Agenda
[31:43]
Approval of the minutes for the May 18, 2022 meeting.
[31:57]
Monroe County Land Authority Executive Director Monthly Report for May 2022 (through April 30, 2022).
[35:23]
Approval of Second Amended and Restated Interlocal Agreement between Monroe County Land Authority (MCLA) and the Monroe County Board of County Commissioners (BOCC) regarding the administration of Land Acquisition and Management Programs.
[36:24]
Approval to add Block 1, Lots 8 and 9, Amended Plat of The Ladies Acre to the Acquisition List as potential affordable housing sites and to amend the affordable housing eligibility criteria in the Acquisition List to define environmentally sensitive land and reference Comprehensive Plan Policy 601.1.11
[37:18]
Approval of a contract to purchase Block 1, Lots 8 and 9, Amended Plat of The Ladies Acre, Little Torch Key for affordable housing and the adjoining acreage parcel (Parcel ID# 00113230-000000) for conservation, Little Torch Key near mile marker 28.
[38:11]
Approval of a contract to purchase Tier 1 property for conservation – Parcel O of an unrecorded plat (Parcel ID# 00113320-001500), Little Torch Key near mile marker 28.
[38:28]
Approval of a contract to purchase Tier 1 property for conservation - Block 1, Lot 25, Largo City, Key Largo near mile marker 104.
[38:40]
Approval of a contract to purchase property within the City of Marathon for conservation – Block 2, Lot 14; Block 10, Lots 6 and 7; Block 13, Lots 1-6, 12, and 13, Crains Subdivision, Grassy Key near mile marker 58.
[39:01]
Approval of a contract to purchase Tier 1 property for conservation - Block 2, Lots 10, 11, 12, 14, and 15, Ocean Heights, No Name Key near mile marker 30.
[39:50]
Approval of a resolution approving the option agreement for sale and purchase of pre-acquired Florida Forever land described by metes and bounds (Parcel ID# 00108530-000100) on No Name Key to the Board of Trustees of the Internal Improvement Trust Fund; authorizing the Chairman to execute same; and authorizing the Chairman to execute the deed and associated closing documents.
[40:34]
Approval of a resolution committing an additional $571,330 in construction funding to the Monroe County Housing Authority for the Lower Keys Scattered Sites affordable housing development.
[45:22]
BOG approval to execute an Agreement with R.T.R. Financial Services, Inc. to provide collection services for unpaid amounts resulting from Fire Rescue emergency medical air and ground transportation services.
[58:12]
Approval of a resolution of the Board of County Commissioners of Monroe County, Florida approving a County deed to donate two lots for the construction of two (2) affordable housing dwelling units to Habitat for Humanity of the Upper Keys.
[58:41]
Approval of a Resolution Reserving Two (2) Moderate-Income Affordable Housing ROGO Allocations, Pursuant to Monroe County Code Section 138-24(b)(1), For the Construction of Two Affordable Housing Dwelling units on Poinsetta Dr., Lots 14 & 15, Block 6, Holiday Homesites, Key Largo, having Property Identification Numbers 00530730-000000 and 00530740-000000, until June 15, 2026.
[1:01:45]
Approval of an Interlocal Agreement Between Monroe County and the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) Providing $274,500 in Boating Improvement Funds to Support FDEP's Mobile Vessel Pumpout Services for Monroe County (FDEP Contract No. ES008).
[1:09:36]
Approval of the Monroe County 2022-2023 Federal Legislative Agenda.
[1:28:59]
County Administrator's Monthly Report for June 2022.
[2:01:44]
County Attorney Report for June 2022.
[2:04:39]
Presentation under the contract with HDR, Inc. for the Roads Vulnerability Analysis and Capital Plan for County-maintained roads and related services, of a project update on the final vulnerability and criticality assessment results, and the final estimate of $1.6 Billion for the roads adaptation capital plan.
[2:23:56]
Approval to execute an Agreement with R.T.R. Financial Services, Inc. to provide collection services for unpaid amounts resulting from Fire Rescue emergency medical air and ground transportation services.
[2:24:15]
BOCC approval of a Resolution for a Moratorium on new applications for Certificates of Public Convenience and Necessity (COPCN) issued for emergency medical services. The Moratorium is effective June 15, 2022 and will extend for a period of six (6) months. Existing COPCNs that were issued prior to the effective date may be renewed during this period.
[2:24:35]
Approval to accept an offer made by Priority Health, on behalf of a former Monroe County Fire Rescue patient (“Debtor”), by making payment “on account” for less than the full amount for services rendered by Global Sky Aircharter Corporation a/k/a Trauma Star Air Ambulance Transport. In exchange for a 15% reduction in the total billed charges, Priority Health agrees to issue a check to Trauma Star within ten (10) business days of acceptance of the offer. The payment in the amount of $20,145.00, if accepted, will be applied respectively to the Debtor’s account and be considered payment-in-full and final settlement.
[2:24:59]
Approval of the sixth amendment to the FKSPCA Marathon contract for animal control services providing for a CPI adjustment of $32,144.83 (7.0%) effective July 1, 2022. The annual contract amount ($491,356.66) is funded by ad valorem revenues.
[2:25:17]
Approval of Amendment #A1 to Core Contract between Monroe County and Monroe County Department of Health for FY 21/22, to add new civil rights certificate (Attachment III).
[2:25:36]
Approval of an agreement with the State of Florida, Division of Emergency Management, concerning an Emergency Management Preparedness and Assistance Base Grant (Agreement Number A0280), in the amount of $105,806.00, fully grant funded with no county match; and authorization for the County Administrator or his designee to execute any other required documentation in relation to the grant.
[2:26:06]
Approval of a task order with Kisinger Campo and Associates, Inc. (KCA, Inc.) to perform a lifecycle cost analysis to support replacement of the Card Sound Road High Level Bridge, structure #904990 for a not to exceed lump sum amount of $52,784. This task order is being awarded under the continuing services contract between the County and KCA, Inc.
[2:26:27]
Ratification of a support letter signed by the County Administrator to express support of the Pigeon Key Spool Reuse Project for the Specific Cultural Project grant program through the Florida Council on Arts & Culture at the Florida Department of State.
[2:26:43]
Approval of a grant agreement with the Florida Division of Emergency Management to receive Federally funded appropriations for Local Emergency Management and Mitigation Initiative DR-4337-524-R (Contract # H0820), and directing and authorizing the County Administrator or his designee to act in
connection with the application and to provide such additional information as may be required. This grant is for Back-up Generators - Phase I for forty-five (45) critical facilities in the amount of $396,000.00 ($371,250.00 Federal share plus $24,750.00 SRMC) upon execution through April 30, 2023. The county match of $123,750.00 will be funded by One Cent Infrastructure Sales Surtax Fund.
[2:27:12]
Approval to advertise a Request for Proposals (RFP) for Construction Manager at Risk (CMAR) services for design through construction of ten Monroe county facilities, in compliance with the Code of Federal Regulations (2 CFR) for potential Hazard Mitigation Grant Program (HMGP) funding. The purpose is to provide wind retrofit activities to harden the facilities against high winds. The project will be funded with a combination of HMGP State appropriation and One Cent Infrastructure Sales Surtax Fund.
[2:27:37]
Approval of Amendment #1 to renew the Annual Agreement between Tranquility Bay Adult Day Care (Key Largo) and Monroe County Social Services to continue to provide Facility-Based Respite Services to elderly and disabled citizens residing throughout Monroe County in an amount not to exceed $80,000 for the period of 7/1/2022 through 06/30/2023.
[2:27:53]
Approval of Amendment #001 to Contract KCV-2129 between the Alliance for Aging, Inc. (AAA) and Monroe County Board of County Commissioners/Monroe County Social Services to de-obligate $71,051.35 due to a surplus in COVID-19 relief funding.
[2:28:50]
Approval of a contract between Monroe County Board of County Commissioners/Monroe County Social Services (Monroe County Transit) and the Community Transportation Coordinator, Guidance Care Center, Inc., for the contract period of 7/01/2022 to 06/30/2023. This is a non-monetary partnership/collaboration contract required by the State of Florida Commission for the Transportation Disadvantaged.
[2:29:12]
Approval of a Second Amendment to the Agreement for Construction Engineering and Inspection (CEI) services with WSP USA Inc. for the Lower Keys Scenic Viewing Area (Pine Channel Nature Park formerly known as the Big Pine Swimming Hole Project) in a not-to-exceed amount of $31,051.85. This Second Amendment is funded by the one cent infrastructure sales tax.
[2:29:30]
Approval of a Sixth Amendment to the Contract Agreement for Engineering Design and Permitting Services for the Rowell's Waterfront Park development with S&ME, Inc. in the not-to-exceed amount of $15,480.00. This amendment is funded by the one-cent infrastructure sales tax.
[2:29:47]
Report of monthly change orders for the month of May 2022, reviewed by the County Administrator/Assistant County Administrator.
[2:30:04]
Approval of a 2nd Change Order to the contract with SeaTech of the Florida Keys, Inc. in the amount of $88,428.25 for the purchase and installation of additional HVAC units for East Martello. This will be paid by Tourist Development Council Grant #2337.
[2:30:22]
Approval to advertise a Request for Proposals (RFP) for Consulting Services for disaster response and recovery, economic recovery, and other Federal and State programs and funding plans.
[2:30:42]
Approval of a resolution adopting the tentative non ad valorem special assessment for residential solid waste collection, disposal, and recycling rates for fiscal year 2022-2023. The tentative rate will increase by $33.00 per year (8%) to $446.00 per household/unit.
[2:31:03]
Approval of the Monroe County Purchasing Policy, which includes revisions that incorporate Administrative Instruction 4802 into to the policy, thus eliminating the need for that instruction. Other minor changes and corrections were made in the Notice of Request for Competitive Solicitations, Monroe County Purchasing Authorization Form, and the Public Entity Crime Statement.
[2:31:22]
Approval of various resolutions for the transfer of funds and resolutions for the receipt of unanticipated revenue.
[2:32:20]
Approval of Amendment 4 to Grant Agreement 20.h.fh.100.005 with the State of Florida, Department of State, Division of Historical Resources (DHR) for repair of West Martello Citadel due to damage caused by Hurricane Irma. This Amendment to the Grant amends the expiration date from June 30, 2022 to October 31, 2022.
[2:35:03]
Approval to donate salvageable building materials found on parcels acquired by the CDBG-DR Voluntary Home Buyout Program, valued under $5,000.00, to suitable Not-for-Profit 501(C)(3) organizations, such as Habitat for Humanity on a first come, first serve basis and a determination that property to be disposed of is obsolete and not required to be bid for disposal
[2:35:21]
Approval of contract with Charley Toppino and Sons Inc. for Demolition, Removal and Disposal Services for the Voluntary Home Buyout Program funded through Community Development Block Grant-Disaster Recovery (CDBG-DR) funds in the not to exceed amount of $490,000 with no local match requirement.
[2:35:41]
Approval of Partial Release of State Lands Management Lease No. 4549 between Monroe County and the State of Florida, for the Release of Management of Certain State-owned Conservation Lands
[2:36:20]
Approval of Second Amended and Restated Interlocal Agreement between Monroe County Land Authority (MCLA) and the Monroe County Board of County Commissioners (BOCC) regarding the administration of Land Acquisition and Management Programs.
[2:48:53]
Approval to enter into a Master Agreement for Professional Services with Volaire Aviation, Inc for Air Service Development Consulting Services for both Monroe County Airports.
[2:49:16]
Approval of Republic Parking System’s Year Four Budget in the amount of $343,840.00 (11.9%) for Parking Lot Management Services at the Key West International Airport; funded from Airport Operating Fund 404.
[2:49:37]
Report of Airport change orders reviewed by the County Administrator/Assistant County Administrator.
[2:50:06]
Approval of Second Amendment to Airport Operating Agreement with Lyft, Inc., to operate its transportation network business at the Key West International Airport through July 16, 2027.
[2:50:38]
Approval of a Resolution to extend reservation of Twenty-Eight (28) Affordable Housing ROGO Allocations (14 Low-Income and 14 Median-Income), pursuant to Monroe County Code Section 138-24(b)(2), Owner South Cliff Holdings LLC, for property more particularly described as 95295 Overseas Highway, Section 13, Township 62, Range 38 Part Tract 6, Southcliff Estates, Key Largo, having Property Identification Number 00483370-000100 and Lots 1 & 2, Block 1 Revised Plat of Sunrise Point Key Largo, currently having Property Identification Number(s) 00484390-000000 and 00484400-000000, until October 17, 2022.
[2:50:58]
Approval of a Resolution Reserving One (1) Moderate-Income Affordable Housing ROGO Allocation, Pursuant to Monroe County Code Section 138-24(b)(4), For the Construction of One Affordable Housing Dwelling Unit on property at the corner of Cross Way and West Circle Drive on the Ocean Side of Saddlebunch Key, MM 14, Lots 3 and 4, Block 3, Bay Point Amended Plat, Having Property Identification Numbers 00160160-000000 and 00160170-000000, until June 15, 2027.
[2:51:18]
Approval of a $297,843.00 Task Order to Coffin Marine Services, Inc., for the Removal and Disposal of a Derelict Vessel, Funded by an Interlocal Agreement with the Village of Islamorada.
[2:51:43]
Request for Expenditure MCSO Law Enforcement Trust Fund| $500.00 Marathon High School Operation Graduation (all-night event that provides a safe, drug and alcohol free celebration to recognize the achievements of graduating seniors & $1,000.00 Florida Missing Children's Day 2022 that helps raise awareness in the prevention of child abduction and sexual exploitation.
[2:52:04]
Approval to appoint James Seadler to the Key West International Airport Ad-hoc Committee on Noise, replacing Bill Gordon.
[2:52:45]
Approval of the minutes from the regular meeting of March 16, 2022.
[2:53:03]
Approval to remove surplus equipment from inventory via disposal or advertise for bid.
[2:53:26]
Approval of BOCC Warrants (including payroll) for the month of May 2022.
[2:54:56]
Discussion and direction of the potential capital projects applications to be submitted under the "Resilient Florida" program for 2022.
[2:57:11]
Approval of Tourist Development Council expenses for the month of May 2022.
[2:57:35]
Approval of a contract with WSP USA, Inc. for $18,500 to provide professional consulting services to assist the County in reviewing the mobile LiDAR elevation data to be gathered by the LiDAR contractor on behalf of the five municipalities, to be fully funded by the municipalities.
[2:57:57]
Approval of a contract with Wood Environmental and Infrastructure Solutions, Inc. for $554,000 to provide professional mobile LiDAR elevation, surveying and mapping services for roads and facilities in the five municipalities to assist in their resilience planning work, to be fully funded by the municipalities.
[2:58:16]
Approval of a revenue-based $122,086 Interlocal Agreement with Islamorada, Village of Islands, for its share of the $572,500 in professional mobile LiDAR elevation, surveying and mapping services the County is managing on behalf of the five municipalities in the County to assist in their resilience planning work.
[2:58:38]
Approval to enter into a $1,280,509 contract with Adventure Environmental, Inc., the top ranked vendor for the construction of the Canal 25 backfill restoration project in Key Largo; funded by DEP Stewardship Grant LPA0249.
[2:58:52]
Approval to enter into a $2,203,456 contract with Adventure Environmental Inc., the top ranked vendor for the Canal 28 backfill restoration in Key Largo; funded by Stewardship Grant LPA0241.
[2:59:10]
Approval of a revenue-based $4,771 Interlocal Agreement with Layton, for its share of the $572,500 in professional mobile LiDAR elevation, surveying and mapping services the County is managing on behalf of the five municipalities in the County to assist in their resilience planning work.
[2:59:30]
Approval of a revenue-based $150,281 Interlocal Agreement with Marathon for its share of the $572,500 in professional mobile LiDAR elevation, surveying and mapping services the County is managing on behalf of the five municipalities in the County to assist in their resilience planning work.
[2:59:47]
Approval of a revenue-based $10,778 Interlocal Agreement with Key Colony Beach for its share of the $572,500 in professional mobile LiDAR elevation, surveying and mapping services the County is managing on behalf of the five municipalities in the County to assist in their resilience planning work.
[3:00:05]
Approval of Amendment No. 4 in the amount of $30,125.00 to a contract with Erin L. Deady P.A. to provide an updated vulnerability assessment to support the County's Resilient Florida grant applications for 2022; and an extension of time retroactive from May 30, 2022 to December 31, 2022.
[3:00:21]
Approval to enter into a $99,796 Task Order #1, to provide CEI services for the canal 25 Key Largo backfill project under the contract with Wood Environment & Infrastructure Solutions, Inc. for on-call professional engineering services for the canal restoration program for the Category B – Canal Infrastructure Engineering Services, funded by Stewardship grant LPA0249.
[3:00:37]
Approval to enter into a $173,716.00 Task Order #2, to provide CEI services for the canal 28 Key Largo backfill project under the contract with Wood Environment & Infrastructure Solutions, Inc. for on-call professional engineering services for the canal restoration program for the Category B – Canal Infrastructure Engineering Services, funded by Stewardship grant LPA0241,
[3:01:08]
Approval to advertise for installation of a culvert on canal 475 on Geiger Key located between Boca Chica Road, Sirius Lane, Star Lane and Vega Lane as a canal restoration project funded by DEP Grant LPA0249.
[3:01:24]
Approval to enter into Amendment No. 4 for $81,258.91 under the contract with HDR, Inc. for the Roads Vulnerability Analysis and Capital Plan for County-maintained roads and related services, for additional services for grant preparation and outreach and to extend the time to June 24, 2023.
[3:01:40]
Resolution to support the County's planning grant applications under the "Resilient Florida" grant in 2022.
[3:02:16]
Approval of an agreement with Thorn Run Partners (Greg Burns) for federal lobbying services on behalf of Monroe County.
[3:03:35]
Approval to pay the tax certificates that were purchased to pay the outstanding 2020 and 2021 taxes, totaling not to exceed $3,363.11, on the real property acquired located at 27985 Tarpon Terrace on Little Torch Key.
[3:03:50]
Authorization to initiate litigation against MIGUEL ANGEL REYES and DULCE MILAGRO MORLAS and their property, 211 Canal Street, Tavernier, Florida, to seek compliance with the County Code and enforce the lien(s) arising from code compliance case number CE19060066.
[3:04:05]
Authorization to initiate litigation against WINIFRED A. SHOSHIE and her property, 25112 Northside Drive, Summerland Key, Florida, to seek compliance with the County Code and enforce the lien(s) arising from code compliance case number CE19060049.
[3:04:25]
Authorization to initiate litigation against JOSEPHINE MC CARVER STEPHENS and her properties, Overseas Highway (Lots 7 and 8), Sugarloaf Key, Florida, to seek compliance with the County Code and enforce the lien(s) arising from code compliance case numbers CE10030139 and CE19030149.
[3:04:44]
Approval of renewal of Primary Windstorm Insurance Policy with a premium of $1,050,464.00 from Citizens Property Insurance Corporation and authorization for the Risk Manager to sign all necessary forms.
[3:05:07]
Approval to accept proposal for airport public officials liability insurance from Indian Harbor Insurance Company through the Gehring Group with an annual premium of $15,754, and authorization for the Risk Manager to sign all necessary forms.
[3:16:37]
Approval to accept proposal for renewal of airport liability Insurance from ACE Property and Casualty Insurance Company through Arthur J. Gallagher & Co. with an annual premium of $62,145.00, and authorization for the Risk Manager to sign all necessary forms.
[3:16:56]
Approval of a five year agreement with Thomson Reuters for West Complete Print, a library subscription for various legal books used by the County Attorney's Office, and authorization for the County Attorney to execute the Agreement and any additional documents pertaining to the Agreement.
[3:17:29]
Approval to advertise for a public hearing to consider an ordinance amending Section 2-110(1, 3) (Rates of per diem and subsistence allowance) and Section 2-111(c) (Transportation) of the Monroe County Code to increase the County’s reimbursement rates for subsistence (meals) and mileage allowance, to be held at the Board of County Commissioners regular meeting on July 20, 2022 in Marathon, Florida, or as soon thereafter as may be heard.
[3:17:46]
Approval of engagement letter with law firm of Fox Rothschild for advice and representation on intellectual property matters; authorization for County Attorney or his designee to sign.
[3:18:12]
Approval to engage a design professional, as needed, and renovate Bayshore Manor for use as the new headquarters for the Supervisor of Elections and approval for the Administrator, or his designee, to authorize issuance of RFPs, RFSs, or design contracts, as needed.
[3:18:35]
Approval to waive the Monroe County Purchasing Policy and specifically the Purchasing Card Policy to allow for payment for Vehicle Repairs due to an emergency tire replacement on a County vehicle that was used for authorized travel outside of the County in the amount of $206.06
[3:18:54]
Approval of a Resolution and the accompanying Amendment to the Community Swimming Pool Lease Agreement with Upper Keys Community Pool, Inc. to extend the lease term for two (2) years for the property located at Key Largo Community Park.
[3:19:11]
Approval to establish a new fund, Fund 155 for Affordable Housing Initiatives and approval of a resolution concerning the receipt of unanticipated funds.
[3:19:31]
Approval to award and execute a contract with Charley Toppino &
Sons in the amount of $550,000.00 for the construction of the Reduced Scope East Martello Drainage Phase III Improvements project to be paid by Tourist Development Council Grant #2329.
[3:19:48]
Authorization for County Attorney to execute fee agreement letter for Proposed Issuance of Monroe County, Florida Airport Revenue Bonds (Key West International Airport), Series 2022, to supplement the outside counsel agreement with the firm of Nabors, Giblin, and Nickerson, P.A.
[3:20:08]
Approval of a Resolution for the Extension of a Reservation of Twenty (20) Affordable Housing ROGO Allocations in the Moderate Income Category, Pursuant to Monroe County Code Section 138-24(B)(2), for the Development of Twenty (20) Affordable/Employee Housing Dwelling Units on Property Located In Section 21, Township 67 South, Range 26 East, Big Coppitt Key, Approximate Mile Marker 9.5 Gulf-Side, Currently Having Property Identification Numbers 00120940-000000 and 00120940-000301 until July 21, 2023.
[3:20:23]
Approval of request from the Audit Selection Committee to authorize a negotiating team consisting of a designate from the County Attorney's Office and representatives from the Clerk to negotiate a fixed fee contract with the top ranked firm, RSM US LLP, in accordance with Section 218.391(4)(a), Florida Statutes; if for any reason the negotiations are unsuccessful with the top-ranked firm, authorization to negotiate a contract with the second-ranked firm, Cherry Bekaert LLP.
[3:52:15]
A Public Hearing to Consider Approval of a Resolution Approving a Special Permit Allowing a Temporary Construction Staging Area for a Canal Restoration/Water Quality Improvement Project at Property Legally Described as a Part of Tract "A", Sexton Cove Estates - Resubdivision Key Largo, Plat Book 6, Page 30, of the Official Records of Monroe County, Florida (Property Identification No. 00532701-043600).
[3:53:43]
A Public Hearing to Consider Approval of a Resolution Approving a Special Permit to Allow a Temporary Construction Staging Area at Property Located at 2 Eagle Drive, Key Largo (Property Identification No. 00532701-015500), Relating to a Canal Restoration Project (Canal No. 25).
[3:53:59]
A Public Hearing to Consider Approval of a Resolution Approving a Special Permit Allowing a Temporary Construction Staging Area at Property Located at 30 Osprey Drive, Key Largo (Property Identification No. 00532701-015400), Relating to a Canal Restoration Project (Canal No. 25).
[3:54:33]
A Public Hearing to consider adoption of an Ordinance revising Section 19-4 of the Monroe County Code to increase the toll rates for Card Sound Road Toll by the Consumer Price Index (CPI) of 8.5%. The 2-axle rate will increase from $0.80 to $0.87 per axle and the 3-axle or greater rate will increase from $1.05 to $1.14 per axle, and each additional axle will increase from $1.05 to $1.14. Due to increased administrative cost for collecting and processing Toll-by-Plate transactions, a Toll-by-Plate 2-axle rate will be established at $1.31 per axle, the 3-axle will be established at $1.71 per axle and each additional axle will be $1.71.
[4:05:07]
A Public Hearing to consider adoption of an ordinance amending Monroe County Code Section 21-72(a), regulations of Specialty Haulers and Transfer Stations, to allow for the number of annual Specialty Hauler Licenses to be increased from the limit of 24 annual Specialty Hauler Licenses to 40.
[4:06:09]
Discussion of options for off street parking at Bay Drive.
[4:16:52]
Discussion and direction for the installation of payment application software for parking at the County parks and beaches.
[4:22:32]
Discussion and direction for response to the requests for extraordinary rate increases on residential collection fees by Waste Management, Marathon Garbage Service, and Keys Sanitary Service due to increases in labor and fuel costs and increases in haul out and disposal costs.
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[6:01]
>> well, good morning,
everyone.
[6:05]
they changed our mic. System
jethon.
[6:06]
jethon.
Well.
[6:10]
well.
[6:13]
>> yeah, so thank y ou for
2022-06-15t09:00:51.9579036-04:00
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2022-06-15t09:00:51.9579036-04:00
let's stand and salute the
flag.
[6:21]
>> I pledge allegiance to the
[6:23]
flag of the united states of
[6:23]
america and to the republic
nation
[6:36]
nation
under god, indivisible, with
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liberty and justice for all.
Do we h ave any additions,
[6:44]
do we h ave any additions,
corrections or deletions?
[6:48]
>> good m orning, we have one
today.
[6:50]
>> just o ne.
>> just o ne.
[6:55]
it's going to b e an add on,
16 of your agenda.
[7:01]
16 of your agenda.
The item number will be s as
[7:06]
is sam 9, s9, county clerk
audit s election committee the
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audit s election committee the
authorize a n egotiating team
[7:10]
consisting of a sdig gnat
from
[7:13]
the county attorney's o ffice
clerk to negotiate a fixed
[7:18]
clerk to negotiate a fixed
contract with the top ranked
[7:24]
contract with the top ranked
firm, rsmusllp in a ccordance
[7:29]
with section 218 .3914a,
florida statutes, I f for any
[7:32]
reason the negotiations are
unsuccessful with t he top
[7:32]
rank
firm, authorization to
[7:35]
negotiate a contract with the
second rank firm, cherry
[7:39]
baker
llp, and that w as an add-on
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to
today's jep da.
[7:42]
>> okay, and that's it toda.
>> that's it.
[7:46]
>> so, if it hadn't been for
a
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a
perfect agenda, r ight.
>> yes, s ir.
[7:54]
I believe t he county attorney
wanted to delete item k1 fr
[7:59]
the agenda which is on page 9.
We got dismissed suits.
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we got dismissed suits.
>> page 9 , delete closed
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session, we do not penalize
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deletions by the way, only
>> okay.
[8:14]
>> okay.
>> that is echoing.
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>> is t he audience, can you
these l iltsbacker little
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these l iltsbacker little
speakers?
No?
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it's us, can you turn the
or no?
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or no?
>> can we do it ourselves?
>> [inaudible].
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>> okay.
>> mayor, may w e have a
[8:37]
motion
the a pprove the additions,
corrections and d eletions?
[8:41]
>> yes, as soon as we g et the
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speaker problem --
>> move the approve.
>> second.
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er
>> we have a m otion ask a
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second, the a genda is
.
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.
>> okay, we have some awards
[8:53]
>> okay, we have some awards
today.
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>> sir, wliel y ou are coming
er
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er
>> you bet.
.
[9:03]
er that will be o n page 2,
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item b-1, p resentation of
years o f service award in
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recognition of 15 y ears of
service t o adam kasprzak,
[9:33]
electrical inspector slb
plans
examiner, m onroe county
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building department.
>> good morning, mr. Mayor
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and
commissioners, it g ives me
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great p leasure the award adam
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his 1 5 year pin.
Typical one b ut a truly
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typical one b ut a truly
from eastern europe via
[9:57]
from eastern europe via
california and serves us
[9:59]
daily
as an e lectrical inspector
[10:00]
from ocean reef to stock
[10:03]
island.
Service.
[10:25]
service.
>> thank you.
[applause].
[10:36]
[applause].
>> thank you so m uch.
[10:39]
>> congratulations, thank you
for your service.
[10:41]
>> okay, mayor, your next
item
[10:45]
is on p age 3, item b-2,
[10:52]
presentation of years o f
service award for 1 5 years of
[10:57]
service t o lisa tennyson,
director of legislative
affairs.
[11:00]
>> I'm holding the mic. And
[11:01]
your pin too and I've been
to
[11:03]
to
tell you, this is just an hon
[11:07]
new york city I knew you when
[11:09]
I was with the city of
marathon and always admired
[11:13]
your work, then when I move
[11:14]
today the c ounty and have had
[11:14]
this opportunity to work with
all
[11:18]
all
the information you h ave and
[11:22]
then when I joined the small
county coalition and saw the
[11:26]
utmost respect that you have
with the small county
[11:28]
coalition and w ith the
florida
[11:29]
association of counties a nd
how m uch the entire state
[11:34]
relies on y ou and your
expertise, I'm just so
[11:37]
honored
that you're here in our
county
[11:40]
and that you help us with our
[11:43]
legislative decisions, so
thank you and this is an
[11:47]
honor
for m e.
[11:49]
>> that's so nice, thank you
so much.
[11:53]
er
>> and, lease -- lisa, bhiel
[11:55]
you're being pinned there,
literally I hope, l et me say
[11:59]
literally I hope, l et me say
[12:01]
I'm shocked I t's only 15
years, it s eems like a
[12:06]
lifetime.
>> [laughter].
Er
[12:08]
>> I concur.
>> I want to say thank you,
[12:13]
it's been a pleasure and a
[12:15]
honor, a pleasure most of t he
[12:16]
time and an honor, I love
serve thing county and the
[12:20]
board and I have so much
well
[12:21]
well
and roman of course, it's
[12:24]
great w orking for him, he's
[12:28]
been an awesome mentor and he
[12:34]
really knows his stuff and
[13:04]
that's why I know my stuff,
[applause].
[13:09]
[applause].
>> alright.
>> okay, before we move on,
[13:14]
holly has asked f or a moment,
so you have a m oment.
[13:18]
>> yes, j ust really fast,
thank y ou, mr. Mayor, I
[13:22]
wanted
to recognize the joy group,
[13:25]
the just ogler youth, they
were responsible for our
[13:30]
pre-meeting e ntertainment,
their y aouk lay lee group was
[13:32]
amazing, it's wonderful t o
[13:34]
walk into w ork and have that
you all so much.
[13:40]
you all so much.
>> yeah, great job.
[13:44]
>> then I want to recognize
representing us in
[13:47]
representing us in
tallahassee
[13:50]
at boy's state, take note of
probably recommend us, so
[13:55]
probably recommend us, so
touch.
[13:55]
touch.
Being h ere.
[13:58]
being h ere.
[applause].
>> okay.
[14:02]
commissioner coldiron is
going
to be reading bulk.
[14:08]
>> I just can't tell you ho
[14:11]
excited I a m about this, bulk
[14:12]
items are normally of a
routine nature and have b een
[14:15]
reyou viewed by each
commissioner prior to meet, I
[14:18]
will read the agenda item
number of those items
[14:22]
proposed
to be p assed in bulk, if a
[14:24]
commissioner, staff m ember or
any member of the public
[14:27]
wishes that item to b e with
[14:27]
h el, please indicate at the
it
[14:30]
it
[14:34]
will be held aside.
[14:46]
I mrao uf the following
be approved in bulk.
[14:56]
be approved in bulk.
C-1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, c7,
[15:08]
10, 11 , 12, c13 --
[15:15]
>> homed.
[15:25]
er
[15:36]
>> c14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19,
[15:40]
20, 21, d1, we're going to
[15:43]
hold f1, bulk f2, 3, 4,,
[15:43]
moving on to page 8, I,
holding?
[15:47]
holding?
>> j2, hold, j3d hold 2 or
[15:51]
>> j2, hold, j3d hold 2 or
>> 3.
[15:55]
>> go back to I, you ou
me.
[15:59]
>> you want m e to go to I
again?
[16:03]
>> yeah.
>> okay, i1, 2, 3, 4.
[16:06]
>> thank you.
I'll start j over again.
[16:10]
I'll start j over again.
J1 --
[16:14]
>> you're h olding.
[16:17]
>> j2, j3 --
[16:23]
>> hold.
>> h old.
[16:34]
>> h old.
[16:47]
j4, j5, , j6.
[16:59]
>> l1,, next page, m-1, n1,
[17:02]
2,
o7, 8 , 9, 10, 11, 12, 13,
[17:12]
o7, 8 , 9, 10, 11, 12, 13,
[17:20]
o14,
>> hold 1 .
[17:28]
>> hold 1 .
P2, 3 , 4, 5, 6, 7, --
[17:45]
p2, 3 , 4, 5, 6, 7, --
>> hold 7 .
[17:54]
>> 8, 9, 10,, p11, 12.
[18:07]
s1, 2 - -
>> you're r ight.
[18:14]
>> you're r ight.
>> 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9
[18:19]
and that is I t.
>> and do we have a motio?
[18:25]
>> so moved.
>> second.
[18:27]
>> thank you, the agenda is
call the first item, please.
[18:31]
call the first item, please.
Er
[18:35]
>> yes, sir, let's go to
page
[18:39]
5 because we have a couple of
approximate, item c13,
[18:43]
approximate, item c13,
approval of of a contract
[18:44]
between monroe county b oard
of
[18:46]
county commissioners, monroe
county social s ervices and
[18:49]
the
coordinator guidance care
[18:51]
coordinator guidance care
center inc. For the contract
[18:56]
period of july 1, 2022 to
june
[18:59]
30, 2023.
This is a a non-monetary
[19:01]
partnership c ollaboration
contract required by the
state
[19:05]
of florida commissioned f or
the transportation
disadvantaged.
[19:09]
>> call the roll, p lease.
>> move to approve.
[19:13]
>> move to approve.
>> second.
>> commissioner cates?
[19:18]
>> yes.
>> commissioner coldiron?
>> yes.
[19:20]
>> commissioner r aschein?
>> yes.
>> commissioner scholl?
[19:24]
>> yes.
>> abstaining with a conflict.
[19:28]
>> abstaining with a conflict.
Er
[19:32]
>> okay, do w e want to go
[19:34]
ahead and g o too the 9:15 so
in on t he zoom?
[19:36]
in on t he zoom?
.
Er we can do that.
[19:40]
>> that will be on page 6,
amended a nd restated
[19:44]
amended a nd restated
interlocal agreement between
[19:46]
monroe county land authority
and t he monroe county board
[19:48]
of
county commissioners
regarding
[19:50]
the administration of l and
acquisition and management
programs.
[19:56]
>> do we have a m otion?
>> so m oved.
[20:00]
>> I thought christine wanted
to speak about it.
[20:03]
>> I do.
Good morning.
[20:08]
>> you are coming in by z
room for you.
[20:12]
room for you.
>> sorry about that.
[20:15]
good morning.
>> for f1 this morning, I
[20:20]
need
make it w ith a change and the
[20:26]
make it w ith a change and the
[20:29]
change we n eed to make is on
[20:33]
page 2 under programs, roman
[20:35]
numeral I and w e need to
program w as established by
[20:45]
program w as established by
bocc resolutions 175-2018 and
[20:49]
amended b y bocc resolutions
438-2018 and 063-2020 please.
[20:53]
we have amended those and
those a re no longer
[20:57]
applicable.
>> okay, do we have a motion
[20:59]
for approval with those
changes?
[21:02]
>> mayor, I amend my motion
with whatever christine said.
[21:07]
with whatever christine said.
So moved.
[21:07]
>> I kind of thought it mi
er
[21:12]
er
>> and I'm second it.
[21:15]
>> we h ave a second.
>> thank you.
[21:19]
>> did we g et a second, I'm
sorry?
[21:23]
>> yes, s ir, we did.
>> we did, fine.
[21:27]
okay, any o pposition?
If not, the motion stands
[21:35]
approved.
One staff r eport before the
[21:42]
one staff r eport before the
[21:45]
9:25, I d on't see mr. Ki
airports, a irports director
[21:49]
airports, a irports director
mr. Stickland, department
[22:07]
update.
>> good morning, jethon's
[22:10]
going to pull something up
real quick.
[22:14]
>> so, g oods morning, mayor,
good morning, commission,
[22:16]
this
is just one of those updates
[22:19]
from a department and this
will be on key west
[22:22]
international airport and
later this year, aisle bring
[22:24]
a
xhaoet update on marathon
[22:27]
airport as well, as we go
through t he presentation,
[22:32]
please feel free to ask any
questions that you might
[22:35]
have,
so there we g o, so the
[22:36]
overall
management and operations and
[22:37]
development, this gives y ou
an
[22:39]
overview of how t he
management
[22:42]
team there stays educated --
>> can we get that either o
[22:45]
the t elevisions or we're
to have to turn around or
[22:54]
to have to turn around or
[22:58]
come
>> there we g o.
[23:03]
>> there we g o.
The faa, the u.s. Department
[23:08]
the faa, the u.s. Department
of homeland s ecurity, working
[23:11]
with finance and
administration items,
[23:13]
planning, d esign and
construction, lighting and
[23:16]
maintenance a nd airfield
operations and following the
[23:19]
best practices from these
entities as w e continue to
[23:23]
develop your management t eam
with the airport, as far as
[23:27]
operationally, we do the
airport facilities
maintenance
[23:30]
which is all the upgrades of
airfield through the faa
[23:35]
airfield through the faa
such, airport operations is
[23:37]
such, airport operations is
safety of m ovement of the
[23:42]
safety of m ovement of the
aircraft, airfield security,
[23:47]
why w ould life management,
[23:49]
airfield inspections, fueling
the faa g uidance, we maintain
[23:55]
the faa g uidance, we maintain
related to all the aircraft,
[24:00]
related to all the aircraft,
airfield management I s safety
[24:03]
areas, pavement m aintenance,
new c onstruction, perimeter
[24:06]
inspections, your regulatory
requirements, we are probably
[24:09]
your most regulated overall
department in the county.
[24:11]
I think t he staff there at
[24:13]
key
west does a n out stampeder
job
[24:18]
of following all those reck
[24:19]
-- regulations we have to d o,
[24:21]
we go through a n umber of
[24:24]
different reviews every year
with these agencies, all to
[24:29]
earn the license and
certifications that w e learn.
[24:32]
since my employment with the
county and running the key
[24:39]
west airport there, we have
[24:42]
shifted a ll of the training
all t he aarf personnel which
[24:48]
all t he aarf personnel which
fire fighting personnel, as
[24:54]
fire fighting personnel, as
we all know, structure fire
[24:59]
training is different than
arff training, arff train
[25:03]
ising t o save people's lives
on the aircraft which is
[25:07]
different t han the training
tla the n ormal firefighters
[25:10]
that would go through with
structural training kls to
[25:12]
protect the s tructure and
save
[25:13]
lives, it's a different
program
[25:18]
program
does an o utstanding job of
[25:22]
training our fine men and
young w omen that go through
[25:27]
the p rogram at dfw and they
[25:28]
bring that talent b ack to key
[25:30]
west for the overall safety
for a ll the passengers that
[25:32]
travel through and it I s
quite
[25:34]
the e xtensive program we've
been running them through,
[25:37]
tla's been for about three
years n ow.
[25:40]
her's w hat we're trying to
earn, t he annual
[25:43]
certification
and inspection, so we get a
[25:46]
license f rom the state to
continue operating the
[25:49]
airfield in the airport and
we
[25:51]
also get certification from
the f aa every year through
[25:54]
all
the inspections they do w hich
[25:56]
is largely all of my great
[25:57]
staff back there at the
all
[26:01]
all
of your administrative type
[26:02]
things and planning and
design
[26:05]
things, I d o not run the
and t here's a phenomenal
[26:09]
and t here's a phenomenal
amount of p eople that are
[26:13]
there doing t hat for you all
on a day-to-day point.
[26:18]
some of t he key points in the
[26:19]
annual inspection are r elated
to the emas, the lighting,
[26:22]
the
markings, the arff, it's a
lot
[26:25]
of stuff that we do, ramp
control operations, this is
[26:29]
one of the biggest changes
that happened, I know the
[26:34]
mayor and I have many times
[26:35]
talked about this b ecause we
everywhere the year after
[26:38]
everywhere the year after
covid, there were s o many
[26:42]
planes on the ground, the
communication b reakdowns were
[26:45]
plentiful, we took over ramp
control so that the staff
[26:48]
that
you have there running
[26:51]
day-to-day are talking
directly to the pilots and
[26:54]
is smoothed everything out,
everything is running nicely
[26:57]
now, we don't h ave the
significant delays we w ere
[27:01]
having so I t is a big change
[27:04]
but it's working well, the
[27:06]
other change that I w anted to
[27:08]
comment on, you k now we all
[27:09]
changed over tsa and the tsa
federalized facility that I s
[27:13]
federalized facility that I s
working o ut very well,
[27:16]
everything is running very
smoothly and it was the right
[27:19]
change to d o.
Just a little bit of an
[27:23]
update
on some o f the eyw projects
[27:27]
other than concourse a, the
noise insulation program,
[27:30]
this
[27:33]
phase was c ompleted october
2021, 4 .9 million dollars, it
[27:39]
2021, 4 .9 million dollars, it
phase h ere, 5.4 million, the
[27:44]
phase h ere, 5.4 million, the
estimated completion date,
[27:45]
september of 2022, once
again,
[27:47]
100% faa funded for the noise
[27:50]
program, both of those got
100% funding because of t he
[27:55]
events that c ame out of covid
[27:56]
is why they were 100% funded.
Million, the facilities
[28:02]
million, the facilities
maintenance deck that w e put
[28:06]
in, I t's 14 feet above flood
level, 200 per mile wind
[28:09]
code,
it gives us a p lace to store
[28:11]
all o f the maintenance
equipment that runs key west
[28:14]
airport if you're sitting
there wondering where a ll
[28:15]
that
equipment was before, it was
[28:18]
down in t he mud and the
significant rain events a nd
[28:22]
significant rain events a nd
those things and it was
[28:24]
getting rusted and broken all
[28:26]
the t ime and you f now we
store that quim.
[28:30]
store that quim.
Customs a nd border
protection,
[28:34]
we've g one through the
renovations of this with the
[28:39]
u.s. Department of homeland
security and all their
[28:45]
standards, phase 3 completed
june of 2 022 at 4.7 million
[28:50]
and will begin phase 4 in the
[28:51]
fall and winter of this yea.
Fuel farm r oadway, those of
[28:55]
you that have b een out there
[28:56]
recently, y ou have seen them
working to get this project
[29:01]
done, t otal project cost,
about 3.8 m illion with an
[29:05]
estimated completion in
september o f 2022.
[29:09]
left over o verflow parking,
this was on the airfield with
[29:14]
6.9 m illion with an estimated
completion of april, 2023.
[29:16]
taxi way alpha, we heard
about
[29:18]
this project exhaustively
because it's tied o f what
[29:22]
we're trying to d o with the
missile s tressing, that's
[29:27]
about a 9 million dollar
program w ith an estimation o
[29:31]
october, 2023, and your
overall g rant funding is 41
[29:36]
million d ollars of your
investment back into your
[29:41]
airport a nd has all been over
2022, n ot including concourse
[29:44]
2022, n ot including concourse
a.
>> that's h uge.
[29:49]
>> that's I t, other than -- I
[29:52]
forkt, there's your t eam of
people that are constantly
[29:55]
working a t the airport every
day w hich is why you
[29:57]
typically
only see me at the board
[29:59]
meetings and not any of the
all
[30:01]
all
very much a nd if you've got
[30:05]
any questions, please let me
know.
>> questions?
[30:10]
>> mr. Mayor, I don't have a
thank r ichard publicly here
[30:15]
thank r ichard publicly here
and his team did a
[30:16]
professional job getting me
up
[30:18]
to speed on concourse a and
there, richard, I appreciate
[30:22]
there, richard, I appreciate
it, that was very well done
[30:24]
and you h ave a great team
[30:25]
over
>> thank you.
[30:30]
>> thank you.
>> a lot of things happening.
[30:35]
and we thank you for that
and w e'll get there.
[30:39]
and w e'll get there.
>> we will and I'll be back
[30:42]
with an update later on the
year.
[30:43]
>> thank you.
>> next I tem.
[30:47]
>> your next item is your
land
authority.
[30:52]
>> okay.
Let me find the right page,
[30:57]
what page?
>> that I s -- that starts o
[31:02]
page 6.
>> okay.
Well, w e will adjourn the
[31:05]
meeting o f the monroe county
board of county commissioners
[31:13]
and c onvene the meeting of
the
[31:16]
land authority governing
board.
>> commissioner cates?
[31:19]
>> here.
>> commissioner c oldiron?
>> here.
[31:22]
>> commissioner raschein?
>> here.
>> commissioner scholl?
[31:27]
>> here.
>> chairman r ice?
>> present.
[31:36]
>> thank you, dina.
>> good morning, agenda item
[31:40]
g1 is a pproval of the minutes
[31:41]
for t he may 18, 2022 meeting.
>> do w e have a motion?
[31:44]
>> move to approve.
>> second.
[31:46]
>> we have a motion and a
the I tem is approved.
[31:51]
the I tem is approved.
>> g2, there's no need for a
[31:55]
motion but it's the monroe
executive d irector monthly
[31:59]
executive d irector monthly
report for may 2022 through
[32:04]
april 30, 2 022.
>> g3 --
[32:06]
>> wait a minute, wait a
minute.
[32:10]
I just wanted to make a
read
[32:13]
read
[32:16]
your report and I wanted to
[32:19]
share with everyone an item
that I pulled out of it.
[32:24]
there's a cumulative total in
there w hen this report is p
[32:27]
together which reflects how
much money we have spent
[32:30]
really over the history of
the
[32:34]
entire program I presume on
various items I mportant to
[32:39]
monroe county, and I did
happen to n otice that since
[32:42]
the beginning and w hen was
[32:46]
the
>> 1988 I s the beginning of
[32:53]
>> 1988 I s the beginning of
the r eporting.
[32:58]
>> okay, 1988, the land
authority using very sources
[33:07]
of funding and one tof major
[33:10]
sources of funding for that
[33:12]
land purchasing is one-half
penny o f our bed tax, it has
[33:17]
purchased a total of 50
million d ollars worth of land
[33:19]
for a ffordable housing, so,
we
[33:23]
all know how important that
[33:26]
is
to us, we all know that we'r
[33:31]
behind the 8 ball on it, but
huge contribution t owards the
[33:35]
huge contribution t owards the
development o f affordable
housing.
[33:37]
we tend to make that
available
[33:41]
to various developers because
affordable housing or not, if
[33:46]
affordable housing or not, if
financial h elp on a project,
[33:50]
financial h elp on a project,
cost
[33:54]
cost
that allows y ou to rent it
[33:58]
within the affordable range,
so, christine and [ inaudible]
[34:01]
and everyone, d ina, everyone
who's had anything to d o with
[34:05]
that, I t hink we all owe you
a
[34:08]
big t hanks.
>> mr. Mayor, and if we
[34:11]
add t hat the bed tax money,
>> yes.
[34:12]
>> yes.
Er
[34:16]
>> a nd that's tdc and I'm
not
[34:21]
tdc spokesperson but I know
when everyone complains about
[34:25]
how b usy our tourism is, it's
[34:28]
-- and they say what do y
[34:33]
all do with that tdc money,
[34:36]
it's nice to be a ble to say
[34:38]
here's one tof things that's
[34:39]
done with the tdc funds, it'
shaking his h ead.
[34:42]
shaking his h ead.
>> it's a different tax than
[34:45]
the tdc tax b ut it is imposed
the same way.
[34:47]
>> okay.
>> it I s a bed tax.
[34:49]
>> it I s a bed tax.
.
[34:53]
inger it is p aid by tourists
so that is 100% accurate.
[34:56]
>> okay, thank you for the
[34:58]
education.
>> well, thank you for that
comment.
[35:04]
christine, proceed.
>> okay, so on g3, aisle r
[35:10]
that and then I do need to
[35:13]
make the same change that we
of the second amended and
[35:16]
of the second amended and
restated interlocal agreement
[35:18]
between m onroe county land
authority and t he monroe
[35:21]
county board of county
commissioners regarding t he
[35:25]
administration of l and
acquisition a nd management
[35:27]
programs.
And the change that w e need
to
[35:33]
make is on page 2 of the
[35:38]
agreement u nder programs,
roman numeral I, and we need
[35:48]
to eliminate the sentence the
program w as established by
[35:53]
bocc resolution 175-2018 and
amended b y bocc resolutions
[35:56]
438-2018 and 063-2020.
>> do we have a motion with
[35:59]
those a mendments?
>> so m oved, mr. Mayor, with
[36:05]
what christine said.
>> second.
>> any opposition?
[36:10]
the I tem is approved.
>> next item?
[36:16]
>> item g4 is approval to add
[36:19]
block 1 , and lots 8 and 9,
[36:20]
amended plat of the ladies
as potential affordable
[36:24]
as potential affordable
housing s ites and to amend
[36:28]
the
affordable housing
eligibility
[36:30]
criteria in t he acquisition
environmentally
[36:37]
environmentally
[36:41]
sensitive land and reference
601.1.11.
[36:48]
601.1.11.
This is n eeded for us to
[36:51]
purchase the parcels in item
for
[36:54]
for
affordable housing, the other
[36:57]
part of t hat parcel is
conservation.
[37:03]
>> move the approve.
[37:08]
>> second.
G4 is a pproved.
[37:14]
g4 is a pproved.
>> g5 I s an approval of a
[37:19]
contract to purchase block 1,
[37:20]
lots 8 and 9, amended plat o
[37:24]
ladies acre, little torch key
for affordable housing and
[37:29]
the
adjoining a k raj parcel,
[37:30]
parcel I.d.00113230 for
conservation, little torch
key
[37:33]
near mile marker 28.
>> a motion?
[37:39]
>> move to approve.
>> any objections?
[37:45]
>> any objections?
Have any objection to taking
[37:50]
have any objection to taking
[37:54]
items 6-9 t ogether?
I h ear no objection, so why
[37:58]
don't we do t hat.
>> okay, I'll read them all
[38:07]
>> g6, approval of a contract
for conservation-parcel o o f
[38:12]
for conservation-parcel o o f
an unrecorded plat, parcel
[38:15]
I.d. Number 00113320-001500,
little torch key near mile
[38:20]
marker 28, g7, approval of a
property for
[38:23]
property for
conservation-block 1, l ot 25,
[38:27]
largo city, k ey largo near
mile marker 1 04.
[38:32]
g8, approval of a contract to
[38:36]
purchase property within the
conservation-block 2, lot 14,
[38:40]
conservation-block 2, lot 14,
block 10, l ots 6 and 7, block
[38:45]
13, l ots 1-6, 12 and 13,
crains subdivision, grassy
[38:50]
key
near mile marker 58.
[38:53]
g9, approval of a contract to
conservation-block 2, l ots
[38:57]
conservation-block 2, l ots
10,
[39:00]
11, 1 2, 14 and 15, ocean
mile
[39:04]
mile
marker 30.
[39:06]
>> do we have a motion for
approval of 6 -9?
[39:13]
>> so m oved.
>> second.
[39:19]
>> we h ave a motion and a
second, any o bjections?
[39:23]
item 6-9 are approved.
By the way, that represents a
[39:27]
lot of land , thanks for all
the hard work.
[39:32]
>> yes.
And a l ot of land and some o
[39:36]
which will be sold to the
state in the near future.
[39:40]
like the next one, g10,
approving the o ption
[39:41]
approving the o ption
[39:45]
agreement
pre-acquired florida forever
[39:52]
pre-acquired florida forever
land described by metes and
[39:56]
bounds, parcel I.d. Number
00108530-000100 on no name
[39:59]
key
to the board of trustees of
[40:01]
the I nternal improvement
trust
fund, authorizing t he
[40:03]
chairman
to execute same and
[40:08]
authorizing the chairman to
execute the d eed and
[40:12]
associated closing documents.
>> do w e have a motion?
[40:16]
>> move to approve.
>> second.
>> any objections?
[40:24]
item 10 is approved.
>> item g 11, approval of a
[40:29]
resolution committing a p
additional 571 thousand 330
[40:31]
dollars I n construction
funding t o the monroe county
[40:34]
housing authority for t he
lower k eys scattered sites
[40:38]
affordable housing
development.
>> do we have a motion?
[40:43]
>> move to approve.
>> second.
[40:46]
>> we have a motion and a
second, h earing no
[40:50]
objections,
g11 is approved, and I would
[40:53]
like to b ack up a couple of
[40:55]
items and e xplain something
that christine mentioned and
[40:59]
explain it a little more in
public needs to understand
[41:04]
public needs to understand
that aspect.
[41:06]
christine mentioned that some
of the land that we just
[41:10]
acquired will be sold t o the
[41:13]
state.
The s tate has certain chunks
[41:17]
of land down here that they
[41:18]
have in w hat they call the
[41:19]
florida forever program,
correct me at any point when
[41:23]
I
deviate f rom the truth,
christine.
[41:26]
generally they've had 5
million dollars a y ear to
[41:31]
purchase land in those
designated areas.
[41:34]
as a general rule, they have
[41:36]
not been able t o do that.
Because
[41:39]
because
inside of monroe county to
[41:43]
inside of monroe county to
them, close t hem and the
[41:48]
them, close t hem and the
usual
[41:55]
routine that anyone goes
through purchasing land, so
[42:00]
they have n ot spent that 5
christine's come on board
[42:02]
christine's come on board
the present j ob, she has with
[42:08]
the present j ob, she has with
relationship with the state
[42:13]
relationship with the state
and p roposed that we purchase
[42:16]
the l and, then they buy it
from us.
[42:19]
they have a problem
purchasing
[42:23]
land and if I understand it
correctly, that problem is
[42:29]
that by s tatute, they can
only
[42:33]
pay t he appraised price, not
if I'm right, christine,
[42:37]
thank
you, okay, frequently we find
[42:42]
the seller won't sell it for
the a ppraised price because
[42:47]
it
runs behind market value, so
[42:49]
on the average, we pay, what,
sometimes?
[42:50]
sometimes?
>> yes.
>> it varies with the land
[42:55]
and
with the seller, but let's
say
[43:06]
it's 20% over the price the
[43:09]
state can pay, we b uy the
[43:11]
land, we then turn around,
[43:11]
sell it t o the state or what
[43:13]
they can pay for it which is
that
[43:17]
that
money, put it back into our
[43:21]
acquisition f und to buy more
a
[43:24]
a
result of that, I'm pretty
[43:27]
sure at the e nd of the year,
5
[43:30]
5
property in monroe county if
[43:35]
property in monroe county if
christine has anything to d o
[43:40]
with it.
Did I miss anything importan
there, christine?
[43:43]
>> no, that's a great smran
at
[43:47]
at
dep are r eally I think
excited
[43:51]
about the way t his is
unrolling.
[43:53]
I hope by the e nd of this
million,
[43:56]
million,
[43:57]
but I know by the end of n
[44:01]
year, we will.
>> good, thank you very m uch.
[44:05]
yeah, I think that is a ver
[44:07]
innovative approach to that
problem a nd I think you
[44:10]
should
be commended along with your
[44:13]
staff f or making that happen.
Any other business for the
[44:17]
land authority?
>> mr. Mayor?
>> yes?
[44:18]
>> if I might, I want to
thank
[44:22]
both christine and emily for
coming and giving the
[44:26]
presentation to t he middle
keys realtors, just l ike you
[44:31]
did with holly in the upper
[44:34]
keys, you a ll did a fantastic
[44:36]
job and, again, the answers
and questions, it was very
[44:39]
enlightening to see h ow much
information needed to be
[44:43]
explained, so thank y ou for
that, excellent j ob.
[44:47]
>> thank you.
>> okay.
Motion to a djourn?
[44:51]
>> move to adjourn.
>> okay.
[44:54]
I will adjourn the meeting of
the l and authority governing
[44:58]
board and r econvene the
meeting of the monroe county
[45:01]
board o f county commissioners.
Can't lower t his.
[45:05]
can't lower t his.
The next item is going to be
[45:09]
on page 8, item h1, the board
of governors.
[45:11]
>> and now we will adjourn
the
[45:14]
meeting of the monroe county
[45:16]
board o f county commissioners
[45:19]
and c onvene the meeting of
[45:22]
the
board of governors.
[45:29]
board of governors.
Thank you, gentlemen, for
[45:34]
driving up here for what will
probably be not a terribly
[45:39]
long meeting.
Mr. M ayor, it's yours.
>> thank you.
[45:42]
ma'am, do you want to c all
the
[45:45]
roll, please.
>> yes, sir, commissioner
cates?
[45:46]
>> here.
>> commissioner raschein?
>> here.
[45:48]
>> mayor rice?
>> here.
>> councilman lewis?
[45:52]
>> here.
>> mayor hailey.
Er
[45:53]
>> pam, I believe we h ave
one
[45:56]
item.
>> that's c orrect, it's on
[46:00]
page 8, item h1, board of
governor approval to execute
[46:05]
an agreement with r. T.r.
Provide collection services
[46:07]
provide collection services
for u npaid amounts relating
[46:10]
from fire rescue emergency
medical a ir and ground
[46:14]
transportation services.
[46:16]
>> I want to make one com
good contract b ecause it
[46:22]
good contract b ecause it
reduces o ur expense from 25%
[46:26]
to roughly 12% and they're
piggybacking on t he other
[46:30]
contract, so I think this wa
together.
[46:31]
together.
>> thank you, with that,
aisle
[46:34]
make a motion for a pproval.
>> I second.
[46:38]
>> pam, roll call, please.
>> yes, sir, commissioner
[46:40]
cates?
>> yes.
>> commissioner raschein?
[46:42]
>> yes.
>> mayor rice?
>> yes.
[46:44]
>> councilor m n lewis?
>> yes.
>> mayor hailey?
[46:49]
>> yes.
>> the item is approved.
[46:51]
thank you very much.
The only motion I g et to make
[46:56]
the only motion I g et to make
all d ay.
[47:01]
thank you f or being here.
.
[47:05]
er so, the board of governors
[47:08]
is adjourned.
>> and we will reconvene the
[47:12]
meeting of the monroe county
board o f county commissioners.
[47:15]
>> yes, s ir, your next item
is
[47:18]
on page 6, we'll go back
staff r eport, item e1,
[47:24]
administrative director ed
cocoa nis u pdate on new
[47:28]
permitting software.
>> yay, l ooking forward to
this.
[47:32]
>> good morning, everyone,
this should b e fairly quick.
[47:37]
again, for anybody in t he
switch tog a new electronic
[47:42]
switch tog a new electronic
permitting system, our
[47:43]
current
the end o f next year, most of
[47:48]
the end o f next year, most of
[47:51]
the s upport on it will ceas
electronic permitting system,
[47:55]
electronic permitting system,
remember, w hen we go live
[48:00]
remember, w hen we go live
[48:02]
which we're h oping is going
[48:05]
to be mid july, anyone going
[48:06]
forward from that point who
be electronic, if y ou have
[48:10]
be electronic, if y ou have
submitted p rior to that on
[48:13]
paper, obviously we're going
let y ou continue on those on
[48:18]
paper, I want to make sure
everyone's aware of that.
[48:22]
we have a ccomplished a lot
[48:21]
since last month, a lot of
most
[48:26]
most
people aren't really going to
[48:29]
care about, t hey want -- what
[48:31]
we keep hear ising when it's
[48:36]
it going to happen, so again
[48:39]
we are projecting mid t o late
[48:40]
july the -- what we're really
company and [ inaudible] who
[48:42]
company and [ inaudible] who
is
[48:45]
-- the money people for the
credit cards, they're w orking
[48:50]
and they're o n the last steps
contract signed because w hat
[48:54]
contract signed because w hat
we want to do is wait to
[48:59]
live until not only can you
submit everything o nline you
[49:00]
can, you can pay online so
you
[49:02]
don't have to come into the
[49:06]
office to p ay.
That we t hink is kind of out
[49:15]
that we t hink is kind of out
[49:17]
of our hands, staff's been
working very hard , lots and
[49:22]
lots of m eetings.
We've f inished with
contractor
[49:23]
licensing instead o f paper,
they are already in
[49:26]
production
so we h ave everything
[49:28]
converted o ver, so that the
contractor licensing should
[49:31]
be
much easier for the
[49:34]
contractors to not only
apply,
[49:39]
renew, check their status,
they'll be able to do t hat
[49:44]
through t he system, brian
davidson, our j is person in
[49:47]
planning has successfully
automated t he property record
[49:48]
card information so t hat
we're
[49:51]
going to be able to g et that
[49:54]
in our system and so we'll
have -- q uestion ear
[49:57]
projecting to get t hose on a
[49:57]
weekly basis as w ell as the
be
[50:01]
be
able to tell you your addre
[50:05]
or whatever by punching that
basted
[50:06]
basted
so if you c an find your
[50:11]
property on a map, you can do
[50:14]
all that too and all that's
[50:14]
going t o be linked together.
Wez h ave just deployed our
[50:18]
mark-up software which we
haven't h ad in the past and
[50:21]
what that's going to do is
[50:21]
allow t he staff to not only
corrections
[50:25]
corrections
are n eeded but also that's
[50:30]
going - - that should help the
contractors, architects,
[50:34]
engineers t o more easily see
what is w rong so that
[50:38]
hopefully one s et of
corrections, hopefully that
[50:41]
will be I t.
It is the industry standard,
[50:43]
there's other places nr t he
it's
[50:46]
it's
by far the industry standard,
[50:48]
it's called blue beam, I
[50:52]
would
like to t hank joe tut l and
[50:56]
his team for getting that
deploy and had ray ortiz in
[51:00]
business and david reems in
[51:02]
planning with t heir
get thing s taff to learn how
[51:10]
get thing s taff to learn how
to use it.
[51:14]
again, the testing we have
[51:17]
tested end to end, we keep
[51:20]
thinking of tweaks to m ake it
the
[51:22]
the
public.
The m anager/supervisors
[51:25]
across
planning, building even code,
[51:28]
I want to thank rick, I wan
[51:31]
to thank emily and cynthia I
[51:32]
code, planning and code are
later
[51:36]
later
after permitting, but t hey
are
[51:42]
coming.
The permitting team, the
[51:45]
customer service team,
crystal,
[51:51]
crystal,
lisa, m ckayla, dawn, alba,
[51:55]
jan, sarah, nicole, cat,
angelica, dorli, chantel, l ee
[52:00]
ya n, they are all really
normal job, difficult enough,
[52:04]
normal job, difficult enough,
a lot o f the employees are
[52:09]
brand new, they had to learn
[52:12]
two systems at the same time,
[52:16]
not easy, n ot an easy job at
[52:19]
all, but they h ave done a ton
[52:20]
of work and I'm super proud
there's karen p leasant, she
[52:27]
there's karen p leasant, she
creates the reports, does the
[52:32]
automated e-mails, she has
[52:34]
been -- b asically we have tom
by
[52:38]
by
karen is like the person in
[52:41]
between that al and I, we
[52:43]
would not b e here if we
[52:44]
weren't for karen, we would
months behind, she's just
[52:47]
months behind, she's just
done
[52:54]
an incredible job, she
sometimes h as to be a drill
[52:59]
sergeant on u s but she has
course, on time.
[53:05]
course, on time.
I g et e-mails from her day,
[53:10]
night, saturday, sunday for
months and they're also
[53:13]
working o n -- we're working
on
[53:16]
getting o ur website, it's
still where w e were last
[53:19]
month
but again we're on the
[53:21]
technical s ide, we're maiming
a l ot ofz moves, you won't
[53:24]
see
it yet but we're trying to
[53:24]
get
more video and is more
[53:28]
instructions but wla's on
there n ow if you still
[53:31]
haven't
seen it t o register for an
[53:34]
account, to see h ow to apply
[53:36]
for a permit, it's easier no
[53:39]
and it's going to be easier
[53:40]
now than it I s on paper, I
thought a ny different,
[53:43]
thought a ny different,
paper's
[53:45]
a l ittle confusing, there's
stuff t hat's not intuitive,
[53:50]
when you go through this,
there's certain t hings if
[53:51]
there's an asterisk next to
it
[53:53]
on the application, you have
it will t ell you you're
[53:57]
it will t ell you you're
missing t his accidenter it's
[53:59]
really intuitive websinger
have e-mail accounts and the
[54:00]
phone if anybody has
problems,
[54:02]
we're thinking it's going to
public
[54:04]
public
and a lot faster, it's
[54:08]
concurrent reviews, you're
not
[54:11]
going to have certain
departments that get behind
[54:15]
from time t o time toe stall
it, everybody should be
[54:19]
getting behind it, it's our
building and permitting
[54:21]
department page, online
permitting services, it's
[54:25]
going to keep getting updated.
Again, we're hoping m id to
[54:30]
late july, really hinging on
one thing a nd that's the
[54:33]
credit cards, so if they can
[54:36]
get that resolved in the next
[54:39]
couple of w eeks which we're
[54:41]
still h opeful for, we should
concrete date p ret tie soon,
[54:46]
concrete date p ret tie soon,
we will publish it
[54:51]
everywhere,
we have t o monitor that
[54:55]
contract, karen's going t o be
working w ith jethon and
[54:57]
jovanni
, we're going to be working
[55:00]
with the contractors
hopefully
[55:03]
in a few weeks, we're just
finalizing that but we
[55:07]
believe
that should be a week or two,
[55:11]
we don't really expect any
issues, w hat we really expect
[55:16]
is for them to see how much
[55:17]
better it's g oing to be,
better and easier, then we
[55:21]
just have t o continue with
staff, just o ur last few
[55:23]
bits,
we train, we retrain, we look
[55:25]
at it and we try to get
the
[55:27]
the
box, the is there anything
you
[55:29]
would like that w e didn't
have
[55:31]
because our current s ystem
has
[55:33]
constraints of course, so t ry
[55:35]
to get that out of people's
[55:37]
heads, if you c ould have
[55:40]
anything you want a nd then we
[55:40]
ask if we c an get it, with
--
[55:43]
--
we could get, it was a really
[55:48]
we could get, it was a really
[55:52]
good choice, thank you, all,
choice and again planning fo
[55:55]
choice and again planning fo
some others because I h ave
[55:59]
heard I t, plan and code are
yet.
[56:01]
yet.
Does anybody have questions?
[56:04]
>> mr. Mayor, I have a
have
[56:08]
have
like an u nveiling ceremony
[56:10]
where we get to click the
star contractors?
[56:13]
star contractors?
Just wondering because this
is
[56:17]
a big deal?
>> yeah, I can definitely
[56:20]
work
with allen and we can see how
[56:23]
we can do that for the first
day.
[56:27]
>> one more thing t o add to
[56:28]
your list but it's big de
do
[56:31]
do
and w e'll do it, we'll do it,
[56:35]
that's a great idea.
Anything else?
[56:36]
>> excellent update, thank
you.
[56:39]
>> well, hopefully by your
next meet, we will already
[56:42]
live.
>> thank you, and t ell your
[56:43]
staff thank y ou, we
how hard they w ork.
[56:48]
how hard they w ork.
>> thank you.
[56:53]
>> and to a successful launch.
Okay, moving along.
[56:57]
>> yes, sir, same page on 8,
[56:59]
item j1, approval o a
moderate income affordable
[57:02]
moderate income affordable
pursuant to monroe county
[57:08]
pursuant to monroe county
code
[57:11]
section 1 38-24, subsection b,
subsection 1 for the
[57:14]
construction of two
affordable
[57:19]
housing d welling units on
point s et ta drive, lots 14
[57:24]
and 1 5, block 6, holiday
honesties, key largo, having
[57:27]
property identification
numbers 0 0530730 with no
split
[57:34]
out a nd 00530740 with no
split
[57:39]
out u ntil june 15, 2026.
The same time.
[57:42]
the same time.
>> that would b e on page 13,
[57:46]
item p7.
Approval of a resolution of
[57:47]
the h ardcover county
commissioners o f monroe
[57:50]
county, florida, approving a
could watt deed to donate two
[57:57]
lots for the construction of
two a ffordable housing
[58:01]
dwelling units to have a ta
keying.
[58:05]
keying.
>> okay, so these two items,
[58:09]
last month you discussed
donating two lots t o habitat
[58:12]
for humanity of the upper
keys
[58:17]
to build two affordable
housing u nits, so j1 would b
[58:22]
reservation of rogo u nits for
resolution approving donation
[58:24]
resolution approving donation
of those lots.
[58:28]
right now, p -- I'm sorry,
j1,
[58:32]
the rogo reservation, right
year reservation, they would
[58:37]
year reservation, they would
have to h ave their building
[58:42]
permits I ssued by june of
issued, then they take the
[58:46]
issued, then they take the
[58:49]
time they need to build it,
[58:51]
ice -- they would wait the
[58:51]
full four years to pull th
[58:54]
permits but that would be the
[58:56]
limit.
P7 right now is d rafted in a
[59:00]
way that after 10 y ears if
[59:03]
this z the units are not
[59:04]
completed, there would be on
option for the county to
[59:06]
exercise to t ake the land
back
[59:09]
and I believe the r eason for
discussion about that
[59:16]
discussion about that
timeframe s hould it be
[59:20]
shorter, is that contract? --
correct?
[59:22]
>> yes, I t's up to us if we
and
[59:25]
and
have five eyers b e the limit,
[59:28]
I f eel habitat with get it
[59:31]
done in five years and we ca
[59:33]
also if that five year marke
[59:33]
passes, we can sort of let I
more
[59:35]
more
>> the way I've drafted the
[59:38]
>> the way I've drafted the
[59:41]
language is it takes ain f
exercise the reverter clause,
[59:46]
exercise the reverter clause,
[59:47]
so, five year from now, if w
[59:49]
change it t o five and we g
[59:49]
the five plus a day, it woul
board
[59:53]
board
to do it but it would sen
[59:55]
the
message that we n eed it
built,
[59:58]
we don't just h old these for
until the tenth y ear.
[1:00:02]
until the tenth y ear.
>> I don't think lindsay
[1:00:04]
fast,
the director of h abitat is on
[1:00:07]
the line yet, she w as in a
but
[1:00:11]
but
I've been texting with her, I
[1:00:14]
do know the rogo reservation,
[1:00:17]
I asked h er is four years
be enough, they're breaking
[1:00:22]
be enough, they're breaking
ground on a project in
[1:00:26]
islamorada, t hey said it's an
18-24 month p roject, then
[1:00:30]
they'd move on to these lo
[1:00:30]
there are four, there a re two
[1:00:32]
they already have w ith the
reservation, so I agree, it
[1:00:36]
sound like they can probably
county has an option to
[1:00:39]
county has an option to
extend, t hat's also an
[1:00:41]
opportunity to give them more
[1:00:43]
time.
>> mr. Mayor, we needed these
[1:00:47]
homes yesterday so I say the
than
[1:00:49]
than
-- more than accomplishes
our
[1:00:50]
goal.
.
Er is that a motion?
[1:00:53]
>> so m oved.
>> second.
[1:00:56]
>> we h ave a motion and a
second, any further
[1:01:00]
discussion?
Any o bjections?
>> just to clarify, that
[1:01:02]
would
be the motion for p7 which is
[1:01:07]
the l and donation resolution,
and then we a lso need a
[1:01:10]
motion
for j1 which is the rogo
[1:01:11]
reservation with the four
year
[1:01:12]
time limit to pull the
permits.
[1:01:14]
>> thank you, c ould I have a
motion?
[1:01:17]
>> I'll move for that too.
As
[1:01:17]
as
[1:01:22]
well.
>> okay, any o bjections?
[1:01:27]
>> okay, any o bjections?
The I tem is approved.
[1:01:31]
>> your n ext item is on page
[1:01:33]
9, j3, approval of an
monroe county a nd the florida
[1:01:41]
monroe county a nd the florida
department of environmental
[1:01:45]
protections providing
protection mobile pump out
[1:01:53]
protection mobile pump out
services for monroe county,
[1:01:58]
contract number e s008.
Want today continue it to
[1:02:00]
want today continue it to
july, I w anted to explain
[1:02:03]
what
it was about and whether
[1:02:07]
you're on b oard with this
idea, a s you know, fdep to
[1:02:12]
over the pump out s frs
[1:02:13]
program keys wide last year,
[1:02:15]
so they have a contract with
the contract for this
[1:02:18]
the contract for this
upcoming
[1:02:21]
year, their y ear starts in
july, the m oney for this
[1:02:26]
project, the county asked for
300 thousand from t he state
[1:02:32]
and t hat was approved, we ha
[1:02:34]
to put a match in our budge
[1:02:36]
so we f rom our boating
improvement f unds did budget
[1:02:40]
approximately 300 t housand,
dep I s asking now, think ear
[1:02:43]
using the 300 t housand from
the s tate, they're asking if
[1:02:46]
we have m oney to cover the
[1:02:47]
other portion of the contract
directly in t heir own budget,
[1:02:52]
directly in t heir own budget,
[1:02:52]
so yes, w e have it and, yes,
[1:02:53]
we're supportive of them
continuing this c ontract, so
[1:02:59]
staff's recommending approval
to do t hat, the interlocal
[1:03:04]
agreement I s the mechanism to
get t hem the money, the
[1:03:07]
reason
I'm asking to hold it is
[1:03:09]
because this has only b een in
[1:03:11]
the works for a couple of
finished reviewing and
[1:03:14]
finished reviewing and
approving the document
[1:03:15]
itself,
so I need to continue I t to
[1:03:20]
july.
I do think they may also be
[1:03:23]
entertaining a request to
renegotiate the f ee or the
[1:03:27]
amount with the contractor
because of increased fuel
[1:03:33]
prices, w e do have enough
funds a vailable to cover a
[1:03:38]
higher amount if needed, so
that would be reflected in
[1:03:40]
the
july item when we come back,
[1:03:41]
I
thought that was important to
[1:03:44]
let dep know that the money
is
[1:03:47]
coming, c ontinue services,
>> I support that.
[1:03:53]
>> I support that.
>> okay, do we need a motion
[1:03:57]
to continue, someone want to
make that m otion, that wauz
[1:03:59]
motion from commissioner
er
[1:04:01]
er
>> I'll second it.
>> and a second.
[1:04:06]
>> thank you.
>> mayor, besides your
[1:04:12]
commissioners comments, w e're
done until 10:30 this morning
[1:04:16]
for t he time approximate.
Do you want t o have a
[1:04:21]
commissioners comments?
>> do w e have any comments
[1:04:23]
other than shock?
>> I would like the wait t
[1:04:27]
the end o f the meeting when
revenger's fatigued to give
[1:04:28]
my
>> it works for m e.
[1:04:31]
>> it works for m e.
>> mayor?
[1:04:34]
>> we p refer that too because
>> mayor?
[1:04:37]
>> mayor?
>> yes?
[1:04:38]
>> greg b urns if it's okay
give his report.
[1:04:43]
give his report.
>> absolutely.
>> yes.
[1:04:46]
>> greg?
>> it's a time approximate of
10:30.
[1:04:51]
>> we're going to go ahead
--
[1:04:54]
--
>> okay.
>> it doesn't work?
[1:04:58]
>> it won't go down.
>> good morning, mayor,
[1:05:03]
commissioners, this I tem
concerns the board's federal
[1:05:05]
legislative agenda for the
coming year, each year we do
[1:05:07]
a
federal agenda much like we
[1:05:11]
do
the state general a basing
[1:05:14]
similar to the state agenda,
we have perennial issues that
[1:05:17]
we have in there all the time
[1:05:19]
and we have new issues that
[1:05:21]
come -- that are added as a
[1:05:22]
result of new challenges, so
some of our standing
[1:05:25]
priorities include
reauthorization o f the
[1:05:26]
national flood insurance
on
[1:05:34]
on
keeping t hose premiums
[1:05:38]
affordable, f unding for pilt
and f quip, everglades
[1:05:42]
restating and t hose that
impact the florida bay and
[1:05:45]
the
estuary, coral reef
protection, veterans support,
[1:05:48]
those a re our perennial
issues, and t hen we have
[1:05:50]
issue
that is a re added, an example
[1:05:54]
of that is something that was
added after h urricane irma
[1:05:59]
when bh w e had all of that
[1:06:00]
marine debris, there really
isn't a ny automatic standing
[1:06:04]
federal program to help with
removing that marine debris,
[1:06:08]
so that's b ecome a focus for
[1:06:09]
us to t ry to identify funding
[1:06:12]
with some c ertainty, we got
[1:06:13]
funding but we need t o make
the next time.
[1:06:18]
the next time.
Then in 2 020 and 2021,
[1:06:22]
congress was focused on
response to t he pandemic and
[1:06:25]
we were m onitoring and
advocating for funds to b e
[1:06:27]
sent down for local
businesses
[1:06:29]
and workers a nd local
cares a ct in 2020 and then
[1:06:34]
cares a ct in 2020 and then
the
[1:06:38]
american rescue p lan in 2021,
today, greg's g oing to talk
[1:06:43]
today, greg's g oing to talk
authorization for the new
[1:06:44]
authorization for the new
completed
[1:06:47]
completed
with the army corps, the
[1:06:50]
climate r esilience project
and
earmarks, f ederal
[1:06:53]
appropriation requests, so
you'll see those in the
[1:06:55]
agenda
and greg's going to talk
about
[1:06:58]
those a little, greg burns is
our f ederal lobbyist, he's
[1:07:03]
been with t he county since
you
[1:07:03]
you
briefly, he's going to give
[1:07:07]
you a little presentation on
recent successes and some of
[1:07:13]
our I ssues and answer any of
your questions.
[1:07:18]
>> okay.
>> thank you very m uch.
Greg, w elcome.
[1:07:21]
>> good morning, thank you
for
[1:07:21]
the opportunity to be with
you
all t oday.
[1:07:25]
my name's greg burns with a
company called thorn run
[1:07:30]
partner I ns washington, dc,
pleased to be here and than
[1:07:33]
you, lisa, for the
introduction, I feel like she
[1:07:36]
basically said everything I'm
about to say so I apologize
[1:07:40]
for what I may repeat.
I s tart talking about your
[1:07:42]
I s tart talking about your
a
[1:07:44]
a
moment to r emind you that
[1:07:47]
thorn run partners is sort of
[1:07:50]
a whole t eam of people, it's
[1:07:52]
not just me even though I am
[1:07:55]
the person that you see, I
[1:07:57]
joined the firm in 2018 but
[1:07:59]
the f irm was founded in 2010
recently been named the
[1:08:02]
recently been named the
number
[1:08:03]
9 f irm in washington based on
total revenue, that's huge
[1:08:08]
growth for us, we started out
[1:08:09]
as two people, we're now ove
[1:08:11]
45 people, it's just been a
[1:08:13]
really great place to b e and
[1:08:16]
we're all very happy to be
[1:08:17]
working o n your behalf.
We do have about 225 clients
[1:08:22]
tat firm, a gain, we started
with two people probably 15
[1:08:24]
clients initially, so you can
imagine the growth, we do
[1:08:26]
have
a lot o f experience working
on
[1:08:30]
behalf of public entities, I
nror abasing california,
[1:08:32]
texas, other places like
that,
[1:08:37]
we have m ore than 45 clients
in that s pace.
[1:08:42]
focusing now on w hat we do on
[1:08:45]
behalf of monroe county, so,
work with respect to
[1:08:48]
work with respect to
appropriation a nd is earmark,
[1:08:50]
congress did just restore
sort
[1:08:52]
of the power of the purses
[1:08:55]
they call I t where they have
begun to both request and
[1:08:58]
fund
earmarks, they haven't done
[1:08:59]
that for about ten years so
[1:09:01]
this has been the first time
[1:09:03]
since I've been working on
behalf of m onroe county where
[1:09:05]
we've been able to request
funding.
[1:09:05]
wez worked with your team
last
[1:09:09]
year to identify the twin
lakes project is something we
[1:09:14]
all felt would be competitive
for funding, congressman
[1:09:18]
jimenez did m ake the request
on behalf of the county, he
[1:09:21]
did s ecure almost 5.5 million
dollars for the the project
[1:09:26]
which is a a full federal
all
[1:09:27]
all
thanks to the congressman, he
[1:09:29]
really did deliver for you
all
[1:09:32]
and it was a big deal becaus
to
[1:09:34]
to
fact that h e not only made
[1:09:38]
fact that h e not only made
[1:09:44]
yours one o f his priorities
but then went out a nd
[1:09:49]
successfully fouk for t hose
funds w as a big deal and w
[1:09:53]
appreciate his work on behalf
of the county.
[1:09:55]
florida k eys water quality
another
[1:09:58]
another
one, this is obviously the
[1:10:02]
year's long effort to impr
creating a central sewer
[1:10:06]
creating a central sewer
system throughout the keys,
[1:10:11]
and h e has continued theo
fight to secure funding for
[1:10:15]
fqip, he got a 6 million
[1:10:16]
dollar earmark in l ast year's
bill, that brings the project
[1:10:21]
to 78 million dollars over a
maybe.
[1:10:22]
maybe.
And then pilt I s payment in
[1:10:26]
lieu of taxes, this is the
program t hat helps reimburse
[1:10:30]
monroe county a nd other
counties across the kuntd ri
[1:10:33]
for all o f the federal land
and
[1:10:35]
and
so out of that pilt funding
[1:10:39]
that was funded by congress,
you all r eceived roughly
[1:10:41]
about
1.4 m illion dollars annually,
[1:10:44]
we always have to fight to
make sure t hat program is
[1:10:49]
funded adequately.
We also have two other things
[1:10:50]
which a re not directly
funding
[1:10:53]
related but are k nown as
authorizations so, the water
[1:10:56]
resources development act I s
the b ill congress passes
[1:10:59]
every
two y ears hopefully to give
[1:11:02]
the army corps of engineers
it does t hroughout the
[1:11:05]
it does t hroughout the
country
[1:11:07]
and we're going t o talk more
[1:11:09]
about h ow the corps does pl
that are important to the
[1:11:13]
that are important to the
authorization, a construction
[1:11:17]
authorization, a construction
authorization for t he monroe
[1:11:20]
county coastal storm risk
management study to basically
[1:11:22]
move forward so they can
begin
[1:11:24]
to spend money and build
things.
[1:11:27]
thus far, they've spent
studies, all of w hich are
[1:11:33]
studies, all of w hich are
[1:11:35]
valuable but we want them t
[1:11:36]
build t hings and improve your
storm resiliency here I n n
[1:11:41]
the
keys, b efore can get federal
[1:11:43]
fund ifinger construction,
the
water resources development
[1:11:45]
act I ncludes the
authorization
[1:11:46]
for your study to move to
construction in both the
[1:11:50]
house
and the s enate versions, we
[1:11:50]
hope that b ill will pass
this year, it's something
[1:11:57]
this year, it's something
we're w orking closely on, for
[1:12:02]
that, w e thank your entire
delegation mr. Rubio and
[1:12:06]
senator scott h ave been
helpful, there is a n
[1:12:09]
additional authorization for
in
[1:12:13]
in
potential federal f unding for
[1:12:17]
fquip, the region that
received 78 m illion dollars
[1:12:21]
in
dollar limit under current
[1:12:26]
dollar limit under current
federal law, this is to bump
[1:12:31]
the 100 m illion to 200
million
[1:12:32]
dollars, so another thing
that's important in that bill.
[1:12:37]
this is a n item that's older
up
[1:12:39]
up
because I h aven't been with
[1:12:43]
you all f or two years due to
[1:12:47]
the p andemic, this is related
to higgs beach, back in
[1:12:52]
fiscal
year 21 w hich seems lie e I
[1:12:54]
-- like a long time ago,
there
[1:12:57]
was I nterior appropriations
bill relating to higgs beach,
[1:13:01]
you can s ee the language on
[1:13:06]
the slide, but the issue is
bit
[1:13:12]
bit
cited -- con -- constrict
[1:13:16]
in its uses because it was
[1:13:19]
through the l and and water
conservation fund w hich is to
[1:13:23]
improve t he land so, why this
[1:13:24]
is important is because this
property as you know, you
[1:13:28]
have
worked for many years to
[1:13:30]
initiate a master plan,
redevelopment of higgs beach,
[1:13:34]
there's also been d iscussion
about transferring portions
[1:13:37]
of
the property to other users,
[1:13:41]
but all o f this is restricted
receive federal grant m oney
[1:13:44]
receive federal grant m oney
for it decades ago, this
[1:13:48]
language that we secured bac
in fy21 I s important because
[1:13:52]
it does t ry to say from
department of environmental
[1:13:54]
department of environmental
protection and the national
[1:13:56]
parks service t hat they
really
[1:13:59]
should be m uch more lenient
with respect to the county's
[1:14:03]
efforts t o improve or
transfer
[1:14:06]
or do whatever it n eeds to do
[1:14:09]
with higgs beach, so again,
another t hing we were able
[1:14:12]
do, again, a couple of years
[1:14:12]
ago, since I haven't had a
wanted
[1:14:14]
wanted
to bring it up now.
[1:14:17]
so, looking t o your federal
agenda which is the document
[1:14:20]
I
believe that you all will be
[1:14:22]
looking t o approve today, and
certainly I'm happy t o talk
[1:14:27]
about any o f these items, I'm
[1:14:27]
going to run some o the
why these t hings are
[1:14:30]
why these t hings are
important, I mentioned the
[1:14:33]
request we made last year in
successful in s ecuring, the
[1:14:37]
successful in s ecuring, the
earmark request, we made two
[1:14:41]
on behalf o f this year, they
include f unding for card
[1:14:45]
sound
bridge as well as funding for
[1:14:47]
the m onroe county storm risk
management project, t his
[1:14:49]
would
initiate the next phase o f
the
[1:14:52]
project which is known as
planning, e ngineering and
[1:14:56]
design, I'm s orry, the corps
steps, this w ould be the next
[1:15:00]
steps, this w ould be the next
step in that process and
[1:15:04]
hopefully getting us to the
point w here we're doing
[1:15:05]
construction.
Specifically for that portion
[1:15:07]
of the project, it is going
to
[1:15:10]
fund ultimately the goal is
to
[1:15:12]
fund [inaudible] and shore
line stabilization along u.s.
[1:15:17]
1, na will be one of the m
phases
[1:15:20]
phases
of the project so we're
[1:15:24]
excited to have put these
forward, congressman jimenez
[1:15:28]
also has made these two
requests on behalf of the
[1:15:32]
county, v ery appreciative of
his efforts t here, we don't
[1:15:35]
know yet whether these have
been funded, right now
[1:15:37]
congress is b eginning the
work
[1:15:39]
on appropriations for fy23
websinger could h ave some
[1:15:41]
early indications of our
level
[1:15:41]
of success within t he next
two
[1:15:45]
f few weeks, so I'll ha
more to share s oon.
[1:15:50]
we worked o n these requests
with your s taff again
[1:15:52]
internally trying to come u p
with things that were both
[1:15:56]
most pressing but also most
realistic f or federal
[1:15:59]
funding,
I will say that 'earmark',
you
[1:16:01]
can't fund anything y ou want,
fit w ithin some narrow boxes
[1:16:06]
fit w ithin some narrow boxes
requests we c ould come up
[1:16:08]
requests we c ould come up
with
[1:16:10]
that were ready t o go and
were
[1:16:14]
applicable to the county.
So, we've talked a little bit
[1:16:17]
already about the c orps of
engineers a nd how engaged
[1:16:20]
they
are now w ith a variety of
[1:16:24]
initiatives on behalf o f the
county, w e have talked tabt
[1:16:28]
coastal r isk management
project websinger n eed
[1:16:31]
authorization to move t o
construction, be&I talked
[1:16:37]
about how w e're seeking fund
[1:16:40]
tog kick start that u.s. 1
[1:16:41]
work, we also long term, this
assistance, building
[1:16:43]
assistance, building
elevation
[1:16:46]
as well as flood mitt gracing
projects and is the hardening
[1:16:51]
of critical buildings so this
[1:16:51]
is a large project, it could
[1:16:54]
deliver a lot of benefit, I
be
[1:16:57]
be
a l ong endeavor and it's
[1:17:03]
something t hat you all will
[1:17:05]
become more f luent in and I
[1:17:09]
will certainly be w ork
witching you all -- advocate
[1:17:14]
on behalf o f this project in
washington, we talked a bout
[1:17:18]
the fkwqip project as well,
the a rmy corps of engineers
[1:17:21]
the a rmy corps of engineers
sxit's an initiative for the
[1:17:25]
community and is the key and
funding going, and lisa
[1:17:27]
funding going, and lisa
mentioned the everglades
[1:17:29]
restoration is critically
important for the h ealth of
[1:17:33]
florida bay, we n eed to
improve the habitat t hat has
[1:17:38]
been degraded o ver the years
that is's o ccurred in the
[1:17:42]
that is's o ccurred in the
region, a nd I think there's
[1:17:47]
been a lot of criticism
ton federal government over
[1:17:53]
ton federal government over
ever -- everglades
[1:17:57]
ever -- everglades
restoration t f ederal
[1:18:02]
government ma stepped u p and
has proposed 2.3 billion
[1:18:07]
has proposed 2.3 billion
dollars f or everglades
[1:18:10]
restoration tha,'s when you
speak a bout the army corps of
[1:18:11]
engineers, this is the
largest
[1:18:14]
project in the history of the
most significantly federally
[1:18:18]
most significantly federally
funded project in the army
[1:18:20]
corps of engineers so you c an
[1:18:23]
think of all the different
things they do across the
[1:18:26]
country w ith respect to flood
control or ports or beach
[1:18:29]
restoration and this is t he
number one construction
[1:18:32]
project in terms of funding,
so it is very significant and
[1:18:37]
a l ot of federal commitment
continues to restore the
[1:18:38]
everglades, again t r eason
why
[1:18:41]
that's important to monroe
county is to improve water
[1:18:45]
quality I n florida bay, ther
are specific projects I
[1:18:48]
mentioned o n the slide deck,
one is known taz modified
[1:18:53]
waters, t he bridging of the
trail project, right now they
[1:18:57]
are adding culverts west tof
new bridges that have been
[1:18:58]
built, they decided they
don't
[1:18:59]
at this p oint believe they
need additional b ridging, the
[1:19:02]
culverts will be sufficient
and that the bridging that is
[1:19:07]
there n ow is working
wonderfully, we h ope to see
[1:19:09]
progress there, central
everglades planning project
is
[1:19:12]
lead tog the construction tof
initiative, I t will take well
[1:19:17]
initiative, I t will take well
more than a decade I'm su
[1:19:20]
to
build that project but I will
[1:19:25]
administration's budget for
this year to ko n
[1:19:27]
construction
on that project and another
[1:19:31]
important p roject that's been
a l ong time coming and is
[1:19:36]
partially complete but not
project, the effort is to get
[1:19:40]
project, the effort is to get
[1:19:43]
more water flowing south that
right n ow they're
[1:19:45]
right n ow they're
constructing
[1:19:53]
some permanent pump s tation
step before t hat project is
[1:19:58]
step before t hat project is
the n ational flood program,
[1:20:01]
the n ational flood program,
we
[1:20:05]
anticipate they w ill have to
authorize this program, I t
[1:20:08]
will expire at the end of
this
[1:20:12]
year, there's a w hole host of
issues, t his is bingeing mo
[1:20:17]
and m ore of a problem where
you have flooding from
[1:20:21]
weather, whether it's intense
rainfall events or storms, I
[1:20:25]
don't know if you k now what's
national park, they're having
[1:20:28]
national park, they're having
tremendous flooding and h ave
[1:20:31]
had t o close the entire
national park which seems
[1:20:33]
mind
boggling to m e tha,'s how
much
[1:20:36]
water they've had, this I s a
nationwide problem but it
[1:20:41]
impacts you s ignificantly and
significantly, so c ongress
[1:20:47]
significantly, so c ongress
will certainly extend the
[1:20:51]
program, the nfip, they may
[1:20:53]
consider an authorization,
just a lot of disagreement on
[1:20:59]
just a lot of disagreement on
[1:21:02]
how t o address the problem,
many people see the nfip as
[1:21:04]
being c ompletely broken and
in
[1:21:05]
need of m assive
transformation, the m irns
[1:21:08]
ration just r eleased a
proposal just a c ouple of
[1:21:11]
days
ago that would do a lot, it
[1:21:12]
would change a lot with the
lot
[1:21:14]
lot
with the availability of
[1:21:17]
federal flood I nsurance and I
won't get I nto those details
[1:21:22]
now, the sides are far apart.
A
[1:21:23]
a
part as an issue, its extends
[1:21:27]
to be more geographically
based s oit's not republican
[1:21:30]
and I s democrats fighting
the n fip, it tends to be
[1:21:35]
the n fip, it tends to be
[1:21:39]
dependent o n how significant
flooding can be I n your
[1:21:44]
community.
Right now, rates for the nfip
[1:21:45]
can increase over the year,
so
[1:21:48]
monroe county has been
subjecting to congress for
[1:21:52]
sometime now that we lower
reasonable rate of 9% and
[1:21:55]
reasonable rate of 9% and
give
[1:21:58]
people an o pportunity to more
easily deal w ith rate
[1:22:02]
increases that are likely to
come.
[1:22:04]
congress is t alking about
affordability provisions, I
[1:22:07]
will note that those in my
going
[1:22:09]
going
to be s uper helpful to the
[1:22:13]
keys and to your constituents
but na's something they a re
[1:22:16]
talking about as a way to
sort
[1:22:18]
of promote the equity piece
of
[1:22:19]
the n ational flood insurance
you all may h ave heard of
[1:22:23]
you all may h ave heard of
risk
[1:22:27]
rating 2.0, we talked with
your floodplain manager
[1:22:31]
earlier o n abthis issue, that
new m odel for pricing flood
[1:22:36]
insurance is fully being
implemented, full steam
[1:22:37]
ahead,
I don't see a ny chance --
[1:22:41]
well, n ot any chance, but I
[1:22:42]
don't s ee a likely chance in
changes the implementation of
[1:22:46]
changes the implementation of
this program, so for your
[1:22:50]
constituent that is are
struggling with these new
[1:22:53]
policy premiums and are
concerned t hat their rates
[1:22:55]
are
going to go through t he the
[1:22:58]
roof which might be happening
for some folks, I would
[1:23:02]
encourage y ou to collect
those
[1:23:05]
stories and g et them to lisa
[1:23:07]
so she can thn get them to m
[1:23:09]
because I t hink we need those
[1:23:09]
an nem dotes to share with
of
[1:23:11]
of
what's really h appening with
[1:23:14]
this new pricing model so
that
[1:23:18]
maybe in the future, they ca
act on it.
[1:23:21]
lisa also m entioned the
national resources
[1:23:24]
conservation service, t he
emergency watershed
[1:23:26]
protection
program, this is a program
[1:23:31]
that did deliver quite a bit
help address marine debris in
[1:23:36]
help address marine debris in
canals and near shore waters
[1:23:39]
after hurricane I rma.
You know, o n one hand, it was
[1:23:41]
a s uccessful program because
a
[1:23:44]
lot of work got done, on the
[1:23:47]
other hand, I t was very
difficult to work t hrough and
[1:23:50]
they did not approve all of
[1:23:53]
the analyses for cleanup in
be desired.
[1:23:55]
be desired.
We are trying to work to
[1:23:58]
ensure this program or
another
[1:24:01]
program c an better address
marine debris I n the future,
[1:24:05]
of course hurricane I rma will
hits the keys even though
[1:24:08]
hits the keys even though
keep my fingers crossed that
[1:24:11]
keep my fingers crossed that
certainly n eed to have a
[1:24:16]
certainly n eed to have a
program t hat effectively
[1:24:17]
helps
address marine debris, I
don't
[1:24:21]
know that the nrcswp program
a w hole coalition in
[1:24:26]
a w hole coalition in
washington to try t o address
[1:24:30]
the p roblem.
I will note though that the
[1:24:32]
county administrator
personally was involved I n
[1:24:35]
getting these funds, I think
the n rcs was surprised
[1:24:38]
frankly
by the idea they would spend
[1:24:41]
the amount of m oney that they
all
[1:24:43]
all
as much as they did which was
[1:24:46]
not enough, and I think a l ot
of
[1:24:48]
of
certainly want to n ote that
[1:24:50]
certainly want to n ote that
and c ertainly the delegation
[1:24:55]
as well, senator rubio was
significant in helping to
[1:25:00]
push
this forward, I don't believe
[1:25:04]
senator scott w as in congress
at the time or congressman
[1:25:09]
jimenez, senator rubio did a
county.
[1:25:11]
county.
Moving on to the next item,
[1:25:14]
corals, s o, commissioner
coldiron will be coming to
[1:25:18]
washington next week to auk
issue,
[1:25:20]
issue,
it doesn't take a rocket
[1:25:23]
scientist to understand that
corals are suffering
[1:25:27]
throughout florida and it's
tragic, there's not m uch more
[1:25:30]
to say, the federal
invests about 30 million
[1:25:34]
invests about 30 million
dollars I n overall coral
[1:25:39]
funding p er year but -- and
that's been consistent
[1:25:42]
relatively speaking over 20
[1:25:46]
plus years but the health of
decline, we need to c hange
[1:25:53]
decline, we need to c hange
that, t he restoring resilient
[1:25:58]
reefs a ct was introduced by
senator rubio, we h ave been
[1:26:02]
working diligently to try t o
get t his legislation passed,
[1:26:06]
it did pass the senate in
[1:26:09]
2020, t he last congress, it
[1:26:10]
had t o be restarted which I
[1:26:12]
didn't pass the hos at this
[1:26:14]
time, it now in this congres
[1:26:15]
has passed the house as part
[1:26:15]
of a much larger bill that
was
[1:26:20]
was
included in this other bill,
[1:26:24]
so we a re so close and this
[1:26:26]
bill will - - it's just going
the federal g overnment uses
[1:26:28]
the federal g overnment uses
to
[1:26:29]
try t o help improve the
health
[1:26:33]
of coral, it does propose to
more
[1:26:35]
more
importantly it offers f unds
[1:26:38]
for e mergency coral
restoration w hen it's needed,
[1:26:41]
it try tos fwet more funding
down to local entities,
[1:26:45]
whether I t taoes states or
other entities like the
[1:26:48]
county
for instance to try to
improve
[1:26:51]
corals in a much more timely
[1:26:54]
manner, the s cats quo has not
[1:26:55]
worked over t he past 20 year,
corals decline, congress has
[1:26:58]
corals decline, congress has
an opportunity right now to
[1:27:02]
help improve and save w hat we
for the f uture.
[1:27:04]
for the f uture.
I really do m rao ef this is
[1:27:07]
the best chance right now to
[1:27:08]
get t his bill passed, tla's
why I'm h appy to have
[1:27:13]
commissioner coldiron c ome to
dc, she's g oing to be
[1:27:14]
partnering with
representative
[1:27:16]
from broward county a nd
martin
[1:27:20]
county which is w here the
florida c oral reef befwins,
[1:27:24]
having meetings to encourage
all of congress to finally
[1:27:33]
pass this bill, a nd I will
[1:27:38]
restoring resilient reef pact
is supported by the entire
[1:27:41]
delegation, they're supported
by both senators and every
[1:27:44]
single member o f the florida
house d elegation, that's
[1:27:47]
really, r eally significant,
so, again, we're excited to
[1:27:50]
push on t his next week and
hopefully w e'll have good
[1:27:53]
news
later this year on the
passage
[1:27:53]
of this bill.
I do want to talk briefly
[1:27:57]
about the infa have you
beening k hur bill because it
[1:28:02]
is so I mportant, it was such
an achievement for congress
[1:28:07]
to
pass this bill, I apologize
[1:28:07]
that this conversation can
pretty quickly, particularly
[1:28:09]
pretty quickly, particularly
because it is so big and so
[1:28:13]
important and I t's so
complicated, but I want to
[1:28:15]
try
to hit a few highlights, so
[1:28:18]
you t alk about this 1.2
trillion dollar b ill,
[1:28:20]
everyone
thinks, when are we going to
[1:28:23]
get our m oney and how are we
[1:28:26]
going to get our money, you
[1:28:27]
all have gotten some money
maybe unbeknownst to you all,
[1:28:32]
your airports have received
money f rom the infrastructure
[1:28:34]
bill, t here certainly are
there will be o ther examples
[1:28:39]
there will be o ther examples
to work through its
[1:28:43]
to work through its
implementation, h alf was
[1:28:46]
essentially maintaining that
status quo with a bit more
[1:28:49]
funding, so from 1.2
trillion,
[1:28:51]
you're down to about 150
billion I n new spending, it
[1:28:55]
is
years s o that's 110 billion
[1:28:57]
years s o that's 110 billion
[1:29:00]
per year which is still a lot
amount
[1:29:03]
amount
large
[1:29:10]
large
as you may have thought when
[1:29:14]
you h eard the news, over that
for transportation, much of
[1:29:17]
for transportation, much of
those funds though still will
[1:29:21]
be granted by dot through
formula f unds which means the
[1:29:25]
funds flow to t he state and
[1:29:27]
then the state has a lot of
[1:29:28]
discretion as t o how to spend
[1:29:29]
those funds, so not all of it
in
[1:29:32]
in
big awards, h owever, some of
[1:29:33]
it will b e.
I will say that the
[1:29:38]
infrastructure bill is really
proposed to be and I think
[1:29:43]
proposed to be and I think
[1:29:46]
tla's a n important note, it's
the o bama era stimulus bill
[1:29:48]
the o bama era stimulus bill
we
[1:29:52]
had b ack in 2009, it's not on
job creation or shovel
[1:29:56]
readiness, obviously given it
five year l ife, and it's
[1:29:57]
meant
to transform our
[1:29:58]
infrastructure, I have noted
what the administration
[1:30:02]
priority ares f or the
infrastructure law, I n ote
[1:30:05]
those for t wo reasons, one,
because climate resilience is
[1:30:08]
one of the initiatives which
I
[1:30:10]
think relates v ery well to
here, but I 'll note the
[1:30:13]
here, but I 'll note the
others
[1:30:16]
as well, equity environmental
justice a nd domestic
[1:30:20]
manufacturing and labor, some
as
[1:30:24]
as
a f it for monroe county as
[1:30:28]
may compete for f unds in the
to be a ware of.
[1:30:31]
to be a ware of.
This is a good visual
[1:30:34]
representation of what the
bill is o n the right versus
[1:30:37]
what was initially proposed
by
[1:30:40]
the administration on the
started o ut as 2.6 trillion,
[1:30:45]
started o ut as 2.6 trillion,
of new pendbacker spending
[1:30:48]
of new pendbacker spending
over five a dorers so it
[1:30:50]
became
one fifth of what the
[1:30:55]
administration had lonelier
proposed, just to g ive you a
[1:31:00]
sense of scale and kiep of
what it b ecame.
[1:31:02]
I want today highlight a few
[1:31:06]
programs relevant to county,
one is the bridge investment
[1:31:10]
program, there has not been a
specific program just for
[1:31:13]
bridge improvements, but
congress did create this
[1:31:16]
through the bill, t hey are
providing 1 2.5 billion
[1:31:20]
dollars
over five years for an
[1:31:22]
application period, this is a
xet t ifz a pplication anteing
[1:31:26]
nationwide, there is money
available for these k inds of
[1:31:28]
investments, I think it's
certainly something w e'll be
[1:31:30]
working with your t eam to
identify whether or not I t's
[1:31:33]
a
good fit for a competitive
application.
[1:31:36]
I will note it also is in
[1:31:38]
addition to a much larger
of
[1:31:40]
of
florida I n which tallahassee
has authority o ver.
[1:31:45]
you may h ave heard about the
brick program, fema's
[1:31:48]
building
resilient infrastructure in
[1:31:49]
communities, this is what
they
[1:31:53]
renamed the p redisaster
mitigation, you h ave made
[1:31:57]
applications for these funds
in the past t twin lakes
[1:32:00]
project w ould have fit in
category so w e did
[1:32:04]
category so w e did
for that as I described, bu
[1:32:09]
for that as I described, bu
this program, we'll have
[1:32:13]
additional funding due to the
infrastructure law, charging
[1:32:17]
grants for ev infrastructure,
invest in charging
[1:32:19]
invest in charging
infrastructure by t he federal
[1:32:23]
government, ice s traight
shot,
[1:32:25]
everybody's on one road, you
start t o build infrastructure
[1:32:28]
and certain spacing so I
think
[1:32:31]
likely you'll see investment
through the state m ore than
[1:32:36]
likely in ev charging
capabilities here in the keys
[1:32:39]
in the near future, last but
not l east t protectbacker
[1:32:43]
protect grant programs is a
transportation program that
[1:32:45]
is
specifically related to
[1:32:47]
resilience, I w ill note it's
only 1.4 billion dollars over
[1:32:52]
five years which again sounds
like a lot, when you're talk
[1:32:54]
k
about a nationwide
[1:32:56]
competition, iet esnot all
that much, you'll see how
[1:32:59]
it's
divided a mongst four
programs,
[1:33:01]
each of t hose four programs
is
[1:33:04]
going to be divided by five
years because they're going
[1:33:07]
to
have application periods,
more
[1:33:09]
importantly, there's 7.3
billion from this program
[1:33:14]
going to the state from
formula f unds, they will have
[1:33:19]
additional fund tog invest in
these k ind of resilient
[1:33:20]
transportation initiatives,
so
something that might be
[1:33:24]
valuable to the county in t
[1:33:26]
faou khu, I think that's it
time
[1:33:28]
time
to speak with you all and
[1:33:31]
happy to answer any questions
you m ay have, thanks very
[1:33:33]
much
for the opportunity.
[1:33:33]
>> thank you very m uch, any
questions?
[1:33:37]
>> no, I just w ant to say
[1:33:38]
thank you f or an excellent
report and update, very
[1:33:43]
informative, thank you.
>> thank you.
[1:33:47]
>> great job, thank you.
>> thank you.
[1:33:51]
>> and hope you enjoyed your
brief as it was.
[1:33:55]
brief as it was.
>> you know, I always say t
[1:33:58]
next time will hopefully be
longer.
[1:33:59]
I'll bring the family next
time, thank you very much.
[1:34:03]
>> thank you.
>> we'll hold you to that.
[1:34:05]
>> sorry, mr. Mayor, rarely
do
[1:34:12]
we hear such good news out
our federal partners and I
[1:34:17]
haven't heard o f a federal
cheery and forward thinking
[1:34:20]
cheery and forward thinking
and I 'm excited you're on our
[1:34:23]
team and wish I could g o to
dc
[1:34:25]
but I can't, maybe next time.
>> personally, I would like
[1:34:28]
the spend as much of that
transportation money as we
[1:34:33]
can
get o ur hands on.
We have p lans.
[1:34:37]
>> as we're about to hear I
believe.
[1:34:38]
>> yes.
>> thank you.
[1:34:39]
>> greg, I do have a
question,
[1:34:43]
when we're talking about the
monroe county coastal storm
[1:34:47]
management and the u.s. 1
revampment and that w as part
[1:34:49]
of the army corps of
engineers
[1:34:51]
the, came I n and they did
that
[1:34:55]
three year study and we were
[1:34:55]
told on more than one
occasion, it's going to be
[1:34:59]
put
in a big bind and her we'll
[1:35:00]
be
with all of the other area
[1:35:04]
that are also doing these
[1:35:05]
types of study and is the
[1:35:07]
likelihood of us getting
picked
[1:35:13]
picked
out of it and funded was not
[1:35:17]
very high, how do you see u
some
[1:35:21]
some
of these projects funded?
[1:35:23]
>> you know, I won't down
play
[1:35:26]
the difficulty of getting t he
kind of f unding that's been
[1:35:30]
recommended f or this project,
I m ean, I mentioned this is
[1:35:34]
going to be something that
time.
[1:35:35]
time.
It is n ot easy to get new
[1:35:38]
projects started by t he army
corps because they have so
[1:35:42]
much work already ongoing bu
[1:35:42]
if you don't start, then --
don't have the plans
[1:35:46]
don't have the plans
developed, then t he next time
[1:35:49]
a storm h its, you have sort
of
[1:35:51]
-- there are some
opportunities to get this
[1:35:54]
funded both t hrough the
regular f ederal funding
[1:35:57]
cycles
as well as should a storm
[1:35:59]
hit,
the c ongress often will make
[1:36:02]
funding a vailable and will
fund some projects that have
[1:36:05]
basically been studied even
if
[1:36:06]
they haven't been
funnelbacker
[1:36:10]
funded, if anything else, it
some
[1:36:14]
some
funding a fter another
disaster
[1:36:17]
but we're c ertainly working
hard as is congressman
[1:36:21]
jimenez
and certainly with the
support
[1:36:25]
of senators r uby and scott to
[1:36:28]
push forward and get this
planning work started so they
[1:36:32]
can be fully ready to break
[1:36:32]
ground and do work as soon
know,
[1:36:34]
know,
clear
[1:36:49]
clear
answer, it's a challenge,
[1:36:52]
we're g oing to work to work
on
it.
[1:36:56]
>> the plan was already a
[1:36:58]
billion dollars and w e were
fund
[1:37:00]
fund
this, wla's t he point of
[1:37:04]
having the plan, luckily we
had a nother storm two years
[1:37:07]
later and all of a sudden
[1:37:10]
money became available and we
[1:37:13]
had to plan, here it is, an
[1:37:18]
they got fund, that's what
ready, here I t is, hopefully
[1:37:23]
ready, here I t is, hopefully
storm, but maybe money will
[1:37:26]
storm, but maybe money will
become available, so tla's
[1:37:27]
why
it's important to have a plan.
Er
[1:37:29]
>> having sat up here for
[1:37:31]
more than a couple of days
now, I realize that
[1:37:35]
hurricanes
are problems but they also
[1:37:35]
create opportunities if
ready to take advantage of
[1:37:39]
ready to take advantage of
[1:37:42]
them and I think that's what
and m onroe county typically
[1:37:47]
and m onroe county typically
does a pretty good job of
[1:37:51]
being r eady to take advantage
[1:37:56]
of those opportunities, so
thank you v ery much, both of
[1:38:02]
you, for what you do becaus
[1:38:05]
it's -- and lisa, it always
[1:38:06]
amazes me t hat your depth of
owe you a great deal.
[1:38:12]
owe you a great deal.
Thank y ou.
>> thank you.
[1:38:17]
>> mayor, did you want to
take
[1:38:18]
a b reak?
>> no.
[1:38:19]
>> we do need a motion on
that
[1:38:22]
item.
>> move t o approve.
>> second.
[1:38:24]
er
>> we have a motion and a
[1:38:29]
second, h earing no objection,
the I tem is approved.
[1:38:30]
>> can I make a motion to go
[1:38:35]
to the restroom.
[1:49:05]
>> and we will take a short
>> I'll second that.
[1:49:10]
>> I'll second that.
( meeting I n brief recess ).
[1:49:16]
>> mayor, we don't have
[1:49:19]
another I tem until 11:00, so
[1:49:20]
we were g oing to call the
presentation will take about
[1:49:25]
presentation will take about
7 m inutes, is that okay?
[1:49:32]
7 m inutes, is that okay?
[1:49:40]
>> okay.
>> this w ill help us get out
[1:49:44]
early .
[1:49:45]
>> good.
[1:49:48]
>> so, we're still o n a
for 7 more minutes?
[1:59:49]
for 7 more minutes?
>> yes.
[1:59:53]
( m eeting in recess ).
>> okay, board of county
[1:59:56]
commissioners.
>> your next item is going to
[1:59:59]
be on page 12, item p1,
attorney report f or june 2022.
[2:00:05]
attorney report f or june 2022.
>> you're up, b ob.
[2:00:09]
>> will theser, so, there's
read
[2:00:16]
read
into record and request a
[2:00:22]
couple of t hings.
The county is currently if
[2:00:27]
litigation with - -
>> we c an't hear you.
[2:00:29]
>> these are sensitive
microphones.
[2:00:29]
er kufrjts hear me now?
>> yes.
[2:00:35]
>> alright, s o the county's
counter in litigation in the
[2:00:40]
matter of tammy lee versus
monroe count tu case number
[2:00:41]
cv10041, the southern
district
[2:00:42]
of florida, I n eed your
advice
[2:00:44]
concerning litigation,
request
you schedule a private
[2:00:47]
meeting, this w ill be
confined
[2:00:51]
to settlement negotiations
related t o lit expenditures,
[2:00:56]
persons in attendance will be
the c ounty commissioners,
[2:00:59]
county commissioner, myself,
cynthia hall and special
[2:01:04]
cynthia hall and special
outside counsel chris s terns
[2:01:08]
from -- and a certified
court
[2:01:11]
reporter by l aw, no other
meeting, it is estimated to
[2:01:14]
meeting, it is estimated to
be
[2:01:14]
30 minutes, t he court
reporter
[2:01:16]
shall record the times of
tof meeting, all discussions
[2:01:20]
tof meeting, all discussions
paren at any time and all
[2:01:25]
paren at any time and all
persons speak, the court
[2:01:30]
reporter's reports will be
trance transcribed, sealed
[2:01:32]
and
part of the public record at
[2:01:34]
the c onclusion of litigation,
can I get a motion to
[2:01:38]
schedule
a closed session at the july
[2:01:41]
20, 2022 meeting in marathon
beginning a t 1:30 p.m. Or
[2:01:44]
soon
thereafter as m ay be header.
[2:01:45]
>> so moved.
>> second.
Er
[2:01:52]
>> we have a motion and a
[2:01:55]
second, the I tem is approved.
Going a sk for a closed
[2:02:01]
going a sk for a closed
session
[2:02:05]
on is [inaudible] sim trust
farm llc versus monroe
[2:02:10]
farm llc versus monroe
county,
[2:02:13]
case number 19ca460p, I need
your advice c oncerning that
[2:02:18]
litigation, we request you
schedule the closed session,
[2:02:22]
the subject matter will be
confined to settlement
[2:02:24]
negotiation, litigation
expenditures, t he
commissioners, myself,
[2:02:27]
outside
counsel, andrew mai, assist
[2:02:30]
tan county attorney peter
morris, a c ertified court
[2:02:34]
reporter, by law, no other
persons s hall be permitted at
[2:02:38]
the meeting, it will take
approximately 30 minutes, t he
[2:02:41]
court r eporter shall
transcribe the times of
[2:02:42]
commencement, termination o f
the meeting, all discussions
[2:02:45]
and p roceedings, all persons
present, all persons
[2:02:47]
speaking,
the c ourt reporter's notes
[2:02:50]
will be fully transcribed,
sealed and filed with t he
[2:02:55]
clerk, the transcribe w ill be
get
[2:02:57]
get
a m otion to schedule this
[2:03:00]
closed session in marathon at
1:30 or s oon thereafter as
[2:03:02]
may
be heard.
.
[2:03:02]
er so moved.
Er
>> second.
[2:03:04]
er
>> we have a motion ask a
[2:03:07]
second, h earing no objection,
approved.
[2:03:10]
>> alright, the last thing is
in early this morning,
[2:03:15]
in early this morning,
remember the collins davis
[2:03:18]
case, one o f our takings
cases
[2:03:20]
that started in 2004, we
think
[2:03:24]
we have t he final, final,
[2:03:26]
final last ruling and that
[2:03:28]
case will f inally be put to
[2:03:29]
bed, so t he third district
court of appeal this morning
[2:03:34]
affirmed the lower court
ruling on h ow the attorney's
[2:03:36]
fees were handled, there was
a
[2:03:38]
dispute between t he property
owner's former attorney a nd
[2:03:41]
their current a ttorney, we
were somehow dragged into
[2:03:43]
that
dispute, but 18 years later
[2:03:46]
and I t's done, what started
they were demanding, it w as
[2:03:51]
they were demanding, it w as
about a d ozen property owners
[2:03:54]
demanding I think it was the
[2:03:56]
number I heard early on wa
[2:03:59]
like 30 m illion, we ended up
[2:04:02]
paying out from the county
side under 300 thousand for
[2:04:05]
the j udgment, the fees, costs
while to get those things
[2:04:08]
while to get those things
>> that's the understatement
[2:04:11]
>> that's the understatement
of the century.
[2:04:15]
>> so, that's my report.
>> well, congratulations,
[2:04:19]
thank y ou.
>> okay, next I tem.
[2:04:23]
er yes, y our next item is o
[2:04:25]
page 10, item o3, it's my
[2:04:28]
understanding ms. Hague w ill
be here by zoom, presentation
[2:04:32]
under the c ontract with hdr
inc. For t he roads
[2:04:36]
vulnerability analysis and
stained road and is related
[2:04:37]
stained road and is related
services, of a project update
[2:04:42]
on the final vulnerable and
criticality assessment
[2:04:47]
results
billion for t he roadsters
[2:04:52]
billion for t he roadsters
adaptation capital plan.
[2:04:55]
>> good m orning, so, today --
good morning.
[2:04:59]
here we a re at the end of o
[2:05:01]
road elevation planning
project, so t oday will be
[2:05:03]
your
we will have one later in th
[2:05:07]
we will have one later in th
[2:05:10]
fall for a policy discussion,
so today you're going to hear
[2:05:14]
from emilio about what the
having good n ews about that,
[2:05:17]
having good n ews about that,
we're going t o show how
[2:05:19]
public
participation can b e
enhanced,
[2:05:20]
we're going to show h ow the
[2:05:22]
public can go o n there and
[2:05:25]
look up t heir road and see
[2:05:26]
where it is on the plan and
[2:05:28]
what the plans are for that,
bit m ore about just
[2:05:30]
bit m ore about just
everything
[2:05:32]
that's going on, what a
typical road elevation
[2:05:35]
project
looks like and what these
[2:05:38]
conceptual designs have done
and you're going the hear
[2:05:42]
emilio talk about h ow these
plan ares going to be
[2:05:44]
uploaded
to the website, I think you
[2:05:46]
heard this morning how all
these p lans are important, so
[2:05:50]
in our next item at 11:30,
how
[2:05:51]
how
we used a ll of this
[2:05:54]
information that we u sed in
these projects and how
[2:05:56]
they're
feeding into our grant
[2:05:56]
applications for the
florida program a nd hopefully
[2:06:01]
florida program a nd hopefully
other g rant programs too, and
[2:06:06]
I w ant to welcome judy clark
joining u s, emilio is with
[2:06:10]
you
there t oday as is aaron di
[2:06:12]
and our o ther team member is
you again, with that, we're
[2:06:17]
you again, with that, we're
going to go ahead and start.
[2:06:22]
>> thank you, good morning,
commissioners.
[2:06:25]
I imagine will the
presentation be shown, ronda?
[2:06:28]
yeah, I'm waiting.
[2:06:32]
>> just give him a minute.
Er yeah, it will happen.
[2:06:55]
er yeah, it will happen.
[2:07:00]
>> good morning, judy.
[2:07:21]
>> good m orning.
[2:07:24]
>> that is the the
follow up w ith.
[2:07:28]
follow up w ith.
>> it's a lot of images.
[2:07:33]
rhonda, you s ee the
presentation?
[2:07:38]
>> yes, we can see it.
[2:07:47]
we can see it.
>> you can be the star tof
[2:07:52]
show while you're presenting.
>> okay.
Well, g ood morning,
[2:07:54]
commissioners, again,
thankers
for the o pportunity, it's
[2:07:56]
been
working on this project, so
[2:08:02]
working on this project, so
appreciate you haerg us out,
[2:08:07]
appreciate you haerg us out,
I'm e milio with engineering,
[2:08:11]
the lead project work
witching
[2:08:12]
our teamm ates, erin and greg
mentioned the analysis has
[2:08:16]
mentioned the analysis has
been complete, today you'll
[2:08:19]
see a c ompletion of the
conceptual design, the cost
[2:08:23]
estimates a nd also the
adaptation plan what we have
[2:08:28]
here from o ur project areas,
know
[2:08:29]
know
everything starts off w ith
the
[2:08:34]
sea l evel rise projections,
these are c onsistent with the
[2:08:38]
currently adopted p rojections
for t he southeast regional
[2:08:41]
climate compactfinger t hese
were issued b ack in 2019,
[2:08:43]
what
they indicate at this p oint
is
[2:08:45]
by 2025, we can anticipate
looking at the water levels
[2:08:48]
to
date, it's going the increase
[2:08:50]
about an inch and a h alf
[2:08:53]
within the next three and a
an additional 10fishmongers
[2:08:57]
an additional 10fishmongers
and a h alf by 2045, an
[2:09:02]
additional 11 I nches by 2060
by
[2:09:04]
by
2100, you're looking within
[2:09:08]
the next 78 yaoe, 5.5 feet of
[2:09:11]
increase, you may k now that
not l inear, it's
[2:09:13]
not l inear, it's
exponentially
[2:09:15]
growth and this takes factors
other t han historical date
[2:09:19]
taxer it looks at the melting
and all t hose other stuff
[2:09:22]
that
is factored in so there are
[2:09:26]
several things looked I nto
that stuff, but I wanted to
[2:09:31]
give you a perspective, we're
foot tall p erson.
[2:09:35]
foot tall p erson.
>> just to clarify that, is
[2:09:38]
that increased from this year
started these projections?
[2:09:41]
started these projections?
>> what you're showing here,
[2:09:45]
correct, from 2 025 is we're
looking at being able t o
[2:09:49]
provide t hat projection, the
addition is I n between those
[2:09:54]
segments so, the 10.5 inches
[2:09:54]
will be from 2025 to 2045,
[2:09:58]
you
can ant p ate based on
[2:10:02]
projections it will be
increasing by 10.5 inches.
[2:10:06]
the s ea level rise provides
the basis, but down here,
[2:10:09]
especially in south n ror
abasing also in monroe
[2:10:13]
county,
it also a ffects the king
[2:10:16]
tides, we d o see them, they
exacerbate when y ou have
[2:10:21]
storms out there, we can with
[2:10:22]
the l els and the value wes
[2:10:23]
have here, we can look at
[2:10:27]
future predictions of what's
going to take place and how
[2:10:32]
it's going to increase, 2045,
of
[2:10:33]
of
depth, roadway segments and
[2:10:37]
increasing all the way to 3.5
[2:10:40]
feet of d epth by 2060, these
cannot ignore currently we do
[2:10:43]
cannot ignore currently we do
[2:10:45]
have that vulnerable, there
[2:10:49]
are l ow lying areas where you
[2:10:53]
have flooding and I t's fot
[2:10:55]
only the fact that you see
[2:10:56]
salt water or sea level rise
if
[2:11:00]
if
it stays on t he surface
longer
[2:11:02]
times, it p ercolate and is
you
[2:11:06]
will see the flood areas
throughout the county.
[2:11:11]
as part o f the project
overall, a recap we have done
[2:11:16]
throughout the time, we can
make the keys more resilient,
[2:11:20]
we did an evaluation of
several y ears, the short term
[2:11:25]
ask long term, we looked at
2025, b etween five year
[2:11:29]
intervals 2 , 160, 2500, we
looked at sea level rise
[2:11:31]
which
is throughout websinger a dded
[2:11:35]
the component t of king tide
[2:11:37]
tha,'s an item you can see
[2:11:40]
today, it's I n the today and
[2:11:41]
something that was able t o
allow us to model and
[2:11:45]
identify
the I mpacts of the king ti
[2:11:48]
for a ll the county maintained
roadways, we were able to
[2:11:52]
look
and extreme events, a ll this
[2:11:56]
and extreme events, a ll this
was t o look at those while
[2:12:01]
was t o look at those while
projected w ater surface
[2:12:04]
elevations, conducting
vulnerability and
[2:12:08]
prioritization evaluation, we
saw the I r yas of concern,
[2:12:13]
when will t hese areas are
going t o be impacted, define
[2:12:17]
what are the project
elements,
[2:12:18]
and permitting to evaluate
the
preliminary cost estimates.
[2:12:24]
so, the I nitiative for the
pronlt, we started with six
[2:12:29]
main tasks, tasks 1-3 have
been completed websinger ear
[2:12:32]
at the tail end of 4, 5 a
6,
[2:12:35]
the p olicy review, the hope
to
[2:12:39]
be wrapping it up within the
next month.
[2:12:40]
I think I t's important, I
want
[2:12:43]
to touch base a gain, the
vulnerability a nd the
[2:12:47]
criticality, that was key to
be able to identify not only
[2:12:51]
identify the vulnerable areas
but h ow do we prioritize the
[2:12:56]
segments, we started off by
every r oad is equally
[2:12:59]
important, we wanted to
provide a n unbias assessment
[2:13:03]
of all the roadways, that
took
[2:13:06]
six m onths of data gatherin
all the d ata, we start
[2:13:09]
all the d ata, we start
witched
[2:13:12]
a two s tep process, the firs
websinger h ad 1200
[2:13:15]
websinger h ad 1200
independent
[2:13:18]
roadway siemens that we were
analyzing all t his through
[2:13:23]
gis, that's a n important tool
we use throughout, we
[2:13:26]
evaluated t he environmental
factors o r the structural
[2:13:28]
integrity o f these roadway
siemens and d eveloped five
[2:13:31]
factors and looked at the
surface I mplementation, the
[2:13:35]
groundwater clearance, the
impacts o f wave humdinger, we
[2:13:38]
had d ata about the existing
conditions of t he pavement,
[2:13:39]
we
met with the planning
[2:13:41]
department, w ith the county
planning department a nd we
[2:13:45]
were able to prioritize what
are those f actors we truly
[2:13:50]
want to f ocus on, it doesn't
aren't important, r oadway
[2:13:54]
aren't important, r oadway
surface inundation and the
[2:13:55]
groundwater clearance which
la
[2:13:58]
the h igher percentage, it
and t ailor the assessment to
[2:14:02]
and t ailor the assessment to
client.
[2:14:05]
client.
The groundwater here
[2:14:08]
the groundwater here
clearance
[2:14:11]
is important because the lime
rock of the keys almost
[2:14:18]
provides a ratio of a one to
[2:14:21]
one sea level rise in the
[2:14:22]
groundwater s o when the sea
groundwater level goes up, we
[2:14:26]
groundwater level goes up, we
where you're going to have
[2:14:29]
where you're going to have
high groundwater and in a
[2:14:33]
couple of years, that will b
surface water in that case.
[2:14:36]
we were able to o btain a
vulnerability score for e ach
[2:14:39]
one o f those 1200 segments
it ideas the areas of
[2:14:41]
it ideas the areas of
concern,
[2:14:44]
we needed to look at how do
we
[2:14:47]
prioritize these areas, this
criticality analysis, we
[2:14:49]
criticality analysis, we
looked at those factors
[2:14:53]
inxlaouns u r oused by the
human nature, we had 7
[2:14:56]
factors
here which is more than the
[2:15:00]
other one a nd startd off with
the n umber of residential
[2:15:04]
the n umber of residential
units, critical facility,
[2:15:07]
environmental factors w here
evacuation route and then
[2:15:09]
evacuation route and then
also
[2:15:12]
the u se of the particular
parcel.
[2:15:14]
and again t hrough
coordination
[2:15:17]
with the county, we were able
factors which w ere the
[2:15:21]
factors which w ere the
vulnerability score, the
[2:15:23]
number of r esidential units
and the r oadway associated
[2:15:27]
with critical f acilities.
Again, not that the virtual
[2:15:28]
is
important, it's v ery
[2:15:30]
important, we're talk about
existing roadways so there's
[2:15:34]
ways to mitigate that,
there's
[2:15:36]
ways of mitigating that
right-of-way impact, those
[2:15:40]
can
be managed and engineered
[2:15:44]
without c reating, you're not
carving a b rand new roadway
[2:15:48]
and w iping out environmental
features which would be
[2:15:49]
critical.
Before we jump into how we
[2:15:52]
developed the project a reas
and t he cost estimate, I want
[2:15:57]
to give you a quick update of
approach the adaptation
[2:16:00]
approach the adaptation
improvements.
Previous presentation, you've
[2:16:02]
seen there's different
typical
[2:16:04]
sections all throughout, even
though 90% of t he pronlt
[2:16:08]
limit
ares residential in nature
televising's different
[2:16:10]
typical, that varies
depending
[2:16:12]
on the ground elevation t
right o f way width, how clo
[2:16:16]
the properties may be there
and
[2:16:17]
and
so on, so t here's several
[2:16:19]
factors that allows u s to
approach that, however, we
[2:16:24]
did
have a very similar unique
[2:16:25]
approach and that's an
example
[2:16:28]
here of the w ay we approach
[2:16:31]
the analysis of a ll the
[inaudible] on tavernier
[2:16:34]
[inaudible] on tavernier
ocean
[2:16:37]
shores as c ase study, it's a
rod t hat it's abutting
[2:16:41]
environmental a rea, stinger
road, you can s ee the
[2:16:42]
right-of-way where the
properties, where the fence
[2:16:46]
is, you h ave some utilities,
the existing -- the lowest
[2:16:52]
the existing -- the lowest
[2:16:55]
part of the roadway elevation
at the projections, water by
[2:16:59]
at the projections, water by
2025, s ea rise alone is
[2:17:03]
anticipated to go up 2.26
feet, t hat's 16 inches above
[2:17:05]
that existing low ground
[2:17:08]
area,
so we look at as part of the
[2:17:15]
adaptation part o f it is in
[2:17:18]
this particular case, y ou can
it, a concrete barrier wall
[2:17:20]
it, a concrete barrier wall
mitigate those environmental
[2:17:23]
mitigate those environmental
impacts a nd right-of-way
[2:17:27]
impacts a nd collect the
stormwater and added the
[2:17:30]
stormwater system, this is 16
inches above the existing
[2:17:32]
site
today and we've a dded a
[2:17:34]
stormwater or a closed
stormwater system, what t his
[2:17:39]
does is by 2045 when sea
level
[2:17:43]
rise goes up to that 2.26, w
[2:17:45]
know that r oadway is going to
[2:17:48]
be dry most o f the year,
[2:17:49]
however king tides are ant
in
[2:17:52]
in
avd, it will exceed the
[2:17:55]
existing surface, that's when
you h ave the system being
[2:17:58]
able
to pump that watt t ore the
[2:18:01]
system, remember the king
sides a re a temporary
[2:18:04]
condition, they're able k eep
that roadway dry in that
[2:18:08]
particular case, you could
raise the r oadway more in
[2:18:10]
this
particular case, you would
[2:18:12]
have to raise it by an
[2:18:13]
additional 14 inches in o rder
to guarantee that at least
[2:18:16]
you
can t ry to maintain it dry
[2:18:17]
all
year round, a t that point,
you
[2:18:20]
will have right-of-way
impacts
[2:18:21]
and you have to analyze
furthermore e ven the
[2:18:25]
accessibility to some of
these
[2:18:26]
property the higher y ou raise
it, the more you will
[2:18:29]
impocket
those components.
In a similar manner,
[2:18:33]
[inaudible] road and also
here
[2:18:35]
in tavernier ocean shores, we
chose this one because you
[2:18:41]
don't have environmental on
both sides, we have a wider
[2:18:47]
right of way, similar manner,
there's a higher elevation,
[2:18:51]
this has 1.64 feet avd
existing, when you look at
[2:18:54]
sea
level r ise of 2045 tha,'s
[2:18:55]
osier inches from the
existing
[2:18:59]
ground, in a similar manner,
roadway, approximately 10
[2:19:02]
roadway, approximately 10
inches above the existing
[2:19:06]
ground, that's the edge of
pavements and we added a
[2:19:10]
stormwater system here, for
sea level r ise for 2045,
[2:19:12]
you'll be a ble to maintain
roadway dry there a nd when
[2:19:14]
roadway dry there a nd when
you
[2:19:17]
do have those king tides
situations, the stormwater
[2:19:20]
system will be able to
mitigate them, this is an
[2:19:22]
approach we use all
throughout
[2:19:24]
but in some c ases also and
[2:19:27]
here also again if you would
[2:19:28]
like to m aintain the roadway
drier a ll throughout and make
[2:19:33]
the increase because you do
have the right-of-way, you
[2:19:35]
may
minimize some o f the impacts
[2:19:37]
to be able to increase those
[2:19:38]
additional 14 inches to be
above t he king tide waters
[2:19:43]
and
provide that dry there, t he
[2:19:47]
stormwater system f rom the
from the permanent
[2:19:49]
requirement
x you don't c ontribute to any
[2:19:52]
flooding along the properties.
Third option here and t he
[2:19:55]
last
one here that we have -- go
[2:20:00]
ahead, commissioner.
>> could we go back, my
[2:20:04]
impression is in 2045, people
[2:20:06]
in that neighborhood will be
[2:20:09]
able to d rive the road if we
[2:20:11]
elevate it and be dry, and
[2:20:13]
when they t urn off into their
[2:20:13]
yards, they h ave z will have
have
[2:20:18]
have
we accomplished?
[2:20:20]
>> some p roperty so it
[2:20:22]
varies, - - some property it
varies, some of t hem are
[2:20:27]
high,
some of them are low, and you
[2:20:29]
may h ave some circumstances
there, the roadway system
[2:20:32]
will
be able to capture the king
[2:20:35]
tide conditions and a ddress
[2:20:35]
it, but a ny sea level rise if
[2:20:37]
you have a low property or
come framing the backyard,
[2:20:42]
the
system will not directly be
[2:20:43]
collecting that w ater there,
depending again and t hose are
[2:20:46]
also some o f the
circumstances, it goes with
[2:20:50]
raising the r oad, the higher
[2:20:52]
you raise I t, you build up a
[2:20:55]
little berm I n that area, so
[2:20:55]
that is a factor of how much
the
[2:20:57]
the
roadway in addition to the
[2:21:02]
other components as r ight of
way a nd other impacts.
[2:21:06]
>> so, the individual home
owners will have to b e
[2:21:10]
looking
at additional elevations to
[2:21:13]
match that of the road if
they
[2:21:17]
don't want to turn off into
road?
[2:21:20]
road?
>> there's -- and erin will
[2:21:22]
touch m ore on this
information
[2:21:24]
because I t's comprehensive
approach, it is p art of a
[2:21:27]
comprehensive approach
at one point, and we saw it
[2:21:29]
at one point, and we saw it
on
[2:21:33]
shau u shaw drive when they
[2:21:34]
install t ed tefp rare dams
[2:21:38]
where it served its purpose,
[2:21:41]
it kept t he water from come
[2:21:43]
ining there, if you have low
[2:21:44]
ground elevation t salt wate
seeps f rom the grouped, so
[2:21:47]
raise t hing ground
comprehensively in the area,
[2:21:49]
that will b e an ultimate
[2:21:53]
solution.
>> I think it's necessary for
[2:21:56]
the p ublic to understand that
[2:21:59]
at great cost, we can elevate
of the cost.
[2:22:04]
of the cost.
The end o f the cost is whe
[2:22:05]
they elevate their property
[2:22:05]
as
going
[2:22:10]
going
to have to change some of o
[2:22:14]
codes in order to allow them
[2:22:17]
to do t hat.
There's a m yriad of issues
[2:22:21]
all
elevations that present
[2:22:24]
elevations that present
policy
[2:22:27]
would n ot allow, so this can
long road.
[2:22:31]
long road.
>> yes.
>> a long, windy road.
[2:22:37]
>> yes.
>> well, --
[2:22:40]
>> you noticed staff laughed
anybody else, t hey know
[2:22:44]
anybody else, t hey know
they're supposed to l augh.
[2:22:47]
>> one thing that is pornts,
[2:22:49]
all throughout, one t hing we
solution, again w ebsinger
[2:22:51]
solution, again w ebsinger
cannot always apply t he same
[2:22:55]
for a ll, there's some
circumstances, like for
[2:22:58]
example t elevising's a small
segment here we identified
[2:23:01]
that the approaches of this
particular road in here,
[2:23:05]
point
view, h ave a good existing
[2:23:08]
elevation, there's a low dip
on the 90 degree elbow
[2:23:12]
elevation there, so you're
looking at that low elevation
[2:23:15]
there, when y ou are thinking
about providing a s olution,
[2:23:16]
it
doesn't seem practical to
[2:23:19]
provide a whole pump station
system and invest thaul for
[2:23:24]
just 200 feet of raise thing
[2:23:25]
roadway, so I w anted to bring
did e valuate each location,
[2:23:30]
did e valuate each location,
when we s ee there's enough
[2:23:32]
right-of-way, you d on't have
the properties abutting on
[2:23:33]
the
side, if you raise the
roadway
[2:23:35]
you, ear not going the
contribute to the f looding
[2:23:39]
and
we're n ot winding the asphalt
[2:23:41]
footprint, you're able to
raise the roadway, be a ble to
[2:23:46]
address t he permitting
requirements without
affecting
[2:23:50]
the e xisting [inaudible] and
being able to implement the
[2:23:55]
improvement and not p rovide a
supplemental with a pump
[2:23:56]
system, rather than raising
it
[2:23:59]
to try to meet the sea level
[2:24:02]
rise in t his particular case,
[2:24:04]
you r aise a roadway, it will
ground with n o stormwater
[2:24:08]
ground with n o stormwater
system, when sea level rise
[2:24:10]
takes place, it will be no
king
[2:24:11]
king
tide conditions, it will not
[2:24:13]
be an issue, so this is
something that some
[2:24:17]
particular
cases w as evaluated all
[2:24:19]
throughout wherever possible
impacts and m ore important
[2:24:22]
impacts and m ore important
the
construction costs.
[2:24:28]
the neighborhood area, so as
you recall, w e got a
[2:24:33]
criticality value for e ach of
those 1200 roadway segments,
[2:24:34]
when we s tarted looking at
it,
[2:24:37]
it doesn't seem practical to
have 1200 individual roadway
[2:24:40]
projects so, we started
wrapping them and identifying
[2:24:44]
into particular project areas
how t o implement that, we
[2:24:47]
how t o implement that, we
came
[2:24:51]
out with 83 comprehensive
areas all t hroughout the keys
[2:24:55]
extending f rom [inaudible]
road all the way down the ke
[2:25:00]
west, w e're able to
graphically place t hem in the
[2:25:02]
gis and [inaudible] a little
bit more because this is
[2:25:06]
available on the project
website, you can see where
[2:25:08]
those p roject areas are, and
here's a quick summary, I
[2:25:13]
know
it's a lot of dots but thi
[2:25:15]
shows from here the upper
keys
[2:25:20]
show casing w hat are those
project o r neighborhood areas
[2:25:24]
and then up a little bit more
[2:25:25]
on the adaptation plan, the
red corresponds t o those
[2:25:28]
plans
vulnerable to 2025, the
[2:25:31]
mrao u, vulnerable by 2030.
Available on the website?
[2:25:33]
available on the website?
.
[2:25:34]
er it's o n the project
website
[2:25:38]
and I have a section here
navigate and access the
[2:25:41]
navigate and access the
information.
[2:25:43]
.
Er thank you.
[2:25:45]
>> and then you see the lower
all
[2:25:49]
all
throughout that pretty much
[2:25:52]
with eel work our way down t
[2:25:54]
the k ey west area, this is
the c ounty maintained
[2:25:58]
the c ounty maintained
unincorporated maintained
roadway s ections.
[2:26:03]
now, we h ave those project
is we w ent ahead and
[2:26:07]
is we w ent ahead and
developed
[2:26:09]
the conceptual plans for each
[2:26:10]
one o f these areas, this wa
you
[2:26:13]
you
two things, it gives you the
[2:26:18]
praot fript -- footprint of
[2:26:18]
your project limit and is
assess what a re your
[2:26:21]
assess what a re your
environmental issue a nd is
[2:26:26]
constraints w e will encounter
estimate, we took that in,
[2:26:29]
estimate, we took that in,
adaptation plan a nd the
[2:26:32]
adaptation plan a nd the
program c ost, in summary, we
[2:26:35]
looked at f rit the adaptation
plan by y ear of projected
[2:26:40]
impact, s o by 2025, being
considered as a year
[2:26:42]
projected
vulnerability, we found t he
[2:26:44]
upper keys, you'll be a ble to
have 16 neighborhood areas
[2:26:49]
that will become vulnerable
and t hen four phased
[2:26:51]
neighborhood areas is p art of
a neighborhood area, for
[2:26:55]
example, you have a whole
vulnerable by 2 025 and the
[2:26:59]
vulnerable by 2 025 and the
rest may be vulnerable by
[2:27:02]
2035
and there's t hat option to
[2:27:05]
implement it in a phased
approach, t o not implement
[2:27:10]
everything at once, you c an,
but I t gives you that
[2:27:12]
marketability to address
those
areas of concern.
[2:27:17]
we also have in the middle
[2:27:20]
keys and the lower keys sx,
[2:27:22]
what was interesting is that
by 2025, if we're looking a
[2:27:26]
the 2045 projections, that
includes by 2045, we ant pate
[2:27:29]
the 5 0% of those neighborhood
[2:27:29]
areas w ill be vulnerable,
falls in within that
[2:27:37]
falls in within that
particular year.
[2:27:41]
this is in total 35 complet
neighborhood areas, 14
[2:27:46]
[inaudible] n eighborhood
areas, 888 million dollars
and
[2:27:49]
the p ump stations itself, we
annual operation and
[2:27:53]
annual operation and
maintenance c ost, the
[2:27:54]
electricity, the maintenance
for a particular period and
[2:27:58]
for t he year, we're looking
at
[2:28:02]
at least for all the projects
implemented a t once, 1.6
[2:28:05]
million d ollars of annual
operational costs.
.
[2:28:06]
inger is this slide available
is
[2:28:09]
is
there a way you c an get this
[2:28:13]
to us?
>> yes, y es, we'll work with
[2:28:17]
rhonda, I t's not available on
the website itself websinger
[2:28:23]
can work with rhonda and be
able to provide that.
[2:28:27]
>> the lower keys cost
estimate.
[2:28:28]
>> 657 million in the lower
keys.
.
[2:28:32]
inger I t's hard to see on
that.
[2:28:34]
>> yeah, up t here, it doesn't
show.
[2:28:37]
>> you can see the upper
[2:28:40]
keys,
the lower k eys, that's the
one
[2:28:45]
that had 5 -- 6z 5 mile
lower keys.
[2:28:48]
lower keys.
>> this is rhonda, I wanted
[2:28:50]
to
bring your attention the fact
[2:28:53]
there a re 35 neighborhood
areas f or this year, 2025,
[2:28:58]
you'll hear u s discuss this
[2:28:58]
when we g et to our resilient
discussion, these are t he
[2:29:04]
discussion, these are t he
neighborhood pareses we're
[2:29:09]
choosing from, from our grant
applications.
[2:29:12]
>> so, this is 2025, if
year
[2:29:15]
year
of projected vulnerability,
at
[2:29:17]
the end, you will see the
in
[2:29:20]
in
the upper keys, you c an see
[2:29:24]
less area t hat is are
anticipated by 2030, the
[2:29:26]
lower
keys, there was nothing I n
the
[2:29:29]
middle keys, you can see by
2030, that that's a n
[2:29:33]
additional 10% of t he
neighborhood areas for 2045
[2:29:37]
for a t otal of approximately
18 miles, so an initial
[2:29:41]
construction cost of 179
million and o n yule
[2:29:44]
operational c ost of 139
thousand for this area.
[2:29:47]
>> I have another question.
How do you pull the trigger
[2:29:52]
on
those dates b ecause we all
[2:29:57]
know that f looding starts a
[2:30:00]
little bit a few days a year,
year, a little more department
[2:30:04]
year, a little more department
along.
[2:30:04]
along.
Where a long that progression
[2:30:07]
did y ou say, okay, this is
problem?
[2:30:12]
problem?
Now, remember, it -- and I
[2:30:20]
now, remember, it -- and I
[2:30:23]
agree w ith you, we f it's a
[2:30:25]
dynamic, we look ted at 2045
accuracy of the lidar, that's
[2:30:28]
accuracy of the lidar, that's
the benefit o f having done
[2:30:30]
that, we were able to
identify
[2:30:31]
those low l ying areas and
look
[2:30:34]
at the information so be able
remember the roadway
[2:30:38]
remember the roadway
sometimes, they're not
plateau
[2:30:41]
in all asepses, they're vary
rid and d ifferent, with that,
[2:30:46]
we're a ble to clearly see a
those a reas, that's the main
[2:30:50]
tool we use to be able to
[2:30:52]
identify those areas and then
[2:30:53]
we pretty m uch graph them and
[2:30:56]
are able to look at by 2025
[2:30:58]
which a re the areas we're
[2:31:00]
going to be doing, we had th
[2:31:01]
total r esult, those 83 is for
reach 2045, y ou can
[2:31:04]
reach 2045, y ou can
anticipate
[2:31:05]
all those a reas will be
vulnerable.
[2:31:09]
we then started working ower
back and then because
[2:31:13]
everything doesn't happen a t
once, it happens by area or
[2:31:16]
by
time period, by 2025, bew
were
[2:31:17]
able to identify those areas
that will be impacted by
[2:31:22]
king tides, 2030 and so on,
we
[2:31:22]
worked our way up until we
got
[2:31:24]
that total.
>> let me stop you because
[2:31:27]
you're giving me ra lot of
[2:31:28]
information but I'm not sure
[2:31:31]
you g ot my question, my
the road is too much?
[2:31:36]
the road is too much?
>> no, in this particular
[2:31:40]
case, I a pologize, remember
that in o ur case here, we're
[2:31:44]
looking a t just being in the
roadway I n the direction of
[2:31:46]
the roadway overall how l ong
the
[2:31:47]
the
sea level r ise, that gives
you
[2:31:50]
more of -- you can say that's
[2:31:52]
a permanent c ondition, when
that water exceeds the
[2:31:55]
surface, you can anticipate
you're going to have water on
[2:31:59]
that roadway for longer
periods of time, the king
[2:32:00]
tide
is a more temporary condition
[2:32:03]
and t hat varies overall, but
trying to s ee when it
[2:32:06]
trying to s ee when it
exceeded
[2:32:07]
but also not to confuse you
more, groundwater I s very
[2:32:12]
important to be a ble to keep
[2:32:14]
track o f the roadways because
[2:32:16]
even though you d on't see it
affecting the structural
[2:32:20]
affecting the structural
integrity o f the roadway
[2:32:22]
eventually to collapse, t la's
important to monitor that
[2:32:26]
there, for the design, we're
looking a t whenever there
[2:32:29]
will
be flooding on the surface,
we
[2:32:35]
considered that as being
already impactful f or the
[2:32:43]
community.
>> thank you.
[2:32:46]
>> so, by 2035, we had the
[2:32:49]
upper k eys, the lower keys,
neighborhood areas, t his
[2:32:51]
neighborhood areas, t his
well,
[2:32:54]
about 18 miles again of
construction cossets and 307
[2:33:01]
construction cossets and 307
thousand in cost estimates.
[2:33:05]
the r emaining period between
2035 and 2045, we were able
[2:33:07]
to
capture here, y ou did have
[2:33:10]
project ins t he upper keys,
keys that completed alt 30%
[2:33:13]
keys that completed alt 30%
of
[2:33:16]
the neighborhood areas, I can
give you that total area that
[2:33:21]
we identified and w ith a
total
[2:33:25]
of about 738 million and 368
thousand in o peration and
[2:33:30]
maintenance, we sum up all
[2:33:31]
those values, you c an see by
includes the neighborhood
[2:33:34]
includes the neighborhood
areas, includes t he
[2:33:39]
comprehensive and t he phased
neighborhood areas, t hat's 49
[2:33:46]
neighborhood areas, t hat's 49
additional ten areas, by
[2:33:52]
additional ten areas, by
2035,
[2:33:56]
10 additional areas, that's
9.6 m illion per mile, I
[2:34:01]
believe y ou've seen before
some values was 8.8 billion,
[2:34:05]
the reason of the reduction,
identified some areas t hat
[2:34:06]
identified some areas t hat
may
[2:34:08]
not r equire a pump station
system, t hat itself translate
[2:34:13]
intros some cost savings all
throughout, there a re some
[2:34:17]
segments that's -- that's
where t hat 200 million
[2:34:19]
difference overall is
connected.
[2:34:19]
then you can see also, you
can
[2:34:23]
anticipate with all t he
projects being in place, at
[2:34:27]
least 3 million dollar annual
operation a nd maintenance
[2:34:30]
cost
as well f or the pump station
[2:34:35]
and is the operation and
maintenance.
[2:34:38]
for 2 045 in total, it's going
out
[2:34:44]
out
of the 311 miles that the
[2:34:48]
county maintains, that's 53%
countywide.
[2:34:53]
countywide.
Also along these areas, you
[2:34:57]
can f ind about -- this is
the r esidential units along
[2:35:02]
the r esidential units along
the county maintained
[2:35:05]
roadways, one o f the factors
was to find where those
[2:35:10]
residential densities a re, so
that's what we're capturing
[2:35:14]
and t hose most vulnerable
[2:35:17]
areas look at t hat to be able
any q uestions?
[2:35:23]
any q uestions?
>> I feel like I was drin
[2:35:27]
out of a fire hose, but the
[2:35:29]
bottom line I take away from
lot of money.
[2:35:32]
lot of money.
>> one thing also to look at
[2:35:35]
remember we u nderstand the
funding for all of them may
[2:35:39]
not b e done immediately, what
happens I s this gives you --
[2:35:42]
it's looking at those areas
that are vulnerable a nd the
[2:35:45]
projects that will need to b
implemented on hand, if some
[2:35:50]
projects are not being
implemented f or some period,
[2:35:51]
if they're supposed to be
done
[2:35:54]
in 2025, they c an be done at
[2:35:56]
2035, you have to look at
[2:35:58]
raising the road a little bit
[2:36:01]
more, if you want to maintain
[2:36:04]
a 2 0 year design life rather
[2:36:04]
than 2045, it will be then
higher elevation.
[2:36:07]
higher elevation.
What it will translate is t
[2:36:11]
right o f way impacts, the
higher you raise it, the more
[2:36:14]
you will have to tie back
into
[2:36:17]
the property but the idea of
[2:36:19]
the study was t o provide this
[2:36:20]
baseline basement and be able
to look a t the areas
[2:36:25]
vulnerable and that's w hy we
selected the 2045 target
[2:36:27]
year,
it's very dynamic vierm,
[2:36:27]
hopefully it doesn't get
worse
[2:36:31]
at this point as the
projections go down t he road
[2:36:36]
but I d o get updated on
point, that's where
[2:36:39]
point, that's where
information c an be replaced
[2:36:43]
and a djust how that can be
[2:36:45]
>> mr. Mayor, thank you, I
[2:36:48]
would like the make a comment
mayor brought u p.
[2:36:54]
mayor brought u p.
As we w ant to spend all thi
[2:36:59]
money t o elevate the road and
mentioned b efore because of
[2:37:03]
mentioned b efore because of
ground is so porous, these
[2:37:08]
lots are going to flood right
besides t he road, we'll be
[2:37:11]
spending millions to have
these roads elevated and
[2:37:11]
contain that water, what
[2:37:13]
about
all the lots that are so low
[2:37:17]
that are going to flood,
they're going the h ave to
[2:37:22]
elevate a nd filling lots in
they have to contain all
[2:37:24]
they have to contain all
own w ater.
[2:37:26]
own w ater.
We may be causing more
[2:37:31]
problems than we're
correcting
[2:37:34]
here with -- I think we have
[2:37:37]
to look a t this as a whole
[2:37:41]
picture and g et that
information as we evaluate
[2:37:43]
these r oads to elevate them.
>> commissioner, and we did
[2:37:45]
at
one point, we looked at what
[2:37:47]
if we p rovide also a
collection system on the side
[2:37:52]
of the road to collect the
[2:37:53]
promise that some of these
roadways you have t he low
[2:37:55]
property but the areas
between
[2:37:56]
the property if y ou have
water
[2:37:59]
come framing the backyard,
you're going to have the
[2:38:03]
elevation where you have the
pump stations operate o n a
[2:38:07]
full time capacity or you'r
point, it becomes critical,
[2:38:10]
point, it becomes critical,
that's an option there, but
[2:38:12]
if
in that particular case, so
[2:38:16]
in that particular case, so
here we're looking at first
[2:38:21]
how c an that accessibility be
maintained and be a ble to
[2:38:24]
understand because the
stormwater system, it helps
[2:38:25]
mitigate the king tides but
it
[2:38:28]
also helps not contribute to
any of that additional
[2:38:31]
flooding and be able to be
implemented but I u nderstand
[2:38:34]
your point take .and that's
will be a ble to elaborate
[2:38:38]
will be a ble to elaborate
[2:38:39]
about t hat comprehensive
approach and this I s part of
[2:38:44]
the solution, part of t he
be
[2:38:45]
be
looked at as a comprehensive
approach.
[2:38:51]
>> thank you.
>> the project website, I'll
[2:38:56]
jump in h ere, on the project,
[2:38:57]
you c an visit www .keys roads
plan.com, in there, if you
[2:39:01]
want to a ccess the maps, you
[2:39:03]
can d irectly look at the link
access button ins t he front
[2:39:06]
access button ins t he front
what are the existing roadway
[2:39:09]
what are the existing roadway
elevations in f ront of your
[2:39:12]
property also we can look at
what are those adaptation
[2:39:17]
limits we looked at, and on
see three maps, h ere in
[2:39:21]
see three maps, h ere in
[2:39:23]
summary, the map on top show
elevation, that's s howing
[2:39:25]
elevation, that's s howing
some
[2:39:28]
range, this is based on the
lidar information, you'll
[2:39:31]
find
that existing information
[2:39:32]
along the crown o f the
roadways, you will also find
[2:39:37]
the n eighborhood area
recommendations at the lower
[2:39:38]
left corner here which is
kind
[2:39:41]
of like the map t hat I showed
[2:39:43]
show casing t he neighborhood
areas that shows the
[2:39:45]
adaptation limits and a lso
you
[2:39:48]
find another map that shows
the c riticality evaluation
[2:39:53]
viewer, this is s howing you
the criticality s core for
[2:39:57]
those segments all throughout
the limits, t hose are gis
[2:39:59]
limits, those are to be view
[2:40:00]
and had t here's also a search
[2:40:02]
area where you can provide
your property address and it
[2:40:04]
will take you automatically
to
that location.
[2:40:08]
>> I just pulled it up, I
accurate.
[2:40:10]
>> also, now that's I f you
existing information, that
[2:40:13]
existing information, that
planning, but also if you
[2:40:15]
want
to look at the conceptual
[2:40:18]
plans, there's also another
call ted road adaptation
[2:40:23]
call ted road adaptation
conceptual plans, y ou click
[2:40:28]
this one and you go into a
down,
[2:40:29]
down,
it's separated by the k eys,
[2:40:31]
you h ave those 83 project
areas that I was talking
[2:40:36]
about, you can click on one,
area
[2:40:40]
area
10 which is winston
waterways,
[2:40:43]
we'll g et technical here,
you'll see a key sheet for
[2:40:48]
each one of t he project
areas,
[2:40:49]
in each key sheet, it will
give you the project
[2:40:54]
information, a quick map of
where t he pronlt area's
[2:40:57]
located, you have an index o
the roadway plans a nd what's
[2:41:00]
included there and you have a
length aof the project
[2:41:02]
overall, this is consistent
for all t he project areas, so
[2:41:07]
you h ave that cover sheet,
plan layout, this gives you
[2:41:11]
plan layout, this gives you
[2:41:13]
the way we laid out the sheet
[2:41:15]
so you can read it as we
[2:41:16]
along, we w anted to provide a
[2:41:17]
scale t hat was readable, not
that high l evel because we
[2:41:20]
could h ave had less sheets
[2:41:22]
but
it would have been hard to
[2:41:26]
read, each one of these ones
[2:41:29]
have a north arrow that help
[2:41:30]
you orient yourself, it gives
you t hat perspective of how
[2:41:32]
those plan sheets were laid
out.
[2:41:36]
you'll see in each ones, thi
is a typical sections sheet,
[2:41:39]
we tried to definitely
capture
[2:41:41]
as much as we c an those
typical conditions of the
[2:41:45]
roadways and a typical
section
[2:41:46]
may r epresent several
roadways, this represents a ll
[2:41:50]
those roadway s eg inlets
located below, sometimes it's
[2:41:53]
ao typical barrier, we added
several typical sections
[2:41:55]
where
we showed what was anticipate
[2:41:58]
today g o in that particular
area, t hat corresponds on
[2:42:03]
michelle drive, that's a
corresponding t ypical that
[2:42:06]
apply t here, there's a table
anticipated t o being elevated
[2:42:10]
anticipated t o being elevated
look at the table t hat is
[2:42:13]
look at the table t hat is
[2:42:16]
provided there and then y ou
can look at that elevation
[2:42:19]
change that is anticipated
within that particular limit
[2:42:22]
and please understand it's a
range because a t this point,
[2:42:25]
the roadway varies, s o we
provided the lower ask high
[2:42:28]
value there and t hen on the
is
[2:42:29]
is
that existing ground
elevation
[2:42:32]
at the right of w ay line, so
[2:42:35]
that gives you that
perspective and a s the
[2:42:39]
commissioner mentioned, w e
wanted to a lso understand how
[2:42:44]
the private p roperties, are
they low or high ground and
[2:42:47]
what are those numbers going
that is available there.
[2:42:52]
that is available there.
And then you'll s ee a plan
[2:42:57]
sheet that shows and if it's a
2022-06-15t11:37:28.4104479-04:00
[2:42:57]
small air ya, there will be a
it's
[2:42:59]
it's
overwhelmed with more plan
[2:43:03]
overwhelmed with more plan
you have your lenld --
[2:43:08]
you have your lenld --
legend
[2:43:12]
and a ir owe, you'll see the
the
[2:43:14]
the
cross h atch, that means
[2:43:16]
there's r econstruction and
change in t he elevation tof
[2:43:20]
roadway, that's all depict
ined the legend, if there's
[2:43:22]
any questions, we're here t o
help, with that being said,
[2:43:26]
there I s a button for
contacting us, so you can
[2:43:29]
click there and p ut your name
and I nformation, a message
[2:43:31]
and
that's received here and then
[2:43:33]
we document it as part of the
project.
[2:43:37]
with that, I'll hand it over
to erin.
[2:43:41]
>> emilio f orgot to mention
[2:43:43]
we're also working on an faq
[2:43:44]
sheet right n ow for people to
approach the website and
[2:43:49]
approach the website and
things like t hat, so they
[2:43:51]
understand what they're
actually looking at.
[2:43:55]
so, good morning, I'm here to
and implementation piece of
[2:44:00]
and implementation piece of
to
[2:44:01]
to
allude to, there's more to
[2:44:05]
this nan just the road
elevation stormwater
[2:44:08]
management piece of the
program, so t he intent of
[2:44:11]
this
particular -- o f your overall
[2:44:13]
adaptation strategy I s to
summarize y our priorities for
[2:44:17]
the road elevation and the
stormwater projects based o n
[2:44:20]
that ranking criteria and
that
[2:44:22]
process, part 2 of this is
implementation strategy
[2:44:26]
implementation strategy
associated with it and the
[2:44:29]
mayor already a lluded to
that,
[2:44:31]
there may need to be change
tos t he comprehensive plan
[2:44:36]
torx the code, I'm going to
not t oo deep into that
[2:44:38]
not t oo deep into that
because
[2:44:39]
we're going come back t o you
fall
[2:44:41]
fall
televising's a funding
discussion that obviously
[2:44:45]
needs to occur and funding
sources and t hat discussion
[2:44:50]
is
probably going to be at
[2:44:50]
multiple times throughout
this
[2:44:53]
process over the next couple
of months, so just to quickly
[2:44:58]
discuss some of the needed
policy changes, one t hing
[2:45:00]
that
establishing a roads policy
[2:45:02]
establishing a roads policy
and a l evel of service, this
[2:45:07]
is a trend right now though
south f lorida management
[2:45:09]
district for instance is
working t hrough a flood
[2:45:15]
protection level of service,
we're t alk about a flood
[2:45:19]
level
of service for ours, flasr,
[2:45:21]
that's the one.
>> what did y ou call it.
[2:45:24]
>> flooding l evel of service
want to m ake that distinction
[2:45:29]
want to m ake that distinction
is because certain mandated
[2:45:32]
levels of service that you
have in y our comprehensive
[2:45:35]
plan already, t his is not
something that's made b ut
[2:45:37]
it's
new, what we're trying to did
[2:45:38]
is be t ransparent with the
community a nd manage
[2:45:42]
expectations with t he
community a bout what they're
[2:45:44]
going t he get, and
essentially
[2:45:49]
what this would l ook like is
[2:45:52]
we are going to attempt to
[2:45:53]
stien these r oads to keep up
[2:45:55]
with future s ea level rise
conditions and king tides but
[2:45:58]
there m ay be limitations for
that, for instance, t he right
[2:46:00]
of way may not be large
enough
[2:46:01]
that we can elevate as high
as
[2:46:04]
we potentially want t o so
[2:46:05]
we're going to do the best w
[2:46:07]
can, that taoes basis of wha
[2:46:07]
that policy is going to say,
of
[2:46:11]
of
improvement but t hey may not
[2:46:14]
get 20 years sea level rise
[2:46:16]
plus king tides a ll at the
[2:46:17]
same time because there may
some constraints and then
[2:46:19]
some constraints and then
when
[2:46:22]
I say level o f service
commitment cleanup is every
[2:46:26]
comprehensive plan with local
governments I'm working w ith
[2:46:29]
right now c ommits to things
feasible with future sea
[2:46:32]
feasible with future sea
level
[2:46:34]
rise, access issues, certain
open space, l evels of
[2:46:37]
service,
bah all o f this comes
together
[2:46:40]
to realistically think about
the commitments you're making
[2:46:44]
in your comprehensive plan
through your policies a nd
[2:46:48]
whether they're achievable in
[2:46:49]
the future, a policy on road
[2:46:53]
drainage, mayor, you have
already alluded t o this also
[2:46:57]
which is this program is not
about c reating a uniform
[2:46:59]
managed stormwater system
throughout the entire county
[2:47:02]
that's going to drain private
property this is not an
[2:47:06]
urbanized area to d o that,
places like k ey west and
[2:47:08]
places like k ey west and
marathon and other places
[2:47:11]
where you h ave stormwater
structures and you have a
[2:47:13]
more
urbanized environment but
[2:47:13]
that's not what this program
is.
[2:47:17]
this program is to capture
drainage dealing with road
[2:47:21]
drainage dealing with road
elevation themselves, and a
[2:47:25]
lot o f those roads don't have
existing stormwater features
[2:47:28]
associated with t hem now bah
many of these roads without
[2:47:33]
many of these roads without
those f eatures because the
[2:47:33]
south f lorida water
management
[2:47:35]
district is never g oing to
different than creating that
[2:47:39]
different than creating that
managed system that's g oing
[2:47:41]
the drain private p roperty
and
[2:47:41]
you're right, mayor, there
are
[2:47:43]
going to be people that are
[2:47:45]
going to have a dry road and
[2:47:45]
they're going to have access
be
[2:47:48]
be
a portion o f the year that
[2:47:52]
their p roperty is under some
level of inundation and that
[2:47:57]
may -- that's going to
increase over time and at
[2:47:59]
some
point, that level of
[2:48:01]
inundation may be permanent
some properties, place ins
[2:48:04]
some properties, place ins
keys are going to see that
[2:48:09]
keys are going to see that
[2:48:10]
effect, some place ares going
to see it sooner rather th
[2:48:14]
later.
Modify the codes so w e'll
have
[2:48:16]
to modify your design
standards with regard t o road
[2:48:21]
design, fdot has this thing
call ted green book, that's
[2:48:24]
how local g overnments design
their roads a nd that's what's
[2:48:25]
referenced in your code r ight
now websinger ear going to
[2:48:28]
have to c hange that because
developing to those green
[2:48:29]
developing to those green
book
[2:48:30]
standards, you are going to
be
exceeding t hem.
[2:48:35]
review and modify your road
abandonment procedure that is
[2:48:39]
would allow y ou to consider
the future of flood risk
[2:48:41]
associated with that
particular road facility and
[2:48:43]
I
say that because as emilio
[2:48:46]
talked about in our
evaluation
[2:48:47]
process, some roads serve
more
[2:48:50]
people, s ome roads serve less
people, a nd the county may
[2:48:54]
not
maintenance obligation on t he
[2:48:56]
maintenance obligation on t he
books forever if the road
[2:49:01]
doesn't serve a l ot of
properties, a nd abandonment
[2:49:05]
may be a tool, I'm not saying
but
[2:49:07]
but
it may a z be a tool so y
[2:49:12]
don't want to m ake that
process on yourself than
[2:49:16]
absolutely necessary, funding
strategy is going to be a
[2:49:18]
longer term discussion, is
is this going t o be working
[2:49:21]
is this going t o be working
[2:49:23]
down a prioritized proj list
as you have funds available,
[2:49:28]
that's a longer term
discussion, and t hen private
[2:49:29]
property adaptation policies,
which is exactly what the
[2:49:32]
mayor already alluded t o.
I c an tell you this is a
[2:49:36]
growing t rend with local
governments right n ow, in
[2:49:39]
february, there w as a miami
harold article that the miami
[2:49:43]
dade county I s considering an
ordinance that when r a
[2:49:45]
property owner does a
substantial r enovation or
[2:49:48]
modification to their
property
[2:49:51]
they may need to bring th
property up to 6 feet in
[2:49:55]
I am working for a local
government in p alm beach
[2:49:57]
county where we a re looking
at
[2:50:00]
the s ame type of standard
[2:50:02]
where w e're going to 3.5 feet
relationship between
[2:50:05]
relationship between
elevation
[2:50:07]
of the sea walls and what
[2:50:16]
that
property needs to b e elevated
[2:50:20]
to and a portion of the
community, so this
[2:50:23]
harmonization, either
triggering, righter,
[2:50:25]
something
like that I s probably
[2:50:28]
something that needs to be
[2:50:32]
explored in t he longer term.
So, this has been a very
[2:50:37]
proactive planning approach
and s o we have the issue
[2:50:39]
countywide adaptation, roads
[2:50:42]
has been at the top o f the
[2:50:48]
list because obviously it's
access to homes, businesses,
[2:50:52]
schools, all ofz that, we ar
looking at this summer launch
[2:50:56]
ago grant p rogram on
adaptation of on the habitat
[2:50:59]
natural r esources level,
mitigating county buildings
[2:51:00]
that are potentially have you
neshl, other infrastructure,
[2:51:04]
you have the countywide
component of adaptation, and
[2:51:07]
then again as t he mayor
alluded to, what is t he
[2:51:10]
private response, what are we
going to encourage people to
[2:51:13]
do, what are we going to
to
[2:51:14]
to
allow people to do with
regard
[2:51:17]
to elevation of their
structures, l ot fill
[2:51:20]
driveways
is another thing, mr. Tl
[2:51:22]
be property owners where you
have access t o your property
[2:51:29]
you h ave an elevated
driveway,
[2:51:33]
your home is elevated, maybe
you're okay w ith your lot
[2:51:36]
being inundated part of the
[2:51:39]
year x na needs t o be
[2:51:42]
explored, and t his's true tli
going t o achieve resiliency
[2:51:47]
going t o achieve resiliency
overall with all of these
[2:51:48]
factors, this r oads project
is
[2:51:51]
the biggest thing y ou have
[2:51:53]
tackled so far but it is
story.
[2:51:57]
story.
And I t hink this is rhonda's
slide.
[2:51:59]
okay.
>> yes, t hank you, erin.
[2:52:02]
>> I'm going to pull this up
for you, rhonda.
[2:52:07]
>> okay.
>> yes.
>> thank you.
[2:52:10]
>> so, thank you, emilio and
I
[2:52:13]
I
think we met the goal of t
[2:52:15]
whole project w hen we
started,
[2:52:17]
really the goal is to h elp
yent
[2:52:20]
yent
by developing this long term
[2:52:23]
road adaptation plan, t o
mitigate these sea level rise
[2:52:27]
impacts s o if we're able to
[2:52:28]
implement the p lan and that's
going t he take funding, we
[2:52:32]
will have l ong term
resilience
[2:52:35]
here at l east for the next
more,
[2:52:39]
more,
and these were to help us
[2:52:42]
plan
the cost estimates for the
[2:52:45]
county road d epartmental plan
and s upport technical
[2:52:48]
information which we'll be
able to u se on our grant
[2:52:52]
applications, and then yet to
come, y ou heard erin talk
[2:52:55]
about, we're going to t alk
about our p rivate property
[2:52:56]
adaptation policies, we
really
[2:52:58]
need to research on how we're
still 1.6 b illion tlars,
[2:53:03]
still 1.6 b illion tlars,
that's a lot of money, gran
[2:53:06]
are not going to be able to
[2:53:09]
fund all of this, we're going
[2:53:10]
the h ave to figure out some
[2:53:13]
sources o f funding to help
build this program and then
[2:53:15]
finally y ou'll see erin and
me
[2:53:18]
again in september or so,
maybe o ctober, depends on the
[2:53:22]
storm season with our final
report and our presentation,
[2:53:25]
this is t he technical
presentation today, y ou won't
[2:53:27]
see a nother technical
I
[2:53:29]
I
thank y ou.
>> thank you, rhonda.
[2:53:36]
you know, I 'm sitting here
looking a t that 1.6 billion
[2:53:41]
dollars a nd realizing that if
majority of t hat will
[2:53:45]
majority of t hat will
probably
[2:53:48]
be grant funds and I'm
remembering back to the
[2:53:51]
almost
1 billion dollars t hat we
[2:53:57]
spent o n wastewater which we
[2:54:01]
just knew we could never do
years, we did it.
[2:54:06]
years, we did it.
We'll p robably get there or
[2:54:09]
we
will be turning o ut of a dry
[2:54:13]
road into t he lake that
[2:54:15]
constitutes o ur house, so
front o f our eyes, not
[2:54:20]
front o f our eyes, not
rapidly, but it is changing,
[2:54:25]
and probably will ko n to do
so.
[2:54:30]
so, together we'll have to
thank you very much.
[2:54:36]
thank you very much.
>> thank you.
[2:54:39]
>> your next item is on the
have
[2:54:42]
have
two public speakers signed up
[2:54:44]
for that, d iscussion and
capital project applications
[2:54:47]
capital project applications
to be submitted u nder the
[2:54:51]
resilient florida p rogram for
2022.
[2:54:53]
>> while he's bringing that
[2:54:54]
up, I'll go ahead and kick
the
[2:54:56]
the
help us w ha, you're going to
[2:55:02]
hear today is the resilient
[2:55:05]
florida program, some c hanges
that's been made in t he last
[2:55:10]
year, you s aw us in front of
implemented the grant
[2:55:13]
implemented the grant
program,
[2:55:16]
we were t rying to get road
guidelines and there's some
[2:55:20]
guidelines and there's some
new things we want to try
[2:55:21]
that
we're going to paren to you
[2:55:22]
today and w ith that, I'm
going
[2:55:26]
to go a head and ask erin to
go
[2:55:30]
ahead and s tart.
>> hello again.
[2:55:33]
this presentation is the
culmination o f a
[2:55:37]
collaboration
across multiple stab asks
[2:55:39]
conversations that have
occurred with the s tate so
[2:55:43]
I'm
here to k ind of deliver the
[2:55:45]
strategy to y ou.
So, just as a refresher,
[2:55:49]
there
are five major sections of
the
[2:55:51]
resilient florida legislation
t two s ections that we are
[2:55:55]
most focused on are the
number
[2:55:59]
1, the resilt yent florida
grant p rogram which funds
[2:56:04]
planning grants and a t some
[2:56:05]
level, it h as also been used
[2:56:07]
to fund capital projects, and
then number 3 I s the
[2:56:12]
statewide
flooding and sea level rise
[2:56:16]
resilience plan, that
level rise resilience plan --
[2:56:21]
level rise resilience plan --
screens s o whatever we're
[2:56:26]
screens s o whatever we're
seeing behind us is not on
[2:56:31]
our
screens.
Rhonda, y ou look lovely, and
[2:56:34]
rhonda, you're muted.
Er
[2:56:37]
>> t hank you, I said we'll
[2:56:40]
wait a second while they loa
you for t he compliment.
[2:56:44]
you for t he compliment.
>> number 3 there, the
[2:56:46]
statewide flooding and sea
level rise resilience plan,
[2:56:50]
this plan is compiled every
year by t he grant
[2:56:52]
applications
that are submitted to the
[2:56:54]
state by september 1 and that
[2:56:56]
plan is handed off to the
and legislative l eadership by
[2:57:01]
and legislative l eadership by
december 1 of each year and
[2:57:06]
this plan will compile all
the capital p roject grant
[2:57:09]
requests across the s tate.
And so this was the funding
[2:57:11]
mechanism for the t wo
projects
[2:57:15]
that you received last year
right p oint design, so your
[2:57:20]
right p oint design, so your
history w ith this program
[2:57:23]
predated the legislation
coming into effect in 2021,
[2:57:28]
you r eceived two grants, they
were planning related grants,
[2:57:31]
one w as to develop amendments
to the comprehensive plan
[2:57:36]
that
were required for peril flood
[2:57:40]
legislation, the other was to
update your vulnerability
[2:57:43]
adaptation, t hat work was
being done last year thaz
[2:57:46]
tha z law w as being signed
into effect.
[2:57:48]
the previous version of the
program a ppended these
[2:57:50]
planning grants at 75
thousand
[2:57:53]
dollars so it was tough t o do
[2:57:56]
the e xpanded work that you
vulnerability assessment for
[2:57:59]
vulnerability assessment for
money, when the legislation
[2:58:03]
money, when the legislation
was signed into effect, that
[2:58:07]
cap was l ifted but also came
with that legislation were
[2:58:09]
requirements for
vulnerability
basements now because the
[2:58:12]
state was r eceiving apples
and
[2:58:13]
oranges in terms of the
vulnerability assessment,
[2:58:16]
they
wanted to standardize them on
[2:58:20]
some level with new technical
specifications and I can tell
[2:58:25]
you that that costs a whole
[2:58:27]
lot m ore than 75 thousand
terms of a document, the 2021
[2:58:30]
terms of a document, the 2021
grant cycle, you received
[2:58:32]
money to update your
vulnerability assessment to
[2:58:35]
bring it into compliance with
those n ew requirements, that
[2:58:39]
project was announced I
believe may 11, there w as
[2:58:41]
also
a project on that list for
[2:58:41]
the
plan that I referenced
[2:58:44]
plan that I referenced
earlier
[2:58:47]
but t hat project was kind of
awarded previous to t hat
[2:58:50]
under
the old version of the
program
[2:58:51]
but it was on the list for
[2:58:54]
this year, and then you got
the still r ight point design
[2:58:57]
t
twin lakes elevation for that
[2:59:01]
particular road project a nd
then the harry harris
[2:59:05]
resilient d esign for that
particular park, so this is
[2:59:09]
the s uccess you've had in the
program s o far
[2:59:16]
collaboratively
across the county.
[2:59:18]
and so there were several
house b ill 1773, fdot is t
[2:59:23]
house b ill 1773, fdot is t
first state a gency that is
[2:59:26]
now
required to pull together a
[2:59:26]
resilience action plan and
the
[2:59:29]
reason that would be
important
[2:59:32]
to you is for instance maybe
resiliency projects associate
[2:59:35]
resiliency projects associate
witched that resilience
action
[2:59:37]
plan, there a re new
responsibilities for the
[2:59:41]
state's chief resilience
officer and one o f those
[2:59:44]
duties is in conjunction wit
the d epartment of
[2:59:45]
environmental protection,
they
[2:59:47]
have to produce a list of
vulnerability basements e very
[2:59:51]
year that meet those
statutory
[2:59:54]
requirements and I can tell
list as s oon as possible
[2:59:59]
list as s oon as possible
because how t hey evaluate
[3:00:00]
your
capital project , grant
[3:00:02]
submittals, a portion of that
is related to your vulnerable
[3:00:07]
assessment, so the good news
last
[3:00:08]
last
year to do that compliance
effort.
[3:00:13]
there is a new definition of
assets,
[3:00:16]
assets,
this is important because in
[3:00:19]
the g rant evaluation process,
assess that s erve more than
[3:00:23]
one local g overnment
jurisdiction are going to get
[3:00:27]
a bump in t he evaluation
process, there is also a
[3:00:32]
component for p reconstruction
funding f or small local
[3:00:34]
governments and for you,
that's you are actually not
[3:00:37]
eligible jibl for that type
of
[3:00:38]
funding because mower t a
county of less than 50
[3:00:43]
thousand, they also want to
see r ainfall pod dwelling now
[3:00:46]
associated with the
vulnerability assessment,
[3:00:48]
there have been changes t o
the
[3:00:51]
dates a s to when certain
statewide deliverables have
[3:00:55]
to
be completed, there a re more
[3:00:55]
transparency requirements
when
the s tate produces that
[3:00:59]
statewide flooding and sea
level r ise resilience plan,
[3:01:03]
they have to have a narrative
talking a bout the projects
[3:01:05]
that they s elected and why
and
[3:01:08]
the projects they did not
select and why and the
[3:01:11]
methods
by which they selected those
[3:01:15]
projects and included t hoem
after 2023, t he state wants
[3:01:19]
after 2023, t he state wants
to
[3:01:22]
see a local government have
vulnerability assessment in
[3:01:26]
compliance with these
standards f or modeling,
[3:01:30]
essentially t hey are saying
to have a tough time getting
[3:01:35]
to have a tough time getting
your capital projects highly
[3:01:39]
ranked without having that
vulnerability assessment,
[3:01:42]
there a re more eligible
entities this year, erosion
[3:01:47]
control districts, water
control d istricts, drainage
[3:01:51]
districts, so there are more
parties t hat can access th
[3:01:55]
money and there I s less money
[3:01:56]
in year for the program
overall, dep is engaged in
[3:02:00]
rule making right n ow to
develop t he criteria by which
[3:02:04]
they are going to rank the
[3:02:06]
grants, and I 'm happy to tell
you the county has been
[3:02:10]
engaged I n this process, and
so far we've yielded some
[3:02:12]
success in the rule making
effort by p roffering language
[3:02:15]
that has been adopted into
another version o f the rule,
[3:02:20]
that rule is not done yet,
competitiveness of these
[3:02:22]
competitiveness of these
grant
[3:02:23]
applications based on this
rule that I s in flight
[3:02:26]
because
it is going the tell you how
[3:02:30]
the m ake your projects more
competitive b ut we have
[3:02:35]
secured some changes to that
[3:02:35]
rule and that's a really good
the
[3:02:37]
the
picture of the state of
[3:02:41]
affairs last year and I'm
going t o walk through what's
[3:02:44]
changed.
There haven't been a lot of
[3:02:46]
changes to the planning
grants
[3:02:51]
but this year, there is
approximately 180 m illion
[3:02:56]
dollars of funding for that
that's a little bit
[3:02:58]
that's a little bit
different,
[3:02:58]
there was m ore money
available
[3:03:01]
for capital projects this
year, we have some more
[3:03:06]
limitations.
The match r equirements for
[3:03:07]
this are still a little
foggy,
[3:03:10]
it depends on how your
capital
[3:03:13]
project is funded as to
to be r equired.
[3:03:17]
to be r equired.
The s tatute requires match
for
[3:03:20]
inclusion of a project in
this
[3:03:22]
statewide flooding and sea
level rise plan, if your
[3:03:26]
project gets funded with a
different p ot of dollars,
[3:03:30]
those match r equirements may
not be part o f the evaluation
[3:03:33]
process and t here may be
others that w ant to provide
[3:03:36]
more elaboration on that, but
we
[3:03:36]
we
have right now, at least that
[3:03:40]
I h ave as presenting this to
you.
[3:03:44]
so, t his is how those pots
[3:03:47]
shake out, last y ear, they
planning grants and t hey had
[3:03:50]
planning grants and t hey had
resilience projects, the
[3:03:55]
resilience projects were fund
funded mostly with arpa
[3:03:58]
money,
there was 1 54 million dollar
[3:04:01]
list of f unding that came
outside o f that statewide sea
[3:04:04]
level rise plan pot of
dollars
[3:04:06]
and what that m eant was that
[3:04:09]
there were some projects that
[3:04:11]
were funded on that list that
[3:04:12]
there w as no match, so this
is
[3:04:14]
is
180 million dollars for t hat
[3:04:18]
plan, a s I mentioned, there
are m ore eligible entities,
[3:04:23]
there w as a statutory change
this year that essentially
[3:04:27]
said that p ot of dollars for
less than 1 00 million
[3:04:29]
less than 1 00 million
dollars,
[3:04:30]
last year, it w as a cannot be
dollars,
[3:04:34]
dollars,
so this y ear we're seeing 180
[3:04:36]
million dollars in that pot,
we're still a little unclear
[3:04:40]
as to some of the match
requirements depending on the
[3:04:44]
funding s tream and then
obviously t he application
[3:04:47]
dates h ave been adjusted to
just showing you what's
[3:04:50]
just showing you what's
changed from last year to
[3:04:53]
this
year.
So, this is w hat we know
[3:04:54]
about
some of the f unding that's
[3:04:57]
been announced in t he budget
people have information,
[3:05:02]
people have information,
please help m e out and chime
[3:05:05]
in, but 2 70 million dollars
was announced f or the
[3:05:07]
statewide flooding and sea
level rise plan but that was
[3:05:09]
for projects that were
already
[3:05:10]
awarded last year so, w hen
the
[3:05:17]
state says we've got 500
million d ollars for
[3:05:22]
resilience
this year, 270 dollars of
that
[3:05:26]
is already allocated, there's
20 million dollars from
[3:05:28]
resilience, 20 million
dollars
[3:05:30]
from revenue, that's 40
million dollars, 20 m illion
[3:05:33]
of
that we know is fwoing to g o
[3:05:36]
to planning projects, 20
of dollars that are used fo
[3:05:40]
of dollars that are used fo
match, we're a little
[3:05:44]
match, we're a little
uncertain on that, I talked
[3:05:48]
about t he 180 million dollars
for t he statewide resilience
[3:05:53]
plan, then there are other
pots of d ollars available for
[3:05:58]
regional resilience projects
like from t he compact, and
[3:05:59]
5.5
florida flood hub w hich is
[3:06:02]
florida flood hub w hich is
data gathering entity
[3:06:07]
throughout the state.
So, m atch technically within
[3:06:09]
the s tatute is required but
it's only r equired for that
[3:06:14]
one p ot of dollars from a
legal p erspective which is
[3:06:17]
that statewide flooding and
sea l evel rise resilience
[3:06:19]
plan
so, there m ay be a pot of
[3:06:21]
dollars out t here that
doesn't
[3:06:21]
require a m atch, we're still
a
[3:06:26]
little uncertain on t hat and
then obviously you have t o
[3:06:31]
submit your p rojects through
gets compiled from those
[3:06:34]
gets compiled from those
projects, there's o nly one
[3:06:39]
portal to submit your capital
projects and you don't know
[3:06:41]
what funding stream is
ultimately going to fund that
[3:06:42]
project, whether it's going
to
[3:06:44]
be included nr that statewide
plan or for instance, it was
[3:06:48]
-- last year, t here was arpa
trigger those requirements,
[3:06:49]
trigger those requirements,
so
[3:06:53]
you don't g et to dictate what
funding pot f unds your
[3:06:59]
project, you are at the will
of dep.
[3:07:03]
>> erin, real quick, are we
considered a financially
[3:07:05]
disadvantaged small
community,
we're not constrained, are
[3:07:08]
we?
No, o kay.
>> alright so, we're moving
[3:07:13]
into the grant concepts, we
have two planning grant
[3:07:17]
concepts we're looking to
present to you and the
[3:07:22]
planning grant application is
exactly 7 d ays from today, s
[3:07:25]
one o f those planning grants
is the municipal roads
[3:07:28]
planning project which is
basically t o take everything
[3:07:31]
emilio just p resented on and
through that same process and
[3:07:35]
through that same process and
[3:07:38]
the a dvantage of that is that
the similar d esign standards
[3:07:42]
the similar d esign standards
overall, and we did submit
[3:07:48]
this grant last year but it
[3:07:51]
really didn't fit n eatly into
looking f or, for planning
[3:07:54]
looking f or, for planning
grants, what they're really
[3:07:56]
prioritizing is vulnerability
assessments for communities
[3:07:58]
that have not done them ye
or
[3:08:00]
vulnerability assessments for
communities that want to come
[3:08:04]
into compliance w ith this new
statutory criteria, s o we are
[3:08:08]
going to dust off that grant
little bit more competitively
[3:08:12]
little bit more competitively
to fit more with what dep I
[3:08:14]
looking f or.
The second planning project
[3:08:17]
that we w ould like to pursue
neighborhood, this would look
[3:08:22]
neighborhood, this would look
a lot l ike the roads pilot
[3:08:27]
project that we did in
2015-16, before you l ook at
[3:08:30]
wholesale a daptation across
the c ounty overall, let's
[3:08:31]
pick
a neighborhood and look a t
[3:08:34]
that and get at some of t
[3:08:37]
issues we just talked about
that mayor rice raised, what
[3:08:39]
is adaptation look like
beyond
[3:08:40]
just roadsters and we w ould
like to potentially submit a
[3:08:45]
grant to do that in one test
that
[3:08:46]
that
so, those a re the two
[3:08:49]
so, those a re the two
planning
[3:08:53]
grants due potentially by
a
[3:08:56]
a
little bit more about assets
[3:08:59]
and w hat assets are within
this program in the statute,
[3:09:03]
there a re four different
types
[3:09:05]
of critical a ssets that are
defined w ithin the statute,
[3:09:09]
transportation and critical
infrastructure, critical
[3:09:11]
community a nd emergency
services and natural cultural
[3:09:14]
and historic resources and
reason that is important is
[3:09:19]
reason that is important is
because the g rant criteria,
[3:09:24]
the p roject criteria
overwhelmingly prefers
[3:09:26]
projects that look at
critical
[3:09:28]
assets, a dapt critical
assets,
or protect critical assets.
[3:09:33]
I'm going the talk a little
bit more about that.
[3:09:38]
now, the definition does not
say t hat critical assets have
[3:09:43]
to be publicly owned, but
statute w here in your
[3:09:45]
statute w here in your
vulnerable assessment, you
[3:09:48]
have to I dentify all of the
critical assets that are
[3:09:51]
owned
and maintained by the local
[3:09:55]
government, s o it's pretty
overwhelmingly preferring
[3:09:59]
overwhelmingly preferring
assets as part of the grant
[3:10:04]
assets as part of the grant
I j ust said that.
[3:10:08]
I j ust said that.
Okay.
[3:10:11]
so, t alking about the scope
of
[3:10:13]
the c apital projects, again,
I
[3:10:17]
talked about critical assets,
owned and maintained, but I n
[3:10:20]
the c ritical assets
definition, you a lso have
[3:10:23]
hospitals w hich is not
something t hat is necessarily
[3:10:27]
publicly owned but points are
assessed within the ranking
[3:10:32]
program as to how well a
project a ddresses risk,
[3:10:36]
projects that reduce risk in
areas w ith an overall higher
[3:10:39]
percentage of critical assets
protected, so I f your project
[3:10:43]
gets a lot of bang for bu
publicly
[3:10:44]
publicly
owned things at o ne time,
that
[3:10:47]
project is obviously going to
rank higher.
[3:10:51]
there is -- t here are
criteria
[3:10:55]
related to how well the
project a lleviates up land
[3:10:58]
damage, whether n ature base
features, whether or not the
[3:11:03]
project I s cost effective an
if the local government is
[3:11:05]
financially constrained so
there is a lot of different
[3:11:10]
criteria to evaluate these
projects, so what we are
[3:11:11]
doing
collectively through the
[3:11:14]
departments is talking about
how to make those projects as
[3:11:17]
competitive as possible, for
instance, is there a project
[3:11:20]
where w e can add nature ba
[3:11:22]
features and get more points,
projects is y ou're really
[3:11:25]
projects is y ou're really
constrained in the
[3:11:27]
right-of-way and in t erms of
[3:11:29]
how you have to manage the
[3:11:31]
money so there's not a lot of
[3:11:33]
nature based features y ou can
those points are probably not
[3:11:37]
those points are probably not
available to certain types of
[3:11:42]
projects that you m ay v so up
[3:11:44]
to 36 p oints out of 100 in
[3:11:46]
this program are related to
how w ell your vulnerability
[3:11:49]
assessment identifies your
critical assets, identifies
[3:11:53]
how at risk they are and ho
your potential project
[3:11:58]
addresses t hat risk, that's a
the p rogram are related to
[3:12:01]
the p rogram are related to
[3:12:02]
whether or not you have match
has previously funded a
[3:12:06]
has previously funded a
component o f the program, for
[3:12:09]
instance, if there was a
project w here you received
[3:12:13]
money f or design and now you
construction, you will get
[3:12:15]
construction, you will get
some additional points for
[3:12:17]
that because the state has
already m ade an investment
[3:12:20]
there and f unded the project
previously, so that's
[3:12:24]
something t o consider that
almost 50% of the criteria
[3:12:27]
are
related to these two key
[3:12:30]
elements about characterizing
so, these a re the capital
[3:12:36]
so, these a re the capital
grant concepts that w e are
[3:12:41]
talking about, number one is
[3:12:43]
roads projects, t here are 15
[3:12:45]
of them w e have listed and
[3:12:48]
we'll talk a little bit more
[3:12:49]
about t hat, they total 302
million dollars a nd just for
[3:12:53]
discussion purposes, a cost
share of 50% cost share of
[3:12:57]
those p rojects would be --
should be a bout 150 million
[3:13:00]
should be a bout 150 million
dollars I nstead of 190, then
[3:13:03]
we talk a bout -- we have
three
[3:13:08]
shore l ine related projects,
the duck key break water t
[3:13:13]
long key living shore line
2022-06-15t12:07:46.4459340-04:00
[3:13:12]
2022-06-15t12:07:46.4459340-04:00
nod s hore line project, I
want
[3:13:16]
to talk a minute about the
differences that I just
[3:13:21]
described to you about
critical assets that are pub
[3:13:25]
luckily o pened and maintained
and p rotect critical assets
[3:13:28]
that are publicly owned and
maintained like t he long key
[3:13:30]
living shore line project,
you
[3:13:31]
own t hat property you own
that
[3:13:35]
shore line so I f you did a
[3:13:37]
shore line protective project
there, it w ould be protecting
[3:13:40]
your trance for station w hich
asset, so a project like that
[3:13:46]
asset, so a project like that
is going to rank higher
[3:13:51]
because y ou are protecting
publicly owned and maintained
[3:13:55]
critical assets.
So, I had a list, I'm sorry
[3:13:57]
it
was small, I wanted to get as
[3:13:59]
many I could on each slide
but
[3:14:03]
basically we have taken the
ranked list as rhonda
[3:14:08]
described in the first 2025
timeframe a nd we've pulled 15
[3:14:13]
projects out of that list and
[3:14:16]
so we're talking about, okay,
[3:14:16]
if we k ind of pull the first
[3:14:19]
15 out of that five year
increment, what would c hose
[3:14:22]
projects be, so we got th
[3:14:23]
pronlt area number there but
ranking s core or anything
[3:14:25]
ranking s core or anything
like
[3:14:30]
that, that's just to identify
the project I n the overall
[3:14:35]
plan, I have the l epg, th
[3:14:36]
fee, the cost f a 50% mat
was s omething the county
[3:14:38]
wanted to t hrow into the
application, these are the
[3:14:42]
application, these are the
costs, so I can provide th
[3:14:47]
list and we can talk about
[3:14:53]
them, I knower there may be
[3:14:56]
one or two pros that may c
[3:14:57]
off this list for logistical
reasons, judy m ay want to
[3:15:00]
weigh in op that issue and we
[3:15:03]
would move further down the
number, 15 projects is 22.23
[3:15:07]
number, 15 projects is 22.23
miles at 302 million dollars
[3:15:10]
and t hat should be 150
[3:15:13]
million
reason, I s crewed that up, so
[3:15:18]
reason, I s crewed that up, so
[3:15:21]
this is approximately 41% of
your total road project costs
[3:15:24]
by 2025, that number that
would n eed for roads
[3:15:28]
would n eed for roads
vulnerable by 2 025, these
[3:15:31]
grantees if you submitted
these 15 projects w ould be
[3:15:35]
41%
of that number and roman m
[3:15:38]
wan to speak to this issue
[3:15:41]
about the penny s ales tax and
[3:15:43]
what that can generate in the
context of match, m aybe I
[3:15:45]
should let you do that if you
want to.
[3:15:47]
>> no, go ahead, you can
abit.
.
[3:15:49]
inger well, this I think is
--
[3:15:53]
yeah, so I'm going the ask a
some direction here.
[3:15:57]
some direction here.
The f irst question there is
[3:15:59]
the t wo planning projects
that
[3:16:01]
I outlined for dwrou, the
municipal roads planning
[3:16:04]
project and t he neighborhood
adaptation project, we would
[3:16:07]
like your d irection to go
ahead and a pply for those
[3:16:09]
because we have a w eek to do
it.
[3:16:12]
the s econd one is --
>> can you go through them
[3:16:15]
one
by one or do you want to lay
[3:16:16]
them all out, I d on't know,
or
[3:16:19]
do you need them all out a
we pick from there.
[3:16:22]
>> the planning projects are
easy because they don't
[3:16:25]
require a match, it's pretty
or
[3:16:25]
or
not.
[3:16:28]
>> I would say yes, they seem
pretty inexpensive but
[3:16:31]
useful.
>> okay.
[3:16:34]
I mean, w e can take bha fr
take
[3:16:39]
take
projects t duck key proj, t
[3:16:44]
projects t duck key proj, t
long key transfer station
[3:16:49]
project t w ink, blink k and
nodder prorjts all three
[3:16:52]
shore
yes
[3:16:53]
yes
or no on the match.
[3:16:58]
>> so, mayor, I did a li
[3:17:03]
research with rhonda on this,
that would be protecting --
[3:17:08]
that would be protecting --
correct m e if I'm wrong,
[3:17:11]
rhonda, private property.
>> the duck key one, so t
[3:17:13]
two break w ater projects,
they're g ood resilient
[3:17:16]
projects and a break water
repair would help protect the
[3:17:20]
homes but t hey are private
homes s o we probably wouldn't
[3:17:25]
score as well o n those since
they're n ot protecting that
[3:17:28]
critical feign structure that
you heard e rin discuss
[3:17:29]
earlier.
>> I think that's an
important
[3:17:34]
component t o consider,
perhaps
[3:17:36]
not submitting it, even
though
[3:17:39]
very important areas but --
>> wla's the harm in
[3:17:44]
submitting it?
>> well, are they matching
it,
[3:17:46]
are we not going to match it,
other - -
[3:17:49]
other - -
>> would the neighborhood
come
[3:17:54]
up with s ome money, that's an
unanswered question o n that
[3:17:58]
particular proj.
Substantial wastewater
[3:18:01]
substantial wastewater
has that be eliminated with
[3:18:05]
has that be eliminated with
the p roject?
[3:18:09]
>> it's not eliminated from
consideration and some of
[3:18:13]
this
comes down to how well we
[3:18:15]
write up the grant
applications and what is
[3:18:17]
potentially protected, but
the most part, you done own
[3:18:21]
the most part, you done own
[3:18:24]
the shore l ine, so that shore
[3:18:25]
line is not really adapting a
[3:18:27]
critical asset per se b ut it
critical assets w ithin the
[3:18:30]
critical assets w ithin the
>> I'm sure you'll write up a
[3:18:36]
>> I'm sure you'll write up a
beautiful application, so we
[3:18:41]
can take that for granted.
Think there a re some
[3:18:44]
think there a re some
the duck key and the long key
[3:18:49]
the duck key and the long key
there h ave been any
[3:18:53]
there h ave been any
conceptual
[3:18:54]
dollars associated with t he
other o ne yet but again, the
[3:18:58]
good news is only those
planning projects have to b e
[3:19:02]
submitted in a week, we have
[3:19:03]
until september 1 for these
other o nes that we're now
[3:19:06]
discussing the capital
projects, s o there's time.
[3:19:10]
>> yeah, good point, today w
[3:19:11]
wanted to g o over that full
[3:19:13]
concept of do you really want
of road elevation projects,
[3:19:16]
of road elevation projects,
are you c omfortable with
[3:19:18]
that,
so the list we showed earlier
[3:19:19]
isn't necessarily the f inal
list, we can come back in
[3:19:24]
july
with once we have a little
[3:19:28]
more time t o spend on these,
application, you see two
[3:19:30]
application, you see two
items
[3:19:35]
on the agenda that were bulk
approved, there's s o much
[3:19:40]
information required so I
that, we can come back in
[3:19:42]
that, we can come back in
july
[3:19:43]
with a more detailed plan of
[3:19:45]
what we want to do, we want
[3:19:46]
to go t hrough the concepts
today a nd the planning grants
[3:19:49]
because those h ave to be
submitted.
.
[3:19:53]
er before w e can make that
we're
[3:19:57]
we're
going to have t o have some
[3:20:00]
substantial staff input o n
able to match because that
[3:20:06]
able to match because that
[3:20:09]
seems to be one of the majo
[3:20:10]
factors I n whether we apply,
for
[3:20:14]
for
grants that w e would not be
[3:20:17]
able to match , so we need
some
[3:20:19]
help there.
>> one thing just to tie this
[3:20:23]
up and then y ou can move into
[3:20:24]
that discussion, so, here a re
up
[3:20:27]
up
[3:20:30]
there b efore and if you were
[3:20:34]
looking at say 30 million
dollars worth of match, you
[3:20:39]
could I dentify these three
projects, t he tavernier ocean
[3:20:40]
shores, t he [inaudible],
those
[3:20:43]
total 30 million dollars in
number,
[3:20:47]
number,
then you can balance any of
[3:20:51]
the s hore line prints and any
[3:20:53]
of the road projects and then
for y ou.
[3:20:56]
for y ou.
>> well, but what I'm saying
[3:20:58]
is we c an't set a number.
>> no.
[3:21:02]
>> we d on't have the
explanation for that number.
[3:21:04]
.
Er that would b e the
[3:21:06]
extension, right, 30 million?
>> yes, and again, remember
[3:21:10]
when she was saying it's
still
[3:21:12]
unclear as far as matching
versus not matching, I could
[3:21:15]
tell you my conversations
with
[3:21:16]
leadership in tallahassee,
they want t o know the extent
[3:21:21]
of what needs t o be done in
[3:21:24]
the state and unless we give
[3:21:25]
them the numbers and apply,
they're not going t o know
[3:21:28]
that, so that's the
uncertainty of this whole
[3:21:31]
thing, I would love for them
[3:21:33]
to say, yeah, here's 150
million d ollars, go find 15
[3:21:38]
million dollars, you know, I
doubt that's going to happen
[3:21:39]
but somehow w e'll find
another
[3:21:39]
150 million dollars if we
have
[3:21:42]
to, but they need to know the
we've
[3:21:45]
we've
put into this so our
[3:21:48]
recommendation is o bviously
the first t hree, we can do
[3:21:52]
that but let's go ahead and
submit everything a nd move
[3:21:55]
forward a nd give tallahassee
a
[3:21:59]
good report o n where we're at
[3:22:01]
because we are -- I think we
[3:22:03]
are ahead o f the game, nobody
else has done this much.
[3:22:06]
>> what do you mean by done
this much?
[3:22:08]
>> as far as going into s
much detail.
[3:22:11]
>> no, not to my knowledge.
>> so, we're really at the
[3:22:19]
top
of the spear here and we need
[3:22:23]
to present all this to hall
has -- tallahassee.
[3:22:26]
>> as we should be.
>> it's h ard to make
[3:22:30]
decisions
direction w ith hypothetical,
[3:22:35]
direction w ith hypothetical,
so -- a nd I like that the top
[3:22:40]
three, the tavernier, I like
that they're regionally
[3:22:42]
chosen
if you will.
[3:22:44]
do you need a decision, I'm
from
[3:22:47]
from
us today ?frjt really the top
[3:22:51]
one today, then we can --
like
[3:22:56]
rhonda says, we can come back
aren't due until september.
[3:23:01]
aren't due until september.
>> the only t hing I would add
[3:23:02]
--
>> right.
[3:23:08]
>> right.
Correct.
>> [inaudible].
[3:23:13]
[inaudible].
>> who's talking?
>> [inaudible].
[3:23:17]
>> and remember what happened
last year, yeah, one more
[3:23:22]
point, what h appened last
year, w e didn't apply because
[3:23:25]
of the match constraint and
other folks g ot money that
[3:23:29]
didn't --
there w as 16z prompting.
[3:23:31]
there w as 16z prompting.
Knowledge at the present time
[3:23:36]
knowledge at the present time
the prudent action is to
[3:23:40]
the prudent action is to
apply
[3:23:44]
because as those gaps fill
in,
[3:23:46]
it may be I n our benefit to
be
[3:23:48]
in the game.
>> exactly.
[3:23:52]
>> I didn't figure it was a
[3:23:55]
accident that those top three
represent one project I n the
[3:23:58]
lower keys, m iddle keys and
upper k eys, nice choosing,
[3:24:01]
roman.
>> it wasn't me, I can't
[3:24:03]
credit for that.
>> do y ou need direction on
[3:24:07]
matching or not matching the
>> we n eed direction on that.
[3:24:12]
>> we n eed direction on that.
To this, again, the projects
[3:24:17]
to this, again, the projects
rank higher I f they are
[3:24:20]
identified in your
vulnerability assessment,
some
[3:24:21]
are, some a re not, the roads
the
[3:24:26]
the
roads p lan also doesn't meet
[3:24:29]
all the s tate criteria for a
vulnerability basement, a ses
[3:24:34]
-- assessment so what we are
[3:24:35]
going to do is an atenbacker
pen dix t o your vulnerability
[3:24:38]
assessment to support a ll
these projects with some
[3:24:40]
modeling and some mapping.
We need time to do that, so
[3:24:43]
if
we could get some direction
[3:24:43]
from you today to go forth
and
[3:24:45]
do that, we c an at least
start
[3:24:49]
that process.
>> well, I believe we have
[3:24:51]
some public s peakers, am I
[3:24:53]
correct?
Jethon, do you have anybody
[3:24:58]
jethon, do you have anybody
with their hand raised?
[3:25:02]
>> [inaudible] with their
hand raised.
[3:25:07]
>> uz t hat a no or a yes?
[3:25:10]
>> there are no hands raised.
[3:25:12]
>> your first speaker will
by
[3:25:38]
by
marrow garcia.
-- mario garcia.
[3:25:44]
>> while they're getting set
workshop on t his?
[3:25:49]
workshop on t his?
I feel like this is an
[3:25:54]
enormous amount of
that you're a sking us to
[3:26:03]
that you're a sking us to
[3:26:06]
digest in an hour and I th
[3:26:08]
for u s to get feedback fro
[3:26:09]
constituents and just for us,
lot of this right now.
[3:26:13]
lot of this right now.
[3:26:14]
and I s ay that I know you've
little
[3:26:18]
little
spoonfuls for y ears now but
[3:26:21]
we're now at the point we
have
[3:26:23]
new commissioners, we h ave
new
[3:26:25]
information on this a nd the
funding a nd I think this
[3:26:29]
takes
more than just an hour of our
[3:26:31]
time right now.
To do that?
[3:26:35]
to do that?
>> can we do it on zoom?
[3:26:39]
>> on z oom, hybrid?
>> yes, just so we can all be
[3:26:42]
more available than normal.
>> sure.
[3:26:45]
>> do w e have to do it fair
[3:26:48]
soon because the applications
are due s eptember 1 and
[3:26:51]
they're complex s o we need
direction on which ones to
[3:26:53]
move forward, we can't wait
too long.
[3:26:56]
er ffrnlt w e're going to be
option unless it's
[3:27:00]
option unless it's
extraordinary circumstances.
[3:27:03]
>> okay, I mean, I know we
everyone's summer schedules.
[3:27:07]
everyone's summer schedules.
>> I think we do need to f
[3:27:11]
out s ome of the blanks in ou
[3:27:13]
knowledge, some o f them there
[3:27:13]
is no knowledge t o fill those
we
[3:27:16]
we
have to r ecognize that, we
can
[3:27:21]
workshop it all w e want but
[3:27:24]
when there is no information
and it's a fluid process,
[3:27:26]
we're not going t o get those
blanks filled in.
[3:27:31]
I t hink the prudent thing to
probably
[3:27:32]
probably
do what staff would like us
[3:27:34]
to
do is a pprove the three top,
[3:27:38]
we can always do a project
or
[3:27:42]
we can always stop if we s
reasons t o do that.
[3:27:47]
we're n ot 100% committed to
doing that project prior to
[3:27:52]
having all that information
in
[3:27:55]
in
a timely fashion, we be --
[3:27:59]
won't b e in the game and we
money.
[3:28:00]
money.
I t hink we always want to
have
[3:28:03]
a chance at b ring ining out
of
[3:28:06]
county money to help pay for
these expensive p rojects.
[3:28:11]
>> well, that's u nderstood.
>> yeah, I didn't think
[3:28:13]
anybody didn't understand it,
[3:28:17]
but I think w e have to be
[3:28:20]
there, we have to -- we hav
[3:28:22]
to take s ome steps that are
[3:28:24]
preliminary s teps that we can
always back away from if
[3:28:29]
reasons develop w hy we
shouldn't p roceed but if we
[3:28:33]
don't t ake those steps early
[3:28:35]
on, we won't get a chance t
[3:28:36]
make that decision later
because w e won't be in the
[3:28:42]
game websinger won't have a ny
money o n the table.
[3:28:46]
so, t hat's my only comment.
It is an exceedingly complex
[3:28:50]
area, I c ertainly would
welcome a workshop but I
[3:28:53]
think
discussions on a timeline
[3:28:57]
discussions on a timeline
that
[3:29:01]
we're looking at that for the
necessary.
[3:29:02]
necessary.
>> absolutely, and I didn't
[3:29:08]
mean to I mply that we
wouldn't
[3:29:11]
be making some decisions
today, I think at some point
[3:29:15]
have a workshop to educate
our
[3:29:16]
rez dens what we're doing
might be beneficial.
[3:29:20]
>> or in the interim, I k
[3:29:21]
we're going come back and
revisit t his in july, could
[3:29:24]
we
in the meantime if you need
[3:29:24]
decisions to move forward
with
[3:29:28]
the top t hree and then just
get us information between
[3:29:32]
now
>> maybe we can, I guess
[3:29:36]
>> maybe we can, I guess
[3:29:39]
information c omes to us from
forces that w e do not control
[3:29:42]
,
so maybe we w ill, maybe we
[3:29:45]
woen on that timeline.
>> commissioner scholl, do
[3:29:46]
you
want to say something?
[3:29:49]
>> I like what roman said
gaps
[3:29:51]
gaps
in the information but we
need
[3:29:54]
to absolutely be in the g ame
tallahassee
[3:29:58]
tallahassee
whether w e know whether
[3:30:02]
whether w e know whether
there's going to be match o r
[3:30:07]
not and when I was talking
[3:30:07]
with rhonda, she made a point
[3:30:08]
that the last round of
was supposed to h ave match
[3:30:11]
was supposed to h ave match
but
[3:30:15]
then they c hanged the rules
and doled o ut money without
[3:30:19]
match, so I f you give them a
[3:30:20]
large l ist of projects and
[3:30:22]
they end up with a whole
[3:30:24]
bufrnl of m oney and say you
[3:30:25]
have to match these, you c
[3:30:25]
also refuse a grant if you
[3:30:27]
can't fund it, but you have
be in the game.
[3:30:31]
be in the game.
>> yeah.
>> if I may?
[3:30:38]
>> let's go ahead with publ
[3:30:42]
comments, if you could start
kind of w here you live.
[3:30:46]
kind of w here you live.
>> okay, first of all, excuse
[3:30:49]
my nervousness, t his is the
first time that I can
[3:30:53]
approach
[3:30:56]
the county commissioners, my
part of the board of
[3:31:03]
part of the board of
directors
[3:31:07]
for w ink, blink and nod,
[3:31:09]
mario a nd I are part of t
[3:31:11]
board o f directors for wink,
blink and nod, thank you,
[3:31:13]
rhonda, for g uiding us
through
[3:31:17]
this process.
Our c ommunity consists of
[3:31:20]
about 86 lots, I shared some
[3:31:23]
pictures of t he damage to the
hurricane I rma with the
[3:31:26]
hurricane I rma with the
commissioners.
[3:31:33]
we lost about 6-8 feet of
jetty, while I completely
[3:31:38]
understand this I s a private
community, we don't have
[3:31:41]
gates
or fences and w hat we are
[3:31:45]
requesting is for us to be
considered in this
[3:31:49]
application.
Iz completely understand your
[3:31:49]
position from abacker county
commissioners and I r espect
[3:31:52]
it
because having worked f or
carp
[3:31:58]
rat america, if you don't p ut
[3:32:01]
in your application f or the
budget, you a re not in
[3:32:05]
consideration, you can always
pivot as needed, whether you
[3:32:11]
pivot as needed, whether you
[3:32:15]
get it or you don't, so, ou
[3:32:18]
challenge is that we lost 6
[3:32:20]
feet of j etty and that is o
[3:32:23]
the m ain canal and while tha
[3:32:25]
storm s urge took down those
boulders that were there, I
[3:32:29]
actually goes u p the main
canal a nd would go right
[3:32:32]
across u.s. 1 a nd the
it is o ur private community,
[3:32:34]
it is o ur private community,
I
[3:32:36]
aom -- I'm not going to
dephi
[3:32:40]
that but when t he storm surge
comes through, it doesn't
[3:32:44]
distinguish between p ublic
private land, I t treats them
[3:32:49]
private land, I t treats them
all the s ame.
[3:32:53]
and o ur ask is -- I know I
[3:32:56]
went through years ago, but
our community, most o f our
[3:33:00]
neighbors s pent their time
fixing their own properties
[3:33:03]
ask t rying to recover from
[3:33:04]
that, a s a board of director
[3:33:05]
elected a cup of years ago,
[3:33:08]
we
picked this up from the
[3:33:13]
previous board, s o my first
estimates
[3:33:19]
estimates
, rhonda provided a l ot of
[3:33:25]
guidance and I got a verbal
[3:33:28]
estimate from ltl, I got an
[3:33:30]
e-mail from t hem that they
800, maybe a thousand tons o
[3:33:35]
800, maybe a thousand tons o
material, they could do it
[3:33:39]
within 3-5 weeks and it would
thousand dollars, sorry,
[3:33:42]
thousand dollars, sorry,
rhonda, I g ot that late
[3:33:50]
yesterday a fternoon from atl
diversified f rom clinton
[3:33:54]
hodges, so our request is for
county, I t protects our
[3:33:58]
county, I t protects our
community b ut it also
[3:33:59]
protects
is are right on u .s. 1, we
[3:34:02]
is are right on u .s. 1, we
are
[3:34:06]
across from buttonwood bay on
[3:34:08]
the ocean side and I'm sorry
[3:34:10]
if I went too fast, I was a
[3:34:12]
little bit nervous.
>> you did very well.
[3:34:17]
>> anything e lse?
>> so, we would just like
[3:34:24]
be part o f the application,
duck key is also private,
[3:34:29]
right, we're private but like
I s aid, a storm sewerageurge
[3:34:31]
comes through, it doesn't say
this is public, this is
[3:34:33]
private, we're going to go
through that area, it hits
[3:34:37]
everywhere, and o ur main
canal, our jetty f ewe look
[3:34:38]
at
that picture, it took the
[3:34:41]
brun
[3:34:46]
of the hit for the main cana
[3:34:49]
and right up that canal goes
[3:34:52]
out t o a barbershop, an art
office, o kay, any questions?
[3:34:54]
office, o kay, any questions?
Sorry.
>> mr. Mayor?
[3:34:57]
>> I think you covered it
very
[3:34:59]
well, thank you so much.
>> I have a couple of
[3:35:04]
comments, m r. Mayor, I'm well
issue, it's my district, I
[3:35:07]
issue, it's my district, I
[3:35:06]
would ask of you if y ou want
a
[3:35:09]
a
very important and critical
[3:35:10]
project right there I n that
neighborhood, would you a ll
[3:35:13]
be
the g ame?
[3:35:16]
the g ame?
Because we're ging to g o to
[3:35:20]
the state a nd ask for these
[3:35:23]
taxpayer resources for a
maybe go back to your board
[3:35:29]
maybe go back to your board
[3:35:32]
and y our members and discuss
this f we were to considering
[3:35:34]
this, w ould you all be
willing
[3:35:37]
to have some skin in the game?
Representative holly, and I
[3:35:41]
representative holly, and I
am
[3:35:43]
basically where the m ayor was
speaking a minute ago, if we
[3:35:47]
don't apply, we don't know
and
[3:35:49]
what you come back with, if
we
[3:35:53]
have -- we are willing to
contribute on our behalf,
[3:35:57]
right, to h elp this out, how
[3:35:59]
much that is, how much we can
[3:36:00]
gather, how w e go about
funding, we d on't know, but
[3:36:02]
if
we didn't come in front of
[3:36:04]
you
today, we wouldn't even have
[3:36:06]
that chance, so I guess my
[3:36:07]
answer is on behalf of the
community, this is something
[3:36:12]
community, this is something
[3:36:13]
we would take up if you cam
[3:36:17]
to us a nd said you have a
it to our membership.
[3:36:19]
it to our membership.
Did that provide an answer?
[3:36:21]
>> yes sx, you did a
wonderful
[3:36:24]
job presenting by the w ay.
>> apologies, I did not
[3:36:27]
prepare material, a deck or
anything else, I hope the
[3:36:31]
pictures show the extent of
the d elay from hurricane irma
[3:36:36]
the d elay from hurricane irma
is most of our property
[3:36:39]
owners
were handling t heir own
[3:36:39]
damages for t wo or three
after t hat.
[3:36:47]
after t hat.
>> thank you so much.
>> okay.
[3:36:52]
>> I'm mario garcia, from
wink, b link and nod, and
[3:36:57]
mayor, thank you for the mind
[3:36:58]
set of trying to get
everything in, in o ne shot,
[3:37:01]
that's the way to g o on this,
[3:37:02]
I was p leasantly surprised to
docket
[3:37:03]
docket
up there, I was n ot aware of
[3:37:07]
that, that was good.
Andy is v ery well spoken, I
[3:37:12]
don't have much to add other
than this break water
[3:37:15]
situation in our little
community which we call o ur
[3:37:16]
slice o f paradise, it's
really
[3:37:19]
hot ticket item for us and I
thing
[3:37:22]
thing
that andy said in r egards to
[3:37:26]
participation, we'll do
whatever it t akes if it's
[3:37:28]
reasonable, ba tl 's all
sortser of people that live
[3:37:32]
there, but whatever we can do
try
[3:37:33]
try
to the best o f our ability
[3:37:35]
and
I don't want to beat a dead
[3:37:38]
horse, I think he spoke well
thank
[3:37:39]
thank
today.
[3:37:45]
today.
>> thank you for coming.
[3:37:50]
>> thank you for coming.
>> he w as the final speaker.
[3:38:01]
>>on, so what drk -- okay,
so
[3:38:05]
what do we need a t this point.
Everything and --
[3:38:07]
everything and --
>> I think I was talking to
[3:38:10]
erin, w e thought we'll wait
to
[3:38:13]
july to move forward but she
projects ready.
[3:38:18]
projects ready.
>> I understand the magnitude
[3:38:22]
from today until the material
[3:38:25]
is ready for application.
[3:38:28]
>> august 3 1.
Time off of that because it
[3:38:33]
time off of that because it
[3:38:37]
gets impossible after a while.
A motion, somebody.
[3:38:41]
a motion, somebody.
Approve t he planning
[3:38:43]
approve t he planning
projects,
[3:38:46]
the s hore line projects and
the road projects?
[3:38:48]
>> the top three.
[3:38:52]
.
Three, isn't it?
[3:38:58]
three, isn't it?
>> no, all of them.
[3:39:03]
>> so, the 15 road projects
as
[3:39:07]
well as the three shore line
key transfer station and the
[3:39:13]
key transfer station and the
as the planning projects for
[3:39:18]
as the planning projects for
the m unicipal roads and the
[3:39:19]
neighborhood adaptation plan.
>> yes.
[3:39:19]
>> so, that would b e the
motion.
[3:39:22]
>> that s hould require a
small
[3:39:25]
army of grant writers I would
say.
[3:39:28]
>> you're l ooking at her.
>> [laughter], wow.
[3:39:31]
>> and emilio.
>> did I just include
[3:39:34]
everything that needed to be
[3:39:37]
in that m otion?
>> well, I think what staff
[3:39:41]
was trying to point o ut that
[3:39:43]
the first three a re going to
[3:39:45]
have matches or apply to the
[3:39:46]
with matches, and t hen the
other o nes, we're not, so
[3:39:49]
that's clear the way that
presented.
[3:39:52]
presented.
>> so, I would like to just
[3:39:56]
make a note that list tof 15,
[3:39:57]
there might be some tweak tos
[3:39:57]
one or two of the projects on
[3:39:59]
that list, we may need
substitutions and we can
[3:40:02]
certainly report that, we
haven't had a chance to --
[3:40:04]
>> go a head.
>> I was going to say which
[3:40:07]
is
fine, you k now, to make
tweaks
[3:40:10]
in july but we need to start
[3:40:11]
the p rocess of modeling and
going.
[3:40:12]
going.
>> I'll second the motion.
[3:40:14]
>> we h ave a motion, do we
>> second.
[3:40:20]
>> second.
[3:40:23]
>> we h ave a second.
So, we're g oing to bite off
[3:40:29]
so, we're g oing to bite off
[3:40:32]
the b ig chunk, we're going t
[3:40:35]
adjust it a t a later date, if
[3:40:38]
we get funding and there are
[3:40:41]
reasons why w e see that we
[3:40:44]
could not o r should not
proceed, we can always not
[3:40:49]
proceed but I think this does
receiving funding because I f
[3:40:53]
receiving funding because I f
you don't a sk, you don't get.
[3:40:57]
>> may yo, this reminds me 1
conversation and the
[3:41:02]
conversation and the
uncertainty I n the room, the
[3:41:05]
almost fear in the room to
start talking absea l evel
[3:41:07]
rise
and adaptation and all that
[3:41:08]
stuff, you remember y ou had
some colleagues back then
[3:41:10]
that
didn't want to have this
[3:41:13]
conversation and here we are
talking a bout that we're
[3:41:16]
talking a bout that we're
studying it b ut we're going
[3:41:18]
to
do something about it, so
[3:41:20]
thank you f or your leadership
on that.
[3:41:24]
>> certainly, certainly.
I look back o ver the years, I
[3:41:28]
remember when there w as fear
in the county that we
[3:41:31]
couldn't
afford a paid group of
firemen
[3:41:35]
to replace our volunteers.
I r emember the trepidation
[3:41:39]
and
we have accomplished.
[3:41:45]
we have accomplished.
[3:41:48]
it takes time and you have t
[3:41:52]
bite it o ff a piece at a ti
[3:41:55]
but we have a history of
[3:41:57]
getting where we need to go
support f rom other resources
[3:42:01]
support f rom other resources
outside the c ounty, so we
[3:42:04]
always appreciate t hat.
>> so, this was not my last
[3:42:06]
slide, this w as my last
slide,
[3:42:07]
I thought I m ight need this
avoid anybody t hrowing
[3:42:11]
avoid anybody t hrowing
anything at me, b ut --
[3:42:16]
>> okay, well, I guess --
direction we need, thank you.
[3:42:20]
direction we need, thank you.
>> okay.
[3:42:21]
skfrjts mayor, there was no
opposition to that motion,
[3:42:25]
crediting?
>> -- c orrect.
[3:42:26]
>> is t here any opposition to
it's passed.
[3:42:30]
it's passed.
>> thank you.
>> thank you.
[3:42:36]
>> would this be a good time
to break for lunch?
[3:42:41]
>> so, we ran a little long,
[3:42:44]
do you want t o come back at
[3:42:46]
2:00 for the 1:30 hearings
hour before we're supposed to
[3:42:51]
hour before we're supposed to
be back.
>> yeah.
[3:42:53]
>> 2:00?
>> 2:00.
>> does that work?
[3:42:58]
>> craig, are y ou alright
with
that?
[3:43:24]
>> yes.
Here.
[3:52:08]
here.
>> I know.
[3:52:15]
(
>> okay, folks, we'll call
[3:52:21]
the
meeting t o order and stop me
[3:52:25]
for n ot being close enough to
[3:52:27]
the m ic., so I've pull it
me know.
[3:52:30]
me know.
>> you sound much better, and
[3:52:33]
look, I did too.
>> very nice.
[3:52:35]
>> okay, we'll call the
meeting to order and first
[3:52:40]
item of business?
>> yes, s ir, your first item
[3:52:43]
is on page 14, q1, a pu
hearing to consider approval
[3:52:48]
of a resolution approving a
special permit allowing a
[3:52:49]
temporary construction
staging
area for a canal
[3:52:55]
restoration/water quality
improvement project a t
[3:52:59]
property legally described as
part of tract a, sexton cov
[3:53:04]
estates, resubdivision key
largo, plat book 6, page
[3:53:05]
of
the official records of
monroe
[3:53:07]
county, florida, and I do not
speak, do you, jethon?
[3:53:12]
speak, do you, jethon?
>> there are no speakers on
[3:53:14]
zoom.
>> we have seen a lot of
[3:53:14]
these
kind of things.
Do I have a m otion?
[3:53:17]
>> move to approve.
>> second.
>> any objections?
[3:53:22]
the I tem is approved.
>> emily has asked that I
[3:53:26]
call
the n ext two items together,
[3:53:27]
is that o kay?
>> sure.
[3:53:30]
>> item q2a public hearing to
consider approval o f a
[3:53:35]
resolution approved a special
permit to a llow a temporary
[3:53:40]
construction staging area at
property located at 2 eagle
[3:53:44]
drive, key largo, relating to
canal restoration p rojts.
[3:53:47]
item q3, a public hearing to
consider approval o f a
[3:53:49]
resolution approving a
perm allowing a temporary
[3:53:54]
perm allowing a temporary
construction staging area at
[3:53:58]
property located at 30 osprey
drive, key largo, relating to
[3:54:01]
a canal restoration p roject.
I d on't have anybody signed
[3:54:03]
up
jethon?
[3:54:08]
jethon?
>> there are no raised hands.
>> thank you.
[3:54:13]
>> do w e have a motion?
>> so moved.
Er
[3:54:14]
>> s econd.
>> hear ago m otion ask a is
[3:54:19]
second, h earing no
objections,
[3:54:23]
q2 and q3 are approved.
>> your n ext item is q4, a
[3:54:28]
public haring to consider
adoption of an ordinance
[3:54:31]
revising section 19-4 o f the
monroe count the code to
[3:54:36]
increase the tolerates for
card sound role toll by the
[3:54:39]
consumer price index of
axle rate will increase from
[3:54:44]
axle rate will increase from
[3:54:46]
80 cents to 87 cents per a
[3:54:50]
and t he 3 axle or greater
[3:54:51]
rate
will increase from $10.05 to
[3:54:55]
$1.14 per a xle and each
additional axle w ill increase
[3:55:00]
from $10.05 to 1:14.
Due to increased
[3:55:02]
administrative cost for
toll
[3:55:07]
toll
by plate transactions, a toll
[3:55:11]
by plate 2 axle rate will be
established a t $1.31 per
[3:55:15]
axle,
established
[3:55:22]
established
at $1.71 per axle and each
[3:55:26]
additional axle will be 171
? Md.
[3:55:29]
>> I have a q uestion, the
[3:55:32]
cpi's gone up a significant
amount this y ear, but this
[3:55:35]
bridge is in need of repair
know how much capital dollars
[3:55:40]
know how much capital dollars
we have set aside for that
[3:55:44]
already, but I would think we
would perhaps n eed to
[3:55:47]
consider
having a little bit more of
[3:55:48]
raise in the toll like a
[3:55:52]
dollar.
I don't t hink that's onerous
[3:56:00]
to me b ut I don't use that
[3:56:03]
bridge tall time, but I ju
-- I'm concerned that that's
[3:56:06]
going to be a very expensive
project.
[3:56:06]
>> can you comment on that
for
us.
[3:56:09]
>> I happen to agree and I'
[3:56:13]
not sure that today is the
[3:56:13]
right time to d o it because
[3:56:15]
not a l ot of people had a l
[3:56:16]
of advanced w arning about it
but I t hink we should
[3:56:20]
consider
raising t he toll
[3:56:20]
significantly, both judy and
I
[3:56:26]
told you when we accomplishe
[3:56:29]
toll by plate, we thought we
[3:56:29]
should go to 200 or 300 %
time,
[3:56:32]
time,
fairness -- we can discuss it
[3:56:36]
and we'll t ake your guidance,
[3:56:40]
if we c hange it today, there
[3:56:42]
will be p eople who will say,
warning o f the significant
[3:56:45]
warning o f the significant
change, commissioner, I
[3:56:45]
appreciate you bringing it
up,
[3:56:48]
it's exactly the right thing
conversations with all of you
[3:56:53]
conversations with all of you
[3:56:54]
which you a ll agree, so my
[3:56:57]
suggestion is you approve it
back with a different plan
[3:57:02]
back with a different plan
proposal that w e can start
[3:57:05]
discussing -- n ormally we
approve these thing I ns june,
[3:57:08]
we'll b ring it back somewher
around february or march so
[3:57:12]
there's a l ot of advanced
warning, whatever t he key
[3:57:15]
largo meeting is in that time
be march.
[3:57:15]
be march.
>> ma .
Er
[3:57:19]
>> -- march.
>> and then w e can have a
[3:57:24]
complete discussion, those
people who use it a lot would
[3:57:27]
be able t o be represented and
with them, I'm avoiding
[3:57:32]
with them, I'm avoiding
calling it an argument,
[3:57:33]
that's
the approach.
[3:57:35]
>> it s eems odd to me we've
had
[3:57:39]
had
to replace that bridge sooner
[3:57:41]
or later and now at the la
moment, w e're talking about
[3:57:46]
raising a f ew bucks on the
we'll n ever raise enough
[3:57:48]
we'll n ever raise enough
in this short period of time
[3:57:52]
in this short period of time
[3:57:57]
to pay for the bridge, so w
[3:58:00]
better hope f or some more opm.
Strategy but, yes, sir.
[3:58:03]
strategy but, yes, sir.
>> that seems like a
[3:58:07]
reasonable approach.
>> just a for must seconds,
[3:58:10]
I'm sure judy may have
[3:58:12]
something to say about it, we
[3:58:15]
came to you w ith a plan when
[3:58:18]
we established this thing and
to raise for some significant
[3:58:22]
to raise for some significant
replacement t of percentage,
[3:58:26]
when we're ready to do it, we
[3:58:29]
can then debt finance going
to do public infrastructure,
[3:58:32]
to do public infrastructure,
then probably use s ome other
[3:58:35]
people's money, s tate or
federal, that will be a
[3:58:40]
strategy, j udy's already
we've budgeted fund t o do
[3:58:45]
we've budgeted fund t o do
[3:58:48]
that, I t's a multiyear lan to
[3:58:49]
get to the the replacement
the a pproach we've taken,
[3:58:52]
the a pproach we've taken,
from
[3:58:55]
the o utside looking in, it
[3:59:02]
had
it at this rate and I'm
[3:59:07]
it at this rate and I'm
[3:59:10]
assuming that five years ago,
recommendations, frankly, I
[3:59:12]
recommendations, frankly, I
don't remember that.
[3:59:16]
>> there was --
>> [inaudible].
>> go ahead, judy.
[3:59:22]
>> I'm sorry?
>> mayor rice, you may be the
[3:59:27]
only one that will remember,
study
[3:59:27]
study
as we were automate thing
toll
[3:59:31]
and we came b ack and looked
at
[3:59:35]
different levels and I
believe
[3:59:39]
we did want I t to be higher
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[3:59:41]
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mainly for a lot of the
private passenger v ehicles
[3:59:45]
that commute da daily,
workers t hat use that road,
[3:59:50]
so, yes, it's probably time
to
[3:59:51]
take another look at it.
>> well, I certainly agree
[3:59:55]
with that.
>> mr. Mayor?
>> we'll entertain a motion.
[3:59:58]
>> thank you, m ay I ask a
question please.
[4:00:01]
>> you just did.
>> may I ask another?
[4:00:01]
>> yes.
Er
>> thank y ou.
[4:00:09]
>> judy, remind me, that th
[4:00:12]
point, didn't w e come up with
[4:00:13]
a special sun p ass or a plan
[4:00:14]
if r the workers and people
who fraoegtly go back and
[4:00:18]
forth?
.
Er yes, there a re two
[4:00:22]
programs, t here's one that is
an annual p ass, these are
[4:00:26]
only
for p rivate passenger
vehicles
[4:00:30]
and you need have a sun pass
[4:00:33]
account but y ou can purchase
an annual p ass and that's
[4:00:35]
unlimited u se of going
through
[4:00:40]
the toll for an annual
[4:00:43]
calendar period a nd that is
[4:00:46]
set each year, the price of
[4:00:48]
that is s et each year to be
[4:00:49]
50% of an estimated number of
[4:00:52]
-- basic estimated number of
trips through, five d ays a
[4:00:56]
week, every w eek, and we
calculate it that way, it's
[4:00:59]
basically a 50% savings.
We also h ave a second program
[4:01:02]
for maybe p eople that can't
purchase a pass for the
[4:01:05]
purchase a pass for the
entire
[4:01:09]
year, if you have a sun pass
[4:01:13]
account and I t's in good
standing again, j ust for
[4:01:16]
private p assenger vehicles,
and I didn't check the number
[4:01:20]
and I didn't check the number
through t he toll, single
[4:01:26]
through t he toll, single
passes through, y ou're
[4:01:31]
considered a frequent user
and
[4:01:35]
in your next month's
credit so, we do have two
[4:01:43]
credit so, we do have two
[4:01:45]
programs that do reduce the
cost for frequent users under
[4:01:49]
those c onditions, so it's a
low toll if you take
[4:01:51]
advantage
of nose g iven --
[4:01:53]
>> and judy, I was reminded
there's t he annual paz option.
[4:01:56]
.
Er that's what I discussed,
[4:01:58]
yes, those are the two, the
the monthly r ebate.
[4:02:02]
the monthly r ebate.
>> so, we w ould be doing
[4:02:06]
that,
adding that component to
[4:02:09]
bha fr we're doing waez raise
the t olerates?
[4:02:12]
>> it's a lways available
every
[4:02:16]
year and as w e adjust the
rates, we r ecalculate the
[4:02:21]
annual pass c alculation which
includes the rate going
[4:02:24]
through the toll and the
course the rebate t monthly
[4:02:28]
course the rebate t monthly
[4:02:31]
rebate program is j ust on the
[4:02:34]
actual cost and y ou get a 40%
[4:02:35]
reduction a s you've -- once
through,
[4:02:37]
through,
so yes, those programs
[4:02:40]
continue each year and are
adjusted.
>> mr. Mayor?
[4:02:43]
>> yes, s ir.
>> you want t o go first?
[4:02:45]
>> I want to make a commen
agree w ith the
[4:02:50]
agree w ith the
recommendations
[4:02:54]
of kevin and also I think
[4:02:56]
definitely need to raise the
rates t o start funding the
[4:03:00]
source because the pain of
increasing the rates will be
[4:03:03]
far less than if we have to
[4:03:04]
close that bridge because w e
don't have the money to
[4:03:08]
repair
move forward with that and
[4:03:12]
move forward with that and
to discuss that so everybody
[4:03:17]
to discuss that so everybody
can -- citizens can have
[4:03:20]
input
>> and thank you, mr. Mayor,
[4:03:23]
>> and thank you, mr. Mayor,
and good comments, pro tem
[4:03:28]
cates, kevin, w ill the annual
pass holders, or the option
[4:03:31]
number 2 folk, will they ge
a
[4:03:33]
notice that the rate will be
[4:03:35]
increasing or will it show up?
At a discount.
[4:03:38]
at a discount.
>> we d on't send out specific
[4:03:42]
notices, each year when we
[4:03:44]
increase this, we d o send out
there's already been an
[4:03:47]
there's already been an
article in the newspaper that
[4:03:50]
this was going to be
discussed
[4:03:54]
and then of c ourse we post
the
[4:03:58]
signage s o that everyone's
are changing, w e have to
[4:04:02]
are changing, w e have to
notify the department o f
[4:04:05]
transportation, they operate
payment processing for us.
[4:04:08]
payment processing for us.
>> we let it out, and we
[4:04:13]
>> we let it out, and we
[4:04:15]
have good c ommunication, many
of the users obviously work
[4:04:20]
at
have good c ommunication with
[4:04:24]
have good c ommunication with
out but w e do not send
[4:04:29]
out but w e do not send
individual notices to each
[4:04:34]
person.
>> any further questions?
[4:04:33]
anybody like the make a
motion?
[4:04:36]
>> I'll make a motion.
Do we h ave a second?
[4:04:42]
do we h ave a second?
>> second.
>> any objections?
[4:04:47]
hearing n one, the item is
approved.
[4:04:50]
>> your next --
>> thanks, judy.
[4:04:55]
>> your n ext item is q5a
public hearing to consider
[4:05:00]
adoption of an ordinance
amending monroe county code
[4:05:03]
section 2 1-72, subsection a,
regulations of specialty
[4:05:06]
haulers a nd transfer stations
to allow for the number of
[4:05:10]
annual specialty hauler
licenses to be increased from
[4:05:13]
the limit o f 24 annual
specialty hauler licenses to
[4:05:19]
40.
And I d on't have anybody
[4:05:23]
signed up in person, jethon?
>> there are no raised hand.
[4:05:26]
>> I'm merely here standing
in
for sheryl.
[4:05:29]
>> do w e have a motion?
>> I'll m ake that motion.
[4:05:34]
>> second.
>> we have a motion and a
[4:05:42]
second, a nybody feeling
[4:05:45]
negative about it?
>> thank you, commissioners.
[4:05:50]
>> thank you, commissioners.
Number 12, item o18,
[4:05:57]
number 12, item o18,
discussion of o ptions for off
[4:06:02]
street parking at bay drive.
Up,
[4:06:03]
up,
it's very b rief.
While jethon's queuing that
[4:06:08]
up, there a re two items
that come together, john will
[4:06:13]
that come together, john will
[4:06:15]
be here I n a moment to -- as
[4:06:18]
my boss says, ham a nd egg it
[4:06:19]
with me, okay, this I s going
[4:06:19]
to look longer than it is
[4:06:21]
because you've seen a l ot of
this
[4:06:25]
this
there we go, okay, you know
[4:06:28]
there we go, okay, you know
[4:06:31]
what it is, bay drive, rig
recreational area, just so
[4:06:36]
recreational area, just so
everybody remembers, it's bay
[4:06:41]
drive, not mike forester pa
parks a nd rec advisory board
[4:06:45]
meeting, commission gave us
some direction, w e changed
[4:06:48]
the
parking penalties out there,
[4:06:50]
what's the objective, we
talked to y ou back in march
[4:06:54]
and you s aid come back with
[4:06:54]
some ideas, we've d ope that,
here's the idea, let's do
[4:06:58]
some
off s treet parking possibly,
[4:07:01]
move the fence back f rom the
50
[4:07:04]
50
feet, you g et 8 parking spays
[4:07:08]
and is ark da parking space,
back
[4:07:11]
back
100 feet, I 'm told we
probably
[4:07:14]
couldn't go back 100,
probably
[4:07:17]
80, t here's a depression,
replace t hat area with
[4:07:21]
gravel,
put parking bumpers I n there,
[4:07:23]
appropriate stuff and t hen
comes t he question of is it
[4:07:27]
free parking, anybody c an
come
[4:07:29]
because it's still a county
facility, a nybody's allowed
[4:07:32]
there, john w ill talk in a
[4:07:34]
minute about how we might be
[4:07:35]
able to c harge for parking
from people that are not f
[4:07:39]
the c ounty and have people
that are from the county have
[4:07:42]
free parking there.
And I think tla covers all o
[4:07:46]
my stuff.
You're up, john.
[4:07:48]
f y ou have any questions,
okay, here's the question for
[4:07:53]
you, do you want us to do
that
[4:07:56]
and if so, do you have some
much parking?
[4:07:58]
much parking?
Okay, you s hould tell me you
[4:08:00]
want me t o give you a
recommendation, my
[4:08:04]
recommendation is we move
about 50, 6 0 feet and get 9
[4:08:06]
or
so parking space, it's enough
[4:08:07]
to make the place feel you
can
[4:08:11]
get there, people from the
[4:08:13]
neighborhood can use it,
neighborhood can still drive
[4:08:17]
neighborhood can still drive
there a nd use it, if we push
[4:08:22]
it farther and make 20
parking
[4:08:22]
spaces, it's going to b egin
to
feel crowded.
[4:08:26]
>> mr. Mayor, if I might,
I'll
[4:08:30]
weigh in first.
I looked at it and I thought
[4:08:34]
that larger n umber was too
[4:08:36]
much, t hat it did just wha
[4:08:37]
you s aid, it takes it away
it
[4:08:40]
it
just a parking lot, I like
[4:08:43]
the
idea of somewhere between 8
[4:08:46]
and 1 0 parking spots, so you
don't l ive in walking
[4:08:50]
don't l ive in walking
distance
[4:08:52]
of that neighborhood but who
county
[4:08:57]
county
to baibl access that park and
[4:09:01]
park and enjoy the space, s
[4:09:02]
that's my opinion .
>> anybody else?
[4:09:10]
>> anybody else?
>> I just wanted to say I
[4:09:15]
agree with that, too many
[4:09:15]
parking places, there w ill be
too m any people tat beach,
[4:09:19]
not
a g ood experience, there lob
[4:09:21]
locals who walk there, so I
agree w ith you 100% there.
[4:09:26]
>> and it's not really a c
somewhere between 1 5-20
[4:09:28]
somewhere between 1 5-20
thousand dollars, we'll d o it
[4:09:31]
with our own labor, that
includes our labor cost but
[4:09:34]
then you get to the next
[4:09:34]
question of h ow do you do
[4:09:36]
those thing and I s what do
[4:09:39]
you
do about hour a nd is opening
[4:09:43]
hours and s uch and so, john's
ready to talk about that.
[4:09:47]
>> parking and hours.
Parking and hours, yes.
[4:09:49]
>> for that area there, I've
[4:09:50]
been out there a few times to
of
[4:09:52]
of
neighbors that live o ut
there,
[4:09:54]
something that if we do
decide
[4:09:57]
to do t his, we can continue
with just the tuesday through
[4:10:02]
thursday, k eeping it like
that, keep thing traffic
[4:10:06]
minimal l ike that and we can
[4:10:06]
talk about the fees and all
there,
[4:10:08]
there,
there is a lot of traffic
[4:10:11]
that
comes in and out and I went
[4:10:13]
by
a c ouple of families
[4:10:15]
a c ouple of families
utilizing
[4:10:18]
it out there, so I agree a
[4:10:21]
ago f ew small parking places
still keeping it tuesday
[4:10:24]
still keeping it tuesday
win, win for everybody that
[4:10:26]
win, win for everybody that
is
[4:10:29]
out there right now at this
[4:10:33]
time.
Going into segway, goik into
[4:10:37]
that part now, segway into
I'm basically h ere for the
[4:10:41]
I'm basically h ere for the
the p ossible installation of
[4:10:45]
the p ossible installation of
payment application s oftware
[4:10:48]
for p arking and boat ramp at
[4:10:51]
harry harris park and o ther
[4:10:53]
parks as needed in the future
[4:10:54]
f we decide t o do this with
[4:10:57]
the right o f way, that would
[4:10:59]
be another park that I would
[inaudible] or mark m obile
[4:11:01]
[inaudible] or mark m obile
tor
[4:11:02]
other applications out there
to charge non-residents to be
[4:11:06]
able to p ark and our
residents
[4:11:09]
is free, talk about the p ark
[4:11:11]
that's not this park but mik
road, I would strongly
[4:11:15]
road, I would strongly
recommend having a fee for
[4:11:18]
non-residents to use that as
well.
[4:11:21]
the reason being, I talk
today
[4:11:25]
the community o ut there, they
send me pictures, I've horsed
[4:11:28]
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-- observed it and just
[4:11:31]
observing the p arking, I met
luncheon, but, you know, the
[4:11:36]
luncheon, but, you know, the
late mike f orester talked to
[4:11:40]
me, t hat was hoover his
concerns, w e talked at length
[4:11:43]
about t he parking issues at
[4:11:45]
that time at sunset park and
commissioner raschein about
[4:11:48]
commissioner raschein about
en, I have pictures I can
[4:11:53]
en, I have pictures I can
[4:11:56]
share w ith you where boat
trailers are lined up at mike
[4:12:01]
forester memorial park, they
[4:12:03]
rev u p their jet skis before
[4:12:06]
going into it, there is a lot
[4:12:07]
of concerns and h aving that
pay b y app and charging the
[4:12:10]
non-residents t o utilize it
would be great for our
[4:12:12]
residents and great f or the
neighborhoods to be ailt use
[4:12:16]
itment some o f the other --
[4:12:17]
out there observing, some o f
the other t hings I strongly
[4:12:21]
think t he parking application
would b e for, parking apps
[4:12:23]
are
easy to use, you can pay for
[4:12:25]
it a viert of ways, if you
get
[4:12:27]
lost, you c an always find
your
[4:12:29]
car, roman told me that,
roman
[4:12:36]
may have experience with
that,
[4:12:40]
you c an eliminate the toll
booth that's out there that's
[4:12:44]
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at harry harris, finding
change has become an issue,
[4:12:49]
the line get ining and out is
[4:12:52]
hard and goes t hrough the
neighborhood, it's hard to
[4:12:56]
pull through, p eople don't
know thousand pull boats so
[4:13:01]
it
becomes a n issue get hinting
[4:13:04]
that space, there w ould be no
more staff deposits, parking
[4:13:08]
apps, most of t hem, all of
[4:13:10]
them are no c ost to the
[4:13:12]
county, they come I n and do
[4:13:12]
it, t he way they make their
surcharge
[4:13:15]
surcharge
cents u p to 75 cents in
[4:13:18]
cents u p to 75 cents in
that we would set
[4:13:23]
that we would set
established,
[4:13:23]
residents could still p ark
and
[4:13:28]
launch their boats for free,
just in p articular would be
[4:13:33]
without waiting a t a toll
booth, the parking app gives
[4:13:37]
me up t o the minute data, I
if
[4:13:40]
if
the boat ramp I s pull, we can
[4:13:43]
put some things on social
media with the codes, they
[4:13:47]
give you codes like the boat
or
[4:13:48]
or
whatever in t he parking over
[4:13:51]
here, people that are coming
it's full w ithout having to
[4:13:55]
it's full w ithout having to
boat ramp.
[4:13:57]
boat ramp.
We could add days if needed
[4:14:00]
and the b oat trailers in th
neighborhood can always d o
[4:14:03]
the
drop and dash xh they do now,
[4:14:07]
they can go and put their
house, enforcement, I 'm still
[4:14:13]
house, enforcement, I 'm still
working o ut the details with
[4:14:18]
sheriff r amsay and his team,
and t alking with the captain
[4:14:21]
yesterday, short term, we're
going to have off duty
[4:14:25]
officers to c ome out to mike
forester memorial park and
[4:14:27]
mike mare ris to help wit
the
[4:14:31]
line and see if it's full t
[4:14:32]
tell them it's full and not
still
[4:14:37]
still
have off duty officer tos
[4:14:39]
have
citations or potentially
[4:14:43]
training staff like t he city
[4:14:43]
of key west does to be able
[4:14:46]
to
issue citations websinger can
[4:14:52]
proceed w ith an rfp to get
review
[4:14:56]
review
and make selection, it could
[4:14:58]
take 30-60 days, I.t. Would
be
[4:15:01]
a huge part with that, and
the
[4:15:03]
ordinance recommendation, I'm
trying to get that together
[4:15:06]
and I m ight meet with parks
july
[4:15:08]
july
and kind of go over all those
[4:15:13]
details w ith them, I'm trying
in there or give some
[4:15:16]
in there or give some
authority t o roman to make
[4:15:19]
some fees I f needed for
[4:15:19]
parking and s o forth, so that
hopefully
[4:15:24]
hopefully
in august after I meet with
[4:15:28]
the p arks and rec advisory
board to go over those
[4:15:33]
details.
Fi -- any questions?
[4:15:33]
>> that's a l ot of
information, I'm sorry.
.
[4:15:38]
er key west has had that f
a
[4:15:42]
while and I u se that app
myself, I t's so convenient,
[4:15:45]
everybody is happy with it,
it
[4:15:45]
warns you that you are
running
[4:15:48]
out of time a nd you can put
[4:15:52]
more time on it from your
[4:15:54]
phone, I think that's a great
[4:15:57]
idea, a nd plus good for
managing the park and also a
[4:16:00]
income for the county that's
consistent.
>> yes, s ir.
[4:16:03]
>> a motion?
>> move to approve.
[4:16:07]
>> sek. -- second.
>> thank you for doing all o
[4:16:11]
this, this is part of the
[4:16:12]
reason why we wanted to hire
[4:16:14]
directors to help us resolve
[4:16:15]
these issues and I think this
[4:16:16]
is going to make a big
park
[4:16:20]
park
and is beaches, so good job.
[4:16:22]
er
>> this w as just discussion,
[4:16:23]
right, and direction or was
it
--
[4:16:26]
>> well, I didn't read the
[4:16:29]
item into the agenda, I was
[4:16:29]
going the ask if I could go
recordkeeping purposes, he
[4:16:34]
recordkeeping purposes, he
just went over with you o21
[4:16:35]
on
page 12 which I s the
[4:16:38]
discussion and direction for
the installation of payment
[4:16:41]
application s oftware for
and b eaches.
[4:16:47]
and b eaches.
So, t he motion was to install
[4:16:51]
those, correct, to rfp.
>> correct.
[4:16:55]
start the process.
>> we h ave a motion and a
[4:17:00]
second, any further c omments?
Any o bjections?
[4:17:00]
>> hearing none, the item is
approved.
[4:17:03]
>> besides the commissioner
comment, the last item we
[4:17:07]
have
2:30, we have a few minutes
[4:17:09]
2:30, we have a few minutes
[4:17:13]
before that.
>> not according to my watch
[4:17:16]
>> it's 2 :30, isn't it?
>> just k idding.
[4:17:20]
>> so, we're just going the
pause until 2:30?
[4:17:24]
>> I'll g o back far enough t
[4:17:25]
remember the final budget
ining key west many, many
[4:17:29]
ining key west many, many
[4:17:32]
years ago t hat went on and o
[4:17:35]
and on and I believe staff --
[4:17:37]
it required w e finish by mi
[4:17:38]
night, I was not on the
remember somebody standing on
[4:17:41]
remember somebody standing on
a clare a nd turning the clock
[4:17:45]
back an h our.
[4:17:48]
[laughter].
It forward?
[4:17:55]
it forward?
>> time I s a relative thing.
[4:17:59]
>> we h ave the commissioner
comments.
[4:18:00]
>> we could have commissioner
comments, anybody have any
[4:18:05]
comment they haven't already
[4:18:08]
made?
[4:18:12]
I h ave one thing I would like
[4:18:16]
to say and just to point ou
[4:18:19]
something, you know, in my
[4:18:22]
experience on the commission,
I've always w anted to have a
[4:18:27]
good knowledge of what our
and it's always been very
[4:18:30]
and it's always been very
some people, present company
[4:18:34]
some people, present company
excepted, w ould frequently
[4:18:38]
write l etters and take
positions on things and y ou
[4:18:42]
always wonder, you hear from
and you k now they're the
[4:18:45]
and you k now they're the
people who are following
[4:18:51]
issues closely enough to sit
[4:18:55]
down and write a letter but
[4:18:58]
you k ind of wonder about the
[4:19:00]
rest of the community and I
have truly appreciated the
[4:19:03]
input we get from the
kimberly has done because
[4:19:05]
kimberly has done because
that
[4:19:09]
comes straight from the
community.
[4:19:15]
kimberly, how many meetings
are you d oing this year?
[4:19:19]
>> [inaudible].
Meetings
[4:19:24]
meetings
up and down the keys, so you
[4:19:29]
get a pretty darn good samp
ago, we I dentified
[4:19:34]
ago, we I dentified
transportation as perhaps t he
[4:19:37]
number one priority,
transportation and traffic
[4:19:41]
congestion, s o we've moved
[4:19:45]
ahead with that, we do liste
[4:19:48]
to that a nd I just wanted to
[4:19:51]
say t hat that information to
our c ommunities much better
[4:19:54]
our c ommunities much better
than any alternatives that we
[4:19:59]
used to have, so -- and it
does change our decisions, so
[4:20:04]
thank y ou, kimberly.
>> well, I've enjoyed
[4:20:06]
attending a few o f those with
[4:20:09]
kimberly, it's fun to sit
there and s ee the interaction
[4:20:12]
2022-06-15t14:27:55.9326136-04:00
of the community and what I
[4:20:15]
would also add to that is I
strongly encourage anyone who
[4:20:20]
wasn't able to attend one o
website because y ou can
[4:20:22]
website because y ou can
[4:20:25]
easily
fill it o ut on our website a
[4:20:29]
well and that way we can eve
people.
[4:20:31]
people.
>> which gives kimberly more
[4:20:36]
homework to p rocess all that
information.
[4:20:39]
>> well, in any case, thank
that
[4:20:43]
that
we're talking to out in t he
[4:20:47]
community w ho are not here,
the comment m ichelle made
[4:20:51]
about -- you can just go
right
[4:20:55]
on to our monroe county
[4:20:58]
website and f ill that out and
[4:20:58]
we would encourage you to do
[4:20:59]
that because it matters and
thank you.
[4:21:08]
thank you.
Plug, w hen are the next ones
[4:21:16]
plug, w hen are the next ones
[4:21:19]
>> alright, s o on friday, I
[4:21:21]
will be doing a key west tow
[4:21:24]
hall followed with a veterans
update at the harvey building
[4:21:27]
at 11 p.m., then anyone from
[4:21:28]
the public is welcome to
attend, and a gain as you
[4:21:32]
mentioned, there's the online
survey, t he next tuesday, I
[4:21:36]
will be at the marathon
chamber o f commerce luncheon,
[4:21:40]
then tuesday evening, I w ill
be presenting to the ladies
[4:21:44]
group of santa in marathon in
[4:21:45]
the eve t hing, then we're
[4:21:45]
going the w rap up the survey,
on
[4:21:48]
on
the sunday which is the
[4:21:50]
following day websinger h ave
received some e -mails from
[4:21:53]
folks w ho really wanted to
just send m e all their
[4:21:56]
thought
ins an e-mail, that I s always
[4:21:58]
welcome and great but I f you
[4:22:01]
do go on to the survey,
important open ended question
[4:22:05]
important open ended question
that asks I s there anything
[4:22:06]
you want to a dd to the list
of
[4:22:09]
priorities, so we would
encourage everyone to do
[4:22:10]
that.
Thank you.
>> thank you.
[4:22:12]
and I think we've
successfully
[4:22:14]
filled up t he four minutes,
[4:22:15]
so
we'll move on to the next
item.
[4:22:20]
>> your next item is s2 on
page 15, discussion and
[4:22:24]
direction for response to the
requests for extraordinary
[4:22:29]
rate increases on residential
collection fees b y waste
[4:22:31]
management, t heir thon
garbage
[4:22:33]
service a nd keys sanitary
service d ue to increases in
[4:22:38]
labor a nd fuel costs and
increases in haul o ut and
[4:22:42]
disposal costs and we do have
public speakers.
[4:22:45]
>> would you like me to ru
thing?
[4:22:46]
thing?
>> certainly.
>> if I may beg your
[4:22:50]
indulgence for one slightly
off t opic comment, I forgot
[4:22:52]
to
do something about the talk
about - -
[4:22:55]
>> hold t hat mic. Up a little
bit.
[4:22:58]
>> I'll get closer, this
thing
[4:23:02]
is so t all now.
I'm well known for make ago
[4:23:07]
specific comment when I w alk
[4:23:06]
into a room of attorneys and
case,
[4:23:09]
case,
I would like to give an
[4:23:12]
attorney credit f or his
engineering expertise.
[4:23:17]
we were looking at ways to
[4:23:20]
deal with bay drive a nd the
[4:23:22]
guy whose idea it was I s to
[4:23:23]
put parking n ose in on each
side was nobody other than
[4:23:25]
mr.
To find a way t o do it and
[4:23:30]
to find a way t o do it and
[4:23:34]
that's how that got started.
[4:23:36]
you r emember that, right, bob?
Say ?frjts of course I'm
[4:23:41]
say ?frjts of course I'm
right, I'm bob.
[4:23:43]
>> jethon, if you have time
queue that thing up, I
[4:23:47]
queue that thing up, I
appreciate it.
[4:23:51]
framing the I ssue, we've got
requests for extraordinary
[4:23:55]
rate increases, that is
provided for in the contract
[4:23:57]
when they're unusual
all understand what's h appen
[4:24:04]
all understand what's h appen
ined the last 8 months, I
[4:24:09]
don't s ee anything happening,
jethon.
[4:24:14]
I see a whole lot of hand
you.
[4:24:18]
you.
That's a summary of the
[4:24:22]
request, you've all seen th
in the white paper that I
[4:24:26]
sent
you, in a ddition to the
[4:24:27]
residential collection rate
increases, there's requests
[4:24:29]
for 4 d ollars ton more to
haul
[4:24:33]
out a nd dispose and our
request for a n increase in
[4:24:35]
the
commercial collection which
is
[4:24:37]
something like 13%.
The c ontract provides for
them
[4:24:42]
to be able to request it and
[4:24:46]
they can request a fuel
surcharge a s well which they
[4:24:49]
have done, there is no such
provision for fuel surcharge
[4:24:51]
in the residential or haul
out
[4:24:53]
contracts, this I s all just
from the audit report ts,
[4:24:55]
from the audit report ts,
this
[4:24:59]
is the percentage of fuel an
labor, the percentage of
[4:25:02]
their
expense that is are m ade up
[4:25:04]
by
fuel and labor, f uel is a
[4:25:06]
pretty small percentage,
labor
[4:25:08]
is by f ar the biggest, we al
experiencing
[4:25:11]
experiencing
with retaining labor down
here
[4:25:17]
and if you don't mind, greg,
[4:25:20]
I'll out you and say you've
[4:25:22]
had to increase your housing
stiefrp, he's paying $750 a
[4:25:27]
month t o his employees as a
be
[4:25:30]
be
500, that's all weighing in
this.
[4:25:35]
okay, earlier t oday, you
approved us for maximum
[4:25:39]
tentative s olid waste
[4:25:42]
residential b asement of $446,
this year, you'll notice what
[4:25:47]
this year, you'll notice what
the o ther jurisdictions are,
[4:25:50]
aisle m orado is 4555, key
west
[4:25:54]
with lower levels of service,
one g arbage a week and such
[4:25:58]
is
still 316, there's some other
[4:25:58]
differences there, I wanted
put I n perspective for some
[4:26:02]
put I n perspective for some
of
[4:26:09]
our surrounding j urisdictions.
The f uel surcharge provision
[4:26:12]
in the contract says you c
get a fuel surcharge when t
[4:26:17]
fuel cost I s higher than 20%
[4:26:18]
above when we signed the
contract, you c an see from
[4:26:22]
may
2014 through late last year,
[4:26:25]
it was below it, as much as
[4:26:27]
50% below I t but you all kno
[4:26:29]
what happened starting at the
end of the year, november,
[4:26:34]
december, the c ost of diesel
[4:26:36]
fuel exploded and it's now
years a go, so it certainly
[4:26:41]
years a go, so it certainly
triggers the provision of the
[4:26:43]
contract.
This is intended to s how you
[4:26:47]
on the residential side what
cpi increases t hey have
[4:26:50]
gotten
fser what were allowed in t
[4:26:52]
contract, y ou'll notice that
experience is much higher
[4:26:56]
because they were capped at
2.5% ton residential
[4:27:00]
collection, some years they
got 0, you'll notice in
[4:27:07]
17-18-19, there w as no cpi
adjustment allowed in t he
[4:27:12]
contract, e ven though we
experienced m oderate levels,
[4:27:17]
2, 2.9, 2.9, on the
commercial
[4:27:20]
side, you'll notice it only
[4:27:21]
diverges as w e go into 2022
the
[4:27:25]
the
commercial side of 4% but
[4:27:30]
you'll notice all o f the
actual cpi's were lower than
[4:27:35]
that until this year when
cpi adjustment february t o
[4:27:37]
february is 9.8% and is
capped
at 4.
[4:27:41]
the n umbers are not super
the t rend they've typically
[4:27:46]
the t rend they've typically
been below where cpi is over
[4:27:50]
time.
Okay.
Some important things,
[4:27:50]
there's
a lot of moving p arts to
[4:27:54]
this,
everything that I s in this
[4:27:58]
contract affects the
residential a ssessment.
[4:28:01]
fuel surcharge should g o up
and d own as fuel fluctuates,
[4:28:06]
we wouldn't want to just
[4:28:06]
increase it for f uel and if
way
[4:28:09]
way
surcharges work.
Increase thing haul o ut and
[4:28:14]
disposal cost affects
residential a ssessment,
[4:28:17]
commercial rates which we
adjusted a few months ago if
[4:28:22]
you r emember, it also affect
what we c harge to the
[4:28:24]
islamorada solid waste
contractor, used to be
[4:28:25]
advance, now it's waste
management, we have a special
[4:28:28]
contract if you might
remember
[4:28:31]
from 2014 that includes
special rates for I slamorada,
[4:28:35]
we can't increase what we p
[4:28:39]
waste m anagement to haul it
adjustment to a isle mortared
[4:28:44]
adjustment to a isle mortared
did, marauder -- islamorada,
[4:28:47]
and that special thing for
florida city, they'll h ave to
[4:28:52]
start paying more too and
across the scale tipping
[4:28:54]
across the scale tipping
rates
[4:28:55]
for p eople who bring stuff I
themselves, all of a sudden
[4:29:00]
what we're paying to haul it
we're letting p eople pay to
[4:29:04]
we're letting p eople pay to
say
[4:29:04]
say
everything's changed a lot in
[4:29:08]
the l ast 6-8 months, my first
[4:29:11]
reaction when I h eard this
[4:29:12]
was
I've got a contract that goes
[4:29:16]
through 2024, wlie am I
looking a t adjusting it, I
[4:29:21]
came to the conclusion we
need
[4:29:27]
to be good partners and work
[4:29:31]
out some plan, what is it.
[4:29:34]
so, what I'm asking you to d
[4:29:35]
today is tell us to go awa
[4:29:35]
and t ell them, no, or my
recommendation is work out
[4:29:38]
the
details of what it ought to
[4:29:41]
be
that's fair to both the
[4:29:44]
franchisees and t o the county
taxpayers and c ome back in
[4:29:47]
july with whatever
recommended
[4:29:49]
changes the contract we o ught
to make.
[4:29:53]
>> one more part to that,
did this morning.
[4:29:57]
did this morning.
>> yes, t he way we calculated
[4:30:01]
the tentative r ate this
morning, I'm reluctant to say
[4:30:04]
this in p ublic, I took
everything that I s aw them
[4:30:08]
asking for, I say I, sher
today because she h as a
[4:30:12]
today because she h as a
medical t hing, we took into
[4:30:16]
account as best we could all
[4:30:16]
of the things they were
[4:30:18]
asking
for and said what would we
[4:30:23]
have to c harge if the answer
[4:30:26]
is they're right, they get
everything, so 446 will work,
[4:30:29]
we'll f ind a way with o r
[4:30:30]
things like w e're going to
change the tipping channeled
[4:30:33]
and other t hings perhaps to
bring that down in august,
[4:30:36]
the
reason we p ointed that out,
[4:30:38]
446 is what's going to appear
[4:30:41]
on the trim notice and I know
[4:30:44]
we're going get p hone calls
tla,'s an 8% increase but
[4:30:46]
that's what t he world is
doing.
>> mr. Mayor?
[4:30:50]
>> thank you, yes, sir?
Maximum w e could charge, it
[4:30:54]
maximum w e could charge, it
[4:30:58]
can a lways go down, it can't
notification tof maximum
[4:31:03]
notification tof maximum
amount can be charged if w
[4:31:05]
don't figure something out.
Ffrjt we don't make other
[4:31:08]
changes, that number could
come down, and the reason I
[4:31:12]
point this out is the next
[4:31:14]
meeting t trim notices come
[4:31:18]
out the d ay after the next
[4:31:21]
meeting, so even if w e set a
[4:31:22]
lower rate as the final rate,
the trim notice.
[4:31:25]
the trim notice.
At the city obviously, the
[4:31:29]
at the city obviously, the
other comment I would make
[4:31:34]
before I yield is that at
[4:31:36]
least I n key west, my
you c annot mess up are
[4:31:39]
you c annot mess up are
picking
[4:31:43]
up the garbage and the
toilet's got to flush,
[4:31:47]
there's
[4:31:48]
a cost to d o that and my
[4:31:51]
experience with waste
management was all very good,
[4:31:56]
so I just understand there I
I'm willing t o consider it,
[4:31:59]
I'm willing t o consider it,
but k evin, good job, thank
[4:32:01]
you.
>> you can see the few
[4:32:03]
questions we have t o answer,
if you have any specific
[4:32:08]
feedback on a ny of them,
we're
[4:32:09]
certainly willing to listen
and take it under advisement
[4:32:12]
but there a re some speakers I
think.
>> yes.
[4:32:17]
>> if I might, I'm going to
[4:32:20]
add o n to what commissioner
[4:32:20]
scholl just said, one o f the
naoez s trategic planning
[4:32:24]
naoez s trategic planning
sessions with kimberly, one
[4:32:25]
of
the questioners she a sks is
[4:32:29]
what does the county do right
and e very meeting I've gone
[4:32:32]
to, somebodybacker someone
has
[4:32:32]
spaded trash, so it I s
something that's extremely
[4:32:36]
important to everyone t o have
their trash p icked up
[4:32:40]
especially living where we
live.
[4:32:41]
so, I'm all in favor of us
work.
[4:32:46]
work.
I know at one point we ta
[4:32:48]
about n ormalizing the rates
between all three o f the
[4:32:51]
entities and I know it too
us
[4:32:55]
a while but w e got that for
[4:32:58]
the commercial, and I think
[4:33:00]
the next thing we need to do
that for the residential.
[4:33:05]
that for the residential.
[4:33:07]
I know especially I n the
[4:33:10]
marathon area with marathon
garbage and a ll the areas now
[4:33:15]
that have so many vacation
rental units, that that tr
[4:33:18]
is so much more than it ever
week,
[4:33:19]
week,
somebody's coming in and
[4:33:20]
they're buying new product
and
[4:33:22]
they're t hrowing away
wrappers
[4:33:24]
and it's just a lot more
residential trash t han we
[4:33:28]
used
to have.
[4:33:32]
>> if I may, there are two
the b usiness about vacation
[4:33:37]
the b usiness about vacation
rentals is something we h ave
[4:33:40]
been addressing w ith the
franchisees for a c ouple of
[4:33:43]
months and as bob will tell
[4:33:45]
you, we have to did that in
[4:33:46]
such a way that we don't mess
with the vacation rental
[4:33:48]
ordinance but we think we
have
[4:33:50]
a way to deal with that, it
that one out.
[4:33:53]
that one out.
Uniform r ates for residential
[4:33:56]
just like we have for
commercial, I t's a different
[4:33:59]
question, the r eason for
uniform commercial rates was
[4:34:01]
that some business owners
have
[4:34:03]
businesses in multiple areas
and therefore couldn't
[4:34:05]
understand why they had
different rate asks that made
[4:34:10]
a lot o f sense so you had o
[4:34:12]
set o f rates, residential
pick-up is influence today a
[4:34:15]
greater e xtent by the
geography o f the thing.
[4:34:18]
I did h ave a conversation
with
[4:34:21]
greg con wrath about the old
years t hat yielded the
[4:34:25]
years t hat yielded the
difference and one of t he
[4:34:26]
things we conclude is m aybe
we
[4:34:29]
need to r evisit that because
changed since 2 5 years ago,
[4:34:33]
changed since 2 5 years ago,
figure, a nd so my first
[4:34:39]
figure, a nd so my first
reaction is to approach that
[4:34:44]
with a little bit of caution
[4:34:46]
but let's examine why I t is
[4:34:47]
and if a change is made,
arguments apply t o
[4:34:50]
arguments apply t o
residential
[4:34:51]
as applies to c ommercial
because the b usiness owners
[4:34:54]
that have multiple
businesses,
[4:34:56]
residents are I n different
work through that c ertainly.
[4:35:02]
work through that c ertainly.
>> okay.
Anyone else?
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I don't t hink we all love
[4:35:12]
exactly the w orld we live in
[4:35:14]
today a s it affects things
costs more to live here, it
[4:35:19]
costs more to live here, it
costs m ore to do business
[4:35:21]
here
and I guess we have t o
[4:35:23]
recognize t hat.
>> can I ask a question,
mayor?
[4:35:25]
>> you could.
Er
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>> when it comes to marathon
[4:35:31]
in the city of marathon, th
the
[4:35:32]
the
contractor pick up the
garbage.
[4:35:37]
>> yes, sir.
Have any influence on the
[4:35:42]
have any influence on the
changes we would be making?
[4:35:47]
>> no, I'm not sure the ex
[4:35:48]
legal mechanism for h ow we do
not
[4:35:50]
not
normally consult with them on
[4:35:53]
it, we set the rates based
[4:35:55]
upon -- I et assist service we
it
[4:35:58]
it
cost neutral to the
taxpayers,
[4:36:01]
they pay the same special
that
[4:36:05]
that
everybody else does.
[4:36:08]
>> I agree that I look
forward
[4:36:11]
to seeing your
recommendations
[4:36:15]
because you all have all the
information t o make an
[4:36:21]
informed decision and a
correct o ne, so I'll wait to
[4:36:26]
hear what I t is and I know w
need to increase it.
[4:36:31]
a certain a mount.
>> okay.
[4:36:31]
>> are you ready for the
public speakers?
[4:36:35]
>> we c ould.
I t hink that we're pretty
[4:36:36]
much
change that w ith what they
[4:36:40]
change that w ith what they
say
[4:36:44]
if they w ant.
>> greg sullivan representing
[4:37:01]
>> greg sullivan representing
waste management will b e
[4:37:06]
followed by greg con wrath.
>> greg sullivan, waste
[4:37:08]
management, we went through a
six m onth t county requested
[4:37:12]
six m onth t county requested
a
[4:37:14]
financial audit for f r the
four franchises which w e
[4:37:17]
provided which also helped
solidify a lot of the numbers
[4:37:22]
so there was no guessing
games, and as everyone up
[4:37:25]
there knows, prices are up,
we
[4:37:28]
don't have the luxury of
raising o ur prices as a
[4:37:33]
different kind of b usiness
might I f it's grocery store
[4:37:35]
or
a c ar repair, we're your
[4:37:36]
partners, we've been leer a
[4:37:38]
laong time, we want to stay
[4:37:40]
here ra long time and we're
raised our housing allowance
[4:37:44]
raised our housing allowance
another $ 250 a month, in the
[4:37:50]
key, I have 80 people, so
[4:37:53]
that's a pretty good chunk of
[4:37:54]
dollars, and even with that,
down at the lower keys, rent
[4:37:56]
is not cheap, w ith the
changes
[4:37:58]
that's going to h appen at
roy's trailer park, t here's
[4:38:04]
going to be a l ot of folks
[4:38:07]
looking for places and I know
[4:38:08]
that new record's k has got
top o f the 300 they already
[4:38:12]
top o f the 300 they already
[4:38:13]
have, so any questions, if
your time?
[4:38:18]
your time?
>> alright, thank y ou.
[4:38:21]
>> greg c on wrath who is
representing marathon garbage
[4:38:27]
services and he is the final
speaker.
[4:38:30]
>> thank you.
>>
>> g ood afternoon,
[4:38:35]
commissioners, I just wanted
to take t his time to thank
[4:38:40]
you
[4:38:39]
all f or this extraordinary
out
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out
what we have to do to make
[4:38:51]
this a workforce, like greg,
we've had a great partnership
[4:38:56]
with you guys and whatever w
so,
[4:39:03]
so,
oil is m ost of our business,
[4:39:07]
it's our tires, our hoses,
hydraulics, t ransmission,
[4:39:10]
motor o il, paint, steel,
everything relies on the
[4:39:14]
price
of oil and we don't know
[4:39:16]
where
that went, and I also wanted
[4:39:19]
to thank staff because they
with us f or this
[4:39:21]
with us f or this
presentation,
[4:39:24]
putting it together f or you
guys, s o I really appreciate
[4:39:29]
your time.
>> I have a question,
[4:39:31]
something I 've wondered
about,
[4:39:34]
are most of your workers
living inside monroe county
[4:39:37]
or
not?
>> no, most o f my workers
[4:39:40]
come
from florida city and
homestead.
[4:39:42]
>> wow.
Er they come down --
[4:39:46]
er they come down --
>> they d rive down here?
[4:39:51]
>> yeah, I have a couple of
bring
[4:39:52]
bring
them down but I also give
[4:39:54]
them
a tank of g as so that the
[4:39:57]
charge isn't that h igh so
that
[4:40:01]
they will b ring the employees
so they're not charging so
[4:40:05]
so they're not charging so
much.
[4:40:06]
>> well, good, good.
That's the state of things
[4:40:08]
I'm
afraid.
>> yeah.
[4:40:09]
>> and I just was driving
down
[4:40:14]
to the meeting yesterday and
noticed further d own the road
[4:40:19]
noticed further d own the road
up, help wanted, free rent.
[4:40:23]
up, help wanted, free rent.
That's a smart employer.
[4:40:27]
>> yeah.
In hindsight, I should have
[4:40:30]
bought an apartment building.
>> in h idingbacker hind
[4:40:32]
siekt,
we should h ave all bought
half
[4:40:36]
the keys 30 years ago.
>> anything e lse?
[4:40:39]
>> no, thank you.
>> thank you, commissioners.
[4:40:43]
>> thank you.
>> do we need to take any
[4:40:47]
action today or just --
>> well, ao if gotten in
[4:40:51]
trouble before for saying no,
[4:40:52]
just give m e a head nod, but
[4:40:54]
if it's the s ense of the
provide some extraordinary
[4:40:59]
provide some extraordinary
relief on this, we'll come
[4:41:00]
back with s omething the next
>> specific, yeah.
[4:41:03]
>> specific, yeah.
>> and I think that's really
[4:41:07]
all I'm g oing to need at thi
point.
[4:41:10]
>> yes.
>> I'm now going to go off
[4:41:13]
script and make one
observation f or my staff and
[4:41:17]
one o f the things that greg
[4:41:18]
just made t he point is not
of
[4:41:21]
of
his materials are g oing up as
[4:41:24]
we approach budge season,
you're going the hear from me
[4:41:28]
multiple times as w e go
forward, everything that
[4:41:30]
we're
buying to r epair county
[4:41:33]
buildings I s also going up,
the c ost of operations, ask
[4:41:38]
that's going to b ear on our
budget projections, you're
[4:41:41]
going to see them next month,
please keep t hat in mind.
[4:41:45]
we're suffering u nder the
same
[4:41:47]
supply chain things that
everybody else is.
[4:41:51]
and w ith that, I'll accept
your guidance that we should
[4:41:56]
come back w ith some
[4:41:57]
extraordinary relief for the
[4:42:00]
franchisees, and I thank you
>> thank you, kevin.
[4:42:06]
>> thank you, kevin.
And w e are concluded, as I
[4:42:10]
believe, so we will adjourn
this meeting.
Thank y ou.