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[9:13]
Good morning.
I'd like to welcome everybody this
[9:17]
morning. At this time, I call on Miss
Blackwell to give a prayer.
[9:24]
Dear Lord, we thank you for this
opportunity to gather together. May our
[9:30]
hearts and minds be united in a common
purpose and may we engage in meaningful
[9:37]
discussion. Grant us wisdom and
discernment and help us to work together
[9:43]
effectively. We ask this in your name.
Amen. Amen.
[9:49]
At this time, I call this meeting to
order. Please stand for the pledge of
[9:52]
allegiance.
[9:55]
I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[10:01]
republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[10:08]
justice for all.
Thank you.
[10:12]
Uh, I'd like to announce that anybody
that would like to speak during our
[10:17]
public hearings when we get to that
part, uh, please sign up on the sheet
[10:21]
that's over in the corner over there. I
don't want to miss anybody who would
[10:25]
like to
[10:29]
speak. You have the minutes, board
members. You have the minutes to our
[10:32]
April 14th uh 2025 board meeting. I'll
entertain a motion to approve.
[10:39]
So move, Mr. Chair. Motion been made.
All in favor say I. Those opposed. The
[10:44]
motion carries. You also have the
minutes of our April 24th uh 14th uh
[10:50]
meeting. Entertain a motion to approve.
Mr. Chair, some move. Motion been made.
[10:56]
All in favor say I. I. Opposed. The
motion carries. Mr. Hendrick, planning
[11:02]
and zoning.
[11:05]
Mr. Chairman, for a minute. Before I get
started, I would like to introduce uh
[11:09]
Lucky Carson. He is the county new
planner that just came on board.
[11:15]
Okay.
Welcome. We c certainly welcome you to
[11:19]
the county. Good to have you. I think
you'll do the county a great job. Okay,
[11:24]
the first application we have is a
request by Michael Obby for a special
[11:27]
exception permit to operate an ATV
repair shop on the property. This
[11:32]
property identified as county tax number
1420000-
[11:37]
A-00481 and partial record number 38416
is owned as agricultural is located on
[11:43]
the west side of route 789 B road and
approximately a half mile north of his
[11:48]
intersection with route 735 White House
Road election district 9 county mechan
[11:54]
reference the book LR-17-841
[11:59]
okay election district does. Thank you,
Mr. Chair. I'd like to make a motion we
[12:05]
accept the special exemption permit
application based off the planning
[12:08]
commission.
Well, we got public hearing. Uh we'll
[12:14]
now open the public hearing on this
application. Any anybody wish to speak
[12:17]
on behalf of the
[12:21]
application hearing? None. We'll open
the public hearing for this application.
[12:25]
Anybody wishing to speak?
[12:30]
Hearing none. District nine. Yes, sir.
I'd like to make a motion we accept the
[12:37]
special exemption permit application
based off the planning commission's
[12:41]
recommendation.
[12:45]
All in favor of the motion? I.
All oppose. Motion carries. Thank you.
[12:52]
You have an application request by
Garland Pill for a special exception for
[12:56]
a third
residence home on the property. This
[13:00]
property identified as county tax number
[13:05]
14500-09-01 and partial rocket number
39332 is zone agricultures located on
[13:10]
the east side of route 871 Sandy Fork
Road approximately half mile south of
[13:15]
his intersection with highway 58
election district 1 county of
[13:18]
Meckllinburgg reference the book BNP
163-453 and wheelb WF 20-429
[13:28]
okay anybody wishing to speak on behalf
of
[13:31]
application hearing. None. I'll open the
public hearing. Anyone wishing to
[13:37]
speak hearing? No one. I will close the
public hearing. District one. Yes, sir.
[13:43]
I recommend that we receive special
acceptance permit for the application of
[13:49]
Garnet Pitter uh recommended by the
planning commission. Okay. Motion's been
[13:53]
made. All in favor of the motion say I.
Opposed. And the motion carries.
[14:00]
On Monday, May 12th, 2025, it is at his
meeting beginning at 9:30 a.m. in the
[14:06]
board of supervisors meeting room of the
Goose Bank building located 350
[14:09]
Washington Street, Boon, Virginia
23917. The Mechmber County Board of
[14:14]
Supervisors will conduct a public
hearing for the proposed of receiving
[14:17]
public comment on proposed solar
facility sighting agreement and proposed
[14:21]
sighting development conditions between
seven bridges solar
[14:25]
LLC County to set out perimeters related
to his proposed 80 megawatt facility
[14:31]
covers county partial rocket
7779. At the conclusion of the public
[14:36]
hearing, the board may adopt the solar
facility sighting agreement and proposed
[14:39]
sighting development conditions as is.
may adopt the agreement and conditions
[14:43]
with modifications. May decline to adopt
the agreement and conditions or may
[14:47]
defer actions to a later board meeting.
Okay. Anyone wishing to speak on behalf
[14:54]
of the
application? Clif.
[15:15]
All right. Good morning, supervisors,
uh, board chair, staff. Thank you very
[15:20]
much for giving us this time to you this
morning. Um, as you all know, I'm Cliff
[15:27]
Sher. I work for Long Road Energy. I'm a
development director. We are a
[15:32]
developer, owner, and operator of
renewable energy projects. Uh we're
[15:38]
active across the country and we've been
developing the seven bridges solar
[15:42]
project uh since
2017.
[15:46]
Um as you've gotten uh handouts this
morning that include this presentation
[15:52]
and also some information on the uh some
of the supporters. Um we also have other
[15:58]
other supporters beyond those uh emails
that are in the uh binder that you
[16:04]
received this morning. But first to zoom
out a little bit, I just want to uh
[16:08]
share some information on solar is that
it is a a proven technology. It's in
[16:14]
demand by uh utilities, corporate
customers, um small businesses and and
[16:21]
residences. Uh in 2024, 50,000 megawatts
of solar was added to the grid versus
[16:29]
only 2400 megawatts of gas. And part of
the reason for that is because the cost
[16:34]
of solar has fallen over 80% since
2009. So on a a levelized cost of energy
[16:42]
basis on average solar uh the levelized
cost of energy is solar is lower than
[16:47]
any other power generation
technology. Now to get more local in
[16:53]
2023 Virginia imported more electricity
than any other state. that 36% of the
[17:00]
electricity supply in 2023 came from
outside Virginia and Virginia energy
[17:06]
demand is expected to double in the next
10
[17:09]
years. So it seems clear that there's a
need for more sources of energy to meet
[17:16]
the demands of businesses and residents.
Um and as most people know our project
[17:22]
is located just over about three and a
half miles outside of Chase City.
[17:26]
There's existing transmission
infrastructure there that is key to
[17:30]
connecting to the grid. Now, since 2017,
when we first got a contract in place
[17:36]
with the land owner, uh the project area
has been reduced by 50% incorporating
[17:42]
feedback from the community and others.
The project itself is is well cited with
[17:49]
minimal to no visibility of the solar
project from public roads or neighbors.
[17:54]
and we've been communicating with you
all and with the community as a whole
[17:58]
throughout that development
time. The uh community feedback that
[18:03]
we've received include um well sparked
us to do a number of things to address
[18:09]
that feedback and one of those things is
conserving 250 acres between our project
[18:14]
and the South Marin River. Another is
that we've we often get the the question
[18:21]
um how is this project going to affect
my electricity rates? And we sell
[18:26]
electricity into the wholesale market.
But what we found is a way to help
[18:31]
people through a utility bill assistance
program that the Ruren Club is already
[18:37]
running. We're planning to make a
donation to that program to expand that
[18:42]
program across Meckllinburgg County. And
the thing that we like about their
[18:46]
program is that it can be used by
customers of Dominion or Meckllinmberg
[18:50]
Electric
Cooperative. Um, we also added a western
[18:54]
access road to uh Highway 49 Courthouse
Road to reduce construction traffic
[19:00]
impacts on Scott's Crossroad. Um, and
part of that relates to there's been
[19:06]
talk of good neighbor agreements. you
all. Um, I've just submitted the the
[19:10]
original hard copy of the affidavit that
I shared with the county earlier
[19:14]
confirming that we are not utilizing
good neighbor agreements on this
[19:19]
project. Um, we haven't had discussions
on that since early 2024. Since that
[19:26]
time, we've added a construction access
road to the to the west that addresses
[19:31]
the concerns that
um people had about construction impacts
[19:36]
on Scott's Crossroads.
So, the sighting agreement that was uh
[19:40]
submitted late last year includes the
changes that I just mentioned, the 250
[19:46]
acres and the western access road and
also includes the commitment that we've
[19:50]
made to Chase City years ago to help the
town uh through a donation of 500,000 as
[19:57]
well as the increased an increase in
capital payments to Meckllinburgg County
[20:03]
payable uh up all up to within the third
30 days of project operations. So that
[20:10]
increases from 2 million to 2.5 million.
And then there's revenue share payments
[20:14]
as is Virginia law that total more than
7 million over the project life. Now to
[20:20]
get into the the details of the project
on the top row of pictures here are
[20:26]
existing conditions. The bottom is uh
simulations of after our project is
[20:32]
installed. So you could see the existing
access road that would be improved
[20:37]
during construction on Scott's
Crossroads is the picture on the left.
[20:41]
The middle picture is another view from
Scots Crossroads. And the picture on the
[20:46]
right is a view of a location where
there would be that's not along the
[20:49]
roads or um or the Scots Crossroad or at
South Marin. That's a view actually
[20:55]
where there's 150 ft uh setback from the
property boundary. So, as you can see,
[21:02]
the project is well shielded from
neighbors. Uh, this map includes the 250
[21:09]
acre uh conservation area on the north
side of the project. And you could see
[21:14]
on the east there's setbacks of 400 to
greater than 2,000 ft from Scott's
[21:21]
Crossroads. To the south, there's a 1500
acre timber property that the owner
[21:26]
plans to continue to operate as a timber
property. and highway 49 courthouse road
[21:32]
is threequarters of a mile to the west.
So, as you can see, this project is well
[21:38]
shielded. And also, um it's worth noting
that while our project has been
[21:44]
downsized from 942 acres to 435 over the
8-year development
[21:50]
timeline, that uh fenced remainder
remaining fence footprint would provide
[21:56]
approximately 390 acres potentially for
sheep grazing. So it would provide uh uh
[22:04]
we're working with uh farmers in
southside Virginia to provide support to
[22:08]
the agricultural community and they in
service would help us maintain our
[22:13]
project
location. Here is another view from the
[22:18]
South Maharan River. You can see the
hill sloping across the river up towards
[22:22]
the project site. That would be in the
250 acre conservation area. So the
[22:27]
project is uphill from the South Marin
River well screened with a healthy
[22:35]
setback. Now since this is the uh
discussion on the sighting agreement
[22:40]
included here a summary on the economic
benefits of the project. During
[22:45]
construction the project is expected to
support over $30 million in economic
[22:51]
output. That includes 17 million in
direct spending and 14 million in
[22:57]
indirect and induced spending and that's
strictly in Meckllinmberg County
[23:02]
impacts. Um I mentioned the revenue to
Chase City and Meckllinburgg County
[23:07]
already. During construction we expect
over 150 construction jobs resulting in
[23:14]
more than $5 million in labor income.
And we also uh plan to utilize solar
[23:19]
panels made by First Solar. We have a
long-standing relationship with First
[23:24]
Solar supported by over 16,000 American
jobs across their their company and
[23:29]
their supply chain. We have um over our
uh Long Road Energy's development
[23:37]
career, we've utilized over 1,600
megawatts of first solar panels and we
[23:41]
look forward to continuing to do that.
So, I'll close with this as you know,
[23:47]
just pointing out that we have not just
a proven track record in Meckllinburgg
[23:51]
County, but listening to communities and
answering tough questions and addressing
[23:55]
concerns, but also all across the
country. So, we look forward to uh
[24:00]
having the opportunity to continue to
move this project forward and would
[24:04]
appreciate your vote in support of the
sighting agreement. Thank you.
[24:09]
All right. Thank you, Cliff. Um, before
we open the public hearing on this, I'd
[24:15]
like to remind everyone to please state
your name and your address. You'll have
[24:20]
three minutes to speak and we uh stick
to that rule uh very strictly. Uh
[24:26]
please, I'm sure there are different
opinions. Uh please be respectful for
[24:32]
everyone and their opinion.
And with all that being said, I would
[24:37]
like to open the public hearing on the
sighting agreement for the seven bridges
[24:42]
project. Mr. Chair, we have 20 people
currently signed up to speak. Um the
[24:48]
first speaker is Lori Huber.
[24:55]
Good morning everyone. My name is Lori
Huber. My
[24:59]
husband and I are here. visit 14174
Highway 58 in Boon. We're here this
[25:05]
morning to urge the members of the board
to approve the seven bridges solar
[25:10]
project. I see that you have it split
into two parts where it's favor of you
[25:13]
approving both of them. Uh one of the
first things covered in an economics
[25:18]
class is the law of supply and
demand. And it says when supply exceeds
[25:24]
demand prices fall and when demand
exceeds supply prices rise.
[25:30]
The price of a gallon of gas right now
is is down because the price of a barrel
[25:35]
of oil is about $60 a barrel. That's
very, very low. In fact, when it drops
[25:41]
below $60 a barrel, it folks who are
producing the oil for us to use in our
[25:47]
car and other things lose money, so they
stop
[25:51]
producing. That brings things back up
again. And that balance between supply
[25:55]
and demand, the cost goes up a little
bit and they get back to creating the
[25:59]
the gasoline we need for our
vehicles. The law of supply and demand
[26:04]
and applies to everything, food, houses,
and
[26:12]
electricity. The demand for electricity
in Virginia and in Meckllinmberg County
[26:16]
in particular is high and getting higher
every day. And that's due to the fact
[26:21]
that we have data centers and we're
getting more of them all the time.
[26:26]
Remember, when supply exceeds demand,
prices fall. And when demand exceeds
[26:31]
supply, prices rise. You can make a good
decision here today and approve the
[26:37]
seven bridges solar project. A project
that will increase the supply of
[26:43]
electricity. The project will do this
for 30 years or more. The presentation
[26:47]
we just heard it cited 40 years. This
project will do it without
[26:53]
having mining
operations for things like coal or for
[26:59]
pipelines that can leak for things like
gas or
[27:04]
oil. It will not depend on the constant
replenishing of fuels. It will not be
[27:10]
subject to the fluctuations in the price
of those fuels driven by supply and
[27:16]
demand. Don't lead but don't let demand
exceed supply and leave us with high
[27:22]
prices for electricity or at work
literally sitting in the dark. Thank
[27:27]
you.
[27:31]
The next speaker who signed up is
Derwood Grizzard.
[27:44]
My wife Sandra and I live at the
intersection of Scots
[27:49]
Crossroads and Honey Tree Road. We have
2 and 10 acres which have been in the
[27:54]
family for 85 years and our boundary has
about a quarter of a mile adjoined plan
[28:03]
uh solar
project. that plan uh which I've seen
[28:08]
several places
uh showed 150 ft or 50 yards from our
[28:15]
property. They said they would improve
this
[28:19]
situation. Have I've not seen an
improved plan until a few minutes ago.
[28:25]
Uh they gave me the approved plan which
is 250 ft which is probably 200 feet
[28:33]
less than I would like to see.
You have probably seen the solar project
[28:39]
off road
49 on the way to Chase City. This is one
[28:45]
and a half miles from the main
stoplight in Chase City. And you if you
[28:52]
go there, you can see how bad that looks
at about 450 ft from the highway. And
[28:59]
you can imagine how it would
look 150 feet or 50 yards from our
[29:08]
property. Uh I had uh given
a a report to the
[29:17]
u Mr. Hendris which I won't read now. I
think y'all have already it's been
[29:23]
distributed to you. But there has been
some
[29:27]
discussions about good neighbor
agreements. Uh there was one at the last
[29:33]
meeting here. Also articles have been
written in the local paper. Uh I would
[29:41]
like to state here that my wife and I
have received two of these agreements.
[29:49]
Uh the first one we received probably
back in about June and uh it was seven
[29:56]
pages long and on that one my wife and I
were agreed as a uh neighbor and uh
[30:08]
uh the longwood draft is at the top of
the page. Uh, and this puts a lot of
[30:17]
restraints on us if we sign this, which
we did not. And uh I might say that I
[30:24]
have not been
contacted by the solar company
[30:30]
personally over the phone to discuss
this, but it did show up in my mailbox
[30:37]
uh
postmarked and it has a lot of
[30:43]
uh requirements on us not to talk about
this, not to complain.
[30:50]
uh the uh setback of 150 ft was in the
agreement which now they say they
[30:56]
changed it to 250. And also it's a
secret thing. I'm not supposed to be
[31:01]
telling anybody about this. And uh I'm
not bound to that because I didn't sign
[31:07]
it. Has a place on here for us to sign.
And then on here
[31:13]
also it has a place that we can uh
return this to seven bridges solar that
[31:22]
general council in San
Francisco.
[31:28]
Uh and also on here the payment to be
made to us is two payments, one for
[31:35]
$2,000 and one for $10,000.
Uh the second one we got
[31:41]
uh we got it fairly right after the last
meeting we had here. Uh and it's a
[31:49]
little bit strange. It's addressed in
pencil
[31:54]
uh to 63 Scots
Crossroads
[31:59]
23194. There's no name on here to say
who it's coming to. It doesn't mention
[32:05]
uh Chase City, Virginia. Uh it's just
crudely like this. And uh Mr. Grizz, I'm
[32:14]
I'm going to have to stop you now. I'm
sorry. Okay. But uh I will stop. But
[32:21]
only thing I will tell you that this
went from
[32:24]
$12,000 to
$100,000 on the money.
[32:31]
Our next signed up speaker is Lisa Davis
Bishop.
[32:47]
Good morning. Good morning. Morning. My
name is Lisa Davis Bishop and I live at
[32:52]
1645 Scotch Crossroads. I've lived there
all my life. almost that maybe three
[32:58]
years I was not there.
Um I would ask that each of you please
[33:05]
approach this from my point of view. Do
unto others as you would have them do
[33:11]
unto you. Put yourself in my
shoes that you're going to lose your
[33:17]
home to
[33:20]
this. I ask that you please vote against
the solar project on Scotch Crossroads.
[33:25]
The reasons I'm opposed are numerous.
Solar is not effective or efficient. At
[33:32]
most, they are 16% effective, which is
dismal. Where would they be disposed of
[33:37]
once they're used? No landfill will
accept
[33:41]
them. Solar projects are paid by the
acre, paid for by the acre by the
[33:46]
government. So, we all will pay to
further enrich the land owner, Dominion,
[33:51]
and Long Road or Seven Bridges. uh none
of whom need more
[33:55]
money. This is being done to provide a
thin veneer of green to Dominion,
[34:00]
Microsoft, and the data centers. Our
electric bills will actually go up. Let
[34:05]
that sink in. They will actually go up.
We will be subject to brownouts that
[34:11]
such as the ones that just occurred in
Spain and
[34:14]
Portugal. Keep in mind, we now have
Amish families who have moved in on 47
[34:18]
and Scotch crossroads who will be run
down by the work trucks.
[34:23]
Not to mention the trash. Please go down
Spanish Grove Road if you want to see
[34:28]
what it looks like when the solar panel
people come to you a location near
[34:32]
you. It's the biggest mess you've ever
seen. It's so
[34:37]
sad. There will be no jobs for
Meckllinmberg County. The workers will
[34:41]
come in from somewhere else. They might
stay in South Hill temporarily, but
[34:46]
Chase City will get nothing but the
blight of solar panels that no one
[34:49]
wants. No one will go to Graham's
Hardware from Longwood for supplies. If
[34:54]
solar panels were so great, they'd be
having them all over the county,
[34:57]
including South Hill and Clarksville,
not just Chase City. I'm very
[35:02]
disappointed that I even have to come
here and talk about this. I thought I
[35:06]
had to take off work to be here
today. I I I find it unbelievable that I
[35:11]
have to come and and and
beg to stop outside interests from
[35:16]
ruining my home.
I need you guys to do that for me. All
[35:21]
growth is not good. Please stop it.
Remember that trees are green. Cutting
[35:27]
down trees and replacing them with solar
panels is not green. You'll be creating
[35:31]
a small city on the Maharan River. Solar
panels will channel water causing
[35:36]
erosion and water quality issues. Solar
panels cannot disperse water the way a
[35:40]
tree can. And I almost forgot, solar
panels often spark fires when they
[35:45]
malfunction. I get this from a Dominion
employee. Uh, catching fire to the
[35:51]
grasses under them. Won't that be a mess
to clean up for us? Meckllinburgg County
[35:55]
will get to clean it up. To me, the
solar promise is a beautiful lie. It's
[36:00]
too good to be true. You want to believe
that beautiful lie, but it's not true.
[36:05]
The ugly truth is it doesn't work
efficiently. And those who profit will
[36:10]
care nothing about the people that live
on Scotch Crossroads or Chase City or
[36:14]
Meckllinburgg County. You know, the ones
that will have to suffer the
[36:18]
consequences if this abomination is
allowed to continue. Please might save
[36:22]
my home on a quiet farm surrounded by
peaceful neighbors and other farmers.
[36:27]
Meckllinburgg County needs farms. We do
not need solar
[36:31]
panels. I'm afraid they just want their
foot in the door and this thing will
[36:35]
expand and blow up exponentially. And if
you want to
[36:38]
conserve land by the Maharan River, you
can conserve all of it by rejecting this
[36:43]
project.
Thank you so much for your time. Thank
[36:47]
you.
[36:52]
Let
me before our next speaker, let me
[36:56]
remind y'all uh please don't have any
applause, anything. And uh regardless or
[37:01]
you dislike what the person is saying or
you totally endorse what they're saying,
[37:06]
you know, we're not we're not at a
national championship game here. We're
[37:10]
here to have a public hearing to uh let
people express
[37:15]
themselves. So uh please keep that in
mind if you would. The next signed up
[37:20]
speaker is Susan Mullen.
[37:35]
Good morning.
My name is Susan Spalding M Mullen and I
[37:41]
grew up in Chase City with my parents
and both my maternal and paternal
[37:45]
grandparents. It was a wonderful place
to grow up. But today when I visit Chase
[37:51]
City, I leave sad. Coming through Chase
City this morning, I see that Pallet One
[37:57]
is closing.
[38:01]
Chase City used to be the most populous
town in the county.
[38:05]
But today it's not the same. Clarksville
has the lake and good
[38:11]
restaurants. South Hill has the
interstate and restaurants. Betton has
[38:16]
the county
seat. Chase City does not have any of
[38:20]
that. And the first thing I want to say
is Chase City needs additional sources
[38:27]
of income for a new elementary school.
hopefully with solar panels on the
[38:32]
roof, perhaps high teacher pay, perhaps
a municipal park, anything to brighten
[38:39]
its future. Chase City desperately needs
this project. Secondly, I believe in
[38:46]
solar power. Solar energy is clean, it's
affordable, and it is part of the energy
[38:54]
mix we need today.
But the fact and and sadly it's so sad
[39:02]
that Grasshopper poisoned the well in J
City for so long. But the fact that Long
[39:08]
Road is still here after eight years is
because they know they have the right
[39:14]
site and have been willing to work with
local residents and officials to address
[39:19]
any and all concerns. This is a
winwin. Chase City needs it. We need the
[39:26]
clean power and we need the revenue for
Chase City. In closing, I'd like to
[39:31]
leave you with my favorite
quote. If God had wanted us to have
[39:37]
unlimited free power, he would have put
a massive fusion reactor in the
[39:43]
sky. I'm closed. Thank
you. The next speaker is John Mullen.
[40:03]
Good morning. My name is John Mullen.
I'm here on behalf of my family. Uh
[40:06]
Susan and I reside in Charlotte County.
Um eight years ago, we began working
[40:13]
with Long Road Energy on the Seven
Bridges project. They've been a great
[40:16]
partner in addressing concerns raised by
the citizens in this portion of in this
[40:21]
portion of Meckllinburgg County. Long
Road has a contract to purchase 1,250
[40:26]
acres of a 7 2750 acre timber track
owned by my family in the J City area of
[40:32]
Meckllinburgg County.
One side of the solar project will
[40:36]
continue to be managed as a 1500 acre
timber tract and another side will be
[40:41]
bounded by the 250 acre permanent
easement along the South Maron River.
[40:46]
The project also is also adjacent to a
600 acre track owned by Microsoft which
[40:51]
has been reszoned for industrial
development. Some of the pre-eread
[40:55]
material indicated this track contain
quote prime farmland. Uh while there may
[41:01]
be selected portions that fall into that
category, it's been managed as a timber
[41:05]
track for over a hundred years because
that was the highest and best use for
[41:09]
this property rather than farming until
the seven bridges solar development
[41:13]
option came along. I farm corn,
soybeans, and winter wheat in Charlotte
[41:19]
County. And I can assure you that the
vast majority of this tract is not quote
[41:23]
prime farmland close quote. Chairman
Jennings um also farms next to the tract
[41:29]
and I believe he might agree. Um there
are already two transmission lines
[41:33]
running through the Mullen family
holdings track and we've just signed an
[41:37]
agreement with Dominion Power to provide
a rightway for a third transmission
[41:41]
line. As you know, one of the main
requirements for a solar project is
[41:44]
access and transmission. So experts
knowledgeable about solar think that the
[41:49]
seven bridges site is one of the best if
not the best solar sites in the entire
[41:54]
state.
Uh while there's some controversy about
[41:58]
this obviously from prior speakers um
because of the timber that u is mature
[42:04]
that will form the border uh this site
actually is probably not visible except
[42:10]
by air and traffic congestion congestion
during construction will be mitigated by
[42:15]
entrances from both Route 49 and Scots
Crossroad with Route 49 designated for
[42:20]
heavy loads. The seven bridges project
is clearly the highest and best use for
[42:25]
this portion of my family's holding my
family's property and it's been
[42:29]
greenlighted twice by the planning
commission including affirmation that
[42:33]
our 2232 is grandfathered as part of the
2500 acre solar set aside that predates
[42:40]
the updated long range plan for
Mechenburgg County.
[42:44]
We've been good stewards of this
property for the past 33 years and I
[42:48]
firmly believe Long Road will continue
that tradition if this project moves
[42:52]
forward. Hopefully the board will
recognize the significant personal
[42:55]
property rights associated with the
quote highest and best use concept close
[42:59]
quote particularly given Long Road to
Energy's efforts to address express
[43:04]
concerns and the long-term investment
this project represents not just for my
[43:08]
family of Chase City but for mechany's
business community and its use of
[43:13]
electricity. Thank you for your time and
consideration. Thank you. Next speaker
[43:19]
is Joel Cathy.
[43:33]
Good morning. Good morning. My name is
Joel Kathy. I live in Keysville,
[43:37]
Virginia. Um I'm I'm a forest land owner
in Meckllinburgg County. Um
[43:45]
I've been a forester in Southside
Virginia for the past 45 years. Um, I'm
[43:49]
past president of Virginia Forestry
Association. I served two terms on the
[43:53]
board of directors for the Department of
Forestry. I've been fortunate to have
[43:58]
managed the land being proposed for this
solar farm since the Mullen family
[44:01]
purchased this land about 33 years ago.
I'm probably as familiar with this piece
[44:05]
of property as anybody in this room.
Long Road has listened to the concerns
[44:10]
and feedback from both Charlotte from
both the county and the citizens has
[44:14]
made numerous changes which have made
the layout even
[44:18]
better. I've looked at the buffers and
the management plans for the buffers.
[44:22]
This site will be nearly invisible from
the public perspective. I agree with
[44:27]
Dominion Power that there's no better
site in the state of Virginia than this
[44:32]
one. that the economics of growing pine
trees on private land have become more
[44:37]
and more difficult. Just last week,
George Pacific announced closure of a
[44:41]
plywood plant in
Emporia. The over the last 30 years, the
[44:47]
prices that land owners receive for pine
logs and pulpwood has not kept pace with
[44:51]
inflation. The shutdown will only make
matters worse. Yet, property taxes
[44:56]
continue to go
up. To me, I view this issue issue as
[45:01]
one of personal property rights. the
fundamental right to make decisions on
[45:06]
what is done with the land that you own
as long as it doesn't interfere with
[45:13]
neighbors. The solar farm on this land
will affect no one else. To me, I mean,
[45:18]
seven bridges solar provided a lot of
money would will provide a lot of money
[45:22]
for member county and town of Chase
City. This will help keep property taxes
[45:26]
down for all the citizens of the county.
It's time to move this project forward.
[45:30]
Thank you all for your time. Thank you.
Next speaker is Cody. Uh, is this Snare?
[45:46]
I'm with DevCom Power. We were awarded
the job a couple years ago. So, I just
[45:51]
wanted to come up here and, you know,
tell you a little bit about uh DevCom
[45:56]
and uh just how we how we work and um
You know, I've been in Solar eight years
[46:03]
now. DEPCOM's been around about 15. Uh,
it started out as a disabled
[46:09]
veteranowned company and it's moved on
to other things now. But,
[46:12]
uh, at the peak of everything, we'll
probably be at about 150 to 175 people
[46:17]
out here. Most of the employees
hopefully will be slotted from the
[46:22]
general area. Um, if we get to a point
where we need to expand, then it will
[46:27]
expand in Virginia. It will not expand
outside of that.
[46:31]
We do live our lives and our company
from a principalbased management. So we
[46:37]
take pride in what we do. Um we are all
over the country. We're all over uh the
[46:43]
world actually. We've built in uh Puerto
Rico and uh I actually am looking at a
[46:48]
job down there now. So we're very very
good at what we do. Uh we do take pride
[46:54]
in in our work and ensuring that the
locals
[46:59]
are taken care of to the best of our
ability and uh yeah I just wanted to
[47:05]
come up here and say my piece. I
appreciate
[47:10]
everybody. The next speaker is Karen
Drosiaak.
[47:26]
Good morning. My name is Karen Drosiaak.
I'm with First Solar. We are the largest
[47:31]
American solar technology and solar
manufacturing company. We are proud to
[47:36]
be a supplier of the solar modules for
the Seven Bridges project. Um, solar is
[47:42]
very much real. We wouldn't be standing
here 26 years later. Um we were founded
[47:47]
back in 1999. More than 65% of new
electricity generation uh installed last
[47:54]
year was solar. And that's because it is
affordable and it is the fastest
[48:00]
electricity generation that can be
deployed. Not only is it um real, but it
[48:06]
can be manufactured here in America. And
I'm not just talking about imported from
[48:10]
abroad and assembled here. I'm talking
about a sheet of glass goes in at one of
[48:15]
our factories and a completed solar
module comes out about three hours
[48:19]
later. We're not just manufacturing
here, but we've built a domestic
[48:24]
American supply chain with uh soda ash
and and silica miners supplying the raw
[48:30]
materials for the glass that we use in
our products. Um, we're creating real
[48:36]
long-term jobs all across our value
chain which are supporting our
[48:41]
facilities and supporting projects like
these. Um, our Ohio facilities, we have
[48:47]
three Ohio facilities which have
received the highest recognition from
[48:51]
the Ohio EPA, the encouraging
environmental excellence award, uh,
[48:56]
platinum award. So, we are proud to be
doing solar the right way. We also have
[49:02]
been recycling for for 20 years now. So
we established the industry's first
[49:07]
global recycling program back in 2005
and we've been recycling ever since.
[49:13]
Recovering the semiconductor material
and reusing it in new panels. Our
[49:18]
technology is not a new technology. It
is a prudent one which has been safely
[49:23]
operating in the field for more than 20
years. It has been installed on drinking
[49:28]
water facilities in Berlin, Germany, and
is a technology of choice for leading
[49:33]
utilities and energy providers. Thank
you.
[49:38]
Next speaker is Matt Karns.
[49:44]
Good morning. Uh my name is Matt Karns.
I live at 34 Johnson Road in Falmouth,
[49:50]
Maine, but I've spent um a lot of time
in Meckllinmberg County since 2017 when
[49:57]
we negotiated the land agreement with
Mr. Mullen. Um I've had the pleasure of
[50:02]
of working with y'all and have uh really
appreciated uh the hospitality for
[50:07]
investment in this community. Um I think
I'm I'm very proud of what Cliff and his
[50:13]
team have done here. Um, I liken the
seven bridges project kind of like going
[50:17]
to the
optometrist and when the doctor says,
[50:21]
"Is this right or is this right?" We
knew the project wasn't right when we
[50:25]
started. We had a we came in with whole
cloth. Solar projects are never perfect.
[50:30]
And then we started listening. And when
we started listening, we realized there
[50:35]
was concern about Scots Crossroad
traffic. So, we made a change. We
[50:40]
realized there were concerns about the
Maharin River. So, we made a change. We
[50:44]
realized there were neighbor concerns.
So we shrunk the size of the project
[50:49]
50%. When you go to the optometrists,
you hopefully come out with the perfect
[50:53]
view and the perfect outcome. These
projects are never perfect, but this
[50:58]
project is born out of feedback from
this community. So we think this is the
[51:02]
perfect solar project for this
community. It has been shaped by public
[51:06]
input from day one. I'll give you two
numbers. The first is eight. That's the
[51:13]
number of years that we've been working
on this project. The second is 10
[51:17]
million and that's the number of dollars
that we've invested in this project with
[51:22]
power investment with long lead ter long
lead time commitments and we have
[51:28]
invested in this county through the
relationships that we formed with
[51:31]
neighbors with businesses who we now
count as friends. And I think u I just
[51:37]
would say this is a project that is
about this county now. It is about the
[51:44]
fingerprints of local people who have
informed what it's going to look like,
[51:49]
how it's going to work, and if it's not
working, we're going to be here to fix
[51:53]
it because we own and operate these
projects. So I would just say this is
[51:59]
about the perfect moment in time to say
we've been at it for eight years. Let's
[52:05]
approve this project and move forward
because it's by for and about the people
[52:09]
of this county. Thank you very much. I
appreciate it. Thank you. Next speaker
[52:14]
is
[52:23]
Tom. Good morning. I'm Tom Y. I'm from
McKenna, Virginia. Originally from
[52:29]
Kimbridge, Virginia, just north of
Meckllinburgg. Um, I am on the board
[52:34]
member of Evergreen Team. Um, I'm here
with Sharon Flowers, um, who is also an
[52:39]
employee of Evergreen Team and she's a
native of Meckllinmberg County. Um, I
[52:44]
formed Evergreen Team in 2012 as an
environmental nonprofit land trust. Um,
[52:52]
since that time, we have grown to be the
largest land trust, private land trust
[52:58]
in the state of Virginia.
We're very proud of that. We have
[53:02]
conserved over 52,000 acres statewide
with a focus in Southside Virginia. In
[53:09]
Meckllinmberg County alone, we have
conserved over 2,400 acres in
[53:13]
conservation easements. And that's in
perpetuity. That's saving farmlands and
[53:19]
timberlands. We work with land owners,
military bases. We're very close
[53:26]
partners with the Ward Burton Wall
Foundation. We work with veteran groups
[53:30]
and we have environmental education
programs for
[53:34]
use. We have also evaluated renewable
energy projects throughout the state of
[53:39]
Virginia and Pennsylvania. Many many
projects that include both solar and
[53:45]
wind turbine projects. Most of those we
would say we would not approve and um
[53:51]
have have worked against those because
of numerous environmental issues.
[53:58]
But after evaluating this long road
energy
[54:01]
project, we say they are doing it
correctly. They are helping the
[54:06]
environment through many different
ways. Through thorough and thoughtful
[54:11]
planning, they're minimizing
environmental issues. They're enhancing
[54:15]
biodiversity and wildlife corridors. And
they're accounting for aesthetics and
[54:20]
visual
integration. They do this in numerous
[54:23]
ways. One, as Cliff had said, they are
conserving 250 acres of land between um
[54:32]
the solar panels and the South Maharan
River. And that's where Evergreen is is
[54:36]
helping. We are going to help them
conserve that in
[54:39]
perpetuity, never to be developed,
always there as a buffer past even past
[54:45]
this
project that exceeds the state
[54:50]
guidelines.
We're proud that it protects wildlife
[54:54]
and biodiversity through habitat
conservation and
[54:58]
mitigation. Evergreen team will also use
that 250 acres to do recreation with
[55:04]
wounded
warriors. We do a lot with wounded
[55:07]
warriors from hunting, fishing, and
camping. Other ways this helps the
[55:14]
environment is that it is reducing
chemical chemicals and it uses
[55:19]
sustainable ground cover management.
We have reviewed the erosion control
[55:24]
measures and has done very
well. And what we really like about this
[55:30]
project is that U Long Road Energy is
with this project and committed to this
[55:35]
project from start to
finish. We think this project will
[55:41]
contribute well to the local community
and it will be an asset to the
[55:44]
Meckllinburgg County and the
environment. Thank you.
[55:50]
Next speaker is Matt
[56:07]
English Matt English um 246 Dean John's
Place
[56:13]
Appamatics. Ladies and gentlemen, the
board staff, it's good to see everybody
[56:17]
again. I think I visited y'all. Uh I
think it was sometime back in the
[56:22]
winter. I come here today
um and tell you that uh Seven Bridges is
[56:29]
probably one of the most proactive
professional organizations that I've
[56:33]
ever dealt with. I come to you today to
tell you that I'm a farmer like many
[56:37]
people you sitting on the board, many
people out here in the audience. Anyway,
[56:41]
several years ago, I had the opportunity
to farm under solar. I didn't know how
[56:47]
that was going to go. Neither did Solar
Company. And several years later, I
[56:53]
recently got awarded the Climate Smart
Award program award. That award is given
[56:59]
to one out of 150 recipients in the
nation and I am one of 150 and I take
[57:06]
that proudly as a seventh generation
farmer anyway to receive that award.
[57:11]
Still three of us foreman. We farm in
four counties. Closest here will be
[57:16]
Charlotte County. When I come out of the
Charlotte County forum, I look and
[57:21]
there's a sign right there and way and
it tells how far it is from Chase City.
[57:25]
Man, I like take a left, come over here
and form. I hope y'all give me the
[57:29]
opportunity to do it. Several people
spoke in opposition and said they're
[57:34]
taking away the
farmland. All this land under solar
[57:38]
panels will be formed. I hope with my
sheep, maybe some other
[57:44]
neighbors. There's a lot of land. It's
good fence. Bow string tight. The
[57:50]
livestock don't get out in the highway.
Stop the school buses and you'll commute
[57:53]
to
work. The grass is better than most of
[57:57]
our farms cuz these people got pockets
deeper than mine. And they can afford
[58:00]
better grass, better fertiliz, and
better lime than I can and many other
[58:04]
folks can too. If you want to preservate
farmland in the
[58:11]
community and help local
farmers and wounded warriors come and
[58:16]
hunt and
fish, then you do your obligation, what
[58:21]
you were voted on to do, and you approve
this. Hopefully next time we'll meet up
[58:27]
there at the forum and I'll show you
some sheep and beautiful
[58:30]
grass. Thank y'all.
The next speaker is Brenda Walker.
[58:53]
Good morning. Morning. Hope everyone's
having a good day. And I just come as a
[58:58]
resident of Meckllinburgg County. I've
lived here all my life. And I hope each
[59:03]
and every one of you will think about
this deeply before you make your
[59:08]
decisions. This is a big thing for the
county, but we want to save the
[59:14]
agriculture, too.
We don't want to waste the lands that we
[59:19]
have. God doesn't make more land. This
is all we have. And we are here and we
[59:25]
are to preserve it and we're here to
take care of it. And I would like to
[59:29]
speak against the solar project as I did
when they tried to get it on 3362 Old
[59:36]
Cox
Road. It's a mess. You can look at the
[59:40]
others. There's not a good result
anywhere that I've seen. And I've seen
[59:46]
all the trash and all the trashy people
that come in to work these projects and
[59:52]
all the mud and the dirt that they bring
into the businesses in Chase
[59:56]
City and they could care
less. So please take this deeply and ask
[1:00:03]
as we would ask Jesus, what would you
do? This is your land. Thank you.
[1:00:12]
Next speaker is Charles
[1:00:25]
Jackson. I just brought this with me. I
don't have anything written down.
[1:00:29]
Morning, Mr. Chairman and board. Um I'm
not a great speaker, but I'm just here
[1:00:34]
to oppose the solar project.
Um, I've got solar panels on my house. I
[1:00:41]
had them on six years ago. I got talked
into it by a slick talking guy. And the
[1:00:47]
day that they come and put them in, I
couldn't find him. Uh, I couldn't find
[1:00:51]
anybody. They did a mess. I regret it,
but I got talked into
[1:00:57]
it. I think you need to do a lot more
thought and, you know, discussion about
[1:01:03]
these. It might be a good thing, but I
just I'm here to oppose it and I wish
[1:01:08]
you would think about it real hard
before you make your decision. Thank
[1:01:14]
you. The next speaker is Judy Brothers.
[1:01:28]
Hello, I'm Judy Brothers. I'm president
of the Friends of the Maharin River
[1:01:32]
Group.
put my eyes on
[1:01:35]
here. The sighting for this project is
completely inappropriate for a lot of
[1:01:40]
the same reasons as the Antlers Road
project was.
[1:01:45]
Also, the Maharin River is the municipal
water supply for Emporia, Virginia. In
[1:01:51]
2022, I spoke with an employee for the
town who stated that the reservoir was
[1:01:56]
already 25% silted out and creating
issues for the town water supply at that
[1:02:02]
time.
The erosion issues are real. And
[1:02:05]
recently, the Foxhound Project, which is
Long Road Energy in Halifax County with
[1:02:10]
53 failed water ponds, hired the erosion
company, which cites
[1:02:18]
renewables with a picture of solar
panels on their website as one of their
[1:02:23]
selling points as to what they do. Um
and it says there that uh if not it's
[1:02:30]
not if but when problems will
arise. So uh the thousand foot buffer is
[1:02:36]
not enough as the neighbor to
Grasshopper had erosion
[1:02:41]
issues and damage to their ponds and it
was many more than a thousand feet away.
[1:02:48]
And we know that Butcher Creek has been
putting out a plume of silt into the
[1:02:52]
lake some 10 miles away with no fix in
sight. And we have drone footage of
[1:02:57]
that, by the way.
Um, in 2012, the Scenic River
[1:03:02]
report lists that the Maharin is a
threatened and endangered species water
[1:03:09]
on the western mo most end, which is
where this project is, and is rated by
[1:03:14]
the
VDGIF that uh this section is contains
[1:03:19]
two state and globally significant
natural heritage resources that occur at
[1:03:24]
three locations along the study segment.
Um the historical significance of this
[1:03:30]
area has been vastly
understated. We have Spring Bank and
[1:03:35]
Ravenscraftoft Plantation which used to
attach to the Maharin. It's within a
[1:03:41]
mile or so from this site. Um and there
are five historical gris mills
[1:03:47]
associated with this area as well. We
have Burwell's Mill, Rocky Mill, Reeks
[1:03:52]
Mill, Hepern Mill, and Mill Grove. Uh,
Colonel Burwell was a resident at that
[1:03:58]
home. He also uh was a prominent figure
along with Colonel Oliver and Bacon and
[1:04:05]
with their headquarters were scattered
throughout the area too. Those are on a
[1:04:09]
map you can see. Um, Colonel
Burwell also built Stone Land which
[1:04:15]
burned down. This was on the other side
of this project more south. when
[1:04:20]
Stoneland burned down later all those
stones were moved to Macallum and that's
[1:04:24]
what they made Macallumore out of was
those stones. So there's a significant
[1:04:30]
it's a lot of history in that area that
goes with all this uh something maybe
[1:04:34]
that the county could use for uh future
you know visitors to come and see. Um
[1:04:43]
and again the sighting for this project
is totally inappropriate. It endangers
[1:04:48]
the community and its resources with
admitted forever chemicals in the solar
[1:04:53]
panels plus the erosion issue. Please
vote no on this project. Thank you.
[1:04:58]
Thank you.
Next speaker is Monty High Tower.
[1:05:10]
Well, thank you ladies and gentlemen of
the
[1:05:12]
board high tower 247 Autumn Lane Chase
City and for those who don't know where
[1:05:19]
Autumn Lane is is off of Spanish Grove.
Uh I walk over my back door. I'm 400 ft
[1:05:25]
from the Otter Creek Solar Project.
Uh, as that project was being built and
[1:05:31]
is now being operated, I have had no
issues whatsoever. Uh, other than a
[1:05:38]
light shine through the window, I went
to the contractors, asked them if they
[1:05:42]
could, uh, move the
light. No problem. 10 minutes after I
[1:05:49]
talked to them, the problem solved. Uh I
know that the
[1:05:57]
uh blue stone project and the
grasshopper project were one of the best
[1:06:04]
projects in the world the way they were
built. But uh the Otter Creek project is
[1:06:10]
living there beside it. I've seen no
problem. No, no problem with the traffic
[1:06:16]
on Spanish Grove. Uh, no problem with
the site
[1:06:21]
itself. Also, and I've been working with
Long Road for probably eight years. Uh,
[1:06:29]
when they first came into the area, they
came talked to me.
[1:06:33]
Uh, started talking to me about
honeybees. They want to know how many
[1:06:37]
honey bee hives that project would
support. I recommended that they were
[1:06:45]
talking about the uh using pollinator
habitat
[1:06:51]
uh over seven years. Everything I have
uh mentioned to them to improve the
[1:06:56]
project like coming out 49 they have uh
worked into their
[1:07:04]
project. So uh I think they have done
their due diligence on this project and
[1:07:11]
probably the best that you going to be
able to
[1:07:13]
find. Also with the
uh signing agreement, the $500,000 that
[1:07:21]
would come to Chase City would be
greatly appreciated and needed
[1:07:26]
because I've been a business owner in
Chase
[1:07:29]
City. Uh we're celebrating our 50th
anniversary. So I know how hard it is to
[1:07:37]
keep a business going in Chase City. And
if y'all been through CHC, y'all can see
[1:07:41]
how how Main Street is going down. I
think this project will bring a influx
[1:07:49]
of business to town which would be
fatally needed. And thank y'all. Thank
[1:07:55]
you.
The next speaker is Woody Moore.
[1:08:04]
Morning board, Mr. Chairman. My name is
Woody Moore. I live at 5189 Country Club
[1:08:09]
Drive on the Dirt Park. Um I'm against
this uh being uh uh okayed and the
[1:08:17]
reason being is uh everything that I
have seen. I hate to see people deceived
[1:08:21]
and I hear all this stuff that's being
talked about with solar. I used to think
[1:08:25]
it was a big it was the best thing
coming. I have done a lot of research on
[1:08:29]
solar and I've done a lot of research on
what's happening right here in this
[1:08:32]
county and I can tell you right now it's
it was stated earlier 17 18% is
[1:08:39]
very probable that's all you'll ever see
out on one of these sites when it says
[1:08:44]
80 megawws uh whatever that is supposed
to mean I think they made a typo there
[1:08:49]
um there is no way that it will even
come close to it and if you don't
[1:08:53]
believe me check the grid on what comes
out of the ones that's already there and
[1:08:57]
what's being produced is nowhere near
what they claim that they're supposed to
[1:09:00]
produce. Okay, that's one. Two, and I
know Monty, I love him, but over on
[1:09:06]
Spanish Grove Road, I'm glad that he had
a good experience, but I've been over
[1:09:09]
there and seen and been across a couple
of the farms that have are affected by
[1:09:12]
the ones that are there. One, the one
project overhead doesn't work because it
[1:09:16]
came all to pieces, just like
Grasshopper has messed up and doesn't
[1:09:20]
work. Furthermore, the erosion problems
over there and uh we were roadcrop to
[1:09:26]
farmers. We never got by by with that
stuff. We had to deal with making sure
[1:09:29]
we covered that erosion situation.
Erosion over there. I've been over there
[1:09:33]
when a big storm came through on that
man's farm and the solar farm is behind
[1:09:37]
him more than a th000 ft if not more
than that. The water was coming out of
[1:09:42]
it acrossing his driveway and into his
pond over three foot deep with red mud
[1:09:47]
rolling. And we know this is a red mud
county. Everywhere it goes the red clay
[1:09:51]
is going with it. And I don't see any
way that it had holding ponds and all
[1:09:55]
this other stuff and told me, "Oh, that
takes care of it." I got pictures where
[1:09:58]
it was running around the s the the
holding ponds and so it was not and I oh
[1:10:04]
we going to do it better. Uh I would
hope that would be the case but I'm
[1:10:08]
saying it doesn't work and um I'm
totally against it in that way. I also
[1:10:13]
have uh as many have said about that. I
understand it's going into where
[1:10:17]
Timberland was. Uh but Timberland's
green even though you cut it and replace
[1:10:21]
it. is still green. The solar farm is
not green. There's nothing green about
[1:10:25]
it. There's chemicals in it that do will
at some point be an issue to deal with
[1:10:30]
if it don't ever leak out. The other one
is nobody has mentioned much about and
[1:10:33]
I've seen a lot of stuff on this lately
which I hadn't seen and I'd asked
[1:10:36]
questions about is fires and there are
those that have had fires with them and
[1:10:42]
we talk about what happens the chemicals
that's in it. what happens with the air
[1:10:46]
around the folks that live near it when
that chemical gets in the smoke or
[1:10:49]
whatever if it does burn. And two, how
do our local volunteer fire departments
[1:10:54]
gear up to be able to handle those
chemicals or whatever it may be when
[1:10:57]
they go in to deal with it? And I know
this from a tank farm near where I
[1:11:01]
pastor the church. They have to have
special foam and other things to be able
[1:11:05]
to go in there and they have to have a
way to get in the fence to be able to
[1:11:08]
deal with it because these places get
locked down in fences. So, it's a lot of
[1:11:11]
issues that are negative in my book and
so I I'm against this old
[1:11:19]
farm. The next speaker is Melanie Woods.
[1:11:29]
Okay, we have Paul Brer.
[1:11:34]
Okay. And James Jefferson.
[1:11:39]
Good morning, members of the board. My
name is James Jefferson. Um I reside at
[1:11:44]
1437 Edlas Road uh in Biton. Um the
first I want to uh say I'm gratified
[1:11:50]
that um recently there was an
application denied to uh produce solar
[1:11:54]
farm on on that road which is really
right down the road from where I live
[1:11:58]
and uh I was kind of happy about that.
Uh I've heard a lot of the pros and
[1:12:01]
cons. I heard the numbers back and
forth. Um, one thing I do know about
[1:12:05]
life is time really will be the uh best
assessor of whether this a good deal or
[1:12:10]
not. Um, again I heard the numbers I I
can't say whether they good or not. Um a
[1:12:15]
lot of times numbers are uh often put
you know given to uh to get the will at
[1:12:21]
uh what they attempting to do. But um
for me
[1:12:25]
um when you get right down to it at at
what point or what does it stop at far
[1:12:30]
as for solar farms here in Minburg
County and tying up you know the the
[1:12:34]
land real estate with that down the road
when it's all over and done with um I
[1:12:39]
think I hear some numbers what 25 30
year or whatever the project life is. uh
[1:12:43]
what happens then to that property? Uh
what happens to the uh the soil, the the
[1:12:47]
the animals that that would have
inhabited that area? So for me, um I say
[1:12:51]
I'm against it and you know, if I don't
fight it now, you know, next day it'll
[1:12:56]
be in my back door. So I rather, you
know, attempt to stop it now. Thank you.
[1:13:00]
Thank you, Mr. Chair. That is the last
person that pre-signed up to speak on
[1:13:05]
this topic.
Okay.
[1:13:11]
Uh
[1:13:19]
So, um, I certainly want to give anybody
that had, uh, wants the opportunity to
[1:13:24]
speak to go ahead and speak.
[1:13:34]
Brandon Estus, 31257, Highway 49, Chase
City,
[1:13:38]
Virginia. Why am I here? Um
there's, you know, unlike it seems like
[1:13:45]
99% of folks that are, you know, here
might have uh something to
[1:13:50]
gain or maybe lose. I don't gain any
money or lose any money with this
[1:13:56]
project or any project. Uh I'm here
because I believe that this is wrong and
[1:14:03]
I have from the beginning.
And you know, uh there's folks that have
[1:14:09]
connections that stand to make money on
things and we come up here and you know
[1:14:14]
it's understandable that we would want
to support our interests, right? But uh
[1:14:20]
I live here. I've lived here most of my
life and uh I just I I I'm trying to
[1:14:26]
find reasons to stay here. Uh I don't
you know I don't want to see my entire
[1:14:32]
county
gentrified. I stayed here because I
[1:14:35]
didn't want to go to the big city. I
didn't want to be surrounded by
[1:14:40]
corporations. And let's not, we don't
have to be naive about this.
[1:14:44]
Corporations don't have morals. They
don't care. They don't give a rip about
[1:14:48]
any of us in this room. They come here
to make money. And the people that they
[1:14:54]
send to talk to y'all, that's what
they're here to do. They're here to tell
[1:14:57]
you whatever is necessary to get you to
vote for something. They're not here to
[1:15:04]
tell you what might be true. We have
people in we have 10 different land
[1:15:08]
owners in Louisa County who are
litigating against solar farms because
[1:15:12]
of what it's done to their land. We have
uh at least one in our own county who
[1:15:18]
has won a lawsuit over the erosion
issues that are supposedly non-existent.
[1:15:26]
So
again, he who speaketh with fork tongue,
[1:15:32]
he always shows his
face. They come, they want to do
[1:15:37]
whatever is necessary to get the the
government money because like I've told
[1:15:43]
y'all before, it's a,000% subsidized
from federal government money. That is
[1:15:48]
what these companies are here to do.
What Meckllinmberg County is a ripe
[1:15:52]
morsel for the taking to be picked off
the vine and to be squosed dry and for
[1:15:58]
them to then leave as all the other sol
they told us that they would sell the
[1:16:02]
project after they're done or other this
is the typical thing that other
[1:16:07]
uh that other project starters will then
sell it to other solar companies. They
[1:16:13]
don't they don't care. They just need to
they just need you to be sweetened up
[1:16:18]
enough to pass it and then they can get
their cash and run. And that's all I
[1:16:22]
have to say today. Hope youall have a
blessed day. Thank you.
[1:16:27]
Anyone else would like to speak
concerning the sighting agreement.
[1:16:32]
Okay. You come to the podium. State your
name. I signed up on the other
[1:16:43]
you
Either one. Either one is fine.
[1:16:50]
Good morning. My name is Deborah Dantis
and I reside at 885 Scots Crossroads.
[1:16:55]
I'm here today to vehemently oppose the
Seven Bridges Solar Project. So, let's
[1:17:00]
talk about the truth. The main entrance
to this prop project is across the road
[1:17:06]
from my yard. I have spoken with several
employees and even invited them into my
[1:17:12]
home on two occasions. Howal McCabe has
visited me at my home on three separate
[1:17:17]
occasions and he has called me no less
than six times. The latest call was on
[1:17:22]
March 27th, 2025 after the planning
commission granted them permission to
[1:17:27]
proceed with the project. He called to
inform me that VOTE had mandated all
[1:17:32]
18-wheeler traffic would use the Highway
49 entrance. Prior to that, he called me
[1:17:37]
on October 29th, 2024 to inform me of
setbacks and modifications they had made
[1:17:43]
to the original
plans. On his first visit to my home, I
[1:17:47]
spoke with Hal and another man and
respectfully listened to them trying to
[1:17:50]
sell me on the solar project. They in
turn listened to my long list of
[1:17:55]
concerns and mentioned a good neighbor
agreement without going into much
[1:17:59]
detail. They left and stated that they
would be in touch. About a month later,
[1:18:03]
Hal arrived at my home and handd
delivered to me the Good Neighbor
[1:18:10]
agreement. He handed me the four-page
agreement and told me to call him when I
[1:18:15]
was ready to sign. After reading the
agreement, I knew that I would never
[1:18:19]
sign it due to the content and
restrictions. This legal document
[1:18:23]
offered $2,000 within 30 days of the
developer receiving a signed agreement
[1:18:28]
as well as an additional 10,000 as long
as the neighbor compi complies with the
[1:18:33]
obligations under the
agreement. Neighbor could not oppose
[1:18:37]
construction or development etc etc.
neighbor releases and forever discharges
[1:18:43]
developer together with its affiliates
and employees, contractors, etc., etc.
[1:18:48]
from and against any and all complaints,
claims, liabilities, etc. of any nature
[1:18:54]
whatsoever which are based upon arising
from or relating to the location of the
[1:18:58]
project, construction, development,
permitting of the project, including but
[1:19:02]
not limited to noise, dust, and traffic.
Both parties agreed to keep this
[1:19:07]
agreement and the contents, including
the payment, strictly
[1:19:10]
confidential. I called Hal and told him
that there was no way that I would ever
[1:19:14]
sign that agreement. He replied that he
knew that I would not sign because of my
[1:19:18]
previous concerns and stated that he
would pass along this information to his
[1:19:23]
boss and stated that between you and me,
this is negotiable.
[1:19:28]
I did in fact receive a phone call from
his boss, but I immediately told him I
[1:19:33]
was opposed to the Seven Bridges Solar
Project and that nothing he could say
[1:19:37]
would make me change my mind. The truth
is Long Road Energy did have a good
[1:19:42]
neighbor agreement. It was not
implemented because no one accepted it.
[1:19:47]
The truth is those that support solar
are benefiting
[1:19:52]
financially and they also do not have a
solar
[1:19:56]
project in their front yard or on the
road that they live
[1:20:01]
on. Also, the electric companies
receive, and this figure may be off, but
[1:20:05]
it's very close, $56,000 per acre of
solar and subsidies from the state of
[1:20:11]
Virginia. They in turn offer thousands
of dollars to nonprofit organizations in
[1:20:16]
your area, to schools, small towns, and
offer bribes in the form of good
[1:20:21]
neighbor agreements. They are making
these donations with our tax money. And
[1:20:28]
guess what? Our electric bills keep
going up. I leave this with you this
[1:20:33]
final thought.
If solar is so great, why is it
[1:20:38]
necessary for them to bribe their way
into our communities? Thank you.
[1:20:44]
Thank you.
Anyone else wishing to speak on this?
[1:20:54]
Good morning. My name is Pauline Keaton.
I reside at 121 West Third Street, J
[1:20:59]
City. And I stand before you as a
product of Meckllinmberg County, a
[1:21:06]
resident of Chase City, and a member of
Chase City Town
[1:21:11]
Council. I've seen the community go from
thriving
[1:21:16]
to fairly existing
sometimes.
[1:21:21]
Um there's sometimes very little traffic
in and out of the town. Uh things have
[1:21:28]
changed a lot from the times that Chase
City was the thriving community, but I'm
[1:21:34]
here today to solicit support for
endorsement of the solar projects that
[1:21:39]
are here for your vote
today. We live in an area with limited,
[1:21:45]
very limited resources. And these
resources come mostly from taxpayers
[1:21:50]
dollars and these monies can only go so
far. By the time we cover maintenance
[1:21:56]
and repair cost, there's very little
left for much needed improvements and uh
[1:22:04]
modernization. Revenue from outside
sources is welcome and needed to help
[1:22:09]
keep things
afloat. This project has been supportive
[1:22:13]
of activities in our town and promises
to continue to support us in the future.
[1:22:20]
I strongly encourage the board to
approve the solar initiative as this
[1:22:25]
would be a plus for the town and for the
county. And as you vote today, please
[1:22:30]
remember that a vote for this project
can have positive implications for
[1:22:35]
Meckllinburgg County. Thank you for your
consideration and for allowing me time
[1:22:40]
to speak.
Thank you.
[1:22:50]
Good morning. I'm Jeannie Gohagen. I
live in I own a home in Chase City. I
[1:22:56]
work for John and Susan Mullen and I
have worked for them for 35 years plus.
[1:23:02]
I've known Susan and John all my life.
They are good people. They would not put
[1:23:07]
in something that would harm the area.
They have studied this as well as y'all
[1:23:13]
have, as well as Seven Bridges has. They
know it's the right thing to do. They
[1:23:19]
also have solar in their home. It is
supported by 180 kilowatt field. It is
[1:23:26]
right behind their house, you see it. If
you go by their house, it is not bad
[1:23:31]
looking. It enhances the
area. There's nothing wrong with it.
[1:23:39]
they support it. I'm just here to say
I've seen in Chase City the activity
[1:23:45]
that's created from the other solar
farms. Yes, they were not done
[1:23:50]
correctly. There are some
problems. The um Grasshopper went in on
[1:23:55]
a year where we had eight floods. So,
you can imagine any construction site
[1:24:00]
during a period of eight floods is going
to cause problems. Your home
[1:24:05]
construction site can cause the same
kind of problems.
[1:24:09]
I've gotten to know the people at Seven
Bridges. They're good people. They've
[1:24:14]
been here. They've been working hard to
support this
[1:24:17]
project. I, for one, thought, "Oh my
god, Chase City is going to be the
[1:24:22]
hottest town on the planet." I had no
clue. I started coming to these meetings
[1:24:26]
and I learned so much. It's not that
way. And with the Microsoft coming in
[1:24:34]
and the strain on the power grids, we've
got to have alternate uses. We've got to
[1:24:41]
find alternate power. And to me,
harnessing the sun is a no-brainer. So,
[1:24:46]
please think about it good and hard.
Yes, take your time, make a good
[1:24:51]
informed decision, but believe in solar.
Thank you. Thank you.
[1:25:01]
Good morning. I think it's still
morning, isn't
[1:25:04]
it? Hey y'all, board of supervisors.
Glad to be in front of you. I have to
[1:25:09]
say first, I'd like to thank you again
for your support of the Mecca Theater in
[1:25:13]
Chase City, my life's mission. Today
though, I'm here to support Seven
[1:25:18]
Bridges and their tireless mission to
see their project a reality in Chase
[1:25:23]
City.
They have responded positively to every
[1:25:27]
complaint and want to partner with us in
bringing solar to our community. Keyword
[1:25:32]
partner. We will need every source we
can get for the Microsoft project.
[1:25:38]
Traditional solar and
nuclear. And just remember, if we don't
[1:25:44]
do solar, we're going to need more
nuclear.
[1:25:47]
Also, I now have fear that we will
finish the theater and have no town
[1:25:55]
left. In recent months, we have lost
stores like roses and now another
[1:26:00]
business is closing. As you've heard
this morning, pallet one. I think there
[1:26:04]
38 jobs that are going by the wayside.
And I frankly don't know what those
[1:26:08]
people are going to do to
live. If we have no jobs, where will the
[1:26:13]
folks work? The cost of living is
increasing because of Microsoft and
[1:26:18]
there are few job fewer jobs by the day.
We need partners in the rebuilding of
[1:26:23]
Chase City. Now, Seven Bridges is
reliable, trustworthy, and innovative.
[1:26:29]
Please vote yes today. Bet on Seven
Bridges. Please bet on Chase City. I did
[1:26:35]
bring with me three pages of uh for you,
which are a petition. I did one in Chase
[1:26:42]
City. my cousin Elellanar Washington who
lives on Scott Cross state one in her
[1:26:48]
area showing support. The last thing I
want to say is I know it's difficult
[1:26:54]
being in your position but remember
remember how difficult it was with the
[1:26:59]
high school making
decisions but also go back to something
[1:27:04]
bigger which may have been appropriate
balance. Can you imagine how difficult
[1:27:09]
it was to vote the damn into this
area? Important things are hard to
[1:27:16]
decide
on. I leave this with you. I know that
[1:27:20]
you will vote with your brain and your
heart. Thank you.
[1:27:25]
Thank you.
[1:27:35]
My name is Ryan Brankley. I've been a
citizen of this county for 40 years and
[1:27:40]
Chase City uh specifically. I've seen a
lot of change in this county in the last
[1:27:47]
15 years. I think we all know that
there's there's a power issue in this
[1:27:51]
county with with the advancements of
Microsoft. Um I also think we know that
[1:27:56]
this solar project is not the answer to
those power issues that we have. I would
[1:28:02]
uh appreciate your opposition of this.
I've watched a lot of people get up here
[1:28:06]
today who are not from this county and
who are not do not reside in this county
[1:28:12]
in support of this and I would really
appreciate y'all taking that in
[1:28:16]
consideration in y'all's vote. Thank
you. Thank
[1:28:20]
you.
[1:28:24]
Anyone else wishing to speak on the
sighting agreement in this public
[1:28:28]
hearing?
[1:28:36]
Good morning, Dusty Forbes, the town
manager at Chase
[1:28:39]
City. This
subject is a sticky one and I know it's
[1:28:46]
going to take a lot of thought and
consideration from the board on this.
[1:28:50]
Yes, the gentleman was correct. There
are people who are going to receive a
[1:28:54]
financial benefit from this solar
project. And yes, Chase City looks to be
[1:28:59]
one of the recipients of that financial
benefit. Chase City's operating budget
[1:29:05]
is about $3.9 million a year for
everything. South Hill's operating
[1:29:13]
budget this year is $41 million.
[1:29:18]
Clarksville's operating budget is $10
million. And I hesitate to say that the
[1:29:25]
county's operating budget is over $100
million. So when you think that $500,000
[1:29:32]
won't make an impact on Chase City,
you're wrong. It will. And I know that
[1:29:37]
there are people opposed to this. And
yes, I hate that we have to look out for
[1:29:41]
external dollars, but Chase City just
does not have the funds or the money any
[1:29:47]
other way. We can't tax our way out of
it. We can't increase rates because
[1:29:51]
people can't afford to pay the increased
rates that we have to charge in Chase
[1:29:55]
City. The infrastructure is 100 years
old. I have water leaks every week. I
[1:29:59]
have sewer leaks about once a month. We
have to fix those things. And without
[1:30:04]
the funds to do it, we can't operate the
town. And if we don't operate the town,
[1:30:08]
it goes away and then it becomes the
county's problem. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:30:18]
Anyone
[1:30:21]
else? Hearing no one, uh we will close
the public
[1:30:27]
hearing. This is election district 7. It
is my
[1:30:33]
district and after conducting a duly
advertised public
[1:30:38]
hearing, I would like to make the motion
that it is hereby resolved by the
[1:30:42]
Meckllinburgg County Board of
Supervisors that the sighting agreement
[1:30:45]
with Seven Bridges Solar
LLC for the Seven Bridges Solar
[1:30:51]
Facility, which sighting agreement set
forth certain conditions profered by the
[1:30:57]
applicant as part of the negotiation
between the County and the applicant
[1:31:02]
pursuant to Virginia Code section
[1:31:10]
15.2-2316.8 is rejected in the form this
day
[1:31:15]
presented to my other board members.
That means a yes
[1:31:20]
vote rejects the sighting
agreement. Any discussion from the
[1:31:26]
board?
[1:31:33]
Jenny, hearing no discussion. Roll call.
Miss Miss Black,
[1:31:40]
um I know this has been a rough topic
and um I've been all over the map on it,
[1:31:48]
against it, for it, for it, in the
middle. When solar was first
[1:31:55]
introduced, as with that's made. It was
not done
[1:32:01]
correctly, but improvements have been
made. And one of my questions that I
[1:32:07]
asked was, can the soil be returned to
uh
[1:32:13]
farming? And I was told no, but and this
is per um Virginia Tech, it can be
[1:32:22]
amended again deep tillage and
amendments to return it to production.
[1:32:29]
And my interest with um the camp with
Southern Bridges is that it was a
[1:32:36]
collaboration between Southern Bridges
and um Long
[1:32:41]
Road and they listened to the community
and what they wanted and they
[1:32:52]
responded and I really commend them for
that because in the future we are solar
[1:32:58]
is not going
and it will be taken out of our hands.
[1:33:03]
How much? I don't know.
But we can use the partnership between
[1:33:11]
the community and Longwood as a model
for doing it correctly.
[1:33:18]
But the key thing that has
um that I look at is that property
[1:33:26]
owners have the right to use their
property as long as it's legal and it's
[1:33:35]
within the bounds of
ordinances. So consider you have
[1:33:41]
property owners that have
leased their land for towers.
[1:33:48]
and receive
compensation. Consider you have
[1:33:54]
agricultural land owners who have used
their
[1:33:59]
property for for their
use. And last week I was just in writing
[1:34:06]
lately, you look at the amount of timber
that has been
[1:34:10]
cut. The land is
bare. Uh it affects the wildlife.
[1:34:18]
habitat. It's not It's unsightly. It's,
you know, it'll take if if it's going to
[1:34:23]
they're going to regrow the timber, it's
going to take a while. But still, that
[1:34:28]
was that land owner's right to use his
property. And I look at it the same way.
[1:34:37]
The land owners where the uh for the
proposed site of seven bridges have the
[1:34:46]
right to use their
land. and they have gone out of their
[1:34:53]
way to ensure
that it will not be visible to
[1:35:01]
those who uh travel up and down um
Scott's crossroad.
[1:35:07]
And recently I went and looked at
another solar
[1:35:11]
site where they are going to hope to
develop and looked at the full grown
[1:35:20]
trees road back into that development
proposed development and there's no way
[1:35:25]
anyone is going to see it.
Whether we want to or not, change is
[1:35:33]
coming and you can't stop it. Like I
said, it's going to be taken out of our
[1:35:39]
hands. To what extent, I don't
know.
[1:35:44]
But everyone has the right to use their
property if it is not impacting others
[1:35:55]
negatively.
Anyone else? One thing I I think also we
[1:36:03]
need to be mindful of is I
believe per emergency services and the
[1:36:08]
fire chief's association that if we have
a wildfire break out into a solar
[1:36:15]
facility, the county's policy is to
surround it and watch it burn. We don't
[1:36:20]
have a it is it's a solar facility and
it's electrical compound that produces
[1:36:26]
electricity and it's not safe for our
volunteers to enter such. With that
[1:36:32]
being said, when you have those panels
and the chemicals that make up those
[1:36:36]
panels and you introduce fire in
something like that, we don't know what
[1:36:40]
the longterm effects may be.
They may be fine in the county, but when
[1:36:46]
you introduce something like fire, we
don't know. That's the general consensus
[1:36:50]
that I think. And fire is a realistic,
as we've seen in California. I think
[1:36:56]
they've got a big wakeup call. It can
happen just when you think it can.
[1:37:05]
Okay. Anyone else?
[1:37:09]
I would remind again since we've had
discussion
[1:37:13]
that a yes
vote is to reject the sighting
[1:37:18]
agreement. Jenny, you want to do a roll
call? Mr. Brinkley? Yes. Mr. Grabbit?
[1:37:25]
Yes. Mr. Spence? Yes. Mr. Harrow? Yes.
Mr. Wilkinson? Yes. Miss Blackwell? No.
[1:37:35]
Slundy? Yes.
Mr. Tanner. No.
[1:37:41]
Mr. Jennings. Yes.
[1:37:45]
Okay.
[1:37:49]
Mr. Hendrick, you're up next.
The next item is the special exception
[1:37:54]
permit by Southern Bridges Solar LLC for
a special exception permit to construct
[1:37:59]
an 80 megawatt utility scale solar
facility up to 435 acres out of 1,249
[1:38:06]
acres to be located on county tax map
number
[1:38:10]
01300-
A-001 partial rocket number
[1:38:15]
7779. This property is owned as
agriculture is located on the west side
[1:38:18]
of route 633 Scotch Cross Road and is
intersection with 681 Honey Tree Road in
[1:38:24]
Lexon District 7berg
County.
[1:38:28]
Okay, Cliff, are you going to speak on
behalf of this application?
[1:38:57]
Good morning, chairman, supervisors.
Thank you again for your time
[1:39:00]
considering this application. Really
appreciate
[1:39:04]
it. My name is Darren Lawrence. I work
for Long Road Energy. I'm the vice
[1:39:07]
president of
environmental. Cliff is in charge of the
[1:39:11]
whole project development. I'm in charge
of implementation. So when Cliff says,
[1:39:16]
"Here's a plan and here's what we're
going to do." I get to make sure that we
[1:39:21]
execute everything that we say we're
going to do. And this really comes from
[1:39:25]
one of our
founders since we started this company.
[1:39:30]
His comment was this is our motto. We
make and honor our commitments. And my
[1:39:35]
presentation today is really two things.
One, I just want to talk about our
[1:39:38]
compliance with the special exception
permit. And two, I want to provide some
[1:39:42]
examples and other places we built to
give you more confidence that we are not
[1:39:48]
like the other developers. We have a
great reputation in this industry. When
[1:39:53]
Cliff and I first came and met in the
county back in 2017 with Mr. and Mrs.
[1:39:58]
Mullen and with leaders here, Long Road
did not have any projects. We didn't
[1:40:03]
even have any projects in construction.
Today, we are the 15th largest renewable
[1:40:09]
energy company in the United States. And
I attribute that to our tenacious and
[1:40:16]
resilient commitment to following
through with doing what we say we're
[1:40:21]
going to do. That's just who we are.
It's how we're branded. It's how we
[1:40:24]
think. It's in our DNA. So, when we say
we're going to do something and we make
[1:40:28]
these promises, these are promises that
we keep.
[1:40:35]
Maybe maybe the place to focus here
about the special exception permit
[1:40:40]
application is we started off with a
project years ago and we listened to the
[1:40:45]
community and we modified it and we've
gotten to the point where the planning
[1:40:49]
commission has recommended approval of
this special exception permit. And not
[1:40:55]
only that, the planning commission has
deemed that we are in substantial accord
[1:41:02]
with the comprehensive plan of
Meckllinmberg County. And I want to
[1:41:05]
spend just a moment on what that means.
We have read the comprehensive plan. We
[1:41:10]
have read the ordinances. We have talked
to the people to understand what did you
[1:41:15]
really mean when you said this is what
you have to do to be spaced out farther
[1:41:19]
or we need a buffer or we want to make
sure that you're maintaining the rural
[1:41:24]
nature of this county. We have digested
that and thought about it and turned
[1:41:28]
that into our application to make sure
that we are adhering to everything
[1:41:33]
that's so important to you who live here
in this county. And
[1:41:38]
so if we are a land of laws and we are
in compliance with the laws, the
[1:41:44]
ordinance, the rules, the regulations of
this county, then isn't it a right of a
[1:41:49]
person who owns a piece of land in
compliance with those laws to be able to
[1:41:53]
go ahead with a plan that they have
spent time and millions of dollars
[1:41:57]
developing? Or would you take away that
right for what reason if there isn't one
[1:42:02]
that ties back to being in compliance
with the law? And I think that's a
[1:42:06]
fundamental threshold question about
your voting today is whether you believe
[1:42:10]
that the law guides what we're allowed
to do on our private lands or
[1:42:14]
not. That is the
[1:42:18]
question. The second thing I want to
bring up is at the planning commission
[1:42:23]
hearing there was discussion about
whether solar was a proven technology or
[1:42:28]
not. And I've done a lot of thinking
since then. That was back in March. uh
[1:42:33]
just to try to think about well how do I
explain that this isn't just something
[1:42:37]
that you know kind of works sometimes or
doesn't work sometimes
[1:42:41]
um Meckllinburgg County has been
exceedingly unlucky with the projects
[1:42:47]
that have been built here so far um you
have ended up with Edouls not Fords and
[1:42:54]
Dodges and Chevys and I know you know
better than I do all the problems that
[1:42:59]
have happened in those other projects.
Um, broadly in the United States, the
[1:43:06]
largest new energy generation is solar
energy. 50,000 megawws. Seven Bridges is
[1:43:13]
80 megawatts. Imagine how much solar
that is. That is the predominant
[1:43:17]
selection for energy that's put on the
grid because the sun shines and the
[1:43:21]
panels collect electrons and they put it
out to the grid and it is the cheapest
[1:43:25]
form of electricity you can get. Now, I
know there's this talk of subsidization.
[1:43:30]
as far as we're concerned, get rid of
it. But if you want to get rid of it,
[1:43:33]
get rid of it for oil and gas and coal,
too, because they have been getting it
[1:43:37]
since
1921, back when they first got their
[1:43:40]
research and development subsidization
and tax credits. And they still get that
[1:43:44]
today, as well as many more. So, if you
want to do a fair cost accounting, get
[1:43:50]
rid of all subsidization. We are in
support of that as a solar industry. We
[1:43:54]
think that that would be the right move
to do and we'd like to see that happen.
[1:43:58]
But given the conditions we have today
and the reality that you buy electricity
[1:44:02]
in a competitive market, we have fixed
power purchase agreements. If gas goes
[1:44:06]
up, your price goes up. Solar doesn't go
up. We have a fixed price for the 30 or
[1:44:12]
40 years life of the project. It is
fixed and is not going to
[1:44:15]
change. Second point I'd like to make is
we're enjoying the air conditioning in
[1:44:20]
this room today. 36% of that energy is
coming from another state. Do you want
[1:44:26]
to send hundreds of millions of dollars
to other states to build energy over
[1:44:31]
there to then keep the air conditioning
on here? Or would you rather invest that
[1:44:35]
money in this county to make it stronger
and have the energy that is fueling this
[1:44:40]
air conditioning right here coming from
Virginia and even from here
[1:44:44]
Meckllinburgg County. To me, it seems
like local sourcing is just so much
[1:44:49]
better than trying to get it from
someone else.
[1:44:53]
So Cliff did a really nice job talking
about and working with all the changes
[1:44:57]
that we've had in this project. When we
started it was 942 acres. We're half the
[1:45:02]
size of that right now. We have put in
screening and buffers. We've got a new
[1:45:06]
access road. We'll have sheep grazing.
We're maintaining a a special amount of
[1:45:11]
logging and agriculture forestry around
the whole project. Hunting and fishing.
[1:45:16]
This project's going to be really
diverse and it's going to have a lot of
[1:45:19]
really unique benefits to it. while
we're also building a solar plant. And
[1:45:24]
as you mentioned, the Maharin River, 250
acres put into an in perpetuity
[1:45:29]
conservation easement to protect it
forever. And that's because we've
[1:45:33]
listened to the community. We understand
your concerns. The Maharin River is
[1:45:38]
designated scenic 10 miles down river.
We're adjacent to the South Maharin
[1:45:42]
River. It's not designated as scenic,
but we still think it is a really
[1:45:47]
valuable protected resource that we want
to be really careful about. That's why
[1:45:51]
we have offered this 250 acre
conservation
[1:45:55]
easement. Cliff mentioned, you will not
see the project from the Marin River. It
[1:46:00]
is really well screened from the terrain
and because we're set way way back and
[1:46:04]
on the other side of a transmission line
at the top of the
[1:46:08]
hill. So when I mentioned
implementation,
[1:46:11]
um the key part here is we have a plan
to screen it. We developed a forestry
[1:46:16]
plan to make sure that the cutting that
might happen in the buffer regenerates
[1:46:21]
young trees that have lower branches
that maintain the screening. So that for
[1:46:24]
the life of the project, you're not
going to be able to see it from any of
[1:46:27]
those public
viewpoints. We will be decommissioning
[1:46:31]
the project at the end of life. And
we'll be decommissioning essentially
[1:46:35]
taking all the metal out of the project
and you're going to have a meadow that
[1:46:40]
will have had 30 years to develop an
organic horizon and healthy roots and
[1:46:44]
healthy soil. And it can be farmed, it
can grow trees, it can be whatever you
[1:46:48]
want it to
be. This just a summary of the many
[1:46:53]
different ways we thought about how do
we add value to this project.
[1:46:57]
conservation pollinators got sheep
grazing timber and we know that in those
[1:47:03]
other projects other people built those
they didn't use our panels that are true
[1:47:10]
time and test as you heard from first
solar today they don't use our trackers
[1:47:14]
we use the good tried and trueue tested
trackers in our systems we know that
[1:47:19]
when we have a project that's going to
work and in our entire portfolio of more
[1:47:22]
than 5,000 megawws they all work we
don't have any of the project problems
[1:47:26]
that you've seen in this county. Very
unfortunately over at Foxhound, we had
[1:47:32]
the D on site many, many times during
these many storms that we had that
[1:47:38]
caused a lot of a lot of water to come
down on a site. Quote, from one of their
[1:47:42]
reports, one of the best pollution
prevention plans I've seen in
[1:47:45]
construction general permit," unquote.
We are also committed to hiring a
[1:47:49]
third-party compliance manager who would
report to the county and be able to
[1:47:53]
continue to tell you here's how it's
going and if you have problems, we will
[1:47:57]
address
them. The last point I'll make is we we
[1:48:02]
are innovators at Long Road. We solve
problems. We solve hard problems. We are
[1:48:06]
a tenacious, resilient company that is
here to make and honor promises that
[1:48:11]
we're making to you. And if you don't
believe just me, you can go around to
[1:48:15]
our sites around the country. In Maine,
we have the largest solar site ever
[1:48:19]
built in the state. And the D uses our
site to do trainings not only for their
[1:48:24]
staff, but for other
developers. At Foxtown Solar, we're the
[1:48:29]
first only Pollinator Smart Certified by
Virginia project, large scale solar
[1:48:33]
project in the state of Virginia. And
lastly, one of my favorites, the work
[1:48:38]
we've been doing with wildlife and the
west has gotten the attention of
[1:48:42]
National Geographic. March of 2025, we
are mentioned in National Geographic for
[1:48:47]
the good work that we're doing with
solar and wildlife at our sites. So, I
[1:48:51]
ask you very respectfully to approve the
special exception permit application
[1:48:56]
that we have before you. And again,
thank you very much for your time.
[1:49:02]
Okay. Thank you. Uh we will
now open the public hearing for the
[1:49:08]
special exception permit.
I have 20 people signed up on this
[1:49:15]
sheet. Okay. There may well be other
people in the room who did not sign it
[1:49:19]
up.
The first speaker on this is Deborah
[1:49:22]
Dantis.
[1:49:31]
Okay. My comments are going to be about
the same.
[1:49:34]
Um, my name is Deborah DeSantis. I
reside at 885 Scots Crossroads. Um, I
[1:49:41]
just want to talk about I mean I I do
realize that they come into my home and
[1:49:45]
how McCay listen to my concerns and
they've made a lot of changes to what
[1:49:51]
their original plan was and we
appreciate that. Um, I do want to state
[1:49:56]
how much that I love a rural way of life
and that is why I remain in Southside
[1:50:03]
Virginia. Um there is too much
uncertainty about the solar in regards
[1:50:08]
to our waterways, wellwater, soil, and
wildlife, not to mention who or how
[1:50:15]
these monstrosities will be maintained
and repaired and disposed of in the
[1:50:20]
future. Um, I just want to ask you all,
like I said before, um, everybody that
[1:50:28]
votes to allow these solar farms to come
in, every single person that votes for
[1:50:33]
that,
yes, is rewarded financially in some way
[1:50:38]
or another. Um, I know that Chase City,
the town needs needs a lot need a lot of
[1:50:46]
money. um they're doing the best they
can, but at what cost do you sell your
[1:50:53]
soul to these solar companies. Um we
don't know what's going to happen 10
[1:50:58]
years from now after it's built. We
don't know what's going to happen 20
[1:51:01]
years from now. Um I was offered a good
neighbor agreement. I flat out turned it
[1:51:07]
down because I was not going to take any
money for me to have to sit there and
[1:51:13]
put up with the construction, the dust,
the noise, and whatever would happen in
[1:51:18]
10 to 20 or 30 years because you can't
come back in 10 years or 20 years after
[1:51:24]
signing this agreement and say, "But but
but you poisoned my wellwater, but but
[1:51:29]
but you know, you've you've completely
obliterated the wildlife in the area or
[1:51:34]
or whatever the the cause may be. You
can't once you sign it, that's it.
[1:51:39]
You've signed your soul away. You cannot
go back and say, "Well, you didn't tell
[1:51:46]
me, you know, or you didn't know. It
doesn't matter. It's it it's finished.
[1:51:50]
You you you have no recourse at that
point." So, like I said, I know Chase
[1:51:55]
City needs I know Meckllinburgg County
needs
[1:51:58]
funding. We've got to figure it out in
other ways. The majority of us here
[1:52:04]
today We live here in Southside Virginia
because we do not want to live in
[1:52:11]
Northern Virginia in the Tidewater area.
Yet those
[1:52:16]
areas need the electrical grid coming
from us. We need to look out for
[1:52:22]
ourselves.
Yes, land owners should be able to do
[1:52:27]
within reason what they want with their
land and their
[1:52:33]
property, but you all sitting here can
make a decision to say no, this is not
[1:52:40]
in the best interest of the
county. And I would hope that you would
[1:52:47]
oppose and not let any more solar come
into the county. I think we've had
[1:52:51]
enough. We've seen enough. Um, yeah,
they're learning from their mistakes,
[1:52:56]
but there's always going to be more
mistakes. The other companies, they
[1:53:00]
promised this and they promised that,
and they didn't fulfill those promises,
[1:53:05]
and now the neighbors there are having
to deal with these issues. So, I thank
[1:53:11]
you all for your consideration. Thank
you. The next signed up speaker is
[1:53:15]
Pauline Keaton, who I believe has
departed. Yeah.
[1:53:21]
and as did Beverly Wood. So, the next
one we have is Lori Huber.
[1:53:32]
Thank you for putting up with me a
second
[1:53:34]
time. I am disappointed that so many of
you felt like you had to vote against
[1:53:40]
this last vote. Um, a couple things
strike me. One is emergency services,
[1:53:47]
wildfires, what can come off the panels?
We actually do know what the result
[1:53:52]
would be. When EPA defines what a
hazardous waste is, one of the tests
[1:53:57]
they do is called a toxicity extraction
procedure, TCLP. They're looking at the
[1:54:02]
leeate that comes from something that
contains is either entirely hazardous
[1:54:08]
waste or contains something that would
be hazardous waste if it became a waste.
[1:54:12]
These panels are so large, they have so
much glass, they have so much other
[1:54:17]
inner material. the very very very tiny
bit of toxic materials that are in these
[1:54:23]
panels isn't anywhere near enough to
cause harm. You say they're very large.
[1:54:28]
There's lots of panels. You'd have to
take all of them, not break them in half
[1:54:33]
and burn them, which in fact melts metal
and glass and would seal it even more.
[1:54:39]
You'd have to grind it into a powder and
drink it for decades before there would
[1:54:43]
be enough of those toxic materials to
harm you. that's just not going to
[1:54:48]
happen. So, I'm I'm disappointed hearing
people bring that up again and again.
[1:54:54]
Also, storm water
erosion control. I'm very concerned
[1:55:00]
about that. I've called Mr. Hendrick and
complained about how brown the water
[1:55:04]
looked driving in over 58 into
Clarksville a year or two
[1:55:09]
back. I'm not supportive of anything
that would contribute to this. What
[1:55:14]
creates erosion?
farming, timber
[1:55:19]
removal, data center
construction, solar farm construction.
[1:55:25]
All of those things potentially
contribute. But we say yes to farmers.
[1:55:30]
We say yes to timber harvesting. We say
yes to data centers. Why is it all of a
[1:55:36]
sudden a problem with a solar farm? A
solar farm that's under construction for
[1:55:40]
a year or a year and a half and then
it's there to be what? grazed by lambs,
[1:55:45]
flowers, vegetables grown. That's not
cutting down trees. That's not tilling
[1:55:50]
land. That's not building a data
center. Everybody's under a lot of
[1:55:55]
pressure here to vote against this. I
get it. Some of the stories here have
[1:56:00]
been very heartfelt and are valid and
should be listened to, but looking at
[1:56:05]
what's best for everyone and what's wise
in terms of what's coming. You talk
[1:56:10]
about
wildfires, there's a lot coming in terms
[1:56:15]
of demand for electricity, scarcity of
electric sources. People talk about
[1:56:20]
nuclear. My god, what kind of hazard is
a potential emergency condition with a
[1:56:27]
nuclear power
facility? Please think this through,
[1:56:32]
please. Thank you.
The next uh signed name on here is Susan
[1:56:38]
Mullen.
[1:56:54]
Well, thank you for listening once
again.
[1:57:00]
Um, the thing about solar is, you know,
people say, "I don't want to see it."
[1:57:05]
Every time I pass a solar field, I
smile. I think, "Yes, this is right.
[1:57:12]
This is the right thing for energy
today. We need it. We have got to have
[1:57:17]
solar. You can build this and you can.
It's on. You got it. You get it quickly.
[1:57:23]
It's cheaper than any other source of
power. It is clean. It is what we ought
[1:57:29]
to do.
And I say, I love solar. I'm
[1:57:33]
environmentalist. I was on the board of
the Southern Environmental Law Center
[1:57:37]
for 22 years and we've done an awful lot
of work and thank God I sleep much
[1:57:43]
better because I know that they are out
protecting air, water and soil. We need
[1:57:51]
solar. Solar is it's all almost the only
answer right now. So I encourage you all
[1:58:00]
really, you know, you've s you know a
lot of this that we've been hearing the
[1:58:05]
complaints. You know they're not
accurate. You know that there's a lot of
[1:58:08]
false information out there. Solar is
the way to go. We need it. And I y'all
[1:58:16]
already know how I feel about Chase
City. So I think Chase City needs it
[1:58:20]
too. And so I would certainly vote ask
all of you all to vote for this project
[1:58:27]
because J City needs
it, the community needs
[1:58:32]
it, the the climate needs
it. Thank
[1:58:39]
you. Next name is John Mullen.
[1:58:52]
I'll be very brief because uh doesn't
sound like it would do much good to
[1:58:56]
repeat my earlier remarks. Um I think
one thing that the supervisors um should
[1:59:03]
think about is the planning commission
has approved this project twice. Uh
[1:59:09]
including after the modified long range
plan was put in place. Uh I was told a
[1:59:17]
year or so ago by one of the
supervisors, why would we have a
[1:59:20]
planning commission if we don't pay any
attention to them? They've obviously
[1:59:24]
done a lot of research on this. I don't
know after time we really had to think
[1:59:30]
this through, but uh clearly if the
planning commission thinks it's okay uh
[1:59:36]
and has voted for it twice, I would hope
you keep that in mind. And I do think
[1:59:41]
that the personal property rights issues
are very import. I mean
[1:59:47]
um the fact that that is in compliance
with every thing that's uh it has to be
[1:59:54]
in compliance with and is approved by
the planning commission I hope would
[1:59:59]
hold some weight with this uh
commission. Thank you.
[2:00:03]
The next speaker is Karen Drosiaak.
[2:00:19]
Thank you very much. I'm Karen Drosiaak
with First Solar. I'd like to address
[2:00:23]
some of the concerns about the safety of
our technology. Um the beauty about
[2:00:28]
having a proven technology that has been
safely operating in the field for more
[2:00:32]
than two decades is that it has been
extensively studied and tested. Whether
[2:00:37]
it's breakage, whether it's fire,
natural disasters, you name it. So let's
[2:00:43]
start with the with the materials. It
has a scary name, but it is very
[2:00:48]
different from elemental cadmium. Much
like H2O, water is different from
[2:00:55]
hydrogen a gas. So this matters. This
means it is extremely chemically stable
[2:01:01]
and thermally is thermally stable. So,
in the event of a fire, worst case,
[2:01:08]
assuming all the CAD tell were to be
emitted from the from the panels, which
[2:01:13]
is highly unlikely, and I'll explain why
in a second, assuming that worst case is
[2:01:19]
a 100,000 times less than routine
cadmium emissions from coal and oil
[2:01:24]
power plants. So, why is this worst case
scenario unlikely? Because cadmium
[2:01:30]
teleride has an extremely high melting
point and boiling point 2,000 degrees
[2:01:35]
Celsius or two sorry Fahrenheit. Um
that's well above your typical grassfire
[2:01:42]
temperatures. What happens is the glass
melts around and encapsulates the
[2:01:47]
material
99.96% of it. This is why it is safe in
[2:01:54]
the event of a fire. It is safe in the
event of breakage because there are no
[2:01:58]
liquids or vapors that can leak out and
it has been proven for more than two
[2:02:04]
decades and there have been not a single
reported instance of concern of
[2:02:11]
environmental
contamination in the field over these
[2:02:15]
two decades it has been deployed across
more than 45 countries around the world.
[2:02:20]
60,000 megawws have been deployed. Thank
you. Thank you. The next speaker is Joel
[2:02:27]
Cathy.
[2:02:40]
Hello, I'm Joel Kathy again. I
appreciate y'all allowing me to speak.
[2:02:44]
Um, I just want to reiterate
um private property rights. Um, this is
[2:02:51]
a practice the state of Virginia is
mandated to Dominion Power that certain
[2:02:55]
amount of their electricity is going to
come from renewables. So, it's a state
[2:03:00]
instigated process. Um, it's a legal
process. It's been proved that it's not
[2:03:06]
harmful and land owners ought to be
allowed to make decisions on their own
[2:03:10]
property. I mean, that's what this
country was built on. Thank you,
[2:03:16]
Matt KS.
[2:03:21]
Supervisors. Uh Matt Karns, I head up
development for Long Road. Um I
[2:03:27]
understand that you're in a difficult
spot here hearing all kinds of um
[2:03:33]
theories and ideas about solar. Um I
think what we can say though is with the
[2:03:39]
recommendation from the planning
commission those are specific standards
[2:03:44]
that this project after 8
years multiple changes that were made to
[2:03:50]
accommodate specific concerns they
agreed with the recommendation to move
[2:03:55]
forward with approval. So it wasn't a it
wasn't a project that was just kind of
[2:04:00]
jammed into a permit application. This
project has been tailored to meet the
[2:04:04]
needs of and and with the input of
people who live here. Um I take the
[2:04:09]
supervisor's point about about fire
issues and I really appreciate that
[2:04:13]
question. We work in every major uh
market across the United States. We work
[2:04:18]
very closely with fire departments and
do uh coordinated response and
[2:04:22]
education. So that is an area that we
would be very quick to coordinate on. Um
[2:04:29]
I think also just you don't have to make
the decision based on uh guessing or
[2:04:35]
supposition or rumor or internet theory.
There are standards that apply. There
[2:04:41]
are standards that the public the
planning commission applied. Specific
[2:04:45]
standards, state, local and federal
rules all apply here. We will not be
[2:04:52]
impacting wetlands above a particular
point. We are not allowed to. we have
[2:04:56]
these uh areas are carefully engineered
with respect to flood water and with
[2:05:02]
storm water. They are better engineered
than many many other land uses that we
[2:05:07]
see. Um so I think what I would ask is
that you make the decision based on the
[2:05:14]
recommendation from the planning
commission. You can defer to their
[2:05:17]
expertise. You can defer to the federal
government in certain cases with respect
[2:05:22]
to what navigable waters of the United
States. These standards are in place for
[2:05:25]
a reason. And Virginia now has a lot of
experience with solar and a lot of that
[2:05:31]
has been folded back into the Department
of Environmental Quality process, the
[2:05:35]
the PBR process. And so all those
lessons learned are now baked in. So we
[2:05:41]
can be the capstone. We can be the
premier solar project and be proud of it
[2:05:48]
because we've been working on it for
eight years with you, with the
[2:05:51]
neighbors, with a variety of folks who
have weighed in, have come to us and
[2:05:56]
said, "Let's make this the best solar
project in the Commonwealth." We can do
[2:06:01]
that. And I would ask you to approve the
SCP. we can move forward separately on a
[2:06:07]
separate discussion about the sighting
act or the sighting agreement. Um but I
[2:06:12]
truly appreciate the opportunity to
invest in this county. We have been
[2:06:16]
trying to do it for eight years. We
would love to um meet you at the ribbon
[2:06:20]
cutting. So thank you. Thank you Tom.
[2:06:32]
Thank you. I'll just take a quick minute
since I already spoke for three minutes
[2:06:36]
before. Um the Evergreen team, again,
I'm with the Evergreen team. We believe
[2:06:40]
in conservation. Our motto is keeping
the country country. Um we believe that
[2:06:46]
really the the only way that you can
really lose the country and the rural
[2:06:52]
the rural um um culture of your county
is through subdivisions. So that's why
[2:06:58]
we are looking at at trying to work any
way we can to save land in perpetuity.
[2:07:04]
Um so we always say that that a any land
eventually whether you're talking about
[2:07:10]
you know 10 years or 100 years or a
thousand years will always go towards
[2:07:15]
subdivision because of the four Ds and
one of them is divorce uh debt death and
[2:07:24]
excuse me dumbass decisions. Um so we
are are always working hard to work in
[2:07:29]
to save land in perpetuity which this
pro project would do. Um also I heard a
[2:07:35]
number of um you know great great points
on both sides. I would say that several
[2:07:40]
people that are against it are talking
about um people that are associated with
[2:07:45]
a project are is because of money. And
we would I would say that the Evergreen
[2:07:50]
Team, which is an environmental
nonprofit, we believe in a triple bot
[2:07:54]
bottom line, which is people, planet,
and economy. You got to have all three
[2:08:00]
of those to save the environment. I've
been I'm an environmental engineer. I've
[2:08:05]
dealt with contamination my whole my
whole life. I've traveled to third world
[2:08:09]
nations and when you don't have a strong
economy, the environment goes downhill.
[2:08:14]
We work um extensively with land owners
up and down Virginia and Pennsylvania
[2:08:20]
and in areas where that is hurting
economy. The environment looks terrible.
[2:08:27]
Trash, uh water pollution, surface water
contamination. Um economy is a good
[2:08:34]
thing. It helps people and it helps the
environment.
[2:08:38]
Thank
you. Next speaker is Matt
[2:08:50]
English. I'm going to make it brief.
Rain's
[2:08:53]
coming. Daylight's getting short and I
don't know where y'all going to
[2:08:57]
vote. But, you know,
think of all these businesses that y'all
[2:09:03]
have approved here in the last few
years. How many is going to support a
[2:09:09]
farmer? How many is going to support
wounded
[2:09:13]
warriors? Did the data center down here?
Did they say we're going to take a
[2:09:16]
couple hundred acres and we're going to
let wounded warriors come in here and
[2:09:19]
hunt and
fish? Did some of these other businesses
[2:09:22]
say, "Hey, we're going to get as many
farmers in the Southside area to to come
[2:09:26]
together and farm on us. We're not going
to use mowers and bush hogs and
[2:09:32]
chemicals.
We're going to let local farmers come
[2:09:36]
and use our
land and if they need anything, we'll
[2:09:40]
take care of them because we support
them. Just keep that in mind. Lastly,
[2:09:46]
I'd like to end with this. Several
people on both sides aisle, forward or
[2:09:50]
against it, come to me and they said,
"Matt," they said, "How come you ain't
[2:09:52]
farming up here?" He said, "You know,
it's one right up your road. It's one
[2:09:55]
back over here in this community. You
know, that's halfway to you." And well,
[2:09:59]
you know, happy Mother's Day, ladies.
Anyway, my mama always said, "If it's
[2:10:03]
not something nice to say about
somebody, don't say nothing about them
[2:10:06]
at all."
And that's all I'm going to say about
[2:10:10]
those other companies. They're just like
plumbers, policemen,
[2:10:16]
politicians, you name it. And where it's
good ones and it's bad ones. Why do you
[2:10:21]
think I jumped over those sites to try
to come on this
[2:10:26]
site? These are the most proactive
people I've ever dealt with.
[2:10:31]
And I've gone back to the companies I
work with and I've told them some of the
[2:10:34]
things that anyway this company's trying
to do and I'm like, "Hey, you know, we
[2:10:38]
need to wake up." So that's all I'm
going to say. Thank y'all and thank you
[2:10:42]
for the time,
[2:10:46]
Brenda
[2:10:51]
Walker. Okay. Charles
[2:10:57]
Jackson, Glenn Bernie.
[2:11:12]
Good morning. Good morning. Bernie, 449
Fairy Hill Trail,
[2:11:18]
Clark. I'm a member of the Clarksville
Riverton Club.
[2:11:22]
One of our projects we have is uh rent
and utility bill
[2:11:28]
assistance which we spend about $30,000
a year on that
[2:11:32]
program. It benefits the needy people in
the Clarksville area only right now.
[2:11:39]
Long Road Energy has pledged to donate
$150,000 to our club to be used for
[2:11:48]
electricity bill
systems. And we would take that money
[2:11:54]
and use it over a 10-year period to
supplement what we already do. and it
[2:12:00]
would help us be able to expand
our electric bill assistance program
[2:12:05]
from Clarks area only to residents of
the entire
[2:12:09]
county. So just a benefit from Long Road
for
[2:12:14]
our county and some of the most needy
people. So I ask in conclusion that you
[2:12:20]
take that into account in the final
vote.
[2:12:26]
Monty High
[2:12:31]
Tower. Ladies and gentlemen, the B. Oh,
Monty High Tile, 247 Autumn Lane, Chase
[2:12:39]
City. And
[2:12:43]
um for some of y'all don't uh know me,
my my family has been in Mechanburg
[2:12:48]
County since at least 1750. It's for
Mechmber County, Looney County. So, uh,
[2:12:55]
I'm not somebody just came here.
Uh, 90% of the farmers that were here 40
[2:13:04]
years ago are not here. Now, farming is
just as much an industry as any other
[2:13:10]
big uh, factory.
[2:13:15]
uh
monocropping thousands and thousands of
[2:13:19]
acres of soybeans which have no value to
the pollinators.
[2:13:27]
All the soybeans are
[2:13:32]
uh wind
pollinated. The
[2:13:37]
uh pollinator habitat that the solar
farms could be putting up be used by
[2:13:45]
bees,
bugs,
[2:13:48]
insects. Uh the pine trees they cutting
down had very little pollinator value.
[2:13:55]
Pollinators are are the foundation of
our whole ecosystem. In fact, the
[2:14:00]
pollinators
uh the birds eat the bugs to feed the
[2:14:06]
baby birds. Uh it just starts and builds
up.
[2:14:12]
So the saying that the cell phones are
bad for nature is not. I'm a certified
[2:14:20]
Virginia master naturalist. I have never
heard any
[2:14:25]
complaints through the master naturalist
against solar farms and Virginia master
[2:14:32]
naturalist or citizen
[2:14:35]
scientist. People say solar doesn't
work. Well, if it doesn't work, ask
[2:14:40]
eight people living on the International
Space Station how they live. All that
[2:14:45]
power comes from
solar.
[2:14:48]
Um, and for everybody complaining about
the solar farms, how would you like if
[2:14:54]
if your neighbor comes in and tells you,
"I don't like the color of your house."
[2:14:58]
You got to paint your house. I don't
like the flowers you you planted. You
[2:15:01]
got to cut your flowers down. Uh, I
don't like that tree you
[2:15:07]
planted. Remember,
uh, everything goes in a circle. So if
[2:15:13]
every if one person can't do something
then why can somebody else not have the
[2:15:19]
same
complaint and thank
[2:15:23]
you next speaker is Woody
[2:15:31]
Moore greetings to the board chairman
Woody Moore 5189 Country Club Drive City
[2:15:39]
uh you've already heard me say what I
said earlier on it Um much of what I
[2:15:45]
have seen and done the bigger issue is
one more time and it was just stated
[2:15:50]
again. Yes, solar
works. How well it works is a different
[2:15:55]
ball game and uh somebody's home and
individual home or things like that that
[2:16:00]
they can put it up and usually get by
with it. Although I've heard a lot of
[2:16:03]
mess about that that it's not working or
people are having problems with the
[2:16:05]
companies put it in. But it's my
understanding I this is just what I've
[2:16:10]
been told by the what's been handed down
from the data centers and some others
[2:16:14]
around here that what's already here
wouldn't fund wouldn't fuel power for a
[2:16:20]
third of the the data centers that's
already here much less what's coming
[2:16:24]
which that's a whole another issue and
so what it sounds like to me is
[2:16:30]
um I understand they've done a great job
of wanting to come in and and set it up
[2:16:34]
environmentally better and all this
stuff that nobody else has been able to
[2:16:37]
do which is weird. Uh over and above
that if it what it sounds like in order
[2:16:43]
to have the power that's going to be
necessary and the power that is claimed
[2:16:46]
that they produce everybody's land
around here will be covered in so solar
[2:16:50]
panels. It's not going to happen just a
little bit like what we've seen. This is
[2:16:53]
going to expand and expand and expand in
order to meet the need of power that is
[2:16:58]
out there. It is not efficient. I'm
sorry. It's just not. Um and and again I
[2:17:05]
I've been with the guys up in Buckingham
looked at the p what the power is
[2:17:08]
producing out of the ones that's up up
off of Cumberland line of Cumberland
[2:17:12]
where you can see on the grid what's
coming out of these others that are in
[2:17:14]
Chase City that are working the
percentage is not there. It's not even
[2:17:19]
50% fe people and most of the time it's
even under
[2:17:23]
20. It just does not commute compute to
me. I I don't I don't understand it. Uh,
[2:17:30]
I was all for it years ago. Until I see
what it actually produces, it's a
[2:17:34]
different ball game. At any rate, again,
I'm against it and and um just take that
[2:17:39]
into consideration. Thank you.
The next sign up is Brandon Estes.
[2:17:49]
Okay. Uh Melanie
[2:17:54]
Woods. Paul
Brer. Oh, Jean Gohagen.
[2:18:06]
Genie gohagen. Hello again. Um, I'm not
going to get into any big discussion,
[2:18:12]
but I do want to mention a statistic I
saw the other day. Five lakes in
[2:18:18]
Virginia, including Bugs Island, Kur
Lake. Kur Lake is the most polluted from
[2:18:24]
agriculture. Thank you.
[2:18:28]
That's everyone who's signed up. I don't
know if there's anybody else. Okay. Uh
[2:18:32]
any anyone else wishing to speak uh
during this public public hearing for
[2:18:37]
this special exception
permit?
[2:18:53]
Okay. Lisa Davis Bishop again. 1645
Scotch Crossroads. U I remain against
[2:19:00]
the project. Um I one more point that I
I wanted perhaps I didn't come across
[2:19:07]
well with before. I'd like to point out
that solar panels
[2:19:12]
um shed water like a roof. Think about
it. All that water is going to go off of
[2:19:18]
that. It's going to be
channeled unnaturally into a place it
[2:19:24]
was not designed to go into and that
will cause erosion that will leech down
[2:19:29]
into the
soil and it's going to cause issues.
[2:19:35]
Um, please put yourself in my shoes
again. Please save our home from
[2:19:41]
this. Thank you for your consideration.
Thank you. Anyone else wishing to
[2:19:49]
speak before we cliff?
[2:19:59]
Thank you, Chairman Jennings, members of
the board. Um, I just wanted to come up
[2:20:05]
and and say a few words. I mean, I know
become a familiar face over the years.
[2:20:12]
Uh and the
um the thing that we've been actively
[2:20:19]
doing is addressing tough questions
throughout the development of this
[2:20:23]
project. You know, we've addressed tough
questions on related to the South
[2:20:28]
Maharan River and we've addressed uh
tough questions related to
[2:20:34]
visibility and that's something that
we've proven to be good at and
[2:20:41]
uh would look to continue to do here in
Meckllinburgg County.
[2:20:47]
I've listened closely to all the
speakers today for and against and you
[2:20:52]
know we've submitted a substantial
amount of information to the county and
[2:20:58]
while there's been uh certainly concerns
mentioned
[2:21:03]
today between the various things we've
done to address concerns like related to
[2:21:08]
Scott's crossroads and the the questions
about good neighbor agreements. We've
[2:21:12]
submitted a signed sworn affidavit
clarifying that we're not pursuing good
[2:21:17]
neighbor agreements and haven't since
early 2024 related to uh the visibility
[2:21:24]
and um from public roads, you know,
Scott's crossroads from every different
[2:21:30]
direction short of as Mr. Mullen said,
if you're flying in an airplane or a
[2:21:34]
helicopter, then you'd be able to see
the project. You've seen simulations.
[2:21:38]
Some of you have been out to the site
and seen it firsthand. the drive that
[2:21:42]
you need to take back to the uh back
through the woods to get to the site.
[2:21:48]
Um, some of you spent time on farm
fields next to the site and we've worked
[2:21:53]
hard to uh address concerns that have
come up in this community and I believe
[2:21:58]
we've done a a uh sort of a great job of
that and I appreciate the time that
[2:22:03]
you've spent uh listening to me over the
months and I would ask that you take
[2:22:07]
into account in your vote today the uh
three pages of of signatures in support
[2:22:14]
that were submitted earlier. Um, I would
estimate that's probably 50s something
[2:22:19]
signatures in support. Those came from
Chase City, Scott's Crossroads, the
[2:22:24]
areas right around the project. And that
should be a meaningful consideration in
[2:22:30]
your vote. And so I appreciate your time
today and we'll ask that you take that
[2:22:35]
into consideration uh with your vote on
this on the Seven Bridges Solar Project.
[2:22:41]
Thank you.
Thank
[2:22:44]
you. Anyone
[2:22:49]
else hearing? No one. Seeing no one, I
will now close the public
[2:22:56]
hearing on the special exemption permit
for seven bridges solo.
[2:23:03]
After conducting a
duly advertised public hearing, I make
[2:23:09]
the motion, it is hereby resolved by the
Meckllinburgg County Board of
[2:23:14]
Supervisors that after considering the
staff reports prepared by the zoning
[2:23:19]
administrator and after considering
comments made in the public hearing and
[2:23:23]
after considering other matters deemed
revolent by the board, the special
[2:23:28]
exemption permit application submitted
on September the 10th, 202 24 by seven
[2:23:33]
Bridges Solar
LLC for the proposed 80 megawatt Seven
[2:23:40]
Bridges Solar facility is hereby denied
for the following reasons, each of which
[2:23:46]
was set forth in the staff report.
The site will be
[2:23:51]
utilizing
1,249 acres of prime farmland of
[2:23:56]
statewide importance to develop a 435
acre solar facility. A small portion of
[2:24:04]
the land scores class three or class 4
on the Virginia
[2:24:09]
conservation vision agricultural model.
The property has moderate, high, very
[2:24:15]
high, and outstanding forest
conservation values on the Virginia
[2:24:19]
conservation vision forestry
conservation values model. A number of
[2:24:25]
proposed panels on the submitted concept
plan are situated in areas designated as
[2:24:32]
very high or
outstanding. The property registers as
[2:24:36]
having high ecological cores on the
Virginia natural landscape
[2:24:41]
assessment. Portions of the property are
on the Virginia natural land network.
[2:24:48]
The applicant provided a construction
route that all loaded commercial
[2:24:53]
vehicles would use Highway 49
construction entrance and other
[2:24:58]
construction traffic would use Highway
633 Scots Crossroads to include unloaded
[2:25:06]
commercial vehicles. However, the
applicant has not provided a total
[2:25:10]
vehicle count that would be utilizing
the construction routes.
[2:25:16]
The project is being developed within
the proximity of South Mahar River which
[2:25:21]
flows into the Maharin River. These
waterways could be affected if any
[2:25:26]
contamination were to leave the site.
Additionally, the Maharan River has been
[2:25:31]
designated by the Virginia General
Assembly as the state scenic river
[2:25:36]
section
[2:25:39]
10.1-418.3 of the code of Virginia. As
the Virginia Department of Conservation
[2:25:45]
and Natural Resources noted, a good
portion of this land is tumble land and
[2:25:49]
has ample forest buff buffers which
provide a sense of isolation and
[2:25:56]
remoteness. And the Maharin River
corridor contains few signs of housing
[2:26:02]
or industrial development. Several
houses and cabins may be seen along the
[2:26:06]
route, but they are few and far between
and often veiled by foliage. The
[2:26:13]
sighting of these structures well away
from flood zones, high on the banks and
[2:26:18]
behind vegetative buffers does not
significantly compromise the sense of
[2:26:24]
isolation on the water or the aesthetic
quality of the court. An industrial
[2:26:30]
development would be contrary to these
statements. A yes vote for this motion
[2:26:37]
would be to deny the special exemption
permit. Any discussion from board
[2:26:43]
members?
[2:26:46]
Only thing I would say, Mr. Jenn, is
without the sign or approved sighting
[2:26:52]
agreement, it would be fiscally
irresponsible to approve this. I agree.
[2:27:00]
Jenny, you want to make a roll call
vote?
[2:27:03]
Mr. Yes. Mr. Grabbit. Yes. Mr. Spence.
Yes. Mr. Harbrook. Yes. Mr. Wilkinson.
[2:27:12]
Yes. M. Blackwell. No. Mrs. Lundy. Yes.
Mr. Tanner. Yes. Mr. Jennings. Yes.
[2:27:24]
Okay. I will welcome everybody to stay
for our rest of our meeting. Anybody
[2:27:29]
that wishes to leave, I'll give you a
couple of minutes to go.
[2:27:37]
Y'all want to take five minutes?
Russell, what? Russell. Hey, Russell.
[2:27:45]
I'm try to get in front of We're going
to take a fivem minute break. Wish you
[2:27:48]
would.
[2:35:23]
Where we going? Kevin, I think you up
next. We We didn't got to the easy part
[2:35:28]
here now.
Kevin said next time. Move him to the
[2:35:32]
front.
Mr. Excuse me.
[2:35:38]
Yeah, you had one. Robert has one one
more item to update you on.
[2:35:44]
I have one update for the board. Um, oh,
the planning commission held a comp plan
[2:35:50]
review for analyst row, which is RWE on
that 2232. Mhm. The planning commission
[2:35:56]
benied the application. So on May 5th,
they filed an appeal to the board of
[2:36:03]
supervisors. So you all would need to
make a decision on um when y'all want to
[2:36:08]
hold the hearing date, public hearing.
I think they have to do it within 60
[2:36:14]
days. Yeah. July.
Yeah. You can do it in in June or July.
[2:36:21]
Either one. Is it 60 days from their
appeal? Yes. In which case we can't do
[2:36:27]
July. Oh, the dates too. Yeah. We meet
on second Monday. 60 days would be July.
[2:36:35]
So, we can't do it June. Be June. Okay.
[2:36:44]
That's all I have. Okay. Thank you. All
right. Kevin,
[2:36:50]
July meeting.
[2:36:58]
Do I need to go first? I do. Yeah. The
first thing I wanted would be Kirk's
[2:37:04]
report from this morning.
All right. Kirk. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
[2:37:09]
The secondary roads committee met on
Monday, May 12th, 2025 at 8 a.m. in the
[2:37:14]
board of supervisors meeting room for
Virginia. Members present Kirk Rav,
[2:37:17]
chairman Sterling Wilson, David
Franklin, Andy Harwood. Others present,
[2:37:22]
Jim Jennings, Dennis Spence, Tom Tanner,
Alex Scott, county administrator. Judy
[2:37:26]
Smith, Sheffield, assistant county
administrator. Jenny Wimmore, clerk,
[2:37:31]
Kevin Smith, VOT, assistant resident,
engineer. Chairman Gravit called the
[2:37:35]
meeting to order. Mr. Gotchalk stated at
the last board of supervisors meeting
[2:37:39]
held on April 14th. The board voted
unanimously to advertise a public
[2:37:44]
hearing to consider adding Fineywood
Road, Hilltop Road, the Grand Road,
[2:37:49]
Wheatland Road, and Turkey Road to the
six-year plan. The public hearing was
[2:37:54]
open. Greenwood Road residents JA
Jordan, Matt Clark, Carolyn Evans, Hbert
[2:38:02]
Overton, and Margaret Smith.
addressed the committee asking for
[2:38:08]
Greenwood Road to be placed on the
six-year plan. They explained that the
[2:38:12]
road count was redone in 2023 and that
the board was not notified by VOTE that
[2:38:18]
their count went from 40 to 70 due to
new growth and development. The
[2:38:22]
residents complained about dust erosion
and boardwash. The public hearing was
[2:38:26]
closed. The committee discussed adding a
revenue sharing project for 2029 to the
[2:38:32]
advert to the advertised six-year plan.
Upon motion of Mr. Hargrove, the
[2:38:37]
committee voted unanimously to add
Greenwood Road to the V. FY 2026 through
[2:38:44]
30 2031 six-year plan that was
previously advertised as a revenue
[2:38:50]
sharing project. And Mr. Mr Chairman, I
believe we may need to stop here and
[2:38:56]
have a public hearing about amending.
Okay. So, I will declare a public
[2:39:03]
hearing open for the six-year plan.
Anyone wishing to speak?
[2:39:08]
Sure.
[2:39:13]
Everybody else left.
It's your chance.
[2:39:18]
I I I just scanning the crowd. I don't
see any dirt road complaints here, but
[2:39:24]
Okay. Hearing no one, we'll close the
public hearing. And
[2:39:28]
thank you, Mr. Chair. Upon a motion of
Mr. Harrove, the committee voted
[2:39:31]
unanimously to recommend approval of the
FY2026 through 2031 VOT six-year plan as
[2:39:39]
follows. Uh, Lono Road 2026, Lambert
Road 2026, Bowowers Road 2027, Wilson
[2:39:45]
Newton Road 2027, Twin Cedar Road 2028,
and Reicho Road
[2:39:51]
2028. Luck Circle 2029, Dixie Bridge
2029, Hilltop Road 2029, Green Green
[2:39:57]
Greenwood Road 2029, Lrand Road 2031,
Weedman Road 2031, Turkey Road
[2:40:05]
2031. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to put in
formal motion. Okay. Motion being made
[2:40:10]
to approve the six-year plan. Uh, any
more
[2:40:14]
discussion? All in favor of the motion
say I. Opposed? The motion carries.
[2:40:20]
There being no further business, the
meeting will adjourn. Okay. All right,
[2:40:24]
Kevin. All right. Should be brief. Our
monthly report, you got it in the
[2:40:30]
package. Couple couple things I want to
hit on. We are safety mowing
[2:40:34]
intersections right now. Primary mowing
is scheduled to start this this week.
[2:40:39]
Um, of course, weather permitting.
They're calling for some rain. Uh, and
[2:40:43]
then the only thing we've got coming up,
Route 733,
[2:40:47]
um, MT Hayes Road. Uh we're we're
planning on closing that this week for a
[2:40:52]
pipe replacement detour be in place.
Weather permitting. We'll get it done by
[2:40:56]
the end of the week.
That's all. Okay. Is that all you have?
[2:41:00]
Yes. All right.
Nobody has anything. And we'll move
[2:41:05]
right along to the property committee.
You done yet?
[2:41:10]
I'll do my best
to brief. I'm terrible. I wish it was.
[2:41:16]
Uh thank you, Mr. Chair.
A meeting in the property committee was
[2:41:20]
held at the end for the county of
Mechenburgg on April 14th, 2025 at 1
[2:41:24]
p.m. in the board of supervisor meeting
room with the good bank building. I call
[2:41:27]
the meeting to order. I do a roll call.
Myself is here. Claudia
[2:41:32]
Londe, David Branklin.
[2:41:38]
No, they were here at that meeting. This
was I see Andy Harro, Dennis Spence also
[2:41:44]
present. Jim Jennings, Tom Tanner,
Russell Scott, Brent Evans, Brian Do
[2:41:50]
Scott Warner, Judy Sheffield, and Jenny
Wood. He was calling the door. Close
[2:41:53]
session. C1, Jefferson Street property.
C2, Highway 92 property. C3, Lacrosse
[2:41:59]
Elementary School site selection. Upon a
motion of H Andy Hoger, the board voted
[2:42:04]
yes to convene close session pursuant to
section
[2:42:09]
2.2-3711-8.3 of a code of Virginia.
Discussion or consideration of the
[2:42:14]
acquisition of real property for a
public purpose or the disposition of
[2:42:17]
publicly held real property where
discussion in an open meeting would
[2:42:21]
adversely affect the bargaining position
or negotiating strategy of the public
[2:42:24]
body. Sterling Wilson, Claudia Lundy,
David Franklin, Andy Hallrove, Dennis
[2:42:29]
Spence voted I D. Open session. Upon a
motion of Andy Hallrove, the board voted
[2:42:35]
unanimously to reconvene in open
session. Sterling Wilkinson, Claudia
[2:42:39]
Lumi, David Franklin, Andy Harrove,
Dennis voted I D1 is the certification
[2:42:45]
resolution. Upon a motion of Sterling
Wilkinson, the board voted unanimously
[2:42:49]
to adopt the following certification
resolution. Sterling Wilson, Claudia
[2:42:54]
Lundy, David Brankley, Andy Hallrove,
Dennis Spence voted
[2:42:57]
I certification of close
session. Whereas the MacBook County
[2:43:03]
Board of Supervisors convene to close
session on this day pursuant to an
[2:43:06]
affirmative record vote in accordance
with the provision of the Virginia
[2:43:10]
Freedom of Information Act. And whereas
section
[2:43:14]
2.2-3711 of the code of Virginia
requires a certification by the
[2:43:17]
Mugenburg County Board of Supervisors.
As such closed session was conducted in
[2:43:21]
conformity with Virginia law. Now
therefore be resolved that the Mugenberg
[2:43:25]
County Board of Supervisors hereby
certifies that to the best of each
[2:43:29]
member's knowledge only public business
matters lawfully exempted from open
[2:43:32]
meeting requirements by Virginia law
were discussed in the close session to
[2:43:36]
which the certification resolution
applies and only such public business
[2:43:40]
matters as were identified in the motion
pertaining to close session were heard
[2:43:45]
discussed or considered by the Mber
County Board of
[2:43:48]
Supervisors. C1 the Jefferson Street
property Upon a motion of Andy Hogrove,
[2:43:54]
the board voted unanimously to authorize
advertisement of a public hearing to be
[2:43:58]
held on May 12th, 2025 on the proposed
conveyance to David Crowder,
[2:44:03]
approximately 150.5 square feet of real
property known as the county public
[2:44:08]
parking lot located on Jefferson Street,
Boon, Virginia 23917, and identified on
[2:44:14]
the Megmer County tax map as TMP 1110
A07-
[2:44:21]
A-065. Parcel record number
19916. Sterling Wilkerson, Claudia
[2:44:26]
Londy, David Brankley, Andy Hogrove,
Dennis Spence voted I. And I pause here
[2:44:31]
need to have a public hearing. Okay. Uh
we'll now open the public hearing for
[2:44:35]
the conveyance of real property to David
Crowder. Anyone wishing to
[2:44:40]
speak? Hearing no one, we will close the
public hearing. What are the wishes? I'd
[2:44:46]
like to make this in a form of a motion
to approve this uh time. Motion's been
[2:44:52]
made. Uh all in favor say I. Those
opposed. The motion carries. That's all
[2:44:58]
I have, Mr. Chairman.
Okay. Budget finance. Mr.
[2:45:03]
Harrow an important part of the meeting.
Nobody
[2:45:08]
meeting of the budget finance committee
was held in and for the county mur on
[2:45:13]
April the 30th at 6 pm in the board of
supervisor meeting room at the Google
[2:45:17]
school building school bank building um
the roll call was myself chairman David
[2:45:23]
Franklin Wilson Tom Tanner Brenda
Blackwell also Jim Jennings Krabbit
[2:45:29]
Marsha Seamus Brent Evans Justin Burch
Judy Sheffield and Jenn
[2:45:35]
Whitmore This is Michelle Gordon, clerk
of the circuit court is requesting that
[2:45:39]
that the her current budget to be
amended based on the TTF money received
[2:45:44]
from the state compensation board in the
amount of
[2:45:48]
$45,963. These funds would help pay to
digitalize additional records, redact
[2:45:54]
records and yearly maintenance and
current SR and SCV records. PAR will be
[2:45:59]
used on new equipment for PLA scanning.
Uh, please appropriate
[2:46:04]
$45,963 from the funded to line item
[2:46:10]
021700-3500 for records of
digitalizations. Upon the motion, well,
[2:46:15]
let me stop here and make this uh upon a
motion uh Mr. Tana board voted
[2:46:20]
unanimously to recommend approval of the
supplemental appropriation in the amount
[2:46:24]
of
$45,963 to the circuit court clerk
[2:46:29]
budget line item records
digitizations. Uh myself, David
[2:46:34]
Brankley, Sterling Wilson, Tom Town, and
Brendan Blackwood both I uh I would like
[2:46:39]
to put this in the form of a motion that
we uh render to the uh state
[2:46:44]
compensation board in the amount of
$45,963.
[2:46:49]
Okay, everyone's heard the motion. All
in favor say I. I. Oppos. Motion
[2:46:54]
carries. Mr. Gotcha. Brie review the bud
the budget amendments previously sent to
[2:47:00]
the committee. Upon motion of David
Brinkley, the board voted unanimous to
[2:47:05]
approve the proposed budget amendments
as presented. Myself, David Brinkley,
[2:47:10]
Sterling Wilson, Tom Tan from the
Blackwood voted I. Upon the motion of of
[2:47:16]
Sterling Wilkerson, the board voted
unanimous to receive approval of the
[2:47:19]
recommended FY 202526 budget uh to the
full board. Myself, David Brankley, St.
[2:47:27]
Sterling Wilkerson, Tom Tann, and
Brendon Blackwell voted I. Uh I would
[2:47:32]
also like to put this into a form of a
motion to receive these um these voted
[2:47:38]
for for budget amendment and also for
the approval of the amendment for 25 and
[2:47:43]
26 budget. Okay, everyone's heard the
motion. Any discussion?
[2:47:50]
They were just placed into the proposed
budget. So they included Yeah, the
[2:47:54]
amendments are good to go. Yeah. Yeah.
We need to adopt the tax ordinance, the
[2:47:58]
budget ordinance. Well, we need roll
call for those. We don't need it for
[2:48:01]
that. What he just made the motion, do
we? What I made for that is doing that.
[2:48:07]
I'm sorry to say that what you read
brings the those ordinances in front of
[2:48:13]
this body to vote upon. Right. That's
what So there is no motions. We can just
[2:48:18]
vote on that and then everything else
got to have a roll call. Am I correct on
[2:48:22]
that there? No, you don't have to vote
on anything that he just did. Voting on
[2:48:26]
the ordinances is does all of the above.
Does all the above. Okay. Well, good.
[2:48:31]
So, we need roll call on that, too.
Okay. All right, Jenny. All right. So,
[2:48:35]
we'll do the tax ordinance first. Yes,
ma'am. Okay. Mr. Brankley. Yes. Mr.
[2:48:41]
Grabbit? Yes. Mr. Spence? Yes. Mr.
Hardro? Yes.
[2:48:46]
Mr. Wilkinson? Yes. Miss Blackwell? Yes.
Miss Lundy? Yes. Mr. Tanner? Yes. Mr.
[2:48:53]
Jennings? Yes. Okay. The next one we
will do for budget ordinance. Budget
[2:48:58]
ordinance, please. Mr. Brankley. Yes.
Mr. Grabbit. Yes. Mr. Spence. Yes. Mr.
[2:49:04]
Harro. Yes. Mr. Wilkinson. Yep. M.
Blackwell. Yes. Mrs. Lundy. Yes. Mr.
[2:49:10]
Tanner. Yes. Mr. Jennings. Yes. And then
our capital improvement.
[2:49:16]
Mr. Brinkley. Yes. Mr. Grabbit. Yes. Mr.
Spence. Yes. Mr. Harro. Yes. Mr.
[2:49:23]
Wilkinson. Yes. M. Blackwell. Yes. Mrs.
Lundy. Yes. Mr. Tanner. Yes. Mr.
[2:49:29]
Jennings. Yes. The next one is Chaseet
Elementary GMP. Pursuant to uh
[2:49:38]
56-575-16.5 of the code of Virginia, the
Mechburg County Board of Supervisor
[2:49:42]
hereby authorizes the Merkburg County
School Board to enter into a
[2:49:46]
comprehensive agreement to set in
56-575.9 of the code of Virginia with
[2:49:53]
Blair Construction for the
rehabilitation expansion of Chase Hill
[2:49:56]
Elementary School at a construction
guaranteed maximum price of 34,752,800.
[2:50:06]
76 motion. I would like to put this as a
motion uh to receive that school board
[2:50:13]
receive the uh BL construction
rehabilitation of the school for 34
[2:50:18]
million of best price. Okay, everyone's
heard the motion. All in favor say I. I
[2:50:24]
oppose. The motion carries.
[2:50:28]
Is that all? Okay. All right. Public
comment. I assume we had have none. I
[2:50:33]
think we all through all of that twice.
Yeah. Well, they got tired of talking.
[2:50:38]
We're not going to let them talk. I'm
okay. Um, Alex,
[2:50:46]
we just have your stat reports in here.
Uh, the only thing I'd highlight is we
[2:50:51]
received the uh transformer system uh
that's necessary to power our expansion
[2:50:57]
of this building here. So, hopefully
that work will progress uh smoothly. We
[2:51:01]
were waiting on that part.
Okay. So, that's it. You all right?
[2:51:08]
Chairman's report. We've got an
appointment on the library board.
[2:51:17]
Um, so we've got one that's eligible for
reappointment.
[2:51:24]
Um, Mr. Christy Russell was appointed to
serve the unexpired term of Miss
[2:51:30]
Borhees. I'm not sure how you say her
name, but anyway, u she's eligible for
[2:51:37]
reappoint. Anybody like to make a motion
for that? So, move. All right. All in
[2:51:42]
favor of the motion say I. Motion
carries.
[2:51:46]
And then we've got a
resignation with two years left on the
[2:51:51]
term with Miss I mean, yeah, Amanda
Bowen resigned
[2:51:57]
and she's got two years left on that
term. So, we've got to appoint somebody
[2:52:03]
for that. And we've got Mr. Marcus
Broadwater. I don't know him. I guess I
[2:52:07]
see
the bio in there.
[2:52:12]
Anybody have any comment on that at all?
What are you saying? I thought we just
[2:52:16]
um put one person in, is Christy
Russell, one's resigning. Well, one's
[2:52:21]
resigning, too. Miss Bowman, who's
resigning, but where are you now? At
[2:52:25]
Southside Planning, or you have another
one for I got another one for Okay.
[2:52:29]
Okay.
[2:52:34]
Do we know anything? I don't know. I
don't know anything about
[2:52:39]
on Tom. You know, I do. I do not.
Does it have a resume? Yeah, it's on
[2:52:46]
there. It's not coming up. school with
[2:52:56]
I mean if you got somebody willing to
serve and they qualify let them go. It's
[2:53:00]
kind of way I feel about it. The branch
is you know recommended he's a patron of
[2:53:04]
this and they have changed their bylaws
so that um they need at least um each
[2:53:11]
branch does need at least like one
patron. So this guy would meet those
[2:53:14]
requirements. Okay. Anybody like to make
a motion point this me? Okay. Motion
[2:53:20]
been made. All in favor say I. I. All
right. All right. Let me get to this
[2:53:25]
one. Next one here.
[2:53:37]
You all still making motions. All right.
We've
[2:53:40]
got appointment to safe behavioral
health board and um
[2:53:47]
Calhoun I think is the one we've got to
buy. I think would probably be a very
[2:53:52]
good candidate. Absolutely. Anybody like
to make that motion?
[2:53:58]
Miss Tana made it first. I think she got
you by the nose. Be hidden. Yes, ma'am.
[2:54:03]
Who was on? It's been so long. It's been
I can't even remember. Oh, okay. Okay.
[2:54:09]
All right. All in favor of the motion
for Miss Calhoun, say I. I. Motion
[2:54:13]
carries.
All right. Let me get to the next one.
[2:54:24]
See,
[2:54:30]
what is this on the safe side planning
district right here? What?
[2:54:35]
I don't have anything on that. Let me
look at a couple page. Mr. Chair, uh Mr.
[2:54:40]
Simmons's term expires in June.
Okay, I got it now.
[2:54:46]
Oh, his term expires.
Yeah. June of 25. So, we need somebody
[2:54:51]
else on that, right? He's eligible. He's
eligible for reappoint. Okay. And he's
[2:54:56]
the citizen at large member of that
board. So, that's Claus. Will you want
[2:55:00]
to make that motion? M. Okay. All in
favor of the motion say I. I. The motion
[2:55:07]
carries. I'll entertain a motion to
u approve the consent calendar.
[2:55:14]
So move, Mr. Chairman. All in favor of
the motion say I. I. I. Motion carries.
[2:55:21]
Okay. Board me
mouse. Misspense. You want to go? I
[2:55:28]
can. Um I just had couple of thank yous.
uh recognize a couple of different
[2:55:35]
organizations.
Um we attended the Meckllinburgg fire
[2:55:40]
chief's uh invite um with with a great
meeting. Uh great dinner. Um very
[2:55:48]
informative. Um gave us a lot of insight
I think on where the cost of equipment
[2:55:53]
and what whatnot has gone to. U which I
thought was very important as we move
[2:55:58]
forward. uh considering different pieces
of equipment like we've already had to
[2:56:03]
consider ambulances and things of that
nature. Uh we really do need to
[2:56:08]
understand
uh what the cost of things are u today
[2:56:14]
and how they continue to increase. And I
thought that was uh a very good um
[2:56:20]
presentation that uh the fire chiefs
made and and I I greatly appreciate the
[2:56:25]
invite. uh greatly appreciate them uh
putting on that u presentation. Um I
[2:56:33]
call it that because they had the
equipment laid out and much of the
[2:56:37]
equipment had price tags attached to it
so you could see exactly what that
[2:56:41]
individual piece of equipment costs. Um
so greatly appreciate them doing that
[2:56:47]
and I would encourage them to do that
for the public. I think uh it would be
[2:56:51]
uh very informative for the public. Also
want to thank the uh Mechanburg County
[2:56:56]
uh school board. Uh same thing. We we uh
had a meeting and a dinner with them. Uh
[2:57:03]
had a chance to uh to visit the
Clarksville Elementary School. Uh again,
[2:57:08]
very informative. They did a great job
of u hosting us and showing us around
[2:57:15]
and explaining things and um looking
forward to seeing that school uh up and
[2:57:21]
operating. Nice facility.
That's all. Okay. Miss London Ditto.
[2:57:26]
Plus the play at the high school was
last week, last Friday night evening and
[2:57:34]
Saturday at two. The play Charlotte
Brown is a good person and it was
[2:57:39]
excellent. They did an excellent job. We
did a very excellent job. Okay. You
[2:57:44]
should have seen it. Okay. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, first I
[2:57:51]
want to thank this board and employees
for everybody's thoughts and prayers
[2:57:55]
when my mother passed away a few weeks
ago. It was greatly appreciated. Um, as
[2:58:01]
far as the budget
goes, thank you to Alex and Judy and all
[2:58:06]
of the staff for all of their hard work
on that. I know it's been a multi-month
[2:58:10]
process, but uh I think it's definitely
going to show our commitment to all our
[2:58:15]
employees that, you know, we we're
standing with them. And um on the school
[2:58:22]
board side, thank y'all for the invite.
Clarkville Elementary is a very
[2:58:26]
beautiful building. Looks very nice. Uh
and again, the fire department put on a
[2:58:31]
really nice educational
uh thing the other day. Um one of the
[2:58:36]
things I went to a couple HOA meetings
around the lake because of course that's
[2:58:40]
where the the new uh convenience center
is being built. And uh one of the
[2:58:45]
questions that I got asked there
was what about small amounts of
[2:58:51]
construction material and I think from
the landfield committee side I think
[2:58:56]
it's something that we may need to look
at because you know some of them had the
[2:59:00]
questions of okay if I tear my toilet
out can I take my toilet or do I have to
[2:59:05]
take it to board you know stuff like
that and I think Judy and I talked about
[2:59:08]
it the other night too. I think um Alex
and him had talked about this summer
[2:59:12]
having an intern work on like a a county
newsletter type of thing for the year
[2:59:18]
and possibly if we mail that out maybe
putting some more information in there
[2:59:22]
about the convenience centers and stuff
like that and times what we can take
[2:59:26]
there what we can't and just stuff like
that. Um the other thing as far as the
[2:59:32]
uh solar project that we dealt with
today, um I would say I think one thing
[2:59:37]
we heard out of it was Chase City's need
for some type of support. Um and I think
[2:59:45]
in speaking with Mr. Godchock that the
three projects that we currently have,
[2:59:50]
we get funding from them. Um, I don't
remember the amount off the top of my
[2:59:55]
head, but um, I do think
that Chase City, from everything we've
[3:00:01]
heard and everything else, these solar
farms kind of surround Chase City. I
[3:00:06]
think if we do have a means from the
projects that are currently in
[3:00:11]
production that we
could take the three representatives
[3:00:16]
that are from Chase City and have y'all
talk to Alex, see what the amount is,
[3:00:20]
maybe come back to the board and say,
"Hey, we would like to use that money to
[3:00:24]
try to help Chase City." I just think
Chase City needs something. Um, I mean,
[3:00:29]
I know from like they said riding
through there, there a lot of
[3:00:32]
storefronts and stuff like that and
every town is facing
[3:00:36]
um aging infrastructure and everything
else. But I think if um since we don't I
[3:00:43]
don't think we're going to move forward
with any more projects. We're going to
[3:00:46]
stay where we at. I think it would be a
good uh use of that money to at least
[3:00:50]
benefit those citizens in that area uh
for what we have approved
[3:00:55]
anyway. And that's all I got, M. All
right. Thank you, Mr. Mike. Well, that
[3:01:01]
feeding off what Tom said, can you come
up with that amount of money that we get
[3:01:05]
per year off of those three projects?
Yes, we do have the uh revenues that we
[3:01:10]
get from those projects, they are not
significant. I mean, they're more than a
[3:01:14]
homeowner, of course, but they are not
large because we did not have the
[3:01:19]
sighting agreements in place at the
time. So, we have no upfront capital
[3:01:23]
payments from them. nor were we allowed
to impose uh the revenue sharing amount
[3:01:28]
on it, the $1,400 per megawatt that is
now allowed by law. So, um we pretty
[3:01:34]
much only get the real estate uh revenue
off of it. Um we don't even get
[3:01:39]
machinery and tools tax rate because of
the magnitude of the projects. The code
[3:01:44]
of Virginia has a um special provision
in there that if you're over a certain
[3:01:49]
amount of megawws, you're taxed at the
real estate rate and not the machinery
[3:01:53]
and tools rate. So, we get that 36 cents
per hundred on um the improvements on
[3:02:00]
the land as well, but it's only the real
estate tax rate. So, there is a revenue
[3:02:04]
that comes in from it. It's part of our
overall um revenue picture. Um and we
[3:02:10]
could certainly
um designate those funds to support
[3:02:16]
other activities. Um but it's not going
to be um
[3:02:21]
significantly lifealtering for economic
uh changes in that community. Now, do
[3:02:28]
they do they get any of the money from
the the 92 project or Microsoft is right
[3:02:34]
there? Will they don't get No. Chase
City is a partner. Well, the Chase City
[3:02:40]
IDA is a partner as well as the
Clarksville EDA in the Lakeside Commerce
[3:02:45]
Park development um next to Okanichi.
And so they will get a share of the
[3:02:52]
proceeds from that development. So there
is a dedicated revenue source related to
[3:02:57]
data center development that will funnel
back into Chase City. Um that site is
[3:03:02]
not currently at the point of having
active building. um right now, but at
[3:03:08]
some point in the near future it will
and they will start generating some um
[3:03:12]
direct revenue based on that. But the
ones that are immediately in the
[3:03:16]
vicinity of Chase City, no, those were
not in the town limits. Um they were in
[3:03:20]
the county and there was no partnership
um that was provided by the town towards
[3:03:26]
its development. Now they are um given
the water and the um well not the water
[3:03:32]
the the wastewater um services and they
will get some plant upgrades
[3:03:38]
accordingly. Um so there is a net
benefit to the town aside from being
[3:03:42]
just a customer um as a result of that
particular development being located
[3:03:47]
where it is situated. So when they get
built and all, is it possible we could
[3:03:52]
look at what that one facility will they
break it down where that we could see
[3:03:56]
what that one facility is generating
moneywise and maybe look at sharing that
[3:04:02]
with them in a a certain amount or
something. Um that's a possibility. Um,
[3:04:08]
there's also the possibility that you
could retain that revenue and direct it
[3:04:12]
on your own accord for projects that you
deem to be beneficial in that area
[3:04:16]
rather than passing it through to
another party, right? Because you know
[3:04:22]
the the mud or everything that Chase it
is dealing with that not not so much the
[3:04:26]
county and everything and all and all.
So you brought that
[3:04:32]
and I'm I'm sorry I missed that clause
on elementary meal and tour. Um I hope
[3:04:36]
we will have another one. I'll come if
you don't have a meal but if you do have
[3:04:40]
another one I'll come to
that but uh and do that and uh yeah the
[3:04:45]
the the fire department what they did in
here um at board and that that that was
[3:04:49]
great real eye opening. Again I think
the public needs to see some of that and
[3:04:54]
all too and do that. Well we um of
course we
[3:04:59]
did the seven bridges today. We analyst
is coming back again to we'll have to
[3:05:05]
hear that. Where are we at with the like
the Finnywood? Have they provided
[3:05:09]
anything or going forward? Because I
know we talked about they got a certain
[3:05:12]
amount of days or something to do
something and have we heard anything
[3:05:15]
from them? They ha we have heard from
them. Um they did previously agree to
[3:05:21]
extend uh the period of time in which we
have to hear uh and make a decision on
[3:05:28]
their project. They have not submitted
um a revised sighting agreement and they
[3:05:34]
have not given us an indication that
they wish for their hearing to be
[3:05:38]
scheduled at this point in time. So how
much longer do we wait because I think
[3:05:41]
we got some things in place of moving
the cap down.
[3:05:45]
You know we voted on that. So, how long
do we wait for them to come? September
[3:05:50]
24th.
Mhm. I made that motion to vote to to
[3:05:55]
cap it at where it's at. Yeah. Once once
these go through. Yeah. So, the period
[3:06:00]
of time in which they have agreed to is
um in the late summer. So we we will
[3:06:06]
have to they will either have to
indicate to us affirmatively that they
[3:06:11]
um wish to have that hearing or else um
that period of time is going to elapse.
[3:06:17]
Okay. So in September. Mhm.
Okay. So by September by September it
[3:06:25]
will by September there will be one way
or the other. Okay. That's all I got.
[3:06:31]
I'm sorry Mr. Fargo got overlooked again
on his road, but I mean we want to kind
[3:06:35]
of keep that going. It's a lot of fun.
You I I guess he's just trying to
[3:06:39]
preserve the rule integrity of
your own 60
[3:06:45]
year 60.
Well, you know those are silver
[3:06:51]
it thank you. I don't have a lot. Um
just glad to see you know about the
[3:06:57]
budget. Thank y'all for all y'all's
work. All, you know, one one of this
[3:07:01]
size that we're all in agreeance on most
things says a lot about our board and
[3:07:05]
the county. We got sort of same vision
going forward and um that's a good
[3:07:09]
thing. It could certainly be another
way. So, we should all be thankful for
[3:07:12]
that. And
um you know, I'm glad to see we can step
[3:07:16]
up, you know, helping out and paving
some of these roads. You know, I mean,
[3:07:20]
it the 60-year plan, as you just said, I
mean, it seems like it just takes
[3:07:24]
forever. And for us to have the ability
to expedite all this, I mean, people
[3:07:27]
need to recognize that, you know, that's
a part of some of the growing pains with
[3:07:31]
the industry in this county, but that
would not happen. That was just a small
[3:07:33]
example or an investment in all
employees, which is a good investment,
[3:07:37]
but I'm just saying people really need
to recognize that. Um, and you know,
[3:07:42]
going back to Chase City, I think we
should I don't know the correct route,
[3:07:45]
but we should try to help in any way we
can. It all seems like they're all
[3:07:48]
basically due to infrastructure. that's
where they're all focused, you know, and
[3:07:52]
I understand that, you know, but, you
know, we really need to do what we can
[3:07:56]
to support them and and I hope that
people in that area don't take it
[3:08:01]
personally the votes that we did today
for the solar. You know, we're not
[3:08:05]
trying to hurt them, not support them in
any way. It's not about that at all. You
[3:08:09]
know, I I personally feel like it get
voted down for other reasons, but I just
[3:08:13]
hope that that residents will realize
that. So, that's all I
[3:08:19]
The two
Elementary is very nice. The building
[3:08:23]
and the campus
um fire department. The meal was
[3:08:27]
delicious and um display of equipment
shows exactly what is needed and what
[3:08:34]
improvements have been made. Thank you
to Alex and Juny for your work on the
[3:08:40]
budget and a great big thank you for
Alex for his leadership.
[3:08:46]
Um the investment is in you is well
worth
[3:08:59]
I mean I mean yeah everything everybody
said spot on. I couldn't agree more. And
[3:09:04]
I just want to do I just wanted to also
go ahead and apologize for not being
[3:09:08]
able to come to the elementary school. I
was trying to get off work as as much as
[3:09:12]
I could, but the boss wouldn't let me
off so that I might get fired, so I
[3:09:18]
didn't get fired from my job. But, uh,
like I say, I I I drive by it often and
[3:09:25]
I know they're making wonderful
progress. The facility from the outside
[3:09:28]
looks beautiful from my, you know, from
my perspective. Um, but other than that,
[3:09:34]
everybody be safe,
right? I'm the only standing between us
[3:09:39]
at lunch. So I promise you I
brief let Miss
[3:09:45]
Oh yeah, I forgot about you
over I started like this right here and
[3:09:51]
I forget I skip over him right hand man
over I had the right name for he been
[3:09:58]
writing over there for 30
minutes take my time up I had the right
[3:10:02]
I had the right hand over
I'm telling you when I get in a hurry
[3:10:06]
man I'm in a hurry he's thinking about
his food. I really get things done.
[3:10:10]
Yeah, it's raining. You know, I I really
was appreciative. I was at a funeral one
[3:10:15]
day and someone walked to me and said,
"Well, we interested in some property in
[3:10:19]
Palm Springs and I didn't want to worry
him and and chase him off." So, I called
[3:10:24]
him a couple of times and and so I he
got my phone number and he's supposed to
[3:10:28]
call me back to put a convenience center
over there. Uh, and I haven't heard from
[3:10:33]
him since Saturday, and I'm trying not
to dial his number, but I'm, you know,
[3:10:38]
kind of
fidgety. So, I do want to try to for
[3:10:42]
Wayne and us to go over and take a look
at it so that we can try to acquire it
[3:10:46]
while he's while he's has the intention
um for the budget. Thank you, Alex, and
[3:10:52]
Miss Judy and so forth for doing the
budget and whoever else is affiliated
[3:10:55]
associated with that. I do appreciate I
do appreciate that. Uh, Mr. Bailey came
[3:11:01]
and sat last Saturday and did a CPR
class for us from the EMS. Miss David De
[3:11:06]
set him up and Mr. Justin was also aware
of that and I think that's his name, Mr.
[3:11:11]
Bailey. Is that correct? Okay, Mr. M.
And so he did a CPR class and it was a
[3:11:16]
wonderful thing that he taught. Now I
would advise uh if you need a CPA CPR
[3:11:22]
class taught to get with Mr. Justin or
Miss David to have one set up. They are
[3:11:28]
very informative and is something that I
believe every organization needs to be
[3:11:32]
aware of because you never know when you
will need that time for it to to um to
[3:11:36]
accelerate on your experience of EMS.
And
[3:11:40]
also that's another concern is that um I
I think the reason why that we do what
[3:11:47]
we do here as far as solar is because of
but the lack of trust from the public.
[3:11:54]
Um the public right now they say this,
they say that and everybody makes
[3:11:59]
promises until the actuality come in and
then that's when the promises are really
[3:12:04]
really being revealed. And thus far the
last three entities has not revealed the
[3:12:12]
positivity that they proclaimed. And so
someone that come in whole is trying
[3:12:18]
that public don't trust right now
because they've been bit three times. So
[3:12:22]
you can't tell me that the dog going to
bite and get it bit three times. So and
[3:12:26]
this is f where I think what we stand at
right now and and and it's it's harmful
[3:12:31]
for Chase said it do need something to
help them. Uh and that was one of the
[3:12:35]
reason why I believe the first time we
approved it because they said this is
[3:12:39]
going to happen. Uh and it it affected
some but it didn't do a whole lot of
[3:12:43]
change because nothing last over a
period of time. And also the elementary
[3:12:48]
school is a wonderful school and we
thank you for having us there. And the
[3:12:52]
real reason why you had dinner there
because you were hoping Mr. Brinker
[3:12:54]
would come and he
would. So uh and next time just invite
[3:13:00]
us to school was because he either going
to come or he's not. Thank you. Very
[3:13:05]
good. I I completely agree with
everything everybody else has said.
[3:13:10]
Thank y'all on working on the budget.
You always do a wonderful job. do a
[3:13:14]
great job and the detail in it is
superb. Um, I would like to follow up
[3:13:20]
what Tom said about uh Chay City. I
think something needs to be done. Mifel,
[3:13:26]
I know you have the the lion cha of the
district there, but I think Mr. Brankley
[3:13:30]
and I on iota edges of he on the west
and I'm on the east. So, if we could,
[3:13:36]
Alex, maybe try to put something
together, maybe you can come up with
[3:13:39]
something to recommend and we can maybe
meet briefly before our next meeting and
[3:13:46]
kind of outline some things that uh
could be done to help them. You know, we
[3:13:51]
thrive and the county is thriving right
now and and we need to take everybody
[3:13:56]
with us. AB: Absolutely. You know,
absolutely. Just quick question. Uh you
[3:14:01]
mentioned Chase City. So, is is there no
additional uh uh industrial property out
[3:14:07]
there? Right. Because Microsoft took up
what we had. Correct.
[3:14:12]
There is a very small site that is in
the north side of Chase City. Um there
[3:14:20]
is a warehouse that is in not great
shape that is located there. Um which we
[3:14:27]
do not own and has suffered some
violations. Um, so it is possible to
[3:14:34]
cobble together a very very small site
up there, but there is not going to be
[3:14:38]
the potential presently for a very large
site, especially if you don't want to
[3:14:44]
bound this the town's growth potential.
And that's part of the issues that have
[3:14:50]
arisen with um one of the solar
facilities being cited over there is it
[3:14:55]
took off potential areas for the town to
grow. Um so building immediately on the
[3:15:02]
line isn't always a great thing because
you cut off any residential
[3:15:07]
potential. Um so you could get a small
site up there but uh you wouldn't get a
[3:15:12]
a large scale industrial site because
the of the ones immed like you said the
[3:15:17]
ones immediately around it have been
taken for that purpose. Just thought
[3:15:21]
there was another option. Okay. All
right. But if we can do that maybe talk
[3:15:25]
briefly before our next meeting that'd
be that'd be great. All right. Anybody
[3:15:29]
have anything else?
We'll stand a journ.