[1:14] down.

[1:24] Heat.

[1:39] Hey.

[2:32] Hey,

[2:37] hey,

[2:48] hey.

[4:31] » [screaming]

[5:02] » Heat.

[5:20] Hey, Heat.

[5:42] Heat. Heat.

[5:52] I

[5:59] know

[6:01] I

[6:03] where

[6:31] Wow.

[6:39] Wow. Wow.

[6:42] Wow. Wow.

[7:57] regular. Meeting number 31 will now come

[7:59] to order. Please stand for the playing

[8:00] of the national anthem.

[8:19] [music]

[8:20] Heat.

[8:24] [music]

[8:29] [music]

[8:43] [music]

[8:46] Heat.

[8:48] Council

[8:51] [music]

[9:00] [music]

[9:04] [music]

[9:11] [music]

[9:15] member Remy, would you lead us in the

[9:16] pledge? I aliance to the flag of the

[9:20] United States of America and to the

[9:22] republic for it stands one nation under

[9:26] God indivisibley

[9:29] and justice for all

[9:31] » This evening council is grateful to have

[9:32] pastor TJ Lynch from Gethsemane Lutheran

[9:35] Church to lead us in prayer. Pastor

[9:38] welcome to council.

[9:46] Good evening, council members, and thank

[9:48] you for having me this evening. If you

[9:49] would please join me in prayer.

[9:53] Gracious and almighty God, we come

[9:55] before you with grateful hearts,

[9:57] recognizing that every good gift comes

[9:59] from you. We thank you for the privilege

[10:02] of living in this city and for those who

[10:04] have accepted the responsibility of

[10:05] public service. We ask your blessing

[10:08] upon the members of this council, our

[10:10] mayor, city employees, first responders,

[10:13] and all who work each day for the

[10:14] welfare of our community. Grant these

[10:17] leaders wisdom to discern what is right,

[10:20] courage to pursue justice even when it

[10:22] is difficult. Humility to listen well

[10:24] and compassion for every person they

[10:26] serve. Help them to seek not personal

[10:29] gain or political victory, but the

[10:31] flourishing of the people entrusted to

[10:33] their care. We also pray for the

[10:35] residents of Columbus. Teach us to be

[10:38] good neighbors, to show kindness to one

[10:40] another, to care for those who are

[10:42] vulnerable, and to work together for

[10:44] peace, safety, and opportunity for all.

[10:48] Where there's division, bring

[10:49] understanding. Where there is

[10:51] discouragement, bring hope. Where there

[10:53] is need, inspire generosity and faithful

[10:56] service. Remind us that true leadership

[10:59] is found not in being served, but in

[11:02] serving others. And may that spirit of

[11:04] servant leadership guide all who hold

[11:06] positions of authority. And may our city

[11:09] reflect the values of truth, integrity,

[11:12] mercy, and love. We ask all of this in

[11:15] your holy name. Amen.

[11:17] » Amen. Thank you, Pastor Cler. Please

[11:19] call the role.

[11:20] » Bankston Barrosa de Padilla de Akawa,

[11:22] Dorren Green, Remy Ross, Vice President

[11:24] Harden. Any person who takes any action

[11:26] to obstruct or interfere with the

[11:28] conduct of tonight's meeting may be

[11:30] charged with disturbing a lawful meeting

[11:32] pursuant to Columbus City Code 2317.12.

[11:36] Any person who enters those areas of

[11:38] city council chambers reserved for city

[11:39] officials or invited guests may be

[11:41] charged with criminal trespass pursuant

[11:43] to Columbus city code 2311.21.

[11:47] » Thank you madam clerk. Can I get a

[11:48] motion with the journal?

[11:50] » Clerk, please call the role. Banks Tim

[11:51] Rosa de Padilla de Akawa Dors Green Remy

[11:54] Ross Vice President Harden.

[11:56] » Are there any additions or corrections

[11:58] to the journal hear? None. The journal

[12:00] is approved. This week's communication

[12:01] received by the city clerk's office are

[12:02] listed on the agenda and will be

[12:03] published in the record. Are there any

[12:05] other communications to be read to the

[12:06] record?

[12:06] » Not at this time.

[12:07] » Thank you madam clerk. We'll go around

[12:08] the dis for updates and resolutions by

[12:11] my colleagues starting with council

[12:12] member Bangston.

[12:13] » Uh thank you council president. I do

[12:14] have one resolution uh this evening and

[12:18] as I introduce resolution 0149X-20226,

[12:23] I'm going to ask uh director uh Sam Orth

[12:26] if he would come uh to the podium, our

[12:28] chief information officer. Uh this is to

[12:31] honor and recognize Sam Orth on

[12:33] retirement from the city of Columbus.

[12:35] Director Orth originally joined Mayor

[12:38] Ginther's administration in July 2016,

[12:41] bringing decades of experience in

[12:42] information technology, government

[12:44] operations, education technology, and

[12:47] private sector innovation. Throughout

[12:49] his tenure with the city of Columbus,

[12:50] Director Orth has demonstrated

[12:52] exceptional leadership in advancing

[12:55] technology solutions, strengthening

[12:57] digital infrastructure, and supporting

[12:59] the delivery of efficient and effective

[13:01] city services. Director Ort's

[13:04] contributions have included

[13:05] transformative technology initiatives

[13:08] that have modernized city operations,

[13:10] improved service delivery, and position

[13:13] Columbus for continued innovation and

[13:15] success. Uh, director, thank you uh for

[13:18] guiding our city uh with a cool head and

[13:20] a steady hand as we navigated the most

[13:23] complex technological

[13:28] advancements and challenges the city has

[13:30] ever faced during your tenure. Uh, you

[13:33] will truly be missed, but I know

[13:35] firsthand that you are leaving us in the

[13:38] hands of an incredible team at the

[13:41] Department of Technology. I wish you

[13:43] nothing but the best and hope your

[13:45] retirement is filled with travel, time

[13:47] with family, and amazing experiences.

[13:51] Uh, and as I said in those prepared

[13:53] remarks, to think about what we would go

[13:56] through in 2020,

[13:58] uh, to turn on a dime, uh, to shift an

[14:01] enterprise of 9,000 employees to to

[14:04] virtual, which we were not set up for,

[14:07] uh, and many governments weren't. uh

[14:09] then to also go through another

[14:12] challenging time with a cyber attack.

[14:14] Again, something that organizations our

[14:16] size are not uh uh is not unique to us.

[14:20] Uh and something that we're not exempt

[14:22] from. Uh but through it all, I think you

[14:24] handled it with grace. Uh and you stay

[14:27] cool, calm, and collected even when I

[14:30] didn't know what the hell was going on,

[14:31] but you did. Um and so I appreciate that

[14:35] leadership. Um, before I ask you to for

[14:38] any remarks, I'm going to ask if my

[14:39] colleagues have any comments. Um, before

[14:42] I turn it over to Director Orth.

[14:45] All right. Oh, Council Member, thank you

[14:48] very much, Council Member Bangston.

[14:50] Director, welld deserved. Um, thank you

[14:52] for your service to this city. Thank you

[14:55] for the work that you've put in and even

[14:57] some advice about which internet I

[14:59] should have at home. So, appreciate

[15:00] that. Um, but certainly we appreciate

[15:04] all that you've done and your

[15:06] contributions to our technology here and

[15:10] uh hopefully you're got some good

[15:11] [clears throat] plans for the future.

[15:13] Um, welldeserved relaxation and and we

[15:16] appreciate all that you've done. So,

[15:18] thank you and yeah, we appreciate you.

[15:23] » Uh, President Proip.

[15:24] » Yeah, George Worth, congratulations.

[15:26] Welld deserved. Um, you know, I had the

[15:28] pleasure of working with you as the

[15:29] chair of the technology committee when I

[15:30] first came on council. It was actually a

[15:32] great way for me to learn so much of the

[15:34] functions of the city. You were so

[15:35] generous with your time and really

[15:37] helping me better understand from a

[15:39] technology standpoint everything the

[15:40] city does. Everything from, you know,

[15:42] literally keeping council running to our

[15:44] folks in public safety, uh, to our

[15:46] folks, you know, as council member

[15:48] Benson mentioned, literally during COVID

[15:49] talking about turning thousands of

[15:51] workers into virtual workers overnight.

[15:54] uh you know that that was such a

[15:56] monumental task and navigating that

[15:58] you've you've done u throughout your

[16:00] career at the city um definition of a

[16:03] public servant and just want to thank

[16:04] you for spending you know all these

[16:05] years with with Columbus to help uh us

[16:07] serve our residents better so

[16:09] welldeserved retirement and just

[16:10] appreciate the service.

[16:14] » All right with that I will turn the

[16:15] floor over to you director.

[16:18] Well, good evening, President Harden,

[16:19] President Proen Dorne, Chair Banks, and

[16:21] members of council.

[16:23] I'm calm, cool, and collected. I don't

[16:25] know if I'm going to be able to do that

[16:26] tonight. Um,

[16:28] my mom grew up in Clintonville. She

[16:30] attended North High School and taught at

[16:33] Indian Springs Elementary School. Um, my

[16:36] grandfather and father operated our

[16:38] family business at Fifth and Norton and

[16:40] Grand View for over 60 years.

[16:44] In 1976, when my father's company was

[16:47] catastrophically damaged by a four alarm

[16:49] fire on my mother's birthday,

[16:52] it was the Columbus Division of Fire

[16:55] that saved what remained of the

[16:57] business. Support that proved to be

[17:00] vital and pivotal in keeping the company

[17:02] alive. It's still in business today.

[17:06] As you know, um, I've served in many

[17:08] government roles over the last 29 years,

[17:10] but in many ways, coming to work for the

[17:13] city of Columbus has always felt like

[17:15] coming home.

[17:17] I felt that way from the day I walked in

[17:19] the door.

[17:21] I will carry that with me, that sense of

[17:24] teamwork, collaboration, support. As I

[17:26] leave public service, I've long believed

[17:29] that the best we can do as public

[17:31] servants is to leave our organizations

[17:33] better than we found them. There's a

[17:36] long list of successful initiatives,

[17:38] programs, and projects we could point to

[17:40] over the last decade.

[17:42] Together, we stood up the city's B

[17:44] city's first body warden and camera

[17:46] program, modernized our data centers and

[17:48] core infrastructure, helped replace

[17:49] legacy 311 payroll and income tax

[17:52] systems, enabled departments to adopt

[17:55] literally hundreds of new technology

[17:56] platforms, expanded the city's use of

[17:59] data integration, analytics, and

[18:00] visualization, supported remote

[18:03] government operations during COVID, and

[18:06] helped the city navigate to recover from

[18:08] a cyber attack.

[18:09] The scale, complexity, importance of

[18:11] that work cannot be overstated.

[18:15] Having worked in IT for 44 years, I can

[18:18] tell you there's no such thing as

[18:20] perfect. There's highs and lows,

[18:22] successes and setbacks, but there's one

[18:24] constant that drives value in

[18:26] information technology. It's always been

[18:30] about the people.

[18:33] Over the course of my career, I've

[18:34] learned the technology changes

[18:36] constantly, but leadership, teamwork,

[18:37] integrity, trust, and commitment to

[18:39] service endure. Those qualities are what

[18:42] I've seen repeatedly throughout the city

[18:45] and especially among the women and men

[18:47] of the department of technology. They

[18:48] are what give me confidence in its

[18:50] future. One of my favorite quotes is

[18:53] from Alfred Lord Tennis's poem,

[18:55] Ulicities, I am part of all that I have

[18:57] met. As I reflect on my time with this

[19:00] city that quote resonates deeply because

[19:02] each of you has shaped my journey as a

[19:05] leader, colleague, and public servant, I

[19:08] will carry those experiences, the

[19:10] lessons, friendships, challenges,

[19:12] successes, and even failures with me

[19:15] long after I leave this role. I want to

[19:18] express my gratitude to Mayor Andrew

[19:20] Ginther for the opportunity to serve the

[19:22] residents of Columbus and lead the

[19:24] department of technology over the last

[19:26] dec decade. I'd also like to thank uh

[19:29] three chiefs of staff I've had the

[19:31] privilege to work alongside during that

[19:33] time Greg Davies, Ken Paul, and Elon

[19:35] Sims for their leadership, partnership,

[19:37] support, and friendship throughout the

[19:39] many challenges and opportunities we

[19:41] face together. And I want to express my

[19:45] appreciation to city council, especially

[19:48] chair Stenziano, Dorans, and Bankston,

[19:50] as well as to my many my many cabinet,

[19:53] city attorney, and auditor colleagues

[19:54] and partners across city government,

[19:58] whose collaboration made so much of our

[20:00] work possible. But most importantly, I

[20:02] want to thank the employees of the

[20:04] Department of Technology, past and

[20:05] present, who made all of this work

[20:07] possible. They are and remain the little

[20:10] engine that can achieve many great

[20:12] things.

[20:14] Serving as a city CIO has been one of

[20:16] the great honors of my professional

[20:18] life. Thank you for your

[20:20] professionalism, resilience, friendship,

[20:22] and unwavering commitment to public

[20:25] service. Most importantly, thank you for

[20:28] the opportunity to serve alongside you

[20:30] and to grow with you. I wish you all

[20:33] peace, joy, and continued sense of

[20:35] purpose in your service to the residents

[20:38] of Columbus.

[20:40] » Well, thank you um uh director again for

[20:43] your service. You know, it especially

[20:47] now sometimes is uh a thankless role,

[20:50] right? We love it when it's working

[20:52] well. [laughter]

[20:54] When it's not, you're the first person

[20:56] we call and cuss out and point and say,

[20:58] "What the what is going on?"

[21:00] uh but it's an evolving uh world in

[21:04] information technology and I think that

[21:05] you've helped guide us through that and

[21:07] put the city uh in a better footing to

[21:10] be able to address uh we are an evolving

[21:13] institution um and not just from a

[21:16] technological standpoint but even

[21:17] processes and having you in those

[21:20] conversations when we talk about things

[21:22] like budgeting and forecasting and how

[21:25] we think about the city. All of that

[21:27] centers now around technology and we

[21:29] can't divorce the two. Uh and I think I

[21:32] said this many times during what we were

[21:34] going through that this is now vital

[21:36] infrastructure uh for the city. It's no

[21:39] longer just simply a tool but it is

[21:41] critical public infrastructure that we

[21:43] have to protect uh that we have to

[21:45] continue to invest in. And I think

[21:47] through your leadership we have a

[21:49] framework that will help guide us there.

[21:51] Now the rest of the team you gave them

[21:53] the hard work to finish it. Now you

[21:54] didn't gave them the framework but they

[21:56] got to finish the the work but I think

[21:58] you have an amazing team uh and really

[22:00] looking forward to uh what they will do

[22:02] but more importantly thankful to you and

[22:05] hopefully you get uh some rest and

[22:07] relaxation. I'm going to say this and I

[22:09] don't now I'm now seeing our confidence

[22:10] the director expressed to me he has not

[22:13] left uh the United States from a travel

[22:16] standpoint. So we want you to go travel

[22:18] with your your your your wife and have a

[22:21] great time. Where are you going? You

[22:22] told me where where's the first place

[22:23] you're traveling to?

[22:25] » Probably Great Britain,

[22:27] where my mom's family's from. My dad's

[22:29] family's from Germany, but uh I'm

[22:32] probably going to start in Great

[22:33] Britain.

[22:33] » Well, we wish you all the great uh

[22:36] travels. Uh look forward to looking at

[22:38] all the pictures and and watching you as

[22:40] you sell off into retirement. Uh any

[22:42] other final comments before All right.

[22:45] With that, I move for adoption on

[22:47] resolution 0128x-2026.

[22:50] Second. as chair of the finance

[22:52] committee. I thought he was going to

[22:52] say, "And you have a paid trip to

[22:54] somewhere, but

[22:56] congratulations." And clerk, please call

[22:58] those [applause]

[23:02] 0149.

[23:07] [applause]

[23:11] [applause]

[23:18] And I'll call the role. It's Bankston

[23:20] Barrosa de Padilla Teak Awards Green

[23:23] Remy Ross Vice President Harden

[23:25] » Adopted

[23:28] uh council member Rosa de Padilla.

[23:30] » Thank you council president. I have one

[23:33] very long overdue announcement today. Um

[23:37] that is happy World Cup everyone. As of

[23:40] today there are 64 games left in the

[23:43] World Cup. And while we tried very very

[23:46] hard to get our guests from Ecuador,

[23:49] team Ecuador to come to council, Monday

[23:51] was not a good day for them. We had lots

[23:53] of holidays. So, uh, but I have lots of

[23:56] Ecuadorian friends and constituents that

[23:58] have been calling me. So, I wanted to

[24:00] make sure that we made the

[24:01] acknowledgement today. I want to

[24:03] officially give a shout out to the

[24:05] Ecuador World Cup team. Since May 21st,

[24:08] Team Ecuador has called Columbus their

[24:10] home or base camp. during their stay in

[24:12] the United States for the FIFA World

[24:14] Cup. On June 2nd, nearly 1,000

[24:18] Ecuadorian fans came to a free community

[24:21] open training to watch team Ecuador

[24:23] train. On June 7th, they beat Guatemala

[24:27] 3 to zero at Scott's Miracle Grow Field

[24:29] in a friendly game to prepare for the

[24:32] World Cup. There were over 10,000 people

[24:35] in attendance with 100 free community

[24:38] tickets provided to the Ohio Hispanic

[24:40] Coalition and the local Guatemalan

[24:42] consulate. Uh Latino students from CCS

[24:46] and around the region were invited to

[24:48] come out and walk with the players from

[24:50] both Guatemala and Ecuador. Uh their

[24:52] last stage match will be on June 25th

[24:55] against Germany at 400 p.m. in New

[24:57] Jersey. So,

[25:01] much.

[25:04] Um, I hope you enjoyed your time here

[25:06] and wish you good luck in the rest of

[25:08] the World Cup. And that's all for me.

[25:11] » Thank you, Council Member. Council

[25:12] Deakau.

[25:13] » Thank you, Council President. I would

[25:15] like to take a couple minutes and invite

[25:17] up Colonel Bill Butler from the National

[25:19] Veterans Memorial and Museum to discuss

[25:21] an exciting new initiative. In the past,

[25:24] NVMM has organized a meaningful

[25:27] remembrance ceremony on September 11th

[25:29] to honor the lives lost to the terror

[25:31] attacks in 2001. However, this year,

[25:34] they are looking to reinvent how we come

[25:36] together as a community to remember this

[25:39] solemn day by starting a citywide day of

[25:42] service as is done in numerous cities

[25:44] across the country. Later on in the

[25:46] agenda, council will be voting on

[25:48] ordinance 1835-2026

[25:51] to provide funding for this initiative.

[25:53] And so given the extensive agenda this

[25:56] evening, I've invited Colonel Butler to

[25:58] speak at the top of this meeting about

[26:00] this exciting new initiative. Colonel,

[26:02] the floor is yours.

[26:03] » Good evening, President Harden, Council

[26:05] Member Day Aau, other esteemed members

[26:07] of the Columbus City Council. Thank you

[26:09] for the opportunity to speak tonight and

[26:11] for your continued support of the

[26:13] National Veterans Memorial Museum. Over

[26:16] the past year, the museum has res

[26:17] refined its mission and vision. Today,

[26:20] our purpose is clear to honor all

[26:22] veterans, elevate their stories, and

[26:24] amplify the power of service for

[26:26] everyone, everywhere. That vision has

[26:29] challenged us to think differently about

[26:30] how we com commemorate September 11th.

[26:34] For many years, communities have

[26:35] gathered to remember where we were when

[26:37] we learned of the terrorist attacks. We

[26:39] remember the lives lost, the courage

[26:42] displayed, and the unity that followed.

[26:45] Those memories remain important. But 25

[26:49] years later, we believe the most

[26:50] meaningful way to honor that legacy is

[26:53] not simply to remember service and

[26:55] sacrifice. It is to practice it. That is

[26:59] why the National Veterans Memorial and

[27:00] Museum is partnering with 911 Day, the

[27:02] city of Columbus, Mid Ohio Food

[27:05] Collective, local schools, nonprofits,

[27:07] corporate partners, and community

[27:09] organizations to transform September

[27:12] 11th, 2026 into a citywide day of

[27:16] service. Columbus has been selected as

[27:19] one of only 50 cities nationwide

[27:22] participating in this effort, and NVMM

[27:24] will serve as the official host site for

[27:27] our community.

[27:28] This is not intended to be a single

[27:30] event at the museum. Our vision is a

[27:32] citywide movement of service with

[27:34] opportunities for residents to

[27:36] participate through neighborhood-based

[27:38] projects, community centers, parks,

[27:40] schools, nonprofit organizations, and

[27:43] civics groups across Columbus. At the

[27:46] museum, the centerpiece of the day will

[27:48] bring together approximately 200

[27:50] volunteers to pack 75,000 meals. Those

[27:54] meals will be distributed by the Mid

[27:56] Ohio Food Collective to families facing

[27:59] food insecurity throughout our region.

[28:02] The goal is simple. Honor their

[28:04] sacrifice, bring people together, and

[28:08] serve others. One day, one community,

[28:12] hundreds of volunteers, and

[28:14] approximately a 100,000 acts of service

[28:17] to others. That's real impact. With your

[28:21] support, we can create a lasting

[28:22] tradition that transforms September 11th

[28:25] from a day of remembrance alone into a

[28:28] day of remembrance through action. We

[28:30] can inspire thousands of Columbus

[28:32] residents to ask a simple but powerful

[28:35] question. What can I do to serve my

[28:38] community? Together, we can honor the

[28:40] past, strengthen our neighborhoods, and

[28:42] demonstrate that the spirit of unity and

[28:44] service that emerged from September 11th

[28:47] is still alive in Columbus today. Thank

[28:50] you for your partnership, your

[28:51] leadership, and for your support.

[28:54] » Thank you, Colonel, for being here this

[28:55] evening, and I look forward to

[28:57] partnering with uh you and the museum on

[29:00] this community focused initiative um to

[29:03] honor um 911. So, thank you so much. And

[29:06] that's all for me, Council President.

[29:07] » Thank you.

[29:08] » Thank you.

[29:09] » Thank you, Council Member Preso Tim.

[29:12] » Thank you. Just uh one announcement

[29:13] tonight. Um, this Wednesday at 1 p.m.

[29:16] here in city hall, uh, we will be having

[29:18] a hearing with the workforce education,

[29:20] labor committee on the proposed

[29:22] transition of Columbus' early start

[29:23] program to Franken County. Uh, Early

[29:26] Start Columbus is the city's highquality

[29:28] preschool initiative initiative that

[29:29] helps eligible Columbus families access

[29:31] free or lowcost prek opportunities for

[29:34] their children through community based

[29:35] providers and Columbus City Schools. We

[29:38] will hear from uh representatives of the

[29:39] mayor's office of education, county

[29:41] commissioner Eric Crowley, uh

[29:43] representatives from the county and

[29:44] action for children about the transition

[29:46] and what that would mean for our

[29:47] childcare providers and families if

[29:49] council decides to move forward with

[29:51] this proposal. The hearing will be

[29:53] livereamed on YouTube and Facebook and

[29:55] we will be accepting speaker slips from

[29:57] now and until 11:00 a.m. on the day of

[29:59] the hearing. If you're interested in

[30:01] testifying, please email my aid, Annie

[30:03] McDonald, abdonnclums.gov

[30:06] to sign up to speak. Uh, that's all I

[30:08] have. Thank you.

[30:09] » Thank you, President Proou. Council

[30:11] member Green.

[30:13] » Thank [snorts] you, Council Member Remy.

[30:15] » Thank you very much, Council President.

[30:16] I just want to remind everybody that the

[30:17] public safety and criminal justice

[30:19] committee will be hosting a hearing on

[30:20] the Division of Fire apparatus um this

[30:24] Thursday, June 25th at 2:30 in council

[30:26] chambers. So, anyone wishing to submit

[30:28] written or public testimony should email

[30:31] my aid Pedro Mahia at pdmejalus.gov

[30:37] with a title fire hearing by 12 p.m. on

[30:40] Wednesday, June 24th. Thank you very

[30:42] much. That's all I have this evening.

[30:44] » Thank you, Council Member. Council

[30:45] member Ross.

[30:45] » Thank you, Council President. No

[30:46] announcement, but I do want to recognize

[30:48] some special guests that we have here in

[30:50] chambers this evening. We have members

[30:51] of the third Masonic district of the

[30:53] most worshipable Prince Hall Grand Lodge

[30:55] of Ohio under the leadership of Roderick

[30:58] Q Blount and Leonard Cousin. We also

[31:01] have the chair of community engagement,

[31:02] Mr. Daryl Cobb here with all the members

[31:05] of the third district may Hall stand up

[31:09] today. Thank you for joining us joining

[31:11] us here at council chambers. We hope

[31:13] that you learn something. We hope you

[31:14] have a little bit of fun and we

[31:16] encourage you to not stay the entire

[31:19] time. and we will be here for a long

[31:22] night, but we are certainly glad to have

[31:24] you. Thank you.

[31:26] » That's all for me, Council President.

[31:28] » Thank you. Thank Thank you, Council

[31:30] White.

[31:32] » Um well, well, thank you. Just my my

[31:35] quick announcement is that this is our

[31:36] second to last council meeting before

[31:37] our summer uh recess. So, there will be

[31:41] a lot of work happening this week

[31:42] between the administration and council

[31:45] member offices. Um uh we look forward to

[31:48] continue to work with the administration

[31:50] and and uh get towards uh that recess.

[31:53] Also, tomorrow night we have a community

[31:55] council meeting at 6 p.m. at the main

[31:57] library. We even though this is downtown

[32:00] centric or located, we of course invite

[32:03] anyone from around in any neighborhood

[32:05] to come and join us at that community

[32:08] meeting. Um and that's all I have. Are

[32:11] there any uh comments by our elected

[32:12] officials offices? Seeing none, uh, at

[32:16] this time I actually want to turn it

[32:17] over to press pro Tim.

[32:19] » Thank you, Council President. Um, at

[32:21] this time I request the following

[32:23] ordinance be removed from the consent

[32:24] action of the of the uh portion of our

[32:27] agenda. The public safety and criminal

[32:28] justice committee ordinance number

[32:30] 1841-2026.

[32:31] Are there any other uh requests by

[32:33] members of council for the remov

[32:34] ordinance or resolution from the consent

[32:37] agenda?

[32:38] Seeing none, may we have a motion to

[32:40] wave second reading of the titles of 38

[32:42] legislation by the city clerk.

[32:45] » Clerk, please call the role. Banks

[32:47] timber padia de a dor screen. Remy Ross,

[32:50] vice president Harden.

[32:52] » Thank you. Um, the following ordinances

[32:55] appear on agenda as consent action item.

[32:57] I'm sorry, consent actions. Will the

[32:59] clerk now read those ordinances numbers

[33:01] of each into the record?

[33:03] » First reading.

[33:03] » Yes.

[33:04] » Okay. Yes. Um, I'm sorry.

[33:08] In finance and governance committee we

[33:10] have ordinance 1618

[33:12] 1663 and 1850-2026

[33:16] economic development and small and

[33:17] minority business we have resolution

[33:19] 146x-2026

[33:22] ordinance 1173 1174

[33:25] 1304 1648 1651 1652 1694 1707 1761 1766

[33:34] 1815 1858 187 1870 1871 1872 1886-2026

[33:42] Public Service and Transportation

[33:44] Committee we have ordinances 1494 1623

[33:47] 1709 1711 and 1875-2026

[33:52] Neighborhoods Recreation and Parks

[33:53] Committee ordinance 1595 1749-2026

[33:59] Workforce Education and Labor Committee

[34:00] we have ordinance 1568-2026

[34:04] health human services and equity

[34:05] committee ordinance ordinances 1536 and

[34:08] 1633-2026.

[34:10] Public safety and criminal justice

[34:12] committee ordinances 1327 1675 7 and

[34:16] 1791-2026.

[34:19] Housing homelessness and building

[34:20] committee ordinances 1698 1713 1760 and

[34:25] 1904-2026.

[34:27] Public Utilities and Sustainability

[34:29] Committee Ordinances 12 uh 48 1323

[34:35] 1490 1521

[34:37] 1529 1539 1543

[34:41] 1551 1552 1554

[34:46] 1569 15678

[34:49] 1580 1581 1585 1598 1628 1657 1659 9,

[34:57] 1661,

[34:59] 1669, 1679, 1686,

[35:03] 1703, and 1887-2026.

[35:06] Rules and policy committee, we have

[35:08] ordinance 1882,

[35:11] and 2005-2026.

[35:14] In the zonings, we have resonings607

[35:18] and 1611,

[35:20] 1923, and 1927-2026.

[35:24] variances 1924, 1928, and 1929-2026.

[35:30] » Thank you, clerk. Moving on to the

[35:32] consent agenda. The following ordinances

[35:34] appear on our agenda as consent actions.

[35:36] Will the clerk now please please read

[35:38] the ordinance numbers of each into the

[35:39] record.

[35:41] » Resolution of expression, we have

[35:43] 147X-2026.

[35:46] Finance and governance committee. We

[35:48] have ordinances 1525,541

[35:52] 1547

[35:54] 1565 1571 1579646

[36:00] 1664 1678 1680 1688 1693 1699 1701 1718

[36:09] 1719 1743 1756 1757 1771 1799 1806 6

[36:18] 1823 1847 1860 187 and 1873-2026

[36:24] Economic Development and Small and

[36:26] Minority Business Committee Ordinance

[36:28] 1481

[36:30] 1574 1590 1649 1650 1783

[36:36] 1829 1832

[36:39] 1551 1552 1553

[36:42] 1885 and 1900-2026

[36:46] Public Service and Transportation

[36:47] Committee Ordinances 20 1221

[36:51] 1495 15496269

[36:55] 1619 1624

[36:57] 1647 1672

[37:00] 1682 1836 1843 1856 and 1876-2026

[37:08] Neighborhoods Recreation and Parks

[37:10] Committee Ordinances 140405

[37:13] 1409 1584 1632 2, 1665, 1723,

[37:19] 1762, 1842, and 1846-2026.

[37:24] Workforce Education and Labor Committee

[37:26] ordinances 1655

[37:29] and 1807-2026.

[37:31] Health Human Services and Equity

[37:33] Committee ordinances 1615 1627 1670 1687

[37:39] 1690 1710 7 um 1813 1896 and 1933-2026

[37:47] Public Safety and Criminal Justice

[37:48] Committee Ordinances 1431 1617 1620 1642

[37:54] 1683 1708 1720 1752 1834

[38:00] 183 39 and 1881-2026

[38:05] Housing Homelessness and Building

[38:07] Committee ordinances 1553 1745 1767

[38:12] 1802 1810 and 1819-2026

[38:17] Public Utilities and Sustainability

[38:19] Committee ordinances 1424 1575

[38:23] 1621 1622

[38:25] 1691 1726 1770 1824 1869-2026.

[38:33] In rules and policy, we have

[38:34] appointments A113, A114, A115, A116,

[38:40] A117, A118, A119, A120, A121, A122,

[38:46] A123, A124, A125, A126, A127, A128,

[38:52] A129, A130, and A31 131-2026.

[38:58] » Thank you, clerk. [laughter]

[39:00] uh

[39:02] earning your paycheck tonight. Uh may I

[39:04] have a motion for approval of these

[39:06] items designated as consent actions?

[39:09] » Clerk, please call the role by voice.

[39:11] » Bankston,

[39:12] » Yes.

[39:12] » Barosa de Padilla,

[39:14] » Yes.

[39:14] » Deakau,

[39:15] » Yes.

[39:16] » Dorren,

[39:17] » Yes.

[39:17] » Green,

[39:19] » Remy,

[39:19] » Yes.

[39:20] » Ross,

[39:21] » Yes.

[39:21] » White,

[39:22] » Yes.

[39:23] » Harden, [snorts]

[39:25] » Yes. the exception of 165.

[39:30] » Thank you. Um consent uh agenda items

[39:33] are passed with the noted uh abstensions

[39:37] » And I'll hand it back to you, council

[39:39] president.

[39:43] » Thank you. Uh Mr. Chair, the first

[39:45] committee to come before council is the

[39:48] Oh, actually we're going out of order uh

[39:50] this evening. We're going to start with

[39:51] the housing home assistant building

[39:52] committee. I'm going to turn it over to

[39:54] council member uh Ross.

[39:56] » Thank you, Council President Harden. We

[39:58] just have one piece of legislation on

[40:00] second read out of housing homelessness

[40:01] and building. It is ordinance number

[40:03] 1684-2026

[40:05] to authorize the city clerk to enter

[40:07] into a notfor-profit grant agreement

[40:08] with Enterprise Community Partners

[40:10] Incorporated for the missiondriven

[40:12] affordable housing initiative in an

[40:14] amount up to $148,000 to authorize the

[40:17] appropriation and expenditure in an

[40:19] amount up to $148,000 from the

[40:21] neighborhood initiative sub fund. This

[40:24] legislation complements Yes in God's

[40:26] Backyard, a piece of legislation

[40:27] previously passed by council to engage

[40:29] houses of worship, educational groups,

[40:31] and missional aligned nonprofit

[40:32] organizations who own or have access to

[40:35] underutilized land. Current piece will

[40:37] empower enterprise to work with emerging

[40:39] developers, minority developers, and

[40:41] faith institutions with educational,

[40:43] technical training, support, and tools

[40:45] to navigate the development process,

[40:47] assess the feasibility and desiraability

[40:49] of developing affordable housing and

[40:51] community facilities on that land, and

[40:53] support them through real estate

[40:54] development. And through that process,

[40:57] Enterprise will provide 20 hours of

[40:58] classroom instruction with subject

[41:00] matter experts covering various aspects

[41:01] of the development process, both virtual

[41:03] and in person. Sessions could include,

[41:06] but are limited to, real estate

[41:07] development 101, site studies, ordering

[41:10] phase one environmental study, gathering

[41:11] market data, having a feasibility study

[41:14] prepared, having a market demographic

[41:16] study prepared, having a traffic impact

[41:18] study prepared, project mission site

[41:20] development process, zoning, evaluation,

[41:22] acquisitions, projecting and planning

[41:24] process, selecting a development team,

[41:27] developing, concept design,

[41:28] pre-development, budgeting, and putting

[41:30] together project economics. Tools and

[41:33] resources Enterprise will provide are

[41:34] paramount to help assist with our need

[41:36] for affordable housing at every price

[41:38] point for Columbus residents. Certainly

[41:40] eager to work alongside Enterprise and

[41:43] Council President Harden to be creative

[41:44] and intentional as we combat our housing

[41:47] crisis and pass it over to you,

[41:49] President Harden, for further comment.

[41:50] » Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you

[41:51] for the partnership. Just want to as I

[41:53] start invite up Ayana Blue Donald from

[41:56] Enterprise Community Partners who's here

[41:58] to represent the organization this year

[42:00] and certainly like I said thank council

[42:01] member Ross for her partnership and

[42:03] leadership on this legislation. Last

[42:05] year council took an important step

[42:07] forward passing yes in God's Backyard or

[42:09] Yee legislation. We recognize that

[42:11] throughout Columbus uh there are

[42:13] churches, faith communities and

[42:15] missiondriven nonprofits that own land

[42:17] and want to be part of the solution to

[42:19] our housing crisis. We also recognize

[42:21] that too often the barriers standing in

[42:24] the way are not a lack of willingness or

[42:26] vision. It's a lack of capacity,

[42:28] technical expertise, and access to

[42:30] development process. Yigby helped remove

[42:33] one of those barriers by making it

[42:35] easier for houses of worship to pursue

[42:37] affordable housing development on their

[42:39] property. But changing zoning rules is

[42:41] only the first step. The real the

[42:43] reality is that developing housing is

[42:46] complicated. It requires understanding

[42:47] land use regulations, financing

[42:50] structures, environmental reviews,

[42:52] feasibility studies, design concepts, uh

[42:55] development teams, project budgets, and

[42:58] countless other pieces that can feel

[43:00] overwhelming to an organization whose

[43:02] primary mission is to serve its

[43:04] congregation. That's why this grant and

[43:07] program is important. Through this

[43:09] partnership with Enterprise, we are

[43:10] creating a pathway for faith-based

[43:12] organizations, educational institutions,

[43:15] and missiondriven nonprofits to move

[43:17] from simply having an idea to

[43:20] understanding how that idea can come can

[43:22] become a real housing project.

[43:25] Enterprise brings a proven track record

[43:27] to this work through its faith-based

[43:28] development initiative. It has supported

[43:30] the creation of thousands of affordable

[43:32] homes across the country and helped

[43:33] establish a pipeline of more. Uh through

[43:37] training, technical assistance, and

[43:39] expert guidance, participants will learn

[43:41] how to evaluate their sites, understand

[43:43] development uh uh fundamentals, build

[43:46] project teams, assess financial pos uh

[43:48] feasibility, and determine whether

[43:51] affordable housing is the right fit for

[43:52] their mission and their property. Uh and

[43:55] that matters because we know there is no

[43:58] single solution to housing that uh that

[44:01] the housing shortage that the city is

[44:03] facing across Columbus. There are faith

[44:05] institutions and nonprofit organizations

[44:07] that have served their community for

[44:09] generations. Many are trusted anchors in

[44:12] neighborhoods. Many possess land that is

[44:13] underutilized and many have a deep

[44:15] commitment to serving people uh beyond

[44:18] their walls. Um this legislation is

[44:20] about building that pipeline. It's about

[44:22] ensuring that organizations with a

[44:24] desire to serve their communities are

[44:27] not left on the sidelines because of

[44:28] development process. It's about making

[44:31] smart use of land, expanding housing

[44:33] affordability, and empowering local

[44:35] institutions to partner to address one

[44:38] of our city's largest issues. So, I want

[44:40] to thank Enterprise uh for the work that

[44:43] you have done even before us. uh the

[44:46] there was a pilot that you had on the

[44:47] near east side that that showed real

[44:50] results and uh so it's been an honor

[44:52] after we passed our Yigby legislation

[44:54] that we can come up beside you support

[44:56] you in this work. Uh I'm hearing that

[44:58] every day you're leveraging our city

[45:00] dollars to bring in corporate dollars to

[45:02] also support this. So thank you so much.

[45:04] I'm going to turn it over to Ayana.

[45:06] » Thank you so much. Good evening. Uh,

[45:09] Council President Harden and

[45:11] Councilwoman Ross, thank you so much

[45:13] because you took a lot of words right

[45:14] out of my mouth. Um, and to the members

[45:17] of city council, thank you for the

[45:19] opportunity to testify today in support

[45:21] of ordinance 1684-2026.

[45:24] Again, I am Ayana Blue and I serve as

[45:27] vice president of the Midwest region at

[45:29] Enterprise Community Partners. At

[45:31] Enterprise, we do strive to make sure

[45:34] more families have a safe, affordable

[45:35] place to call home.

[45:37] Columbus is facing the same challenge

[45:39] many communities across the country are

[45:41] facing. Housing costs are rising faster

[45:44] than many families can keep up and the

[45:46] supply of affordable homes is still far

[45:48] too limited. City council has already

[45:51] shown important leadership by creating

[45:54] the gig framework to help unlock

[45:56] landowned by missiondriven institutions

[45:58] for affordable housing. This ordinance

[46:00] is an important next step in turning

[46:03] that vision into something real. Many

[46:06] faith-based organizations, educational

[46:08] institutions, and nonprofits care deeply

[46:11] about housing stability in their

[46:12] neighborhoods. Some have land or

[46:15] property that could be part of this

[46:17] solution. But even when the mission is

[46:20] strong, affordable housing development

[46:22] can be complicated. Organizations often

[46:24] need support to understand the process,

[46:27] determine what is feasible, and figure

[46:29] out how to move a project forward. This

[46:32] is what the missiondriven affordable

[46:34] housing initiative is designed to do.

[46:37] Through training, technical assistance,

[46:39] and early stage project support, it will

[46:41] help local organizations understand the

[46:43] development process, evaluate

[46:45] opportunities on their sites, and move

[46:48] promising ideas closer to

[46:50] implementation.

[46:52] Enterprise brings deep experience to

[46:54] this work. We have supported faith-based

[46:56] affordable housing efforts in

[46:58] communities across the country as

[47:00] referenced by Council President Harton

[47:01] right here in Columbus on the near east

[47:03] side. And we have seen what is possible

[47:06] when missional aligned institutions have

[47:07] the right tools, guidance, and partners.

[47:10] In fact, this year we are celebrating 20

[47:12] years of enterprises faith-based

[47:14] development initiative work that began

[47:16] in 2006 and continues to grow across the

[47:19] country. Here in Columbus, this

[47:22] initiative can help build a pipeline of

[47:24] local projects by supporting

[47:26] organizations at different stages of

[47:27] readiness. Some just beginning to

[47:29] explore a vision and others ready to

[47:31] move a concept closer to funding and

[47:34] development. Over time, what that really

[47:37] means is more valuable, excuse me,

[47:39] viable projects, stronger partnerships,

[47:42] and more affordable homes for Columbus

[47:44] residents.

[47:46] This is a smart and strategic public

[47:48] investment. It does not just support one

[47:51] project, but it helps build the

[47:53] capacity, knowledge, and local

[47:55] infrastructure needed to create more

[47:57] affordable housing opportunities over

[47:59] time. It aligns with the city's broader

[48:02] housing goals, strengthens the impact of

[48:04] the IGBY legislation, and helps ensure

[48:07] that community serving institutions can

[48:09] play a meaningful role in addressing the

[48:11] local housing needs.

[48:13] We are also very encouraged by how much

[48:16] community interest there has been and

[48:18] specifically early interest from PNC

[48:21] Bank to support this work. We are in

[48:23] active discussions with several private

[48:25] sector partners about how their support

[48:27] can strengthen this effort as it

[48:28] continues to move forward. For all of

[48:31] those reasons and more, we are excited

[48:33] to partner with the city of Columbus in

[48:35] this effort. Thank you so much for your

[48:38] leadership in housing and for

[48:41] considering this very very important

[48:43] investment in missiondriven affordable

[48:45] housing. I appreciate your time and

[48:47] consideration.

[48:50] » Thank you. Are there any comments or

[48:51] questions from my colleagues?

[48:54] Seeing none, I move for passage. Second

[48:57] Bank

[48:59] Aaron Green Remy Ross Vice President

[49:01] Harden.

[49:03] » Thank you.

[49:07] The next committee to come before

[49:08] council is the finance and governance

[49:10] committee. That committee is chaired by

[49:11] council member Banks. Councilman, the

[49:12] floor is yours.

[49:13] » Uh thank you, council president. I know

[49:15] we were sidebar. I'm going to go out of

[49:17] order with your permission. Uh we do

[49:19] have some stakeholders in the audience

[49:20] and there's two pieces of legislation

[49:22] that we want to think get through before

[49:24] break. So with your permission, I'll

[49:25] first go to the rules and policy

[49:28] committee. Thank you and council

[49:30] president. And we're on page 43 of the

[49:32] agenda uh uh to read an ordinance in the

[49:35] rules and policy committee uh ordinance

[49:37] 1953-2026

[49:39] to amend section 371.02

[49:42] of Columbus city codes to shift the

[49:44] affordable housing trust hotel motel and

[49:46] short-term rental excise tax

[49:48] distribution to experience Columbus and

[49:50] to declare an emergency. This

[49:51] legislation amends section 371.02 02 of

[49:54] the Columbus City codes to shift the

[49:56] affordable housing trust motel motel

[49:59] motel and short-term rental excise tax

[50:01] distribution to Experience Columbus.

[50:03] Experience Columbus has expressed

[50:05] concerns regarding their operating uh

[50:07] budget capacity uh to continue

[50:09] adequately driving the regional travel

[50:11] and tourism economy for Columbus. And I

[50:14] can say firsthand as a board member,

[50:16] this has been something that's been

[50:17] going on uh year uh over year, but we

[50:19] continue to punch above our weight. The

[50:22] city uh intends to shift the current

[50:24] affordable housing trust bed tax

[50:26] distribution to experience Columbus for

[50:28] the purpose of providing increased

[50:29] revenue for the advancement of the

[50:31] cultural development of the community

[50:34] and for promotion and publicizing of the

[50:36] city. This adjustment reflects that

[50:38] Experience Columbus plays a central role

[50:40] in positioning Columbus as an economic

[50:42] powerhouse in the region, leading to the

[50:45] continued growth of local jobs,

[50:47] generating substantial visitor spending,

[50:50] and contributing significantly to the

[50:51] regional tax base. Increasing the share

[50:54] of the bed tax revenue allocated to

[50:56] experience Columbus will better position

[50:58] an organization to compete with

[50:59] destination marketing efforts in peer

[51:01] metropolis areas uh where allocations of

[51:04] tourism promotion and visitor attraction

[51:07] are typically much higher than in

[51:09] Columbus. Uh and in fact in our

[51:11] competitive set uh as a city we actually

[51:14] rank dead last in our funding of our

[51:16] tourism sector. And just think about

[51:19] that. But yet we continue to get major

[51:21] conferences like ASAE and PCMA uh and

[51:25] the AM church conference showing that

[51:28] we're punching above our weight. But yet

[51:30] still uh we need to continue to fund

[51:32] this uh this uh sector because it is

[51:35] driving so much of uh our economy. In

[51:38] return, the city will enter into a

[51:40] separate contribution agreement with the

[51:42] affordable housing trust that contains a

[51:44] 5-year funding commitment totaling $12.5

[51:47] million. While the city searches for new

[51:50] funding streams to replace the

[51:51] affordable housing trust bed tax

[51:53] distribution long term, uh the source of

[51:56] interim funding will be the city's

[51:57] affordable housing bond dollars, which

[51:59] is in alignment with the city's stated

[52:01] affordable housing strategies. Uh this

[52:03] will uh this arrangement will provide

[52:05] the affordable housing trust with an

[52:06] actual higher more consistent funding

[52:09] level to support their expansion and

[52:11] housing efforts. Additionally, uh there

[52:14] will be increased uh revenue given to

[52:16] the affordable housing trust for

[52:17] operational costs via a contribution

[52:20] agreement between Experience Columbus

[52:22] totaling $250,000

[52:24] additional dollars. Both the Affordable

[52:26] Housing Trust and Experience Columbus

[52:28] support this change and I want to

[52:29] personally thank Brian Ross and his

[52:31] leadership as well as Ian Lavitu, our

[52:33] leader at the affordable housing trust

[52:34] for coming together to work

[52:35] collaboratively to come up with a

[52:37] solution for both organizations. An

[52:39] emergency designation is requested since

[52:41] additional delay in this change greatly

[52:44] complicates the execution of an external

[52:46] agreement between the affordable housing

[52:48] trust and experience Columbus as a

[52:50] result of the monthly distribution

[52:52] schedule of the bed tax proceeds. Are

[52:54] there any questions or comments from my

[52:55] colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

[52:57] passage.

[52:58] » Please call the role.

[52:59] » Thanks. Timber Rosa Deodia de a dorren

[53:02] Green Remy Ross. Vice President Harden

[53:04] » Passed.

[53:04] » Thank you council president. And still

[53:06] going out of order. Um, could I please

[53:08] move to the Economic Development and

[53:10] Small Minority Business Committee,

[53:12] » Please?

[53:12] » Thank you. Next we have uh ordinance

[53:15] 1508-20

[53:17] uh26 to authorize the director of

[53:19] department of development to enter into

[53:21] the first uh amend and re restated

[53:25] Norwich Township compensation agreement

[53:27] with Norwich Township regarding

[53:29] administrative changes to that agreement

[53:31] due to the repeal of the sugar farms 40

[53:35] BIFF and the expansion of the sugar

[53:37] farms incentive district by ordinance

[53:39] number 2451-2025

[53:42] to appropriate and authorize the

[53:44] expenditure of service payments in lie

[53:46] of taxes generated by the parcels in

[53:48] Sugar Farm incentive district and Reiner

[53:51] South incentive district that are to be

[53:54] deposited in the Sugar Farms Incentive

[53:57] District 40C TIFF fund and the Reer

[54:00] South Incentive District 40C TIFF fund

[54:03] in accordance with the first amended and

[54:06] restated Norwich Township Compensation

[54:08] Agreement. This ordinance is an

[54:10] administrative companion to ordinance

[54:12] 2451-2025,

[54:14] which council approved on December 18th,

[54:17] 2025. Ordinance 2451-2025

[54:21] dissolved one of two tiffs over the

[54:24] sugar farm development and consolidated

[54:26] all related parcels into the remaining

[54:28] TIFF. Ordinance 1508-2026

[54:32] updates the existing compensation

[54:33] agreement so that it references the

[54:36] remaining TIFF, not the one that was

[54:38] dissolved. Uh, Director Stevens, I'm

[54:40] going to turn it over to you just to

[54:41] talk about this ordinance a little bit.

[54:44] do know that we have uh some of our

[54:46] friends here from fire and there's I

[54:48] think a broader discussion about the

[54:49] city's growth. But could you just talk

[54:51] about this particular ordinance, what it

[54:53] does and and what it doesn't do and then

[54:54] I think we'll be able to have a broader

[54:56] conversation uh with my colleagues and

[54:58] also uh our um firefighters who are here

[55:01] with us.

[55:02] » Thank you. Uh good evening, President

[55:04] Harden, members of council. Um what this

[55:07] ordinance does is it modifies our

[55:09] compensation agreement of Norwich

[55:11] Township. Back in the 2000s, um the city

[55:16] passed a big derby revenue funding or

[55:20] funding plan. And in that plan, we

[55:23] committed to hold Norwich Township

[55:25] harmless on any tiffs we put in place to

[55:28] do pay as we grow type of development.

[55:32] Um

[55:34] I I equate it to when we do a non-school

[55:38] tiff, we make the schools whole. This is

[55:41] really a um tiff. This this is making

[55:45] the Norwich Township fire levy whole per

[55:49] that agreement. So what this is is a um

[55:54] commitment of the tiff dollars that are

[55:56] being generated. what it is not. It is

[55:58] not a provision of any type of mutual

[56:01] aid between the city and Norwich

[56:03] Township. I'd be happy to answer any

[56:06] questions.

[56:07] » Thank you uh for that, director. And I'm

[56:09] sure there will be uh questions. We do

[56:11] have uh two speakers on this council

[56:13] president. So, I'm going to call those

[56:14] speakers up and then I think if my

[56:15] colleagues have any questions uh or

[56:18] comments, we'll uh defer there because I

[56:20] believe maybe some of the uh questions

[56:22] may be addressed by our two speakers.

[56:24] So, with that, first I'm going to call

[56:25] Mark Maddox. uh with our local 67

[56:28] firefighters union.

[56:34] Mark, welcome to council. Yes, sir.

[56:37] Welcome to council. Uh you have three

[56:39] minutes. Um and the floor is yours.

[56:42] » All right. Uh first of all, I'd like to

[56:44] thank council for hearing me. Also like

[56:45] to thank President Harden for being here

[56:47] and safety director Remy. Um, I'd like

[56:51] to first of all, I'd like to thank City

[56:52] of Columbus for uh giving a Westside kid

[56:55] a job 29 years ago. So, appreciate it.

[56:58] 25 years on the west side. I'm here in

[57:00] opposition for the second phase of Sher

[57:02] Farms ordinance.

[57:04] This is not how we grow. When I got

[57:06] hired in 1997, we had 690,000 people.

[57:10] Now, we got 940,000 people. We built

[57:14] three stations for growth since that

[57:16] time. one of them last week.

[57:20] Just the way simple put it is the city

[57:21] of Toledo's got 260,000 people and they

[57:24] got 15 fire stations. Okay. The west

[57:27] side the west side of Columbus hadn't

[57:29] had a new station for gross since 1975.

[57:32] Station 7 26.

[57:35] There's no uh new rec centers, no sleep

[57:39] substations, nothing on the west side,

[57:40] that far west side. The city of Columbus

[57:43] 20 years ago gave a five-year plan. They

[57:46] wanted to build a station at Alton 7,000

[57:49] numbers west street that would remy this

[57:52] problem right now. This problem right

[57:55] now we represent the city of Columbus.

[57:57] We are local 6700 strong.

[58:01] We

[58:02] should not have another municipality

[58:04] running the city of Columbus taking our

[58:06] runs. We take 180,000 runs a year. 20%

[58:10] of them are taken by other

[58:11] municipalities.

[58:12] different SOPs, different radio

[58:15] channels, just the way we do things

[58:17] different. It's a safety issue for us.

[58:22] Local 67 met with the Great Westside

[58:24] Commission. We talked about this issue.

[58:27] They they informed us that they were

[58:29] against this. The first time it went

[58:30] around, they informed us they are still

[58:33] against this. So, your own commission's

[58:35] against it. Your local city 1700 member

[58:38] fire department's against it. Basically

[58:40] the gist of it is we're giving our work

[58:43] to another another entity.

[58:50] Do my do I'm asking council now do not

[58:52] make this the model that 20% is going to

[58:55] grow. If you make this the model what's

[58:57] next Hamilton Madison and then you got

[59:00] to be Franklin Township had three

[59:03] stations in 1975 they got one. We're

[59:06] short three station from the west side

[59:08] according to your matrix report. I just

[59:11] put it simple as this. We do a six and a

[59:13] half month academy. We sit there and

[59:16] look at the mission statement, our value

[59:17] statement every single day. When you get

[59:19] promoted on this fire department, you

[59:21] got to memorize the mission statement

[59:23] and value statement. I don't think a

[59:26] township with 2100 residents with three

[59:28] trustees and a financial director has

[59:31] the best interest from them 1100

[59:32] members. They get city trash. They get

[59:35] city police, city water, and now we made

[59:37] a model for them to take the fire

[59:40] department. All due respect, this

[59:42] council voted no for a labor dispute

[59:45] over one fire truck for 61 people. We

[59:47] got 1,700 against it. Thank you.

[59:52] » Thank you, uh, Mr. Maddox. Next, we have

[59:56] John, uh, Guri, who is here with us with

[59:58] Local 67 Firefighters Union as well.

[1:00:04] » [clears throat]

[1:00:05] » John, good to see you again. Welcome,

[1:00:06] council.

[1:00:07] » Thank you,

[1:00:11] Council President Harden, members of

[1:00:14] council. Uh my name is John Guro,

[1:00:16] secretary treasure, Columbus

[1:00:18] Firefighters, Local 67. I come before

[1:00:20] you uh this evening disapp both uh

[1:00:24] disappointed uh and grateful. I'm

[1:00:27] disappointed that this is uh even being

[1:00:29] considered by council. Uh, but I'm

[1:00:32] grateful to the residents of Hillyard uh

[1:00:34] in Norwich Township for passing a fire

[1:00:37] levy to staff the fire station that was

[1:00:40] built last year uh in Norwich Township

[1:00:43] funded by the city of Columbus by which

[1:00:45] this council was a party to

[1:00:48] without the residents of Hillyard and

[1:00:50] Norwich agreeing to raise their property

[1:00:52] taxes to staff this firehouse.

[1:00:56] the firehouse that was built funding

[1:00:59] which the city of Columbus and this

[1:01:01] council agreed

[1:01:04] the Columbus neighborhood sugar farms

[1:01:06] would be without adequate fire and EMS

[1:01:08] coverage.

[1:01:10] To be clear, this legislation

[1:01:13] we consider as adversarial to the

[1:01:15] Columbus Firefighters Union by by

[1:01:18] furthering the city boundaries for

[1:01:20] needed development,

[1:01:23] but contracting out public safety

[1:01:25] services to do to serve those new areas

[1:01:29] of the city should be considered

[1:01:30] reckless.

[1:01:33] I know there is not a member on council

[1:01:36] here tonight that would agree to subbing

[1:01:39] out

[1:01:40] policing to any area of the city

[1:01:44] to where crime data was not trackable.

[1:01:46] However,

[1:01:48] that is exactly what takes place when

[1:01:50] the city of Columbus continues to

[1:01:52] overrely on other agencies for basic

[1:01:54] fire and EMS services. There's no way to

[1:01:58] track cardiac survivor rates, basic

[1:02:01] lifesaving interventions, and to ensure

[1:02:04] that these areas of Columbus are

[1:02:07] receiving the highest care through the

[1:02:09] protocols of the Columbus Division of

[1:02:11] Fire. Every day in the city, uh, every

[1:02:13] day,

[1:02:16] city code ordinance 312423,

[1:02:20] so that's 3124.23

[1:02:22] is violated. And then I read it in part

[1:02:25] that fire fire response in all areas of

[1:02:29] the city uh be greater no greater than

[1:02:31] four minutes. Uh emergency medical

[1:02:33] services in all in all parts of the city

[1:02:36] uh be no greater than six minutes.

[1:02:41] It goes on and I in part that that

[1:02:44] services provided by other agencies

[1:02:47] shall be provided by permanently

[1:02:49] assigned full-time crews with staffing

[1:02:51] levels and training comparable to the

[1:02:54] city to the crews of in Columbus. Uh

[1:02:56] that's not happening. Thank you. Every

[1:02:59] neighborhood

[1:03:01] in the expanding city of Columbus should

[1:03:04] never should I'm sorry should experience

[1:03:07] the best of safety services.

[1:03:10] I believe that that's achieved by

[1:03:13] counting on the men and women of the

[1:03:14] Columbus Division of Fire rather than ex

[1:03:17] rather than expanding neighborhoods

[1:03:21] that are serviced by contracting out

[1:03:25] um fire and EMS as mentioned. Uh I find

[1:03:29] this uh to be adversarial and I

[1:03:31] respectfully ask for a negative vote.

[1:03:34] Thank you.

[1:03:36] » Uh thank you uh John and again thank you

[1:03:38] to our firefighters. Any questions for

[1:03:41] our speakers at this time? All right.

[1:03:43] Cena, I think we'll have some discussion

[1:03:45] here with the department as well. Um

[1:03:48] again, I do want to probably point to

[1:03:51] safety. I'll open it up for my

[1:03:52] colleagues here. Uh but director Stevens

[1:03:55] just want to to make clear this

[1:03:57] particular ordinance is simply around

[1:04:00] tiffs. It doesn't change anything around

[1:04:03] mutual aid or uh any of that. Uh and

[1:04:06] then again I do want to go to the

[1:04:08] department of safety to really talk more

[1:04:09] about I think uh as we continue to grow

[1:04:13] uh particularly maybe you could be more

[1:04:15] specific on around the west side what

[1:04:17] our plans are there and mutual aid and

[1:04:19] then um have my colleagues ask any

[1:04:22] questions they may have. Director

[1:04:23] Stevenson.

[1:04:25] » Thank you, Chair Bankston.

[1:04:27] This ordinance does not have any impact

[1:04:31] or effect on mutual aid. There is no

[1:04:33] agreement.

[1:04:35] This agreement that we're amending does

[1:04:38] not

[1:04:39] uh have any provision for delivering of

[1:04:44] safety services through this. These are

[1:04:48] property tax dollars that due to the

[1:04:51] tiff are exempted that if it was the

[1:04:54] tiff was not in place, Norwich Township

[1:04:56] would be receiving these dollars um

[1:05:00] without the tiff.

[1:05:02] » Got it. And so just again for a layman's

[1:05:05] term standpoint, this there was a new

[1:05:07] tiff created as it expanded. Uh we we

[1:05:11] dissolve the old tiff and we're just

[1:05:12] shifting everything so that just under

[1:05:14] it's clean and it's under one tiff. uh

[1:05:17] agreement. Correct.

[1:05:18] » That's correct.

[1:05:19] » Gotcha. But I do think uh to our

[1:05:22] firefighters uh point uh this is a a

[1:05:25] point for us to have a discussion around

[1:05:27] growth uh and and what we do to address

[1:05:30] uh service coverage. Uh so I'm looking

[1:05:32] at our department uh of safety. Can you

[1:05:35] speak to uh some of our growth strategy

[1:05:38] particularly on the west side uh and

[1:05:40] also kind of the administration's

[1:05:43] thoughts around mutual aid and

[1:05:47] and your just philosophy there?

[1:05:50] » Thank you, President Harden, Chair

[1:05:51] Bankston. Um I appreciate the question.

[1:05:54] As it pertains to mutual aid in general,

[1:05:56] our our the overall objective of mutual

[1:05:59] aid is to get the closest most

[1:06:00] appropriate resource to the individual

[1:06:03] when seconds and minutes counts

[1:06:04] regardless of jurisdictions. Uh most of

[1:06:07] the jurisdictions or some of the

[1:06:08] jurisdictions here in central Ohio also

[1:06:10] practice that as well as throughout the

[1:06:12] country to ensure that the re the

[1:06:13] adequate resources get to the patients

[1:06:15] the quickest and the individuals

[1:06:17] regardless of the circumstance. That's

[1:06:19] the same on the west side as it is

[1:06:22] throughout the city of Columbus. Um, and

[1:06:25] as it pertains to your the first part of

[1:06:27] your question, what are the plans for

[1:06:28] the west side in particular? Uh, last

[1:06:31] month we added a far westside station to

[1:06:34] our capital improvement plan to address

[1:06:36] the growth on that side. So, pending

[1:06:38] funding opportunities. Um, our goal is

[1:06:41] to expand on that side, the same as we

[1:06:43] have with station 35 and station 36 in

[1:06:47] the northeast.

[1:06:49] » Thank you for that. I'm going to open

[1:06:50] the floor up to my colleagues for any

[1:06:52] questions. President Pro Tim Doran.

[1:06:54] » Thank you, Chair. So to that point about

[1:06:56] the mutual aid agreements themselves, so

[1:06:59] Bahiri about how those standards get set

[1:07:01] up on the front end, but something I've

[1:07:03] heard from folks from the IFFF over the

[1:07:05] years is just, you know, it's one thing

[1:07:07] to have those things um those agreements

[1:07:09] in place, it's another thing to make

[1:07:10] sure that folks are consistently

[1:07:11] following them. So when they say um hey

[1:07:14] you know they're not responding with the

[1:07:15] same type of staffing levels that we

[1:07:18] think is appropriate that we hold

[1:07:19] ourselves to what is the department do

[1:07:21] to sort of monitor those things to make

[1:07:22] sure that you know these mutual aid

[1:07:24] agreements are not just you know in

[1:07:25] writing that an actual day-to-day that

[1:07:28] the residents that are being served by

[1:07:29] them are getting the same level of

[1:07:31] service between whether or not they have

[1:07:33] a you know EMS unit that's got CFD on it

[1:07:35] versus you know some other you know fire

[1:07:37] department or fire division.

[1:07:40] » Thank you council member Dorne. If I

[1:07:42] could, uh, interim chief Dave Ball is

[1:07:44] here. Um, that may be a question that's

[1:07:47] more appropriate for the day-to-day

[1:07:48] operations and that I think he could

[1:07:50] answer. You could come up.

[1:08:12] Good evening. Thank you for the

[1:08:13] opportunity to uh answer that question.

[1:08:15] Um

[1:08:17] when uh when we have uh mutual aid or

[1:08:20] automatic aid agreements with 23

[1:08:23] township partners in the central Ohio

[1:08:25] area and we meet regularly with the

[1:08:29] Frank County Fire Chiefs Association

[1:08:32] where one of our members um actively

[1:08:35] participates in those regular meetings

[1:08:39] and one of the subcommittees of that um

[1:08:43] greater organization is a best practices

[1:08:45] committee to make sure that we're

[1:08:48] operating under the same standards. And

[1:08:51] for for brevity, Columbus drives the bus

[1:08:54] on that. So, our SOPs and our procedures

[1:08:58] drive the expectations of our township

[1:09:00] response partners and we do our best to

[1:09:03] make sure that we are working together

[1:09:06] to address those concerns. Um and

[1:09:08] actively as we speak, we are planning

[1:09:11] and preparing for a joint training

[1:09:14] session with Norwich Township and

[1:09:16] Columbus Fire um for training fire

[1:09:20] ground operations on the far west side.

[1:09:24] » Did you have any other questions for

[1:09:25] operations for me?

[1:09:28] » President, do you have a followup or

[1:09:31] » Yeah. So I I guess like to that point.

[1:09:32] you're talking about from an

[1:09:34] administrative standpoint, there's a

[1:09:35] sort of an ongoing sort of regular

[1:09:37] check-in. Um, does that focus on again

[1:09:40] that day-to-day like staffing level? So,

[1:09:42] is that the kind of information that's

[1:09:43] shared at those meetings down to that

[1:09:44] granular level of how many runs, who was

[1:09:47] staffing those runs, what was the

[1:09:48] outcomes? Because again, I know one of

[1:09:50] the points of pride for our fire

[1:09:52] division is that uh we're able to track

[1:09:53] all that information and being able to

[1:09:55] really identify, you know, really the

[1:09:58] exemplary job that our firefighters do

[1:09:59] on a regular basis and where where the

[1:10:01] areas for improvement. I'm just curious,

[1:10:03] are we getting that level of of detail

[1:10:05] and information back from those folks

[1:10:06] that are performing, you know, those

[1:10:08] services under a mutual aid agreement?

[1:10:10] probably not on every run, but you know

[1:10:13] on major runs that have a large impact,

[1:10:15] we do have that dialogue between their

[1:10:18] administrative staff and our

[1:10:21] administrative staff.

[1:10:22] » Is there anything that's preventing us

[1:10:24] from getting that level of information

[1:10:25] on a regular basis or is it just not

[1:10:27] what we currently do?

[1:10:29] » It it would depend on the

[1:10:32] complexity of the incident. Um, it's

[1:10:35] something that I can look into and

[1:10:37] report back later, but right now I think

[1:10:40] those just the complex runs are the ones

[1:10:42] that are scrutinized and um reviewed

[1:10:47] after an incident.

[1:10:49] » Thank you, Chair. May I ask a question

[1:10:52] of Director Stevens?

[1:10:53] » Yeah, absolutely.

[1:10:54] » Great. D Stevens, just uh try to make

[1:10:56] this as plain as possible because when

[1:10:57] we start getting into 403bs and tiffs

[1:11:00] and all these kinds of things. So, um to

[1:11:03] to make it very very plain what

[1:11:04] essentially um and again I not I don't

[1:11:07] want to put the words in anyone's mouth

[1:11:08] of other folks that testified here

[1:11:10] tonight, but essentially the legislation

[1:11:12] here carves out those fire levy dollars

[1:11:15] for this township. Right? So,

[1:11:17] essentially this legislation prevents

[1:11:19] those fire levy dollars from going into

[1:11:21] the tiff which then can be used for

[1:11:23] other types of reimburseable purposes

[1:11:25] such as you know roads um you utility

[1:11:28] improvements those kind of things. And I

[1:11:30] think if if I'm interpreting the

[1:11:32] comments from our folks from IFF

[1:11:33] correctly is that by allowing us to

[1:11:37] enter these agreements and carving out

[1:11:38] those dollars, we're essentially

[1:11:39] incentivizing more and more mutual aid

[1:11:42] through that type of carve out.

[1:11:45] So don't comment at the second part. I'm

[1:11:47] just want to make sure that um you're

[1:11:49] responding to just very plainly like

[1:11:51] what council is essentially considering

[1:11:53] here.

[1:11:56] uh you are considering the amendment to

[1:11:58] the compensation agreement that uh

[1:12:02] changes the level of tiff. So before it

[1:12:04] had a commercial component now it's all

[1:12:06] housing. When it goes to all housing we

[1:12:08] have um policy in place where we are

[1:12:11] making sure that the fire levy at

[1:12:14] Norwich Township is is being made whole

[1:12:16] essentially. So no city dollars are

[1:12:20] being contributed to Norwich Township.

[1:12:22] Norwich Township is just receiving the

[1:12:24] dollars that they would have received

[1:12:26] without the TIFF. Uh this is the

[1:12:28] property tax levy that is that is in

[1:12:31] place and how they are what I'd say made

[1:12:34] whole. Um

[1:12:36] it's not a

[1:12:39] um at this point those when this

[1:12:42] property is annexed and and for the case

[1:12:44] of Sugar Farm, those are Columbus

[1:12:46] residents and when they call 911 they

[1:12:48] are get the same safety service response

[1:12:50] as all Columbus residents get.

[1:12:53] » And again the the reason this is

[1:12:54] necessary is because again prior to the

[1:12:56] annexation this was in Norse Township.

[1:12:58] So that property tax would have flowed

[1:13:00] to um that fire levy. They're annexed

[1:13:03] in. So therefore they by by virtue of

[1:13:06] that annexation this no longer Norwich

[1:13:08] property. So therefore those dollars

[1:13:11] would not flow to that fire levy absent

[1:13:13] this piece of legislation. Correct.

[1:13:15] » Um

[1:13:17] just just put a fine point on it. After

[1:13:19] the annexation they are still within

[1:13:22] Norwich Township. So those levy dollars

[1:13:24] would still be received by Norwich

[1:13:26] Township after annexation. It's the tax

[1:13:29] increment financing that exempts those

[1:13:32] levy dollars to the tiff fund that is

[1:13:35] then going back to the township.

[1:13:37] » Thank you. I I think that the the issue

[1:13:40] with this or the qu the the the problem

[1:13:42] is we're having one real conversation

[1:13:44] here about reality around how we do

[1:13:45] these tiff agreements, but we're having

[1:13:47] a much larger 30,000 foot conversation

[1:13:50] around what the city believes, what are

[1:13:52] our values as it pertains to mutual aid.

[1:13:55] And I and so I can see how that is

[1:13:57] getting completed is the fact that um

[1:13:59] related to this or not, North built a

[1:14:03] fire station right on the other side of

[1:14:05] the city limit and now you know general

[1:14:07] 20% of our uh calls are for mutual aid

[1:14:11] and so this is just kind of a question

[1:14:13] for I guess public safety. Under our

[1:14:16] strategy right now is 20% of our calls

[1:14:18] being answered by other fire

[1:14:19] departments. Is that too many?

[1:14:24] President Harden, we've had a hard

[1:14:27] conversation within public safety about

[1:14:29] how to reduce that number. Some things

[1:14:31] can be policy driven or procedure driven

[1:14:33] on how dispatching goes. The other part

[1:14:35] of that is expansion. So, station 35,

[1:14:37] station 36 and all future stations near

[1:14:41] um annexed areas or within annexed areas

[1:14:43] will reduce that number. But at the end

[1:14:46] of the day, I don't think we can and I

[1:14:48] wouldn't advocate to put a specific

[1:14:50] number on the amount of mutual aid

[1:14:52] because we just don't know what'll

[1:14:54] happen. Um, and to be precise about it,

[1:14:57] station 83, which is Norwich Township,

[1:14:59] station 83 is directly across from the

[1:15:02] Hayden Run neighborhood area. So if an

[1:15:05] individual over there has an emergency

[1:15:07] that requires seconds or minutes to

[1:15:09] resolve, um I don't think that our

[1:15:12] policy would best serve the residents of

[1:15:14] Columbus if we made them wait any

[1:15:16] appreciable time. So our goal is and

[1:15:20] will be to ensure that the closest most

[1:15:22] appropriate unit to mitigate that

[1:15:24] emergency can respond. Now the one great

[1:15:27] thing that we have within the division

[1:15:28] of fire is the ability to look at our

[1:15:30] data and analyze it. So maybe certain

[1:15:33] emergencies don't need a 4 minute and 30

[1:15:36] second response time. It can wait for 5

[1:15:38] minutes and 15 seconds. So that's the

[1:15:41] ongoing conversation is how best to

[1:15:43] deploy the resources moving forward now

[1:15:46] that we have greater insight with our

[1:15:48] data. And I think that part of the issue

[1:15:50] also is that we're having these

[1:15:51] conversations in silos because we don't

[1:15:54] know what our five-year or 10-year plan

[1:15:56] is for when we're going to build the

[1:15:58] next fire station and how and and where.

[1:16:02] It allows for these conversations to

[1:16:04] look like that Norwich fire station was

[1:16:06] built to serve that that community. uh

[1:16:10] sugar farms like do we know what

[1:16:12] percentage of calls will from this

[1:16:14] Norwich Township uh fire station will

[1:16:18] serve sugar farms?

[1:16:21] » I I don't think I can predict that, but

[1:16:24] I can say that there's been about 360

[1:16:27] mutual aid calls responded by Norwich

[1:16:30] Township into the city of Columbus so

[1:16:32] far this year. And overall over the last

[1:16:34] three years, it's been between 6 and

[1:16:36] 700. Um I don't know the exact amount

[1:16:40] into the sugar farms area. Um and I

[1:16:43] don't believe that I could accurately

[1:16:44] predict what that could be into the

[1:16:46] future.

[1:16:47] » Yeah. I mean because that again that

[1:16:49] that that's the the challenge here is

[1:16:51] that no one I don't think anyone on this

[1:16:53] dis I I'm not even sure anyone in any

[1:16:56] union or anywhere else would say that if

[1:16:58] someone is in need someone across the

[1:17:00] street shouldn't come over and help. The

[1:17:02] question is, are we creating a a ethos

[1:17:05] here at the city that is over reliant on

[1:17:09] uh these smaller townships and their

[1:17:13] services? And not saying that um that

[1:17:16] our residents aren't getting good

[1:17:18] service, but we do know that our

[1:17:19] firefighters are the best and we want

[1:17:22] the best for uh service uh at times, but

[1:17:26] also uh outcomes and performance uh to

[1:17:29] be given to Columbus residents. And so

[1:17:31] this is this is it's a it's a difficult

[1:17:33] question not based off of this tip in

[1:17:36] front of us but the larger uh

[1:17:39] conversation that it it does and should

[1:17:41] elicit. I mean it's one of the reasons

[1:17:42] why we're having the public hearing on

[1:17:44] Thursday because uh there's a

[1:17:46] conversation on how do we have do we

[1:17:48] have enough apparatuses to go into

[1:17:50] stations? When is the next station? It

[1:17:53] is not again it's not the fact that um

[1:17:57] we don't have a fire station out there.

[1:17:59] we is that we don't know when the next

[1:18:00] one is coming and where it is going so

[1:18:02] that it it would help instruct council

[1:18:04] as we make votes every week around more

[1:18:07] housing and this is a larger growth

[1:18:09] conversation that I think we're all

[1:18:11] struggling with here um and trying to

[1:18:14] make sure that we are not leaning too

[1:18:16] hard on this

[1:18:19] failsafe

[1:18:22] this this should be an emergency usage

[1:18:23] not a uh planned policy

[1:18:26] » Well and council president I to that

[1:18:29] point. I think does it desent

[1:18:34] does it deincentivize Thank you. It's

[1:18:37] hard to be bilingual. Um for us to then

[1:18:40] continue to build fire stations because

[1:18:42] if we have that mutual aid and we have

[1:18:45] that Norwich that is serving our

[1:18:48] residents, then are we going to

[1:18:50] depprioritize

[1:18:51] building the fire stations in an area

[1:18:54] because we have that mutual aid? And I

[1:18:55] think that's I think to the point of our

[1:18:58] union members, I think that's part of

[1:19:00] the fear. Certainly, I think for me in

[1:19:03] our thinking is if we think, okay, well,

[1:19:06] we have this fire station there that's

[1:19:07] going to serve this area, then let's go

[1:19:09] build a fire station over here instead

[1:19:11] of over here. Does that how does that

[1:19:13] square, I guess, into our thinking and

[1:19:15] the methodology around how we prioritize

[1:19:18] where those fire stations are going to

[1:19:19] go?

[1:19:21] » Thank you for the question. Um, we have

[1:19:24] since I've been at the Department of

[1:19:25] Public Safety over the last few years,

[1:19:27] there has not been any conversation that

[1:19:29] has included reliance on mutual aid

[1:19:32] partners looking forward into the future

[1:19:34] as to where stations will be. In other

[1:19:36] words, we look at Columbus data and we

[1:19:39] base um the location of the station um

[1:19:44] on the guiding principle within 34

[1:19:46] 3124.23 23 the city code um which

[1:19:50] secretary treasurer Groy read which sets

[1:19:53] forth a goal for fire response for four

[1:19:56] minutes within the city and EMS response

[1:19:58] within 6 minutes. So we analyze areas

[1:20:00] where those response times are beyond

[1:20:02] four and 6 minutes and then that's where

[1:20:04] we look to where the station will be or

[1:20:06] could be but the cost of property is

[1:20:11] quite high. So, um, in a space, we need

[1:20:14] anywhere between 1 and a half and 4

[1:20:16] acres of land for a fire station. So,

[1:20:19] our our, um, opportunities are pretty

[1:20:21] limited in some areas of the city.

[1:20:30] » Oh, thank you, Chair. Um, Director

[1:20:33] Stevens, I just want to I just want to

[1:20:34] clarify. Sorry. Um, so the so what we're

[1:20:39] doing right now when we annexed in this

[1:20:42] property for Sugar Farms, is it just

[1:20:45] standard operating procedure? They

[1:20:47] already had they they had this money

[1:20:50] that would fund the township fire. I

[1:20:52] think that's what I'm hearing from you

[1:20:53] that it is

[1:20:57] that we have an obligation to continue

[1:20:58] paying that because technically there's

[1:21:00] still township and so is that why these

[1:21:02] dollars are transferring

[1:21:06] » Or or is that an agreement that we made

[1:21:08] when the

[1:21:09] » When the land was annexed or

[1:21:12] » So part of the Derby revenue plan um

[1:21:16] that was passed in the 2000s was to make

[1:21:19] sure when we put in tax increment

[1:21:22] financing to help make infrastructure

[1:21:24] investments as well as new community

[1:21:26] authorities to help

[1:21:28] have those developers make their

[1:21:29] commitment to the public infrastructure

[1:21:31] that needs to be built. Uh part of that

[1:21:33] plan called for taking the

[1:21:38] fire levy dollars that were would

[1:21:40] typically go to the township that is

[1:21:45] then being redirected to the tax

[1:21:47] increment financing fund sent giving

[1:21:49] that back to the township.

[1:21:52] » So then so that was a plan that was

[1:21:54] created in 2000 and essentially we're

[1:21:56] we're not voting on that plan tonight.

[1:21:58] We're essentially just doing the

[1:22:03] that that was the late 2000s. The Derby

[1:22:06] revenue plan was adopted as policy. This

[1:22:09] is an agreement that captures what that

[1:22:12] policy is and the commitment we're

[1:22:14] making and gives us the way to take

[1:22:16] those levy dollars and redirect them

[1:22:19] back to Norwich Township.

[1:22:21] » Got it. Thanks,

[1:22:26] » Council Member

[1:22:29] Remy. Well, I you know, I certainly want

[1:22:33] to acknowledge what our firefighter the

[1:22:35] IAFF brought up tonight because this is

[1:22:37] a broader discussion that needs to

[1:22:40] happen. Uh we need to know what the plan

[1:22:42] is and we've had a couple of matrix

[1:22:45] reports that have been issued and to my

[1:22:48] knowledge they're not being looked at

[1:22:50] very closely. And so, you know, as our

[1:22:53] population is burgeoning around the

[1:22:56] community, um certain parts we address

[1:22:59] that up in the far northeast quadrant,

[1:23:01] which is one of the fastest growing um

[1:23:04] se segments of the city, but so is this.

[1:23:06] And so, you know, the concern here is

[1:23:09] real and we take that seriously. But

[1:23:12] obviously as Columbus continues to grow,

[1:23:15] we've got to be clear to both our

[1:23:18] residents and to this body what is next.

[1:23:24] And I feel like that's where we're

[1:23:26] missing out right now. Um, you know,

[1:23:29] obviously mutual aid is a tool for

[1:23:31] cooperation and backup, but it is not

[1:23:35] something that this fire division of

[1:23:37] fire should rely on, and it's not a

[1:23:39] replacement for long-term planning.

[1:23:42] And that's what I feel like often times

[1:23:44] happens. So to the council president's

[1:23:45] point when he talks about you know well

[1:23:48] somebody brought up I forget who said it

[1:23:49] but you know when we talk about you know

[1:23:51] if oh president but yeah it was her uh

[1:23:54] when we talk about you know where our

[1:23:57] their mutual aid is and where we're

[1:24:00] building our stations.

[1:24:02] I don't even know what the answer of

[1:24:03] that is exactly and I'm the chair.

[1:24:07] So, you know, but when it comes to this

[1:24:10] ordinance tonight, it's m, you know,

[1:24:12] that's a broader conversation that needs

[1:24:14] to happen and will happen under this

[1:24:17] committee. But this ordinance obviously

[1:24:19] is an administrative change that has a

[1:24:21] much finer point to it um that you know

[1:24:24] I'm prepared to support. But I just

[1:24:28] think that we've got a larger issue to

[1:24:31] tackle that needs to have a broader

[1:24:33] conversation with all of us, with the

[1:24:35] administration and with our partners at

[1:24:38] the IFFF and and our and our division of

[1:24:40] fire because whether we need, you know,

[1:24:43] additional infrastructure, whether we

[1:24:45] need, you know, obviously we're going to

[1:24:46] have a hearing on Thursday about

[1:24:47] equipment and condition of our of our

[1:24:50] facilities, but certainly we want to

[1:24:53] make sure that we're planning for the

[1:24:55] future and not getting caught up in

[1:24:58] these discussions on administrative

[1:25:00] changes to a tiff and that's what I want

[1:25:04] to see us avoid in the future.

[1:25:07] » Council member W and not really a

[1:25:09] question related to this but uh council

[1:25:11] member I think it would be helpful if we

[1:25:13] have more discussion during your hearing

[1:25:15] around mutual aid and what that looks

[1:25:17] like. It does feel like the

[1:25:20] administration is

[1:25:22] using this as plan A for parts of the

[1:25:26] city where they do not intend to build

[1:25:28] another station and there is this

[1:25:30] disincentive where if there is a fire

[1:25:33] station right across the street in

[1:25:35] another township why would we also build

[1:25:38] the station in the same area. So I think

[1:25:40] that needs to be discussed broadly. If

[1:25:42] it is around us designating land

[1:25:45] specifically for public safety in areas

[1:25:48] that we're growing, that's what we

[1:25:49] should be doing as a community. We can

[1:25:51] do it with parkland. We should be doing

[1:25:52] public safety as well. So that we know

[1:25:55] when we are growing in different parts

[1:25:57] of the city, there is going to be

[1:25:59] adequate public safety resources

[1:26:01] available to people. this idea that we

[1:26:04] should be comfortable saying, "Well, a

[1:26:06] five minute five minutes to your house

[1:26:07] is okay when floor is preferred." No, I

[1:26:10] want you there immediately, right? I

[1:26:12] when I call with an emergency, I don't

[1:26:14] want you to play the game of what

[1:26:16] station do we go to? I want the nearest

[1:26:18] Columbus Fire Department station to

[1:26:20] react and come to my home. I think

[1:26:22] everyone who lives in the city feels

[1:26:23] that same way. So, I I do think we need

[1:26:25] to have additional discussion. I don't

[1:26:27] think now is the time to kind of get

[1:26:28] deep into that. This is an agreement

[1:26:30] that has been in place for a while and

[1:26:33] you know sadly I think we are conflating

[1:26:36] issues uh that have to have some deeper

[1:26:39] discussion in the future. So thank you.

[1:26:44] I just wanted to

[1:26:46] I think council member you hit the nail

[1:26:49] on the head and I think you know even in

[1:26:51] the department of public service whether

[1:26:54] it is because we need to acquire land

[1:26:56] for retention ponds or we need to do

[1:26:58] other things I think that that needs to

[1:27:00] be part of the thinking especially in

[1:27:02] for the for the areas

[1:27:05] I will be honest I just don't trust that

[1:27:08] if we have a fire station right there

[1:27:10] why and we are looking at other places,

[1:27:13] right? If you're thinking about a fiscal

[1:27:14] decision, not always putting, you know,

[1:27:17] not thinking about people decisions, but

[1:27:18] thinking about fiscal decisions, which

[1:27:20] sometimes we gear towards those fiscal

[1:27:22] and lean into fiscal decisions. I just

[1:27:25] it's difficult for me to see that we

[1:27:27] would make if we haven't done it yet,

[1:27:30] why would we now? And I think that's

[1:27:32] what we're hearing from our firefighters

[1:27:34] union. And I think that's what you're

[1:27:35] hearing from council here is how do we

[1:27:38] then start to think differently about um

[1:27:42] acquiring that land? How do we start

[1:27:43] thinking differently about those plans

[1:27:45] in the future? And I think to your

[1:27:47] point, I think that needs to be chair. I

[1:27:50] hope that is part of the conversation as

[1:27:52] we continue to move forward because this

[1:27:54] is something that isn't it's not just a

[1:27:56] safety issue, it's a housing issue. It's

[1:27:58] everything. I mean, when we talk about

[1:28:00] zoning, when folks come in, what do they

[1:28:02] talk to us about? They talk about

[1:28:03] infrastructure. They talk about safety.

[1:28:05] They talk about all of the I I'm going

[1:28:08] to use amenities, which is not amenities

[1:28:09] because these are basic needs, but that

[1:28:11] people need, right, and the services and

[1:28:13] the city services that they need. And so

[1:28:15] I think it is um I agree that in this

[1:28:18] particular tiff, we have these

[1:28:20] opportunities when we talk about

[1:28:21] something, there is a domino effect in

[1:28:23] everything that it is that we're doing.

[1:28:24] And so this does provide us the

[1:28:26] opportunity to talk about larger issues.

[1:28:28] I think in this particular instance,

[1:28:30] right, we're here to talk about this

[1:28:32] tiff and what this tiff does, but I do

[1:28:34] think that this is and to our to our

[1:28:38] union members who are here. I think that

[1:28:40] this council has shown the support for

[1:28:43] you and for what it is that you're

[1:28:44] doing. And I think that you have the

[1:28:46] continued support certainly from me of

[1:28:48] thinking about how do we resolve the

[1:28:50] issue that you're bringing before us

[1:28:52] now. Um I hope it's not adversarial.

[1:28:55] That is not the intention as we talk

[1:28:58] about this particular tiff and our um

[1:29:00] you know support of it today as we think

[1:29:04] about what the longer term solve is.

[1:29:06] » No. And and I think uh council members

[1:29:09] that's exactly why you know we postponed

[1:29:11] this last week to I think get everyone

[1:29:13] briefed to have this discussion also

[1:29:15] knowing that we're having a larger

[1:29:16] discussion around fire service on

[1:29:19] Thursday. Uh but more importantly, I

[1:29:21] think this uh talks about uh our uh

[1:29:24] annexation policy. It is both always

[1:29:26] talked about as a blessing and a curse.

[1:29:28] When you think about uh the annexation

[1:29:31] policy that was put in place that said

[1:29:32] if you get sewer or water from Columbus,

[1:29:34] you have to become a part of it. Uh the

[1:29:36] blessing in that is that you see the

[1:29:38] size of city that we are now to be able

[1:29:40] to uh expand and do development or we

[1:29:42] would be like a lot of other major

[1:29:44] cities that were uh landlocked and

[1:29:46] confined by a lot of suburbs around us.

[1:29:50] The curse in that is when you do grow.

[1:29:52] It's not just fire we're talking about.

[1:29:53] It's parts of the city, right, that

[1:29:55] still don't have sidewalks or there have

[1:29:57] been parts of the city, right, that

[1:29:58] didn't even have street lights. That's

[1:30:00] not necessarily because we don't want to

[1:30:02] make those investments there. But when

[1:30:04] it's a township and those things aren't

[1:30:06] uh or a village and those things weren't

[1:30:07] required, now they come into the city,

[1:30:09] we got to al also have a growth

[1:30:11] strategy. So this is something that

[1:30:12] really goes back to 1950s when we came

[1:30:15] up and adopted that policy. It is both a

[1:30:17] blessing and a curse. But I think it is

[1:30:19] a larger conversation about our growth

[1:30:21] and that's why this council uh is

[1:30:23] advancing uh the Columbus forward

[1:30:25] package as we think about growth more

[1:30:27] comprehensively because we're going to

[1:30:29] have conversations about uh not just

[1:30:31] fire apparatess. as the springboard for

[1:30:33] it. Council me, I think your your

[1:30:35] conversation may be a little bit more

[1:30:36] broader on Thursday. Uh, but these are

[1:30:39] fair questions to have. Uh, but I think

[1:30:41] that the the piece of legislation before

[1:30:43] us is an administrative one. Um, that is

[1:30:46] really bound by the decision that this

[1:30:48] body made back in December. Um, and so I

[1:30:51] think uh for me I feel comfortable

[1:30:53] moving it forward but not necessarily

[1:30:55] comfortable with not continuing the

[1:30:57] conversation uh around the concerns that

[1:31:00] our firefighters have raised because

[1:31:02] they are in fact uh real concerns. Uh

[1:31:05] are there any final comments or

[1:31:06] questions from my colleagues?

[1:31:09] Seeing none, um I move for um passage by

[1:31:12] voice.

[1:31:15] » Please call the role by voice.

[1:31:17] » Bankston.

[1:31:18] » Yes. Barosa Deodia,

[1:31:20] » Yes.

[1:31:21] » Deakau,

[1:31:22] » Yes.

[1:31:23] » Dorren,

[1:31:24] » No.

[1:31:25] » Green,

[1:31:28] » No.

[1:31:30] » Remy,

[1:31:31] » Yes.

[1:31:32] » Ross,

[1:31:33] » Yes.

[1:31:34] » White,

[1:31:35] » Yes.

[1:31:36] » President Harden,

[1:31:39] » I'm actually going to vote no tonight.

[1:31:41] Uh because what I think we need is the

[1:31:43] plan. I think Thursday gets us a lot

[1:31:45] closer to having a plan. Um folks need

[1:31:48] to know as we grow that there are there

[1:31:52] that um that the city is making the

[1:31:56] appro taking the appropriate steps to

[1:31:58] make sure they are covered by the best

[1:32:00] in service. Uh we are going to have that

[1:32:02] conversation on Thursday. It is an

[1:32:04] expectation of mine um that uh we work

[1:32:08] with the administration to to get us

[1:32:10] there. Um but I'm going to vote no. But

[1:32:13] the ordinance does pass.

[1:32:16] Thank you, Council President. Want me to

[1:32:18] continue on with the agenda?

[1:32:22] » Um, actually, we should probably

[1:32:25] uh Is there a motion to recess for

[1:32:28] recess?

[1:32:30] » Second. Cler, please call the RO.

[1:32:34] » Can we go back? We need to go back.

[1:32:37] » 1508.

[1:32:38] That's emergency. Emergency

[1:32:42] is emergency.

[1:32:44] » It was an emergency. Okay,

[1:32:46] » We're good then. Okay. Um so this the

[1:32:49] motion to uh recess Bosa de Padilla de

[1:32:53] Akawa Dors Green Remy Ross Vice

[1:32:55] President Harden

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[2:22:38] Order. Clerk, please call the role.

[2:22:39] Banks Rosa de Padilla de Aar Dorren

[2:22:42] Green Remy Ross Weiss President Harden.

[2:22:44] » Can I get a motion to the reading of the

[2:22:45] journal?

[2:22:46] » Clark, please call the role.

[2:22:47] » Banks Timber Rosa de Padilla de Aar

[2:22:49] Dorren Green Remy Ross Swiss President

[2:22:51] Harden.

[2:22:52] » Are there any additions or corrections

[2:22:53] to the journal? Hearing none, the

[2:22:54] journal is approved. We'll now go to the

[2:22:56] zoning committee. Chair Dorren uh chairs

[2:22:58] this committee and all members ceremony.

[2:22:59] Council member, the floor is yours.

[2:23:00] Thank you, Council President. Before we

[2:23:02] begin tonight's agenda, first a little

[2:23:03] bit of housekeeping housekeeping. Will

[2:23:04] the clerk please read the numbers of

[2:23:06] legislation in this committee that

[2:23:07] require waiver of second reading?

[2:23:09] Ordinances

[2:23:11] 377, 824, 1284, 1716,

[2:23:16] 1768,

[2:23:18] 1772, and 1805-2026.

[2:23:22] Variances 378, 1764,

[2:23:26] 1769, 1800, and 1822-2026.

[2:23:31] » Thank you. I now move to wave second

[2:23:32] reading on those items.

[2:23:34] » Second call.

[2:23:36] » Banks timber roa deia de a dors green

[2:23:38] room reie ros vice president Harden.

[2:23:41] » Thank you. Uh as always I'll briefly

[2:23:43] explain our rules uh to speaking before

[2:23:45] council on reszonings and variances. We

[2:23:47] only hear a staff presentation for

[2:23:48] ordinance have a disapproval from a

[2:23:50] recommending body or if we have a public

[2:23:52] speaker time sign to speak against an

[2:23:53] ordinance. We permit three speakers on

[2:23:56] each side of an ordinance, three

[2:23:57] proponents, three opponents. We ask

[2:23:59] those speakers limit the remarks to

[2:24:00] three minutes per the standard rules of

[2:24:01] city council. All speakers on the

[2:24:03] council variance, including city staff,

[2:24:05] area commissioners, applicants, and

[2:24:06] members of the public will be sworn in

[2:24:07] before they give testimony. a

[2:24:09] representative of an area commission are

[2:24:10] always able to speak on ordinance. You

[2:24:11] do not need to fill out a speaker slip,

[2:24:13] but we do ask you alert city staff for

[2:24:15] your attention to speak at this

[2:24:16] committee hearing. Uh I'm aware that we

[2:24:18] do have two uh different area

[2:24:19] commissions here tonight to speak on two

[2:24:21] different pieces of legislation. Um

[2:24:24] representative civic association do need

[2:24:26] the fellow speaker club because civic

[2:24:28] associations are not formally recognized

[2:24:30] under Columbus City Code. Uh this

[2:24:31] evening we have six public speakers uh

[2:24:34] signed up to speak on legislation in

[2:24:35] this committee. On the advice of the

[2:24:37] city attorneys city attorney's office, I

[2:24:39] will now swear in city staff. Please

[2:24:41] stand and raise your right hand be sworn

[2:24:43] in. Do you swear affirm the test you're

[2:24:44] about to give shall be the truth,

[2:24:45] nothing but the truth, as you shall

[2:24:47] answer underpaintings of the penalty of

[2:24:48] perjury. If so, please say I do.

[2:24:50] » I do.

[2:24:50] » Thank you. Please let the record reflect

[2:24:52] that Tim Dietrich and Alyssa Saltzman

[2:24:53] for the Department of Building Zoning

[2:24:55] Services, Lewis Taba from the Department

[2:24:56] of Developments, Division of Planning,

[2:24:58] and Daniel Bleshman for the Division of

[2:24:59] Traffic Management and the Department of

[2:25:00] Public Safety have been sworn in. First,

[2:25:02] we have ordinance number 0377-2026one

[2:25:06] 824 Kenya Road being 7.7 plus acres

[2:25:09] located on the north side of Kenya Road,

[2:25:11] 900 plus feet west of Tanganger River

[2:25:12] Road from our rural district to AR3

[2:25:15] residential district. Uh this site was

[2:25:17] recently annexed in the city of Columbus

[2:25:18] and consists of two parcels developed

[2:25:20] with a variety of uses including office

[2:25:22] warehouse multi-unit residential

[2:25:24] consistent with Columbus's growth

[2:25:25] strategy. Uh the applicant is proposing

[2:25:27] a multi-unit residential development

[2:25:29] containing up to 435 apartment uh units.

[2:25:32] There is no area commission or civic

[2:25:33] association over this area but proposals

[2:25:35] have approvals from city staff and the

[2:25:37] development commission. Any questions

[2:25:38] comments my colleagues? Seeing none move

[2:25:40] for passage.

[2:25:42] Banks timber roa deodia de a dors green

[2:25:45] rooms vice president Harden

[2:25:46] » Pass.

[2:25:47] » Thank you. Next we have ordinance

[2:25:49] 0824-226

[2:25:50] reszone 80032

[2:25:52] uh Kennedy Road being 15.15 plus acres

[2:25:56] located in the north side of Kennedy

[2:25:57] Road 550 plus feet east of Chaser Street

[2:26:00] from Ral District to L1 limited

[2:26:02] apartment residential district. uh site

[2:26:05] was this site was recently annexed in

[2:26:06] the city of Columbus back in May and

[2:26:09] cons consists of three parcels each

[2:26:10] developed with a uh currently with a

[2:26:12] single unit dwelling and the requested

[2:26:13] reszoning will allow a multi-unit

[2:26:15] residential development with a maximum

[2:26:16] of 256 dwelling units. Proposals

[2:26:19] approved from city staff the development

[2:26:21] commission but a disapproval from the

[2:26:22] far east area commission. Uh due to the

[2:26:25] area commission disapproval we'll now

[2:26:26] hear from city staff. Um starting with

[2:26:29] Mr. De Tim Dietrich and Alyssa Saltzman

[2:26:31] from Department of Building Zoning

[2:26:32] Services. Floor is yours.

[2:26:38] » Good evening, Chair Dorans, President

[2:26:40] Harden, members of council. The 15.5

[2:26:43] acre site consists of three parcels,

[2:26:45] each developed with a single unit

[2:26:47] dwelling in the R rural district as a

[2:26:49] result of annexation into the city of

[2:26:51] Columbus. The applicant requests the LR1

[2:26:54] limited apartment residential district

[2:26:56] to allow a multi-unit residential de

[2:26:58] development with up to 256 dwelling

[2:27:01] units as shown in the included site plan

[2:27:04] and building elevations. North of the

[2:27:06] site are singleunit dwellings in the

[2:27:08] suburban periphery residential district

[2:27:10] of Jefferson Township. East of the site

[2:27:13] are singleunit dwellings in the

[2:27:15] countryside residential district of

[2:27:17] Jefferson Township. South of the site

[2:27:19] are singleunit dwellings in the R2

[2:27:21] limited uh sorry residential district.

[2:27:25] Uh west of the site are single unit

[2:27:27] dwellings in the LR2 limited residential

[2:27:29] district. The limitation text includes a

[2:27:32] maximum dwelling unit count of 256

[2:27:35] dwelling units and incorporates

[2:27:37] supplemental development standards

[2:27:39] addressing traffic improvements,

[2:27:41] pedestrian connectivity, landscaping,

[2:27:43] fencing and tree preservation.

[2:27:45] Additionally, the text includes

[2:27:47] commitments to develop the site in

[2:27:48] accordance with the submitted site plan

[2:27:50] and building elevations. Although the

[2:27:53] proposal exceeds the density of the far

[2:27:56] east land use plans, recommendation of

[2:27:58] lowdensity residential plan guidelines

[2:28:01] state that projects proposed at a

[2:28:03] density higher than the recommended land

[2:28:04] use may be supported if they include

[2:28:07] both a high level of site and building

[2:28:09] design and when significant natural

[2:28:12] resource preservation occurs. The

[2:28:14] included site plan and building

[2:28:16] elevations are consistent with these

[2:28:18] plan recommendations. Additionally, the

[2:28:20] request is aligned with the city's

[2:28:21] objective to provide more housing in all

[2:28:24] neighborhoods. Therefore, city

[2:28:25] department's recommendation is for

[2:28:27] approval.

[2:28:28] » Thank you. Uh two questions. So, one, uh

[2:28:31] what is the height district currently uh

[2:28:33] on the property and with this reszoning

[2:28:36] make any changes to that?

[2:28:38] Uh the current height district is 35 ft

[2:28:41] and uh it will I believe stay as 35 ft.

[2:28:45] » Thank you. And what are some of the

[2:28:46] examples you mentioned um be the

[2:28:49] department being in support of the

[2:28:50] application due to the increased um sort

[2:28:52] of site improvements particularly with

[2:28:54] some of the environmental concerns. this

[2:28:55] is something we've heard some things

[2:28:57] from um some residents within that area

[2:28:59] about the environmental impact of this

[2:29:01] and could you um walk us through you

[2:29:05] know some of those things that again

[2:29:07] were included by this applicant that go

[2:29:08] above and beyond what would what would

[2:29:10] be sort of standard.

[2:29:12] So um in the site plan they included a a

[2:29:16] large area in the northwest corner of

[2:29:19] specifically trees that are going to be

[2:29:21] preserved and then uh they increased the

[2:29:25] uh required perimeter yard or they uh

[2:29:31] they went with the exact perimeter yard.

[2:29:34] So instead of reducing that around the

[2:29:36] edges, they um exceeded not exceeded

[2:29:39] they met what is required. Um and they

[2:29:43] even upon request

[2:29:46] moved one of the buildings from three

[2:29:48] stories to two stories.

[2:29:50] » Thank you. Uh any questions my

[2:29:52] colleagues of the department at this

[2:29:53] time?

[2:29:55] Seeing none, we will move over to Lewis

[2:29:56] Taba from the Division of Planning.

[2:29:58] Thank you for being with us here

[2:29:59] tonight. Lewis and Pitch Hitten.

[2:30:01] » Sure.

[2:30:02] » Yours.

[2:30:02] » Thank you for having me. Thank you,

[2:30:04] Chair Dorren, President Harden, members

[2:30:05] of council. So, planning is supportive

[2:30:08] of the resoning at the site. Though the

[2:30:10] proposal exceeds the far east land use

[2:30:12] plans recommendation of lowdensity

[2:30:14] residential at the site, staff notes the

[2:30:17] Columbus citywide planning policies

[2:30:19] state that projects proposed at a

[2:30:21] density higher than the recommended land

[2:30:23] use may be supported if they include a

[2:30:26] high level of site and architecture

[2:30:28] design. Furthermore, C2P2 also states

[2:30:30] that densities higher uh than the

[2:30:33] recommended land use may be appropriate

[2:30:35] in instances when site design mitigates

[2:30:37] impacts on adjacent residential uses and

[2:30:40] significant natural resource

[2:30:42] preservation is provided. Planning also

[2:30:44] suggests the applicant consult with the

[2:30:46] wreck and parks department to explore

[2:30:48] potential opportunities for connectivity

[2:30:50] between the site and adjacent parkland

[2:30:52] to the north and west of the site and

[2:30:54] that is reflected on their site plan.

[2:30:57] » Thank you, Mr. Da. Any questions for my

[2:30:59] colleagues? Lewis, uh sort similar

[2:31:02] question I asked Miss Saltzman just

[2:31:03] about the sort of enhancements from a

[2:31:05] site plan that um are present here that

[2:31:08] uh from a planning standpoint that you

[2:31:09] would say whether or not those are

[2:31:10] architectural or or otherwise that sort

[2:31:13] of go above where um you know the sort

[2:31:16] of standard project would come in at.

[2:31:18] » Yeah. I mean so the the proposal shows

[2:31:20] reflects high quality design standards.

[2:31:22] It has a mixing of materials. It has

[2:31:24] building articulation

[2:31:26] um and fenestration. It has a variety.

[2:31:29] Uh it does have the clubhouse as well.

[2:31:32] And as far as the site design goes, uh

[2:31:34] Alyssa indicated that the first floor,

[2:31:36] the first building, building one, uh it

[2:31:38] will be below the 35 ft height limit

[2:31:41] that is allowed in the surrounding

[2:31:42] areas. It will be two stories. Uh and

[2:31:45] then the tree preservation in the

[2:31:46] northwest corner uh of the property.

[2:31:49] That was something that they worked with

[2:31:50] the planning division on preserving that

[2:31:52] right there, which provides a nice

[2:31:54] buffer between the residential uh to the

[2:31:56] north and to the west and to this

[2:31:58] proposed uh multi-unit development. And

[2:32:01] as far as the connectivity, uh it

[2:32:03] indicates that they'll work with Wreck

[2:32:04] and Parks Department, but we do like to

[2:32:06] see that kind of connectivity to open

[2:32:07] spaces.

[2:32:08] » Thank you. Uh any questions, my

[2:32:11] colleagues?

[2:32:13] » Thank you. Uh we'll move on to Mr.

[2:32:15] Bushman from traffic management.

[2:32:17] » Thank you, Chair Dorren. President

[2:32:19] Harden, members of council, in regards

[2:32:21] to our review of this application,

[2:32:23] please be advised that this site was

[2:32:25] required to complete a traffic impact

[2:32:27] study that evaluated traffic operations

[2:32:30] at the site access point to Kennedy Road

[2:32:33] and the intersection of Wagner Road and

[2:32:36] Kennedy Road. Resulting from this

[2:32:38] traffic impact study, the developer will

[2:32:40] be required to perform roadway widening

[2:32:43] of Kennedy Road to provide an eastbound

[2:32:45] left turn lane and a westbound left turn

[2:32:47] lane at the side access point to Kennedy

[2:32:51] Road, which is planned to be placed to

[2:32:53] form a fourth north leg of the

[2:32:56] intersection of Kennedy Road and Cedar

[2:32:58] Run Drive.

[2:33:00] Additionally, this developer will be

[2:33:02] required to construct additional

[2:33:03] sidewalk beyond the frontage of the site

[2:33:06] to connect to the existing sidewalk

[2:33:08] network that is present west of the

[2:33:10] site. These commitments are incorporated

[2:33:12] into the limitation text associated with

[2:33:15] this proposed ordinance. With these

[2:33:17] comments noted, the Department of Public

[2:33:18] Service has no further concerns

[2:33:20] regarding this application and I'd be

[2:33:22] happy to answer any questions.

[2:33:24] » Thank you, Mr. Bushman. Any question by

[2:33:26] council colleagues for traffic?

[2:33:29] Seeing none, um, normally we'd hear from

[2:33:31] deputy director for housing strategies,

[2:33:32] Aaron Proer, but unfortunately she's

[2:33:34] unable to be here with us. So, uh, Mr.

[2:33:36] Taba is going to read her report.

[2:33:41] Thank you. So, the proposed resoning of

[2:33:44] 8032 Kennedy Road supports the Columbus

[2:33:46] Housing Strategy by expanding housing

[2:33:48] supply and options in an opportunity

[2:33:51] area with high access to some of the

[2:33:53] region's largest job centers. The

[2:33:56] current housing infrastructure is not

[2:33:57] meeting the demand. Rents have increased

[2:34:00] 29% and home prices have risen 54% just

[2:34:03] since 2020. Cost burden households,

[2:34:06] those paying more than 30% of their

[2:34:07] income uh on their housing expenses rose

[2:34:10] from 25% to 33% since 2020. This

[2:34:14] indicates an increasing demand for new

[2:34:16] housing and in particular more rental

[2:34:18] options. The current home ownership rate

[2:34:21] in the census tract is 91%. which is

[2:34:24] compared to 45% in the city and only

[2:34:27] 7.3% of the housing units are attached

[2:34:30] units compared to 66% in the city as a

[2:34:34] whole. This indicates a lack of housing

[2:34:36] diversity in the area which limits

[2:34:38] options for new families and limits the

[2:34:41] mobility and aging in place options for

[2:34:43] existing residents. the proposed housing

[2:34:46] in an area of the city with access to

[2:34:48] tens of thousands of existing and

[2:34:50] planned jobs. Within 10 miles, there are

[2:34:52] 33,000 jobs at John Glenn International

[2:34:55] Airport and the 3,000 new jobs planned

[2:34:58] at Intel. There are also 86,000 jobs

[2:35:01] along the East Broad corridor.

[2:35:04] Connecting housing with jobs not only

[2:35:06] supports these workers with reasonable

[2:35:07] commutes and transportation costs, but

[2:35:10] also lessens the burdens on the regional

[2:35:12] transportation network by shortening

[2:35:14] commutes and lowering the number of

[2:35:15] vehicle trip miles traveled on our

[2:35:17] roadways.

[2:35:19] In an area with increased home prices

[2:35:21] and rents, already cost burden

[2:35:23] households and access to significant job

[2:35:25] centers is it is critical to add the

[2:35:27] needed new housing to manage the impacts

[2:35:29] of housing scarcity on existing families

[2:35:32] as well as those needing housing in the

[2:35:34] area. Thank you.

[2:35:37] » Thank you, Mr. Ta. Any questions for Mr.

[2:35:40] TA on that housing report?

[2:35:42] Seeing none, I will invite the

[2:35:44] applicants representative, Miss Bethany

[2:35:46] Seedorf, uh to the podium for a

[2:35:47] presentation.

[2:35:49] Welcome back to council.

[2:35:56] » Hello. Good evening, Council President

[2:35:58] Harden, uh, President Prom Dors, and

[2:35:59] members of council. Thank you for the

[2:36:01] opportunity to speak with you this

[2:36:02] evening. I'm Beth Sedorf. I'm an

[2:36:03] attorney at Bores. We represent Metro

[2:36:05] Development of the property on Kennedy

[2:36:07] Road to L1. So, I'll give you a brief

[2:36:10] procedural background on the property

[2:36:11] and then add some additional information

[2:36:13] on the commitments Metro's making um in

[2:36:15] response to feedback we received from

[2:36:16] the Far East Area Commission in the

[2:36:18] community. Um so, we met with the Far

[2:36:20] East Area Commission for well over five

[2:36:21] hours between um two meetings on January

[2:36:24] 6th and February 3rd and Joe Thomas from

[2:36:26] Metro Development um separately met with

[2:36:28] a group of neighbors from Wagner Chase

[2:36:29] subdivision in early January. And so, we

[2:36:32] appreciated the neighbors thoughtful

[2:36:34] feedback and we've incorporated many of

[2:36:35] the pieces of their feedback into our

[2:36:37] site plan. Um the biggest concerns tra

[2:36:39] uh neighbors uh shared were traffic

[2:36:41] concerns along Kennedy which we've

[2:36:43] addressed by adding east and westbound

[2:36:44] turn lanes. Um we're also the lack of

[2:36:47] sidewalks on the property. We're adding

[2:36:49] a sidewalk that cha connects down to

[2:36:51] Chaser Street and then also having

[2:36:53] school buses back up on Kennedy Road.

[2:36:55] We're have engineered the site to allow

[2:36:58] um school buses to enter the site to

[2:37:00] pick up and drop off students to avoid

[2:37:02] backup on Kennedy Road. Um,

[2:37:04] additionally, we've made a lot of uh

[2:37:06] changes to the property to um address

[2:37:09] concerns about privacy and then

[2:37:11] mitigating the impact on neighbors. Um,

[2:37:13] originally we proposed 312 units at this

[2:37:16] site and through the process, Metro's

[2:37:17] dropped the unit count down to 256

[2:37:20] units, which is a reduction of 56 units.

[2:37:22] That works out to approximately 16.9

[2:37:24] units per acre. Um, we've committed

[2:37:26] again to the large tree preservation

[2:37:28] area that acts as a natural buffer to

[2:37:29] the Wagner Chase subdivision to the

[2:37:31] north and west. Committed to building

[2:37:33] one, which fronts Kennedy Road being two

[2:37:35] stories instead of three. Committed to a

[2:37:37] six- foot tall privacy fence along most

[2:37:39] of the western and all of the northern

[2:37:41] property line. Committed to 8 foot tall

[2:37:43] evergreen trees along the western

[2:37:45] property line south of the tree

[2:37:46] preservation area. Committed to 8ft tall

[2:37:49] pries on the northern property line east

[2:37:51] of the tree preservation area. Moved

[2:37:53] building eight interior to the property

[2:37:55] to provide more privacy to the neighbor

[2:37:57] to the east. and also added 8 foot tall

[2:37:59] spruce trees along that eastern property

[2:38:01] line um to the neighbor to the east

[2:38:03] privacy. And ultimately um the area

[2:38:05] commission um voted not to recommend

[2:38:08] approval um because they wanted a lower

[2:38:10] density for this project um than what

[2:38:12] Metro could provide and also um wanted

[2:38:15] two-story buildings instead of

[2:38:16] three-story buildings. Uh we did receive

[2:38:18] support from city staff and a unanimous

[2:38:20] vote for approval from development

[2:38:21] commission and we share uh council's

[2:38:23] commitment to bringing more housing to

[2:38:25] the city and all income levels um to

[2:38:27] keep Columbus an affordable place to

[2:38:28] live for current and future residents.

[2:38:30] And with that, we ask for your um

[2:38:31] approval of this resoning to LA1. And

[2:38:33] I'm happy to answer any questions you

[2:38:35] all have.

[2:38:36] » Thank you. Uh any questions for the

[2:38:37] applicants represented at this time?

[2:38:39] » Can you tell me what the original

[2:38:41] request for the area commission from a

[2:38:43] density perspective was?

[2:38:44] » I'm sorry. Can you say that one more

[2:38:45] time? What was the request from the area

[2:38:46] commission regarding density?

[2:38:48] » Yeah, so I think that they were

[2:38:49] supportive of a density between 12 and

[2:38:52] 16 units an acre and we're at 16.9 and

[2:38:55] we came down from I think it was 20 uh

[2:38:59] originally 20.6

[2:39:03] other questions of the applicants

[2:39:04] representative

[2:39:07] miss I'll invote you back up after

[2:39:08] public testimony. Thank you. Um, as I

[2:39:11] mentioned, we have a number of folks uh

[2:39:13] speak up against this ordinance here

[2:39:14] this evening. The first is uh Far East

[2:39:16] area commissioner Jeffrey Chamberlain.

[2:39:21] Commissioner, welcome back to council

[2:39:43] Good evening, Council President Harden

[2:39:46] and Prom Dorren.

[2:39:53] I actually wanted the residents to speak

[2:39:56] first. Um,

[2:40:00] I want to say that it's sad that

[2:40:05] we feel that you all have an absolute

[2:40:07] mindset and decision that you're locked

[2:40:10] in at.

[2:40:12] And if you truly examine that, and

[2:40:15] despite what will probably be a

[2:40:18] half-hearted attempt to convince

[2:40:20] otherwise, you know there is nothing I

[2:40:22] can say tonight and no relevance of

[2:40:25] being here anymore.

[2:40:27] I only came here to show the community

[2:40:30] that we supported them in the few small

[2:40:33] changes we wanted to make.

[2:40:37] » That's it.

[2:40:39] Thank you,

[2:40:40] » Miss Chamberlain. What What were those

[2:40:42] small changes you're alluding to?

[2:40:45] » We asked the density be dropped to 16 or

[2:40:51] under 16. We asked for a

[2:40:56] bus to be able to

[2:40:59] go inside of the development to not hold

[2:41:01] up traffic um for both traffic sake and

[2:41:05] safety sake of kids uh getting onto the

[2:41:08] school bus. And they do show on the

[2:41:11] plans a school bus can go in and out of

[2:41:15] there. We don't have any um

[2:41:19] confirmation that that actually will

[2:41:23] happen. Um, and the last one was

[2:41:27] the frontmost building on the site that

[2:41:30] faces the road. We commonly asked for

[2:41:32] this drop from a threetory to a twotory.

[2:41:35] So, it's not such a big um expanse of a

[2:41:41] building heightwise that you're going to

[2:41:42] see on the road.

[2:41:44] » Okay,

[2:41:45] » That's it.

[2:41:47] » Uh, any questions for council members

[2:41:49] for folks from the Air Commission?

[2:41:54] Um,

[2:41:55] » Council.

[2:41:56] » Well, chair, we're going to have a I

[2:41:58] think some of those conditions were met.

[2:42:00] » Am I?

[2:42:01] » Well, I think Commissioner Chamberlain

[2:42:02] acknowledged that at least in the bus

[2:42:04] situation, it was, but I think her

[2:42:05] concern remains about sort of the

[2:42:07] practicality of it on a continuing

[2:42:08] basis. Is that fair?

[2:42:10] » What? I'm sorry.

[2:42:11] » So, the the applicant mentioned that

[2:42:13] they redesigned it the the entrance so a

[2:42:16] school bus could enter and exit. I think

[2:42:18] if I heard you correctly, you're just

[2:42:20] concerned whether or not that will

[2:42:21] actually occur like in the future. The

[2:42:23] design is the one is one thing and the

[2:42:25] other is it actually implemented that

[2:42:26] way. Is is that a fair assessment?

[2:42:28] » Correct.

[2:42:28] » Okay.

[2:42:30] » And Commissioner Chamberlain, if those

[2:42:32] conditions were met, would that change

[2:42:34] the position of the commission?

[2:42:37] » If all three of those would have Yes, we

[2:42:40] we would have voted otherwise.

[2:42:43] What if most of the conditions were met

[2:42:45] but not all of the conditions?

[2:42:47] » What if I'm sorry?

[2:42:48] » Well, I'm just thinking if most of the

[2:42:50] conditions were met, if you had like

[2:42:51] three sticking points and two out of the

[2:42:53] three could be met, would that satisfy

[2:42:56] some of the concerns or no?

[2:42:58] » No. Because basically at the last

[2:43:00] meeting when they came, they told us

[2:43:03] that two of the three were met um with

[2:43:06] the redesign of the bus going into the

[2:43:09] um complex and then with the height

[2:43:13] being reduced from three story to

[2:43:15] twotory.

[2:43:16] » Okay.

[2:43:16] » So

[2:43:18] » There question council members. So, so

[2:43:20] Jennifer, I just want I just want to be

[2:43:22] clear.

[2:43:23] » If we have if there's an ability for us

[2:43:25] to mandate that the bus be able to enter

[2:43:31] and exit the complex and that also

[2:43:35] [clears throat] the frontmost building

[2:43:36] be reduced from three stories to two

[2:43:38] stories. The remainder of the concerns

[2:43:40] from the community is just the 16.9

[2:43:43] density versus 16.

[2:43:46] » Okay. We we just wanted it to match the

[2:43:48] surrounding.

[2:43:50] There's not many apartments in the area,

[2:43:52] but we wanted to maintain where the

[2:43:55] others all were, which was in the the

[2:44:00] under the 16.

[2:44:02] » Okay.

[2:44:06] » Uh other question, council members for

[2:44:07] the air commission.

[2:44:10] So, chair, I I just wanted to be able to

[2:44:12] ask this out loud because um you know,

[2:44:14] and again, I um I can sense your

[2:44:16] frustration and disappointment uh from

[2:44:18] your comments here. I I guess when I

[2:44:21] hear an applicant come in at well over

[2:44:24] 20 units per acre and that's coming down

[2:44:27] to, you know, close to right around 17,

[2:44:30] which is, you know, to be fair, above

[2:44:32] what the area commission requested. And

[2:44:33] I'm just curious from a perspective of

[2:44:35] how do you how how did the area

[2:44:37] commission sort of arrive at 16 as the

[2:44:39] number that made sense for you all?

[2:44:41] » The 16 was the apartments that were in

[2:44:44] the area already. Um and again we just

[2:44:49] wanted to match that. And when they

[2:44:52] first came to our

[2:44:55] uh the very first meeting with them

[2:44:58] uh I I don't believe they were at the

[2:45:01] over the 20 at that point. They had

[2:45:04] already had a recommendation from I

[2:45:08] think it it was city staff to reduce it

[2:45:12] down so that it already had come to us

[2:45:15] low much lower than that. They they just

[2:45:17] reduced it by a little. Uh

[2:45:21] » Okay. Yeah. I just want to I wanted the

[2:45:23] body to sort of understand because we're

[2:45:24] talking about many of these things are

[2:45:26] moving throughout a process in which

[2:45:27] they're applicants are getting you know

[2:45:29] guidance from city staff. They're also

[2:45:31] getting requests from an area commission

[2:45:32] and those are you know different you

[2:45:34] know sort of pushes and pulls as they

[2:45:35] sort of arrive to us. So I think for me

[2:45:37] anyways it's just wanting members to

[2:45:39] sort of digest sort of how do we got to

[2:45:41] this place in which you all are saying

[2:45:43] 16 is is our number based upon from

[2:45:45] hearing right. Hey, this is sort of what

[2:45:46] has been out there from a multi-unit

[2:45:48] development within the area and them

[2:45:50] saying, "Hey, we're we're at 16.9." Um,

[2:45:53] yeah. So, any other council member?

[2:45:56] » I was just going to say from what I'm

[2:45:58] seeing from the um from the briefing

[2:46:02] document that we got, I believe one of

[2:46:05] the buildings is down to a twotory.

[2:46:07] » Yes, we asked Yeah, just for the the

[2:46:09] main one that sits right up against the

[2:46:11] road that that be reduced down to two

[2:46:14] stories. So there isn't such a

[2:46:17] » Right such a high difference.

[2:46:19] » And then the other thing so so that that

[2:46:22] was one of the conditions right and then

[2:46:24] the other one was the school bus which I

[2:46:26] hear you on that and we hear that often.

[2:46:29] I mean

[2:46:30] » You know I live as you all know I live

[2:46:32] off of Broad Street and there is a a bus

[2:46:35] even on Broad Street in the morning that

[2:46:37] picks up a student. Um, and it it

[2:46:40] certainly backs up traffic, but I know

[2:46:42] in some of the areas where I think Broad

[2:46:43] Street has the ability to have different

[2:46:45] lanes, but I do believe that when we

[2:46:47] talked to the applicant, and I brought

[2:46:49] up this concern, I I thought, and the

[2:46:51] applicant will come back up, but I I do

[2:46:53] believe that they talked to the school

[2:46:55] district about ensuring that the

[2:46:57] clubhouse could be the drop off and

[2:46:59] pickup for students. So, I just want to

[2:47:01] make sure that we can ask the applicant

[2:47:03] to confirm that when they come back up.

[2:47:05] Mhm.

[2:47:07] » Any other questions, council members,

[2:47:09] for the air commission?

[2:47:10] » It's not a question. It's a it's it's a

[2:47:12] it's a comment. I know we have other

[2:47:14] speakers that will speak to this,

[2:47:17] » But I I I I do

[2:47:21] one I would still encourage regardless

[2:47:23] of how this vote goes down that

[2:47:27] we acknowledge that the role and the

[2:47:29] advocacy does change things. every

[2:47:32] everything right now what we literally

[2:47:34] are talking about is one of the three

[2:47:36] did not totally get met

[2:47:39] which means that your the things that

[2:47:42] happened at your meeting and I know we

[2:47:44] all have constituencies you're my

[2:47:45] constituent who lives in the district

[2:47:47] that I represent but your advocacy and

[2:47:52] the advocacy of the area commission

[2:47:53] changed this deal by a lot

[2:47:58] and so so I don't want us to devalue

[2:48:00] your work in front of the community who

[2:48:05] of course they want

[2:48:07] every piece of it. But we all know this

[2:48:10] is democracy. This is this is it's never

[2:48:13] only you get everything or or the

[2:48:15] highway and or we're taking our ball and

[2:48:17] going home. And so I we will work

[2:48:19] through and I I'm I'm eager to hear and

[2:48:23] talk through with the residents who are

[2:48:26] coming to speak about this. But I the

[2:48:29] reason I was I I got the list of things

[2:48:31] that we we asked for and it was I mean

[2:48:34] they were checking them off specifically

[2:48:36] on the bus one. They went to the school

[2:48:38] district and the school district said

[2:48:40] yes that this would work. And so

[2:48:45] I I I I just that was this is just to

[2:48:47] support you and your work. Don't don't

[2:48:50] don't be demoralized by

[2:48:53] getting 90% there if that's the if

[2:48:56] that's the way this council votes. We do

[2:48:58] have we we this is I think I can speak

[2:49:00] for the council and saying this is a

[2:49:01] proousousing council. When we say that

[2:49:03] that there's not there's not that many

[2:49:05] apartments out there that actually is

[2:49:07] the argument for why there probably

[2:49:08] needs to be some. We you and I live I

[2:49:11] live out there. I live right on the

[2:49:12] corner of McNottton and

[2:49:15] we know all those businesses right

[2:49:17] there. We know that they don't pay that

[2:49:19] much. So who's going to work over there?

[2:49:22] Where are they going to live? And so I

[2:49:24] think having a mixed community which and

[2:49:26] and I know why we fight so hard to keep

[2:49:28] it because it's amazing side of town.

[2:49:30] That's why I love living there. But I

[2:49:32] just wanted to that was just for the

[2:49:34] area commission. We got very specific

[2:49:35] things that some of your constituents my

[2:49:38] constituents will debate and I will I

[2:49:40] will engage that way. But just for for

[2:49:42] your leadership I'm saying thank you.

[2:49:45] You you work you work hard and um just

[2:49:48] want to say that. Well, Council

[2:49:50] President, I will continue and we will

[2:49:52] continue to meet with the community and

[2:49:54] and the developers and work with them,

[2:49:57] but it it just feels like when we when

[2:50:00] we come here, the decisions already

[2:50:03] made. So,

[2:50:05] » I appreciate you.

[2:50:06] » We're done. Thank you.

[2:50:09] » Uh, as I mentioned, we have two other

[2:50:11] public speakers trying to speak on this

[2:50:13] ordinance. Um, I do apologize if I get

[2:50:15] anyone's names wrong, so please correct

[2:50:17] me uh if if I do at the podium. The

[2:50:20] first public speaker is Michael uh Gund

[2:50:24] Gunter.

[2:50:27] » Michael Gther. All right. Rolls off the

[2:50:29] tongue there. Welcome to Cousin.

[2:50:34] » Welcome to council, sir.

[2:50:41] » Second cousin maybe.

[2:50:49] I know some of you already talked to

[2:50:52] Phil and the the the the author of this

[2:50:57] outlet and but he can't be here because

[2:51:00] his excuse me his wife had cancer and

[2:51:04] they're on uh

[2:51:06] she finished her chemo.

[2:51:10] So, uh, he promised her a trip to her

[2:51:13] family in Dominican Republic. So, that's

[2:51:15] why he I handed this out. He would be

[2:51:18] here to do this. If you look through

[2:51:20] there while I'm talking, you'll see what

[2:51:23] this property has to offer without a

[2:51:26] department put on it.

[2:51:31] I live My name is Michael Ginther. I

[2:51:34] live at 81 Kennedy Road. I'm here to

[2:51:38] oppose the reszoning of the 15 acres

[2:51:41] located on the north side of Kennedy

[2:51:43] Road for the purpose of building a

[2:51:45] multi-residential development for metro

[2:51:48] development.

[2:51:50] It is a false premise that a need for

[2:51:52] more apartments exist in this area. I

[2:51:55] have researched the availability

[2:51:58] of apartments in the Black Lick area

[2:52:00] from one site apartments.com.

[2:52:03] The number of empty apartments within

[2:52:06] the small cities around Columbus is

[2:52:08] 3,713.

[2:52:12] Black Lake already has 1,096.

[2:52:15] Gahana, 125, Patascal 538,

[2:52:20] Whiteall 300, New Albany 54,

[2:52:24] Reynoldsburg 700 apartments.

[2:52:28] This does not include the new apartments

[2:52:30] that are being built right now on Taylor

[2:52:32] Station Road and Morris Road. Those are

[2:52:36] massive apartments being built. It

[2:52:38] appears the development in this area

[2:52:40] right now is more about profit and

[2:52:43] concessions from the state and the city

[2:52:45] of Columbus rather than a need for

[2:52:47] housing. Houses for rent in the same

[2:52:50] areas as 454.

[2:52:54] houses for sale in the same area as 444.

[2:52:59] So just as small surrounding area around

[2:53:01] Columbus,

[2:53:03] I mean around Black Lake. The 15 acres

[2:53:06] is not farmland. It is full of life,

[2:53:09] bats, deer, foxes, birds of all kinds,

[2:53:12] thousands of trees, some of them 80

[2:53:15] years old and older. All of them home

[2:53:18] and shelter for these animals. They

[2:53:20] already sent in bulldozers and drills

[2:53:23] and plowed over the wet areas that Mr.

[2:53:26] Levit has found to have the core of

[2:53:29] engineers come look at. And the

[2:53:30] bulldozers plowed it over and the drill

[2:53:33] brakes got stuck in the same area

[2:53:36] because it is a wet area.

[2:53:39] A complaint with the Army Corine

[2:53:42] has been filed. file number LRH 2000

[2:53:47] 00162

[2:53:49] assigned to Lee Arco and his phone

[2:53:52] number 304399

[2:53:56] 5210

[2:53:57] at this time it is unknown if he has

[2:54:01] contacted Mr. Leon,

[2:54:03] the removal of three houses, two brand

[2:54:06] new pole barns on 15 acres of

[2:54:09] long-standing woodlands for more

[2:54:11] apartments makes no sense at all.

[2:54:15] Other than that, the as you can tell

[2:54:18] from the outlet and from the handout,

[2:54:22] Franklin County has already deemed that

[2:54:26] wetlands unacceptable for a buildings

[2:54:29] because it's underground. Now, Phil,

[2:54:33] excuse me, Phil has worked his whole

[2:54:36] life is in water and everything. So, if

[2:54:38] you look through that, you'll see he

[2:54:41] knows what he's talking about. He's

[2:54:43] contacted the Army Corps of Engineers

[2:54:46] and I'm not sure if they contacted him

[2:54:48] back or not, but uh I don't think your

[2:54:52] vote I think your vote should be no or

[2:54:54] if you need to hear from Phil himself

[2:54:57] when he gets back from

[2:54:59] uh Dominican Republic to explain more of

[2:55:02] what you're looking at because this is a

[2:55:05] there's some wet spots. I own the pond

[2:55:09] that's on the other side and my my pond

[2:55:13] is completely springfed and it runs

[2:55:16] through the 15 acres. So in the last

[2:55:20] council meeting he said, "Well, you got

[2:55:21] to the developers got to come up with a

[2:55:24] plan because all of my water they can't

[2:55:27] stop my water from leaving my land.

[2:55:30] There's there's uh the springs and all

[2:55:33] the way down Kennedy Road. All those

[2:55:36] ponds down Kennedy Road are springfed

[2:55:39] ponds. So the whole area is water under

[2:55:43] the ground and it bubbles up and fills

[2:55:46] ponds. They dug ponds. It fills back up.

[2:55:49] Then it goes back underground. So when

[2:55:51] they start digging all this property off

[2:55:55] the from my ground level, the surveyor

[2:55:58] was there last week or the week before,

[2:56:00] they've got to dig down 4 feet of dirt

[2:56:03] to make their level level with my level

[2:56:06] so the water don't flow to my property.

[2:56:09] So then they're already getting closer

[2:56:11] to the water table. Uh my house and the

[2:56:15] other houses east of me are all on uh

[2:56:19] septic septic tanks and spring water. I

[2:56:23] nobody's on city water. So when they

[2:56:26] start digging, they're going to affect

[2:56:28] our water outflow

[2:56:30] also.

[2:56:33] » Uh any question my colleagues from Mr.

[2:56:35] Gther?

[2:56:39] » Thank you sir.

[2:56:41] » Thank you very much.

[2:56:43] Uh the next speaker to come for council

[2:56:44] is Mr. John C. Lesson Jr.

[2:56:47] Mr. Leon, welcome to council.

[2:56:50] » Leon, thank you.

[2:57:05] » I was uh the third house built in

[2:57:10] Jefferson Pond.

[2:57:12] and uh been there over 20 years

[2:57:15] and what this is like to me this makes

[2:57:20] no sense because it's a complete wetland

[2:57:24] area as Michael said it's uh it would be

[2:57:28] a dynamic area for like affordable

[2:57:31] housing for for you you talk about you

[2:57:34] want to help people so if you built like

[2:57:38] small houses in there

[2:57:41] for affordable housing like uh firsttime

[2:57:45] buyer that would be ideal because uh

[2:57:49] what's going to happen is like he said

[2:57:52] the water table

[2:57:54] okay if they don't if they don't level

[2:57:58] with the table they got to like 15 acres

[2:58:02] 4 feet they got to push all that dirt

[2:58:05] you know to level it if they don't do

[2:58:07] that all that water is just going to go

[2:58:09] flow back in our development. And the

[2:58:12] first time that water goes into my

[2:58:15] basement, because I've lived there 20

[2:58:17] years, the the pond

[2:58:20] when it's when it rains and floods in

[2:58:23] the spring, it's beautiful because it

[2:58:26] builds a little creek right by the side

[2:58:29] and and actually fish come out and swim

[2:58:33] around in the in the actual neighborhood

[2:58:37] right there because it's all wet land.

[2:58:40] And then it it goes back out in the

[2:58:42] summer. It you know it it's I mean it's

[2:58:46] like I drive a truck and I did

[2:58:49] construction for before that and to me

[2:58:52] this is like ridiculous

[2:58:55] be not to mention Kennedy Road is going

[2:58:59] to be a nightmare once they have those

[2:59:03] 200 plus units in there. It's going to

[2:59:06] be I bet you have road rage out the

[2:59:10] yin-yang. I mean, you're going to have

[2:59:12] fights. It's going to get insane then.

[2:59:16] Go ahead.

[2:59:18] » Oh, I thought you had a question.

[2:59:21] » Well, I'm just telling you it's the

[2:59:24] community is and then I know that you

[2:59:27] don't care about I mean the environment

[2:59:31] you but the environment is beautiful. I

[2:59:34] mean it is. We've got screechiles. We've

[2:59:37] got families of deer. We've got and

[2:59:41] they're all

[2:59:43] It's just amaz We have cranes. We have

[2:59:46] because And then they're talking about

[2:59:48] they're going to build an opening in

[2:59:51] their apartment area so they can come

[2:59:54] into Jefferson Pond and mess and and

[2:59:57] have access to the pond, you know. And

[3:00:01] when I live when I moved there, I I

[3:00:04] never thought that there would be I

[3:00:07] mean, like he said, there's trees 80

[3:00:09] feet tall that have been there and it's

[3:00:12] just and now you're just going to it's

[3:00:15] going to be a joke. And the water table,

[3:00:18] the minute the minute that water flies

[3:00:21] falls into,

[3:00:23] you know, then that's going to be a

[3:00:25] mess. It's going to it it just makes no

[3:00:29] sense. It's going to be a nightmare for

[3:00:32] uh flooding. It's going to be uh the bus

[3:00:35] route is going to be insane for the

[3:00:39] kids. And the minute they open that up

[3:00:41] and a kid goes back there in that pond

[3:00:43] and drowns because they're going to open

[3:00:46] that all up and then we'll have kids in

[3:00:48] the pond drowning. It's not it just

[3:00:52] single family houses would be because

[3:00:55] you could control the water flow a lot

[3:00:58] better and not mess up all the wells and

[3:01:00] not mess up the water. I mean that just

[3:01:03] but I I'm not I'm I'm not a very good

[3:01:05] presenter, you know. I'm not I drive a

[3:01:08] semi. So, I work hard for a living, you

[3:01:12] know, and I I when I moved there, that

[3:01:16] was I was going to stay there till I die

[3:01:19] or until I, you know, whatever. I mean,

[3:01:22] I've been there 20ome. It's awesome. And

[3:01:25] now it's I'm just like, if I could show

[3:01:28] you a view on my phone, my bedroom is

[3:01:31] just it's I look out my master window

[3:01:33] and it's just trees and like you hear

[3:01:37] the owls, you hear the it's just

[3:01:40] amazing. And to put apartments back

[3:01:42] there, it's like it's it makes no sense.

[3:01:46] Especially with all the wetland and

[3:01:48] everything and where are all the animals

[3:01:51] going to go? They're gonna be it's gonna

[3:01:54] be a mess. There's a whole family of

[3:01:56] deer like 20ome deer. I mean it's and

[3:02:00] it's So what was your question?

[3:02:03] » Thank you. Um want to see about my

[3:02:05] council colleagues questions for our

[3:02:07] public speaker.

[3:02:08] » Uh John.

[3:02:10] » Yeah.

[3:02:10] » Can I call you John?

[3:02:11] » Yeah, you call me John. My my friends

[3:02:13] call me Jay, but my legal name is John.

[3:02:16] So

[3:02:16] » Well, I hope to be your friend one day,

[3:02:18] John.

[3:02:18] » Okay. Hopefully.

[3:02:19] » Um

[3:02:20] » We'll see.

[3:02:22] So, [laughter]

[3:02:24] so you're a great speaker by the way.

[3:02:26] You're a great presenter. It you did a

[3:02:28] great job. Question for you is my wonder

[3:02:33] is when you talk about So, I live in

[3:02:36] what was once dairy land. I live on the

[3:02:39] east side. I are I live close to Alm

[3:02:43] Creek. We've our a lot of our basements

[3:02:45] fled. Also, I also have deer in my

[3:02:48] backyard. So, I feel like the deer will

[3:02:49] still come no matter what. But my

[3:02:51] question for you is when you talk about

[3:02:54] single family homes being there rather

[3:02:56] than apartments, wouldn't we have the

[3:02:58] same issues though?

[3:03:00] » Because you're talking about development

[3:03:01] like you're there's one thing to say

[3:03:04] don't disturb this because it's wetlands

[3:03:05] and it's beautiful and whatever. But if

[3:03:07] we're disturbing it anyways, what's the

[3:03:09] difference between the apartments and

[3:03:11] single family homes? Because if we built

[3:03:13] all of those and that means we're

[3:03:14] building streets, that means we're

[3:03:16] building access. That means, you know,

[3:03:19] I'm not sure where the disruption might

[3:03:21] be different than putting those

[3:03:23] apartments there. So, I'm just wondering

[3:03:25] what your thought process is.

[3:03:26] » Well, yeah, cuz you wouldn't have all

[3:03:28] that concrete. You wouldn't have all

[3:03:30] that. It' be there would be a you you

[3:03:32] know, wouldn't

[3:03:32] » Well, you need a city street though and

[3:03:34] then everybody might want a driveway.

[3:03:36] So, I feel like it's still the same.

[3:03:38] » You have grass and so the there would be

[3:03:42] grass and there would be and it would

[3:03:44] and it would help. I mean, because a lot

[3:03:46] of people want to live in that area

[3:03:48] because it's beautiful

[3:03:50] » And it's and like I sent my daughter to

[3:03:52] Grace Christian there, you know, and I

[3:03:56] mean, so it's just

[3:03:59] » Cuz I

[3:04:00] » I just don't think an apartment building

[3:04:02] is just all that density

[3:04:05] right there at at once is just going to

[3:04:09] be I mean, think about it. all those

[3:04:11] people going to work on Kennedy Road

[3:04:14] coming out. It's going to be a mess.

[3:04:17] » Well, I'm just and I'm and I'm asking

[3:04:20] just because I think we haven't had an

[3:04:21] opportunity to have conversations about

[3:04:23] it because, you know, I think about how

[3:04:26] beautiful the place is and if you could

[3:04:28] only afford a house there, that means

[3:04:29] that's the only way you would be able to

[3:04:31] afford that beauty there, right? And so

[3:04:33] when I think about apartments, I mean, I

[3:04:36] I've shared this story many times. My

[3:04:38] niece has twins. She lived in my house

[3:04:40] for two years cuz she couldn't because

[3:04:42] apartment rates are really expensive,

[3:04:44] right? And so

[3:04:47] she should be able to live anywhere in

[3:04:48] the city that she wants to live, not in

[3:04:50] this place or this place cuz that's

[3:04:51] where affordable housing is. And so I

[3:04:53] think apartments are that like middle

[3:04:55] road for people before you can buy a

[3:04:57] house. I mean, there's going to be some

[3:04:58] people who may never be able to afford a

[3:05:00] house and who are going to live in an

[3:05:02] apartment. And so that's the only re

[3:05:04] that's the reason I'm asking is because

[3:05:05] I think about people you know I mean I

[3:05:08] think about our staff here. I think

[3:05:10] about you know other folks who want to

[3:05:13] live in beautiful places as well and

[3:05:15] want to have someplace that's affordable

[3:05:17] for them to live and so

[3:05:18] » And then maybe smaller apartments but we

[3:05:21] don't need no threestory freaking

[3:05:23] monsters. Do you know? What about what

[3:05:27] about little small little uh like like I

[3:05:30] don't know if you guys were Wand dot was

[3:05:33] built and Willis Park area something

[3:05:36] like that you know

[3:05:37] » So you so would been it would have been

[3:05:39] okay it's just the density really at the

[3:05:41] end of the day it's the density that

[3:05:43] you're

[3:05:43] » I mean it needs to be broken up not like

[3:05:46] uh some big freaking threestory

[3:05:50] building that you know looks like a I

[3:05:52] just it's stupid and then all the water

[3:05:56] it go it has nowhere to go because

[3:05:58] there's not going to be you know it's

[3:06:01] going to be all black top concrete and

[3:06:03] all that it's going to be a mess and it

[3:06:06] and they have to push all that it's like

[3:06:10] I think what Michael said like and

[3:06:14] four feet you know 15 acres all that

[3:06:17] dirt's got to be cuz the minute they

[3:06:20] it's going to do this and flow right

[3:06:22] back into Jefferson Pond subdivision

[3:06:24] vision. It's going to be we'll be

[3:06:26] floating around the boats, you know. I

[3:06:29] mean, it'll be crazy.

[3:06:32] » Thank you so much, Frank.

[3:06:33] » Thank you so much for your testimony.

[3:06:35] » And Jay, I I take your point about this

[3:06:37] water table issue that that is to the

[3:06:40] development team. That is what I'll ask

[3:06:41] about when they come back up.

[3:06:42] Understanding trying to understand

[3:06:44] » This 4 foot

[3:06:45] » I was going to I was going to ask the

[3:06:47] same question as well. It's wetlands.

[3:06:49] It's not it's it's not made for big

[3:06:52] monstrous

[3:06:54] apartment buildings. I mean, small

[3:06:56] little starter homes would be ideal. You

[3:07:01] know,

[3:07:01] » I still think you would have the same

[3:07:02] issue. I I think to your point, council

[3:07:05] president, I think understanding from

[3:07:07] the developer what to do with the water

[3:07:08] because again, I mean, I live in a

[3:07:11] neighborhood that is houses and we still

[3:07:12] have a water issue. So, I think just

[3:07:14] understanding it what they're going to

[3:07:16] do. I don't think it matters whether you

[3:07:17] do apartments or houses if you

[3:07:20] » And I don't want to look out my bedroom

[3:07:21] window and have this gigantic threestory

[3:07:24] building that can look right into my

[3:07:28] master bedroom, you know? I mean, make

[3:07:30] it, you know, smaller, you know, cuz

[3:07:34] like I said, they're supposed to the

[3:07:36] trees

[3:07:37] are like supposed but they cut down

[3:07:40] tree. They they think they've already

[3:07:41] got it done cuz they came back there

[3:07:44] with the bulldozer and cut down a bunch

[3:07:46] of trees and and did and they weren't

[3:07:49] supposed to do that. So they they think

[3:07:51] this is already a done deal. They've

[3:07:53] already

[3:07:54] » Thank you. Thank you for your testimony.

[3:07:56] Any other question, my council

[3:07:57] colleagues for public speaker? I I think

[3:08:00] we've got lots of questions for the the

[3:08:02] applicant. So thank you very much for

[3:08:04] for coming down. I want to invite the

[3:08:06] applicants representative uh back up to

[3:08:08] answer some of these questions.

[3:08:13] Welcome back, Miss Cedorf. I'm going to

[3:08:15] go ahead and probably turn this over to

[3:08:18] I think council president had some

[3:08:20] questions on water. So, I will turn it

[3:08:23] over to him.

[3:08:24] » Thank you. So, this conversation around

[3:08:27] um uh water water seepage leveling off

[3:08:30] compared to the adjacent properties. How

[3:08:33] can you just walk us through that part

[3:08:34] of the conversation in terms of

[3:08:35] development? Yeah. So, this property um

[3:08:38] grades from the highest point will be in

[3:08:40] the north point and it will grade down

[3:08:42] to the pond. I don't know if you could

[3:08:44] put the site plan back up. Um but the

[3:08:47] intent is and and as you know as part of

[3:08:49] the final site compliance plan, there's

[3:08:51] extensive engineering done um on this

[3:08:54] site from a storm water management

[3:08:56] control. We can't have our storm water

[3:08:59] leave the property in a way that hurts

[3:09:01] people downstream. So it will the site

[3:09:04] will be designed um by engineers to

[3:09:06] capture its storm water drainage and

[3:09:09] whatever it is required to do under the

[3:09:11] codes but the grade is from the north to

[3:09:14] the northwest to southeast. Um and

[3:09:16] there's a stream down at the bottom as

[3:09:18] well that's in a stream corridor

[3:09:19] protection zone. M

[3:09:21] » Missed. So, um, we've had a lot of we've

[3:09:24] had several of these cases here recently

[3:09:26] where storm water has been, I think, one

[3:09:27] of the primary concerns we've heard from

[3:09:29] some residents and I think it's somewhat

[3:09:31] of a frustrating answer for for them to

[3:09:33] hear that, oh, that comes later. Um, so,

[3:09:36] you know, for I know we don't have

[3:09:37] someone from the division of or the

[3:09:39] department of water and power here right

[3:09:40] now, but you could just walk us through

[3:09:42] sort of, you know, we have a zoning

[3:09:43] before us here tonight. You're an

[3:09:45] experienced zoning attorney. you just

[3:09:46] talk about sort of what comes next from

[3:09:48] a perspective of dealing with that that

[3:09:51] sort of watershed issue and particularly

[3:09:53] here when talked about the public

[3:09:54] speakers and I met with uh Mr. Levenson

[3:09:57] a couple weeks ago who is a neighbor who

[3:09:59] is very experienced in this area and you

[3:10:01] know his primary concerns were these

[3:10:02] environmental ones regarding u

[3:10:04] potentially you know what are streams

[3:10:07] what are wetlands and this does seem to

[3:10:09] be this is not just some random green

[3:10:11] field you know open space there is a lot

[3:10:13] here um so you could walk us through a

[3:10:16] little bit just about you know sort of

[3:10:17] the next steps um you know as you've had

[3:10:19] many you know clients go through this

[3:10:21] process before.

[3:10:22] » Sure. Yeah, just like any other site in

[3:10:24] the city of Columbus, um we obviously

[3:10:26] have this property had to be annexed and

[3:10:28] it has to be reszoned and then the next

[3:10:29] step after that is the final site

[3:10:31] compliance plan. And generally speaking,

[3:10:32] a lot of clients, this is just general,

[3:10:35] they um kind of do their engineering

[3:10:37] kind of sometimes it's with the the

[3:10:39] resoning or it's after the resoning, but

[3:10:42] it in this case it's like kind of in in

[3:10:44] conjunction and then we'll submit those

[3:10:45] plans to final site compliance, which is

[3:10:47] where we get our building permits and

[3:10:48] things like that. So, the site has been

[3:10:51] designed preliminarily with that all of

[3:10:53] those things in mind and with the with

[3:10:54] the requirements of the city of Columbus

[3:10:56] in mind. And we're also working with the

[3:10:58] Ohio or the um Ohio EPA and the Army

[3:11:01] Corps of Engineers um to get all uh

[3:11:03] there's a wetland delineation report

[3:11:05] that's been completed and submitted to

[3:11:07] those entities and we're working through

[3:11:09] um to get the proper permits whatever is

[3:11:11] required to move forward with

[3:11:13] development on this site. Um but we will

[3:11:15] follow all the rules and regulations. Um

[3:11:17] and all of those things will be

[3:11:18] addressed as part of this process. Um

[3:11:20] the reasonzoning while you as to deal

[3:11:23] with the use and and the site plan and

[3:11:25] everything like that, all of these

[3:11:26] things are kind of happening sometimes

[3:11:28] at the same time, sometimes things come

[3:11:30] later and we don't know those

[3:11:31] information. So it it's just a kind of a

[3:11:34] dance that we're trying to do. It's part

[3:11:35] of the development.

[3:11:36] » Thank you. Other questions for council

[3:11:38] members for the applicants?

[3:11:39] Representative.

[3:11:41] » I have a question for Ross. So, we're

[3:11:44] talking about the density and the 16.9

[3:11:47] versus the 16, which is what the

[3:11:49] community was asking for. How does that

[3:11:51] equate to actual units? So, you've

[3:11:52] already dropped 312 to 256. If you were

[3:11:55] to drop to a 16 unit per acre density,

[3:11:59] how many units does that?

[3:12:00] » Oh man, you're asking me to do math with

[3:12:02] that. I I don't know the answer to that

[3:12:05] off the top of my head. So,

[3:12:07] » I think I think if I'm doing math right,

[3:12:08] it's about 14 or 15

[3:12:10] » Because it's 15 acre site, correct?

[3:12:11] » Yes. Somewhere about there.

[3:12:12] » Yeah. So it's about 14 or 15.

[3:12:14] » Okay.

[3:12:14] » Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm just

[3:12:18] » Uh can you answer the question about the

[3:12:20] Well, I'll start with this question. Can

[3:12:23] you answer the question about the bus

[3:12:24] and the agreement? Is there a formal

[3:12:27] agreement? Is what what does that look

[3:12:29] like?

[3:12:29] » Yeah. So our client has spoken um with

[3:12:31] Dr. Miller, who's the superintendent of

[3:12:33] the Licking Heights School District, and

[3:12:34] they are amunable to having the buses

[3:12:36] come into the site. I don't know if we

[3:12:38] have like a formal agreement, but they

[3:12:40] have said that works for them and I

[3:12:43] don't know what if we we don't have any

[3:12:45] like something written in stone that

[3:12:46] says yes, we will drop the kids off

[3:12:48] there. But that that is we have worked

[3:12:50] with them on the routing and the

[3:12:51] different potential pickup points, but

[3:12:52] it has worked for them and they've

[3:12:54] seemed happy with that

[3:12:55] » And that and again the the plan would be

[3:12:57] the clubhouse is where

[3:12:59] » Yes. Yep. So yeah, there could be other

[3:13:01] places if it ends up working out the but

[3:13:03] yes, that's the the main point that we

[3:13:05] would think to pick up. So if I could

[3:13:07] ask our director Messer from just a a

[3:13:11] thinking about let's say we ask the Army

[3:13:14] Corps of Engineers to come in and they

[3:13:16] review it and they're like we cannot do

[3:13:19] this plan for whatever reason for the

[3:13:20] safety reason or something else then

[3:13:23] what what is our recourse? Do we can can

[3:13:27] you just answer that for the residents?

[3:13:29] » Sure I can answer that. Um essentially

[3:13:31] uh while that is a state process and

[3:13:34] isn't our local process, the local

[3:13:36] process is all dependent on those type

[3:13:38] of approvals. So there are very specific

[3:13:41] plans that the applicant would have to

[3:13:43] apply for um a storm water plan that

[3:13:46] would have to comply with not only state

[3:13:48] rules, but before it would ever be

[3:13:50] approved would have to comply with our

[3:13:52] local storm water manual. So

[3:13:54] essentially, it's all connected. I know

[3:13:56] we've talked about se sequential um

[3:13:58] things here, but they're all connected.

[3:14:00] So, you can't get a building permit to

[3:14:02] build anything until you've got your

[3:14:04] storm water and other site plans

[3:14:06] approved. And you can't get those

[3:14:08] approved until you get the state

[3:14:10] approval and none of it gets approved uh

[3:14:13] unless they get the zoning approved. So,

[3:14:15] it's all interconnected um and will be

[3:14:18] reviewed by the appropriate people um as

[3:14:21] has been mentioned. And and then just my

[3:14:24] last question, chair, the developer owns

[3:14:28] that land now, correct?

[3:14:29] » We have not closed on it yet. No.

[3:14:30] » Oh, you have not closed on it. What is

[3:14:32] happening to the land now?

[3:14:34] » There's been some as part of the um uh

[3:14:37] due diligence on the property. There's

[3:14:38] been a wetland mitigation study that's

[3:14:40] been done. So people, we have

[3:14:41] contractors who have gone out there. I I

[3:14:43] don't know spec I don't have specific

[3:14:45] knowledge of a bulldozer, but um but

[3:14:47] there have been people out there who

[3:14:48] have done studies on the land. So that's

[3:14:50] part of our due diligence.

[3:14:51] » Got it. Thank you.

[3:14:52] » COS,

[3:14:53] » There were thoughts that trees had

[3:14:55] already been removed. If there were

[3:14:56] trees removed, that wasn't done by your

[3:14:58] » I don't know. I don't know the answer to

[3:14:59] that.

[3:15:02] » Other council member Green.

[3:15:04] » Um so you are doing 200 you're proposing

[3:15:07] 256 units and then of those units um how

[3:15:11] many of them are you committing to uh be

[3:15:14] affordable and what what um income

[3:15:16] levels?

[3:15:17] » Yes. So we are um going to participate

[3:15:19] in the citywide CRA. So 30% of the units

[3:15:21] will be reserved for 80% AMI for 15

[3:15:24] years. So that's 77 of the 256 units.

[3:15:27] » Okay. And so you are that is the that is

[3:15:30] the plan not to take the fe. Correct.

[3:15:33] » Wonderful. And then um just a follow-up

[3:15:35] question for kind of similar uh to what

[3:15:37] council member Brosa Deodia was asking.

[3:15:39] I'm not sure if this is a developer

[3:15:41] question or a department question. Um

[3:15:43] when um Oh, Mr. Jay, I forgot your last

[3:15:47] name, but I do remember your friends

[3:15:49] call you Jay. And so there you go. When

[3:15:52] you were talking about um he was kind of

[3:15:55] talking about wellwater and he and um

[3:15:57] you know potential disruption to the

[3:15:59] wells. And this is something that I've

[3:16:01] been thinking a lot lately just in the

[3:16:02] conversations we're having also around

[3:16:04] data centers and environmental impact

[3:16:06] that caused by those developments and

[3:16:09] how they're you know we have seen

[3:16:12] suddenly people's wellwater coming up

[3:16:14] contaminated. So, like what are the

[3:16:16] legal steps if something like that were

[3:16:20] to happen? Like I'm assuming that there

[3:16:22] would be protections for surrounding

[3:16:23] property owners, you know, if soil

[3:16:25] disruption causes then issues related to

[3:16:28] wellwater or other type of, you know,

[3:16:31] challenges.

[3:16:34] Well, Council Member Green, I I think

[3:16:36] the best way I can answer that is

[3:16:37] obviously all of the approvals and all

[3:16:40] these submissions that are given to our

[3:16:42] department and apartments across the

[3:16:43] city are meant to avoid and and keep

[3:16:46] that from happening and that's why we

[3:16:47] have all the rules and regulations that

[3:16:49] have to be followed. So, uh, in the

[3:16:51] unlikely event that those rules and

[3:16:53] regulations aren't sufficient, then I

[3:16:56] believe, you know, it would be sort of a

[3:16:58] civil issue at that point of damages and

[3:17:01] those type of claims. There are times

[3:17:04] when sewer backups and things happen in

[3:17:06] this city and there are processes to

[3:17:08] deal with those um through the legal

[3:17:10] system.

[3:17:13] » Other questions for the applicant from

[3:17:15] my my colleagues?

[3:17:18] » See none. Thank you. Thank you.

[3:17:20] » Um do want to again thank both our folks

[3:17:23] in the air commission and residents that

[3:17:25] came down. I think as the council

[3:17:27] president mentioned, this is actually I

[3:17:29] sense the deep disappointment from the

[3:17:31] folks in the air commission. However,

[3:17:32] when we talk about there being three,

[3:17:34] you know, main points and two of them

[3:17:36] from my vantage point, I think are

[3:17:38] resolved. One is pretty close. Um, when

[3:17:40] we're talking about the difference

[3:17:41] between 16 and 16.9, um, I I think that

[3:17:45] is certainly not the same number, but

[3:17:47] we're talking about the difference

[3:17:48] between 13 or 14 or 15 units. We're not

[3:17:51] terribly far off with the

[3:17:52] acknowledgement of that 16, you know,

[3:17:54] unit per acre number is being set at

[3:17:56] prior developments within area. Um, that

[3:17:59] is certainly built before Columbus

[3:18:01] potentially was as growing as quickly as

[3:18:03] we are today. So to say that, you know,

[3:18:05] this is anything more than trying to see

[3:18:07] compromise take place between

[3:18:10] applicants, our area commissions, I

[3:18:12] think to council president's point, this

[3:18:14] is talking about shaping that process

[3:18:15] and shaping certainly a project. Um I

[3:18:19] think that is certainly something that

[3:18:21] we expect and certainly I think is alive

[3:18:22] and well and sort of part of the this

[3:18:25] system that we have in place. You know,

[3:18:27] this proposal received a approval from

[3:18:29] the development commission 50. Uh we're

[3:18:32] seeing traffic improvements uh

[3:18:33] particularly being made here. Uh the

[3:18:35] amount of housing that is particularly

[3:18:38] needed within this area that is

[3:18:39] primarily does not have many rental

[3:18:41] opportunities that currently are there.

[3:18:43] Um you know and I think at the end of

[3:18:45] the day when we're talking about um all

[3:18:48] of the things that we've had on the

[3:18:49] table I think with our prior speakers

[3:18:51] you know it's I know can ring ring

[3:18:53] somewhat hollow but so many of those

[3:18:54] things are handled through that storm

[3:18:56] water mitigation that's handled outside

[3:18:57] the council process. um that again if

[3:19:00] they can't comply with those development

[3:19:02] standards then they can't get their

[3:19:04] permits and they can't get built. Um

[3:19:06] that should not be necessarily a barrier

[3:19:07] to the zoning itself. Um which is why

[3:19:10] I'm in support of this piece of

[3:19:11] legislation and I move for passage by

[3:19:13] voice vote.

[3:19:16] » Please call the role by voice.

[3:19:18] » Bangston.

[3:19:18] » Yes.

[3:19:19] » Barbosa de Padilla.

[3:19:21] » I just want to echo to especially to our

[3:19:24] far east commissioners who I work with.

[3:19:26] I am a fellow eastsider and I certainly

[3:19:29] live in an area that is very unique that

[3:19:31] is, you know, a mix of apartments and a

[3:19:35] mix of homes and that's certainly the

[3:19:37] neighborhood that I grew up in and I

[3:19:39] think that in this particular project I

[3:19:41] do believe that the community and the

[3:19:43] commission made this project better

[3:19:45] which is what was a deciding factor for

[3:19:48] me. it would have not been. And I don't

[3:19:51] this is these are not decisions. I don't

[3:19:53] always come here I don't ever come here

[3:19:55] with my mind made up. I want to hear

[3:19:57] what people have to say. I want to hear

[3:19:59] what things make sense. You all have

[3:20:02] seen that I have voted no on things that

[3:20:03] don't make sense. And in this particular

[3:20:06] area, I think that you, like I said,

[3:20:08] have made this project better. And I

[3:20:11] think as it goes through the process, we

[3:20:13] will find out if it is yet to be seen if

[3:20:16] there are things that are not going to

[3:20:18] be suitable for the community. So that's

[3:20:21] why I'm a yes vote today. But I want to

[3:20:23] ensure that folks know that these

[3:20:25] conversations are incredibly important

[3:20:27] and hearing from the community and

[3:20:29] hearing from the commission, especially

[3:20:30] the Far East Commission who is part of

[3:20:32] the MAC. You have helped to develop and

[3:20:34] shape the east side. And so you should

[3:20:36] know that and know that there are going

[3:20:38] to be disappointments and we're not

[3:20:40] always going to see eye to eye, but you

[3:20:42] consistently make the city better

[3:20:44] because you push on people to meet the

[3:20:47] requirements that neighbors want and

[3:20:49] that you all want. And this is also a

[3:20:52] interesting one because it's annexed.

[3:20:54] And I think that this goes back to the

[3:20:57] original conversation that we were

[3:20:58] having before. This is a piece of

[3:21:00] Columbus that is also part of a piece of

[3:21:02] lots of different other areas. And so it

[3:21:05] makes it somewhat challenging, I will

[3:21:07] say, for myself to make these decisions

[3:21:10] when, you know, we're talking about some

[3:21:12] of our constituents and we're talking

[3:21:13] about folks who are not all our

[3:21:14] constituents. But when I think about

[3:21:17] where, again, having mixed neighborhoods

[3:21:20] that allow people a choice on where to

[3:21:22] live because everyone is not going to be

[3:21:24] able to afford a house, that is what

[3:21:26] helps to drive my decision-m, which is

[3:21:28] why I'm a yes vote today.

[3:21:32] » Deakau Yes,

[3:21:35] » Dorren.

[3:21:35] » Yes,

[3:21:36] » Green.

[3:21:37] » Yes,

[3:21:38] » Remy.

[3:21:39] » Yes,

[3:21:39] » Ross.

[3:21:40] » Yes,

[3:21:41] » White.

[3:21:41] » Yes,

[3:21:42] » President Harden.

[3:21:43] » Yes.

[3:21:45] » Thank you. Next, we have ordinance

[3:21:46] number 1284-2026

[3:21:48] to reszone 1695 Dwey Avenue being 2.29

[3:21:52] 29 plus acres located in the south side

[3:21:53] of Dwey Avenue at the southern terminus

[3:21:55] of Key West Avenue from M manufacturing

[3:21:57] district to R1 rural I'm sorry

[3:22:00] residential district to LM limited

[3:22:02] manufacturing district. This site

[3:22:04] consists of one undeveloped parcel

[3:22:06] splitzoned in the M manufacturing

[3:22:08] district and R1 residential district.

[3:22:10] The requested reszoning will allow the

[3:22:12] site to be redeveloped with a limited

[3:22:14] office uses and less objectional

[3:22:16] manufacturing uses. proposals approval

[3:22:18] from city staff and the development

[3:22:20] commission but a disapproval from the

[3:22:22] north central area commission. Due that

[3:22:23] disapproval we'll now hear a staff

[3:22:25] report from city staff starting with

[3:22:27] Miss Lissa Saltzman from Department of

[3:22:29] Building Zoning Services or actually

[3:22:31] pardon me it will actually be Tim

[3:22:32] Dietrich from the Department of Building

[3:22:33] Zoning Services. Thank you.

[3:22:35] » Thank you Chair Dorren President Hart

[3:22:36] members of council. Uh the requested LM

[3:22:39] limited manufacturing district will

[3:22:40] allow the site to be developed with

[3:22:42] limited office and less objectionable

[3:22:44] manufacturing uses as allowed with the

[3:22:47] submitted limitation text. North and

[3:22:49] west of the site are single-unit

[3:22:51] dwellings and undeveloped parcels in the

[3:22:52] R3 residential district. East of the

[3:22:55] site is an undeveloped portion of a

[3:22:57] parcel in the M district and the R1

[3:22:59] residential district. And south of the

[3:23:01] site is a recycling center in the M

[3:23:04] manufacturing district. The limitation

[3:23:06] text establishes use restrictions,

[3:23:09] limited limits the site to office uses

[3:23:11] and limited less objectionable

[3:23:13] manufacturing uses and include

[3:23:15] supplemental development standards

[3:23:16] addressing building and parking

[3:23:18] setbacks, site access, landscaping and

[3:23:20] screening and graphics with the

[3:23:23] limitation text including appropriate

[3:23:24] use restrictions and commitment and

[3:23:26] commitments to increase landscaping and

[3:23:28] screening from adjacent residential

[3:23:30] properties. Staff's recommendation is

[3:23:32] for approval.

[3:23:34] » Thank you. Uh any questions my council

[3:23:36] colleagues sir or Mr. Dietrich? Seeing

[3:23:39] none uh we will move to uh Mr. Lewis

[3:23:43] Taba from the division of planning.

[3:23:50] Uh thank you Chair Dorren, President

[3:23:52] Harden and members of council. Uh

[3:23:54] planning is supportive of the requested

[3:23:55] resoning. Staff notes the proposed use

[3:23:58] is consistent with the Columbus grow

[3:23:59] strategy, land use recommendation of

[3:24:02] industrial and warehouse at the site.

[3:24:05] Staff recognized that the commitments to

[3:24:07] landscaping and screening and the

[3:24:08] updated limitation text are consistent

[3:24:10] with Columbus growth strategy design

[3:24:12] guidelines. Therefore, planning is

[3:24:14] supportive of the request. Staff also

[3:24:17] notes that the land use recommendation

[3:24:19] was updated uh under the recent passage

[3:24:22] of the Columbus Growth Strategy on

[3:24:24] February 25th, 2026. it took effect. Uh

[3:24:27] we note that corresponding zoning as

[3:24:29] part of zone in economic and housing

[3:24:31] opportunity is still under

[3:24:32] consideration.

[3:24:34] » Thank you, Mr. Tick. Um so I mentioned

[3:24:36] in my comments that this the parcel that

[3:24:38] we're talking about reszoning here

[3:24:40] tonight is splitz zoned. Can you explain

[3:24:42] a little bit about what that exactly

[3:24:43] means and how that sort of interplays? A

[3:24:46] portion of that is zoned currently

[3:24:48] residential and a portion of it is

[3:24:49] currently zoned as manufacturing and

[3:24:51] sort of the acceptable uses currently

[3:24:53] that could be done under those zoning

[3:24:55] districts. And Mr. T, I don't know if

[3:24:57] that's a better question for Mr.

[3:24:58] Dietrich who's I believe nodding at me

[3:25:00] is a better question for him. So I'll

[3:25:02] throw that to you Tim.

[3:25:03] » Yes. So um it is splitzoned M

[3:25:06] manufacturing and R1 residential. R1 is

[3:25:09] a very restricted district. It allows a

[3:25:11] single unit dwelling. M allows basically

[3:25:14] everything under commercial and

[3:25:16] manufacturing properties. So, uh this

[3:25:20] would actually be a this requested LM is

[3:25:22] much more restrictive in the uses

[3:25:24] allowed for that portion of the site.

[3:25:27] » Thank you. Any questions my council

[3:25:29] colleagues?

[3:25:31] Seeing none, uh we will turn to Mr. Dan

[3:25:33] Blushman from the Division Traffic

[3:25:34] Management.

[3:25:36] » Thank you, Chair Dorren, President

[3:25:37] Harden, members of council. In regards

[3:25:40] to our review of this application,

[3:25:41] please be advised that with regards to

[3:25:44] the size of the site and the specific

[3:25:46] limitations of uses that are present

[3:25:49] within the proposed limitation text of

[3:25:51] this ordinance, there are no specific

[3:25:54] concerns with the proposed traffic

[3:25:55] volumes anticipated to be generated by

[3:25:58] this proposed development site. This

[3:26:00] proposed development site will be

[3:26:03] required to be limited to one access

[3:26:04] point to Dwey Avenue that would be

[3:26:06] anticipated to be in line with the

[3:26:08] intersection of Key West Avenue. With

[3:26:11] these comments noted, the Department of

[3:26:13] Public Service has no further concerns

[3:26:14] regarding this application. I'd be happy

[3:26:16] to answer any questions.

[3:26:18] » Any questions for Mr. Bushman?

[3:26:21] Seeing none, I'll invite the applicants

[3:26:23] uh and Representative Ford for

[3:26:24] presentation.

[3:26:35] Hello. Uh my name is uh Joe Clay uh with

[3:26:37] plan for land um chair president and uh

[3:26:40] members of council. We appreciate your

[3:26:41] time this evening. Um also like to have

[3:26:43] my uh my client and our applicant uh

[3:26:45] introduce himself as well.

[3:26:47] » Hi everyone. My name is Ali Beah.

[3:26:50] » So I I know we had shared a PowerPoint.

[3:26:52] Uh I believe you can see uh we uh wanted

[3:26:55] to kind of just walk through the

[3:26:56] application. Uh this site is uh staff's

[3:26:59] been great to work with. The

[3:27:00] neighborhood's uh been very uh very

[3:27:02] understanding in our application. Um we

[3:27:04] would like to talk through some of the

[3:27:06] noted concerns uh the neighborhood had

[3:27:08] in relationship to the use. Uh but we'd

[3:27:10] also like to kind of talk through why we

[3:27:11] think this uh this use was originally

[3:27:13] discussed uh in the nature it is. So uh

[3:27:16] this site uh is across the road from

[3:27:17] residential. Uh, one of the benefits we

[3:27:20] have with this more less impactful uh,

[3:27:22] low impact use of office warehouse is

[3:27:24] that we can set the use further back off

[3:27:26] the road and it can blend in more with

[3:27:28] the neighborhood. Um, one of the things

[3:27:30] I want to note before we go to the next

[3:27:31] slide is this uh, this back uh, area

[3:27:34] that's Rumy's recycling facility. Uh,

[3:27:36] it's not sense of scale there. It's much

[3:27:38] larger facility. Um, but that's just

[3:27:40] from the aerial photograph kind of

[3:27:41] showing the proximity to the footprint

[3:27:43] uh, of their facility uh, to this

[3:27:45] planned use. talk through the next

[3:27:48] slide. Uh so the uh do Oh, that's where

[3:27:51] the I advance. Okay, got it. So, um I

[3:27:54] want to talk a little bit about the

[3:27:55] heavy manufacturing in the back. Um my

[3:27:57] client's got an interest in building on

[3:27:58] the site uh what would be considered

[3:28:00] office warehouse type use. Uh we'd like

[3:28:03] to uh make uh use of the entire property

[3:28:06] uh while preserving that greenway

[3:28:08] corridor in the front. So, the low

[3:28:10] impact flex use uh seemed to fit the

[3:28:12] site a lot better and answer questions

[3:28:14] about what would be built in front of

[3:28:15] this. Uh tucking that type of use behind

[3:28:17] a single family residence there didn't

[3:28:19] seem to be too fitting for the uh for

[3:28:21] the overall access. Um the only access

[3:28:24] to this property is off of uh Dwey

[3:28:26] Avenue.

[3:28:28] The uh proposal has two buildings in it,

[3:28:30] single story, and we try to propose

[3:28:32] something that would fit the

[3:28:33] characteristics of the neighborhood. Uh

[3:28:35] ample setback. Um we're proposing a 50-

[3:28:38] foot set back off of uh the uh Dewey

[3:28:40] Avenue uh rightway. Uh part of that

[3:28:42] would be mound and shrubs. Uh and then

[3:28:45] the uh there's a uh screening uh

[3:28:48] proposed fence that's on the west side.

[3:28:50] Uh the retention basins on the on the

[3:28:53] east side. Uh that would uh be required

[3:28:55] to handle storm water on site, but also

[3:28:57] be an aesthetic uh that would provide a

[3:28:59] little bit more open space for this

[3:29:00] property.

[3:29:02] Uh the traditional office warehouse is

[3:29:04] is a flex use. Uh so the way that the

[3:29:07] manufacturing we try to indicate here

[3:29:09] it's heavy heavy industry manufacturing

[3:29:11] uses process and assemblies that would

[3:29:13] definitely be offensive to the

[3:29:15] neighborhood. Uh we'd like to propose uh

[3:29:17] this flex use and we worked with staff

[3:29:20] uh through the neighborhood uh as well

[3:29:22] try to identify uses that we feel like

[3:29:23] would be most appropriate for this site

[3:29:26] and uh as a result of that we feel like

[3:29:28] it's a very low intensity use across the

[3:29:31] spectrum. Um, as well the uh there'd be

[3:29:34] no outside storage. Uh, so that would be

[3:29:36] different from what you'd see in the

[3:29:37] manufacturing district and uh it would

[3:29:39] allow us to preserve ample amount of

[3:29:41] green space around the boundary of the

[3:29:43] property. Um, within the limited text,

[3:29:45] we're recommending binding landscaping

[3:29:47] commitments as well as binding setbacks

[3:29:49] and uh heavy use limitations.

[3:29:54] Uh so we we looked at Columbus zone in

[3:29:56] and we realized that was uh acknowledged

[3:29:58] and that in the future this property

[3:30:00] will be reszoned as part of the the

[3:30:01] Columbus zone in. Uh we feel that this

[3:30:03] modernizes the lot split and it's a

[3:30:06] thoughtful reinvestment in the property

[3:30:07] as it sits today. Uh these types of uses

[3:30:10] are small businesses. This isn't large

[3:30:12] industry. Uh this is something that

[3:30:14] would uh would definitely help provide

[3:30:16] uh jobs for the local neighborhood. And

[3:30:19] while there may be some opposition from

[3:30:20] the neighborhood today for this type of

[3:30:22] use, uh we realize that a lot of these

[3:30:24] are actually run by local people in the

[3:30:26] neighborhood. So, uh it's not something

[3:30:27] that people are driving in from out of

[3:30:29] town to typically run these type of

[3:30:31] outfits. And a lot of times they're out

[3:30:33] of sight, out of mind after build. Um

[3:30:34] this isn't a retail type of

[3:30:36] establishment. This isn't something that

[3:30:38] uh you're going to be trying to drive

[3:30:40] high traffic toward. Uh these type of

[3:30:42] uses tend to work really good as

[3:30:44] transitional uses between residential

[3:30:46] and manufacturing districts. So, uh,

[3:30:48] that's what we're recommending here. Um,

[3:30:50] we've, uh, take a look through zone in,

[3:30:52] and we feel like we're in keeping with

[3:30:54] the proposed spirit of what's gone

[3:30:56] through, uh, with that planning effort

[3:30:58] and proposed code amendments.

[3:31:01] Uh, there is building screening. This

[3:31:03] maybe, uh, highlights a little bit more

[3:31:04] the, uh, the earth and mound at the

[3:31:06] frontage. Um, we had some questions

[3:31:08] about access. Um, single access allows

[3:31:11] more landscaping across the frontage,

[3:31:12] allows for controlled uh, access to the

[3:31:14] property. Um this will not be attracting

[3:31:17] uh heavy truck traffic. Uh so the idea

[3:31:19] of turn radiuses and those type of

[3:31:21] things for this type of use is very

[3:31:22] minimal. Uh at most it would be a small

[3:31:24] box truck uh typically per use like once

[3:31:27] a week uh that would come in and deliver

[3:31:29] supplies that would then be uh taken out

[3:31:31] by depending on the use of individual

[3:31:33] users. Um and I'm sure you guys are

[3:31:35] familiar with office warehouse. won't go

[3:31:37] into too much there, but um we did try

[3:31:39] to take into consideration even the

[3:31:40] dumpster enclosure and items that would

[3:31:42] be pushed to the back of the site and

[3:31:43] the proposed design.

[3:31:45] Um I realize you're recommending a

[3:31:47] reszoning uh for a uh district with

[3:31:50] limitation text, but we are providing

[3:31:51] you a rendering of what's what's been

[3:31:53] proposed just so you have an idea of uh

[3:31:55] the character that they'd like to build

[3:31:56] on the site. Uh we feel like it'll serve

[3:31:59] the local community uh low impact and

[3:32:01] will create local jobs. Um Olly can uh

[3:32:04] offer any uh answers to questions you

[3:32:06] might have as well. Um since he's he's

[3:32:08] uh more intimate into the the business

[3:32:10] side of it. Um but as a site planner, I

[3:32:12] wanted to give you a little overview of

[3:32:13] what we had planned there. Um so the

[3:32:15] reasonzoning uh one of the things that

[3:32:17] we would like to say why we deserve the

[3:32:19] support be it's a less intense use and

[3:32:22] what the zoning already allows. Um it

[3:32:24] advances the uh the zone in goals that

[3:32:26] were already set out for the community

[3:32:28] and we realize that might bring change

[3:32:29] in the future. this will blend in well

[3:32:31] with with what's being proposed in the

[3:32:33] area. Uh and then uh it's real committed

[3:32:36] um protections for the uh for the

[3:32:38] neighbors as well. We're making specific

[3:32:40] investment um uh commitments uh within

[3:32:43] the text uh to make sure that those are

[3:32:45] upheld through the development process.

[3:32:47] Um, my client's been flexible in trying

[3:32:49] to understand what other type of

[3:32:51] commitments would be uh requested and I

[3:32:53] believe we worked with staff uh to try

[3:32:54] to understand exactly what their uh

[3:32:56] their concerns were and I believe we've

[3:32:58] addressed 100% of the concerns that were

[3:33:00] raised. Um, and it's a quiet local

[3:33:02] tradition uh transitional use. So, it's

[3:33:04] not one that's traditional of noise or

[3:33:06] um traffic impacts anything like so

[3:33:09] don't want to continue to reiterate

[3:33:10] those, but um happy to answer any

[3:33:12] questions you might have. Do you have

[3:33:13] anything? Uh, I just want to touch on

[3:33:16] two points. Um, I currently have a

[3:33:19] office space very similar to these

[3:33:22] spaces, which is a 200T office and a

[3:33:26] 3,000 ft warehouse. I'm in in the real

[3:33:29] estate business and I have a lot of um

[3:33:32] material that that is uh that I use

[3:33:35] regularly, whether it's ceiling fans or

[3:33:37] doors or or lumber. That's what I uh use

[3:33:41] it for, the warehouse side of it for.

[3:33:43] And um talking to my colleagues, I know

[3:33:46] there's a big demand uh for uh realtors

[3:33:49] that have staging equipment that they

[3:33:51] want to use. Um that's that's um and and

[3:33:57] my experience. I'm in my office maybe

[3:33:59] once a day, usually maybe two, three

[3:34:02] times a week. So it's not that I draw a

[3:34:04] lot of traffic. Sometimes I meet clients

[3:34:07] for um signing leases or agreements, but

[3:34:10] that's about it. Um, so I think there's

[3:34:13] a big demand for people like me, um,

[3:34:16] business owners that need storage space.

[3:34:18] Uh, the second thing that I want to

[3:34:20] touch on is, uh, from the beginning, um,

[3:34:23] we've gone to the community. We went

[3:34:25] with an open mind and we listened and we

[3:34:27] took notes and we went back and revised

[3:34:30] and revised and revised and revised.

[3:34:33] There's been zero push back as far as

[3:34:35] our end demanding something else. So, um

[3:34:38] I was a little bit surprised that that

[3:34:40] they turned us down because ultimately

[3:34:42] we listened and we uh implemented some

[3:34:45] of their uh concerns.

[3:34:48] » Uh any questions for the applicant or

[3:34:51] his representative this time?

[3:34:54] Council Green.

[3:34:57] » Thank you, Council President Prom. What

[3:34:59] kind of So, you said you're in real

[3:35:00] estate. I guess I'm just kind of my

[3:35:03] question was what other types of

[3:35:05] businesses would go in a space like

[3:35:06] this? Like what do you imagine it would

[3:35:08] be used for? Do you have a prospective

[3:35:10] tenant in mind already or

[3:35:12] » I I do not. Um um we're a little bit

[3:35:16] that's a little bit further down the

[3:35:17] line, but I know there's um some

[3:35:20] collectors from talking to other people

[3:35:21] that have flex spaces that they they uh

[3:35:24] attract collectors that they they like

[3:35:26] to collect items uh and they need a

[3:35:29] storage space. Um, I know talking to uh

[3:35:33] my flooring guy, he needs a similar

[3:35:35] space to to store it because he buys

[3:35:38] pallets of uh flooring at a time and he

[3:35:40] needs a place to store it even though he

[3:35:43] doesn't really you sell it as a retail

[3:35:45] but he needs a space to to so there's an

[3:35:48] extension of real estate that everybody

[3:35:50] you know you you you buy bulk you save.

[3:35:52] So we having a space like that really is

[3:35:56] is helpful. I could answer. We we have a

[3:35:59] lot of these developments that we've

[3:36:00] done over the years as well. Uh what we

[3:36:02] tend to see uh happen is small business.

[3:36:04] Uh it's a lot of times people are out

[3:36:06] going owning their garage. They have a

[3:36:07] home occupation. They need somewhere cuz

[3:36:10] zoning's kicking them out. Uh they need

[3:36:11] somewhere to run their business. Uh that

[3:36:13] can allow them to expand before they get

[3:36:15] their own space. Uh in other cases, it's

[3:36:18] uh Ohio Health and Cardinal. Um they use

[3:36:21] these for their suppliers uh to be able

[3:36:23] to sort and distribute um to local

[3:36:25] hospitals. Uh so a lot of times they'll

[3:36:27] bring in and uh try to uh repackage and

[3:36:31] serve a local uh local business. Uh so

[3:36:34] just as an example, uh those type of

[3:36:37] uses would be kind of fitting the office

[3:36:39] warehouse type. Um I've also seen

[3:36:41] realtors use them. Uh they store their

[3:36:42] signs in the back, they they have their

[3:36:44] office in the front, and um they're low

[3:36:46] impact. That's it's usually uh uh one or

[3:36:49] two trips in per per week. um they'll go

[3:36:51] to title offices for their closing but

[3:36:53] they need somewhere to store their real

[3:36:55] estate signs and office like this works

[3:36:57] out really well.

[3:36:59] » So um two questions. So one, how many

[3:37:02] times you meet with folks from the

[3:37:03] immediate neighborhoods of the civic

[3:37:04] association? Then how many times uh did

[3:37:06] you all meet with the area commission?

[3:37:09] » I believe we had three meetings.

[3:37:11] » I think it was four, but I I couldn't

[3:37:13] tell you the names of them. Just just we

[3:37:15] went I collectively went to four.

[3:37:17] » Right. And I know there's been a lot of

[3:37:19] concessions made. you mentioned around

[3:37:21] sort of limitations. So, what are some

[3:37:23] of the types of businesses that cannot

[3:37:25] be located based upon the limitation

[3:37:27] text that you've agreed to at this

[3:37:28] point?

[3:37:28] » Yeah, I think there was uh some uh push

[3:37:30] back on some of the uh those might be

[3:37:33] working with heavier metals or heavier

[3:37:35] woods. We went to small wood and metal

[3:37:37] products, but um I think those were some

[3:37:40] of the limitations that came out. Um a

[3:37:41] lot of dealing with uh hazardous

[3:37:43] material was one of the things that came

[3:37:45] up. uh storage um in the front or

[3:37:49] outside the units was one of the

[3:37:51] concerns. Uh safety was one of the

[3:37:53] concerns because uh um they wanted more

[3:37:56] lighting, security cameras. Um that was

[3:37:58] one of the concerns. Setbacks are was

[3:38:01] some of the concerns. Um yeah, setbacks

[3:38:03] were a larger one. Um the fence was

[3:38:05] extended uh down the uh the west side or

[3:38:08] the east west side of the property uh to

[3:38:11] fully screen the site. Um we previously

[3:38:13] just screened the residential component.

[3:38:15] Um but it was agreed to screen the

[3:38:17] entirety uh of the western border. So

[3:38:19] that was extended back. Uh but the

[3:38:21] setbacks off the front were also

[3:38:22] extended to ensure that uh nothing was

[3:38:24] built within 50 ft um building wise and

[3:38:27] then even the mound area was preserved.

[3:38:29] So I think it was a 30-foot setback for

[3:38:31] parking in the front.

[3:38:33] » Thank you. Any other questions from my

[3:38:35] council colleagues for the applicant on

[3:38:36] the road? Seeing none. Thank you both.

[3:38:38] I'll invite you up after public

[3:38:39] testimony.

[3:38:40] » Thank you. Uh the first speaker we have

[3:38:42] to come for council is uh North Central

[3:38:44] Air Commissioner Christina Harrison.

[3:38:46] Commissioner.

[3:38:52] I think we have Commissioner Williams.

[3:39:00] » Commissioner, welcome to council. Thank

[3:39:02] you.

[3:39:09] » Good evening everyone.

[3:39:14] Um so here this this evening to speak in

[3:39:18] opposition on behalf of my

[3:39:23] sorry about that on behalf of my

[3:39:24] community. Um to be fair um they did

[3:39:27] come out to our civic association twice.

[3:39:29] they had the area commission meeting um

[3:39:32] and then zoning. So those were the

[3:39:34] accounts of the various meetings that

[3:39:35] took place because they did not they

[3:39:39] came out of order. So that's the reason

[3:39:41] why there were additional meetings. So I

[3:39:43] just wanted to clear that point up. Um

[3:39:47] but American Edition as a whole was

[3:39:50] opposed um to the proposed reszoning of

[3:39:53] the 1695 Dewey Avenue property um into a

[3:39:56] limited manufacturing into a limited

[3:39:58] manufacturing district. Um

[3:40:02] we have been working really hard, very

[3:40:03] diligently to maintain and build up our

[3:40:07] community into a residential space. Um

[3:40:10] if you're familiar with the community,

[3:40:11] it's very close, small, and tightknit.

[3:40:14] Um and then especially on that end of

[3:40:16] Dwey that goes out to be clear um the

[3:40:20] fencing that is there was put up by

[3:40:23] Rumkey. Um I actually sat on that

[3:40:25] planning and development board when they

[3:40:27] built the new Rumkey facility and so

[3:40:30] they do not have any operations that is

[3:40:32] on the side of the property that goes

[3:40:34] along Dwey. So it doesn't disturb the

[3:40:37] church nor the residents that reside

[3:40:39] over there.

[3:40:40] Um, so I wanted to kind of be clear

[3:40:43] about that as well. Um,

[3:40:48] we as a neighborhood have been working

[3:40:50] really close with the city as a whole um

[3:40:52] to kind of advance the be the vision of

[3:40:55] being a net zero community. Um, and

[3:40:58] we've been participating in air quality

[3:41:00] control studies with an innovation team

[3:41:03] and working to maintain our

[3:41:05] neighborhood. As you know, that

[3:41:07] particular area is surrounded by

[3:41:10] pollutants and manufacturing um that

[3:41:12] we've been trying to limit and keep

[3:41:14] residential residential to build up the

[3:41:17] community.

[3:41:18] Um

[3:41:21] we're concerned about the impacts.

[3:41:23] They're saying there's not going to be

[3:41:24] additional like that much additional

[3:41:26] traffic, but if your intent is to rent

[3:41:28] out those various spaces to other

[3:41:30] businesses, there's definitely going to

[3:41:32] be traffic um increased in that area.

[3:41:36] And we've been working with Homeport to

[3:41:38] again build up that community. They're

[3:41:41] on schedule to build 24 additional homes

[3:41:43] and they are going to be particularly on

[3:41:46] Key West and Puritan which go right up

[3:41:48] to the proposed site. Um, to be honest,

[3:41:52] we're all working on affordable housing.

[3:41:55] Um, but just because it's affordable

[3:41:57] doesn't mean someone wants to take it.

[3:41:59] And with it being next to more

[3:42:02] manufacturing, I think that would be a

[3:42:04] deterrent uh for someone that was

[3:42:06] wanting to buy a home. Um, so I'm out

[3:42:10] here just speaking for the behalf of our

[3:42:12] residents. When they did come to the

[3:42:14] civic association, it was voted down 21

[3:42:18] no. the per there was an person that

[3:42:21] abstained and then one person that was

[3:42:24] in support of it. So, the neighborhood

[3:42:26] as a whole alarmingly was against the

[3:42:29] project. Um,

[3:42:34] but my biggest thing is again to fight

[3:42:37] for our residents for the health and

[3:42:39] safety and the well-being of all of our

[3:42:42] residents. And it was just a clear

[3:42:44] resounding no from the neighborhood at

[3:42:46] large. Um, and again, I mean, I will say

[3:42:50] we try to work with them in regards to

[3:42:53] some of the limitations, but we want

[3:42:56] residential to remain residential and

[3:42:58] bring homes into this community. We're a

[3:43:02] familyoriented, close-knit neighborhood.

[3:43:05] We want to remain as such. Um, we're not

[3:43:08] opposed to business as a whole, but when

[3:43:11] you're having a space that is going to

[3:43:15] increase the traffic where it's going

[3:43:18] you're planning on renting out different

[3:43:19] parts of this property. I I just don't

[3:43:23] think it's a great idea. And in addition

[3:43:25] to where the property is going to have

[3:43:27] one in front of the other and based on

[3:43:30] the dimension, I don't see how it

[3:43:32] honestly going to fit because there's

[3:43:33] homes directly across the street from

[3:43:36] this proposed property. Um, but in

[3:43:39] closing, I'm here in represent, you

[3:43:41] know, to represent for my neighbors and

[3:43:43] my community and be their voice and the

[3:43:46] community as a whole was not for this

[3:43:49] project.

[3:43:50] » Thank you, Commissioner Williams. one I

[3:43:52] I wanted to ask you you a question and I

[3:43:54] understand it may be uh difficult to

[3:43:57] speak on this whether on behalf of the

[3:43:59] commission and whether or not you want

[3:44:01] to give your own opinion that certainly

[3:44:03] up to you and I don't want to push you

[3:44:04] on the spot you know the the way that I

[3:44:05] sort of view this application coming

[3:44:07] through it's somewhat unique right in

[3:44:09] the sense of we've got part of it that's

[3:44:11] currently zoned residential and I

[3:44:13] certainly understand the work that you

[3:44:14] and so many folks have done about

[3:44:16] wanting to build up more housing

[3:44:17] opportunities for folks in American

[3:44:19] edition particularly ownership

[3:44:20] opportunities that has you really been

[3:44:22] such a great partnership with Homeport

[3:44:23] and with others. Um, but then the other

[3:44:26] part of the property is zoned, you know,

[3:44:27] manufactured right now and that part of

[3:44:30] the property could could be developed in

[3:44:31] a way that would make that other portion

[3:44:33] that is currently zone residential u be

[3:44:35] developed in a manner that without this

[3:44:37] body taking a vote one way or the other

[3:44:39] because that's just the way it's zoned

[3:44:40] right now. that that would make it

[3:44:42] particularly unattractive for folks to

[3:44:44] want to build residential on the portion

[3:44:47] of that property and would potentially

[3:44:49] have a you know even bigger impact on

[3:44:51] the folks across the street or down the

[3:44:53] street. So for me you know I sort of

[3:44:54] view this you know and again I'm

[3:44:56] speaking myself and whether or not you

[3:44:58] want to you speak to this all is

[3:44:59] certainly up to you. You know it does

[3:45:01] seem like a good transition away from

[3:45:04] that sort of heavier manufacturing. Now,

[3:45:06] I understand your point about Rumkey uh

[3:45:08] not having as much on that property line

[3:45:10] and that was sort of intentional with

[3:45:11] with you all working with them over the

[3:45:12] years and a very sort of intentional

[3:45:13] choice made, but

[3:45:16] this does strike me as a way to sort of

[3:45:18] bring that transition with the

[3:45:19] limitations that you all worked with

[3:45:20] them on. uh considering that part of the

[3:45:22] property right now um you know if we

[3:45:24] were to vote this down today, you know,

[3:45:26] someone could buy that that parcel and

[3:45:29] put lots of things there that I think

[3:45:31] the neighborhood would say that's not

[3:45:33] good for attracting new residents to to

[3:45:35] our community. So, you know, that is

[3:45:37] just the sort of the framework that I'm

[3:45:38] using when I evaluate this and I just

[3:45:39] wanted to give you as an opportunity.

[3:45:41] There's been a lot of meetings about

[3:45:42] this just to respond to that.

[3:45:44] No, I totally wholeheartedly understand

[3:45:46] where you're coming from and that was

[3:45:48] part of the conversation because like

[3:45:50] you said, part of it is own

[3:45:51] manufacturing and they can pretty much

[3:45:54] with manufacturing can pretty much do

[3:45:55] anything, right? Um, and we are kind of

[3:45:58] directly experiencing that because

[3:46:00] directly across the street on Joyce

[3:46:01] Avenue, there is a monstrosity of a

[3:46:03] project that's getting built and it's

[3:46:04] technically South London and it was

[3:46:07] zoned appropriately. So, they didn't

[3:46:08] have to come to any commission. even the

[3:46:10] people in South London are not aware of

[3:46:12] what is actually being [clears throat]

[3:46:13] built and it's infecting affecting the

[3:46:15] American edition community. So, um I

[3:46:19] totally get that aspect and as a

[3:46:23] community we are concerned about it. Um

[3:46:25] I will say you know we did work out with

[3:46:27] some of the limitations

[3:46:29] and if question to you guys if it was

[3:46:32] approved and this is they put forth

[3:46:35] these limitations will these limitations

[3:46:38] carry over to when this property is

[3:46:40] sold?

[3:46:40] » It will.

[3:46:42] » Okay.

[3:46:42] » Yeah. The any limitations within the

[3:46:44] text bind over from the zoning? So if

[3:46:46] they were to sell that tomorrow um or a

[3:46:49] year from now or 10 years from now uh

[3:46:51] anything that has been limited in sort

[3:46:53] of this discussion, no one could

[3:46:55] operate, you know, a business or

[3:46:56] anything that would violate those

[3:46:58] restrictions. If they did, that would

[3:46:59] then be a zoning violation. And our good

[3:47:02] folks at the Department of Building

[3:47:03] Zoning Services would issue them, you

[3:47:05] know, a violation and they they either

[3:47:07] have to clean it up or we go shut them

[3:47:08] down.

[3:47:09] » Oh, I know. Danielle and I we're we're

[3:47:11] like this. I put all in 311. [laughter]

[3:47:15] But yes, um we have considered this, but

[3:47:18] again, I am,

[3:47:20] » You know, the community wanted me to

[3:47:22] voice their concerns and that's what I'm

[3:47:23] here to do.

[3:47:24] » Yeah.

[3:47:25] » And it was unfortunate, it was a

[3:47:27] resounding no. We only had one in favor

[3:47:31] and one individual opposed.

[3:47:33] » Yeah. And I certainly

[3:47:34] » Mean, excuse me, abstain.

[3:47:35] » Yeah. And I appreciate that. I guess uh

[3:47:38] and I certainly understand folks, you

[3:47:41] know, interest in in again putting their

[3:47:44] energies into what they um you want to

[3:47:47] see more from a residential standpoint

[3:47:49] develop in that area because that has

[3:47:50] been so much of the focus. Um so I just

[3:47:53] wanted to give you an opportunity to

[3:47:54] sort of speak to um that other aspect of

[3:47:56] from somebody from the outside looking

[3:47:58] in about what else could happen if if

[3:48:00] this body chose to say no to this and

[3:48:03] then something else would come up down

[3:48:04] the line. But I did want to pause and

[3:48:06] see if any of my council colleagues had

[3:48:07] any other questions or questions they

[3:48:09] have for Miss Williams.

[3:48:11] » You're going to bring the applicant back

[3:48:12] up, right? Or no,

[3:48:13] » We have a couple more public speakers

[3:48:15] and then I will bring the applicant back

[3:48:17] on up Ross.

[3:48:19] » I just have a point of a point of

[3:48:20] clarification because it's uh it's not

[3:48:23] often that I will agree with the

[3:48:25] residential zoning being taken away in

[3:48:28] favor of less housing for manufacturing.

[3:48:31] Um, but I heard that the growth

[3:48:34] strategy, which presumably was opined on

[3:48:38] by the community, is going to change

[3:48:41] this to all light use manufacturing at

[3:48:46] some point. This entire both parcels,

[3:48:49] both the residential parcel and the

[3:48:51] manufacturing parcel.

[3:48:52] » Correct. And I can certainly defer to

[3:48:54] Mr. Taba about what that would look

[3:48:57] like. So uh again the the land use

[3:48:59] recommendation from the grocery changed

[3:49:02] again just to make sure that everyone's

[3:49:03] following with us the recommendation

[3:49:05] changed but the zoning did not change.

[3:49:07] So the zoning would potentially change

[3:49:09] in a future phase of zone in which has

[3:49:10] not happened yet.

[3:49:11] » Okay.

[3:49:12] » So again you would that recommendation

[3:49:14] would be as part of what would go into

[3:49:16] that that future phase. Um but not

[3:49:19] necessarily at this point you know

[3:49:20] that's to do this now you still need a

[3:49:23] reasonzoning from from this body. Mr.

[3:49:25] TA.

[3:49:28] » Yeah, that is that is correct. Um, so we

[3:49:32] did uh community outreach and engagement

[3:49:34] as part of the Columbus growth strategy.

[3:49:36] Uh, this was adopted as part of the

[3:49:38] Columbus growth strategy as industrial

[3:49:40] and warehouse. Uh, we have not uh

[3:49:43] crafted or determined what will be the

[3:49:45] proposed zoning district for this area.

[3:49:47] It will be some form of industrial uh at

[3:49:50] which point in time we will be coming

[3:49:51] out to the community to do engagement,

[3:49:54] community education engagement, meet

[3:49:56] with the community, have our gallery to

[3:49:57] determine what is the appropriate zoning

[3:50:00] district for this parcel. But the uh

[3:50:04] growth strategy does uh recommend

[3:50:07] industrial warehouse for both the

[3:50:09] northern portion and the southern

[3:50:11] portion of the parcel.

[3:50:14] » Okay. Sure. So they want to propose an

[3:50:18] industrial in an area that we're

[3:50:19] investing a lot of money into being a

[3:50:21] net zero community and we're surrounded

[3:50:25] by terrible air quality as we're doing

[3:50:27] an air quality study right now. Um our

[3:50:29] community has been plagued for years

[3:50:31] with manufacturing industrial issues um

[3:50:34] and just the health, safety and

[3:50:35] well-being of the community as a whole

[3:50:38] between North Central and Lyndon. Um, as

[3:50:42] you see, we're surrounded by whether

[3:50:45] it's used car places,

[3:50:48] uh, junkyards, salvage yards, we're

[3:50:51] surrounded by it all. And we're trying

[3:50:52] to up a community, invest millions of

[3:50:56] dollars. And then it's still affecting

[3:50:58] the health of individuals as you know a

[3:51:01] lot of the residents in American edition

[3:51:05] Lindale community

[3:51:07] um unfortunately who have lived their

[3:51:09] lives and spent their lives in that

[3:51:11] community a lot of those older residents

[3:51:12] have passed away from cancers and things

[3:51:15] a lot of health issues. So, we're just

[3:51:18] trying to do what is best for the

[3:51:20] residents at whole. M

[3:51:22] » Mr. Mr. Chair, just just a point of

[3:51:24] clarification there and I will give you

[3:51:26] all credit, Madame uh Commissioner,

[3:51:28] because when we talk about that zoning

[3:51:31] distinction of manufacturing, what this

[3:51:34] is is limited manufacturing. So, I know

[3:51:36] it sounds like weird because it's still

[3:51:38] manufacturing, but it's really going to

[3:51:40] be more of an office type of use. And

[3:51:41] that's because of the limitations that

[3:51:43] you all negotiated to put in there. So I

[3:51:45] just want to clarify those limitations

[3:51:47] that you all oppose upon them that they

[3:51:50] came to the table and agreed to will

[3:51:52] stay with this property in perpetuity,

[3:51:55] right? Unless someone comes and we're

[3:51:58] not here to vote that. But what's before

[3:52:01] us I think is the limitation that you

[3:52:03] all put on it as a use. So is that am I

[3:52:05] getting that clear, Mr. Chair? I just

[3:52:07] want to make sure and I just wanted to

[3:52:09] give you credit for stepping up for your

[3:52:11] community to put in those limitations.

[3:52:14] » Thank you. Any

[3:52:16] other questions for Commissioner

[3:52:17] Williams?

[3:52:19] » Thank you so much for being here.

[3:52:21] » Great to see you.

[3:52:22] » Um, we do have a number of other public

[3:52:25] speakers. The first is I bet Kelson.

[3:52:39] » Welcome to council.

[3:52:40] » Hello everybody. I'm a little nervous.

[3:52:43] Um, good evening everyone and I just

[3:52:45] want to thank you all for being here and

[3:52:46] giving us your time and for the awesome

[3:52:49] work that you do for the neighborhood.

[3:52:50] Um, I wrote something up because that's

[3:52:52] a little bit easier for me. So, I'll

[3:52:54] just go through that briefly. So, March

[3:52:56] 2026, our community came together to

[3:52:59] provide input on this proposed variance

[3:53:01] and the message was clear. All but one

[3:53:05] part participant uh voted against the

[3:53:07] proposal. This is a residential

[3:53:09] neighborhood and residents do not want

[3:53:11] another manufacturing facility,

[3:53:13] additional warehouses or industrial uses

[3:53:16] placed within our community. We have

[3:53:18] worked hard to build and maintain a

[3:53:20] neighborhood where families can live,

[3:53:22] children can play, and residents can

[3:53:24] enjoy their peace and stability.

[3:53:27] Manufacturing and industrial expansion

[3:53:29] does not belong in our backyards. Please

[3:53:31] vote no. Our concerns are heightened by

[3:53:34] the fact that there are two extremely

[3:53:36] large warehouses that are currently

[3:53:38] being built on Joyce Avenue. One is over

[3:53:40] 200,000 square feet and the second one

[3:53:43] is 300,000 square ft over that. Just

[3:53:46] outside of our neighborhood, these

[3:53:48] developments will bring increased

[3:53:49] traffic, congestion, noise, and

[3:53:51] environmental impacts to an area that is

[3:53:53] already heavily burdened. Our

[3:53:56] neighborhood is surrounded by industrial

[3:53:58] businesses and residents are already

[3:54:00] dealing with um the air pollution and

[3:54:02] the negative effects that come with the

[3:54:04] industrial activity. Now, mind you, when

[3:54:06] most of us moved there, Rumkey was not

[3:54:08] there. These two extremely large

[3:54:10] warehouses were not there. Um the

[3:54:13] [clears throat] junkyards were already

[3:54:14] there. Palascalite down the street was

[3:54:16] already there. So, all of this extra

[3:54:19] industrial was definitely we didn't know

[3:54:21] it was coming. Adding these

[3:54:23] manufacturing uses closer to our homes

[3:54:25] will only worsen these existing

[3:54:27] challenges while creating additional

[3:54:29] concerns about safety, quality of life,

[3:54:32] and increased activity from

[3:54:33] non-residents entering our community.

[3:54:35] So, please vote no. Um, to piggyback on

[3:54:38] what Miss Council Member Green had spoke

[3:54:41] about about the businesses that are

[3:54:43] going to be there. There's two

[3:54:44] warehouses and each of them can hold

[3:54:45] five businesses. So, that's a total of

[3:54:47] 10. He plans to take over one or two of

[3:54:50] them. So the others will be rented out.

[3:54:53] We're not sure what businesses are going

[3:54:54] to be there. We're only talking

[3:54:56] hypotheticals. So we don't know. Um we

[3:54:58] don't know how long those terms are

[3:55:00] going to be. So additional people will

[3:55:01] be coming in and out of our

[3:55:03] neighborhood. Now we are aware that we

[3:55:05] have Rumpky and the other warehouses,

[3:55:07] but they're on Joyce and they're on the

[3:55:09] outskirts of our neighborhood. This is

[3:55:11] coming directly into it. So that's a

[3:55:13] little bit different. You know, you kind

[3:55:15] of bypass it going down Joyce, but now

[3:55:17] they're going into the neighborhood.

[3:55:19] This issue is more uh than one project

[3:55:22] or one property. It's about the future

[3:55:24] direction of our community. The American

[3:55:27] Edition neighborhood was built on a

[3:55:29] foundation of history, resilience, and

[3:55:32] prosperity. Our homes are not storage

[3:55:34] spaces, warehouses, or locations for

[3:55:38] future industrial ventures.

[3:55:40] Manufacturing facilities do not fit into

[3:55:42] the character and the aesthetics or

[3:55:44] purpose of our neighborhood. Our

[3:55:46] community deserves thoughtful planning

[3:55:47] and support uh that supports families,

[3:55:50] seniors, children, homeowners, and

[3:55:52] renters. We need development that

[3:55:54] enhances the quality of life, not

[3:55:57] development that adds more burdens to

[3:55:58] neighborhoods that are already carrying

[3:56:00] the consequences of heavy industrial

[3:56:03] growth. Stand with us to protect our

[3:56:05] community, preserve our residential

[3:56:06] character, and safeguard the future of

[3:56:09] our neighborhood. Please vote no.

[3:56:11] » Thank you. Any questions for my

[3:56:14] colleagues for the public speaker?

[3:56:16] Council.

[3:56:18] » So, thank you for being here and for

[3:56:20] your advocacy. I know it feels

[3:56:22] nerve-wracking to get up and speak, but

[3:56:23] we're good.

[3:56:24] » You did great.

[3:56:25] » Um,

[3:56:26] just talking through the potential

[3:56:28] options of what could be there, right?

[3:56:30] » Yes.

[3:56:31] » Could be an office, right? It could be a

[3:56:33] real estate office that someone is

[3:56:34] storing their things or meeting with

[3:56:36] clients. Do you think that is

[3:56:38] detrimental to the neighborhood or does

[3:56:39] that give residents who may live in the

[3:56:41] area the opportunity to have office

[3:56:44] space nearby?

[3:56:45] » Uh well, if you look at the drawings

[3:56:47] that he had, those were not office

[3:56:49] spaces. It's more warehouse. There's

[3:56:50] going to be a large garage doors in the

[3:56:52] back so they can bring trucks to unload

[3:56:55] and load what we don't know. All of this

[3:56:57] is hypothetical businesses. Uh they may

[3:57:00] build it and decide to sell it. So then

[3:57:01] we don't know what the future uh

[3:57:03] [cough and laughter] owner is going to

[3:57:04] do. So, no one really knows what's going

[3:57:06] to be there, but what we do know that it

[3:57:08] can be up to 10 businesses, random

[3:57:10] businesses, uh, which will increase the

[3:57:12] traffic. Um, we we like the fact that

[3:57:14] we're kind of tucked away even though we

[3:57:16] aren't. There's kind of trees that

[3:57:18] divide us from the main street of Joyce.

[3:57:20] Um, but nonetheless, they'll be coming

[3:57:22] into the neighborhood. And so, we can't

[3:57:24] predict what will come with that. So,

[3:57:26] that's what really concerns me. We don't

[3:57:28] know what's coming. Yeah, we know a

[3:57:30] building is coming, but we don't know

[3:57:31] what's going to be in the building,

[3:57:32] who's going to be there. they'll be in

[3:57:35] the neighborhood opposed to the

[3:57:36] outskirts of it. So, that's really a

[3:57:38] concern.

[3:57:39] » Do the limitations that are being placed

[3:57:41] on the property make any difference to

[3:57:43] you at all in terms of knowing that at a

[3:57:46] minimum it won't be heavy industrial or

[3:57:48] heavy manufacturing happening at that

[3:57:50] site?

[3:57:51] » Not really. And I say that only because

[3:57:53] again the safety of the neighborhood,

[3:57:55] the people that'll be coming in and it's

[3:57:58] already we have enough industrial, you

[3:58:00] know, once those two warehouses get

[3:58:03] going, the traffic is going to increase.

[3:58:05] There's literally only two lanes, so

[3:58:07] there's no middle lane to bypass

[3:58:08] anything. We do have accidents that are

[3:58:11] on uh 5th and 12th, and there's been

[3:58:14] accidents that have been on Woodford and

[3:58:17] uh Joyce Joyce. Yes. on. And so with

[3:58:20] that being said, it's just going to be

[3:58:21] increased traffic. Um we don't know what

[3:58:23] his hours are going to be. It's not

[3:58:25] gated. If it was gated, that would be

[3:58:26] nice to, you know, after 10 o'clock,

[3:58:28] there won't be any additional traffic.

[3:58:30] That's just a safety measure that can be

[3:58:31] proposed. I don't know. Um but it's just

[3:58:34] going to be more traffic coming in and

[3:58:36] out. Once those warehouses get built,

[3:58:38] it's going to be crazy on Joyce. And

[3:58:40] it's already kind of crazy now, but it's

[3:58:42] just going to get worse.

[3:58:44] » Appreciate it. Thank you. Other

[3:58:47] question, my colleagues?

[3:58:50] Thank you. Um, we do have a couple other

[3:58:53] speakers. Uh, Mr. Frank Brown. Mr.

[3:58:55] Brown, welcome to council.

[3:59:11] President Harding,

[3:59:13] members of city council, good evening.

[3:59:15] My name is Frank Brown, living in

[3:59:17] American edition.

[3:59:19] I'm here today to express my opposition

[3:59:21] to the approval of any new manufacturing

[3:59:24] facilities, warehouse, storage

[3:59:26] facilities within the community, the

[3:59:28] Dwey project.

[3:59:30] And I also ask you to vote no.

[3:59:34] Our neighbor has already absorbed a

[3:59:36] significant amount of industrial and

[3:59:38] junkyard related development. As

[3:59:40] mentioned earlier,

[3:59:42] additional facilities will increase

[3:59:44] truck traffic, congestion, noise, air

[3:59:48] emissions, which we already have, and

[3:59:50] where our local infrastructure. These

[3:59:53] impacts directly affect residents

[3:59:55] quality of life and can diminish the

[3:59:57] character of our great community. Again,

[4:00:00] vote no.

[4:00:03] While economic development is important,

[4:00:05] growth should be balanced on the

[4:00:06] alignment of the needs of the residents

[4:00:08] and the community. Continue expansion of

[4:00:12] manufacturing and storage facilities

[4:00:14] risk concentrating industrial activity

[4:00:16] in areas that should be prop prioritized

[4:00:20] for housing, parks, small businesses,

[4:00:23] and community service.

[4:00:28] Other issues are enhanced to

[4:00:32] other issu other uses is to enhance

[4:00:35] neighborhood liabilities. We know that

[4:00:38] it's zone manufacturing has been like

[4:00:40] for many years matter of fact over

[4:00:43] several years.

[4:00:46] We also know why red lining

[4:00:50] and by the way it still exists in our

[4:00:51] community. My wife, my niece are fourth

[4:00:54] and fifth generational residents,

[4:00:56] homeowners in American edition. I

[4:00:59] respectfully ask the city council to

[4:01:01] consider long term to to consider the

[4:01:05] long-term impact of additional

[4:01:06] industrial and warehouse development to

[4:01:08] be placing greater emphasis on

[4:01:10] protecting public's health, safety,

[4:01:12] environmental quality, and property

[4:01:14] values. Residents deserve meaningful

[4:01:17] input into this decision affecting our

[4:01:20] future in our neighborhoods.

[4:01:23] Please again vote no. Thank you for your

[4:01:26] time. Any questions?

[4:01:29] » Any questions from Mr. Brown, my

[4:01:31] colleagues?

[4:01:33] » Thank you, sir.

[4:01:34] » Thank you.

[4:01:35] » Uh the next speaker come before council

[4:01:37] is Miss Laura Com. Come, welcome back to

[4:01:40] council.

[4:01:49] Good evening, Chairman Dorans, President

[4:01:52] Harden, members of council. It's nice to

[4:01:53] see everyone this evening. Uh, I have

[4:01:56] the distinct pleasure this evening of

[4:01:58] appearing on behalf of the property

[4:01:59] owner, Mr. Wallace McClean.

[4:02:02] He sends his regards and apologies for

[4:02:04] not being able to be here this evening.

[4:02:08] Many of you know him. He is a pillar of

[4:02:10] our community and of this neighborhood,

[4:02:12] North Central Area Commission.

[4:02:16] Mr. McClean

[4:02:18] is the kind of person who would rent one

[4:02:20] of these spaces, right? As a small

[4:02:24] businessman who had lawnmowers and small

[4:02:26] equipment and machinery in small spaces,

[4:02:29] he's the kind of business on a small

[4:02:31] scale that would use these businesses,

[4:02:34] that would use these new warehouse

[4:02:35] facilities. Um, you can still be

[4:02:38] community friendly and still be business

[4:02:40] friendly. We talk about scope, scale,

[4:02:44] and context of where uses and

[4:02:47] developments go. I did some math. 2.2

[4:02:50] acres next door to Rumpky, which is 25

[4:02:53] acres. These are smaller individual

[4:02:56] spaces. Rumkey is 185,000

[4:02:59] square feet. It's awesome. It's good for

[4:03:01] the neighborhood. What's What's the

[4:03:03] balance? The context is this use with no

[4:03:07] manufacturing serves as a buffer between

[4:03:10] the residential and the significantly

[4:03:12] more intense Rumkey use.

[4:03:16] And let's understand, I think you can

[4:03:19] ask Councilwoman Ross what happens in

[4:03:22] this particular neighborhood in areas

[4:03:24] that are left vacant and are unattended.

[4:03:27] They're not serving an economic

[4:03:28] development purpose. They serve as area

[4:03:30] for crime and significant dumping. All

[4:03:34] of that happens. The counter to that is

[4:03:37] private investment. There's no

[4:03:38] incentive. There's no subsidy for

[4:03:41] somebody who wants to come in and put a

[4:03:42] reasonable small business, right? A

[4:03:45] series of small businesses in this area.

[4:03:47] They have met every request for

[4:03:49] screening and buffering. And um so then

[4:03:52] you add tax base and you add jobs and

[4:03:55] you add small contractors who can use

[4:03:57] the space. Folks like Mr. clean, who

[4:04:00] picked up the jobs, who picked up the

[4:04:02] yards, who mowed the yards all these

[4:04:04] years, right? Who's done that for his

[4:04:08] neighborhood, his community, the

[4:04:09] nonprofits. This is small scale. It's

[4:04:12] about scope, right? It's about scope and

[4:04:14] context. And so, we'd encourage you to

[4:04:17] consider those. All the other points

[4:04:19] have been made are are well taken.

[4:04:21] There's not manufacturing. This isn't

[4:04:23] heavy emissions, right? This isn't it

[4:04:25] isn't quite frankly even the rumy the

[4:04:28] level of activity that will come from

[4:04:29] that. So there's a different way to look

[4:04:31] at it. A little bit of investment and a

[4:04:33] little bit of traffic signals vitality,

[4:04:35] right? We all put up with a little more

[4:04:37] traffic as we grow, but this could

[4:04:39] signal vitality for a neighborhood. This

[4:04:41] neighborhood actually deserves something

[4:04:43] like this for people to come in and

[4:04:45] privately put in money. That's an

[4:04:47] opportunity for small businesses in this

[4:04:49] community. Happy to answer any

[4:04:52] questions.

[4:04:52] » Thank you, Miss Gomech. Any question my

[4:04:54] colleagues

[4:04:56] customer green

[4:04:58] » Question come do you have a sense of

[4:05:00] like what um what price range the

[4:05:02] individual units are going to be rented

[4:05:04] out to for the small business owners.

[4:05:06] I'm just thinking about like if there's

[4:05:07] any neighborhood based small business

[4:05:08] owners too in that area that would

[4:05:10] benefit from having a shop or a workout

[4:05:12] » On this one. I'm not the applicant so I

[4:05:14] don't know that answer.

[4:05:15] » Okay. I defer to uh CL.

[4:05:19] » Any other questions?

[4:05:22] Seeing none. Thank you, Miss Gome. Uh,

[4:05:24] we do have one final speaker before I

[4:05:26] bring the applicant back up. Uh, Miss

[4:05:28] Stephanie Morris.

[4:05:30] » Miss Morris, welcome to council.

[4:05:45] Good evening, council. Again, my name is

[4:05:47] Stephanie Morris. Um, I did write

[4:05:50] something down, but I'm not even going

[4:05:51] to look at it. I'm going to speak from

[4:05:53] the heart. Both my parents lived out in

[4:05:57] American edition. My mother was bought

[4:06:00] out there when she was 2 years old. She

[4:06:02] lived on Zixby Avenue. My grandfather

[4:06:06] built the house that me and my family

[4:06:08] were raised in 95 years ago. My dad met

[4:06:12] my mom

[4:06:15] from Zixby and got married on Lee

[4:06:16] Avenue, which is the where I built my

[4:06:19] house at as well. So, it's not just

[4:06:24] about manufacturing.

[4:06:26] It's all families. It's all families out

[4:06:29] there, predominantly black, 95%

[4:06:33] um that have worked hard to

[4:06:37] build their homes, to live in their

[4:06:39] homes, to try to be healthy. And as Myra

[4:06:43] did indicate that some cancer, my mom

[4:06:46] died of lung cancer. We didn't even know

[4:06:49] she had it.

[4:06:51] Stage four,

[4:06:53] she lived to be 93. My grandmother Zixby

[4:06:57] Avenue lived to be 95.

[4:07:00] So it's a lot of generations out there

[4:07:03] that is two, three, four, five, five

[4:07:06] years that's been out there. So no, I

[4:07:10] don't think we need a manufacturing

[4:07:12] plant inside of our community.

[4:07:15] I don't think so. There's no need for

[4:07:18] it. If he has places now to store his

[4:07:21] stuff, then he already has a place. If

[4:07:25] realators

[4:07:26] need place, more places to store their

[4:07:29] stuff, they can buy those bins. They can

[4:07:32] use those bins next to their offices and

[4:07:35] put their stuff there.

[4:07:38] There's no need to have a manufacturing

[4:07:41] plant in inside of our community. We

[4:07:45] have three streets. We have Dwey, we

[4:07:48] have Woodford, and we have 12th Avenue.

[4:07:51] They run east and west. They are not

[4:07:54] through streets. So, you have to go in

[4:07:56] one way and come out the same. We have

[4:07:59] six streets that make up the community

[4:08:02] from Joyce Avenue, which is Zixby, Lee

[4:08:06] Avenue, Samson Avenue, Key West, and

[4:08:10] Puritan. So, those are our five streets.

[4:08:12] I'm sorry. Well, including Joyce. So

[4:08:14] that is our community.

[4:08:17] We are five streets with three streets

[4:08:20] that run east and west and the rest run

[4:08:23] north and south. So there's other places

[4:08:27] within Columbus, Ohio

[4:08:30] that these people can build their

[4:08:33] offices.

[4:08:34] We already know that the back end of it

[4:08:37] is manufacturing, but the front end is

[4:08:39] residential.

[4:08:41] I have a home built out there from

[4:08:43] Homeport and I know they're supposed to

[4:08:45] be building some more. So, we want a

[4:08:48] single family home. That's what we are

[4:08:50] now. That's what we want to remain to

[4:08:52] be. We are redlined and I mean I didn't

[4:08:56] know the understanding of red line but I

[4:08:58] do now. So, like I said, there's no

[4:09:02] reason for him to actually build inside

[4:09:05] of our neighborhood. There's other

[4:09:07] places. And I did want to make the fact

[4:09:10] that when we had our voting, Mr. Mlan

[4:09:13] voted no. He did not want the

[4:09:16] manufacturer on that property.

[4:09:20] » I'm done. [snorts]

[4:09:22] » That's it.

[4:09:23] » Uh any question, my colleagues from Miss

[4:09:26] Morris?

[4:09:29] » Thank you very much for being here.

[4:09:30] » Thank you. Have a good night. did want

[4:09:33] to invite the applicant and his

[4:09:34] representative back up to respond to

[4:09:37] anything with regard to public comment.

[4:09:52] Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you,

[4:09:54] councel. Thank you to uh area

[4:09:56] commissioner and those that spoke. Um I

[4:09:58] briefly addressed some of the comments.

[4:10:00] Um just to clarify, this is not a

[4:10:02] manufacturing plant. Um that's being

[4:10:03] proposed. Um the uh typical use is an 8

[4:10:07] to5 office with warehouse in the back.

[4:10:09] Um these type of uses aren't they they

[4:10:12] have to satisfy a landlord. So uh you're

[4:10:14] not seeing people that are running

[4:10:15] 24-hour type of operations here. Um some

[4:10:18] of the comments that were mentioned were

[4:10:20] good ones. Uh the discussion of gating a

[4:10:22] development like this. Um obviously

[4:10:24] that's something that uh if addressed we

[4:10:26] we you know we could have addressed that

[4:10:27] in the limitation text as well. um the

[4:10:30] net zero. I I think there's things

[4:10:32] within this development that could could

[4:10:33] address net zero as well. Um so if

[4:10:36] there's opportunities to try to

[4:10:37] integrate those, it's it's not likely

[4:10:39] that this site's going to get downzoned.

[4:10:40] Um it was previously recommended or it

[4:10:43] was previously proposed for a uh

[4:10:45] landscape business uh for outside

[4:10:48] storage of of um construction or uh for

[4:10:51] landscape materials. And uh we feel like

[4:10:53] this site's going to be a lot more

[4:10:54] conducive for this that's not outside

[4:10:56] storage. It's not heavy equipment. um

[4:10:58] this type of use is integrated into the

[4:11:00] commi community. It's jobs for the

[4:11:02] community. It it fills an immediate need

[4:11:05] in the community. Um that's why we don't

[4:11:07] know what uses are going to be in there

[4:11:08] today. Um the idea is it's being it's an

[4:11:11] investment in the community uh to try to

[4:11:13] provide an opportunity. Um I think as

[4:11:16] far as rent, I I'll let uh my uh my

[4:11:18] client discuss uh the the rent um

[4:11:20] perspective. There's costs that go into

[4:11:22] development. Obviously uh uh that needs

[4:11:24] to get addressed in the in the

[4:11:25] discussion as far as what rent gets set

[4:11:27] at. But um there all uses generate

[4:11:29] traffic. Um we looked at the front of

[4:11:31] this site suitably being used for

[4:11:33] residential whether it's eight or 10

[4:11:35] lots to match in with the fabric of the

[4:11:37] existing neighborhood. Um that's going

[4:11:39] to generate traffic as well. All uses

[4:11:41] generate traffic. Uh we feel like this

[4:11:43] is a low impact. Um typically this is

[4:11:46] one, two, three employees that show up

[4:11:47] for work in a use. Uh they come and go.

[4:11:50] uh they usually eat lunch in the

[4:11:52] neighborhood. Uh they they um they try

[4:11:54] they if not at their desk um but they're

[4:11:57] they're usually local trips. Uh this

[4:11:59] isn't uh people coming living and then

[4:12:01] moving or going to other places for

[4:12:03] work. So uh we do feel like it's a the

[4:12:06] hypothetical fears of what could come in

[4:12:09] there uh is is maybe um hard to contend

[4:12:12] with, but it's it's a two-way street.

[4:12:14] Um, businesses when they when they look

[4:12:16] at site selection, they pick where to

[4:12:17] locate their business, just like the

[4:12:19] neighborhoods picking what they can do

[4:12:20] with this site. Um, these office

[4:12:22] warehouses are going to be interviewed

[4:12:24] by potential tenants and we hope that

[4:12:27] people in the neighborhood actually find

[4:12:28] it appealing to to work there to to

[4:12:30] operate businesses there. Um, if

[4:12:33] approved, love to work with the

[4:12:34] neighborhood. Um, I think that's been

[4:12:36] the message that they've sent the entire

[4:12:37] time as well. Uh, we understand general

[4:12:39] opposition. and it's hard to overcome

[4:12:41] that in a in a negotiation sense, but if

[4:12:43] approved, uh I feel like a lot of the

[4:12:45] concerns of the neighborhood can be

[4:12:46] addressed. Um the applicants are

[4:12:49] definitely wanting to make an investment

[4:12:50] in the community and uh we're hoping

[4:12:52] that uh we find the site to be a

[4:12:54] suitable place for that investment in

[4:12:56] the neighborhood as well. You if you

[4:12:58] want to address rent, I think that was

[4:13:00] the biggest question I couldn't address.

[4:13:02] Uh just to answer your question about um

[4:13:05] pricing and square footage, these are

[4:13:07] going to be uh different size warehouses

[4:13:10] based on need. Um the industry standard

[4:13:13] is between 10 and 20. I know that's a

[4:13:16] big margin per square foot uh for that

[4:13:18] kind of space. Uh but but depending on

[4:13:21] on development site it cost that's where

[4:13:24] we are at just just to if I was going to

[4:13:26] throw a number on there I would say

[4:13:28] probably $15 a square foot is is the

[4:13:30] going rate.

[4:13:33] » Mhm. Any other council witch?

[4:13:37] » So one, thank you for being here and

[4:13:40] working through this and working with

[4:13:41] the neighbors. One of the things that we

[4:13:42] did here was around air quality issues.

[4:13:45] And although I I don't believe your site

[4:13:46] is going to generate additional air

[4:13:48] quality issues, would you be open to

[4:13:50] adding more trees to your site to help

[4:13:52] mitigate some of the air quality issues

[4:13:54] that do exist in the area?

[4:13:56] » Um, absolutely. I'm a little bit of a

[4:13:58] tree hugger, so yes, the more trees the

[4:14:01] better. And and just to touch on that as

[4:14:03] well is I completely understand the

[4:14:07] community's concerns and I think that's

[4:14:10] part of uh uh they should be an advocate

[4:14:13] for what we doing because ours is as has

[4:14:17] as low of a footprint as as you could do

[4:14:20] in that site.

[4:14:22] » Council President,

[4:14:23] » And that's kind of where I was wanted to

[4:14:25] pick up to the commissioner's point. The

[4:14:28] city is underway uh with a pilot project

[4:14:32] to lower uh emissions in the

[4:14:35] neighborhood. There's a whole office,

[4:14:37] there's a whole group that is working on

[4:14:38] that. Has, and this might be even more

[4:14:41] of a question for the administration,

[4:14:42] has have those conversations come

[4:14:44] together. Is this one of those projects

[4:14:47] where how does this uh uh go into our

[4:14:51] city state plan for American Edition uh

[4:14:54] as it pertains to reducing emissions? Is

[4:14:57] this do we see this as additive to

[4:14:59] moving the ball uh uh in that way? I

[4:15:03] just thought it was a that was the

[4:15:04] fairest of the points that I heard that

[4:15:06] there is a a whole there we have people

[4:15:08] on staff specifically for American

[4:15:10] edition around uh admission.

[4:15:16] » Um I I apologize. What What was the

[4:15:19] question? I'm sorry. Has has there been

[4:15:22] any conversation with the uh team at

[4:15:25] utilities who's working or I guess

[4:15:26] they're now they're at uh

[4:15:28] » Diversity inclusion

[4:15:29] » Odi

[4:15:31] uh around impacts like does this go

[4:15:34] against or is it supportive is there

[4:15:36] it's a it's a broader question but

[4:15:39] » Um so thank you for the question I'm

[4:15:42] sorry I do not know the answer to that

[4:15:44] question

[4:15:44] » So council president I think to that

[4:15:46] point if if I can sort of wrap things up

[4:15:48] here for for a moment Um, you know, I

[4:15:52] think as I was chatting with

[4:15:54] Commissioner Williams, like I actually

[4:15:55] view uh what is being before the body,

[4:15:59] uh, as a way to prevent additional heavy

[4:16:02] manufacturing uses that I think the

[4:16:04] community fears. Um, and rightly so,

[4:16:07] given their experiences and air quality

[4:16:09] concerns within this area. Um, I think

[4:16:11] to your point, Council President, it's

[4:16:12] actually an extremely fair question to

[4:16:14] be asked out loud if this city has uh

[4:16:16] assigned staff specifically to American

[4:16:18] Edition related to these issues. Um, I

[4:16:21] think we should postpone this a week um

[4:16:23] to get that that specific question

[4:16:25] answered um in order to make sure the

[4:16:28] residents have a better connection um to

[4:16:31] you they've been working very closely

[4:16:33] with folks at the city of Columbus and I

[4:16:35] think it would be without having someone

[4:16:37] here to speak I think directly to that

[4:16:40] uh I think I would be more comfortable

[4:16:41] waiting a week for this body to take up

[4:16:43] this vote um on this. So, um, I want to

[4:16:47] just open up to my colleagues to see if

[4:16:49] they had anything that they would like

[4:16:50] to say on that, uh, before I move to

[4:16:52] postpone.

[4:16:53] » I agree. I think that there are multiple

[4:16:55] I think there are multiple places where

[4:16:58] additional conversation could happen to

[4:17:00] allow for the community to be more

[4:17:02] comfortable if they're going to get more

[4:17:03] comfortable. Um, and it sounds like the

[4:17:06] applicant is agreeable to that. I would

[4:17:08] like to see some more engagement on that

[4:17:10] front in addition to some answers to the

[4:17:12] question about net zero before I am

[4:17:14] comfortable uh moving forward with a

[4:17:16] vote.

[4:17:18] » Uh at this point I move to postpone.

[4:17:21] » Second

[4:17:23] Bank Rosa de Padilla de a Dorren Green

[4:17:26] Remy Ross vice president Harden

[4:17:29] » Postponed.

[4:17:30] » Thank you. Uh, next we have ordinance

[4:17:33] number 1716-2026

[4:17:35] to reszone 181 Business Center Drive

[4:17:37] being 2.7 plus 2.76 plus acres located

[4:17:39] in the northwest corner of business

[4:17:41] central drive in North Bryce Road from N

[4:17:43] manufacturing district to CPD commercial

[4:17:45] plan development district. Second is the

[4:17:46] one undeveloped personal request council

[4:17:48] for reszoning will allow limited

[4:17:49] commercial development including fuel

[4:17:51] sales. The proposal has approved from

[4:17:52] city staff development commission and

[4:17:54] the far east area commission. Uh I

[4:17:56] unless there's any questions or comments

[4:17:57] from my colleagues I move for passage.

[4:18:01] Banks Denver Rosa de Padilla de Akawa

[4:18:03] Dors Green Remy Ross vice president

[4:18:05] Harden

[4:18:05] » Pass.

[4:18:06] » Thank you. Next I have ordinance number

[4:18:07] 1768-26 reszone 1700 long long road

[4:18:10] being 2.25 plus acres located on the

[4:18:13] north side of long road 150 plus feet

[4:18:15] east of widening path driving from Rural

[4:18:18] District to LLD limited part residential

[4:18:20] district site consists of two parcels

[4:18:22] one develop dwelling the other

[4:18:23] undeveloped. The requested reszoning

[4:18:25] will allow a 32 unit townhouse style

[4:18:27] development. The proposal approved from

[4:18:28] city staff the development commission

[4:18:30] the greater southeast area commission to

[4:18:32] my colleagues to question comments.

[4:18:33] Seeing none move for passage

[4:18:36] » Banks temper rosia de a car dorren green

[4:18:38] screen remy ros vice president Harden

[4:18:40] » Pass.

[4:18:41] » Thank you. Next we have 1772-2026 to

[4:18:44] reszone 2500 airport drive being 5.5

[4:18:46] plus acres located on the north side of

[4:18:48] airport drive down here plus feet east

[4:18:50] of north Nelson road from R1 residential

[4:18:53] district to CPD commercial plan

[4:18:54] development district. site consists of

[4:18:55] two parcels deal with a retail nursery

[4:18:58] and requested reszoning will allow an

[4:18:59] extended state hotel of one building of

[4:19:01] up to 130 suites proposal approved from

[4:19:04] city staff development commission and

[4:19:05] the northeast area commission unless

[4:19:07] there's any question comments I move for

[4:19:09] passage

[4:19:10] » Cler please call the role

[4:19:11] » Thanks Tim Rosa de podia de a dorrence

[4:19:14] green remy ros president

[4:19:16] » Pass

[4:19:16] » Thank you next I have ordinance 1805-226

[4:19:19] zone 274 east 1st avenue being 6.944

[4:19:23] plus acres located northeast corner of

[4:19:25] East 1st Avenue and North 16th Street

[4:19:27] from N manufacturing district to UCT

[4:19:30] urban uh center district set consist of

[4:19:32] one parcel to both the warehouse and the

[4:19:34] request of reszoning will allow a high

[4:19:35] intens highintensity mixeduse

[4:19:37] development the final building design

[4:19:39] will be subject to a certificate of

[4:19:40] appropriateness issued by the Italian

[4:19:42] village commission proposals approved

[4:19:43] from city staff development commission

[4:19:44] and the Italian village commission

[4:19:46] unless there's any questions comments I

[4:19:48] move for passage

[4:19:49] » Clerk please call the role

[4:19:50] » Banks roa deodia de aar dors green remy

[4:19:53] ros vice President Harden

[4:19:55] » Passed.

[4:19:55] » Thank you. Next we move from the council

[4:19:56] variances. First we have ordinance

[4:19:57] number 0376-2026

[4:19:59] to grant a variance provision section

[4:20:00] 3312.21B

[4:20:02] landscaping and screening 3312.271

[4:20:04] parking setback line 3312.49 C require

[4:20:07] parking and 333.15

[4:20:09] basic computing area and 333.18 building

[4:20:12] lines and 3332 uh.24 24 rear yard and

[4:20:15] 3332.55

[4:20:17] permitted yard at Columbia City Coast

[4:20:19] for property located 824 Caner Road to

[4:20:21] allow reduced development standards for

[4:20:22] multi-unit residential development in

[4:20:23] the AR3 apartment residential district.

[4:20:26] This is the concurrent variance for

[4:20:27] reszoning we heard earlier on our agenda

[4:20:29] for a residential development containing

[4:20:31] up to 435 apartment units. Variances

[4:20:34] reduced landscaping screening building

[4:20:35] and parking setback lines require

[4:20:37] parking in rear yard and perimeter yard

[4:20:39] and increased lot coverage are included

[4:20:40] in the request. There's no air

[4:20:42] commission or civic association with

[4:20:43] approval. The proposal is approval from

[4:20:45] city staff. There's a proposed amendment

[4:20:47] to this ordinance as the applicants

[4:20:49] attorney submitted updated site plans

[4:20:51] with the only revisions being the title

[4:20:53] of the plans and the applicant listed.

[4:20:55] Uh the updated site plans are included

[4:20:56] in legislation in section three and the

[4:20:58] language ordinance has been revised.

[4:21:00] There are no other changes to the

[4:21:02] development proposed. I first move to

[4:21:03] accept the entire step into evidence as

[4:21:05] an exhibit.

[4:21:06] » Please call the role. Banks Perosa de

[4:21:08] Padilla de Aar Dors Green Remy Ross Vice

[4:21:11] President Harden

[4:21:11] » Accept it.

[4:21:12] » Thank you. Move to adopt the final staff

[4:21:13] as the finance of council. Clerk please

[4:21:15] call the role.

[4:21:16] » Banks temposa de padilla de a dorsreen

[4:21:18] reie ros vice president Harden.

[4:21:20] » Adopt it

[4:21:20] » Again. Move to amend the clerk.

[4:21:22] » Clerk please call the role.

[4:21:24] » Banks temper roa de padilla de a dors

[4:21:26] reie ros vice president Harden.

[4:21:28] » Uh amend it.

[4:21:29] » And finally move for passage as amended.

[4:21:31] » Clerk please call the role. Banks Timber

[4:21:33] Rosa de Padilla de Aower Dors Green Remy

[4:21:35] Ross vice president Harden

[4:21:37] » Fast.

[4:21:37] » Thank you. Next we have ordinance

[4:21:39] 1764-226 grand variance provision

[4:21:41] section 3332.039

[4:21:43] R4 residential district of the Columbus

[4:21:45] city closed for the property located in

[4:21:46] West Park Avenue to allow a nonprofit

[4:21:48] organization with associated retail

[4:21:50] office and assembly space in the R4

[4:21:52] residential district. Um, this site

[4:21:54] consists of two parcels developed with a

[4:21:56] former religious facility and the

[4:21:57] request council of variance will allow a

[4:21:58] nonprofit organization and associated

[4:22:00] retail office and assembly uses. A

[4:22:02] council of variance is required because

[4:22:03] the current zoning district only allows

[4:22:05] limited accessory commercial uses such

[4:22:07] as daycarees, food pantries if they're

[4:22:09] associated with a religious facility.

[4:22:11] Proposal is approved from city staff and

[4:22:12] the frankincon area commission. I first

[4:22:14] move to accept the entire staff report

[4:22:15] into evidence as an exhibit.

[4:22:17] » Please call the role. Banks Temper Rosa

[4:22:19] de Padilla de A Dorren Green Remy Ross

[4:22:22] Vice President Harden

[4:22:23] » Accept it.

[4:22:23] » Thank you. Next move to adopt the fine

[4:22:24] of staff as the finance of councel.

[4:22:26] » Clerk please call the role.

[4:22:27] » Banks temper roa de padilla de a dorren

[4:22:29] green remy ros vice president Harden

[4:22:31] » Adopt it.

[4:22:32] » Fly move for passage.

[4:22:34] » Please call the ro.

[4:22:35] » Banks temper roa de padilla de a dorren

[4:22:37] screen remy ros vice president Harden.

[4:22:39] » Pass.

[4:22:39] » Thank you. Next we have ordinance

[4:22:41] 1769-226 to grant appearance provisions

[4:22:43] section 3333.18 building lines in

[4:22:45] 3333.255 255 Primary Yard at the

[4:22:47] Columbus DEO is a property located at

[4:22:48] 1700 Long Drive to reduce the required

[4:22:50] building setback in Primary Yard for a

[4:22:52] multi-unit residential development in

[4:22:54] the LLD limited apartment residential

[4:22:56] district. This is another concurrent

[4:22:58] variance for reszoning we considered

[4:22:59] earlier in tonight's agenda for the 32

[4:23:01] unit townhouse style development. The

[4:23:03] request variance will allow reduced

[4:23:05] building setback lines along Long Road

[4:23:07] from 40 to 30 ft and reduce perimeter

[4:23:10] yard from 25 ft to 9 on the eastern

[4:23:12] boundary of the site. A variance is

[4:23:14] required because the proposal

[4:23:15] development cannot meet all development

[4:23:16] standards of the zoning district but

[4:23:18] results in a better site design and

[4:23:20] centralized open space and preservation

[4:23:21] of trees. The proposal is approved in

[4:23:23] city staff and the greater southeast

[4:23:25] area commission. I first moved to accept

[4:23:26] the entire staff report into Evans as an

[4:23:28] exhibit.

[4:23:29] » Clerk, please call the role.

[4:23:30] » Thanks Timber Rosa Deodia de Aar Doris

[4:23:32] Greenie Ross Vice President Harden.

[4:23:34] » Postponed.

[4:23:35] » Thank you.

[4:23:38] » Accepted.

[4:23:39] » Accepted. I'm like huh?

[4:23:41] » I'm just getting [clears throat] that

[4:23:41] out.

[4:23:42] » Thank you. Thank you, Council President.

[4:23:43] Has been accepted. I now move to adopt

[4:23:44] the fines of staff as the fines of

[4:23:46] councel.

[4:23:46] » Clark, please call the role.

[4:23:48] » Bankston Barrosa de Padilla de Aar Dors

[4:23:50] Green. Remy Ros, President Harton.

[4:23:52] » Adopt it.

[4:23:54] » Um, and finally, I move for passage.

[4:23:57] » Clark, please call the role.

[4:23:58] » Bankston Barosa de Padilla de Aar Dors

[4:24:00] Green Remy Ross White, President Harden.

[4:24:02] » Pass.

[4:24:03] » Thank you. Next, we have ordinance

[4:24:04] 180-226 grand variance provisions of

[4:24:07] section 333 2.039 R4 residential

[4:24:10] district 3312.21D. 21D landscaping

[4:24:12] screening the Columbus City properly

[4:24:14] located at 128-130 Northampton Avenue to

[4:24:17] allow rooming house with no parking lot

[4:24:19] screening in the R4 residential

[4:24:20] district. Site consists of a two-unit

[4:24:22] dwelling. The request of council

[4:24:23] variance will allow the existing

[4:24:24] dwelling to be converted into a rooming

[4:24:26] house with up to eight total occupants.

[4:24:28] A council variance is required because

[4:24:29] the current zoning district does not

[4:24:30] allow rooming houses. A variance to not

[4:24:33] provide parking lot screening is also

[4:24:35] included in the request. proposal will

[4:24:37] use will provide a short-term housing

[4:24:39] option for individ individuals utilizing

[4:24:40] nearport airport or for working at job

[4:24:43] centers in the surrounding area.

[4:24:44] Proposal is approved from city staff in

[4:24:46] the mid east area commission. I first

[4:24:48] move to accept the entire staff report

[4:24:49] into Evans as an exhibit.

[4:24:53] » Banks Timber Rosa de Padilla de AOA

[4:24:55] Doris Green Remy Ross Vice President

[4:24:57] Harden.

[4:24:58] » Next move to adopt the fin staff finds

[4:25:00] council.

[4:25:02] Banks temper roa de padia de a dorren

[4:25:05] green reie ros vice president Harden

[4:25:07] » Finally move for passage

[4:25:10] » Banks temper roa de padilla de a dorren

[4:25:12] green remy ross vice president Harden

[4:25:15] » And finally we have ordinance 1822-226

[4:25:17] grant variance provisions section 33631

[4:25:20] and manufacturing district 33705

[4:25:23] permitted uses in 3309.14 height

[4:25:25] districts in 33121 D1B landscaping and

[4:25:28] screening 3312.49 require parking

[4:25:30] 3363.24 24 building lines and in an end

[4:25:33] manufacturing district of the Columbus

[4:25:34] city coast for property located at 2150

[4:25:37] in this road allow mixed units

[4:25:38] development with reduced development

[4:25:39] standards the LM limited manufacturing

[4:25:41] district to provoke ordinance number

[4:25:43] 3060-224

[4:25:45] passed on November 18 2024 site consist

[4:25:47] of one parcel developed with two two

[4:25:50] monopole telecommunications antennas

[4:25:53] site is subject to council variance

[4:25:54] CV24-100

[4:25:56] passed November 18th 2024 which allowed

[4:25:58] a multi-unit residential development

[4:26:00] containing up to7 73 units. They

[4:26:02] requested uh updates the previously

[4:26:04] approved project and allows three

[4:26:05] apartment buildings totaling 30 138

[4:26:08] dwelling units, 15 detached single unit

[4:26:10] dwellings and maintains the two

[4:26:11] telecommunications antennas. Uh

[4:26:13] additionally, the proposal the proposed

[4:26:16] resident development will be subject to

[4:26:17] competitive funding by the Ohio Housing

[4:26:18] Finance Agency which requires certain

[4:26:20] land attributes including compliant

[4:26:22] zoning. Proposal is approved some city

[4:26:24] staff the north lynen area commission. I

[4:26:26] first move to accept the entire staff

[4:26:28] into evidence as an exhibit. Follow

[4:26:31] » Banks Timber Aar Doran Green Remy Ross

[4:26:34] Vice President Harden.

[4:26:36] » Thank you. Next move to adopt the five

[4:26:37] staffs council.

[4:26:39] » Banks Timber Aar Doran Green Remy Ross

[4:26:43] Vice President Harden

[4:26:45] move for passage

[4:26:49] a dors Remy Ross Vice President Harden.

[4:26:52] » And council president that's all we have

[4:26:54] this week in tonight in zoning agenda.

[4:26:57] » Thank you Mr. Chair. See no further

[4:26:59] business there motion to adjurnn.

[4:27:01] » Clerk please call the role.

[4:27:02] » Banks dear Dor screen remy Ross vice

[4:27:05] president Harden.

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[4:42:32] » Sir, please call the role.

[4:42:33] » Banks Timber Rosa de Podia de Aar Dors.

[4:42:36] » Yes.

[4:42:37] » Green Remy boss vice president Harden.

[4:42:40] » We will uh go back to the finance

[4:42:41] committee where council member uh banks

[4:42:43] and chairs council the floor is yours.

[4:42:45] » Thank you council president. First up in

[4:42:46] the finance and governance committee for

[4:42:47] second read, we have resolution

[4:42:49] 0128X-2026

[4:42:51] to adopt the 2027 tax budget and to

[4:42:54] authorize and direct the city auditor to

[4:42:56] submit said budget to the county and to

[4:42:58] declare an emergency. The county tax

[4:43:00] budget is a statemandated process that

[4:43:02] we and our city auditor follow to

[4:43:04] receive our city portion of local

[4:43:06] government funds. Statute requires that

[4:43:07] the tax budget legislation appear on two

[4:43:10] council agendas and that we hold a

[4:43:12] hearing to discuss. As we've done in

[4:43:14] previous years, I will postpone this

[4:43:16] resolution to the June 29th council

[4:43:18] meeting where we will conduct a public

[4:43:20] hearing prior to the vote for passage.

[4:43:22] Seeing no questions or comments from my

[4:43:23] colleagues, I move for pass. I'm I move

[4:43:25] I'm sorry to postpone resolution

[4:43:27] 0128x-2026

[4:43:29] to June 29th council meeting.

[4:43:32] » Second.

[4:43:32] » Clerk, please call the role.

[4:43:34] » Bangarosa de Padilla de Aka Dors Green

[4:43:37] Remy Ross President Harden

[4:43:39] » Postponed. Next, we have ordinance

[4:43:41] 1274-20226

[4:43:43] to authorize the director of finance and

[4:43:44] management to associate all general

[4:43:46] budget reservations resulting from this

[4:43:48] ordinance with the appropriate universal

[4:43:50] term contract purchase agreement and to

[4:43:52] establish related purchase orders for

[4:43:54] automative repair services for the fleet

[4:43:56] management division to authorize the

[4:43:58] expenditure of $1 million from the fleet

[4:44:00] management operating fund and to declare

[4:44:01] an emergency. This legislation

[4:44:03] authorizes the fleet management division

[4:44:04] to establish various purchase orders for

[4:44:07] the purchase of services to aid in the

[4:44:09] repair and upkeep of city-owned

[4:44:11] vehicles. This will keep the city's

[4:44:12] fleet of approximately 6,000 vehicles in

[4:44:14] operation. Department of Finance and

[4:44:16] Management Fleet Division has been

[4:44:18] steadily dealing with an increased

[4:44:20] number of city vehicles to service as

[4:44:22] well as the rising cost of services,

[4:44:24] materials, and repairs. Seeing no

[4:44:26] questions or comments from my

[4:44:26] colleagues, I move for passage.

[4:44:28] » Cler, please call the role. Banks timber

[4:44:30] de a cars green rooms vice president

[4:44:33] Harden

[4:44:33] » Pass. Next we have ordinance 1382-2026

[4:44:36] to authorize the director of finance and

[4:44:38] management to associate all general

[4:44:39] budget reservation resulting from the

[4:44:41] this ordinance with the appropriate

[4:44:43] universal term contract purchase

[4:44:44] agreements and to establish related

[4:44:46] purchase orders for automotive parts for

[4:44:48] the fleet management division to

[4:44:50] authorize expenditure of $3.2 million

[4:44:53] from the fleet management operating fund

[4:44:54] and to declare an emergency. This

[4:44:56] legislation authorizes the fleet

[4:44:57] management division to establish various

[4:44:59] purchase orders for the acquisition of

[4:45:01] vehicles parts from previously

[4:45:03] established universal term contracts.

[4:45:05] These parts are used by the fleet

[4:45:06] management division to service and

[4:45:08] repair the city's fleet of over 6,000

[4:45:10] vehicles. The fleet management uh

[4:45:12] processes over 30,000 work orders

[4:45:15] annually for the city's vehicles and

[4:45:16] equipment and requires purchase orders

[4:45:18] with over 400 vendors to help meet this

[4:45:22] need. Seeing no questions or comments

[4:45:24] from my colleagues, I move for passage.

[4:45:25] Second clerk,

[4:45:26] » Please call the role.

[4:45:27] » Banks temporarosa de aar dors green remy

[4:45:29] ross vice president Harden.

[4:45:31] » Pass. Next, we have ordinance 1461-2026

[4:45:34] to amend the 2025 capital improvements

[4:45:36] budget to authorize the transfer of

[4:45:38] funds within the information services go

[4:45:41] bonds fund to wave the competitive

[4:45:44] bidding provisions of chapter 329 of

[4:45:45] Columbus city codes to authorize the

[4:45:47] director of department of technology to

[4:45:48] enter into contract for a governance

[4:45:51] risk and compliance tool with the option

[4:45:53] to renew for four additional one-year

[4:45:56] terms to authorize expenditure from the

[4:45:58] information services geo bonds fund and

[4:46:00] to declare an emergency. The governance

[4:46:01] risk and compliance tool represents a

[4:46:03] strategic technology investment that

[4:46:05] will establish a foundational cyber

[4:46:07] security and compliance management

[4:46:08] platform for the city. This solution is

[4:46:11] necessary to comply with requirements in

[4:46:12] Ohio Revised Code 9.64.

[4:46:15] An emergency designation is necessary to

[4:46:17] avoid immediate operational dist uh

[4:46:20] disruption and a waiver of competitive

[4:46:22] bid is requested since the solution was

[4:46:24] recommended as the best fit for the

[4:46:26] city's needs by its cyber security

[4:46:29] consultant. Seeing no questions or

[4:46:31] comments from my colleagues, I move for

[4:46:32] passage.

[4:46:33] » Please call the role.

[4:46:34] » Thanks. Temper [clears throat] Rosa Deia

[4:46:35] de Akawa Norris Green Remy Ross Vice

[4:46:37] President Harden

[4:46:38] » Passed. Next, we have ordinance

[4:46:39] 1496-2026

[4:46:41] to authorize the director of Department

[4:46:42] of Technology on behalf of Columbus

[4:46:44] Water and Power to enter in a contract

[4:46:46] with RSMUS LLP for the purchase of

[4:46:50] professional services to authorize an

[4:46:51] expenditure from the Department of

[4:46:53] Technology Information Services

[4:46:55] Operating Fund to wave the competitive

[4:46:56] bidding provisions of Columbus City

[4:46:58] Codes and to declare an emergency. CWP

[4:47:00] is enhancing its foundational

[4:47:02] operational protocols and reliance

[4:47:04] strategies to implement recommendations

[4:47:06] from previous previous strategic

[4:47:09] assessments. RSMUS LLP will deliver

[4:47:12] tailored specialized professional

[4:47:14] services to implement these processes

[4:47:17] across the division of water and power

[4:47:20] and water reclamation. The this

[4:47:22] ordinance waves the competitive bidding

[4:47:24] provisions as city's best interest is

[4:47:27] served by bypassing the standard formal

[4:47:28] bid process to immediately address these

[4:47:31] critical time-sensitive needs. Emergency

[4:47:33] action is requested to allow for the

[4:47:35] standard standardized procedural

[4:47:36] documentation to align divisional

[4:47:39] activities, maintain long-term

[4:47:40] consistency, and enhance overall

[4:47:42] readiness for Columbus Water and Power.

[4:47:44] At this time, I move for passage.

[4:47:46] Second,

[4:47:48] um please uh call the role in ordinance

[4:47:50] 1469. 226.

[4:47:52] » Thanks. Timber Rosa de Padilla de Akar

[4:47:54] Dors Green Remy Ross Vice President

[4:47:56] Harden.

[4:47:58] » Next we have ordinance 1503-2026 to

[4:48:00] authorize the finance and management

[4:48:02] director to enter into a universal term

[4:48:04] contract for the option to purchase

[4:48:06] enterprise storage with CWG government

[4:48:08] LLC to authorize expenditure of $1 to

[4:48:11] wave the competitive bidding provisions

[4:48:13] of Columbus City Co and to declare an

[4:48:14] emergency. Enterprise storage is a

[4:48:17] centralized high performance IT

[4:48:19] infrastructure designed to manage,

[4:48:21] protect, and scale large volumes of

[4:48:23] business critical data. This ordinance

[4:48:25] establishes a universal term contract

[4:48:27] for the option to purchase enterprise

[4:48:29] storage with CWG government LLC. The

[4:48:32] Department of Technology performed

[4:48:34] vendor outreach to five certified

[4:48:36] resellers. Four of the vendors responded

[4:48:38] and the lowest pricing was submitted by

[4:48:41] CWG government LLC. Enterprise Storage

[4:48:44] UTC will provide the option to purchase

[4:48:47] cloud storage and maintenance thereof

[4:48:50] for all citywide departments. Seeing no

[4:48:52] questions or comments from my

[4:48:53] colleagues, I move for passage.

[4:48:54] » Second.

[4:48:55] » Please call the role.

[4:48:56] » Thanks. Temperosa de Padilla de Akar

[4:48:58] Dorance Green Remy Ross Vice President

[4:49:00] Harden

[4:49:00] » Pass. Next, we have ordinance 1522-2026

[4:49:04] to authorize the director of department

[4:49:06] of technology enter into a contract with

[4:49:08] CWG government LLC for the purchase of

[4:49:11] OM Omnesa Workforce 1 uh Horizon VDI and

[4:49:16] Air Watch licensing to wave the

[4:49:18] competitive bidding provisions of

[4:49:20] Columbus City codes and to authorize the

[4:49:22] expenditure of $100,000 from the

[4:49:24] Department of Technology Information

[4:49:25] Services Division Information Services

[4:49:27] Operating Fund. Uh, Om, Omnisa Workspace

[4:49:32] One, uh, a Horizon and Horizon VDI and

[4:49:36] Air Watch licensing are used to provide

[4:49:39] city workers with secure remote access

[4:49:42] to essential systems and applications.

[4:49:44] It enables employees to perform their

[4:49:46] duties efficiently from various

[4:49:49] locations outside the office, ensuring

[4:49:51] continuity of services and streamline

[4:49:54] communication. And this platform allows

[4:49:55] the city to maintain operational

[4:49:57] flexibility while upholding data

[4:49:59] security and compliance standards. The

[4:50:01] Ohio AC academic resource network

[4:50:04] contracts pricing with uh Workspace 1

[4:50:08] and Horizon VDI and Air Watch and uses

[4:50:11] partners to distribute its services. A

[4:50:13] waiver of bid allows the city to receive

[4:50:16] OR nets uh contracted pricing. Seeing no

[4:50:20] questions or comments from my

[4:50:21] colleagues, I move for passage. Clerk,

[4:50:24] please call the role.

[4:50:25] » Paying Simberia de Aar Dors Green Remy

[4:50:28] Ross, Vice President Hart.

[4:50:29] » Passed.

[4:50:30] » Next, we have ordinance 1572-2026

[4:50:32] to authorize the expenditure of $139,150

[4:50:36] from the community development block

[4:50:37] grant fund to authorize the director of

[4:50:39] Department of Finance and Management to

[4:50:40] modify the CDBG subreient agreement with

[4:50:43] Habitat for Humanity of Ohio, Inc. to

[4:50:45] add $139,550

[4:50:49] and to allow for reimbursement of

[4:50:50] expenditures incurred between January 1

[4:50:53] and February 27, 2026 and to declare an

[4:50:56] emergency. Habitat for Humanity is a

[4:50:58] nonprofit housing and human service

[4:51:00] provider in central Ohio that has been

[4:51:03] performing roof repair and replacement

[4:51:04] for income qualified homeowners using

[4:51:06] community development grants funds since

[4:51:09] 2023. Ordinance 0239-2026,

[4:51:12] which was approved in February,

[4:51:14] authorized the Director of Department of

[4:51:16] Finance and Management to enter into a

[4:51:17] subreient agreement with Habitat for

[4:51:19] Humanity to complete additional roof

[4:51:21] repair and replacement projects that

[4:51:23] could not be completed under the city's

[4:51:25] expired 2025 subreient agreement with

[4:51:28] the nonprofit. A small number of roof

[4:51:31] repair projects had been started, but

[4:51:34] due to inclement weather could not be

[4:51:36] completed prior to the expiration of the

[4:51:38] agreement on December 31st, 2025. Out of

[4:51:40] a necessity to protect the homes under

[4:51:42] repair, those projects were completed

[4:51:44] and additional construction costs were

[4:51:46] incurred by Habitat Humanity before the

[4:51:48] execution of the new agreement on

[4:51:50] February 27 27th, 2026. An additional

[4:51:54] $139,150

[4:51:56] is needed to cover those costs incurred

[4:51:58] during the lapse period between

[4:51:59] agreements as well as to complete

[4:52:02] additional roof repair and replacement

[4:52:03] projects for properties on the wait

[4:52:05] list. Additional HUD environmental

[4:52:07] review requirements required radon

[4:52:09] testing and mitigation have also added

[4:52:12] costs. An emerging designation is

[4:52:14] requested in order to uh for the project

[4:52:17] to comply with HUD timelines test

[4:52:19] requirements. Are there any questions or

[4:52:21] comments from my colleagues? Seeing

[4:52:22] none, I first move to amend as submitted

[4:52:24] to the clerk. Cler,

[4:52:26] » Please call the role.

[4:52:27] » Banks Barosa de Padilla de Aar Doran

[4:52:29] Green Remy Ross President Harden.

[4:52:32] » Amended.

[4:52:32] » Uh, now I move for passage as amended.

[4:52:35] » Cler, please call the role.

[4:52:36] » Banks Barrosa de Padilla de AOA Doran

[4:52:38] Green Remy Ross President Harden.

[4:52:40] » Pass. Next, we have ordinance 1588-2026

[4:52:43] to authorize the director of finance and

[4:52:45] management on behalf of the office of

[4:52:46] construction management to modify and

[4:52:48] increase the professional construction

[4:52:50] manager at risk service agreement with

[4:52:53] Inc. for the department of public

[4:52:54] services south outpost project to

[4:52:56] authorize an expenditure up to

[4:52:59] 7,569,1.50

[4:53:02] 50 cents within the streets and highways

[4:53:04] voted capital fund to authorize an

[4:53:06] amendment uh to to authorize an

[4:53:10] amendment to the 2025 capital

[4:53:12] improvements budget and to declare an

[4:53:14] emergency. This ordinance establishes a

[4:53:16] pre-planned modification to a

[4:53:18] construction manager at risk services

[4:53:20] agreement with Inc. construction manager

[4:53:22] at risk projects are phase construction

[4:53:24] projects that require routine and

[4:53:26] pre-planned modifications to the phase

[4:53:29] contract. This modification will provide

[4:53:31] funding for the guaranteed maximum price

[4:53:34] of construction set out in the original

[4:53:36] agreement. Are there any questions or

[4:53:38] comments from my colleagues? Seeing

[4:53:40] none, I move for passage.

[4:53:41] » Cler, please call the role.

[4:53:42] » Banks Rosa Deia de Akaw Doris Green Remy

[4:53:45] Ross, vice president Harden.

[4:53:47] » Passed. Next is ordinance 1643-2026

[4:53:50] to authorize the director of department

[4:53:52] of finance and management to establish

[4:53:53] various purchase orders and to associate

[4:53:55] all general budget reservations

[4:53:57] resulting from this ordinance with

[4:53:59] previously established universal term

[4:54:00] contracts for fuel and fueling services

[4:54:02] on behalf of the fleet management

[4:54:04] division per the terms and conditions of

[4:54:06] various previously established universal

[4:54:08] term contracts to authorize expenditure

[4:54:10] of $3 million from the fleet management

[4:54:12] operating fund and to declare an

[4:54:13] emergency. This ordinance established

[4:54:15] purchase orders via an existing extern

[4:54:17] uh universal term contract with Wex Bank

[4:54:20] for vehicle fuel and fueling services on

[4:54:23] behalf of the fleet management division.

[4:54:25] These services are critical to the

[4:54:26] continued operations of the city's

[4:54:28] vehicle fleet. Seeing no questions or

[4:54:29] comments from my colleagues, I move for

[4:54:31] passage.

[4:54:31] » Second.

[4:54:32] » Clerk, please call the role.

[4:54:33] » Bankston Deia de Aar Doris Green Remy

[4:54:36] Ross President Harden

[4:54:38] » Passed. Next is ordinance 1654-2026

[4:54:41] to adopt the draft fiscal year 2026

[4:54:44] annual action plan for the CDBG home

[4:54:49] and ESG programs to authorize the

[4:54:52] acceptance of 2026 HUD community

[4:54:55] planning and development grant awards to

[4:54:57] authorize the filing of the final fiscal

[4:55:01] year 2026 annual action plan with the US

[4:55:04] Department of Housing and Urban

[4:55:06] Development and to declare an emergency.

[4:55:08] The city of Columbus receives annual

[4:55:10] grants from the US Department of uh

[4:55:12] housing and and Urban Development. Each

[4:55:14] year, the city's grant management

[4:55:16] section is responsible for completing

[4:55:18] and submitting annual plan act excuse

[4:55:21] me, submitting an annual action plan to

[4:55:23] HUD. Annual action plans identify

[4:55:26] projects and establish budgets for the

[4:55:28] city's HUD grant programs and summarize

[4:55:30] annual efforts for con consultation,

[4:55:33] citizen participation, and anticipated

[4:55:35] outcomes. This year, due to the changing

[4:55:38] landscape of federal guidelines related

[4:55:39] to the use of federal funds, the city is

[4:55:41] opting to adopt the draft fiscal year

[4:55:44] 2026 annual action plan to meet HUD

[4:55:46] deadlines and will execute the grants

[4:55:48] associated with the plan once additional

[4:55:51] clarity on federal requirements is

[4:55:53] received in the fall. City departments

[4:55:55] managing these awards will submit future

[4:55:58] legislation to authorize both the

[4:55:59] appropriation and expenditure of those

[4:56:02] funds. Emergency designation is

[4:56:03] requested to meet the deadlines

[4:56:04] previously mentioned uh to meet HUD's

[4:56:07] standards. Any questions or comments

[4:56:08] from my colleagues? Seeing none, I move

[4:56:10] for passage.

[4:56:10] » Second.

[4:56:11] » Clerk, please call the role.

[4:56:12] » Banks timber roster deodaw green remy

[4:56:15] Ross vice president Hard

[4:56:16] » Pass. Next we have ordinance 1700-2026

[4:56:20] to wave the provisions of section

[4:56:22] 329.18A1

[4:56:24] 329.18A2

[4:56:27] 3298

[4:56:30] A5 329.18

[4:56:33] B1 329.818 8118

[4:56:36] B2 329.18

[4:56:40] B5 329.18

[4:56:42] D2 329.18

[4:56:45] D4 329.18

[4:56:47] D5 329.22A

[4:56:50] 32923

[4:56:52] AAA 329.23A

[4:56:56] B 329.23

[4:56:58] A C 329.23BA

[4:57:01] 329.23 23 BB 329.23

[4:57:06] BC 329.27B2

[4:57:10] 329.27

[4:57:12] C 329.28B2

[4:57:16] and 329.28C

[4:57:19] of Columbus City codes that are in

[4:57:21] conflict with OC section 2 uh section

[4:57:25] 9.64 64 to allow for a controlled

[4:57:28] disclosure procurement process for

[4:57:30] qualifying technology related

[4:57:32] procurements and to declare an

[4:57:33] emergency. At some point, uh, city

[4:57:35] attorney, we have to talk about a more

[4:57:37] efficient way [laughter]

[4:57:41] to address those.

[4:57:42] » That's wild.

[4:57:46] Council members, this ordinance

[4:57:48] temporarily waves various provisions of

[4:57:50] section 329 of city code to provide the

[4:57:53] Department of Technology necessary

[4:57:55] latitude to procure cyber security

[4:57:57] related services, equipment, and

[4:57:59] software in alignment with the Ohio

[4:58:01] Revised Code section 9.64 through

[4:58:03] December 31st of this year. The

[4:58:05] Department of Finance and Management,

[4:58:07] the Department of Technology, and the

[4:58:08] City Attorney's Office are working

[4:58:10] together on amendments of chapter 329 of

[4:58:13] the Columbus City Codes to present to

[4:58:15] council later this year with the goal of

[4:58:17] permanently addressing the need to allow

[4:58:20] for uh different uh solicitation process

[4:58:23] for certain products and services that

[4:58:25] are necessary uh to the operations of

[4:58:27] the Department of Technology in response

[4:58:29] to the recent cyber security

[4:58:30] requirements for public entities found

[4:58:33] in Ohio Revised Code section 9.64 Are

[4:58:36] there any questions or comments from my

[4:58:37] colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

[4:58:39] passage,

[4:58:40] » Please call the role.

[4:58:41] » Banks Barosa de Akar, Dorance Green,

[4:58:44] Remy Ross, Vice President Hart.

[4:58:46] » Passed. Next, we have ordinance

[4:58:48] 1795-2026

[4:58:50] to amend the 2025 capital improvements

[4:58:52] budget to authorize the director of

[4:58:53] finance and management on behalf of the

[4:58:54] Department of Technology to associate

[4:58:56] all general budget reservations

[4:58:57] resulting from this ordinance with the

[4:58:59] appropriate universal term

[4:59:00] contract/purchase agreement with CW uh

[4:59:04] CDW government LLC for the procurement

[4:59:07] data storage equipment to authorize the

[4:59:10] expenditure from the information

[4:59:11] services geo bonds fund and to declare

[4:59:13] an emergency. Department of Technology

[4:59:15] manages the city's data centers and

[4:59:17] requires electronic storage to be

[4:59:19] available to ensure smooth operating of

[4:59:21] the city's infrastructure. Without

[4:59:23] sufficient electronic storage, the

[4:59:24] city's computer systems will not be able

[4:59:27] to function properly. The Department of

[4:59:28] Finance is establishing a purchase

[4:59:30] agreement with CDW uh government LLC for

[4:59:34] the acquisition of the necessary

[4:59:36] equipment. This ordinance is a companion

[4:59:38] piece to ordinance 1503-2026.

[4:59:41] Emergency action is requested in order

[4:59:44] to place the order by the quote deadline

[4:59:46] of July 7th, 2026. Due to increased

[4:59:49] industry demand for electronic data

[4:59:51] storage products, the received quote for

[4:59:53] the equipment is only guaranteed until

[4:59:55] July 7th, 2026. After July 7th, the

[4:59:58] manufacturer price are set to increase.

[5:00:00] Seeing no questions or comments from my

[5:00:02] colleagues, I'd move for passage.

[5:00:04] » Clerk, please call the role.

[5:00:05] » Thanks. Tim Barrosa de Aaron Green Remy

[5:00:08] Ross, Vice President Harden.

[5:00:09] » Pass. And finally, in the finance and

[5:00:11] governance committee, we have ordinance

[5:00:12] 1866-2026

[5:00:14] to authorize the finance and management

[5:00:16] director to enter into contract for the

[5:00:19] option to purchase water testing

[5:00:21] supplies with Environmental Resources

[5:00:23] Associates to authorize expenditure of

[5:00:25] $1 to wave the provisions of competitive

[5:00:27] bidding and to declare an emergency.

[5:00:29] This ordinance establishes a universal

[5:00:31] term contract for the option to purchase

[5:00:34] water testing supplies with

[5:00:35] Environmental Resource Associates.

[5:00:37] Division of water is the primary user of

[5:00:40] water testing supplies. Water testing

[5:00:42] supplies are to be used for municipal

[5:00:44] drinking water and wastewater testing as

[5:00:47] required by the Ohio Environmental

[5:00:48] Protection Agency. The purchase the

[5:00:51] purchasing office open formal bids in

[5:00:53] April and May for these supplies, but

[5:00:56] zero bids were received. As a result,

[5:00:58] the division of water desires to

[5:01:00] continue contracting with the current

[5:01:02] vendor environmental resource associates

[5:01:04] for these supplies. So a waiver of

[5:01:06] competitive bid is requested. Emergency

[5:01:08] designation is requested to avoid a

[5:01:10] prolonged lapse between the now expired

[5:01:12] contract and the resulting of a new

[5:01:14] contract. Are there any questions or

[5:01:16] comments from my colleagues? Seeing

[5:01:17] none, I move for passage.

[5:01:19] » Second.

[5:01:19] » Please call the role.

[5:01:20] » Thanks Denver Aar Dors Green Remy Ross.

[5:01:24] Vice President Harden

[5:01:25] » Passed.

[5:01:25] » Thank you council president. All have

[5:01:26] the finance committee. May I move to the

[5:01:28] economic development small minority

[5:01:29] business committee?

[5:01:30] » Sure.

[5:01:31] » Thank you. We are going to pick it up at

[5:01:34] ordinance 1511-2026

[5:01:36] to authorize the director of department

[5:01:38] of development to execute an amendment

[5:01:41] to the economic development agreement

[5:01:42] dated April 19th, 2024 between the city

[5:01:45] and Westbin QoZB LLC to remove the

[5:01:49] developer obligations related to the

[5:01:51] construction and delivery of office

[5:01:53] space in association with the Westbin

[5:01:55] project provided that the developer

[5:01:57] assumes the new obligation to deliver

[5:01:59] the apartments by a certain deadline.

[5:02:01] line to more quickly address the city's

[5:02:03] housing supply shortage. This ordinance

[5:02:05] amends a 2024 economic development

[5:02:08] agreement with West Bin QoZB related to

[5:02:12] the redevelopment of a former Buckeye

[5:02:14] Auto Parts property at 2474

[5:02:18] uh McKinley Avenue previously adopted by

[5:02:20] council. The ada authorized by this body

[5:02:23] in two 2023 via ordinance 1866-2023

[5:02:27] is a commitment from the department to

[5:02:30] the developer to bring forward

[5:02:31] subsequent legislation to council. While

[5:02:33] the EDA includes a commitment for the

[5:02:36] department to uh pursue a tax increment

[5:02:39] financing district at West Ben and a new

[5:02:42] or expanded new community authority

[5:02:44] there. These steps have not yet been

[5:02:45] taken. No enterprise zone agreement will

[5:02:48] be pursued due to the commercial office

[5:02:50] space being removed from the project.

[5:02:52] The project will already qualify for the

[5:02:54] community reinvestment area agreement.

[5:02:56] This will not require further

[5:02:57] legislation. More specifically, the

[5:02:59] original agreement committed to

[5:03:00] construction of of 20,000 square feet of

[5:03:03] office space where 10,000 square feet

[5:03:06] out of the 20,000 square feet would be

[5:03:09] de devoted to either a music

[5:03:11] industrybased incubator space in

[5:03:12] partnership with Music Columbus or a

[5:03:14] minority business incubator space with a

[5:03:17] 2B uh identified partner. Since the

[5:03:20] establishment of the EDA, the market

[5:03:21] conditions for the financing and

[5:03:23] construction of office space has

[5:03:25] continued to deteriorate to a point

[5:03:27] where it may, in many cases, it is no

[5:03:29] longer financially feasible to build and

[5:03:31] lease up the new office space.

[5:03:33] Maintaining 20,000 ft of office space

[5:03:35] for this project would destabilize the

[5:03:38] financial viability of the project, so

[5:03:40] the developer had to pull that uh plan

[5:03:42] out. Additionally, conversations with

[5:03:44] Music Columbus about the incubator

[5:03:46] fizzled out before the amendment was put

[5:03:49] forward. The the the commitments that

[5:03:51] still remain in the project are

[5:03:53] brownfield remediation of the site. So,

[5:03:56] bringing a brownfield site into a

[5:03:58] productive use, 700 apartments units

[5:04:02] where they will again utilize that CRA.

[5:04:04] So, 10% of the units are at 60% AMI, 10%

[5:04:07] are at 80% AMI or the option of 30% at

[5:04:11] 80% AMI. This is in alignment with our

[5:04:14] CRA so that the affordability would last

[5:04:16] at least 15 years. 8,000 square ft of

[5:04:19] retail space, a 12 to 17 acre uh public

[5:04:23] park with a lagoon, dog park, public

[5:04:25] kayak, launch, and uh trails, bikes,

[5:04:28] paths that will be conveyed to the city.

[5:04:31] In some this project cleans up an

[5:04:33] environmentally polluted site along the

[5:04:35] Sciota River that has 750 apartment

[5:04:38] units with affordability included and

[5:04:41] creates a public park with water uh

[5:04:43] recreation activities. Are there any

[5:04:45] questions or comments from my colleagues

[5:04:46] on this one? Seeing none, I move for

[5:04:49] passage by voice.

[5:04:51] » Cler, please call the role by voice.

[5:04:52] » Bankston,

[5:04:53] » Yes.

[5:04:54] » Verbosa Deodia,

[5:04:55] » Yes.

[5:04:56] » Deakau,

[5:04:57] » Yes.

[5:04:58] » Dorren,

[5:04:58] » Yes.

[5:04:59] » Green,

[5:05:00] » Yes. Remy,

[5:05:02] » Yes.

[5:05:02] » Ross,

[5:05:03] » Yes.

[5:05:03] » White,

[5:05:04] » Yes.

[5:05:05] » President Harden,

[5:05:06] » Yes.

[5:05:07] » Thank you. Uh, next we have ordinance

[5:05:09] 1702-2026 to amend the 2025 capital

[5:05:12] improvement budget to authorize the city

[5:05:14] auditor to transfer appropriations and

[5:05:15] cash between projects and divisions

[5:05:17] within the development taxable bond

[5:05:20] funds. to authorize the director of

[5:05:21] development to enter into a grant

[5:05:23] agreement with Columbus Next Generation

[5:05:25] Corporation to purchase, renovate, or

[5:05:27] construct real property assets in

[5:05:29] targeted central uh city areas to

[5:05:31] advance economic and community

[5:05:33] development initiatives to authorize the

[5:05:35] expenditure of $2.5 million from the

[5:05:38] development taxable bond fund to advance

[5:05:40] funding per predetermined schedule and

[5:05:42] to declare an emergency. This ordinance

[5:05:44] provides capital dollars to support the

[5:05:47] ongoing under urban redevelopment

[5:05:49] efforts of Columbus Next Generation

[5:05:51] Corporation, the city's primary property

[5:05:53] acquisition and urban redevelopment

[5:05:54] vehicle. Are there any questions or

[5:05:56] comments from my colleagues? Seeing

[5:05:57] none, I move for passage.

[5:05:58] » Second.

[5:06:00] » Thanks. Denver Rosa de Padilla de Akawa,

[5:06:02] Doran Green, Remy Ross, Vice President

[5:06:04] Harden.

[5:06:06] » Uh, thank you. And last uh we have

[5:06:08] ordinance 1861-2026

[5:06:10] to authorize an amendment to the 2025

[5:06:13] capital improvements budget to authorize

[5:06:14] the transfer between projects and

[5:06:16] departments within the development

[5:06:18] taxable bond fund to authorize the

[5:06:19] director and department of development

[5:06:21] to enter into a grant agreement with

[5:06:24] Columbus Franklin County Finance

[5:06:25] Authority to provide funding for urban

[5:06:28] redevelopment projects and to authorize

[5:06:29] the expenditure of $4 million from the

[5:06:31] development taxable bond fund and the

[5:06:33] declared emergency. Uh, this ordinance

[5:06:35] provides funds to the Columbus Franklin

[5:06:37] County Finance Authority for their

[5:06:39] continued partnership in providing gap

[5:06:41] funding for projects within city's urban

[5:06:43] core and adjacent neighborhoods in order

[5:06:45] to facilitate projects that will assist

[5:06:47] in the revitalization of properties.

[5:06:49] This partnership helps fill funding gaps

[5:06:51] for the redevelopment of smaller scale

[5:06:54] projects in traditional neighborhood

[5:06:56] corridors since urban redevelopment

[5:06:58] projects often encounter issues not

[5:07:00] experienced by new build projects or

[5:07:02] projects uh not built on underdeveloped

[5:07:05] land. Are there any questions or

[5:07:07] comments from my colleagues? Seeing

[5:07:08] none, I move for passage.

[5:07:09] » Second caller.

[5:07:11] » Thanks Denver Rosa Deia de Akar Dorance

[5:07:13] Green Remy Ross Vice President Harden.

[5:07:16] » Thank you council president. That's all

[5:07:17] I have in my committees this evening.

[5:07:18] Thank you, Mr. Chair. Next committee to

[5:07:20] come before council is the public

[5:07:21] service and transportation committee.

[5:07:22] That committee is chair by council bro.

[5:07:24] Councilman, the floor is yours.

[5:07:25] » Good job, Council Member Benson. That

[5:07:26] was impressive. Uh I have four items on

[5:07:30] second reading, public services and

[5:07:32] transportation. First is ordinance

[5:07:34] 14972026

[5:07:35] to amend the 2025 capital improvement

[5:07:37] budget to authorize the city auditor to

[5:07:40] transfer funds between projects within

[5:07:42] the streets and highways bond fund to

[5:07:43] authorize the city auditor to

[5:07:45] appropriate $324,460

[5:07:49] within the federal transportation grants

[5:07:50] fund to authorize the city attorney's

[5:07:52] office real estate division to contract

[5:07:54] for professional services relative to

[5:07:56] the acquisition of fee simple title and

[5:07:58] lesser interest in and to prop lesser

[5:08:02] interest in and who property needed for

[5:08:04] the bikeway uh state route 161 sawmill

[5:08:07] to Thompson project to authorize the

[5:08:08] city attorney's office real estate

[5:08:10] division to negotiate with property

[5:08:12] owners to acquire the additional rights

[5:08:14] of way necessary to complete this

[5:08:15] project to authorize the expenditure of

[5:08:17] 1,324,46056

[5:08:22] from the streets and highways bond fund

[5:08:23] for the federal transportation grant

[5:08:25] fund and to declare an emergency. This

[5:08:28] project is located on the Vision Zero

[5:08:30] high injury network due to the number of

[5:08:31] serious or fatal crashes and/or crashes

[5:08:34] involving vulnerable roadway users like

[5:08:37] people walking, biking or on

[5:08:38] motorcycles. The bikeway

[5:08:41] 161 sawmill to Thompson in districts one

[5:08:44] and two project consists of a new shared

[5:08:46] use path along the north side of state

[5:08:48] route 161 from Sawmill Road to Brookown

[5:08:51] Drive and along the south side from

[5:08:53] Brooktown Drive to Thompson Street with

[5:08:56] sidewalk along the south side of 161

[5:08:59] from Sawmill Road to Federated Boulevard

[5:09:02] and the north side from McVey Boulevard

[5:09:04] to Thompson Street. Uh this also

[5:09:07] includes two pedestrian hybrid beacons

[5:09:09] or push button pedestrian signals are

[5:09:11] proposed at Brooktown and McVey. A

[5:09:14] person who wants to cross the street can

[5:09:15] push the button to activate the solid

[5:09:17] red light that alerts motorists that the

[5:09:19] crosswalk um is active so that

[5:09:22] pedestrians can cross. Uh the Department

[5:09:24] of Public Service is currently

[5:09:25] finalizing construction plans and is

[5:09:27] prepared to authorize rights of way

[5:09:29] acquisition pending the passing passage

[5:09:32] of this funding legislation. Do my

[5:09:34] colleagues have any questions or

[5:09:35] comments? Seeing none, I move for

[5:09:36] passage.

[5:09:40] » Thanks. Timber Rosa de Padilla de Aar

[5:09:42] Dorins Green Remy Ross Vice President

[5:09:44] Harden.

[5:09:46] » Thank you. Next is 1538 20226 to amend

[5:09:48] the 2025 capital improvement budget to

[5:09:52] appropriate funds within the federal

[5:09:53] transportation grants fund to authorize

[5:09:55] the director of public service to enter

[5:09:56] into contract with Dector Construction

[5:09:58] Company for the resurfacing downtown

[5:10:00] concrete pad bus pad upgrades project to

[5:10:04] authorize the expenditure of 1,250,8745

[5:10:10] from the streets and highways bond fund

[5:10:12] and the federal transportation grants

[5:10:13] fund for the project to repay any unused

[5:10:15] grant funds at the end of the project

[5:10:17] and to declare an emergency. So, this

[5:10:19] contract includes upgrading uh KOD bus

[5:10:22] stops by adding concrete bus pads in 31

[5:10:25] locations where they do not exist within

[5:10:27] the Columbus downtown business district.

[5:10:30] This is actually to fortify the

[5:10:32] infrastructure on the streets to um

[5:10:35] support the weight of the buses at these

[5:10:37] uh bus stops. This is a project that we

[5:10:40] are partnering with ODOT with and the

[5:10:42] notice to proceed date is June 24th

[5:10:44] 2026. Do my colleagues have any

[5:10:46] questions or comments? Seeing none, I

[5:10:48] move for passage.

[5:10:51] » Thanks Denver Rosa de Padilla de Akawar

[5:10:53] Dorance Green Remy Ross vice president

[5:10:54] Harden.

[5:10:56] » Thank you. Next is ordinance 16852026 to

[5:10:59] authorize the director of the department

[5:11:00] of finance and management to enter in a

[5:11:02] contract with William Scotman

[5:11:04] Incorporated doing business as Will

[5:11:06] Scott for the purchase of one mobile

[5:11:08] office unit to wave the competitive

[5:11:10] busing provisions of Columbus City Code

[5:11:12] to authorize the expenditure of $31,312

[5:11:16] from the street construction maintenance

[5:11:17] and repair fund and to declare an

[5:11:19] emergency. The mobile office uh unit

[5:11:22] houses city CDL training program that is

[5:11:26] utilized by multiple departments. The

[5:11:27] CDL training program ensures appropriate

[5:11:30] staffing is available to perform the

[5:11:31] vital functions needed to maintain city

[5:11:33] streets. Their mobile office has been on

[5:11:35] a rental service contract since June

[5:11:37] 2025. The ordinance will allow the city

[5:11:40] to purchase the mobile office unit

[5:11:41] trailer directly at a discounted rate

[5:11:43] offered by the vendor instead of

[5:11:45] continuing to rent, which will help to

[5:11:46] preserve budgeted funds. Do my

[5:11:48] colleagues have any questions or

[5:11:49] comments? Seeing none, move for passage.

[5:11:53] » Bankston, Barosa de Padilla de Akar,

[5:11:55] Doris Green, Remy Ross White, President

[5:11:58] I'm sorry.

[5:11:59] » Thank you.

[5:11:59] » I'm invited. Let me go back because I've

[5:12:01] missed a couple names. Banks Barrosa

[5:12:04] Deia de Aar Doris Green Remy Ross White

[5:12:07] President Hart.

[5:12:08] » Thank you.

[5:12:09] » Thank you. Next, we have ordinance uh

[5:12:13] 1689 2026 to appropriate funds within

[5:12:16] the Ohio Public Works Commission Grants

[5:12:18] and Loans Fund to authorize the Director

[5:12:19] of Public Service to enter into contract

[5:12:21] with Complete General Construction

[5:12:23] Company for the Signals North Fourth

[5:12:25] Street phase 1 project to authorize the

[5:12:28] expenditure of up to 4,5,75862

[5:12:33] from the street construction maintenance

[5:12:35] and repair fund and the OPWC

[5:12:38] grants loans fund for the project and to

[5:12:41] repay any unused grant funds at the end

[5:12:43] of the grant period and to declare an

[5:12:45] emergency. This contract includes

[5:12:47] replacing and upgrading signals along

[5:12:49] North Fourth Street at five

[5:12:51] intersections. North Fourth Street, East

[5:12:53] 1st Avenue, East 2nd Avenue, East 5th

[5:12:56] Avenue, East 7th Avenue, East 17th

[5:12:58] Avenue in districts 7 and four. This

[5:13:02] includes new signal poles, controllers,

[5:13:04] wiring, uh radar detection poles,

[5:13:07] incidental lighting, power distribution,

[5:13:09] storm water, storm sewer, water, and

[5:13:11] other works as may be necessary. Uh do

[5:13:14] my colleagues have any questions or

[5:13:15] comments.

[5:13:17] Seeing none, I move for passage.

[5:13:20] » Thanks, Timber Rosa, Deodia de Akar,

[5:13:22] Dorance Green, Remy Ross, Vice President

[5:13:24] Harden.

[5:13:26] » Thank you. That's all for me.

[5:13:29] is the neighborhood recreation and parks

[5:13:30] committee chair by council member

[5:13:31] Deakar. Council member, the floor is

[5:13:32] yours.

[5:13:33] » Thank you, council president. First, we

[5:13:35] have ordinance 1731-2026

[5:13:38] to authorize the Director of Recreation

[5:13:39] and Parks to enter into a grant

[5:13:41] agreement with the Ohio Department of

[5:13:42] Transportation to support the Big Walnut

[5:13:45] Trail Little Turtle to Cherry Bottom

[5:13:47] Park project and accept a grant in the

[5:13:49] amount of $7,92,344

[5:13:53] to authorize the appropriation of

[5:13:55] $7,92,344

[5:13:57] in the recreation parks grant fund and

[5:13:59] to declare an emergency. This grant that

[5:14:02] the department has received from Warpsy

[5:14:04] will pay for 70% of the total cost to

[5:14:06] construct a new portion of the Big

[5:14:08] Walnut Trail connecting Little Turtle

[5:14:10] and Cherry Bottom Park in the northeast

[5:14:12] area of the city. This trail includes an

[5:14:15] underpass beneath beneath State Highway

[5:14:17] 161, a direct connection to Blendinwoods

[5:14:20] Metrop Park, a stream crossing to

[5:14:22] connect the Northland neighborhood on

[5:14:24] the west side of the river, and a

[5:14:25] section of trail along Sunbury Road

[5:14:27] linking to the Alam Creek Trail. over

[5:14:30] 15,000 Columbus residents live in

[5:14:32] neighborhoods served by this new trail

[5:14:34] section. Once completed, the trail will

[5:14:36] connect residents to retail, health

[5:14:38] care, and over 40,000 jobs at major

[5:14:41] destinations, including Easton and the

[5:14:43] North Hamilton Road mixeduse corridor.

[5:14:45] Construction is expected to begin in

[5:14:47] fall of this year. Are there any

[5:14:49] questions or comments from my

[5:14:50] colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

[5:14:52] passage.

[5:14:54] » Banks timber podia de a dwan green remy

[5:14:57] ros reie ros vice president hard

[5:15:03] » For the next ordinance in my committee.

[5:15:05] I would like to turn the floor over to

[5:15:07] council member Barosa de pedia to read

[5:15:09] and call the vote as she has been a

[5:15:11] leader in supporting the initiative

[5:15:12] being funded. Council member the floor

[5:15:14] is yours.

[5:15:15] » Thank you chair and I'm back. Uh, next

[5:15:18] are ordinance 1797206

[5:15:21] to authorize and direct the city clerk

[5:15:23] to enter a grant agreement with Epic

[5:15:25] Youth to provide upfront financial

[5:15:26] support for the organization's event,

[5:15:28] the Girls Will Summit, commemorating the

[5:15:31] International Day of the Girl to

[5:15:32] authorize an expenditure from the

[5:15:34] neighborhood sub fund. Um, I am very

[5:15:38] proud to be a sponsor of this ordinance

[5:15:40] and want to thank the women's caucus for

[5:15:42] their support. This is the fourth year

[5:15:44] that we will work with Epic Youth to

[5:15:46] provide a free conference to girls in

[5:15:48] Columbus City Schools. The conference

[5:15:50] helped to helps to increase leadership

[5:15:52] confidence, career awareness, STEM

[5:15:54] exposure, and more to help students view

[5:15:56] themselves as capable leaders and

[5:15:58] professionals for academic, personal,

[5:16:00] and professional success. We've done

[5:16:02] amazing things. We've had a group of uh

[5:16:04] students from Spellman that have

[5:16:06] actually come to uh show we've had 4 to

[5:16:09] 500 girls to to um expose them to STEM.

[5:16:12] They've learned everything from making

[5:16:14] their own makeup to perfume to creating

[5:16:17] beats and more and how STEM can be part

[5:16:19] of their lives. So, we're very proud of

[5:16:21] the work that we've been able to do and

[5:16:23] I just want to thank my colleagues for

[5:16:25] continuing to um support uh girls in

[5:16:29] STEM, especially black and brown girls.

[5:16:31] Uh, do my colleagues have any questions

[5:16:32] or comments? Seeing none, I move for

[5:16:34] passage.

[5:16:36] » Thanks. Simba Rosa Deia de Aar Dors

[5:16:39] Green Remy Ross Vice President Harden.

[5:16:42] » Thank you. And thank you, Council

[5:16:45] President. Our last ordinance in this

[5:16:47] committee tonight is ordinance 1835-2026

[5:16:51] to authorize the city clerk to enter

[5:16:52] into a grant agreement with the National

[5:16:55] Veterans Memorial and Museum Operating

[5:16:57] Corporation to provide upfront financial

[5:16:59] support for the September 11th day of

[5:17:01] service to authorize an appropriation

[5:17:03] and expenditure from the neighborhood

[5:17:05] initiative sub fund and to declare an

[5:17:07] emergency. This is the ordinance that I

[5:17:09] referenced at the top of our meeting for

[5:17:11] which Colonel Butler provided remarks.

[5:17:13] So, I will be brief and just reiterate

[5:17:16] that the Memorial Museum is looking to

[5:17:18] evolve their traditional September 11th

[5:17:20] remembrance efforts into a citywide call

[5:17:23] to service and civic engagement. The 911

[5:17:26] Day of Service will mobilize volunteers

[5:17:28] and community organizations, activate

[5:17:30] neighborhood-based service projects, and

[5:17:32] deliver high impact service outcomes

[5:17:34] directly benefiting those in need. The

[5:17:37] cornerstone event will be a meal packing

[5:17:39] service project hosted at NVMM, inviting

[5:17:42] hundreds of volunteers across the city

[5:17:44] to help support our food insecure

[5:17:46] neighbors. I want to thank my

[5:17:47] colleagues, council members Remy and

[5:17:49] Ross, for supporting this impactful new

[5:17:51] initiative, and I look forward to

[5:17:52] honoring 911 in an exciting new way this

[5:17:55] year in Columbus. Are there any

[5:17:57] questions or comments from my

[5:17:58] colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

[5:18:00] passage.

[5:18:02] » Thanks. Barrosa de Padilla de aar dors

[5:18:04] green remy Ross vice president Harden

[5:18:07] » Thank you that's all for me council

[5:18:08] president

[5:18:10] » Thank you madam chair next committee

[5:18:11] coming before council is the workforce

[5:18:12] education labor committee chair press 10

[5:18:14] president Tim the floor is yours

[5:18:15] » Thank you first we have orders number um

[5:18:18] 1704-226

[5:18:19] to approve a memory and understanding

[5:18:21] number 2026-1

[5:18:23] executed represent the city of Columbus

[5:18:24] and the communication workers of America

[5:18:27] local 452 to amend appendix B of the

[5:18:30] collective bar agreement stated April

[5:18:31] 24th 2023 3 through April 23rd, 2026 by

[5:18:34] creating a signing pay to the watershed

[5:18:36] operations manager and wershed

[5:18:38] maintenance supervisor classification

[5:18:39] Columbus water and power and declared

[5:18:40] emergency. Uh this legislation updates

[5:18:43] the city bargaining agreements between

[5:18:44] CWA local 452 to accept anou creating

[5:18:47] the job classification wershed

[5:18:49] operations manager and watershed

[5:18:51] maintenance supervisor unless there's

[5:18:53] any questions comments. I move for

[5:18:54] passage.

[5:18:56] » Thanks Timber Rosa Deodia de Aar Dors

[5:18:58] Green Remy Ross vice president Harden.

[5:19:01] Thank you. Next, we have ordinance

[5:19:02] number 1897-226

[5:19:05] to authorize the director office of

[5:19:06] education to enter a nonfor-profit

[5:19:08] service agreement contract with that no

[5:19:10] can in support of Columbus promise

[5:19:11] program to authorize reimbursement and

[5:19:12] qualified expenditures incurred prior to

[5:19:14] the creation of this purchase order to

[5:19:16] authorize expensure within the general

[5:19:17] fund of $1,333,53

[5:19:20] to declare and declare an emergency. Uh

[5:19:22] this legislation is service contract

[5:19:23] support the great work of Columbus's

[5:19:25] promise, a council initiative led by

[5:19:26] council president Harden. I'd love to

[5:19:28] turn the floor over to him and he's

[5:19:29] shaking his head because it's late at

[5:19:31] night. Uh want to thank him for his

[5:19:33] leadership on this matter and unless

[5:19:36] anyone else has any questions or

[5:19:36] comments I will move for passage.

[5:19:38] » Clerk please call the role.

[5:19:40] » Banks Tim Rosa de Akar Dors Green Remy

[5:19:43] Ross vice president Hart

[5:19:44] » Pass. That's all I have my committee

[5:19:46] sir.

[5:19:46] » We go.

[5:19:48] » Thank you Mr. Chair. Uh next committee

[5:19:50] come before council is the health and

[5:19:53] human services committee and equity

[5:19:55] committee. Committee is chaired by

[5:19:56] council member uh Green. Council member

[5:19:58] Flojours.

[5:19:59] » Thank you so much, Council President

[5:20:00] Tainer, Health, Human Services, and

[5:20:01] Equity Committee. We have one ordinance

[5:20:03] on second reading. It's ordinance

[5:20:05] 1952-2026

[5:20:06] to authorize the city clerk to enter

[5:20:08] into an advanced payment grant agreement

[5:20:10] with uh Columbus Coalition for the

[5:20:12] Homeless in support of trash removal,

[5:20:14] safe storage, and hygiene initiatives

[5:20:15] for the city's unsheltered population to

[5:20:18] authorize the [snorts] appropriation of

[5:20:19] $17,500

[5:20:22] and expenditure of $125,000 within the

[5:20:25] neighborhood initiative sub fund. Um, if

[5:20:28] there are no comments or questions from

[5:20:30] my colleagues, I move to postpone this

[5:20:32] ordinance to council's June 29th agenda.

[5:20:35] Second,

[5:20:35] » Clerk, please call the row.

[5:20:37] » Thanks, Tim. Rosa, deodia de a dors

[5:20:40] green, Remy Ross, vice president Harden.

[5:20:43] » Postponed to June 29th.

[5:20:44] » Thank you so much, Council President.

[5:20:45] That's all for me.

[5:20:46] » Thank you, Madam Chair. Next committee

[5:20:48] to come before council is the public

[5:20:49] safety and criminal justice committee.

[5:20:50] That committee is chair by council

[5:20:51] member uh Remy. Council member, floor is

[5:20:54] yours.

[5:20:54] » Thank you very much, council president.

[5:20:55] Tonight in the public safety and

[5:20:56] criminal justice committee, I have seven

[5:20:58] ordinances for second read. First is

[5:20:59] 1563 2026 to authorize and direct the

[5:21:02] city attorney to settle the lawsuit

[5:21:04] captioned Rack Ruan Freeman versus City

[5:21:07] of Columbus at all Franklin County

[5:21:09] Police Court case number 25c 5292 to

[5:21:13] authorize the expenditure of sum of

[5:21:15] $75,000 in settlement of this lawsuit to

[5:21:18] authorize the payment or excuse me the

[5:21:20] transfer of 75,000 from the general fund

[5:21:22] and to declare an emergency. I would

[5:21:25] like to turn it over to Brian Shin, the

[5:21:26] deputy chief of staff at the city

[5:21:27] attorney's office to give us a little

[5:21:29] bit more details on this.

[5:21:30] » Chair Reie, Council President, members

[5:21:32] of council. Mr. Freeman was a passenger

[5:21:35] in a vehicle that was involved in an

[5:21:38] automobile accident with a city employee

[5:21:41] driving a city-owned vehicle during the

[5:21:43] course of his employment. lawsuit was

[5:21:46] filed in common please court seeking

[5:21:48] damages for bodily injury requiring

[5:21:52] medical treatment and physical therapy.

[5:21:54] Planiff also asserted claims for lost

[5:21:57] wages. After discovery, the city

[5:22:00] attorney's office determined that there

[5:22:02] was a likelihood that the city could be

[5:22:04] held liable and ordered to pay an award

[5:22:07] of damages to the plaintiff. Therefore,

[5:22:10] it is in the best interest of the city

[5:22:12] to settle this lawsuit and we

[5:22:15] respectfully request council's approval.

[5:22:18] I would be happy to answer any

[5:22:20] questions.

[5:22:22] » Thank you very much, Mr. Shin. I'm going

[5:22:24] to turn over to Deputy Director

[5:22:25] Hollerin. Can you speak to whether or

[5:22:27] not uh there were any disciplines issued

[5:22:29] in this case and in general how we're

[5:22:31] trying to avoid these types of

[5:22:33] situations in the future?

[5:22:35] » President Harden, Chair Reie, thank you.

[5:22:37] Uh yes, there was a discipline issued a

[5:22:40] written reprimand to the individual

[5:22:42] driver of the vehicle. Um since uh over

[5:22:46] the last six to eight months, the

[5:22:48] division of fire has made several

[5:22:50] changes to its its uh policy and driving

[5:22:54] operations. First thing they've done is

[5:22:56] updated the driving policy. They've

[5:22:58] issued video training. They've required

[5:23:01] driving credential to be renewed when

[5:23:03] firefighter credential is renewed, which

[5:23:06] uh includes reviewing the driving policy

[5:23:08] and taking driving um related classes.

[5:23:12] They've also issued a job performance

[5:23:14] skill sheets related to driving and

[5:23:16] training new and existing firefighters,

[5:23:17] including those in need of remedial

[5:23:19] training um on those specific job

[5:23:21] performance skill sheets. And they've

[5:23:23] also the division of fires also updated

[5:23:26] the division's crash accountability

[5:23:28] procedures to ensure that there's a

[5:23:30] consistent review of the cause of the

[5:23:33] crash and if there's any training or

[5:23:35] policy changes that could be made

[5:23:36] systematically

[5:23:38] » Thank you very much deputy director do

[5:23:40] any of my colleagues have any questions

[5:23:41] or comments seeing none I move for

[5:23:43] passage

[5:23:45] » Please call the role

[5:23:46] » Thanks temposia de a dor screen remy

[5:23:48] boss vice president Harden

[5:23:50] » Pass next3

[5:23:52] 2026 to authorize the expenditure of

[5:23:54] 210,000 from the general fund for the

[5:23:55] third year of a three-year contract with

[5:23:57] Sound Thinking, Inc., formerly Shot

[5:23:59] Spotter, Inc. for use of a gun detection

[5:24:01] alert and analysis program in the phase

[5:24:03] 2 coverage area to wave the competitive

[5:24:05] bidding provisions of the Columbus City

[5:24:06] Code and to declare an emergency. This

[5:24:08] ordinance authorizes the funding for the

[5:24:10] third year of the subscriptionbased

[5:24:12] service, which will run from June 30th,

[5:24:14] 2026 through June 29th, 2027. A bid

[5:24:17] waiver is requested due to the

[5:24:18] established relationship and the

[5:24:20] existing technology in place. Emergency

[5:24:22] action is requested to continue sound

[5:24:24] thinking services without interruption.

[5:24:26] Are there any questions or comments from

[5:24:28] my colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

[5:24:30] passage.

[5:24:31] » Second.

[5:24:32] » Please call the role.

[5:24:33] » Bank Rosia de Akar Dors Green Remy Ross,

[5:24:36] Vice President Harden.

[5:24:37] » Pass.

[5:24:38] » Next. 1637 20226 to authorize and direct

[5:24:41] the city auditor to transfer 5,10,5776

[5:24:46] within various projects of the safety

[5:24:47] voted bond fund to amend the 2025

[5:24:49] capital improvement budget to weigh the

[5:24:51] competitive bidding provisions of the

[5:24:52] Columbus City Code Chapter 329 to

[5:24:54] authorize the finance and management

[5:24:55] director to enter into a contract with

[5:24:58] and issue a purchase order to Atlantic

[5:25:00] Emergency Solutions Inc. for the

[5:25:01] purchase of four Pierce Enforcer pumpers

[5:25:04] to authorize the expenditure of

[5:25:05] $5,10,000

[5:25:07] $976 from the voter safety voted voted

[5:25:12] bond fund and to declare an emergency. I

[5:25:14] want to announce that we are going to

[5:25:15] postpone this ordinance till the June

[5:25:17] 29th hearing. Um sorry council meeting

[5:25:20] because we have a hearing this week and

[5:25:21] we'd like to consider this during that

[5:25:24] hearing. Um it'll allow us to take

[5:25:26] additional time to understand the needs

[5:25:28] of our fire department. So with that I

[5:25:30] move for to postpone till the June 29th

[5:25:32] council meeting.

[5:25:33] » Clerk please call the row.

[5:25:34] » Banks Timber Rosa de Padilla de Aar Dors

[5:25:37] Green Remy Ross W President Harden

[5:25:39] » Postponed.

[5:25:40] » Next is 1759 2026 to authorize the

[5:25:42] finance management director to associate

[5:25:44] all general budget reservations

[5:25:46] resulting from this ordinance with the

[5:25:47] appropriate universal term contract

[5:25:49] purchase agreement established with Axon

[5:25:51] Enterprise Inc. for the lease and

[5:25:53] maintenance of bodywn cameras, CEWs,

[5:25:55] interview room cameras, and accessory

[5:25:56] software license maintenance and support

[5:25:58] of the Division of Police to authorize

[5:26:00] the expenditure of $4,478,18

[5:26:03] from the general fund and to declare an

[5:26:05] emergency. This ordinance sets aside

[5:26:07] funding for bodywn cameras, tasers,

[5:26:08] interview room cameras, and the

[5:26:10] associated software licensing and

[5:26:12] support for the Division of Police.

[5:26:14] Emergency action is requested to

[5:26:15] maintain daily operations and ensure

[5:26:17] timely development of this equipment.

[5:26:19] Are there any questions or comments from

[5:26:20] my colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

[5:26:22] passage. Cler,

[5:26:23] » Please call the role.

[5:26:24] » Bank Simberia de Akar Dors Green Remy

[5:26:27] Ross W President Harden

[5:26:29] » Passed. Next is 1854 2026 to authorize

[5:26:31] the director of the Department of Public

[5:26:33] Safety to enter into a contract with

[5:26:34] Carasoft

[5:26:36] Technology Corporation to renew Celbrite

[5:26:38] software licenses used to extract

[5:26:41] digital evidence from cellular devices

[5:26:43] to wave the competitive bidding

[5:26:44] provisions of the Columbus City Code to

[5:26:46] authorize the expenditure of $330,687.75

[5:26:50] for the law enforcement seizure fund and

[5:26:52] to declare an emergency. This ordinance

[5:26:54] authorized the renewal of a software

[5:26:56] that allows the digital forensics unit

[5:26:59] to unlock and decrypt phones in order to

[5:27:01] extract digital digital evidence linking

[5:27:03] suspects to crime. A bid waiver is

[5:27:05] requested because celbrite is the only

[5:27:08] software compatible with the unit's

[5:27:09] existing equipment. Emergency action is

[5:27:12] requested to renew the license before

[5:27:13] the deadline and avoid disruption to

[5:27:15] ongoing investigations. Are there any

[5:27:17] questions or comments from my

[5:27:18] colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

[5:27:19] passage.

[5:27:20] » Please call the role.

[5:27:21] » Thanks. Dia de Aar Dorren Green Remy

[5:27:24] Ross vice president Hart

[5:27:26] » Pass.

[5:27:26] » Next is 1857 2026 to authorize the

[5:27:28] director of public safety to enter into

[5:27:30] a contract for maintenance and repair

[5:27:31] services for the division of police

[5:27:34] crime lab instruments with life

[5:27:35] technologies corporation to wave the

[5:27:37] competitive bidding provisions of the

[5:27:38] Columbus city code to authorize the

[5:27:40] expenditure of $72,89.32

[5:27:43] from the general fund and to declare an

[5:27:44] emergency. This ordinance [snorts]

[5:27:46] authorizes maintenance and repair of

[5:27:47] equipment used to process and present

[5:27:49] evidence for criminal prosecution. A bid

[5:27:52] waiver is requested because Life

[5:27:53] Technologies Corporation is a sole

[5:27:54] manufacturer and provider of maintenance

[5:27:56] services for the equipment. Emergency

[5:27:58] action is requested to renew the service

[5:28:00] agreement before it expires. Are there

[5:28:02] any questions or comments from my

[5:28:03] colleagues? Seeing none, I move for

[5:28:05] passage.

[5:28:06] » Please call the role.

[5:28:07] » Thanks. Deborrosa de Akawas Green Remy

[5:28:10] Ross Vice President Harden pass. And

[5:28:13] finally, I have 1841 2026 to authorize

[5:28:15] the director of the office of violence

[5:28:16] prevention to enter into contract with

[5:28:18] the center of ch child and family

[5:28:20] advocacy at Nationwide Children's

[5:28:22] Hospital for Domestic Violence Support

[5:28:24] Services related to the advocacy crisis

[5:28:26] team program in partnership with the

[5:28:28] Columbus Division of Police to authorize

[5:28:30] the expenditure of 300,000 from the

[5:28:32] general fund and to declare an

[5:28:33] emergency. I move to postpone to the

[5:28:35] June 29th agenda.

[5:28:36] » Second, please call the row.

[5:28:38] » Thanks. Next roa de padia de aar dors

[5:28:41] green remy ros president Harden

[5:28:43] » Postponed and with that thank you that

[5:28:45] is all I have this

[5:28:46] » Thank you mr chair final committee come

[5:28:48] for council is the public utilities and

[5:28:50] sustainability committee chaired by

[5:28:51] council member white council member the

[5:28:53] floor is yours

[5:28:54] » Thank you council [snorts] president uh

[5:28:55] tonight in public utilities and

[5:28:57] sustainability committee I have

[5:28:58] ordinance 1425-2026

[5:29:01] to authorize the director of public

[5:29:02] utilities to enter into a construction

[5:29:04] contract with driven excavating LLC for

[5:29:07] the Velma Avenue area waterline

[5:29:09] improvements project to amend the 2025

[5:29:11] capital improvement budget to authorize

[5:29:13] the director of public utilities to

[5:29:15] apply for and accept a loan from the

[5:29:17] Ohio Water Development Authority direct

[5:29:19] loan program for the Young's Drive area

[5:29:21] waterline improvements project to

[5:29:23] appropriate funds within the water

[5:29:24] freshwater market rate fund to authorize

[5:29:27] the appropriation expenditure of up to

[5:29:29] 5,914,181

[5:29:33] from the waterfresh water market rate

[5:29:35] fund for the contract to make this

[5:29:37] ordinance contingent upon Ohio Water

[5:29:38] Development Authority approving a loan

[5:29:40] for the project and to authorize the

[5:29:42] expenditure of up to two $2,000 from the

[5:29:44] water bond fund to pay for prevailing

[5:29:46] wage services. This project consists of

[5:29:48] the installation of approximately 10,000

[5:29:50] plus linear feet of new water manes as

[5:29:53] well as the replacement of privately

[5:29:54] owned lead service lines. This project

[5:29:56] will improve water service, reduce

[5:29:58] burden on water maintenance operations,

[5:30:00] and minimize water [clears throat] loss.

[5:30:02] Let me stop there, see if any questions

[5:30:03] or comments from my colleagues. Seeing

[5:30:05] none, I move for passage. clerk please

[5:30:07] call the role.

[5:30:08] » Thanks Timber Roso Deadia de Aka or

[5:30:10] Doris Green Remy Ross Swice President

[5:30:12] Harden

[5:30:13] » Passed. Thank you. The next two

[5:30:15] ordinances procure construction

[5:30:17] administration and inspection services

[5:30:19] for two specified division of water

[5:30:21] reclamation projects. Uh these services

[5:30:23] will ensure that the projects remain on

[5:30:25] track and adhere to contract

[5:30:26] specifications. So, first I have

[5:30:28] ordinance 1459-2026

[5:30:30] to authorize the director of public

[5:30:32] utilities to enter into a gaunt track

[5:30:34] modification for construction

[5:30:35] administration and inspection services

[5:30:37] with DLZ Ohio Incorporated for the

[5:30:40] blueprint one Palmetto Westgate

[5:30:42] permeable pavers and waterline

[5:30:44] improvements project and for the

[5:30:45] construction administration services

[5:30:47] 2026 to 2028 to amend the 2025 capital

[5:30:51] improvement budget to authorize the

[5:30:53] appropriation and expenditure of up to

[5:30:55] 1,250,4

[5:30:56] $410.83 83 from the water pollution

[5:31:00] control loan fund and an appropriation

[5:31:03] and expenditure of up to $453,14347

[5:31:08] from the water freshwater market rate

[5:31:10] fund for the contract modification to

[5:31:13] authorize the director of public

[5:31:14] utilities to apply for and accept a loan

[5:31:16] from the water freshwater market for the

[5:31:18] Palmet Palmetto Westgate waterline

[5:31:21] improvements project and to make this

[5:31:24] ordinance contingent upon the Ohio Water

[5:31:26] Development Authority approving a loan

[5:31:27] for the project. Let me stop there. See

[5:31:29] if any questions or comments from my

[5:31:30] colleagues. Seeing none, I move for

[5:31:31] passage.

[5:31:33] » Please call the role.

[5:31:34] » Thanks. Temper Rosa Deia de Akaw Dors

[5:31:36] Green Remy Ross swipes. President Harden

[5:31:38] » Pass. Thank you. And next I have

[5:31:40] 1475-2026

[5:31:42] to authorize the director of public

[5:31:43] utilities to enter into a contract

[5:31:45] modification for the construction

[5:31:47] administration inspection services 2026

[5:31:49] 2028 contract with Hatch Associates

[5:31:52] Consultants Incorporated for the Belmont

[5:31:54] Avenue Area Waterline Improvements

[5:31:56] Project and for the Construction

[5:31:57] Administration services 2026 to 2028

[5:32:00] project to add additional funding to

[5:32:03] authorize the director of public

[5:32:04] utilities to apply for and accept a loan

[5:32:06] from the Ohio Water Development

[5:32:07] Authority Direct Loan Program. program

[5:32:09] for the Youngs Drive area water line

[5:32:11] improvements project to appropriate

[5:32:12] funds within the water freshwater market

[5:32:14] rate fund to amend the 2025 capital

[5:32:17] improvement budget to authorize a

[5:32:18] transfer of cash and appropriation

[5:32:20] between projects within the water bond

[5:32:21] fund to authorize the appropriation and

[5:32:23] expenditure of up to 1,300,000

[5:32:26] from the water freshwater market rate

[5:32:28] fund and an expenditure of up to 75,000

[5:32:31] from the water bond fund for the

[5:32:32] contract and to make this ordinance

[5:32:34] contingent upon the Ohio Water

[5:32:35] Development Authority approving a loan

[5:32:37] for the project. Let me stop there. See

[5:32:38] if any questions or comments from my

[5:32:40] colleagues. Seeing none, I move for

[5:32:42] passage.

[5:32:43] » Cler, please call the role.

[5:32:44] » Pton Barrosa, Deodia, de AOA, Dorance

[5:32:47] Green, Remy Ross, Switz, President

[5:32:48] Harden.

[5:32:49] » Thank you. Next, I have 1533-2026

[5:32:53] to authorize the director of public

[5:32:54] utilities to enter into a construction

[5:32:56] contract with Danbert Incorporated for

[5:32:58] the blueprint 1 Palmetto/Westgate

[5:33:00] permeable pavers and water line

[5:33:02] improvements project to projects to

[5:33:04] authorize amendments to the 2025 capital

[5:33:06] improvement budget to authorize the

[5:33:08] appropriation expenditure of up to

[5:33:10] 11,678,51848

[5:33:14] from the water pollution control loan

[5:33:16] fund and the water freshwater market

[5:33:19] rate fund for the contract to make this

[5:33:21] ordinance contingent upon the Ohio Water

[5:33:23] Development Authority approving loans

[5:33:24] for the project to authorize the

[5:33:26] director of public utilities to apply

[5:33:28] for and accept a loan from the

[5:33:29] waterfresh water market rate for the

[5:33:31] Palmetto Westgate water line

[5:33:33] improvements project and to authorize an

[5:33:35] expenditure up to $2,000 from the

[5:33:37] sanitary bond fund to pay for prevailing

[5:33:39] wage services. This project consists of

[5:33:41] the installation of multiple street

[5:33:42] sections of permeable pavers as well as

[5:33:45] other storm water system improvements in

[5:33:47] the greater hilltop community. This work

[5:33:49] will improve storm water drainage and

[5:33:50] runoff. Let me stop there. See if any

[5:33:52] questions or comments from my

[5:33:53] colleagues. Seeing none, I move for

[5:33:55] passage.

[5:33:56] » Cler, please call the role.

[5:33:58] » Thanks. Timber Rosia de Akaw Doris Green

[5:34:00] Remy Ross Weiss President Harden

[5:34:02] » Pass.

[5:34:03] » Thank you. Next, I have 1559-2026

[5:34:06] to authorize the director of public

[5:34:07] utilities to renew an existing agreement

[5:34:09] with Aztec Systems LLC for software

[5:34:12] licenses associated with the city works

[5:34:14] AMS system and to authorize the

[5:34:16] expenditure of 1,19,234.74

[5:34:20] split between the electricity, water,

[5:34:22] sanitary sewer, and storm water

[5:34:24] operating funds. Excuse me. This

[5:34:26] software enables Columbus Water and

[5:34:28] Power to utilize GIS to better track,

[5:34:30] maintain, and manage assets across the

[5:34:32] entire department. Let's stop there. See

[5:34:34] if any questions or comments from my

[5:34:35] colleagues. Seeing none, I move for

[5:34:37] passage.

[5:34:38] » Clerk, please call the role.

[5:34:39] » Bank Rosa de Padilla de Aorns Green Reie

[5:34:43] Ross White President Harden.

[5:34:45] » Thank you. Next, I have 1573-2026

[5:34:48] to authorize and direct the city auditor

[5:34:50] to appropriate and transfer funds from

[5:34:52] this special purpose POS settlement fund

[5:34:55] to Columbus Water and Power Water

[5:34:57] Operating Fund. This ordinance

[5:34:59] authorizes funds received by the city in

[5:35:01] a product liability case to be utilized

[5:35:03] by the division of water for the purpose

[5:35:05] of improving water quality. Let me stop

[5:35:07] there. See any questions or comments

[5:35:08] from my colleagues? Seeing none, I move

[5:35:11] for passage.

[5:35:12] » Please call the role.

[5:35:13] » Thanks. Timber padia de a dors greeney

[5:35:16] ros vice president Harden

[5:35:18] » Pass.

[5:35:18] » Thank you. Next, I have 1645-2026

[5:35:21] to authorize the director of public

[5:35:23] utilities to modify the power purchase

[5:35:24] agreements with DG Columbus Jackson Pike

[5:35:26] LLC and DG Harvest 2023 LLC to provide

[5:35:31] funding for the purchase of energy

[5:35:32] environmental attributes generated at

[5:35:34] the uh photo volta volta PV solar

[5:35:39] engineering facilities at the Jackson

[5:35:41] Pike water reclamation plant in the

[5:35:43] Parsons Avenue water plant to authorize

[5:35:45] an expenditure of 2,800,000 from the

[5:35:47] electricity operating fund and to

[5:35:48] declare an emergency. This ordinance

[5:35:50] enables Columbus Water and Power to

[5:35:52] procure renewable energy from solar

[5:35:54] power installations at various

[5:35:55] department sites, helping the city

[5:35:57] achieve its goals set forth in the

[5:35:58] Columbus uh climate action plan.

[5:36:00] Emergency designation is requested due

[5:36:02] to previous delays with invoice renewal

[5:36:04] and projections for fiscal year 2026.

[5:36:07] Let me stop there. See if any questions

[5:36:08] or comments from my colleagues. Seeing

[5:36:10] none, I move for passage.

[5:36:12] » Please call the role. Bang Simber Roa de

[5:36:14] Padilla de Aar Dorren Green Remy Ross

[5:36:16] Swatch President Harden

[5:36:17] » Pass. [snorts]

[5:36:19] » Y'all knew what I was talking about. Uh,

[5:36:21] [clears throat] next I have 1666-2026

[5:36:24] to authorize the director of public

[5:36:26] utilities to enter into a construction

[5:36:27] contract with General um I'm sorry,

[5:36:30] complete general construction company

[5:36:31] Resource International Incorporated and

[5:36:34] Corda Nemoth Engineering Incorporated

[5:36:37] per the mayor's emergency uh dated May

[5:36:39] 26, 2026 for the emergency repair of a

[5:36:42] 78 in diameter brick sewer located at

[5:36:45] the intersections of Pearl Street and

[5:36:46] Brewers Avenue, I'm sorry, Brewers Alley

[5:36:49] to authorize the appropriation ation of

[5:36:51] the unappropriated balance of the sewer

[5:36:53] operating fund and to declare an

[5:36:55] emergency.

[5:36:57] Heavy rainfall during the month of May

[5:36:59] led to the collapse and failure of of a

[5:37:01] sewer located in the German village

[5:37:03] neighborhood. Immediate repair was

[5:37:04] necessary so that services could be

[5:37:06] restored as quickly as possible.

[5:37:08] Emergency designation is requested in

[5:37:10] order to prevent further disruption to

[5:37:11] the city's daily utility operations. Let

[5:37:14] me stop there. See if any questions or

[5:37:15] comments from my colleagues. Seeing

[5:37:17] none, I move for passage.

[5:37:19] » Please call the role. Banks Rosa de

[5:37:21] Padilla de Aar Dorance Green Remy Ross

[5:37:23] President Harden

[5:37:24] » Passed. Thank you. And last, I have

[5:37:27] 1681-2026

[5:37:29] to authorize the director of public

[5:37:30] utilities to enter into a guaranteed

[5:37:32] maximum reimbursement agreement with

[5:37:34] Premier Design Plus Building Group LLC

[5:37:37] for the inter modal sanitary subtrunk

[5:37:40] extension phase 2 project to amend the

[5:37:42] 2025 capital improvement budget to uh

[5:37:45] authorize a transfer of cash and

[5:37:47] appropriation within the sanitary bond

[5:37:48] fund to authorize an expenditure of up

[5:37:51] to $2,560,356

[5:37:54] from the sanitary ary bond fund and to

[5:37:56] declare an emergency. This project will

[5:37:58] provide sanitary sewer service to a

[5:38:00] rapidly developing section of the city

[5:38:02] by constructing a new sewer further into

[5:38:05] the Rickenbacher service area emergency

[5:38:07] designation is requested so that

[5:38:08] construction can begin as soon as

[5:38:10] possible and to avoid interfering with

[5:38:12] or delaying other construction projects

[5:38:14] in the area. Me stop there seek any

[5:38:16] questions or comments from my

[5:38:17] colleagues.

[5:38:19] Seeing none, I move for passage.

[5:38:22] » Please call the role. Thanks Timber

[5:38:23] Rosie

[5:38:26] Ross vice president Harden

[5:38:27] » Pass.

[5:38:28] » Thank you. That is all I have for my

[5:38:29] committee this evening.

[5:38:30] » Thank you Mr. Chair. See no further

[5:38:32] business coming for council a motion to

[5:38:33] adjourn.

[5:38:34] » Second clerk please call the role.

[5:38:36] » Thank

[5:38:37] a Dorren Green Remy Ross vice president

[5:38:40] Harden.

[5:38:40] » Meeting is adjourned.

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