[4:53] Supervisors for January 6, January 7, 2025 to order. We have two members of the board participating remotely, and Patricia Fumm Correct. Do they have to state that they're participating remotely and where they are and why they're participating remotely? Am I correct on that?

[5:11] Yes, you are.

[5:14] Supervisors, Jones, could I ask you to state where you are and why you're participating remotely please?

[5:23] Yes, that's you. Where are you? Why are you just paying remotely? Very

[5:34] good. Thank you. Supervisor McCotter. Can I ask you to do the same?

[5:40] Yes, sir. I then floor up on a business trip. There's why I'm participating remotely.

[5:47] Thank you. I'm horrible. Please.

[5:50] That's right. That's right. Okay. Well, the first item on the agenda under the organizational meeting is a resolution to appoint the chairman of the Louisiana County Board of Supervisors for 2000 and 25.

[6:00] the floor is now open for nominations.

[6:03] Mr. Chair.

[6:04] Mr. Chair, I moved to nominate Mr. Duane Adams.

[6:09] All right.

[6:10] We've got a motion in a second to nominate Mr. Adams.

[6:13] Are there further nominations?

[6:15] Hearing none.

[6:17] The nominations are closed.

[6:19] And I believe this has to be a role call vote.

[6:21] So I'll just go around the table.

[6:23] Mr. Williams?

[6:24] Yes. Mr. Adams?

[6:26] Yes. Mr. Barlow?

[6:27] Yes.

[6:27] Mr. Barnes?

[6:28] Yes.

[6:29] Mr. Woodward, Mr. Jones, Mr. McCotter, the vote is unanimous.

[6:36] Congratulations, Mr. Chairman, the Gavillage Awards.

[6:38] Thank you.

[6:39] Well, thank you all.

[6:41] I appreciate your continued confidence.

[6:43] It's four years in a row, so hopefully we get through this year's smoothness.

[6:47] We've got through the last three.

[6:49] The next item is a resolution to point the Vice Chairman of the

[6:53] little ways of County Board of Supervisors for 2025.

[6:56] Mr. Jones.

[6:57] Mr. Jones.

[6:57] I moved to nominate Mr. Tomibolo.

[7:00] Second.

[7:02] All right.

[7:03] Nomination and second interpoint, Mr. Barlow,

[7:06] are there any other nominations?

[7:10] All right.

[7:10] Seeing none, nominations are closed.

[7:13] Again, this needs to be a roll call, though.

[7:14] Mr. Williams.

[7:16] Yes.

[7:16] Yes, Mr. Barlow.

[7:17] Yes.

[7:17] Mr. Barlow.

[7:18] Yes.

[7:18] Mr. Jones.

[7:22] Yes.

[7:23] Mr. McCarter.

[7:25] Yes.

[7:26] All right.

[7:28] Congratulations, Mr. Barnl.

[7:30] Thank you.

[7:31] Secretary.

[7:31] Secretary, is there a resolution established in the Board of Supervisors meeting dates and time,

[7:36] which has been given out ahead of time in a board packet?

[7:39] Is there a motion to approve that?

[7:41] It's so movement, Chairman.

[7:42] In property moved in second,

[7:44] that we approve the meeting dates and time for 2025 any discussion?

[7:47] All those in favor signify by saying aye.

[7:50] Any opposed?

[7:52] Mr. McCartner, did you vote?

[7:53] That's the one thing to do.

[7:54] Yes, sir.

[7:55] I did.

[7:56] Investors unanimously.

[7:58] Next is a resolution adopting the bylaws for the Board of Supervisors, which copies

[8:02] been provided ahead of time.

[8:04] It's been.

[8:04] Oh, my.

[8:04] Second.

[8:05] Been properly moved in second.

[8:06] We adopt the bylaws.

[8:07] Board of Supervisors for 2025.

[8:10] Any discussion?

[8:11] All those in favour of signify by saying aye.

[8:15] Any opposed motion passes unanimously.

[8:19] Next will be a motion by the vice chair to go into closed session.

[8:23] I move there with convening closed session pursuant to the following subsections of Virginia

[8:27] Code section 2.23711 in accordance with section 2.23711E3 discussion of consideration

[8:37] of the acquisition of real property for the public purpose or of disposition of publicly

[8:42] how real property or discussion in open meeting would adversely affect the bottom in position

[8:48] or negotiating strategies as a public body.

[8:51] Two, in accordance with Section 2.237, 1185, discussion concerning their prospective business

[8:58] or endosteric, or the expansion of existing business or endosteric in the Mountain Road District,

[9:04] or no previous announcement has been made of the business, when there's this interesting

[9:08] locating or expanding its facilities in the committee.

[9:11] Number three, in accordance with 2.237 11AEA consultation with legal counsel and fraud or

[9:19] retained by a public body regarding specific legal matters requiring the provisions

[9:24] of legal advice, but that's such a gas.

[9:28] You're second.

[9:29] Second.

[9:29] In property moves and saying we're going to close session in discussion, all those in favor

[9:33] of signify by saying aye.

[9:35] Aye.

[9:36] Any opposed motion passes unanimously.

[9:38] Mr. Makata, we're going to kill the live feed.

[9:41] At this point, and when we go into closed session, we'll call you directly and then bring

[9:47] you back on the meetings when we come back at six o'clock.

[9:52] The board is in closed session.

[11:55] All right, thank you.

[1:02:49] Mr. Chairman, I'm moving to go back into a session.

[1:02:52] It's been properly moved.

[1:02:53] Second, we go back into open section. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

[1:02:59] Any opposed?

[1:03:01] Motion passes. I will now pull members to certify that the best of your knowledge on a public

[1:03:06] Business Matters lawfully exempted from the open meeting requirements under the Virginia

[1:03:10] Freedom of Information Act and is identified in the motion for which the closed meeting was convened.

[1:03:16] We're discussed and considered by the Board.

[1:03:17] If any member believes in the board varied from the purpose of stated for the close meeting

[1:03:22] in the police state so in the reason prior to casting a vote, Mr. McCotter.

[1:03:29] Mrs. Jones.

[1:03:30] Mr. Williams.

[1:03:32] Yes.

[1:03:32] Mr. Barlow.

[1:03:33] Yes.

[1:03:34] Mr. Barnes.

[1:03:34] Yes.

[1:03:35] Mr. Woodward.

[1:03:37] All right.

[1:03:37] We're back into open session.

[1:03:39] I'd like to welcome those of you that are here in the public meeting room and those that are watching

[1:03:43] online.

[1:03:43] this is the first meeting of the Louise Accounting Board of Supervisors for 2025.

[1:03:50] Welcome to this meeting. Before we move into our administrative items, we do have Mr.

[1:03:58] McCotter who is joining us remotely and according to our by-laws, Mr. McCotter, would you

[1:04:03] tell us the reason that you're joining us remotely?

[1:04:09] Yes, I thought I would speak on a business trip.

[1:04:12] All right. Thank you, sir. We will start today's meeting as we do at the

[1:04:18] this evening's meeting of every meeting with the invocation and the

[1:04:21] pleasure of allegiance. The invocation tonight will be by Mr. Barnes. If you

[1:04:25] care to join us, please stand.

[1:04:30] Let us pray. Father God, I want to thank you for letting us see another year

[1:04:34] Father God. We ask you that 2021 and 25 be a good year for the board to do

[1:04:44] citizens. First I'd follow down best of our troops, that they're fighting for a

[1:04:48] nearer, that you protect them and keep them, but also best of citizens of the

[1:04:52] Louisiana County, while we make decisions that affect their lives and your

[1:04:56] name, we pray, amen. Amen.

[1:04:59] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[1:05:09] as well with an empty and just as well.

[1:05:15] All right, thank you.

[1:05:17] Next is the adoption of the agenda.

[1:05:20] Mr. Williams?

[1:05:21] Yes.

[1:05:21] We have published a revised agenda for a night,

[1:05:24] so that some people that were coming to do some presentations

[1:05:27] didn't have to travel, and so that we could streamline the meeting

[1:05:29] tonight.

[1:05:30] So I move that we approve the revised agenda.

[1:05:34] In property moved in second, that we approve the revised agenda

[1:05:39] any discussion, all those in favour signify by saying aye, any opposed motion passes unanimously.

[1:05:46] Next is the approval of the minutes.

[1:05:49] So move, second.

[1:05:50] We've been property moved and second we approve the minutes from the December 2nd meeting any discussion, all those in favour signify by saying aye, any opposed motion passes unanimously.

[1:06:00] Next is the approval of the bills.

[1:06:01] So move, second.

[1:06:02] In property moved in second that we approve the bills any discussion all those in favor of signify by saying aye

[1:06:10] Motion passes unanimously next is the approval of the consent agenda

[1:06:15] So move

[1:06:15] In property moved in second that we approve the consent agenda all those in favor signify by saying aye

[1:06:23] All those opposed motion passes unanimously

[1:06:25] unanimously.

[1:06:28] Next is recognitions. We don't have any recognitions this evening. We do have

[1:06:34] our public comment period and I think we have some cards. We do have four public hearings tonight,

[1:06:45] so if you're here to discuss anything related to a public hearing, that would be the time that

[1:06:51] would want to do that. We do have a public comment submitted online for Mr. J. R.

[1:07:02] Stalin's, which will be submitted into the record and become part of the official record

[1:07:06] of the board. Is there any other individual that would wish to address the board during

[1:07:12] public comment period? All right. We'll move on. Next is information and discussion items

[1:07:21] And we do have one update there, and that's Mr. Goodman.

[1:07:26] Well, we haven't unmuted yet.

[1:07:28] Okay, and did Ms.

[1:07:29] Has been started to signify to anybody that she wanted to speak during public comment period.

[1:07:33] She has not.

[1:07:34] She has not.

[1:07:36] I don't do that.

[1:07:38] Oh, maybe I maybe your hand is up there.

[1:07:41] Missed her.

[1:07:42] I've seen you there a little emoji.

[1:07:44] I apologize.

[1:07:45] Mrs. Hart.

[1:07:49] You got to unmute yourself.

[1:07:53] There we go.

[1:07:56] Thank goodness.

[1:07:57] Okay.

[1:07:58] You thought you could get away.

[1:08:00] I don't remember.

[1:08:01] I hope we could get away.

[1:08:03] Yeah.

[1:08:04] There is a difference.

[1:08:06] Thank you.

[1:08:06] Fickey hard.

[1:08:08] Town of Louisa.

[1:08:10] Three eleven club route.

[1:08:12] I have a question regarding.

[1:08:15] And this.

[1:08:17] I was not able to attend the last meeting.

[1:08:19] So you'll have to bear with me.

[1:08:22] You amended the bylaws for the.

[1:08:26] county board of supervisors and my question is there's a lot in here about the behavior

[1:08:32] of residents towards any board of supervisor member, but there is nothing about the behavior

[1:08:39] of any board of supervisor member to a resident of the county.

[1:08:45] I'm just questioning why it's one way in the discussion in there and there is nothing

[1:08:55] stated anything about comments made by a board to supervise your regarding a resident.

[1:09:04] Also, that's enough.

[1:09:06] That's good.

[1:09:07] Thank you.

[1:09:07] Thank you, Miss Hart.

[1:09:09] Well, this is news.

[1:09:11] Let me see.

[1:09:12] I guess I got it.

[1:09:13] I like that.

[1:09:13] New upgrade for 2025.

[1:09:15] I like that.

[1:09:17] Is there any other individual that like to address the board during public comment period?

[1:09:23] All right, seeing that, we'll move on then.

[1:09:27] Under information and discussion items,

[1:09:29] we do have an update on regional transmission projects

[1:09:32] impacting the county and Mr. Goodman, I believe that you.

[1:09:35] Sure thing, thank you Mr. Chairman and members of the board.

[1:09:37] Just a brief update for you this evening.

[1:09:39] I'm going to draw your attention to packet page 93.

[1:09:42] If you have a moment to turn to that.

[1:09:45] There is an entity called the PGM that oversees

[1:09:50] the provisioning of electrical services in the region that includes Virginia, and that's

[1:09:55] several states as well as Virginia, and they go through an open window process for transmission

[1:10:00] projects.

[1:10:01] And essentially what they do during that process is ensure that demands are met by available transmission

[1:10:09] infrastructure and available generation infrastructure.

[1:10:13] So, the county doesn't have a formal role in this process and PGMs role is basically it's

[1:10:23] high level right now, you know, they're essentially saying what we all generally know

[1:10:28] and that is there is a great draw for power along the north and eastern parts of Virginia

[1:10:34] with data center development in northern Virginia, continue electrification of vehicles, there

[1:10:40] is available power to transmit to those needs in the future and we're talking about a multi-year

[1:10:45] window in kind of a south and west and those are very generally speaking, but they have

[1:10:51] over the past several months been looking through ideas for moving power up to the areas

[1:10:58] that need the power. And one of those potential solutions for transmitting power may impact the

[1:11:05] And that is in the graphic that's included on page 93.

[1:11:09] It appears, when you look at it, if you look at the map, you're going to say, well,

[1:11:15] they don't have labels on here for county boundaries.

[1:11:17] They don't have interstates.

[1:11:20] The place is labeled on the map, just use substation names.

[1:11:24] So it's a little difficult to tell exactly where things are.

[1:11:27] And that's because this is still very much at a high level planning stage.

[1:11:29] It hasn't gone to the SEC or anything like that.

[1:11:32] But they are the entity that looks at projects and potential projects that would meet needs and then sends those projects to the SEC going forward.

[1:11:43] So, what they are focused on in this region this year is the development of 765 kW which are bigger than the current lines that are in the county.

[1:11:51] And the rough route of that line would parallel the existing 500 KV line that kind of runs roughly up the eastern side of the county from Vante up towards the power plant.

[1:12:03] So if that project were approved and it moved forward, it could follow a route that may parallel that could change.

[1:12:12] But given the fact that there's already a line there, it could parallel that and involve some additional acreage along the side of that.

[1:12:20] some additional footage along the side of that existing route.

[1:12:24] The timeline for the process, their board will meet and decide on final recommendations

[1:12:30] later in the first quarter of this year.

[1:12:33] It would then go to the SEC like lay in 2026 construction on anything that the SEC approved

[1:12:39] would take place probably in the early 2030s, but I just want to bring your attention to this right now.

[1:12:45] We don't have a formal role at this point.

[1:12:47] Again, it's very high level or a planning oriented,

[1:12:50] but it could impact the county,

[1:12:51] and that is a potential direct impact

[1:12:53] that it could have to the county.

[1:12:54] So I welcome any questions that you may have.

[1:12:58] I'm not smart enough.

[1:13:00] This is not my area of expertise.

[1:13:01] I'm just trying to stay on top of this

[1:13:02] so that I can keep you all and anyone else apprised.

[1:13:05] And I'm happy to get information on anything

[1:13:07] that you need to know that I cannot answer directly.

[1:13:11] Anybody have any comments?

[1:13:11] I do.

[1:13:12] I mean, looking at the very generalized,

[1:13:14] very generalized map that they've given out.

[1:13:17] I have some concerns about these transmission lines coming across.

[1:13:20] I have some really serious concerns about, sorry about that.

[1:13:25] I have some really serious concerns about it crossing the historic green springs.

[1:13:30] It's probably a county area.

[1:13:32] It's probably a county, it's a eastern area.

[1:13:33] Is it the eastern end of the county?

[1:13:35] Yeah, about taste and hand over.

[1:13:37] Okay, so this won't be coming through.

[1:13:40] Is there a green springs?

[1:13:41] It doesn't look that way, but I will tell you I spent two and a half hours on one of their communities.

[1:13:46] Yeah, yeah, yeah

[1:13:49] What they had provided to me in advance of today's meeting look like it was going to stay in the eastern side of the county, and I think that is going to

[1:13:56] Again today they provided this to you. Okay, where we are right now. I mean, it hasn't been finalized yet

[1:14:02] But I'm very interested in exactly where it's going to be as well

[1:14:05] And if you ask PJM these kinds of detail questions that both you and I and anyone else would have

[1:14:09] They say we're not in the business of telling you where lines are going to be located

[1:14:13] That is up to the entity building the line and you all as a local government at that point if the SEC approves a project

[1:14:21] So I would I would share your concerns just like everyone else does

[1:14:25] They will tell you we are just engineers looking for

[1:14:29] To supply power needs with power generation. Yeah, I understand that I just I hope it stays on the eastern end and doesn't cross and come through

[1:14:37] Historic lands and even and I know Tony just looked at me when I said that

[1:14:43] But, you know, farm land too, you know, we need to protect what we have here.

[1:14:49] Well, the other thing you need to understand is that, I think it's actually a butts the piece that I live on, and when they built the power plants that...

[1:15:00] Bill 1 and 2, they started building 3 and most of the 500 KV lines that you see running around here, there's enough

[1:15:06] easement for 2,500 KV lines, because they were supposed to be raptor 3 and 4 and they were never built.

[1:15:11] So, most of the high voltage lines that you see, 500 KVs, most of those easements are probably large enough for 2, it's only got developed for 1.

[1:15:22] They've talked about that a little bit and I think the way they characterize potential additional space needs

[1:15:29] is variable because in some areas it's wide enough in some areas they would need additional

[1:15:33] but I think if if entities were to move forward with that development their preference

[1:15:38] would be to parallel or stay within that existing easement as you said Mr. Williams.

[1:15:43] But it's actually what role will the county have as we move through this process? I mean I know

[1:15:48] It should 2030, 20, 30, 20, 30, 20, 35.

[1:15:51] There it comes.

[1:15:53] But...

[1:15:54] A couple.

[1:15:54] I mean, anyone who wants to tune in at this point to PJM's efforts can do so.

[1:16:01] And I mean, the type of input that we're talking about now, they typically...

[1:16:05] I don't want to say they squalch it or they should.

[1:16:07] Because they don't.

[1:16:08] They welcome it, but their response is always...

[1:16:11] We don't talk down at that level.

[1:16:13] Yeah, no, but when we get to that level.

[1:16:15] So, the next step will be the SEC. Obviously, there will be ample public comment and county comment opportunities at the SEC level.

[1:16:25] And then if the SEC does decide to approve a project, then the county, as I understand, we'll have a seat at the table with the constructing entity to decide on exact footprints and routes and things like that.

[1:16:38] So, multi-year process, more potential for involvement going forward.

[1:16:41] Well, as Mr. Williams said, and what my hope is, and you and I have talked about this in the past,

[1:16:45] is the least disruptive route for any of these lines, and I'm sure they're going to be built,

[1:16:53] as obviously there need for electricity continues to grow, is to either use the existing easements or

[1:16:58] parallel the existing easements, because those are already in place. All right, anything else? Thank you, sir.

[1:17:07] Under end finish business. We don't have anything on the agenda. I got a couple of things. I wanted to add

[1:17:12] Mr. Mr. McAdder as I say. Oh, I'm sorry.

[1:17:15] Go ahead, sir.

[1:17:18] Okay, real quick.

[1:17:20] The way I looked at that map, we were going to be using existing easements.

[1:17:23] I think I should revise the way it's noted.

[1:17:25] As well as you did, Chairman.

[1:17:28] My question is probably what most of the constituents are wanting.

[1:17:31] How do they, how are they made aware?

[1:17:34] or happen they make themselves aware of this process of when these decisions will be made

[1:17:40] how they can participate in it or we're just going to wait and see and then we'll just

[1:17:43] think that information to them, is there a way that staff can find out how constituents

[1:17:48] can be made aware? Yeah, they can certainly follow along with P.J.M.'s process. That information

[1:17:56] is publicly available that committee's meetings and I will put some information together

[1:18:02] and we can share that so that people are able to follow along themselves as well as the

[1:18:07] great points are.

[1:18:13] Thank you.

[1:18:14] Mr. McHodder, you may have to call out as well because it's a little icon when you raise

[1:18:20] your hand as extremely small.

[1:18:23] So I apologize I didn't see that.

[1:18:26] Under unfinished business we actually don't have anything but a couple of things I

[1:18:35] today to today due to the weather. We have tried to accommodate people with our public

[1:18:45] hearings today. We have three different options for people to weigh in on public hearings

[1:18:51] whether they're in person, whether they want to submit something in writing or we do have

[1:18:56] an option for a team's meeting or a Zoom. We'll go through that when we get to the public

[1:19:01] So that people can participate and we've taken all that into consideration to try to make tonight's meeting as accessible as possible.

[1:19:13] I'd also like to give a shout out to the County staff, Mr. Goodwin, and his staff to Mr. Wolfok and his staff in general services for getting the facilities ready and the facilities open.

[1:19:27] I know that we're getting the polls open today, it was a election day, and I also wanted

[1:19:31] to follow up on something that I asked staff to look into at the last meeting, and it

[1:19:37] would be appropriate to talk about it or mention it now.

[1:19:41] That is, there has been a question about emergency weather shelters by churches and things

[1:19:48] in the county, and we do know that there is a zoning issue, and staff is looking at the

[1:19:53] an issue. And I just wanted to be clear that my intent, speaking for myself, my intent,

[1:20:00] was that we find a way that we can work with existing religious organizations that if

[1:20:05] there's a need for temporary housing emergency shelters, especially in a event like we just

[1:20:13] had, that we can work through to find a way to get everybody in compliance. And I think

[1:20:18] there I received some phone calls and I think some people were confused about what the intent

[1:20:23] there. I personally think that's probably one of the

[1:20:27] colleagues of the church is to provide shelter for people

[1:20:29] when they're there. So as we work through that process, I just

[1:20:32] wanted to make sure that my intentions were clear.

[1:20:38] We'll go to reports of officers, boards, and standing committees. I

[1:20:41] don't know that we have any committee reports. Do we have any

[1:20:44] committee reports to see? Yes, sir.

[1:20:50] I just, it's not really a committee report, but I had a

[1:20:53] the graduation of 11 EMT. Graduates held a leg on a rescue and the class was taught by

[1:21:02] Jen Ford and whoever she had assisting her. Anyway, it just shows that there's an awful

[1:21:11] lot of time involved with these most of them were young kids, but there were some from

[1:21:17] the county is taking the EMT training and they've got over two hundred and five hours of

[1:21:24] class time in that and that doesn't include clinical time or their study time or travel time

[1:21:33] and that's the so to think that somebody is volunteering two hundred and five hours of peace for

[1:21:40] He's a loving graduate, I think he's pretty there going commendable and I'm in discussion

[1:21:48] with Jen forward and I would maybe like to get them to come to one of our meetings so

[1:21:57] we can express that appreciation in a resolution for something like that.

[1:22:02] We haven't worked that out yet, but it's just amazing the amount of time that they're putting

[1:22:09] forth into these things and I suspect a lot of these young people will end up being

[1:22:17] creased there for Louisa at some point. So it's just a awful lot of time being put

[1:22:25] in it. I wasn't aware of that you could attend. I was supposed to attend. I had

[1:22:33] whatever was going around that night and I had to not attend so I'm glad you were

[1:22:37] I just like to follow up with that, I had the opportunity on the flip side, some of those young people who, maybe not directly in that class, but other classes, have put to the professional side, and I had the pleasure of attending our graduation on the professional staff side right before Christmas, and that was, we had promotions that day, and we had was it 18 graduate, Mr. Goodwin.

[1:23:02] Yes.

[1:23:03] H and graduate, some of those Mr. Goodman and I got to speak at the event at the graduation

[1:23:09] and a lot of them were young people that have made that step.

[1:23:13] So it's exciting that there's the pipeline is there for that.

[1:23:16] I was just speaking this week into another young lady who's got to graduate from Louisiana

[1:23:21] and she wants to go into that career path and she's taking classes now and I would like

[1:23:26] to come to Louisiana one day.

[1:23:28] So I think that's pretty awesome.

[1:23:30] I also just have something very quickly for the committee.

[1:23:36] It has to do with the chamber.

[1:23:38] The chamber just to brief update on the chamber and their meetings.

[1:23:43] They have some events coming up on January 21st.

[1:23:45] They have leadership, Luisa, on the 22nd.

[1:23:49] They have a business forum coming up and all of this is posted on their website.

[1:23:54] They also have some ribbon cuttings and they have a very active January ahead of the chamber

[1:23:59] of commerce.

[1:23:59] So, they are busy working for our businesses in our community.

[1:24:05] Mr. Chair, just briefly would like to give y'all a recap of the Commission on Aging's Christmas function, her dinner luncheon.

[1:24:17] Just under 200 folks attendle, certainly appreciate supervisor Jones, supervisor Barlow,

[1:24:24] and a really special thank you and appreciation to Supervisor Barnes for providing such a great meal for us.

[1:24:33] And I think everybody had a good time. It was my first one to attend.

[1:24:39] And I was very impressed. It was a really nice turnout and a nice event.

[1:24:45] It was a live band.

[1:24:47] It was a live band who was awesome.

[1:24:49] Yes.

[1:24:51] Yeah.

[1:24:52] Everyone else?

[1:24:53] All right.

[1:24:54] Moving on to board appointments this week.

[1:24:56] Mr. Chairman.

[1:24:57] I think I have two tonight.

[1:24:59] I got on the water 30 David Keys.

[1:25:01] I'd like to read point him.

[1:25:03] I think he expired in the November.

[1:25:06] And evidently we have opening on the board of building appeals.

[1:25:10] I'd like to point Jeff luck to have.

[1:25:13] Okay.

[1:25:14] Any other appointments?

[1:25:15] Yes.

[1:25:16] Yes.

[1:25:16] also one reappointment and one new appointment. Water Authority, I'd like to reappoint

[1:25:23] by a party. I think everybody sitting here certainly knows. And would like to appoint

[1:25:29] Susan Fletcher to the Commission on Aging is the Louise of District Representative.

[1:25:34] Okay. Is that a new appointment for...

[1:25:37] For the Association of Aging?

[1:25:39] Yeah, it is. It should be should do good there.

[1:25:41] Let's go ahead. Any other appointments?

[1:25:43] All right, can I have one motion for all those?

[1:25:47] It is one motion.

[1:25:49] That's the second.

[1:25:51] And perhaps we've moved in second to the, we make these four appointments in a discussion

[1:25:55] all those in favor of signify by saying aye, any opposed motion passes unanimously.

[1:26:02] Preation of the staff of the last 48, 72 hours whenever we started counting, it was

[1:26:09] whether event always is a different set of challenges for us and I'm always super proud of our team

[1:26:14] response.

[1:26:15] So, law enforcement, dispatch, fire and emergency services, all the folks who've never stopped

[1:26:19] general services parks and wrecks staff who worked around the clock and got us here today.

[1:26:25] They really do great work.

[1:26:26] We are going to open it 1030 tomorrow, just a little last melting for the parking lots and

[1:26:31] the sidewalks outside just to make sure it's safe for the public to get into the buildings.

[1:26:36] And we're watching another potential weather system for the weekend.

[1:26:39] So we'll keep you posted on that and everybody be safe out there.

[1:26:43] It can't be spent operating the airport now for a few months.

[1:26:47] We had talked about an airport advisory board.

[1:26:49] I'd encourage the board to be thinking about that.

[1:26:52] We have some structuring recommendations for the board to consider,

[1:26:55] so please be on the lookout for those coming up soon.

[1:26:58] And last but certainly not least,

[1:27:00] we continue to be negotiating with the Center for Genie

[1:27:03] about moving publications back to the local paper.

[1:27:06] They are switching to a different system

[1:27:10] for taking online advertisements starting on the 9th of January.

[1:27:15] So assuming that goes well, we haven't talked to them in the last week or so.

[1:27:19] But assuming that goes well, we would start publications for the February 3rd.

[1:27:24] Board of Supervisors meeting and the February 13th planning commission meetings.

[1:27:28] So the advertisements for the 3rd Board of Supervisors meeting would be on Thursday the 16th of January

[1:27:33] And Thursday the 23rd of January for public hearings and for the planning commission would start January the 30th and February the 6th

[1:27:40] So that February 13th meeting. I know that's a slew of dates, but essentially that means that assuming their systems which went well and that takes place on the 9th of January

[1:27:49] We will start in January moving our advertisements back to the CV and I'm excited about that. It'll be great. Thank you, thank you

[1:27:57] Any questions for Mr. Goodman?

[1:27:59] Thank you, sir. All right. We'll move on to public hearings. We do have four public hearings.

[1:28:03] This evening, the first is an ordinance to approve proposed amendments, chapter 86,

[1:28:09] land development regulations, Article 1, General provisions, Article 2, zoning ordinance and

[1:28:14] maps, Article 3, subdivision, Article 4, supplementary regulations, and Article 5, signs, phase

[1:28:21] one, ordinance 2024-11, which is about to

[1:28:35] have you do here.

[1:28:38] Public hearing, we have receiving our report proposed amendments to chapter 86 plan development.

[1:28:44] Regulations includes article 1, general provisions, article 2, zoning ordinance, and maps,

[1:28:49] article 3 subdivision, article 4 supplementary, supplementary regulations, and article 5 signs.

[1:28:56] The proposed amendments are intended to address discrepancy, clarify regulations, insure

[1:29:02] alignment with more stringent, federal and state regulations, update standards to reflect

[1:29:08] current practices and make adjustments based on the community needs and the 244 comprehensive

[1:29:13] plan.

[1:29:14] They are also intended to improve efficiency of the ordinances by removing conflicts and outdated

[1:29:24] amendments are on pages two hundred and sixteen through two twenty six in your

[1:29:29] board packet. Just quickly I'm going to briefly go through these under eighty six

[1:29:35] thirteen definitions. We have amended bed and breakfast to increase stays from

[1:29:40] five nights to seven nights. Underbuilding setback line added language that the

[1:29:46] lot also has to meet them in a lot with requirement. We've added a new definition

[1:29:51] For food truck, we have removed food truck from the at-enerent vendor definition.

[1:29:57] Under minimum lot area, we have amended that to clear.

[1:30:00] There are five that the lot area is exclusive of any rights of way areas or easements. Lot with, we've added clarification that if the lot with does not

[1:30:11] met at the building setback that the front setback becomes the point on the lot where the lot with is met.

[1:30:17] Under special advertising signs, we've included coming soon signs, which are at a nine square foot limit with 14 days, but no permit is required.

[1:30:28] Under temporary sign we have also added coming soon signs increase the length of time to 90 days and a sign permit is required.

[1:30:39] Section 8644 we've removed the requirement for conditional use permit for any sewer system designed to contain a point source discharge as this is regulated by the state and federal provisions.

[1:30:53] We have relocated section 86404, both area, overlays districts to be near the growth area

[1:31:03] overlay standards right now. They're currently in two different sections of the ordinance

[1:31:07] so they're not beside each other so it makes it difficult when explaining and directing people

[1:31:13] to those regulations. There are amendments to 86109, the use matrix which will be amended

[1:31:22] to reflect changes that are being proposed with these amendments, which is the inclusion of

[1:31:28] food truck as a separate use, which would be allowed in all of the zoning districts by

[1:31:35] right except the residential zoning districts.

[1:31:39] We've also removed the word residential from in front of accessory structures in the

[1:31:51] zoning district language, none of the other zoning districts include the word residential in front of accessory structures.

[1:32:00] Under Article 3 subdivisions we have included provisions that require third party review inspection and certification of road plans within subdivisions.

[1:32:12] And that would be for both new public and private road subdivisions.

[1:32:17] and the developer would be responsible for any calls associated with that third-party review

[1:32:24] inspection and certification and we've also included language from the Code of Virginia

[1:32:29] regarding the dedication of right-of-way and the county's obligation for installation and maintenance

[1:32:34] of improvements.

[1:32:37] Sections 86-570 and 571 have been amended to provide for county notification to a joining or

[1:32:46] protected property owners for any development

[1:32:49] proposing to utilize a sewage system design

[1:32:51] to have a point source discharge.

[1:32:54] They do receive notification from DEQ,

[1:32:58] but this is an additional notification

[1:33:00] that the county would provide to a

[1:33:03] joining or effective property owners.

[1:33:05] For, in subdivisions, 86-6-14 final plats,

[1:33:11] we've included a provision that the final subdivision

[1:33:15] flat must show whether a lot is being served by a conventional or alternative drain

[1:33:20] field system and sections 86, 626, 627, 627, 628 and 637 for site plan reviews with

[1:33:32] added clarification that the transmittal middle of those plans to state agencies is

[1:33:38] for review and comment only. We've updated the erosion and sediment control plan

[1:33:44] approval authority as the county, ENS administrator, and it provides again for

[1:33:51] notification to a joining our effective property owners for development,

[1:33:55] proposing a point source discharge.

[1:33:58] And then under Article 5 signs, we increase the maximum size of the temporary

[1:34:04] sign allowed in the commercial industrial resort development and

[1:34:07] in development districts from 16 square feet to 32 square feet. And as I indicated previously

[1:34:15] the length of time that a temporary sign may be in place has been adjusted in the definitions.

[1:34:22] And that are all of the proposed amendments under what we are calling phase one.

[1:34:28] There will be more forthcoming. Anybody have any questions for Mrs. Butler? Yes, what's

[1:34:34] including phase two, a lot?

[1:34:38] Not about the same.

[1:34:41] OK, as you're considering phase two, it's not

[1:34:44] your main to phase one today.

[1:34:47] There's an electronic sign that just

[1:34:49] got put up in the district, and quite frankly,

[1:34:51] we don't have any things for existing stores.

[1:34:55] There's no commercial and business land or anything.

[1:34:58] And the electronic sign, when it has certain tones and colors on it, can be seen from about three quarters of my life.

[1:35:10] And it seems to me that in some of these outlying egg districts, maybe we want to be considered of that,

[1:35:18] and maybe think about that as we move forward.

[1:35:21] These electronic signs have a blayer to them.

[1:35:26] And that's the best word I come up with.

[1:35:27] That's not a word I don't think, but it's a, it blast that light out there.

[1:35:33] It just, it permeates, especially when they put a bunch of whites in it.

[1:35:38] It's just, it's a glow.

[1:35:41] I'm going to back Tony, yep, because that, that we do have two signs that are very blinding

[1:35:48] in the Green Springs district, one is two, but two of my churches in agricultural areas.

[1:35:54] Is this yours a church?

[1:35:55] Yeah.

[1:35:56] I'll get another example.

[1:35:58] Yeah.

[1:35:59] And it's in agricultural area and it's just, you can see it for miles and it is blinding

[1:36:03] and one is on 15 and it's blinding to drivers.

[1:36:06] They're not using that one as much anymore but it was rough.

[1:36:10] The other one is Zion over in Zion.

[1:36:14] I'm sorry.

[1:36:14] That's not your main to what we're talking about.

[1:36:17] We need to do something though with it.

[1:36:19] Is it on our radar?

[1:36:20] We will certainly look into those requirements.

[1:36:23] Mr. Chairman. Yes, sir. Mr. Buckler.

[1:36:26] My understanding is the section of this that was changed concerning developers having

[1:36:33] to provide the road studies on their property, including in Gressany Gress. That's because

[1:36:43] of V dot's change in their policy mainly where they have gone away from that, I guess they

[1:36:49] they just laid it that out, sometime ago, and so for us to have that done, it needs to come

[1:36:57] from the developer sending you your verses to you.

[1:37:04] The language has been amended that we won't need to give you as approval to move forward

[1:37:10] with our process.

[1:37:11] So we'll still send it to V dot for review and comment, however, we don't need V dot approval

[1:37:16] because it has been told to us by VDOT that they will not approve these plans anymore.

[1:37:23] So because it was that eyes we couldn't move forward. VDOT wasn't going to change.

[1:37:26] We just needed to make those updates in the code to reflect it and approval isn't required

[1:37:32] for us to move forward.

[1:37:33] That's wonderful.

[1:37:34] Thank you.

[1:37:34] Mr. Chairman, Mr. Coon, I seem, since they won't be approving it, then they won't

[1:37:39] be disproving them either.

[1:37:41] Correct.

[1:37:41] Is that implied?

[1:37:43] We will send it to them for review and comment.

[1:37:45] Just for a view in common, nothing do where they like it or not.

[1:37:49] Very good, no.

[1:37:50] Thank you.

[1:37:53] You should be.

[1:37:54] Just point common.

[1:37:57] On this London, I had a long discussion on these phases.

[1:38:01] This afternoon, I had gotten confused about them.

[1:38:06] But what they're trying, this first phase is to try and make some clarification and to resolve issues

[1:38:15] The Department of Parliament has been having just in the way definitions are not coincide

[1:38:22] with one another in that type of thing.

[1:38:25] The other second and third phase will go a little bit deeper into things.

[1:38:32] But this first phase, I suggest to them actually even before Mr. Furrow did the last rewrite

[1:38:42] to pick things that they will have in the issues with, try to correct those rather than going through

[1:38:51] and end up creating more problems than you fix.

[1:38:55] So this first phase, I think, is initially to try and resolve some of the issues that planning

[1:39:02] staff is having with time flexing definitions and the way it's written in different parts of the audience.

[1:39:09] So the other phases may be getting a little more in depth, but this first phase is just to clarify and clean up some of the problems have been.

[1:39:21] That's correct. The first phase started out as the clarification and everything just like Mr. Marlo indicated.

[1:39:28] And as we started with what we're calling phase one, we found additional items that we needed to do.

[1:39:36] another set of amendments for and then we've had some phone calls with questions about certain

[1:39:43] amendments or certain regulations that we are looking at as well that will provide more information

[1:39:49] as we get through those.

[1:39:52] Anyone else?

[1:39:53] I would like to add two.

[1:39:55] I'm going to stick on the sign issue for a minute.

[1:39:59] Ms. Bartos is exactly right.

[1:40:00] We've had the same discussion where staff is cleaning up some of the ordinances.

[1:40:05] But I do know that the commercial sign size and date, I want to thank you for addressing

[1:40:12] that that came up out of a discussion with groundbreaking and minimal district in January,

[1:40:22] December, November, and there were no, in late November, November, that we found out that

[1:40:28] a business could only put a sign up that was three by three and they couldn't leave it up.

[1:40:32] So I appreciate you addressing that in this current update.

[1:40:37] So staff got on that, and I think that's a reasonable solution.

[1:40:40] And I really don't want to be the guy that powers on churches here, but we had an issue

[1:40:48] several years ago with a church on 522 that put up a illuminated sign permanent sign.

[1:40:58] And they used red and blue, which looked exactly at night, like either a fire truck, an ambulance or a police car, and it was blind and literally blinding.

[1:41:09] And I worked with them, they made some changes to that.

[1:41:12] But my question is, as we move into phase two or three, whenever we start to look at that, in our ordinance on dark sky lighting, which addresses the lights on the building, the parking lot lights, that sort of thing,

[1:41:26] is there a way that we can see if these mechanical signs have to be limited as a number of

[1:41:34] lumens or whatever it would be that it doesn't have, because it sounds like it's countywide

[1:41:40] issue. We can certainly research that and bring some options forward as it moves through the planning

[1:41:46] commission for discussion and we can forward any information that we find to you all as well in advance

[1:41:52] Thank you. Thank you. All right, unless there are any other questions, I'll open the public hearing.

[1:41:59] Is there any one here in the public that would wish to speak on this proposed amendments to the land use ordinances?

[1:42:11] Let's see, I don't see, Mrs. Hart. Mrs. Hart.

[1:42:13] She has her hand up. I know it'll look.

[1:42:15] No, look at that.

[1:42:22] Ready?

[1:42:23] Yes, ma'am.

[1:42:24] We can hear Luis a district. My only question is in the phase two because I did not see it in this current right up.

[1:42:35] I would not be looking at the safety of portable dwelling units.

[1:42:40] We lack of a better term that are supplied by extension cords from built residential homes.

[1:42:49] Is that going to be in there, because what worries me is the fire attribute?

[1:42:57] What exactly is your question?

[1:43:01] What these houses in Lausse that are using their yards for people to move their portable trailers into

[1:43:11] or their cars or whatever. They run extension cords from the

[1:43:19] trailer for lack of a better word or a car to the house and they live there so they

[1:43:25] are we going to be addressing that as far as far code or anything because these

[1:43:33] electrical lies are just running across the ground. You're talking about people

[1:43:36] living in campers and that's what I think. Well that's part of the word. That's

[1:43:43] already out of compliance. If you know something that's happening like that I'd

[1:43:46] just you contact community development that would be against code anyway.

[1:43:51] Well, it's obvious, because it's all the way up and down the way we sort of rode it all

[1:43:54] the other highways.

[1:43:55] I shouldn't have to notify anybody, he's been there forever.

[1:43:59] My only concern is...

[1:44:00] Well, if you're connected to the fire aspect, what if you're that concerned, I think you

[1:44:04] would notify a community development, where it's a complete based response.

[1:44:12] Okay, that's fine.

[1:44:14] So there is not going to be anything in the

[1:44:18] and the report concerning whether this is allowed or not allowed.

[1:44:23] Well, okay, thank you.

[1:44:26] Do you want to address any of them?

[1:44:27] I may address that.

[1:44:29] Thank you.

[1:44:31] In phase one, that's not being addressed.

[1:44:33] That can be looked at in phase two if you make a note of that.

[1:44:37] But as I mentioned to you previously, there is already an ordinance on the books and the

[1:44:42] county that prohibits permanent occupation of a camper or an RV or something like that.

[1:44:49] So if you see, if you see that and have a complaint and part of the reason for that is

[1:44:56] fire hazard safety hazard, they're not up to code for full time.

[1:45:00] That answer

[1:45:04] your question?

[1:45:09] I'm going to submit. Yes, sorry.

[1:45:15] Anyone else wish to speak?

[1:45:19] All right. Seeing now in our close public hearing, come back to the board.

[1:45:23] I'm going to approve, say.

[1:45:25] Been property moved in second and that we approve this ordinance proposal. All those in favor signify by saying aye, aye, any opposed motion passes unanimously.

[1:45:35] I think it's out for the first.

[1:45:37] It was.

[1:45:38] It's the way.

[1:45:39] What is it?

[1:45:41] Because I came in.

[1:45:42] Yeah, it came in.

[1:45:42] I watched it.

[1:45:43] It delays about three or four seconds.

[1:45:46] Next is a resolution to prove a rezoning application.

[1:45:51] R-E-Z-2024-O-7.

[1:45:53] LA Resort L-L-C.

[1:45:55] Applicants owner, a proper amendment request.

[1:45:58] Mrs. Buckley.

[1:46:04] You're going again?

[1:46:06] This public hearing is a request by Lake Anna Resort L-L-C.

[1:46:10] to amend the Prophors of Resoning 2022-05 with the goal of increasing the total density

[1:46:17] of the Planning and Development, condominium portion of the project from a maximum of

[1:46:23] 96 units to a new maximum total of 124 units. The applicant is requesting the 28 additional units

[1:46:31] to allow for a mix of unit sizes that support the development's economic feasibility.

[1:46:37] The proposed 124 units does not exceed the 10 dwelling units per acre density calculation

[1:46:44] outlined in the Louisiana County land development regulations and according to the applicant

[1:46:51] the size of the building will not increase.

[1:46:55] The applicant has submitted an addendum to the 2022 Prophors which I believe has been handed

[1:47:01] out to the board and they are proforing.

[1:47:08] I'll just try to quickly summarize it $500 for each additional unit above 96 within 15 days

[1:47:18] of approval to the foundation of Lake Ann Emergency Services and additional $500 per unit above

[1:47:26] to the foundation for the Fluevanna, and we have a housing foundation within 15 days of approval if so approved.

[1:47:36] And then again, another $500 to the foundation of Lake Anna Emergency Services for each unit above 96 within 60 days of the issuance of the first residential unit occupancy permit.

[1:47:50] And again, another $500 to the Flavanna and Louisa Housing Foundation to be paid within 60 days of the issuance of the first residential occupancy permit for any unit above 96.

[1:48:03] That is approved.

[1:48:05] I will kind of answer any questions and the applicant is here as well.

[1:48:09] Does anybody have any questions, Mrs. Buckley?

[1:48:13] In the applicant is here?

[1:48:14] Yes sir.

[1:48:15] I have the applicant.

[1:48:41] Thank you, Ms. Buckley.

[1:48:43] Good evening, Chair Adams and the Board of Supervisors and Happy New Year.

[1:48:47] My name is Mike Grossman, I am the manager of the applicant LA Resort LLC.

[1:48:52] Staff is indicated our PUD residential condominium density is limited to 96 dwelling units.

[1:48:59] This request before you tonight is to allow us to increase the number of units from 96 to 124 units.

[1:49:06] The purpose of this request is to support a unit mix that will provide the highest degree of likely success

[1:49:12] for market aburption, while still capturing the necessary

[1:49:16] sellable unit floor area needed to support

[1:49:18] the development's economic feasibility.

[1:49:21] And what that basically means is we need to sell a certain type

[1:49:24] of unit that meets the market demand and sell enough

[1:49:26] of them or enough total unit square footage

[1:49:29] to defray the cost of land improvements, utility infrastructure

[1:49:33] and amenities, which are basically fixed,

[1:49:36] and still provide the level of quality we aim to achieve.

[1:49:40] Can I switch to the next slide?

[1:49:43] Is it right here?

[1:49:44] Is it the right button?

[1:49:49] Thank you.

[1:49:52] This exhibit is an excerpt from our approved site plan,

[1:49:55] which shows the condominium buildings footprint,

[1:49:58] massing its orientation overall length.

[1:50:01] It also shows our parking areas.

[1:50:03] We have 236 residential parking spaces highlighted in the pink shaded area,

[1:50:08] which supports 118 residential condominium units per the code.

[1:50:14] We also have a restaurant parking area with 53 spaces of which 41 spaces are required per the code.

[1:50:21] This leaves an additional 12 restaurant parking spaces that we would like to repurpose for residential use.

[1:50:27] They are shown in highlighted and green near the condominium building.

[1:50:30] If we take the 236 residential parking spaces and add 12 for the repurposed restaurant spaces,

[1:50:38] we come up with 248 spaces in total, this would support 124 residential units per the code

[1:50:46] at two spaces per unit.

[1:50:53] This next slide has the same footprint as the previous exhibit

[1:50:56] showing the approved site plan excerpt, but with an added unit layout scheme that includes 96 units,

[1:51:02] including two-bedroom, three-bedroom, four-bedroom, and five-bedroom units.

[1:51:07] Two of these vertical stacks are five-bedroom units shown in pink.

[1:51:13] Each five-bedroom stack has six units, so in total there are 12-5-bedroom units.

[1:51:19] However, our market research indicates that five-bedroom units are unlikely

[1:51:22] to sell at the required price point and absorption rate.

[1:51:26] Our research also indicates that one-bedroom units are needed to support a market segment price point.

[1:51:31] and currently we do not have any one bedroom units in our program.

[1:51:36] We are proposing to swap out the two stacks of five bedroom units and with six stacks

[1:51:42] of one bedroom units and clean up the irregular shape in the middle of the segment of the

[1:51:46] middle segment by adding four one bedroom units.

[1:51:49] This would bring the total unit count from 96 units to 124 units.

[1:51:54] None of these changes are modifications I am proposing, which changed the building size.

[1:51:58] So, we would still be able to maintain the same sellable unit square footage we need to support the development's economic feasibility.

[1:52:10] Here is an excerpt of the exact same building footprint, but with 124 units.

[1:52:17] The 125 bedroom units have been deleted and replaced with 41 bedroom units highlighted in light blue, resulting in an increase of 28 units for a total of 124 units.

[1:52:29] Again, nothing has changed in the building size or orientation with this modification compared

[1:52:34] to the approved site plan or the 96-unit footprint version shown in the previous slide.

[1:52:39] Essentially, what this request boils down to is that we are asking for an increase in 28 kitchens,

[1:52:45] one for each increase in unit count.

[1:52:48] And interestingly, if we went ahead with this particular layout scheme as shown,

[1:52:52] the overall bedroom and bathroom count for the building would decrease by 24 units.

[1:52:59] I don't know if I'm out of time.

[1:53:02] Let me ask you a question.

[1:53:03] Yes, sir.

[1:53:04] You just said that the bedroom and bathroom count

[1:53:09] would decrease by 20.

[1:53:10] You said 24 units.

[1:53:11] I think you mean 24 spaces.

[1:53:14] Because I'm sorry.

[1:53:15] I've met by 24 and together.

[1:53:17] So 24 bedrooms and 24 bathrooms.

[1:53:20] It would decrease.

[1:53:21] Okay.

[1:53:21] Not 24 units.

[1:53:22] Thank you for that clarification.

[1:53:30] If it pleases the board and I have a few more minutes, I'd like to address some of the potential impacts.

[1:53:36] We have identified with an increase in units for schools.

[1:53:42] All of our conversations with prospective unit, purchasers, local real estate agents,

[1:53:47] and our market study team indicate that the purchasers of our units will fall under one of three major categories.

[1:53:53] The first category is active adults who will use the unit as their primary residence.

[1:53:57] This group is defined as those over the age of 55 who and who seek an active lifestyle.

[1:54:04] The second group is second home purchasers.

[1:54:07] This group will purchase a unit for personal use, friends and family, and not interested in renting a unit when not occupied.

[1:54:16] And the third group is vacation home purchasers.

[1:54:19] This group will purchase the unit for personal use and rent a unit when not personally occupying it.

[1:54:24] Can I guarantee that no unit purchaser will use the unit as a primary residence and have school-aged children?

[1:54:31] I know I cannot. However, no research or conversations with industry experts indicate this will be the reality.

[1:54:40] Regarding traffic, traffic impacts are expected to be marginal due to the increased number of units from 96 to 124 per the V dot trip generation manual.

[1:54:49] tenth edition calculation, there is expected to be just an additional 200 trips per day by

[1:54:56] increasing the unit count by 28 units. This is a little over seven trips per unit per

[1:55:02] day. That being said, I think a case can be made that the trip count could actually go down

[1:55:09] with additional units, swapping out the 12-5 bedroom units and replacing them with 36-1 bedroom

[1:55:15] units would result in 24 fewer bedrooms as I mentioned previously.

[1:55:20] Regardless, we contend that any traffic impact from the approval of this request would

[1:55:25] be marginal.

[1:55:27] Fire and EMS regarding impacts to fire and EMS due to the increase in the number of units.

[1:55:33] Set aside the idea that for a moment that the number of total bedrooms may actually go down,

[1:55:39] which means less people in the units.

[1:55:41] I would agree that there are, or maybe a small impact on fire and NMS services and because

[1:55:48] of this, we would be, we would like to proper additional monetary contributions, this is

[1:55:54] Buckler, we went over to review them, but we weren't happy to talk about those as well.

[1:56:01] And again, speaking about the Prophors, I'd like to take a moment to talk about affordable housing

[1:56:05] and workforce housing, like so many communities we have heard from Luis the community leaders

[1:56:10] that providing this type of housing as a major dilemma and although our project is not

[1:56:15] support this type of housing, we are part of the Louisiana community and we like to

[1:56:19] help find a solution and to that end, we like to provide the same voluntary monetary

[1:56:24] contribution.

[1:56:25] We are offering to the foundation of Lake and Emergen Services to the FUVANA, the Louisiana

[1:56:30] Housing Foundation.

[1:56:33] Lastly, revenue impact.

[1:56:36] I would contend that all things mean equal and increase in the number of residential

[1:56:39] units would mean additional tax real estate tax revenue and I think I think that's of course

[1:56:51] of everything is equal. Be more happy to answer any of your questions and I thank you for

[1:56:57] your time and consideration this evening.

[1:56:58] Give me a heavy question.

[1:57:03] Thank you, sir.

[1:57:08] I am, let's remember, uses word.

[1:57:12] I'm appalled at the lack of you standing here.

[1:57:16] Asking for a 29.1% increase in a voluntary proper,

[1:57:21] that you were supposed to have between 72 and 96 dwelling units.

[1:57:25] You went to 96 and you want another 29% more.

[1:57:27] And you come here and make claims like we go from 12 units to 40 units and the traffic

[1:57:33] count is going to go down.

[1:57:36] If you want to be selling 28 additional units for the sum of maybe 28 million dollars and

[1:57:41] you want to offer a poultry fifty-six thousand dollars in profit.

[1:57:45] I don't know where you think that we're a bunch of dumb country bumpkins just got off

[1:57:52] here.

[1:57:53] I would much rather you say we would like to maximize the profits, we would like to put

[1:57:57] morning in our pockets, and that's why we need addition 20 units. Do not come here and appease

[1:58:03] us with these poultry and insulting comments that you have made here tonight, and I'm sorry,

[1:58:09] that's where I am.

[1:58:23] You did mention Mr. Greshman something about Reynolds. If I remember correctly

[1:58:31] in your original CUPUD, it's profit out on short term Reynolds. Correct, they cannot be rented

[1:58:38] for less than seven days which every short term rental around like an is seven days or

[1:58:45] less.

[1:58:46] So that doesn't change.

[1:58:47] So when you mentioned something about rentals, I assume you were talking somebody

[1:58:52] would buy it and rent it on a long term basis.

[1:58:55] Is that correct?

[1:58:56] That is correct.

[1:58:58] Okay.

[1:58:58] I just want to make sure I understood that correctly.

[1:59:00] All right, if no one else has any questions for Mr. Chairman, I have a question.

[1:59:11] Perhaps you can ask Mr. Grossman for me, Mr. Chairman.

[1:59:15] Well, the two are not connected.

[1:59:17] I'm curious if he should get something that he, if we approve this request.

[1:59:24] hypothetically. One would the project be started. Do we have a general timeline on that?

[1:59:33] We've had a considerable amount of taxpayer dollars spent on acquiring wastewater treatment plant,

[1:59:39] and I think part of part of that is, well, it's not contingent on that. We're planning on

[1:59:45] purchasing that and doing what we can to aid development with that purchase, but I think there was

[1:59:51] expectation that there would be a resort project connected to that wastewater treatment plan.

[2:00:02] That's a question. I don't, did you ask a question, Mr. Cotter, because if so, we missed it.

[2:00:08] When's the construction started? Is that the question?

[2:00:16] So today we don't have an exact construction start date. We are working with county staff in regards to the wastewater treatment plant coming online.

[2:00:26] They are in the design phase and we're supposed to have an update in a January early February.

[2:00:30] That is one of the long poles in the tent to have a better understanding when we have

[2:00:36] assurances that that treatment facility will be operational.

[2:00:41] In terms of other factors that impact when we would start, we would have to have a certain

[2:00:48] amount of pre-sales before we start construction and ideally we would start those pre-sales

[2:00:53] in the spring and the spring months to give us the best opportunity to capture the

[2:00:58] of those sales. So our hope was to start pre-sales this spring but one of the long pulls in the

[2:01:05] tent was the wastewater treatment plant so I think that may get pushed until next spring

[2:01:10] at this at this time. That's the idea and our idea is once we start pre-sales we will start construction

[2:01:17] six months after that. So Q3 of 2025 or 26 is construction start.

[2:01:25] And that's it, I can only on the kind of unit or is that on the panel as well.

[2:01:35] Currently we're working on the proposed condominium building.

[2:01:40] We are hopefully having conversations with prospective hotel developers that are interested

[2:01:44] in building hotel concurrently with our condominium building.

[2:01:49] And we are in conversations with the selected general contractor to be able to accommodate that.

[2:01:55] And we are planning for that eventuality where we can build the hotel during the construction

[2:02:00] of the residential condominium.

[2:02:02] That would create the greatest amount of efficiencies for us to be able to do that at one

[2:02:06] time.

[2:02:09] All right.

[2:02:09] Any other questions?

[2:02:11] I don't know.

[2:02:12] I have a question.

[2:02:13] Yes, ma'am.

[2:02:14] So you are asking for almost a 30% increase on units.

[2:02:19] Is that correct?

[2:02:20] Mr.

[2:02:22] Question.

[2:02:23] Question.

[2:02:25] That would rough math in my mind, in my head, yes, that would be almost a 30% increase.

[2:02:31] But again, the building itself is not changing.

[2:02:34] The site plan is not going to, we are not going to have to go through a site plan amendment.

[2:02:38] We're just switching out larger of 3, 200 square foot units for smaller units.

[2:02:43] And essentially, we're asking for additional kitchens.

[2:02:46] The building itself is not changing at all.

[2:02:48] So 3,200 square foot units, 5 bedroom units are going to turn into 3,1 bedroom units

[2:02:54] or 1,000 square foot units.

[2:02:57] But the building itself is not going to change.

[2:03:01] What you're asking about, assuming what it is right now, how much, when you're sliding

[2:03:10] there was something about real estate taxes.

[2:03:13] What's your estimate of how much real estate value is in that building for

[2:03:19] my tax bases for the county?

[2:03:23] I would estimate, assessment-wise, probably, over $100 million.

[2:03:28] And

[2:03:34] that when I hear that question, what is the assessment difference between a five-bedroom

[2:03:45] apartment condo as opposed to reduction to a one-bedroom apartment, and in other words,

[2:03:52] what's the difference between what you currently have and what you're proposing from a tax

[2:04:03] I'm not sure how significant it would be, I didn't run any calculations,

[2:04:09] but if we're changing

[2:04:11] out a 3,200 square foot, 5-bedroom unit, and we're creating 3, 1-bedroom, 1,000 square

[2:04:17] foot plus 1-bedroom units, I'm going to take a leap of faith and say that those 3, 1-bedroom

[2:04:25] It's collectively will have a higher tax base than one five-bedroom unit, you know, how much I would it would be a speculation on my part

[2:04:36] May be

[2:04:38] 600,000 dollars collectively

[2:04:41] for three three one bedrooms over a five bedroom unit

[2:04:47] more yes

[2:04:48] I

[2:04:51] would say three to six hundred thousand

[2:04:55] Anybody else have anything, I thank you, witness to the question.

[2:04:59] We'll open the public comment period, I do have, we

[2:05:09] have one, two,

[2:05:19] so we have an email

[2:05:22] that was submitted that will be by Mike and Valerie Bagbee, which actually addresses both

[2:05:29] of a clearance we have tonight on this one, but specifically addressed, they can't

[2:05:36] resort.

[2:05:38] There are, email will be entered into the public record of the board meeting, and then we

[2:05:44] have one from Chris Andrew, that's from outside of Boise, and their comments will be entered

[2:05:54] in the public record for this meeting as well.

[2:05:56] Do we have any cards?

[2:05:57] We do.

[2:06:00] Phil Winston. I see Phil right there.

[2:06:11] My name is Phil Winston I'm a resident of

[2:06:14] Louisiana County and reside in the mineral district. Mr. Williams, just want to

[2:06:21] remind as you spoke and mentioned the rest of the board, the applicant originally

[2:06:28] asked for 72 units. At the night that this board approved, they also then turned

[2:06:35] around and approved another two stories or another 24 units approved it to 96 units.

[2:06:41] Now the applicant's back looking for 120 units.

[2:06:45] So before construction starts, when's he coming back asking for more?

[2:06:49] When does the hotel become a condominium?

[2:06:52] The hotel that we all wanted when does that become another condominium unit?

[2:06:57] So,

[2:07:01] my original talk tonight was to talk about the road, the road, I'm only concerned about

[2:07:09] one road, as route 208 from Dickerson's store to the 208 bridge.

[2:07:16] I bought my piece of property in 1999 and commercial buildings on that road in 1999 consisted

[2:07:25] of two gas stations and Lake Anna Family Campground.

[2:07:30] Period. That was it. I want another commercial building on that three and a half miles of that road.

[2:07:37] Since that time, now today we're looking at 28 new town homes in the Plaza.

[2:07:43] We're looking at more density at the Lake Anna Resort. There's a new shopping area going in

[2:07:48] between the, I just, I'm sorry, just east of the firehouse.

[2:07:55] That, as a, as a strip center,

[2:07:58] there'd be 130 room hotel,

[2:08:01] plus a restaurant at the resort.

[2:08:03] There's 891 units going on.

[2:08:06] It cut along, plus the additional recreation area,

[2:08:09] plus the golf course, construction traffic for AWS,

[2:08:15] going on Kentucky Springs Road.

[2:08:17] And so far, what is taking place is we've had a foot added to the side of the road, about two inches of asphalt, put on top of it, and a few turning lanes.

[2:08:29] This is unacceptable.

[2:08:31] You know, with every other commercial piece of property that we've now approved, sitting on that road, you cannot handle that traffic.

[2:08:41] Oh, we asked for a speed limit to be dropped from 55 miles an hour on my head every

[2:08:46] got there anyway.

[2:08:47] They dropped it to 50.

[2:08:50] So we need to do something because if not, you're going to see a lot more deaths on that

[2:08:57] road.

[2:08:58] You know, maybe I'm a little prejudiced because I can't get out of my driveway on a weekend

[2:09:04] in particular and a couple thousand more units on that road, a couple thousand.

[2:09:10] And these are ones that have already been approved.

[2:09:13] This is not what's coming before you.

[2:09:14] So we have, we as a board, wow.

[2:09:17] We as a board have to think about this.

[2:09:19] I know it's not your decision, but you have to find a way

[2:09:23] to convince V dot to do something about it.

[2:09:27] Thank you very much.

[2:09:28] Appreciate it.

[2:09:28] Happy New Year.

[2:09:29] Thank you Mr. Winston.

[2:09:31] Next is Patrick Gallagher.

[2:09:43] Patrick Gallagher, mineral district, evening chairman,

[2:09:46] atoms and supervisors.

[2:09:51] I'm on the directors of the Foundation for Lake An emergency services and from my perspective,

[2:09:57] I'd just like to share the developers of Lake An and Resort, Mike Grossman, Mike Garcia,

[2:10:04] have been good corporate neighbors to this to us.

[2:10:09] They've been generously supporting our foundation schools and fundraising for Newbridge Station 8.

[2:10:16] We look forward to their continued support of our community.

[2:10:19] And if I heard correctly earlier, they've indicated they're going to be a continued support of our community community.

[2:10:27] Yeah, specifically our foundation, but also others within Louisiana County.

[2:10:32] And we appreciate that support.

[2:10:34] Thank you for your time.

[2:10:35] Thank you.

[2:10:40] Mrs. Hart?

[2:10:46] No.

[2:10:46] Thank you, Heart, Louisa District,

[2:10:49] town of Louisa.

[2:10:53] I hate to say this, but I kind of agree with Tony.

[2:10:57] Oh, my God.

[2:10:59] Tony, may I hate the fact that you say that?

[2:11:02] Yeah, I know, that's why I said it.

[2:11:04] It was for him, not for the rest of you.

[2:11:07] My position is I know people in this county

[2:11:10] that have no place to live.

[2:11:13] They're staying in hotels with kids

[2:11:16] that other churches are providing for, they're staying at other people's homes, why can't we

[2:11:23] walk the talk here instead of giving money to the housing foundation? Why can't we not take these

[2:11:30] if we approve these 40 units, one bedrooms, and make them affordable housing if they're going to be approved?

[2:11:38] And that's all I have, thank you. Thank you, man.

[2:11:43] Is there anyone else that would wish to speak to the board

[2:11:46] regarding this reason.

[2:11:52] I give it back to you Scott, because I

[2:12:04] don't the his presentation.

[2:12:09] Please.

[2:12:15] Does anybody have any other questions?

[2:12:18] Good job.

[2:12:19] Yes.

[2:12:20] We closed the problem.

[2:12:22] I did.

[2:12:22] Good job.

[2:12:24] I did.

[2:12:25] You know,

[2:12:32] I voted for the project when it came through.

[2:12:35] Um, I understand the dynamics of I get them developing, I understand the dynamics, uh,

[2:12:43] a group that I understand the dynamics that people probably, I really do, um, you know,

[2:12:51] I got, I probably, I thought, uh,

[2:12:57] Jack's, I mean, it's a snout and he's one of the

[2:13:00] original Spring Creek Gav, and I understand some of the products that they started with and

[2:13:05] had to make it flexible for the market and make some changes to make it market. But I'm

[2:13:12] probably one of the guys that talk about the four-ba-house morning in about it. And I

[2:13:18] tell you, real realistic thing about putting no four-ba-house on the lake. Let's be realistic

[2:13:25] about that, okay? In the bad putting them on that. But in joining my partner, Mr. Williams,

[2:13:35] I am going to call it $500.

[2:13:39] I'm be honest with you.

[2:13:43] I'm in support of this party.

[2:13:45] But it throw $500 at a profit is

[2:13:52] beyond me.

[2:13:53] It really is.

[2:13:55] And I appreciate the work that people don't find rescue things that nature.

[2:13:58] And I'm going to bigger four pounds.

[2:14:00] But it throw us $500.

[2:14:03] It's like throwing a cat a big bone.

[2:14:06] and so look at small ball can I can I ask clarification if I'm reading this correctly

[2:14:14] Mr. King I'll look at you because I read it again after Mr. Williams comments it's a

[2:14:21] total of $1,000 per unit over and above 96 to the emergency foundation and a total

[2:14:30] of $1,000 per unit over 96 to the preventable

[2:14:35] of the house of $56,000.

[2:14:38] Yeah, I just, yeah, and 500 at one point

[2:14:41] and 500 at that.

[2:14:41] Well, like, tons of, it's $56,000.

[2:14:44] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2:14:45] And I'm not counting the developed money, okay, that's your job.

[2:14:50] But I can tell you, that kind of profit,

[2:14:54] I'll be honest, coming back, that's very little.

[2:15:00] I'm just going to call it what it is. And I tell you, and you can quote me going forward, in a rezoning, with

[2:15:07] a residential. I'm asking for a photo housing contribution to ward, down payment assistance, rehabbing

[2:15:15] houses, and those are the things that I'm looking for. So, I'm going to reserve my right to vote,

[2:15:24] later on, but I do think that I can't ask for a powerful because it is a law, but I just think

[2:15:32] that that's starting, that's not a start of me.

[2:15:36] Mr. Chairman, yes ma'am, I'm actually, you know, I've been thinking about this and rolling

[2:15:42] this around and reading everything and for the last few days and sitting here and listening

[2:15:48] to Mr. Williams, I agree, I absolutely agree the way it was presented to us and I

[2:15:54] I have to say I do think these numbers in this proper are a little bit low when it is

[2:15:58] pure profit that they are trying to make and everything that Mr. I you have to apologize

[2:16:05] I am not feeling well tonight and my brain has stopped working so names are not coming

[2:16:10] to me but Mr. Barnes just said I agree with you on all points there and stand behind

[2:16:17] you on that. So I am a little bit appalled in the

[2:16:21] proper here. I mean, it is nice to see a

[2:16:25] proper with this in it with some money

[2:16:28] towards affordable housing because we have a

[2:16:30] huge issue in our community. Um, but uh, it's just

[2:16:35] pretty low. Anybody else? Yes, sure. Um, when I was on

[2:16:44] the planning commission this came up and I voted

[2:16:46] against it. I think I was only one it probably did.

[2:16:52] I can't say that I necessarily, and

[2:16:54] I said at the time, that I didn't think there was anything wrong with the plans, what

[2:16:59] they were looking to do. I didn't think there was so much ready for this yet, and I

[2:17:04] think we need to get and have time to get ready for it through improving the roads and

[2:17:11] type of thing. The developer says it's going to be probably a year and a half from now

[2:17:19] before they start. That gives us a chance to get a start on it. So, you know, I'm torn tonight.

[2:17:28] The proffer, I think, is very weak. And so I'm sitting here, not sure exactly what I'm going to do.

[2:17:40] You ready for motion?

[2:17:42] No, no, yeah.

[2:17:48] So,

[2:17:51] so we're almost at the point that we're either going to have a motion or we're not going

[2:17:54] to have a motion.

[2:17:55] We're not necessarily.

[2:17:58] We're there.

[2:18:00] Mr. Grossman,

[2:18:04] I've only done this twice before.

[2:18:05] Mr. Barnes has done it once.

[2:18:08] My grandfather used to say free advice is worth what you pay for it.

[2:18:12] So I'm going to give you some free advice.

[2:18:15] This is obviously a development that's in the mineral district, it was a controversy about 18 months ago.

[2:18:28] Obviously there's some controversy that you've heard here tonight.

[2:18:32] If we vote on something and it doesn't pass on a rezoning, I'm looking to make sure I say this right, it can't come back for a year.

[2:18:40] So that's the free advice I'm about to give you.

[2:18:48] The concern I have, I understand what Mr. William said.

[2:18:55] What you said, what we have designed right now, we can't sell them so it doesn't make financial sense basically.

[2:19:05] and I understand special five, I don't know who would buy a five bedroom condominium, but

[2:19:12] but it doesn't seem like there's a market for that.

[2:19:17] I voted for this in the past, supported it, thought it was the best plan for that piece of property.

[2:19:25] Because what you could do then by right, what you could still do by right, I don't think is a good for that property.

[2:19:32] it all and it's even worse for the for the for the bridge and for the road.

[2:19:38] But I have the same one of the same concerns Mr. Williams has I I did the math so I've

[2:19:42] glad to know that I did the math correctly.

[2:19:47] From the 96 approved units to 124 to 30% increase in number of units.

[2:19:54] This is a lot I'm not just I understand it doesn't change size of the building it's still

[2:20:01] a huge difference in the number of units.

[2:20:06] My suggestion, and this will be your determination because I'm going to ask you to come

[2:20:12] back to the mic and then you're going to tell us what to do in this regard.

[2:20:17] You can ask us to defer a vote tonight and work with staff.

[2:20:25] I'm happy to work with you to see if there's something that would be more palatable to

[2:20:30] board into the neighborhood where you can ask us to take a vote tonight and we'll see

[2:20:37] where that vote would go but I can tell you that I have as an original supporter of

[2:20:42] this and still have people who are mad at me for that vote but I still think that was

[2:20:47] the right vote that night. I can't support a 30% increase in a number of units. So at

[2:20:56] At this point, I need a little bit of direction from you.

[2:21:00] Would you like the board to defer any action on this until future meeting, or would you

[2:21:06] like for us to take a vote this evening?

[2:21:13] Thank you, Chair Adams.

[2:21:16] Could we have a conversation about possibly reducing the number of units in the request to something

[2:21:23] lower than 28 units, is that a possibility?

[2:21:27] I will say that I did hear a comment that this is this is per profit.

[2:21:35] It is not it's it's it's it's the same amount of square footage is just reconfiguring that square

[2:21:41] footage.

[2:21:42] The unit is exactly the same the building is exactly the same size.

[2:21:46] It's just reconfiguring what what we already have in the in the building.

[2:21:50] It's all it is.

[2:21:51] It's not pure profit it's just reconfiguring so we can make it a better a better product

[2:21:57] for the market to absorb.

[2:21:59] That's exactly what it is.

[2:22:00] To answer your question, we certainly

[2:22:03] can have a conversation about reducing the unit size,

[2:22:07] maybe a conversation about your voluntary

[2:22:09] proffers, because we cannot ask you a proffer.

[2:22:12] The board has made it a point.

[2:22:15] I know we can't see Mr. McCotter,

[2:22:16] but Mr. McCotter and I have had several conversations

[2:22:18] about this to try to limit this negotiation back and forth

[2:22:25] at the podium.

[2:22:26] So if you're asking me, it's for a deferral of this vote, so that you can have continued

[2:22:33] conversations with staff about a different number than a hundred and twenty-four, and

[2:22:39] possibly anything that you want to offer, more and more, I would grant that request if

[2:22:45] that's what you're requesting.

[2:22:46] That is what I'm requesting.

[2:22:48] So without objection, we've closed the public hearing, but we will defer a vote on

[2:22:53] this vote.

[2:22:53] No, I don't think we will.

[2:22:55] We might make a motion to defer a vote and we might vote on it, but no, we won't just categorize yourself, but I'm moved to defer action on this to later date.

[2:23:06] All right.

[2:23:07] I'll second that.

[2:23:10] I'll support that.

[2:23:11] We're going to vote on tonight.

[2:23:13] It's just a game.

[2:23:14] All right.

[2:23:15] So the motion is to defer this vote to a later date and let the applicant come back and confer

[2:23:22] or staff on some changes in their proposal.

[2:23:26] all those in favour of signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Aye. All right, motion passes

[2:23:33] six to one. No, it's five, too. The McCarter was McCarter referred against it. Yeah.

[2:23:38] He said aye. He had four of the motion. Four to four. All right. So we'll have you work with staff

[2:23:45] and we'll bring us back to that other time. Thank you very much. Next is

[2:23:53] a resolution to approve a

[2:23:55] Attorney and Application Resolution 2024-07 LA Resort, no, I'm sorry, that's what we just did.

[2:24:04] Our RP 20 cut along consolidated abandonment and have dedicated right away for public use.

[2:24:10] It's just see order.

[2:24:11] We want to do these end, Mrs. Buckley.

[2:24:22] All right, yes, ma'am.

[2:24:29] Good evening.

[2:24:31] This public hearing is a request for a vacation and abandonment of existing recorded

[2:24:36] right away from RP-20 cut-along consolidated LLC at the November 14th, 2024 meeting, the planning

[2:24:46] commission confirmed conformance of the project with the 2040 comprehensive plan regarding

[2:24:52] road improvements and approved a private road waiver request from the applicant to facilitate

[2:24:59] development objectives to allow the development to proceed with private roads rather than

[2:25:07] roads that will be, come, state and maintained. The request this evening is pursuant

[2:25:13] to section 33.2-915 of the Code of Virginia for the abandonment of right of way dedicated to

[2:25:19] the county for public use on recorded subdivision plats, including the right of way known as

[2:25:25] long drive, Tatum Drive and Emily's way, per the state code when the

[2:25:31] rose deemed by the governing body didn't be no longer necessary for public use.

[2:25:36] It may be vacated by the governing body and with the approval of the private

[2:25:40] road waiver by the Planning Commission, it is no longer necessary for the right

[2:25:44] of way to be held by Louise the County. This request does not include any

[2:25:50] right of way shown on those recorded subdivision plats and dedicated to the

[2:25:54] on wealth of Virginia, along Route 208, Newbridge Road, and Route 652 Kentucky Spring

[2:26:01] Roads, and applies to the internal subdivision road network only the vacation and abandonment

[2:26:10] of the rights of Wade designated for public use will line with the shift to privately owned

[2:26:15] and maintain roads within the development and will permit private maintenance of the roads

[2:26:20] by the Association and the developers provided draft documents that will be recorded, which

[2:26:27] will provide for the future maintenance of that internal road network.

[2:26:30] And those draft documents are included in your packet.

[2:26:35] I'm sorry, Ms. Buckler.

[2:26:36] I was distracted there for a moment.

[2:26:39] Did you say that this would start at the state highways on Kentucky Springs and 208, including

[2:26:45] the entrances and everything would be private?

[2:26:47] Everything in turn will be private. It does not affect any right-of-way that was shown on the

[2:26:53] Plats that have been recorded so so the dedicated right-of-way in the turn lanes was still be there

[2:26:59] Exactly, but that and they will also be privately maintained

[2:27:03] The anything with that was dedicated to the Commonwealth of Virginia or from from the dedication line in

[2:27:12] Right, so if there's a 50 foot dedication or whatever it is from the dedication line in will be

[2:27:18] private and from there out will still be maintained by Vida.

[2:27:22] Right.

[2:27:22] Built by them, maintained by Vida.

[2:27:25] Thank you, ma'am.

[2:27:27] Any other questions from Ms. Martin?

[2:27:29] Thank you, ma'am.

[2:27:30] I got to come.

[2:27:31] Thank you.

[2:27:35] This is the way development should be done.

[2:27:37] It's a series of glorified driveways.

[2:27:41] It's all subdivision road.

[2:27:42] Isn't it?

[2:27:43] Commonwealth should not be burdened with the maintenance of it.

[2:27:45] So, I'm going to start off with the thank you for this one.

[2:27:50] I saw him catch their breath when you said you had to do this.

[2:27:54] Lord, that's kidding over here about the vice chairman.

[2:27:57] That was good.

[2:27:57] That might have been fine.

[2:27:59] All right.

[2:28:00] That's my question.

[2:28:02] Mr. Wash.

[2:28:03] I know.

[2:28:05] I'm just interested in this one.

[2:28:07] Okay.

[2:28:09] Good afternoon.

[2:28:10] Good evening, Mr. Chairman and supervisor.

[2:28:12] So thank you very much.

[2:28:13] My name is Joe Walsh. I'm the project director for Cut-Long and I'm a resident of Spotsold

[2:28:19] India County. There's two items on the agenda and I thought first as this project's been on the

[2:28:24] books for quite some time and entitled since 2005 I would offer a quick update on the project and then

[2:28:31] address the right way and then the second item.

[2:28:36] This is our land development team. Mr. Payne is our

[2:28:46] We're very lucky because they were the original environmental engineer on the project.

[2:28:50] There are civil engineer, there are landscape architects and they've had the history of the project.

[2:28:58] Nathan Kaiser is our environmental compliance manager and project director.

[2:29:03] Nathan's been here since Reef has been here on the project director.

[2:29:08] Here's the history.

[2:29:09] The 2005 is when the master plan was approved.

[2:29:13] Our company is Reef Capital Partners.

[2:29:16] We are out of Lehigh, Utah.

[2:29:19] The company was a lender and then acquired the property in 2018.

[2:29:24] A lot of time and money went into building the golf course, which was completed in 2021.

[2:29:30] As you probably know, all the utilities that cut along are privately maintained and developed

[2:29:34] by Reef.

[2:29:36] Nathan has been working diligently on that.

[2:29:38] We're happy to say here in 2024, we've completed the wastewater plant, we've completed the water.

[2:29:45] And then we had a great event this summer, it's the first project that we have.

[2:29:50] The Cuddle on Golf Team has been operating out of a temporary area.

[2:29:53] We're happy to have the clubhouse under construction.

[2:29:57] And then that should open up.

[2:30:00] A little bit about us. We are a developer. We're also a resort operator. The company has three key projects. The first one is Black Desert. Black Desert is a vacation destination in southern Utah for folks that live in the Salt Lake City in Utah area.

[2:30:15] Marsala is a project at the New Dear Valley Extension and then our project cut-long.

[2:30:21] We will be branding the resort as Tributor Resort.

[2:30:24] Cut-along will always be the name of the golf course.

[2:30:27] And a Tributor is a minor that gets a part of the take of what they find.

[2:30:32] Historic term.

[2:30:34] More to come on that.

[2:30:36] The other project is a Quorumat at Dear Valley.

[2:30:38] Maine and Skies and Salt Lake City.

[2:30:41] And then I'm sorry, is in Park City.

[2:30:43] And then Coco Pong, Coco Pong is a resort if you're an Elvis Presley fan, it's where Blue Hawaii was filmed.

[2:30:50] The project has been in a dilapidated state for years, Reef is rebuilding the project.

[2:30:58] We're very fortunate to have Mrs. Johnkin come to our groundbreaking in the groundbreaking.

[2:31:03] You can see the original rendering of our clubhouse, happy to say our contractors ride on schedule.

[2:31:09] Mrs. Johnkin basically has photos of the partners, the Reef is a privately held company.

[2:31:14] and the partners have been very active and are very bullish on Wisa County and very happy about the investment that they've made here.

[2:31:24] As an operator and a developer, we have a strong commitment to the county.

[2:31:29] I'm new, the company's been here for four years.

[2:31:31] We've embraced the Lake Anna EMS, the Gallagher's and us were working on the future programs.

[2:31:37] We're benefit, we have the benefit of a golf course to provide to help raise funds.

[2:31:41] We are the home course for the Weez Accounting high school golf team and then we're also

[2:31:47] continue to work with LACA to raise funds to improve the quality of water in Lake

[2:31:52] Annabelle.

[2:31:55] Sports Tourism is a big agenda item for the Weez Accounting in Mr. Coon.

[2:32:00] We've worked diligently to have prior projects but now that we have the Club House and

[2:32:06] we'll have units to stay in, we'll have some good synergies to work with Miss King and

[2:32:11] their cone to drive sports tourism. And then we have the goal is to hold the state high

[2:32:18] school golf championship and then also really to work on grants. So there are grants

[2:32:23] through the Virginia tourism corporation that will work cooperatively with Liza County.

[2:32:30] And then as far as a right away abandonment, I'll call off Mr. Pain.

[2:32:41] Thank you, Joe. Mr. Chairman, I know the members of the Board of Supervisors,

[2:32:45] my name is Charlie Painter, Representative Applicant, Happy New Year to you.

[2:32:49] It's always a pleasure being Louise Accounting.

[2:32:50] Thank you for your hospitality.

[2:32:52] I'm not sure I can add a whole lot more than what Joe has already presented

[2:32:55] and what staff has already presented.

[2:32:58] This right away request aligns with the Planning Commission's determination

[2:33:01] that the waiver request was consistent with the comprehensive plan.

[2:33:05] It's also consistent with your zoning ordinance in regards to

[2:33:09] requests for waiver for private roads.

[2:33:12] So that's what our request is today.

[2:33:13] And as Mr. Williams noted, this is not any publicly dedicated

[2:33:17] And VDOT roadway, if you will, this is self-contained within the development and basically

[2:33:24] with you primarily used by the residents and also by the guests who come to cut

[2:33:28] along.

[2:33:29] So with that, I'm happy to answer any questions you have to appreciate your time to see

[2:33:32] me.

[2:33:32] Anybody have any questions for Mr. May?

[2:33:35] Anybody have any questions for the applicant?

[2:33:38] I have one question.

[2:33:39] It's very petty question.

[2:33:40] Will you pickleball there?

[2:33:43] Pickleball.

[2:33:43] You'll see that in presentation.

[2:33:46] to the modifications to the master plan, yes, ma'am.

[2:33:49] Oh, OK.

[2:33:50] Thank you.

[2:33:51] Thank you.

[2:33:52] All right, so I'm going to open the public hearing.

[2:33:55] So this public hearing is specific to the abandonment of the road system

[2:34:00] from the state system into a public road system,

[2:34:05] a private road system, not about the master plan change.

[2:34:11] So this public hearing.

[2:34:12] So I have Mr. Gallagher. I think you actually probably want to speak about the second public hearing. Jack Snyder, I don't see where's Jack.

[2:34:23] There, okay, I couldn't see you. I think you're probably wanting to speak about the second, okay.

[2:34:29] So that's all of these. Mrs. Hart, do you want to speak?

[2:34:35] Thank you.

[2:34:35] And is not all right. So I'm going to close the public hearing and bring it back to the board.

[2:34:41] I'm going to start moving forward a second.

[2:34:46] I'm prompting moved and seconded that we approve this proposed amendment ORD 2024-13.

[2:34:54] Any further discussion?

[2:34:56] All those in favor of signify by saying aye.

[2:34:58] Aye.

[2:34:58] Any opposed motion passes unanimously?

[2:35:02] All right.

[2:35:03] Now, we're on to the last public hearing, which is a resolution to approve rezoning application

[2:35:10] and REC-2024-06 or P20 cut-in-one consolidated LLC applicant, which is a review of a proper

[2:35:20] and master plan amendment, Mrs. Buckley.

[2:35:24] Yes, sir, Chairman Adams. Again, this request is for a proper and master plan amendment to the

[2:35:32] original master plan that was approved in 2005 with REC-062005.

[2:35:39] They're have been several minor amendments that were done administratively to the plan over the last 18-19 years, but this will.

[2:35:54] The proposal is to increase the number of estate lots, condos, villas and townhums while reducing the number of executive and cluster lots,

[2:36:03] But maintaining the total of 891 units, that was approved with the original master plan.

[2:36:10] It also includes a change in the road network from the publicly dedicated roads to the private maintain road network.

[2:36:19] A summary of the proposed changes is listed in your board packet on page 290.

[2:36:25] And again the applicant is here to answer and provide additional information on the proposed amendment.

[2:36:32] and staff is also available to answer any questions.

[2:36:36] Thank you.

[2:36:37] Ms. Buck, I just want a couple of clarifications

[2:36:39] because I'm not the smartest person up here.

[2:36:44] So, they're going to take the number of single family homes.

[2:36:50] Detach single family homes and decrease that.

[2:36:54] And increase the number of townhouses.

[2:36:58] Is that right?

[2:36:59] The number of townhouses will be increased, sir.

[2:37:02] But the number of units will be the same. We're not taking a five-bedroom home and making

[2:37:07] Five-one bedroom townhouses, are we?

[2:37:11] Yes, sir. Okay. I just want to be clear. Yes. Um, and then I guess the

[2:37:19] We approved

[2:37:21] the roads

[2:37:22] But now we need to approve it as an amendment to the master plan. Is that why that's included in there? Yes, sir. Okay

[2:37:29] Is there anything else in this other than those two items the applicant will be able to explain?

[2:37:35] They've done some rearranging of from the original master plan of the location of the designated unit

[2:37:41] So sort of sort of sort of sticking someplace else on the property

[2:37:46] There's no other changes. Correct. Thank you, man

[2:37:50] Any other questions from Mrs. Buckler?

[2:37:53] All right, thank you, Mrs. Buckler

[2:37:57] So we'll open the public

[2:37:59] There was no, the applicant doesn't want to come back, I'm sorry.

[2:38:05] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[2:38:11] We have to pickleball.

[2:38:13] You don't eat so what are we doing?

[2:38:16] So the master plan was completed by Mr. Mendelssohn in 2005 as a golf community, as a residential

[2:38:23] golf community.

[2:38:25] It's a fine master plan for that.

[2:38:27] What we would like to do is focus on having the project be a destination resort where we have

[2:38:34] larger mix of rental units that we have in designated areas in control in a more robust

[2:38:40] amenities for off-lake activities. You can see some of the activities. Our goal is to

[2:38:48] have a more robust program so that when our guests are there, obviously Lake Anna and

[2:38:54] Lisa County are why they're coming here, but we want to have reasons for them to stay.

[2:38:58] get out of their car,

[2:39:02] let it not too fast.

[2:39:11] I lost a slide, well anyway, I'll add a lid.

[2:39:14] So what we've done is created a network of trials,

[2:39:17] and the trials basically will connect

[2:39:19] all the different communities.

[2:39:20] We've also put a lot of nice pocket parks.

[2:39:23] So the pocket parks will give open space and green belts.

[2:39:26] And then the goal is with the roads being private,

[2:39:29] anyone could get on a bike, get on their car,

[2:39:32] or drive on a golf cart, and go from the from their home

[2:39:36] to the different activity centers.

[2:39:38] Feedback from the community, we've worked closely with LACA.

[2:39:42] We've spoken with their neighboring HOA's

[2:39:45] and other community for input.

[2:39:48] The first one is LACA had asked us to ensure

[2:39:51] with our nutrient credits for our wastewater plant

[2:39:54] to do them on site.

[2:39:56] So actually, it was a great idea.

[2:39:58] We were able to do it efficiently.

[2:40:00] So all of the nutrient credits for this project benefit Lake Anna.

[2:40:03] It did have us take an area south so you develop some wetlands preserved it and made a nutrient bank on site

[2:40:11] Yes, sir, and we put it took the crits yourself and applied them to which we're doing to offset the wetlands

[2:40:16] You had to mitigate

[2:40:18] We're not interrupting wetlands. We were improving them

[2:40:20] But yes, we're doing all the nutrient credits on site good in a big part of them are 75 acres of

[2:40:27] Conservation area and it's the area south of contour and creek

[2:40:30] We also did a tour with the Laka Group to look at the Altria wetlands facility, where they

[2:40:38] had come up with a quite extensive wetlands facility to basically help cleanse the industrial

[2:40:43] waste that comes from that project.

[2:40:46] And we've added wetlands to the site, it's worked out quite nicely, because we can put

[2:40:50] our trails and our bridges around that area.

[2:40:53] Feedback from the community, the biggest concern is from Laka, and the community is both

[2:40:58] traffic on Lake Anna. As you see, our little tributary there. Contrary Creek actually extends

[2:41:04] through that whole area into Lake Anna. We don't have the world's best lake front area,

[2:41:09] it's a little more limited. So the concern was 891 units, you know, 891 boats would be problematic.

[2:41:17] We basically have made sure and agreed with Laka that we wouldn't have a boat ramp on site.

[2:41:22] So basically, our members would be using a remote boat ramp or renting from us that is there at the facility.

[2:41:32] We also aren't putting a petrol station there.

[2:41:35] And then the other concern was making sure that there's no public access via boat to the restaurants.

[2:41:41] And we've agreed to do that.

[2:41:43] Mitigating other neighborhood impacts.

[2:41:45] We basically, as I said, removed the density south of Contrary Creek, so that's part of the shift that was all single family residential.

[2:41:53] We did isolate the pickle ball courts to the spot that they belong.

[2:41:57] So if you have seen pickle ball throughout America, it generates a noise that's really fun when you play, but if you live near it, it's not fun.

[2:42:05] So we were able to put it in a location by extending this phase that is closer to the golf course, it might disrupt golfers,

[2:42:13] But it's away from our neighbors and away from our residential place.

[2:42:17] We have a proper for dark sky ordinance.

[2:42:20] We're big advocates of dark sky ordinance.

[2:42:22] So of course we'll meet that.

[2:42:24] And then this master plan is Ms. Buckler had said previously there had been adjustments to the master plan.

[2:42:29] The waste facility was right next to the neighbors.

[2:42:32] It was put in the proper place.

[2:42:37] And then as a last slide before I show the updated master plan,

[2:42:40] We've basically come up with two nodes.

[2:42:44] So again, we have 891 entitlements.

[2:42:46] We're not asking to increase it.

[2:42:48] We're just moving the inventory around.

[2:42:50] In the center area is the clubhouse.

[2:42:52] In the clubhouse fall area, we're adding town homes to that area.

[2:42:56] And then near the lake, we have a more robust program.

[2:43:00] And then that area will have more off-water activities.

[2:43:03] And you can see the maintenance and utility infrastructure.

[2:43:05] We've moved that from where it was to contact or to Newbridge Road, so that'll be have less large trucks coming through the resort to make it safer for our guests and then there is no change to the commercial activity area.

[2:43:21] It's the food line and that there's no change that.

[2:43:25] And then I'll have Mr. Pain address the master plan.

[2:43:36] Thank you Mr. Chairman, the members of the board.

[2:43:38] My name is Charlie Paine, represent the applicant.

[2:43:41] Joe is doing a wonderful job, not sure why he's asking counsel to come up here.

[2:43:45] But I just would just add that in your packet of staff noted the various different changes

[2:43:51] of the use as a Joe is talking about the cap stays the same 891 units that doesn't change

[2:43:57] at all, changing this mix in our opinion gives us an opportunity to have a more viable

[2:44:02] project which will enhance the ability for a destination location which enhances terrorism,

[2:44:08] which inevitably hopefully enhances a positive tax revenue for the county as well.

[2:44:13] But the mix in addition to moving many of the pieces to get around as Joe had explained,

[2:44:20] it comes out to 147 estate units, 34 executive 198 cluster,

[2:44:25] and then 312 condo village units and 200 towns.

[2:44:29] In addition to the spa on the clubhouse and the lake amenities that in pedestrian trails at Joe had noted.

[2:44:34] The other important piece of this is obviously the private roads that we had noted earlier

[2:44:40] the planning commission had addressed back in November, and of course the vacation

[2:44:43] the right away was all part of that process too.

[2:44:46] So, the roads are all self-contained within the development, as Mr. Williams noted earlier,

[2:44:50] primarily used by the residents and the guests to decide, and they'll be maintained by the

[2:44:55] H.O.A. and by the developer, so taxpayers won't be paying for those improvements

[2:44:59] or the way to make it.

[2:45:00] And it's a repair for this register. So, although not I'm happy to answer any questions you haven't. Appreciate your time to see. Mr. Wolge.

[2:45:11] The strike to the bottom is restaurants and retail sales. Is that going to be private as well, limited to just the guests or the restaurants be open to the public?

[2:45:23] Our goal is to have a private community, but we'll have rental units, so anyone that's renting a unit is the general public as welcome.

[2:45:30] So the boat traffic coming to the restaurants really not a big deal because if you're not staying on site

[2:45:38] You you're not allowed to come use the restaurants and facilities and I'm assuming the reason we're making the roads

[2:45:44] Probably which is perfectly fine is because we're going to have a gated community. Yes, sir

[2:45:50] So entrance won't be just coming and going you'll have to have a rental or be a member of the golf club or something to get in

[2:45:58] is that accurate? Yes, it will be, you know, professional, there will be a

[2:46:02] greeters hut, possibly a transponder on one side, and then everyone

[2:46:06] common would be greeted if there are guests coming to stay at the hotel, they're

[2:46:10] directed to where to go, if there are resident or a member, they can just buy

[2:46:13] pass with a transponder. Okay, thank you. Any other questions?

[2:46:20] Mr. Chairman?

[2:46:23] Yes.

[2:46:24] Mr. President.

[2:46:25] Mr. McArthur.

[2:46:28] Yeah.

[2:46:28] I'd like to ask that on Mr. Walter's question.

[2:46:31] Do we have any rendition or tradition of the stripe an area as a supervisor Williams noted?

[2:46:39] Can we see that or Mr. Walter describe what that will be looking like?

[2:46:45] Specifically dimensions and kind of the mixture of what we're going on there.

[2:46:48] There's contenders.

[2:46:49] We'll be going there as well.

[2:46:51] Sure, Mr. Macotter.

[2:46:52] We're currently a conceptual plan.

[2:46:54] We've had a couple different versions, but our goal is to have some golf activity, town

[2:47:00] homes that are on the third hole, and then condominium villas that are affronting the middle

[2:47:06] of the project with a spa that will be adjacent to contrary creek, and then between the lake

[2:47:14] and the condominium villas would be what's about about a football field in the half of

[2:47:21] a pretty much activity area where you'd have pool, maybe a pool bar, volleyball, sand, and items

[2:47:28] like that. Did I answer your question, sir?

[2:47:35] Well enough. Do we know how many stories those

[2:47:38] villas would be? There's all just like one story type of buildings. It'll be a mixture of where

[2:47:48] three story and four story. I think the code recalls for 60 feet. So it can't be greater than 60.

[2:47:55] We have no intention of asking for variances for setbacks or variances for building height.

[2:48:01] And then of course we've engaged a very talented architect. So we wanted to look architecturally

[2:48:06] pleasing in the building, massing in the way we do it will be quite nice and fitting to the

[2:48:12] argument.

[2:48:16] I don't want to speak for Supervisor Williams, but I'm probably sure that he's

[2:48:20] happy that he's not going to be coming back asking for any experiences. Thank you Mr.

[2:48:23] Walsh. Thank you, sir. Any other questions?

[2:48:28] All right, we'll open the thank you, Mr. Walsh. We'll open the public hearing. I do have two letters

[2:48:35] that came in. One is from Mike and Valerie Bagley, from the mineral district,

[2:48:45] which basically

[2:48:46] a poses, which will be entered into the record. One is from Terry Wood, Vice President

[2:48:53] like Anna Division in Northern Virginia, Tattole and Escuro, which is in favor from

[2:48:59] a, which will be entered into the record. Do you have a card for Jack Snyder?

[2:49:14] Good evening. Fitz? Hey, Jack. Here we are again. I've got a long run with Louise

[2:49:21] county back back in 1985 Mr. Schneider just introduced yourself in Europe. Jack Snyder,

[2:49:30] Mineral District, 423 Laurel Wood Drive, yeah, we're good, I live from my daughter. Yeah,

[2:49:38] a pure stone happens to be a golfer, right? So when I'm the golfer, a professional at Lake

[2:49:42] Monad Chelope here, so I played golf together and next thing, you know, he's my banker. So

[2:49:47] he funded me while I was the golfer, a professional at Lake Monad Chelope.

[2:49:49] come to 2006 and bits and I run into each other at Spring Creek and in here I am

[2:49:57] again getting along in the tooth but see a lot of a lot of promise in this

[2:50:04] property and I don't want to hang up my hat so the changes they're going to make

[2:50:10] the main facility being moved is absolutely really going to help the whole

[2:50:19] be completed when we get the clubhouse and so forth will be an amazing thing for the weddings

[2:50:24] and whatever events that tend to want to come our way and maybe some of the bigger events

[2:50:29] that we hope to host down the road and then our stay in play units are, I won't say

[2:50:35] a critical but it's really going to be a big, big boost for what we can attract at Cuttle

[2:50:40] and then and then benefit the entire community. So I don't know. I'm here as a

[2:50:49] director of golf. I love what I do. I see that this is absolutely the, I don't know,

[2:50:56] I wish I was younger. This is an amazing property. While you probably may choose to live there

[2:51:02] or not, you can always staycation there and it will be the time of your life. It's Disney world, I believe.

[2:51:07] So looking forward to it.

[2:51:10] Thank you.

[2:51:11] Thank you,

[2:51:15] sir.

[2:51:15] That Gallagher.

[2:51:26] Good evening, Mr. Chairman.

[2:51:29] Supervisors.

[2:51:30] I'm still Pat Gallagher.

[2:51:32] Still Pat Gallagher.

[2:51:33] I'm still one of the directors of the Foundation for the Kennedy Emergency Services.

[2:51:39] I don't know.

[2:51:40] I just reach him in the age of Jack.

[2:51:42] It's pretty good, so.

[2:51:44] Hang in there.

[2:51:49] I just wanted to speak to the impact that kind of like Anna has had on the foundation, you know, from our perspective how they positively impact our community.

[2:52:01] I hosted two fundraising golf tournaments.

[2:52:02] you saw in a picture of a slide there for the benefit of new bridge station eight.

[2:52:09] And my wife Jane sitting back there is a well in the planning of a third tournament which

[2:52:13] is coming up this year on May 20th.

[2:52:16] This collaboration with Cuttle Long has resulted in raising $20,000 in $20,000 in $20,23,

[2:52:22] $28,000 last year.

[2:52:26] And of course that accelerated our ability as a foundation to provide matching funds to the

[2:52:31] county for the purchase of new ambulance in 2023 and for a fire and rescue boat in 24.

[2:52:41] Last year, our foundation nominated Catalong for the Louisiana County Impact Awards hosted

[2:52:47] by the Louisiana Ford Foundation, the Chamber of Commerce.

[2:52:50] The Awards recognized key supporters and made significant contributions to advancing nonprofit

[2:52:57] missions through financial support, volunteers, and

[2:53:01] towards strategic partnership.

[2:53:03] We're delighted to continue our partnership with

[2:53:06] Catalong and just wanted to ensure that you all knew

[2:53:10] what generous neighbors they've been and their positive impact

[2:53:13] on both our organization and local community.

[2:53:17] Thank you.

[2:53:18] Thank you, Mr. Gallagher.

[2:53:19] So, I do not have any more courage.

[2:53:22] Is there anyone that would wish to address the board during this

[2:53:25] Yes, sir.

[2:53:35] Mike Sharpe, a mental district, full-time resident at Freshwater States, also a number of

[2:53:43] cut-along.

[2:53:44] I think, membered number 26.

[2:53:47] So obviously I am very invested and care deeply about both the communities there

[2:53:51] will be in and the development itself.

[2:53:55] I think I should first say, we would not be here in my wife and I, this would not be

[2:54:00] our retirement home if it were not for cut-along.

[2:54:02] and for Reeves commitment to coming in and finishing Mr. Clark's off course and I go

[2:54:09] off course community. I think what it brings to this lake like in a community as a whole

[2:54:15] is tremendous and something we never have had here before. With respect to the amendments

[2:54:22] to the master plan, I would hope the Board would certainly consider approving those tonight.

[2:54:28] I appreciate the concerns raised by some of my friends and neighbors, concerns about

[2:54:33] vote traffic, and activity across the creek, especially from fresh water, but from

[2:54:40] my perspective, these changes do not have a negative impact on our community, the Lake

[2:54:45] Anna community, or just the overall role nature that we love so much about this area.

[2:54:52] I think the changes, the shift to more stay-in-place fits within the business model that

[2:55:01] reef is doing.

[2:55:02] I think it takes less stress off of the roads, the schools, and boat traffic in particular

[2:55:08] on contrary creek.

[2:55:11] And I think most importantly, it addresses many of the issues that have been raised by LACA

[2:55:15] and by the community over the last few years.

[2:55:19] just real quick with respect to beef capital.

[2:55:22] I've got to know these folks very well

[2:55:24] over the last four or five years.

[2:55:26] I've been to Utah.

[2:55:27] I've seen what they've done at reef out there

[2:55:30] at Black Desert.

[2:55:32] The recognition they received for all of their

[2:55:34] environmental efforts.

[2:55:35] And I think they bought that same approach

[2:55:37] to Lake Anna.

[2:55:39] I've gotten to know Nate.

[2:55:42] Joe as well.

[2:55:43] I've seen all the hard work they've done

[2:55:45] to try to perhaps fix some of the sins of past developers,

[2:55:50] working with the county, working with the state and regulatory agencies.

[2:55:55] I've seen how they've worked with our community, with the Dredgen plan.

[2:56:01] So for everything, they have done, and for this area,

[2:56:06] I seriously would like to echo what I think.

[2:56:09] Laka has already said, I believe these are good stewards for the community,

[2:56:13] for the development around this lake. So I hope you will consider improving this amendment tonight.

[2:56:21] Thank you.

[2:56:21] Thank you, Chair.

[2:56:25] Mr. Wayne.

[2:56:34] Even Mr. Chairman and the rest of the board.

[2:56:38] We lack I had not planned to make a statement tonight.

[2:56:41] I'm John Wayne up from the Mineral District.

[2:56:43] I normally speak to you representing lack.

[2:56:46] I had not planned to make a statement tonight for or against this, which is normally our stand anyway.

[2:56:53] But I just wanted to speak for a minute about the group of people who have submitted this

[2:57:00] plan to you because in all the dealings and you know I have lots of dealings with developers

[2:57:05] in this county and spot of any county, a little bit in orange.

[2:57:10] I've never worked with people like this before.

[2:57:13] They want to know what's on our mind, they want to know what our constituents think,

[2:57:18] what

[2:57:20] They get in your truck, and they ride down to Chesterfield, and they take a look at a wet

[2:57:24] lands project.

[2:57:25] You know, with you, so that, you know, they understand what you're talking about with regard

[2:57:32] to the concerns that you have, you know, this second wastewater treatment plan of theirs

[2:57:37] is going to put a fluent in Blackwater Creek.

[2:57:40] And we ask them if they would consider putting that in a wet land, instead of right

[2:57:45] in the creek, so it would have a chance to percolate.

[2:57:47] some of the phosphorus and nitrogen would get out of it for a methamethe Creek.

[2:57:53] And they've done that.

[2:57:54] So, you know, just about everything that we've asked them to do,

[2:57:58] they've tried to find a way to do it.

[2:58:01] And so, you know, I'm only going to take three minutes here,

[2:58:05] because I'm speaking for me personally.

[2:58:08] I would support this.

[2:58:09] I support this personally, and I think you got to support this move.

[2:58:13] Thank you very much.

[2:58:13] Thank you, Mr. Wayne.

[2:58:15] I don't have any other cards, is there anyone else that would wish to address the board?

[2:58:23] All right, seeing that, I'll close public comment.

[2:58:25] Bring this back to the board.

[2:58:28] I do have a comment, but do anybody else have a comment?

[2:58:32] Yes, sir.

[2:58:33] Mr. Chairman, thank you.

[2:58:35] I've been fortunate enough to go down and play golf.

[2:58:38] It cut along.

[2:58:40] And I remember it's Spring Creek.

[2:58:43] So, you know, that's kind of where my bar is set.

[2:58:46] But I can tell you, it is an amazing golf course, and for it to be in Louisa County

[2:58:54] it's just beyond my 70 years living here, I just could have never imagined.

[2:59:02] And it's all now going to make it a destination.

[2:59:07] It's unbelievable.

[2:59:08] It's somebody who travels with the group every year to play golf in destination

[2:59:13] that that's going to be available. I mean it's thank y'all for being so professional and being in Louise

[2:59:19] the county. Yes, ma'am. Well, I'm not a golfer. I don't think I've ever held a golf club. I'm in a

[2:59:28] question. I'm on a horse every weekend. You too. Give me a horse. I'll be fine. I have to say what I was

[2:59:35] really impressed with tonight. I've heard some fabulous comments, but the fact that you support our

[2:59:39] in our county, that you support our high school golf team, that you want to host the championships

[2:59:47] for the state for, I just think that's phenomenal and that gives back to our community and that

[2:59:53] raises our youth up and that's what I really have a passion about. So I really thank you for that.

[3:00:02] Any additional comments? I have two. One, I do want to thank Mr. Wash, Mr. Payne, for your work, not just with

[3:00:14] County staff, but with me as the district supervisor,

[3:00:21] the investment that you've made in our community,

[3:00:24] not just financially, which is large, but with our residents, with our citizens, with our

[3:00:30] foundation for emergency services. I have proven you to be a great corporate

[3:00:35] party. I think this change is a beneficial change to your resort. I

[3:00:44] unfortunately I have had a golf club in my hand and I should stick to

[3:00:48] writing horses but it is a premier development in the Wies of County and

[3:00:56] and Reef has invested millions and millions and millions of dollars there in elsewhere in the county.

[3:01:03] And so we're appreciative of that.

[3:01:04] We're appreciative of the professionalism.

[3:01:08] I'm supportive.

[3:01:09] I'm going to let Mr. Williams make the motion in a minute because I don't make a motion.

[3:01:14] I am supportive of this change in full transparency.

[3:01:20] I would point out that part of the investment that you've made in this county

[3:01:24] is Reef has bought the complex at the boardwalk.

[3:01:29] I own a business at the boardwalk,

[3:01:31] and our only business relationship is I pay you rent every month.

[3:01:36] You are my landlord, Reef is my landlord, so in full transparency,

[3:01:40] I will disclose that.

[3:01:41] That will not prevent me from voting on this tonight.

[3:01:45] Mr. Chairman, I'll move.

[3:01:47] We approve the Mr. Mayor's submit.

[3:01:50] Second.

[3:01:50] Then properly move in second that we approve rezoning application or EZ 2024-06, all those in favour of signify by saying aye.

[3:02:00] Aye.

[3:02:01] Any opposed motion passes unanimously, Mr. Barnes.

[3:02:05] So, well, thank you.

[3:02:06] Then properly move in second that we adjourn all those in favour signify by saying aye.

[3:02:11] All those opposed meetings adjourn.

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