[2:44] Okay, it's 9 o'clock. Here we go. Welcome to the October 1st Mayor Opposite County Board of Supervisors meeting. Welcome everyone.

[2:54] I will note for the listening folks. All five supervisors are here.

[3:00] or C.A. County Council, Clerk of the Board, Deputy Clerk of the Board, sitting in with us this morning.

[3:08] Hold teams here. Okay, please stand with me, pledge allegiance to the flag of the greatest nation in the world.

[3:20] Again,

[3:29] one nation under individual.

[3:36] Thank you.

[3:44] Madam Clerk, do we have any introductions this morning?

[3:47] None that I'm aware of chair.

[3:54] Okay, all right, we'll move on to consent to agenda then.

[3:57] The consent agenda consists of items that are generally viewed as non-controversial and routine by the department.

[4:05] If the board wishes to discuss an item, it will be removed from the consent agenda.

[4:10] Move to the end of the time to agenda or at the chair's discretion, maybe take in conjunction with another item scheduled by the respective department.

[4:19] Otherwise, the consent agenda items are generally approved in one single motion.

[4:23] This is the appropriate time for the public to advise the chair of any comments to the consent agenda or to request that the board consider removing an item from the consent agenda.

[4:35] And if you're on the phone line, would like to make a comment this morning or any time that public comment is open, star five, we'll see your hand raised on the computer there, we can get you recognized for your comment.

[4:49] One note on the consent agenda, we will pull CA9 off for a correction and separate vote.

[5:01] Okay, all right.

[5:03] I'll open the Florida Public comment on the consent agenda.

[5:19] I'm Monica.

[5:20] Good morning. Good morning, Board.

[5:22] Monica Nielsen, Agriculture Commissioner.

[5:25] In June when we had our budget hearings,

[5:27] there was a concern about my glass viewing contract.

[5:29] It is fully funded, so this is the correct amount that we've received for the past couple years, and then also on my Pest Detection Contract

[5:37] This is only the core trapping, so this is fruit fly

[5:41] Spudgy mouth and Japanese beetle. We should I should be coming back with a and a

[5:46] Amendment to this contract or a separate contract for the additional CalTrap and

[5:50] Capra Beetle trapping.

[5:54] Sure. Supervisor Smokman's question. Thank you Monica

[5:57] So the, but the numbers that are in the packet right now are the correct numbers for today's purposes correct, okay, great. Thank you

[6:12] Steve

[6:15] Good morning board, Stephen for planning director. I just a quick note on C.A. 11. This is an appointment for the mayor posted town task force

[6:24] We'd like to thank the arts council for getting their appointment in place for the board to consider today and there's one more seat available for that committee

[6:33] So, we'll be moving that forward soon.

[6:36] Thank you.

[6:37] Thank you.

[6:50] There's a button right underneath the base of that, it turns to speaker on.

[6:56] On the base of the speakers, right in the middle, there's a little, there you go.

[7:02] Hello.

[7:03] My name is Matthew Fried from Kathy's Valley 4-H.

[7:08] I'm here representing National 4-H Week, which is from October 7th to October 12th.

[7:14] wealth, which will mark this

[7:23] 75th anniversary of 4-Hin.

[7:30] Mayor Boza, thank you.

[7:32] Awesome, thank you.

[7:47] Anybody?

[7:47] Oh, the meeting, yes.

[7:49] Meeting guests.

[7:50] So we have a hand raised on the phone, but there's no phone number for me to recognize you,

[7:55] so if it's you go ahead, make your comment.

[8:00] Star 6, unmute yourself.

[8:06] There you go.

[8:09] Hi. This is Katie at Mountain Crisis Services.

[8:11] I wanted to make a comment on CA5.

[8:14] for you all to proclaim the month of October as Ms.

[8:17] Ms. Bones Awareness Month, I always appreciate you all bringing this forward and I just want to say thank you and invite you all towards take back the night of it, which is tomorrow at 530 at Mount Chris Services office.

[8:30] So thank you all again and I hope you all have a great day.

[8:33] Thank you, Katie.

[8:38] Okay. Anybody else this morning?

[8:44] We'll close public comment. I'll bring it back to this direction.

[8:46] Any board members?

[8:50] That is Supervisor Forsyth.

[8:54] Okay.

[8:57] Let's turn our microphones on.

[9:02] See a 15, sorry.

[9:03] See a 15.

[9:04] There's Supervisor Forsyth.

[9:06] Supervisor Tozo.

[9:09] 15 as well.

[9:10] Down here.

[9:12] Okay.

[9:13] Go ahead, Supervisor.

[9:15] Your first lady first.

[9:19] I just wanted to mention how important 4-H is to the children in our community.

[9:28] They learned so much about responsibility.

[9:30] My family was engaged in 4-H from the beginning, from the last 9 years old until the

[9:38] graduate that I went through with FFA and that's another amazing organization.

[9:42] So I just wanted to mention how important it is to get your kids involved.

[9:48] lots of times it, you know, head, heart, hands, health and that goes along with the

[9:53] other items we have today with domestic violence and are getting those mammograms for

[10:01] these women out here. So I think it all goes together today. So get your kids involved and

[10:06] you guys keep up the good work. Nice job, Matthew. Thank you.

[10:12] Thank you, Chair.

[10:14] 4H is very important.

[10:16] Chris and I both have been 4H leaders for years.

[10:19] Recently, we're not now, but our daughters are 4H leaders.

[10:25] Our daughters were in 4H.

[10:26] My grandchildren, all my grandchildren are in 4H.

[10:30] It truly develops leadership and public speaking.

[10:35] And the work ethic, something sometimes,

[10:38] this whole world's lacking.

[10:40] And so it's really amazing to watch these young people

[10:42] show animals and be involved in every kind of project you can imagine. So I just want to say thank

[10:49] you to for each and the for each leader for doing a great job. Thank you. Thank you for that.

[10:55] And I want to draw attention to CA10, which is asking this board to proclaim the month of October

[11:02] 2024 as breast cancer awareness month and October 18th as mammography mammography day.

[11:12] This is a special one to me. My mother is a breast cancer survivor and

[11:19] It's really tough when when you have to do that so get yourself checked. It's I think it's free

[11:24] Is it still free out there at the hospital on that day? Am I an parent?

[11:30] Did you see anybody?

[11:32] No, okay, sorry for that. Still, it's worth the price of admission. Get yourself checked. Okay,

[11:41] action

[11:45] Supervisor Forsyth.

[11:47] You can't look to the right.

[11:48] I can't.

[11:51] I move to approve the consent agenda as presented with the minus of C-19, which will be voted on separately.

[11:57] C-19.

[11:58] C-19.

[11:59] Thank you.

[12:01] Supervisor Boat.

[12:01] That's all second done.

[12:02] All right.

[12:03] It's been moved and seconded that we approve the consent agenda.

[12:07] Minus C-19, all in favor say aye.

[12:09] Aye.

[12:10] Any pose?

[12:13] Any abstain?

[12:13] And the consent agenda minus CA9 is approved unanimously.

[12:21] Okay, Madam Clerk, CA9 has a whole slew of minutes and needs some correction.

[12:29] Yes, so this was my mistake.

[12:31] It's our Daniel Bonshew Clerk of the Board.

[12:34] All the minutes from March 19th to May 1st.

[12:38] You guys actually approved June 4th.

[12:40] I had not pulled them out of my queue yet for finalization.

[12:45] And so when I was creating this item, they still showed on my end-to-strafts.

[12:49] So I wanted to make it clear that those have already been approved, March 19th through May 1st,

[12:55] and we're just doing May 14th through July 2nd.

[12:58] Okay.

[12:59] Thank you.

[13:00] Thank you.

[13:01] Any public comment on this item?

[13:08] Pretty straightforward.

[13:10] Okay.

[13:10] It's a surprise for a second.

[13:12] Yeah, I'll move C9 as presented and as amended.

[13:16] Thank you.

[13:20] And I'll second.

[13:22] Then moved in seconded that we approve C9 as amended.

[13:26] All in favor say aye.

[13:28] Aye.

[13:29] Any opposed?

[13:32] Bless you.

[13:33] Any abstain?

[13:35] Okay.

[13:35] And the item is approved unanimously.

[13:37] Okay.

[13:38] Let's move on.

[13:39] Department of Presentation.

[13:40] This is for items within the jurisdiction of this board.

[13:43] and not on today's agenda, department heads.

[13:55] Seeing for planning director, I just wanted to send out a little reminder of folks to participate

[14:01] Friday at Planning Commission.

[14:03] There's a workshop one of the development code update.

[14:06] That's an important set of codes for the county.

[14:09] Just to remind folks that the board had a joint workshop on the 23rd this month with the Planning

[14:15] Commission in this old beat.

[14:17] an ongoing process until the code gets to a point where we can bring it back

[14:21] the planning commission can bring it back to the board for a consideration for a formal

[14:26] process. So sir, mind or out there shout out for that one. Thank you.

[14:30] Steve, could question on that if I may? Is that something that the North County can

[14:35] participate online? Yes, so it'll be similar to a board meeting be held here and they can

[14:41] they can come in and call in and that link is available to us. Okay, and if I could just ask a

[14:46] If you could send me a link to that, I will post that for the folks up there.

[14:50] Sure, thank you for that.

[14:51] No problem at all.

[14:52] Thank you.

[14:54] Excuse me, I'm confused.

[14:55] I thought the intent was that there would be community meetings in different parts of the...

[15:00] County including in North County. Yes, that is also part of the plan, and it is the intent, and we'll

[15:07] do that as well. But if anybody wants to participate, they can call in at any meeting that we

[15:12] have that available. Thank you.

[15:24] Anybody else this morning?

[15:31] Chair, if I may ask a question.

[15:33] Sure. This is board presentation from normally chairman or department heads. I notice there's

[15:41] And one that has not made an appointment or shown up for some time and has the auditor.

[15:47] And I wondered if we could extend an invitation to him today, perhaps maybe come after board

[15:56] recognitions, because we have a retirement to look at and some folks there, but before

[16:00] regular agenda, maybe we could extend an invitation for him to come.

[16:04] I think he owes it to the citizens of Marepozo to let us know where we are.

[16:12] Sure, if you want to.

[16:15] I'll summarize the four sides.

[16:16] First of all, Jill Lynch County administrative officer.

[16:19] An invitation was given for today for the auditor's office,

[16:24] and they had some unforeseen issues with payroll this month,

[16:28] and Luis, let me know that in the next week or two,

[16:32] at the audits completion, you will come to the board to give a presentation.

[16:37] I know we were looking at the end of September we're known to October.

[16:42] So, I mean, a 10-minute update would not hurt the citizens of mere positive, find out where the

[16:51] auditor is.

[16:52] I mean, 10 minutes would not take a lot out of his time, and he's just down steps away from

[16:57] this room.

[16:58] I will re-extend the invitation now and let you know the answer.

[17:04] Okay, thank you, sir.

[17:07] Let me ask a question here.

[17:11] Does anybody kept track of the dates that we've been given so far over the course of the last year?

[17:18] I'm just curious how many times and what the dates are that that's been pushed out?

[17:24] because we're now in like supervisor forcices into October and I seem to remember a January

[17:32] deadline February March June August September and do we have any thing that we could I think

[17:47] I guess you guys get what our point is here, we're very frustrated, and I agree 100% with what

[17:56] supervisor Forsyth says, I can see how building that he is in, he could walk over here.

[18:01] Jeremy comes almost every time, Shannon Hanson comes.

[18:06] We have a lot of the other directors here, and it would just be nice, I think, for him to

[18:10] address that.

[18:11] Thank you.

[18:19] So the CIO is again, relaying our desire to have a moment of his time here today.

[18:29] Thank you, gentlemen.

[18:30] We'll move on to public comment on nonagenda items.

[18:33] And this is for items within the jurisdiction of this board, not on today's agenda.

[18:38] Speakers are limited to five minutes.

[18:41] Please note that state law does not allow action to be taken on any item,

[18:45] not appearing on the agenda.

[18:46] But unless the action is otherwise authorized by a government code section, no conclusion should

[18:53] be drawn if the board does not respond to public comment on non agenda items at this

[18:59] time.

[19:00] And again, if you're on the phone, start 5, get your recognized for your comment.

[19:05] Floors open for public comment on non agenda items.

[19:14] Good morning, everybody.

[19:19] Good morning, John.

[19:20] I mean, it should be mandatory that this gentleman or lady, I think it's a gentleman, come

[19:28] once a month, 10 minutes, 15 minutes.

[19:32] We have presentations by a lot of other groups that come and spend half an hour, whatever

[19:37] 15 minutes and give us a presentation should be part of his job, should be in his, you know,

[19:50] to come and say, you know, we all pay taxes, we all pay your salaries, you know, it's like

[19:56] show me something. All right. Thank you. Thank you.

[20:16] Okay. All right. We will move on from

[20:21] public comment on on agenda items right into board recognitions. And this morning we're going to

[20:29] recognize Kathy Garrett, there we go now, we're getting the wake. We're going to recognize

[20:37] Kathy on her many years of service to the county and her retirement today.

[20:49] More and more.

[20:51] Good morning.

[20:51] So, Chris Bernard and time chief of Mariposa County Calfire.

[20:56] Senior on behalf of Chief Wardie. Unfortunately, stuck out of state, his flight was delayed

[21:01] multiple times and I know he reached out to you guys that let you know and he is very depressed,

[21:07] they can be here and when the extent is sorry for that, but he's going to try and listen and

[21:14] he told me you try to call in a possible, he's walking through TSA right now so I don't know

[21:17] that's going to work out.

[21:22] Anyways, I'll say a few words on Chief Ford asked me to speak a little bit on some of the stuff.

[21:28] He felt, and just wanted to get out there.

[21:31] So these are two forward words.

[21:34] So when I came in as a position four years ago,

[21:38] Kathy was my go-to, and four years later,

[21:42] Kathy still my go-to.

[21:44] So Kathy is the matriarch of our office

[21:46] and most everything runs through her.

[21:49] She was a person, our volunteer's ask for first.

[21:52] She was the person that made sure

[21:53] our processes stayed within county policy.

[21:56] She kept me straight, which let's face it's a full-time job in the cell.

[22:02] We went through a lot of change together at the county fire.

[22:06] She was dealing with new chief, COVID, new offices, and new thought processes, et cetera,

[22:12] on top of the new Oracle.

[22:15] So many changes for a person whose personality and thought process did not like change.

[22:22] One particular change we made together was recognition of the workload she and

[22:27] officer-sistened Kathy Diaz were taking on.

[22:30] They truly were doing the work of three people. Fortunately, we were able to promote Kathy and Kathy Diaz, while it's bringing in a new office assistant, Tracy. Kathy stayed true to herself and eventually got us trained up, well, Kathy and Tracy anyways, not so much more.

[22:47] There are many examples of her sacrifice to the department and every day having to remind her it's go home time at five o'clock and she eventually gets out of there around five thirty.

[22:59] One of our greatest examples of work will continue through the training of Kathy Es, who will be taking her leadership role in office and Kathy leaves our office in good standing and going to retirement with her head hill high and a job well done and thank you.

[23:15] So yeah, and also on my behalf, I came in two years ago and I had kind of no idea what

[23:23] I was doing.

[23:24] Chief Ford was helping me, but my every day go to West Kathy and everybody else is too.

[23:30] So just thank you so much.

[23:32] Thank you, Chris.

[23:32] Not Chief Ford is on the telephone, so go ahead, Steve.

[23:40] Hey, can you guys hear me?

[23:42] All right, good morning, Mariposa, from Denver, Colorado, on my second flight to Lake

[23:48] Anyway, I just wanted to be able to call in, I appreciate Chris being able to say those

[23:54] words for me, but again, I just wanted to reinforce how much Kathy's meant to me and to

[24:00] in the county fire department, you know, like we said, like it said earlier, like I stated

[24:06] Chris, you know, four years ago. She was my go-to. She has my go-to. She is what made everything

[24:12] ticked there. Everything ramped to her. She was when we were very first there. All acknowledge

[24:18] the fact that she was doing the work of three. Katie or Kathy Diaz was brand new just coming

[24:25] into the office. So she was being trained and then I would watch Kathy just countless hours.

[24:31] She would spend beyond five o'clock, just trying to make sure everything was straight in the office, make sure the process was being followed, trying to explain what agreements were to me, trying to explain to me why processes happened a certain way within the county, as I was still trying to learn.

[24:48] So, you know, over the years and like I said,

[24:53] over the years, you'll be able to show,

[24:54] it'll be able to show as County Fire continues.

[24:57] They work that she put in and the mentorship

[25:00] that she gave all of us and how she led us

[25:03] in that office, how things will continue to improve

[25:06] beyond what she's done.

[25:08] And I just wanna acknowledge her,

[25:10] Burt her work and the work that she put in,

[25:14] making everything the session planning for County Fire,

[25:17] making that all whole. And so again, like I said, I think she can write off from the sunset

[25:22] with her head held high. She did a great job. And I think County Fire is going to be successful

[25:27] and we're in a much better place because of her. Thank you. Thank you,

[25:35] Steve. Thank you, board.

[25:37] Okay. Let's take some public comment on this recognition. Is what we do? So any floor is open to

[25:46] public comment on this recognition.

[25:51] And if you're on the phone line, start five.

[25:55] Is it already pushed? It's on patience. Okay. Patience good. I'm the fire inspector.

[26:01] I love this lady. I got hired right before war did. I was eight months pregnant.

[26:09] She's been amazing throughout silly everything. Like he said, like she's been the backbone.

[26:13] She's been there longer than everybody else, but she's not that kind of person who's just like, I'm there for all the work stuff, but she's also there for life stuff in general.

[26:24] She's been that kind of person who my kid comes into the office running to her, you know.

[26:29] So it's been amazing to be able to work with her and have somebody who knows what they're doing.

[26:36] And that's so important in the position she's in because it's one of those things that people don't think about all the

[26:43] back work behind being a firefighter and she does all the behind the scenes. And I have been moving up in my career and

[26:52] getting all the trainings that I need, and without her behind me getting me in those classes and getting me in those trainings and making sure everything is paid for and everything is set for me to do those things. I would not be able to continue in my career and be where I am without her being there.

[27:08] I just want to say she's amazing.

[27:27] Rose time.

[27:29] Oh, Jeremy Brace Sheriff, I just want to say on behalf of the Sheriff's Office.

[27:35] And myself, obviously, congratulations, retirement is a great thing, but we've worked

[27:42] throughout the years, either side by side at some point one time we kind of held a portion

[27:49] of Ev County Fire, which was weird, but I would say always when I was a younger

[27:56] deputy and then in the management, if you ever had a pop into

[27:59] County Fire, Kathy was there, like they say go to, would drop whatever she's doing,

[28:06] help you out, and then as, you know, through through the years going through OES,

[28:11] and the different morphings of departments, she's always been there.

[28:16] I know our undershare of Kevin Packard has nothing but great things and great working relationship

[28:24] with Kathy as she is down there in the OES unit and again just the partnership with the

[28:29] Sheriff's Office and County Fire is just just like Ann or Cal Fire buddies is what the

[28:37] team work is, everything about when it comes to one mission, one fight and it doesn't matter

[28:43] if you're a firefighter or sheriff, when the disaster or the incident hits the road,

[28:51] we all jump in, but again, there's individuals such as Kathy that are behind the scenes that

[28:58] you may not always see, but to make sure the policies are followed or to make sure there's

[29:04] money in the piggy bank to buy the fire hoses, she's always a go-to there. So anyways, congratulations

[29:10] on your retirement. I'm behalf of the entire Sheriff's Office. Thank you.

[29:26] Steering for Planning Director, I just wanted to share the sentiment here for Kathy.

[29:33] I was able to get to know Kathy a little bit. Everyone knows this, but after the three mortality

[29:38] task force and the Maripose County Fire Advisory Committee was established, the planning

[29:42] department was working with the Fire Department on the administration of that committee.

[29:47] And it's a great group and Kathy spent countless hours working with me to make sure

[29:53] agendas were out and just hand in hand.

[29:56] And through that time, I also got to know her a little bit personally and it comes to find out.

[30:00] Or husband, Mike, who's here with us right now, Mike, goes to the beach a lot. He's an e-border.

[30:07] And it turns out, actually, Kathy, I hope that you have an opportunity to spend some time

[30:12] going to the beach with Mike now, and watching him out there, and he's not out there

[30:16] running around by himself. But I just wanted to make sure that everyone knows that Kathy did

[30:22] it. Excellent job, and I'll miss you from that. And I wish you well for your retirement.

[30:28] They have the plenty of parliament in myself.

[30:45] All right.

[30:45] We'll close public comment on that.

[30:47] I'll bring it back to the board.

[30:49] Supervisor Forsyth.

[30:51] Thank you, Chair.

[30:53] Kathy, congratulations on retirement.

[30:58] It's amazing.

[30:59] You are kind of an example of all the dedicated servants we have that work for the county.

[31:06] You're behind the scenes.

[31:07] You're the ones that make it all happen.

[31:08] And I really appreciate how you have been an example to not only the fire department, but even us here at the board.

[31:17] Anytime I go over to the office, you're always got a smile, help very helpful.

[31:21] So thank you and congratulations.

[31:26] Congratulations.

[31:27] I hope you can do everything that you've wanted to do for years.

[31:30] But I wanted to thank you for all your years of selflessness and your loyalty.

[31:34] you're leaving some big shoes to fill. I know that I know County Fire will

[31:40] miss you greatly as we all will. Congratulations.

[31:49] Supervisor Smolkel.

[31:53] I just want to

[31:53] add my thanks, Kathy. And I noted in the certificate of recognition that you

[32:04] supported and coordinated several major changes within the Maraposa

[32:09] County Fire Department, such as the implementation of two fire chiefs, two assistant chiefs

[32:15] and one share of all with different philosophies, work priorities, administrative needs,

[32:21] and operational urgencies that you ensured met county processes and policies.

[32:26] That is truly an accomplishment and for what it's worth, I'm working now with Jim Wilson

[32:32] again. So on Firewise Recognition and Pond of Recivation, he's moved back here. You've been through a lot,

[32:41] and thank you for managing all of that.

[32:48] Yes, congratulations, Kathy.

[32:52] It's always hard to let the

[32:56] good ones go, and whoever I didn't catch the name was stepping up behind you, but you got

[33:01] 40-day watch out for, so good luck with that.

[33:07] Okay, board, I need some action on this item.

[33:13] Professor Smolko.

[33:14] Somebody go.

[33:15] Okay, I moved that this board recognized the retirement

[33:20] of County Fire Executive Assistant Kathy Garrett.

[33:23] Thank you.

[33:24] And I'll be happy to second it.

[33:25] All right, it's been moved in seconded.

[33:28] We approve this recognition, all in favor, say aye.

[33:31] Aye.

[33:33] Any opposed, any abstain?

[33:35] and the recognition is approved unanimously.

[33:39] Okay, if you'll meet me over here.

[34:07] Hello?

[34:08] It's on.

[34:10] Okay.

[34:12] A resolution recognizing Kathy Garrett for her outstanding service to Mariposa County.

[34:18] Whereas Kathy begin began her career with Cal Fire as an office assistant June 1, 2008,

[34:27] and continued through July 13, 2015.

[34:30] Before being promoted to fire services assistant, July 14, 2015, and worked in this position

[34:38] through July 1, 2017, whereas Kathy reclassified from the fire services assistant to office

[34:48] technician in July 1, 2017 through September 30, 2023.

[34:55] She then promoted to executive assistant on October 1, 2023.

[35:02] And whereas Kathy will officially retire after 16 years today, October 1, 2024.

[35:10] And whereas Kathy has been a part of supported and coordinated, several major changes

[35:17] with the Mariposa County Fire Department, such as the implementation of two fire chiefs,

[35:23] to assistant chiefs, one sheriff, all with different philosophies, working priorities, administrative

[35:30] needs and operational agencies that she insured met county processes and policies.

[35:37] And whereas Kathy was the gatekeeper for the safer, grant volunteer fire membership program,

[35:44] she processed paperwork, oversaw county processes and policies were followed, tracked stipend

[35:52] spending and generated reports.

[35:55] And where Azkathy was a part of the coordination and

[35:58] processing for the Maraposa County Fire Fleet

[36:01] replacement from 2009 through 2010, as well as the

[36:06] building of our four new county fire stations.

[36:09] And where Azkathy was involved in the coordination,

[36:12] training and processing of many assistance by

[36:15] higher buildings that have brought and

[36:18] significant funding to the county over the course of her career.

[36:22] And whereas Kathy has been an active participant in the relay for life for life, representing

[36:28] the Mariposa County Fire team, and whereas Kathy has been part of many significant milestones

[36:35] with Mariposa County Fire, always contributing her knowledge and experience, such as the transition

[36:42] of the Fire Department Command and Control to Cal Fire.

[36:46] The Expansion of the Prevention Program, the first ever paid reserve firefighter program,

[36:53] the Expansion of Office Personnel, onboarded countless numbers of volunteers and paid

[36:59] staff over the years, restructured fiscal tracking in Oracle, and whereas Kathy has been

[37:06] hardworking and was the lynch pen to administration. She was a can-do will-do employee almost

[37:13] to a fault and always strives to ensure that all her fellow employees and departments were

[37:20] supported. And whereas Kathy looks forward to many more beach camping trips with her husband,

[37:26] Mike, spending time with family and friends doing various home projects.

[37:33] Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Board of Supervisors of Mariposa County, a political subdivision

[37:40] of the State of California, hereby recognizes and commands, Kathy Garrett, citizens of Mariposa County

[37:47] and wishes her a long and happy retirement. Passed and adopted by the Board of Supervisors, Mariposa County

[37:54] on the first day of October, 2024 by unanimous vote.

[38:24] Any family or co-workers?

[38:26] I want to come up and get in this photo.

[38:29] Come on.

[38:56] Test for 15 minutes.

[38:59] 15?

[39:00] 20?

[39:01] Okay.

[39:02] All right.

[39:28] Okay.

[39:29] Okay.

[39:31] Okay.

[39:31] You did it.

[39:32] You'll, it's actually just been a big hit.

[39:34] Okay.

[39:36] It's just out there in your hand.

[39:37] No.

[39:38] I'm going to go in.

[54:22] Okay, folks, we're going to reconvene. If everybody will take their seats and before we, before we get into our regular agenda,

[54:36] I'm going to let the CAO let us know what he heard from the auditor.

[54:44] Good morning, Joe Lynch, kind of administrative officer. I just want to let the public in the audience know that Luis Marcato, our auditor did respond that he will be at our Board of Supervisors meeting next week with an update.

[54:56] And just a reminder for the audience and the community, the auditor is elected by the people

[55:03] and is not supervised by this board or the county administrative office, so we can't direct him to come to the meeting.

[55:11] We invite him to come and he has accepted the invitation for next week.

[55:22] Okay.

[55:23] We will get into our regular agenda items and this first item is from Public Works.

[55:28] And we're going to receive a presentation from Pacific gas and electric regarding the progress

[55:35] of underground power lines, road restoration, vegetation management, and power pole clearing

[55:42] efforts.

[55:47] Good morning, Board Chan, a handsome public work director.

[55:49] I just wanted to do a quick introduction of Nathan Alonzo and his team.

[55:53] As you know, there's a lot of underground construction taking place in a PG&E vegetation

[55:57] management.

[55:58] So they're here to discuss that.

[56:00] We'd like to invite PG&E about quarterly to come up and let the community and the board know what's going on in the community.

[56:06] So I'll pass it over to Nathan.

[56:10] Okay.

[56:10] Check one, two.

[56:11] We're live.

[56:13] Good morning.

[56:14] Chair, penetrate.

[56:17] Board, Joe, Shannon, other Joe, and team.

[56:22] Nathan Alonzo, your government affairs representative for Pacific Gas Electric.

[56:27] It's a pleasure to be with you here this morning to give you a quick update on a number

[56:31] of items which you listed before we jump into it.

[56:34] I'd love to introduce Friend and colleague with me here this morning, Kevin, who's part

[56:41] of our under-grounding and restoration team, we'll be giving you some updates on where work

[56:48] stands here in Mariposa and hopefully get to answer some questions of yours in the public

[56:53] here this morning.

[56:55] So as this is a PG&U presentation, I always like to talk about safety, but because we are in

[57:01] the time of year that we are, yet to have a go bag in case wildfire breaks out or in case

[57:06] a significant weather event happens.

[57:09] Usually I like to really stress this in most of the counties that I represent, but I need

[57:14] not preach this to folks in Mariposa County.

[57:17] You guys are veterans in emergency preparedness and fire safety.

[57:22] So, things that we'll talk to you about a little bit about wildfire risk and where it stands today.

[57:29] Undergrounding, clean up in a road restoration.

[57:33] We'll touch within the clean up and road restoration items and differentiate between temporarily restoration and permanent restoration.

[57:41] And then we'll get into a big wildfire reduction risk effort that's underway now and has been since the beginning of August, which is our pole clearing effort.

[57:51] So, you've all seen our layers of protection, the bedrock of that, and probably the thing that reduces wildfire risk the most significantly, is our undergrounding program, a couple years ago our CEO committed to $10,000 of undergrounding, we're chipping away at it year after year.

[58:08] Mayor of the county has been a big recipient of

[58:11] undergrounding miles.

[58:13] A lot of that has happened in the Oak Fire

[58:14] footprint, as all of you have seen.

[58:18] And although undergrounding is the best

[58:22] a tool for wildfire risk reduction,

[58:25] there's a little bit of pain along the way,

[58:26] which is the road component of it,

[58:27] which we'll be talking about.

[58:29] But on overhead distribution, we have enhanced powerline

[58:32] safety settings, we have new technologies

[58:36] and diagnostics that go along towards helping us identify some issues like grids

[58:42] gop, which has been deployed throughout the county and then other situational

[58:45] awareness tools that we have like our weather stations and other tools on our

[58:51] distribution system. So a lot of hardening is happening on our distribution

[58:57] system. The county is this year receiving an actual will be receiving miles in

[59:02] what we call a covered conductor and that is going towards welfare risk reduction work

[59:10] but most of all hardening our distribution system within the county which will hopefully

[59:14] help reduce customer impacts and a lot of the adages that you have seen over the course of

[59:19] the last couple of years. So like I said one of the biggest tools for reducing welfare risk

[59:27] undergrounding with a 98% reduction in overall wildfire risk where undergrounding is deployed.

[59:37] So we are prioritizing undergrounding in areas that have the highest wildfire risk, or

[59:44] wildfire risk, or high fire risk areas, or detailed in the map there, pretty much your

[59:50] entire counties in that, except for some of the low-lying grasslands, but low-lying grasslands

[59:55] have ignition risks of their own.

[1:00:00] So, this is the map that we look at when we look to prioritize undergrounding work.

[1:00:07] So, so far, in 2024, 250 miles of undergrounding system wide, about 160 of those still in construction,

[1:00:18] and the work will continue over the course of the next several years.

[1:00:21] We would point out that in our general rate case, out of the 1200 miles that we requested

[1:00:31] over the course of the next three years, we were approved for about 800 of them.

[1:00:37] And so the CPUC believed that, under running, yes, is the biggest invest tool for wildfire

[1:00:45] risk reduction, but also a covered conductor provided significant wildfire risk reduction.

[1:00:49] at a fraction of the price of undergrounding.

[1:00:53] So it's a balance over the next couple of years

[1:00:55] between undergrounding and covered conductor.

[1:00:58] So what does the work look like here?

[1:01:01] So this year, 24 miles completed of undergrounding

[1:01:04] with five, four casted, or 24 completed through 2023

[1:01:09] with five, four casted be completed by the end of this year.

[1:01:13] And then over the course of the next about year and a half

[1:01:17] another 13 on the way and on the map you see where that work is happening and the overlap

[1:01:26] with the high fire risk area which like I said is most of your county. So the covered conductor

[1:01:32] or the insulated wire, big heavy wire and because of the big heavy wire it requires replacement

[1:01:39] of our distribution poles, the wooden poles over to steel poles. A lot of that work already happening

[1:01:44] in the county, 22 miles through the end of last year, three happening this year with 62,

[1:01:50] happening over the course of the next two.

[1:01:52] So that's where we see that balance between the undergrounding and the overhead conductor,

[1:01:58] still providing significant amount of wildfire risk reduction, and overall reliability boost

[1:02:04] at a fraction of the price, and this is us balancing the mandate that the CPUC put on us by

[1:02:11] they decided to fund our work.

[1:02:15] So another component of risk reduction is line removal.

[1:02:22] So line removal may be lines that are outdated, and we have found other ways to feed

[1:02:27] a customer or a business, or some of these may be what we call privately-owned lines that

[1:02:34] the owner has surrendered the infrastructure or have determined that they no longer can safely

[1:02:39] maintain the infrastructure.

[1:02:40] So we go and we take over a privately owned line or are able to streamline the way that other lines are operated and so four miles completed through the end of last year, three miles this year with a little bit more work underway over the course of the next two years.

[1:02:59] So,

[1:03:02] we are going to be submitting our tenure under grounding plan to our regulators in the coming weeks and months.

[1:03:12] And the criteria remains the same, which is a wildfire risk reduction in key areas where the highest risk exists and where we are able to impact the most amount of customers.

[1:03:24] So phase one is that by June we were supposed to deliver a preliminary plan of what

[1:03:34] 18 year forecast looks like to the CPUC and then by mid year next year I think we'll have

[1:03:41] the elements of a financial plan and it'd be ready for approval.

[1:03:49] So at this point I am going to

[1:03:51] hand it over to Kevin, talk a little bit more about the work and the restoration efforts

[1:03:58] being done around undergrounding and the roads here in the community.

[1:04:03] Good morning, everyone.

[1:04:05] Good morning. I'm going to stand up if you don't mind.

[1:04:09] So, my name is Kevin. I'm a construction manager with PG&E.

[1:04:13] So, basically, I handle what we would call a contract construction, which is just

[1:04:17] instead of PG&E doing the work, obviously, we have limited resources when it comes to

[1:04:21] how much we can actually do is to be contract to work out, and those are the people that

[1:04:25] actually come and do the work for us.

[1:04:29] So basically we've got going on here.

[1:04:32] This is sort of the, I guess you call it the path to construction, right?

[1:04:35] So scoping surveying, which is what we do for those you've seen this out there before we actually

[1:04:39] get on site.

[1:04:40] It's a bunch of stakes, right?

[1:04:42] And then a whole sea of yellow vests show up, and everybody's running around looking

[1:04:46] at stuff.

[1:04:47] So that's when we get scoping surveying.

[1:04:49] The design aspect, that's all office stuff where they hand basically built a job package for us and tell us how we're going to build a system.

[1:04:59] So a pre-construction preparation tree work, it's all over the hat team, probably since it's last two years, right?

[1:05:04] People come, we have a whole bunch of people come out.

[1:05:07] Basically, anything that's going to be in the way we take out the way, right?

[1:05:10] And then, so that's separate from regular vegetation work that's done by PG&E.

[1:05:16] So basically construction and plan outages, I mean that's two to three three, you know, they put all these time firms in there, but they really can't depend on the project.

[1:05:24] So typically we go about a three month construction window, sometimes it can go as much as six months, just depending on how big the job is.

[1:05:32] So trenches and solo equipment energize, so basically it's.

[1:05:37] We dig trenches.

[1:05:39] We put the equipment in the ground, we set paths, and then it starts a whole

[1:05:43] other section of construction, or it's actually de-energizing what's

[1:05:47] originally there and taking everything out.

[1:05:49] So what we've seen before is we have trenches in the road.

[1:05:52] We do temporary restoration, which can be like coal patch, or cutback as we call it.

[1:05:58] Hot makes the asphalt, which is basically all you're doing is covering the trench with

[1:06:01] the temporary surface, just to make sure it doesn't get destroyed.

[1:06:06] You know, we can't, there's certain things we can do and we can't do, but basically temporary asphalt goes down, so it's a patch, and then as soon as the job is

[1:06:15] We're cutting call it mostly done, so any heavy equipment we have in there anything like that

[1:06:20] We're going to save final restoration until all that work is complete because we don't want to put new asphalt down and then destroy it all with heavy equipment when we're taking all the rest of the stuff out

[1:06:31] So, that's typically, we try to get it done the same year, the plan for our program is

[1:06:38] to be constructed, wrecked out in restored in one season, right?

[1:06:45] So, typically we're going for Halloween as sort of like our cutoff date, no matter what.

[1:06:52] So, it doesn't always work out, temperatures get too low.

[1:06:54] We can't actually put it as fully in and meet the county standards for that.

[1:06:58] So that's typically a way until spring of the next year to do that final restoration.

[1:07:02] So we need a post construction here, which anybody who saw trying go, right?

[1:07:07] We're still in post construction and we're some of those jobs have had done for a year, right?

[1:07:12] So it's not always a real easy thing to do and so hopefully we're in the home stretch

[1:07:19] now so we should be done in two weeks with everything out there post construction.

[1:07:24] So what you're seeing now is the interim right, so on your left side, right, that's the temporary restoration.

[1:07:30] So we're just trenching, put in a slurry or rock or whatever, engineer material is in there, and then put in temporary asphalt on top of it. So on the right hand side, the left window you're seeing was just what we call a trench restoration overlay, where it's just, let's say there's a eight inch trench in the center of that T-cut and then basically we're just filling in around it.

[1:07:54] It's the further you go to the right, it's basically, it's a full trench, I don't know if that's

[1:07:58] sorry, I can't really tell by the picture.

[1:08:03] But, you know, all the way to the right, you basically got it for in the shoulder, right, we have to restore a certain amount of footage to the shoulder.

[1:08:12] So that's typically out here, it just kind of depends.

[1:08:15] We have based all that up by a pavement condition index, that's provided by the county.

[1:08:18] We figure out what the restoration plan is going to be and how much pavement we're going to do.

[1:08:22] This is actually a sort of an overview on what we've done so far.

[1:08:27] And so let's say all triangle-dara jersey-dale.

[1:08:29] That was all projects from last year.

[1:08:32] Carson's was done this year.

[1:08:34] And we're locking some of the oaks that's, I'm not sure,

[1:08:37] that was general construction did that on our side,

[1:08:39] so I'm not sure if that got done this year or last year.

[1:08:42] But that's, so for the most part,

[1:08:44] everything we have on the lower right triangle jersey-dale-dara.

[1:08:47] All that has been paved with the exception of Dara,

[1:08:51] where there's still waitin' on some chipsil

[1:08:55] and slurry for the rest of triangle

[1:08:58] that is basically that's what's left to complete,

[1:09:00] but all the hot mix, that's all to down.

[1:09:02] All the trinch and asphalt that was supposed to be done

[1:09:06] is done and basically now we're just waiting on the finals,

[1:09:09] which is striping and slurry and stuff like that.

[1:09:15] That's all I got, thank you.

[1:09:17] Thank you Kevin.

[1:09:19] Now we'll jump into Polklering here within the county.

[1:09:22] So, Polklering was done with the mind that this year we have experienced significantly

[1:09:29] longer duration of high temperatures as compared to last year.

[1:09:34] With that, fuel moisture has plummeted and the possibility and risk of ignition has dramatically increased.

[1:09:45] I don't think I need to make that point too much here to this county after the early summer

[1:09:52] and early fall that we are experiencing now.

[1:09:56] So yeah, it's significantly more risky this year when it comes to vegetation and ignition

[1:10:04] risk.

[1:10:06] So, doing a little bit more on RN to help reduce the possibility of any ignition, our board

[1:10:13] directors and our leadership came up with a plan where we will be doing pole clearing efforts

[1:10:21] around distribution poles in high fire threat areas throughout our service territory.

[1:10:26] So what does that look like?

[1:10:28] So beginning in August, I think I called each of you individually.

[1:10:32] We're sending out the equivalent of a heavy duty gardening crew to go out and clear out the

[1:10:36] area within a ten-foot radius of all of our distribution poles.

[1:10:42] So there's some pictures there that show you what it looks like the before and after on the before end

[1:10:48] If that vegetation that one looks decently green, but if it's a little bit drier the possibility of

[1:10:54] ignition or the risk of ignition if any sparking happens

[1:10:58] could lead to

[1:11:01] to a fire

[1:11:02] Whereas the after as you see if there's nothing there, then you significantly reduce the risk

[1:11:08] So, Argoal was to do that in high five or third areas with most of the county here being either in a tier two or a tier three.

[1:11:15] This was a very needed and I think worthwhile effort here in Mariposa.

[1:11:22] So, Argoal was at 2,600 power line poles here within the county.

[1:11:27] Almost all of them have been completed as of September 10th.

[1:11:32] So, I think by now we probably hit that 2,600.

[1:11:36] and the work is taking place in the communities listed here, and obviously our data

[1:11:41] people don't know that Grovelin is not within Mayor Posit County. We will forgive them

[1:11:45] for that because I don't think there's any Mayor Posit County residents with a Grovelin address

[1:11:50] unless I'm wrong. But yeah, those are the communities where this work is happening.

[1:11:57] And then we have our CAMZ files and maps that are available to the public and also to all of you

[1:12:04] on the board, available through our website.

[1:12:06] They show you are undergrowning forecasts,

[1:12:12] are line-hardening efforts, overhead-hardening,

[1:12:15] and then the line removal data as well.

[1:12:19] Then we have our data sharing portal,

[1:12:21] where we talk a little bit more about this work

[1:12:23] and make it a little more interactive.

[1:12:26] If you'd like access to the portal,

[1:12:27] we can get you access, just contact me

[1:12:31] and we can work through that, and it gives you,

[1:12:34] I said a quick snapshot and some data as to the work happening within the county.

[1:12:40] And then for the public we have our Wildfire Safety Progress map tells you about all

[1:12:44] this work that we're doing and gives you a snapshot of the infrastructure upgrades that

[1:12:50] we'll be making over the coming years and that's at pgenu.com for slash progress map.

[1:12:56] And now we'll get to questions.

[1:12:59] Okay, thank you Nathan.

[1:13:00] Any clarifying questions before I go to public comment?

[1:13:06] All right.

[1:13:06] I'll put the floor to public comment on this presentation.

[1:13:11] I'm going to put the comment here this morning.

[1:13:15] Marina, you'll have to come up to the microphone and address your question to the board

[1:13:19] and we'll get them to answer it for you.

[1:13:24] It's not that big of deal.

[1:13:25] I wondered what KMZ stood for.

[1:13:28] Okay.

[1:13:29] Do you know?

[1:13:31] It's a very elegant map.

[1:13:34] But I'll get you the definition of the acronym.

[1:13:37] I don't have it off of hand.

[1:13:39] But it refers to the map.

[1:13:41] A camsie file is pretty much like a 3D interactive file.

[1:13:45] And it's an ability for you to go into a portal and look geographically at where work

[1:13:50] is happening with different overlays.

[1:13:53] You can click on the left-hand side and we'll say, show me the work and show me where the

[1:13:58] high fire threat area exists and it will overlay the work over the high fire threat area.

[1:14:02] It's stuff like that.

[1:14:03] Yeah.

[1:14:04] Thank you.

[1:14:04] You got it.

[1:14:06] Thank you Marina.

[1:14:07] Okay, so just before we go any further, the public comment comes to the board, when public comment is closed, I'll give you a chance to respond.

[1:14:15] Perfect.

[1:14:16] Okay. Go ahead, Mark.

[1:14:22] Mark Norman, here in Mayor Pose of County.

[1:14:24] I was just wondering who should I contact?

[1:14:26] Get my property restored.

[1:14:28] Okay.

[1:14:38] And if you're on the phone line, and you want to make a comment, start five.

[1:14:43] Get you to see you recognize you.

[1:14:45] Anybody else this morning?

[1:14:48] Well,

[1:14:54] I control on F on F.

[1:15:00] Control on the backfill. After we dig the transfer to pipe in, fill it with slurry and then we cover

[1:15:06] it with asphalt. There's needs to be somebody responsible for quality control because some

[1:15:16] of the patches out triangle der road out that way were just lousy and bad. And I know most of

[1:15:24] is subcontractors, PG doesn't actually do the job, they sub it out to the people that do the

[1:15:31] trenches and connect the lines, but just in my travels from Derro Road down triangle

[1:15:37] to 140, some of them spots were like, you almost have to split the trench, or use the

[1:15:54] into putting somebody out there that has quality control or I don't know if the county has control

[1:16:00] of putting somebody out to say no we don't accept this you need to do it again put more

[1:16:05] asphalt run a roller over it something that kind of keeps it smoothed out it looks good now

[1:16:11] but it took them a while to get it to where it's good you know it's good to me you know but

[1:16:21] This other gentleman said, you know, the winter time was hot and cold and bouncing and it could just, it could pop up.

[1:16:28] The other complain is corner of triangle and dare road, the good and they were digging, that's how they're going to ask them, they put sand down there.

[1:16:37] But was that all about? That was like worse for me.

[1:16:42] And I don't know about anybody else but quality control to me was not up to par, even for me.

[1:16:51] Thank you Jonathan.

[1:16:51] Anybody

[1:16:58] else?

[1:17:01] No hands raised?

[1:17:03] Okay.

[1:17:04] I'll close public comment.

[1:17:06] Did you take notes?

[1:17:07] I did.

[1:17:08] I'll leave you a chance to respond to those questions.

[1:17:10] I'll go ahead and respond to the question on restoration.

[1:17:14] We can go ahead and get your information and make sure that we address the specific property that you're talking about.

[1:17:21] Be happy to do that.

[1:17:22] Jonathan, we're sorry that you had that experience.

[1:17:26] What I can tell you is two sets of folks have taken us and me specifically to see the quality and the issues around the temporary restoration work and those two sets of folks were the county board with supervisor foresight to took us out there to see the work happening and the temporary restoration in some of the issues.

[1:17:49] I think we were in his Jeep that had quite the bit of suspension on it, but we took that

[1:17:56] feedback back to our team and we used it as an opportunity to learn and to get better.

[1:18:03] So he did that and also the second set of folks that took us out there to see the work,

[1:18:08] the issues, but that also held us accountable and communicate with us daily are Shannon

[1:18:14] and Joe who are advocating not only for the board, but for all the residents who are

[1:18:19] experiencing what the work is like, the impact of the delays, the traffic diversion, but also

[1:18:26] the quality of the temporary reconstruction. So they have held us accountable and they're working

[1:18:32] to make sure that we deliver a product to you as a resident of Mariposa that is acceptable for you

[1:18:41] to drive on. I'll go back to the board and reiterate our commitment, which happened, I think a couple

[1:18:47] presentations ago is that we will return to you roads in

[1:18:51] like or better condition. And they will be like or better condition

[1:18:57] based off of meetings that we have with public works pictures that we

[1:19:01] take and the standards that we said. So that continues to be our

[1:19:06] commitment to you. But like Kevin has said in like Shannon and

[1:19:14] know, we're working hard, we're working safely, and we're working accurately,

[1:19:22] but part of us

[1:19:22] wants the rain for the wildfire risk, but part of us is thinking if the temperature

[1:19:28] start dipping quickly, it may delay some of our road work. So,

[1:19:36] that's

[1:19:49] the

[1:19:49] to your question about what KM Z stands for?

[1:19:53] It stands for, there's two different types.

[1:19:55] One is a, it's called keyhole markup language

[1:19:59] and keyhole markup language Z, meaning what it is

[1:20:03] is it's a mapped file that you can put a whole lot of data

[1:20:06] on, and why they come up with these terms

[1:20:08] is beyond me, because it doesn't make any sense

[1:20:10] whatsoever to name it that, so that answers your question.

[1:20:14] But I had a question, a couple of questions

[1:20:16] in a couple of comments. You guys are doing a heck of a lot of work up in Greeley Hill.

[1:20:21] Matter of fact, my power was out last week. You got it back on before the deadline.

[1:20:31] But in just a little constructive criticism, if I may about par west. And I've got a lot of

[1:20:38] complaints about these folks. And I've had interactions with a lot of them. They don't seem to

[1:20:43] customer service training that you guys do. I mean, you're pretty nice guy, Nathan.

[1:20:51] We've known you for a couple years and all the guys out in the field that I've dealt

[1:20:55] with from PG are all really nice. These folks here are really stand-offish. And I even approached

[1:21:02] them to ask them, hey, what are you guys going to do on, I was on dog town road? And what

[1:21:09] was the impact. And he looked at me like, how dare you even ask me a question. I said,

[1:21:14] look, I'm not just an average Joe here. I represent the folks here at the County Supervisor.

[1:21:19] And when I said that, it is attitude obviously changed pretty quickly. But it's just not only

[1:21:25] that, the worst complaint that I got was when the fire broke out down in Dom Pedro,

[1:21:32] one of our residents, actually a couple of our residents were down there being evacuated.

[1:21:37] and par west was down there and through a let's cigarette on the ground when

[1:21:41] over and snuffed it out in the grass. That's probably not cool. So I just wanted to

[1:21:46] give you a little constructive criticism on that that you can pass to the par west.

[1:21:51] It's telling to be nice. It's all made.

[1:21:53] But I had a question about, uh,

[1:21:55] undergrounding an overhead over, overhead hardening. I, I guess,

[1:22:00] you went through those pretty quick and I was, I wasn't real,

[1:22:03] depth it keeping up. The overhead hardening, what it can be in layman's terms tell me what that

[1:22:11] is. Overhead hardening is that insulated wire that we were talking about. So right now you've got

[1:22:18] the steel wire running on the wooden distribution poles that we've always seen. Hardening is

[1:22:25] it's pretty much two tiers. It's reducing the vegetation around the distribution poles.

[1:22:30] But also upgrading the infrastructure that is the distribution system in that area with the steel poles that are rated to be able to hold the insulated heavier wire.

[1:22:42] With insulated heavier wire, you reduce your wildfire risk, one, but two, you reduce your EPSS impact and the possibility of, you know,

[1:22:55] One of God's creatures scurrying across it getting zapped and they're being an outage or a branch falling on it and causing the outage.

[1:23:02] A lot of that's mitigated by having that hardened overhead distribution system.

[1:23:07] So the other question that I had was let me get back to the presentation here.

[1:23:13] It was about the polls.

[1:23:18] Is you guys, maybe you can find it quicker than I can here.

[1:23:23] It was a couple of thousand polls that you guys were replacing.

[1:23:29] Polklering?

[1:23:33] No, I thought you guys, what's part of what's doing?

[1:23:37] What do you call that?

[1:23:38] What are replacing the polls?

[1:23:39] What's the terminology?

[1:23:40] I think that's probably part of the system hardening work,

[1:23:43] where they're replacing the wooden for the steel

[1:23:44] And the steel so that it can hold the insulated wire wrapped in rubber.

[1:23:49] I didn't see him put in any steel around our place,

[1:23:52] uh, angry the hill. They replaced wooden poles,

[1:23:55] rightfully so that wood beckers had pretty much destroyed them.

[1:23:59] But, um, and that's hardening as well.

[1:24:03] So if they're replacing wood for wood,

[1:24:05] it may just be part of, uh, regular, uh, maintenance.

[1:24:10] Yeah, regular maintenance or regular equipment and replacement.

[1:24:13] Okay. All right. That's it. Thank you.

[1:24:14] I appreciate it, thank you chair. You got it.

[1:24:20] Thank you chair. Thank you. Excuse me, Nathan and Kevin for your presentation.

[1:24:27] I am interested in, I don't know, it's what you will see in your neighborhood. I guess it's the chart.

[1:24:35] It's page 336 in our agenda packet, but I don't know what the corresponding number is in your

[1:24:42] And this is in regards to...

[1:24:45] Yeah, so this is what Kevin covered.

[1:24:47] It's what you will see in your neighborhood.

[1:24:48] It's a process.

[1:24:50] And what I think would be helpful to me

[1:24:55] and to the listening audience is the conversations

[1:24:59] that you have with our public works folks.

[1:25:05] And once upon a time had a link to undergrounding,

[1:25:09] I tried getting in this morning and got an error message

[1:25:12] but that's something I can sort out, obviously, offline.

[1:25:16] But in terms of the process, so in that there was data on this is this is what we're

[1:25:22] going to be doing work here, this is what we're going to be doing work there, approximate

[1:25:26] dates, the type of activity that was anticipated, and I'm guessing that not only does our

[1:25:34] public work staff have access to that, but that they also are in conversation with you,

[1:25:39] because I recognize what Kevin was talking about, schedule's change, whether, you know, supply issues,

[1:25:47] whatever. And so what I'm interested in hearing from you and Shannon and Orjo, if they want to

[1:25:55] weigh in. But what is that look like when you say, all right, we're ready to go on this project over here.

[1:26:02] I'm assuming that you're in contact with our public works folks. So how does that conversation

[1:26:09] play out over time. So we are in constant conversation with them. One because they are our

[1:26:17] permit issuer. So we can't just go out willingly and just start work. So we are our project

[1:26:24] managers on the ground, Kevin and his team are in daily or sometimes multiple times a week

[1:26:31] communication with Joe and with Shannon to talk about what work we have coming up when the work

[1:26:38] starts, how the work is progressing, if there are any hiccups within the work, and then within

[1:26:45] the hiccups within the work is when we have conversations on, hey, what you're doing

[1:26:50] here is affecting this pocket of residents, the traffic diversion needed or the construction

[1:26:59] traffic is creating this issue. So all of that is happening in live time, and it's pretty

[1:27:05] much a conversation that never stops and the team here in public works is very, very direct

[1:27:14] to this and what the expectation is and what the needs are of the residents to minimize

[1:27:19] the impact that our construction has on them.

[1:27:21] So it's something that's happening in real time all the time.

[1:27:27] And I'm assuming that PG&E has standards to which they hold their contractors in terms of

[1:27:35] quality of the product or the, I don't know, you probably don't call it a product, but

[1:27:40] No, it is a product that we have to deliver at the end and we do have standards.

[1:27:45] And we do our best to put those in a contract to verbally ensure that the subcontractors

[1:27:55] are clear on what our expectation is.

[1:27:57] And the good thing is is that U.S. board and the Team of Public Works help us reinforce

[1:28:04] that to that subcontractor very firmly.

[1:28:08] And if the product that we deliver at the end isn't to the expectation of the county

[1:28:12] of the Team of Public Works, Shannon and Joe have never been shy about telling us that.

[1:28:17] So they make sure that we do right by them.

[1:28:21] Okay, great.

[1:28:22] Thank you very much for that clarification.

[1:28:26] Thank you, Chair.

[1:28:28] Thank you, Kevin, and Nathan for coming.

[1:28:30] I appreciate that very much.

[1:28:33] Yes, we spent a lot of time in a Jeep, and I knew every hole,

[1:28:37] and I made sure you hit them.

[1:28:38] All right, get them.

[1:28:40] So I appreciate that.

[1:28:42] And then we have sat around with public works,

[1:28:44] and some of your folks, your engineers, everything else,

[1:28:47] to explain our frustrations.

[1:28:48] And you have listened.

[1:28:49] It's been a slow process, but we're getting there.

[1:28:53] Kevin, I'm going to ask you some questions.

[1:28:56] One is, why not use, and I know it's expensive, but looking at the road repair and the

[1:29:03] aftermath and the time roads have been tore up, why would we not look at directional drilling?

[1:29:10] And I know it's come a long ways directional drilling, even hard rock that can get through it.

[1:29:18] I know it's sometimes slow at times, but it would save a lot of road work afterwards and a lot

[1:29:24] of roads being one lane, if you will.

[1:29:29] So why not, and I know they're using it up a paradise,

[1:29:31] I know they're using it elsewhere,

[1:29:33] why not on the East job, share and wear a poster?

[1:29:36] Okay, that's a good question.

[1:29:38] So, typically it's for the same reason to mention,

[1:29:41] it's expensive for one.

[1:29:43] To environmental leaders, a lot more restrictions

[1:29:45] with boring men you have with trenching.

[1:29:48] Basically, it comes down to like,

[1:29:50] all those things aside,

[1:29:50] let's say money wasn't an issue environmental stuff.

[1:29:52] we had figured out it was as easy as getting equipment out here to do the work.

[1:29:56] Well then, having qualified people that are licensed.

[1:30:00] To do it with PG&E is an even harder task. So just getting the people in the equipment is probably the biggest piece of that, that's, that's the most difficult part to get.

[1:30:11] Okay. So typically with trenching, it's, you get better production rates out of trenching than you do with, with boring. So there are situations where we have to do boring. And I think that's, you know, we utilize as much as we can, but it's just not really cost effective as you do.

[1:30:31] would project-wise.

[1:30:34] And then it's, I mean, just to give you kind of a basic dollar amount, right?

[1:30:39] Because this is not PG&E money we're spending.

[1:30:41] This is shareholder money, or this is all our money, right?

[1:30:44] Because everybody here pays a PG&E bill and click on myself.

[1:30:47] So this is, is rate payer money, and then,

[1:30:49] trenching is the best way to do it for that dollar.

[1:30:53] But it's, you know, just to just give you something that's supposed

[1:30:56] to cost $100,000 with boring, just in general,

[1:30:59] You can go from 100,000 to 300,000 in one minute because you get granted and you can't get through it.

[1:31:06] That's just the way the pricing is, so it's just not very expensive.

[1:31:11] I know it's expensive, but it just seems like to me it might be, in some cases, it might move us to look at it.

[1:31:19] But I'm not going to take it out.

[1:31:21] I'll bring it out.

[1:31:21] I appreciate it.

[1:31:22] The other thing is this open trench, I understand it's faster than everything else.

[1:31:27] I know on some jobs or most jobs,

[1:31:30] compaction tests are run.

[1:31:32] Was that done in this case on Triangle Road

[1:31:35] because we had some compaction failure

[1:31:39] on both ends of the project?

[1:31:42] So do you have an independent person

[1:31:43] coming in and doing compaction tests?

[1:31:46] Yeah, so I can't speak to what was done at the time.

[1:31:49] I'm gonna assume when we put engineered material in,

[1:31:51] so popcorn, slurry, whatever.

[1:31:52] If we use an engineered material that comes with a curve,

[1:31:55] right? We're saying that hey from the plant or wherever the wherever it's getting makes

[1:31:59] this coming with the properties saying it's going to meet this 95% compaction for

[1:32:04] we're on the road. So when we're off the road, there is compaction testing so we do now

[1:32:08] have like let's say from the in the future we have a pretzitor set up with our own

[1:32:15] compassion testing firm. So we actually PG&E would actually control where the

[1:32:25] Okay, because obviously we had some failures that had to be re-compacted in and that's so

[1:32:31] I was just curious if they were doing tests and I know you don't test every foot, but it's sporadic

[1:32:38] The other thing is is you were talking about the seal chip seal in summaries and I would assume a

[1:32:44] Sog that fog seal on

[1:32:47] a portion of it as well and then repainting is my correct. Restriping the road is that correct.

[1:32:52] Yes, that's right. So where is the chip seal going?

[1:32:57] Audera. If it's on one of the slides, Nathan Pooner bring it up towards the overhead map of all the

[1:33:03] different forward. Give me a second we'll find it here.

[1:33:09] There it is. Yeah, so.

[1:33:12] Audera right here. We're Darren trying to meet. There's a single lane chip seal that goes there.

[1:33:16] And then there's sporadically from there, down through triangle, there's sorry seal.

[1:33:22] Okay. That's going to be done. Okay.

[1:33:23] And then basically, I think we've just almost every piece of there or every section of triangle we can get.

[1:33:32] So to my knowledge we're going to restripe all of triangle, that's in our impacted area.

[1:33:36] Okay, great. Then I have some questions about covering poles. I've seen the dark

[1:33:41] of coloration on new polls, I know it helps to prevent

[1:33:47] critters from boring into the polls, but it seemed to also help

[1:33:53] during the French fires, some of those polls did not succumb

[1:33:57] to the fire, does it help with fire suppression apparently

[1:34:00] or not?

[1:34:02] So we have, so

[1:34:10] you're afraid of the polls that have that dark ray yet?

[1:34:12] Yeah, so that's called an Intamacent poll, and that's like a, if I can remember the right terminology, closed cells.

[1:34:20] So basically, once they get exposed to heat from a fire, all those cells closed, and that mass turns into like a big fluffy puff of insulation.

[1:34:29] So it did help.

[1:34:30] Yeah, so that's actually four fire protection. That's not for woodpecker protection.

[1:34:34] Okay, good because I want to say it worked during the French fire.

[1:34:38] It was good and then a lot of those poles and I've done it in the past four

[1:34:43] you folks, Foss checked the poles fire, you know, fire retard and on it and that

[1:34:49] seemed to help as well, so it helps with replacement when you have to come back in.

[1:34:55] Right.

[1:34:55] Yeah.

[1:34:55] So since the campfire, they said that PG&E has put a lot of money into what it's called

[1:34:59] So the basically PG fireman that go out and treat polls,

[1:35:04] clear vegetation, and all I had fired by my house two years ago,

[1:35:08] and PG&E was one of the first ones out there

[1:35:10] who ripped everything out of the way.

[1:35:11] So basically they're just protecting that asset

[1:35:13] for things that aren't into mess into, right?

[1:35:15] We don't have fire protection on an old line set

[1:35:17] and stuff like that.

[1:35:18] They come out and spray retarded on.

[1:35:21] Whatever that word to you, it was a flash check game.

[1:35:23] Very good.

[1:35:24] Thank you very much.

[1:35:25] Thank you.

[1:35:30] All right.

[1:35:31] But I wanted to go back to the pole clearing, the wrap we got on the poles, that fabric

[1:35:41] expansive stuff and the relationship between all of that and so like where you got this

[1:35:50] pole clearing in this photo, this is just a naked wooden pole.

[1:35:54] If you got these poles that are wrapped with the fabric or we still are doing this aggressive

[1:36:00] poll clearing? Yes. Okay. Here in Mariposa and I'm sure a lot of places these polls run right

[1:36:07] along property lines. And if something's got a wooden fence, this is within two feet of that poll.

[1:36:14] It's an ignitable situation. What happens there? They're going to leave it alone.

[1:36:22] If there is a property barrier like a fence, then yeah, we're not going to destroy that property

[1:36:28] area, that if there's specific landscaping that folks have, we're not going to disturb that,

[1:36:34] or if folks refuse the work, we're also not going to compel the work on this poll-clearing

[1:36:40] effort.

[1:36:42] So, we've had refusals and we've moved on.

[1:36:46] Okay, so people get notified not only for the vegetation management,

[1:36:54] but for the natural

[1:36:56] with regard to the gentleman's statement about property restoration, if folks, I don't know

[1:37:03] you're going to speak to him, but you know, if folks just let us know, we can put you

[1:37:08] them in touch with Nathan, if you've got a specific issue that needs to be addressed, get

[1:37:14] a hold of your supervisor. We can forward that request to Nathan and get it taken care of.

[1:37:22] Just put the goggles on and look one more.

[1:37:31] Okay. Thank you guys for coming up. Glad you made it. And it's a good presentation.

[1:37:39] Covered a lot of ground there. And I know my phone's been ringing lately that PG&E crews are going to be in your neighborhood.

[1:37:46] So I don't know if you're going to be cutting more. I don't know what's left to cut quite frankly on the Leonard Road, but maybe it's pulled clearing.

[1:37:53] Yeah.

[1:37:55] Or hard.

[1:37:55] It was another curiosity.

[1:37:57] So we've got all this vegetation management cut down.

[1:38:00] How do you decide which lines get the replacement of the insulated metal pole situation

[1:38:06] versus just the wrap and the poles and the vegetation down to clearance?

[1:38:13] What's the criteria for deciding which way to go?

[1:38:15] Which poles get the, um, which lines get replaced with the rubberized insulation?

[1:38:20] Oh.

[1:38:21] Those are the ones in the highest.

[1:38:22] So there's high fire threat areas to your one, two, and three, the priorities, probably the two or three, but even within two or three, there's subteriors of extreme, but then there's different tiers of extreme.

[1:38:35] So wherever the biggest risk exists, that's where we're going.

[1:38:44] Thank you.

[1:38:45] Well, thank you, Mr. Chair, Board, Joe, Shannon, Joe.

[1:38:52] Appreciate the opportunity to come and just share a little bit about what we're doing.

[1:38:55] I know that a lot of counties want undergrounding and once they get the undergrounding it's the journey we take together through the work and through the restoration.

[1:39:10] And this county has been absolutely wonderful to work with.

[1:39:14] I appreciate to all of the patients the understanding and the grace that you and the community give us.

[1:39:20] And that's why this is my favorite county and group of five supervisors to work with and if the other four counties that I cover listening, I hope they listen good.

[1:39:31] So, thank you all.

[1:39:32] All right.

[1:39:33] Thank you guys.

[1:39:33] Appreciate it.

[1:39:39] Okay.

[1:39:39] Do we need time to set up for health and human services?

[1:39:43] A minute.

[1:39:46] This next item is from Health and Human Services.

[1:39:49] We're going to receive a presentation by the Mariposa County Health and Human Services Agency

[1:39:55] providing an update on the Mariposa County Health Branch Community Health Assessment.

[1:40:49] Hi, good morning boards, CAO and County Council, Kim Ballard Deputy Director of Public Health.

[1:40:56] And recently, Mariposa County Health and Human Services Public Health Branch has finalized our 20-24 community health assessment.

[1:41:04] And I felt it was necessary to provide the board with an update, along with the highlights

[1:41:10] from the Chau, and a brief update on Public Health Branch accreditation process and our

[1:41:17] timeline.

[1:41:18] And therefore, I'd like to introduce our amazing accreditation team, who will be giving

[1:41:23] our presentation, in Rinder Tour, is our administrative analyst, also our infection prevention

[1:41:30] practitioner.

[1:41:30] And Erin Fisher, Brawitz, staff services, analysts, and our accreditation coordinator.

[1:41:39] And with that, I would like to pass it over to Imrender Tor.

[1:41:42] Okay.

[1:41:44] Welcome.

[1:41:46] Hey, Imrender Tor, public health.

[1:41:49] We'll be presenting some results from the community health assessment on this slide show,

[1:41:53] and for those that are not watching, but listening, you can follow along.

[1:41:58] It is uploaded on the Mirapose County website.

[1:42:01] So some chart data sources for the community health assessment included the county health rankings, which is accessible on county health rankings.org.

[1:42:12] Those include length of life indicators and quality of life indicators, length of life would be life expectancy or premature death.

[1:42:19] Quality of life is physical and mental health. This also included health factors.

[1:42:24] We use state and national data sets, that was the U.S. Census and Chiss.

[1:42:30] That's the California Health Interview Survey.

[1:42:33] We also connected to the Community Survey.

[1:42:35] We got 298 responses between November, 2023 and March of 2024.

[1:42:41] We also connected key informant interviews with partner agencies that are outlined within the

[1:42:45] Chau.

[1:42:49] Some highlights from the Chau are just a few graphs and tables for you.

[1:42:55] These are some of the strengths for Mayor Posa County.

[1:42:58] You can see physical activity rates are higher than other Californian counties.

[1:43:02] High school graduation rates are also above average in the state.

[1:43:06] In community quality rates are lower than the state, and STI rates,

[1:43:11] sexually transmitted infections.

[1:43:13] The rates are lower than the state, but the rate is increasing within the county.

[1:43:23] These are some questions from the community health survey

[1:43:26] that was conducted with 298 individuals within the county.

[1:43:32] The question was, what are the greatest behavior concerns children and adolescents face in your community?

[1:43:37] The top three choices here were mental health, substance use, and lack of social connection and community engagement.

[1:43:44] I'll leave that up for a second so you can take a look at that graph.

[1:43:57] Can I ask you one question while we were looking at that?

[1:43:59] Sure. The respondents to this question were adults, children, adults and children?

[1:44:07] Over the age of 18. Over the age of 18. Thank you.

[1:44:14] This was a graph breaking down social contact by age group. Social contact was defined

[1:44:19] by you could see at the bottom of the legend. I do not see or talk to anyone all the way up to

[1:44:24] five or more days a week that they have. Social contact. If you look at the age groups,

[1:44:30] 25 to 34, we're seeing the highest in I do not see or talk to anyone across all age groups.

[1:44:37] And you see a drop off of five or more days a week of social contact from the 55 to 64 to 65 plus.

[1:44:45] Again, I'll leave it up for a couple of seconds here as you can take a look.

[1:45:00] The next question was, what are the greatest needs of children and their families in your community?

[1:45:05] And the top three choices with a tie for third were mental health and substance use disorder programs for individuals and families, clean and safe housing, and tied for third safe spaces for physical activity and access to a pediatrician.

[1:45:23] A couple others to note there that were selected but didn't make the top three there were health insurance access to healthy food and connection to trusted adults.

[1:45:41] The county health rankings, website, also breaks Mariposa County's health outcomes and compares

[1:45:48] it to national and state average. So you can see that graph there on the right. Mariposa

[1:45:53] County affairs worse than the average county in California for health outcomes, but better

[1:45:57] than the average county in the nation.

[1:46:08] Some opportunities for improvement that were highlighted

[1:46:11] in the county health rankings were adult smoking, adult obesity, excessive drinking,

[1:46:17] access to exercise opportunities, alcohol impaired driving deaths,

[1:46:22] unemployment, flu vaccination rates, severe housing problems,

[1:46:26] mammography screening, preventable hospital stays

[1:46:29] and children in single parent households.

[1:46:36] We also have some artwork featured here from local artists.

[1:46:44] If you would like to access the Community Health Assessment,

[1:46:47] there's a QR code there.

[1:46:48] It's also available on the website, under the Health Services Division

[1:46:53] page of HHSA. I can leave that up if you want to scan it, but move on to public health

[1:47:04] accreditation with Erin. Hi.

[1:47:14] Hi, I'm Erin. I can hear me now at works. So I'm going to

[1:47:19] go over the chon the chip process really quickly before we break into some processes of

[1:47:25] accreditation. Right now we're in the prioritization phase.

[1:47:33] We're not doing this

[1:47:33] sitting down. So right now we're in the prioritization phase. We've done two

[1:47:38] chip meetings thus far. Thank you Supervisors. Welcome for attending those.

[1:47:44] We are currently kind of in the process of identifying what our action items

[1:47:49] are going to be. We've identified our priorities. Access to care and

[1:47:55] transportation, housing, and child,

[1:47:57] not a lesson health.

[1:47:58] Our top three priorities for this coming chip.

[1:48:03] The process of the John the Chips started last year.

[1:48:08] Prior to me being in this role,

[1:48:09] so I don't have the nuance of everything,

[1:48:12] but I can direct you to folks if you have questions about that.

[1:48:16] Our chart is obviously published now.

[1:48:19] We followed the map 2.0 process,

[1:48:21] which is what we're continuing to follow

[1:48:23] we move forward with the chip. Our next phases after our chip meetings have concluded is actually

[1:48:30] developed the plan and then publish that out to the community and of course takes a

[1:48:33] action on the goals that we set as a community.

[1:48:40] Let's go ahead and move it on over.

[1:48:45] So public health accreditation is kind of the thing that I'm in charge of doing right now.

[1:48:52] accreditation is a pretty extensive process. It's very heavy with regards to processes and

[1:49:01] planning and a lot of changes that are made on both a micro and macro scale. Right now we're

[1:49:10] in the preparation phase that are about seven phases of accreditation that include reporting and

[1:49:17] accreditation as well. We're very early stages. Part of the reason that we are in early stages

[1:49:22] is because we're working on the 2022 standards and measures. The 2022 standards and measures

[1:49:27] were published in January of 2022 and 1.1.5, which is the version of the standards and measures

[1:49:34] prior to that, closed in June of 2022. Currently there are only two counties that are accredited

[1:49:42] for 2022, but that's simply just because of the timing

[1:49:47] that the process takes.

[1:49:50] We have quite a bit of progress being made

[1:49:56] toward establishing ourselves for what is referred

[1:49:59] to as the readiness assessment,

[1:50:01] which is kind of the stage prior to application.

[1:50:05] There are several very intense plans

[1:50:08] that we have to work on.

[1:50:10] We have many of those.

[1:50:11] is just a matter of kind of getting things in order, crossing T's, dotting eyes and all that.

[1:50:19] The other thing I wanted to mention here, oh yes, we're also working with a couple contracting

[1:50:25] organizations that are helping us ensure that our plans meet compliance for both accreditation

[1:50:31] and help with agency guidelines as well.

[1:50:36] Having the chalk completed, we have already taken a huge step toward finalizing things

[1:50:42] for moving toward the readiness assessment and, of course, the application.

[1:50:48] I think that's it.

[1:50:55] Any questions?

[1:50:59] My parents' part, or I said, I've said it yet, okay.

[1:51:02] Thank you.

[1:51:06] So also, I just wanted to mention, if anybody has any questions or concerns or wants

[1:51:11] more information, please feel free to reach out to myself or the team even more than happy to

[1:51:17] provide you guys with the information. Thank you. Okay. Okay, anything before I go to public comment?

[1:51:26] All right, can all open this presentation up for public comment?

[1:51:30] Yeah, and if you're on the phone line, star 5, get your recognized for your comment.

[1:51:36] Any public comment on this presentation this morning?

[1:51:47] Okay.

[1:51:48] And I'll close public comment, I'll bring it back to the board.

[1:51:54] Supervisor Forsythe.

[1:51:56] Thank you, Chair.

[1:51:57] Thank you, Kim, for bringing this forward.

[1:51:59] And the good folks doing the presentation.

[1:52:01] Erin, it's been a while since we've seen you in town, so that's good to see you back.

[1:52:05] Another MCHS grad, so that's what we'd like to see.

[1:52:10] Could we go back to the slide that talks about what are the greatest behavior concerns

[1:52:15] children and adolescents face in the community. Yes, let me put up here.

[1:52:21] That's page three, three, four, thirteen in our packet. Yeah, there we are. Number one is...

[1:52:30] So have you shared this with the school district? We are in our check process right now, working with people from the school district. So we can

[1:52:40] are formal sharing this through the online uploading of the community health assessment and notifying them as well. But this information was presented to them.

[1:52:48] Okay, very good. It concerns me when we see mental health is a very high probability that folks are concerned about that.

[1:53:00] What are we doing to help the schools combat the concerns young people have particularly mental health?

[1:53:11] Do you know what we're doing as far as we're team effort county hand schools?

[1:53:16] So what are we what are we reaching out?

[1:53:18] What are we doing?

[1:53:20] I can speak to I see him in my role is right now at least in the community health improvement plan

[1:53:28] working on addressing these issues that were brought up through the

[1:53:31] child and making a plan to basically over the years address them.

[1:53:36] But in the past from our chip that was completed in 2019, this was also

[1:53:41] identified as a concern. And since then, we've introduced telehealth

[1:53:46] services for mental health at HHSA, so that does address that as well.

[1:53:51] There's more.

[1:53:59] Good morning board, CIO County Council, Sheila Baker, mental health director, and also deputy

[1:54:08] director for behavioral health and recovery services.

[1:54:13] I wanted to go ahead and speak to your question if I may regarding what is being done

[1:54:19] with mental health with the schools.

[1:54:21] So, currently, the schools have been awarded several grants and county behavioral health

[1:54:30] works with them monthly regarding what are they doing to fulfill their grant and so we

[1:54:39] do have some oversight with them on what they are currently doing.

[1:54:44] They have a mental health student services act over a five-year period for $2.5 million that they are utilizing staff.

[1:55:00] They have a vehicle. They have more vehicles in their plan, working on purchasing those vehicles in order to put mental health staff in all of the schools.

[1:55:11] that is North County and South County, that is in their plan.

[1:55:19] We also then on the county behavioral health staff have clinicians and case managers that work in the school seeing clients.

[1:55:30] So that is on their like caseload that would still be part of behavioral health services.

[1:55:36] So, they see them at the school sites, but they also see them at our family service center for behavioral health.

[1:55:46] Yeah.

[1:55:46] I knew some of that, and I appreciate the partnership we have with the school district.

[1:55:54] I guess my other question is, drugs and meth and fentanyl and all those kinds of things.

[1:56:02] tragic things happen. I know as vice principal, it was tough breaking that cycle up and

[1:56:11] there's always someone seems to be able to push it to kids and it's sad. But what are we doing

[1:56:16] to help the school district in that? So we also have our substance abuse team and we have our

[1:56:24] counselors, there's three on the team. They also can go out to the school sites and they have also

[1:56:30] on to presentations in the communities after hours

[1:56:34] and talked about nicotine opioids,

[1:56:38] substance abuse use, as well.

[1:56:42] So our supervisor, Todd Davidson,

[1:56:44] has personally done some of those outreach

[1:56:47] to the schools to get them some information.

[1:56:50] Also, they can come in for assessments

[1:56:53] and by calling 966-2000 as for behavioral health services

[1:56:59] and they can come in youth and adults for substance abuse assessments.

[1:57:06] Thank you very much.

[1:57:07] Yeah, you're welcome. Any other questions?

[1:57:13] Thank you, Chair.

[1:57:14] Thank you so much.

[1:57:15] Thank you for the presentation.

[1:57:17] I'm wondering within the survey with mental health.

[1:57:21] Do we get an idea of the main issues with mental health?

[1:57:26] was there an overwhelming reason or another for mental health issues?

[1:57:34] I'll have to leave that to the team to see what they are diving into.

[1:57:41] I think even in this graph, there's a couple that were mentioned, so suicide, lack of social

[1:57:46] connection and isolation.

[1:57:49] But beyond that, it's included in several different parts of page 8 through 12, where we mentioned

[1:57:55] mental health and address different points of it.

[1:57:59] But this graph does summarize a lot of what was included for a mental health.

[1:58:03] I can also speak on the suicide prevention awareness that we just have for September.

[1:58:10] I also want to remind the board of our track team.

[1:58:14] Track team is doing outreach and as of July 1st, they also have implemented the new mobile

[1:58:20] crisis response, which is a two-person response, which includes a licensed clinician, either

[1:58:27] in-person or available via phone, Zoom, or some sort.

[1:58:33] We also have a new licensed supervisor with our track unit, but we are heavily involved

[1:58:41] with suicide prevention.

[1:58:43] We just recently also did an all-county mailer, and that crisis line that people can reach

[1:58:49] to is 2099667000. We're very involved with messaging also for suicide prevention and then also if they

[1:59:00] want to come in for counseling we could do an assessment for them there and that would be by reaching the

[1:59:09] I had another question, too, on the opportunities for improvement page.

[1:59:18] It talks about adult obesity and access to exercise opportunities.

[1:59:25] Did we get any clarification on that?

[1:59:27] We have so many trails and everything here in the mountains.

[1:59:32] Exercise opportunities, did you get an idea of what was meant with that?

[1:59:36] I think we can kind of speak to that a little bit with regards to transportation being one of our key priorities.

[1:59:42] I think some of it is simply people can't access the areas they're desiring to actually try to work out or they don't feel like they have safe areas to do so.

[1:59:54] Thank you.

[1:59:58] Thank you chair and thanks for the present.

[2:00:01] I remember on the social contact by age group, why was the age group 18 to 24 excluded?

[2:00:10] That was excluded because we had a really small sample size of 18 to 24 years, as part of our survey.

[2:00:16] So, an aim for the next one would be to address that and reach out to that population.

[2:00:20] Great. Okay, thank you for that.

[2:00:22] And I guess, do you know, are we tracking the time

[2:00:29] expended on this project between the trial

[2:00:33] and the chip now of staff?

[2:00:36] Are we, is that going into Oracle as their specific account

[2:00:40] that this is being charged to?

[2:00:46] So, in Render and Erin, are funded through

[2:00:50] some accreditation funding.

[2:00:53] But for others who are participating,

[2:00:55] being no, it's not being tracked, per se, and oracle.

[2:01:00] So, okay, all right, as long as you're up there and maybe this is a question for Sidney,

[2:01:06] but you might want to lay out, why is it that we're pursuing this?

[2:01:10] Why are we pursuing accreditation?

[2:01:13] Well, I know we have been trying to pursue accreditation for years.

[2:01:18] Yep.

[2:01:19] All the way back to when Eric Sergeenko was beginning his reign.

[2:01:24] actually when Robin Reiter was, oh, there you go.

[2:01:26] Yeah, so you've heard that, so it's so that we can maintain a higher level of

[2:01:31] a standard that is being from the state, federal, state, and down to local level.

[2:01:38] And so down the road, it's going to also pertain to how we receive funding, our funding

[2:01:44] sources, as well, and so we're talking there about the probability of successfully

[2:01:51] correct.

[2:01:52] Correct.

[2:01:54] And it also gives us other opportunities to secure other funding as well.

[2:01:59] So we have better chances.

[2:02:01] All right.

[2:02:01] So improving the level of service and improving the probability that we'll secure additional funding.

[2:02:08] But it might be good also for us to start tracking our time as well.

[2:02:11] In some way or another just to see how much time we are spending on pursuing accreditation for for now and for future.

[2:02:19] Okay, thank you, there's a lot of data there and as is always the case, the devil is in the detail.

[2:02:32] So are you, I don't recall a specific conversation on this, but I'm serving on the child and adolescent subcommittee.

[2:02:42] And are we, is there data available that's broken down more by age group and then also by geographic area within the county?

[2:02:54] Can we manipulate the data to extract other information?

[2:02:58] Yes, we can do that based on the need from that arises from that group.

[2:03:03] So the conversation still have, you can let Erin and I know what you're looking for and we can provide that data to you.

[2:03:09] as long as it doesn't get into small numbers that could eventually be

[2:03:12] in a viable, we're not looking to do that.

[2:03:14] Yeah, actually, you might review that.

[2:03:17] I know what you're talking about, not everybody necessarily understands

[2:03:22] that why we can't get more detailed data.

[2:03:25] Yeah, so there should be a minimum number of the sample size that we're

[2:03:31] showing you.

[2:03:32] If it's too small, there's a possibility of individuals being

[2:03:36] identified through the topic we're speaking of.

[2:03:39] So if we say there's only five people experiencing a certain condition, it makes it easier

[2:03:44] for people between to understand who that might be or talking about, and we don't want

[2:03:47] to do that.

[2:03:49] So we're going to protect the privacy of those that participated in this survey.

[2:03:52] Super.

[2:03:53] Okay.

[2:03:54] All right.

[2:03:54] Thank you very much.

[2:03:57] Thank

[2:03:59] you.

[2:04:00] I just had a thank you for the presentation.

[2:04:02] And there's a very informative,

[2:04:07] and I go back two years ago before sitting up here, I wouldn't have been able to, this would have surprised me, being in the position and hearing and seeing and everything that goes on much better is it doesn't surprise me anymore, but I had a question about the slide that you have right before this one, which is the greatest behavior concerns.

[2:04:31] So when you guys do these surveys and I don't even know if you can do this, you're just interviewing or having adult respondents, is it possible to even talk to the kids to see what their problems are in their eyes?

[2:04:48] Yeah, it's possible.

[2:04:51] It does require specific training and then parental consent.

[2:04:58] That does get difficult because there's always ethical concerns

[2:05:01] when looking at data for children.

[2:05:04] So we haven't done it this time,

[2:05:06] but it is something we can discuss moving forward

[2:05:08] if that's an interest in the community.

[2:05:10] Well, I don't know that it is.

[2:05:12] I would, I leave that to the professionals you guys.

[2:05:15] Just because I want to see something doesn't necessarily mean that it should be done.

[2:05:22] But I'm thinking about who would know their kids better than their parents, probably no one.

[2:05:30] And I would think that they would know what their problems are, the things that they face.

[2:05:36] I just think of communities in my district like Greve Hill as probably the best example is the kids,

[2:05:48] you know, I see them get off the bus at the hardware store and they walk home and sometimes

[2:05:54] their folks pick them up. There's no whole heck of a lot for the kids to do. There's no,

[2:05:59] I mean there's a park that for lack of a better terms isn't very well suited really for kids and there's just not a lot for them to do so what do they do hike around in the woods

[2:06:15] because they're so isolated that's part of the thing and I guess I can see isolation on here but isolation to me I don't know whether that I guess what I'm trying to get to in a really crappy way here is

[2:06:29] Um, I would be curious to see the data maybe for the North County, um, like what supervisor

[2:06:38] Smolkeham was talking about.

[2:06:40] So if you guys could maybe hook me up or give me some direction on how to obtain and then

[2:06:47] disseminate that myself, I would greatly appreciate that.

[2:06:51] We can connect with you after the meeting and make sure that happens.

[2:06:54] Does that make sense to you?

[2:06:55] I mean, the folks up there being so isolated and the poor kids is, you know, well, okay.

[2:07:02] Well, thank you.

[2:07:02] Good job on that.

[2:07:03] Very well.

[2:07:04] Very well done.

[2:07:05] Thank you.

[2:07:11] Good afternoon.

[2:07:12] Good morning, still.

[2:07:13] Joe Lynch, county administrative officer.

[2:07:14] I normally don't comment during these times, but I did want to take a moment to say, you know,

[2:07:19] we have seen questions in the Mariposa Gazette, utter from community members about why

[2:07:24] we use so many consultants to do work in Mariposa County.

[2:07:28] And this chart.

[2:07:30] Has always been done by a consultant, and this is the first time it was actually done internally.

[2:07:35] So, my recognition for not only training up, but putting together a really fantastic product.

[2:07:42] And I just wanted to continue to know that we do have the capacity, and you do see, thank you, I'm Render.

[2:07:47] And Kim, Kristina, Sydney, the leadership in Health and Human Services, for assuming this work, doing it, and taking the questions from today to say,

[2:07:56] How do we make the next one better?

[2:07:57] We're learning as we go, but really nice jobs.

[2:08:00] I just wanted to say thank you for that.

[2:08:02] And it's not my place to talk during this,

[2:08:04] I ask for permission just to let you know

[2:08:06] that we appreciate you.

[2:08:08] And secondarily, just to note, to a writer, Poe,

[2:08:12] North County does have a disproportionate amount

[2:08:14] of mental health response issues compared to the county.

[2:08:18] So we do run those, we do, I used to know this stuff

[2:08:23] when I worked out the Indian Service.

[2:08:24] But we do run the data to find out per population where the biggest pockets of issues and a lot of it is due to the isolation, so we do have that data for you and we can bring forward.

[2:08:36] Thank you, Chair.

[2:08:39] So Joe uses up his one opportunity to speak on the first day of October.

[2:08:46] Okay.

[2:08:47] It is very interesting stuff.

[2:08:49] I did not know that we'd always done this outside,

[2:08:54] and you guys pulled it in, so good job.

[2:08:56] Who knows on that?

[2:08:58] Anything else from the board before we supervise or spot that?

[2:09:05] I think we're just, Erin,

[2:09:07] I think you're in an email exchange

[2:09:09] where we're talking about setting up sort of the offline subcommittee

[2:09:14] meeting for child and adolescent.

[2:09:17] But what I have asked for in another context is data that came out of the study that I guess

[2:09:26] and Andy Carter led, which had to do with food insecurity in Mariposa County.

[2:09:32] And part of what I've asked for along those lines, and I know I think somebody's talking to somebody.

[2:09:40] I think it's, it would work, it would work as talking to Kim, I think, or Mandy, somebody.

[2:09:47] Anyway, there was a lot of data that was collected in the under the auspices of a grant

[2:09:52] that we received from USDA and to the supervisor pose point.

[2:09:59] One of the bits of data that stuck out to me related to the levels of food insecurity in North

[2:10:06] County.

[2:10:06] So I think, I guess what I'm driving at here is that what we might all appreciate here on the board is what I'll call the aggregation of data on that pertains to demographic characteristics in our different districts, right?

[2:10:26] There's food insecurity, there's mental health and substance use disorders.

[2:10:33] I mean, I would like that for District 1.

[2:10:35] I'm a supervisor, I think everybody.

[2:10:38] What is our population look like along these areas of concern

[2:10:45] with respect to the overall health of the populations in our districts?

[2:10:50] So, those are two, these obviously the trial and the work that Andy Carter did are two that

[2:10:58] I'm aware of, I expect that there are other pockets of data that you're aware of within

[2:11:05] HSA and again it's sort of, what do you have readily available that you can use to describe

[2:11:14] more fully our populations and our districts. Thank you.

[2:11:21] If you want to mention that on page nine there is a breakdown of the document that you have.

[2:11:28] Of the survey respondents within each of the subcodes in areas of the county.

[2:11:33] And that we ever see what numbers we have within our survey.

[2:11:39] On page nine.

[2:11:56] The green there is the survey results and blue is the Mariposa County population for each of those zip codes based on U.S. Census data.

[2:12:11] Okay, well, that's definitely a start. Thank you.

[2:12:21] Anything else before we let them go? Okay.

[2:12:25] Erinder, Aaron, thank you very much. I was very very good presentation. Appreciate it.

[2:12:30] And thanks for the entire assessment. Appreciate that too.

[2:12:33] Thank you.

[2:12:35] Okay.

[2:12:39] This next item is also out of health and human services asking this board to approve the

[2:12:46] allocation of one senior administrative analyst position and at the same time

[2:12:53] eliminate one program administrator allocation in the health and human services agency

[2:13:00] effective immediately.

[2:13:03] Sydney?

[2:13:05] Good morning.

[2:13:06] Good.

[2:13:07] How are you?

[2:13:07] Good.

[2:13:07] Thank you. Good morning board, County Council, CAO,

[2:13:12] the Board, sitting for a Division Director of Human Services.

[2:13:16] So yes, before you, we are bringing forward the

[2:13:20] approved the allocation of one senior administrative analyst with

[2:13:23] Health and Human Services and eliminate a program administrator position.

[2:13:28] The program administrator position was previously in support of

[2:13:31] within our administration division and due to restructure.

[2:13:36] We are no longer in need of that position.

[2:13:39] However, we have identified a need due to our increase in our public health and behavioral

[2:13:45] health clinic times.

[2:13:46] We are now increasing the days available for services from two days to three days.

[2:13:52] And with that, we've identified the need for a clinic manager, which would fit within the senior

[2:13:56] administrative analyst position.

[2:13:58] And we are requesting that that be approved, so that the duties are not inappropriately

[2:14:04] being placed on other staff.

[2:14:09] Okay. Any questions for I go to public comment?

[2:14:13] Okay, let me take some public comment on this.

[2:14:15] And again, if you're on the phone line,

[2:14:17] star five, is there any public comment on this item?

[2:14:23] Not on the phone, not on the room,

[2:14:25] close public comment.

[2:14:28] Supervisor Tosso.

[2:14:30] If there are no questions or comments,

[2:14:33] I would move to approve the allocation of one senior administrative

[2:14:37] administrative analyst position and eliminate one program administrator

[2:14:40] allocation in the health and human services agency effective immediately

[2:14:46] and i'll second emotion thank you

[2:14:48] then move

[2:14:49] uh... okay

[2:14:50] you know it breaks my heart to see the dog die

[2:14:59] has been moved in

[2:15:00] I can do that we approve this allocation, this item as presented, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any pose? Any abstain? And the allocation and the

[2:15:14] eliminations approved unanimously. Thank you, Sydney.

[2:15:19] Okay, item number four. This is out of

[2:15:22] administration, asking this board to approve a side letter between the Mariposa County, between

[2:15:28] the county of Mariposa, and the Mariposa County Managerial

[2:15:33] Confidential Organization, AFSC in the E local, 2703 to increase the

[2:15:42] longevity bonus intended to be in the memorandum of understanding

[2:15:46] from November 1st, 2023 to October 31st, 2025, effective August 1st,

[2:15:55] 2024.

[2:15:58] Who's got this? Chris?

[2:16:02] Good morning, Board. Chris Furbrish, HR, Senior Administrative

[2:16:07] Analyst. So I won't get into the details too much about this other than it was what happened

[2:16:13] with the new MOU agreement. There was a 5% increase in what we call longevity payer, longevity

[2:16:21] bonus, and it's that type of pay occurs once every say five years. I believe the first

[2:16:29] level is 10 years than 15 and it goes up to I think possibly 25.

[2:16:38] But it's just a 5% increase

[2:16:40] that was an oversight and that's about it.

[2:16:47] Okay, we questions from the board. Is there any

[2:16:52] public comment on this item. Again, if you're on the phone, start 5.

[2:16:59] We need to recognize no public comment in the room. No injuries on the phone.

[2:17:05] I'll bring it back to the board.

[2:17:12] Professor, welcome.

[2:17:13] I don't have any questions or comments if no one else does.

[2:17:16] I will move that we approve a side letter between the county of Mariposa and the Mariposa

[2:17:20] County managerial confidential organization to increase the longevity bonus.

[2:17:27] And I will second the motion.

[2:17:29] Thank you.

[2:17:30] Okay.

[2:17:30] It's been moved in seconded that we approve this side letter.

[2:17:34] All in favor?

[2:17:35] Say aye.

[2:17:36] Any opposed?

[2:17:39] Any abstain?

[2:17:41] And the side letter is approved unanimously.

[2:17:42] Thank you, Chris.

[2:17:44] Okay.

[2:17:45] Board information.

[2:17:48] Anybody got anything for the good of the order here?

[2:17:50] Just real quickly.

[2:17:51] I just want to emphasize what Katie from Mountain Crisis mentioned that they're.

[2:17:56] take back the night is tomorrow night, August 2nd, and I think it starts at 5, 3rd.

[2:18:05] Yep, yep, no crisis.

[2:18:08] So please be there to show your support.

[2:18:13] I had a couple of things that I wanted to bring up.

[2:18:15] One is that we had our big thing in North County this weekend, the coyote fast and was a phenomenal event.

[2:18:23] great turnout and I actually got to be a for the first time ever in my life a judge in the

[2:18:30] car show and that was absolutely gonna be memorable for me. It was so much fun but public works

[2:18:39] Sheriff's Office, Cal Fire was there everybody and I just wanted to say thank you to all of those

[2:18:45] groups and for everything that they did and most may recall that we had a pretty devastating

[2:18:52] fire and colderville a few months ago where we lost six trailers and one of our residents.

[2:19:01] And I am proud to say, although it has been an awful lot of work, we are probably about

[2:19:07] a week, we can have a way from bringing those people home and the community came together.

[2:19:15] a lot of volunteers, a lot of nonprofits, and donations replaced all of the homes for them.

[2:19:26] And we are literally days away from the final step, which is the soil testing to be completed

[2:19:34] in the results, and once we get that done, these people get it come home, so it's been

[2:19:40] heck of a thing and a lot of folks involved. It's not the county's responsibility to do that or to

[2:19:47] do anything about that, but not a lot of people stepped up and will do some kind of an acknowledgement

[2:19:54] on that. The last thing I wanted to mention here is I tended to park service meeting some of you

[2:20:05] me know about that just recently in Groville and a couple of weeks ago and I got to say

[2:20:10] I'm pretty disappointed in how the whole meeting got presented.

[2:20:15] It was basically the part service was talking about the impacts that it's had on the gateway

[2:20:22] communities.

[2:20:23] We're one to all of me as another as well as some other counties, but they portrayed it

[2:20:30] you're going to get up and go and ask questions kind of like this venue and that was not the

[2:20:35] case. They came up with four solutions and you basically had to pick one and none of them were

[2:20:40] really something that I like. It caught the attention of Tualami County supervisors, their board,

[2:20:49] which they have now passed. I don't know what you would call that, but basically a resolution

[2:20:57] and disagreeing with what the Park Service has done.

[2:20:59] And I want to put that on our radar here.

[2:21:03] I have got a meeting this afternoon with one

[2:21:06] of the supervisors in Tualme County, whom I know quite well,

[2:21:10] to get there and put on it.

[2:21:13] I know, Joe and I worked on this a little bit

[2:21:17] as well as I met with Carrie from the Chamber

[2:21:21] and Jacob, the Visitor Center, and looked at all

[2:21:26] of the data as far as has it heard us or helped us,

[2:21:31] has it impacted us as a negative positive.

[2:21:34] And it's, I got to be honest with you,

[2:21:35] it's hard to disseminate that because, well,

[2:21:39] our revenue was up in top taxes,

[2:21:43] our top funding, the traffic was way down.

[2:21:46] So I don't know, but I guess my point is,

[2:21:50] and with that I wanted to bring up here,

[2:21:52] is they don't really seem to address what I see

[2:21:55] the core of the issue here, and that is the traffic. If that's their goal here with the

[2:22:02] Reservation System is reducing traffic. There's other solutions for that, you know, parking

[2:22:09] facility and busing people in, and I don't think we're stricting or limiting the number of people

[2:22:16] that get to visit this jewel that we have in our backyard is necessarily, in my opinion, the right answer.

[2:22:23] So I don't know what is, but I just hope that maybe the board would.

[2:22:42] I'm happy to have that conversation. I've actually spent a fair amount of time going through the background information through the vamp itself, the visitor access management plan.

[2:22:52] I, my husband and I also attended every workshop except one, he had a heart attack the day before.

[2:23:01] Workshop for the Merced River Plan, and I'll note that the Merced River Plan, also talked about capacity,

[2:23:08] as did the Tualami River Plan. So there is an end-the-management plan of 1980. There is a huge amount of data

[2:23:16] that underlies the work that's been done in the context of the visitor access management plan.

[2:23:23] And I'd have to go back in time, and maybe talk with somebody at the park, but they also brought in a consultant at one point in time to analyze the implications of changes, potential changes at that time in visitor access in terms of the economies of the surrounding communities.

[2:23:45] So there's a huge amount of data out there and I'm happy to work with you to bring any and all of it forward.

[2:23:57] I'm Marina, there's a hat under your chair.

[2:24:00] Okay, all right.

[2:24:02] Good deal.

[2:24:03] Didn't want you to get sun in your eyes out there.

[2:24:07] Okay.

[2:24:10] All right.

[2:24:11] We good.

[2:24:12] Moving on.

[2:24:15] We're going to recess into closed session.

[2:24:18] We've got two items to talk about in closed session.

[2:24:21] The first one is out of administration.

[2:24:24] This is a closed session conference with a labor

[2:24:27] negotiator, Mariposa County Designated Representative,

[2:24:31] is Shalene Bennett, the Employee Organizations,

[2:24:34] is the Mariposa County Sheriff's Association,

[2:24:38] and the Mariposa County Sheriff's Management Association.

[2:24:43] Any public comment on this item?

[2:24:46] Again, if you're on the phone, star 5,

[2:24:53] no public comments, so we'll close public comment

[2:24:55] on that item.

[2:24:57] The second item is from the Board of Supervisors.

[2:25:00] This closed session item is public employment.

[2:25:03] The title of the position to be filled is the county council.

[2:25:07] Any public comment on this item?

[2:25:12] Star 5, if you're on the phone.

[2:25:16] Okay, no public comment, I'll close public comment.

[2:25:19] And we will recess into closed session. I will report out when we reconvene at 2 p.m.

[2:25:26] We are in recess.

[2:27:42] Okay, good afternoon. We'll reconvene the Board of Supervisors meeting and I will report

[2:27:49] out on our closed sessions before we get into our agenda this afternoon on the first item,

[2:27:57] which was a closed session conference with the Labor Negotiator.

[2:28:02] Information was received.

[2:28:04] Direction was given.

[2:28:06] On the second item in closed sessions was public employment.

[2:28:10] Title of position to be filled.

[2:28:13] Information was received and direction was given.

[2:28:17] Okay.

[2:28:18] We got one item this afternoon.

[2:28:26] This is from the Planning Department.

[2:28:29] You want me to read it, or shall I just save that for you?

[2:28:35] Asking this board to authorize the county of Mariposa to join a statewide community infrastructure

[2:28:41] program.

[2:28:43] Authorize the California statewide community's development authority to accept applications

[2:28:49] from property owners, conduct special assessment proceedings, and levees assessments and special

[2:28:56] taxes to form assessment districts and community facilities districts within the territory

[2:29:03] of the county of Maraposa.

[2:29:06] Embodying a joint community facilities agreement, setting forth the terms and conditions

[2:29:11] of community facilities district financeings, approving form of acquisition agreement for

[2:29:19] use when applicable and authorized-related actions.

[2:29:26] Good afternoon board, ladies and gentlemen,

[2:29:33] thank you for hearing this item, considering this

[2:29:35] item.

[2:29:36] The planning department wanted to just bring this item to the board for a consideration

[2:29:40] because it looks as though to us that there is an opportunity here that would be part

[2:29:45] of a toolbox that would potentially assist with development when development comes in.

[2:29:50] In fact, it covers certain aspects of projects such as a recent project, a high place project,

[2:29:56] with there's a public facility sidewalk is it?

[2:30:00] Part of that project. And so, today we have, with us, will is going to take the lead on this, and we have the representative James Hamilton. He's from the Statewide Community Infrastructure Program. And so, there's a little presentation and just to go over a little bit, go through the presentation and go to some questions and answers, and would like to gather your input on this. And so, that being said, well.

[2:30:27] You all just pass it right to James from C.S.C.D.A. James, you own the line?

[2:30:33] Hi.

[2:30:33] I'm getting hearing.

[2:30:34] Yeah, we sure can.

[2:30:36] Okay.

[2:30:36] First, thanks well.

[2:30:37] And a good afternoon, Chair.

[2:30:38] My name is Edward.

[2:30:39] As I mentioned, my name is James Hamel.

[2:30:42] I'm a managing director with decals on it.

[2:30:44] Statewide Communities.

[2:30:45] Development Authority.

[2:30:46] I just have a couple brief slides today on the program to give you a little background.

[2:30:54] the California Statewide Community Development Authority or CSEDA or joint powers authority

[2:31:02] that the county is a member to actually, you're one of the original members in 1988 in August

[2:31:09] to 1988 that joined CSEDA and we're at joint powers authority that was founded by the state and

[2:31:16] so state association counties in the New York California cities. As mentioned back in 1988,

[2:31:22] we have over 500 and 30 members of the city's counties and districts. They wanted.

[2:31:29] And the county has participated in work with CACBA for anyone that was around in 2009.

[2:31:36] We did the proposition one, ACE curvisation one state was taking away revenues from all

[2:31:42] latencies and we secured ties, those receivables for the county and other agencies across the state.

[2:31:49] So that's a little background of who we are looking at slide one in terms of what this program is.

[2:31:56] As mentioned, it's called the statewide community infrastructure program or skip as we call it.

[2:32:03] We have 130 cities, counties, and special districts who are participants in the program and I'll get into a little bit more detail on who those are.

[2:32:12] across the state. As you can see, we have two programs. One is a pool program. We do three times a year, where we take projects all across the state ranging in size from 500,000 to about 2 to 3 million and pool those together for cost efficiencies and economic efficiencies for this because those types of projects would not have access to this type of financing.

[2:32:42] without doing a pool structure.

[2:32:44] So that's one program under the umbrella.

[2:32:47] Number two, if there's a larger project,

[2:32:50] five million in a bug, we can do it

[2:32:53] as a standalone financing for the county

[2:32:57] and we've done that for other agencies that across the state.

[2:33:00] Since the inception of the program,

[2:33:03] we've issued a little bit over one billion in bonds

[2:33:05] for 380 plus projects across the state

[2:33:10] throughout the State California next slide, please.

[2:33:16] So in terms of the program benefits,

[2:33:19] number one, what is the benefit of the county?

[2:33:22] As mentioned briefly, this is a tool in your toolbox

[2:33:27] that you can offer to development that comes in.

[2:33:31] It can be used for commercial industrial

[2:33:34] and residential development.

[2:33:37] And they can, you can offer this as a financing tool for any type of facilities, impacts,

[2:33:44] fees, or improvements that are required of an approval of a project itself.

[2:33:49] As developers like this project, because it helps the cash flow when they're doing construction,

[2:33:56] it's off-balance sheet.

[2:33:57] So it's not part of the debt, and, and, and again, a proof of cash flow.

[2:34:01] And on the residential side, it can provide competitive advantages for pricing on homes.

[2:34:10] If you go to the next slide, this is a map of all the different agencies across the state.

[2:34:18] That I'll participate in the program, you see a large cluster in Northern California and Southern California with this matter in Central California.

[2:34:26] There's a Levin County who are participating in other counties participating in the program

[2:34:32] that include a few county, El Dorado County, Imperial County, Placer County, Sutter County,

[2:34:40] U-book County, and then Riverside County, San Diego County in Sonoma County, just to name a few of those.

[2:34:49] So, 11 counties doing it and then a whole bunch of cities and districts as you can see by this list here.

[2:34:56] Next slide, in terms of how the mechanics work and this is probably the most important to you as a board.

[2:35:06] So, as I mentioned, this is for projects on the lower end at 500,000 to on the larger end of 5 million.

[2:35:14] The advantage to the county option into this program is from basically start to finish

[2:35:22] we see SGA form the assessment district.

[2:35:26] We issue the bonds for the district and we do all post fail administration.

[2:35:32] So when these bonds are issued, they're placed on the tax roll.

[2:35:37] They're paid over 30 years by the property owner or owners.

[2:35:41] If that property is sold, and on the property tax roll, it states specifically, our name,

[2:35:48] the CSEDA skip 2024, and then our phone number.

[2:35:54] So you as a county, do not receive phone calls as to what is this.

[2:35:58] Why is this here, and there is no liability for those bonds that are issued on that property itself.

[2:36:05] So from a staffing perspective perspective, the county, it helps because we are taking over

[2:36:11] that from start to finish, including holding all the public hearings and, as mentioned, all the

[2:36:17] all the sample demonstration of the projects.

[2:36:20] Next slide, please.

[2:36:23] And lastly, this is just a flow chart of how this works from start to finish is the first

[2:36:31] step is the agency, in this case, the county, adopting the resolution to participate in the

[2:36:40] program. Then when an IF and application is received from a developer, we conduct all the proceedings,

[2:36:47] we issue the bonds, we administer the district as you move down. We will handle the tax roll,

[2:36:54] a lot to play any delinquencies, so on and so forth. And then the bond payments are paid by the

[2:37:00] property owner itself. Now, lastly, before jumping into questions, you know, the question we get a lot

[2:37:10] does this take away authority or powers from the county to make decisions on to participate

[2:37:17] in this program and answer is no, whenever we receive an application, we come to the county

[2:37:25] in this case, and you have to sign off as a county knows.

[2:37:30] Board, but from a staff level on every application to move forward. If you decide not to move forward, this is a project that does not want to proceed. We see a CDA will not proceed because we are doing this on your behalf. So it does not take any authority or power away from the county itself. So I hear a lot out there. Happy to answer any questions. And if we'll or others want to fill in any blanks, I may have missed happy to defer.

[2:38:01] All right. Thank you, James.

[2:38:06] Any questions right off the bat before I go to public comment?

[2:38:09] Do you got anybody on the phone besides James? Okay.

[2:38:12] If you're on the phone line, would like to make a public comment on this presentation or program.

[2:38:18] Star 5, we can get you recognized. Is there any public comment here in the boardroom?

[2:38:28] I'm going to see any. In the boardroom, I don't see any hands raised online.

[2:38:33] Okay, we'll close public comment,

[2:38:37] bring it back to the board,

[2:38:43] if no one else wants to go, I got a couple of questions written down here.

[2:38:47] Okay, so I'm curious, this was a lot to absorb this item and the presentation was nice and concise, but let's just start with a couple.

[2:39:01] So, what's the, how does the fine, I got so many questions, I don't know where to start.

[2:39:09] Let's start with the financing terms. How does that work?

[2:39:15] So, it's a 30, 30 year financing. It's a fixed rate financing.

[2:39:20] So, in today's market, we're issuing bonds at about 4.7% fixed for 30 years.

[2:39:28] and it is it is pre-payable. So if it's done on the residential property, if a homeowner does not,

[2:39:36] if they put the home down the line in your five to 15, 20, and don't want to pay it for the additional

[2:39:42] years that's on there, they can't repay them on that.

[2:39:49] Okay, I didn't quite get all that. So you said

[2:39:52] so if a property owner, if you did a construction loan through this murder room. No, they can if they

[2:40:01] If they want to pre-pay it at any point in time, they can pre-pay instead of keeping this on the property tax for 30 years.

[2:40:11] Yeah, pre-pay the financing for a construction loan?

[2:40:16] Not for a construction loan for any reason if they just didn't want the debt on the property.

[2:40:22] Okay, how did they get the debt on the property to begin with, I guess, is what I'm driving at?

[2:40:27] because this will be an assessment or a special tax vote for financing the impact

[2:40:33] and or improvements associated with the development that this program would be used for.

[2:40:41] So a real life example would be for a hotel if they needed to put it in a road for sidewalks,

[2:40:48] and had to find the answer, they can find the answer,

[2:40:52] instead of paying cash, they would find the answer over 30 years

[2:40:55] through the finance and mechanism.

[2:40:58] Okay, so this isn't gonna work for a property owner

[2:41:01] in the sense of a single family dwelling.

[2:41:05] Not for one home, it can work for typically

[2:41:08] we see residential developments of a hundred or more,

[2:41:11] but it's not for a one or two or five residents.

[2:41:16] Okay, and then let me get to my staff report here, so this

[2:41:28] description here says, accept applications from property owners.

[2:41:35] Is that us?

[2:41:35] The county accepts these applications.

[2:41:40] And then we can.

[2:41:40] No.

[2:41:41] Actually, we see a CDX, we have not my application, a developer would fill out for the program.

[2:41:51] But James, it is correct that we would then approve those applications that the county of course institutions.

[2:41:57] That is correct, yes. So we get the application.

[2:42:01] We do our due diligence to make sure number one the project qualifies number two everything is correct.

[2:42:07] And then we come to the county and we cannot move forward with any financing without the county signing that application to move forward.

[2:42:19] And then who who conducts the Special Assessment Proceeding?

[2:42:24] We see a CDA do.

[2:42:27] And then you let me the assessment. Special taxes.

[2:42:31] That's correct.

[2:42:32] And if you form the assessment district.

[2:42:36] Correct.

[2:42:37] and the Community Facilities Districts.

[2:42:41] All right.

[2:42:42] So then I'm curious, is it so other than approving

[2:42:45] an application, what part does the county play in this?

[2:42:52] No, Adley Moot.

[2:42:54] Jamesia, the county would create the conditions with the developers

[2:42:58] say, hey, you need to build that sidewalk

[2:42:59] as part of your project.

[2:43:01] You need to have exit improvements.

[2:43:03] So the county up front is creating those conditions, and that's what's getting financed as part of this project, or part of this program.

[2:43:13] So we're not going to have any other staff time involved with this process other than telling the developer what they have to do to meet the conditions of development.

[2:43:25] Which is an existing part of the process.

[2:43:30] And the only other, the only other staff time, it would be confirming that application and everything is correct.

[2:43:39] And if there are improvements when the county accepts those improvements, just accepting those improvements accordingly.

[2:43:46] But that's all part of that process that you would have to do anyway.

[2:43:50] So I guess what I'm missing is if this is a state program.

[2:43:54] and it's all handled by the state. Why does another developer just go to you? Why does it

[2:43:59] have to go through us? We're actually not part of the state. We are joined powers authority

[2:44:06] and in order for us to have the powers to levying assessment within your county. We can only do

[2:44:15] that with EU authorization. So we can't, we can't you serve your powers. So the reason we come to you

[2:44:22] In this case, it's for you to authorize this program for us to do this to move forward.

[2:44:29] I see.

[2:44:30] Okay.

[2:44:34] All right.

[2:44:37] So, to answer, I think it might be helpful for you to lay out examples of some projects that you have

[2:44:44] for financing for mother counties so that we can think about how those examples might relate to what we're

[2:44:56] I think probably for the county, I mean, week.

[2:45:00] We do, as I briefly mentioned, we do residential, commercial, industrial, and part of that commercial, it's hospitality. So we have done hotel projects where part of the project will mention, maybe you construct a road to do an ingress egress type of financing to do landscaping and to pay impact fees that are associated with that project.

[2:45:29] project or project. That would probably be the most applicable to the county. As I mentioned before,

[2:45:38] residential, it's usually, you know, 100 units or more are using this program, which I wouldn't

[2:45:44] anticipate, you have large swaths of projects up there. In that large scale, so I would have

[2:45:51] business being industrial and probably commercial for that, but mostly what we've seen other

[2:45:59] areas using it for is hospitality type of type of finance.

[2:46:06] So, when you say hospitality type of financing, I guess first of all I am not aware that we are

[2:46:15] currently charging impact fees.

[2:46:20] I have, I'm correct, okay, thank you.

[2:46:25] We would have conditions to a project where, you know,

[2:46:29] the developer has to build something that, you know,

[2:46:32] that would be a public benefit.

[2:46:33] So it's not an impact fee, but there's a sidewalk.

[2:46:36] There's fencing.

[2:46:38] There's, you know, that could add up to the half million dollars.

[2:46:41] That is a minimum for this.

[2:46:44] Right, right.

[2:46:45] So, so we don't have impact fee.

[2:46:47] So, I understand what you're saying,

[2:46:48] that we could as a condition of approval of a proposed project, say that we want you to

[2:46:56] extend an existing sewer line, let's say, because we have a longer term plan for some

[2:47:04] housing, maybe in an adjacent area. And so that would become the basis for the financing

[2:47:14] here. Because hospitality, I'm thinking if you're building a hotel, you've got a whole lot

[2:47:22] of financing that you are pulling together to be able to finance your project. So this is

[2:47:31] specifically targeted at, and it sounds like a statement, but it's a question. This is specifically

[2:47:39] targeted at situations where the county is imposing an addition, a requirement over and

[2:47:46] above that which the let's say the hospitality company might usually include in their normal

[2:47:53] financing. Is that correct? That would be correct. That's what we see. And we see a lot of

[2:48:01] cities, counties, and districts. They enter into development agreements as mentioned in part of

[2:48:07] development agreements is that you have to do A, B, and C, and those are outside the context

[2:48:14] of what their normal finance will be able to finance, and that's where this mechanism comes in.

[2:48:20] I see. Okay, got it. All right, so this is an opportunity that developers for the different types

[2:48:30] of projects that you mentioned, like residential and hospitality, it's another tool in the tool belt,

[2:48:37] that would make Mariposa County competitive, at least with other counties that have the same option available.

[2:48:46] Is that sort of the bottom line?

[2:48:49] Yes, that's fair to say.

[2:48:51] And again, it's a purely voluntary program.

[2:48:55] So it's not something that has to be for every project.

[2:48:58] It can be for certain projects, but it is something that can be offered,

[2:49:02] And especially when you're putting won't be seen is when a county or city or district is putting conditions on that you have to do this that with the other.

[2:49:13] And then they say and you have this program available finance it it's an easier conversation to have some move to project forward.

[2:49:22] Right. Now that makes perfect sense. Okay. Thank you very much.

[2:49:28] thank you for the presentation folks. A couple of questions here and I think it was

[2:49:36] just covered is that the $500,000 in, well, I'd be a pretty expensive side walk,

[2:49:44] but if it covers other fees or if it was a very substantial project, I guess I could see

[2:49:50] that.

[2:49:53] But I had a couple other questions kind of as it relates to that. Let's say that you've

[2:49:59] got a developer that has multiple projects. Let's say he's got 330 unit apartment complexes. Can

[2:50:08] you bundle those together? Can they develop bundle all three of those together?

[2:50:19] If they're

[2:50:22] How do you get funded?

[2:50:26] We're self-funded, so we charge the fee and issuance fee and an administration fee for every

[2:50:35] project you're going to be funded and we do.

[2:50:37] What are the fees?

[2:50:38] What is it an interest rate?

[2:50:40] Is it based on the amount of the money and the percentage?

[2:50:44] How does that work?

[2:50:45] So it's 1% up front for the issuance fee and then it's 10 basis points as for an annual administration fee.

[2:50:55] What happens if they don't pay?

[2:50:59] We can foreclose on them if they don't pay.

[2:51:06] Unfortunately we've got that point in the 23 years of the program.

[2:51:12] Okay,

[2:51:15] and the rates that you guys have are those the same rates that you had when you formed the JPA.

[2:51:26] I think it's a baseball market condition.

[2:51:31] So they've had the very beginning of the program.

[2:51:33] They were closer to 8% based on market in today's market and they will go down based upon what we're seeing now in the marketplace.

[2:51:42] You know, they're between 4.7, 4.8 right now.

[2:51:47] And I didn't get a chance to spend a whole lot of time looking at the list that you've got here of the participating agencies.

[2:51:56] Do you have other counties in here that are similar to Mariposa that have signed onto this?

[2:52:04] Comparable.

[2:52:04] The other, what would be, I mean, there's

[2:52:08] huge county, Alderado County,

[2:52:10] plaster county, Uvo County, and

[2:52:14] Stutter County, who probably the most analogous.

[2:52:18] Okay, all right.

[2:52:19] Thank you.

[2:52:20] Supervisor Poet, your two first question to an

[2:52:23] exhibit, see, you'll see what's covered by the financing.

[2:52:27] So there's quite a few categories,

[2:52:29] transportation and water.

[2:52:30] Our system was cycle water, drainage, wastewater, parkway improvements, so to get to that $500,000 minimum.

[2:52:45] Thank you. My question is, are there any fees to the county if we decide to join, and this is a cost to county, anything at all?

[2:52:55] No, there's no fees to the county at all, for participation, all fees are worn by the development or developer.

[2:53:01] If there are in this piggyback, I think I want to do original questions.

[2:53:05] If there is admin time, any admin time that is associated with your staff as we are moving through a financing.

[2:53:13] You are able to charge back your time to be covered by the financing itself.

[2:53:18] themselves. So there are cities, counties, and districts who will charge for their time

[2:53:24] associated with it. Typically, you know, it's ranges on the low end for 2,500 to

[2:53:29] on the high end, 10,000.

[2:53:34] Thank you.

[2:53:37] This is a supervisor, Forsyth. Who ensures the bonds that you're going to issue?

[2:53:46] So there's no insurance there. These are land secured bonds.

[2:53:50] So the land is the security for the bonds, so if they're in an issue with it, then we have

[2:53:59] the ability to foreclose and the bond holders have the ability to foreclose on the property itself.

[2:54:04] So that's the security for it.

[2:54:06] So what's the downside for the county?

[2:54:11] There are, I know it sounds too good to be true, but there really isn't a downside for the county

[2:54:17] from what we've seen and we get that question on the time and we can't find one and we still

[2:54:29] So James, I'm sure anybody that's listening to this and I read off levying assessments and special taxes, who's receiving the assessment and tax money.

[2:54:46] The bondholders. So the way this works is we go out and sell bonds.

[2:54:53] And then they're sold to investors, typically large municipal funds, like a new being or

[2:55:03] a fidelity mutual funds out there by these.

[2:55:06] So there are the ones by these funds.

[2:55:07] It's holding these in her portfolios.

[2:55:10] Okay.

[2:55:11] Thank you.

[2:55:14] It's hard for me to imagine.

[2:55:19] Given the, I'll say, condition of our county, we have no incorporated cities.

[2:55:26] Small County, 17,000 population, you talked about 100 houses.

[2:55:34] I don't see a single parcel in this county that could maybe down in Kathy's Valley,

[2:55:40] but most of that's Williamson Act land and Conservancy land.

[2:55:45] So I'm struggling with how other than a hotel, or possibly another creakside development,

[2:55:58] how anybody would actually be able to access this.

[2:56:01] So having said that, what the process for creating this situation here in the county is

[2:56:09] is merely signing this resolution,

[2:56:11] approving this resolution, and then we're in.

[2:56:15] And then you're in, and then you can,

[2:56:16] if you decide, six months a year,

[2:56:20] two years, ten years down the road

[2:56:22] that's not working, or if you don't want it there,

[2:56:25] or whatever, you can withdraw at any point in time.

[2:56:34] So it's like putting a spare tire

[2:56:35] in the old back of the Jeep,

[2:56:38] hopefully it's zero when you need it.

[2:56:40] Is that what we're talking about?

[2:56:42] That's a good analogy, I like that.

[2:56:45] Yes, okay. Well, like I said, it was a lot to read since Thursday and it's not easy

[2:56:56] reading for me anyway,

[2:57:00] but this conversation has helped understand it a bit.

[2:57:11] Chair. Kevin Briggs, the Assistant County Council has been working on this item and I believe

[2:57:16] He's asked some things they had, it's ready to.

[2:57:19] All right, thank you.

[2:57:23] Chair and Board Kevin Brakes from the County Council's office.

[2:57:28] The resolution that's before you was prepared by the authority, excuse me.

[2:57:35] And we reviewed it for legal sufficiency, and we did have one item that we requested of

[2:57:41] the authority, and they added a paragraph to section 15 of the agreement.

[2:57:47] and that was circulated to your or that came late after the posting of the agenda.

[2:57:58] The reason for that is we saw that as we read the agreement, it's a, there's an

[2:58:07] indemnification provision in there, that section 15 that runs from the county to the authority,

[2:58:14] that we would indemn that we, the county would indemnify the authority, the JPA.

[2:58:21] For any claims that might come in for the roadway, or the sewer, or the lighting,

[2:58:26] or whatever construction is done under this infrastructure financing.

[2:58:33] We saw that indemnification running one way from the county to the authority.

[2:58:38] And we thought, well, shouldn't it be reciprocal?

[2:58:42] Shouldn't they be indemnifying the county for their levy and bond work and collection of the assessments or the text special taxes?

[2:58:56] And they agreed that they would add that into Section 15, and that's what's present before you.

[2:59:04] I would say, and this is not, this does not go to the legal

[2:59:08] sufficiency of the document if the board wants to proceed.

[2:59:11] We believe that the document is sufficient.

[2:59:14] But because it's reciprocal, and because right now this is a

[2:59:17] unilateral act of the board, the adoption of this resolution,

[2:59:23] we would suggest that before an actual project specific financing is done that we would have

[2:59:32] a bilateral agreement signed by both parties where we would have that reciprocal indemnification.

[2:59:41] Just so, you know, I believe that they have indicated their willingness to do that,

[2:59:46] because they have said in section 15 that adoption by the commission of the authority of each resolution

[2:59:56] to contention to form a CFD community facility system.

[3:00:00] Our assessment district shall constitute agreement by the authority to indemnify the county for claims or damages

[3:00:08] arising out of the formation or administration of the CFD or assessment district. That's

[3:00:15] well in good, but they're not signing this document. And so we believe that if the board does

[3:00:21] proceed that at a later time we should have a bilateral agreement with the authority. Thank you.

[3:00:29] Thank you. So a couple more questions. The JPA, James, is everybody in this list, a member of this JPA, is it just one huge JPA, or will we be in, say, a rural county section of it?

[3:00:48] So, you're at the counties that we remember to our GPS, you joined in 1988, you would be a member of a participant in the skip program, so you'd be added to the list of skip participants of the 130 plus there.

[3:01:06] And then is there a board that governs this JPA?

[3:01:10] there's there's a board it's made up of typically former city managers and former county

[3:01:19] county employee folks former some are current some are not current I mean members

[3:01:29] are on the board there are seven with two alternates so nine total nine total

[3:01:39] okay

[3:01:40] and how often does that board turn over or it's every three, it's a three-year term for every member and they can stay on, they typically stay on for two terms and then roll off.

[3:02:00] Okay, thank you.

[3:02:04] Go ahead, supervisor foresight.

[3:02:05] have a question of planning how many projects that are in the hopper would benefit from this particular agreement?

[3:02:16] Yeah, I think Plane Director mentioned specifically the high-up place project that would be a good candidate for this program,

[3:02:26] but then would then have to be approved by the Plane Department before it went through.

[3:02:31] And then I think supervisor Ministries thought of, you know, if there's a future multi-family housing, you know,

[3:02:39] you know, a creakside type development.

[3:02:41] Yeah, nothing else in the hopper.

[3:02:43] Yeah.

[3:02:43] Correct.

[3:02:45] My personal opinion is I think we ought to tap the brakes on this and give a little more thought.

[3:02:52] That's my opinion.

[3:02:57] If it's all set up to go and a project comes along,

[3:03:06] I could apply these projects.

[3:03:09] I mean, we've got two on the board, so to speak right now.

[3:03:14] Brown Baron and Hyatt, can they, is it too late for them to access this program?

[3:03:23] The second question, Stephen, for a planning director,

[3:03:25] I'm not sure whether it would be too late or not.

[3:03:27] I'd have to check which aims on that.

[3:03:29] They do have some public infrastructure improvements associated with that project.

[3:03:34] I do know there are discussions with that project applicant that they've been running into some issues associated with increasing costs for part of their project.

[3:03:45] Certainly, the high place project is of interest.

[3:03:48] There could be other projects.

[3:03:49] I mean, they're not in application stage.

[3:03:51] We have a, you know, we have some Creek Parkway related projects, a firmer property, there's some other things that could come into the mix in the future.

[3:04:02] And then there's also, you know, Missouri Gulch.

[3:04:06] There's likely some public improvement infrastructure associated with that.

[3:04:09] Although that is not an application today. Can't tell you whether it would need it or not.

[3:04:15] Any project that would require these capital improvements for public infrastructure could potentially benefit from it.

[3:04:20] I don't have a crystal ball on all of those that could occur, but certainly we would definitely be interested in having this available to folks.

[3:04:32] For the Board's sake, in conversation, how I learned about this was through the discussions with the guinea from the high place project.

[3:04:42] There were some meetings that were held and he called me and asked me if we were participating in this and it prompted me to look into it in more detail.

[3:04:49] So, as a result, he had indicated, well, as a part of that conversation, he had indicated

[3:04:54] some of the creasing costs for their financials on their side, and that they were participating

[3:04:58] in another jurisdiction of something similar to another jurisdiction, a project they were

[3:05:02] working on.

[3:05:03] So, we do know there's some interest, we obviously know there's interest throughout the

[3:05:06] other jurisdictions that are listed, and so it would be of interest for us to at least see

[3:05:12] this through.

[3:05:13] I would understand if there's additional discussion or information that the board seeks

[3:05:18] certainly let us know we'd be happy to gather that information.

[3:05:22] Thank you.

[3:05:29] Steve, what about the surf pool?

[3:05:30] Would that qualify?

[3:05:37] The my understanding of the financing would be towards those public improvement,

[3:05:42] the whole list that's in the resolution.

[3:05:46] And it's possible there could be something associated with that.

[3:05:49] They don't have their full application in yet,

[3:05:52] so we don't know all the details of everything that would be required.

[3:05:56] So when you say public improvement, if they built the solar field that they're talking about

[3:06:03] doing, now granted they would be utilizing the power from it, but also they want to build

[3:06:09] as you know, a backup power source for the community of Don't Lake, Don Pedro.

[3:06:18] Is that what that qualifies under that deficit?

[3:06:20] I don't know.

[3:06:20] I couldn't give you an answer without evaluating the details of that specifics of that.

[3:06:25] But certainly, we would look at those types of situations that others for whether or not this could be beneficial for that we would lean on the skip program folks to look at what beats their requirements first, and then we will look at what the obligations might be under a entitlement application.

[3:06:47] There's a wide range of things that are listed in that.

[3:06:50] Will could you bring that, or you just throw that up?

[3:06:54] And certainly, some of those things could be financed through this.

[3:06:59] And my impression is that this is, as mentioned earlier, there's another stream of financing

[3:07:06] that's available that would be locked in for them, and they can count on that.

[3:07:10] And that's something worth their construction project, you know, that they penciled

[3:07:14] before they went through entitlement and, you know, takes a while to get through the process with an EIR or other larger projects.

[3:07:22] That type of cost go up.

[3:07:25] Maybe they're financing mechanisms, couldn't cover that.

[3:07:27] So for the wave pools specifically, in those types of...

[3:07:30] I think that we would want to look at what those answers are.

[3:07:34] Thank you. So just I guess two things that I wanted to point out, thank you, Steve.

[3:07:40] First of all, is who really is endorsed this and who created this was through CSAC,

[3:07:48] which I think we've all had pretty favorable and positive things that we've garnered through CSAC.

[3:07:57] The second thing is, are three things, and I guess, is it doesn't seem like going back

[3:08:04] well, even if we went back, say, 10 years, how many things would have qualified for this?

[3:08:10] And all that it is, thirdly, is it just another revenue source?

[3:08:17] Pardon me?

[3:08:18] Financing.

[3:08:19] Not revenue.

[3:08:20] Yeah.

[3:08:21] I was testing you, and you passed.

[3:08:24] It's another financing source and so if we're talking about a handful of things over 10 years

[3:08:30] I don't, and then given who created it and I just, I mean, it sounds too good to be true,

[3:08:39] but I think that it passes all the tests that I've seen so far so thank you again.

[3:08:53] So, it sounds like we don't have anything in the wings that will be held up by failure to move forward on this particular item today, but I agree with Supervisor Poe, there's no harm in getting it in place in the way we want to see it.

[3:09:18] So I guess my question is given the input from Kevin Briggs, does it make sense to inquire

[3:09:30] whether CSCDA is willing to allow us to modify the resolution such that it encompasses

[3:09:40] is the concept of a reciprocal indemnification.

[3:09:46] And then move forward from there.

[3:09:51] This change again, we've agreed to that already.

[3:09:55] So that can be included in our council's

[3:09:57] agreed to then set that language over.

[3:09:59] I think what Kevin was indicating about an educational

[3:10:02] agreement, which again, we're amenable to.

[3:10:06] But the language and resolution, we are amenable to that.

[3:10:11] So let me understand what you just said.

[3:10:15] You're looking at an agreement that is separate from the resolution.

[3:10:23] That's what I think Kevin was indicating would be recommended,

[3:10:27] which we're fine with for that.

[3:10:29] But we're also, we added some language to Kevin's point to the resolution.

[3:10:36] That would incorporate an identification both ways.

[3:10:40] Okay, do you want to clarify Kevin?

[3:10:42] I guess their mirror image documents, is that Kevin?

[3:10:47] Kevin breaks from the county council's office again.

[3:10:50] Yes, our point is that this is a, this is a unilateral resolution that your board is considering.

[3:10:56] And if it passes it binds your board, it doesn't bind the JPA.

[3:11:02] So that's why we think that there needs to be a bilateral agreement where both sites sign.

[3:11:07] Okay, so it sounds like your recommendation is that we bring an item back that would have the resolution and the agreement in the same.

[3:11:18] It's a two step process already. There's the adoption of the resolution followed by their action on projects specific items.

[3:11:29] And that's the second step.

[3:11:32] We think that the agreement should be in place sometime before that second step is taken,

[3:11:38] but it needn't be done concurrent with this first step.

[3:11:41] The only problem is that means somebody's got to remember to take the second step for

[3:11:45] our interest.

[3:11:47] Let's make it as easy and straightforward as possible.

[3:11:51] It would be my recommendation.

[3:11:53] So, can I make a clarification?

[3:11:56] The resolution with the recommended language was sent to you guys earlier this week and is attached to the packet.

[3:12:04] Well, it's not attached to your packet.

[3:12:06] It's attached to the agenda item for public view.

[3:12:11] And this item would just take the unimended action for the resolution.

[3:12:18] You would need to approve it as amended.

[3:12:20] Those suggestions.

[3:12:21] Right, yeah, no, I'm just wondering if it makes sense to, if there is interest in having this other tool in our tool belt, when eventually we have a development project that could benefit from this tool that we take it all in one package rather than the two step, which is a nice dance, but you know, her to do together.

[3:12:49] I

[3:12:55] don't. I really don't. Okay. Who else? Sure.

[3:13:07] So this is for James. James, if we

[3:13:10] decided not to approve this today and we had an interested party come to us in a

[3:13:18] month or two. Is that possible to get things going right away to go ahead and

[3:13:29] three application period. We have, so the next one is December 1. So as long as the county took

[3:13:36] action before December 1st, and that project or projects wanted to move forward in the next

[3:13:44] school, that would be the time that we do look at that. Thank you. So let's dig into that a little

[3:13:54] James, so three application periods per year?

[3:14:00] Yeah, so we get, we have, so let me just

[3:14:03] I'll give you this three application deadlines.

[3:14:05] Here's December 1st for our first

[3:14:07] Bond series next year because we're done.

[3:14:10] We're basically done with 2025 or 24.

[3:14:13] I'm sorry.

[3:14:15] Then the next application deadline after December 1 is equal

[3:14:18] I'm 25 and then our next application deadline after

[3:14:23] that is August 1st, 2025.

[3:14:27] So those are the three windows that we're looking at.

[3:14:34] Oh, I see September, we're so that,

[3:14:37] and how long is each application period?

[3:14:41] So basically, so that December 1st applications,

[3:14:45] we issue bond at the end of May.

[3:14:48] So it's typically about a five to six month process

[3:14:50] from start to end.

[3:14:52] Okay.

[3:14:54] Thank you.

[3:14:56] Yes, sir.

[3:14:58] Um, if it's, uh, any of them.

[3:15:00] All to the board, given the discussion,

[3:15:06] it is possible that we could continue this to date

[3:15:09] certain it was a publicly noticed requirement for this action and work with council and skip

[3:15:17] program folks to bring in any language for the resolution and we could do it that way that

[3:15:22] way the Reno signal would have to occur. That would allow us to opportunity to take a look

[3:15:27] providing additional information for the resolution that based on the discussion.

[3:15:34] I think it would also be worthwhile to contact the two major projects that are on the board,

[3:15:41] so to speak right now, if they could apply their projects to this program,

[3:15:48] and if the developers of those projects would be interested in applying their projects to this program.

[3:15:56] I can do that. I can't say guinea re-stow it directly on the high-place project and was interested in the program.

[3:16:03] I can confirm definitively and bring that information back as well as the other projects.

[3:16:10] So let me understand this. So what's the process between applying,

[3:16:15] for let's say the high-up project, hold on Steve, here in the county and applying for this program.

[3:16:22] Does one happen before the other or do they do it simultaneously?

[3:16:31] So as long as the next application deadline is December 1st, we would need the county to take action before December 1st to opt in via this resolution because we're not going to move forward unless you are okay moving forward on this.

[3:16:49] And so for us to move forward, how much of a process does it have to go through the planning department?

[3:16:55] Does it have to have permit and conditions met and ready to build?

[3:17:00] I would assume.

[3:17:01] Yeah.

[3:17:02] You need to be a final map.

[3:17:03] So it doesn't need to be ready to go.

[3:17:07] And incidentally, that is the case with the high place project.

[3:17:10] They've got their building permit application.

[3:17:12] And they've already went through a design review.

[3:17:16] They're looking to build.

[3:17:19] But just to clarify further, do they need their permit issued from Mariposa County to apply

[3:17:26] for this project program?

[3:17:28] No.

[3:17:31] Let's see.

[3:17:31] Four issued bonds.

[3:17:32] Two issued bonds.

[3:17:34] They need to.

[3:17:36] Okay.

[3:17:38] Okay.

[3:17:39] So they get ready.

[3:17:39] They apply for the program.

[3:17:41] You go through the rest of that process.

[3:17:45] Then they get their permit from the county and then they can receive the bond money.

[3:17:50] That's pretty much God.

[3:17:51] That's my understanding, James, unless you have a clarification for the board.

[3:17:55] That's correct.

[3:18:02] Yeah, so we've heard what Supervisor Ford's site said.

[3:18:05] I would be interested in the two questions I asked, can these two projects get in on this?

[3:18:12] Do they want to?

[3:18:13] You said yes for I, and come back with that and maybe give us a little more time too.

[3:18:23] As Lame and me, I read this thing once and I attempted to do it a second time and it was just

[3:18:32] It's a lot of legalese language in there. Good for you, Kevin. It's it's hard reading for me

[3:18:40] Yeah, I was a bit challenging for me as well and not a heavy finance background for myself and so I was definitely

[3:18:48] appreciative of Kevin's review and the indemnification

[3:18:52] change that he was requesting.

[3:19:07] Is that the consensus? It's fine. It's fine. I'm getting

[3:19:13] consensus on the other loud shake their heads. They have to speak. Yes, I agree to get

[3:19:20] more information in combat. Okay, great.

[3:19:25] About this end. Sorry, I missed. So, what I said

[3:19:31] to the investigation on the two big projects that are on the board and then come back?

[3:19:38] I think that's fine. I mean, that's kind of where we were coming down as far as this conversation.

[3:19:47] There is no cost to the county in terms of selling the county as a potential development location.

[3:19:54] And it is a nice to have, right?

[3:19:57] If you're a developer and you're talking about financing a project somewhere between 500,000

[3:20:03] and 5 million, or 35 million, sorry, you know, it's we're in a competitive situation at some

[3:20:11] level and it's nice to be at least on an even playing field in terms of being able to offer

[3:20:16] this financing option.

[3:20:19] If the board members need more information, that's great.

[3:20:23] But I do think there is value.

[3:20:25] Since we are current in terms of the information that's been collected

[3:20:31] and the recommendation from County Council's office,

[3:20:35] I think let's do it and move on.

[3:20:40] Or let's just say we don't want to play in the sandbox

[3:20:44] and a lot of staff to focus on other things.

[3:20:52] Well, I agree 100% I think if I was Mr. Hyatt and I called Joe and said, hey, look, you know, I'm kind of thinking about building the motel there.

[3:21:05] That's a heck of a nice thing for him to bring up is that hey, we have this additional type of financing that's available to you.

[3:21:12] So the two questions, are the two places that are currently would qualify for this?

[3:21:18] Are they under construction?

[3:21:23] There's one that is ingrating.

[3:21:27] So they probably have the money at the financing anyway.

[3:21:32] Maybe?

[3:21:34] I can't possibly, I'm not, I'm not, yeah, I'm being facetious.

[3:21:38] Anyway,

[3:21:41] can I, can I comment on that?

[3:21:46] So if they are doing improvements, which I'm assuming they are for this, this is a reimbursement mechanism.

[3:21:54] So they would have to have their own finance.

[3:21:56] So to your point, they probably do a financing, but they're looking to reimburse themselves with this financing,

[3:22:02] which is much more, it's probably more than half what they're paying right now in the current financing that they have in place.

[3:22:11] Thank you.

[3:22:13] At some point, we have to recognize the fact that we have to do anything and everything

[3:22:18] that we can possibly do in this county to try to keep from hemorrhaging and losing

[3:22:23] more people.

[3:22:24] and in order to do that we have to grow.

[3:22:26] We have to get housing.

[3:22:28] We have to attract people.

[3:22:30] We have to track businesses and if we limit that to a small number of things, then it's just going to make that more difficult.

[3:22:44] Yes, please.

[3:22:46] Good afternoon, Mr. Jones County and Mr. Officer.

[3:22:49] I would just recommend if it's brought back that we do so with a timeline.

[3:22:54] As the board may or may or may not know and the public may or may not know.

[3:22:57] On February 16th of 2025, the field of dreams is returned to Mariposa County,

[3:23:02] as open property that has a lot of interest from developers for housing,

[3:23:11] different workforce housing for you, somebody and housing for low income.

[3:23:14] So if we're going to enter into this, I would, I think timing if we could be before that comes into

[3:23:22] the county, I think it would either allow us to say affirmatively or specifically yes or no

[3:23:28] to whether we have this program in place. So that hopefully for Steve that just helps you

[3:23:33] when I find out which time we should get answers and bring this back for our discussion and

[3:23:38] direction. Okay, thank you. And just to add Joe, thank you for that. There is a date certain date

[3:23:48] would have to be chosen because it was a public notice hearing today.

[3:23:52] So October 15 November 1st, a board date.

[3:23:56] We will lock in if it's going to be continued for further consideration.

[3:24:01] Why is that?

[3:24:02] Why does it need a date, sir?

[3:24:04] So this item was noticed publicly in the paper.

[3:24:08] And to avoid having to notice again,

[3:24:12] which I will note is it can be costly.

[3:24:16] you continue the item to a date certain so that the listening public knows exactly when

[3:24:22] this item is coming back. We give a date in a time. So 9 a.m. we're seeing there after or 2 p.m.

[3:24:27] we're seeing there after.

[3:24:29] All right. A paper.

[3:24:34] What paper?

[3:24:35] Yes. So we notice in the Gazette because it is the only paper of general circulation in our

[3:24:40] county and that is under government code requirements.

[3:24:46] So when can you have the information Steve?

[3:24:49] I didn't generate a bunch of questions.

[3:24:51] It's November 5th.

[3:24:53] We're looking at November 5th for the date certain.

[3:24:57] If that works for the board.

[3:24:59] The 15th is a little crunchy, but.

[3:25:02] It doesn't give that time much time for somebody.

[3:25:05] If they wanted to get in their application by December 1st.

[3:25:08] Well, that's just to join the JPA.

[3:25:12] We got December 1st.

[3:25:18] I'm sorry, I guess I may be honest, I thought that if anybody wanted to fill out an application to get one of these, this financing, they had to have it in by December 1st is that?

[3:25:30] for this bond that she did?

[3:25:33] Right.

[3:25:33] They would.

[3:25:34] But the application and will take them by 15, 20 minutes to fill out.

[3:25:39] So if the county approved it on November 5th,

[3:25:44] that would still get them plenty of times to complete an application through to us.

[3:25:54] I'm sorry.

[3:25:55] Good.

[3:25:56] For that.

[3:25:57] Can I ask you an intern county for their approving this program that day?

[3:26:04] So with it's being the morning or the afternoon morning.

[3:26:11] Well, if we want to do it on the first, we can do it the first item.

[3:26:17] I'm sorry.

[3:26:19] First item.

[3:26:20] So what I'm hearing is November 5th at 9 a.m. or soon thereafter.

[3:26:25] Yes.

[3:26:27] And chair, if it would second, and so then I continue this to that date and time, sir.

[3:26:34] Got it.

[3:26:35] Being as James on the phone, James is on the phone with the 9 a.m. work for you, James.

[3:26:41] Unfortunately, I'm not dying at the same time, certain time for current journey.

[3:26:46] Two, two, two, two, two, two, two PM. So, events, two, three, two, a meeting after the

[3:26:55] fifth or, yeah, well,

[3:27:02] yeah, both. We actually do not have a meeting on the 12th of November.

[3:27:11] Let's see, actually sorry, the 19th is, we do have the 12th, we do not have the 19th, the 19th,

[3:27:16] canceled for C-SAC.

[3:27:20] Okay, so the 12 would like to participate. So the 12 would be better for me.

[3:27:29] I'm 9 a.m. That's fine.

[3:27:33] So November 12, 9 a.m. or soon thereafter.

[3:27:40] Okay, let's go to that down here.

[3:27:46] Down here.

[3:27:49] Okay, okay, that's what we'll do.

[3:27:53] Okay, so date certain November 12, 9 a.m. to consider the item, we'll bring the information back and include in the board packet.

[3:28:01] Thank you.

[3:28:07] Okay.

[3:28:10] Do I need to announce that?

[3:28:12] Or...

[3:28:13] It doesn't hurt to reiterate it.

[3:28:14] Okay.

[3:28:15] So this item is going to be continued to November 12th.

[3:28:20] 9 a.m. or is soon thereafter as a regular agenda item.

[3:28:26] Okay?

[3:28:27] All right.

[3:28:27] That's all we have today, all the business before the board.

[3:28:34] I will adjourn this meeting in memory of Jason Randall, Barbara Ellingson, Donna Wilkey,

[3:28:47] Richard McMeekin, Vicki McMichael, and Lewis Billings.

[3:28:55] And we are adjourned.

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