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[0:13] Thank you.
[0:23] Mr. Voss. Mr. Moore. Yes. Mr. Carol.
[0:28] Vice Mayor Denglo.
[0:32] Thank you.
[0:34] So we'll get to pre-liminary matters here, approval of methods for the regular city council of August the 11th meeting.
[0:41] Motion to approve. Second. All in favor?
[0:44] Hi.
[0:45] Right.
[0:46] Agenda additions, deletions and adoptions.
[0:50] I just have one.
[0:53] The subject of the Homiston Board work.
[0:56] And I was wondering if the city manager would mind moving his portion of the
[1:02] bid into that discussion topics, so we just, all in one, that'd be great.
[1:07] All right, great.
[1:10] Thank you.
[1:11] Motion approved agenda change.
[1:14] Second, all in favor?
[1:17] Aye.
[1:17] OK.
[1:21] So, proclamations and recognitions by console, the green heart tribe.
[1:27] Okay, those who frequent the bear island of an ocean drive in the surrounding area, Cardinal,
[1:35] this notice that there's some nice new plantains, some lighting and some really nice improvements
[1:44] there.
[1:45] And just a sproclamation is the recognition of the organization that's put this together.
[1:51] And before I read the proclamation, I'd like to go ahead and play the video to give everyone
[1:56] idea what's going on there.
[2:06] And I'm with Catherine Faulkner.
[2:08] She is with I.L. landscape.
[2:11] If we didn't have her, we wouldn't have any of this.
[2:14] She has become our go-to person for everything beautiful on ocean dry.
[2:22] In addition to that,
[2:24] Catherine has designed, I think, every installation.
[2:30] And she works with Peter Benedict from my L.O.L. landscape.
[2:36] He's our son, Hero. I'm always saying that.
[2:38] But Peter came to us right in the beginning three years ago.
[2:42] And he wanted to participate in the Green Heart Tribe when nobody even knew who we were.
[2:48] We are so honored to be a head of this project.
[2:53] What is your favorite part of the installation?
[2:58] I know what my corner is.
[3:00] Okay.
[3:01] Okay, sure.
[3:01] Actually, we did the two sections of pots.
[3:04] That's sex and pausa.
[3:06] Yes.
[3:07] I looked at the sex and sign.
[3:09] And I thought that is so boring.
[3:12] It's clean.
[3:13] It's grass.
[3:14] It's what the city can do.
[3:16] But you see it out of the corner.
[3:17] You're right.
[3:18] So we got to get it by that.
[3:20] And then I looked across the street at the fire pole.
[3:23] And it was just old hedges.
[3:25] is weed, grass, mulch, and as of what we got to do to find out too, but a question for you,
[3:33] Captain.
[3:34] When you all are working, do you ever have people come up and say, who does this, or
[3:39] why are you doing all my goodness, say we weren't for three hours on Ocean Drive, where
[3:44] there's an install or dessert task, probably 45 minutes of that, yes, is meeting the residents,
[3:52] visitors, tourists, they want to know everything about people.
[3:57] People are always surprised and they, they're really proud of it.
[4:01] They become very proud of it.
[4:02] Like this is my city.
[4:03] So I really want to thank everybody.
[4:06] All of you.
[4:06] Hero Peach, I.E.L.A.L.L. Am scape,
[4:10] Catherine, Peter Veniget,
[4:12] all of the people that were working with you.
[4:16] I encourage everybody to go to our website,
[4:20] rempharktrive.com.
[4:22] And you will see a lot of what we're doing.
[4:24] If you want to donate, we love it.
[4:26] Thank you very much.
[4:28] If you want to give us some comments or ideas,
[4:31] we're always open to that.
[4:32] But I want to say thank you
[4:34] To the citizens of Farrow Beach, who have really rally and become a part of this,
[4:43] face from the bottom of our green park, there's more to come.
[4:49] Thank you, Jason.
[4:50] Sorry for the technical difficulties.
[4:53] It's a good to avoid it.
[4:55] I got the audio part.
[4:57] All right.
[4:58] Proclamation, whereas the Green Heart tribe is a nonprofit organization dedicated in enhancing
[5:03] the beauty and character of Viro Beach through community driven beautification initiatives
[5:06] and public private partnerships and whereas through the generosity of his donors and
[5:12] the dedication of volunteers, the Greenhardt tribe is successfully raised funds to support improvements
[5:17] along Ocean Drive corridor, including decorative flower planters, landscaping enhancements, lighting
[5:22] improvements and other beautification projects that contribute to a more vibrant and welcoming
[5:26] environment and whereas the Greenhardt tribe has worked collaborative, collaboratively with city
[5:32] staff, local businesses and community stakeholders to enhance public spaces, promote civic
[5:37] pride, and strengthen the unique character of Viro Beach and whereas the organization's effort
[5:42] to demonstrate a positive impact that dedicated volunteers community partnerships and filth on
[5:48] philanthropic support can have on a quality of life enjoyed by residents and visitors alike.
[5:55] Now, therefore, the City Council City of Viro Beach Florida does hereby recognize and come in the
[6:01] community, the green hard drive for their outstanding commitment to
[6:05] beautification, communities to our ship and enhancement of the ocean
[6:09] drive quarter and extend our sincere appreciation of it's to a
[6:14] leadership volunteers, donors and supporters for their lasting
[6:17] contributions to city of Viro Beach, signed by all city council
[6:21] including the city clerk. So thank you. So welcome to come up.
[6:35] I want to
[6:35] all of you. We didn't know what we were quite getting into when we started this. We had lunch with
[6:43] money and we're insisting on, we need money, we need to do flowers, we need to do this and that,
[6:50] and it took us just maybe one lunch to realize there was very little money. So Jordan and Dina and I
[7:00] decided let's have a little party and see if people were interested maybe we could raise some money
[7:06] and we did that and I think we invited a hundred people and somehow a hundred and ten showed up
[7:16] everybody donated and we realized well this really could be something
[7:21] so we went through getting a nonprofit, getting an attorney, getting a bookkeeper, learning all those
[7:28] things as we went along.
[7:30] And it's just been remarkable. And you know, we really do, we say, we thank the city all the time for their cooperation and allowing us to do this.
[7:44] And thank you so much for recognizing us. This came as a very big surprise and quite an honor.
[7:50] very well. Thank you for your contribution to the community. We're so happy to do it.
[7:56] Yeah, Mr. Mayor. I like to add three years ago, I get a call from Cindy and
[8:01] invitation to lunch and I'm not knowing what to expect and I get there and meet Dina and Jordan
[8:07] and we had a really good lunch and a good education about the city's budget and I was shocked.
[8:13] What is that? And I just want to commend them for their vision that they had and their
[8:19] just putting their heads to the grindstone and making this happen. It really looks great.
[8:24] Thank you.
[8:26] Thank you very much.
[8:32] You actually get a document.
[8:36] Yes.
[8:38] Thank you.
[8:40] Thank you.
[8:42] Thank you.
[8:43] Thank you.
[8:43] I come over here.
[8:45] This way, this way, this way, this way.
[8:47] Thank you.
[8:48] Thank
[8:52] you.
[8:54] Thank you so much.
[9:19] There's a fun part of the meeting, where you go from there, where you go from there.
[9:27] all right comes to the consent agenda they are I'd like to pull three a
[9:34] since it's the only one so I guess you can't take a motion to approve the
[9:39] consent agenda okay so let's get to it then
[9:45] I'm pulling, let's discuss it.
[9:49] 3A, I'm sure everybody looked at the back of material
[9:53] and saw that, as I saw on the Hanson summary sheet,
[10:00] that base bid A was the bid that we were looking for,
[10:05] I've got gas, and base bid A only had two bidters
[10:10] and one withdrew because they were not allowed
[10:13] to apply the membrane that was requested in the plans on specifications, so which left one
[10:23] bit or the roof authority at 7343946 is the only bitter.
[10:31] So my question is, and I can't really find out any other way about to ask it, is what
[10:38] is the difference between Vacepid A and Vacepid B and is it because this membrane is still proprietary
[10:46] there that no one else but the roofing authority here locally can put it on.
[10:55] Morning. Morning. Morning.
[10:57] Morning. Morning. Morning. So, Vacepid A is a cold membrane. It's more of a rubber material,
[11:04] much stronger superior product to what Vacepid B is. Vacepid B is a silicone epoxy.
[11:12] A lot easier for that to get damaged and then cause future leaks down the road than base bid A is. A is going to give you 10 to 20 years of what would be similar to like a new roof.
[11:27] There is an FTOT specification for this and you have to be certified to be able to apply that.
[11:33] Now, it's my knowledge. There's about three companies in the state that are certified to apply this material.
[11:40] The other two are Northern half of the state. This is the only one that was closer by,
[11:46] so it's probably why they're the only one that bid on that project. For a $900,000 project
[11:51] for somebody to travel all the way across the state for it doesn't make too much sense
[11:55] because then they have to put people in hotels and so forth.
[12:01] Well, I get it, it's a superior product, but I mean,
[12:08] we essentially eliminate any of the
[12:12] other bidders by going with this product.
[12:16] If you're assuming there's only three in a whole state, it would be very hard to get, like
[12:21] you said, I agree with you, you know, any other bidders on it.
[12:26] So, essentially, if we knew the roofy authority was the only ones that could apply this
[12:31] material. I mean, we're basically assigning the project to, in a way. I mean, this is the
[12:37] point that used to happen when I was on your side. So all three companies were notified
[12:42] that this bid was going out. It wasn't a selected process or anything along those lines.
[12:48] We went through the standard city bidding process. If we have a superior product available,
[12:55] it's best to use that superior product, especially when it falls within budget.
[12:59] So, the original thought was that base bid A probably would be higher than our budget would
[13:05] allow for, and that's why we had B and there as well.
[13:10] Now, the bidder that came in fit within our budget with 200,000 to spare, so there is room
[13:19] for contingency there.
[13:21] So, right.
[13:22] And then the other person that bid it, obviously, they couldn't get out of the budget.
[13:27] They couldn't get out of the budget.
[13:28] Yeah, they couldn't get certified through the country. Sorry, certified through the company to apply that and there's there's a lot of
[13:38] Specified equipment that's required for this application process. It's not something that every roof and company has to be able to utilize
[13:47] But the bid was
[13:51] Under projections or add projections or over so the the bid the engineers estimate came in at
[13:58] $998,000, our budget for it was $900,000, and then they came in at $701.
[14:06] So the reason for that is the material estimate cost for application of the material was between
[14:12] $4 to $12 a square foot, and the engineers estimate put that at, I believe, $9 a square
[14:20] foot, these guys came in at $4, so they came in at the lower end of that range, that's
[14:25] why that was cheaper.
[14:25] So they'll run the budget. Yes. Yes, with a superior product with a superior product. Yes.
[14:34] Well, that sounds like a win-win. I think so as well.
[14:38] Thank you.
[14:39] Thanks. Motion to approve. Second. All in favour?
[14:44] Hi. Okay. Thank you.
[14:48] Okay. Public hearing. Ordnuses.
[14:54] An ordinance of the City of Arab age Florida amending Article 2 of Chapter 78 of the Code of the City of Arab age.
[15:00] Getting to the administration of water, wastewater and reuse water utility services, establishing
[15:05] monthly water, wastewater and reuse water rates, establishing fees and charges for city utility
[15:11] customers. Establishing a wastewater readiness to serve charge, providing for the repeal,
[15:17] a prior rate resolutions, providing for the correction of scriptors' errors and providing
[15:21] for an effective date.
[15:29] Good morning. Good morning.
[15:30] Is that going to work?
[15:35] You know, you use it more than I do.
[15:45] Now I got to use my glasses to see which button he's.
[15:48] In front of you today, and I'm going to go through this very briefly because I think we've seen it two or three times, but I'm not sure who's in the audience or who's watching.
[15:56] So I figured I could go ahead and run through it, but this is the abbreviated utility rate study that graph tells
[16:04] gave to the utility commission and then to you all a few months back and in front of you today
[16:09] is the ordinance that's related to what we discussed in the meeting a couple months back.
[16:17] Quick agenda, we're going to go through background revenue requirements, revenue
[16:20] sufficiency, findings, and recommendations, and then Q&A. So in the background,
[16:27] And
[16:30] we have approximately 13,900 water casters, 10,700 waste water casters, and about 100
[16:39] reuse casters.
[16:41] Water system is two-treat and plants, two-ground storage tanks, two-and-a-miles.
[16:46] Waste water system is one-treat and plant, 120 lift stations.
[16:51] We're constructing a new waste water-treat and plant that's under construction.
[16:55] We're planning a bond issue in February of 2027, hence the reasons for this rates that
[17:02] Prior rates study for was performed in 2022, it raised rates anticipation of the wastewater
[17:08] treatment plan, but we had costs that went up also, we had COVID fall out from that period
[17:16] forward because the actual study probably used 2021 data and as a result we've had inflation
[17:24] and that's caused a lot of operating costs.
[17:26] Since then, the utility has experienced major operating construction costs increases,
[17:34] so the revenue
[17:35] requirement is prior to the study versus current project projections.
[17:39] If you look at the columns to the left, there's operating expenses is in dark blue and then
[17:47] in the lighter greenish blue color is bond costs or death service costs.
[17:54] So if you look at the current year, the right now we're operating at 2025, we're operating at very low because we haven't borrowed the money yet, but our operating numbers have already exceeded the previous operating projections that we had.
[18:12] if you follow out in future years and you hit year 2029 the operating cost is actually
[18:20] the total of both the operating projections that we did in 2022 plus the debt service.
[18:31] So revenue requirements, we have anticipated 30 new water and waste water customers. That's new
[18:37] construction per year. We have additional 300 septic to sewer waste water
[18:42] customers annually projected to connect through the step system. Operating
[18:48] expenses are forecasted with an exclamation. I think of 4.1% over the years
[18:55] based on the 2026 budget we have today. Capital improvements are 217 million over
[19:03] of five-year period, or year period,
[19:06] GMP projections account for about $164 million
[19:10] that is the water-reclamation facility.
[19:15] And the GMP funding actually has changed.
[19:19] We will have $100 million of the $125 million
[19:23] bond issue go towards the water-reclamation facility
[19:27] and our grants now are at 67.3 million dollars.
[19:35] Good, jumped.
[19:38] Again, operating expenses, the average annual increase is about 4.1% per year.
[19:44] You can see that 2026 is about operating about 25.6, and then at 2030, including debt service, all costs, is about 32 million.
[19:56] Capital Improvement Program. This year we'll be spending about 80 million, 2027. We'll be spending about 90 million. That's slowly tapers down into 2028.
[20:07] When the dark blue, that is the water recommendation facility drops off.
[20:13] And then that's left with the capital R and R and other projects that we're doing as far as step system.
[20:22] What's not shown in here is now PFAS that we've talked about last week in our meeting.
[20:32] So the major projects include the Waste of our Chute and Plant, maintenance building, administration building, water plant structures, equipment, well-field structures for PFAS, reclaimed water storage tank and major equipment projects.
[20:45] purchases.
[20:49] The Series 2027 revenue bond will. Proceeds will be about $125 million. It will have a 30 year time frame.
[20:58] It's estimated at 4.55 percent. I don't know exactly what that number will be until the bonds are sold.
[21:05] And it will have an average annual debt service of $8.6 million.
[21:15] Major drivers, changes of cost operating transfers that service compared to the prior study.
[21:21] If you look at this, you'll see that the additional operating costs per fiscal 2026 is $3 million
[21:29] more than what the estimate was from the 2022 study rising to $5 million by 2029.
[21:38] The transfers will be additional, however, actually that's no, because your policy that
[21:47] implemented the transfers its minus debt service so you won't see that higher numbers as
[21:53] you see in that chart. The additional debt service right now we're operating because we
[22:00] have a borrowed money at a $2.5 million surplus but by 2029 we'll be $3.5 million
[22:07] higher than what we anticipated in the 2022 study and that's a result of the debt
[22:15] issuance of $125 million for its $80 million dollars.
[22:21] This is the proposed rate change that's
[22:24] in the ordinance for a 4,000 gallon user current.
[22:30] Finally, the bills are at 83-54. You will have a wastewater increase of 15 percent next year, followed by 15 percent, then 10 and 5, and another slide. I'll show you what changes will occur in a couple of years from now.
[22:46] The water customer is 10, 7 and a half, 5 and 5, and the bill change will eventually be from 83, 54 now to 122 dollars by 2030.
[23:03] The combined system revenue efficiencies existing in proposed rates, the revenue under projected rates, as long as you have that red line and you're operating below that red line, you're in good shape.
[23:19] And then this is your ending cash balances and the minimum target is 180 days.
[23:26] We usually require that we'll have a better bond rating with a higher amount of cash reserves
[23:35] than if we were just operating at that 180 day number.
[23:41] All in debt service coverage, the target is 1.5 over the next five years.
[23:47] we will be above that number. Again, this goes to our reading.
[23:53] Here's a comparison right now.
[23:56] Viro is at 83.54.
[24:00] By next year, we'll be at 94.92.
[24:04] I can tell you Pompeii and Stuart
[24:08] Fort Pierce. I'm not sure about the county, but all of them are looking at raising their rates
[24:14] here in the next couple of years,
[24:19] finding it's recommended, and do we get that other slide in there,
[24:23] we did? Keep going. Oh, my numbers change, there we go, sorry. So this was what we just discussed last
[24:32] week, and I was going to try to get the rates change, but we realized that it was too big of a change
[24:39] for what was already advertised, and we had to give 30 days notice everybody, so if whoever's here
[24:46] today because they got their 30 days notice would be showing up. We would have to postpone it.
[24:51] So what we decided was to go ahead and let you all vote on this today, show you the difference
[24:57] of what will come in the future. We're still doing a impact the analysis. So that's going to require
[25:04] again, notification to the public and a rate change when that goes into effect. And we'll tie this
[25:11] change to that in the future.
[25:14] So under the original proposal that we just ran through,
[25:19] you went from 2027 having a bill, water, and sewer combined bill
[25:24] for 4,000 gallon user from 94.92 to 125.
[25:31] By using the additional $25 million in putting it on the water
[25:36] customers, that changes how the calculations are done.
[25:41] you're not going to have as much waste water increases in the future. So the first two years are
[25:47] followed by very small increases. However, it does raise the water customers in the future years.
[25:54] However, there's more water sales than there is sewer sales. So it delutes that effect
[26:00] so that actually when we come back in the future and change the rates, the customer will see at the end of
[26:08] in 2030, they will go from down from 122, 45 to 116, 87. So they'll have a $5 and a half dollar savings.
[26:21] Can I stop you? I think you're confusing some people because I'm confused, and I know what you're talking about.
[26:28] It's not okay. They're not going to increase.
[26:31] is drastic. Yes. Because the grant funds are being included in this analysis, the new grant
[26:38] funds. Correct. You didn't lead off with that. So why are these things happening?
[26:44] Okay. So we received another $25 million in grant funds between when you approved this program
[26:53] that you see today and today. The $25 million came from the sea level rise or resiliency funding
[27:04] mechanism through the state of Florida. So it's a state project. It will fund again towards
[27:12] the water reclamation facility because it flooded in 2004. We were able to show the effects that
[27:18] future hurricanes would have on sea level rise and with the chance of actually causing a major
[27:25] contamination to the lagoon. We received another $25 million grant. We talked about that $25 million
[27:33] grant instead of not borrowing $125 million. We talked about taking that $25 million and borrowing
[27:41] it towards the water system so that we can go ahead and move forward with implementing the
[27:48] corrections we need and the changes we need to address the federal mandated PFAS issue,
[27:55] which is required by 2029 with an extension to 2031. We plan on having all those projects and
[28:07] everything we need to implement that done by some time in 2030.
[28:12] So to be able to fund and get started immediately, we will, the plan is to borrow the funds
[28:20] with this borrowing, $125 million that gives us $25 million to get started with.
[28:27] In addition, we still have $10 million in contingency with the Water Reclamation facility.
[28:33] I don't anticipate spending $10 million.
[28:37] We've been very, very frugal and very, very good with where we've art today with going from
[28:43] 11 points, something down to 10.
[28:48] And I see a couple million dollars more, but not a whole lot.
[28:51] So we'll take all those excess funds, put it towards the water system also.
[28:57] So these numbers will change again.
[28:59] And the question is when do we come back to city council to make the corrections I would say
[29:06] no later than two years, but no earlier than one year, no earlier than this time next
[29:14] year.
[29:16] So I would say the first two years of rates that you see will be what we would look at going
[29:22] into effect and then changing it before the October of 2028 timeframe. You got to realize
[29:35] that we can't change rates on September 30th and expect them to go into effect on October 1st.
[29:42] There's all kinds of programming that has to be done in the billing system. This is pushing it.
[29:47] an August change is really putting stress on our billing department to get all the changes in place to
[29:54] get it for October 1st. So, sometime in May or June.
[30:00] We'll be a good time frame to come back to council and adjust and move the funds. And we'll
[30:06] know then where we are with our contingency. So that may even affect this more to where more
[30:12] of that gets moved to the water system versus the wastewater system. And the trend is to decrease
[30:19] the bill. The trend is to keep it as stable as can be or to lower to lower the impact to the
[30:26] typical residential 4,000 gallon, is there?
[30:30] Thank you.
[30:31] Did that help?
[30:32] Yes, thank you.
[30:34] I think it helped everybody, right?
[30:35] It probably did.
[30:38] So anyway, there we are.
[30:41] Is there any other questions?
[30:43] You can go back and slide 10.
[30:45] Are you finished?
[30:45] Are you finished?
[30:46] With the presentation.
[30:48] So I have a question.
[30:49] A little bit of share.
[30:53] Okay.
[30:54] Yeah, right there.
[30:55] So total 216 910 360 project costs. That's everything. It doesn't include any
[31:02] these your bonds to grants everything. So everything that we do with general
[31:08] maintenance and
[31:09] maintaining everything over the next
[31:12] Yeah, so the and the other sources what is behind that?
[31:18] That one kind of
[31:20] There's really not much of an impact. It's captured here
[31:24] But if I budget buying $2 million worth of steps
[31:29] in equipment per year, I have a revenue source that comes in
[31:32] because I'm selling it to the customer and I get $2 million
[31:38] of revenue coming in.
[31:40] But it just captures the total cost of capital.
[31:44] Because it's under our capital fund,
[31:45] that that's where it's showing it.
[31:48] Thank you.
[31:49] And then also we had grant, you know, we didn't apply grants for maybe this year that we get from the state.
[32:00] In some of those projections of what we had for step maines and stuff. So 2028's going to be a really good time because we'll be finishing up all the installation of all that will have better numbers.
[32:10] We can really get fine-tuned with taking into consideration.
[32:15] You're not going to be transferring money on debt service and how much buying power that has for debt.
[32:22] And then also looking at by 2030 to our existing loans that we have on the deep injection well,
[32:32] and some of the other stuff improvements we put in in 2012 will be coming off the book.
[32:36] So we can maybe bridge a couple of years
[32:40] so that we're not raising rates to cover some of this cost.
[32:43] So it 2020 is going to be a really good time
[32:45] to run through this again and really get some good numbers
[32:49] moving forward of what rates are going to look like.
[32:55] Can you go back to slide seven, please?
[32:57] Seven now.
[33:02] So this says we are assuming an additional 300
[33:07] it's septic to sewer wastewater customers annually, but aren't we down to like 700 houses
[33:13] that still need to connect?
[33:15] We are down to a 600 and something that have to connect, but we're also going outside the
[33:22] city limits into the county and then about 150 in the shores.
[33:27] So that's another 105.
[33:29] So that's really only two and a half years of 300 customers.
[33:32] It's in this four-year projection, really, is where it is, after that it just becomes stable.
[33:39] Don't forget this also has the readiness to serve charge in it where those customers that are on the step that haven't connected.
[33:47] Once we send them letters and notification, they'll have 75 days, and then they'll have to start paying a base bill.
[33:56] So that they're paying for debt service, they're paying for the cost of maintaining and the operations of the new treatment plant that they have yet to connect to.
[34:05] All right, that's all I wanted to do.
[34:07] Thank you.
[34:08] Anyone else?
[34:09] Rob, can you go back to the slide where you had the do chart with the cities and municipalities?
[34:24] Yeah, so chart like this can be concerning looking at it with having no additional information prior.
[34:31] But, you know, seeing Vera Beach being proposed is number three in the fiscal year 27, but yeah, this chart, you would say it's fair to say that, you know, there's going to over time some leapfrog happening. This isn't permanent.
[34:45] You are just changing because the other areas such as Palm Bay, Melbourne, Stuart, they're going to eventually also follow and increasing their rates.
[34:55] Yes,
[34:58] typically this happens when you build new facilities because they're large capital investments and you jump up to the top and then as everybody starts catching up to you and building new facilities then they start catching up or passing you.
[35:12] And so it's always a leapfrog with communities over time.
[35:18] Pompeii is about to embark on new water facility also switching to RO like we have
[35:24] same problem that we have also they're they just finished up or there's still not complete
[35:30] with a wastewater expansion and they're going right into another expansion doubling
[35:34] the capacity of their wastewater system.
[35:38] Does the county have enough capacity to connect everyone that's not connected?
[35:48] No.
[35:58] No.
[35:58] No.
[35:59] No.
[35:59] No.
[35:59] the capacity for the septic sewer and no more growth, or continue growth, and then build new
[36:04] capacity for both the growth and septic sewer. The same with the water system. The water system
[36:12] is needing additional for future capacity, you know, for growth. Port St. Lucy is right now in
[36:22] the middle of building, not forcing Lucy St. Lucy County is in the middle of building two water,
[36:28] two million gallon a day water treatment plants and a wastewater two million
[36:32] young day wastewater treatment plant. So those rates will get affected.
[36:36] Portsaint Lucy, I know they had limestone softening. They're probably running into
[36:41] the same problem. We are with PFAS, so they're going to have an impact. Stuart,
[36:46] they did a quick fix for their PFAS problems because it really affected them.
[36:51] Their long-term goal is to abandon everything, switch to all RO like we are.
[36:56] They're going to have the same effect. Melbourne, not too sure, but they still pull water off of
[37:02] Lake Washington. I can tell you that seeing with stormwater levels of p-fosses at 12 parts
[37:08] per trillion, they may be running into problems with that type of treatment and have to put something in
[37:14] effect. So right now, there's everybody is jogging for trying to figure out how to correct
[37:21] you know, the federal mandates of what we've seen come down and meet those targeted deadlines.
[37:27] Hence the reason...
[37:30] And while it's important to get moving before deadlines and extended deadlines so that we're not bumping up against
[37:39] not enough contractors or inflated costs and construction to get those types of things done.
[37:47] So, Robert, current capacity is 12 million gallons, right? 12 MGD for your to new facility.
[37:56] It'll be right between the 11 and 12 million by the time I figure out the fine tune in.
[38:00] the county has a comparable amount of it's a three. They have a
[38:03] comparable amount with their two facilities, but their their
[38:06] facilities don't meet the current requirements.
[38:10] Now they have our own so their water system is is adequate. There's no
[38:14] problem with PFAS with it. I'm just saying growth. Yeah, it would be a
[38:18] driving factor with them to increase their their wealth yields and
[38:24] and water product. But they're from a waste treatment plant. Oh, from the
[38:28] treatment plant, they have two facilities that meet A-W-T standards at their current operating
[38:35] levels, and they have one that doesn't. It all depends on, and that deadline is 2034,
[38:44] so it's still further out,
[38:49] but it depends on if they're putting it out as public access reclaimed
[38:52] water not. So the one that's not is going to golf courses which is public access
[38:57] reclaim water. It depends on if they were to jockey it or jockey some stuff
[39:02] around and figure things out but they're going to have to do something. And they're
[39:07] going to have to do something for septic acider and grit. It's quite a few septic
[39:13] tanks.
[39:16] It's just to say everybody's got to figure out their plan, get things moving,
[39:21] And then you'll see the numbers all change over time.
[39:26] Well, correctly if I'm wrong, but when we did, when we did the more recent study in 2022,
[39:33] I mean, we were basically in third or fourth position at that point with the rates that this council approved at that time.
[39:41] Probably.
[39:42] I'm not mistaken.
[39:44] So anticipate to be back there someday.
[39:46] You see what I'm saying?
[39:47] Yeah.
[39:48] That's how it works out.
[39:51] I got it.
[39:51] Yeah. Yeah. When I worked for Palm Bay years ago, our rates were higher and then I left and came here and within a year,
[40:00] Melbourne's were higher than Palm Bay. So it just continues to change as you do construction projects.
[40:06] All right.
[40:09] Any further questions? No, some good. Thanks. Okay. I will attend 12.
[40:15] We'll open this up for a public comment. Please identify yourself and where whether you're a city resident or an
[40:22] any resident
[40:39] anybody I talked you and I'm a leathery old bat so excuse me
[40:44] circun you identify yourself oh I'm terribly sorry poor like I say old
[40:47] bat so Marshall I'm living in city over by the high school and as you can
[40:55] tell eco freak and cheap skate so my concern is anybody I've talked to around
[41:01] town we're concerned about whether the base rate is rising or the usage rate and
[41:06] and I would love it if the base rate could stay the same
[41:10] because eco-freex says,
[41:13] hey, you leave the base rate the same
[41:14] and raise the usage rate only,
[41:18] that could encourage a little bit of cutting back on waste.
[41:22] If you keep raising the base rate,
[41:24] I get a shrug every now and again from people with,
[41:27] well, you're paying for it.
[41:28] Why worry about every little drop?
[41:32] Not helpful.
[41:34] So your $83 is that base rate plus $4,000 for those of us who only use $4,000 a year, what's the base rate?
[41:46] So interesting.
[41:48] And thank you.
[41:49] Thank you.
[41:50] So the increases were across the board to both the base rate and to the uses charge.
[41:55] The reason you, when you determine your base rate versus your usage charges, your base
[42:03] rates usually handle debt service plus the cost of operating a plant.
[42:11] No matter what, you still have to pay for the electric, you have to pay for the people
[42:14] to be there.
[42:15] The usage deals with chemical costs, additional electrical costs, operating costs, the main
[42:23] You don't put everything in the base rate because it would be really, really, really high and the uses charge would be really, really low.
[42:31] So you can kind of find a blend because if you look at a utility, there's a lot of required cost to be there to maintain it no matter what all of your debt for capital replacement of pipes, all of that would have to be in it you would actually have a very, very high base rate.
[42:49] We have a good blend of base rate to usage.
[42:53] We do have a lifeline for water customers for usage.
[42:58] So we keep in our rates are tiered.
[43:00] They're not tiered for sewer, but they're tiered for water.
[43:04] And if you look at it, it's roughly the first 3,000 gallons of water,
[43:08] or only a dollar per thousand, or a dollar 10 per thousand gallons.
[43:12] Then it jumps to like four and a half dollars for the next tier on up.
[43:17] So it gives an incentive for people to use less water, which then uses less sewer because
[43:25] sewer is just a flat per usage charge, but if you're using less water, then you're not
[43:30] paying as much for sewer either.
[43:34] Thank you.
[43:44] Good morning, Council.
[43:46] My name is Bob Awarder, I'm a resident of any river shores and a water and sewer customer
[43:51] of the city in Biro Beach.
[43:54] So what you have in front of you that I'm handing out, and also for those in the audience
[43:59] for watching it later, is a page directly out of the City of Viro Beach proposed budget
[44:06] book.
[44:07] It's called the fiscal 2627 administrative course allocation.
[44:11] So what it does, it takes each department and allocate cost not only to the general fund
[44:18] that the Viro Beach taxpayers pay, but also to the various enterprise funds, including
[44:23] the water and sewer fund. Now, under Florida rules, under GASB rules, government accounting
[44:29] standard boards, when it comes to cost allocation policies, this is directly from one of
[44:35] their slides, Florida agencies must maintain documented, equitable cost allocation plans. Under
[44:41] GASB principles, these plans cannot arbitrarily transfer general overhead costs to restrict the funds
[44:47] like utility or grant funds without clear documentation
[44:50] of benefits received.
[44:53] So if you look at your own analysis here,
[44:56] I went down each department.
[44:59] So I'm just going to read.
[45:00] Twenty-five percent of the course are being paid by the Woodern Sewer Customs. City Clerk, 24 percent. City manager, 25 percent. This building, City Hall. I don't think there's any Woodern Sewer facility inside City Hall.
[45:15] I don't know toilets. That 25 percent. We're getting to see it become a pattern here. City Attorney, 30 percent, and then enters the fans of the department so far.
[45:24] You know, my concern is you have massive increases in these rates and then I feel like you're
[45:31] piling on the water and sewer tax payer water and sewer rate payers, many of which live
[45:36] outside the city and cannot vote you out of office as the city council which is the rate
[45:43] making for.
[45:44] I think it's just unfair, I've asked for these cost allocations, plans, one at a time when utility
[45:51] commission never got anything.
[45:53] So I just want to point that out.
[45:55] One last thing before I get done here.
[45:59] This particular chart up here shows that the existing rate
[46:04] goes from 83, 54, to 94, 92.
[46:08] And vice mayor, Dingle had brought up, well,
[46:11] our other place is going to leapfrog and so forth.
[46:14] Just the one thing I want to point out,
[46:16] that's for next year, the 94, 92.
[46:19] Then your rate's going to go up to $107.30,
[46:21] sense the following year, 2029, 1668, and at least on the original table they gave out the
[46:29] water and sewer combined bill is going to go up 12245. So you take that 90492 rate,
[46:39] when you move it up to 12245, it's going to go up another 29%. So we may be leap frog and
[46:45] but we might be leap frog in a wrong way. So I just want to bring that to your attention. Thank you.
[46:49] Thank you. Thank you.
[46:50] Thank you.
[46:59] Probably the oldest person in here. My name is Adeline Clemens.
[47:04] I live on Tides Road, which is out on the Bay Area Island. I just had sewer installed
[47:11] because I was told that that was what we needed to do. They destroyed my septic tank,
[47:17] which was perfectly fine. There was nothing wrong with it. I live alone. How much mess
[47:23] can I make the end of the day, but now my sewer bill is almost 2.5 times the price of my
[47:32] water bill, which is getting outrageous and they're asking for an increase, as I got
[47:39] the little coup-piece paper. It also states here that there is going to be a readiness
[47:46] to serve charge. I don't know what that is. I wish somebody would explain it to us so that
[47:52] And you know what, and the heck, we're paying it for.
[47:55] This is, it's hard on widows, widowers, old people who've been living in, I've been
[48:02] living in my house since 1979.
[48:06] And all of a sudden everything is going out of the roof.
[48:12] $100, well, almost $100 a month for 4,000 gallons of water.
[48:18] I want to tell you, I take the quickest showers you've ever seen, trying not to use that much water.
[48:26] But it's not fair. It's not fair to the people who have been here forever and ever.
[48:34] I used to work for the water and sewer department. I worked there for three years.
[48:40] My husband also worked there. He had the charming job of checking out all the lift stations in this town.
[48:47] And he worked there longer than I did, but the bottom line was, there was nothing like this.
[48:57] This readiness to serve charge.
[48:59] What is that?
[49:00] Does that mean if somebody goes out at night because they still are back, so that we have
[49:05] to pay monthly for this on the off-chain set, it goes back and we have a problem?
[49:11] I don't know what it is.
[49:12] You're already being served. You're already had the service. Rob will explain it, but you're already hooked up. You don't have to worry about that charge.
[49:20] Well, it just says here, the implementation of a readiness to serve charge.
[49:27] Rob, right behind you, he'll explain it.
[49:28] Well, I hope not, because my bill is more than I want to spend anyway.
[49:34] And then, of course, in summertime, hey, there you are.
[49:38] And who are you?
[49:41] I thought that's maybe who you were, but I have told you and I never got a call back, but that's okay.
[49:47] He can explain the ready to serve.
[49:49] So the readiness to serve charge.
[49:52] You've just hooked up, correct?
[49:55] You said, no, no, you said you just hooked up to sewer.
[49:57] You're playing.
[49:58] Yes.
[49:58] You won't have to worry about the readiness to serve charge.
[50:00] The readiness to serve charges for those that haven't hooked up.
[50:04] That has the ability to hook up for the last 10 years.
[50:07] They didn't hook up, now we're building a new facility, and we're going to have debt service and other costs, and it's not fair to you as a sewer customer to pay for your neighbor that hasn't connected.
[50:20] Well, I'm already paying because I have a nine year note that I have to pay every year for the sewer that you put in.
[50:27] It wasn't free and my front yard now has no grass because I have two big green things and three plastic tanks because I watched them put it in.
[50:41] There are three plastic tanks underground with two big green covers on them and they destroyed my front yard. I'm getting wild grass growing in there because I can't buy more grass.
[50:55] But, and I know my neighbor had to spend $600 to put a little bit of grass where you dug up in there yard also.
[51:04] So, where do you live? What's your house?
[51:06] I'm tied to a corner of tides and trade winds.
[51:09] Okay.
[51:10] And I've been there forever.
[51:14] So anyway, well, if that's not going to be charged, that's better.
[51:19] but $100 a month is what you're looking at. That's not very good because they're on top
[51:28] and that you'll have electricity. And being by myself, that's a lot of money.
[51:35] Yeah. The electricity, you mean to run the pump? That's very good. But the $100 a month is
[51:44] What, what are wastewater charges are going to?
[51:47] I know. And when that's another thing, when they put in the tanks, I now have this big white box on the side of my house.
[51:57] And it has a little green light. And that runs off my electricity because they put it in my meat a box.
[52:05] So, okay, these are all the things that I'm complaining about.
[52:10] If you want to write your phone number on that, you can, you and Rob can have a conversation
[52:16] after.
[52:17] You're going to really the details for you.
[52:20] You'll be happy to go into the details for you as soon as possible.
[52:25] Well, now he's right here.
[52:30] mayor, thank you for coming in, thank you for coming in today. Thank you for coming in today, coeurcheck, you being here. Okay,
[52:37] Do you have anybody else,
[52:41] okay seeing no one approach in normal.
[52:43] I'm sorry, I apologize, OK.
[52:48] Myno, he almost missed it. Sorry,
[52:52] People Fragen ass детicio�, I still need to know. I need you to identify myself and whether you're a city or county resident.
[53:01] Um, I'm a county resident, Judy Fox. I'm at 30 10 10th Parkway in the Buckinghamic area over there. Okay, so will you send out further paperwork explaining the breakdown of what we have to pay because we don't fall into the grant. We make a little too much. Okay, my only concern is if I didn't have I'm guessing.
[53:30] $10,000 for this stuff, do you put it in the tax bill or the monthly fee for the water
[53:38] and sewer somehow and is it interest free or do we have to pay?
[53:42] I don't know.
[53:44] Okay.
[53:44] It's a rub.
[53:45] Here we go.
[53:46] We go ahead.
[53:48] Once we have the lines in Buckinghamic finished, we're planning on having a meeting here.
[53:54] For all the residents, explain all the costs.
[53:57] OK. Have, you know, other people here as far as you've you've checked on on some of the grants and others up, but yeah, but we'll we'll have a meeting here and have everybody that wants to have questions at a separate meeting just for that or no doubt for whatever we will send you a note out.
[54:13] OK, that was probably a letter in the mail directly to you in Rob that's a October right, so sometime in late October early November is OK.
[54:24] OK, I'll afford to it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
[54:26] I mean, thank you so much. Okay. Thank you.
[54:32] Okay. Any other public comment from the
[54:39] diocesal? Okay. Need a motion. I'll make a motion to approve the revised rates
[54:46] and accordance with the documents provided to City Council. Second. Okay. Roll call please.
[54:56] Mr. Voss. Yes. Mrs. Moore. Yes. Mr. Carol. Yes. Vice Mayor Dingo. Yes.
[55:01] Mayor Katunou. Yes. Passes five to zero.
[55:09] I'd like to thank everybody for
[55:11] who came out and made comment. Appreciate your input.
[55:19] Okay. Please.
[55:21] And ordinance of the City of Verbiage Florida,
[55:23] amending the comprehensive plan future land use map by changing the future land use
[55:28] designation from RM residential medium to see commercial located at 2300 fifth avenue
[55:35] containing seven acres more or less providing for an effective date.
[55:43] Good morning. Jason Jopri is a planning director. This is an application. It's a request by
[55:52] 2300 fifth Avenue LLC. It's a future land use map amendment. It's initiated by application
[55:59] by a property owner. The existing future land use map designation for this property is residential
[56:05] RM, residential medium, and the proposed future land use will be C commercial.
[56:12] The location is at 2350 Avenue, it's about seven acres.
[56:17] There is a concurrent application, which is the next hearing, which is a comprehensive
[56:20] plan text amendment, which is in relation to what is being proposed for this site.
[56:27] This is a legislative public hearing for a comprehensive plan.
[56:32] The process for the review process, there was a neighborhood workshop that was held on September 30, 2024 as required by our land development regulations.
[56:46] The application then went through a significant staff review because of it being a future land use map amendment.
[56:53] and then in, so I can write that down but in, let's see, the planning is only board conducted
[57:03] a public training on July 16th, in which they recommended this board,
[57:16] excuse me, hey Rob,
[57:19] could you go into the lobby please, thank you.
[57:24] And then the process requires this, this is a small scale, what's called a small scale
[57:29] future land use map amendment on their state statutes.
[57:31] So it just requires this one public hearing before city council for your adoption.
[57:38] And the state reviews is 30 days for them to filing objections to it.
[57:46] So from there, so in your packet is the location, this site is just north of the
[57:54] Miracle Mile Commercial District, is what is referred to as the doctor's clinic, many of
[58:00] the long time locals know it as before all the medical development kind of moved up to 37th
[58:09] street. Surrounding this site is on the north and you have in your packet that is the future
[58:20] land use map and the site currently is residential medium, the property to the north, which is
[58:26] currently in office building as the Kimley Horn offices. I think the Park 20 project that is
[58:33] residential, does a residential medium, and it has an office use to the east of the site is a multi-family residential.
[58:46] And that is also designated residential medium to the west and across fifth Avenue is a daycare, and that's designated residential.
[58:56] So, essentially, you have residential, medium land use that create that transition to the
[59:01] more single family, the rural park neighborhood to the north.
[59:05] And then you have any revolve, our provides is kind of the boundary separating this site
[59:11] from the Bureau Isles, which is also residential low.
[59:15] Wouldn't it, I have a question.
[59:17] Wouldn't it have made more sense to just do the whole big rectangle up to 24th Street
[59:21] and then all the way over to?
[59:23] Yes, and that was some initial inquiries. I would agree you're kind of palidating. I've had inquiries from the office complex to the north
[59:35] And I did suggest this inquiries between both properties have been going on. I think
[59:40] Best my memory since 2020 probably started with the effort
[59:44] COVID or after the pandemic when the office market
[59:48] start, you know, we've seen some shifts, and we've talked about it in the analysis, you know,
[59:53] some shifts in the office market, and this area could be better developed consistent with...
[1:00:00] Out in the 2005 vision plan for miracle mile. But and through those conversations, I did as staff recommend the two property owners do a joint application, but only this property moved forward on this application.
[1:00:13] But we could discuss that further in your deliberations, but if that's council's interest, they would.
[1:00:20] The other property, I think it makes sense as a planning director, but they would need to make application and have
[1:00:27] their analysis
[1:00:28] Done. The big key missing here is this analysis all based, especially the traffic analysis is just based on this property
[1:00:34] So we can't just add it in
[1:00:37] We wouldn't have sufficient data now
[1:00:39] Very traffic now. Well, yes
[1:00:41] Right, so you would have to go back in front of P&Z
[1:00:44] We would have to start the whole process over again, and you see this application took a long time to get here
[1:00:49] Yeah. But I appreciate you're having the same intuition that I think I had in talking to the property owners back and this is a development 2020, but we would have to have the sufficient data analysis to back that up.
[1:01:04] All right. But I appreciate. It sounds like there's willingness and I will convey that to the property owner to the north.
[1:01:10] Yeah. I mean, we could always go back and do it. It could always be a separate application. Yeah.
[1:01:17] So anyway, I'm going to just finish up in terms of the needs, addresses a need and some of the review analysis requirements under our land development regulations.
[1:01:29] The first is to do it does this application address a need and consistent with the public interest.
[1:01:34] This is amendment is to expand the miracle mile commercial district to the north.
[1:01:38] It's an allow makes use of residential commercial uses as identified, starting with the 2005 vision plan.
[1:01:45] and they've, the applicant has provided backup and support to this effect, the ideas to get some
[1:01:51] pedestrian oriented development as described in the vision plan in this area and this application
[1:01:57] is seen as dressing a need and is in the public interest because that aligns with the recent
[1:02:03] development trends, what we're seeing the shifts from the office market and the idea of having
[1:02:08] or mixed use residential development in kind of our commercial core, thereby reducing sprawl.
[1:02:17] So, as we get more development in the real beach area, terms of consistency with the
[1:02:23] carpenter plan, the change to sea commercial spounds to be overall consistent with the
[1:02:30] land development policies and policy 1.10. It's more suitable for small-to-medium scale
[1:02:37] urban development and intensities, located near existing urban uses and does provide for
[1:02:44] the transition from the commercial uses from the more intense commercial areas to or the
[1:02:50] transition is provided from this more intense commercial area to the more less intense single
[1:02:55] family residential areas. There are issues with transportation element policy 1.1, I'll go
[1:03:02] more specific in that terms of the impact. It has to deal with the level of service on
[1:03:06] River Boulevard, this is why staff recommended some policy changes there in the next application.
[1:03:13] So staff, in terms of this application being consistent with the company's plans, staff recommended additional
[1:03:18] land use policies to provide the consistency.
[1:03:22] So essentially, this application is subject to those being implemented.
[1:03:28] In terms more specifically on the impact of public facilities, and you're a boulevard under our
[1:03:34] Compients of plan is policy is to maintain a level of service of E plus 20 percent.
[1:03:41] There is traffic port attaches to this application,
[1:03:46] identified that they can maintain that level of service.
[1:03:50] So long as there's pedestrian or any development.
[1:03:52] So thereby, you got to make sure this is why those policies are being recommended to
[1:03:58] ensure that any of the development occurs in the area is pedestrian or any
[1:04:01] development or you're going to have a higher traffic generation. So they're kind of,
[1:04:05] their traffic report is dependent on the development being pedestrian oriented.
[1:04:09] Do we know what the applicant's plan for the property?
[1:04:11] Not specifically, that is why we don't have a rezoning application. You see today, the really
[1:04:16] original three applications, a future land use map amendment, a text, the text amendment,
[1:04:23] which is the next one and there was a zoning staff recommended not to approve the rezoning
[1:04:29] amendment to we get more specifics, and that it's consistent with the policies of recommending
[1:04:33] in the second application.
[1:04:38] So, and there are some traffic impacts identified to the intersection of innumerable bar to
[1:04:42] 17th Street.
[1:04:43] Those same traffic impacts are the same thing we're dealing with with three corners.
[1:04:47] So, there's other projects related in terms of what we're doing with the in-mafic, one
[1:04:52] of the other components of plan, the next, the one that's administratively being proposed
[1:04:57] the fourth here, and we're going to do for competence of plan.
[1:05:03] The terms of compatibility with surrounding areas,
[1:05:06] staff finds it was a adjacent commercial land use
[1:05:09] as nations, and then the transitional uses
[1:05:12] or areas are provided, so that you don't have the impact
[1:05:16] to the single family residential neighborhood,
[1:05:18] so it is compatible with the surrounding areas.
[1:05:20] So staff's finding is the future land use map
[1:05:22] and it's found to be consistent with the Stanford Review,
[1:05:24] would allow mixed use residential commercial uses,
[1:05:29] so long as there's this corresponding tax amendment
[1:05:31] to provide additional policies.
[1:05:34] There were concerns about the roadway level of service
[1:05:37] at Inreverble of Art and Intersections
[1:05:40] to be addressed with the adoption of those additional policies.
[1:05:44] But this proposal is compatible with surrounding area
[1:05:49] and existing uses, existing land use and future land use
[1:05:53] So, SAS recommendation was the approval of this comprehensive plan amendment with those conditions of additional amendments to the policies that's part of the next application.
[1:06:08] And the planning is only board essentially four to zero.
[1:06:12] Concert with the staff's recommendation.
[1:06:17] Okay.
[1:06:18] Questions from the dice?
[1:06:20] Just on the D.J. and properties, it's the right leverage off of what's already been put forward
[1:06:26] with this property, right?
[1:06:27] It's going to be in their best interest if they in fact were interested.
[1:06:31] It should be a little bit easier at this point if they wait.
[1:06:34] Over the next one.
[1:06:35] For the next one.
[1:06:36] Yeah.
[1:06:36] You're talking about them.
[1:06:37] I'm talking about them.
[1:06:38] Well, right.
[1:06:39] Because they're going to run into the same traffic issues that this application did,
[1:06:43] but this application already dealt with the case.
[1:06:46] work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's to be in there. They did all the heavy lifting. Right. So now's a time to strike someone has to. Right. So with that, the
[1:06:55] public in. Thank you for all the. Thank those efforts.
[1:07:05] I have the remote. Okay.
[1:07:10] Thank you.
[1:07:14] Good morning, while the
[1:07:15] presentation is brought up in Rebecca girl hall with MBV engineering and I had Keith Kite here of
[1:07:24] properties and dip.
[1:07:30] Annual Kennedy, as well as Jacob Nunes, with Kimli Horn, who did all the traffic analysis for us.
[1:07:38] So Jason did a great job outlining this. We're looking to transition from a residential
[1:07:43] medium density to the commercial future land use, which would allow for a mixture of residential
[1:07:50] institutional and non-residential uses. And it's really designated for arterial
[1:07:55] select your streets near existing urban centers.
[1:08:01] So, went too fast.
[1:08:03] Why the change is needed as you just hear Mr. Jeffries
[1:08:07] outlined the history of the property has changed
[1:08:10] and the circumstances have changed a lot.
[1:08:13] This used to serve as really like a health care hub
[1:08:16] offering doctors clinics services to the surrounding neighborhoods.
[1:08:20] And that goes back to like the 1960s.
[1:08:23] And then over time, medical practices
[1:08:27] have migrated closer to the hospital corridor
[1:08:30] and opened up their own facilities.
[1:08:33] So today, it's used as general office in a preschool,
[1:08:37] and there is a rising vacancy and underutilization
[1:08:40] of that property.
[1:08:42] And that trend just really mimics national trends,
[1:08:46] where office accuracy remains below pre-pandemic levels,
[1:08:51] it might never come back.
[1:08:52] sometimes this is bad is 50%. And again, we think this trend is likely to reverse as we see rising
[1:09:01] office vacancies really across the city. So that kind of brings us to the mixed use vision for
[1:09:07] the site and keep in mind this is a vision. This is really the first step in the process.
[1:09:13] Once we get past this, we'll start putting pen to paper and really start working on the site plan
[1:09:19] and the different aspects of that.
[1:09:22] So again, looking at commercial restaurant,
[1:09:23] residential and professional office space,
[1:09:26] there could be a possible hotel.
[1:09:28] And I know there's been some comments about that.
[1:09:30] So I'm happy to address any questions you might have.
[1:09:33] We're looking at the ability to have multi-family units
[1:09:36] here, as second and third story, upper floor, residential units.
[1:09:40] And really again, a pedestrian oriented design
[1:09:43] to tap into the proximity to Miracle Mile.
[1:09:47] And Jason, do a good job showing you where we are located on that and this is just a vision of what it could look like and when we talk about pedestrian amenity that would be sized so that pedestrians bicyclists anything non vehicular could cross over to the miracle mile property and again that's just a visual what it could be and all this is outlined in the city's vision for miracle mile
[1:10:17] that plan was in 2005, but it was an enhanced plan to really address the changing commercial
[1:10:24] development trends. Keith, did you have anything you wanted to add?
[1:10:30] We've been working on it for 20 years, I guess.
[1:10:35] So that's what I started.
[1:10:37] So we're still trying to get there one more time.
[1:10:41] And this is a graphic right out of the adhesion plan for Miracle Mile.
[1:10:45] And it's really what we consider to be a shared vision.
[1:10:48] And again, if the properties adjacent to us would like to file their own applications in the future,
[1:10:54] we're happy to help with them with any applications.
[1:10:57] I think we've done a lot to pave the way.
[1:11:00] Just in overview this, I'm just going to fly through this real quick.
[1:11:03] But this is the point where we think there's alignment with the comprehensive plan,
[1:11:07] and shows it's compatible.
[1:11:10] There's just some concurrency analysis.
[1:11:12] there's really sufficient capacity with water, sewer, drainage, and there's no impact to
[1:11:20] solid waste. Traffic is a little more specialized, so I'm happy to defer over to Kimley
[1:11:26] Horn for that, but there is an overall reduction in trips. And then the school capacity
[1:11:32] right now, all schools have capacity available, as well as the numerous private school choices
[1:11:39] and options available to students.
[1:11:42] And once the plan goes into effect, of course,
[1:11:44] we'll work with the schools to make sure
[1:11:46] that they're being accommodated.
[1:11:49] Well, since, come on, stop for a second.
[1:11:51] Since you haven't decided what you're
[1:11:53] going to build there, what is the calculations based
[1:11:56] on of the proposed needs on that prior slide?
[1:12:01] Correct.
[1:12:03] I mean, we got 81, 50 gallons per day.
[1:12:05] post-demand 34,000 Galls for that's huge difference.
[1:12:10] That's kind of a maximum build out.
[1:12:12] Just utilizing some figures out of the comprehensive plan.
[1:12:18] And it might be well below that, because it is well below that now.
[1:12:22] I'm sorry, come on down Jason.
[1:12:25] Most of the time when we do this analysis for
[1:12:28] Comprehensive plans, they're doing it based on the maximum square footage.
[1:12:32] Like the FAR that's the maximum is allowed under the sea commercial land use and then they're just building into what that demand would be.
[1:12:41] Okay.
[1:12:42] Okay.
[1:12:43] Thank you.
[1:12:44] Yeah, that's great.
[1:12:45] It is using like the most intense opportunities just to make sure that they're sufficient capacity.
[1:12:54] So, you know, we believe this supports the miracle mile vision.
[1:12:58] We think this is very much market responsive and physically sound land use.
[1:13:03] The infrastructure is ready.
[1:13:05] We believe this is compatible and would be a low impact to the surrounding area,
[1:13:10] and that there's a community benefit by continuing to build out walkable communities.
[1:13:17] So with that said, I'm here to answer any questions you might have.
[1:13:22] We did conduct just for the record and neighborhood meeting, but also if there's questions or
[1:13:26] I'm gonna say I'm here to help you know, that's some one of the questions I have it's the
[1:13:33] Exconnecting a miracle mile, but how does it connect to the neighbor because in that one
[1:13:37] Screen shot you had or the vision you show that the row goes away and through the property, right?
[1:13:44] It's an existing that's an existing row, but that's gonna make the right there that goes into
[1:13:52] Royal palm right
[1:13:54] We also have direct access to Indian River Boulevard.
[1:13:58] Okay.
[1:13:59] South end of the part twenty four.
[1:14:01] Sorry, can you speak into the microphone, please?
[1:14:04] Yeah. So what is doing is it's not just connecting
[1:14:06] Merikawaii also giving opportunity to connect to the surrounding properties.
[1:14:12] Just know.
[1:14:13] We currently connect to the surrounding properties on Fifth Avenue.
[1:14:17] That's how you enter the property.
[1:14:22] Yeah.
[1:14:22] perhaps at other slide, you know, the cycling or area there you go, so that's
[1:14:32] fifth avenue there on the left down to the property and then it stops.
[1:14:35] And it stops, right? That's, it makes it a little more complete now.
[1:14:40] And that's Jason's follow-up on the pedestrian connections.
[1:14:45] Yeah, administrative application.
[1:14:50] So if you're painting what you eventually put in there it makes it more accessible to the surrounding properties of people on a walk, you know, have to drive correct. Yeah, cool.
[1:15:02] Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:15:05] Yeah.
[1:15:06] Looks great.
[1:15:08] Thanks.
[1:15:08] Looks good to be.
[1:15:09] Yeah.
[1:15:10] Okay. Any further comment?
[1:15:12] Questions from the dyes?
[1:15:14] I'll make a motion to approve.
[1:15:16] Okay.
[1:15:16] All right.
[1:15:17] Are we there?
[1:15:19] Yes.
[1:15:19] That's it.
[1:15:20] Oh, well, he's.
[1:15:22] She's going to make the motion.
[1:15:24] I was seconded.
[1:15:25] Okay. Public comment.
[1:15:26] Motion.
[1:15:29] Wow.
[1:15:30] Okay.
[1:15:31] No one's approaching the dyes.
[1:15:32] So close.
[1:15:33] public comment at 1047 and ask for a roll call.
[1:15:38] Mr. Voss. Yes.
[1:15:40] Mrs. Moore. Yes. Mr. Carol. Yes.
[1:15:42] Vice Mayor Dingo. Yes.
[1:15:44] Mayor Gatino. Yes.
[1:15:45] Passes five to zero.
[1:15:48] Inordinates of the City of Europe, each Florida,
[1:15:50] I'm ending the text of the comprehensive plan,
[1:15:52] land use amendment, objectives and policies,
[1:15:55] objective 10,
[1:15:56] miracle mile-quarter,
[1:15:58] providing for conflict and stability,
[1:16:00] providing for scriptors, errors,
[1:16:01] and providing for an effective date.
[1:16:07] Okay, okay, I keep this brief as possible.
[1:16:11] This is basically this application just follows up to the recommendation staff head.
[1:16:15] In the previous application, in the Future Lane use map amendment, the applicant was required
[1:16:21] to, because they're wanting to expand essentially what is the miracle mile commercial district,
[1:16:27] which is designated within the comprehensive plan.
[1:16:30] They need to update a figure which then creates the requirement, this is a text amendment.
[1:16:34] In addition, staff had recommendations of additional policies, which weren't incorporated into this application.
[1:16:43] So the policies deal with expanding the American-mile commercial district as the standards were to encourage the mixed use pedestrian-oriented development that they're proposing as the justification for the previous amendment.
[1:16:58] And then, ensure the site plan standards, any type of site plan application that comes through,
[1:17:04] would deal with any potential traffic impacts, especially to the 17th Street and Irverable
[1:17:09] of our intersections really, where the concern has been identified in their traffic study,
[1:17:14] and then any planned development tools to encourage walkable development patterns.
[1:17:18] So this is a legislative hearing.
[1:17:19] This has gone through the same as central process, the neighborhood workshop is not required
[1:17:25] for this particular application, but I'm sure at their workshop, they discussed this application
[1:17:30] also, but it went under application review, staff had the recommended policy changes,
[1:17:37] planning board, held a hearing in July 16th, and this is for U.S. City Council for your
[1:17:43] public hearing for adoption. Under the state statute, usually a text amendment is goes for
[1:17:48] what's called the state expedite review process, but there is a little caveat in the course
[1:17:53] is always some little tweak in the state statutes
[1:17:57] that if it is a text amendment directly related
[1:17:59] to a future-land use map amendment,
[1:18:02] it could be processed as a small scale amendment,
[1:18:07] and that's how we're processing this one.
[1:18:11] The commercial, and you have in your map,
[1:18:15] or in your packet, the map updating the figure 10,
[1:18:20] Would you see the yellow is the current boundary of the miracle mile commercial district and then the orange is essentially adding this property to that commercial district and this is essentially allows them to have development consistent with the miracle mile if not they would they would they would be allowed to have as intense development terms would allow creating the pedestrian oriented environment.
[1:18:48] Staff reviewed it.
[1:18:51] This is part of the future land use map designation of C commercial and the expansion
[1:18:56] of the American miles.
[1:18:57] So this is needed for the consistency with the policies and to address the roadway
[1:19:03] a level of service.
[1:19:05] Change conditions, the future land use map designation change to see commercial
[1:19:10] necessitated this as a change condition, the proposed policies are internally consistent with the
[1:19:17] comprehensive plan. And this is all based on the traffic report and the sufficient analysis that this
[1:19:24] that they provided with their future land use map application. And these additional policies will
[1:19:29] result in a more logically and orderly development pattern for the city. So with that staff,
[1:19:35] findings are this demonstrates the public interest and need.
[1:19:40] It's related to some changed conditions.
[1:19:43] The application is consistent with the complaint, sufficient data analysis is provided, and this should result in logic,
[1:19:49] logical and orderly development pattern for the city.
[1:19:51] Staff's recommendation was the approval of the land use element changes for the Miracle Mile corridor,
[1:20:00] and the planning and zoning board also recommended these four to zero to City Council.
[1:20:07] So if that's there's any questions?
[1:20:11] I'm good.
[1:20:12] Motion.
[1:20:12] I don't care.
[1:20:14] Motion to approve.
[1:20:15] Second.
[1:20:16] Okay.
[1:20:17] Any public comment?
[1:20:22] I just want to say that Jason is right.
[1:20:25] That this is right in line with the city's vision plan all the way back to 2005.
[1:20:30] It's what Linda alluded to.
[1:20:32] So I think that you're moving right in line with the upgrading or renovating or modernization
[1:20:43] of our city, whatever we want to call it to have sustainable, livable, walkable, workable
[1:20:48] places.
[1:20:49] So I think he's doing a really good job, taking us almost two years to get here.
[1:20:53] So I would support it and ask you to vote for it.
[1:20:57] Thank you.
[1:20:58] Thank you.
[1:20:58] Okay.
[1:20:59] It's a 1052, I see no one else approaching podium, so we'll close public comment and ask for a roll call.
[1:21:07] Mr. Boss?
[1:21:08] Yes.
[1:21:08] Mrs. Moore?
[1:21:09] Yes.
[1:21:10] Mr. Carroll?
[1:21:10] Yes.
[1:21:11] Vice Mayor James?
[1:21:12] Mayor Katuna?
[1:21:13] Yes.
[1:21:13] Passes five to zero.
[1:21:17] In ordinance of the City of Vera Beach floor, I'm ending chapter 62, Article 7, Airport, Master Plan, land use zones, Section 62.104, storage hours, chapter 67, use specific standards, Section 67.13, see 19 outdoor storage areas, to amend the requirements for outdoor storage areas or yards and industrial zoning districts, providing for codification, providing for correction of scrubbers,
[1:21:45] of airs providing for complex and
[1:21:47] separability and providing for an effective date.
[1:21:53] Jason Jeffery is a planning director.
[1:21:56] This public carrying is related to a
[1:22:00] applicant initiated amendment to our
[1:22:02] land development regulations.
[1:22:04] The applicant is Timothy Jarred who leases the
[1:22:07] former team deep property city airport.
[1:22:10] I think he's looking to do some more outdoor
[1:22:11] storage in terms of development with a project.
[1:22:15] With there, he identified or raised the concern to staff through the application about some of the stringent nature of the outdoor storage, especially the requirement, especially the buffering requirements.
[1:22:30] And at the prepared this application and staff has reviewed it, to kind of give you a brief overview of the proposed amendment.
[1:22:38] It updates Section 62.104 with storage yards and L in the airport light industrial districts.
[1:22:46] These are, this is the zoning district specific to the airport area.
[1:22:50] It revises the section to remove unique standards for outdoor storage yards, adds a reference to the standard outdoor storage yards.
[1:22:59] that we have in chapter 67.
[1:23:02] And then in section 67.13C I've updated those to be more consistent for outdoor storage
[1:23:13] in all of industrial districts.
[1:23:15] List of creates a list of development standards applicable to all outdoor storage areas in any
[1:23:21] industrial zoning district and then provides a list of specific standards for just the M industrial.
[1:23:28] And so in the M industrial, there are additional screening requirements.
[1:23:34] So what's interesting is kind of flipping what we have the current situation.
[1:23:38] Our current code actually makes the buffering stands for outdoor storage area.
[1:23:43] It's more stringent in the airport late industrial district where there are no adjacent residential uses.
[1:23:51] You know, they're all internal.
[1:23:52] I don't know, we're trying to buffer outdoor storage from adjacent industrial uses or airport
[1:24:00] industrial uses where really, and this is, I'll get into a little further with the consistency
[1:24:07] with the complaint, you'll see that in policy 3.3C it talks about ensuring compatibility
[1:24:14] uses and buffering, buffering, where appropriate to protect residential uses or buffering standards
[1:24:20] are really supposed to protect the less intense uses
[1:24:24] or the residential uses.
[1:24:27] So it's more logical because the M industrial district,
[1:24:30] the M industrial district is essentially our zoning district.
[1:24:33] Then it's a long old Dixie and commerce
[1:24:35] where they can be a J,
[1:24:37] where you haven't industrial uses adjacent to residential uses.
[1:24:40] That's where you want to ensure that there are more buffering
[1:24:45] in terms of those uses, not uses at the airport.
[1:24:49] So, this proposed amendment basically reverses what they were asking for just be consistent with
[1:24:57] the M, but in doing through the analysis identified that no really the way we are approaching
[1:25:03] buffering standards for our industrial districts was the total reverse of what the policy
[1:25:09] was not consistent. Our current rules were not consistent with the complaint. This will bring
[1:25:13] the rules for outdoor storage in line to be consistent with the, uh, with our, the
[1:25:20] comprehensive plan. Um, and this should also be consistent with the, a tent purpose of
[1:25:25] the zoning districts. Again, the airport light industrial is about more intense airport
[1:25:29] uses, uh, type industrial uses at the airport versus our M industrial district where it's, uh,
[1:25:36] uh, down in the core of the city where it might be adjacent to less intense commercial mix use or
[1:25:41] even residential districts. We have places where industrial does bump up to residential
[1:25:45] uses, especially along North, kind of US-1 going North, that's all industrial. So this
[1:25:51] is staff's determination. This will really create a more orderly and logical development
[1:25:57] pattern for the city. And plus it's consistent with a really identified policy 3.2, we are
[1:26:04] supposed to regulate use and development of land in a reasonable and transparent manner,
[1:26:08] you could argue the rules as they are now was not very reasonable to be more stringent on
[1:26:14] industrial uses adjacent to other industrial uses. So with that staff, we worked with the
[1:26:20] applicant to prepare this text amount, so staff recommended approval, planning and zoning board,
[1:26:25] also recommended approval for to zero. Makes sense. Yeah, I hope it makes sense. That makes perfectly
[1:26:34] good sense. It does. So motion for the room? Motion to approve. I'll second that motion.
[1:26:42] Do we have any public comment?
[1:26:45] The applicant is here. Oh, the applicant. Oh, sorry. No, it's okay. I don't want to jump ahead of
[1:26:51] anybody. Rebecca Grohal and BV Engineering here on behalf of the applicant. And I just really
[1:26:57] want to thank staff for understanding how consistency and a little bit of common sense
[1:27:03] makes for really great land development regulations.
[1:27:06] We work in a couple of counties,
[1:27:09] and it becomes significantly easier to comply
[1:27:12] with land development codes and bring in projects
[1:27:14] that we want to feel good about that comply
[1:27:17] with your own codes when it's consistently written and applied.
[1:27:22] So, happy answering your questions.
[1:27:23] You might have about this text amendment,
[1:27:26] otherwise, you know, I just asked for your support
[1:27:29] in your approval.
[1:27:30] Thank you so much.
[1:27:31] Thanks for being here.
[1:27:34] At 10.59, I'll open it up to public comment.
[1:27:39] Seeing no one approached the proteomoclos public comment 10.59 and ask for roll call.
[1:27:46] Mr. Vaz. Yes. Mrs. Moore. Yes. Mr. Carol. Yes. Vice Mayor Dingo. Yes.
[1:27:51] Mayor Kachunau. Yes. Passes five to zero.
[1:27:57] An ordinance of the city of Arab beach floor,
[1:27:58] amending the text of the comprehensive plan, transportation,
[1:28:01] information element and capital improvements element, capital improvements schedule, providing
[1:28:06] for conflict and severability, providing first-cribters, airs, providing for an effective
[1:28:10] date.
[1:28:13] Again, Jason Jeffries for the planning director.
[1:28:20] This is an administrative item.
[1:28:23] This immense, the text of the company is a plan, transportation and capital improvements
[1:28:27] elements.
[1:28:28] Basically, what is kind of initiated this project is that we are just incorporating some of the projects that are identified in the county recently adopted or through the MPO, the 2050,
[1:28:46] into our county MPO, a long range transportation plan.
[1:28:50] So we want to make sure that the aviation extension,
[1:28:53] both aviation projects are listed on in our complex.
[1:28:57] So that's the expansion of aviation Boulevard itself.
[1:29:00] Plus aviation extension, which goes through some vacant land,
[1:29:04] connects up to 30, 37 Bolver.
[1:29:06] These are projects that the county is working on.
[1:29:11] And F.
[1:29:12] Our both working on.
[1:29:14] We also wanted to add a 17th Street, and even the intersection
[1:29:17] improvements, as we discussed in the previous hearings,
[1:29:21] this kind of relates to three corners.
[1:29:24] Also some of the projects that want to be done around
[1:29:25] American Mile making sure it's identified that there's
[1:29:29] operational improvements that need to be made to that
[1:29:31] intersection.
[1:29:35] This does also updates the complaint to the current city's
[1:29:40] capital budget as required by the state statutes for
[1:29:43] to stay consistent. So with that, this has gone through extensive. This is a state expire review process,
[1:29:51] so this will be, we'll go off to...
[1:30:01] Today's hearing is this, you're transmitting it to the state. They have the 30 days review. It will come back for your adoption.
[1:30:09] Let's see if this is.
[1:30:12] This is probably not tober sometime, about 30 days later. It's 30 to 45 days later.
[1:30:21] This does address the need in public interest.
[1:30:23] provides consistency with the comprehensive plan updates the roadway
[1:30:27] uh, improvement plans and capital budgeting to uh, so that our
[1:30:31] compliance consistent with the city's uh,
[1:30:33] a complaint budget. Uh, the change conditions, um, uh, uh,
[1:30:39] the change conditions, the update, the adoption of the updated roadway
[1:30:42] improvement plan by the county, uh, it's internally consistent with
[1:30:45] the comprehensive plan policy 1.4 states the city shall maintain
[1:30:50] transportation system and level service standards. This is based on sufficient data and
[1:30:56] analysis. We're heavily leaning on the 2050 long-range transportation plan prepared by the county.
[1:31:06] And it also creates logically an orderly development pattern based on long-range plans and
[1:31:12] and orderly development patterns in the city.
[1:31:16] So with that, staff's finding is the
[1:31:19] amendment is consistent with the standards of review.
[1:31:22] Staff's recommendation was approval of this transportation
[1:31:25] and capital improvement elements, tax amendments,
[1:31:29] and planning is only board also at July 16th meeting,
[1:31:32] recommended approval for to zero.
[1:31:38] I can't believe that wasn't already in their aviation
[1:31:40] It's been in the works long.
[1:31:42] Yeah, that's fine.
[1:31:43] Yeah, so it should have been in there.
[1:31:45] Yeah, so probably should have been there
[1:31:47] or will we adopt in 2018, so we want to.
[1:31:51] Anyone like to make a motion?
[1:31:54] Motion to approve set ordinance.
[1:31:56] Second.
[1:31:57] All right.
[1:31:58] Okay.
[1:31:59] Any public comment?
[1:32:02] Seeing none, I'll close public comment 11.
[1:32:04] Oh, four AM and ask for a roll call.
[1:32:08] Mr. Boss.
[1:32:09] Yes.
[1:32:09] Mrs. Moore.
[1:32:10] Yes. Mr. Carol.
[1:32:11] Yes.
[1:32:11] Mayor Dingo. Yes. Mayor Katunia. Yes. Pass five to zero. Yes.
[1:32:17] An ordinance of the City of Air Beach floor to relating to septic tank effluent pump
[1:32:21] step systems modifying section 78-54 of the code of the City of Air Beach floor to city code
[1:32:28] to ride incentives for installation of step systems and gravity sewer assessment project
[1:32:33] providing for a business impact statement, providing for conflict and severability, providing for
[1:32:38] application providing for the
[1:32:40] correction of scavengers airs, providing
[1:32:42] for ratification of certain
[1:32:43] existing ordinances and providing
[1:32:45] for an effective date.
[1:33:22] Good morning, Rob Bolton
[1:33:24] Water and Surdirector, this
[1:33:27] ordinance is a an ordinance for
[1:33:31] incentives that you've seen over and
[1:33:34] over and over again in the past,
[1:33:35] However, in this case, it applies to the town of Indian Railroad,
[1:33:39] and really anywhere that a gravity sewer system is installed versus a step system.
[1:33:47] It gives the same monetary value to the gravity sewer customer,
[1:33:54] as it does to the step system.
[1:33:57] There's two parts to it.
[1:33:58] One is the step up and save component where it's accredited for getting rid of your septic tank and hooking to the sewer.
[1:34:04] That's $2,290.
[1:34:08] In the case of the step system, there was a $1,100 credit if you paid cash for your equipment.
[1:34:15] In the case of the gravity sewer projects that are occurring in the town,
[1:34:20] the city is fronting the money for the installation of the gravity sewer part.
[1:34:25] The town is paying for the roadwork and drainage that's being done.
[1:34:30] So, if a customer comes in before we do our first assessment role, once the project is done,
[1:34:37] we'll tell them what is owed, we'll give a deadline, which the deadline will be before
[1:34:42] the town meets to have the assessment role ratified, if they come in and pay for the assessment
[1:34:49] in cash upfront, then we will give them another $1100, if they go on the assessment role,
[1:34:58] they will not get the $1100.
[1:35:00] Oh, OK.
[1:35:02] OK.
[1:35:02] For the town of any river shores, we've also applied for a grant
[1:35:09] or, yeah, I've submitted it last week.
[1:35:12] So we applied for a grant for both step system installations.
[1:35:17] And then for the Gravity sewer component,
[1:35:20] I think the Gravity sewer was about 12,000 to 12,500 per
[1:35:26] which all in when it's said and then brings it down closer to what the step system installation is if if the grant is
[1:35:40] the
[1:35:41] This is just for any river shores, but the same it really is our ordinance so it applies the the driving factor was in the river shores
[1:35:50] But it's a blanket across our entire water and sewer. Okay, great. That's where I was getting out
[1:35:56] help each area down there in moreings still applies.
[1:36:00] It's still applies to that.
[1:36:02] Everybody could wear as is, say, the town of Indian
[1:36:04] or resource because that's what more or less, you know,
[1:36:07] brought it to the attention that we should give something.
[1:36:11] Okay.
[1:36:11] So, Rob, these septic to sewer connections are mandated
[1:36:15] by the state with a deadline of 2030.
[1:36:20] July 1st of 2030 for areas outside the city limits.
[1:36:24] Thank you.
[1:36:25] Okay. So, I'll make a motion that we approve this ordinance for dashes, ordinance,
[1:36:35] column of your new reviewers and centers to step assistance and gravity sewer with the understanding it's for the whole service area.
[1:36:43] It is for the whole.
[1:36:44] Okay.
[1:36:45] And you actually have a town, new town council member that's, yes.
[1:36:49] Three, some more.
[1:36:53] It's a shame Bob left, I couldn't hear that there's something positive, you know.
[1:37:02] We have a good second.
[1:37:03] Tell the member Carol.
[1:37:04] How kind of thank you.
[1:37:05] Thank you.
[1:37:06] So, public comment.
[1:37:09] Roll call, please.
[1:37:13] Mr. Boss.
[1:37:14] Yes.
[1:37:14] Mr. Moore.
[1:37:15] Yes.
[1:37:15] Mr. Carol.
[1:37:16] Yes.
[1:37:17] Vice Mayor Dingo.
[1:37:18] Yes.
[1:37:18] Yeah. Yes. That's the five to zero. And with this, we're going to take a 10 minute break to 1120. Thank you.