[0:00] I'm foul. I bought the skull sheet. How is that? Love it. Okay. We'll.

[0:20] Okay.

[0:29] It's

[0:31] 530 will bring the work session to order.

[0:35] First item on the work session is battery energy storage.

[0:41] Energy

[1:00] storage webinar that was put on by the Tuck Hill Commission on Tuesday.

[1:07] It was actually pretty good.

[1:09] I'll forward everybody the link or the PDF of the slideshow.

[1:14] So, I'm sad to review these now, this was definitely one of the better ones, and they certainly

[1:23] addressed some of the concerns that we've all expressed about lithium-ion batteries,

[1:27] our safety.

[1:28] They also talked about two fire codes, it was a good weather.

[1:34] With that being said, I think our best, we need to get away from just being in the laboratory

[1:46] We need to get a committee together to actually, you know, go to the finish line and get a piece of legislation or a draft of a legislation that we can hold up all the time.

[1:58] Any more tears?

[2:01] I can join that one.

[2:03] Maybe if we have fired from the fire department on that city.

[2:12] Don't raise your all and at once. I don't know if Charlie has availability on Sunday from 3 to 3.45.

[2:20] No. No. No.

[2:23] No, we got half the rest of the Sucker River Fire District.

[2:26] She is. She is.

[2:30] This really affects you though.

[2:34] It doesn't affect me. You don't weigh a thing in anything.

[2:37] Okay, that's good.

[2:39] That's why I'm wearing on the committee.

[2:42] Well, maybe we'll ask the planning or zoning board and see if we have anybody that would like to join from that.

[2:51] I'd like to get at least three people and I think our next stop for our first stop for that committee is,

[2:56] let's get somebody from that shirt and come in and sit out with us.

[2:58] Yeah, and because I think they have some valuable information that can help us through the process and

[3:05] The representative that was on that by one from my service that hey, we understand the concerns and we understand their local laws very

[3:13] Air because we will help you pay a little bit of the law the generic draft local law that they provide to be your specific

[3:20] Situation, so I think that that got here for a stop

[3:24] whatever they want to tread on this thing forward rather than just letting it sit.

[3:30] Right.

[3:30] It is directly related to long-term utility costs, but that's the bottom line.

[3:36] These systems are designed so that these legacy power plants, fossil-buried fuel power

[3:44] plants they take a long time to fire up and turn off at least 24 hours before

[3:54] they're producing power and so for an example you know in the summertime our

[4:03] peak hours are between three and eight at night five hours a day to fire up a

[4:11] fossil fuel power generating plant is to meet that peak hour demand costs a lot of money.

[4:17] So it drives up the cost of peak hour energy where if you can charge a battery from your

[4:24] off peak hour times put that battery on line during peak hour times it will flatten out

[4:30] the cost for energy during peak hour times.

[4:34] So, in there is a direct correlation between battery energy storage systems and the price

[4:41] we paid for our power.

[4:44] So, you know, to lift the MI on a piece of it, I don't think it's necessarily a great

[4:51] thing for our community with them all along to your fire service, but there are other technologies

[4:58] use out there that that will work that don't have a firehouse firehouse

[5:02] and it will help you in lowering overall utility costs for all the

[5:06] residents of the town. It's never been a change in utility costs. I'm sorry because

[5:12] they purposely, from a service mission purposely,

[5:16] lockball, all of the fossil plants back when they did all of the

[5:19] mergers and they stopped anything from building the power plant being operational and

[5:25] work for the ability in time, they must follow them perfectly, so it's not never going

[5:31] to reduce your costs overall.

[5:33] No, but what it can do is keep from cost rising as fast as they are right now.

[5:37] Yeah, well, it's going to cause the cost to change you because public service mission

[5:42] doesn't know what they're eligible for, either way, it's something that we need to...

[5:50] Yeah, we can still, right, we can still start moving forward, whether we end the moratorium in June or not, we've got to come up with a plan.

[5:58] I mean, I've heard, you know, the governor's just be ready to draft law.

[6:03] No, no, it should, there should be all of, you know, we should have a town board, CBA, play more member, and hopefully something from the fire service or one of the fire services.

[6:13] Yeah, participating in that.

[6:14] Yep.

[6:15] Well, so I was telling Kevin I was driving through Stowe's Vermont a couple of days ago and

[6:22] off in the distance I saw giant clouds of black smoke rolling on as I go and look there's

[6:27] a big fire.

[6:28] I wonder what it is.

[6:30] Then as we drove through solar panels out in the field and next to them to giant battery

[6:36] storage burning.

[6:38] And for green energy, it has some pretty black smoke.

[6:42] I think the lithium ion systems really aren't a good thing for our community.

[6:48] But I think there are other systems that could work and don't have the same fire risk.

[6:55] And do I want to put them in every corner and every corner?

[6:58] No. Who do I think they're sighted appropriately?

[7:02] There's a lot potentially a lot of care about that.

[7:05] but yeah, so.

[7:08] Okay.

[7:09] Yeah, we'll look into getting people on the committee.

[7:14] Thanks for all of your time.

[7:16] No problem.

[7:18] Actually, when we were at the County Planning Symposium,

[7:23] I was in one of the presentations I was in.

[7:25] We talked about that for a while

[7:27] and I got off and they do know it's just on very storage

[7:31] and things we can do to make sure

[7:35] or it meets our local requirements.

[7:38] I mean, to me, yes, the fire code revisions

[7:43] that were made certainly help.

[7:46] I still don't think that lithium ion is...

[7:51] I can really agree with that.

[7:54] I just don't think that's the hat.

[7:56] I don't think the one they're not as efficient

[7:59] in the wintertime to the fire hazard outweighs

[8:04] to me always that you've been at the fire hazard and the burden on the volunteer

[8:08] parts service always. Oh I completely agree but and maybe this group I was

[8:14] in was wrong but they were saying you know it's over a certain size the state

[8:18] can get forced down our roads. No orios does not cover battery energy

[8:24] storage. Not right now current. Right. Right. It currently orios does not cover

[8:31] battery energy storage. So it is truly local right now. It is home rule, local law.

[8:37] Yeah. Applies. All the battery energy storage for any size. And the other piece of

[8:43] battery energy storage that I think we should consider is some of our large industrial users,

[8:48] like United Bush, McLean, specialized packaging, the ground are large factories.

[8:54] There's probably benefit for them to put on-site battery storage in from a power

[9:01] usage standpoint.

[9:03] So rather than paying the elevated commercial power user rates during peak hours, they

[9:09] can put in a battery energy storage system which will ultimately lower their operating cost

[9:15] long-term.

[9:16] And paper itself.

[9:18] Again, maybe not.

[9:19] We do know how to live in Mayon, but holding those companies captive from not being able to

[9:25] evade that capital investment in their facility isn't helping our industrial businesses

[9:37] located in Illinois.

[9:41] Now what?

[9:42] Just so I, because I had someone call about large scale solar or wind, what's the trigger

[9:48] for over us to have a 25 megawatt?

[9:52] Okay, somebody call that wants to do a private or just do a-

[9:56] No, they're a resident call they're asking about because of the solar moratorium and I was telling them that they asked me to go

[10:04] What's the size limit on what becomes out of what takes it out of the town's hands and I said well it have to be large scale

[10:11] I go so could you give us an idea currently like what the megawatts are for the four or five solar projects

[10:17] we have in the town compared to what that scale would be.

[10:22] Right, and the bottom line is you're never going to see a wind project that's less than 25

[10:28] megawatts. Right,

[10:32] scale.

[10:35] Yeah, the economy's the scale though. Right, but you're not going to

[10:38] put up one bit now. Yeah, but to have a solar, right, like for a 25 megawatt solar structure,

[10:45] roughly how many acres do you think that would have to take? To take it into the over as

[10:55] Okay,

[10:58] and you know what people I did explain to them. I go what what can happen as a large format that doesn't have to just take place on one property. It could stretch across different parcels.

[11:11] You know as the wind projects do in Sullivan and what's proposed Portland County.

[11:17] So, you know, when people think, and it's like, well, we don't have a 300 acre parcel

[11:21] they could put it on.

[11:22] It can be piecemealed in an area to get to that number.

[11:27] That's what they're doing on that one, this one by South-East-Kinielis.

[11:33] There's one that's proposed that's not on one parcel, so

[11:45] I just wanted to give, so I knew

[11:47] the number.

[11:48] I didn't know the number offhand to let them.

[11:51] That's a whole part, you know.

[11:52] Yeah.

[11:52] Well, I mean, you know, I told them I go most of our projects here. I go I believe our less than five megawatts

[11:59] And they all sit on 20 to 40 acres from what I gathered and what I remembered loosely from seeing the projects. So

[12:09] Okay

[12:11] Next item the

[12:13] Review of the 2026

[12:17] Pavement Management Plan.

[12:24] Did they all get everybody here? Yeah, it's Frenchie. Yeah, email me.

[12:39] Oh, do you remember the Dean again? I think she, she had in my back it's all I got another one for you.

[12:46] This one that I'm passing on now. Oh, last year's 25 work that Alicia put together.

[12:52] And I did not put that on my thumb drive to share with the public.

[12:56] Mr. Moore has asked for the previous years for a decade of, you know, where did we end

[13:08] up?

[13:08] Because throughout the year with the PMP, the highway superintendent comes every year and

[13:16] you know, we have the proposal, we have the estimated cost, and then we get down to

[13:21] tearing a road apart and it might need more work or it might not necessarily need work.

[13:26] So Mr. Moore is continuously asked the next year of how do we make out did we take care of the roads

[13:32] We had in the plan because what would happen is if another road or we ran out of time just didn't get it done

[13:39] You'd see the road on the plan and then next year it would pop back up and you would wonder why so

[13:46] I will get I knew how much money

[13:49] Right and and one of

[13:51] Well, you know, Mr. Yeager can explain better, but what are the other issues on getting the

[13:56] cost of it when we get a vendor to come in and chip sealer to put stone down?

[14:02] We might be purchasing stone for other projects at the same time.

[14:06] We're bringing stone in for a project.

[14:09] So it gets nobody's measure in it by the truck fuller figuring it out at the end of the

[14:14] day when it's going back out.

[14:15] When did we haul in 700 tons of water crush?

[14:21] When we're at home, trust the law of the art for each project.

[14:26] And to stop a project, there are certain things they can measure

[14:30] at the end when they do the project.

[14:32] So we'll get this sheet up for the 2025 for those that are interested.

[14:39] What you'll see is some of those projects that were grouped

[14:42] or worked that was done by the highway department.

[14:44] of the highway secretary came up with, you know, the time we spent on it, dollar amount

[14:50] of values or what that possibly saved by doing the work in-house.

[14:54] So it's a pretty, pretty good list overall, don't...

[15:00] I don't think we have a total on here. That's the one difference is the overall point. I'm sure it won't match the overall total of what was found either because I'm sure there's bits and pieces that are hard. Yes, she doesn't necessarily for this or you know what I mean. It's not itemized down to. Yeah, but it gives you a much better idea or a word. Yes. Thank you for that word. Yes, over there very much. So.

[15:28] So this year, so you'll see that we do have the Willaparque

[15:33] way storm through a supply project out here.

[15:37] That did not get done last year.

[15:39] The county contract last year escalated significantly.

[15:43] And we simply didn't have enough money to do it without going

[15:46] over budget.

[15:49] The county contract numbers this year.

[15:52] There's a new contractor on county contract.

[15:54] And they actually went back to the whole pricing that was an old contract.

[16:01] So we are, we have signed the contract, they are moving forward, we've got the prevailing

[16:05] weight loss across.

[16:07] They should mobilize to the next 60 days to do that work.

[16:11] So that is our assigned up.

[16:14] The call board replacement, the project's not done, it's 305 here and then the proposed

[16:20] amount.

[16:21] Okay.

[16:21] I'm getting there, I'm getting there.

[16:23] So Willa Parkway, Colbert and Drainage Basin Replacement, we're looking at two things here.

[16:32] 150 would cover all material costs with our guys putting the basins in the cross covers,

[16:40] which they have successfully done in the other locations on Willa Parkway.

[16:44] What it's going to come down to is man hours and available time.

[16:48] but in the very least we didn't need to, with this round of funding, purchase our materials

[16:55] to get them ordered and on the way. So we will have the materials here, and the reason

[17:04] we're purchasing them right away is there's a 25 out of April 15 storm pipe, the school

[17:11] the period of corrugated glass of pipe is going to have a 25% price increase.

[17:17] I got these shop rallies from Jefferson Country for the catch-basins today.

[17:20] We're going to go ahead and sign that order after tonight to get the catch-basins into production

[17:25] in one way.

[17:29] When we get our funding notice from the state, my understanding is right now all the drafts

[17:35] budget included each 15% increase for ships and state tourist routes. So we

[17:44] should actually get more funding than we have in the last year when we get our

[17:49] war letter.

[17:54] There may be a second one. We do our second phase of this is when

[17:57] we'll be able to say hey do we have an upman power to complete this? We'll

[18:03] apart with color project ourselves or do we need to bring in Casnell on the

[18:09] I think there's some efficiencies to be had, I think that we can, with Carl's management,

[18:16] even if we don't do all of them, even if we plug away out of them and get as many as we can

[18:21] down and then, and August, we have to say, hey, Casnell, send us a crew for two weeks and finish this off.

[18:28] I would rather do that than continue to ignore the fish.

[18:34] The other thing on this that they will notice is they are on the cover of the show here

[18:41] at this table.

[18:42] But Rissali has been graciously agreed to extend their pricing from 2025 into 2026 for

[18:51] us.

[18:52] Reason being they build all of their asphalt tanks at the end of the last season and on their

[18:58] last year's pricing.

[19:00] and they are, even though they could, you know, say, don't go out for bed again and we're

[19:05] going to charge you this for pricing. They want our work simply because we're willing

[19:11] to work in the month of May, and we pay quickly, so it helps them from a cash flow standpoint

[19:17] rather than all their other work at state or county DOT work. So the agencies typically

[19:23] pay a bit, take a minimum of 60 days to pay. So for the cash flow standpoint it's nice

[19:27] for them that they can come in and start working in May and get paid, you know, at the end

[19:34] of May beginning to June, from the Tunnel Eye Center, which helps them carry their operating

[19:40] costs until they start getting revenue from state and county due teens.

[19:46] So it's favorable

[19:48] to us. We do have a contract extension clause in the contract, so we can't extend it.

[19:58] It's

[20:00] At current asphalt industries, the right now our contract last year was $83 a ton,

[20:06] the amount of current indexes we drew off $104 a ton, based on the April index.

[20:15] So it's a sizeable job.

[20:18] So it's getting like a little over 20% more work done, at the end of the year.

[20:26] Obviously our street reconstruction work will be able to be done under that contract

[20:30] just because it won't be too ready.

[20:33] We are one of the other things that we have in here as the West Phoenix Phase 2 price

[20:42] that accordingly to, we're going to order the CAD bases and we're going to order the storm

[20:46] pipe but we're not going to be able to paint it until after later in the summer or the

[20:54] So we're going to be paying the higher rate at that point for that asphalt mine.

[21:04] We had our normal, you know, round chip ceiling here and some cracks here there as well.

[21:09] Most of our paving is in Rattison this year with an exception of Greenleast Drive Salt,

[21:16] which is in the Faraway's, North of the development, Rattison, we're doing some bigger roads

[21:23] in North Entry and Carpenter. It should be noted that North Entry and Carpenter are a couple

[21:29] of the older roads and radicine and they are pretty rough. I'll be perfectly honest. We only got

[21:36] 13, one we got 13 years out of from the last time we paved it and the other one we got 14 years

[21:41] out of from the last time we paved it. I anticipate that there will be binder repairs, probably seeing

[21:48] have to get minor repairs than those two roads once we open them up. With that being said,

[21:55] these estimates record that they have a 60% contingency in them. So then that's just based

[22:05] on what essentially when I do the quantity is add an extra quarter inch which works out to

[22:09] to be 60% to 60% increase, and that should cover our

[22:17] binary pairs.

[22:18] But I do anticipate that we will have costs over

[22:22] runtime, not in our vendor,

[22:28] but there's no way to

[22:29] really until the service is off.

[22:33] I don't know.

[22:33] You don't know.

[22:34] I don't know what the binary looks like.

[22:35] But I can say that because the last time we

[22:37] resurfaced it, they didn't hold up green.

[22:49] OK.

[22:55] I just want to thank Alicia.

[22:58] again, or anyone else who helped put this together because I have been looking at it as

[23:02] you said.

[23:02] I have been looking for this for a long time.

[23:04] Yep.

[23:05] And it's nice.

[23:05] And I know that it's not a dollar or a dollar, exact.

[23:09] It's plus or minus as it says on here.

[23:11] But it definitely gives us an idea on how we did.

[23:14] And I'm glad.

[23:15] Yeah.

[23:15] All right.

[23:16] I think Carl's changing how they account for things.

[23:20] A little bit.

[23:20] Yeah.

[23:20] Okay.

[23:21] All right.

[23:22] That just gives you a better idea.

[23:24] Thank you.

[23:24] No, it's great.

[23:25] Yeah, it is.

[23:26] Carl, I know you and Al have been working on this since you've been able to see roads,

[23:33] which hasn't been a long time, but...

[23:37] There's a lot of need, I mean, bottom line is there's always more need than there truly

[23:42] is budget to go around.

[23:46] It's tough. Our older subdivisions are aging.

[23:57] Addison specifically, we're getting to that point where we won't be able to

[24:03] re-eye it. I'll say this. I don't anticipate that we're resurfacing streets like Carpenter again, North

[24:09] Entry again, Little Parkway again. We're going to be in a position where we're throwing good money after bad

[24:15] because we're not getting the life expectancy that we showed out at O'Malleyville,

[24:19] and we're going to have to do pull that fast-fall rate construction.

[24:24] And it's going to get expensive. That's just the bottom line.

[24:27] We also can do right now is try to preserve to the greatest extent possible

[24:31] and stretch those roads along which, you know, Carl's on the, it's nice to have a highway

[24:39] superintendents on the same page in the area as far as preservation. So,

[24:48] we'll do what we can do, but that's kind of a long and short of where we're having this.

[24:55] We have a lot of older subdivisions that are, you know, even Jeff's name, but he'll live on those streets.

[25:02] certain, you know, those are made in the built-in 80s, you know, where the life expectancy

[25:10] of an asphalt road is 50 years, where we have the proper maintenance and we know that

[25:15] for a few years we didn't necessarily do the greatest job with maintenance because we didn't

[25:19] have the funding. So we can get 50 years out of those roads we're doing really good.

[25:26] Well, and you got to keep good roads good too. Oh, absolutely. And you got to focus on your

[25:30] your clubbers and your your highest travel routes. Yeah, you know, we can't, you know, that we it's hard to dump 20% of your budget on

[25:38] gravity. Uh, uh, you know, I mean, I think not that those western roads shouldn't, uh, get attention, but it has to be preservation

[25:45] attention rather than reconstruction. Right. I mean, you get into the, you know, people ask, why do we stone an oil out in the suburbs? You know, a pay

[25:56] Everyone is not going to hold up to the tractor traffic in the agricultural business that uses those areas.

[26:03] And then the other part is how the road was originally built.

[26:07] I know he had swamp road this week, which is built on obviously swamp and railroad types.

[26:13] So you can't go putting a great top coat on something that's not going to stay there in a year or two.

[26:20] You can't throw the money away on those roads unfortunately.

[26:24] and you can't, you don't have a good answer without spending half million dollars on how

[26:30] to do the road appropriately. So, you know, we do, we do what we can with what we offer

[26:36] and what we think we can afford and, you know, what we can do for the road.

[26:41] The state funding increases, that's a couple years, it really made a big difference.

[26:46] Right. And eventually that'll end.

[26:50] Hopefully that does.

[26:51] I know but a lot of that money is trickled down and we'll see how far it trickles down

[26:59] with this year's budget.

[27:01] So thank you, thank you both for all your work and the rest of the highway department.

[27:07] The next item I have on the agenda is the club update grant offered by Anadaga County.

[27:14] So, as everybody recalls, our club was adopted in 2023, literally a couple of months after

[27:22] Micron.

[27:25] Current comprehensive land use plan does not consider any effects of the Micron development.

[27:33] Micron, the camp barrier had in the stand.

[27:36] We have to be honest with ourselves in the residents.

[27:39] Micron's going to affect the complex.

[27:42] There is no other way to say it.

[27:43] We're going to see development pressure.

[27:46] That element and pressure can be controlled and provide community benefits, but we need to look at how we want to structure that controlled growth and what kind of benefits we want to see happen for the community associated with that growth.

[28:03] So, this is a very generous offer from the county.

[28:08] I would like to get

[28:14] the committee, you know, to update the Comprehensive Lab, he has

[28:18] been established here the next month or two.

[28:22] I'm going to work with CHA on coming up with a scope to help us with that this time rather

[28:29] than trying to do it all in a house.

[28:34] This is, you know, this is just going to be different than what we've seen in my statement

[28:38] before.

[28:39] And I think they have planners on the staff that can help us in that regard, or they

[28:45] do have planners on that staff that can help us in that regard.

[28:48] And those people, you know, provide a service that I'm not necessarily trained and knowledgeable

[28:54] but I'm not a professional planner.

[28:56] So, maybe we should bring some plurifasional planters into help us as we work through this process,

[29:03] and in team with the, just like we did before, team with on down in County Planning Agency to work through this.

[29:13] It's

[29:16] something that that is going to be a key role in what life standard looks like in the next 25 years.

[29:26] and making it look like what we wanted to look like as a community rather than something we don't want.

[29:35] Yeah.

[29:35] Out of that county planning had reached out to us last year.

[29:38] Troy Waffer oversees the planning department and out of that county.

[29:43] Many municipalities that have an update on them in quite some time.

[29:46] The county's reached out offered, you know, 20, 30 to $50,000 to assist them with updating their clubs.

[29:54] You know, I'm accounting and it's because without those things, it's hard to...

[30:00] Try to get funding without having an updated club. And the other part is, if it hasn't been updated in 5, 10, 15, 20, 30 years, it's obviously you're not moving forward. You might even be developing an opposition to what your last plan that you created for the town says of what you're, you know, what your proposed development is moving forward. When, when the club update was done, it was given a very specific

[30:29] a specific scope. It wasn't gone from top to bottom. It was a pretty specific area of the previous supervisor and requested, which is fine. You don't have to update the whole thing at the time it was started, which was right around COVID, which of course then the elastic year.

[30:46] You know, it seemed like a good thing.

[30:50] You got into 2022 and 23 and all of a sudden,

[30:53] a micron announcement comes with drastically effects.

[30:56] The, uh, treasure-long development that we could see,

[30:59] or we had seen in light sander,

[31:01] and what could possibly change for us.

[31:03] So, um, I think this is a good thing to go forward on,

[31:09] um, you know, creating a committee,

[31:12] getting with the county on what they offer for resources.

[31:15] is usually most of what they offer is in kind contributions with planning

[31:21] assistance, but it's it's something we don't have. We don't have the resources

[31:28] that the county does for those planning purposes to be able to work on that.

[31:34] Yeah, I mean it's just something that I don't think we should have more. We want to be

[31:40] ahead of it. We don't want to. We can see what unorganized development looks like

[31:44] and it's the cold springs for this one.

[31:47] On the bottom line, that's what we need to avoid

[31:53] that podge of, you know, I'm going to have a development here

[31:58] that's not connected to this development.

[32:00] We need to have a long range of planning

[32:02] to make development flow and have the connections

[32:07] that it needs to have long-term rather than what

[32:13] what we were trying to get over the last 30, 40 years up close because

[32:22] it's something

[32:23] we really need to look into the transportation or our room and district in this

[32:28] comprehensive land use plan specifically for the extra room and road area to

[32:35] fund what we know are going to be needed from a highway improvement standpoint

[32:40] so that we don't get to a point where a third of that land gets developed we got

[32:47] traffic problem and the traffic problem is so costly that nobody else will come

[32:52] into fix what's needed, whether it be turn lanes singles around about

[32:57] five corners to make that you know essentially the last guy in can't can't

[33:07] bear all that word so it would force everybody that's developing in that area

[33:13] We had to contribute to that cost, the town of Hartford has done this.

[33:29] There's a few towns across the state that have done these transportation over the district

[33:35] and the event's successful is, you know, commercial driving to Harper is a very

[33:41] example of what can be done there. To fund those improvements so that you can

[33:47] have that flow of growth and continued growth without getting to these

[33:51] stoppy points where you have no mechanism to address, you know, traffic problems when

[33:58] and they occur because, you know, the electoral,

[34:02] Dixie, the volume of the road network

[34:04] can make people pay into that road network.

[34:11] So what, I mean, first, my next step is to start looking

[34:15] for a committee, and then we'll talk

[34:19] with Troy Wathner at the county.

[34:27] But it's something that we, yeah, it's a process.

[34:30] This isn't like next we're not coming back at the next meeting with a plan. This is it's a process and it should be

[34:38] We should move with it. Yeah, so we should have a committee established, you know

[34:43] In the next yeah, I laid spring and a maybe we should have the committee establish and

[34:52] get the process start

[34:54] It

[34:57] takes to get through with this process and

[35:01] in a year

[35:03] here.

[35:05] Within the next year we're going to start to see some of that pressure of, we're

[35:09] already seeing it into some of these, but I think we're going to see more here, especially

[35:14] the commercial industrial side within the next year, that it's going to be some of these

[35:18] people.

[35:20] Yeah. The insularity developed into support by the ground has to look.

[35:27] Okay.

[35:31] Mr. Mangins absent because his plane was delayed, I was texting him while we were, he was

[35:37] planning I'm getting in but he was delayed so he will not be in attendance tonight.

[35:42] Last item on the work session is CHA Hayes Road sewer study proposal.

[35:47] So we did the culturing sewer study for the utility and funding application that we put

[35:56] in the last two years. It did not include the Red Rock and Hayes Road corridor so

[36:09] one of

[36:10] of the requirements to, for some of the grantees,

[36:13] you have to have a preliminary sewer study done

[36:15] to be eligible to receive the grant,

[36:19] because that area is included in the CDBG funding area,

[36:23] which indicates it's a low income,

[36:26] qualified for low income subsidies.

[36:30] We shouldn't incorporate that into the study

[36:34] that was previously done.

[36:36] This previous study was paid for with ARPA fund.

[36:39] I know we were underbudging on that one.

[36:41] In fact, we were underbudging on that.

[36:45] But I would like to, there's some work here to do this.

[36:51] Consolidated funding applications come on July.

[36:54] I would like to get CHA started on this work sooner rather than later so that it's done and ready.

[37:02] What we get to the point of what we have to submit

[37:09] the Consolidated funding.

[37:10] So we've got basically three months.

[37:17] Oh, here's the ask is the price tag of the project is $20,000.

[37:23] We weren't that far under budget on the original post-pracetime.

[37:29] I think we're under budget on some other ARPA projects too, but we can't because we had

[37:35] to distribute ARPA funds within that purview of that project, so the ARPA funds have sailed

[37:44] on that end. So the ask of the board is, you know, are we going to pull the $20,000

[37:53] out of like an unappropriated fund balance or find the money to try to get this project

[37:59] in with our grant application this fall? I'm sorry this summer. Which being said, if the

[38:06] district is formed, if this moves forward, we get grant funding, if the district is formed,

[38:09] this cost would go back to the district. There are some monies that we haven't used

[38:15] that we appropriate towards like those flat cameras for example 45 grand we

[38:20] could use that money. Yeah we had put 21 grand in the budget in the traffic

[38:25] control devices for flat that obviously we're not moving forward. I mean that's

[38:34] okay I mean that's that's not a problem that's why I wanted to bring it to the

[38:38] board. I'm going to put a note on the sheet. Traffic.

[38:46] Technically when you're ready to do it,

[38:49] do it with dual budget budget. Yeah, yeah. And Comptroller will have it drawn up at the

[38:54] next meeting and move it from traffic control to the. Yeah, it's just one of those things

[38:58] that I want to be ahead of it so that the report's done and ready. Right. When the grant applications

[39:03] Well, this is, you know, this is the hard part, the red rock area with the grinder pumps

[39:11] and all of this is going to be the big cost part of the district.

[39:16] This is the heavy lift on that end, and it's a heavy lift on the engineering part too.

[39:22] This isn't, you know, we had the initial, oh, breeze by, this is where, okay, we draw diagrams

[39:30] and, you know, depths to be able to apply.

[39:33] This is the start of the endless and I can do this work.

[39:39] I've done pressure sewer work before.

[39:42] But I'm not efficient at it.

[39:44] And they have people that are very efficient at it and do a good job.

[39:48] And we'll be able to push this along in and watch faster,

[39:51] ready for my office.

[39:55] Yeah.

[39:57] So I'll draw that up for the next meeting so we can do the transfer agenda.

[40:03] No, we don't have that on the agenda and this isn't no, yeah, this isn't like a no, I just want to move the meter kind of. Yeah, we've got to put the application in the end of June.

[40:16] They come on in to do their new middle of July. Middle, okay. Yeah, so so we're going to do it and so on that effect, the CFA grants, they take the grant we apply last year in massaging. That's not starting over.

[40:31] You know, when we put this application in previous, and now we're, um, we finally jumped

[40:38] through the hurdles and got our approval for, uh, for our, um, what's the, sorry pro housing

[40:45] community, which is a big scary word, but the growth of life sander easily qualified as

[40:58] And the only way to apply for this kind of grant money is to be a pro-housing community

[41:03] and that is the governor's purview.

[41:06] So if that's not something, if you're not there, you're not applying for these kind

[41:11] of grants.

[41:12] The same thing.

[41:13] There's some other grades that we maybe want to look into, but we have to become a certified

[41:19] energy.

[41:20] That might be a tougher one.

[41:23] I can't remember when they get the program.

[41:28] Yes.

[41:29] Yes.

[41:30] We have to embrace renewable energy.

[41:33] Right.

[41:34] But it could be a dividend sludge.

[41:37] The way we define the water friendly

[41:40] idealization project scope,

[41:43] all the housing along in the river there

[41:47] It is in that area and I talked to the bar for people and they said possibly we might

[41:53] be able to get some grants for a sewer as along that area as well.

[41:57] Right.

[41:58] That's where the part of that project.

[41:59] Yeah.

[42:00] Yes.

[42:01] Yeah.

[42:02] I'm going to talk about the LWRP because I was not able to attend the meeting.

[42:07] I was not feeling well and it wouldn't have been a good place for me to be.

[42:12] You know, I'm going to address some of the comments that were made.

[42:14] I've watched the video that Peck B took. So I'm going to hit that on Supervisor's comments.

[42:20] But yeah, the LWRP and all these projects and studies we do are so we can apply and have

[42:27] our best opportunity of getting grant funds to get some of that money that we pay to state back

[42:32] to bring them back in-house. So there are hoops she have to jump through and it's not cheap.

[42:37] So, unfortunately, this is the game you have to play, but that's where the grades are set

[42:47] up now so that you've got a stake in the game and you've already invested in your money

[42:51] before the state will throw their money on.

[42:59] Did any other board members have anything at this time?

[43:10] Okay.

[43:12] I just wanted to make sure we didn't need, because we did need a brief executive

[43:17] session. Yeah. Regarding employment history of a particular employee. So, I have that

[43:25] It will end the work session at 614, but if I could get a motion for an executive session regarding employment history of a particular employee.

[43:39] Mr. Schmidt, first, Mr. Krueger-Ockert's second, all in favor.

[43:44] Aye.

[43:45] All right, yes, motion carried.

[43:47] We're in executive session.

[43:50] We'll come back out of executive session where we're done in.

[43:53] And the executive session, that ends the work session.

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