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Good evening. Welcome to the board of
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commissioners regular meeting. Today is
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Wednesday, August 12th, 2026. It is 6:01
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p.m. City attorney, would you please
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lead us in the invocation and pledge of
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allegiance?
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>> Sure.
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» Sure.
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Our heavenly father, we meet to serve
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our community, to use our resources
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wisely and well, to represent all
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members of our community fairly, and to
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make decisions that promote the common
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good. We recognize our responsibility to
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the past and the future, as well as the
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rights and needs of both individuals and
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our community. As trusted servants, we
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seek blessings on our deliberations this
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evening. This we pray. Amen.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands, one nation
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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
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justice for all.
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» City clerk, would you call the role,
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please?
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>> Mayor Brooks,
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» Mayor Brooks,
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>> here.
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» Here. Commissioner Taglery
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>> here.
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» here.
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>> Commissioner Dylan
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» Commissioner Dylan
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>> here.
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» here.
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>> Commissioner Gavayi
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» Commissioner Gavayi
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>> here.
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» here.
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>> All are present.
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» All are present.
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>> Next is the approval of the agenda.
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» Next is the approval of the agenda.
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If the commission has reviewed the
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agenda and there are no changes, do we
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have a motion?
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>> I move that we approve the agenda as as
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» I move that we approve the agenda as as
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published.
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>> Second.
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» Second.
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>> City clerk, would you call the role,
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» City clerk, would you call the role,
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please?
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>> Commissioner Taglery,
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» Commissioner Taglery,
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>> yes.
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» yes.
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>> Commissioner Gabbay,
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» Commissioner Gabbay,
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>> yes.
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» yes.
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>> Commissioner Dylan,
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» Commissioner Dylan,
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>> yes. Vice Mayor McGee,
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» yes. Vice Mayor McGee,
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>> yes.
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» yes.
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>> Mayor Brooks,
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» Mayor Brooks,
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>> yes.
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» yes.
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>> The motion carried five to zero.
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» The motion carried five to zero.
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>> With no presentations, we will move on
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» With no presentations, we will move on
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to public comment. Public participation
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is encouraged. If you are addressing the
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commission, step to the podium and state
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your name and address for the record and
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the organization or group you represent.
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Please limit your comments to five
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minutes and do not include any topic on
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the agenda. Public comment on agenda
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items will be allowed when they come up.
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If you would like someone at the city to
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follow up on a comment or question made
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at the meeting, you may fill out a
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comment card with the contact
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information and give it to the city
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manager. Comment cards are available at
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the back table in the commission
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chambers. Completing a comment card is
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not mandatory.
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For any quasi judicial public hearings
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that might be on the agenda, an affected
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person may become a party to a quasi
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judicial proceeding and can be entitled
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to present evidence at the hearing,
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including the sworn testimony of
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witnesses and relevant exhibits and
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other documentary evidence and to
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cross-examine all witnesses by filing a
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notice of intent to be a party with the
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community development director not less
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than 5 days prior to the hearing. Do we
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have any public comment?
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» Hi, Bob Bellow 13301 Golf Lane. Um, I
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apologize if I missed any announcements
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and this is redundant, but I'd like to
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recognize Megan and public works team
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and thank them for their continued work
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with Duke Energy on the undergrounding
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project. Um, as a resident, it's
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exciting to start to see some tangible
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progress. We understand that
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coordinating with Duke has been a
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challenge and the project has
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experienced delays, but recently we've
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seen crews out. They've contacted some
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of the residents such as myself um
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marking sites about two weeks ago. I
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understand there's another round of them
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coming out and doing some site visits
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again probably next week in plan
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preparation for phase one of the storm
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damage repairs. So publicly would like
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to say thank you to Megan and everyone
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else involved for their persistence and
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hard work in moving this project
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forward. Thank you.
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>> Thank you. Do we have any additional
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» Thank you. Do we have any additional
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public comment?
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With no additional public comment, we
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will move move on to the approval of the
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minutes. If the commission has had the
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opportunity to review the minutes and
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there are no changes, do we have a
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commission or do we have a
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motion?
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>> My brain is thinking about something
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» My brain is thinking about something
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else.
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>> Yes.
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» Yes.
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>> I make a motion to approve the minutes.
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» I make a motion to approve the minutes.
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>> Do we have a second?
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» Do we have a second?
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>> A second.
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» A second.
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>> City clerk, would you call the role,
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» City clerk, would you call the role,
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please?
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>> Commissioner Dylan,
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» Commissioner Dylan,
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>> yes.
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» yes.
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>> Vice Mayor McGee,
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» Vice Mayor McGee,
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>> yes. Commissioner Gabayi,
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» yes. Commissioner Gabayi,
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>> yes.
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» yes.
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>> Commissioner Taglerini,
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» Commissioner Taglerini,
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>> yes.
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» yes.
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>> Mayor Brooks,
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» Mayor Brooks,
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>> yes.
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» yes.
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>> The motion carried five to zero.
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» The motion carried five to zero.
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>> Next is the consent agenda. Any member
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» Next is the consent agenda. Any member
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of the board of commissioners can ask to
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pull a consent item for separate
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discussion and vote. I will read the
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items. A ITB number 26-04
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storm water backflow prevention project.
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B. Disaster Debris Management
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Participation Agreement with DRC.
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C. Amendment to RFP number 26-05,
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Marina Seaw Wall replacement number two
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to include 129th Avenue Area 5 seaw wall
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replacement and D interlocal agreement
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with Pineellis County posttorm recovery
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services within geographic Pineellis
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County.
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Madam Mayor, I would like to pull item
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A. Okay.
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>> Any additional comments on the consent
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» Any additional comments on the consent
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agenda?
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Then do we have a motion to approve B,
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C, and D?
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>> I move that we pass the consent agenda
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» I move that we pass the consent agenda
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with the extraction of item A.
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>> Second.
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» Second.
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>> City clerk, would you call the role,
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» City clerk, would you call the role,
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please?
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» Commissioner Tagarini.
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>> Yes. Commissioner Gabay,
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» Yes. Commissioner Gabay,
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>> yes.
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» yes.
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>> Commissioner Dylan,
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» Commissioner Dylan,
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>> yes.
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» yes.
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>> Vice Mayor McGee,
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» Vice Mayor McGee,
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>> yes.
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» yes.
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>> Mayor Brooks,
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» Mayor Brooks,
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>> yes.
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» yes.
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>> The [clears throat] motion carried 5 to
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» The [clears throat] motion carried 5 to
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zero. Next on the agenda then will be
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item A, ITB number 2604, storm water
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backflow prevention project.
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Commissioner Go.
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Um, we discussed this at the um,
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previous [clears throat] uh, workshop
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and I'm just not in favor of it and I my
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vote will not be yes.
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>> So, Megan, I think you have something to
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» So, Megan, I think you have something to
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show us.
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>> Tom, can you pause that for a second?
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» Tom, can you pause that for a second?
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>> Thank you. So, I do have a video that is
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» Thank you. So, I do have a video that is
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up on the screens for you all to see.
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This is the valves that we would be
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installing. So, this video is going to
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show you the installation. Actually, go
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ahead and play it, Tom, and I'll walk
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you through. So, this is a storm drain.
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This is the valve that goes inside the
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storm drain. It gets mounted at the
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outfall. The black that you see, that is
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a rubber gasket. So, what you're seeing
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now is the water like if there's a rain
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event. So, that's emptying out into the
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bay. What you're going to see coming now
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would be the tide coming up.
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So that'll show you that as long as that
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valve and that gasket is closed, the
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water is not able to enter back into the
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pipe. Now the pipe filling up is if
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there's a rain event at the same time.
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So this is if there is a title event
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with a rain event and there's not enough
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pressure from the roadway to push that
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gasket open, it is then going to cause
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some minor issues on the roadway with
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flooding. But once once that tide goes
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down, you'll see that that valve opened
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up and was allowed able to empty the
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roadway. So I just thought it was really
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important for you all to see how that
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works. Obviously
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issues that we have had in the past
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would be if there is any type of debris
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that gets stuck within that gasket. We
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have had issues in certain areas. We do
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have these in Boca. We have them in
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137th Avenue Circle. And then we did
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have one on Puit Drive, but we upsized
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that pipe. So, this project would put
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another valve in that location because
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it is extremely low.
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At the beginning, whenever we first
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received these valves back in 2017, we
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had a big education push that we did
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that helped tremendously with the
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residents. So residents that don't hold
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their landscaping debris in their yards
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and ones that are particularly right at
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the inlets typically are the issue. But
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with the landscape ordinance that Joe is
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working on and Marcy's team, that'll
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help tremendously. But what you've all
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seen, and I'm not sure if anyone has
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driven around, that the title events
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that we've had in the last couple weeks
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in the areas where we do have the
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valves, the water did not did not
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overtake the roadway. Was it in the curb
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line? Probably because water will find
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the path of least resistance. It's not
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going to 100% stop the water, but it
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will slow it down enough to where it
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will not cover the roadway. So this is
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an option that the residents have asked
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us to re to try to you know alleviate.
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This is the best solution for what we
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currently have in place until we start
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being more resilient and raising
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roadways.
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» Do we have any public comment?
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Commissioners, do you have any comments
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or questions?
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» I just appreciate that. It helps me to
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understand.
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>> Absolutely. Oh, that's great that
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» Absolutely. Oh, that's great that
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visual. Thank you.
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>> You're welcome.
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» You're welcome.
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>> The issue in my mind when the water
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» The issue in my mind when the water
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comes up, it basically shuts the flapper
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valve and does not allow the water from
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the street to get to the bay and that
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builds up.
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Until that water goes down in the bay,
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that valve will be shut.
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So, I I'm not in favor of it. I'm sorry.
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>> So, then I have a question
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» So, then I have a question
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to play off of the commissioner's
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comments.
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So if the water in the bay is here and
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the wa and we have a so we have a flood
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and a rain event no water's going
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anywhere.
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>> That is correct without the valve.
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» That is correct without the valve.
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>> So without the valve there if it was
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» So without the valve there if it was
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just open when the bay rises the water
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is going to come up in the pipe and it's
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going to flood the street even if
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there's not a water event.
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>> That is correct. But if the if the valve
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» That is correct. But if the if the valve
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is there and the bay rises and it's not
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raining, then the water the valve is
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going to stay closed and the water is
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not going to go on the road.
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>> Correct.
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» Correct.
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>> Correct.
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» Correct.
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>> Yes.
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» Yes.
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>> So
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» So
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>> the the top of the inlet is typically
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» the the top of the inlet is typically
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I'm going to say maybe a couple of
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inches below the seaw wall.
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So, you know, the the water basically I
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if
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you know, if it rises, it'll go through
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the seaw wall and it'll flood the the
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streets.
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>> 90% of our issues with localized roadway
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» 90% of our issues with localized roadway
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flooding is due to tidal events.
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>> Yeah. Yes, we do have shortterm if if
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» Yeah. Yes, we do have shortterm if if
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the tide is low, we do have shortterm
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localized flooding because the system
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may need a minute to catch up,
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especially in areas where pipes are way
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under sized.
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But along 140th, prime example, if you
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are a few days ago in the the the tide
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that we had at a 3-foot and even along
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North Bay Shore in certain sections,
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>> there is water in the road to where you
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» there is water in the road to where you
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can barely pass one lane. Yeah, the the
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water basically has to go through the
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pipe. It'll come up through if the inlet
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is low. The water obviously will be
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flooding.
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>> All of our inlets are low along with our
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» All of our inlets are low along with our
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roads.
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>> They're all very low. I would say
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» They're all very low. I would say
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>> what happens to the rain when you know
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» what happens to the rain when you know
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when it's raining. So the the valve is
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shut, the water is all the way to the
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top of the grate and and you have a
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rainfall
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>> right now. Currently with no valve, the
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» right now. Currently with no valve, the
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water is not going to go anywhere until
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the tide goes down.
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>> Same as what it would do currently. So
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» Same as what it would do currently. So
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if there's not enough pressure in the
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roadway without a valve,
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>> you will see here and you and I receive
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» you will see here and you and I receive
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several calls if we have a high tide and
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a rain event.
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>> Without any valves, our roadways will
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» Without any valves, our roadways will
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flood.
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>> So really, it's not too much different.
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» So really, it's not too much different.
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You just need a little bit more pressure
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with a valve.
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>> Okay. You'll be driving through fresh
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» Okay. You'll be driving through fresh
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water as opposed to salt water. Correct.
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>> Which is helps the vehicles. Um, how
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» Which is helps the vehicles. Um, how
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many valves? This is this is one thing.
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We've got some valves in place. We've
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got this thing for more valves. How many
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more valves do you see, you know, that
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we could need as a city? this project
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when I was building it out and going out
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for bid and working on budgeting I
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budgeted for to be able to do 13 13
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valves throughout the city with just
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this project in place now we have seven
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in Bokea and we have three along 137th.
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So then kind of my question is I guess
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is in terms of do you foresee I I have a
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good idea this is going to work very
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well. Do you think we need another 10 20
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or I mean you or is this too much
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speculation?
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>> I think that we could go for more
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» I think that we could go for more
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funding next year. I think we need to
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look at our capital improvement plan
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because we don't want to buy valves for
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small pipes if that's our next project
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area. So the valves that are within this
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project, we have mostly anywhere from 12
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in to 15in pipes and then there's a few
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18-in. So those those valves can move if
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that's like within the next project
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area. So even if it is in a project area
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within the next 2 years, we can then
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move it to say East Madiraa Avenue who
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is a little bit further out on our CIP
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schedule.
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>> So the valves are removable.
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» So the valves are removable.
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>> Yes, absolutely. Thank you.
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» Yes, absolutely. Thank you.
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>> Okay, I have uh just a couple quick
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» Okay, I have uh just a couple quick
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questions. Uh
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these
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uh valves will help with the nuisance
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flooding, right? Correct.
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>> The title flooding. Yes.
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» The title flooding. Yes.
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>> Yes. The nuisance flooding. And we also
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» Yes. The nuisance flooding. And we also
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were awarded a a grant of $100,000.
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>> That is correct. We have a grant from FD
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» That is correct. We have a grant from FD
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for $100,000 and we are matching that
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$100,000. So, total of $200,000 project.
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>> Awesome. And you said um the maintenance
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» Awesome. And you said um the maintenance
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on these valves is quarterly.
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>> We do maintenance on them quarterly.
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» We do maintenance on them quarterly.
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That is correct. So, we have a system
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4Erunner. The planning and zoning
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department also uses 4Runner. So, we
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have all this information in one
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program. We then document the cleaning
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of those and we are working with 4Runner
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to be able to make sure that we schedule
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those out so we make sure that we're
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hitting them quarterly. We probably do
[15:59]
clean them more often and if we notice
[16:01]
that there's an issue, the guys will
[16:03]
jump in and check it immediately.
[16:05]
>> Yeah. Thank you for uh
[16:08]
» Yeah. Thank you for uh
[16:08]
the tour you gave me for where the
[16:09]
valves were going to be located. And um
[16:12]
also
[16:15]
what is the uh and we had talked about
[16:17]
that. What is the number uh what's a
[16:19]
couple of things that really stop the
[16:22]
valves from working?
[16:24]
>> Mulch, everyone's favorite. Uh we love
[16:27]
» Mulch, everyone's favorite. Uh we love
[16:27]
the mulch we have. Um in the Bokeh
[16:30]
neighborhood, there is a lot of
[16:31]
residents who have rock and shell that
[16:34]
are right all the way up to the curb
[16:36]
line. They do not have any barriers to
[16:39]
hold in the landscaping material. So I
[16:42]
know that Joe asked me about that one.
[16:44]
So that was made sure to put into the
[16:45]
new ordinance. Um landscaping debris. I
[16:49]
know it's amazing, but may a lot of
[16:52]
people put their piles of brush directly
[16:55]
on top of the storm drain grates. So,
[16:57]
that is something that is a big problem.
[17:00]
So, it it's it's really based upon like
[17:03]
area. So, 137th, I honestly do not have
[17:06]
issues, knock on wood, with those
[17:08]
valves. Bokeh was a big adjustment with
[17:11]
the landscaping and and educating the
[17:14]
residents. Basically, we can only clean
[17:16]
them so often. help us help you. Please
[17:19]
ensure you keep all your debris
[17:21]
maintained. If something gets in between
[17:23]
that valve, as you have you seen, it
[17:25]
can't close. So, if it can't close and
[17:28]
it can't stop the water and that was one
[17:30]
of the major issues. We also found that
[17:32]
making sure that you hydraulically seal
[17:34]
around that valve is a big big big
[17:37]
proponent. So, we that's why we're going
[17:39]
through this project the way that we
[17:41]
are.
[17:42]
>> So, if there barnacles build up, how do
[17:44]
» So, if there barnacles build up, how do
[17:44]
you remove the barnacles? same way you
[17:47]
do a pipe, but the barnacles, knock on
[17:48]
wood, don't really secure to the the
[17:51]
rubber. So, mostly the what's what you
[17:54]
see is exposed is if they do grow, they
[17:56]
grow on the exterior of it, which
[17:58]
doesn't affect the valve, but cleaning
[18:00]
them and have a ma a maintenance
[18:02]
schedule really helps with that.
[18:04]
>> Thank you.
[18:05]
» Thank you.
[18:05]
>> Thank you.
[18:06]
» Thank you.
[18:06]
>> You're welcome. Okay. If we have nothing
[18:07]
» You're welcome. Okay. If we have nothing
[18:07]
further, do we have a motion?
[18:11]
Uh, I move that we authorize the award
[18:12]
of ITB number 2604 to Randall
[18:15]
Engineering and Construction LLC in the
[18:16]
amount of 187,882.
[18:20]
Authorize the standard 10% construction
[18:22]
contingency of $18,78.80
[18:25]
for a total project authorization of
[18:27]
$26,610.80.
[18:30]
» Have a second.
[18:31]
>> A second.
[18:32]
» A second.
[18:32]
>> Second.
[18:32]
» Second.
[18:32]
>> City clerk, would you call the role,
[18:34]
» City clerk, would you call the role,
[18:34]
please? [clears throat]
[18:35]
>> Commissioner Kaggleri?
[18:37]
» Commissioner Kaggleri?
[18:37]
>> Yes.
[18:37]
» Yes.
[18:37]
>> Vice Mayor McGee?
[18:38]
» Vice Mayor McGee?
[18:38]
>> Yes.
[18:39]
» Yes.
[18:39]
>> Commissioner Gabay? No.
[18:43]
» Commissioner Gabay? No.
[18:43]
>> Commissioner Dylan.
[18:44]
» Commissioner Dylan.
[18:44]
>> Yes.
[18:45]
» Yes.
[18:45]
>> Mayor Brooks.
[18:46]
» Mayor Brooks.
[18:46]
>> Yes.
[18:47]
» Yes.
[18:47]
>> The motion carried 4 to1. Next on the
[18:50]
» The motion carried 4 to1. Next on the
[18:50]
agenda is public hearings. Ordinance
[18:52]
2026-07
[18:55]
charter amendments relating to municipal
[18:57]
election dates, candidate qualifying
[18:59]
periods, term transition provisions, and
[19:02]
referendum questions. Second reading and
[19:05]
public hearing. And I will hand this to
[19:06]
the city attorney.
[19:07]
>> Thank you, mayor. I'm going to read this
[19:08]
» Thank you, mayor. I'm going to read this
[19:08]
ordinance by title only. This is
[19:10]
ordinance 2026-07,
[19:12]
an ordinance of the city of Mader Beach,
[19:14]
Florida, submitting to the electors of
[19:16]
the city of Mader Beach, proposed
[19:17]
amendments to the city charter relating
[19:19]
to the date of municipal elections and
[19:21]
candidate qualifying periods amending
[19:23]
section 3.3 nomination of board of
[19:26]
directors subp paragraph A filing of the
[19:29]
city charter to change the candidate
[19:31]
qualifying period from December to June
[19:34]
amending section 3.4 4 manner of holding
[19:37]
elections subp paragraph A of the city
[19:39]
charter to change the municipal
[19:40]
elections from March to November to
[19:43]
coincide with the state general election
[19:45]
and providing for the extension of the
[19:47]
terms of commissioner district 3 and
[19:50]
commissioner district 4 until November
[19:52]
2027
[19:53]
and extension of the terms of
[19:55]
commissioner district 1 uh commissioner
[19:58]
district 2 and mayor commissioner until
[20:00]
November 2028
[20:02]
amending section 2.2 Two board of
[20:04]
commissioners created qualifications,
[20:06]
term of office and vacancies. Sub
[20:08]
paragraph B, qualifications and term of
[20:11]
office of the city charter to provide
[20:13]
for certification of the election
[20:15]
results and providing for the extension
[20:17]
of the terms of commissioner district 3
[20:19]
and commissioner district 4 until
[20:21]
November 27, 2027 and extension of terms
[20:24]
of commissioners district 1,
[20:26]
commissioner district 2 and mayor
[20:29]
commissioner until November 2028.
[20:32]
Amending section 4.8 induction of board
[20:34]
of commissioners into office meetings of
[20:37]
the city uh charter to provide
[20:39]
consistent commencement of terms and
[20:42]
installation procedures. Providing for a
[20:45]
referendum, providing for ballot
[20:47]
language, providing for notice of
[20:49]
election, and providing for an effective
[20:51]
date. That was the second and final
[20:53]
reading of ordinance 2026-07
[20:56]
by title only.
[20:59]
>> Do we have any public comment?
[21:02]
» Do we have any public comment?
[21:02]
Commissioners, do you have any questions
[21:03]
or comments?
[21:05]
>> I just want to say out loud that this is
[21:07]
» I just want to say out loud that this is
[21:07]
approving that all of us will serve
[21:10]
>> several months, maybe five, six months
[21:12]
» several months, maybe five, six months
[21:12]
more
[21:12]
>> extra.
[21:12]
» extra.
[21:12]
>> Extra.
[21:13]
» Extra.
[21:13]
>> Correct.
[21:13]
» Correct.
[21:13]
>> And that's and this is the only time
[21:15]
» And that's and this is the only time
[21:15]
that that will happen. I'm just saying
[21:17]
in future elections. It'll be our
[21:19]
standard terms. Just want to say that
[21:20]
out loud.
[21:21]
>> And it also will save the community
[21:23]
» And it also will save the community
[21:23]
money. um where now we do our elections
[21:27]
in March and there is an added cost to
[21:29]
the city to put that election on, we
[21:32]
will be able to hold our elections in
[21:34]
November when we're already doing other
[21:36]
municipal or other elections. So,
[21:39]
>> and a lot and a lot of uh voters
[21:41]
» and a lot and a lot of uh voters
[21:41]
participation, a lot more
[21:43]
>> voter participation.
[21:47]
» Do we have a motion? I make a motion to
[21:50]
pass ordinance 2026-07
[21:54]
charter amendments relating to the
[21:56]
municipal election dates, candidate
[21:59]
candidate qualifying periods, term
[22:02]
transition provisions and referendum
[22:04]
questions.
[22:06]
Second reading public hearing.
[22:10]
>> I second.
[22:11]
» I second.
[22:11]
>> City clerk, would you call the role,
[22:12]
» City clerk, would you call the role,
[22:12]
please?
[22:14]
>> Vice Mayor McGee?
[22:16]
» Vice Mayor McGee?
[22:16]
>> Yes.
[22:16]
» Yes.
[22:16]
>> Commissioner Dylan?
[22:17]
» Commissioner Dylan?
[22:17]
>> Yes. Commissioner Taglerini,
[22:20]
» Yes. Commissioner Taglerini,
[22:20]
>> yes.
[22:20]
» yes.
[22:20]
>> Commissioner Gabbay,
[22:21]
» Commissioner Gabbay,
[22:21]
>> yes.
[22:22]
» yes.
[22:22]
>> Mayor Brooks,
[22:23]
» Mayor Brooks,
[22:23]
>> yes.
[22:23]
» yes.
[22:23]
>> The motion carry five to zero.
[22:26]
» The motion carry five to zero.
[22:26]
>> Next on the agenda is ordinance 2026-08,
[22:30]
» Next on the agenda is ordinance 2026-08,
[22:30]
fees and collection procedure manual,
[22:32]
first reading and public hearing. City
[22:35]
attorney.
[22:36]
>> Thank you, mayor. This is a reading of
[22:37]
» Thank you, mayor. This is a reading of
[22:37]
ordinance 2026-08
[22:39]
by title only. Ordinance 2026-08, an
[22:43]
ordinance of the city of MadiRaa Beach,
[22:44]
Florida, adopting a revised appendix A,
[22:46]
fees and collection procedures manual of
[22:48]
the code of ordinances of the city of
[22:50]
Madiraa Beach, Florida, amending the fee
[22:52]
schedules for the fire, marina, parking,
[22:56]
recreation, and storm water departments
[22:58]
is set forth in exhibit A repealing
[23:00]
ordinance 2025-18
[23:03]
providing for conflicts, providing for
[23:04]
severability, and providing for an
[23:06]
effective date. That was the first
[23:07]
reading of ordinance 2026-08
[23:09]
by title only.
[23:12]
>> Do we have any public comment?
[23:15]
» Do we have any public comment?
[23:15]
Commissioners, do you have any questions
[23:17]
or comments?
[23:20]
>> I I have one question. Um, Wednesday
[23:24]
» I I have one question. Um, Wednesday
[23:24]
market,
[23:26]
where would that fit
[23:28]
in this
[23:30]
um category?
[23:38]
should be recreation maybe under
[23:40]
recreation.
[23:41]
>> It is under recreation.
[23:44]
» It is under recreation.
[23:44]
>> I don't believe that. I believe that um
[23:47]
» I don't believe that. I believe that um
[23:47]
I can speak on Max's behalf that
[23:49]
recreation is going to come back to us
[23:51]
with some changes.
[23:53]
>> They had not um processed all theirs.
[23:55]
» They had not um processed all theirs.
[23:55]
So, we're going to approve to provided
[23:58]
we vote yes. Um this is the first
[24:00]
reading to approve the changes that
[24:02]
we've been brought so far. And there
[24:03]
will be additional changes that will
[24:05]
come from, I believe, community
[24:07]
development as well as recreation in a
[24:09]
future workshop meeting
[24:12]
>> and we'll workshop whatever those
[24:13]
» and we'll workshop whatever those
[24:13]
changes are.
[24:17]
>> I see. I just have a couple of just a
[24:18]
» I see. I just have a couple of just a
[24:18]
quick concerns or or comments. Um, will
[24:23]
we have to approve it annually to
[24:26]
continue or will it just go on for as
[24:29]
long as they want to?
[24:30]
>> Yeah, I can address that. So the fees
[24:33]
» Yeah, I can address that. So the fees
[24:33]
and collections manual, the the fees in
[24:34]
there remain intact unless changed by
[24:38]
future ordinance, which would be two
[24:39]
readings. Typically, we do this exercise
[24:41]
annually. Um but to the mayor's point,
[24:45]
we discussed in our workshop the
[24:47]
prospect of adding community development
[24:49]
permitting fees uh given the state's
[24:52]
recent regulatory changes around
[24:54]
assessing of permitting of permits uh
[24:58]
permit fees and needing that to be more
[25:00]
timebased than um as the mechanism. We
[25:04]
need a little more time to uh put
[25:07]
together a fee schedule on that. So
[25:08]
we're delaying that. We do have
[25:10]
recreation fees, fee changes in here
[25:14]
that are that are in exhibit B. You can
[25:16]
see the before and after, but we're also
[25:17]
going to be looking at recreation a
[25:19]
little deeper as well and look at per
[25:21]
program costs a um in a little more
[25:24]
depth and ensure that you know the the
[25:27]
fees assessed align well with the actual
[25:30]
cost of administering the program. So,
[25:33]
we could see some future changes on the
[25:35]
rec on the recreation side. When exactly
[25:37]
that'll take place, not quite sure, but
[25:39]
future changes could happen in the
[25:40]
horizon. The one that we discussed that
[25:43]
you there's pretty much universal
[25:45]
support for the ones that we discussed
[25:46]
in the workshop with the exception of
[25:48]
one in parking on on backing in parking.
[25:51]
So rest assured we have removed that. So
[25:53]
please back in away as to your heart's
[25:55]
content you will not get fined for that.
[25:58]
So that has been removed.
[26:00]
>> All right. So, so as far as um solid
[26:04]
» All right. So, so as far as um solid
[26:04]
waste and usage of the uh
[26:09]
sanitary and restrooms with the market,
[26:13]
Wednesday market, are we charging them?
[26:18]
Are they paying us a fee for that?
[26:22]
>> I'm not quite sure about the intricacies
[26:25]
» I'm not quite sure about the intricacies
[26:25]
behind that. Max, do you have some any
[26:27]
comments on the cost around Wednesday
[26:30]
market?
[26:35]
» So, traditionally in the past, the
[26:37]
Wednesday market, they would mainly take
[26:38]
all their trash with them. Any trash
[26:41]
that was in what was uh made, if you
[26:45]
will, in the market was just used uh on
[26:47]
the trash cans along Madira Way. As for
[26:50]
restrooms, the local businesses allowed
[26:52]
patrons and the market vendors to use
[26:54]
their restrooms. We did not provide any
[26:56]
restrooms for them.
[27:00]
So, all we charged them in the past was
[27:02]
just a street closure fee and then they
[27:04]
ran the market for us as a as a service
[27:08]
to the community.
[27:09]
>> Okay.
[27:10]
» Okay.
[27:10]
>> I'm sure there's um cleaning
[27:12]
» I'm sure there's um cleaning
[27:12]
[clears throat] for the restrooms and
[27:14]
things in that nature would would would
[27:16]
who would clean up the restrooms?
[27:18]
>> None of the businesses on Madira Way
[27:20]
» None of the businesses on Madira Way
[27:20]
like the saltwater hippie beach bar and
[27:21]
shop. They were the ones who mainly in
[27:23]
Forbotus would allow patrons and and
[27:25]
people to come use their restrooms in
[27:27]
their facilities in their in their
[27:29]
businesses. They never charged us any
[27:31]
fees for that. They were just happy to
[27:33]
have a market in front of their business
[27:35]
every Wednesday.
[27:36]
>> Yeah. Thank you.
[27:38]
» Yeah. Thank you.
[27:38]
>> With no any addition,
[27:39]
» With no any addition,
[27:39]
>> I just have a couple questions for It's
[27:41]
» I just have a couple questions for It's
[27:41]
both recreation. Sorry, Max. This splash
[27:44]
pad and weddings. That's what I'm asking
[27:45]
about. And the splash pad, uh, it looks
[27:47]
like there's a fee for the splash pad,
[27:48]
but that's only if they want to reserve.
[27:50]
That's that's if just you say you want
[27:51]
to have your birthday party at the
[27:52]
splash pad. That's what that is. It's
[27:54]
just you you have the splash pad
[27:56]
reserved exclusively for you during that
[27:58]
during that time.
[27:58]
>> But otherwise, anybody can
[27:59]
» But otherwise, anybody can
[27:59]
>> otherwise anybody is welcome to use the
[28:01]
» otherwise anybody is welcome to use the
[28:01]
splash pad for free. That is great.
[28:02]
>> The other the other one was about
[28:03]
» The other the other one was about
[28:03]
weddings on the beach. Uh so it looks
[28:06]
like even weddings under 50 have to get
[28:09]
a permit and and does that happen
[28:10]
regularly with tie the knot and
[28:12]
>> Yes, that does happen regularly with tie
[28:14]
» Yes, that does happen regularly with tie
[28:14]
with all the different beach wedding uh
[28:16]
with all the wedding planning companies
[28:17]
we have.
[28:18]
>> Okay. all up and down the coast there.
[28:19]
» Okay. all up and down the coast there.
[28:19]
>> And just just because we the the
[28:21]
» And just just because we the the
[28:21]
residents that live on the other right
[28:23]
there at the beach uh across from Tide
[28:25]
the Knots and West, they have concerns
[28:28]
because often times the the problem is
[28:31]
that they don't hold the weddings in
[28:33]
front of the city property. They hold
[28:35]
the weddings in front of their house.
[28:37]
And one in particular has repairarian
[28:39]
rights to the water. And anyway, I just
[28:42]
I just wanted to make sure they they're
[28:44]
supposed to get a permit even for 50 or
[28:46]
less. And they have a fee attached.
[28:47]
Correct. If you're if you're setting up
[28:49]
an an arch or or any structure on the
[28:51]
beach, even if you're just renewing your
[28:52]
vows with with 10 people, we still
[28:54]
require a beach wedding permit.
[28:56]
>> And am I correct that they're supposed
[28:57]
» And am I correct that they're supposed
[28:57]
to stay in front of the
[28:58]
>> They are supposed to stay right there
[28:59]
» They are supposed to stay right there
[28:59]
pretty much. And like if you're
[29:01]
referring to where uh uh off the top of
[29:03]
my head, what I
[29:04]
>> Bob?
[29:04]
» Bob?
[29:04]
>> Uh yeah, it's at 134th. Um we we we
[29:08]
» Uh yeah, it's at 134th. Um we we we
[29:08]
instruct them to set up in front of the
[29:11]
walkway. Yeah, that's pretty much
[29:13]
>> making sure that that's clear because
[29:15]
» making sure that that's clear because
[29:15]
he's had a couple runins and he called
[29:16]
me and I didn't know what to do. They
[29:18]
were gone.
[29:19]
>> Some of those weddings do tend to get
[29:20]
» Some of those weddings do tend to get
[29:20]
kind of large there. So we as as we try
[29:22]
to work with all the different wedding
[29:23]
planners and organizations that do take
[29:25]
Yeah.
[29:25]
>> all the permits, we try to stress that
[29:28]
» all the permits, we try to stress that
[29:28]
set your wedding up right in front of
[29:29]
the beach access on city property.
[29:30]
>> Great. Thank you. That's all I had.
[29:32]
» Great. Thank you. That's all I had.
[29:32]
Thank you, Max.
[29:33]
>> You're welcome.
[29:34]
» You're welcome.
[29:34]
>> Do we have a motion?
[29:40]
I make a motion to pass uh ordinance
[29:43]
2026-08
[29:44]
fees and collection procedure.
[29:47]
>> Do we have a second?
[29:49]
» Do we have a second?
[29:49]
>> Second.
[29:49]
» Second.
[29:50]
>> City clerk, would you call the role,
[29:51]
» City clerk, would you call the role,
[29:51]
please?
[29:52]
>> Vice Mayor McGee?
[29:54]
» Vice Mayor McGee?
[29:54]
>> Yes.
[29:54]
» Yes.
[29:54]
>> Commissioner Dylan?
[29:55]
» Commissioner Dylan?
[29:55]
>> Yes.
[29:56]
» Yes.
[29:56]
>> Commissioner Gabay?
[29:57]
» Commissioner Gabay?
[29:57]
>> Yes.
[29:58]
» Yes.
[29:58]
>> Commissioner [clears throat] Taglerini?
[29:59]
» Commissioner [clears throat] Taglerini?
[30:00]
>> Yes.
[30:00]
» Yes.
[30:00]
>> Mayor Brooks?
[30:01]
» Mayor Brooks?
[30:01]
>> Yes.
[30:02]
» Yes.
[30:02]
>> The motion carried 5 to zero. Next on
[30:04]
» The motion carried 5 to zero. Next on
[30:04]
the agenda is ordinance 2026-09
[30:08]
non-conformances and rebuilding
[30:10]
regulations first reading and public
[30:12]
hearing. City attorney.
[30:14]
>> Thank you mayor. This is ordinance
[30:15]
» Thank you mayor. This is ordinance
[30:15]
2026-09, an ordinance of the city of
[30:17]
Madera Beach, Florida, amending chapter
[30:19]
110 zoning, article 3, non-conformances
[30:22]
of the city's land development
[30:23]
regulations to clarify regulations
[30:26]
governing non-conforming lots, uses,
[30:28]
structures, and density. To revise
[30:30]
rebuilding and redevelopment standards
[30:32]
following a catastrophic loss, extending
[30:35]
the deadline for certain repairs related
[30:37]
to the 2024 hurricanes.
[30:39]
to wave the business tax receipt
[30:42]
requirement for structures that were
[30:43]
damaged during the 2024 hurricanes
[30:47]
provided that certain conditions are met
[30:49]
providing for conflict severability
[30:51]
codification and an effective date. That
[30:54]
was the first reading of ordinance
[30:55]
2026-09
[30:57]
by title only.
[30:58]
>> Do we have any public comment?
[31:01]
» Do we have any public comment?
[31:01]
Commissioners, any questions or
[31:02]
comments?
[31:05]
>> I've got many. after my drive around
[31:08]
» I've got many. after my drive around
[31:08]
with the um [clears throat] lovely
[31:11]
people that doing the code enforcement.
[31:13]
Um there's so many places that have just
[31:17]
been vacated.
[31:19]
Excuse [clears throat] me. And I've
[31:20]
asked the city to do a little bit of um
[31:23]
homework where we extended this 6 months
[31:26]
already and to extend it another year. I
[31:30]
was kind of leerary about it. However, I
[31:32]
was told that we should talk to our
[31:35]
lawyer to see if there's something about
[31:38]
the section 180 or one of the laws that
[31:42]
are going to be passed as to whether or
[31:44]
not we can not do this. Uh I'd even ask
[31:48]
so much as to the extent of how many
[31:51]
people are doing anything and by kicking
[31:54]
this can down the road are we doing any
[31:56]
good?
[32:01]
So, mayor, can I just address that? I
[32:03]
think that uh Commissioner Dylan is
[32:05]
referring to Senate Bill 180. There's a
[32:08]
requirement under that Senate Bill 180
[32:10]
that we cannot adopt regulations that
[32:14]
are more restrictive than what we
[32:16]
currently have for uh the period of time
[32:19]
listed in the in in the law. But these
[32:22]
are making it less restrictive. And so,
[32:25]
the Senate Bill 180 would not apply. it
[32:28]
it doesn't prohibit us from adopting
[32:30]
this ordinance because it's less
[32:32]
restrictive.
[32:34]
So, in other words, you're letting more
[32:36]
things happen than what the code
[32:38]
currently allows.
[32:40]
So,
[32:40]
>> and and one thing I think that comes
[32:42]
» and and one thing I think that comes
[32:42]
into play is uh we talked about if and I
[32:48]
emailed attorney Tras a while ago to
[32:50]
confirm well if the deadline passes say
[32:54]
we didn't extend this deadline
[32:56]
and there's properties that are
[32:59]
prefirmed. So, they're not elevated,
[33:01]
they're non-conforming, they haven't
[33:02]
pulled the permits. Can we take some
[33:06]
code enforcement action to like force
[33:08]
demolition?
[33:09]
And the attorney's interpretation of the
[33:12]
current code is no. There would need to
[33:14]
be some kind of other violation of the
[33:17]
code, whether it's a nuisance or they're
[33:19]
caught doing work without a permit. So
[33:22]
essentially what that means is if the
[33:24]
deadline wasn't extended
[33:27]
then it would just result in anyone that
[33:30]
submits a remodel permit after the
[33:32]
deadline the remodel permit would just
[33:34]
get denied and then it would potentially
[33:38]
have the opposite effect that we're
[33:39]
wanting and the property would sit
[33:41]
abandoned for even longer because it
[33:43]
takes longer to get new builds plans
[33:46]
prepared than a remodel.
[33:50]
» Okay. So with that in mind then excuse
[33:53]
me do we just kick it down the road 6
[33:55]
months as opposed to a year I mean and
[33:58]
I'm asking you people for your advice.
[34:01]
>> So the thing with a year is so Senate
[34:03]
» So the thing with a year is so Senate
[34:03]
Bill 180 lapses in about a year. So
[34:07]
potentially if we extend the deadline
[34:11]
another year like we're proposing here,
[34:13]
then possibly we can by then work
[34:17]
another ordinance that proposes
[34:19]
something more restrictive where maybe
[34:21]
we do force demolition if that's a
[34:24]
route. Um and and go that option once
[34:28]
both Senate Bill 180 and the new
[34:30]
deadline passes.
[34:33]
Well, and I guess my my main concern was
[34:36]
all the vacant properties. There's so
[34:39]
many that, you know, and it's easy to
[34:41]
tell because the post office has put the
[34:43]
blue tape over their mailboxes. So, as
[34:46]
to whether or not all of those homes are
[34:48]
just sitting vacant, you know,
[34:50]
rodentinfested.
[34:52]
And that's kind of my concern. and many
[34:56]
of the other people that were here in
[34:58]
the original discussion, the real estate
[35:01]
people, if you're trying to sell your
[35:03]
house and you're going by all these
[35:05]
places that are abandoned or look to be
[35:08]
abandoned, it's not a very good look.
[35:11]
So, that was my concern about kicking it
[35:13]
down the line.
[35:15]
I think that the better conversation for
[35:17]
us would be to add to our next workshop
[35:20]
code enforcement because the issue you
[35:25]
the issue of the abandoned homes and the
[35:28]
overgrown grass we've talked about we've
[35:31]
been talking about for over two years
[35:32]
now uh or almost two years now over two
[35:36]
years now because we're in August about
[35:39]
the houses and the the issues and code
[35:42]
enforcement and getting our deputies
[35:45]
um a clear definition of what it is
[35:48]
we're looking for that they are
[35:49]
responsible for doing and then a better
[35:53]
definition for our our code enforcers
[35:55]
that are internal for what we're looking
[35:58]
for for the community and having some
[36:00]
sort of reporting system to be able to
[36:03]
at least once a month provide to the
[36:04]
community how many properties have been
[36:06]
code enforced, what happened with them,
[36:09]
where they're at, not the specific
[36:11]
properties, but the number. and what
[36:13]
we're doing and also to educate the
[36:15]
community and ourselves as well on what
[36:18]
that looks like. What can we do? What
[36:20]
can we not do? Part of this conversation
[36:23]
was there are many people who own
[36:26]
properties in MadiRaa who are still
[36:28]
waiting to find out if they're going to
[36:30]
be approved. There are many people who
[36:32]
are still waiting on their insurance to
[36:34]
pay. And so by not extending it for
[36:39]
another year, then we're telling them
[36:42]
that, you know what, it doesn't matter.
[36:44]
Time's up for you. You're done. But we
[36:46]
still can't make them do anything, you
[36:48]
know? So, we're giving them a year so
[36:50]
that they can breathe. They have the
[36:52]
opportunity um to be able to find out
[36:55]
whether or not they're going to qualify
[36:56]
for a program that's going to help them
[36:58]
with whatever the program is. There's
[37:00]
there's several different programs out
[37:02]
there people have applied for. And then
[37:04]
in the meantime, I think it would be
[37:06]
best for us in my view that we our next
[37:10]
workshop doesn't have very much on it
[37:12]
and that we spend some really good hard
[37:14]
conversation on what our ordinances says
[37:18]
we can do with code enforcement and give
[37:21]
the direction to the people who are
[37:23]
responsible for enforcing it in what we
[37:25]
want to see done and that would make a
[37:28]
difference. I believe
[37:29]
>> I completely agree but I couldn't talk
[37:31]
» I completely agree but I couldn't talk
[37:31]
to you about that. So, it's just like I
[37:33]
had to bring this up however I could to
[37:37]
get the ball rolling. And that's where
[37:39]
um exactly, you know, and as to how
[37:42]
exactly we can do this, but by working
[37:44]
with our staff, it's it's phenomenal.
[37:47]
And that's what I thought, you know, I
[37:49]
was completely amazed that they go
[37:52]
around generally speaking twice a day
[37:55]
doing code enforcement and doing all
[37:58]
this stuff. And I was like, wow. you
[38:00]
know where I I didn't think
[38:02]
[clears throat] that it was done that
[38:04]
much and that's what I was like okay
[38:06]
this should be done well it's already
[38:08]
being done and it's just I didn't see it
[38:11]
I mean you know but it's it's being done
[38:14]
and to do continue you know to help not
[38:18]
to hinder our residents but to help them
[38:21]
but yet give them that nudge okay so
[38:23]
like guys
[38:25]
you got to maintain your properties I
[38:28]
mean you know and that's just like I
[38:29]
understand that, you know, rodents, I
[38:33]
mean, I've got many friends that are
[38:34]
just like, you know, they they got
[38:37]
rodents now and it's it's bad, you know.
[38:39]
So, and that's what understanding, but
[38:42]
to have more teeth in our ordinances is
[38:46]
what I'm looking for. So we can't add we
[38:49]
can't add teeth right now. But what we
[38:50]
can do is understand the ordinance and
[38:54]
give the expectation of the commission
[38:56]
to those that are in charge of enforcing
[38:59]
it and do it that way. And at the same
[39:02]
time it will educate the community. I
[39:04]
drove the um city this weekend and
[39:12]
my personal view not as the mayor but as
[39:14]
an Marie Brooks who lives in Mader
[39:16]
Beach. If I lived on XYZ Street and
[39:18]
there were three abandoned homes and
[39:20]
they weren't cutting their grass, I
[39:22]
would cut their grass.
[39:24]
That's just me. And I know that there
[39:27]
are trespass.
[39:28]
>> No. Well, they're not living there. They
[39:30]
» No. Well, they're not living there. They
[39:30]
don't care.
[39:31]
>> And there are I know from conversations
[39:35]
» And there are I know from conversations
[39:35]
with the community that there are many
[39:38]
people in the city who live on streets
[39:40]
where there are abandoned homes or homes
[39:42]
where the people haven't made up their
[39:44]
mind what they're going to do. And when
[39:46]
their lawn service comes, the lawn
[39:49]
service cuts the neighbor's yard in.
[39:50]
>> Well, good for you in that condo. I
[39:52]
» Well, good for you in that condo. I
[39:52]
spent two hours today mowing mine.
[39:54]
>> I'm I'm saying that there are so that I
[39:57]
» I'm I'm saying that there are so that I
[39:57]
mean, the idea wasn't my idea. It came
[39:59]
from a resident who said they listened
[40:01]
to someone come and and make comments
[40:04]
about overgrown grass. And I was
[40:06]
someplace one day and a resident came
[40:08]
over and said to me, I watched that on
[40:10]
the meeting and let me tell you how we
[40:12]
do it on our street. We cut the grass.
[40:15]
That's not an option for everybody. I'm
[40:16]
just saying so I think that we workshop
[40:18]
this, we can have a conversation and
[40:20]
maybe we can come up with ideas that
[40:21]
would be helpful for the community and
[40:23]
for all of us. Commissioner,
[40:24]
>> so to go further with this, I went over
[40:27]
» so to go further with this, I went over
[40:27]
the the Pine Hills County Sheriff's uh
[40:30]
contract that we are going to vote on.
[40:32]
It's we have to have either approve it
[40:34]
or not approve it by October 1st. Uh and
[40:37]
a lot of what we're talking about we're
[40:39]
already has it's already contracted.
[40:42]
What I would like is during our next
[40:43]
workshop to have a representative from
[40:45]
Pineelis County Sheriff's who is
[40:47]
responsible for this contract to make
[40:49]
sure that the wording is uh clear and
[40:52]
what our expectations are. Uh and and I
[40:55]
I I would like to see a report on a
[40:57]
regular basis for these non-emergency
[40:59]
code violations, these short-term
[41:01]
rentals, these these what some people
[41:03]
call a nuisance. I think they're more
[41:04]
than nuisance. So, I I I if that's
[41:08]
possible, uh Mr. Mr. Hellfrick, I'd love
[41:10]
to see someone representing the
[41:12]
sheriff's department at our workshop
[41:14]
when we're talking about this contract.
[41:16]
>> Yeah, I I've requested that. I I'll get
[41:18]
» Yeah, I I've requested that. I I'll get
[41:18]
with them uh this week and make sure
[41:20]
that's lined up.
[41:21]
>> Great. Thanks. And then I had one more
[41:23]
» Great. Thanks. And then I had one more
[41:23]
question. Uh the 2024 hurricane damage
[41:26]
status. I can Can you It says QC.
[41:30]
There's just a couple things that I
[41:31]
understand. I'd like to understand QC
[41:33]
needed. That's a big chunk of
[41:35]
properties.
[41:35]
>> Yeah, I can explain that. So, let me go
[41:37]
» Yeah, I can explain that. So, let me go
[41:37]
to the pie chart.
[41:39]
So this comes from 4Runner. So basically
[41:42]
the way we're tracking
[41:44]
every property to see if they got a
[41:46]
permit or not is through these statuses
[41:49]
and the QC needed one is means that we
[41:53]
don't know for sure. It looks like
[41:55]
that's most of them, but that's because
[41:57]
it's a lot of condo parcels. Like all
[41:59]
the condo buildings have hundreds of
[42:02]
parcel IDs, so it's grouping them all
[42:04]
there.
[42:04]
>> But what is QC? Uh that's just the code
[42:07]
» But what is QC? Uh that's just the code
[42:07]
name that we gave it like quality
[42:09]
control check needed like
[42:10]
>> it's the definition would be those
[42:12]
» it's the definition would be those
[42:12]
places that they haven't submitted a
[42:15]
permit request they haven't done any
[42:17]
work they're just
[42:18]
>> so let me run through the statuses real
[42:20]
» so let me run through the statuses real
[42:20]
quick so QC needed basically is it's
[42:25]
built so anything that was built before
[42:27]
1975
[42:29]
and doesn't have a permit we know with
[42:32]
almost 100% certainty is going to need a
[42:35]
permit. So, it's pre-firm and there's no
[42:39]
permit. So, that those go on the no
[42:40]
permit status. Then, just because it was
[42:44]
built after 1975 doesn't necessarily
[42:47]
mean they don't need a permit. So, we
[42:49]
didn't want to just block those out
[42:52]
completely. So, those anything built
[42:55]
after 1975 was put in the QC needed
[42:57]
status for now, which is just like we'll
[42:59]
figure it out later. And then anything
[43:03]
that's on the demolished/substantially
[43:06]
improved means they got either a full
[43:09]
structure demo permit or a new build
[43:12]
permit or an elevate permit since the
[43:14]
hurricane. Anything that's on the owner
[43:17]
and communication status means they're
[43:20]
really they don't have a permit, but
[43:22]
they have they're working with us in
[43:24]
some way. Either we've logged like a
[43:26]
conversation with the owner. They're
[43:27]
like waiting for Elevate Florida. Maybe
[43:29]
they have a permit under review. Some of
[43:32]
those and then the postfirm no damage is
[43:36]
has the least because those are the ones
[43:37]
that are mostly QC needed. those
[43:40]
anything that's on postfirm or no damage
[43:42]
means that we've manually checked to see
[43:47]
that it's either an elevated house so we
[43:50]
don't have to expect a permit from them
[43:51]
or if it's not an elevated house we have
[43:54]
substantial evidence that we can produce
[43:55]
to FEMA when we get audited on why we
[43:58]
didn't require a permit on that parcel
[43:59]
either through pictures usually pictures
[44:02]
showing that they didn't get any damage
[44:04]
like in some uh unusual situations like
[44:07]
in the high side of Lilian five. A lot
[44:10]
of properties are pre-firm and they
[44:12]
still didn't get much damage. But
[44:14]
technically, our ordinance requires any
[44:16]
repairs need a permit. So, by default,
[44:18]
it would go in one of those statuses.
[44:20]
>> And I'm sorry, I missed I guess I missed
[44:22]
» And I'm sorry, I missed I guess I missed
[44:22]
what you said. What what defines that
[44:24]
gray area, the no permit.
[44:26]
>> The no permit, those are the ones that
[44:28]
» The no permit, those are the ones that
[44:28]
were built before 1975. So, we know it's
[44:32]
prefirm. And they didn't they didn't get
[44:36]
either a remodel, elevation, new builds,
[44:38]
or full demo permit since Alen,
[44:41]
>> but you see that work was done. Is that
[44:42]
» but you see that work was done. Is that
[44:42]
what you're saying?
[44:43]
>> No, not necessarily. We just we have so
[44:45]
» No, not necessarily. We just we have so
[44:45]
we have data from tidal basin that shows
[44:48]
the water level across the community and
[44:52]
we know that obviously every property
[44:55]
that's prefer was submerged in water. So
[44:58]
unless and when FEMA comes to audit the
[45:01]
city, they're going to want
[45:02]
documentation on why this pre-firm
[45:05]
structure is still sitting here with no
[45:08]
permit. So we just put it in the no
[45:10]
permit status to say like we we need
[45:13]
some kind of documentation whether a
[45:14]
permit or something.
[45:17]
>> Okay. Seems it seems like there's a
[45:19]
» Okay. Seems it seems like there's a
[45:19]
little bit of overlap, but I think I
[45:20]
have a better grasp of that. Thank you.
[45:22]
>> Yeah, the data the data is a little
[45:24]
» Yeah, the data the data is a little
[45:24]
rough and what is what is skewing it is
[45:26]
the condominium. So this is kind of a
[45:28]
rough blush at the data. Um and this
[45:30]
wasn't being captured real time during
[45:32]
the storm, right? This was all post
[45:33]
storm. We we got 4Runner, then we were
[45:35]
able to back in data into it. So it's
[45:38]
been a a lot of heavy lift. So it does
[45:40]
need to be cleaned up some. So the the
[45:41]
data is a little misleading because it
[45:43]
is picking up the condo parcels. But
[45:45]
we're going to work with 4Runner to
[45:46]
start separating that data out so that
[45:48]
it doesn't throw off the numbers like
[45:49]
>> but it says updated July 2026. So this
[45:52]
» but it says updated July 2026. So this
[45:52]
is where we are. So we just created this
[45:55]
chart like I know I know you guys wanted
[45:57]
some numbers so I wanted to give you
[45:59]
something. This is the best that I that
[46:01]
I can give you some [clears throat] kind
[46:03]
of data to show the properties. So
[46:06]
that's this is our first run of the of
[46:09]
the data with 4Runner tracking it. They
[46:12]
actually just released this feature to
[46:13]
to create a pie chart like a couple
[46:15]
month like a couple weeks ago.
[46:17]
>> Thank you. This is very helpful. So
[46:19]
» Thank you. This is very helpful. So
[46:19]
that's what the 5261
[46:23]
numbers that you've got there. Uh that's
[46:26]
the total of those. Um so that's all
[46:32]
how did that's all
[46:33]
>> that's all the parial IDs in Madura.
[46:35]
» that's all the parial IDs in Madura.
[46:36]
>> So but of which like you said 100 could
[46:38]
» So but of which like you said 100 could
[46:38]
be in one condo.
[46:39]
>> Yeah. [clears throat] Correct. Because
[46:40]
» Yeah. [clears throat] Correct. Because
[46:40]
each condo is it has its own paral ID.
[46:45]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[46:47]
» Okay. Thank you.
[46:47]
Well, I would also like to add to that
[46:50]
workshop the uh the abandoned swimming
[46:53]
pools that uh the residents that have
[46:57]
reached out to me and my district.
[46:59]
>> Let's wait and do that when we get to
[47:01]
» Let's wait and do that when we get to
[47:01]
the agenda setting.
[47:03]
>> Okay.
[47:03]
» Okay.
[47:03]
>> Adding.
[47:06]
» Adding.
[47:06]
>> All right.
[47:08]
» All right.
[47:08]
>> Well, I mean, we're talking specifically
[47:10]
» Well, I mean, we're talking specifically
[47:10]
about this. So, we're going to add
[47:11]
>> the next workshop is
[47:13]
» the next workshop is
[47:13]
>> when we get to agenda setting,
[47:16]
» when we get to agenda setting,
[47:16]
we can add it then.
[47:18]
>> Sound good?
[47:21]
» Sound good?
[47:21]
>> Do we have a motion?
[47:28]
» Madame Mayor, I would like to adopt
[47:30]
ordinance 2026-09,
[47:33]
nonconformances and rebuilding
[47:35]
regulations.
[47:38]
>> Do we have a second?
[47:38]
» Do we have a second?
[47:38]
>> Second. City clerk, would you call the
[47:40]
» Second. City clerk, would you call the
[47:40]
role, please?
[47:43]
>> Commissioner Gabbay.
[47:44]
» Commissioner Gabbay.
[47:44]
>> Yes.
[47:44]
» Yes.
[47:44]
>> Commissioner Mcan?
[47:46]
» Commissioner Mcan?
[47:46]
>> Yes.
[47:48]
» Yes.
[47:48]
>> Commissioner Taglerini?
[47:49]
» Commissioner Taglerini?
[47:49]
>> Yes.
[47:50]
» Yes.
[47:50]
>> Commissioner Dylan?
[47:51]
» Commissioner Dylan?
[47:51]
>> Yes.
[47:52]
» Yes.
[47:52]
>> Mayor Brooks?
[47:54]
» Mayor Brooks?
[47:54]
>> Yes.
[47:55]
» Yes.
[47:55]
>> The motion carried 5 to zero. Next on
[47:57]
» The motion carried 5 to zero. Next on
[47:57]
the agenda is ABP2026-01,
[48:01]
Florida Fisherman, Inc. And I will hand
[48:03]
this to the city attorney.
[48:04]
>> Thank you, mayor. [clears throat] The
[48:05]
» Thank you, mayor. [clears throat] The
[48:05]
next two items on your agenda are both
[48:07]
quasi judicial. There's a process that
[48:09]
as you know that we go through. I'm just
[48:10]
going to lead you through that process.
[48:12]
So first of all um on the first one um I
[48:16]
need to give you the summary of the
[48:17]
application. Uh, this application is
[48:20]
requesting authorization from the board
[48:22]
of commissioners for the approval of a 2
[48:24]
cop alcoholic beverage license for the
[48:26]
sale of beer and wine by the drink or in
[48:29]
sealed containers for consumption at the
[48:31]
vessel located at 112 Boardwalk Place,
[48:34]
124 Boardwalk Place, 140 Boardwalk Place
[48:37]
here in MadiRaa Beach.
[48:40]
The standards that need to be applied
[48:42]
are those standards set forth in section
[48:44]
110-532 of the code. I'm going to read
[48:47]
them. Uh when considering the alcoholic
[48:50]
beverage application, the board of
[48:51]
commissioners shall consider the
[48:52]
following factors. Number one, the
[48:54]
extent to which the location and the
[48:56]
extent to which the proposed alcoholic
[48:58]
beverage request will adversely affect
[49:00]
the character of the existing
[49:02]
neighborhood. Number two, the extent to
[49:04]
which traffic generated as a result of
[49:06]
the location of the proposed al
[49:08]
alcoholic beverage request will create
[49:10]
congestion or present a safety hazard.
[49:13]
Number three, whether or not the
[49:15]
proposed use is compatible with the
[49:17]
particular location for which is which
[49:19]
it is proposed. Number four, whether or
[49:22]
not the proposed use will adversely
[49:24]
affect the public safety. And number
[49:27]
five, no application for review under
[49:30]
this section shall be considered until
[49:32]
the applicant is paid in full any
[49:35]
outstanding charges, fees, interest,
[49:36]
fines, or penalties owed by the
[49:38]
applicant to the city under any section
[49:41]
of the code.
[49:43]
Uh the burden of proof in this case is
[49:45]
set forth in section 2-10A of your um
[49:49]
code of ordinances and it reads as
[49:51]
follows. The applicant shall have the
[49:53]
burden of proof at the hearing to show
[49:55]
by a greater weight of the evidence that
[49:56]
the application is consistent with the
[49:59]
city's comprehensive plan and complies
[50:01]
with all procedural requirements of law.
[50:04]
Conditions may be suggested by the
[50:06]
applicant, the city or any party or may
[50:08]
be imposed by the board which are
[50:10]
intended to assure consistency.
[50:14]
The parties in this case are the
[50:16]
applicant Florida Fisherman Inc. and the
[50:18]
property owner is JE Investments LLC.
[50:23]
There have been no notices of intent to
[50:25]
become affected parties. So, we won't be
[50:27]
adding anybody else. Uh the order of the
[50:30]
presentation I would propose would be
[50:32]
the city present its um staff report
[50:35]
first followed by the applicant. I need
[50:38]
to go ahead and read the quasi judicial
[50:40]
procedures that you need to follow
[50:42]
today.
[50:43]
This is a quasa judicial proceeding
[50:45]
where the board of commissioners acts in
[50:46]
a quasa judicial rather than a
[50:48]
legislative capacity. At this hearing,
[50:50]
it's not the board's function to make
[50:52]
law, but rather to apply law that has
[50:54]
already been established. In this
[50:56]
hearing, the board is required by law to
[50:58]
make findings of fact based upon
[50:59]
evidence presented at the hearing and
[51:01]
apply those findings of fact to
[51:03]
previously established criteria
[51:04]
contained in the code of ordinances and
[51:06]
in order in order to make a legal
[51:08]
decision regarding the application
[51:09]
before it. The board may may only
[51:12]
consider evidence at the hearing that
[51:14]
the law considers competent,
[51:15]
substantial, and relevant to the issues.
[51:18]
If the competent, substantial, and
[51:20]
relevant evidence of the hearing
[51:21]
demonstrates the applicant has met the
[51:23]
criteria established in the code of
[51:24]
ordinances, then the board is required
[51:26]
by law to find in favor of the
[51:28]
applicant. By the same token, if the
[51:30]
competent substantial and relevant
[51:32]
evidence of the hearing demonstrates the
[51:33]
applicant has failed to meet the
[51:34]
criteria established in the code of
[51:36]
ordinances, then the board is required
[51:38]
by law to find against the applicant.
[51:41]
At this point, I need to ask each and
[51:43]
every commissioner whether or not they
[51:45]
need to report any ex exparte
[51:47]
communications with regard to this
[51:49]
application.
[51:51]
No, I'm seeing no any conflicts of
[51:53]
interest that any of the board members
[51:55]
of the commission need to express at
[51:57]
this time. Okay. All right. At this
[51:59]
point, I need to swear in any witnesses
[52:01]
on this particular agenda item. So,
[52:03]
anyone that's going to speak on this
[52:04]
agenda item, if you could stand up,
[52:06]
raise your right hand, or be sworn under
[52:07]
oath. So, the applicant's not here,
[52:10]
Andrew.
[52:12]
>> Uh, I I'm I mean, they know the date of
[52:14]
» Uh, I I'm I mean, they know the date of
[52:14]
the hearing, so All right. So, do you
[52:17]
swear that you if you swear the
[52:19]
testimony you're about to give is going
[52:20]
to be the truth, the whole truth, and
[52:21]
nothing but the truth?
[52:22]
>> Okay. All right. We're going to need you
[52:24]
» Okay. All right. We're going to need you
[52:24]
to get you in front of that microphone,
[52:25]
Andrew, so we can hear your voice.
[52:27]
>> Okay. No problem.
[52:28]
» Okay. No problem.
[52:28]
>> All right. You ready to make your
[52:30]
» All right. You ready to make your
[52:30]
presentation?
[52:31]
>> Yes, sir.
[52:31]
» Yes, sir.
[52:32]
>> Okay.
[52:32]
» Okay.
[52:32]
>> So, so both of these are um these
[52:34]
» So, so both of these are um these
[52:34]
applications are pretty similar. Um but
[52:37]
for alcohol permits there um when it's
[52:41]
related to a vessel, it has to be for
[52:43]
each ship. So that's why there's two of
[52:44]
them. Um so this one is for a dolphin
[52:48]
quest 2. Um so pursuant to land
[52:51]
development code article
[52:54]
let's see division six alcohol beverages
[52:57]
the applicant for AP 202601 is
[53:00]
requesting authorization from the board
[53:01]
of commissioners for approval of a 2COP
[53:04]
alcoholic beverage license for the sale
[53:05]
of beer and wine by the the drink or in
[53:08]
seal containers for consumption at the
[53:10]
vessel located at 112 Boardwalk Place
[53:12]
124 Boardwalk Place and 140 Boardwalk
[53:15]
Place Madira Beach Florida. This
[53:17]
establishment is in the C1 Johns Pass
[53:19]
Village Activity Center zoning district
[53:21]
and the boardwalk character district.
[53:22]
The future land use designation for the
[53:24]
property's activity center. Pursuant to
[53:26]
section 110 539, the notice of public
[53:29]
hearing has been properly sent to all
[53:31]
property owners within 300 ft of the
[53:33]
subject property 15 days before the
[53:35]
scheduled consideration by the board of
[53:37]
commissioners. Such notice has also been
[53:38]
posted on the subject property at the
[53:41]
Gulf Beach's public library, city hall,
[53:43]
and the city of Madira Beach website.
[53:45]
The public notice, mailing address, and
[53:47]
posting pictures are included in the
[53:48]
agenda packet.
[53:50]
Um, when considering the alcoholic
[53:53]
beverage license application, the board
[53:54]
commissioner shall consider the
[53:55]
following factors. To the extent to
[53:57]
which the location and extent to which
[54:00]
the proposed alcoholic beverage requests
[54:02]
will adversely
[54:05]
affect the character of the existing
[54:06]
neighborhood. The proposed alcohol
[54:07]
beverage license is in the boardwalk
[54:09]
character district of the John's Pest
[54:11]
Village Activity Center. The boardwalk
[54:12]
character district supports various
[54:14]
commercial uses that are oriented
[54:15]
towards tourism and maintaining the the
[54:18]
fishing village character of John's Pest
[54:20]
Village. Various businesses in the
[54:22]
boardwalk character district serve
[54:23]
alcoholic beverages. Serving alcoholic
[54:25]
beverages on charter boats would not
[54:27]
adversely affect the character of the
[54:28]
neighborhood. The extent to which
[54:30]
traffic generated as a result of the
[54:32]
location of the proposed alcoholic
[54:34]
beverage request will create congestion
[54:35]
or present a safety hazard. Uh the
[54:38]
affluent listed three parking spaces,
[54:40]
one handicap parking space and five
[54:41]
bicycle stalls up to which are worth up
[54:45]
to three uh parking creds. This property
[54:46]
is in the John's Pest Village special
[54:49]
parking area which allows for the
[54:51]
reduction of the required off- streetet
[54:54]
parking by 50%. Since the property is
[54:56]
located in a special parking area, each
[54:59]
charbo boat would require 1.5 spaces.
[55:01]
Additional parking is available in a
[55:03]
privately owned parking garage across
[55:05]
the street, but the existing on-site
[55:07]
parking is considered sufficient. It is
[55:09]
not foreseen that serving beer and wine
[55:11]
on an existing showboat service would
[55:13]
create additional congestion or present
[55:15]
a safety hazard. Whether or not the
[55:18]
proposed use is compatible with the
[55:19]
particular location for which it is
[55:21]
proposed, applicant the applicant says
[55:23]
that the license would be for selling
[55:25]
beer and wine and prepackaged drinks on
[55:27]
a pleasure cruise vessel used for
[55:29]
dolphin watches and sunset tours. When
[55:31]
the alcohol is not being sold on the
[55:33]
charter boats, that alcohol will be
[55:34]
stored on property. The proposed use of
[55:37]
selling alcohol beverages on a charter
[55:38]
boat is compatible with the this
[55:40]
particular location. Whether or not the
[55:42]
proposed use will adversely affect
[55:44]
public safety. Serving beer and wine on
[55:46]
a churbo boat would not uh adversely
[55:49]
affect public safety. The proposed
[55:50]
alcoholic beverage license would be
[55:51]
replacing an existing alcohol alcoholic
[55:54]
beverage license because of a change in
[55:56]
ownership. The vessels are licensed and
[55:58]
registered with the US Coast Guard. The
[56:00]
dock where the vessel is located is more
[56:01]
than 500 ft away from any established
[56:04]
church, synagogue, temple, or place of
[56:06]
religious worship, public or private
[56:07]
school operating for the instruction of
[56:10]
minors or youth recreation center. No
[56:12]
application for the review under this
[56:14]
section shall be considered until the
[56:15]
applicant has paid in full any
[56:18]
outstanding charges, fees, interest,
[56:19]
fines, or penalties owed by the
[56:21]
applicant to the city under any sections
[56:22]
of the code.
[56:24]
applicant has no outstanding fines or
[56:28]
penalties owed to the city under any
[56:29]
section of the code. And uh the city
[56:32]
staff recommends the approval of ABP
[56:34]
2026-01.
[56:36]
Attached are the uh local application
[56:39]
and support materials and the public
[56:41]
notice mailing and posting packet which
[56:43]
shows that we we mailed out and posted
[56:46]
the the public notice in the required
[56:48]
time.
[56:50]
>> Okay. You're asking the city receive
[56:52]
» Okay. You're asking the city receive
[56:52]
into evidence your staff report, Mr.
[56:54]
Morris?
[56:55]
>> Yes, sir.
[56:55]
» Yes, sir.
[56:56]
>> Okay. Any questions of Mr. Morris?
[56:59]
» Okay. Any questions of Mr. Morris?
[56:59]
I'm not seeing any. Again, is the
[57:01]
applicant for this application here in
[57:02]
the audience?
[57:05]
>> All right. Mayor, there's no one here.
[57:07]
» All right. Mayor, there's no one here.
[57:07]
Anyone in the public want to speak on
[57:08]
this agenda item?
[57:11]
It's back to the commission then for
[57:12]
consideration and approval.
[57:15]
>> Any questions or comments?
[57:18]
» Any questions or comments?
[57:18]
>> I've got one. I was on that ship, the
[57:21]
» I've got one. I was on that ship, the
[57:21]
pirate ship many years ago and they
[57:22]
serve beer. So now they're selling it.
[57:25]
Is that what the difference is? Or is it
[57:28]
changing ownership? I think you said
[57:30]
>> this one was a change change of
[57:32]
» this one was a change change of
[57:32]
ownership. Um sometimes when owners ch
[57:35]
they don't want to transfer the alcohol
[57:37]
license over uh that they have. So then
[57:39]
they have then the new owner has to
[57:41]
apply for a new one.
[57:46]
» Any additional comments?
[57:50]
Do we have a motion?
[57:53]
>> Are we Are we doing both of them or just
[57:55]
» Are we Are we doing both of them or just
[57:55]
one at a time?
[57:55]
>> Just one.
[57:56]
» Just one.
[57:56]
>> One at a time.
[57:56]
» One at a time.
[57:56]
>> Uh, I move the approval of AP 20261.
[58:01]
» Uh, I move the approval of AP 20261.
[58:01]
>> Do we have a second?
[58:02]
» Do we have a second?
[58:02]
>> Second.
[58:03]
» Second.
[58:03]
>> City clerk, would you call the role,
[58:05]
» City clerk, would you call the role,
[58:05]
please?
[58:06]
>> Commissioner Tagler,
[58:08]
» Commissioner Tagler,
[58:08]
>> yes.
[58:08]
» yes.
[58:08]
>> Commissioner Dylan,
[58:09]
» Commissioner Dylan,
[58:09]
>> yes.
[58:10]
» yes.
[58:10]
>> Vice Mayor McGee,
[58:12]
» Vice Mayor McGee,
[58:12]
>> yes.
[58:12]
» yes.
[58:12]
>> Commissioner Gavay,
[58:13]
» Commissioner Gavay,
[58:13]
>> yes.
[58:14]
» yes.
[58:14]
>> Mayor Brooks,
[58:15]
» Mayor Brooks,
[58:15]
>> yes. The motion carried by to zero.
[58:17]
» yes. The motion carried by to zero.
[58:17]
[clears throat]
[58:18]
>> Next on the agenda is ABP2026-02
[58:22]
» Next on the agenda is ABP2026-02
[58:22]
Florida Fisherman Inc. and I will hand
[58:24]
this to the city attorney.
[58:25]
>> Thank you. Okay. The summary of this
[58:26]
» Thank you. Okay. The summary of this
[58:26]
application is that the applicant is
[58:28]
requesting authorization from the board
[58:29]
of commissioners for the approval of a
[58:31]
two cop alcoholic beverage license for
[58:34]
the sale of beer and um and wine by by
[58:36]
the drink or in seal containers for
[58:38]
consumption at the vessel located at 112
[58:40]
Boardwalk Place, 124 Boardwalk Place,
[58:42]
and 140 Boardwalk Place here in MadiRaa
[58:45]
Beach. The standards to be applied are
[58:47]
those that you I just listed in the
[58:49]
previous application. The burden of
[58:51]
proof um is the same. The identity of
[58:54]
the parties are the same. Um the order
[58:57]
of presentation is going to be the same.
[58:59]
The quasa judicial procedures follow the
[59:02]
same as I just read. Any exparte
[59:04]
communications on this application?
[59:06]
Anybody needs to report?
[59:08]
>> No. Um any conflicts of interest that
[59:10]
» No. Um any conflicts of interest that
[59:10]
need to be addressed?
[59:12]
>> No.
[59:12]
» No.
[59:12]
>> No. Okay. So, I've already sworn in all
[59:15]
» No. Okay. So, I've already sworn in all
[59:15]
the witnesses. So, Mr. Moors, um it's
[59:19]
back to you. The only the only
[59:21]
difference is this is for a pirate ship.
[59:25]
So other than that, my uh staff reports
[59:27]
pretty pretty identical to the other
[59:29]
one. I I think unless you want me to
[59:32]
reread through it again. Um but that's
[59:35]
it's for the for the the pirate ship.
[59:38]
That's not necessary, Mr. Morris, unless
[59:41]
the commission wants that. I'm not
[59:43]
seeing any um objection to you. Um do
[59:47]
you want to submit your report into
[59:48]
evidence, though?
[59:49]
>> Yeah. Yes, sir.
[59:50]
» Yeah. Yes, sir.
[59:50]
>> Okay. So, that'd be received in evidence
[59:52]
» Okay. So, that'd be received in evidence
[59:52]
>> and and is is is the Are any questions
[59:55]
» and and is is is the Are any questions
[59:56]
of Mr. Morris on this one?
[59:58]
>> No. Okay. Thank you. Um is the applicant
[1:00:00]
» No. Okay. Thank you. Um is the applicant
[1:00:00]
here on this application? No one here.
[1:00:03]
Anyone from the public want to address
[1:00:04]
this application?
[1:00:07]
No one here. It's back to the commission
[1:00:08]
for consideration approval.
[1:00:10]
>> Do we have a motion?
[1:00:12]
» Do we have a motion?
[1:00:12]
>> I make a motion to approve ABP 20262
[1:00:18]
» I make a motion to approve ABP 20262
[1:00:18]
mailing and Second fisherman. Yeah.
[1:00:21]
>> City clerk, would you call the role,
[1:00:22]
» City clerk, would you call the role,
[1:00:22]
please?
[1:00:24]
>> Commissioner Dylan,
[1:00:25]
» Commissioner Dylan,
[1:00:25]
>> yes.
[1:00:26]
» yes.
[1:00:26]
>> Commissioner Tagalini,
[1:00:27]
» Commissioner Tagalini,
[1:00:27]
>> yes.
[1:00:28]
» yes.
[1:00:28]
>> Vice Mayor McGin,
[1:00:30]
» Vice Mayor McGin,
[1:00:30]
>> yes.
[1:00:30]
» yes.
[1:00:30]
>> Commissioner Gabayi,
[1:00:32]
» Commissioner Gabayi,
[1:00:32]
>> yes.
[1:00:32]
» yes.
[1:00:32]
>> Mayor Brooks,
[1:00:33]
» Mayor Brooks,
[1:00:33]
>> yes.
[1:00:34]
» yes.
[1:00:34]
>> The motion carried 5 to zero.
[1:00:36]
» The motion carried 5 to zero.
[1:00:36]
>> With no unfinished business, next on the
[1:00:38]
» With no unfinished business, next on the
[1:00:38]
agenda is contracts and agreements, air
[1:00:41]
DNA software purchase. And I believe the
[1:00:44]
city manager will take this or
[1:00:49]
All right. Um, mayor, vice mayor,
[1:00:51]
commission. What this contract is is
[1:00:54]
[clears throat] um software that
[1:00:56]
identifies short-term vacation rentals.
[1:00:58]
Uh, BRBO, Airbnb.
[1:01:00]
Uh, we've had issues. There's been
[1:01:02]
public comment related to whether um
[1:01:06]
short-term vacation rentals are legal in
[1:01:09]
their current setting or where they're
[1:01:12]
even at. So Marcy and myself, we
[1:01:15]
[clears throat] sat through many, many
[1:01:17]
presentations with various um software
[1:01:20]
programs. This was the most cost
[1:01:22]
effective. Um it does everything that
[1:01:24]
all the other ones do. It doesn't have
[1:01:25]
all the frills and benefits and what
[1:01:27]
have you, but it gives us the the raw
[1:01:29]
data that we want. And what that does is
[1:01:32]
that this will turn into the fee
[1:01:35]
schedule that you all approved earlier
[1:01:37]
because now we per Florida state
[1:01:40]
statute, they have to have a life safety
[1:01:41]
fire inspection and we charge for that,
[1:01:44]
you know, and then it will also help
[1:01:46]
community development. I'll let Marcy
[1:01:48]
speak on that. And we are looking to
[1:01:50]
split this down the middle between both
[1:01:52]
departments.
[1:01:54]
The the benefit that community
[1:01:57]
development will see from this is
[1:01:58]
through the code enforcement and finding
[1:02:00]
short-term rentals. Uh they'll be able
[1:02:02]
to provide the data to us in a lat long
[1:02:04]
format which will then feed into
[1:02:06]
4Erunner and it'll interact with our map
[1:02:10]
that shows where short terminals are
[1:02:11]
allowed and where they're not and help
[1:02:13]
flush out the ones that are being
[1:02:16]
advertised at locations where they're
[1:02:17]
not legally allowed to operate. So that
[1:02:20]
would help code enforcement. and they'll
[1:02:21]
also identify ones that are operating
[1:02:23]
legally but maybe didn't know they
[1:02:24]
needed a BTR and stuff like that. So, we
[1:02:26]
would then be able to contact them. Um,
[1:02:28]
we would be able to do our rental
[1:02:29]
inspections as well. So, that would be
[1:02:31]
helpful in identifying that too.
[1:02:35]
>> Do we have any public comment?
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» Oh, sorry.
[1:02:43]
>> Hi, Bob 13301 Golf Lane. [clears throat]
[1:02:47]
» Hi, Bob 13301 Golf Lane. [clears throat]
[1:02:47]
Uh, prepared a couple notes. I saw the
[1:02:50]
AirDNA DNA contract on the agenda and as
[1:02:54]
both the real estate broker and owner of
[1:02:56]
multiple short-term rental properties, I
[1:02:58]
wanted to offer some perspective for the
[1:03:00]
commission's consideration. In reviewing
[1:03:02]
the memorandum, I understand the primary
[1:03:04]
purpose of software is to help identify
[1:03:06]
illegal or unregistered short-term
[1:03:08]
rentals. I fully support that goal. um
[1:03:11]
those operating outside the rules can
[1:03:13]
negatively impact those of us who have
[1:03:15]
taken the necessary steps to operate
[1:03:16]
legally and comply with city
[1:03:18]
requirements. My concern however is with
[1:03:21]
the accuracy and uh and reliability of
[1:03:24]
the ARDNA data. In my experience
[1:03:27]
reviewing ARDNA data, I found it to be
[1:03:29]
questionable at best. Um for instance,
[1:03:33]
um the main use of their software is to
[1:03:35]
project what you will make it as far as
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rental income.
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it's horribly often from my use cases.
[1:03:45]
Um, so if their main use is
[1:03:50]
that poor, it I I'd kind of question
[1:03:53]
some of the other secondary data they
[1:03:55]
provide. Um, so more relevant to the
[1:03:57]
city's proposed use. I'm also aware of
[1:04:00]
properties that continue to appear in
[1:04:02]
AirDNA's system even though they've been
[1:04:04]
dormant and have not operated as
[1:04:06]
short-term rental for extended periods
[1:04:08]
of time. sometimes even years because
[1:04:11]
one of my old properties show up that
[1:04:12]
way. Um, before the city relies on this
[1:04:15]
data, I identify potential violations or
[1:04:17]
send notifications to property owners. I
[1:04:19]
would encourage commission to make sure
[1:04:20]
there's additional checks and balances
[1:04:22]
in place to independently verify the
[1:04:24]
information. AirDNA may be useful as an
[1:04:27]
initial screening tool, but I'd caution
[1:04:29]
against treating its data as definitive
[1:04:31]
evidence that a property is currently
[1:04:33]
operating as a legal short-term rental.
[1:04:36]
Um, is a weird coincidence today. I've
[1:04:38]
actually received an email from a
[1:04:40]
property management group um, just
[1:04:42]
forwarding to me the AirDNA software
[1:04:45]
telling me how much I can make with one
[1:04:47]
of my properties as a short-term rental.
[1:04:49]
The only problem there are projections
[1:04:51]
for this property. It's not legally
[1:04:52]
zoned to be a short-term rental.
[1:04:55]
So, just again, there's some some
[1:04:58]
challenges. Ultimately, I support the
[1:05:00]
city's efforts to identify and address
[1:05:03]
um, illegal short-term rentals. I simply
[1:05:05]
want to make sure the city's getting
[1:05:07]
reliable value for the approximately
[1:05:10]
$22,000 being spent and that property
[1:05:12]
owners are not being unnecessarily
[1:05:14]
contacted or subjected to enforcement
[1:05:16]
efforts because it's inaccurate or
[1:05:18]
outdated third party data. Thank you for
[1:05:20]
your consideration.
[1:05:22]
>> Thank you. Do we have any additional
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» Thank you. Do we have any additional
[1:05:23]
public comment
[1:05:25]
commissioners?
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>> So I thank you for that m Mr. Bellis.
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» So I thank you for that m Mr. Bellis.
[1:05:31]
So,
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it seems like this is a a real advantage
[1:05:36]
for us because in the past code
[1:05:38]
enforcement has struggled with
[1:05:40]
identifying without a lot of specific
[1:05:43]
evidence that there is being a
[1:05:45]
short-term rental uh in in place. How
[1:05:48]
will will this help us bypass some of
[1:05:50]
this? Is is it going to require less,
[1:05:53]
>> you know, a video of people moving in
[1:05:55]
» you know, a video of people moving in
[1:05:55]
and out? Is it going to be
[1:05:56]
>> Exactly. And this and the backside of
[1:05:59]
» Exactly. And this and the backside of
[1:05:59]
this, this will also help with um code
[1:06:01]
compliance because we were putting
[1:06:04]
together an actual process now working
[1:06:06]
with Marcy and PCSO deputies cuz before
[1:06:10]
there were some um things that were
[1:06:12]
getting lost in translation. The
[1:06:14]
deputies might be notified of a
[1:06:16]
short-term vacation rental that's
[1:06:18]
operating illegally. They will go out
[1:06:20]
and notify. they're doing their job, but
[1:06:22]
then the process ended there. So, we
[1:06:25]
weren't notified of it as as the city.
[1:06:28]
So, we're actually implementing new
[1:06:30]
policies and procedures related to all
[1:06:32]
of this as a as a whole.
[1:06:33]
>> Will there be members of of your
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» Will there be members of of your
[1:06:35]
department, the fire department, who are
[1:06:37]
going to be doing some of this now in
[1:06:38]
addition to our
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>> Absolutely. This is [clears throat] per
[1:06:43]
» Absolutely. This is [clears throat] per
[1:06:43]
um the information on the surface that
[1:06:45]
we got from AirDNA because they they
[1:06:47]
obviously don't want to give us the all
[1:06:49]
the information for free, you know. So,
[1:06:52]
they gave us some information based on
[1:06:54]
those numbers. That's where the uh
[1:06:56]
second fire inspector will come into
[1:06:58]
play. And this is from the on the
[1:07:01]
surface again on the surface level
[1:07:03]
numbers that they provided. it will more
[1:07:06]
than pay for the our half of the
[1:07:07]
contract and pay for that fire inspector
[1:07:09]
position and still produce revenue. And
[1:07:12]
um just to address Mr. Bellow's comment
[1:07:15]
too, the the AirDNA, they don't they
[1:07:18]
don't know our zoning. So they just see
[1:07:21]
a a uh short-term vacation rental, but
[1:07:23]
when we have that information, it's up
[1:07:25]
to us to do what we want with it. You
[1:07:26]
know, they don't know that it's illegal
[1:07:28]
or not. They don't they don't have
[1:07:29]
access to the zoning or if they do,
[1:07:31]
they're not going to dig that deep into
[1:07:32]
it. Well, then can you see a situation
[1:07:34]
where something might happen where you
[1:07:35]
would go to some place uh that I've
[1:07:38]
identified as a short-term rental and it
[1:07:40]
turns out some for some reason it's not?
[1:07:41]
I mean, it's not an automatic ding to
[1:07:43]
them. Right. [clears throat]
[1:07:44]
>> Correct. So, what they do is um if if
[1:07:48]
» Correct. So, what they do is um if if
[1:07:48]
they have if they are active listed for
[1:07:51]
even one day in a 30-day period, they
[1:07:53]
show up on the on our monthly report.
[1:07:56]
And then if they go dormant, they're
[1:07:58]
supposed to anyways um pull be dropped
[1:08:01]
from that list. And then once they go
[1:08:03]
active again, we'll be 30 days behind,
[1:08:05]
but then they'll show up on the next
[1:08:07]
listing, the next monthly report showing
[1:08:10]
that even for one day, they advertise
[1:08:12]
that they were available to be rented.
[1:08:15]
>> Thank you. I sir, I love this idea.
[1:08:18]
» Thank you. I sir, I love this idea.
[1:08:18]
>> I thank you for the research you did,
[1:08:20]
» I thank you for the research you did,
[1:08:20]
Mr. Bellows. Thank you for yours as
[1:08:22]
well. And as I recall or believe, it's a
[1:08:25]
12-month lease. So, I don't think we can
[1:08:28]
go wrong with the 12-month lease. And
[1:08:31]
Bob, you're certainly active in the
[1:08:34]
city. So, if you keep coming back
[1:08:37]
occasionally and see and we can kind of
[1:08:39]
bounce some things off of you. I think
[1:08:41]
it's a great idea, though. A step
[1:08:43]
definitely in the right direction.
[1:08:45]
>> Yes. In speaking with city manager
[1:08:47]
» Yes. In speaking with city manager
[1:08:47]
Hellfrick, you know, we they offered a a
[1:08:49]
little discount going for a two-year
[1:08:52]
contract. We agreed, you know, sitting
[1:08:54]
down and discussing it that let's just
[1:08:56]
see what they're able to do for us for
[1:08:58]
that first year and then we can go from
[1:09:00]
there.
[1:09:02]
>> I'm definitely for it. Great idea.
[1:09:05]
» I'm definitely for it. Great idea.
[1:09:05]
>> Thank you.
[1:09:06]
» Thank you.
[1:09:06]
>> Is there any competition?
[1:09:08]
» Is there any competition?
[1:09:08]
>> Oh, yeah. There's a uh we sat with I
[1:09:11]
» Oh, yeah. There's a uh we sat with I
[1:09:11]
don't want to name the companies, but
[1:09:13]
one was well into the six figures for
[1:09:16]
their their software. One was um 8 in
[1:09:19]
the 80s. Another one was 55,000. And
[1:09:22]
then once we got with AirDNA, I
[1:09:25]
understand it's not uh the all the
[1:09:27]
frills and benefits that the other
[1:09:29]
companies can offer, but we don't need
[1:09:31]
that. We just need the locations.
[1:09:35]
>> So yeah, there there's definitely others
[1:09:37]
» So yeah, there there's definitely others
[1:09:37]
out there. much much more expensive.
[1:09:40]
>> So, you're vetted.
[1:09:41]
» So, you're vetted.
[1:09:41]
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Me, myself, Marcy, her
[1:09:44]
» Oh, yeah. Yeah. Me, myself, Marcy, her
[1:09:44]
staff, uh the fire marshall, we sat in
[1:09:46]
many many presentations
[1:09:48]
>> to get to the end point where they
[1:09:50]
» to get to the end point where they
[1:09:50]
dropped the price on us and we say, "No,
[1:09:52]
that's we just wasted an hour of our
[1:09:54]
day."
[1:09:55]
>> And we sat with me in many presentations
[1:09:57]
» And we sat with me in many presentations
[1:09:57]
with AirDNA as well. When we had a
[1:10:00]
question, I would get with their rep.
[1:10:02]
She would set up a team's meeting and we
[1:10:04]
would discuss everything and any
[1:10:06]
questions we had she would answer.
[1:10:08]
>> And the fees will be paid upfront or
[1:10:10]
» And the fees will be paid upfront or
[1:10:10]
would that be month?
[1:10:12]
>> It's an annual fee. So we we would go
[1:10:14]
» It's an annual fee. So we we would go
[1:10:14]
and do their just like a a regular
[1:10:17]
business in the city. They would get
[1:10:19]
their annual life safety inspection
[1:10:21]
every year and it's per again as per
[1:10:23]
Florida state statute. We don't ask for
[1:10:25]
anything more or anything less.
[1:10:28]
>> Y thank you.
[1:10:29]
» Y thank you.
[1:10:29]
>> Yes sir. So, the only question I have on
[1:10:31]
» Yes sir. So, the only question I have on
[1:10:31]
the contract is that it is an automatic
[1:10:34]
renewal, and we don't typically do
[1:10:35]
automatic renewal contracts.
[1:10:39]
This one will automatically renew unless
[1:10:42]
you give 90 days written notice.
[1:10:46]
I would be in favor of not having that
[1:10:48]
in there and and removing the 90 days
[1:10:51]
and h making them have to give us a new
[1:10:54]
contract every year.
[1:10:55]
>> Agreed. I
[1:10:56]
» Agreed. I
[1:10:56]
>> So that we don't miss it cuz
[1:10:57]
» So that we don't miss it cuz
[1:10:57]
>> Yeah. I and I know we don't typically do
[1:11:00]
» Yeah. I and I know we don't typically do
[1:11:00]
that. I sorry if I missed that.
[1:11:02]
>> Yeah, good advice.
[1:11:03]
» Yeah, good advice.
[1:11:04]
>> And
[1:11:04]
» And
[1:11:04]
>> it's all I have to give input on this.
[1:11:06]
» it's all I have to give input on this.
[1:11:06]
>> Yeah.
[1:11:06]
» Yeah.
[1:11:06]
>> Attorney Tras, would you like me to send
[1:11:08]
» Attorney Tras, would you like me to send
[1:11:08]
that back over to them and copy you or
[1:11:10]
would you like to
[1:11:12]
>> handle that? You can tell them what the
[1:11:13]
» handle that? You can tell them what the
[1:11:13]
what the commission is considering and
[1:11:16]
they'll approve it subject to the re the
[1:11:17]
deletion of that language.
[1:11:19]
>> Okay.
[1:11:19]
» Okay.
[1:11:19]
>> Yeah.
[1:11:21]
» Yeah.
[1:11:21]
So, can we have a motion to approve the
[1:11:24]
contract with the
[1:11:26]
removal of the 90-day
[1:11:29]
notice?
[1:11:33]
» I move that we approve the 12-month
[1:11:36]
subscription agreement with Air DND LLC
[1:11:39]
with the removal of the automatic
[1:11:42]
renewal.
[1:11:43]
>> We have a second. City clerk, would you
[1:11:45]
» We have a second. City clerk, would you
[1:11:45]
call the role, please?
[1:11:49]
Commissioner Taglerini,
[1:11:51]
>> yes.
[1:11:51]
» yes.
[1:11:51]
>> Commissioner Dylan,
[1:11:52]
» Commissioner Dylan,
[1:11:52]
>> yes.
[1:11:53]
» yes.
[1:11:53]
>> Vice Mayor McGee,
[1:11:55]
» Vice Mayor McGee,
[1:11:55]
>> yes.
[1:11:56]
» yes.
[1:11:56]
>> Commissioner Gabbay,
[1:11:57]
» Commissioner Gabbay,
[1:11:57]
>> yes.
[1:11:57]
» yes.
[1:11:57]
>> Mayor Brooks,
[1:11:58]
» Mayor Brooks,
[1:11:58]
>> yes.
[1:11:59]
» yes.
[1:11:59]
>> The motion carried 5 to zero. Next on
[1:12:01]
» The motion carried 5 to zero. Next on
[1:12:01]
the agenda is the revision to the
[1:12:03]
Readington EMS station funding
[1:12:05]
agreement.
[1:12:06]
>> Yes.
[1:12:06]
» Yes.
[1:12:06]
>> Chief,
[1:12:07]
» Chief,
[1:12:07]
>> this was the it's basically the same
[1:12:09]
» this was the it's basically the same
[1:12:09]
agreement that was presented to the
[1:12:10]
board uh last month. They sent it back
[1:12:13]
to us because they wanted the signature
[1:12:15]
page changed to where the county
[1:12:17]
administrator could sign versus bringing
[1:12:20]
it to the board of county commissioners.
[1:12:21]
And that is the only thing that has
[1:12:23]
changed. The funding is still 100%
[1:12:25]
coming from Penllis County. And um city
[1:12:28]
of Madura Beach is still the project
[1:12:29]
manager.
[1:12:31]
>> Do we have any public comment?
[1:12:34]
» Do we have any public comment?
[1:12:34]
Commission, do you have any questions or
[1:12:35]
comments?
[1:12:38]
If not, do we have a motion?
[1:12:42]
I make a motion
[1:12:45]
uh to approve the uh funding agreement
[1:12:48]
with the uh Bington Beaches EMS station.
[1:12:52]
>> Do we have a second?
[1:12:53]
» Do we have a second?
[1:12:53]
>> Second.
[1:12:54]
» Second.
[1:12:54]
>> City clerk, would you call the role,
[1:12:55]
» City clerk, would you call the role,
[1:12:55]
please?
[1:12:57]
>> Vice Mayor McGee?
[1:12:58]
» Vice Mayor McGee?
[1:12:58]
>> Yes.
[1:12:59]
» Yes.
[1:12:59]
>> Commissioner Dylan?
[1:13:00]
» Commissioner Dylan?
[1:13:00]
>> Yes.
[1:13:01]
» Yes.
[1:13:01]
>> Commissioner Tagarini?
[1:13:02]
» Commissioner Tagarini?
[1:13:02]
>> Yes.
[1:13:03]
» Yes.
[1:13:03]
>> Commissioner Gabayi?
[1:13:04]
» Commissioner Gabayi?
[1:13:04]
>> Yes.
[1:13:05]
» Yes.
[1:13:05]
>> Mayor Brooks?
[1:13:06]
» Mayor Brooks?
[1:13:06]
>> Yes.
[1:13:07]
» Yes.
[1:13:07]
>> The motion carry 5 to zero. Thank you.
[1:13:09]
» The motion carry 5 to zero. Thank you.
[1:13:09]
>> Next on the agenda is new business, the
[1:13:11]
» Next on the agenda is new business, the
[1:13:11]
authorization to proceed with due
[1:13:13]
diligence. And I'm going to give this to
[1:13:15]
the city manager.
[1:13:17]
>> Uh mayor and commissioners, um
[1:13:20]
» Uh mayor and commissioners, um
[1:13:20]
[clears throat] we have discussed uh
[1:13:22]
purchasing the 455 property and um we
[1:13:27]
had an u an agreement that um we have
[1:13:32]
had reviewed by the city attorney and
[1:13:34]
also the by uh the sellers attorney. um
[1:13:39]
I'm sorry, real estate agent and uh we
[1:13:43]
just uh received
[1:13:45]
uh the um
[1:13:48]
their signatures on the document.
[1:13:51]
However, we have not allowed you all to
[1:13:54]
review it uh sufficiently at this time.
[1:13:57]
Um so I s I'm going to suggest that we
[1:14:01]
maybe have a a special meeting for that.
[1:14:05]
um or unless you all want to to review
[1:14:08]
it right now. Uh it's about 16 I think
[1:14:13]
maybe 17 pages long. Um but I'm going to
[1:14:18]
leave that up to you to decide how you
[1:14:20]
wanted to um to proceed.
[1:14:24]
Um, before we go to public comment,
[1:14:26]
commission, do you have any questions or
[1:14:28]
comments or opinions on what the city
[1:14:30]
may
[1:14:31]
>> I have a question.
[1:14:34]
» I have a question.
[1:14:34]
Why do we need this property?
[1:14:37]
What is the
[1:14:39]
end goal?
[1:14:43]
» I understand we property.
[1:14:45]
>> Yeah.
[1:14:45]
» Yeah.
[1:14:45]
>> Well, there's there's a couple of
[1:14:47]
» Well, there's there's a couple of
[1:14:47]
reasons why. um it's splitting the two
[1:14:50]
properties that we own right now. Uh it
[1:14:54]
so without owning that, we don't have a
[1:14:56]
continuous property. The other thing is
[1:14:59]
is that on the west side of the property
[1:15:04]
that we just bought for $18 million, we
[1:15:08]
would not be able to use um that area to
[1:15:13]
um to dock boats on. So, we would only
[1:15:16]
have a two-sided
[1:15:18]
marina instead of a three-sided marina.
[1:15:22]
Um, and those that would be that would
[1:15:25]
be my reasons uh for buying it.
[1:15:33]
I I have obviously I would look at the
[1:15:35]
full contract, but I in in the memos
[1:15:37]
that we were provided regarding the
[1:15:39]
former underground gasoline storage tank
[1:15:42]
uh and historical petroleum discharge
[1:15:44]
and soil impacts have bear confirmed not
[1:15:47]
not fully deliated. That's in the
[1:15:49]
wording that we saw. Is there anything
[1:15:50]
that would could be discovered that
[1:15:52]
would prevent the purchase of the
[1:15:54]
property? And if there's a substantial
[1:15:56]
environmental issue, would we be able to
[1:15:58]
negotiate the price?
[1:16:01]
Um my understanding is a a an environ
[1:16:05]
phase one environmental site assessment
[1:16:08]
is required
[1:16:10]
uh that um so we would proceed with an
[1:16:14]
environmental site assessment. If
[1:16:16]
something came up uh that determined
[1:16:19]
that we needed to do a a phase two site
[1:16:22]
assessment, it's in the contract that
[1:16:24]
says we have um up to 60 days to get a a
[1:16:29]
phase two. Phase two is sampling and
[1:16:32]
things of that effect. as we were I was
[1:16:35]
going through the um the environmental
[1:16:38]
um I think it's called a supplemental
[1:16:40]
site assessment that was done that was
[1:16:42]
the um that's in the um
[1:16:48]
in your package. Uh it states that that
[1:16:52]
the contamination was just in the soil
[1:16:56]
and not in the groundwater. Therefore,
[1:16:59]
most likely we would not have to proceed
[1:17:02]
with a an environmental site assessment.
[1:17:05]
Um, a phase two environmental sight
[1:17:07]
assessment. Um,
[1:17:10]
therefore, I I don't think at this point
[1:17:14]
right now that there's any kind of of of
[1:17:17]
risk of of contamination there. However,
[1:17:21]
there is soil contamination. Okay, we
[1:17:26]
know that from the from the uh report.
[1:17:30]
So, a reduction in price, I'm not sure
[1:17:33]
that that's something that
[1:17:36]
>> Yeah, I I don't believe that. But a
[1:17:39]
» Yeah, I I don't believe that. But a
[1:17:40]
phase two of site assessment would be
[1:17:43]
determined after the phase one site
[1:17:46]
assessment.
[1:17:53]
I I I mean, you know, I'm coming into
[1:17:55]
this kind of blind. Uh the four of you
[1:17:59]
were
[1:18:01]
apprised with the other property
[1:18:05]
beforehand and I had some questions
[1:18:08]
about that which I can't ask anybody.
[1:18:13]
So, I'm kind of like with my hands tied,
[1:18:15]
but here we're jumping. And I was just
[1:18:17]
looking through here to see if there
[1:18:18]
were any numbers. But I, you know, I
[1:18:21]
don't know
[1:18:24]
in
[1:18:25]
right faith that we're jumping into the
[1:18:28]
right thing. And just from a standpoint
[1:18:31]
of
[1:18:33]
I understand being the whole continuous
[1:18:36]
thing, but
[1:18:39]
um how much grief are we going to be
[1:18:42]
getting more from this? And and I guess
[1:18:44]
I'm going back with the thing of I had
[1:18:47]
talks with Mike about
[1:18:50]
putting a whole plan together. And you
[1:18:54]
know, one of the things like I didn't
[1:18:57]
know going into the idea with a plan. So
[1:19:00]
by having this piece of property now,
[1:19:04]
there is another look about plans. And I
[1:19:07]
guess I'm I'm I'm kind of bambling here,
[1:19:10]
but I'm like, you know, I know
[1:19:12]
information, but I don't know
[1:19:13]
information. And um I need more
[1:19:17]
information here. I mean, you know, but
[1:19:19]
I'm just one person here. the four view
[1:19:22]
went forth with the 555 property. So I
[1:19:26]
mean you know I've heard rumblings but
[1:19:28]
yet now it's here and I don't know
[1:19:30]
whether or not at this point where where
[1:19:34]
we're going with this. So we gave the
[1:19:38]
com So when we purchased the 555
[1:19:40]
property and we started doing the
[1:19:41]
meetings
[1:19:43]
um the community there was a great
[1:19:46]
interest from the community for if we
[1:19:49]
ever had the opportunity to purchase
[1:19:51]
this property that we purchase it to
[1:19:53]
give the city the full 10 acres. I
[1:19:56]
believe it's right at 10 acres all of
[1:19:57]
it. And um we had a meeting where we
[1:20:01]
gave the city manager's office the
[1:20:03]
authorization to pursue purchasing the
[1:20:06]
property. And so what he's done is he's
[1:20:10]
gone out and negotiated a contract. and
[1:20:13]
he has to bring that contract to us to
[1:20:16]
approve it so that he can do the next
[1:20:18]
steps which is to get the appraisals, do
[1:20:22]
the um due diligence on the
[1:20:24]
environmental testing and then it would
[1:20:26]
come back to us with all of that
[1:20:28]
information. I think what Mike is saying
[1:20:30]
is that we received the contract today
[1:20:32]
at like 6:20 signed and so the meeting
[1:20:35]
had already started. he did not have the
[1:20:38]
opportunity to share the contract with
[1:20:40]
everyone so that everyone here could
[1:20:42]
read the contract and see what it says
[1:20:45]
and the purchase price and all of that.
[1:20:47]
That's what he was giving the
[1:20:49]
information on. Um, as far as the
[1:20:52]
purchasing of it, four of us did give
[1:20:55]
authorization to move forward. Um, but I
[1:20:58]
any questions that you have about the
[1:21:00]
property, whether it's the the what
[1:21:03]
we've already purchased or this, we can
[1:21:06]
talk about that today in a meeting or
[1:21:08]
you could ask Mike anything
[1:21:11]
um as far as that goes. But we have I
[1:21:14]
can tell you with certainty that many
[1:21:17]
residents have voiced their opinion on
[1:21:19]
wanting the city to acquire that. It's
[1:21:21]
the entrance to the city and it would
[1:21:23]
give the city full control of the
[1:21:26]
entrance to the city and how it looks.
[1:21:28]
>> Thank you. I mean, I'm not opposed to
[1:21:30]
» Thank you. I mean, I'm not opposed to
[1:21:30]
it, but I'm like I'm trying to come in
[1:21:32]
after the game's already been played.
[1:21:34]
>> No, I understand.
[1:21:35]
» No, I understand.
[1:21:35]
>> So, and and so understanding it uh and
[1:21:38]
» So, and and so understanding it uh and
[1:21:38]
and I mean, you know, Mike and I have
[1:21:40]
had many, many conversations, the two of
[1:21:42]
us coming in new and he's newer than me,
[1:21:45]
but yet um inundating with things. So
[1:21:50]
yes, you know, and and and once again,
[1:21:53]
he wasn't really even privy to 555, so
[1:21:58]
he didn't know any more than I did, you
[1:22:00]
know. So, and and I mean, you know, I'm
[1:22:01]
not opposed to it, but it's just like,
[1:22:04]
you know, oh, here it is.
[1:22:07]
>> Eddie or M Commissioner McGee.
[1:22:09]
» Eddie or M Commissioner McGee.
[1:22:10]
>> Yeah, definitely. I think that adding
[1:22:11]
» Yeah, definitely. I think that adding
[1:22:11]
this property would be idea. We've
[1:22:14]
already talked about adding this
[1:22:15]
property. The only thing that I would
[1:22:17]
like to talk further is is the soil
[1:22:20]
contamination.
[1:22:21]
Um, and basically we can talk about it
[1:22:25]
here. We can talk about it oneon-one. I
[1:22:28]
believe the residents, as the mayor
[1:22:30]
said, are in agreement with this
[1:22:32]
property. That way we have it the whole
[1:22:34]
thing. Um, I just don't know much about
[1:22:38]
when you brought up the soil
[1:22:39]
contamination. Mhm. [clears throat] Um
[1:22:43]
the state of Florida uh D FD uh Florida
[1:22:47]
Department of of U environmental
[1:22:49]
protection, they had a program to remove
[1:22:52]
underground storage tanks. This this
[1:22:54]
site had a 2,000galon underground
[1:22:57]
storage tank and part of the state
[1:23:00]
wanting to come in and aband and wanted
[1:23:02]
those abandoned tanks to be removed. So
[1:23:05]
the state um paid for the removal of the
[1:23:10]
2,000galon underground storage tank and
[1:23:12]
then they also paid for a an assessment
[1:23:17]
afterwards to see what type of
[1:23:20]
contamination was left behind. Part of
[1:23:23]
that was to take soil samples and also
[1:23:26]
take groundwater samples of that area.
[1:23:28]
So there's probably and I I counted them
[1:23:30]
up but I can't remember. I think there's
[1:23:32]
five environmental um monitoring wells
[1:23:35]
out there and over the years they've
[1:23:38]
been sampling those and they do not have
[1:23:40]
any contamination. However, when they
[1:23:42]
did the removal of the tank, there was
[1:23:44]
some leftover um soil contamination.
[1:23:49]
It wasn't to the point, it wasn't in a
[1:23:51]
an amount that the state says, okay,
[1:23:53]
this is an environmental hazard. It's
[1:23:55]
just that there's traces of petroleum in
[1:23:59]
the soil. Um, the only time that that
[1:24:03]
would be of hazard is if we were to tear
[1:24:05]
the building down, pull up the the
[1:24:08]
foundation, uh, and start to try to
[1:24:10]
build something on that. this program
[1:24:13]
that the state has uh if we do go that
[1:24:17]
route ter you know to to remove the
[1:24:20]
building and the foundations the state
[1:24:24]
would come in and for their at their
[1:24:27]
cost remove the top 2 feet of soil um so
[1:24:31]
that's the program that that site is
[1:24:33]
under and it gets transferred over to
[1:24:35]
the city so I see it as a very small
[1:24:38]
risk of that contamination again we have
[1:24:42]
to do our due diligence on the envir
[1:24:44]
environmental site assessment phase one.
[1:24:47]
That phase one will then direct us if we
[1:24:51]
need to do a uh a phase two.
[1:24:57]
» Mike, do we know how much they would be
[1:24:59]
asking for this property at this stage
[1:25:01]
of the game?
[1:25:02]
>> The property uh we offer uh our offer is
[1:25:06]
» The property uh we offer uh our offer is
[1:25:06]
at 3.5 million.
[1:25:11]
To me that's a lot of money.
[1:25:13]
Um I can understand make the properties
[1:25:16]
contiguous and enjoy a whole you know
[1:25:20]
giant nice piece of property. Um, I
[1:25:24]
think the little bit of an upland that
[1:25:26]
they have
[1:25:29]
doesn't justify the the cost and also
[1:25:32]
there's a lot of obviously wetlands and
[1:25:35]
and the bay and all that water really
[1:25:39]
there is generally stagnant because it
[1:25:41]
has no other place to go. So, it kind of
[1:25:44]
goes bacterious. But that's another item
[1:25:48]
for another day. Um,
[1:25:51]
you know, I don't know what the board
[1:25:53]
thinks, but I I'm not going to support
[1:25:56]
this.
[1:25:57]
>> Mayor, if I if I could without sounding
[1:25:59]
» Mayor, if I if I could without sounding
[1:25:59]
too much like I'm getting up on a soap
[1:26:01]
box, but we're on the precipice of
[1:26:03]
making a historical
[1:26:06]
uh change and for the better in Madira
[1:26:08]
Beach. I I think we should wait and have
[1:26:11]
the opportunity to look at the contract.
[1:26:13]
Absolutely. I think we should discuss
[1:26:15]
it. I don't know how much time we have
[1:26:16]
since it's been uh signed before we can
[1:26:19]
get mov forward. But all the first step
[1:26:22]
is to get that testing done to phase
[1:26:24]
one.
[1:26:25]
>> We can't do that. We cannot do that. So
[1:26:28]
» We can't do that. We cannot do that. So
[1:26:28]
the way it works is we need to have we
[1:26:31]
need to all review the contract, have a
[1:26:33]
meeting, approve the contract, and once
[1:26:35]
we approve the contract, then the
[1:26:38]
testing can be done.
[1:26:40]
>> I guess that's what I meant. That's what
[1:26:41]
» I guess that's what I meant. That's what
[1:26:41]
I meant. I just I Yes, there's going to
[1:26:43]
be a lot of details. It's a lot of money
[1:26:45]
and it's a lot of land.
[1:26:48]
But if we were to do this, this would
[1:26:52]
this would be a gamecher for our city.
[1:26:54]
And and I think it would be a positive
[1:26:56]
game changer. The fact that we could use
[1:26:59]
the entire three sides for for for
[1:27:02]
revenue, for for docks, for income, for
[1:27:06]
whatever we want, and the fact that we
[1:27:07]
couldn't if we didn't own it. Uh all of
[1:27:10]
that. So I not only in favor I'm
[1:27:13]
strongly in favor of moving forward but
[1:27:15]
after we look at that contract
[1:27:18]
>> could um maybe could or rec department
[1:27:21]
» could um maybe could or rec department
[1:27:21]
do an assessment as far as how much
[1:27:23]
money we can bring maybe in the next 10
[1:27:26]
years would that be possible too
[1:27:28]
>> I feel like I've already seen some of
[1:27:30]
» I feel like I've already seen some of
[1:27:30]
those numbers just with two sides of it
[1:27:32]
>> right
[1:27:33]
» right
[1:27:33]
>> that was presented at one of our
[1:27:35]
» that was presented at one of our
[1:27:35]
workshops and uh just by the way I meant
[1:27:37]
to say earlier at I went to all of the
[1:27:39]
workshops we had with and there were
[1:27:41]
there were no push back right from any
[1:27:43]
residents, right? They were all
[1:27:45]
positive. Yes. Let's get this done.
[1:27:46]
>> The community as a whole was very
[1:27:48]
» The community as a whole was very
[1:27:48]
positive in the purchase of the of the
[1:27:51]
555 property and were very supportive of
[1:27:54]
the city pursuing this purchase. Um so I
[1:27:57]
think the conversation is when can we
[1:27:59]
have a meeting and um
[1:28:05]
is everybody available on the 24th of
[1:28:07]
August?
[1:28:10]
I'm not
[1:28:11]
>> uh depending on the time I'm either free
[1:28:14]
» uh depending on the time I'm either free
[1:28:14]
in the morning or I'm free after 300
[1:28:16]
p.m.
[1:28:21]
» And there's and it's burger week.
[1:28:24]
>> Well, we can all leave here and go get a
[1:28:25]
» Well, we can all leave here and go get a
[1:28:25]
burger.
[1:28:28]
>> Can we order in a burger?
[1:28:30]
» Can we order in a burger?
[1:28:30]
>> I'm good.
[1:28:31]
» I'm good.
[1:28:31]
>> I'm good. The 24th all day.
[1:28:35]
» I'm good. The 24th all day.
[1:28:35]
>> Commissioner McGee go.
[1:28:37]
» Commissioner McGee go.
[1:28:37]
>> I'm good.
[1:28:37]
» I'm good.
[1:28:37]
>> You good?
[1:28:38]
» You good?
[1:28:38]
>> Yeah. So
[1:28:41]
» Yeah. So
[1:28:41]
>> funny
[1:28:42]
» funny
[1:28:42]
>> he they said good you said after 3:00
[1:28:45]
» he they said good you said after 3:00
[1:28:45]
>> either after 3 or before noon
[1:28:47]
» either after 3 or before noon
[1:28:47]
>> tr cannot be here for it could some
[1:28:50]
» tr cannot be here for it could some
[1:28:50]
>> I would remind you also you have code
[1:28:51]
» I would remind you also you have code
[1:28:51]
enforcement special master hearing
[1:28:53]
starting at noon and there is at least
[1:28:55]
23 cases that are I think 23 close to it
[1:29:00]
cases are going to be heard I don't know
[1:29:01]
how long that meeting is going to go um
[1:29:03]
so we do those in this chamber so it it
[1:29:08]
should not be early in the afternoon and
[1:29:10]
I'm double booked on the 24th
[1:29:13]
and I'm not sure if I can get a lawyer
[1:29:15]
here because my backup is covering
[1:29:17]
another meeting that I'm double booked
[1:29:18]
on.
[1:29:22]
Um,
[1:29:25]
we are all here on the 21st.
[1:29:28]
I don't know if that would work for
[1:29:30]
strategic planning until 4 o'clock
[1:29:33]
>> after that.
[1:29:38]
» Well, that would work except I think
[1:29:40]
we're serving burgers that night.
[1:29:42]
>> No, we're serving No,
[1:29:44]
» No, we're serving No,
[1:29:44]
>> we're serving burgers on the 26th at
[1:29:47]
» we're serving burgers on the 26th at
[1:29:47]
noon.
[1:29:48]
>> Okay. Sorry.
[1:29:50]
» Okay. Sorry.
[1:29:50]
So it is so the 21st is the kickoff to
[1:29:54]
um burger week.
[1:29:58]
» So burgers and after the strategic
[1:30:01]
planning
[1:30:02]
>> strategic planning then then a special
[1:30:05]
» strategic planning then then a special
[1:30:05]
meeting and then village Friday.
[1:30:09]
I I don't know. I'm just I'm asking I'm
[1:30:11]
verbalizing it.
[1:30:12]
>> I'm I'm fine with that. It'll be a long
[1:30:14]
» I'm I'm fine with that. It'll be a long
[1:30:14]
day, but we'll all be here
[1:30:17]
>> on the 21st.
[1:30:19]
» on the 21st.
[1:30:19]
>> So, we're thinking the 21st at what?
[1:30:22]
» So, we're thinking the 21st at what?
[1:30:22]
Five o'clock. That's a Friday.
[1:30:25]
>> Or or when we're done.
[1:30:27]
» Or or when we're done.
[1:30:27]
>> Yeah. Right after that.
[1:30:28]
» Yeah. Right after that.
[1:30:28]
>> No, you have We've got a sketch. We have
[1:30:30]
» No, you have We've got a sketch. We have
[1:30:30]
to advertise it. So,
[1:30:31]
>> Okay. What about Thursday the 20th where
[1:30:35]
» Okay. What about Thursday the 20th where
[1:30:35]
you don't have another commitment?
[1:30:38]
>> Um,
[1:30:40]
» Um,
[1:30:40]
>> I'm free in the afternoon.
[1:30:44]
I'm good.
[1:30:45]
>> So, I can do in the afternoon.
[1:30:50]
» Who's [snorts] on vacation?
[1:30:50]
>> Sounds like our AV guy may be on
[1:30:52]
» Sounds like our AV guy may be on
[1:30:52]
vacation.
[1:30:53]
>> That's fine. We'll we'll work that out.
[1:30:55]
» That's fine. We'll we'll work that out.
[1:30:55]
>> So, 5:00 on the 20
[1:30:58]
» So, 5:00 on the 20
[1:30:58]
>> 20th
[1:31:00]
» 20th
[1:31:00]
>> 20th.
[1:31:00]
» 20th.
[1:31:00]
>> Yep.
[1:31:01]
» Yep.
[1:31:01]
>> That works for me.
[1:31:01]
» That works for me.
[1:31:01]
>> 5:00 on the 20th. Commissioners.
[1:31:04]
» 5:00 on the 20th. Commissioners.
[1:31:04]
>> Yes, that's
[1:31:06]
» Yes, that's
[1:31:06]
>> city attorney.
[1:31:08]
» city attorney.
[1:31:08]
>> Okay.
[1:31:17]
Okay.
[1:31:21]
Then next on the agenda is agenda
[1:31:23]
setting. And uh Commissioner McGee, you
[1:31:26]
have something you'd like to
[1:31:28]
>> Yeah. I would just like to add I've had
[1:31:29]
» Yeah. I would just like to add I've had
[1:31:29]
some residents reach out to me on 144th
[1:31:33]
and 145th. And as you know, Marcy,
[1:31:36]
you've taken drives around that that
[1:31:38]
horseshoe. um [clears throat] 145th, you
[1:31:41]
know, uh I believe there's three or four
[1:31:45]
pools that have not been kept up and uh
[1:31:49]
they've reached out to me and a lot of
[1:31:51]
they have children on 144th and they
[1:31:54]
they don't want them to play outside
[1:31:56]
because of the mosquitoes that are just
[1:31:58]
breeding rampantly over there. So maybe
[1:32:00]
we can add that we can uh get together
[1:32:02]
and uh see if we can do something about
[1:32:04]
that.
[1:32:08]
anything additional that anyone else
[1:32:10]
would like to see on the agenda?
[1:32:12]
>> Madame Mayor, um
[1:32:14]
» Madame Mayor, um
[1:32:14]
I have the um plaque, the uh the key to
[1:32:19]
the city plaque
[1:32:22]
and um which we're going to discuss in a
[1:32:25]
few minutes. So, if we're trying to set
[1:32:27]
an agenda, then we probably need to let
[1:32:30]
the recipients
[1:32:32]
uh be present.
[1:32:36]
Um, so the next meeting that we have
[1:32:38]
that we're setting an agenda for will be
[1:32:39]
a workshop.
[1:32:41]
Do you want to present them at a
[1:32:43]
workshop or in a regular meeting? Yeah,
[1:32:44]
regular meeting. Yeah,
[1:32:47]
>> I agree. For the next
[1:32:49]
» I agree. For the next
[1:32:49]
>> regular meeting.
[1:32:50]
» regular meeting.
[1:32:50]
>> Regular meeting.
[1:32:56]
» Do we have any public comment?
[1:33:00]
Then next on the agenda is reports and
[1:33:02]
correspondence. Board of Commissioners
[1:33:04]
reports and correspondence and I think
[1:33:06]
commissioner is going to present. You
[1:33:08]
want to present this to the commission?
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>> Um yes, I would love to have the
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» Um yes, I would love to have the
[1:33:13]
commission take a look at this uh plaque
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for the key to the city.
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>> Um
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» Um
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>> and it'll have it would have this here
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» and it'll have it would have this here
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>> with Poppy on it.
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» with Poppy on it.
[1:33:26]
>> And I would like to get some advice as
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» And I would like to get some advice as
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far as you know the notation that goes
[1:33:31]
on that plaque. Oh,
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>> nice. Very good.
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» nice. Very good.
[1:33:36]
>> I'd like to if you're asking for help, I
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» I'd like to if you're asking for help, I
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I'd give it some thought and send it to
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you.
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>> Would you?
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» Would you?
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>> Yeah, sure.
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» Yeah, sure.
[1:33:42]
>> So, we could have that on our workshop.
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» So, we could have that on our workshop.
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>> And is So, just to be clear, is this a
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» And is So, just to be clear, is this a
[1:33:46]
plaque that goes to the entity and stays
[1:33:50]
with them? Or is that a plaque that has
[1:33:53]
a list of people that get it from year
[1:33:55]
to year?
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>> Goes to them and stay.
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» Goes to them and stay.
[1:33:57]
>> So, the next time we give a key to the
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» So, the next time we give a key to the
[1:33:59]
city, it'll be another plaque just like
[1:34:01]
this. We'll have two plaques because
[1:34:03]
we're going to give two keys to two
[1:34:06]
folks that we have discussed previously.
[1:34:08]
>> Okay. Yeah. But from the same entity.
[1:34:10]
» Okay. Yeah. But from the same entity.
[1:34:10]
>> Yes.
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» Yes.
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>> Yeah. So I'm just asking because it'll
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» Yeah. So I'm just asking because it'll
[1:34:13]
make a difference on the wording should
[1:34:14]
say. So this is specific to that entity
[1:34:17]
and those people. So when we approved
[1:34:20]
this plaque, so when this came to us, um
[1:34:23]
we gave it to the commissioner go to go
[1:34:25]
out and work with the city clerk's
[1:34:27]
office to come up with a a plaque and a
[1:34:30]
key in the presentation way. This will
[1:34:32]
now be the way we present any key to the
[1:34:34]
city that we give moving forward.
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>> Yes.
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» Yes.
[1:34:37]
>> So this will be will this would
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» So this will be will this would
[1:34:40]
>> nice. Yeah,
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» nice. Yeah,
[1:34:41]
>> it looks nice.
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» it looks nice.
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>> Very nice.
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» Very nice.
[1:34:44]
>> Thank you. Thanks for that work,
[1:34:45]
» Thank you. Thanks for that work,
[1:34:45]
Commissioner. Are we going to have
[1:34:47]
anything here that shows who we gave
[1:34:50]
keys to?
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>> I mean, you know,
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» I mean, you know,
[1:34:53]
>> so the city has been giving keys for
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» so the city has been giving keys for
[1:34:56]
many years and that's never been done.
[1:34:59]
I'm sure that we could put something up
[1:35:01]
that said who got them, but there have
[1:35:03]
been a lot of keys over the years given.
[1:35:06]
>> It'd be nice. That's a good idea to
[1:35:08]
» It'd be nice. That's a good idea to
[1:35:08]
create history.
[1:35:09]
>> Yeah. I mean, because like they're
[1:35:11]
» Yeah. I mean, because like they're
[1:35:11]
taking this. So, and then and then did
[1:35:14]
we decide is it a year or how often are
[1:35:17]
we giving away the keys?
[1:35:21]
So, a commissioner gets to nominate
[1:35:23]
someone that they believe deserves the
[1:35:26]
key to the city. And we had quite a bit
[1:35:28]
of what I would call robust conversation
[1:35:31]
in um not just giving the key to anyone.
[1:35:34]
So I think in the past that I've learned
[1:35:38]
there were keys given
[1:35:40]
not particular they were given for lots
[1:35:42]
of different reasons and this commission
[1:35:46]
tended to lean towards giving a key to
[1:35:48]
someone that was exceptionally doing
[1:35:51]
something right. Not just handing a key
[1:35:53]
to everybody but it being
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>> but so like this is one of the two keys
[1:35:59]
» but so like this is one of the two keys
[1:35:59]
or two keys that we're giving out for
[1:36:01]
2026.
[1:36:03]
This is the highest honor that
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>> right I mean but like is and and I'm
[1:36:07]
» right I mean but like is and and I'm
[1:36:07]
trying not to
[1:36:09]
>> degrade it you know so like you're just
[1:36:12]
» degrade it you know so like you're just
[1:36:12]
giving keys away keys away so we'll be
[1:36:15]
so like this is the two keys for 2026
[1:36:18]
are given away
[1:36:20]
>> so I I that commissioner um Dylan
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» so I I that commissioner um Dylan
[1:36:24]
bringing that up I think that because
[1:36:26]
currently there are only four items on
[1:36:28]
our agenda coming up for the workshop I
[1:36:31]
think it would be mindful to have a
[1:36:33]
discussion about the ordinances that we
[1:36:35]
have in place currently for keys, coins,
[1:36:39]
awards, those sorts of things. And that
[1:36:41]
will help us that will propel us also
[1:36:44]
into
[1:36:46]
um the anniversary of the city because
[1:36:50]
we're going to be doing awards for that,
[1:36:51]
too. So, if we could add that, then we
[1:36:53]
could have a really good conversation
[1:36:54]
about that. And because this is a
[1:36:57]
different commission um and we've
[1:36:59]
learned other ordinances that existed
[1:37:01]
that we weren't necessarily aware of. So
[1:37:04]
we can do that. I think that would make
[1:37:05]
for a great conversation.
[1:37:08]
>> If I may, um as we all know, August is a
[1:37:12]
» If I may, um as we all know, August is a
[1:37:12]
Purple Heart month
[1:37:14]
and um obviously right now it's kind of
[1:37:17]
late, but maybe we should set this up
[1:37:19]
from next year on to recognize Purple
[1:37:22]
Heart
[1:37:23]
>> with the American Legion right now.
[1:37:25]
» with the American Legion right now.
[1:37:25]
Yes. But
[1:37:26]
>> yeah, Eddie Eddie took the lead on
[1:37:27]
» yeah, Eddie Eddie took the lead on
[1:37:28]
working on Purple Heart.
[1:37:29]
>> Yes. No, I understand that. But as far
[1:37:31]
» Yes. No, I understand that. But as far
[1:37:31]
as like some sort of proclamation here
[1:37:33]
that we recognize this month as a Purple
[1:37:36]
Heart heart month.
[1:37:38]
>> Yeah.
[1:37:38]
» Yeah.
[1:37:38]
>> It would be just nice to
[1:37:41]
» It would be just nice to
[1:37:41]
>> Well, we can do that coincide that with
[1:37:43]
» Well, we can do that coincide that with
[1:37:43]
the resident of Madira Beach that
[1:37:46]
receives the recognition for the Purple
[1:37:49]
Heart.
[1:37:49]
>> Okay.
[1:37:50]
» Okay.
[1:37:50]
>> So, Commissioner, if you wanted to, we
[1:37:53]
» So, Commissioner, if you wanted to, we
[1:37:53]
can do that. We could do a proclamation
[1:37:55]
at our BOC workshop on the 26th. It
[1:37:59]
would be the end of the month, but we
[1:38:00]
could still do that if you want to.
[1:38:01]
>> Okay. I think that would be lovely if we
[1:38:03]
» Okay. I think that would be lovely if we
[1:38:03]
could do that.
[1:38:04]
>> I think the city clerk can prepare that.
[1:38:07]
» I think the city clerk can prepare that.
[1:38:07]
>> Yes.
[1:38:08]
» Yes.
[1:38:08]
>> I get send me all the information on it.
[1:38:10]
» I get send me all the information on it.
[1:38:10]
I can put something together.
[1:38:12]
One other item I wanted to bring up and
[1:38:15]
and I was talking to our city clerk as
[1:38:18]
far as um
[1:38:20]
um
[1:38:24]
as far as getting a raise and I I don't
[1:38:27]
think we have given her a raise since uh
[1:38:30]
her last evaluation. U am I correct? Um,
[1:38:34]
I've got the 3% over to board of the
[1:38:37]
same and we were supposed to get a
[1:38:39]
valuation every October and of course
[1:38:42]
it's late coming and we have another one
[1:38:44]
this coming October and it the
[1:38:46]
commission approved in the budget which
[1:38:49]
I was included for the up to 3%
[1:38:51]
depending on the numbers and
[1:38:55]
>> but but but my point right now is you
[1:38:57]
» but but but my point right now is you
[1:38:57]
you did not get a raise from last
[1:38:59]
October, right? So, it's
[1:39:02]
>> not the mayor, not the um the merit as
[1:39:07]
» not the mayor, not the um the merit as
[1:39:07]
the same as the other employees.
[1:39:09]
>> So,
[1:39:10]
» So,
[1:39:10]
>> she got the cola raise, not the merit
[1:39:11]
» she got the cola raise, not the merit
[1:39:11]
raise.
[1:39:12]
>> Right.
[1:39:13]
» Right.
[1:39:13]
>> Right.
[1:39:15]
» Right.
[1:39:15]
Anyhow, just wanted to bring that up.
[1:39:16]
>> Okay.
[1:39:17]
» Okay.
[1:39:17]
>> Yes, definitely. And that was in the
[1:39:18]
» Yes, definitely. And that was in the
[1:39:18]
budget, too, was it?
[1:39:19]
>> Yes.
[1:39:21]
» Yes.
[1:39:21]
>> And it was due October 2025.
[1:39:26]
» Anything additional?
[1:39:29]
Next on the agenda is the 2026 meeting
[1:39:31]
report. And I think that's just our
[1:39:34]
regular report that Clara provides for
[1:39:36]
us.
[1:39:38]
Any questions or comments on that?
[1:39:42]
Next on the agenda is city attorney.
[1:39:45]
>> Thank you, mayor. I don't really have
[1:39:46]
» Thank you, mayor. I don't really have
[1:39:46]
anything to add. I'd be happy to answer
[1:39:48]
any questions if anybody has any.
[1:39:50]
>> Any questions for the city attorney?
[1:39:53]
» Any questions for the city attorney?
[1:39:54]
>> Thank you.
[1:39:54]
» Thank you.
[1:39:54]
>> We feel secure having you here, Tom.
[1:39:56]
» We feel secure having you here, Tom.
[1:39:56]
>> Appreciate that.
[1:39:58]
» Appreciate that.
[1:39:58]
And next on the agenda is the city
[1:40:00]
clerk.
[1:40:03]
>> Um we've been doing a the city clerk's
[1:40:06]
» Um we've been doing a the city clerk's
[1:40:06]
office has been doing a complete scan
[1:40:09]
project and so we'll soon not have any
[1:40:13]
uh records stored at off-site storage
[1:40:16]
trying to get everything in the laser
[1:40:18]
fish. And the more we can get in there
[1:40:21]
the better for the community. and it's
[1:40:24]
like looking on your computer, you know,
[1:40:26]
your phone for information. So, we're
[1:40:28]
hoping that our public portal will turn
[1:40:30]
into that one day. And um we're also
[1:40:34]
getting ready to do a ready scan and u
[1:40:37]
the company is waiting on access to all
[1:40:40]
the share drives and stuff and it's
[1:40:42]
going to tell us what documents we have
[1:40:45]
and that's not in laser fish and
[1:40:47]
everything over the board. Um what our
[1:40:51]
final one is and all. So we can capture
[1:40:54]
all our documents that's somewhere
[1:40:56]
whether in email or um in these shared
[1:40:59]
drives and all we can get those the
[1:41:01]
final of those documents inside laser
[1:41:04]
fish for the public portal and which is
[1:41:07]
to the commission as well to look. So I
[1:41:09]
I'm really looking forward to that. Uh
[1:41:12]
the last piece to that ready scan is the
[1:41:15]
city manager and it given the um
[1:41:21]
the access to those share drives and
[1:41:23]
everything and they're ready to move
[1:41:25]
forward. And so we that should be done
[1:41:28]
this within probably a week and then we
[1:41:31]
get started from there. And so we're
[1:41:34]
really excited about it.
[1:41:37]
>> That's nice. Yeah.
[1:41:39]
» That's nice. Yeah.
[1:41:39]
>> Thank you, Clara.
[1:41:40]
» Thank you, Clara.
[1:41:40]
>> You're welcome. clear up a lot of space.
[1:41:42]
» You're welcome. clear up a lot of space.
[1:41:42]
>> Next on the agenda is the city manager.
[1:41:45]
» Next on the agenda is the city manager.
[1:41:45]
>> Uh I'd like to have Max come up and give
[1:41:48]
» Uh I'd like to have Max come up and give
[1:41:48]
you an update on the burger week and uh
[1:41:52]
I think a progress report on the seafood
[1:41:56]
fest and then I've got a few other items
[1:41:57]
I'd like to to catch you up on.
[1:42:08]
All right, mayor, board of
[1:42:10]
commissioners, I'm going to update you
[1:42:10]
kind of on everything that's going on
[1:42:12]
down at the recreation center um along
[1:42:15]
with special events. So, for athletics
[1:42:17]
over the summer, just so you are aware,
[1:42:19]
um we did run a specialty summer uh
[1:42:22]
basketball and volleyball specialty camp
[1:42:24]
um in conjunction with OciOla High
[1:42:26]
School, we utilize their indoor gym with
[1:42:28]
our joint use agreement. We had over 100
[1:42:30]
kids participate in that uh that
[1:42:32]
specialty camp program. It's the first
[1:42:33]
year we've done this. So, um we're
[1:42:35]
really looking at expanding our athletic
[1:42:37]
programming uh in that aspect. So, um
[1:42:40]
right now we have fall youth soccer. Uh
[1:42:43]
registration is open. Um and then we're
[1:42:47]
also planning and looking forward at our
[1:42:49]
our winter programming. Um last year we
[1:42:51]
instituted the the volleyball the indoor
[1:42:54]
volleyball uh co-ed uh big big big hit.
[1:42:57]
So, we're looking to expand that even
[1:42:59]
more uh this coming uh winter spring
[1:43:03]
season. Um senior programming. So, our
[1:43:05]
Madira Beach Social Club is still on its
[1:43:07]
summer break. Um staff, we are
[1:43:09]
finalizing the schedule and programming
[1:43:11]
for the upcoming season. Um which our
[1:43:14]
first uh get together for the season
[1:43:16]
takes place September 14th.
[1:43:19]
Uh child care, we just recently wrapped
[1:43:21]
up another successful summer camp
[1:43:22]
serving approximately 70 children each
[1:43:25]
day. Um that program included daily
[1:43:27]
field trips and larger weekly trips uh
[1:43:30]
to places like the zoo, the aquarium,
[1:43:32]
educational outings. Um our after school
[1:43:35]
program uh is full for this season. So
[1:43:37]
we are operating on a wait list. That
[1:43:38]
program um it's limited by uh the space
[1:43:42]
of our facility. We can only legally
[1:43:44]
have so many children um in the rec
[1:43:47]
center uh for after school care. So we
[1:43:49]
are full. We have a wait list. Uh we are
[1:43:51]
accepting uh for that. Um, special
[1:43:54]
events. So, we are in the final planning
[1:43:56]
stages for the 3rd annual Madiraa Beach
[1:43:58]
Burger Week. Uh, that's taking place
[1:44:00]
August 21st through the 30th, as you all
[1:44:02]
know. Uh, 18 restaurants participating.
[1:44:06]
Um,
[1:44:08]
we have the burger bus taking place
[1:44:09]
August 22nd. So, tickets are on sale for
[1:44:12]
the burger bus if you are interested. We
[1:44:14]
are going to three different
[1:44:14]
restaurants.
[1:44:16]
um on the bus is a tour of all different
[1:44:20]
burger love and community fun. So, uh
[1:44:24]
that should be a really good time. Um
[1:44:26]
and then
[1:44:29]
to back up even more, Village Friday is
[1:44:31]
our burger week kickoff party as you all
[1:44:32]
know. Um that'll start at 6:00 down at
[1:44:35]
John's Pass featuring live music from
[1:44:36]
the Crowns. Um we'll be down there
[1:44:38]
handing out Burger Week passports. We
[1:44:40]
have some Burger Week giveaway promo
[1:44:41]
items. Um, we also have some Burger Week
[1:44:44]
merchandise that is for sale in the city
[1:44:46]
store. We will also have it down there
[1:44:48]
at Village Friday for sale as well. And
[1:44:51]
then we do also have Burger with the
[1:44:53]
Board on August 26th at the Cambria
[1:44:55]
Hotel. That's taking place from 12 to 2.
[1:44:58]
That's where you guys are going to serve
[1:45:00]
your burgers. And it's kind of a
[1:45:02]
spin-off of Conversations with the
[1:45:03]
mayor, but we're going to have a burger
[1:45:05]
with the board. So, really excited about
[1:45:07]
that. Um,
[1:45:10]
next big event we have coming up for
[1:45:11]
recreation wise is uh the 45th annual
[1:45:14]
John Best Seafood Festival. Um, so we're
[1:45:18]
we're in crunch time for that planning.
[1:45:21]
Uh, that's going to be the 23rd, 24th,
[1:45:24]
and 25th. Uh, vendor applications are
[1:45:26]
still open through the end of August.
[1:45:29]
Um, those can be found on johnspass
[1:45:31]
seafoodfest.net.
[1:45:33]
Um we are currently in the process of uh
[1:45:35]
booking entertainment for the three
[1:45:36]
stages. Um and we're also working on um
[1:45:41]
any sponsors and securing those last
[1:45:43]
minute partnerships. Um we have been
[1:45:45]
working on a partnership with iHeart
[1:45:47]
Media and JJ Taylor for the marketing of
[1:45:49]
the festival. So hopefully that pans out
[1:45:51]
well. Um, overall recreation is coming
[1:45:54]
off of a very busy summer and looking
[1:45:56]
forward to a strong uh fall event and
[1:45:58]
programming schedule and we're excited
[1:46:00]
about the upcoming events and the
[1:46:02]
opportunities to provide our residents,
[1:46:04]
visitors, and local businesses here in
[1:46:05]
Madera Beach.
[1:46:07]
>> Thank you, Max. That's awesome.
[1:46:09]
» Thank you, Max. That's awesome.
[1:46:09]
>> Any questions? We're good.
[1:46:10]
» Any questions? We're good.
[1:46:10]
>> Do we have any vegetarian burgers?
[1:46:13]
» Do we have any vegetarian burgers?
[1:46:13]
>> I have uh I have a shrimp burger.
[1:46:16]
» I have uh I have a shrimp burger.
[1:46:16]
>> Close.
[1:46:17]
» Close.
[1:46:17]
>> It's close.
[1:46:18]
» It's close.
[1:46:18]
>> Pescatarian.
[1:46:19]
» Pescatarian.
[1:46:19]
>> Pescatarian. Okay.
[1:46:22]
» Pescatarian. Okay.
[1:46:22]
I will uh I'll work on that though. All
[1:46:23]
right. Thank you.
[1:46:27]
» City manager,
[1:46:30]
» uh just a reminder, strategic planning
[1:46:34]
uh is August 21st, which is next Friday.
[1:46:38]
Um John's Pass dredging project has been
[1:46:41]
completed. Um and we are in contact with
[1:46:46]
uh Florida Department of Transportation
[1:46:48]
to figure out if they are completed with
[1:46:50]
their removal of debris. Um it does not
[1:46:54]
look like it is, but they may be
[1:46:56]
completed. So we may have to go back
[1:46:58]
into conversations with them on removing
[1:47:01]
more. The sand is already coming back as
[1:47:04]
you know. Um the snack shack
[1:47:06]
restoration. Um right now we're working
[1:47:10]
on the historic um des um designation.
[1:47:15]
Uh we're going to try to do a few things
[1:47:18]
in parallel to get the design the white
[1:47:23]
uh the white box design uh completed as
[1:47:26]
we're going through the historic
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designation.
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Um,
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area three, uh, drainage improvement. I
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believe Megan's going to come up and
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talk about that real quick. Thank you
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[snorts]
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» and Kitty Park.
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>> Good evening again, mayor and
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» Good evening again, mayor and
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commission. Um, area 3, they've finished
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the milling today. So, all of the roads
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have been mil. Um we will be doing our
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walkthrough tomorrow to create the final
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punch list um for items that need to
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still be completed. So um but the
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asphalt is down and it looks fantastic.
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And Tom and Kitty Stewart Park, we are
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working on finalizing the foundation
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plan for the restroom. The restroom is
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still in design. Not in design, I'm
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sorry. Production drawings have been
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approved. They're waiting for state
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stamp approval. I believe Mercy was the
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conversation we had last week.
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>> I believe that's correct.
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» I believe that's correct.
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>> Yes. So, it's it's it's in progress, but
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» Yes. So, it's it's it's in progress, but
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because it's coming from another state,
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it does have to make sure that the
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Florida state approval it's stamped and
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receives the FEMA approval and on all of
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our regulations. Um, so that is still in
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the works. We do, and you all have
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already approved the not to exceed with
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Keystone for the um not to exceed
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$500,000 for the park restoration. So we
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have been in talks with them about the
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foundation plan and they are we don't
[1:48:56]
have the site plan finalized yet. So we
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haven't been able to receive a proposal
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from them but we have been actively
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working with them so they are aware. Um
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I am working on the landscaping plan
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that you all asked to receive. I have
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been a out of town um traveling a little
[1:49:15]
bit these days and I'm still working on
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that. So I will have that for you for
[1:49:18]
the workshop meeting.
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And then just an update on the paving.
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Um you all received a not so great news
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email from me yesterday regarding John's
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Pass Village.
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Um that is a unfortunate but the
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contractor is aware and they are going
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to fix um tomorrow we will be visiting
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every single one of the shops. Has it
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have has everyone received the email
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from me? Okay. So the issue is is the
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striping was incorrect. Um the only way
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for us to actually receive what we paid
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for is to mill and to repave those
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places or otherwise it would just be
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subpar and I'm not going to accept
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subpar. So um it will be we will mill
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Sunday night um one side of the road
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pave Monday morning and then the the
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next Monday night we will mill the other
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side pave Tuesday morning and we will
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stripe it. And the issue was is the
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angled parking. The striper
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did not double check his work. So it did
[1:50:24]
not meet the minimum standards and we
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cannot accept that. And then Baypoint
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has been completed as well. So that has
[1:50:30]
all been mil overlaid. So projects are
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moving right along.
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>> Thank you, Megan. Megan, I I have one
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» Thank you, Megan. Megan, I I have one
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question. Um the at Kitty Park the we
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call it a seaw wall, right? Even though
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>> a sand wall, seaw wall.
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» a sand wall, seaw wall.
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>> Yeah. So the cap is is that wood?
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» Yeah. So the cap is is that wood?
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>> It's recycled [clears throat] plastic.
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» It's recycled [clears throat] plastic.
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Yes.
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>> So it is going to survive the moisture
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» So it is going to survive the moisture
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and Yes, sir. heat and everything.
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>> That is what is on all of the docks that
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» That is what is on all of the docks that
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we have. That is also the stairs that
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are at Archbald bathrooms. That is what
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all of that is made out of.
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>> I see. Okay. Thank you.
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» I see. Okay. Thank you.
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>> You're welcome.
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» You're welcome.
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I'd make a statement that well of course
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I was just out there the other day
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but what you have in that first island
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as you come in is gorgeous. I mean it is
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all drought resistant.
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>> I would love to take that but that was
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» I would love to take that but that was
[1:51:23]
not us. Catties actually planted that.
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Um so we with your we can leave that in.
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Um those are not typical plants that I
[1:51:33]
would plant. the grasses um get a little
[1:51:35]
bit too tall. So, they are over that 36
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in. So, they're over in the sight
[1:51:40]
triangle. Plus, those grasses get they
[1:51:44]
are pretty at first, but they are kind
[1:51:45]
of a bear to maintain and they collect a
[1:51:48]
lot of garbage. And then whenever you
[1:51:49]
have to trim them down, I don't know if
[1:51:51]
anybody's seen, but you have to cut them
[1:51:53]
almost like a buzz cut. And in my
[1:51:57]
professional opinion, they are not very
[1:51:59]
pretty. Well, like I say, I I what
[1:52:02]
you've done with the rest of the city is
[1:52:04]
perfect. Very well done, and I'm I'm
[1:52:07]
looking forward to what your
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recommendation is.
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>> Thank you.
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» Thank you.
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>> That's easiest to maintain and take care
[1:52:14]
» That's easiest to maintain and take care
[1:52:14]
of and drought resistant.
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>> We love that.
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» We love that.
[1:52:18]
>> Thank you.
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» Thank you.
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>> Thank you, Megan. [clears throat]
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» Thank you, Megan. [clears throat]
[1:52:22]
Um this week we started our interview
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process for the uh for the new RC
[1:52:28]
department head. Uh we are hoping to
[1:52:32]
have that selection by Friday or early
[1:52:35]
next week and then start the
[1:52:38]
negotiations to have that uh person come
[1:52:41]
on in within a couple of weeks.
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>> Okay.
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» Okay.
[1:52:47]
>> Awesome.
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» Awesome.
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>> That's all.
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» That's all.
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>> Thank you very much. Next on the agenda
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» Thank you very much. Next on the agenda
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is respond to public comment. We only
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had one public comment and it was a
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thank you. So, thank you Mr. Bellows for
[1:52:58]
coming and giving a compliment to staff.
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They surely do deserve it.
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And it is 7:52.
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We are adjourned.