[0:19] >> I thought so.

[0:36] Ms. Tanya Mendez

[0:37] will lead us

[0:38] in the pledge.

[0:43] >> I pledge allegiance to the

[0:44] Flag of the United States of

[0:45] America and to the

[0:46] Republic for which it stands,

[0:48] one nation under God,

[0:50] indivisible,

[0:51] with liberty and justice

[0:53] for all.

[1:00] >> First off, I'd like to say

[1:01] Mr. Darren Horan, a school

[1:06] board member, has a family

[1:08] emergency and will not be

[1:09] in attendance at this meeting.

[1:16] >> I recommend the board adopt

[1:17] the agenda as presented.

[1:20] >> Move.

[1:24] >> Second.

[1:25] >> Second with a comment.

[1:27] I want to move

[1:28] action items 16 consent

[1:32] item 16 to action, please.

[1:36] That's the contract

[1:40] with the renewal contract

[1:41] with Amira Learning LLC.

[1:47] >> Any further discussion?

[1:48] >> You got it right?

[1:51] >> Okay, the agenda is

[1:52] approved.

[1:56] >> I recommend the board

[1:57] approve the minutes from the

[1:58] June 9th, 2026 school board

[1:59] meeting.

[2:01] >> So moved.

[2:06] >> Second.

[2:07] >> Any discussion? Any no

[2:12] votes? Hearing none,

[2:13] the minutes are approved.

[2:31] >> At this time, we have Ms.

[2:32] Kelly Keefe requesting 3

[2:34] minutes.

[2:48] >> Wait a minute.

[2:49] >> Let me I'm going

[2:50] to read first

[2:51] before you start.

[2:52] Presentations

[2:53] to the board are limited to 3

[2:54] minutes

[2:55] for each individual speaker and

[2:56] 5 minutes

[2:57] for the representative

[2:58] of a designated group.

[2:59] Transfer of time between

[3:00] individuals and, or groups is

[3:01] not permitted. Letters

[3:02] submitted to each board member

[3:03] and/or the board secretary

[3:04] prior to a board meeting will

[3:05] not additionally be read

[3:06] into the record. All statements

[3:07] must be directed towards the

[3:09] board. No person may address or

[3:10] question board members

[3:11] individually, and board members

[3:12] will not engage in a dialogue

[3:13] with persons making public

[3:14] comment. Furthermore, all

[3:15] speakers agree to abide

[3:16] by the Code of Conduct of

[3:18] Citizens Input, School Board

[3:19] Policy 0169.1, and will begin

[3:23] their presentation by stating

[3:25] their full name and their city

[3:27] or town of residence

[3:28] for the record.

[3:32] >> My name is Kelly Keefe and

[3:33] my town of residence is Key

[3:35] Largo, Florida. I'm here

[3:37] on behalf of the Coral Shores

[3:40] wrestling program. I am a proud

[3:43] mother of a actually, he was

[3:46] the first regional champion in

[3:48] over a decade,

[3:50] and it's because of Coach

[3:52] Dante. I want to recognize

[3:53] Dante Giovanetta for his

[3:54] excellent coaching that he's

[3:56] been providing

[3:58] to our children and our youth

[3:59] of the county. Again, my son

[4:02] took first in regions

[4:04] for the first time in

[4:06] over a decade. There are lots

[4:07] of parents who wish they could

[4:08] have been here this evening

[4:09] to speak on our we just want

[4:13] to spread awareness

[4:14] of the needs of the team.

[4:17] On behalf of Dane Pataboy, he

[4:19] wrote this, so I'm going

[4:20] to read this verbatim. His son

[4:21] is also a wrestler

[4:22] on our team, and he will be a

[4:23] sophomore next year. We are

[4:24] requesting a dedicated

[4:27] wrestling facility for Coral

[4:29] Shores High School because our

[4:30] current training space no

[4:32] longer meets the needs of our

[4:34] current student athletes.

[4:35] First, this is a safety issue.

[4:37] Wrestling requires adequate mat

[4:38] space for athletes

[4:39] to train safely. Our current

[4:40] space is overcrowded,

[4:41] limiting our ability to safely

[4:43] accommodate the athletes

[4:44] currently on the team and

[4:45] preventing future growth.

[4:46] Second, this is a student

[4:48] welfare issue. Wrestling

[4:49] requires strict hygiene

[4:51] standards. A dedicated facility

[4:53] would provide would provide

[4:54] storage for equipment, lockers,

[4:56] laundry, and access

[4:57] to showers, helping maintain a

[5:00] clean and healthy environment

[5:01] for our athletes.

[5:05] Third, this is an equity

[5:07] issue. Girls wrestling is one

[5:09] of the fastest-growing high

[5:10] school sports in America, yet

[5:11] we do not have space or

[5:13] resources to support a

[5:14] dedicated girls program. Our

[5:15] interested female athletes

[5:16] currently have no option but

[5:17] to train with the boys team,

[5:18] limiting participation and

[5:19] opportunity. Most importantly,

[5:22] this investment would support a

[5:23] program that has already

[5:24] demonstrated success. Coral

[5:26] Shores wrestlers have qualified

[5:28] for the state championships,

[5:29] proving that our athletes can

[5:31] compete at the highest level

[5:32] in Florida despite limited

[5:33] resources. And facilities.

[5:38] Imagine what these students

[5:39] could accomplish with a

[5:40] training environment designed

[5:41] for their sport. Wrestling is

[5:43] also widely recognized

[5:44] for developing discipline,

[5:46] accountability, perseverance,

[5:47] leadership, and resilience

[5:48] qualities that translate

[5:50] directly into success

[5:51] in the workforce, military,

[5:53] higher education,

[5:54] and community leadership. The

[5:56] lessons learned on the

[5:57] wrestling mat help shape

[5:58] productive citizens who

[6:00] contribute positively

[6:01] to their communities long after

[6:03] their athletic careers end. A

[6:04] dedicated wrestling facility is

[6:05] not simply an investment

[6:08] in a sport. It is an investment

[6:10] in student safety, equal

[6:11] opportunity, character

[6:13] development,

[6:15] and the future success

[6:16] of the young people of Monroe

[6:19] County. Thank you for your time

[6:20] and consideration.

[6:25] >> Next up to speak, we have

[6:26] Mr. Brian Keefe requesting 3

[6:28] minutes.

[6:36] >> Hello everybody.

[6:37] As we said, my name is

[6:38] Brian Keefe. I'm a resident

[6:39] of Key Largo and my son is a

[6:41] wrestler that has been

[6:42] wrestling with Dante

[6:46] since probably he was about 12

[6:51] years old through the club

[6:53] program and has been wrestling

[6:54] through now his junior year,

[6:57] which he had a very successful

[6:59] season. But along with other

[7:01] wrestlers that had a very

[7:02] successful season,

[7:05] they did it so because of

[7:07] Dante and all the support of

[7:09] any previous coaches that we no

[7:11] longer have

[7:13] with us who have left because

[7:15] of the lack

[7:16] of facilities here, being

[7:19] Zach Sherman and his buddy

[7:22] Blay, who were NCAA

[7:25] All-Americans and great

[7:26] wrestlers. We really need

[7:30] facilities

[7:32] to ensure the safety

[7:34] of our boys,

[7:37] but not only that,

[7:38] to grow our program. We have

[7:41] the ability and the strength

[7:47] and good enough wrestlers

[7:48] to be one

[7:49] of the top programs possibly

[7:50] in the state, but because Our

[7:52] program is so shorted and our

[7:54] space is limited. We cannot

[7:55] even provide enough space

[7:59] for a full team

[8:01] to wrestle and practice

[8:04] on a daily basis. Dante has

[8:06] talked

[8:08] about running two practices

[8:09] back to back just to be able

[8:11] to provide enough space

[8:14] for the guys

[8:16] to wrestle and practice safely,

[8:19] which. Is a huge commitment

[8:21] by himself. So we're just

[8:24] trying to make awareness

[8:29] to you guys. We have a ton

[8:32] of parents. Obviously they're

[8:35] not all here because they're

[8:40] working, but I know other

[8:42] people have been making you

[8:43] guys aware of our situation.

[8:44] But we wanted the parents

[8:47] to come out and say,

[8:48] currently we have 3 wrestlers

[8:49] that are ranked in the state,

[8:50] which is a huge accomplishment

[8:51] for a small school like Coral

[8:53] Shores. They could possibly

[8:54] place this upcoming year. So we

[8:56] just want to look for your

[8:57] guys' support and be open

[8:59] to ideas

[9:01] to helping our situation.

[9:03] >> Thank you

[9:04] for your time.

[9:07] >> Next up to speak, we have

[9:09] Mr. Jim Matter or Mateo. I'm

[9:12] sorry,

[9:18] I couldn't read the last

[9:20] Okay, Matthias.

[9:21] >> Hi, everybody. My name is

[9:22] Jim Matthias. I live in

[9:23] Tavernier. I'm actually the

[9:25] assistant coach. I help

[9:29] Dante. Sorry, I'm filthy dirty.

[9:32] I just came from a job. I own

[9:34] SaberCon, so I don't know, you

[9:36] guys have probably seen my

[9:38] trucks around. Just to Touch

[9:40] on a few things. Our practice

[9:41] room is a safety issue. That's

[9:47] the first and foremost thing.

[9:50] I wrestled my entire life. I

[9:52] wrestled Division 1

[9:54] in college. I came in to help

[9:57] Dante this year. My son was the

[9:58] first sophomore to place

[10:00] in the state tournament, for

[10:01] Coral Shores this year,

[10:03] as a sophomore. Sterling and

[10:06] Kelly's son won regionals,

[10:07] the first kid in 10 years. We

[10:09] had 4 district champs. Right

[10:13] now we are the number, 2 team

[10:17] in the state, to watch

[10:19] out for, as per Cobra, which is

[10:22] the biggest wrestling, website

[10:24] in the state. We can't do it

[10:26] with the size

[10:27] of the room we have,

[10:29] point blank.

[10:30] We're, if you guys want

[10:31] to see the room, it's right

[10:32] across the courtyard

[10:34] over here. With 20 kids

[10:37] in there, it's condensed, it's

[10:39] small, it's extremely hot,

[10:42] the mats are slippery. You

[10:45] know, some of these kids are,

[10:48] you know, could get hurt

[10:50] at any time. So what we've had

[10:51] to do is we have to split the

[10:53] room basically where we have a

[10:57] 2.5-hour practice, but these

[10:58] kids are really only getting

[10:59] like an hour and 20 minutes

[11:01] of work tops. Because the room

[11:02] is split in 2, which, you know,

[11:04] which is a major issue. Just

[11:05] to touch on Bryant's point,

[11:07] Zach Sherman was a 2-time

[11:08] All-American at University of

[11:10] North Carolina. He was here.

[11:12] He was coaching our kids. He

[11:14] left, you know, because we

[11:15] couldn't get a facility built,

[11:17] and now he has a massive

[11:18] facility in Immokalee,

[11:20] Florida, where, you know, he's

[11:22] training, you know, 120 kids.

[11:23] And, and this is the type of

[11:25] caliber guys that we're losing

[11:27] because of this.

[11:32] Dante is a charter boat

[11:35] captain. You know, he's

[11:37] extremely busy. I have a

[11:41] company that I run. I'm

[11:42] extremely busy. Our number one

[11:43] thing is the kids. Like, it

[11:44] really is at the end

[11:45] of the day. I've personally

[11:46] over the last 2 years probably

[11:47] spent about $7,000

[11:48] of my own money on equipment,

[11:49] on uniforms, which is something

[11:50] I still never understand.

[11:52] Like, I don't understand.

[11:53] In a town

[11:54] of you know millionaires,

[11:56] how there's no money

[11:58] for sports? I don't get it.

[12:01] But I mean,

[12:02] I know everybody has to

[12:05] fundraise and do everything

[12:06] else. But you know, it's

[12:07] something I don't understand.

[12:09] If you compare our facilities

[12:11] to Key West, we're we're not

[12:15] even in the

[12:16] in the same area code.

[12:17] Like it's it's bizarre

[12:19] to me the amount

[12:20] of money that's poured in

[12:21] down there. Their wrestling

[12:23] facility they have

[12:25] locker rooms,

[12:26] they have a weight room, they

[12:28] have a massive you know

[12:30] freestanding facility with

[12:31] with mats wall to wall. And I

[12:33] love Chaz, and we love those

[12:34] guys. We actually go

[12:35] down and train with them. My

[12:37] son just actually wrestled

[12:38] for them

[12:39] on an all-star team up in up

[12:41] in Miami. But the other the

[12:45] other issue too was girls

[12:46] wrestling. Girls wrestling is

[12:48] the fastest growing sport in

[12:49] in the country. It's massive.

[12:50] We have girls that are

[12:52] interested in our team to come

[12:53] out for our team. And when you

[12:55] put them in a room with, you

[12:57] know, 20, 20, 20 boys, you

[13:00] know, it's, it's, you know,

[13:03] it's a little intimidating. So

[13:06] I don't know if that means my

[13:08] time's up or but yeah,

[13:09] so that's really all I got

[13:10] to say. So just trying

[13:11] to bring awareness

[13:13] to the sport and, you know,

[13:14] what's going on. Appreciate it.

[13:16] >> Next up to speak, we have

[13:17] Mr. Richard Russell requesting

[13:19] three minutes.

[13:30] >> I'm Richard Russell,

[13:31] unemployed resident of Isle

[13:33] Morada, Florida. I first of all

[13:39] certainly didn't plan to,

[13:40] but I want

[13:41] to echo the sentiments

[13:43] of our wrestling parents. We

[13:44] have a very legitimate

[13:47] concern here, and it obviously

[13:49] involves safety and liability.

[13:52] We have a first-class program.

[13:55] I know the bigger vision is

[13:56] that we will have a great

[13:58] provision when we do the

[14:02] renovations and restorations,

[14:03] but we need a bridge somewhere

[14:04] in between. I have a couple

[14:06] ideas, and I'll throw those

[14:08] out later on at some point.

[14:10] The reason I came here is just

[14:11] express my appreciation. Thank

[14:13] you. To the school board,

[14:14] the entire school board,

[14:15] for seeing our baseball field

[14:17] through fruition. Hopefully

[14:18] that will be done tonight. I

[14:20] salute Superintendent Tierney

[14:24] and also Village Manager Ron

[14:27] Saunders

[14:29] for their proactive move in

[14:31] getting together and

[14:32] representing their respective

[14:33] entities. and pushing this

[14:35] thing across the finish line. I

[14:39] think that was sort

[14:41] of a critical step,

[14:42] and I thank you

[14:43] for being aggressive

[14:44] in doing that. Also grateful

[14:46] to our village and Mayor Don

[14:48] Horton and our Vice Mayor

[14:50] over here, Sharon Mahoney,

[14:53] for their spirit of

[14:55] cooperation. I think everybody

[14:57] came together here eventually

[14:58] because, of basically the

[15:00] overwhelming need, the greater

[15:02] need, the greater concern That

[15:03] being of our children, I think

[15:05] ultimately there'll be an

[15:06] enhancement for both Coral

[15:07] Shores provisions but also

[15:09] for village provisions,

[15:10] and they'll be enduring. They

[15:12] can they can weather storms.

[15:14] They can they can last

[15:15] for years instead of months.

[15:17] I'd be remiss too if I didn't

[15:18] say a special thank you

[15:19] to board member Conn. Mindy,

[15:29] thank you so much

[15:33] for calling. last week, that,

[15:37] that I was so honored and

[15:38] grateful for the you reaching

[15:40] out and soliciting, you know,

[15:42] my opinion,

[15:43] but as it was representative,

[15:45] I think,

[15:46] of our school as a whole, our

[15:47] administration, our staff,

[15:48] and I think our community

[15:49] in general. I think and I,

[15:50] I applaud you

[15:51] for looking full spectrum,

[15:52] trying

[15:53] to weigh every possibility.

[15:54] That's you know, that's

[15:57] certainly commendable.

[16:00] But I also thank you for

[16:02] your willingness and openness

[16:04] to, to listen to what I felt

[16:06] to be the finger on the pulse

[16:07] of our needs and concerns up

[16:08] here at Coral Shores and the

[16:10] Upper Keys. So I thank you all,

[16:12] and I look forward

[16:13] to hopefully the completion of

[16:14] a baseball facility that

[16:15] includes some dugouts and

[16:16] bullpens and,

[16:17] and moving forward. Thank you,

[16:18] guys.

[16:23] >> Next up to speak, we have

[16:24] Mr. Tony Hammond requesting 3

[16:26] minutes.

[16:36] >> Well, thank you everyone.

[16:37] >> I'm delighted

[16:38] to be here.

[16:39] And for those who don't know

[16:40] me, I'm Tony Hammond and I've

[16:41] been a lifetime resident here.

[16:43] Also, I joined Coach Russell in

[16:44] the unemployment ranks as a no,

[16:46] I'm teasing. But I was a 2-time

[16:49] head baseball coach at Coral

[16:50] Shores and now assistant

[16:52] baseball coach at Coral

[16:53] Shores. Nothing new to add

[16:54] to this other than the clock is

[16:57] ticking pretty quickly. We need

[16:58] to get this done. We need to

[17:01] get it done tonight so we can

[17:03] be able to play. We have our

[17:04] first conditioning, I believe,

[17:07] is January 9th

[17:08] for arm conditioning.

[17:09] Obviously, the first games will

[17:12] be in that first week in

[17:14] February. So we need

[17:15] to get moving on this,

[17:16] and thank you

[17:17] for your attention to it,

[17:18] and I look forward

[17:20] to a good outcome tonight.

[17:22] Thanks.

[17:30] >> Next up to speak, we have

[17:34] Ms. Anna Richards requesting 3

[17:35] minutes.

[17:49] >> Anna Richards. I'm still

[17:50] employed.

[17:55] Mother of baseball players

[17:58] and spent many times

[17:59] at this field. And I'm just

[18:01] going to reiterate what

[18:02] everybody else is saying is

[18:03] please finish this up. We've

[18:04] been working on this for over a

[18:06] year and it's really become

[18:07] quite tiresome actually. But I

[18:09] hope that you guys will

[18:10] finalize what's going on,

[18:11] make it agreeable

[18:13] to everybody.

[18:18] And I'll say the same thing

[18:19] I said last time I was here.

[18:21] It's not fair. These guys are

[18:22] saying the exact same thing.

[18:24] The amount

[18:25] of tax dollars that the Upper

[18:26] Keys people put

[18:28] into the school system is, you

[18:30] know, just like the Key West

[18:31] people do.

[18:32] And they should

[18:33] these kids up here should

[18:34] get the same facilities and

[18:35] same treatment that goes

[18:37] into all the Key West

[18:39] facilities. So I hope that you

[18:40] guys really, really think

[18:41] about that.

[18:42] And do what's right

[18:43] for the kids up here as well.

[18:44] That's it.

[18:49] >> Mr. Dick, that

[18:50] concludes citizens' input.

[19:02] >> It's up to you. You have any

[19:03] gems this time?

[19:08] >> No, sir.

[19:14] >> All items listed as consent

[19:15] agenda items are considered

[19:17] routine and non-controversial

[19:18] by the school board and will be

[19:19] approved by a single motion.

[19:20] There will be no separate

[19:21] discussion of these items.

[19:22] Prior to this meeting, board

[19:23] members have had the

[19:25] opportunity to review each

[19:26] of these items and may request

[19:27] that any item be moved

[19:28] to action item

[19:29] for individual consideration.

[19:31] That being said, I recommend

[19:33] the board approve the consent

[19:34] agenda as amended.

[19:37] >> So moved.

[19:40] >> Second.

[19:42] >> Any discussion? Hearing

[19:45] none,

[19:46] consent agenda is approved.

[19:53] >> We have 2 reports this

[19:54] evening. The first,

[19:56] we're going to talk about some

[19:57] of the work that the team some

[19:58] of the very high-quality work

[19:59] the team has been doing

[20:00] around kindergarten kickoff.

[20:01] The first iteration,

[20:02] the first report we had talked

[20:03] about the things we're doing

[20:04] to get students enrolled in

[20:05] This will be the ongoing

[20:07] conversation and coaching we're

[20:09] having

[20:11] with the 4th graders turning

[20:12] into or 4-year-olds turning

[20:14] into kindergartners in

[20:17] August. So we'll introduce

[20:19] Ms. Christina McPherson.

[20:30] >> Good evening, School Board

[20:31] Chairman John Dick, school

[20:32] board members, and

[20:33] Superintendent Tierney.

[20:35] Tonight we continue to

[20:36] highlight the outstanding work

[20:37] of our kindergarten kickoff

[20:41] events by sharing the wonderful

[20:42] videos and summer lessons

[20:43] for families that our Head

[20:44] Start and VPK teams have

[20:46] created this summer. I would

[20:47] like to personally recognize

[20:49] Ms. Jennifer Walker and Tanya

[20:51] Mendez, who is here tonight,

[20:52] For the vision and creativity

[20:53] that you will see this evening.

[20:55] The hours of hard work and

[20:58] dedication are evident even

[21:00] outside of the workday

[21:01] to make learning fun

[21:02] for our families. All the

[21:04] summer learning videos are

[21:05] published in English,

[21:08] Spanish, and Creole, and I

[21:09] think Ms. Mendez can teach

[21:10] Creole now. She's definitely

[21:16] worked hard.

[21:20] Maria?

[21:23] Go back one. As registration

[21:31] continues, schools provide

[21:33] every new family and student

[21:34] with a game board which

[21:36] highlights literacy and math

[21:37] skills with safety tips that

[21:40] will continue to increase our

[21:41] kindergarten readiness rates

[21:42] in the fall. We have even had

[21:46] grandparents and parents call

[21:47] in the community and ask where

[21:50] they can purchase one.

[21:52] >> Did they want

[21:53] to speak?

[21:55] >> As you can see, the lessons

[21:56] that have already been launched

[21:58] this summer my personal one is

[21:59] Name Writing Made Easy. It's

[22:01] messy but a lot of fun. They do

[22:02] it with shaving cream. It's a

[22:03] great learning tool. The summer

[22:04] videos include staff

[22:06] beyond the classroom,

[22:08] including our SROs, teachers,

[22:09] and our very own maintenance

[22:14] staff. Everyone in our Monroe

[22:17] County School District family

[22:20] has been engaged and building

[22:21] these personal videos

[22:23] for our families. And we'll

[22:25] continue to do this throughout

[22:27] the summer, as you can see. We

[22:31] currently have 411 students,

[22:33] kindergartners enrolled. Today

[22:35] makes 420. So that's great

[22:37] news. And we are saving a seat

[22:39] for you, class of 2039.

[22:41] That's Key Largo School

[22:44] pictured. Parents may view the

[22:49] lessons through Facebook,

[22:50] Monroe County School District

[22:54] websites, our school websites,

[22:55] and currently in the short 2

[22:56] to 3 weeks that have been out,

[22:57] we've had over 2,000 views

[22:58] of the videos. At this time,

[23:01] I would like to preview and

[23:03] highlight a short collection

[23:05] of the videos. He's got it

[23:13] downloaded for you.

[23:16] >> There we go. There you go.

[23:30] >> [VIDEO PLAYING]

[25:38] >> Do you have any questions?

[25:44] >> Work.

[25:46] >> Thank you. Thank you, Ms.

[25:49] Walker and Ms. Mendez. They've

[25:50] done a fabulous job.

[25:53] >> I think Ms. Walker is doing

[25:54] a fabulous job running

[25:56] around the world. All right.

[26:00] At this time, my understanding

[26:03] is that a couple

[26:04] of people wanted to get in

[26:05] to do public comment. So we're

[26:08] going to go back and open up

[26:09] the public comment. I was

[26:11] concerned because, Ed, I

[26:13] thought maybe you had locked

[26:14] your when I saw that you were

[26:16] here and didn't go up

[26:17] to speak. So we all need the

[26:20] pleasure

[26:21] of hearing you speak today. So

[26:23] please, Ed. And somebody else,

[26:28] right? There's 2 people. My

[26:31] understanding is there's

[26:32] another good person.

[26:48] >> I sent you all 7 pages worth

[26:50] of illuminating reading, which

[26:53] I presume you guys can read

[26:55] on your own. I'm just going

[26:56] to go over a couple

[26:58] of lowlights not highlights,

[26:59] lowlights. Emails have recently

[27:01] surfaced documenting that the

[27:02] village manager Ron Saunders

[27:04] has partnered

[27:07] with the village councilor

[27:08] Don Horton to cut an

[27:10] out of the sunshine deal with

[27:12] the school board that

[27:14] dramatically contradicts and

[27:15] extensively overrules the

[27:17] official baseball field license

[27:19] wording adopted twice, 5-0 and

[27:21] 4-0, after energetic Islamorada

[27:24] Council debate and extensive

[27:26] public input summarized

[27:27] by multiple lengthy meetings

[27:29] in an official Islamorada

[27:31] Citizen Advisory Committee,

[27:35] which you'll hear from soon.

[27:38] In his 27 April 26th speech

[27:40] to the Annamarie Parks and

[27:41] Recreation Committee, Village

[27:43] Manager Saunders revealed he

[27:44] had been privately carrying

[27:45] issue conversations

[27:46] between school board members,

[27:48] conversations and possible vote

[27:49] polling, which the Sunshine

[27:51] Law would seem to prohibit.

[27:57] Yet the Horton Saunders not

[27:58] publicly agenda, not majority

[28:00] vote authorized amendments.

[28:01] The thing that you're looking

[28:03] at today hasn't been publicly

[28:05] debated or voted in

[28:08] Islamorada. Perhaps school

[28:11] officials and lawyers have

[28:16] misunderstood the significant

[28:20] difference between the

[28:23] Islamorada mayor and the Key

[28:26] West mayor. The Islamorada is a

[28:28] purely ceremonial position,

[28:30] which rotates once a year

[28:32] on an internal vote,

[28:33] whereas the Key West mayor is a

[28:34] real office elected

[28:37] by an independent election,

[28:39] as I recall, and has some real

[28:41] longevity and some real

[28:43] authorities. Thus, the

[28:47] Islamorada attorney works only

[28:48] for the majority of the

[28:50] Village Council, not

[28:53] for the ceremonial mayor,

[28:54] who had no legitimate authority

[28:55] to unilaterally order the

[28:58] attorney and the village

[28:59] manager to officially proffer

[29:00] any written amendment

[29:05] to the superintendent. Not your

[29:07] fault, it's their fault. Yet

[29:09] at the recent 12 May Island

[29:13] Marauder Council meeting you

[29:14] guys didn't get

[29:15] to attend all these some such

[29:16] Sunshine contradictions were

[29:17] repeatedly described, with

[29:18] village officials adamantly

[29:19] claiming listen to this, Mr.

[29:20] Lawyer that they could

[29:21] legitimately interact

[29:22] with school officials outside

[29:23] of public venues as though they

[29:25] themselves were private

[29:27] citizens, when it would seem in

[29:30] fact that once elected or

[29:31] appointed to public office,

[29:32] they remain, like you all do,

[29:34] public officials bound by the

[29:35] Sunshine Law 24/7, 365, whether

[29:41] it's convenient or not. The

[29:43] 12 May Alum Rada Council

[29:44] meeting comment,

[29:47] public comment starts at 23 I'm

[29:49] sorry, at . And at , leading

[29:51] citizen ball field advisory

[29:54] committee member Jamie Engel

[29:57] asked publicly why the mayor

[29:58] and the village manager had

[29:59] ordered the drafting

[30:03] of that major written amendment

[30:04] to the ball field license

[30:06] wording already passed that

[30:08] conflicted with the 5040

[30:10] Wording of record. It's the

[30:12] only wording of record. At ,

[30:14] Councilmember Don Horton states

[30:17] that he lobbies school board

[30:23] members as a private

[30:24] individual. No, he doesn't.

[30:29] Despite his prior official

[30:30] permit wording, he voted

[30:31] for twice. During the 4 years I

[30:33] was myself elected, Keys

[30:35] White, to this school board, I

[30:37] had many professional briefings

[30:39] on the applicable restrictions

[30:40] of the Florida Government and

[30:41] the Sunshine Law

[30:43] by that lawyer. But

[30:45] for those readers who have not,

[30:50] here's a few possible relevant

[30:52] quotes from the Florida

[30:53] Attorney General's 2025 manual,

[30:55] which I'd be glad

[30:56] to loan you.

[31:10] >> Here's the best one.

[31:11] Sunshine law is of both

[31:13] constitutional and statutory

[31:20] dimensions. Florida Supreme

[31:21] Court, Town of Palm Beach v.

[31:22] Gradison. Write down

[31:23] Gradison. The Sunshine Law is

[31:25] to be construed so as to

[31:26] frustrate all evasive devices.

[31:27] That's pretty clear. Paris v.

[31:28] State is a warning about

[31:31] conducting private meetings

[31:34] through the use

[31:35] of surrogates. This situation

[31:40] may be barely lawful, but it's

[31:41] certainly ethically awful and

[31:43] needs a strong dose of

[31:47] sunshine-saturated attitude

[31:48] adjustment,

[31:50] and I will personally buy

[31:51] Captain LeFere a new set of

[31:53] Ray-Bans to mute the glare of

[31:55] such long overdue sunshine.

[32:14] >> Next up to speak, we have

[32:16] Miss Jamie Engel requesting 3

[32:18] minutes.

[32:32] >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[32:33] Good evening. Jamie Engel,

[32:37] Islamorada. I understand that

[32:41] the school board district

[32:43] sorry, the school district

[32:44] attorney, the village attorney,

[32:46] and the village manager,

[32:47] with some input

[32:49] from the mayor, have negotiated

[32:50] a scaled-down version

[32:51] of the baseball field project

[32:52] at Founders Park. The revised

[32:53] scope now focuses

[32:56] on the baseball field itself,

[32:57] including artificial turf,

[32:58] field prep, drainage, and some

[33:00] of the bullpens, dugouts,

[33:01] and some new perimeter fencing.

[33:02] The baseball field license

[33:03] agreement currently

[33:04] on your agenda for tonight's

[33:05] meeting is not the same

[33:06] agreement that was unanimously

[33:07] approved by the Village

[33:08] Council on January 8th and

[33:09] again on March 14th

[33:12] with no changes, additions,

[33:14] or deletions by any of the

[33:16] council members. I understand

[33:18] that the Village Council gave

[33:19] the Village Manager the

[33:21] authority to negotiate the

[33:22] license agreement, Based on the

[33:24] twice unanimously approved

[33:26] village version. The original

[33:28] village version approved

[33:30] agreement still exists. It has

[33:33] already been reviewed and

[33:34] approved

[33:36] by the village council. This

[33:37] process does not need to start

[33:39] over with a new version of the

[33:40] baseball field license

[33:42] agreement. If your concern is

[33:43] getting the new baseball field

[33:45] at Founders Park completed so

[33:46] our kids and community can

[33:47] begin using it in January of

[33:48] 2027, The solution is really

[33:50] very easy. All you need

[33:53] to do is have your attorney go

[33:55] to page 3 of the

[33:57] village-approved agreement

[33:59] from January 8th, go to

[34:01] Section B under improvements,

[34:03] and strike out the items that

[34:05] are no longer part

[34:07] of the scaled-down project.

[34:09] That's it. You can then sign

[34:12] the agreement as written and

[34:13] already approved by the

[34:14] Village of Islamorada with only

[34:16] those necessary changes to

[34:18] reflect the scaled-down

[34:19] project. The project can begin.

[34:21] The kids in the community can

[34:23] have a new baseball field

[34:24] for next season. That is this

[34:27] is not

[34:29] about delaying this process.

[34:30] It is exactly the opposite.

[34:32] This is about keeping the

[34:34] project moving forward under

[34:36] the agreement that was already

[34:37] approved by the Village

[34:39] Council instead

[34:40] of delaying the project

[34:42] by starting over with a new

[34:43] agreement that has not gone

[34:44] before the council And does not

[34:45] appear

[34:48] to offer the same protections

[34:49] for the village or the

[34:50] community. We all want

[34:51] to see the kids playing on this

[34:52] new baseball field as soon as

[34:54] possible. We all want to see

[34:56] this project move forward,

[34:58] but it should move forward

[34:59] under the village-approved

[35:00] agreement that protects

[35:01] Founders Park, protects the

[35:02] community access,

[35:03] and protects Islamorada

[35:07] residents now and

[35:08] in the future. If you support

[35:10] getting the baseball field

[35:11] completed, And opening it up

[35:13] for the community and the kids'

[35:14] use by January of 2027. Make

[35:15] the simple edit

[35:16] to the improvements section,

[35:18] sign it,

[35:21] and let's get this field built

[35:23] for the kids in our community

[35:24] so they can play ball.

[35:36] >> Second report will be on

[35:37] Founders Park baseball field

[35:38] improvements by Mr. LaFere.

[36:10] >> Good evening, Mr.

[36:11] Chairman, board members, Mr.

[36:12] Superintendent. As

[36:14] Superintendent indicated, here

[36:15] to give you an overview

[36:18] on the Founders Park GMP that

[36:20] we have on your action item

[36:22] for consideration today. So as

[36:24] you all know,

[36:25] based upon the input we got

[36:26] from you all and

[36:27] from the village,

[36:28] staff was tasked to go back to

[36:30] our contractor and have them

[36:31] consider a reduced scope

[36:35] contract for us

[36:37] to consider bringing to you,

[36:39] which is what we've done. So

[36:40] that contract and the

[36:41] supporting documents were

[36:42] provided

[36:44] to us a week ago today, just

[36:45] in time for us

[36:47] to get them linked up

[36:48] to the board member for

[36:49] to the board meeting agenda

[36:51] for your consideration. The

[36:53] reduced scope of work

[36:55] for this particular project

[36:57] Is the artificial turf

[36:59] surface, the dugouts, the

[37:02] bullpens, the backstop,

[37:03] the perimeter fencing,

[37:05] and the knee wall. Not included

[37:06] in this scope of work,

[37:07] which was

[37:08] in the original scope of work

[37:09] of the project,

[37:14] is the concession and press box

[37:15] building, the bleachers, the

[37:16] scoreboard, major walkways,

[37:17] asphalt paving and restriping,

[37:18] and obviously any

[37:19] of the systems HVAC, fire

[37:23] alarm, all the

[37:24] building-associated systems are

[37:26] all taken out of that scope

[37:27] of work. The timeline assuming

[37:29] that both the school board

[37:31] tonight approves it and the

[37:35] Village Council

[37:36] at their meeting on July 7th

[37:37] approves this contract

[37:39] amendment, the contractor would

[37:41] go ahead and move forward

[37:42] with permitting

[37:44] with the village. They'd move

[37:45] forward with all their

[37:47] procurement that they need

[37:49] for the project,

[37:50] and their plan would be

[37:52] to mobilize on-site at

[37:54] Founders Park on August 10th,

[37:58] with substantial completed with

[38:00] substantial completion

[38:02] currently scheduled for

[38:04] January 15th and final

[38:06] completion scheduled for

[38:07] January 29th. One final note

[38:10] that kind of new development,

[38:13] we convened the Construction

[38:15] Advisory Committee meeting

[38:17] committee last night

[38:19] at a meeting.

[38:20] with the primary goal to review

[38:22] this GMP contract amendment.

[38:24] They did consider it

[38:28] at length, probably for

[38:30] at least 45 minutes, going

[38:31] over it, asking lots

[38:33] of questions, discussing it

[38:34] amongst themselves. But

[38:36] ultimately they did approve it

[38:38] on a 5-0 vote to come to you as

[38:39] a recommended project. So that

[38:41] completes what I've got

[38:43] to present today,

[38:45] pending any questions

[38:47] from the school board.

[38:54] >> I just had one question.

[38:56] What is the life expectancy

[38:57] of the turf? Remind me. I'm

[38:59] sorry,

[39:00] I couldn't remember.

[39:01] >> Typically,

[39:02] in our experience,

[39:03] the industry kind

[39:04] of standard is 10 years.

[39:05] >> Okay. Thank you.

[39:06] >> I have a question too. So

[39:07] this does not has not chosen

[39:09] the contractor

[39:11] for the turf yet, true?

[39:14] >> The price is based on an

[39:16] AstroTurf product that was

[39:19] presented to the Design

[39:21] Committee, but there were 2

[39:24] other vendors that we will

[39:26] consider once this if and when

[39:28] the project is approved,

[39:31] we'll get back with the

[39:34] contractor and either select

[39:35] that product or one

[39:38] of the other 2 that we

[39:42] reviewed. We had some more

[39:44] questions of the contractor

[39:46] at that meeting.

[39:49] >> And did those Do the vendors

[39:52] vary much in the expected use

[39:55] or the warranted uses

[39:56] of them?

[39:58] >> No significant difference

[39:59] between the, the, the 3

[40:00] products that we looked at.

[40:01] The one question we had, one

[40:02] had an environmentally friendly

[40:03] option that we would obviously

[40:04] want to go with,

[40:05] and we didn't know if the other

[40:06] 2 did,

[40:07] and that was being researched

[40:08] at that time.

[40:11] >> Okay, thank you.

[40:14] >> Anyone else? Okay.

[40:46] >> So just briefly, I'm happy

[40:47] to discuss it more in depth

[40:48] with you all if you'd like to

[40:49] at this point, but this license

[40:51] agreement that's being

[40:52] presented is the culmination

[40:54] of myself meeting with the

[40:55] Village's attorney last week

[40:56] and hashing out the terms

[40:57] of the agreement. What is

[40:58] presented is fully agreed upon

[41:00] between myself and the

[41:02] Village's attorney,

[41:04] with the exception of 4 items

[41:05] which I've pointed out to each

[41:07] of you. I'll just mention them

[41:11] real quick again. It's the I'm

[41:13] sorry. It's removing the Phase

[41:16] 1 environmental assessment

[41:18] requirement. prior to

[41:19] construction commencing. A

[41:28] provision in Section 4N

[41:36] requiring the village to pay

[41:37] for any changes it requests in

[41:38] its ownership capacity. A minor

[41:39] provision

[41:41] in 4O just requiring the

[41:42] village

[41:44] to reasonably cooperate

[41:45] with the school board in

[41:46] seeking government approvals.

[41:49] Provision 5B just clarifying

[41:51] that the payment and

[41:53] performance bond requirement

[41:55] can be satisfied by either the

[41:57] contractor or the school board.

[41:59] And the last one is in Section

[42:01] 10, which just clarifies that

[42:03] the insurance requirements

[42:04] apply equally to both parties.

[42:06] I didn't receive express

[42:08] approval from the Village's

[42:10] attorney on that, but Ron did

[42:13] tell me this evening that he

[42:15] believes those provisions are

[42:17] okay. If anybody has any

[42:19] questions

[42:21] on the license agreement,

[42:23] I'm happy

[42:24] to answer them now.

[42:27] >> Otherwise, that's all I

[42:28] have. And as far as the GMP

[42:30] for the project,

[42:31] there's a resolution provided

[42:32] for it so that the approval

[42:41] of the GMP isn't effective

[42:42] until the Village approves the

[42:43] license agreement and any other

[42:44] necessary approvals.

[42:45] >> Hunter, just

[42:46] for the record, we just learned

[42:47] that the length that the

[42:48] expected length of use of the

[42:49] Surface is 10 years. Is that

[42:55] what the where we get

[42:59] to a zero amortization?

[43:03] >> In the agreement that's

[43:04] currently on the agenda,

[43:06] it's set at 8 years.

[43:09] >> Okay.

[43:14] >> And then what happens at 8

[43:16] years?

[43:18] >> So basically, as it's set

[43:20] out pursuant to the schedule

[43:22] that is attached, it, you know,

[43:25] starts at the full price of the

[43:27] improvements and then is

[43:28] reduced

[43:30] in equal amounts such that

[43:32] by year 8, if the village were

[43:33] to terminate the agreement,

[43:35] there would be no money owed

[43:37] absent any sort

[43:40] of major improvements or

[43:41] repairs to the property.

[43:44] >> Okay, and then would we be,

[43:46] if we wanted to stay there,

[43:49] required to make repairs

[43:52] on a field that was not

[43:54] >> No, you're not required

[43:56] to make repairs

[43:57] at any set point in time.

[43:58] That's

[43:59] within your discretion. You

[44:01] know, there is a provision in

[44:02] there saying that if basically

[44:05] there's a, you know,

[44:07] safety issue

[44:08] with the field due

[44:09] to its age or something

[44:11] of the sort, that You're the

[44:13] school board is assuming all

[44:14] liability, you know,

[44:16] associated with that. But as

[44:20] far as renovations and the

[44:22] useful life, it's contemplated

[44:23] in there that you go by either

[44:25] the manufacturer's warranty or

[44:26] an expert's opinion

[44:28] on the remaining useful life

[44:29] of the field.

[44:31] >> And then you may not know

[44:32] this, this might be a question

[44:34] for Pat, but what is the how

[44:36] long what's the expectation

[44:38] for the fencing, the dugouts?

[44:39] How long would those how long

[44:42] would those be considered

[44:45] usable?

[44:47] >> I do not know that

[44:49] off the top of my head.

[44:50] >> How often do we replace

[44:51] those in our district?

[44:52] >> They would certainly outlast

[44:53] the surface longer than 10

[44:54] years.

[44:55] >> So the investment that we're

[44:56] making would go to zero, but

[44:57] there would still be a valuable

[45:02] field there?

[45:04] >> Well, yeah, and part

[45:05] of the discussion

[45:07] with the village's attorney was

[45:08] Well, what does this provision

[45:09] look like when the agreements

[45:10] are amended or there's a new

[45:12] agreement for the remainder

[45:13] of the improvements,

[45:14] such as the rest of the

[45:16] buildings and infrastructure?

[45:19] And, you know,

[45:21] we didn't really get

[45:23] to anywhere concrete there,

[45:25] but, you know, they

[45:27] acknowledged that the schedule

[45:29] would likely be

[45:30] for a longer period

[45:31] to reflect the, you know,

[45:33] the longer period of useful

[45:34] life that those improvements

[45:35] would have.

[45:38] >> Okay.

[45:39] >> Right. But so maybe these

[45:40] were questions I should have

[45:41] asked you before.

[45:43] But so roughly half of the

[45:45] investment that we will be

[45:50] making to the project is the

[45:53] field and a little less than

[45:54] half is to the rest of the but

[45:58] I think the field is a little

[45:59] bit more than half,

[46:00] right? A little less than half.

[46:02] And so the other things that

[46:03] would still be That's a break

[46:04] down from

[46:05] >> And for the new star,

[46:06] they have the field estimated

[46:07] at about 1.6, and the overall

[46:08] project is about 4. So

[46:15] >> Yeah. So we would have half

[46:16] of the investment still quite

[46:18] usable, but the schedule goes

[46:19] 2 years early for the field.

[46:22] So that would mean that the

[46:25] whole thing was still right.

[46:32] >> Yeah, that was the extent

[46:33] of what the Village's attorney

[46:34] was willing to agree to

[46:35] during our conference. I mean,

[46:37] there is a provision in there

[46:38] saying that upon completion

[46:40] of the improvements,

[46:41] each side will adopt a, you

[46:42] know, final schedule based

[46:44] on the useful life expectancy.

[46:46] So, I mean,

[46:49] there could be some deviation

[46:51] at that point when the final

[46:52] schedule is adopted,

[46:54] but it does say 8 years is the

[46:55] contemplated period right now.

[46:58] >> And in the 5-0 agreement,

[47:00] what was

[47:01] >> I don't believe there was

[47:03] any sort of schedule

[47:05] in the version

[47:07] of the agreement approved

[47:09] by the village in January. I

[47:17] think it was just that There

[47:18] would be an appraisal possibly.

[47:19] I could pull it up if you give

[47:20] me a few minutes,

[47:21] but I can't remember

[47:22] off the top of my head.

[47:23] >> Maybe

[47:24] before the item comes up.

[47:25] Thanks.

[47:28] >> So the way it stands now,

[47:31] if we spent this $4 million

[47:37] in 8 years, We could be thrown

[47:38] out.

[47:40] >> Correct.

[47:42] >> Actually, we have no three

[47:45] years. Yeah, they when can they

[47:47] throw us out of there?

[47:48] >> Either party can terminate

[47:50] at any time upon three years'

[47:52] notice.

[47:55] >> Which means we have three

[47:59] years.

[48:01] >> Okay, so that so if they say

[48:04] they they want us out

[48:05] in one year, then three

[48:06] within three years we have

[48:07] to be out.

[48:08] >> Yeah, it's 3 years no matter

[48:09] what.

[48:10] >> So on day 2, they could tell

[48:12] us that they want

[48:13] to end the agreement and 3

[48:14] years

[48:15] >> Why do they stick to that?

[48:16] Why can't they come off

[48:17] of that? What and then the 8

[48:18] years, it's almost

[48:19] like automatic they're going

[48:20] to throw us out. And then what

[48:21] happens then is we're still

[48:22] in the same problem. We have

[48:24] to look for a place

[48:26] to do this,

[48:28] or are we being held hostage? I

[48:30] mean, we're spending money.

[48:31] This is I mean, it's taxpayers'

[48:32] money. I don't know why they

[48:34] keep why they have

[48:35] to have that. Just say,

[48:37] we're going to build a field,

[48:39] we'll do the best we can for

[48:41] it. I think we should do a

[48:43] first-class, you know,

[48:45] project there. But we have

[48:47] to have the ability

[48:51] to stay there. I mean,

[48:52] I can't see how do we tell, you

[48:53] know I don't know if somebody

[48:54] has an idea

[48:57] to do something else

[48:58] with that property. It just

[48:59] it's mind-boggling. I mean, I

[49:00] can't see if I asked the

[49:01] village of Islamorada

[49:02] to spend $5 million

[49:04] on some ways

[49:05] over here and say, look, you

[49:07] know, but we're going

[49:08] to throw you out in a couple

[49:10] of years, I don't think they'd

[49:11] spend the money here. Why

[49:12] should we spend the money

[49:13] there? I want

[49:14] to do this project. I want

[49:15] to see this happen. But I have

[49:16] to have a guarantee that we're

[49:18] there. I mean, it's

[49:21] >> And that we're not spending

[49:23] taxpayer money.

[49:24] >> And, you know,

[49:25] every time we try

[49:26] to change something, We send it

[49:27] back to Islamorada and then

[49:29] they come back

[49:30] to the original thing,

[49:31] whatever they said

[49:32] in the beginning. They never

[49:33] budged off of anything

[49:34] until a little bit this time.

[49:38] But, you know

[49:39] >> And to be clear, the village

[49:40] council has not seen or voted

[49:46] on this thing we're voting

[49:48] on today?

[49:49] >> Correct. I mean,

[49:50] I'm assuming it was shared

[49:51] with them, but, you know,

[49:53] I didn't share it

[49:54] with them.

[49:56] >> Yeah, I think we probably

[49:57] should be having this

[49:58] discussion at the item

[49:59] discussion item. I mean,

[50:00] we can add well,

[50:02] you guys will be around

[50:03] to have I mean, that's up

[50:04] to you, John, but I think that

[50:05] we probably need to

[50:07] >> And I figured, you know,

[50:09] I wasn't going

[50:10] to shut you up. I'd get

[50:12] into trouble. I'm always

[50:13] getting in trouble anyway.

[50:17] Okay, let's

[50:21] But let's make it short on the

[50:22] policies so we don't keep

[50:24] everybody waiting. All right?

[50:29] So, well, it's up

[50:30] to the superintendent

[50:31] to speak now.

[50:34] >> Thank you. I have a couple

[50:35] things and I'll be brief,

[50:36] but I'm going to start with 2

[50:37] introductions. The first is the

[50:39] Southern Group's Kate DeLoach

[50:40] is going to give us a

[50:41] legislative wrap-up.

[50:42] So, Ms. DeLoach.

[51:03] >> All right. Well, thank you,

[51:04] everyone.

[51:05] I can't tell you how

[51:06] grateful I am to be here

[51:07] in person and not on Zoom land,

[51:08] as we have been for many,

[51:09] many weeks. But I wanted to

[51:10] take this opportunity I know

[51:14] most of you probably I don't

[51:15] know if you have heard this

[51:16] news,

[51:17] but we do have an addition

[51:18] to the Florida Keys office

[51:20] at the Southern Group, which is

[51:21] really exciting for me. Erin

[51:23] and I are joining forces again,

[51:25] and so Aaron will be working

[51:26] with me on all of our Florida

[51:28] Keys clients. And I'm excited

[51:31] to say we have another Monroe

[51:32] County Schools graduate working

[51:35] on the Monroe County Schools

[51:36] team. So I dragged Aaron up

[51:37] here with me

[51:38] to give me a little bit of

[51:40] support this evening.

[51:41] >> I think we all know who

[51:42] Erin is, but do you want

[51:44] to give her whole name?

[51:46] >> Sure. Hi everyone,

[51:48] my name is Erin Muir. I am a

[51:49] lifetime Florida Keys resident

[51:51] here, proud product of the

[51:53] Monroe County School System. I

[51:55] joined the Southern Group

[51:57] at the start of the year

[51:58] after spending my career

[52:00] in government and nonprofits,

[52:01] so I'm very excited to be able

[52:03] to work with you all. And now,

[52:04] you know,

[52:05] my life is coming full circle

[52:06] with my own kids

[52:07] in the school system. My

[52:12] daughter has been at PKS and my

[52:14] son just completed kindergarten

[52:16] roundup and is headed to PKS

[52:18] in August too. So really

[52:21] excited to be working

[52:22] with you all. Thank you, Sue.

[52:25] And we won't take up too much

[52:27] of your time today. We just

[52:28] wanted to, one,

[52:29] thank you again

[52:32] for the opportunity

[52:34] to represent you in

[52:35] Tallahassee. It was an

[52:37] interesting session. It was an

[52:38] extended session. I think when

[52:39] we finally came home,

[52:41] we had been through Special

[52:42] Session F, which is always a

[52:44] little bit longer than we

[52:46] usually plan to spend in

[52:47] Tallahassee. But as of today,

[52:48] the budget has officially been

[52:50] sent to the governor,

[52:51] so we should be seeing movement

[52:52] on that. I would expect this

[52:53] week that we'll see some

[52:55] development on that. So we

[52:56] wanted to take this chance.

[52:57] I'll be sending you all the

[52:58] full education silo budget

[53:00] analysis. It's pretty hefty.

[53:01] This is obviously one

[53:02] of the biggest areas

[53:04] of the budget in the state. So

[53:05] if after you get that you have

[53:06] any questions,

[53:08] please don't hesitate

[53:09] to reach out. But just a few

[53:11] things that we wanted

[53:12] to highlight. One was there is

[53:14] $200 million that has been

[53:17] allocated within the teacher

[53:18] salary increases,

[53:19] and the proviso in the budget

[53:21] this year actually stipulates

[53:22] that that $200 is directed

[53:23] to teachers with 10 years

[53:24] of experience or more. So it's

[53:26] not the full pot, but that

[53:27] $200 million is actually for

[53:30] those 10-plus years teachers,

[53:31] which was an interesting little

[53:32] proviso language

[53:33] at the last minute. Another

[53:36] issue that we've talked about

[53:39] before was the scholarship

[53:41] accountability issue,

[53:42] which obviously was a big topic

[53:43] during session. A bill was

[53:44] filed by Senator Gates. It

[53:45] actually passed the Senate, I

[53:46] want to say unanimously,

[53:47] but it did not pass the

[53:48] House. They were able to sort

[53:50] of incorporate some portions

[53:51] of the funding concerns

[53:55] into the final budget. So there

[53:57] are a few things there,

[53:58] including a $79 million

[54:00] allocation for districts

[54:02] with declining enrollment and

[54:05] $47.5 million to create a new

[54:07] education enrollment

[54:09] stabilization program to assist

[54:11] impacted districts.

[54:15] moving forward.

[54:16] Additionally

[54:19] in the budget,

[54:20] a little bit closer to home,

[54:22] were our budget projects. We

[54:23] were successful in getting

[54:24] $1.75 million for our Bruce

[54:25] Hall project. The Trumbo

[54:37] project was also funded at $5

[54:38] million. And just a big

[54:39] shout-out to our delegation,

[54:40] to Rhett Mooney and Senator

[54:41] Rodriguez. This was a tough

[54:42] budget year,

[54:43] and the PECO list where Bruce

[54:44] Hall is is particularly tricky

[54:45] with the way that it's

[54:46] published, and they were both

[54:47] spectacular this year in making

[54:48] sure that even when it looked

[54:49] like something might fall out,

[54:50] they were always available 24

[54:51] hours a day to make sure our

[54:52] projects stayed in. So always

[54:53] feel like we need

[54:55] to give them a big shout

[54:59] out for,

[55:00] for what they do up there. And

[55:01] then the last 2 things I wanted

[55:03] to highlight were just 2 bills

[55:04] that we've talked

[55:05] about before, both

[55:06] of which have been signed. One

[55:08] was the requirements for a

[55:09] standard high school diploma.

[55:10] That's one we'll work on

[55:12] over the summer. with the

[55:13] competitive dance team

[55:14] component. And then the other

[55:17] was SP 538, the

[55:19] Extracurricular Activities

[55:22] Bill. That's the bill that

[55:24] revises rules on funding

[55:25] eligibility and admin

[55:26] responsibilities for

[55:27] interscholastic and

[55:29] extracurriculars. That bill was

[55:30] also signed and is actually

[55:32] slated to be discussed by the

[55:33] Revenue Estimating Conference

[55:34] tomorrow. So we'll send you

[55:35] guys any additional information

[55:37] if that comes out from

[55:38] Tallahassee. But with that,

[55:39] we're happy

[55:40] to answer any questions,

[55:42] and hopefully we'll be able to

[55:43] report some good budget news,

[55:44] some final budget news

[55:45] in a few days.

[55:54] >> Maybe I have a question

[55:56] for you, Mr. Tierney. What's

[55:57] the plan? What's your kind

[55:58] of ideas about what we want

[55:59] to do to move forward on a

[56:01] platform? I know last year we

[56:02] wanted to do We just thought we

[56:03] would do it sooner. But I don't

[56:04] know if this is a good time

[56:05] for Kate to talk

[56:06] about what that process looks

[56:07] like or when that timeframe

[56:08] might be.

[56:09] >> I'll address that. I think

[56:11] going forward it helps us

[56:12] to codify what we'd

[56:14] like our legislative priorities

[56:15] to be in Tallahassee. That way

[56:17] it doesn't matter who goes

[56:19] because we're all going

[56:21] to have the same message to

[56:22] include any appropriations we'd

[56:23] seek. So Ms. Loach was very

[56:24] helpful this time talking

[56:32] to everybody

[56:33] to get those together,

[56:34] synthesizing them. Well, we

[56:35] were a little rushed this year,

[56:36] so we'll probably have either a

[56:37] workshop or retreat ahead

[56:38] of time to talk through that,

[56:39] but we'll end up with a similar

[56:40] product every time that the

[56:42] legislature is going

[56:43] into session.

[56:46] >> All right, great,

[56:47] thanks.

[56:48] And from a timing

[56:49] perspective,

[56:50] we do have a little bit

[56:51] of time this year. It will be a

[56:52] later session. We'll also have

[56:53] all new leadership new

[56:55] leadership

[56:56] in the governor's office,

[56:57] new leadership in the House,

[56:58] and new leadership in the

[56:59] Senate. So I think the summer

[57:10] will be a really good time

[57:11] for us to have that kind

[57:12] of platform discussion.

[57:13] >> Thank you guys so much.

[57:14] Have a great day. Thank you.

[57:15] >> Moving forward,

[57:16] when we hire new principals

[57:17] in Monroe County and I'm

[57:18] defining new principals as

[57:19] never having served in the role

[57:20] or not being a principal in

[57:21] Monroe County I'm going

[57:22] to ask that person to come and

[57:23] briefly address the board. So

[57:24] PKS has benefited

[57:25] from great leadership

[57:26] in recent history,

[57:27] and it was important

[57:28] to that community,

[57:29] to this community,

[57:32] to continue that. And we found

[57:33] we believe we found the perfect

[57:34] person in Ms. Maida Cort. So

[57:35] welcome. Thank you

[57:37] for being here.

[57:43] >> Hi. I'm here tonight

[57:45] to introduce myself. For those

[57:46] of you who may not know me,

[57:48] my name is Maida Cort. I'm

[57:49] going to read because I'm a

[57:51] little nervous. I'm not

[57:52] normally nervous. but y'all are

[57:53] pretty intimidating.

[57:55] For the past 9 years,

[57:57] I've had the distinct honor of

[57:59] serving as the assistant

[58:00] principal of the Plantation

[58:02] Keys school community,

[58:03] and I'm also a very proud local

[58:05] resident,

[58:06] and I'm also the mother of 4

[58:08] Coral Shores graduates. And so

[58:12] all of that to say,

[58:16] my heart is completely invested

[58:18] in the Upper Keys. Today I

[58:19] stand before you

[58:20] with immense gratitude and

[58:21] honor to officially step

[58:23] into the role of the principal

[58:24] of Plantation Key School.

[58:26] First, I'd like

[58:28] to extend my deepest thanks

[58:29] to our retiring principal,

[58:30] Ms. Lisa Taylor.

[58:31] Along I have worked alongside

[58:33] Lisa for nearly a decade,

[58:34] and it has been a master class

[58:36] in leadership. She has left

[58:37] behind a profound legacy,

[58:38] and I'm incredibly grateful for

[58:39] her mentorship and her

[58:41] friendship. 9 years in the

[58:42] trenches will teach you

[58:45] everything you need to know

[58:46] about a school. I know our

[58:48] strengths because I have

[58:50] celebrated them in our

[58:51] classrooms. I know our

[58:52] challenges because I've worked

[58:54] alongside our dedicated

[58:55] teachers to solve them.

[58:56] But most importantly, I know

[58:57] our students. I know their

[58:59] names, I know their families,

[59:01] and I know their potential.

[59:02] And so this transition is not

[59:04] about starting over. Luckily,

[59:07] it's about leveling up. I can

[59:08] hit the ground running because

[59:10] I already know this building

[59:12] inside and out. Thank you for

[59:13] your trust and your

[59:14] partnership. Thank you

[59:20] for your shared commitment

[59:21] to our students' success,

[59:22] and I look forward to working

[59:23] with you closely as we lead

[59:24] Plantation Key School

[59:25] into its next great chapter.

[59:26] That's it.

[59:37] >> Thank you for coming. So

[59:39] there's 2 more things I have

[59:41] to cover. I'm gonna, I'm gonna

[59:42] cut my comments short because I

[59:43] know there's important business

[59:44] We have to get to,

[59:46] but there are 2 other things

[59:48] that I have to mention. The

[59:49] first is hard to believe,

[59:50] but my evaluation

[59:51] for the first year is due by

[59:52] August 1st, and that means

[59:54] by the 28th of July board

[59:56] meeting we have

[59:57] to have that done. So there's a

[59:58] meeting on the 21st and the

[1:00:00] 28th. I'm going to get the

[1:00:01] information that you need. I'm

[1:00:02] going to try to get it 2 weeks

[1:00:04] ahead, so to the 14th,

[1:00:05] so you have it for the 28th,

[1:00:06] so you have time

[1:00:07] to synthesize that.

[1:00:08] But I would just say it is time

[1:00:09] for you to start reflecting on

[1:00:10] that because as that will be

[1:00:12] here in no time. And the second

[1:00:14] is, a former superintendent

[1:00:16] of mine and mentor used to

[1:00:18] regularly say that public

[1:00:19] education is the genius of our

[1:00:20] democracy and graduation is its

[1:00:21] crown jewel. And he impressed

[1:00:23] that

[1:00:24] on high school principals, and

[1:00:25] I was a high school principal

[1:00:26] at the time, and his message

[1:00:28] was that it is incumbent on us

[1:00:29] to defend and protect the

[1:00:31] dignity and celebratory nature

[1:00:33] of that ceremony. And that

[1:00:35] remains with me. So I was so

[1:00:37] pleased and proud

[1:00:38] of the graduations that 3 high

[1:00:39] schools had in Monroe County.

[1:00:42] And I would like to thank

[1:00:43] the 3 high school principals

[1:00:44] for putting

[1:00:45] on such magnificent ceremonies.

[1:00:46] We did a video

[1:00:47] to commemorate that,

[1:00:48] and I'd also like to thank

[1:00:49] Mr. Damali Phipps

[1:00:50] for helping us with that,

[1:00:51] but I'm going

[1:00:52] to play that video

[1:00:53] to conclude my comments.

[1:00:56] >> [VIDEO PLAYING]

[1:02:58] >> Yeah, that concludes my

[1:02:59] comments.

[1:03:04] >> Very good. Board members,

[1:03:05] we'll start with you, Sue.

[1:03:06] You, you're talking a lot

[1:03:07] tonight.

[1:03:10] >> I loved the movie. Thank you

[1:03:11] for that. That's all my comment

[1:03:13] is.

[1:03:17] >> Anybody over here want

[1:03:18] to talk?

[1:03:19] >> Go ahead.

[1:03:21] >> I'm going

[1:03:22] to say what I have to say

[1:03:23] at the action item agenda.

[1:03:27] >> So it well, I got

[1:03:28] to say something. So anyway, I

[1:03:30] hope everybody celebrates the

[1:03:33] 4th of July with 250 years.

[1:03:37] And you know, summertime, 4th

[1:03:44] of July, America, it brings

[1:03:47] baseball, right? Not soccer.

[1:03:51] All these people

[1:03:52] with this soccer stuff.

[1:03:54] Baseball. Now I

[1:03:55] like wrestling too,

[1:03:56] but it wasn't in my, you know,

[1:03:58] but baseball was important.

[1:03:59] See, I, maybe around the 4th

[1:04:02] of July, well no,

[1:04:04] that would always be the

[1:04:05] All-Star Game, But sometime

[1:04:06] in July, back when I was a kid,

[1:04:08] I'd see the Dodgers play in

[1:04:10] Ebbets Field. Those were great

[1:04:11] days. Well, anyway, I hope

[1:04:13] everybody really celebrates and

[1:04:14] be very glad. See, I got my tie

[1:04:16] on for America and be very glad

[1:04:18] for being in the United States

[1:04:20] and being in Florida and being

[1:04:21] in Monroe County because this

[1:04:27] is a fantastic place. If we

[1:04:28] could only just get a damn

[1:04:30] baseball field done.

[1:04:36] All right.

[1:04:39] >> Anyway, Ed, can you just

[1:04:40] thank Damali for us,

[1:04:41] for the whole

[1:04:42] from the whole board to him,

[1:04:43] for agreeing?

[1:04:44] >> I certainly will.

[1:04:45] >> Thank you.

[1:04:47] >> No, that's fine. Yeah, okay.

[1:04:57] >> So, and open up for the,

[1:05:08] workshop no,

[1:05:09] it's the public hearing

[1:05:10] on the, what do we call those

[1:05:15] stamp things?

[1:05:16] >> Policies.

[1:05:17] >> The policies. Yeah, I don't

[1:05:21] remember the policies. So do we

[1:05:22] have anybody here to speak

[1:05:24] to the policies? Ed, do you

[1:05:25] want to speak

[1:05:27] to the policies? Okay, good.

[1:05:31] Well, I wasn't going

[1:05:33] to listen this time either.

[1:05:34] All right. And what

[1:05:36] about board members?

[1:05:41] On the policies relative

[1:05:42] to policy?

[1:05:44] >> It's human resource

[1:05:46] policies.

[1:05:55] >> Sometimes the more you say,

[1:05:56] the worse it is. Okay, there's

[1:05:57] nobody here to speak

[1:06:01] to any policies. Okay, does

[1:06:03] anybody on the board want

[1:06:04] to speak to them? Does anybody

[1:06:05] from the district want

[1:06:06] to present anything on any

[1:06:07] of them?

[1:06:10] >> These are working with

[1:06:11] Neola and to update policies

[1:06:12] that require updating.

[1:06:16] >> All right. So with that,

[1:06:19] I'm going to close the hearing

[1:06:20] on the policies and reconvene

[1:06:24] to the board meeting. And we

[1:06:26] have an action item number 1,

[1:06:29] approval of the revised license

[1:06:31] agreement.

[1:06:32] >> I recommend the board

[1:06:34] approve the revised license

[1:06:35] agreement with Islamorada,

[1:06:37] Village of Islands, Florida,

[1:06:38] for construction

[1:06:40] of a baseball field at

[1:06:42] Founders Park.

[1:06:43] >> So moved. Second.

[1:06:44] >> Discussion?

[1:06:45] >> Yes. So here's my problem.

[1:06:50] We keep getting documents

[1:06:52] from lawyers. Quite frankly,

[1:06:53] I'm not happy with any of the

[1:06:55] ones we've been receiving. I

[1:07:00] don't feel like any of the

[1:07:02] documents we've received are

[1:07:06] protect the students,

[1:07:08] the baseball team,

[1:07:15] and the school district. We

[1:07:16] keep arguing over money, but

[1:07:19] ultimately the money we are

[1:07:21] spending is not just village

[1:07:23] taxpayer money, but also

[1:07:29] Monroe County people money.

[1:07:31] And I can't

[1:07:33] In good conscience continue

[1:07:37] to put money in a project where

[1:07:39] I feel the village doesn't want

[1:07:41] to give us the guarantees that

[1:07:43] we need to spend that kind

[1:07:45] of money. I love the project.

[1:07:48] If it were up to me, we'd do

[1:07:49] the whole project. I've said

[1:07:51] this before, I wouldn't want

[1:07:53] to limit it to just the

[1:07:54] baseball field. I understand,

[1:07:56] because we want to get this

[1:07:58] done sooner rather than later.

[1:08:00] That people are willing

[1:08:01] to pare down the project,

[1:08:03] and I'm fine with that.

[1:08:05] But just because we're spending

[1:08:08] $4 million instead of $6

[1:08:11] million doesn't mean that we

[1:08:12] can't be guaranteed that we'll

[1:08:13] keep the field,

[1:08:15] that we'll hold on to it,

[1:08:16] that it'll be kept

[1:08:18] in good repair when it's not

[1:08:19] within school district time

[1:08:21] of use. So for instance, the

[1:08:24] village maintains ownership

[1:08:26] when it's not baseball season.

[1:08:29] There's no provision in there

[1:08:30] for Island Morada as a village

[1:08:33] to take care of the field. And

[1:08:36] there's no provision in there

[1:08:40] for any kind of inspection to

[1:08:42] make sure that we're not

[1:08:43] getting the field for our kids

[1:08:45] in bad repair and then being

[1:08:46] asked

[1:08:47] to fix it because now it's our

[1:08:48] 6 months. There's a long list,

[1:08:50] honestly,

[1:08:55] of issues I have even

[1:08:57] with the pared-down version

[1:08:58] of the license agreement.

[1:09:00] There's nothing I want more

[1:09:02] than to give baseball exactly

[1:09:03] what it needs. I'd give them

[1:09:04] more if that were easy to do,

[1:09:07] but I just can't. I can't agree

[1:09:08] to this. What I would agree to

[1:09:10] is having the village and the

[1:09:11] school district sit down

[1:09:13] in a meeting

[1:09:16] in the sunshine so that.

[1:09:19] Everybody's talking

[1:09:23] to one another, and it's not

[1:09:26] lawyers throwing agreements

[1:09:28] at each other, because that's

[1:09:32] the way I feel it is right now.

[1:09:34] I know our lawyer takes a lot

[1:09:36] of input from all of us, but he

[1:09:37] can't put everybody's input

[1:09:38] in the agreement,

[1:09:41] and I'm sure it's the same

[1:09:43] thing for the village lawyer.

[1:09:46] So my preference is there would

[1:09:48] be a joint meeting. We could

[1:09:49] come

[1:09:50] to some agreement. I will say,

[1:09:52] as far as Baseball is

[1:09:54] concerned. I went

[1:09:56] to the construction meeting

[1:09:57] on Monday, and it shouldn't

[1:09:58] take less than three

[1:10:04] months

[1:10:06] to get the turf field in. So

[1:10:07] there's no reason why, even if

[1:10:09] the fencing wasn't done and the

[1:10:10] dugouts weren't finished,

[1:10:11] they couldn't have a great

[1:10:17] field to play on

[1:10:18] for this upcoming season.

[1:10:20] But I can't throw money

[1:10:21] at a project. without having a

[1:10:23] license agreement that I'm

[1:10:26] comfortable with. And so

[1:10:30] for me, I'd love to amend the

[1:10:32] action item agenda,

[1:10:33] and I'm not sure how we would

[1:10:35] do that, but I'd like it

[1:10:39] to be us agreeing to meet

[1:10:41] with the village, and then the

[1:10:42] village can hopefully have

[1:10:44] something

[1:10:45] on their next agenda, and we

[1:10:47] can do something as quickly

[1:10:48] afterwards as possible. So I am

[1:10:50] not going to, vote for this

[1:10:56] license agreement as it

[1:10:57] currently stands,

[1:10:59] and I'm not going to change

[1:11:02] what I believe again just to

[1:11:03] give the village something else

[1:11:05] to change. So I'm going

[1:11:08] to be a no vote.

[1:11:10] >> Board Member Conn, if you

[1:11:13] want

[1:11:14] to offer a friendly amendment

[1:11:15] after everyone has a chance

[1:11:16] to talk. That's the time

[1:11:17] to do it.

[1:11:18] >> Thank you.

[1:11:23] >> Then I'm done.

[1:11:24] >> I would

[1:11:25] like nothing more than

[1:11:26] to pass this today, but

[1:11:27] for me, there's, you know, as

[1:11:28] Mrs. Conn mentioned,

[1:11:31] we are responsible

[1:11:32] for taxpayer dollars,

[1:11:33] and they're all of Monroe

[1:11:34] County's taxpayer dollars. It

[1:11:35] isn't just, you know, limited

[1:11:36] residents whose money we're

[1:11:37] spending. So for me, I would

[1:11:39] like to see one that agreement

[1:11:40] changed to at least five years

[1:11:41] because it's hard

[1:11:44] to invest four million dollars

[1:11:46] with the possibility that we're

[1:11:47] gone in three. And secondly,

[1:11:49] I'd like to see the

[1:11:52] amortization schedule equal

[1:11:53] with the the lifetime

[1:11:57] of the turf. I mean,

[1:11:59] if we're still left

[1:12:00] with you know valuable time,

[1:12:02] then that has value. So

[1:12:04] to me,

[1:12:06] we're still leaving money

[1:12:07] on the table at the end

[1:12:09] of eight years. And we're asked

[1:12:11] to leave, we're still putting

[1:12:13] taxpayer dollars out without

[1:12:14] any guarantee that our kids can

[1:12:15] still use it. So if, you know,

[1:12:18] the board is willing

[1:12:20] to amend that item

[1:12:22] with those provisions for me,

[1:12:24] that seems to work. My last

[1:12:25] concern I did find, which was

[1:12:26] at the end of the lifespan

[1:12:27] of the turf,

[1:12:28] the maintenance part of it,

[1:12:30] I just want

[1:12:31] to make sure that we're going

[1:12:32] to have to come back

[1:12:33] in and redo the turf and The

[1:12:34] whatever repairs Doug I may

[1:12:36] need, which could be

[1:12:37] in the millions again

[1:12:38] since we're spending four

[1:12:39] in you know 2026. Lord knows

[1:12:40] where it'll be in ten or

[1:12:42] fifteen more years. I just want

[1:12:43] to make sure that there's a

[1:12:44] provision in there that we will

[1:12:46] revisit the negotiation

[1:12:47] for an amortization schedule

[1:12:48] for the money we invest. You

[1:12:49] know, ten, fifteen years

[1:12:53] from now when it's time to do

[1:12:54] those improvements. I just want

[1:12:55] to make sure that we are good

[1:12:57] shepherds

[1:12:58] of taxpayer dollars. That's

[1:12:59] all. And believe me, more than

[1:13:01] anything, all I would like

[1:13:04] to do is to give those kids.

[1:13:05] Exactly what they deserve, and

[1:13:06] for me, there's no kid.

[1:13:07] Doesn't matter where the child

[1:13:08] is, which school they attend. I

[1:13:09] want every kid to have the best

[1:13:11] that we can possibly provide

[1:13:13] for them, and I think we all

[1:13:14] want the same thing. So let's

[1:13:15] just find a way

[1:13:17] to make it happen.

[1:13:19] >> So you know we keep we we

[1:13:21] were told today that the

[1:13:22] easiest thing is for us

[1:13:26] to just. Agree

[1:13:30] to the 5-0 license agreement

[1:13:35] from the village,

[1:13:36] and that agreement was written

[1:13:39] without any input

[1:13:42] from the school district. So

[1:13:44] when that was approved in

[1:13:45] January, I believe, I felt that

[1:13:47] that was the opening salvo for.

[1:13:53] Negotiating. Since that time,

[1:13:55] the relationship

[1:14:01] from what I've seen,

[1:14:04] the perceived relationship

[1:14:10] of the school board and the

[1:14:11] Village of Islamorada has gone

[1:14:13] from being co-partners, 2

[1:14:15] government agencies working

[1:14:16] together through an ILA

[1:14:18] for a responsible use

[1:14:19] of tax dollars to the good

[1:14:20] of everyone in the community to

[1:14:22] we're the renters and they're

[1:14:24] the landlords and we should

[1:14:26] just agree to the 5-0 vote

[1:14:30] because we're renters. We're

[1:14:32] not renters. We are 2

[1:14:33] government agencies. So some of

[1:14:47] the confusion when we had our

[1:14:48] retreat when was that,

[1:14:51] February? and we went line

[1:14:55] by line

[1:14:56] through the document and came

[1:14:57] up with what would be our

[1:14:58] return salvo

[1:15:02] on the negotiation, you know,

[1:15:07] it was like, we're not going

[1:15:09] to listen to any

[1:15:10] of those things. We're going

[1:15:12] to go back to the 5.0. And even

[1:15:13] today Right. You know,

[1:15:14] we're being told that they want

[1:15:16] to go back

[1:15:17] to the 5-0. I mean, this is

[1:15:19] for ultimately maybe $8 million

[1:15:20] that the school district is

[1:15:22] going to invest on a piece

[1:15:23] of property that, you know,

[1:15:25] we have an ILA that just from a

[1:15:29] year or so ago saying that as

[1:15:33] long as we all cooperate,

[1:15:34] we can use it for 40 years.

[1:15:36] But now we're being told that,

[1:15:38] you know,

[1:15:49] it's their way or the highway,

[1:15:50] that we can get kicked out

[1:15:51] at different times, that

[1:15:52] there's an amortization that

[1:15:54] goes to zero when there is

[1:15:56] still tremendous value

[1:15:58] in the field. And, you know,

[1:15:59] I'd like

[1:16:00] to just sit here and talk

[1:16:04] about the kids. I would like

[1:16:06] to just Do the field. I would

[1:16:08] like to move forward

[1:16:09] with that,

[1:16:10] and I would be willing

[1:16:12] to follow, Ms. Talbott's

[1:16:13] amendments

[1:16:15] to bringing a return salvo

[1:16:17] to the Village Council

[1:16:19] for real consideration. And we

[1:16:21] have not yet heard what the

[1:16:24] disagreements from the

[1:16:26] Village Council are

[1:16:28] with our terms. We've only

[1:16:30] heard that they don't want them

[1:16:33] at all. And so I would

[1:16:34] like I would like

[1:16:36] to I would be willing to vote

[1:16:37] for those amendments

[1:16:42] to this licensing agreement

[1:16:45] with the understanding then

[1:16:47] that if there was not an

[1:16:49] agreement to That document that

[1:16:51] we could have, as Ms. Conn

[1:16:55] said,

[1:16:59] a very structured meeting

[1:17:02] to vote on the areas where

[1:17:03] there's differences.

[1:17:18] But I don't want to come back

[1:17:19] for a meeting

[1:17:20] after we've said what we want

[1:17:21] with an idea of we just want

[1:17:22] the 5-0 because there's no

[1:17:23] reason for us to go

[1:17:24] to that meeting.

[1:17:28] We need

[1:17:29] to know that there's going

[1:17:30] to be negotiation between 2

[1:17:32] governing bodies. I mean,

[1:17:33] we're I love Founders Park and

[1:17:34] I and that baseball field is a

[1:17:38] bit

[1:17:41] of an embarrassment right now.

[1:17:43] And we're willing

[1:17:44] to make it fantastic.

[1:17:45] But it has

[1:17:46] to be a joint effort. It has

[1:17:48] to be in the spirit

[1:17:52] of the ILA, which is that we

[1:17:55] are equal bodies working

[1:17:57] together. You have the land; we

[1:17:58] have the money. We're going

[1:18:00] to do something really great

[1:18:01] for the community. That's what

[1:18:02] it's been

[1:18:03] from the very beginning, and I

[1:18:04] don't know where the hookups

[1:18:06] have all gotten. And if, and

[1:18:08] honestly, I I really wish we

[1:18:09] could just get it negotiated

[1:18:13] the way the ILA lays it out.

[1:18:14] That it is. supposed to be

[1:18:16] between the superintendent and

[1:18:18] the village manager, but it

[1:18:20] appears that we get no

[1:18:21] feedback. We put out our salvo

[1:18:22] and then we just hear, no,

[1:18:24] we don't want that. We don't

[1:18:25] hear why we don't why these

[1:18:26] things are not good,

[1:18:28] which things you might be able

[1:18:30] to work on, which are not. So

[1:18:31] anyway, that's where I am.

[1:18:40] >> Well, originally we as The

[1:18:42] plans were we were going to

[1:18:43] build the whole stadium and

[1:18:44] press box, and because of the

[1:18:45] bickering back and forth and

[1:18:47] the time schedule

[1:18:49] to get it done in time

[1:18:50] for baseball season,

[1:18:52] it's now pared down. And if we

[1:18:54] stall it even further,

[1:18:55] we're going

[1:18:56] to miss that opportunity. And I

[1:19:00] personally am willing

[1:19:05] to go forward

[1:19:08] on this tonight. And approve it

[1:19:10] with their changes. Again, I

[1:19:13] think people can't understand

[1:19:14] why anybody would think we

[1:19:15] would spend money and not have

[1:19:16] some guarantee that we'd be

[1:19:18] there. I mean,

[1:19:20] it just how could I do it? I

[1:19:21] mean, it's just crazy. So

[1:19:24] that's our problem has been

[1:19:26] that all along. And I think if

[1:19:29] we Dirk give us the right

[1:19:31] language on that. What we want

[1:19:34] is I mean, I want more than 8

[1:19:36] years. I gotta tell you,

[1:19:37] I'm looking for 15 or 20. You

[1:19:38] know, I mean, we're gonna

[1:19:40] baseball's gonna be around.

[1:19:42] It's gonna be around. You're

[1:19:43] gonna have a team, and that's

[1:19:45] where they're gonna play.

[1:19:46] Again, we've been looking, you

[1:19:47] know, as this thing became more

[1:19:52] and more of a problem,

[1:19:53] we've been looking

[1:19:54] for alternative places

[1:19:55] to do it. There's really not a

[1:19:56] lot of choices around here.

[1:19:57] What about the Mets? So, you

[1:19:59] know, you're going

[1:20:01] to put them really into a big

[1:20:04] bind or we'd wind up doing

[1:20:05] something

[1:20:06] in the back and it's not going

[1:20:08] to be as good as somebody's

[1:20:09] going to get hurt in it,

[1:20:10] meaning the track will lose

[1:20:11] something or somebody's going

[1:20:12] to lose some or everybody's

[1:20:13] going to lose a little bit to

[1:20:14] the different sports we put

[1:20:16] back there. So really we need

[1:20:17] to get this in Founders Park

[1:20:19] and we need to, you know,

[1:20:21] scheduling a joint meeting,

[1:20:23] you know, could be a problem,

[1:20:25] could take time,

[1:20:27] people are away. If we could

[1:20:29] get them to approve that they

[1:20:31] don't throw us out

[1:20:34] of that place,

[1:20:35] we'll spend the money. We'll

[1:20:39] spend the money as soon as

[1:20:41] possible and get this thing

[1:20:43] done. But, you know,

[1:20:45] realistically, I cannot approve

[1:20:48] that we will spend that money

[1:20:50] with the possibility that we'd

[1:20:52] be thrown out. Now, you know,

[1:20:54] and even the council members

[1:20:56] and the board members. First

[1:20:58] of all, I'm going

[1:21:00] to be unemployed in a couple

[1:21:02] of months, so I'm going

[1:21:03] to join these 2 characters.

[1:21:05] So, you know, but anyway,

[1:21:08] but and the Isla Morada board

[1:21:11] is going to be different. This

[1:21:13] board is going

[1:21:15] to be different. So we really

[1:21:17] need to protect the school

[1:21:18] district and the taxpayers'

[1:21:19] money. Mr. Mayor, Because it's

[1:21:24] money. Yes, some

[1:21:26] of it's coming out of Isle of

[1:21:27] Marada taxpayers. A lot more is

[1:21:29] coming out of other areas. So

[1:21:30] but that's the way it is. We

[1:21:31] want to get this thing done.

[1:21:32] And so I would like if Dirk you

[1:21:35] could give something that would

[1:21:37] satisfy Miss Talbott and Miss

[1:21:38] Conn as best we can and Miss

[1:21:41] Dr. I would send that

[1:21:44] to them. Let everybody know. I

[1:21:46] don't know what they're saying,

[1:21:51] why we're what we're doing

[1:21:52] that's holding it up. Let's let

[1:21:53] everybody know it's because we

[1:21:54] want proof that we'll stay

[1:21:55] there. That's it. That's all it

[1:21:57] is to me.

[1:22:04] >> I have a list that's a bit

[1:22:06] longer than Mrs. Talbott's, and

[1:22:09] my issues are with I'm okay

[1:22:13] with the 10 years and the

[1:22:15] decline. My issue is with the

[1:22:17] material breach because that

[1:22:19] breach only applies to us. It

[1:22:21] doesn't apply to the village.

[1:22:22] They want final input

[1:22:24] pre-design,

[1:22:27] which I'm totally happy

[1:22:29] to do, but once we have a final

[1:22:32] design, I'm not willing

[1:22:34] to change it. The 2 the 3-year

[1:22:36] termination notice, even if 5

[1:22:38] years doesn't satisfy me.

[1:22:39] Because we're looking at 10

[1:22:44] years for a turf field and more

[1:22:45] than that

[1:22:46] for the other things. They want

[1:22:48] the right to approve the

[1:22:51] contractor even though the

[1:22:53] contractor is insured,

[1:22:57] is allowed under school

[1:22:58] district and government

[1:22:59] requirements, and then only if

[1:23:02] their withdrawal is

[1:23:05] unreasonable but it doesn't say

[1:23:06] what unreasonable is. So is

[1:23:10] unreasonable we shouldn't have

[1:23:12] a Key West company building

[1:23:13] something in the Upper Keys?

[1:23:15] That could be unreasonable.

[1:23:18] That's language that's

[1:23:19] in this license agreement.

[1:23:21] There's no provision

[1:23:23] for inspection at all

[1:23:24] at the end of the village use

[1:23:26] before We take it

[1:23:31] on as a baseball field,

[1:23:32] and I'd be happy

[1:23:34] to have that provision apply

[1:23:35] to us as well,

[1:23:36] but there's nothing in there

[1:23:38] about that either. And I'm

[1:23:40] super nervous about

[1:23:43] on the fly here today coming up

[1:23:46] with a new agreement that we

[1:23:47] all agree on and sending it

[1:23:50] to the village again

[1:23:51] to either agree or disagree.

[1:23:53] And if we don't propose right

[1:23:54] now and make an agreement as a

[1:23:55] board here today saying

[1:23:56] to them that we are willing

[1:23:58] to meet, then they don't have

[1:23:59] to make that decision

[1:24:02] at their next meeting. And

[1:24:03] that's what's going

[1:24:04] to postpone. Because if

[1:24:06] at their next meeting they look

[1:24:08] at the changes we want

[1:24:09] to make and say, I

[1:24:10] like this one, I don't

[1:24:12] like that one, I'm not willing

[1:24:14] to change anything,

[1:24:19] we are back at square one. And

[1:24:21] that has been my issue all

[1:24:22] along.

[1:24:26] What's been happening is

[1:24:27] that we keep giving them

[1:24:28] things. We're like,

[1:24:30] this is our final best,

[1:24:31] and they keep saying no, and

[1:24:32] then we come back and rewrite

[1:24:34] everything. I'm not doing that

[1:24:36] anymore. I'm not going

[1:24:37] to change the agreement

[1:24:38] on the fly,

[1:24:40] and the only way I'm going to

[1:24:42] pass something is if we are

[1:24:44] going to agree to meet

[1:24:45] with them because it needs

[1:24:47] to be in the sunshine. The

[1:24:49] discussion between the board

[1:24:52] and the village needs to happen

[1:24:54] so everybody can hear what

[1:24:56] everybody's saying. And even if

[1:24:57] I 100% had the belief that

[1:24:58] everybody on this current board

[1:25:01] was never going to do any

[1:25:04] of these things to us,

[1:25:06] the board changes every 2

[1:25:07] years.

[1:25:08] >> Doesn't matter.

[1:25:10] >> And 2 years is not enough

[1:25:12] of a guarantee for me to put

[1:25:14] $4 million taxpayer money

[1:25:15] in a project. And I also don't

[1:25:16] think we should pass a GMP

[1:25:19] without a license agreement.

[1:25:22] So I'm going to be the very, I

[1:25:24] guess, hated one tonight,

[1:25:27] but I'm no

[1:25:29] on everything unless it's to

[1:25:30] have a meeting where we have a

[1:25:32] very specific agenda

[1:25:33] on a very specific project.

[1:25:35] That's certainly something we

[1:25:36] should be able to agree upon

[1:25:37] at the very least.

[1:25:40] before a joint meeting, but

[1:25:41] that's where my votes are

[1:25:42] going.

[1:25:52] >> Is it possible to wait,

[1:25:53] I'm sorry. Is it possible if

[1:25:55] you were talking about going

[1:25:56] to 5 years, but to go to 10

[1:25:59] years if we make amendments

[1:26:00] here? Yvette, would you if

[1:26:03] we're making a Sending

[1:26:07] something over that could

[1:26:09] potentially be approved. I

[1:26:10] think hearing John, 10 years

[1:26:13] would be what he would want.

[1:26:15] We believe that the field is

[1:26:16] going to be still valuable at

[1:26:18] 10 years. So

[1:26:20] without a major breach

[1:26:22] of some kind,

[1:26:24] that we would be able to stay

[1:26:26] in the, you know, guaranteed

[1:26:27] to staying in the field and

[1:26:29] for 10 years and then a you

[1:26:30] know, as I don't even know how

[1:26:32] to say that,

[1:26:34] but that's what

[1:26:41] >> Yeah, that is proposed by

[1:26:44] Mrs. Talbott, or simple enough

[1:26:46] to make

[1:26:47] for the notice provision. It's

[1:26:49] 2 provisions, so that could be

[1:26:50] changed. I can do it

[1:26:51] on the screen for everyone

[1:26:54] to see if you guys would bear

[1:26:55] with me. Same thing with the

[1:26:57] early termination provision

[1:26:59] from 8 to 10 years,

[1:27:01] that's simple enough as well,

[1:27:02] and I can do it up there. I

[1:27:04] think probably the best way

[1:27:06] to go is that if there is going

[1:27:07] to be any recommended changes

[1:27:11] to the license agreement,

[1:27:14] that each change just be

[1:27:15] by individual motion. So

[1:27:17] >> Why would we have a 10-year

[1:27:18] agreement

[1:27:20] for a 40-year ILA?

[1:27:24] >> Why would we have what?

[1:27:27] >> A 10-year agreement when the

[1:27:28] ILA says 40 years.

[1:27:30] >> It's all right.

[1:27:32] >> And that 10 years is only

[1:27:34] the life of the turf. The life

[1:27:35] of all the fencing and the

[1:27:36] buildings and the other things

[1:27:37] that we're doing in order to

[1:27:38] make the field great has a

[1:27:39] longer shelf life than 10

[1:27:41] years. And that's only one of

[1:27:42] the many provisions that I find

[1:27:43] concerning as an attorney. And

[1:27:45] it's unfortunate that Darren

[1:27:47] had his financial his family

[1:27:55] emergency, because as a fellow

[1:27:58] attorney, I would hope that he

[1:28:00] would see some

[1:28:01] of the same problems that I do.

[1:28:04] And I kind of feel

[1:28:06] like I'm left swinging here

[1:28:08] on my own,

[1:28:09] and there's just no chance

[1:28:10] without us as a district being

[1:28:12] protected that I want

[1:28:13] to postpone again in the hopes

[1:28:15] that the village will give us

[1:28:17] something.

[1:28:24] thing, finishing our

[1:28:26] founders' project.

[1:28:27] >> If the village turned down

[1:28:29] what we're proposing here

[1:28:30] tonight,

[1:28:31] there would be no sense

[1:28:32] in ever meeting with them 5

[1:28:33] on 5, because there's no way I

[1:28:34] would back off

[1:28:36] of the not having the security

[1:28:37] of being in that park. So I

[1:28:40] think she's sending it

[1:28:42] to them, and if If they turn it

[1:28:44] down, then it's over,

[1:28:45] and then we have to build it in

[1:28:46] the back. I would say let's do

[1:28:48] that.

[1:28:50] >> I think if we had there

[1:28:54] would be no reason to have a

[1:28:56] 5-on-5 meeting if we all agree.

[1:28:58] But if it turns out that there

[1:29:01] are specific parts of the

[1:29:03] agreement where we don't get

[1:29:07] agreement on,

[1:29:09] that would be the reason. And

[1:29:10] we would need

[1:29:12] to know what those were

[1:29:16] before we held a meeting,

[1:29:17] and we would need to meet

[1:29:19] on those things, not move the

[1:29:21] bar, change the thing,

[1:29:23] just vote

[1:29:25] on the things that still need

[1:29:26] to be discussed.

[1:29:30] >> We're now going to sit here

[1:29:31] for the 3rd time to come up

[1:29:33] with an agreement that we're

[1:29:35] giving the village in the hopes

[1:29:37] that maybe they'll agree, when

[1:29:39] in fact what they gave us is

[1:29:40] less than what we asked for.

[1:29:42] And I'm tired

[1:29:44] of doing it.

[1:29:47] >> Well, if they do it again,

[1:29:48] it's over. Go ahead. Okay, so

[1:29:52] there was no motion? We have a

[1:29:55] motion and a second, and we

[1:29:56] have

[1:29:57] >> who moved and who seconded?

[1:29:59] >> The item is on the floor,

[1:30:01] but no motion

[1:30:02] for an amendment. Right.

[1:30:08] >> Right. So Sue, you were the

[1:30:10] movant?

[1:30:12] >> What?

[1:30:13] >> You were the movant?

[1:30:14] >> I made the motion,

[1:30:15] yeah.

[1:30:16] >> Okay, you can amend your

[1:30:18] motion if you wish.

[1:30:19] >> I'm the only one who can

[1:30:20] amend it?

[1:30:21] >> We need a motion to amend

[1:30:22] that will be voted on.

[1:30:23] >> Okay, I want a motion

[1:30:25] to amend to Increase the

[1:30:31] guaranteed time on the field

[1:30:33] to 10 years or whatever the

[1:30:34] kick-out date. And

[1:30:40] to what else do I want,

[1:30:41] Yvette?

[1:30:43] >> What's part 2?

[1:30:44] >> The amortization schedule.

[1:30:45] So these go the length

[1:30:47] of the useful life

[1:30:48] of the turf.

[1:30:49] >> Yeah, but in this case,

[1:30:50] if we have a 10-year thing,

[1:30:51] then You can show it up there.

[1:30:55] >> Yeah, put it up there.

[1:30:57] >> Do it up there. This way

[1:30:58] she'll say, we'll go with that.

[1:31:02] >> I've got it up there.

[1:31:04] >> It's up there.

[1:31:05] >> It's up there.

[1:31:07] >> In the folder?

[1:31:09] >> No, it's displayed. It's

[1:31:10] ready to go. Just hit that

[1:31:11] Word icon at the bottom.

[1:31:28] >> This is going

[1:31:29] to be slow because I'm going

[1:31:30] to read everything paragraph

[1:31:31] by paragraph again

[1:31:33] for the 4th time.

[1:31:38] >> Okay, so at this point,

[1:31:41] don't any of the motions to

[1:31:44] Yeah, but he's going to make it

[1:31:47] official what they so he needs

[1:31:49] to second the amended motion.

[1:31:51] >> You want

[1:31:52] to only change those 2 things

[1:31:54] in the license agreement?

[1:31:56] >> I said

[1:31:58] at this time the motion is

[1:31:59] to change those 2 things. It

[1:32:01] won't be if you would like

[1:32:03] to amend it

[1:32:05] in a separate motion,

[1:32:06] we can do that for you.

[1:32:10] >> So again, I think it would

[1:32:12] probably be cleaner

[1:32:14] to do it one section

[1:32:15] at a time. So the first one,

[1:32:17] if I'm hearing everybody right,

[1:32:19] would be motion to amend

[1:32:20] Section 3B,

[1:32:22] changing the non-renewal period

[1:32:26] from 36 months to 5 years.

[1:32:29] >> We have a 40-year ILA. Why

[1:32:32] would we do anything less than

[1:32:33] 40

[1:32:43] But there is a separate help.

[1:32:44] That's the problem. There are

[1:32:47] so many paragraphs in here that

[1:32:48] address more than one thing

[1:32:49] at a time.

[1:32:50] >> We want that for 10, not

[1:32:51] for 5. I thought she said 10. I

[1:32:53] said 10. We want that for 10

[1:32:54] years, not 5.

[1:32:55] >> I don't think it should be

[1:32:57] 10 years. I think it should be

[1:33:06] longer.

[1:33:07] >> So this is just providing

[1:33:09] the notice of non-renewal. So

[1:33:10] this is saying that when the

[1:33:11] optional renewal periods come

[1:33:13] up, they have the ability

[1:33:15] to give 3 years advance notice

[1:33:16] saying we're not invoking the

[1:33:17] renewal option. So I heard that

[1:33:18] being as 5 years.

[1:33:20] >> Okay, that's so at 5 years

[1:33:21] they could say, at 10 years So

[1:33:23] it

[1:33:32] >> correct, correct. They'd

[1:33:33] have to give you a 5-year

[1:33:34] >> 5 years you have

[1:33:36] to be out.

[1:33:37] >> They'd have to give you a

[1:33:38] 5-year heads-up

[1:33:39] to terminate the agreement.

[1:33:40] >> 5 years from date 2

[1:33:42] of the life

[1:33:43] of the agreement.

[1:33:44] >> So if they say they want us

[1:33:46] out, then you're talking 5

[1:33:47] years, not so I want to see 10

[1:33:49] years. I wanted to see that no

[1:33:54] matter what happens,

[1:33:55] we're there for 10 years.

[1:33:56] >> Except by mutual agreement.

[1:33:57] >> I mean, if we want

[1:33:58] out and they want out, that's,

[1:33:59] that's a different story. I

[1:34:00] agree with that. But as long as

[1:34:02] we can't be thrown out in 10

[1:34:05] years

[1:34:06] from the day we start working

[1:34:08] on it, that's all I want.

[1:34:14] Whether how if they wanted

[1:34:17] >> This actually

[1:34:19] >> Whatever they tell us that

[1:34:20] they want us out, you know, so

[1:34:22] I would hope I hope they give

[1:34:25] us some sort of a warning in

[1:34:26] 10 years. They say yeah, I

[1:34:27] don't care if they give us a

[1:34:28] 3-year warning on it.

[1:34:30] >> If I could show you a little

[1:34:31] bit just to maybe clarify. So

[1:34:32] it's set up as a 20-year

[1:34:33] initial period with 2 10-year

[1:34:35] renewals that are automatic

[1:34:36] unless they give the 3-year

[1:34:38] heads up. And that kind

[1:34:39] of just ties

[1:34:41] into the termination provision

[1:34:43] at the end, which, you know,

[1:34:45] basically says that either

[1:34:46] party may terminate

[1:34:48] at any time. upon 3 years

[1:34:50] advance notice.

[1:34:52] >> It's not as simple as

[1:34:53] looking

[1:34:54] at just one paragraph. That's

[1:34:56] not how the license agreement

[1:34:57] works.

[1:35:01] >> Well, right here.

[1:35:05] >> We'd have to go paragraph

[1:35:07] by paragraph like we did at the

[1:35:09] first retreat that we sent the

[1:35:10] village

[1:35:11] on this and make sure that

[1:35:13] It's all stated the way that we

[1:35:15] feel is safe. And if you guys

[1:35:17] want to do it now, it's , I

[1:35:19] have no problem. I'll stay here

[1:35:21] until if that's what it takes.

[1:35:23] But I am not going to on the

[1:35:24] fly do a paragraph here and a

[1:35:25] word there, and I can't even

[1:35:26] imagine our lawyers would let

[1:35:37] us do that.

[1:35:39] >> Yeah.

[1:35:42] >> Just as I understood Ms.

[1:35:43] Talbott's comment,

[1:35:44] it would be changing this to 5

[1:35:46] years, so they have

[1:35:47] to give a 5-year heads up

[1:35:50] to terminate the agreement

[1:35:52] at any time. It would be the

[1:35:55] same as the previous provision

[1:35:59] I was just at, which would be

[1:36:09] 5 years

[1:36:10] before really doesn't matter,

[1:36:11] it's the same because it's 5

[1:36:12] years either way. And then as

[1:36:13] far as the termination,

[1:36:14] that would go from So 8 to 10

[1:36:15] years, right? That's, that's

[1:36:16] what I understood Mrs.

[1:36:17] Talbott's comment to be.

[1:36:18] >> Okay, that's fine.

[1:36:20] >> But Hunter, that means that

[1:36:21] we move in and day 2 they tell

[1:36:23] us they're giving us notice,

[1:36:24] we only have 5 years. What

[1:36:25] we're looking for is

[1:36:26] to stay a minimum of 10 to

[1:36:27] through the and I don't know

[1:36:29] why anyone would disagree

[1:36:31] with that.

[1:36:32] >> So in that instance If they,

[1:36:33] you know, if you approved it

[1:36:35] today, they terminated

[1:36:36] tomorrow, then the early

[1:36:38] termination schedule would be

[1:36:40] about at about 50%. So they'd

[1:36:42] have to make a payment of

[1:36:43] about $2 million, give or take,

[1:36:46] if they were to do that.

[1:36:49] >> I think what we are

[1:36:50] discussing is having the

[1:36:52] security

[1:36:53] of knowing we're there

[1:36:54] for a minimum of 10 years,

[1:36:55] right,

[1:36:57] before we can be removed.

[1:36:58] At that point,

[1:36:59] we've used the lifespan

[1:37:01] of our turf and, you know, 50%

[1:37:02] of our investment.

[1:37:05] >> That probably would be more

[1:37:06] of a structural amendment

[1:37:08] because the way that, you know,

[1:37:09] termination provisions are set

[1:37:10] up now and stuff. I mean,

[1:37:12] I could definitely rework that

[1:37:13] here, but it's going

[1:37:15] to take me a little bit

[1:37:17] of time.

[1:37:19] >> Okay. And I don't mean

[1:37:20] to speak for everyone, but I

[1:37:21] believe that's what I'm

[1:37:22] hearing.

[1:37:23] >> Yeah. 10 years.

[1:37:25] >> That is, we'd like to have

[1:37:26] an assurance that we make this

[1:37:28] investment,

[1:37:29] that we will not be terminated

[1:37:31] before the minimum of 10 years,

[1:37:34] even though we have a 40-year

[1:37:36] thing.

[1:37:40] >> Yeah. That's what I want

[1:37:41] to see, guaranteed that no

[1:37:44] matter as far as when they tell

[1:37:47] us ahead of time, that's not

[1:37:48] all that important. important.

[1:37:52] I guess a couple of years,

[1:37:54] you don't want to be 9 and a

[1:37:55] half years and then somebody

[1:37:56] comes and say, hey, you got

[1:37:57] to get out, you know.

[1:38:00] >> Okay, then what I would need

[1:38:01] to know after

[1:38:02] >> So I want to make a motion

[1:38:04] to postpone our decision

[1:38:05] on the floor.

[1:38:10] >> Address the chair. What

[1:38:12] motion are you seeking?

[1:38:14] >> If we're gonna try and amend

[1:38:16] this, I don't want to do this

[1:38:17] on the I think that we should

[1:38:19] all give our input and have

[1:38:20] something different written.

[1:38:22] And if that's what the board

[1:38:23] members feel that they want

[1:38:25] to do, then I guess we postpone

[1:38:28] it again. I don't know,

[1:38:35] but I tried not to.

[1:38:39] >> Are you making a motion

[1:38:41] to postpone?

[1:38:42] >> I am.

[1:38:43] >> That's a higher order

[1:38:44] motion, so it needs

[1:38:46] to be considered

[1:38:48] before action. If you get a

[1:38:49] second, that is.

[1:38:51] >> Then I make that motion.

[1:38:53] >> Is there a second? Is there

[1:39:02] a second?

[1:39:09] >> Then I'll second that so we

[1:39:10] can have a conversation.

[1:39:13] >> Okay, converse.

[1:39:15] >> So discussion-wise,

[1:39:17] my concern is that we're going

[1:39:19] to try and fix what's a lengthy

[1:39:22] multi-page agreement

[1:39:25] with paragraphs that refer

[1:39:26] to different things and overlap

[1:39:28] in many ways, looking quickly

[1:39:35] at a meeting And I have more

[1:39:42] than 2 concerns. And so I just

[1:39:48] don't feel comfortable from a

[1:39:50] legal perspective deciding

[1:39:52] on something that quickly. So

[1:39:55] that's why I made the motion.

[1:40:07] >> Any other discussion?

[1:40:12] >> You're talking

[1:40:13] about a postponement, but are

[1:40:14] you suggesting that we air our

[1:40:15] concerns here,

[1:40:16] you go back and rewrite this,

[1:40:17] and then we revisit it again,

[1:40:18] and it won't happen

[1:40:19] before their, their meeting

[1:40:22] unless we have some sort of

[1:40:24] emergency meeting? I understand

[1:40:25] the time constraints. Is that

[1:40:26] what we're talking about,

[1:40:30] and is that possible?

[1:40:32] >> Their next meeting is the

[1:40:33] 7th, so yeah, I mean, it'd be

[1:40:35] an exceedingly fast turnaround.

[1:40:39] Yeah, I mean, as far as the

[1:40:42] 10-year provision you're

[1:40:44] talking about, that would be

[1:40:46] that would change the structure

[1:40:47] of the agreement and be a

[1:40:49] little more substantive. I can

[1:40:51] definitely do that tonight if

[1:40:52] everyone's happy to sit

[1:40:55] around and wait. But,

[1:40:58] for what it's worth,

[1:40:59] that wasn't included in the

[1:41:00] previously board-approved

[1:41:04] March agreement, so that would

[1:41:06] be something new.

[1:41:07] >> Just like the village keeps

[1:41:09] coming back with new stuff,

[1:41:14] not to mention the fact that

[1:41:15] they want us to indemnify them

[1:41:16] no matter what happens and

[1:41:17] when. I mean, there's so much

[1:41:19] in here that I find

[1:41:21] problematic, and I just don't

[1:41:27] see how nobody else thinks

[1:41:32] that's a problem. And we agreed

[1:41:34] at the last time we discussed

[1:41:37] this that once we approved a

[1:41:39] price, that we were going

[1:41:42] to hold to that price. But this

[1:41:43] new license agreement says even

[1:41:45] after the price,

[1:41:48] they can make changes. And

[1:41:51] there's no inspection on their

[1:41:54] part required when they're done

[1:41:55] with the field. So if they have

[1:41:57] a giant event like the

[1:41:58] Founders Nautical Market and

[1:41:59] something happens

[1:42:01] to the field,

[1:42:04] it's our problem.

[1:42:07] >> And just, just to clarify,

[1:42:08] based

[1:42:09] on this license agreement,

[1:42:10] just to clarify

[1:42:12] on that point, There is

[1:42:14] provisions

[1:42:15] in there that if they, you

[1:42:16] know, if either side uses a

[1:42:17] field that doesn't comply

[1:42:18] with the, you know, specs and

[1:42:21] warranty,

[1:42:22] that they're responsible

[1:42:23] for that damage. And then as

[1:42:25] far as the maintenance, it's

[1:42:26] contemplated that the school

[1:42:29] district is responsible

[1:42:30] for year-round. So school

[1:42:31] district always has its eyes

[1:42:32] on it,

[1:42:33] and then the village just pays

[1:42:34] for the cost

[1:42:35] of that maintenance during the

[1:42:36] time that they have the field.

[1:42:43] >> But who's inspecting it and

[1:42:46] when?

[1:42:47] >> Well, I mean,

[1:42:52] whoever's doing maintenance

[1:42:53] for the district.

[1:42:54] >> So the district's going

[1:42:55] to be on Founders Park property

[1:42:56] year-round taking care

[1:42:57] of the field? Yeah, that's what

[1:42:59] it does right now.

[1:43:00] >> That would be a question

[1:43:01] for Mr. LaFere, but I'm not

[1:43:04] sure how often maintenance

[1:43:09] workers would be

[1:43:10] out there doing

[1:43:11] >> We don't do anything

[1:43:12] on the field right now, is We

[1:43:13] are in the process of taking

[1:43:14] over the maintenance

[1:43:16] of the field year-round

[1:43:17] to have one team working

[1:43:19] on it and then working

[1:43:20] out compensation

[1:43:21] with the village.

[1:43:23] >> And price changes? What's

[1:43:26] unreasonable and where is that

[1:43:28] defined?

[1:43:34] >> There's a provision in there

[1:43:36] currently that says if they,

[1:43:37] they make any changes

[1:43:39] to the planes

[1:43:40] in their ownership capacity,

[1:43:41] that they're responsible

[1:43:43] for that price increase, if

[1:43:45] that's what you're referring

[1:43:46] to.

[1:43:50] >> Say that again.

[1:43:52] >> Let me give me one second.

[1:44:01] I'll pull it up here.

[1:44:18] >> So it's this section here. I

[1:44:21] can certainly read it

[1:44:22] out if you'd like Yes. But it's

[1:44:23] essentially saying that the

[1:44:24] school board is responsible

[1:44:26] for all costs related to the

[1:44:28] construction and renovation

[1:44:29] of the baseball field, except

[1:44:33] in the event that the Village

[1:44:34] in its property ownership

[1:44:35] capacity objects and recommends

[1:44:37] changes to the submittals,

[1:44:39] which is the, you know,

[1:44:41] design documents and what have

[1:44:42] you, that the Village is

[1:44:45] responsible for the costs,

[1:44:46] fees, and expenses associated

[1:44:47] And then what

[1:44:48] about their denial

[1:44:54] of our contractor? I mean, I

[1:45:07] think the language is that it

[1:45:08] can't be unreasonably withheld.

[1:45:13] >> That's the unreasonable

[1:45:14] part.

[1:45:15] >> Yeah, I mean, I'm not aware

[1:45:16] of anyone having issues

[1:45:19] with the contractor,

[1:45:21] but I will go

[1:45:23] to the language.

[1:45:28] >> And I thought they were

[1:45:29] responsible. I had a discussion

[1:45:30] with that they would be

[1:45:35] responsible, for instance,

[1:45:36] if the during the seafood

[1:45:41] festival or whatever they had,

[1:45:42] the nautical market,

[1:45:44] that if they had

[1:45:45] like a grease truck, you know,

[1:45:47] somebody cooking and the grease

[1:45:49] got on there,

[1:45:50] that they would be responsible

[1:45:51] for fixing that.

[1:45:52] >> Yes, there's language

[1:45:53] to that effect in there,

[1:45:54] and I'll scroll down

[1:45:56] with it if Mrs. Conn's done

[1:45:59] with this section I have up

[1:46:00] there now.

[1:46:04] >> What are we on?

[1:46:05] >> The contractor.

[1:46:07] >> This is the contractor about

[1:46:08] >> I know your understanding is

[1:46:12] they have no problem,

[1:46:13] but if they have no problem,

[1:46:15] why is this paragraph

[1:46:16] in the agreement?

[1:46:19] >> It's just what they

[1:46:20] requested.

[1:46:21] >> Exactly.

[1:46:41] >> Here's the provision you're

[1:46:42] requesting, Mr. Dick. It's use

[1:46:43] of artificial turf. Says,

[1:46:45] licensor and licensee shall not

[1:46:47] permit the baseball field

[1:46:49] to be used in contravention to

[1:46:50] any applicable specifications,

[1:46:52] warranties, and, or manufacturer

[1:46:54] instructions.

[1:46:58] And the parties shall be

[1:46:59] solely responsible

[1:47:00] for all damage caused

[1:47:07] by such prohibited use, and

[1:47:08] that licensees shall provide

[1:47:09] licensor with a copy of the

[1:47:11] applicable specifications,

[1:47:12] warranties, and/or manufacturer

[1:47:13] instructions.

[1:47:14] >> So we covered on a couple

[1:47:15] of these points already. As far

[1:47:16] as the contractor, they

[1:47:17] to me,

[1:47:18] I don't believe they're going

[1:47:19] to, you know, say that our

[1:47:20] contractor is no good. They

[1:47:22] have to have a real No solid

[1:47:23] reason.

[1:47:25] >> Then why have it in there?

[1:47:26] >> Well, you know, they wanted

[1:47:28] it there. I'm not going

[1:47:29] to fight over it.

[1:47:31] >> They're not going

[1:47:32] to be unreasonable,

[1:47:33] and they're fine

[1:47:34] with our contractor. We don't

[1:47:35] need it in the agreement. And

[1:47:36] then once we pass this,

[1:47:38] we still have to come up

[1:47:40] with a use agreement.

[1:47:45] >> Well, to me, the use

[1:47:47] agreement is a calendar.

[1:47:48] >> It's my understanding

[1:47:51] >> If it were a calendar, then

[1:47:52] we wouldn't need it because

[1:47:54] there's a calendar in here. We

[1:47:55] get it from January to

[1:47:56] >> No, the use agreement is

[1:47:58] essentially a calendar. I would

[1:48:00] hope that the baseball people

[1:48:01] would nod their head if that is

[1:48:02] the case. It's a calendar

[1:48:04] of what year, what the date

[1:48:05] that's that the practice

[1:48:11] starts, which days we have

[1:48:12] games, when we're expecting

[1:48:14] to be finished

[1:48:16] with the season. That is what

[1:48:17] the use agreement

[1:48:18] in the past has been.

[1:48:22] >> Yes, Hunter, can we get back

[1:48:27] to the contractor? Yeah, I'm

[1:48:29] sorry, I'm sorry, no, finish.

[1:48:31] Just thinking about that, the

[1:48:32] contractor is there some is

[1:48:33] there a deadline? Like, if they

[1:48:35] have an issue

[1:48:36] with our contractor,

[1:48:37] what is the time frame

[1:48:38] on that? At what point?

[1:48:40] Because if we don't get moving

[1:48:41] on that shortly, we'll never

[1:48:42] make a deadline anyway. They

[1:48:45] have 60 days. We've already

[1:48:47] >> We have, right? The, yeah,

[1:48:52] so it, it mainly talks about

[1:48:54] 60 days as for the periods

[1:48:56] for approval by the village.

[1:49:00] You know, I spoke with the

[1:49:01] village's attorney and, you

[1:49:02] know,

[1:49:03] let them know that time is of

[1:49:04] the essence as far as that

[1:49:05] goes. And I spoke with Pat

[1:49:07] as well so that if If this were

[1:49:08] to be approved tonight,

[1:49:09] we would get those submittals

[1:49:10] over to the village so that

[1:49:12] they could hopefully approve

[1:49:13] any and all

[1:49:14] of their submittals by the

[1:49:16] July meeting.

[1:49:17] >> Do you have any idea why

[1:49:18] that stipulation is

[1:49:19] in there? I mean, the

[1:49:21] contractor that was chosen is

[1:49:22] licensed, bonded,

[1:49:23] has built an airport and many,

[1:49:24] many other things,

[1:49:25] has insurance. What would be a

[1:49:27] reasonable objection?

[1:49:29] >> I mean, I think this is a,

[1:49:30] you know, a lot is a creature

[1:49:33] of what this original agreement

[1:49:34] was back then.

[1:49:35] >> Let's take it out.

[1:49:36] >> Remove it. Let's remove it.

[1:49:39] >> The peanut gallery

[1:49:40] over here. All right,

[1:49:42] remove that. Let's get the 10

[1:49:43] years in. We don't even need

[1:49:44] to come up with something.

[1:49:45] Let's just remove the whole

[1:49:46] paragraph.

[1:49:49] >> I think we do have a motion

[1:49:50] to postpone first, so. That's

[1:49:52] true.

[1:49:53] >> That is true. Okay. Again,

[1:49:55] I'm happy to

[1:49:56] >> I'm happy to amend all that.

[1:49:57] >> Discussion

[1:49:59] on the motion I get a dispose

[1:50:01] of the motion to postpone

[1:50:02] unless there's more discussion

[1:50:03] on the motion

[1:50:04] to postpone.

[1:50:05] >> Is there any further

[1:50:06] discussion?

[1:50:07] >> Call the roll.

[1:50:11] >> What are we voting on?

[1:50:12] >> Motion to postpone.

[1:50:15] >> [CALLING ROLL]

[1:50:29] >> Motion.

[1:50:30] >> So the motion fails.

[1:50:32] >> All right, let's get back

[1:50:33] to the motion that okay, that

[1:50:35] with the adjustments. And you

[1:50:38] want to add you want to add

[1:50:41] removing the contract clause

[1:50:43] where they have the right

[1:50:44] to

[1:50:47] >> I want to amend my original

[1:50:48] motion to Whatever it was, to

[1:50:50] include whatever paragraph.

[1:50:52] >> Why don't we do this?

[1:50:54] Wait, wait. Why don't we do

[1:50:58] this? Go through it all. Go

[1:50:59] through it all. No. Okay. And

[1:51:02] when you do the edits

[1:51:07] on the fly like this, go

[1:51:08] through it all and then move

[1:51:10] to adopt it as edited. That's

[1:51:11] the cleanest way.

[1:51:12] >> We've addressed a lot

[1:51:13] of your issues, right?

[1:51:14] >> Do all your changes. My

[1:51:15] original.

[1:51:16] >> Then I need to withdraw my

[1:51:17] amendment. Yes. Motion and and.

[1:51:18] So my new motion is to make

[1:51:21] edits here as best as we can

[1:51:22] and And then move forward

[1:51:24] with that to be adopted. And

[1:51:25] readopt the amended motion.

[1:51:30] >> So withdraw your prior

[1:51:31] motion.

[1:51:32] >> I'd like to withdraw my

[1:51:33] prior motion.

[1:51:34] >> And whoever seconded,

[1:51:35] withdraw your second.

[1:51:36] >> I withdraw my second.

[1:51:38] >> And then I would like

[1:51:40] to make a motion to

[1:51:41] >> Wait, wait, wait. Don't you

[1:51:42] want to go through So you want

[1:51:43] to go through it first,

[1:51:44] make all your changes,

[1:51:45] and then move

[1:51:47] to adopt it as amended?

[1:51:48] >> Yes. So the contract

[1:51:49] >> Yeah, yeah. Okay, so go

[1:51:50] through your changes now.

[1:51:51] >> Get rid

[1:51:52] of that one where they have

[1:51:54] to approve the contract.

[1:51:55] >> What?

[1:51:57] >> Do, do we want to start

[1:51:58] at the beginning and work

[1:51:59] through it, or do you want me

[1:52:00] to just jump around as you guys

[1:52:01] point something out?

[1:52:02] >> I would like to start

[1:52:04] at the beginning and work

[1:52:05] through so we don't miss

[1:52:06] anything.

[1:52:07] >> Certainly, certainly.

[1:52:22] >> You know, I'm feeling the

[1:52:23] room and we all kind

[1:52:25] of feel it that way too. We

[1:52:26] have no idea what provisions

[1:52:28] we're talking about now.

[1:52:34] >> That's why we're here.

[1:52:35] >> I'm feeling the room. We

[1:52:37] have no idea because we have

[1:52:39] heard nothing about whether

[1:52:40] these things would be approved

[1:52:42] or not when we have presented

[1:52:43] to you guys before. In fact,

[1:52:45] we've heard that they are that

[1:52:46] no one is interested

[1:52:48] in improving it. And we heard

[1:52:50] tonight from public speakers

[1:52:53] that public speakers didn't

[1:52:55] want to approve this. So we're

[1:52:57] going to try

[1:52:59] to improve this. I'm sorry. So

[1:53:00] it is agreeable to everyone

[1:53:02] on our side with an idea that

[1:53:03] we will send that to the

[1:53:05] village and see what parts they

[1:53:06] will are willing to approve.

[1:53:09] And if there are sticking

[1:53:11] points on some parts,

[1:53:13] then we'll come back

[1:53:16] in an agenda meeting

[1:53:23] with both groups to discuss

[1:53:25] those sticking points. The

[1:53:27] parts we agree on,

[1:53:28] we'll just agree on.

[1:53:37] >> Are there any proposed

[1:53:38] changes

[1:53:39] to the recital section?

[1:53:41] >> No.

[1:53:44] >> Okay, hearing none, on

[1:53:49] to paragraph 1, grant of

[1:53:51] license and use. I imagine the

[1:53:54] first one we have is

[1:54:04] >> or sorry, I wish I could see

[1:54:05] this as a single page.

[1:54:14] >> There we go. Okay.

[1:54:15] >> Anything for paragraph 1,

[1:54:17] grant of license and use?

[1:54:20] >> I guess that's my question.

[1:54:22] It states there its hours

[1:54:23] from January 1st to May 31st.

[1:54:25] So what's the use agreement,

[1:54:28] if that is an agreement

[1:54:33] for the use of the baseball

[1:54:34] field?

[1:54:39] >> I believe it's really just a

[1:54:40] calendar. I think this is as I

[1:54:41] understand it,

[1:54:42] this is essentially Okay. Am I

[1:54:44] good to move

[1:54:53] to the next section?

[1:54:54] >> Yes.

[1:54:56] >> Okay. On

[1:54:57] to the next section,

[1:55:01] which is number 2, license fee.

[1:55:02] I don't imagine that there's

[1:55:07] any changes there. Okay. On

[1:55:08] to Section 3 term, we have the

[1:55:11] initial use term and renewal

[1:55:13] options.

[1:55:18] >> Well, this is a part I want

[1:55:19] to look at.

[1:55:23] >> Yeah, so again, this is

[1:55:24] really just saying that it's a

[1:55:26] 20-year initial period starting

[1:55:29] on July 7th with 2 automatic

[1:55:32] renewals for 10 years each.

[1:55:34] And it just gives the village

[1:55:37] the option to, just basically

[1:55:39] rescind the renewal on 3 years'

[1:55:45] notice. Really, it's,

[1:55:47] it's kind

[1:55:49] of just extra language. The,

[1:55:50] the point I would like to get

[1:55:54] across here is that the

[1:55:56] termination provision is really

[1:55:57] the main one to look at, and

[1:55:59] that is the one that just says

[1:56:00] they can terminate at any time

[1:56:01] on 3 years' notice.

[1:56:04] >> Yeah, the initial use term

[1:56:05] is fine. I don't like the

[1:56:07] language regarding provided in

[1:56:13] the other paragraphs because

[1:56:14] I'm not happy

[1:56:16] with the other paragraphs. So

[1:56:17] that's my only issue

[1:56:18] with the initial use term.

[1:56:20] Like, it's referencing the

[1:56:21] other paragraphs that everybody

[1:56:22] on the board wants

[1:56:23] to change.

[1:56:25] >> The other paragraph.

[1:56:31] >> So how about this? How, how

[1:56:34] many years advance notice would

[1:56:36] this board like either party

[1:56:38] to be required

[1:56:39] to provide? I believe 5 was

[1:56:43] what you guys approved in

[1:56:44] March, just

[1:56:45] for reference.

[1:56:47] >> 5 years notice

[1:56:49] after the 10-year mark,

[1:56:51] right? We have to have 10

[1:56:53] years. I don't care that

[1:56:54] You're mixing the notice

[1:56:56] with the time. We have to get

[1:56:59] 10 years. Now, if they're going

[1:57:02] to throw us out,

[1:57:05] I don't care if it's 1 or 2

[1:57:06] years. It's got to well,

[1:57:07] it's got

[1:57:09] to be probably more than a

[1:57:11] year. But why would they tell

[1:57:13] us if we sign the thing today

[1:57:15] and we're starting on 10 years,

[1:57:16] do you really think that they

[1:57:18] would come

[1:57:19] to us the next year and say,

[1:57:21] we want you out. And so whether

[1:57:24] it's 5 years, I mean, 5 years,

[1:57:26] if it's 5 years, it's going to

[1:57:28] be a different council that

[1:57:30] said that'll be sitting when,

[1:57:32] when the 5 years is up and they

[1:57:33] might change their mind. It's

[1:57:35] just as long as we have 10

[1:57:37] years, I don't care how long

[1:57:38] they give us to tell us,

[1:57:39] as long as we have 10 Right.

[1:57:41] In there, that they cannot take

[1:57:43] us out.

[1:57:53] >> Okay. That would probably be

[1:57:54] addressed

[1:57:55] in the termination provision,

[1:57:56] but again right.

[1:57:57] >> That's where it's going

[1:57:59] to be, not here.

[1:58:02] >> Right. Right.

[1:58:05] But just as far as, you know,

[1:58:06] assuming the, you know, 10

[1:58:08] years passes without a hitch,

[1:58:09] what do we want

[1:58:11] for the advance notice? Are you

[1:58:13] guys okay with 3 years,

[1:58:14] or do you want it to be 5

[1:58:15] years?

[1:58:16] >> I think we need 5 years to

[1:58:17] build a baseball field

[1:58:18] somewhere else.

[1:58:19] >> Yeah. The ILA says what?

[1:58:20] The original this I thought we

[1:58:22] were changing from 5 to 3

[1:58:24] to make it to align it

[1:58:25] to the original ILA. Is that is

[1:58:28] my memory incorrect?

[1:58:31] >> Well, the license agreement

[1:58:32] that the village passed in

[1:58:34] January was 2 years, and then

[1:58:39] This board went to 5 years in

[1:58:40] the version that you guys

[1:58:42] passed in March, so I think 3

[1:58:44] years is kind of just a middle

[1:58:45] ground.

[1:58:48] >> I think 3 is okay.

[1:58:50] >> We need 5 years to rebuild

[1:58:51] and find another property.

[1:58:52] >> So we want 5 years. We want

[1:58:54] it at 5. 5 years' notice.

[1:59:02] >> 60 months.

[1:59:03] >> If you do the math.

[1:59:21] >> Which means if we're here

[1:59:23] 10 years and at that the end

[1:59:26] of 10 years they say we want

[1:59:27] you out, we have another 5

[1:59:28] years.

[1:59:30] >> Right.

[1:59:33] >> But they cannot so if they

[1:59:34] wanted to throw us

[1:59:36] out the earliest possible,

[1:59:37] they would have to, 5 years

[1:59:39] into it, say to us,

[1:59:41] we want you out in 5 years.

[1:59:42] >> Right? That's the dirt.

[1:59:44] That's what I want,

[1:59:46] that we are guaranteed 10

[1:59:47] years.

[1:59:49] >> I mean, if you're reading

[1:59:50] the law

[1:59:52] The initial term is 20

[1:59:53] years.

[1:59:54] >> Yeah, but we have to renew

[1:59:56] it.

[1:59:57] >> Right. I imagine the way I

[1:59:58] imagine that is just revising

[1:59:59] the termination provision,

[2:00:00] just putting language in there

[2:00:01] that you know says something

[2:00:02] to the effect of

[2:00:04] after a period of ten years,

[2:00:05] the parties can terminate at

[2:00:07] any time upon five years

[2:00:09] advance notice. Basically,

[2:00:11] that's that's what I imagine we

[2:00:13] will do when we get

[2:00:14] to that section.

[2:00:15] >> I'd love to get

[2:00:16] to twenty years, but whatever

[2:00:18] somebody's got something up

[2:00:19] their sleeve that they want

[2:00:20] to do.

[2:00:21] >> This section isn't really

[2:00:22] where you're focused. This

[2:00:23] section here, if you read it.

[2:00:24] there it's a 20-year term that

[2:00:25] can be terminated with 36

[2:00:27] months' notice. So it says

[2:00:28] license not material upon the

[2:00:29] expiration

[2:00:31] of the initial period,

[2:00:34] which is 20 years, it should be

[2:00:35] automatically extended upon the

[2:00:36] same terms and conditions

[2:00:37] for up to 2 additional 10-year

[2:00:38] periods unless the licensor

[2:00:39] delivers written notice 5 years

[2:00:41] in advance.

[2:00:43] So what that says to me,

[2:00:45] and I'm trying to make sure I'm

[2:00:46] reading it right, Is the 20

[2:00:48] years is ours.

[2:00:49] >> But they could throw us out.

[2:00:51] >> They could give you a

[2:00:52] termination.

[2:00:54] >> Well, that's a different

[2:00:55] section.

[2:00:56] >> Get rid of that.

[2:00:57] >> This section says 20 years

[2:00:58] is ours, provided they give us

[2:00:59] 36 months or 60 months notice,

[2:01:00] whatever. So the initial term

[2:01:01] is 20 years. The real problem

[2:01:02] is the termination section,

[2:01:03] correct?

[2:01:05] >> Yes.

[2:01:06] >> Correct.

[2:01:07] >> Okay, so

[2:01:08] >> But we do want the 60 months

[2:01:09] in the renewal.

[2:01:11] >> Fine.

[2:01:12] >> Right.

[2:01:13] >> But your initial period is

[2:01:14] 20 years.

[2:01:15] >> Right.

[2:01:17] >> But whenever they don't

[2:01:18] renew, we still have to find

[2:01:19] and build another baseball

[2:01:20] field, and we need 5 years

[2:01:21] for that. So that would be 60

[2:01:23] months.

[2:01:26] >> If the term with this 20

[2:01:27] years, they could still the way

[2:01:28] it is written now,

[2:01:29] they could throw us out.

[2:01:30] >> That's, not this section.

[2:01:32] >> The termination section is

[2:01:33] where you want

[2:01:35] to focus on.

[2:01:36] >> For this section,

[2:01:37] I think the 3 years is okay.

[2:01:38] >> 20 years, 5 years notice.

[2:01:39] And the 5 years' notice applies

[2:01:40] to the not initial term. It

[2:01:42] applies to the 2nd and 3rd

[2:01:43] renewals.

[2:01:44] >> Right, exactly.

[2:01:45] >> So your issue is going

[2:01:46] to come

[2:01:47] at the termination session, not

[2:01:48] here.

[2:01:49] >> I think the fee renewal

[2:01:50] options, in my opinion,

[2:01:51] it should be 60 months.

[2:01:53] >> Yeah. I think we this is

[2:01:59] like the one thing that we have

[2:02:03] Compromised on

[2:02:05] through negotiations is the 5

[2:02:09] and the 2, and we are going

[2:02:11] back to 5, so we are sort of

[2:02:12] doing the same thing that we

[2:02:14] were saying was happening

[2:02:16] before. So if that is a

[2:02:19] sticking point, you know,

[2:02:21] I mean

[2:02:22] >> It is a sticking point for

[2:02:25] me because we have been what is

[2:02:27] essentially bargaining

[2:02:28] against ourselves. We keep

[2:02:29] giving them new options and new

[2:02:30] proposals.

[2:02:37] >> if I may take a little straw

[2:02:40] poll. If it's 10 years initial

[2:02:42] guaranteed, what is each

[2:02:45] of yours' vote

[2:02:46] on a 3-year notice

[2:02:48] of termination?

[2:02:50] >> This is 20 years initial

[2:02:51] guarantee, right?

[2:02:53] >> Right.

[2:02:54] >> You guys suggested 10.

[2:02:56] >> Okay.

[2:02:58] >> Again, just stick with me

[2:02:59] on the concept,

[2:03:00] not the language for now,

[2:03:02] for purposes of this. So if you

[2:03:04] get it in there that you have

[2:03:05] 10 years guaranteed use

[2:03:07] of the field, how much advance

[2:03:09] notice do you want

[2:03:11] after that? What is everybody

[2:03:12] what's it whether it's 3 or 5?

[2:03:14] >> I'm at 5 simply because

[2:03:15] there's no way for us

[2:03:16] to build a new baseball field

[2:03:17] without 5 years. That's the

[2:03:19] only reason I'm at 5.

[2:03:25] >> You're at 5, you bet.

[2:03:26] >> I'll go with 5. Leave it

[2:03:28] at 5.

[2:03:30] >> Ok. All right.

[2:03:32] >> Well, I think we can move

[2:03:33] on to the next section then,

[2:03:35] which is construction and

[2:03:36] renovation of improvements.

[2:03:38] Any suggested edits as far as A

[2:03:40] or B, since they are what fit

[2:03:42] on the screen right now?

[2:03:45] >> So one of the things I've

[2:03:53] been hearing is

[2:03:54] about bleachers. So I guess my

[2:03:58] question is, are we fine just

[2:04:00] not adding bleachers

[2:04:04] to the baseball field?

[2:04:07] >> My understanding is that

[2:04:09] bleachers aren't a part

[2:04:10] of this phase of construction.

[2:04:11] >> I understand that, but one

[2:04:14] of the Ron, don't be rude,

[2:04:16] please. You said bleachers were

[2:04:21] one of the big problems, so now

[2:04:23] bleachers are no longer an

[2:04:25] issue on the field?

[2:04:29] >> I said the placement

[2:04:30] of the bleachers in the plan

[2:04:31] with the stadium were an issue.

[2:04:33] >> So it's not

[2:04:34] about the safety or the number

[2:04:35] of bleachers that are currently

[2:04:36] there?

[2:04:40] >> Once we my understanding is

[2:04:41] once we build bleachers,

[2:04:44] we have to build bathrooms.

[2:04:47] That's what happened with

[2:04:48] Tommy Roberts. So if we leave

[2:04:49] the bleachers,

[2:04:51] we can't do the bleachers

[2:04:52] without the bathroom. So it

[2:04:53] makes sense for the bleachers

[2:04:55] to come

[2:04:56] in as the amenities later.

[2:04:58] >> Okay. Move on.

[2:05:07] >> How about 4C?

[2:05:17] >> Okay. Going back

[2:05:19] to improvements,

[2:05:21] we are solely responsible for

[2:05:23] and shall have sole discretion

[2:05:25] to determine when the

[2:05:28] improvements are in need

[2:05:29] of modification, renovation,

[2:05:30] and, or replacement. So that is

[2:05:31] not a village option? Because

[2:05:34] I'm fine with that.

[2:05:36] >> That's correct.

[2:05:41] >> Okay. Move on.

[2:05:42] >> I don't

[2:05:44] >> I just, you know,

[2:05:45] logistically, because this is a

[2:05:46] narrowed-down license agreement

[2:05:47] to just this baseball field and

[2:05:48] because we have a time

[2:05:50] constraint, I, you know,

[2:05:56] I wonder if we should go from

[2:05:57] If it's reasonable to go from

[2:05:59] 60 to 30 days so that we can

[2:06:01] get the plan the approvals done

[2:06:03] in a timely manner.

[2:06:09] >> You know what,

[2:06:10] you don't need to put it

[2:06:11] in there.

[2:06:12] >> Okay. We'll just encourage

[2:06:13] Everybody wants things done as

[2:06:14] fast as possible.

[2:06:15] >> Okay. That's fine. I don't

[2:06:17] think we need

[2:06:18] to write that out.

[2:06:20] >> Okay. Contractor, I believe

[2:06:22] I believe the request was

[2:06:24] to delete that section.

[2:06:26] >> Is that correct? Yep. Get

[2:06:28] rid of it. You can do that

[2:06:32] right now with the magic.

[2:06:38] >> Track changes.

[2:06:41] >> I sure am, Pat. So has the

[2:06:44] village already had their

[2:06:47] required Or optional right

[2:06:50] to review the design

[2:06:51] in an open public meeting.

[2:06:53] Have they done that already?

[2:06:57] >> I do not personally know

[2:06:58] that.

[2:07:02] >> That's their thing.

[2:07:03] >> Village manager is here.

[2:07:07] Did you already have an open

[2:07:08] meeting on the design?

[2:07:10] >> I'm asking.

[2:07:12] >> Is he not allowed to talk,

[2:07:14] if I may ask?

[2:07:16] >> The chair has

[2:07:17] to recognize him.

[2:07:22] >> Yeah, I will recognize Ron

[2:07:23] Saunders, Village Manager,

[2:07:24] but let's keep that

[2:07:26] to a minimum. Go ahead, Ron.

[2:07:30] >> Just asking the one

[2:07:31] question.

[2:07:37] >> What was the question?

[2:07:39] >> In Paragraph C,

[2:07:41] approved plans, there's a

[2:07:43] paragraph, second paragraph,

[2:07:45] saying that the village shall

[2:07:46] at its sole option have the

[2:07:47] right to review the designs at

[2:07:49] an open public meeting or

[2:07:50] workshop and

[2:07:51] to solicit community input

[2:07:54] in the designs. Has that been

[2:07:56] done? Because that affects

[2:07:57] whether or not I'm going to

[2:08:00] approve the GMP.

[2:08:02] >> I believe this language was

[2:08:03] put

[2:08:04] in there when we were looking

[2:08:05] at the concession building.

[2:08:07] Now that the building is no

[2:08:08] longer in consideration, I

[2:08:10] don't think that's applicable.

[2:08:11] Our building officials have

[2:08:13] already been meeting

[2:08:15] with the contractor. And

[2:08:16] by the way, just

[2:08:17] for the record,

[2:08:18] we have no objection to

[2:08:19] Keystar. I assume that's the

[2:08:20] contractor you're talking

[2:08:21] about. We have no problem

[2:08:22] with Keystar, and we've been

[2:08:23] working with them already. I've

[2:08:24] already we've already kind

[2:08:25] of pre-approved the plans for

[2:08:26] the field and the fence and the

[2:08:28] dugout. I think this language

[2:08:30] is more applicable to The

[2:08:31] building where we want

[2:08:32] to input. We don't need the

[2:08:33] building we don't need input

[2:08:34] on the field. So if you take

[2:08:35] out the public meeting,

[2:08:37] I think we would be fine

[2:08:38] with that.

[2:08:40] >> Let's remove those

[2:08:41] paragraphs.

[2:08:42] >> Thank you, Ron.

[2:09:21] >> Is that consistent with what

[2:09:22] you're we're requesting?

[2:09:26] >> Removal of the paragraph

[2:09:27] starting

[2:09:28] with the word prior.

[2:09:37] >> I think you can get rid

[2:09:38] of the whole paragraph.

[2:09:39] >> Right.

[2:09:56] >> Anything for performance or

[2:09:57] construction liens?

[2:10:00] >> Just a quick question.

[2:10:01] We've already noticed them

[2:10:02] with Keystar. That's taken

[2:10:03] place, so we've met paragraph

[2:10:07] D.

[2:10:11] >> D is deleted.

[2:10:12] >> Okay, so that's the one we

[2:10:13] took out.

[2:10:14] >> Yep.

[2:10:20] >> Right. Okay. Performance.

[2:10:22] So everything's 60 days, but

[2:10:32] are we hoping or assuming that

[2:10:33] it won't take 60 days? We're

[2:10:34] just giving them 60 days

[2:10:36] for everything? Because 2

[2:10:39] months, 2 months, 2 months, 2

[2:10:41] months, and wear it next year

[2:10:43] for the baseball field?

[2:10:47] >> You know, quite frankly,

[2:10:50] the village attorney I met

[2:10:51] with on this was not their

[2:10:53] usual attorney, John Quick. It

[2:10:55] was a different one. So I don't

[2:10:57] know how in tune they were

[2:10:59] with what was going on. They

[2:11:00] were insistent

[2:11:01] on this language. But, you

[2:11:02] know, I think, I think it's

[2:11:05] just good faith that everyone's

[2:11:06] moving as fast as possible

[2:11:08] on this.

[2:11:09] >> Okay.

[2:11:17] >> So let's go to the early

[2:11:18] termination payment.

[2:11:24] >> Aye.

[2:11:25] >> Okay.

[2:11:26] >> Everybody's good

[2:11:28] with standards

[2:11:29] of construction and comply with

[2:11:30] applicable law?

[2:11:31] >> I am.

[2:11:34] >> Anybody else?

[2:11:36] >> Everybody's fine.

[2:11:38] >> Okay. Early termination

[2:11:39] payment.

[2:11:44] >> This one you got

[2:11:46] to write correct.

[2:11:51] >> We're going to need an

[2:11:53] amortization amount based

[2:11:58] on different things. If we're

[2:11:59] going to do the turf field

[2:12:01] to the 10 years that it's

[2:12:02] warranted for, because the

[2:12:04] other buildings have much

[2:12:05] longer lives. And this one says

[2:12:15] 8 years. It doesn't even do the

[2:12:16] life

[2:12:17] of the baseball field.

[2:12:22] >> Right.

[2:12:29] >> Okay, so what is the period

[2:12:31] of years you would like to go

[2:12:32] off of?

[2:12:33] >> Well, that's what I'm

[2:12:35] saying. 10 years is fine

[2:12:36] for me for the turf field,

[2:12:37] but it shouldn't necessarily be

[2:12:38] for the other improvements 10

[2:12:40] years. Or if they want to make

[2:12:42] it easy and make it one number,

[2:12:43] then we need to figure

[2:12:45] out what the life

[2:12:46] of the fencing, the dugout, and

[2:12:47] all the improvements are.

[2:12:50] >> Well, we can leave that

[2:12:52] at the 20 years.

[2:12:53] >> Okay.

[2:13:03] >> So this is going to 10

[2:13:04] years?

[2:13:06] >> 20.

[2:13:07] >> 20.

[2:13:37] >> Okay. So is that kind of

[2:13:39] like a buyout provision? So

[2:13:41] then

[2:13:42] >> When they own all

[2:13:43] of our improvements, it

[2:13:45] wouldn't matter because then

[2:13:46] they've essentially bought them

[2:13:47] from us? Because J

[2:13:53] Improvements says they get

[2:13:54] to keep and own everything.

[2:13:59] And I don't have a problem

[2:14:00] with that as long as

[2:14:01] >> Right.

[2:14:02] >> That's how it always was. I

[2:14:06] mean, this the concept of this

[2:14:08] early termination period, The

[2:14:10] payment was really just

[2:14:11] to ensure use of the field

[2:14:13] for a certain amount

[2:14:14] of time and, you know,

[2:14:16] disincentivize.

[2:14:18] >> So you'll fix Exhibit A

[2:14:20] according

[2:14:21] to the 20-year decision

[2:14:22] by the board?

[2:14:24] >> Yeah, I'll do that

[2:14:25] at the end. That'll take me a

[2:14:26] few more minutes.

[2:14:28] But are we good to move on

[2:14:30] from here?

[2:14:31] >> Yep.

[2:14:37] >> Improvements, ADA, access

[2:14:38] for inspection. Any, any

[2:14:41] comments?

[2:14:43] >> Let me just quickly read the

[2:14:47] access for inspection. So what

[2:15:15] exactly are we indemnifying the

[2:15:16] village for in that paragraph?

[2:15:36] >> Basically, in the event

[2:15:38] hazardous substances are

[2:15:39] discovered I think it's

[2:15:47] basically implying that in the

[2:15:48] event you start digging up

[2:15:49] stuff and it's, you know,

[2:15:51] hazardous or something, that,

[2:15:52] you know, You're responsible

[2:15:54] for dealing

[2:15:56] with that hazard.

[2:15:58] >> So if hazard conditions

[2:15:59] currently exist at Founders

[2:16:00] Park, we're responsible

[2:16:02] for paying

[2:16:04] for any problems that arise

[2:16:05] from those hazardous conditions

[2:16:06] that are preexisting?

[2:16:09] >> Well, I mean,

[2:16:10] the way I read it is it's, it's

[2:16:11] saying basically if you

[2:16:13] discover it, you're not,

[2:16:14] you're not obligated

[2:16:16] to remove it, but whatever you

[2:16:18] did disturb or partially

[2:16:20] excavate, you got

[2:16:22] to deal with, right? And, you

[2:16:24] know, part of what was in here

[2:16:26] was a requirement that the

[2:16:29] school board does a Phase 1

[2:16:31] environmental study prior to

[2:16:32] commencing construction. I

[2:16:34] received direction

[2:16:35] to remove that. So, you know,

[2:16:37] that would

[2:16:38] >> So is nobody doing the

[2:16:40] environmental study?

[2:16:41] >> Not to my knowledge,

[2:16:43] no.

[2:16:45] >> Well, then we should be

[2:16:47] splitting the cost

[2:16:48] of any hazardous conditions at

[2:16:49] the very least.

[2:16:52] >> I think they own them,

[2:16:55] not us. They own them,

[2:16:56] not us.

[2:16:57] >> That's not what this says,

[2:16:59] though. This says the licensee.

[2:17:00] That's us.

[2:17:08] >> So it's indemnification.

[2:17:10] For all costs relating

[2:17:12] to inspections in connection

[2:17:14] with the property.

[2:17:16] >> Licensee hereby indemnifies

[2:17:17] and holds the licensor

[2:17:18] harmless. If licensee discovers

[2:17:21] hazardous substance as a result

[2:17:34] of inspection, blah, blah,

[2:17:38] blah, then the licensee shall

[2:17:43] also be responsible

[2:17:44] for the removal, remediation,

[2:17:45] disposal, et cetera,

[2:17:46] et cetera.

[2:17:51] >> Right.

[2:17:54] >> So, before they do

[2:17:55] construction,

[2:17:58] they're going

[2:17:59] to test the soil, right?

[2:18:00] >> No.

[2:18:01] >> No.

[2:18:02] >> That was a that was a

[2:18:03] provision. I thought there was

[2:18:05] an environmental study there

[2:18:06] was some sort of an

[2:18:08] environmental inspection that

[2:18:10] had to be done.

[2:18:13] >> That's correct. There was

[2:18:15] >> What does that do then?

[2:18:16] >> At the end

[2:18:18] of this sentence, it did say

[2:18:19] that, you know, licensee,

[2:18:20] the school board, will do a

[2:18:21] Phase 1 environmental study

[2:18:22] prior

[2:18:23] to commencing construction.

[2:18:24] >> Right.

[2:18:25] >> I received a request

[2:18:26] to delete that provision. If

[2:18:27] you guys want

[2:18:28] to add it back in, The village

[2:18:29] had requested that provision be

[2:18:30] included, so

[2:18:32] >> Well, I mean,

[2:18:34] if it should be inspected,

[2:18:35] and if there's something wrong,

[2:18:37] well, that can put the squash

[2:18:39] on the whole thing. I mean,

[2:18:40] if there's something wrong

[2:18:41] with the ground, I mean,

[2:18:44] nothing's going

[2:18:45] to happen afterwards. I mean,

[2:18:48] you know, I don't want

[2:18:49] to see us, you know, doing the

[2:18:51] job and then somebody comes

[2:18:53] along and checks the soil and

[2:18:55] says there's oil here or

[2:18:57] something. I mean, the my

[2:18:58] understanding, I thought the

[2:19:00] environmental study would check

[2:19:01] that because what else is there

[2:19:02] to check other than the ground?

[2:19:04] >> Right. I don't personally

[2:19:06] have any issue

[2:19:07] with it being included. The

[2:19:08] only thing I would check maybe

[2:19:10] is how that may affect the

[2:19:12] timing of things. Pat, if you

[2:19:14] want to speak to that

[2:19:15] at all.

[2:19:18] >> Well, we would get it done,

[2:19:19] you know, Fine. We'll just do

[2:19:20] it. I mean,

[2:19:21] do the environmental study. If

[2:19:23] there's something wrong,

[2:19:25] we're not going

[2:19:26] to do anything there.

[2:19:27] >> So we requested

[2:19:29] to have the Phase I removed.

[2:19:30] We typically only do Phase I

[2:19:31] any environmental site

[2:19:32] assessments at locations where

[2:19:34] we know we have contamination.

[2:19:36] We have no indication

[2:19:37] of any contamination at

[2:19:39] Founders Park. So we asked

[2:19:40] for it to be removed

[2:19:43] in the interest of time.

[2:19:46] >> So let's take

[2:19:47] out the power line.

[2:19:48] >> Indemnification paragraph,

[2:19:49] then. I agree.

[2:19:50] >> Yeah, then take it out. I

[2:19:51] mean, if you don't want

[2:19:52] to do it,

[2:19:53] then take it out.

[2:19:54] >> Yep.

[2:19:55] >> Take it out.

[2:19:56] >> Sounds good.

[2:20:27] >> All right.

[2:20:33] >> Notices of commencement,

[2:20:34] cost

[2:20:35] of design and construction,

[2:20:36] governmental approval,

[2:20:37] joiner.

[2:20:38] >> I'm all the way on insurance

[2:20:39] requirements

[2:20:41] for construction contracts.

[2:20:51] >> Anybody have anything for

[2:20:52] Section 5?

[2:20:53] >> Nope. Nope.

[2:20:55] >> I don't think anybody's

[2:20:56] going to have anything

[2:20:57] but me.

[2:21:13] >> Any comments for Section

[2:21:14] 6, Compliance with

[2:21:15] Governmental Procedures?

[2:21:16] >> No. I'm on

[2:21:18] >> Move on. Maintenance of

[2:21:20] Improvements, which is 8.

[2:21:23] >> Okay, it's up there.

[2:21:38] >> So here's my issue

[2:21:39] with maintenance

[2:21:40] of improvements. We're

[2:21:43] maintaining it even when it's

[2:21:44] in village control,

[2:21:47] so we're paying our people.

[2:21:52] How's that working?

[2:21:54] >> Yeah, so the school district

[2:21:55] maintains the field year-round.

[2:21:56] And for the, you know, period

[2:21:57] of time that the village has

[2:21:58] use of the field, they pay

[2:21:59] for the cost of that,

[2:22:00] the maintenance that occurs

[2:22:02] during that period

[2:22:03] of time.

[2:22:04] >> So they'll pay some fee

[2:22:05] to us

[2:22:06] for our maintenance people

[2:22:08] to take care of it?

[2:22:09] >> Correct.

[2:22:11] >> Okay, move on.

[2:22:19] >> And same thing, utilities,

[2:22:20] only for the period

[2:22:22] in which we're Yeah, I mean,

[2:22:23] it's mentioned in the

[2:22:25] maintenance and improvement

[2:22:29] section, but it, you know, says

[2:22:32] it includes utility consumption

[2:22:34] in that kind

[2:22:36] of same general category.

[2:22:38] >> Thank you.

[2:22:42] Going down to 11.

[2:22:51] >> All right,

[2:22:52] it's up there.

[2:23:05] >> So no matter when the damage

[2:23:07] occurs,

[2:23:08] it's our responsibility

[2:23:10] to fix it in these minor and

[2:23:12] major damage paragraphs?

[2:23:16] >> Right.

[2:23:18] The thought was

[2:23:19] to just keep it consistent with

[2:23:20] the maintenance where we would,

[2:23:21] you know, deal

[2:23:23] with restoring the property,

[2:23:24] removing debris,

[2:23:26] what have you. But the cost is

[2:23:27] just basically equally split

[2:23:28] for anything not covered

[2:23:29] by insurance because, you know,

[2:23:31] both the parties would have

[2:23:32] >> And which paragraph

[2:23:34] references that we're splitting

[2:23:40] that?

[2:23:41] >> The second sentence in 11.

[2:23:42] It says, licensor and licensee

[2:23:43] shall bear

[2:23:47] >> Equally bear the cost.

[2:23:48] >> Okay, sorry,

[2:23:49] I missed that. That's why I

[2:23:51] don't like doing it quickly.

[2:23:52] It's okay. All right,

[2:23:55] termination.

[2:24:15] >> Can you fix this? I'm not a

[2:24:16] lawyer. I am a doctor,

[2:24:17] by the way. Can you fix this?

[2:24:18] Can you fix this

[2:24:21] by just saying after the

[2:24:23] initial 20-year period,

[2:24:28] the agreement can be terminated

[2:24:32] by either party by either

[2:24:34] giving written notice.

[2:24:40] >> And it'll be five instead

[2:24:41] of three.

[2:24:42] >> Yeah. As in legally, does

[2:24:44] that work if we say you know

[2:24:45] following the initial

[2:24:46] twenty-year period termination

[2:24:47] could occur after that

[2:24:48] with five years notice?

[2:24:51] >> Five-year notice.

[2:24:54] >> Yeah, I certainly can craft

[2:24:56] some language to that effect. I

[2:24:57] so we're not going

[2:24:59] with ten years anymore, just

[2:25:00] to be clear.

[2:25:01] >> Just go with the initial.

[2:25:02] >> 20 is what we put

[2:25:04] at the top, so 20 is what we

[2:25:06] want a paragraph

[2:25:07] to be consistent.

[2:25:08] >> It's 20 in the top and 20

[2:25:09] down here.

[2:25:12] >> But the termination still

[2:25:13] allows them with notice

[2:25:14] >> 5 years.

[2:25:16] >> It's 5 years.

[2:25:17] >> So then we're not guaranteed

[2:25:18] the 10 after the term,

[2:25:19] after the first

[2:25:21] >> after the 20 years.

[2:25:22] >> Yeah, she said there's my

[2:25:23] point. After the initial,

[2:25:24] put that in

[2:25:25] after the initial. That's what

[2:25:28] you put that in this,

[2:25:29] in this paragraph

[2:25:31] after the initial term.

[2:25:32] >> So you're guaranteeing 20

[2:25:33] years.

[2:25:35] >> All right, will do.

[2:26:01] >> So you're saying we can't

[2:26:02] terminate people now? I didn't

[2:26:03] say that. I know, but for 5

[2:26:04] years.

[2:26:15] >> In termination, if we're

[2:26:16] going to give them 60 days, If

[2:26:17] we have 60 days

[2:26:19] for everything, we should have

[2:26:21] at least 60 days to remove our

[2:26:22] tangible property upon

[2:26:25] termination.

[2:26:36] >> Yes, putting in

[2:26:37] after the initial term.

[2:26:38] After the initial term?

[2:26:39] >> Of 20 years,

[2:26:41] 5-year notice.

[2:26:42] >> That's what we're putting

[2:26:44] in. Okay. Unless you want

[2:26:45] to do 10.

[2:26:48] >> No, I'm good with 1.

[2:26:50] >> And can you explain the

[2:26:52] counterparts,

[2:26:55] paragraph 14?

[2:27:02] >> Yeah, I mean, the way I

[2:27:11] understand is that you can sign

[2:27:12] essentially 2 different

[2:27:14] documents,

[2:27:17] and as long as they're the same

[2:27:18] document, everybody has

[2:27:19] >> Okay, that's what that

[2:27:20] means. Thank you.

[2:27:22] >> Is it upon or following or

[2:27:24] after? Is it is it

[2:27:30] >> I mean, upon Yeah,

[2:27:35] of the initial period. That's

[2:27:36] it.

[2:27:48] >> Okay, I'm done.

[2:27:59] >> You wanted this to be 5

[2:28:01] years as well, correct?

[2:28:05] >> Yeah.

[2:28:28] >> Thank God we're almost done.

[2:28:32] >> Sir?

[2:28:33] >> If I want to postpone the

[2:28:35] GMP until we come

[2:28:37] to the license agreement,

[2:28:38] does that happen

[2:28:40] before the GMP? If you have

[2:28:41] something to approve

[2:28:43] of the license agreement,

[2:28:45] then you read the item first.

[2:28:47] Right, but I know you can move

[2:28:48] on to approve it.

[2:28:53] >> Is everybody good

[2:28:54] with this section?

[2:28:56] >> Yep. Move on.

[2:29:09] >> All right. Dr. Walchanski,

[2:29:10] you have anything further?

[2:29:12] >> I would like

[2:29:13] to make a motion.

[2:29:14] >> Okay, make the motion.

[2:29:16] >> That we Amend the license

[2:29:21] agreement as

[2:29:24] >> How about this? Let me take

[2:29:25] a stab at it for you.

[2:29:27] >> Go ahead, Dirk.

[2:29:28] >> That you would make a motion

[2:29:30] to approve the edited version

[2:29:31] now just done

[2:29:32] on the record.

[2:29:35] >> Okay.

[2:29:36] >> As modified here

[2:29:37] on the screen live.

[2:29:38] >> All right.

[2:29:39] >> I'm going to make a motion

[2:29:40] that we approve the The edited

[2:29:45] version of the licensing

[2:29:46] agreement that we just agreed

[2:29:48] that we just discussed.

[2:29:50] >> Second.

[2:29:51] >> Yes, as portrayed by

[2:29:53] Hunter's document

[2:29:57] on the screen.

[2:29:59] >> Did you do the amortization

[2:30:02] schedule?

[2:30:04] >> Working on it now. It's

[2:30:05] going

[2:30:06] to take me a minute.

[2:30:07] >> Okay.

[2:30:08] >> 20 years.

[2:30:09] >> The motion is premature

[2:30:10] then.

[2:30:11] >> Okay. And how do we

[2:30:12] incorporate if they don't agree

[2:30:13] with this document

[2:30:15] to have that meeting?

[2:30:16] >> How does that get done?

[2:30:19] >> That's a separate thing.

[2:30:23] That's a cover letter. Okay.

[2:30:24] >> Yeah.

[2:30:26] >> So we don't have to agree on

[2:30:27] that here?

[2:30:28] >> I hear what you're saying.

[2:30:29] >> Okay.

[2:30:30] >> I think we'd agreed on that.

[2:30:31] >> I guess we'll see.

[2:30:32] >> It's gonna take him a while.

[2:30:43] >> Yep.

[2:30:44] >> And now you have to reread

[2:30:45] it as written to make sure

[2:30:46] that it's

[2:30:49] >> I mean, we're gonna be able

[2:30:51] to save it and distribute it.

[2:30:57] >> Okay. I'd say now is the

[2:30:58] time to go to the restroom.

[2:30:59] >> I was thinking about that

[2:31:01] too. I can't wait.

[2:31:16] >> Excuse me.

[2:31:17] >> It's so funny.

[2:31:18] >> I'm gonna run out of room

[2:31:31] on this piece of paper.

[2:31:32] >> Yeah, you are. Those are

[2:31:33] your important notes.

[2:31:35] >> I think I've got to go

[2:31:36] from circles to squares now.

[2:31:41] See, Louie, this is what you're

[2:31:42] gonna do, you know.

[2:39:40] >> Now that it's complete, I'd

[2:39:41] like

[2:39:42] to make the same motion.

[2:39:48] >> Yeah, I need a second.

[2:39:49] >> Second the motion as per the

[2:39:52] changes discussed

[2:39:53] by this board

[2:39:54] during discussion.

[2:39:56] >> And live edited.

[2:39:58] >> And live edited,

[2:40:00] assuming review

[2:40:01] at a later time.

[2:40:03] >> Roll call.

[2:40:05] >> [CALLING ROLL]

[2:40:15] >> Motion passes.

[2:40:18] >> I recommend the board

[2:40:19] approve Resolution 2026-002

[2:40:22] titled A resolution of the

[2:40:23] School Board of Monroe

[2:40:24] County, Florida, approving the

[2:40:26] guaranteed maximum price from

[2:40:27] Keystar Incorporated for

[2:40:29] Founders Park baseball

[2:40:30] improvements contingent upon

[2:40:32] village approval and providing

[2:40:33] for an effective date.

[2:40:36] >> So moved.

[2:40:40] >> I'll make a second,

[2:40:41] but I also want

[2:40:42] to have some discussion. Even

[2:40:43] though we know it's contingent,

[2:40:45] I think we should postpone this

[2:40:47] motion until the village

[2:40:48] Agrees

[2:40:49] on the license agreement,

[2:40:54] because we have a meeting 2

[2:40:55] days after that. It literally

[2:40:57] would take up no extra time.

[2:41:01] >> We have a meeting

[2:41:02] on the 11th of July?

[2:41:03] >> On the 9th.

[2:41:05] >> No, we don't.

[2:41:06] >> If you're seeking postpone,

[2:41:08] that's a higher order motion,

[2:41:09] so you have to dispose

[2:41:10] of that first.

[2:41:12] >> Okay, when's our next

[2:41:13] meeting? You'll need a second.

[2:41:15] July 21st. Any discussion

[2:41:17] on the motion

[2:41:21] to postpone?

[2:41:35] >> Call the roll.

[2:41:38] >> Ms. Talbott.

[2:41:41] >> Just the GMP.

[2:41:43] >> I understand.

[2:41:44] >> It's too late to go back

[2:41:45] to discussion?

[2:41:46] >> No, on the motion, you can

[2:41:48] discuss anything.

[2:41:49] >> I didn't know.

[2:41:50] >> She started to call the

[2:41:51] rules. I didn't know where we

[2:41:52] were in the process. Okay.

[2:41:53] >> No, I was asking for

[2:41:54] discussion. I understand.

[2:41:55] >> Okay. I just I guess I'm not

[2:41:56] aware

[2:41:57] of what the pro and con is

[2:41:59] to the postponement.

[2:42:00] >> For me, it would just be

[2:42:02] that it's possible that they're

[2:42:04] not going to agree

[2:42:06] to the license agreement,

[2:42:07] then we're going

[2:42:09] to have a meeting, and then

[2:42:10] maybe there's something else we

[2:42:12] need. And we've already voted

[2:42:13] on a GMP. Just the order of

[2:42:15] things makes me uncomfortable.

[2:42:17] The contingency makes me less

[2:42:18] uncomfortable, but I personally

[2:42:20] would rather vote for a GMP

[2:42:23] when I know that we have a

[2:42:24] license.

[2:42:27] >> But it's contingent upon

[2:42:28] their approval, correct?

[2:42:30] >> Yes.

[2:42:32] >> So there's no purpose I can

[2:42:34] see. I'm just speaking

[2:42:37] out loud, I guess,

[2:42:38] for my own vote

[2:42:40] in the postponement. So, okay.

[2:42:42] Thank you.

[2:42:47] >> Okay. Call the roll now.

[2:42:48] >> [CALLING ROLL]

[2:43:04] >> Okay, back

[2:43:06] to the original motion. We

[2:43:09] don't have to restate it,

[2:43:10] correct?

[2:43:12] >> No, sir, it's on the floor

[2:43:13] now that the higher-order

[2:43:14] motion has been disposed of.

[2:43:15] >> Okay, any discussion? Call

[2:43:19] the roll.

[2:43:20] >> [CALLING ROLL]

[2:43:30] >> Motion passes.

[2:43:34] >> I recommend the board

[2:43:35] approve Personnel

[2:43:36] Recommendations Addendum 2.

[2:43:37] >> So moved.

[2:43:38] >> Second.

[2:43:40] >> That was your right, Dr.

[2:43:43] Walchanski, you pulled this.

[2:43:46] >> No.

[2:43:47] >> Okay, any discussion? Any no

[2:43:49] votes? Hearing none, the

[2:43:59] personnel recommendations are

[2:44:00] approved.

[2:44:04] >> I recommend the board

[2:44:05] approve 2026-2027 contract

[2:44:06] renewal with Amendment 3 of 3

[2:44:08] with Amira Learning LLC.

[2:44:12] >> So moved.

[2:44:15] >> Second.

[2:44:18] >> The reason I wanted

[2:44:19] to bring this up is Amira is a

[2:44:22] someone can correct me if I'm

[2:44:26] wrong, but it is a science of

[2:44:27] reading program that the school

[2:44:29] has the district has found

[2:44:31] success in. I don't I'm going

[2:44:34] to vote for this, but Amira

[2:44:36] uses Yes. And the other one is

[2:44:39] AI chatbots that are cartoon

[2:44:47] avatars that speak

[2:44:49] to children. They don't write

[2:44:51] it. And there are many parents

[2:44:52] who are concerned

[2:44:54] about the use of that kind

[2:44:56] of chatbot. And as I discussed

[2:44:59] with Mr. Tierney,

[2:45:02] before the start

[2:45:03] of the school year, I'd

[2:45:06] like us to figure out a way to

[2:45:08] make people aware that there

[2:45:09] are these and to allow parents

[2:45:11] to opt out

[2:45:13] of the chatbot portion of the

[2:45:16] program if they choose to. So

[2:45:19] it's nothing that has

[2:45:20] to do here,

[2:45:22] but I think there's a lot

[2:45:23] of concerns right now

[2:45:24] about AI and screen time,

[2:45:26] especially

[2:45:27] with really young children,

[2:45:28] and we need to work on a

[2:45:29] program that will allow to,

[2:45:30] you know,

[2:45:31] get all the advantages

[2:45:34] of these programs without their

[2:45:36] parents being concerned that

[2:45:38] they're gonna have the negative

[2:45:40] effects of AI chatbots,

[2:45:42] which are kind of in the news

[2:45:43] now?

[2:45:44] >> I'll address that. So it's

[2:45:45] 3 of 3. We have been pleased

[2:45:46] with this program and seen

[2:45:47] documented success. It's an

[2:45:49] adaptive program. So adaptive

[2:45:50] tests, they become harder or

[2:45:53] easier based

[2:45:55] on the answer given. This is an

[2:45:56] adaptive program that changes

[2:45:57] based

[2:45:58] on what the students read

[2:45:59] to this AI bot. So it's a

[2:46:00] closed system. There's a lot

[2:46:01] of safeguards in place, but I

[2:46:04] do understand the concern and

[2:46:05] support parents' right to know

[2:46:06] about it. So there is a white

[2:46:08] paper that the company gave us

[2:46:09] that we can disseminate

[2:46:11] to parents. The this

[2:46:13] interactive portion is a

[2:46:15] critical part

[2:46:16] of this program, so we can't

[2:46:17] turn that portion off. But if a

[2:46:19] parent didn't want their child

[2:46:20] exposed to it,

[2:46:21] we would find another way

[2:46:22] to support the reading.

[2:46:23] >> Thank you very much.

[2:46:27] >> So if there's no further

[2:46:28] discussion,

[2:46:29] are there any no votes

[2:46:33] on this item? Hearing none,

[2:46:35] motion is approved.

[2:46:37] At this time, we,

[2:46:41] we can say the meeting's over.

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