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Thank you. I'd like to call the meeting
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to order. And before we move on uh to uh
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the approval of the agenda, I'd like to
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make an announcement that uh I've uh had
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a discussion with the CEO and I'm going
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to be calling a public meeting at some
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point when the development for Can Road
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23 comes to council. So, I've asked
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Arlene to reach out to the um to the
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county and to the builder and of course
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our CIO and our planner will be present.
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We'll have a community uh meeting at the
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community center two weeks prior to it
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arriving to council so that the public
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has the opportunity to ask questions and
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have some of their concerns answered uh
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prior to a discussion point. We have no
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timeline on it. But Miss Plumbley will
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keep uh us up to date uh to when we can
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expect that meeting to be held prior to
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it coming to council.
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So we're going to move on to number two,
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approval of the agenda. The agenda for
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the regular council meeting held on
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December 22nd, 2025 be approved as
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presented. May I have a mover, please?
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I'll
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>> move.
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» move.
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>> Thank you. Secer, please. I'll
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» Thank you. Secer, please. I'll
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>> second.
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» second.
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>> Thank you. Any comments or questions
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» Thank you. Any comments or questions
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from council?
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None. Call the vote. All in favor? It's
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carried. Thank you. Going to go on to
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disclosure of the community interest and
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general nature thereof. Does any member
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have a interest to declare? And if so,
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what is the general nature of that
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interest?
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No declaration. So, we'll move on to
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four. Public question period to council.
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Public question period is an opportunity
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for residents to ask questions directed
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to council regarding items on the agenda
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only during questions asked during the
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session will be considered by council
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during the item on the agenda that it
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pertains to. Does any member of the
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public have a question regarding any
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item on the agenda?
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Do we did we have any anybody write in
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and call in? So we have none. So we'll
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move on to motions for consideration
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that the council of the corporation of
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the village of Marful Wolfer received
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for information the motion for
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consideration document as presented. May
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I have a mover please? Thank you and a
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seconder. I'll second.
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>> Thank you. Comments or questions please?
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» Thank you. Comments or questions please?
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None. We'll move on to the vote. All
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those in favor carry. Thank you.
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Delegations Anne Martin and Gladet
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Martin block house museum board that the
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council of the corporation of the
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village of Merrickville Wolfer received
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for information the delegation from Anne
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Martin and Gladet Martin regarding the
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block house museum municipal service
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board plans for 2026. May I have a
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mover, please?
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>> I'll move.
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» I'll move.
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>> Thank you. And a second here, please.
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» Thank you. And a second here, please.
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>> Second.
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» Second.
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>> Thank you. I'll now invite Ann and
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» Thank you. I'll now invite Ann and
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Claudet to provide their delegation to
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council. Ladies, the floor is yours.
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>> Thank you.
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» Thank you.
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>> Uh my name is Anne Martin. I'm the chair
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» Uh my name is Anne Martin. I'm the chair
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of the municipal services board. This is
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Claudet. No relation.
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Uh
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here tonight, I guess there were some
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questions about what the uh museum board
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um is up to in the coming years um at
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the council meeting on December 1st. um
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when we thought we'd put together a
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short presentation for you. We'll run
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through a couple of things, Julia, just
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on the table of contents about uh what
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we're planning uh for 2026 and beyond.
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Next slide, Julia.
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So, we're a relatively new organization
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formed by bylaw in 2023.
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Uh first met in December. So that means
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that summer of 2024 was our first summer
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of operation and the museum municipal
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services board operates the block house
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museum. The Marville and District
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Historical Society provides the
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artifacts and we have anou in place with
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uh MDHs to make that happen. And in our
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first year it was just sort of uh
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getting up and running and establishing
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policies and procedures.
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Uh 2025 was our second summer. We had a
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real focus on visitor experience
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um and trained staff for uh donations
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and we really had our largest gate
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revenues ever over uh [clears throat]
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$8,500.
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We've been playing uh through the couple
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of years with how many days to stay open
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to put a sweet spot in terms of
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staffing. I guess that doesn't show on
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the slide very well, Julia. There you
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go. Thank you. Um, and I think where
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we've landed is with the grants that we
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receive being open 5 days a week, being
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closed Tuesday and Wednesday during the
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week is really what yields the best
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value for money as an organization
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with planning to 2026.
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We're really happy to report that we
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have put together a lot of thought. We
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have a team and we have a work plan for
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what it is that we're looking to support
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for 2026. And a big part of that will be
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looking at some new funding streams to
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sort of really support what it is that
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we're doing. Starting with uh some the
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creation of some new school programs uh
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as not just you know the jewel that is
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Merrickville but for our residents it's
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really time that we invite schools to
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come and take a look at what it is
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that's there to really invite them back.
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Uh the museum hasn't changed since the
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days that Horses wore hats. So, it's
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time to really start taking a look at
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that with the creation of some new
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school programs and to take a look at
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from the tourism lens how we can get we
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know that buses are coming to uh
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Merrickville. We want to really be able
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to invite them to come in for a
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meaningful program while we're there
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while they're sort of here. So, those
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are some of the things that we're
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looking at doing with a modest donation
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that will help us kind of beef up our
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budget. We're also taking a look at uh
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bringing in uh some rotating traveling
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exhibits uh and Ann's going to tell us a
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little bit about that first one.
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So we've arranged um to uh a loan from
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the next slide actually if you want to
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just go one ahead from the Elvin Area
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Historical Society. So, this is a um
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historic RTO canal that we have borrowed
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um for free for for next summer and it's
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really the first time that we will mount
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a new exhibition in the Black House
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Museum. It'll be upstairs on the second
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floor. Um this is the catalog that's um
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already been produced and it's really an
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opportunity for us to begin to celebrate
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the 200th anniversary of the Rudo Canal.
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So built between 1826, opened in 1832.
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So next year marks the 200th anniversary
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of the canal. So this is sort of our
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first step forward in actually offering
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something new for maybe people who
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haven't been to the block house for a
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while. And it's really an awesome
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opportunity for people to see how life
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along the has changed and some in some
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ways stayed the same in the last 200
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years. So, we're really excited about um
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this coming to fruition next summer.
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Next slide. We're also excited that in
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2026, along with this traveling exhibit
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that we have coming, we're launching a
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real refresh of the museum. If you can
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picture what it looks like, um we're
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going to apply some real museum 101
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guiding principles to focus on the
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visitor experience in the museum. So
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what that means is we have a group
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together who are really taking a look at
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both the artifacts, the exhibits, the
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texts, the panels, what you see there.
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And with those guiding principles, we're
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going to take a look at how we tell
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those stories. The studies show that
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people come to museums for two reasons,
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for fun and for the perceived learning
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values. So enga in sort of being able to
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engage visitors at that as our starting
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point. We're going to take a look at how
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we tell our stories. Starting with a
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kickoff with this new traveling exhibit
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with an ex a traveling exhibit plan that
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we'll have in place. We'll be able to
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better teach about the RTO Canal. We
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know that that's what's driving people
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into the building. It's the funkiness of
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the shape of the building. It's so cool.
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It's bringing people in. So, we'll be
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able to meet them where they're at and
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really tell that story, but we'll also
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be able to sort of expand on that and
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better tell the story of Meritville and
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its people, its development, while we
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also hold space for indigenous presence
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and the indigenous voices of the people
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who have lived here and who still live
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here. So, we're really looking forward
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to visitors being able to come in and
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learn and also to reminisce and to share
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while they're there. The slide that you
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see uh is just kind of some of our uh
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working photos on what we're looking at
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doing. The first slide is with some of
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our staff from last year. That's sort of
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the the the guest uh the visitor um the
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front desk area. And we're looking at
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taking what's already there and
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improving upon it. Because if we go to
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our next slide, uh I'm a museum
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professional for the last 35 years and I
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I love to tell you that my favorite
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thing about museums are small museums
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with very modest budgets because what
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that encourages us to do is to take
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what's already there and improve it and
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really raise the bar and raise the
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standard. And with this budget, that's
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what we're looking at doing. Uh with
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this budget, we really drilled down in
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terms of looking at some new revenue
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sources. How can we train staff better
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and with intention to be able to raise
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that donation amount that we achieve?
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Keeping in mind that we're only open
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between 55 and 60 days. And as you can
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see from our 2025 actuals, uh we blew
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that budget in terms of the revenue
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right out of the water with our best
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year ever. Um, so that's wonderful for
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us and we're looking to improve on that
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for our 2026 season uh by taking a look
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at some other revenue streams,
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merchandise programming, and that sort
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of thing. Um, again, to really be able
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to better tell our stories with what's
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there and with some procedures and
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policies that we have in place for our
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new traveling exhibits as well.
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» Next slide. Yeah,
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>> that's the gist of it. Now we open the
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» that's the gist of it. Now we open the
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floor to questions.
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>> Thank you very much. We appreciate uh
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» Thank you very much. We appreciate uh
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your little uh history lesson. Uh I love
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I love history. Um so do we have any
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questions from members? Go ahead. Again,
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>> I do have a question on slide four. we
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» I do have a question on slide four. we
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kind of skipped over the exploring
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partnerships and I wonder if you could
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describe a little bit more about the
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work you're doing with RT9 and the
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county.
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>> Absolutely. Um we're sort of looking at
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» Absolutely. Um we're sort of looking at
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we we know what we do. we know what it
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is that we're good at and with 7,000
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visitors roughly this year the questions
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that we were asking ourselves is how can
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we do better with marketing and we're a
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museum services board so we were really
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looking at well who's already doing the
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marketing and how can we sort of tap in
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and plug in with what they're doing uh
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so given that we met with RTO9 we met
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with county of leads in Grenville uh
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we're meeting with parks Canada to try
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and leverage what it is that we're
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doing, what they're already doing, uh,
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and really improving on that. So, we've
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had some of those discussions. Those
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discussions are ongoing. Uh, and really,
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we're just kind of continuing to work on
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that. When we come back to the table in
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February, we'll have some other
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marketing plans that we'll want to do
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sort of within Merrickville. Um, also
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working with those channels. And, do you
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have anything to add with that? It's
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good. Any other questions for members?
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Go ahead, counselor.
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>> Uh yeah, I just noticed here on the um
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» Uh yeah, I just noticed here on the um
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under the um museum total compensation
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uh it dropped by 15,000 this year. What
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what was the difference in terms of um
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staff makeup? What we learned this year,
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as an mentioned, is that our sweet spot
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is three staff 5 days a week. As you
[12:30]
look through previous years, uh the
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museum has tried several sort of
[12:34]
combinations in terms of what works
[12:37]
best. Is it four full-time staff and
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seven days a week? Is it three full-time
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staff and five days a week? And just
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what we found is three full-time staff 5
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days a week is sort of our sweet spot.
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Also, with that, we have to sort of
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bounce that off with the grants that
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we're writing. So, uh, between us and
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with the village, we write four grants
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to try and offset those staff. So, we
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need a little bit of wiggle room in
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terms of what our expectation is in
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terms of the cost of those staff.
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Depends what we get in the grants. We'll
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either get, if it's a good year, we'll
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get four grants at 75% covered. Yay. Uh,
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but that's not what happened in 2025.
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2025 was a much more lean year where we
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had two grants at about 50% covered.
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Those grants have been written. So now
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we wait and see and they're always late
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in telling us.
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>> Thanks. Never happens on time.
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» Thanks. Never happens on time.
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>> Well, any other questions for members?
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» Well, any other questions for members?
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>> I have a question. Um, considering this
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» I have a question. Um, considering this
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is going to be a a marking point uh
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200-y year anniversary,
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have you considered
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reaching out to a
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provider that has an historic boat like
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we usually get those tall ships that
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come into Brockville, someone with a
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boat of medium size that would be uh
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easy to move maneuver through the uh
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lock system and offer an opportunity for
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visitors and perhaps create an
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opportunity to draw in more visitors to
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allow a living history experience to
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have a boat sailboat
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positioned and loaded up with tourists
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and bring them through the lock station
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down to the bottom and then have some
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come back up.
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>> Not take them on a long sail, but just
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» Not take them on a long sail, but just
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allow them the experience
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of going through the locks. number one,
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but number two, doing it in an historic
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sail ship. Is that something that you
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explored uh reaching out to see if there
[14:41]
was any interest for someone that may
[14:44]
want to provide that as an opportunity
[14:47]
uh for the anniversary? Because I think
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living and experiencing the history, you
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we can see it, we can touch it, but to
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actually physically be in a boat and go
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through the system and then come back up
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through the system would be an
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experience probably uh
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that would draw in a huge amount of
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interest into the building. Just a
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thought.
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>> There are people who provide um
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» There are people who provide um
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opportunities like that. Um we we did we
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haven't to date been able to find
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anybody to to do that but it's c it's
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certainly something that we could look
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into in the new year.
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>> I think it it may be an opportunity for
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» I think it it may be an opportunity for
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us to really shine a large spotlight on
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Merrick Wolfford uh the village uh is
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there's going to be a lot of u events
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happening along the canal so it may it
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may put us uh in the number one
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position. just thought about it uh went
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through my head and thought how amazing
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would that be if there was an
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opportunity to partner with someone and
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and offer that
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>> that is a great idea and did we mention
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» that is a great idea and did we mention
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there are two openings on the board
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right now [laughter]
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>> I'm very busy but thank you very much no
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» I'm very busy but thank you very much no
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I just thought it might be that and uh
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you know when you can when you can offer
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especially the young uh the young
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children when you can offer them an
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opportunity like that to actually physic
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basically live and experience history
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rather than see it in a book or you know
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paste it on a wall in a museum somewhere
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but actually uh give them that
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experience. It's something they would
[16:25]
carry with them uh throughout their life
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and uh I just think it might be
[16:29]
something to explore.
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>> Definitely.
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» Definitely.
[16:32]
Well, if there's no further questions or
[16:34]
comments, ladies, I we appreciate your
[16:36]
time and uh the energy you put in this
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and good luck and uh you know, um
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we hope that uh the 200 year anniversary
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role.
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>> We got to go past all all the markers,
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» We got to go past all all the markers,
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right?
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>> And we look forward to letting you in on
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» And we look forward to letting you in on
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some of the other things that we'll be
[16:55]
planning for the year. There'll be some
[16:56]
special invites coming in. So when when
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that happens, we would uh definitely be
[17:02]
excited to receive that. And if there's
[17:03]
an opportunity to bring back uh
[17:05]
yourselves as another delegation for an
[17:07]
update, uh please reach out to staff.
[17:09]
We'd be uh more than happy to have you
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back.
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>> Thank you. Good. Thank you.
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» Thank you. Good. Thank you.
[17:13]
>> Enjoy your evening.
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» Enjoy your evening.
[17:16]
>> So call the vote. All in favor? And
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» So call the vote. All in favor? And
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that's carried. Thank you. Consent
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agenda. All items listed under the
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consent agenda are considered routine
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and no longer require further discussion
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and are enacted in one motion. The
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exception to this rule is that any
[17:32]
member may request that one or more item
[17:34]
be pulled for discussion and voted on
[17:36]
separately. Does any member wish to
[17:39]
separate any of the items on the consent
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agenda and that council of the
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corporation of the village of Merville
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Wolf will receive
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and approve all items on the consent
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agenda as presented and recommended. May
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I have a mover, please? I'll move.
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>> Thank you. Seconder, please.
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» Thank you. Seconder, please.
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>> I'll second.
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» I'll second.
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>> Thank you.
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» Thank you.
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>> Any comments or questions from members?
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» Any comments or questions from members?
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Go ahead, counselor.
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>> I'd like to pull out 726
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» I'd like to pull out 726
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uh the 2025 municipal financial
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indicator threshold profile.
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>> Okay.
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» Okay.
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Any any others?
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None. Okay. So, we're going to call the
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vote on the consent agenda minus 7.2.
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2.6 is that correct counselor
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>> 7.2.6
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» 7.2.6
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>> minus that. Okay.
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» minus that. Okay.
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>> All those in favor
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» All those in favor
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>> carry. Thank you.
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» carry. Thank you.
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So we will now uh cons I don't have it
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in front of me. Uh clerk could you read
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7 uh.2.6 please. Thank you.
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>> Yes. So it would just be that the
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» Yes. So it would just be that the
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council of the corporation the village
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of Mer Wolfford received for information
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item 7.2.6 six being the 2025 municipal
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financial indicator threshold and
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profile.
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>> So, may I have a mover, please?
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» So, may I have a mover, please?
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>> Thank you. Seconder, please.
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» Thank you. Seconder, please.
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>> I'll second.
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» I'll second.
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>> Thank you. Moved and seconded. The floor
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» Thank you. Moved and seconded. The floor
[19:03]
is open for questions. Go ahead,
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counselor. You moved.
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>> Thank you. Um, lots of interesting
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» Thank you. Um, lots of interesting
[19:09]
information here. One thing that did
[19:12]
sort of stand out to me
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was on page the first page of the
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financial indicator review near the
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bottom it says annual surplus slash
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deficit as a percent of own source
[19:27]
revenues.
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So, I'm looking at the numbers and we're
[19:35]
we appear to be substantially above our
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neighbors
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that make up the uh comparison group.
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So, I just want to get clarification.
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So, for 2024,
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our number looks like 23%.
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So, am I reading that right? That we had
[19:56]
a surplus of 23%. [clears throat]
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Um, so we're in other words 23% below
[20:04]
budget. Is that how I read that? Like
[20:06]
where where does that come from? No, I
[20:08]
think what it does is it compares the
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overall
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like sized like circumstance
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municipalities and we're in the range of
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we're in the low range which is good of
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the how much we need to offset the if
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I'm looking at the right one here.
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>> Yeah. Generally I think the auditor says
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» Yeah. Generally I think the auditor says
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we're within 5% of our budget.
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>> Yeah.
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» Yeah.
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>> You know the Yeah.
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» You know the Yeah.
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>> Yeah. That's what I expected like 23
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» Yeah. That's what I expected like 23
[20:36]
stood out to me. How how is it 23%. It
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doesn't make any sense. So,
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>> we'll have to look into that and get
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» we'll have to look into that and get
[20:42]
back to you. But our our surpluses
[20:43]
generally will be within 5% of the
[20:45]
budget, which is generally where you
[20:46]
want to see them.
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>> Yeah.
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» Yeah.
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>> Right.
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» Right.
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>> Okay. If you could get back to me, I
[20:50]
» Okay. If you could get back to me, I
[20:50]
appreciate it.
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>> And if I could add this um these are
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» And if I could add this um these are
[20:55]
based on the FIR data and that's one
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snapshot in time at year end. So it
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could very well be that at year end
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there was a lot of outstanding um area
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that hasn't been accounted for. So it's
[21:10]
just one snapshot in time at the FIR at
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year end. So we can get it we can look
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into that.
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>> Great. Thanks.
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» Great. Thanks.
[21:18]
>> That's all I have. Any other questions
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» That's all I have. Any other questions
[21:20]
or comments? So you're comfortable
[21:22]
moving forward with it or
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>> Yeah. So staff will reach out to and
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» Yeah. So staff will reach out to and
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supply the answer to all members.
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>> Yeah.
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» Yeah.
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>> Thank you. So no further questions. I'll
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» Thank you. So no further questions. I'll
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call the vote. All in favor? It's
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carried. Thank you. We go on to planning
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matters. Bylaw bylaw 56205
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open air uh burn bylaw the council
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corporation of village of Marville
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Wolfford. Give first, second, third
[21:43]
final reading to bylaw 56205 being an
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open air bylaw for the village of
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Marville Wolfford and further that
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authorization be given to the mayor
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clerk the signed seal and place in the
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bylaw book for the Minnesota Valley
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bylaw number 56205. May I have a mover,
[21:59]
please?
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>> Thank you. Seconder, please. I'll second
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» Thank you. Seconder, please. I'll second
[22:03]
them. Thank you. Comments or questions
[22:06]
from members, please.
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» Could we have the uh the chief summarize
[22:13]
the changes from the last time we
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discussed the Miss Blumbley?
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>> Sure. If you'd like to speak to that, go
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» Sure. If you'd like to speak to that, go
[22:18]
ahead. Yeah. Through your worship. Uh so
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uh the ask was uh that I review the work
[22:24]
on section 10 and provide um
[22:29]
the change in the inspection and
[22:30]
timelines. That's been changed in
[22:32]
section 10. Uh it now uh states
[22:37]
um that it'll be inspected and then the
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permit will be issued. Um so that change
[22:42]
has been made. Uh the other asked was
[22:45]
review and edit the wording under
[22:46]
section 103 to make it less rigid. Uh we
[22:49]
did do that as well. Um previously it
[22:52]
had asked for the compression as a um as
[22:55]
well as the um air purification stuff.
[22:58]
We have changed that to just a uh
[23:01]
ignition engine uh that is in good
[23:04]
repair as not to cause large amounts of
[23:06]
emission. We change that wording. Uh the
[23:09]
other request was uh include a
[23:11]
definition on a bonfire um provisions
[23:14]
for that. So, um, instead of doing a
[23:17]
bonfire, I did a large, uh, fire or a
[23:21]
large campfire. Uh, so that kind of
[23:23]
defines it, um, a fire that's bigger.
[23:26]
Our general one is 24 in x 24 in. Uh,
[23:30]
this one's 48 in x 48 in. Uh, with what
[23:34]
I feel is acceptable parameters around
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it for safety of neighbors.
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Uh and believe that was uh all I had
[23:43]
that uh you were asked to change. Uh and
[23:45]
all those corrections have been or sorry
[23:47]
all those changes been made um with the
[23:50]
new version in front of you
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>> and the big one was the uh the exemption
[23:55]
» and the big one was the uh the exemption
[23:55]
for farming.
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>> Yeah.
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» Yeah.
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>> Did you mention
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» Did you mention
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>> Oh yeah, sorry. That was Yeah, that was
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» Oh yeah, sorry. That was Yeah, that was
[24:00]
done in the previous one.
[24:01]
>> Yeah, that one has changed the
[24:03]
» Yeah, that one has changed the
[24:03]
agricultural one. Yeah, we took out uh
[24:06]
Sorry, I should have highlighted it. My
[24:07]
apologies.
[24:12]
Uh so the agricultural one yeah so it
[24:14]
was I took out the the three days is
[24:16]
completely gone that section has been
[24:18]
removed um and instead it just uh states
[24:21]
that every person who sets a fire under
[24:23]
the provisions of this subsection shall
[24:24]
file an application with the
[24:25]
municipality as per section six. It
[24:28]
indicates who will keep watch until the
[24:30]
fire is completely extinguished and
[24:31]
shall provide sufficient personnel,
[24:34]
appliances, and equipment to prevent the
[24:35]
fire from becoming a nuisance or
[24:37]
dangerous to life and property.
[24:40]
So that section of 3D stuff has been
[24:44]
completely removed. Um, and also uh
[24:47]
attached to that uh you would see we've
[24:50]
separated it out. So there's a
[24:51]
residential burn permit and agricultural
[24:53]
burn permit. and they both echo the same
[24:56]
thing on both sides just for clarity.
[24:58]
Um, but it just gives us an idea of what
[25:00]
uh we might be responding to or who's
[25:03]
burning. But those visions been taken
[25:06]
up.
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>> Any other questions for members?
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» Any other questions for members?
[25:11]
>> I think the inclusion of the maps is a
[25:13]
» I think the inclusion of the maps is a
[25:13]
good idea too because that defines the
[25:15]
areas that are are restricted. So, and
[25:18]
it it meets the purpose of why we don't
[25:20]
want it there. So did you I didn't I
[25:22]
misheard did you say maps? Yeah. Okay.
[25:25]
>> The maps and the handler areas.
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» The maps and the handler areas.
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>> Yes.
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» Yes.
[25:28]
Go ahead councelor.
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>> Yeah. So that's great. Thanks for making
[25:30]
» Yeah. So that's great. Thanks for making
[25:30]
those changes. That's much better. Um
[25:32]
very minor comments left. Uh just with
[25:35]
respect to the uh the agricultural act
[25:38]
that you had referred to. Would it be
[25:40]
worthwhile to include that in the
[25:42]
whereas up right up front that with the
[25:45]
exemption for agricultural activities
[25:49]
>> and state the the section that you
[25:51]
» and state the the section that you
[25:51]
quoted to us in the email that day?
[25:54]
>> Uh through your worship we we we could
[25:58]
» Uh through your worship we we we could
[25:58]
but I think with taking that entire
[26:00]
section out to require them for
[26:02]
inspection or anything of that it kind
[26:03]
of becomes a mute point at at this time.
[26:06]
I think we're not really requesting
[26:08]
anything other than that they give um
[26:11]
kind of the distances for safe burning
[26:12]
is the only thing we're we're asking
[26:14]
now. And that was uh that's the exact
[26:16]
same parameters as uh what was in the
[26:18]
previous bylaw if I haven't changed
[26:20]
anything there at all.
[26:23]
And one other
[26:25]
little one 1235
[26:27]
um the flame height for the uh large
[26:30]
campfire for rural areas in other words
[26:33]
the bonfire. Um
[26:36]
2 meters seems a little restrictive
[26:38]
considering you can pile the wood like
[26:41]
four feet high. So that once that gets
[26:44]
rolling the flame is going to be I I I'd
[26:46]
suggest 3 mters instead of two
[26:50]
or three or so it was it was kind of a
[26:54]
I I can pass guess. Um we we do know the
[26:57]
flames are going to go higher than that.
[26:59]
Um, but we also wanted to be kind of um
[27:03]
aware of the more you pile on that fire,
[27:06]
the more radiant heat is going to come
[27:08]
off of that, which then would probably
[27:10]
require a bit more parameter around the
[27:12]
fire. Um, it's hard to explain. I guess
[27:16]
it's more of an experience uh from being
[27:18]
up close to these fires, the radiant
[27:20]
heat that comes off that, the damage it
[27:22]
can cause uh to surrounding stuff. Um,
[27:25]
so that was that was the thought process
[27:26]
behind that. Um but again uh it's up to
[27:30]
council if they do want to make a change
[27:33]
but this this is my recommendation for
[27:35]
for height size.
[27:40]
Does council have an appetite to make a
[27:42]
change on that or are you satisfied with
[27:44]
the way the 2 meters versus the 3
[27:47]
meters? Go ahead.
[27:50]
» I have no experience in fighting fires.
[27:53]
I have very little knowledge about
[27:56]
managing fires and I am most comfortable
[27:59]
relying on the recommendations from the
[28:01]
chief. Um I think he's been
[28:05]
accommodating to allow us another size
[28:09]
of fire and I wouldn't want to push what
[28:12]
he recommends beyond what he recommends.
[28:17]
>> Councelor, did you echo uh deputy mayor
[28:19]
» Councelor, did you echo uh deputy mayor
[28:19]
bars sentence? Uh, councelor Maitlin,
[28:22]
>> I have no problem with the 2meter. Okay.
[28:25]
» I have no problem with the 2meter. Okay.
[28:25]
So, you're okay with sticking with the 2
[28:28]
meter?
[28:28]
>> Uh, not really, but uh, it's not going
[28:30]
» Uh, not really, but uh, it's not going
[28:30]
to be the wish of council to do that.
[28:32]
So, we'll go forward.
[28:33]
>> So, I think we've we've um, any other
[28:36]
» So, I think we've we've um, any other
[28:36]
questions or comments?
[28:39]
Uh, Chief, could you just
[28:43]
uh rattle my brain here? For backyard
[28:46]
campfires, they have to be called in,
[28:48]
correct? Correct. And is there a fee?
[28:50]
>> No, not at this time.
[28:51]
» No, not at this time.
[28:51]
>> There's no fee for your backyard fire.
[28:54]
» There's no fee for your backyard fire.
[28:54]
>> No. Okay.
[28:54]
» No. Okay.
[28:54]
>> There's no fee for any fire at this
[28:56]
» There's no fee for any fire at this
[28:56]
time.
[28:57]
>> Okay. So, just wanted to publicly have
[29:00]
» Okay. So, just wanted to publicly have
[29:00]
that stated because uh of course uh the
[29:04]
avenue of social media is never wrong,
[29:06]
but there's indications about
[29:09]
the the sky falling, the walls are
[29:12]
falling in, and we're have to pay for
[29:13]
everything. I think the point that we're
[29:16]
trying to get across here is that uh the
[29:18]
fire department is aware in case there's
[29:21]
a need to respond. So there's no fees
[29:24]
attached to any of that. Appreciate it.
[29:26]
That's all I wanted to know. Just wanted
[29:28]
it publicly said. So, if there's anybody
[29:31]
listening out there uh in the world uh
[29:33]
that you know uh your backyard fire is
[29:36]
still uh your backyard fire, you don't
[29:38]
have to pay to have one, but you need to
[29:40]
call it in uh in case uh there's a
[29:42]
response needed. The fire department
[29:44]
understands what's required to respond
[29:47]
to that particular call. Thank you,
[29:49]
Chief.
[29:51]
So, if there's no further comments or
[29:53]
questions, I will call the vote. All
[29:56]
those in favor and that is carried
[29:58]
opposed. Sorry. Opposed. Thank you. So
[30:03]
carried. Staff reports. Public uh public
[30:06]
works department
[30:08]
fire department bylaw enforcement uh
[30:12]
department activity update that the
[30:13]
council of the corporation of the
[30:14]
village of Merville will receive for
[30:16]
information the departmental activity
[30:18]
update as presented. May I have a mover
[30:20]
please?
[30:22]
And move.
[30:22]
>> Thank you. Seconder, please. No second.
[30:25]
» Thank you. Seconder, please. No second.
[30:25]
>> Thank you. comments or questions from
[30:27]
» Thank you. comments or questions from
[30:27]
members, please.
[30:32]
Anything further uh staff would like to
[30:34]
add? Uh Miss Bumbling,
[30:36]
>> if that would be up to
[30:38]
» if that would be up to
[30:38]
>> fire sheet pool if he wants to add
[30:39]
» fire sheet pool if he wants to add
[30:39]
anything.
[30:40]
>> Maybe just really put your words up if
[30:41]
» Maybe just really put your words up if
[30:41]
you don't mind.
[30:42]
>> Certainly. Just that uh just to make
[30:44]
» Certainly. Just that uh just to make
[30:44]
council aware of the fire protection
[30:46]
grant that we were successful in for
[30:48]
year two. Um when we're going to be
[30:51]
receiving uh just shy of $20,000 to go
[30:54]
towards uh new uh coveralls and PPE for
[30:58]
the firefighters.
[31:00]
>> Yes. Uh
[31:02]
» Yes. Uh
[31:02]
it was fantastic to hear that
[31:03]
announcement and uh much appreciated.
[31:06]
Uh yeah, I think the exact amount is
[31:09]
19,626.
[31:10]
So um some good dollars for us. We do
[31:14]
appreciate it. So if there's no further
[31:15]
comments or questions, I'll call vote.
[31:16]
All in favor? Carried. Thank you.
[31:20]
Uh 10 22 pumper truck pumper tank tanker
[31:24]
truck condition update and
[31:26]
recommendations of the council
[31:27]
corporation of the village of Mer Wolver
[31:30]
receive for information report on the
[31:32]
deterior condition of one of the fire
[31:35]
department's frontline pumper tanker
[31:37]
effects and that the council review and
[31:40]
approve the recommendation option one as
[31:43]
outlined in the report and direct staff
[31:45]
to work with the desired company to
[31:48]
purchase a new pumper tanker with
[31:51]
simultane well well simultaneously
[31:53]
moving into a lease agreement with
[31:55]
Elizabeth Town Kitley to lease a pumper
[31:57]
tanker until delivery of the proposed
[31:59]
new truck at the end of February. May I
[32:01]
have a mover, please?
[32:03]
>> I'll move.
[32:03]
» I'll move.
[32:03]
>> Thank you. Seconder, please.
[32:05]
» Thank you. Seconder, please.
[32:05]
>> Second.
[32:06]
» Second.
[32:06]
>> Okay. Any comments or questions from
[32:09]
» Okay. Any comments or questions from
[32:09]
members?
[32:15]
or would staff like to would you like to
[32:17]
wait for staff to give you some
[32:18]
>> I would prefer hearing more from staff
[32:23]
» I would prefer hearing more from staff
[32:23]
>> uh through your worship. So uh um so
[32:26]
» uh through your worship. So uh um so
[32:26]
this truck was uh was a recommendation
[32:28]
of staff and 24 to put um a larger sum
[32:33]
away um with the potential to tender
[32:36]
that year uh for the truck but uh
[32:38]
unfortunately it didn't move forward on
[32:40]
the uh budget. Uh it was again a request
[32:43]
of staff in 25 uh to put another sum of
[32:47]
money away um with the option to tender
[32:50]
again uh for the replacement of this
[32:52]
truck. Um then again it didn't make the
[32:54]
budget unfortunately but we've come to a
[32:57]
predicament now where um this truck has
[33:00]
come to end of life. Uh our mechanic has
[33:03]
uh tried to do the annual inspection.
[33:05]
Sorry, he did the annual inspection but
[33:07]
it is not going to pass. Um it uh in the
[33:11]
pictures I provided to council. I didn't
[33:12]
print them off to save paper, but the
[33:14]
pictures that were provided to council
[33:16]
uh shows extreme frame separation. Um
[33:20]
the cab mounts are rusted out. Uh the
[33:23]
floor is rusted out. Unfortunately,
[33:25]
being a 27y old truck and hauling water,
[33:29]
um it's kind of life is always being
[33:32]
wet. Um so, uh we've tried to be
[33:36]
diligent. This truck was identified as
[33:38]
well in our asset management plan and
[33:40]
our financial plan for this year as
[33:42]
replacement um for a much larger sum uh
[33:48]
95,000.
[33:49]
Um staff have been able to work with a
[33:52]
few different companies to we've kind of
[33:54]
gone back and forth. We've been able to
[33:56]
uh have the option of securing a truck
[33:58]
that's uh 645,000.
[34:01]
Uh we've gone from uh what you generally
[34:04]
see in our fire fire station being a
[34:07]
custom cab truck that would seat um six
[34:10]
people um to be more uh you know frugal
[34:14]
with the money. We've looked at a a
[34:16]
conventional cab that will only move two
[34:18]
bodies, but that's fine. Um which brings
[34:21]
the price tag down considerably. Um then
[34:25]
we uh we there is a truck that will be
[34:27]
available um mid to end of February. Um
[34:32]
provide a recommendation from our
[34:34]
insurance company in here as well. Um
[34:37]
we've also reached out uh to neighboring
[34:39]
departments um to see if if this isn't
[34:43]
the will of council that we we move into
[34:45]
automatic aid agreements. Um just so
[34:48]
council is aware. Uh, I've only received
[34:51]
word back from two [sighs]
[34:53]
out of four departments that would
[34:55]
potentially have to provide that service
[34:57]
for us. Um, the other two have not
[35:00]
replied back yet. Uh, so the other
[35:03]
option for kind of backup protection uh
[35:06]
was this tank that lives Town Kitley
[35:08]
has. Uh, it is a used truck as well and
[35:11]
will be going out of service uh, midway
[35:13]
through 2026. Uh but they do it still
[35:16]
has its annual safety till the middle of
[35:18]
of 26 and they have agreed to lease it
[35:21]
to us
[35:22]
in a time period of this council's will
[35:25]
to get a new vehicle. They will lease us
[35:27]
that truck for a couple months until the
[35:28]
new one could come in. Um the tanker
[35:32]
shuttle accreditation
[35:34]
they have agreed to extend it. If we
[35:36]
hold the list of Tam Kitley's truck for
[35:38]
the couple months, uh if we do not move
[35:40]
forward with a new truck and we have to
[35:42]
secure automatic aid agreements, we will
[35:44]
lose our tanker accredititation. Um as
[35:46]
well as meeting our response times,
[35:49]
unfortunately.
[35:51]
Um I do apologize it kind of comes to
[35:54]
council as a a single source again. Um
[35:58]
it's not ideal for us either,
[35:59]
unfortunately. We would much prefer to
[36:01]
to tender. Um, but unfortunately that's
[36:05]
the case we're in at this point that we
[36:06]
would have to look for a a single source
[36:09]
and approval from council to do that to
[36:11]
replace this drug.
[36:14]
» Mayor question.
[36:16]
>> I I think it's clear that staff have
[36:19]
» I I think it's clear that staff have
[36:19]
tried for two years, this is the third
[36:22]
year to bring this matter to a a
[36:25]
solution, a resolution that would have
[36:27]
allowed them to to issue tenders.
[36:31]
Um, it does seem that it is time for
[36:35]
this truck to be replaced.
[36:38]
I applaud their efforts to reduce the
[36:40]
cost from down from 900,000.
[36:44]
Um, and I look forward to hearing what
[36:46]
other members of council have to say.
[36:51]
>> Go ahead, council. Uh yeah, I'm not sure
[36:55]
» Go ahead, council. Uh yeah, I'm not sure
[36:55]
what the lifespan general lifespan of a
[36:57]
large uh pumper truck is, but 27 years
[37:00]
seems like you've uh it's put in it's
[37:02]
put in its time. Um it's it's the cost
[37:05]
of doing business in in an emergency for
[37:07]
emergency vehicles. Um you have, as you
[37:10]
said, you brought the cost down from
[37:11]
what you proposed from previous years.
[37:14]
Um and then I do um and every every
[37:17]
other reason you gave it in terms of
[37:19]
losing accreditation all those ideas
[37:21]
getting a new truck um is actually for
[37:25]
benefit for the uh municipality. I don't
[37:27]
think residents want to see us losing
[37:29]
our pumper truck and then having to
[37:31]
depend on the neighboring u
[37:33]
municipalities to respond when we when
[37:35]
at this point in time we do have
[37:37]
response within the municipality. Um, so
[37:40]
I I I I applaud staff for presenting the
[37:43]
report the way they did and for coming
[37:45]
back with a less costly option in the
[37:48]
works. On top of that,
[37:51]
>> yeah, I'm in favor of option one. I
[37:53]
» yeah, I'm in favor of option one. I
[37:53]
think keeping the gradation is very
[37:54]
important. Uh, yeah, I'm glad it's
[37:57]
645,000 900,000. So, makes it a little
[38:01]
easier when you say it that way.
[38:06]
» Yeah. So spending better part of a
[38:08]
million dollars on a truck, I would want
[38:10]
to see more information about the fleet
[38:14]
in general and where we stand with
[38:16]
respect to what the requirements are
[38:20]
from the fire um marshall's office.
[38:25]
Um
[38:28]
there's some confusion here that I it
[38:32]
don't isn't it a tanker truck that's it
[38:35]
>> that we're talking replacing with a
[38:38]
» that we're talking replacing with a
[38:38]
pumper tanker which is a much more
[38:40]
expensive type of vehicle right here you
[38:43]
worship. So um yes and no. So what we
[38:47]
currently have is it is a pumper tanker
[38:50]
um but it's a tanker with a pump on it.
[38:53]
The one we have, it's a 500 gpm pump on
[38:55]
it. Uh, which we have always struggled
[38:58]
with to provide pressures at a fire for
[39:01]
offloading or mutual aid or automatic
[39:04]
aid stuff due to just we can't get the
[39:07]
volume out of that. Um, the replacement
[39:10]
is a pumper tanker, which is what most
[39:12]
departments go with now, and it is only
[39:14]
a,00 gpm pump as opposed to our pumper
[39:18]
truck, which is a,450
[39:21]
gpm pump. uh to meet that standard. So,
[39:24]
[sighs and gasps]
[39:25]
it's it's kind of a light truck. It is
[39:27]
it is a touch different. I will 100%
[39:29]
admit that. Um and I'm not trying to
[39:31]
pull the wool over council's eyes. It's
[39:33]
just that's the new tankers out now.
[39:36]
They they have a pump on them. It's
[39:38]
pretty rare to just get to find just a
[39:41]
straight tanker. And I did look um and
[39:44]
and there is no just plain tankers. They
[39:46]
all have a pump on them because they
[39:48]
need some way to offload under pressure.
[39:50]
Um they just
[39:52]
Only in certain situations do we rear
[39:54]
dump into the truck. The way our system
[39:57]
is set up in all of our neighboring
[39:58]
municipalities, uh we have phases of
[40:01]
water supply, one, two, and three. Phase
[40:03]
one and two are pressurized um water
[40:06]
supply to a pumper truck from that
[40:09]
truck. And then phase three is the only
[40:11]
one where we would actually dump in
[40:13]
quarter tanks. Um, but we need that
[40:15]
pressure to to meet um the requirement
[40:18]
to get water off that truck uh as
[40:20]
quickly as we can to the to the pumper
[40:22]
truck to attack the fire faster.
[40:25]
Um, did I answer your question? I
[40:27]
apologize.
[40:28]
>> Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Um, didn't we buy a
[40:31]
» Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Um, didn't we buy a
[40:31]
pumper tanker in 2022 and then
[40:34]
previously in 2017ish?
[40:37]
>> Uh, no. Through your worship. So in 2016
[40:40]
» Uh, no. Through your worship. So in 2016
[40:40]
uh the previous chief uh did get a of
[40:43]
the tanker uh which carries 2500 gallons
[40:46]
of water. Uh 22 we got a pumper. Um now
[40:50]
they do carry 1,000 gallons of water on
[40:52]
it which was a larger capacity uh that
[40:55]
we got. Um and then the truck we would
[40:58]
be looking to replace is a tanker with
[41:00]
3,000 gallons of water on it. And that's
[41:02]
what we would be looking to replace it
[41:04]
with is another truck that carries 3,000
[41:06]
gallons. So, we in order for us to do a
[41:10]
an initial attack on a rural fire, um we
[41:13]
require that roughly 7,000 gallons up
[41:16]
front to to slow that fire down. And
[41:20]
then even after that, we generally call
[41:22]
in mutual aid uh for another tanker uh
[41:26]
from a neighboring department to come in
[41:27]
and get into the the rotation, sometimes
[41:31]
two more trucks uh depending on the
[41:32]
scale of the fire. And then we offer
[41:34]
that same service to the neighboring
[41:36]
departments through the mutual aid
[41:38]
program.
[41:41]
>> Um, another followup, please. Go ahead.
[41:44]
» Um, another followup, please. Go ahead.
[41:44]
Wouldn't wouldn't the two trucks we have
[41:47]
purchased in 2022 and 2016 meet our
[41:50]
requirements for
[41:54]
response? Um,
[41:58]
so there isn't any real sorry through
[42:01]
your there isn't any real set amount of
[42:05]
water you have to have to bring to a
[42:07]
fire. Um, but from experience and doing
[42:11]
this for almost 20 years now. Um, I mean
[42:15]
the NFPA1 1901 does speak to apparatus
[42:19]
and water supply and that sort of stuff.
[42:21]
It doesn't say you shall have a certain
[42:23]
amount of water, but uh you shall have
[42:25]
an adequate amount of water to fight the
[42:27]
fire. To do a rural fire um even at two
[42:31]
tanker trucks with the pumper truck at
[42:33]
7,000 gallons is generally not enough
[42:35]
water um to fight the fire and we have
[42:38]
to bring in um neighboring departments
[42:41]
from mutual aid.
[42:43]
Just to explain a little bit further, if
[42:45]
we were to take one tanker out of
[42:47]
service and only have one tanker in the
[42:49]
municipality, we can no longer provide
[42:51]
mutual aid to a neighboring department
[42:53]
because we can't release that tanker out
[42:55]
of our jurisdiction in case we have a
[42:57]
fire. Once we do that, we can't provide
[43:00]
mutual aid. So, we can't request mutual
[43:02]
aid under the mutual aid agreement.
[43:05]
So, we have a double-edged sword there.
[43:08]
we lose water as well as we can't ask
[43:10]
for water technically to come in. Would
[43:13]
a neighboring department refuse us? I
[43:15]
don't know, but they could. Um I would
[43:18]
hope they wouldn't. But under the mutual
[43:21]
aid plan for Ontario in the agreement,
[43:23]
it does state you have to be able to
[43:24]
provide it to ask for it. You have to
[43:26]
exhaust all of your capabilities first
[43:28]
before you can request mutual aid from
[43:30]
the neighboring department.
[43:32]
>> Could I just ask a clarification please?
[43:34]
» Could I just ask a clarification please?
[43:34]
Yes. um 2017 and the 2022. You said they
[43:38]
had the capability of carrying a water,
[43:40]
but then you said if we were to remove
[43:42]
one, we'd be down to one, but those two
[43:45]
are not the two that we're considering
[43:46]
to remove. It's another one that we're
[43:48]
considering removing.
[43:49]
>> So, would that not still leave us with
[43:51]
» So, would that not still leave us with
[43:51]
two tankers?
[43:52]
>> Uh, no. Your worship. So, the pumper is
[43:55]
» Uh, no. Your worship. So, the pumper is
[43:55]
strictly a pumper with water on it. Um,
[43:57]
it can only pump water out. It can't
[43:59]
dump water or anything like that. It can
[44:00]
only pump out what it has on the truck.
[44:03]
uh where the tankers can do both. They
[44:06]
can pump it out or they can just dump
[44:07]
the water into a tank and then carry on.
[44:10]
Um they are considerably cheaper. Uh in
[44:12]
cost for this 645, if we were to look at
[44:16]
replacing that pumper truck right now,
[44:18]
we would be um and I speak from a
[44:20]
neighboring department that has done it
[44:22]
uh just right at the million dollar
[44:24]
mark. um to replace the pumper with
[44:27]
1,000 gallons on it versus the pumper
[44:29]
tanker with 3,000 gallons and a th00and
[44:32]
gpm pump at 645.
[44:35]
So when I say we would lose a tanker, we
[44:37]
would lose we don't consider the pump
[44:41]
five to be a tanker at all. It's
[44:43]
strictly a frontline pumper which is
[44:45]
required under NFPA and it has to be
[44:47]
under the 20-year mark to be a frontline
[44:49]
pumper. Um, and then our two tankers,
[44:52]
uh, our support vehicles for that pump
[44:55]
are out of fire.
[44:59]
» Go ahead, Tiffany.
[45:00]
>> Um, forgive me if I've missed it
[45:02]
» Um, forgive me if I've missed it
[45:02]
somewhere in the in the package, but we
[45:05]
talked about how this was funded yet.
[45:10]
» That's why I didn't see that.
[45:12]
>> Okay. So,
[45:12]
» Okay. So,
[45:12]
>> yeah. Um well to fully fund the uh the
[45:15]
» yeah. Um well to fully fund the uh the
[45:15]
tanker through our fleet and equip
[45:17]
reserve uh the estimated transfer to
[45:19]
this reserve in 2026 would be
[45:21]
approximately 700,000. Um any remaining
[45:25]
amounts to be funded uh we we're
[45:27]
projecting a year-end balance in the
[45:29]
fleet and equipment reserve this year uh
[45:32]
estimated to be about 280,527
[45:35]
so that could be utilized as well. So
[45:38]
we're hoping to fund it through reserves
[45:40]
rather than borrow.
[45:42]
>> Thank you.
[45:45]
» Thank you.
[45:45]
>> So
[45:47]
» So
[45:47]
can I ask clarification?
[45:50]
So if we have 280 in the reserves,
[45:54]
could we also consider just funding it
[45:56]
with 400,000 and using the reserves to
[45:58]
offset the additional cost for the
[46:01]
tanker?
[46:02]
>> That's council.
[46:03]
» That's council.
[46:03]
>> Yeah, that'll be council discussion.
[46:05]
» Yeah, that'll be council discussion.
[46:05]
[clears throat]
[46:06]
want to know all the options.
[46:09]
>> Go ahead.
[46:09]
» Go ahead.
[46:09]
>> Um, is there a
[46:13]
» Um, is there a
[46:13]
the amount of volume you get to keep
[46:14]
your shuttle in creditation to get lower
[46:17]
insurance? There are speed involved in
[46:18]
how much you can dump off first?
[46:20]
>> Correct. Yeah. So, we would require you
[46:23]
» Correct. Yeah. So, we would require you
[46:23]
have to you have to have a pumper and
[46:25]
two tankers and then even at that we
[46:27]
have to bring in a third tanker from a
[46:29]
neighboring municipality to meet the
[46:31]
accreditation limits. um you have to for
[46:35]
residential you have to be able to pump
[46:36]
200 gallons per minute uh for an hour
[46:40]
and then commercial um is 400 gallons
[46:43]
per minute um for an hour without any
[46:46]
interruptions. You have to be set up in
[46:47]
under five minutes. The only way to do
[46:50]
that is to have um the pumper command
[46:52]
utilize its water, the two tankers dump
[46:55]
and then the third tanker from a
[46:56]
neighboring municipality comes in.
[46:59]
And if I'm not mistaken, that's how um
[47:02]
the insurance rates are reduced for the
[47:04]
rural areas.
[47:05]
>> That's correct.
[47:06]
» That's correct.
[47:06]
>> Yes.
[47:07]
» Yes.
[47:07]
>> So for clarification, if I may, um so if
[47:11]
» So for clarification, if I may, um so if
[47:12]
we if we lost that accreditation,
[47:14]
obviously
[47:16]
CO just said the insurance rates would
[47:18]
go up for the people in the rural area.
[47:22]
>> Uh would it not affect the people in the
[47:24]
» Uh would it not affect the people in the
[47:24]
village as well
[47:27]
>> because of the fire hydrants? Probably
[47:28]
» because of the fire hydrants? Probably
[47:28]
not. answer your not not so much in the
[47:31]
the rural village now because we only uh
[47:34]
can offer 500 gallons per minute from
[47:37]
our hydrants. That's our max flow. Uh we
[47:39]
do utilize our tankers in town as well.
[47:42]
Um but it is more the rural residents
[47:45]
that receive the the reduction. Now I do
[47:48]
know there is some people in town uh
[47:50]
that have um called my assistant Jenny
[47:53]
and and asked for the accredititation
[47:55]
number and stuff too to use it for their
[47:57]
insurance. Uh so there may be people in
[47:59]
town that are utilizing as well, but we
[48:00]
have had several callins for the for the
[48:02]
residential people that are uh
[48:04]
benefiting from it and and some people
[48:06]
are saying they've received a 15% or
[48:10]
more decrease in their own service. Go
[48:13]
ahead, Miss B.
[48:14]
>> If council chooses to proceed with this
[48:15]
» If council chooses to proceed with this
[48:16]
purchase, it might be a good idea to
[48:18]
repost that on our Facebook page so that
[48:20]
people are aware of the of the
[48:22]
opportunity um kind of those together.
[48:25]
So yeah. So, for clarification, if I'm
[48:28]
Oh, sorry. Go ahead, council. You go
[48:30]
ahead and ask your question.
[48:31]
>> Um, I've got to think there's a less
[48:34]
» Um, I've got to think there's a less
[48:34]
costly option to replace the existing
[48:38]
27y old truck with something more
[48:41]
uh comparable to that, which is just a
[48:43]
tanker with a pump for maybe half the
[48:46]
cost. Wouldn't there be
[48:49]
>> through your I haven't been able to find
[48:51]
» through your I haven't been able to find
[48:51]
anything. That's the the cheapest truck
[48:53]
I have found. But I even looked um for
[48:56]
used vehicles and stuff. Uh anything
[48:58]
used was basically in the same condition
[49:01]
as this. Somebody already taken it out
[49:02]
of service. Um
[49:06]
yeah, I I honestly I I had no luck
[49:09]
finding anything other than this. This
[49:11]
is kind of the the new tanker. They have
[49:13]
a they have a pump on them. And I even I
[49:15]
looked at all our neighboring
[49:16]
municipalities, what they're running.
[49:18]
They're all running the exact same type
[49:20]
of vehicle. Um, and it's that capability
[49:23]
to pressurize that water coming off that
[49:26]
truck to be able to to get it to the the
[49:28]
pumper be, you know, if it's a we we see
[49:31]
laneways that are half a kilometer long
[49:33]
and we have to move water from the
[49:34]
roadway up to the to the house. Um, and
[49:37]
we have to do that under pressure. So,
[49:39]
we're not having enough apparatus to to
[49:42]
do that. Uh because the pumper has to be
[49:44]
up at the fire and then we have to
[49:46]
utilize those tankers down the road
[49:48]
pressurizing the water up to the to the
[49:50]
pumper to fight the fire. um just uh
[49:53]
even if I if I could find just a basic
[49:55]
tanker, we would struggle because then
[49:57]
we would have to take the other pumper
[49:59]
tanker we currently have and it would
[50:01]
have to sit in the road and pump and we
[50:03]
would then be down another truck again.
[50:07]
[clears throat]
[50:08]
>> Go ahead, counselor.
[50:09]
» Go ahead, counselor.
[50:09]
>> Yeah, my position is um we do the option
[50:12]
» Yeah, my position is um we do the option
[50:12]
that uh keeps our service seamless uh
[50:15]
what our current service is. Um it's
[50:18]
it's an emergency vehicle and it's uh
[50:20]
something that has to be able to
[50:22]
withstand pretty rough driving. Um it's
[50:24]
not going to be cheap. Um and and like I
[50:26]
said, staff has brought the cost down.
[50:28]
It's a service I think our residents uh
[50:32]
hazard to say our residents want to want
[50:34]
to keep. I don't think people in the
[50:35]
rural areas want to see their insurance
[50:37]
go up either. Um I I said I think it's
[50:40]
well explained in in the report. It's it
[50:42]
when you're dealing with such a small
[50:44]
fleet, you're when one goal is you're
[50:46]
going to have to replace one of them.
[50:47]
That's just um that's that's going to be
[50:48]
how it is. So I I I still support this.
[50:52]
Go ahead, counselor.
[50:54]
>> So my opinion is we should be going out
[50:56]
» So my opinion is we should be going out
[50:56]
to tender for something comparable to uh
[51:00]
what we have now in order to reduce this
[51:04]
cost. This is this is too much to bear
[51:07]
right now for this municipality and
[51:10]
we're trying to
[51:11]
repair infrastructure.
[51:14]
Um,
[51:16]
so the question is we would have we
[51:18]
would then have three pumper tankers if
[51:21]
we bought this one, right?
[51:23]
>> No, two two pumper tankers, one pumper.
[51:27]
» No, two two pumper tankers, one pumper.
[51:27]
[clears throat]
[51:28]
>> And which one is the pumper? The 2016 or
[51:30]
» And which one is the pumper? The 2016 or
[51:30]
the 2022?
[51:34]
>> And what do our surrounding
[51:35]
» And what do our surrounding
[51:36]
municipalities have in general compared
[51:38]
to that?
[51:40]
Um, so North Grumble has three pumper
[51:44]
tankers, uh, two pumpers,
[51:47]
um, Lizardtown Kitley has three pumper
[51:50]
tankers,
[51:52]
um, three pumpers because they have
[51:55]
three stations as well as their rescues.
[51:57]
Actually, Liztown Kitley has four um,
[52:00]
pumper tankers because they would lease
[52:01]
us the one that's just spare. Um well I
[52:06]
all all the municipalities even um I
[52:09]
hope this doesn't come in wrong um front
[52:11]
of Young being a smaller municipality
[52:12]
they they also have two comfort hangers
[52:15]
as well. Um
[52:17]
yeah it's it is common practice um
[52:20]
across the board. We're we're on the low
[52:22]
end only having two for our service
[52:25]
area.
[52:27]
>> Yeah. So I stand by my suggestion that
[52:30]
» Yeah. So I stand by my suggestion that
[52:30]
we should be going to tender for
[52:33]
something comparable to what we have
[52:34]
that will maintain the service level
[52:37]
rather than increase.
[52:38]
>> Thank you deputy mayor.
[52:40]
» Thank you deputy mayor.
[52:40]
>> And and what does a time frame look like
[52:42]
» And and what does a time frame look like
[52:42]
for going to tender? What's the impact
[52:45]
on our operations?
[52:47]
>> Uh so if we went to tender uh sorry
[52:50]
» Uh so if we went to tender uh sorry
[52:50]
through your worship if we went to
[52:52]
tender um to have a truck basically
[52:54]
custom built is is what I'm I'm hearing.
[52:57]
Um we're probably in the neighborhood of
[52:59]
5 to 600 days uh for delivery days.
[53:03]
Yeah. Um yeah. So better part of two
[53:07]
years for delivery. Um
[53:12]
if we went to tender and looked for
[53:14]
something immediately, we would
[53:16]
the people that have what we've looked
[53:18]
at right now would be bidding on it
[53:20]
essentially. Um, and the pumper tankers
[53:23]
we've looked at right now ranged from
[53:24]
the 645
[53:26]
right up to 780,000.
[53:29]
Um, that's the range I've been in. Um,
[53:32]
and and stat, but they're looking to
[53:35]
utilize the very bottom end of that
[53:37]
scale. So, we haven't asked for any
[53:39]
fancy stuff or anything like that. Um, I
[53:42]
reached out to a handful of suppliers uh
[53:47]
and only have two that have anything
[53:49]
available. Um, and that was the that was
[53:52]
the price range. Uh, 645 to to 780. Um,
[53:57]
but yeah, we would be looking at
[54:00]
at that point if we went to tenor like
[54:02]
that, we would have to try and move into
[54:04]
an automatic date agreements with all
[54:06]
the neighboring departments. Um, and
[54:08]
when I looked that up, I think that
[54:10]
equated to those trucks responding to
[54:12]
roughly um, 65% of our calls a year at
[54:17]
$585 an hour as soon as the tone goes
[54:21]
off until that truck returns to their
[54:23]
station. So just to say the list Kayley
[54:27]
responded here and went back, we'd be
[54:29]
looking at a minimum of two hours. So
[54:32]
every call for us would be a a th00and
[54:35]
the $1,200 bill roughly for every call
[54:38]
um that we go to because anything that
[54:40]
has the potential of fire we would need
[54:42]
a truck rolling right away for that
[54:44]
scene. So we wouldn't have time to wait.
[54:46]
So they would have to as soon as we get
[54:47]
a call they would have to go into uh
[54:50]
they'd have to respond immediately.
[54:53]
I I would make the observation that
[54:55]
given the timeline for tender and
[54:58]
doesn't sound realistic that we find a
[55:00]
less expensive option um I would
[55:03]
continue to support option number one so
[55:07]
that we can maintain the level of
[55:09]
service for our residents.
[55:12]
>> Uh chief if I may just for clarification
[55:15]
» Uh chief if I may just for clarification
[55:15]
uh for tender could we not put a tender
[55:18]
out for a ready build?
[55:20]
Um, yes, the worst that we could. Um,
[55:24]
but I' I've scoured everywhere and the
[55:26]
only ready builds are what I've brought
[55:28]
to council and this is the cheapest one
[55:30]
of of those options.
[55:31]
>> And the reason why I'm asking is just
[55:32]
» And the reason why I'm asking is just
[55:32]
for cl uh for clarity being upfront
[55:35]
because there are there's a procurement
[55:37]
process that we need to follow and we
[55:39]
have to follow those guidelines to make
[55:41]
sure we're not putting the municipality
[55:42]
in a position of liable. Uh so
[55:47]
having already reached out and had
[55:49]
conversations with the providers, did
[55:52]
they provide you any documentation that
[55:55]
lists the specifics of the vehicle and
[55:57]
the cost?
[55:58]
>> Yes.
[55:59]
» Yes.
[55:59]
>> And did we supply that to council?
[56:02]
» And did we supply that to council?
[56:02]
>> Uh I I did not your worship. So they um
[56:05]
» Uh I I did not your worship. So they um
[56:05]
when I reached they they're they give
[56:08]
you a budgetary number um but they won't
[56:11]
commit to a price um when they go to
[56:15]
tender because
[56:17]
>> understandable they could have put an
[56:19]
» understandable they could have put an
[56:19]
expression of interest in
[56:21]
>> could we have not and just so we would
[56:23]
» could we have not and just so we would
[56:23]
get an idea of the cost.
[56:25]
>> So through your version I I did discuss
[56:27]
» So through your version I I did discuss
[56:27]
that with them. We we could have done
[56:28]
that. It was just the kind of the short
[56:30]
time frame with it being around
[56:31]
Christmas and stuff and and staffing at
[56:34]
the these places. I've struggled to get
[56:36]
a lot of stuff back from them
[56:37]
unfortunately. Um and I literally had
[56:40]
one person uh call me back um on Friday
[56:43]
um with the price which unfortunately
[56:45]
was the 780 so it wasn't realistic
[56:47]
anyhow. Um but I do have documents as to
[56:50]
the specs on the vehicle. All three
[56:53]
vehicles available are the exact same
[56:55]
vehicle. Um, the only difference is the
[56:59]
top end truck, sorry, not even the top
[57:01]
end truck, the mid price truck, um,
[57:04]
holds 600 gallons more water. Um, but it
[57:07]
was $100,000 more than the other one.
[57:10]
So, it was pretty hard to justify
[57:12]
100,000 for 600 gallons of water.
[57:15]
>> But they're identical cabs and
[57:18]
» But they're identical cabs and
[57:18]
everything's the exact same. Um, the
[57:20]
only difference is three different water
[57:22]
amounts. The low range one is 3,000
[57:25]
gallons. The mid-range is 2500 gallon or
[57:28]
sorry mid-range is 3600 and the top
[57:30]
range is 2500.
[57:32]
Um that was the only difference. Um and
[57:35]
again I would love to tender. Um I just
[57:38]
don't see that we have the time frame to
[57:40]
safely do it.
[57:41]
>> Go ahead. Uh something that sticks in my
[57:44]
» Go ahead. Uh something that sticks in my
[57:44]
memory from the uh asset management
[57:47]
presentation from Watson and Associates
[57:49]
was 2027 and $2 million to replace the
[57:53]
uh the ladder truck.
[57:57]
So I mean is the plan to replace both of
[58:00]
these now through your worship. So I am
[58:04]
working with a couple of different
[58:06]
companies just to get reports back on
[58:07]
aerial truck. Um,
[58:10]
I don't want to say yes or no, but I
[58:12]
don't believe that truck would need to
[58:14]
be replaced at that date. Um, shown on
[58:17]
the thing. Um, it's no longer a
[58:20]
frontline pump truck. It's a aerial
[58:22]
truck with a pump on it. Uh so from what
[58:26]
I have learned so far, as long as the
[58:29]
aerial device um passes its annual
[58:32]
inspections and the truck passes its
[58:33]
annual inspections, its life cycle can
[58:35]
be extended past the recommendation of
[58:39]
Watson Associates.
[58:42]
>> Clarification, Chief, as well along that
[58:44]
» Clarification, Chief, as well along that
[58:44]
line. So if we were to uh find ourselves
[58:47]
in a situation because uh we're a
[58:51]
municipality of uh minimal means and we
[58:54]
we face a daunting task. Everybody knows
[58:57]
that. Don't need to dive into the pool.
[58:59]
[sighs]
[58:59]
Uh
[59:01]
but it's my understanding that we can
[59:04]
also have the truck assessed and do the
[59:08]
work necessary to have it reertified.
[59:11]
And I think the reertification can be up
[59:14]
to five years saying that you know if we
[59:18]
don't happen to meet um the requirement
[59:22]
putting repair work in and value um
[59:27]
versus time
[59:29]
uh you know is that an option?
[59:33]
>> Sorry. So you're you're talking about
[59:35]
» Sorry. So you're you're talking about
[59:35]
the aerial check though
[59:36]
>> any one of our vehicles. So, I mean,
[59:38]
» any one of our vehicles. So, I mean,
[59:38]
some vehicles, you know, if we were to
[59:41]
put in a certain amount, like putting in
[59:42]
10,000 or 15,000 or $20,000 worth of
[59:45]
work
[59:46]
>> to extend the life of that vehicle for 5
[59:48]
» to extend the life of that vehicle for 5
[59:48]
years versus spending one or 1.2 or $2
[59:51]
million
[59:52]
>> given the challenges that we have within
[59:55]
» given the challenges that we have within
[59:55]
the municipality and all the needs. Um,
[59:59]
my understanding that that avenue is
[1:00:02]
available should it be of interest for
[1:00:05]
council to move that way. Is that
[1:00:06]
correct or incorrect?
[1:00:08]
>> Uh, yes, absolutely. There are aspects
[1:00:10]
» Uh, yes, absolutely. There are aspects
[1:00:10]
of that are correct. Um, and I and I
[1:00:12]
reached out, it's in the report here for
[1:00:15]
the tender truck to see if that was a
[1:00:16]
viable option to replace the frame rails
[1:00:19]
and everything. Um, unfortunately, the
[1:00:21]
the largest company that does this is in
[1:00:23]
Missaga. They wouldn't even um bid on
[1:00:27]
doing it. They said they have done it in
[1:00:29]
the past a couple years ago and by the
[1:00:31]
time they were done it was almost the
[1:00:32]
price of a do truck again because
[1:00:35]
everything's in the same condition on
[1:00:36]
the truck. Um, but I do know City of
[1:00:39]
Toronto at about the seven or eight year
[1:00:41]
mark of a of a fleet vehicles life
[1:00:44]
cycle, it goes into this company and
[1:00:46]
they do basically a refurbishing truck.
[1:00:48]
>> Um, that equates to generally around 125
[1:00:52]
» Um, that equates to generally around 125
[1:00:52]
to 150,000. Um, but it does extend the
[1:00:57]
life cycle of that vehicle.
[1:00:58]
>> Yeah.
[1:00:59]
» Yeah.
[1:00:59]
>> And I wasn't being uh specific to any
[1:01:02]
» And I wasn't being uh specific to any
[1:01:02]
vehicle.
[1:01:03]
>> I was just putting it out there as we're
[1:01:06]
» I was just putting it out there as we're
[1:01:06]
moving forward and understand the
[1:01:08]
challenges that we're that we're going
[1:01:10]
to have to face uh over the next uh you
[1:01:13]
know two or three terms of council. um
[1:01:17]
perhaps intervening
[1:01:20]
uh with
[1:01:23]
that approach rather than allowing it to
[1:01:26]
get to a point where the frame is
[1:01:28]
completely rotten.
[1:01:29]
>> So I mean I'm uh in the industry that I
[1:01:32]
» So I mean I'm uh in the industry that I
[1:01:32]
worked in, we did that. We used to send
[1:01:35]
uh hundreds of vehicles out for
[1:01:37]
refurbish versus the replacement costs.
[1:01:41]
So refurbishing is expensive but a lot
[1:01:44]
cheaper than uh replacement. But we used
[1:01:47]
to set a marker when a vehicle reached a
[1:01:52]
certain status
[1:01:54]
uh that we would send it out then rather
[1:01:57]
than waiting for the frame to completely
[1:01:58]
rot and then have no option but to go
[1:02:01]
with the new option. So, is that
[1:02:03]
something that uh the fire department
[1:02:06]
could start to consider to help
[1:02:09]
alleviate some of the pressures that
[1:02:10]
we're facing?
[1:02:12]
Absolutely. And we've also uh started a
[1:02:15]
new um truck committee. Um my deputy
[1:02:19]
who's a licensed mechanic is the head of
[1:02:21]
that committee and and that's kind of
[1:02:22]
their their job boarding forward is um
[1:02:25]
fleet inspections more regularly, uh
[1:02:28]
maintenance recommendations and stuff
[1:02:30]
like that to keep their fleet
[1:02:32]
Yeah. Go ahead. Finish up, Chief.
[1:02:34]
>> Yeah. Just just to keep the fleet in
[1:02:35]
» Yeah. Just just to keep the fleet in
[1:02:35]
good repair and and to make those
[1:02:37]
recommendations that that extend the
[1:02:38]
life cycles of the vehicles.
[1:02:40]
>> Yeah. So, and and when and as that moves
[1:02:42]
» Yeah. So, and and when and as that moves
[1:02:42]
forward, I think it's a good idea, but
[1:02:45]
we have to have a ensure that council
[1:02:47]
has a full understanding that, you know,
[1:02:50]
there's a certain point in time when a
[1:02:52]
vehicle needs to have intervention. Uh
[1:02:55]
otherwise, you're facing a a larger
[1:02:58]
>> challenge. Go ahead. Yes,
[1:02:59]
» challenge. Go ahead. Yes,
[1:02:59]
>> I think it was recommended that we do a
[1:03:01]
» I think it was recommended that we do a
[1:03:01]
fire master plan and all those things we
[1:03:03]
be incorporated into the fire master
[1:03:05]
plan and that was one of the things that
[1:03:07]
we had incorporated into the proposed
[1:03:09]
budget for 2026.
[1:03:10]
>> I just had music go off in my ears. I've
[1:03:12]
» I just had music go off in my ears. I've
[1:03:12]
been talking about fire master plan for
[1:03:14]
years. I think it's a very valuable
[1:03:18]
uh process to to get involved in because
[1:03:21]
it it gives us uh advanced notice on
[1:03:25]
what expectations are.
[1:03:28]
So, uh, one more question and I forgot
[1:03:32]
what it was now. Um,
[1:03:35]
oh, the vehicle. So, this vehicle that
[1:03:38]
you're talking about that's ready today,
[1:03:41]
is it exactly what you need
[1:03:45]
or will there be a secondary ask? And
[1:03:47]
the reason why I ask is that we done
[1:03:49]
that in 2022.
[1:03:51]
We were in a position where it was an
[1:03:52]
emergency. We need to source a new
[1:03:54]
vehicle. we got the new vehicle and then
[1:03:57]
after we got the new vehicle there was
[1:04:00]
uh other requirements that the vehicle
[1:04:02]
didn't have so we supported it uh
[1:04:05]
shelving so on and so forth which wasn't
[1:04:07]
an extended amount of money
[1:04:11]
should council decide this is the way to
[1:04:13]
go
[1:04:15]
are you saying that this vehicle when it
[1:04:18]
arrives as is
[1:04:22]
sufficient enough
[1:04:24]
and will fulfill the role needed for the
[1:04:26]
miss valley without an extra task.
[1:04:30]
>> Oh yeah, through your worship. The only
[1:04:33]
» Oh yeah, through your worship. The only
[1:04:33]
extra thing and I don't even think it is
[1:04:35]
a requirement. I think it's generally
[1:04:37]
it's covering the price would be
[1:04:39]
lettering the vehicle. Um and just a
[1:04:42]
switch over of the radio from the
[1:04:45]
previous vehicle to that vehicle, which
[1:04:47]
equates to couple hundred maybe. Um but
[1:04:51]
other than that, everything else is on
[1:04:53]
the vehicle. the specs show it own tank
[1:04:56]
all that stuff and then hose all that
[1:04:58]
stuff with current truck and just be
[1:05:01]
moved over to that truck. Um and being a
[1:05:03]
tanker it doesn't have shelving. It just
[1:05:05]
added the rollup doors at the bottom so
[1:05:08]
it wouldn't require any any additional
[1:05:10]
stuff. It it comes um fully ready to go.
[1:05:13]
The only change and and I added that in
[1:05:15]
here um is um it has to have its um
[1:05:19]
inspection UL inspection done um and
[1:05:23]
then tax and the delivery I think is
[1:05:25]
kind of tied in with it or whatever. But
[1:05:27]
worst case scenario we'll go and throw
[1:05:29]
it back if they have to. But there there
[1:05:31]
would be no extra ass. I've had my
[1:05:33]
deputy go through the uh the proposal
[1:05:35]
from them and the truck specs and then
[1:05:37]
it comes with everything we need. Um the
[1:05:40]
only extra stuff like I said might be
[1:05:42]
lettering if it's not included the
[1:05:44]
vehicle transfer of the plates and uh
[1:05:47]
the radio and we're going to utilize
[1:05:49]
everything else from that other tanker
[1:05:52]
just to move over to the new one if if
[1:05:53]
that's the decision council.
[1:05:55]
>> Yeah. No, I just and I just asked
[1:05:57]
» Yeah. No, I just and I just asked
[1:05:57]
because I remember in 2022 it was, you
[1:06:00]
know, a truck that was, you know, ready
[1:06:02]
to go and everybody was excited about
[1:06:04]
it, but after we received it, then
[1:06:05]
council, you know, was asked again to
[1:06:08]
supply another 25,000 for shelving and I
[1:06:10]
think there was a few more asks. So, you
[1:06:13]
know,
[1:06:15]
you know, [clears throat] I'm
[1:06:17]
understanding that you're happy with
[1:06:19]
this
[1:06:21]
and my understanding is that
[1:06:25]
it's going to meet the requirements
[1:06:26]
without extra asks. Correct.
[1:06:30]
>> Okay. Just wanted clarification on that.
[1:06:33]
» Okay. Just wanted clarification on that.
[1:06:33]
So, is there any other questions or
[1:06:35]
comments?
[1:06:40]
None. Okay. So I guess we'll call the
[1:06:42]
vote on option one
[1:06:47]
and that is carried.
[1:06:51]
All those opposed.
[1:06:59]
» Going to go on to communication up
[1:07:01]
equipment update that the council of the
[1:07:03]
corporation of the village of Miracle
[1:07:04]
Wolf received for information report
[1:07:06]
regarding communication equipment
[1:07:07]
upgrade. May I have a mover please?
[1:07:10]
>> Thank you. in a seconder, please.
[1:07:13]
» Thank you. in a seconder, please.
[1:07:13]
>> A second.
[1:07:13]
» A second.
[1:07:13]
>> Thank you. Uh comments or questions or
[1:07:16]
» Thank you. Uh comments or questions or
[1:07:16]
um from staff or from councel?
[1:07:20]
Would anybody care to provide any other?
[1:07:24]
No comments. No questions. Go ahead.
[1:07:26]
>> Um I was in the last county council
[1:07:30]
» Um I was in the last county council
[1:07:30]
meeting and it was um referred to in
[1:07:33]
that meeting that the chase were um
[1:07:35]
bringing this forward. So that's why I
[1:07:37]
ask people to provide this information
[1:07:40]
item only and it's something to consider
[1:07:42]
for future years. But now you know
[1:07:46]
>> okay you have a a vote calling here and
[1:07:49]
» okay you have a a vote calling here and
[1:07:49]
if it's it's just for information just
[1:07:51]
to receive the information.
[1:07:53]
>> Yeah. So that there's going to be a
[1:07:55]
» Yeah. So that there's going to be a
[1:07:55]
deeper dive in at county level. So
[1:07:58]
>> any comments or questions for members?
[1:08:00]
» any comments or questions for members?
[1:08:00]
If none I'll call the vote. All in
[1:08:02]
favor? Carried. Thank you. Finance
[1:08:04]
nothing. Building Department
[1:08:08]
CEO administration
[1:08:11]
um a year review summary report 2025 to
[1:08:14]
the council of the corporation of the
[1:08:15]
bill will receive for receive for
[1:08:19]
information report regarding the year
[1:08:20]
year end review summary from January to
[1:08:23]
December 2025. May I have a mover
[1:08:26]
please?
[1:08:27]
>> Thank you. Moved and seconded deputy
[1:08:29]
» Thank you. Moved and seconded deputy
[1:08:29]
mayor. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:08:30]
>> Comments or questions?
[1:08:34]
» Go ahead, Deputy Mayor.
[1:08:36]
>> Will will we have an opportunity to post
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» Will will we have an opportunity to post
[1:08:38]
this um the slideshow for the better on
[1:08:43]
the website?
[1:08:43]
>> Yeah, it's on my list for tomorrow.
[1:08:45]
» Yeah, it's on my list for tomorrow.
[1:08:45]
>> Okay, great. Um my compliments to
[1:08:48]
» Okay, great. Um my compliments to
[1:08:48]
everything that staff have accomplished.
[1:08:51]
That's a nice layout.
[1:08:54]
» That's a that's a clerk clerky thank
[1:08:57]
you.
[1:08:58]
>> Well, well done. had a great talk to you
[1:08:59]
» Well, well done. had a great talk to you
[1:08:59]
again.
[1:09:01]
>> Uh yeah, it's important to celebrate our
[1:09:03]
» Uh yeah, it's important to celebrate our
[1:09:03]
wins, of course, and uh
[1:09:07]
you know, it's important that we put out
[1:09:08]
on all our social media and make sure
[1:09:10]
that uh we advertise that well. With no
[1:09:13]
other comments or questions, I'll call
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the vote. All in favor? Car. Thank you.
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Department activity update clerk that
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the council of the corporation of the
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village of Merit Foler received for
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information departmental activity update
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report from the clerk's department as
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presented. May I have a mover, please?
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>> I'll move.
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» I'll move.
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>> Thank you. Seconder, please.
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» Thank you. Seconder, please.
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>> Second.
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» Second.
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>> Thank you. Um,
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» Thank you. Um,
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do we have any comments or questions
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from members?
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Anything from staff addition? Uh,
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>> no.
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» no.
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>> Anything else unless
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» Anything else unless
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nothing comments or questions? Call. All
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in favor? Carried. Departmental activity
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update amen and finance of the
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corporation council of the corporation
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of vill receive for information
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department activity update concerning a
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men and finance. May I have a mover
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please?
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>> Move.
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» Move.
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>> Thank you. Seconder, please.
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» Thank you. Seconder, please.
[1:10:06]
>> I'll second.
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» I'll second.
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>> Thank you. Comments or questions?
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Go ahead, counselor.
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>> There are no attachments here. Was there
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» There are no attachments here. Was there
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supposed to be a report?
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I see person's gone. No, there was it
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was supposed to be there. We can
[1:10:20]
circulate that [laughter]
[1:10:22]
>> tomorrow. Was it
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» tomorrow. Was it
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>> the uh admin finance and admin?
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» the uh admin finance and admin?
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>> Okay.
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» Okay.
[1:10:28]
>> So, you you'll circle tomorrow. Yeah.
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» So, you you'll circle tomorrow. Yeah.
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>> And we'll also put it out for the public
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» And we'll also put it out for the public
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as well.
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>> Yes. [gasps]
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» Yes. [gasps]
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>> Any other comments or questions?
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» Any other comments or questions?
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>> None. Call the vote. All in favor?
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» None. Call the vote. All in favor?
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Carried. Action item uh B uh waiver
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request.
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St. Margarite
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and somebody help me with the last name.
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>> Bja
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» Bja
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>> Bourgeoa [clears throat]
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» Bourgeoa [clears throat]
[1:10:53]
Messi that the council of the
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corporation of the village of Merville
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Wolford receive for information the fee
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wave request from EOS St. Margaret Bjour
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for the use of the Merrickville
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Community Center for their Thanksgiving
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lunchon. And further that council does
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hereby approve the option
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option A
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approve the request as presented and
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direct staff to pro uh to process the
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refund payment for the whole rental or B
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does not approve the request as
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presented and direct staff to notify the
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requesttor. May I have a mover, please?
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I'll move
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>> and a seconder, please.
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» and a seconder, please.
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>> Second.
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» Second.
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>> Thank you. We'll take uh comments and
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» Thank you. We'll take uh comments and
[1:11:37]
questions and uh
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>> option preferences, please. Go ahead,
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» option preferences, please. Go ahead,
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counselor.
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>> Yeah, I I don't have a too much a
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» Yeah, I I don't have a too much a
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problem with the fee waver. I just
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noticed that the date of the the event
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was October 10th. So, are they actually
[1:11:50]
looking for a refund?
[1:11:52]
>> It was very confusing for staff as well.
[1:11:55]
» It was very confusing for staff as well.
[1:11:55]
Um but yes, they're looking for a
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refund.
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>> Okay.
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» Okay.
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Right,
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Deb. Um,
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>> and do they normally receive the use of
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» and do they normally receive the use of
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the community center at no cost?
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I think they have in the past whether it
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was an oversight or not, but it was
[1:12:16]
their um impression that they would be
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although they would like to.
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» Any other comments or questions from
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members?
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Go ahead, councelor. um generally not
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against uh providing the community
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center free of charge, but it's kind of
[1:12:35]
irregular to come to us for a refund
[1:12:37]
after the fact. So, I think it should
[1:12:39]
have been agreed to upfront.
[1:12:42]
So, I'm kind of leaning against
[1:12:44]
approving particular request, but I'll
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go with whatever council wants to do,
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I'm assuming.
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Um we don't have any history on that,
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Miss Pman. So, I don't ever really
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recall them ever having a Thanksgiving
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dinner at the community center. I know
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they used to have a Christmas play.
[1:13:05]
>> This is going back and forth uh with
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» This is going back and forth uh with
[1:13:07]
staff because
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the one document said 2025 and the one
[1:13:12]
said for 2022
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and um
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they provided something in a
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email that wasn't really consistent.
[1:13:23]
>> Mhm. And so it it was difficult for us
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» Mhm. And so it it was difficult for us
[1:13:26]
to make that decision,
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but uh it's totally up to council. I
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mean, what's
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>> I know we do supply it for free for the
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» I know we do supply it for free for the
[1:13:35]
public school.
[1:13:36]
>> Yeah.
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» Yeah.
[1:13:37]
>> And we've have a history with that. So
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» And we've have a history with that. So
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>> whatever council would like to do.
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» whatever council would like to do.
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>> Yes. $100. So, um, just by show of hands
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» Yes. $100. So, um, just by show of hands
[1:13:48]
for option A, unless you had another
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question, mayor,
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>> just just to respect councelor Ireland's
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» just just to respect councelor Ireland's
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concern, um, in the future, we'll
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approve it in advance
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>> as opposed to
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» as opposed to
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>> after the fact. And if we have, as you
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» after the fact. And if we have, as you
[1:14:04]
point out, a history doing the same for
[1:14:06]
the public school, then seems only fair.
[1:14:09]
>> Yeah.
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» Yeah.
[1:14:09]
>> Yeah.
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» Yeah.
[1:14:10]
>> So, I'm I'm sure that you've relayed
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» So, I'm I'm sure that you've relayed
[1:14:12]
that message to them. they need to ask
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in advance. Yeah. So,
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>> so, uh, just with a a show of hands for
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» so, uh, just with a a show of hands for
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option B, uh, A, so we get a feel of
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what, uh, we're going to fill the blank
[1:14:22]
in with.
[1:14:24]
>> Okay. So, no need to call on option B.
[1:14:27]
» Okay. So, no need to call on option B.
[1:14:27]
So, option A would be it. So, we're
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going to call vote. If there's no
[1:14:31]
further comments or questions, we'll
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call vote on option A for the refund.
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All those in favor? Carried. Thank you.
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Uh, update signage request. Hilda
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Seagull that the council of the
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corporation of the village of
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Merrickville Wolf received for
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information letter from Hilda Seagull
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regarding the updating of business
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signage on the north side of the village
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and further that council does hereby
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direct staff to look into the
[1:14:54]
possibility of updating the signage and
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bring any further approvals back to a
[1:14:59]
future council meeting if required. May
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I have a mover, please?
[1:15:02]
>> I'll move.
[1:15:04]
» I'll move.
[1:15:04]
>> Thank you. In a second, please.
[1:15:06]
» Thank you. In a second, please.
[1:15:06]
>> Thank you. Uh, Miss Pullman, do you want
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» Thank you. Uh, Miss Pullman, do you want
[1:15:09]
to fill us in a little bit on this, but
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this request is
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coming from because I have I have a
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little bit of a history with that and
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I'm was kind of confused why it came.
[1:15:20]
>> Well, um, she dropped off the
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» Well, um, she dropped off the
[1:15:22]
correspondence. Um, I think whether it
[1:15:25]
was intended for the the council meeting
[1:15:27]
or the priority setting exercise, it's
[1:15:30]
just for to have council consider
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whether they're going to have signage or
[1:15:33]
not, I believe, or updated signage.
[1:15:38]
So,
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>> I don't think there's any specific
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» I don't think there's any specific
[1:15:42]
request. It's just a
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they'd like to have
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>> Yeah. Okay. Go ahead, Deb.
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» Yeah. Okay. Go ahead, Deb.
[1:15:48]
>> Um, well, the the request is that the
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» Um, well, the the request is that the
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signs be updated so that they properly
[1:15:54]
indicate the businesses currently
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located on on the north side. Um,
[1:16:01]
so our sign bylaw describes these
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fingerpointing
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signs and each business is to purchase
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their own
[1:16:10]
>> um and then is mounted on the post by
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» um and then is mounted on the post by
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either municipal staff or someone hired
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to do it. So it is and I know that this
[1:16:20]
is a matter of some question within
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members of the chamber of commerce
[1:16:26]
because the bylaw also
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uh specifies a single company from which
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they can purchase the signs themselves
[1:16:34]
and that that company does not appear to
[1:16:36]
be in business any longer. So there's um
[1:16:39]
there's a number of businesses on the
[1:16:41]
north side also on on the south side of
[1:16:43]
the river that would like to have some
[1:16:46]
kind of update to the sign bylaw or uh
[1:16:50]
or an exemption from the requirements of
[1:16:52]
the sign bylaw so that they could go out
[1:16:56]
and purchase a sign a finger sign and
[1:16:58]
have it mounted on on that post or and
[1:17:02]
other posts as well.
[1:17:04]
>> Any comments questions from members?
[1:17:08]
» Any comments questions from members?
[1:17:08]
So, I'll just provide a counsel with uh
[1:17:11]
for what I know. And um the polls were
[1:17:15]
originally put in by the foundry and the
[1:17:18]
foundry is still an active business. So,
[1:17:20]
they're still supplying and they supply
[1:17:21]
to multiple municipalities uh in our
[1:17:24]
surrounding area. Um and it was uh Carl
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that
[1:17:31]
supplied all the poles and it was Carl
[1:17:34]
that did all the maintenance on it. So
[1:17:36]
Carl would update uh the signage and the
[1:17:39]
deputy mayor's correct. A business would
[1:17:41]
ask for it and it would be produced and
[1:17:43]
they would pay it. So there was no cost
[1:17:44]
to the municipality. My understanding
[1:17:46]
was it would just fell under the
[1:17:49]
municipal's insurance. So I don't know
[1:17:52]
is Carl still managing those? Is he
[1:17:55]
changing them? I know he's been trying
[1:17:56]
to get a hold of us to figure out what's
[1:17:58]
going on because he's knocked on my door
[1:18:01]
a few times asking me. Uh so I've
[1:18:04]
directed him where he needed to go but
[1:18:06]
and this and this and then this request
[1:18:09]
comes in from Hilda. So I don't know uh
[1:18:15]
what the position or what's happening
[1:18:17]
because uh it used to be maintained by
[1:18:21]
Carl
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>> and he would take the old side down and
[1:18:24]
» and he would take the old side down and
[1:18:24]
put the new signs up. So, and he
[1:18:26]
supplied all the poles at free at no
[1:18:28]
cost and he did all the maintenance at
[1:18:30]
no cost and he did all the installations
[1:18:33]
at no cost. And my understanding is he's
[1:18:36]
still in business and the business have
[1:18:38]
been contacting him to get the signs,
[1:18:40]
but he
[1:18:43]
didn't have direction on what he could
[1:18:44]
do or what he couldn't do. So, there was
[1:18:47]
a bit of a confusion. Is there some way
[1:18:48]
that we could clear that up so that we
[1:18:51]
could provide some updated information
[1:18:53]
not only to the public but to council
[1:18:55]
because I think it's an opportunity
[1:18:58]
uh having a 1800 founded here still
[1:19:00]
producing
[1:19:02]
u material
[1:19:04]
uh you know it goes with uh it goes with
[1:19:08]
the history of the village and it goes
[1:19:09]
with uh the reason why people come here
[1:19:12]
the draw and it would be an amazing part
[1:19:14]
in my mind amazing part of the story
[1:19:17]
that uh people are asking, well, those
[1:19:19]
are beautiful signs. Where are they
[1:19:21]
made? Oh, they're right there still. Um,
[1:19:24]
>> so was the municipality just the
[1:19:26]
» so was the municipality just the
[1:19:26]
gobetween or
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>> that was my understanding. It it was it
[1:19:29]
» that was my understanding. It it was it
[1:19:29]
was done through the chamber many many
[1:19:31]
years ago and Carl was on the chamber.
[1:19:33]
He used to be the president of the
[1:19:34]
chamber at some at some point and it was
[1:19:38]
request from shopkeepers
[1:19:41]
that there would be some kind of a
[1:19:44]
sign opportunity put out. So Carl built
[1:19:47]
and supplied all the poles for free and
[1:19:50]
did all the maintenance for free. The
[1:19:52]
only cost was to the store or the shop
[1:19:58]
business. They would pay the $250 for
[1:20:00]
the sign. That was my understanding. But
[1:20:03]
I think a little bit more clarity on
[1:20:05]
what's happening and
[1:20:06]
>> what's going on is probably required.
[1:20:08]
» what's going on is probably required.
[1:20:08]
And we do need to start to celebrate
[1:20:10]
>> the north side. There are growing
[1:20:12]
» the north side. There are growing
[1:20:12]
businesses over there. And I noticed
[1:20:14]
that there's a lot of signs that are
[1:20:15]
outdated. There's some business haven't
[1:20:17]
been here for years. So, might be an
[1:20:20]
opportunity to refresh that.
[1:20:23]
>> Okay. Say who does what and how to do
[1:20:25]
» Okay. Say who does what and how to do
[1:20:26]
it. Okay.
[1:20:26]
>> If we could get it clear, it's a little
[1:20:28]
» If we could get it clear, it's a little
[1:20:28]
clarification would be nice. Thank you.
[1:20:29]
Go ahead, Deputy Mayor.
[1:20:31]
>> Yeah. Just as a a response to the
[1:20:33]
» Yeah. Just as a a response to the
[1:20:34]
business owners who have signed this
[1:20:35]
letter, we can certainly say that the
[1:20:37]
cost of the signs is is on the business
[1:20:42]
owner. Mhm. Okay.
[1:20:44]
>> Yeah. I think they uh from what I
[1:20:46]
» Yeah. I think they uh from what I
[1:20:46]
understand, they they understand that
[1:20:48]
they understand that they have to pay
[1:20:49]
and they have no concerns about paying.
[1:20:51]
They just we're trying to get their
[1:20:53]
signs up. That's that was all pretty
[1:20:55]
much what I understood.
[1:20:58]
>> Okay. I'll see what I can do.
[1:21:00]
» Okay. I'll see what I can do.
[1:21:00]
>> Appreciate that. Thank you very much.
[1:21:01]
» Appreciate that. Thank you very much.
[1:21:01]
So, um there's no further comments or
[1:21:04]
questions. I'll call the vote. All in
[1:21:05]
favor?
[1:21:06]
>> What are we voting on?
[1:21:07]
» What are we voting on?
[1:21:07]
>> Well, just uh we're receiving the
[1:21:08]
» Well, just uh we're receiving the
[1:21:08]
letter.
[1:21:09]
>> Uh it doesn't say that. It does hereby
[1:21:11]
» Uh it doesn't say that. It does hereby
[1:21:11]
direct staff to look into the
[1:21:12]
possibility of updating the signage and
[1:21:13]
bring any further approvals back to
[1:21:15]
future council meeting if required.
[1:21:18]
>> So
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» So
[1:21:20]
I was okay with just receiving the
[1:21:21]
letter
[1:21:22]
>> and then you can direct it
[1:21:24]
» and then you can direct it
[1:21:24]
>> to try to determine.
[1:21:26]
» to try to determine.
[1:21:26]
>> So we going to do an amendment on this
[1:21:29]
» So we going to do an amendment on this
[1:21:29]
>> a friendly amendment. Friendly
[1:21:30]
» a friendly amendment. Friendly
[1:21:30]
amendment. Yeah.
[1:21:31]
>> That uh
[1:21:35]
» That uh
[1:21:35]
>> so and further that council does hereby
[1:21:37]
» so and further that council does hereby
[1:21:37]
direct staff to look into the
[1:21:38]
possibilities. Yeah.
[1:21:40]
>> And to bring back at a future council
[1:21:42]
» And to bring back at a future council
[1:21:42]
meeting.
[1:21:43]
>> Yeah, that's what it does.
[1:21:44]
» Yeah, that's what it does.
[1:21:44]
>> Does that would that meet your
[1:21:46]
» Does that would that meet your
[1:21:46]
requirement?
[1:21:47]
>> Yeah. And if the side is like it's and
[1:21:49]
» Yeah. And if the side is like it's and
[1:21:49]
it's not unique to the north side
[1:21:51]
because as as Deputy Mayor Ber said,
[1:21:53]
it's just businesses in general. Uh so
[1:21:55]
just bring an update on what Okay.
[1:21:57]
>> The the previous practice wasn't it um
[1:22:00]
» The the previous practice wasn't it um
[1:22:00]
>> what's going on.
[1:22:02]
» what's going on.
[1:22:02]
>> Yeah. All the sign there's a lot of
[1:22:04]
» Yeah. All the sign there's a lot of
[1:22:04]
signs that need to be updated. So
[1:22:06]
further council does hereby direct staff
[1:22:07]
to look into the possibilities and bring
[1:22:10]
back any further uh information uh to a
[1:22:14]
future council meeting.
[1:22:16]
>> Okay.
[1:22:17]
» Okay.
[1:22:17]
>> Is everybody comfortable with that?
[1:22:20]
» Is everybody comfortable with that?
[1:22:20]
>> Okay. So we'll call the vote on the
[1:22:21]
» Okay. So we'll call the vote on the
[1:22:21]
friendly amendment. All those in favor?
[1:22:24]
Carried.
[1:22:26]
Uh new businesses, announcements,
[1:22:29]
statements by members. Does any member
[1:22:31]
have an announcement or statement?
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Go ahead, council or deputy mayor.
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Sorry.
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>> Today's the day that comments close on
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» Today's the day that comments close on
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the proposed changes to the conservation
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authorities. Um, the RO Valley
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Conservation Authority received support
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from 12 of their 18 municipal
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municipalities. in terms of passing a
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motion supporting the uh opposition to
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the proposed mergers and amalgamations.
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» Any other announcements or Miss
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Plumbley? Are we able to make any
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announcement on the
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update that we got the thing for the the
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BB boxes?
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>> Oh, certainly. Uh I believe Julia, you
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» Oh, certainly. Uh I believe Julia, you
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put it on the website.
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>> It's on the website.
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» It's on the website.
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>> Put it on the website. Yeah. Yeah.
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» Put it on the website. Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Okay. So, I just, you know, there's a
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» Okay. So, I just, you know, there's a
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exciting announcement that we're going
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to have uh blue box in the Wolford area
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in the next uh couple of months. So, um,
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in the short term, we still have to
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deliver the, uh, the, uh, recycle to the
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landfill, but within the next couple of
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months, uh, that's going to be picked up
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by the province, and we're going to
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have, uh, garbage and blue box
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throughout the whole municipality, which
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is great news cuz it was looking like we
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weren't going to have it until 2030 or
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2031, but, uh, staff worked diligently
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with the province and the province moved
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forward on it. So, it's exciting news
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and uh I'm sure our residents will be
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extremely happy. We'll get blue box
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recycling and garbage right at the
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driveway.
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>> Excellent.
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» Excellent.
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>> Uh there'll be a a couple months
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» Uh there'll be a a couple months
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transition, but uh it will move forward.
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So, exciting news indeed.
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So, no other comments uh or statements
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from members. We'll move on to close
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session, none required. Uh resume open
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session, none required. Confirming bylaw
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6025
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2025 that the council of the corporation
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of builder merful will forgive first,
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second, third final reading to bylaw 60
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2025 being of bylaw to confirm the
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proceedings of council for the regular
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meeting of December 22, 2025 and further
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that authorization be given to the mayor
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clerk of the science seal placed in the
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bylaw vote for the municipality bylaw
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number 60 2025. May I have a mover
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please?
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>> A move.
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» A move.
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>> Thank you. Seconder, please. Second.
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» Thank you. Seconder, please. Second.
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Call the vote. All in favor? Carried.
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Thank you. We're going to move on to
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adjournment that the council of the
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cooperation of the village of Marit
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Wolfford.
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>> 7:24.
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» 7:24.
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>> 7:24 p.m. May I have a mover, please?
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» 7:24 p.m. May I have a mover, please?
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>> Thank you. Second, please. Second. Thank
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» Thank you. Second, please. Second. Thank
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you. Call the vote. All in favor, Terry.
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Thank you very much.
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>> Merry Christmas, everybody. Hope
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» Merry Christmas, everybody. Hope
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everybody has a wonderful Christmas
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season. All the best to you and your
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family. Sand you
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>> I