[0:10] order roll call you here Ryan Matson

[0:17] here here Steiner here uh Brett pic

[0:25] here hey pled Allegiance

[0:31] I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[0:36] Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and

[0:43] justice for

[0:49] all approve the

[0:53] agenda you said we could strike public hearing yes yeah uh just a placeholder

[1:02] any other thing to add anybody else no any motion to

[1:08] approve the uh agenda I'll make that motion sorry

[1:15] motion Brian second by jod discussion all in favor signify by saying I oppos

[1:23] motion carried approval of minutes from our February meeting

[1:39] I got a typo on that first uh motion up there the minutes I'll keep that fixed

[2:20] second no second Brian discussion all in favor signify by saying I

[2:32] and then we go on to new business the Cannabis ordinance introduction yes uh

[2:38] right so in the uh the city's effort to kind of um you know well I mean I guess

[2:44] let me back up the the the city can't say no if someone

[2:50] wants to come in with cannabis business they can't and in order to

[2:57] um so right if we can't say no we you know we can't control it so to control

[3:02] it we have to have an ordinance so uh I was talking with sourcewell and they

[3:07] sent me a bunch of different cities ordinances and um like everywhere in

[3:13] Minnesota everything's just a little bit different uh some cities will

[3:16] incorporate their ordinance into their land use but just the the amount of

[3:22] changes that are are kind of happening around cannabis it it it's it's good

[3:26] just to have its own Standalone ordinance so that's um what I did uh I

[3:31] uh I took this one from uh Emily and uh Emily

[3:36] Minnesota uh they're about same size as us and they have pretty much the same

[3:44] kind of uh City layout as well so um really what I want you know the

[3:50] commission's um you know thoughts on is if we uh can kind of page ahead here

[3:58] to um 3.2 zoning and land use um I'd like the

[4:06] uh the commission's thoughts on where the should be now our actual land use

[4:11] ordinance says a th000 feet from a school and then 500 feet from basically

[4:18] Public public areas um and places where miners are now our ordinance doesn't

[4:25] doesn't specify exactly what that 500 ft is for but I believe the the spirit of

[4:30] the ordinance is that is for the consumption of cannabis

[4:35] not you know other things however um just given the the feet distance uh I

[4:42] really am only going to propose the C2 District which is uh the highway

[4:46] commercial which you can see uh just south of Spirit Lake there uh it's that

[4:52] darker pink be where Monaga Marine wases that area yes and then we have also the

[4:58] industrial district as well now uh I have all of that already baked in here

[5:03] uh you'll notice under cultivation um you know there's indoor

[5:07] and outdoor use uh for manufacturer obviously that would all be

[5:12] indoor um and then uh another interesting point when it comes to

[5:17] signage they would just fall under um what our land use ordinance

[5:22] says about it which is uh they they lay out the specifics in there

[5:39] it it absolutely is pretty basic so I mean I figure cultivation so you're

[5:44] you're you're growing the Cannabis um you know if you want to do that next to

[5:48] the highway we're you know I I would recommend maybe having that just

[5:53] indoors um and yeah okay fence it something uh and

[6:00] then you know in the industrial district well you know okay go ahead

[6:07] um and then uh what's another one manufacturer

[6:15] so you know industrial district Highway commercial okay uh if you want to create

[6:24] your you know products you want to consume um you know wholesale

[6:31] again Highway commercial industrial cannabis retail so if you want to sell

[6:37] you know just have your your stand if you will again

[6:41] um yeah I Optics wise um is that something that everyone wants

[6:48] to see coming into town I don't know um or just again limit that just to

[6:55] Industrial you know just something to think about uh cannabis Transportation

[7:01] uh honestly I think that could almost go anywhere because if it's just being

[7:07] transported or they have a you know Distribution Center I mean you're never

[7:12] going to see it it's just going from A to

[7:14] B um cannabis delivery um and then all their cannabis

[7:22] business license by uh not licensed by the state I'll just limit that to again

[7:27] Highway commercial and

[7:31] industrial this is an ordinance do we have to have a public comment on this uh

[7:36] yes there will be a public hearing for it yeah and it'll just go through the

[7:40] whole timeline just like uh we did for the land news so are we going to hold

[7:44] the hearing in or the council or uh well I believe it's to the council yeah I

[7:50] believe the it's the council's intention to hold the public hearing for these and

[7:54] then to to really look at these and kind of really discuss them um

[8:01] you know I I wanted to bring it here first and just hear your thoughts when

[8:05] before I bring it up uh this is this is on the agenda for the 10th so uh you

[8:10] know whatever recommendations uh are made here tonight I'll I'll put those in

[8:15] and uh there'll just be further talking

[8:23] points anyone have any comments on there that you want to bring up or I

[8:28] personally would like to see

[8:31] out not down where the kids are or the schools

[8:37] or that's what these are these are all out yeah yeah yeah and I mean let me uh

[8:43] my whole thought con because I you know it's Optics right to um yeah basically

[8:49] here and then industrial district that theol on that man uh the school would

[8:58] be full yeah and even then so I think we

[9:03] probably cutting it really close if someone was going to set up a business

[9:06] right here um and then again all these permits

[9:11] are conditional use so we're going to have leverage to really like you have to

[9:16] you have to bring us a plan and we have to examine it and approve it it's not

[9:20] just going to be a hey I bought some land and growing

[9:23] weed so this is going to be a deliberate process

[9:30] this has been through Emily's legal and whatnot right yeah and that's kind of

[9:33] one of the other great advantages is um you know their document you know it

[9:38] already went for public hearing and uh really other than just some cosmetic

[9:43] changes and then tailoring it just to managa uh really it's um you know they

[9:50] saved us a lot of a lot of work and probably a good chunk of

[9:55] money all the verbage come straight from there correct

[10:08] it sounds like we have a pretty good thumb on days yeah well that's the whole

[10:13] intent we can't like said we can't say no but we can

[10:20] sayead of it before somebody does decide to move into

[10:24] town and I mean anything's possible um you know I

[10:29] I mean so far I think I've gotten one call and just a couple emails about it

[10:33] and I and I really think that they're just they're really fishing and they're

[10:37] just throwing out a huge net just to see you know what are cities doing and then

[10:42] what's the reasonable expectation you know and if someone wants to come here

[10:46] and you know they want to set up a shop in the industrial district okay that's

[10:49] great their their vehicles are filling up at our gas stations they're shopping

[10:53] at our grocery stores you know they're spending money in town and you know I

[10:58] think it's it's a it's a net win um and let's be honest uh you hear way

[11:05] more drunk driving accidents than you do driving high and I mean is you know

[11:11] whatever the appetite morality is about it it it's good for the city bring in

[11:15] business

[11:22] so just like are okay on it then or yeah yeah you're okay and then any comments

[11:27] you have like uh you know especially like for cultivation I mean you know

[11:32] because I I just I plugged it in what I thought made sense all right and that's

[11:35] just what Brett thought all right so uh if you have an opinion about something

[11:40] or you feel strongly about like hey I don't want wholesale you know on 71 we

[11:45] should just limit that to the indust then yeah I mean those kind of comments

[11:48] I'm looking for for sure well I don't want I don't want to

[11:52] limit them if they do come into town you know I don't want to limit their

[11:56] exposure either if a business comes in to make money they're going want some

[11:59] Highway exposure so they might want to do that Highway commercial there so that

[12:03] their sign is right out there where people are going by I don't have the

[12:06] issue with that like you've got that as indoor for

[12:10] cultivation so that wouldn't be Big Field that growing there in the

[12:14] industrial park nobody sees it I don't have I think you've got a

[12:18] pretty good handle on it here it looks to me in my

[12:24] opinion and so and so you said that in any case if someone wants to set up this

[12:30] business it would be a conditional use everything is conditional use

[12:34] yes guess I don't objection to

[12:40] it wasn't your talk I'm time know about the liquor stores on these so uh the the

[12:47] difference and this is actually coming up on the uh the 10th as well is the

[12:52] liquor store wants to sell Edibles and the the drinkable

[12:57] THC I I am not a connoisseur nor an enjoyer so I can't give you the

[13:02] specifics but what I do know is it's relatively cheap to buy into the markup

[13:07] is fantastic and we get some of that tax back as well and you know we're a pretty

[13:12] popular place in the summertime we have one of the best disc golf courses in the

[13:16] region it's only going to get better you know we're going to start attracting you

[13:20] significantly more people and we you know we already get at least one or two

[13:23] calls a day with the campsites filling up and you know they do come to the

[13:28] liquor store that's where they go and purchase their their Beverages and they

[13:32] do frequently ask if we sell THC products and you know we well we don't

[13:38] and what do they do well they drive down to wena or drive up to Park Rapids

[13:42] whatever their poison is so why why not have it here for them to spend their

[13:46] money on maret C stuff and I think it's I think it's 20% of the tax get back yep

[13:53] that's I was wondering even even like um this thing here if they sell

[13:59] there would be a tax on that or city gain anything from that or yes same deal

[14:03] I think that's same thing on this is

[14:08] 20% yeah I think we might as well be ready for it I think but you're talking

[14:13] Edibles now what are you talking cannabis specifically this is for um

[14:19] Edibles are like gummy oh gummy bears yeah gummies are the drinks are just a

[14:24] drink like a beer cam yeah and they just got THC and CBD in them they sell them U

[14:31] 71 bottles in park rabbit sells them I've been up there looked they sell a

[14:36] lot Dorset corner there they sell it and they're

[14:43] making some of that stuff's 120%

[14:48] markup our chunk of it that's that's really that's kind of our thoughts yeah

[14:54] we're always asking Heather to find a way to make more money like taxes down

[15:02] so it sounds like nobody's against it Brian no I'm

[15:08] well so would you want to like a motion from us or just an agreement or just

[15:13] just an agreement yeah a consensus yeah a consensus would be great and U you

[15:18] know when uh Monday happens I'm just going to say like hey uh you know we

[15:23] went brought this to the Planning Commission they looked at it they and

[15:28] you know again I'm going to explain to the council like a lot of the language

[15:31] in here it it's just not going to change at all so the the things that we can

[15:35] influence are where do we put it and I'm gonna just try to leave that same

[15:39] discussion say Planning Commission just you know uh has consensus that the

[15:44] locations where we want to put this is acceptable well if there are any

[15:47] problems Amy's the one that's going to end up with the problems right well this

[15:52] I mean be but it's very it's less problems than alcohol by a long R okay

[15:59] everywhere I mean I don't do either so the other thing is if if they're high

[16:07] on cannabis is it as recognizable by the law enforcement as oh yeah it is okay

[16:14] they have the driving out the influence isn't just for alcohol it's influence of

[16:17] anything right so they can they've got all the do they have like a breath rizer

[16:22] test or something not not for that they do a field test and then you do a blood

[16:26] test I would it won't show up on a breath

[16:33] tou H I've been out of the drug game for we long L well yeah I guess I don't know

[16:38] either you know I just uh was curious I guess more than anything you want me to

[16:44] um yeah I can I can reach out to Amy and you know it wouldn't hurt yeah uh okay

[16:51] I'm pretty sure that's all the you know it's the same deal but she would know

[16:54] for sure and it would be good just to know just looking you know firsthand

[17:00] experience on you know what it's like to T

[17:24] okay changed yeah the thing is you know the more this becomes available and

[17:31] stuff the more it might come similar to to alcohol now you

[17:36] know well I I mean just another perspective right you know Minnesota's

[17:40] like what one of just a few states that that has it completely legal I mean it's

[17:44] federally it's still an offense I mean if the FED show up they could just say

[17:48] well yeah nope it's IL

[17:56] legal I mean I'm gu guessing right but I don't think they would do that no they

[18:01] don't mess with the states pretty

[18:07] much wadina County hasn't done theirs yet don't I have to check again I know

[18:13] we thought about waiting but how long you wait right the county to do

[18:17] something grabits did theirs two months ago neas did theirs the same time so

[18:22] they're getting ahead of it said they're all relatively the same though yeah it's

[18:26] it's a typical yeah just to control it since you can't say

[18:31] no we just have to be able to control

[18:37] it okay well I think the consensus is it we're okay with it I guess okay uh if

[18:43] you think of anything between now and Monday uh something comes to your head

[18:47] please email me your thoughts uh I'll uh I'll send this to Amy and then uh I'll

[18:52] send an email out to you guys tomorrow with with her response

[19:00] anything else under new business I guess we didn't add

[19:04] anything no old business uh no we don't have any permits

[19:09] we're still waiting uh I I I think we're gonna probably start seeing some trickle

[19:14] in here as the thaw happens um still waiting on Mr uh rennenberg uh he did

[19:21] bring me a u uh a lot split that works perfectly instead of just having it

[19:27] split three ways it's just just uh two Lots now and they they work uh I mean

[19:34] yes yeah

[19:38] sorry U so I mean I think I'm I'm comfortable just approving it and I'll

[19:42] bring it in after the fact um it meets all the

[19:46] minimums by good margins there's no way they do it for three ways

[19:56] no are those rles yeah and that's the he's the one cabin

[20:03] wants to do a contract with deed oh so he had to get the property right because

[20:07] the property line actually went through the middle of that second cabin so they

[20:12] had to get it straightened

[20:17] out is anything happen happening I can't talk today on

[20:22] shingles whole place up there the Marine oh the Marine yeah the is Jon

[20:30] Funk bought

[20:34] the storage units but I don't know if anybody's bought that front building yet

[20:38] that's separate that actual Monaga Marine building is separate I don't if

[20:42] anybody's bought that yet I know they had

[20:45] people know if that switched hands yet or not is he going to use it for storage

[20:50] do you know yeah he called me I got a camper out there and he called me and

[20:54] gave me the rates and introduced himself and whatnot so it'll continue us Storage

[20:59] storage camper

[21:08] storage just for you guys to think about there's a obviously a housing shortage

[21:14] in this town like most we're trying to I'm kicking around ideas trying to come

[21:19] up with anything we can to find a way to encourage some development and I

[21:24] certainly don't have all the answers and I don't know what all we can do I'm just

[21:27] looking for any ideas anything that could work like what I think it was

[21:33] Mills they sold some city property City lots to Developers for a

[21:39] dollar with the condition that they had to have a house structure built on it

[21:43] within a year so then it brings tax base right do so we've got some city land

[21:49] that's just sitting and doing nothing where's that we got

[21:54] the old softball fields out at Southgate there it's actually split into three

[21:58] Lots it's kind of a weird deal but it's 11 something Acres of High Ground there

[22:02] I think that's imp possible because it's got water and sewer stubbed right to it

[22:07] already it'd be a very simple development for

[22:09] [Music] people and Thena development Corp I

[22:13] guess is kind of around doing something with their property but they want the

[22:17] city to foot the bill on all the on all the utilities which can I'm just I just

[22:24] want everybody to start thinking about anything any ways that we can think of

[22:28] to encourage somebody to come in and build some housing and see I mean

[22:34] apparently there's a lot of people that want to live here and they can't find

[22:38] house nothing there's nothing for sale hardly well would those end up being uh

[22:43] residential lots or commercial Lots or well right now it's in the industrial

[22:46] park but there's a there's a residential right in front of it to the south side

[22:51] of that paral is residential house and then there's those three lots and then

[22:57] there's Minnesota Power I think Minnesota Power has their little

[23:01] substation section there so it wouldn't be hard we we did last year we kicked

[23:08] one of those industrial lots for Shafer yeah we

[23:16] resal I don't nobody's beating their door down to come and put anything in

[23:20] that industrial park that's maybe somebody comes up with

[23:25] a better idea yeah yeah just I'm just trying to get some ideas from anybody I

[23:31] can possibly you know just could be a crazy idea we'll take them all and we'll

[23:36] see what stuck see if we can make anything work but water and sewer is up

[23:40] to yeah right now for those we already had a hydrant out there when it was a

[23:45] softball field we had a bathroom in that we had a bathroom in that one building I

[23:49] think I thought we had old Wells out there too I know we I think we just

[23:52] capped them uh last summer but I know there's a I think Ron said there's a

[23:57] 4inch water man that's stubs right to that property and the sewers right there

[24:01] going down the road too so yes for a developer it would be very inexpensive

[24:06] to to put something in out there it's just a matter owns the pallet

[24:11] lot out there now uh that's still I don't know look at my

[24:18] onx H it'll tell me I looked that up

[24:24] once is that see

[24:30] quali and poo polio used to own it I think yeah

[24:35] that's that has changed I think Kevin eov had that other

[24:41] corner there he's got a house on the corner of it and

[24:45] then he's got a big lot out there Roger Roger Le they used to have that deal out

[24:51] there that's a I think that's his now it does the trucking there gous truck there

[25:12] on

[25:23] onine what that say right there Murphy Thomas and glad

[25:29] still Tom and GL glattus still owns it though I know they had had it and then

[25:35] that next lot was safer that we turned to residential yeah GL us come into that

[25:41] hearing when we had that hearing for that I think she sold

[25:47] that I we' have to look on GIS but these are these are usually pretty up to

[25:54] date well there's still stuff out there yeah well it's just basically it's just

[25:59] that old slab there's an old concrete slab

[26:02] there few things laying around but it's it's pretty well cleaned

[26:08] up but I we haven't had any anybody trying to come in and put a

[26:13] business in for a long time we're not we're not in the greatest

[26:17] area for that we just don't have the right Corridor for

[26:22] transportation but I just thought if you guys yeah think of any ear open or

[26:27] whatever way to encourage

[26:33] it tax base more tax base means less taxes

[26:43] per is rberg done out there now or is he still adding yeah he'll still add as he

[26:50] sells they kind of build one and sell it or some of it they actually sell a lot

[26:56] first and then people build he's got plans for all the way around that whole

[27:01] golf course but that's so who

[27:07] knows I can't afford a house out

[27:12] there yeah I think that's more weired for the elderly isn't it than the people

[27:18] kids out there too are there yeah they're not going older very

[27:23] well the kids that are out there well could you imagine and raising

[27:28] kids and you have no lot at all two 10 ft out of your thing it's

[27:34] your property line you know

[27:50] yeah next meeting I believe the next meeting is uh

[28:02] uh that would be uh April 3 April 3rd

[28:19] yes for yes another a couple

[28:25] permits I think I think we might

[28:31] yeah I mean provided we don't have winter coming back and oh it does out

[28:44] here can tell it's getting closer first day of spring though because when I come

[28:49] come east the sun's right in my eyes evening 5:00 pm is working good for

[28:56] everybody this very comfortable time yeah I think

[28:59] it works good it work for you oh yeah absolutely uh I'm going to stay late

[29:04] tonight for the uh First Responders I haven't been to one of their meetings

[29:08] yet so I'm just going to sit in the back and see what's going

[29:14] on I get a lot of work done when it's really quiet here it's great yeah nobody

[29:19] calling nobody's calling yeah

[29:30] the I'll make the motion I'll second all in favor signif by saying I

[29:41] close it is

[29:45] 529 Council me that quick a good chairman

06 March 2025 City of Menahga Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting

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