[0:20] Please

[0:24] have a roll call. Yes. Mr. Chapman. Ms. Guthrie. Here. Mr. Harry Navar. Here. Mr. Bunkarner. Mr. Ziegler. Yes. Miss Raceus. Here. All right. Okay.

[0:44] So I believe we

[0:56] So first up, we have a presentation from Stacey Hans from Kentucky Transportation Cabinet

[1:02] regarding current and upcoming Kentucky Transportation Cabinet projects and initiatives

[1:06] affecting love low.

[1:11] Good evening everyone, as was stated, my name is Stacey Hans and just a little bit of an update

[1:15] to the agenda.

[1:17] I'm here really to focus on the existing Bridge Bridge corridor projects, not all of the other

[1:24] to my PC issues within the area.

[1:26] So, really am just focusing

[1:27] on the Brent Spence Bridge corridor project.

[1:30] Obviously it's under construction.

[1:32] Now, I do have a PowerPoint presentation.

[1:35] You'll be turning my back as you all,

[1:37] but I do feel like with everything that's going on,

[1:40] the visuals that are being provided,

[1:42] I think will help aid in the conversation.

[1:46] Let's see, there we go.

[1:47] All right, so just a quick project overview,

[1:49] and thank you guys for being flexible

[1:51] because I know we've done a different,

[1:53] a couple different iterations for the presentation.

[1:56] But just as a reminder of the project overview,

[1:58] the Prince Prince Bridge corridor project

[2:00] in its entirety is approximately eight miles.

[2:04] So three miles in Ohio, five miles in Kentucky,

[2:08] with the construction of a new companion bridge immediately

[2:12] to the west of the existing Prince Prince Bridge,

[2:15] and rehabilitation of the existing Prince Prince Bridge,

[2:18] taking that current four-lane configuration,

[2:20] being able to re-stripe it back to three lanes with the introduction of shoulders back to its original design.

[2:28] So the Brisbane Bridge was originally designed to carry 80,000 vehicles per day because of the increase in traffic.

[2:35] It was re-striped. The lanes were actually narrowed to 11 foot lanes.

[2:38] If you drive it on a daily basis like I do, you know it's kind of a white knuckle area, right?

[2:44] So with this project, we are able to recapture those shoulders and

[2:50] restripe it into the three-link configuration and the existing Prince Prince Ridge is what will carry the local traffic.

[2:57] So on the slide there, you see that we are constructing a CD system or what we call a collector distributor system between 12th street on the Kentucky side, so right there's you're going down the cut in the hill, all the way to

[3:10] So, Glen Street in Ohio, and at that point, your decision is if I'm going through traffic,

[3:16] I'm going to go on the new bridge.

[3:18] I'm going to be able to use our new double deck structure carrying five lanes of interstate

[3:23] traffic in the northbound on the top and five lanes on the bottom.

[3:28] If I want to go to Covington or Cincinnati, I will enter that collector distributor system

[3:33] and that's where I can get off into Covington and that's where I can get off into Cincinnati.

[3:37] that traffic will also be coming from those areas

[3:39] on that collector distributor system.

[3:42] So the intent of that is to improve safety.

[3:44] By having the traffic coming in and off and off

[3:47] the interstates on the collector distributor

[3:50] that allows the interstate traffic

[3:53] to have more of a free flow condition.

[3:55] If you've been in like the Chicago area

[3:57] where you have your express lanes

[3:58] and your local lanes, very similar concept

[4:00] to improve the safety aspect of the corridor.

[4:03] We are also improving bicycle and pedestrian facilities.

[4:08] You know, when we're talking about this corridor, a lot of times we talk about the main line or the interstate system.

[4:13] But there are communities underneath and adjacent to the corridor.

[4:19] And we are working with, you know, in our situation, the Steve, coming to on our side,

[4:23] to look at opportunities to improve the multimodal cross connectivity.

[4:27] For example, improve my sickle facilities, improve pedestrian facilities.

[4:32] If you've been in Goble Park and walking to the west side, you know that underpass at the southern end at night streets pretty dark.

[4:38] We're going to improve lighting in that area, just one example.

[4:43] As we continue on, this is just a pretty picture of what it's going to look like to cross the bridge at the nighttime.

[4:48] It is a double deck cable stay structure.

[4:51] We have several types of bridges in the northern Kentucky Cincinnati area.

[4:56] We do not have a cable stay, but this cable stay is even a little bit more unique than some

[5:00] of the others that you've seen up and down the Ohio River on the Kentucky borders.

[5:05] It is an independent deck to tiered cable stay bridge.

[5:10] And what that means is if you've seen some of the others, the decks themselves are actually

[5:15] connected by steel members.

[5:16] So very much like driving our existing corridor or existing bridge when you're on the bottom deck, you feel like a little tight.

[5:24] It's impeding your view. The cables is all that's connecting that lower deck on our bridge. So you have a little more of an open view.

[5:32] Just as I said, we are trying to make it a little more unique to our area. Just taking it up just one more notch.

[5:39] I want to talk quickly about the work in progress.

[5:42] I'm sure that you guys are very familiar.

[5:45] I should say very familiar with the work that's going on

[5:48] in the exits to and from Covington right now.

[5:51] But just a little bit of an update on where we are.

[5:54] And I want to highlight that if you're familiar with this picture

[6:00] or what you've seen in this picture, it seems a little bit of

[6:02] may seem a little bit out of sorts.

[6:05] because that is the Pete Rose ballcat at the Clay White Bayley.

[6:09] I assure you we're not building the bridge at the Clay White Bayley.

[6:11] It is just adjacent to the existing Brentsman's bridge.

[6:14] But this is a tied air on the area for the barges

[6:18] to help deliver equipment and material.

[6:20] So where it's a staging area, it's being constructed.

[6:23] It's really actually pretty close to being done,

[6:25] so that we can start receiving material and receiving equipment.

[6:28] You see some of the cranes, some of the cranes have already been brought in from that area.

[6:32] It will stay out there throughout the duration of the project, but it is just a holding area.

[6:37] All of the construction is happening just west of the existing Brent Spence Bridge.

[6:42] As far as roadway and ramp improvements that we have going on, we have the reconstruction

[6:46] of Bullock, which is the local connection on the west side of the interstate, of course.

[6:51] But that ties directly into Martin Luther King, 12th Street entrance ramp to get on the interstate.

[6:56] So that's closed right now as well as the MLK northbound ramp to the coming to an areas.

[7:03] We are looking to get block reconstructed, be able to reopen those ramps.

[7:10] The reason that we're doing that if we're thinking about the corridor itself, we've started

[7:14] on the west side.

[7:16] We've moved those local streets a little bit further to the west and re-aligned those ramps

[7:22] to the future configuration.

[7:24] Our next steps will be to do the same thing on the east side of the interstate.

[7:28] So move Simon Kittenway further to the east.

[7:32] Will Lockwell be open, Simon Kittenway will be closed to allow that wider footprint in

[7:36] there, and then we will start working on the main line and the bridges in that area.

[7:40] So just a little bit of fourth thought into what that phasing is going to look like as we

[7:44] move forward.

[7:46] And then a really a lot of the other work that we have going on right now are utility

[7:51] updates when we're looking at water line replacements, sanitary sewer, some of the just infrastructure

[7:56] improvements that we need to do before we can start the rest of the roadway. Obviously, a lot of

[8:01] work going on in Google Park right now, that's to help with soil stabilization. If you've built things

[8:07] in this area, you know, we don't have the best soil, but we have a lot of roadway work that's going

[8:12] on in there, so we are actually doing mechanisms that will help stabilize that soil. So some pilings,

[8:21] lot of just firming it up. And then last but not least is the red detour of the realignment

[8:29] of the Kentucky Riverwalk.

[8:32] I'm sorry, I apologize. So, you know, I've spoken about some of the

[8:37] activities that are going on, but I just wanted to show one more visual of what is currently open.

[8:42] What you like to say that green means go. So green is what you have open and what you have access to

[8:47] right now. Red is showing what is closed. You can see at the bottom that is all of the work

[8:52] associated to that Bullock Avenue on the west side, as well as the access to and from Martin Luther King.

[9:00] We have what you see on number six is the local street for night street.

[9:05] That's to help with access to the park, to the work that's going on there right now.

[9:10] And also to prevent using that as a cutthroat because it is a residential area.

[9:14] We don't want a lot of traffic filtering through there that would not otherwise be there.

[9:18] And then the only other one that I wanted to point out,

[9:21] Which I do think is significant for this community is the number seven that we have there and it is not currently closed

[9:28] But is the seventy one seventy five

[9:32] Southbound ramp to fifth Street right now when you're coming off of fifth Street in the Southbound direction

[9:38] You have the option to go west, which is the one I would assume that you guys use most

[9:44] But you also have the option to go east down into Philadelphia

[9:48] That ramp will go away as part of the construction of this project, but there's also that local connection in the west to the east, so in the east bound direction from Crescent Avenue to 5th Street, that's that local street underneath, that will also go away during the construction of this, but that access goes away permanently.

[10:10] So that traffic will be will be routed and utilize third street, which they're looking

[10:17] coming to is looking to make third street more of that connection of course with all

[10:21] of the development going on with their former IRS site, their CCR development.

[10:28] Just as it heads up, like I said, I feel like that was something I wanted to point out to

[10:31] this community.

[10:32] That now in the in the bill of condition, the ramp will actually come back and it's a left

[10:39] hand exit, but I just wanted to highlight that that local street connection goes away.

[10:46] That's an excellent question, and right now, because Third Street is closed, and Third

[10:53] Street is closed because of that utility relocation, and we're actively working on that.

[10:58] When Third Street opens is when Fifth Street will close.

[11:01] We have to make sure that we provide east-west connectivity, obviously, right?

[11:06] So we will not close Fifth Street until Third Street's open.

[11:10] I can't give you an exact date, it will be this fall and I will, I would say it's probably

[11:15] going to be September, late September timeframe maybe October and we'll see how aggressive

[11:21] our contractors can be.

[11:22] All right.

[11:25] So I just want to confirm that if you say there will be both closures, but there so will be

[11:30] access to get off in Kevinton, just they'll be one.

[11:34] Yeah, there will be at one, that's what I, like I said, I think it's important, I can't

[11:37] really back up with this one.

[11:38] I'm sorry.

[11:39] Maybe I can't hold on to it.

[11:42] You got it right there.

[11:43] There we go.

[11:44] No.

[11:48] There we go.

[11:50] So the access from 71 South, about 7175 South bound

[11:54] into the eastbound direction, or excuse me, westbound direction

[11:57] to present, it stays open.

[12:00] So you don't have that one, we'll stay open for them.

[12:03] And it's actually, when we close Fifth Street,

[12:06] that local connection in that ramp,

[12:08] that is designed to detour.

[12:10] The signed detour for everyone entering Covington

[12:13] will be to go off that ramp, upcress it,

[12:16] and then across third and then disperse through Covington.

[12:22] I appreciate you guys asking questions.

[12:24] It's a lot to absorb.

[12:26] And when I say it's a lot to absorb, I understand.

[12:29] And that's why I really want to highlight this slide

[12:32] as much as anything.

[12:34] And I may have to go behind you to do this

[12:37] because it just takes us to a project website.

[12:42] And I need to get it out of the presentation and onto the website.

[12:46] So the overall project corridor website is rentspencebridgecordor.com

[12:52] and there's a lot of knowledge on that website.

[12:56] I think

[13:36] it might have changed, you know, it should have been three, I

[13:45] don't know, it is

[13:46] no, no, no, should

[13:53] have happened to it.

[13:55] If you said technology is great, yeah, it works, yeah, I will try one more time, but I think

[14:05] if you, yeah, just what I'm talking about, it's going to work, that's what I was going

[14:10] to say.

[14:10] So if we have a project website that is for instance bridge corridor dot com, I encourage

[14:17] you to get on the website on the top. There's a banner of tabs across and one is the travel

[14:22] on updates. Get on there. If you're looking at it, that's where you're going to get your travel

[14:30] updates. That's where you're going to get your travel advisories. It is divided out into impacts

[14:34] in Kentucky and impacts in Ohio. And then even outside of those, it has short term and long term

[14:40] closures. So I encourage you to get on there. I also encourage you to scroll down

[14:46] to the bottom of that page and there's an opportunity to sign up for emails

[14:50] and for text messages. So that's when if there's a major closure you will get an

[14:55] email blast or you will get a text blast. We just sit one out for an upcoming

[15:00] So I, so it will give you a vocal hi when you're talking, when you sign up for that. But I promise we're not going to, we're not going to give you overkill on your text messages. I think so far, even with all the work going on, we may have, we're in then maybe like this 7-8 range as far as how many that's gone out. So those are the major closures. But I will also say the other thing that I really wanted to highlight for you all. And I can show you here, just a little bit quickly, yeah. On the website, there is this tabring.

[15:29] here that says tour project virtual route. That is set up as if you were walking into, I'm sure

[15:38] we've all been to public meetings before, where you have the boards, you have the displays,

[15:41] and you're presenting information. That walks you into a virtual setup of that. It's almost set

[15:47] up like you were at the previous Duke Energy Center. So you have a board in front of you, you have

[15:53] different things that you can click on to the sides and to the front, that you can click on into

[15:57] the sides in the front are the fly-through videos. If you guys have seen the fly-through videos

[16:01] of our core and work, there's the Ohio fly-through, there's the bridge itself, there's the Kentucky

[16:06] portion, and then you have the entire core part. So you can get in there and you can poke around.

[16:12] There's also set up as a display in front of you. That display is divided up into the very sections

[16:17] or components of the project. So there's the Cincinnati side, there's the Main River crossing,

[16:21] There's the Covington area, there's the Covington Hill area, and then the Port Rite

[16:27] for Mitchell area.

[16:28] So you can click on each one of those.

[16:30] And for each one of those, there's a little button that says plan view.

[16:33] Plan view will give you the bird's eye view.

[16:36] So as if you're standing up and looking down on it.

[16:39] So you can see all of the movements there.

[16:42] If you click out of that or if you go back to that display board, you're going to see little

[16:48] pins that have drones on them and some that have cameras on them. If you can click on the drones,

[16:54] it will give you a 360 view of that area. If you click on the picture, it will give you just a

[16:59] rendering of what that area looks like in the final configuration. As a project manager for the project,

[17:07] I use that website on a daily basis. When I'm talking to people, I'm a visual person myself.

[17:15] It's so much easier to explain things to show what the link configurations are going to be to show what the

[17:20] It's that Rams are going to look like in the future conditions

[17:23] So I would encourage you to get on our overall project website and that button has a separate website because it's pretty

[17:31] It's it's an odd it's an odd kind of

[17:34] Address so I just click I'd encourage you to click that button and go from there

[17:41] And then last but not least I

[17:44] would like for you guys, like I said, to follow the project.

[17:48] I mentioned our text messages, our emails,

[17:51] also every different kind of social media that you can think of

[17:55] to get updates on the project and share that information

[17:59] because as part of the project team,

[18:03] we understand that the project is going to be a long project.

[18:07] It's going to be a lot to work through.

[18:10] We all live, the Kentucky team, all those in Kentucky.

[18:15] We travel this corridor on a daily basis.

[18:18] I would ask that everyone have patience

[18:22] as we work through the project, but most importantly,

[18:24] I would ask that you guys share the sources of information.

[18:28] Because to me, the most important thing

[18:29] that I can walk away from today

[18:31] is giving you guys the source of information

[18:34] so that you can go back and always have the most current,

[18:37] most up-to-date information that we know

[18:39] coming from the project team.

[18:43] I did have my contact information on the last slide but my contact

[18:53] information I do work for the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet, so it's just off the

[18:57] I don't know if I've spent some time in Melbourne now,

[19:00] because that's a project site as well.

[19:02] But it's STACEE.HANS at ky.gov.

[19:10] If anyone would like to reach out with questions.

[19:12] Yeah.

[19:13] Stacy, one more question, I'm sure it's for you.

[19:15] If we have questions I want to reach out

[19:17] about the impact that we've made or may not have it with Raleigh,

[19:21] can we reach out with additional questions to you?

[19:23] Absolutely.

[19:23] Or do you have any information, this KYTC

[19:26] you believe that there's going to be an effect to the traffic on Route 8 as a result

[19:31] of the Red Spence Gorda project.

[19:33] Yeah, so that's one of the things I did want to point out in the project.

[19:37] So in the future condition where Third Street ties into Crescent Avenue and that obviously

[19:42] turns around and comes into a highway avenue.

[19:45] In the future condition, it is not a three-way stop and it is not a traffic signal.

[19:50] It is designed for that to be around about, which will help facilitate the movement of that

[19:55] traffic.

[19:55] And then as far as the footprint of the existing,

[19:59] of the Vredspin stretch corridor project,

[20:02] we don't go far beyond where the lobby gate

[20:06] or that lobby entrance, for this west lobby entrance is.

[20:11] So as far as impacts, physical impacts,

[20:15] to can take you to route a,

[20:17] we're not experiencing that, we don't plan that.

[20:20] As far as what traffic does on a,

[20:23] even what happens now,

[20:24] or even what happened a year ago before we even started this project.

[20:28] We are encouraging people to find, to follow ways, to do the way finding.

[20:33] We know that sometimes that puts them in places that they shouldn't be.

[20:36] But I will say that we are working very closely with the freight community, the freight and logistics

[20:41] community, including those at Cincinnati, North Kentucky, airport, North Texas, and Air

[20:46] Port, CBG, and really working with them to encourage their freight and their logistics

[20:51] it spokes to use 275.

[20:54] And we're working with, even the freight,

[20:56] if you didn't know, the freight community

[20:58] has their own way finding system.

[21:00] And we're working with them to encourage them

[21:02] to use 275.

[21:03] So really, that's where we're trying to push everyone.

[21:06] If you see the detour signs,

[21:07] if you're heading in the northbound direction,

[21:09] you're gonna see the orange signs,

[21:11] the detour signs at 275.

[21:13] So our goal is to minimize the people that are in the corridor.

[21:17] And I know we've had a lot of references

[21:19] to the 2020 bridge fire, but keep in mind that during the 2020 bridge fire, there was no access across the bridge fence.

[21:27] They called the middle, no one's driving through. With this project, we are keeping the existing bridge open

[21:33] until the new companion bridge is ready to come online, then we'll move traffic over there,

[21:39] do that restriping that we've spoken about before we're able to have the whole corridor open.

[21:44] So, yeah, I want to make sure that, because I looked at that, I looked at the red fire and that was a lot, I don't want that to be everyone's point of reference.

[21:53] Do we have any other questions for Stacy?

[21:56] I would just love to ask Stacy to continue to come back and update us around the process, I think that would be great.

[22:03] And then, mayor, my question to you was going to be how, like, what strategies can we put in place to make sure that we're getting this information out for residents,

[22:12] whether it be, you know, as we're getting different travel advisories, can we

[22:16] have Jenny Millen put that on the digital sign, talking about them here at

[22:22] council, just trying to think about different ways that as those different

[22:25] phases are happening, we can communicate those. I think it'd be great to say in touch

[22:30] with you, to keep us absolutely up to date on and then we'll definitely

[22:34] disseminate that information out to our residents. I totally appreciate that ask.

[22:40] I

[22:40] I said the next item for y'all be aware of is the work associated with fits street will be in that configuration for a couple of months, and then right now our target is in a November beginning of December for another major or another traffic shift will be able to start opening some of those ramps, and we'll that's when you know we'll have others that will close so definitely keep in mind for that timeline, so that's great. Thank you.

[23:22] Next up, we have a presentation from Will Weber from Southbank Partners on a Riverfront

[23:26] Commons update.

[23:29] So, take a little different approach now I have in the past here, so instead of a song

[23:34] and dance in presentation, you have, I believe, a two-pager in front of you.

[23:39] Just given you an overview of different projects, Southbank Partners is working on with the city.

[23:44] Obviously, Riverfront Commons is the signature piece, I broke that up into a couple categories

[23:49] for you, so I will not read this to you at Nazim by any stretch, but just give you a little highlight

[23:54] real here. So as it pertains to the Riverwalk, phase two we are wrapping up right now with some

[24:02] landscaping and working through a lighting design for phase two and as from Adela to Hooper Street.

[24:07] We met last week onsite with the superintendent to go through exactly what that landscape plan

[24:13] looks like on their side of the fence to avoid the windscreens and for any longer than I think anyone

[24:21] would like the windscreens to be at. So working through a landscape plan for that to take place

[24:26] later in September to get that in place we are working through design contracts for lighting

[24:31] that's going to be a much more involved process whatever the standard is set there we would continue

[24:36] that through phase one and work out any type of lighting solutions that the city may want for the park

[24:41] So before any decisions are made, we're going to be going through just preliminary design to get that feedback.

[24:46] And that will actually help not only just the city of Ludlow, but help set the president for other cities as well.

[24:53] See here, so phase three, we haven't talked much about phase three in the past.

[24:57] This one is really looking going toward east.

[25:00] So from the end of Hooper Street where phase two terminates at,

[25:03] seems to what was the cul-de-sac of Hooper Street,

[25:07] and progressing east towards Carneal, Ohio.

[25:12] Right now, very preliminary looking

[25:14] at the topography in that area, because all of the streets

[25:17] that run to the river, terminate at the river.

[25:20] If you're not going, excuse me here,

[25:24] let me work on my geography here.

[25:26] If you go beyond the street, there's

[25:28] very limited area before you're going down the hillside

[25:30] towards the river.

[25:30] So right now, very preliminary research

[25:32] to understand that area and of course any type of community engagement talking to any potential

[25:37] residents or businesses that might be impacted with whatever that preliminary design would be

[25:42] is to get their feedback and their willingness to participate to continue to see the river walk

[25:47] through. So at this point I always like to emphasize before there's a map or a line of where do you

[25:53] want it to go and how is it impacting my property? I'd like to talk and have a conversation with you

[25:58] first. That way, it's a little more public engagement face.

[26:01] Well, on the, on Hooper Street to Carneal, yes, are you talking, going front of spatties?

[26:08] So at this time, we would like to be able to go as close to the rivers we can so we'd be

[26:14] on the back side of spatties and continue to fall that way. But really, it's based on

[26:18] the participation of spattie and residents as we go around the building. Yes, that would

[26:24] be the preferred route, but I forget that John might be, isn't it?

[26:28] What?

[26:29] The gentleman who had spatting.

[26:30] I don't know who it is.

[26:32] The neighbor introduced me to him briefly once, so I haven't had enough conversation.

[26:36] I could say, ideally it would be nice to go on that side, just given the public right

[26:40] of way, you know, with or the sidewalk, just being able to have a dedicated path, but

[26:43] there are time frame on that base.

[26:45] There is not.

[26:46] I believe our engineer flew the drone the last couple of weeks to get a better understanding

[26:51] in the photography, so we can put a, I'm gonna say,

[26:55] I wouldn't even put a pen on paper.

[26:56] This is more pencil on paper to start the conversation,

[26:59] sit down with him and say,

[27:00] here's what we'd like to do.

[27:01] Are you willing to work with us on here?

[27:03] Here's what we would need in order for this to happen,

[27:05] so a lot of engagement through there.

[27:07] So the part that's finished behind the football stadium,

[27:11] I know there were a lot of trees cut down,

[27:14] are those gonna be removed, or is just gonna lay there?

[27:17] The ones that were just dropped through there?

[27:20] So, right now, let's see here, we have figured

[27:26] out the best way to answer this question.

[27:28] So, yes, they would be removed.

[27:30] Some when they were cut down was, I don't know, woodchipper, woodmove, not the landscaper

[27:38] by any stretch, as you can imagine.

[27:39] So, they will be removed in such a way that there will no longer be larger logs there, so

[27:47] So addressing that piece, but also, I believe he is a subcontractor that

[27:52] stuffed grinder to eliminate those.

[27:55] The reason why I asked is a lot of it.

[27:57] When it floods, the water is going to take it down river.

[28:02] Yes.

[28:02] It could be left here on the side.

[28:04] Yes.

[28:04] Wherever.

[28:05] Yeah.

[28:05] Through that way.

[28:06] Yes.

[28:07] I think I wanted to say this was Tuesday of this week.

[28:11] We were bolting down all the benches and trash cans and saw from the last storm.

[28:16] Looks like a couple of trees had lost branches and died through there

[28:19] So I met with Shane and we were going through different ones

[28:22] They need to be cleaned up so the next time he's down there will clean those up and then address

[28:27] The remaining wood that's down

[28:29] I want to call it the cross country browned if you will for the school

[28:39] Remaining trees, but yes, great question

[28:51] So let's see here. And then future phases here, I mean, we've got to go further east towards

[28:56] West Street and West Coveings and further west into the Vue Park and making those connections

[29:04] through there. So phase 4, 5 and 6 are certainly a longer term. Those are part of the design

[29:08] for the raise grant. If and when, we finally get an agreement from the FHWA and if the

[29:13] Stacy still here and she can pull some strings for us, everybody to help us sign an agreement

[29:19] for friends in DC. On those phases you spoke of the 456. Is it like five years out, 10 years

[29:27] out, 15 years out? I would say our, I know it's hard to guess that. I think design would be reasonably

[29:35] in 12 months, once we establish what the design looks like and where it's gonna go, then it becomes a

[29:41] funding conversation, so 3 to 5 optimistically in that area to get phase

[29:53] 5, I'd say 3 to 5, phase 6

[29:56] It's probably going to be five plus,

[29:57] depending on what that looks like.

[30:00] Through here. So park improvement wise, so just helping close things out this fall. I mentioned it earlier, I think, right before the meeting started working with our artists right now to finalize a mural map designed that would be replicated in each of the cities at the Riverfront Park. So on the side of the restrooms left storage, slash concession building on the east side that would face.

[30:30] You got it. You were having a lot of peace and cues here. So it'll face that side.

[30:36] We're doing a pilot one right now in Newport near where the former hooters, your seller location was.

[30:41] Once we find tune that, we'll be able to replicate that and have a good point of interest.

[30:45] And hopefully an Instagramable moment for people to take pictures.

[30:48] And then, what else to highlight through here, let's see.

[30:54] So for a trailhead perspective, so differentiating between the river walk, the park and the trailhead.

[31:00] Typically, a trailhead is where you're driving to to stop, get out and walk or bike on the path.

[31:06] So one ask I have, because I know there are many, many priorities in a budget and any fiscal year, is if the city would prioritize or consider prioritizing,

[31:17] paving the gravel log in that area with curbs and drainage solution because I

[31:22] know anytime it rains which it seems like this summer we have had torrential

[31:26] downpours in a short amount of time that a lot of that gravel is going on to the

[31:30] river walk and walking through here so that would be a nice chair on top of all

[31:34] the improvements in that area is to get that one teed up and finish there. Once

[31:39] that is complete we do have a part of our amenity package is bike racks and

[31:43] like repair stations and more landscaping in that area.

[31:46] So as you come to the end of Adela,

[31:48] you have arrived to the riverfront park

[31:50] and the river wall and all these connections through there.

[31:52] I've got a question on the reinstall

[31:54] River Stage lettering.

[31:56] Yes.

[31:58] Is it gonna be called the same as it is now?

[32:02] Yes, there was this additional

[32:05] initials that need to be added, right?

[32:07] Yes, because I got received the

[32:10] or I had a conversation with Doug Martin, he had contacted me and he wanted to make sure

[32:16] something was put in place to make that permanent that could change, you know, years down the road.

[32:21] Yes, that is a resolution that I need to come before.

[32:25] That can happen.

[32:26] Yeah, in order to...

[32:28] I think you can do a resolution but I don't know that you can make a, you know you can name it for now

[32:36] but I know that you can permanently

[32:38] bind future city councils from changing the name

[32:42] like in 50, you know, plus years.

[32:44] Well, he's concerned he donated $50,000

[32:47] and he just wants to make sure that name won't change.

[32:50] I think it's reasonable.

[32:51] Don't know that we can guarantee.

[32:53] It's a reasonable.

[32:54] I think I can understand why they're asking

[32:56] but I don't know that the statute's permit

[33:00] a permanent binding future councils

[33:05] from not doing something different in the future.

[33:12] I'll just ask that you check into it and there's something to be done.

[33:16] I think it should be done.

[33:20] We're the name can't change.

[33:27] I know as far as the letter goes.

[33:29] It was H-gordon in the film.

[33:31] That's right.

[33:32] And unfortunately squeezing those two in in the current configuration.

[33:35] We just said we're going to take it off, clean it up,

[33:37] and make sure both those so that same H-gordon film at S

[33:41] is replicated on a plaque.

[33:45] That way, they're both that way, so get it teed up for them.

[33:50] Let's see.

[33:51] So finishing up page number two here.

[33:55] Different things we've talked about in the past, you know, increasing the opportunity for the city to become.

[34:00] They have a question on the trailhead section.

[34:03] You almost said your quote a bit.

[34:04] Okay, we'll talk.

[34:06] All right.

[34:07] which will be the black topping of the parking lot at the end of the

[34:13] villa in time frame on that. I defer that to the seat.

[34:19] That's what we just asked for it. We would pay that and I usually believe that

[34:23] we have already. We have already so put forward for the payment.

[34:26] Have we cornered that out?

[34:31] Have an estimate as to how much that would cost.

[34:33] We estimated it in around, I would say, 5 to 8,000.

[34:37] That if it's more than that, then how much do we think more?

[34:41] I'm thinking that's going to be probably closer

[34:43] to your 40,000, 50,000 range.

[34:44] Oh, no, that is all of the budget.

[34:47] OK.

[34:48] So that was one where I would say between,

[34:50] you get more competitive vids around like February

[34:53] Marchtime Frame, like a spring project,

[34:55] and any type of design work between now and then,

[34:58] I would suggest contacting, when you all contract,

[35:01] that was the city engineer to just evaluate to make sure when it is paved whenever that time is

[35:07] in the curves but there is drainage solutions put in place so you're going to have to

[35:11] daylight that out beyond the river walk and when you put the curb in you can eliminate the need for

[35:15] the pilings between the parking lot and there so is there is there any way to utilize the raised

[35:21] agreements in order to make that happen?

[35:29] My gut instinct is doubtful but I don't want to rule it out

[35:32] So let me see.

[35:33] Yeah, let's check into that piece, see what I can figure out there.

[35:37] And I would say, when that gets paved by top,

[35:43] maybe look at a way to design something to hide the dumpster.

[35:49] It's kind of unsightly.

[35:50] We're planning to move the dumpster, I believe.

[35:53] I think, let me double check.

[35:55] I'm going to check the chain and what we can do with the dumpster.

[35:58] But we did discuss moving that dumpster away from that side.

[36:06] So I was mentioned about connectivity to the higher river, so one thing, I think over

[36:10] the last couple months, the mayor and I have exchanged some emails with the folks at

[36:14] the higher riverway, given the increase in demand for having kayak launches and opportunities

[36:19] to get on the higher river is exploring some opportunities of where those could take place.

[36:24] If we could get it permitted from the core that way, the community doesn't have to drag to

[36:28] a different city or a different state in Ohio, but you can actually get on the

[36:32] highway from Lando. So it's still an exploratory phase there. One other future

[36:38] project here from a business district connection perspective. Since we've

[36:43] looked at arterial connections with Adela and Traverse Street is the

[36:48] opportunity to extend the sidewalk connectivity down Traverse Street so as we

[36:52] continue to design for future faces of the Riverwalk and then down. Let there be

[36:57] light. It's very dark. As the river will continue to further east towards West

[37:05] Covington, that if you are along River Road and you get to the intersection of

[37:09] church, and ashtray, that you know that there's a downtown up here, you're

[37:15] not just bypassing to go down towards Memorial Park. So another consideration to

[37:21] evaluate and throughout other ones on here, I will say, I'm sure you mentioned this

[37:26] at the last council meeting, but the American Discovery Trail and the opportunities to highlight

[37:32] love, though, as a city that's very walk-on connected to nature and the community.

[37:37] And other than that, I will say there's any, for many questions, I have to answer any

[37:41] questions.

[37:45] One more time.

[37:46] Well, did you have a quote for the traversed street as well in terms of that asked to complete

[37:51] that?

[37:52] Do you have any?

[37:53] I do not.

[37:54] Okay.

[37:55] I'll put that on my list and see if we could get at least some budgetary estimates from

[38:00] If the ask was for, with it being highlighted, was for us to consider the, okay, so

[38:05] these are my two wishes projects.

[38:07] Yeah.

[38:08] Okay.

[38:08] Thank you.

[38:09] I know when we evaluated that, just, as an amateur traffic engineer here, learning under

[38:14] some of the tutelage of KYTC individuals, that area becomes very challenging if you're

[38:19] in a car, trying to, I mean, turn left out of traverse, right, good work, yeah, that's

[38:26] So how do you evaluate that for more walking and bicycling priority version of the vehicular and I think given the public right away that's there just making sure you're not impacting any storm water that will be going down through that way so need opportunity.

[38:42] Do you want to ask another one?

[38:44] I see the look.

[38:45] I know the sign you should put on the fence behind the football stadium, it says rib

[38:56] of rent comms.

[38:58] Oh, the band sign you should put there?

[39:00] Oh, yeah.

[39:01] From the ribbon cutting?

[39:03] Yeah.

[39:03] Peace.

[39:04] We can take that down.

[39:05] No.

[39:05] Well I'm just saying, are there plans to put more that maybe not signed, but to cover

[39:13] that fence where you can't see into the football field?

[39:15] So our plan?

[39:17] I had heard that the school wanted that done, so maybe on their dime, I don't know,

[39:22] just so you couldn't stand back here and watch football.

[39:24] Yes, so there was a mesh windscreen that blocked the bus slot from the football stadium.

[39:31] And when the path went in, it shrunk the opportunity to actually have an effective

[39:36] windscreen there.

[39:37] So they took those off and placed them down towards the shop put.

[39:42] Yeah, they've got a turn.

[39:43] So they put those there temporarily to discourage tailgating during football games.

[39:52] So reasonable.

[39:54] What we're trying to do to mitigate long-term use of the windscreens is to put more landscaping

[39:59] in along the track there. So we're hoping to install that late September timeframe and

[40:04] that was a partnership with us in the school to pledge to put some money in. So just

[40:08] to end the word. I didn't know where that stood. Yes. Good question. And receding as well.

[40:14] I think all of the seed that was put down. It looked great for the ribbon cutting. Yeah.

[40:18] Yeah. Oh, yeah. I am. I appreciate it. Thank you. Next up

[40:36] is a mayor's report and I just

[40:38] have a short report.

[40:41] So I do want to say I want to thank Infinite Health's

[40:45] Productions and let the Heritage Museum for their partnership and work on Saturday's

[40:48] rail sessions event. It was a great success and I appreciate everyone who helped

[40:53] make that evening possible or that day possible and everyone who came out to

[40:57] support it. Please join us for the next rail sessions event on Wednesday September

[41:02] number 16th from 6 to 9 p.m.

[41:05] And also I have an update for council and for residents.

[41:12] Our treasurer Wayne Harris submitted his resignation yesterday was his last day with

[41:16] the city of Lepo.

[41:18] Wayne accepted an opportunity closer to home.

[41:20] He said he couldn't pass it up.

[41:22] So we appreciate his service to the city and wish him well in his new position.

[41:27] More information will come at our next meeting.

[41:29] will we will have some port from Steve Bowie at the moment and we will find

[41:33] additional support while we move into the new search. And that concludes my

[41:38] mayor's updates. Next up we have citizens wishing to address mayor and council

[41:45] public comment is welcome limited to three minutes per citizen please approach the

[41:49] podium and state where name and address.

[41:58] All right. Moving on to the next item on

[42:01] agenda on Finnish business will continue our discussion on a potential bicycle

[42:05] ordinance.

[42:11] We shall exact for submitting all of those examples from other cities

[42:15] that are very helpful. A lot of them were very similar and I know in the past

[42:20] when we've suggested ordinances for city like when I did the tree ordinance I just

[42:25] compared a bunch of them and put it in spreadsheet and then highlighted those

[42:29] things and then there were a couple of other things that were in one city that

[42:33] there wasn't anything else, had had to do with helmets on riding children like the babies.

[42:43] And so like people identified those things and then we just could suggest, all of counsel

[42:48] could suggest and it back to you and just so we could do it independently and then submit

[42:55] You can submit everything and one lump sum so you could have quick and easy.

[43:00] Sure.

[43:01] And do you think, Michelle, you have a few topics.

[43:04] I think a few topics, just maybe to get your all opinions on some of it.

[43:09] So I think definitions themselves, I think Zach and I would kind of look at definitions of all these different types of electronic bicycles or anything and kind of confirm which ones are most legally enforceable things like that.

[43:25] Currently, as we sit here today, the first, I guess, thing we did decide is, what does

[43:30] everyone's feelings on allowing bicycles on sidewalk as we sit here today?

[43:34] There's no bicycles.

[43:35] I think there was definitely some reception to, at least a lot of children on the air, but

[43:40] what is everyone's feelings on allowing bicycles is, a lot of these ordinances, they are allowing

[43:45] their bicycles on sidewalks.

[43:48] Right on sidewalks are you can't ride it on sidewalks.

[43:53] So I think it's to occur at least standard order said or the new by single bicycles at all

[43:58] You can't even walk

[43:59] We can't even walk it down the side, right? I don't even know we have an exception

[44:03] We have an exception for your children

[44:04] I don't think there's an exception for children, I don't know why it's like that

[44:07] And I think that's important for

[44:11] We should make sure that we have a right bike, we don't not want them in the street

[44:15] Right, I think we need to consider that

[44:17] Right

[44:18] And I mean a couple of them were like 12 and under which I think is a little

[44:22] still a little too high probably. We have kids on large bikes by the time they're

[44:28] 12. I was thinking maybe eight like that puts them in the second grade and by

[44:34] that point they should be fairly stable on a bike. Yeah how do we feel about eight

[44:39] ears as a range? So generally would be no bikes on sidewalk when no no mobility

[44:47] or related devices, except for, of course, ADA compliance.

[44:51] No, when you say no box on sidewalks, if you're on oak street, you're on linden street.

[44:57] You can't walk.

[45:00] You can't ride your bike on a sidewalk right now. So I think it sounds like there's you all favor basically keeping the bike from the vision in but allowing young children to ride their bikes.

[45:18] And then I think there was a lot of service helmets. I think most of these usually are requiring children out of your 16 or under under 18 to wear helmets. And I think yet the idea if you're if you do have a bike that allows you to

[45:35] to have your child with them that child needs to have a helmet as well.

[45:42] As far as these parks, trails, multi-use paths, I did ask that will Weber, Dayton, I think,

[45:49] does have, they did for strife, I think, do some restrictions so they did put some signage

[45:55] up there about restricting a little bit on their path.

[45:57] I think it's mostly that level two, level three, I'm sorry, electric bike, which is essentially

[46:04] the equivalent of the mo pet, I think that probably, and I think being consistent with him

[46:08] would make sense.

[46:13] Is my understanding correct that currently we do not allow any bikes?

[46:23] Well, we don't allow, it says it now, but they're in the park, so it's hard for them to

[46:28] allow bicycles to be done on that river walk.

[46:33] That is the other than the essentially your, yeah, one that's essentially motor vehicles.

[46:37] And that's the other thing we say none, but kids write bikes on the skate park, which is fine.

[46:43] So I think we need to revise it to say that they can be on the skate park.

[46:46] Yeah, but that's technically a sidewalk, so they would be in the park.

[46:48] Well, it's at any park.

[46:50] Oh, where is the park?

[46:51] Yeah, it's okay.

[46:52] Yeah.

[46:53] So I think we lift it for the park and for the river walk, for the, at least for the skate park.

[46:59] Okay.

[47:01] Yeah, right now it says, um, new advice that go on public park playground play live.

[47:08] We're taught a lot except for on a roadway or in the parking area.

[47:10] So we let them on this skate park.

[47:13] Well, they dropped down off the street and ride right right on in through.

[47:17] So, um,

[47:22] it's hard to force it on how you're going to force it.

[47:24] I don't know.

[47:24] I think we've mainly only, I guess.

[47:28] Yeah, yeah, I would only, unless someone's acting dangerously or I would imagine, I wonder what year was that ordinance amended or passed?

[47:39] 1996. Interesting.

[47:43] That's been a while.

[47:44] Okay. All right. So we definitely need to...

[47:47] So you're saying on the river wall, no level three.

[47:51] Correct.

[47:52] How do you determine a level three?

[47:54] There will be a definition there.

[47:55] And at a level three, that is the type of electronic vibe that you actually do have to register

[47:59] with the OT.

[48:01] So it has certain functions that it's not exactly a mo pad, but it's equivalent to a

[48:07] mo pad where you do, you should be 16 years old, I think you should be licensed.

[48:13] Those people are supposed to think you can kind of speak to that as well.

[48:15] These are.

[48:19] Yeah.

[48:19] Oh, there's something on the bike itself.

[48:22] Yeah, so I think there it really comes from I think a federal statute kind of where these definitions are coming from the state

[48:27] Has not adopted them right as separate definitions

[48:29] But I think the cities are getting their definitions from the federal government and then if you tweak your level one or level two

[48:36] Evike and make it to where it functions like a level three then then you would you're supposed to register it as well

[48:41] And isn't there a speed limit to on the level three don't they go like 35?

[48:46] They can go like 28 six out in my mind

[48:49] they can go through the past. Do you have a speed limit on that for level three? Do you know?

[48:55] Okay.

[49:00] So I know it was mentioned about like permitting or registration. Zach and I have looked

[49:03] at that. We have not found any other city that has registered. The golf carts are different because

[49:09] you have a specific care rest that lets you permit. So I do think that might be something to

[49:14] bring to the general assembly. This is kind of a problem that might be something for people to

[49:18] advocate for them to allow, to get that authorization to allow.

[49:22] But I don't think we could, other than the level for

[49:24] I don't think you're going to get registration on a local level

[49:28] until we get some sort of statutory permission.

[49:32] So you can have a golf cart on the riverwalk?

[49:36] Please.

[49:37] For now.

[49:38] I don't think I'll address that with a golf cart.

[49:39] I don't think we've addressed that.

[49:40] I don't think that.

[49:41] And if we want to amend, we should update that.

[49:44] I put that currently we have the,

[49:48] what

[49:48] I want things, yeah, that are only unlocked during events so that we can get

[49:54] performers through or food trucks, former disease vehicles, but you should not be able to access it

[50:00] unless you've really went all through to try to get back on it, but I think

[50:05] I think we're fine there. I don't know. What if we would like to amend the cyber board?

[50:10] I'm just asking a question. I don't know the answer on me.

[50:12] Yeah, I think we probably want to check with low-weather and see what the other city I don't think it makes sense to allow it

[50:19] Just on one portion of the trail. I think it will make me

[50:23] Yeah, so we can check on that I brought it up as because the registration question was brought up

[50:29] We can permit the golf carts because there's a statute that says we can permit the golf carts on a Kentucky level

[50:34] They have care as for garden

[50:36] And then just the other thing is just penalties

[50:40] Some cities do the civil fines and then you can appeal it to your code enforcement board.

[50:44] Some cities make it a criminal violation or a misdemeanor and then they get cited to court.

[50:50] There are so many cities that are holding the parents responsible, and then some of the cities

[50:55] who are trying to impound the vehicles, the bicycles until the fines are paid, which is kind

[51:00] of thoughts on.

[51:01] How would that work since we don't have a code enforcement or joint code enforcement board?

[51:07] Okay, so this would be like what's PDF this is something that the other cities are sending or they're comfortable

[51:13] Okay, not taking on as in peel

[51:15] And then also need to type of accounting attorney's office see what their comfortability is with

[51:20] Well, I get there's some preference on

[51:23] On what but I think it is kind of in the northern Bulgaria

[51:25] It's kind of 50-50 feet shot and wet

[51:28] Which ones which one is being used

[51:31] Right

[51:31] Is that something?

[51:33] Council would do we think

[51:35] like, civil or criminal would be something we would,

[51:38] I think civil would probably be more

[51:40] our criminal justice system.

[51:41] To be not my friends, but I just want to add that to it.

[51:48] And as far as if they are,

[51:52] if you're riding your bicycle in the street,

[51:53] you still have to have a track that was those things

[51:55] will always, right, can always be cited

[51:57] at criminal court if you're speeding

[51:58] or if you're running red lights,

[52:00] not using your proper signals,

[52:02] those types of things with storming.

[52:06] In the last meeting, the mayor brought up the idea

[52:08] of doing like a registry with the city would that be for as we're talking about

[52:14] levels one two and three. I don't think we can do. I think we would I think we

[52:19] probably need to care us to authorize the city do that kind of. Okay. That doesn't

[52:24] get it because it does with the golf. Okay. Thank you. Sorry. I'm a suffer. No worries.

[52:30] Those were kind of the topics. Zach and I highlighted. Zach, did you did I miss

[52:33] anything?

[52:38] Or did you all have any other thoughts on things that you would like to see included

[52:44] based off of? I think our plan is also to talk to Chief Beck, probably Shane and Jamie

[52:50] to see if they have any other issues with their senior city, if they think we can be concluded,

[52:55] come back with a first reading for you all. And then we can always do, if there's some tweaks

[52:59] that you guys want to have made, we can always come back and do a second first reading.

[53:02] Thank you.

[53:04] No giant brush on this, I don't think, but.

[53:06] And also something that we discussed, Michelle,

[53:09] is that maybe we can have her to further our officer

[53:13] to school, start giving some presentations,

[53:15] just giving some information about e-bikes

[53:17] and how to, you know, how they should be behaving on their bikes.

[53:23] And in what areas they should be getting off of their bikes

[53:25] and walking it, just for safety purposes.

[53:29] To ensure that I'm sure he may already be doing something

[53:31] But I think just having a conversation that maybe we should do more of those or at all or not I

[53:39] Remember having that the those type of officers come in and give these presentations

[53:43] And I was a kid on bike safety and how to behave on the road and just just to try and give that information out to the kids at the school

[53:51] And I think to be fair once we passed the ordinance that I think it should be presented to the like in the forum to the school so that they know

[53:59] So, I think it's subchanged.

[54:00] Right.

[54:01] Exactly.

[54:02] And I think I did like, I think it was the fourth Thomas ordinance they did have at the

[54:06] first, your first offense is a warning and if it's a child who's doing it, you send

[54:11] that warning to the parent, you send them a copy of an ordinance, I think that's good education

[54:14] for the community as well, do that and I do think Alexander I think it's a pretty good

[54:19] FAQ they put up on their website that I think would be nice to do that you can put it in.

[54:24] They put it more in plain language and the ordinance language to help it help people understand

[54:28] and what the new rules are.

[54:30] First warning is always appropriate.

[54:33] And then I guess it was their thoughts on

[54:35] some of these cities are going to impound the bicycle

[54:38] for two hours, until the civil five state.

[54:41] I check with Chief Beck, he does think

[54:43] if the city wanted to go that route, they do have room

[54:46] for that, but what is your thoughts on?

[54:49] I think we have to, I think at one point,

[54:53] you're gonna have somebody that's going to push the limit.

[54:55] And that's just that there's no other option, but I think we have to be careful about how that number that we pick

[55:03] Yeah, so that it doesn't get so punitive that the kids are afraid to get on the right right

[55:10] What do you think a good number of warnings would be before even addressing?

[55:13] I think I know one it I feel like it was one work now all the ones are running together in my head

[55:16] I think one of them said I guess it's you know

[55:19] I want you to take your 4th time, we're going to kind of take it and you don't get it back until you've had your fines.

[55:28] And what type of fines do we think that that amount should be?

[55:32] They were the ones I've read for small, like 50, 25, 50 is what I thought.

[55:37] It's still appropriate.

[55:39] You can kind of level it up like you do with code in general for the enforcement.

[55:42] Okay,

[55:51] I don't have any other topics written down on us anyone else had topics that they saw they would like to talk about

[56:00] So

[56:01] I guess we'll continue this conversation we'll pull together what we talked about tonight and we get a little bit more at the next

[56:08] Next meeting all right

[56:13] All right, so next on agenda's new business of which we have none and

[56:18] Then next on the agenda following that is announcements and I will start with this gracious

[56:25] Mr. Ziegler?

[56:26] Love you.

[56:27] All right.

[56:28] This is Terry DeVar.

[56:30] Thank you.

[56:32] September 9th is the next walking clock.

[56:35] All right.

[56:37] We're going to switch things up a little bit this coming time.

[56:41] So walk-talk and trash will start at 5 o'clock.

[56:44] And one of the events we're going to do is go down to the riverbank

[56:49] and dig up some of the pottery that's down there to try and

[56:52] do some kind of project in the future yeah we're gonna do 5 to 630 location that

[56:59] we're going to meet has still not been determined so watch Facebook for

[57:04] that and then by the way in bloom we'll start at 630 and rental 730 and that

[57:10] location has not been chosen yet so watch Facebook this got ready yeah I had two

[57:18] questions. The first, I wanted to just circle back on Wayne. Can I ask why council

[57:25] wasn't notified if yesterday was his last day when he resigned? I'm notified now

[57:31] of the council meeting. When did he resign? He sent his resignation last week on Monday.

[57:37] Okay. Was there a reason we waited to inform council tonight? I'm just asking if there's

[57:43] This is when you're all convening today.

[57:45] Oh, gotta be the information.

[57:46] Okay, I was wasn't sure, like with an email

[57:48] in terms of transparency and open communication,

[57:51] it's a critical position for councils,

[57:53] so it's important to know when a position like that

[57:56] is vacant, so just curious.

[57:59] And then speaking of some just like important decisions

[58:03] that council will have to make,

[58:04] I'm curious if we have any updates on the tax rate.

[58:09] Because my understanding is we have to vote on that

[58:12] by the end of September.

[58:13] Right.

[58:14] We've just recently received that, so we will be having the discussions at the next

[58:18] council meeting.

[58:18] I think Lori has, I think, put the process in to have it advertised so that way it can

[58:24] be discussed at the first reading of the first second reading to the two September meetings.

[58:31] Okay.

[58:32] Which I think is common.

[58:33] Most cities do both of the first and second reading in September.

[58:36] Okay.

[58:37] You say you received the information already?

[58:39] Mm-hmm.

[58:39] Could you send that out?

[58:41] We haven't done it out yet.

[58:42] Can you?

[58:43] But Lori, she is out of training this week,

[58:46] so once she's back, we'll get better first.

[58:48] Should I have Monday?

[58:50] Yep.

[58:50] Okay, thank you.

[58:51] Yeah, the reason that I asked is just in case

[58:53] we do need to have some special meetings on that.

[58:57] I just wanted to let council know.

[58:58] I'll be traveling a lot in September.

[59:00] I'll be here for the first council meeting in September

[59:04] and then I'll be here through the 23rd

[59:07] and then I will be gone the 24th through the 3rd.

[59:10] So if needed for special meetings,

[59:14] I would ask that we do that before the 23rd,

[59:16] if we need to put anything on the calendar.

[59:18] So that's why I asked him to try to be proactive

[59:20] with the schedule if we needed to have multiple sessions

[59:23] in September given that we're at the end of August

[59:25] and haven't.

[59:26] I don't think that there's any additional meetings on this.

[59:28] I think we'll be fine.

[59:30] We'll have the presentation.

[59:32] You should have be prepared in the ordinance

[59:33] to have an explaining correct.

[59:36] Yes, you'll get it.

[59:37] Lori had asked us to have the ordinance

[59:39] is ready to read at the first meeting in September and then I don't know if she's, she does not

[59:48] I'm not giving us the dates for the ad yet, but I'm sure she is working on that.

[59:53] All right.

[59:56] Let's reach out to my team.

[1:00:02] We'll need to adjourn the move into the next, right, or we have to read that out. We have to read that out, so we've got to can adjourn you to begin. All right. So we have an executive session pursuant to CARE S-61.810 subsections G for discussions between a public agency and a representative of the business entity and discussions concerning a specific proposal. If open discussions would jeopardize the sighting, retention, expansion, or upgrading of the business.

[1:00:30] So I would just need a motion to move into executive session.

[1:00:44] Thank you.

[1:00:45] I have a second.

[1:00:48] All right. All in favor, to move to executive session, say aye.

[1:00:52] All opposed, nay.

[1:00:54] We will now be moving into an executive session, so everyone must exit.

[1:00:58] Chambers, please.

[1:00:59] Yes.

[1:00:59] Thank you.

[1:01:02] Good.

[1:01:03] All right.

Ludlow City Council

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