Agenda
[3:33]
Open Forum
[3:36]
Public Comment
[6:37]
Awards and Recognition
[6:40]
2026 Minnesota Association of Government Communicators Northern Lights Awards - Naomi Pesky, Vice President - Strategy and Stakeholder Engagement
[17:16]
Finance and Commerce Top Project Award - MSP Terminal 1 Operational Improvements - Bridget M. Rief, Vice President - Planning and Development
[20:10]
Public Comment
[25:39]
Consent
[26:04]
Planning, Development and Environment Committee
[27:57]
Operations, Finance and Administration Committee
[29:42]
Information
[29:43]
Airline Industry and MSP Air Service Update Presentation by Ailevon Pacific Aviation Consulting - Brian Peters, Director - Air Service Development, Brad DiFiore and Oliver Lamb - Ailevon Pacific [Presentation Only]
[1:02:12]
Public Comment
[1:08:04]
MAC Labor Agreements Final Summary - Alison Kelly, Manager - Labor Relations [Presentation Only]
[1:19:35]
Executive Director/CEO Update - Brian Ryks, Executive Director/CEO [Presentation Only]
[1:34:34]
Chairperson Announcements
[1:34:54]
Closed Session
Transcript
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[4:32]
>> All I have is my credibility.
[4:33]
When it comes to ice cometh the strategy of letting activists do
[4:37]
the talking, while Mac remains silent cannot continue.
[4:42]
The airport doesn't need to express an opinion they just
[4:45]
need to acknowledge reality.
[4:47]
Today that means talking about how
[4:50]
Ice is detaining people on jet as they board their flights even
[4:53]
when traveling domestically.
[4:54]
Many Minnesotans will immediately dismiss concerns
[4:58]
when they're coming from the union or some heavy set hippie,
[5:01]
your continued silence is harming the state
[5:03]
that you are supposed to be serving.
[5:05]
The voice of the airport needs to do more than tell people
[5:08]
to call police when they can't do anything or defer comment
[5:10]
to the feds.
[5:11]
We have been coming here asking for you to do better for months.
[5:15]
Tomorrow will observe the 5,000th person getting flown
[5:20]
away from their homes by ice here at MSP.
[5:24]
Including your workers.
[5:26]
Including Minnesota's children.
[5:28]
When will it be enough for you to speak?
[5:31]
I continue to be impressed every time
[5:34]
I interact with the staff and the workers here.
[5:36]
They are proactive common courteous common many
[5:38]
have privately offered praise and support for my remarks here.
[5:41]
If there are any continued hard feelings about tone or disunity,
[5:45]
I suggest the problem is coming from that end of the room,
[5:48]
and not this side of the podium.
[5:50]
Once again to be clear I'm not blaming the commission for Ice
[5:53]
activity, I'm asking for transparency and accountability
[5:55]
for your workers, for the traveling public, the commitment
[5:59]
for acknowledging the truth.
[6:02]
Max values are to take ownership, treat
[6:04]
each other well, act with integrity,
[6:06]
and continuously improve.
[6:09]
It's time to start doing your job.
[6:11]
Thank you.
[6:13]
>> Thank you.
[6:14]
Is there anyone else who would like to take this opportunity
[6:18]
to speak before the commission?
[6:21]
Hearing none, we go through to item 1.5,
[6:26]
and I call on Naomi to come forward.
[6:31]
Thank you.
[7:07]
>> Who am I?
[7:08]
Where am I?
[7:08]
Okay thank you.
[7:10]
Well, good afternoon Chair Lawrence and Commissioners.
[7:15]
I'm Naomi Pesky the vice president of strategy
[7:18]
and stakeholder engagement.
[7:20]
And I am very pleased to be here to share that the Mac has
[7:28]
recently earned two honors from the Minnesota Association
[7:32]
of Government Communicators.
[7:35]
Through its Northern Lights Awards program.
[7:38]
This is a long standing program that
[7:42]
recognizes outstanding work and Minnesota's government,
[7:46]
educational, and nonprofit communications.
[7:49]
Entries are judged by government communicators in North Carolina.
[7:53]
To remove any local bias.
[7:56]
The two awards that we are sharing today
[7:59]
demonstrate the excellence of the Mac's
[8:01]
internal and external communications, led
[8:04]
by our strategic Marketing and Communication
[8:08]
Department in partnership with stakeholders across the Mac.
[8:11]
Here are the 2026 award winning projects.
[8:17]
Okay.
[8:18]
So, the first one is for the MSP Airport threads account.
[8:25]
For this, we won the Northern Lights Award
[8:27]
which is the name of the first place award.
[8:30]
It is in the social media engagement
[8:32]
category for large entities.
[8:34]
This category recognizes documented successes
[8:38]
in building community engagement and social media.
[8:42]
Threads is a meta platform where posts are text first rather than
[8:46]
image first.
[8:48]
Threads launched three years ago and has already
[8:52]
grown past 500 million monthly users on that platform.
[8:56]
Which is on par with X. Our digital marketing manager
[9:01]
Isaac Rossouw, Where is Isaac?
[9:05]
Hi Isaac!
[9:06]
In partnership with the full strategic marketing
[9:10]
and communications team launched the MSP Airport Threads account
[9:14]
in 2025.
[9:16]
On threads, a distinct voice is what stands out.
[9:19]
And, in the past year a team has built a following
[9:23]
based on local humor and airport personality.
[9:27]
Such as focusing on Minnesota things like hot dish,
[9:32]
duck duck gray duck, keeping MSP and travel top of mind
[9:37]
for our local followers -- you can see a clip post gives some
[9:42]
taste for some of the local humor and airport personality.
[9:46]
The approach has been successful,
[9:48]
Mac has been able to nearly double the account's followers
[9:52]
without any paid media spend which
[9:54]
is increasingly very challenging in today's social media
[9:57]
landscape.
[9:58]
And users engage with posts through likes, comments,
[10:01]
and shares, 10,000 times.
[10:03]
Our posts have earned over 200,000 impressions.
[10:08]
The second award is for a Silver award,
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our second place in the agency Event program or service video
[10:17]
category.
[10:18]
This category recognizes videos that educates or informs
[10:23]
audiences about an initiative.
[10:25]
In December, the video making Triazole
[10:28]
was the first story in a new video
[10:30]
series called Mac Spotlight.
[10:31]
The series is primarily designed as an internal communication
[10:35]
strategy to engage and inform Mac employees
[10:38]
about the people, places, and work across our organization.
[10:43]
However, there are some installments
[10:44]
such as this one which are also relevant
[10:47]
for our external audiences.
[10:49]
It provides an authentic social media content
[10:52]
to strengthen engagement and support
[10:54]
external brand recognition of the Mac's owner and operator
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MSP.
[10:58]
The Spotlight series is produced by Manager of Strategic
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Communications Jeff Lee.
[11:05]
In partnership with the Marketing Communications
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Department and subject matter experts across the Mac.
[11:13]
For the first installment the key stakeholder group
[11:15]
that he partnered with was Airport Development.
[11:18]
This video takes viewers behind the scenes of a major component
[11:22]
to the recently completed airport modernization program
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that resulted in the largest interior makeover of Msp's
[11:30]
terminal one.
[11:31]
Since it opened in 1962.
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The video showcases the skilled craftsmanship behind Terrazzo
[11:37]
flooring and how these improvements enhance
[11:40]
the passenger experience.
[11:42]
I would like to show you a 62nd clip of the original three
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minute long video so that you can get a taste of what this
[11:51]
great video does.
[12:08]
I'm not sure why that's not working.
[14:18]
Have MCs here for wheelchair pushers, for folks with bags
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>> After 17 years the custom fields are brown gray and beige
[14:26]
have been flipped for harder shinier Terrazzo.
[14:30]
>> It lasts a very long time, it's got an ROI of over 25
[14:33]
years, makes more sense comments cheaper to clean,
[14:36]
it's easier for wheelchair pushers, for folks with bags.
[14:41]
>> Berkshire bays coastal fog and Sleigh bells.
[14:45]
>> On this night Terrazzo finisher Randy Larson and team
[14:48]
helped to create the white mix.
[14:49]
A recipe of marble, and seashell chips.
[14:53]
At the poor sight there's no grand machine laying down
[14:56]
the floor on the g c SkyBridge.
[14:59]
Just the well experienced hands of two Terrazzo craftsmen.
[15:05]
In a decade's time MSP will have gained
[15:09]
the equivalent of nine football fields of Terrazzo.
[15:11]
Making travel seamlessly smoother
[15:15]
while providing a unique canvas of art underfoot.
[15:18]
Pointing travelers away and home again
[15:20]
and reflecting the changing times and shadows
[15:23]
of an airport in motion.
[15:25]
For Max spotlight, Jeff Lee.
[15:31]
>> Thank you Brad for your help.
[15:34]
So, I will just wrap up, I'm not going to pull open
[15:39]
another presentation.
[15:40]
But I will just close with sharing
[15:43]
that we are we were two of nearly 200 entries
[15:49]
that were submitted for consideration for this year's
[15:53]
awards.
[15:53]
And the categories were many.
[15:56]
We competed against other large scale government entities,
[15:59]
several State Department Metro Transit Metro area
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counties and cities with robust communication programs as well.
[16:06]
And I'm really proud of the team the awards recognize
[16:10]
the quality of our communications
[16:11]
and the demonstrated success.
[16:13]
Not only reaching but truly engaging.
[16:16]
Our target audiences are both internal and external
[16:18]
so I want to congratulate our talented strategic marketing
[16:21]
and communications team members whose work
[16:23]
continues to elevate the Mac's purpose, share our story,
[16:26]
and extend the MSP brand across digital channels.
[16:29]
And thank you to all of our stakeholders
[16:32]
who enable us to have great work to amplify and enable us
[16:35]
to do great work together.
[16:37]
And who are always there to help us out.
[16:40]
Right Brad?
[16:41]
Okay.
[16:42]
So, I will close with that, and if anybody
[16:46]
has any questions or anything they want to share,
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I can stand for that.
[16:52]
>> Any questions?
[16:53]
Comments?
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Congratulations to you and the team.
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For those awards.
[16:58]
I think next up is Angela and Ross.
[17:18]
>> Good afternoon Chair Lawrence and commissioners I'm Angela
[17:21]
Enright the senior project manager with Mac airport
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development and I'm here to announce that the terminal one
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operational improvements project won a finance and Commerce Top
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Project award for 2025.
[17:35]
So this was for our entire operational improvements program
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over the last ten years.
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So, the project was honored for this year
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for its degree of difficulty, creativity and design,
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innovative construction techniques, cooperation
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among contractors and management,
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and sustainability efforts that were
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woven through the effort making it not only transformative,
[18:02]
but responsible.
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So operational improvements was a ten year $600 million
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renovation, of the entire front of house at terminal one.
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That originally opened in 1962.
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And, the project encompassed 730,000ft².
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Of space to be remodeled including about a 1600
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zero square foot new addition on the front portion
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of the terminal.
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So nearly every part of the passenger journey
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was touched from curbside arrival and ticketing
[18:34]
to baggage baggage claim.
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So, remarkably all of this was completed while maintaining full
[18:40]
24/7 airport operations for the entire decade that the project
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was under construction.
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So, I want to sincerely acknowledge
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our design team and the contractors,
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our Mac stakeholders and tenants, and the airlines
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for their unwavering dedication and teamwork to the project, as
[19:01]
well as our commissioners.
[19:03]
Thank you for your steadfast support
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throughout this project's long and ambitious journey.
[19:08]
So come on this project wasn't just a renovation,
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it was a decades long commitment to shaping
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the future for our travelers and passengers.
[19:17]
So, thank you for being part of that journey for us.
[19:21]
We accepted the award in July excuse me August.
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And this is just a small portion of our design team.
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So there were dozens if not hundreds
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of people involved from the design team and contractor side.
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So it was very nice to be honored with that award.
[19:41]
>> Well deserved and congratulations from me
[19:43]
and I'm sure all the other commissioners.
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Does anybody have a question?
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Comment?
[19:47]
Thank you very much.
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>> Thank you.
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>> Now turning back to the agenda,
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we have had some people arrive a bit late.
[19:57]
Who did want to speak in the public comment.
[20:02]
I hope I pronounced the name right.?
[20:09]
Please join us.
[20:10]
Thank you.
[20:23]
And I'm sorry hello everybody my name is --
[20:29]
I'm here I drive Uber and Lyft, I'm also organized with SRU.
[20:39]
Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today.
[20:43]
I'm here to speak support for the proposal (Indiscernible)
[21:00]
We have running water improvement with a new facility
[21:08]
will be a big improvement from that.
[21:11]
We are also grateful to have we now
[21:15]
have a regular communication with airport
[21:18]
staff and the drivers union.
[21:21]
It is good to work together.
[21:23]
As we are working and we plan to improve conditions for drivers,
[21:28]
we ask that we involve us in the plan process.
[21:36]
And we will then be waiting for a long time.
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We'll need the break area doesn't shelter from the area.
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It takes care of the customers here at MSB.
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We need dignity, and a facility like all other workers.
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We want to make the airport safe and a welcome place
[22:06]
for everyone.
[22:06]
And thank you so much.
[22:11]
>> Thank you.
[22:14]
There's one other.
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So, Sean Smith Atkins?
[22:33]
>> Sharon Smith Atkinson.
[22:34]
>> Please come forward.
[22:37]
>> Is this where we go?
[22:38]
This is my first time.
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Good afternoon everybody.
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I've got my notes so I can be concise.
[22:44]
Good afternoon everybody my name is Sharon Smith Atkinson
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I represent the Ray McKenzie Group
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and I'm here today on behalf of our hometown icons.
[22:53]
Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.
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You may know that they are coming home to the State Fair
[22:58]
on August 29th for a celebration of the Minneapolis Sound.
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They are bringing so many amazing artists with them,
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it will be three hours of 50 to 60 hits, all made in Minnesota.
[23:12]
They were born and raised in Minnesota,
[23:14]
and we all know that we have the same goal of making sure
[23:18]
that we are doing tourism, we want
[23:20]
people to say amazing things about our city, amazing things
[23:23]
about our airport.
[23:25]
So I thought, since I was the one well it took seven years
[23:30]
but I was the one that put the mural up in downtown Minneapolis
[23:32]
for Prince, I just want to make sure that we don't forget.
[23:36]
That we have some awesome arts and culture and celebrities here
[23:40]
that love us.
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And I just want to make sure that we treat them
[23:44]
and welcome them with respect that they deserve.
[23:47]
So, what I would like to do is simply
[23:50]
request an LED sign that says when they come home
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welcome home Jimmy and Jerry.
[23:58]
They're also bringing 12 or 13 artists,
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and I would like to request some gate access.
[24:04]
So in other words we have amazing carts,
[24:08]
maybe we can pick them up and drop them to baggage claim.
[24:12]
That's my ask.
[24:13]
What can we do to say welcome home Jimmy and Jerry?
[24:18]
And because of everything that they're doing at the State Fair
[24:21]
our great Minnesota get together was made in Minnesota.
[24:25]
That's my ask.
[24:27]
So I would like to just make Minneapolis Saint Paul Airport
[24:31]
the beginning of their welcome.
[24:37]
>> Thank you very much.
[24:38]
>> You're welcome.
[24:39]
>> The purpose of public comment is for people to share
[24:41]
their thoughts with the Commission,
[24:43]
it's a listen only mode.
[24:46]
When the CEO gets to his part, perhaps he
[24:51]
will want to say something.
[24:53]
But thank you very much for joining us today.
[24:57]
>> Thank you for having me.
[24:59]
>> You're welcome.
[24:59]
Okay we have no items either under public presentations
[25:02]
or hearings.
[25:03]
And I would invite the representative of the Met
[25:07]
Council and MnDOT to speak if they were here but they're not.
[25:11]
So we're going to move into the consent agenda.
[25:14]
The way I'm going to do it, is we
[25:16]
are going to work our way through this bit by bit.
[25:20]
And if any commissioner has a comment or question,
[25:24]
and we'll take it up.
[25:26]
If not we'll just keep moving through
[25:29]
and there will be a single vote at the end
[25:34]
if the commission so wishes to approve the consent agenda.
[25:40]
So the first items are approval of the minutes
[25:43]
of the full commission.
[25:45]
And there are reports and there are lease actions.
[25:52]
So that's at the full commission level.
[25:55]
I will pause there.
[25:57]
Any comments?
[25:58]
Questions?
[25:59]
Hearing none.
[26:00]
We will go on to the committees.
[26:02]
We will begin with planning, development, environment
[26:06]
Committee.
[26:08]
Which Chair Ginsburg leads.
[26:13]
And there's nothing much in open forum.
[26:18]
Its own consent report, they had both changed management
[26:25]
and authorizations and so forth.
[26:29]
Bids received, purchase approvals
[26:33]
and I'm going to pause there.
[26:37]
Any questions or comments?
[26:39]
Anything from the chair?
[26:41]
Okay.
[26:42]
Very important point is the business items.
[26:47]
And we already heard earlier about item 3.4.
[26:54]
The capital Improvement program amendment.
[26:57]
Which I think that the community felt.
[26:59]
We had made very good progress as an airport,
[27:06]
and we're showing what it means to be proper Minnesotans
[27:12]
and how we have handled that.
[27:14]
And I want to just thank the Chair for leading
[27:18]
that effort for the Commission.
[27:20]
I want to thank Brian and your team for that.
[27:24]
So, I've made my comments on the business
[27:28]
items, any other comments?
[27:30]
Rich?
[27:32]
>> Real quick on 3.4, I want to thank the chairs lead Brian
[27:37]
and staff and working with the drivers to get to a very solid
[27:43]
resolution that took a lot of time and effort.
[27:46]
So, thank you.
[27:53]
Thank you.
[27:54]
Anyone else?
[27:55]
Okay then we'll move on to O FNA and we
[27:58]
will begin with any questions from the open forum.
[28:06]
From the consent agenda.
[28:12]
From the business items?
[28:16]
I think one important one was 3.5 policy 2801 the Consultant
[28:23]
Policy.
[28:24]
This one which the committee and the commissioners
[28:29]
wrestled with, I think they have come to very good conclusion.
[28:38]
The version, which is in the papers for the meeting today
[28:43]
is the final version.
[28:46]
And I would then ask is there any questions?
[28:50]
Otherwise, hearing none, I'm going
[28:53]
to ask for a motion to approve the consent agenda.
[28:59]
>> Moved,
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>> Second.
[29:01]
>> The motion has been moved and seconded.
[29:03]
Can we do a roll call?
[29:05]
Okay.
[29:08]
[Members voting]
[29:29]
>> Thank you all ladies and gentlemen.
[29:31]
There are no business items today.
[29:32]
But, we have a couple of very interesting and important
[29:37]
information items.
[29:38]
And we will begin with the airline industry
[29:42]
and MSP air service update presentation.
[29:47]
Welcome.
[29:51]
>> Thank you chair Lawrence good afternoon commissioners
[29:53]
I'm Brian Peters director of Air service development for the Mac,
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and I'm happy to be here today to introduce our consulting team
[29:59]
from Asian Pacific Consulting Brad Furey and Oliver Lam who
[30:04]
will provide their annual update.
[30:06]
For new commissioners this is an update
[30:08]
they provide about once a year around this time of year.
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Brad and Ali founded a consulting in 2009
[30:16]
currently lead a team of about 14 professionals
[30:18]
that provide air service development
[30:21]
consulting for both airports and communities.
[30:23]
About 40 of them throughout the United States, Canada,
[30:27]
Australia, and I think New Zealand even.
[30:30]
So, with that I will hand it over to Ali,
[30:32]
and he will get going and we would
[30:34]
be happy to answer any questions that you may have
[30:36]
throughout the presentation.
[30:43]
Thank you Brian, Commissioner Lawrence and commissioners
[30:47]
thank you for having us here today.
[30:49]
It's always an honor to talk about this community.
[30:53]
What we're going to do today is we're
[30:56]
going to talk through four big areas of discussion.
[30:58]
First of all we're going to have a look at what
[31:00]
has happened in terms of our air service capacity
[31:02]
over the last 12 months, and put that into broader context.
[31:06]
And then Brad's going to talk to you
[31:07]
about what's happening in the broader industry
[31:09]
and how that affects us here in Minneapolis Saint Paul.
[31:12]
Then we are going to talk about our two wonderful hub carriers
[31:15]
at Hub Minneapolis and Saint Paul and what they're doing
[31:18]
and how they're evolving and how that's changing on the story.
[31:20]
And then finally I'm going to close off and talk to you
[31:22]
a little bit about the international trends
[31:24]
that we are seeing both nationwide and here
[31:26]
in Minneapolis Saint Paul.
[31:27]
And hopefully that will leave us with enough time
[31:30]
to get into some juicy questions at the end.
[31:36]
Excellent.
[31:36]
So what I'd like to start with is
[31:40]
to talk about what we've seen within the last 12 months
[31:42]
in terms of air service capacity.
[31:44]
What you can see on this chart is the comparison
[31:47]
of air service capacity for the last 12 months
[31:49]
versus the previous 12 months.
[31:51]
And this shows the whole calendar year of 2026
[31:53]
versus 2025.
[31:54]
We have highlighted in blue, the Midwest hub airports,
[31:58]
and you can see there that Minneapolis Saint
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Paul is sitting about 99.4% of 2025 capacity.
[32:05]
So 0.6% below where we were at in 2025.
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You compare that to the right hand side
[32:13]
you can see that Detroit is sitting about 3 or 3.5%
[32:16]
below where it was in 2025.
[32:17]
And at the other end of the scale
[32:19]
you can see Chicago O'hare sitting at about 12%
[32:22]
above where it was in 2025.
[32:24]
The unique thing about what we are
[32:26]
seeing with the two airports that
[32:28]
are sitting in the far left hand side of this chart, Chicago,
[32:30]
O'hare, and San Diego, they are in the middle of a hub battle
[32:34]
between two airlines right now.
[32:36]
And that's meaning that we are seeing in Chicago
[32:38]
a record amount of growth from American Airlines in the United
[32:41]
Airlines as they battle it out in Chicago.
[32:44]
By contrast coming here in Minneapolis Saint Paul
[32:47]
we are seeing a pretty flat 2025 to 2026.
[32:52]
Let's dig a little deeper in terms of why that's happening.
[32:56]
Why are we seeing the flat trajectory
[32:58]
between 2025 and 2026?
[33:00]
On this slide we've broken it down
[33:02]
by airline to show you what's happened
[33:04]
at each of these airlines because they
[33:05]
are various stories going on.
[33:07]
On the far left hand side of this chart you can see
[33:14]
the United's added over 100 thousand seats frontier has
[33:20]
added 76,000 seats all up nearly 300,000 seats being added
[33:25]
in the Minneapolis Saint Paul Market.
[33:27]
On the right hand side you can see our biggest losers.
[33:30]
In red you can see for instance spirit which has pulled out
[33:32]
of not only Minneapolis Saint Paul but every market
[33:34]
in the country.
[33:35]
Spirit has gone bankrupt.
[33:36]
So it no longer operates anywhere
[33:38]
in the United States or anywhere in the world I should say.
[33:41]
You can also see sun country sun country reduced its capacity
[33:45]
here in Saint Paul by 176,000 seats and Brad will talk about
[33:48]
in more detail about what's happening in that space and what
[33:50]
we can expect going forward.
[33:52]
But you can see within that headline
[33:55]
story we are 0.6% below where we were in 2025.
[33:58]
There is a variety of different stories
[34:00]
depending on which airline you're talking about that
[34:02]
are going on beneath the surface.
[34:03]
And I would like you to remember the story
[34:05]
that we are seeing in 2026.
[34:06]
You can see Delta growing in some sun country contracting
[34:10]
because we will come back to that story later on.
[34:13]
And if we have a look a bit broader
[34:16]
and we look at a longer time period,
[34:18]
and we go back to pre-pandemic and where we were at
[34:22]
pre-pandemic, you can see here that the story is a little bit
[34:25]
different again.
[34:26]
Again are three Midwest hub is highlighted in blue.
[34:28]
You can see Minneapolis Saint Paul sitting
[34:30]
at 93% of where it was at in 2019, Detroit sitting about 19%
[34:34]
of where it was in 2019, and Chicago O'hare
[34:37]
which was until this year sitting line ball with us
[34:40]
in terms of growth has now grown by 12% thanks to that battle
[34:45]
that we are seeing in Chicago O'hare.
[34:48]
So you can see there's still room
[34:49]
to grow in terms of where we were at pre-pandemic to where
[34:52]
we are at today.
[34:53]
But again, beneath this story lies a really interesting story
[34:56]
between the different airlines.
[34:57]
So if you remember two slides ago
[34:59]
I showed you that Sun Country had actually contracted
[35:02]
over the last 12 months.
[35:03]
When we cast a wider view, since before the pandemic,
[35:07]
Sun Country has actually been the biggest contributor
[35:10]
to growth of any airline compared
[35:13]
to the pre-pandemic period.
[35:15]
By contrast, you can see excluding
[35:17]
spirit which has exited the market,
[35:20]
Delta still hasn't recovered in Minneapolis Saint Paul
[35:22]
so even though they are one of the fastest growing airlines
[35:25]
over the last 12 months, which is a really positive trend as we
[35:28]
look forward, they still haven't recovered to where they were at
[35:31]
pre-pandemic.
[35:32]
So the story does look different when we look at different time
[35:35]
scales in this regard.
[35:37]
On this slide I'd like to talk a little bit about what
[35:40]
makes this really unique compared
[35:41]
to some of those other hubs that we are talking about.
[35:44]
This chart shows the proportion of seats
[35:47]
that are operated by the largest carrier in each of these hub
[35:52]
markets.
[35:52]
As you can see in the far left end of this chart
[35:55]
you can see the hubs that are most dominated by one carrier.
[35:58]
Taking Charlotte at the very far extreme
[36:00]
to the left more than two thirds of it capacity
[36:03]
is provided by one American airline.
[36:09]
The shortest column shows the second largest carrier
[36:13]
in these markets.
[36:13]
What's really unique about Minneapolis-Saint Paul
[36:16]
and something that is a huge strength to this market
[36:18]
is that our number two carrier is proportionately stronger
[36:22]
than any of those other hubs to the left of us.
[36:25]
So those hubs which are dominated
[36:26]
by really strong number one carrier,
[36:28]
and we do have a very strong number one carrier in fact
[36:31]
it's the strongest number one financially in the industry,
[36:35]
it's also supported by a very strong number two in sun Country
[36:39]
that makes us unique and it's one of the key strengths
[36:41]
that Minneapolis-Saint Paul has.
[36:43]
And it's one of those charts that I showed you
[36:45]
before when Delta was growing Sun Country was contracting when
[36:48]
Sun Country was growing Delta was contracting, that strength
[36:51]
and diversification allows us to be really
[36:54]
strong hub in the Midwest.
[36:55]
And we've had some really good news this year.
[36:59]
This is a beautiful picture of our newest destination
[37:01]
that all of you will be able to fly to this winter.
[37:03]
Maui, which will now be a nonstop destination out
[37:06]
of Minneapolis Saint Paul which is a fantastic
[37:08]
addition to our network, even though it's
[37:17]
a domestic destination for all intents and purposes it is
[37:21]
an international because it uses an international aircraft,
[37:25]
it's going to be flying nonstop to Maui.
[37:28]
So at the end of this year we're going
[37:29]
to have 167 nonstop destinations.
[37:33]
Nearly closing in on our target of 170 destinations by 2027.
[37:37]
It'll be a race to the finish line to get to that 170
[37:40]
but you can see here, we are really
[37:43]
closing in on that target with some really exciting wins
[37:45]
and we hope that by this time next year we
[37:48]
can report some exciting wins.
[37:49]
With that I'm going to hand it over to Brad.
[37:52]
>> Thanks.
[37:53]
So this year we want to talk a little bit more
[37:55]
about the industry in general, and what's going on.
[37:58]
Because what's happening externally from MSP
[38:01]
impacts MSP tremendously.
[38:02]
What we've seen over the last several years
[38:05]
is that the network carriers are driving all of the industry
[38:08]
profitability.
[38:09]
And that profitability is specifically
[38:12]
being driven by two carriers.
[38:13]
Delta and United.
[38:15]
If you look at this waterfall chart you see that $46 billion
[38:19]
of industry profits were made by Delta and United
[38:23]
out of a total of nearly 45.5 billion total.
[38:27]
Everybody else basically has netted out negatively.
[38:30]
There's a few carriers who are making money including Allegiant
[38:33]
and Sun Country.
[38:34]
But by the time you net it all out,
[38:37]
American and Delta basically account
[38:39]
for all of the industry's profits
[38:40]
over the last several years.
[38:42]
So why is that?
[38:44]
What's happened in the low fare category that's caused
[38:47]
those carriers to underperform?
[38:49]
Let me go back real quick.
[38:50]
All the carriers that are in green
[38:52]
would be classified as low fare carriers.
[38:54]
Three of those are negative, we know
[38:56]
spirit went out of business, Jetblue
[38:57]
is suffering tremendously Jetblue has been suffering
[39:00]
tremendously, the only profitable carriers
[39:04]
were Allegiant and Sun Country.
[39:06]
So what happened here?
[39:07]
If you look at the last ten years
[39:08]
you'll see that real GDP grew 126%,
[39:10]
but low fare capacity by those types of carriers grew 136%.
[39:14]
So they outgrew the economy.
[39:17]
They got real real aggressive on growth.
[39:19]
They put a lot of seats in the market
[39:21]
and they outgrew the demand.
[39:24]
Meanwhile the network carriers were much more conservative
[39:28]
Pierce the network carriers have managed their capacity
[39:30]
to demand much better.
[39:32]
And how does that translate into the real world?
[39:35]
You see here the green are the average domestic one way
[39:39]
fare for a low fare carrier.
[39:41]
In 2025 $74.
[39:43]
This was pre taxed one way.
[39:46]
The average was 188 in the network
[39:48]
carriers were getting 229.
[39:50]
Well a low fare carrier it should
[39:52]
have low fares that's great at 60 to 65% lower
[39:55]
than the network carriers.
[39:57]
The problem here is that with those lower fares
[40:00]
they were able to achieve a really strong position
[40:04]
in the market.
[40:05]
They grew to be 12% of the industry.
[40:07]
Today they are down to nine.
[40:09]
And that's partly spirit going out,
[40:11]
it's partly frontier scaling back.
[40:14]
But overall, that segment is shrinking.
[40:17]
And the reason it's shrinking is basically network carriers
[40:20]
won the battle.
[40:23]
If you look at what happened with the Ulcc,
[40:25]
the ultra low cost carrier model,
[40:27]
you see the competitive changes on the left.
[40:29]
This is where network carriers discovered they could
[40:32]
offer a basic economy fare.
[40:35]
Basically the same fare that you would get on a frontier spirit
[40:45]
you get the quality of service associated with that.
[40:48]
So people started voting, you get
[40:50]
the same fare are you going to get fly spirit or Delta.
[40:53]
So that started to happen.
[40:54]
Also the network carriers brand won out
[40:56]
they started bundling packages together
[40:58]
they just offered a better product with more choices.
[41:00]
You have a lot more options when you fly a network carrier
[41:03]
than you do a low fare carrier.
[41:06]
We also saw the impact of the carrier economy
[41:09]
where the top part of the economy we're
[41:13]
doing better than people are in the lower ends
[41:16]
people who had been flying couldn't
[41:19]
afford to fly how they did in the first few years out
[41:22]
of the pandemic.
[41:22]
And I already mentioned the fact that the low fare carriers
[41:25]
Overexpanded.
[41:25]
At the same time this was happening
[41:28]
they were losing on the revenue side
[41:30]
with the competitive changes.
[41:31]
At the same time their costs were converging.
[41:35]
They had aging fleets that needed more maintenance.
[41:37]
The honeymoon of having brand new airplanes you all
[41:40]
know that when your warranty runs out
[41:41]
on your new car that's basically what was happening here.
[41:44]
At the same time, their pilots and flight attendants
[41:48]
fly the same airplanes, they want the same wages.
[41:51]
It's a competitive labor market.
[41:57]
All of a sudden their pilots are getting paid the same or roughly
[42:00]
the same as the network carriers.
[42:02]
There was some issues with engine durability
[42:05]
that I won't get into.
[42:06]
But basically what you can see the cost advantage that low fare
[42:10]
carriers had has dissipated.
[42:11]
They still have one.
[42:13]
But it's not as big as it used to be.
[42:16]
In the meantime the network carriers
[42:18]
have a lot more opportunity to generate more revenue.
[42:21]
So the equation just changed.
[42:23]
Now network carriers hold a very strong advantage.
[42:26]
And we see where consolidation has happened.
[42:29]
The biggest consolidation move in the industry
[42:31]
in the last few years is happening right here.
[42:34]
With allegiance acquisition of Sun Country.
[42:36]
And you can see the 72 there sun country over there was
[42:42]
responsible for 12,000 seats a day,
[42:47]
you add that into the Allegiant thing you're at 74,000 seats
[42:51]
but you can still see the scale of those low fare carriers.
[42:55]
Spirit is out come everybody else is
[42:57]
a bit player you've got frontier and Jetblue, they are bigger.
[43:01]
But they're not that big.
[43:02]
So you really see this consolidation.
[43:04]
We consider southwest to be a network carrier now
[43:07]
comet's repositioning itself to be more similar to the big three
[43:11]
than a low cost carrier anymore.
[43:12]
So you can really see how the network carriers have basically
[43:17]
won this battle.
[43:19]
So how does that impact us here?
[43:22]
Fortunately at MSP, not all low fare carriers are created equal.
[43:25]
In the two best as I mentioned the profitability last year
[43:28]
they were the only profitable low fare carriers,
[43:31]
this past quarter Allegiant, which
[43:34]
has the sun country numbers built into it now,
[43:38]
because they are one company, was the most profitable airline
[43:42]
in the margin basis in the country.
[43:44]
Just slightly beating Delta.
[43:45]
So we've got a good base here.
[43:47]
And the reason that that's important
[43:50]
is Sun Country had a limited opportunity to grow
[43:53]
and you have to grow in the industry
[43:55]
to keep your costs in check.
[43:57]
Sun Country was painted into a corner
[44:01]
more or less in terms of what it could do.
[44:03]
So what it did, as it put itself up for sale basically.
[44:06]
In the one airline that is the best match for Sun
[44:09]
Country is the one that bought it.
[44:11]
So now you have two airlines that have very similar business
[44:14]
model.
[44:15]
Really the only difference is the philosophy of the routes
[44:19]
that they fly in that all of Sun Country's routes
[44:22]
were originating here, going south.
[44:24]
Whereas most of the allegiant's routes were south going north.
[44:27]
From smaller markets.
[44:29]
But overall, a very complimentary marriage.
[44:35]
And he said this several times publicly,
[44:38]
but it's really important to reiterate.
[44:40]
Without MSP, sun country was not relevant to Allegiant.
[44:44]
The reason that they were buying MSP or buying
[44:47]
Sun Country in the first place was
[44:48]
to get access to this market.
[44:50]
It's not for the charter program,
[44:51]
it's not for their Amazon contract,
[44:53]
they could get that on their own if they wanted it.
[44:55]
Allegiant is a very very focused carrier,
[44:58]
they are very successful.
[44:59]
They wanted MSP for the Twin Cities market.
[45:03]
And that's important to understand,
[45:05]
they're not going to give it up just because there's
[45:07]
been a merger.
[45:08]
That's why they bought it in the first place.
[45:10]
And if you look at MSP today is the largest station
[45:13]
in the combined airline's network.
[45:15]
The rest of them are all Florida and Arizona basically Las Vegas.
[45:20]
Those are all destination markets.
[45:22]
Even though MSP is a very different kind
[45:24]
of market, the customer, the passenger
[45:27]
is the same kind of passenger.
[45:29]
The passenger that sun country flies out of here
[45:32]
is the same kind of person that Allegiant
[45:35]
is flying in its network.
[45:37]
You're going on vacation come you're going for a long weekend
[45:40]
someplace, for a bachelorette party
[45:42]
or, you're going down to visit Grandma and Grandpa in Florida.
[45:46]
Whatever it is, it's a very similar customer.
[45:49]
So that's a good combination, but MSP
[45:52]
will be the biggest airport in the system probably
[45:55]
for the foreseeable future.
[45:57]
Moving on to Delta Delta is growing in MSP slowly,
[46:01]
but its current focus is not here.
[46:04]
They still remain the second largest hub,
[46:06]
growing slightly just 0.5%.
[46:10]
It's important here to note, that the hubs
[46:14]
in red, Minneapolis, Detroit, Atlanta, and Salt Lake
[46:18]
are referred to as the core hubs.
[46:19]
All of the other hubs are coastal hubs and that's probably
[46:23]
pretty self-explanatory.
[46:24]
But this is where their hubs are and where they are investing.
[46:28]
And we will get into a little bit of why
[46:30]
that's important in a minute.
[46:31]
Oh, here it is right here.
[46:32]
So, delta has spent the last several years
[46:36]
investing in what some people call once in a lifetime
[46:38]
opportunity spirit with all of the things that are shaking out
[46:40]
in the industry, Delta has an opportunity
[46:43]
because of its strength to go into these very very constrained
[46:47]
markets in the Northeast and the Pacific coast
[46:51]
and carve out real estate.
[46:54]
And to make a claim for longer term presence in those markets.
[46:59]
And they've done that by adding a lot of capacity
[47:01]
and investing a lot in facilities in the coast.
[47:04]
There is a limited opportunity for them to do that.
[47:07]
These airports are filling up some of them are full today
[47:10]
and there's not new growth happening anytime soon at most
[47:13]
of these airports.
[47:14]
So it's sort of a land grab if you
[47:15]
want to think of it that way.
[47:16]
In the meantime, the core hubs have not
[47:19]
been invested in, primarily because it
[47:22]
isn't as important right now.
[47:24]
They can come back to all of the core hubs at any point.
[47:27]
There's not a significant competitive pressure
[47:30]
that's requiring them to attend to them today.
[47:33]
So they are investing in those coastal hubs
[47:36]
while they can to set themselves up for success in the long run.
[47:42]
You can look at year over year the growth
[47:46]
has been primarily in the coastal hubs.
[47:48]
But like I said, those hubs are reaching their capacity limits
[47:51]
there's not a lot of growth at JFK or Laguardia
[47:53]
up here at Once that's complete they'll have to return growth
[48:07]
to the core hubs.
[48:08]
Which by the way, finance the growth in the coastal hubs.
[48:15]
Stepping back and just taking a look at where they are today,
[48:18]
MSP is the third largest originating market for Delta,
[48:22]
these are passages not connecting here.
[48:26]
But passengers who live here or who
[48:28]
are traveling to the Twin Cities it's the third largest hub here
[48:31]
it was at 0.2 million to 11.1 million,
[48:35]
while connections were down just a little bit from 10.5 to 10.3
[48:39]
million but it's still the second largest connecting hub
[48:41]
as well in the network.
[48:43]
We know in the past there has been concern
[48:48]
about the ratio of local versus connecting passengers,
[48:52]
and we've seen that, we talked about this last year.
[48:55]
Last year it was 49% connecting.
[48:56]
Off of a base a decade ago of about 60%.
[49:01]
It went down just a little bit one
[49:03]
more percentage point this last year.
[49:04]
But you'll note, it's very similar between to Detroit
[49:08]
and Salt Lake which are the two hubs that
[49:10]
are closest in size for Delta.
[49:12]
Very similar situation.
[49:14]
We've seen that not just with Delta but most
[49:17]
of the other airline hubs.
[49:18]
The major hubs have all pretty much
[49:21]
seen a declining share of connecting traffic over time.
[49:23]
That's partly due to the fact that there's not
[49:26]
a lot of nonstop service available on couriers
[49:28]
like Allegiant.
[49:29]
So people who used to fly out of Duluth going to Florida,
[49:33]
over MSP, a lot of them are flying nonstop now.
[49:37]
This isn't a bad thing.
[49:38]
Delta is doing great here so it's not a bad thing,
[49:41]
it's just how the traffic has balanced.
[49:44]
And we will note that this year MSP will be the ninth busiest
[49:48]
connecting hub in the country.
[49:49]
Which when you consider that MSP is the 22nd largest owned
[49:53]
market, demand market basically and the 16th largest MSA is
[49:58]
still very very well positioned for the long run we don't see
[50:03]
any particular challenges to that.
[50:07]
>> Things give the guy with the accent the international markets
[50:10]
to deal with.
[50:11]
Perfect.
[50:11]
Awesome.
[50:11]
So I'm going to talk to you a little bit about what
[50:14]
we are seeing in terms of an international context
[50:16]
because I think it's really important that we focus
[50:18]
on this because it's going to inform some of the conversations
[50:20]
that we will be having with you over the next 12 months
[50:23]
in terms of what's changing.
[50:24]
On this slide we are looking at the two big components
[50:27]
of international demand.
[50:28]
Those components are Americans who travel abroad,
[50:32]
and visitors who come to the United States.
[50:34]
So in the dark blue you can see those Americans
[50:36]
who are traveling abroad.
[50:38]
People who buy their tickets here in the United States
[50:40]
to travel abroad.
[50:41]
In light blue you can see the visitors
[50:43]
coming to the United States.
[50:44]
What we saw between 2024 and the start of 2025
[50:48]
was that both were growing, in fact visitation
[50:50]
to the United States was growing really strongly and up 10% year
[50:53]
over year.
[50:54]
Then something happened in January 2025
[50:56]
we can all speculate what.
[50:58]
And we can see what happened.
[51:00]
Outbound demand from the United States Americans traveling
[51:03]
abroad continued to grow, but visitation into the United
[51:06]
States fell off.
[51:07]
And so what that has translated to is
[51:10]
if you talk to the different airlines,
[51:11]
the U.S. Carriers are saying our international demand is looking
[51:15]
good because they predominantly sell to Americans traveling
[51:19]
abroad, however when we talk to foreign carriers
[51:22]
the foreign carriers who's traveling to Saint Paul
[51:24]
they're saying the opposite they're
[51:26]
saying it's not looking good, and that's
[51:28]
all being driven by this falling off
[51:29]
a cliff of the international demand coming into the United
[51:32]
States.
[51:33]
And when we dig a little bit deeper
[51:34]
and we look at this on an individual market base
[51:36]
across the United States, since that inflection
[51:39]
point of January 2025.
[51:40]
We have broken down each of the top 25 United States markets
[51:43]
to see what that's meant from a visitation
[51:45]
into the United States perspective.
[51:47]
Some markets, a few markets have performed well.
[51:50]
Dallas, Honolulu, Orlando, although I
[51:53]
will note that some of those markets
[51:54]
didn't do very well during the pandemic.
[51:56]
And the overall United States average
[51:58]
from visitation into the United States
[52:00]
fell by 4.3% since that inflection point
[52:03]
in January of 2025.
[52:04]
Here at MSP we saw that drop 7%.
[52:07]
So worse than the national average.
[52:09]
We've heard that time and time again
[52:11]
from our foreign flag carriers.
[52:13]
The negative press particularly over this past winter
[52:16]
that Minneapolis Saint Paul got and many foreign markets really
[52:20]
impacted the perception of Minneapolis Saint
[52:22]
Paul in those markets.
[52:24]
People chose not to come because of what they saw on TV.
[52:27]
That is a problem that we have to battle.
[52:29]
That is a problem outside of our wheelhouse
[52:30]
but it is a problem that we have to battle nonetheless.
[52:33]
So that will inform the conversations
[52:35]
that we have with our airlines.
[52:36]
Over time we hope that those memories will fade away
[52:39]
and hopefully people will come back.
[52:41]
That's our goal.
[52:43]
But that is the context in which we are operating.
[52:46]
And with that, we would just like to summarize and close out.
[52:49]
And I think there's a couple of things that are really
[52:51]
important to remember.
[52:52]
The fundamentals here in the Twin Cities in Minnesota
[52:55]
are really strong.
[52:56]
We have an incredible hub carrier
[52:58]
in Delta come one of the strongest
[53:00]
airlines in the industry, we have
[53:01]
the only consistently profitable low cost carrier
[53:05]
as Brad talked about merging with the most
[53:07]
profitable low cost carrier in the industry.
[53:10]
That's an incredible position for us to have.
[53:12]
We have an incredible community that
[53:14]
is driving this ongoing growth and demand
[53:17]
whether it's from a perspective of outbound travel,
[53:19]
or from a connecting perspective.
[53:21]
We are very close to our 2027 target,
[53:26]
we have tempered our expectations here
[53:28]
because we don't want to over bake the cake on this one.
[53:31]
But we do want to get close to that 2027 target of 170
[53:35]
nonstop destinations.
[53:36]
Our low fare carrier economics are changing.
[53:40]
They have been challenged significantly
[53:42]
over the last couple of years.
[53:44]
But nonetheless Minneapolis-Saint Paul
[53:46]
is positioned better than anybody else
[53:48]
to cope with that transition as low cost carriers transition
[53:52]
and we merge the two strongest couriers in that space.
[53:56]
And what's also really interesting
[53:58]
is looking at how Delta is growing.
[53:59]
Delta has prioritized those coastal hubs
[54:02]
as Brad talked about, but the time
[54:04]
will come when those coastal hubs have closed out,
[54:06]
their full, and delta will turn its attention
[54:09]
back to the core hubs that generate
[54:10]
the profit that MSP and the other core hubs
[54:13]
have demonstrated.
[54:14]
And with that we would like to open the floor up for questions.
[54:18]
>> Thank you Mr. Chair, I want to go back to the comment about
[54:22]
what transpired in Minneapolis Saint Paul.
[54:26]
And if I heard this right, that had a very significant impact
[54:32]
on foreign travel here.
[54:35]
Do we have the facts and figures to back up
[54:39]
what the perception was of foreign travelers?
[54:43]
Was it any certain issue?
[54:45]
Was it any particular reason?
[54:48]
That we can cite?
[54:50]
Because that's a pretty broad statement.
[54:53]
Because I've been hearing it in a lot of different ways
[54:57]
and different groups using it.
[54:58]
So I would like to get a sense of what you see.
[55:02]
>> That's a wonderful question Commissioner Ginsberg.
[55:04]
Maybe I can paraphrase what one airline said to us.
[55:07]
They pulled up the front page of the German newspaper
[55:09]
and they said when you search Minneapolis Saint
[55:13]
Paul in the German newspaper look at what you see?
[55:15]
To be fair this was in March of this year
[55:18]
and it was a particularly sensitive time,
[55:20]
but they said people don't want to travel to somewhere where
[55:22]
they feel like there are rights and the streets.
[55:24]
That was the perception.
[55:26]
We obviously challenged that perception
[55:28]
and said that's obviously you know only part of the story
[55:31]
and that the Twin Cities in Minnesota has a lot to offer.
[55:34]
And I think certainly the conversations are definitely
[55:37]
changing now because that sensitive period has changed.
[55:40]
But to answer your question directly,
[55:42]
the reality was the Ice agents in the streets
[55:47]
was the real problem that people saw in foreign >> Wonderful.
[55:54]
So whatever the event was in January 2025?
[55:56]
Will that continue to be a negative now that the surge
[56:01]
issue seems to be I'm just trying
[56:05]
to get a sense of how much more we could look forward to losing.
[56:11]
>> Look I wish I had a crystal ball Commissioner Ginsberg
[56:13]
to tell you what was going to happen over the next 12 months.
[56:15]
But our hope, and certainly the tenor of the conversations
[56:18]
that we are having now is that things are certainly improving
[56:22]
from a perception basis.
[56:23]
We hope that continues.
[56:25]
We don't want to go back to I don't
[56:27]
think anybody in this community wants to go back to what
[56:29]
we saw this past winter.
[56:30]
And I certainly think the airline cares shares
[56:34]
the same impact same opinion.
[56:38]
>> I think it's fair to share if we get back to the level
[56:41]
of every other U.S. Destination would be great,
[56:44]
but the bar has gone higher, however you want to say it.
[56:47]
But everything has gotten much worse overall
[56:49]
for the whole country.
[56:50]
So we have to be realistic about what
[56:53]
the foreign demand for travel to the United States is.
[57:09]
>> Coming from a community that's been targeted,
[57:11]
I think ice does have a really huge impact.
[57:14]
You have Ice in your policies right?
[57:16]
So coming from higher education, even international students
[57:20]
are not coming.
[57:21]
And I think there was a newspaper article today
[57:26]
in the Forbes magazine about the declining international students
[57:31]
and the impact on revenue with college and universities.
[57:34]
Many of the colleges rely heavily
[57:36]
on international students from India
[57:38]
from China and from other places.
[57:41]
So the ice raid I would call it, we basically scared them away.
[57:50]
The other thing is I think even with the recent policy directive
[57:55]
from Washington D.C. They were focused on African nations.
[58:01]
Visas.
[58:02]
Where you have to deposit $20,000 in order to do that so I
[58:08]
think it's these series of not only just ice,
[58:11]
but also policies that can have an impact.
[58:13]
My mother in law wanted to travel to France,
[58:17]
and we didn't want her to go, but she wanted to go.
[58:22]
So she's over there now, she's coming back in the conversation
[58:25]
that I had with my wife yesterday was
[58:27]
I'm afraid that she might be detained on the way back.
[58:31]
Even though she's a United States citizen.
[58:32]
So it's that kind of fear that I think is preventing people.
[58:37]
You don't want to find out.
[58:40]
What's going to happen.
[58:41]
But, I think that's really affecting a lot of these.
[58:46]
>> We've heard it from multiple international airlines,
[58:48]
that just the sentiment, like we have conversations with them.
[58:53]
They're very concerned about the demand
[58:56]
from foreign points of sale to the U.S.
[59:00]
And we are seeing that in real world.
[59:03]
>> Also Commissioner to validate what you're saying,
[59:06]
we're also hearing from communities of interest
[59:08]
in the Twin Cities who are U.S. Citizens who don't want
[59:10]
to travel to their homeland because they're worried about
[59:13]
whether they can come back much like what you're expressing.
[59:15]
So what you are saying we hear absolutely.
[59:19]
>> It's impacting air service around the country.
[59:22]
For the first time in a long time
[59:23]
we're starting to see foreign carriers suspend U.S. Routes.
[59:28]
We hadn't really seen much of that for several years.
[59:31]
They're starting to pull back a little bit now.
[59:34]
So that is impacting close to home as well.
[59:38]
>> Other comments or questions?
[59:40]
Yes?
[59:45]
>> Thank you Mr. Chair.
[59:46]
I was just curious if you see a time Allegiant they've canceled
[59:49]
like 33% of their flights.
[59:51]
How long is this going to >> Our conversation with them,
[59:58]
it's not going to be a long term thing.
[1:00:00]
Whenever you have a merger, the union contracts
[1:00:04]
for the pilots in particular which
[1:00:06]
is a very transferable skill, they become an issue.
[1:00:10]
If you were at the bottom of a seniority
[1:00:12]
list going into a merger.
[1:00:14]
It's a good time to make a change
[1:00:17]
if the opportunity exists.
[1:00:19]
While all of that is happening, Delta
[1:00:22]
has been going through a pretty major hiring phase on pilots.
[1:00:26]
Two different things, coincidence
[1:00:28]
it happened at the same time and as you
[1:00:30]
can imagine if you're an MSP based
[1:00:31]
pilot is going to be at the bottom of a combined seniority
[1:00:35]
list and Delta is hiring, you might take a look.
[1:00:40]
So that's been part of it.
[1:00:41]
It's only part of it.
[1:00:44]
Sun country always pulls back in September
[1:00:48]
so that's also pretty typical.
[1:00:49]
From the indications we've gotten you know they're hiring.
[1:00:53]
They're bringing people into their classes
[1:00:54]
they'll get back up here Allegiant actually
[1:00:56]
has a bit of a pilot surplus right now.
[1:00:59]
So once they actually merge the operating certificates
[1:01:02]
and can start cross-training pilots and moving them around,
[1:01:05]
they shouldn't have a problem.
[1:01:07]
Allegiant's never really had a problem attracting pilots.
[1:01:09]
Being a profitable airline is a very very attractive place
[1:01:14]
for a pilot to land.
[1:01:15]
Because you know we just saw what happened to spirit,
[1:01:18]
and those guys are going to be at the bottom of all
[1:01:20]
of the seniority lists looking for new jobs now.
[1:01:22]
So it will sort itself out.
[1:01:24]
But it is a little bit of a problem at the moment for sure.
[1:01:27]
>> Okay thank you.
[1:01:29]
>> Any other questions or comments?
[1:01:30]
Thank you very much.
[1:01:32]
It's been a very useful presentation.
[1:01:34]
Thanks for the very good work.
[1:01:37]
Now, before we move on to the agenda,
[1:01:40]
there have been some late arriving
[1:01:43]
people wishing to speak.
[1:01:45]
And I'm going to just, I believe you all
[1:01:50]
are affiliated with the SEIU?
[1:01:52]
I want to give you the opportunity either individually
[1:01:56]
or as a pair or a triple.
[1:02:02]
I have the names.
[1:02:04]
I apologize for mispronouncing. --
[1:02:23]
I believe I have two for you.
[1:02:25]
So I may have missed somebody.
[1:02:26]
So is there anyone who would care to speak,
[1:02:29]
please come forward.
[1:02:30]
We've got your cards I hope.
[1:02:55]
>> Hello to the Commission, thank you for the chance
[1:02:57]
to speak with you today.
[1:02:58]
My name is Abdurrahman, I drive for Uber and Lyft serving
[1:03:05]
customers here at the MSP, I'm a member of SEIU.
[1:03:12]
Local 26.
[1:03:13]
I'm here to speak about the proposal
[1:03:16]
to build permanent restrooms.
[1:03:19]
In the driver's waiting area.
[1:03:23]
I think it's something good.
[1:03:25]
Drivers have been struggling for a long time.
[1:03:28]
The first bathrooms we had were outside portables
[1:03:32]
that were very hot during the summer and cold
[1:03:35]
during the winter.
[1:03:40]
I want to thank the MSP for improving the bathrooms that
[1:03:45]
have been running water and the drivers washing their hands,
[1:03:54]
I want to thank the members of the leaders of Siu look
[1:03:58]
who have kept standing together with the drivers
[1:04:00]
and other workers, we have come here together so many times,
[1:04:06]
along with the bathrooms which was appreciated,
[1:04:09]
but drivers also need a waiting area
[1:04:11]
where we can escape the heat and cold
[1:04:14]
without running our engines.
[1:04:17]
This will be a place where drivers could stay while we
[1:04:24]
wait to serve customers nearby.
[1:04:27]
I want to share my things with the union and everyone who
[1:04:31]
is working to make the drivers lives better.
[1:04:34]
Thank you so much.
[1:04:37]
>> Thank you sir.
[1:04:38]
I believe there is Mark Sharif who wishes
[1:04:42]
to speak is that correct?
[1:04:43]
Please come forward.
[1:04:45]
Thank you.
[1:04:54]
>> Thank you my name is Mohamed Sharif.
[1:04:55]
I have been driving Uber and Lyft since 2023,
[1:05:01]
I moved from Boston.
[1:05:07]
I didn't drive Uber and Lyft in Boston
[1:05:10]
but I drove taxi and limousine.
[1:05:14]
And I think the union for this opportunity
[1:05:17]
to come in front of you.
[1:05:20]
The gentleman before me we really
[1:05:27]
appreciate the permanent bathroom in the waiting area.
[1:05:34]
In addition, even 15ft place as a waiting place it would
[1:05:47]
wouldn't be necessary for us to run the engine in idle
[1:05:51]
in the waiting area.
[1:05:57]
We ask if you can add that into the proposal
[1:06:01]
and also in addition to that the Uber and Lyft pick up
[1:06:06]
area inside the airport.
[1:06:14]
We think very well organized direct customers and drivers
[1:06:20]
in moving lane and also for parking.
[1:06:22]
But.
[1:06:23]
Our experience for security customer
[1:06:28]
when they come to the airport.
[1:06:30]
They are eagle to eager to get out of the airport
[1:06:34]
and to get their car and to move on.
[1:06:37]
So many times customers come to the airport
[1:06:41]
and get out and just cross the line.
[1:06:46]
And go to the back to get their car.
[1:06:51]
And that creates very risky , and in front I have experience
[1:07:00]
in Boston people dying in that case.
[1:07:04]
If we put the additional sign directing people
[1:07:08]
not to cross the lane the moving lane,
[1:07:14]
and also the elevator is in front of the a.
[1:07:19]
And number A is on a.
[1:07:22]
So people are crowded in zone A all the time
[1:07:26]
and now the drivers have a lot of traffic
[1:07:28]
to get in front of the customer.
[1:07:30]
So if we put the sign, they can move to B or C,
[1:07:39]
direct to the customer.
[1:07:40]
Then that would be helpful.
[1:07:41]
Thank you.
[1:07:44]
>> Thank you very much.
[1:07:47]
Again I've had a number of these cards come up, some of them
[1:07:49]
are duplicates.
[1:07:50]
So I think I've called on everybody who wishes
[1:07:53]
to speak in the public forum?
[1:07:55]
If so, let's move down to Alice and Kelly
[1:08:00]
with an update on the Mac labor agreements.
[1:08:10]
>> Hello.
[1:08:11]
Good afternoon.
[1:08:19]
All right.
[1:08:22]
I'm Allison Kelly, I'm the labor and employee relations
[1:08:27]
manager for the Mac, chair and commissioners
[1:08:31]
I'm happy to be here.
[1:08:32]
As the last of our Mac labor agreements were approved today,
[1:08:35]
and also to give you an information session summarizing
[1:08:39]
the conclusion of our Mac bargaining season.
[1:08:45]
This was my first round of negotiations here at the Mac.
[1:08:49]
With these Mac groups.
[1:08:53]
There have also been several new commissioners
[1:08:55]
who have joined us along the way as these contracts have settled.
[1:08:58]
I'm hoping this is good information sharing
[1:09:00]
and everybody gets a good grasp of what we did
[1:09:04]
and where we are at today and what we have to look forward to.
[1:09:08]
So, let me -- let me give you some summary here.
[1:09:13]
We have about 826 permanent employees who work for the Mac.
[1:09:18]
About half of those are employees
[1:09:20]
who are represented by a labor union.
[1:09:22]
We have a total of 13 labor contracts.
[1:09:25]
All of our Mac's permanent employees
[1:09:28]
are defined as public employees, and the collective bargaining
[1:09:32]
process is governed by the Minnesota public Labor Relations
[1:09:36]
Act and para.
[1:09:38]
Under State statute chapter 179 a.
[1:09:42]
So the Mac employees that work in and around
[1:09:44]
the MSP airport and campus as well as our six reliever
[1:09:48]
airports.
[1:09:51]
Sometimes it gets confusing we have
[1:09:54]
Mac folks intertwined with a lot of other MSP employees.
[1:09:57]
So com a total of 13 contracts, let's break that down.
[1:10:01]
I'm going to break it down by the expiration time,
[1:10:04]
so we have eight contracts that expire December 31st of 2025.
[1:10:07]
So the eight tend to expire at the end of the year.
[1:10:11]
Or every three years.
[1:10:13]
And during our negotiation period,
[1:10:16]
those eight expire first, and then those groups begin
[1:10:23]
negotiating in late summer or early fall,
[1:10:25]
and they kind of work through the process however long each
[1:10:28]
1st May take.
[1:10:29]
We have our International Union of Operating Engineers local 70,
[1:10:34]
we have our firefighters driver operators
[1:10:36]
fire captains, battalion chiefs, our emergency communications
[1:10:41]
specialist, those are like our 911 dispatch folks.
[1:10:44]
We have police officers, police sergeants
[1:10:46]
come a place youth tenants, and our international local
[1:10:50]
operators 49, those are the eight that
[1:10:51]
expire at the end of the year.
[1:10:53]
Then we have our three that expire in the spring and April.
[1:10:57]
The same as April of 2026.
[1:11:02]
And we typically start meeting with those folks
[1:11:05]
in early February or March, sometimes
[1:11:07]
there's a little bit of overlap.
[1:11:09]
Those are all completed.
[1:11:11]
And most of those happened pretty close to on time.
[1:11:15]
Which is good.
[1:11:16]
We have one contract that expires June 30th,
[1:11:18]
we just approved that one you did your final approval on that
[1:11:21]
one today.
[1:11:21]
And then we have one last one, a trades group that expires April
[1:11:26]
30th of 2027.
[1:11:28]
The reason that last trades contract is a little different
[1:11:31]
is because we pay the outside total package
[1:11:37]
rate for those plumbers.
[1:11:38]
So we've lined up their time, to line up with our outside plumber
[1:11:42]
contract.
[1:11:43]
So, some of our major highlights from negotiations,
[1:11:47]
we have our 2026 wage increase of three and a half,
[1:11:51]
our 2027 wage increase of 3% in 2028 and our 3.5% wage increase.
[1:11:56]
So all of our represented folks are
[1:11:58]
going to receive those wage increases.
[1:12:00]
We did do market adjustments where
[1:12:03]
warranted by analysis about five bargaining units
[1:12:06]
were impacted by that.
[1:12:07]
We did achieve consistency of observed holidays,
[1:12:10]
and when floating holidays are used by across the Mac
[1:12:13]
we kind of had a mish mash of different dates
[1:12:16]
so it's nice to have that all consistent.
[1:12:18]
We had numerous changes to our leave of absence language
[1:12:20]
to comply with recent state legislation for sick
[1:12:24]
and leave time.
[1:12:26]
And Family medical leave and lining those up
[1:12:28]
with policies and the Mac's approach
[1:12:30]
to those various leaves.
[1:12:32]
We had our East weather exemption language,
[1:12:35]
and we had our vacation accrual process,
[1:12:40]
so every unionized group and Mac employee will
[1:12:42]
have had their opportunity to do that process by the end
[1:12:46]
of this calendar year.
[1:12:48]
We also achieved some compliance with our health care savings
[1:12:51]
plan accounts based on how Msrs prefers that we structure those,
[1:12:56]
so we made some really good achievements,
[1:12:59]
you know, the unions primarily have various economic proposals
[1:13:02]
common in this round of negotiations
[1:13:04]
there's a fair amount of language proposals.
[1:13:07]
Mostly due to a lot of legislative changes.
[1:13:09]
And we were able to work through all
[1:13:10]
of those items for each of the different groups really
[1:13:13]
successfully.
[1:13:16]
So, gratitude and what's next.
[1:13:19]
I think in my role, which I think sometimes
[1:13:22]
isn't always viewed as the most favorite person in the room.
[1:13:28]
I think it's really important to show gratitude,
[1:13:31]
because the work that we do together
[1:13:34]
is a lot it's intense work.
[1:13:37]
And it's sensitive.
[1:13:39]
And it has to do with the livelihood of our employees.
[1:13:43]
So I want to just take a minute to give my gratitude.
[1:13:48]
The negotiation process is long.
[1:13:51]
It takes a lot of people to successfully work through it
[1:13:54]
all.
[1:13:54]
I want to -- there's a lot of people to thank through this
[1:13:59]
process.
[1:13:59]
So first, each and every union Steward and representative
[1:14:04]
who engaged in the negotiations this round,
[1:14:07]
I give my gratitude and appreciation.
[1:14:09]
Many of our contrasts face some challenging topics,
[1:14:12]
whether it was the state imposed changes, compensation structure
[1:14:16]
changes, holidays, there was really
[1:14:18]
no issue too small or too big for us
[1:14:20]
to tackle collaboratively.
[1:14:22]
The union stewards put their time and efforts
[1:14:24]
into this process, and it does not go unnoticed.
[1:14:27]
I also want to thank the department representatives who
[1:14:29]
sat at each table with me, it was a time consuming process,
[1:14:32]
they each had other competing priorities,
[1:14:34]
but they made thoughtful and creative contributions
[1:14:37]
and they took time to ensure that I understood
[1:14:39]
their operations and their needs to make bargaining
[1:14:42]
productive and transparent.
[1:14:43]
Which is really critical for the success of bargaining.
[1:14:47]
I want to acknowledge the fellow comrades in HR and finance,
[1:14:51]
the Business partners coordinators
[1:14:53]
benefits team payroll team, all of their work
[1:14:55]
through the bargaining process and implementing these changes.
[1:14:57]
No matter what I do at the table,
[1:14:59]
they have to help me implement it and work it through.
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So their work is critical.
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And lastly I want to appreciate or highlight my appreciation
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for Kathy McGarry, Vice President of Human Resources
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and Labor Relations.
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Her support and leadership along with the executive team
[1:15:15]
helped set the tone with the labor groups,
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they've been really clear communicators with me
[1:15:19]
about their expectations with my role
[1:15:21]
as I engage with labor throughout this process,
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this is an organization that cares about its employees,
[1:15:26]
and that starts at the top with Brian.
[1:15:28]
And it's obvious, and it shows up at the bargaining table.
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If you've ever negotiated a labor contract
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or had the privilege to even be close to the universe
[1:15:36]
of negotiating a labor contract, you
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know it can easily become contentious and frustrations
[1:15:41]
escalate.
[1:15:42]
That isn't to say that each table this round was easy
[1:15:45]
or that people didn't get frustrated,
[1:15:47]
but overall, everyone was respectful,
[1:15:50]
people took time to listen to each other,
[1:15:52]
and while that may seem like a very common sense approach,
[1:15:55]
it surely is an easy thing to take for granted.
[1:15:58]
But it does make a world of difference in the process.
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So, given that everyone is asking me what's next!
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What do we do?
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So we really do have to finalize the implementation of all
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of these agreements.
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There is quite a bit of work to do
[1:16:12]
on that on the back end that's kind of invisible.
[1:16:15]
And then we monitor for the mid changes,
[1:16:18]
we did a lot of things in the out years
[1:16:20]
so we have to make sure that those things get completed.
[1:16:22]
We continue, I will do information sharing sessions
[1:16:26]
with departments to make sure that everybody understands
[1:16:29]
how to administer the contract.
[1:16:30]
And then we just continue to work through that process
[1:16:33]
with key partners.
[1:16:35]
We will get back to our regular management committees,
[1:16:37]
and maintain good consistent communication
[1:16:39]
with our labor groups.
[1:16:40]
And then just general continued labor relations
[1:16:43]
program administration, addressing issues
[1:16:45]
as they arise throughout the contract period.
[1:16:47]
There's never really a shortage of something to work on.
[1:16:50]
And then, in the spring we will start negotiations
[1:16:53]
with the United Association of Plumbers Local 34
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so you will get a break from me until about then.
[1:16:59]
But that's kind of the big thing ahead.
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I appreciate your time and support,
[1:17:07]
and understanding this process.
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I think that's important for our employees to know and hear.
[1:17:12]
I think that's important for you all to know in here as well.
[1:17:15]
The Mac works because we all put the work in to do it
[1:17:18]
and we are successful.
[1:17:19]
So thank you for your time.
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I will stand for any questions or I'll just
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be so good that I'll just go.
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>> Allison thank you so much and I think I can speak
[1:17:29]
for the whole commission when I express express appreciation
[1:17:33]
just as you have done to all of the people who enabled us to get
[1:17:37]
these agreements settled in a fair, equitable,
[1:17:42]
and speedy and transparent manner.
[1:17:43]
So thank you.
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Are there any questions?
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Commissioner?
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>> Same.
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I mean this was your first shot come you hit the grand slam.
[1:17:53]
So congratulations.
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My question is if the legislature changes,
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paid family leave or sick save time,
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does that impact contracts?
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>> Yes it certainly can.
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It really depends on what those changes may be.
[1:18:09]
I think we try really hard when we
[1:18:12]
reach agreements on topics like that under state
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leave to leave ourselves enough flexibility where
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if the legislature tweaks a thing or two
[1:18:22]
then we can kind of work it in with the agreement that we have.
[1:18:26]
But there is certainly, I mean in the last 5 to 7 years
[1:18:29]
there has been more legislative changes that affect employers
[1:18:33]
than we have seen in probably 20 years.
[1:18:35]
So, sometimes we have to do supplemental modifications,
[1:18:39]
clarifications, so, it can.
[1:18:42]
It just depends on what it is really.
[1:18:46]
>> Thank you.
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>> Other questions and comments?
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Yes?
[1:18:52]
>> Hi, I just want to thank you.
[1:18:53]
It appears that you have a lot of respect for the labor groups,
[1:18:56]
and that doesn't always happen with every large corporation
[1:19:02]
or whatever.
[1:19:04]
But, coming from a labor job, I just
[1:19:08]
want you to know that it is so appreciated
[1:19:10]
and such a breath of fresh air to have somebody
[1:19:13]
speak in the manner that you do about getting
[1:19:17]
along and listening to the union stewards, it's really admirable.
[1:19:23]
So thank you.
[1:19:26]
>> Thank you.
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>> And again, thank you very much.
[1:19:31]
Thanks to all of your colleagues, and thanks to all
[1:19:34]
of our union partners.
[1:19:35]
Thank you.
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We now turn to the CEO report with Brian.
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So, over to you.
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>> Thank you chair Lawrence, good afternoon commissioners
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Commissioner horn I appreciate what you just said.
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For those of you who don't know Allison
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used to sit on the other side of the table.
[1:19:52]
So I think us being able to obtain her
[1:19:56]
in this role really allows us to progress in a positive way.
[1:20:02]
And she's got the ability to be straightforward, upfront,
[1:20:08]
and generate trust, and that's what it
[1:20:13]
takes to get these things done.
[1:20:15]
But I asked her to come and do this
[1:20:17]
because I really wanted all of you
[1:20:18]
to know how much we appreciate our 13 bargaining
[1:20:25]
units and all that they do.
[1:20:28]
I mean they do first class professional work for us
[1:20:31]
and we are very proud of the things that they accomplish.
[1:20:33]
So thank you for saying that.
[1:20:36]
Relevant to the third public speaker today chief Operating
[1:20:40]
Officer Fuhrman has already spoken with her,
[1:20:44]
so we will work with them to accommodate
[1:20:48]
what we can in that regard.
[1:20:51]
So, hopefully we will take care of that one.
[1:20:55]
The presentation the air service development presentation
[1:20:59]
comm I won't go into any more detail other than to say
[1:21:02]
our top priority is to move those numbers back
[1:21:05]
in a positive direction.
[1:21:08]
And, you know we were more ambitious about where
[1:21:12]
our passenger numbers would be this year
[1:21:14]
and we had the war happened with the spike in fuel prices,
[1:21:19]
airlines cut their capacity.
[1:21:21]
But we are doing okay.
[1:21:23]
June here today as you can see in your report or your packet
[1:21:27]
we are down 1.45%.
[1:21:29]
Year to date we are down about 2.5%.
[1:21:31]
After the first quarter earnings calls
[1:21:33]
that we saw with Delta and other airlines
[1:21:35]
we kind of projected about a 3% decrease.
[1:21:37]
So we are hoping to be a little bit better than that.
[1:21:41]
We are now moving through our busy summer season, June, July,
[1:21:46]
and August.
[1:21:47]
And once sports activities start in schools
[1:21:51]
we start to see that flatten a little bit.
[1:21:53]
So that will begin here, and then
[1:21:56]
we will look forward to the busy October May that weekend
[1:22:01]
and then we get into holidays.
[1:22:03]
So -- we will see where things go as we move forward.
[1:22:11]
You are all advised throughout the last 3 to 4 weeks,
[1:22:14]
and had a couple of events that we have here we
[1:22:16]
call them irregular operations.
[1:22:18]
Because they're not normal by any standpoint.
[1:22:22]
Staff managed through two major events in the past month in July
[1:22:35]
there was some bad conditions in Chicago
[1:22:40]
so we had flights routed to us, talking to folks around here
[1:22:45]
that was the largest amount of diversions
[1:22:47]
that we've had that they ever recall.
[1:22:50]
So, it was a big event.
[1:22:52]
Because many of the diversions were
[1:22:54]
wide body and international flights,
[1:22:58]
the airlines did not have staff that operated here.
[1:23:03]
So, it required extensive coordination by our teams,
[1:23:07]
and I will just say our operations.
[1:23:09]
And Mac teams.
[1:23:11]
They activated our diversion plan,
[1:23:13]
and just did a tremendous amount of coordination
[1:23:16]
with federal partners, other service providers
[1:23:19]
to support these operations without the local equipment
[1:23:24]
that airlines typically have.
[1:23:26]
We assisted with remote parking locations, for aircraft,
[1:23:30]
we assisted with passenger transport for those aircraft.
[1:23:35]
And connecting flight crews, we assisted
[1:23:39]
with fueling operations, obviously and other needs.
[1:23:43]
What you may or may not know, is once an aircraft comes
[1:23:47]
in and sits on the ramp, for domestic three hours,
[1:23:53]
those passengers have to be unloaded.
[1:23:55]
And it's four hours for international flights.
[1:23:57]
So, we also coordinated with CBP to process about 2000 passengers
[1:24:04]
through our customs and border facilities here at.
[1:24:09]
Which, you know, when that happens,
[1:24:12]
it typically happens when the facility is busy to.
[1:24:14]
So there was a lot of movement of aircraft off of gates.
[1:24:17]
And then we had about 200 individuals
[1:24:19]
that ended up spending the night,
[1:24:20]
so we did our best to accommodate them here
[1:24:23]
in the terminal.
[1:24:24]
And then, a second event occurred just maybe a week
[1:24:28]
or week and a half later on August 6th when f a had
[1:24:32]
a regional equipment outage and it triggered a ground stop here
[1:24:39]
at Minneapolis.
[1:24:39]
Something that we don't see very often.
[1:24:42]
Again, our staff initiated the emergency Operations center,
[1:24:48]
we worked closely with the airlines,
[1:24:50]
we stayed in contact with the f a, to really get a handle on it
[1:24:55]
and what could be expected moving forward.
[1:24:58]
Unfortunately it only lasted about two hours,
[1:25:02]
and then we had to accommodate some passengers here again
[1:25:05]
that evening.
[1:25:06]
But again, I think both events impact
[1:25:11]
and highlight our staff here at.
[1:25:14]
When things happen people always ask me,
[1:25:15]
what's the biggest thing at a hub airport?
[1:25:18]
And my answer is when something happens, it happens like that,
[1:25:23]
and there are so many triggering impacts beyond that.
[1:25:27]
Is just a monopoly of things that you have to deal with.
[1:25:29]
But our staff is well trained and did just a fantastic job.
[1:25:34]
So I just wanted to thank them for all that they
[1:25:37]
did in both of those events.
[1:25:39]
Changing topics, on August 4th our airport police department
[1:25:43]
once again hosted a Night to Unite celebration which is
[1:25:49]
our version of National Night Out,
[1:25:51]
the event takes place here in the terminal midday.
[1:25:54]
In the airport mall it brought together about 800 passengers
[1:25:59]
and employees in airport partners
[1:26:01]
to really focus on connections and giving travelers
[1:26:05]
a chance to meet the teams who keep MSP airport safe.
[1:26:10]
Again, thanks to the airport police department
[1:26:13]
and our airport fire department was on hand,
[1:26:16]
we had a number of other partners, TSA, federal air
[1:26:20]
marshals, airport Foundation, and others
[1:26:22]
that really helped that event.
[1:26:24]
Again it's a nice promotional event for passengers.
[1:26:26]
The police department gives out backpacks
[1:26:28]
for kids, that are preparing to go to school in a few weeks.
[1:26:33]
So really a nice event.
[1:26:35]
I also wanted to do a shout out to our airport police department
[1:26:38]
relative to a new milestone.
[1:26:41]
With its new cadet program.
[1:26:44]
Grace Donahue and Savannah Hutchins
[1:26:48]
were the program's inaugural graduates this summer.
[1:26:52]
And both returned to our airport police department
[1:26:55]
as full time officers this month.
[1:26:58]
So they started as cadets, and moved through.
[1:27:01]
They will be sworn into this commission at a future date.
[1:27:05]
The cadet program was launched last year,
[1:27:09]
and what we would hope would build
[1:27:11]
a strong pipeline for our airport police department
[1:27:13]
officers.
[1:27:14]
Both Grace and Savannah shared that the combination
[1:27:18]
of classroom learning and real world airport operations
[1:27:22]
from air traffic direction to airfield security
[1:27:25]
made them more confident and prepared for full time service.
[1:27:30]
We also help pay them for that education
[1:27:33]
as they are going through that cadet program.
[1:27:36]
So I want to thank both airport police department
[1:27:40]
leadership and HR for bringing that program here to MSP.
[1:27:46]
Also, some nice recognition, I don't know,
[1:27:50]
did we send that recognition out to the commissioners?
[1:27:52]
I can't remember if we did or not.
[1:27:55]
But you all probably heard about the devastating fire
[1:27:57]
in Saint Louis Park that damaged 90 units at the helix apartment
[1:28:03]
complex.
[1:28:04]
That fire required a significant response,
[1:28:08]
and our airport fire department was part of that response.
[1:28:12]
The firefighters involved in that it was a very hot day,
[1:28:16]
so heat was an issue.
[1:28:17]
It was challenging conditions.
[1:28:19]
As they were working across multiple agencies.
[1:28:22]
But we received a thank you letter
[1:28:23]
from Mayor Nadia Muhammad and City Manager Kim Keller
[1:28:28]
following the incident.
[1:28:30]
And some of the things they said in their incidents of this scale
[1:28:34]
remind us that no agency responds alone.
[1:28:36]
Your team and others came together seamlessly
[1:28:39]
to protect lives, care for people,
[1:28:41]
and bring that fire under control.
[1:28:43]
Your willingness to answer the call is deeply appreciated.
[1:28:46]
And we are fortunate to work alongside partners
[1:28:49]
who consistently demonstrate professionalism, expertise,
[1:28:52]
and a shared commitment to serving our community.
[1:28:55]
So again I thank you to our airport fire department
[1:28:58]
who answered the call.
[1:28:59]
We are really proud of the relationships that we have,
[1:29:02]
with our fire department and area police departments.
[1:29:07]
And their relationships that have been established
[1:29:10]
to really help support each other
[1:29:12]
because if something happens here,
[1:29:13]
we need them just as much as they need us.
[1:29:17]
Moving to concessions, Elite Cafe
[1:29:21]
is now open at terminal two, that's part of the latest RFP
[1:29:24]
that you approved I guess it was last year.
[1:29:28]
The Italian coffee brand offers a full espresso
[1:29:31]
bar, breakfast items sandwiches and salads and is open 7 a.m.
[1:29:36]
To 8 p.m.
[1:29:36]
Daily and it's nice to have it.
[1:29:38]
It's pre-security so it's nice to have food and beverages
[1:29:42]
Pre-security.
[1:29:42]
There's some upcoming events as we finish off the year.
[1:29:48]
That I just want to report on.
[1:29:51]
Earlier this month the E Experimental Aircraft
[1:29:55]
Association hosted their popular pancake breakfast at Lake Elmo
[1:29:59]
Airport, the Mac will be back at the Minnesota State Fair this
[1:30:03]
year on September 4th as part of MPR day.
[1:30:06]
So it gives us an opportunity to really promote what we do
[1:30:09]
as an organization and all the airports that we own
[1:30:12]
and operate, Girls in Aviation Day will be back at Flying Cloud
[1:30:16]
Airport on September 19th, a very popular event as well.
[1:30:19]
And then, we are working closely with the airport Foundation
[1:30:22]
on the annual state of the airport address,
[1:30:25]
and that will be October 1st, and our keynote will be
[1:30:30]
Allegiant CEO Greg Anderson, so I'll be able to ask him some
[1:30:35]
pointed questions about what Allegiant's plans are here
[1:30:39]
in the future.
[1:30:39]
Can we hope he answers those questions right?
[1:30:42]
But I'm sure he will.
[1:30:44]
So we are looking forward to having --
[1:30:46]
>> I don't think he'll be showing up if he's not ready
[1:30:48]
to answer those questions.
[1:30:51]
>> Yeah.
[1:30:51]
So anyhow, also we received some great news
[1:30:55]
that Tim Simon just reported this morning
[1:30:56]
at our staff meeting.
[1:30:58]
We had a call with the rating agency standard
[1:31:05]
and Fitch a couple of weeks ago I guess it was.
[1:31:09]
Relative to our refinancing of bonds coming up here
[1:31:15]
towards the end of the year.
[1:31:16]
And, the great news is they our bond rating didn't drop at all.
[1:31:27]
It remained the same, and that's great news
[1:31:31]
especially at a time when it's a little bit more
[1:31:34]
of a challenging year.
[1:31:35]
And, the other thing that they mention in here
[1:31:38]
is under their section title Enterprise Risk profile,
[1:31:43]
they've got a few words that I want to read here.
[1:31:46]
It says despite lowering plane mints revenue has experienced
[1:31:50]
more than total rebound in fiscal 2025
[1:31:53]
net revenue was 4.5% above the fiscal 2019 levels
[1:31:57]
which was a record year for US.
[1:31:59]
They say we believe that prudent financial management practices
[1:32:03]
and policies have supported the airport's
[1:32:05]
overall healthy financial performance,
[1:32:07]
and we consider the management team
[1:32:10]
very experienced and effective at running
[1:32:11]
all aspects of the airport.
[1:32:13]
Management invests heavily in employee development,
[1:32:16]
and leadership has been stable over the past several years,
[1:32:18]
most senior leaders have prior experience
[1:32:21]
in state and local government or aviation,
[1:32:23]
and several have worked for the Mac for a decade or more.
[1:32:27]
So congratulations to Tim and his team,
[1:32:29]
along with the entire senior management
[1:32:31]
team for the great work that they do.
[1:32:34]
It does get recognized, and this is very important,
[1:32:36]
because it saves us a lot of money as we issue bonds.
[1:32:40]
And then, the final thing that I have is a shout out
[1:32:44]
to one of our longtime concession partners
[1:32:47]
here at the airport, you all know Frederick Estes,
[1:32:54]
who is in the second generation owner of Estes Enterprises.
[1:32:59]
He was one of nine local leaders inducted into the inaugural
[1:33:04]
Minnesota Black Business Hall of Fame and that happened on August
[1:33:08]
8th.
[1:33:08]
Hall of Fame recognizes entrepreneurs
[1:33:11]
come executives and innovators whose vision and leadership
[1:33:14]
have transformed Minnesota's economy.
[1:33:16]
Estes is a very familiar face here at MSP and after starting
[1:33:22]
as a group of street side gift shops back in Minneapolis,
[1:33:25]
53 years ago the first SSP opened in the late 1980s
[1:33:31]
and today they operate multiple retail locations across MSP
[1:33:36]
and Tampa International Airport offering travelers grab and go
[1:33:40]
snacks gum electronics home souvenirs,
[1:33:42]
specialty retail products, and I know Fred was I think the first
[1:33:48]
one to offer that digital experience where you know,
[1:33:52]
he does have someone standing as you enter into the terminal two
[1:33:57]
location.
[1:33:57]
But, it's all basically a self-serve credit card operation
[1:34:02]
yep so congratulations to Frederick and the full Estes
[1:34:06]
Enterprise team.
[1:34:07]
I think I see Frederick sitting in the back.
[1:34:11]
So Frederick thank you and congratulations to you.
[1:34:19]
[Applause]
[1:34:23]
>> That is my report.
[1:34:24]
A lot of items in there today but there
[1:34:24]
was a lot to report on.
[1:34:25]
>> Questions for Brian?
[1:34:28]
Okay next up on the agenda, thank you Brian.
[1:34:32]
Is my remarks.
[1:34:33]
I don't have any.
[1:34:35]
But if anybody has a remark for me, now's the time.
[1:34:39]
Because we are going to go into a closed session.
[1:34:41]
Then we will come out of it.
[1:34:45]
But, I think anything we should be doing now.
[1:34:50]
So, I need to read from the script.
[1:34:53]
We will now close the meeting to discuss items related
[1:34:57]
to Mac's cybersecurity systems.
[1:35:00]
The open meeting law in Minnesota statute section 13.057
[1:35:05]
D three Parenthese D permits this meeting
[1:35:11]
to be closed to the public because the disclosure
[1:35:13]
of the information discussed would
[1:35:15]
pose a danger to public safety or compromise security
[1:35:19]
procedures or responses.
[1:35:21]
During the closed session, the live video and its recording
[1:35:24]
will be suspended with a note indicating
[1:35:26]
that we are in closed session.
[1:35:28]
The speaker is outside of the commission room
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will be turned off.
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And anyone not necessary for the discussion
[1:35:35]
will be asked to leave.
[1:35:37]
When we return from the closed session,
[1:35:39]
we will reopen the meeting during that time
[1:35:42]
we would take any necessary votes which we will not
[1:35:44]
do during the closed session.
[1:35:46]
So I call now for a motion to close the meeting.
[1:35:53]
>> So moved.
[1:35:54]
>> Second?
[1:35:56]
>> All in favor?
[1:35:59]
Okay.
[1:36:00]
The meeting is closed.
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We are going to pause the feed.
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