Agenda
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CALL TO ORDER
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DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST
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DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWLS
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A180.26
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A185.26
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A240.26
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A252.26
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A255.26
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A256.26
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A258.26
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A259.26
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A260.26
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A263.26
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A265.26
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A266.26
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A267.26
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A59.26
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A219.26
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And welcome to the Committee of Adjustment Hearing for September
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3rd, 2026. If you are attending virtually and new technical
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those attending virtually will be introduced by staff and staff
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will turn your microphone on. Those attending in person will
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be called upon by the chair to approach the podium
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if they wish to address the committee. The committee may
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ask you questions at the end of your presentation, an
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agents may be given a chance to respond to comments
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made by members of the public. We ask that everyone
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maintain respectful conduct at all times. If anything inappropriate is
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said, your microphone may be turned off and you may
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be removed from the meeting. Once all presentations are made,
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we move into the decision - making process and no
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further input from agents or members of the public will
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be permitted. Requests for deferrals will be handled at the
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beginning of today's hearing and no evidence will be heard
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today on those files. The Committee may or may not
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assign new hearing dates for items deferred at today's hearing.
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Once deferred hearing dates are finalised, everyone in the original
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circulation area, as well as those that have written in,
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registered to speak, or place their name on the sign
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- in sheet located beside the podium will be notified.
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If you are an applicant and you wish to defer
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your application, please raise your hands now, whether in person
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or using the virtual handraies feature to let us know.
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Members driven to declarations of conflict of interest on state's
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agenda? No, Alexander? Mr. Chair. Thanks, Alexander. Welcome to Committee
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of Adjustment for Thursday, September 3rd. Is there anybody in
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the audience that wishes to address, or sorry, wishes to
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defer withdrawn application? If you want to come forward and
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just give us your name and address and file number.
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Good afternoon. Oh, it's Max Comishenko 5. I live at
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39 Broly Avenue, Toronto, Ontario. File number A263. 26. 2202
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Stanfield. Correct. Okay. I would like to defer the application
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at this point. And have some time to speak with
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staff and so forth. Yes. Okay. Committee members, any questions
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or comments? Is there anybody in the audience as an
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interest in application A263 at 2202 Stanfield Road. No. Committee
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member satisfied to defer? So we'll defer the application. When
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you're ready to go, just contact Alexander, and then we'll
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put you on the next available agenda, okay? Thank you.
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Thank you. Have a good day. Is there anybody else
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in the audience which is to defer with Thrawn application
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on today's agenda. Alexander, anybody online that wishes to defer
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withdrawal? Yes, Mr. Chair, we have Caden Somerville with this
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hand up. Caden, you've been unmuted, you can go ahead.
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Good afternoon. I would like to defer phone number A255.
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26, 1776, Meyer side row. Okay. I guess you gotta
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do some work on that. Yeah, the other thing too,
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is I think the site plan that you guys have
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shown us looks like, you're not even gonna, I think
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you don't even have enough room on your aisle width
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to park your cars next to the building. So you
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may want to work on that as well. So we'll
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give you some time to deal with planning staff, and
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then you can come back when you're ready to go.
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Is Committee members, any questions or comments? Is there anybody
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in the eye that's has an interesting application A255 at
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1776 Meyerside Road Unit 1. No, Committee Sessel, I did
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defer. So Sir, your application has been deferred. When you're
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ready to go, just contact the committee office and they'll
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put you on a new agenda, okay? Perfect, thank you
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so much. Thank you, have a good day. Alexander, anybody
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else. Three, Mr. Chair, no further hands raised online. All
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right, so we'll start at the top of gender and
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work our way through. I'll call application A180 at 1381
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Trotwood Avenue. Is there anybody in the Irons has an
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interest in this application? Oh, Alexander, if you'd like to
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introduce the agent of the applicant, please. Yes, Mr. Chair,
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for this application, we have Daniel Begin registered. Daniel, you've
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been unmuted, you can go ahead. Get everyone here me.
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Give me my. Classes. Bottom. Yes, we can hear you,
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Daniel. Okay, thank you. Yeah, we had a driveway extension
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on the, I guess the top right. Where we were
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looking to take an existing structure, which was semi -
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permanent. And make it a permanent structure for a full
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concrete pour. We had drainage look at it, and we
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had the planning committee look at it. And they said
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it wouldn't be an issue, at least from their perspective.
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Um, I don't believe the neighbours that have concerns. We've
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spoken to all of them in our area. And it's
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basically taking what was a semi - permanent structure with
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eight by eight woods, uh, patio stones from a two
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foot to the property line to about six inches from
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the property line with a full concrete. So Daniel, before,
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is it. Talia, can you put up the photos from
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staff's provided. Is this basically what's there
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today, what you're looking to do? Yes. Okay. Community members,
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any questions or comments? Mr. Page? Thanks, Mr. Chair. Uh,
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just to be cautious here, so does the site then
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drain from the front to the rear. The front being
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the house. Well, let's say from the front line of
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the house to the rear. It does have a slope
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ad drainage slope as well, back to an existing. Man
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storage, not storage, string hog, manhole cover. Yeah, starting to
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interrupt, just the only reason I ask is the, uh,
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the edge of the elevation above the side where that
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garbage can is in this photo is higher than the,
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you know, the surface beyond. I just want to be
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sure it was draining back and not for it. It
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looks like based on your drawing. Thank you. Yeah, it
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drains both ways. And we had, um, a gentleman, John
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Sylvana look at it and say that the draining concerns.
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Where those bins are, um, are just patios. Daniel, don't
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worry about it. As long as John said, uh, he's
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okay with it, we're good to go. Uh, any other
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questions or comments. Alexander Comments, please. City recommends that the
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Committee of regard for all Commons and evidence brought it
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by the applicant area residents when assessing a felicity meets
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the requirements of Section 45, sub one of the planning
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act. The applicant may wish to defer the application to
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ensure all required variances have an accurately identified. No written
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submissions were received, no members of the public have pre
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- registered speak. Thank you. Is there anybody in the
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audience again that has an interesting application A180 located at
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1381 Trottwood Avenue. Seeing none ready for a motion, Mr.
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Page. Thanks, Mr. Chair. I'm going to move approval of
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the application meets the fore test. I do agree with
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staff planning comments. Um, draining development engineering has no issues
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with that. It looks good to me. Based subject to
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General Coach Florence of the drawings, please. Thank you, Dove
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Second, Mr. Dale. Uh, thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll second
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the motion. Committee members, any discussion on the motion. All
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those in favor. Any opposed? Daniel, your application has been
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approved by the Committee and General Cordens of the Drines
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presented today. Thank you very much. Thank you. Have a
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good day. Take care. Uh, next application is A185 located
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4482 Mayflower Drive. Is there anybody in the aids has
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an interest in this application? Good
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afternoon, sir. Good afternoon. So petition 18526. A widening the
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driveway. Sorry, just give us your name for the record,
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please. Love you, Musiro. Can you just move the mic
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up a little so we can hear you a little
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bit better? Slavim your suit. Okay. Thank you. Um, it
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looks like you have favorable planning staff comments and the
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audience are online that has an interest. Um, so basically
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you're just looking at increasing the driveway to 7. 3
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metres more year allowed six. That's right. Okay. Is it
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currently, is the driveway in existence? It's the one that's
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there now today. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. Um, Community members, questions
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or comments. Alexander Commons, please. The city is no objections
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to the application. The applicant may wish to defer the
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application to ensure all required variances have an accurately identified.
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Um, the recommendation notes a condition, but I don't see
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any conditions listed. I think that you might have been
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a typo. No written submissions were received. No members of
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the public. Hope you registered speak. Thank you. Again, is
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there anybody in the audience has an interest application A185
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at 4482 Mayflower Dry? Seen nothing ready for a motion,
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Mr. Rowan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll move a motion
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for approval. I think the driveway won't accommodate three cars
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across. It doesn't need a side variance for setback. And
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it doesn't dominate the front. And I think I'd move
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that in accordance to the drawings. Thanks. Do I have
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a second, Mr. Dale. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll second
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the motion. Committee members, any discussion on the motion. All
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those in favor. Any opposed? Sir, your application has been
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approved by the committee and general courts of the drawings
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present. Okay. Thank you. Have a good day. Thank you.
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Next application is A. 240 at 14. 07 Broadmoor Avenue.
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Is there anybody in the audience that has an interest
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in this application? No, Alexander, if you like to introduce
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the agent of the applicant, please. Yes, Mr. Chair, for
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this application, we have Emmett Paul Bensol. Emrat Paul, you've
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been unmuted. You can go ahead. Good afternoon. My name
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is Paul Banciel. I'm the agent on this file. Good
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afternoon. Um, you have favorable planning staff comments, but there
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was a letter on file from one of the neighbours
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with regards to this. Can you just give us a
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presentation on what you're looking at doing, please? Sir, do
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you miss the chair? Um, our proposal is to propose
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a cabana. That's adjacent to the existing tool. Uh, we're
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asking for three variances. Variance is number one. With a
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total accessory structure, uh, the permitted area, 60 square metres,
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and we're asking for 66. 8 square metres. So it's
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6. 8 square metre increase. Uh, we're also asking for
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a small high increase of a couple of inches. Uh,
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the bylaw requires 3. 5 metres in building height. And
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we're asking for 3. 64. We're also asking for a
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singular structure to be, uh, 58 point in two square
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metres. Uh, where the by - level requires 20 square
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metres for a single structure. So essentially what we're trying
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to do is consolidate. All the permitted structures into one
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focused area, uh, to be a cabana for the pool.
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The cabana is open from three sides with one side.
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Just a third of it closed off. Uh, for a
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change room and, uh, storage. So essentially, it's just an
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accessory structure to, you know, for open saving space just
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across the existing folder. Thank you. Committee members, any questions
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or comments. Mrs. Robinson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yeah. Question
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to the applicant. Is it really necessary for you to
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have a height variance, the immediate neighbours have a concern
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about the, what they're going to see. And, um, you
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know, your variance isn't big, but, but then that could
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mean that maybe you could lower it down to what's
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permitted. I threw you, Mr. Chair. We, we, we could
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lower the, the height down to comply. What we're trying
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to do is standard as the construction. So eliminating cutting
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the studs, uh, we're also trying to create a small
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little parapet, a couple of inches. Um, just to allow
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for drainage and not to fall off on their own
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side. So technically, yes, we could lower it. Um, but
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it's a matter of five inches what we're asking. For.
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Myself. I would like to see it lower to come
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fly. I don't have a concern about the size because
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that size, well, it's not a lot bigger than the
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total that's permitted. But I would like to see the
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height go down. Yeah. I don't have a problem with
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the height. I mean, we're talking about 15 centimeters. And
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I think there's a tree that is on the property
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of the neighbour next door that blocks it. I mean,
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I don't think six inches is going to really make
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an impact. So I'm, I don't think you need to
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lower it in my opinion. I'm not sure what the
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rest of the committee members think, but we'll deal with
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it when we go to a motion. Um, any other
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questions or comments? Alexander Comments, please. Yes, Mr. Chair. Uh,
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the city is no objection to the application. The region
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of peel is requesting a condition relating to servicing. One
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letter of objection was received. No members of the public
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up pre - registered speak. Thank you again. Is there
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anybody in the audience has an interesting application A240 located
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1507 Broadmoor Avenue. Ready for a motion then, Mr. Page?
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Thanks Mr. Chair. I'm going to move approval of the
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application. I do think it meets a four test. Uh,
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it's a very small increase in height. At the closest
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point to the property line, the structure, uh, meets or
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exceeds the required setback and is even more well away
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from, as due to the angle of the property line,
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it's well away from the, uh, the unit to point
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out the neighbour that wrote the letter has a tree.
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Pretty good sized tree there. Um, so I don't see
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that, uh, besides visibility, maybe in the winter, I really
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just don't see any impact to the neighbour that's not
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already occurring from what's there. Uh, subject to general conformates
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of the drawings, please. Thank you, Davis. Second. Mr. Rowan.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll second the motion. I find
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the height is acceptable. And if they don't need a
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side yard sat back, I think then it meets the
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four tests. But if it didn't decide you'd got setback,
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I understand what Mrs. Robinson is mentioning. I don't think
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we need. That condition. You have to. Go to this
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peel anyway, right? Committee members, any further discussion. All those
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in favor. Any opposed. Sir, your application has been approved
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by the committee and General Corrins with the drawings you
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presented to the committee today. Thank you very much. Thank
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you. Have a good day. Next application is A. 252
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located 5265 Terry Foxway. Is there anybody in the eye
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that has an interest in this application. No, Alexander. If
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you'd like to introduce the agent of the applicant, please.
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Yes, Mr. Chair, for this application, we have Sham Sayed
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registered. Shams, you've been unmuted. You can go ahead. And
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Mr. Church. I'm Seyut Macroesing. Six Rippon Street, Mrs. Saga.
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I say it. Um, you have favorable planning staff comments.
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There's nobody in the audience nor online that wishes to
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adjust committee on this application. Do you want to give
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us a brief presentation on what you're looking at doing,
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please? Thank you, Mr. Chair, through you. The application for
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the committee is very requesting. Minor variance for an interior
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side yard set back to a below grade entrance that
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blew facility date the building of a secondary unit in
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the basement. The requested setback is 0. 585 metres, whereas
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the buyer requires a minimum of 1. 20 metres. We
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feel that this is monitoring nature and does not have
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a negative impact on their neighbourhood or the property itself.
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Uh, and VR in some of the staff report. We
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kindly request the committee to consider and approve this application.
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Any questions I'll be glad to answer. Thank you. Thank
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you, sir. Committee members. Any questions or comments? Alexander Comments,
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please. City has no objections to the application. No written
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submissions were received. No members of the public up here
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registered speak. Again, is anybody in the audience has an
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interest application A. 252 at 5265 Terry Fox Wayne. Seeing
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none ready for a motion, Mrs. Robinson. Thank you, Mr.
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Chairman. I'll move approval of the application. Um, it's minor
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in nature. There's no drainage concerns. And in general conformance
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with the plan submitted. Thank you, Doves. Second and Mr.
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Ellis. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll second that motion. Community
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members, any discussion on the motion? All those in favor.
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Any opposed? Sir, your application has been approved by the
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committee and general courts of the joints presented to the
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committee today. Thank you and have an outstanding. Thank you.
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Um, application A. 255 for anybody who's tuning in or
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walked in late at 1776 Meyer side road unit. One
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has been deferred. Um, there is no scheduled hearing date
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if you've been, once we recirculate it, you'll get, uh,
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notice once we have a date. Next application is A.
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256 located 4562 Penhalo Road. Is there an interest in
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this application? No, Alexander, if you'd like to introduce the
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agent of the applicant, please. Yes, Mr. Chair, for this
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application, we have a DT decide registered. A DT, you've
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been unmuted. You can go ahead. Good afternoon, everyone. So
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we have. Uh, we are proposing an ADU in the
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basement. And for that, we need a below grade entrance
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on the side yad. And so we have after the
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retaining wall to the property line, we have three feet,
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five inches or 1. 05 metres that required setback is
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1. 2 metres. So asking relief for 0. 17 metres
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or 7 inches. And there is no negative impact on
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the property or neighbouring property. Um, there is a clearance
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for drainage purpose. So kindly request for the relief. Okay.
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Thank you committee members. Any questions or comments? Alexander Commons,
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please. Yes, Mr. Chair. Is no objections to the
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application. One letter of objection was received in one member
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of the public has pre - registered to speak. Thank
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you. Do you want to do some member of the
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public, please? Yes, Mr. Chair, let me just take a
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look. Here. I see we had a theatore fitch registered,
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but I don't see him online. Not sure. Let me
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take a look.
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Yeah, they did register successfully, but I don't see them
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online, Mr. Chair. Mr. and Mrs. Fitch, if you're online,
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do you want to raise your hand. If you've logged
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in under different. There are no hands rates, Mr. Chair.
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Is there anybody in the audience I'll ask again, A.
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256 at 4562 Penhalo Road has an interest in this
[18:44]
application? No. Um. Okay, we'll just move forward. I guess,
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uh, Mr. Ready for a motion, Mr. Page. Thanks, Mr.
[18:51]
Chair. Move approval, the application meets the four tests. Um,
[18:55]
Septic General conforms of the drawings. I know we've received
[18:57]
a letter. The letter has more to do than, um,
[19:01]
uh, people living there and police experience in Airbnb. The
[19:05]
fact is, is that, uh, multiple dwellings are allowed on
[19:08]
the site. And this is just simply an application for
[19:11]
access to what's legal. Thanks, Mr. Chair. Dove Second, Mr.
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Dale. Uh, thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll second the motion.
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Thank you. Um, discussion. Mr. and Ms. Svitch, I don't
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know if you're watching or not, but we did get
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your letter understanding. We do have some empathy for your
[19:26]
comments. But unfortunately, that isn't something that this committee has
[19:29]
jurisdiction over. Uh, my suggestion to you is if there
[19:32]
is issues with Airbnb, et cetera, there are some bylaws
[19:35]
and so forth that the city has imposed on that
[19:39]
you. So I would suggest reaching out to the local
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councillor and maybe getting them involved in getting by law
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out and ensuring that they're meeting all the requirements that's
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needed for, uh, the use that they have there. So,
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um, Committee members, any further discussion, all those in favor.
[19:55]
Any opposed. Ma'am, your application has been approved by the
[19:58]
committee. And General Corns at the drawing, you presented to
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the committee today. Thank you so much. Thank you. Have
[20:04]
a good day. Bye. Next application is A. 258 located
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2517 Argar Road. Is there anybody in the ioniz has
[20:12]
an interest in this application? Sorry. A. 258. At 2517
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Argyle Road. No, I thought we, no. We just did.
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We just did 256. Yeah. Do you want my glasses?
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Alexander, do you want to introduce the agent of the
[20:35]
applicant, please? You're not being helpful. Yes, Mr. Chair, for
[20:39]
this application, we have Sonia Di Michelle. Sonia, you've been
[20:42]
unmuted. You can go ahead. Good afternoon, everyone. It's Sonia
[20:46]
Di Michelle and I'm seeing the planning slaff comments. Do
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you want to move forward and present today. Yes. Okay.
[20:56]
Go ahead. So we're proposing to, uh, build an accessory
[21:01]
structure. On the, on the property. The property is a
[21:06]
fairly big structure. The neighbour beside us has a similar
[21:10]
structure to what we're proposing to build. Um, our lock
[21:15]
coverage, you know, it's going to be 7. 03 and
[21:19]
the maximum lock coverage is five. The height, we are
[21:22]
lower than our neighbour who has a similar structure. So
[21:27]
the height probably won't be into effect. And it's just,
[21:32]
it's just the lock coverage. Um, I guess we're at
[21:37]
140 in the maximum area of the structure is 20
[21:41]
metres squared. So just to confirm the structure is going
[21:45]
to be placed. It looks like on your site plan
[21:48]
when I visited the, uh, the, uh, the lot that
[21:52]
it's being placed right next to the structure that's on
[21:54]
the north side of your property. Correct. Okay. And I
[21:59]
think there was a couple, um, sheds that were on
[22:03]
there. I think you, they don't, they're not appearing on
[22:06]
this site plan. So I'm assuming that the tarped one
[22:09]
is being removed because it seems like it's in the
[22:11]
area of where the structure's going. Yes. They will all
[22:14]
be removed. All right. Mr. Rowan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[22:19]
Just, just a quick question. Um, like I looked at
[22:22]
the pictures. And when I was on site, you seemed
[22:24]
to have a lot of equipment. So I'm assuming that
[22:25]
the size of it is to accommodate the equipment that's
[22:28]
in the yard, like the ride lawnmower. Yes. Correct. Yes.
[22:32]
And it's not to facilitate motor vehicles like cars. No,
[22:36]
no. And will there be any connection of pavement that's
[22:39]
going to go back to that? No. Okay. Great. Thank
[22:42]
you very much. Committee members, any other questions. Alexander Commons,
[22:48]
please. City recommends that the application be deferred for redesign.
[22:53]
No written submissions have received. One member of the public
[22:55]
has pre - registered speak. Yes. Mr. Chair, we have
[23:05]
Diana Carlesimo registered. Diana, you've been unmuted. You can go
[23:08]
ahead. Hi, everybody. Thank you. Daphne, can you give us
[23:13]
your name and address for the record, please? Yep. So
[23:15]
this is Diana Carlesimo and my address is 2512 Rugby
[23:19]
Road. Okay. Um, so I just had additional questions, I
[23:27]
guess, regarding the structure. Um, I understand now placement, uh,
[23:31]
wise, uh, but I guess my worry behind it was
[23:36]
the actual size of the structure being so significantly large
[23:41]
as well as the additional six feet in height. What
[23:46]
the usual bylaw is, um, I guess my worry and
[23:50]
my question is more around is this just strictly a
[23:56]
storage, uh, building that's being built or is this going
[24:00]
to be used, rented out, is it for anything outside
[24:05]
of storage since it is a residential property? Yeah. Um,
[24:10]
so the question was asked of the agent, um, and
[24:16]
they mentioned that it is just for storage. Um, on
[24:20]
our site plan, it doesn't show any driveway leading up
[24:22]
to the, uh, to the, to the structure. And we're
[24:26]
going to, if we do approve it, we'll make it
[24:28]
subject to the joints presented so that there is no
[24:30]
driveway. And I don't think there's a wide enough between
[24:34]
the garage and the property line that they can drive
[24:37]
up there. So, um, as far as the evidence that's
[24:40]
been given, and we don't have anything to contrary, that
[24:43]
it is only being used for storage. And now the
[24:47]
only thing I can tell you is if they do
[24:49]
start to run a business out of there, then there
[24:51]
is bylaws in place and you'd have to, uh, call
[24:55]
the city and by law enforcement, we'll go down and
[24:57]
make sure that they're just using it for what they've
[24:59]
asked for today. Um, but outside of that, there's really
[25:03]
not much more that or any evidence to us that
[25:06]
shows it's being used as a business. Okay. Perfect. And
[25:10]
then I guess my only other question, just because we
[25:13]
do have additional issues from other properties. Um, that there
[25:19]
will be, is there any water, any sewer connections, or
[25:23]
is this strictly just a shed? Like there's no other
[25:26]
connection to anything? Uh, yeah, it doesn't show anywhere on
[25:29]
the plans that there's any, like any sewer or anything
[25:33]
being connected to it. Um, so yeah, it just looks
[25:36]
like it's, uh, just a shed for storage purposes. Okay.
[25:39]
So in the event, I thank you for that clarity.
[25:44]
Um, so in the event that there is something that
[25:47]
we see going forward that it is used for commercial
[25:50]
for anything outside of a strictly storage, then that's when
[25:54]
we would default to contacting bylaws and what that byline
[25:59]
will fall under. Yeah. So yeah. Um, the protect ourselves
[26:02]
beforehand. Yeah. No. So what I mean, we can't unfortunately,
[26:06]
you know, fortunately in Canada, you assumed innocent until pretty
[26:10]
guilty. So at the end of the day, what you'd
[26:12]
have to do is if the thing that occurs where
[26:15]
you see it that it's being used for anything other
[26:16]
than storage, then you'd have to contact the city and
[26:19]
just let them know. And then they'd send by -
[26:21]
law down to deal with it at that point. Okay.
[26:25]
Okay. Any other questions? Not at this time. Thank you.
[26:29]
Thank you. Mr. DeMishell, just to confirm, um, your satis
[26:39]
you're confirming that it is only for storage. There is
[26:41]
no utilities or anything that's being. Right. Okay. Um, all
[26:47]
right. Committee members, any questions or comments? Janice, did you
[26:49]
have a comment or question or motion. It's a question.
[26:54]
If, um, so this, if this gets approved and it
[26:57]
got built and it's the size of a house, 1500
[26:59]
square feet, a small house. If they decided they wanted
[27:03]
to use it as an ARU, would they have to
[27:06]
come back to committee for that. With the structure being
[27:09]
in place? Yes. Yeah. Because I think, because right now
[27:13]
it's been approved as a shed. Then if it converts
[27:16]
an ARU, then there's bylaws in place for ARU size,
[27:19]
which they wouldn't meet. So then they'd have to come
[27:21]
to the committee and request for a variance on that
[27:24]
if there was any that they need. Yeah. Okay. Committee
[27:28]
members, any other questions or comments ready for a motion
[27:31]
then? Mr. Page. Thanks Mr. Chair. Move approval of the
[27:37]
application. It meets a four tests. Um. Subject to general
[27:41]
conformance of the drawings satisfied that it's not going to
[27:43]
be used as an ARU appropriate to approve. Dove is
[27:47]
secondary, Mr. Ronin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll second the
[27:50]
motion. Committee members, any discussion on the motion. All those
[27:53]
in favor. Any opposed? So ma'am, your application has been
[27:57]
approved by the committee. Uh, and General Corrines of the
[28:00]
Drones you presented to the Committee today. Thank you very
[28:03]
much. Thank you. Have a good day. You too. Thank
[28:05]
you. Uh, next application is A259 at 4764. Yarmokrok court.
[28:14]
Anybody in the IS have an interest in this application.
[28:17]
Alexander, if you'd like to introduce the aging of the
[28:19]
applicant, please. Yes. Mr. Chair for this application. We've was
[28:21]
say Gulraz registered. Let's say you've been unmuted. You can
[28:23]
go ahead. Hi. Uh, I'm Nadia. I'm speaking on behalf
[28:29]
of Base Guresi nominated me as he was available for
[28:33]
this day. Um, sorry Naddy, before you go any further,
[28:39]
what's your last name, please? Uh, Natya Hanif. Okay. Have
[28:44]
you seen planning staff's comments. Uh, yes. I have read
[28:48]
those comments. Yeah. So they're suggesting that deferral. Well, two
[28:53]
things. Number one is I think the variance that you
[28:57]
were asking for was two six metres. But, or sorry,
[29:00]
to eight and a half metres, but I believe the
[29:01]
frontage of this lot only allows you six metre driveway,
[29:06]
which now you're, you're asking for 9. 23 metres versus
[29:09]
six metres. Um, so I think staff's asking for a
[29:12]
deferral for you to be able to sit down with
[29:15]
them and take a look at maybe redesigning the, uh,
[29:18]
or making the driveway a little bit smaller. Uh, I
[29:21]
tend to agree with them. I'm not sure what the
[29:23]
rest of the committee members feel. But I'll just ask
[29:26]
them. And then you can decide what you want to
[29:28]
do, Mr. Rowan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm not unsupport
[29:32]
of the current configuration. It can easily accommodate three vehicles
[29:36]
across that would be in, I wouldn't really follow through
[29:40]
the zoning. Thanks. Mr. Page. It's two wide needs to
[29:43]
be deferred. Committee members all agree. Okay. So, um, you,
[29:48]
the committee, the majority of the committee feel that, uh,
[29:51]
we can't support the application as it's being presented today.
[29:54]
So your two options are you can still present in
[29:58]
more than likely you're going to get turned down. Or
[30:00]
you can defer it and sit down with staff and
[30:02]
then come back to this committee with an amended application
[30:08]
that this committee may find favoring. So it's up to
[30:10]
you to decide what you want to do. Um, I'd
[30:14]
like to proceed with presenting. Okay. Go ahead. Um, okay.
[30:20]
I read the planning comments engineering comments, uh, regional field
[30:24]
comment zoning and MTO comments. So referring to the planning
[30:27]
comments that you've mentioned, um, the trucks of those comments
[30:31]
is that they want us to redesign the softscape. And
[30:36]
the contravention letter from the city indicates that we, that
[30:39]
we can, we do have an option to get back
[30:41]
to 8. 5 metres, um, a width of the driveway.
[30:45]
Yes. Sorry. Before you go any further, the individual that
[30:49]
sent that, I believe, uh, made an error. Zoning reviewed
[30:53]
it and their comments are that what you're allowed is
[30:56]
a six metre, six metre wide drive wave, my correct,
[31:01]
Steve. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah. We reviewed it with
[31:04]
zoning. Zoning's interpretation is that the frontage does only permit
[31:10]
a six metre wide driveway. Um, I think, uh, if
[31:14]
they were to proceed as is the other issue that
[31:16]
would be outstandings that the soft landscaping requirement that was
[31:19]
not asked for in the variance request. So there's two
[31:23]
things here. Just so you're clear. And you can still
[31:25]
proceed if you want. But at the end of the
[31:27]
day, the letter that you received from, uh, bylaw, I
[31:31]
believe that they misinterpreted it. You're only allowed a six
[31:34]
metre driveway, not eight and a half. So now you're
[31:37]
asking for a driveway of 9. 23 to six metres,
[31:42]
not to eight and a half metres. So that's a
[31:43]
larger discrepancy than you think it is when it was
[31:46]
at eight and a half metres. The second thing is
[31:48]
you may need another variance for, uh, soft landscape. So
[31:52]
if you move forward today, um, even if you've got
[31:55]
approved, which I don't think you would, you'd still need
[31:58]
another variance and have to come back to the committee
[32:00]
for the soft landscape variants as well. So I mean,
[32:04]
to me, I think you should defer it. Um, but
[32:07]
again, it's up to you on what you want to
[32:09]
do. Um, I'd just like to proceed with discussing it
[32:13]
a little more. No, no, we're not going to discuss
[32:15]
it. Your options are deferral. Or you present and we
[32:19]
make a decision. Uh, I'd like to present. Okay. Go
[32:23]
ahead. So, uh, I'd like to make a request that
[32:28]
the driveway width of six metre be retained where as
[32:31]
paredes original condition and the hardscape on the sides can
[32:35]
be reduced to softscape or redesigned as your previous comments,
[32:40]
um, and region of fields comments. There is a light
[32:44]
standard there right next to the hors scape on the
[32:47]
side. So, um, that's it. So, so the option would
[32:50]
be to get back to six metres of the original
[32:53]
condition and redesign the soft scale. Now I leave it
[32:58]
up to you to make the decision. Sorry, you want
[33:00]
to redesign the landscape in the softscape. Um, as for
[33:05]
planning comments, they are. Yeah. Why don't you defer the
[33:10]
application and get all that done and then come back
[33:13]
to the committee. Uh, all right. Like at the end
[33:17]
of the day you're allowed six metres. You, you can
[33:20]
ask for a variance that's greater than six metres, maybe
[33:23]
not 9. 5, 9. 23. You may, when you sit
[33:27]
down with staff, you may be saying, okay, I need
[33:30]
whatever that figure is. You can come back, include that
[33:34]
as part of the variance for the driveway and then
[33:38]
add the soft landscaping. If you require that as well.
[33:40]
And then deal with it all at one time versus,
[33:43]
um, being turned down today. Um, understood. So you wish
[33:49]
to defer. Yes. Okay. John, did you want to make
[33:52]
a comment. Yeah. Uh, Mr. Chair, you know, we mentioned
[33:57]
the potential for a soft landscape. I think even more,
[34:00]
it looks like it might need a zero setback. And
[34:03]
on top of that, uh, staff is mentioned at proximity
[34:05]
to potential issue with the proximity to utility pole. So
[34:09]
I think there's some other things on the plate that
[34:11]
needs to be dealt with. Sarah, did you want to
[34:14]
make a comment? Ms. Dudd, Mr. Page got it. Just
[34:17]
the hardscaping variance is also required. So, um, what I
[34:20]
would suggest is defer it and just work through it.
[34:23]
Um, again, it doesn't mean you have to go to
[34:25]
six metres. You can ask for a variance that's greater
[34:28]
than six metres. Uh, you can deal with the soft
[34:30]
landscape. There's also the zero metre setback as Mr. Page
[34:34]
is indicated, which you may be able to eliminate by
[34:36]
moving the driveway from that side. But those are things
[34:39]
you can work out with staff and then come back
[34:40]
to this committee and present at that time. And I
[34:44]
think it'll be a better option for you. Okay. Alexander,
[34:50]
do we want to give him a date. Yes, Mr.
[34:52]
Chair. We could bring this back on November the 26th.
[34:55]
That would mean that the Alicant would have to pay
[34:56]
their deferral fee and to submit any revisions by October
[35:00]
16th. So are you able to come back for November
[35:04]
the 26th. Okay. And you've got to, if the changes
[35:09]
that you're making to the drawings or anything like that,
[35:12]
it has to be done by October the 16th. So
[35:15]
my suggestion to use to reach out to, if you
[35:18]
don't know the planner's name, it's Sarah. Reach out to
[35:21]
the committee tomorrow. They'll give you, um, a, uh, her
[35:25]
contact information. Then you can set up a meeting with
[35:27]
her. Okay. Steve, did you want me to meet. Uh,
[35:31]
yeah, maybe just to add to the conversation a little
[35:34]
bit further, understanding that she received an order to comply,
[35:38]
uh, as long as the applicant is working with the
[35:40]
city to resolve the matter, the order is more or
[35:43]
less stayed while she works through that process. Just, it's
[35:46]
for her information. So as you know, as she works
[35:48]
through it. So did you hear what, uh, Mr. Sperling
[35:51]
said. Uh, yes, I did hear if you could. So
[35:55]
yeah, so basically I know you have an order to
[35:57]
comply. As you're still working through the process, they're not
[36:00]
going to enforce it until we deal with it. So
[36:03]
you don't have to worry about them coming to you
[36:06]
and moving on with this because you do have a
[36:07]
date now November 26. So, um, you're not, you're not
[36:10]
going to have to worry about the enforcement of that,
[36:13]
uh, outstanding order. For now. Unders. Okay. Committee member satisfied
[36:17]
to defer. So application has been deferred in November 26
[36:20]
contact. The committee office tomorrow. And they'll give you Sarah's
[36:24]
contact information. And then you can sit down with her
[36:27]
and go through the, uh, the process. Okay. Okay. Thank
[36:32]
you. Have a good day. Okay. Next application is A260
[36:39]
at 2318 Dundas Street West. Is there anybody in the
[36:42]
ion that has an interest in this application? All right?
[36:53]
Good afternoon. Good afternoon. You've seen planning staff comments. I
[36:56]
guess they're asking for refusal. I'm not sure if it
[36:59]
deferrals really going to mean anything to you or do
[37:02]
much for you. So if you want to present, please.
[37:04]
Yep. Absolutely. Um, so I'm Zachariah Bouchard. I'm a planner
[37:06]
with Glenn Associates. Agent on behalf of this file. So
[37:10]
we did read the staff report. And with respect to
[37:12]
staff, we met with a couple of times, uh, during
[37:15]
the process. We do appreciate, uh, but due disagree with
[37:17]
the recommendation for refusals. So I'll just give a brief
[37:20]
background on that. Um, this site was formerly a gas
[37:23]
station. It was demolished in 2018. And it's been vacant
[37:27]
in the eight years since. In 2020, there was a
[37:30]
temporary approval for car sales on this site. Um, but
[37:34]
no permanent structures were built in 2020 at that time.
[37:38]
The subject lands were designated motor vehicle commercial. Uh, in
[37:42]
the old official plan, which did not permit motor vehicle
[37:44]
sales. That temporary variance was approved by committee despite staff's
[37:48]
opinion at the variants did not meet the intent of
[37:50]
the official plan or the intent of the bylaw. Now
[37:53]
we have a new official plan in 2026. The site
[37:56]
has been redesignated to mixed use, which does permit motor
[37:59]
vehicle sales. Um, and in the staff report, staff agree
[38:02]
now that the application meets the incent of the official
[38:05]
plan. But of course, the site is still zoned C5
[38:07]
3, which doesn't permit motor vehicle sales and only permits
[38:11]
three specific uses. Being gas bar motor vehicle service and
[38:15]
motor vehicle repair. So over the past eight years, the
[38:17]
site has been undeveloped of vacant lots and planning policy
[38:21]
has evolved in the background for this new vision along
[38:24]
the DonDAS corridor. Uh, the area is also in a
[38:27]
major transit station area. And it's being enhanced through investment
[38:30]
in the dundas bus rapid transit project. So, uh, add
[38:35]
to that, there's approximately a dozen existing motor vehicle sales
[38:38]
uses within 500 metres of the sites, including at Dunwind
[38:41]
Drive and Aaron Mills Drive. So the changing kind of
[38:44]
planning policy context going on in the background here. Uh,
[38:47]
the applicant for this development is interested in developing a
[38:51]
motor vehicle sales building. And we would argue that motor
[38:54]
vehicle sales in this site is certainly more compatible than
[38:57]
a motor vehicle service or motor vehicle repair use, uh,
[39:00]
and, uh, more compatible than a vacant lot along a
[39:02]
rapid transit corridor. Um, the site would have no outdoor
[39:06]
display of vehicles for sale. There is adequate parking. And
[39:09]
the site would be well designed and support these active
[39:12]
pedestrian and transit goals in an MTSA more so I
[39:15]
would argue that a motor vehicle service and repair use.
[39:19]
It was an act of site plan application and process
[39:21]
to help ensure quality of design to the city satisfaction.
[39:25]
Um, there'll be a two metre road dedication along the
[39:27]
frontage there to meet the transit goals, uh, and the
[39:31]
investment in rapid transit. Planners on that site plan application
[39:35]
did ultimately recommend. We pursue minor variants for this use
[39:38]
as opposed to a rezoning. And we would welcome any
[39:41]
site plan conditions attached to a potential approval by committee
[39:44]
to be realised through site plan. Uh, and then finally
[39:49]
as a former gas station in a commercial cluster, we
[39:51]
would just argue that, uh, the site is not necessarily
[39:53]
appropriate for any other kind of residential or mixed use
[39:56]
opportunity without more significant remediation. So given that context, we
[40:01]
do believe this is an appropriate use. So we would
[40:04]
suggest, and like the committee to consider that although the
[40:07]
existing C5 3 zone doesn't contemplate motor vehicle sales as
[40:11]
a permitted use given the current planning contest context and
[40:15]
the existing site context, it's an appropriate use and meets
[40:18]
the general intent of the zoning by law to implement
[40:21]
the official plan and regulate compatible uses. Thank you. Thank
[40:26]
you. Committee members, any questions, Mr. Page? Yeah, just, I'm
[40:31]
okay with the proposal. I would just throw out. There's
[40:34]
some neighbour concerns about potential for lighting. I know they
[40:36]
don't abut. Um, but, you know, if you're going to
[40:39]
be having cars and display and probably want security and
[40:42]
all that stuff, a little bit of conscientiousness maybe about
[40:45]
how the light, that high can spill over. Thanks, Mr.
[40:48]
Chair. Community members, any other questions or comments? Alexander Commons,
[40:53]
please. The city recommends that the application be refused. The
[40:57]
building department is currently reviewing the site plan application and
[41:00]
notes variance is 15 and 6 are correct for variance
[41:03]
2, they note that the drawing submitted through the site
[41:05]
plan shall we'll landscape buffer of 1. 4 were the
[41:07]
variance is asking for 1. 5. They also note that
[41:11]
the site plan the frontier setback is shown at 2.
[41:14]
7 where the requested variance is 3. And they are
[41:17]
unable to confirm the accuracy of the centre line setback
[41:19]
variants. 2 letters of objection were received, one member of
[41:23]
the public has be registered speak and 1 petition of
[41:25]
objection was received as signatures from 7 members of the
[41:27]
public. Have you seen planning staff's comments? Do you want
[41:31]
to amend the application? Do you want to leave the
[41:34]
variances as you've requested? We leave it requested. Um, if
[41:37]
we made, uh, we adapted it from the site plan,
[41:41]
the initial site plan application in part to accommodate that
[41:43]
2 metre row dedication, which came up through site plants.
[41:47]
So Alexander, if we make it subject to the plans
[41:50]
that were presented, I guess they'll have to change those
[41:53]
to register flight. Three of you, Mr. Chair. I'm not
[41:55]
entirely sure. We need to tie this to drawings. They're
[41:56]
going through site plan approval anyways. That's the application that's
[41:59]
zoning note that they're reviewing. So if they're going through
[42:01]
site plan anyways, the city can address any comments they
[42:03]
have there. Is there anybody in the eye that's as
[42:05]
an interest in this application at A260 2318 Dundas Street
[42:10]
West. Now, Alexander, is there online that was just committee
[42:13]
on this application. Through you, Mr. Chair, we had a
[42:20]
Muhammad Khan request to speak. Don't see them online. Just
[42:25]
let me check quickly.
[42:35]
Yeah, no. It doesn't look like it. 3 Mr. Chair
[42:37]
doesn't look like they ever successfully completed the registration. Okay.
[42:41]
Sir, just want to come back up to the podium.
[42:44]
And that was the only person that registered, right? Okay.
[42:46]
Committee members, do you have any questions or comments. If
[42:50]
not, ready for a motion. Mr. Rowan. Thank you, Mr.
[42:58]
Chairman. I'm going to move a motion for approval. I
[43:00]
think the fact that it doesn't meet the intent of
[43:03]
the official plan and it is permitted in the new
[43:05]
official plan. I look at the area in the built
[43:08]
form. I think it is compatible to what's there. And
[43:11]
I think it's a minor deviation in terms of the
[43:12]
zoning. If it didn't meet that test, um. Did it
[43:16]
be amend that. No, we didn't. Uh, no. Okay. So
[43:20]
we would approve that. And we're not bataching it to
[43:23]
the drawings because it's going through cyclan approval. So thanks.
[43:26]
Dove, a second, Mr. Dale. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll
[43:30]
second the motion. Committee members, any discussion on the motion,
[43:33]
Mr. Page? Thanks, Mr. Chair. I'm going to, I support
[43:36]
the motion. I'm not sure that we hit with the
[43:39]
letters had asked for. They think there was some concern
[43:42]
about motor vehicle traffic. Derived from this. Um, I, unless
[43:47]
it's people coming from the residential area to Dundas to
[43:50]
access the motor vehicle sales area, it seems like it's
[43:53]
really, uh, facing done DAS and relative to that direction.
[43:56]
And, uh, and not the neighbourhood. So I'm not seeing
[43:59]
any issues with, uh, headlights, et cetera. And as I
[44:02]
understand it, the building itself meets the setbacks. It's just
[44:07]
some landscape buffers and relationship to Dundas, if I'm not
[44:11]
mistaken. Thanks, Mr. Chair. Thanks, Mr. Page. And just to
[44:15]
add to that, I mean, at the end of the
[44:16]
day, it's a commercial property. Something can be built there.
[44:19]
You're going to have people visiting that site no matter
[44:22]
what. So I don't think you're going to get any
[44:23]
more traffic with what the use is being asked for
[44:26]
today than anything else. So I'm going to support the
[44:29]
motion as well. All those in favor. Any opposed. So
[44:33]
your application has been approved by the committee. Thank you.
[44:35]
Good day. Uh, anybody watching or that came in late
[44:38]
A263 2202 Stanfield Road has been deferred. Um, next application
[44:45]
is A265, 1646, would even drive. Is there anybody in
[44:49]
the INS has an interest in this application? No, Alexander,
[44:52]
if you'd like to just see easier, the applicant, please.
[44:54]
Yes, Mr. Chair, we have Caden Somerville registered for this
[44:56]
one. Caden. You've been unmuted. You can go ahead. Good
[44:59]
afternoon. Uh, chaired members of the committee. My name is
[45:03]
Caden Sogo and our representing the application. A265 0. 26
[45:08]
at 1646 wedding drive. Um, you have favorable planning staff
[45:13]
comments, but I believe there's someone in the line that
[45:16]
wishes address committee. So if you want to give us
[45:18]
a presentation on what you're looking at doing, please. Absolutely.
[45:22]
The application request permission to increase the permitted gross floor
[45:26]
area from approximately 329 to 363 square metres to accommodate
[45:32]
an addition on the house. This is the Onlyvariance required
[45:35]
as a proposal compliance with the zoning requirements for height.
[45:39]
A lot coverage dwelling death and setback. In our opinion,
[45:43]
the variance satisfies the fore test under the planning act
[45:46]
maintains the character of the neighbourhood and will not negatively
[45:49]
affect neighbouring properties or the streetscape. Like you mentioned prior,
[45:53]
planning staff has no objection to the application and the
[45:56]
application agrees to satisfy the recommended forestry condition for the
[46:00]
protected protection of the city Owen treat. Anything further, do
[46:09]
that. That's all. Okay. Uh, comments, questions, Mr. Page. Thanks,
[46:16]
Mr. Chair. I know that there was a little bit
[46:18]
of concern expressed. So let me just, uh, get you
[46:22]
to underline. So this is just your request for what,
[46:25]
360 additional square feet. But the side yard setbacks, no
[46:29]
rear, no front yard setbacks. Uh, no height variances, no
[46:34]
lot coverage. Variances, no building depth coverage as a variance.
[46:41]
Is that correct? You don't have any additional variances. Exactly.
[46:46]
Thank you. Yeah. And just to confirm, I think one
[46:51]
of the neighbours mentioned about overlook and so forth. I
[46:54]
mean, first of all, you're allowed to build a two
[46:56]
- story home here. So no matter how, even if
[46:59]
they built to the GFA that's required, you're allowed. There's
[47:03]
going to be windows and there'll be two - story
[47:05]
home there. But on the side, uh, on their side,
[47:10]
I guess, uh, when you're facing the house, um, it
[47:14]
looks like you've only got a window in the office
[47:16]
study, a window in the storage, and then a window
[47:19]
in the bedroom that's kind of at the front of
[47:21]
the house. Is that correct? Yes, sir. Okay. All right.
[47:26]
Um, Alexander comments, please. City has no objections to the
[47:31]
application. The forestry division has requested a condition relating to
[47:34]
securities. Three letters of concern were received. One member of
[47:37]
the public has to be registered to speak. Thank you.
[47:40]
Um, do you want to introduce a member of the
[47:42]
public, please? Alexander? Yes, Mr. Chair, for this application, we
[47:45]
have Ed Arendel registered. Ed, you've been unmuted. You can
[47:48]
go ahead. You've been unmuted. You can go ahead.
[48:01]
There we go. Go ahead, Mr. We can hear you.
[48:05]
Yep. Just give us your name and address. For the
[48:07]
record, please. Uh, my wife and I have been resident.
[48:11]
Oh, my name is Ed Arandel and Levi at 9H
[48:16]
7 Vangeli. Okay. Go ahead. Uh, our property is immediately
[48:22]
behind the property at 1646, Woudinho. Our house designed a
[48:27]
similar to the current design at 1646. We share a
[48:31]
sizable portion of the backyard pinched with 1646 property. Um,
[48:36]
my main concern is in regard to the impact of
[48:39]
the larger footprint. Um, and the, uh, the size of
[48:44]
the roof on stormwater or snow melt run off on
[48:47]
our property. Yes. So what they'll have to, sorry, just
[48:52]
to, as they go through the building permit process, they'll
[48:56]
have to get clearance from, um, development and construction committee
[48:59]
with regards to drainage. They'll have to provide a drainage
[49:02]
plan. Um, their drainage will have to be self -
[49:05]
contained and drained to the front of the houses that,
[49:08]
I guess, is today. So that'll be addressed through that
[49:11]
process. Oh, that, uh, that answers most of my questions.
[49:16]
We really appreciate that that has to happen. Uh, hopefully
[49:20]
the eavesdrop greening will flow to the front of the
[49:23]
house as well. Uh, that would solve much of my
[49:26]
concern. Yeah. Whatever, as I said, they'll have to get
[49:29]
through that process with, uh, development. And typically in the
[49:33]
city of Mississaugi have to, you drainage have to be
[49:35]
self - contained. So they'll have to, whatever, however it
[49:38]
drains now, they'll have to maintain that. Um, and they'll
[49:40]
have to get that approval before they can build the
[49:43]
house through the building permit process. Great. The only other
[49:48]
thing I'd say is they've been good neighbours and their
[49:49]
kids are fun to watch. And, uh, there have been
[49:52]
some water issues in the past, uh, two or three
[49:55]
times, but in the 30 years that we've been here,
[49:58]
and they've been worrying, but not, uh, overwhelming. Thank you
[50:02]
for your comments committee members. Any questions for the neighbour?
[50:05]
Thank you, sir. We appreciate your comments. Thanks. Again. Is
[50:10]
anybody else in the audience as an interest in this?
[50:13]
No, Mr. Somerville, is there anything you wish to add
[50:15]
before we go to a decision. No, sir. Ready for
[50:19]
a motion then, Mr. Page. Thanks, Mr. Chair. Move approval
[50:23]
of the application. I do believe meets the forecasts. This
[50:27]
just has no other variances other than a little bit
[50:28]
of square footage. Um, subject to general conformance to the
[50:33]
drawings, please. Do I have a sector, Mr. Ellis? Thank
[50:36]
you, Mr. Chair. Yes. I'll second that motion. Committee members,
[50:41]
any discussion on the motion, all those in favor. Any
[50:45]
opposed? Sir, your application has been approved by the committee.
[50:48]
Subject to the drones presenting. Thank you so much. Thank
[50:50]
you. Have a good day. Yes, well. Thank you. Next
[50:54]
application is A. 266 located 1720 Sherwood 4 Circle. Is
[50:58]
there anybody in the eyes as an interest in this
[50:59]
application?
[51:09]
Jane, sir. Gaston, you, Mr. Chairman members of the committee.
[51:16]
My name is Maurice Lukic. Shun with GSAI. We are
[51:20]
the agents for the applicants. At short before circle. So
[51:24]
you have favorable planning staff comments, but I know that
[51:26]
there's two neighbours online that we should address committee. So
[51:29]
if you just want to give us a presentation on
[51:31]
what you're looking at doing. Sure. So I can run
[51:34]
through this quickly. Next slide. Or is it me? Do
[51:41]
I draw? Okay. You drive. Thank you. Um, so just
[51:45]
to, just to clarify for everyone, this is, uh, variances
[51:48]
with regards to the residential block. Um, it's West and
[51:51]
Mississauga Road, South of Dundas, but it's actually accessed only
[51:54]
from Sherwood Forest Circle. This is a block that's been
[51:58]
subject to rezoning and plan of subdivision and now site
[52:01]
plan approval applications. Next slide. The site is designated residential
[52:10]
low density 1 in the brand new city's official plan.
[52:14]
This shows the zoning, um, uh, approval on the left.
[52:18]
I tried to splice to show you what was the
[52:20]
old R 16 16 zoning. Which had a site -
[52:24]
specific schedule to outline little blocks for particular buildings. The
[52:30]
1 on the right is a replacement schedule that actually
[52:32]
was before this committee this past December. Where as a
[52:37]
result of processing the site plan, we did some modifications
[52:40]
to the buildings and all of that. And that has
[52:42]
now been approved on the right. Next slide. So we
[52:52]
prepared this lotting plan, uh, and it got submitted with
[52:55]
the materials and we thought we might, in case there
[52:57]
was residents interested or watching, we thought we would include
[53:01]
this to explain the variances seamworthy, but the reasoning and
[53:08]
logic, um, behind that, uh, the project is still continuing
[53:13]
with 41 detached wellings. Nothing is changing on that. They
[53:18]
are the same. It's the same project that's been before
[53:20]
the city for the past year. The variances which are
[53:23]
before us or as a result of interpretation issues, which
[53:26]
have come up from zoning staff as a result of
[53:30]
the advancing and processing of the site plan application. So
[53:34]
the variances that we have deal with, um, different house
[53:38]
types and model elevations. And so what we try to
[53:42]
do is to capture them all with the plans that
[53:45]
you're going to see, I'll cycle through a few. That
[53:49]
will apply to these lots and questions. So we're using
[53:52]
this as an easy way for everyone, particularly for permit
[53:55]
staff down the road and zoning to be able to
[53:58]
understand where the variances applied because they are being asked
[54:01]
and tied to specific addresses. Which have been assigned by
[54:05]
the city. Uh, next slide, please. So the first variance
[54:12]
to talk about is, uh, is a request for height.
[54:16]
So again, the interpretation issue, which came up, uh, which
[54:20]
the, can you see how on the sideshot there is
[54:23]
what I'll call an asymmetrical roofline, uh, you see one
[54:27]
side, you see the other. So what has happened is
[54:30]
the design team thought that would be still considered a
[54:33]
sloped roof and city has said, no, we can call
[54:35]
it flat. So then the request is to go from
[54:40]
the 12. 6 metre permission to 13. 2 metres. Because
[54:44]
now we have to measure to the top. Again, it's
[54:46]
the same house, the same drawings. There's just a new
[54:49]
way that we have to measure. Next slide. This variance,
[54:55]
and again, I thought I would isolate this one applies
[54:58]
for lots that are interior to the, to the project.
[55:02]
So they do not overlook or are included on any
[55:05]
of the lands which but existing homes on Sherwood Forest
[55:09]
circles. They're all, uh, again, going to be part of
[55:12]
the future development, but let's say removed by one block
[55:16]
interior to the site. Next slide. So this variance and
[55:24]
then the next ones that I'm going to go through,
[55:26]
um, they result from the city advising us that the
[55:29]
building projection has to be measured on three sides. So
[55:33]
that has sort of imbalanced the math and thrown off
[55:37]
the percent window coverage that we need to have. So
[55:40]
the first of the projection variances is to ensure that
[55:43]
if there is a lowered rear yard condition, there's going
[55:47]
to be a fixed point. So we've just sort of
[55:49]
drawn a red line there. Where that's the percentage which
[55:53]
you, or the percent, sorry, the measurement of the amount
[55:56]
of wall that you will measure for the purposes of
[55:58]
deciding and meeting the window coverage number. So that, that
[56:02]
was the first variance again. We had to do this
[56:04]
as a technicality now because of the way, um, so
[56:08]
just, I mean, to put it in English, and if
[56:12]
I'm reading this right, in two dimension, you're okay with
[56:16]
the windows, but because you've got projections and you're measuring
[56:19]
the sides of those projections, that puts you over the
[56:23]
window mount. So it's more of a technical in nature.
[56:27]
If you didn't have the projection, it was flat against
[56:29]
the wall, you would be fine. You wouldn't need these
[56:31]
variances. That's what's happened. Correct. Thank you. Yeah. Next slide,
[56:36]
please. So that was a nice prequel to this slide.
[56:46]
So the architect's drawings are actually showing the arrow is
[56:49]
pointing to a part on their drawings, which is trying
[56:51]
to explain this and what has going on. So to
[56:54]
your point, Mr. Chairman, instead of just measuring the 2D
[56:59]
plane wall, we are now having to measure the sides
[57:02]
of the projection. And so the math is being thrown
[57:06]
off. So this is the first one where there is
[57:08]
a rear wall projection. And, um, this is the first
[57:12]
request before the city. Next slide, please. And. This is,
[57:19]
um, minor variance number 4. And again, this is 4A.
[57:23]
We're calling it a 2 story front wall projection. And
[57:26]
again, we're showing the arrow to show you the area
[57:28]
that had to be measured. I'm going to pause here
[57:31]
for a minute and also just point out something that
[57:32]
we've noted in our, in our submission materials. Uh, that
[57:36]
in my opinion, when you look at this and all
[57:38]
the other drawings that you're going to see coming after
[57:40]
this, um, while the math mathematically, we might be offside.
[57:46]
And so you look at the math and the requests
[57:48]
of the variances aesthetically and in terms of the designs,
[57:52]
um, they look typical and they certainly match in our
[57:56]
in keeping with the balance of the character of each
[57:58]
house model. There's nothing. The math doesn't give you the
[58:01]
true story. These are the plans and this is the
[58:04]
way it will be built. But again, it's basically the
[58:07]
denominator is becoming larger and it's shrinking the percentage once
[58:11]
you keep the same numerator. The numerator being the window
[58:14]
coverage. So basically except for variance number 1 2 through
[58:19]
7 are exactly what you've described just with different, um,
[58:25]
homes and different architecture and stuff. So you know what
[58:28]
just rifle through the, you don't have to explain each
[58:30]
one. Just won't. So we'll just, I'll just keep showing
[58:32]
you. We can just, you can keep flipping whomever is
[58:35]
doing this. Thank you for doing this. So there's another
[58:37]
example. Again, this will be a front wall, second wall.
[58:40]
Next story. Very next slide. And then, uh, variance number
[58:45]
six again for a smaller unit. And then number seven.
[58:50]
So again, it's the exact same issue. It's a math
[58:53]
interpretation question, which is before committee today. I would love
[58:56]
to have been in the brain of the person that
[58:58]
came up with this. Bylaw. Like we must be sitting
[59:02]
there at night going, Hey, how can we make things
[59:03]
more difficult for everybody. Um, Committee, sorry, did you have
[59:07]
anything else you want, Dad? That's, I think. Committee members,
[59:10]
any questions or comments? Alexander Commons, please. Yes. Mr. Chair.
[59:15]
City recommends the Committee of regard for all comments and
[59:17]
evidence provided by the applicant narrow residence when assessing if
[59:19]
the application meets the requirements to section 45, 71 to
[59:21]
the planning act. The applicant may wish you defer the
[59:23]
application to ensure the accuracy they requested variances and that
[59:25]
additional variances are not required. Um, I will just note
[59:27]
there was a bit of a formatting issue on the
[59:29]
notice. They're all the information that's still correct on there.
[59:33]
Uh, we'll fix it in the decision variances. The original
[59:36]
variance is four and five got combined into four. And
[59:38]
the variances on the Note is six and seven are
[59:39]
actually one variant. So, but we'll correct that in the
[59:42]
decision. Two letters of objection were received and two members
[59:44]
of the public high pre - registered speak. Mr. Lucuch,
[59:47]
before, go to the members of the public for variance
[59:50]
number one with the height, the structure hasn't changed. It's
[59:54]
just the bylaw that's changed on how you measure height
[59:57]
now opposed to mid roof. It's at the peak, correct?
[1:00:00]
Correct. The place where zoning has decided you interpret the
[1:00:05]
top of the house instead of being the midpoint. Because
[1:00:08]
again, the architect thought that would be deemed a sloped
[1:00:10]
roof structure. And now zoning has said, no, we're going
[1:00:12]
to be, the slope at, uh, I think member John,
[1:00:16]
you correct me, 212 slope is considered a very low
[1:00:18]
slope and pitch of the roof. And therefore they're saying
[1:00:20]
we call that a flat roof. You now have to
[1:00:23]
go to the highest element. So it's just, again. And
[1:00:26]
those, those units appear towards Mississauga Road in behind the
[1:00:31]
units on, um, on Forest, the further ease. They're not,
[1:00:36]
they're not any of the units that will be, um,
[1:00:38]
next to Sherwood 4 circle box. Great. If you want
[1:00:40]
to seat for a moment, we'll go to the members
[1:00:42]
of the online. Alexander, if you want to introduce members
[1:00:46]
online that wishes to address committee on this application. Yes,
[1:00:53]
Mr. Chair. First up, we have Teresa Pamata. Terisa, you've
[1:00:58]
been unmuted. You can go ahead. Yes. Hello. Um, thank
[1:01:04]
you. Um, I didn't actually really have any questions. Just,
[1:01:10]
can you just give us your address for the record
[1:01:11]
just so that we can put that in our? Yes.
[1:01:14]
I'm Teresa Pamitat and I live at 1698. She worked
[1:01:18]
for a circle. And I back on to part of
[1:01:21]
the development. So I've just been involved with this, um,
[1:01:25]
parcel of land since it came up for sale with
[1:01:28]
the sisters in 2018. So I'm just following along. I
[1:01:31]
didn't have any particular questions or comments. I just want
[1:01:34]
to keep in the loop with these, uh, minor variances
[1:01:37]
that are being addressed today. So I appreciate all the
[1:01:40]
information. Thank you. Committee members, any questions? Thanks Mr. Pametat.
[1:01:46]
Um, Alexander, do you want to introduce the next person,
[1:01:48]
please? Through you, Mr. Chair, we did have the Hendry's
[1:01:53]
registered. However, they do not appear to be online. Okay.
[1:01:56]
Community members, any question. Uh, sorry, Mr. Liquidch, do you
[1:01:58]
want to come back up to the podium. I'm assuming
[1:02:05]
you have nothing further you wish to add to the
[1:02:07]
discussion. No, Mr. Chairman, if there had been questions, I
[1:02:11]
would have certainly answered them. I think we're good to
[1:02:13]
go. Ready for a motion then. Committee members. Mrs. Robinson.
[1:02:20]
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm of approval of the application.
[1:02:23]
It's many variances. They're all technical. I don't think the
[1:02:26]
proposal has changed at all. It's just the way the
[1:02:28]
bylaw was written and now how it's being interpreted. And
[1:02:31]
I don't think we need it to be subject to
[1:02:33]
the plans because they're going through cycline approval. Thanks, Mrs.
[1:02:37]
Robinson. Do I have a second, Mr. Rowan. Thank you,
[1:02:40]
Mr. Chairman. I'll second the motion. It's a minor deviation
[1:02:43]
from the original site schedule through the rezoning and it's
[1:02:46]
appropriate. Sorry, Committee members, any discussion on the motion. Um,
[1:02:51]
just to address, I think some of the letters that
[1:02:53]
came in, like the zoning in here has gone through
[1:02:58]
a process that I think was approved a few years
[1:03:00]
ago. So at the end of the day, we're not,
[1:03:02]
um, litigating the zoning. It's allowed to be built here.
[1:03:06]
All we're really doing is dealing with variances as the
[1:03:09]
presentation has gone through really technical in nature, more than
[1:03:13]
anything. So I think they do meet the four tests.
[1:03:15]
I'm going to support the motion. All those in favor.
[1:03:19]
Janice. Any opposed, sir, your application has been approved by
[1:03:23]
the committee. Thank you. Next application is A267 located 6685
[1:03:30]
Pacific Circle. Is there anybody in the INS has an
[1:03:33]
interest in this application? No, Alexander, if you'd like to
[1:03:35]
introduce the agent of the African place. Yes, Mr. Chair,
[1:03:38]
for this application, we have Nicholas Multiregistered. Nicholas, you've been
[1:03:41]
unmuted. You can go ahead. I, good afternoon, Mr. Chair,
[1:03:44]
members of the committee. My name is Nicholas Malta. I'm
[1:03:46]
a planner with mainline planning services. Uh, we are the
[1:03:49]
authorized planning agent. For the property owner. Um, you have
[1:03:52]
favorable planning staff comments. Uh, just give us a real
[1:03:55]
brief presentation on what you're looking or asking for. Of
[1:03:59]
course, uh, the proposal is a technical variance which seeks
[1:04:02]
to bring an existing site condition into compliance with the
[1:04:06]
zoning by law because of a condition to convert this
[1:04:08]
property into condominium tenure. Uh, we are aware of the
[1:04:11]
staff has no objections to the application and that you
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have mainlines, uh, or rather our considered and professional planning
[1:04:17]
opinion that the proposal meets the four tests and is
[1:04:20]
good planning. Um, thank you for your time. I'm available
[1:04:23]
turns to any questions. Thank you. Committee members, any questions
[1:04:26]
or comments. Do you have a question. Okay. Uh, Alexander
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Commons, please. City is no objections to the application. No
[1:04:34]
written submissions were received. No members of the public. I
[1:04:36]
pre - registered to speak. Ready for motion, Mr. Page.
[1:04:41]
Thanks, Mr. Chair Move Approval Application meets four test case
[1:04:44]
of the, they didn't cross the line crossed them. Dove,
[1:04:49]
second, Mr. Dale. Uh, thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll second
[1:04:51]
the motion. Yes. Oh. Committee members, any discussion on motion.
[1:04:57]
All those in favor. Any opposed? Sir, your application has
[1:05:00]
been approved by the Committee as presented. Thank you very
[1:05:03]
much. About your state. Have a good day. You too.
[1:05:05]
Thanks. Next application is A59 located 1271 Lauren Park Road.
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Is there anybody in the Irons have an interest in
[1:05:12]
this application? Alexander, want to introduce the agent of the
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Afflicton, please. Yes, Mr. Chair, for this application, we have
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Michael Barton. Michael, you've been unmuted. You can go ahead.
[1:05:22]
Good. Afternoon. My name is Michael Barton. NB1 development consulting.
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I have the agent for the property owner. Good afternoon.
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It seemed like you have favorable planning staff comments. So
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do you, and then you want to give us a
[1:05:36]
brief presentation on what you're looking at doing, please. Absolutely.
[1:05:40]
So this was previously deferred. Uh, so this, this variance
[1:05:44]
application relates to retain lands from a previous city approved
[1:05:49]
consent application. So the change was that the owners would
[1:05:53]
like to retain the existing dwelling for, uh, at this
[1:05:57]
time as opposed to demolishing it immediately. So the two
[1:06:01]
variances that are requested relate to, uh, maintaining the existing
[1:06:05]
homes. So the, the interior side yard setback is the
[1:06:09]
existing setback today. And then the rear yard setback is
[1:06:12]
a setback that's being created to the severed lot next
[1:06:16]
door. So the, the primary concerns that were raised by
[1:06:19]
staff, uh, and the reason for the deferral were for
[1:06:22]
drainage and grading. So we did go back and meet
[1:06:26]
with development engineering staff, uh, provide grading a servicing plans
[1:06:30]
that they were satisfied with to come back forward. So
[1:06:33]
we will be then, uh, finally addressing those matters through
[1:06:37]
finalising the severance. Um, so today again, we're just looking
[1:06:41]
for the approval of the two variances that we'll allow
[1:06:43]
the existing dwelling to remain on the retain lands. Okay.
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Committee members, any questions or comments? Alexander Commons, please. City
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recommends that the Committee of our guard for all commons
[1:06:54]
and evidence provided by the applicant in area residents when
[1:06:56]
assessing up the application meets the requirements of section 4571
[1:06:59]
of the planning act. The applicant may wish to defer
[1:07:00]
the application to ensure the accuracy that requested variances and
[1:07:03]
the additional variances are not required. The forestry division is
[1:07:06]
requesting a condition relating to tree securities. No written submissions
[1:07:11]
were received as a result of the circulation. No members
[1:07:12]
of the public have pre - registered to speak as
[1:07:14]
this is a deferred file. And you all previous emissions
[1:07:15]
that have not been amended remain enforced and effect. Thank
[1:07:17]
you very much. Alexander. Committee members is again, is the
[1:07:23]
IS has an interest in application A259 at 1271 Lauren
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Park Road? No seeing none. Ready for a motion, Mr.
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Page. Thanks, Mr. Chair. Move approval of the application meets
[1:07:34]
four tests and general conformits of the drawings, please. Do
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I have a second, Mr. Rowan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[1:07:40]
I'll second the motion. Community members, any discussion on the
[1:07:43]
motion. All those in favor. Any opposed? Sir, your application
[1:07:48]
has been approved by the Committee and General Court of
[1:07:50]
the Johns presented to the Committee today. Thank you. Thank
[1:07:53]
you. Have a good day. That ends our agenda for
[1:07:55]
the day. Oh, sorry. No, we got another one. Uh,
[1:07:58]
A219 at 929, 930 Crozier Court.
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Good afternoon, Mr. Odd. Good afternoon. Good one. I'm sure
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you've seen planning staff comments, but, uh, you do want
[1:08:16]
to move forward. I guess that really, it deferrals not
[1:08:19]
going to accomplish much. No, I'll explain the situation and
[1:08:23]
very clearly. The reason for why we were going forward
[1:08:27]
today and why we had supportive comments initially and now
[1:08:31]
comments, uh, an opposition of the proposal. Um, just as
[1:08:35]
a quick note, if I can have the, uh, the
[1:08:37]
screen, please. Guys, can you guys switch it over to
[1:08:41]
the overhead? Please. Thanks. It's there. Okay. Thank you. Um,
[1:08:46]
this is the, uh, the current list of variances just
[1:08:48]
so the committees aware. Alexander as well as planning both
[1:08:51]
have them. There was a couple of, uh, small tweaks
[1:08:55]
in the list of variances pertaining to what was, uh,
[1:08:58]
provided as part of the circulation, uh, the two items
[1:09:01]
were varianced number five, just so the committees aware, the
[1:09:04]
flat roof height of the carport, uh, there was a
[1:09:07]
slight change in that 3. 83 metres. It's within the
[1:09:10]
new comments. Uh, the ARU height was determined also by
[1:09:15]
zoning because it's from established grade to be a bit
[1:09:17]
higher. We had applied for 10. 02. Whereas 10. 41
[1:09:21]
was required. So there is a couple of changes in
[1:09:26]
the variances specifically number 5, 13 and the same height
[1:09:29]
on variance number 15. So, uh, there is a request
[1:09:33]
to just accept those amendments. So do you want us
[1:09:36]
to amend those, uh, there's nothing else that I guess
[1:09:38]
staffs come up with. So Committee member satisfied to amend.
[1:09:42]
Uh, Janice, I'm assuming you're okay. We can't see you,
[1:09:44]
but. Go ahead. Okay. Thank you. Yes, I'm okay. Thanks
[1:09:53]
James. So I'll just go through the presentation. I'll try
[1:09:56]
and be this relatively grief as I can. We were
[1:10:00]
before you back in July for the consent as well
[1:10:02]
as the minor variance application. This was the, uh, the
[1:10:05]
plan that was before you in July. Essentially what we
[1:10:08]
were looking for was. So is that leak Ontario, Lake
[1:10:11]
of America? That's Lake Ontario, Mr. Chair. Okay. Just wanted
[1:10:14]
to double check. For the record. We know it's very
[1:10:17]
clear Lake Ontario. You're putting me off now. So we
[1:10:25]
did get a consent to proved. Uh, we took a
[1:10:28]
piece off 929, added it to 930. The purpose was
[1:10:32]
to have one large lot to accommodate the current proposal.
[1:10:37]
Uh, the lot line read readjustment was approved. Um, just
[1:10:40]
so the committee's aware there's a lot area at the
[1:10:43]
total lot area. Of this 930 now. His 13, 519
[1:10:50]
square metres. That includes a portion of lake Ontario. We
[1:10:53]
take the portion of Lake Ontario off, uh, it ends
[1:10:57]
up being about 5, 900 metre squared. All our figures
[1:11:00]
for the purpose of what I'm discussing with you today,
[1:11:03]
specifically coverage in GFA. Has to do within a 5,
[1:11:06]
900 metre squared, not the full amount. Okay. So I
[1:11:10]
just want to be very clear that I'm going to
[1:11:11]
be giving you some stats. And just so that we're
[1:11:14]
a, what we're looking for here. The proposal and the
[1:11:16]
design of the property, um, there's a house already under
[1:11:21]
construction. This is what we call the west wing of
[1:11:24]
the house. And this is the east wing of the
[1:11:27]
house in green. Um, if you recall in July, we
[1:11:31]
had made application essentially. Uh, interconnection between the two. Basically
[1:11:39]
having it as one structure as opposed to being considered
[1:11:43]
as an ARU. Since that meeting, uh, we actually had
[1:11:47]
a meeting with, uh, with zoning. They determined that they'd
[1:11:50]
rather see it as a, this is an AR, sorry,
[1:11:55]
I apologise as a interconnection. We provided the recirculation as
[1:12:00]
an ARU. So once again, uh, there was some miscommunication.
[1:12:04]
I'm not missing the education. I think just a change
[1:12:05]
of mind as far as zoning's interpretation that they, uh,
[1:12:10]
initially want to see this as an ARU. They've since
[1:12:12]
decided that, uh, it be a better as an interconnection.
[1:12:15]
Uh, this came up last week. I had some discussions
[1:12:17]
with our friends and planning all good. They were all
[1:12:20]
worked very hard and making sure this application's going forward
[1:12:23]
and all the variances are correct. But as I said,
[1:12:25]
that there has been a recent interpretation change, which is
[1:12:28]
why the, uh, the planning comments today, uh, are opposed
[1:12:32]
specifically to the ARU. I think the issue is, uh,
[1:12:36]
basically creating a precedent essentially. This property by no means
[1:12:42]
will set a precedent, in my opinion, it's a very
[1:12:44]
exclusive, large property fronting onto obviously Lake Ontario. What the
[1:12:51]
proposal is preparing here is a very unique residential design.
[1:12:56]
As I said, it's not a typical lot. Um, it's
[1:12:58]
a very large lot. Instead of having one massive house,
[1:13:03]
the owner is preparing or proposing a main dwelling as
[1:13:07]
well as an east structure that essentially a secondary ARU
[1:13:12]
or a secondary use that can essentially be, uh, used
[1:13:16]
for, uh, guests or use for other amenities such as
[1:13:21]
charitable events and so forth. Essentially, um, the purpose of
[1:13:26]
it is to create a smaller living space in the
[1:13:30]
main dwelling and have this green structure use only for
[1:13:34]
a specific times and purposes. So just to discuss the
[1:13:37]
functionality of the use, as I said, uh, this is
[1:13:40]
day to day residence. This is for guests family visits
[1:13:43]
entertaining and hosting. It includes a kitchen living area dining
[1:13:47]
room, one bedroom. It's a functional guess suite essentially. The
[1:13:52]
arrangement allows the owner of self property to efficiently use
[1:13:55]
this particular building for their needs. From the street, of
[1:13:58]
course, it appears as two separate dwellings. There is no
[1:14:01]
interconnection. Although he still may provide that, you know, covered
[1:14:05]
walkway at a future date. This is a overhead.
[1:14:16]
The 3D view of the, uh, of the pavilion suite.
[1:14:20]
Once again, it's more or less in keeping with, you
[1:14:23]
know, the bylaw height - wise, it's less than the
[1:14:26]
10. 5 metres. Um, you know, if it was an
[1:14:31]
assessment, it was a connected structure to the West Pavilion
[1:14:35]
combined side yards would be met. Height would be met,
[1:14:38]
GFA coverage. So once again, you know, it's just the
[1:14:41]
fact that there's two separate structures on the property. Zoning
[1:14:48]
wise, uh, as I said, this is unconventional. And this
[1:14:51]
is why the scope of 18 variances in this instance.
[1:15:01]
The variances should be concerned in context of the overall
[1:15:05]
development. I mean, the lot is very large. Uh, the
[1:15:09]
proposed coverage based on the 5, 900 Demeter squared is
[1:15:13]
only 13. 61 percent with both the green in the
[1:15:17]
blue west wing building. Uh, with the fact that this
[1:15:21]
was considered as an ARU, it's actually 54, sorry, 45
[1:15:25]
percent coverage permitted. So I have here the breakdowns of
[1:15:32]
the, um, the west. GFA. The 419. 7 east, TFA,
[1:15:38]
the total GFA is 749 metres squared. And the total
[1:15:42]
permitted GFA is 1380. So we could get almost near
[1:15:46]
to double of what is permitted on the site. And
[1:15:50]
once again, that's the table end that I'm referring to,
[1:15:53]
not the portion of the property, including Lake Ontario. I've
[1:15:56]
noted here the coverage as well, specifically the east coverage
[1:16:01]
is only 7. 41 percent. And just as a note,
[1:16:05]
the bylaw, uh, does allow in the RL zone. ARUs
[1:16:10]
for properties over 600, 750 metres squared, I believe. You
[1:16:14]
can get timbersome the lot area up to 100 metres
[1:16:16]
squared. So if for smaller property or allowed 10 percent
[1:16:20]
of their lot area, just imagine the size of this
[1:16:22]
property, we're actually less than the 10 percent as required
[1:16:25]
for an ARIU. On the slide, uh, just showing
[1:16:35]
the layout, um, outdoor kitchen, washrooms, uh, the large living
[1:16:40]
area, entry hall kitchen. There's also the port courtier that
[1:16:44]
results in the number of the variances. So pertaining specifically
[1:16:47]
to the ARU. We'll just go through them very quickly.
[1:16:50]
Um, ARU side yard. As opposed to being located in
[1:16:55]
the rear yard. The ARU having a gross flurry of
[1:16:58]
419. 7 metre squared was 100 metres square dismitted. Height
[1:17:02]
of 10. 41, whereas 6. 8 metres is permitted. That's
[1:17:07]
in accordance with the height of the building. Uh, there's
[1:17:12]
also a balcony on the front. On the two -
[1:17:15]
story detached ARU. It's not permitted. Uh, I mentioned the
[1:17:20]
coverage. The coverage is larger than the primary dwelling. And
[1:17:23]
there is an ARU height of 410. 41 metres. The
[1:17:32]
other remaining variances all have to do more or less
[1:17:34]
with the driveway except for the depth. The depth of
[1:17:38]
23 is for the west. Building only. ARU does not
[1:17:46]
require a debt variance in this instance. There's a walkway
[1:17:49]
with a 1. 83 metres. Whereas 1. 5 metres is
[1:17:53]
required. Maximum garage area. This is a garage on the
[1:17:56]
side of the west. Dwelling 85. 08 75 metres squared
[1:18:00]
being required. Uh, mentioned the garage projection from the meanwhile,
[1:18:04]
8. 25 metres, whereas, uh, projection at 2. 5 metres
[1:18:08]
is required. That's for the poor courtier on the, uh,
[1:18:10]
on the east building car port, or sorry, flat roof
[1:18:14]
on a carport, 3. 83 metres. That's where the port
[1:18:17]
courtier. And maximum number of garages, two garages. One, two,
[1:18:22]
as opposed to one being required. And there's also a
[1:18:25]
hammerhead variance relatively minor. Um, permit a carport in the
[1:18:30]
front yard. Which is not permitted. And set back to
[1:18:33]
a carport of 5. 65 metres, whereas 7 metres is
[1:18:36]
required. So, you know, I'll put this just quickly, the
[1:18:41]
chart of all the percentages. Also just indicate that this
[1:18:45]
is the West primary dwelling, the max of the height
[1:18:48]
of the West willing is only 7. 04 metres. This
[1:18:51]
is another elevation of it. This is the elevation of
[1:18:56]
the, uh, the ARU 10. 4 1 metres. So you
[1:19:03]
can see it looks like two homes. The last letting
[1:19:06]
I'm going to put on. This is what is permitted
[1:19:08]
the 1380 metre squared. If one large house was to
[1:19:12]
be built on the property. And once again, this is
[1:19:14]
the only the calculation of the lot, not including the
[1:19:17]
lake Ontario portion. You could get a massive dwelling. So
[1:19:20]
instead of a massive dwelling, we have two separate dwellings.
[1:19:22]
You can see between them. Just, just to finalise my
[1:19:26]
presentation, I know I'm a little bit behind here. I
[1:19:29]
mean, this is an innovative development on the waterfront property.
[1:19:34]
Um, provides, uh, specific function to allow for the one
[1:19:38]
building to be shut down as, you know, much of
[1:19:40]
the winter when it's not being used. It's very efficient.
[1:19:42]
Um, once again, the coverage is in the GFA is
[1:19:46]
far less than what's to actually required for the lot.
[1:19:48]
Uh, I know there's a number of neighbours that are
[1:19:50]
supportive, one specifically was, uh, still in opposition. Um, my
[1:19:54]
client had speak to him yesterday. Um, all in all,
[1:19:58]
I believe the variances all meet the four tests. And
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I think I'm at about 10 minute mark. So I'll,
[1:20:03]
I'll leave it at that. Be happy to answer any
[1:20:04]
questions. Yes. So we'll have to erase five minutes of
[1:20:07]
your presentation for that. Um, just a couple questions. So
[1:20:11]
I guess if, if you were to theoretically divide that
[1:20:14]
lot in half, the ARU, you could build, I mean,
[1:20:18]
outside of what you just showed that you can build
[1:20:20]
that big massive host. Both you can build both houses
[1:20:24]
and they beat the requirements and so forth, correct? Yes.
[1:20:27]
In fact, as far as I'm concerned, you could probably
[1:20:29]
get a three lot sovereigns here. Right. Uh, and meet
[1:20:31]
all the bylaw departments. Um, and from staff's perspective, I'm
[1:20:35]
assuming that I think you said it in your planning
[1:20:38]
comments that if this were attached in some way, you
[1:20:40]
wouldn't have an issue with the variance. It's just because
[1:20:43]
it's an ARE that is a concern, correct? Yes, that's,
[1:20:46]
that's correct, Mr. Chair. And maybe just to even add
[1:20:49]
to that, uh, staff didn't have an issue or the
[1:20:52]
only variance is that staff had the issue with was
[1:20:54]
the variances tied to the ARU. The other variance being
[1:20:57]
sought for height and everything else we didn't really have
[1:20:59]
an issue with at all. Thank you. Um, sorry, John,
[1:21:04]
you didn't have a question. Okay. Um, Community members, any
[1:21:07]
questions or comments? No, Alexander Comments, please. The city has
[1:21:11]
no objections to variances two and three as amended. However,
[1:21:14]
staff recommended that the rest of the variance is be
[1:21:15]
refused. There are several amendments listed. I believe Mr. Outrud's
[1:21:20]
list that he provided us did include all the ones
[1:21:21]
from zoning as well as his additional requests. That has
[1:21:24]
been provided to committee and was shown on screen by
[1:21:26]
Mr. Otrid. Uh, as a result of the circulation, we
[1:21:29]
received one letter of objection, one letter of concern, a
[1:21:32]
petition of objection signed by three members of the public,
[1:21:34]
a petition of support signed by eight members of the
[1:21:36]
public. No members of the public have pre - registered
[1:21:38]
to speak, as this is deferred file. And in our
[1:21:40]
previous submissions that have not been amended remain enforced and
[1:21:42]
effectiver. Is there anybody in the audience that has an
[1:21:46]
interest in this application A219930 closing court. You're the homeowner.
[1:21:54]
I'm assuming you're in favor of it. You're not going
[1:21:55]
to come up and speak against it, right? Okay. Just
[1:21:58]
want to make sure. Um, okay. Committee members questions. If
[1:22:02]
not, ready for a motion, Mr. Page. Thanks, Mr. Chair.
[1:22:05]
Move approval of the amended application. It meets the four
[1:22:07]
test. Subject to general conformance of the drawings. Um. I
[1:22:11]
think the letters that were sent in were addressed with
[1:22:14]
one exception, somebody up, Crozier Court was concerned about view
[1:22:20]
across the lots to the lake. That's not something that,
[1:22:22]
uh, that we look at. And it's not contained in
[1:22:25]
the bylaw. Um, even though it may be irritating. Thanks,
[1:22:27]
Mr. Chair. Do I have a secret, Mr. Ellis? Thank
[1:22:30]
you, Mr. Chair, I'll second that motion. Community members, any
[1:22:33]
discussion. I'm going to support the motion as well. This
[1:22:34]
is a unique lot. I think it's where it's located
[1:22:37]
at the end of the day. It pretty much functions
[1:22:40]
as one property in one unit. Uh, if there was
[1:22:43]
attached, as staff has suggested, they wouldn't have an issue
[1:22:47]
with it. It's the ARU definition. I think they have
[1:22:50]
some issues with, which I don't blame them doing that.
[1:22:53]
So I think it does meet the four tests. Committee
[1:22:57]
members. Any further discussion? Oh, Janice, sorry. Did you want
[1:23:00]
to make a comment. Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yeah.
[1:23:04]
I, I was concerned about these variants. I think, um,
[1:23:07]
at the end of the day, when you put them,
[1:23:10]
what the two buildings together. And then that would be
[1:23:13]
permitted for the most part. Um, that kind of puts
[1:23:19]
it over to being in the category of meeting the
[1:23:22]
four tests. So I'm going to support the motion. Thank
[1:23:27]
you. Uh, further discussion, all those in favor. Any opposed.
[1:23:32]
Mr. Richard, did your application has been approved by the
[1:23:33]
Committee and General Corrines of the Johns presented. And now
[1:23:36]
we've got, uh, I guess a front where just in
[1:23:40]
case we get invaded by the Americans, we know we're
[1:23:42]
working to. We got turrets up on the, uh, on
[1:23:46]
the houses and stuff. So we'll get started. It's actually
[1:23:49]
called Lake John Page now, not like America. Yeah. I
[1:23:52]
think you're lucky. I don't want to say what you'd
[1:23:55]
be named after your application has been approved. Have a
[1:23:59]
good day. Thanks. Take care. That ends our agenda for
[1:24:04]
the day. Thank you, everybody.