[0:15] Good evening everyone.

[0:17] Welcome to

[0:18] Michigan City

[0:19] councils on issues

[0:20] zoning and

[0:20] appeals. Date: 11

[0:22] September 2018. Time:

[0:25] 18:10. And, Mr. New York,

[0:27] please start with

[0:29] personal

[0:29] voting.

[0:33] Mr. Hook

[0:34] present.

[0:38] Mr. Jackson

[0:40] present. Miss Janice

[0:42] present.

[0:43] Mr. Noel

[0:44] present.

[0:46] Mr. Zimmer is absent.

[0:48] Oops. And Mr. Gill

[0:54] missing. We have

[0:58] quorum.

[0:59] Thank you. Thank you

[1:01] to the members of the council. If, uh,

[1:03] no one denies,

[1:04] we will do without

[1:05] reading the rules and

[1:07] meeting procedures and

[1:08] let's go straight to

[1:09] meeting. And if everyone

[1:14] the council members had

[1:15] possibility

[1:16] to get acquainted with

[1:17] protocol

[1:17] last meeting

[1:19] from August 14, I would

[1:20] considered the proposal

[1:21] .

[1:22] So, a suggestion.

[1:23] Second. I have

[1:24] proposal from Mr.

[1:25] Norbella, second from

[1:27] Mr. Hook.

[1:32] Yes.

[1:33] Mr. Jackson,

[1:34] Yes.

[1:35] Miss Janice,

[1:36] Yes.

[1:38] Mr. Mo,

[1:39] Yes.

[1:40] The proposal was approved.

[1:43] Mr. York, if we have

[1:44] there is nothing more,

[1:46] let's go right away

[1:46] let's move on to ours

[1:48] petitions. Our first

[1:53] petition–B-106-18. Bradley

[1:58] Adamsky, lawyer

[1:59] owners

[2:00] Larry's real estate and

[2:01] Joyce Dalton, begging

[2:02] about deviation from

[2:04] building standards,

[2:05] to allow

[2:06] use

[2:06] vacant lot on the East

[2:08] -Barker Avenue,

[2:09] located in

[2:09] residential area, for

[2:11] off-street

[2:11] parking. It

[2:13] continues with

[2:14] August. Good morning

[2:19] p.m. Please,

[2:20] provide your name and

[2:20] address for records. AND

[2:22] Good evening. Me

[2:23] My name is Brad Adamski. I

[2:25] lawyer at the company

[2:26] Drayton Bishi Sugo and Elliot, 820

[2:28] Jefferson Avenue, Leaport, Indiana.

[2:32] And can you

[2:32] tell us about

[2:33] your petition, please

[2:34] affection?

[2:34] Of course. Good morning

[2:36] evening, members

[2:36] rule. Again

[2:37] thank you for your

[2:38] patience for this

[2:39] petitions. We were here.

[2:40] last month and

[2:41] continuing today

[2:42] with the understanding that

[2:43] we are going

[2:44] to meet with

[2:44] city representatives

[2:45] and try

[2:46] to get along with everyone,

[2:47] which I believe we have.

[2:48] Um, this is a two-parter.

[2:50] petition that we

[2:51] actually please

[2:52] to turn into

[2:53] one-part petition

[2:54] . Um, we have two.

[2:56] vacant lots on

[2:57] Barker Avenue. The first of

[2:58] them belongs to me

[3:00] to Larry's clients and

[3:01] Joyce Stalton, who

[3:02] present here in the hall,

[3:04] and the second one, which is

[3:04] the following petition,

[3:06] owned by Sweetwater Indiana LLC

[3:07] , owned by Zak

[3:08] Rinsky also

[3:09] present here. Um, we

[3:11] Please advise.

[3:12] deviation from

[3:13] rules of use,

[3:14] to allow

[3:15] use these

[3:16] two areas as

[3:17] off-street parking

[3:18] in a residential area.

[3:19] First we also

[3:20] submitted a request for

[3:21] deviation from

[3:22] development standards,

[3:23] so that we can

[3:23] use

[3:24] macadam

[3:25] instead of asphalt.

[3:26] Working with the city, we believe that

[3:28] developed a project,

[3:29] which can

[3:29] to meet the city's

[3:30] standards and be

[3:31] approved by the city. It

[3:32] there will be asphalt. So,

[3:34] actually, because we

[3:34] here tonight

[3:35] , discussing the idea

[3:36] cooperation with the city,

[3:37] we withdraw

[3:38] petition regarding

[3:38] deviation from

[3:39] development standards

[3:40] and we just want

[3:41] to advance from

[3:41] deviation from

[3:42] rules of use.

[3:43] So, you are going

[3:44] to make changes to your

[3:45] petitions in the hall to

[3:46] include it in

[3:47] budget.

[3:47] Yes. So, unlike

[3:52] from the petition regarding

[3:53] changes in use

[3:54] and variations and changes

[3:55] development standards,

[3:56] at the moment we just want

[3:58] to advance from

[3:59] petition for change

[4:00] using. Goal

[4:09] parking-

[4:10] serve

[4:14] renovated pub

[4:15] Barker, who is located

[4:17] across the road on

[4:18] Barker Avenue.

[4:20] Because Barker-

[4:20] avenue–narrow street,

[4:22] since the repair

[4:23] restaurant-bar

[4:24] there were problems with

[4:25] parking, and traffic

[4:26] transport

[4:30] improved or started

[4:31] accrue. It

[4:32] led to

[4:33] potential problems

[4:34] security not only because

[4:35] traffic, but also

[4:36] through fire engines,

[4:37] moving upwards and

[4:38] down the road. Ago

[4:39] we are trying

[4:40] reduce this flow,

[4:41] creating

[4:42] off-street parking

[4:43] . I have photos,

[4:44] which I can

[4:45] to present to the council.

[4:46] They are taken from the web

[4:47] the district website, on which

[4:48] these two are shown

[4:49] empty areas in

[4:50] different times, starting

[4:51] since 2008. On each of

[4:52] these photos you will see cars,

[4:54] parked on

[4:55] herbal

[4:55] directly on the platforms

[4:56] now. And this is what

[4:57] is happening. And we don't

[4:58] we can, that is, as long as it

[4:59] works now, it's not

[5:00] may continue.

[5:01] Hmm, obviously these

[5:02] Lawns are not for this.

[5:03] were appointed. They kill the grass. They

[5:05] compact the soil. It

[5:07] not ideal for

[5:08] parking outside

[5:08] street. So we have

[5:10] a plan that I believe

[5:11] was distributed

[5:12] among the council. If not,

[5:13] then I have other ones of his

[5:15] copies. And we have Ryan.

[5:17] Laughlin of Hass and Associates,

[5:18] who developed this

[5:19] plan, if the council has one

[5:20] some specific ones

[5:22] question about what

[5:23] we want to make with

[5:24] improved parking

[5:26] . So, first of all, with the permission of the council, I will give away these photos.

[5:32] here.

[5:46] Well, Larry and Joyce

[5:47] complained, but they

[5:48] did not complain.

[5:51] Oh, okay. Now Larry

[6:01] and Joyce is here,

[6:02] about three rows

[6:03] behind, but one of

[6:04] their concerns

[6:05] is that

[6:06] they own

[6:07] business at

[6:08] 602 East Barker Avenue.

[6:10] Um, and you'll see on

[6:11] photographs,

[6:12] it is obvious that part

[6:13] parking spaces

[6:14] was there for them

[6:15] business, but with

[6:16] improved

[6:17] asphalted

[6:18] parking is also

[6:19] will help their

[6:20] business. So, for the sake of

[6:30] the public, which

[6:32] is present here, and, in

[6:33] the first time I used to

[6:34] asked whether

[6:35] most of these people

[6:36] support the later

[6:37] petition, and all of them

[6:38] raised their hands, I'm fighting

[6:40] institution.

[6:43] I've been to such places before.

[6:44] large halls, but

[6:45] absolutely...Yes. But,

[6:48] Um, I know what's here.

[6:49] people who supported

[6:51] your petition. Simply

[6:53] tell us orally,

[6:54] what should they expect or

[6:56] What do you expect?

[6:58] so that we can, um,

[6:59] and I keep everyone in

[7:00] course.

[7:01] And I don't know, me too

[7:02] shared with some

[7:03] neighbors who are here

[7:04] present, drawing,

[7:05] which you have before

[7:06] yourself.

[7:07] Um, but mostly,

[7:08] what we want

[7:09] to do, this

[7:11] to pave, I think two are empty.

[7:15] plots on this

[7:16] stage. There will be a new one

[7:17] a curb that will come out on

[7:19] Barker Avenue. Um, this is

[7:21] at the request of the city.

[7:24] There will be a fence there, which

[7:26] will pass along,

[7:27] hmm, Dalton's sides,

[7:28] then along

[7:29] alley, and then

[7:30] down along the other

[7:31] side of the plot. So

[7:33] the plot actually

[7:35] will be fenced.

[7:36] One of the concerns

[7:37] some neighbors

[7:38] last time it was that people either through

[7:40] too intense

[7:41] traffic movement. Now

[7:42] the only way there is

[7:43] across the alley, and this one

[7:44] the lane is not

[7:45] intended for

[7:45] this type of movement.

[7:46] In addition, people

[7:47] parked behind

[7:48] houses, walked around

[7:49] their yards,

[7:50] cut through the parking lot.

[7:51] This will soften

[7:52] situation. One more thing

[7:53] the concern is

[7:54] in that although these

[7:55] plots

[7:55] were used

[7:56] for parking

[7:57] for many

[7:58] years, their number

[7:59] was not like that. So, with

[8:00] so many

[8:01] cars, land

[8:02] compacted, and now

[8:04] there are problems with the drain

[8:05] and water. And even

[8:06] recently, of course,

[8:07] due to heavy rains on

[8:08] weekend, arose

[8:09] significant problems with

[8:11] water on some

[8:11] areas. The idea of this

[8:13] improved zone

[8:14] provides in each

[8:15] corner of greenery

[8:16] plantations that

[8:17] will be used

[8:18] for the drain, but also

[8:19] necessary

[8:20] to meet the city's

[8:21] building standards

[8:22] plots. It is obvious that

[8:24] Skyler's department

[8:25] will conduct an inspection,

[8:26] to make sure of

[8:27] proper planning

[8:28] , proper drainage.

[8:29] So, I hope this

[8:30] will ease the problem,

[8:32] which we just saw

[8:33] on weekends. And I think

[8:36] , considering that

[8:37] current project, there

[8:39] will be added in total 21

[8:40] parking space.

[8:42] So this is, you know, on the 21st

[8:43] vehicle

[8:44] less parking

[8:46] along Barker Avenue

[8:47] and loads the street

[8:48] or parked in front of

[8:50] houses in

[8:50] residential area. Or

[8:56] Is there anything else, sir? Besides

[8:58] opportunities

[8:58] to answer any

[8:59] what objections and more

[9:00] to remind you once,

[9:01] that we have an engineer here

[9:02] , in case you have

[9:03] advice will arise

[9:04] specific questions

[9:05] regarding the project.

[9:06] Mr. York, can you have something to add from

[9:07] about this, because I know you have been working.

[9:09] side by side with this.

[9:10] Yes, we are working on it.

[9:11] this has been going on for some time. Ahem

[9:12] , it seems that this is already

[9:13] third or fourth,

[9:14] maybe the fifth

[9:15] the picture that we

[9:16] saw. Hmm, so, hmm,

[9:17] we went from two

[9:19] curb cuts to

[9:20] one that, in my opinion, good. Um, I think that some of

[9:25] main concerns

[9:26] that I heard, for example,

[9:27] talking to

[9:28] some monsters,

[9:29] who visited me,

[9:30] um, literally

[9:31] came to my house

[9:32] office, were connected

[9:33] with people who

[9:33] passed by, and

[9:34] they were very

[9:35] concerned about children on

[9:36] alley. Um, so

[9:37] At first we thought,

[9:38] what makes sense to remove

[9:39] things from this alley

[9:41] , but looking back when we

[9:42] went there,

[9:43] saw this

[9:44] alley, visited

[9:45] neighbors and talked

[9:46] with them when they

[9:47] came in, I think that

[9:48] much smarter

[9:49] just block

[9:50] its. Do not allow

[9:51] access. Um, and

[9:52] potentially if people

[9:53] will know that more

[9:54] can't go there

[9:55] pass, they do not

[9:56] will park at

[9:57] streets and not

[9:57] will walk through the yards

[9:58] people. I think that

[9:59] they probably

[10:00] will walk on the sidewalk. We make them go

[10:02] the sidewalk, in fact,

[10:04] where they should be. Hmm, that slice

[10:08] the curb that you see. So, essentially,

[10:11] What will happen is this,

[10:12] that since this

[10:13] double parking, we

[10:15] merged two into one,

[10:16] and we will place it

[10:17] about 7.5

[10:18] meters behind, so that

[10:20] to prohibit

[10:20] parking, to

[10:21] the inspection triangle was

[10:23] protected. So

[10:25] practically before this

[10:26] You don't have parking.

[10:28] there will be room for

[10:28] parking. This will be

[10:31] a clear overview of this

[10:32] parking. So people don't

[10:34] will run out under

[10:35] machinery. Now the cars

[10:37] parked along

[10:38] her. If they

[10:41] parked here,

[10:42] they go between

[10:43] machines that

[10:43] actually there is more dangerous

[10:45] situation, because, hmm

[10:47] , people don't travel much

[10:48] quickly, but with

[10:49] at a decent speed

[10:50] , and it's quite cramped there.

[10:52] So you don't see them,

[10:54] until they are gone

[10:55] will leave. So, I think,

[10:57] this will solve a lot

[10:58] problems. And, as I already

[10:59] said, we discussed

[11:01] several projects,

[11:02] drawings, sketches

[11:03] etc. So, from the point of

[11:06] in terms of planning, we

[11:07] relatively satisfied

[11:09] hereby. Hmm, I think that's it.

[11:11] will reduce congestion and

[11:12] some problems with

[11:13] parking. And I think that, um, we have

[11:17] there are still some

[11:18] opportunities for

[11:19] green areas and,

[11:20] you know, aesthetic

[11:21] things. But to me

[11:23] I like the fence.

[11:25] and the buffer between

[11:25] houses and protection,

[11:27] which she offers

[11:28] to these people. Lanterns in

[11:29] their front

[11:30] window, lights in

[11:32] window, etc. By the way

[11:33] about lighting, um, or

[11:35] there will be lights on this

[11:36] parking lot?

[11:39] I don't think there is now.

[11:40] some design, and I don't

[11:41] I think there are some

[11:42] fires, but apparently

[11:43] it will be

[11:44] designed by

[11:45] standards.

[11:45] We are engaged in

[11:46] lighting. Um, we,

[11:48] probably we will,

[11:49] because it is residential

[11:50] area. I mean,

[11:51] that I don't want this

[11:53] it was like that, I don't want to disturb the neighbors

[11:55] here. So, it probably has

[11:57] to be somewhat weak

[11:58] lighting. Um, that is,

[11:59] there are standards that

[12:00] set out in our

[12:01] zoning code

[12:02] , for example, what is this

[12:03] foot candelabra,

[12:04] lumens, etc. Um, and

[12:05] the height of these elements

[12:06] and their shielding,

[12:07] so that they were

[12:08] shielded so as not to

[12:09] overflow. Hmm, we have

[12:11] These standards already exist.

[12:13] I think there is

[12:14] balance between security,

[12:15] obviously parking lots

[12:16] and so that it doesn't

[12:17] to insult the neighbors

[12:18] houses.

[12:18] Absolutely.

[12:19] Very good.

[12:22] Board members, there are more

[12:24] any questions?

[12:26] Question? Thank you, sir.

[12:30] Friends, on this day

[12:31] the moment we are going

[12:32] open this for

[12:33] public

[12:33] discussion.

[12:34] Public

[12:35] discussion of this

[12:36] petitions. Is there anyone

[12:37] who wants to come forward

[12:38] and express publicly

[12:39] discussion?

[12:41] Come to

[12:42] microphone.

[12:50] I need yours.

[12:51] name and address for

[12:52] recording, please.

[12:53] Good. I'm Matthew Payne. I live at Beld-

[12:56] Street, 607. It's right behind

[12:58] the area where it stands

[12:59] my house. I saw

[13:00] a copy of this, and I think

[13:01] that's pretty good

[13:02] picture. It seems that

[13:03] It will be beautiful there. Now

[13:05] me the most

[13:06] worries about entering and leaving

[13:07] my driveway

[13:08] . My lane is

[13:09] shared lane with

[13:10] neighbors or shared

[13:11] driveway from

[13:12] neighbors, and she is like that

[13:13] cramped. Therefore, when

[13:14] I am leaving in the back.

[13:15] I sometimes

[13:16] I'm stopping by.

[13:17] area approximately

[13:18] per foot, maybe two, and

[13:19] Yes. So, you are not

[13:20] Do you want to crash into

[13:21] fence.

[13:22] Good.

[13:23] Yes. Where there is a fence,

[13:24] he will be right on

[13:25] alley. It seems...So,

[13:26] hmm, I'm worried about that

[13:27] I will have to go in reverse

[13:29] or it will be difficult for me

[13:30] to enter and leave,

[13:31] or, you know, my garage

[13:32] is directly

[13:33] there, in the alley.

[13:34] Someone is coming in, they

[13:35] will not be able to enter and

[13:35] to go out, crash into

[13:36] my car, maybe

[13:37] bump into someone

[13:38] another.

[13:38] So, you don't necessarily

[13:39] against that

[13:40] offered

[13:40] tonight,

[13:41] if we can

[13:42] do it where you are

[13:43] You can come by.

[13:43] Looks like

[13:44] good. Looks better

[13:45] than now, because you know what a flood is,

[13:48] and I think it will be

[13:48] a big improvement,

[13:49] if drainage

[13:50] will work properly

[13:51] in a way.

[13:51] Good. And, uh, a fence

[13:52] will work. I have on

[13:54] mind you, I want

[13:54] put a fence there.

[13:55] To protect yourself,

[13:56] you know, so

[13:56] to provide for oneself

[13:57] some protection. But

[13:58] if we can, I

[13:59] sure that

[14:00] engineer...I

[14:00] I hope he/she

[14:02] is right in doing

[14:03] some notes. Um,

[14:05] I guarantee you that

[14:07] now we probably

[14:08] can we move this

[14:09] fence back to

[14:10] what you need

[14:11] radius. To us

[14:12] will have to do this

[14:12] to consider, but if

[14:13] you don't mind

[14:13] using...

[14:14] guess if you

[14:15] not against

[14:15] use...in

[14:16] basically what to do,

[14:17] if you install it

[14:18] the way it is. I am not

[14:19] against use.

[14:20] It looks like it will be good.

[14:22] You will know what I am for.

[14:23] ...I'm all for business and that's it

[14:24] like this. But as

[14:25] only, you know,

[14:26] drainage and all that

[14:27] it will be fine, and we don't have

[14:29] there will be floods, everything

[14:30] It will be fine.

[14:31] Um, maybe Ryan could

[14:32] I would like to tell you a little bit.

[14:34] about drainage, plan

[14:35] drainage. I don't know.

[14:37] Just give it to us

[14:38] approximately how

[14:39] usually works

[14:39] drainage in parking lots

[14:41] for these people. That

[14:43] they had a certain

[14:44] confidence. I am not

[14:45] I don't know if this is normal.

[14:46] Give us a minute,

[14:48] and we'll see if

[14:49] there will be more people.

[14:50] Thus, you do not

[14:50] will have to do

[14:51] two or three trips.

[14:52] What is your address? 67.

[14:56] And we will check it out.

[14:57] for the radius

[14:58] turning.

[14:59] Make sure that the

[14:59] you have enough space,

[15:00] to get out of there

[15:01] in reverse.

[15:01] Fortunately, I am in control.

[15:02] a large truck.

[15:03] I don't drive a little.

[15:03] tiny.

[15:04] This is normal. All

[15:05] OK. Good.

[15:06] Thank you, Mr. Pei.

[15:08] Thank you.

[15:08] Public discussion

[15:10] . Does anyone else want

[15:11] make public

[15:12] discussion of this

[15:13] petitions? Public

[15:14] discussion.

[15:16] Last call for

[15:17] public

[15:18] discussion.

[15:20] is now closed. Your

[15:23] name and address for

[15:25] records, please. THERE ARE

[15:27] -uh, Ryan Laughlin, uh,

[15:28] 622 Franklin Street.

[15:29] Um, although this

[15:30] preliminary plan, we

[15:32] didn't spend, we didn't

[15:33] investigated and not

[15:34] made a detailed, uh,

[15:36] evaluations or

[15:36] designing or

[15:38] something for drainage.

[15:39] But I can say that

[15:40] , uh, at least

[15:41] it seems preliminary,

[15:43] that this territory

[15:44] mostly sandy, and

[15:45] should be relatively

[15:46] easy to soak

[15:47] part of this runoff,

[15:49] uh, from the parking lot,

[15:50] you know, new

[15:50] impenetrable zone, in

[15:52] part of this soil.

[15:54] Uh, but without

[15:54] additional

[15:55] I couldn't find the information.

[15:56] would say this

[15:57] definitely. Hmm, but

[15:59] you know, usually with

[16:00] such an area of water

[16:01] merges, um, into

[16:02] some local

[16:03] inlets on

[16:04] streets, um, leaf

[16:06] drainage, um, and for

[16:07] necessary, um,

[16:08] may be needed

[16:09] have some intakes

[16:10] holes in some

[16:11] sewer

[16:12] pipes, but it will be

[16:14] necessary, we also

[16:15] could save

[16:16] some probably in these

[16:17] green areas,

[16:18] for example, reduce

[16:20] or something like that,

[16:21] to supplement. I think that beforehand

[16:23] it is definitely possible. Yes.

[16:26] And we'll look at this,

[16:27] when will we get it, when

[16:28] you will do

[16:29] calculations and everything

[16:30] other. So

[16:31] Thank you, sir.

[16:32] Ahem.

[16:38] Okay, Mr. York.

[16:40] Can we go?

[16:41] to, um, reports? This is a report

[16:48] on petition B-106-18. Ahem,

[16:55] and this is, um, Larry and

[16:56] Joyce Dalton is

[16:57] petitioners, whom

[16:58] represents Mr.

[17:00] Adamski. Ahem,

[17:00] Department of Water

[17:02] resources, Randy

[17:03] Russell, Chief, no

[17:04] has objections. Ahem,

[17:05] Arbor-Hi, um, he's not

[17:06] has objections to this

[17:08] time. Um, fire department

[17:10] service, there are none

[17:11] problems with the petition.

[17:13] Uh, department

[17:14] planning, in the petition

[17:15] the applicant wishes

[17:16] to obtain permission for

[17:17] use, which

[17:18] will allow

[17:18] use

[17:19] free area under

[17:20] residential area for

[17:21] parking, as well as

[17:22] building standard,

[17:23] which will not allow

[17:24] to pave the area, and

[17:25] use

[17:26] gravel, which, like you,

[17:27] maybe you remember,

[17:28] they corrected it

[17:29] floor. So we

[17:30] not tonight

[17:31] we are considering this

[17:32] question. Gravel will be

[17:33] paved. Requirements

[17:35] resolutions on

[17:36] zoning.

[17:37] Real estate is zoned

[17:38] as a one-room apartment

[17:39] residential development R1D.

[17:40] Resolution table

[17:41] about zoning 04.02 02,

[17:43] allowed species

[17:44] use for R1D,

[17:45] do not allow

[17:46] requested

[17:46] using.

[17:47] The applicant proposes

[17:48] use

[17:49] real estate for

[17:50] new parking lot

[17:51] playground. Uh, in

[17:51] I am not here.

[17:52] additional

[17:53] comments on this.

[17:55] Therefore, the proposed

[17:56] conclusions. Standards

[17:58] regarding deviation from

[17:59] using

[18:00] are set out below

[18:01] italics and

[18:02] are in

[18:03] section 28.11

[18:03] subdivision A

[18:04] resolutions on

[18:05] zoning. They also

[18:07] contain

[18:07] proposed

[18:08] department's conclusions. On-

[18:09] first, approval is not

[18:11] will cause harm

[18:11] public

[18:12] health, safety,

[18:13] morality and general

[18:14] community well-being.

[18:16] Suggested

[18:16] planning minimizes

[18:18] environmental impact

[18:19] use, as well as

[18:20] will not cause harm

[18:21] public health

[18:22] through the park, because

[18:23] parking

[18:24] will answer all

[18:25] standards and norms.

[18:27] Second,

[18:28] use and

[18:29] the value of the territory,

[18:30] adjacent to

[18:31] property included

[18:32] to the deviation, not

[18:33] undergo significant

[18:34] negative impact

[18:35] because the new

[18:36] parking lot

[18:37] the playground will be

[18:38] built as

[18:39] real parking lot, and

[18:40] not left as

[18:41] an empty lawn that

[18:42] used,

[18:43] for example, like

[18:44] illegal parking

[18:45] . This will also allow

[18:47] to make things easier

[18:48] street parking

[18:49] and create much

[18:50] safer conditions

[18:51] along Barker-Barker

[18:52] in this place.

[18:53] Availability of proper

[18:54] fenced in

[18:55] and landscaped

[18:56] parking lot

[18:56] the site will not be affected

[18:57] negatively on

[18:58] cost

[18:59] surrounding

[18:59] property. Thirdly,

[19:02] necessity

[19:02] deviation from

[19:03] use occurs

[19:04] because of certain

[19:05] features

[19:06] relevant

[19:06] property.

[19:07] The peculiarity is

[19:08] in that the property

[19:09] is associated with very

[19:10] successful business,

[19:11] located across

[19:13] road. The need for

[19:14] parking has increased

[19:15] thanks to success

[19:16] business that

[19:16] is there

[19:17] for many

[19:18] years. Success created

[19:20] dangerous situation

[19:21] with parking along

[19:22] Barker-A and growing

[19:23] concern about

[19:25] security. This will make it easier

[19:26] some problems with

[19:27] parking along

[19:28] Barker-A and surrounding areas

[19:29] residential areas.

[19:30] Number four, strict

[19:32] application of conditions

[19:33] resolutions on

[19:34] zoning will lead

[19:35] to unnecessary

[19:36] difficulties, if any

[19:37] apply to

[19:38] property for which

[19:39] requested

[19:40] deviation.

[19:41] Approval is not

[19:42] will allow the owner

[19:43] use

[19:44] property as

[19:45] parking and

[19:46] will offer

[19:46] relief for Barker A

[19:47] and the district by

[19:48] consolidation

[19:49] parking.

[19:54] Use also

[19:55] will allow business,

[19:56] who serves

[19:57] parking, stay

[19:58] functional and

[19:59] minimize the impact

[20:00] to the district. Number five,

[20:06] approval substantially

[20:07] does not interfere in

[20:08] comprehensive plan

[20:09] buildings, because

[20:10] the plan provides for

[20:11] promotion

[20:11] commercial

[20:12] development and

[20:13] support for existing

[20:14] districts and the existing

[20:15] population.

[20:16] Recommendation.

[20:17] Department

[20:18] will recommend

[20:19] approval

[20:20] deviation from

[20:21] use, register

[20:22] B. Registry number B-106-18.

[20:24] Sorry, I had this.

[20:25] to fix. 17 is 18 for

[20:27] such conditions.

[20:29] Final project,

[20:29] planning,

[20:30] landscape design

[20:31] and lighting

[20:32] are subject to

[20:32] standards of the resolution

[20:33] about zoning and

[20:34] final

[20:35] approval

[20:35] staff with

[20:36] planning for

[20:36] beginning of construction.

[20:38] And number two, the project

[20:38] parking has

[20:39] stay

[20:40] asphalted and not

[20:41] use

[20:42] gravel. Thank you, sir.

[20:45] York. Board members

[20:47] , is there any further

[20:48] discussion of the petition?

[20:50] Any further

[20:51] discussion or

[20:52] offer? Is there

[20:53] proposal regarding this

[20:54] petitions? I would like to make a proposal

[21:01] about us

[21:02] adopted conclusions

[21:03] about the facts, uh,

[21:04] various reports, about

[21:06] what this petition has

[21:07] to be approved together with

[21:11] recommendations.

[21:14] Mr. Norville,

[21:15] when will you do it, or

[21:16] Can you please specify that?

[21:17] this is an amended petition,

[21:18] because she

[21:19] actually changed from

[21:20] amendments,

[21:20] made from gravel.

[21:21] Yes.

[21:22] Good.

[21:23] So, I have

[21:24] proposal from Mr.

[21:25] Norala. Second.

[21:26] I will support.

[21:27] The second one is from Mr. Hook.

[21:30] Mr. York. Mr. Hook.

[21:31] Yes. Sir

[21:33] Jackson.

[21:34] Yes. Miss Janice. Yes.

[21:36] Mr. Noville.

[21:37] Yes.

[21:38] The proposal was approved.

[21:44] Mr. York. Petition B

[21:46] 107-18, which was the second

[21:47] half of this, is there

[21:49] she is now a petition

[21:50] about debt, is it

[21:51] will also be

[21:52] to be considered in that

[21:54] the part that

[21:55] we must also

[21:56] hear, and we

[21:57] need

[21:57] vote for her

[21:58] separately, because it

[22:00] two separate parcels. THERE ARE-

[22:01] uh, but would you like to,

[22:02] uh, Mr. Gill said

[22:03] I want to ask you whether

[22:04] would you like to do

[22:06] instead of

[22:07] to do the same

[22:07] presentation, or

[22:08] Would you like to enter this?

[22:10] presentation to

[22:10] protocol as yours

[22:11] presentation?

[22:12] Yes, including

[22:13] amended petition or

[22:14] amendment to the petition

[22:15] about what we

[22:16] withdraw the request for

[22:17] deviation from

[22:18] development standards.

[22:19] Absolutely.

[22:20] Very good.

[22:21] Therefore,

[22:22] board members, there are

[22:23] any questions?

[22:24] So, I think we should

[22:25] still needed

[22:26] to hold public

[22:27] hearing, etc., etc.

[22:28] Thank you. Public

[22:31] discussion.

[22:34] . As before,

[22:35] only better.

[22:36] Public discussion

[22:37] . Last call for

[22:39] public

[22:40] discussion.

[22:42] closed. Mr. York,

[22:45] I'm actually going to read the same ones, uh,

[22:48] facts, conclusions and

[22:49] include them in

[22:51] main points.

[22:52] Uh, yes, I can. Thank you

[22:55] for the question. Uh, this is

[22:57] Applicant report B-

[22:59] 10718, uh, Sweetwater LLC. Uh,

[23:02] this is about the deviation

[23:03] from standards

[23:04] using. Uh, this is

[23:06] essentially the same facts,

[23:07] that were included in

[23:08] protocol of the past

[23:10] once. Absolutely so

[23:12] themselves. Uh, and I would just

[23:13] asked that

[23:14] recommendation...I

[23:15] just read

[23:16] recommendation. AND

[23:17] the recommendation is

[23:19] in order for us to

[23:20] approved, um,

[23:21] requested change in

[23:23] used for 107-18,

[23:25] um, B-107-18 under these conditions

[23:28] . Final design

[23:29] plots, planning,

[23:30] landscape design

[23:31] and lighting

[23:32] must comply

[23:32] zoning standards

[23:33] and be final

[23:34] approved

[23:35] staff with

[23:35] planning for

[23:36] beginning of construction.

[23:37] And secondly, design

[23:38] parking has

[23:39] remain

[23:39] asphalted and not

[23:40] use

[23:41] gravel. And, um, if you

[23:43] decide to contribute

[23:44] petition for

[23:45] approval, please

[23:46] , um, make sure,

[23:47] that you added the modified one,

[23:49] um petition to your

[23:50] suggestions.

[23:51] Okay, members.

[23:52] board, is there any

[23:53] discussion of this

[23:54] petitions? Is there any

[23:56] discussion whether there is

[23:57] petition regarding this

[23:58] petitions? I would like to file a petition

[24:05] on approval B 107-18

[24:06] together with

[24:07] recommendations U and

[24:08] amendments. I support this.

[24:13] I have a request.

[24:14] from Mr. Norell,

[24:15] the second from Miss Janice,

[24:18] Mr. York,

[24:20] Mr. Hook,

[24:20] Yes.

[24:22] Mr. Jackson,

[24:23] Yes.

[24:24] Miss Janice,

[24:25] Yes.

[24:26] Mr. Novo,

[24:27] Yes.

[24:27] The request is approved.

[24:33] Thank you,

[24:37] Mr. York. Everything is fine.

[25:08] Mr. York, our

[25:09] the next petition that

[25:10] I would like to submit, this is B

[25:12] 112-18.

[25:14] Good. Uh, this is a petition

[25:17] B-12-18. Um, Michael Connor

[25:19] asks to provide

[25:20] special right to

[25:21] using

[25:22] Big B Coffee coffee shops,

[25:23] located behind

[25:24] address Franklin-

[25:25] Street, 3401.

[25:26] Is there anyone here who

[25:27] can come up with this

[25:28] petition?

[25:29] He will be represented by

[25:30] er, Mr. Connor himself.

[25:31] Good,

[25:39] Sir, please

[25:40] enter your name and

[25:42] address for recording.

[25:43] Michael Connor, Tryon-

[25:45] Road, 11:30, Michigan-

[25:47] City, Indiana. I, uh,

[25:49] here tonight,

[25:51] to discuss

[25:52] real estate in

[25:53] Michigan City on

[25:54] Franklin Street,

[25:56] known as Franklin-

[25:57] Street, 3401. This is an old, uh-

[25:59] e, commercial building

[26:01] . Uh, she is

[26:03] used in

[26:05] for several different purposes

[26:06] for probably 40

[26:07] or 50 years. The main

[26:11] was used

[26:13] or a car repair shop, THERE ARE-

[26:18] Well, the building was

[26:19] purchased for the purpose of

[26:20] is called

[26:21] adaptive repeat

[26:22] using. Therefore,

[26:24] What is adaptive?

[26:25] repeated

[26:25] using? Ahem,

[26:28] adaptive evolution

[26:29] repeated

[26:30] use is

[26:31] in order to find

[26:32] purpose for

[26:33] buildings,

[26:34] the use of which

[26:35] now obsolete.

[26:37] Right? It was

[26:38] thriving business

[26:39] for a while. Someone

[26:40] many years

[26:41] was engaged in repairs

[26:42] cars there. Um,

[26:44] bought a building and, uh,

[26:45] appointed her for

[26:46] retail trade,

[26:47] which could be

[26:48] transfer to this

[26:49] plot, instead of

[26:50] car repair shops,

[26:51] auto repair shops or

[26:52] auto repair shop, which

[26:53] historically was

[26:54] quite unattractive

[26:55] place in this area

[26:57] Franklin Street. So

[27:01] , uh, we went to the market,

[27:02] placed

[27:03] announcement and, uh,

[27:04] received a lot

[27:05] various requests, none

[27:06] of which was not interesting

[27:07] for owners, right?

[27:09] Yes? To us

[27:10] called

[27:11] very wealthy

[27:12] evacuation companies

[27:13] from Gary, Indiana,

[27:14] who wanted

[27:14] use this

[27:16] place, uh, like a place for

[27:17] conducting AAA, and we have

[27:18] there would be cars there

[27:19] , and we would have there

[27:20] tow trucks, and they

[27:21] were ready

[27:22] pay enough

[27:23] a decent amount

[27:24] money for this

[27:24] rooms. Um, us too

[27:26] refused them, and we

[27:27] waited, and we waited, uh,

[27:29] and we kissed a lot

[27:30] frogs, until they are found

[27:31] right for him

[27:32] using,

[27:33] the right tenant

[27:34] . So we held on

[27:36] it. Um, made some

[27:38] improvement. If

[27:40] let me give it away

[27:41] you a photo

[27:42] buildings. So now

[28:09] you should be

[28:09] of course. What is this?

[28:11] building, right? Therefore,

[28:15] about 9 or 10

[28:16] months ago

[28:17] franchise

[28:18] a company from Michigan,

[28:19] uh, started

[28:20] negotiations with us

[28:21] through your broker with

[28:22] Lansing, State

[28:23] Michigan, regarding

[28:24] franchising,

[28:25] retail

[28:26] use of this

[28:27] real estate. AND

[28:30] the reason why they do this

[28:31] attracted, was like that

[28:33] well, like me, was lying

[28:34] in that I wanted to

[28:35] someone from retail

[28:36] trade came to this

[28:38] building, so that

[28:38] use

[28:39] garage door how

[28:40] part of your

[28:41] retail business.

[28:42] Of course they would have

[28:43] men's door, so

[28:44] to get inside,

[28:46] but they

[28:46] would use

[28:47] brand new

[28:48] commercial garages

[28:49] gate for

[28:49] retail trade

[28:50] on your side

[28:51] buildings, that is, from

[28:52] left side of the building,

[28:53] Where do you see that?

[28:54] piece of meat

[28:55] windows. They

[28:56] would use, uh-

[28:57] e, modernized

[28:58] garage doors for

[28:59] commercial

[29:00] uses that

[29:01] would rise and

[29:02] dropped in the summer, and

[29:03] in winter, of course,

[29:05] were falling. And they

[29:07] would use this

[29:08] like, uh, retail

[29:09] business. And the tenant is

[29:13] Big B Coffee. Big B Coffee is

[29:14] retailer

[29:16] from Lansing. They have 300

[29:17] coffee shops all over

[29:18] country, one of

[29:19] fastest growing

[29:20] franchise

[29:21] coffee shop, which

[29:22] tries

[29:23] compete with Starbucks.

[29:25] Uh, located in

[29:26] Lansing. So, uh,

[29:29] their broker started

[29:31] talk to us, and

[29:32] then we agreed, uh-

[29:33] uh, start

[29:34] negotiations with them and

[29:35] started what I told you

[29:37] I'll tell you now, and

[29:38] it is the repair of this

[29:39] real estate within the framework

[29:40] our negotiations with...

[30:06] So, we concluded the letter

[30:07] about intentions, uh, ah

[30:08] then, finally,

[30:09] rental agreement with Bigby,

[30:11] and, uh, they were trying, uh,

[30:12] in a few

[30:13] negotiations with the city,

[30:15] uh, about that, for

[30:16] Why are we here today?

[30:17] in the evening, namely, uh,

[30:19] Bigby wouldn't sign

[30:20] rental agreement for

[30:21] location in Michigan-

[30:23] Cities without a drive-thru. Through

[30:27] a few repetitions, uh,

[30:28] drive-thru concepts with

[30:30] Craig and the

[30:30] Skyler, we've arrived.

[30:32] agreement that you have in front of you

[30:34] now about the drive-thru. Uh,

[30:38] they signed a 15-year

[30:39] rental agreement for this

[30:41] real estate. They

[30:43] will occupy the left

[30:44] part of the plot. Them

[30:46] was needed

[30:47] three-phase

[30:48] wiring,

[30:49] which was not in place,

[30:50] and what Nipkco is now

[30:51] brought to the site.

[30:53] They did it, uh,

[30:54] based on a 15-year

[30:55] rental agreement for

[30:56] modernization

[30:57] power grid in

[30:58] buildings. And, uh, Big B, we

[31:02] requested, uh, permission

[31:03] from the state of Indiana to

[31:05] use of this

[31:06] real estate for

[31:07] commercial purposes and

[31:08] for retail

[31:09] trade on this

[31:10] area. This is permission.

[31:12] for design, or

[31:14] right, Skyler? It

[31:15] is called permission

[31:16] for design. IN

[31:17] we have permission to

[31:17] design from

[31:18] of the state of Indiana, which

[31:19] approves of this place for

[31:21] retail trade.

[31:23] Uh, Big B later

[31:24] received permission from

[31:25] Michigan City and

[31:27] started his work

[31:28] on the site, which are

[31:29] large-scale. Their, uh

[31:32] , part of the work on

[31:33] buildings, uh, for

[31:34] construction only

[31:35] half of this

[31:37] buildings, probably

[31:38] will exceed the pair

[31:39] hundreds of thousands, only

[31:40] for internal

[31:41] repair of the site. It

[31:43] not taking into account that

[31:44] will be done on

[31:45] external side

[31:46] buildings. So, this is, uh,

[31:48] our proposal, which

[31:49] you are considering

[31:50] today. uh, this is

[31:52] adaptive repeat

[31:53] using one

[31:54] from buildings,

[31:54] the use of which

[31:55] became obsolete.

[31:57] The goal is not to

[31:58] in order to demolish

[31:59] buildings, but in order to

[32:00] try to find

[32:01] more intelligent

[32:02] repeated

[32:03] using the old one

[32:04] buildings. And that was it.

[32:06] perfect combination

[32:07] between retail

[32:08] the seller who

[32:09] Got it, uh, place

[32:10] for selling coffee here.

[32:12] In my opinion, they

[32:13] ideally located

[32:14] between Lakeshore Coffee, which

[32:15] is located on

[32:15] Fourth Street,

[32:16] Fourth or Fifth

[32:18] streets, and Starbucks in

[32:19] southern part

[32:20] cities. I think that this

[32:21] will serve

[32:22] many residents in

[32:23] downtown Michigan City,

[32:24] who don't want to drive

[32:25] all the way to the south

[32:26] parts or go to

[32:27] Lakeshore Coffee. I think that

[32:29] it's great from them

[32:31] side, and we are glad to see

[32:32] their tenants in

[32:33] Michigan City. I am from

[32:36] I will be happy to answer.

[32:37] any questions.

[32:39] Thank you, sir. Members

[32:40] board, are there any

[32:42] question? Some

[32:44] question to the gentleman

[32:45] Horse? Are they going to

[32:53] they are posted here

[32:54] coffee? Yes.

[32:57] The plan, as you can see,

[32:58] involves travel from

[32:59] by car, they

[33:00] will go around the building with

[33:01] north end,

[33:03] will gather there and

[33:04] will be on the south

[33:05] ends of the building. They

[33:06] will come and pick up

[33:07] their cars with

[33:08] drive-through windows with

[33:09] south end

[33:10] buildings. They

[33:11] will make one circle,

[33:12] but there is also

[33:13] parking for people

[33:14] who want

[33:15] to park on

[33:16] building area.

[33:28] So, in the summer...Yes,

[33:30] Something happened there. There is more

[33:32] some

[33:33] questions, members

[33:34] rule? Are there any more?

[33:36] question?

[33:38] Thank you, Mr. Connie.

[33:39] Thank you.

[33:42] Ladies and gentlemen, now

[33:43] we open it for

[33:45] public

[33:45] discussion. If there is

[33:47] public

[33:47] discussion of this

[33:48] petitions, please

[33:50] come to

[33:50] microphone.

[34:02] Good evening. Your

[34:04] name and address for

[34:05] records, please.

[34:06] Uh, Scott Roberts, uh

[34:08] , I Street, 309. I have

[34:09] business in the neighborhood.

[34:12] And I think that I

[34:13] The only thing that worries me is that I don't

[34:14] saw any scheme or

[34:16] something other than

[34:17] where the flow will be

[34:18] transport. Uh, mine

[34:20] driveway too

[34:22] runs along

[34:23] the entire back

[34:24] parts of them

[34:24] property. So I don't

[34:26] I was sure, you know,

[34:27] Where exactly will the flow go?

[34:29] transport. And I am a little

[34:31] concerned that

[34:32] happening in front

[34:33] where my

[34:34] clients. That's where it's from.

[34:36] their will come out

[34:37] clients. So I didn't know.

[34:38] , will something happen

[34:39] to share our

[34:40] territory. Or

[34:42] they will establish

[34:43] a chain or something like that,

[34:44] so that people don't come in

[34:46] on my side, right?

[34:48] Could you, sir?

[34:49] Connor, step back here,

[34:50] Please?

[34:52] And just stay.

[34:53] here,

[34:56] because you don't see it,

[34:58] and I would like him to

[34:59] took it

[35:01] and showed him that we

[35:02] could answer

[35:03] question, dispel

[35:05] all doubts and everything

[35:06] another so that everyone can

[35:07] to see that

[35:08] is happening. Therefore,

[35:20] the place where we are bordering where ours is.

[35:22] the territory touches

[35:23] his property,

[35:24] really uplifting

[35:25] the right moment if

[35:27] you will not be careful

[35:28] . Uh, we created

[35:31] enough space for

[35:33] so that the machine

[35:34] could go next to

[35:35] this lane, right?

[35:36] There's enough space there,

[35:37] because, according to

[35:38] by survey, there

[35:39] approximately 17 by 18

[35:40] feet. So, this is

[35:43] small, uh, area

[35:44] open to him on

[35:46] his parking lot, and if

[35:47] this will help him and me

[35:48] I think that's probably it.

[35:50] , will help us both,

[35:51] if there was any

[35:52] barrier that would

[35:53] suited us both,

[35:54] to stop the cars

[35:56] from, perhaps,

[35:56] installing the tire on

[35:58] its area or

[35:59] even from driving in case of emergency

[36:01] situations. There is a place,

[36:04] someone panics, they

[36:05] will be on it

[36:06] area. So, I don't

[36:07] I think this is bad.

[36:09] the idea is to limit it. Yes,

[36:11] but he also

[36:12] worried about

[36:13] rear cross section

[36:14] parts of the property.

[36:15] Right.

[36:21] That's all, all

[36:22] this parking lot

[36:23] is on this,

[36:25] Nothing is outside

[36:27] territory. All

[36:28] is located on

[36:29] own property.

[36:30] I didn't know if you know about this.

[36:32] Yes. And we are not on.

[36:35] So, in this area

[36:36] there are actually four

[36:37] curb exits, and you

[36:38] actually going to

[36:39] give up two

[36:40] of them. The one who

[36:41] closest to yours

[36:42] entrance, will be

[36:43] refused.

[36:44] He is no more.

[36:45] Yes, it is no longer available.

[36:46] will be. Just so you

[36:47] knew about it. AND

[36:48] Yes,

[36:51] no, Skyler wanted

[36:55] you blocked it.

[36:58] So your people

[36:59] come out of here, and these

[37:00] people will come out.

[37:02] Yes. Of course. It was

[37:03] part of the agreements that we

[37:04] Let's close some of them.

[37:06] I don't know why they have

[37:06] there were so many

[37:07] curb exits.

[37:08] There were about seven of them.

[37:09] Yes, they were everywhere.

[37:10] So,

[37:11] just a little

[37:12] remove it to

[37:13] it was easy

[37:13] orientate,

[37:14] to enter and exit,

[37:16] and so that it does not affect

[37:17] at your entrance and exit.

[37:18] That was right.

[37:19] remark, because

[37:20] both of these trips

[37:21] correct.

[37:24] Anything else, sir?

[37:28] No. The only thing I haven't done yet

[37:31] I know, do you know?

[37:32] when Palix and

[37:34] they covered all this

[37:35] gravel, you know, it

[37:36] there were about 8 tons. I am not

[37:39] I know if they had it,

[37:40] are they really

[37:41] have you examined this?

[37:42] they probably

[37:43] leveled everything down.

[37:45] They wanted this.

[37:46] take.

[37:47] Yes. And you now.

[38:02] OK. Of course.

[38:11] OK. So, when

[38:12] I don't care if it is

[38:14] actually better, but

[38:15] I just because it is

[38:16] it was faster. Now you

[38:18] Do you want to move?

[38:18] Well, can you tell me?

[38:19] help? Can you help me

[38:21] pay for it?

[38:22] Well, because I

[38:23] ordered now

[38:24] lay asphalt. So

[38:25] ,

[38:25] seriously?

[38:26] Yes. Do you want

[38:27] asphalt on your side

[38:29] on me? It's easy. I

[38:32] asked

[38:33] to apologize for that

[38:34] was on your

[38:35] property, but was

[38:36] there. There were many

[38:37] things for

[38:37] alignment and

[38:38] removal from the site, but,

[38:39] uh, better than it was.

[38:40] Good. Four curves

[38:42] excavations and gravel. It

[38:43] quite a good deal.

[38:45] Yes. Something else?

[38:48] Good.

[38:50] Thank you,

[38:53] Ladies and gentlemen.

[38:54] More public

[38:55] discussion.

[38:59] . Public

[39:01] discussion now

[39:02] closed. Mr. Connor,

[39:04] You came off easy.

[39:07] Mr. York, can we, please,

[39:09] to get acquainted with

[39:10] your reports?

[39:10] Of course. Of course.

[39:12] Hmm, this is a report for

[39:14] petition B-112-18. Michael

[39:19] Connor, uh, or Big B

[39:21] Coffee. Uh,

[39:22] Department of Water

[39:23] resources, Randy

[39:24] Russell, no objection.

[39:25] Sanitation, er,

[39:26] also does not deny. THERE ARE-

[39:28] uh, the fire department is not

[39:29] denies. Uh,

[39:30] department

[39:31] planning, applicants,

[39:32] which require

[39:32] special exception

[39:34] for a restaurant with

[39:34] service

[39:35] by car in

[39:36] zoning district

[39:37] B2. Requirements of the resolution

[39:38] about zoning. Dana

[39:39] property

[39:40] is located in zone B2,

[39:41] general

[39:42] commercial district.

[39:43] A resolution is needed.

[39:44] about zoning 7.02 in

[39:45] Table 7.02 requires

[39:46] from restaurants with

[39:47] service

[39:48] by car

[39:49] to apply for

[39:50] special exception

[39:51] through BZA so that they

[39:52] responded

[39:53] additional requirements,

[39:54] contained in

[39:55] proposed

[39:56] section 14.06

[39:56] Subdivision B

[39:57] provisions on

[39:58] using.

[39:59] The applicant proposes

[40:00] open a coffee shop with

[40:01] service

[40:02] by car for

[40:03] new coffee shop in

[40:04] this place. uh,

[40:05] comments. The only one

[40:06] the remark that I

[40:07] I'm going to do it, and I

[40:08] did, perhaps,

[40:09] realizing this, this

[40:11] that new coffee shop

[40:12] almost completely

[40:13] will use

[40:14] parking spaces

[40:15] here, as well as mandatory,

[40:16] and I in more detail

[40:17] I will tell you about it.

[40:18] later. Therefore,

[40:19] parking required

[40:20] for this coffee shop

[40:22] is approximately

[40:23] 13 places currently

[40:24] exhausts to the maximum

[40:25] parking spaces on

[40:27] territory. Therefore,

[40:28] proposed

[40:28] using,

[40:29] proposed

[40:30] conclusions regarding

[40:31] special

[40:31] exceptional

[40:32] using,

[40:33] standards

[40:33] special

[40:34] exceptional

[40:35] using

[40:35] set out below and

[40:36] contained in

[40:37] zoning

[40:38] at the disposal of 24.05, and

[40:39] department conclusions

[40:40] planning is given

[40:41] lower. Number one-

[40:42] general welfare.

[40:44] The offer is not

[40:45] will cause harm

[40:45] health, safety and

[40:47] general welfare

[40:48] communities. Repeated

[40:49] use of this

[40:50] buildings and crossing

[40:51] from the platform for

[40:52] used cars

[40:53] and auto repair shops to

[40:54] new commercial

[40:55] The coffee shop won't hurt.

[40:56] harm to the public

[40:57] health and safety

[40:58] and general

[40:59] community well-being.

[41:00] Number two - surrounding

[41:01] property.

[41:02] Special exceptional

[41:03] use not

[41:04] will cause harm

[41:04] use and

[41:05] using another

[41:06] property in

[41:07] direct

[41:07] proximity for already

[41:08] permitted purpose, and

[41:09] also not significantly

[41:10] will reduce or not

[41:11] will worsen the cost

[41:12] real estate in this

[41:13] district. Installation

[41:14] special exception

[41:15] regarding the use of not

[41:16] will hinder

[41:17] normal and

[41:17] orderly

[41:18] improvement

[41:19] surrounding

[41:19] real estate for

[41:20] using,

[41:21] permitted in the district.

[41:22] This is the use

[41:23] similar to others

[41:24] types of use,

[41:25] located

[41:26] near and

[41:26] directly

[41:27] adjacent to this

[41:28] real estate.

[41:29] Danger number three.

[41:31] Special exception

[41:32] regarding the use of not

[41:33] should be

[41:34] dangers for

[41:35] neighboring

[41:36] real estate or

[41:37] comprise

[41:37] using,

[41:38] activity,

[41:39] materials or

[41:40] equipment that

[41:40] will cause harm

[41:41] health, safety and

[41:43] the well-being of people or

[41:44] property due to excessive

[41:45] noise generation from

[41:46] traffic, smoke

[41:47] or smell, exhaust

[41:49] gases or glare.

[41:50] This is the use

[41:51] similar to others

[41:51] types of use,

[41:52] located in

[41:53] direct

[41:54] proximity to this

[41:55] real estate.

[41:56] Public facilities and

[41:57] services.

[41:58] The use will be

[41:59] properly

[42:00] to be served

[42:00] important

[42:01] public

[42:02] objects and

[42:02] services such as

[42:03] highways,

[42:04] streets, police and

[42:05] fire protection,

[42:06] drainage structures,

[42:07] water supply and

[42:08] sewage, buildings,

[42:09] waste disposal

[42:10] and schools. Was it or

[42:12] appropriate measures will be taken

[42:13] measures for

[42:14] securing entry

[42:15] and departure in this way

[42:16] to minimize

[42:17] traffic jams on

[42:18] public streets.

[42:20] This area has all the

[42:21] necessary public

[42:22] objects

[42:23] directly next to,

[42:24] and within the framework

[42:24] preparatory work for

[42:26] construction of a new wells

[42:28] there will be no sewage system,

[42:29] but everything was...they

[42:30] passed through the department

[42:31] sewage and

[42:32] sanitation, received

[42:33] all permissions for their

[42:34] siphons and the like. I

[42:35] should have said that...

[42:36] all other important

[42:37] public facilities are

[42:39] sufficient for this

[42:40] places. Number five,

[42:41] building requirements.

[42:43] Development of the site

[42:44] will respond

[42:45] the purpose of the requirements for

[42:46] buildings,

[42:47] established by this

[42:48] resolution for

[42:49] similar

[42:49] using.

[42:51] The building will be

[42:51] designed,

[42:52] built,

[42:53] exploited,

[42:54] to be served and

[42:55] will be compatible with

[42:55] existing or

[42:56] predictable

[42:57] the nature of the general

[42:58] neighborhood, based on

[42:59] comprehensive plan

[43:00] land management of the district, and

[43:01] will not change it

[43:03] significantly. This building

[43:04] fits the purpose

[43:05] comprehensive plan

[43:06] land management, which

[43:07] provides

[43:08] self-oriented

[43:09] business along

[43:10] street corridor

[43:11] Franklin, 421. Room

[43:12] six, intention

[43:13] resolutions. Granting

[43:16] special exception

[43:17] for use not

[43:18] will contradict

[43:19] general goals, which

[43:20] this resolution serves,

[43:21] and will not harm

[43:22] permanent damage

[43:23] other property or

[43:24] use in the same

[43:25] zoning district

[43:26] and nearby. Approval

[43:27] this special

[43:28] exception for

[43:29] use not

[43:30] will change constantly

[43:31] building scheme that

[43:32] is in this

[43:33] street area

[43:34] Franklin, 421. Room

[43:35] seven, development plan

[43:36] lands of the district.

[43:37] Suggested

[43:38] use will be

[43:39] answer

[43:39] nature of zoning

[43:40] the area in which it is

[43:41] located, according to

[43:43] recommendations of the plan

[43:44] land development

[43:45] district. Request for

[43:47] special exception

[43:48] will respond

[43:49] character and purpose

[43:50] relevant

[43:51] zoning of the area and

[43:52] development plan

[43:53] lands of the district. Number

[43:56] eight, rules

[43:57] using. Where

[43:58] there are specific rules

[43:59] use that

[44:00] contained in Article 14,

[44:02] special exception

[44:03] you must

[44:03] apply together

[44:04] with all the rules that

[44:06] apply to

[44:07] use according to

[44:11] with subdivision B. eh,

[44:12] restaurants with

[44:13] drive-through services

[44:14] must comply

[44:15] next additional

[44:17] requirements. Number one,

[44:20] drive-through facility

[44:21] should be

[44:22] located on

[44:22] side or rear

[44:23] part of the building to

[44:24] minimize

[44:25] visual visibility

[44:26] from public and

[44:27] private road.

[44:28] The plot must be

[44:29] oriented towards this

[44:30] so that the lanes for

[44:31] driveway and windows

[44:32] there were no landings

[44:33] a noticeable part

[44:34] buildings. You can

[44:35] notice that he

[44:36] located on

[44:36] south side

[44:37] object, and the scoreboard

[44:38] orders

[44:39] located closer

[44:40] to the back

[44:41] buildings. So,

[44:42] this is respected. Service

[44:44] travel from

[44:44] cars has

[44:45] to be fenced off

[44:46] from the neighbors

[44:47] residential premises

[44:48] solid

[44:49] shielding walls,

[44:50] according to the resolution

[44:53] 17.03, so that

[44:55] this had no effect on

[44:56] use and

[44:57] pleasure from

[44:58] residential real estate

[45:00] . Adjacent rooms

[45:03] in the north, south and

[45:04] behind is commercial

[45:05] real estate zone B2. AND

[45:08] then we can

[45:09] work through some

[45:10] extra things

[45:11] ahead, perhaps, for us

[45:13] will have to be planted

[45:14] some shrubs

[45:15] in front to shade

[45:16] these lights that shine.

[45:19] This is the only thing I wanted.

[45:21] would add. Thirdly,

[45:24] must be ensured

[45:25] clear demarcation

[45:27] between travel from

[45:27] cars and

[45:28] parking lot

[45:29] playground. You may notice that

[45:32] this was adhered to.

[45:33] See the plan

[45:34] plots. Must be

[45:36] at least 10 seats

[45:37] for stacking. I know that this is not the case here.

[45:41] shown, but we

[45:42] measured, and probably

[45:43] there are more than 10

[45:44] parking spaces,

[45:45] which extend

[45:46] from the lane to

[45:47] back to

[45:48] actual

[45:49] front

[45:50] north corner.

[45:52] Probably more like 15

[45:54] places. Um, number five,

[45:59] every checkpoint

[46:00] must have a stripe

[46:01] evacuation so that others

[46:02] vehicles

[46:03] could bypass those,

[46:04] who is waiting for

[46:05] service. Um,

[46:06] you may notice,

[46:07] What does he have, uh,

[46:08] opportunity to do

[46:09] two evacuation lanes,

[46:10] one of the northern

[46:11] sides and one of

[46:12] southern. Uh,

[46:13] north side

[46:14] was what we were working on

[46:15] worked. She was

[46:16] narrower, but we really

[46:18] we believe that there should be

[46:19] way to get around

[46:20] both sides. Therefore,

[46:21] it was done. Um,

[46:24] will be provided

[46:25] only one access per

[46:26] any street. It

[46:28] was completed.

[46:29] See the plan

[46:29] plots. Uh, they

[46:31] provide access

[46:32] along 4 US 429 Franklin Street

[46:34] and access along Chestnut

[46:35] , and also close, uh

[46:37] , two existing curbs,

[46:38] which ones are there now, about which ones

[46:40] we talked before. THERE ARE-

[46:41] uh, closing these two.

[46:44] Uh, number seven, where

[46:45] restaurant built

[46:46] next to commercial

[46:47] use, will be

[46:49] direct installed

[46:50] transport connection

[46:51] with the neighbor

[46:52] plot, if it is

[46:52] perhaps. Um, we just

[46:54] received

[46:54] message from

[46:55] owner of the neighboring

[46:56] plots. Um, if they

[46:58] wish to continue

[46:59] sharing, um, me

[47:00] I will say that this is now.

[47:02] exists, but can also be

[47:05] saved in

[47:06] future through

[47:07] easement, uh, some kind

[47:08] access agreement. It

[47:09] to you guys,

[47:10] decide whether you want

[47:11] you continue

[47:12] shared use

[47:13] , or sharing,

[47:15] but I'll let you decide

[47:16] you. It's not something that isn't there.

[47:17] requirement. It's simple.

[47:19] proposal, this

[47:20] recommendation. Uh,

[47:21] department

[47:22] would recommend

[47:23] approve

[47:24] proposed

[47:25] special exception

[47:26] for use B-112-8

[47:28] under such conditions. It

[47:32] approval

[47:32] applies only

[47:34] to the use that

[47:35] is the subject of a petition,

[47:36] and any extension

[47:37] this use

[47:38] or other

[47:39] use on this

[47:40] property will require

[47:42] , uh, providing

[47:42] additional

[47:43] parking space

[47:44] according to the article

[47:45] 18 resolutions on

[47:46] zoning to

[47:47] settlement. And I wanted

[47:48] would be a little more detailed

[47:50] explain this. I know,

[47:51] who hinted at this on

[47:52] beginning, uh, reading

[47:54] it. Uh, for now

[47:55] the party that

[47:56] used, uh

[47:57] , we calculate, uh,

[47:59] parking based

[48:00] square feet, uh,

[48:02] essentially, uh, areas for

[48:03] service

[48:04] customers. So, this is not

[48:07] includes rear

[48:07] part of the restaurant or

[48:09] coffee shops. So it's not

[48:11] includes, uh, where

[48:12] They are making coffee. It

[48:13] includes a place where

[48:15] are clients.

[48:16] So it's not really

[48:17] very large space

[48:18] now. So it turns out

[48:20] approximately 13 seats. Hmm,

[48:23] and if you noticed,

[48:24] there were about 14

[48:26] places. So, hmm,

[48:27] additional

[48:28] using,

[48:29] let's say, from the right

[48:30] side of the building or from

[48:31] north side

[48:32] buildings, will require

[48:33] additional

[48:34] parking if

[48:35] only this is not

[48:36] use that is not

[48:37] needs parking,

[48:38] what can't I do

[48:39] to think of something not

[48:40] needs parking.

[48:41] You know, I

[48:42] sure that they can

[48:43] be one or two. Hmm,

[48:45] but for this

[48:46] an easement will be needed

[48:47] with a neighbor, uh,

[48:48] buying land, simply

[48:49] search for parking in

[48:51] radius around this

[48:52] buildings that we allow the code.

[48:54] So, I just wanted to

[48:56] explain this a little,

[48:57] to clarify a little. Therefore,

[48:58] at the moment they

[49:00] meet the requirements

[49:01] regarding parking.

[49:03] Thank you, Mr. York.

[49:05] Board members, are there any?

[49:06] some discussion

[49:07] this petition or

[49:08] suggestions? would like

[49:18] to make a proposal

[49:19] about acceptance

[49:26] conclusions regarding

[49:28] facts, reports and

[49:29] approval of petition B

[49:31] 12-18 together with

[49:32] recommendations. IN

[49:37] I have an offer from

[49:38] Mr. Norbell. THERE ARE

[49:40] friend?

[49:41] I support her.

[49:42] Second offer from

[49:44] Miss Janice.

[49:45] You wanted to read

[49:46] recommendations, sir

[49:48] Norville? Are you okay?

[49:49] I'm fine.

[49:50] Good.

[49:53] So, we have

[49:53] recommendation and, uh,

[49:55] condition, as well as

[49:56] part of the approval.

[49:57] Good. Simply

[49:58] make sure.

[49:59] Good.

[50:00] Mr. York, the count

[50:02] , please.

[50:05] Mr. Hook.

[50:06] Yes.

[50:08] Mr. Jackson.

[50:09] Yes.

[50:11] Miss Janice. Yes.

[50:14] Mr. Noel.

[50:15] Yes.

[50:16] The proposal was approved.

[50:17] Congratulations, sir.

[50:19] Thank you.

[50:24] Um, Mr. Connor, we are

[50:25] we can work

[50:26] over additional

[50:27] things in advance, I want to make sure that

[50:29] we are not shining

[50:30] with lights directly on

[50:31] you, and I think we

[50:32] must do this,

[50:33] even if you

[50:34] achieved significant

[50:35] improvement, because

[50:36] this is not a car

[50:37] parking. Thank you. Thank you.

[50:51] Okay, Mr. York, our

[50:53] the next petition,

[50:54] Please. Good. It

[50:58] petition B-11-18 regarding

[51:02] interfaith

[51:04] public

[51:04] shelters, in which

[51:05] permission requested

[51:07] for use

[51:08] real estate for

[51:09] community center,

[51:10] located behind

[51:11] at West 8th street, 101. I don't

[51:13] sure who exactly

[51:15] will speak

[51:16] tonight.

[51:20] Good evening, sir.

[51:22] Please provide

[51:23] your name and address

[51:24] for records.

[51:25] My name is John Wra. I live at the address

[51:28] 109 Beverly Court,

[51:29] Michigan City, and I am

[51:30] lawyer on issues

[51:32] interfaith

[51:33] public

[51:34] shelters and sisters

[51:35] Gary. Besides me,

[51:38] tonight at

[51:39] I will be two.

[51:40] speakers from

[51:40] evidence on

[51:41] support our

[51:42] petitions. What for those of

[51:46] you, who are not familiar,

[51:48] Gary's sisters own

[51:49] this property, and

[51:50] this property is

[51:52] old church of St.

[51:53] Hearts at West

[51:55] -street, 100001, Michigan-

[51:56] City. Gary's Sisters

[52:00] own all

[52:01] Catholic

[52:02] churches, all over

[52:03] parish

[52:03] property, all

[52:04] schools and secondary schools in Michigan-

[52:07] City. Interfaith

[52:09] public shelters

[52:10] –it is the only one in the district

[52:13] Liport program

[52:14] temporary

[52:14] emergency housing as

[52:16] for men, and

[52:17] for women. AND

[52:17] abbreviation PAD

[52:18] decoded as "

[52:20] public action delivering shelter"

[52:21] public action that

[52:22] provides shelter).

[52:24] And here we are today

[52:25] in the evening, and we ask

[52:26] about special

[52:27] exception for

[52:27] using. Property,

[52:30] old church

[52:31] the property belongs to the Daskese family from Gary

[52:33] . Relative of Dasqueze

[52:35] ready to sacrifice

[52:37] this property

[52:37] interfaith

[52:42] public facilities,

[52:43] for construction

[52:44] community center,

[52:45] and we are looking for

[52:46] special exception,

[52:47] therefore the first witness,

[52:48] whom I will invite,

[52:49] Mr. Rojak, you

[52:50] agree that you will ask for

[52:51] special exception

[52:52] for use

[52:53] tonight,

[52:53] special

[52:54] exception for

[52:54] using,

[52:55] special

[52:55] exception for

[52:56] using,

[52:57] yes, I just want to

[52:58] this was recorded in

[52:59] protocol,

[52:59] the first witness, whom

[53:00] we will have here

[53:01] tonight,

[53:02] will be Mr. Harrison

[53:03] Holt Kemp, whom I

[53:04] I'm going to call.

[53:05] Um, Mr. Holt Kemp.

[53:17] Good evening. Your

[53:18] name and address for

[53:19] records, please.

[53:20] My name is Harrison.

[53:22] Holamp, 7871 West 400

[53:23] North, Michigan City.

[53:26] Mr. Holtamp, you

[53:27] director

[53:27] interfaith

[53:28] public roads? I

[53:30] director.

[53:31] And how long have you been

[53:32] director?

[53:34] I have been a director for three years.

[53:35] , and I'm a volunteer there already

[53:37] 17 years old.

[53:39] And does it provide

[53:40] interfaith

[53:41] community emergency

[53:42] shelter for

[53:42] men and women,

[53:44] who do not have

[53:44] affordable housing?

[53:46] We provide.

[53:48] And what other services

[53:49] interfaith

[53:50] the community provides

[53:51] community and guests

[53:52] institution?

[53:53] So, when the guests

[53:54] we are arriving,

[53:55] of course, we give them

[53:56] shelter. We also

[53:58] We provide them with food.

[54:00] We provide

[54:01] help so that others

[54:02] agencies could

[54:03] to help our

[54:04] guests to leave

[54:05] homelessness.

[54:07] And is there an Interfaith

[54:08] community as one

[54:09] emergency shelter

[54:10] in Leeport County for

[54:11] men and women?

[54:12] Er, for men–

[54:13] Yes. For women, yes. THERE ARE

[54:15] and other agencies that

[54:16] offer emergency

[54:17] help. Uh, we

[54:18] the only emergency

[54:19] shelter for

[54:20] men and women,

[54:21] which works constantly.

[54:22] How many months

[54:23] year working male

[54:24] shelter?

[54:25] Men now

[54:26] six are working

[54:27] months in our

[54:27] program. Six

[54:28] months in the program

[54:30] The Salvation Army.

[54:32] And next to the property,

[54:33] regarding which we ask

[54:35] petition, at 10:01 West 8, or

[54:37] Is there a women's shelter?

[54:39] There is a women's and a family one

[54:41] shelter, Sun Castle.

[54:42] And how long is this

[54:43] Does the shelter exist?

[54:44] I think Castle

[54:45] is there

[54:46] about 5 years,

[54:47] maybe six. And how

[54:50] is working now

[54:50] men's shelter.

[54:52] Can you describe?

[54:53] to the members of the council on issues

[54:54] zoning like this

[54:55] works and how is it

[54:56] worked during

[54:57] the last 17 years?

[54:58] So, we invite

[54:59] our guests. Hmm, near

[55:01] There is a small entrance

[55:02] protection. Actually,

[55:03] there are many at the entrance

[55:04] security. So we check their

[55:06] things. We examine them,

[55:07] and this year we are going

[55:08] to provide an overview,

[55:09] metal detector everyone

[55:10] their things. Not that

[55:11] we ever

[55:12] there were problems, but we want to provide

[55:14] the safety of our place

[55:14] and their safety. We also offer

[55:16] breathalyzer near

[55:17] entrance, not for that,

[55:18] to exclude people,

[55:19] and in order to

[55:20] actually

[55:20] diagnose people.

[55:21] Hmm, in the warmer months,

[55:22] when the temperature

[55:23] above 40 °, we do not

[55:24] we allow guests in

[55:25] intoxicated

[55:25] drunkenness brothers

[55:26] participation in our

[55:27] program. But when

[55:28] temperature below 40 °

[55:29] , for their sake

[55:30] security we really them

[55:31] we let in. They

[55:32] are in

[55:32] a small area where they

[55:33] not allowed

[55:34] communicate with

[55:34] other guests

[55:35] for several

[55:36] hours. So, they

[55:36] receive a small

[55:38] respite for

[55:38] adults, um, for their own

[55:40] guilt. We also

[55:41] we have the opportunity

[55:42] talk to them, and

[55:43] we pass on their

[55:44] wrong numbers,

[55:45] their numbers displayed

[55:46] consultants and

[55:47] their affairs in Keys to

[55:48] Hope.

[55:50] And what about

[55:51] number of institutions

[55:52] men's shelter,

[55:53] which is now in

[55:54] Michigan City, how much?

[55:55] institutions you

[55:56] Do you use?

[55:58] Um, now we have

[55:59] eight churches that

[56:00] cooperate with our

[56:01] male and female

[56:03] programs.

[56:05] And these churches

[56:06] located on

[56:07] throughout the center

[56:08] Michigan City. Ahem,

[56:10] six of them

[56:11] are in the center

[56:12] cities. Yes, six of them are in

[56:13] the city center, and two of

[56:14] them now

[56:15] are on

[56:15] south side

[56:16] cities.

[56:16] Is it used?

[56:17] Sacred Heart for some

[56:19] parts of operations

[56:20] now in this season?

[56:21] Sacred Heart, because they

[56:22] derived from

[56:23] operation. Now

[56:24] they are not part of

[56:25] our operations, but

[56:26] last year they

[56:27] were, five nights at

[56:28] week. Before this,

[56:29] only two, up to five between

[56:31] both programs.

[56:32] They are very important for

[56:34] us. And did they arise?

[56:36] any problems with

[56:37] operations at Sacred Heart?

[56:39] Well, what about yours?

[56:41] activities at Sacred Heart?

[56:42] No. No. Sacred Heart has it all

[56:44] perfectly. This is perfect.

[56:46] place.

[56:50] Is it interfaith?

[56:51] community annually

[56:52] provides approximately

[56:53] 7000 nights of accommodation,

[56:56] including

[56:57] six months old

[56:57] men's program and

[56:59] annual year-round

[57:00] women's program? If

[57:01] name one person,

[57:02] who sleeps one night,

[57:03] at night, then for the last

[57:05] we recorded the year

[57:06] over 7000 nights.

[57:09] And do you work without

[57:10] government grants?

[57:11] We don't get

[57:12] no state

[57:13] grants. We get

[57:14] some local grants

[57:16] from Unity Foundation, MCCE,

[57:17] other similar ones

[57:17] organizations,

[57:18] mostly from

[57:19] charitable donations

[57:20] in its natural form.

[57:23] Can you estimate,

[57:24] How many guests are you?

[57:25] served on time

[57:26] your volunteer

[57:27] work as a director?

[57:29] So, ever since I

[57:30] became director, in

[57:31] there were on average 10 of us

[57:33] about 85-85 receptions

[57:34] for men

[57:35] programs in the first year

[57:37] when I was 16-17

[57:38] years; next

[57:39] this figure increased

[57:41] up to about 90, and

[57:42] last year in

[57:43] men's program

[57:45] there were about 119 people.

[57:47] In the women's program,

[57:48] because this is all new

[57:49] in the first year, hmm,

[57:51] we registered

[57:52] about 40 people between

[57:53] summer and winter

[57:54] shelters; it

[57:55] includes children.

[57:58] Can you tell me?

[58:00] that was a lot

[58:00] success stories

[58:01] some people who

[58:02] died during your

[58:03] programs?

[58:04] Oh, I have a lot.

[58:05] success stories. IN

[58:06] I probably have several.

[58:07] success stories here in

[58:08] the crowd behind me.

[58:09] Hmm, one that falls

[58:10] in our opinion, hmm

[58:11] the first woman in our

[58:13] women's shelter

[58:14] came to the second

[58:15] day. On the first day in

[58:16] our female

[58:16] We don't have a shelter.

[58:17] there were guests, and I thought I did.

[58:19] a huge mistake,

[58:20] but on the second night it

[58:20] there was a mother who came out

[58:21] from the bus, which

[58:22] runs right in front

[58:23] shelter at Sacred Heart with my little 5-

[58:25] one-year-old daughter, and

[58:25] they stayed on

[58:26] night. They were ours.

[58:27] the first guests, and

[58:28] during the week they

[58:29] got into another one

[58:30] asylum programs,

[58:31] what we are working on

[58:32] side by side with CCH, Citizens

[58:33] Concerned for the Homeless, and they

[58:34] run Sandcastle. They

[58:35] were participants in this

[58:36] programs, and during

[58:37] two weeks in

[58:38] They are back at Sandcastle

[58:39] were in their own

[58:39] apartment with

[58:40] agencies with which

[58:41] we cooperate,

[58:42] especially when people

[58:42] submit applications themselves.

[58:43] This is really

[58:44] happens quickly,

[58:45] and in this area there is

[58:46] many agencies that

[58:47] help us, and we work closely with

[58:49] them.

[58:50] Is the property Sacred?

[58:52] Heart on the bus

[58:53] route? He is on

[58:54] bus route

[58:55] every half hour

[58:57] in front of this building at

[58:58] 8:00 p.m., at 8:00 p.m., and at 10:00 a.m.

[58:59] And why the bus?

[59:00] Is the route important?

[59:01] So some of our

[59:02] it is difficult for guests

[59:03] to move around on foot

[59:04] Some of our guests

[59:05] actually

[59:06] returning from

[59:06] works, and they,

[59:07] probably don't have

[59:08] machinery. In our

[59:09] the program is very small

[59:10] drivers. But also

[59:11] it is important simply

[59:12] to reach others

[59:13] services, which, again,

[59:14] yes, if in Michigan-

[59:15] The city has services that everyone

[59:16] separated, and

[59:16] bus route

[59:17] actually connects them

[59:18] all together. Therefore, when

[59:19] I create websites and

[59:20] I'm trying to ask.

[59:21] other churches to become

[59:21] part of our

[59:22] programs, I am sure that they

[59:23] on the bus

[59:24] route, because it is

[59:25] vital for

[59:25] our program. For

[59:26] our guests life

[59:28] it is important to move around

[59:29] city.

[59:30] You belong to

[59:31] correct

[59:32] religious community?

[59:34] You are asking about

[59:35] deviation from

[59:36] special

[59:36] using?

[59:39] Yes.

[59:40] And with this deviation

[59:41] from special

[59:42] use, or

[59:43] undertakes

[59:44] organizer

[59:44] donate to you

[59:45] real estate?

[59:47] Yes. Within the framework

[59:55] preparation for

[59:56] today's

[59:57] in the evening you ask

[1:00:03] me to get thoughts

[1:00:04] regarding any

[1:00:08] economic impact

[1:00:09] this property on

[1:00:11] owners of the neighboring

[1:00:12] real estate in this

[1:00:13] district. I did it.

[1:00:15] And I show you

[1:00:16] document marked

[1:00:17] as proof number one.

[1:00:19] Can you describe,

[1:00:20] What kind of document is this? There

[1:00:21] written "Service

[1:00:23] "Leeport County Assessments"

[1:00:24] . It looks like this, hmm,

[1:00:26] meeting minutes

[1:00:27] of

[1:00:27] location "

[1:00:28] Sacred Heart". Uh,

[1:00:32] he essentially expresses,

[1:00:34] hmm, how much space is there,

[1:00:41] how many, hmm, are there

[1:00:42] parking spaces,

[1:00:43] hmm, what is it really from?

[1:00:45] composes itself

[1:00:46] community, and it doesn't have to,

[1:00:47] hmm, negative

[1:00:48] impact on existing

[1:00:49] neighbors or the area, and

[1:00:50] also provides

[1:00:51] humanitarian and

[1:00:52] charitable services

[1:00:53] outraged and most

[1:00:54] our needy

[1:00:55] communities.

[1:00:59] So, this is professional

[1:01:00] Mr. Lewis's opinion

[1:01:01] Assessment error

[1:01:02] district, that this

[1:01:03] will not have shelter

[1:01:04] no negative

[1:01:06] impact on existing

[1:01:07] neighbors or neighborhood. I see this for the first time, and,

[1:01:11] Of course. Yes.

[1:01:13] Excuse me, gentlemen. Sir

[1:01:15] Wait, can you?

[1:01:16] please,

[1:01:17] read this to

[1:01:18] protocol?

[1:01:19] If you are going to do this

[1:01:20] to lift...Yes, I want to, have this read to

[1:01:22] protocol, please

[1:01:23] . I apologize, friends,

[1:01:24] but

[1:01:25] I just want

[1:01:26] make sure that this

[1:01:27] Yes.

[1:01:27] Good. Letters to me,

[1:01:30] um, at the meeting from 10

[1:01:31] September 2018 regarding

[1:01:33] Sacred Heart Church

[1:01:34] at 101 West H

[1:01:36] Street. The question that

[1:01:37] they put me,

[1:01:38] is whether

[1:01:39] proposed change

[1:01:40] using

[1:01:41] will harm the area.

[1:01:42] As far as I understand,

[1:01:43] Dasseze with Gary,

[1:01:44] the current owner has

[1:01:46] intention to convey

[1:01:47] organization building

[1:01:48] called Interface City Pads

[1:01:50] . Historically Hitter Interfaith

[1:01:52] City Pads managed

[1:01:53] a refuge for

[1:01:53] homeless men

[1:01:55] within six

[1:01:56] months per year,

[1:01:56] spending one night in

[1:01:58] seven local

[1:01:59] churches of various

[1:01:59] religious

[1:02:00] beliefs and

[1:02:01] denominations, including

[1:02:02] existing church

[1:02:03] Sacred Heart.

[1:02:04] As far as I understand,

[1:02:05] you are applying for

[1:02:06] receiving benefits for

[1:02:07] special

[1:02:08] use to seven

[1:02:09] churches could

[1:02:09] use

[1:02:10] Church of the Sacred Heart

[1:02:11] seven days a week

[1:02:12] as a shelter for

[1:02:13] homeless men.

[1:02:15] It should be noted that

[1:02:16] emergency points

[1:02:17] worked during

[1:02:18] many years without

[1:02:19] incidents. Object

[1:02:21] Sacred Heart

[1:02:21] consists of two

[1:02:22] areas where

[1:02:23] church is located

[1:02:25] building and another one

[1:02:26] disorderly

[1:02:26] area. Existing

[1:02:28] The building has an area of 5644

[1:02:29] square feet and

[1:02:31] approximately 12,700

[1:02:32] square feet

[1:02:33] asphalt

[1:02:34] coating. Existing

[1:02:36] the area is assigned to

[1:02:37] R1D zones as

[1:02:37] single-family

[1:02:38] residential building on

[1:02:39] residential areas

[1:02:40] medium size.

[1:02:42] In my opinion, this

[1:02:42] complex enough

[1:02:43] big and has

[1:02:44] sufficient quantity

[1:02:45] heat sources to

[1:02:46] more than

[1:02:47] to satisfy one's own

[1:02:48] using. According to

[1:02:49] with the R1D district, churches,

[1:02:50] chapels, temples,

[1:02:51] community centers

[1:02:52] need

[1:02:53] special

[1:02:54] options

[1:02:54] use, but

[1:02:55] such use as

[1:02:57] rule, allowed as

[1:02:58] part of the housing

[1:02:59] complex and is

[1:03:00] ubiquitous in

[1:03:01] most areas

[1:03:02] Michigan City. On mine

[1:03:04] opinion, use

[1:03:06] men's shelter

[1:03:07] doesn't have much

[1:03:08] harmful effects on

[1:03:09] existing neighbors or

[1:03:10] district, but provides

[1:03:11] humanitarian and

[1:03:12] compassionate help

[1:03:13] needy and

[1:03:14] the most needy

[1:03:15] of our community. Except

[1:03:17] moreover, the use

[1:03:18] this object

[1:03:19] will prevent

[1:03:20] vandalism and

[1:03:21] crimes that are often

[1:03:23] occur in

[1:03:23] buildings that are less common

[1:03:25] populated, respectively,

[1:03:26] submitted by Lewis Pazudo,

[1:03:27] certified

[1:03:28] residential appraiser

[1:03:29] state real estate

[1:03:30] Indiana. To the letter

[1:03:33] attached

[1:03:34] Mr. qualification

[1:03:35] Pizudo. There are two more or

[1:03:55] three more letters. Hmm, one

[1:03:58] from the Social Group

[1:03:59] justice of the city

[1:04:00] Michigan, one from

[1:04:08] home team

[1:04:09] district coordinator,

[1:04:11] one from

[1:04:11] public fund.

[1:04:12] Do you want me too?

[1:04:14] Did you read them?

[1:04:16] If the letters are

[1:04:17] filed as public

[1:04:19] document, yes, I am

[1:04:20] I want these people here.

[1:04:21] heard exactly what

[1:04:22] I just did it.

[1:04:23] I mean, I

[1:04:24] I'm sorry, friends, but

[1:04:26] I think you all

[1:04:26] deserve to hear

[1:04:28] everything we see that

[1:04:29] we see and what we hear.

[1:04:30] This next letter,

[1:04:32] which we call

[1:04:33] proof two, from

[1:04:34] Social groups

[1:04:35] justice of the city

[1:04:36] Michigan. Please,

[1:04:37] accept our

[1:04:38] support for the application for

[1:04:39] interfaith

[1:04:40] public ways for

[1:04:41] use on

[1:04:42] area at the address

[1:04:43] West A Street, 10001,

[1:04:44] former church

[1:04:45] Sacred Heart.

[1:04:46] Michigan City has

[1:04:47] great need for

[1:04:47] permanent shelter

[1:04:48] for men, women

[1:04:49] and families who

[1:04:50] suffer from

[1:04:51] homelessness. Daily

[1:04:53] relocation of the shelter

[1:04:54] from church to church is

[1:04:55] logistically difficult

[1:04:56] for our members

[1:04:57] communities that

[1:04:58] use

[1:04:59] services that

[1:05:00] makes it difficult to search and

[1:05:01] volunteer support

[1:05:02] and demands more

[1:05:03] resources and

[1:05:04] materials in different

[1:05:05] places. Permanent

[1:05:08] location

[1:05:09] will provide greater

[1:05:10] stability

[1:05:10] volunteers and the best

[1:05:11] services for our

[1:05:12] residents who

[1:05:13] most in need

[1:05:14] this type of shelter.

[1:05:15] In our city

[1:05:16] observed

[1:05:17] increase in number

[1:05:18] families looking for

[1:05:19] shelter in the near future

[1:05:20] years, and we must

[1:05:21] to provide

[1:05:21] permanent option

[1:05:22] emergency shelter,

[1:05:23] who can

[1:05:24] expand, not

[1:05:25] the one who constantly

[1:05:26] tries

[1:05:26] to provide sufficient

[1:05:28] the number of churches that

[1:05:29] participate, and

[1:05:29] trying to find

[1:05:30] more resources and

[1:05:31] donations. None

[1:05:33] need to work

[1:05:34] more when

[1:05:34] available more

[1:05:35] permanent option. It

[1:05:37] better for ours

[1:05:37] residents,

[1:05:38] volunteers and communities

[1:05:39] in general. When

[1:05:40] services are available

[1:05:41] confused and

[1:05:42] inconsistent,

[1:05:43] more people

[1:05:43] find themselves on the street.

[1:05:45] We ask you

[1:05:45] approve the application

[1:05:46] interfaith

[1:05:47] public

[1:05:48] pillow on

[1:05:48] deviation from

[1:05:49] use for

[1:05:50] former church

[1:05:51] Sacred Heart. It

[1:05:52] second proof. Third

[1:05:55] proof, um, provided

[1:05:56] home team

[1:05:57] Leeport County or

[1:05:58] continuous

[1:05:59] care. Um, here's theirs.

[1:06:02] letter of support regarding

[1:06:03] deviation from

[1:06:04] using

[1:06:04] former church

[1:06:05] Sacred Heart.

[1:06:06] Delivery team

[1:06:07] services consists of

[1:06:08] 30 suppliers

[1:06:09] services, government officials,

[1:06:10] educators,

[1:06:11] representatives

[1:06:12] religious

[1:06:12] organizations and

[1:06:13] caring people who

[1:06:14] monthly

[1:06:15] meet for

[1:06:16] communication and

[1:06:16] cooperation on

[1:06:17] projects,

[1:06:18] aimed at

[1:06:19] plan advancement

[1:06:20] Leeport County regarding

[1:06:21] overcoming

[1:06:21] homelessness.

[1:06:22] Delivery team

[1:06:23] services recognizes

[1:06:24] effort

[1:06:25] interfaith

[1:06:25] public

[1:06:26] shelters,

[1:06:27] aimed at

[1:06:27] software

[1:06:28] emergency shelter

[1:06:29] for the most

[1:06:30] vulnerable citizens

[1:06:31] our community, and

[1:06:32] the greatest benefit

[1:06:33] from use

[1:06:34] church buildings

[1:06:35] Sacred Heart,

[1:06:35] helping them

[1:06:36] to do one's duty

[1:06:37] mission. Building

[1:06:38] serves spiritual and

[1:06:39] material

[1:06:40] community needs

[1:06:41] over a hundred years. This

[1:06:43] community during

[1:06:44] the last 18 years

[1:06:45] places

[1:06:45] interfaith

[1:06:46] public

[1:06:47] men's shelter.

[1:06:49] Various uses

[1:06:50] will not cause harm

[1:06:51] public

[1:06:52] health, safety,

[1:06:53] morality or general

[1:06:54] well-being and will

[1:06:55] useful for the community

[1:06:56] in all aspects.

[1:06:57] The need for constant

[1:06:58] shelter for

[1:06:59] homeless

[1:06:59] men and women

[1:07:00] has increased over the last 18

[1:07:01] years since

[1:07:02] establishment

[1:07:03] interfaith

[1:07:03] public

[1:07:04] men's shelter

[1:07:05] a group of locals

[1:07:06] churches under

[1:07:06] led by Dorothy

[1:07:07] Miller and Nancy

[1:07:08] Bracken. Primary

[1:07:09] shelter program,

[1:07:10] what was offered,

[1:07:11] was staffed

[1:07:12] volunteers and

[1:07:13] alternated with

[1:07:13] church basements-

[1:07:14] participants during

[1:07:15] cold months with

[1:07:16] October to April,

[1:07:17] but served

[1:07:18] only men. Interfaith

[1:07:19] serves as

[1:07:20] men, and

[1:07:22] women since their

[1:07:23] registration and

[1:07:24] obtaining 501c3 status

[1:07:26] The tax service in

[1:07:27] 2017. With each

[1:07:28] It gets harder every year.

[1:07:29] find enough

[1:07:30] number of volunteers

[1:07:31] for maintenance

[1:07:33] places of refuge and

[1:07:34] searching for churches that

[1:07:35] want and can

[1:07:35] participate. If in

[1:07:37] we will run out

[1:07:38] volunteers and churches-

[1:07:39] participants, then housing

[1:07:40] for the homeless now

[1:07:41] will be a problem for

[1:07:42] religious community

[1:07:43] Michigan City, and this

[1:07:44] will be a problem for

[1:07:45] city

[1:07:46] administration

[1:07:46] Michigan. Permanent

[1:07:47] place will mean

[1:07:48] less spending on

[1:07:49] supply, less

[1:07:50] food waste due to

[1:07:51] absence

[1:07:52] refrigeration

[1:07:52] equipment. It

[1:07:53] will mean easier

[1:07:54] communication with

[1:07:55] city police and

[1:07:56] emergency service

[1:07:57] assistance,

[1:07:57] will need less

[1:07:58] staff and

[1:07:59] staff,

[1:07:59] will provide

[1:08:00] a stable base

[1:08:00] activities for

[1:08:01] men and women,

[1:08:02] who seek

[1:08:03] improve your life

[1:08:04] and move forward to

[1:08:05] permanent residence. It

[1:08:06] will mean that

[1:08:07] religious community

[1:08:08] will be able to continue

[1:08:09] serve our

[1:08:10] homeless population

[1:08:11] with the support of the city

[1:08:12] administration in

[1:08:13] the following years.

[1:08:14] The Holy Building

[1:08:14] Hearts will provide

[1:08:16] permanent place.

[1:08:16] Please approve.

[1:08:18] their application for

[1:08:19] deviation from

[1:08:19] using.

[1:08:21] Final letter from

[1:08:22] District Unity Fund

[1:08:23] Liport. This will be ours.

[1:08:24] Exhibit 4. Dear

[1:08:25] BZA members, please

[1:08:27] accept this letter

[1:08:28] support application for

[1:08:29] interfaith

[1:08:30] public pads

[1:08:31] to deviate from

[1:08:32] using

[1:08:33] real estate for

[1:08:33] address: Street A, 10001,

[1:08:35] formerly known as

[1:08:36] Church of the Sacred Heart.

[1:08:37] This building served

[1:08:38] spiritual

[1:08:38] material

[1:08:39] community needs

[1:08:40] over 100 years.

[1:08:41] Over the past 18

[1:08:42] years here

[1:08:43] was located

[1:08:43] interfaith

[1:08:44] public

[1:08:45] men's shelter,

[1:08:46] to ensure

[1:08:47] life and safety

[1:08:48] people until they

[1:08:49] will find housing.

[1:08:50] The need for constant

[1:08:51] shelter for

[1:08:52] homeless men

[1:08:53] and women have always been

[1:08:54] necessary.

[1:08:55] Interfaith

[1:08:56] public shelter

[1:08:57] was founded 18

[1:08:58] years ago by a group

[1:08:59] local churches under

[1:09:00] led by Dorothy

[1:09:02] Miller and Nancy Brack,

[1:09:03] and the initial grant

[1:09:04] from the Unity Fund and

[1:09:06] the pillow was

[1:09:06] provided by Franciscan Health. IN

[1:09:08] 2004 Unity Fund

[1:09:09] together with the mayor of the city

[1:09:10] Michigan Chuck

[1:09:11] Overberly, Council

[1:09:12] health care

[1:09:13] Dunan and United Way

[1:09:14] started discussing

[1:09:15] housing issues and

[1:09:16] homelessness.

[1:09:18] Known as home

[1:09:18] team, we are together

[1:09:19] studied and learned

[1:09:20] housing issues and

[1:09:21] homelessness, so that

[1:09:21] try to solve

[1:09:22] housing problems and

[1:09:23] homelessness

[1:09:24] the most effective and

[1:09:25] the smartest

[1:09:25] way. By

[1:09:26] Corporation support

[1:09:27] economic

[1:09:28] city development

[1:09:29] Michigan, Mystetsky

[1:09:30] Uptown District and

[1:09:31] grant from the Foundation

[1:09:32] health care with

[1:09:33] Liport, we were looking for

[1:09:34] ways to improve

[1:09:35] our system

[1:09:36] emergency housing.

[1:09:39] One thing is clear:

[1:09:40] permanent place

[1:09:41] the location is

[1:09:42] critically important

[1:09:43] pillar of effective

[1:09:44] systems. Permanent

[1:09:54] location

[1:09:55] will provide

[1:09:56] a stable base

[1:09:57] activities for

[1:09:57] men and women,

[1:09:59] who need

[1:09:59] emergency housing, and

[1:10:00] will also help

[1:10:01] find a constant

[1:10:02] supportive housing. It

[1:10:03] will mean that

[1:10:04] religious community

[1:10:05] will be able to continue

[1:10:06] to serve our

[1:10:07] homeless. Good.

[1:10:50] Special, for

[1:10:51] except that there is

[1:10:52] deviation from

[1:10:53] special

[1:10:54] the use you make

[1:10:55] you ask. Or

[1:10:55] Do you think that this is not

[1:10:57] will threaten

[1:10:57] public safety

[1:10:58] health, morals,

[1:10:59] comfort and

[1:11:00] general welfare

[1:11:01] ?

[1:11:01] No.

[1:11:02] Good. And regarding the question

[1:11:04] public

[1:11:04] health, then during

[1:11:09] 17 years old, what, uh,

[1:11:10] are functioning

[1:11:11] interfaith

[1:11:12] public shelters,

[1:11:13] you follow

[1:11:15] programs for

[1:11:15] preservation and

[1:11:16] promoting cleanliness,

[1:11:17] including the following.

[1:11:19] Right. Each

[1:11:20] the place is being cleaned

[1:11:21] every evening.

[1:11:22] Right.

[1:11:22] There is a mandatory

[1:11:23] procedure, according to

[1:11:24] which guests should

[1:11:24] take a shower

[1:11:25] at least twice

[1:11:26] per week and

[1:11:26] follow

[1:11:27] personal hygiene, and

[1:11:27] also monitor that

[1:11:28] so that their clothes are

[1:11:29] washed. Actually,

[1:11:30] our guests must

[1:11:31] take a shower every day.

[1:11:32] They must walk.

[1:11:33] to Keys to Hope, where

[1:11:34] located

[1:11:35] public showers, and

[1:11:36] Director of Keys to Hope

[1:11:37] sends me every day

[1:11:38] or electronically

[1:11:39] by mail a list of those

[1:11:40] who actually performed

[1:11:42] requirements. We are definitely

[1:11:43] We know who does what.

[1:11:44] And if they are not in

[1:11:45] this list, they definitely won't come.

[1:11:49] And after the guest

[1:11:50] used the dryer

[1:11:51] , Keys to Hope checks

[1:11:52] lint filter.

[1:11:53] You know, I...can't.

[1:11:55] to say that

[1:11:55] is happening. I...Keys to

[1:11:57] Hope. I...I don't...We

[1:11:58] we work with them. I am not

[1:11:59] ...I'm not on theirs

[1:12:00] place...I...I'm too

[1:12:01] I know theirs well.

[1:12:02] protocol. Or

[1:12:03] it would be correct

[1:12:04] the statement that

[1:12:05] interfaith

[1:12:05] activity contributes

[1:12:06] lifestyle,

[1:12:07] including rest

[1:12:08] , correct

[1:12:08] food,

[1:12:09] maintaining cleanliness?

[1:12:10] Absolutely. Absolutely.

[1:12:14] Regarding safety,

[1:12:15] your activities

[1:12:16] religious community...

[1:12:17] Hmm, is that clear?

[1:12:18] installed

[1:12:19] behavior that

[1:12:20] prohibits the use

[1:12:21] alcohol and

[1:12:22] drugs?

[1:12:24] Of course.

[1:12:25] Is it threatening?

[1:12:26] aggressive behavior,

[1:12:27] directed against

[1:12:28] other guests?

[1:12:29] Absolutely.

[1:12:31] And what guests are present?

[1:12:33] at the establishment every night? Or

[1:12:34] they are watching over them

[1:12:35] volunteers or

[1:12:36] control them?

[1:12:37] We work all the time,

[1:12:39] while we're there. We work as volunteers.

[1:12:41] Hmm, even at night when

[1:12:42] Everyone is sleeping, nothing is happening.

[1:12:44] It

[1:12:45] the hardest change. We

[1:12:46] staffed

[1:12:47] staff.

[1:12:49] And is it provided?

[1:12:51] moral

[1:12:51] well-being through

[1:12:55] rules and procedures

[1:12:56] works that

[1:12:57] prohibit certain

[1:12:58] types of behavior and

[1:12:59] substances?

[1:13:00] Absolutely. Absolutely.

[1:13:02] So, they can't

[1:13:03] to carry

[1:13:03] smuggling. We have

[1:13:04] list of things that are

[1:13:05] smuggling. We search them, and, uh,

[1:13:07] if we believe that they

[1:13:09] we can't have this, we

[1:13:10] We're confiscating this. If

[1:13:11] this is something that, in our opinion, may constitute

[1:13:13] danger to our

[1:13:14] guests, we keep

[1:13:15] this is until next time

[1:13:16] in the morning and return them

[1:13:17] next day. We

[1:13:18] necessarily

[1:13:19] we provide

[1:13:20] safe place.

[1:13:21] And does it provide

[1:13:22] certain level

[1:13:23] your comfort

[1:13:24] guests, providing

[1:13:25] shelter above the roof and

[1:13:26] protection from rain,

[1:13:27] snow and bad weather

[1:13:28] during the next

[1:13:29] six months?

[1:13:30] Absolutely. You never

[1:13:31] didn't think 4 inches

[1:13:32] the substrates are as follows

[1:13:33] convenient. Hmm, what

[1:13:37] concerns

[1:13:37] general welfare

[1:13:39] , is food provided

[1:13:40] to your guests?

[1:13:41] So, we get

[1:13:42] donated meals.

[1:13:43] We manage the so-called

[1:13:44] heated kitchen.

[1:13:45] So the food is for us

[1:13:46] sacrifice. Perhaps,

[1:13:47] we will have to them

[1:13:48] to warm up, but,

[1:13:49] most likely, they

[1:13:50] are ready to serve.

[1:13:51] Hmm, our volunteers

[1:13:52] they know for sure, oh

[1:13:52] What time are we?

[1:13:53] serve our dinners.

[1:13:54] They bring them

[1:13:55] in time. We also

[1:13:56] we provide them

[1:13:57] breakfast. Sometimes

[1:13:58] a light breakfast,

[1:13:59] sometimes wonderful

[1:14:00] breakfast. Uh, yes.

[1:14:01] just like we usually do.

[1:14:05] you think that

[1:14:06] if provided

[1:14:07] special permit

[1:14:08] use, then

[1:14:09] the petition is not

[1:14:10] will hinder

[1:14:11] orderly

[1:14:12] development of neighboring

[1:14:13] objects?

[1:14:14] Definitely not.

[1:14:15] Again

[1:14:17] Well, we're already 17 years old.

[1:14:18] We work in that church.

[1:14:19] , and most people

[1:14:20] can tell you,

[1:14:21] that they probably

[1:14:22] didn't even know about

[1:14:24] our existence or

[1:14:25] saw very little

[1:14:26] activities, except

[1:14:27] morning traffic entrance and

[1:14:28] Entrance. Hmm, we definitely

[1:14:29] held on

[1:14:30] unnoticed. You are very

[1:14:32] well remembered. Which

[1:14:33] work schedule?

[1:14:34] We say from 7:00 pm

[1:14:36] until 7:00 am. Our

[1:14:38] volunteers are coming

[1:14:39] at 5:30 in the winter, so

[1:14:40] start cooking

[1:14:41] plot. It's hard to get through.

[1:14:43] past people when they

[1:14:44] standing at the door at

[1:14:45] 5:30 to go in. We can start

[1:14:47] let them in a little

[1:14:48] earlier, but we say

[1:14:49] from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. This can

[1:14:50] be from 6:00 to 7:00, but

[1:14:52] in general, from 7:00 to 7:00 is

[1:14:53] our work schedule,

[1:14:54] full all the time

[1:14:55] personnel. What

[1:14:57] concerns

[1:14:59] using

[1:15:00] safe, withdrawn

[1:15:01] from operation

[1:15:02] territory. There are proper

[1:15:03] utilities

[1:15:05] and access roads that

[1:15:06] leading from Ace Street

[1:15:08] Y, and drainage, that's all.

[1:15:09] Never on the territory

[1:15:10] there were no problems with

[1:15:11] drainage. We have

[1:15:12] many roads around

[1:15:13] of this building. On this

[1:15:14] plot 26

[1:15:15] parking spaces. THERE ARE

[1:15:16] the alley that surrounds it.

[1:15:18] Hmm, that's perfect. She

[1:15:20] really well-equipped

[1:15:20] for what we are looking for, and what are they

[1:15:22] offer.

[1:15:23] And most of your

[1:15:23] guests probably won't

[1:15:24] they go there by car

[1:15:25] .

[1:15:26] Most of them are not

[1:15:27] are traveling. Only a handful.

[1:15:28] And if this petition about

[1:15:30] the deviation will be

[1:15:31] satisfied, or

[1:15:34] you will have some

[1:15:35] support from

[1:15:36] communities regarding

[1:15:37] modernization,

[1:15:38] improvement

[1:15:39] plumbing and other

[1:15:40] infrastructure

[1:15:41] church?

[1:15:41] This is what we are already working on.

[1:15:43] we are working. We know,

[1:15:44] that we are in this

[1:15:45] The building is 17 years old.

[1:15:46] We know that

[1:15:47] need to be done with

[1:15:48] this building. We know what the city

[1:15:50] expects from us from

[1:15:50] this building, and we strive

[1:15:52] adhere to 100%.

[1:15:53] We want

[1:15:53] make sure that everyone

[1:15:55] satisfied with what we do, and we believe,

[1:15:57] that this is correct, and, uh

[1:15:58] , absolutely. So

[1:15:59] community of us

[1:16:00] will support. We

[1:16:01] are sure of this. Hmm,

[1:16:03] we are sure that

[1:16:05] construction

[1:16:05] fundamentally strong

[1:16:06] .

[1:16:07] Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[1:16:09] In fact, we had

[1:16:10] engineer who does everything

[1:16:11] looked around, and, uh, he

[1:16:12] said everything was great,

[1:16:13] ready to work.

[1:16:14] It's amazing that they

[1:16:15] did 100 years ago.

[1:16:17] Do you also believe that on

[1:16:19] there will be no street

[1:16:19] traffic jams as a result

[1:16:21] ...

[1:16:21] Absolutely not.

[1:16:32] And you believe that if

[1:16:33] permission will be granted for

[1:16:35] special

[1:16:35] use, then it

[1:16:37] will meet the conditions

[1:16:38] , set out in

[1:16:39] provisions on

[1:16:40] city zoning

[1:16:41] Michigan City?

[1:16:42] Absolutely. Because it is

[1:16:45] will be public

[1:16:46] center of institutional

[1:16:48] type.

[1:16:48] Of course. Yes, it is.

[1:16:50] right.

[1:16:58] And that's why you are here today.

[1:16:59] in the evening ask for

[1:17:02] special permit

[1:17:03] using. It

[1:17:04] right?

[1:17:05] That's right.

[1:17:06] And you have a presentation,

[1:17:07] which one would you like

[1:17:08] show, right?

[1:17:10] So instead of

[1:17:11] listen to me, everyone,

[1:17:11] nobody wants me

[1:17:12] listen. I ask

[1:17:13] volunteers a whole

[1:17:14] day. They want

[1:17:15] Listen to me. We have

[1:17:16] a short video when

[1:17:17] we show it

[1:17:18] churches, and we love

[1:17:19] show it for

[1:17:20] you to show who

[1:17:21] we, what we are and what we are engaged. So, this is

[1:17:23] three minutes of yours

[1:17:24] time, and

[1:17:25] then...Yes, in

[1:17:26] there is only one of us

[1:17:27] interrupt. Father

[1:17:28] Heavenly.

[1:17:41] Good evening, Father.

[1:17:42] Your name and address?

[1:17:44] Of course. My name is

[1:17:45] Father Kevin Huber. Uh-huh

[1:17:47] , 606 South Woodland-

[1:17:48] Avenue, Michigan City.

[1:17:51] Father Kevin, you

[1:17:52] church pastor

[1:17:53] Queen of All Saints.

[1:17:55] Right.

[1:17:55] And you

[1:17:57] appointed

[1:17:57] administrator

[1:17:58] Church of Saint Mary

[1:18:00] and the church of St.

[1:18:01] Hearts. Is that correct?

[1:18:02] Right.

[1:18:03] And you are here today as

[1:18:04] official

[1:18:05] representative of Dasis

[1:18:06] Gary. Is that correct?

[1:18:08] Right.

[1:18:09] And Dacis Gary's position

[1:18:11] is that

[1:18:12] they will agree

[1:18:13] to hand over the building

[1:18:14] Sacred Heart Church

[1:18:15] interfaith

[1:18:16] community, provided that

[1:18:17] what this advice will provide

[1:18:18] special

[1:18:19] using.

[1:18:21] As far as I understand.

[1:18:22] Yes. We still can

[1:18:42] see.

[1:18:43] You must have

[1:18:43] the opportunity to see. You

[1:18:45] must have

[1:18:45] the opportunity to see.

[1:18:46] Yes, we can. AT,

[1:18:59] Nancy Bracken and

[1:19:00] Dorothy Miller. They

[1:19:01] saw people who

[1:19:02] live on the streets.

[1:19:03] They thought, "We

[1:19:04] should do something about this

[1:19:05] make". So they

[1:19:06] created

[1:19:06] Interfaith

[1:19:07] shelter for

[1:19:08] men who

[1:19:09] actually there is

[1:19:09] PADS program, which

[1:19:10] every night takes turns in

[1:19:11] various basements

[1:19:12] churches.

[1:19:12] We will offer

[1:19:14] eat food twice. We will offer them

[1:19:15] dinner and a small

[1:19:16] breakfast.

[1:19:17] People become

[1:19:17] homeless, and they

[1:19:18] come out of this

[1:19:19] situations. And this

[1:19:20] applies not only to

[1:19:21] people with mental

[1:19:22] disorders or

[1:19:22] dependencies. It

[1:19:23] people they are

[1:19:24] pay alimony.

[1:19:26] They lose.

[1:19:27] work. They don't have

[1:19:28] no income. Some

[1:19:32] had a bad time

[1:19:33] paid work,

[1:19:34] which did not allow them

[1:19:35] to have a little one

[1:19:36] apartment or

[1:19:37] apartment in the area.

[1:19:40] I met with

[1:19:41] Interfaith two years ago. THERE ARE

[1:19:43] -uh, I worked at

[1:19:44] retail trade.

[1:19:45] They received a letter.

[1:19:46] from the corporation, in

[1:19:47] who was informed,

[1:19:48] what will they have to do

[1:19:49] to release a lot

[1:19:50] employees, and, on

[1:19:51] Sorry, I wasn't there.

[1:19:52] so long. So I was

[1:19:54] at the lowest level.

[1:19:56] We are actually

[1:19:57] filling the void

[1:19:58] , which is needed in

[1:19:59] community. Uh, no.

[1:20:00] emergency shelter

[1:20:01] for men, and

[1:20:03] also for women.

[1:20:05] To advance

[1:20:06] forward in life,

[1:20:07] you need to have a base

[1:20:08] activities, and people,

[1:20:09] who live on the streets,

[1:20:10] can't do anything

[1:20:11] make. And that's why

[1:20:14] it is important to have

[1:20:15] shelter.

[1:20:15] I knew that mine

[1:20:16] the situation will be

[1:20:17] temporary. It's simple.

[1:20:19] a temporary thing. You know

[1:20:20] , I know I can't

[1:20:21] let me do this

[1:20:22] upset.

[1:20:23] They feel that

[1:20:24] can come and

[1:20:25] to talk to someone,

[1:20:26] to open up to someone, and

[1:20:27] this person can eat

[1:20:28] help.

[1:20:30] While I was a participant

[1:20:31] programs moved

[1:20:33] persons, uh, Army

[1:20:34] Salvation for that time

[1:20:35] lost several

[1:20:36] their employees

[1:20:37] who worked in

[1:20:38] night shelter.

[1:20:42] They came to me.

[1:20:43] and asked whether

[1:20:44] I am against working for

[1:20:45] them. I tell everyone: no

[1:20:48] Be afraid to take it.

[1:20:49] If you feel

[1:20:51] need to contact

[1:20:53] to interfaith

[1:20:54] community, please

[1:20:55] , please contact me, because this

[1:20:56] will be, um, one of

[1:20:57] the best steps that

[1:20:58] you can do.

[1:20:59] Constant struggle—

[1:21:00] it is a struggle to

[1:21:01] find volunteers,

[1:21:02] who are ready

[1:21:02] dedicate a few

[1:21:03] hours per week. AND

[1:21:04] actually volunteers

[1:21:05] get from this

[1:21:06] much more than

[1:21:07] they suspected,

[1:21:08] when they started, so

[1:21:09] that there are men who

[1:21:10] rely on you,

[1:21:12] and now it's up to you

[1:21:12] will rely

[1:21:13] men and women.

[1:21:14] If I had to do it again, I would

[1:21:16] did it without hesitation.

[1:21:18] I had so much fun.

[1:21:19] I am so much

[1:21:20] learned. This is for

[1:21:23] everyone. If you can

[1:21:25] become a volunteer

[1:21:27] just one evening at

[1:21:28] month, it's worth it.

[1:21:29] It's about

[1:21:30] give honor,

[1:21:31] you know, and that's why I think that everyone

[1:21:33] should become

[1:21:34] volunteer. Don't do it.

[1:21:35] this and sacrifice.

[1:21:36] If you can

[1:21:37] sacrifice,

[1:21:38] donate.

[1:21:38] They can

[1:21:39] donate to us

[1:21:40] goods. We have

[1:21:40] huge list

[1:21:41] necessary things that

[1:21:42] we usually buy,

[1:21:43] that is, things that you, can probably find

[1:21:45] in my pantry at home.

[1:21:46] They can

[1:21:46] donate to us

[1:21:47] funds. Of course,

[1:21:48] public program

[1:21:50] gaskets now

[1:21:51] developed, and

[1:21:51] Harrison is great.

[1:21:52] works because it

[1:21:53] leads us to

[1:21:54] 501c3 position as

[1:21:55] corporation so that we

[1:21:56] could accept

[1:21:57] more donations. I see the difference in

[1:21:59] community. I feel

[1:22:01] what's happening

[1:22:02] difference, and I feel it,

[1:22:04] that in time she will be

[1:22:05] even bigger. In the community

[1:22:08] there will always be a need for

[1:22:09] emergency shelter.

[1:22:11] Uh, regardless of

[1:22:12] whether it's 30 people on

[1:22:13] night, or four people

[1:22:14] for the night, we would like

[1:22:15] to have permanent places

[1:22:16] for men and for

[1:22:18] women. Move

[1:22:19] him in some way

[1:22:19] temporary housing or

[1:22:20] something like that, but you know,

[1:22:22] we are going

[1:22:22] to hang a curtain from a horse

[1:22:24] here. Now we have

[1:22:25] simply extraordinary

[1:22:26] situation.

Michigan City Board of Zoning Appeals September 11, 2018 Part One

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