[0:07] okay oh yes

[0:52] water I was not either was Co

[1:00] I did I forgot to thank you thank you so much

[1:05] problem that was that was

[1:14] wonderful yeah and you know I see it in it's next

[1:19] to my shoes in kitchen in the cabinet and every time okay folks it's 5:00

[1:25] we'll call the meeting to order if we can all rise for the pledge allegiance

[1:32] to the flag of the United States of America and to the for stands one nation

[1:39] under God indivisible liy and justice for

[1:51] all good afternoon everyone could we have a roll call please and if I could

[1:56] remind everybody to turn on their microphones and please speak in

[2:04] microphone I use that when the last Planning Commission meeting batteries

[2:08] are just about dead Spencer present Ferguson

[2:14] here here Arnold here b b Meer here here thank

[2:23] you okay we'll now have public comment anyone wishing to speak in public

[2:27] comment uh you'll have 3 minutes to speak if you wish to leave your name and

[2:31] address please do so hi re I'm Rita Tilly and 2892 East

[2:38] Fisher Road and I'm here because of the boxman road energy um battery project um

[2:45] I've got three points I'd like to make tonight number one is that the um

[2:50] Planning Commission approved a layout map which is over here and this boxman

[2:55] road uh project is not in that layout area and I'm wondering if it had to do

[2:59] because because it's so residential and if it would have any bearing on maybe

[3:05] um um putting this project aside so that doesn't happen in our neighborhood so

[3:11] that's number one number two I talked to quite a few different Representatives

[3:15] the past week or two and um one uh Tim B called me back and he we had nice

[3:21] chitchat and he said that really there's nothing that any of the House of

[3:25] Representative people can do because of the law but he said that he has one

[3:31] recommendation and that is the fact that um when rivet um decided to run for the

[3:36] federal office of of senate for our Michigan um they left her seat open and

[3:44] um they didn't fill it in case she didn't win so she'd come back and have

[3:48] her seat Well the the governor is dragging her feet and not wanting to

[3:52] have an election and um so he said get your people to start calling in and

[3:56] doing it and he said two people that you need to call is the governor and the

[4:01] other one is Winnie Brinks who is the state M majority leader who would have

[4:05] the most say that's

[4:10] right Terry I have one too yes very nice yeah so anyways I did put this a sheet

[4:19] just like this out on the table and for people to write the number down and call

[4:23] or write either one was good so and then point number three one of the um this

[4:29] one's the important one I think um one of the um Representatives Office I spoke

[4:35] to one of the gals that that is works for his um I'll just say right now it

[4:41] was Bill Shy's office and um anyway she told me that one of the things that the

[4:46] township can do is to um have a a a to request the state to do a Land

[4:55] Management study she said several townships have done it so far and number

[5:00] one it is it can stall this whole thing but the most important thing is that um

[5:07] we actually have good reasons to have a Land Management study in this area

[5:11] number one is because battery I've been reading about them and between battery

[5:16] wind and solar the battery is highly dangerous especially in a residential

[5:21] area and we are highly residential because they tend to leak they um they

[5:27] uh are volatile and causes evacuation for the neighborhoods there's a lot of

[5:32] lot of things that are negative for having that in our

[5:36] area so that would be number one that you could write and say to this to the

[5:39] state of Michigan that's one reason why we want a land study number two I don't

[5:43] even know if you know this but we have a active um bald eagle nest right in our

[5:48] neighborhood and we all watch it and there is a a bald and Gold Eagle uh

[5:54] protection act and they're very specific about how you are to handle the area

[5:59] where they are nesting you're familiar with that yes ma'am yes ma'am and I'm

[6:03] sorry your time is up ma'am one more um come on I'll make a motion we if we get

[6:09] a motion yes we can get a motion and then get support support okay all in

[6:14] favor I I any post okay continue maybe me talk fast so so that one is really

[6:22] important too and then the third thing that you could mention to the re to them

[6:25] for the reason for it is that we are so close to the Bay and the river is just

[6:30] only what 2 miles from us and that drains right into the bay and with

[6:35] leakage from batteries that can be a very dangerous thing so I think that to

[6:40] do that if you could do that that would be probably one of the best things that

[6:45] you could do for our area and then if you would um reply at the end of the

[6:49] meeting on those things if you could yes ma'am I will okay thank you thank you

[6:55] couple of them items U I already had down yes thank you okay well we I'm glad

[6:59] we have the same mind anyone else wants to speak in

[7:04] public comment anyone else wish to speak in

[7:08] public

[7:13] comment hi link coey monitor Township I noticed that everything's on again and

[7:20] at the last meeting I thought we were told that this was being going to be put

[7:25] online and I have no idea if it's on and it's on online

[7:31] um is it online is there some way to find out how to get the meetings offline

[7:37] I'll address that in the supervisor report okay number two um last meeting

[7:41] there was quite a few people here and I sat out in that area

[7:46] and for it it wasn't enormous crowd but it was a good siiz crowd a lot of people

[7:52] were not real happy that they had to sit out there um the only thing I can say

[7:58] normally when they used to have big meetings they'd have them out in the

[8:02] hall so that every everybody was in the same place everybody could see the board

[8:08] and hear the board um it's just a suggestion if you're going to have big

[8:14] meetings because you don't hear out there or see out there at least the

[8:19] microphones and the um TVs were working out there last week cuz they weren't

[8:24] before that so just a suggestion that if you're going to have a big meeting maybe

[8:29] have out in the hall thank you thank you anyone else want to speak in public

[8:40] comment Hello Jill art I live right over there on East North Union Road um to

[8:46] follow what Elaine said at one point Terry at recent meetings you mentioned

[8:50] removal of the wall so that there is some transparency throughout the

[8:55] building here in the meeting room so I was just wondering if that is a fact

[9:00] and also a lot of feedback about the 5:00 start if it could even be 6:00 p.m.

[9:05] like several other Township meetings um I know not everybody can be here but the

[9:11] interest is there so if those two things could be considered thank you thank you

[9:16] and I will uh bring that up during the report as well

[9:22] Mo anyone else wish to speak in public comment anyone else wish to speak in

[9:29] public comment seeing no one else we'll close public

[9:34] comment okay next up to adopt the agenda and the consent agenda uh we do have two

[9:42] items we are going to remove from the agenda uh under unfinished business

[9:47] resoning 2483 Midland Road and also under new business release of

[9:55] pa16 for J Burke prior to expiration is there any other input on the

[10:02] agenda you said those will be removed yes with that said I'll make a motion to

[10:08] approve okay we have a motion to approve the agenda support we have support any

[10:14] other

[10:18] discussion okay all in favor I I any opposed

[10:23] nay okay motion clear motion carried okay

[10:32] and we'll do a review of the 12125 regular meeting

[10:38] minutes if there's no questions for that we will move

[10:47] forward okay next up payment of the bills uh approved payment of the bills

[10:52] for 268,000

[10:59] we have a motion do we have support support we have support any discussion

[11:03] should we clarify why that's so high because of that

[11:07] other the sty Park

[11:11] bill so last

[11:15] meeting it's all

[11:20] right Rich doesn't want to talk anyway so last meeting we approved spending our

[11:25] last of the arpa money almost 100,000 on sty Park and when we went to write the

[11:30] check we found out we couldn't do that the Auditors said we can't use grant

[11:34] money to apply for grant money because we have

[11:38] to pay it off so we can apply for the grant money so they said just move your

[11:42] sty Park money into general fund and they'll consider that as lost revenue

[11:46] for the covid time which is allowable and they had us right to check on a

[11:50] general fund so that check for sty Park is going to be

[11:55] 195,000 and once we get it paid off Spicer will be applying for the

[12:00] grant we're going to get back 269 so all right thank

[12:05] you okay any other discussion do a roll call Meer yes ma

[12:14] yes Spencer yes Ferguson yes CLA yes Arnold oh it doesn't work but yes thank

[12:23] you Beller doesn't stay yes motion Carri stay down little

[12:29] go off is let me check the battery no it says it's full

[12:36] okay okay next up uh unfinished business uh first we have and we have a

[12:44] uh letter here um from Spicer group in front of us on the table um monitor

[12:50] Township uh Park Improvement plan and um in front of us is a

[12:56] uh letter from Spicer uh talking about uh creating a master plan for monitor

[13:02] Township Park uh which I believe that would be the best route for us to go

[13:07] with uh the excess amount of things that need to be repaired down there so if we

[13:13] had a

[13:20] motion I have a question oh go ahead Earl this is the first they seen the

[13:26] proposal this is the first they seen the proposal

[13:29] and I think we should have had in our packet but I thought we had a perks

[13:34] committee that we were going to have a couple years

[13:38] back and we were going to get input from the public what we kind of wanted to do

[13:44] at the park because I thought you were organizing that Terry as I

[13:50] remember and like some of the stuff on here might

[13:55] be outdated like the ball fields like nobody plays ball no more so like I'm

[14:01] not necessarily saying I don't want bball Fields or but you know other

[14:07] people might have other ideas what might be done down there other than just going

[14:12] with a master plan for the park which I never really saw publicly here at the

[14:18] meetings it's the first time we really seen it Earl would it be okay if I

[14:23] stepped in for a second go ahead um this this is to retain Spicer for services

[14:29] to come up with a master plan um and just so we're all aware um and I want to

[14:34] bring this up for a discussion later on we can talk about right now um back in

[14:39] 2020 when I became supervisor the prior board um there was a park committee uh

[14:45] that board decided they didn't want to do a park committee between the trusted

[14:50] trustees uh so we didn't have one over the last four years um I'm perfectly

[14:55] okay with doing that again if we want to start a committee here um you are

[14:59] correct that uh I did make some um some information out to the public and the

[15:05] board did approve that we could have a public uh Park committee um when I

[15:11] initially had put that out on social media uh everybody in uh everybody and

[15:16] their brother was excited about a park committee and then when the board said

[15:19] okay we're going to do a park committee we had one person who who filled out the

[15:23] application so but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try again so um so we can try

[15:28] that again and get that rolling um I think before we do any type uh we need

[15:34] to start somewhere so this is kind of starting with Spicer hey the board's

[15:38] going to agree we're going to move forward with trying to come up a plan uh

[15:41] but my recommendation certainly would be that we get some we put some more

[15:45] information out on our web page our social media page um and then we look at

[15:50] uh possibly as we get closer to the spring to having like a town hall

[15:54] meeting for anybody who wants to come to talk about monitor Township Park and

[15:58] what we should be doing uh yeah this but this is just to get it

[16:01] started go well that's fine but I think we should do that before we make a

[16:09] contract with spacers for $10,000 yeah that was my question

[16:14] too I don't have a problem with you know if the public comes in here and tells us

[16:19] blah blah blah blah blah blah that's what they want in the park that's great

[16:22] we'll figure out how to do it we High spicers we get the job done no problem

[16:27] at all but I think how can I contract make a contract with

[16:32] spicers for 10,000 and I just got this in front of

[16:37] me tonight and like the two ball fields very you know like we all know the ball

[16:43] fields are bad shape they have nothing's been done for 10 years maybe more maybe

[16:49] we don't even want the ball fields correct yeah and and once again Earl um

[16:56] and Jim I I think that we can uh you can we could say that hey we're going to

[17:01] reach out to the public and and do all these other things that some of these we

[17:05] tried to do in the past and we'll have to try to do it again um but in the

[17:08] meantime uh who's going to retain all that information that we get and that's

[17:12] part of the contract cor Don with with hiring spicers to kind of be the uh the

[17:17] eyes and ear of what our community would like to see down

[17:20] there right what again what we did what we did originally is we looked at the

[17:25] park and if you go down and look at the park the ball field are in terrible

[17:29] shape the bleachers are unsafe softball fields haven't been used in

[17:34] years um horseshoe pits haven't been used in years the playgrounds aren't too

[17:41] bad because we did we did improvements on the playground not long ago the

[17:45] Pavilion looks unfriendly I mean it needs sprucing up I mean it's a 1950

[17:52] vintage the restrooms you know need painting and need updating they don't

[17:56] look they don't look good at all so the park really is tired and needs some

[18:01] improvements part of the master planning process would be Earl to get input from

[18:07] the township and the public to say what do what do we see this park looking like

[18:12] because when I think of that park I think of that being the best park in the

[18:17] township and something we want to be proud of when you go down there it

[18:22] doesn't look like that you know do we want the ball fields should they go away

[18:28] those softball Fields obviously should go away I mean there's just things down

[18:32] there you go it just needs work you know I don't

[18:37] know what you want down there but part of that Master planning process is tell

[18:42] us what you want do the ball fields need to go away is it pickle ball courts is

[18:47] it tennis courts is it a new Pavilion I mean what do we what is our vision for

[18:54] that park that's what the process of Master planning the park would be

[19:00] I hope that kind of helps in giving a better understanding of what we were

[19:03] thinking when we developed that proposal yep go ahead

[19:07] Paul yeah so since we don't have a Parks committee like you said and this

[19:12] references a Parks committee should we table this until we can establish a

[19:17] Parks committee I would agree

[19:21] with I would your red light was on

[19:28] I would agree with Paul um and Jim and Earl a little bit maybe

[19:34] we at least get a group of us together to come up with some direction okay that

[19:41] we can hand over to

[19:44] Spicer um whether it's a committee here or we can get a few community members to

[19:50] okay I think definitely commity yeah we definitely need to have a committee

[19:54] established here again and we've recommended to you before that you do

[19:57] have a Parks committee because when we write Grant applications

[20:01] for DNR you get more points you have a Parks committee so each time we applied

[20:06] for Grants which has been three times we've created a Parks

[20:10] committee okay um I'll I'll I'll have the recommendation at our next board

[20:15] meeting um which will probably be a special meeting um we'll go over that

[20:19] later but uh U and then I'll I'll have the I'll I'll put that information out

[20:26] online again to see if we can get some interest and we'll get uh together for

[20:29] the next meeting so we get a motion to table it after Jim says what he has to

[20:33] say whatever happened to the money that was supposed to be generated from those

[20:40] Tower from that tower that was supposed to go to the park it goes into general

[20:44] fund is there any figure of how much that had generated got some IDE do well

[20:51] we use it in general fund on a regular basis it was used when they did the last

[20:56] Park updates when they did the swing sets when they did did the walking pass

[20:59] when they did it was designated out of that money but it has really came down

[21:04] from what it originally well still you don't have a ledger of how much that

[21:08] generated for you can look it up separate line yeah yeah I don't think

[21:14] she has it here in front of her but don't have it in front of me we

[21:16] definitely have it so okay question the other gentleman

[21:21] that cuts the grass is though all he does is cut the grass uh he does cut the

[21:25] grass but he does you know whatever he's got to do he's like he's the last couple

[21:29] months he's been doing little jobs in here he's been working on the tractors

[21:34] um uh maintenance and you know this and that so he cuts this grass and

[21:39] summertime it's pretty much give you an update hey things this is looking bad or

[21:43] they destroyed this oh yeah yeah yeah I I talk to Mike almost daily that we're

[21:49] here and uh and he is and uh uh he's very compassionate about that Park he's

[21:54] the first person to tell you if there's an issue so he doesn't let anything

[21:57] slide he's very he does a good job down there so Terry

[22:01] may I add one more thing yep I notic in I think maybe you had mention it one

[22:06] time security cameras yep cuz you you probably heard and everybody knows the

[22:11] traffic in and out of that place is constant yep and I can sit in my

[22:14] backyard and watch the cars at 10 11:00 at night wondering why they're going

[22:19] down there and hanging out yeah so I don't know if some of this should have

[22:23] the security cameras in the I think so yes yeah you know and again again this

[22:28] is this 10,000 is just for the Gathering the information what where our where our

[22:34] game plan but Jim I wish you would have done on the last board um because we had

[22:38] the money to get cameras and we didn't do it for stupid uh inner politic

[22:43] reasons when we had an overwhelming people that utilized that Park that

[22:48] thought it was a great idea I mean we had uh there was razor blades thrown in

[22:52] the uh in the in the child play area there uh we had vandalism this is all

[22:57] daytime stuff not even at night so yeah I I think that that should be brought up

[23:03] again we can pull out some old estimat and I I think that's a wonderful idea

[23:06] there's a lot of stuff that's got to get done down there and I think the biggest

[23:09] thing is we just got to kind of have a game plan instead of throwing a Band-Aid

[23:12] on everything so one other thing I don't mean to drag it on both Ball Diamonds

[23:19] were dedicated to Carl Biser Fire Chief and Earl was it Max was Maxwell I

[23:28] but um if you know someday this decides to be torn down let's show a little

[23:34] respect to the family so we don't just rip it down and forget about because

[23:37] they have nice plaques absolutely can we he mark their name for something else

[23:42] instead of the instead of a ball Diamond maybe a soccer

[23:45] field they'll carry on their yeah I understand I'm just saying no I I agree

[23:51] with you 100% on that Jim so but when we get to that point yeah we can go over

[23:54] that so can we get a motion to table us until the next meeting I'll make it okay

[23:58] I have a motion do we have support any other

[24:03] discussion all in favor I I any oppos nay okay motion

[24:09] carried okay next up um parking lot State Street Academy um

[24:18] we had some information there from some discussions that we had had in the past

[24:23] um I had talked to the individual from there um they're currently uh awaiting

[24:30] their state inspections they've got all their permits Filled from what they have

[24:35] told me they're just basically waiting for the state inspectors to come there

[24:38] um and uh so they're not open up right now they're not attending school right

[24:43] now but I would definitely uh look to have the board to say we need to move

[24:47] forward with having some discussions about uh uh the parking lot use the

[24:51] biggest thing it's my concern is obviously the insurance uh I'm having

[24:56] some insurance on there and some of the other things that we had talked about

[24:59] before so um isn't there agreement excuse me isn't there agreement drawn up

[25:05] already yep or well I'll let Rich answer that and his microphone's not working

[25:12] so they they had given us a proposal my memory is Jim and my memory could be

[25:18] failing but I thought I had done a draft reply to it uh many of the things that

[25:24] we talked about the insurance Etc them doing the striping them doing the

[25:29] plowing were in there some of the other things though were the pothole patching

[25:34] the maintenance of it would be done by them and that we get the superseding

[25:39] right to tell them they can't use it if we have an election day if we have the

[25:44] pancake breakfast for the fire department anytime either Terry or Linda

[25:50] or the board decides we're going to have an extraordinary amount of traffic you

[25:55] can't use it we get to take back possession and they can't use it for the

[25:59] day the other thing was that when Don I think looked at the school uh there was

[26:06] a lot of pave parking behind the school and they they probably had enough

[26:11] parking to satisfy their needs but it seems that your parking is more readily

[26:18] available so it is not a musthave for either side it's a fair negotiation and

[26:25] I don't know where that last agreement went so I'd have to go look on the

[26:28] computer for it but I made some of the notes from memory on this agreement if

[26:33] you want me to redraft it that's where we're at

[26:36] a go ahead Jim also if you may have noticed the I believe it was County came

[26:43] in and marked off their uh Islands they're going to put in our our Islands

[26:49] yeah yep all right we're going to lose 16 parking spots yeah yep you know so we

[26:57] make sure you really realize that cuz you know weddings we air conditioned

[27:01] this Hall so you're expecting to get better weddings we've lost 16 that would

[27:06] always be parked would usually park there so yeah I would agree with Rich I

[27:10] mean we just in an agreement that we have we just hey if we have a reception

[27:14] or we have an election whatever we have to have and and I be honest with you I

[27:17] don't think they're going to have a whole lot of conflict I mean they're a

[27:19] school Monday through Friday you know regular business hours so there might be

[27:24] some days but um so I I guess if if we could have a motion to um move

[27:32] forward with having discussions with them or how what's the what's the motion

[27:36] we need to have here to get moving forward it would only be a conflict if

[27:39] Christen McDonald rivets in your building so why would we have more

[27:43] discussion with them if they come in there and they ask for it again if it

[27:49] was on the agenda it was tabled or it was rejected I would have to go back to

[27:54] the minutes and look but like they're not in here w today why would I go ask

[27:59] them if they want the parking lot um I I prefer to be proactive on it Earl um if

[28:04] somebody pulls they have plenty of parking and back that's what Don's plan

[28:08] said that is correct but they've got doors on this side and if somebody pulls

[28:13] into that parking lot and they're going there to see their kids and they slip

[28:17] and fall on the parking lot whose insurance is that going to fall under

[28:20] it's going to fall under the township it's better for us to have some type of

[28:23] mutual agreement that that that we know that they have these things explain that

[28:29] to me they should have insurance just said

[28:32] is that factual or not they can't use their parking lot for

[28:37] their classes and stuff unless we give them authority to do that not what I

[28:41] said I said that if somebody if somebody pulls in there and parks there are you

[28:46] going to I guess they're not they're always going to be on

[28:50] yours not if do I get to answer these not if they cover them as well who's got

[28:56] the biggest Pockets rich yeah the township has the biggest

[29:00] Pockets but the uh governmental immunity statute gives five exceptions where you

[29:06] can be sued one is a defect of building a sidewalk or a parking lot is not a

[29:11] building so you the government can't be sued for that even natural accumulation

[29:17] in ice and snow is supposed to be forgiven if you're a homeowner and you

[29:20] have a sidewalk in front of your house the the problem would become in my

[29:26] opinion not so much the occasional slip and fall which we've just experienced

[29:32] here in the township not too long ago over the weekend where people can get

[29:37] hurt the problem is going to be that they think they can use it without an

[29:42] agreement you probably want the agreement to tell them we're going to

[29:46] have an election we're going to have a speaker we're going to have a state of

[29:50] the township luncheon whatever you can't use it Monday this week Friday next week

[29:56] never on a weekend whatever and

[29:59] so that I mean the the cost is di Minimus we don't put a whole lot of

[30:05] money into Paving it striping it plowing it that type of stuff but you just want

[30:11] to make sure we have an agreement so I kind of agree with both of you I'm I'm

[30:16] less concerned about slip and fall because we have our insurance on it

[30:20] that's going to pay it and if we get on their insurance they're going to be

[30:24] primary and pay it so the township won't take anything out of their own pocket

[30:30] but I am concerned about people thinking they have rights that they don't really

[30:34] have all right okay any other [Music]

[30:40] questions okay can we have a motion I'll make a motion to uh proceed

[30:48] the document to protect the

[30:52] township okay we have a motion uh to proceed and work on that for the next

[30:58] month meeting do we have support no support okay we have support

[31:03] any other discussion you got one question BR you said there was an

[31:06] agreement Rich

[31:10] previous okay I I thought I had done a reply to that but I think so I'm not I

[31:16] was going to go ask Don he's got a better memory than anybody and Don would

[31:20] have seen a copy but if I if I've got it on the computer I will dust it off send

[31:25] it to Terry and we'll talk about it I won't have to reinvent the wheel if I

[31:30] don't have it on the computer then I'm dreaming that I did it

[31:34] okay no I think I think they I think you're right I think they came to us and

[31:38] they had something and we replied and then it went nowhere go ahead Terry they

[31:43] did come to the Planning Commission if you remember correctly Jim they came to

[31:47] the Planning Commission and they were very receptive to anything in everything

[31:52] I know at one time the Gary Brandt and I think Earl

[31:57] was involved in that they wanted a copy of their inspections and things of that

[32:00] nature I brought that up and they said they'd be more willing to share that

[32:05] they also shared with us the state's not the fastest people in the world and it

[32:10] may be a long time before the inspection's done it's probably got to

[32:14] be all of four months but they were receptive to the letter in the per in in

[32:19] the parking lot so y okay um so could we get a u all in favor or you want a roll

[32:28] call all in favor do all favor should be roll roll call spending money

[32:34] okay me yes Spencer yes Ferguson yes CLA yes Arnold

[32:42] no Beller yes Meer yes motion carried okay next uh on the

[32:51] agenda is uh our court court of appeals um with Mill so with that being said U

[32:59] we need to have a motion to go into Clos make a motion go into a Clos session

[33:04] okay we have a motion do we have support I'll support okay um we have

[33:11] support U any discussion we we have to identify what

[33:15] the purpose is so it' be to discuss pending litigation with Harold Miller

[33:20] regarding 1600 South uid that's what I

[33:25] said God I can't say I'm better myself okay roll call

[33:32] please Spencer yes Ferguson Yesa yes Arnold yes Beller yes Meer yes yes

[33:42] motion Carri okay folks um I'd have to ask you to if you could uh wait outside

[33:48] we have to close the doors to go on a close session for a minute

[33:53] yeah off I'm let me get this off here

[33:59] and if Don can you get the doors there please

[34:03] um if we can yeah if you can either mute or turn

[34:16] off turn that back on there I got it I think I got

[34:25] it this actually works i' I think I've done everything I was supposed to right

[34:30] so all right welcome back

[34:34] everyone need a motion to go back into an open Open Session that's what we did

[34:39] okay yeah now we need a motion to direct me to do what I got to do okay well uh

[34:47] the back in Open Session here um and uh do we have a

[34:55] motion I make a motion and mayor's motion is to table for one

[35:01] month and get the reports from the building department which be to grow in

[35:05] Rashia what is out of compliance and have the attorney file a list pendant on

[35:11] 1600 South uid immediately support support it okay we have motion support

[35:17] any

[35:19] discussion okay roll call CLA yes Arnold yes Beller yes Meer

[35:27] yes M yes Spencer yes Ferguson yes motion carried okay next on the agenda

[35:34] um Foster Swift

[35:39] update I don't think there was a whole lot to report since the last time we

[35:43] just wanted to keep it on the agenda so we're talking about it they did have uh

[35:47] um I'll let Rich can you give the 302 uh lawyer uh words uh version

[35:56] please yeah they they sent the uh notice of public hearing which Taylor and

[36:03] Jessica and I edited they sent over the amendments to the zoning ordinance which

[36:10] are here for first reading and introduction tonight we had the public

[36:15] here as was pointed out by Miss Tilly and we had the overlay districts all in

[36:21] line and we're ready to go and the hope is knock on wood that Foster Swift's

[36:28] theory of uh combating the issue of State takeover will

[36:34] work questions no okay thank you okay next on

[36:41] the agenda uh Creekwood street light let Linda hop on that okay so

[36:47] Creekwood is going with um Bay City Light and electric to have a free light

[36:52] installed on the existing poll they are paying the

[36:56] $6.25 a month and we are out of the picture go ahead

[37:02] Earl since we had a motion Rich knows I'm going to ask and we agreed to pay

[37:08] the $6 a month on the original motion to Consumers okay

[37:16] so that motion still on the books and if you make a motion to resend

[37:22] it but I still we originally were going to pay the monthly

[37:28] blate bill for them we we were also going to pay for

[37:33] the installation of the pole on the consumers poll only to find out from

[37:38] consumers that right I know that but I'm just saying that before we

[37:43] can since it's on the agenda the motion should be rescinded but we did make a

[37:49] deal with them that we pay the bill on that motion they were not very honorable

[37:55] in the way they chewed but on the way out the door so just make your motion to

[38:01] resend the $6 a month payment say that one more time do you

[38:06] have a motion to resend the $6 month payment yeah they they chewed everybody

[38:11] at this table a new you know what because they they thought it was our

[38:16] problem that we didn't know that it was a city bity make the motion we agreed to

[38:22] pay the light bill for the light okay I'm just pointing out that we have to

[38:27] send the motion we were moving on I don't know if you were going to point

[38:30] that up but the original motion said we were going to pay their light bill which

[38:35] was a I think was kind of Fair since we put them through whatever and it cost

[38:41] them a lot of money too and we do have lates in the township and that's not a

[38:46] big deal six $72 a year the problem is you're going to have to pay it to the

[38:52] city of Bay City not to we have street lights with Bay City now we have street

[38:57] lights with consumers now it's not a big deal to us to take the bill so we that's

[39:05] the deal we made or that was voted on we all agreed to

[39:10] that well then we don't need a motion just leave it in place so our clerk

[39:16] would have to know have to tell them that that she that we have to tell them

[39:21] to put the light up and not Creekwood instead of consuming we have

[39:28] to deal with Bay City Electric no we don't have to the deal was with

[39:31] consumers the whole process was because consumers wanted us to create a special

[39:36] assessment District once they said it wasn't their poll then the deal was off

[39:41] because it's no longer the deal we had we could still put the plate up okay we

[39:46] we had a deal with Creekwood that we' pay the lake oh no the deal change she

[39:51] told me she told me that there' be $1600 feet of Bo under the driveway now I'm

[39:57] not I'm we if all I'm saying the fair thing to do is we offered to pay the

[40:04] light the charge okay now Bay City Electric's putting the light up which is

[40:10] fine I think we should still pay this six or seven do a month because that's

[40:16] what we agreed with those people in that sub or that Condo Association place and

[40:22] they pay good taxes in there too don't ever forget that I'm going to make a

[40:26] motion to to resend the motion to pay the creek with street lights cuz they're

[40:29] extremely happy with Bas City Light and electric they already pay them for their

[40:33] street lights this works just fine so you're

[40:37] not to the bill we had a motion on the floor do we have

[40:44] support I'm not offering to pay the bill they're happy with this they're very

[40:48] happy with this they seem like they're pretty happy

[40:52] with actually right Rich when they walked out the room

[40:57] okay do we have a

[41:05] support okay any

[41:10] support okay then move on do we have a

[41:15] motion I'll make a motion that we send the first motion and pay the dang

[41:20] monthly fee on the late to base City Electric instead of consumers okay we

[41:25] have a motion we have

[41:31] support support okay we have support any discussion all the other neighborhoods

[41:36] pay their light bills thank you we have a millage on every single neighborhoods

[41:42] what about the lights at to intersections this is we have a lot of

[41:47] lights in monor Township that we pay under those light bills this is not a

[41:52] light at the intersection this is a light in their

[41:55] entrance pardon this is not a light at the intersection this is in their

[41:59] entrance it's out on the road no it's not it's the same it's the same as down

[42:04] on the subdivision ones all right I see both sides of this so the only thing

[42:10] that we in your motion Earl is to pay the $6 a month not any installation fees

[42:17] there is no installation fees they're doing it for free yes Paul I said the

[42:22] last motion was to pay the monthly bill everybody in the room here was an

[42:28] agreement with those people were standing it so what difference does it

[42:31] make if it's consumers or Bay City Electric we all agreed to that when was

[42:37] that made was that during this board or was this the last board the previous

[42:41] board I think it was the previous board so we weren't there was some people that

[42:44] weren't here just saying I just I was at that meeting

[42:51] yep yeah I can see both sides of this

[43:04] okay so we had a motion we had a support any other

[43:09] discussion okay roll

[43:15] call Arnold yes Beller yes Meer yes ma yes Spencer no

[43:27] Ferguson no CLA yes okay motion carried next on the

[43:34] agenda uh new business um we uh kind of go into what I think was brought up

[43:41] earlier

[43:44] um I have uh Christen McDonald revette on the agenda here and I just uh we also

[43:50] have a letter there that we would ask the board for

[43:54] signatures um and uh I did speak to uh I don't know the technical name of the

[44:01] person in this area but I call them their handlers um hope that's the right

[44:06] term but I did speak to him and I and I did uh request that uh you know that

[44:13] Chrisette our congresswoman that she make an appearance here in monitor

[44:17] Township I know that um I've received just hundreds and hundreds and hundreds

[44:22] and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that have contacted me uh uh

[44:27] and U I think there's some things that maybe she could discuss with this board

[44:32] so um so uh there is a letter there um we'd

[44:38] like the board members to everybody's got a chance to look at it any

[44:47] questions we have a

[44:53] motion this may never come to a pollution or correct correct I mean we

[44:57] do have the letter there so I I would say that if we could uh you know we

[45:01] agree to sign the letter we'll send that off to her um she may never come so but

[45:06] we'll we'll give her that opportunity and the same thing with the next thing

[45:10] um I was asked a question about use of the hall um and obviously we have to do

[45:14] that in two different lines but um I want to put the opportunity out there so

[45:19] um if we had a motion to sign the letter and send that to her we'll get that off

[45:24] motion okay we have motion do have support

[45:27] okay support any other the discussion all in favor I I any oppose

[45:34] nay okay motion carried uh next up U as just discussed uh I would like to get

[45:40] approval um if she decides to have office hours um and I know she's going

[45:45] to have office hours uh at least the last Congress person had office hours in

[45:49] Bay City and Banger Township and um I think that District goes all the way up

[45:54] into arnet County I believe um but I've seen him yep y so I'd like to put that

[46:00] invitation out to her with this board's approval uh we have a

[46:05] motion motion okay we have a motion and we

[46:11] support I'll support it okay any other discussion roll call okay roll call

[46:18] Beller yeah Meer yes me yes Spencer yes Ferguson yes

[46:26] CLA yes Arnold yes motion carried okay next up uh resolution R

[46:35] 2025-the

[46:42] okay support we have a motion we have support any

[46:46] discussion now how do this go about do do the governor pick somebody to run or

[46:51] do we the the governor has to call the

[46:55] special election but only she can um and and we had uh last week when we were at

[47:02] the uh the Bay Area Chamber of Commerce you know there was a lot of U Push by

[47:06] the Bay Area Chamber to get uh people involved with contacting uh the

[47:10] governor's office because basically our district is left we don't have any

[47:15] representation so um I'm also uh um I do believe there should be and I would ask

[47:22] everybody I was going to bring up a supervisor report U and I know that

[47:25] probably everybody here has but we certainly should be con contacting our

[47:29] congresswoman who left that seat um she was endorsed by the governor I'm

[47:33] imagining she probably has her phone numbers they've taken pictures together

[47:37] maybe she can contact her and ask her uh to represent her people so we'll see

[47:44] so sorry I get off there Jim uh no I just you know yeah if some if they

[47:50] declare it's going to be in a special election then somebody can apply or

[47:55] whatever or however they want to do it yes yep just like a regular

[48:00] election

[48:04] usually y good pise for that we do we do yeah okay

[48:14] uh all in favor I I any opposed okay motion

[48:21] carried um then

[48:25] uh okay do that that the next one actually was that covered into that last

[48:29] one too the letter or no we get it that's a separate one yeah um letter to

[48:33] govern Whitmore um we're asking that the board members all sign that letter which

[48:39] I do do we have a copy of that here yeah it's in our pack a bigger copy at the

[48:44] counter sign okay um so I'll make that motion make we have a motion support any

[48:54] discussion okay all in favor I I okay next up uh Four Mile Road uh

[49:02] information from uh Jim lilow at the Bay County Road Commission uh can we get a

[49:08] motion to accept

[49:14] knowledge just information just information move on Ro okay sir Road

[49:19] just want everybody to let him know so okay next

[49:23] up um ordinance okay go ahead can we include

[49:27] ordinance 67 m n o PQ in one motion got to do them IND we got to do them all

[49:35] individually okay ordinance uh 67m introduction and first reading changes

[49:40] the new definitions of structure regarding signs do we have a motion I'll

[49:45] make a motion okay we have a motion uh do we have support support we have

[49:50] support any

[49:53] discussion roll call please Meer yes ma yes Spencer yes Ferguson yes

[50:02] CLA yes Arnold yes B yes motion carried next up ordinance 67

[50:11] n to that effect okay we have a we have a motion do we have

[50:17] support who was a motion I'm sorry B was the motion you're

[50:22] quick support we have support from mayor um any

[50:30] discussion just just to let people know uh all these came to the Planning

[50:35] Commission they were amended brought up to Snuff so we're in compliance thanks

[50:39] to the planner so these have all been gone over and agreed upon and so they're

[50:45] here for your consideration flight pass considered

[50:49] done for Tri City flight pass considered in this for

[50:54] wi cuz I know section six is a indirect flight path cuz I watch him fly over my

[51:00] house every day we intentionally other un government run

[51:06] their own courts you didn't want to deprive the governor her right to have

[51:13] taking all of our property and so the federal government says they

[51:19] can't airport Grand Siberian so we had we had a map MDS that showed us

[51:27] for all of the surrounding airports so we have that

[51:33] information you know we didn't we didn't really use that information making our

[51:39] decision because that will fall to federal government not so if the federal

[51:45] government says you can't be here that's somebody else's

[51:51] problem you understand where I'm going yep well we gave you a chance good yes

[51:58] okay um roll call me yes Spencer yes Ferguson yes CLA yes Arnold yes Beller

[52:09] yes Meyer yes carried okay next up ordinance

[52:14] 670 first reading regulate utility scale battery energy facility storage systems

[52:20] I'll make a motion to approve okay we have a motion do we have support I'll

[52:25] support okay we have support any

[52:29] discussion roll call please Spencer yes Ferguson yes CLA yes Arnold yes Beller

[52:37] yes Meyer yes ma yes motion carried next up ordinance 67p introduction first

[52:45] reading regarding solar energy systems under PA

[52:49] 233 Mo a motion I'll make a motion that we

[52:53] [Music] approve okay support motion support any

[53:02] discussion okay roll call Ferguson yes CLA yes Arnold yes Beller yes Meyer yes

[53:11] ma yes Spencer yes motion carried next up ordinance 67 Q introduction first

[53:18] reading regarding wind energy convergence systems under PA 22 or

[53:23] 233 I'll make a motion to approve okay we have a motion do we have support

[53:28] support any discussion roll call

[53:32] please CLA yes Arnold yes Beller yes Meyer yes ma yes

[53:41] Spencer yes Ferguson yes carried okay um see next up uh let's see release PA was

[53:50] off skipping the next three yep next three yep yep so next one is the reu

[53:55] reduction request for from Midland Bay City mhpl

[54:00] LLC uh don you want to fire away on that think you said you had some information

[54:05] you want to

[54:08] share on Ru on the ru yeah I think they came and asked you

[54:14] for a reduction the residential CL and we asked them we advise them that they

[54:21] should bring that supporting documentation to the board because

[54:25] that's the board decision but what I don't know is if they've

[54:29] actually reduced the amount of pads that they're have at the trailer park and if

[54:35] they' reduced the number of pads and that's causing the reduction then we

[54:39] need to verify that those sanitary sewer Services have indeed been properly

[54:46] abandoned but I don't know if that's I don't know if that's what they've done

[54:49] or not okay uh do we have a recommendation I'll make a motion we

[54:54] table it till we get the appropriate information mhm I I have one quick

[54:58] question for Don yep is it could it be possible because they went from single

[55:04] singles to doubles it possible but I guess then the question I have is if

[55:11] they went from say 10 pads down to five pads and now they don't have those 10

[55:18] sanitary sewer Services they only have five right how did they abandon those

[55:24] five services because if we're going to

[55:26] reduce their Rus then those need to be properly

[55:30] abandoned and not opened up again until they come back and say I need five more

[55:36] services again then they repay and then they

[55:43] repay okay so we had a motion to table this uh do we have support oh just you

[55:49] have say that again you're going to have somebody look into it it's going to

[55:54] verify that the sanitary sewer has been abandoned properly and not and cannot be

[55:58] opened up again with the proper calculation if that was done

[56:03] right right I'll get with that okay um so we

[56:10] had support now support it okay we had

[56:14] support any other

[56:18] discussion okay roll call Arnold yes Val Meer yes ma yes

[56:28] Spencer yes Ferguson yes CLA yes motion carried okay next up uh request for

[56:34] sewer charge reduction 2712 South Westgate Drive we have a

[56:41] motion we got we got

[56:46] a isn't that the one that was already forgiven once yep it is do we have that

[56:53] it's in your packet yeah okay asking our attorney isn't all a one-time deal what

[57:00] your resolution said I thought it was a one time up to

[57:05] $500 right well this is their second time coming back so it's like it's a no

[57:11] right Rich isn't that what it says it's what the resolution say here it

[57:16] is there's really no discussion I

[57:21] thought once forgiveness is given there will be no second forgiveness of okay

[57:28] you have a motion Earl no I don't think we have to do anything do we because

[57:32] it's already down deny it yeah need to amend the resolution or you say based on

[57:38] our resolution you've already

[57:42] used I'll make a motion to that effect okay we have a motion we have support

[57:48] yeah okay we have support any other discussion why weren't these people I

[57:53] mean why didn't we tell them that when they came here cuz was in my head I was

[57:56] thinking it was 500 up to $500 once I got the

[58:00] $500 so it was my bad a lot of times they just mail it in or email it or drop

[58:05] it off they don't necessarily talk to us either so depend on who it is but

[58:11] um okay uh roll call roll

[58:19] call Beller yes Meyer yes is that we don't forgive right

[58:25] great correct yes mil yes Spencer yes Ferguson yes CLA yes and Arnold

[58:35] yes carried okay next up uh refund request

[58:40] PE 24- 0073 to AJR home sales

[58:48] $93.75 do we have a motion and can we add the next one too CU it goes the same

[58:54] yes thank you I'll make that motion okay we have a

[59:00] motion do we have support support any discussion roll call

[59:08] please Meer yes me yes Spencer yes Ferguson yes

[59:16] CLA yes Arnold yes Beller yes motion Carri okay next up assistant fire chief

[59:22] job description update do we have a motion

[59:27] make that motion okay we have a motion do we have support okay any

[59:33] discussion all in favor I I any oppos nay okay motion carried next up uh

[59:41] appointments to zoning board of appeals uh Jim horn do we have a

[59:46] motion I'll make that motion okay we have a motion do we have

[59:51] support support support any discussion

[59:56] all in favor I I I any opposed okay motion carried uh next up

[1:00:04] zoning board of appeals uh Duff Zu have a motion I'll make a motion to

[1:00:11] approve okay a motion to approve do we have support support we have support any

[1:00:16] discussion all in favor I I any opposed okay motion carried next up uh

[1:00:24] appointments to board of review uh first we have uh Robert I just mess up his

[1:00:29] last name ke B Keem bom B uh me a

[1:00:36] motion I a question yes what is the board of review since I'm new on the

[1:00:40] board and uh every year uh the board of review uh has to meet for people to come

[1:00:48] in to discuss um issues they may have in their

[1:00:52] taxes Y and uh so we're we're set that we have to do them uh we have to do like

[1:00:58] a morning afternoon and a night session once a year and then we let people come

[1:01:03] in and and a lot of them that we do are you know with veterans and stuff like

[1:01:06] that so right um all you got to say was taxes and I

[1:01:11] it okay uh do I'm sorry do we have a motion no for Bob

[1:01:16] then motion okay we have a motion do we have support support support any

[1:01:22] discussion all in favor I I I any oppose osed okay motion carried uh appointments

[1:01:28] to the Board review we have Paul wisloff we have a motion motion okay we have

[1:01:34] support support support support uh any

[1:01:40] discussion all in favor I I any opposed okay motion carried next up uh board of

[1:01:47] review uh we had Wade Ean rod have a motion motion we have support you're

[1:01:55] just in there support okay um any discussion I'm kind of letting Linda

[1:02:00] figure out which one came first so uh all in favor I I any opposed okay motion

[1:02:08] carried uh and uh last but not least appointments Board review uh as an

[1:02:14] alternate Darlene trig do we have a motion motion you have

[1:02:19] support support okay any discussion okay all in favor I I any

[1:02:29] opposed okay motion Carri uh next up budget adjustment for

[1:02:41] 20124 she's still writing Y no I'm good waiting for a motion okay do we have a

[1:02:48] motion I'll make it okay we have a motion for Budget adjustments for 2024

[1:02:52] do we have support yes but I got a question okay we

[1:02:56] have support and discussion go ahead Earl uh I see they haven't paid the cell

[1:03:01] tower yet Jim I wouldn't even thought of talking about the sell Tower there like

[1:03:07] when do they normally pay their second payment because we only got 338 in there

[1:03:13] they supposed to get 60 but if they pay late every year then we'd still have the

[1:03:18] rate of M has anybody checked into that cuz there's still

[1:03:24] 26,1 15 3

[1:03:28] behind

[1:03:32] yep and if they pay like every year in February or something then we'd already

[1:03:38] had the February one all what I'm saying so somebody should check into

[1:03:44] that one Terry oh go ahead sorry wasn't there

[1:03:49] some other requirements uh to renew the collapse zone of this thing and be sure

[1:03:55] it's up to Snuff with the original contract that was on the modification

[1:04:01] Paul had read the back page y out that they had so this is this is your lease

[1:04:07] and I think I don't know if Jim asked how much you got for it but but it

[1:04:11] renewed you got like a 5080 $100,000 check okay and now they pay 20 grand a

[1:04:19] year 60,000 a year for 5 years mhm what the agreement was

[1:04:27] but they're a little behind it went up based on how many I think it was I don't

[1:04:33] I it could be but I don't believe that because I thought we agreed to the sick

[1:04:38] that when we did that for that so many years but we had that debate last month

[1:04:43] yeah FES that thick it doesn't matter anyway we got to

[1:04:49] collect what we do always yeah okay any other

[1:04:53] discussion okay roll call

[1:04:58] I lost my sheet oh here it

[1:05:04] is Milan yes Spencer yes Ferguson yes CLA yes Arnold yes Beller yes and Meer

[1:05:14] yes motion carried okay um and that that other next line was on that with that

[1:05:19] right okay oh I'm going to no this is a separate motion we want a motion to

[1:05:24] revoke the mo that made last month to spend that arpa

[1:05:28] money on sty Park and instead to use the money from general fund that's my motion

[1:05:32] okay we have a motion do we have support supp support we have support any

[1:05:38] discussion roll call roll call Spencer yes Ferguson yes CLA yes Arnold yes

[1:05:45] Beller yes Meyer yes me yes Carri money okay next up Hall request Bay City

[1:05:52] Alliance Club 31225 do we have a motion motion we have a motion do we have

[1:06:02] support support okay any discussion do they meet all the township requirements

[1:06:07] 5013c blah blah blah blah yes yep I'll go

[1:06:15] along yep and um and and if we had to we can uh put our thumb

[1:06:21] on uh County Commissioner Von Beek was in the audience because he's a uh a card

[1:06:26] carrying officer of that club so whoa here we

[1:06:30] go okay roll call roll call please Ferguson yes CLA yes Arnold yes Beller

[1:06:38] yes Meyer yes me yes Spencer yes motion Carri uh next up personal policy changes

[1:06:47] earned sick time act and I think we had a little addition that we were going to

[1:06:52] put into that that that headache yeah yeah um rich just told me

[1:06:58] to so like the the star that says must change the Personnel policy to reflect

[1:07:05] at all sick time we're not going to have that we're going going to say that as

[1:07:09] long as a law requires it because they're trying to change this so we'll

[1:07:15] make that correction um does not carry over from

[1:07:19] year to year and it's not to be paid out not required to be paid out when the

[1:07:23] employee leaves so my motion was would be that we make that correction as long

[1:07:28] as the law requires on that sentence where the star is and then um the second

[1:07:34] star that I have is um for full-time employees since they get vacation days

[1:07:40] those days can count toward our state requirements for sick time but then all

[1:07:45] unus vacation days must also be carried over from year to year and those must be

[1:07:51] paid out when the employee leaves which they are anyway so that doesn't really

[1:07:54] change anything I just want to get compliant because this law takes effects

[1:07:58] the 21st of the month this month and we don't we need to account for it in our

[1:08:02] Personnel policy okay now you on the um vacation days it used to be the policy

[1:08:08] You' get you could roll over five days you can roll over up to a year that's

[1:08:13] our policy because it's not no six days or five days remember if we didn't use

[1:08:18] up that's that was a fire department's deal but six days you get five a year

[1:08:24] and then at the end of the year if you didn't use them you didn't get paid them

[1:08:27] and they didn't roll I'm not talking sick okay vacation days you can acrew

[1:08:31] one year and I understand that and one year is going to change based on how

[1:08:35] long you've been here of how much you've earned so you can acrw one year over I

[1:08:38] don't know about the five days well there was something about you could if

[1:08:43] if there was some reason we couldn't take your our five or all our like I had

[1:08:48] 11 days at the end couldn't take them all you come in here and you ask to re

[1:08:53] to ask if you could roll them over or get paid for them yeah but I think you

[1:08:58] guys put a number down as five five days I don't know about that well that's what

[1:09:03] I've been told there was a five day but what I've heard about this law and a

[1:09:08] caveat to it is you can no longer they keep building yep I mean I

[1:09:16] mean you can't just say after another year you lose these many days you got to

[1:09:20] keep building them cor okay yeah yep thanks Michigan hence my small

[1:09:26] businesses are going to close yeah uh so do we have support on

[1:09:34] that support okay any other discussion

[1:09:41] okay Ashley do you want to do a roll call on that or I do

[1:09:47] okay restaurants CLA yes Arnold yes Beller yes Meer yes maen yes Spencer yes

[1:09:58] Ferguson yes motion carried okay next up uh Waste Management uh start yard waste

[1:10:05] later so it can uh go longer in the fall uh we've had this brought up multiple

[1:10:11] times uh at least to me uh people have called because our Waste Management yard

[1:10:17] waste ends in the fall but sometimes we don't have winter uh around uh Halloween

[1:10:25] anymore or snow you know so there's still a lot of yard waste so uh we had

[1:10:30] talked to Jill before from Waste Management uh we can extend it they

[1:10:35] would uh basically pick it up start it later and just extend it more in the

[1:10:39] fall um so I was wondering if we wanted to try that out and see how it worked

[1:10:43] and and this will be the year if we do it it'll probably start snowing and

[1:10:47] Halloween but when do you want to when do did you want to start it it basically

[1:10:53] just take a week or two later than we Norm do and then end a week or two later

[1:10:57] that's exactly how sorry I don't remember what the start date is but yeah

[1:11:00] we just move it the only problem is we sent a newsletter out that said the

[1:11:03] start date and the end date based on what the contract was but I talked to

[1:11:08] Taylor about that and she said she doesn't mind we put it on the sign she

[1:11:10] doesn't mind answering extra thousand phone calls that'll come in

[1:11:14] but yeah she doesn't mind and people want it let's try it you can put it on

[1:11:19] your website too we can put a lot of places but it just it was in the

[1:11:22] newsletter but then who reads the newsletter so that's right surrounding

[1:11:25] townships have already done it Banger done it with great success so I think

[1:11:29] it's a great idea okay yeah it was I'm sorry so do we want

[1:11:37] to do it y do we have a motion one or two weeks I'll make a motion okay we

[1:11:41] have a motion weeks two weeks two weeks okay I'll support it you have support

[1:11:47] this is on a temporary basis right this year yeah we'll do it for this year and

[1:11:50] see how it works all right okay uh um Arnold yes Beller yes

[1:11:58] Meyer yes me yes Spencer yes Ferguson yes CLA yes motion carried okay next up

[1:12:07] uh reports Mr Von Beck county commissioner all right with a whole

[1:12:15] bunch of stuff in his hand so thank you let us have our corn beef dinner you're

[1:12:20] all invited by the way thank you it's a good it's a good

[1:12:23] dinner um so we have our letter ready to go I think we're going to vote on

[1:12:28] tomorrow to the governor about the election so we've got that

[1:12:31] ready uh Bridges another Hot Topic um we were supposed to have Kevin

[1:12:40] bishell I think his name is come in he was like here early on and then a couple

[1:12:45] other people came along and now he's back again we actually had a a

[1:12:49] conversation with them or online chat B Bay Metro got a deal they were to

[1:12:55] deal with them they got like a reduced fee they pay so much each month and and

[1:12:59] bay Metro was not using the bridges so it was a wind sort of for the for the

[1:13:04] bridge people because they got money out of it we're looking at trying to work a

[1:13:08] deal because our costs are like 400 to 500 600,000 a year if we had to pay the

[1:13:14] the rates we've been trying to avoid the bridges on some occasions can't always

[1:13:18] do it um so we're trying to work and deal with them for a reduced rate so

[1:13:24] much each month somewhere around 86,000 is the last number I heard I don't know

[1:13:29] if that's going to go through we going to have him come in tomorrow and talk

[1:13:32] but now he's coming later because of all the stuff going on so I don't know if y

[1:13:38] all know Matt huitt lawyer down the road here he's been writing a lot of stuff

[1:13:43] online I was just reading his like about a long dissertation about it and

[1:13:48] his thing is to to have ambassadors stir people through the city and avoid the

[1:13:53] the toll brdes because is afraid we're going to lose all the tourism during the

[1:13:57] summer cuz they're going to you know they're going to get a bill on the mail

[1:14:00] and they'll never come back again over the over our bridges so so he's

[1:14:04] concerned about the effects on the economy so we'll see how that all plays

[1:14:09] out we I was here right after our last board meeting I'm here right before our

[1:14:14] next board meeting so we've got a few things on the agenda we've got the

[1:14:19] materials management plan which is a which is a uh disposal plan that we have

[1:14:25] to draw up for the uh State about how to get rid of our uh trash and where to put

[1:14:32] it uh we've got some new phones coming for the U Sheriff's Department some new

[1:14:39] mobile phones that up to date the last ones they had have been quite quite a

[1:14:44] few years ago these are going to be 42 Motorola apx 4500 you probably know

[1:14:50] about some of the newer newer phones that are out there now uh

[1:14:55] um some other smaller things nothing nothing major except for the uh the

[1:15:00] letter to the governor and the the bridge issue so questions comments how

[1:15:07] do we solve the bridge issue this bridge issue wasn't it thought of when you

[1:15:13] decided to do this because we do have a lot of tourist people that come here our

[1:15:17] fourth of July thing is huge yeah here yep wasn't any of this taken into

[1:15:23] consideration before this so what Matthew was talking about having people

[1:15:26] steer people through town have ambassadors explain you know to avoid

[1:15:30] the bridges and routes to take you know to avoid uid where it gets jammed up

[1:15:36] rush hour I'm not sure if that's going to happen or not you know that have to

[1:15:40] that sounds great but I don't know if that would yeah traffic flow and then

[1:15:45] you know in next year um I mean the rumor from the road commission is that

[1:15:50] the Vets bridge will be going down to one lane yeah I don't know how long that

[1:15:55] is but uh yes the approaches are not very good to vest bridge right now and

[1:16:00] and if you have an accident on a vest Bridge which they have before you get

[1:16:03] traffic backed up for yeah and it is it's terrible traffic is terrible

[1:16:08] depending on what time of the day you have to go over there so is positive

[1:16:12] is Lafayette is moving along quickly so I think they're a little ahead right now

[1:16:18] so good a breach of contract is what they seem to be working on the city is

[1:16:22] working on right now that they had that when they raised the rat that they broke

[1:16:25] the contract and some people say no they didn't so yeah it'll be decided by the

[1:16:30] lawyers and the judges probably down down the road but again it didn't have

[1:16:33] anything to do with the county so right that way they can't you're not getting

[1:16:37] the blame for it V you told them not to sell yeah the meetings and said don't

[1:16:42] sell don't sell it was all up to the city base City so Mr will is there any

[1:16:48] way if we know vets is going to go down sometime somewhere

[1:16:53] yeah is there been any talk about if that happens that we get a little like a

[1:16:58] few Grace days till it gets back up so people can cross that would be up to Bay

[1:17:03] City Bridge Partners so they're going to they're here for the money they're not

[1:17:07] here for anything else I understand that but I

[1:17:10] mean I hope they're charging them a lot of rent when they in their little office

[1:17:14] over there yeah let's raise their rent any other questions double the fees

[1:17:20] no well thank you thank you they'll just move

[1:17:26] okay next up we have uh Planning Commission report we have two new

[1:17:31] members on the Planning Commission and they were looking into possibly having

[1:17:35] some kind of training I brought it to the supervisor after our last meeting

[1:17:40] and it looks like the MTA is going to have some updates in Franken Moot and we

[1:17:45] encourage those members to fill out the the necessary paperwork and there's

[1:17:50] money in the account to send them other than that our next meeting's been

[1:17:54] canceled okay thank

[1:18:01] youe that a cancel this one was cancel I got back

[1:18:08] up okay and next up we have Jim Meer with tech information uh we had a

[1:18:14] meeting February 6 um basically we've for the month of

[1:18:22] January we used 2 million two 2 point or no 211 million gallons of water were

[1:18:30] pumped through the system

[1:18:34] um it wasn't much chse on the agenda but uh they also asked that um the white

[1:18:42] Beach is now part of the system they um they'll be build through

[1:18:48] poning or they'll build the water department poning we get the bill and

[1:18:53] build and P will dist distribute the bills to the customers and also they're

[1:19:00] just asking that um me the uh attendance has been kind of weak so they just been

[1:19:06] asking for people to they're going to I think you're going to everybody's

[1:19:09] getting a letter saying that please have your representative show up so that was

[1:19:14] it okay thank you Jim okay next up uh supervisor report

[1:19:22] um as you're probably all aware today um our new firefighter Wayne Williams

[1:19:27] started so um wishing him success um thank you for the information

[1:19:34] that uh was put out there the contact information um now that we have this

[1:19:40] stuff that we had pass the board we'll be getting them letters out and we'll be

[1:19:43] pushing a lot more of that on our social media and our web page to contact uh the

[1:19:48] governor's office and uh you know um it's just it's just unfortunate that

[1:19:55] um our communities being played with with politics I mean you

[1:20:00] know in in in my understanding I don't know if this is true or not but you know

[1:20:05] the reason it's not getting filled is because there's a fear that it won't be

[1:20:09] the way the governor would want it to be filled on party affiliation and whether

[1:20:14] that's true or not I want to know but not leaving any representation here uh

[1:20:18] that's just it's shameful so hopefully that'll take care of itself so U we do

[1:20:23] have the number up here as she has number WR there uh I would recommend

[1:20:26] that everybody call the governor's office and also Congressman or

[1:20:30] congresswoman rett's office uh there was a question last month about the rentals

[1:20:35] of the hall and I just wanted to uh make it clear um we had a we had a uh we had

[1:20:40] 56 um rentals at the hall um paying customers and then we had 17 nonprofits

[1:20:48] that we had given it out and uh certainly a couple of them were like the

[1:20:53] Bay City Lions Club um I know we had 4 FFA uh different groups um some of them

[1:21:00] are also um with the uh associations from the subdivisions uh they'll come in

[1:21:06] here and meet every now and again so um just wanted to let everybody know that

[1:21:11] so um I I'm going to I'll have hopefully

[1:21:15] I'll have some information

[1:21:18] uh next month uh there's a gentleman here who did a lot of work uh Mark uh

[1:21:24] lives in your subdivision there um he's a teacher at a western p p Petroski

[1:21:30] Petroski yes uh he did some work uh with different murals uh in Bay City and uh

[1:21:37] we had had some discussion about um and I have talked to mot a couple years back

[1:21:43] about like doing underneath uh the overpass at 75 in Midland Road there so

[1:21:48] and I and I would like to talk to M do um also about maybe uh doctoring that up

[1:21:54] a little bit that were um they could put it like a welcome to monitor Township uh

[1:21:58] something on there so anyway uh hope can you include that flag out here that the

[1:22:03] VFW wanted to paint as long as you're going to talk to

[1:22:08] the5 yeah yeah I could ask them about that as well yeah see if they have an

[1:22:13] issue with it because they I guess they still want to paint it and make it look

[1:22:16] decent okay yeah that's a nice flag yep okay um and uh there was a question in

[1:22:24] regards to um this battery facility um and just

[1:22:30] so we're clear the township has not had anything that has come into the township

[1:22:34] reference that place and and you're absolutely correct uh them overlay

[1:22:38] districts are not in that section so um we just passed ordinance tonight uh and

[1:22:45] we have to there's so many days how many days is that it's got to get um I'm

[1:22:50] sorry we have to do the second reading we do the second reading thank you for

[1:22:54] the special meeting that we're going to look to have on what was the date there

[1:22:58] Linda the 24th at 5: PM we're looking to have a a special meeting uh the purpose

[1:23:05] of that special meeting will be to do this the second

[1:23:08] reading um and uh and I don't know that there and

[1:23:16] we'll yep publish and then go effective after the publication and so hopefully

[1:23:21] that's the only thing on the agenda unless we have something come up but

[1:23:24] that's the we're looking at so just FYI everybody um but I did talk to fire

[1:23:29] chief and uh I do have a email um I'm going to send it over to Linda and she's

[1:23:35] going to email it um to the rest of the board members um and basically the

[1:23:41] question that I asked was hey um if we get this type of facility here um what

[1:23:48] are we going to do and there's a lot of unknowns because obviously it's not

[1:23:50] built yet is it going to be one or is it going to be two uh long of the short

[1:23:54] can't put it out the fire department can't put it out

[1:23:58] so if one of these facilities get built here in uh down over the embackment road

[1:24:04] um it catches on fire I'm not an expert in any of these I have uh looked up and

[1:24:08] seen some videos online of some of these places burning um but it seems like they

[1:24:13] Evacuate the area in some cases um because of the toxic uh stuff that it

[1:24:19] puts out in the air um and then they Circle and until the fire goes out so

[1:24:26] the training I went through for EVS their batteries which is the same

[1:24:30] concept yep is they actually told us if you have the means to dig a hole dig a

[1:24:34] hole and bury it um they actually documented uh one EV it took him 40,000

[1:24:41] gallons of water to put it out because it's individual cells and as one cell

[1:24:46] Burns it superheats the next cell which combusts which superheats and it's just

[1:24:51] a continuous gen reaction yeah they just had all that on La fires they can't go

[1:24:55] in and get those cars out because they have the batteries in them and they have

[1:25:00] to be hazardous waste disposed of and they're taking them out into the desert

[1:25:04] and they're bearing them yes so uh when you when you contact the governor and

[1:25:08] the congresswoman uh thank them for taking that right away from us to decide

[1:25:11] what happens in our community um and let's hope we don't have any fires over

[1:25:15] there if they do build them so um where do these people go when they Evacuate

[1:25:19] the area what's the plan I there is there is no there is no plan right now

[1:25:24] Jim we have need to put one together well I talked to them about that and I

[1:25:27] do agree with that but they haven't turned anything in so we don't know if

[1:25:31] they're we don't know what they're building okay but once they uh once they

[1:25:37] once they come in with plans let's say they did build um one of the first

[1:25:41] things and I talked to the chief about this we'll meet with the Bay County

[1:25:44] Emergency Management and we'll start discussing them because they'll have to

[1:25:47] make a uh sop protocols for that kind of stuff right now we don't have that so um

[1:25:53] so yeah but you're absolutely right so that wind studies all Direction yeah so

[1:25:58] it's going to be a a lot of stuff will have to come about that so um and I have

[1:26:04] seen the Eagles I had two of them in my front yard just uh a couple weeks ago so

[1:26:09] that was kind of neat um let's

[1:26:14] see meet um I think oh uh there was a question

[1:26:20] about um and I apologize if I if I had spoken correctly but uh with this wall

[1:26:28] um I didn't want this wall here uh when we remodeled this my push as a

[1:26:35] supervisor was to go as far as that uh boat back where uh Jill is back there to

[1:26:42] that wall um I don't like this setup but um unless the board decides to

[1:26:49] tear down the new wall and build another boardroom uh in in one we had that

[1:26:55] discussion uh we had a couple people that showed up that I don't believe

[1:26:58] danced on that dance floor in 20 or 30 years but they made a big deal out of it

[1:27:02] that they weren't going to have the dance floor um I don't know that I and

[1:27:06] it's and I get it but you know do you have a bigger boardroom or do you have

[1:27:10] more hall room but I I did want a b bigger

[1:27:14] boardroom so I apologize but this is what we have um I I

[1:27:20] can't we don't know whether a meeting is going to be a big meeting or not I I

[1:27:25] don't have any intention of moving back out in that Hall uh to have meetings

[1:27:31] unless we really really really knew that we were going to have you know the

[1:27:35] Planning Commission meeting that we had I knew we'd have a couple people there

[1:27:39] um but it takes our custodian hours to set it up and hours to take it down uh

[1:27:46] we're just going to have to deal with what we got but if we had a bigger one

[1:27:49] than that I would certainly entertain that but just just to let you know what

[1:27:53] our thought process was and I think I answered the questions

[1:27:57] that I was asked there oh the uh the what was the other one

[1:28:09] ma'am uh yeah um I'll talk to I'll talk to Linda tomorrow about that and I

[1:28:15] honestly don't know where we would contact for that but or if we could talk

[1:28:19] after the meeting maybe dep

[1:28:26] I don't know which department

[1:28:32] that yeah what are

[1:28:37] doing yeah we we will look into that and if we can find something um I think Don

[1:28:42] just volunteered [Music]

[1:28:49] um yeah well I agree I agree yeah but but the thing that I just want to point

[1:28:54] out um is again and I'm I'm a broken record here they took that all away from

[1:29:00] us we can't you can still do the oh we can do the study yes but as far as I'm

[1:29:04] putting that there and

[1:29:09] yeah yeah I did have a note uh also about the cameras so yes we did say we

[1:29:14] did indicate last month that um and I even pressed the buttons correctly like

[1:29:19] I was supposed to um but when we went back and reviewed it we found out there

[1:29:24] was a massive delay uh I was kind of like watching a old Godzilla movie where

[1:29:29] people are moving their mouth and no words are coming out um so it didn't

[1:29:33] work long the St long short start um we did contact uh them to come out here and

[1:29:39] look at it again um they did look at it I had uh I did talk to Van uh thank you

[1:29:45] van I forgot to mention that for having the county it guy come out here cuz he

[1:29:49] did come through he gave us a couple recommendations we changed some settings

[1:29:53] um crossing their fingers and we're going to try to post it and if we can

[1:29:57] get them to if they're working right um then we'll post it the next day um I'm

[1:30:03] absolutely 100% tired of the system not working so you're also going to

[1:30:14] take if we can get them to work we're going to put them online but I'm not I'm

[1:30:20] not going to put something on there that's you're basically watching you're

[1:30:24] watching this with no words there was in the one there was like a 10-minute delay

[1:30:28] so you don't know what anybody's talking about so um we're going to work on it

[1:30:33] we're going to get somebody else and if they can't fix it then we're going to

[1:30:36] have to hire somebody else to fix it so um but I'm absolutely sick of it

[1:30:41] um yeah well in the first part of that that wasn't our fault we got a roof leak

[1:30:48] they had to fix it and and so it is what it is so but we're working on it um and

[1:30:53] then is all I have to report so can we can we include in that land study uh

[1:31:00] we're sitting on some Shale mindes here that needs to kind of be looked into as

[1:31:05] well we had a map and somewhere yeah and it travels it got lost that was part of

[1:31:11] our windmill program when we first put it together so hopefully they can come

[1:31:16] up with that did I answer all your questions that you had back there so as

[1:31:20] far as accessibility here you're saying stay this

[1:31:26] unless the board decides they want to extend the boardroom which I would be

[1:31:32] happy to put that on the agenda next month they want to talk about it um but

[1:31:37] we there's some issues some of the issues were the drain

[1:31:42] yeah there's a dra line there's a drain line that comes through here from the

[1:31:46] roof um but originally when I had talked to the Builder and we had used arpa

[1:31:52] money to do this um I talked to him about going out further but the board

[1:31:57] decided they wanted to keep it the original side but that was the old board

[1:32:00] maybe this next board maybe this board will have a different thought just

[1:32:04] because it's it's very unfriendly unwelcoming you know

[1:32:10] minim number many I I agree I agree with all

[1:32:16] that um this is usually the M of people that we have come to the board meetings

[1:32:19] and last month was a yep the other of that was

[1:32:24] start there yeah um the 5:00 start we can talk about it but I don't know if

[1:32:28] there's a whole lot of interest in that I've had very few people that have asked

[1:32:32] me about that so but we can talk about it put it back on okay all right um I

[1:32:39] can say people that have reached out to me they're not they're not interested in

[1:32:44] the live stream at 5:00 because it's a real the time is a but in regard to

[1:32:50] having a 6m option

[1:32:55] okay thank you ma'am all those people that have contacted you have

[1:33:00] here here right get here that's the problem I actually I seen the comment

[1:33:05] today was one of them was talking about this thir time I've seen it before yeah

[1:33:10] we we've had and and just so we are clear and and it is the board's decision

[1:33:15] at the end of the day when I became supervisor in 20120 our board means we

[1:33:18] at 7 we we we often we often had we often had the same three or four people

[1:33:25] here um and and there would be a topic every once in a while that you know that

[1:33:29] we get a lot of people here but it was very far in between so but it's

[1:33:33] something we can discuss for sure so okay anything else from any of the board

[1:33:37] members looking for a motion to adjourn we are looking for a motion to adjourn

[1:33:41] I'll make it okay we have a motion we have

[1:33:44] support I think we had support support okay um any discussion

[1:33:50] all in favor I I any oppos good evening that's supposed to eat after Dark

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