[0:04] All right, before we actually call the meeting to order, I'd like to acknowledge that our meeting this evening is being held on the unceded ancestral and shared territories of the Stullo people. Our municipality is on the Quantlin, the Camel, Matt, Squee, and Scallots territories. And in particular, it's nice to be able to talk about this this evening in the wake of our pow out. And because we'll be talking about the creators game tonight as well, so a couple of nice connections to indigeneity. So with that, I'll call the meeting to order and ask for

[0:34] a motion to adopt the agenda with the late item that will be under Part 8 and move B number D.

[0:42] Okay, move Councillor Plexa, seconded by Councillor Crawford. Any other changes? All those in favor?

[0:48] Opposed? It's carried. Thank you very much. We begin this evening, as I said a moment ago, with the delegation,

[0:53] Mission Minor LaCrosse Club. We have lots of them from the club here tonight, and thank you for coming.

[0:58] But our speakers tonight specifically are, I guess, Carrie Dunnett and Nicole Cacosco.

[1:03] You guys, oh, well, okay, well, all come up, introduce yourselves.

[1:09] We will not stand on ceremony. We'll let you all present.

[1:17] The Worship and Council, good evening. My name is Nicole Cacosco, and I, along with Carrie Dunnett and Stu Taylor,

[1:24] are here to represent the Mission Minor Lacrosse Club.

[1:26] Thank you for giving us this opportunity to present this evening.

[1:30] MMLC has been providing lacrosse and mission, sorry I haven't lacrosse my voice.

[1:36] Actually, since 1986, the club has seen a steady growth in our numbers, even during

[1:41] COVID, and we offer two playing seasons of lacrosse field from September to February

[1:46] and box from March until July.

[1:49] All clubs face challenges, delivering sports programs.

[1:54] One of our main challenges is lack of floor space.

[1:57] Prior to the beginning of box season, especially so that we can start our tri-outs and evaluations as many larger communities do, they have facilities to do such things.

[2:08] If the growth trend continues in mission, MMLC foresee the lacrosse number to grow by approximately 50 players per year.

[2:16] Each season, based on previous numbers, cedar valley infill project alone is projected to see an increase of approximately 15,000 residents.

[2:25] with this gross look across will quickly grow its ability to remain an all-inclusive sport and we will have to deny kids the opportunity to play.

[2:35] When the Silverdale development comes to fruition for all intents and purposes, the population of mission could double.

[2:42] While the development plan will include recreational facilities, a significant portion of developments may have occurred before construction of these facilities.

[2:50] One solution for this, oops, I forgot that, here we go.

[2:56] One solution for this challenge is to cover the outdoor box or even find the means to

[3:00] facilitate a new outdoor box.

[3:03] MMLC foresee the outdoor box becoming an integral part of the club's ability to have practices

[3:08] and play games and would love the opportunity to explore the option to make the outdoor box

[3:13] a facility in which we can play not just practice.

[3:16] This option also makes it possible to host concerts, trade shows, markets, and make it possible

[3:22] for other sports such as ball hockey to run in a year round setting.

[3:27] This would also expand our lacrosse presence as we are not the only lacrosse users.

[3:31] We gladly share the floor with the Cedar Kinks and would like to expand this to include

[3:36] the Valley Rebels, the junior team that has the rights to missions graduating players.

[3:41] As it stands now, 70% of our practices are cancelled of the outdoor box due to weather.

[3:48] Unfortunately, we are not able to control this.

[3:51] What we can control with the help of community and sponsorship like JBS, the district and

[3:57] other user groups, is the altering of this area and or the addition of a new year-round

[4:05] dry floor space.

[4:07] MMLC would like to see the covered stands, see the area covered, stands, new boards,

[4:13] floor size and made to regulation size, as that box is not.

[4:18] Heat, change rooms, wash rooms, sound system and clocks to be able to host games.

[4:24] We understand that this will not happen overnight, but we are looking for the support to make

[4:28] it happen.

[4:30] MMLC is proud to have in players play at elite levels of lacrosse with Team BC and Team

[4:35] Canada, even move on to the NLL, and in the last five years alone, 10 alumni have received

[4:45] lacrosse scholarships to play collegiate lacrosse in the States.

[4:48] Mission is even home to the first female to ever play at a junior B1 level.

[4:57] Take your it.

[4:58] Thank you.

[4:59] I'll be to do this.

[5:00] Please.

[5:01] Now, there's three other communities in the Greater Vancouver area have undertaken similar

[5:10] projects to this.

[5:13] The first one, and obviously the most expensive being the Coquitlam Forum.

[5:17] For those who got familiar with that particular project, it was built on the site of the

[5:21] old Chimo Pool.

[5:23] Now the old Chimo Pool was demolished and the services left in place to facilitate this

[5:30] new structure.

[5:31] The cost in 2015 of this particular structure was 3.9 mil, but keep in mind all the prep was done, all the load was done, power, water, sewage, and all the infrastructure were already in place.

[5:48] Now the forum, I don't know for those that have been there before, it is used on a constant base by multitude of user groups.

[5:56] pickleball, ball hockey, the cross, community events, it's served as a primary

[6:03] COVID clinic for the city of Quitlam. So I mean that it's just facility

[6:08] that is used constantly. The second comparable being the latest one, the George

[6:15] Preston outdoor box. This box is built adjacent to the existing George Preston

[6:21] Rec Center. The advantage there, once again, all the infrastructure was already in place.

[6:28] They were able to piggyback change rooms, piggyback lighting, power, water requirements.

[6:33] Now this particular one, as you can notice, polished concrete floor, which is important for gameplay,

[6:39] and for practices. Unfortunately with the asphalt surface, that poses quite a safety concern,

[6:45] especially to the younger groups as they're learning. Other advantageers,

[6:48] As you can see, LED lighting, score clocks, 32nd clocks, covered stands, he did a true 11-month year facility.

[7:01] We all know the township of Langley, their rec facilities, top drawer, predominantly developer funded through developer funded and a lieu of park space.

[7:14] The third example would be the West Hill Sports Box at Port Moody.

[7:18] Port Moody being the closest comparison to mission in terms of population size.

[7:25] The West Hill Box for those of you that are unaware of the area,

[7:29] basically built adjacent to the refinery at the foot of Burndy Mountain in Port Moody.

[7:35] The box at that particular time went through the rehabilitation,

[7:40] very similar to ours at the time, current vintage,

[7:43] the same floor, the same board, the same structure of a stance.

[7:48] That facility received an upgrade at a cost of in 2012, I want to see off top of head.

[7:55] I apologize for not knowing of 1.6 mil.

[7:58] $800,000 of that was covered by a grant from the Province of BC, the Ministry of Sports and Culture.

[8:06] Once again, this particular space, polished concrete floor, LED lighting, time control

[8:14] lighting, similar to what we have the sports park, so the user groups are paying the power

[8:18] cost, not the district, and most importantly, locked gate access, remote gate locked access.

[8:26] So very similar to the sports park, which in lights on, you get your code, the renting

[8:30] a brand new facility, all three boxes, all three different visions for what their particular community wanted.

[8:42] Thank you very much.

[8:45] Your worshiping council, what we represent mission minor lacrosse, such an updated facility would provide benefit to the entire community.

[8:53] One of these many benefits is the ability to host tournaments.

[8:56] This would bring a minimum of teams to mission based on two tiers with seven away teams per tier.

[9:02] that's 280 families coming to mission they will all gas up they will all go to

[9:07] restaurants and some of them will even stay at our hotels think about what we all

[9:12] spend when we go away to a tournament even if it's $150 per family which we

[9:17] think is kind of low that's $42,000 injected into our community just in one

[9:23] weekend the construction alone would be an added benefit to the community as well

[9:29] Many, if not all, of this construction can be facilitated right here in mission, from

[9:34] the steel to the electrical to the laborers.

[9:37] This means keeping our mission families earning while also consuming mission commerce.

[9:42] It's a win-win.

[9:44] At the cost of real estate rises, more young families are moving to mission and enjoying

[9:50] the lifestyle that mission has to offer.

[9:52] Part of this lifestyle includes district-provided facilities, recreation, and sports opportunities,

[9:57] provided by volunteer groups, such as us.

[10:01] The greatest fear of any association is to have to say no to any child or any athlete.

[10:06] It is our hope that the support of the council, the community, and sponsors that a new upgraded facility can be constructed and help provide recreational opportunities to all.

[10:16] Your worship and council, we thank you for your time, mission lacrosse, acknowledges that it plays on the unceded ancestral lands of the Stolo people.

[10:24] Thank you.

[10:25] Thank you very much, Kerry.

[10:27] I will just quickly advise our delegates that Council is actually meeting on July 18.

[10:33] That is that correct, Mr. Stewart, to talk capital projects and your timing is good because part

[10:39] of the conversation will largely be about what do we need as a growing community around parks and

[10:44] recreation facilities.

[10:45] So that's where we would likely talk about this in the context of larger, the larger picture of

[10:51] facilities, but I wanted to turn to others on council and see if they had any questions

[10:55] or comments. Councilor Gild and Councillor Plesson.

[10:58] Thank you, Mayor Horn. Thank you so much for the delegates

[11:02] for presenting. 74% is that cancelled event? Wow, that's a large number. I think like

[11:10] Mayor Horn said, we'll have the discussion on the 18th, but I do support it. I do like

[11:15] that you guys present to us with pictures because I think it's important to have a year

[11:20] around a year-round facility, but also it serves as a multi-use purpose for entertainment.

[11:26] So I appreciate that 100% support this.

[11:29] Thank you, Councillor Plesson.

[11:31] Thank you and do appreciate the presentation was well done.

[11:34] I appreciate the fact that you've outlined two or three other communities have done the

[11:39] same thing.

[11:40] And I also recognize I think that when you've indicated that more and more families are moving

[11:44] into mission as we see, as I see, with grandchildren and more and more kids in the playgrounds.

[11:48] So as I grow up, they're going to be looking for these active sports to be participated.

[11:52] And I wanted to know, I know that you've indicated that you lose a lot of your time due to the weather.

[11:57] And that's unfortunate, there's weather for ever changing and is a problem in this community, like many other communities.

[12:02] You do have opportunity to use leads in when it's not used for ice hockey, correct?

[12:07] And that's off season, I guess for-

[12:09] Yeah, he doesn't start getting removed in the North Arena until third week of March.

[12:17] So when our season is supposed to start, usually the second Monday of April,

[12:23] we have just gotten in there with the day or two to spare.

[12:27] I know what I want to do.

[12:27] What typically has happened is that the club has had to rent space in other communities

[12:32] and run in the Ag Rec Building in Abbotsford, for example.

[12:36] We can't do it, we'll call it.

[12:37] Right, and I do, because I know that at one point a number of years ago, we were looking

[12:42] to extending the hockey season by couple weeks, which was an overlap with that very

[12:46] situation. Do I have a floor time for yourselves? I do support you. I think that it's as indicated, we're going to have this conversation, and certainly I think there's a growing need in our communities, we see more and more young people in the community, but I was going to ask you a question of the camera, it wasn't open, they said track me, but yeah, no, I do appreciate. I think it's important that we continue to move forward. I think our current court, as you said, it's aged in a sense, and it's going back the one you missed important move, same age and structure of time, and so certainly I can see that

[13:15] the need to do something more than we've done now, and it's more than time, I think, as

[13:19] we're growing population goes forward.

[13:22] Thank you.

[13:22] I'll just add something to Councillor Plyck as just to clarify.

[13:26] Hockey wasn't extended by a couple of weeks.

[13:28] It was, in fact, Ms. Nicole and I were both on the board of LaCrosse when Councillor

[13:35] Attenham was asked to extend it essentially for almost the entire year, except for one month

[13:41] of when it's changed out.

[13:42] And that the time before that lacrosse did have access to both the north and south

[13:49] arenas, and that has significantly impacted availability.

[13:52] So, in fact, as the population has grown, the floor space has diminished.

[13:58] And so, that's part of the challenge.

[14:00] And so, it is important that hockey and ice users, including figures getting

[14:04] and speed skating, are getting a chance to use the ice.

[14:08] but the effect is lacrosse uses the floor about two to three months out of the year,

[14:14] and that's been diminished for a lot of sufficient reasons.

[14:16] Do you want to add something to that?

[14:17] I could just make one point that Councillor Gill and Councillor Plessis were both mentioning

[14:22] regarding the usage of the space and the rainy conditions.

[14:26] I know you're more than aware of your worship, but for those that don't know, lacrosse

[14:32] because it's currently an asphalt-based surface, as soon as that water hits it,

[14:38] that bitchman creates that very slick surface.

[14:41] And even if it is a very minimal rainfall, even if there's any rain in the forecast,

[14:46] we're forced to cancel practices just because of the safety issue,

[14:50] especially to the younger children.

[14:52] One or two raindrops, and that turns into, we must be playing on the south skating rink.

[14:57] What I think I would add is

[15:00] It's not a legal surface right now for games, whereas the surface that you saw in the three examples would be because it's got a concrete floor. And the boards, the correct dimensions, the facility we have right now is aging to the point where it's dangerous to go out and play with any kind of real contact because if you go and you look there, the seams of the boards really are not safe. You would end up getting splinters and so forth. So it has very limited usage even in good weather.

[15:29] right now. It's good for kids and that's about all. Councilor Hamilton.

[15:33] Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for your presentation. I'm just looking at your registration numbers

[15:36] that you handed out to us. And I probably know the answer, but there's been a bit of a decline.

[15:41] And is that due to COVID that you would say that it looks like it's up swing again now?

[15:46] Yes. No, the 2020 we couldn't offer a box season at all because nobody was allowed to be inside.

[15:53] So we had to offer a field season. And so we had a bit of one in game started later on.

[15:59] during that season for a short period.

[16:02] And then we had our first box season in 2021,

[16:06] but a lot of people have joined other things by that time.

[16:10] And then this year, they're back again.

[16:12] And as you can well imagine, it's our younger age groups

[16:16] that are really growing.

[16:18] As the young families start to move to mission

[16:19] and embracing what this community has to offer,

[16:23] it is those young families that are joining our organization.

[16:26] We are talking kids from four years old to ten years old, or the divisions that are really driving our growth right now.

[16:35] Thank you.

[16:37] Ms. Russell, do we have either of the other two Councillors online now?

[16:40] They're here.

[16:41] Okay, so perhaps we can take the demons to the presentation of the board, and I can see if they have any questions.

[16:47] Councillor Harar, Councillor Davies, sorry that you were having technical difficulties.

[16:51] Do you have any questions for our guests?

[16:53] I'll go first, I'll get Mark here.

[16:55] I'll pass it on to you.

[16:56] So yeah, to, to Nicole, when is, is the cross,

[17:00] is the cross taught in our public school system at all?

[17:04] It is taught by our ex-president, Jeff McCauley,

[17:08] at Hatsick Elementary School,

[17:10] but it's more of the version of the cross, called inter-cross.

[17:14] The hard plastic stick.

[17:16] Hard plastic stick, hard plastic ball.

[17:18] It's just an introductory way of getting kids

[17:20] aware of the game.

[17:21] And we have Academy at MSS which doesn't have its own, they're only a junior and

[17:32] of junior varsity and senior varsity teams so they have no, there's no area for the younger

[17:38] kids at the school level.

[17:41] I actually hadn't even thought about the fact that Academy would also be able to use the

[17:45] facility, the same way as hockey academy uses the rink during the weekdays.

[17:49] Great.

[17:49] This is bad.

[17:50] Good House of Herard.

[17:51] Did that answer your question?

[17:53] Yes.

[17:53] Thank you so much, Mayor.

[17:55] And thank you, Nicole.

[17:56] And thanks to your delegation.

[17:58] Thank you.

[17:59] Councillor Davies, any questions?

[18:01] No, no questions.

[18:01] I just comment that my kids also played a part of the forum.

[18:04] It's a fantastic location, and you really hit off all the things that we need to have.

[18:11] This is the floor size, the change rooms, the eat.

[18:13] the ability to play all your rounds. So, they're definitely looking forward to discussing this with Council

[18:19] budget deliberation time. Thank you.

[18:21] Thank you. I guess my final comments would be that like the Poirier Forum, it's not perfect

[18:25] when you do it this way. The Poirier Forum, for example, doesn't have showers. It's just

[18:28] about everything else, but it's not well suited to the senior guys, because they're sweatier.

[18:33] But that's okay, because it takes pressure off the facility. So, I wanted to just point to

[18:37] something you said earlier that I thought was good, which is that it doesn't necessarily

[18:40] They have to all be built at one time and there's a way of phasing.

[18:43] So I think that's a brilliant thing to observe and maybe part of how we look at it from a capital perspective.

[18:50] Thank you very, very much.

[18:51] We appreciate the delegation.

[18:53] I just want to say, take a note to the younger folks that I know, fairly recent graduates of Mission Monitor LaCrosse who are coming back and coaching as well.

[19:02] And it genuinely means a lot that some of us older parts are the only ones who do enough.

[19:08] So, appreciate that. Thanks so much. Thank you.

[19:11] Thank you very much.

[19:13] Congratulations on your- your players are- they're competing. And scholars are coming.

[19:17] Really taking off.

[19:18] Yeah, thank you.

[19:19] Thank you.

[19:20] So, moving on next to part four proclamations, we do have a proclamation proposed by the Special Olympics

[19:27] for Global Week of Inclusion.

[19:28] Move to Counselor Plekka, Second Head Counselor Hamilton.

[19:31] Comments or questions?

[19:32] Seeing that, I'll call the question.

[19:34] Those in favor?

[19:35] Opposed?

[19:35] it's carried. Counselors Harar and Davies, I can't see you at the same time as we have the agenda up.

[19:41] If you'd like to speak or move, please say your last name so that I know.

[19:45] Gentlemen, you're welcome to leave. Thank you. Don't feel like you have to hang around.

[19:50] Thank you. So we'll move on then to public hearings. So we have two this evening and I'll begin by

[19:56] reading the introductory script. So this public hearing or these public hearings are being convened

[20:02] to pursue it to Section 464, the local government act,

[20:05] in order to consider proposed bylaws listed

[20:07] on tonight's agenda.

[20:09] Copies of the relevant staff reports

[20:10] and related information,

[20:12] respecting the subject amendment bylaws,

[20:14] have been available for public examination

[20:16] on the City of Mission website

[20:18] as part of the public hearing agenda.

[20:20] Copies of written submissions for each application

[20:22] received by the submission deadline

[20:24] have been distributed to members of council

[20:26] and are available for public viewing

[20:28] on the City of Mission website.

[20:29] At this public hearing, all persons who consider their interest in property affected by a proposed

[20:34] by-law shall be given an opportunity to be heard on matters contained within the by-law.

[20:39] This meeting is being recorded and broadcast live on our website.

[20:43] The recording and the written minutes of the meeting will be posted to the city's website.

[20:48] Speakers are able to provide comments and ask questions via in-person attendance or by Zoom,

[20:53] either by using a webcam and speaker or by phone using the instructions in the Zoom email invitation.

[20:59] If you are watching the meeting through our usual website link and are not participating by Zoom,

[21:04] please know that there is a 45-second delay between the live meeting and the web broadcast.

[21:10] I'll be allowing long pauses between speakers to ensure everyone is heard.

[21:14] I ask for everyone's patience in this regard.

[21:17] Each public hearing item will begin with a brief introduction by a staff member

[21:20] followed by a summary of any written submissions received.

[21:24] I'll then open the floor to the public.

[21:26] Firstly, to those who are online with us virtually,

[21:29] and then to participants in the chamber.

[21:31] Once acknowledged, each speaker must give their name

[21:33] and civic address for the record.

[21:35] Each speaker will be allocated five minutes to make comments.

[21:38] If a speaker exceeds this amount of time,

[21:40] they may be asked to conclude or muted.

[21:42] After all others have been heard,

[21:44] those that wish to speak for a second time

[21:46] will be afforded the opportunity to do so,

[21:48] So provided that new information is brought forward.

[21:51] Members of Council may ask clarification questions of the person after they have spoken.

[21:55] However, the main function of Council members this evening is to listen to the views of the public and not to engage in debate.

[22:02] No presentations or submissions will be received by Council on any application after the public hearing for that application has been closed.

[22:10] Lastly, when a public hearing for an item has been closed, the public hearing will continue with the next item on the agenda.

[22:15] we have two this evening. Council may consider third reading of any of the

[22:20] subject bylaws later this evening. All right and with that we'll start off with

[22:26] zoning-emending bylaws 6098 just moved it just as I was reading it off the

[22:31] screen. 6098-2022-5949 this is for the address 7680 Heard Street and so we'll

[22:38] start off with Mr. Pueblo.

[22:46] Public hearing is for an application submitted by

[22:48] every tech engineering to rezone the property located at 7680 herd street from the urban resident

[22:53] until 558 zone to the multi-unit townhouse one zone to allow for a three lot subdivision.

[23:04] Property fronts onto herd street and each proposed lot will have access from the existing lane which

[23:09] will be upgraded as part of the subdivision requirements.

[23:16] Overall, through zoning is consistent with a

[23:18] fish community plan and each proposed lot exceeds the minimum requirements that proposed MR1 zone.

[23:29] Graph plan of subdivision shows the three lots that are proposed and the and notes the lanes and the upgrades required to both lanes and herd street.

[23:46] Sled shows the conceptual elevations of the proposed row houses of note the maximum height for row houses is 11 meters.

[23:55] The proposed height of these conceptual drawings is 10.7 meters.

[24:05] The conceptual site plan shows in the blue are boxes that show the building envelopes, the green boxes near the rear are the proposed garages, two car garages there, and then still have enough room for a two car parking pad outside the garage.

[24:25] And that concludes the presentation.

[24:26] Mr. Pueblo, Ms. Russell, can you summarize any correspondence we received on this particular

[24:32] by-law?

[24:33] No written submissions received, Mayor Horn.

[24:35] Thank you very much.

[24:36] And so we'll start by asking members of the public who may be attending online if they

[24:40] would like to speak on this by-law.

[24:42] If so, please use the raise hand function and staff will let us know if you are prepared

[24:47] to speak.

[24:53] Raise hands, Mayor Horn.

[24:55] Thank you.

[24:56] And we'll go for the first time to chambers and ask if anybody in chambers wishes to speak

[25:00] to this particular item. If so, please approach the microphone, give your name and address,

[25:05] and the floor will be yours.

[25:08] Being nobody approaching the microphone will go for a second time

[25:11] to Ms. Russell. Ms. Russell, is there anybody who's raising their hand online?

[25:19] Race dance. Thank you, and again, I'll ask in chambers of anybody wishes to speak to this one.

[25:24] Not a lot of people here this evening, so I don't have to wait terribly long. A third and final

[25:30] time on this one, Ms. Russell, if you are online and wish to speak to this, this will be your final

[25:35] call. Please raise your hand if you'd like to speak to this one.

[25:42] Raise your hand.

[25:43] And for a third and final time in chambers, is there anybody who would like to speak on this particular

[25:48] by-law? Seeing nobody approaching the microphone, I'll declare that this particular

[25:53] public hearing is closed and move on to the next one, which will be at, let me get my

[26:00] members here. This is for property at 32625 Cherry Avenue in the by-law

[26:07] 6104-2022-5949, and Mr. Pablo, the floor is yours.

[26:14] The public hearing is for an application submitted by D&D Design to rezone the property located at 32625 Cherry Avenue from the suburban 20 zone to the urban residential 465 secondary dwelling zone to facilitate a four lot subdivision with the potential for secondary dwellings on each lot.

[26:33] Grant

[26:38] property, fronts, cherry avenue, and stokes avenue to the north.

[26:49] Proposed zoning to the Urban Compact 465 zone is consistent with the Urban Compact designation in the Affish Community Plan.

[26:59] The two proposed loss with front onto stokes and two of the proposed loss with front onto stokes and two with front onto cherry with access being from the extension of the certain lane.

[27:11] This

[27:16] is the draft plan of subdivision.

[27:18] The proposed lots all are exceed.

[27:22] The UC 465 secondary dwelling zone, no variance as are being proposed.

[27:27] You'll note road dedication requirements along stokes and

[27:31] then the continuation of the certain lane.

[27:36] That concludes the presentation.

[27:38] Thank you very much, Mr. Pablo.

[27:40] Ms. Russell, can you summarize any correspondence we received on this one, please?

[27:45] The written submissions received.

[27:47] Thank you very much and we'll go to the public then.

[27:50] Anybody who is online and wishes to speak to the proposed by-law amendment, please use your raise hand function to let our staff know so that you can be asked to speak.

[28:06] Race Tans.

[28:07] Thank you very much.

[28:08] I'll ask here in chambers for the first time if there's anybody who wishes to speak on this matter.

[28:14] Seeing nobody come to the microphone, I'll ask for a second time to our corporate officer for the online participants.

[28:21] If you wish to speak, please raise your hand.

[28:27] Thank you for a second time here in Chambers, is there anybody who wishes to speak on this matter?

[28:39] Yes, good day, it's Earl Bavitch, and I guess after subdivision what's the proposed green

[28:45] space that's going to be left over, like what's, as a percentage?

[28:48] Last staff, Mr. Pueblo, can you address how Parkland or green space will be identified in this

[28:55] one?

[29:00] Through the subdivision, Parkland requirement would be required as cash in lieu.

[29:06] There would be no Parkland dedicated as part of this process.

[29:10] Thank you, so the 5% of the value of the application goes into a fund that is used to purchase Park elsewhere.

[29:19] Do we know how much, what's the percentage of lawns that be left over after driveways and the building sites?

[29:26] Mr. Pueblo, do we have a sense of how much of what percentage of the lot is going to be used?

[29:31] Just by the building envelope?

[29:35] The maximum lot coverage is dictated by the UC 465 zone and the maximum amount of impermeable surfaces is also dictated in the UC 465 zones.

[29:46] I'd have to look them up and off the top of my head.

[29:49] There are setbacks and there is a maximum coverage, so it's consistent with the rest of our zoning in the city.

[29:54] And so these are fairly customary lots for a Cedar Valley.

[30:00] And as you said, they're a little larger than actually is mandated, I would just add.

[30:05] So then my comment would be similar to what I, I, I, it's the state most times when I come here, is that I'd rather see taller buildings and I'd rather see more green spaces on every property.

[30:14] It's still accommodate the same number of families or even more families.

[30:17] We've got to be a little proactive with regards to density and going with higher spaces and more green spaces.

[30:26] Again, that's my comment. Thank you.

[30:27] Thank you very much, Mr. Babbage.

[30:31] For a third and final time, is there anybody online who would like to participate?

[30:35] This is your last call if you're online.

[30:37] Please use the raise hand function if you would like to speak.

[30:42] Raise hands.

[30:43] For a third and final time here in Chambers, is there anybody from the public that would like

[30:47] to speak in person?

[30:48] If so, please approach the microphone.

[30:51] Seeing nobody approach the microphone, I'll declare this public hearing closed, and we will

[30:56] have the opportunity to address these matters later on under the by-law section of the agenda.

[31:00] Thank you very much.

[31:01] We now need a resolution to resolve into the committee of the whole moved by Councillor Crawford seconded by Councillor Hamilton

[31:06] I'll call the question all those in favour

[31:08] The post we are now in committee and we'll start off with the verbal item from our manager of social development

[31:15] Ms. Hargraves you can sit there if you want to just use the microphone

[31:25] Good evening everyone

[31:27] I'm here tonight to request council support

[31:31] specifically by way of a resolution for our application to a current UBCM grant

[31:37] opportunity through the Community Emergency Preparedness Fund. Specifically it's

[31:42] called the Extreme Heat Risk Mapping Assessment and Planning Grant. It's in the

[31:47] amount of $30,000 and this grant is in partnership with Emergency Social Services

[31:53] ESS for three specific deliverables. The first being Extreme Heat Risk Mapping of

[32:00] all of mission but with a special focus on our pockets where we have enhanced vulnerability.

[32:08] So up until now in mission we typically have five cooling centers that we open during periods

[32:13] of extreme heat where we offer cold water and air-conditioned spaces.

[32:18] So those are typically the Mission Leisure Center, the Friendship Center, Hope Central, Haven

[32:23] and the Hollow and the Mission Library.

[32:25] So up until last summer that was close to adequate but we now know we're

[32:33] facing very different weather systems and the pressure on municipalities to

[32:37] do more has drastically increased from last year. So this grant is newly

[32:42] available for municipalities to do just that. So extreme heat risk mapping would

[32:47] give us the ability to do some preventative work and literally map out our more

[32:52] vulnerable pockets and buildings and spaces in mission.

[32:55] The second deliverable is then looking at risk assessments.

[32:59] So where are our most concerning pockets and what do we need to do to be preventative around those?

[33:05] And our third deliverable would be around the extreme heat response planning.

[33:09] So about a month ago, we pulled together what we're calling our interagency extreme heat planning table.

[33:15] Made up of first responders, all of our social services admission,

[33:18] in Fraser Health, the hospital, to start having those conversations around what are people

[33:23] doing, what are they concerned about, and how do we get ahead of this summer, and the

[33:28] next heat wave specifically, and what can we do as partners.

[33:32] So two of the big partners that have stepped forward, one is Lecamel First Nation, who will

[33:38] be submitting this grant in partnership with us, as well as the School of Land Use and Environmental

[33:44] mental change at UFV who is looking at working very closely with us in applying for this money.

[33:51] So very briefly, that's what this grant would do.

[33:54] And that budget would go towards student honorariums, faculty honorariums between all of those partners around continuing this collaborative table with those partners in developing those three deliverables.

[34:06] Thank you. So there is a motion on the board for those who have anybody who wishes to make it.

[34:12] I guess Councillor Gilles seconded by Councillor Placas, comments or questions? Councillor Gilles.

[34:18] Thank you, Mayor Horn. I do fully support it. The question I do have is for the cooling centers, are they currently open now?

[34:26] The cooling centers will only open when temperatures hit about 25 to 28 or over.

[34:32] We are receiving different messages from the provincial government around when to open them versus the federal government, so we will

[34:39] Need to have one temperature going forward. It tends to be around the 28 degree mark

[34:44] And then absolutely those five areas will be open when we hit those marks

[34:48] My guess is that will be communicated through our social media our websites and so forth. Okay, thank you

[34:56] I think through helping agencies as well, like Mash, for example.

[35:01] Councillor Pelleckis, did you have a comment?

[35:03] Yes, move on.

[35:04] I'm fully support this, and I guess I would just simply say I'm glad to see our staff are trying to respond.

[35:08] I know these heat events happened last year, but in the pace of government, where you're waiting for grants

[35:14] and funding opportunities to even be created, it can be difficult to get things done in a timely fashion.

[35:19] So the fact that this is a verbal this evening is because of the fact that we're trying to be agile,

[35:23] And I would anticipate that there will be more of these types of applications in the coming months and years as we try to think ahead.

[35:30] For example, on the question of cooling centers, one of the challenges is that people may have to expose themselves to rather extraordinary heat to get to a cooling center.

[35:39] And given some of the challenges we have with transit, especially through the month of August, as we heard recently from Mr. Ringma, it can be risky to go out, not know if your bus is going to actually come, especially when it's expected.

[35:51] And also, the fact is as well, and I've spoken with other mayors around the province

[35:55] about this.

[35:56] The challenge of a cooling center closing in the evening when it takes most of the evening

[36:00] and sometimes it doesn't even matter that it's evening for it to get cool enough for people

[36:04] to go home.

[36:05] And so there are literally needs for us, in some cases, to think of this almost the way we

[36:09] do with extreme cold, where we're ready to take people overnight.

[36:13] The final comment I'll make is that this is not just hitting people who we might think

[36:17] of as an entrenched poverty.

[36:19] This is helping, this is hitting people who live in typical single-family homes,

[36:24] elders who may not have the resilience to deal with the heat and simply don't have the budget to go out

[36:31] and buy an air-conditioning unit or a heat pump for their home.

[36:36] So, anticipate that this is the first of many times that we'll be having this conversation.

[36:41] With that, we'll call the question all those in favor, opposed, it's carried.

[36:45] Councillors Harrier and Davies, because I can't see you, if you're opposed, please state that

[36:49] you're opposed so that I can take note of the vote. Otherwise, I will assume that you're

[36:53] voting with, uh, voting in support. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Hargraves. All right, so

[36:59] let's move then to the next item, which is the Waterfront Revitalization Master Plan

[37:04] and the Corporate Administration. Page 41, moved by Councillor Plessis. Seconded, oh, we

[37:09] don't need a seconder. I asked for a seconder in that last one. That cost me a dollar.

[37:13] Oh, I want to say it.

[37:15] Oh, nuts.

[37:17] Hey, guess what, Councillor Plex is like,

[37:18] give you back your door.

[37:20] All right, so any comments or questions on this one?

[37:24] Councillor Gill.

[37:27] Thank you, Mayor Horn.

[37:29] I guess my question is, if this moves forward,

[37:32] this will go to stay cold.

[37:34] There is an communicate decision that was made.

[37:37] But in part of that communications,

[37:39] I know we touched a little bit about flexibility

[37:42] as long as the principles are protected in the plan.

[37:44] Will that be part of the communications as well?

[37:48] Through the Mr. Crawford I think, Stacey are you handling this one or do we have, oh there's Gerald, I can see you back there, who's going to handle this one?

[37:59] Okay, go ahead.

[38:01] So, through the deputy CEO, yes Councillor Gail, the principal flexibility will always remain as part of this plan.

[38:11] Thank you.

[38:11] Thank you very much Councillor Hamilton.

[38:13] Thank you, Mayor Horn.

[38:15] I'm pleased to see in the under the updates that it was recognized with the mission dikes

[38:21] that they had to respond to the recent atmospheric river event, and which just again speaks

[38:27] to the flexibility of the document, and that it is a living document, and I'm sure we'll

[38:31] see more of that as we progress through this plan, but that was important to me to see that.

[38:38] Thank you very much.

[38:39] Anybody else? Okay, well, we've heard lots about this one recently, so I am not surprised

[38:45] that most of the discussion has happened. We'll call the question, all those in favor? Opposed?

[38:51] Councillor Harar, that was you. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

[38:54] Okay, thank you, so the matter carries by a 6-1 vote. Thank you. All right, so we can move

[39:00] now on to item 8b. Here we are being asked for a letter of approval and principle, and we

[39:07] We do have our director of finance here, if there are any questions, on page 45 of the agenda.

[39:14] Motion is in order, Councillor Plexus still moves. Any comments or questions?

[39:19] Seeing none, I'll call the question.

[39:20] Oh, Councillor, I'm sorry, Councillor Plexus, I didn't see you there then.

[39:23] I'll go to just a quick question, and I do.

[39:26] Looking at it, obviously, we are with the face increases.

[39:30] We're looking at a potential tax increase in the next two years, or 1.8% something to think about.

[39:36] And also the question I had was to do with a conversation that took place was I wasn't able to attend a number of weeks back in regards to the RCMP because some of their communities were asking for the government to pay the new wage that were given the RCMP we had put aside money for it, other communities were struggling with that, where did that end up in the end of the day did they get some reconsideration of the federal government?

[39:59] It's still being, well, carry can answer that, it hasn't been resolved.

[40:03] Yes, it has not been resolved.

[40:05] It is still a waiting to get final decision from the Federal Government.

[40:08] We have kept some money aside to be able to fund that.

[40:13] To the best of our knowledge, we have sufficient funds in order to cover any wage increases that it's going to be retroactive.

[40:20] I'd like to add to that answer being how I've sat through two recent UBC mayor's committee meetings on this subject.

[40:27] I'll speak about a couple other things that came out of that.

[40:29] But right now, the federal government has committed to holding off on invoicing provincial governments.

[40:35] They had initially decided to hold off for May and then they became aware they didn't understand the budget cycle of BC municipalities and

[40:42] understand that even a June invoicing would affect budgeting adversely.

[40:47] I think that there has been a singular voice from UBCM's mayors in saying that the expectation is that the government should fund the change.

[40:56] and the retro. However, we still don't know the answer. I would describe the response we've

[41:02] received at the staff level, at the just deputy minister level of being receptive and empathic.

[41:11] But we don't know that will mean. And if we are able to receive something back from the federal

[41:18] government to pay for that, then we will be in a better position than the vast majority of communities.

[41:23] where it has really hit communities, is those communities that are small, or even worse, the ones that are on the threshold between small and I think it's 5,000 people that suddenly moves you into a whole new realm of sharing the funds and some of them are in that position.

[41:41] So, there's lots there to still be had. I'll speak more of those meetings afterwards, but I'll go to Councilor Gill, I think was the other hand I saw before.

[41:48] I think you, Mayor Horn, I guess my question is more about the province and where they are with updating are coming to the table with our provincial officers.

[42:00] I know we haven't got an update in capacity from them for at least over 10 years.

[42:07] So for the provincial government, we do have a request in for the fourth I think year in a row, but maybe more to the Mr.

[42:15] of Catholic Catholic to the government to ask for an augmentation of our provincial officer

[42:20] compliment and I think we're waiting for an answer.

[42:22] Yeah, it's a pretty common request from the city of Michigan to augment those provincial

[42:26] officers that are based out of our detachment so.

[42:30] It's been supported by the camel that we asked for that because they are part of that

[42:34] decommon island community.

[42:36] Right now what's happening is that we are actually having some of our local municipal officers,

[42:41] having to attend to emergencies out in that area, and really, it would be much nicer simply to have a more fair distribution of that time, and we've spoken as a voice, and we'll do so again at UBCM if we don't see an announcement in the summer.

[42:56] Thank you.

[42:58] I'll add some comments quickly again, updating. I'll use this as an opportunity to update the two recent meetings that mayors have had around the subject of RCMP issues.

[43:06] I know that Councillor Hamilton and I have both heard about this recently as well.

[43:11] There are a number of things coming down the pike that will affect the cost of policing

[43:16] for RCMP communities.

[43:18] One of them was the CRTC decision and I'm going to repeat that it was not an RCMP decision.

[43:23] It was the CRTC's decision to expand 911 capacity so that people will be able ultimately

[43:30] to text, people will be able to have their location in a building identified using a sort of triangulation technology.

[43:39] So if you're on a multi-story building, it'll know.

[43:43] But the cost of that will be quite significant, and there's a bit of a hidden cost that we heard of,

[43:48] which is that a number right now, if you accidentally dial 911 and you immediately realize it and hang up.

[43:54] The system doesn't register it and a police officer does not go to the site, but that will change.

[43:59] So not only will the system itself cost more, but anything less than, I think, anything longer than a 0.25 second ring through will result in a police officer going to the location.

[44:11] And so that will be in itself an expense of things.

[44:14] So that's a concern, body worn cameras and new technologies such as pads and so forth, body armor, insurance stickers, the removal of insurance stickers from police car, from license plates.

[44:29] States may end up causing cities to have to have better license plate scanners.

[44:34] All of these things are things that are being generated at the federal level or at other

[44:39] branches of government, and we have been a long advocate for more of a rule for the municipal

[44:45] voice.

[44:45] And so it's a challenge that will continue to be with us.

[44:49] When I speak with my colleagues from around the province, we're interested in further initiatives

[44:54] just like car 67 and so forth, but we can't even have conversations about those types of

[45:00] Outreach type programs that meet our community need because we're sort of having to constantly deal with things that are coming from another level of government. I'm not suggesting that we should get a rid of the system or anything radical, but I think it will be a constant battle for us as a community to advocate for a more balanced voice in policing. While we're supportive of the RCMP, I think we also need to keep it in check with our other expenditures.

[45:29] Any other comments from members of Council, from either of the Councillors who are attending virtually?

[45:34] Do you have any comments?

[45:37] Hearing none?

[45:38] Okay.

[45:39] I'll call the question, then, all those in favour?

[45:41] Opposed?

[45:42] It's carried.

[45:43] Unanimously.

[45:44] Thank you very much, Ms. Ancon.

[45:46] All right.

[45:47] And we will move then to the dedication of 29485 done to the avenue as a park, moved by

[45:55] Councillor Hamilton and I just have what asked for a seconder. Any comments or questions

[46:00] for staff? Councillor Plessas?

[46:02] It's curious now that we've got this dedicated to Park which is exciting news. Is there

[46:07] going to be any indication in the next capital budget expenses going towards improving that

[46:13] site like Park Signager? Fencing or anything? Is anything going to be invested in that area

[46:18] for us at Park? No, it is dedicated to Park. Mr. Doffin I don't know if you've had a chance

[46:22] And to look at whether or not that fits into our parks and trails at this point, because it's a property that wasn't contemplated when we acquired it.

[46:30] So I don't know what, that may be a difficult question to answer off the cuff.

[46:36] Through the WCAO, we do have some plans regarding the Donatelli Park space, but at this time, nothing is currently set for,

[46:48] set to move forward with the issue.

[46:50] just curious. Thank you. My question would be similar and it may deserve some type.

[46:54] Oh, Councillor Gill, I'll let you go first. I'm sorry.

[46:56] Thank you, Mayor Horn. I guess my question is, is the park open to the public?

[47:01] If so, what is, are we going to communicate, what's the communication strategy looking

[47:07] like to the public?

[47:10] Through the WCAO, currently the park is undeveloped as it stands right

[47:16] now. I think it's going to be which comes to my

[47:19] question important for us to have a strategy here because on that park exists what I would

[47:24] describe as a heritage home and a very old and fragile church. I know the story of the

[47:30] church it was not meant to be a permanent structure and it's managed to survive for

[47:34] a very long time. So while this property was predominantly I believe acquired for its wetland

[47:40] potential and its habitat it also does have some heritage value and so I think we should

[47:45] We'd ask staff to give us some, we should perhaps give direction to staff just to advise us on how we would move forward with the property.

[47:52] Tonight, we're dedicating it, but I think the next steps will be to come and give us some advice on that, Mr. Pitkely.

[47:58] I think, once we've got our parks and trails master plan, but I think the next step for that would be to actually do some master planning for each of the individual parks that we own in the city, and we haven't really got to that detail yet, but it would be something to look forward to in the next term for sure.

[48:14] And I think that the conversation I've referenced earlier when we had our guests from the cross is that on the 18th I anticipate if you look at the Utilities Master Plan is freshener minds and deals with that infrastructure.

[48:26] The Transportation Master Plan is just the same date so it's equally fresh.

[48:31] But the Trails and Parks Master Plan is a little older and it might not seem as old and normal times but things have changed so much including this acquisition here.

[48:41] that it might be an opportunity, and I think that's part of what we'll do in the 18th.

[48:46] Is Giz staff a sense of what areas we'd like them to investigate and be able to go off

[48:52] and digest it?

[48:53] We're not going to decide on the 18th to spend a bunch of money on specific projects, but

[48:58] I think we can, and I've emailed Council in advance to say, can you please give staff

[49:02] a bit of a heads up so that they can sort to compile what the list might look like?

[49:06] And so I would remind Council of that, if you can give staff a bit of a heads up as to

[49:10] what might be on your wish list for thoughts,

[49:13] and this might be one of them.

[49:14] Mr. Stewart, did you have anything to add to that

[49:16] or is that summarized what you think will happen that day?

[49:19] No, it's essentially what we're planning to do

[49:21] is give you an update as to what's required

[49:23] within the capital plan to maintain the assets we have

[49:26] and what discretionary money counsel may have to work with

[49:29] and then ultimately finding out what your priorities are.

[49:32] Thank you.

[49:33] Ms. Russell, we actually had this under by-laws tonight,

[49:36] so we don't need to vote on it currently right now.

[49:37] So the motion is actually not necessary, correct?

[49:41] Okay, so we'll just leave that motion on the table and we'll deal with it later on, Councillor, who moved that?

[49:49] Councillor Plessas, but we'll, I think we'll deal with it informally here, sit out right now and go to it at the, at the, at the

[49:56] formal slater on.

[49:58] Members of council who are online virtually, do you have any comments on this one?

[50:03] No comments on this one.

[50:05] Okay, thank you.

[50:05] Next item is the late item, 8D, excuse me, and I'm going to intro this one a little bit just so

[50:13] the Council and community have some background. So currently, this is the matter of Council

[50:19] remuneration. Council has a policy that's intended to sort of ensure that there's a degree of neutrality

[50:27] in the way Council member salaries are determined. And Council has a two-step process, the first

[50:35] First is that they approve a number of communities that are meant as comparators.

[50:40] We did that about a month ago, as I recall, and they were the same ones that were used four years previously.

[50:45] And then those averages are brought forward to Council.

[50:49] Typically, what we have done as a practice is to choose the average of the comparator communities.

[50:55] And then the salary of counselors has been 50% of the salary of the mayor.

[51:03] Here, if you look at the page staff of provided and page 8 of the late item, I notice the staff

[51:09] have given us some options here.

[51:10] So while the recommendation includes an average of the shaded communities of 103, 933, which

[51:17] is the recommendation staff have put forward, there is another option which is the median

[51:22] of the communities of a similar size.

[51:24] In other words, right literally smack dab in the middle, which happens to be the same as

[51:29] Vernon.

[51:30] And so I'll point that out to Council for their information.

[51:33] It's 96.491 or about $6,000 more than the current salary of the mayor at this time.

[51:42] And again, at last point I'll make is for the community's identification.

[51:46] These would be, in effect, after the election when a new council is installed as is our practice.

[51:53] So, there is a recommendation there, Council.

[51:55] What is your wishes?

[51:57] I get a comment there.

[52:00] Okay, so is there a motion, Councillor Harar?

[52:03] Yeah, I'll move it.

[52:05] Move what?

[52:06] Oh, sorry.

[52:07] Go ahead.

[52:08] Now I'm asking whether or not there's a motion on the floor.

[52:11] So, Councillor Crawford will start us off with some motion, Councillor Crawford.

[52:15] Thank you, Mayor Horne.

[52:16] I'd like to make the motion that we use the median figure.

[52:21] Never.

[52:21] I just used the 96.

[52:23] Yes.

[52:23] Thank you.

[52:24] So 96.

[52:24] 4641 increase. Thank you. Councillor Harar, did you hear that?

[52:30] Okay, go ahead and speak, Councillor Harar.

[52:32] Yeah, I do that Mayor Warren and with Councillor Crawford there, I think that I initially was

[52:39] in favor of the increase for both Mayor and Council being the size of our community.

[52:45] You know, it was my opinion that our salaries matched with the size communities were in line

[52:50] and with the same ballpark.

[52:52] Can Mayor Council receive a significant increase

[52:55] approved in 2018 by a previous serving council

[52:59] which placed us on par with other summer municipalities?

[53:03] Exploring further, will these proposed increases on the table?

[53:07] I do not believe council should receive an increase

[53:09] at this present time.

[53:11] I feel we're properly aligned,

[53:12] but I do feel the mayor should receive a modest increase

[53:15] up to 96,000 from 80, 8,000.

[53:19] I believe this is fair considering time commitment and workload and with the position entails as all as all of counsel has served our time is acting mayor we have learned firsthand the demands of the mayor role.

[53:35] If we were to prove these increases in front of us today for both mayor and counsel will be on the high side of salaries for communities under 50,000 population.

[53:45] As a merit job, it's full-time, it's a full-time position.

[53:48] The council provides opportunity for some members to have flexibility in securing additional

[53:52] sources of income for other career opportunities and saying that it can save this next council

[53:58] in June of 2026.

[54:00] I would strongly encourage to go ahead for these changes.

[54:06] As we will be adding two more council members and we'll be close to 50,000 in populations.

[54:12] issues. But in saying that, Mayor Horn, I do believe that the Council should have mobile

[54:19] phones to support our communication efforts with the community. I'd like to put that on

[54:26] the table as well.

[54:27] Okay, so I'll deal with, here's how I'll try to deal with Councillor Hurrah. First, a clarification

[54:31] to Councillor Crawford. Councillor Crawford was your motion for 96, 491 for the Mayor and

[54:37] and 50% of that for Councillors.

[54:39] It's correct.

[54:40] Okay, so Councillor Harar, I will split the motion

[54:42] when we call the question.

[54:44] Then I will come back to you separately

[54:46] to deal with the question of cell phones, okay?

[54:49] So right now, what's on the table is the motion

[54:54] as an entirety is 96, 491 for the mayor

[54:58] and 50% of that for Councillors in the new year.

[55:02] And I will call each of those as two separate votes,

[55:05] but you can debate on any part of them if you wish to.

[55:09] Anybody else like to speak?

[55:10] Councillor Plecus.

[55:12] Thank you, and thank you, comments, and Councillor Herrera, and Councillor Grofford.

[55:16] I do support, I'm concerned with the mayor's salary.

[55:19] I do think it's a little considering that you're in a roll, sort of like executive officer,

[55:24] and you spend a lot of time in city hall, do a lot of community-based events.

[55:27] And I think, though, that I would accept the motion as it's read, I think that somebody

[55:32] that role is because they are full-time and someone who does executive capacity work is

[55:39] usually paid more and that's all I would say.

[55:41] Councilors are fine.

[55:43] I don't have any issue with that, but I just think that it's low, but I'll certainly

[55:46] support the motion.

[55:47] Thank you.

[55:48] I want to ignore that.

[55:48] Councillor Gilhead has had it.

[55:50] Thank you, Mayor Horn.

[55:52] I think anyone that does this role full-time, whether it's the Mayor or Council, is definitely

[55:59] underpaid, especially when it comes probably to the mayor.

[56:02] I know you do this rule almost 24-7.

[56:06] But I think over the past couple days I've had the chance to speak to a couple people just paying their taxes to.

[56:13] And especially even the markets that were heading into people are starting to tighten up their belts.

[56:19] And I think as leaders to show good leadership, it's important that we do tighten up our budgets

[56:26] our budgets as well, whether it's, especially when we're thinking about giving ourselves a

[56:31] pay increase, so I don't support it. I think status quo is fine with me. And then, in

[56:37] respects to cell phones, I use one I, per...

[56:39] I'll come to cell phones later.

[56:40] Okay.

[56:41] I'll let you to be cell phones later. Anybody else, members of Council?

[56:47] Sir Davies?

[56:48] Sir Councilor.

[56:49] Go ahead, Councilor Davies.

[56:51] Well, I wasn't initially going to support this, but when you look at it and you go with

[56:57] what's the median half across the cities, then that probably makes it a lot more palatable.

[57:03] It's that I grew the council practice for the mayor's salary, it's definitely on the

[57:06] low side for the council's salary and it's probably where a line where it should be.

[57:11] But this isn't a raise for this council.

[57:14] This is an alignment for the next council that comes in and as leaders we need to make

[57:18] sure that that council is set off on the right foot and that they have the means and the

[57:23] and the pay to ensure that they successfully do their job, so I'll support this.

[57:30] Thank you.

[57:30] Mr. Hamilton.

[57:33] I mean, I agree with what my fellow Councillors have said about the mayor.

[57:36] I think it does warrant a little bit more about I'll support the motion as it's put forward.

[57:41] And I find having now served two terms on council, our time has definitely increased at the amount

[57:47] of time that we're spending because there's more demands on us as the city grows.

[57:51] So I think it's fair that we support the increase for the Councillors to 50% of what the mayor's salary is.

[57:58] Thank you.

[57:59] Anybody else?

[58:01] I'll speak before your Councillor Harara.

[58:03] I'll go back for a second time.

[58:05] But my comments will be this.

[58:07] In terms of the mayor's salary, it's obviously very difficult to speak about a salary that I will be putting my hat in the ring term.

[58:13] I mean, it's obviously one of the challenges of being an elected official, but it is what it is.

[58:17] every Canadian municipality faces this, and it's just the practice that you have to get through.

[58:22] I'll speak very directly and say it's one of the most common things you hear from people that they're worried when it comes to this, that this is going to get turned into something that appears greedy.

[58:33] In truth, the reality is I strongly believe that the principles applying to elected officials are the same as applied to those working in the private sector and leadership capacities you get what you pay for.

[58:43] And the reality is folks asked me about running for mayor many times over the years,

[58:48] and it was really a choice for me about being able to pay bills, it genuinely was.

[58:53] So I don't feel good about 103,000, I think that's too much of a leap at once.

[58:58] So I think the conversation about where we're heading and people's expectations of austerity are sound.

[59:04] However, I do think that the pay scale being suggested here is actually less than

[59:13] I made in my previous job three years ago, so it gives you an idea of where that is and

[59:19] that job I didn't have to work through the summer.

[59:22] So I do think it's important for us to think about what the market would bear and

[59:27] attracting people who actually bring a suite of skills.

[59:30] I want to speak in favor actually of maintaining the current salary of counselors.

[59:37] Councillors, as Councillor Hamilton said, have an increasing burden on their time.

[59:43] And what people may not realize is that your phone doesn't ring 9-5 Monday through Friday.

[59:49] It involves being at work when most people are socializing, your evenings, your weekends.

[59:55] And dealing with people who have complex and sometimes emotional challenges.

[1:00:00] These are not things that you measure by hour, but by impact in your life. Very few of us,

[1:00:05] I think, get to go away for a weekend, someplace and not check our emails, for example. And those

[1:00:10] little red dots on my phone are the bane of my existence. Yesterday was the first day

[1:00:15] I kid you not, the first day since being elected, that I chose not to look at my phone at all

[1:00:20] and it was difficult to do. But it was my father's day yesterday because my father's day didn't

[1:00:26] actually get to happen on Father's Day.

[1:00:28] So I think it's important for the community

[1:00:30] to get a genuine idea of what's expected.

[1:00:33] You know, this time of the year,

[1:00:35] every four years, we start to have people

[1:00:36] are interested in running for office.

[1:00:38] And I think folks need to understand

[1:00:40] what it actually involves.

[1:00:42] Financially, it's not going to make a big difference

[1:00:44] to people if it's a couple of thousand dollars more.

[1:00:48] But it is about fairness in my mind or equity.

[1:00:53] Excuse me.

[1:00:53] So, as I said in a moment, I'll split the vote into the two questions, but I'll be voting in support of both increases.

[1:01:00] Councillor Hurrah.

[1:01:02] Yeah, thanks, Mayor Gorn.

[1:01:03] I just want to clarify, so if you're supporting the mayor's increase, you see 50% to count, you know, 50% of councils will wages as well.

[1:01:13] What does that entail for the Councillors?

[1:01:15] What is the exact wage shift we give here?

[1:01:18] They will go out by about $3,000 per Councillor.

[1:01:23] Excuse me, about $3,000 per councilor per year.

[1:01:26] My apologies for coughing in your ear.

[1:01:28] Okay, okay, $3,000.

[1:01:30] Oh, okay.

[1:01:31] Thank you.

[1:01:32] Gotcha.

[1:01:32] Thank you.

[1:01:33] Thank you very much.

[1:01:33] Appreciate it.

[1:01:34] I'll get a glass of water in a moment here.

[1:01:36] Thank you.

[1:01:37] Okay, so if there's nothing further, I'm going to call the question first on the mayor's salary,

[1:01:41] which would go up to $96.491 and then be raised by CPI until the next review.

[1:01:47] If everybody clear on the question, call on the question.

[1:01:49] All those in favor? Opposed? Councillor Gil is opposed. Councillor Harar is opposed.

[1:01:55] The matter carries by a square of five to two. Now we'll deal with the matter of council

[1:01:59] salaries. Thank you very much, Mr. Pitcaffley.

[1:02:05] Excuse me, Mayor Warren. I was confused there. I thought I do support the mayor's salary

[1:02:11] but not the mayor's salary. Okay, thank you, so that I do what I've spoken of too.

[1:02:14] Okay, thank you. So that will record that as a six-to-one vote in favor of the mayor's

[1:02:18] I'm sorry, going to that 96 for 91.

[1:02:21] My poll, thank you.

[1:02:23] Now on the subject of the councillor's salaries,

[1:02:25] which would be half of 96 for 91,

[1:02:28] which by my account calculation is about 48 to 50,

[1:02:32] did I pass, Mr. Stewart, did I get that right?

[1:02:35] Good, excellent, ask the math guy.

[1:02:37] I'll call the question on this one.

[1:02:39] All those in favor?

[1:02:41] Opposed?

[1:02:43] It is, Councillor Davies, how did you vote, sir?

[1:02:47] In favor.

[1:02:48] So, that matter carries by a total of five to two.

[1:02:52] Thank you, so the matter carries.

[1:02:55] Councillor Hurr, are you wanted to raise a motion on cell phone use?

[1:02:59] We didn't have a notice of motion on this one, and I suspect staff won't have any

[1:03:03] numbers on cell phone use, but if you want to raise it as a question for staff to

[1:03:07] investigate, that might be how I would frame this as a question.

[1:03:10] Maybe we could start off with this, Mayor Hornis, we used to have cell phones in the past.

[1:03:15] What was the reason behind taking away?

[1:03:19] Well, I think we should put a motion on the table first and then we'll ask the question.

[1:03:22] So, procedurally, are you moving that we ask staff to investigate cell phones?

[1:03:26] That's correct.

[1:03:27] Thank you.

[1:03:28] Okay, and the question through the staff is, and I don't recall because I wasn't on council at

[1:03:34] the time that cell phones were provided to all of council, does anybody recall that?

[1:03:39] I don't recall that either.

[1:03:42] The mayor has a cell phone, which, by the way, I just don't use, I've just used my own cell phone and forward

[1:03:48] everything through, but Ms. Russell, I don't think, Mr. Councillor Harar, that anybody on staff can recall a time when that happened.

[1:03:55] Okay, that's fine.

[1:03:56] Okay, that's fine.

[1:03:57] It was just an idea, yeah.

[1:03:59] So, any other comments or questions on this one?

[1:04:02] The motion is to ask staff to investigate cell phones.

[1:04:06] I will speak to the motion and simply say, I think part of the reason that,

[1:04:11] that we are funded, we are looking at this increases that the cost of being a

[1:04:14] Councillor goes up and that includes cell phone use and it certainly includes the

[1:04:18] cost of transportation. It's probably one of the biggest differences in my current

[1:04:21] job, my old job, is that I'm constantly using my car and unless I travel more than I

[1:04:27] think 50 kilometers, I eat that cost. And so I think that it's meant Councillor

[1:04:34] to be included in the increase that just got approved.

[1:04:38] Excuse me, we're apologies.

[1:04:41] Sorry.

[1:04:43] All right, I'll call the question, then, all those in favor?

[1:04:47] Councillor Hurrari, you're in favor?

[1:04:49] Councillor Davies, you're in favor?

[1:04:51] Councillor Davies, were you in favor?

[1:04:53] The motion over, please.

[1:04:55] It was just for your act, for Ken's motion on cell phones.

[1:04:58] The motion was to ask the staff to investigate the practicality of cell phones for

[1:05:02] Councillors. Sorry, not too much. Sorry, over my coughing, it's hard to understand.

[1:05:07] I'll call the question again. All those in favor of the motion? Councillor

[1:05:12] Herrscher, those opposed. Matter is denied by a council, count of six to one. Thank you.

[1:05:21] Okay, we will move on now to, if I can stop coughing long enough, to development application.

[1:05:29] This is item 9a, page 73, 6th Avenue, and 7542 Briskam Street.

[1:05:35] There is a recommendation from staff.

[1:05:38] Movered, please, Councillor Gil.

[1:05:41] Any comments or questions?

[1:05:44] Councillor Gil.

[1:05:46] Thank you, Mayor Horn.

[1:05:48] I do support moving this forward.

[1:05:50] I guess my question isn't particularly on this application, but I think moving forward,

[1:05:55] when you look along 6th Avenue, they're quite larger properties.

[1:05:59] And I'm wondering what the future for the briskum intersection is for the design of it.

[1:06:04] Or is it something that we're going to be working on or in the future?

[1:06:07] That's we can ask staff to include that if the matter passes and goes to a public hearing.

[1:06:11] They can include that in a presentation.

[1:06:13] Perfect.

[1:06:13] Does that sound okay?

[1:06:14] That's perfect.

[1:06:14] Is that okay with you, Mr. Pueblo?

[1:06:16] Because we don't have engineering here anymore.

[1:06:18] I think we've-

[1:06:19] Oh, I'm sorry.

[1:06:19] Tracy, I couldn't see behind Councillor Crawford.

[1:06:21] Do you want to answer the question now?

[1:06:23] Or would you prefer to deal with that public hearing?

[1:06:25] We can bring the information to the public here.

[1:06:27] Thank you very much. Sorry I didn't see you there.

[1:06:29] Councillor Plessis, just a brief question.

[1:06:31] I know that the driveway has been reduced from 7.7 meters, 6.5.

[1:06:37] I wanted to know, 7.5 to 6, yes, to 7, 6.5.

[1:06:43] The question is, does that impact on the fire department?

[1:06:45] Because it is like a drive through, a drive-rate through, one in the other, there's no detours.

[1:06:50] It looks like a roadway into itself.

[1:06:52] Both. The simple answer is no. The minimum requirement that the fire department demands

[1:06:59] is six meters. The by-law requirement of 7.5 exceeds the minimum fire department

[1:07:04] requirement.

[1:07:05] I thank you. I know many people park in front of their garages in the directional way, so thank

[1:07:11] you.

[1:07:12] Okay, I'll call the question. Then there's nothing further.

[1:07:14] Counselors Hararan Davies, I can't see you again, so please speak up if you wish to speak.

[1:07:20] Okay, I'll call the question then, all those in favor?

[1:07:23] Opposed? It's carried unanimously.

[1:07:25] Now we'll move on to the item 8241, Hazel Crescent.

[1:07:30] And I'm going to be a little bit unusual and I'm going to actually move this one myself with an extra amendment,

[1:07:38] which is that staff be asked to speak to the applicant and report at the public hearing on whether or not they're willing to covenant that the driveway,

[1:07:47] The shared driveway would remain free of vehicles, or they would enforce that.

[1:07:53] Mr. Pueblo?

[1:07:57] The current driveway is protected by an easement currently.

[1:08:02] The easement was put in place in 1980.

[1:08:04] So it exists already, those protections are there.

[1:08:07] There are private arrangement between this property owner, the property owner, to the south, and

[1:08:13] benefiting the property owner further south.

[1:08:16] Both.

[1:08:17] So, clarify for me because my understanding is that while the easement allows for that, essentially, that Panhandle style driveway, what it doesn't necessarily stipulate is that if neighbor A has a concern about neighbor B parking vehicles or storing items along that easement temporarily, that they would be able to then act and hold them to moving those vehicles.

[1:08:40] Is that accurate or is it stipulated in the easement that the roadway must be kept clear?

[1:08:44] Yeah, that protection is already there in the usement.

[1:08:49] That's exactly what it's intended for.

[1:08:52] It provides for a continuous free and unencumbered access.

[1:08:58] Thank you.

[1:08:59] I'll make the motion without the extra amendment and ask to have to speak to that evening.

[1:09:03] The one thing I'll ask before I go to Councillor Plessis, just to be clear,

[1:09:08] the applicant does have to identify and will have had to identify a spot

[1:09:14] for the Secondary Suite to Park opposite other than the space, correct?

[1:09:19] Correct, and we've already worked that out with the applicant.

[1:09:22] It will be on Hazel, they currently have a two-car concrete driveway, they'll be adding an additional

[1:09:29] stall to the east of that to make up to make the third parking stall, so in no way

[1:09:34] impacting the existing easement.

[1:09:36] Thank you.

[1:09:36] I guess my comment would be, again, apologies to Council for going first this time.

[1:09:42] And speaking, and I think we've all received correspondence from the property owner and we'll make sure that that's noted at public hearing as well, but have an opportunity for them to have heard these comments tonight and respond.

[1:09:53] I think part of this may be simply a matter of how neighbors are interacting with neighbors, and that's something that I think we can't regulate, we can't create a regulation that deals with that issue.

[1:10:05] But my concern is, if this issue is already going on, I would love to see that out of this process,

[1:10:12] there was actually some sort of mandate or some sort of way of undertaking that this would

[1:10:19] actually lead to more of a clear understanding of the home that would be impacted by further

[1:10:25] parking. Councillor Plecus, you've asked a question about the extra parking spots for the

[1:10:31] So we'll have an opportunity to hear from these folks out of public hearing, and I would encourage the people, both properties to come and make sure that they heard that evening.

[1:10:42] Can I answer a question before we go on, Mr. Mayor?

[1:10:45] Yes, Councillor Davies, thank you.

[1:10:47] All right. Thank you. Can you stop confirming this and maybe get some details from the for the public hearing is?

[1:10:54] What is the egress point for the secondary suite? Is it in of the easement or is it into the driveway?

[1:11:00] You know, and and how that will work to ensure that their safety when the when if one attends moving from their

[1:11:06] property line into the easement that that

[1:11:09] is looked after?

[1:11:10] Did you did you did you hear that Councillor or the service to public because I had difficulty understanding it?

[1:11:15] I understood the question, so I think you were asking about how how a occupant of the future suite would get into their suite, correct?

[1:11:24] That's correct, and currently the understanding is that maybe from the close-up?

[1:11:28] Yeah, currently the site plan that we have or the layout for the dwelling that we have shows that the suite would be accessed from a stairwell that's located on the south of the current house.

[1:11:39] So essentially in the backyard of the current house, the way it's seated, it is very likely.

[1:11:44] Although it's not, we don't have this confirmed with a diagram, but it's very likely that the individual would walk around the side of the house through the easement area to the front yard and then access their vehicle there.

[1:11:56] So yes, there would be pedestrian movement through the easement, but that's perfectly permitted under the conditions of the easement.

[1:12:04] The easement needs to be kept free and clear for the residents further south, but it is still part of the applicants property and they can use it and

[1:12:14] as long as they don't encumber the other residents or stop them from passing or repassing.

[1:12:20] I think it's fair to say that Council will want some photographs and drawings showing

[1:12:25] the layout when the public hearing comes, if this matter passes this evening.

[1:12:31] Okay, I'll call the question then. All those in favor? Opposed?

[1:12:36] Councillor Harrier opposed?

[1:12:38] Yes.

[1:12:38] Say, the matter passes will go to public hearing by a count of six to one.

[1:12:42] Thank you.

[1:12:45] And we would like to do, I wasn't in favor of this item.

[1:12:48] I'm sorry, Councillor Davies.

[1:12:50] Yeah, I was opposed to this as well.

[1:12:52] Okay, by a score of five to two.

[1:12:54] Thank you.

[1:12:56] We move now to the next item, which is on Horn Street, and this is item 9c, and page 115

[1:13:05] of the agenda, 7330 Horn Street.

[1:13:07] There is a recommendation from staff, but I know there were some concerns.

[1:13:12] concerns from some around the parking? What's your pleasure? Counselor Crawford.

[1:13:18] I'd like to make some comments on the development. If I may, particularly on the,

[1:13:24] do you want to motion up?

[1:13:25] You should put a motion on the table, whether it's to defer, whether it's to deny,

[1:13:31] or whether it's to put it on the table as it is, but what's your pleasure?

[1:13:37] My goodness.

[1:13:39] If you have a question to ask before you decide, then that's fine, too.

[1:13:43] Yes, I'm very concerned about a couple of the paragraphs that refer to parking and the fact that this change that is coming about after we've given it its last reading indicates that we will lose four parking spaces, a parallel parking spaces on the south side of second avenue.

[1:14:08] and we will lose five parking spaces on Horn Street and it's really bothering me to

[1:14:17] great a great amount that we would take nine parking stalls away from the

[1:14:25] downtown parking area which is already repeatedly we hear a short of parking

[1:14:33] installs in that in all of the downtown area. And this is a very nice architecturally

[1:14:43] pleasing building. It certainly hasn't asked if I recall correctly for any incentives

[1:14:50] Is there anything as far as any sweets that are rent controlled or anything?

[1:15:00] In it, and it looks like a very nice situation, but it only allows according to the parking requirements 40, the 40 stalls that are required plus one, but none of those stalls will benefit the parking that is required in the downtown area to service the different businesses that surround that area. And this change that has been offered to us,

[1:15:30] that they would like to see, I think, is too costly on the amount of spaces that we will lose on behalf of the downtown core.

[1:15:41] And I'm really struggling with that very much, so I really would like to hear from.

[1:15:46] Let's turn that into a question and I'll come back to Council Crawford, so perhaps staff can advise on their feelings regarding the loss of the nine spaces and how they fit into the downtown parking question.

[1:16:01] So there's two parts to the design they're going to result in loss of parking.

[1:16:07] One is on second avenue where the lane enters and the current proposal is to have garbage

[1:16:13] entry off that site.

[1:16:14] The previous proposal was to have all access from that site so it's likely that those stalls

[1:16:20] would have been lost when that on and that civil work was done anyways in the

[1:16:26] future even with the previous design because that would have been even more

[1:16:30] vehicles moving through that alignment through that lane so from so the change in

[1:16:37] the design is really resulting in a change that was happening on horn and that's

[1:16:41] that's the five parking stalls that would likely be lost to the the new entrance

[1:16:48] there. The only thing I can notice that we are working on getting that parking

[1:16:54] study done to see what the numbers really play out and tell us about what the

[1:17:00] parking conditions are in the downtown and staff did work with this

[1:17:05] developer to really come up with any design other than this that might have

[1:17:09] worked due to the configuration of the lane. This was the only solution that

[1:17:15] that was deemed viable by both staff and the developer, it's likely that a significant amount of lane would be required to be dedicated in order to facilitate all of the access off of second the way with originally proposed.

[1:17:31] Thank you, so Councillor Crawford, I'll go back to you. I think we may have, I can sort

[1:17:38] of envision three options here. One is approval. One is asking, deferring it back to

[1:17:44] staff to ask for a sharpened pencil, and third is a flat out motion to deny. And there's

[1:17:52] probably other options. I haven't thought of, but those are three that come to mind.

[1:17:55] What's your pleasure, sir?

[1:17:56] I

[1:18:00] think I'd like to ask for deferral to see if there's anything that can be done regarding the parking situation.

[1:18:09] So there's a motion to defer this item and it doesn't need a seconder.

[1:18:13] It's not debatable, but I think the question would be to ask staff to go off and focus their sharpen their pencils.

[1:18:23] So the motion is to defer until such time as that is done.

[1:18:26] Is there a timeline that you'd like this to, as it indefinite?

[1:18:31] Too much possible.

[1:18:32] So it's a motion, indefinite motion and ask staff to come back on a qualitative question.

[1:18:39] I'll call the question then, all those in favor of the deferral, opposed, councillors

[1:18:45] Herr R. and Councillor Davies, what was your vote?

[1:18:48] I couldn't see your hands.

[1:18:51] Both supported the deferral.

[1:18:52] I believe that was a seven to nothing vote.

[1:18:55] unanimous on the deferral. Thank you.

[1:19:00] Next is item, excuse me, 9D, 334159, Kirkpatrick Avenue for a variance there. Do we have a

[1:19:09] mover? Councillor Gill moves? Comments and questions.

[1:19:14] Councillor Gill? Thank you, Mayor Horn. I do support this. I think I had a look at it.

[1:19:21] But I think this is something similar that came up very early on for a visible that

[1:19:28] council supported.

[1:19:30] But when I looked at the pictures that were provided, it's, I looked at it as a structure

[1:19:35] that, for example, if it wasn't built, then a variance request came in, I would still support

[1:19:40] it because it's a very nice structure that's built, it's not really done cutting corners.

[1:19:46] and second, it's not visible from the streets, it's blocked by large trees, so I don't think

[1:19:52] it's a burden to anyone, so I do support the recommendation.

[1:19:57] Thank you.

[1:19:57] I think I have Councillor Hamilton and Councillor Plessis.

[1:20:01] Thank you, and I appreciate Councillor Gil's comments, but I would just like to emphasize

[1:20:06] again that when work is started on a building or commence without a building permit, that's

[1:20:12] That's not the way we do business, and so I appreciate that the neighbors around are supporting it and the trees are there so that it's not visible from the street.

[1:20:22] And I will support it, but I really, people need to know that this isn't how we do business here with building and then asking for forgiveness afterwards.

[1:20:33] I do support it and as indicated by Councillor Kille, it is hidden by the trees and I think there is a significant road allowance on the compatriots side of the road.

[1:20:42] But the thing that I was wondering is whether or not when they put in these kind of structures and not in clothes is whether or not it can be put in them that the structure cannot change if it's been given this variance.

[1:20:55] It's not intended for anything other than what it was used for at this present time.

[1:21:02] Is that part of what requires?

[1:21:04] And the variance can be made specific to this structure for this purpose.

[1:21:10] And so they would need to seek another variance if they were, for instance, a plot to apply for a billing permit to enclose the structure.

[1:21:16] I think that would be a fair thing to do.

[1:21:18] I just think that, you know, because I think that if it's in the closed structure,

[1:21:22] it may change, the decision comes so close to the road.

[1:21:25] I think it's used specifically for the park and motorhome, I believe, what I see in

[1:21:30] there, and it is just a roof with the thing over.

[1:21:33] It seems common, it makes logical sense for that purpose, but if it was anything other

[1:21:38] than that, it may challenge us to look at it differently, proximate to the road.

[1:21:42] That's very good, Councillor Crawford, with the fourth comment, the next set of comments.

[1:21:46] So, Mr. Pablo, are you saying that it would need some sort of staff, I'm sorry,

[1:21:50] some sort of council resolution that we added a covenant that it could not be enclosed

[1:21:55] without coming back to council?

[1:21:58] I don't believe a covenant, a standalone covenant would be required.

[1:22:01] We would typically, and there's a draft of almost very much permit for approval tonight,

[1:22:06] a line can be added to it, making it specific that this is for this structure only.

[1:22:11] And we can add the building permit number that we have today for this structure.

[1:22:15] and make it specific in that way.

[1:22:17] And that's a pretty short untitled.

[1:22:19] I'm so sorry.

[1:22:20] Councillor Gilla, I believe you were the mover.

[1:22:21] Would you accept that as a friendly amendment that we add that, that notation?

[1:22:26] If it supports that, I'll add it.

[1:22:28] Thank you.

[1:22:29] Councillor Crawford.

[1:22:31] Thank you, Mayor Horn.

[1:22:33] I won't be on the popular list tonight.

[1:22:35] I want to make comments about this.

[1:22:39] There's a saying that goes around all the time and you hear it in town when somebody has

[1:22:44] done something that they're not supposed to do in the building corner, that's usually

[1:22:49] without a permit.

[1:22:50] And it's easier to build something now and then ask forgiveness later.

[1:22:55] And I don't think we're doing any favors to our staff who have to handle these types of

[1:23:03] things or to us as a council who have to spend time on things like this as an after fact,

[1:23:11] When we have people who do build structures without permits, they just go ahead and do it.

[1:23:17] And then they have to come and face the music after.

[1:23:22] And I don't think we do any favors to the citizens of our community when we allow it to go through.

[1:23:28] Because we're really, I think, stamping it as, okay, it's all right, I guess.

[1:23:35] Yes, let's go ahead and forget about it, because we're really saying, well, it's easier to build it now and come back and ask for forgiveness later.

[1:23:47] Thank you, Councilor.

[1:23:47] So I'll be opposing you.

[1:23:49] Thank you, Councilor Crawford, Councilor Stavis, and there are any comments from you?

[1:23:53] No comments, ma'am.

[1:23:56] I'll be supporting this tonight.

[1:23:58] I understand it was built about the permit and that is definitely I agree with Councillor

[1:24:03] Hamilton. That's not how we want to be doing things. But we're also aware that we've

[1:24:08] done for a period of time with extremely long permit wait times and that has a significant

[1:24:14] effect and it does drive the behavior of building things that shouldn't be built without permit

[1:24:20] and proper procedure. So I don't expect this to become business as usual. I expect this

[1:24:25] This is going to be just a one-off and it's a chance for it to be put back into the right side of things.

[1:24:34] I'll speak to this one as well and say I'll be supporting it this evening. I think Councillor Hamilton has said it the best.

[1:24:40] I very much agree and have the same concerns as Councillor Crawford.

[1:24:46] I don't think it's an issue of somebody trying to beat the building permit times, and quite frankly,

[1:24:50] I'll say that if it was I would be actually opposed to it because I don't want people to think

[1:24:55] that they should do it because they don't like the building permit times.

[1:24:58] We have other issues of that nature.

[1:25:01] I think this is simply a person who didn't realize that they were building a structure

[1:25:05] in somebody else's, in a setback, and there are other issues or other things that the

[1:25:11] property owner is working on right now that I think our bigger matters.

[1:25:16] And so I will support this particular variance, but the cautions that Councillor

[1:25:21] Hamilton and Councillor Crawford have raised are very, very valid and I would ask

[1:25:25] the community to think about the fact that it's nerve-wracking when you know you might

[1:25:29] be asked to dismantle your entire structure rather than going in and asking permission

[1:25:35] in advance. I'll call the question. All those in favor? Opposed? Councillor Crawford

[1:25:42] was opposed. Councillor Hurrah, you voted in favor. Is that correct? That's correct. Thank

[1:25:47] you, the matter carries by a vote of six to one. Thank you.

[1:25:52] Next is the Affordable Housing Strategy Quarterly Report, and Mr. Dickinson, are you doing a presentation

[1:25:58] or are you here just to answer questions on that at this point?

[1:26:02] Through Mayor Horne, I'm here mainly to answer questions this evening on this.

[1:26:06] Thank you very much.

[1:26:07] Questions from members of council on the Affordable Housing Strategy Update?

[1:26:11] Councillor Plessas.

[1:26:12] Thank you for the report, and I appreciate the update where we're moving forward on our Affordable Housing Strategy.

[1:26:19] The only common I have is halfway through page 154 and it's correct information.

[1:26:24] Currently, 165 dwelling units are being built.

[1:26:27] It'd be nice to know that we have many in the hopper which maybe right now are not being built.

[1:26:32] This is the public is aware that we have got a lot of stuff we've approved or in the process of getting through that process.

[1:26:38] Yet that have yet to get started building.

[1:26:40] So I think that there's a larger number in process than actually being built.

[1:26:44] Nice to hear that number as well.

[1:26:45] So Mr. Dickinson, you've recently told us this number but it was at a meeting that probably wasn't watched by very many people.

[1:26:52] Do you want to, do you remember your numbers at the top of your head where they, I know you had a mid-range and a high-range,

[1:26:58] where are we in terms of units being in the pipeline?

[1:27:02] In terms of the total numbers, and that's something that's a little easier for me to remember.

[1:27:07] It's approximately 3,000 apartment units at our various stages of the approval process that includes

[1:27:14] under construction and approximately 1,000 townhouse units that are somewhere within that range.

[1:27:23] And looking at the high, low and medium scenarios, I think we can expect that even at the lowest we're going to be seeing at least 1,000 to 1,500 units over the next four or five years.

[1:27:39] I'll speak more to the, I'll speak briefly here and more when you get to the one that I have a notice of motion on, but one of the things that I want us as a council and a community to think about is providing a very dexterous tool for dealing with affordable housing as we saw when we saw the report affordable housing doesn't mean one price point, it means different ways for people to buy a home, it means being able to live within the same community as you need to go out and

[1:28:06] to expand or downsize, it means providing supportive housing for people who have those needs.

[1:28:13] So at an earlier point in the year after we had had a workshop on this subject, I provided

[1:28:17] staff with one potential matrix or a way of evaluating applications based on a whole host

[1:28:24] of criteria.

[1:28:25] One criteria on I want a particularity point to is when employers, sorry, when developers

[1:28:32] In other words, come to us and they say that they're willing to work with an established not-for-profit society, a Mackle, a Sarah, an MCSS, a lookout, and know that they will be able through the use of that partnership to deliver housing that hits the targeted market, and that might be associated with outreach or in-reach services that will have ongoing monitoring, and doesn't make the city have to be responsible for that, all of those are assets.

[1:28:58] And so, when we talk about those, I think the low range was 1100 units that was in the last projection, that 1100 units is an opportunity for us to be doing more.

[1:29:13] And I'm sort of saying what I was going to say later on.

[1:29:16] But I do think it's incredibly important when we talk about one of the strategy 1.1 hiring a social housing coordinator.

[1:29:24] I am extremely eager for us to fill that position and extremely eager for that person to give

[1:29:30] us a very creative, multi-approach policy that lets us take advantage of lots of ways

[1:29:40] of meeting affordable housing needs, including partnering with not-for-profits.

[1:29:46] So I'm very eager to see us move on that particular one especially.

[1:29:51] Just having housing stock out there is not on its own a guarantee that it will remain affordable.

[1:29:58] And I think Councillor Crawford has spoken-

[1:30:00] And eloquently about a couple of things in the past. First is that a lot of the time what we're getting are single family, sorry, single broom apartments. And second is the fact that these are going to have a window where they close. And we sort of presume that they'll all that we'll have 20 years of stock. And then the next you'll have another 20 years of stock. But the truth is we might see booms and busts. And I'm worried that at the end of 20 years without a strategy and a coordinator to think in the long,

[1:30:28] long, longitude in a way that we're going to end up with a whole bowl of people who find

[1:30:34] themselves being hit with a strong, a major increase in their rent.

[1:30:40] So that will be a key priority for us, is that person?

[1:30:44] Any other comments from members of council?

[1:30:46] This is just for information at this point.

[1:30:49] Okay, so resolution to rise and report would be in order.

[1:30:53] Please move by Councillor Hamilton.

[1:30:55] All those in favor?

[1:30:57] Opposed, it's carried.

[1:30:58] Now, we were not easy tonight.

[1:31:02] So, we are going to do our committee of the whole report in multiple stages.

[1:31:07] So, we have, let's see here.

[1:31:10] I'm almost tempted just to go through them all individually here.

[1:31:15] So, we will deal with, let's see here, we have two items, three items where we had consensus.

[1:31:23] Justice? No, I'm wrong. Four, I apologize. So the committee, the whole report where we have unanimity is the UBCM Community Emergency Preparedness Fund, RCMP Letter of Approval, Briskum Street Development Application, and the deferral of the Horn Street Application.

[1:31:44] On those we had all seven in favor, moved Councillor Gill, second in Councillor Plexus.

[1:31:51] All those in favour? Opposed? Councillor Gill and Councillor, sorry, Councillor

[1:31:56] Harar and Councillor Davies, you were in favour?

[1:32:00] Yes.

[1:32:03] Thank you.

[1:32:04] Now we'll go through the ones where there were exceptions. The first is the waterfront revitalization

[1:32:09] master plan. Councillor Harar voted against this in committee. I need a mover, please.

[1:32:13] Councillor Flecketh, seconded by Councillor Gil. I'll call the question. All those in favor?

[1:32:21] Opposed? Councillor Hurrah remains opposed, but the matter carries by a vote of 6-1.

[1:32:28] Next one is Council remuneration, specifically on the subject of the mayor's salary at 96,000.

[1:32:35] I'll call this one. All those in—oh, sorry, I need a mover. Councillor Hamilton, seconded,

[1:32:41] Councillor Crawford. All those in favour? Opposed? Councillor Gilles opposed the

[1:32:47] matter carry 6 to 1. Now Councillor Salaries which would be 50% of 96, 491. I need a

[1:32:54] mover. There were two people who were opposed before they were Councillor Gilles and Councillor

[1:32:57] Harar. Councillor Plessis moves that. Councillor Crawford seconds it. All those in favour? Opposed?

[1:33:04] Councillor Gilles, Councillor Harar opposed the matter carries by a vote of 5 to 2. Development

[1:33:09] What about the application moving to public hearing, first and second reading at Hazel Street,

[1:33:13] 8241? This was originally opposed by our two online participants, Councillor

[1:33:18] Davies and Herr R. A mover, please. Councillor Plective, seconded by Councillor

[1:33:23] Crawford. Did I see Councillor Crawford? All those in favor? Opposed?

[1:33:28] Councillor Davies and Herr R. Opposed, the matter carries by a five to two vote.

[1:33:34] Okay. So it now passes by a four to three vote. And now we move to the development

[1:33:42] variance permit, Kirkpatrick Avenue. Here Councillor Crawford was opposed. This is the variance

[1:33:49] on the setback for the RV garage. Move her please. Councillor Gill, Councillor Hamilton.

[1:33:56] and I'll call the question. All those in favor? Opposed? Councillor Crawford's opposed.

[1:34:01] Councillor Hurrah, were you opposed or were you in favor? I wasn't sure.

[1:34:06] In favor. Thank you. The matter carries by about a 6 to 1. I believe that's everything that was in our committee.

[1:34:12] The whole report is that, right, Ms. Russell? Thank you. I'll give that back to you later on.

[1:34:16] If you use it correctly, I think you can also unlock a couple of things in the Indiana temple of doom.

[1:34:22] and that's how many complexities there are in that.

[1:34:25] All right, we'll move on to by-laws if we are,

[1:34:29] if I'm in the right place here, stick with me.

[1:34:31] No, we cannot move on to by-laws.

[1:34:33] Council committee reports and minutes,

[1:34:37] there is a set of minutes from the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee,

[1:34:41] and any comments from members of council?

[1:34:43] I do.

[1:34:45] Councilor Davies.

[1:34:46] Thank you, Mr. Warrick.

[1:34:47] I have a question regarding the correspondence and emails,

[1:34:56] I was wondering if any community engagement or what sort of community engagement had

[1:35:00] be done on that or whether that was something that still needed to be done?

[1:35:05] Through to our Director of Parks and Recreation, not sure whether or not that item has gone to staff

[1:35:14] It was received by the committee, but I don't think it is, there's no recommendation

[1:35:20] from staff here to bring it to, from the committee to bring it to Council.

[1:35:25] Yes, so basically we would wait for a council to adopt the minutes and then we would move on

[1:35:32] any motions that came out of the committee, so.

[1:35:34] We're not being asked to approve these minutes, we're being asked to receive these minutes

[1:35:37] correct, so there's no approval process.

[1:35:39] I guess what I would say is this, and this is something I've been harping on.

[1:35:43] So, advisory committees need to give us recommendations.

[1:35:46] What are they asking us to do as a next step?

[1:35:48] So, Councillor Davies, I would ask that we perhaps give them back a question and say,

[1:35:53] what would they like us to do with this?

[1:35:56] Uh, yeah, I guess that would be my question, because I think Jay Porton is in parks, so is

[1:36:03] that something that parks is working on?

[1:36:06] Is it, and if it is, it really is a question for parks?

[1:36:10] I think as we heard recently, it's not land we own, so that kind of changes the dynamic

[1:36:18] considerably. I think it's part of our waterfront master plan already, and so as we know,

[1:36:22] the waterfront revitalization master plan will stipulate how the public might have some

[1:36:28] land go into the public pool as it develops as part of density, bonusing, or swapping

[1:36:34] or acquisition in some other way. So it's a bit of a moot question, because unless

[1:36:39] that's Council wants to buy it for that purpose, which would be quite contrary to the very plan we've already adopted this evening.

[1:36:47] So, yeah, I guess it may be that what the message has been sent there in that committee then is out of sync with waterfront and that should be corrected.

[1:36:55] I think it's simply a matter of staff clarifying back to the committee why that might not be the best location.

[1:37:01] And if they wish for us to investigate dog park locations, that's a question they should advise us on.

[1:37:06] So I think I see staff acknowledging that, thank you.

[1:37:10] Other comments from these minutes?

[1:37:13] I'll simply acknowledge that the business arising,

[1:37:18] Fraser River Heritage Park really appreciated the fact that our first nations were

[1:37:24] collaboratively with us and spoke to it on Canada Day to make sure that our return to the park

[1:37:28] was a very successful event and very much in line with what this committee discussed.

[1:37:33] So thank you. Okay? We'll move that on to council meeting minutes for approval. We have three sets for approval.

[1:37:40] These are all beginning page 162. Do I have a mover for approval of these minutes?

[1:37:45] Councillor Fleckas, seconded by Councillor Crawford. All those in favour? Opposed? It's carried. Thank you.

[1:37:53] Now we get to go into by-laws. If I can find my page, page 190.

[1:38:00] Okay, so we start off with first and second reading on Briskham Street.

[1:38:06] This was approved in committee.

[1:38:08] Do I have a mover, Councillor Plexus, seconded by Councillor Crawford.

[1:38:14] All those in favor?

[1:38:17] Opposed?

[1:38:18] It's carried unanimously.

[1:38:19] Thank you, folks.

[1:38:20] Please make sure your hands are up for a few seconds longer.

[1:38:22] I have to look at the TV and at the chambers.

[1:38:27] Next is first and second reading for 8241 Hazel Crescent to have a mover on this one, Councillor

[1:38:34] Crawford, seconded by Councillor Plessis. All those in favor? Opposed? Councillor Gill,

[1:38:45] Harrah, Davies, opposed. The matter carries by a vote of 4-3 and we'll go to public hearing.

[1:38:50] Next is the Park Dedication on Donatelli Avenue, mover please, Councillor Hamilton, seconded

[1:38:58] by Councillor Gill, comments or questions? All those in favor? Opposed? It's carried

[1:39:04] unanimously. Thank you. Next is third reading for a matter we had before the public hearing.

[1:39:10] It's 7680 Heard Street. Do I have a mover? Moved Councillor Crawford, seconded by Councillor

[1:39:16] Councillor Placcus, comments or questions from members of council?

[1:39:19] Councillor Gill?

[1:39:22] Thank you, Mayor Hone, I do support this, but my question is in these role homes, we don't

[1:39:27] allow basements if I'm correct.

[1:39:29] Is there going to be, is that correct?

[1:39:32] Basements are basements sweet.

[1:39:34] Are basements sweet?

[1:39:35] That's right, basements sweetes are not permitted.

[1:39:38] I was looking at the plans, it looked like it's almost set up for a suite.

[1:39:42] Is it going to be on the title or the covenant?

[1:39:46] It's not unusual for us to look at building plans and be suspicious that a structure might be converted into a suite later.

[1:39:54] However, when it's not indicating, we're obligated to approve the plans the way they are.

[1:39:58] It simply becomes a potential by-law enforcement issue in the future.

[1:40:02] Okay.

[1:40:03] Thank you, any weather else before we vote on this one?

[1:40:06] I'll call the question then, all those in favor?

[1:40:09] Opposed, it carries by a seven to nothing vote, thank you.

[1:40:12] Next, we'll do the other matter that was in the public hearing tonight, Cherry Avenue.

[1:40:17] A mover, please.

[1:40:19] Councillor Hamilton, seconded by Councillor Crawford.

[1:40:22] Comments or questions on this one?

[1:40:25] Seeing none, I'll call the question.

[1:40:27] All those in favor?

[1:40:28] Opposed?

[1:40:29] It's carried unanimously, seven to none, and then we'll move on to adoption of a matter that

[1:40:35] is from 2018.

[1:40:38] This is a property in Hatsecaria along Lohid Highway, item F, moved by Councilor Plekis,

[1:40:46] seconded by Councillor Gill. Any comments or questions on this one?

[1:40:51] I do have a question on this one, and it's well before my time, but looking at staff notes,

[1:40:57] there was some question about preserving at least artifact from the site, and I wondered,

[1:41:03] Mr. Pueblo, do you know whether or not anybody actually did go in and were able to actually extract some of those heritage items from the old

[1:41:10] Catholic word house?

[1:41:14] Oh, sorry, from the Catholic word house.

[1:41:16] Yes, that's that property.

[1:41:18] A property in the Catholic word.

[1:41:22] I don't remember whether that occurred or not at this point in time.

[1:41:27] Councillor Crawford, it looks like you may know this if your heritage commission were.

[1:41:30] Excuse me, ma'am.

[1:41:31] Yes, I do know that the contractor or the developer was eager to help and I know there was records made on pictures and such.

[1:41:42] And I know he made the offer of anyone interested in coming over and looking at artifacts to save.

[1:41:50] So I don't know if it happened, but the offers were there and all done accordingly.

[1:41:57] Okay. Thank you. Any other comments? I'll call the question. All those in favor? Opposed?

[1:42:02] It's carried unanimously. Thank you. Moving on to the OCP by the adoption of the Waterfront

[1:42:09] Revitalization Master Plan. Now, just to be clear, this is adoption of the text

[1:42:14] amendment that was given third reading two weeks ago. Moved by Councillor Plecus. Seconded by.

[1:42:20] by? Councillor Hamilton, comments or questions? Seeing none, I'll call the question. All those

[1:42:27] in favour? Opposed? Councillor Harar is opposed. The matter carries 6 to 1. Thank you.

[1:42:33] Next is adoption of the consumption of liquor and public places. Bylaw, mover, please or Councillor

[1:42:40] Gill, second and Councillor Crawford, comments or questions? Do you want to point out to folks

[1:42:46] that the newspaper has pointed out or has said that this is legal already, but I'll

[1:42:53] go to staff and say, ask them, when do you think you'll be able to have things

[1:42:58] like signs and so forth install? It's not officially, it will be enforced tonight

[1:43:03] after this is adopted, but there's a rollout period.

[1:43:07] Yes, your worship.

[1:43:09] What needs to roll out is we need to get the signs, design the signs, get them ordered,

[1:43:14] get some places set up in the park, although the, although the bylaws in place, we wouldn't expect it to be, you know,

[1:43:20] ready to go until those signs, and we did promise to bring those signs back to Council prior to installation in the park and identify where in the park they will be

[1:43:30] erected.

[1:43:31] I'm not 100% sure we should be adopting the bylaw in this evening.

[1:43:35] To be honest with you, I think that we should probably be holding off an adoption until such time as we're actually able to go ahead.

[1:43:42] Otherwise, we put bylaws and others in a difficult position, what's the date we start

[1:43:48] doing the pilot project assessment?

[1:43:50] If we do a quote-unquote soft launch and people are out there and there's no clear delineation,

[1:43:56] I'm concerned about that.

[1:43:57] So I'm going to actually move deferral on this one until we have seen an implementation strategy

[1:44:04] with some signs.

[1:44:06] So I've moved deferral already and I'll call the question on the deferral.

[1:44:10] all those in favor of deferral? Opposed? It's Councillor Harar, are you in favor of

[1:44:16] deferral? Yes.

[1:44:18] Thank you. So deferral is carried seven to none. So we'll get a word back from staff hopefully

[1:44:23] sooner than later. Thank you. Moving on to adoption of the the the steps of vision control

[1:44:34] bylaw. These are the street cross sections. Councillor Hamilton, I know this one is probably

[1:44:39] one you don't want.

[1:44:39] I'm here to my heart.

[1:44:40] Yep, so we'll move that one.

[1:44:42] Councillor Hamilton moves, seconded by, Councillor Crawford, comments or questions.

[1:44:46] All those in favour?

[1:44:48] Opposed?

[1:44:49] It's carried unanimously.

[1:44:50] Thank you.

[1:44:51] Permits for consideration.

[1:44:53] There was a motion to defer already on Horn Street, so we do not need to deal with that

[1:44:58] one.

[1:44:58] Correct, Ms. Russell.

[1:45:00] Next is Kirkpatrick. This one was dealt with at Council, a committee, but we'll vote on it here. This is for the variance. Move, Councillor Plessis, seconded by Councillor Hamilton. All those in favor of the variance? Opposed? Councillor, Councillor Crawford, opposed? The matter carries by a vote of 6 to 1. And we'll move on to resolutions released from closed unless our Council comments. Those are already, those are for public consumption.

[1:45:29] and we'll move on to new on other business council member updates starting with our online

[1:45:34] participants to make it easier here. Councillor Davies, do you have anything you'd like

[1:45:38] to report? Thank you very much for being with us, even though you are with the sick family,

[1:45:46] Councillor Hark, anything you'd like to report? Yeah, nothing to report, thank you.

[1:45:50] Other than your nuptials? Yes, yes, thank you. Thank you for all of coming. Appreciate

[1:45:54] Thank you.

[1:45:56] And we'll move from our right all the way to our left and I'll go to Councillor Gile first tonight.

[1:46:01] I thank you, Mayor Horn.

[1:46:03] I guess the first event I attended was the Rotary Insulation Dinner for incoming presidents for midday and morning day club.

[1:46:12] And the second event was the Canada Day event, which was phenomenal.

[1:46:17] I think we had great speakers, including Darrell McCamey and yourself.

[1:46:22] And myself and Councillor Placcus got to serve the cake and I feel bad for anyone that got cake from Councillor Placcus because his hands were all in it.

[1:46:38] Councillor Placcus was a building service technician, not a cook. I just want to point that out.

[1:46:43] Okay, excellent. Thank you, Councillor Gil. Councillor Placcus.

[1:46:45] Yeah, thank you, and I just want to pass on a couple things.

[1:46:48] First of all, I appreciate the Ken Day event.

[1:46:50] It was well attended, and I think it was well-run.

[1:46:53] I think our contractor, John McBride, did a great job.

[1:46:57] The other things I want to briefly touch on is I attended three AGMs in the last week and a half.

[1:47:02] And I just want to report on Mission Environmental Stewardship Society.

[1:47:06] They've had 850 people participate in there over the year, and

[1:47:11] they've collected 20,000 pounds of debris.

[1:47:13] and they wanted to thank the District of Mission Public Works for supporting them and removing that stuff.

[1:47:19] I think they have a new youth club called the Little Buster's Club, which also goes on a canoe trip twice in the summer.

[1:47:26] And I have to say they are a very good, well-run organization.

[1:47:30] The other thing I want to report on, they attended Mass AGM as well.

[1:47:35] And they are full up on all three of their facilities.

[1:47:37] These are got weighting less than the seeders and seeder men as well as Walton Towers and

[1:47:42] a game they're running very smoothly.

[1:47:44] That goes the same to save with the Pleasant View Society as well, doing a very good job

[1:47:49] and things going very well with the society.

[1:47:51] The only other thing I have to report on is that the library, we have some reading club and

[1:47:57] I attended their workshop last week and we talked about a lot of things and they've got a

[1:48:02] lot of exciting things planned for the coming year.

[1:48:05] As you know, we have our program, we have our disc, not discovery program or a program for

[1:48:12] you can take out things in the, in the, are the library and we're going to add to that collection.

[1:48:17] So as I've taken up binoculars or, uh, bat pack packs or bird pack packs, they're going to add some things to it.

[1:48:23] They're going to surprise us new in, in the, in the fall.

[1:48:26] And so other than that, I would just remind people to, uh, join the reading club this summer.

[1:48:30] It's for all ages from five to all the way up.

[1:48:33] Thank you very much.

[1:48:34] Councillor Hamilton.

[1:48:35] Thank you, Mayor Horn.

[1:48:36] I just want to thank all of the residents of mission who have participated in participation

[1:48:41] and I don't think we know yet where we stand as far as ranking goes, but it was a lot

[1:48:46] of fun as a community we all got together and participated and I just want to make a comment

[1:48:52] about calendar day and for me sitting there I just reflected on how our community has changed

[1:48:57] and the number of young families that are now in our community and the diversity of our

[1:49:01] community. We truly are, in my opinion, a multicultural city with, you know, what I saw

[1:49:08] at the park on Canada Day, and so it was a great event, and I thank Joanna for organizing

[1:49:14] it. And, yeah, those are my comments. Thank you.

[1:49:17] Thank you very much. And Councillor Crawford. Certainly is a GM season. I attended three also,

[1:49:27] Also one with Councillor Plessas, and one with the Mission Community Services Society,

[1:49:34] Roger Doaker is a chair there, and also with the Mission Community Futures North Fraser,

[1:49:42] with Heather O'Coin as a chair, and all of them are doing well.

[1:49:48] And I also witnessed Councillor Gail serving pancakes for a couple of hours on Canada Day,

[1:49:54] So he had his fingers in the pancakes also.

[1:50:00] So both those Councillors over there were.

[1:50:03] I wouldn't play in with your food only in my pancakes.

[1:50:09] Thank you very much, Councillor Crawford.

[1:50:11] I want to acknowledge Councillor Harar for inviting us to his wedding.

[1:50:16] The good news I found out that our energy crisis will be completely satisfied

[1:50:21] by the fact that all of the heating, all the heat that was in the Hatsick Prairie Hall will be preserved and we will be able to use it through the winter.

[1:50:30] Excellent. It was warm in their councilor Hurrah.

[1:50:32] Yeah, it sure was.

[1:50:33] Canada Day, again, I want to echo what others have said.

[1:50:37] And what I want to particularly reflect on today is how much the event was built into having an opportunity for diversity and for First Nations inclusion.

[1:50:49] I was the MC and one after another I started to introduce acts thinking about where geographically

[1:50:56] the dance or singing or martial art that we were observing had originated and we truly did have

[1:51:02] representation from all across the world including I don't know if you saw it or not but there was

[1:51:09] a mum during the ceremony who was in tears watching her children dancing and doing the the warrior

[1:51:15] dance and other dances during the opening ceremonies. It was very touching. It was also really

[1:51:21] remarkable. I didn't get a chance to go next door, unfortunately, but the powwow returning

[1:51:26] to the Pecuelis lands, this former St. Mary's institution, and apparently adding a third

[1:51:32] day because things were that successful. And it was all in the spirit of empowering youth.

[1:51:38] So it was very, very important to people who don't understand that powwows were outlawed

[1:51:44] by colonial policies lost in being recaptured is a big deal.

[1:51:51] It's a very big deal.

[1:51:52] And so for that to be going on,

[1:51:54] I wish I had been able to be there.

[1:51:56] I look forward to them having more so that I can go.

[1:51:59] I also wanted to acknowledge a meeting that we had here,

[1:52:02] and it was a public meeting,

[1:52:03] but it was during the day and a lot of folks

[1:52:04] might not have otherwise been able to see it.

[1:52:06] We want to thank Fraser Health Authority

[1:52:08] for sending us folks from their admin team,

[1:52:11] as well as having the Division of Family Practice and Math here and having a very good

[1:52:16] conversation about our healthcare future moving forward and you'll see a notice of motion

[1:52:21] that comes out of that in a moment. I was also able to be down at the racetrack on July 2nd

[1:52:27] and luckily they were able to get everything done because the rain rained the moment on July 3rd.

[1:52:32] It was the 10th avenue door wars and they had over 200 cars including people coming from all over

[1:52:38] North America to participate and a number of mission kids participated in the

[1:52:44] GBS junior dragsters. It's a very family event and these kids do a lot of work.

[1:52:49] They had traveled recently to Edmonton and come back. Some of them hadn't been

[1:52:53] home for more than a week. They've been, they come home for an hour and then

[1:52:56] started racing again. So it's a big, it's a big family thing down there and it was

[1:53:01] great to be a part of it. I also had a chance to attend two strategic planning

[1:53:05] planning sessions. The first was around our community wellness strategy.

[1:53:08] I look forward to Council being involved in more of that MHCC planning and looking at our needs moving forward around health and wellness in our community.

[1:53:16] And I was able to sit as part of the mission food table planning and I know some of Council was upstairs that same day at the penny doing the community conversation while I was downstairs in a food conversation.

[1:53:30] Unfortunately, it was a food conversation.

[1:53:31] Didn't have food at the food conversation,

[1:53:34] and I did point that out to you.

[1:53:35] It was a bit of irony.

[1:53:37] Okay, so that was, I thought I'd productive last couple

[1:53:40] of weeks.

[1:53:42] Okay, thank you for those updates.

[1:53:43] We'll move on now to two notices of motion.

[1:53:46] It happened to be both from me this evening.

[1:53:47] The first one is the healthcare planning symposium.

[1:53:49] Is there a seconder for the motion?

[1:53:51] Councilor Plexus, I think this motion

[1:53:54] was really the theme of our conversation

[1:53:56] with Fraser Health that day,

[1:53:58] But we didn't have enforce a specific motion behind the suggestion, and that's what this is aiming to do, specifically to ask Fraser how to engage in this process, as well as to work towards a plan that would go into the future, presumably five to 10 years into the future and be renewable from that point forward.

[1:54:18] Any comments or questions from members of council? Councilor Gill.

[1:54:21] Thank you, Mayor Horn, I do support the notice of motion that you have put forward.

[1:54:25] Just a question I have is, will we be inviting our MLA's?

[1:54:31] And then the second part of the question is, can Fraser Health commit to any funding without approvals from the province?

[1:54:39] Thank you, so those two questions are perfectly go hand in hand.

[1:54:43] I spoke with our MLA's and I think the initial meeting that we would have would be focused on

[1:54:48] an apolitical approach to understanding missions needs, it would involve members of the health care and social services community.

[1:54:55] And I think that's in line with the wishes of our MLA, so it would then be looped in and

[1:54:59] involved at later stages, which leads to the question you asked about a partnership that might involve the city,

[1:55:06] might involve hospital district, might involve funding that comes through other sources,

[1:55:10] such as we're seeing with our CT scanner, as well as might be in a request to the province.

[1:55:15] So keeping them in the loop will be very important.

[1:55:18] But at this first meeting, the idea would be to have health care people be in the room talking about what their experiences in our area.

[1:55:26] What isn't defined is what we mean by our area, and I think it was part of our consensus that we'd be open to it being more than missions boundaries.

[1:55:33] For example, we know that we serve a lot of people who live in the electoral areas to our east.

[1:55:37] So, I don't think we're strictly speaking about missions, hard boundaries, but about the population area that we serve.

[1:55:45] Any other comments or questions?

[1:55:48] I'll call the question.

[1:55:48] Then all those in favor?

[1:55:50] Opposed?

[1:55:50] It's carried.

[1:55:51] Thank you.

[1:55:52] Next is the other notice of motion for me.

[1:55:55] Is there a second for the motion?

[1:55:57] Councillor Gile.

[1:56:00] As I mentioned earlier, as we heard the Affordable Housing Strategy,

[1:56:03] when we get a social housing coordinator and our planning department,

[1:56:06] Presumably, Mr. Dickinson and Cheryl to be able to work together to give us a policy that will be

[1:56:12] Creative the Nage Island looking at possibilities. So the idea here is simply to empower staff to bring us things that might

[1:56:19] Be creative in the in the meantime. So if somebody comes, for example, and says they want to put a sizable amount of money into a pool for

[1:56:28] Housing fund as opposed to actually building it. There are a lot of reasons why that might be a good idea

[1:56:34] We might be able to actually make a dollar to go a lot further in a residential neighborhood

[1:56:38] for example, as opposed to just building on more apartments or all being concentrated one neighborhood.

[1:56:43] As we've also heard from a number of other community groups,

[1:56:46] people are interested in things like adding to our medical clinic space.

[1:56:50] We heard that from our Division of Family Practice.

[1:56:53] Daycares, spaces for literacy organizations, for organizations focused on diversity or youth.

[1:56:59] So there are a lot of different places where we could actually meet needs by dealing

[1:57:03] with developers who want to have a higher floor space ratio, and I think this gives us a bit

[1:57:09] of an opportunity to hear them as they come before us and perhaps even to inform our policy

[1:57:14] as it's created. Comments from other members of council? I'll call the question. All those in

[1:57:20] favour? Sorry, Councillor Davies, was that you? It is, yes. Thank you. So my question on this one

[1:57:28] Is this just for social needs items or is there flexibility in staff that bring other items such, if it was a delegation for lacrosse, for example, and something along that line came up, would that be supported as well?

[1:57:41] significant the final bullet point is meant to capture things like that significant opportunities for addressing other strategic needs that have identified by the city.

[1:57:50] Let's say for example that somebody came along and said they wanted to build a length of experience the Fraser Trail.

[1:57:56] That would be an example that we might entertain, I think, with this policy.

[1:58:00] If it's in our strategic planning, UMP, TMP, trails and parks, then I think it would be part of what staff would be empowered to consider.

[1:58:09] It would be still important for staff to be able to get, I'll put it in simple terms, a good deal before coming to Council.

[1:58:17] But that's what it would be, but be an example of something we might hear as a result of this.

[1:58:20] Great. Thank you. I just wanted to make sure that if it was broad, that we were just specifying that really clearly.

[1:58:27] So that's great.

[1:58:29] Any further questions from staff? Does that fit with the staff's understanding of the motion?

[1:58:34] Yes, it drives with my understanding.

[1:58:37] Thank you.

[1:58:37] Yeah, I'll call the question then. All those in favor? Opposed? It's carried unanimously. Thank you.

[1:58:42] Question period. So, matters arising from the agenda other than those in the closed public hearings.

[1:58:48] If you have a matter to bring to our attention raised from the agenda this evening, please let us know

[1:58:53] and you can either do it by, we don't have anybody online anymore, correct, Ms. Russell?

[1:58:58] So, if you are in chambers and wish to ask a question, this is your opportunity.

[1:59:03] Seeing nobody approving, approaching the microphone, I will ask for a motion to adjourn.

[1:59:08] Councillor Hamilton, Councillor Plexus, motion to adjourn, I'll call the question, all those in favor.

[1:59:15] Opposed? It's carried. Thank you very much. We are adjourned.

[1:59:17] Thank you.

[1:59:18] Staff, have a good night.

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