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If you get to my good side, um, but the moon, the public, the fact that I can't get this out of the can.
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And, uh, in Carolina.
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Look, there's an infant.
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No.
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It's an infant.
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If you say that man again, you call, I'll personally come over there.
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He'll be back there.
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Oh, I, that, that just makes me sick to my stomach.
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Yes.
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Don't tell me anything.
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Don't tell me.
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No, they don't want anything.
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I think let him grab him in the arms.
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That was a gentleman.
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That was John.
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He's a, I don't know.
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That was John.
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He's bad.
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This is, uh, is, is, he's a really, really nice guy.
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I think there's so many first and last, you know, second order.
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I'm just going to say lose.
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I swear to god.
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Oh, I need to check Ray's life, I think.
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He died four years ago.
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Yeah.
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I don't know what's right just clearly.
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It's a long walk.
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It's a long walk?
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Yeah, just 2011.
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2011, I don't know if it's Saturday.
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I don't know if it's a long walk.
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Well, Bridget left a message that she hasn't called me that.
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I left her a message yesterday.
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Tipper's here?
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Yeah, and call your friend.
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I'll try her again tomorrow or Wednesday,
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because I need to get a picture of it
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so that we can get it.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to ask y'all to move this,
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after this, this.
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Okay, please.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to ask y'all to move this,
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after this, this.
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Okay, please.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to ask y'all to move this,
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after this, this.
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Okay, please.
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Yeah, before this.
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Yeah, okay.
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Move what?
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First one, after the minutes.
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Yeah.
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Because I'm just not trying to get involved in that.
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Right.
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Under this right here.
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Before this.
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Okay.
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So one goes up here.
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Yeah.
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So instead of the approval and a meeting agenda,
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you're after that, after the,
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because y'all have to approve it and move it.
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So before public comment.
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It would be, yes.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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No, I'm not getting out of work.
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Meeting comes to order. Welcome to everyone.
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I'm glad everyone came out on this cold, cold night.
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Hopefully we won't keep you here too long.
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If you could call the roll please.
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Council Member Alexander?
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Here.
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Council Dean?
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Here.
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Council Member Flaming?
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Here.
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Council Member Patrick?
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Here.
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Council Member Conner?
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Here.
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Council Member Spangler?
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Here.
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Thank you.
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Please rise for the pledge.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
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the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God,
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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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I need approval of minutes for January 5th, 2015.
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So moved.
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Second?
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Second.
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Discussion?
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Call the roll please.
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Council Member Alexander?
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Yes.
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Council Member Dean?
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Yes.
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Council Member Flaming?
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Yes.
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Council Member Patrick?
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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All right.
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Approval of meeting agenda.
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I just want to make a correction and then I'm going to ask you to move
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something.
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This is the second read, not the first read for the mid-year budget
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amendment.
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Please make note for the record.
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And we have a guest here tonight, two guests.
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And if I could respectfully ask Council to move the recognition
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of Halpern bequest up to the next item actually.
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So they will not have to sit through the rest of the meeting
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if they do not wish to.
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Motion to approve meeting agenda with the two changes requested
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by the mayor.
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Okay.
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Second?
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Second.
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Discussion?
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Call the roll please.
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Council Member Alexander?
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Yes.
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Council Member Dean?
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Yes.
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Council Member Flaming?
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Yes.
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Council Member Patrick?
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Yes.
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Council Member Conner?
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Yes.
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Council Member Tangler?
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Recently received a great message from one of our own business
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leaders in Dorville.
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Somebody that really requires no introduction in our community,
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Mr. Halpern, and he brought his sister with him today.
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But I wanted to make a short acknowledgement of the kindness
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of the Halpern family.
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Recently they sent me a letter and they had a donation for
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$10,000 for the police department.
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And we wrestled really hard on what we had so many needs
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in the police department.
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So we thought about what we could potentially get.
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Something that honors the wishes of their mother
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and also the memory of their father,
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whose name is pretty significant in our community.
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So what we decided, our officers got together and we bought
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two pieces of equipment that we greatly needed.
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One of them is a trauma first aid kit that every patrol
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officer will have in the patrol car.
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And especially with all the incidents occurring all over
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our nation, we want our officers to be able to have
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a kit that provides them immediate first aid.
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While the ambulance is on its way, we can provide them
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something that they can take care of themselves.
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So one of them is a kit, each one of these would be like this
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and it's got an Israeli bandage, which is one of the
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latest innovations in first aid where it clots the blood
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out of this.
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If an officer is wounded, you put this bandage and
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it automatically stops the bleeding.
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It's a great piece of equipment.
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And also we're buying these highly reflected top of the
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line reflective vests that our officers can wear while
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they're on the freeway, especially for the new DOT
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requirements, but also that you can imagine a few dangerous
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for our officers, especially at night.
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But I wanted to recognize the Halper family for the
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kindness of this gift and if it could come forward
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for the Mayor to...
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We too want to recognize you.
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You have been a...
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You and your family have been a pillar in our community
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for a very, very long time and your mom and dad were
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just wonderful, wonderful people.
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And it was such a gracious thing for her to do,
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to think of our police department.
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I know she loved the police department and this
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equipment will be much used.
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And I just want to personally thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, sir.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Chief.
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All right.
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Next will be public comment.
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Anyone wishing to make public comment, please come forward.
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State your name for the clerk and you have three minutes.
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That's it.
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Tom Abbott from Northwoods.
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A couple items I just wanted to bring to the attention.
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First of all, I'm sorry, Mayor of the council, good evening.
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But I wanted to bring the attention of the council
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members, mayor and city people.
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A couple things we need to start focusing on in our city.
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One is cleanliness.
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I walk, go, go a lot and it's dirty.
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It's just really a mess.
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We need to start trying to target our businesses
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or target but work with our businesses
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to clean things up.
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Our streets, if you go out to the intersection
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of Beaufort Highway and 285,
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it's really the entrance to our city
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and it's not the prettiest thing.
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And I know there was a period way back
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when I was not involved in some things here in Dorville.
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We had a chance to do something with the state
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that didn't happen.
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It might have been the best thing,
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but we need to look at what we have.
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If we don't have the money in any budget anywhere
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to spend the landscape that interchange,
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at least mow and take care of what's there
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and trim the shrubbages there
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and get in agreement with the state
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to be able to do that.
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There's concrete islands around the intersection.
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There's garbage, there's weeds going there.
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It just looks very, very unbecoming.
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I'm going to be working on a proposal.
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I don't have all the information yet.
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Something that would be,
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actually, we would be the first community
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in the entire Metro Atlanta to have it that interchange.
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After a little more investigating,
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I have to find out who I have to talk to
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at the Georgia Department of Transportation
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to get some information about it.
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If we can do it, we'll be the first.
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It would be awesome. It would be a great gateway
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as we redevelop the GM site.
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It would be fantastic for people to see this.
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So I'll be working on that.
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And then lastly, code enforcement.
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As you're all getting some emails from our now chairperson,
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if you will, of the Citizens of Progress,
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we seem to still have some serious issues
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with code enforcement in this city,
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repeat offenders, et cetera.
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We've got to clean up this city.
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I'm already seeing an interest as a real estate broker.
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People looking at our city already wanting to buy here
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because of what's happening.
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This is going to be the hottest location in Atlanta
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so let's get it cleaned up now while we have time.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr. Abbott.
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John Maloney, 35-22 Stuart Road.
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I'd like to speak about the black ordinance.
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I'd like to encourage you to pass it.
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If that helps you a little way with some of our buildings
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that we've been putting up with.
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I know the residents on Stuart Road
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has put up with the building for eight years
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that the city has done nothing about.
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And if this will help deal with that building,
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then I'm for you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr. Maloney.
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Anyone else?
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Linda Rollins, Oakland State.
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This is not really something
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that the city would have to do,
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but I'm wondering if the city could have some influence.
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Lately from watching the news,
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I've gotten real concerned about
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if my house caught on fire,
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do the fire have an impact?
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If it's caught on fire,
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do the fire hydrants work?
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There have been so many
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fires, especially apartment complexes,
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and they're chasing around
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trying to find fire hydrants
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that work.
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And I know we had a fire
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at the corner of Oak Cliff and Pinot,
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the house on English Oak.
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Hopefully the fire hydrants
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worked.
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But could the city have any influence
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or ask the cap county?
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I remember when I've seen
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a fire hydrant
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tested,
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and that's just been a deep concern
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of mine recently.
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Do our fire hydrants work?
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It would be very important if your house
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caught on fire.
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Thank you, Ms. Rollins.
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Those are valid concerns, and Dr. Gillan,
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I'm sure we can reach out
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and get that taken care of.
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Anyone else?
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Okay, we're going to close that portion
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here.
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Thank you, Mayor and Council members,
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and I will get on
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to get back in to see what they're
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ISP rating.
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That's the insurance service provider
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to be protesting
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and rate fire departments
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on the scale.
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The PATH Foundation
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is requesting a resolution
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supporting GDOT's incorporation
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as it invokes the 285
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and 400 entertainment redesign
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in the Georgia 400 Collective Distribute
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Projects that are hanging north
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from the Dadaway.
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PATH is seeking
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resolutions from the north to cab cities,
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the PCIDs,
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and the other local chambers.
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So basically they've given us
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a draft award notice, requesting city council
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to say
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that they're just going to support it.
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That just gives them support
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and efforts to do that.
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So this would be part of a very lengthy
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regional trail system
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and fits very well into our
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Parks and Trails Master Plan
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and planning that's going on.
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We're just giving you a free resolution. We're going to sign it and get it back to you in the process.
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Thank you. Is that all you said? Any questions?
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Ms. O'Connor? Yeah.
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Do we have any more information than this? And how are we, how will we be involved in it? Is there going to be money?
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No, ma'am, this is just a resolution of support. They're not asking for any financial contribution.
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They just want the regional jurisdictions to, say, they support the concept.
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Okay, no. They're not going to be looking for money?
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No.
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We'll be looking to them when we start to do our trail systems to make sure that our trail systems are interconnected to TV systems themselves.
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Okay. Mr. Patrick?
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What does the path stand for?
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I've only heard it referred to as the path foundation. And I've never seen what the act stands for, ma'am.
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I don't know the next paragraph.
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This is swimming?
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Well, two things. There's a couple of paragraphs that look like they're not finished.
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The first paragraph on the second page. And then the third paragraph on the second page. It looks, yeah, whatever.
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So I was just curious as to whether, what the completion of those sentences were.
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I don't know the answer to that question. We provided you with the document. They gave us the...
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Okay. The only...
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So I would like to support any efforts for other cities.
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And we did for the clover leaf for Ashford Dunwoody.
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This is going north of there. It's not... I don't think Dorival will be seeing any type of connector trails or pedestrian walkways or anything from 400 to Dorival.
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And if there's $1.05 billion available from the Georgia Department of Transportation, I'm wondering why Dorival didn't apply for some of these funds for our connectivity in Dorival.
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The $1.05 billion is the price tag on the new interchange, $485 billion. It's something that the PCIDs have been working on for many, many, many years.
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So that was a process that took a decade to get done. They knew it was a problem.
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Does there all the questions final?
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Again, I have... I mean, this is kind of given to us with incomplete paragraphs, and I'm not sure exactly what this plan is.
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I would have liked to have seen at least a copy of the plan so I could have some reference to what this is about.
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And it says something, Dorival supports complete streets projects. What is that exactly? What is the complete streets project?
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Complete streets is a concept of street design that includes bicycles and pedestrians.
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The design that the developer showed you of New Peachtree Road, and the original design of New Peachtree Road in the SCI plan is a complete street.
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It has a bike portrayal, pedestrian access, and it's more walk-up.
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So is that the only example? I mean, this... I'm not going to support this only because I don't know what this is and I don't have enough information on it,
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but there are a lot of things in here that pique my interest, including... because we don't have a lot of sidewalks in Dorival, period.
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And it's saying that we have this and we support this, and I see it on paper, but I don't see it in reality.
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And so, again, this is... I mean, this is just... this seems very...
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If you want to bring this back and perhaps give us an idea of what this plan is,
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because I would like to... I can't support this if I don't know what we're talking about.
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Well, I think the plan itself is simply what they're asking is for GDON to incorporate biking and pedestrian trails in this project.
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But it makes references here to plans that we don't really have.
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And again, we have paragraphs here that are... well, this paragraph, the first paragraph on page 3,
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it is the second layer addresses connectivity between the connected districts
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and transit villages with pedestrian walkways, comma, shuttle.
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And then it just ends with nothing.
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I mean, so I mean, that's what... this is pretty incomplete to ask for.
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We're just asking us to put this in front of you for the direction.
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Okay, okay.
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Okay, does anyone wish to entertain a motion?
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I would like to make a friendly request to have this, if we could,
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perhaps added to the meeting of the night, unless that agenda has already been published.
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Okay.
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And if we could get a completed resolution, just email the path
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and ask them what the rest of the verbiage is supposed to be on that paragraph.
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And if they have any... I don't know if they have any overlays in mind
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or anything regarding this.
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I mean, I understand they're just asking for consideration on GDAS design
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is to also just make it pedestrian and bicycle friendly too.
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And I think connectivity is definitely something that we need to look forward to the future
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for connecting our very large project with neighboring cities.
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So if I could make a request to put this on the agenda for the night.
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Sandra, this is going to be number two under reports and presentations.
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If you could please move that to the night.
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Then Dr. Gillins, if you could come up with additional information, please.
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I'm exactly going to have to send us a completed resolution.
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Thank you so much.
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All righty.
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There is no public hearings.
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Unfinished business.
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The mid-year budget amendment.
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Second read.
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Ms. Ferguson, Dr. Gillins.
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Okay, Elise is on her way up.
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She walked us through the highlights last time.
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Thank you.
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The budget amendment does make some changes to the budget.
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One of the significant ones was the building of the permit.
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The permitting.
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Added funding to accommodate the increase in building permit inspections.
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Again, the revenues have increased.
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We've now seen as much revenue in six months as we did the entire year last year.
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So we have to adjust the expenditure budget to match that.
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The budget has to balance.
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It doesn't necessarily mean you'll expend those dollars.
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It just means the budget has to balance.
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In aggregate, the overall budget amendment decreases the annual budget by $37,000.
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Ms. Sandler.
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Any questions, Mayor?
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Ms. O'Connor.
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Yeah.
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On the general fund.
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Tell me again about the insurance premium tax.
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The $127,000, what does that figure represent?
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Insurance premium tax is what the insurers pay in lieu of occupational tax.
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Okay.
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So they get a $50 permit from us and then they report their gross sales or gross receipts
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and we're having to the insurance commissioner and they pay insurance premium tax.
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And then the insurance commissioner divvies all that money up to the local governments once a year.
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Okay.
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And I saw in a couple of places that this one grant, federal grant has ended.
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Is that what this figure is here under federal government grants?
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Yes.
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We had a pop's grant for two officers.
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Okay.
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We got an extension and one of them ran out and so we're reducing the amount of grant money
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that we're going to get this year because we didn't have a firm date on when it was going to run out
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when we did the budget originally.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Thank you.
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No question.
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No question.
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Item number 12, capital projects.
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I believe all my other questions were answered at the previous meeting.
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But I'd like to question the defunding of project 061 because it was included in the current year budget
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even though it was completed and paid for within the prior year.
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Yes.
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What was 061?
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It was the roof of the courthouse.
[24:01]
Okay.
[24:03]
I'd like to know in this budget, and though I was not able to locate it as I was not intently,
[24:12]
but just rummaging through the proposed, where is it located for pothole repair?
[24:24]
Where do we have monies allocated for pothole repair?
[24:28]
Or any monies allocated for pothole repair that would affect the entire city,
[24:37]
both residents, businesses, passerbys, commuting people?
[24:45]
We don't have money specifically for pothole repair.
[24:50]
We have some paving money that can be used for pothole repair if you want to do that.
[24:56]
It would still be under the paving bracket.
[24:59]
We did not use all of the paving money this year.
[25:07]
Is that the capital fund?
[25:09]
It's in the capital projects fund, local resources.
[25:22]
I thought the LMA was only for paving and not pothole repair.
[25:28]
What we did was we took the LMA money and we put our match with it,
[25:33]
and then we added additional dollars to that.
[25:36]
So it wouldn't technically be the LMA money.
[25:40]
All the LMA money has been spent.
[25:42]
So there's about $50,000 left in that project that can be used for potholes this year,
[25:48]
or it can be carried over to increase what we pay next year.
[25:53]
Okay.
[25:54]
It's entirely up to your choice.
[25:57]
Dr. Gillan, if we're not going to address pothole repair in our budget,
[26:04]
then we need to capitalize on DeKalb County.
[26:07]
And the roads have become extremely bad to the point of unsafe for all of us.
[26:15]
We've been doing the R&P for pothole repair.
[26:17]
Can you tell me what the final effect on that?
[26:20]
How many times has it been done?
[26:23]
And then we'll be bringing it to the council for approval using those dollars.
[26:28]
Do you realize how many times that's been said that we're going out for bid for pothole repair?
[26:36]
Right.
[26:37]
And now we're going out for pothole repair again.
[26:40]
Okay, so please do.
[26:42]
All right.
[26:44]
Christine.
[26:46]
That is, in fact, we received, some of us received an email today because there is,
[26:50]
it's not even a pothole.
[26:52]
It's just a huge cavern on Chestnut.
[26:56]
And it's huge.
[26:58]
It's massive.
[26:59]
And that's something that definitely needs to be repaired.
[27:02]
And when I look at that, and I look at some of these costs,
[27:05]
like $100,000 for a parks walkability master plan.
[27:09]
I mean, while that's nice, there are things in the city that need
[27:12]
and require immediate attention and repair because it is so big now,
[27:16]
it's potentially car damaging.
[27:19]
The Chestnut is a stormwater issue with a sinkhole.
[27:23]
And we were having the same cereal was taken going out to take a look at that.
[27:28]
At Aztec?
[27:29]
Chestnut and Aztec?
[27:30]
I have to double check.
[27:32]
I know they were going to look at one sinkhole today.
[27:35]
Well, that's even worse.
[27:36]
I mean, that's a bigger issue because that means a lot more.
[27:39]
Well, that's the stormwater.
[27:41]
Fun.
[27:43]
Right.
[27:44]
I mean, but right now, I mean, because I know the one on Jess Norman,
[27:47]
there's that the metal plate on top of it.
[27:51]
Right.
[27:52]
And so these are a lot more costly than just potholes.
[27:55]
In any event, whatever it is, again,
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we're looking at $100,000 for walks walkability master plan
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when our roads are caving in, which is a big issue.
[28:05]
I mean, that's a huge issue for me.
[28:07]
It's incredible.
[28:09]
And the library renovation.
[28:11]
I mean, I think that that's great.
[28:12]
And we can talk about that with a couple plans.
[28:14]
But I also, I have a lot of concerns with the budget just based on the lack
[28:21]
of department heads in the city.
[28:23]
And have we funded for that?
[28:25]
And are we going out for these positions?
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I mean, just to see how things operate overall.
[28:32]
Well, we don't have.
[28:33]
Okay.
[28:34]
Well, we don't have anyone in charge of stormwater now.
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We're contracting services with Keck and Wood.
[28:40]
Right.
[28:41]
Compliance issues we have with the state and the contractor
[28:43]
and the clerk personally at the end of the stormwater issues
[28:45]
in the house, the permitting process in the house.
[28:47]
So all the tasks that Steve and we're doing.
[28:49]
Right.
[28:50]
So we're contracting everything out.
[28:52]
And that's something that.
[28:53]
Stormwater, yes.
[28:54]
Okay.
[28:55]
Well, stormwater and code enforcement.
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And we have, we have one guy heading parks and recreation
[29:01]
and maintenance.
[29:02]
We have one person heading the finance department and HR.
[29:06]
We have the chief of police and we have the head of the library.
[29:10]
And those are the four department heads we have working
[29:14]
for the city directly.
[29:15]
Right.
[29:16]
We'll be hiring a community development director over the next several months.
[29:20]
Okay.
[29:21]
All right.
[29:22]
Okay.
[29:23]
Yeah.
[29:24]
I'm good.
[29:25]
Right.
[29:26]
Does anyone wish to entertain a motion?
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I make a motion that we approve the mid-year budget amendment.
[29:31]
Do I get a second?
[29:35]
Second.
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Okay.
[29:38]
Discussion.
[29:40]
Call the roll please.
[29:41]
Because I remember Alexander.
[29:42]
Yes.
[29:43]
Because I'm Dean.
[29:44]
No.
[29:45]
Because I'm Fleming.
[29:46]
Yes.
[29:47]
Because I'm Patrick.
[29:48]
Yes.
[29:49]
Because I'm Connor.
[29:50]
No.
[29:51]
Because I'm Spangler.
[29:52]
No.
[29:53]
Yes.
[29:56]
Okay.
[29:57]
We're going to move into the blight ordinance.
[29:59]
Okay.
[30:00]
Right.
[30:00]
I'm sorry, Kathy, one food.
[30:01]
Okay.
[30:02]
Yes.
[30:03]
Okay.
[30:04]
Thank you.
[30:05]
Second order, please.
[30:06]
Okay and turn left this boat away direct to right.
[30:07]
Thank you.
[30:08]
Do we have a corridor that I think is part of the强たit network
[30:10]
We're requesting this direction as the running council would like to go with the Kathy Bruma
[30:13]
plan, and in that vein we would like to discuss with the council the scheduling of a retreat
[30:18]
without any discussed schedule or anything. We just haven't settled the retreat. We would
[30:23]
need to discuss how long the time frame that would be, what time of day it would be, what
[30:27]
day of the week, or days of the week it would be. So that's what we're here to input, and
[30:34]
also any additional information to require, prior to that.
[30:39]
Do you have any suggested dates, Dr. Gillum?
[30:42]
Well, I mean, whatever, if you want to do a Monday, you know, we have the three Mondays
[30:47]
that are coming up after the 16th, the 23rd, and then here in March after that.
[30:56]
Sally's energy.
[30:58]
So you're, because we did our sale.
[31:03]
So what exactly are you looking for?
[31:06]
We didn't get responses from everybody on that.
[31:09]
So we'd like everybody in the room to be able to talk about the capital plan itself,
[31:13]
and basically we break it into two separate pieces, capital items and capital projects.
[31:18]
Capital projects, basically heating and storm water that are coming up in the year,
[31:22]
the big projects, and then other things like smaller items.
[31:27]
They hit the capital item threshold, but they're not made of capital.
[31:31]
So we can keep them separate so we can have a discussion and lay out your priorities
[31:35]
for how those expenditures are made throughout the year, and then those will be brought back to you
[31:39]
individually to be approved throughout the year as they get left.
[31:44]
Ms. O'Connor?
[31:46]
Well, we're going to try to come up with a date.
[31:49]
I'm very flexible, so it's according to, you know, the schedule for those who work.
[31:54]
Okay.
[32:00]
February would be easier for me than March.
[32:03]
I'll be available all the Mondays and February, including the 16th, maybe.
[32:08]
I would have to check and see if we were going to consider doing a Saturday.
[32:14]
But I'll be as flexible as I can.
[32:16]
Tuesdays and Thursdays, probably Tuesdays and Wednesdays are going to be difficult for me.
[32:20]
I've got other family commitments that are in place.
[32:25]
Any day but Wednesday.
[32:31]
Well, I see that this, to me, would be more than a two or three hour meeting.
[32:38]
It could be, yes, ma'am.
[32:40]
So, I'm flexible.
[32:49]
I'll just make that comment because even though we've set dates and years that we plan on doing it,
[32:57]
we need to reevaluate that as well that's already in print because there may be some that need to be put forth sooner than,
[33:09]
then later.
[33:10]
So, it's not just the ones that we're adding for 17, 18.
[33:15]
We need to be looking at the whole thing to determine.
[33:17]
Five-year capital plan.
[33:19]
Right.
[33:20]
Any of those items, year five to year one, if you desire to, then let's go to the launch.
[33:25]
So, I think there's a lot of in-depth decision making that we need to do.
[33:33]
So, I'm flexible.
[33:35]
I'll just make that comment.
[33:36]
And if it happens to be on a Saturday the 14th or 21st, those are fine.
[33:42]
But I would have to do it in the afternoon.
[33:47]
I, again, and I absolutely thrilled that we are going to have a retreat to discuss these things
[33:55]
because this council has not yet had the opportunity to talk about these items.
[34:00]
And so, there might be some question as to what they even are and how they would or would not benefit the city.
[34:05]
So, I think this is a great thing that we're doing.
[34:08]
Having said that, I will, I'm available February 16th.
[34:13]
I am not going to be available for the two weeks following that date.
[34:18]
So, if it's not the 16th, if it's after the 16th of February, then I would prefer it to be in March.
[34:28]
Okay, Dr. Gillan, maybe you could pick some dates and let's see where we go with it.
[34:34]
I would rather nail it down.
[34:37]
Do y'all want to do an all-day Saturday retreat?
[34:41]
And how does that, and clearly, I know Christine wants to be involved in that.
[34:45]
So, possibly do it after she is back.
[34:49]
Is the 16th a holiday?
[34:51]
Yes.
[34:54]
So, Christine will be out through February, and I know March is hard for you.
[35:01]
So, maybe look at March, possibly April, so everyone can be involved.
[35:05]
Well, I can do it. I can do it the 16th of February.
[35:07]
I mean, after the 19th, I'm going to be unavailable for a couple of weeks.
[35:12]
That's a positive statement.
[35:14]
Yeah.
[35:16]
Well, I don't want to take people away from their loved ones on Valentine's Day.
[35:21]
No.
[35:23]
I got a cat. It don't matter to me.
[35:26]
Just try to be considerate about the weekend.
[35:31]
So, how do y'all feel about that Monday, the President's Day?
[35:35]
I'm good.
[35:37]
Oh, you're not going to be here?
[35:39]
Okay.
[35:41]
So, let's move into March, then.
[35:44]
I am not available any of March.
[35:47]
March is off.
[35:49]
Okay. Not even on Saturdays?
[35:51]
Not even on Saturdays.
[35:52]
Okay.
[35:53]
My wife is working with Ebola response, so I will not be available.
[35:56]
How about the first, around the first of April, first week in April or something?
[36:02]
Let's move into that.
[36:06]
Well, in that case, that buys us some time.
[36:08]
I'll get you some dates.
[36:10]
Okay.
[36:12]
Okay, so from April.
[36:13]
I'll also not suggest a date today.
[36:15]
Okay, so April first on, please.
[36:18]
Okay.
[36:19]
Could you please tell me where we are on the Halpern Park renovation?
[36:22]
It's been eight years.
[36:24]
Not for the both of you, but it's been eight years for me.
[36:27]
March 16th?
[36:32]
March, I call.
[36:33]
March?
[36:34]
March 16th?
[36:36]
That's Rick Robertson.
[36:38]
It gets out to me.
[36:41]
They're not back in yet.
[36:43]
Right.
[36:44]
So, I think my memory serves.
[36:47]
March 16th, council, the bid will come to you for approval.
[36:51]
So, that construction can be done.
[36:53]
Just a quick question.
[36:55]
I thought it said in here that we have to have the comprehensive plan bids back in
[36:59]
and begun by July of this year.
[37:03]
So, are we jamming ourselves up by pushing it back to April?
[37:08]
I mean, is there...
[37:10]
We're going to begin working on RFP for you,
[37:12]
prior to approving the COD.
[37:14]
Okay.
[37:15]
We're going to have to bring an RFP for that,
[37:17]
and have to be part of the COD.
[37:18]
We're going to have to make that decision ahead of us.
[37:20]
Okay.
[37:22]
Alrighty.
[37:23]
Okay, thank you.
[37:24]
Anything to say one more thing before we close this out?
[37:26]
Sure.
[37:28]
If there are projects that y'all want more information about,
[37:31]
you'll let me know now so that I can get with the department heads
[37:34]
to find more information for you,
[37:37]
because I don't really know what else to give you.
[37:41]
I don't have a lot of information,
[37:43]
but if you will tell me what you need,
[37:45]
I will be happy to get with the people that submitted the request
[37:49]
and see how they can get the information they want.
[37:52]
Thank you.
[37:53]
So, Council could respectfully send any questions,
[37:56]
comments or suggestions to Dr. Gillan and Ms. Ferguson.
[38:00]
That would be much appreciated.
[38:02]
Do you want to email the comments or do you want the comments now?
[38:05]
If you can email the comments,
[38:07]
we can get a call together one side.
[38:10]
Okay.
[38:12]
For me, it's hard for me to make a decision on whether it's,
[38:16]
like I said before, the CIP to me is a wish list.
[38:21]
Yes.
[38:22]
And so without the communication between the directors and us,
[38:28]
face to face so that I can get some idea of whether it's a need,
[38:33]
whether they can wait or just a want,
[38:38]
then it's hard for me to say, okay,
[38:41]
well, I'm going to scratch off the tiling of the bathrooms.
[38:45]
You know what I mean?
[38:46]
I mean, I don't know what condition.
[38:48]
Anyway, so I'm just making that as a comment.
[38:51]
Well, could the directors be present?
[38:54]
I'm requiring them to be present.
[38:57]
Okay.
[38:58]
All right.
[38:59]
All right.
[39:00]
Thank you.
[39:01]
Thank you, Ms. Ferguson.
[39:02]
And we will next move into the Blight Ordinance.
[39:05]
Cecil and Dr. Gillan.
[39:07]
Second reading on the Blight Ordinance.
[39:08]
As you know, this is an ordinance that reads a property
[39:12]
that's provided under the conditions laid out in the ordinance.
[39:16]
The tax rate on that, the city's portion of the tax rate
[39:19]
on that property will increase seven times.
[39:22]
This is for vacated properties.
[39:26]
This can't be it for anyone's primary residence.
[39:28]
So someone can't be living here.
[39:30]
This is for abandoned properties or commercial properties
[39:33]
that are blighted.
[39:35]
So that's just another tool we're looking forward to deal with
[39:39]
some of the issues that we're having in the city.
[39:43]
And then through the budget process,
[39:45]
we can discuss our regular process of condemnation
[39:50]
and demolition of structures.
[39:52]
But that takes funding.
[39:53]
We're going to get the money back right away
[39:56]
and get that back to the state of the property.
[39:58]
And that takes a long time.
[40:00]
So this is just another tool to encourage the property owners
[40:03]
to clean it up themselves.
[40:05]
All right.
[40:06]
Do you have anything you want to add, Mr. McClelland?
[40:08]
I'm going to make this a guest ordinance.
[40:10]
I think we talked about it, but if there are any questions,
[40:12]
I'd be happy to address them.
[40:14]
Thank you.
[40:15]
Ms. Allison?
[40:16]
I just want to make sure the typo that we mentioned last time
[40:18]
is corrected.
[40:20]
Should we resolve?
[40:21]
Because it wasn't under the where-ask.
[40:26]
The city budget instead of budget?
[40:29]
Well, I'm certainly not sure.
[40:33]
It wasn't fixed on our copy in our agenda packet,
[40:35]
that's why I was asking.
[40:39]
Is this a card?
[40:40]
Yeah, I was thinking of that, too.
[40:42]
And there was something else strange, too.
[40:44]
I forgot about what that was,
[40:46]
but it was like six people who had to do something.
[40:48]
And the five residents?
[40:49]
Yeah, five, something.
[40:51]
Where was that?
[40:52]
I lost it.
[40:53]
What do you have to mention?
[40:55]
I didn't have that provision.
[40:57]
That's basically the provision
[40:59]
I was talking about from this moment
[41:01]
of starting a petition
[41:04]
for a provided property.
[41:07]
And what it basically does is it reveals on it
[41:11]
it is on page seven of sixteen
[41:13]
in the right at the top.
[41:15]
And what it's talking about
[41:18]
is sort of how you move forward
[41:19]
if you're going to inspect the property
[41:21]
and read the inspection report.
[41:23]
And the inspection report is the document
[41:25]
where you go in and look at a property
[41:27]
to say, yes, this is blighted or it is not blighted.
[41:30]
And in that provision, it basically says
[41:32]
that the public officer, which is the city manager,
[41:35]
can instigate that on his own.
[41:38]
There's no need for additional people.
[41:40]
But it does require that if it's going to be
[41:43]
based upon the residents
[41:45]
or a case of a complaint by citizens,
[41:47]
you need at least five.
[41:49]
So I think what they're doing with that
[41:51]
and this ordinance is very closely modern
[41:53]
in the state law.
[41:55]
What they're to say with that is
[41:57]
we're not going to have this be, you know,
[41:59]
if somebody shows up and sends them out
[42:01]
to inspect their neighbor's property.
[42:03]
It has to be reported by five people
[42:05]
to sort of reach the threshold of saying
[42:07]
it's a community issue.
[42:10]
But if there is a property,
[42:12]
there's no need to wait for five people
[42:14]
because the city manager owns this ordinance
[42:16]
or to start that process to any property,
[42:19]
not a community city.
[42:21]
Theoretically, so we can find about a property.
[42:24]
The city manager can stamp with that.
[42:26]
But yeah, that's a huge issue.
[42:28]
There's no need to wait for five people.
[42:30]
But if five people complain
[42:32]
and the homeowner says,
[42:34]
or the property owner says,
[42:36]
oh, no, that's not true,
[42:38]
is there some kind of objective way
[42:40]
of determining whether or not
[42:42]
that was a valid complaint or not?
[42:45]
This is only the process
[42:47]
that we'll go out and look at.
[42:49]
So if five people complain theoretically,
[42:51]
we would go out and look.
[42:53]
The ordinance says if five people complain,
[42:55]
we're going to go look.
[42:57]
But once that process starts,
[42:59]
that's only the beginning.
[43:01]
At that point there's a survey that's done by staff
[43:03]
and the building inspector goes out
[43:05]
and looks at the property assesses it
[43:07]
towards the factors that would show
[43:09]
it is a blind property.
[43:11]
If you saw the buzzer in the ordinance
[43:13]
but it's criminal activity,
[43:15]
the advance in code violations,
[43:17]
but the ventilation systems aren't working.
[43:21]
At that point,
[43:23]
the city has to make that inspection report.
[43:26]
And only upon reviewing it,
[43:28]
the WM said, yes,
[43:29]
we believe that meets the criteria
[43:31]
of being a blind property.
[43:33]
Then that recommendation is made
[43:35]
for the city manager.
[43:36]
The city manager reviews it,
[43:37]
says yes, I agree with that report
[43:39]
that it's a blind property.
[43:41]
It's reported to the council
[43:43]
and served on the property area.
[43:45]
So there's a huge step
[43:47]
between the initiation of the complaint
[43:49]
and the actual finding of a blind property.
[43:52]
Okay.
[43:53]
All right.
[43:54]
Mr. Potter, do you have anything else?
[43:56]
No.
[43:57]
Is there anything else?
[43:58]
No.
[43:59]
Mr. Patrick?
[44:00]
No.
[44:01]
I would like to know what the legal process
[44:03]
is for condemnation
[44:05]
and demolition by the city.
[44:07]
What you have is that could be a different process.
[44:10]
The city can condemn property.
[44:12]
Just the building inspector has the authority
[44:14]
to go out.
[44:15]
And it's set out
[44:17]
in the International Property Maintenance Code,
[44:20]
but it's also an inherent power of the city.
[44:22]
I think I often say,
[44:24]
this place is too dangerous
[44:26]
for anyone to inhabit.
[44:28]
That's actually a very sobering process.
[44:30]
We make that determination.
[44:32]
We post it.
[44:33]
It's a police power,
[44:34]
and we can do that.
[44:36]
Nobody goes in here except to repair it
[44:39]
to make it safe again.
[44:41]
The hearing it down,
[44:43]
it goes through the nuisance process.
[44:46]
And basically what you would do is
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if a property were in an abandoned,
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derelict condition,
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you could go in under the nuisance ordinance
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and say,
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this property is for a lot of the same reasons
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that you have the blight.
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This property is a public nuisance, and it creates a burden on our city, et cetera.
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And under that ordinance, you move through almost really a similar property of determining, declaring it as a nuisance.
[45:14]
You go through a court process where you find it's a nuisance.
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The owners have an ability to kind of challenge that. It's not a nuisance.
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You go through the court process, and once you finalize the court process,
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you can move into a process where you would demolish it, and if you follow the entire nuisance process,
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upon demolition, you can take those demolition costs and put it as a lien against the property.
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So in the future, whenever it was sold, the first thing they had to do would be pay you back the cost to tear that down.
[45:46]
Different set of ordinances, but we do have nuisance ordinances that we can do that.
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So how long sort of in your best estimate would it take to condemn a piece of property,
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go through all of that system, and then the nuisance order ordinance,
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and go through all of that before we get to approval to demolish the location?
[46:16]
It depends if somebody comes in with an armies and they start fighting you every step of the way in appealing.
[46:25]
We found it was a nuisance. No, it wasn't a nuisance.
[46:28]
Let's go to the spirit court and litigate over whether it was a nuisance.
[46:32]
It could be a process, frankly. It can be an expensive process because the legal fees involved in it.
[46:40]
So any court action that you would get involved in that, it depends.
[46:45]
It depends on your judge, it depends on how significant the opposition is with the bringing in parties.
[46:52]
It could easily be a template.
[46:54]
Okay, I'm going to ask a question, and if it's a privileged question, please get back to me later on.
[47:01]
Have we filed any type of legal remedy, whether it be condemnation or nuisance, for the Star Towers property?
[47:14]
I'd like to discuss any particular property.
[47:17]
All through record. That's fine. Thank you.
[47:21]
Yes, I was going to say that Mr. Maloney and I know of a property that could use little condemnation.
[47:28]
Have we spoken to DeKalb County, or is there any interest? This came to the Council before, and it was on the agenda.
[47:36]
I put it on the agenda a while ago.
[47:38]
I met with DeKalb County about the foreclosure and vacant property registry that has been phenomenally successful.
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It is not only paying for itself, but they are making so much from that program that they are able to grow and develop it.
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And I'm just wondering, I've suggested that we talk with DeKalb.
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I've spoken with them, and I can meet with them again, but I think that just based on the success that DeKalb County has had,
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it might be something for us to pursue, particularly given the number of vacant properties we have in Doorville.
[48:18]
We've been currently developing a vacant property database, but we do have no registration requirement for vacant property.
[48:27]
But we're building a database of all the vacant properties in the city limits.
[48:32]
Well, the difference is that if you have a registry and you make them register, then it holds them accountable,
[48:38]
because apparently the biggest thing is finding the property owners.
[48:41]
Even when they go into foreclosure, the banks don't want it well known because they don't want to be responsible for the property
[48:47]
or any damage that may result as a result of it being vacant.
[48:52]
So that's something that, I mean, this is something different from just a database of what the properties are.
[48:58]
They're actually holding those property owners accountable for the upkeep of that property.
[49:04]
And it's something entirely, if you would like me to give you information, I can send you information.
[49:11]
And I've invited a couple of council people to meet with DeKalb County because they were, and they have the system in place.
[49:18]
So for Dorville, it would simply be attaching Dorville to the system that they have in place and then an initial cost and then whatever it is.
[49:27]
But again, they have made so much money on it.
[49:30]
And at the same time, they've cleaned up their city or their county really, really well.
[49:35]
But that might be something that we should at least investigate.
[49:41]
That would be fine. Please do.
[49:43]
Okay, okay.
[49:45]
Alrighty, is this the second rate?
[49:49]
Just to confirm, for the record.
[49:52]
Okay, anyone wishing to entertain a motion?
[49:54]
I make a motion to approve the bite ordinance with the one change correcting the word budge to budget.
[50:02]
Second?
[50:03]
Second.
[50:04]
Discussion?
[50:05]
Call the roll please.
[50:06]
November Alexander?
[50:07]
Yes.
[50:08]
Gunther E?
[50:09]
Yes.
[50:10]
Gunther Clemming?
[50:11]
Yes.
[50:12]
Gunther Tangler?
[50:13]
Yes.
[50:14]
Thank you, motion carries.
[50:15]
Thank you, Mr. McClendon.
[50:16]
All right, next, new business, 2015 pool services.
[50:20]
Clive, good to come up here.
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Here's the pool contract.
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No big deal.
[50:27]
Good evening.
[50:28]
Happy Groundhog Day.
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I bring to you the agreement for the 2015 swim season with Sears Pool Management.
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They're out of Sandy Springs.
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Their proposal is very similar to all the rest of them.
[50:47]
But they're middle of the pack when it comes to pricing.
[50:51]
Their references are very, very good, not just in their customers,
[50:57]
but also I talked to several suppliers and trainers,
[51:04]
and they all speak very highly of Sears Pool Management.
[51:08]
Ms. Alexander?
[51:09]
Any questions?
[51:10]
No, I guess this is exciting that we're giving somebody else a chance,
[51:15]
I think, because we've heard some concerns we had about the lifeguard staffing,
[51:20]
and I think it's something extremely important,
[51:22]
because safety needs to be concern number one.
[51:25]
Thank you.
[51:26]
Ms. O'Connor?
[51:27]
Yes, I have some questions.
[51:29]
I'm glad to see we've got another pool company that we're looking at.
[51:34]
I read their proposal,
[51:39]
and it says that they'll supply three to four lifeguards plus a manager.
[51:44]
So will they have someone who will collect the fees for us?
[51:48]
We will still have that.
[51:51]
Now, another thing that we discussed last year,
[51:54]
I think you and I talked about it,
[51:56]
and that is the concession stand.
[51:59]
Are we going to have a concession stand?
[52:01]
Yes, ma'am.
[52:03]
And we're going to have it stocked with snacks and things?
[52:07]
We're going to have machines.
[52:09]
That's what we're going to do.
[52:10]
We're going to use utilized machines.
[52:12]
Okay.
[52:13]
There's a soft drink machine there currently,
[52:16]
but it doesn't have any soft drinks in it.
[52:18]
That's correct.
[52:19]
So are we going to then stock those machines?
[52:24]
No, ma'am.
[52:25]
I've got a vendor that's going to come in and place a soda machine and a snack machine.
[52:31]
Okay.
[52:33]
I also read through, of course, we've discussed this before, too.
[52:38]
There's a period of time when school closes,
[52:40]
but they're still a month before the pool officially closes, I think.
[52:44]
It's like August 7th.
[52:46]
Will they keep the pool clean?
[52:50]
It still gets dirty.
[52:52]
In their proposal, I believe they said twice a week they'll be out.
[52:56]
Okay.
[52:57]
During that period.
[52:58]
Okay.
[52:59]
So are we thinking, what about the water aerobics?
[53:03]
Are we thinking that we will have the water aerobics?
[53:06]
That's not part of their proposal, ma'am.
[53:09]
Okay.
[53:10]
Once school is back in, all the weekly activity will cease.
[53:16]
So that'll be it, but they'll clean the pool?
[53:19]
Yes, ma'am.
[53:20]
So then we'll just let our residents know that the water aerobics will officially end on August 7th?
[53:25]
Yes, ma'am.
[53:26]
I believe that's where the date is in here.
[53:36]
It's on the H10.
[53:46]
And I'll just write it today.
[53:48]
I will, too.
[53:49]
Let's see.
[53:52]
Yes.
[53:56]
Yes, August 7th, yes, ma'am.
[54:04]
And the lifeguards are under the supervision of the pool company?
[54:10]
Yes, ma'am.
[54:11]
And they will be, I mean, I did read that they were, you know, with their credentials that they'll all be trained and everything,
[54:17]
but I know that this year we'll make sure that we have people who wear their swimsuits
[54:23]
and are sitting there and not working hot.
[54:27]
Okay.
[54:28]
Thank you.
[54:29]
Thank you.
[54:30]
Mr. Patrick?
[54:31]
No questions.
[54:32]
No questions.
[54:33]
Fleming?
[54:34]
I didn't see where that, and maybe I misunderstood you, Mr. Robertson,
[54:37]
but I don't believe it's the contractor's responsibility to take care of our furniture for us.
[54:44]
It is such a part of the opening procedures.
[55:05]
Well, yes, it says cleaning the furniture and arranging it properly.
[55:08]
Right.
[55:09]
They are required to come in and clean it and place it prior to opening.
[55:14]
Is that each opening or the date of opening?
[55:17]
That's prior to opening day, yes, ma'am.
[55:20]
But they're going to come every single day and clean the furniture and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
[55:25]
No, ma'am.
[55:26]
They will clean it after when we pull it out of storage.
[55:28]
They will clean it and prepare it and get it ready for the season.
[55:32]
And then it is their requirement to keep the area clean on a daily basis.
[55:38]
Yes, ma'am.
[55:39]
It is.
[55:40]
Yes, ma'am.
[55:47]
So we won't have any damaged umbrellas this year?
[55:53]
I hope not.
[55:54]
I mean, unfortunately there are storms that come through and tear those things up.
[55:59]
You know, because truly, I mean, we purchased the furniture.
[56:05]
And one would think that our employee, that's a dedicated employee that's there,
[56:11]
should make sure that all of our equipment is stored properly by the end of the day.
[56:19]
Yes, ma'am.
[56:20]
We will ensure that.
[56:21]
Not the contractor being the lifeguards on duty.
[56:28]
I, you know, do you understand, hopefully understand where I'm coming from?
[56:32]
Yes, ma'am.
[56:33]
I mean, is it going to be the contractor?
[56:34]
I mean, when, if I happen to see any damaged furniture, are we going to go to Sears Pool Service
[56:43]
or and say, you need to replace these umbrellas because you didn't take them down at night?
[56:49]
Or, you know, tell me.
[56:51]
If we conclude that they were negligent in handling that, yes, ma'am, I will.
[56:56]
Okay.
[56:57]
Yes.
[57:02]
Now, this issue came up kind of accidentally or I was made aware of it kind of accidentally
[57:09]
because we were paying for a saltwater system in the past,
[57:13]
or they told us we were paying for a saltwater system.
[57:16]
And I believe he told us that we weren't.
[57:19]
It was a chlorine system because we didn't have the capacity to have a saltwater system,
[57:24]
yet it was more costly and the city was paying for it according to our contract.
[57:29]
So has that been cleared up?
[57:31]
And are we now good with chlorine or if it is saltwater, do we have that system in place?
[57:39]
Yes, ma'am.
[57:40]
Apparently the saltwater system was removed prior to me arriving.
[57:43]
I never knew that there was a saltwater system there.
[57:46]
Okay.
[57:47]
Because it was a big deal.
[57:48]
It was a very big deal.
[57:49]
But it is, it is a chlorinated pool.
[57:51]
Okay.
[57:52]
Okay.
[57:53]
Anyone wish to entertain a motion to approve the contract for Sears?
[58:00]
Make information that we accept the annual municipal pool services proposal from Sears
[58:07]
pools contingent upon legal approving the contract.
[58:10]
So we'll call it a hangover discussion.
[58:12]
Okay.
[58:13]
Do I get a second?
[58:14]
Second.
[58:15]
Discussion?
[58:16]
Mm-hmm.
[58:17]
It's okay.
[58:18]
Oh, I was just going to say who will be the city employee,
[58:21]
who will be there on a daily basis.
[58:23]
I haven't hired them yet.
[58:25]
I will put it back out.
[58:26]
But if Rosaria is available, I will certainly have him back.
[58:30]
Okay.
[58:31]
And he'll be there every day.
[58:32]
He will be one of them, yes ma'am.
[58:34]
Okay.
[58:35]
Okay.
[58:36]
All the role, please?
[58:37]
Yes.
[58:38]
Council Member Alexander?
[58:39]
Yes.
[58:40]
Councilor Raheem?
[58:41]
Yes.
[58:42]
Councilor Clemming?
[58:43]
Yes.
[58:44]
Councilor Patrach?
[58:45]
Yes.
[58:46]
Councilor Conner?
[58:47]
Yes.
[58:48]
Councilor Spangler?
[58:49]
Yes.
[58:50]
No comments.
[58:51]
However, John not to put you on the spot.
[58:53]
And Dr. Gillan, if you don't mind,
[58:55]
there's been some Council Members that missed his introduction.
[58:57]
Do you mind John coming up and saying a few words to us?
[59:01]
I don't mind.
[59:02]
I know he didn't prepare to speak.
[59:04]
But just for that.
[59:05]
That's why I'm always here.
[59:07]
Hold on.
[59:10]
Sorry, John.
[59:11]
You can get me later.
[59:12]
John is here tonight.
[59:13]
As you know, Connie is leaving us.
[59:15]
And next week, Sandra is going for a 17th meeting.
[59:19]
Sandra is going to be gone.
[59:20]
So John is going to be filling in.
[59:21]
He is gracious enough to take that task on for us.
[59:24]
I appreciate that.
[59:27]
You're doing an outstanding job.
[59:28]
And I apologize for putting you on the spot.
[59:30]
However, there was a couple of Council Members that missed your
[59:32]
introduction.
[59:33]
So if you'll just introduce yourself for us, please.
[59:35]
All right.
[59:36]
Well, my name is John Hutchins.
[59:38]
Started here September the 2nd.
[59:40]
Previously from CNN.
[59:42]
I've been with CNN for about 15 years.
[59:44]
Before that, Air Force.
[59:46]
About another almost 10 years there.
[59:48]
So you definitely caught me off guard.
[59:50]
I was just making a speech.
[59:51]
That's okay.
[59:52]
I do apologize, guys.
[59:53]
But while you're here, we might not see you.
[59:55]
We went to a lot of impressive.
[59:57]
We were really impressed with the training we had
[59:59]
in those students.
[1:00:00]
Accounting training was done through the military accounting training programs, but it fit everything
[1:00:04]
we were trying to do and his availability was great and he's been doing a great job taking
[1:00:09]
a lot of the burden off of Santa and addressing those key issues you all saw in the audit.
[1:00:15]
So next year we'd like to see those issues go on.
[1:00:18]
And he's a great multitasker. He works the window perfectly.
[1:00:21]
He's been really stepped up to the plate during the official tax trip. He's a process
[1:00:24]
and we appreciate that. He's a team player and he's done a lot for us.
[1:00:29]
We thank you for that very, very much. Thank you.
[1:00:32]
Thank you so much.
[1:00:33]
You all will be so hard on me a little bit.
[1:00:35]
Thank you.
[1:00:37]
Ms. Alexander, do you have any comment?
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Uh, Namir? Ms. O'Connor?
[1:00:43]
No.
[1:00:48]
We have a council member that has a birthday on Thursday, but I'm not going to say who
[1:00:51]
it is, so happy birthday.
[1:00:53]
It's just someone in purple, but it's okay.
[1:00:57]
It's not me, but it's somebody like near me.
[1:01:00]
In purple.
[1:01:01]
That's right.
[1:01:02]
So happy birthday, Ms. Alexander.
[1:01:04]
Thank you.
[1:01:05]
Miss Dane?
[1:01:06]
No.
[1:01:07]
Okay, motion to adjourn.
[1:01:08]
Second?
[1:01:09]
Second.
[1:01:10]
Discussion?
[1:01:11]
Ms. O'Connor?
[1:01:12]
Ms. Fleming.
[1:01:13]
Call the roll, please.
[1:01:14]
Can I have a brown standard?
[1:01:15]
Yes.
[1:01:16]
Ms. O'Connor?
[1:01:17]
Yes.
[1:01:18]
Ms. Fleming?
[1:01:19]
Yes.
[1:01:20]
Is it happening?
[1:01:21]
Yes.
[1:01:22]
Ms. O'Connor?
[1:01:23]
Yes.
[1:01:24]
Thank you so much.
[1:01:25]
Thank you.
[1:01:29]
Thank you.
[1:01:31]
Thank you.
[1:01:33]
I'm going to cut with you.
[1:01:37]
I called up your name, so I'm going to come back.
[1:01:40]
I almost dropped the phone.
[1:01:41]
What am I doing?
[1:01:43]
Linda, I love your hair.
[1:01:46]
It's really nice.
[1:01:48]
I love that cut on you.
[1:01:49]
Not that it wouldn't matter, because I still have my leg here.
[1:01:52]
I saw it and I said I could see it separately and I wouldn't know what it was.
[1:02:01]
I'm sorry.
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It works perfect for your face.