[0:00] for the pledge allegiance accordiance to the flag of the United States of

[0:06] America and to the stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and

[0:13] justice for all.

[0:19] » All right. Is there any changes to the agenda? Does

[0:24] anybody need to be added or anything? I'm pretty sure everybody's on there.

[0:28] Waste management's on there. Ben, you're on there. Jerry, you're on there.

[0:33] » We just need to add the reorganization meeting

[0:36] » when we're doing that. >> To the bottom.

[0:42] » All right. >> Pull your microphone.

[0:48] » It's actually on, though. That's good. >> Thank you.

[0:51] » All right. I will make a motion. um

[0:59] to everything's good. Yeah. To make a

[1:02] motion um to accept tonight's agenda. >> I'll second.

[1:06] » With having a second, I'll approve respond by saying I

[1:10] » I >> All right. Um

[1:16] is there any changes on a minute u board meet minutes from February 2nd?

[1:25] All right.

[1:29] » Nothing. All right. Then I will make a motion to approve February 2nd, 2026

[1:35] board meeting minutes. >> I'll second.

[1:38] » A second. All in favor respond by saying I.

[1:40] » I. >> Now before we go to the treasures

[1:44] report, I want to um we had our lab treasure resigned. So currently

[1:52] [clears throat] >> our elected

[1:55] » treasurer resigned. So we currently don't have a treasurer. Um

[2:04] is there I was going to say is there proper language

[2:09] » she was an elected official. She's resigned and now you

[2:13] » Okay. And Jean has graciously um said she will

[2:19] come back for a for a period of time um to fill the vacant SWAT.

[2:26] Um

[2:30] do is do I just need to read this Jenny or how

[2:33] » you make a motion to appoint and u you would sign certificate.

[2:39] » Okay. >> Yeah. Um, I'll make uh a motion to

[2:43] appoint Jean Skirmer as a treasurer of Lyndon Township.

[2:47] » I have a second. >> All in favor respond by saying I

[2:51] » I just sign.

[2:57] » Yes, James.

[3:01] I don't think so because it all just goes to the

[3:02] » tra

[3:13] I will let you know if I something that I can't get into or

[3:18] » should >> or shouldn't.

[3:22] Y >> and now that we have a treasurer

[3:25] » report. >> Now we're going to do the treasures

[3:27] report for the meeting tonight. Beginning balance for the month of

[3:30] February was 941,66221.

[3:36] Deposits made for the month were 47,26964.

[3:42] Out of that $45,56026

[3:47] was in the gas tax we received. $244.79 was fines and fees and $16459

[3:57] was an interest dispersements for the month were 23,4258.

[4:04] Um the largest cost this for the month of February um was Shaol Enterprises and

[4:09] that had our service fee and our snow plowing that was $12,68982

[4:16] and then Republic Services for the $4,100.91

[4:21] which has been that same amount for quite a while. We did have to void a

[4:27] check, Jenny and I did um to Minden Transfer Station. check number 9211

[4:34] and we issued a new one.

[4:39] » Men transfer station that was for the mattress disposal.

[4:44] » Oh yes. >> And the check got lost.

[4:47] » Oh yeah. >> Or there was no mail receptacle where I

[4:50] sent it. So So they didn't get it. So we sent you a new one. Um, so at the end of

[4:57] the month, our balance is $965,55.96.

[5:07] Anybody have any questions or concerns?

[5:15] » All good. >> I'm good.

[5:18] » Todd, okay? >> All right, then. I will make a motion to

[5:23] Hold on. I got I got the longwinded one. Not easy.

[5:28] Um I'll make a motion to accept the February

[5:32] 2026 treasures report and authorize the board to sign the SEOs forms including

[5:37] the claims list net pay account distribution and cash control

[5:41] statements. >> I will second.

[5:44] » Having a second. All in favor respond by saying I. I. I.

[5:49] Right.

[5:54] Okay, now we have quite a few people here um for new business. So, I just

[6:02] think we should probably jump down to the new business. Um we probably can

[6:07] start with I Ben, do you want to you want to start?

[6:17] » Thank you. I printed it. >> Sure.

[6:47] All right. Good evening. My name is Ben Anderson. I'm the Sterns County Parks

[6:50] Director and I'm here tonight just to provide an update on the Beaver Island

[6:54] Trail, the specifically the connection section that we're working on to connect

[6:59] the existing trail to Warner Lake County Park. So, when I was here last time, we

[7:03] had just had a general discussion on what we were thinking. So, we wanted to

[7:06] bring back an image so you could actually see and maybe get a little bit

[7:10] better understanding and then have discussions about questions, concerns,

[7:14] and those all all have to come up tonight because we're not finalizing

[7:18] anything in the next few weeks. We've got lots of time to have the ongoing

[7:22] discussion about this. Um, a quick update on where we're at with the I94

[7:27] bridge. Uh, like I mentioned last time, that bridge is owned by Mindot. Uh 3

[7:32] weeks ago we met with Mandot and we're still waiting to hear back. Um there's

[7:36] about three options on the table of potential crossings. There will be no

[7:41] bigger expansion of the bridge or anything like that. We want to use

[7:44] what's existing. Uh it's just a matter of what weight loads and things like

[7:48] that. That bridge will allow for differing types of structures on there.

[7:52] So hopefully when I come back I can have a more or a better update on what Mindot

[7:57] is thinking for that bridge because that will affect some of the county road

[8:01] alignment piece um in the future. So uh getting back to the 19th Avenue. So that

[8:08] 11 by17 that I handed uh the members uh you can see on the far left hand side

[8:15] that color picture on the very north side or top piece. You can see the

[8:19] crosswalk coming down to like a pink dotted pedestrian uh landing pad there.

[8:25] So, there's already a hawk crossing signal that was put in as part of the

[8:28] previous grant in that location and that falls all within the basically the

[8:33] county road rightway where that hawk crossing is. So, we had a permit to put

[8:37] that in. You can see we'd be expanding a little bit into potentially the township

[8:41] rightway on that. And then the green that you see on the east side is that

[8:46] potential uh where we're suggesting to put that onroad bike pedestrian trail.

[8:52] Uh if you move over to the bottom right hand side uh where there's really

[8:58] no color, it it gives a little bit more detail on what the engineers are

[9:03] thinking with the road. Um, so starting from the left and working right on that

[9:08] bottom image, you can see where the existing shoulder is where it says

[9:13] existing shoulder two feet and then there's a open space and then it goes to

[9:18] a 10-ft lane and you can see I believe they're shrinking the lanes or proposing

[9:23] to shrink the lanes a little bit through there and actually moving the center

[9:26] line over to the west about a foot in order to give us a little bit more room

[9:32] on the east side so we don't cuz there's wetland there. So hopefully we can avoid

[9:37] as much wetland impact as we could. Um so the engineer's opinion is that that

[9:42] 10-ft um drive lane would be sufficient for that road. But again, we're asking,

[9:48] you know, this isn't all said and done. This is just a drawing at this point. Um

[9:54] then as you move over further east, you can see that other 10-ft lane and it

[10:00] would add about another 6 foot of batuminous surface uh to the east of

[10:05] what's existing out there to give us about an 8 foot wide uh pedestrian lane

[10:10] through there. We're not proposing any exist or permanent barriers or even

[10:15] temporary barriers to separate traffic from the pedestrian bike traffic. It

[10:19] would be a a painted double white line for visual. Uh because of that road

[10:24] being so short and cars not having the ability to really gain much speed coming

[10:29] um through that short section before they hit a stop sign on either side.

[10:34] Um, if we go back to the picture on the left hand side, um, and go to the bottom

[10:40] where it meets 19th meets County Road 143, you can see that crosswalk, uh,

[10:46] going from east to west across there. If we come straight across 143, we go right

[10:52] into a neighbor's driveway. So, that's why we're proposing to come across the

[10:56] road that way. We're still, and this is where Mandot comes into play, depending

[11:00] on what they let us do with the bridge. Um,

[11:04] it's going to depend on which side of the road we end up on. There is one

[11:08] scenario, and I would say worst case scenario where we we may end up on both

[11:12] sides of the road um with trail uh just to certain rules and regulations that

[11:17] have to be followed in in terms of the pedestrian side of things.

[11:22] So, I'll stop briefly there for any questions or comments. And again, like I

[11:28] said, we don't have to have them all tonight. If you have my email, um, or

[11:32] it's been, uh, emailed to Jenny, so and Scott have it for sure. So, please, if

[11:37] you have additional stuff that comes up, email, ask questions.

[11:41] » They say in the in the freak, I mean, you never know. you don't

[11:46] think that'll happen and then it does. But like I say, somebody wanted to put a

[11:49] driveway in, you know, out of that or I guess anywhere in that in that area. I'm

[11:55] assuming it would not be in the delinated wetland area, but maybe, you

[11:58] know, closer up to County Road 143 or something. is would there any be extra

[12:02] hoops or anything that somebody would have to jump through to get that

[12:06] approved other than you know >> not that I'm aware of because the

[12:10] township would still maintain the ownership of the road or at least that

[12:13] would be my proposal is that the county doesn't take that over. So the township

[12:17] would maintain the right to put another access in there if they so choose. also

[12:23] still owns the right Minnesota Supreme Court,

[12:38] » you know, I guess just some other questions that I had written down just

[12:41] to think about. And again, I don't need >> Would you guys I mean, and maybe we

[12:44] should do it or think about it, too. I mean, I nothing on this thing scares me,

[12:47] too. But, you know, the one the only thing is is like we're shrinking that

[12:50] road. I don't even know how busy that road is. I mean, if if if the county

[12:54] could do a counter or something, I don't you know what I mean? I don't know.

[12:57] » They may have it. I don't know for sure. I can ask questions.

[13:00] » I don't I used to live there as well. It is a fairly busy road,

[13:07] » but I

[13:11] like the idea of the trail. >> I said it should connect there.

[13:15] » Yeah. >> No, I I agree. I I agree with that, too.

[13:18] I think it's a great a great idea too, but ultimately safety for everybody, you

[13:23] know, you don't want to one concern if you

[13:26] » What's the current speed limit on that? >> I have to look. Is it 30 or 55? Is it

[13:32] unmarked? >> Is it 30 sign there?

[13:34] » It is posted. >> Uh

[13:36] » if it's not, we should really think about that, too. If something like this

[13:39] goes forward, >> right?

[13:42] » I can double check too if it's posted. >> Trailers and stuff start hitting the

[13:45] gravel shoulder. typically degrades the shoulder and then the road starts to

[13:51] break away. Be concerned about moving the center line. Um so then your your

[13:58] proposed trail it would stay at the same grade as the asphalt of the road and

[14:03] just continue out another 8 ft from the edge of the existing asphalt.

[14:07] » Six feet. >> So the trail is 8 ft. So they'd shift

[14:12] the proposal here shows shifting the drive lane so that we'd save about two

[14:16] feet. It doesn't show it identifically on here, but it would just be a six

[14:20] foot. >> So, you're actually proposing to use

[14:22] part of the existing asphalt >> portion 2 ft of it.

[14:26] » Mhm.

[14:38] » Don't know. >> Yeah.

[14:42] » Can ask the question. >> That would be great. Great question.

[14:45] Thank you. >> I mean, it's right in between two.

[14:47] » Oh, it makes sense. I mean, it's in between. Now you're wanting to use it.

[14:53] [laughter] >> Let's get rid of it.

[14:56] » Put that proposal, too, [laughter] >> then. Write that in there.

[15:00] » Chris is new. Chris is new to the county, so we can see what we can slip.

[15:05] » It's a very short. >> Yeah, it's not very long.

[15:07] » I mean, yeah. >> What I mean, what would would there be

[15:11] that's the only negative to us? >> No, nothing.

[15:15] We would even, you know, I would say we'd entertain her entertain the thought

[15:19] of bringing it up to bar before we ended up even.

[15:23] » There we go. We would entertain the thought of the county taking it over.

[15:28] » I don't know what the odds of that are, but I can ask the question.

[15:30] » I think we asked a long time ago. >> Okay.

[15:33] » For them, those short I think it was 19th and then I think we have one that's

[15:37] in between road. I mean, yeah. So just out of curiosity

[15:43] when So now you're going to stay on the north side of 145 because updike is

[15:48] right across the road by that crossing. But that hill has such a crown to it. I

[15:54] mean it's it's kind of a dangerous road when you go over because you can't see

[15:57] what's on the other side. >> If you get the pedestrians crossing

[16:00] anywhere on one side of that bridge at all, I

[16:03] mean that just seems dangerous. But that's up to you and the county,

[16:06] » right? So that's what's being considered and what Mandat will let us and how

[16:10] they'll let us cross the road. If we can put everybody onto one side of the

[16:13] bridge because we have to shift the whole drive lane on the bridge as well

[16:17] in order to do some of this. If they allow us to go one side, then we could

[16:21] potentially go up and only have one crossing. If they won't and they make us

[16:25] do two-way traffic, because technically bikes are supposed to travel with the

[16:29] way of traffic, if we have to use both sides of the bridge, there would

[16:32] actually be a crossing. if you're headed towards the park on 143 prior to getting

[16:38] to the bridge to maintain sight lines and it's only like halfway between 19th

[16:42] and the bridge on where that crossing would end up to end up on the south side

[16:46] of the road. So >> go halfway from 19th to the bridge and

[16:51] jump to the other side, >> jump to the south and then

[16:54] » still seems dangerous because people go over that bridge going east,

[16:57] » right? I forget the exact number the engineers used if it was 500 foot sight

[17:01] line or something like that that they had to be from that crest for the

[17:04] sighteline but >> because there are a lot of bicyclists

[17:07] around the parks and Yep. >> And when it's busy I you pay attention

[17:12] because they're around a lot of room to move

[17:14] » right >> when it

[17:21] for sure. So those are certainly a couple questions I can bring back. you

[17:24] know, a couple other ones. You know, I I envision probably having to put together

[17:28] some sort of an agreement. I think on the township side, either, you know,

[17:31] whether the county maintains it or you maintain it or whatever that looks like.

[17:35] Um, we'd also probably, you know, I don't know if you have something like

[17:39] that that's existing at this time. I mean, you have this connecting to the

[17:44] existing township road. So, I mean, what would future maintenance if the road

[17:49] needed to be redone or reworked? your your your trails connected to it. How

[17:54] does that >> Well, I I think I mean we kind of talked

[17:58] about that last time. Ben would have to explain, but the maintenance on it too

[18:02] probably too. The biggest catch would be the funding of it, you know, where that

[18:05] funding comes from. Is it more grants? Is it more or is it on the township, you

[18:10] know, to maintain it with the road, you know,

[18:15] » right? I think the biggest maintenance would just be making sure the double

[18:19] white line stays in place for the first 20 years and then after that then it

[18:23] would be a replacement and whenever the road was redone is when that would be

[18:26] redone as well. >> Is that kind of the design life of that

[18:29] this 20 years? >> Yeah, we to design it to whatever. That

[18:32] was another question I got on here. You know, what's your typical bit surface?

[18:36] How much base do you want underneath it? That type of thing because yeah, we

[18:39] don't need it slagging sagging or sloughing or we want it to stay the same

[18:43] as with the road. So, and we're doing the same with St. Joe

[18:47] Township right now where we're actually building a road on property that's owned

[18:52] by the county, but there's township residents that live on it. And so, we're

[18:57] building the road, but the township has agreed to take it over and maintain it

[19:01] as long as you build it to their standards. So, we want to know what your

[19:05] standards are.

[19:15] Otherwise, that's pretty much what I have for tonight. Again, it's just an

[19:18] update. If you think of things, I'll keep you in the loop as we move forward.

[19:21] I can come back with a if this looks okay in concept right now, we'll move

[19:25] forward. I'll have them put some more detail in on proposals of like thickness

[19:29] of attuminous base, what exactly that all looks like.

[19:33] » Yeah. No, I appreciate it. It's nice to have It's nice to have the wrong, too.

[19:37] » All righty. Thank you. Thank you.

[19:45] » Now to Jerry. >> Yes.

[19:50] » Jerry and I'm assuming Greg. >> Yes.

[19:55] So, um, we've been throwing a couple emails back and forth. So, Jerry's

[20:00] building a house here really soon actually, it sounds like, um, or getting

[20:05] it going on it. and he's gonna have a couple of those that are going to be

[20:08] over, you know, like when the road restrictions go on, it's going to be,

[20:11] you know, over the our legal weight um for that road. I

[20:18] It's It's also the road that we were doing overweight permits for with the

[20:23] » chicken >> with the chicken barn.

[20:26] So, I was like, "Oh, it should be pretty cut and dry, right?" because you know

[20:29] but the one with the chicken barn was all built around

[20:34] a state statue with agricultural you know with egg in in mind you know so

[20:41] um it really didn't fit the bill with uh agriculture doesn't have to comply to

[20:47] all the regulations of weights >> no correct

[20:50] » um no no it's not it's not that I mean and we were charging them I mean they

[20:54] were it was it was it was fine it was basically just it was a statute saying

[20:57] that we must give them a permit and you know basically you know and whatever

[21:03] that permit is. >> Um and with that one there was there was

[21:06] some other things tied to it like you know like if we needed engineering and

[21:11] you know and that cost of $100 and and did you print out what I had sent by any

[21:16] chance? >> Yeah. So, I had started this and this is

[21:20] just a rough draft of of uh and you guys can look at if you want basically

[21:26] um and I know Greg because I I asked Greg too like you know what was what was

[21:31] you know if you had to do anything with the county and and they're actually

[21:33] going to be you know legal with the county loads with what they have. Um but

[21:38] they have had other situ situations like this in the

[21:43] past per se. um what township that was Melrose Township

[21:50] and basically what Melrose did I mean obviously ours is is is uh way more

[21:54] formal basically Melrose just gave them an email basically essentially saying

[22:00] hey you're you're good um

[22:05] what I'm what I'm what I am s suggesting there is is basically you know tying it

[22:12] to you know hall times of the morning, you know, when when the road is is, you

[22:17] know, a little a little tougher with uh hopefully frost or freezing, you know,

[22:23] lower temps. Also putting in there too if the road is, you know, obviously

[22:29] damaged or destroyed or whatever that it's brought back to our standards.

[22:35] Um, there's an expiration date on there and

[22:39] really the expiration date can just be whenever you know weight restrictions go

[22:44] off. You know, basically we're following the

[22:47] Minnesota time frames, county time frames. When those weight restrictions

[22:51] go off, that permit is really null and void at that point, too. The other side

[22:56] of that, too, is like, is there a cost to that? you know, um,

[23:03] in in the chicken barns, I mean, this I'm just going to give you my feelings.

[23:06] You guys tell me tell me what you think. But with the chicken barns, it's more it

[23:10] was a commercial, you know, um, job basically. You know, that, you know,

[23:16] we're not getting any other really revenue from that or anything like that

[23:19] other than, you know, that $100 we're getting. In this situation, I I mean, I

[23:24] am apt to say we don't charge a price, you know.

[23:29] Um, I know Jerry's he's fine with $100. That's that's not even a thing. But I'm

[23:34] just saying how many people I mean have come forward, you know, in the same

[23:38] situation and asked for an overweight permit to start with for one thing, you

[23:42] know, and take responsibility if anything's done to the road. I'm just

[23:47] saying I don't think that we even need to charge

[23:51] for it. That's just my I mean, but when we do this, remember this is kind of

[23:55] sort of setting a precedence. So, >> I don't care about the charge, but I

[23:58] think we still should give the permit just so they can't say that we didn't do

[24:01] it to everybody. >> Mhm.

[24:04] » How many loads? >> Um, it's it's it's in here. So, I mean,

[24:08] I I I slightly changed the wording, but

[24:11] » eight loads of ready mix, two trips for a pump truck over six axles. Six axles

[24:16] and one semi with five axles for foam foundation blocks.

[24:20] » And that one may, you know, it's going to be right right there at legal weight

[24:24] limit. You know what I mean? And Greg also said that, you know, he

[24:28] would be fine if if we put like a time frame on there. I don't know if before

[24:31] noon is okay or or excuse me, I'm fine with that. Um the other thing that's

[24:38] come up

[24:46] » if you in that in that quarter of a mile because I'm I'm imagining you're coming

[24:50] from 44 on like Schroers right there. So that's like a half mile or less.

[24:56] Probably just a slight less than a half a mile probably.

[24:59] » So I don't know if you guys are really, you know, I don't know how fast you're

[25:02] going to get going in that time frame, but

[25:04] » wasn't too worried about it that because I was just, you know, for me it was just

[25:07] the distance. I wasn't. So I was just like

[25:09] » that's what I was thinking.

[25:17] » Yeah.

[25:21] What was your time frame that you were thinking of running this?

[25:26] » No, but what a date. >> Uh, we're looking at starting.

[25:32] » I had not had that on there. >> I didn't see it.

[25:35] » I may not. >> Nope.

[25:42] And I don't know if it's going to make a difference.

[25:54] Yeah. The only other

[26:01] » I do. Yeah, I do winter. And maybe a little bit beforehand. No, and that's

[26:07] what I'd like to I was actually going to suggest that too because part of that in

[26:09] there too is the basically that we just you know record photos, video, whatever

[26:14] of the road conditions prior to construction start date. That way that

[26:18] way we just have that record on file and you know and then we both can agree on

[26:22] it if we go do it together too. It's totally fine.

[26:24] » Yeah. I just don't want somebody coming along later saying we destroyed it.

[26:31] » Yep. So, no, absolutely. That I I believe I

[26:35] have that stipulation in there that we >> that we do that.

[26:40] » Yeah. [clears throat and cough] I mean, I think we should charge something for

[26:43] it. It's a service that's being offered. You're going to you're going to go out

[26:47] and look at the road or one of us is going to go look at the road and take a

[26:50] few photos and, you know, cost some chips some money. So,

[26:55] what's a fair amount? I don't know. I mean the other hang up for me is that's

[26:59] not in our list of service fees you know currently that doesn't mean nothing I

[27:03] mean that doesn't necessarily you know

[27:11] yes James >> the weird thing is is I remember this

[27:14] coming from Curry that an application does not have to be a service fee

[27:18] because it is considered a administrative fee so it can be changed

[27:22] at any time weird fact but I agree with

[27:28] because it's going to cost, you know, someone one of us will charge a fee.

[27:32] Taxpayers are on the hook for that fee. So, for the service, I believe there

[27:39] should be a fee of some sort. >> What do you think?

[27:42] » Well, 100 bucks already seems cheap, right? Like us talking about it this

[27:45] long. >> Yeah. I mean, Jerry, like I said, and I

[27:47] don't want to get hung up I don't want to get hung up on the on the service

[27:49] because I mean the $100 Jerry No, they never they never bocked anything about

[27:52] it. I told him from day one how much it was and he didn't he didn't care. Yeah,

[27:57] » but I was just saying as as I got through it and why we had it and what

[28:01] we're doing and how the permit laid out, it was, you know, that's that was just

[28:05] my thought process going. >> I mean, I would disagree with your

[28:07] statement, but just because someone else already on the existing road has to have

[28:10] a permit, just pay theund bucks, move on.

[28:12] » Yeah, I believe the $100 is still >> Yeah, it's on there.

[28:15] » So, we just have to add a start date basically.

[28:18] » Yeah, I wrote that up there on there. And is that a fair

[28:22] » do you want them to coordinate >> a fair price at $100? I mean, you're not

[28:26] You're not offended by that.

[28:29] » I don't like adding government fees, but it'll cost the taxpayer somebody to go

[28:33] out there and they got to pay for the service.

[28:36] » This is our conversation.

[28:41] » Correct. >> For the taxpayer,

[28:46] all the money comes from the taxpayers. So,

[28:48] » the only change I'm going to make is is I'm going to kind of hand it off to

[28:51] Jamie because she does summer roads. So, unless it's got snow on it, I'm moving

[28:56] on that. >> Oh, okay.

[28:59] » So, you can coordinate with me when you're ready to start and I'll come out

[29:02] [clears throat] pictures. >> Perfect.

[29:06] » Do you guys want to read through this quick before we actually go and approve?

[29:09] » He's going to forward me your email and then I'll send you my cell.

[29:13] » Oh, perfect. >> Thank you.

[29:21] Thank you.

[29:28] » I know it sounds a little more official looking than the last one, but

[29:31] [laughter] >> Jenny gave me a good start.

[29:38] » Thank you. >> Second of approval will be happy.

[29:41] » Um,

[29:45] » are we good pending the start date in on it?

[29:49] Well then, >> okay. I will make a motion to um approve

[29:56] the to allow Wman contractors um Jerry to

[30:02] haul overweight loads um as identified in the in the agreement.

[30:10] um from County Road 44

[30:16] down 155th Street. It's roughly a half mile. Um and the permit will expire

[30:23] whenever the county weight restrictions come off all the roads.

[30:27] » Uh we'll second. >> Have a second. All in favor respond by

[30:30] saying I. >> I.

[30:33] » There it is.

[30:37] Thank you guys. Thank you guys coming in.

[30:41] » I can get you a copy if you see her. The new treasure just

[30:49] » and Jerry, thanks for reaching out way ahead of time for that, too. I

[30:52] appreciate that.

[30:56] » How come you're not doing your own excavating?

[31:06] » That's the truth. Jenny, you want 600 bucks in, right?

[31:19] » I think we might as well jump up to that. Don't you think?

[31:25] » That's the only thing left there. Frost over there, Jerry. Much

[31:29] » frost.

[31:36] » Okay.

[31:38] Oh, >> got some cold stretches there. But there

[31:43] was snow, so

[31:48] » you'll find it. >> Jack will rip it out of there.

[31:58] » Awesome. Thank you, guys. Have a good night.

[32:00] » All right. Now, who seconded that? >> I did. Thanks.

[32:08] Now I um how about we jump up back up to

[32:12] unfinished business to waste management. >> How are you guys doing today?

[32:20] » Go ahead.

[32:24] » Can can you guys go up to the speaker? And the only reason I'm saying that is

[32:26] because there's probably, you know, we probably got two people listening out

[32:29] there. just in case.

[32:34] Actually, well, all joking besides it's also in case we need to go back and

[32:40] relist to something. >> Yeah, that's always good. Okay. Um, I've

[32:45] been working uh with Supervisor Jamie in terms of the contract. Today, I finally

[32:50] heard back from our legal team. So, I I sent the remaining edits. So, there's a

[32:56] couple of edits, but I do think that the key parts of the contract have been

[33:00] addressed. That means like primarily pricing and uh annual adjustment rates

[33:05] kind of thing. >> And I did forward it on to our attorney

[33:07] after I got it from you today. >> And I mean, we all know that we want to

[33:11] make sure that we're all on the same page. So, as long as it takes, like

[33:14] there's no rush from our end. We know that if we if we want to wait for

[33:18] another month until the next time you meet, that totally works for us. We do

[33:21] have a verbal agreement. We do know that we are working on our on our cart

[33:27] acquisition and deployment and all those things. All the accounts have been set

[33:30] up already. We already have you in the system. Um as I mentioned um

[33:37] the last time I was here our phone line the 800 number it will

[33:43] start working on April 1st. So between now and April 1st everyone can just

[33:48] contact me directly for any questions. So feel free to share that phone number

[33:52] so that we don't have to create a new one or anything. Okay. Um then I'm going

[33:58] to pass it to my colleague Alan Clawson. He will be talking about cart

[34:03] deployment. But just a heads up that um also supervisor Jamie provided us with

[34:08] some space at the industrial park to be able to set up there, have all the cards

[34:13] delivered, and then that's the location we're going to use as a base to start

[34:17] distributing all the cards in the um in the township.

[34:22] Um and I will make sure just to forward you

[34:27] my cell phone number and the 800 line so that you share it with your residents.

[34:32] um and the dates just so that folks are aware. Okay,

[34:36] » perfect. >> And uh after Allan, we can also talk

[34:39] about cleanup needs because I do know that you had tentatively scheduled May

[34:43] 14. I still have to touch base with Allen because we also have Royaltton on

[34:47] that day. So, we may need to coordinate a couple of things. Okay.

[34:52] » Can I ask a question before Alan? Sorry. Do you have the base list? You got that

[34:56] from Republic? >> Yes, I got it from from

[34:59] » Well, I did send it to you. these ones. >> Okay, I'll

[35:03] » But I can resend it. >> I I'll hook you again.

[35:06] » Oh, and and for awareness because I do remember you you asked this question

[35:09] last time I was here. There are 14 customers that currently have recycling

[35:14] with WM. So, we are going to be working with those to ensure that they get the

[35:18] best rates obviously. Okay. >> 14 customers that have what? Sorry.

[35:22] » Waste management recycling already. >> Oh, okay. Okay.

[35:32] Hi. So, I we will be working with a third party to deliver the carts. Um

[35:37] their plan is to roll out have two teams. So, two, you know, two to three

[35:42] drivers with two trucks. They'll get them they'll get them from the uh the

[35:47] business park there. Um once once we have the date of the actual delivery,

[35:52] which we don't have that yet, of the initial delivery from Cascade, we'll set

[35:56] up to get some equipment there to get the carts offloaded so that they're

[36:00] there and ready to go for the the third party. They're planning on starting the

[36:05] delivery on the 24th, which is a Tuesday. And then

[36:10] they're hopeful that they'll get it done in one day. If not, they'll take they'll

[36:13] they'll go into the next day and the next day if needed. Um without actually

[36:18] being out here, they never know really how long it's going to take. Um delivery

[36:22] is usually pretty cut and dry. You're just dropping off one cart at each end

[36:26] of each driveway. So, um really that's that's the biggest roll out. The

[36:31] Republic's last pickup day is >> 26.

[36:35] » The 26th and then our first pickup day will be two weeks after that.

[36:42] Do we know when Republic will be retrieving their carts?

[36:49] » Did you ever talk to them? >> No.

[36:56] » Per contract. I didn't know who structures.

[36:59] » Do you want me to reach out to them? >> If you would

[37:02] » since you know all that lingo. >> Yeah. And so yeah, as soon as you guys

[37:07] receive your carts, you know, ideally ideally probably don't use them until

[37:10] Republic's picked theirs up. That way they're not over full, you know, cuz

[37:14] it's it is going to be a little over two weeks. Um and they're, you know, they're

[37:19] just a 64gallon cart. So um we've used this third party before um for a couple

[37:25] other rollouts just in my area and it's it's gone, you know, pretty much

[37:29] perfect. So, um, I have a the guy that runs it is a former WM employee, so we

[37:35] have a good working relationship with him already. So,

[37:38] » do you know how many cars really? >> Well, supposedly there's 563.

[37:44] » 563 >> or 567. What was on that list?

[38:03] expired and then >> it doesn't say anything about having to

[38:07] do that. Just that the contract expires.

[38:13] » So, what what day were you dropping off the new bins? the new bins. The 24th is

[38:18] when we'll start that. >> March 24th.

[38:20] » Yes. >> And then your first pickup is April 9th.

[38:26] » Correct.

[38:32] » And the last public pickup is the 26th.

[38:39] » Last pick up the 26th.

[38:44] to be March 23rd but we have the exact they are saying like okay we should

[38:51] receive them by the exact shipping confirmation

[39:07] » any question any other questions >> all

[39:11] tracking sheet issues request

[39:22] requests.

[39:28] » How many residents were there estimated to be in the township?

[39:31] » Did you have the list that I sent you? >> How many bins were you providing?

[39:35] » So based on what Republic told us is the number I gave her in the list.

[39:40] » 567. I think she's going to confirm.

[40:03] » Oh, sorry. I'm I'm Alan Clawson and I am the district manager um from the St.

[40:08] Cloud and Winstead sites. Uh this so St. Cloud will be servicing this. Um all of

[40:14] the trash will end up it'll go to the St. Cloud transfer station and then on

[40:18] to the Minneapolis Murf for sorting. So

[40:27] » yeah. So the trucks all come out of St. Cloud too.

[40:29] » Yeah, we'll call Yep. They'll come out of St. Cloud.

[40:46] Oh, my phone. It doesn't give me the number.

[41:03] » And I got the Western Republic.

[41:07] 561

[41:16] » 56 >> I don't I'm just on the Was there any

[41:20] hang-ups or anything so far like on the contract side of anything or anything?

[41:24] » Oh, you know, just the fun little attorney chat. Um, so yeah, so I sent

[41:29] her the original contract that Curry had done when we signed up with the public

[41:34] and so then um sent that after with her then sent that

[41:40] to now Mark All sites at Curry. >> Oh, okay.

[41:44] » He's the newer. >> Yep. And so then he made his revisions

[41:46] and then I sent it back and now she just got that copy back with their last few

[41:50] modifications and I sent that to Mark today. So by next week we should be able

[41:54] to >> wrap her up.

[41:56] » Awesome.

[42:02] » And then from my end, how how does billing how does billing work? So with

[42:06] Republic, I knew the amount each month it was the same amount each month. Can

[42:12] we expect that? Well, it depends on charges.

[42:22] Right.

[42:38] So, we meet once a month, >> right? And it's the first Monday of the

[42:42] month. And so, I need that invoice by the Wednesday before,

[42:49] I mean, Thursday at the latest. And then Friday, prepare

[42:55] » before [laughter] the first Monday of the month. I know it's not always a set

[42:58] date, but it's the Wednesday before the first Monday of the month.

[43:04] And then I hope you're lenient with if we don't get that right and I just base

[43:10] it on the last months and if there's like an extra charge, I hope we don't

[43:15] get into this hole of, you know, late charges and all that because we really

[43:20] only do week and I can't issue a check outside.

[43:32] » Okay. So, yeah, if we get it and it can be emailed, please not mail, not snail

[43:37] mail. >> Okay.

[43:43] Sorry, you're being selfish, but then I fall into the late charges and then

[43:47] you're

[43:55] » Thank you. And I know that there's one last thing because this is what I

[43:58] foresee happening. Um, when you guys granted, we're putting out

[44:03] a newsletter which is hopefully going to notify all the residents of all of this,

[44:07] right? But I have a feeling like 40% of the township is not even going to look

[44:10] at this newsletter and they're suddenly going to see this green garbage can at

[44:14] the end of their driveway and I don't know who they're going to call

[44:18] [laughter] the phone number on those bins.

[44:20] » Yeah. And do they have a speaker? >> They usually come with a sticker.

[44:24] » Sweet. They give you guys call. >> I'm hoping you don't get the

[44:29] [clears throat] whatever number till Jamie and I.

[44:33] » Yeah. Otherwise, I mean, I >> we can obviously business card.

[44:38] » Well, and I'll put it on our website if they don't read the newsletter and

[44:42] they're not going to write read our either, but we'll put a blast on the

[44:45] site. >> Who doesn't?

[44:46] » I'll put a banner on top of our website. >> Uh, but you know what I would suggest if

[44:50] you don't mind? So, like I have a separate cell phone on for the township.

[44:53] I'm going to update my voicemail to simply state that statement. So, it

[44:57] might not be bad for like >> anything we can that has a voicemail on

[45:01] it just to have that statement on there. if you're calling regarding the waste

[45:04] management. Yeah. >> Recycling cans. It was in the township

[45:08] newsletter. We changed companies. >> Sure. That's a good idea.

[45:14] » So,

[45:22] » no, not not at least at my sites. >> I you know I mean

[45:28] » great sales pitch for you to get garbage.

[45:32] » [clears throat] >> What about um uh the

[45:38] knowledge, right? I mean, you know, this go this can go in this can and this

[45:43] cannot go in this can. >> Is there sorting instructions on the

[45:47] can? Kind of like our republic cans have that, you know. There are

[45:59] also some of the diare

[46:13] I'll put on our site and that's where I'll reference people. those little tips

[46:17] and tricks on your calendar. I think that's

[46:21] » I'm I'm assuming. Have you guys I mean there's nothing

[46:25] » different than like what Republic's recycling restrictions were.

[46:35] » We We're gonna we'll bring it up. >> Stand. Yeah.

[46:40] » We got a onehour PowerPoint. Okay. Please.

[46:45] » [laughter] >> This is how you put your recycling in

[46:48] the can. >> Here's a video of the history of waste

[46:52] management.

[46:56] » Do you have that calendar or will you soon?

[46:58] » Oh, I sent it to you. But let me let me forward it to you. Forward it to

[47:03] » then I can put it out at next week's annual meeting. Not that we get a lot of

[47:06] attendance there either. >> Well, it'd be nice to I mean I don't

[47:09] know what it looks like if we printed some out.

[47:12] Okay. Thanks. I can print them too if they're in.

[47:22] » Any other things from you guys that we need to be aware of or look out for

[47:27] » as far as signing the new [clears throat]

[47:30] contract? Um, >> should

[47:34] Yep. Perfect. That's what I was wondering.

[47:38] » Yep.

[47:50] Absolutely. Um >> how are we going to

[47:56] » when you call them tomorrow, see what they say and and then reach back out to

[48:00] us. Please give us a of the the email and then one of us will reach back out

[48:04] to them and then and coordinate with that at least or let's actually get it

[48:08] in an email form from them just so we have a date and instructions from them

[48:12] on how they want to receive them back. It's probably the best way just so we

[48:16] have it writing >> generally at least us as a company and I

[48:20] think them too they like to do it on a service day and they kind of follow the

[48:23] trucks so they can get grab empty containers

[48:26] » is [snorts] what I assumed was going to happen.

[48:27] » Yeah. So probably on the 26th their last day or whatever most likely. But but

[48:31] let's coordinate like like Yeah. >> We don't want to

[48:35] » No. >> No. We're going to get clarification.

[48:36] » No. And then that's going to start that's going to start the panic when

[48:39] people come home and their cans are gone. Right. And

[48:42] » you know well I suppose no they'll have two days two days before. Right. Right.

[48:45] Okay. Two days. >> No worries. You're going to have to chip

[48:49] for by then. That's why I'm asking. [laughter]

[48:54] » I've already thought of that.

[48:59] Kelly's taking my position here in another month or so. Well, she's on that

[49:04] baby off the hook. [laughter] >> Just start with a bang, right?

[49:09] » Update the voicemail. >> Oh my gosh.

[49:17] » That's wonderful. I appreciate it. Cool. Anything else?

[49:22] Well, with that, I will make a motion once um we get the final draft back from

[49:28] approval from everybody to sign the contract um outside of our regular

[49:32] meeting. >> I will second.

[49:34] » Having a second. All in favor by saying I

[49:37] » I

[49:40] » thank you. And I know we still have to and then touch base on the queen of day

[49:45] stuff. Yes,

[49:49] » I did. >> Yeah, I told her what we normally had

[49:53] and went through and what our tentative date is.

[49:56] » Yeah. >> How we made changes this year.

[50:00] » 14th is May 16th is a Saturday. >> Saturday.

[50:05] » Oh, May 16th.

[50:11] » Is that the cleanup date? >> Clean up.

[50:13] » Y I'm going to be in Vermont. I found out last week. So, I will not be able to

[50:17] help you guys. >> No problem.

[50:19] » Deal with humanity. >> Hey, you bailed me out last week. You go

[50:23] have fun. >> All the enjoyment

[50:26] that I'm going to miss out. [laughter] >> Yeah. May 16th. I was scared there. I

[50:31] was I was scared there for a second that we put the wrong date on them. Sorry to

[50:35] interrupt. What are your expectations?

[50:44] » We definitely need the ro the dumpsters. Um if you have staff, um we, you know,

[50:49] one or two people would be greatly appreciated, but we, you know, one or

[50:52] two is probably

[50:56] » We would need three. >> And I think

[51:00] » Yeah, I told her how many. And then because we had live trucks that would

[51:02] squish crap and then we had bins and overflow and

[51:06] » Yeah. And we're and we're reducing it to, you know, just garbage this year or

[51:11] trash where no electronics, no scrap steel, that kind of stuff. So

[51:17] » yeah,

[51:21] » sure. >> Awesome. Thank you.

[51:26] » And it will be on our property down the road here. So, I mean, if I mean, as far

[51:30] as pick up and drop off, too, we should be we should be pretty close.

[51:33] » And I told her that, too. >> Thank you.

[51:42] » Thanks for working on that. >> Mhm.

[51:45] » So, I'll probably pull a can. I know we have no idea, but there's a can in here,

[51:49] » like a recycling can. >> Yeah. And I've never put it out because

[51:52] there's like two cans in there and it's just So, please don't have one.

[51:58] I mean, >> was our address

[52:00] » 500? >> Was our address on the list?

[52:03] » That is my opinion, right? Because I mean, I take the garbage hole, the

[52:08] little garbage. >> Totally understand. We don't need to do

[52:10] that. >> Why pay for a can?

[52:11] » It did get filled up with garbage a time or two. I remember Dave Johnson being

[52:15] upset because it sat on the porch and somebody filled it with garbage.

[52:18] [laughter] >> Oh man, that would be frustrating. So,

[52:23] I'll take the can and just put it at the end of my road

[52:27] or at the end of my driveway. >> What is the technical address here?

[52:31] » 21367.

[52:44] » Yep. It's on the list. So, I'll email her not to 21637

[52:50] remove. >> I mean, if you guys are okay with that,

[52:55] I just don't feel like if we don't use it recycle

[52:57] » makes sense. >> Unit

[53:01] that's what happens with >> that. That alone there will will make up

[53:05] the fuel search charge fuel. If you want to bring it over, you can be

[53:12] a great time to change contract. Right. Right. the time of the war.

[53:17] » Clearly selfish last years. >> I hear you. I hear you.

[53:24] » No. >> Okay. Yeah, I'll let her on that.

[53:28] » All right. Um, so might as well just stick with unfinished

[53:33] business real quick. So, we're going to skip one and two and three. Okay.

[53:37] » Unless somebody's heard from St. Augusta.

[53:40] » I heard an okay. >> Well, let's just talk about one and two

[53:42] of course quick. >> Okay. Uh, like if we're going to keep

[53:44] table month, do we just want to leave them as is or where are we?

[53:48] » Yeah, I I say after next I say we we look back at them next next

[53:54] meeting, you know. Um, >> it's really ordinance number seven. Like

[54:01] we just really need to come to common ground on

[54:04] » Can I read what you said in November? >> Yeah.

[54:06] » Because you did your research, right? >> No, you're right.

[54:08] » Yeah. Planning Commission Matt made their recommendations specifically

[54:12] regarding section 6.2 accessory structures. The attorney reviewed and

[54:17] advised no changes were needed, but the topic was taken to consider aligning our

[54:21] ordinance to be more consistent with Stern's 439.

[54:26] Uh um discussion included allowing accessory prior to a main structure and

[54:31] including a timing clause, allowing an accessory similar to 439 or leave or

[54:37] leaving our ordinance as is.

[54:43] » Yeah, you want more behind that too. The the reason being is because construction

[54:47] site permits are reviewed by two different agencies. Right now, if it's

[54:50] in Lakeshore, Lakeshore allows it because they read it differently. Um

[54:56] whereas in any other property myself and Curry

[55:02] have I have to go with what Curry says. Curry believes that it's primary and you

[55:06] have to have a residential property first. So it it aligns it with the

[55:11] county. So then the person looking at the construction site permit.

[55:14] » But didn't the county and Curry not agree?

[55:18] » Correct. >> Yes. That's what I'm saying.

[55:19] » Yeah. >> And my opinion is if we leave it as is

[55:22] something in Lakes Shore might end up being different. But at the end of the

[55:24] day, in my opinion, Lakes Shore is a lot more strict. So, people are going to get

[55:28] real bucky real fast if they don't like it out there.

[55:31] » You know what I mean? It doesn't pertain to us anyways.

[55:37] » Well, they they are allowed to have accessory structures out there, but this

[55:40] is just saying you have to have a house first.

[55:43] I feel like I know this and this is where we kind of got hung up because I

[55:46] be quite honest with you. I was I was the oddball saying, "Hey, man. I think

[55:50] an accessory should come first or be able to, you know, and I still feel that

[55:54] way." >> So, I'm just on the the lake shore, no

[55:59] matter what, is going to go through Sterns County.

[56:02] I I feel I feel I I'm in I'm in this weird spot where like if there is a

[56:07] plan, you know, for a main structure, but that accessory building is help

[56:13] helping or getting them to that main structure. Why why not? If they put it

[56:18] on the same permit, I allow it. >> If there's a timeline done during the

[56:21] same permit, >> then yes, but

[56:27] premises to not have residential lots. It just for decades just have the pole

[56:32] shed on them and then it just becomes dumpy storage.

[56:36] » Yeah. But I mean in that in that situation I mean that that that is going

[56:41] to have probably its own community set of guidelines and rules in it to start

[56:47] with community or you know if it's a if it's a

[56:52] uh housing um like >> hidden river or something like that. You

[56:59] know they're going to have their own they're going to have their own set of

[57:01] rules to follow. >> Edier didn't have any of that. Well, I

[57:05] think they did, but nothing followed. >> They never had any of those ordinances.

[57:11] » I mean, it just >> because it was Barry and who else came

[57:16] in >> that that shed is kind of what sparked

[57:18] this to start with. >> It did. um is is what what all

[57:23] » it's been an ongoing thing for years. >> But that's what brought that's what

[57:27] brought it back to life again this last time was was was the shed,

[57:31] » you know, and the way it got put in and >> the one on the inside corner.

[57:34] » Yeah. The and the person was good about it. He came in too

[57:37] » and talked to us. But >> so I and I I get that I get that side

[57:42] too. But once you once you get out of a

[57:46] development, you know what I mean? and and

[57:50] I I I really struggle with that. >> So yeah, I would say

[57:54] » just to your comment >> sub like developments or subdivisions

[57:57] are going to have to go through the township regardless going forward. So

[58:01] then it would be on current board to make sure those stipulations would be in

[58:05] said stuff and then the other scenarios like Curry says technically reads fine.

[58:12] I'm not about to tell somebody that has a 20 acre parcel that they can't put a

[58:16] shed up. >> No way.

[58:18] » It's just my stance. >> I understand.

[58:20] » Well, and then the hard part too is anybody that has that that's

[58:23] » it's not >> zone agricultural. They can do it

[58:25] anyways to start with right now. No one telling everybody else aren't generally

[58:29] generated from the 20 acre parcel with a shed in. That's it's it's the Woods Edge

[58:33] addition. That's where it comes from. It's not the larger.

[58:37] » We can stipulate that. Am I right in saying that, James?

[58:40] » Right. all the subdivision like if a development were to come in that has to

[58:44] go through us for approval, right? >> Yes. Because it has Well, it's going to

[58:49] have to be zone that reszone. Yeah. >> Yes. And no, we can't add those

[58:53] stipulations. >> Why?

[58:55] » That's a subdivision agreement that's only enforceable through um

[59:02] I can't remember what they're called, but the housing associations. And that's

[59:05] the problem we had with Woods Edge is that they have to build a housing

[59:07] association before they can enforce it because it's not by ordinance. It has to

[59:11] be by ordinance in order to be enforceable.

[59:13] » Yeah. >> The recording laws and stuff like that.

[59:15] » They never had an association from day one.

[59:18] » And so we had to tell them to make an association

[59:20] » stipulations. I I remember that they were coming in and they wanted the

[59:24] township to >> association.

[59:27] Crazy amount of legal fees. They have association fees. That's what pays for

[59:31] their sewer and water and all that. or

[59:35] » I missed it because everybody was talking, but there was another point I

[59:39] was going to make to it and I can't remember what it was. Oh, uh, you're

[59:42] incorrect, though. When it comes to agricultural zoning, agricultural zoning

[59:45] under 10 acres is not considered egg anymore.

[59:48] » No, I get that, but I have 30 acres in my name right now that I could not build

[59:53] a house on, but I can go build a couple egg buildings on them right now

[59:56] tomorrow. >> Yeah. But

[1:00:00] you know I so >> if it's under 10 acres it's

[1:00:05] automatically zoned R10 for use purposes and stuff like that. If it's under five

[1:00:09] acres it's zone R1. I have to look up that law.

[1:00:17] » So we should so we should penalize the people that only have 10 acre

[1:00:22] » hobby farms and >> people have limited number of animals

[1:00:27] pigs. Yeah, I know.

[1:00:28] » Then they probably shouldn't have sheds.

[1:00:33] » I'm just saying, you know, to me to me it just makes no sense.

[1:00:36] » I agree. But in St. Paul, we can't have chickens.

[1:00:40] » Well, maybe you should go, you know, protest that. I don't know.

[1:00:43] » I don't know. I don't have chickens. >> Okay. So, I like just to keep going. So,

[1:00:48] is number seven. Okay. Like I I say we just leave it as as right now because it

[1:00:53] is. We're just kicking the can at this point is my opinion. I'll make a motion

[1:00:57] to leave ordinance number seven as it is.

[1:01:00] » I will second. >> Second. All in favor by saying I.

[1:01:04] » I. >> I. Yes. It's good.

[1:01:06] » Okay. What about number eight? >> That I have not I got to dig more.

[1:01:10] » Okay. So, we can table that one. >> Yes.

[1:01:12] » Okay.

[1:01:25] Number three, anything from St. Augusta? >> No.

[1:01:32] » Go here. >> Um, spring cleanup day. Anything else

[1:01:36] new than what we just discussed tonight? Should be good to go. We The only thing

[1:01:41] with that was we have to figure out a day to go look at the property. Um, we

[1:01:45] probably can do that after next meeting, set that date, I guess. But something we

[1:01:49] need to do. Maybe we just meet over there early before meeting or something

[1:01:52] like that or whatever. But it it's it we're gonna have to post it. That's why,

[1:01:58] you know, do we have any meetings where it's still light out? Take a field trip

[1:02:02] before it starts. >> Well, daylight savings times is next.

[1:02:05] » Yeah. >> So, we should be fine next meeting.

[1:02:09] » Okay. Yeah, we'll talk about it more next meeting, but we just need to go

[1:02:11] look at that and see what what we can do really.

[1:02:17] Um, annual meeting finalization.

[1:02:22] Everybody got what they need for next >> agenda. I gave you guys a copy of the

[1:02:26] agenda. I inputed um 169 based on Todd's email for Annadale and I inputed

[1:02:33] um 98 for Clearwater. That's not the number we received from the city, but my

[1:02:42] understanding is that we're keeping it at 98.

[1:02:46] When I went down and met with Clearwater, their preliminary because

[1:02:50] they haven't done their budget yet. Preliminary 2027 number is $90,669

[1:02:58] for the year of 2027.

[1:03:02] Annendale raised their rates. They do they cover 169 units, which are 169

[1:03:09] properties that have structures on them. They raised it $5 from $95 to $100 a

[1:03:17] unit. So it's $16,9. They raised it $845

[1:03:24] for the year 2027.

[1:03:34] » So, do you want me to change the budget for the

[1:03:44] short? I think with the way they tend to seem to yo-yo next year they'll shoot up

[1:03:49] » next year. >> So I think if we can just keep that

[1:03:51] money in reserve we'll have it there to help with their

[1:03:55] » Well, doesn't the contract expire? >> 2027.

[1:03:59] » Oh, it's 27. Okay. >> So,

[1:04:03] » so next year. >> Correct.

[1:04:06] » So they'll have to >> negotiating

[1:04:09] contract. >> So we're going to have a meeting. It's

[1:04:13] after this meeting with Scott Miller and um Crannle

[1:04:20] and we don't we haven't set a date, but they're thinking in April or May, we'll

[1:04:25] have a date that we're going to start with the fire commission.

[1:04:28] » Oh, go over the contracting and see what may or may not need to be changed. and

[1:04:34] Cat is trying to get a meeting scheduled with the mayor so that we can get a

[1:04:37] workshop set up so they can explain in detail every line item and where the

[1:04:42] funds are and have gone and how it goes forward.

[1:04:45] » Thank you. >> So we get that set up. We'll let you

[1:04:47] know too long time. >> Yeah, it's it's challenging.

[1:04:52] » Yeah, it's awesome. >> So we going to leave the 98.

[1:04:58] » I mean I would. It's just >> I think it's a good idea.

[1:05:02] And I got the road report from Jamie. I got the schedule nine from uh Jean. And

[1:05:08] Jean is gonna get me because all of this has to be printed for people to get back

[1:05:15] on next Tuesday and you're going to get me the

[1:05:18] final levy sheet. >> Right. Right.

[1:05:21] » Todd, do you want to if you want to since we're on the fire this well

[1:05:27] estimate here? So I met with the two fire chiefs. I met with Johnny Schmidt.

[1:05:32] He took me for a tour of the fire hall and very interesting and got, you know,

[1:05:37] an opinion from somebody in the trenches. And so we talked about a lot

[1:05:42] of things and, you know, there was that proposed watering dry well down on Long

[1:05:46] and Crooked. >> Yeah.

[1:05:48] » He's not a big fan of putting lake water into a truck for obvious reasons. Um, I

[1:05:54] chatted with Annale, the fire chief. Um, there is one down by

[1:06:00] Maple Hill Resort that pulls out of Goodwater Lake. Apparently, they've used

[1:06:05] it. He didn't think it was he thought it was a good idea. John does not like

[1:06:11] them. Um, so we chatted about a lot of things and then I just got in touch with

[1:06:15] Raleigh Werner because there's talk of this or has been and to put in and

[1:06:22] put in a commercial well and um this is which is assumed you were going to get

[1:06:27] about 400 gallons a minute. They put down an 8 in ca metal casing. Then they

[1:06:31] put down a 4 in where they pull the water up. This total these two numbers

[1:06:36] together come up to $34,15726.

[1:06:41] that would get the water to the surface. It needs three-phase power which would

[1:06:46] have to be brought over an electrical service put on it. And then this does

[1:06:50] not include anything. The welds just cap.

[1:06:52] » So it needs they can't pull it. >> We would have to person have to have

[1:06:57] contact with the fire department what kind of connections they want. I looked

[1:07:00] at St. August. They have an overhead feed they can dump it in and then they

[1:07:05] also can side connect to the truck too and pump it. So whatever those costs

[1:07:10] would be to run three phase over and have an electrical service put in. I

[1:07:14] mean you can make it up5 $10,000. Uh the connections, you know, I don't know what

[1:07:21] they would be. You can make it up 5,000 bucks, 10,000. We would have to put in a

[1:07:27] little bit more of a road and so we could run heavy heavy trucks in there if

[1:07:33] this ever went forward. I don't know if I'm 100% sold. I was going to get in

[1:07:37] touch with Matt and see if there's any grants that are available for this type

[1:07:40] of stuff. >> So, just a little informative thing.

[1:07:44] Like I said, I'm not >> Yeah,

[1:07:46] » I'm not sold on it, but I'm not against it either.

[1:07:48] » What' you think of at our lot over there?

[1:07:51] » Looked at walked around and >> Yeah.

[1:07:54] » You know, Tom had told me a few years back that Mullers right

[1:08:01] across where Don is that that whole field is is a a feed lot.

[1:08:07] I don't know. I've never researched it, but Tom had said that then you need a

[1:08:11] thousand foot setback because when I was walking the lot, there's a survey marker

[1:08:17] with a pink flag on it, which looks about 1,000 ft from the other side of

[1:08:23] the road. So, he had said that, you know, you can never put a structure

[1:08:27] there because you have to be 1,000 ft from a feed lot. Is that totally true? I

[1:08:30] don't know.

[1:08:35] had to deal with our house. >> Okay.

[1:08:53] » Oh, okay. I mean I'm James

[1:08:59] 85%

[1:09:03] » then that makes developing that lot a lot more options then

[1:09:06] » so so Dan has a lot in his yard which is the farm next to us but there's nothing

[1:09:17] » so right across from our other lot. Yeah, Don is the one that

[1:09:29] » But I think it's a great uh uh thing to to look at to consider.

[1:09:36] » Absolutely. Well, and and I thought you had to

[1:09:40] refresh me, Jay, but wasn't there an opportunity for a grant for the one

[1:09:46] » in the lake? That might have been from the

[1:09:48] » DNR. That was a DNR. >> Okay. Then I did also contact my

[1:09:52] insurance agent. There's it's a lot of variables to that

[1:09:57] too, but the insurance industry has a variable one to 10 that they use your

[1:10:03] proximity to a fire department and or water and andor the call rating of the

[1:10:08] fire department. And then all fire departments have a 1 to 10 rating. Um my

[1:10:12] insurance personally talked to my agent, they don't use that system. They have a

[1:10:17] one, two, or three. And I'm a number two proximity to Clear Water and Dale. So,

[1:10:21] it actually wouldn't benefit me, but some homeowners it would be a benefit,

[1:10:25] too. >> Yeah.

[1:10:26] » And it can also benefit the fire department. It can increase their

[1:10:32] rating. >> Do we know what the rating is out of

[1:10:34] curiosity? >> What's that?

[1:10:35] » Do we know what the rating is? >> Clear St. Cloud is three.

[1:10:40] I did ask them. I'm trying to remember. I don't want to make them up to look

[1:10:43] bad, but four or five. >> Yeah. Just saying.

[1:10:49] » Is Jamie good on the road report? in their biggest truck, they can only haul

[1:10:52] 3,000 gallons. >> Todd, are you do you want to add the

[1:10:58] waste management to your um township information and update or I can do it I

[1:11:04] can talk about it before the levy?

[1:11:17] » It's really just giving to us to us. It's just more or less giving them the

[1:11:21] dates and why we did what we did. >> We don't have to give them exactly the

[1:11:25] annual agenda. >> I mean, or I can add it on at the end of

[1:11:27] the road report, too, if it's easier for >> you given me a list here a while ago.

[1:11:32] What you want me to cover about that one with me, but

[1:11:34] » add it at the end of add it at the end of mine.

[1:11:38] » I I just some some place to touch on.

[1:11:43] » I don't have to re reprint this. You're just gonna verbally say

[1:11:49] that or do you want me to put that on here for you?

[1:11:51] » No, I'm just gonna verbally add it after my

[1:11:54] » yard. Yep. Okay. Thanks. >> Just so Todd doesn't have to deal with

[1:11:57] that.

[1:12:04] » And I'm just gonna just do exactly like Tom did last year,

[1:12:09] word for word, because we're not changing anything.

[1:12:15] » Rinse and repeat.

[1:12:19] Can we we start with this is the first time that anybody has not had to

[1:12:23] increase anything this year.

[1:12:29] They're not asking for no more money. >> Don't worry, I wouldn't mind.

[1:12:33] » It still seems like a lot of money, but [laughter]

[1:12:38] » All right. Where are we at? Reference discussion.

[1:12:41] » Yes. So, >> uh, the deputy treasurer or appointed

[1:12:45] now treasurer, uh, yeah. Um, and, uh, I and the deputy clerk met and we, we just

[1:12:52] have to make a record on the something on the record that we

[1:12:57] completed our records destruction for the year 2025

[1:13:01] policy. >> Fantastic.

[1:13:08] designed to max.

[1:13:13] » I don't have the packet pulled up for building permit.

[1:13:18] » No, I didn't print that for three. >> Yeah. Is it?

[1:13:24] » I don't forgot to print it.

[1:13:37] uh two permits this month.

[1:13:44] One for rework, one for remodel permit here today is just due.

[1:13:49] » Awesome. >> And James issued one construction uh

[1:13:55] site on Cascade.

[1:13:58] » And um did you have a driveway, too? We didn't on 4th Avenue like down from

[1:14:05] the bottom of my house. We got a brand new driver.

[1:14:12] » It was the guy that did the dirt work here.

[1:14:21] » Matthews. >> Oh, him.

[1:14:24] » No, he wasn't on any of your reports. I just I mean it looked it looked it

[1:14:29] looked really legit. So I didn't >> I go out to

[1:14:32] » I was gone and then I came back and there was a driveway there with a cover.

[1:14:35] » Because we have to do the sighting triangle. I can't issue one unless I'm

[1:14:38] actually there. So that's one where you have to like visually see that you have

[1:14:44] 200 ft. >> So you're going to go out there and I

[1:14:47] don't have to move this one. >> 200 feet from where?

[1:14:50] » A visual sight line. So you have to go in

[1:14:52] » because it's like on the property. You have to go 12 feet into the property um

[1:14:56] in the middle of the driveway as if you were sitting in a car and it has to be 3

[1:15:00] to four feet off the ground. I place a ball on a tripad and then you have to go

[1:15:05] walk the road 200 feet from both directions for a visual sight line.

[1:15:08] That's the sighting triangle. That's what it's called for.

[1:15:10] » Yeah, you'll see it when you go past my house. Can't miss it. It's that you know

[1:15:14] you know those two that you just g you gave you know there's one it's it's

[1:15:18] literally >> right after that. right after that one.

[1:15:22] Probably within 100 feet of it. >> No, I didn't.

[1:15:27] » Anyways, >> cool.

[1:15:29] » Maybe you'll have one next month then. Um,

[1:15:34] » I had nothing for right away planning and zoning updates.

[1:15:38] » I have a few.

[1:15:44] So, I got

[1:15:48] uh I got an email and I wanted to discuss this before I officially said

[1:15:54] yes, no, or send it to the attorney. Um so, what I have is I have an email from

[1:16:01] the property that Carolyn Bush just sold um or is selling. They're in the process

[1:16:05] right now of selling it. It's the triangle um 200th and uh 145 right there

[1:16:11] right by Quick Trip. It's the triangle um right at the bottom.

[1:16:14] » Yeah. Yeah, I've seen where the there was a for sale sign there or something.

[1:16:17] The one right at the intersection. >> Yep. So, there's a

[1:16:21] » true behind it. >> Yep. Or they're in the process of buying

[1:16:25] it. They want to know really quickly what they can and cannot do with the

[1:16:28] property. Um so, I got an email on Saturday and um they were asking if they

[1:16:33] can put a caretaker's apartment on top of the industrial park.

[1:16:39] They want to put a like a kind of like a mini mall kind of thing there with four

[1:16:44] different properties and they want to have a caretaker property um on top. So,

[1:16:48] they sent me the the blueprints and stuff like that asking if this would be

[1:16:52] possible for a caretaker unit. Um it says not connected to the shop. Um

[1:16:56] they'd want guidance and stuff like that. Sterns County possibly said maybe,

[1:17:00] you know, conditional use permit because they have to send it back to me for a

[1:17:02] yes or no. Um, so I took a look at it and I I went through the ordinance and I

[1:17:08] don't feel comfortable with it because of number one there is and I will read

[1:17:13] what I sent them um because I think that the ordinance pretty much says no

[1:17:20] multiple times. Um, so it it is not in permitted uses, provisional uses or

[1:17:25] anything like that. There is a specific line in conditional uses that says any

[1:17:29] use of the land that is consistent with the purpose of the industrial park which

[1:17:33] is not expressly prohibited or provided in the industrial district and which by

[1:17:38] its nature does not constitute either a public or private nuisance because of

[1:17:42] noise, dirt, soil, offensive odor, secondary charact characteristics or

[1:17:46] unsanitary conditions. I don't feel it meets that, but that's the only

[1:17:50] provision we could put it in for a conditional use to allow a residential

[1:17:53] unit there. So, I I sent it back and said, "This

[1:17:58] would be the slim chance that you could put a residential unit in an industrial

[1:18:02] park." Um, and she had said, "What's that?

[1:18:06] » Who wants to do this?" >> Uh, the dry well place that's buying it.

[1:18:09] Um, yeah. >> Um, and so they had also sent me their

[1:18:14] blueprints. They want to put a four bedroomedroom

[1:18:17] um caretaker property on there. Um, and and I thought that was kind of odd.

[1:18:23] » It looks more Where does where does this go wrong in the future? You know what I

[1:18:27] mean? Like >> So that's my whole point. I said, you

[1:18:29] know, we have the non-conforming properties already that are residential

[1:18:32] in the industrial park and we've had complaints in here numerous times of

[1:18:36] everything and we have to tell them over and over again, you are living in a

[1:18:40] industrial park. >> You're the problem, not them.

[1:18:43] » This plan that you looked at, I mean, it looks more barracks than anything. It's

[1:18:46] probably for employees. It's four bedroom, one kitchen, one bathroom,

[1:18:51] second floor.

[1:18:54] I've got it right here. I downloaded it to make it easier to see. Um, but the

[1:19:02] other thing is is that so I I I don't know if this is something that

[1:19:07] the that you guys should weigh in on because you guys would be the board of

[1:19:10] appeals for this. Um, and so I don't know if I should take it to the planning

[1:19:14] commission, but I feel if I take it to the planning commission,

[1:19:17] » you're not living in anywhere. You can't sell marijuana out of it.

[1:19:22] curious be the next thing. >> Well, so this is what they're looking

[1:19:27] at. Um, I don't see that that's a residential unit. I don't see that as

[1:19:33] any of those uses that we can allow an industrial park. I think that it should

[1:19:37] either a be the decision of the planning commission, so we should convenient that

[1:19:40] or we should send it to the attorney if anybody else feels that my

[1:19:49] reading of the whole ordinance is wrong. Todd who oversees pling and zoning

[1:19:53] agrees with >> I mean I see an issue that's rental

[1:19:55] property. Are you going to have a bunch of rental properties vehicles? Could it

[1:20:01] » we can't legally assume that but we have to go by the ordinance but it there's no

[1:20:05] presidential allowed in this ordinance at all?

[1:20:08] » I don't think it's a good idea. It's going to be problematic. But

[1:20:12] » I feel that if if anybody wants to to I say that if we want to take to the

[1:20:19] attorney or if we want to take it to planning commission that we have an

[1:20:21] application which has an escrow which allows us

[1:20:24] » I wouldn't go to an attorney unless we have money.

[1:20:26] » Open up commercial buildings. >> Exact

[1:20:30] units in all the commercial buildings. >> Yeah, I can do it.

[1:20:34] » Yeah. So, >> good idea in my opinion, but

[1:20:37] » yeah, that's what I felt. I literally read the ordinance twice, read it to

[1:20:42] Todd. Todd said he didn't feel comfortable. Um, so I wanted to address

[1:20:45] it here just to say this is what they want to do. Um, the next Oh, so then I

[1:20:52] got to set the computer down so I can read the the the other thoughts that

[1:20:56] they have behind it, which I don't feel comfortable with either, and and I can

[1:20:59] definitely read why. Um, one of them is the state law says they can't do it.

[1:21:05] Um they said um they are looking at otherwise doing a separate single

[1:21:10] auxiliary. Oh wait that's the previous one. Um specifically they're wondering

[1:21:15] if there's any other interpretation or mechanic where the zoning framework

[1:21:18] would allow a limited caretaker or employee housing in any capacity. I

[1:21:22] don't believe so. Um would placing a temporary or semi-permanent structure

[1:21:27] such as a camping trailer, manufactured unit or job site trailer on a concrete

[1:21:31] pad Yeah,

[1:21:34] » be appropriate. And I said, all right, I haven't replied yet, but I no, that is

[1:21:38] against state law. We cannot allow a temporary dwelling. Um, that would be an

[1:21:42] interim use permit if anything, but this is not under interim use um

[1:21:49] uh uh what requirements or whatever. So, this wouldn't meet that at all. Um, so

[1:21:56] they're trying to figure out like how to do it and I don't see any way in an

[1:22:01] industrial park or with the state law with temporary dwellings that we could

[1:22:04] allow this. So, um, I I'm going to send it back for no if they want to apply for

[1:22:09] a conditional use permit. We can take it to the planning commission, take it to

[1:22:11] the attorney, and then the escrow would pay for attorney's fees that that then

[1:22:15] we can get Curry involved and he can say what he would like to go past.

[1:22:22] » Awesome. That's why I like having planning updates. Oh, another thing. Um,

[1:22:25] I did just pull up the ordinance for what we had going over it again seven.

[1:22:29] We had nothing in there for agricultural. It was all for residential

[1:22:32] units. So, >> I wasn't I was just making the argument

[1:22:35] of >> we you can do it on one and you can't

[1:22:38] the other. Not that we were making a change to one or the other, but in the

[1:22:41] end >> Yeah, I I just thought that was

[1:22:45] interesting. So, but that's all I have. Um, yeah, we had one conditional use

[1:22:49] permit. I had one that I sent to the county that the county has since

[1:22:52] approved and then I've got Jerry's which is pending for septic. So, um once his

[1:22:58] septic permit gets approved, then I can approve the permit. So, that's where

[1:23:01] we're at right now with permits as well.

[1:23:07] Thank you.

[1:23:10] » Correspondence.

[1:23:14] » Sterns County Board of Adjustment to consider request

[1:23:19] uh from Sterns County Land to create a property line less than 50 ft from the

[1:23:24] feed lot structure. >> Deny.

[1:23:27] » Hearing Thursday, March 12th, 6 p.m. >> That's me.

[1:23:31] » Enjoy. Me and Ma got a date that night. [laughter]

[1:23:38] » Um, you guys all get that, right? I mean,

[1:23:40] » yeah, I got it. I was like, "Yeah, Todd." [laughter]

[1:23:44] » Yeah. Todd, do you get those? >> Yeah.

[1:23:47] » Yeah. Okay. Because I think they had 21367 instead of 21364 for you for a

[1:23:52] little bit and then I called them. So, I just wanted to make sure.

[1:23:55] » Okay. I was getting emails of it too also.

[1:23:57] » Okay. >> But, [clears throat] uh, yeah.

[1:24:00] » And then the other respond or do you want to?

[1:24:02] » Oh, I mean I think you guys know what I'm pushing the properties go 25 ft from

[1:24:06] the feet versus >> 50. And if they say no, I'll just move

[1:24:10] the property line and do 50. >> And then uh township legal seminar, the

[1:24:17] Curry Rupy. >> Yep. Saw that.

[1:24:20] » If anybody wants to go, we'll have to That's not till

[1:24:23] » Yeah, we got a June >> because that thing fills up pretty quick

[1:24:26] too from my lure. So, I don't know if we I didn't look on there. I saw it came

[1:24:30] and I kind of read it. >> Want to go? I mean, Todd,

[1:24:33] » would I go? Yeah, I think so. This is >> That was really good. I like that. This

[1:24:36] is >> I'll just You want to just register the

[1:24:38] three of us? >> Yeah.

[1:24:40] » Do you want to go? >> Can I go?

[1:24:42] » Yeah. >> There's a good one.

[1:24:44] » Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. He had some good ones on there,

[1:24:46] too. I remember. I looked at real briefly. I was like, interest.

[1:24:51] » Yep. And I will sign up for that. >> June. Didn't bring my calendar, but I

[1:24:56] don't think I have anything going on. Motion to pay.

[1:25:01] » What was the date on that? >> June 25th.

[1:25:03] » Huh? >> June 25th.

[1:25:05] » That's a long ways away. >> I know.

[1:25:06] » You want me to make that motion now? >> Sure. I'll make a motion

[1:25:10] » um to pay hourly wage and mileage to the Curry Ruby um legal seminars in uh

[1:25:18] Elbertville. Second. Having a second. All in favor

[1:25:22] respond by saying I. >> I.

[1:25:24] » I. Y.

[1:25:35] bills and claims.

[1:25:43] » Check number 9265.

[1:25:53] Short check. >> I'll make a motion to approve bills of

[1:25:57] claims utilizing check numbers 9255 through 9265.

[1:26:03] » I will second. >> I have a second. All in favor respond by

[1:26:06] saying I. I. >> I.

[1:26:09] » Meeting dates. Um annual election next uh that's Tuesday, right? The 10th.

[1:26:17] um from 2 to 8 >> annual meetings right after at

[1:26:22] approximately 8:15 I should say exactly 8:15 p.m. And then right after the next

[1:26:29] day at uh 6:00 pm board of canvas to certify the votes.

[1:26:37] Um the next monthly meeting is April 6 at 7.

[1:26:41] » And then we needed to add >> you needed to add a date to

[1:26:44] » Yep. Yep. The reorganization meeting >> which

[1:26:49] » just do that >> do it the day after the Matt class.

[1:26:53] » Last time we did it that night. >> That night

[1:26:55] » after the class. >> Well, the class is on a Tuesday, right?

[1:26:59] Tuesday the 25th. Is that what day it is?

[1:27:03] » What's going on on the Tuesday the 25th? >> I think it's the 24th.

[1:27:06] » Um, this is going on.

[1:27:12] Yeah, >> those short courses. It's at Holiday

[1:27:18] Inn. Remember I took you to it last year?

[1:27:19] » Oh, remember you got trouble for going in the wrong room?

[1:27:23] » I thought it's because I showed up drunk.

[1:27:25] [laughter]

[1:27:28] » Yeah, I did go in the wrong. >> So,

[1:27:31] » yeah. So, it's on Tuesday. Um, right here, March 24th.

[1:27:36] » Yeah. Didn't we go from there to here? Basically,

[1:27:39] » pick you up again. >> Yep. So, what day is that?

[1:27:42] » Tuesday, March 24th. >> So, then Tuesday, March 24th at

[1:27:46] what time? 6 p.m. >> I'm done with that.

[1:27:57] » What's start time? >> 8 a.m.

[1:28:03] » Oh, registration opens. We got to be there. the whole day. You you don't you

[1:28:08] can go there and just give me your name and then

[1:28:11] » that same day at 6 PM we'll meet here and do our reorganization meeting about

[1:28:16] who's doing what responsibilities and what

[1:28:30] » calendar >> we did. Yep. Forgot to bring that.

[1:28:34] » Um, the other one, uh, last one, uh, local board of equalization and appeals,

[1:28:40] April 8th at 6 p.m. >> Oh, exciting.

[1:28:47] » Everybody should be Well, I I'm curious to see how this year goes because, you

[1:28:50] know what I mean, just because everybody's been

[1:28:54] creeping. Last year was nobody. The year before

[1:28:58] that was one person. >> For what?

[1:29:03] the last two years I think zero the last two years.

[1:29:12] » All right. Well, anything else? >> No.

[1:29:16] » I'll make a motion to adjourn the meeting at 8:29.

[1:29:19] » Second that. >> Got that or Todd got that?

[1:29:24] » Todd can take it. All in favor respond by saying I.

[1:29:27] » I. >> I.

[1:29:29] » Me. >> Um, does anybody use these township

[1:29:32] membership cards? They gave us five or reductions on your

[1:29:38] » I've never found

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