[0:07] We're here today. And, uh, Jody Eams is here today. We're talking about internet safety. Jody works, uh, at John severe elementary school. And corporal Eric, foster, foster, and he is with one county schools in SRO. We'll be joining us all seven. You're more than welcome to sit down. You're more than welcome to walk around. We have the capability to be out and follow you wherever you go as you speak.

[0:33] but we're really glad that you all are here. If anyone owns them, has any questions please put it in the chat and Sarah will make sure that we are aware of those questions as we go along and we can answer any questions and as for anyone in the room, please feel free to join in. This is casual and informal. We want you to be informed.

[0:53] All right, Joni, I'm going to turn it over to you.

[0:57] Okay, I had been at Johnsyear for this is my 28th year.

[1:01] I was first training, technology, and now STEM.

[1:04] So I've kind of been around and blocked a few times,

[1:06] but I got interested in Internet safety probably that,

[1:11] I would say 10 years ago, and ever since,

[1:15] and it's like gotten even more crazy.

[1:18] But,

[1:26] have everyone had children?

[1:29] Okay, what do your kids do online?

[1:32] Whether they're little or big.

[1:35] This is the interaction, games, social media,

[1:40] they've got videos, you two shopping yet.

[1:46] Absolutely.

[1:47] Basically, they do everything online now and everything

[1:51] all because of that little thing that's in their pocket.

[1:56] The absolute most important thing

[1:57] you're going to think about an internet-site date is communication. Not filters, not firewall,

[2:03] nothing. Communication is what you need to make sure you remember about the internet-site date.

[2:09] The more you communicate with your kids, the better. And start young.

[2:16] From a child's perspective, growing up with somebody like yourself, it's

[2:21] preparedness is a huge thing to have the ability to just listen and have open dialogue because

[2:26] is the other day, children don't have anybody to ask

[2:29] about how life works.

[2:31] They're just throwing into this crazy world

[2:33] and they have no idea how to interact with it

[2:36] and interpret it and they need somebody like a parent.

[2:39] Whether it's their parent or somebody else's

[2:41] to help them learn and understand

[2:42] and if you're not providing that to your kid,

[2:46] they're gonna have some problems online, right?

[2:48] It's just an end of the game.

[2:50] There's no thought now, whether it is from you

[2:52] or from their friends.

[2:53] So, the more you talk and communicate with your kids at a very young age, the better.

[2:59] These are all the things that we're just going to quickly cover today in a part-grade

[3:03] contact, online privacy, online enticement, sexting, extortion, and cyberdolloting.

[3:11] Alright, if you have a child, I'm going to say 8th and lower.

[3:16] You still need to be having these conversations.

[3:19] This is important.

[3:20] Over here.

[3:21] 8th and younger.

[3:22] looking at inappropriate context content. It is not if they see inappropriate

[3:28] content. Content is when. Every single kid's gonna see it. Whatever computer

[3:34] device they're on, their phone, their computer, their iPad, their Game Boy, their

[3:39] Switch, whatever they're going to see it. So start talking now. I say, Queens now?

[3:49] I

[3:50] the average age, they get a phone. And as soon as they get that phone, it's a whole new world for them.

[4:00] They're going to see all of this stuff. And you think your kid is smarter than that?

[4:07] Not necessarily.

[4:11] Start conversation when they're young. I'm not going to read all this to you,

[4:15] But I am going to point out, get comfortable talking about uncomfortable topics.

[4:23] If you need to say six, five hundred times out loud, be comfortable with it, do it because

[4:30] you have to bring it up.

[4:32] You have to have those uncomfortable conversations in their little and that's sad.

[4:37] But we have to start doing that.

[4:39] You have to make sure you are working on resiliency.

[4:42] They're going to see it.

[4:43] How are you going to teach them about it?

[4:47] How are you going to talk about it?

[4:49] You want them to come to you when this happens.

[4:51] Not freak out, take pictures and then send it

[4:54] to all their friends and go look what I just got.

[4:56] We don't want that.

[4:58] We want to make sure they come to us

[5:00] before they ever start thinking of going to their friends.

[5:03] And they will, if you've started

[5:05] those uncomfortable conversations.

[5:09] All right, inappropriate content.

[5:11] That is almost everything.

[5:12] pornography, except violent hate speech, risky or illegal behavior. All of that is your

[5:19] inappropriate content. And again, it is when they see it. Not yet. It is when they see

[5:27] it. Make sure you listen. Try not to judge them and then this one. Remain calm inside your

[5:38] But you've got to remain calm and lead it to the kids to ask questions, allow them to ask questions, and please don't be afraid to say, I don't know, let's look that up, let's figure that out together.

[5:50] It's okay if you don't know the answer.

[5:55] Respecting boundary, please don't confuse that with privacy.

[6:00] My poor kid, and I'm going to talk about my kid a lot today, so if anybody knows her,

[6:06] I will deny it that I talked about her.

[6:08] But I tell her all the time there is absolutely no right to privacy in my own, absolutely

[6:14] not.

[6:15] Now, am I going to respect a boundary?

[6:18] Yes, but those boundaries are going to grow as she gets older and she proves that she

[6:22] can handle it.

[6:23] Otherwise, yep, I'm going to read every single thing you do, I'm going to look at every single

[6:28] thing you do.

[6:28] So when they earn it, okay, move on, but you've got to make sure you are taking, if you

[6:35] are being proactive, not reactive.

[6:38] Don't frighten them as a parent.

[6:41] Listen and try to stay calm.

[6:43] When you're freaking out in your head, they're thinking you're listening.

[6:47] So you just keep saying, saying what was I going to say?

[6:51] And then as they're talking, and the more they talk, the better.

[6:54] Let them talk.

[6:56] Answer their question.

[6:57] and if absolutely necessary, report it.

[7:00] Absolutely, report it.

[7:04] What they should do, something that I think is very important,

[7:07] I don't know from a law enforcement,

[7:09] but use the back button, turn off the screen,

[7:16] but don't exit.

[7:17] The more evidence you have, the better.

[7:21] Keep it, screenshot it.

[7:23] Do all that things stuff when you're alone with it,

[7:26] but teach them, okay, wait,

[7:27] I'm just going to close the screen or I'm just going to hour off or you know click my thing put it

[7:33] to sleep so that you can see it and that you can help save it and work for it.

[7:41] Privacy settings is huge. Any of the gains that those kids are playing and in the social media,

[7:47] you need to be involved with all of the privacy settings. Get in there and dig. You can't miss

[7:53] something uh or that's my first friend's coming. You can't really miss things up. The tighter

[7:59] your privacy studies actually the better. And then as I get older, obviously you can start doing

[8:04] things. Reporting and blocking, blocking is really, really important. Block those people. Talk to

[8:10] them about blocking them. I have a story about my kid. She was, she does not have a phone. She's 12.

[8:18] She has an iPad. I let her do messenger. That's the only thing because I can control who she talks to

[8:24] and I can see every word she tells.

[8:27] She actually said to me when she's a mom,

[8:30] I deleted a friend, I was like,

[8:31] well, why?

[8:33] She said, well, they just aren't being very nice.

[8:36] I'm like, oh, hello, yeah, there was a woman.

[8:39] She was able to block that kid

[8:42] without ever coming to me, which was lovely.

[8:46] Online privacy.

[8:48] That is not something new.

[8:51] We've talked about online privacy a lot.

[8:54] And sadly, parents are the worst about unintentionally giving out your location and private information.

[9:05] Are there unknown people on online games that your kids play online games?

[9:12] Are the people that they talk to and chat with and play with always do they say they are?

[9:20] No, they are not. So remember that. Now you all can read all of that.

[9:24] But remember that, there's online games, so your kids playing will go and grow blocks

[9:29] because that's younger kids, row blocks.

[9:32] They're a chat with this person and they've met, they're on the same level, blah, blah,

[9:37] blah.

[9:37] Oh

[9:41] my kid would never give out personal information ever, we talk about all the time, which you

[9:46] probably do.

[9:47] But parents are going to be posting, hey, my little girl did such a good job at her John

[9:54] your Fox cheer team. Okay this person who is not a child now knows who the mother is, now

[10:05] knows they are a junk severe fox. Now can Google what the schedule is for the ball game and

[10:11] now they're sitting in the audience watching your kid. Then they come back online saying hey,

[10:17] how much you're okay. You are really good in your cheer. So it's like parents. We love our kids,

[10:24] we drag on our kids. Just be careful of unintentionally telling these people where to find your kids.

[10:32] It's scary.

[10:40] I'm going to admit it someone. Oh okay.

[10:46] There we go. So what can you do? Obviously you can

[10:49] read all this. The biggest thing here is your privacy

[10:52] setting and talk about your friend's list. Know who your

[10:56] kids are talking to. Make sure that there's somebody that

[11:00] maybe they know in person. I've never left yet. I'm going to

[11:05] say yet. Nor talk to somebody on her little messenger if I

[11:09] don't know personally who they are. I'm going to say yet

[11:13] because it's coming on. Sure.

[11:17] All right. Online enticement

[11:19] It involves individual communicating with someone believed to be entitled in touch with

[11:26] the child and the internment.

[11:28] All right.

[11:29] So sexual offense, abduction, and sex tors, sex tors, and it will talk about in just a

[11:35] second.

[11:35] But that's what online enticement is.

[11:38] And you always think, oh my kid is smarter than that.

[11:42] If most of the time they are solicited by their peters.

[11:48] These are usually the older end of your teenagers, tweens as well.

[11:55] Because now that they have these phones and they're chatting with everybody,

[11:59] they want that feedback, that instant feedback.

[12:03] They want people to tell them how beautiful they are,

[12:06] how awesome they are in basketball.

[12:08] all. Oh, I love the touchdowns that you made on Friday night, but it's always going to

[12:14] not always. Usually they're peers. But here's the thing that really is weird to me. Most are

[12:22] not bothered by it. The reason they're not bothered by it is because they're desensitized to it,

[12:29] which is sad. They see it all the time. They are trying to get people to meet with it. This is

[12:38] is the one where I want you to have my stuff put this thing.

[12:41] It happens all the time.

[12:45] Jump in and time.

[12:47] Well, I'll say about that.

[12:50] All the things you're talking about

[12:51] is we call it law enforcement agreement.

[12:55] So remember, you have someone who's older, they're

[12:57] grown, and because most kids love attention.

[13:00] And people that are predators that are looking to do that,

[13:04] And for whatever reason, they tend to be able to tell which kids are having issues in

[13:14] other areas, whether it be in the household, mom and dad, split up, and they're struggling

[13:21] with that.

[13:21] And they've got something else going on.

[13:23] I'm just using that as an example.

[13:25] But they always start by growing up.

[13:27] You know, wow, you look really pretty today.

[13:30] You know, I love that dress.

[13:31] You know, I went to your basketball game once you said and I've actually got it whenever I start talking

[13:35] I've got a video we got them I was a monkey on YouTube and he it's scary what he can people just

[13:42] post a five to eight-second clip of where they're at themselves need to go find you anywhere in the

[13:48] country and he's found people all over the world so it's pretty wild. We'll watch a video a little later but

[13:54] It's a group of things where it starts and it goes where it is, but it's always got to look after that.

[14:03] Someone's, if your child comes home, getting an unusual amount of attention from somewhere else, that's weird.

[14:23] It happened to be five years ago.

[14:26] My parents were divorcing and things at school and my friends weren't too good.

[14:29] But I felt like the world was falling down around me.

[14:32] That's when I met someone online.

[14:37] We would chat about everything in my life.

[14:39] I finally had someone to take my side and see things my way.

[14:42] I had someone to put me first.

[14:48] No matter how much I thought we could trust each other, I knew better than to meet in

[14:51] person when someone I had met on the internet.

[14:53] But one day when school was dismissed early, there was someone waiting for me at my front

[14:56] door.

[14:59] I never thought I'd-

[15:00] Find myself in this situation. I learned a hard way that no matter who you think you're talking to online, there are people out there looking to hurt you. It doesn't matter if they're male or female, or if they look a little rough around the edges, or even if they're the most beautiful person.

[15:15] These people exist online and in the real world.

[15:17] It

[15:21] happened to me too.

[15:23] I was 14 and someone online sent me a private message.

[15:28] I shouldn't have responded, but I messaged back in seven days later, agreed to be picked

[15:32] up outside of my house at midnight.

[15:35] I was taken to another house and what happened there was terrifying.

[15:43] I remembered it for the rest of my life.

[15:45] I felt numb and powerless and didn't know what to do.

[15:48] I was too afraid to tell my parents in a shame that what everyone would think of me.

[15:52] But hiding it was a mistake.

[15:55] I saw the car that I was taking and driving around my neighborhood all summer long.

[16:00] Was I being targeted again?

[16:02] Was someone else being victimized?

[16:04] I finally decided to tell someone.

[16:12] I have to live with the decision I made to trust someone I met on the internet.

[16:16] But the important thing is that I've told someone.

[16:27] I'm not a victim, but a survivor.

[16:38] That is very important and it could go for a very long time.

[16:43] It is not a one to two conversation.

[16:46] It is a long time. It starts off in a sense. Then it gradually gets to being much more.

[16:57] For example, you've got this high school boy is talking to this middle school girl.

[17:04] She's all about it. Is this high school boy giving her attention?

[17:08] Telling her all of these things that's going on and going,

[17:11] And, hey, see me picture your app that you're wearing to not to the ball game.

[17:16] She does, gets a little further, further, further, hey, I want to get my, I don't know,

[17:24] my sister, some new underwear, what time, what time do you or what type do you wear?

[17:29] Send me a picture.

[17:31] And it just keeps going and going and it's scary how believable these people can actually

[17:39] be.

[17:40] And I thought this was ridiculous, off-right gifts and cell phones and gift cards, but it's true.

[17:46] It is absolutely true.

[17:56] That's how it works.

[18:07] So this is what he was talking about.

[18:10] If they start acting different, you've got lots of different signs of grooming.

[18:14] If they get upset when they're not getting to get online, they're not getting that fix of having that attention.

[18:22] Rejecting family members, they're starting to go hide in their room for long repairs of time.

[18:26] I don't do it anyway, but starting calling unknown numbers, receiving gifts, just weird

[18:32] gifts.

[18:33] I just got a pair of beats today.

[18:35] Well, they don't have a job.

[18:37] So something of was that, minimizing the screen, they're very fast.

[18:42] They can hit those buttons that will instantly minimize your screen so that you can't see

[18:47] it.

[18:50] Talk to your kids about your with their relationships, absolutely teach them the warning signs.

[18:56] actually talk to them about it, use the words, room me, use the words, all the things,

[19:03] use those words, and know your online friends, know who they are.

[19:09] I check, I make sure I know exactly who it is that my kid is looking or talking to you.

[19:15] I know that this gets you, too, too, and when you have social media, it's on as next to possible.

[19:21] actually probably isn't possible. Not to know every single person that they're talking to.

[19:25] But always, Paul, our friends in blue.

[19:30] With the talking to kids online, we'll say it's harder. So my son plays Fortnite a lot.

[19:37] Well, a lot of that's, you know, old and old, and he's got a mic and he's talking to the movies.

[19:41] A hundred people are matched to it. So there's not a lot of people usually that are on there,

[19:49] and he's got a friend list. It's huge. You know, there are many of them really

[19:52] like to play games together and so that it happens very easily. My son, you know,

[19:59] we try to, I go through the police and every, never so often, he goes through

[20:02] just to lead a bunch of friends because he's got a 50 or 50 friends on his

[20:06] friends list on Xbox and it's like, why does he, you know, play with, you know,

[20:10] I mean, it's just, and most of the time I want to think it's, you know, it's

[20:15] innocence, all kids close to his age. You remember that? You never know. And there's grown adults

[20:20] that play it. That's how it starts. They start asking more and more questions and stuff.

[20:26] Because you talk to, because your kid has talked to them more and more and more, they become more

[20:31] powerful with them just like, we live in anybody else. Absolutely. As it started to innocent for sure.

[20:39] That's why we've got to teach our kids to be capable of talking to them and say, that's for us.

[20:46] and delete them, talking to them, and I don't know if you can see it, I'll try to read it.

[20:51] It says, well, I can't read it.

[20:56] Want to train? And the child says,

[20:58] train? Like, miss it. I'll go first.

[21:02] No, ha, ha, ha, photos in.

[21:05] Buy your gross keepsin' close on LLW.

[21:09] Teaching your kids how to do this is where that's our goal.

[21:13] We want them to be able to police themselves, and that happens with our conversation, talking all the time about what you do is those kinds of things.

[21:28] Sexy, in my opinion, has gotten crazy in the probably the last five years.

[21:37] These numbers are probably lower, this was a study done in 2023.

[21:45] I would say it's probably going up 34.8% of the teams say they have received a sex.

[21:54] we got to teach them what to do.

[21:58] Most of the time it's to impress a boyfriend or

[22:03] a girlfriend. Most of the time it's that peer pressure thing. Peer pressure is huge

[22:08] especially on our middle school junior high agents. That is big. Well high school

[22:14] too but they kind of start getting their identities closer into their

[22:17] hospital year. So, peer pressure and trying to oppress as a former principal, it never goes away.

[22:28] I came to principal at high school and particularly I'm glad he had done the Sprite to my getting

[22:34] there. And then three years later, every service on my watch. So it doesn't ever go away.

[22:41] And you know, when we try to teach about respecting yourself,

[22:46] 200 likes to do that program, so it's there always.

[22:50] Oh yeah, once it's there, it's always there.

[22:53] It doesn't have to be deleted or not.

[23:01] You probably get lots of messages every day.

[23:05] But what if you've got one like this?

[23:08] What would you do?

[23:10] Would you send a picture?

[23:14] No? Cool, that's an easy way to protect yourself.

[23:19] But what if you chosen differently?

[23:23] What if you send the picture? They'd never share it with anyone else, right?

[23:29] Do you want the pictures shared with others?

[23:32] Sorry, you no longer have a choice. It's out of your hands now.

[23:36] Because sometimes people we trust break that trust.

[23:40] Maybe the person you sent the picture to shows it to some friends, maybe they send it to

[23:46] a couple friends, who send it to a couple more friends, who you get the idea, it's friends.

[23:54] And you never know who might see it.

[23:59] Your little brother,

[24:03] your mom,

[24:07] other people at school, even strangers can get a hold of

[24:15] picture. You never really know where that picture will end up.

[24:23] How long it will be out there?

[24:27] But the consequences will be. Tell my others to decide what happens to your image.

[24:33] Think before you share. Learn more at netsmarts.org. And hey, if your image is already out there,

[24:41] know that it's not your fault. For information about removing sexual pictures and videos from the

[24:46] the Internet, visit missingkids.org slash get help now.

[24:53] One that's there, it's there, hog to your kids about what happened.

[24:59] The kids, they sent it to their boyfriend or whatever, somebody they trust.

[25:03] But the other kid grabbed it out of his hand. Now it's gone.

[25:08] So it's, it may be that you trust that person great.

[25:11] But do you trust everybody else that he left his phone sitting there?

[25:15] Anybody can pick it up and get it.

[25:18] Consequences, we all know the consequences of sexting.

[25:24] Alright, addressing it, make sure you talk about real life examples with your kids.

[25:32] Show them that video once it's out.

[25:34] You've got one picture and an out, it's everywhere.

[25:38] It has gotten so big with all the social media that it just sprints, it's like wildfire.

[25:43] You cannot ever get it back.

[25:49] That just means this is a relatively new term, it's not a new thing, it's a new term.

[25:56] This is when it demands additional sexual content, sexual activity, or money from a child

[26:02] based on an image or something that they have received.

[26:36] So what can you do?

[26:37] Obviously do not comply to the demands, make sure you report it on the app, don't delete

[26:43] the account.

[26:44] We want as much evidence as possible.

[26:47] When we are trying to prevent this from happening again, I get teacher kids to close it, but it's a link to do whatever.

[26:56] This is something that happens to adults who all the time, I can tell you how many calls, we answer where somebody of the male was on a dating app and

[27:09] in appropriate picture, and now there isn't sort of for whatever money.

[27:15] And the problem with that is, as long as we're at the same point,

[27:20] it's hard to prosecute.

[27:22] Because people are not the country.

[27:23] I mean, you can tell you got a real thick accent,

[27:26] and the number is local, but they swoop the numbers all the time on different websites and stuff,

[27:33] and they're going to extort you for as much money as I can.

[27:36] And then if you don't, don't they are going to send it to, I mean, if it's on, if they

[27:41] have access to, typically, like Instagram, I don't know much about Instagram, but it's

[27:46] apparently you can see a lot of your friends list of stuff, your friends with them.

[27:50] So if the sharks there, they're going to get going down to your friends list to start sending

[27:54] it to people.

[27:54] We've seen that, and several times, and like I said, I can't be able to take that back.

[28:00] I don't know how to do that.

[28:00] you know I mean it's never it's never gonna go away and I'm not gonna be able to

[28:07] prosecute somebody that's in you know a different country and you're over in

[28:13] Europe or something that's virtually impossible for me to do anything with so

[28:17] the only advice I give people is don't send them any money expect it to go to

[28:21] your friends and block that's the only thing you can do.

[28:25] The best of all, I don't send a sticker to them.

[28:26] Yeah, so that happens all the time. I mean, I've been in the sheriff's office for

[28:33] going on 11 years now. I've probably answered 150 call of a cell of similar situation

[28:40] like today. So.

[28:42] She and I will work at the junior high, which the state and the North grade students.

[28:47] And this does.

[28:49] Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy.

[28:51] It is currently especially that age because they're thinking, oh, well, they'll do whatever

[28:57] I want because they don't want their pictures shared.

[29:00] Yep.

[29:01] Cyberbullying we've heard for many, many years.

[29:04] Cyberbullying, it can take on a whole new look with social media.

[29:09] You've got a huge mass audience now, which is pretty scary to me.

[29:16] This one happens all the time creating fake profiles.

[29:24] There are so many groups out there bullying groups of lists of who I wouldn't think blah,

[29:31] blah, blah, blah list at the junior high and then there's all these names.

[29:35] That's a form of cyber bullying.

[29:37] It is all so crazy how this can go from innocent little things to now it's a huge voter shopping

[29:46] pictures. These kids have their little computers in their hand. It's an innocent picture, but they can photoshop it, make it not an innocent picture. Nobody knows the difference.

[29:56] So then there it goes.

[29:59] inside the volume.

[30:00] It was not even TCA until last year. So there was not them, I mean, cyberballing is a sort of former harassment. It still is a former harassment, but there was no definition for it from a law enforcement standpoint. So the, I mean, the TCA, the TNC code, and it says charge criminal code. So if so, I mean, before last year, there was nothing you could really do about when just telling the block owner, just going to rise anyways. But, you know, the cyberball and the values, I've handed people,

[30:29] and parents are handling on the TCA,

[30:31] but if you find a cyberbullying in there,

[30:33] I'll try to put them in.

[30:35] So now they've had me to harass them,

[30:37] and still just a minute or so,

[30:38] a long time to get a citation out of it,

[30:40] but best advice is just follow.

[30:48] So I have a bullying spread,

[30:49] I think that's that wider audience.

[30:51] These are signs to look for.

[30:53] Oh, I mean, just regular bullying as well,

[30:55] like physical bullying, but you've got your loneliness,

[30:58] they try to run away, they isolate,

[31:00] they have low self-esteem and that's usually a target as well for all kinds of

[31:06] other things. So keep an eye on those kids. Blocking them, save the evidence, as best

[31:16] you can, screenshots, print it out, whatever you need to do.

[31:23] Also, we need to think

[31:24] about our own kids being that willing. We all think our children are angels, not so

[31:31] much. We need to also be very much aware of what they are saying to their friends, to

[31:38] their, well, internet world. We've got to be careful and we need to watch our own kids.

[31:44] Watch what they are saying. If there's quickly switching off your screens, computers at all

[31:49] hours, all of those things, avoid discussion. Hopefully that's a signal of O.A.

[31:56] Thank

[32:35] you for that.

[32:51] Thank you

[32:54] for that.

[32:55] Thank you for that.

[36:01] Thank you for that.

[36:02] Thank you for that.

[36:02] Minute 2 is that one month after 15.

[36:07] It is sad how something as simple as a picture leads to this.

[36:14] So communicate.

[36:15] Talk to your kid.

[36:17] I gave you that.

[36:18] Here's the first five things you should do immediately.

[36:20] start talking, communicate, check the browsing history. I can't get on into how to do that

[36:27] because all these devices are so very different. But check your browsing history. I was checking

[36:32] my daughter's on school device. No less. She was searching for gay and homophobic.

[36:40] Oh, we need a conversation. Hold her. They had to. I didn't do that.

[36:47] from the computer and I was like, yeah, let's talk about what do you

[36:50] what questions do you have? We have to. Or if they just are going to find out from

[36:55] other people, all of their friends. Personally, I would only allow the

[37:01] advice of the common areas, curfew for cell phones, find out their

[37:05] user names and passwords, find them out, write them down in your little

[37:09] secret book or whatever, and occasionally check them. There are five social media

[37:15] apps and you may have another one that I would highly recommend. You get involved with, get on,

[37:21] I don't like them, but get on them, get used to them, follow your children, make sure you are watching

[37:28] what they're doing. See if we think this is right. Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, what's happened,

[37:34] be real. Okay, there's always new ones all the time, so I gotta say it now. But this is a great

[37:42] things to do just to start quickly, getting into getting involved and getting engaged, learn

[37:49] it and connect it.

[37:51] Well, you make that available so we can email it to anybody that requests that.

[37:57] Absolutely.

[37:58] Because these are links right here.

[38:00] Our link of, if I can quick, quick, quick sheets gather, quick tip.

[38:05] It tells you how to get on to Instagram.

[38:07] It tells you what parent controls there are.

[38:10] It tells you all kinds of things so these are actually linked so it's actually better if it's digital

[38:14] So you can click on it and it takes you right later. So if it's a great guy for parents

[38:19] That's all right. I'll let you take over

[38:25] Use my bullet

[38:27] That's all I got

[38:29] You guys have fabulous presentation

[38:32] Powerpoint part you're not gonna have that thing you guys get a picker and we'll go over a couple things but

[38:39] so

[38:39] So my thing is social media, first and foremost, my name is Corporate Crossing with the Sheriff's

[38:45] Office.

[38:46] I've been there going on 11 years.

[38:47] I've been SROs since 2010.

[38:51] So then I've been in several different schools.

[38:54] So I was at every three years, went to Heritage High School for a couple of years, went to

[38:58] Heritage Middle School for a few months, and then ended up going to Heritage High School.

[39:04] Now I've just got moved back to Everett.

[39:06] So Eric is K through 12. So kids at all ages I deal with pretty regularly.

[39:12] And I'm going to talk to you first and foremost, Snapchat.

[39:17] I don't let my kids or I get four kids, 13, 11, 9, 2.

[39:25] None of them have any type of social media. I think that's if you want to talk about

[39:29] protecting your kids from social media, the most important thing you can do is not have it.

[39:34] and I was probably not in popular opinion, but I would say 90% of the crowns that we see

[39:39] have some shape form or fashion snapchat involved that we see in the school systems. I mean,

[39:45] it's if it's not run away or they've cyberbullying takes place on snapchat snapchat is

[39:54] I've nicknamed it the devil is I don't know much good. Well, I don't think it was designed for good.

[40:01] I don't think it's been good for I just I don't know what good has come out of snapchat

[40:07] I somebody I'll add one somebody could probably educate me on that, but

[40:12] I don't know anything good about snapchat. It's terrible

[40:16] There's my opinion

[40:18] So it doesn't have a mat also, so we hand you snack. I guess that is a good point for snapchat kids have snapchat all the time

[40:26] We've had runaways and we've been able to use a snapchat mat

[40:29] we get somebody that's got a snack chat and one of their courageous stuff. We've used that

[40:33] to help find kids that have run away, but now they're getting, you know, like they always get

[40:40] smarter and smarter, they charge it all. So access to drugs will snap chat. I can't tell you how many

[40:46] times I've been through a kid's phone and I've seen drug menus. I've got that listed up there. It's

[40:53] because it's like a little shopping list and it's got marijuana gummies and it's got a price

[41:02] out next to it. I mean it's just like you would see in a menu at a restaurant. They send it out

[41:07] on a snapchat and luckily there's obviously there's all different levels of attendance. I know

[41:17] that the ones that I've found been pretty like the group. I found several drug menus and was labeled

[41:22] dope group. So that was pretty, you call that a clue in my line of work. So we clicked on that,

[41:31] we found all kinds of different menus and drugs and stuff and people trying to meet up and

[41:35] give drugs. I've had kids, I've had kids parents be frustrated whenever I was at Everett.

[41:42] The first time I had plenty of parents come in and swear their kids was getting drugs from Everett.

[41:48] So they've got to be getting it from the school.

[41:50] Well, they're going to take it pretty seriously.

[41:52] They get wanted every day if you're there for suspension.

[41:55] So we get with a mental factor.

[41:58] So all these vapes and stuff, which

[42:00] is a hot item that always hits on that.

[42:04] And I found, and then you get to talking to some of the kids

[42:07] and we found conversations on Snapchat

[42:09] and get their parents to let me in a bone,

[42:11] and we started looking around.

[42:13] And you can see where somebody has set up a meet.

[42:15] and they just kid goes outside, it's 20 bucks in a mailbox,

[42:19] God drives a buy, takes the money, leaves the drugs,

[42:22] that happens all the time.

[42:25] And it just goes on and on.

[42:27] The biggest piece of advice for Snapchat is,

[42:30] don't let your kids have it.

[42:31] So some of the other ones are some good aspects too,

[42:34] if you monitor firm oil, I think they're perfectly fine.

[42:37] I can't think of anything good,

[42:39] that comes out of Snapchat, it's.

[42:48] I don't have, I tell all my friends, all my friends are a parent, so I don't like your

[42:53] kids' house in the chat.

[42:55] Even if they have it and you follow them, they just get an hour and they have an option

[42:59] for a province.

[43:01] You don't get to see your, you may think, oh, you're following my child on Snapchat, but

[43:06] you're not seeing the private things in the chat.

[43:08] And it's it's set up to be sneaky to hide things in general.

[43:13] That's why I was designed to send it.

[43:15] So that way, yeah, because they disappear and they go away.

[43:18] And it makes it really hard, you know, Snapchat now only holds.

[43:23] That stuff for so long.

[43:25] I don't know exactly what the timeframe is.

[43:27] And they don't cooperate in law enforcement very well.

[43:29] So it's a whole process in order to get something from them.

[43:34] And the one time I've done it in my career,

[43:36] where I found out really out of my league, I'd wrote a search for Snapchat, two users name,

[43:42] two user names for 18 days, for two young men, and I get back 1,568 media files.

[43:54] And so now you've got to look through 1,500 media files to find the evidence you're looking

[43:58] for the crowd. So I was a little outmatched for that. And it's, it don't do it. Snapchat's just a

[44:07] bad. That's my, that's my stand. The other one I talk about it, she didn't really, don't even

[44:14] really go over much as discord. So it's pretty popular with gaming. It's like a, it's just like an

[44:23] online chatting platform where you get on and there's multiple people join into the chat room and

[44:28] And you're talking on a mic, you can do it on a keyboard, video, all that, but there's

[44:33] been an uptick in child predators, sex predators on discord.

[44:41] So there's like, in its five years time, there's been like 35 cases over that, and it's up

[44:48] to come in that portion.

[44:50] And if you look, you know, I hit the, I was like, okay, no, don't, don't do the

[44:57] way.

[44:58] If you want to just want to, you too.

[45:02] And so this is another portion. So back to what Jody was talking about these adults being able to find your children and figure out where they're at. This guy is pretty incredible. Now, he's obviously really smart, but you know, if he can do it, there's several other people that can do it. And he finds just click on that. That's a good step into Wix studio, the platform for agency's and enterprises and turn website lay ass into an art form.

[45:37] You asked me to figure out why this video was recorded, so I did.

[45:40] Hi, I'm Jose Monkey, and I find people who ask to be found.

[45:42] Guys, one of the harder things about open source intelligence is finding, combining, and correlating disparate sources of data.

[45:48] It's often the case that the information you're looking for is out there, but getting it all into one place

[45:51] in a format that you can use to produce actionable insights is usually half the challenge.

[45:56] In trying to find this location, I stumbled across a data set that was unusually analysis-friendly,

[46:00] And guys, that made all the difference in the world.

[46:02] So what can we see?

[46:03] This person asks to be found and then shows us their surroundings.

[46:06] There's a partially obscured sign here that looks like it starts with the letter L.

[46:09] We actually have some highway signs here, but they were really blurry, and I was having a hard time reading them.

[46:13] There's not much to look at across the street here.

[46:15] It's just a big open field.

[46:17] Then they turn the camera back the other direction, and we can see that they are at a quick trip gas station.

[46:21] I also noticed that we have what looks like a dark colored water tower off in the distance.

[46:25] And that's about it.

[46:26] Okay, so QuickTrip has almost 900 locations across six different states.

[46:30] I was hoping I could use the OpenStreetMap database to find QuickTrip locations that were fairly close to water towers.

[46:35] In this case, it looked a little bit far to me. I guess they made it like maybe 500 meters. That's like a third of a mile.

[46:40] So I wrote a quick query and tried that. And I got some results, but none of them were right.

[46:44] And frankly, that wasn't too surprising because it seemed like I wasn't getting nearly enough QuickTrip results.

[46:48] I suspected that there were QuickTrip locations that just weren't in the OpenStreetMap database.

[46:51] And that's not uncommon because OpenStreetMap is community maintained, so it's often incomplete.

[46:56] Usually the best way to get a comprehensive list of the locations for a particular business,

[47:00] at least retail businesses like this, is to go to their site and find their store locator.

[47:03] But locators like that are often optimized for a very specific use case,

[47:07] i.e. getting a consumer to the closest location to them.

[47:10] But if you're trying to do the sort of thing that I do, they're often much harder to work with.

[47:14] And guys, I've struggled with many a store locator.

[47:16] But even when they're easy to work with, the trouble with using store locators,

[47:18] while it has lots of good information about their own locations, that's all it's got.

[47:23] It's not going to tell you anything else, like which places are close to water towers.

[47:26] And usually trying to combine the data that you can get from a store locator with other

[47:29] datasets involves a lot of screen scraping and a lot of manual data transformation.

[47:34] And it's usually not worth it. But guys, as I was looking at the quick trip site,

[47:37] I found something I did not expect. They actually have a page that lists all of their locations,

[47:41] and you can download the data as a comma-separated list. And it includes latitude and

[47:45] The longitude coordinates for every location is a freaking jackpot.

[47:48] Anyway, I downloaded the CSV file and did a quick rewrite of my data query.

[47:52] Now I could look for water towers once again that were close to quick trip locations, but

[47:54] this time I knew I had a good list of locations.

[47:56] And when I ran that query I got more results than I did before.

[47:59] And I was able to filter out the locations I had already looked at so I could focus on just

[48:02] the new locations.

[48:04] And didn't take too long to find this location that was near a water tower and also across

[48:07] the street from a large open field.

[48:09] And guys, that was it.

[48:12] You were here at this quick trip location in Turtle Lake, Wisconsin.

[48:18] I used Google Street View to confirm the location.

[48:20] Here's a view of the water tower from the gas station, and by the way, if we'd been

[48:23] able to see the water tower more clearly, it would have been game over really fast, because

[48:27] it says Turtle Lake on the water tower.

[48:29] Anyway, here's that sign that was partially obscured in the video, and here are those highway

[48:33] signs that I couldn't read.

[48:35] You're not actually at one of the pumps at the gas station when you recorded this, so I

[48:38] can't play my favorite game, which pump was it, but I can tell you that you were standing

[48:41] right over here on this line in between these two parking spaces.

[48:43] cases. By the way, in case you're wondering, this quick trip location was not the open

[48:47] street map database. But don't worry, because I'm going to go ahead and know. Okay,

[48:50] it's time to check which previous location was closest to this one. And this time it was

[48:53] way back and lightning round number five in O'Clair, Wisconsin. That's about 52 miles or 83 kilometers.

[48:58] So, you can see, and that's actually one of the ones that took him quite a while longer.

[49:03] There's, like, he's got like three or four seasons and each of them seemed to be like

[49:07] I have over a hundred episodes where he's located somebody based on five to ten second

[49:12] clip.

[49:13] And to me, that's awfully scary because in social media, if your child's posting a picture

[49:19] for a video who's self, I mean, if he's able to do that in an hour, just imagine somebody

[49:24] that's obsessed and over and has several, a lot more talent to put into that.

[49:30] So, to me, that is just another reason why I don't let my kids have social media.

[49:38] It's just hard to pull.

[49:40] You can do all the police that you want.

[49:42] And the communication is very important.

[49:45] But in the day, I mean, an instant video is what's it jeopardizing?

[49:51] And so, if you want to click on that link there, this is a discord.

[49:55] This

[49:59] is just a discord story where this mother finds out that her team is out of the planet.

[50:06] Watch the video to scroll down to them.

[50:10] Yeah, so you can see that the discord.

[50:16] So essentially some of that this mom finds out their sons being sexually sexually exploitation of a matter on discord.

[50:26] And there's like three or four different examples.

[50:29] And I'm more and more than happy to share.

[50:32] And this is just, I mean, it just happens

[50:36] over and over again, where there's more.

[50:38] And it goes, oh, this is got some good information

[50:40] about what you can do, be involved, communicate,

[50:43] want to look for things like that.

[50:46] Come back to the police, yeah.

[50:51] And we'll set that one.

[50:52] So that one is, this is another discord, but so apparently they have hidden chat communities now.

[51:02] So on Discord, this is, and this kind of goes into, it was found in NBC News at the end of five, 35 cases over the past six years.

[51:12] The sexual involvement of children and several different other, several of them are winning flea deals and different likes.

[51:22] some of them are still pending. But that's discourse relatively new and most people think of this

[51:27] court as a, as a app that your child uses or people use to, whenever they're playing games on

[51:33] life. But there's, it just goes to show that people take innocent things and turn them like they've

[51:43] always done for years. It takes something they was designed to be innocent and be very useful and

[51:48] they've termed it against other people.

[51:50] If you don't highlight that and put that in,

[51:55] and I think that's about all I've got.

[51:57] This is just the list of some of the things

[52:01] that some of the apps and stuff

[52:03] that people can use, some monitor.

[52:05] Now, I know the schools use,

[52:08] this is like a top 10 list of apps

[52:10] and that you can use to monitor your children's devices.

[52:15] So I know the lung can still use this bark, right?

[52:19] So we get a lot of notification.

[52:21] It keys on keywords on suicide.

[52:24] You just all kinds of different keywords with the big thing.

[52:27] You're saying this can explain.

[52:29] I have a question, and I wish I knew technology better

[52:33] to ask the question better, but how is AI going to impact this?

[52:40] AI would generate anything you ask.

[52:43] Yes, and so it can generate.

[52:45] If someone sends a picture, that picture can be regenerated in any shape and then distributed

[52:51] in any way.

[52:56] So that's really scary to me because they can take bits and pieces of people and regenerate.

[53:02] So part of what they got, I was going to monkey those, he's a software engineer.

[53:07] And so he uses, now he gets very technical into it, but most of the time people send a video

[53:14] quit with the street sign and a couple identify them tomorrow. So he doesn't have to write

[53:18] any code for it. But he goes into some of them where he actually writes code to identify

[53:23] it like him. And now AI does it for you. That's what's crazy is you can, there's different

[53:29] things that you can put a, like a list of information like a data bank into it. And then you

[53:34] can pass the AI program to search for this, this and this and use this data bank. And it'll

[53:40] full of all your different variables and stuff. So he does, he's done that in some of his.

[53:46] It's pretty wild what you can find. I mean, just a picture of how, especially if you know,

[53:52] you know, like from around here, if you know the area, I've been working in streets,

[53:56] working in, you know, Blood County, working in these streets for 11 years. And if somebody's

[54:00] got a road sign in the background, I pretty much know where it's at here. And so there's all kinds of

[54:08] Yeah. It's just scary. I think I'll visit about, I guess a month ago, a month and a half ago.

[54:15] It was a grandmother raising two teenage grandchildren and she had bark set up in her home.

[54:22] And so we were asking her about it. She was telling us about it and she was saying, I'll get a text that says so and so is engaging in bullying behavior.

[54:30] And what had happened was the girl had sent her brother a text to shut up for something.

[54:35] Yeah, that detail in terms of she would get an alert just based on the lingo and in their text messages or any of their activity.

[54:46] Of course, she had all the controls for so that they could get on different apps and things like that.

[54:51] But we were kind of fascinated by that whole set of.

[54:55] Yeah, barks are really good.

[54:56] I don't know how much any of that costs are expensive.

[55:00] But there's 10 there, I think, and you just get on there, and I'm sure all of them are very, very good and probably easy to work with.

[55:12] And the big thing is, just be afraid of it. Don't be afraid of the technology. Don't be afraid of the social media and talk to your kids.

[55:20] So, I'm a joke, there's no legal privacy in my house, you don't have to, you don't get

[55:25] promising, you have boundaries, but so my wife's actually really good at doing that with

[55:31] the kids.

[55:32] She has certain follows all the time, so look, any questions?

[55:39] I want to add one thing about, I had a grandmother last year that did not protect her credit card

[55:45] And her grandson was on the damning sites and he was enticed by someone to share that credit card with them.

[55:54] And she was not it would recover any money that was stolen because of this out country for all this to the place.

[56:01] The bank, I think, Rimburs $50 and it was over a thousand that was taken.

[56:06] So I don't think it's realized at all what's going on and they're trying to be friends with these people.

[56:13] Well, I'm trying to make friends and yeah, it's sad, you know, I really appreciate this.

[56:21] Anybody have any questions on the chat or in the room at all, you know, it's an outstanding

[56:28] job.

[56:29] I feel a lot more educated, and I really appreciate your time doing this.

[56:35] It was outstanding.

[56:37] Can you tell?

[56:39] You want to go in and turn us off, Sarah?

[56:41] Sure.

[56:42] Oh, yeah.

[56:48] but really thank you all for showing up today and thank you for what's shared as it was.

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