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And that should make everything go.
>> And
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» yeah,
>> I could take the Whenever you're ready
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to start, I will bring over the
applicant.
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» Thank you.
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our position.
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» Are you now getting started?
>> Yep.
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» Okay.
Okay. So, uh welcome back. Room is
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empty. I understand there are people.
Um my name is William.
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co-chair
of community committee community
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appearance
field to my right and associated my
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left.
Uh and what we try to do is help steer
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people who may or may need it in some
cases may not need it or may not think
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they need it uh towards some better
looking projects. So first thing uh
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let's consider that the call to order
and going right to applications. The
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first one is 128 Samson Rock Drive
which is a cycling application
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unmanned redemption center. So I guess
I'm kind of curious to know what that
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is.
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» Sure. Hi. Uh good evening. Thanks for
having me uh as a panelist this evening.
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I'm happy to discuss the Clink program.
Um so uh um Kelly Hubby for the record
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uh director of brand delivery for Clink.
We have been operating in the state of
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Maine for over 20 years. We've been
operating in New York State for 10. Um
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and the premise of our program is to
simplify the traditional redemption
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experience for the consumer. um allowing
an additional modality to the
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traditional reverse vending machine or
um going to a a traditional bottle
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redemption center. So, our program
focuses on a bagdrop uh presentation
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whereby the consumer is able to um
redeem all of their containers that
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they've purchased at any retailer in the
state. It's not exclusivized to those
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that were purchased at Stop and Shop. Uh
we accept any container that was covered
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under the Connecticut state bottle bill.
Glass, plastic, aluminum. There's no
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need to sort, no need to count.
Everything goes in one um standard
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13gallon drawstring kitchen trash bag.
Uh we do sell clink bags at cost, which
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are the most affordable trash bags, but
we do allow the consumer to bring their
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own 13gallon kitchen trash bag if they
so choose.
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Um the consumer creates an account. They
can either do that uh via an app, they
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can do it via the web. Um they can get a
physical card if they don't have
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technical prowess or they just don't
like to do things on the phone. Uh or
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for folks that are maybe not as
technologically savvy, um you can do a
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physical card right inside the store.
You can sign yourself up and the store
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personnel are happy to assist with that.
You can also call our customer service
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team and we can mail you a card and set
you up that way. Um, so there's a number
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of ways to simplify the experience of
signing up. Um, thereafter, the consumer
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simply prints their bag tags at a kiosk
inside any of the live stores that we're
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currently in. Um, as I said, we're in 15
locations currently and we're scaling
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into all 80 locations for Stop and Shop
across the state of Connecticut.
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Um, once the consumer has their bag of
redeemables full, they'll put their
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personalized bag tag sticker on it and
simply pull up to our redemption drop
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station located in the parking lot, scan
the bag. That unlocks the window. They
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place the whole bag inside. Within a
couple of business days, all of those
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containers are processed through our
state-of-the-art technology, which is a
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barcode scan of every single container
in the bag. And for every item in the
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bag that's a Connecticut deposit
eligible item, the funds are credited to
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a Clink account that lives virtually on
the kiosk. Um the consumer has the
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option of printing out a a cash out
redemption ticket anytime they go into
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the store. Um they can save the funds. A
lot of folks save them for Christmas
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shopping or holiday gatherings. Um other
people take out the money every time
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they go shopping and take a few dollars
off their grocery purchase. they are
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able I they were they are able to get
cash back if they prefer. They're also
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able to remove those um the credit for
those funds from their grocery purchase.
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Um now our standalone station um it's a
green solution so it's completely
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off-rid. Basically we bring in our drop
station and place it in the parking lot.
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Uh we do utilize existing parking
spaces. Uh for this location it would be
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four parking spots that were utilized.
three for the station itself and one as
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an access point. Um, for this
application, we would be located, if
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you're looking down on the store, um, to
the left side, kind of over in the
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corner, adjacent to some fencing and
some tree cover.
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The station's made of 100% recycled
material. The walls are made of a new
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building material called Eidora, which
is made from recycled plastic bottles.
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All of the aluminum, structural aluminum
is recycled aluminum. Um and the entire
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thing runs off of solar and wind
exclusively. Uh so it does not require
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any trenching shore power or anything of
the sort. Um and we are able to move it
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fairly simply if um you know the
determined location poses any type of
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problems. Um but when we look at placing
these location these these stations in
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the parking lot uh we look uh for areas
that are less traffic dense or that are
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you know relatively out of the way. We
also look at um aesthetics for the store
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um and for the community. Um I sent over
this morning and I don't know if anybody
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uh had an opportunity to look, but some
additional design um renderings that um
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are less uh we'll call it brand heavy.
Um our traditional branding is kind of
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loud. It's a little bit um kind of in
your face, but we have some more muted
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branding that uh we've found that some
of the communities in Connecticut
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prefer. Um, and we're also happy to do a
custom design based on feedback from the
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committee and the commission.
Um, if I'm able to share my screen, I'm
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happy to show those other designs.
>> Yes, you can.
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» Okay.
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Oops, that's the wrong thing. Um, can
you see the screen?
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» Yes,
>> all right. So, we have um this is this
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is kind of our traditional alternate
branding with the brick and beige um
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look. I know that certain stop and shops
go with this brick and beige color. Um
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we also have this more of a off-white
color. I know we did this one
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specifically for Berlin. Um and then the
stop and shop in Madison based on the
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Google images um that I've looked at um
has more of that grayish blue. And so we
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could obviously do this grayish blue
with the brick look um that complements
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um the existing grocery store. Uh we can
change the signage, modify it to suit um
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you know welcome the committee's
feedback on on both um our our intent
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and the practicality of it and the
design.
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Uh I have a question about location.
>> Of course,
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» you have put it in a roadway
uh which
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which there'll be cars going through
that roadway when somebody's at the
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clink station. Uh what's
with So there's going to be quite a few
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pedestrians with cars going through
there at at the same time. How's that
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going to work?
>> Of course. So the station itself is um
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is 8 ft wide and 8 ft high. So your
traditional parking space is is 18 ft.
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So this is only coming out into the
parking space about halfway. Um, and
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that allows us to place concrete
ballards still inside of the parking
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lines. So, it allows for a safe access
point for pedestrians between the
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ballards and the front of the station
itself. Um, while not impeding the
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travel aisles. Um, there's typically
where we place the stations, it's not
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always heavily utilized parking, so
folks have the ability to pull into an
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adjacent parking spot if they so choose.
Um, but honestly what we typically find
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is the bag drop process itself is just a
scan open and drop. Most folks simply
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pull their car up in front of the
ballards, hop out, scan their bag, and
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move on to their parking spot for their
shopping trip. Um, the entire bag drop
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process from putting the car in park to
put in the car and drive again takes
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about 15 to 20 seconds.
Could
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you could you could you repeat if you
don't mind uh repeat the process of drop
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off and redemption?
>> Of course. So ahead of time the consumer
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will fill their bag at their house. Tie
it
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» every standard kitchen size bag.
>> That's correct. Yep. Yep. 13gon
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drawstring kitchen trash bag. Mhm.
>> And then what we encourage folks to do
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is, you know, when they're setting up
their account or when they're in the
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store, whenever they buy new bags, they
print themselves out bag tags at the
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kiosk that is inside the store. So up in
the front of the store, there will be a
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clink kiosk. It's typically adjacent to
the service desk area or somewhere in
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the checkout or front end area of the
store. That's where
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» I'm sorry,
>> the tags then will identify.
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» That's correct. They print out their bag
tags there and that's also where they'll
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go to print a cash out ticket or a
withdrawal receipt that they can turn in
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at any cashier or at the service desk.
Um, so they'll print their bags ahead of
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time, print their bag tags ahead of
time, place it on their bag, put the bag
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in the trunk, drive down to the stop and
shop, and then they simply get out of
[11:35]
the car, get their bag, scan the bag
tag, that unlocks the window, they place
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the whole bag inside, and they're done.
So you essentially have to have your bag
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tags prepared. Like you would go one
week or one day print out tags to tag
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your bags so you can't just jump and
jump out and drop it
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» because you have to go into the store to
print your tag.
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» Correct. We do recommend that people
print a few ahead of time so that they
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have them just for simplicity, but we
also have folks that have gotten to the
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store with their bags, realize they
don't have any tags, they park, they go
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in, they do their shopping first. While
they're inside, they print their tags.
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Then they come out and tag their tags.
>> Yeah. Okay.
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» So, after I'm just curious. I know this
isn't our perview, but I'm just curious
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how this all works. So, th this this
structure gets filled with bags, right?
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Inside.
>> That's correct.
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» And someone comes along or a group of
people come along and take them
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» and comes each one individually and scan
the bottles.
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and and register that the that that scan
that person's scan and then puts the
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money in the account. Right. So So the
individual who drops off the can is
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reliant on the people on the accuracy of
the people who are doing the work
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» inside. So it's it's all it's all
machines. So the way it works at the
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processing center is um the bag is is
taken off of a cart off the truck. The
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bag tag is then scanned again to
associate the containers that are going
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to come through the scanner next with
that person's account. The bag is opened
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up and all the containers are emptied
out onto a recirculator device. Um,
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basically it aligns all of the cans and
bottles in a single file line on a
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narrow conveyor belt and it goes at high
speed through a camera array. It has
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eight different camera lenses on it. It
captures every barcode on every
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container as it's going past the camera
array. And then it uses um technology
[13:39]
and pneumatic pressure to sort the
material by type. So it knows the
[13:44]
barcode from say a Budweiser aluminum
can to a Poland spring plastic water
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bottle. And then as it's moving on down
the conveyor, based on the timing and
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the pressure, um it uses that pneumatic
air pressure to shoot the can or bottle
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down the specific pathway to bring it to
a hopper where it can then be um
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condensed and bailed um to go back to
the commodities market. So, um, because
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we recycle at a foodgrade quality level,
it allows the recycled material to go
[14:16]
back to the commodities market for its
highest and best use, which is to be
[14:20]
used um, to turn into more bottles and
cans, as opposed to getting down, which
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is typically what we see with
traditional curbside recycling
[14:29]
modalities, uh, where the containers
tend to get, um, contaminated with
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detergents and grease and oils and so on
and so forth. So we make sure that we
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are doing everything we can to extend
the life of that recycled material.
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» That sounds great. But so so the person
who drops off their cans is reliant on
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the accuracy of whoever or the machine.
So they have to trust that what they're
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getting back in cash is reflective of
what they dropped off.
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» Um they do. Yes. Um, I will tell you
we've had a lot of people that that have
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the same concern and that have tested us
simply by counting the containers in
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their bag and then waiting to see what
they get credited. Um, we are able to
[15:13]
um, if somebody calls in with questions,
we can tell them exactly what was in
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their bag. We can tell them how many of
this can or that can or that bottle. And
[15:22]
in the event that they had an item in
the bag that maybe came across the
[15:27]
border from New York or from Mass, if
it's an identifiable red line container,
[15:32]
they wouldn't get credit for that item
and we can explain to them why. Um, you
[15:36]
know, similarly, there's all kinds of
products coming to market regularly and
[15:41]
unfortunately some of these initiators
of deposit are not great about
[15:45]
communicating ahead of time that there's
a new barcode in the market that is
[15:49]
covered under the Connecticut
legislature. So, we give um when someone
[15:53]
calls and they ask about it, that
prompts us to do some research. And if
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we find that that is a new container, we
add that barcode to our UPC database and
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we retroactively credit everybody that's
had that container in their bag.
[16:06]
» Okay. Interesting. It is interesting.
What
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happens when Well, never mind. No
as well, Ron. Exactly.
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At least I understand. Right.
>> All you do is you tag a bag system the
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system gives you for however it's
counted
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» and if you're really concerned
>> you count your own and then you can
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question.
>> Correct.
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» Which is not
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a lot.
>> What's good also is that people are just
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literally driving by. So you have the
parking spaces the stop shop are pretty
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wide. I think they're like 10 feet. So
here are four spots. You've got 40 feet.
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So basically have a 40 foot long
parallel parking space. could come up,
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scan their thing, boom, throw it in the
door, they're out of the way. I
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personally don't have any concern.
>> What happens where you
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planning and zoning will express any
question if they have it? It's really
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their fill.
>> Who comes and services this for some
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reason the customer scans their code and
the window doesn't open.
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» So, we have two uh full-time brand
ambassadors that are in the market um
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you know, 40 plus hours a week. Um they
regularly service the stations. they go
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they clean all customerf facing touch
points they um ensure that all the doors
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are functioning properly. Um we do have
the ability to remotely reboot the
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system if a concern is reported to us.
We also have both internal and external
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uh CCTV where we monitor bag volumes so
we know you know if the station's
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getting full we can send our truck out
to pick up the bags. um you know, if we
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see that um there's been bags left
outside or something, we can call uh one
[17:50]
of our team members to have them come
take care of that. It's very rare that
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we see bags left outside because um you
know, they a could get stolen and and b
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people, you know, want to have the
security of knowing that they've they've
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placed their bag in the station and it's
secure.
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» How often do these get picked up?
>> Uh typically daily, but it's based on
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volume. We do have some higher volume
locations that are being picked up in
[18:14]
the in the Bristol and Southernington
area sometimes two to three times daily
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currently.
>> How many are are in Connecticut?
[18:21]
» Currently 15. And we have nine other
locations that are fully permitted that
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we're going to be launching between now
and the end of the year.
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» Any in the shoreline area? Any our
surrounding towns or are they in like I
[18:33]
know and Southernington and East Haven?
>> So we're in East Haven. We're in
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Fairfield.
Um we're going to be going into two in
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Newington, Manchester, Winstead, North
Kanan,
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um Colchester, Wallingford,
Ngat,
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and then you know we originally we've
been in in places like Simsbury,
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Bristol, Southernington. We've been
there for over a year now. Um, and you
[19:01]
know, one of one of my most interesting
factoids as far as a case study is uh
[19:06]
the Simsbury market, which you know, you
you may know it's a the Simsbury Avon is
[19:11]
a fairly affluent area of Connecticut
and um the redemption rates that as far
[19:16]
as cans going through the store uh
year-over-year from traditional reverse
[19:21]
vending machines to the Clink program
has improved over 40%. So, you know, for
[19:26]
a lot of people, it's not necessarily
about the money, but it's about doing
[19:30]
the right thing by the planet. And then,
you know, uh kind of
[19:35]
the consequence of that is by by their
wallet, you know, cuz people don't
[19:39]
realize how quickly those dimes add up
until you start actually redeeming your
[19:42]
containers regularly.
>> So, will the traditional machines that
[19:46]
say stop and shop will be eliminated?
>> They will. Yes. There's a phase in
[19:51]
period so that we're not just kind of
springing it on the consumer. Uh we
[19:55]
provide a 30-day notice that we're going
to be transitioning to the Clink
[19:59]
program. We open the Clink program. We
have a brand ambassador presence that
[20:04]
does uh full days from Thursday through
Monday um to help the public sign up and
[20:10]
get everybody uh ready to use the
program. And then we close the bottle
[20:14]
rooms the following week. And we still
have that brand ambassador presence uh
[20:18]
for that following long weekend. So it's
a two-week initial roll out. And then
[20:23]
thereafter we do what we call pop-up
tableabling events whereby we schedule
[20:28]
ahead of time and put a brand ambassador
back in these local stores. Um, and then
[20:32]
we publicize it via social media to let
anybody know that has questions or wants
[20:37]
to sign up their grandma or what have
you to come on down and see us while we
[20:41]
have uh brand staff on site at the stop
and shop.
[20:45]
» How soon does the cash get uh put into
their u their wallets as a group?
[20:50]
» Yep. So, it's basically a function of of
the timing between when they dropped the
[20:55]
bag off to when the truck comes and
picks it up. So, if they dropped off a
[21:00]
bag at 5:00 p.m. on a Monday and the
truck had been there to pick up at 400
[21:04]
p.m. on a Monday, the truck's probably
not going to be there again until
[21:07]
Tuesday and then they'll get their
credit typically on Wednesday. Once the
[21:11]
bags get brought back to the processing
center, they're processed right away.
[21:16]
» So, I'd like to move on to the container
uh aesthetic. So, this is an aluminum.
[21:22]
Probably looks just like a uh shipping
container or at least, but it's smooth.
[21:26]
I see. And so, it's painted, I presume.
>> It's a vinyl.
[21:32]
» It's It's vinyl. Yeah, vinyl wrap. Yeah.
And then what about the masonry on it?
[21:36]
Is that also like a decal or
>> the the entire thing is a vinyl wrap?
[21:41]
So, we just we just customize it based
on, you know, what the town's looking
[21:45]
for for an aesthetic.
>> Yeah.
[21:48]
I don't know how you guys feel about
that. I'd almost rather just be one big
[21:52]
simple
innocuous color. What do you think?
[21:55]
Rather than stick on a brick.
>> Oh, I don't know.
[21:59]
» Now, can I ask
>> Do we have to cut him?
[22:02]
» Can I ask a question? It's It's 8t high.
>> You said 8 ft wide, but it's 20 feet
[22:06]
long. That's correct.
>> Wow.
[22:13]
So, it's Oh, the graphic. It's a It's a
It's a It's a label.
[22:18]
» Yeah. Sorry. The Cox is how long? 20
>> 20 ft long.
[22:21]
» Okay. But it's four parking spaces.
There's a room. It's 20 ft. That's You
[22:25]
have something at the one end, you said,
for axis. Okay, I got it.
[22:29]
» Correct. Yeah. The station itself takes
up about Well, if you're telling me the
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parking spaces there are 10 ft wide,
then realistically we could probably get
[22:36]
away with three parking spaces. I'm
guessing I don't know for sure, but I So
[22:40]
they're they're wider than
regular
[22:43]
» wider than normal. Okay.
>> Yeah. Next time I'm in market, I'm happy
[22:47]
to take some measurements and and I can
reconfirm with the commission if if it
[22:51]
would take three or four
>> in the main parking field. I think
[22:56]
they're wider. They may not be on that
edge. So, who knows? You know, it's
[23:00]
something else.
So, do you guys have a
[23:06]
» You don't like
>> Yeah, I didn't say that. I just didn't
[23:11]
Well,
>> I just thought that I don't think it's
[23:13]
necessary to clink to be selling their
name
[23:18]
to to the consumers. The consumers don't
care. It's Clink,
[23:21]
» right? I mean, they're selling it to
some
[23:23]
» Well, you say, "I'm going to drop it
off."
[23:26]
» So, that would be a thing.
>> It would be a thing.
[23:30]
» Yeah, it's fine. But I mean if you don't
like the background
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» I'd like the gray one myself too.
>> Oh
[23:43]
» no no it's
>> so you want to keep the
[23:48]
» I don't care. It doesn't matter. Well,
no, the brick is, you know, I brick.
[23:52]
It's But
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» yeah, because I don't want to notice.
That's why that's what I'm thinking. And
[24:01]
then everybody Everybody has different
things they'll notice. People like me
[24:04]
will notice.
>> This is a different This is a different
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uh
>> I know you're not big.
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» I know. That's right. But I mean, in
general, it's you want to and
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» I pulled up Google Street View on my
phone a few minutes ago just to kind of
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see there's this kind of Well, this is
from a couple years ago, but it's kind
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of a messed up fence over there. It was.
And so, they'll be blocking some of
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that. It's kind of a gray fence that
>> there's there's the store.
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» And we're going to go right there. It's
going by the end where the tractor
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trailer's pulling and out in the back.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
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» Yeah. It's way over
that's the other place there's shade.
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» And just out of curiosity, you've been
to the site
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» and and somebody has monitored. You said
they go in low traffic areas and un like
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areas that are not parked. Someone
monitored
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» this specific location. No, we did not.
We just look for areas that are kind of
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away from the traditional traffic flow.
>> Uh I'm just going to share here back uh
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that location so everyone can see.
>> What about the same one?
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» Something
>> I think.
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Okay. So, one of our members feels
strongly that there should be some kind
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of banding at the bottom of the box. And
so we've all agreed that that those this
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one here with the uh where the panel is
>> the one here with the gray and then the
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dark brick at the bottom would be our
>> Is there is there any is there any uh uh
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option other than a brick pattern?
>> Uh I'm I'm I'm happy to to create some
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additional renderings. Do you have
something in mind?
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What else are you thinking?
>> We don't.
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It's just that the brick looks fake
brick. So if it was something in in
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keeping with the solid color of the rest
of the box, but it's the reason I like
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the darker brown bricks. It's roughly
the tone of building brick. So it
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» do we know it's going to be dead and
that's bright red.
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» Psychologically your brain will think of
it as sort of having some maybe visual
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relationship to the building. That's why
I like the term.
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» Okay.
>> That that was our thought as well. And
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that's why like um for the for the more
for the more cream colored branding that
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had a lighter beige brick and that
simply was that was done for Berlin and
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the Berlin store is more of an off-white
with that lighter beige brick whereas
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the Madison store is that darker gray
blue with the darker colored brick. Um,
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you know, I in in in the years that I've
been doing this, um, you know, people
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tend to prefer the brick look aesthetic
just because it matches the facade of
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the building a little bit more, but I'm
happy to do a a straight gray um, you
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know, and send that that over for for
the committee's consu consideration.
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» There's no r there's no rush on this
application
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if you want.
>> I mean, we could actually discuss this
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again next month if we
>> Okay. I think they're still waiting for
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some
other things.
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» Yes.
>> Meetings.
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» Do does somebody want to make a motion
on any is there any is there any other
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detail to this that we haven't discussed
just visually? Um Maria or
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» Well, there's um it's run by solar. So,
there's solar panels on top, right?
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» Yeah. I was I I do have a question about
the solar. Did somebody check out the
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actual sun in that area for solid
because there's trees. It's on the east
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side uh or west side actually and
it's to the south the south is to the
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left of it. So did somebody actually
figure out that solar is going to work
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good?
>> Yep. So we do um we look for uh
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obviously southern facing solar
exposure. Um, and the way the panels are
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mounted, they're 360°
um, you know, movable. So, we basically
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just angle them towards the south facing
sun.
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» Okay, good.
>> Okay,
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» we've only had one so far that we had to
move because it was not getting enough
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solar. Um, and that was one in
Southernington that was uh, beneath a
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big um, retaining wall, a large high
retaining wall with a number of mature
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trees above it. and we we had to move it
after about 6 months, but I don't have
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the expectation of that at this
location.
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» And you really So the wind is also a
necessary sort of component of this is
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another
>> um we're current we're currently still
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using the wind turbine. Um we've found
that it definitely does not generate as
[28:55]
much power as the solar. Um so we may
look to get into instead of two solar
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panels, one wind turbine, um three solar
panels. But um at this point we we're
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not making that change.
>> I only ask that because if it was just
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uh you know some solar panels and it's
one less thing that makes it like
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something that came from the Jetsons,
you know.
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» I just think it would be a little
cleaner looking. That's all. That's the
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only reason, you know, not that it
matters much.
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» I mean, if it's a make or break, we we
could modify the station to not have the
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wind and potentially put the third
solar.
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» It absolutely has to function. And you
you'll find out when you get there
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whether you really have enough sun or
not, I'm sure. So,
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» y
>> did you want to make a motion?
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» Did you Wait, did you decide on the the
clink part? You were okay with the sun?
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» We're going to Yeah, we're
>> I just made sure because I lost it in my
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notes somewhere.
>> Okay.
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» Make a motion to approve with the uh
dark gray and darker brick facade.
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Um
and that's about it.
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» Is there a second? I'll second. Okay. Is
there any discussion?
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» I think we've had enough discussion,
right? You bet. Okay. All in favor? I.
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Good luck. Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. I appreciate the
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commission's time. Have a great evening.
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» For those that noticed, I never
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go over. Well, I take it versus
>> Do you want
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» Do you want your minutes?
>> What
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» minutes?
>> Uh, as to make a motion to the meeting.
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I thought the minutes were quite dead.
>> I I second.
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One second. Oh, I
thought the minutes were very good.
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Thank you.
>> I tried.
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I'll take for that.
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» Okay.
Any discussion? I do need a motion to
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approve.
>> Yes. Second.
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» Yes. Okay. All in favor? I
>> I Okay. Great.
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Um,
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» anybody have any comments?
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I do either other than I thought I saw
the towns coming back for the work
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downtown or did that just get pulled off
from this meeting or am I what was I
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looking at? No, you for the
No, there uh I think there was something
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about the
you wanted to know when they chose a
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brick maybe for the for the
>> No, I just when I read the agenda, maybe
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I just read it wrong. I probably did.
>> Yeah, there's only one thing. There's
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only one thing on the agenda.
>> The only thing and I just Well, the town
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does have to address that middle strip
across,
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» right?
>> That's the big one.
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» Yeah, exactly. I would imagine that some
discussion about that open that already.
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Okay. So, uh motion to motion was
second. All in favor? I I