole packet. There'd be presenting a to the board, but one thing, some of you

[2:17:21] I'll maybe get in contact before we get up. One thing that's definitely I did talk about was the fact

[2:17:27] that we've got a seat and felt strong about CUP's with some of those towels, because what

[2:17:33] you don't want is to drive down the road and everybody got towels in their yards and the

[2:17:39] neighbors didn't have a chance to have a safe as we told the committee when the bigger problem

[2:17:47] that we get is when neighbors find out that things have popped up and they weren't notified.

[2:17:53] So, but there are some other people that feel that CQP does strain and a little bit, they're

[2:18:00] building to put up these poles.

[2:18:04] We're looking at some business things and some different things, where maybe if you are

[2:18:08] on a big 500 acre farm, maybe a treat to different or whatever, rather than discussing

[2:18:14] we may have.

[2:18:15] But right now, the work that the committee has done, I'll tell you now, other little

[2:18:22] will be contacting us to see this document, because right now there's not a lot of

[2:18:27] a piece where you can get it from. And so we're kind of on cutting the edge of this

[2:18:32] document and there's no part of it used by a lot of cowards. So we'll move back as we pick

[2:18:38] the vendor at the last meeting to go through the ordinance. And so we'll move right along

[2:18:47] have a missing thing of. And that that's

[2:18:51] been a meeting and we'll probably be at the

[2:18:56] arts board meeting to present a new broadband authority next September.

[2:19:01] Can it be tomorrow night, right?

[2:19:04] Okay.

[2:19:05] Okay.

[2:19:06] Yeah.

[2:19:07] Yes.

[2:19:08] That's right.

[2:19:10] And you're looking at the audience, you know, we had a, I think,

[2:19:13] It was in Russia, it had a collection one time that they cost for something that prevented them from being able to do something.

[2:19:20] Is that the audiences you're looking at, all the count of them?

[2:19:23] That's right.

[2:19:24] And we could do stills good.

[2:19:26] And we recommend the reductions in some of those calls.

[2:19:29] And that's going to be a meaningful message.

[2:19:33] Right.

[2:19:34] And that $4500.

[2:19:36] It's in a $4500 fee for doing one of those studies.

[2:19:41] that's not a good one.

[2:19:41] Yeah, that's good.

[2:19:43] That's good.

[2:19:44] That's good.

[2:19:45] That's good.

[2:19:46] That's good.

[2:19:48] Yeah, mid-re�.

[2:19:58] The report.

[2:20:04] The county administration report.

[2:20:08] Part 2 of the information, I think it was.

[2:20:11] We've heard of it.

[2:20:13] We just have a little read from website and if you haven't been on it, it really

[2:20:18] She says, because I've went on and I was there for two hours and it's phenomenal, everything

[2:20:25] that's incorporate about that.

[2:20:33] Jane and her office worked this year with the Commission on Aging on the Yellow Book.

[2:20:39] And I think everybody's made a female book.

[2:20:42] And it's kind of a Bible to some of the seniors.

[2:20:45] And they brought about a significant savings in doing that.

[2:20:49] And Jane, I really appreciate being the liaison to that group.

[2:20:52] I really appreciate the work that you and your group did on that.

[2:20:55] Those folks kind of hold that pretty close to the chest, but there's a lot of improvements

[2:21:01] made and perhaps some time in the future, I may be some opportunity to fold that into

[2:21:06] something else so you don't have those additional expenditures.

[2:21:10] But you're a group that I'm really good job on that.

[2:21:13] I think it's worked well in another case where you kind of get folks who have skilled in

[2:21:18] are going to do something and it's going to prove to be beneficial.

[2:21:27] And then as I forward a point,

[2:21:34] I forward a promise.

[2:21:38] I guess we've got a way to find it in many committees we will have.

[2:21:42] We have a list of somebody going to take that away with us.

[2:21:50] All right.

[2:21:51] Can a ministry report?

[2:21:53] It's sort of turned forward, and so I think the attention would cover some of these,

[2:22:00] and I think that another Lanko flood drop date, and so there's the delay once again,

[2:22:07] on 118, we've been in a system that's been in damage damage.

[2:22:10] That's the chance of going forward.

[2:22:13] We'll be wrapped up right in six or seven for February,

[2:22:16] and we'll have to do a lot of needs further look at the end and the assessments.

[2:22:21] Also, there's communication and treatment from the Blubana County Board Chairman for Guarding,

[2:22:28] the Central Water and Sewer, and they're willing to just have a workshop with staff,

[2:22:34] and work with them as a group of Guarding.

[2:22:39] And just a couple of day reminders, first and foremost,

[2:22:42] and you shouldn't see the cancellation. You have to spotlight two or three Thursdays, and

[2:22:47] I was talking about the idea workshop, which is 29 to 12 p.m. and Mr. Reminder about local government days for the vehicle of the General Assembly on February 10th.

[2:23:04] The lot of this we've got to Ms. Mozilla, what's

[2:23:12] in the work of the work of the work of the work of the work of the work of what needs to be done, I mean is that it's supposed to have a response back.

[2:23:24] I think probably what I would like to have to do is represent it to work with representatives from the band

[2:23:36] in the work set and they requested it at least a little bit.

[2:23:42] I think that letter gets to the set asked for some specifics, so we need to be working on our response to those specific specifics.

[2:23:52] Otherwise, it's just from being like the last two,

[2:23:54] where you don't really get that, they need to be killed.

[2:23:56] All right.

[2:23:57] So the specifics that they're requesting are going to be

[2:24:02] how it depends on the cost.

[2:24:04] So if you're able to deal with it through the war project,

[2:24:06] the operation is also set here.

[2:24:08] That's right, that means that.

[2:24:10] So they're going to be going to go far, right?

[2:24:13] Well, number, right.

[2:24:14] So what they doing for us and my things, sure.

[2:24:19] And I think this board needs to communicate to child administrator, where we are one

[2:24:28] that we may connect with that up a bit too.

[2:24:31] We need to give you a clear direction as to whether we are on that because of the REE,

[2:24:41] I have a patient deal with that.

[2:24:42] I have a fairer with couple six.

[2:24:43] So we're on track to meet that right now.

[2:24:46] This is a terrorist, the more we deal with this is a photograph of a patient together.

[2:24:50] The Hong Kong's been reviewing it.

[2:24:58] All of the item we'll mention in the animal order.

[2:25:02] Actually part of the previous discussion.

[2:25:04] I'll give you something to do.

[2:25:11] Probably.

[2:25:13] Can't speak to whether or not all this things have been discussed in the previous discussion.

[2:25:18] I don't know.

[2:25:19] Some of them certainly add that the things have been most,

[2:25:22] And it's called the side.

[2:25:25] Yeah.

[2:25:25] And I'll be able to thank you.

[2:25:28] I don't think it's tough to send two board members to do with Modell saying,

[2:25:33] because those two board members will have the power to really get over what Nick.

[2:25:39] I think we need brain boards.

[2:25:43] I know their boards and their board that we can communicate with.

[2:25:46] And so, I think we need to sit down as boy and talk, call, stand, and I think now it's time for a break.

[2:25:56] Can we, my group as Barnes, we eventually got to get together.

[2:25:59] I think maybe it would be better to send two board members every talk to them.

[2:26:06] And go over their specific questions.

[2:26:08] But I think Keenan, a little bit of Mr. Ginger, said, if we get to two boards together,

[2:26:12] I was 13, I was 11, 12, 12, 12, 11.

[2:26:17] We did it together and they say,

[2:26:19] how quickly you're going to have water to the Zion Cross Road

[2:26:21] and how much is it going to cost us?

[2:26:23] We said we don't have, I was going to be the end of the week.

[2:26:26] I mean, just to respond to this question earlier,

[2:26:31] we've had two meetings.

[2:26:31] We talked about the big picture, the overall cost of a whole project.

[2:26:36] But in the potential health, through that account,

[2:26:38] with it and maybe participating water from the design and some of those basic things, but

[2:26:45] we're getting down to point out where we really have to have some somewhat numbers, because

[2:26:51] they haven't decided yet whether they want to participate yet in an agreement, and because

[2:26:55] they start seeing the numbers. So that's what this letter is doing, ask me to follow that

[2:26:59] more detail information. That's what it's going to do.

[2:27:02] I kept my big question in large storage capacity and existing space.

[2:27:11] The last time.

[2:27:14] If you, the last time Mr. Nujer and I met with them.

[2:27:18] It's my understanding that the meeting was.

[2:27:20] They had a few questions.

[2:27:22] Some of the same questions they had now that we could not answer.

[2:27:26] And we told them that they go back and figure out how much of the capital and best

[2:27:31] partner, they could be. They were going to come back and give us the general idea. And once

[2:27:36] we knew whether they were going to be a partner or a customer, it would go a long way

[2:27:42] to determine what those calls were going to be. And they did not elaborate on partner versus

[2:27:49] customer at all in this letter. So I think that our communication need two of them needs to be.

[2:27:56] Are you, once you get past the James Lord of Water Authority's part, are you strictly

[2:28:03] want to be a customer after that, and not a partner in any of the infrastructure,

[2:28:07] and I think that will determine the overall cost?

[2:28:10] And I think technically this board is not taking a decision whether we don't have an agreement.

[2:28:17] The expectation of both groups, everybody has expectations, but do we have a solidified

[2:28:24] expectation from our board of our board, and I think that we have to have that at some point

[2:28:30] because, you know, when you talk to any of the men individually, we'll expect this to happen

[2:28:34] and we want this. And to me, this talks about funding, the funding is just one piece,

[2:28:41] the expectations, and I don't know that you have that. How they have it either.

[2:28:46] Well, how they must have been about it in their opinion. We need to first to say what is that we want

[2:28:52] communicate that to us down, then I know the chairman of the launch people, but my book

[2:28:57] would be the list of the way to Mr. General Library to start the bridge communication

[2:29:02] to continue that communication, but what a more forceful from us where we are. It's kind

[2:29:09] of hard to send people in to negotiate if they don't know what to get negotiate with. So

[2:29:13] I think this board needs to define what it is. You know, for example, there were times with

[2:29:22] If we got to do the whole thing, that's your whole thing, you get up.

[2:29:26] So we need to clearly divide what is that we want.

[2:29:32] We need that question, I guess we don't do that.

[2:29:34] Do you want to be a customer or a partner?

[2:29:36] Well, I don't think they can answer a question.

[2:29:38] They get some of the numbers.

[2:29:40] I don't think we can.

[2:29:42] Excuse me, Frank Rose.

[2:29:43] And I think it, again, it's going to be very difficult to put

[2:29:48] Operation numbers together without the infrastructure or at least designed out of the cycle.

[2:29:54] That's going to have a material effect on great.

[2:29:55] So what we can look at is the structure and something that's what we have for the town.

[2:30:00] Senate range in which the rate can be approved. We'll be calculated by adding x-lines, we call it sub, and it can't exceed what it would be very helpful, so we won't put it in place, and then we've built something that creates a reasonable expectation, but also creates a framework in which they can expect a minimum of maximum.

[2:30:20] I don't know much about this, it's a big return time, it's bad to read it like I am.

[2:30:26] There was article this past weekend about Combo-N, Pow-Tan, and right-cow, what they're doing

[2:30:34] with that browser war and what are the James, and they've pretty much, they're in agreement

[2:30:40] process and they're working with, but make them also short, and I've said before, there

[2:30:46] come a time I think. What a state is going to say. Those of you who haven't

[2:30:51] gotten out of the James, you won't give that a change. And that is my biggest fear

[2:30:57] because when the state told everybody about our values go, we need a water

[2:31:01] study. We want to water study a little cloudy that they will think of down

[2:31:05] rope for that. So now that our neighbors, to low us, are dipping in that same

[2:31:10] important that it is very crucial to us moving forward.

[2:31:20] I agree Mr. Barnes.

[2:31:21] I mean, we had a point.

[2:31:22] I think that obviously if we've had a county wants to partner up with this, they need one.

[2:31:28] But we have not said for sure what we will partner up with.

[2:31:30] We really have it.

[2:31:32] And at the same time, if we could, they're going to partner up with us, they need no

[2:31:36] what's going to cost them to me.

[2:31:38] That's simply what we are.

[2:31:40] And one of the time, you know, they, you know,

[2:31:42] the pipe that's coming up to frankly, you know, if they terminated some place in

[2:31:49] the thing.

[2:31:50] An example of the, if you want a 12 inch pipe to make us actually $1,000 just for water,

[2:31:55] but if they want to get water to be run a 24 inch pipe, do you want to put it in the pipe

[2:31:58] to create an incremental, incremental difference in there, or do they come on as a regular

[2:32:03] potty of those type of things?

[2:32:04] I think that we have to firm up, so we don't know, because they have expectations and we

[2:32:10] of expectation. Do you can we get those in one document to say we all support this well as

[2:32:15] us to bonds and I agree on something? If this is what the final decision of the chart is,

[2:32:19] that's what we go with. But we've got to have that at some point.

[2:32:24] To me, it's critical.

[2:32:26] We have to have it. Do you know what I'm saying?

[2:32:28] Sounds like we've spent months and months and months talking about, you know, what we need to do

[2:32:36] as far as number one, how we're going to pay for this side.

[2:32:40] But then we have

[2:32:45] one who has a representative that's all excited about it, and that we

[2:32:50] know that.

[2:32:53] And his expectations, I think, are totally different than what we should say, big.

[2:33:01] So I mean, I think this morning, we got to decide what we want to do with it, and then

[2:33:08] we can talk through them

[2:33:11] and we've heard everybody wants to go follow with it.

[2:33:16] But then that's kind of, it just runs running circles after that.

[2:33:21] I don't think we haven't taken action to decide exactly what we're going to go.

[2:33:26] And they haven't taken board action because they don't know what to call.

[2:33:29] So both boards sitting there just kind of...

[2:33:31] Yeah.

[2:33:32] We said a lot of back board.

[2:33:34] I'm suggesting we do a combination of what everybody said.

[2:33:40] That's just to not get me with him talk to him, so I mean if you're going to participate in this thing from a CIP standpoint,

[2:33:48] you're going to have plenty of money for infrastructure and for treatment either of water or of sewage.

[2:33:54] And if you are, how much? And if you're not, that's fine. If you're not, we can do what Mr. Good wants to adjust it and do basically work in conjunction with the water authority, because the fee structure is going to be

[2:34:09] their deal, not ours, and come up with a high and low.

[2:34:15] Who's on a changewater rental? Who's on their thirties?

[2:34:19] I suppose you do D-watch and Steve Nichols.

[2:34:27] Does he, what a thirties, they get enough?

[2:34:31] they're looking for some on that acquisition of property. So they will own the

[2:34:37] essential of the property and the pipe associated there will come and up

[2:34:41] there's within. Mr. Chairman, do we need about to have a problem with it?

[2:34:47] Fab bullet points, that chairman Booker, set to us, to respond to. I think I think both

[2:34:57] and even though the answer is those books.

[2:35:00] I get to.

[2:35:00] And right now, how would you respond to that?

[2:35:03] No, I'm saying allow Mr. Wade and Mr. Dentist to start with those bullet points.

[2:35:12] I think timing is either one.

[2:35:15] That's construction time table.

[2:35:18] Water treatment costs you can find those.

[2:35:20] But how do you want to partner with these costs?

[2:35:24] Or you want to be a youth.

[2:35:25] And I think that would go to, and I think when they meet, we just act at the specific question.

[2:35:30] I think it was $15 million to be a partner.

[2:35:34] Then the cost of order goes down to a business.

[2:35:36] They give us zero dollars.

[2:35:37] The cost of order changes tremendously.

[2:35:39] So what we got to do is a partner.

[2:35:40] We got to do it a lot.

[2:35:42] What a partner means working towards a 50, 50, equity, 50, and understood.

[2:35:49] Well, they didn't need to happen next.

[2:35:50] I think you shouldn't even meet with Fluvana.

[2:35:53] and ask that specific question, and let them know prior to the meeting that you will ask that question, so they can top it up over.

[2:36:00] If they don't want to be far enough to be working on the assumption of their customers that we call it whether they are ready,

[2:36:05] so how much else to get the order?

[2:36:07] Everybody in the brain would be there.

[2:36:09] That's somewhere.

[2:36:10] Oh, God.

[2:36:11] Good job.

[2:36:12] You have been doing it again with the investigation.

[2:36:15] I just want to make sure we have more information.

[2:36:18] We can give them a chance.

[2:36:19] Otherwise, we'll be in the moment.

[2:36:21] You want to stand like you're not going to?

[2:36:23] Well, they ensign you way that the last meeting

[2:36:25] needs to count an interest rate and make comments about

[2:36:28] part and stuff from the land from Frank Diff's designs.

[2:36:31] If he either was born.

[2:36:33] But again, that's the count of administrators talking.

[2:36:37] And we go, if you don't watch, we'd be right back

[2:36:39] where we've been in the last 20 years.

[2:36:40] You've got a lot of talking going back and forth.

[2:36:43] And neither board taken action.

[2:36:44] So you're saying that when you all go and meet with them,

[2:36:47] Should Christian and Nichols be that too?

[2:36:52] Well, it's steeped.

[2:36:53] They've been there.

[2:36:54] They've been there.

[2:36:54] And they've been there.

[2:36:56] I think what it's going to turn into to be broadcast with these.

[2:36:59] We're going to ask them if they're going to be partners or customers.

[2:37:02] They're probably going to tell us they want to be partners.

[2:37:05] They're not going to be able to commit to any sort of money.

[2:37:07] We're going to proceed like the customers.

[2:37:09] But at least we'd have for sure that we can't have anything like that.

[2:37:12] So that's what's going to happen.

[2:37:12] And I think when I went apart in the years, you know,

[2:37:15] it's a part of the first two miles on the further,

[2:37:18] a 30% of the next mile, you know,

[2:37:20] somewhere we're going to find what a part of it is.

[2:37:22] Yeah, I agree.

[2:37:24] All right.

[2:37:25] So we said that trial will end up going to come.

[2:37:29] We'll get off this topic completely.

[2:37:31] Oh, we already, yeah.

[2:37:33] Your approach, you go back and read the other two letters that we wrote.

[2:37:37] That we wrote.

[2:37:38] the gate gates fields that we're looking for in the agreement, so you know that the total

[2:37:44] history is on that part.

[2:38:05] The chair was a kind of noise that we thought.

[2:38:08] Yes, sir.

[2:38:08] And I can tell it doesn't matter.

[2:38:11] The relation of law is not a problem.

[2:38:15] But we're able to say.

[2:38:16] No, it's both in the movies, sir.

[2:38:21] All on the face, sir.

[2:38:22] No, no.

[2:38:24] Go to the prison.

[2:38:25] Don't.

[2:38:27] Build the prison.

[2:38:28] You'll be in the same.

[2:38:30] No, don't.

[2:38:30] All over the place.

[2:38:32] All, all opposed.

[2:38:35] Men, it's appropriate.

[2:38:36] No, move.

[2:38:38] No, no, don't.

[2:38:39] No.

[2:38:40] Stop.

[2:38:41] Move.

[2:38:42] Go to the prison.

[2:38:43] Go to the prison.

[2:38:45] Move.

[2:38:45] That's what I'm saying.

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