[0:18] Y

[0:19] » You guys ready?

[0:22] » All right. I open the close session

[0:24] meeting today, September 14th, 2026.

[0:28] This time is 5 p.m.

[0:33] » Can I get a roll call, please?

[0:35] » Council member Miller

[0:36] » Here.

[0:36] » Council member Thorp

[0:37] » Here.

[0:38] » Council member Wolsey

[0:39] » Here. Deputy Mayor Beaver

[0:40] » Here.

[0:40] » Mayor Venibal

[0:41] » Here.

[0:42] » All present.

[0:43] » All right. Do we have any public

[0:44] comment?

[0:45] » We have no comments today.

[0:46] » Mayor, uh before you move on uh further

[0:48] in close session, I would ask that we

[0:50] add an item to the close session agenda.

[0:52] » Okay.

[0:52] » Um that would be real property

[0:54] negotiations related to the the Koi

[0:56] Builder's property.

[0:59] Um we received notification

[1:01] um after the posting of the agenda

[1:04] regarding an action that we need to take

[1:06] uh regarding the uh foreclosure sale of

[1:09] that property.

[1:10] » Okay. So you have to vote to add it to

[1:13] the agenda.

[1:14] » All right. Do you want to do a roll call

[1:16] vote or you want to just do a regular?

[1:18] » It doesn't matter to me.

[1:19] » Need a motion first.

[1:20] » You do.

[1:21] » I move that we add the item to the

[1:23] agenda.

[1:23] » Second.

[1:24] » I got a first and a second. All in

[1:26] favor?

[1:26] » I. Any opposed?

[1:29] » Okay.

[1:30] » Mayor, I have an item.

[1:31] » Yes, sir.

[1:32] » On the close session item that's listed,

[1:33] I think it's a uh currently, not the koi

[1:36] builder once. Want to make sure we we

[1:37] got that separated. I'll be recusing on

[1:39] that. I have a officially recused. I

[1:42] have a personal financial interest in

[1:43] that uh potential litigation. So, I will

[1:46] be uh missing that part of it. If you

[1:48] want to do the koi builders first, I can

[1:50] go in then come out or however you guys

[1:51] want to do it, let me know. So, I'll be

[1:53] recusing.

[1:55] » Okay.

[1:57] All right. No public comment.

[1:59] We'll move to close session. Time is

[2:02] 501.

[2:05] [clears throat]

[34:40] Okay, [laughter]

[34:44] » Sorry.

[34:46] I tell you what,

[34:48] » I just had my head in the clouds in the

[34:51] sand.

[34:53] [laughter]

[34:54] » They cancel.

[34:55] » All right. Are we ready?

[34:57] » We're ready.

[35:00] » Yes.

[35:01] » Are you guys ready? [laughter]

[35:03] [snorts]

[35:04] » All right. We'll open the special

[35:06] meeting on September 14, 2026.

[35:09] Time is 5:34.

[35:17] Do we do the pledge or? Yeah.

[35:21] Young lady, will you lead us in the

[35:22] pledge of alle allegiance?

[35:35] Begin. I pledge algiance to the flag of

[35:38] the United States of America and to the

[35:41] republic for which it stands, one nation

[35:44] under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[35:47] justice for all.

[35:48] » Bless you.

[35:52] » Thank you.

[35:55] [clears throat]

[36:00] » Can we get a roll call, please?

[36:01] » Council member Miller.

[36:04] here.

[36:05] » Council member Thorp

[36:06] » Here.

[36:07] » Council member Wolsey

[36:08] » Here. Deputy Mayor Baieber

[36:09] » Here.

[36:10] » Mayor Venibal

[36:10] » Here.

[36:11] » All present.

[36:12] » Okay. Do we have uh public comment?

[36:15] » No comments for this special meeting.

[36:17] » All right. Now we have the special uh

[36:20] presentation of the paramedic squad and

[36:22] the vehicles.

[36:26] Mayor Council, we're going to re go

[36:28] outside and meet with the uh the Yukapa

[36:31] Fire Department and introduce the

[36:32] council and the community to our new

[36:34] paramedic squad equipment and potential

[36:36] staffing that'll be staffing the new

[36:38] paramedic squad. And then we'll return

[36:40] back after by six o'clock and recommence

[36:42] the back to the regular meeting.

[36:44] » Okay.

[36:48] [clears throat]

[37:04] You can leave your ticket cover.

[37:16] Have you changed your diapers yet?

[37:21] You

[1:00:17] All right, Bob, you ready?

[1:00:20] Justin.

[1:00:22] [clears throat]

[1:00:22] » Okay.

[1:00:24] All right. Well, I'm going to adjourn

[1:00:25] the meeting and at 6 o'clock.

[1:00:32] » No, adjourn the adjourn the other

[1:00:34] meeting. Sorry, we had a a little one

[1:00:37] before and now I'm adjourning that one

[1:00:39] and I'm gonna start the new one. So, be

[1:00:43] patient with me.

[1:00:46] All right. So, now I call the order to

[1:00:48] the open regular uh city council

[1:00:51] successors housing authority meeting at

[1:00:54] September 14th, 2026.

[1:00:57] Time is six o'clock. Did I announce a

[1:01:00] time to the adjournment?

[1:01:02] Okay, good. All right,

[1:01:06] we'll have uh Pastor Vaughn and then

[1:01:12] Denise, will you lead us into the uh

[1:01:14] pledge of allegiance? Okay. All right.

[1:01:25] Let us pray.

[1:01:27] Heavenly Father, we acknowledge that you

[1:01:30] are the source of all authority, the

[1:01:33] author of peace and the giver of true

[1:01:35] strength. We pull back from the noise of

[1:01:38] the world and invite your deep grounding

[1:01:41] presence in this chamber tonight. Lord,

[1:01:45] we ask that you meet the hearts of the

[1:01:48] this council and this community together

[1:01:51] in absolute unity. remind us that

[1:01:54] despite our different perspective, we

[1:01:58] share a singular sacred purpose to love

[1:02:02] and serve the people of this beautiful

[1:02:05] city. Give our leaders the courage to

[1:02:08] listen with humility, the strength to

[1:02:11] speak with kindness, and the wisdom to

[1:02:15] seek the common common good above all

[1:02:18] else. Break down every wall of division

[1:02:21] and let your peace rule in every heart.

[1:02:24] Pour out your supernatural endurance

[1:02:27] upon our mayor, council members, and

[1:02:31] city staff. When the decisions are heavy

[1:02:34] and the paths are complex, anchor them

[1:02:37] in the truth and fortify them with your

[1:02:41] with integrity and wisdom.

[1:02:45] We ask for your protective hand over our

[1:02:48] neighborhoods, our local businesses, and

[1:02:50] the first responders who sacrifice daily

[1:02:54] to keep our city safe. May the work done

[1:02:57] here tonight heal what is broken,

[1:03:01] strengthen what is weary, and build a

[1:03:04] united future that brings honor to your

[1:03:07] name. This we pray in your most powerful

[1:03:10] name. Amen. Amen.

[1:03:14] Please join me

[1:03:20] to the flag of the United States of

[1:03:22] America and to the reps

[1:03:27] nation

[1:03:29] indivisible with liberty and justice for

[1:03:31] all.

[1:03:45] Miss Anna, can we get a roll call,

[1:03:46] please?

[1:03:47] » Council member Miller,

[1:03:48] » Here.

[1:03:48] » Council member Thorp

[1:03:50] » Here.

[1:03:50] » Council member Wolsey,

[1:03:51] » Here.

[1:03:51] » Deputy Mayor Beaver

[1:03:53] » Here.

[1:03:53] » Mayor Venibal

[1:03:54] » Here.

[1:03:54] » All present.

[1:03:56] » All right, Mr. Attorney, is there

[1:03:57] anything that

[1:04:00] » Uh Yes, Mayor. with uh item A on the

[1:04:03] close session agenda. Um the city

[1:04:06] council gave settlement direction or I

[1:04:09] guess litigation direction by consensus.

[1:04:11] Um on the item that we added to close

[1:04:15] session, the city council gave direction

[1:04:18] on the credit bid uh for the trustee

[1:04:21] sale. I can't go into what that specific

[1:04:24] direction is because it would compromise

[1:04:26] the successful auction of that property.

[1:04:29] Um, however, I did want to note that the

[1:04:31] vote on that item uh was 4 to one with

[1:04:35] council member Woolsey voting no.

[1:04:39] » Thank you.

[1:04:40] » Okay. Thank you,

[1:04:42] Dr. Moore.

[1:04:44] Are there any changes to the agenda?

[1:04:47] » Mayor Council, no changes to the agenda.

[1:04:50] » All right. So, now we have the National

[1:04:52] Senior Month presentation by Sarah

[1:05:01] You wanted me to say your last name,

[1:05:02] huh?

[1:05:02] » I was I was gonna demolish it here.

[1:05:05] [laughter]

[1:05:06] » Good evening, Mayor, Deputy Mayor, and

[1:05:08] City Council. As we recognize National

[1:05:10] Senior Center Month, we're celebrating

[1:05:12] more than a facility or a calendar of

[1:05:14] programs. We're celebrating the people,

[1:05:17] the places, and the opportunities that

[1:05:19] help our older adults live well, connect

[1:05:22] well, and age well. That commitment is

[1:05:25] made possible through the work of many

[1:05:27] people throughout our community. And

[1:05:28] tonight, I'm pleased to introduce just a

[1:05:30] few of those individuals who help bring

[1:05:32] this vision to life. First, please join

[1:05:35] me in recognizing Park and Recreation

[1:05:37] Commission Chairperson Tara Van Grow.

[1:05:40] Our comm

[1:05:42] our commission plays an important role

[1:05:44] in supporting parks, recreation

[1:05:46] programs, and facilities that enhance

[1:05:48] the quality of life for our entire

[1:05:50] community, including older adults. Next,

[1:05:52] we have community services supervisor

[1:05:55] Vanessa Ormilio, whose area of

[1:05:57] supervision includes our senior center

[1:05:59] programs and services at the Shar

[1:06:02] Community Center. Vanessa and her team

[1:06:04] help provide a welcoming place where

[1:06:06] seniors can participate in programs,

[1:06:08] build relationships, and remain an

[1:06:09] active part of the community. We also

[1:06:12] have a couple of our wonderful, amazing

[1:06:14] part-time staff. So, if we can also

[1:06:17] introduce um Rebecca Ignu and Brad Blue.

[1:06:21] Their dedication and day-to-day

[1:06:23] interactions help create the welcoming

[1:06:24] environment and sense of community that

[1:06:26] our seniors experience when they visit

[1:06:28] our center. And last but not least,

[1:06:32] we have Natalie Ericson Harper, our

[1:06:35] gentle moves instructor, who is also

[1:06:36] with us this evening. Through her

[1:06:38] exercise classes, older adults have an

[1:06:40] opportunity to focus on mobility,

[1:06:42] strength, balance, and movement, all of

[1:06:45] which support healthy and active

[1:06:46] lifestyles. So, at this time, I am

[1:06:49] pleased to turn it over to Commissioner

[1:06:50] Van Grout.

[1:06:53] » Good evening, Mayor Vanal and Council

[1:06:55] members. I'm honored to be here this

[1:06:57] evening on behalf of the Park and

[1:06:58] Recreation Commission to acknowledge

[1:07:00] September's National Senior Center

[1:07:02] Month, as designated by the National

[1:07:04] Council on Aging. With roughly a third

[1:07:06] of our population being 55 or better, I

[1:07:09] think it's safe to say that the theme

[1:07:10] for this year's Senior Center Month,

[1:07:12] Happier Birthdays Happen Here, is one

[1:07:14] that we have taken to heart. In addition

[1:07:16] to providing our seniors with

[1:07:18] nutritional support through

[1:07:19] collaboration with family services

[1:07:21] association, the Sharer Center provides

[1:07:23] lowcost classes such as chair aerobics,

[1:07:26] weekly events like tomorrow's coffee and

[1:07:29] conversation 8:30 to 10:30, a variety of

[1:07:32] clubs such as paint and art, free

[1:07:34] vaccine and health clinics, and access

[1:07:36] to valuable resources. Informational

[1:07:38] events have included education on senior

[1:07:41] targeting scams, while our Golden Wheels

[1:07:43] program assists seniors 62 plus and

[1:07:45] disabled adults with transportation to

[1:07:48] the grocery store and on other errands

[1:07:50] within the city limits for an affordable

[1:07:52] yearly fee. But beyond what the center

[1:07:55] offers in terms of programming, I think

[1:07:56] it's essential that we highlight the

[1:07:58] importance of ensuring that our older

[1:08:00] population is provided with spaces that

[1:08:02] feel like home, where bonding is

[1:08:04] emphasized, needs are met, and

[1:08:05] engagement, and encouragement is

[1:08:07] assured. As it says on the National

[1:08:09] Council on Aging website, quote,

[1:08:11] "Happier birthdays don't start with

[1:08:13] candles or cake. They start with

[1:08:15] connection, purpose, support, and

[1:08:17] community." End quote. Investing in the

[1:08:19] lives of our senior population is

[1:08:21] investing in our community as a whole.

[1:08:24] In ensuring that we have a host of

[1:08:25] wiser, more experienced guidance and

[1:08:27] perspectives within our community, we

[1:08:29] are better positioned to make lasting,

[1:08:31] more responsible decisions while

[1:08:33] simultaneously remembering the history

[1:08:35] of how far we've come. In caring for our

[1:08:37] aging community, we treat our teach our

[1:08:39] children to do the same while also

[1:08:42] creating an environment in which we

[1:08:43] ourselves will also want to remain as we

[1:08:46] grow older. Providing for our seniors

[1:08:48] assures them that we are grateful to for

[1:08:50] the myriad contributions they have made

[1:08:52] and continue to make in Ukipa and

[1:08:54] beyond. The center and its programming

[1:08:56] represents some of the best of what our

[1:08:58] community represents both to ourselves

[1:09:00] and to those seeking to potentially make

[1:09:02] their home in Ukipa.

[1:09:04] In addition to thanking the community

[1:09:06] services department for their dedication

[1:09:07] to our seniors and the council for

[1:09:09] recognizing its importance, we would

[1:09:11] like to encourage senior residents who

[1:09:13] don't already to utilize the services

[1:09:15] provided. take a drop in class, join a

[1:09:17] club, participate in an activity. I'm

[1:09:20] hoping friendship bracelet making comes

[1:09:22] back or attend an event and in so doing

[1:09:24] know that you are absolutely valued as

[1:09:26] the anchors of our community. Thank you.

[1:09:31] » Thank you. Can we come up here and get a

[1:09:32] picture

[1:09:34] this first?

[1:09:34] » Oh, yeah. I'm sorry.

[1:09:36] » Yeah. Sorry about that.

[1:09:37] » No worry. Sorry. Proclamation of the

[1:09:39] city council of the city of Ukipa

[1:09:40] declaring the month of September 2026 as

[1:09:43] National Senior Citizen Month. live

[1:09:45] well, connect well, age well. Whereas

[1:09:48] September is recognized as National

[1:09:50] Senior Citizen Senior Center Month,

[1:09:52] celebrating the vital role senior

[1:09:54] centers play in helping older adults

[1:09:56] remain active, connected, healthy, and

[1:09:58] engaged in their communities. And

[1:10:00] whereas the 2026 theme, happier

[1:10:02] birthdays happen here, celebrates the

[1:10:04] friendships, experiences, opportunities,

[1:10:06] and meaningful connections that make

[1:10:07] each year of life richer and more

[1:10:09] fulfilling. And whereas programs such as

[1:10:13] Golden Wheels helps older adults remain

[1:10:15] connected to essential services,

[1:10:16] activities, and the communities they

[1:10:18] call home, while the sheer community

[1:10:20] center provides a place to gather, build

[1:10:22] friendships, learn, celebrate, and

[1:10:24] create lasting memories. And whereas

[1:10:27] National Senior Center Month provides an

[1:10:29] opportunity to recognize and celebrate

[1:10:30] the people, programs, and connections

[1:10:32] that make senior centers places where

[1:10:34] older adults can live well, connect

[1:10:36] well, age well, and where happier

[1:10:38] birthdays happen here. Now therefore be

[1:10:41] it proclaimed that the city council of

[1:10:42] the city of Ukipa, California hereby

[1:10:44] recognizes September 2026 as national

[1:10:47] senior center month celebrates the older

[1:10:50] adults who enrich our community and

[1:10:52] honors the dedicated individuals who

[1:10:54] help make Ukipas senior services a place

[1:10:56] where friendships, purpose, connection,

[1:10:59] and happier birthdays happen here every

[1:11:01] day. It is signed by the Ukipa City

[1:11:02] Council and the seal of the city is

[1:11:04] affixed here onto

[1:11:08] [applause]

[1:11:52] » [applause]

[1:11:54] » Hang on. One more picture. One more

[1:11:56] picture. Go ahead. [laughter]

[1:11:59] » Sorry.

[1:12:06] [laughter]

[1:12:08] » Hey, thank you guys.

[1:12:19] » I was like, I was gonna say it.

[1:12:43] » [clears throat]

[1:12:47] » All right. Well, thank you guys very

[1:12:48] much. Uh, yaps dog of the month. Here

[1:12:55] we go.

[1:13:06] » Oh my gosh.

[1:13:08] » Hi, my name is Sarra. I'm with Yaps.

[1:13:12] [laughter]

[1:13:13] » I have Astro. He's only a year and eight

[1:13:16] months. He's still very excited to meet

[1:13:18] everyone.

[1:13:22] Um, he's up for adoption right now.

[1:13:24] Yeah. Along with a bunch of other dogs.

[1:13:26] We got some a lot of big dogs right now,

[1:13:28] but we got some cute little shepherd

[1:13:29] puppies and everyone would love to meet

[1:13:31] you guys. I also want to invite you guys

[1:13:34] to Bets for Pets. It's October 17th.

[1:13:36] It's our 15th one. It's casino night, so

[1:13:39] it is 21 and up. And we've got dinner,

[1:13:43] raffle prizes, and just a full night of

[1:13:45] events and lots of fun. And please come

[1:13:49] and join us.

[1:13:50] » All right. Get a picture with Astro.

[1:13:52] » Yeah, I might as well get a picture with

[1:13:54] Matt Astro.

[1:13:55] » Oh, and he's a great Dane Pitty mix.

[1:13:58] » Yeah,

[1:14:05] » You can bring

[1:14:26] » [laughter]

[1:14:27] » All right,

[1:14:34] » There you go. There you go.

[1:14:35] » Awesome. Take some good

[1:14:42] cutie.

[1:14:43] to the home.

[1:14:52] » Okay.

[1:15:02] [clears throat]

[1:15:10] Okay,

[1:15:13] Miss City Clerk, do we have uh public

[1:15:16] comment?

[1:15:16] » Yes, Mayor, we do. We'll start with

[1:15:18] Denise Allen, followed by Daniel

[1:15:19] Hernandez.

[1:15:39] Good evening, council members and

[1:15:41] honorable mayor. I want to begin by

[1:15:44] first of all thanking the city council

[1:15:46] and the city staff for hosting such a

[1:15:49] heartfelt 911 event um last Friday.

[1:15:55] Yeah, we we shall never forget

[1:15:59] Um, I am here speaking on item number

[1:16:02] 12. The mayor was um, nice to allow me

[1:16:06] to speak because I can't stand for very

[1:16:08] long. So, please allow me to indulge you

[1:16:11] on item number 12. I stand before you

[1:16:14] tonight with an ask that you please

[1:16:17] consider coordinating our annual Make a

[1:16:20] Difference Day activities and events. As

[1:16:23] noted in your agenda staff report, Make

[1:16:25] a Difference Day has been a part of our

[1:16:27] community for more than 14 years. It

[1:16:31] actually began in 2007 with a great

[1:16:34] clean air planting project, which added

[1:16:38] 300 trees at Flagill Park and 100 trees

[1:16:41] along both sides of 13th Street from

[1:16:43] Yakipa Boulevard to Oak Glenn Road.

[1:16:46] It's held on the fourth Saturday in

[1:16:48] October. Make a difference day. It

[1:16:50] reminds us that we can create meaningful

[1:16:53] change. The event has brought our

[1:16:55] community together through acts of

[1:16:57] kindness and service and has definitely

[1:17:00] la left a lasting positive impact. Local

[1:17:04] volunteer projects such as planting

[1:17:06] trees, sk street streetscape

[1:17:08] beautifification and facility cleanups

[1:17:11] demonstrate how collective action can

[1:17:14] make a meaningful difference. I compiled

[1:17:17] a list of projects since 2007 up to 2020

[1:17:20] and I provided that to council and a

[1:17:23] spreadsheet. I love spreadsheets. And um

[1:17:26] I'm just going to highlight a few of

[1:17:28] those projects from that spreadsheet. As

[1:17:31] I said, we added 300 trees at Flag Hills

[1:17:34] Park, 100 along 13th Street. We planted

[1:17:37] we have planted over 350 trees as

[1:17:40] volunteers at Elorado Ranch. We planted

[1:17:43] over 202 trees and 74 shrubs at the 13th

[1:17:47] Street Sports Complex. Also, an amazing

[1:17:51] thing that happened in 2015 was the uh

[1:17:54] installation of 60,000 square feet of

[1:17:56] sod and that was done by all volunteers

[1:17:59] in the baseball fields. We planted 43

[1:18:02] trees around Chapman Heights and Sand

[1:18:05] Canyon over there by the ballparks. We

[1:18:08] planted 93 trees along Wildwood Canyon

[1:18:10] Road. We added 39 trees and 16 shrubs at

[1:18:14] Seventh Street Park along with a variety

[1:18:17] of other projects there. We planted 49

[1:18:19] trees and we also hand seated wild fly

[1:18:22] wild flowers along the slopes of Dun

[1:18:24] Dunlap Channel. We added 20 new trees

[1:18:26] and 30 shrubs along Yikipa Boulevard in

[1:18:29] front of Yukipa High School. We planted

[1:18:32] 19 trees at the Yukipa Community Park

[1:18:34] and 16 trees at Wildwood Canyon Park. 12

[1:18:38] trees and 10 shrubs along Oakland Road.

[1:18:41] three new oak trees at Yabs. Can I

[1:18:44] continue?

[1:18:46] » Yeah. Yeah, go ahead.

[1:18:47] » We completed a major trail restoration

[1:18:49] in the Oakland basin and painted several

[1:18:52] interior walls at the sheer center. We

[1:18:54] also repainted the garage and planted

[1:18:56] lots of shrubs in the recognition garden

[1:18:59] at the historic fire station. We

[1:19:02] installed new saw and planted benches at

[1:19:04] the Avenue A Park or Avenue I park. And

[1:19:07] then we completed several landscape

[1:19:09] improvement projects in our historic

[1:19:10] uptown. On average, the city has

[1:19:13] invested approximately $22,000 each year

[1:19:16] in Make a Difference Day projects. And I

[1:19:18] believe that investment has delivered

[1:19:20] meaningful returns.

[1:19:22] The various projects I've highlighted

[1:19:24] have added more than 1,250

[1:19:27] trees and 150 shrubs in various

[1:19:30] locations throughout our small town. a

[1:19:33] visible improvement we all can enjoy

[1:19:35] every single day. Still, a successful

[1:19:38] make a difference day requires more than

[1:19:40] coordination among community members and

[1:19:42] volunteer or organizations. It really

[1:19:45] does require a strong centralized

[1:19:48] leadership. Make a Difference Day gives

[1:19:50] you, our mayor and city council members,

[1:19:54] an annual opportunity to bring our

[1:19:56] residents together around a shared goal,

[1:19:59] that of strengthening our community. As

[1:20:02] leaders of our remarkable small town, I

[1:20:06] urge you to secure the funding and

[1:20:07] provide the leadership needed to

[1:20:09] coordinate citywide efforts and make the

[1:20:12] 2026 Make a Difference Day another

[1:20:16] successful community focused event. I

[1:20:20] thank you for listening and I thank you

[1:20:21] for allowing me to speak on this item.

[1:20:23] » Thank you. Thank you.

[1:20:28] » Daniel Hernandez followed by Hansen

[1:20:30] Wong.

[1:20:32] Mayor, please.

[1:20:34] » Sure. Can Can we uh I'm gonna just hold

[1:20:36] you just for one second. Go ahead, Bob.

[1:20:38] » Thank you, sir. Denise, I just want to

[1:20:40] say I know you're not 100% right now and

[1:20:43] I know how active you are, but I saw you

[1:20:44] at the 911 ceremony and then you're here

[1:20:47] advocating for the good causes of what

[1:20:49] prior councils have done that was great

[1:20:51] for our town. Thank you for what you do

[1:20:54] and thank you for having the heart of

[1:20:55] Yakypa. You always have and uh planting

[1:20:58] trees is a good thing. Uh, and I

[1:21:01] appreciate you bringing it up. I know we

[1:21:02] normally don't con comment on public

[1:21:04] comment, but this is actually a positive

[1:21:07] thing. So, I just want to give you your

[1:21:09] your due. You you've always had your

[1:21:10] heart in doing the right thing here. So,

[1:21:12] thank you.

[1:21:14] [applause]

[1:21:16] » Thank you, Bob. I'm sorry, sir. Go

[1:21:18] ahead. Absolutely.

[1:21:23] » All right. So, my name is uh Daniel

[1:21:24] Hernandez. I'm off of uh County Line and

[1:21:26] Messa Grande. So, Mr. Mayor, members of

[1:21:29] the council, city manager, staff, first,

[1:21:31] thank you. Governing a city is hard.

[1:21:33] Balancing budgets, state mandates,

[1:21:36] public pressure, and competing visions

[1:21:38] for the future is not a nineto-ive job.

[1:21:40] You show up, you take the heat, and I

[1:21:42] respect that. But respect doesn't mean

[1:21:44] silence. Our 2016 general plan is

[1:21:47] crystal clear. It declares your kao the

[1:21:49] jewel of the empire. It lists

[1:21:51] financially responsibility and

[1:21:53] responsive governance as a cornerstone

[1:21:56] stone. It calls for quality businesses

[1:21:58] that deliver quality jobs and retail. It

[1:22:01] specifically directs the city to

[1:22:03] capitalize on commercial and industrial

[1:22:05] opportunities along our I 10 corridor in

[1:22:08] balance with everything else that we

[1:22:10] value. Yet, here we are. We've watched a

[1:22:13] sales tax measure fail. We've approved

[1:22:15] and then later resigned major freeway

[1:22:17] corridors updates after a tense public

[1:22:19] push back. We've adopted annual goals

[1:22:22] and hope budget workshops. But yet we

[1:22:24] lack a clear multi-year financial

[1:22:26] strategy that ties the general plan

[1:22:28] vision to real numbers and choices. To

[1:22:31] our city manager, I would ask that we

[1:22:33] step up, bring the council to a real

[1:22:35] case, a long-term financial plan that

[1:22:37] shows exactly how we're to fund the

[1:22:39] jewel that we can be. Not just this

[1:22:41] year's deficit, not next year's deficit,

[1:22:43] but a true plan for the next 5, 10

[1:22:45] years. And to our council, I do ask that

[1:22:47] we start looking at that plan and start

[1:22:50] not just reacting to day-to-day, but to

[1:22:52] actually get a financial plan going. My

[1:22:55] wife and I and my daughter, we've been

[1:22:56] in the city for seven plus years, and I

[1:22:58] never speak. I'm just kind of the

[1:23:00] average Joe Schmo that drives to work,

[1:23:02] comes back, um, showed up for the last

[1:23:04] couple meetings, and it's getting for me

[1:23:06] a little scary that money, right? And

[1:23:08] that's what we we always talk about. How

[1:23:09] can we bring money in? I've heard, you

[1:23:11] know, Deputy Mayor Beaver, you bring up

[1:23:12] about well about the White Pack, you

[1:23:14] know, how can we go and fund this? And

[1:23:16] yet, we we have a plan here, you know,

[1:23:18] and I'm asking for this council to to

[1:23:20] start looking and reacting those plans.

[1:23:21] Those are tough decisions. I get it. So,

[1:23:23] my fellow citizens, we need to support

[1:23:24] this council. We need to support our

[1:23:26] city mayor, excuse me, our city mayor

[1:23:28] and our city manager, but we need to

[1:23:29] come together. And right now, we're

[1:23:31] pushing it. I feel we're pushing the the

[1:23:33] can down the road. And there's no clear

[1:23:34] vision, no clear plan how we're getting

[1:23:36] money in this beautiful city. We all

[1:23:38] love it. I want to continue raising my

[1:23:40] family here. I'm looking at retirement

[1:23:41] in the next 20 years maybe. Uh but the

[1:23:44] way it's going, are we gonna be the next

[1:23:45] San Arino? I really hope not. But thank

[1:23:48] you for your time. I appreciate it.

[1:23:50] » Thank you.

[1:23:52] » Next we have Hansen Wong.

[1:24:05] » Good evening, city council members.

[1:24:08] Thank you for uh [clears throat]

[1:24:11] allowing me to come up and speak.

[1:24:15] I live in district one.

[1:24:18] Uh I was a little concerned about one of

[1:24:21] my neighbors. Um she had to put down her

[1:24:25] only horse because of some uh injuries

[1:24:28] to the horse. And she calls Bertekch and

[1:24:33] says, "You know,

[1:24:35] I don't need anymore. was my last horse.

[1:24:38] And um you know it was she paid the

[1:24:42] whole year. It was a month into the year

[1:24:45] and then um they said they couldn't

[1:24:48] refund her the other 11 months that she

[1:24:51] had to pay for the whole year even

[1:24:53] though she wasn't using it. In addition,

[1:24:55] she asked them to remove the container

[1:24:58] and they told her no, she had to keep

[1:25:00] the container until the year was over. I

[1:25:02] mean it just doesn't they are a

[1:25:05] monopoly. They don't have to do what we

[1:25:08] ask of them because there is no other

[1:25:10] choice and I feel like um they should be

[1:25:14] a little more compassionate. It might be

[1:25:16] perfectly legal but again it just

[1:25:19] doesn't look good in my mind. Thank you.

[1:25:23] » Thank you.

[1:25:25] » Address.

[1:25:27] » Can you get the address?

[1:25:32] Dr. Wong, can you give the address that

[1:25:34] you're talking about to our city clerk,

[1:25:35] please?

[1:25:37] » My address or whoever your neighbor is

[1:25:39] next. Yeah, your neighbor.

[1:25:44] » I I don't know her exact address, but I

[1:25:47] can tell you her name. She said it was

[1:25:48] okay. It's Terry Boon.

[1:25:50] » Oh.

[1:25:50] » And she lives right around the uh street

[1:25:53] from me.

[1:25:54] » I have her address. Thank you, sir.

[1:25:55] » I'm sorry.

[1:25:55] » I I have her address.

[1:25:57] » Okay.

[1:25:57] » Thank you.

[1:25:58] » Good.

[1:25:59] Thank you.

[1:26:00] » Sorry, sir. Next, we have Private Beaver

[1:26:03] of the East Valley Young Marines.

[1:26:06] [applause]

[1:26:10] [clears throat]

[1:26:17] » My name is Hadley Beaver and I am a

[1:26:19] private with the East Valley Young

[1:26:21] Marines. I'm here today to talk about

[1:26:23] the importance of committing to a

[1:26:25] drug-free lifestyle.

[1:26:27] Some of the reasons that people start

[1:26:29] taking drugs are because of peer

[1:26:30] pressure, thinking that it would make

[1:26:32] them feel happier or calm, or they are

[1:26:35] curious and want to see what it feels

[1:26:36] like. Well, I am here to tell you that

[1:26:38] it is not cool or safe to do drugs.

[1:26:42] Drugs can do harm to both the body and

[1:26:45] the brain. They change the way you a

[1:26:47] person thinks and makes decisions.

[1:26:51] Another reasons why you should not try

[1:26:54] drugs even if you are curious because it

[1:26:57] could also lead to addiction which could

[1:27:00] make it difficult for someone to stop

[1:27:02] even if they know that the drugs are

[1:27:04] hurting them. Some drugs are

[1:27:08] methamphetamine,

[1:27:10] cocaine, heroin and prescription pills.

[1:27:15] There are also some legal drugs such as

[1:27:17] tobacco, alcohol and marijuana. Just

[1:27:21] because they are legal does not make

[1:27:23] them less dangerous.

[1:27:25] Another reason to be drug-free is

[1:27:26] because of the really bad side effects

[1:27:29] and symptoms. When people try drugs,

[1:27:32] they think it's going to be cool or fun,

[1:27:35] and they don't think about the side

[1:27:37] effects. Some of the symptoms from doing

[1:27:40] drugs are loss of appetite, not

[1:27:42] sleeping, bloodshot eyes, nausea,

[1:27:44] drowsiness, and dry mouth.

[1:27:48] As I mentioned earlier, peer pressure is

[1:27:50] a big reason that people try drugs.

[1:27:53] Being a member of the Young Marines

[1:27:55] makes me want to be a good leader and

[1:27:57] role model. And being a good role model

[1:27:59] and leader takes someone to have

[1:28:02] responsible decisions. So, choose good

[1:28:05] friends who also support your good

[1:28:07] decisions and won't peer pressure you

[1:28:09] into drugs.

[1:28:11] Making sure that you are around good and

[1:28:14] trusted friends is a good way to stay

[1:28:16] drug-free.

[1:28:20] So, I am making sure I do not do drugs

[1:28:22] and committing to a drug-free lifestyle

[1:28:25] so I can be a EMT and help people stay

[1:28:29] healthy.

[1:28:30] The East Valley Young Marines are

[1:28:32] currently recruiting for our next

[1:28:34] recruit class. We are having a parent

[1:28:36] orientation this Saturday, September

[1:28:39] 19th, from 9:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. at

[1:28:42] the Redlands Elks Lodge. Please come and

[1:28:45] hear what opportunities the Young

[1:28:47] Marines have for your young adults.

[1:28:50] That concludes my presentation. Thank

[1:28:52] you for letting me speak. I am Private

[1:28:54] Beaver with the East Valley Young

[1:28:55] Marines. Everybody have a lovely night.

[1:28:58] Seri

[1:29:02] [applause]

[1:29:08] » [applause]

[1:29:08] » Can we can we get a picture with you?

[1:29:13] » Is that all right?

[1:29:13] » Sure.

[1:29:14] » Yeah.

[1:29:15] [clears throat]

[1:29:34] Good job.

[1:29:40] » Great job.

[1:29:50] Excuse

[1:29:56] [applause]

[1:30:18] [clears throat]

[1:30:21] We have no further comments and no

[1:30:23] virtual comments.

[1:30:24] » Okay.

[1:30:28] » Does anybody have a conflict of interest

[1:30:30] in or to disclose on the

[1:30:35] consent agend

[1:30:38] » I'm sorry not on the consent. Now now

[1:30:41] I'm

[1:30:43] your daughter is amazing.

[1:30:46] » Yeah. Anyways, [clears throat] announce

[1:30:49] it. The consent agenda is items one

[1:30:52] through seven. Does anybody have a

[1:30:56] want to remove any of the items off of

[1:30:58] one through seven?

[1:30:59] » I'd like to just um hear something about

[1:31:01] item three before we vote on it, but

[1:31:03] I'll move approval on the remainder.

[1:31:06] » And Mr. Mayor, I'd like uh number seven.

[1:31:09] » Number three and number seven.

[1:31:12] Okay. So, we have number three and

[1:31:14] number seven. We have one, two, four,

[1:31:17] five, six. Do you guys approve?

[1:31:20] » Yeah, that'll be so that'll be my motion

[1:31:23] if you want to second that one then.

[1:31:24] » Yeah. Okay.

[1:31:25] » One through [laughter]

[1:31:27] » Everything minus uh

[1:31:29] » Three and seven.

[1:31:30] » Right. Okay. I got a first.

[1:31:32] » Second.

[1:31:33] » Okay, we got a first and a second. All

[1:31:35] in favor? I. Any opposed?

[1:31:38] All right. Number three.

[1:31:45] » Good evening, Mayor and Council. Item

[1:31:47] number three is regarding a grant of

[1:31:49] easement. Um, this is the location of

[1:31:52] the easement is on city- owned property

[1:31:55] uh directly behind fire station number

[1:31:57] two between the city yard, the

[1:31:59] [clears throat] church, and fire station

[1:32:00] number two. Uh when the city acquired

[1:32:02] the property from the county for the uh

[1:32:05] flood control basin and the cityard

[1:32:07] property, there was an area well there's

[1:32:10] a there the Yukapa Valley Water District

[1:32:12] has some utility facilities in that

[1:32:14] area. So this item is just to clean it

[1:32:16] up and make sure that they have an

[1:32:18] appropriate utility easement on the city

[1:32:20] property for the the their facilities

[1:32:22] that have been there for for many years.

[1:32:25] And it's primarily for a uh

[1:32:29] I'll call it a drainage outlet from

[1:32:30] their well property to the Wilson Creek

[1:32:33] basin.

[1:32:34] » Okay.

[1:32:35] » And this item will will grant a utility

[1:32:37] easement from the city in favor of the

[1:32:39] Yakapa Valley Water District.

[1:32:44] » Okay. So the qu the question I had on

[1:32:47] that is [clears throat]

[1:32:49] as this um drains into the Wilson's

[1:32:52] Creek is this is there any

[1:32:56] Do they have any or vested interest in

[1:32:59] Wilson 3 and helping us get it further

[1:33:01] along? I mean I know like I know it's a

[1:33:03] a runoff for them, but does that tie

[1:33:05] them to our Wilson 3 basin that is still

[1:33:09] yet to be completed?

[1:33:10] » It it um it does tie into the channel

[1:33:15] upstream but not to the basin directly.

[1:33:17] » All right. Okay. I'll move approval on

[1:33:19] that item.

[1:33:20] » Second.

[1:33:20] » All right. We got a first and second.

[1:33:22] All in favor? I I

[1:33:23] » I Any opposed? All right. This item

[1:33:27] number seven.

[1:33:33] » Uh good evening, mayor and council. For

[1:33:35] item seven, uh it's a budgeted item for

[1:33:38] the paramedic squads. Uh when we went

[1:33:40] through the annual procure procurement

[1:33:42] for the budget, uh we weren't ready to

[1:33:44] make a decision on our next generation

[1:33:46] of cardiac monitor and compression

[1:33:48] device. Uh there's really only two

[1:33:49] manufacturers out there. So, we were

[1:33:51] field testing at the time. Uh we've

[1:33:53] selected Striker um and the procurement

[1:33:57] cost is more than uh city manager

[1:34:00] approval. So it's coming to you for

[1:34:01] purchase order approval with our ex

[1:34:03] existing 2627 budget.

[1:34:07] » All right. Thank you. And I had one

[1:34:09] question and I should have asked this

[1:34:10] when we talked about the squads

[1:34:12] initially, but where are we going to

[1:34:14] park these two trucks?

[1:34:15] » Station 553.

[1:34:17] » We have room for them.

[1:34:18] » We have room for the front line engine,

[1:34:20] reserve engine, and the squad. Yes.

[1:34:22] » Okay. All right. Thank you, sir.

[1:34:24] » We don't have any other room, but yeah,

[1:34:25] we'll have room for them.

[1:34:27] » So, we're now full.

[1:34:28] » We're We're tapped. Yes.

[1:34:30] » And you said that was for just one of

[1:34:31] the squads.

[1:34:32] » That's technically both squads would fit

[1:34:35] there. So, we're probably going to have

[1:34:36] to do that. I don't like backing

[1:34:37] equipment in. It's just going to lead to

[1:34:38] a backing.

[1:34:39] » Sure.

[1:34:39] » Accident, but uh for right now, we can

[1:34:41] fit everything. Yeah.

[1:34:43] » Okay.

[1:34:45] » Thank you.

[1:34:46] » I'm good.

[1:34:48] » I'm good.

[1:34:48] » You're good.

[1:34:51] Yeah, I'll move it.

[1:34:52] » Okay, I'll second it.

[1:34:52] » We got a first and a second. All in

[1:34:54] favor?

[1:34:55] » I. Any opposed?

[1:34:58] » Okay.

[1:35:09] Now, the discussions item number eight,

[1:35:11] request proposal of the city Kiple

[1:35:13] Performing Arts Center.

[1:35:14] » Good evening, mayor and members of the

[1:35:16] city council. The item before you

[1:35:17] tonight is the request for proposals for

[1:35:19] the operation of the UKIPA Performing

[1:35:21] Arts Center. At the August 24th city

[1:35:24] council meeting, council directed staff

[1:35:26] to return with an RFP for council's

[1:35:28] review. The purpose of the RFP is to

[1:35:31] solicit proposals from qualified

[1:35:33] companies interested in operating the

[1:35:35] YPAC and to establish the city's

[1:35:37] expectation for the facility's future

[1:35:40] operation. Tonight's action does not

[1:35:42] award a contract or commit the city to a

[1:35:44] particular operator. It provides the

[1:35:46] council with an opportunity to review

[1:35:48] the proposed RFP, recommend any

[1:35:51] revisions, and provide direction to

[1:35:54] staff regarding the next steps in this

[1:35:56] [clears throat] process. There is no

[1:35:58] fiscal impact associated with tonight's

[1:36:00] recommendation.

[1:36:02] Staff recommends that city council

[1:36:04] review the request for proposals and

[1:36:06] provide further direction. This

[1:36:08] concludes my report and I'm happy to

[1:36:09] answer any questions you may have at

[1:36:11] this time.

[1:36:12] » All right. Thank you. Any public

[1:36:14] comment?

[1:36:16] No comments on this item.

[1:36:17] » All right, Bob,

[1:36:20] » Justin,

[1:36:21] » I like it as written.

[1:36:25] » The only question I have is uh existing

[1:36:29] city rentals. Uh how many do we have,

[1:36:32] Megan, on the books now for future? Do

[1:36:34] you know offhand?

[1:36:36] » I do not have that number at this time,

[1:36:37] but I can get that and um supply that to

[1:36:39] the city manager.

[1:36:41] » Okay. Uh and of course uh whoever would

[1:36:44] get the bid, they would be provided with

[1:36:46] that information.

[1:36:48] » Yes. Uh prior to today's meeting, we did

[1:36:50] have 74 booked total. Um but we have

[1:36:53] received over a dozen cancellations.

[1:36:56] » Okay. How far out does that go into next

[1:36:59] year?

[1:37:00] » It goes actually into 2028.

[1:37:01] » Really? Okay. All right. Thank you.

[1:37:04] » Can we make that public? I mean toward

[1:37:06] Oh, we're going to make that to where

[1:37:07] the the people that are bidden on this

[1:37:09] can see all that. Yes, we'll have the

[1:37:11] dates in there that it's already

[1:37:12] reserved.

[1:37:13] » Okay, perfect.

[1:37:14] » So, do I have a motion?

[1:37:17] » I'll move to

[1:37:19] move as requested or as presented.

[1:37:21] » I'll second.

[1:37:22] » All right, we got a first and a second.

[1:37:24] All in favor?

[1:37:25] » I.

[1:37:25] » Any opposed?

[1:37:27] Okay.

[1:37:29] Item number nine, the general fund loans

[1:37:32] update capital improvement program.

[1:37:38] Good evening again, mayor, deputy mayor,

[1:37:40] and city council. This item is an

[1:37:42] update, as you mentioned, to the general

[1:37:44] fund loans and uh allocations to CIP

[1:37:47] projects over the years. Over the last

[1:37:50] 30 years, the city's general fund has

[1:37:52] provided funding to construct various

[1:37:54] projects. These projects include, you

[1:37:56] know, public facility projects, park uh

[1:37:59] projects, drainage projects, and also

[1:38:01] road and intersection widening projects.

[1:38:04] uh fund funding from the general plan

[1:38:06] has been provided in in either either in

[1:38:09] the form of a loan to the city's

[1:38:11] development impact fee program or it's

[1:38:13] been a one-time capital funding

[1:38:15] contribution to a specific project. Uh

[1:38:19] attached to your report and also on the

[1:38:22] screen before you is a list that uh

[1:38:26] identifies many of those major projects

[1:38:28] that the general fund has provided

[1:38:30] funding for over the last 29 30 years.

[1:38:33] Uh the list is in chronological order

[1:38:35] with the with the city council in 1997

[1:38:39] approving a loan of almost $3 million uh

[1:38:42] from the general fund to construct the

[1:38:44] Ukipa Community Park.

[1:38:48] The the

[1:38:50] column outlined in green um the this is

[1:38:54] this shows the funding that was loaned

[1:38:55] from the general fund to those specific

[1:38:58] projects. Uh the total amount loaned is

[1:39:00] about 35.5 million as you can see on the

[1:39:03] bottom.

[1:39:05] Uh this the column that's outlined in

[1:39:08] purple is uh funding that has been

[1:39:10] provided from the general fund in the

[1:39:13] form I'm sorry it's not a a loan but as

[1:39:17] a onetime contribution without having to

[1:39:19] be uh paid back.

[1:39:25] So for certain projects, both a loan and

[1:39:28] a one-time funding contribution uh has

[1:39:30] been approved by the city council and

[1:39:33] the formal approval of either the loans

[1:39:36] or the onetime funding contribution has

[1:39:38] occurred as part of the annual uh budget

[1:39:40] adoption process or when the the capital

[1:39:42] improvement program budget is approved.

[1:39:44] And in certain cases, that loan was

[1:39:46] approved um as part of the city council

[1:39:49] action. For example, when the

[1:39:51] construction contract for that specific

[1:39:54] project was awarded by the city council,

[1:39:57] if the funding was uh provided as a

[1:39:59] loan, the intent has always been uh to

[1:40:03] reimburse the general fund with revenue

[1:40:05] that is collected through the city's

[1:40:06] development impact uh program fees. Um

[1:40:09] and as you know, that funding is

[1:40:11] collected from developers as development

[1:40:13] occurs. And the funding is collected for

[1:40:16] the different categories in the DIP

[1:40:18] program whether it's traffic, drainage,

[1:40:20] parks, public facil facilities or uh

[1:40:24] fire.

[1:40:25] And over the years um a nominal amount

[1:40:28] has been repaid to the general fund. Um

[1:40:30] however uh you know back in uh 2019 the

[1:40:35] city's independent uh auditing firm um

[1:40:38] they did uh u make a note that the

[1:40:41] balance owed to the general fund was

[1:40:44] about 22 million. Again that was back in

[1:40:46] 2019. Uh the next year in 2020, the city

[1:40:49] council adopted a resolution where the

[1:40:51] city council approved a uh interf loan

[1:40:54] agreement that identified the terms um

[1:40:58] and it memorialized the terms to repay

[1:41:00] the general fund. Um, a couple points in

[1:41:04] that agreement were that um, at the time

[1:41:07] as part of that agreement, 50% of the

[1:41:10] diff revenue collected was to be used to

[1:41:13] repay the general fund and the remaining

[1:41:15] 50% could be used for uh, projects.

[1:41:20] Um a year later in 2021, uh the city

[1:41:23] council um adopted a uh a revised adopt

[1:41:29] a resolution to make changes to that to

[1:41:32] that agreement and that was in 2021. A

[1:41:34] couple of the changes uh that were

[1:41:36] included and I'll backtrack. The the

[1:41:38] original agreement in 2020 also included

[1:41:40] u a term of 10 years which meant that

[1:41:44] for a for the 10-year period 50% of the

[1:41:46] revenue would be used to repay the loan

[1:41:50] and after the 10-year period whatever

[1:41:52] balance was remaining would essentially

[1:41:54] be forgiven by the by the general fund.

[1:41:57] In 2021 when the city council adopted

[1:41:59] the revised uh terms or the revised

[1:42:02] agreement um they that agreement

[1:42:05] included a couple changes. One is that

[1:42:07] for the public facilities fund which is

[1:42:10] where the fire or the uh yeah fire

[1:42:12] station 3, the police station and the

[1:42:14] white pack loans are from or are

[1:42:17] located. Uh that the it increased the

[1:42:21] amount to be repaid to the general fund

[1:42:23] from the annual fees from 50% to 100%.

[1:42:26] And the intent there was to to increase

[1:42:29] the pace of repaying the general loan

[1:42:30] for the public facilities uh fund. Uh

[1:42:33] that in 2022 21 that uh revised

[1:42:37] agreement also extended the terms of the

[1:42:39] repayment from 10 years to 30 years. So

[1:42:41] now would be a 30-year period and

[1:42:43] similar to the original agreement after

[1:42:46] those 30 years whatever balance would be

[1:42:47] remaining would be essentially forgiven

[1:42:50] um by the general fund. And then it also

[1:42:52] included a um a clause in there that for

[1:42:55] any uh annual financial reporting

[1:42:57] requirements, the general fund could

[1:42:59] make another loan to any fund with a

[1:43:01] negative cash balance um at the end of

[1:43:05] that fiscal year on June 30th. Um and

[1:43:08] you know, just as a note, as of June

[1:43:10] 30th of 2025, um the the remaining

[1:43:14] balance is about 12.2 million according

[1:43:17] to the most recent financials. And

[1:43:19] that's as of June 30th of 2025. So 2019

[1:43:24] the balance remaining was about 22

[1:43:26] million. 6 years later the balance uh

[1:43:30] was reduced to about 12.2 million. Again

[1:43:34] that was at the end of 2025.

[1:43:36] So that was

[1:43:39] 14 15 months ago.

[1:43:42] And that concludes my report and staff

[1:43:44] is available for questions.

[1:43:46] » All right. Do we have public comment on

[1:43:48] this? No comments on this item.

[1:43:50] » Okay. Start John.

[1:43:54] » Thank you. Thank you, mayor. U for me.

[1:43:56] Do we have anything on the horizon that

[1:43:58] we see coming that might uh help lower

[1:44:00] that remainder? I mean, we've done Well,

[1:44:02] it's gotten down to 12, but do we

[1:44:04] foresee anything in the near future or

[1:44:05] is it going to be a a few more years?

[1:44:08] You think?

[1:44:08] » I think it's going to be a few more

[1:44:10] years. You know, it it it depends on the

[1:44:13] amount of development activity. um that

[1:44:16] over the last couple years with a couple

[1:44:18] of the uh larger projects that balance

[1:44:20] has gone down. So you it depends on the

[1:44:23] the development activity but uh having

[1:44:25] 50% of the traffic, drainage,

[1:44:29] fire and park um revenue going to repay

[1:44:33] the loan and 100% of the public

[1:44:35] facilities. That is it a good sign. I

[1:44:37] will mention that the traffic fund is

[1:44:40] the uh as of 2023 I believe it it had

[1:44:43] completely repaid back its loan from the

[1:44:46] general fund. So the ones that are

[1:44:47] remaining are the public facilities,

[1:44:49] parks, drainage and fire.

[1:44:54] » Thank you. And I don't remember where it

[1:44:56] said in here, but there was a date that

[1:44:58] if we don't have it paid back that we

[1:45:00] have to forgive it. What was that date

[1:45:01] that year? It was 30 years after 2021,

[1:45:03] but I I believe it was uh 2049 is

[1:45:06] » Okay.

[1:45:07] » Yeah.

[1:45:07] » All right. Thank you, sir. That's it for

[1:45:10] me.

[1:45:10] » Thank you, Judy.

[1:45:12] » No,

[1:45:13] » Bob.

[1:45:14] » Thank you, Mayor.

[1:45:16] » Well, I I I suffice it to say, I if we

[1:45:19] hadn't uh built this beautiful facility,

[1:45:21] we'd still be over in the portables, I

[1:45:22] would assume, meaning. And uh some

[1:45:25] investments you have to make. Um and

[1:45:28] this was predicated if I remember uh

[1:45:30] prior administrations on the development

[1:45:33] boom hitting uh especially specific

[1:45:36] areas that are not happening right now.

[1:45:38] So uh just keep working at it for me. Uh

[1:45:41] some was uncontrollable. Uh but if we

[1:45:44] sit in this beautiful building right now

[1:45:46] uh we wouldn't have that had we not

[1:45:48] invested in some of these things. So uh

[1:45:50] just keep keep working hard. I'm hoping

[1:45:52] there's some development eventually uh

[1:45:54] managed growth though of course um

[1:45:56] depending on where we're going to put

[1:45:57] it. We've tried a couple things already

[1:45:59] but the community has let us know how

[1:46:01] they feel about that. So you have to

[1:46:03] look at the future of how you're going

[1:46:04] to create some revenue too. Um and I

[1:46:06] just want to be careful for any u you

[1:46:08] know uh a lot of this was predicated if

[1:46:10] I remember prior administrations about

[1:46:13] diff fees and make sure they're paid and

[1:46:15] that if anybody's in the rears they need

[1:46:17] to square it up. So, um, you know,

[1:46:20] that's just just part of running the

[1:46:21] city. So, uh, thank you for your report.

[1:46:23] I know it wasn't pleasant to to say this

[1:46:25] all this, uh, when you look at them

[1:46:27] numbers, you go, "Oh my gosh, but, uh,

[1:46:30] it is what it is, right?" Thank you.

[1:46:34] » Thanks, Bob.

[1:46:35] » Thank you,

[1:46:36] » Deputy M.

[1:46:37] » So, uh, Council Thorp asked the

[1:46:40] question, re reask it to the city

[1:46:43] manager. um you know that the priority

[1:46:46] has to be

[1:46:48] responsible controlled development. Um

[1:46:51] so we got to continue working on that. I

[1:46:52] know you have done good work already

[1:46:54] getting us out there um going to those

[1:46:56] um conferences out of state that help

[1:46:59] find investors to bring restaurants and

[1:47:01] other places that'll help us um in more

[1:47:03] ways than just development development

[1:47:05] impact fees but truly our measure S

[1:47:06] funding as well. So, um, do you know of

[1:47:09] any development on the horizon that we

[1:47:12] can hope to see this down? Maybe do a

[1:47:14] singledigit million dollar amount before

[1:47:17] I'm off this council.

[1:47:17] » It's a great uh question. W Mayor,

[1:47:19] mayor, council. Good evening. Um, Peter

[1:47:22] Khan, he's heading down the ICS right

[1:47:24] after this. He has to go to San Diego

[1:47:25] tomorrow. He'll be out there, you know,

[1:47:28] walking around those big floors down

[1:47:29] there trying to seek development. Um,

[1:47:31] we're working on several out on the out

[1:47:34] on the freeway area. Um we haven't

[1:47:36] gotten in too many bites but but we are

[1:47:38] looking at different uses. We did at in

[1:47:40] Las Vegas talk to several developers

[1:47:42] about some larger box uh but single

[1:47:45] scale development not a massive

[1:47:47] commercial. Um we haven't seen anything

[1:47:49] yet. We are working with several

[1:47:50] developers on different areas interior

[1:47:52] of the city. We call infield

[1:47:54] development. Um but we are we're going

[1:47:56] to keep plugging away and we are now in

[1:47:58] the process of doing interviews for the

[1:48:00] economic development analyst. So that

[1:48:02] should help alleviate uh Peter's uh

[1:48:04] limited staff now. So uh we're we're

[1:48:07] doing all we can to bring in new

[1:48:08] development where we can.

[1:48:10] » So sorry to cut you off. So

[1:48:13] » Following um following the council

[1:48:16] voting to uh cancel the election um for

[1:48:19] the uh freeway corridor and rescending

[1:48:23] the um specific plan. We talked about

[1:48:28] truly trying to find a way forward,

[1:48:29] getting that like a task force almost

[1:48:31] together or having some a committee or

[1:48:33] something where we can try to get the um

[1:48:36] utilities all in one room, members of

[1:48:38] this community, members of the council

[1:48:40] to truly talk about how we're going to

[1:48:42] find that pathway forward on the freeway

[1:48:45] without the help of an outside warehouse

[1:48:48] bringing that those utilities in. Um I

[1:48:50] think it's kind of prudent given this um

[1:48:53] $12.2 $2 million uh loan amount that we

[1:48:56] still owe that we you know get back to

[1:48:59] work on that um and try to get that

[1:49:01] moving so we can identify how that's

[1:49:03] going to happen because I think we can

[1:49:04] talk a lot about what can go up by the

[1:49:06] freeway but I have a feeling that you

[1:49:08] can go and get all the investors you

[1:49:10] want for different types of small

[1:49:12] development once they realize there's no

[1:49:13] power no water over there they're not

[1:49:15] going to be able to build that that

[1:49:16] doesn't make it doesn't pencil right a

[1:49:18] term I've learned since I' been on the

[1:49:19] council so we're going to have to still

[1:49:21] figure out that obstacle of getting

[1:49:23] electricity and water to that side of

[1:49:26] town so we can build so we can allow for

[1:49:28] building to happen down there.

[1:49:30] » That's a that's a great question. So we

[1:49:32] are working in that regard. One of the

[1:49:33] reasons we went to DC is to see if we

[1:49:35] could get some infrastructure money. So

[1:49:37] that's a one way we work closely with

[1:49:38] the UK water district as well. I've

[1:49:40] talked to Joe over there. He's wants to

[1:49:43] help us. We want to work with all the

[1:49:44] water districts in the area and we want

[1:49:46] to facilitate development where we can

[1:49:48] um and sustainable development, not just

[1:49:50] mass commercial scale. Sure. And you

[1:49:52] know, we do need to get back. I I've

[1:49:54] talked to Peter about getting back to

[1:49:55] putting that together. I've talked to

[1:49:56] the mayor. We'll be doing that sometime

[1:49:58] in November, late November, we'd start

[1:50:00] on that process. Um, and start moving

[1:50:02] forward on that, getting us together

[1:50:04] strategically to look at that area. And

[1:50:06] again, we're not going to bring any

[1:50:07] pricey consultant. I can do it. Peter

[1:50:10] can do. We can put together the plan

[1:50:12] oursel. We have a ton of those plans. We

[1:50:14] can just hybrid it. Whatever the council

[1:50:16] and the community wants, we can pop them

[1:50:18] together. We have a GIS department. We

[1:50:20] could put our own maps together and

[1:50:21] exhibits and bring something forward. We

[1:50:23] don't have to pay, you know, a bunch of

[1:50:25] outside folks to come in and do that. We

[1:50:26] have plenty of uh models we can, you

[1:50:28] know, cut and paste from and build on a

[1:50:30] new plant.

[1:50:31] » Perfect. Thank you.

[1:50:33] » All right. Well, thank you. I think this

[1:50:35] will receive and file.

[1:50:38] » Thank you very much. All right.

[1:50:42] Award the contract for the street re

[1:50:44] rehabilitation

[1:50:46] [clears throat] project.

[1:50:49] Thank you and good evening, mayor and

[1:50:51] members of council. On July 27th, uh

[1:50:54] council adopted our fiscal year 2627

[1:50:57] pavement management program, uh also

[1:51:00] known as our PMP. Uh that adopted PMP

[1:51:03] included the list of streets proposed to

[1:51:05] be repaved this fiscal year. Upon

[1:51:07] adoption of the PMP, uh staff began

[1:51:10] working and advertised our first

[1:51:13] program, which was the street

[1:51:14] rehabilitation project within that PMP

[1:51:18] uh with the prioritized street segments.

[1:51:20] Uh the list of streets that are proposed

[1:51:23] with the project are attached with the

[1:51:24] agenda report. I've also got this first

[1:51:26] slide up here to kind of uh visually

[1:51:28] illustrate which streets those are in

[1:51:31] green on this slide here before shows

[1:51:33] you those locations of those streets uh

[1:51:35] proposed with this contract this

[1:51:38] project. Um the blue streets are also

[1:51:40] shown on there which are uh with the

[1:51:43] adopted PMP were proposed for

[1:51:45] resurfacing which we're planning to

[1:51:47] complete in the spring after we complete

[1:51:49] the uh rehab project here for repaving

[1:51:52] use any remaining budget um toward that

[1:51:54] and some of the other sub programs. Uh

[1:51:57] on August 27th um after we advertised

[1:52:01] the project, we received six bids for

[1:52:03] that project and tonight we are

[1:52:05] recommending award of the construction

[1:52:07] contract to the lowest responsible

[1:52:08] bidder All-American Asphalt.

[1:52:11] Uh if approved, staff can begin

[1:52:13] coordinating uh with All-American

[1:52:15] Asphalt to begin the work as soon as

[1:52:17] possible. Uh due to the competitive

[1:52:20] favorable bid prices that we received

[1:52:22] with this year's program, uh we have

[1:52:24] sufficient funding to accommodate what

[1:52:26] we have proposed uh for the contract

[1:52:28] contingency in the amount of $622,000.

[1:52:32] Um this additional funding will allow us

[1:52:34] to uh get this year's list of streets

[1:52:37] completed uh as shown here before you um

[1:52:40] and also add additional streets to be

[1:52:42] repaved. Um on this next slide here,

[1:52:44] which was also shown when the uh PMP was

[1:52:47] adopted in July, um you see an exhibit

[1:52:49] of of the streets we were just looking

[1:52:51] at, as well as the future two years of

[1:52:54] streets that were planned to occur next

[1:52:56] year and the following year. um as staff

[1:52:59] identifies um you know which streets can

[1:53:01] be incorporated into this year, we'll be

[1:53:03] looking at trying to pull some of those

[1:53:05] future year streets into this year, get

[1:53:07] those done, knock those out a year in

[1:53:09] advance and try to get a jump on our

[1:53:10] next year's program. Um I did want to

[1:53:12] highlight uh one of the segments that is

[1:53:15] included with this contract. Um you can

[1:53:17] you can kind of see here is uh one of

[1:53:19] the parking lots for one of our parks

[1:53:21] which is at Seventh Street Park. um

[1:53:25] shown a little bit better on this slide

[1:53:26] here. Um down here on Seventh Street um

[1:53:30] closer to the basketball uh tot lot and

[1:53:32] and pickle ball courts. So we've seen an

[1:53:35] increase in the focus on the pavement

[1:53:36] condition of our streets. And so as we

[1:53:39] consider some options for moving streets

[1:53:41] into that with that additional

[1:53:43] contingency we're proposing, if council

[1:53:45] wishes, we can uh also potentially shift

[1:53:48] approximately 30,000 that was identified

[1:53:51] for that seventh street parking lot

[1:53:52] rehab and perhaps reallocate that toward

[1:53:55] a street um per council's direction on

[1:53:57] that. Uh if approved, uh propo the

[1:54:01] proposed contract contingency with this

[1:54:03] construction budget uh would allow staff

[1:54:05] to administratively add um several of

[1:54:08] these future street segments um into

[1:54:10] this year's project and um just just get

[1:54:12] ahead of some of our future streets that

[1:54:14] we were looking at um doing in the

[1:54:16] future years. Um this last slide here

[1:54:20] just shows the recommendations proposed

[1:54:22] with this report. uh included at the

[1:54:24] bottom here of this slide is just a a

[1:54:26] table format to kind of show the

[1:54:28] proposed budget a little differently

[1:54:29] than what the agenda report shows with

[1:54:31] that uh construction contract there,

[1:54:34] proposed contingency and the line item

[1:54:35] for uh managing the project to do the

[1:54:38] testing and inspection that goes along

[1:54:40] with that for a total construction

[1:54:42] budget. Um just over $3.3 million there.

[1:54:45] And I'll step aside for a moment and

[1:54:47] give the floor to Fine to add a few

[1:54:49] other comments here before I close

[1:54:51] things out.

[1:54:54] Thank you, Landon. Um, I'd just like to

[1:54:56] add that um, you know, that we have

[1:54:58] heard the community's concerns regarding

[1:54:59] the streets, the condition of city

[1:55:02] streets, and, you know, we have shared

[1:55:05] with the public and the city council in

[1:55:06] the past that the city's uh, PCI, the

[1:55:09] pavement condition index is below the

[1:55:11] national average. So average, so as

[1:55:13] Landon mentioned, you know, with the

[1:55:15] favorable bid prices, the proposed

[1:55:17] contingency amount of 622,000,

[1:55:19] then using the money from the Seventh

[1:55:22] Street parking lot, and also potentially

[1:55:24] um using some

[1:55:27] savings from frozen staff positions, uh

[1:55:30] you know, an additional 270,000 could be

[1:55:33] used to repair more streets this year

[1:55:34] than are slated to be done. Um, one of

[1:55:37] the I like to go back to the second

[1:55:40] slide that Landon mentioned. The streets

[1:55:42] identified in yellow are those that were

[1:55:44] identified to be done next year and then

[1:55:47] the following year. So, so, uh, with

[1:55:50] this additional funding, it allows us to

[1:55:52] pull some of those streets in yellow to

[1:55:55] the current year, hopefully bringing up

[1:55:57] our PCI over the next few years. Um, you

[1:56:00] know, and I would just like to note one

[1:56:02] thing that we focused on when we

[1:56:04] presented the draft pavement management

[1:56:05] program to city council was that in

[1:56:08] order to bring the city's PCI to the

[1:56:10] national average, uh, we are estimating

[1:56:12] an annual budget of about 7.5 million

[1:56:15] per year with the changes that are being

[1:56:17] proposed here. You know, the the annual

[1:56:20] budget that's being proposed is about

[1:56:21] 4.8 million. So, just just for time for

[1:56:24] context, that's where we're at. Um, so

[1:56:27] that concludes our report and be happy

[1:56:29] to answer any questions.

[1:56:30] » All right. Well, thank you. Any public

[1:56:33] comment?

[1:56:34] » No comments on this item.

[1:56:36] » All right.

[1:56:37] » Judy, you want to start us off?

[1:56:38] » Yes. Um, I am in favor of not doing the

[1:56:42] parking lot and with the extra money

[1:56:44] that you talked about, the frozen

[1:56:46] position that that money all goes

[1:56:49] strictly for streets. That's what we

[1:56:51] need to concentrate on is our streets.

[1:56:55] All right,

[1:56:57] John.

[1:56:59] » Yes. Um,

[1:57:01] we've probably talked about this

[1:57:03] recently, but just just to revisit it,

[1:57:05] is there any other revenue streams like

[1:57:07] grants or anything that we can go after

[1:57:08] to help

[1:57:10] » Help uh fund additional

[1:57:12] » Mayor council? I can answer that. We are

[1:57:13] looking at TIFFA. We went to DC. So we

[1:57:16] did look at we costed it out with the

[1:57:18] finance department in public works and

[1:57:20] we are looking at putting an item in

[1:57:21] bringing it forward maybe 30 30 to$40

[1:57:25] million in uh lowcost loans and then Har

[1:57:28] discovered because half of the city is

[1:57:30] semi-ural we might get half off on the

[1:57:32] interest rate because they have a

[1:57:34] special rate for rural communities

[1:57:36] because as you all know half twothirds

[1:57:38] of the city is rural so residential we

[1:57:40] might be able to get a deal on the roads

[1:57:42] so we might get a lower interest rate

[1:57:44] and a regular you know market rate

[1:57:46] interest rate a little bit but below

[1:57:47] market um for the the the residential

[1:57:50] areas and commercial and more intense

[1:57:52] areas. So we are looking at that and

[1:57:54] bringing an item to you for

[1:57:55] consideration.

[1:57:56] » Do we know when that we might see that

[1:57:59] » Uh the next couple weeks or months we're

[1:58:01] looking at putting something on and

[1:58:02] we've reached out to the agencies and

[1:58:04] then bring something to you guys. And

[1:58:06] then if you're reaching out when you

[1:58:07] said you talked to some folks back east

[1:58:10] um

[1:58:12] applying for whatever that was that you

[1:58:14] were talking about what's the turnaround

[1:58:15] time for them to tell us

[1:58:18] » I think it's a few months if we if

[1:58:19] they'll it's pretty it's faster than a

[1:58:21] grant application because we're taking

[1:58:23] out a low low interest loan from the

[1:58:25] federal government. So the other

[1:58:26] agencies in I where uh uh they call it's

[1:58:30] a different type of loan program but the

[1:58:31] water agency you have a water agency has

[1:58:34] taken out these type of loans for

[1:58:35] infrastructure and this is similar. We

[1:58:38] just got to make sure we can identify a

[1:58:40] a revenue source to pay it back. That's

[1:58:42] the key.

[1:58:44] » All right.

[1:58:47] We can have a bake sale [laughter]

[1:58:50] and then I just want to add something

[1:58:52] else. We had a recent vacancy. So, as

[1:58:55] for me and the staff mentioned, I froze

[1:58:57] that position immediately and we're

[1:58:59] turning it into the for roads.

[1:59:01] » So, we're making things more efficient,

[1:59:03] too.

[1:59:03] » So, I' I've said it before when when I

[1:59:06] people ask me about our roads and

[1:59:08] they're furious about the conditions.

[1:59:11] Um, I usually I usually turn it into a

[1:59:13] question to, okay,

[1:59:15] how much should we spend? What is that

[1:59:17] dollar amount? And

[1:59:20] generally speaking, they're they're

[1:59:21] telling me a number that is under a

[1:59:23] million dollars. Well, at least at least

[1:59:24] $500,000 a year. I'm like, well, would

[1:59:27] you be surprised to learn that we're

[1:59:28] spending almost $4 million a year?

[1:59:30] They're like, oh, never mind. Don't

[1:59:31] spend more. I think that is something we

[1:59:33] need to make sure people are aware that

[1:59:34] we are spending millions of dollars

[1:59:36] every year on road maintenance. Um,

[1:59:39] where do we where do we move that on the

[1:59:42] scale? Do we spend more? And if we do,

[1:59:44] what what else are we cutting? Um, I

[1:59:46] think this is something certainly worth

[1:59:48] highlighting. um you've done great work

[1:59:50] in identifying ways to strate or

[1:59:53] creatively fund this. Thank you for

[1:59:55] hearing um

[1:59:57] the uh the cries of of the people who

[2:00:00] live here and are tired of driving on

[2:00:01] the roads um and thanks for getting

[2:00:03] creative. Um, we just got to make sure

[2:00:05] that when we're doing it, the last time

[2:00:07] the city tried to highlight the good

[2:00:09] work that they were doing and and

[2:00:11] maintaining our roads and putting, you

[2:00:12] know, uh, seals, sorry seals and

[2:00:15] repaving, um, we were, the city kind of

[2:00:18] got attacked and beat up a little bit on

[2:00:20] social media that we were looking for

[2:00:22] like pats on the back for the work we're

[2:00:23] doing. Couldn't be further from the

[2:00:25] truth. I'm I still want to advertise

[2:00:26] this. I want people to know what we're

[2:00:27] doing, not because I want I don't think

[2:00:28] the city needs accolades. The city needs

[2:00:30] to be transparent and make sure that

[2:00:32] people are seeing what we're doing. Um,

[2:00:33] it needs, you know, we have two over 200

[2:00:35] miles of roadway. It's easy for people

[2:00:38] not to see our crews out there or our

[2:00:40] contractor crews out there doing the

[2:00:41] work and they need to see it. I think we

[2:00:43] need to make sure that they're aware

[2:00:44] that they're out there. They're doing

[2:00:45] work. It's just we have a lot of roads

[2:00:47] that and a lot of which when we did that

[2:00:48] field trip, I don't know what it was. We

[2:00:50] went out and started looking at roads. I

[2:00:52] think it was raining that day, too.

[2:00:53] » It was.

[2:00:53] » We went out and looked at the roads and

[2:00:54] we were we were educated as a council

[2:00:56] that a lot of the roads there were the

[2:00:58] same pavement that the county put down

[2:01:00] pre-incorporation. So, we inherited

[2:01:02] roads from the county before we ever

[2:01:04] even became a city um that we're still

[2:01:05] dealing with. So, um I I'm looking

[2:01:08] forward to uh some of our transparency

[2:01:10] in the next couple weeks and and and

[2:01:11] advertising. Again, not for accolades,

[2:01:14] just so people are aware, this is what

[2:01:15] we're doing with your money. You're

[2:01:16] you're your tax dollars at work. Here's

[2:01:17] what we're doing. Um a lot of I see a

[2:01:19] lot of success with other cities that do

[2:01:21] um campaigns like that. Your tax dollars

[2:01:23] at work. Maybe we need to follow suit

[2:01:25] without spending money. I don't want to

[2:01:26] spend money on signs and stuff, but if

[2:01:28] we can put it out there, this is, you

[2:01:30] know, $3.3 million of your money that

[2:01:33] we're putting back into the roads. So,

[2:01:35] thank you.

[2:01:37] » Thank you, Bob.

[2:01:38] » Thank you, Mayor. Um, I just want to

[2:01:40] make sure I understood when we talked

[2:01:41] about the TIFF money with the federal

[2:01:43] authorities, they said we were not

[2:01:45] considered any rural. We were Do I have

[2:01:48] that right? I I thought I heard that

[2:01:49] from them, Sean, maybe.

[2:01:50] » That's correct. Uh, Councilman Miller,

[2:01:52] but we we did look on their web page and

[2:01:54] then we followed up with them. we might

[2:01:56] be able to qualify because it's the way

[2:01:58] our land uses are laid out and there are

[2:02:00] some disadvantage areas that we can

[2:02:02] probably apply for. We're looking to it

[2:02:04] but uh we don't have a definitive answer

[2:02:06] yet but we are looking as a possibility

[2:02:08] of paying a lesser interest rate

[2:02:10] » And I just would caution the council if

[2:02:13] we go down the road of loans and you

[2:02:15] know we just had a presentation for

[2:02:17] firming on money that we've already

[2:02:18] spent for facilities. Let's just be

[2:02:21] careful going down that road of loans

[2:02:22] and chasing loans. I think we have to

[2:02:24] live within our means. We have to

[2:02:26] balance our budget. We have to select

[2:02:28] priorities where they are. Streets has

[2:02:30] definitely been a an issue that's come

[2:02:32] up uh for several months now. No doubt

[2:02:35] it's needed, but we have other

[2:02:37] priorities too. So, let's be careful. I

[2:02:39] would caution the council, of course,

[2:02:40] your decision, but uh about chasing

[2:02:43] loans a little bit. That makes me a

[2:02:45] little leerary. I'll be honest with you.

[2:02:47] Um just from my experience.

[2:02:50] » Thank you. Now, are we getting with the

[2:02:52] other uh utility companies and stuff

[2:02:54] making sure that these roads are they

[2:02:56] don't have nothing to do with them after

[2:02:58] we get them paved because that's our I

[2:03:00] mean, you look at 12th Art Avenue E by

[2:03:02] 12th and we paved that not too long ago

[2:03:05] and and Western Heights, which I sit on

[2:03:08] the board. We went in there and dug it

[2:03:10] all up, you know, and but that's why I

[2:03:13] was wanting a moratorum that we have a

[2:03:15] five-year plan on anybody that touches

[2:03:18] our streets within five years after we

[2:03:21] paved it, they have to pave the whole

[2:03:22] thing again. So, correct, that is in

[2:03:26] place. The mortorium has been in place

[2:03:27] for many years. We meet monthly on that

[2:03:29] with the utility agencies. We give them

[2:03:31] as much information as early as

[2:03:32] possible. So, we do coordinate very

[2:03:34] closely and we'll also do that with

[2:03:36] those streets. We're hoping to pull in

[2:03:37] from the future years. Um, that will be

[2:03:40] something we look at carefully and

[2:03:41] selecting those streets, trying to

[2:03:43] coordinate as best we can with utility

[2:03:44] agents to try to prevent that from

[2:03:47] happening. I think we have a sewer line

[2:03:48] improvement for development that's going

[2:03:50] on Carter. So, that's probably not a

[2:03:51] good candidate as one example. So,

[2:03:53] wherever we can, we try to avoid

[2:03:55] repaving those streets where we the

[2:03:57] utility agencies have let us know they

[2:03:58] have planned or even maintenance work to

[2:04:01] try to avoid that. In the cases that

[2:04:02] it's unavoidable, that moratorum does

[2:04:04] take effect and we do everything we can

[2:04:06] to enforce that consistently across the

[2:04:08] board. So we do carefully consider that.

[2:04:11] » Is that coming to agenda here pretty

[2:04:12] soon to

[2:04:15] » Mayor council I've talked to for firm

[2:04:16] mean about this our public works

[2:04:17] director. We will bring an item to you

[2:04:19] and explain the background. There is one

[2:04:21] particular water district that uh

[2:04:23] believes they are exempt from our rules.

[2:04:25] Um we'll bring that to you. Um it's not

[2:04:28] agendaized right now, but we're going to

[2:04:29] bring that up to you because we do have

[2:04:30] a moratorium on roads and we'll update

[2:04:32] you guys at a later date in the next

[2:04:34] couple weeks, but there there is a water

[2:04:36] agency that feels they're not they're

[2:04:37] exempt from our rules about, you know,

[2:04:39] pounding, you know, grinding into our

[2:04:40] new paved streets, and we'll bring that

[2:04:42] to you at a later date for discussion.

[2:04:45] » All right. Okie do. Okay.

[2:04:48] » So, we need to I'm sorry.

[2:04:50] » Um just a question here then. uh to

[2:04:53] approve this item, but make the changes,

[2:04:58] make the uh take the parking lot out and

[2:05:01] add the uh wages, the money that from

[2:05:03] the frozen position. Um is a motion uh

[2:05:09] to approve this item with those

[2:05:12] um amendments

[2:05:14] » With the with the amendment to take the

[2:05:16] parking lot out and move that towards

[2:05:17] streets. I believe we can do that

[2:05:18] administratively with respect to the

[2:05:20] » Fun just so we're clear. So we're

[2:05:22] everyone's transparent. That would be

[2:05:23] the director, the deputy director of

[2:05:25] community development. We froze that

[2:05:26] position after the vacancy. Okay. So

[2:05:28] it's clear in the record. And then um

[2:05:29] we'd add that in as well. And

[2:05:31] transferring that money uh directing

[2:05:33] staff to transfer that money towards the

[2:05:35] roads projects.

[2:05:36] » So that would be my motion then. That

[2:05:38] would take care of what I'm trying to do

[2:05:40] here. Okay. That would be my motion.

[2:05:42] Then

[2:05:42] » Can I I just want to ask a couple other

[2:05:44] Sure. real quick. The parking lot at

[2:05:47] Seventh Street now that was $30,000

[2:05:50] » Approximately. Yep. Where it would be

[2:05:52] grinding overlay and then striping it.

[2:05:54] » So if if somebody were to walk be

[2:05:56] walking in that parking lot and twists

[2:05:57] the ankle or break an ankle or something

[2:05:59] like that, is that

[2:06:01] » That's on us, right? That would be

[2:06:04] » Is the condition of the parking lot that

[2:06:05] bad?

[2:06:07] » There there have been some pothole

[2:06:09] repairs, but it it does need repaving.

[2:06:11] It's probably been 30 some years since

[2:06:12] since it's been repaved. It doesn't it's

[2:06:15] a rough ride, but it anything that would

[2:06:17] cause those types of risk, we can

[2:06:20] address those through pothole repair,

[2:06:22] but um it does need repayment, but it

[2:06:24] could wait another year.

[2:06:26] » You want to do

[2:06:29] » Okay, mayor. We just want to make it

[2:06:30] clear, too. It's a budget transfer. The

[2:06:32] city attorney is keeping me in line. Um

[2:06:34] so you know because it's above my my

[2:06:36] signing authority so we're asking

[2:06:38] requesting a budget transfer because I I

[2:06:40] furrowose the director of the deputy

[2:06:43] director position from community

[2:06:45] development and we're requesting a haron

[2:06:47] it's a 230 or to be transferred into the

[2:06:50] road

[2:06:50] » I mean the number is not certain yet

[2:06:53] because we got to figure out still

[2:06:54] what's remaining for the year but we'll

[2:06:56] get that number calculated and the

[2:06:58] payouts and everything so we don't have

[2:06:59] the number calculated yet but we can get

[2:07:00] that soon. Can we make the motion just

[2:07:02] to be the budget transfer for the

[2:07:04] position?

[2:07:05] » You can authorize the city manager to

[2:07:07] effectuate a budget transfer of the

[2:07:09] unspent money for the deputy uh

[2:07:11] community development director position

[2:07:12] over to the streets and they'll

[2:07:14] calculate it. I'm sure the city manager

[2:07:16] will send you an email with what that

[2:07:17] amount ended up being. If you have any

[2:07:19] questions, you can put it on a future

[2:07:20] agenda. So, I do I would like the city

[2:07:24] attorney to weigh in on what the mayor

[2:07:25] said regarding the parking lot at Sav

[2:07:27] Street Park. Um the question was if if

[2:07:30] it's in such disrepair and somebody was

[2:07:32] to twist their ankle or become injured,

[2:07:34] are we moving money away from mitigating

[2:07:38] that liability or or the question I had

[2:07:40] was is it in such disrepair that we're

[2:07:42] concerned? I think you said we can do

[2:07:44] band-aid fixes over anything that

[2:07:45] presents itself moving forward, but as

[2:07:47] of right now there's nothing nothing

[2:07:49] right now that you're concerned with

[2:07:50] relative to safety. Is that right?

[2:07:52] » Correct.

[2:07:53] Um, so if you are asking me if we should

[2:07:56] repair a parking lot that is in a

[2:07:58] dangerous condition, my answer would be

[2:08:00] yes. If staff has inspected it and it

[2:08:03] doesn't meet the definition of a

[2:08:05] dangerous condition, uh, as long as we

[2:08:07] keep monitoring it and if something does

[2:08:09] arise, we go out there and fix it, then

[2:08:11] I think our liability is relatively low.

[2:08:13] Um, the legal standard doesn't mean a

[2:08:16] perfectly smooth parking lot. It means

[2:08:19] one which does not present a danger to

[2:08:21] someone walking on it or driving on it.

[2:08:25] » Okay, I'll second council member

[2:08:27] Woolseie's motion.

[2:08:29] » We got a first and a second. All in

[2:08:31] favor?

[2:08:32] » I.

[2:08:32] » Any opposed?

[2:08:34] » All right. Thank you very much.

[2:08:38] Item number 11, the rodeo wrap-up.

[2:08:43] » Good evening, mayor and members of the

[2:08:45] council. The item before you tonight is

[2:08:47] the 2026 UKIPA rodeo wrap-up. The rodeo

[2:08:50] was successfully held on May 15th and

[2:08:53] 16th at the Ukipa Equestrian Center and

[2:08:56] City Park. Over two days, approximately

[2:09:00] 7,000 people attended this event.

[2:09:03] Attendees enjoyed bull riding, mutton

[2:09:05] busting,

[2:09:07] and a lot of other events. In addition,

[2:09:10] there was food and merchandise vendors.

[2:09:12] Feedback from attendees was positive,

[2:09:14] particularly

[2:09:16] regarding the quality of the rodeo. The

[2:09:19] rodeo received tremendous support from

[2:09:20] the community and local businesses, and

[2:09:23] their sponsorships totaled $138,000.

[2:09:27] The revenue brought in from the

[2:09:28] committee helps future rodeo operations

[2:09:32] and also goes into improvements at the

[2:09:34] UKIPA equestrian arena, which includes

[2:09:39] this year over $50,000 of improvements

[2:09:42] and equipment was purchased and put into

[2:09:45] the city park. They've also provided an

[2:09:48] annual payment to the city to help

[2:09:50] offset the city's maintenance and

[2:09:52] utility costs. Their current agreement

[2:09:54] pays $5,000 a year and the committee has

[2:09:57] agreed to increase this contribution.

[2:10:00] Staff will work with the committee

[2:10:01] president to prepare an amendment to

[2:10:03] their current agreement. Beyond its

[2:10:05] financial contributions, the UKIP rodeo

[2:10:09] remains one of the signature events in

[2:10:11] this community and it celebrates Ukipa's

[2:10:15] heritage. The success of this event

[2:10:18] would not have been possible without

[2:10:20] amazing volunteers and the Ukipa

[2:10:23] Equestrian Arena Committee.

[2:10:27] Its members donate countless hours

[2:10:30] throughout the year to ensure that the

[2:10:32] arena remains usable and that the rodeo

[2:10:37] is successful. At this time, I would

[2:10:39] like to introduce Shellyley and Jim to

[2:10:42] speak more about how amazing their

[2:10:45] committee is. As they make their way up

[2:10:48] here,

[2:10:50] I would like to say that we are looking

[2:10:52] forward

[2:10:54] to the 2027 UK rodeo, which is scheduled

[2:10:57] for May 14th and 15th, and staff will

[2:11:00] return to council at a later time to

[2:11:02] discuss those details. Here is Shelley.

[2:11:06] Good evening, council and mayor. We'd

[2:11:09] like to first thank you all for

[2:11:11] supporting and being there for the

[2:11:13] rodeo. Some of you went for the first

[2:11:15] time this year and got to enjoy it and

[2:11:17] got to sit right down on the grounds and

[2:11:19] see what we do. Looking back, some of

[2:11:22] our committee members are here. We'd

[2:11:23] like to thank them for the countless

[2:11:25] countless hours that make this happen.

[2:11:27] There's not that many of us and it's a

[2:11:29] big job to fill. We'd also like to thank

[2:11:33] Megan because Megan is our lifeline to

[2:11:38] you guys. And without Megan showing up

[2:11:41] in the middle of the night or the middle

[2:11:42] of the morning and picking up street

[2:11:45] signs and I can't even tell you, she

[2:11:48] probably doesn't want to take our phone

[2:11:49] calls during rodeo. So, having said

[2:11:51] that, this is for Megan.

[2:11:59] » We appreciate you.

[2:12:03] We're very grateful and you guys should

[2:12:05] be grateful for what she does for us.

[2:12:07] Secondly, we'd like to thank another

[2:12:09] member of our committee that has put in

[2:12:11] countless hours,

[2:12:13] more time, more energy than anybody I've

[2:12:16] ever met. Their heart and soul is part

[2:12:18] of the Akipa Equestrian Center and the

[2:12:20] rodeo grounds. You couldn't add up the

[2:12:23] numbers. You couldn't pay this person

[2:12:25] enough. come rain, snow, sleet, whatever

[2:12:29] it takes,

[2:12:31] this person is there. We'd like to honor

[2:12:33] Jim Butler tonight for all of his

[2:12:36] volunteerism and what he does for the

[2:12:37] city of Ukipa, Yukipa Equestrian Center,

[2:12:40] and the rodeo. If the uh members would

[2:12:44] like to come down, please so we can

[2:12:46] honor Jim.

[2:12:54] and the city also on behalf of the city

[2:12:57] council and the city of Ukipa, we'd like

[2:12:59] to present you this certificate and at

[2:13:01] the end of the report we'd love to have

[2:13:03] your photo taken.

[2:13:11] » Is there any questions or anything about

[2:13:13] the rodeo the UK equestrian center that

[2:13:15] I can answer for you?

[2:13:19] John

[2:13:20] Judy,

[2:13:21] » Do you want to do the picture and stuff

[2:13:23] first and then we can get into a

[2:13:24] discussion?

[2:13:27] » Yeah, that do you want to do that?

[2:13:29] » I'd just like to make a quick comment

[2:13:30] and take all the pictures we want. We

[2:13:32] took a lot of pictures today. So,

[2:13:34] » I just uh thank you for what you do. I

[2:13:37] mean, it is a historic uh event for our

[2:13:39] city and uh I got to go last year. It

[2:13:42] was great. But I also want to thank you

[2:13:43] guys for recognizing Megan for all the

[2:13:45] hard work she does, not only for your

[2:13:47] event, but all the events she works on.

[2:13:49] So, and that was nice of you to bring

[2:13:51] her some flowers. And thank you, sir,

[2:13:53] for your service and everybody that

[2:13:54] helps. Uh, it's a great event. It's part

[2:13:56] of the history of our town. So, uh, keep

[2:13:57] it up. Keep going. We'll do whatever we

[2:13:59] can to support you.

[2:14:00] » Thank you.

[2:14:07] » Oh, we're gonna take your picture really

[2:14:09] quick.

[2:14:12] Come on.

[2:14:23] » What? I'm going

[2:14:28] » You didn't want to carry your flowers?

[2:14:37] » It can't be done without without the

[2:14:39] city.

[2:14:42] in the middle.

[2:14:42] » Really?

[2:14:43] » Oh, yeah.

[2:14:48] » I wore my boots.

[2:14:53] » One, two, three,

[2:15:03] [applause]

[2:15:12] You guys are all

[2:15:25] » Good shot.

[2:15:35] Staff recommends that city council

[2:15:36] receive and file the 2026 rodeo wrap-up

[2:15:40] report or provide further direction to

[2:15:43] staff. This concludes my report and I'm

[2:15:45] available to answer any questions that

[2:15:46] you may have at this time.

[2:15:49] » All right. Thank you. So Bob, you made

[2:15:52] Justin.

[2:15:53] » Thank you for the rodeo. Appreciate

[2:15:55] everything. Appreciate everything y'all

[2:15:57] do. Uh I said y'all. Uh it's always a

[2:16:01] well attended event and uh I think it's

[2:16:04] probably one of the few community events

[2:16:06] that we never we never wonder if it's

[2:16:08] going to

[2:16:10] break. It doesn't ever it's always more.

[2:16:12] You guys always do a phenomenal job

[2:16:13] getting the people out there in spite of

[2:16:15] the uh some of the protesters out front

[2:16:17] who I don't think understand that some

[2:16:19] of the I think the livestock have better

[2:16:21] medical care than than I do. So thank

[2:16:23] you for everything you guys do for for

[2:16:24] our city and for the rodeo.

[2:16:28] Judy.

[2:16:29] » Okay. Uh, what year was this uh,

[2:16:32] contract originally made?

[2:16:38] » I don't know off the top of my head that

[2:16:40] the the year the city entered into an

[2:16:42] agreement with the equestrian arena, but

[2:16:44] I can look into that and get that

[2:16:45] information for

[2:16:46] » Would Shelly know?

[2:16:52] » I think was it five or six years ago or

[2:16:56] that's what I'm thinking. It's been like

[2:16:57] 10 years now. Yeah. In that area. Okay.

[2:17:00] And it was for 20 years. Correct.

[2:17:03] » Yes. It was a 20-year agreement.

[2:17:06] » Okay. Um things a lot of things can

[2:17:09] change in 20 years. As we all know, our

[2:17:12] prices go up, costs go up. Um the for

[2:17:16] first thing I want to say is the rodeo

[2:17:18] is a great event. I grew up around

[2:17:20] rodeos. I love rodeos and I understand

[2:17:24] the uh volunteer help and how important

[2:17:27] that is. Now uh you've been paying us

[2:17:30] 5,000. You have agreed that you would do

[2:17:33] an additional 2,500.

[2:17:36] I would like to propose that you add

[2:17:38] another 25 to that and bring it up 5,000

[2:17:42] for an even 10,000.

[2:17:45] Uh I asked for what it costs the city.

[2:17:49] Uh we pay $110,100

[2:17:53] a year in um

[2:17:56] costs for the equestrian center. So I

[2:18:01] just believe that an $10,000 would

[2:18:04] definitely help that. I really would

[2:18:06] wish that we could maybe sit down and

[2:18:08] renegotiate the contract at some point

[2:18:10] and just see if there's anywhere that we

[2:18:13] could maybe make some changes or

[2:18:16] something to help both of us. But my

[2:18:18] request would be, would you be willing,

[2:18:20] instead of 2,500, give us an additional

[2:18:24] 5,000?

[2:18:25] » At this time, we are in negotiation and

[2:18:28] set for a meeting that's two weeks out

[2:18:30] from now to go over those numbers once

[2:18:33] again. We have everything on paper.

[2:18:35] We've submitted it and we will be

[2:18:36] looking at a closer number to get you

[2:18:38] closer once we look at what it's going

[2:18:40] to cost for our startup for next year's

[2:18:41] rodeo. And just as you specified, um,

[2:18:45] all of our costs went up. the revenue

[2:18:47] is, you know,

[2:18:49] » Just like you guys see it. So, we are

[2:18:51] going to try to push our numbers closer

[2:18:52] to make everybody happy and we should

[2:18:56] have some answers for you in the next

[2:18:57] couple weeks.

[2:18:58] » Okay. Thank you, Shel.

[2:18:59] » Thank you.

[2:18:59] » Yeah.

[2:19:00] » Before you leave,

[2:19:03] » Go ahead.

[2:19:04] » No. Are you done?

[2:19:04] » I'm done. Yeah.

[2:19:06] » Oh. What's the chances of doing it twice

[2:19:08] a year

[2:19:11] » Right now? I would say absolutely not.

[2:19:13] But [laughter]

[2:19:14] it takes we don't have enough manpower

[2:19:17] to get this up and going. And the other

[2:19:19] thing, and we've discussed this before,

[2:19:22] um that you probably don't know about,

[2:19:23] but there's a rodeo circuit that goes

[2:19:25] around

[2:19:26] » And you book your dates a year in

[2:19:28] advance for these contractors and these

[2:19:29] people and these bleachers and these

[2:19:31] things to come in. If you are not booked

[2:19:32] in, you will not get them. We cannot put

[2:19:35] on a quality show by doing it two times

[2:19:37] a year with with the way we are doing it

[2:19:39] now. It would bring our show down. We we

[2:19:43] want to keep the level of a small town

[2:19:45] rodeo where we have it now. And that

[2:19:47] would be my answer.

[2:19:49] » All right, that's fair enough.

[2:19:50] » I have another question. [laughter]

[2:19:54] » Have you ever thought about doing any uh

[2:19:57] country western concerts?

[2:19:59] » I bet you could fill that arena.

[2:20:02] » We have um we've thought about having

[2:20:04] western days, having

[2:20:07] other events there. If you go to the

[2:20:10] UKIPA calendar, you can look to see what

[2:20:12] events we have for the month. There is

[2:20:13] quite a bit of shows and things going on

[2:20:15] booked out throughout the year.

[2:20:17] » Um, our intention would be to book it

[2:20:20] out more and do things like that

[2:20:23] » That involves the city, that involves

[2:20:25] the insurance, the liability, the street

[2:20:28] closures, all of that stuff takes money

[2:20:30] to put it on to make money.

[2:20:32] » So, yes, we do consider it. Sometimes we

[2:20:34] just got to figure out how we can do it.

[2:20:36] » Okay. Thanks.

[2:20:37] » Thank you.

[2:20:37] » All right. I think we're done this time,

[2:20:39] Shelley. So,

[2:20:42] all right, that was a receiving file.

[2:20:44] All right, thank you guys. And and thank

[2:20:47] you for everything you guys do for that

[2:20:50] rodeo. That's an amazing rodeo. Every

[2:20:52] year I go.

[2:20:55] All right, now it's make a difference

[2:20:57] day.

[2:21:00] » It's me and good evening, mayor and

[2:21:02] members of the city council. The item

[2:21:03] before you tonight is the discussion

[2:21:05] regarding the 2026 make a difference

[2:21:08] day. For more than 14 years, the city of

[2:21:10] Ukipa participated in this nationwide

[2:21:13] day of community services. Historically,

[2:21:15] the community services department and

[2:21:17] the public works department coordinated

[2:21:19] the event. This included identifying and

[2:21:21] organizing projects, recruiting and

[2:21:24] coordinating volunteers, providing

[2:21:26] supplies and equipment, promoting the

[2:21:28] event, and helping with the necessary

[2:21:30] logistics.

[2:21:32] As part of the city's efforts to address

[2:21:35] its financial condition, funding for the

[2:21:37] Make a Difference Day was eliminated

[2:21:39] beginning in fiscal year 2025 2026.

[2:21:43] Therefore, the current budget does not

[2:21:44] include funding or staff costs to

[2:21:47] coordinate the city sponsored event, a

[2:21:50] city sponsored event. The city manager

[2:21:52] recently discussed the event with the

[2:21:54] chairpersons of the parks and recreation

[2:21:56] commission, healthy Ukipa committee, and

[2:21:58] trails and open space committee.

[2:22:00] Although the city is not currently

[2:22:02] funded to sponsor or administer make a

[2:22:05] difference day, there still remains an

[2:22:07] interest in the community to put on this

[2:22:11] event. One option discussed for the

[2:22:14] interested residents, volunteers, and

[2:22:16] service groups is to apply for a special

[2:22:18] event permit through the community

[2:22:20] services department, which would allow

[2:22:22] the community to continue this tradition

[2:22:24] without returning its events to the

[2:22:26] previously city-f funed model.

[2:22:30] At its August 26th meeting, the Parks

[2:22:32] and Recck Commission discussed

[2:22:34] recognizing the event's history and the

[2:22:36] value while still acknowledging the

[2:22:38] city's current financial and staffing

[2:22:40] limitation. The purpose of tonight's

[2:22:42] meeting, well, the item at the meeting

[2:22:46] is to provide council with an

[2:22:48] opportunity to discuss whether Make a

[2:22:50] Difference Day should continue in some

[2:22:52] form and if so, if um the city should

[2:22:55] have any um

[2:22:59] sorry, what role the city should have

[2:23:00] moving forward. Staff recommends that

[2:23:03] the city council discuss make a

[2:23:05] difference day and provide further

[2:23:06] direction to staff. And this concludes

[2:23:08] my report, but I'm happy to answer any

[2:23:10] questions that you may have at this

[2:23:12] time.

[2:23:12] » All right. Thank you. You want to start

[2:23:14] us off, Bob?

[2:23:16] » Um,

[2:23:19] thank you, mayor. I think I made my

[2:23:20] comments when I commented back to

[2:23:22] Denise. Yes.

[2:23:23] » About what's done. So, I I mean, I

[2:23:24] support it, however we end up figuring

[2:23:27] out how we want to do it in the future.

[2:23:29] I know you still have the the I don't

[2:23:31] want to say the competitive day, but the

[2:23:32] church that does their love you kypa and

[2:23:36] then they're fixing schools and all

[2:23:37] that. So maybe I don't know.

[2:23:38] » I think that they're they're involved

[2:23:40] with this as well. I think that they are

[2:23:43] in

[2:23:43] » I don't I thought it would

[2:23:46] » I thought they ended up separating out,

[2:23:48] but you could educate me on that. I

[2:23:49] maybe we revisit that, but I don't know

[2:23:51] about the special event permit if we

[2:23:53] have to do that. But um I'd be glad to

[2:23:56] listen to anybody about that.

[2:23:59] At this time, I don't have an update on

[2:24:01] the Love You Kypa. Right before

[2:24:03] tonight's council meeting, I did receive

[2:24:04] a an email from Pastor Randy um stating

[2:24:08] that he uh no longer is going to take

[2:24:11] the lead on Love You Kypa and he's

[2:24:13] encouraging um other pastors within the

[2:24:16] community to take on Love You Kypa and

[2:24:19] take the lead on that. Um, but I'd be

[2:24:21] more than happy to get the details of

[2:24:24] that and return to the city manager with

[2:24:26] that information.

[2:24:27] » Okay.

[2:24:29] Um,

[2:24:31] yeah. So,

[2:24:34] I think the city should certainly

[2:24:38] help

[2:24:40] um make a difference day.

[2:24:43] The question is, I guess how

[2:24:46] I I don't I I agree with Councilman

[2:24:48] Miller. don't think we should we should

[2:24:49] we as a city should say that this is a

[2:24:51] good thing for the city ask us

[2:24:53] permission to do it and we'll let you do

[2:24:54] it. That seems counterintuitive like we

[2:24:57] we we should give we should empower

[2:24:59] people to do to um recognize a day

[2:25:03] whatever that day is as this is the make

[2:25:05] a difference day in Ukipa. And then we I

[2:25:08] mean I I do like the idea of it being a

[2:25:10] more of a philanthropy and more of a

[2:25:12] more of a giving thing where the

[2:25:14] Sunshine growers maybe donates and

[2:25:16] people are giving versus the city

[2:25:18] expending time and and money. Maybe a

[2:25:20] small amount of staff time. I help me

[2:25:22] understand that that dollar amount. You

[2:25:23] just said $100,000. What was it? Did you

[2:25:25] Did somebody say that?

[2:25:26] » No, we did not provide a a dollar amount

[2:25:28] for staff.

[2:25:29] » What was it pre What was the previous

[2:25:30] amount of money that we were that we

[2:25:32] budgeted for for Make a Difference Day?

[2:25:34] » Fine. Can correct me if I'm wrong. Well,

[2:25:36] actually, he's just walking up, so I'm

[2:25:37] going to let him take the mic.

[2:25:39] » Yeah, for years, uh, we budgeted an

[2:25:41] average of, uh, $15,000 per year in the

[2:25:45] public works maintenance budget for Make

[2:25:46] a Difference Day. I believe one of the

[2:25:48] speakers earlier mentioned that an

[2:25:49] average of 22,000.

[2:25:52] There were some years where the city's

[2:25:53] contribution was a lot higher, but

[2:25:55] that's because we were we coordinated a

[2:25:57] make a difference day make a difference

[2:25:59] day event at a site where the city had a

[2:26:02] CIP project. So we used some project

[2:26:04] funding and that $15,000 and one year I

[2:26:07] remember it was about $130,000 but but

[2:26:09] it it's $15,000 in a public works

[2:26:11] maintenance budget.

[2:26:12] » Yeah. So I agree with that part of it as

[2:26:15] well. I think I think if we were able to

[2:26:17] identify different projects in the

[2:26:19] community that we could rally an army

[2:26:21] behind of volunteers, we're spending the

[2:26:24] money anyways whether we're spending it

[2:26:26] on with our staff or contractor doing or

[2:26:28] we're empowering folks and nothing not

[2:26:31] you know doing electricity or anything

[2:26:32] that it has to be you know inspected but

[2:26:35] people can plant bushes and trees. Um

[2:26:39] I think we should identify a day

[2:26:42] this council should identify a day in

[2:26:43] the year and identify that that day is

[2:26:45] make a difference day. Maybe maybe the

[2:26:47] third Saturday of whatever month or

[2:26:48] whatever we decide and that's just in

[2:26:50] perpetuity that's what it is. Now the

[2:26:51] city staff that can then plan projects

[2:26:55] moving forward on stuff that we were

[2:26:56] that were you know we've already

[2:26:59] appropriated spending for to just do

[2:27:01] them on that day when we have a truly a

[2:27:02] volunteer army at our disposal to do

[2:27:04] them. um like we did at I think it was

[2:27:08] Elorado.

[2:27:09] We planted I mean we planted a ton of

[2:27:11] trees up there and we did that butterfly

[2:27:14] wildflower seeding of the ground, right?

[2:27:17] Um and I happen to know of a youth

[2:27:20] organization that wears camouflage that

[2:27:22] would love to come out and donate their

[2:27:24] hours in the community. So, uh I think

[2:27:27] uh I think we should identify a day. I'm

[2:27:30] not I'm not so sure we need to we need

[2:27:33] to identify a dollar amount as even for

[2:27:35] staff time. If we have a plan that the

[2:27:37] city's going to be doing something at a

[2:27:39] park or um you know along some roadway

[2:27:42] that we're going to do some

[2:27:43] beautifification anyways and we're going

[2:27:44] to be spending money on the landscaping.

[2:27:46] Let's see if we can get people to help

[2:27:47] us dig the holes and plan them. Um

[2:27:50] » You know what? I I jumped the gun a

[2:27:53] little bit. We do have public comment

[2:27:54] and I apologize for that to the

[2:27:57] citizens. Um, can we get to public

[2:27:59] comment first?

[2:28:00] » Yeah.

[2:28:01] » Thank you.

[2:28:02] » We'll start with Dee Chudy, followed by

[2:28:04] Kathy Sers.

[2:28:15] » Good evening, Mayor and City Council.

[2:28:17] Dee Chudy, president of Ukipa Valley

[2:28:20] Conservancy and also a member of the

[2:28:23] Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day

[2:28:25] Saints who love Make a Difference Day.

[2:28:28] We love to get our families out there.

[2:28:31] Speaking of the Elorado, as a

[2:28:33] conservancy, we are so excited to get

[2:28:35] that and the five wins to you guys and

[2:28:38] to see it develop and grow a lot of it

[2:28:42] because of Make a Difference Day. And

[2:28:44] the people come out. It's free labor.

[2:28:47] It's good for the families. It's good

[2:28:48] for kids to learn work ethics. And it is

[2:28:52] just fabulous for the city of Ukipa. And

[2:28:55] I hope from what I've heard already in

[2:28:58] the discussions that you will support

[2:29:01] make a difference state. have some staff

[2:29:03] out there show us where maybe we won't

[2:29:05] have a lot of trees to plant. But

[2:29:07] there's some ruts when I ride out

[2:29:09] through the Elorado

[2:29:11] that some good strong men could get all

[2:29:14] those ruts out of there and get ready

[2:29:16] for the winter that's coming, make some

[2:29:17] diversion dams, but your staff will need

[2:29:20] to direct us on that. And that's why

[2:29:22] we'd love to have them out there showing

[2:29:24] us what needs to be done. And it's

[2:29:27] great, not just there at the Elorado,

[2:29:29] but all around Uka. You can see the

[2:29:31] trees growing along over by Craftton

[2:29:34] that they've planted and just the people

[2:29:37] come back and they look up there and

[2:29:39] they see their trees they planted years

[2:29:41] ago and they're huge. They're wonderful

[2:29:44] and it's I hope the city does still

[2:29:46] support it and do this. Thank you very

[2:29:49] much.

[2:29:49] » Thank you.

[2:29:51] [applause]

[2:29:59] Kathy Sers, District 1. Good evening,

[2:30:02] mayor and council members. First, I want

[2:30:03] to thank Mayor Venibal for requesting

[2:30:05] that Make a Difference Day be placed on

[2:30:07] tonight's agenda. For 14 years, this

[2:30:09] city sponsored tradition has brought

[2:30:11] residents, service organizations,

[2:30:13] elected officials, city employees, and

[2:30:15] volunteers together to improve and

[2:30:16] beautify Ukipa. Its value cannot be

[2:30:19] measured only by the projects completed

[2:30:21] or the number of trees planted. Make a

[2:30:23] difference day created community

[2:30:25] fellowship. Neighbors worked side by

[2:30:27] side. Families served together and

[2:30:29] people became more connected to Ukipa

[2:30:31] and invested in its future. My own

[2:30:33] family participated in this event. We

[2:30:35] tagged trees with the names of our young

[2:30:37] grandchildren who are growing up here.

[2:30:39] As those trees grow, our grandchildren

[2:30:41] grow with them. They are living

[2:30:43] reminders that we are planting roots,

[2:30:45] creating memories, and leaving something

[2:30:47] meaningful for the next generation.

[2:30:49] Mayor Venal and Deputy Mayor Beaver have

[2:30:51] participated in this event and witnessed

[2:30:53] the civic pride it inspires. Make a

[2:30:55] Difference Day would also create a

[2:30:57] natural opportunity to partner with the

[2:30:59] Inland Empire Resource Conservation

[2:31:01] District in restoring monarch butterfly

[2:31:03] habitat at El Dorado Ranch Park.

[2:31:06] Volunteers could plant native flowering

[2:31:08] trees and plants, create pollinator

[2:31:10] habitats, and improve public spaces

[2:31:12] throughout Yukipa. Families could return

[2:31:15] year after year to see how their trees

[2:31:16] have grown and how those plantings

[2:31:18] support monarchs and other butterflies,

[2:31:20] possibly leading to Ukipa's own

[2:31:22] butterfly pavilion and muchneeded

[2:31:24] tourism. Children could learn that even

[2:31:26] a small pollinator garden can support

[2:31:28] butterflies, bees, birds, and our

[2:31:30] environment. After all, butterflies are

[2:31:32] free. Make a Difference Day could help

[2:31:34] that initiative take flight. We

[2:31:36] understand that the city faces serious

[2:31:38] budget problems resulting from f

[2:31:40] financial decisions made years ago. That

[2:31:43] makes careful prioritization especially

[2:31:45] important. The staff report suggests

[2:31:48] that community members could coordinate

[2:31:49] the event with limited or no city

[2:31:51] support. But asking volunteers to assume

[2:31:54] the planning, liability, permitting,

[2:31:56] equipment, supplies, and logistical

[2:31:58] responsibilities previously handled by

[2:32:00] two city departments is not truly

[2:32:02] continuing the same event. It shifts the

[2:32:05] city's responsibility onto residents who

[2:32:07] are already donating their time and

[2:32:08] labor. The city found nearly $200,000 in

[2:32:12] taxpayer money for the recall lawsuit

[2:32:14] and its settlement, yet eliminated

[2:32:16] funding for a positive familyoriented

[2:32:18] community tradition. Those priorities

[2:32:20] are difficult to justify. If the city

[2:32:23] could spend that much funding, that much

[2:32:25] fighting its own residents, it should be

[2:32:27] able to find modest funding,

[2:32:29] sponsorships, partnerships, and staff

[2:32:30] support to help residents serve their

[2:32:32] city. Please measure make a difference

[2:32:35] day by the trees still growing, the

[2:32:37] friendships formed, the children who

[2:32:39] participated, the butterflies that will

[2:32:42] return, and the civic pride it creates.

[2:32:44] Restore a meaningful city role. Continue

[2:32:47] making a make a difference day and help

[2:32:49] nature take flight in Ukipa. Thank you.

[2:32:54] » Thank you,

[2:32:55] » Christine Mhler, followed by Hansen

[2:32:57] Wong. [clears throat]

[2:33:07] Thank you so much for hearing me,

[2:33:08] Christine Mohler. Wow, that was a hard

[2:33:11] that's hard to follow. Um, you know, I

[2:33:13] just want to say that um Make a

[2:33:15] Difference Day is uh

[2:33:19] something that um

[2:33:22] can't put value on. It's it's a feeling.

[2:33:25] It's a fellowship of a community. I

[2:33:28] mean, you can't buy that. The fellowship

[2:33:31] of a community coming together to

[2:33:33] benefit the community. Dr. Moore threw

[2:33:36] down his gauntlet and he he challenged

[2:33:39] us and we understand the budget

[2:33:43] challenges. So, we tried our best to,

[2:33:47] you know, reach out to see what we could

[2:33:49] accomplish without the city's help. And

[2:33:53] of course, you know, everything is

[2:33:54] better with the city's help, city

[2:33:56] council support, staff support, of

[2:33:58] course. Um, and of course, Megan and

[2:34:01] Sarah could, you know, everything is

[2:34:04] better with their help for sure. And for

[2:34:06] me and Scott, for sure. You know, we've

[2:34:09] been doing that for years, for 14 years.

[2:34:11] I want to address your your point,

[2:34:13] Justin, that it could be different days.

[2:34:15] This is a national day. And I want to

[2:34:18] point out too that 14 years ago when we

[2:34:20] started this, this the little city

[2:34:23] [snorts] of Ukipa, which was much

[2:34:24] smaller at the time, won the award in

[2:34:27] the state of California. Now realize

[2:34:29] there's 483

[2:34:31] cities in the state of California. And

[2:34:33] UKIPA won the most participation, which

[2:34:36] got us grant money, which we're so proud

[2:34:39] of, right? But, you know, it's

[2:34:41] interesting because in this challenge, I

[2:34:44] reached out to several people to see if

[2:34:46] we could, you know, garnered the help.

[2:34:48] You wouldn't believe the type of

[2:34:50] response that we've gotten. For example,

[2:34:53] I reached out to Chief Malinowski. And I

[2:34:56] asked him, I said, "You guys always

[2:34:58] provide a crew. Do you think you can pro

[2:35:00] provide a crew for us on the 24th?" And

[2:35:03] he said, "What do you need?"

[2:35:05] I said, "We're going to put some

[2:35:06] monuments up for the trail hits." And he

[2:35:08] goes, "My guys can dig." And I said,

[2:35:10] "Yeah, we're going to put some concrete

[2:35:12] up." My guys can put concrete up. I

[2:35:14] called the water district. I said, "Hey,

[2:35:16] you think you can volunteer some things?

[2:35:18] What do you need?" Everybody was what

[2:35:20] you need. The school district, the um

[2:35:23] Cal Fire Edison, IRDC, the mountain bike

[2:35:27] team, Three Peaks Corp., the um parks

[2:35:30] and recck committee. They're going to

[2:35:32] take on two projects. the civic center

[2:35:35] and Flag Hill Park trail head markers um

[2:35:38] by the trails and open space butterfly

[2:35:41] projects with seed and seed bomb

[2:35:42] projects. We have two kid projects, a

[2:35:45] rock snake painting to continue that the

[2:35:48] snakes that we have going on in the

[2:35:49] parks and a butterfly seed bomb project.

[2:35:52] And we have a teacher right here who's

[2:35:54] willing to to head that on the senior

[2:35:57] center by our healthy Ukipra. They're

[2:36:00] going to get together with Vanessa and

[2:36:02] rehab the courtyard. There's a goal that

[2:36:05] Steve Franken has set for us and that's

[2:36:07] 400 irises planting 400 iris bulbs.

[2:36:11] That's our that's our the box. We have

[2:36:15] all kinds of things going on. And what

[2:36:17] we're asking for is just give us an

[2:36:19] opportunity to make a difference. Give

[2:36:21] us an opportunity to come together as a

[2:36:24] community. This community is unique.

[2:36:27] Fellowship is what we're all made of.

[2:36:30] You, a lot of you have come out and

[2:36:33] volunteered so many times. Um,

[2:36:36] Councilman Thorp, you cracked me up at

[2:36:38] the mountain bike dedication. I got him

[2:36:41] a shirt that was a little bit too small

[2:36:43] and he asked me, "Do I have to wear it?"

[2:36:45] And he did. So, you know, those kind of

[2:36:48] things, our fellowship, that's what our

[2:36:50] community is about. And I promise, uh,

[2:36:52] Dr. Moore, if you come, I'll buy you the

[2:36:55] right shirt.

[2:36:56] » Thank you.

[2:36:58] Hansen Wong. [applause]

[2:37:15] The past few years, there have been

[2:37:18] several things that have caused

[2:37:19] divisiveness in our city. But one thing

[2:37:23] that hasn't

[2:37:25] has been the make a difference day where

[2:37:27] people come together and they think

[2:37:30] about what to do to make our city better

[2:37:35] whether it's our senior center whether

[2:37:38] it's the

[2:37:40] the parks and so on. We even worked on

[2:37:44] the library sidewalk once and so on. So

[2:37:49] I think it's important that we consider

[2:37:52] something that brings people together

[2:37:54] rather than divides people.

[2:37:56] I think that um the ability to have

[2:38:03] trees and butterflies and whatever else

[2:38:06] that we do is something that our

[2:38:09] community can socialize, come together.

[2:38:13] The trees themselves I I mean there are

[2:38:16] tree organizations that we try to get

[2:38:18] into the city that had difficulty but

[2:38:21] the trees are good mentally and

[2:38:23] physically for our city. This project

[2:38:28] and the day is good for our city

[2:38:30] mentally and physically. So I I think we

[2:38:33] need to do what we can. Obviously, there

[2:38:35] is a financial burden, but again, if the

[2:38:38] city guides us as to what needs to be

[2:38:41] done and what can help um our parks and

[2:38:46] uh whatever other areas that are needed

[2:38:48] or senior center and so on and whatever

[2:38:52] amounts of fund and direction that you

[2:38:55] can give us, whatever amounts of

[2:38:56] voluntary time that the city can give

[2:38:59] us, but to have the city spearheaded and

[2:39:02] accommodate the day that's a a national

[2:39:06] day and not just a random day I think

[2:39:09] would be an important many ways for our

[2:39:12] city and our city should consider it.

[2:39:15] Thank you very much.

[2:39:16] » Thank you.

[2:39:18] [applause]

[2:39:19] » Have no more comments.

[2:39:20] » Okay.

[2:39:22] So, John,

[2:39:25] » I would agree with the federal council

[2:39:27] members that stated, you know, like to

[2:39:29] support it, but as far as financially, I

[2:39:32] don't think that we can

[2:39:34] commit to that at this time. But if they

[2:39:36] want to go out to the community and they

[2:39:37] want to have an ad hoc committee and

[2:39:39] they want to be able to get together and

[2:39:41] get the community involved and get

[2:39:43] support from all those in the area, I'm

[2:39:44] more than happy to be a part of it as

[2:39:46] well from my seat. But um I think

[2:39:49] financially we got to hold on to our

[2:39:51] pennies right now.

[2:39:52] » All right, Judy,

[2:39:54] » I have no problem with the event. Uh but

[2:39:57] I thought we had already uh decided on

[2:40:00] this and discussed it that the city

[2:40:02] would not be involved because of our

[2:40:04] budget. So uh as far as I'm concerned uh

[2:40:07] volunteers uh should do this. I think

[2:40:10] that's great. City should stay out of

[2:40:13] it.

[2:40:14] » So my question remains uh some of the

[2:40:17] money we budgeted how much of that is

[2:40:19] staff time? What what percentage was it?

[2:40:21] Was staff time versus an outright check

[2:40:23] being written to somebody for the

[2:40:24] purchase of stuff?

[2:40:26] » Deputy mayor and councel, we'll have to

[2:40:28] look into that. I don't have that

[2:40:29] number, unfortunately. We have to bring

[2:40:31] it back. But I also want to call to your

[2:40:32] attention that while it's a very

[2:40:35] meritorious uh endeavor, there's also

[2:40:38] costs. Uh Scott had mentioned to me, our

[2:40:40] our deputy public works director, we

[2:40:42] also have to irrigate them, the trees.

[2:40:44] We also have to maintain all of these

[2:40:47] things. We also have to, you know,

[2:40:48] there's a lot of things that the city

[2:40:50] ongoing will have to maintain on these

[2:40:52] programs. They're great programs.

[2:40:53] They're awesome. Um, but, you know,

[2:40:55] those are things that we need to

[2:40:56] consider. We can bring a complete staff

[2:40:58] report if that's the direction of the

[2:40:59] council. I don't have those numbers.

[2:41:00] » Yeah. But nothing in Make a Difference

[2:41:02] Day says things have to be planted,

[2:41:03] living things that have to be

[2:41:04] maintained. There's

[2:41:06] » I'm going off previous uh previous uh um

[2:41:10] events that we've had. Staff mentioned

[2:41:12] that they had to replant plants and

[2:41:14] trees. They had to irrigate, re-rigate

[2:41:16] them. them. They weren't irrigated. All

[2:41:18] of that costs time and money, resources

[2:41:20] to the city of Yuka.

[2:41:22] » Noted. So, there are plenty of projects

[2:41:25] though that don't need to be maintained

[2:41:27] that can just be something that the city

[2:41:29] has to have done anyways. Um, our um

[2:41:33] veterans flag park is constantly in need

[2:41:35] of help, whatever that is. Even if it's

[2:41:37] just weed abatement, that doesn't you

[2:41:39] don't need to maintain weed abatement. I

[2:41:41] mean, that's something we should be

[2:41:41] doing anyways. In fact, I'm pretty sure

[2:41:42] our municipal code requires us to get

[2:41:45] rid of weeds at city facilities. So, um,

[2:41:49] the reason I say that all that is

[2:41:52] if we're cautious about spending extra

[2:41:56] money, we already employ we we already

[2:41:58] employ people, right? Pretty sure we

[2:41:59] already employ people their schedule,

[2:42:01] move their schedule to go inside of that

[2:42:03] day so that we have people out there

[2:42:04] helping these volunteers work on city

[2:42:07] pro city projects as well. Um, that's

[2:42:09] not an expenditure. That's just what it

[2:42:11] costs to have a city. Um I I don't that

[2:42:16] the whole staff time thing is seen as a

[2:42:18] as a cost. Unless you're telling you're

[2:42:21] going to lay people off, that's not a

[2:42:23] cost. That's we employ people and yes,

[2:42:26] we have to pay them. And so if we're

[2:42:27] going to have an event where we are

[2:42:29] getting hundreds of volunteer people to

[2:42:33] come and help us help our city staff,

[2:42:36] that's that's actually that's more

[2:42:38] that's cost effective. Um, and so we

[2:42:41] should be involved with make a

[2:42:42] difference day on October 24th. Thank

[2:42:44] you, Christine. Uh, we should be

[2:42:46] involved and our city staff should be

[2:42:48] involved as well. And if that means we

[2:42:49] schedule adjust them and they work on

[2:42:50] Saturday, but they don't work on Friday

[2:42:51] or whatever the case may be, that I

[2:42:54] don't that's and then and then we lean

[2:42:55] on the volunteers that are want to be

[2:42:57] involved. And again, if they're planting

[2:43:00] stuff on city property that has to be

[2:43:01] maintained by city and it has to be a

[2:43:03] continuing budget to take care of that

[2:43:04] outside of what is already being like I

[2:43:07] imagine we have irrigation in some

[2:43:08] places already. Maybe there's dead dead

[2:43:10] trees that already have irrigation ran

[2:43:12] to them. I know for certain not every

[2:43:14] tree that we planted in 2022

[2:43:18] maybe make a difference today survived

[2:43:20] at Elorado. They need to be replanted

[2:43:22] and there's already irrigation ran to

[2:43:23] them. This just a matter of replanting a

[2:43:26] tree. So um we we it is foolish of us at

[2:43:31] this council to say no, we're not the

[2:43:33] city's not going to get involved in

[2:43:35] having hundreds of people getting

[2:43:36] together to volunteer to help the city

[2:43:38] be better. That's a that's a silly that

[2:43:39] is a silly statement. Um we need to be

[2:43:41] involved because otherwise we're doing

[2:43:43] it ourselves and we're paying for it out

[2:43:45] of pocket. Now we're now we're spending

[2:43:46] more money to do what could have been

[2:43:47] done in one day by a bunch of

[2:43:48] volunteers. So um I have this quote on

[2:43:51] my screen that I've thought about since

[2:43:53] uh Denise spoke earlier. Uh the one who

[2:43:55] plants trees knowing that he will never

[2:43:57] sit in their shade as at least started

[2:43:58] to understand the meaning of life. Um we

[2:44:00] have to do it now because the city the

[2:44:03] maintenance of the the gem of the Inland

[2:44:04] Empire has to be continuously

[2:44:06] maintained. whether or not we see the

[2:44:08] beauty of it 20 years down the road, it

[2:44:10] has to be done now. And so, um, what I

[2:44:13] want to avoid is this this slope of we

[2:44:16] we don't have enough money to maintain

[2:44:17] stuff and get involved because Karen

[2:44:18] Bass is doing that in LA, but not just

[2:44:20] choosing not to maintain any roadways.

[2:44:22] Like, what what a foolish decision. Um,

[2:44:24] we have people who are literally kicking

[2:44:25] down our door begging to help. They all

[2:44:26] want us in guidance and it's going to

[2:44:28] cost us a little bit of staff guidance.

[2:44:30] Yeah, that's a good investment. Um, poor

[2:44:32] investment to step away from that.

[2:44:35] [applause and cheering]

[2:44:41] I agree with that. You know, if you

[2:44:44] outweigh the the help that we get for

[2:44:46] how much it costs us to do it ourselves,

[2:44:49] I mean, and then bringing a community to

[2:44:51] together, that's priceless. That's

[2:44:54] absolutely priceless, you know, to bring

[2:44:56] a community together like like they do.

[2:44:59] So, um, you know, we might have that not

[2:45:02] have the budget in it in our I mean the

[2:45:04] money in our budget this year, but you

[2:45:06] know, on next year's budget, you know, I

[2:45:08] if if I'm still around, uh, I'll make

[2:45:13] sure that we we have some money put in

[2:45:16] the budget for next year. So, um, what

[2:45:20] do we

[2:45:24] » Well, I I still I think we should we

[2:45:25] need to discuss whether or not I mean,

[2:45:27] fine. There's no

[2:45:29] We did budget positions. We we funded

[2:45:32] public works positions. Those are

[2:45:34] already funded.

[2:45:35] » And there are certainly probably

[2:45:36] projects that they want they would like

[2:45:38] to get done somewhere around October,

[2:45:40] sorry, somewhere around October 24th.

[2:45:44] If we coincide again, fine. If if

[2:45:47] Scott's concern is, hey, they go out and

[2:45:49] plant all these trees and we just let

[2:45:51] them die because we have to have to pay

[2:45:52] for the irrigation and pay for the

[2:45:53] mainten fine. Okay. But there's other

[2:45:55] I'm certain I'm confident that if we

[2:45:57] could sit down Scott and say, "Scott, if

[2:45:59] you had a hundred people here today,

[2:46:01] what would you want them to help you

[2:46:02] do?" I refuse to believe you'd say, "No,

[2:46:04] that's a huge liability. I don't I I

[2:46:06] have nothing for them to do." That's

[2:46:08] that's not realistic. I I know a lot of

[2:46:10] I know of a lot of city properties that

[2:46:11] have weeds on them. We can at least do

[2:46:13] some weed abatement. So, um

[2:46:17] yeah, the there's too many volunteers

[2:46:19] for us to turn them away and say,

[2:46:20] "Sorry, we don't we can't help you this

[2:46:22] year." We have park park issues with

[2:46:24] with irrigation issues on it that we can

[2:46:26] get taken care of. There's, like you

[2:46:29] said, the trees that are dead in in

[2:46:31] certain areas that have irrigation.

[2:46:33] Maybe we can get those, you know, but I

[2:46:35] I think that you guys have plenty of of

[2:46:39] projects to do, right, to, you know,

[2:46:45] to get this going. So, where do we go

[2:46:48] from here?

[2:46:51] So, we're just waiting for direction

[2:46:52] from the council. What you want to do?

[2:46:54] You want to direct staff to bring, you

[2:46:56] know, work with uh um the folks there

[2:46:58] that are leading making the effort. I

[2:47:00] can have Megan work with them and

[2:47:01] because we don't have a scope of a

[2:47:02] project yet detailed fully. So, Megan

[2:47:05] can reach out tomorrow and start working

[2:47:06] with them to figure out what what their

[2:47:08] scope of the project is and go forward

[2:47:10] from there. And then bring if you want,

[2:47:12] we can bring the item back. And for

[2:47:14] Councilman Thorp and Councilwoman

[2:47:16] Woolseie's benefit, I'm not I'm not

[2:47:17] advocating the city write a check and

[2:47:19] start spending money,

[2:47:20] » Right?

[2:47:20] » Staff time is one thing,

[2:47:22] » But again, we employ we employ quality

[2:47:24] staff anyways. We got they have to work.

[2:47:26] Let's put them to work. This is a good

[2:47:27] project that they should be working on.

[2:47:29] I'm not saying that we should go out and

[2:47:30] say, "Hey, go buy 12 1,250 trees." Don't

[2:47:34] do that. I'm not saying we should do

[2:47:35] that. Okay? But if already they have a

[2:47:38] plan or something happening and they

[2:47:40] were going to be making the expenditure

[2:47:41] on on something that was approved

[2:47:42] anyways around that time, defer it a

[2:47:44] week or two and do it on that day.

[2:47:46] » Justin, um, who was it that commented so

[2:47:50] many was it daffodils or something?

[2:47:52] » Irises. Irises.

[2:47:54] » I know we're in Iris City. I realize

[2:47:56] that. Okay. They're going to have to be

[2:47:59] planted, watered, tended to.

[2:48:01] » Yeah. I don't know where they're

[2:48:02] planting them at. Where are they

[2:48:03] planting irises at? wherever our city

[2:48:04] arborist tells us to.

[2:48:06] » Yeah,

[2:48:08] » It all involves it does involve staff

[2:48:10] time.

[2:48:11] » Not necessarily because we actually do

[2:48:12] have wild irises that grow in the city

[2:48:14] that don't that aren't maintained,

[2:48:15] » But they're going to have to be planted

[2:48:16] and taken care of. I mean, they will do

[2:48:18] the planting, but they still going to

[2:48:20] have to be taken care of. It's just my

[2:48:22] point is that um we've already discussed

[2:48:26] the fact that there is no money for

[2:48:29] staff or uh this type of program because

[2:48:34] we did not budget for it.

[2:48:37] It's not in the budget.

[2:48:38] » But there is there is a budget for staff

[2:48:39] because I we

[2:48:40] » Staff yes to do the things that staff

[2:48:43] needs to be doing with our parks. Not

[2:48:46] additional work. This would be

[2:48:48] additional.

[2:48:49] » I don't think so.

[2:48:51] We're going to agree to disagree.

[2:48:52] » There you go. [laughter]

[2:48:55] » Go ahead, Bob.

[2:48:56] » Thank you, mayor. You know, I'm always

[2:48:58] amazed. We spend millions and millions

[2:49:00] of dollars on equipment and other things

[2:49:02] that we do in this city, and we get into

[2:49:05] these long conversations over money

[2:49:08] that's in the thousands. It's amazing.

[2:49:11] I've seen it going on cities for years.

[2:49:12] They used to argue over a copier, how

[2:49:14] much a copier cost while approving, you

[2:49:16] know, 15 police cars. So, we just got to

[2:49:20] get perspective. This is a good thing.

[2:49:22] And even though only two council members

[2:49:24] were mentioned, John, I met you planting

[2:49:26] trees over in El Dorado when I was

[2:49:29] running for school board and I got to

[2:49:30] know you there and that was really fun.

[2:49:32] And we met a bunch of people and we

[2:49:34] beautified the community to a beautiful

[2:49:36] park that had a vision. These are things

[2:49:38] cities need to do. It's quality of life

[2:49:40] issues which all relate back to crime in

[2:49:43] some respect.

[2:49:44] » It's all about community, quality of

[2:49:46] life. What kind of town do you live in?

[2:49:49] You know, these kind of days are

[2:49:50] something special. We should mark that

[2:49:52] as, hey, make a difference day.

[2:49:53] Celebrate it. And u I just want

[2:49:56] perspective of the money we've spent

[2:49:58] over this last year. And when we get

[2:50:01] talking about a few thousand dollars,

[2:50:03] quite frankly, it seems to be the

[2:50:05] biggest debate we have as a council. I'm

[2:50:07] not blaming this council. I've seen it

[2:50:08] happen for years at other councils. But

[2:50:10] we have to have perspective. This is a

[2:50:12] good thing. I haven't heard one council

[2:50:13] member say it's not a good thing.

[2:50:15] » Right? This is stuff we have to allocate

[2:50:17] funds for, in my opinion, for the

[2:50:19] beautifification and the community feel

[2:50:21] it gives to our town. That's what we're

[2:50:22] here for. You know, it's what we're

[2:50:24] supposed to do. Yes, we all love monarch

[2:50:26] butterflies. I know Valley Elementary

[2:50:28] has a nice thing and and irises are

[2:50:30] pretty and it's natural here and trees

[2:50:33] are wonderful and the parks are great.

[2:50:35] That's all part of quality of life. It's

[2:50:38] all part of everything you do

[2:50:40] holistically to reduce crime. I mean, if

[2:50:43] you really want to put it in

[2:50:44] perspective, um, you know, and we don't

[2:50:46] always mean to go with the crime thing,

[2:50:48] but me and Justin probably will and

[2:50:49] John, too, but, you know, it's part of

[2:50:52] that community thing. So, I I I think we

[2:50:54] should allocate some money to this,

[2:50:55] quite frankly. We're moving 200,000

[2:50:57] here. We're doing 500 here. This is not

[2:51:00] that big a

[2:51:01] » Right issue for us. Uh, I I don't hear

[2:51:04] anybody that's negative about it other

[2:51:05] than Justin explaining that, hey, we

[2:51:07] already have staff working. And yeah,

[2:51:09] I'm sure Scott and the guys had to look

[2:51:11] at water and and maybe there were some

[2:51:13] things that needed to be replanted.

[2:51:14] Okay, that's what a city does. You know,

[2:51:17] we can do all that stuff. That's the

[2:51:19] good stuff you do. That's the good stuff

[2:51:21] for the community. That's all I got to

[2:51:23] say.

[2:51:24] So So we're we're freezing this one of

[2:51:28] the staff members that that had recently

[2:51:31] left, right? We're freezing that that

[2:51:33] position. And you said it was 200 some

[2:51:35] thousand. It's roughly Well, we don't

[2:51:37] have the details left. 200 something.

[2:51:39] » Can you take half of that and get that?

[2:51:42] » Well, mayor, that's that's already a

[2:51:43] separate item that was already voted on

[2:51:45] by the It's not on the agenda.

[2:51:47] » Yeah,

[2:51:49] » $15,000.

[2:51:50] I'm sure we can find $15,000 somewhere.

[2:51:53] » We I can bring it back an item if the

[2:51:55] council desires. We could put it back on

[2:51:57] after we get Megan meets with them and

[2:51:59] gets the scope and we can bring it back

[2:52:00] for your consideration

[2:52:02] and give you a budget, too.

[2:52:04] » Okay. Does that work? If that works for

[2:52:06] you,

[2:52:06] » I'm good with that.

[2:52:07] » You make a motion.

[2:52:09] » Yeah. Uh I make a motion that staff

[2:52:11] returns to the council with uh an agenda

[2:52:13] item to discuss a budget for Make a

[2:52:16] Difference Day in perpetuity.

[2:52:18] » I'll second that motion.

[2:52:20] » All right, we got a first and a second.

[2:52:21] All in favor?

[2:52:22] » I

[2:52:23] » I.

[2:52:23] » Any opposed?

[2:52:24] » Yes. No.

[2:52:26] » All right.

[2:52:29] [applause]

[2:52:34] » Okay.

[2:52:35] All right. Any council members have any

[2:52:37] comments or business reports requests?

[2:52:39] Bob?

[2:52:40] » Yeah. Oh, sorry. Thank you, mayor. I

[2:52:42] appreciate the time. Um, I just wanted

[2:52:44] to thank the fire chief and the whole

[2:52:45] crew and our police department and our

[2:52:47] city and our staff and Megan for the 911

[2:52:50] ceremony. Um, it was really special. Uh,

[2:52:53] you kept it like an hour. So, Chief,

[2:52:55] thank you. That was pretty good.

[2:52:56] People's attention's about an hour. We

[2:52:58] had a lot of great guest speakers there.

[2:53:00] We had our state senator, our assembly

[2:53:02] member, our superintendent, our county

[2:53:05] supervisor. Uh it was nice to see the

[2:53:08] support for our town by our other

[2:53:10] elected officials in the regional area.

[2:53:12] So that was wonderful. I thought that

[2:53:14] the uh the uh honor guards were

[2:53:17] outstanding. They hit the point every

[2:53:19] time even though they got a little

[2:53:20] crowded there where we had them uh doing

[2:53:22] the ceremony because we had to make the

[2:53:24] adjustment because of the heat. We had

[2:53:26] to think of people. Um, but I got a lot

[2:53:28] lot of great comments afterwards. What a

[2:53:30] beautiful ceremony. And that's something

[2:53:31] I know your heart and souls in chief.

[2:53:33] Um, and it's beautiful, man. We need to

[2:53:35] do these kind of things and to honor

[2:53:37] that. We've all covered it in speeches

[2:53:39] already. We all spoke at it, but u just

[2:53:42] remembrance. You know, I I talked about

[2:53:44] Tyler Davis. I go outside. We got his

[2:53:45] picture hanging right here before you

[2:53:47] come into city hall. I mean, these are

[2:53:48] things that intrinsic things we need to

[2:53:50] continue in our city to remember the

[2:53:53] things and the sacrifice that occurred.

[2:53:55] So, uh, thank you. uh for putting on the

[2:53:57] event. Thank you for letting us all

[2:53:59] speak and I thought it was a pretty good

[2:54:01] event. That's really all I had tonight.

[2:54:02] » Thank you.

[2:54:04] » So on the uh on that note with uh

[2:54:06] September 11th, Thursday, I saw a pretty

[2:54:09] cool news newscast that talked about a

[2:54:11] shift from never forget to always

[2:54:13] remember and they're pushing for

[2:54:14] education in school to educate about it.

[2:54:16] And I'm thinking it'd be awesome to find

[2:54:18] a way to um you know do something here.

[2:54:21] I know that there's a there's a we just

[2:54:23] did it in Nusa and I know it exists. Um

[2:54:25] there's still lot of um debris and

[2:54:30] wreckage from the Twin Towers that is

[2:54:33] available for free to municipalities to

[2:54:36] put in their lobby or put actually Lom

[2:54:38] Molinda Fire Department. Have you seen

[2:54:39] Lolinda Fire Department's 911 memorial

[2:54:41] hit is incredible. Um

[2:54:44] I'm not advocating we spend money.

[2:54:45] That's that would cost a lot of money to

[2:54:46] do that.

[2:54:47] If we can find a way to incorporate that

[2:54:50] and and shift the conversation from not

[2:54:52] just never forget but always remember so

[2:54:54] that we help you know I got I have

[2:54:56] police officers on my that were well

[2:54:58] that when I used to be a cop now I'm an

[2:54:59] administrator but when I used to be a

[2:55:01] cop uh there was cops on my shift that

[2:55:03] they weren't even alive they're carrying

[2:55:04] a gun now they weren't even alive when

[2:55:06] the Twin Towers fell which is crazy that

[2:55:08] we have law enforcement officers who

[2:55:10] were learning about the the response to

[2:55:12] a terrorist incident in the academy

[2:55:13] because they didn't they weren't alive

[2:55:14] for it. Um, so thank you, Chief, and to

[2:55:18] city staff for the 911 event. Um,

[2:55:21] Chief, I'm glad to see the squad out

[2:55:23] there. It looks nice. Uh, it's taken, I

[2:55:26] think, maybe a year of me having these

[2:55:28] uncomfortable remarks, following every

[2:55:29] public safety, um, update at city

[2:55:32] council meetings, talking about how we

[2:55:33] are failing our people. It's a step in

[2:55:35] the right direction of making sure that

[2:55:36] our first responders are taken care of.

[2:55:38] They're taking care of everybody. It's

[2:55:40] the least we can do as a council to take

[2:55:41] care of them in this way. So, I'm I'm

[2:55:43] happy to see that squad out I want to

[2:55:44] thank my my colleagues on the DIS for

[2:55:46] everything that you guys did to support

[2:55:47] that because that piece of equipment

[2:55:49] right there will save more lives than

[2:55:52] anything that we've done. That that was

[2:55:54] huge and to see that come to fruition is

[2:55:56] awesome. Um I'd also like to take a

[2:55:58] moment to talk about an opportunity

[2:55:59] available to young people in our

[2:56:00] community through the East Valley Young

[2:56:02] Marines. Um outstanding work private

[2:56:04] that was a phenomenal public uh comment.

[2:56:07] Um today my daughter Private Beaver

[2:56:09] spoke about the importance of making a

[2:56:11] commitment to a drug-free lifestyle.

[2:56:12] That commitment is something that young

[2:56:14] Marines take very seriously. But what I

[2:56:16] think is equally important is giving our

[2:56:18] young people something positive to

[2:56:19] commit to. The Young Marines gives young

[2:56:21] men and women an opportunity to build

[2:56:22] leadership, discipline, teamwork,

[2:56:24] confidence, and character while serving

[2:56:25] their communities and honoring our

[2:56:26] veterans. Um the Brazwell's uh

[2:56:30] convolescent homes made a $4,000

[2:56:32] donation. The uniform she's wearing was

[2:56:34] donated by Brazwells. Um we're going to

[2:56:35] be sending our young Marines to talk to

[2:56:37] veterans in the Brazwell convolescent

[2:56:38] homes and serve them meals and just have

[2:56:40] a chat with them. um that that bridge

[2:56:43] between the most senior of our community

[2:56:45] who served and the youngsters who are up

[2:56:47] and coming is huge. It's not just about

[2:56:50] marching and wearing uniform though.

[2:56:51] Looking ahead to 26 and 27, our young

[2:56:54] Marines that serve this community have

[2:56:56] opportunities to participate in

[2:56:56] leadership training conferences around

[2:56:58] the nation, schools, community of uh

[2:57:00] service projects, veterans events, and

[2:57:02] experience that young many young people

[2:57:04] simply don't get anywhere else. their

[2:57:06] opportunities to attend leadership

[2:57:07] schools, public uh develop public

[2:57:08] speaking and teamwork skills,

[2:57:11] participate in physical challenges and

[2:57:12] outdoor activities, and eventually take

[2:57:14] on leadership responsibilities of their

[2:57:15] own. There are so many incredible

[2:57:17] opportunities to learn history firsthand

[2:57:18] and honor people who came before us.

[2:57:20] Young Marines this year participated,

[2:57:21] our young Marines we sent to uh Window

[2:57:24] Rock, Arizona to participate in the

[2:57:25] Navajo Code Talkers. The last Navajo

[2:57:27] code talker just passed away. a World

[2:57:29] War II veteran who used their native

[2:57:31] language to help us win the war uh

[2:57:34] against the Japanese. Uh and there that

[2:57:37] was a not that wasn't a code. That was

[2:57:38] just their language that could not be

[2:57:39] deciphered by any global um intelligence

[2:57:43] agency. They were they had no clue what

[2:57:45] was being said and it was because of our

[2:57:46] the Navajo Native Americans that stepped

[2:57:48] up and fought our for our nation. Um, in

[2:57:51] December, uh, my daughter here and the

[2:57:53] rest of the unit is going to be going to

[2:57:54] Pearl Harbor, laying wreaths at the

[2:57:55] Pearl Harbor memorial in remembrance of

[2:57:56] activities honoring the Americans who

[2:57:58] served and sacrificed there. Then

[2:58:00] there's the fun parts, camps,

[2:58:01] competitions, adventures, trips,

[2:58:03] friendships, and the opportunity to meet

[2:58:04] other young people from across the

[2:58:05] country who share the same commitment to

[2:58:06] leadership and service. That combination

[2:58:09] is what makes the young Marines special.

[2:58:11] Purpose, service, leadership, and fun.

[2:58:12] So, if you have a son or daughter,

[2:58:14] granddaughter, niece, nephew that is

[2:58:16] between the ages of eight and high

[2:58:17] school, please come on down to the

[2:58:18] Redlands Elk Lodge on Saturday, this

[2:58:20] Saturday, the 19th from 9:00 a.m. to 11

[2:58:22] for a parent orientation. Um, we're

[2:58:23] looking to recruit. We want to get more

[2:58:25] and more young men and women involved in

[2:58:27] this program. This is not a recruiting

[2:58:28] tool for the Marine Corps. She does not

[2:58:29] want to be a Marine. She doesn't want to

[2:58:30] join the military. She wants to be a

[2:58:31] nurse, but this is foundational

[2:58:34] leadership that you can use whether you

[2:58:35] want to be in the military, first

[2:58:37] responder, or the CEO of Fortune 100

[2:58:40] Corporation. Um, and so I'm I'm the

[2:58:42] executive officer of this East Valley

[2:58:43] unit in Redlands. I'm happy to be it's a

[2:58:45] it's a volunteer uh assignment. I don't

[2:58:48] have a whole lot of extra time, but I'm

[2:58:49] happy to commit to this because it's

[2:58:50] something that is truly remarkable to

[2:58:52] see these youngsters in a world where

[2:58:55] kids are saying cap and busing and aura

[2:59:00] say yes sir, yes ma'am and commit to an

[2:59:03] obligation of uh representing

[2:59:05] themselves, their parents, and their

[2:59:06] nation in a way that's not going to

[2:59:07] bring native credit upon them. So, um,

[2:59:09] thank you for that, Private Beaver.

[2:59:11] Outstanding work tonight. I'm very very

[2:59:13] proud of you and I love you so much.

[2:59:14] Thanks.

[2:59:16] » All right. [applause]

[2:59:21] » Thank you, Mayor. All right. I've got uh

[2:59:23] three items. The first one I would like

[2:59:27] to call for a review of the city

[2:59:29] manager's contract and his performance.

[2:59:31] He's been here for about seven months.

[2:59:33] We have approved the budget. We've made

[2:59:34] some major purchases. We've got some big

[2:59:36] decisions in the future coming up. I

[2:59:38] think we talked about this when we

[2:59:39] brought the city manager in. So, I think

[2:59:40] it's probably a good time to maybe bring

[2:59:42] that into a close session to uh discuss

[2:59:44] that. So, that's my first item that I

[2:59:46] would like to see in the future.

[2:59:48] Um

[2:59:51] second,

[2:59:53] we've recently had a lot of items about

[2:59:55] the fire department and while I not

[2:59:57] saying that I don't want to support

[2:59:58] them, I do support them. I have got some

[3:00:01] concerns. In the past year, we have

[3:00:04] allocated or authorized to spend over $5

[3:00:07] million for three engines, not to

[3:00:10] mention the two squad trucks we just saw

[3:00:12] out front today. Roughly 80,000 for

[3:00:14] those. Um,

[3:00:16] what we have not spoken about is the

[3:00:18] overall bigger picture. So, I would like

[3:00:21] this item to come back and I would like

[3:00:24] to know, we already asked this question

[3:00:26] earlier tonight from the chief. Do we

[3:00:28] have a place to put those two squad

[3:00:30] trucks? We're full. Uh we have a ladder

[3:00:32] truck that we've ordered that we won't

[3:00:33] see for four years is costing us three

[3:00:35] almost $3 million or around three

[3:00:37] million. I don't know if we've ever

[3:00:40] talked about where it will fit, if it

[3:00:42] can fit. Do we have to retrofit a

[3:00:43] firehouse? Do we have to build a

[3:00:45] firehouse? If we have to build a

[3:00:46] firehouse, do we have land? If we don't

[3:00:48] have land, where are we going to get it?

[3:00:50] So, we have just I think created a chain

[3:00:52] of events where we are going to have to

[3:00:55] spend a lot of money. This was the

[3:00:56] inexpensive purchase. While it was a lot

[3:00:58] of money, um we are going to be faced

[3:01:02] with some significant possibly uh

[3:01:05] additional things we have to do down the

[3:01:06] road. So, I think we need to bring this

[3:01:08] back. We need to bring those things back

[3:01:09] in one item and discuss this uh a little

[3:01:13] further because do we need any special

[3:01:15] accommodations for that fire truck? Um

[3:01:18] what's it going to cost to staff it?

[3:01:19] What's the overhead if we have to build

[3:01:21] another building? Is it $20 million for

[3:01:23] another fire station plus property? So,

[3:01:25] I think and I and I support the fire

[3:01:28] fire department and I think we need

[3:01:29] those things. However, in four years

[3:01:32] when we get a ladder truck, we need to

[3:01:35] have a plan how we're going to pay for

[3:01:37] it uh where it's going to be parked. We

[3:01:40] can't park it outside and let the

[3:01:41] elements degrade it. So, we need to

[3:01:44] figure out, we've talked about this

[3:01:45] multiple times in the past about uh

[3:01:47] revenue, long-term, you know, strategic

[3:01:49] financial planning, things of that

[3:01:50] nature. and um you know, four years to

[3:01:54] come up with a plan to purchase maybe

[3:01:58] significantly a lot more things just to

[3:02:00] house these trucks and and take care of

[3:02:02] that overhead. We really seriously got

[3:02:04] to talk about how we're going to afford

[3:02:06] those things. Um I'm concerned about

[3:02:08] that. So, and I don't know, maybe

[3:02:10] there's some secret squirrel plan in the

[3:02:11] background that some few select people

[3:02:13] know about that I'm not privy to. I

[3:02:15] don't know of any property. I don't know

[3:02:16] that we have a spot to park the truck.

[3:02:18] Um, I think they're significantly bigger

[3:02:20] than our pump trucks if I'm not

[3:02:21] mistaken. So, um, I think those are some

[3:02:24] questions that probably should have been

[3:02:26] asked previously. Um, but weren't that I

[3:02:30] recall. And so, I would like to see that

[3:02:32] bigger overall picture. How we're going

[3:02:33] to fund it? Where where's it going to

[3:02:34] go? How are we going to get there?

[3:02:35] Because we don't have long-term

[3:02:37] financial um, planning going on right

[3:02:38] now. We're doing short-term fixes. We're

[3:02:40] talking about cutting things, not

[3:02:43] spending money on things. We can only do

[3:02:45] that. Council Miller's brought it up

[3:02:46] multiple times. you can only do that so

[3:02:47] far. At some point, we're going to end

[3:02:49] up with nothing. And where do you go

[3:02:51] from there? And we haven't got the

[3:02:52] long-term plan in action. Those

[3:02:53] long-term plans can take a long time to

[3:02:55] come to fruition.

[3:02:57] So, that's item number two. Item number

[3:02:59] three,

[3:03:01] something I I don't want to do, but I

[3:03:03] feel I have a duty to do it.

[3:03:06] Uh recently it came to light that there

[3:03:09] is a uh community in our county that has

[3:03:16] come to find out that there is a company

[3:03:17] that is owned and operated by one of our

[3:03:20] council members and also employs one of

[3:03:23] our city managers, our man city uh

[3:03:24] employees and our fire chief and they

[3:03:28] are [snorts]

[3:03:29] got it on their radar that this is a

[3:03:31] conflict of interest. So I would like

[3:03:33] this item to come back. The name of the

[3:03:34] company is Culper, CU L Per Consulting.

[3:03:38] It is owned and operated by uh Justin

[3:03:40] Beaver. We've got our public service uh

[3:03:44] manager, Trevor Benson, on staff as the

[3:03:46] vice president. And we have the fire

[3:03:48] chief on there as an executive director,

[3:03:51] I believe, is the title. Um I need that

[3:03:54] brought back. I think we need that

[3:03:56] brought back to see if there is a

[3:03:58] conflict of interest. Um other

[3:04:01] communities are have noticed it. it was

[3:04:03] brought to my light. I looked up the

[3:04:05] website. Sure enough, their pictures are

[3:04:06] on there and it describes them. Um, and

[3:04:11] if there's not one, so be it. But I

[3:04:13] think we have a duty to look into it and

[3:04:15] make sure. And also amongst that staff

[3:04:17] report when it uh comes back, I think we

[3:04:20] need to figure out also have we employed

[3:04:22] under the city manager's authority, have

[3:04:24] we employed uh use that that services

[3:04:27] for anything? Culper. Um because I think

[3:04:29] that could also be possibly a conflict

[3:04:31] of interest if we have. So, um those are

[3:04:34] my three items and unfortunately uh as

[3:04:36] we mentioned earlier tonight, someone

[3:04:38] mentioned uh about having uh

[3:04:41] transparency. Uh each and every one of

[3:04:43] us at some point have had to recuse

[3:04:45] ourselves over something and we've had

[3:04:46] to talk about things that maybe we've

[3:04:47] missed or that have come up and I think

[3:04:49] this is one that we need to get in front

[3:04:51] of it before it uh before it hits us in

[3:04:53] the face. So, we need to bring that back

[3:04:55] and discuss it. Please,

[3:04:58] that's all I have. Can the fire

[3:05:00] department discussion go to the public

[3:05:01] safety committee first before it goes to

[3:05:03] full session so we can have the public

[3:05:05] safety committee weigh on it?

[3:05:06] » Say that one more time.

[3:05:07] » The fire department discussion relative

[3:05:09] to the four, five, 10 year plan for the

[3:05:12] fire department and growth go to the

[3:05:14] public safety committee that we have the

[3:05:16] standing public safety committee.

[3:05:17] » I don't have a problem with that, but I

[3:05:18] I do think it needs to come back as a

[3:05:20] public uh

[3:05:22] discussion. Public needs to hear it

[3:05:23] because I I think we got some serious

[3:05:25] dollars ahead of us that I mean and I

[3:05:28] could be wrong. the chief may have a

[3:05:29] plan and we just I'm just not in his

[3:05:30] head. I don't know it. You might know

[3:05:31] it. Um but I I am not uh privy to that

[3:05:36] and I just think this the count the city

[3:05:38] needs to know because we're talking

[3:05:40] about finances and where we're going in

[3:05:42] the long term and my concern is that um

[3:05:47] we are creating a need to spend more

[3:05:49] money that maybe in four years we'll

[3:05:51] have it. Maybe it will be flush in four

[3:05:53] years. Maybe the city wins some major

[3:05:56] lottery. I don't know. Um, but I I don't

[3:05:58] know where it's going to come from. And

[3:05:59] I I just know, you know, when we built

[3:06:01] when the city built the uh sheriff

[3:06:04] station, it was on that spreadsheet. I

[3:06:05] think it was $10 million for the

[3:06:06] sheriff's department. That was 13 years

[3:06:09] ago,

[3:06:10] » I think. So, I'm sure we're not

[3:06:13] comparing apples to apples because they

[3:06:15] have special equipment for exhaust,

[3:06:16] sucking the exhaust out of the bay so it

[3:06:18] doesn't, you know, cause problems in

[3:06:20] their bays. I don't know what special

[3:06:22] considerations need to go into effect

[3:06:23] for um a ladder truck. So, I don't have

[3:06:26] a problem with it going to committee,

[3:06:27] but it I think it needs to come back as

[3:06:28] a public discussion item.

[3:06:31] » Can we agendaize it for the public

[3:06:32] safety committee first?

[3:06:35] » Mayor, council, whatever your direction

[3:06:36] is, we could put it on first. You give

[3:06:38] us direction and then we'll bring it

[3:06:39] back as requested.

[3:06:44] » You have a question.

[3:06:44] » Are you okay with that?

[3:06:46] » With what?

[3:06:46] » The public safety committee hearing that

[3:06:47] first?

[3:06:48] » No, I'd bring it back to the council. We

[3:06:50] don't need to go through another

[3:06:51] committee. I I do have a question

[3:06:53] though. this first I've heard of this.

[3:06:55] Uh do we have some kind of a policy for

[3:06:58] uh employment outside of the city doing

[3:07:01] some other job? Do you have a policy?

[3:07:03] Most cities do.

[3:07:04] » Yes, we do.

[3:07:05] » And was that complied with and followed?

[3:07:08] » I I defer to the city attorney's office,

[3:07:09] but I believe that was that was looked

[3:07:11] at because this question came up.

[3:07:14] » When did that come up?

[3:07:17] Um, so I I can check with HR on when

[3:07:20] they were notified and what checks they

[3:07:23] did. Um, again, I this wasn't on the

[3:07:26] agenda. It wasn't a discussion we were

[3:07:28] planning on having. And we're talking

[3:07:29] about potential employee action, so I'd

[3:07:32] like the opportunity to look at it

[3:07:33] before we answer an open session. Sir,

[3:07:35] » I I deem that you do. Uh, it's first

[3:07:38] I've heard of this. Um, in fact, it's

[3:07:40] quite unusual. So, I would like us to

[3:07:42] have a full report back to us on any

[3:07:44] conflict of interest issues and fully

[3:07:47] fully vetted quite frankly. Um, there's

[3:07:50] some red flags on this. So, let's make

[3:07:52] sure we do the right thing.

[3:07:53] » When when the council is asking about

[3:07:55] conflicts of interest, are we talking

[3:07:57] about the Political Reform Act or 1090?

[3:07:59] Because if that's the case, it may be

[3:08:01] better just to submit this as a request

[3:08:05] for advice to the FPBC.

[3:08:07] » I want some advice from you from this

[3:08:09] seat.

[3:08:10] » Okay.

[3:08:11] I think yes to all of that because um we

[3:08:14] don't know what agreements they may have

[3:08:15] entered into what how they're using

[3:08:17] their positions for this new position

[3:08:18] they're working in. Um I I didn't pull

[3:08:22] it but and it may be that it has just

[3:08:24] hasn't had a chance to be reported yet

[3:08:25] but it doesn't sound like it's been

[3:08:26] reported on a 700 form yet. So I think

[3:08:28] there's a lot of things to look at and

[3:08:30] to figure out make sure it's not a

[3:08:32] conflict of interest all the way around.

[3:08:33] Um, and there's a there's a lot there

[3:08:37] and again this was brought to light and

[3:08:41] I think we need to look into it and I

[3:08:42] think our citizens need uh deserve an

[3:08:44] explanation.

[3:08:46] » Right. Well, uh, we're talking about

[3:08:48] personnel that are under the direction

[3:08:49] of the city manager. So, my

[3:08:51] recommendation would be to ask him to

[3:08:53] look into the matter and bring back a

[3:08:55] report at a future date on whatever his

[3:08:58] findings are. Well, I'd like you to get

[3:09:00] that vetted and then send us

[3:09:01] confidential memo as you do on

[3:09:03] everything else that we can discuss and

[3:09:05] at least even if it's got to go to close

[3:09:07] session to begin um and comprehensively

[3:09:10] tell us what the issue is. I'm not aware

[3:09:12] of this. I I know that I was heard there

[3:09:14] was a consulting company before u my

[3:09:17] council member mentioned that in a

[3:09:18] meeting but um I didn't know we had earn

[3:09:21] employees working for it. So uh I and

[3:09:24] you got to you really look look at the

[3:09:26] broader bush. Now, I'm not going to jump

[3:09:27] to a conclusion.

[3:09:29] I'm going to wait to hear from you and

[3:09:32] hear what you put together for us.

[3:09:33] » It sounds like an outside employment

[3:09:35] issue. So, we'll we'll work.

[3:09:37] » It may be more than that.

[3:09:39] » It may be a point where we have to bring

[3:09:40] in a third party to look at this that's

[3:09:43] disinterested from everything. If

[3:09:45] there's any conflict at all,

[3:09:48] quite frankly,

[3:09:48] » We'll we'll see what we turn up.

[3:09:50] » That's right. So, the these are the

[3:09:52] things from my seat I would like you to

[3:09:53] talk about in your memo when you send it

[3:09:56] to us.

[3:09:56] » Okay.

[3:09:57] » Um I'm still waiting for the memo while

[3:09:59] you bring this subject up about the fire

[3:10:01] department on how it was purchased the

[3:10:03] squad that we had to go to Texas. There

[3:10:05] was supposed to be a follow-up memo memo

[3:10:07] from the city manager on how that was

[3:10:10] done. We found a way to do it is what I

[3:10:12] was told. I I still have nothing in

[3:10:14] writing over that. So, we got several

[3:10:18] issues going here. Uh, again, I don't

[3:10:21] rush to judgment. I just want the facts

[3:10:23] from this seat.

[3:10:25] » Right. If So, I've heard two council

[3:10:27] members ask us to look into that. If the

[3:10:29] mayor or the council has to put as a

[3:10:31] whole to put that on the agenda, we will

[3:10:36] thank you,

[3:10:39] Judy.

[3:10:41] » Okay. Um, I actually took a two-week

[3:10:45] vacation, went to Idaho, visited with my

[3:10:48] daughter, and while I was there, we went

[3:10:50] to a rodeo. We went to the ranchers

[3:10:54] rodeo where the ranchers in the area

[3:10:57] form teams and compete against each

[3:11:00] other. And it was so much fun. It was

[3:11:02] just great. Kind of what I grew up with.

[3:11:05] So, I do love the rodeo. It's a great

[3:11:07] thing. So, I only have two things to uh

[3:11:11] report on. Of course, Friday evening,

[3:11:13] the um city ceremony here for 911. And

[3:11:17] yes, they did a great job. Uh very

[3:11:20] moving. And then Saturday, uh Dr. Moore

[3:11:24] and our mayor and myself went to the

[3:11:27] Elks ceremony, and they always do a

[3:11:30] great job, too. And they actually fed

[3:11:32] us, too. We had a great meal to go with

[3:11:35] it. So, those were my two um things that

[3:11:39] I did in three weeks.

[3:11:41] [laughter]

[3:11:42] » Thank you. You should have heard her

[3:11:45] speech on Saturday if you had a chance.

[3:11:47] Um we were supposed to get it recorded,

[3:11:50] but um uh did you get it recorded?

[3:11:54] » No. Somebody

[3:11:55] » Somebody had one job to do and they

[3:11:58] didn't do it. [laughter]

[3:12:00] » It's a it's a joke between us. Somebody

[3:12:02] was supposed to video it and he forgot.

[3:12:04] So, it's not not a problem. But

[3:12:08] anyways, it was a great speech. If you

[3:12:09] would have if you'd have gone, it was it

[3:12:12] was actually a tearjerger and it was it

[3:12:15] was talking about the people running

[3:12:18] from and talking about the people

[3:12:20] running to uh you know, and it was just

[3:12:22] it was an amazing speech. So, you did a

[3:12:24] great job, Judy.

[3:12:25] » Thank you.

[3:12:25] » But so, [clears throat]

[3:12:27] before I conclude tonight, I' I'd like

[3:12:29] to re recognize Dan Lunham.

[3:12:34] So, [clears throat]

[3:12:35] um, Dan, it's a funny story because I'm

[3:12:38] I'm driving down the boulevard Saturday

[3:12:40] morning to go to the gym and I look at

[3:12:43] this elderly guy picking up trash off

[3:12:45] the, you know, out of the streets over

[3:12:47] by Vans.

[3:12:49] So, I pull off and I I try to find him

[3:12:53] and I can't find him. I can't find him.

[3:12:55] Finally, I'm over by the mattress place

[3:12:57] and I look up and there he is. And so,

[3:12:59] I'm hollering at him. He probably

[3:13:00] thought I was a weirdo,

[3:13:03] but [clears throat] I'm I said, "Sir."

[3:13:04] And he says, "Yeah." I said, "I'm I

[3:13:08] don't you know," I said, "I'm the mayor

[3:13:10] of you Kypa." And he goes, "You're Chris

[3:13:11] Vinnable?" And I said, "Yes, I am." He

[3:13:13] goes, "I read your stories." And I said,

[3:13:16] "How long have you been doing this?" He

[3:13:17] says, "I do it all the time." He says,

[3:13:19] "I pick up I talk to Megan uh once a

[3:13:23] week and I pick up from one to five bags

[3:13:26] of trash in our city every week." And

[3:13:30] this just touched me, you know, that you

[3:13:33] you you see our beautiful city and you

[3:13:35] have this, you know, elderly gentleman.

[3:13:38] He has a a vest on, you know, um safety

[3:13:42] vest and he's walking up and down our

[3:13:44] cities and stuff. And, you know, I just,

[3:13:47] for one thing, I' I'd wish that our our

[3:13:50] community would give him a honk and give

[3:13:51] him a, you know, a boy Dan, you know,

[3:13:54] because that's what makes our city so

[3:13:57] special. And so [clears throat] I had

[3:14:00] Megan look up, you know, and since

[3:14:02] September 2016, Dan has carried or cared

[3:14:06] for both sight uh sides of Yukipa

[3:14:08] Boulevard from Fifth Street to Valley

[3:14:10] Circle parking, picking up letter uh

[3:14:13] litter every Tuesday and and every other

[3:14:15] Saturday. In addition, Dan helps the

[3:14:18] city by reporting code violations and

[3:14:22] areas where streets and sidewalks uh

[3:14:25] need repair.

[3:14:27] So

[3:14:29] on behalf of the city council and the

[3:14:30] entire community, thank you Dan Lunham

[3:14:34] for uh nearly 10 years of faithful

[3:14:37] service and taking such great pride in

[3:14:39] our city. Also, I'd like to thank

[3:14:41] everybody in participation to the cities

[3:14:43] to keep UKIP clean and programs all over

[3:14:46] the volunteers generously give their

[3:14:49] time to make Ukipa cleaner. Your efforts

[3:14:53] are seen and much appreciated. So,

[3:14:58] if you seen Dan out there, give him a

[3:14:59] honk and just, you know, let him know

[3:15:02] that we're all supporting him. So, I

[3:15:03] appreciate you guys. So, the city

[3:15:06] manager have any other ann

[3:15:08] announcements?

[3:15:10] » Yes, mayor. I'd like to introduce um the

[3:15:13] East Valley Young Marines uh private

[3:15:15] beaver. She's going to speak on my

[3:15:17] behalf.

[3:15:19] » All right.

[3:15:20] » Uh there is no ann amount announcements.

[3:15:24] » All right. Thank you.

[3:15:27] » So, the next regular city uh uh council

[3:15:31] council meetings on Monday, September

[3:15:32] 28, 2026.

[3:15:34] » Mr. Mayor.

[3:15:35] » Yes, sir.

[3:15:35] » Sorry to interrupt you. Um you didn't

[3:15:38] say anything about those three items and

[3:15:40] I don't know if staff has direction from

[3:15:42] staff or not to

[3:15:43] » Something I'm going to have to think

[3:15:44] about for

[3:15:44] » So, um I just don't want to let it die

[3:15:46] and just not be addressed. So, if you

[3:15:48] could weigh in on that somehow, please.

[3:15:50] Yeah, I'll I'll be let me get my head

[3:15:53] wrapped around everything that was just

[3:15:54] said tonight and I'll go over the agenda

[3:15:57] and and and I'll I'll let Dr. Moore

[3:16:00] know.

[3:16:01] » Well, we have two council member

[3:16:02] requests.

[3:16:03] » Okay. And that's what I said.

[3:16:07] If you have a problem with that, I don't

[3:16:09] know what to tell you. So, I'll think

[3:16:12] about it. I'll listen to the agenda and

[3:16:15] I'll make comment at it on it on it when

[3:16:17] I'm when I have a better sense of it.

[3:16:20] Okay.

[3:16:24] Are you gonna Okay, thank you very much.

[3:16:28] So, the next regular meeting at City

[3:16:30] Kaiba is Monday, September 28, 2026 and

[3:16:34] the time is

[3:16:36] 8:16 and I'm going to adjourn the

[3:16:38] meeting. Thank you very much for coming.

[3:16:40] » You tried to take some of my money.

[3:16:44] [laughter]

[3:16:44] » I know I did. Tell them.

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