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I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic
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for which it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible with liberty and
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justice for all.
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» And I brought these in case Brian didn't
have any. So,
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be official.
Okay.
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Let's go ahead with the the minutes.
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Ryan gets here
if I had time to look at them.
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» Yeah.
>> Approve as written.
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» Got a second.
>> Second.
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» Second. All in favor say I.
>> I.
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» Those same
claims.
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Uh move to approve.
>> Have a second.
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» Second.
>> Move a second. All in favor signify by
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saying I.
>> Same. Motion carried.
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» Mr. Bryan, can you do the honor?
>> The honor of swearing in Mr. Donald
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Clark. I will be happy to
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slower than usual. [laughter]
Raise your right hand or repeat after
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me, please. I, Donald Clark,
>> I, Donald Clark,
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» do solemnly swear
>> do solemnly swear
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» that I will support the Constitution
>> I will support the Constitution
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» of the United States
>> of the United States
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» and of the Constitution of the State of
Indiana
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» the constitution of the state of Indiana
>> and that I will faithfully discharge the
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duties of the office
>> I will faithfully discharge the duties
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of the office of the Morristown town
council
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» of Morristown town council
>> according to the law to the best of my
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skill to according to the law best of my
skill Perfect. Thank you. Down at
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Mortown on this 9th day of September,
2026.
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Sign right there, sir. Welcome aboard.
>> Thank you.
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» Welcome, Don.
>> Thank you.
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» This honest
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warned him.
>> I said I'll sit here cuz I'm not a
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quitter.
>> We warned him.
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[laughter]
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» Okay. [clears throat]
[laughter]
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Okay.
>> Old business is we've got the landlord
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registration candidate letter approval.
>> I think that's Mr. Brian.
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» Yeah. And I am behind the curve on that.
Uh Lane has been on me with
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justification.
I am concerned under the statute that we
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might not be able to recoup as much as
we might like uh for failure to
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register, but I will make that a
priority and have it quickly.
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Hey Elaine, please.
>> We'll do
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» Matt.
All right. All right.
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» Well, I'm Matt Lindell. I own lawn care
here in town. I was approached by some
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of you about maybe putting together a
plan for God's Hall.
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Kind of spruce it up a little bit. And I
kind of went off of what we had
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discussed, but just a kind of an idea to
get things going.
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Um, we went down there and measured it
out. There's, you guys know, it's not a
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huge area down there, but there's enough
room to play with to kind of spruce it
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up while still leaving some green area.
But, um, if you look at this, there's
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tried to leave the turf and, um, we
talked about maybe Christy and I talked
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about like kind of a little monument
area. We incorporated that. All the the
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the there's a patio, the middle part and
the monument area are all pavers and
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kind of class it up a little bit. You
could put I mean we could kind of go
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into the patio is what like a 25 by 15.
It's it's not huge just cuz you're
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limited by the space, but it's enough
for two or three picnic tables. And if
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you wanted to, you could put like
beastro lights and things and kind of
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» Is that the flag pole?
>> Charm. Yep, that's the flag pole. That
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little black dot, that's the existing
flag pole. thought maybe put the
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monument near it, but I mean there's not
it's simple, but it's classy, but it's
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it would look nice coming down the hill.
Um, like I said, that's just kind of a
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starting point. It's kind of landscaping
is one of those things you can I mean,
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you could do 10,000 other swings. I
mean, you can put lighting packages in
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it. You can put nicer plants, more
plants, bigger plants. You can put in
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multra rock. I mean, it's kind of a,
you know, getting ahead of this.
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» [cough]
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» We we tried to we're leaving like the
out there the main leaving the original
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sidewalk along 52 to not be encroaching
up on the state easement and everything
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and left the concrete along the building
but other than that tore out all the old
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the rest of the concrete's getting
pretty
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» ready
>> getting pretty ready in there so we're
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ripping most of that out.
>> Does this have any wheelchair
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accessibility
>> this? Well, so that patio, if you look
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out by the road, there's a step cuz
there's quite a grade difference. But
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the back, if if you leave the sidewalk
along Dod's Hall, there's already a
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ramp. It looks like it's fairly recent
in the last 10 years.
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» Should go right into it.
>> Yep. And that would you could get to the
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patio from that by leaving that. Um the
monument would go straight in. So
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[clears throat] everything would be
everything as far as the landscaping
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would be
accessible. Um, I know Dodge's Hall we
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discussed kind of is going to need a
ramp on its own, but I don't think
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you're probably getting it from the
front. As we discussed, it's probably
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that's probably a more of a construction
down the side. So,
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it is accessible the patio from the
back, but like I said, I know there's a
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little bit of play here with what you
would do depending on what direction you
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take God's Hall with the historical
thoughts.
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Um,
>> no.
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I think
>> like like I said, it's just kind of a
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touching point. I mean, things can
change. I mean,
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» I think it's important to keep some of
the green, not not make it all
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landscaped. Um because to have green
space in a in a town or city or pavement
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type environment,
you need that.
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» You could you could have picnic tables.
>> Yeah, there's room for three tightly two
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comfortably. I mean, two or three picnic
tables there. And like I said, they
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could have the umbrellas and you could
put the
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» shading would be really important. You
could do beastro lights on poles. You
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could do [clears throat] a pergola with
beastro lights on it if you want.
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» I was saying we could add add a pergola
in there. You could cover most of the
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patio.
>> I don't know how much night attraction
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you want to the building. It's becoming
the historical society, but of course
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during derby days, that's going to be a
hot spot. So I know that's two days out
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of the whole year, but
>> that's something. So but it it would
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pretty it up
>> and you can put landscape lighting and
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things in downtown better than having
some place to go.
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» They give the whole day downtown better
look.
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» Yeah, it would definitely catch your eye
as soon as you come especially. I mean
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it's I mean we incorporate you've got
you've got so you got the existing
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concrete got pavers there's boulders in
here there's there's flowers shrubs
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there's flowering trees
>> you install land manage it
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» Yep. Yep. We can do it all.
So
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» may I ask a question?
Would there be lighting on the American
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flag at night?
>> Yeah. Yeah. We'd put a light in no
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matter what on the flag through there.
And then like I said from there you
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could jump around. You could put more or
less lighting through the landscaping
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around the
>> It's got a light on the building.
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» It's got a light on it.
>> Does it right now out there? Yeah. But
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we could I said we could we could
incorporate one from the bottom up if if
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you wanted to.
But yeah, the flag would stay. The flag
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pole's pretty nice. So that would be the
flag pole is about the only thing. The
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front sidewalk, the back sidewalk, the
flag pole is about the only thing I'm
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keeping. If we
>> go keep those benches, you
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» Yeah, you can have them. I'll move your
house.
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» [laughter]
>> Yep, they were. [clears throat]
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So,
it's nothing. It's It's not It's not
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anything
over the top, but it's, you know,
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maintenance wise.
>> Yeah. I will say the turf on on this the
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turf like behind between the building,
the landscaping is probably a little bit
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exaggerated on the size on this. It
could probably be the turf would
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probably be just a t, you know, a touch
smaller, but it's just a pretty quick
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computer rendering came out.
So,
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um, other than that, that's a price
quote on this.
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» I I can I can give you an exact number
after we put the plants in, but I mean,
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it's kind of
>> I mean, do you want me to I don't know
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if you can put it I'll say if you're
going to put it out there or do you want
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me to spew out the number? I'll say yeah
there I can and it's one of those things
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I mean you can we could if you had a
budget in mind we could meet it because
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the patio is most the money on this
there's about 1,000 square foot of patio
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between all three of them and so it you
could tone that down and you could keep
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the center concrete if you wanted to and
that would cut a lot of cost and
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» I was just curious so we have an idea
>> I can get you I can actually send you
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the actual there
>> and then is this something you guys are
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thinking for like fall or is this
something we're taking for like spring?
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» That's like an ext
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[laughter]
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we can do whatever. We have we have room
all the time. So yeah,
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» we're always busy but some I mean that's
not it it's a big project but it's not
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like a
>> it's not two month project or anything.
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I mean it'd be two weeks probably kind
of thing.
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» So it's not you know and it's not going
to
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» get a price to see how much I'm going to
get a price
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more than a price.
>> I can do that and I can I'll give you
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the high side and the low side because
there are different like I said quality
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of pavers you can I mean it's probably a
$10,000 swing on just quality of
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» materials. Mhm.
>> So, and like I said, if you guys had a
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budget on it, we could stick to it and
move up and down.
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» I don't want to feel it cheap.
>> No, [laughter] put it in. Put it in.
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Right.
>> Right. Right.
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» Right. that can go bad and hurt me.
>> Yeah.
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» Yeah.
>> Okay. So, you're going to make a motion
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that we're going to get quotes
>> toward this. Okay. [clears throat]
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Get quotes from that.
>> Yep. And I can I can send that over this
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email to you. All
>> right. Motion carried.
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» I'll email that I'll email that to
Morgan this week. So, and I'll give you
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like I said, I'll give you I'll give you
a high on it. So, then you guys can talk
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» if it's too high or too low. It says
more fans in there.
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I still need to find out about
what we call solar street lights.
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» Lights.
>> So, actually I have the man here.
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[laughter]
Uh I'm subbing in or I'm pushing this
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off. So, no. So, actually this is
Patrick's job. He's a looks like a
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caveman, but he uh he knows what he's
doing with lighting. So what you run and
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operate a pretty successful um
electrical mechanical business in what
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Southport but he's moved Logan his
family's here now and so he's kind of
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getting into the community. What you
been here six seven years probably
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» I still don't know where they practice
more.
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» Still don't know where the soccer's he's
still trying to find it. That's why he
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was late looking for the soccer
practice. [laughter]
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» I take back home.
>> So
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» So you're at the park if it's for boys
and girls club.
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» So I didn't go that far. [laughter]
>> I found this place. They go, "Yeah, I
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got to be."
>> So, he um they've done quite a few
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street life projects. Lawrence, uh what?
Southport.
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» Well, Southport's active now, Franklin.
>> And then I did some scouting before the
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meeting, too. I looked around.
>> He would be here, man. Works with
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engineering companies, Wesler, all of
them. So, I will turn this part over to
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Patrick.
>> Yep.
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» Appreciate it.
He said the guy at Smart the guy in the
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back
but uh actually I got
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the
but I prepare this is kind of what to
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expect
um as you start playing with a state
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road since it is US 52. Um, and if you
guys don't kick me out of the meeting, I
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got a there's a trifold here. And for
me, this isn't about us kicking a
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project. It's about leading Morristown
in a good direction. So, you you make
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good choices with your street lights.
But, uh, I did a pretty hard survey at
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New Palestine. Don't hold that against
me.
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Um, and [clears throat] they were when I
got done after about a 2 and 1 half hour
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walk on up and down, you know, around
New Pal, I just they did a really good
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job. That's just a little bit about our
family business, but um, New Palestine,
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they did, you know, they
they did it right. Um, Matthew mentioned
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Wesler. We've worked with Wesler in in
the past. Um the the thing is is with as
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the page reads with a project like this,
you're you're you're dealing with a you
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know a state highway. So there's some
things I think we might have to to
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follow. the more I dug into my prep, I
mean, it' been great to say EM company
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could design, engineer, provide
fixtures, and go the whole way. But I
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just the more I looked into it,
especially with our electrical lead, um
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there's a little bit to it, but the the
nice we call her our den mom, um Matt's
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team, she said, "Keep KISS." So, I say
keep it simple, shall we? But in the in
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the grand scheme of things, it really
comes down to fixture selection of of
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what you guys want. And like like
Matthew said, we Franklin's have have
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stood the test of time. Uh D did a night
survey. So did I. We not only looked
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during the day, but we went and just
kind of saw oblong globes versus, you
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know, New Pal's more of a a top hat
globe. But I guess, you know, in the end
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of it all, um I feel like with our
history as a family business since 1969
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and and really for me it's it's just
kind of the passion that it looks take
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this the wrong way, but looks better
than the town next to us cuz you know
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New Pal's great but I just think you
could do better.
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» You think New has too many?
>> Well, so I [clears throat] measure she
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these over my texting because that's
kind of how I [laughter] I've been hit
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the head a few times. A couple rounds
went off behind my head. So that's how I
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operate. But the truth is, I want to
just throw this out. As I looked at
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Shelbyville final prep today, they
didn't hopefully this is in our town
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meeting here. We keep it in the vault.
They did not put enough pole base uh
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concrete. If you drive around the
circle, all the new lights in in
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Shelbyville on 9, they've already taken
what's called wind sway or directional
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sway. If you guys just pee, don't you
know, but it's I almost see a 16 sauna
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tube and we won't do that because in in
our prep I all that will be done by
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Longville L or Lynville lawn care as far
as underground concrete prep. But eman,
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we always go to skew more with our bases
just for the duration and the test of
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time because it just pointed itself out
when I did my little cuz I've been
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trying to come up with at least three
samples for this meeting, but I'm a
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little I guess I'm just trying to get
the right fit. And [clears throat] also
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PLS's who we've used in the past, they
don't come off fixture numbers unless
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you give them pretty finite selections,
which I've already talked to the team
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about it. You you want a receptacle up
high for seasonal, you know, decor. We
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definitely want a military monitor. I
love what you've done with the bands,
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but we can adopt that to the pole
lights. Um, another big thing is there's
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there's always the the back flag.
Obviously, you guys want some form of a
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flag on these, but there's just a couple
selections that I would highly from our
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history of other, [clears throat] you
know, street projects, I would highly
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recommend. Um, I guess the other thing
too is we're not going to underdo the
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concrete. Uh, hopefully you have a local
borer cuz EM company doesn't we usually
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sub out our boring and if there would be
a local contractor that would want to do
[16:57]
some underground poly boring. And then
also as I pre-erveyed Morristown,
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there's a lot of um open grass that he
that the well the hope is is that you
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guys are going to be beautify to where
it doesn't all have to be poly
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underground. It can be open sight dig.
So the big thing that we will do is we
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will have redundancy of conduit.
Therefore, I already when I went by new
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pal, there's two with cones on it
because unfortunately,
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um, as the as our boss in the back
corner knows, accidents happen. So, we
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also would want to buy a percentage of
what we would consider an excess
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fixture. So, we could have we usually do
10%. even though you you think you get a
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good relationship and yes, we'll we'll
make sure you get that cast stamp
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fixture again when it breaks in seven
years, we usually we purchase some some
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some saving fixtures. Um
I think that was kind of the highlights
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of what I have, you know, kind of looked
at and felt would be important. And you
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know, in the in the end of all this,
you don't have to do it all at once. We
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can start in phases. there's there's you
know it kind of comes down to for this
[18:10]
project um just you know what you guys
are wanting to do and the coverage of
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the town which I mean we we have an
intent that follows you know the span of
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New Palestine which is about I think the
measurement was like 3,800 ft was was
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kind of what I was measuring in New was
44 fixtures in New and to answer your
[18:30]
question at first I thought there was
too many but when you go and you
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actually look at it And it's the reason
I'm bringing new pal up is it's the
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easiest for all of us to just pop over
there at night just let me get a flavor
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and then you go down nine in in Shelby
Kentucky and then you get that flavor.
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But the point is is the span's pretty
good. Like it's it's really what's
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called takeback. So from from a street
to the um you know to basically where
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the light is, you want a distance of
where you're going to have a turn
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radius, but also you want throw and
coverage until you get to the next
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light. So you're covering you're in and
essent and and you know outgress of all
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of your of your street like corners and
roads because you have so many. It's
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just, you know, really I think the the
takeback point was anywhere from 12 to
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22 feet. But again, New Pal's smart.
They went where they had grass. They
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didn't tear up all of their sidewalks.
They were very valuegineered when they
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did their segways and they had uh new
red pads for for foot travel. They just
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they had a plan. And and I talked to um
his name's Jim Robinson. He he takes
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care of the new Palestine, you know, up,
you know, I guess the whole town. And
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they they had their own civil plan. They
did their own design. But I guess, you
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know, for for when you go either boring
or doing directional sight dig on your,
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you know, on the side of your town, you
want to think about landscaping and
[20:06]
sidewalks. And you you want to do it in
unison because it's going to help the
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project because anything you take up you
want to put back in a in a beautified
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manner or pour concrete and have a nice
sidewalk that that covers over. But
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anyway, um it's not our first rodeo. We
would love to lead help lead more, but
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really I was just trying to get to get
you guys on a pace where it it's not
[20:31]
it's a very straightforward project. It
just I do believe as Matthew mentioned,
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Wesler included would be a big benefit
to to the fact that we have to get some
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stuff that's stamped and approved
through the state. But anybody
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» Franklin looks really good.
>> And it it's funny the first ones I sent
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them and I I said to him these it's 20
years. I think it's 17 18 years and even
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New Palestine blew my mind
[clears throat] cuz the nice lady who
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gave me Jim's name she goes I've been
working here 6 years and then Jim on the
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phone said 12 or 13 but he just bought
two new ones. That's why it's the
[21:08]
perfect storm over here guys. I keep
talking about new pal, but it's they had
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done it 12 years ago and they just
bought two of the exact pictures. So, it
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gives you an idea that it is possible to
to have a 12-ear span and still they're
[21:23]
waiting basically for the cast aluminum
to be made. So, they still have the
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cast, which that's what my relation our
relationship with PLS is. But I mean I
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we still buy in a percentage of excess.
Um because before you know it, somebody
[21:37]
sees it and then there's another idea
and you're out of excess because you
[21:41]
guys are like, "Hey, can we plant five
more?" This is this is where we've done
[21:44]
this before. But you have to have a
budget and you have to have a a first
[21:48]
phase in mind. And again, you can see
the phases on the back of what's
[21:52]
actually going to be required just to
dig. but uh or or to to call the dig as
[21:57]
Matthew always says, he doesn't put a
shovel on the ground until, you know, he
[22:00]
calls 811 and gets his markings. But as
any good landscaper should, right? But
[22:07]
uh I guess for us though, um I think
that's I mean about it. It's just, you
[22:12]
know, 44 was what my count was for New
Palestine. They do not have to be, you
[22:18]
know, ex-military. So identic for me is
having, you know, but the the it's a
[22:25]
two-lane road here. Franklin is a four
>> two two each way and there's turn
[22:31]
segways in Franklin. So that's why in
Franklin you'll see I think they're 16,
[22:36]
but they're ds. So in certain areas
you'll have dual heads and then but
[22:41]
you're you're really you can't compare
Franklin. You can compare the fixture
[22:45]
style and and that's a what we call our
Cadillac fixtures, but it's a different
[22:51]
throw. So, you have a different but here
in Morristown, you can very well go down
[22:56]
one line or if buildings get in the way
and boring's just becoming
[23:02]
too expensive or not an option, just
like in New Palestine, segue to the
[23:06]
other side and do a single down there.
It's it's really what the town what what
[23:11]
we vote on. But again, you know,
Lynville, Long Care, and IA, we can lead
[23:16]
in a good good manner. I I spent a
little time because again, I drive
[23:20]
through town and we spend a lot of time
coming to Morristown. So, I told
[23:25]
Matthew, I go, "So far, I've been out
here six years and nobody's burning any,
[23:29]
you know, no stakes and I haven't had
any pigs at my house. So, I don't want
[23:32]
to I don't want you guys coming to get
me now."
[23:35]
» Well, I know anywhere I go in the state,
Franklin will always come up. Well,
[23:40]
» when it comes to this kind of stuff,
they have changed that town
[23:43]
» and it's because they've been there for
that's probably one of in our market
[23:47]
south because I'm originally from the
south side, east side really, but south
[23:51]
side. Um, it's probably the oldest and
and I feel like they selected a very
[23:57]
very solid fixture. They they paid for
them. I mean, they're not, you know,
[24:01]
they those there too. Um, and you see in
New Palestine,
[24:06]
there's constant upkeep. I mean, they
have to black paint the bottoms. I mean,
[24:10]
snow throw. Yeah, we will think about
these things where New Pal didn't.
[24:14]
There's our two types of the snow throw
line. We will step back 16 inches
[24:18]
matters, but it again, you would think
center square. No, it's there's there's
[24:23]
a reason why you're setting your lamps
where you are, but really snow throw and
[24:28]
random accidents and, you know, pe
people not paying attention, that's
[24:32]
that's part of beautifying your town.
That that's going to happen. So, but uh
[24:37]
the best part though is
I told them I'm looking at new pal, but
[24:42]
this is wash. Um
more if if we're a part of this
[24:46]
Morristown will look better than than
any especially Shelbyville. Nothing
[24:50]
against a big tap big town like
Shelbyville, they they did they they
[24:53]
underpor their bases and and it's
apparent cuz that stuff's not even I
[24:58]
don't know. You guys probably know
better than me. It's not a year. No,
[25:01]
it's I don't even think we're talking
months. for 90 days and it's just the
[25:05]
wind and we've gotten a considerable
amount of wind and rain in the last few
[25:08]
months. So because they didn't overpour
their bases the the as he knows the the
[25:14]
wet line and shell is rough because it's
very wet and and the water line is
[25:19]
crazy. But the point is is there's
canered poles and the thing is is once
[25:23]
they caner it doesn't stop. It will
always so paying I mean I'm talking
[25:30]
peanuts more for an additional base
where where we have the allowabilities
[25:35]
is a big is a big thing for our contract
but and and again this is just a
[25:40]
planning meeting. I just wanted to
get you and Christie on there. Won't you
[25:45]
put Don? We're going to let you guys get
together and see what you come up with.
[25:49]
» That'd be great.
>> Okay.
[25:52]
» I know originally [clears throat] um
when you brought this up, solar was
[25:58]
brought up and I'd like for you to speak
that and why we're not leaning in that
[26:04]
direction. We're just we're just
internet surfers. So we [laughter]
[26:10]
» may not be the best.
>> If that was first brought up, I think
[26:13]
that's an important point.
>> German Irish.
[26:16]
» Yeah, I'm German Irish, not Russian. So
when Greg When Greg Shab speaks, you
[26:20]
listen in my household. That's the CEO
of EM. I probably should introduce I'm
[26:24]
the janitor, but also the executive vice
president. Um I don't let that I don't
[26:28]
let that out much cuz I really like to
work for a living, but so don't let the
[26:32]
title fool you. But we can't do this job
unless we tie into local power because I
[26:39]
cannot guarantee you those will light
through our dark winters. And the last
[26:43]
thing I'm going to want to do is put
EM's name on a product that I can't
[26:47]
guarantee you is going to light every
night 365, especially on the nights
[26:52]
where we have an anomaly of darkness.
Now, do you want to consider topfed, you
[26:59]
know, uh street sign like new pal? just
go for a good ride. They did it right,
[27:04]
guys. Like I said, the the the red
Segway safety pads, the canered uh level
[27:10]
of all their concrete because they had
to dig it up to put the pole bases in,
[27:14]
so they put it back, right? The point is
is uh every single one of their and and
[27:20]
uh [clears throat] Carlton in the back
will appreciate this, but every one of
[27:24]
their signs is LED fed, so everything's
brand new. They worked with somebody.
[27:28]
They got a grant. There's some
additional things cuz it's DOT, but
[27:31]
everything's brand new. Everything has a
top fed solar, so it's got LEDs that are
[27:36]
it's just safer for people who are
staring at their phone and being
[27:38]
distracted even on a uh hit me if I'm
wrong, it's 25 on Main Street or 30 30 m
[27:45]
an hour on Main Street, sir. Yeah. So,
really, you shouldn't be worried, but it
[27:49]
just it looks good because not only is
the street lights done, all their signs
[27:53]
are done, all their walkways are safe,
and then also it's just clean. I mean,
[27:58]
they clean their landscaping and their
their Segways up, but the reason that we
[28:03]
don't want to do solar and Greg doesn't
we don't want to touch the job unless we
[28:06]
get tie in to power is because the
guarantee. So, and then also we're a
[28:12]
service company. We do about it's about
17 million a year. We do about 67 in
[28:17]
commercial services and then 9 million
in contracts. We want to we want to
[28:22]
build something that you're happy for
for a year and warranty it, but we want
[28:25]
to keep you for 25 30 years. So, and in
in the end though, we can't guarantee
[28:30]
solar will be 100%, you know, active.
So, that's just not something that we
[28:37]
would put our company name on. It's a
great idea. I understand it. I see a
[28:42]
bunch of solar panels when I come to and
from my house, but they're not for this
[28:46]
application.
MQ3 gave him and Matt and brings back
[28:52]
something with the cost and stuff.
>> Yeah, we could get into budgetary cost
[28:58]
estimates, but Wesler would be a part of
that and just selections, but really,
[29:02]
[clears throat]
you know, we we've seen this before and
[29:06]
we feel like we could lead you guys in a
in a good direction. So, is there any
[29:09]
other questions that you guys got on it?
[laughter]
[29:14]
Well, uh, I'll leave my cell phone if
you guys want to talk or
[29:18]
» very good. Appreciate it.
>> Thank you very much.
[29:25]
» You guys, anything else?
>> Okay, I'm going to jump ahead here.
[29:30]
We'll bring Brian Shehan.
[29:35]
He's going to explain [clears throat]
our CCMG grant, what we need to do. So,
[29:40]
it's due the 23rd, you said.
>> Yeah. Um, I wanted to check. Uh,
[29:46]
I know Scott has been working back and
forth. Um, I I I know sending some
[29:52]
emails, working with Craig, trying to
come up with you're you're in this um
[29:58]
this period of time was a little bit
back and forth. One, he's needing to
[30:01]
hear a final number that you have for
match. If you remember last year, we
[30:06]
came up with a number and from that
number, then they can do the math to
[30:09]
say, okay, you have this much per
project because it's 25% match. Um,
[30:15]
» so the most the most you go after is a
million dollars uh of of grant, which
[30:20]
would be 250,000 a match. So, if you
think uh about that there, he sent out
[30:26]
an email, and I'm I'm sorry, I do not
have a copy, but I'm going to give you
[30:29]
some some quick details. Basically, they
go out and they do um an asset
[30:35]
management plan. They come back, they
look at the score, give your roads, and
[30:38]
then they make a recommendation. And I
think there's some back and forth there.
[30:41]
Um but uh they have Rangeline Road,
Central Parkway to East 1100 North.
[30:48]
That's 2800
um
[30:52]
yeah
2,800 somethings.
[30:56]
Uh that is probably feet. And that total
takes you to uh 661,000 which has a
[31:05]
match of 132,000. So that's just that
one that one section. Then Washington
[31:12]
Street they cut into three different
pieces so that if you need to
[31:17]
kind of u ratchet your your spend up or
down. Uh they have washing street town
[31:24]
limits to chestnut that was uh the
quantity is 2862 for 200 and a total of
[31:31]
226,000
the match being 45,000.
[31:35]
The next section was 583.
Um that's 61,000 with a 12,000 match.
[31:42]
And then the last one was 637
ft at 74,000 match at 14,000. So if you
[31:51]
agreed with those roadways and if you
agreed with the total amount that is
[31:54]
being suggested that is a total project
of a million24 with a total match of
[32:00]
204,86525
>> and we did 200,000 last year since she
[32:06]
had
>> we did that last year. I figure we just
[32:08]
move forward the same.
>> But we just went to the
[32:14]
our redevelopment meeting and can we use
the payment fund and the we have or no
[32:20]
is that
>> you put on the range
[32:22]
» on the range that's
>> okay
[32:25]
» industrial
>> but you also got a waste water plant
[32:28]
build and water plant build. Right.
>> And that would make more sense for Tiff,
[32:33]
» right?
>> Monkey should participate in rank saying
[32:38]
grants, you know, like can we use that?
That's
[32:42]
» Cody Dave. We just need to give him
another
[32:45]
» submit number, but we could go ahead and
do this. It has to be done the 23rd. So,
[32:51]
» and what will really happen here is like
if you wanted some back and forth, we
[32:54]
can do that. The number one thing that
we need to do that might need to happen
[32:58]
before the next meeting is if you said
um this is where it gets a little
[33:03]
confusing so I want to make sure if you
were to say we can go up to 210,000 or
[33:09]
two whatever it is
>> and give him the permission to sign that
[33:13]
financial commitment letter that's
really all that that we're there there
[33:17]
will be a letter where you need to
commit to that. So if you can commit to
[33:20]
more than that you can obviously do less
um if that makes sense. Uh if you like
[33:26]
what's being proposed, then you can make
your motion to be exactly that number
[33:29]
and we're good to go. And uh when when
uh Scott gets back, I think he is out
[33:36]
the rest of this week, but early next
week, he's going to be trying to wrap
[33:39]
these up. So that's the one major step
that you need to do. Last year, you did
[33:43]
the ordinance that allows um Ralph or
whomever is the president to make that
[33:49]
signature. So you don't have that that
got us in trouble uh at the last second
[33:53]
last year.
But that's that's really the main thing.
[33:56]
So, if you wanted all all four of those
segments that I just mentioned and you
[34:01]
wanted to do um uh a motion that would
allow uh Ralph to sign a commitment
[34:08]
letter of $24,86525
>> up to 205.
[34:13]
» Yep. If you wanted to do that, then I
think we would be covered. The only
[34:17]
reason I was saying like if you still
wanted to to work back and forth with
[34:21]
Scott and know that you forgot one
little segment here or whatever if you
[34:25]
went higher. Um but if you're hoping to
stay around 200 it sounds like they
[34:29]
aimed at that for you.
>> Can we buff it? Can we buffet it to 210
[34:33]
just to save our so back and forth?
>> That's not a huge difference from last
[34:37]
year I would think. So
>> that'll be my motion to go forward with
[34:40]
what they've got offered and if we need
a little buffer. So up to 210
[34:44]
» up to 210 to give us the buffer just in
case something comes up.
[34:50]
[clears throat]
>> Second we do the match up to 210,000
[34:54]
» giving the president the authorization
to sign the commitment.
[34:58]
» That's what we do. Okay.
>> Okay. That's what we want to do.
[35:01]
» Your motion second Dave
move second. All in favor signify say I.
[35:07]
» Oppos same. Motion carries. And
[clears throat] I apologize since we
[35:10]
have a new a new representative of a
haunted chair. Uh [laughter]
[35:15]
CCMG is basically community crossing
matching program. You can do it once a
[35:18]
year and it allows you to get 75% of the
project paid for by the state. Um so
[35:23]
it's pretty sweet deal, but it's also
very competitive. Last year we did get
[35:28]
the first time they came up some new
money. We got back in. Um but if for
[35:32]
some reason we aren't successful, all of
our work can move on to the next
[35:37]
application. So, it is something that
kind of keeps moving on, but um
[35:42]
» the thing for the town.
>> Yeah.
[35:45]
» Um with that,
>> what's up over here?
[35:50]
» So, we we talked a little bit about
that. Unfortunately, I was not able to
[35:53]
get with our guy today. He he just left
um for a two-day trip, but
[35:59]
knowing from my past experience, we I
think you dug in a little bit. They're
[36:03]
they're usually have a date that they
can that they have to have that
[36:06]
completed by.
>> Thought they hid that already.
[36:10]
» That part I'm I'm not sure cuz I didn't
have that with me. But if if they do not
[36:15]
hit that,
>> it's got two dates on it. That's where I
[36:18]
was confused. It's got September 25th
and it's got October.
[36:22]
» So it says it is agreed time limit for
substantial completion of this agreement
[36:26]
based on bid shall be the 25th day of
September. Um it is agreed final
[36:31]
completion. So final should be there's
just a few things we got to finish up
[36:35]
here and there.
>> What will happen with a lot of these and
[36:38]
I I I don't know this specifically but
I'm just speaking in large picture
[36:43]
» is they will have several jobs. If they
get ahead a little bit they'll pop over
[36:48]
and try to get caught up on another job.
Where they get most concerned is when it
[36:54]
says uh for each calendar day work is
not complete, a sum of $1,000 overrun
[37:00]
will be um deducted. So you do have a
you do have a penalty phase in here if
[37:06]
they don't hit that. My guess is you'll
see them jump back and and fulfill the
[37:11]
the end of this agreement.
On the flip side, if you were to say,
[37:16]
well, we should have had we should
tighten the schedule. We should have had
[37:18]
rougher penalties. What that typically
does is it raises your bids if they get
[37:24]
too tough. So, I'm dealing with a
different and I was I I was incorrect,
[37:28]
different company in Batesville,
>> but they're dealing with the same thing.
[37:31]
And there's is is a major road that
someone has pulled off of and they're
[37:38]
working to get them back. Well, they can
see the truck names in other places. Uh
[37:43]
that one of them happens to be the
interstate, which is like the estate
[37:46]
project uh that's going on. Uh, but this
is the key thing you want to watch is
[37:50]
for this date. I will get some followup
and get some um information back to
[37:55]
Ralph as far as the communication for
that. Um, because there likely is
[38:00]
communication, but I know in the one I
just followed up with, as I said, in a
[38:03]
different community. It basically came
back. We're on schedule. We'll have it
[38:08]
done. But unfortunately, they've not
been at that job site.
[38:12]
» It won't take them long to finish.
>> A couple weeks.
[38:14]
» No, that's what kills me. I said, this
looks like it's ready to go. you still
[38:17]
got people can't get out of traffic
>> and I drove by probably
[38:22]
» three weeks ago [clears throat]
>> and it looked pretty similar but the one
[38:29]
it's the toughest part of this system is
you can't force them to go faster than
[38:34]
what's as our legal friend here will
tell you if they if they're legally
[38:39]
following that and then the next part is
that penalty phase which is I've said in
[38:42]
most cases you don't want them paying a
penalty because it's already a giant
[38:47]
paying for those people and um about a
thousand bucks
[38:52]
uh a day then would
would uh begin kicking in. But I will I
[38:57]
will get you what our communication with
them has been and what they're saying.
[39:02]
Um I just want to be real realistic that
if it says that date, they've got until
[39:08]
that date. If they show up and do all
the work and 24-hour period, there's not
[39:12]
much that can be done about it. The real
trick is next year if you if you want to
[39:19]
address that where you need to do it is
at the very beginning and you talk about
[39:23]
that and you put in whether it's more
fines you move your date or you can
[39:27]
actually put into your bids you're going
to keep driveways open like there there
[39:30]
are things that
>> I think we should have put in there
[39:32]
about keeping driveways open. I mean my
mom yeah okay I got a personal thing in
[39:37]
this. My mom's driving through her yard.
Oh my gosh, she's got accessibility to a
[39:41]
service drive, but there's other people
don't.
[39:45]
They're landlocked.
>> And you can absolutely put some things
[39:47]
into play just just be care. I had a
different community that had something
[39:51]
similar like this and they got really
tough to try to hit a date and they had
[39:54]
to rebid it twice before they got
anybody to take them up on it. And then
[39:57]
they they they let the rules um slide a
little bit so that they could finally
[40:02]
get somebody to bid on it. So, it is
it's a very tricky situation. Sometimes
[40:06]
you're the driver, sometimes you're the
>> And some of it is operations cuz they
[40:11]
could they could make those driveways a
lot more accessible.
[40:14]
» All you got to do is turn.
>> And and again, here's one of those where
[40:18]
if if it's a certain type of project and
you get to pick your uh your contractor,
[40:23]
I can I can name in in my past
employment two or three that
[40:27]
communication is the best thing they do.
And you know, so if they got close and I
[40:32]
had a chance, I wanted the one that was
going to clearly communicate that, get
[40:36]
out and talk to the the customer, but
that's not always the case. But I will
[40:40]
dig in, find out exactly where we are
and what they're saying and get you
[40:45]
» get that information.
>> Okay. Anything else?
[40:48]
» All right. Thank you.
[40:54]
» Uh, new business in your packets. Lane
got this. It's on the Howie two south.
[41:04]
It's really growed up it looks like
and she's wondering who's liable for
[41:09]
that. That's something probably we need
to to look into and see.
[41:16]
» Is that I mean
>> that's where Lane's Will Helms Lane's
[41:21]
moment pass an hour there.
>> All that graph is an hour.
[41:27]
» Okay. Mhm.
Now we have an easement one and two. So
[41:33]
» now easement and alley be two different
things.
[41:35]
» Yeah.
>> Do we have that on a map that tells us
[41:39]
it's a eman or an alley?
[41:46]
Can you look at that for
[41:51]
two sides?
[42:19]
Is this what they're calling the alley?
>> That's the impression I'm getting. That
[42:23]
that green space. When when I look at
these photos, and I'm not familiar with
[42:28]
it, but the photos
cause [clears throat] in my mind more
[42:32]
confusion than
uh
[42:42]
» that that alley actually goes west. That
was part of debated several years ago.
[42:48]
It goes west from uh that alley E2. It
actually continues west, goes down the
[42:55]
hill behind those houses.
>> Dead end.
[43:00]
» Well, it actually turns into our
contested alley that runs south of Mor
[43:06]
Street
[43:11]
» because it's technically a continue all
the way through. I don't know if it was
[43:15]
ever officially abandoned,
but uh if you look there where the
[43:21]
pointer is, that's your alley two. Then
it goes down the hill and then it turns
[43:27]
into
the next alley.
[43:34]
» Wonder why that was never followed
through.
[43:37]
» Yeah, it comes off of Jackson and then
it just goes it goes to the west.
[43:41]
currently is stops at E2, but yeah,
there's a telephone pole there and then
[43:47]
um it just keeps going west
[43:52]
turns into this is our contested alley
right here,
[43:59]
but it yeah, it technically goes all the
way through here.
[44:02]
Okay,
>> and Shepard's has a garage real close to
[44:07]
it. And then um
the other one
[44:14]
was there situation with the neighbor
there where they don't want anybody on
[44:18]
the
[44:23]
» and then you got that bridges rental at
22080 Johnson the north side of that
[44:28]
their property line goes into the alley
[44:34]
and then uh this is Fishes is
here's a question. Can we change that
[44:40]
into an easement and then maintain it?
It sounds like you need to maintain it
[44:45]
anyway cuz it's infringing on other
people. But if it's a if it's a an
[44:49]
easement, you just have to maintain it
as an ement.
[44:52]
» The only thing in there the electric
>> I see electric. That's all.
[44:59]
» There's a water switch.
>> Look at it. You want to look at it?
[45:03]
» Yeah, I'll go look at it.
>> Well, you got time. Why don't you take a
[45:06]
look at it and Dave?
>> Let me take a look at it. See what we
[45:10]
got to work with.
>> I'm not sure what you mean by turn it
[45:13]
into an ease.
>> Change it from alley. Just changes.
[45:16]
» Well, I know I mean I know what you're
saying. Let me rephrase.
[45:20]
» Instead of having I mean if we're
calling it an alley, I don't know why
[45:24]
it's not paid. I'm thinking it it looks
more as an easement because of the
[45:27]
telephone. It still needs to be cleaned
up cuz it's I would say it's town. I
[45:33]
don't know. I'm sure talked about the
testing for years.
[45:36]
» The telephone poles are um
enlightening
[45:41]
cuz under state statute a public utility
can place [clears throat] its
[45:46]
infrastructure in public right away
uh without any further approvals or
[45:52]
anything like that. Now, an easement is
created by a grant of the so-called
[45:59]
dominant
user by the subservient user. So, if you
[46:06]
were going to try and create this as an
easement, you're going to have to have
[46:10]
all the adjoining and abuing land owners
consent to that.
[46:15]
Um, the question in my mind, and I have
no idea what the answer is, but I'm sure
[46:20]
there's something that reveals.
How was the alley ever platted on any
[46:28]
maps of the town at some point in the
past?
[46:32]
» We'd have to look at it and see. Don't
worry.
[46:34]
» Well, if you want to make it even more
confusing, if you look to the right of
[46:38]
East Jackson, in between all the houses,
there's no man's land. also that bumps
[46:44]
up to um Harbor
[46:50]
that's in between over this area right
here. This is all no man's land
[46:56]
that just everybody kind of takes
care of. But I know at one time it was
[47:03]
been an alley. What was
>> is that the alley that runs right into
[47:08]
the garage?
>> Uh no.
[47:10]
» Okay. No, this is the one. Uh, let's
see. 204 South Jackson. Their driveway
[47:17]
is actually part of this alley or well,
it was an alley at one time right
[47:22]
through here. Well, I'm not sure some of
these were ever actually.
[47:29]
» I remember having a conversation about
this year's
[47:34]
house on the original plot and see what
>> that would be.
[47:42]
» I would say trying to get the group of
neighbors to agree to something right in
[47:46]
that area.
>> Why don't we do that before we go up
[47:49]
there?
>> Yeah. I mean, if it's shown on a plat of
[47:53]
the town, [clears throat]
then that was created as a fellow right
[47:59]
away.
>> There's a really old map hanging on my
[48:01]
wall with streets and alleys and stuff.
That too in that room in there, too.
[48:06]
» I had see if I can't look it up. If you
guys want just look at that, see what
[48:10]
you think. get back with us
and we'll I'll get have Wayne get in
[48:17]
contact with this lady
with the mayor. So,
[48:24]
» is that all right there, buddy?
>> Yeah.
[48:26]
» Okay. Uh
I'm going to read this under new
[48:30]
business. This is reservations from
Donnie on the planning commission. Says,
[48:36]
"I cannot serve with people I do not
trust. I quit."
[48:41]
D. So,
we're going to be voting for a Democrat
[48:46]
to take that place.
[48:52]
» Okay.
>> Go from there. So,
[48:54]
» sounds like a personal issue.
[49:01]
» Cook treasure.
>> Um, I am attending the second must
[49:05]
meeting for lit tax next Wednesday.
[clears throat]
[49:08]
So, I will let you know how that goes.
Anything
[49:13]
else?
[49:17]
» Anything else? Morning.
>> Um, waiting to hear back from Brady. He
[49:21]
told me we are moving forward with the
same insurance that we currently have
[49:25]
for the October till December. Um, it's
currently at an 8% increase and then
[49:33]
he's going to get with me. I believe he
said end of October he should have the
[49:37]
new rates for what the should look like.
Um, but I want to have him meet with a
[49:43]
couple of our employees first to make
sure that it's still going to be
[49:46]
» beneficial.
>> Yes. If you guys are okay with that.
[49:50]
» Yeah. As long as we can take us right
down the wire without a problem.
[49:53]
» Yeah. I told him he had emailed me and
said 8% and I said keep that's what we
[49:57]
had agreed on to stay with what we have
so we don't restart their
[50:00]
» right
time.
[50:04]
» You know what I'm talking about.
Deductibles. Thank you. My somebody has
[50:07]
so we don't restart the deductibles. Um,
so he said by then he should have it
[50:13]
» um to meet with the guys.
>> Yeah.
[50:16]
» And if not, we'll stay at the 8% with
what we already have.
[50:22]
» That's it. Is
>> that it? Question for you. Did you have
[50:26]
you got the information on the new truck
yet?
[50:30]
» I haven't sent I haven't got the I have
the paperwork.
[50:34]
» Yes, but I don't have the plate yet.
>> Okay.
[50:36]
» And it's insured.
>> Okay.
[50:38]
I have a question, Morgan. We at our
redevelopment meeting, we discussed the
[50:44]
um
budget for 2027. So, we kind of just
[50:50]
wanted to make sure um that we were
>> the redevelopment one or the
[50:54]
» redevelopment. So, our like our last
year budget, we want to know about
[50:58]
keeping it the same or increasing it.
So,
[51:00]
» like the fire and correct.
>> Yes.
[51:03]
» Well, since we have two firemen, I would
love to get more.
[51:07]
But cuts up to whatever you guys the
spending plan that's what we were
[51:11]
talking about right so like we were
discussing too like the paving and then
[51:15]
we also kind of concerned about the
sewer repair in general
[51:20]
» yes and we need to um
>> I don't know if that's something we need
[51:23]
to do
>> I sent FSG I was going to say I had sent
[51:26]
you that email back they said well
talking they said we hadn't done a rate
[51:30]
studying in a while and they suggested
we do that so I think we need to get
[51:34]
with them and see if they can get that
taken care of.
[51:37]
» Okay.
>> Cuz he said we can't those questions you
[51:41]
asked, he couldn't give me an answer.
>> Okay. So, well, we kind of need to know
[51:45]
before the next meeting cuz we have to
have make sure that we have it done by
[51:48]
members.
>> Yes. Yes.
[51:52]
» Yes.
[51:58]
» Okay. Uh few things. Uh number one, the
uh IBM [clears throat] has proposed the
[52:06]
two dates for settlement conference
being September 21 or September 22. Um I
[52:12]
haven't heard back as to a preference on
those dates. That's a virtual meeting
[52:18]
which makes it easier. Um anyone can
participate from the council, but not
[52:25]
all need to participate. So, uh, if
[clears throat] there's more knowledge
[52:30]
as to which date might work best, let me
know. Uh, number two, and and this is
[52:37]
kind of a mortgage question or not a
question. Um,
[52:41]
AutoW Croner Associates
work through all of your issues on
[52:48]
building adjustments for major
industrial customers prim primarily for
[52:52]
process water. We've talked about this a
number of times.
[52:56]
You did you see the email from
yesterday?
[53:00]
» Yes. I have to respond.
>> Okay. Yeah. Cuz what needs to be done is
[53:05]
they have completed process water
calculations. I want to make sure that
[53:09]
that's
>> we are matched. Yep.
[53:10]
» Square. And then I can have someone from
Chrome uh Buzz Cone who's their
[53:15]
principal has a conflict for the next
meeting. But if you want to bring
[53:19]
someone in for in October to walk
through this, that would be an
[53:24]
appropriate agenda item. So
>> Bundy's was is okay. It was
[53:31]
Clausterman's wasn't
>> because Clustermans was supposed to be
[53:34]
sending me a number and they didn't send
it
[53:38]
» and then the guy I was working with
left.
[53:40]
» Okay.
>> So now we're working with a new guy.
[53:42]
Well, and if I'm not mistaken, I think
Bungie is gonna perhaps owe a
[53:47]
significant amount now.
>> Yeah.
[53:48]
» So,
um
[53:52]
then uh
I will catch up on the uh registration
[53:59]
rentals.
Um Christie had mentioned the IDM letter
[54:03]
that was revised. I asked in the letter
that they
[54:08]
uh provide assistance or assessment with
potential toxicity.
[54:14]
Um so I will keep you posted as to any
response I received.
[54:20]
And
again at tonight's redevelopment
[54:24]
commission we talked about use of RDC
funds for various matters. So if the
[54:30]
council can provide some direction to
the RDC as to
[54:34]
projects and priorities,
[54:38]
those are the major points.
>> I got a I got a couple of things. I am
[54:44]
wants to know about our our easement.
>> Yeah, I Okay, that's a Bungy question.
[54:50]
You provided me the contact information,
but I'm not getting a call back. So
[54:54]
» Okay.
>> And that's Cody.
[54:57]
» Cody, I just talked to him today. I'll
call them again. And also, how about the
[55:02]
land that they're get give us?
>> Again, their legal was supposed to be in
[55:08]
touch with me. Okay.
>> And I have not heard from them. I mean,
[55:12]
it's a fairly simple
>> uh process. I mean, I can put together
[55:18]
the papers and if Cody wants to try and
send
[55:21]
» you Have you got Cody's number?
>> I do because you provided the
[55:24]
» Okay. Won't you try calling tomorrow,
not send me a text? Cuz I've talked to
[55:29]
him twice today. So,
>> well, um,
[55:33]
» yeah, I've got his number cuz you sent
it to me
[55:36]
» cuz lady my name is She's really on the
>> to get it done.
[55:43]
Let me just confirm. I I know you sent
it to me.
[55:49]
I see the bruty
[55:54]
got cy in here too22362.
[56:09]
» Yep. 22236631.
[56:13]
And you gave me an email as well.
>> Yep.
[56:17]
I'll get an email off and follow up the
call.
[56:19]
» Okay. If you don't hear from me, let me
know.
[56:21]
» We'll do
anything else.
[56:25]
» I have a question. We discussed at the
last meeting the leade agreement
[56:28]
cancellization, but we Larry and I gave
obstain so we could vote on it. Um, and
[56:35]
it needs to be done before the end of
the year with 90 days. So, it would have
[56:37]
to be this meeting.
>> Yeah. So,
[56:41]
you we can do that. You didn't have a
quorum the last time with the extension.
[56:45]
So if you pass a motion, I'll get on
that immediately.
[56:48]
» So I'm going to make a motion to cancel
the leasing agreement for waste
[56:51]
management
to be by the end of the year.
[56:55]
» Let's do the automatic for the automatic
renewal.
[56:58]
» All right. I second that up, right?
>> So you're making a motion we cancel the
[57:04]
existing one.
>> Correct.
[57:06]
» And Brian will make a new one at the end
of the year. Well, and but we're going
[57:10]
to have to have input from IDM and it
will have to dovetail into our revised.
[57:16]
» Okay.
>> Ordinance.
[57:18]
» Okay.
>> Made a motion.
[57:22]
» Motion.
>> I second it.
[57:24]
» Okay.
>> Dave to abstain.
[57:28]
Been motion motion's been made. Second
to cancel the H8 agreement with waste
[57:34]
management
till Brian gets one made up. IDM and the
[57:39]
new stuff. So all in favor signify by
saying I
[57:43]
» oppos. Motion carried. Which one?
>> I got I
[57:54]
run Brian.
>> No.
[57:56]
» Okay. Police department.
>> Uh nothing really. We signed up for our
[58:02]
training. Uh Josh tended defensive
tactics day. got to mid rifle training
[58:06]
and signed up for the other training
that she approved last month. Pretty
[58:09]
much it.
>> Okay.
[58:24]
Give me one second here.
Brad, if you if you'll write this case
[58:30]
number down. I've been in contact with
the state. They approved our signs,
[58:36]
digital signs on 52
case numbers. Granny 0070
[58:46]
91 01. They're going either installment
to the end of this year or the first
[58:52]
next. So
>> are you talking the speed limit sign?
[58:59]
» Yeah, the digital one.
>> Okay.
[59:02]
» Yeah.
Okay.
[59:06]
Uh,
wastewater
[59:11]
streets. Dave, you I guess you talked to
Gary and Linda about this.
[59:16]
» Yeah. You want to
>> They come out and they done an overview
[59:20]
of the plant we have now and it's
already
[59:24]
» when the plant was built, it was built
for expansion.
[59:26]
» Yeah. So we talked about putting a ring
around the outer
[59:31]
» and that would double the capacity of
the plant or more and then taking one or
[59:36]
holding tank now putting a clarifier on
it instead of just a holding tank and
[59:40]
then put it up.
>> We could double the plant capacity just
[59:45]
with some concrete and different.
>> Are they going to give you an estimated
[59:48]
price on it?
>> Yeah, I told them price put together a
[59:51]
lot better than
>> Okay.
[59:55]
overhaul in the hole. Now, is there any
fallbacks from that from
[1:00:01]
Is there a stove pipe anywhere? Is that
just going to help us maintain its
[1:00:04]
company?
>> Well, like you said, it's called the
[1:00:07]
size ring you want to go around
>> big.
[1:00:09]
» Yeah, we could we could triple the size.
>> Say ginormous because just be prepared.
[1:00:15]
Who knows when somebody's going to
increase the process water and send it
[1:00:18]
down to what? And we still own all that
acreage to that side which we could run
[1:00:24]
some more pipes and do something else
again. So
[1:00:26]
» Okay.
>> Okay.
[1:00:28]
» Had to get you the price on today.
That's called
[1:00:31]
» another thing one that you'll remember
it's been a couple months ago that one
[1:00:36]
of the airators in the pond
went upside down and got tangled up.
[1:00:41]
They can't get the impella off the
motor. The motor's good.
[1:00:46]
Uh yeah, in Roseville
>> Davis Davis going to cut cut it off.
[1:00:54]
Motor's good, but the impella is $6,000.
A new pump is or airator is about
[1:01:02]
28,000. So
>> well cost me. Let's fix it.
[1:01:07]
» Motion.
>> That's a motion. Second move and second
[1:01:10]
Impel
Moodle.
[1:01:13]
» Yep. All in favor signify to say I. I.
>> Oppos same. Motion carried.
[1:01:19]
» Uh just a quick note. Um since summer
hours are coming to a close, I'm going
[1:01:23]
to change the guys' hours from 8 to 5.
Uh starting Monday. I'll get on the
[1:01:29]
call. Instead of being 74, we move back
to 8 to 5. It's not going to help a
[1:01:34]
whole lot when the time change comes,
but at least we're coming in during
[1:01:37]
daylight hours. [laughter]
>> Hopefully.
[1:01:42]
No 12. [clears throat]
>> Steven sitting back here.
[1:01:48]
» Hey,
>> your turn, Stephen.
[1:01:54]
[clears throat]
>> I don't have much for you. I received a
[1:01:57]
quote back for the light package,
the console, and moving the radio
[1:02:02]
equipment over to the new truck.
Uh, that would be from Safety Systems.
[1:02:07]
That came in at $8,3925.
[1:02:12]
So that's all the lights, the siren,
speakers, the console, and then moving
[1:02:18]
the radio equipment we have. So,
>> and they come here and do it, right?
[1:02:22]
» Yes, they will come here and do it. Uh,
approximately 6 to 8 weeks.
[1:02:27]
» Okay.
>> Before they can get all the equipment
[1:02:30]
in, be ready to do that.
>> Uh, I know the camper shell is already
[1:02:34]
ordered. Then after this,
just work on graphics and should be
[1:02:40]
ready to go. So
>> need a motion to approve that lady
[1:02:45]
package.
>> Motion to approve. Second move. Second
[1:02:48]
in favor signify say
[1:02:54]
» that's all I got unless you guys got
anything for me.
[1:02:59]
» Whoever painted the containers we got
one to go.
[1:03:04]
» Cool.
>> Looks better. No.
[1:03:10]
» Looks a lot better.
[1:03:14]
» Parking match.
>> Nothing.
[1:03:20]
Revive relation. I guess we went over a
bunch of them today.
[1:03:23]
» Yeah. I got another thing with
>> I got a couple guys going to look at
[1:03:28]
dogs hall tearing up that old carpet in
the top and putting some of that plank
[1:03:34]
flooring down. couple local guys
get prices on that.
[1:03:40]
» Bring it back to us.
>> Miscellaneous.
[1:03:44]
» I'd like to reschedule the executive
session.
[1:03:47]
» Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
>> I apologize for the notice, but Morgan
[1:03:51]
and I are talking about you've got a
form and all you need to do is check the
[1:03:55]
box. So, if you have confusion or
questions about which box to check, let
[1:04:00]
me know. But that's I developed that a
year or two ago to just be a standard
[1:04:06]
use any time. I mean [clears throat]
fill in the top. So what uh what's a
[1:04:11]
good date to next Wednesday?
>> Don't we have the uh the hearing next at
[1:04:17]
the next meeting?
>> The 23rd.
[1:04:20]
» The 23rd
>> at 5:30. That's
[1:04:24]
» And where do we need to post that,
Brian?
[1:04:27]
at the site that the meeting will be
held. If that's here, then it needs to
[1:04:31]
be outside.
I don't have it in my notes where it's
[1:04:34]
at
>> or if it's at the town hall. Outside the
[1:04:37]
town hall
>> for the public hearing one. I don't have
[1:04:39]
to put it anywhere else.
>> No.
[1:04:41]
» Okay.
>> 5:30 here.
[1:04:43]
» I have 5:30 September 23rd.
>> The executives finish it after
[1:04:48]
» or we have a meeting
14th at 6:00. I'm just being the 14th.
[1:04:55]
» Next Wednesday. Next Wednesday the 16th.
>> I can do that.
[1:04:59]
» I'll do that.
>> You said the
[1:05:00]
» work everybody else.
>> September.
[1:05:03]
» Do that.
>> You all write that down.
[1:05:06]
» Um Brian, can you do the minutes for
that? I have to be at that.
[1:05:09]
» Yes.
>> Mr. Sweden. Okay.
[1:05:12]
» Okay. So, just clarify, we got 23rd
public hearing that's required by
[1:05:16]
statute on
housing development and then 16th
[1:05:20]
executive.
Okay.
[1:05:23]
» Okay.
>> At six.
[1:05:24]
» At six.
>> Now, wait. Which one's Which one's the
[1:05:28]
sixth?
>> We got council meeting after that
[1:05:30]
hearing. Is that the same day?
>> On the 23rd meeting.
[1:05:34]
» Yes.
>> Yeah. What's the 23rd?
[1:05:37]
» It's a public hearing and
>> Ireing development the last time. Uh
[1:05:43]
like one of the parts of SB1 which
contained everything but the kitchen
[1:05:47]
sink and probably that too requires all
municipal entities in Indiana to hold a
[1:05:53]
public hearing to consider and discuss
potential incentives for affordable
[1:05:58]
housing.
>> That's joint with the planning
[1:06:00]
commission. Yeah,
statute's a little hasty on that, but it
[1:06:06]
wouldn't seem to make 23.
[1:06:12]
» Technically, what the statute requires
is that the hearing be conducted before
[1:06:16]
the governing body, which would be the
council, but it seems kind of ludicrous
[1:06:20]
not to include the plan commission.
So, as of right now, September 16th,
[1:06:27]
executive session at 6 p.m. September
23rd at 5:30 is the public hearing. 7:00
[1:06:34]
will be at the council meeting.
>> And I would certainly suggest that the
[1:06:39]
notice also go up on the website.
>> Okay.
[1:06:43]
» Did you say 6 or 6:30? Executive said
you said six.
[1:06:48]
» I thought you guys said six.
[1:06:53]
» [laughter]
[1:06:56]
» Okay.
>> Okay.
[1:06:57]
» Any other miscellaneous?
>> Move to ajourn.
[1:07:00]
» Second journ.
[cough]
[1:07:08]
The beat.