[0:18] I think he was probably just not expected to attend it.

[0:38] are we ready?

[0:40] I did.

[0:48] You ready?

[0:50] Okay.

[0:50] Well, let us call to order the meeting of the community development

[0:55] Black grant commission.

[0:58] And could we begin?

[0:58] Please by starting with the roll call.

[1:04] Okay.

[1:05] Harry Colomar.

[1:06] President.

[1:08] Karina O'Brien.

[1:10] absent.

[1:10] Walter Rich Richardson.

[1:14] Robert Vanderveld.

[1:15] here. Virginia Young, Richard Tippett, Absent, and Guillermo Rosas, Absent, staff members present,

[1:25] Jessica Miras here, John Sakamoto.

[1:31] And we have a quorum. So the first item on our agenda

[1:35] is to review the agenda.

[1:40] We have a motion to approve the agenda. We need that. Anything else

[1:47] The only thing I would like to add for the agenda and for today and for future meetings

[1:53] John is I think it'd be helpful for us to have a staff update under the Administrative

[1:59] Report and so for example what happened with our recommendations last time I know there

[2:04] have been some changes at least with one of the grant recipients and so just a general update

[2:10] if we could add that into the agenda for this meeting and for future meetings as well

[2:16] and let us mark Karina as present, no.

[2:25] Public comments, I don't see any members of the public

[2:27] present any longer, so we don't have any, do we have on the

[2:33] consent agenda, we only have one item which is the approval of the

[2:36] minutes of April 27, 2026, do we have any changes or

[2:43] suggestions to the minutes of the April 27th

[2:55] meeting.

[2:55] Well, hearing none, all in favor of approval.

[2:59] Say aye.

[3:01] Aye.

[3:02] Okay, I move that we accept the minutes as written.

[3:05] Aye.

[3:06] I'll second it.

[3:08] All in favor.

[3:10] Opposed.

[3:12] Okay.

[3:13] Great.

[3:13] So, on to, as I said, the staff update, could you give us an update, please, John, on the status of our recommendations, and also I believe there have been at least one change with one of the grant recipients.

[3:29] Yes, so recommendations were made to HUD during for the annual action plan for the current year we're in for school year 2627 program year 26.

[3:37] I have not had our response from HUD yet or our grant agreement, but that's typical timing-wise.

[3:42] It typically will come until October or November at the soonest.

[3:47] For the program year that we're reporting on at the paper, I could provide the update that on the move,

[3:52] who was awarded a public service grant, decided to walk away from that grant.

[3:57] It came so late for them.

[3:59] They had concerns, fiscally, about doing journal entries to account for it, even though they could,

[4:04] and we advised them that that was definitely possible wouldn't be a violating of any

[4:08] HUD stance.

[4:09] They had enough private donation funds that they chose to do that rather than make

[4:12] the change.

[4:15] So, I understand there's also been a change with NEPA for housing.

[4:19] Are you aware of that?

[4:21] NEPA for housing as an entity is changing, changing leadership and going through some changes.

[4:27] There's still providing service to the valley.

[4:29] There's similar to what they had been doing before, but they are under a new working with

[4:33] a new group to provide some of the service more on that to come as things flesh out and finish up.

[4:41] So I have a question about so I don't recall I could look it up for that rather just ask.

[4:48] So we approved how much for on the move and how what was done with the funds that we had allocated to them.

[4:56] I don't have the exact number but I will look it up shortly.

[4:58] Um

[5:00] What is, well, need to be done is it will need to be reprogrammed. Because it's public service though, and it's in the year and the past, it'll have to be reprogrammed to some sort of community development type project.

[5:12] We won't be able to meet the criteria in order to stay within the gap to add it to this year's current public service agencies. So it'll have to be reprogrammed and so we'll come to you with options.

[5:24] We'll likely try to meet with you again sooner before the end of the year on like usual to come up with a plan to fix this.

[5:31] Ah, thank you. That's very clear.

[5:36] Any other questions?

[5:39] Okay.

[5:40] Moving on to the caper, the consolidated annual performance evaluation report, John.

[5:48] You had a step aside this, please?

[5:52] Yes, so this year we still had a fair bit of success.

[5:57] We were able to complete some projects for owner occupied housing rehabilitation, did 7 projects

[6:01] this year.

[6:02] We're CDBG funds.

[6:03] We did eight with home funds so the program is operating well doing what it needs to be doing.

[6:09] The public service entities, they were all the rest of them, besides on the move, fully

[6:15] expanding delivering fair numbers, which was good to see, the two non-profit capital improvement

[6:23] projects. We are still waiting for environmental and enough bids to make sure that we can meet

[6:28] the criteria for to satisfy HUD before those can take off and start going under construction.

[6:35] That's the short of it, but were there any questions that came up in your review this year

[6:41] from the fire?

[6:42] The boy's aching.

[6:45] Erring through the report?

[6:48] Some reason I can't find it anymore.

[6:51] There was a listing of the types of services.

[6:55] I can't seem to find that.

[6:56] I thought it was right at the beginning,

[6:59] but

[6:59] I just didn't know if I had to talk to their head.

[7:01] What page that was?

[7:02] It's weird.

[7:03] What is it that year?

[7:05] Never mind.

[7:06] It's not critical that I find it to ask my question.

[7:08] It was a good thorough list that was comprehensive, but all the types of programs and housing that

[7:15] are addressed in the paper in the community services.

[7:18] There was one that I felt was missing from what I think of as a typical housing continuum

[7:23] of services, which is transitional housing.

[7:27] The 18-month type of housing that's for people who are homeless in that risk of homelessness.

[7:33] this. And so I didn't see it listed as one of the types of services slash housing that we

[7:40] provide, but I believe we actually at times in the past have. I know I forgot the name of

[7:47] the program, but there was the program for the mentally ill adults that was up off of Redwood

[7:54] road up there, where my ear goes used to be, that had to close. It was in a form of motel six,

[8:03] and I believe that one of the problems was there. There were a variety of issues, apparently,

[8:07] with that site, but I believe that that was operating under a transitional housing umbrella.

[8:15] So, having operated such programs, I would say that they have value within a continuum.

[8:22] They're useless standing on their own because just what happened to the folks is at the motel six is what happens if you don't have enough

[8:29] Supportive housing stock for folks to move into and then they reach the limit at the time during

[8:37] You know, of 18 months when they can get the support sometimes you can extend it a little bit but

[8:42] Basically you do end up booting right back out onto the street and you're right back to where you started

[8:49] Anyway, simple question is is there any particular policy reason why it was left off the list or was it more just slip the mind kind of thing or something?

[9:00] No particular policy reason why it probably would have fit under homeless shelters.

[9:05] I would assume a lot of actions taken for institutional in the homelessness section.

[9:12] We could certainly talk about it in there the other area would probably be

[9:24] in the helping

[9:25] homelessness kind of section with that be page 113 page which I'm sorry you were referring us

[9:34] to page 13 of the paper of the paper I know we've got sort of this double numbering thing

[9:39] Always drives me nuts. Yeah, I do apologize for that. I'm okay. 13 of the caper

[9:47] Which that's okay

[9:51] Sorry, this always gets me this double numbered

[9:57] Okay, that's

[10:00] 22 of 33, okay. Yes, that is exactly right. I mean, even the word transition is right there. And I'm

[10:08] just, I just would suggest that as of a bold and homeless coordination look at service spectrums

[10:17] over the years, transitional housing is a typical, for one thing, there are, under certain

[10:24] administrations. There are funding opportunities that show up for that specific type of housing

[10:31] that it would be ashamed not to go be able to go after.

[10:36] That's that comment. I have other

[10:38] comments but I will wait and I will let the people speak.

[10:44] Anything else?

[10:45] Okay, I will go ahead because I have two more things but I can wait.

[10:50] If you turn your mic off and then we'll...

[10:52] Well, I wasn't sure if I was genuine putters on.

[10:56] OK, so page 5 of the paper, 14 of the document that was the PDF.

[11:04] This is the kind of thing that Harry says I always

[11:06] spot.

[11:07] But in the second column, under source, public is lowercase for the first

[11:13] one, and then uppercase for the bottom two.

[11:15] I just feel like it should be consistent either way.

[11:17] Oh, thank you, though.

[11:22] Sorry, and then I had a question, which I feel like I should, this should be evident,

[11:28] but it's just not to me that one page earlier, on the top of page four, page 13 of the

[11:35] PDF, about the racial and ethnic composition of families assisted, it has the families,

[11:42] the 413, 56, and then the bottom amount of Hispanic and not Hispanic, and I just don't

[11:48] is the top, like those numbers obviously don't add up what is is one individuals and what is

[11:53] families or what is that? Happy to work through this one. The problem with this particular table

[12:01] as it is provided by HUD is that when it's populating the race category it's leaving off

[12:08] other or multiracial and so the reason why that number of Hispanic is so high on the bottom one

[12:13] because some of our public service agencies, people identify as other or

[12:20] multibacial and not white. And so it's not captured in this table, and that's

[12:24] why the number shows such a big variance. Is there's that many people selecting

[12:27] other or multibacial rather than white Hispanic?

[12:30] It's not captured in the top part of the whole part, but it's captured in the lower part.

[12:33] But it's captured in the lower part.

[12:34] That makes sense.

[12:35] But the totals don't add up, and it's because of the way in which the federal

[12:40] government categorizes race and Hispanic origin as two different categories, right? So you have

[12:47] a race category, and as you said, they emit other, but then separately you have a Hispanic

[12:53] non-Hispanic. And so I think in the narrative, you put in there a very nice explanation

[12:59] this year. I really appreciate that, because it is confusing. It looks like we only had

[13:04] It was 4,500 families when, in fact, it was 4,500 families.

[13:09] Exactly.

[13:10] Yeah.

[13:11] And it's just an unfortunate short coming of the way this table

[13:14] populates for them.

[13:15] They could easily solve it by adding other at the bottom in it.

[13:18] It would all match and be very easy to read.

[13:21] But when it goes into the caper, when it goes into their system,

[13:24] this is how it will look.

[13:25] And we have to have the narrative to explain why the variance is there.

[13:34] So on page 9, you talked about zoning standards and barriers to group homes, and I just wanted

[13:44] to make a tutorial note about that, which I've actually mentioned to Rob at Memphis as

[13:50] well, since they've started to finally engage in support of housing.

[13:55] The key that unlocks that problem is master leasing.

[14:00] The limit, as you probably know, is a residence, is six before you have to call it a licensed facility.

[14:08] So six are below, you can master lease a house with multiple bedrooms, anywhere you want, and you can move people in.

[14:16] It doesn't mean you shouldn't spend some time talking to the neighbors in the softening the ground, but you don't have to.

[14:23] there's not a formal complaint procedure that can block it and it's a mechanism that's extremely

[14:31] useful. The key, especially now, is getting funds in order to do the leasing. I can get

[14:41] into the whole programmatic structure. But it is a great work around. It's harder if the population

[14:50] or you're working with does need a license facility, which is sometimes the case with certain

[14:54] populations.

[14:56] But with folks who are basically...

[15:03] We have a lot to do a little bit of it. In this community, we're about 40 years behind the curve.

[15:18] It's a model that works, we've just finally started to do a little bit of it in this community, we're about 40 years behind the curve.

[15:29] on it, but it's still, it's cartoning to see

[15:35] mentors beginning, in particular, dipping their tones

[15:37] of the water.

[15:38] I think progress knows exactly how this works,

[15:40] but the economics may be a barrier.

[15:42] But I did want to note that that's the work around that works

[15:47] when there's understandable, nimioposition

[15:51] to licensed group homes in various neighborhoods.

[15:55] I have only one more.

[16:00] Oh, okay, it's a request rather than a note.

[16:04] On page 13, you talk about HMIS stats.

[16:07] And I know what you guys are new,

[16:10] so you won't consider me a broken record.

[16:13] But pretty much every year,

[16:14] I ask if we could please have access to or be able to see

[16:19] the most recent years HMIS stats.

[16:21] I find them very informative and helpful to truly understand how we're doing on all those indicators.

[16:32] When would it be appropriate time to bring that to the committee, the early meeting of the year, will we do the calendar?

[16:40] Yeah, because it's informational, it doesn't necessarily lead to decision making.

[16:47] I think, I will speak for myself, it enlarges my understanding of how we are doing that along with things like the point in time count.

[16:58] It's a snapshot, but there are indicators, at least as I recall, that give a little bit broader idea of how people are actually moving through the system.

[17:09] because one thing point in time just tells us that on that day this is how many people we found

[17:14] over in Kennedy or down by the creek or wherever. It's I think we're useful to have a better

[17:20] picture of. Okay, fine. And a bold staff went out and talked to them and this person, you know,

[17:27] we managed to move seven to this and that, you know. Okay, yeah, I can work with the continuing

[17:34] of care to provide the system performance measures when they come out.

[17:39] Thank you.

[17:39] Absolutely.

[17:39] That's it.

[17:40] I'm done with my comments.

[17:44] Anything else?

[17:45] Thank you.

[17:47] The only other thing I had on page 22 of the document,

[17:51] I talked about receiving the public of the paper,

[17:57] page 20, not the PDF page 22 of the paper,

[18:01] it says during the public comment period,

[18:03] this is about the paper. The city received to be completed public comments and so you just

[18:08] want to highlight that that's obviously a blank that you need to fill in. Yes absolutely.

[18:13] And I have soon as of today we haven't received any. Yeah we haven't received any and it's open

[18:18] until the city council meeting so once council meetings over I will fill in that to be completed

[18:24] with whatever many comments we receive. Okay September the 15th.

[18:32] So do you need a motion to

[18:34] prove this to recommend to council where it's just a more of an information item.

[18:38] I believe it's a motion to present the information.

[18:41] So, all entertain a motion to approve.

[18:45] We have a motion.

[18:47] Approved?

[18:48] Yes.

[18:49] Approved.

[18:49] Rich is moving.

[18:50] Yes.

[18:51] Do we have a second?

[18:52] Okay.

[18:53] Let's see if we have to go to the sector step now.

[18:55] I'll second.

[18:56] Thank you very much.

[18:57] Any discussion?

[19:00] All in favour?

[19:01] Say aye.

[19:02] Aye.

[19:03] Aye.

[19:04] Aye.

[19:04] as well. So it is approved. Thank you.

[19:08] Thank you.

[19:09] Jonathan, I have just one kind of side note

[19:12] question to all this in planning for next year.

[19:17] And I know the city plan is coming up as well,

[19:20] another version of it.

[19:22] But with the economy, the local economy,

[19:27] and with the wine industry,

[19:29] really being challenged, it was whenever

[19:31] in to someone today who just kind of brought it up. Are you noticing any impact on some of these

[19:40] issues? Are you hearing financially any sort of funding by private sources to some of the sources

[19:48] we're looking at being affected at all? That's a huge question. I don't know. In looking at the

[19:58] so I can see that there's a fair bit.

[20:02] It's not filling the gap that the federal government left behind on several or non-profits. The need for additional funding, other sources, more help, still very much exists.

[20:14] In doing some research for this paper, looking at the statistics in our area, I can tell you that the fair market rents since 2019 is skyrocketed, it's almost double.

[20:24] And the average median income is also risen by 70 something percent.

[20:31] So while those numbers are rising quite rapidly impacting what's available on the market,

[20:38] those working folks, which I'd like to see a study on,

[20:41] I don't think that's changing as rapidly as the average median would indicate.

[20:52] Do we have anything else?

[20:54] Should we go to the order?

[20:56] Yeah, I just wanted to note, which I did informally, that four of us sitting at this place.

[21:02] I think you, too, right, Karina, have re-applying?

[21:06] Oh, are we all up?

[21:08] Yes.

[21:09] All four of us.

[21:10] Everyone, except Richard.

[21:12] Richard and Richard.

[21:15] Richard and Guillermo.

[21:17] Yeah, and Guillermo.

[21:18] But yeah, the four of us are all, and I believe we've all re-applied.

[21:24] Yes, I did. I haven't heard anything beyond the plan.

[21:27] No, I spoke with Tiffany today and she was, I guess they just closed a week ago or so.

[21:36] Anyway, there are more applicants than spots, so we will have to go through the interview process to be determined.

[21:44] Okay.

[21:46] But I think all of us are terms expired.

[21:49] And as much as we know, is Giroa still joining us, I haven't seen much of the meetings.

[21:57] He did respond to our Rick email, letting us know that he had an appointment come up that he wouldn't be able to.

[22:02] But he's still interested.

[22:04] Okay.

[22:05] Good.

[22:06] Very good.

[22:07] Well, we have nothing further for the agenda.

[22:11] I will call the meeting adjourned.

[22:13] Thank you all very much.

[22:14] Thank you all.

[22:15] Our next meeting date is...

[22:17] Thank you.

[22:21] I'm going to have to send you guys an email.

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