[0:05] Okay, I think we're ready to begin our city council meeting since the hour and six thirty has arrived. Maybe they're not. I'll just talk loud because it's on.

[0:31] Okay, thank you everyone for coming out this evening for City Council meeting for August 12th, 2026, and now it's still 6.30, so we did.

[0:45] All right.

[0:46] And Mike, we are holding our council meeting at the Manitai City Building 50 South Main.

[0:55] And we have today, almost the whole crew, AJ Maura is absent, excuse and our city manager

[1:06] is at the rural water meetings. He's on the board and so he's having Lecaix filling for him this evening.

[1:18] Megan Johnson, Mary Pipes, Jen Christensen, Brian Flazis, Fwa, are here as well as myself and a reporter Matt Gray.

[1:26] And Michael, we imagine it will be standing there for Jason.

[1:31] To begin this evening, Mary Pifes will offer our prayer and then write in French while we'll leave soon and pledge for each other

[1:41] and have them ourselves.

[1:42] Very blessed is the thing in this beautiful town and this beautiful country.

[1:46] Thankful for the opportunity we have to meet as a Mayor City Council and on the wonderful citizens of Pantheid this evening to discuss the citizens of Pantheid.

[1:56] We pray that by spiritual guidance as we consider the options in front of us

[2:01] that we will make the best and wisest decisions for everyone in the N.D.

[2:07] We are grateful for the reigns that we have received.

[2:11] We are grateful for the firemen who are out fighting the wildfires in our area.

[2:17] And we do pray for their safety and for the comfort of those who have been lost.

[2:23] We pray now that my spirit will be with us as we go through this evening.

[2:27] We with those who are not here this night that they will also be blessed.

[2:30] We love these for very much and these days these things in the name of my son, Jesus Christ, isn't it?

[2:35] In the head. He's right for the glory.

[2:41] I believe it is the state of life of the United States of America, and to the Republic, or which it stands, one nation under God,

[2:52] into this law with liberty and justice for all.

[3:00] Thank you. He

[3:04] first item on our council agenda today,

[3:08] If you want to switch that up, okay?

[3:11] If you can, is the declaration of

[3:14] confidence of personal interest,

[3:15] if anyone has anything that they need

[3:18] to declare on the agenda today,

[3:20] please make it known?

[3:21] I don't know if it's a conflict of interest,

[3:23] but just so everyone knows,

[3:24] I don't want to disturb a reservation commission.

[3:27] I think that's sort of an assignment.

[3:29] Well, thank you.

[3:32] Thank you for bringing me that.

[3:34] Our second item is the approval

[3:36] a lot of recent Council meeting minutes from July 15th, 2026. Has anyone noted any additional

[3:45] corrections that are needed on the minutes? I will not accept a motion to approve minutes

[3:54] for July 15th, 2026. On the motion that we approve the minutes from

[4:02] The motion made by Grant Francois, seconded by Jen Christy Hanson Olin-Taver.

[4:09] Hi.

[4:10] Any opposed?

[4:12] Motion passes.

[4:14] That's our crew.

[4:14] Thank you.

[4:16] Next item is an approval of payment report that the bills that will need to sign that the conclusion of our Council meeting today.

[4:25] Are there any questions on those bills?

[4:27] or any items that you want to discuss.

[4:31] I'm really glad that we use an anti-mode call

[4:34] for businesses as we do.

[4:36] The nice thing is that we have gotten things from

[4:38] that we've used whenever possible here in New Zealand.

[4:43] Thanks for bringing in that up, Mary,

[4:45] because it is important.

[4:47] And hopefully we all make an effort for our local businesses

[4:51] because it helps with our own tax base

[4:54] so that we don't have to increase other taxes

[4:56] as much. All right, given that, I will accept a motion for the

[5:04] repealment of the bills following our meeting this evening.

[5:12] Motion made by Jim Christensen, and seconded by Megan Johnson, all in favor.

[5:18] Hi. Hi. Any opposed? Motion passes, so we'll take

[5:26] The next item is regarding our 2027 municipal elections and I believe we have an expert to explain things to it.

[5:39] Heather, thank you.

[5:58] This is regarding the draft 27 interlocal cooperation agreement between Santa Fe County and New York City.

[6:06] You're

[6:12] welcome.

[6:15] Thank you.

[6:16] You're welcome.

[6:17] Thank you very much.

[6:18] Thank you.

[6:19] You're welcome.

[6:20] Thank you.

[6:22] Okay.

[6:23] So my name is Heather Piper.

[6:25] And I am Southeast County Fellowship Specialist.

[6:29] Also a Deputy Clerk for Women for CNN.

[6:31] She's the county clerk.

[6:32] If you're not aware of the county clerk's panel,

[6:35] we do broader requests,

[6:38] marriage licenses, business licenses,

[6:40] past courts.

[6:41] We also do a meeting agenda

[6:43] the clerking for the county commissioners and the planning commission and then my personal

[6:48] favorite is election.

[6:49] Well, Linda came into the office almost four years ago, one of the highest priorities

[6:53] of her was to be able to build a stronger, more direct connection with our municipal leaders.

[6:58] But more specifically with our state of recorders.

[7:00] Under Ducal Law, our state of recorders serve as the election model.

[7:04] The official election of officers of the municipal elections.

[7:08] She is the election officer for the county.

[7:10] three-quarters carries a responsibility of local governance

[7:13] for ethnic grassroots levels.

[7:15] Today, I'm here to discuss our updated

[7:17] in a local election agreement, walk through

[7:20] about 2027 municipal elections by the will of life,

[7:24] and highlight why activists were involved

[7:25] in an essential to running secure, accurate,

[7:28] and transparent elections across that county.

[7:31] First of all, for the inter-local agreement,

[7:34] The updated, the updated local agreement has normally changed much through the past years

[7:44] on false provoked or did increase and certification responsibilities have been enhanced.

[7:51] County Commission and the county attorney have approved the draft and the county commission meeting.

[7:56] We encourage you to review the document to city attorney and you have any suggestions,

[8:00] and be back for adjustments to be evaluated.

[8:04] Find out the agreement, be assigned, be a document.

[8:07] Come to December, and this year, we are going to also

[8:11] please get your feedback back to us by April 27th.

[8:17] For those of you that have a copy,

[8:19] can you please turn, say, did it be?

[8:22] So

[8:42] this is the estimated cost per election.

[8:46] As you review this, you'll see that the basic election

[8:49] administration needed $4 per register voter for each election.

[8:53] And once we can be transparent, the cost of administering an election is far more than just

[8:59] $4 per register voter.

[9:03] The cost of administering elections is for secure ballot printing and return postage

[9:08] to specialize in equipment, maintenance, licensing, and staff, state-mounted security audits,

[9:14] a data for their policy board, drastically.

[9:17] A rate of four letters for four letters of night

[9:19] and cover the cost of the county

[9:21] and ministers each election.

[9:23] By partnering with the county and the state of Illinois

[9:26] is having to purchase hundreds of thousands of dollars

[9:28] in multiple legislators, high-speed scanners,

[9:31] especially voting machines.

[9:33] The county handles the heavy technical lid,

[9:35] such as creating a million dollars,

[9:37] managing signature verification,

[9:39] time rating votes, and conducting votes election models.

[9:42] As of right now, magic currently has 234 active registered donors, and over the past five

[9:50] election cycles, Matt Harris held the primary election in 21, 23, and as in 25, and the general

[9:56] election, because there's 17, 19, 21, 23, and as in 25, so looking ahead, the 20, 27,

[10:02] million elections, we want your council to be prepared to budget accurately. Primary elections

[10:08] in our county municipalities are only triggered when Canada, by the way, is exceed twice the number to the open seats.

[10:16] Historically, in most county counties, cities only hold a general election.

[10:21] However, if you would have a contest of race with three or more candidates for a single open seat, a primary bill for

[10:27] incurring the rate of the four dollars per register bill there.

[10:31] Just a budget intent, we just strongly suggest that you acutely do put in a primary in your budget, as if you were going to have a primary in the $27 election.

[10:45] While the county managed, managed with the ballot processing, the high-tech infrastructure of susceptible election is impossible without active participation from our state recorders and local officials.

[10:57] We are here to support you in every step of the way, but city development, slip, strip, critical

[11:04] statutory steps, union and custody protocols cannot be kept compromised.

[11:08] Specifically, we need your leadership in four key areas.

[11:11] For the training and development, we need to report as intentionally additional city staff

[11:16] or election officials to participate directly in our local worker and election security training.

[11:21] ballad pick up and delivery, under the interlocal agreement the city's responsibility to pick up and deliver battle.

[11:28] We do not take the chance to trust the or ballad be sure to be lighting.

[11:32] Only trained individuals are authorized to perform ballad pick up and delivery duties.

[11:36] Your directing involvement here is critical to protecting the integrity of the boat.

[11:41] Such a story public nonsense and disclosures.

[11:44] Recorders remain in responsible for single-calibration windows, valid review, sample ballots, and election notices on the Utah public as well as reflecting financial exposure's conflict of interest statements in regard to valid review, the city official will verify

[12:02] that it was printed to admit state code and will sign off and have the data stating this ballot has been approved.

[12:10] Also, updating elected official changes, so around the year, not just during election,

[12:16] you will have city council change, mayors change, just doesn't like Bayette, Jeff Artichoke

[12:22] on the new.

[12:22] One of those things is, you know, you have access to Google Docs, but you need to be updated

[12:34] immediately so that we are able to update the state's website and everything.

[12:41] When you say absence in a bolt and train, you protect your needs, we protect your needs

[12:47] to follow from legal changes, security risks, and administrative delays.

[12:51] You are never on an island to the process.

[12:53] Our county wide network facility reporters is a wonderful resource.

[12:57] If you are ever unsure about a deadline or disposal room, lean under the new reporters.

[13:02] Peer support across Africa County is one of our greatest strengths.

[13:05] and they will say,

[13:07] China is in e-rev,

[13:09] and they see the incentives are amazing people

[13:12] to lean on.

[13:13] If you have questions, they are awesome.

[13:17] I also strongly encourage all reporters

[13:19] who participate in the Lieutenant Governor's office,

[13:22] it's called the Browns' Memorial.

[13:23] It's a portal that connects you with the state election

[13:25] officials and reporters across the state of Utah

[13:28] to state current launching,

[13:29] launch changes and address practices.

[13:32] Today, I am inviting you with the copy

[13:34] of the 2025 election calendar. I think Mary has one. But this is what it looks like. Actually, I don't know if Mary has one though.

[13:46] This is what it looks like. Green is municipal orange and in the blanks are just either both with combined or the LD's office.

[13:55] and district states every day on a year, and the state code connected to it on what is happening that day, day, night, and all of a sudden.

[14:07] The

[14:19] first day almost calendar is actually January 1st, and it goes for the 15th.

[14:24] It also includes Milo State Code References and my strong in-person report to use these references to follow upcoming legislative sessions

[14:32] of any legislative change he can directly impact the global election climate.

[14:37] As many of you know, deadlines in the world of elections aren't suggestions,

[14:42] they are a statutory requirement, and mandates.

[14:47] Taking hand in election results, for example, most cities prefer to count this during a regularly

[14:52] scheduled city policy.

[14:53] However, they go strictly, they state that a child cannot happen sooner than 70s after the election.

[15:00] And no later than 14 days after an election. That isn't the title and no will do just one week. Because of the judgment, because of the judgment should be made, shouldn't be made last minute. When you said your animal meeting has to begin with the year, we suggest that you post it to follow the most, but I take a look at your election timeline and adjust your meeting together accordingly to that election. So you're not having to

[15:29] to do a special meeting just in your campus.

[15:32] If you'd refer to the executive summary

[15:34] that I handed each of you, please note as the key

[15:37] to 2020 deadline to primary elections in the new August,

[15:42] and the general election is November 2nd, 2017.

[15:45] The theme of the field's real results,

[15:47] our assembly and county elections office was read,

[15:49] was recently recognized by the superintendent governor's office

[15:52] of one of the five counties statewide

[15:54] just to receive an award at the state capital.

[15:56] For the elect, of excellence in elections, communications, best practices for voter education and outreach and accessibility.

[16:03] That recognition belongs to our entire election team and the municipalities of reporters who partner with us.

[16:09] It shows that the immemorial county, because that state standards for clean, accessible, and secure elections.

[16:15] With that being said, I'd like to take a moment to discuss your figure of order.

[16:19] We sincerely appreciate this support with the past two elections and the attendance that are most recent training.

[16:24] Next year, March is his first election, leading as the only one to ensure he has tools

[16:29] that work to thrive and succeed.

[16:31] To make that happen, active participation in all of the main current trainings and prompt

[16:36] static communication with our office will be essential.

[16:40] That this is his election, and our role is to partner with him to ensure his seamless process.

[16:46] We deeply value our partnership with every city and city county.

[16:50] We're here to help guide you, but we do, but we do need your active seat.

[16:54] of the table. Staving, starting with training and balance engineering. Thank you for your

[17:00] service in our community, and I haven't answered any questions about our integral agreement

[17:04] training schedules, which is on 27. Question of rejections. I have one question, yes.

[17:10] On number 10, it says counter parts. This agreement that we answered can you tell the correct

[17:15] slide of 3D in the time? Can you just explain what that means? It's right to look it up.

[17:24] And I can give the feeling that it needs both of us to do it, but I don't understand.

[17:29] Yes, that's exactly it.

[17:31] And in this, in a local agreement, it does state that the city is responsible for certain things

[17:38] and the county is for it.

[17:39] Thank you.

[17:42] You're welcome.

[17:45] What was the cost in the past?

[17:48] I hope so.

[17:49] Yeah, it was, so my answer was to, well, everybody was 225 for Robert and I was a 4-0 for Robert.

[17:59] Yeah, that's a huge one.

[18:04] And I kind of lost track of what the legislature has done and what they've passed on,

[18:10] what they've provoked and passed.

[18:11] is now to city going to have to have their own ballot boxes

[18:16] when they come to the municipal election,

[18:18] or will you be able to use the county drop box

[18:21] or how is that going to work?

[18:23] So right now, now, if I drop box

[18:25] is the one that's at the county warehouse,

[18:28] if wanted, we do have an extra little ballot box

[18:31] that could go inside and office

[18:33] that can be locked and secured in there.

[18:35] The shop would need to pull work or stare

[18:38] I don't know why that's open, is that telling me what would work?

[18:41] Um, no, the walk camera, so just having it on camera would be a thing, yeah, I think so,

[18:47] because you're not knowing as much as early detection and ballot, you're not just dropping

[18:51] the ballot box in the office, but, yes, people are just like, what everybody knows, they're

[18:57] trying to have the ballot box or a kind of match, and then even have a lot of people drop

[19:00] them off here, is okay.

[19:02] Thank you.

[19:03] You're welcome.

[19:04] Other questions?

[19:08] I have one question.

[19:09] Okay.

[19:11] So I don't know what the situation is this year, but if you've had a situation where there is a winner of a primary election and there are no other candidates for any other parties, do you still have to have a general election?

[19:30] I mean, are you talking about the accounting question?

[19:33] Because sitting with municipal elections

[19:35] are not for us.

[19:36] Yeah, so, yes.

[19:38] So, like, right now, like, age, for example,

[19:43] has no one running against him.

[19:44] I'll look right now, because the right

[19:45] and the right has a question.

[19:46] So, as of right now, yes, age will be on the general ballot.

[19:50] Along with, like, when you'll be on the general ballot,

[19:52] Kevin Daniels will be on it, June, June,

[19:54] he'll be on it.

[19:56] Yes, there will be a general.

[19:58] Okay.

[20:03] Thank you very much.

[20:05] You're welcome.

[20:05] I would say for anyone who has not been to the first office to see the process of elections

[20:11] that they're concerned about, the safety and security, it's unbelievable what you guys do.

[20:17] So I really encourage everybody when they get the opportunity to talk to you about how you do it

[20:22] and how the process works because it was amazing.

[20:27] Thank you very much.

[20:29] Yeah, I was just having a good example.

[20:31] Yeah.

[20:32] Thank you.

[20:33] How are you doing?

[20:34] Thank you.

[20:36] All right.

[20:37] The next item is a discussion of the Urban Deer Removal Program.

[20:42] Removal.

[20:43] And we have some representatives from PWR here.

[20:53] I'm Rodney Olson.

[20:55] I am the Central Region Wildlife Biola on your program.

[21:02] I've got this in the air while my manager is here with me to make sure that the title is

[21:10] screwed up.

[21:11] So, let's see what happens.

[21:14] Thanks for coming.

[21:15] You're welcome.

[21:16] Now, I wasn't quite sure, I guess, do you just have questions about the CO2 or the program

[21:24] or anything that I can answer, or I did really present

[21:28] or planned a presentation, but I'm here to answer questions.

[21:35] So needed.

[21:36] So I have a question.

[21:37] Yes.

[21:38] The active date says August 1st, October 31st,

[21:42] we can take 50 here for a year on the National City limits.

[21:46] Is there, what is the process to extend that date

[21:49] from October 31st to say, November 31st,

[21:53] or something like that.

[21:55] To increase 30 other days.

[21:57] Okay, so we're pretty, we're pretty sad on the cat

[22:02] and off on October 15th.

[22:05] And the reason why, yeah, it's over 31st.

[22:08] Pardon?

[22:09] It's over 31st.

[22:11] It's over 31st.

[22:16] Yeah, okay.

[22:21] That was not supposed to be that way.

[22:28] I'm just making sure Halloween is a big, nothing like that.

[22:32] I don't know how that got changed.

[22:38] The last time I had seen it, we had an October 15th cutoff date on that.

[22:43] So we probably were going to have to re-address that and change that too.

[22:50] That should have read that October 15th is the cutoff date.

[22:53] And what's the reasoning for that?

[22:56] The reasoning is, so this whole program is designed to remove what we call urban deer,

[23:01] residential deer that are born and raised in the native town year round.

[23:07] What we've discovered over the years is, when we first implemented this program, I can

[23:13] to me, 12, I believe, at that time, we allowed removals to go from August 1st to December 31st.

[23:21] That's when we can appear to be removed.

[23:26] What we found with,

[23:30] about that time, color data

[23:33] started to come into play with animals.

[23:35] Tracking, you know, we put with GPS hours on.

[23:39] And what we discovered is after about the middle of October,

[23:45] is when we started getting the migration of mountaineer

[23:48] that come down into the cities.

[23:52] We've already moved the urban

[23:54] deer to city here and if we go past about 15 to October we

[23:58] ran the risk of so that the mountain deer, wild deer, they come

[24:04] down in October or November, you know, for the migration, they'll

[24:09] spend the winter down here and then they go back up on the mountains.

[24:13] Those are the deer that we do not want to rip.

[24:18] Yeah, right. And the difference between the two different deer is, the deer that are born and raised here, this is their home, this is all they know, they don't know the mountains, they don't know the food yields.

[24:31] And so we're trying, that's the deer that we're trying to lower the numbers on, manage the population of those.

[24:37] you know, the, the, the migratory deer, the deer that are, that are doing the way they're supposed to.

[24:43] They've been doing it for eons, and that's what we want to continue to do.

[24:47] So that's why we, we regulate that cutoff date, you know, and make it shorter.

[24:55] You know, we've got some cities, Eagle Mountain, Elk Ridge, for instance.

[25:00] It's there in the program and we only allow them to remove deer from month of August and that's it that we cut them off

[25:07] just because they're proximity to the to the big hills. It's a lot better. There's a lot more there.

[25:15] So that is the reason why we end it.

[25:21] Do we know how many urban deer we have in the city of Antide and in the rough estimate?

[25:25] I believe, I believe I've seen this that they came up with, it was 200 times a mile.

[25:33] And it's, and that's really a hard time to come up with because when you go out in New York,

[25:42] you know, usually when they, when they do these things, the best time to count beers at night,

[25:46] you know, that's when they come out, it's easier to see what's going to happen.

[25:50] that. But did you count this group and then they switch way or moving and did you count

[25:57] them again? So it's more based on the number of complaints that you get from residents

[26:05] and you know the issues that people have with the urban deer. Do 50 years generally each

[26:14] year that would get taken out? No. No. I believe. Fine. Yeah. Yeah.

[26:22] And why is that?

[26:25] It's difficult. It's hard to, so the way that Mantai has been doing

[26:30] the last few years is light traffic and then, you know, if it's called a flow

[26:35] or traffic, it's a light traffic. You can imagine trying to get any water

[26:40] of out into the cage, is pretty difficult.

[26:45] So there's a lot of,

[26:48] my hours are going to catch near.

[26:53] It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

[26:54] it's, we've done that it's a difficult task.

[26:57] So aren't there a batch of items

[26:59] that are timing this too, or thought I heard that?

[27:01] No, not, not with this program.

[27:04] So the city can, the, the two options

[27:08] that city has as you can either use the trapping method, you know, a light track, or if you

[27:15] so waste you can find a product contractor or somebody that removes them with archery equipment,

[27:24] that would be the suits.

[27:29] When the program first started, the majority of the animals were removed

[27:34] believed to be more done by a archery contractor that they did that.

[27:42] They had pretty good

[27:43] success with it but they had the reason that they don't do it anymore is they had

[27:48] been a problem with the days that we set out to remove, removed deer. They wanted to wait

[27:55] later in the deer because it's easier to remove them at that point. So they could

[28:03] They don't do it anymore, so all the cities that are left in the program are all doing

[28:08] the life tracking and working in that way.

[28:12] And that's the method that I urge cities to look at.

[28:18] Anytime you have somebody that's shooting archery equipment inside a city,

[28:23] you know, they were careful.

[28:25] I don't know that they had any major problems, accidents or anything like that.

[28:30] But going with the life trap and pretty much eliminating the life ability issue.

[28:39] Five-year, that's already putting it down, and it's just one of those that is what you guys decide to do, you know, it is.

[28:56] Depending on the actual numbers now, you might not even keep up with the rate of replenishing on them,

[29:03] But a lot of cities use this to not so much control

[29:08] the population, but to try to help the presidents

[29:12] and citizens with certain problems that they

[29:15] have in their neighborhoods.

[29:17] In other cities, I've seen where, for the majority

[29:21] of the towns, they don't have very few in here,

[29:25] but they don't have certain spots throughout that town.

[29:27] We're deersing to congregate and cause a group of presidents

[29:31] or a neighbor that is on a lot of grief, and that's where they concentrate their efforts.

[29:39] So if outside of these times, I've had one of the least ones that was in contact with

[29:44] the aggressive deer that's been hanging out in my yard, like she was going to let her

[29:48] dogs out as the deer would be there, and it was standing in front of the towards her and towards

[29:51] the dogs.

[29:52] What would be the best thing for people to do if that happens outside of this person?

[29:57] So if you have a regressing...

[30:00] Here they can call the division, and we can come out, and you know, we make a case by case, you know, if, if there's, you know, what will happen, especially, there's two times of the year that there will typically be a little bit more aggressive, that's in the fall when they're going to run. They tend to be not wanting to be messed with, you know, left alone. And then the other time that we get calls on a dressing year,

[30:28] is in the springtime and the dose starter up in the bonds.

[30:34] And a lot of times, you know, they'll call it and talk to us.

[30:38] We can come out and look at it in the middle of the week.

[30:41] A lot of times is just mostly, yeah.

[30:45] It's probably got a bond, you know,

[30:47] if you give it a little bit of space and allowing it,

[30:51] let the bond get to where they can get it to move it.

[30:53] You know, they'll be used to those ways.

[30:56] If there's a public safety issue, they can call us and if you can look at it.

[31:05] Sometimes we just talk about what the process is and who that is.

[31:09] I was going to ask, is it accurate that the residents here are not at all healthy

[31:16] because they're not eating the right stuff?

[31:18] Yes, so they're not in near the condition as the wild there

[31:24] because they're not eating the right diet that the deer should eat, you know, they're wrong.

[31:30] You can say, think, you know, yeah, roses, tomato plants, it's not, you know, deer rather,

[31:36] so they can eat it and they've been eating it their whole life, they can survive on it,

[31:43] they can get by on it, but as far as the healthy deer, they're not healthy.

[31:48] When we were at the beginning of the program, we were trapping and relocating and doing

[31:55] the legal removal.

[31:56] And when we tracked, when we tracked a deer, it was pretty easy to determine if it was

[32:03] a wild deer or if it was an urban deer, just by conditions.

[32:07] Muscle, fat on, there's pretty good distinction between the two of them.

[32:16] Is there any concern with your department, I mean, in a real community like this, where you have a dear population,

[32:24] is for punishing it, I've got a greater rate than when they're being removed.

[32:30] They're in a situation in the habitat, but they're really on no predator, right?

[32:34] I'm sorry, with Jason's GNC truck.

[32:36] Yeah, yeah.

[32:39] And, you know, that's, it's so it's a problem that's just going to exponentially get worse

[32:44] that more people come in, more plants, gardens, things like that, you know, it's just going

[32:49] to perpetuate.

[32:51] Is there, is there a feeling that maybe something a little bit more drastic needs to be done

[32:58] in order to try to put it again in the situation?

[33:02] Yeah, so, you know, going forward, I mean, if you were looking at the triandermoon more

[33:08] near from the line skating, the best way to do that would be to increase the number of

[33:14] traps that you have now.

[33:15] I'm not sure how many men died using the last few years.

[33:20] I think they had, they were using five or six possibly.

[33:26] You know, so the more you put out on the landscape, the more chances and better chances you have of the catch-and-ear in the dream of the more of them.

[33:36] But you're right, about the only predator that they have is cars.

[33:43] So do you have any suggestions for the citizens that are in town?

[33:48] I mean, I've got everything I don't want them to eat pretty much just that soft.

[33:52] Sure, the best thing for people to do is they outlands hate, they don't want to serve.

[33:57] Yeah, they can't have picked all my tomatoes that were on the plant that was right next to mine.

[34:02] Let me guess, they only take one white out of one tomato and then they move to the plant.

[34:06] They left three of the green ones in one white.

[34:08] They're at one stage, and it's kind of an experiment because it was literally right next to my front door.

[34:13] Sure.

[34:14] How close will they be?

[34:15] Yeah, don't come right next to your plant.

[34:16] So, yes, a fancy, an eight-foot fence around what you want to protect is a guaranteed key to do around it.

[34:24] That's 100%, but with the understanding that that could be expensive and, you know, why not be?

[34:30] It's awkward.

[34:31] Yeah, so the, the, the, the spiel or the, the talk that I give to people, and I get a lot of calls just about the weekly of people with, you know,

[34:43] I'm complaining concerns about deer in regard to the zing in regard to certain plants or

[34:48] bushes. There are, there's a lot of things out on the market that people swear that

[34:55] their work is the electronics stuff. There's the flagging lights containing salt, human

[35:02] hair. I've listed all of them and I've looked at all of them and none of them, as I know,

[35:09] any of them work. They might work in individual cases, but it's not something that I say yet.

[35:16] It's the only thing that I can give you suggestion on with deer in New York is there's an item out there

[35:25] called the Scarif Crow Sprinkler. It's a Sprinkler's Sprinkler's Sprinkler, well it's a

[35:32] designed Sprinkler for this purpose, but it has a motion sensor on it. So you look at your

[35:39] You turn water on, you stick it in your yard.

[35:42] Twenty-four said it works, it suddenly comes in and breaks that vein, it sprays in your design

[35:47] to be a little bit louder than regular sprinklers, so it's not so much that it sprays the

[35:56] scares me, it's that startling, you know, a little bit of it.

[36:01] That works really well.

[36:03] I'd recommend that in the point of the years, I've had several people that have called me

[36:07] back after and saying that was amazing, that was great. There are a couple of secrets and

[36:12] tricks to using those. You get these, you know, and people depend on how big of an area

[36:18] you're trying to protect. You might want to put two or three of them, put them in tandem.

[36:24] But the big secret is, do not put them, just don't stick them through yet, it's not like

[36:29] they're on goal. Don't send it to forget it, you know. Go out and move it every couple,

[36:34] two or three days and move it even 10 feet or a different angle or whatever, because

[36:40] deer are very, they have habits and they, you know, a deer will get up and it will

[36:49] go down the same path every morning at the same time, you know, it will go the same way.

[36:54] So what the idea is is when you're dealing with deer that are causing you problems is you want

[36:59] try and break that cycle. It won't happen overnight. It takes some

[37:04] diligence to keep on it. If you keep messing that up and messing

[37:09] them up and not letting them figure out where it's at eventually

[37:14] over time, most deer will move. They'll change their habits and they'll

[37:18] build those somewhere else. And it's really important to turn

[37:30] So that right there is, you know, the other suggestions I tell people is, you know, I'll be

[37:38] talking to somebody and they'll be on the phone with me and they'll stop and say, I'll

[37:41] then damn you or right there under my voice, they're just, don't let the deer be comfortable,

[37:49] You know they they don't like to be bothered they'd like to be let alone in peace

[37:56] You know they're flouting out so every time you see them out there underneath your trees or in your garden or whatever go out

[38:02] run off, you know, bang the car on some pants throw rocks at them

[38:08] spray with the hose, you know, do and like I say, you know people will do it and they do it a couple of times and no

[38:16] No, it doesn't work, but it's that consistency

[38:23] doing it every single time, every single time.

[38:27] If I'm fortunate to go out on this fork and end,

[38:30] but where I live, I wouldn't manage for it,

[38:33] and the neighborhood that we live in, we don't have.

[38:35] We live far enough in if we don't have here,

[38:37] but I always tell people, I would guarantee you

[38:40] that if I had here in New York that I didn't want there,

[38:57] And I can say, these are not sure if we're in a combination of all of them together or

[39:04] you can start to.

[39:07] We didn't use to have a problem.

[39:10] No, 15 years ago, things just started building and building.

[39:17] Well, and I'll tell you a little bit about that, and I've talked to other people in

[39:22] other cities.

[39:23] Springville was one of them.

[39:24] I went to the city council meeting there, and the lady stood up and she says, I lived

[39:29] in Springville for 35 years, and we never had this many deer in Springville.

[39:36] And partially true, but partially it's not true what happened 35 years ago is, and I'm sure

[39:43] it's the same thing with Manta, Manta was 35 years ago, was probably half the size it

[39:50] is now.

[39:52] I don't know, I'm just putting numbers out there, but you have a lot more undeveloped ground.

[39:58] Now, every time you build a house or you develop a piece of your house, you just tighten

[40:05] it out of the space up from here.

[40:07] So I think with Springville, they've always had gear, but they've just spread out in

[40:12] a larger area.

[40:14] The Springville develops and a lot of it, a lot of it is developed and you're just tightening

[40:20] that space.

[40:21] So all of a sudden, you had, you know, 100 years spread out over 58 years and now they're

[40:29] comprising into 20 years, you know, so I think the numbers, I don't know that we have

[40:37] any data that really show that, but that's what I suspect is, it's not so much more

[40:46] So,

[40:49] in terms of this renewal, it's not that we have to put it into play, but if we need to,

[40:57] you have the option, because if we don't renew, then we don't have the option.

[41:03] That is correct.

[41:05] So, yeah, there's nothing in there that says that if you don't remove the error,

[41:11] we're going to come in right here.

[41:15] No, it's just so that you have the authority and the option that if you want to, you can

[41:23] do it.

[41:24] We want you to get Delta Force and come in.

[41:30] Well, if you go back, I think I've done a little bit of reading and back ease.

[41:35] There's some communities back there that kind of do that.

[41:38] They'll hire private contractors that specialize

[41:43] and using suppressed firearms, you know, they all back out.

[41:50] Because back ease, you know, is you think that we've got a lot of deer?

[41:54] They're sitting back there, they're just overrun with the white deer,

[41:57] and there's a lot of problems back there.

[42:03] Any other questions from any of them?

[42:06] Thank you very much.

[42:07] You're welcome information for white deer.

[42:09] Thank you.

[42:11] And if you have any further questions down the road, be sure to give me a hard one.

[42:18] Thank you.

[42:19] Okay.

[42:19] Thank you.

[42:23] So with the proposal to renew,

[42:31] I guess we need to check a date on that, but I think

[42:36] we can still accept a motion to renew that the program to give us the option and then

[42:47] we will have it available which is the usage.

[42:50] So I will accept a motion to renew the program.

[42:54] All right.

[42:54] I'll make a motion that we renew the Earth and give it a little program.

[43:00] I'm motion made by Brian Francois, and seconded by Mary Pipes, all in favor.

[43:08] Any opposed?

[43:10] The motion passes, will check, and get back.

[43:14] And I will check on how far to put my doubt about the date on that, and we'll get it

[43:24] done.

[43:24] Yeah.

[43:25] As long as you have the Dean and you

[43:30] -

[43:30] Okay.

[43:30] Great.

[43:31] All right.

[43:32] Thank you again for-

[43:32] Sorry, I didn't mean what.

[43:34] I thought you were done.

[43:35] No.

[43:36] And-

[43:36] And don't run into any gear since it's now that I'm getting most of us on your way home.

[43:42] No.

[43:43] I wouldn't leave that on there.

[43:45] Thank you.

[43:46] Okay.

[43:47] Happy new year.

[43:47] Thank you.

[43:48] Happy new year.

[43:49] Yeah.

[43:51] Oh, there you go with that.

[43:52] Renewable program.

[43:53] Thank you.

[43:56] All right. The next item on our agenda is the monthly financial reports. And McCain, will you take care of that for us please?

[44:05] I'll do it again. All right. So just as a reminder, everybody want to come to the budget here. So that's about 8% for the usual part.

[44:15] So, that's just helpful as we go through these numbers to understand.

[44:21] Since my nausea is not going to be going over every number, you can see it up here and

[44:26] I'll at least go through what I know to see it at least.

[44:30] Great.

[44:33] So, I'm only going to go over most of the year to date about that green column.

[44:37] You can see here, this is General Finance, where I told her a news about a few, few thousand.

[44:46] In General Finance, I scroll down and you can see expensive, but General Finance as well,

[44:51] is fully equipped with a trim bottom total.

[44:58] So, we've got a total of...

[45:00] 316,000 members, this is for the expenses. Also, we're always over the expenses for the first six months in the year. Once they start to work there, they spend a lot on

[45:18] to specific revenue. Nothing going on now, we know. And the

[45:27] pricing forms, which do they speak of, kind of, it started. And the pricing here is in black.

[45:49] All right, next item on the agenda is recreation director Luke Rowley to speak with us about the Duncan Hill proposals.

[46:13] We received a grant for $5,000, a year, well it's been a year and a half ago.

[46:21] We were supposed to finish the grant up last year, but we pushed it off just because we were trying to come up with a better location for the discount course, that kind of stuff.

[46:30] This year, we've got a proposal for you to put it on Duncan Hill, so we can't pull those

[46:38] pictures off a little bit with you, but while I'm waiting for him, a couple things that

[46:44] I'm going to talk about, we have a company, it's a nonprofit company called Elbeque Talk.

[46:50] They've helped design several big courses, for example, they designed the course that the

[46:56] women's national U.S.A. team just came and played with me and talked up in, where was that

[47:01] man?

[47:02] Talking right.

[47:04] It was the U.S. women's self-champing shipment.

[47:06] This is a major professional business.

[47:09] Yeah, so this company that we're working with has design courses like that, so, and they've

[47:15] actually, so our grants for $5,000, they actually help me get 17 baskets already donated

[47:25] to us, which is where the value of $6,000 is all going to sell it, and so a couple things

[47:32] about disc golf, it's kind of like a regular golf course, if you look right here, you can

[47:36] see your opening kiosk has all your clothes laid out for you, and then each hole has its own

[47:43] little, has

[47:47] a basket on it like this, they'll have teeth pads, these are just some examples

[47:53] from different forces around.

[47:57] So if you have usually looks like this for this year we wouldn't do concrete, we would want to do turf so that we can actually move them depending on the bicycle trails that we put in and traffic to see how close that kind of stuff and then after the first year we would go back into putting concrete paths.

[48:14] So that would be a bit of a different phase to it.

[48:18] This year we would be doing nine holes, not the whole 18,

[48:22] but they would actually design the whole 18 for up there on the Duncan Hill.

[48:27] It would start down, I felt the parking lot over just east of the temple.

[48:34] On 300, I want to say 300 east, there's that little blast spot that looks like the parking lot.

[48:40] That's where we're talking about starting it.

[48:42] it would go up to a whole number one, and then whole number two would be to clear up on top.

[48:47] So those first two goals would be tuples, and then out to that you're up on top

[48:51] where I'll abuse them.

[48:53] And so a couple of things that we've talked about with them is they would design the course for us.

[48:59] They would do all the signage for us, create the size, and I'll give you some of those.

[49:09] Here's an example of one of the signs that they built for another city.

[49:13] and so it shows where your key box is,

[49:17] shows where the basket is, with actual trees

[49:20] and everything that would be in that location.

[49:23] And they've already come down, it's been about 10 hours

[49:25] down here already, walking, but from here,

[49:28] to make sure that it would be a good enough

[49:30] portion of these old tournaments and different things

[49:32] like that, to bring in some revenue in that way.

[49:35] But it's also old enough for the public,

[49:38] just to go out and use it any time as well.

[49:40] And so I'll tell you another reason why I want to use them, if you, we have any disc offers

[49:47] out to you guys.

[49:48] If you've got already groups course.

[49:50] Ten more times.

[49:51] Okay.

[49:51] Do you like it?

[49:52] It's a pretty rugged course.

[49:54] Really rugged course because they haven't done a good job maintaining the trails.

[49:57] Their key boxes and signs are in front of the key boxes.

[50:01] We wouldn't play the other day.

[50:02] That's why I know that.

[50:03] So in your way, so basically they have so many of them sitting over there,

[50:08] I don't know if you're a wrecked wrecker or a parker who was just going to design it because

[50:14] they probably played a little bit of this ball.

[50:17] But it's not really an addition of course and they've already been design it three times.

[50:24] So that's why I want a professional to come in and help myself the first time.

[50:29] So here's more, just things that they've done, elevating you to, so a kiosk.

[50:36] So, just kind of, well, the wrong way in this mouse is backwards from our mouse.

[50:43] Yeah. So, they come in, they've had the hardest coming in and

[50:49] make different areas, different things like that. So, just a huge health course.

[50:56] And that would take our $5,000 to have them design the course, and then have them build the

[51:03] Each sign is about $100 each and then the bigger signs are about $500.

[51:08] So you're talking $1500 in signage.

[51:12] They design the course and they'll help build the course with us.

[51:16] And so there's pretty much work for free.

[51:19] When you think of the mountain hours, they're putting into it.

[51:22] Like I said, they've already put in 10 hours.

[51:24] They've already got 10.

[51:26] I mean, they've already got about $5,000 worth of baskets still made into us.

[51:31] That kind of stuff.

[51:32] They'll leave the catch I can have as we can move on quickly because they have to have

[51:36] a finish find out mid on October and on my paperwork, turn it in, and so that's why I'm asking

[51:44] you guys to approve that area, to have a disc off there.

[51:49] They also are willing to work with us with the bicycle paths that we've already kind of have

[51:55] ideas for, because part of their thing is they don't want a lot of their traffic, whereas

[52:00] with hair on the bicycle tracks as well. So they're pretty conscious of everything involved in

[52:07] making sure that that hill is treated right and the wind of a awesome discourse.

[52:13] So it could be used for more than one thing. It could be used for more than just

[52:18] it's got pointy. The five down three hours? No, the five down three hours has to be used just

[52:23] so we can still have like trails up there and crop trails. Yeah, so the walking trails and the

[52:28] And this all trails actually go hand in hand because we want nice trails to be able to get to the basket and that kind of stuff.

[52:34] Okay, so I have never played this golf. How many places have gone?

[52:39] So you take a frisbee and you're on that T.O. box.

[52:43] Don't call it frisbee.

[52:45] Yes, yes.

[52:47] I need you to understand frisbee.

[52:50] So you're standing here and you are launching your disc clear out up in here.

[53:04] So you can throw it and then you walk to it.

[53:07] Yeah, but they're all good and then yeah, usually they're about a par three, par four or four.

[53:11] So we do have some amazing shots on our spot where they can do some of those longer shots,

[53:17] where it would be a par four, a little more challenging.

[53:20] And all the other thing with this company, I mentioned they will design all 18 moles of

[53:26] the full plans all together, and on the geos it will show the first 9 moles being in place,

[53:33] and then they'll have kind of dotted lines where the next phase 2 will be.

[53:38] And that way when it's time to put in the phase 2 we put it in, and we can use the same geos

[53:43] so I can go have three designs.

[53:44] It's real, it's real that this and then you spend the next hour looking for it, but I have to play golf.

[53:53] Pull up local basket up there.

[53:56] So what you're doing is you're going that basket and you're actually going to have to change the thing down.

[54:02] So when this hits the chains, it actually develops it and then drops it.

[54:07] That way you know you're in the hole basically.

[54:11] So Lou, you're talking about the $5,000 grant.

[54:15] Correct.

[54:17] So we've got to do a matching percent, 30% of that,

[54:21] but a lot of that can be in any time which we've already got

[54:25] because of the baskets.

[54:27] So it would probably be about $1,000 of the most

[54:30] to do this project.

[54:32] For $9,000?

[54:33] For $9,000.

[54:34] Yeah.

[54:34] $1,000.

[54:35] Yeah.

[54:36] So it would be to design 18 of the finished 9.

[54:41] But did I read that the city career rule is responsible

[54:44] to construct the course?

[54:46] Did I read that right or?

[54:47] And what?

[54:48] And what?

[54:49] And what?

[54:49] And the company also.

[54:51] They will be talking.

[54:53] But I was figure, like my students will help

[54:56] the two I would rather done for the year,

[54:59] so probably not them.

[55:00] But we would have, like the idea of volunteers coming

[55:04] and that also counts toward very kind of matching,

[55:07] but we don't really need it to work way over

[55:09] on our entire kind of matching.

[55:11] So, there are enthusiasts who would have no problem

[55:17] drop everything you're on there and you can help.

[55:19] Yeah, so it's kind of like a problem.

[55:22] Yeah, it's not a problem.

[55:23] Right, right back there's one of them.

[55:25] Can you just get all of his kids signed up

[55:26] to already help to do this project?

[55:29] And so, yeah, so a lot of them.

[55:31] How many reasons?

[55:32] So I'm just, I teach six grade over at the middle school,

[55:35] like you from, but I've been here many times.

[55:38] This all, I've been playing this all since 2012,

[55:42] but I've been playing this all since 2012.

[55:43] He started the team, at least the amount of shots

[55:45] to get into the basket, right?

[55:47] That kind of thing.

[55:48] But I've talked to quite a few people in the community

[55:50] that have already said that they would be willing

[55:52] to volunteer for the work to help us put in.

[55:55] Number of people, we've got this all baskets

[55:58] in the middle school now that they're teaching this all

[56:01] a lot of kids, I think, in my class, I show them things and stuff, so the kids are getting

[56:07] in, there's about it as well, basically the plastic with it.

[56:11] Um, my real goal, this is something that anybody, any kid that knows how to throw at the

[56:18] S, can do on here, may take on 10 shots to get into the basket, but it's not necessarily

[56:25] The skill level, it's the getting out there with your family and other friends and things and a thing involved.

[56:32] It's a very good thing.

[56:33] We've got to see them play tournaments and things with kids from as young as eight, nine years old,

[56:37] to people in the first six, eight, and seven years of their play.

[56:39] So, I mean, didn't even get to be about like 13 years old.

[56:42] So, yeah.

[56:44] That's a problem.

[56:45] Okay, so let's circle on that to the parking.

[56:50] So parking, we've left down at the bottom of that hill, right where that flat is.

[56:54] I know where that is and there's a lot of space there.

[56:58] How many have grown is a problem?

[57:01] Yeah.

[57:01] The growth.

[57:02] The growth.

[57:03] The growth.

[57:03] That would be something we would have to address

[57:06] is that growth.

[57:07] That would be an issue.

[57:08] I think that would be a bigger problem than anything else

[57:11] would be in parking in front of us.

[57:13] I agree with that.

[57:14] If I can do that so.

[57:16] That would be included in a whole fair of larger plans

[57:19] for trails and parks and so forth.

[57:22] It's going to happen when you're without this car.

[57:25] The market.

[57:26] Yeah, the market.

[57:27] A lot of our kids are concerned with this car.

[57:28] Yeah, I don't have a bit of braking, ski resort.

[57:30] They have it.

[57:31] But this car, of course, they're just held in bigger than that.

[57:33] They also have mountain bike trails there,

[57:36] and they work together very well.

[57:38] And they'll be able to have a sign of that course

[57:39] around those mountain bike trails as well.

[57:42] So they've had experience with that in the past.

[57:48] The other questions.

[57:50] I think the biggest benefit is that we'll get families out together today.

[57:53] That's all.

[57:57] Thanks for the information.

[58:00] Okay, and like I said, we've got to move on quick because otherwise we'll just throw away the background.

[58:05] So, thank you.

[58:07] Thank you.

[58:08] Thank you.

[58:09] You guys can know when I'll hear you back from your room.

[58:13] Not that I'm talking about the kids.

[58:14] Well, you should say you're dead like a doctor.

[58:16] Mid-October, it's got to be finished like all my paperwork and everything has to be finished.

[58:20] I'm going to have to do it in the end of the set of timber I'm going to have to do the skull.

[58:24] Everything finished like the course.

[58:26] Yeah.

[58:26] Never done like that.

[58:28] No, never done like that.

[58:29] Every paperwork.

[58:30] By the end of the set of timber or the October I'm going to have to finish.

[58:33] The paperwork or the course?

[58:35] The course.

[58:36] I can't have the paperwork until the course is done.

[58:38] Oh, okay.

[58:40] So did I get some pictures of everything?

[58:42] A lot of them.

[58:43] Did you buy them at that line?

[58:45] We already did.

[58:46] We got them extended one year already.

[58:48] So we just lose my grant.

[58:50] Yeah.

[58:51] In the middle of our project, we don't want to come to the middle of it.

[58:55] Yeah.

[58:56] What if you were?

[58:57] Yeah.

[58:58] You were?

[58:58] That's what I mean.

[58:59] Type that line.

[59:00] Yeah.

[59:00] So I have your dome here.

[59:01] Oh, it's very time to join your stream.

[59:03] I love it.

[59:05] You used to know about however we have at the end of the year.

[59:08] I think that's our biggest concern.

[59:10] It's a little bit of a flavor.

[59:12] Yeah.

[59:13] Well, you're a city staff.

[59:15] I'm not planning on using the city word for support.

[59:18] I'm planning on using myself and company.

[59:20] and volunteers. So I'm not like I'm worried guys do on the

[59:24] trance. I have a lot of friends that I think you saw when I did

[59:28] and provolence stuff that I know very often at the

[59:32] bit like you said, the enthusiast, which I'll

[59:33] come down to the helicopter to. There's an

[59:36] off-spent in our city by the way. There's no off-spent in our city

[59:40] if we say yes.

[59:43] Well there's a thousand dollars lost that you'll

[59:45] I'm actually about $1,000.

[59:47] I'm probably not as part of me.

[59:49] It's running at the huge, yeah, yeah.

[59:51] Yeah, I'll make it in the next 48 minutes.

[59:53] I'm sorry.

[59:55] It's all right here.

[59:57] It's all right here.

[59:57] You did, Chef.

[59:58] The Bible is concerned.

[1:00:00] That's being able to have multiple uses out there. That's why there's multiple uses, I think, that's why we want to turn the T-pads, is so that we can make sure that they're donable. So that would be a turf like artificial.

[1:00:15] Yeah.

[1:00:16] Okay.

[1:00:18] And like I said, what are the nine holes that won't take as long to put in and things

[1:00:21] like that, right?

[1:00:22] You'll get a lot of faster cross-system styrofoam.

[1:00:25] Yeah.

[1:00:26] And the only thing we're not going to convert you is so we're going to convert you guys.

[1:00:29] The only other thing we're going to have to do is put the basket in and stuff.

[1:00:33] I'm going to put the styrofoam in and stuff out.

[1:00:35] Okay.

[1:00:36] Okay.

[1:00:37] Thanks for the interview.

[1:00:40] Thank you.

[1:00:42] Okay, the next item on the agenda is historic preservation draft ordinance.

[1:00:47] You know, there's for update, the K and Mary.

[1:00:52] Oh, okay, do you know what this is talking to you?

[1:00:56] If you want to see, I can start it.

[1:01:01] We had a historical preservation commission meeting, when did we have the K blood school last week.

[1:01:10] We have, I think, Hamilton who has not only a historical preservation experience, but he is a part of, of course, and has a lot of amazing contact with the Arctic community.

[1:01:25] Of course, a question, Miller, who has restored multiple historic care homes here.

[1:01:31] We've got Kate Crane, who is the daughter of the Utah Finding

[1:01:35] Hears representative on the committee, who, of course,

[1:01:38] does the U.P. maintain or takes care of the Pat House

[1:01:46] for the museum for tours and things.

[1:01:51] And then Terry Solino, who lives in Los Dejos,

[1:01:55] the Shinn, this short, that he also worked for years

[1:01:59] and the churches expressed by the things in the historical department, in Nalu, in Becky,

[1:02:07] and over several of them, the historical sites, so, and then, of course, we've got K,

[1:02:14] who's got a lot of good experience, so, anyway.

[1:02:18] It was really amazing, and they're very enthusiastic, and it's sent out what we can do in the

[1:02:24] I'm excited to use the history that we have to increase

[1:02:30] like our development and tools on the land and everything.

[1:02:36] So I presented to the City Council last month

[1:02:40] about becoming a certified government

[1:02:43] and making a national expert registered area.

[1:02:48] And that's their first priority right now,

[1:02:50] as a commission, is to become certified.

[1:02:53] That should hopefully have been very, very similar.

[1:02:56] The first thing that we need to do for that is you all need to pass the ordinance for it, which they've given us.

[1:03:04] The state has given us language that I modified for my entire, it's only a packet for a point of view.

[1:03:11] The

[1:03:20] language here is really basic.

[1:03:22] It's just stating that we're a circular government again, which we were a circular fund of the past, so it's not going to be a good issue.

[1:03:31] We just need a commission, which we have now stated.

[1:03:35] So, I believe in your next meeting next month,

[1:03:37] you'll be right upon this moment.

[1:03:39] But today is just for you all to look over

[1:03:41] and if you have any questions for later on.

[1:03:44] So why don't we need to do anything

[1:03:45] in terms of approving the goals?

[1:03:48] The goals is what I think the other thing

[1:03:50] that Mary and I want to pass through.

[1:03:53] So, for example, it kind of gets you to laughing on them.

[1:03:56] Yes, for the planning commission,

[1:03:58] but they had goals that are usually dictated by the state council.

[1:04:04] These are the goals that the preservation commission came over to themselves.

[1:04:08] And if you have any changes, reach out to Mary,

[1:04:13] pipes were high.

[1:04:15] But let me just go over them quickly.

[1:04:17] They have three main overarching goals.

[1:04:20] And the commission also is doubling

[1:04:22] as the sort of preservation committee for the general plan.

[1:04:26] And so these are the goals for the general economy as well.

[1:04:31] So there are things that connect farming for a certain property.

[1:04:34] I'll keep in the range.

[1:04:34] There are some renovations for residents.

[1:04:36] The first thing we notice is we have a lot of the sort of properties

[1:04:39] and a lot of people that come forward to keep them up.

[1:04:41] So this one is directly connected to that.

[1:04:45] The commercial and historic rich, the area of gold that we have there.

[1:04:48] That's kind of what those two plants are.

[1:04:50] Along with farming residents, there's preservation in Utah on a profit.

[1:04:56] that have most help with those kind of buildings.

[1:05:02] Their second main overarching role is the research

[1:05:04] community, not just buildings, but cultural ideas

[1:05:08] from our heritage.

[1:05:12] And they want to help create some traditional farmers market.

[1:05:16] Next year, they, through preservation in Tauzi,

[1:05:21] have suggested that if they need to use all the random time for store properties, they have reached out to us and said they want to do a bar of

[1:05:29] durers since we have so many wonderful store properties here, and it was work of course for us to do it. That way, riding will work in

[1:05:36] peace with experiencing the problem. Updated materials for store preservation better utilize our primary heritage

[1:05:46] government's cost for the technical by creating a program to invest in local

[1:05:51] and neural ours competition for these buildings as well as

[1:05:55] and these are all of the aspirational rules and that can be changed. Their last

[1:06:05] meeting is protecting the promote of the businesses. It's a little on our thoughts for a sort of

[1:06:09] preservation commission to work on economic things but they realize in their meeting that

[1:06:17] If we promote our main street and help that, get better, and preserve the world, that will

[1:06:25] also have level clearances.

[1:06:26] So that's easy.

[1:06:28] Any questions support?

[1:06:30] I have one.

[1:06:31] Yes.

[1:06:31] So, for the pioneer heritage gardeners, and I don't even know if this would fit into this or not,

[1:06:37] you wouldn't be talking about foreign events.

[1:06:39] Palaces, as we know last year, they put a Christmas flag as a name.

[1:06:43] and they can now have a big destination, right?

[1:06:45] Where people attend, people can go.

[1:06:48] I've just always thought that though

[1:06:50] a high-interference garden would be just so beautiful,

[1:06:53] you know, it was lit up with Christmas lights on the trees.

[1:06:56] If you place the families to go to bring the children

[1:06:59] or the footchills of the temple,

[1:07:01] I think it would also bring other people in.

[1:07:03] Just being, you know, families in other communities

[1:07:05] are always looking for places, you know,

[1:07:07] to go into the door of the Christmas light.

[1:07:09] So, is that something that could be,

[1:07:11] That's exactly what they were doing.

[1:07:13] Oh, that's a great idea.

[1:07:15] Sure.

[1:07:18] Also, the preservation you tried to come down

[1:07:20] and they did be to work down here

[1:07:22] in Kentucky, August,

[1:07:25] that it was July.

[1:07:27] It ended July.

[1:07:28] It ended July.

[1:07:29] You can see it came down.

[1:07:30] And it was the first time a lot of them did this down here.

[1:07:32] Most of them live up in the Crosshatch front.

[1:07:35] We went out to the town square.

[1:07:37] She happened to certainly

[1:07:38] and we came over and we toured this window.

[1:07:40] I was home here, you know, I went out just to see

[1:07:42] a tour of several homes up there.

[1:07:45] They were very, very impressed with their time.

[1:07:48] And with those preservation and just the location

[1:07:52] of all the historic homes there in the area,

[1:07:55] they had an idea that all of this was available.

[1:07:58] So they were highly, they were very, very impressed, I think.

[1:08:01] And these are the top, these are the reservations

[1:08:03] in state, which now are very eager to evolve

[1:08:07] from that kind of stuff.

[1:08:08] so they have a lot of resources for it.

[1:08:12] So it's very positive, it's good.

[1:08:15] So Mayor, answer your question.

[1:08:16] You don't need a formal option for this,

[1:08:19] but if you have any concerns about it,

[1:08:21] I'm not using that direction as a council member.

[1:08:26] Thank you.

[1:08:27] All right, we will move on

[1:08:29] if there are no more comments or questions

[1:08:31] said to continue in business.

[1:08:35] At our next meeting in September,

[1:08:38] remember we will be correcting a city ordinance that dropped the rear yard accessory buildings

[1:08:49] capacity.

[1:08:51] We'll do a public notice two weeks before September council meeting and for that.

[1:08:58] We talked about the parks pass and trails with Luke.

[1:09:06] Anything you want to add about the master plan update?

[1:09:08] the state tomorrow there is an open house at 7.30

[1:09:13] as you know this.

[1:09:15] If I hold sitting on a second floor,

[1:09:17] it's going to be, I present to the Council

[1:09:19] already just to keep issues analysis.

[1:09:21] But this is more of an informal open house

[1:09:24] talk with residents about that.

[1:09:26] If they have questions or concerns,

[1:09:28] additionally, there will be another open house

[1:09:30] next month, or at the end of this month,

[1:09:33] a ballot that actually pulls up the blanket.

[1:09:39] So that, if residents have input for those people to that one house,

[1:09:46] I hope we're getting some good participation.

[1:09:49] What about the survey?

[1:09:51] The survey also, we just finished with the EOSCAP project.

[1:09:56] We may not talk about 500 doors.

[1:10:00] I don't know if we're in quite a few hours.

[1:10:02] The game were a job, it was a good job.

[1:10:05] So we're looking about average responses for our open-to-go-love averages we can't.

[1:10:12] So I don't really know how can you still squeeze up into the grocery store.

[1:10:15] It's high-tech.

[1:10:17] It's okay.

[1:10:18] Or maybe it's fine.

[1:10:19] So is there a few more questions you take that on the city website?

[1:10:24] It's okay.

[1:10:25] So now I got up, and where do they go?

[1:10:27] They under the government's panel.

[1:10:46] There is a, yeah, just a reminder again, this E 911 rural health tax that will be coming

[1:11:01] please speak with your friends, neighbors, whatever to make sure that they'll be supportive of that because if we don't vote for that we will be paying more.

[1:11:12] Yes, quite good, Marty. County commission's due to the dropout resolution at 2 o'clock on March 18th, and that starts in the ball rolling for 75 days to get on the ballot.

[1:11:27] So just make sure that whoever you talk to, that they know that that's something we need to score, because if it doesn't pass, it will be worse for everyone.

[1:11:36] especially those of us that are living in cities.

[1:11:44] The September meeting will also go over

[1:11:48] the wildland urban interface known as Louis

[1:11:52] and that'll be reviewed on the September night meeting

[1:11:57] and then we already discussed the historical preservation

[1:12:01] ordinance will be reviewed and approved on the night.

[1:12:04] I did notice on the on the woody map that we had that it in the part that's in the woody area is very small.

[1:12:13] This would then be the boundaries of Manchester City.

[1:12:16] There's a very very little bit on the south eastern corner and then the eastern, the very very eastern part.

[1:12:23] Most of it is in the national forest of this.

[1:12:26] And I will say that that is kind of just a draft, which

[1:12:30] we actually have made for the area, if we'd like to,

[1:12:35] they kind of left it up so that it's okay on that.

[1:12:38] So we're going to open by that number before we

[1:12:42] will see what the event will be.

[1:12:46] All right, anything else on that?

[1:12:48] We will then move to Councilmember Reports of Bryant.

[1:12:53] I don't have any more in that part, so to that.

[1:12:56] All right, Jen.

[1:12:57] We shout out to our tribal bridge, cap ground again.

[1:13:04] We've attended the chamber election,

[1:13:07] and they honor the temple bridge, cap ground,

[1:13:10] or maybe cap ground out there,

[1:13:12] but they received the $20,000 economic element

[1:13:15] grant from the county,

[1:13:18] but they raised the chamber's health

[1:13:20] and something that obtained that grant.

[1:13:23] That's all.

[1:13:24] More kudos to the chamber as well,

[1:13:26] so kudos to our cap ground.

[1:13:33] They've already gave some nice changes for the matter.

[1:13:38] Mary, how many of us are going to leave office because we need to get registered for that?

[1:13:44] End of October.

[1:13:46] End of October, yes.

[1:13:48] October, right?

[1:13:49] It is October 27th and 28th, something is all right.

[1:13:55] Yeah,

[1:13:59] put me down for a figure we need to get, that register because the cost goes up in the

[1:14:05] middle of September, yeah, we're going to get the lower rate, for sure.

[1:14:11] Like itching in, yes, your day was yesterday when you went to get the National League of

[1:14:18] Cities and Towns day, 21st Century Girls Housing Act overview, this is the first comprehensive

[1:14:24] comprehensive housing access in costs by commerce in decades.

[1:14:28] Hopefully it's going through life flexibility with current programs that exist for housing

[1:14:33] to get into homes, to put into home programs, and it's going to be easy to do.

[1:14:37] Programs, they talk about, you know, what it does, it basically provides

[1:14:41] with prep for places, not in there in the age, but it does make some changes to

[1:14:45] hopefully make it easier for smaller, for more affordable housing to actually happen.

[1:14:51] And a lot of areas is cities and things where they need apartment buildings and multi-family houses and things like that.

[1:15:00] It was a really, really good thing to listen to, and we said, what they're going to do, grants available for cities to help with infrastructure, until they're working, and they did take, again, partnership, upreaction. There's, if anybody's interested, you can go to NLC for National League of Cities, NLC.org.gov. housing, and there's a lot of information about that there.

[1:15:25] And then I had a lot of time, I think it was all about that.

[1:15:28] Oh, he did go to the Dan Milfunk and about the fun.

[1:15:34] Well, it was a good job.

[1:15:35] It was a legacy about the navigation.

[1:15:36] A.J. and Mary and I were there.

[1:15:38] And it was fascinating to think that this man came in the mid-1800s.

[1:15:44] And he and his four sons, named Palisade Lightwood,

[1:15:49] with Horses, Newells, and Spracers.

[1:15:52] Like, they didn't have vacillations,

[1:15:54] got to say, did it with Newell power and horsepower.

[1:15:58] And that was his, you know, his vision was to have that

[1:16:01] beautiful lake.

[1:16:02] And of course, it helps with irrigation and health growth.

[1:16:06] Of course, the park right now is a little empty

[1:16:09] because apparently my name, the reason that it's linking

[1:16:12] is because it's years ago, he's went in trees

[1:16:14] all the way around the lake.

[1:16:16] Well, some of those trees are around 20 years old.

[1:16:18] They have to tear it in as they have on back to Mother Earth.

[1:16:22] They have created void and the water is speaking to those voids out where it's just off to going.

[1:16:30] So they're going to fix that.

[1:16:31] And that's what I tell the state is ending right now.

[1:16:35] It will be coming back.

[1:16:38] If we get more wind, we'll get better and better.

[1:16:41] Name.

[1:16:42] All right.

[1:16:45] Thank you.

[1:16:46] We will now open it up for public comment is you would care to make public comment, please

[1:16:54] Provide your name and state resident or non-resident and move it to two minutes. Please

[1:17:01] So you're welcome to come to play

[1:17:09] I just came back from the trip to

[1:17:21] an idea of course this is order scale greater, but to see guards at night in the light, the

[1:17:29] incision idea, it's just like that.

[1:17:32] Anyway, on another condition, I can show that I'm a member of the Constitution Party, I'm

[1:17:38] very conscientious and aware of, you know, constitutional rights for everyone here, and I

[1:17:45] I can talk to him in a castle a few weeks ago.

[1:17:48] I'm my concerns with the floppy campus.

[1:17:53] And I don't know if you look at that information,

[1:17:56] but there are some various serious issues

[1:18:00] with the data collection going on in the floppy campus.

[1:18:03] And in fact, a lot of the communities

[1:18:06] adopted on campus said no more in a way.

[1:18:11] We've got legislators that are putting in

[1:18:20] I was very concerned when I set up a phone camera, right next to the parents'

[1:18:28] video.

[1:18:29] It just sounds great from the nature piece of it.

[1:18:34] And I just find what's going on with that.

[1:18:37] And I just don't know if your word was going on.

[1:18:40] I don't know that Sheriff's Department has several vehicles that are mobile, ever has this

[1:18:46] thing in the same sort of thing, that election.

[1:18:50] Slides and concerns about it.

[1:18:56] Information like we're here with you, like we'll look at it and not look at it.

[1:19:00] That's several articles there.

[1:19:02] I can't share anything with you.

[1:19:04] You do some of the ideas about what's going on, kind of.

[1:19:07] Yeah.

[1:19:09] It was

[1:19:18] pretty jade when you returned.

[1:19:19] So,

[1:19:30] thank you very much, I just want to kind of look back and see what's going on.

[1:19:55] Just as a point of the education I wanted to talk to you about the roller coaster license plate,

[1:20:02] we heard that the Sampey County Sheriff has put in a two-minute tie.

[1:20:07] They also have a roller coaster that's going into whichever vehicle they choose

[1:20:12] and so we never know where it's at or when we are being surveilled.

[1:20:18] And this is just teaching you about the Fourth Amendment of X and June 29 and 2026.

[1:20:27] So just recently, the Supreme Court said,

[1:20:31] it invaded part of the reasonable expectation of privacy in the whole of its physical movements.

[1:20:39] I think you will find as you read through what Russ gave you and as you read through this you will see that this is a huge violation of our fourth and the right and we intend to invoke.

[1:20:54] Everything that we can do to stop this from surveilling people who are not criminals and they have no reason to be surveilled

[1:21:04] And we would like the City Council and the Mayor of Tutel to get it out of our city.

[1:21:11] And I have 38 signatures so far that I will be sending to you.

[1:21:17] And we will be gathering more and we hope that you will take this seriously,

[1:21:21] because this is a fourth amendment.

[1:21:23] My relation, thank you.

[1:21:31] Did you state your name in the system?

[1:21:33] I'm not a family member of the King of

[1:21:45] all cameras.

[1:21:47] I'm representing my family, the nurses,

[1:21:50] and I would say nearly 100% of the people

[1:21:54] have cracking the table the other night.

[1:21:56] Thank you, everyone.

[1:22:00] I want to say, I want to say that's in my cabin.

[1:22:03] It's not dear that we have a problem

[1:22:06] when it came to the room.

[1:22:08] It's okay.

[1:22:10] It's okay.

[1:22:12] It's okay.

[1:22:12] It could be worse.

[1:22:12] If there are anyone else that would care to be a couple of people, I

[1:22:20] think around the

[1:22:21] residents.

[1:22:22] Just two things.

[1:22:23] There was some controversy on Facebook, a month back on sidewalks, I believe, I didn't

[1:22:29] make a good response and I really appreciated it and the way the city handled that.

[1:22:34] I thought that was an excellent way not to engage in getting information out, so I really

[1:22:41] appreciate that. The other thing, just because it came up tonight, I am at a

[1:22:48] discolored call for I've been doing it since the early 90s. Brian, if you ever need

[1:22:52] to need somebody to go with, I would love to come. So a lot of time on me from

[1:22:56] course, and yeah, it'd be great how I'm here. And I'd like to know that the trails

[1:23:02] were walking, the biking, and the discolors. It's part of the DNA of the discol

[1:23:09] community to really embrace all of that because what we want is everybody to have a place where

[1:23:16] they can go, so discolors are used to waiting for people to clear and it's a great place to take

[1:23:22] kids and grandparents.

[1:23:25] Thank you.

[1:23:30] This is a third second, and I have a discol

[1:23:33] basket on my property, so if anybody wants to try it, you can do it.

[1:23:40] I have a deal we can go

[1:23:43] are six people.

[1:23:48] Is there anyone else that would like to make public comment?

[1:23:58] I'll move to my comments. I attended the LPC housing and land use advisory staff

[1:24:09] wrote this afternoon. And they were talking about some of the issues that they're pretty sure will

[1:24:14] will come up with a state legislature again

[1:24:16] and you probably heard the same thing Mary.

[1:24:21] Impact fees.

[1:24:22] There's an audit for this going to be done

[1:24:25] prior to the legislative sessions

[1:24:28] that see how cities are using impact fees.

[1:24:32] And I guess they want to make sure

[1:24:34] that we're doing it to improve the infrastructure.

[1:24:36] The reason we have impact fees for new development

[1:24:40] that is because we believe the burden should not fall on the current citizens to make an additional water tanks,

[1:24:52] the bigger pipes for the sewer system, that sort of thing, the development that is causing a need for more infrastructure,

[1:25:03] should be paying for that, and that's why we have impact fees.

[1:25:10] This doesn't really apply to us, but it was interesting to me that several HOA organizations

[1:25:16] where they made their own roads and whatnot developments to their own roads so they didn't

[1:25:23] have to apply to the city standards, then they now want the cities to take it on, they said.

[1:25:31] one of the men on the call who is a city planner who said he just put an overlay

[1:25:36] structure on them and tell them they're going to pay for it one way or another.

[1:25:40] You're not going to have the other citizens pay for it so they had some good

[1:25:43] approaches for dealing with that but one of the other things that was

[1:25:46] interesting is building inspection is going to come up again because builders are

[1:25:53] pushing to have their own building inspectors which is one of those Fox

[1:25:59] starting to announce issues. So I'm sure with all the people that are in the

[1:26:04] legislature who are builders that it will come up again, they're also talking about

[1:26:10] using AI for plummeting which was interesting to me. Anxation was the other one

[1:26:18] and the funds that are available, you mentioned that very for housing

[1:26:24] infrastructure. Evidently, Harman received funds for smaller owner-octet-pride homes,

[1:26:32] because what are the problems when zoning has tried to make more affordable and they

[1:26:37] make smaller loss than people just built bigger houses on the tiny lot. So it's still

[1:26:44] worth charging, you know, $600,000. Just a reminder, the U.M. case, that the summer

[1:26:54] I don't have anything else, and I don't believe we have a little session today, so I will

[1:27:05] accept a motion to adjourn and make a motion to adjourn and take it off on the...

[1:27:27] Thank you so much for coming, we appreciate your attendance, the city and your interest

[1:27:32] and the Adderstead City, and we appreciate you coming

[1:27:36] sharp for your kind.

[1:27:37] Thank you.

[1:27:38] Yeah.

[1:27:39] I got that screen here, but I don't know if you guys

[1:27:43] heard it.

Manti City Council Meeting

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