[0:01] Meeting of the more part city council for Wednesday, December 20, 2006. Call the meeting to order at this time and ask John Brand, if he would lead us please in the Pledge of Allegiance. Please rise.

[0:14] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[0:30] Thank you, Mr. Brand, would the clerk call the roll, please.

[0:32] Council Member Micahs.

[0:34] Present.

[0:35] Council Member Milhoff.

[0:36] Present.

[0:36] Council Member Parvin.

[0:38] Present.

[0:38] Council Member Van Dam.

[0:39] Present.

[0:40] Mayor Hunter.

[0:41] Present.

[0:41] Item 4 on the agenda is proclamations and commendations.

[0:44] We have two, and I'll step down for those.

[1:01] Okay.

[1:02] Our first presentation this evening is a proclamation recognizing December 21, 2006 as National Homeless Persons Memorial Day.

[1:10] And with this this evening is Kate Mills from the Ventura County Health Care for the Homeless Program.

[1:15] Ms. Mills, if you join me, please.

[1:24] I'd like to read the proclamation if I can.

[1:26] This is a proclamation of the City Council

[1:28] of the City of More Park proclaiming December 21st, 2006,

[1:33] as National Homeless Persons Memorial Day,

[1:35] whereas the winter poses extreme hardship

[1:38] for inadequately housed low-income men, women, and children,

[1:42] and whereas the spirit of the holiday season of giving

[1:44] provides an opportunity for affirmation and renewal

[1:48] regarding the commitment to end homelessness,

[1:51] And whereas December 21st has been designated National Homeless Person's Memorial Day

[1:57] by the National Coalition for the Homeless and the National Health Center for the Homeless

[2:00] Council and is so recognized by City's nationwide.

[2:04] And whereas in the season of generosity and sharing, citizens of more Parker encouraged

[2:09] to commit themselves to promoting compassion and concern, especially for those who are

[2:15] poor and homeless.

[2:16] And whereas remembering those who have died on the streets, the cause of ending homelessness

[2:20] is kept urgent as the city's collective commitment to preventing such deaths in the future.

[2:26] Now, therefore, be it resolved that the City Council of the City of More Park does

[2:30] fare by proclaim December 21, 2006 as National Homeless Persons Memorial Day.

[2:37] Witness whereup, the City Council of the City of More Park does set its hand in class the

[2:40] seal of the City of More Park to be affixed on the 20th of December 2006.

[2:52] I'd like to thank you on behalf of the multiple public and private entities that have been providing homeless services throughout the years, and on behalf of the estimated 6,000 homeless throughout our county.

[3:08] who have actually experienced the loss of friends through homeless-related conditions.

[3:18] I'd like to congratulate your council on joining over 100 different cities throughout the nation

[3:27] and recognizing December 21st as National Homeless Persons Memorial Day.

[3:34] And I'd also like to invite all of our citizens to participate with us tomorrow, December 21st,

[3:43] which is the first day of winter and the longest night of the year, in recognizing those

[3:49] who have died of homeless-related conditions.

[3:53] And we'll do this with a very simple tribute to them by recognizing at 3 o'clock a moment

[4:00] of silence, actually 60 seconds of silence.

[4:04] We're also asking our faith communities to toll their bells

[4:08] during that same period of time.

[4:10] So it's 3 o'clock in the afternoon, 60 seconds of silence

[4:14] on behalf of those who have died of homeless related conditions.

[4:19] Thank you very much for your time.

[4:21] Thank you.

[4:30] Next, we'd like to take an opportunity

[4:32] to introduce one of our newest employees, Roger Blaze.

[4:36] Roger, if you'd join me, please.

[4:37] Mr.

[4:43] Roger Blays has been appointed to the position of Parks and Landscape Manager for

[4:46] the City of Moorpark.

[4:48] Roger received a Bachelor of Arts degree in public administration from the University of

[4:52] LeBern.

[4:53] He is a member of the California Urban Forest Council, a certified arborist, a licensed state

[4:59] to call off.

[5:00] California landscape contractor and a state of California pest control advisor. For the past four

[5:05] years, Roger worked as an assistant regional supervisor in the County of Los Angeles

[5:09] Parks Department. He's also worked as the manager of landscaping at Universal Studios in Hollywood,

[5:15] as well as Park Supervisor for the City of West Covenants. When he has the opportunity to do so,

[5:21] Roger enjoys fishing and working on home improvement projects. He's excited about the opportunity

[5:26] to return to local government and look forward to improving the quality of life in the city of Morpark.

[5:32] Would you please join me in welcoming Roger to his new position.

[5:41] Mr. CUNY, Honorable Mayor, members of the City Council, I'm very delighted to be a part of the Morpark family.

[5:49] My first three weeks here, I've been practically overwhelmed as a public servant with the generosity

[5:57] and what I've seen in terms of

[5:59] getting acclimated to the spirit of the

[6:02] more park community on behalf of staff.

[6:05] I'd like to share with you one of my

[6:07] personal map goals for the city,

[6:10] and that is to bring a renewed

[6:12] interest in sustainable forestry,

[6:15] stimulate community awareness with

[6:18] sustainable parks, and be a lead

[6:22] runner in being thin step with the

[6:24] vision of the City Council in promoting a new feeling of community and city

[6:33] escape in terms of what we offer. I'm very impressed with the appearance, the

[6:38] quality of our parks. The graffiti is almost not present coming from Los Angeles.

[6:46] I can really appreciate that. So I'm very happy to be part of this staff and look

[6:52] forward in making a contribution. Thank you very much.

[7:03] Next is the City Manager's monthly report, Mr. Cutie?

[7:05] Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor. This month, John Brand, senior management analyst, and our emergency management coordinator,

[7:13] will provide a briefing on the recent Shackle Fire incident.

[7:18] Thank you, Mayor and members of the council.

[7:21] If I can have the light stemmed and the projector turned on, please.

[7:24] I'd like to thank Sheriff Bob Ropes and the Venturi County Office of Emergency Services

[7:29] for the assistance in preparing this slide presentation.

[7:34] As you know, on December 3rd, about 2.30 in the morning, a fire broke out in your Shekland

[7:39] Broadway.

[7:41] That's just a few miles north and west of Mar Park.

[7:45] And immediately, resources were activated.

[7:48] about 6.30 in the morning, a second fire broke out just a few miles north east of

[7:56] Morpark, not creating two fires on the two northernly corners of the city. This expanded

[8:03] the area of concern and the command post at station 57 in Somers held its first briefing

[8:11] of the gathered agencies at about eight o'clock in the morning. One of the first things

[8:17] that was requested, the city of Moorpark was if the command post could be moved to a

[8:21] royalistic community park arrangements were made.

[8:25] By this time at 0730, Hugh Raleigh had activated the city emergency operations center.

[8:32] I was at the command post for the briefing and preparations were made to move the incident

[8:38] command post or ICP to a royalistic community park.

[8:42] These are some of the agencies that were involved under the law branch of the response at the Incident Command Post,

[8:52] as you can see that involved several supporting agencies as well as the Sheriff's Department.

[8:59] The Emergency Operations Center, the EOC, was activated in Moorpark at 720 in the morning,

[9:06] and the county EOC was co-located in the City EOC in Moorpark.

[9:10] This arrangement did greatly enhance response and communications between the field incident command post, the city and the county players.

[9:21] This incidentally is the first time in Richard County history that the county OES has located their emergency operation center in a city, UMC.

[9:34] Evacuations were immediately called for the conditions on that morning for extremely hazardous.

[9:41] There were winds averaging 30-40 miles an hour with up to 70 miles per hour gusts and extremely low humidity in the single digits, 3-7% humidity.

[10:00] The west of more park and the whole maker's area. The evacuations were precautionary, which is a recommendation that you evacuate, if you can, or you immediately prepare to evacuate very soon, and also recommended evacuations. And a recommended evacuation is perhaps more serious than people might initially think. That is the last warning that is going to be provided by public service agencies. And the recommendation is that you leave and you leave now. And those issues were ordered.

[10:29] and various areas affecting about 250 homes in more park.

[10:35] There were shelters set up by the Red Cross or Royal High School in Seamy Valley,

[10:39] where 12 people remained overnight,

[10:41] and 1,000 folks at the community center were 7 people remained overnight.

[10:45] We also, through county animal regulation,

[10:48] were able to evacuate several large animals to the Ventura County Fairgrounds

[10:53] and other locations.

[10:54] We evacuated 55 horses, one donkey, pigs, water buffalo, camels, and a 600 pound tortoise as well as a miniature horse.

[11:07] Some of the sheriff personnel involved include 14 of the tactical response team deputies,

[11:12] the patrol deputies, and 22 search and rescue volunteers, SAR, and two SAR sworn deputies.

[11:19] Also free public information officers and two Office of Emergency Services

[11:25] representatives from the Sheriff's Office of Emergency Services.

[11:29] This gives you an idea of the fire personnel involved.

[11:32] There were 235 engines, 41 crews, 14 bulldozers, 18 water tenders,

[11:38] over 1,700 fire staff from dozens and dozens of agencies throughout California,

[11:44] 10 helicopters and 8 air tankers involved in response.

[11:49] Sheriff, air rescue resources were used to do air drops of water on Sunday and they were on standby on Monday.

[11:58] And the ongoing activities, the city emergency declaration, emergency declaration made Monday morning and then a firm by council at its next meeting on December 6th.

[12:08] And the state governor signed an emergency proclamation early Monday.

[12:13] And I'd also like to point out that the State Office of Emergency Representative from

[12:18] the Governor's Office also located with us in the Morpark, EOC, worked up very well.

[12:24] Fire and damage assessment teams continue to identify victims' incident costs and damages.

[12:31] Here's just a graphical representation of the Burden area.

[12:37] And it's pointing to the two locations where the fire is starting.

[12:41] The left arrow is pointing to the Shekho road area and then upper happy camp with a second

[12:48] fire erupted a couple hours later.

[12:51] Here are some images from the fire that were taken by the press and local residents.

[12:55] This is a Sherosho helicopter doing a water draw.

[12:59] Here is a view from outer space from courtesy of NASA who has, it's not visible there, it's

[13:07] notice rapid response team and when an incident occurs,

[13:11] they're able to direct a satellite on his next pass

[13:14] to do the photograph.

[13:15] This was taken about 12, 25 PM shortly afternoon

[13:20] and it shows the plume coming from the,

[13:22] the Sheffield fire out over the Pacific Ocean.

[13:27] This is the, the fire, this is the 8th city area fully engaged.

[13:32] There's some of those flames are over 30 feet high.

[13:36] This is taking a more parking, roughly the Cambridge campus park area looking, I believe

[13:42] up towards Happy Camp and the Rustic Canyon golf course area.

[13:48] That same general vicinity and again the flames and residents are apparently evacuated.

[13:54] These are crews from a local fire station of 42 working the fire in the one-way canyon

[14:01] area I believe.

[14:04] These are some residents who are on a rooftop observing the fire, and I included this slide

[14:09] for two reasons.

[14:10] I want to show you, give you an idea of just how strong the winds were, and also to

[14:14] remind everyone that climbing up on the roof to observe the fire is not a good idea.

[14:21] Here is a fixed-wing air tanker doing a drop of the fire retardant.

[14:27] This is back over by the college, and this is a more-proc residents engaged in fully

[14:34] engulfed in flames. And there is a firefighter. You can see a silhouette there in the foreground.

[14:42] Here again, you see a firefighter in the foreground. A member of a hand crew, he's working the

[14:48] the fire. Can't quite tell whether he is using a hand tool, he might be setting a backfire at this point.

[14:55] But again, you can see just how dangerous it is for the firefighters when they're out there working

[15:00] Thank you for being with these conditions. Here's an aerial view taking that shows some of the agricultural damage that was done by the fire. They're that band of light colored trees, of course, have been scorched. And then you can see some some burned ones in the middle. And also indicates how valuable the fire department resources were applied to protect residents and agricultural resources.

[15:29] in the county.

[15:32] Again, it's inspired. This is very close to home as you can see in the lower left

[15:36] the fence, the backyard, and this is a green bell barrier burning near just below the rustic canning

[15:44] country club. This is a train operating on schedule. By Monday morning, while we were still putting out

[15:53] hot spots, local services continued as normal. The trains operated on the normal schedule as they

[16:00] of course, the city buses, and the Metrolin trains operated with only 10-minute delays.

[16:05] Although just a few hours earlier, Sunday evening, some of the railroad ties along these

[16:12] tracks near Point Dexter were actually ablaze, as late as 8 o'clock in the evening, but

[16:17] Metrolin got crews out there that worked through the night in order to keep the trains operating.

[16:24] And that concludes the presentation.

[16:25] If you have any questions, Deputy Chief Scott Hall from the Major Accounting Fire Department

[16:31] is here, as well as Captain Manson and myself.

[16:33] Thank you very much.

[16:35] We are, unfortunately, getting very good at managing these kinds of emergencies, unfortunately,

[16:40] but thank you for all of your work.

[16:43] There were, and are probably too many agencies to try and thank at this point, the hundreds

[16:48] of volunteers.

[16:49] I know that there were restaurants, Starbucks, wood ranch, a host of others to send food

[16:53] to be emergency operation center and just a support by the volunteer throughout the community

[16:59] is very overwhelming in a crisis like this.

[17:04] Coincidentally, the city has received two awards for its work in emergency management.

[17:08] If you could summarize those, John, I think that would be very helpful for the council as

[17:12] well.

[17:12] Yes, thank you.

[17:14] A local emergency services organization, the business and industry council for emergency

[17:20] emergency preparedness and planning was recently honored the City of More Park's Emergency

[17:26] Operations Center and gave it a word of recognition for the co-location of the Emergency Operations

[17:33] Center with the More Park Police, the Venture County Sheriff's, and the California Highway

[17:38] Patrol in the first instance of co-location of these public service agencies and emergency

[17:44] to response facilities in California.

[17:47] And secondly, the city's special need

[17:50] for registry for emergency evacuation assistance.

[17:52] We received a special award from BICEP,

[17:56] the acronym for the Business and Industry Council.

[18:01] Special need for registry is for persons

[18:03] who may need evacuation assistance

[18:05] in situations such as these fires.

[18:08] And the list was very helpful in checking

[18:11] the affected streets and the persons

[18:13] questions who are in the registry.

[18:15] Thank you very much.

[18:16] You had a question, staff, Dr. Michaels?

[18:18] Yeah, John, do you think that you could tell the people at home if they might need special

[18:23] evaluation and have not yet signed on to the special registry, who they should call to

[18:29] get signed on so that we would know about them if we had a future emergency?

[18:34] Yes, thank you.

[18:35] It's easy to register for the special needs registry.

[18:38] You can just call City Hall at 517-6248 and I'll answer the phone or leave me a voice

[18:46] mail and we'll get you signed up to sleep your name and address our email and I'll send

[18:52] you the application.

[18:53] It's a very simple one-page form that needs to be filled out so we can enter the information

[18:58] or the database.

[18:59] All right.

[18:59] It's strictly voluntary but it's a nice safety valve for people that might be in danger

[19:06] and might not be able to get out themselves

[19:07] if they do have special needs.

[19:10] Good job, John.

[19:11] Thank you, John.

[19:12] Thank you to staff as well

[19:13] who made the Emergency Operations Center

[19:15] over the weekend appreciate their help as well.

[19:17] We have the questions at this point.

[19:19] Mayor Hunter.

[19:20] This is Carmen.

[19:20] A question with regard to, I'm wondering if there are

[19:24] any reports of what to call lucky lures

[19:27] because in our neighborhood, and I'm sure Rosanne

[19:30] probably had it too, a lot of people from out of town

[19:33] wanted to see the fires real close

[19:35] So they were filling our neighborhoods up with cars, people making it was really exciting

[19:40] and fun and a lot of laughter.

[19:42] And I'm wondering if there is anybody, any reports of those types of people getting in

[19:46] the way of the firefighters?

[19:47] Yes, I believe Captain Madison can explain our response.

[19:51] Oftentimes during disasters we have to deal with the looky-loos who want to see what's going on,

[19:57] and particularly when the...

[20:00] There's an air drop campaign in fires. We have a lot of people who often get in the way of emergency response vehicles. And we have to move them out of the area. It's, I know about a year ago in the old park. We have that same problem with the fire. And we actually had to probably chase away about 100 people from the area just so we could get the emergency vehicles and the fire trucks and the hand crews out there.

[20:28] So they often slow down our response

[20:32] Anything else at this point. Thank you John very much job well done

[20:37] Item five is public comment for the council

[20:41] Item six is the reordering of an additions to the agenda

[20:47] Mr. Mayor, I would like to micos. I'd like to pull items 10 D and 10 J from the consent calendar when we get there

[20:55] D and J

[20:56] There

[21:02] we go.

[21:05] Item 7 is announcements and future agenda items.

[21:09] Any comments from staff at this point? No, Mr. Mayor.

[21:12] We have no public hearings. Item 9 is presentation action discussion items.

[21:16] The first is item 9a. Consider presentations from candidates for the Arts Commission, Parks

[21:21] and Recreation Commission and the Planning Commission. This is trap instead. Good evening.

[21:26] Mayor Hunter and the City Council members in response to the City Council's request. We have

[21:31] invited the candidates for Arts Commission, Parks and Recreation Commission, and Planning Commission

[21:37] here this evening. Those of who could make it. And we have the names available. I guess

[21:45] we will be calling them one by one, Mayor Hunter. That's a three minutes is what we've informed

[21:54] from them by letter was available and I guess we're ready to go.

[21:58] This is a new process I think that was proposed by Mr. Millhouse to give the entire council

[22:05] the opportunity to hear from the candidates.

[22:09] Oftentimes we don't have time to individually interview candidates.

[22:14] So Mr. Millhouse has proposed that we hear from the candidates collectively and they have,

[22:19] as Mr. Straffin said, been invited to come down and speak to their qualifications.

[22:23] of the position they seek.

[22:25] We have a number as you might imagine.

[22:28] Some candidates have indicated that they could not be present

[22:31] tonight, and that will not affect their participation

[22:35] in the process.

[22:37] Nonetheless, there are a number of candidates tonight.

[22:40] As Mrs. Traffinst said, we are going

[22:43] to ask the candidates to keep their remarks

[22:45] to the three-minute time limit because of the number

[22:50] of candidates involved.

[22:51] So, we will have a timer, please don't place this in the position of having to rush you out, but we would like to keep you to the greatest extent possible to the three minute time time frame.

[23:03] Any from the council before we proceed?

[23:06] Okay, Dr. Michaels?

[23:08] For those who couldn't come, they could still come on the 17th or whatever and do the same thing, right?

[23:14] Yes, and so and staff we're going to be letting them know that or what how will we we'd like clarification

[23:21] I think at the last meeting the intent was the appointment would be considered on the

[23:27] 17th so it'd be our understanding that if they felt the need to address the council they would need to do that under public comment. Yes

[23:36] Okay, well, I mean that yeah, I'm just thinking that it should give them at least another opportunity

[23:40] For the night that we would do the appointments. Yes

[23:43] Mr. Mayor, since you've put this all on me, for better or worse, first of all, I wanted

[23:52] to thank all the applicants who were able to attend tonight.

[23:56] As a Mayor indicated, one of the frustrations is that we don't all get a chance to meet when

[24:00] you would be very logistically difficult and for our current commissioners, it's nice

[24:08] to have you included in the process.

[24:09] We're all familiar with you.

[24:10] We're all familiar with the fine work and the things that you've done.

[24:13] I think this is something that we're going to try and see if it works, you know, great

[24:18] if it needs refinement, so be that as well.

[24:20] But there's a lot of talented individuals in the community who don't get a chance to meet

[24:24] everybody.

[24:24] So for more, I think for us to get a chance to know the new people since we need some of

[24:29] the old people in action and give you a chance to tell us about yourself.

[24:32] So thank you.

[24:34] More experienced people in that.

[24:41] It's my understanding we were going to begin with the arts commission applicants and we're going an alphabetical order and the first is Gene Amador.

[24:57] Good evening. Welcome. Nice to have you.

[25:00] Thank you. My name is Jean Amitor and I used to be whittles, so I was in the back of the room now I get to the front. I'm an architect by profession and I've worked. Doing my architecture for municipal projects and bringing also commercial and city projects before meeting council meetings and commissions. Even the Los Angeles Arts Commission, I've even been before them presenting architectural projects to go through.

[25:30] My new endeavor is opening an art gallery here in more parking the last three months and that has been an amazing experience.

[25:38] I don't know if everybody knows how many artists you have in this community.

[25:41] They just keep coming every day. I need a new artist and we've got that exhibit.

[25:46] This is my flood line up all next year so you can come by and see me over there.

[25:56] The thing about doing art is I've been having that in my life since the very beginning,

[26:01] winning my first award in junior high at the library and moving on there and becoming

[26:05] an architect and to really take advantage of that and then continue with my art classes

[26:12] always taking some kind of an art form to keep, not because I have to, but because I just

[26:19] love to do it. And I think I have the ability to both be making decisions whether something

[26:28] appeals to myself as well as how does it fit within the larger context because of my practice

[26:34] that I've had and the diversity of type of work that I do. A couple of years ago I was

[26:41] asked to design an art gallery for the community colleges. Sadly it was finished and they didn't

[26:46] actually build it because they ran out of funding for that type of project and switched it to something else, probably administration building or such.

[26:53] But that sparked that working with the artist was such an joy for me.

[26:59] So I enjoyed doing that.

[27:01] And that's pretty much what I'm doing now and thought I'd step it up a little and work with the city.

[27:07] And I've met most of you already and come to be with you and see the city that I'm working in every day from day

[27:15] break until the end. How it's coming along. That's it.

[27:22] You work with the community colleges, was that in Ventura County?

[27:25] I haven't done work in Ventura County, I'm on the approved list too, but I'm mostly

[27:30] in LA County. And the type of work I do there at the colleges, I do work at CLU, finished

[27:38] our last residence hall, and working on projects that are renovating different buildings

[27:43] throughout the campus and a lot of schools and worked a lot for the City of

[27:48] Thousand Oaks, part of the previous mayor. Very good. Thank you very much. Thank

[27:54] you for being here. Thank you. Now you got to go out of the way now. You can sit

[27:57] back and relax. Clint Harper. I think the council is relatively familiar with

[28:03] Dr. Harper, although I don't think he could be here this evening. Ralph Morello I

[28:08] think has indicated that he had a commitment and could not be with us.

[28:13] We also got a letter from her saying that she was sorry she had another commitment.

[28:20] Christiane Rahal,

[28:23] Dennis Swinburne, and Derby Shields.

[28:31] For the Parks and Recreation Commission, I know Joe Katrinbon is here.

[28:35] Mr. Katrinbon, good evening.

[28:38] make

[28:47] a request to the City Council that I be reappointed through the Parks and

[28:53] Recreation Commission. We over the past couple of years that I've been on to

[28:58] commission. We've done some significant improvements to the parks and

[29:02] Rilla Camposina. We put a basketball court in there. We've upgraded the soccer

[29:08] field, put in new tables and benches, trash cans, and I forgot to marry that thing that

[29:19] hangs and he ate it with the baseball bag.

[29:21] For the autumn?

[29:22] Yes.

[29:24] For parks.

[29:26] There's a lot to be done yet.

[29:29] We have the expansion of Point Extra Park.

[29:32] We have some ideas on what we want to do there.

[29:35] We have the new park on Charles Street that behind the fire station, it will be a brand new park for the downtown area.

[29:44] And we have some ideas what we want to do there.

[29:47] And new equipment for a lot of the other parks that have in the past couple of years, the equipment is somewhat deteriorated and it requires new equipment.

[29:57] a royal vista.

[30:00] Tom Flummer's favorite project, possibly a community pool. And also, we have a great interest in a skate park.

[30:11] We were going to do it or we're thought about doing it a poindex to park, but we had a little resistance from the neighbors. So we're looking at the back end of a row of this to do that. Like I say, there's a lot to do. And I'd like to be considered as one of the individuals.

[30:29] to take care of these projects.

[30:31] Thank you.

[30:32] Thank you.

[30:35] Scott, is it Kudelink?

[30:38] Good evening, sir.

[30:44] And you're also an applicant for the Planning Commission, is that correct?

[30:47] That's right.

[30:48] Okay.

[30:49] Hope I don't appear greedy.

[30:50] Not at all.

[30:51] I'll call you back for that.

[30:52] When we go through the Planning Commission, applicants as well.

[30:54] Good evening.

[30:55] Good evening.

[30:56] I am a resident of Moore Park.

[30:58] I have been for about five years.

[31:00] I moved out here when I retired.

[31:02] I lived in Pacific Palisades, most of my life.

[31:06] I move out to this area to be close to my six grandchildren.

[31:11] As my application indicates, I've been an executive and a participant and a director of several

[31:18] major corporations in the U.S. and in Los Angeles.

[31:24] As to community service, I have done some work for the United Way in Los Angeles County.

[31:29] I headed up their audit committee for several years as to activity that might be pertinent

[31:35] to parks.

[31:37] I've been very active in the Cannehal Valley Botanic Garden down in Thousand Oaks since

[31:43] I moved out here.

[31:44] My wife is a board member and I've tried to give them some assistance in improving the

[31:50] 33 acres that they have, giving them some more financial stability, getting donations,

[31:57] approving the irrigation and the maintenance of the property but working closely with the City of Thousand Oaks and their parks department.

[32:08] So that's why I was interested in perhaps providing some community service to the parks commission in this city.

[32:16] Beyond that, I grew up on the Mexican border, so I do speak mextex. I don't know if that would be analogous to the position or not.

[32:26] And as my application indicates, I have been a partner in an international CPA firm

[32:34] in the past also.

[32:36] Questions?

[32:39] Thank you for being here.

[32:40] Thank you.

[32:49] Brad Lawson,

[32:56] Dr. V. Schmolley,

[33:00] Richard Stratton,

[33:03] Sandra Thompson,

[33:13] good evening.

[33:14] Good evening.

[33:15] I want to thank you for having me here tonight, giving me the opportunity to speak with you.

[33:19] The reason I'm here, I've been on our commission for over 15 years, that's as much as I will

[33:26] fuss up to, but it grew out of a passion for the city.

[33:29] We moved here the last day of 1982, so that we can claim 1982, but since 1983, we became

[33:37] varied with four children, I became very involved in youth sports, and that is where I got my

[33:43] The seat of community service and volunteering was through more park away, so the SICO Striders group and found what a wonderful organization it was to provide for our kids.

[33:58] That got me involved with our parks and what a journey it's been since I've been on our commission.

[34:07] I'm the one you were talking about, Mr. Hunter, about being old commissioner.

[34:15] When I first joined the commission, we had five city parks, so the name more park

[34:20] didn't quite apply to our city.

[34:23] I'm proud now that we're 15 parks strong with two on the way, and I'm very excited about.

[34:29] And so my passion still burns strongly.

[34:35] Not only have our parks grown, also our community program, the programming within the Recreation

[34:41] Department has grown quite a bit to where we offer so many different program classes that

[34:46] people can take.

[34:48] Our city events, our people come from miles away to attend our 3rd of July as we're the

[34:58] Nations independent.

[35:01] I'm very proud to be associated with the work that the commission has done in hand with city council and staff.

[35:11] Part of the wonderful thing of being on the commission is the self-growth that it's enabled me to have. The city has sent us on many, many training conferences that I've probably attended and it's kept us on the cutting edge of providing our community with many innovative programs.

[35:31] programs like More Park After Dark and our teen program, I think it's top notch.

[35:39] I think we're very tuned into meeting the needs of our community and I think that's

[35:44] what's nice about More Park, although we have grown so much since I've moved here, we're

[35:50] still small town enough to where I can discuss parts with people in the grocery store.

[35:56] We're all with our city TV channel, we're all very approachable and I think that's great.

[36:02] I've had the opportunity to serve on a statewide level on the California, we call it Kabarq.

[36:09] I'm California Association of Park and Recreation Commissioners and Board Members, as a board member.

[36:17] And I hope you'll consider me.

[36:21] We'll wind that up.

[36:22] Any questions?

[36:23] Thank you.

[36:25] Thanks.

[36:25] And

[36:28] Julie Weissberger could not be with us this evening, Tom Flommer, I know it's here, Mr. Flommer, good

[36:44] evening.

[36:44] Good evening.

[36:45] First of all, I'd like to thank you all for Mayor Hunter, council members, and the city staff with this opportunity to reply for the parking rights.

[36:53] First of all, I want to tell you I've been on board park residents since 1986, and I've been on a registered voter since I was 21.

[37:00] So you get that under the belt here.

[37:03] Let's see, my qualifications, I was a certified lifeguard when I was young, I trained children

[37:10] with WSI, water safety instruction, college degree, I'm a licensed real estate broker focusing

[37:20] in more mortgages and a notary.

[37:23] Now I have been appointed for the parking lot for three previous terms, which equals

[37:28] last six years. And I really enjoyed my job, but my goal here, my interest for being

[37:35] reappointed, dates back to the early days when I was a coach for the more part girl's

[37:39] softball. I started off as coaching with my youngest daughter. And went to my youngest

[37:45] annals as daughter and came on the board and went to AYSO and I was a referee and a coach

[37:51] and club soccer and I was involved with that. I was interacted with all the youth sports

[37:55] for many years. And instrumental in working with the city at one time putting in a softball field

[38:00] that we donated for the city. So my roots go way back. But one goal that when I was approached

[38:09] and I wanted to become a parking rick's commissioner was to have a community pool in the city of Moorpark

[38:15] as you all know. I've heard many times. Well my goal hasn't been fulfilled yet so I decided to reapply

[38:24] for parking rx and keep pushing and and swaying opinions and see if we can do it in the next few years

[38:31] and by the way after six years I have more or less think that I'm out trained by now so I'd like

[38:36] to keep the position. Oh that's about it. Are there any questions? Questions with Mr. Flower?

[38:43] Thank you. Thank you sir.

[38:47] Okay that is the list of

[38:50] of Parks and Recreation Commission Applicants

[38:55] and moving on to the Planning Commission.

[38:58] I know Jay Bauer could not be with us

[38:59] as evening the council has received something

[39:01] on behalf of Mr. Bauer.

[39:03] Mark Chekko, I know is here.

[39:05] Mr. Chekko.

[39:17] Really?

[39:17] Thank you very much for this opportunity once again.

[39:23] I'm gonna be real brief and rather than talking about

[39:26] what has happened in Moore Park,

[39:28] I'm gonna talk about a little bit about what I've done

[39:29] and outside of Moore Park, which is really a stretch

[39:32] for an architect talking about himself, you know.

[39:35] For those who don't know me, I've lived here since 1991.

[39:40] I've been a business owner in Moore Park since 1996.

[39:44] I've been in the design and construction industry

[39:46] for 30 years.

[39:47] Yes, I am one of those old people.

[39:50] License architect in three states,

[39:52] currently candidate for licensure in two additional ones.

[39:56] Again, I've had my own architectural practice since 1988.

[40:00] Again, located more park for the last 10 years. Currently, our office works a lot on urban planning projects, which I believe fits in kind of with what we're doing. We do anything from small infill projects and big cities development to larger new communities in other states, not in more park. We've been through the process. We've taken projects through the entitlement, entitlement process and other communities all the way throughout the state of California. I'm currently the town planner for River Park.

[40:29] And Oxnard, which is pretty much the largest smart growth project in Ventura County currently

[40:36] or anytime in the future as far as we know, I sit in the Development Advisory Committee

[40:41] for the City of Oxnard, so I understand how to read plans at this point, I think, which

[40:49] also gives us some experience with developers, with homeowners, and with policymakers and how

[40:54] they all try to intertwine between the two.

[40:56] For those who don't know, have a Bachelor of Architecture degree which included a year of

[41:01] study in Copenhagen, Denmark.

[41:04] Every two years I go to Harvard to study smart growth, traditional neighborhood design,

[41:09] community planning, housing design.

[41:12] I'm usually attend all the regional conferences, the local conferences on growth, on transportation,

[41:19] affordable housing.

[41:20] I've attended pretty much all of the planning commissioners' conferences for the last eight years.

[41:28] As far as community service, we do pro bono projects pretty much all year long, and pretty

[41:35] much we focus on venture accounting, we've done habitat for humanity projects, homemade projects,

[41:40] boys and girls' club. We're currently redesigning pro bono, the seven-street facility in Oxnard.

[41:49] I've been had the distinct pleasure of being a planning commissioner since February 4,

[41:55] 1998, with some of you as well, with some of you.

[41:59] Why I want to be a commissioner again, and I know I'm running out of time, a desire to

[42:03] help the city achieve its goals as it matures, a desire to maintain the quality of life while

[42:08] still providing a place for our kids to actually grow up and live here, and we want to give

[42:13] something back to the community that allowed me to raise my kids. And frankly, it's the right thing to do.

[42:20] And again, it's been an honor to serve the city of Moorpark. It's been an honor to work with the existing commissioners.

[42:26] And I would ask that you seriously consider reappointing them. Thank you very much.

[42:32] Thank you. Any questions? Thank you, sir. Thank you.

[42:37] To reach the Hegman Lawson,

[42:43] good evening.

[42:50] One of the contenders told me there's a height restriction for this position.

[42:53] Oh, no.

[42:54] I'm always out of the running.

[42:57] Thank you, Mayor Hunter, council members, and city staff for this opportunity.

[43:03] I'd like to present to myself in hopes that some of my professional career aligns

[43:08] with the Planning Commission has in mind.

[43:10] I had a 23-year history, professional career history, and mortgage banking, but not in the

[43:16] loan side.

[43:18] Mine was in working with city officials.

[43:21] My first five years were internal audit.

[43:23] I audited 24 departments in the bank for the bank in New York, worked in with the bank

[43:27] here for 10 years.

[43:29] For 12 of my first years in banking, I was a compliance officer.

[43:33] During that time, I went to law school and got a law degree, and specialized in consumer

[43:37] for lending law and real estate law.

[43:40] From that point on, I went into construction lending, rehabilitation lending, infill, block

[43:47] rehabilitation in around the country.

[43:51] Most recently I was responsible for about $2.6 billion of construction projects and this

[43:56] was at one time in 34 states.

[44:00] So I'm fairly well versed in the construction project, plans and specs, the relationship

[44:07] management that's involved in the complex process involved and getting construction going

[44:13] and some stage are dealing with the Department of Energy, the Department of Insurance, I have

[44:20] so much respect for the process and what's involved many years involved with it.

[44:27] The reason that I like to be involved in this particular commission is because I think

[44:31] I think that there's some synergy between my career and the relationships I have and how I can dovetail into our city, and I'm a long standing member, and I love more part.

[44:42] I think you probably know more about me than other commissioners just recently ran you for council. Congratulations Mark.

[44:50] And so I don't know that I have much more to offer than that.

[44:53] Are there any questions? Thank you for being here.

[44:57] Thank you.

[45:00] Bruce, is it Hamas? Good evening, sir.

[45:09] Welcome. Thank you very much. I'd like to thank the mayor and the city council for allowing me to opportunity to present myself for a position on the planning commission. I'm married and we have one son who's currently in the 7th grade in Miss Liberty. We've lived in more parks since 1992 and just to give you a little background of myself. I hold a bachelor of science degree in business and finance from the universe.

[45:35] University of Houston with a major in real estate and a minor in accounting.

[45:40] The license real estate broker in the state of California, and I hold a professional national designation.

[45:46] They certified commercial investment member or CCIM designation, which is a legally recognized expert in real estate.

[45:55] Some of my work background includes as a commercial appraisal for a couple of years in Houston.

[46:01] I also work with a developer corporation in Houston where we built condos and industrial

[46:07] buildings in various states.

[46:10] I moved to California in 1986, and again, I was in a real estate freezer in Newport Beach

[46:17] for a couple of years.

[46:19] Then I joined a development company in West Los Angeles where we developed apartments, condos,

[46:27] retail, raw land.

[46:28] And in 1989, my wife and I started a company called Hamis Investments, and we still own

[46:38] and operate three locations in Southern California.

[46:41] My wife is the main runner of that company right now.

[46:46] And since 2002, I have practiced commercial real estate brokers with a company in West Lake

[46:53] Village, West Court commercial.

[46:55] My area of specialization is in a Goura Thousand Oaks in West Lake Village, where I negotiate

[47:00] leases of office and retail and I represent clients for the purchase and sale of real property.

[47:09] With 25 years of real estate experience, I'd like to be seriously considered for a position

[47:15] as a planning commissioner.

[47:17] I've lived here in Moore Park for the last 14 years or so and I've seen a lot of changes.

[47:22] is more park is going to continue to grow and I'd like to contribute some of my time

[47:26] and energy to its growth.

[47:29] There are many issues that are going to be facing the near future, imminent domain,

[47:33] redevelopment areas, infield development projects, new home development, affordable housing,

[47:40] office retail, industrial development, all very important.

[47:44] And I'd like to contribute some of my time toward that.

[47:48] Thank you very much.

[47:49] Thank you for being here.

[47:50] Thank you for your patience.

[47:54] Scott Kruele.

[48:06] Evening again.

[48:07] I applied to the Planning Commission because I have extensive background in construction auditing.

[48:14] I have audited all over the United States on construction projects as well as internationally.

[48:20] I think every continent except Antarctica.

[48:24] So I am rather familiar with construction expenses, zoning laws,

[48:31] things of that nature. I've even gone to courts with clients where they had problems.

[48:36] I've also coincidentally dealt with some of the contractors who have the major projects

[48:42] for home development in this area. Party construction is an old client of mine, so I'm rather familiar

[48:49] with that firm. It is interesting in talking to some of the major developers in this area,

[48:55] They tell me that the building codes in Moore Park are some of the most stringent that they've encountered, which please this mean no end.

[49:05] Grace don't even tell me that they don't choose to continue construction in this city because they feel the building codes are too stringent.

[49:15] That, I think, is a positive factor because I've seen some very shotty construction in

[49:23] the United States and all over the world.

[49:26] Since I have a couple of seconds, just a light aside, as I said, I've done construction

[49:33] auditing internationally, even in the old Belgian Congo, and one of the things I had to do there

[49:39] was talk to the witch doctors about the concerns they had for a major copper development

[49:44] that was going on. I had to take security guards with me to talk to them because they had

[49:50] some guerrilla activity in the area recently and I was considered a white devil. So it was

[49:59] is rather an ...

[50:00] Interesting experience. I've also owned a construction company. I've done real estate appraisal, so I'm rather familiar with the subject. Questions?

[50:12] I have a question. Since you applied for both positions, which one would be your preference? You know, it doesn't make any difference to me. I'm just looking to provide some community service. I honestly don't have any preference. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[50:31] Kip Landis.

[50:41] Good evening.

[50:41] Members of the City Council staff, those are the audience public.

[50:45] I'm Kip Landis.

[50:46] I, most of you should know me.

[50:48] I guess I've been on the planning commission now for eight years.

[50:52] I, I came on the planning commission 1999, I'd lived in more park since 1995.

[50:57] My wife and I chose more park.

[50:59] I remember looking back at my original application, saying this is the town I wanted to live

[51:04] into raise a family, we didn't have a family at the time, now we have two kids, Quint

[51:08] five and Chetra's turn four.

[51:12] And this is the kind of commuter we wanted because we wanted a small town atmosphere.

[51:17] I grew up in North County San Diego, which at the time growing up, it was the fastest growing

[51:21] area in California.

[51:23] And as a kid, I was real concerned about the growth issues that were facing our city, and

[51:28] I saw a lot of mistakes that were being made.

[51:29] I think that a lot of good things have been done over the last eight years.

[51:35] Whether it been four certain projects or against certain projects, I think that the

[51:40] influence that I've had, at least I hope, have made a difference.

[51:44] I was real concerned about setbacks, for instance, on homes.

[51:48] And I know when applicants come to us, they don't ever try to violate the setback rules.

[51:54] So, there's a lot I'm proud of.

[51:57] I'm an attorney by trade.

[52:00] I have a graduate degree in history, which requires a lot of research and writing.

[52:06] And as an attorney, I'm involved in a lot of joint groups with other attorneys working

[52:12] in meetings and sitting around a room with bunch of attorneys is a lot less pleasurable than

[52:17] with other planning commissioners.

[52:21] I won't take up any more time.

[52:22] If I may get any questions, I can certainly answer them.

[52:24] I really have enjoyed the opportunity, I hope it continues.

[52:28] This opportunity has led me to be on the board for the Simi Valley Hospital and

[52:34] represent the City of More Park, sort of, as the liaison there.

[52:38] I've attended all the legal city conventions each year, and

[52:43] I really, very much enjoy the opportunity that you've provided me over the last eight years, and I hope it continues.

[52:49] Thank you very much.

[52:50] Thank you.

[52:54] Larry Miller.

[52:58] Good evening, sir. Good evening. Good evening, Patrick. Good

[53:01] evening, Mayor, to council members and staff. My name is Larry Miller. I live at 1-2-0-8-4-Alderburg.

[53:08] A little bit about my background. I currently, the facilities manager at Las Vegas Municipal Water District

[53:14] have been there for three years. Prior to that, I worked for the City of Los Angeles for 26 years.

[53:20] I worked at the Department of Airports, so I worked at Water and Power for a while and

[53:24] I also spent the last 15 years as a manager with public works.

[53:29] During that time, I also did part-time work at Venture College.

[53:32] I taught water science classes at the college for 15 years.

[53:36] And as far as my community involvement, I've been on the Quareridge 1-H-O-A for about 15

[53:43] years.

[53:43] I've been on all the positions, President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer.

[53:47] And the only one I've never been able to finagle is the member-large position, it seems

[53:51] always to go to some new person.

[53:55] And also some of my other community involvement, I've raised four daughters, we've lived

[54:00] in more park for 20 years, two of my older daughters were involved in the band and one was

[54:07] in the band, one was in the 12 flags and during that time I was the rowdy of the truck driver.

[54:13] So what that took, what that meant was I take a few hours off early on Friday and go pick up the big van at the at the school that the

[54:23] District yard go to school. We load up the truck with all these instruments and boxes and stuff and in early in the morning

[54:29] We get up in the morning a lot of us there in the audience were there clean Harper some some of you folks were there back then

[54:35] Take the kids at a school and what where we were playing for the for the Saturday and we'd watch them and help them and

[54:43] Pack up drive back to Moore Park and unload and it was it was probably some of the best a lot of times up at and

[54:50] I the only reason I put it to come to the city council

[54:53] I didn't have to see a witch doctor

[54:55] I thought I might have to see psychiatrists and ask myself to you why am I why am I doing this and

[55:00] I thank my good friend, Mr. Peske. He had mentioned that there was an opening on the planning commission. So I work with Bob. I work with Keith on some master HOA issues. And I just wanted to throw my hand in the ring and give it a shot. We're glad you did. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome.

[55:19] Thomas Nelson. Good evening.

[55:28] He has a brief presentation. If I could have the lights, please. And the camera.

[55:33] I've been a resident of a more part for about 11 years now.

[55:38] My background, I always did Disney Imagineera for almost 14 years.

[55:44] In these last few years, I've been doing architectural visualization for developers and architects

[55:50] and presenting information about physical models, renderings, and video flyers, these are a

[55:58] a little compressed right now, I think it should actually be a little wider.

[56:02] The very recent work, what I do is I take schematics, drawings, cocktail napkin sketches,

[56:10] you know, anything that people have, and I pull it together in a format that is

[56:15] a coherent and aesthetically satisfying.

[56:19] The reason I would be interested in being on the planning commission is that I would

[56:23] Often times when I'm working on projects like this I see things that could be improved

[56:30] Sometimes my input it is you know accepted sometimes. You know one just has to be quiet about things

[56:37] I think we're going to give you the wireless mic sir. Oh, hello. Oh, that's better

[56:44] This house for for instance

[56:48] The dining room area

[56:50] The architect had it where one of the walls came up and then jogged over and then went up again and wasn't aware of it and I kept telling him you have problems here.

[57:00] Things aren't working in your drawings, your draftsmen, these are not interpreting your intent correctly or he doesn't know what he's doing.

[57:09] It turns out when they actually went to build, they had lots of problems.

[57:13] The next piece that comes up is a house that needed a variance for setback, height, community

[57:19] character square footage that was presented to the Ventura County Planning Commission

[57:24] last February.

[57:26] This is the false house that's currently under construction, passed very enthusiastically

[57:33] by the planning commission members.

[57:36] They were very pleased that they could see attic lands exactly what was being intended.

[57:44] So basically, I'd just like to be further upstream in the process to be able to voice concerns

[57:49] I have about things that are being developed.

[57:54] Any questions?

[57:57] Your specialty is in, I just want to be designer.

[58:02] Okay.

[58:02] So the architecture that we're seeing is, I try to understand, just I present four architects

[58:12] and developers, I take their schematics, their drawings,

[58:15] and I do presentations for themselves,

[58:19] for their clients, and for any planning boards

[58:21] that they have to go through.

[58:24] Okay, so I have like a longstanding interest

[58:26] in architecture, I build architectural models,

[58:28] I've been doing this kind of thing

[58:29] for about 20 years now.

[58:31] And you package it in, and I think the manner

[58:33] that we saw the form, okay, I understand, very good.

[58:37] Can I get easier for people to visualize what's gonna happen?

[58:40] Well, you know, very few people, you know, looking at

[58:42] Lutherans ago, you know, what does this mean to me?

[58:44] Okay.

[58:45] Thank you.

[58:47] Thank you very much.

[58:48] Thank you, sir.

[58:48] Thank you for your patience as well.

[58:51] I apologize for the problems with the microphones.

[58:53] No.

[58:55] Robert Pesca.

[58:57] I know it's here to stay here.

[59:03] Good evening, Honorable Mayor and Councilor.

[59:06] You think?

[59:07] My name is Bob Pesca, and since I believe that you're all

[59:11] pretty well know me, I'll just

[59:12] just getting to a couple of salient factors.

[59:16] I've been a merit resident of the Moore Park for almost 11 years now,

[59:21] and this will be the completion of my second term on the Planning Commission.

[59:25] I've been an HOA board member for eight years, six of them as president,

[59:30] and I serve on the Board of Directors of the Boys and Girls Club.

[59:33] My introduction to planning was when it got thrown into the pool to learn to swim

[59:37] I was president of the Chamber of Commerce in Northridge.

[59:40] It's very active and growing chamber of commerce at a critical junction of the city when we had coming in a major what is now a major university, a major hospital and medical center and a major shopping center population about 66,000

[59:58] of that time, we

[1:00:00] We became a very active chamber and became known as somewhat of a quasi-governmental body because

[1:00:07] Los Angeles was way downtown and they didn't know what was going on in the valley and seemed

[1:00:11] to care less. So we kind of took control, established our credentials and accomplished

[1:00:16] a lot in more, in the north of the country. I'm really getting used to the north part.

[1:00:24] We brought in several businesses, major automobile dealerships, major restaurants, and we

[1:00:31] had a big hand in planning the area.

[1:00:35] We did it simply on the basis of the credence that we had gained as a community organization,

[1:00:41] not any legal precedents, and I can't tell you the number of times I testified before the

[1:00:45] planning commission and the board of zoning adjustment for the City of Los Angeles.

[1:00:50] In my two terms as a commissioner, I've had the privilege of serving with individuals who bring not only talent and experience to the commission, but high integrity and a strong work ethic.

[1:01:01] As an outstanding example, I refer you to the better part of a year we studied the proposed North Park project.

[1:01:07] The professional and even handed hearings of the commission were such that none of us knew until the end of all the public hearings, including this council's.

[1:01:15] whether any of the commissioners were in support of or opposition to the project.

[1:01:21] And I think that's a great example of professional integrity that you find on your planning commission.

[1:01:26] I'm a strong believer in public service. I have been all my life.

[1:01:30] And I will be honored to continue serving as a member of the planning commission.

[1:01:35] I'll be happy to answer any questions.

[1:01:38] Questions at this point?

[1:01:40] Thank you, and best wishes for a happy season.

[1:01:42] you as well. Thank you. Mark Taylor and

[1:01:49] Henry Thomas. Good evening, sir.

[1:01:58] Welcome. Thank you.

[1:02:00] Good evening. My name is Thomas Henry. I'm sorry. That's okay. Everybody gets

[1:02:03] wrong. I have three first names. My mother's fault.

[1:02:10] I'm a licensed architect. I moved to

[1:02:13] to more park in December of 2004,

[1:02:16] and I opened my architectural firm

[1:02:19] approximately 13 years ago in the city of Oxnard.

[1:02:22] I'm a firm believer in giving back to the community

[1:02:24] that finds me with living.

[1:02:26] So while I was in the city of Oxnard,

[1:02:29] I was the president, past president

[1:02:31] of the Portland Indian Chamber of Commerce.

[1:02:33] I was also a member of the Oxnard Boys and Girls Club,

[1:02:37] and currently in keeping in with that vein thought,

[1:02:41] I am a member of the Moore Park College Foundation as well as a member of the local Rotary Club.

[1:02:50] Architecture is my passion.

[1:02:53] It is something that affects everybody's life every day, with you believe it or not.

[1:02:58] From the time you get up and walk out to get your cup of coffee to your drive to work,

[1:03:02] Moore Park is a growing city.

[1:03:04] It has a lot of potential.

[1:03:06] I hate to see it go in the toilet.

[1:03:09] We have a very good commission.

[1:03:12] I would like to join that commission and work with some of my other architectural colleagues

[1:03:17] in this community to ensure that more part continues to grow in a very smart manner

[1:03:24] that we walk a very fine line at times between the open spaces as well as good development.

[1:03:31] And also to be able to look at when we need to make changes whether it is in our zoning

[1:03:37] ordinances or conditions for projects that we're not afraid to make those changes.

[1:03:42] And I feel that with my experience as an architect I can bring good ideas and be very

[1:03:50] extremely professional. As far as my personal career I have worked from everything from

[1:03:56] from small residential to major developments,

[1:03:59] including laboratory school work hospitals.

[1:04:02] And I've been in the architectural field for over 25 years.

[1:04:07] I would seriously consider,

[1:04:09] like to be considered for this opportunity,

[1:04:11] and I feel that I would be good for the city of Moore Park.

[1:04:14] Are there any questions?

[1:04:15] Your application mentioned some work that you've done

[1:04:18] with historical buildings.

[1:04:20] Yes.

[1:04:20] Can you summarize just briefly some of your work

[1:04:22] with historical buildings?

[1:04:23] Yes.

[1:04:24] Yes, I've worked on various city communities on the inventory as well as Oklahoma City in regards to some of the historical buildings that had to be preserved.

[1:04:35] Some of that work in Oklahoma City was while I was in the military.

[1:04:40] It was in the Air Force for six years.

[1:04:41] And my job there was to handle the architectural and engineering contracts as well as oversee the design of some of the Air Force historical buildings as well as when we were called upon by

[1:04:53] the local communities to work on those projects as well.

[1:05:00] Thank you very much. Thank you for your patience and thank you for being here.

[1:05:08] Any questions from the council at this point? Either in general or specifically.

[1:05:16] I think the council has previously agreed to consider the appointments at the regular meeting of the council on Wednesday, January 17th, is that correct? I think further on the item before we conclude. Thank you to everybody that took the opportunity to come down and speak to the council. We appreciate your

[1:05:36] where you're just doing willingness to serve

[1:05:38] and sharing your expertise and your ideas with us.

[1:05:41] We will go ahead and consider the appointments

[1:05:44] on Wednesday, January 17th.

[1:05:46] Your presence at that time is not required,

[1:05:49] although it's encouraged.

[1:05:51] So if you'd like any additional information

[1:05:54] on the process, please don't hesitate to contact us

[1:05:57] or Mr. CUNY as well.

[1:06:00] Mr. Mayor.

[1:06:01] Mr. Mayor?

[1:06:01] Just like to add, it's apparent from the applications

[1:06:04] and especially as the applications have been highlighted tonight that we have a tremendous

[1:06:08] community, the people that live here. Incredible talent, incredible self-sacrifice that people

[1:06:16] are willing to make and thank you for that. It's a pleasure to serve a community that is,

[1:06:21] and it's people like you that make the community so wonderful. After this whole process is over,

[1:06:26] if you have comments or thoughts and opinions as to whether this is an improvement,

[1:06:30] whether there's something else that should be done,

[1:06:34] you know, please feel free to share my,

[1:06:35] I probably encourage you to wait till after the 17th,

[1:06:38] especially if you're going to really nasty comments about it,

[1:06:42] but, and remember, your emails have come to the council,

[1:06:45] but everybody, so, if you're going to say something bad

[1:06:47] about Janice, make sure you, you know,

[1:06:49] I'm just teasing because I love Janice,

[1:06:51] but anyway, thanks again for that,

[1:06:53] and again, this is the first time,

[1:06:56] maybe this is a step forward, maybe a step back,

[1:06:57] I learned a lot tonight from listening to everybody

[1:06:59] and I'm just in awe of the talent and the people,

[1:07:03] and that's unfortunate.

[1:07:04] We have more people than positions,

[1:07:06] but that will fall on someone's shoulders to nominate,

[1:07:11] so we'll go from there, just pardon.

[1:07:13] What you don't get in the documents that we read

[1:07:15] was the passion.

[1:07:17] And hearing you, each of you, speak about your passion

[1:07:20] for the position really was well worth it,

[1:07:23] in my opinion, so far, so it's good.

[1:07:30] Thank you very much. We appreciate you being here.

[1:07:36] Item B is considered the appointments

[1:07:37] to the active adult center advisory committee, Mrs. Truffin-Steff.

[1:07:41] Mayor Hunter and council members, the active adult center advisory committee consists

[1:07:46] of five members who served two-year terms and we have received five applications. At this

[1:07:53] This time we're asking that the City Council appoint the act of adult-centered advisory committee members for that two-year charm.

[1:08:06] Questions from the council at this point?

[1:08:08] Speakers on the item?

[1:08:10] We have no speakers.

[1:08:12] Okay, I'd ask the council to first wave rules.

[1:08:14] I'll make the nominations collectively.

[1:08:16] That's acceptable.

[1:08:18] And we'll wave rules.

[1:08:19] It would be my intent then to nominate for a two-year term to the active adult-centered advisory committee.

[1:08:25] Maureen Abramson, Robert Moser, Nancy Walker, Carol Wolsey, and Robert Moran.

[1:08:33] With

[1:08:38] that in the formal promotion, I'll second.

[1:08:39] Motion in a second, any further discussion?

[1:08:41] All in favor?

[1:08:42] Aye.

[1:08:43] It will be the order.

[1:08:45] Item C is to consider appointments to the Citizens Transportation Advisory Committee.

[1:08:49] Mrs. Kraftensteck?

[1:08:50] Mayor Hunter, Councilmembers, the City of World Park appoints two representatives and one alternate to the Ventura County Citizens Transportation Advisory Committee.

[1:08:59] We've received applications from three individuals for these positions, so at this time, we're asking that the City Council make the appointments for the two representatives and the one alternate question.

[1:09:18] Any questions on this?

[1:09:21] Dr. Micos?

[1:09:22] The question I have is certainly when we had five applicants in five seats, it's relatively

[1:09:31] pro forma. Did we give the opportunity to these groups to come to speak to us tonight

[1:09:36] too or not?

[1:09:37] No.

[1:09:38] The council's direction was toward the other whether we need admissions to invite those

[1:09:44] commissions.

[1:09:45] All right.

[1:09:46] I was just wondering about that.

[1:09:47] Is my understanding for the citizens transportation advisory committee that is two regular appointments and one alternate and this was

[1:10:00] Actually done with two recruitment, the first ended with one applicant. The position was re-advertised and two additional applications were received. That's correct. In past years to fill the alternate we have used a city staff member.

[1:10:22] Dr. Michaels. I was just going to say, it's an extremely strong rule of applicants this time compared to any other time for the citizens transportation advisory committee.

[1:10:35] I'm blown away with being impressed by all of the candidates in the sense that they all

[1:10:44] have some very strong connection and not always the same connection but a strong connection

[1:10:51] with transportation and so I mean I think we're going to do well no matter what and we will

[1:10:59] Well, for the first time in a long time, end up with an alternate that doesn't have to be said.

[1:11:07] We have speakers on the item?

[1:11:08] No speakers.

[1:11:10] Okay.

[1:11:11] It's a pleasure to counsel.

[1:11:12] It would be my intent then to appoint to the or to nominate to the Citizens Transportation Advisory Committee for the two regular positions, Dr.

[1:11:24] Mr. Bush, Molly, and Mr. Charles Devlin, and as the alternate Mr. Donald Bane.

[1:11:28] Second.

[1:11:29] Motion to second any further discussion?

[1:11:31] All in favor.

[1:11:32] Aye.

[1:11:33] Without objection.

[1:11:35] Item D, consider a waiver of temporary use permit fees and building permit fees for rebuilding

[1:11:40] the homes, destroyed, and the Shekel Fire, Mr. Hogan.

[1:11:43] Good evening.

[1:11:43] Good evening, Mayor.

[1:11:44] Members of the Council.

[1:11:46] After the fire in 2003, the Council had directed staff to bring forward a report similar

[1:11:53] to this and we took it on ourselves to bring this report forward to you for your consideration

[1:11:59] to waive permit fees for the four homes that were destroyed in recent fire, the two mobile homes

[1:12:06] and two homes and two mobile homes. Actually, there are also other homes that were damaged and

[1:12:14] while this report doesn't include that, I want to add that to your consideration.

[1:12:21] essentially what we were looking at is for permits, a way of the permits, the cost

[1:12:29] of about 1925 dollars, and in talking with our building official, the other homes

[1:12:35] re-roughing and other permits will be necessary to repair the fire damage of homes from the

[1:12:43] recent fire would total above additional $2,000. So if the council is of the mind to do

[1:12:52] the same as you did in 2003 and essentially waive the fees then we would bring back an

[1:12:58] appropriation resolution for your next agenda for about $4,000 that should more than cover

[1:13:06] the waiver of necessary building permit fees and any other applications that might be

[1:13:12] required through the entitlement process.

[1:13:16] I might also mention while I have the opportunity we have been working with a local builder and

[1:13:23] trying to provide some of the Rotary Club, I should say myself as a Rotarian has been

[1:13:31] working with the party homes and with the LaPurche family and trying to locate a mobile home

[1:13:38] for them to be relocated on their site.

[1:13:42] I'm pleased to say we have secured a mobile home for them,

[1:13:45] three bedroom, two bath unit.

[1:13:48] Part E is stepped up to the plate and said they will pay

[1:13:52] for the cost and relocation of that home.

[1:13:56] They will also pay for its new carpet and any dry wall

[1:14:02] and for the cost of assembling that home

[1:14:04] and leveling it on the site.

[1:14:06] and we're also trying to get some last minute things done and we'll be looking for volunteers to help us build the deck and the ramp required for mom to get up into the unit.

[1:14:22] It will be placed on her old site, so it will be very familiar to her.

[1:14:26] We're hoping that we can get this done before the new year, but that might be tight.

[1:14:33] But we're moving very rapidly forward on this, and I talked to Duran about this today.

[1:14:39] She's very pleased.

[1:14:40] She can't believe how quickly things have come together and how the community has responded.

[1:14:47] We were able recently, as I think two days ago, the Rotary Club gave her a check of part

[1:14:55] part of the donations that we've received and we are in the process of distributing the

[1:14:59] rest.

[1:15:00] Most of those. Thank you to Part D for their participation in the process. That's very, very nice. I support, of course, to ask recommended action, but we have received, and we'll probably receive in the future, a number of requests for building permits and light permits from residents whose homes were not destroyed, but simply damaged and are going to meet permits. In fact, we've already had one resident whose home was damaged, acquire a building permit to make a necessary repair.

[1:15:28] So I would ask that the council consider expanding the program to include the cost of building permits for necessary repairs, and further contemplate a refund of those fees.

[1:15:42] I think they're in the area of about $200 to the resident who has already paid for a building fee to make repairs to the roof.

[1:15:49] So I think that would be consistent with the extent of the council.

[1:15:55] Any other questions?

[1:15:57] Speakers on the item?

[1:15:58] No speakers.

[1:15:59] First, Mrs. Parvin.

[1:16:01] Barry, was there, I think, isn't Rotary still collecting funds for?

[1:16:05] We still are collecting those funds.

[1:16:10] You know, I don't off the hand, know what the address is.

[1:16:14] We've received funds from as far away as we had a simple note saying I used to live in

[1:16:21] part it was no no return address and on it it was a stamp from Colorado and inside was a folded

[1:16:31] five dollar bill. We're getting all kinds of requests and it's our intent to distribute that money

[1:16:38] very quickly as part of the club and as a board member I'm speaking for for rotary as to the needy

[1:16:45] parties. The city has a list of those damaged homes, at least we're aware of, and if anyone

[1:16:53] is not on that list, they should come forward to the city so that we can help them through

[1:16:59] the process. If somebody wants to volunteer to help build the ramp for the approach property,

[1:17:06] is there a contact number? They call you. That's easier now. That's probably the easiest

[1:17:13] Just to call me, that number would be 517-6258, and that's my direct line.

[1:17:20] I just, we are getting very good at this, which is unfortunate.

[1:17:24] But I do appreciate that this was, this was so quickly processed, and it is very proactive on staff's part, and I want to thank you for that.

[1:17:32] Thank you.

[1:17:32] I think if you're interested in contributing to the fund, you can make checks payable to the Rotary Club of Morepark and send them to PO Box 172 in Morepark.

[1:17:41] Thank you. We will be happy to rotary. We'll be happy to pass those along to those who are in need. Do you have speakers on the item?

[1:17:50] No speakers.

[1:17:52] How's the council wish to proceed?

[1:17:54] Move staff recommendation with the adjustments suggested by both Mr. Hogan and the mayor.

[1:18:00] Second motion and a second with the clerk call the roll. Please.

[1:18:03] Council Member Micahess.

[1:18:04] Aye.

[1:18:05] Council Member Milhoes.

[1:18:07] Aye.

[1:18:08] Council Member Barbant.

[1:18:09] Aye.

[1:18:10] Council Member Van Dam.

[1:18:11] Aye.

[1:18:11] Mayor Hunter.

[1:18:12] Item E. Consider a ward for construction contract for projects who interconnect the signals along Los Angeles Avenue and Tierra Raja Road and a resolution amending the fiscal year 67 budget to revise funding for the projects.

[1:18:25] Next, Mr. Al, good evening.

[1:18:26] Good evening, Honourable Mayor, Member of the City Council.

[1:18:29] On September 28, 2006, the City Council approved the classes specifications for

[1:18:34] the construction of interconnect signal for the area under Los Angeles Avenue.

[1:18:40] Bills were received from contractors, and tonight we are here to consider the ward of construction

[1:18:45] contract for the construction of these two projects.

[1:18:48] These projects will ensure a much smoother flow of traffic along these two streets.

[1:18:53] based on the designated speed limits identified on these routes.

[1:18:58] These projects would also reduce pollution and provide a more efficient flow of traffic along the area and Los Angeles Avenue.

[1:19:06] Staff is considering the water contracted task, electric, engineers, the cost in a month of $51,070, and it is very comparable with the engineers' estimate.

[1:19:19] If there's any questions that I can answer, apparently there's just been a change in the

[1:19:27] funding sources.

[1:19:29] Can you explain the change in the funding sources?

[1:19:32] What has occurred is in the past, a certain dollar amount that was allocated from the

[1:19:38] CMAP funding was used for the Maureen Lane and Los Angeles Avenue widening.

[1:19:43] So a part of the grant that we received from the state of California form for the LA Avenue that was reduced from

[1:19:52] 320,000 to 90,000 dollars and additionally because of the cost the projects came in below the grant

[1:20:02] We have a surplus of fund for these two projects.

[1:20:09] Mr. Mayor.

[1:20:13] Mr. Law, I noticed just that it was such an astronomical different price for the second bid. And yet, you know, you've said that it fits with the engineer's estimate the low bid. And so, do you have any idea why there was such a big discrepancy? And if there are

[1:20:31] is any likelihood that the one is too low?

[1:20:34] If we look on page 14 of the spreadsheet, we're in the bit.

[1:20:39] There's a bit analysis based on the engineer's estimate on vendor one, which is staff electric

[1:20:44] and vendor two.

[1:20:45] It shows a differential price for each item, as identified.

[1:20:50] And basically, it identified in two particular area where the vendor number two, which is freeway

[1:20:58] electric. Their numbers were very much higher than the engineer's estimate or

[1:21:03] taft electric. One was in mobilization, traffic control and also in item number

[1:21:10] six on the schedule B. I'm sorry on item number five under I scheduled B for

[1:21:17] theory how to. There was a this party in prices there. Right well I mean I did

[1:21:22] notice those but I was just wondering I mean what's involved in mobilization so

[1:21:25] So that it's such a huge, I mean, it's twice as much.

[1:21:28] Sometimes contractors use that number to get money up front as part of a construction

[1:21:32] of project.

[1:21:33] Yeah.

[1:21:33] And some contractor who may be much more local do not have to use a high dollar among

[1:21:38] formalization.

[1:21:40] Okay.

[1:21:40] So you think of this located in Ventura and the other one's Riverside, so you think it's

[1:21:44] more travel?

[1:21:45] It could also be.

[1:21:46] It could also be that.

[1:21:47] And also Taft has been doing all the work in Ventura County, they are more aware of all

[1:21:52] the conditions.

[1:21:53] I'm a contractor who is far away may not be fully aware of all the requirements

[1:21:58] within the city and mobilization or I mean cost of materials or homes or stuff like that.

[1:22:05] So it doesn't really surprise you that there would be that big of a difference?

[1:22:08] No, it does not.

[1:22:10] Okay, all right.

[1:22:11] I just wanted to feel comfortable and I feel better listening to your explanation and yet.

[1:22:16] Thank you.

[1:22:17] Any other questions at this point?

[1:22:19] Question?

[1:22:19] I know that construction business requests are from ten different firms and only two of them responded back.

[1:22:28] Is that any area of concern?

[1:22:30] Because I think Dr. Michaels has a very good question.

[1:22:33] There's a huge disparity between those and at up ten, only two responded.

[1:22:40] Some of those ten may have been subcontractors who have on many occasions you have quite a large number of vendors

[1:22:47] who purchase bid documents, many of those vendors could be subcontractors who

[1:22:54] subbed the larger contractors. That's the main reason we get a large amount of

[1:22:59] bid documents. Just to clarify, that sentence may have been

[1:23:03] worded a little bit better. We didn't request from them. They picked up bids.

[1:23:09] This is open to any number of firms.

[1:23:13] Mr. Millhouse, I just wanted to point out in the packet,

[1:23:17] I'm sure everybody saw this but for the people at home the work is going to commence in January of this year

[1:23:22] It should be completed by April 2007. Is that correct? Yes. Okay, you're very interesting to see.

[1:23:28] Barring any unforeseen circumstance. How the impact is once that's completed. It's long overdue

[1:23:34] Okay, one more quick question quickly. Well, we'll be able to

[1:23:41] Quantify how much better it is?

[1:23:44] Yes, we will, because we will have in the future sometimes we would have a traffic

[1:23:49] operation center in one of the offices, wherein we will have a computer we will be able

[1:23:53] to extract all information in terms of the peak hours of traffic and the volume of traffic

[1:24:00] at each intersection.

[1:24:01] Do we have baseline data now that we can compare against?

[1:24:04] We have baseline data that we've used based on content, not on a daily basis.

[1:24:09] And because to the extent that we could show how it was improved, I think that would be

[1:24:15] useful to know.

[1:24:16] I really do.

[1:24:17] And I don't know how much more difficult it is to do that, but if there's a way to

[1:24:21] pull off having some baseline data before this change, I think it would be very informative

[1:24:28] to get a report on how much better it is.

[1:24:32] We have some existing information that we've used, that used to establish existing timing.

[1:24:39] And we can use that as a basis, but that subject to change based on the flow of traffic in

[1:24:45] the future when it's all synchronized and working together.

[1:24:50] Yeah, if the council is in agreement, I would sure like to see if we could get any kind of

[1:24:55] quantifiable report on after the fact, you know.

[1:25:00] We have speakers on the item. No speakers. Just a request in a comment, one, a request of the city manager that can closely scrutinize any request to use a contract contingency. Given this extraordinarily low bid, although valid and reasonable bid, there may be some request or request to use a contract contingency with a staff to closely monitor any request to use that contingency. It's second, just a comment. Part of this scope of work includes a warrant

[1:25:30] analysis to change some signals from what is called a protected to a permissive stage.

[1:25:40] And I will be a hard sell in supporting any change from a protected to a permissive

[1:25:46] stage, which essentially allows vehicles to make a left turn when traffic is clear on

[1:25:53] the green arrow as opposed to being entitled to do so on a left arrow.

[1:25:56] Now, I think one of the reasons why we have a very sound traffic safety record in this

[1:26:02] city is because our intersections are predominantly, if not all, protected left turns so we don't

[1:26:08] have the turning conflicts.

[1:26:10] So as staff moves through this process, I will make you aware that I'll be a very difficult

[1:26:15] cell to change any protected to a permissive.

[1:26:20] Mr. Maul.

[1:26:21] As far as this project is concerned, the studies was done to see if protective permissive

[1:26:27] Was warranted and in all these situations that the study was done

[1:26:32] Protective permissive was not warranted. So we are not going to implement any protective permissive. Okay.

[1:26:37] Has that been eliminated from the documents then and that's no longer a part of the scope of work?

[1:26:42] It's not part of the scope of work. I don't know the construction. It's not an issue

[1:26:47] With that all entertainment motion move the item with the amendment from the mayor on a scrutinization. I'll second motion a second with a clerk

[1:26:55] Call the roll, please.

[1:26:56] Council Member Mailhouse.

[1:26:57] Aye.

[1:26:58] Council Member Parvin.

[1:26:59] Aye.

[1:27:00] Council Member Van Dam.

[1:27:01] Aye.

[1:27:01] Council Member Michael.

[1:27:02] Aye.

[1:27:03] Aye.

[1:27:04] Item F. Consider an approved library policies.

[1:27:07] Mrs. Mellon Good evening.

[1:27:08] Good evening, Mayor Hunter and members of the Council.

[1:27:11] Tonight I'm here to discuss and staff is requesting your approval of three more parts

[1:27:15] of the library policies to be adopted and going to effect on January 1, 2007.

[1:27:22] I'm going to ask a question of you now.

[1:27:24] Would you like to go through these one at a time,

[1:27:26] or would you like me to speak about all three of them

[1:27:28] and then open it all to discussion?

[1:27:31] Maybe you can summarize for us and we're both in there.

[1:27:35] As stated in the staff report before you,

[1:27:37] the circulation policy dictates terms

[1:27:39] by which materials can be borrowed,

[1:27:41] discusses how to get a library card,

[1:27:43] and outlines library fines and fees.

[1:27:46] There are a couple of changes to current Ventura County

[1:27:49] policy within our circulation policy that I'll outline briefly, we are going to have hot

[1:27:55] off-depressed popular books that will loan for one week with no holds or renewals.

[1:27:59] This will allow patrons that are quick readers and like to read the best sellers a chance

[1:28:05] to come in and do what we call browsing of new books and have a better selection of books

[1:28:10] to choose from.

[1:28:12] Fines for overdue audio books will be $1 per day rather than the standard $0.20 per day.

[1:28:17] Audio books are very hot items and they are quite expensive.

[1:28:22] So in order to have people have a better incentive to bring those items back, we are increasing

[1:28:28] those fines and that is kind of commonplace throughout library systems now.

[1:28:34] As well as the maximum overdue fine for audio books, DVDs, videos, and music compactus will

[1:28:40] be $20 rather than $6 also to proactively try to get people to return those items promptly

[1:28:47] because they will check out quickly.

[1:28:49] Second is the Material Selection Policy,

[1:28:52] which explains how staff selects cultural,

[1:28:55] educational, and recreational material for the library.

[1:28:58] And this includes a brief on the Adoptive Book Program

[1:29:01] that staff would like to initiate.

[1:29:03] The third policy is the Internet and Computer Use Policy,

[1:29:08] which outlines rules regarding the public internet computers

[1:29:11] and also covers the wireless terms of use policy.

[1:29:14] The library will have a wireless network and provide internet service to the public and

[1:29:20] we needed to include some conditions as far as that goes for the library.

[1:29:27] Employees at libraries have a difficult role.

[1:29:29] They provide the service to community members and preserve laws of confidentiality while

[1:29:35] trying to keep consistent on policy with every patron and to have strong and clear policies

[1:29:40] in place assist the staff and enabling them to provide good quality customer service.

[1:29:46] With the assistance of LSSI and input from the library task force, staff has attempted

[1:29:51] to find a balance between the current Ventura County policies and the needs of our city library

[1:29:57] while being fair to the community.

[1:30:00] If you have any questions regarding the policies or how we came to our decisions on the policies, I would be happy to answer that. Is it my understanding that these policies are generally consistent with industry wide, best practices? They're not, if they're different from other library systems throughout the area, they're not significantly different. That is correct. They are generally consistent. And just a question I thought I heard you say with respect to the hot off the press collection.

[1:30:30] that there would be no renewals and no holds.

[1:30:33] Correct.

[1:30:34] Yet under renewals, it talks about a standard loan period

[1:30:38] for the item unless the item is on hold for another borrower.

[1:30:41] Correct. Every other item in the library can be requested

[1:30:45] to be put on hold, which means if you have a book out

[1:30:49] for the three week loan period and somebody else wishes

[1:30:51] to borrow that book, they can put what's called a reserve

[1:30:54] or a hold on that book.

[1:30:55] But not for a hot-up book.

[1:30:56] Not for those hot-up requests.

[1:30:58] And those are the best hours and those are the only

[1:31:00] capital.

[1:31:01] Very good.

[1:31:02] Thank you.

[1:31:03] Dr. Michaels.

[1:31:04] With respect to the wireless network.

[1:31:08] Do we know already that the building is is is set up to handle the wireless network

[1:31:14] properly?

[1:31:15] It is.

[1:31:16] We are buying new technology equipment or buy new routers and switches.

[1:31:19] We're upgrading the technology there at the library and buying access points which will

[1:31:24] will allow the internet access hotspot capability.

[1:31:27] Okay, thank you.

[1:31:30] And we're having a grand opening for the library

[1:31:32] early next year.

[1:31:33] Maybe you'd like to talk a little bit about that

[1:31:34] and what you have plans for that.

[1:31:36] Absolutely, the dedication and grand opening event

[1:31:38] is scheduled for Saturday, January 13th.

[1:31:41] So we'll begin at 9.30 in the morning

[1:31:43] and we'll have a ribbon cutting at 10 o'clock,

[1:31:47] which is the time the library currently opens on Saturday

[1:31:49] and we'll continue to stay open on Saturday.

[1:31:51] today. Two programs are scheduled for the day, one at 1030, for the children in the

[1:31:57] children's area of the library, and another at 2 o'clock in the afternoon, which is an

[1:32:00] all-ages program. And we are printing out a lot of material that's going to be handed

[1:32:05] out to the community to publicize any events.

[1:32:09] Great. Any other questions, Mr. Van Dam? I know that with the increase of the fines for

[1:32:16] the audiobooks, my wife is concerned since she's in there several times a week, but she

[1:32:20] She promised to get those books in on time, so she won't get those fines.

[1:32:24] And I visited the library recently because I had a question about the Internet access

[1:32:30] and the unfiltered points.

[1:32:34] And I was pleased to find out that they had moved them some distance away from the rest

[1:32:41] of the computers where someone who was using unfiltered access, it would not be, they're

[1:32:46] very difficult to see with the shrouds and everything.

[1:32:48] So that was a concern with all the kids in there and I absolutely agree with the the point of the parents need a monitor

[1:32:55] It's not the librarians job to be the internet police, but I'm glad they're proactive in positioning those

[1:33:02] computers

[1:33:05] do you have speakers on the item? No speakers. How's the council which to proceed?

[1:33:10] Move staff's recommendation second motion a second any further discussion all in favor. I pose

[1:33:16] Motion carries unanimously.

[1:33:19] Item G, consider Ventura County Local Agency

[1:33:21] Formation Commission draft policies

[1:33:24] to address mitigation for impacts

[1:33:26] to agricultural land resources, Mr. Hogan.

[1:33:29] Thank you, Mayor, members of the council.

[1:33:31] At your last meeting, council member Parvin requested

[1:33:35] this agenda item to discuss the draft,

[1:33:38] Lafko policies relating to agricultural land,

[1:33:41] resource impact mitigation.

[1:33:43] As you know, lethko has the authority in determining public agency boundaries established

[1:33:49] by the Cortisi Knox Hertzberg Local Government Reorganization Act of 2000.

[1:33:56] The act specifically addresses the conversion of agricultural lands and essentially it provides

[1:34:03] for reviewing and approving or disapproving of proposals that lead to the conversion of existing

[1:34:08] open space lands and consider all of policies and priorities, especially those that involve

[1:34:14] open space being guided away from existing prime land to non-prime agricultural land development

[1:34:21] of existing vacant or non-prime agricultural land for urban uses within the existing jurisdiction

[1:34:27] of a local agency or the sphere of influence would be encouraged before any proposal would

[1:34:33] be approved would lead to development of existing open space lands which are outside of the

[1:34:39] jurisdiction boundary. Essentially what Lafgo is trying to do is to provide policies

[1:34:45] that they would use to respond to development proposals so that they can consistently respond

[1:34:52] throughout the county. It should be noted that the policies, the latest revised draft policies

[1:35:00] Directive and not mandatory, and we've attached copies of those policies. The bobar of our staff is also here to answer any detailed questions you might have. I'd be happy to answer any questions. Questions of Mr. Hogan at this point, Dr. Micos?

[1:35:19] Showing you the commissioners handbook and maybe Mr. Parvin might want to jump in on this too since she serves in on the committee. They talk about agriculture and open space preservation.

[1:35:29] But the revised policy there is talking specifically about agricultural.

[1:35:36] Is that correct, or are they really talking about both in the revised?

[1:35:40] Well, I'll let Dave or stay.

[1:35:42] Yeah, I think Dave should call it.

[1:35:43] Yeah, I think Dave would be the person that could answer that.

[1:35:46] Okay, can you repeat that?

[1:35:47] All right, I was basically saying that when you, in the staff report, the attachments,

[1:35:53] the first attachment, the commissioner's handbook references, the sections talking

[1:35:58] about agriculture and open space preservation, but then when you get to attachment to the new

[1:36:04] policies are to address mitigation for impacts to agricultural land resources, they don't

[1:36:09] use the word open space too. Is that intentional or not?

[1:36:12] That is intentional. What Lafko is looking for is when different agencies prepare environmental

[1:36:20] mental impact reports for development projects, each agency tends to choose its own thresholds

[1:36:29] of significance and methods for measuring impact on agricultural land, as well as definition

[1:36:35] of what prime agricultural land is.

[1:36:38] What life goes offering here is if the agencies use a definition of prime agricultural land

[1:36:47] has provided in the Cortezinox Hertzberg Act, excuse me, they could then use that analysis

[1:36:56] when they're considering the annexation and they don't have to do a duplicative analysis.

[1:37:04] Okay, so they're only talking about mitigation for impacts to agricultural land and not

[1:37:13] not for impacts to open space?

[1:37:15] That's correct.

[1:37:16] Okay.

[1:37:18] Thank you.

[1:37:19] Mrs. Parvin.

[1:37:20] Well, the reason why I wanted to bring this forward

[1:37:22] was that it was very interesting

[1:37:24] and I know it's an ever-evolving draft,

[1:37:27] but in our meeting that we had in early December,

[1:37:32] we have a quite different version than today's,

[1:37:35] you know, the one I got in our city package.

[1:37:39] So as you can see this one's 6, number 6, and this is 4.

[1:37:46] So when I opened it up and noticed that it was different than what LAPCO had presented to us,

[1:37:52] I could see that it had already evolved since our meeting.

[1:37:55] So I would say that the teeth of what we discussed at LAPCO is pretty much gone in this version,

[1:38:02] and the things that brought out all the passion and all the speakers and lawyers

[1:38:06] and everybody, every farmer that came to our meeting, is now subsided because they

[1:38:12] change words such as will, to shall, or shall, they change wording, and it's

[1:38:21] significantly different. They took a big chunk out of number two, and you'll

[1:38:25] never, you won't have seen it, but that's good because I think it's a lot, I said,

[1:38:29] more meaningful, much more meaningful document now. But the whole reason that

[1:38:35] this all came up is over the course of the past couple of years, since I've been on

[1:38:40] Lafgo, we have seen some very poorly and very inadequate EIR and CEQA documents. And

[1:38:48] it seems to be becoming a norm throughout the entire county. I know that more park isn't

[1:38:55] guilty of that and I'm not going to name any particular cities, but when you read the

[1:39:01] mitigation for some of, for on the ER or the SQL documents, you're not really, they

[1:39:08] don't look well analyzed. And so what we're trying to bring to everyone's attention from

[1:39:14] the LAFCO level is that we no longer will tolerate that. We're going to be rejecting those documents

[1:39:21] and sending them back to agencies, not just the city but other agencies. So it's become

[1:39:27] I'm a problem, and that's why we're bringing it out,

[1:39:29] and that's why we had the meetings in December,

[1:39:32] just to bring it to everyone's attention.

[1:39:34] I won't say more park, more park certainly isn't guilty of it,

[1:39:37] but a lot of other agencies are not doing their job.

[1:39:43] And so that's why we're coming up

[1:39:44] with these additional guidelines or policies.

[1:39:47] Follow-up question?

[1:39:49] Yes.

[1:39:51] Well, when you first said that they took the teeth out

[1:39:54] of it, that had me worried.

[1:39:56] and so I don't know what's really gone. I do understand what...

[1:40:00] Mr. Bobarck said, and that, you know, it's good to try to have people following the same standards for thresholds of significance. But I think I also heard you say that that's what they're recommending, but people still don't have to do it. At the current draft, that is correct. They're, their previous draft used shall instead of should. They changed it to should as it is a local agency's decision on how to do the environmental impact.

[1:40:29] report. What this policy does is provide some guidance to make it easier when the project

[1:40:37] goes through the Lafko process.

[1:40:39] Is it that Lafko doesn't have the authority to tell people you shall do this or you shall

[1:40:43] do that, or is it that this was supposed to be a compromise and what Lafko is intending

[1:40:50] to do is if they don't do it, they're going to send it back.

[1:40:53] It's an education process. That's the intent.

[1:40:58] Okay, so other than the difference between shall and should, what else is missing?

[1:41:04] One of the other interesting things and we have our legal councils going to come back

[1:41:08] to us is that there's different, the veriating definitions of what's considered agricultural land.

[1:41:16] And because it veriates, it's very challenging when it comes to Lafgo because a city or an

[1:41:21] agency will review it based on their own definition of it, not the lack of version.

[1:41:32] So it doesn't fit.

[1:41:35] So we're going to get, I'm not sure if you've heard the same thing, but we're going to

[1:41:38] get a legal opinion on real definitions since there's two very different definitions of agriculture

[1:41:45] land.

[1:41:46] What sounded like the, in a staff report on 52 and 53, basically, that they were referencing

[1:41:56] definitions that were in the government code saying you had to use those, right?

[1:42:02] Right.

[1:42:03] But the government.

[1:42:04] Whether they're really saying that in the policy, I don't know, because in the policy part

[1:42:07] we have didn't reference those so much, did it?

[1:42:11] Now we're examining that and I will probably come back to you with more information on that

[1:42:15] That may be a box item or something, but definitely they're different, they don't match.

[1:42:22] If I might add to that, the Department of Conservation has a definition for a primate

[1:42:29] agricultural land, which is much narrower than the Cortisi-Noxford definition, it generally

[1:42:35] means irrigated crops with certain soils with good organic material and the Cortisi-Nox

[1:42:43] look, Surfsburg goes way beyond that and even includes grazing land under the definition.

[1:42:50] I think what Lafko's looking for is that the environmental document recognized this

[1:42:56] if the project's going to involve an annexation.

[1:43:00] And they would call it all prime ag land.

[1:43:04] Correct.

[1:43:05] Do we have speakers on the item?

[1:43:07] No speakers.

[1:43:08] Mrs. Parvin, how would you like us to proceed?

[1:43:10] I think it's basically a receiving file and I'll keep you updated.

[1:43:17] Consensus.

[1:43:18] Item 10 is the consent calendar.

[1:43:20] The council has previously agreed on all items 10 D and 10 J. Is there anything else

[1:43:25] from staff?

[1:43:26] No, Mr. Mayor.

[1:43:27] I'll entertain a motion on the balance of the consent calendar.

[1:43:29] Summit.

[1:43:30] Second.

[1:43:31] Would the clerk call the roll, please?

[1:43:32] Council Member Parvin.

[1:43:34] Aye.

[1:43:34] Council Member Micahs.

[1:43:35] Aye.

[1:43:36] Council Member Van Dam.

[1:43:37] Aye.

[1:43:38] Council Member Wilhelm.

[1:43:39] Aye.

[1:43:39] Mayor Hunter.

[1:43:40] Item D, consider a resolution adopting the Integrated Regional Waste Management Plan

[1:43:45] prepared by the Watershed Coalition of Ventura County, Dr. Micos.

[1:43:49] The reason I pulled this is a couple of reasons actually.

[1:43:54] I wondered to what extent has our staff been involved heavily or not heavily in the actual

[1:44:04] stakeholder work to do this particular plan that would be my first question.

[1:44:14] We have been involved to the extent that we had a staff member attend some of the meetings,

[1:44:21] but not all of the meetings and recently we have been more present at the regular meetings

[1:44:27] that we have been involved.

[1:44:29] And when this organization, when this department first started, we were very short on staff in

[1:44:36] in terms of getting personnel there.

[1:44:38] So we were not involved as much as we are involved

[1:44:40] at this particular time.

[1:44:42] So in reference to the report,

[1:44:46] we have provided written statements all along.

[1:44:49] Whenever there was a draft document that was prepared by the IRWLMP,

[1:44:55] we were always prepared written statements or comments.

[1:45:02] Okay, because as I looked at, I mean, I didn't read every word of the plan. Don't get me wrong, but I did look at the different projects that are proposed in which ones are in the more park area and so forth. And what they might have coming down the pike. And I'm also thinking about our adding the whole idea about drainage and so forth to our top 10 priorities and

[1:45:29] And I, for one, would like to be sure that we're going to be really, really, really involved

[1:45:35] in this as it goes forward because the $25 million grant that they just got.

[1:45:42] And because of, it looks like there's a whole future planning process that is about to begin.

[1:45:50] I had some conversations with some of the people over in watershed protection about this.

[1:45:54] and it looks like there might be some proactive opportunities for us to really be involved so

[1:46:00] that it will fit with our top 10 priorities with respect to drainage and watershed issues

[1:46:04] and so I really think it's important for us to do that.

[1:46:07] The other thing I wanted to ask, and this would be to come back as a CV or something like

[1:46:13] that for anybody else who wants it, but there were references to a number of water plans

[1:46:20] that relate to us, for instance, the Urban Water Management Plan for Water Works District

[1:46:24] number one.

[1:46:25] You did give us the CD for this already, for this particular plan, which is great.

[1:46:31] Perhaps the new Fox Canyon Groundwater Management Agency Management Plan that's coming.

[1:46:39] And I think there was one I noticed, the Integrated Watershed Protection Plan 2005 Zone 3, which

[1:46:46] just for I think our watershed.

[1:46:49] Those are the ones that struck me at the moment

[1:46:51] and I think it would be nice if,

[1:46:54] and there might be some others that are really apropos

[1:46:56] to us right here in the Kayegis watershed

[1:47:00] for those who are interested.

[1:47:02] I know I am, I would like to get a CD with it all in one CD,

[1:47:05] so that I've got my water CD stuff all in one place

[1:47:09] because I think that this stuff is really important

[1:47:13] and I just wanted to bring this to everybody's attention in the sense that we have so much to do with respect to watershed and flooding issues that I thought it warranted pulling off the consent calendar to hopefully give some direction to keep the staff really, really heavily involved and maybe it will be anyhow, but I just wanted to be sure.

[1:47:34] And so unless anybody else has any further comments, Dr. Micos.

[1:47:40] Yeah, I would move to adopt the resolution, and along with the comments to keep staff very involved in this process.

[1:47:52] Second, any further discussion? All in favor?

[1:47:55] Hi.

[1:47:56] We'd be ordered.

[1:47:57] Item J, consider bond exonerations for Lanar and more park LLC, Dr. Micos.

[1:48:02] I pulled this only to ask that that particular track is the track that has the

[1:48:10] Vernal Pool and I wanted to follow up we had received an email from fellow

[1:48:16] councilmember Van Dam and I just wanted to ask staff what their feeling was

[1:48:20] with respect to the issue of the Vernal Pool and whether or not it's appropriately

[1:48:25] We protected so that all parties who should have a role will have a role whether or not we should you know, you know, why we should or shouldn't really do this exoneration with respect to that. Is there anything really open that is Linar's responsibility?

[1:48:44] If I may even though this isn't my staff report, I think I have the answer for you.

[1:48:49] What might be appropriate to us and what meets the requirements of the conditions may

[1:48:56] be two different things.

[1:48:59] They have met the requirements of the condition with respect to the maintenance of the

[1:49:04] vernal pool.

[1:49:05] The waters continue to be separated for the open space to drain into the vernal pools

[1:49:11] their area, the conservancy seems to be satisfied with that maintenance, however there are continue

[1:49:19] to be problems in conflicts between what normal

[1:49:29] residents would look at as an area that probably

[1:49:35] should be introduced landscaping rather than native landscaping and conflicts in the

[1:49:41] I mean, it's different to the opinion about what belongs native and what belongs in food.

[1:49:45] Yeah, there's a particular area that along the rear yards of some homes where the water clearly is segregated as it comes down.

[1:49:54] There is a slump block wall that's about three feet high in front of that wall.

[1:50:07] On the other side of that wall is what residents considered to be their rear yard yet that vegetation there is native vegetation. I think that's patently wrong. And the Conservancy will not listen to any changes to the plan. There's a demarcation of landscaping as you go along some of the exterior slopes beyond the rear walls.

[1:50:29] where it is introduced landscaping and then there is a straight line where it is all the sudden it's

[1:50:37] needed material. To the layman to me it looks idiotic. Those things we cannot get through to the

[1:50:45] conservancy that those seem inappropriate. They're really no brainers as far as we're concerned and they

[1:50:53] probably think just the opposite to us that why can't we see that what they're trying

[1:50:59] to do.

[1:51:00] And we know they're trying to protect the vernal pools, but the association continues

[1:51:03] to have problems with getting them out to do the fire, fuel modification.

[1:51:11] When I was called the last year, I said just go ahead and do it.

[1:51:15] Just do it.

[1:51:16] You need to protect your homes.

[1:51:18] And when the conservancy has a problem, send them to the city.

[1:51:22] How did this affect the bond exoneration?

[1:51:25] It doesn't, but that's your answer to your question about the Bernal Pools.

[1:51:30] These bonds do not cover the Bernal Pools.

[1:51:32] That is a totally separate, separate issue, and it has been fully funded by Lanar.

[1:51:37] They've funded the $100,000, and I think it's the $20,000, and they have a 12-year period

[1:51:42] that they have to go through, and they're about almost halfway through that period.

[1:51:46] We've monitored each year, and they've provided us reports each year.

[1:51:50] we've had them checked by biologists and the biologists agree, so I think it's unfortunate

[1:51:58] this is not the best design for a Bernouc pool and development.

[1:52:04] No, well, you won't get any argument for me on that one, but you know, if it will help

[1:52:11] to have me try to meet with you or whoever and the concerns you represent is to try to at

[1:52:19] At least come to a meeting of the minds, I will, but I have a feeling that it may be

[1:52:24] the issue of not having back-to-back ornamental native.

[1:52:33] We talk about transitional to natural areas, and it's probably something like that because

[1:52:40] it's a key thing with respect to the ecosystem.

[1:52:44] That's without even having asked anybody, that's what my guess is.

[1:52:47] Well, there are a variety of issues and I don't think there's just one particular issue or one particular answer to it, but I've always been able to find a middle ground.

[1:52:56] There is no middle ground. It was no. We are not going to consider any changes.

[1:53:01] We're right. You're wrong. End of story. I'd be happy to.

[1:53:05] Well, we don't have to talk about it now, but we should probably offline get a chance to talk about this and see what the issue is and see if there's some written plan that they're following

[1:53:13] or some set of guidelines that perhaps are not sharing with you or something like that that might be able to make it clear.

[1:53:22] I'll meet with you and we can see what we can do.

[1:53:26] Mr. Van Dammeer.

[1:53:28] It's not as much an ornamental versus natural vegetation.

[1:53:32] The HOA, which serves 534 homes, is relatively clear on what areas can and cannot be planted.

[1:53:41] that's not in dispute, we're not arguing that fact.

[1:53:44] Where it ties into the grading and drainage issues,

[1:53:49] is that there are areas that the plant material

[1:53:54] has not fully developed over years.

[1:53:58] And we have, there are drainage issues.

[1:54:00] We need to replant those areas with what's appropriate

[1:54:04] so that the runoff does not contaminate the rental pool

[1:54:07] in those other areas.

[1:54:09] That's where I believe this does come into the grading and drainage.

[1:54:13] We need clarification for that area on what can be planted to prevent unnecessary drainage

[1:54:23] into the rental pool.

[1:54:25] And that's where I see that it does up connection and I appreciate staff's research on this

[1:54:29] and look forward to additional research and getting this taken care of.

[1:54:33] We may have to come back then with this item.

[1:54:35] I think it's uncertain exactly the relationship of the grading and trail bonds to the

[1:54:41] Vernal Pool, so I would like to take at least till the next meeting of the council on this.

[1:54:50] So you can either be the other bonds are relatively minor but certainly those related to the grading

[1:54:56] and trails should be carried over.

[1:55:00] The first one, and is it just the first bond? The, the,

[1:55:09] we

[1:55:15] can probably exonerate. You can exonerate. I'm just going to read the last four numbers. I'm sorry. The last four numbers of the bond, 4211, which is for, it doesn't show it in the staff report, but those are related to the monuments for the tract itself. There's no relationship there.

[1:55:35] Okay. You're reading us that the last four numbers of the

[1:55:38] the bond that we can't exonerate. This one we can't. It's unrelated.

[1:55:47] 42-45 could be exonerated.

[1:55:51] That's related to streets. There's a lot of those.

[1:56:05] 42-37 is related to storm drainage not

[1:56:09] related to the burnals pool. Are those the only three? Yes. So you're suggesting that those would be

[1:56:18] I mean, the three that we could exonerate tonight and save the others for later.

[1:56:22] It's three, but I'm not taking any of that.

[1:56:24] Which is, but I'm not taking any of that.

[1:56:25] I think there might be more.

[1:56:28] Just those three?

[1:56:30] Yes.

[1:56:31] All right.

[1:56:32] Well then.

[1:56:32] Those three could be exonerated.

[1:56:35] Mr. Van Dam.

[1:56:36] I have nothing further.

[1:56:37] I agree that additional research should be done, try to get a clear definition of what's

[1:56:44] expected from the H.O.A., from the city, and from the Son of Monmouth Mountains.

[1:56:51] All in a tent of motion.

[1:56:52] I'll move that we exonerate only the bonds that end in 4237, 4245, and 4211, for what Mr.

[1:57:04] CUNY suggested, and that the others we bring back at a future date after the research and

[1:57:09] discussion has been done to see if there's something else, see if we have to hold them longer.

[1:57:14] Mr. Mayor.

[1:57:15] This is a point of discussion.

[1:57:17] The relationship and responsibilities have been somewhat dysfunctional up there in

[1:57:23] terms of people not understanding or not communicating.

[1:57:27] So I think Dr. Micah's offer to talk to the Conservancy much as my relationship with CalTrans

[1:57:32] where you have a certain level that is just doing something that you have decision-makers

[1:57:37] that have the ability to perhaps appreciate or see other sides because clearly some things

[1:57:42] This can be done out there, and I know that they've been done, for example, on the trimming.

[1:57:47] I talked to Joe one time, and it was trimmed back.

[1:57:50] They'd mark some plants very carefully, but it seems like there's some hardcore resistance

[1:57:54] at the lower staff level to any combination, so to the extent that we can at least get everybody

[1:58:01] or have a better understanding where we disagree, because I know Mr. Hogan has gone round and

[1:58:05] round on this as well, so I'll be appreciated.

[1:58:08] Good.

[1:58:09] The motions are a second.

[1:58:11] Second.

[1:58:12] Motion is second.

[1:58:12] Any further discussion?

[1:58:14] All in favor?

[1:58:15] Aye.

[1:58:16] Good objection, so ordered.

[1:58:18] We have no ordinances this evening.

[1:58:19] Item 12 is closed session.

[1:58:20] Mr. CUNY.

[1:58:21] No need for closed session.

[1:58:23] I want to attend a motion to adjourn.

[1:58:24] So move.

[1:58:25] Without objection.

City Council 2006 — REGULAR CC

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