[50:46] We are going to start our meeting.

[50:54] I have some of you seated. Please rise. Ladies and gentlemen, Muscarella

[50:58] will read this in a pledge of allegiance. Thank you.

[51:21] welcoming everyone who has joined us today

[51:24] for this meeting of the National County Legislature. I had to say that there has been a lack

[51:30] of communication about the capacity for this room. We had intended to set this room at a capacity

[51:39] one hundred, and it's obviously well beyond one hundred people here.

[51:43] So, there is a concern in that we are not out of the pandemic yet.

[51:49] We have concerned about having this many people in the room together at one point.

[51:55] So, a number of things. There may be space in the minority of the Abrahamians,

[51:59] often, there may be space in his side of the, we are the building

[52:03] to accommodate some people, not for that many.

[52:07] Secondly, if you're speaking, you've spoken, because I have probably 50, 60 slips.

[52:14] If after you've spoken, you can go out and leave the chambers.

[52:18] It would actually, we have some spaces as well.

[52:19] So we're trying to, we're going to accommodate everyone who wants to speak.

[52:23] Every one who wants to speak, every one who wants to speak on the bill.

[52:25] Obviously, we will do so.

[52:28] But at the same time, we're trying to manage the system, the situation as well as we can.

[52:33] Having said that, the first order of business today is

[52:36] for the top cops, which we do each month,

[52:40] to recognize police officers,

[52:42] corrections officers, medics, and others,

[52:45] for their outstanding work.

[52:46] So I would advise James McDermott

[52:49] up to the podium with his honorees.

[53:22] But just so you know what we're doing.

[53:24] We're doing this part of the program,

[53:26] which will be for the recognized

[53:27] of the top cops as I mentioned.

[53:29] After that, we will have a time period for public comment, which will be more of a general

[53:36] nature, and then after that, we will go right into the bill with respect to first responders

[53:42] and discrimination.

[53:43] So that'll be the first thing on our agenda after we finish public comment.

[53:47] Go ahead.

[53:48] Sure.

[53:49] Legislative.

[53:50] I'm sorry.

[53:52] As I look out into the crowd, and I'm thankful that we have as many people we have to discuss

[53:58] the agenda, but more particularly the item that's before us, the bill, that's before us.

[54:04] If anyone, if you have a mask, please put on your mask.

[54:10] I just want to express that level of caution that I think as a presiding officer said,

[54:14] I think we all can agree,

[54:19] that we have, I mean, I know we are getting in the direction

[54:23] where we want things to be better in our county.

[54:25] ever as it pertains to COVID, but we are not out of the woods yet.

[54:29] And NASA, according to the CDC, has been designated as an area where COVID is still

[54:35] contagious if I have substantial degree.

[54:37] We are still better than most of the country, but we are still not where we want to be yet.

[54:41] So I'm asking anyone that has a mask in their pocket to please place their mask.

[54:47] I'm sorry,

[54:50] I'm asking, I'm asking all, I'm asking, sir, sir, first of all,

[54:56] I very rarely address folks directly that are not at the podium.

[55:00] I'm going to say that first.

[55:02] But I'm going to ask for everyone to place a mask on.

[55:08] That wasn't just folks for the lights.

[55:10] I said everyone to place a mask on if they have a mask on their person.

[55:18] I'm wearing a mask.

[55:20] Since I've been back at the legislature, I've always wore a mask.

[55:28] I'm gonna, sir, sir, sir, you asked to determine what your own responsibility level is.

[55:35] My responsibility level is, I see a room of over 200,000 people.

[55:44] Thank you.

[55:46] Everyone, thank you, sir.

[55:49] Thank you, sir. Thank you.

[55:51] Thank you. Thank you.

[55:52] Thank you.

[55:53] That's all.

[55:54] All right.

[55:54] Thank you very much.

[55:55] James and Alex.

[56:03] Good afternoon, everyone.

[56:04] and my name is Police Officer Kevin Mullig, I'm with the Nastikanity Police

[56:08] Federal Association, I'm the chairman of the Board of Trustees, and I'll be presenting

[56:11] the top cops today.

[56:14] For the legislative cops, August 2021, Police Officers, Michael Harmony, Brian Lemcki,

[56:20] Sean Clark, and Wyatt Russo.

[56:23] On July 6, 2021, approximately 3 a.m., Officer Larmony, while working at Marine Base,

[56:29] received a distress call for a female stating that herself and her husband were on a cell

[56:34] and he went to diabetic shock.

[56:38] She did not know exactly where the cell boat was anchored,

[56:41] possibly Oyster Bay.

[56:42] She was able to explain some landmarks around her

[56:46] to Officer Larmony, and he was able to quickly pinpoint

[56:49] where the cell boat was in cold spring hopper

[56:52] and dispatch Marine 11 to search the area.

[56:55] Knowing that Suffolk Marine Bureau

[56:56] would have an extended response time to that area.

[57:00] Marine 11 officers, Lemke, Clark, and Russo aboard

[57:04] began making their way toward the aided's location.

[57:09] Using radar due to the dock conditions and poor visibility on the water.

[57:13] Upon arrival at the location,

[57:16] EWIT numerous boats moored in the area.

[57:19] Ophs were able to quickly locate the aided cell boat,

[57:22] tying it off.

[57:24] Ophs was boarded to the cell boat,

[57:26] where they found the aided laying unresponsive in the cabin.

[57:29] The aided's location in the cell vote as well as the small layout and narrow ladder

[57:34] well made the working area and extradition the victim extremely difficult.

[57:40] While with little room to maneuver, the officers made modifications to the cell vote

[57:45] in order to extradition the aided to the top deck.

[57:48] Officers were able to lift the aided out of the thin ladder

[57:52] while putting him on the deck of the cell vote.

[57:55] despite the unsteady sees officer safely transferred the aided and his wife on to Marine 11.

[58:01] Marine 11 then began to navigate back to the Teddy Roosevelt Marina,

[58:06] where he was transferred to an awaiting OIST of a fight department, ambulance, and transported

[58:11] to Siyasat Hospital. Due to the officer's quick response, teamwork, and political experience,

[58:17] they were able to save the aided. The Nassacat of PVA is proud to name police officers,

[58:22] of Larmony, Lempy, Clark, and Russo, ledgercely of Pop Cops, the 20th of August 2021.

[58:40] First of all, I like to, again, congratulate them for their great job. I want to recognize

[58:45] the fact that I think we all agree that the service that our men and women do is in serving

[58:50] up public in Nassau County. They did a great job, and it's because of the tools that you have

[58:55] all given them. All of you, and I thank you for that and continue to support. Thank you.

[59:08] Okay, none of the officers want to say anything.

[59:13] All right.

[59:15] Let's see.

[59:16] Let's see.

[59:17] Let's see.

[59:18] Let's see.

[59:18] Thank you, Presiding Officer.

[59:21] There's been an unprecedented amount of boaters this year.

[59:23] The National County Marine Bureau continues to save the lives of residents in distress.

[59:27] And we thank you for your heroism and service.

[59:30] But I also wanted to take a moment to recognize our other honorees who are here with us today.

[59:33] We have Anthony DeCarolis, First Assistant Chief Paramedic, Nicole Pantina, EMT, and John

[59:40] Hambrook Chief of the Oyster Bay Volunteer Fire Department.

[59:47] They were also crucial in this save and the Oyster Bay Fire Department continues to be one

[59:51] of the finest volunteer fire departments in the county.

[59:54] We're so grateful and I'm so grateful to be a legislator.

[59:56] Thank you.

[59:57] Okay, let's let it walk.

[59:59] Thank you.

[1:00:00] A thanking congratulate our honorees this morning. This is not the only time you've been out on the

[1:00:06] water to save those who are in need. And I thank you for always being on the look out and

[1:00:10] making those saves very often that you're not recognized for. And to our fire department, too,

[1:00:16] I used to represent the voice debate, fire department. So it's nice to see you back again, although that's not part

[1:00:22] of my district anymore. I thank you, a member of the, I'm a member of the ladies of the

[1:00:26] So far, Department, and I know how much you do when the hard work you do in dedication, you have to all our residents.

[1:00:32] So thank you all and God bless and say say.

[1:00:35] And we do have citations reach of you.

[1:00:39] Rich, you want to come up here.

[1:00:45] If you'd like to all come up, and we have citations for you.

[1:00:49] Do I smell good?

[1:01:02] Yeah.

[1:04:16] Legislative, we do have an additional top cop to present today.

[1:04:19] co

[1:04:28] -op the members of emergency services and the fire marshals next kind of fire marshals

[1:04:42] anybody from ESU please come on up

[1:04:46] and the fire marshals.

[1:05:07] So we have a very big group here today, so bear with me. So for the Legislative top cops for July of 2021

[1:05:16] Lieutenant John Barrett, police officers Mark Babbage, Patrick McWink, Brett Roslow and Robert Shutterwitch

[1:05:24] are going to be our honorees from the National Security Police Department.

[1:05:28] On July 7, 2021, and approximately 0,408 hours, emergency services unit, I'll call them

[1:05:35] ESU, was requested to the scene of an overturned oil tanker.

[1:05:40] The initial port was of an oil tanker that was on its side leaking fuel with the driver

[1:05:44] pendant inside.

[1:05:46] ESU responded accordingly, upon arrival, and 2,426, ESU members, Nick work, and Roslow

[1:05:54] checked on the local fire chief who had established the fire command. He informed the

[1:05:58] issue crew members that the driver of the tanker had been removed. Prior to issues

[1:06:04] arrival. However, they started very large gas leak. The tanker had just been fully

[1:06:10] loaded with the combination of gasoline and diesel fuel. That's what I'm reading here

[1:06:14] over 11,000 gallons of gas. The issue made their initial entry and counted members of

[1:06:20] inward and Lawrence Cedarhurst's fight departments,

[1:06:23] beginning to mitigate several of the leaks.

[1:06:25] These will few was treafloing out of a barely damaged cap,

[1:06:29] and gasoline was pouring out of several damage

[1:06:30] to smaller sections.

[1:06:32] ESU crew went back to the truck to retrieve mitigation equipment.

[1:06:36] The other EESU truck, which was occupied by Offs' Babbage

[1:06:39] and Shutterwich, were re-directed back to the base

[1:06:42] to get ESU has not heavy rescue.

[1:06:46] Lieutenant Barrett responded to the incident command

[1:06:49] to oversee ESU's operation file by Sergeant Favour.

[1:06:53] Issue crew, McWork, and Roslow,

[1:06:56] then re-entered the scene and began the process of diking,

[1:06:59] plugging and capping the leaks.

[1:07:03] This was now being done under the cover of the fire,

[1:07:07] the fire department foam blanket that was actively being applied

[1:07:12] by the fire department to help prevent fire and explosion.

[1:07:16] Issue crew plugs several of the small leaks,

[1:07:20] reducing down to completely stop again to a small drip.

[1:07:24] Issue crew then assisted the members of the fight apartment with the, with the, with the less remaining large leak.

[1:07:30] The leak was slowed from flee flowing down to more of a manageable leak.

[1:07:36] The fight apartment also set up several hazmat booms around the storm drains.

[1:07:41] The fight apartments now bolstered by enormous amount of mutual aid, continue to apply foam.

[1:07:47] issue crew then made another entry with the fire marshals to cap the remaining unsecured fuel

[1:07:54] caps as a precautionary member. The fire marshals assisted issue by drilling holes on into

[1:08:00] the side of each of the tank safely unloaded the remaining fuel onto another tanker. The U.S.

[1:08:07] Coast Guard had also been boarded with Marine Bureau an aviation to address some of the

[1:08:17] then perform decondamination of any members requiring it.

[1:08:23] Through these combined efforts, the, with the combined efforts of the

[1:08:28] marshals, the fight apartments, and our emergency services, we have heard of the disaster.

[1:08:34] The NASA County PBA is proud to present Lieutenant Barrett, Peel Babbage, Peel

[1:08:39] McWork, Peel Roslow, Peel Shutterwich, as the top cop legislate top

[1:08:44] Perhaps for July of 2021.

[1:08:54] Secretary Taro.

[1:08:59] Chief, congratulations.

[1:09:00] Thank you.

[1:09:01] I was on a new fire marshal.

[1:09:03] Let's Thursday night.

[1:09:05] Yes.

[1:09:05] Thanks very much.

[1:09:06] You've been the go-to guy for all of us all 19 of us over the years.

[1:09:10] Well, thrilled that you're in that position and we know you're the great job.

[1:09:14] Thank you very much.

[1:09:14] Look forward to keep working with you.

[1:09:21] And thank you for this opportunity.

[1:09:24] As the police officers had just mentioned before,

[1:09:26] Wednesday, July 7th, 2021. The National County Fire Martial's office has its

[1:09:31] material team was requested by Chief Curcio, the Inwood Fire Department,

[1:09:35] to respond to the senior overturned gasoline tanker truck.

[1:09:38] It gives a section of Burnside Avenue and reps 878.

[1:09:42] Hasbet 2 with Supervisor Seabird, and Fire Martial Martin Golden, was assigned at 0-425,

[1:09:49] 0-425 hours and arrived on scene at 0-446 hours.

[1:09:53] On arrival, the scene has about two was positioned southbound on Route 878, the National Expressway.

[1:09:59] Underneath West Corner, Burntside Avenue, along with NCPD, ESU, 2-4-2-4.

[1:10:05] Has my crew may contact with the fire department command post, has met done personal protective gear,

[1:10:10] including SCBA, and proceeded to proceed to the overturn tank into assist at the scene and determine an action plan.

[1:10:19] It was learned that the gasoline tanker had just loaded with a little more than 11,300 g on the gasoline and diesel fuel.

[1:10:26] The tanker was facing north on the northeast corner of Route 878 Burnside, and was laying on his passenger side.

[1:10:32] There were multiple active leaks found on the tanker, fire-mocial and CPDE issue, and fire department personnel worked seamlessly together to manage and mitigate the leaks.

[1:10:42] additional resources could be amassed, and I have to say from the guys on scene, I was not

[1:10:47] on seeing that day, the Police Department and Fire Department and the Fire Marshal's office

[1:10:52] worked well together, and really got a very dangerous condition under control in good-time

[1:10:57] frame with no injuries. Fire Department also began to launch scale foam operations to control

[1:11:02] the vapors of flammable products that have been released, while these actions will be

[1:11:12] These personnel included assisted chief fire module James Hickman has met division supervisor Michael Monella has met supervising fire module Frank Dubens

[1:11:20] has met supervising fire module John Keller and fire module Kyle O'Brien

[1:11:25] Once these personnel were on scene and its action plan was developed and included assessing the six separate compartments

[1:11:32] of the tanker by drilling or cold tapping each compartment and then using a long pipe or stinger to reach the fuel inside

[1:11:38] The truck and company was able to provide an empty tanker to offload all the flammable liquids into it.

[1:11:44] Additional agencies were notified to respond, including New York State Department of

[1:11:47] Environmental Conservation Skills Division, the New York State Department of

[1:11:51] Environmental Conservation Police Department, the National County Department of Public Works,

[1:11:56] the town of Hemsford, the Department of Public Works, and the United States Coast Guard.

[1:11:59] After completing the safety check, which includes the application of

[1:12:02] dome cover clamps to each department establishing a static electricity grounding field,

[1:12:07] And then applying grounding and bonding cables to both damage tanker as well as the recovery

[1:12:11] vehicle, the drilling team members were briefed, checked their equipment, and began the work

[1:12:16] at the highest point of the overturn tanker.

[1:12:19] The drilling and offloading process was completed, using two rotating crews over the course

[1:12:24] of approximately two hours.

[1:12:26] The weather was also as significant challenges the drilling crews had to be pressed out in full

[1:12:31] turn out here in SCBA with temperatures of reaching 92 degrees with high humidity.

[1:12:35] This weather pattern made it difficult for the personnel on scene and also made the 11,000 gallons of gasoline and diesel even more volatile.

[1:12:42] Ultimately, it was determined that the tanker had loaded was fully loaded and over the 10,000 to 200 gallons of fuel that were recovered,

[1:12:50] which was a 90 percent recovery rate of all the fuel on scene.

[1:12:54] The trucking company was ordered to hire an environmental cleanup contractor and clean up operations began under the direction of the DEC.

[1:13:01] has about operations, we're concluded, we're conducted on the direction of chief

[1:13:05] equipment and division supervisor Manila.

[1:13:08] Personal, fire, martial personnel, present included, those aforementioned, industrial

[1:13:14] division supervisor Andrew Schmidt has about supervising fire, martial mark

[1:13:18] seabird who is on the drilling team, has about supervising fire, martial

[1:13:22] john Keller on the drilling team, industrial supervising fire, martial

[1:13:26] john Madden, fire, martial martin golden, fire, martial

[1:13:29] Kyle O'Brien, Robert Scher, Daniel Gierdino, Dominic Buffelino, Michael Marciano,

[1:13:36] Brian O'Malley, James Hopelman, and John O'Brien.

[1:13:41] This is the Chief FireMotion for Fire Rescue Services, Timmy Pocilla,

[1:13:45] supervising dispatcher, Brian Vobley, and dispatcher, James Allen,

[1:13:48] Manfield Com, and that helped with operations,

[1:13:51] which would give you the case in between all agencies.

[1:13:54] So, that was a mouthful, but the guys did excellent job that day,

[1:13:57] Again, the work between all agencies was excellent,

[1:14:01] and that's what the public expects.

[1:14:03] So I thank you for your honor.

[1:14:12] I request that we turn the egg in the shun of back on.

[1:14:16] But I first realized the incident commander

[1:14:18] for the pandemic, I got the work very close

[1:14:20] with the fire marshals, and I saw the expertise

[1:14:23] that Mike DiTaro and before him, Chief DiTaro,

[1:14:28] I'm a city chief, yeah, we've got him already.

[1:14:33] But they did a great job, but they really did

[1:14:35] come together, the best interest for the public, and that's what was out there.

[1:14:39] Your police medics, your volunteer fire services, they all worked together as one team,

[1:14:43] and that's why we are here where we are today.

[1:14:45] So, again, they've always done a great job, and I know Chief Yotaro is going to do a phenomenal

[1:14:49] job going forward.

[1:14:50] Thank you.

[1:15:02] Okay. This response was typical of what we expect from our first responders. I'll be half of the entire five towns area, which I represent, or together with Legislator Ford.

[1:15:18] I want to create a curtain, the third legislative district. Thank you. Thank you. Including me as well.

[1:15:23] I think we're including you as well.

[1:15:25] And then would, that's right.

[1:15:28] I want to send you to me a park.

[1:15:31] I've met on me a park.

[1:15:33] Did I get it all?

[1:15:34] Well, I'm cold.

[1:15:35] Can I go on now?

[1:15:36] OK, I think it's a third time you're discussing matters

[1:15:39] in my district without giving my office a courtesy.

[1:15:44] You're welcome to say, if you were.

[1:15:49] You're welcome.

[1:15:49] Have you led to say, obviously?

[1:15:51] You're welcome to say, if you were, it's afterwards.

[1:15:52] Sure.

[1:15:57] I'm sorry.

[1:15:58] It means you're up, should.

[1:16:01] It's typical of the way our first responders work together, it was a magnificent display and I know living in the area, I know how difficult this was, because not only was this an ultra hazard situation, you're exposed to fumes in your exposed to fire and perhaps explosion guard for bit, you also had this incident happening on a main artery, which resulted very quickly in the entire area.

[1:16:29] area being gridlocked for, I don't know,

[1:16:33] was about the 16 hours or something like that,

[1:16:36] which made a lot of people unhappy,

[1:16:39] and which made your job more difficult.

[1:16:43] You have to get in and get out and deal with unhappy people.

[1:16:50] So on the whole, this was handled in a wonderful fashion,

[1:16:55] in a brave fashion, in an expeditious fashion, and I just sit here full of admiration for

[1:17:03] the work that you all do, and I can't express no end of appreciation. Thank you.

[1:17:11] Thank you. Thank you again. I would like to thank all the members of the Fire Department,

[1:17:18] the all the first responders, the Police Department, for operating on the same page that day,

[1:17:23] operating on the same frequency, I observed what happened that day and what you guys

[1:17:29] was phenomenal. You protected the public. I'm just like a thank you very much. What

[1:17:33] did that day? Thank you.

[1:17:38] Yeah, thank you. I guess you all want to come up here for a photo. It's going to be well

[1:17:45] invited up. Come on up

[1:20:12] to the Association.

[1:20:48] I'm John Wakehouse president of the

[1:20:50] Ness County Detective Association. I want to thank

[1:20:56] Rich Nicollelo.

[1:20:58] I can do that on purpose really, that's where it's very difficult.

[1:21:04] I'd like to thank my Nardlee de Abraham's and the full legislative body.

[1:21:07] It's great to be back and honoring our detectives.

[1:21:11] Today we have detectives.

[1:21:13] He'll fill in and makes pikeler from the fifth squad.

[1:21:17] On May 16th, 2021, detectives fill in and spikeler

[1:21:22] were traveling on Fletcher Avenue in Valley Stream in an unmarked police vehicle.

[1:21:27] When they observed a male walking northbound on Fletcher Avenue with what appeared to be the brown

[1:21:33] handle of a gun sticking out of his waistband over a tucked in t-shirt, the detectives did a

[1:21:41] secondary pass to confirm what they had observed. Detectives filled in a spike-ler exited

[1:21:47] their auto with their detectives shields displayed on their out-of-most garment and verbally

[1:21:52] identified themselves as the police.

[1:21:56] The subject then took a step to the rear to create distance between himself and the detectives.

[1:22:02] He then reached to his waistband and pulled out what appeared to be a black revolver with

[1:22:08] his left hand and pointed the gun at the detectives.

[1:22:13] The detectives while utilizing their training and experience to cover, through their weapons,

[1:22:19] while giving multiple commands for the subject to drop his gun.

[1:22:23] After several verbal commands from the detectives,

[1:22:26] the subject eventually dropped his weapon,

[1:22:29] and was taken into custody without further incident.

[1:22:33] As a result of the detective,

[1:22:35] Philbin, and detectives, spikelers, years of experience

[1:22:38] and law enforcement, and the comprehensive training

[1:22:41] we receive in the National County Police Department,

[1:22:44] these detectives display the utmost restraint

[1:22:46] on the use of force while encountering an emotionally disturbed person.

[1:22:52] I would like to introduce to you the Texas Philbin and Spikler.

[1:23:05] Everything that's gone on in the past two years

[1:23:08] with reform and mental health and the way we should treat

[1:23:12] and respectfully treat those that are out there with the mental health illness.

[1:23:17] I watched this video over and over and over again

[1:23:20] as it was captured by somebody's doorbell ring.

[1:23:23] The restraint that our officers showed, the respect that our officers showed, that person needing

[1:23:29] exactly what it ended up being, is help in a hospital, not in a rest, getting him to

[1:23:34] where he should be, getting in the treatment he should be, was because of the training that

[1:23:38] we receive.

[1:23:40] It's because of the reforms that we've put in place.

[1:23:43] It's because of people like Commissioner McCumbings and her team who are addressing exactly

[1:23:48] what this should be.

[1:23:50] It's about mental health and treating our victims.

[1:23:53] But unfortunately, that day could have went the other direction.

[1:23:56] And unfortunately, my cops would have been the victims

[1:23:59] that would have had to live with that the rest of their life

[1:24:01] of what their actions that they took.

[1:24:04] And that's also because of the bill that was passed two years ago

[1:24:07] protecting the mental health of our officers.

[1:24:10] So I thank both of you, all of you, for what you do for our department.

[1:24:14] And sometimes we get caught up in a lot up here.

[1:24:18] But the fact that we're able to take care of the public the way we did that day, take care of

[1:24:23] a cops the way they did that day is exactly the way this should all work out, right?

[1:24:28] So again, I want to thank them outstanding, both of them what they did that day, and they deserve

[1:24:32] a nice round of applause.

[1:24:34] Thank you.

[1:24:42] I just want to say thank you to the not only the legislature for calling us up here for this

[1:24:47] and recognizing not only us but our squad that does a lot of work in the fifth precinct, but

[1:24:51] The leadership of the fifth precinct squad, the fellow fifth squad detectives that help us out that day,

[1:24:56] and the whole chain of command all the way up to Chief of Detectives and Commissioner Ryder,

[1:25:00] as well as the DAI, so thank you very much.

[1:25:07] If I may, Officer Filbin also has served in a United States Marine Corps and still serves today,

[1:25:12] and has gone back and forth serving off country.

[1:25:20] So let's sort of salized and let's sort of

[1:25:22] afford to do. Again, I would like to thank you very much for what you did that day,

[1:25:27] And in the day, it's just one less gun that doesn't deserve to be on the street that was on the streets.

[1:25:34] And I just want to thank you for that most importantly, it was unfortunately where you are going through an epidemic of gun violence.

[1:25:39] I just want to thank you for that, and I also thank you for using the tactics of de-escalation,

[1:25:45] or what you've learned in the academy, and what you've relearned it.

[1:25:48] And I think my colleagues also, for stressing the importance of de-escalation and addressing

[1:25:52] and providing more resources for mental health issues, so thank you very much.

[1:26:00] I too want to echo all the sentiments of everybody in our gratitude for the restraint

[1:26:05] that you showed and your professionalism and you really put on display with the training

[1:26:11] that you get through the academy and the concentration that you get as a police officer working

[1:26:17] day in and day out in the 5th precinct, so I think it is remarkable what you did, how you were

[1:26:23] to be able to escalate the situation and be able to have a better, a much better outcome than what could have happened.

[1:26:30] So really, we owe you a debt of gratitude and thank you very much for your bravery.

[1:26:39] You would just join us a few.

[1:29:14] These lines and then there's a point of personal privilege that we'll get to the visit today,

[1:29:19] but as I'd like to invite up Chris calendar for the police

[1:29:50] fighting us here.

[1:29:51] The assignment today I have, we spent a coordinator Scott DiPino, we spent a really bad

[1:29:58] of sin as well as Chris Russollo.

[1:30:00] And I also have Mr. and Mrs. Wachoski.

[1:30:05] All right, a March 13th at about 9.30 in the morning, the Nessa County Police Department was dispatched to a construction area near the Miniola Railroad for its 29-year-old female who was unconscious in the responsive. Within three minutes, the medics arrived to start providing care. As they arrived, the construction crew was actually lowering the aided down onto the grounds. You may ask why I say that that way. The aided is a construction worker,

[1:30:32] who was poised it all the way up, working with the iron to set up the bridge that was being

[1:30:38] set up there. Bystanders advised the medics that while she was working, the opposite end of

[1:30:44] her beam accidentally touched a 9,000 volts high voltage wire and electro-puted her. The medics

[1:30:51] were able to see that there was a path of electricity that reached from her hands which she was

[1:30:58] holding the rod with, threw her body down to her knee.

[1:31:02] Immediately once they got there,

[1:31:04] please met a coordinator, Scott DiPino,

[1:31:06] insubated her.

[1:31:06] You put a tube into her lungs, started breathing for her.

[1:31:09] Chris Racillo,

[1:31:11] drilled into her bone to get access to give her

[1:31:14] advanced life-saving medication,

[1:31:17] as well as Billy Batterson attached to CPR machine

[1:31:19] that automatically does perfect CPR throughout its entirety.

[1:31:27] Everything seems to be getting better, getting better.

[1:31:30] They shocked her about three times.

[1:31:32] One finally Kelly started developing her own heartbreed.

[1:31:36] She started breathing on her own.

[1:31:38] And at that point, they started rolling it

[1:31:39] to winter pass, but all which is right down the road.

[1:31:42] So if it wasn't for these three medics behind me,

[1:31:44] we wouldn't be here today.

[1:31:45] And I'd like to introduce you guys to Mr. Mrs. Luchaski.

[1:31:54] Thank you.

[1:31:56] What can I say?

[1:31:57] This is unbelievable.

[1:31:58] I'm so glad you guys are recognizing these guys.

[1:32:01] It's really, they turned up our pain into joy.

[1:32:05] It was an incredible story, she's doing better, she's recuperating, she would love to be here,

[1:32:10] but she had something else to do, and she just wants to send her appreciation too, so thank you very much, everyone.

[1:32:22] We have the greatest police medics in the world, and it's down.

[1:32:26] We have a great hospital system, went through up to a great job that they are doctors and nurses.

[1:32:32] But none of it, none of it would have been done if they didn't have the equipment that you gave

[1:32:36] that CPR machine, the defibrillator, all of that comes from you all recognizing what is

[1:32:43] important and putting it in the hands of the people to do their job.

[1:32:48] So today, on top of thanking our police medics, I want to thank all of you, and again,

[1:32:54] for giving us those opportunities to save lives and have stories like we have here today.

[1:32:59] Thank you.

[1:33:08] I'd like to echo Commissioner Ryder.

[1:33:10] I've been up here several times and you guys over the past two and a half years have

[1:33:13] spearheaded, putting on the ambulances, some of the cutting edge of equipment that we use

[1:33:17] to save lives daily. One of them is a CPU arm machine, and with commissioner riders

[1:33:22] full of thought, and you're backing every police ambulance has one of them, and I can only

[1:33:27] tell you, it's used every day, to save lives. Kelly is an amazing testament to be 29 to be an

[1:33:32] iron worker, and I just want to give a shout out to her co-workers who without them, and

[1:33:37] their quick actions, and guiding the ambulance and myself in, none of this would have been

[1:33:42] Well, true teamwork and amazing, amazing lady and we wish we're all the best.

[1:33:47] It's amazing to be involved and actually see someone so full of life come back to life

[1:33:52] and the three of us had the opportunity to meet her with what an amazing woman.

[1:33:55] So it was great stuff. Thank you.

[1:34:01] Thank you very much and thank you for the comments with respect to the equipment

[1:34:05] and that really is a small part of what you do.

[1:34:10] Obviously without the human element, the human skill,

[1:34:13] trading the dedication this type of thing doesn't happen and I think all of us are an

[1:34:19] or the fact that you walk into a situation in a dire emergency and act in a cool,

[1:34:25] confident, professional fashion and say people in the circumstances. That's the first thing

[1:34:31] I want to say. Secondly, we haven't seen you since the pandemic. We haven't had these ceremonies.

[1:34:36] And I want to say personally, I know behalf of all of us. Thank you for all of our

[1:34:40] It was like a war zone for you.

[1:34:43] I know it was night after night after night.

[1:34:46] One of the calls with people seriously on this,

[1:34:48] putting yourself in harm's way.

[1:34:50] So you really are doing God's works.

[1:34:51] So thank you for all that you do.

[1:34:57] I just want to come up for your citations.

[1:36:51] I just like the Lord's safer for a point of personal privilege.

[1:36:56] Good afternoon.

[1:36:58] I'd like to call Superintendent Finn up to the podium here.

[1:37:03] We're there two teachers, if you would.

[1:37:07] Thank you for your patience.

[1:37:09] And for coming today, so today I have the privilege of doing a point of personal privilege

[1:37:15] honoring two teachers from the core place school district.

[1:37:21] I understand you had a harrow experience this summer with one of your students that potentially

[1:37:26] could have been fatal.

[1:37:27] So I'm wondering if you can just give us a little bit of the information of what happened

[1:37:30] that day.

[1:37:32] Just press the red button.

[1:37:35] Yes.

[1:37:36] Christine Finn?

[1:37:37] I'm the proud superintendent of the CarPlay School District.

[1:37:41] One of the few districts that was open five days a week, K-12 since September, right

[1:37:46] through June and these two teachers were a big part of that.

[1:37:50] More importantly,

[1:37:53] they were responsible for saving the life of a student at a track

[1:37:56] being.

[1:37:57] And the parents could not be here today.

[1:37:59] They are out of the country, but I want to read a letter that they sent us.

[1:38:03] Dear Mr. Colmo and Miss Martino, words cannot thank you enough for your quick presence

[1:38:08] of mine and handling of our daughter's medical emergency at the track being at North Shore

[1:38:13] yesterday.

[1:38:14] This was on June 10.

[1:38:16] Thanks to both of you, and Epi-10 was administered quickly and Francesca felt better.

[1:38:21] No further treatment was needed at the hospital and our daughter was discharged after

[1:38:25] three hours.

[1:38:26] You also kept our other child calm and supported her as well.

[1:38:30] Although I may have seemed calm, I was thankful Mr. Komo and Ms. Martino that you had taken

[1:38:35] charge of the situation with the trainer and administered the Epipen because I was shaken.

[1:38:40] Both our daughters enjoy track this year very much and look forward to participating in

[1:38:45] it again next year.

[1:38:47] These two teachers, speedy reaction, Marissa running to the bus and grabbing the Epipen and

[1:38:52] Dan utilizing his medical background and keeping the girl calm and relaxed.

[1:38:56] such an important thing to know. Dan, great call, and having the pulse

[1:39:01] socks ready to go see that the oxygen levels are coming back. We are proud of

[1:39:05] both of you. You're an excellent team. You made the right call and kept your

[1:39:09] cool under a tremendous amount of pressure. Let away the end of great year and

[1:39:13] joy the rest of the school year you made a difference. Thank you so much. Thank you so

[1:39:18] much. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Cuomo, Mr. Martino again. I just want to thank you.

[1:39:25] They don't have to, that's okay.

[1:39:28] Just thank you so much for being here and to really thank you for springing into action the way you did.

[1:39:33] You know, everything's been so difficult, especially for our school teachers and our superintendents over the last year and a half.

[1:39:40] To have this on top of it, it's just wonderful to know there are people that are working in school districts who have this kind of emergency training.

[1:39:48] And who can do something like this and save a student.

[1:39:52] So thank you again.

[1:39:53] If you don't mind coming out here, it should be well.

[1:39:55] Absolutely, come on up here, thank you.

[1:39:57] We are a small group.

[1:40:11] We're going to see the public comment process.

[1:40:13] So what we have for each meeting is a public comment section,

[1:40:17] where you can speak on issues of general interest.

[1:40:21] Anyone who's going to speak on the discrimination

[1:40:23] against first responders build, that will be called

[1:40:26] in a couple of moments.

[1:40:27] But anyone who was here to speak on a general hydrant

[1:40:41] is at the wait one moment until they come back.

[1:40:42] Do you

[1:40:48] want to speak in sub-the town?

[1:40:49] Come on up.

[1:40:53] Press the button.

[1:40:56] Can you hear me?

[1:40:59] Hi, my name is Bruce.

[1:41:00] Uh, grew up in Newcastle.

[1:41:08] Bruce Hammond's.

[1:41:11] So, uh, one thing that I want to talk about

[1:41:13] was we have heard stories about

[1:41:16] obviously officers serving the community

[1:41:18] and rendering aid.

[1:41:21] I would like to understand why

[1:41:24] there is not a single officer in this room

[1:41:26] wearing a mask right now.

[1:41:29] And I would like an answer from the commissioner about why not one.

[1:41:35] I saw one officer happen to be a black man.

[1:41:40] He was in the back of the room.

[1:41:42] The only one wearing a mask in this room.

[1:41:45] So, how we supposed to expect people to render aid for us

[1:41:54] when they're not even protecting their own lives?

[1:41:57] I would like to understand that if the commission is still in the room,

[1:42:06] or anyone from

[1:42:07] National County PD brass, is in this room I would like to understand the decision behind

[1:42:13] that, because there were young people that went around this entire room and offered each

[1:42:17] and every one of you masks and none of you took them, and I'd like to understand why.

[1:42:43] Mr. Lafazard, me pointing that out is that, is that a hate crime in my bullying right

[1:42:48] Now,

[1:43:01] I'm right here.

[1:43:04] I'm...

[1:43:05] Josh, I'm right here.

[1:43:11] Is that...

[1:43:12] Is that covered in your garbage legislation?

[1:43:14] I just get involved in your rent for...

[1:43:19] Right.

[1:43:20] Yes, I get involved in someone else, Josh.

[1:43:22] Hold on a second.

[1:43:23] I'm done.

[1:43:24] Thank you.

[1:43:30] Mr.

[1:43:33] Microchip.

[1:43:34] Microchip, please call the roll, please.

[1:43:36] Hello, my name is Irene.

[1:43:39] Madam, I have to call the roll.

[1:43:40] Thank

[1:43:47] you for

[1:43:51] joining me.

[1:43:54] Thank you for joining Officer.

[1:43:56] Deputy Residing Officer, Howard Coupall.

[1:44:00] Alternate Deputy Residing Officer Denise Ford.

[1:44:04] Legislative Cilla Bino.

[1:44:07] Legislative Carrier Salage.

[1:44:10] Thank you. Legislative Deputy Muley.

[1:44:14] Legislative C William Gainwell III.

[1:44:19] Thank you. Legislative Vincent Musquirella. Legislative Ellen Bernbaum. Legislative

[1:44:27] Delia Derrigi Whitten. Thank you. Legislative James Kennedy. Legislative Thomas McEvet.

[1:44:36] Legislative Laura Schafer.

[1:44:39] Yes. Thank you. Legislative John Foretty.

[1:44:47] Legislative Arnold

[1:44:50] Joshua Lafazan, Legislative Stephen Rhodes.

[1:44:55] Thank you, minority leader, Kovon Abraham's,

[1:44:59] residing over the...

[1:45:00] Richard Nickello here. We have a quorum, sir.

[1:45:03] Thank you.

[1:45:03] Do you have a submit a submit a slip?

[1:45:06] Ma'am, at the microphone, did you submit a submit a slip to speak?

[1:45:09] Yes, hi. My name is Irene Felita. I reside in Valley Street.

[1:45:15] Last summer, I participated in some of the marches on Long Island.

[1:45:20] I noticed then, as today, a lot of the police were not mass.

[1:45:25] But my main concern was that there were police officers with cameras, videotaping the protesters,

[1:45:37] and taking our photographs.

[1:45:39] I didn't know this was legal.

[1:45:41] I thought this was very chilling to our first amendment rights.

[1:45:45] I wrote a letter to the police department and I wrote a letter to Representative Kern, but

[1:45:51] I never received a reply.

[1:45:53] I would like to know what is the purpose of photographing, individual, protesters.

[1:46:03] I would like to know where those photographs are.

[1:46:12] Secondly, I was at another march in my town in Valley Stream, and we were walking down

[1:46:19] Rockaway Boulevard.

[1:46:22] The police told us that if we didn't get onto the sidewalk, we would be subject to arrest.

[1:46:29] Many of us got on to the sidewalk and then we were told that we were libel for arrest for blocking pedestrian traffic.

[1:46:40] This was on a sidewalk where there was not a pedestrian to be seen.

[1:46:49] So, I just want to know what kind of democracy we live in.

[1:46:58] I want to know what our first amendment rights are because it seems to me so far from what I've seen.

[1:47:06] This has been a little bit of a chariote.

[1:47:08] It's been eye-opening.

[1:47:10] Thank you.

[1:47:20] All right.

[1:47:21] We are going to go to the consent count.

[1:47:23] This will take a few moments.

[1:47:25] This is all items.

[1:47:26] That works with committees a couple of weeks ago.

[1:47:28] It's been agreed upon by the majority and minority.

[1:47:30] That no further debate of discussion is needed at this time.

[1:47:34] And that we can just move to a vote on these items.

[1:47:40] So, let me call them off.

[1:47:42] I'm 10 occurred.

[1:47:44] I'm 11, 1066, 1267, 13,

[1:47:51] 168, 14, 169, 15, 177,

[1:47:56] 177, 172, 173, 191, 174,

[1:48:02] Twenty-one,

[1:48:15] twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one

[1:49:38] Just one correction. We are pulling out of the consent calendar item 31 resolution 1-18.

[1:49:45] So that is not part of the consent calendar. It's not what I mean.

[1:49:49] That's what's going to be voted on the moment.

[1:49:51] Move by Deputy Attorney Officer Copel, seconded by minority leader Abraham, President of the

[1:49:56] Bay of the discussion. Here are nine all in favor signify by saying aye.

[1:50:00] Aye. Those opposed. They all pass unanimously. 18 to nothing.

[1:50:05] And now moving on to a calendar.

[1:50:07] Item one is a hearing and a proposed local law number.

[1:50:10] It doesn't have a number yet.

[1:50:12] A proposed local law to amend the National Accounting Administrative Code and

[1:50:16] Resolution to in relation to amending the National Accounting Human Rights Law

[1:50:20] to preclude discrimination against first responders.

[1:50:23] This is to open the hearing.

[1:50:25] Motion by a legislative officer and an open hearing,

[1:50:28] seconded by a legislative, the Reggie Witten.

[1:50:30] All in favor of opening hearing signify by saying aye.

[1:50:32] I, those opposed, carries unanimously.

[1:50:36] What we'll do is let's, let's the left, say we'll say if we words about this bill, then again we're going to open up to public comments,

[1:50:44] comment on this to an adhering.

[1:50:47] I have a number of slips.

[1:50:48] If you did not complete a slip already, please do so and give it to the clerk.

[1:50:56] Just speak after the hearing.

[1:50:58] All right, so here's what we're going to do.

[1:51:00] We're going to

[1:51:08] give, I would like to invite up this time,

[1:51:09] It's the Bryant Sullivan present of the correct synopsis benevolent of the society's

[1:51:25] good afternoon everybody

[1:51:27] Shots getting

[1:51:29] I believe there is no mandate and as an American citizen, I have the right to use a mask or not wear a mask

[1:51:37] And a whole lot including my own brother, man

[1:51:41] Including my own brother, and I'm vaccinated my own brother who was killed died in a nursing home

[1:51:46] One of Cuomo's nursing home

[1:51:48] But that's not why I'm here today

[1:51:50] All right, well, we're going to, that is not why I'm here today.

[1:51:53] Wait, wait, wait a second, no.

[1:51:55] Brian, wait a second.

[1:51:57] Brian, wait a second.

[1:51:58] Now, look, do I have 50 steps away?

[1:52:01] Wait, wait, wait, wait, before you start, I have 50 slips.

[1:52:04] If you're going to stop it through this, if you're going to interrupt,

[1:52:06] everyone who speaks,

[1:52:11] I don't know if we can do that.

[1:52:12] But listen, when the people up there speak and they have a right to speak,

[1:52:16] and we have a right to hear them.

[1:52:17] So whatever your comments are about whether you like them,

[1:52:20] dislike them or whatever, keep them to yourselves and let that person

[1:52:23] speak and have his time for the legislature.

[1:52:25] Everybody else have this, aren't.

[1:52:28] Thank you, sir.

[1:52:28] Why are we here today?

[1:52:31] It's the judgment of this legislative body and the directs experience of those of us in

[1:52:35] law enforcement that the recent widespread pattern of physical attacks, lawlessness, and

[1:52:39] intimidation directed at law enforcement as undermined the several liberties of the

[1:52:44] communities at large.

[1:52:47] You may recognize some of these things that I took directly from the bill.

[1:52:50] This legislature expressly in this bill disavows, and any attempt to excuse or minimize the

[1:52:58] gravity of incidents of law enforcement misconduct that have occurred anywhere in this

[1:53:02] country, especially those that may have been motivated by racial intolerance.

[1:53:07] Law enforcement does, in fact, join in condemning such misconduct.

[1:53:11] But those acts of misconduct by law enforcement can never, and any circumstances, justify the

[1:53:17] of all law enforcement or any other acts of violence, whatever whatsoever, directed at law

[1:53:23] enforcement, including the correction officers that I represent.

[1:53:28] Law enforcement is, that's, I guess that's funny.

[1:53:32] Law enforcement is essential to protecting the constitutional rights of all citizens to

[1:53:36] protest to protect freedom of speech or to protect our citizens from those who would use

[1:53:41] threats and violence to silence those with whom they disagree with or to enforce conformity

[1:53:46] thought. The civil human and constitutional rights of everyone are jeopardized when law enforcement

[1:53:52] is prevented from carrying out their duties, and in particular while protecting the lives

[1:53:56] and livelihoods of all people in this country. So what are we talking about? Human rights

[1:54:04] and human rights, and it's my turn to speak, sir.

[1:54:12] I got all day. I have all day. Human rights

[1:54:17] protecting everyone from a lawless behavior. Doesn't law enforcement deserve the same human rights

[1:54:24] respect and dignity that everyone they are sworn to protect us. They don't. Okay. And when

[1:54:31] that's violated to make them hold in the instances where they are injured at the hands of lawless

[1:54:36] individuals. I for one do not go to work every day thinking this is the day I'm going to get a salted

[1:54:42] bit punch-stabbed, and oh well, that's just part of my job, that's how it works.

[1:54:48] Organized violence or individual violence undermines the very foundation of our society and prevents

[1:54:54] citizens from engaging in peaceful civil protest. As you all know, as everyone on this day

[1:55:01] as knows, I have personally led protests here at this very building on numerous occasions going back

[1:55:07] years. As a union leader, I do, indeed, review the rights of all Americans to peacefully assemble

[1:55:13] as we've done here today for the most part, to air our grievances and freely express

[1:55:18] our views. These are the very basis of our constitutional rights that are preserved for

[1:55:23] all people. Violence directly at those who are sworn to uphold the law will only cause

[1:55:29] greater lawlessness, undermine our society and harm everyone in the end. Therefore, I firmly

[1:55:35] support this legislation that will seek to protect the basic human rights of any first

[1:55:40] responder, making it fundamental that anyone who commits harassment, menacing, assault,

[1:55:45] or closing injury as defined in the law, to that first responder shall be deemed an

[1:55:49] unlawful discriminatory practice and they shall be held accountable for those actions.

[1:55:55] I commend Legislator Lafazan, Legislator Durrigan Whitten, and all Legislators who sponsored

[1:55:59] this bill today.

[1:56:00] Thank you.

[1:56:03] Thank you, Frank.

[1:56:04] Thank you,

[1:56:12] Frank.

[1:56:13] James McDonough, President of the National County PBA.

[1:56:27] Good afternoon, everyone.

[1:56:30] I'm going to take this war.

[1:56:31] I don't know who it is.

[1:56:34] It was closed.

[1:56:36] It was closed.

[1:56:37] And I am the PBA president.

[1:56:38] I know that a few people in a backdoor debt

[1:56:42] that it wasn't me.

[1:56:44] It was a solid, bright, solid, and it was just spoke.

[1:56:50] Yes, so county police officers,

[1:56:51] but their own health, safety, and well-being on a line every day.

[1:56:57] Yes, we did.

[1:56:58] We signed up for that.

[1:57:00] While facing anti-police sentiment under intense scrutiny,

[1:57:04] our offices, time and time again,

[1:57:05] can talk themselves with the utmost professionalism.

[1:57:09] And which has earned them the respect of every community

[1:57:11] in NASA County,

[1:57:14] particularly first responders

[1:57:15] during the COVID crisis.

[1:57:19] NASA County law enforcement deserves

[1:57:21] the support of our elected officials.

[1:57:23] and every possible protection to keep them safe throughout the course of their duties.

[1:57:29] Any attempt to say otherwise, this respects all who wear the badge.

[1:57:34] We applaud the NASA County legislation who continue to stand up for law and order

[1:57:38] and support our police during this unprecedented time.

[1:57:43] It's important to acknowledge that our members, both in uniform,

[1:57:46] Plain clothes, our supervisors, have made NASA County the safest place to live in America.

[1:57:58] This did not happen by chance, but by the continued support of government and a public

[1:58:05] we serve.

[1:58:06] I want to thank all of you for your time and your consideration.

[1:58:11] Thank you very much.

[1:58:12] Look at James,

[1:58:18] John Wickhouse, President of the D.A.I.,

[1:58:30] but, after known again,

[1:58:33] local law enforcement

[1:58:34] depends on elected government officials to stand with them now more than ever. The actions

[1:58:40] of the dedicated members of the Nesal County Police Department ensure Nesal County remains

[1:58:45] the safest large county in the United States. Local government has an obligation to protect

[1:58:51] those who protect the residents of Nessau County.

[1:58:55] Even during this time, when it's popular to align oneself with the anti-police culture in

[1:59:00] this country, law enforcement officers remain vigilant and ready to respond to anyone

[1:59:06] in need without hesitation.

[1:59:09] DAI members are in service to the residents of Nessau County and routinely placed themselves

[1:59:14] in harm's way to safeguard everyday citizens.

[1:59:17] No law enforcement officer should be subjected to verbal abuse, intimidation, threats, or any other

[1:59:26] unlawful conduct directed at him or her simply for performing the job they took the

[1:59:32] salamoth to do.

[1:59:34] Thank you, Dua.

[1:59:35] Legislate of Lafazand, Drucker and the Reggie Witton for sponsoring this bill.

[1:59:39] Thank you.

[1:59:48] Recreciate President of the National County Superior Officers.

[2:00:04] Thank you, sir.

[2:00:08] Thank you.

[2:00:12] Let's start again.

[2:00:13] Good afternoon.

[2:00:14] I'm Rick Assetty, the president of the National County Police Department,

[2:00:17] Perry Office Association.

[2:00:19] I want to thank all of you for taking the time to listen to me,

[2:00:22] and I would like to thank you for reinstit,

[2:00:26] instituting the top cop awards.

[2:00:28] Next month, I'll be back with President Winkhouse,

[2:00:30] and we have an excellent top cop for you.

[2:00:33] that will be one, that is one of the most important ones, and

[2:00:40] ones that will never forget. It really highlights the things that will

[2:00:43] enforce most face every day. With this bill, I'd like to thank legislators

[2:00:48] Lafazan, the Reggie Witten, Drunk of Farmbound, a co-sponsoring bill

[2:00:52] 187-21. I would like to thank the rest of you that support this bill,

[2:00:57] especially, I'd just like to thank the bill for putting this bill forward. This bill

[2:01:00] is truly bipartisan.

[2:01:02] I would like to start by explaining who we are.

[2:01:06] Who are your first responders?

[2:01:08] We are your mothers, your fathers, your brothers, your sisters.

[2:01:12] We are your children.

[2:01:13] Some of us are even grandparents.

[2:01:16] We are your neighbors.

[2:01:17] We are your coaches.

[2:01:18] We are your religion teachers.

[2:01:20] We are black.

[2:01:21] We are white.

[2:01:22] We are Hispanic.

[2:01:23] We are gay.

[2:01:24] We are straight.

[2:01:25] We are Democrats.

[2:01:27] We are Republicans.

[2:01:28] And we are independents.

[2:01:29] It is truly a shame that I have to be up here defending a bill that should be non-controversial,

[2:01:35] but that's not the case.

[2:01:37] National County was recently named the safest county in America.

[2:01:41] That was not an accident.

[2:01:43] It was because of a hard work of the leadership of this police upon.

[2:01:47] It was because of the supervisors, detectives, police officers, and civilian employees alike.

[2:01:52] And it was because of you, the National County legislators and the county executives

[2:01:56] that give us the tool to do our job.

[2:01:58] And we thank you for that, and we thank you for your support.

[2:02:01] This Peshia was like no other.

[2:02:04] COVID hit us hard.

[2:02:05] Now, so County was really hit hard, and so, the members

[2:02:08] about the police department and members of my union.

[2:02:12] We had members that were extremely sick, and we had members that

[2:02:15] almost died.

[2:02:17] We had members that were forced to retire, and so much still suffering.

[2:02:22] Sorry, you are rude.

[2:02:23] You want to come up here and speak all in that same word.

[2:02:25] You are very rude.

[2:02:28] Like the rest of you, and most of the county, we didn't have this opportunity to perfect

[2:02:33] Zoom or Microsoft Teams.

[2:02:36] We all had to show up day after day wearing masks and gloves like we always do.

[2:02:41] Unfortunately, some of us got sick and brought her home to our loved ones, but we answered

[2:02:47] all the 911 calls.

[2:02:49] We never asked what the race the caller was.

[2:02:52] We never asked what color the caller was, because this does not matter to us and makes no

[2:02:56] difference to any of us.

[2:02:58] It was nice for a while that first response is a law enforcement was spoken about highly

[2:03:03] and we even put on a pedestal for a while, just like after 9-11.

[2:03:07] That didn't last for long.

[2:03:09] This past year we had countless protests in this county, many were against law enforcement.

[2:03:15] But we do what we are trying to do.

[2:03:17] We act professionally, and we preserve the peace and the right to protest peacefully.

[2:03:23] Many times the protest is what's screaming in our faces, inches away from us, and our

[2:03:30] officers and supervisors did what they were trying to do.

[2:03:33] They stood there and they let the people protest.

[2:03:36] You try being screamed at what the person and each from your face, especially during COVID.

[2:03:42] This bill really just highlights the protections we already have that I, that all of you voted on a couple of years ago, and it passed 90 to zero.

[2:03:53] And they all voted for it, every one of you.

[2:03:56] Unlike those that suggest otherwise, this law does not create a different or an easiest stand for discrimination or harassment.

[2:04:03] Rather, it uses definitions already contained in the law.

[2:04:07] The bill is important because we see day after day law enforcement officers and first respond is being targeted.

[2:04:14] Not because they are white or black or straight or gay, but only because they wear a uniform.

[2:04:20] One of the most important functions of government is to protect its citizens and we are your citizens.

[2:04:27] We shouldn't be discriminated upon or targeted because of our profession or because of the uniform we wear.

[2:04:34] But now it might not be politically correct and some of you waver.

[2:04:39] I hope you think about your vote and you vote for what you believe in.

[2:04:43] Not because you feel pressured by the loudest voices in this room or the few that are here,

[2:04:49] that are noisy and that seek publicity or notoriety.

[2:04:53] I personally seek neither.

[2:04:56] We need to protect those that protect the community and we need to make this the safest county in America.

[2:05:01] Thank you, and have a good summer.

[2:05:09] Thank you, Rick.

[2:05:14] Assemblyman Chuck Leveen.

[2:05:33] I want to thank, uh, presiding officer, Nikolello,

[2:05:37] and minority leader Abraham, and the members of this legislature

[2:05:42] for allowing me the opportunity to speak.

[2:05:47] Briefly, I'm going to leave copies of my remarks for the record

[2:05:51] right here.

[2:05:52] So I'm not here just as the head of the Nassau County delegation in the state assembly.

[2:06:05] I am here more significantly because I am an American citizen and I am a citizen of Nassau County.

[2:06:14] I am as well a proud member of the NWACP.

[2:06:18] I urge, I'm going to ask, I'm going to ask, I want to say something, off, this is not part of my remarks.

[2:06:27] As Tom McKevatt knows, this is probably pretty tame compared to what we're used to in the New York State Assembly.

[2:06:32] But I'm going to ask people to listen, listen to what everyone has to say, whether we like it or you don't like it.

[2:06:41] When we lose civility, we will have lost everything in this nation.

[2:06:46] And we are all battling, please, no applause.

[2:06:50] So I urge, now I'm going back on script.

[2:06:52] I urge the legislature to lay Bill 187-21,

[2:06:58] quote, upon the table, unquote, as is provided for by

[2:07:03] Roberts rules, order, and Mason's manual,

[2:07:07] legislative procedure, and all other parliamentary rules.

[2:07:10] I think this bill requires further analytic consideration, and it's debate demands much more

[2:07:20] public involvement, as far as constitutional concern.

[2:07:25] The bill may very well inhibit the free speech provisions of not only our federal, but

[2:07:32] our state constitution as well.

[2:07:34] NASA residents, we, NASA residents are really fortunate to live in one of our nation's safest communities.

[2:07:45] Communication between our citizens and our law enforcement professionals is just one factor contributing to that

[2:08:04] enhancing that communication, after all, we are all in this together.

[2:08:11] I am deeply troubled

[2:08:14] that this bill is hurtful to friends and neighbors,

[2:08:22] so very many

[2:08:23] of our friends and neighbors who have paid a monumental price in suffering in our uniquely

[2:08:32] American struggle for equality, dignity, justice, and human rights.

[2:08:39] Our goal,

[2:08:42] thank you, our goal as legislators, must be to build bridges, bridges to

[2:08:50] be crossed by all of our citizens, not to construct painful barriers.

[2:08:57] I learned of this bill late on the evening of July 27.

[2:09:00] multiple thousands of NASA citizens who will be affected remain unaware that the legislature may adopt its provisions today.

[2:09:13] I respectfully urge this legislature to delay the vote and host more extensive public forums so that we may all benefit from the voices and the views of all our people.

[2:09:27] Again, I thank you for what you do, it's never easy, and I thank you for the opportunity to speak today and for your consideration, respecting this matter.

[2:09:37] Thank you all.

[2:09:55] Thank you, Assemblyman Levine.

[2:09:58] We have Mayor Hobbes from the Village of Hempster.

[2:10:09] Clearly, I am not Mayor Hobbes from the Village of Hempster.

[2:10:12] I am the assistant to Mayor Hobbes in the incorporated village of Hempster.

[2:10:22] also serve as the proud pastor of the Union Baptist Church in the village of himstead as well.

[2:10:30] Today I stand before you,

[2:10:35] insulted and in disbelief by this racist and insensitive and disrespectful

[2:10:46] bill,

[2:10:51] clearly, clearly,

[2:10:55] many of you don't understand systemic racism in America.

[2:11:09] It is funny to me how you see harassment, assault, verbal abuse, witness to watch police.

[2:11:23] But become conveniently blind when it's directed at black and brown people all across

[2:11:39] And this day has profoundly confused me.

[2:11:46] I'm from Virginia,

[2:11:50] the Commonwealth of Virginia.

[2:11:53] But today I thought for a moment I was in the deep south of Alabama or Mississippi.

[2:12:03] This bill gives us the picture.

[2:12:06] Josh of the days of Bull Connor, you need to read about him.

[2:12:13] Why would someone elect it?

[2:12:15] by the people, even think, Josh, this is all right,

[2:12:25] yes we need first responders,

[2:12:28] absolutely we need police officers, absolutely we want to live in a civil society,

[2:12:35] but we also want laws that are fair, not just to those who look like many of you, but those who

[2:12:45] also look like me,

[2:12:52] how many years black and brown people have been assaulted and harassed

[2:13:01] and verbally abused even by police officers in this county and in this nation.

[2:13:12] And there hasn't been any legislation by you, Josh,

[2:13:18] to protect us, how insensitive this

[2:13:24] in the home incisitive this is on the backs of the Black Lives Matter movement. And even

[2:13:31] all today where we are in the midst of a pandemic where we're in a mask even here today

[2:13:36] has become a black and white issue.

[2:13:41] And lastly, Josh, you don't seem to be paying attention

[2:13:46] today. Last time, the last time we were together,

[2:13:52] you shook my hand, wanted me to come for

[2:13:54] support, and I came.

[2:13:58] Your young man, I thought you had a bright future.

[2:14:04] You might be politically

[2:14:04] dead after today.

[2:14:18] Go, because I got to pick up my little black and brown children. But

[2:14:21] listen, I want to share with you,

[2:14:26] good with you when you champion, naming a building after

[2:14:31] the Shirley Chism, and now you champion a bill against everything that Shirley Chism stood

[2:14:39] for.

[2:14:47] It makes no sense. I've been pastoring all the 20s some years. Josh, I can tell you,

[2:14:53] I know sheep in wolves' clothes.

[2:15:07] Defend, depend Maj. Jeff D Angels.

[2:15:11] Defend, depend, depend Maj. Jeff D Angels.

[2:15:14] Hey, listen, guys. If it keeps up, I'm going to clear the room.

[2:15:18] We're going to bring one speaker in, at this time.

[2:15:20] If you don't want that to happen,

[2:15:22] then just settle down. Let's listen to the speakers.

[2:15:25] Let's stop the name call.

[2:15:27] Jeff D Angels, the depend, depend, depend, depend, depend, depend.

[2:15:30] Okay.

[2:15:33] Tracy Edwards, end of the list, he if you take

[2:15:57] it.

[2:16:11] Sorry for taking a moment.

[2:16:16] So I am here today with our New York State President, Hazel Lendukes, who is seated in

[2:16:23] the back, and also

[2:16:27] all of the National County presidents.

[2:16:34] My name is Tracy Edwards, and I am the Long Island Regional Director of the NAACP.

[2:16:38] But before I give you my remarks, I would like you to hear legislator Joshua Lafazans remarks last year.

[2:16:51] Because you will see that we need to know today, which legislator aren't.

[2:16:58] Are you the legislator who wrote that draft that contradicted both county executive current and police commissioner,

[2:17:07] writer who praise the protesters in Nassau County, or are you this legislator here who

[2:17:16] talked about the systemic racism in Nassau County and how your ancestors Josh, look

[2:17:22] at me, Josh, your ancestors, Josh, who stood with African Americans as they fought for

[2:17:31] voting right, which legislator are you.

[2:17:50] How are you doing today?

[2:17:51] I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on the show.

[2:17:53] Oh, absolutely.

[2:17:54] Let them know what legislative district you represent.

[2:17:57] There's 19 legislators in National County.

[2:18:01] It used to be supervisors and then they went into the form

[2:18:04] of legislators, what, what, again, district you represent them.

[2:18:10] What would you like to say about the national theme?

[2:18:12] And of course, what happened to George Floyd,

[2:18:15] what's his name?

[2:18:17] George Floyd has the crowd calls out.

[2:18:19] What do you want to say?

[2:18:20] Sure.

[2:18:21] So again, my name is Josh Lathazen.

[2:18:22] I have the privilege of representing District 18 in the legislature.

[2:18:26] So I asked it, West to rise on north of the Davials, the Northeast National County.

[2:18:30] What I want to say first and foremost is, of course, I condemn the horrific killing of George Floyd.

[2:18:35] And those who came before him, but as I said in the video, I posted on Facebook.

[2:18:38] It's not enough just to condemn.

[2:18:41] We must take action to make sure that we put safeguards in the place, so that what happened to George Floyd

[2:18:45] knows before him never happens again.

[2:18:47] But I'm working on hearing an asshole county, one of the most segregated counties in the nation, is that in order to fix a problem, we have to acknowledge and exist in the first place.

[2:18:56] So I'm looking to gather a coalition, and especially young people, where the largest, most diverse generation in the history of this country, and that's why young people is so great to see them on the front lines of this movement.

[2:19:07] But we have to understand that National County has a dark past with systemic racism and injustice.

[2:19:13] About how Robert Moses built bridges solo, so Black residents couldn't go to our beaches.

[2:19:19] About how many of our grandparents came back from the war and moved to suburbs like Leviton,

[2:19:24] backed by low interest federal loans that weren't available to Black Americans.

[2:19:29] Many of whom just fought in that very same war.

[2:19:31] We have issues here in terms of segregation in terms of unequal school funding.

[2:19:35] where you have a school like Hemstead, majority of black and Latino,

[2:19:38] with an average student spending per pupil of about 22,000.

[2:19:42] You move one block over to Garden City,

[2:19:44] 77% white, and they spend $7,500 more per pupil.

[2:19:49] These are facts.

[2:19:50] So what I'm working on is we have to get these facts out to the people,

[2:19:53] and we have to move to level the playing field.

[2:19:55] If we don't have a level playing field, we have what we have now,

[2:19:58] which is privileged.

[2:19:59] So I'm working on bringing out folks in white communities

[2:20:02] to recognize it acknowledge that white privilege is real.

[2:20:04] It is real.

[2:20:06] We have to get to an equal playing field.

[2:20:09] That, to me, is egalitarianism and is finest.

[2:20:12] When anybody born in any zip code in this country can make it

[2:20:16] you can make it here.

[2:20:17] That is American and nutshell.

[2:20:20] And as the son, sorry, is the grandson of a Holocaust refugee.

[2:20:23] My grandfather always told me how the Jewish community

[2:20:26] stood with the Black community.

[2:20:28] Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel marched with Dr. King.

[2:20:32] Mickey Schwerner and the freedom that they were killed and the stuff for registering black voters to folk

[2:20:37] The heroism of these people that Jewish communities do with the black community time and time again

[2:20:41] I knew it will continue and I know that my future children are going to ask me what we did during this moment James always says

[2:20:47] What are you going to tell your kids and what are you going to tell folks in a few years and what you did during this moment?

[2:20:52] I'm not going to tell my son on the sidelines and I hope you don't either

[2:20:56] I'm proud to be a friend of James

[2:20:57] I'm proud to have a mentor and coach me during this moment

[2:21:06] So I ask you today, Josh, when you called me to come stand with you because of the Asian hate that was going through your community.

[2:21:21] Those individuals were targeted and what you are doing with this bill is you are taking a profession

[2:21:31] and you are putting that chosen profession above all of those people who fought during the civil rights movement in 1964.

[2:21:42] You are putting a profession above those through the Edmund Pettis Bridge, Stonewall, women's rights.

[2:21:53] All of us have to prove discrimination. You are disrespecting all of us. Do you understand me?

[2:22:01] You are disrespecting all of us. And I will say, he has because of a political campaign.

[2:22:12] He has lost his way, but I am asking all of you not to do that, and as an example, today we went through back and forth about the mass, okay?

[2:22:25] There are gross re-workers in Nassaure County that are targeted and harassed and menace, because they are asking people to wear a mask. What about them?

[2:22:37] Are you going to put them in the bill as well?

[2:22:40] What about all the young people who we have encouraged to come and peaceful protest?

[2:22:46] And if someone wants to target them, we are going to then rack them up with judgments and fines.

[2:22:54] Is that the new way of Nassau County?

[2:22:57] You should be ashamed of yourself, Legislator Drucker.

[2:23:00] A shame of yourself.

[2:23:04] A shame of yourself.

[2:23:06] This cannot be the Nassau County.

[2:23:08] This cannot be.

[2:23:10] You're happy that CNN contacted me today.

[2:23:14] You wanted to have the national attention.

[2:23:16] This is what you want it to be.

[2:23:19] The NAACP will stand strong against any of you.

[2:23:23] Any of you.

[2:23:30] Any of you.

[2:23:31] Any of you.

[2:23:32] We have died.

[2:23:33] We have died for the civil rights movement.

[2:23:36] We say enough.

[2:23:38] Our state president is here.

[2:23:40] She came from vacation to, she lived in that sort of county.

[2:23:44] She knows all of you.

[2:23:45] Enough of this, Josh.

[2:23:47] Wanna fair campaign and lose our win on your merit?

[2:23:52] Okay?

[2:23:53] You lose, oh, we're don't cry now.

[2:23:55] Don't cry.

[2:23:56] You stand up.

[2:23:57] You stand up and you do what's right.

[2:24:00] Don't be a hypocrite, okay?

[2:24:02] That's what you are being a hypocrite.

[2:24:04] And you are dragging all of your colleagues into this

[2:24:09] because of your political cowardness.

[2:24:13] Shame on you.

[2:24:15] Shame on you.

[2:24:17] Shame on you.

[2:24:18] Shame on you.

[2:24:26] Leslie Davis.

[2:24:28] And I'm lazy, please.

[2:24:31] Good afternoon, all.

[2:24:32] I was going to heal my time, but I guess my time is up.

[2:24:36] Thank you.

[2:24:38] I'll think about that.

[2:24:50] Police officers, if they are harassed,

[2:24:54] Like one of the PBA presidents said, they can arrest people.

[2:25:02] They can use the law.

[2:25:07] That's why we have legislation.

[2:25:12] We have wonderful police officers who can protect themselves.

[2:25:21] They do not need to have a human rights law

[2:25:26] to put them above all others.

[2:25:30] And that's what you are doing.

[2:25:31] You are taking that chosen sacred profession.

[2:25:38] And you are trying to put it above all others,

[2:25:44] because he has a tough campaign.

[2:25:50] That's what this is about.

[2:25:52] This is not about anything else.

[2:25:55] Read what he wrote in his bill

[2:25:59] And then listen to his words and the words of the county executive and the police commissioner who praised the protesters.

[2:26:13] What problem are you trying to solve in Nassau County?

[2:26:21] Because what I heard the PBA say is about what went on nationally.

[2:26:29] They did not bring up an incident in Nassau County, not one, not one, so presiding

[2:26:40] officer.

[2:26:42] Don't have this, the legacy of Nassau County because Josh has lost his way.

[2:26:50] He has lost the respect of our communities for evermore.

[2:26:57] But all of you have not, please consider this seriously, whether you are Republican, whether

[2:27:08] you are Democrat, especially there have they are women on this stage.

[2:27:15] And if any of you have feel that you are discriminated against because of all the wonderful

[2:27:22] women that stood before you. You have to prove it. This bill says you don't have to. So disregard

[2:27:33] legislative lafisan. I don't know what he's thinking about. I'm talking to all of you.

[2:27:42] Please don't lose your way. Thank you.

[2:27:58] David Kilnick.

[2:28:16] Well, good afternoon. Good afternoon.

[2:28:19] And can I, is on yet?

[2:28:22] My name is David Kilnick, I'm President and CEO of the LGBT Network, and I'm proud to stand

[2:28:27] here today with all my brothers and sisters from every single group that is truly discriminated

[2:28:33] against.

[2:28:33] As we stand together here in the majority to say no to this bill,

[2:28:45] I think I could be any more

[2:28:47] infuriated before coming here today, but that just went out, went out the door when the

[2:28:52] first few speakers came on to talk about this bill.

[2:28:55] But let's do a little bit of discrimination one-o-one here, right, because this bill says that we are going to, when you will, amend the human rights law to include police officers to be protected from discrimination.

[2:29:11] So discrimination one-o-one, the New York State Human Rights Law protects characteristics, including race, age, race, creed, color, national origin, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression,

[2:29:24] military status, sex, pregnancy, physical or mental disability, predisposed in genetic characteristics,

[2:29:31] familial status, marital status, status as a victim of domestic violence and arrest records and criminal

[2:29:36] convictions.

[2:29:37] There is no profession that is included in there.

[2:29:41] This would be a violation of the New York State Human Rights Law.

[2:29:44] And I don't know what attorney you have advising you, but I would suggest you fire them right

[2:29:49] away.

[2:29:55] Now, let me talk about what this is and what this is not.

[2:30:00] The issue is simple here. The issue in front of you today is simply about human rights and discrimination laws. Yes, it's a lot more.

[2:30:09] But you are looking at a bill that is simply about human rights and discrimination laws.

[2:30:16] It's not whether you support the police or not. You can actually be pro-police and against this bill, which you

[2:30:29] can be pro-police and against this bill, which makes a mockery of human rights,

[2:30:33] And the discrimination that tens of thousands of National County people and families face each day.

[2:30:40] Human rights and discrimination laws exist to protect those who are historically marginalized and oppressed in our society.

[2:30:49] No profession, no profession in and of itself would or should fit into these laws.

[2:30:57] And what this amounts to is a slap in the face to all of us who have to face discrimination day-in or threats of discrimination day-in and day-out are entire lives.

[2:31:12] It's a slap in the face to all people of color. It's a slap in the face to LGBTQ folks. It's a slap in the face to women. It's a slap in the face to disabled in other groups.

[2:31:22] You know, the questions that, you know, I want to go back to the first detective that's

[2:31:25] focused, detective Sullivan.

[2:31:27] He said that when he doesn't have to think, every day, he doesn't have to think about

[2:31:32] being attacked.

[2:31:33] Well, let me tell you, I do.

[2:31:35] I do.

[2:31:40] And just a week ago, I had Suffolk County detectives over my house because I received anonymous

[2:31:48] letters that were threatening to kill me, put a gun in my back, put a knife in my back, and

[2:31:53] eliminate me.

[2:31:54] You tell me that police officers are receiving those letters at home.

[2:31:59] They are not.

[2:32:00] It is not a protected class.

[2:32:02] Other folks are thinking, am I going to lose my job or even get an interview because of

[2:32:06] the color of my skin?

[2:32:07] Am I going to be beaten or murdered because I'm transgender?

[2:32:10] Can I walk down the street safely because I may not be holding hands with someone

[2:32:15] of the same gender?

[2:32:18] Those, that's the real threat that exists in our society.

[2:32:21] The threat of police officers being attacked just because their police officers is a bunch of nonsense and you know that.

[2:32:32] You know that.

[2:32:38] There is absolutely no data to support this bill.

[2:32:43] Now, one ounce, zilch, not a of data that shows police officers as a profession in and of itself is discriminated against.

[2:32:51] However, there is plenty of data which shows that there are police officers who are discriminated

[2:32:56] against, that is, if they are black, LGBTQ or women,

[2:33:07] which brings me to the original

[2:33:08] point that this bill fails in its merits substance and is not only morally wrong and dangerous,

[2:33:13] but also constitutionally wrong.

[2:33:15] I just have one final note here, and this goes to every single person sitting on this

[2:33:19] day and sub here.

[2:33:20] This legislative body, you, as the Nassau County Legislature, have failed for over a dozen years

[2:33:28] to add the transgender community as a protected class under the Nassau County Human Rights Law.

[2:33:36] Over a dozen years, you had a 90-year-old woman who came down here, transgender women, who came down here,

[2:33:42] deleted, pleaded with you to add transgender community under the human rights law.

[2:33:50] How dare you sit here today, Josh, Arnie, and the other sponsors, who I know very well,

[2:33:56] and all of you, because you all didn't do this.

[2:33:59] How dare you sit here today and tell of all of NASA's transgender community that a profession

[2:34:04] is more worthy of protection than their lives.

[2:34:08] How

[2:34:13] dare you tell the transgender community who are gunned down and murdered because of their gender

[2:34:20] identity that they are not worthy of protection, yet those who carry a gun are. Think about that.

[2:34:28] Transgender folks are gunned down each and every day, and you're here to protect a class of folks that carry a gun.

[2:34:34] That is obscene.

[2:34:37] It is disgusting and shameful.

[2:34:39] Do the right thing.

[2:34:40] Vote no on this bogus pill that is flawed in every way.

[2:34:43] And while you're in the mood to look at human rights and discrimination,

[2:34:47] add gender identity and expression into the Natsua County Human Rights Law once and for all.

[2:35:11] Daniel Oppenheimer.

[2:35:20] My name is Dan Oppenheimer.

[2:35:22] I'm a resident of the village of Hampstead.

[2:35:26] Local law 187 is unlikely to be allowed under the United States Constitution, because it

[2:35:33] violates Fifth Amendment protections regarding taking a property without due process

[2:35:39] of law, and the Eighth Amendment regarding excessive fines, and the New York State Constitution.

[2:35:47] If it has the effect of preventing peaceful demonstrations, such as the one that took place

[2:35:52] in front of this building on June 1, 2020, which I was at.

[2:35:59] That demonstration had upwards of 1,000 people,

[2:36:02] and was a good example of peaceful and necessary protest.

[2:36:07] This law is a solution in search of a problem

[2:36:10] that does not exist in NASA County when

[2:36:18] police

[2:36:18] are targeted in any way.

[2:36:21] They have legal and physical protections

[2:36:23] that are all too often not equally available to the public.

[2:36:29] Being a first responder is a hazardous job.

[2:36:32] I appreciate what the detectives described in ending that situation

[2:36:39] without a fatality, without themselves being shot,

[2:36:41] or without the emotionally disturbed person being shot.

[2:36:45] That is a real situation.

[2:36:48] Partially because of this officers have a unique status granting qualified immunity, which prevents

[2:36:54] them from being held accountable at trial for actions that injure and violate the civil

[2:36:59] rights of citizens in some cases, according to a story published in Forbes on April 29, 2021.

[2:37:08] NYPD officers were granted qualified immunity in around 100 cases over the past three years.

[2:37:14] An individual who attacks a police officer or injures them when the officer is lawfully carrying out their duty is rightfully subject to arrest and criminal prosecution for felonies and misdemeanors.

[2:37:28] When police do the same thing, they may evade prosecution.

[2:37:33] The only qualified immunity for everyone is the equal application and protection of local, state and federal laws.

[2:37:40] When the citizen is subject to fines and attorneys fees, without having been charged or convicted of a crime,

[2:37:47] which is what this law states, let me repeat that.

[2:37:51] When the citizen is subject to fines and attorneys fees, without having been charged or convicted of a crime,

[2:37:58] and the police officer has extraordinary protections, that is not equal protection under the law.

[2:38:04] The

[2:38:12] legislative intent of the proposed law quotes a report from the Justice Department claiming

[2:38:17] that over 700 officers have sustained injury in civil unrest since May of last year.

[2:38:24] In fact, there is no official justice department data which supports this claim.

[2:38:29] The allegation was taken from a New York Post story published on June 8, 2020.

[2:38:35] I repeat that there is no Justice Department data which supports this claim.

[2:38:40] The law would ultimately not benefit first responders and would suppress legal and vital

[2:38:47] protests and demonstrations.

[2:38:49] What would benefit law enforcement is more training for young cadets who may receive as

[2:38:55] little as six months of training at the academy.

[2:38:58] Cops do need support for depression, anxiety, and addiction, which contribute to a high suicide

[2:39:04] rate among veteran officers.

[2:39:07] If the sponsors of this bill are truly interested in the safety of first responders and

[2:39:14] residents of NASA County, provide more funding for mental health and addiction treatment

[2:39:19] for everyone,

[2:39:23] and give frontline responsibility for mental health calls to mental health

[2:39:27] professionals.

[2:39:28] That's another thing that the detective referred to.

[2:39:32] Cops do not need to sue citizens to feel safe and supported.

[2:39:36] This is not about citizen versus cops,

[2:39:43] just you have supported alcohol and drug treatment and mental health initiatives in the past.

[2:39:49] You would show far more support for first responders by continuing that work.

[2:39:53] In your efforts to sensationalize this issue, you risk bringing on the chaos that you are claiming to protect against.

[2:40:01] This is not a political stunt. It is a political stunt. It should not be a political stunt for your re-election.

[2:40:09] Thank you.

[2:40:19] Senequil 11.

[2:40:29] My name is Senequil 11, and I am the convener for Long Island United to transform police in the community safety,

[2:40:36] as well as the founder for the women's diversity network.

[2:40:39] We applaud the police that you honored here for doing the right thing, doing their job, and doing it correctly.

[2:40:46] I feel that we need the police, but let's not forget that there is also bias in policing.

[2:40:54] Not every police officer does their job with equity.

[2:40:58] When they don't, we have to stand up for ourselves.

[2:41:02] You're going to vote on a bill that basically takes away our rights to stand up for ourselves

[2:41:07] when those that do not do a good job can be rewarded and can retaliate against us and commit

[2:41:15] violence against us.

[2:41:17] Legislate of Lafazan.

[2:41:20] Last summer, a few of your former classmates

[2:41:22] asked you to take some accountability

[2:41:24] and address racial injustice

[2:41:27] and police brutality.

[2:41:29] You came to the rally

[2:41:30] and you spoke saying that you would use your privilege

[2:41:33] to make a difference.

[2:41:35] So why are you here pushing a dangerous

[2:41:38] and unconstitutional bill

[2:41:40] that would categorize police officers

[2:41:42] and first responders

[2:41:43] as a protected class and allowed them to sue an individual for up to $50,000 for harassment.

[2:41:52] That doesn't seem equitable, that doesn't seem bare, that doesn't feel like support.

[2:41:59] Without having to show proof also, this is a complete opposite of what community members advocated for

[2:42:08] when it came to police accountability and racial justice,

[2:42:11] a complete opposite of what you said you stood for.

[2:42:16] We, the community proposed police reforms

[2:42:18] that would make our vulnerable neighbors feel safer

[2:42:21] and said all of you, not all of you,

[2:42:25] a couple of y'all sustained.

[2:42:27] I'm refused to accept any meaningful reform.

[2:42:32] What is happening here is an example of systemic racism

[2:42:35] After the world watched, as Georgetown rose up, as George Floyd, a black man was brutally murdered by the police.

[2:42:46] Instead of passing meaningful reform, a plan that holds the National Police Accountable,

[2:42:52] y'all are on the verge of passing a law that holds community members who are tired of being harassed and overpoliced accountable.

[2:43:02] And let's not act like it doesn't happen in NASA or you have to settle suits for over 50 million dollars

[2:43:11] because it happens here in NASA.

[2:43:20] Every police force that refuses to listen to our communities and commits violence towards us

[2:43:26] will now be able to accuse us of a hate crime for criticizing them?

[2:43:31] Police have more than enough protections.

[2:43:33] We can't even get justice or accountability when they use unnecessary violence towards us.

[2:43:41] This bill is rooted in bias and rooted in hate.

[2:43:45] The data shows that we, the people, need more protections, not the damn police.

[2:43:55] This is very much a retaliation bill, because we stood up for ourselves and you can't shake your head and say that it's not.

[2:44:05] because that's what you wrote.

[2:44:08] At the end of the day, Legislator L'Apperson,

[2:44:11] and those democratic coastsponsors of yours,

[2:44:14] and the Legislators' response to the racist policing,

[2:44:17] it's a punish, block, and brown and ally community members

[2:44:21] who stood up to say, racism has no police and policing.

[2:44:25] You are not going to punish us for standing up for our rights.

[2:44:29] How dare you?

[2:44:31] And for the rest of the Legislator, I want to remind you

[2:44:35] that this will not affect black and brown people

[2:44:37] but the religious community, the LGBT community,

[2:44:41] the disabled community, it affects every single one of us,

[2:44:46] women who don't get paid equal, it affects all of us.

[2:44:50] Also, let's remember, women and minors are the most often bystanders recording

[2:44:55] and pleading for the health and safety and lives

[2:44:58] and freedoms of their loved ones.

[2:45:00] And so a full and victim to police misconduct. Legislators, you will be responsible for the women and

[2:45:06] minors who are sued because they came out to rescue for their significant others and their

[2:45:13] friends and families. Legislators, lapisans, one day, you're giving a young man

[2:45:19] citation for organizing rallies of justice and now you're threatening to give the police the

[2:45:26] to see them. Josh, I stood with you. When you wanted the county to rename the building

[2:45:32] after showleachism, I stood with you because you seemed to care about black lives. Josh,

[2:45:39] you interviewed me, but Northwell helped this part of your job dealing with diversity in equity.

[2:45:45] Is this what diversity in equity looks like to you? Are you just pretending to do the right

[2:45:51] for the public, but behind closed doors, your panzer into the PBA, and our constitutionally

[2:45:57] silencing protesters and community members is more important than the lives of the legislators

[2:46:02] considered your constituents. Y'all should be focusing on how to make the county equitable

[2:46:08] for all. You should be focusing on how to update our police system so that we do not have armed

[2:46:13] officers responsible for every safety issue. You should be focusing on holding the police

[2:46:18] accountable because the Attorney General has already called you out and told you that your plan

[2:46:24] was not holding the police accountable. Your county may have been raped the top and safety,

[2:46:31] but in that same report it was ranked the least in diversity. You should be focusing on that.

[2:46:37] Not retaliation against us for standing up for our rights when we had we should have been born with

[2:46:44] Instead of protecting the people because they chose a job, and I'm almost done, legislators,

[2:46:50] every yes vote is a disgrace to this county.

[2:46:55] Do not make police above the law.

[2:46:58] If you do, you will be sued.

[2:47:01] You're going to have to spend tax payer money to defend your unconstitutional actions.

[2:47:08] You're going to lose.

[2:47:09] but she will be remembered as a legislator who do not care about human rights.

[2:47:16] Is that the legacy you want to leave behind?

[2:47:19] Don't be a coward. Don't let the police be your vote.

[2:47:24] Sorry. Don't let the police be your boss.

[2:47:28] You be their boss. You be accountable to the voters who put you in office.

[2:47:34] Don't know on this bill. Just remove this bill. Thank you.

[2:47:50] Melanie Derego, here we go.

[2:48:02] I'm okay.

[2:48:02] Too much.

[2:48:03] I'm gonna keep my mask on.

[2:48:05] Thank you.

[2:48:07] Hello and good afternoon.

[2:48:09] My name is Melanie Derego.

[2:48:11] I'm a NASA County resident.

[2:48:13] I'm a community organizer and I'm a constituent of legislator Derego.

[2:48:18] Now I'm going to try not to be duplicated.

[2:48:20] I have to hit with my comments just in the spirit of time here.

[2:48:25] But I do have a few things to say.

[2:48:29] I'm also here, not just as myself, but with a petition here of several hundred long Islanders who have also signed a petition to ask you all to vote no on this bill.

[2:48:49] That this bill was introduced in earnest to support police.

[2:48:54] However, it is my belief and the belief of these hundreds of people that this bill would do the exact opposite.

[2:49:03] It would further road trust when trust between police and our community are at all time

[2:49:09] lows, and it would make our community less safe for existing protected classes

[2:49:15] who already fear the police.

[2:49:19] But what I really came here to talk about today was first amendment rights.

[2:49:24] Now, for those of you up here who know me and I know quite a few of you,

[2:49:29] know that I am a frequent user of my first amendment rights.

[2:49:37] spill would in fringe upon the right to free speech and the right to assemble.

[2:49:44] Now, from Martin Luther King, Congressman John Lewis, so

[2:49:48] I mentioned Shirley to his earlier glorious dinam and Brenda Howard.

[2:49:53] These are no doubt civil rights giants that I would imagine have influenced your careers.

[2:50:00] They all shaped our hardest thought civil rights battles with protest,

[2:50:07] Marching and using our first amendment rights.

[2:50:14] Do not do it to service to our civil rights giants.

[2:50:18] By passing this dangerous bill and moving us backwards in time.

[2:50:22] Now I have a tremendous amount of respect for public servants.

[2:50:26] And so I'm here today to ask you all to think about

[2:50:30] what it was that led you into public service.

[2:50:35] With this vote that you are about to take,

[2:50:38] you will define your legacy.

[2:50:40] Now you can choose to vote no on an unconstitutional bill.

[2:50:47] That's your choice. That's the one I would prefer.

[2:50:51] Or you can choose to have a dereliction of your duty to misrepresent your constituents and pass an unconstitutional bill.

[2:51:01] Now I don't think any one of you up here became public servants to repeal

[2:51:09] and further roll back our constitutional rights.

[2:51:14] Legislators are ready to witness.

[2:51:16] I know you personally, I know you care about our community.

[2:51:20] Legislators, Drucker, I've been in the streets with you protesting for human rights abuses.

[2:51:27] I'm going to ask every single one of you to think really hard before you make a vote here today.

[2:51:33] In a year where we have seen just how fragile our democracy is, I implore you, I implore you.

[2:51:43] Do not roll back our democracy.

[2:51:46] Do your duty and hold no on this bill.

[2:51:51] Thank you.

[2:52:00] Emily Kaufman.

[2:52:15] Good afternoon.

[2:52:17] This is not where I wanted to be today.

[2:52:19] On Monday afternoon, as I suspect.

[2:52:22] Most folks had other things we wanted to do today,

[2:52:24] nothing was more urgent than to be here and so here we are. My name is Emily Kaufman,

[2:52:30] I'm here representing Long Island United to transform policing and community safety.

[2:52:35] I've had the opportunity to stand in this legislative chamber to speak to this legislative body

[2:52:40] about police reform and we'll get to that in a minute.

[2:52:45] So I want to start by making sure we are clear as others have before me.

[2:52:49] My self, L.I. United, our partner coalitions, we are not anti-police officer.

[2:53:05] We are not anti-police officer, but what we are is anti-police state.

[2:53:19] That is not hyperbally.

[2:53:21] That is what this bill that you, Josh, are submitting bill 187-21 moves towards

[2:53:31] creating. As you've heard, it increases the power that individual police officers have

[2:53:37] over individual citizens and community. So as we've heard in the recording,

[2:53:44] that Ms. Tracy Edwards played today, which we can no longer find in your material

[2:53:49] strush, because you've removed it. That wasn't by accident. But what we know is this speech that

[2:53:58] prepared, helped by former friends and colleagues of yours. I know Nikhil Goyle helped.

[2:54:06] He's been trying to reach you, but you're not returning his calls.

[2:54:10] What we understand is that you're not ignorant. You actually do know the history of racial

[2:54:20] disparities, not only in this country, but right here in Nassau County. We know that

[2:54:27] understand systemic racism. We know that you understand what marginalized groups need

[2:54:37] in terms of heat crime protections as a fellow Jew, and I want to put your Jew

[2:54:43] card down, it's a disgrace, and it's offensive, and legislator Drucker, the same

[2:54:51] goes for you. I am deeply disappointed. So, we know that Commissioner Ryder spent all of

[2:55:00] last year talking about how peaceful protests were. How no riots occurred. How almost no

[2:55:08] arrest happened. So, as we've heard over and over, there is no evidence, no basis for this

[2:55:13] bill in reality. And as we've heard, time and again, we know that this is because you're

[2:55:20] afraid of your upcoming campaign, Josh. You are afraid you won't be reelected. You don't

[2:55:27] know where you stand with your constituents. Look around the room, Josh. CNN's covering

[2:55:35] this, Josh. In the words of the notorious B.I.G., if you don't know, now you know.

[2:55:47] So,

[2:55:53] since

[2:55:53] trying to do political calculation seems to be the only thing you're interested in these days.

[2:55:59] I suspect that after the flurry of negative media continues to flood you, and calls continue to come into your office,

[2:56:09] you might try some damage control after this.

[2:56:11] So I have a number of bills that would actually create protections for community members who need additional protections.

[2:56:21] Many of them, many of them, are contained in the People's Plan.

[2:56:29] That 310 page research backed document that was presented for hours to this legislative

[2:56:36] body.

[2:56:38] For example, if we want to talk about civil lawsuits, we can talk about the proposal for

[2:56:43] liability insurance for individual officers.

[2:56:46] So, taxpayers here in Nassau County no longer must foot the bill, when police officers commit crimes.

[2:56:54] As Shanikua mentioned, we've been paying $55 million what we know over the last five years.

[2:57:02] How about a bill to address hiring officers who have past records of misconduct?

[2:57:07] Because we learned yesterday in the Newstay article that 17 former NYPD officers with criminal

[2:57:16] conduct histories were hired by this and CPD, I'd like a bill about that.

[2:57:25] How about some transparency measures?

[2:57:28] Because what we know from and I encourage anyone who hasn't seen it to look up Newstay's

[2:57:33] watchdog article policing on Long Island cameras and consequences.

[2:57:37] We know that there are at least four on record individual, Nassau residents, who received

[2:57:45] unwarranted actions and unjustified force by Long Island police officers, as well as the

[2:57:51] money paid millions of dollars in compensation.

[2:57:54] this was discovered on video recordings in the public to disprove the lies

[2:58:03] levied against these four individuals. So we know that based on judgments

[2:58:10] of independent criminal justice experts including former chief prosecutor

[2:58:16] here in Nassau that it's almost unjustifiable. He says that there wasn't

[2:58:20] probable cause to bring charges here against the police.

[2:58:25] Now, could you sum up at your well-being on five minutes?

[2:58:28] I am.

[2:58:31] What we know is we've had to sue to get the records from the law that was passed on

[2:58:37] 58 because now so won't release them.

[2:58:39] We need transparency here in this county.

[2:58:42] We need a meaningful system of accountability.

[2:58:45] We need a CCRB. There is a ton of work to be done.

[2:58:50] and it is about time you start doing it.

[2:58:54] Thank you.

[2:59:10] Bader.

[2:59:11] Skyler Bader.

[2:59:23] Thank you and I would like to ask that everyone please hold any comments while I'm going

[2:59:28] because as you'll hear in my speech,

[2:59:32] noise really kind of knocks me off.

[2:59:35] So my name is Skyler Bader and I'm from West Tempestet

[2:59:38] and I'm a leader of Indivisible Nassau County.

[2:59:41] I was born and raised in the south, and I moved to New York, because I believed in the convenient lie that only white southern people are racist, and I didn't want to live in a racist society, out of the frying pan into the fire of Long Island.

[2:59:58] These bills are racist.

[3:00:00] Abelist and anti-democratic and based on misinformation and propaganda. These bills are clearly only designed to apply to police and are a direct reaction to the Black Lives Matter movement.

[3:00:13] Do any of you really think that if COVID deniers refuse to serve local yard doctors, or a visiting boogieman of Dr. Fauci, would serve with these legislators still stand behind these bills? Perhaps some would celebrate that behavior.

[3:00:30] as some of the pro-police people celebrate the beatings of police in D.C. on January 6th.

[3:00:38] We are against police brutality and discrimination, not police as people.

[3:00:43] The fact that you can't tell the difference, and or choose not to, because you assume

[3:00:50] it alienates some white voters, is the real problem.

[3:00:54] My two preschoolers and I have marched in dozens of BLM protests here on Long Island.

[3:01:02] There were multiple protests a day on Long Island for months, over a thousand at least.

[3:01:09] Why can't this bill name a single relevant local incident in the legislative history to justify the need for this bill?

[3:01:18] And why can't the legislature name any in his media coverage?

[3:01:22] I am just a regular community member in West Tempestet, yet I can name at least 10 anti-Semitic hate crimes against the Orthodox community there in the last year.

[3:01:34] But he can't name one provable actual threat to local police, and they should get stronger evidentiary laws and settlement amounts than real hate crime victims.

[3:01:46] This is a political re-election employee and another step away from democracy, a PR move by those legislators who fear the PBA's argument and millions of dollars in re-election ads that white voters will punish them for standing up for democracy justice and for people like me and all the people standing behind me.

[3:02:10] In Utah, a criminal law in Utah, a criminal law with very similar language is being used

[3:02:20] to prosecute a teenager with one year in jail for stomping on a black back-the-blue sign

[3:02:26] with a quote intimidating smirk.

[3:02:29] The foundation of hate crimes and discrimination is intent.

[3:02:33] It is by definition completely about intent.

[3:02:37] Did you act because of someone's protective class?

[3:02:41] Yet this law makes an irrobotable presumption that this discriminatory intent against police

[3:02:47] exists simply because of the presence of a uniform or any kind of knowledge that the person

[3:02:54] is a police officer.

[3:02:55] And that makes this bill completely self-fulfilling.

[3:02:59] Every time someone gets pulled over and the officer feels that the person disrespected

[3:03:04] them. The driver will be at risk of bankruptcy under this law. How often have police officers

[3:03:11] complained, rightfully, of disrespect during police stops. Rold eyes arguing the ticket.

[3:03:18] Because of the irrevitable presumption, these, quote-unquote, normal interactions will become

[3:03:23] hate crimes. Because they were one, seriously annoying, which is one definition of harassment

[3:03:29] under penal law section 240.26 to an officer in uniform, under this bill.

[3:03:39] As an autistic person, and especially as one who doesn't supposedly look autistic,

[3:03:44] people sometimes feel that I'm not respectful enough because I don't always display the

[3:03:48] social cues that they think I should or because I speak bluntly.

[3:03:53] For example, I have a hard time making quote-unquote appropriate eye contact.

[3:03:58] This makes autistic people look suspicious to police and leads to many unnecessary harmful and deadly interactions with police.

[3:04:09] I have no doubt that the NASA PD will use this new tactic to shut down free speech,

[3:04:14] and that there is no evidence to support the need for this law.

[3:04:17] Any person of conscience should be arranged against the use of such authoritarian

[3:04:23] scare tactics in our community and paid with our dollars.

[3:04:28] My last point would be that last April when we were considering the people's plan and

[3:04:34] other supposed police reform bills.

[3:04:38] I don't remember which legislator it was, but one of you asked him repeatedly why his own

[3:04:44] statistics asked commissioner writer why his own statistics, which they thought tooth and nail

[3:04:50] in court to avoid releasing. State that they pull over five black drivers for every one

[3:04:56] white driver. He could only say repeatedly that all stops are based on probable cause.

[3:05:02] As a lawyer, I know about probable cause. Does commissioner writer believe that white people

[3:05:08] are inherently less criminal and that black people are inherently more criminal? Or does

[3:05:13] NASA PD choose to pursue probable cause more often against black people.

[3:05:18] How else can we explain his answer?

[3:05:21] Or is his answer like his now deleted tweets about supporting BLM only when it is politically

[3:05:27] expedient?

[3:05:29] Free speech is by definition under our laws not violence.

[3:05:34] It may be uncomfortable, it may be unwelcome, it may be infuriating, you may disagree, but

[3:05:40] it is not violence as suggested by the spill.

[3:05:44] And it is horrifying to see a legislature effectively

[3:05:47] attempt to criminalize unpopular words and smirks.

[3:05:51] My face is not a crime.

[3:05:55] Thank you.

[3:06:12] Great crime, Berg.

[3:06:22] I don't have any written speeches,

[3:06:24] because that's not what I do.

[3:06:27] I'm an activist.

[3:06:28] I've been doing this for 31 years now.

[3:06:31] Half my life.

[3:06:34] I've witnessed many police brutality incidents, especially NASA, Suffolk, New York City.

[3:06:48] I was that occupied from weekends on weekends and seeing girls getting beat up by police.

[3:06:56] We

[3:07:01] have a right to protest.

[3:07:05] We have a right to our free speech.

[3:07:10] You want us to respect police officers.

[3:07:15] That's a earned disposition that they have to do.

[3:07:20] Isn't that right, Mr. Elrad?

[3:07:23] Sergeant Elrad, that rides around with his sound cannons.

[3:07:26] at our peaceful protests in Long Island.

[3:07:33] This is the first time I'm able to protest on Long Island

[3:07:38] over 150 myself in the last year and a half.

[3:07:46] I don't want to be criminalized for doing my duty as a citizen.

[3:07:54] I'm not a criminal, but me, I fear them and the ones over there because like they tell us

[3:08:09] you fit the description, you have a dad and you have a gun and I fear you, you have the right,

[3:08:23] you have the right to keep us safe, not beat us up.

[3:08:27] Sir, sir, comments onto the legislature.

[3:08:31] He knows he did not even listen to.

[3:08:35] Look at him.

[3:08:37] Are you listening to what?

[3:08:40] Sir, sir.

[3:08:41] Sir, sir.

[3:08:46] He's there with one looking nobody.

[3:08:49] He's a freaking joke.

[3:08:50] Why don't you tell him to look at all of you.

[3:08:52] As we're speaking.

[3:08:53] At the police.

[3:08:54] At the police.

[3:08:55] Stand to the police.

[3:08:57] Tell him that.

[3:09:00] Tell him that.

[3:09:01] Now one time, he's such a damn hypocrite.

[3:09:05] Now one time, look at him, put your phone down.

[3:09:09] Can you look at me?

[3:09:11] He can't.

[3:09:12] Sir.

[3:09:12] He can't.

[3:09:13] If you have something to say, let the bill say it.

[3:09:15] I, the bill is going to criminalize

[3:09:18] every person of color.

[3:09:21] That's all this is about.

[3:09:23] That's all this about.

[3:09:25] I'm glad to be part of the social justice movement

[3:09:28] that was all over the last year and a half.

[3:09:32] 97.6% of them were peaceful,

[3:09:36] but you only look at the little bits

[3:09:38] that were violent, that wasn't involved

[3:09:41] with Black Lives Matter.

[3:09:45] I'm activists, I'm always gonna be an activist.

[3:09:49] Leave us alone, let us do our job.

[3:10:00] Kathy Middleton.

[3:10:10] We're a Kathy Middleton.

[3:10:21] Judy Gardner.

[3:10:28] Is there a Judy Gardner here?

[3:10:30] And we've been here for a while, so many of these people left.

[3:10:40] Lim Kaufman.

[3:10:53] But it's way down.

[3:10:56] I had a whole nice thing right now, and everybody

[3:10:59] has said most of it.

[3:11:01] So I really want to stand here and talk to the white people

[3:11:05] who are sitting in front of me.

[3:11:09] I'm a white, oh, and I'd like you to look at me.

[3:11:13] I hear you're not looking at me.

[3:11:15] So Josh, Arnie.

[3:11:16] Really, Arnie.

[3:11:20] Okay, so I am a white, affluent woman,

[3:11:25] and I have a wonderful relationship with the police.

[3:11:29] Why?

[3:11:30] Because the police are never in my neighborhood.

[3:11:33] And I have never been pulled over by the police

[3:11:35] because driving while white apparently not a thing.

[3:11:42] So, how about if we white people,

[3:11:45] Listen to the Black and Brown people in our life who have a different experience than we do and are trying to make us understand that this bill would be really really horrible for many people in our communities.

[3:12:10] When we were going to pass police reform plans, I'm one of the people who helped write the People's Plan.

[3:12:16] The three black legislators sitting before me all said vote for the people's plan is the only one that is really going to have police

[3:12:27] accountability and all the white people said we don't really care what you think.

[3:12:33] Just because you're telling us that your experience is different and that the police are not always our friends, we don't really care what you think.

[3:12:42] So once again today, it appears that legislators, Abraham's, and binoculars are against this bill.

[3:12:52] Why don't we listen to what they have to say?

[3:13:01] Our experience, our experience as white people, is not their experience.

[3:13:07] We will never have a problem with the police.

[3:13:10] The police are our friend. They like us. They look like us.

[3:13:14] I sat through all of these things.

[3:13:15] There wasn't one black policeman that came up.

[3:13:21] That is really the challenge that you have in front of you

[3:13:24] is to make the police force look like the people who they police.

[3:13:29] So Josh, Arnie, Arnie, I met with you when we wrote the traffic bill.

[3:13:36] And I came away from our meeting and I said to my friends and your constituents,

[3:13:41] he's a good guy. And as I've told in that you're a co-sponsor of this bill,

[3:13:46] You know, firstly, they say, what the hell is happening to him?

[3:13:50] How can you be doing this?

[3:13:53] Now, Josh, I'm older than you, so you have to look at me when I talk.

[3:13:56] That's called respectful.

[3:13:59] So I need you to look at me.

[3:14:01] I was on the school board in my home school district for nine years.

[3:14:05] And sometimes we came up with something that we wanted to do,

[3:14:09] and it sounded great and executive session,

[3:14:11] and then we came out and there were a whole bunch of our constituents there.

[3:14:15] And every once in a while on a really good day, we listen to them.

[3:14:20] Listen to us.

[3:14:22] I know you all came into this room.

[3:14:25] Convince that you are going to pass this bill today, but you don't have to.

[3:14:30] You can change your mind.

[3:14:35] So it will be awful that on a Monday afternoon,

[3:14:38] a couple of hundred people dropped what they were doing came out.

[3:14:42] Your minds were already made up, and you didn't listen to anybody.

[3:14:45] Of course, we will vote you out.

[3:14:48] You know that's going to happen.

[3:14:52] But it shouldn't be threats of oh, we're going to vote you out.

[3:14:55] No, we're going to try to, it should just be that you want to do the right thing.

[3:15:00] Listen to these people and please listen to legislators' A-Brahams, buy-no, and eyelashes. They are trying to tell you something that you don't understand. We don't live their experience. Joshi, yet don't live their experience. Pull the damn bill.

[3:15:32] Louis Mendes.

[3:15:44] When I started this, everybody.

[3:15:49] This used to be Mikasa. I used to work in the county of Nassau.

[3:15:52] But I feel like Yucasa is not my Kasa anymore.

[3:16:00] Folks, my name is Luis Mendez, I'm the former assistant director and

[3:16:04] Project Director of the National County Office of Minority Affairs.

[3:16:09] I am the founder of an entity called Empowering Young Professionals.

[3:16:13] And I'm also Latino in case you guys haven't heard or seen.

[3:16:18] You know, I used to get coal to do ethnic sensitivity training at the Nasser County Police Academy.

[3:16:25] But ever since I've been speaking up about the rights of black and brown, I no longer get coal.

[3:16:33] There's some young men here that went through my class and I'm proud to see him here.

[3:16:38] He happens to be an American of Salvadorian background.

[3:16:40] And you could single him out because he's not white.

[3:16:44] I can't change the color of my skin.

[3:16:47] Neither can any of the black folks here.

[3:16:50] But yet, a cop, if he or she feels that this is dangerous for them, they could quit.

[3:17:01] I'm going to tell you, and I'm going to share my experience with all of you.

[3:17:05] I live in the county of Nassau, 1.3 million people.

[3:17:10] A county, where the Nassau County Police Department is under consent decree for not hiring people that look like me.

[3:17:17] Our county, where the police commissioner can openly say, as a matter of fact, black and latinos

[3:17:24] can't be hired, because they can't qualify to be police officers, because they come from

[3:17:30] broken homes.

[3:17:36] And I got three white legislators.

[3:17:39] Now, holding my future on the line, and by the way, I'm glad that my legislative area made

[3:17:44] it back.

[3:17:44] Thank you so much.

[3:17:45] Hopefully, I'm able to change your mind with my experience.

[3:17:48] A few years back, legislative office on came to empowering young professionals, which is directly right across the street at 220 old country road.

[3:17:56] He broke bread with the young members of empowering young professionals, just like he said, in that tape that was played, that he wanted to empower the youth.

[3:18:04] He lied to us.

[3:18:06] He won't even answer our phone calls right now.

[3:18:09] I've texted him seven times to pull the bill and he hasn't even said hello to me.

[3:18:14] So, I want to tell you this, which is very important.

[3:18:17] I got a white middle-aged man, legislator.

[3:18:21] I white added touch with minorities, woman, and a legislator.

[3:18:25] In October of his 27-year-old self-proclaimed living

[3:18:29] in the basement of his parents' house, legislator.

[3:18:33] Who now want to feel my experience.

[3:18:37] Who want to put me in a very difficult situation

[3:18:41] when it comes to policing.

[3:18:43] I have just handed over the National County Charter,

[3:18:47] Section 2112, to the legislators.

[3:18:50] Does everybody have them?

[3:18:53] They coming around, right?

[3:18:54] This is very important because I'm

[3:18:55] going to just forget about everything that has been said.

[3:18:58] And I'm going to talk to you about procedure,

[3:19:01] which is what supposedly supposed to govern all of you.

[3:19:06] So if you look at the National County Office of Minority

[3:19:08] FAS charter, which is the equivalent to what would you call it, the Constitution of the

[3:19:15] county.

[3:19:16] Thank you so much, Council.

[3:19:19] The Office of Minority Affairs should have the following powers and duties.

[3:19:24] Number A assists the various officers of the county government in improving the delivery

[3:19:29] of quality of life services.

[3:19:31] All of you are county government officers.

[3:19:35] In the following manners, social services, mental health, health services, public works, projects

[3:19:42] involving the minority community, and public safety.

[3:19:46] This is a public safety matter.

[3:19:49] So I have a question because there's a lot of blame to go around to get here.

[3:19:52] I apologize if I take a little bit longer.

[3:19:54] The administration has the Office of Minority Affairs Executive Director submitted at

[3:19:59] called by the charter to produce and publish a research paper or study issue affecting the minority

[3:20:05] communities. Has that been submitted for this legislation to be considered?

[3:20:10] The answer is no. There is a minority affairs standing committee and the legislative

[3:20:15] body. Any one of you could have called for a hearing. But yet, legislative roads, you know

[3:20:22] you have an open hearing. They didn't back to two years ago, where Reverend Watson is still waiting

[3:20:27] for you to call him.

[3:20:28] Unfortunately, Reverend Watson is dead.

[3:20:34] So I just want you to know this is your rules and you bypass them and the reason

[3:20:40] why you bypass them is because you don't care what we have to say.

[3:20:44] And I plead to you, I have kids that are growing up in the county.

[3:20:48] I have a grandson who's black and Latino.

[3:20:51] His last name is Floyd, by the way.

[3:20:54] I just want you to know something.

[3:20:56] You have a chance to make it right.

[3:20:57] You have a chance to send this low back to committee.

[3:21:00] You have a chance to have the office of my naughty face

[3:21:02] come back and give you an impact assessment.

[3:21:05] And then that impact assessment, you will assess

[3:21:07] that this low is not good for people that look like everybody behind me.

[3:21:12] So Josh,

[3:21:16] I'm behalf of everybody here for the two Democrats

[3:21:19] and you shame on you.

[3:21:22] Shame on you and shame on you.

[3:21:26] Thank you.

[3:21:36] Whoever has these sanitized, just leave it up there.

[3:21:39] I thought the podium, oh, there's okay, all right,

[3:21:43] because I don't have any other spray ones.

[3:21:46] I mean, people may want to spray it to me.

[3:21:49] Terrible dosia, dosia,

[3:22:07] it's just that you would have to come.

[3:22:12] So hello, my name is Terrell Dozier.

[3:22:14] I'm a member of L.I. United.

[3:22:17] And if you cannot see, I am a black man.

[3:22:23] So before I start with actually my written remarks,

[3:22:26] I would like to say that we heard it earlier, actually, when I believe it was a supervisor,

[3:22:35] one, the supervisor came up here and said that their officers might get yelled at.

[3:22:41] And I guess that's what we're talking about right now.

[3:22:45] During a protest and officer might get yelled at Joshua, got yelled at earlier today.

[3:22:51] And there was screaming, and he didn't look, or pay attention, and then, person walked off.

[3:22:59] Like, is that what we're coming down to really, right now?

[3:23:03] That we're legislating people, citizens, yelling at folks, folks yelling at legislator Lathazan

[3:23:10] because he represents a greater institution.

[3:23:13] Individual officers, I don't know any of these officers names, might get yell at that

[3:23:17] because they represent an institution that might be oppressing people and people are angry.

[3:23:25] It's clearly not a salt because code, New York State, Penal Code, 120, says a salt in

[3:23:31] an official, such as a piece officer in order to prevent that person from performing.

[3:23:36] His or her duties is a class of the felony, resulting in a minimum of two years and a maximum

[3:23:41] of seven years.

[3:23:43] So, I mean, this is what we're talking about now.

[3:23:46] You know, I explicitly mentioned my race earlier because as a black person, I am insulted by this bill.

[3:23:55] I was born into this skin.

[3:23:58] I was born with all of the hate placed upon me that accompanies this skin.

[3:24:04] I was a toddler playing in my front lawn the first time I was called the Nigger.

[3:24:09] In grade school, the first time a white school authority figure told my black mother that her black sons would never take a white girl to advance on his watch.

[3:24:20] A middle school or the first time I was followed in a store, a teenager, the first time I got pulled over to buy by the police while walking, because my quote-unquote tote hotels were too long, I was born into this skin.

[3:24:35] And when it comes to police harassment, I consider myself one of the lucky ones because I am still here.

[3:24:45] You have the audacity to make a mockery of people who have lived a lifetime of oppression

[3:24:51] because of their race, religion, disability, gender, sexual orientation by reinforcing and occupation.

[3:25:00] a career decision as a protected class.

[3:25:05] And my understanding, as many have mentioned,

[3:25:08] is that this bill gives even more rights to the police

[3:25:11] than those who belong to other protected classes.

[3:25:14] That if you intimidate a person due to their race,

[3:25:19] they must actually have to prove that

[3:25:21] waste race was part of your rationale.

[3:25:24] However, in this case, if you intimidate an officer,

[3:25:27] the assumption of a hate crime is given.

[3:25:32] Those four officers who lied on record and was exposed by News Day,

[3:25:37] at least two of the victims were black and Hispanic,

[3:25:40] so can we assume that they falsified records

[3:25:43] because the race of their victims?

[3:25:46] And if so, will a hate crime be filed against them?

[3:25:50] This is a disgrace.

[3:25:53] I would like one of you to please list me

[3:25:55] the policies etched in our history that has necessitated such protection for police when somehow

[3:26:02] segregation, redlining, biased, imminent domain, broken windows policies, and many other historical

[3:26:09] and current discriminatory policies do not rise to the level of giving the same as something

[3:26:15] right to other protective classes. And the cherry on top is that you are putting this bill through

[3:26:22] As a reaction to your constituents rising up,

[3:26:25] to simply say, racism doesn't belong in policing.

[3:26:28] Something which should be cheered, not punished.

[3:26:32] The fact of matter is, is that a black man had his life choked out of him by a law enforcement officer.

[3:26:39] And your community rose up to say, we too need protection,

[3:26:42] and there are needed changes in policing here in Nassau County.

[3:26:46] And instead of leading that change, you decide to pick this moment to hold your constituents

[3:26:51] accountable after passing a police reform plan that refused to hold your officers accountable.

[3:26:58] You say civilians can be sued while refusing to adopt the people's plan proposal for

[3:27:03] liability insurance so that individual officers can be responsible for misconduct and civil

[3:27:10] suits.

[3:27:12] And I wonder about this, and I know my time is almost up, but this is last time when you

[3:27:15] say I'm going to wonder about this.

[3:27:17] I wonder if anyone has ever paused to think.

[3:27:20] Executive Order 203 was issued as it means to address racism and racial disparities in policing.

[3:27:28] And you passed a plan that your three black colleagues over there disapproved of.

[3:27:34] The only people at this legislative table who have any lived experience with racism,

[3:27:43] and you denied their experience.

[3:27:48] And then a couple months, a couple months later you put forth a back-the-blue bill, a bill similar, a bill aimed at silencing protesters, a bill similar to that in Utah, which meant the arrest of a young woman because she stomped on a back-the-blue sign.

[3:28:11] Ask your colleagues, ask your black colleagues what they think about this bill.

[3:28:14] I bet many of you have already asked, I bet they have told you what they think about this bill.

[3:28:21] And so when you do end up passing this bill, you can stop pretending that you care about black lives,

[3:28:28] or listen to black voices, or even respect the experiences of your black colleagues.

[3:28:36] I believe we all want to see ourselves and I only have 30 more seconds.

[3:28:40] I believe we all want to see ourselves as heroes in life stories.

[3:28:44] Well, when I look at this legislature, I see the 39th Congress,

[3:28:49] the group of people who, as recompense for nearly 400 years of human ownership,

[3:28:55] gave land back to the slave owners.

[3:28:58] I see the all-white jury letting a guilty mob free after they lynched the man.

[3:29:04] I see the White Citizens Council doing the footwork to implement the policy of segregation.

[3:29:11] Each one of them in an institution to maintain the status quo to a presto-seeking

[3:29:16] equality and justice.

[3:29:19] You all are carrying a legacy, but it is not one of history's heroes.

[3:29:25] Thank you.

[3:29:37] And Scott Banks,

[3:29:49] we'd have to noon presiding off San Nicolello, an already leader, Abraham's, and kind of legislators.

[3:29:58] I stand here in solidarity.

[3:30:00] But the opponents of this ridiculously divisive legislation. This is a bad bill which each of you should vote no.

[3:30:14] And you know who else does not support this bill? The acting district attorney of National County.

[3:30:24] Joyce Smith.

[3:30:31] I reached out to the District Attorney when I first read this bill and I forwarded a copy of the bill.

[3:30:40] Miss Smith wrote an email to me today, which I will read for the record.

[3:30:46] Good morning Scott. I'm truly sorry for my delayed response.

[3:30:51] If, as by a reporter, I will give a statement opposing the bill.

[3:30:58] Although our legislators may have been well-intended, I have serious concerns about the

[3:31:05] Constitutionality and the practical implications of this bill.

[3:31:11] Thank you, Joyce.

[3:31:13] This is the Chief War Enforcement Officer of Our Accounting.

[3:31:19] This is an officer, a person who works with the police each and every day, and our office

[3:31:30] is taking a stand against this ill-conceived legislation.

[3:31:37] As the attorney and chief of the Legal Aid Society and chief public defender, I urge you

[3:31:45] to reject this legislation.

[3:31:48] This, as many of the speakers have stated, this bill seeks a remedy,

[3:31:57] conduct that doesn't

[3:31:59] exist in that so county.

[3:32:02] You know, I was fortunate to sit on the PAC committee.

[3:32:08] I attended over 15 meetings, attended by police commissioner writer, and then, frankly, in each

[3:32:17] the meetings, the commissioner stated that during the protest, this past summer, last summer,

[3:32:30] there was no damage to property. There was no violence, police were not unnecessarily

[3:32:41] harassed. The protest is did what they were, and constitutionally entitled to do. What we have

[3:32:52] done in this country to protest and express our views. Now, this once again, we can talk about

[3:33:06] as the bills talked about remaining around that doesn't even exist.

[3:33:11] But you know, the penal law of the state in New York,

[3:33:15] which our clients are prosecuted on just about every day,

[3:33:19] have those protections for police.

[3:33:22] There are enhanced protections for a police officer

[3:33:26] who is allegedly menaced by a person

[3:33:31] that, normally, that menacing charge is a misdemeanor

[3:33:35] for police officers, it's a defelony, a soul charge is the same way.

[3:33:41] So I urge that there's no need for this particular legislation.

[3:33:45] There are ample protections for the police.

[3:33:48] This law is unconstitutional.

[3:33:52] It is void for vagueness.

[3:33:54] On the vagueness doctrine of the Constitution, a statute is void

[3:34:00] If the legislative delegation of authority to judges or administrators is so extensive,

[3:34:08] that will lead to arbitrary prosecutions, what does this law do? First, there are no standards

[3:34:16] governing the exercise of discretion granted under the statute. The scheme that is outlined

[3:34:24] In this proposed law permits and actually encourages the arbitrary and discriminatory enforcement of law, and it provides no actual and fair notice to individuals as to what actually what actual conduct is subject to significant civil liability.

[3:34:47] You know, I'm thinking about this legislation, I wonder if the city of Minneapolis had this

[3:34:57] war on its books, did I have a few minutes, please?

[3:35:03] It is arguable that all of us a show van could have a few more minutes to come up with.

[3:35:09] That all of the show van could have a private cause of action against the shouting bystanders

[3:35:16] who cursed and screamed and told so that to get off his net.

[3:35:25] In minutes,

[3:35:28] outrageously, this law is asking our telling our county attorney,

[3:35:35] you have to use Nassau County tax dollars to go after those people

[3:35:44] who are trying to save the life of a human being. And you know what? Under this law,

[3:35:51] show that and his and his minions would had a civil lawsuit, a vague law impremissively delegates

[3:36:00] policy matters to police officers judges and juries for resolution on an ad hoc and subjective

[3:36:06] basis. And once again, subjects everyone to arbitrary discrimination. This law will have a

[3:36:13] chilling effect on first amendment rights. It is over broad. It doesn't define a lot of the elements

[3:36:20] that somebody has to know, whether or not they didn't violate it, the law.

[3:36:26] You refer to the panel law, yet there's no, it doesn't define what conduct would be subject

[3:36:33] to civil liability here.

[3:36:38] I would urge everybody here to, and one other thing, this irrebutable presumption.

[3:36:46] You know, the law, whoever drafted this legislation should look up constitutional law,

[3:36:55] okay?

[3:36:56] Permanent, irrebuttled presumptions on the Supreme Court law have been long-distorted under a due-process law.

[3:37:05] It's not on the due-process clause of the 50-40 amendments.

[3:37:10] So, you know, I would ask in closing that this legislature,

[3:37:16] Take a few moments. I understand the politics. You know, we all want to talk about supporting police.

[3:37:23] And I understand we support the police. There's not about supporting police.

[3:37:28] But it's supporting all of them. And they're rights.

[3:37:32] My clients, the clients that my office represents,

[3:37:38] cannot afford the troubled damages that are in this legislation.

[3:37:41] My clients are not going to be better for attorneys who are going to be able to challenge

[3:37:49] these complaints that are made before the human rights administration.

[3:37:57] They'll default.

[3:37:58] They'll be judgments.

[3:38:00] Please put politics aside here.

[3:38:03] This is not the right law.

[3:38:05] This is certainly not the right time for this legislative to act and pass this

[3:38:12] They'll conceive and a very bad piece of legislation.

[3:38:17] Thank you so much.

[3:38:27] Just a word.

[3:38:28] There's probably about 40 slips left.

[3:38:31] We're going to be here for the duration.

[3:38:33] The point of making to you is at least half the people who have worked here before have left.

[3:38:38] So there may be people in here who want to speak,

[3:38:42] but have to leave at a certain time.

[3:38:44] So please stay within the five minutes.

[3:38:46] I mean, you can make your points within the five minutes.

[3:38:48] So that everybody else has an opportunity to speak before the room empties out completely.

[3:38:55] Next speaker is Paolo Peroni.

[3:39:05] What's your name?

[3:39:07] Your next.

[3:39:10] Oh, Scott Banks?

[3:39:12] Oh, he's been here for...

[3:39:14] Actually, he's been here for...

[3:39:17] You know, he got first one.

[3:39:20] Yeah.

[3:39:20] Yeah, I know I am.

[3:39:22] The name is... the name is April Brown.

[3:39:24] It amazes me, it amazes me that I am standing here listening to this garbage all over again, because you people decided to come up with some legislation that makes absolutely no sense.

[3:39:39] People are standing before you begging, begging, please don't pass this law two day.

[3:39:47] I can see people here who told me that a $25 million building was garbage.

[3:39:55] But I listened to all of you. I have watched. I have watched Nassau County police cars on my street.

[3:40:05] Before mobile phones became an effect.

[3:40:08] And had to have a cell phone. God bless the soul. He's dead now.

[3:40:12] Called the third precinct because there were five cars on my street with a man with his head a black man

[3:40:21] This is long before all of these people came up and said I can't breathe

[3:40:26] I

[3:40:27] For you people and I say you people the stand here and you regard these people standing here. Oh, it was guns

[3:40:37] Oh, it's guns watch a British show now one of them have a gun on

[3:40:42] Not one of them. You won't want attention. You come up and pass a law that makes sense.

[3:40:50] Every black community is by a railroad. Every black community does not have police intervention properly.

[3:40:59] Every black community. I have watched my brother. My brother arrested because of police told him he had the wrong car.

[3:41:12] This is going way back in

[3:41:17] turn back to yo MTV rap

[3:41:22] so we're okay. There's something

[3:41:27] Understand it

[3:41:29] Hazel doses in the back

[3:41:31] Okay, Charlie Chisel. I

[3:41:36] was a little girl

[3:41:39] I'm up here

[3:41:40] protesting because all of the people who protested from Newcastle are now dead

[3:41:49] But you people, Mr. McKenvin, I watched you from over four hours, laughing and talking.

[3:41:58] Laughing and talking.

[3:42:01] I would have been thrown out of here.

[3:42:06] Okay, that's what would have happened.

[3:42:08] I'm here because I'm hearing people tell me,

[3:42:11] we have to do half the vote today.

[3:42:13] Why? Why do you have to vote today?

[3:42:18] And he here has come up to this microphone

[3:42:21] and said, this is not a good bill, not good at all, poor Josh's been beat up, turned

[3:42:28] ram, slapped up, every which way balloons, the Allen you don't get away with, you don't get

[3:42:34] away with it, you know I speak the truth,

[3:42:40] understand Josh when they tell you to look at him,

[3:42:43] look at him,

[3:42:48] eat what you, I mean you got to reap what you sow, that's like reality, Mr.

[3:42:54] I can't see that well anymore, but I make it very clear.

[3:42:59] You're in charge.

[3:43:02] Do you are in charge?

[3:43:04] Why did you put this bill before this entire committee?

[3:43:09] Would you know it's completely out of sorts?

[3:43:13] Beyond out of sorts, there are a whole lot more things that need to go on than this stupid bill.

[3:43:18] But more things,

[3:43:24] I should be able to call the third precinct and have something done when I call them.

[3:43:30] That doesn't happen.

[3:43:33] You all talked about redlining. My parents were just fine by redlining.

[3:43:39] Okay? My father was called a nigger.

[3:43:43] Okay, and he was like skin and had a pony tail.

[3:43:51] Get a job.

[3:43:54] Not a social service job.

[3:43:57] Not out here.

[3:43:59] Because this was the suburbs.

[3:44:03] Okay, everybody behind me.

[3:44:05] And I mean everybody.

[3:44:07] People say to me, oh my god, April, who are you?

[3:44:10] Why do you do that?

[3:44:11] Yes, I am a racist.

[3:44:15] How dare you?

[3:44:16] How dare you?

[3:44:18] How dare you sit here waste my time going over something that is not needed.

[3:44:26] Not necessary. These guys have a job to do.

[3:44:31] Not stand up here. I'm sorry I did see a woman over here.

[3:44:37] Okay. How dare you waste everybody's time.

[3:44:41] Look at that clock. I've been paying attention.

[3:44:45] We didn't start on time start on time that's a dog on Shane and you're gonna take a vote and tell me

[3:44:56] Oh, I have a whole stack of things here

[3:45:00] I didn't speak up. Miss Ronny would be speaking before me. I speak up. I speak up all the time. People say, oh, my God, April, don't do that. Oh, my God, be careful. You may get arrested today.

[3:45:18] Not going to be arrested. I will not be silenced.

[3:45:25] After vote for this bill, I don't have to stand here and beg you when I put you there.

[3:45:38] Quite for a very, very long time.

[3:45:42] I have been out there, and I have been fighting the fight with people.

[3:45:47] It was going to be quiet.

[3:45:49] People are like, you going to do this?

[3:45:50] Oh, Lord, it was going to say something.

[3:45:53] But April is sick and tired.

[3:45:56] Sick and tired of watching you make decisions for me.

[3:46:01] That are unnecessary.

[3:46:05] Complete and totally unnecessary.

[3:46:07] Mary. When I see five cop cars and they have a teenager, we just had in between the

[3:46:15] curbside. Oh, we have bells in block. That's very expensive.

[3:46:21] And the cops tell me, oh,

[3:46:23] you're in my space? Not a problem. I'm back and up. I'm back and up. And I'm calling

[3:46:30] a third precinct. Does take five cops to put down one teenager on a bicycle,

[3:46:38] on a bicycle.

[3:46:39] This happened over 20 years ago.

[3:46:43] It's still happening today.

[3:46:48] They don't circle.

[3:46:50] They being the helicopters don't circle your neighborhoods.

[3:46:55] Chuck Schumer came down to the town of North Hamstead.

[3:46:59] So that helicopters would no longer fly over Great Nick.

[3:47:04] But they fly over my neighborhood.

[3:47:07] The airplanes fly over my neighborhood now.

[3:47:13] After listening to this garbage from you,

[3:47:18] we have to protect our law enforcement.

[3:47:21] On the side of the cars, I have made sure two protect and serve.

[3:47:27] Period! Period! You were asked.

[3:47:31] Did you want to join or not? You had to take...

[3:47:41] You know what I mean?

[3:47:43] You're out of April.

[3:47:47] Got to sit here and beg you.

[3:47:50] Hope please don't do that.

[3:47:51] We don't want you to do that.

[3:47:54] That's garbage.

[3:47:55] I've listened to a lot of people come up to this podium.

[3:47:58] A lot of people I do know.

[3:48:03] One that doesn't have to be elected back in.

[3:48:13] Get it right.

[3:48:16] Always agree with what you have to say with anybody else to say.

[3:48:21] I got a lot of police officers in my family.

[3:48:25] and you can stare into space all you want there the hand comes to there they eat food just like I eat food

[3:48:39] but they don't want to hear me yell and scream and tell them this is not right and I will continue to yell and scream and tell you if it's not right

[3:48:50] we don't have to beg we have to get you the hell out of office that's how it works

[3:49:06] Hello, Peroni.

[3:49:11] Good afternoon.

[3:49:13] Plus button for full disclosure.

[3:49:17] I'm legislator.

[3:49:17] Lafazans opponent in the upcoming election

[3:49:21] just

[3:49:26] just a little over a year ago.

[3:49:28] Legislator.

[3:49:28] Lafazan was at a Black Lives Matter rally on Jericho term.

[3:49:31] I can.

[3:49:31] Is this political?

[3:49:32] I'm sorry.

[3:49:33] I've seen other in the past other political kind is coming here.

[3:49:36] And the presiding officer every time would say, hey,

[3:49:38] is this political?

[3:49:39] So please, let's be fair here, okay?

[3:49:41] That's all.

[3:49:42] Well, I can, I can, you call one time that I, you know, my political opponent.

[3:49:46] I'm not, it's not, everything is not about you copal, okay?

[3:49:49] All right, now please, where's the, where's the presiding officer?

[3:49:52] You, you, you need to calm down.

[3:49:54] You need to calm down.

[3:49:55] No sir, you need to calm down, okay?

[3:49:57] Please don't tell me I should be.

[3:50:03] I'm speaking on legislative laughs in his character.

[3:50:06] Yes, but it's not political.

[3:50:07] You know what, you know what?

[3:50:08] I think, I think that the point is correct.

[3:50:11] If you have something to say about the particular bill, please feel free to go ahead.

[3:50:17] If you want to make a political speech here, I think that's inappropriate.

[3:50:22] So you decide.

[3:50:23] You want to talk about the bill?

[3:50:24] Sure, you're welcome, too.

[3:50:26] I'm just speaking on Legislator-Lafzett.

[3:50:28] That's not appropriate.

[3:50:30] Sorry.

[3:50:30] Thank you.

[3:50:35] Thank you.

[3:50:39] The next would be Thomas Williams.

[3:50:45] This is William's go ahead, please.

[3:50:49] Good afternoon.

[3:50:51] Just for some background.

[3:50:54] I have been involved in government in Nassau County,

[3:51:00] either village or county level for 46 years.

[3:51:04] I've been an attorney for over 45 years.

[3:51:11] I only learned of this local law the other day when my

[3:51:15] son who's on the faculty of the University of Arkansas, called me and told me it's on the

[3:51:23] news down there. I've known Fred, burned in for over 30 years, and my son told me she

[3:51:31] Fred's involves, I call Fred, and fortunately, he was able to

[3:51:37] forward to me the proposed local law, et cetera.

[3:51:44] Now,

[3:51:46] I have been at various times periodically involved

[3:51:51] with this legislature since it was created in 1995.

[3:51:59] I'm fairly familiar with much of your legislation.

[3:52:02] I was ten years a commissioner of the National County Civil Service Commission.

[3:52:10] I've read this law and in my humble legal opinion, it is the most pernicious bill this body has ever proposed.

[3:52:27] I don't, I don't know, legislator, Lazaran, or Laphazan, I don't know you back, I don't know if you're at a attorney, are you?

[3:52:41] Okay, then somebody else wrote this bill.

[3:52:45] And I have two names for it. One is the police officer, financial aid bill of 2021,

[3:52:53] one,

[3:52:56] or the Frankenstein bill, because it takes a piece from here, a piece from there, and slaps

[3:53:01] it together in an incredibly undressment-like manner,

[3:53:09] I'm particularly bothered by the fact

[3:53:13] that it says, there shall be an irrebuttable presumption, the so-charisment, menacing,

[3:53:20] this fault, etc.

[3:53:23] Now, I don't know how many of you are lawyers. I know a few of you

[3:53:26] why. No carry is. I know riches or all of you is not here right now. Mr. Muscurrell

[3:53:32] or I think you are,

[3:53:38] any of you who are attorneys know there is no such irrefutable presumption

[3:53:45] except in housing discrimination. Otherwise there is none because what an irrefutable presumption

[3:53:53] does is negates the necessity to show men's rare, or as we commonly know it, intent.

[3:54:04] You just, it just puts on top of this statute for this local law that whoever curses

[3:54:12] at a cop is presumed guilty.

[3:54:17] Now, you, who are attorneys know that 50 years ago, the United States Supreme Court, said

[3:54:26] the use of profanity, even in calling police officers, file names, is a correct exercise

[3:54:37] of a first amendment freedom of speech, and that a police officer has to have a thicker

[3:54:45] skin than the average member of the general public.

[3:54:52] You folks know perfectly well if you have any legal training or have had any legal

[3:54:58] advice.

[3:54:59] This bill does not pass constitutional must.

[3:55:05] It will be if you pass it, it will be challenged and in the federal district court, in

[3:55:10] the East and District of New York, it will be thrown out as unconstitutional.

[3:55:15] The second circuit in Manhattan will uphold that, both as a three-band power, three-person

[3:55:23] panel, or on-bomk, and then the county might be as so ill-advised as to a petitioned

[3:55:30] the Supreme Court for a rid of tertiary, and I predict that the Supreme Court will

[3:55:37] merely dismiss the application for the rid. And you will have spent hundreds of thousands

[3:55:45] of dollars of taxpayer money to defend an unconstitutional law. Thank you.

[3:56:30] Because you probably don't understand the history of this institution.

[3:56:33] I've been a part of this institution for almost 20 years.

[3:56:35] I'm here to tell you on both sides.

[3:56:38] And I've defended it when democratic opponents have come

[3:56:42] to challenge my Republican colleagues.

[3:56:45] We have never, never allowed an opponent to come and speak

[3:56:49] while describing he's an opponent to one of our colleagues.

[3:56:53] Because it could be the perception could be that it is political and nature.

[3:56:59] I have not seen you here, and the last four years

[3:57:02] is Mr. Ladazvans had been here.

[3:57:04] So I'm to say that could be in turn

[3:57:06] interpreted as political in nature.

[3:57:09] We have not allowed it.

[3:57:10] We are not saying that you cannot speak.

[3:57:13] What we are saying is you cannot speak

[3:57:15] in the political nature, which you have come before us today.

[3:57:17] If you want to preside your statement to us,

[3:57:20] we'll be happy to take your statement

[3:57:21] and incorporate this part of the record.

[3:57:23] But I think that's been the standard.

[3:57:26] He said before he wanted to speak to Mr. Lafazan's character.

[3:57:37] Can I speak as a constituent of legislator Lafazan?

[3:57:42] If you want to speak about it, look.

[3:57:57] I

[3:58:00] mean look.

[3:58:02] I'm going to say about his character.

[3:58:03] No, that's not what we do, so if you want to speak about the bill, if you want to speak about something else, go ahead

[3:58:08] You know, at the time is love. All right. Thank you

[3:58:13] I'm speaking about the bill there. There is mention

[3:58:19] Okay, all right

[3:58:20] Thank you

[3:58:21] That guy's guys

[3:58:22] Okay, I can get tons of democratic count count get his down here to talk about you. So there you're like why will we want to do that?

[3:58:36] I got to pick up my kids come on come on all right

[3:58:52] Good afternoon everybody,

[3:59:06] could you hear me? I'm sorry. Thank you. In August of 2022, two months after the governor's executive order 203 was issued, which proclaimed the Black Lives Matter, and within three days of the executive order's guidance for the institution of police reform, this body saw fit to pass legislation to include first responders as a protected class.

[3:59:28] In direct disregard of the definitions of a protected class established by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 confirmed in the 1968 act and expanded by the federal hate crimes prevention act of 2009 in New York State Human Rights laws.

[3:59:44] Here's a copy of my statement as well.

[3:59:46] This body saw a fit to expand the definition of protected class contrary to federal and state statutes and jurisprudence.

[3:59:54] Now, this body seeks to double down on its impromiscible acts by encode-

[4:00:00] Opposing civil liability for those who are deemed to have harassed, managed, assaulted, or injured an individual

[4:00:06] due to such individuals protected class status as first responders. This body has not established

[4:00:12] a compelling interest exists in this county, and quite to the contrary, both the county executive

[4:00:18] herself and the police commissioner himself have stated that no such compelling interest exists.

[4:00:25] Well, this bill claims that it is, quote, the judgment of this legislature, that the recent

[4:00:31] widespread pattern of physical attacks and intimidation directed at the police has undermined

[4:00:37] the civil liberties of the community at large, and the bill states, quote, that this

[4:00:42] legislature notes with extreme concern that, in many jurisdictions, outbreaks of destructive

[4:00:47] looting and lawlessness have deliberately targeted and victimized law enforcement officers

[4:00:52] and other first responders, it ignores the statements of the county executive and police commissioner

[4:00:58] who both repeatedly stated that the demonstrations in this county have all been peaceful.

[4:01:06] This bill contains no clearly defined prohibitions. It imposes civil liability, regardless

[4:01:14] of a criminal prosecution being brought. And then at the same time, chooses to define harassment,

[4:01:20] menacing and assault, as those terms are defined in New York's penal law for criminal

[4:01:25] prosecution. It also borrows its definition of right from a federal criminal statute.

[4:01:33] This bill constitutes content discrimination and the official suppression of ideas. It makes

[4:01:39] it an irrebutable presumption that such harassment menacing assault or injury is motivated

[4:01:46] by such individual status as a first responder, if that individual is either in uniform or clearly

[4:01:53] identified as a first responder.

[4:01:56] This fills irrebutable presumption guarantees that a determination is automatic and not

[4:02:01] based upon actual, objective evidence.

[4:02:05] A valuation of axelage to have been harassing and menacing, however, require that determinations

[4:02:12] of based upon facts and evidence and an evaluation of reasonableness under the circumstances.

[4:02:20] That is what the law provides. Monetary damages are imposed no matter where, when or how

[4:02:28] these undefined acts are alleged to have taken place. Only circumscribing acts taken when

[4:02:35] Nigeria occurs in the course of a riot, as justification for imposing travel damages.

[4:02:42] But that is the only specificity within this amorphous film.

[4:02:46] According to this bill, if an individual is being beaten and assaulted by an officer,

[4:02:51] that individual is not permitted to protect him or herself, nor even speak out in protest,

[4:02:56] for that will subject the individual to civil sanctions, regardless if a state-county

[4:03:03] prosecutor deems the act to be justified in self-defense.

[4:03:09] The first amendment generally prevents government from prescribing speech or even expressive

[4:03:14] conduct, because of disapproval of the ideas expressed.

[4:03:18] This bill does not even address content.

[4:03:21] It makes it an irrobotable presumption that speech directed and an identifiable first responder

[4:03:27] is prescribed and subjected to punitive damages,

[4:03:31] a means to continue to silence and suppress future speech.

[4:03:37] This bill is precisely what the First Amendment forbids.

[4:03:43] As stated by Justices in this United States District,

[4:03:47] federal courts, individuals may commit heinous acts

[4:03:52] without warning and with little prompting.

[4:03:56] But under the First Amendment, the fear of such spontaneous attacks, without more, cannot override individual's rights to freedom of expression.

[4:04:10] Please do the right thing.

[4:04:22] Mary Beth Guntler.

[4:04:34] Good afternoon.

[4:04:35] I'm Mary Beth Guitler, and I'm the Social Justice Coordinator for the Long Island Area Council of Unitarian Universalist congregations.

[4:04:42] And I'm also a member of Long Island Advocates for Police Accountability.

[4:04:47] I'll be brief. Many folks have already made these points.

[4:04:50] But I think it's important to remember a few basic things.

[4:04:54] A protected class historically, the importance of it,

[4:04:58] can't be underestimated.

[4:05:00] It's based on immutable characteristics of race, ethnicity, disability, sexual orientation, gender identity.

[4:05:08] Not a profession, not a job you took, not based on a uniform you can choose to put on or take off.

[4:05:16] This legislation would open the door to dangerous suppression of free speech.

[4:05:21] It's up to the first responders to determine what is annoying, harassment, or menacing.

[4:05:27] This violates the spirit of due process, one of our foundational rights, is enshrined in the Constitution.

[4:05:33] The third point is, as many people have said, this legislation is not needed.

[4:05:40] Police are already protected in existing legislation, and county executive current and

[4:05:46] commissioner writer both went on the record in describing last summer's actions after

[4:05:51] the murder of George Floyd as peaceful.

[4:05:55] And finally, like Scott said, just an example of what might happen with such legislation.

[4:06:01] Think about those citizens trying to save the life of George Floyd, calling out to those officers to check his pulse, to get up off of his neck, trying to interrupt a murder.

[4:06:13] They could all be sued. Think about that. Is that what you want to do here today?

[4:06:19] Thank you.

[4:06:28] Victoria Hadbey.

[4:06:49] Thank you.

[4:07:00] I'm just basically a white middle class citizen of this country.

[4:07:05] I am here for a different type of bias, the political division of Democrats in their republicans.

[4:07:12] This amendment could suppress one political side views by the responders against, by the response against them.

[4:07:19] To think how I stand for Democrats who protest for their rights, many days, yet, here I have two Democratic legislation

[4:07:28] sitting before me, trying to pass in a moment that would allow for more suppression, and it feels like a slot in my face.

[4:07:39] Newsday wrote about this very article.

[4:07:44] Newsday reports the bill being considered by the National County Legislature could make police officers,

[4:07:50] and other first responders, a protected class under the Human Rights Law,

[4:07:54] which currently buys discrimination based on race, religion, gender, and orientation.

[4:08:01] No other professions are protected under the human rights law.

[4:08:05] This bill would allow a lawyer for the Long Island County

[4:08:09] to sue protestors on behalf of officers and call for fines of up to 25,000

[4:08:14] for anyone who arrests, menaces, or hinges in officer.

[4:08:19] The amount would be doubled if the defending behavior in the course of the

[4:08:24] in the course of participating in a riot, the bill says,

[4:08:29] while it sounds good, and we wish for no officers to be heard,

[4:08:34] this will grant broad authoritarian powers to first respond as an unintended consequence.

[4:08:42] While based on the belief that a first responder wouldn't lie,

[4:08:45] will show no bias in regards to how their injuries occurred.

[4:08:50] I

[4:08:54] mean, we could basically say, did they occur under a false arrest and the police

[4:09:00] officers say?

[4:09:02] The opposite.

[4:09:03] This recently actually happened when the police officer ran the car and used the said

[4:09:08] that the defendant ran into him.

[4:09:11] The officer wanted a hospital claiming neck injuries.

[4:09:14] Did the first responders use the aggressive cat this first?

[4:09:18] How this amendment would even be considered under the human rights law as a complete affront

[4:09:23] to all human rights activists in our first amendment.

[4:09:29] If we had data to back up how first respond to injuries fall under the Human Rights

[4:09:35] Law, we could all make informed decisions on how this amendment

[4:09:40] addendum applies to the existing law and to them.

[4:09:44] We just cannot add two laws that we deemed to use without any brief questions

[4:09:50] of how it applies to the existing law.

[4:09:53] Otherwise, all laws were they applied to, specific matter or not, could be then changed to suit the party bringing it forward.

[4:10:03] The first responders have laws on the boats to protect them, so why and more?

[4:10:08] Not based on anything for one side's definition of our employees.

[4:10:12] This proposal also assumes we don't have bias against anyone group.

[4:10:17] We also have no direction on who will decide if someone can get sued.

[4:10:23] In enacting this, it would open the doors for all states and counties.

[4:10:26] To use current laws and allow for the changing of our basic writers free speech for war.

[4:10:33] This is not for NASA legislation to decide but needs to be brought before our highest court to decide the Supreme Court

[4:10:43] to see if it leads on our first amendment rights.

[4:10:46] Laura Karen, I am pleading for you to veto this proposal.

[4:10:53] Karen's against the proposal biased against the group with all protests we have encountered

[4:10:59] on the other page here we need to ask was the response to one group equal to the response

[4:11:04] of another group.

[4:11:06] Did the first respondous actions effectively influence the response against themselves or would

[4:11:12] tax totally unprovoked, were stronger or less tactics used against one group?

[4:11:18] There are many videos in photo showing the different response against each group of protestors on the web.

[4:11:25] So now we have to ask if bias against some by the first responders warrant that they then get to receive compensation,

[4:11:33] based on their own responses to the protestors.

[4:11:36] I have tons of videos showing all that has gone on at the Belmont train station week after week after week that they've been there for almost a year now

[4:11:48] Okay, and the views I took

[4:11:52] From them, we're doing my rights as a Democrat

[4:11:57] Okay, meanwhile, I was always called the educator. I was the one to had to leave

[4:12:03] So, this is something we have to question, we can't just assume that everybody is fair

[4:12:09] and every first responder is fair, because it's not.

[4:12:13] I had an ambulance in front of a truck rally, okay, now it's a county with their lights

[4:12:19] on flashing this and that.

[4:12:21] You know how to granddle it, pass away from drowning and we couldn't get an ambulance to

[4:12:25] our house?

[4:12:27] How do you think this made me feel watching them sitting there in the middle of a bank?

[4:12:34] In conclusion, passing this will be setting a precedent, leading us on a very slippery, legal

[4:12:41] slope, which we may never recover from, a further push away from democracy.

[4:12:47] Nobody wishes for first respond to this, and I am not advocating for violence against

[4:12:53] first responders, but to this proposal.

[4:12:57] We need to allow for the people of this country to have recourse on this law.

[4:13:01] We need to know the force against protestors will be equal, and that the tactics used against one group is the same for all protestors as not to cause some protestors to get frustrated and attack the first responders.

[4:13:18] Before we can do anything, this must get answered as we do not give first amendment rights to one group without giving the same rights to another.

[4:13:28] Thank you very much.

[4:13:36] Susan Goderer.

[4:13:59] Thank you so much for giving all this time to this. My name is Susan

[4:14:05] Goderer. I'm the director of the NASA County New York Civil Liberties Union. The

[4:14:10] first start talking about the bill. I just want to address some of the abysmal level

[4:14:15] of dialogue that has gone on around all of this policing stuff. First of all, being pro police

[4:14:22] reform is not being anti-police, and I think that any bill or legislation, or anybody who

[4:14:31] has been elected to create policy that buys into the degradation of our discourse, assuming

[4:14:39] that all voters are stupid, and all policies should be based on public regulations and

[4:14:45] electioneering should not be sitting in those seats, and so let's just try to raise the

[4:14:51] a lot a little bit.

[4:14:52] Shall we?

[4:14:55] I've heard logic propose that if somebody proposes a piece of legislation.

[4:15:00] That is protection for police. It immediately means if you don't vote for it, you don't want to protect the police. Again, can we raise the dialogue please? And can we also please acknowledge the fact that a lot of this legislation that looks very similar around the country, I'd love to ask the unions who their public relations firm is on a national level. So let's keep that in mind, okay?

[4:15:27] while we're talking about this particular piece of legislation and who really wrote it and where did it come from.

[4:15:33] Okay. So to begin with, the preamble of this legislation is unbelievable. I don't know how many of you have read it.

[4:15:42] It sets up the rationale for this legislation using incendiary language making references to outbreaks of destructive rioting and lawlessness.

[4:15:52] And it's tax on police, asserting that these attacks are intended to hinder the police from

[4:15:59] safeguarding society, from chaos, and mass violent.

[4:16:06] Okay?

[4:16:06] I don't know where any of you are living, but I haven't seen it not to mention what other speakers

[4:16:13] have pointed out here that the county executive and the police commissioner and many of you

[4:16:17] have talked about the peaceful protests.

[4:16:20] So, hair on fire, Josh, I don't think so, okay?

[4:16:25] It's a deliberate hyperbolic attempt to set a dystopian landscape that's ridiculous.

[4:16:31] So we would ask legislator Loughes on another sponsors of this bill to present measurable

[4:16:36] data to justify the need for the bill, specifically in National County, not around the country,

[4:16:42] not in other cities, in National County.

[4:16:44] So we can be confident that the people governing the county and proposing public policy

[4:16:50] here are now wasting our time and are doing it in a mature, grown-up fashion.

[4:17:02] Secondly, this adds tools to the policing toolkit regarding consensual threat during

[4:17:10] interactions with the police.

[4:17:12] As if the existence of a batana gun in a taser were not enough, now there is the looming

[4:17:17] threat of a civil claim brought into the mix.

[4:17:20] This county is already made it abundantly clear.

[4:17:24] It is not interested in police accountability.

[4:17:26] And now to tip the scales of power even further, instead of using your time to legislate

[4:17:32] checks and balances and help people in the communities and create some equity in this

[4:17:38] county.

[4:17:39] You've decided to use your time in this way for legislation that will increase the power

[4:17:44] of the police and decrease their accountability.

[4:17:51] Thank you.

[4:17:53] We have real problems here in Nassau

[4:17:56] County.

[4:17:57] This is a complete waste of everyone's time,

[4:17:59] seriously.

[4:18:01] And it's quite embarrassing actually.

[4:18:02] You're making spectacles of yourself.

[4:18:05] I've been getting calls from around the county.

[4:18:07] What does this mean?

[4:18:09] Does it mean if I put my finger at a police officer during the

[4:18:11] speech and call out a specific behavior by a police officer?

[4:18:15] my harassing him. Does that fall under one of these codes? If the public doesn't understand

[4:18:21] what the legislation means, then the only effect the legislation has is to create a permanent

[4:18:27] veil of threat over every interaction, whether or not it's ever enforced. As soon as you pass

[4:18:34] this bill, that threat now exists over every interaction. It's a permanent veil of threat

[4:18:40] along with all the other threats that come with a police interaction.

[4:18:45] So regarding the financial damages, some say that damages will fit the offense and will not

[4:18:50] always be in the state of range of 25,000 to 50,000.

[4:18:54] That is not comforting to people who get a civil suit thrown at them and have to hire attorneys

[4:18:59] for months and months and months, and that will be financially catastrophic for them.

[4:19:05] So again, I would like to ask, or I would hope during the debate, I would actually like

[4:19:09] ask now if any of the sponsors of the bill or Josh could give us an example of behavior

[4:19:16] that would result in a suit.

[4:19:20] Because if you can't, then you shouldn't be voting for the legislation.

[4:19:30] If the public doesn't know the parameters, it's not an okay law.

[4:19:35] Can any of you give me an example of what might get them into trouble?

[4:19:39] Can you give them an example of what might get them into trouble?

[4:19:44] Anybody?

[4:19:47] No?

[4:19:48] Okay.

[4:19:50] Okay.

[4:19:52] So on that note, the other thing is, I'm not sure exactly how we're supposed to find out

[4:19:57] how many civil suits have been thrown at people.

[4:19:59] Again, transparency issues.

[4:20:01] I'm sure the answer is we have to go digging in the courts to find out.

[4:20:05] So much for accountability and transparency, again,

[4:20:08] Nassau County.

[4:20:09] So I ask one more time for measurable data to be presented on the mass violence

[4:20:14] and chaos that is being perpetrated all over the county.

[4:20:17] The police are currently being prevented from putting down.

[4:20:20] If you can't provide that, then please stop wasting everybody's time.

[4:20:33] Can I pass it to Fred Brewington or...

[4:20:37] I thought I thought Mr. Brewington wanted to wait until the end, but he can go now if you want to.

[4:20:43] Whatever you want.

[4:20:53] It's a shake first,

[4:21:13] you abuse us, and then you complain about the way we fight back.

[4:21:23] You claim that we are anti-police, and we are not,

[4:21:31] I sure wish all the seats up there

[4:21:33] were filled, but I don't have control over that, you have control.

[4:21:40] My fellow lawyers up there, I'm going to take you back to constitutional law 101, just for a

[4:21:46] little bit in a couple seconds.

[4:21:48] But I want to stand here as a life member of the NAACP.

[4:21:54] The most feared and most revered civil rights organization in the world.

[4:22:02] And Mr. Lafazane, I don't think you and I have really had a good conversation.

[4:22:07] I would cherish that because I'll try to help school you a little bit and help you clean

[4:22:12] the stuff that's on your shoes that you stepped in, clean that off.

[4:22:17] Because what you've created for everybody here in Nassau County is a step back in time.

[4:22:28] A step back in history. And we heard Reverend Easley talk about Bull Connor.

[4:22:36] Let me tell you a little bit about Bull Connor. One of the things that they did was they made it unlawful

[4:22:42] to parade in the streets,

[4:22:48] raise issues about the concern

[4:22:51] where people were getting, look at me this time, young man,

[4:22:55] people were getting tard and fathom.

[4:23:04] The report is not going to be on the take down on you.

[4:23:06] I'll be

[4:23:09] following you again.

[4:23:12] Mr. Brad, please go beyond the party.

[4:23:14] Everyone else does.

[4:23:15] I'll do that.

[4:23:16] Look, thank you.

[4:23:19] because I will be obedient to a point.

[4:23:28] I'll do it for him now for you.

[4:23:32] I start by good afternoon.

[4:23:34] There are several ways to address this law,

[4:23:38] and one of them was to discuss directly about

[4:23:41] tar and feathering and lynchings.

[4:23:46] Went on and still go on.

[4:23:48] You can just look at the bird,

[4:23:49] Bill, and Congress, and they'll tell you about a man

[4:23:52] that got dragged behind a pickup truck in Texas

[4:23:55] in your lifetime, young man,

[4:24:00] and yet you stood with, I'm not even on my prepared

[4:24:04] marks yet, you stood and kneeled, just like this Ford did, and other people did, with

[4:24:13] black lives matter, protestors and said, I hear you, you didn't hear damn thing,

[4:24:21] because

[4:24:21] So if you did, you wouldn't pontificate and quit this up as a bill and denigrate the lives

[4:24:30] of those individuals that dared to set their bodies in front of firing squads to stop

[4:24:38] abuse.

[4:24:40] So you should be ashamed of yourself.

[4:24:44] I don't care what your political attempts order, climb up the ladder, don't climb on

[4:24:59] What approach I take, there is no way to find the passage of the suggested law being acceptable.

[4:25:08] The rest of the time there's going to be a lot of to me and I'm going to pray that somebody's going to heal some time to me.

[4:25:14] Anybody out there that plans to speak, run a heal some time to me?

[4:25:18] Okay, so I got 15, 20 minutes, I'm good.

[4:25:24] That's fine, that's fine, but if those folks would be right there, names to me.

[4:25:27] Anybody put in, anybody put in, say your name out loud, Dars?

[4:25:34] Readjust Thomas, Thompson, Dars, Charles.

[4:25:39] Nacens, is that enough? That's good. Thank you.

[4:25:45] First, the bill is unconstitutional without any Ruth to being salvaged. And if you want to fight,

[4:25:53] I'm built for it.

[4:25:55] Be prepared. We are built for it.

[4:25:57] any things with me. She's built for it. We'll bring the Constitutional lawyers because I've already spoken to them across the country

[4:26:05] Mr. Shafar, I watched your pop your gum all afternoon

[4:26:10] and I'm gonna say this because someone taught me

[4:26:15] that it's really not good to do that when you want to people to respect you.

[4:26:23] I mean, I'm looking for people because people, there's no call for that.

[4:26:27] There is.

[4:26:29] There is.

[4:26:30] Because you're not sitting there.

[4:26:31] And there's a matter of fact.

[4:26:32] There's a matter of fact.

[4:26:33] There's a chance.

[4:26:34] Let me tell you something.

[4:26:35] There you go.

[4:26:36] See there you go.

[4:26:37] I mean, why can't you go?

[4:26:39] You can't.

[4:26:39] I should have.

[4:26:40] And respect it and clapped for a long time.

[4:26:43] And I'm going to just tell you that.

[4:26:44] There is.

[4:26:46] Because when you saw the faces that we saw, the grimaces on the face when people talked about Black Lives Matter.

[4:26:52] And we watch people on this side.

[4:26:54] And at least one person on this side.

[4:26:56] make faces, it's okay for me to comment.

[4:27:00] Well, you're not coming to the match.

[4:27:01] If you come out here, it's always true and gone.

[4:27:03] No, I don't think so.

[4:27:04] You don't need them. I mean, you don't need to do that.

[4:27:08] He does have a first amendment.

[4:27:12] If you want to tell me, if you want to tell me,

[4:27:16] if you want to tell me that I can't say when I'm disrespected,

[4:27:20] that means that the police that you want

[4:27:23] to legislate to give the right to sue,

[4:27:25] can't say that they are disrespected.

[4:27:32] The

[4:27:38] violation of the First Amendment rights is clearly identified in the vague and undefined terms, like injure.

[4:27:46] That's not defined, but yet it's tail-in, Mr. Kennedy. It's on the tail-in, like a tail-wagging ador.

[4:27:55] So that it's wide open, you may try and steal the definition whoever wrote this law, from the penal law, or from the federal statute, but you're left some things out, one of them is injure, because if indeed one of my brothers over here, who do serve us well, say, oh, I'm injured, my heart hurts, that's not defined, and they could sue, Mr. Cuffle, they could sue.

[4:28:26] Ms. Bino, they could sue, and it's not even defined, but I'm not even getting there yet because the fact that while loosely referencing the New York penal law sections

[4:28:37] 120, 0, 0, 3, 0, 4, 0, 4, A, 0, 5, 0, 6, 0, 7, 0, 8, 10, 13 and 15 dealing with assault and menacing as well as 2, 40, 25,

[4:28:56] 26, 30, 31, and 32 dealing with harassment, all of which require some proof of intent.

[4:29:05] It then wipes clean the need to prove any of those crimes, including the men's

[4:29:13] raya of criminal intent, as set forth in those statutes.

[4:29:20] How can that be?

[4:29:23] This is the ability you put up.

[4:29:28] The creation of a private right-of-action, which not only has an ill-defined term, and terms, but seeks to chill and limit the speech of persons who would seek to express themselves, make statements which are unpopular too when about police, and or engage in forms of protected speech that are otherwise lawful and properly protected by a hundred years of American jurisprudence is absurd.

[4:29:57] You've got to find yourselves on the cuff.

[4:30:00] For the Washington Post, the New York Times, time magazine, and any other document that you can

[4:30:09] think of as a being national county, the police state.

[4:30:18] The time and reasoning of this proposed statute

[4:30:21] makes one point crystal clear. Fist law is intended to punish those voices and intimidate

[4:30:30] those people who would put their bodies on the line for a moral imperative that cannot be denied.

[4:30:38] The intent to chill and dampen protected speech and what protesters could not be more obvious.

[4:30:46] Second, the placement of the status of being a protected class on first responders, including

[4:30:52] police, is contrary to law and all designations of historical categories of real victims

[4:30:59] of hate, real victims of discrimination, and real victims of defined categories under federal

[4:31:08] and state law.

[4:31:12] Why do you have what you've done, and what you're doing right now, is a slap in the

[4:31:17] face to those who cross the Edmund Pettis Bridge, raised their voices for women's rights

[4:31:25] in Seneca Falls and dared to speak out and that were victimized at Stonewall.

[4:31:34] And if any of you want to know what those references are, give me your call.

[4:31:41] Any argument, which suggests that first responders are already defined in the National County

[4:31:46] Human Rights Law as a protected category, as amended, and believe it, it was an August

[4:31:51] of 2020 or perhaps 19 does not make it valid. Repeating an unconstitutional mistake does not

[4:32:00] make the first mistake go away. In fact, it makes it worse. The classes of race, color, religion,

[4:32:09] national origin, disability, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, are all characteristics

[4:32:24] recognized under federal law.

[4:32:30] Systemic violence, lynchings, are and featherings, abuses,

[4:32:42] taisings, beating with ass and batons, threats to life, lamb and security

[4:32:51] are not being solved by this law.

[4:32:57] In fact, they illustrate the real problems that exist by trying to cover it up.

[4:33:02] by giving police yet another security blanket that they don't need.

[4:33:09] The bill is dangerous, and as yet another hidden double whammy here it is.

[4:33:13] Not only does it allow police to sue the civilians that paid their salaries,

[4:33:18] it does provide for civil penalties under paragraph five,

[4:33:23] where it says very important, in addition, legislator Walker,

[4:33:29] in addition to civil liability.

[4:33:33] Any person found to have violated the provisions of this section shall be subject to a civil penalty,

[4:33:40] no more than $25,000 per violation.

[4:33:44] Her violation.

[4:33:46] You want to bankrupt somebody and shut them down?

[4:33:49] That's one way you're doing it.

[4:33:51] People are going to be afraid to speak their mind.

[4:33:54] As a matter of fact, they still don't know.

[4:33:56] So box and said what I'm saying right now, one of these young people in uniform over there could say I was insulted. I felt harassed and I'm suing brewing him

[4:34:11] in addition to this

[4:34:14] The legislature

[4:34:16] Another double whammy, and I'm sure you read it. Mr. Lafazane

[4:34:21] gives up its power to the police commissioner to have the county attorney

[4:34:27] to sue the civilian for these damages and penalties.

[4:34:32] So what you are doing is what occurred just prior historians,

[4:34:41] just prior to us entering World War II.

[4:34:46] Is that the elected officials in countries we call totalitarian gave absolute authority to non-elected persons

[4:34:57] to use the power of government to handle those who they wanted to silence and economically ruin.

[4:35:07] I don't need to teach some people on the days of their own history.

[4:35:14] You then, in paragraph 4, completely cut out the Human Rights Commission.

[4:35:18] Did you know that?

[4:35:20] The statute in paragraph four says, and cuts out the Human Rights Commission of National

[4:35:27] County, and states that they are not to be involved in providing any investigation, any

[4:35:34] hearing, fact-finding, or other form of due process, so that you are rigging the process

[4:35:41] to deny constitutional rights and skipping any opportunity for the agencies whose law

[4:35:49] you are amending to be involved at all.

[4:35:55] This is more than cheating.

[4:35:59] It's abusive.

[4:36:02] And let me just ask, and you probably won't answer me,

[4:36:06] did you get counsel from the Human Rights Commission on this bill?

[4:36:12] If you did, tell me who you spoke to because I spoke to him.

[4:36:17] The county's own numbers reported to New York State demonstrate that the impacting of police

[4:36:24] on communities of color shows disproportionate and disparate numbers based on race.

[4:36:30] You all have refused to discuss race.

[4:36:34] You refuse to have that conversation.

[4:36:37] That's what makes this even more dangerous.

[4:36:41] from car stops to arrest, and from use of force and race based on differential in charges,

[4:36:48] those communities that suffered over policing the numbers in Nassau do not lie. It is

[4:36:57] these facts, which confirms what has been occurring in our country, all of which justified

[4:37:03] public outcry by people from all races, all religions, all gender identities, those with disabilities,

[4:37:16] and those who are born in different lands, and from other communities who call themselves allies

[4:37:21] who understood that when they said, Mr. Lafazan, Black Lives Matter this past year and a half,

[4:37:29] They understood that it was not the police who had been victimized.

[4:37:36] Police are not discriminated against.

[4:37:39] Black people are.

[4:37:41] Brown people are.

[4:37:45] Gay people are.

[4:37:47] Disabled people are.

[4:37:50] Women are.

[4:37:51] Jews are.

[4:37:53] Muslims are.

[4:37:54] Christians are.

[4:37:55] All the people are.

[4:37:57] Police are not.

[4:38:00] How dare you.

[4:38:02] A appropriate centuries of struggle by oppressed peoples and abuse your authority to cheapen

[4:38:11] those struggles by offering no less passing this bill.

[4:38:17] Then you make it so that nothing has to be proven by gathering and granting an irrebutable

[4:38:24] presumption.

[4:38:26] We want to say that term because for all lawyers we should all cringe.

[4:38:30] Mr. Nikolay, I'll allow you, do you remember that term?

[4:38:33] Era-buttable presumption

[4:38:37] that whatever is alleged,

[4:38:41] as vague as it made thee,

[4:38:44] that it was done solely as a hate crime against police

[4:38:48] and that the statements actions protest

[4:38:50] were for no other reason,

[4:38:57] not like vindicating civil rights.

[4:39:02] I'm almost done.

[4:39:03] But let me take you through a very simple

[4:39:06] And very brief exercise.

[4:39:10] Listen to these words.

[4:39:13] That's wrong right there.

[4:39:15] You a tough guy, huh?

[4:39:18] You don't think anybody understands that S-Bro?

[4:39:21] S standing for another word.

[4:39:23] Legislative Ford, I'm going to try and be Gentile.

[4:39:29] You're being a bum right now.

[4:39:32] He's enjoying that S.

[4:39:35] You're enjoying that.

[4:39:36] Look at you.

[4:39:37] Your body explains your effing, your effing bum.

[4:39:43] You know, that's bogus right there, bro.

[4:39:47] You can't even look at me like a man because you're a bum, bro.

[4:39:52] You think that's cool?

[4:39:54] What's your badge, number? Bro.

[4:39:57] I know that's what you want to do, but I'm not scared of you.

[4:40:03] Check him for an effing pulse.

[4:40:06] You're a bumbro, you're a bumbro, you're definitely a bum.

[4:40:13] The first thing you want to do is grab your mace because you're scared.

[4:40:19] Scared of effin' minorities.

[4:40:23] Let me just say,

[4:40:26] those are comments.

[4:40:29] If we go to be,

[4:40:32] those comments came from these people.

[4:40:40] And some of you may have the picture, these are some of the people that stood as George Floyd

[4:40:50] got murdered.

[4:40:53] And those individuals we need to say, we said George Floyd's name, but we need to

[4:40:58] say them there, Alyssa Finari and Charles McMillan and Christopher Martin and Donald

[4:41:03] Williams and Geneva Hanson and Darnella Fraser, a firefighter, a mixed martial arts fighter,

[4:41:09] a high school student and our nine-year-old cousin, and you remember the t-shirt, it said love.

[4:41:17] Those individuals that are in this picture, the one that you would have a picture of right, you got this.

[4:41:26] Those people could be sued based on your law, based on your state cell.

[4:41:32] Based on what Mr. Lafazan has placed up as political father.

[4:41:39] But let me tell you another thing,

[4:41:44] but each of you need to look,

[4:41:50] look at these.

[4:41:52] You see these four?

[4:41:56] Everybody got a copy of this up there?

[4:42:00] Because these are the faces of those who stood to silence, ignore, discount and abuse the voices of regular people who protested as they witnessed on May 25th

[4:42:17] and you would pass a law to allow these four people or any of our own,

[4:42:26] to sue them and never have to prove intent.

[4:42:31] Was there intent in saying that?

[4:42:35] Because they hated police?

[4:42:38] Or was it because they would try to save a man's life?

[4:42:43] I pray,

[4:42:49] I pray, Brother Rhodes, that you say, hard on this bill.

[4:42:57] Mr. McEve, I pray your heart is not hard and like Pharaoh.

[4:43:05] I pray that you each think of it, even the ones that put their name on this bill

[4:43:10] and thought they were doing something smart.

[4:43:16] I pray that each of you understands that on May 25th,

[4:43:21] You would have condemned those four people, those eight people that gave these words that have all the curse words in them that I gave you, to being sued and financially ruined so that they would be

[4:43:36] learn a hard lesson and never do it again. If you want to bring our society to its knees, give that power to the police so they can shut us down.

[4:43:46] Because we've only asked for justice.

[4:43:50] We've never asked for vengeance.

[4:44:04] I'm going to sit down now, but before I do.

[4:44:08] Let me just say this.

[4:44:13] Don't fuel hatred, don't fuel discrimination.

[4:44:19] Don't give discriminators yet another tool to put a neck on my knee.

[4:44:25] Because when you do, you force people to push back.

[4:44:32] You force people to be in a corner that they don't want to be in.

[4:44:40] Don't kneel with us.

[4:44:43] And at the same time, nail us to the damn cross.

[4:44:49] Thank you for your time.

[4:45:42] I have a question at point of clarification.

[4:46:22] I have a question at point of clarification after the rules and bylaws of this body, at this point legally, to my understanding, please correct me from wrong. But at this point legally, only the presiding officer can pull the bill. Is that correct?

[4:46:38] question.

[4:46:41] It's irrelevant.

[4:46:42] It's irrelevant.

[4:46:43] But here is the thing.

[4:46:44] We're in the middle of it.

[4:46:45] I'm sorry.

[4:46:46] We're sorry.

[4:46:46] We're all the respect.

[4:46:47] We're in the middle of it.

[4:46:48] My question as you are.

[4:46:50] We're in the middle of it.

[4:46:51] We are in the middle of it.

[4:46:53] So I have a number of other slips.

[4:46:55] Two people once.

[4:46:56] Is anyone here want to speak?

[4:46:58] Well, no, no, no, no.

[4:47:00] That's not how it works.

[4:47:03] If you want to come and speak,

[4:47:05] I'm sorry sir.

[4:47:09] There's a whole stack of people who want to speak.

[4:47:12] Who said we're the slips?

[4:47:13] I'm going to call those names in order.

[4:47:15] Have them come up.

[4:47:17] If people don't want to speak at this point,

[4:47:18] want us to move on to the next thing, then we will.

[4:47:23] Bremen, Mackie, before you speak,

[4:47:25] I just want to make sure that the public is clear on how the procedures

[4:47:28] of the legislature works.

[4:47:30] The presided officer has the authority to not call the bill.

[4:47:35] Pull the bill cannot happen.

[4:47:37] It's already been part of the bill.

[4:47:37] the legislative calendar, what will then proceed if the bill is called. We can call someone

[4:47:44] can call for a motion to table the item. From that standpoint, a table needs a second, and

[4:47:52] then from there, the legislature votes on it. Those are the only two processes. I know everyone

[4:47:59] is saying pull the bill because they do not want to see the bill go forward, but there is no

[4:48:03] process to pull the bill off the legislative calendar.

[4:48:06] The legislative calendar is part of a public notice.

[4:48:09] The public has been notified.

[4:48:11] It would be reckless and irresponsible to pull an item

[4:48:13] that the public has been notified,

[4:48:15] because you would not be here today

[4:48:16] if you were not notified based on that item.

[4:48:18] But I think the language we mean to say is not pull the bill.

[4:48:22] It's not called the bill or we mean to table the bill.

[4:48:26] So I want to make sure we clear on the language.

[4:48:29] Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold

[4:48:33] on, hold on, hold on.

[4:48:36] There's the hearing, the hearing isn't still open, whoever wants to speak, I'm going to call the names of Reverend Mackie, you go ahead.

[4:48:46] Thank you very much. My name is Pastor Arthur Mackie, Jr. Pastor of Mount Sonia Baptist Church in Roosevelt, New York.

[4:48:54] And I'm here to call on the NASA County legislator to vote against this racist classes and sexist bill to make NASA County police a police protected class.

[4:49:09] They don't deserve to be a protected class.

[4:49:12] I was born black, and so was Akbar Rogers, who was brutally beat by the freeport village

[4:49:18] police, including the mayor's son, and nothing has been done about that.

[4:49:24] Justice needs to be done, and now, so county police certainly don't need to be a protected

[4:49:30] class.

[4:49:33] Also, a matulari of Roosevelt, New York, was born black.

[4:49:38] Brutely beat the black boy scout by the NASA county police from the first precinct.

[4:49:46] We marched there with a attorney brewantin to the first precinct.

[4:49:51] They had guns pointed at us snipers as we marched there, but we marched on anyhow.

[4:49:59] And then in Queens illegally over the borderline, Matthew Felix was assassinated by Nassau

[4:50:09] County Police.

[4:50:11] Now we have no problem on our top cops.

[4:50:14] I work in government for 30 years, three decades.

[4:50:18] I put together a lot of good programs on our top cops, but we do have a problem with corrupt

[4:50:24] cops killing our people.

[4:50:28] And we've stood with Matthew Felix family, and they killed him at 19 years old, I was there with him or the family for their 20th birthday that is going to be a march on the 29th regarding his assassinated nation by Nassau County cops and we call on you to vote against this bill.

[4:50:53] And anybody who votes, yes, we call on the good people,

[4:50:56] and that's our county, the vote against them.

[4:51:02] Ow, Ralph Keso, never born a bill like this.

[4:51:08] He would meet with the black leaders, huh?

[4:51:11] Fran Chi, for self, never would bring a bill like this.

[4:51:16] He would meet with leaders in the community,

[4:51:19] Thomas Escalada, whenever,

[4:51:23] Bring a bill like this, he would meet with the leaders of the community, and say we've got to talk to Jim Rice from the Commission on Human Rights.

[4:51:33] Huh?

[4:51:34] Oh, rep my father to leave Reven Arthur, Mackie Senior.

[4:51:37] Thomas, that's a lot of would never allow a bill like this to come.

[4:51:40] And Thomas, why is he?

[4:51:42] Would never allow a bill like this to come.

[4:51:44] Shame on you!

[4:51:47] For bringing this racist, crisis, and sexist bill,

[4:51:52] that discriminates against the people.

[4:51:57] We have gone through too much.

[4:51:59] There are too many black men who've been found hanging

[4:52:02] in the Nassau County jail.

[4:52:06] There are too many cases of cover-up.

[4:52:09] In Nassau County, Nassau County has become the new South

[4:52:13] and it's nothing to be proud of.

[4:52:16] It's something to be ashamed of.

[4:52:19] out, no, on this bill,

[4:52:36] Patricia Pastor.

[4:52:48] Good evening.

[4:52:49] I'm quite, that's where we're at.

[4:52:54] And I was glad you let a couple people in

[4:52:57] after Fred, because I really didn't want to follow Fred.

[4:53:01] Fred's a tough act of Fala.

[4:53:04] My name is Patricia Pastor,

[4:53:07] and I am a civil rights attorney,

[4:53:12] constituent of legislative burn-down, I live in, in, in, and has it. And I am also the president

[4:53:21] of the National Organization for Women in Nassau County and the legislative lead for

[4:53:26] now New York State. And I'm here today to talk about this bill and so many people have

[4:53:37] already said what I wanted to say, so most of my prepared notes, I'm sure you'll be grateful,

[4:53:45] I'm not going to cover, so I should be fairly brief.

[4:53:51] What I want to say is that my presence here is not about anti-police.

[4:53:58] I spent 10 years in the NYPD and I have police officers in my family and I have a sort

[4:54:14] of familiar relationships sometimes with police because of that.

[4:54:19] So I kind of get it when it comes to individual officers, but we're talking about a society.

[4:54:30] We're talking about a culture when we talk about police problems, problems in the police departments in Nassal County and Suffolk County in New York and throughout the country actually.

[4:54:45] So, my presence here to speak today is about maintaining a democracy,

[4:54:56] because this bill is a threat to democracy.

[4:55:04] And, you know, it's about the right of the citizens of Nassau County to speak out and to object to mistreatment

[4:55:16] and to object to abuse by government actors.

[4:55:22] Police officers are public servants.

[4:55:25] They're government actors.

[4:55:28] And we have a right.

[4:55:32] All of us have a right to speak out, obviously,

[4:55:36] against abuse and mistreatment and harassment

[4:55:39] by government actors, including the police.

[4:55:47] And Bill, in particular, the irrebuttable presumption,

[4:55:56] which for anyone that doesn't understand

[4:55:58] that, means that if the police are protected category, and I say or do something that

[4:56:07] the police consider harassment, this was says that it's going to be assumed by the fact

[4:56:17] finder by the judge by the jury it's going to be assumed in the lawsuit the police

[4:56:22] bring against me. It's going to be assumed that I said or did what I did to the police

[4:56:29] officer because he's a police officer because he wears a uniform and carries a shield

[4:56:34] and a gun.

[4:56:37] It's already assumed and it's irrebutable. I can't bring a lawyer in to say,

[4:56:47] oh,

[4:56:47] So, yes, this bill gives police officers more rights than all of those marginalized people

[4:56:55] that current federal, state, and local law protect right now, because of their race and

[4:57:02] gender and all of those categories that were mentioned by other people previously.

[4:57:09] So, again, police are public servants.

[4:57:11] They're not marginalized people.

[4:57:14] I mean, no one here is going to try to argue that with me.

[4:57:19] Wearing a uniform is not an inherent characteristic.

[4:57:24] This bill is anti-democratic.

[4:57:28] It's anti-civil rights.

[4:57:30] It violates the tenets of a democratic society.

[4:57:36] Essentially, it gives police absolute discretion

[4:57:39] to decide what is harassment.

[4:57:42] It's like I fear for my life.

[4:57:46] It's okay and important for a police officer to say I fear for my life if he or she does.

[4:57:53] But I'm talking about when they when that's the statement that you have to make to get away with abuse.

[4:58:02] Okay, it's like that.

[4:58:03] It stifles the first amendment, right?

[4:58:05] Okay.

[4:58:05] Every citizen who objects to me, please sum up.

[4:58:09] I will sum up.

[4:58:12] In a democratic society, we need to be able to speak out.

[4:58:17] And this bill is creating a situation that will

[4:58:24] stifle that fundamental, right?

[4:58:27] You cannot call yourself a democratic representative

[4:58:30] of Nassau County citizens and vote for this bill.

[4:58:35] If this body passes this bill after what we have witnessed here today,

[4:58:40] then you will have made a mockery of the legislature

[4:58:42] and your role in it.

[4:58:45] Thank you.

[4:59:09] Good evening, legislators.

[4:59:13] I wasn't going to speak, but there's a voice in this that hasn't been heard yet.

[4:59:20] My name is Lisa Votino, and I am actually a resident of Suffolk County.

[4:59:25] So I thank you in advance for considering my comments today.

[4:59:29] I am a member of Long Island advocates for police accountability, but that's not why I'm here today.

[4:59:35] My fellow members, I said we'll speak, but they've spoken on something that on the troubling

[4:59:44] issues in the stuff that I will speak on something that I unfortunately know well too

[4:59:48] well.

[4:59:49] This is my first time speaking before this legislature, but it is important to note that this

[4:59:54] the body presented me with a citation when I was being knocked.

[5:00:10] I received that award because I'm a community organizer. I work on civil rights and human rights issues.

[5:00:19] One of the main reasons I received the recognition was because of my work with victims of hate crimes and incidents of hate.

[5:00:27] When people say they don't recognize my name, I always reply,

[5:00:32] good.

[5:00:33] I think people think I'm joking, but I'm not.

[5:00:36] It means you've never needed me,

[5:00:38] and that is an incredibly blessed thing.

[5:00:45] And I'll say that this work is very emotional at times.

[5:00:50] Most of my work is in Suffolk,

[5:00:52] and honestly, there is never a lack of work there.

[5:00:56] While much of my work can be very difficult at times,

[5:00:58] as you can see,

[5:01:00] There's honestly nothing that breaks me more than being intimately involved in the aftermath of a heat crack.

[5:01:09] That's how I know most of you have never worked closely with victims of heat crimes.

[5:01:15] And it is to your detriment and their detriment that you haven't.

[5:01:20] You wouldn't be able to stomach this law for a single second if you had.

[5:01:26] After elected officials say their platitudes,

[5:01:29] And activist, push to ensure that circumstances leading up to a hate crime don't happen again.

[5:01:35] And the media leaves.

[5:01:37] That's where you find me.

[5:01:39] I am the person that quietly helps people pick up the shattered pieces of their lives

[5:01:45] when they are forced to try to continue on after something so devastating.

[5:01:58] I have housed hands as verdicts.

[5:02:01] I have been read and I have wiped tears.

[5:02:04] When a person is told that the crime that destroyed their life won't be charged as a hate crime,

[5:02:12] the truth is that we should be tougher on hate crimes.

[5:02:15] And instead, we're debating watering it down to include people

[5:02:18] that at the end of the day, you can take off their uniforms.

[5:02:22] Victims of hate crimes don't have that luxury.

[5:02:27] And it is a luxury.

[5:02:29] You've never received a call at 3 a.m. from a survivor of a hate crime.

[5:02:33] His miracle crying because they finally eat them up inside that had they just been born white.

[5:02:39] This never would have happened to them.

[5:02:41] You all get to sit there and decide whether we are going to make a mockery of their pain.

[5:02:50] We are already under staff and under fund the investigation and prosecution of hate crimes.

[5:02:56] Victims are often for the most marginalized and underserved parts of our community.

[5:03:00] That person on the phone with me at three a.m. has no other redress. Police officers do.

[5:03:08] We have other protections in police officers.

[5:03:11] And if the BLM movement never happened last year, we wouldn't be standing in this room right now.

[5:03:16] We won't know it.

[5:03:18] What you do here affects not only NASA, but it seeps into Suffolk in the country at large.

[5:03:23] And as people have pointed out, it already has.

[5:03:27] History will not look finally on this moment, and your legacies will be tarnished and rightfully so.

[5:03:35] For those in Nassau, I believe they can keep getting by saying, hey, at least we're not suffix.

[5:03:42] I would have you consider that this is the equivalent of Mississippi saying during the civil rights movement.

[5:03:47] hey at least we're not Alabama am I right in 2021 we don't look highly at either for

[5:03:55] their actions during that pivotal moment in our country's history and before you

[5:04:00] dismiss what I say and chalk it up to just another cop heater I assure you I'm

[5:04:05] not I have many friends and family who are in corrections and our officers but if

[5:04:10] you still want to believe I'm Andy Cop and I'm gonna ask for a little extra time

[5:04:15] I refer you to someone you might know.

[5:04:18] I want to ask you to please sum up.

[5:04:19] Everyone is blowing beyond the five minutes.

[5:04:22] I've been very reasonable, but please sum up.

[5:04:25] I get to the end of your comments.

[5:04:29] If you want to still believe on the anti-cap,

[5:04:32] I refer you to someone you might know.

[5:04:35] Former Chief of Nassau Police,

[5:04:36] and current South Hampton Town Police Chief Stevens Reneky,

[5:04:40] who I just finally call Chief.

[5:04:43] We work together to ensure protester and officer safety at the march's last summer, and we worked on police reform in the town of South Hampton.

[5:04:51] We come from two very different perspectives, and I honestly don't know his loss on this.

[5:04:56] But we agree on one simple principle. Leave your community better than you found it.

[5:05:01] And I was asked all of you to do the same today.

[5:05:17] Judy on steam.

[5:05:24] I'll try to take less than five so can make up for others. I'll talk fast.

[5:05:31] Oh, I'm already started. I got, I'm not one of those who had the device. I'm still paper.

[5:05:38] I'm a boomer. Okay. Um, you're all allowed to say okay, boomer to me whenever. Thank you.

[5:05:45] Thank you. Good afternoon. My name is Judy Ornstein. I've been a resident of Nest.

[5:05:50] Oh, wait, do I need to?

[5:05:52] OK, I've been a resident of NASA County for the vast majority

[5:05:55] of my 64 years.

[5:05:57] Yes, I've now admitted that.

[5:06:00] I consider myself a fairly reasonable person

[5:06:04] with the exception of when I'm at an island or game,

[5:06:06] and we're playing the capitals.

[5:06:07] I'm not so reasonable then.

[5:06:12] I think I want to, I just, most of what I was going to say

[5:06:15] has already been said.

[5:06:16] You said it's so much better than I had prepared.

[5:06:20] But I do want to point out a couple of things and just thought a couple of eyes and cross a couple of

[5:06:25] teas.

[5:06:28] A family member of mine asked someone on this body about this bill last week and was told that

[5:06:36] at least as they reported it to me that this was really just a bill that was designed to

[5:06:41] protect police officers who get injured while they're doing their jobs.

[5:06:46] I don't think there's anybody here who doesn't think that a police officer who gets injured

[5:06:51] while doing their job should be able to be compensated for that, should get full salary

[5:06:57] or whatever if they're now disabled.

[5:07:01] And frankly, if there aren't already provisions for officers to get injured on the job,

[5:07:06] then shame on every legislator who hasn't provided for that.

[5:07:09] But the reality is, as has been pointed out to you, this bill does a lot more.

[5:07:15] I don't know any except for two of you, so I don't know this, but I suspect that some of you

[5:07:24] may be sitting up there thinking that some of what has been said here is hyperbole.

[5:07:29] When people say that, you know, people who just, the people in Minneapolis who called

[5:07:35] out to Derek Chauvin, you know, could have been sued under this law.

[5:07:40] I thought, I was the one who invented that one and you did it so well.

[5:07:45] But I've been thinking of nothing but that for this whole weekend.

[5:07:49] Here's why I don't think it's hyperbole, because your law says that harassment is defined

[5:07:57] as it's defined in the New York State Pino law.

[5:08:00] And what I think that nobody has pointed out yet, and I hope you all know this,

[5:08:04] is that 240.26, number three, under New York State Peanut Law definition of harassment, says that a person can be found guilty of harassment if, and I quote,

[5:08:17] he or she engages in a course of conduct or repeatedly commits acts which alarm or seriously annoy such other person.

[5:08:28] You think Derek Sholvin wasn't annoyed by those people?

[5:08:33] I think he probably was.

[5:08:35] I think his colleagues were too.

[5:08:38] And I think that the truly dangerous thing about this

[5:08:41] is that whether it's a person who's being abused by those few

[5:08:46] and please let me be clear, I understand most cops are good

[5:08:50] just like I'm not all cops are bad type of person, right?

[5:08:54] But we all understand that just like in any profession

[5:08:57] there are bad apples, there are bad waiters, there are bad, you know, life cards, there are bad teachers.

[5:09:04] Maybe, none of you, I'm sure.

[5:09:09] But for those few bad apples,

[5:09:14] this law, as written, will have a chilling effect on people trying to

[5:09:19] call out to those bad apples and trying to call them to account.

[5:09:22] If I see somebody, and I'm a privileged white lady, right?

[5:09:26] If I see a police officer abusing his badge,

[5:09:31] and I call out to him.

[5:09:33] I could now be sued by him because I've annoyed him, right?

[5:09:38] And I could be subject to $25,000 fine.

[5:09:40] And the chilling effect is that I think,

[5:09:43] and if you're honest with yourselves, I hope you realize this, too,

[5:09:47] that if this law has been in effect in Minneapolis in 2020,

[5:09:52] Darnella Frazier, probably would not, or maybe likely, would not have had the courage to keep on recording.

[5:10:01] Derek Shovan would have walked. He would have walked.

[5:10:07] And I sure as heck hope, as an almost lifelong resident in Masso County, that is there is not one person sitting up there right now,

[5:10:16] who thinks that that would have been a good thing.

[5:10:19] Thank you.

[5:10:27] Just to McGiven,

[5:10:35] just to McGiven,

[5:10:39] Kevin Shakir.

[5:10:54] A salamalacam.

[5:10:57] This is the message of peace.

[5:11:01] I'm from Westbury.

[5:11:03] Let's just let Abhinos my legislator.

[5:11:05] Thank you so much for always being on the right side of history.

[5:11:18] One ask all of you up here today.

[5:11:21] If you have kids who just turned 16,

[5:11:26] did you have to have to talk with them?

[5:11:30] What does that talk?

[5:11:33] That guys, if you get pulled over, make sure you roll down all your windows, turn the car off,

[5:11:39] and put your hands on your steering wheel.

[5:11:43] That's the conversation I had with my father when I turned 16 years old.

[5:11:48] I didn't understand what that meant at that time.

[5:11:52] I do today.

[5:11:54] had and I got it pulled over and a cop looked at me as a threat. I might not be here today.

[5:12:06] Legislative Laphison were both millennials. We grew up in the same time. Just different school districts.

[5:12:14] I grew up a black people in Hispanics. You grew up with white people. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

[5:12:20] You don't live my life, brother,

[5:12:24] and the thing that I'm astonished, astonished, astonished

[5:12:28] is how the heck did this even get put forward?

[5:12:38] I'm a member of an organization called Empowering Young Professionals, where we try to

[5:12:43] hold government accountable.

[5:12:46] If this gets past today, how can I go back to my membership and say how to be, how

[5:12:54] How can we hold government accountable?

[5:12:56] They're going to tell me, cab, you're crazy.

[5:12:59] I don't have 25K to dish out.

[5:13:04] Do you guys have 25K to dish out if one of your kids?

[5:13:08] One of your cousins did it?

[5:13:10] Maybe.

[5:13:11] I damn sure don't.

[5:13:14] A lot of people in my community damn sure don't.

[5:13:16] Excuse my language.

[5:13:21] This is a mockery.

[5:13:23] You want to talk about the life I live?

[5:13:26] I started the first Islamic radio session in America because Muslims in America don't have a voice

[5:13:36] and to propose something like this against black and brown folks.

[5:13:41] It's a mockery.

[5:13:45] Let me tell you a little story. 9-11. I was in fourth grade.

[5:13:50] I had no idea where religion was. I knew I was Muslim.

[5:13:56] But did I have an idea of what my religion was?

[5:14:00] Of who Osama bin Laden was?

[5:14:03] As fourth grade, nine years old, eight years old?

[5:14:06] No idea.

[5:14:08] But I got bullied for it.

[5:14:11] I got to hate for it.

[5:14:14] But guess what?

[5:14:15] I made a stronger.

[5:14:17] And made us come out here to say,

[5:14:19] No, what's wrong is wrong.

[5:14:23] This is wrong.

[5:14:25] I've had conversations with people, and I did not mention this bill that was going on today.

[5:14:31] I just said, hey, where do you think this law is passed in, in what country?

[5:14:37] None of them said it in the United States of America.

[5:14:40] And if I didn't see this beautiful American flag behind us, and this law gets passed today,

[5:14:46] I don't think when the United States of America.

[5:14:52] Just on Friday, in my office, what I witnessed,

[5:14:58] we have a real thing.

[5:15:00] The agents in my office. They were supposed to show houses here in NASA County.

[5:15:05] Three of them called and said, hey, what this bill that's going into place were not welcome to NASA County.

[5:15:12] Please find me a property out in Queens. Please find me a property in Connecticut.

[5:15:16] Or please give me, you are finding something anywhere except NASA County.

[5:15:21] This is a precedent that we're going to be setting.

[5:15:26] Do you want to be labeled as the county that does not like minorities?

[5:15:32] You tell me guys, or do you want to be inclusive?

[5:15:37] Do you want to welcome everybody?

[5:15:39] And it is beautiful county.

[5:15:42] You guys are the legislators here today.

[5:15:44] What you guys do today will affect you guys for the rest of your lives

[5:15:48] and your names will go down in history on being on the right side

[5:15:52] or the wrong side of history.

[5:15:54] Please be on the right side.

[5:16:03] Excuse me, I know I'm at a order.

[5:16:05] We have children here.

[5:16:06] One is fortunate enough this summer to work with Judge Giannelli.

[5:16:11] They have to leave.

[5:16:12] They didn't know what the process and the procedure in tail.

[5:16:15] If someone can yield their time to two students that approach me and say, can we please

[5:16:20] speak by the time they've built out the form, it was considerably late.

[5:16:25] They're working for Judge Giannelli now and attorney Irwin, they're bright, caring kids

[5:16:31] that want to participate, they participate in my trial all year long till 7 and 830 at night

[5:16:41] at Holy Trinity, but they have to go home now. So when they asked me could they speak and

[5:16:47] I believe in law enforcement. I was blessed to work with the first black detective butler

[5:16:53] in him instead, Coleman, who's since retired, Hamilton. So if you could please let them speak,

[5:16:59] I'd be most appreciated.

[5:17:00] Let me ask, there's other steps here.

[5:17:03] Is everyone else willing to let them go first?

[5:17:06] All right.

[5:17:07] Go ahead.

[5:17:11] You submit, you submit the steps, right?

[5:17:18] So what's your name so we could go on this list?

[5:17:22] My name is Chelsea McNair.

[5:17:23] OK.

[5:17:24] Have you had your name?

[5:17:27] My name is David Reina.

[5:17:29] Thank you.

[5:17:31] Good evening.

[5:17:32] I know we've all been here a very long time and we're all tired

[5:17:36] want to vote and hopefully that this bill will be denied, but what I've learned in school is

[5:17:44] the best way to learn something is to hear it over and over and over again. And you have heard

[5:17:49] over and over and over again why this bill shouldn't go through.

[5:17:57] I would like to start off by saying

[5:17:59] I highly respect law enforcement and I understand, well, not really, but I try to understand what you

[5:18:05] go through every day, but imagine what it's like to walk down the street. And to remember you can't

[5:18:11] your hands in your pocket and you can't have your hood on and you can't have your

[5:18:16] hoodie zipped up because it looks suspicious when you walk down the street.

[5:18:22] Two days ago my mom told me that we were going to come here because there was a

[5:18:27] bill being put up before you guys and I was confused so I decided to look up the

[5:18:32] bill and look at the bill and see what it was about and then I was even more

[5:18:36] confused because it didn't make any sense. So I decided to educate myself

[5:18:41] because that's what I like to do and the broad terms in the bill didn't make any sense.

[5:18:47] It does not take years in law school or years just being alive in general to understand

[5:18:54] that that law is so broad in its terms that it can't possibly make any sense to any of you

[5:19:00] sitting before them.

[5:19:05] The only thing that was defined in that bill was the amount of money and

[5:19:09] compensation that these officers could get.

[5:19:15] Now I made youth in turn with Nassau County and I was

[5:19:18] that the National County Supreme Court, and I am an intern to Veronica Renter Irwin, and she is

[5:19:26] the principal law clerk to judge GNLE. Now, in my time there, it's been six days. Maybe I've

[5:19:34] realized that when cases come before them, if they have a question about what the law says, they

[5:19:40] look it up. Now, if this goes through, and a case like that comes before them, and they look it up,

[5:19:45] And this bill comes, they have no choice but to grant the decision, because it just says, hey, you might as well, how does that make sense?

[5:19:55] I have to write essays in high school that have more character and definition to, by point of what I'm trying to say in my essays than this bill does.

[5:20:09] And the fact that discrimination against police officers is held to a higher standard than discrimination against people of a certain race gender, sexuality, disability and any other protected group.

[5:20:18] Does not make any sense.

[5:20:21] Thank you.

[5:20:30] Today, I believe that we have seen in a ray of different points made by a lot of different people.

[5:20:36] Now, like what Chelsea said in the way that we learned in schools at U.B.P.

[5:20:41] and you study over and over again.

[5:20:44] I believe that when it comes to the emotional side of this, we have seen people up here and become emotional here.

[5:20:56] I believe that this bill is unfair.

[5:21:00] We have seen people fight for their future and right now I feel so that I'm fighting not only for now the present but for the future.

[5:21:11] I have a question to the legislation.

[5:21:13] What do you consider harassment?

[5:21:15] We have seen here in America and in NASA County the impact of police brutality.

[5:21:20] And we have not seen much done.

[5:21:23] But a glance at a police officer could potentially lead someone to become bankrupt.

[5:21:28] You are telling me, as to listen is more menacing that a human being would go up and

[5:21:32] hold search of their waste.

[5:21:34] We are scared.

[5:21:36] Young people are afraid.

[5:21:38] I do not be here, standing here before you, defending my basic human rights.

[5:21:44] I was promised a future of equality, and I don't believe that I should stand here before

[5:21:50] you fighting for that.

[5:21:55] And for the benefit of these police officers here, why are we getting

[5:21:58] punished?

[5:22:01] Why are my human rights out for debate? Thank you.

[5:22:17] Joseph Sackman.

[5:22:26] Good evening. My name is Joseph Sackman. I am a student committee member of Long Island

[5:22:31] activists. I also said I'm the executive board of NIP and your progressive action network.

[5:22:37] When I learned about this bill in June, I was very surprised that it was even the foot-fourth.

[5:22:45] And a lot of us were surprised to me anywhere.

[5:22:49] And then this week, when we find that it goes through committee and now we're all here,

[5:22:53] it took great effort for many people to do a lot in a short period of time.

[5:22:59] Organizing and going out, and I went out and I fired Mr. Drucker's district

[5:23:05] And others, and when I talked to individuals about this, they were extremely surprised that the legislature would put this forward.

[5:23:14] They couldn't believe that what we're doing was taking our democracy and stepping on it.

[5:23:22] To move us towards a police state, North O'erterian state, and that's what this is doing.

[5:23:27] It's a step towards that.

[5:23:29] We will be perverting our human rights and I entirely believe that this law is repugnant to the constitution.

[5:23:40] And if it is repugnant to the constitution, it is your responsibility to not pass this bill.

[5:23:49] If you pass this bill, you are bringing our democracy down.

[5:23:54] And we will take that to note, and we will remember that, and come November, you will see that in the ballot.

[5:24:03] And if you are there, next time you will see us again going out there, defending our democracy, defending our republic,

[5:24:11] and making sure they can pay for it.

[5:24:14] Because we are here to defend our democracy.

[5:24:17] That's what our riot is to do is for the Constitution, and you are looking to destroy

[5:24:24] that.

[5:24:24] I cannot believe it.

[5:24:26] I can't believe Mr. Drucker, who I have spoken with, who I've seen out there would

[5:24:31] do this.

[5:24:32] I am very surprised.

[5:24:33] That's one of the things I blew my mind, and that this was even coming forward.

[5:24:39] It is a shame.

[5:24:40] I can go on and on, but I'm not going to because you've heard it all.

[5:24:43] All the reasons not to do this, and if it does go forward, we will continue to fight.

[5:24:49] And we will make sure that you know that you have just, I'm so emotional about this,

[5:24:58] because I have fought for this constitution, previously, for over several years,

[5:25:03] trying to amend it against corruption laws, and now you're just one little bill,

[5:25:08] and you're going to take us down and further away from our democracy.

[5:25:12] Vote now on this. All of you vote now on this. Thank you.

[5:25:22] Richard Clawlery.

[5:25:46] Don't go. Ladies and gentlemen.

[5:25:50] Do you mention you can't do that?

[5:25:52] I'm sorry.

[5:25:53] That's straight to the point. I don't want to give you people's time.

[5:25:56] All of you.

[5:25:59] Did the members of the lecture say,

[5:26:00] you want to kind of come before you to encourage you to increase funding for the buzzers

[5:26:04] you now as a county?

[5:26:05] Do we do this for this?

[5:26:07] Do we think for this is becoming more obvious for every day?

[5:26:10] cars are becoming more expensive, not just because of insurance maintenance, etc.

[5:26:15] But the simple fact that, because of how complicated cars have become,

[5:26:19] and because of the pandemic, car prices have reached all-time highs, even used ones.

[5:26:23] Because cars are one of the few reliable motors here on the island,

[5:26:28] aside from cabs, the bus service in the Uber.

[5:26:31] This presents a huge problem for young people who want to stay on the island,

[5:26:34] as this well has increased people from the island.

[5:26:37] So, I should want people to stay here on the island and collect from them the revenue you need to keep this kind of going.

[5:26:45] Then you need to, at the next budget being, you need to make a series of investment in buses here on the island.

[5:26:51] So, there are a, all the lines that were cut, which by the way, the M50 was cut quite a long time ago.

[5:26:56] And our next, we'll be restored. There are B, there all buses will be available even on the weekends.

[5:27:03] And that there are B buses at night so that people who come home at night

[5:27:07] won't always depend on their vehicle or cab service, get them home.

[5:27:10] Speaking about the meetings, I tried to look to look

[5:27:12] on the meetings that your own money did is, and it's never there, on there.

[5:27:17] Could you people tell what day it is, so as I, as a responsible citizen here, and as a county

[5:27:22] come parts of the prison process, thank you, and have a good day. And for everyone here,

[5:27:50] Good afternoon, everybody.

[5:28:04] I have been waiting some time to be here and say this, but there's a lot of my mind that is already been said, but I want to bring something else forward in this conversation.

[5:28:13] Pastor Ark of Arthur Mackie mentioned this earlier, but I am absolutely

[5:28:19] incensed that this bill can come forward and sit here in this body right now and

[5:28:26] every single one of you has not addressed a single question asked to you. I'm

[5:28:32] incensed that that can happen and I'm very disturbed that we have not talked

[5:28:37] about the fact that right here in Nassau County we have killer cops on our

[5:28:44] In February of 2020, 19-year-old Matthew Felix was targeted, surveilled, and he was murdered by

[5:28:54] Nassau County Police.

[5:28:56] He was killed by officers who are still on the force today.

[5:29:00] The officers who sold Matthew's life, their names, we fought an entire year,

[5:29:09] and it's

[5:29:09] playing, Alejandro Perez, John G. Evangelio, and Robert Somas, and every single one of them

[5:29:17] has space no consequences for the murder of Matthew Felix. It's disgusting that we're

[5:29:24] introducing a bill to protect officers when young men like Matthew Felix had no protection

[5:29:30] and left their lives to these racist police officers. It's disgusting because tell me how someone

[5:29:37] like Rundee's Jones has no protection.

[5:29:40] For those of you who don't know Rundee's his case,

[5:29:43] his feet were tamed by nine officers.

[5:29:45] He was held down brutally beat, called the N-word

[5:29:48] and racial slurs over and over again.

[5:29:51] He has PTSD because of what your officers have done to him.

[5:29:56] That's what happened in this county right here.

[5:29:58] We're not talking about George.

[5:30:00] We're not talking about Minneapolis, we're not talking about anywhere else in the country, but right here. And so when I say that, that we're going to come and waste everybody's time to say that police officers need protection. When we have two young boys, the tele-rebois, who are beat by police and kidnapped by police, right here in our own community, it's disgusting. It's disgusting. Because in the middle of a pandemic, in the middle of a pandemic, we should be here talking about what you're talking about.

[5:30:30] We're going to do about the millions of people across the country and the thousands right here

[5:30:35] in Nassau County who will be evicted, come August, come the end of August, that's

[5:30:40] what we should be talking about when we're here in this body.

[5:30:43] But yeah, we're talking about the supposed rights and protection of police officers.

[5:30:48] It's disgusting and it is so deeply wrong that we can see here and claim like people like

[5:30:56] Josh can sit there and claim to care one ounce about black lives or about people at all that

[5:31:02] live here.

[5:31:03] And we can't talk about the fact that so many of us struggle with unemployment during

[5:31:09] this pandemic.

[5:31:10] How many of us have struggles with the food on the table for our families?

[5:31:13] And we're going to waste everybody's time talking about this.

[5:31:16] It's horrible and it's atrocious.

[5:31:19] And I want to say to end out my statements that every single one of you that votes for this

[5:31:23] you are a traitor to your people.

[5:31:27] You're a traitor to the people here in Nassau County.

[5:31:29] You're a traitor and you've made that very clear.

[5:31:32] You are no different than the bigots who support

[5:31:35] and segregation that you condemn.

[5:31:37] You are no different in any way shape or form.

[5:31:40] And Josh and specifically, you are a grifter.

[5:31:43] You are a hypocrite and truly an opportunist of the highest order.

[5:31:47] That is what you are and you need to take ownership of that

[5:31:51] because the reality is is that while we're on the precipice of a mass housing crisis,

[5:31:56] we are literally sitting here talking about a bill that doesn't nothing other than criminalized

[5:32:02] protests, it does nothing other than the robots of our civil rights and does nothing other than

[5:32:07] literally insults every single victim of a hate crime we have in Nassau County.

[5:32:12] We had a mosque here in Nassau County deal with a hate crime. It's an insults to that mosque.

[5:32:18] A young lady who had asked it through on her face is an insult to the young lady who had asked it through on her face.

[5:32:24] I have friends and family members of mine who have experienced hate crimes.

[5:32:29] Young Chinese woman who was literally pushed over while getting vaccinated by a racist,

[5:32:34] broke her wrist because of who she was. That's a hate crime.

[5:32:39] And so as an Asian-American here in Nassau County, I can't sit here and deal with the level of disgust that I feel

[5:32:46] for the fact that we're going to redefine hate crimes to be about police officers.

[5:32:51] So I want to end my sentence on this and end my statements on this that you may all feel very

[5:32:55] safe in your jobs today. You may feel like you hold all the cards that you can stick back

[5:33:00] and bask in your power to do what the PBA and police interest pay you to do. That's what happens.

[5:33:06] They pay your paycheck. But the reality is is that fundamentally you can only be on top for so long

[5:33:12] because the people are coming for you.

[5:33:14] And next time, when we have tens of thousands of people in the streets,

[5:33:17] they're coming right for you and your offices.

[5:33:20] Because that's what happens to people who are a traitor

[5:33:22] to the people that they're supposed to represent.

[5:33:25] Thank you.

[5:33:32] Jeremy Joseph.

[5:33:33] Jeremy Joseph.

[5:33:49] Hi. My name is Jeremy Joseph.

[5:33:51] I'm a scientist.

[5:33:53] I'm a member of LA United and NASA, DSA.

[5:33:57] I reside in Hicksville.

[5:33:58] And then my constituent of legislative drucker, who has not turned any of my daily calls this past week,

[5:34:07] so I had to make sure to be here in person.

[5:34:10] So when I first heard of this legislation at the beginning of this summer, I had one response.

[5:34:16] I laughed.

[5:34:17] I cannot believe that something so extreme could even see the light of day,

[5:34:23] and surely no one in their right mind would give this bill a second thought.

[5:34:27] This legislation is straight out of fascist playbook, not something you'd expect to see in a diverse community like ours.

[5:34:36] Two months later, I stand here a full for underestimating just how little our representatives represent us.

[5:34:46] All right,

[5:34:49] so it's become increasingly clear that you do not understand the gravity of the issues that we've been speaking about regarding the bias in policing.

[5:34:58] And to some extent I get it, it's hard to understand something that you've never personally experienced.

[5:35:06] Our characterizations of the police probably seem completely foreign to you, to you the police uphold the law and protect your communities.

[5:35:17] For us in this room, we do not have that same police, and that is why we are here over and over again.

[5:35:26] So, I grew up with this inherent trust of the police as an institution.

[5:35:34] As a teenager, I might have seen this law today, and probably not even given it a second thought.

[5:35:41] Thankfully, we all have a chance to grow.

[5:35:45] I was exposed to the realities of racial bias in policing and what policing meant for someone like me as a young man.

[5:35:55] So, here's a personal story.

[5:35:57] As a young adult, I was leaving a store, late at night,

[5:36:01] and in a parking lot, I was attacked by a group of white men, unprovoked.

[5:36:07] Well, it's not completely true. They're provoked by this,

[5:36:11] by the color of my skin.

[5:36:14] And language warning for those in the room,

[5:36:18] they attack me and let me know because they wanted to,

[5:36:22] In their words, fuck up that nigger.

[5:36:27] Bystanders call the police, and I would point you to the police report,

[5:36:32] except it doesn't exist.

[5:36:35] We couldn't convince the cops to charge my attackers with anything

[5:36:39] much less a hate crime.

[5:36:43] In fact, they ended up chatting with my attackers

[5:36:45] like they were old friends.

[5:36:48] All right, so in case I wasn't clear, let me recap.

[5:36:50] I was attacked by white men with beer bottles,

[5:36:53] because I did not look like them, and then white men with guns came and protected them from consequences.

[5:37:03] I learned that day that the police were not there to protect me.

[5:37:08] They were never there, but to protect me, they were never designed to.

[5:37:13] Hey, crime laws are meant for historically oppressed minority populations.

[5:37:19] They are meant to protect people who have not been protected by the law.

[5:37:25] The police officers here, they'll be the first to tell you that they represent the law.

[5:37:31] So let's make it more simple.

[5:37:33] Hate crime laws are meant to protect people who have not been protected by the police.

[5:37:43] And

[5:37:46] police do not protect us from hate crimes.

[5:37:49] I can tell you first hand, they are often in obstacle to the justice that we seek.

[5:37:59] I mean, if you amend these human rights laws to enhance their status, you are weaponizing

[5:38:09] this designation against the very people it's meant to protect.

[5:38:15] Okay, so, if you want to protect communities from hate crimes, well, you had the chance to do the bare minimum a few months ago and you rejected it.

[5:38:27] Many of us here in this room, we were here with proposals for training cops to recognize and report hate crimes to fully document these instances and make them publicly known for the benefit of affected communities.

[5:38:40] And you all rejected it.

[5:38:44] Well, not all of you.

[5:38:46] There are three legislators here who agree

[5:38:50] that our hate crime procedures among other things were deficient.

[5:38:54] It is no coincidence that they are the three black legislators

[5:38:57] sitting in front of us.

[5:38:58] They told you that our police do not make them

[5:39:01] or their families feel safe.

[5:39:03] We told you that our police do not make us

[5:39:06] or our families feel safe.

[5:39:07] Please, please sum up, sir.

[5:39:11] Now only do you ignore us.

[5:39:12] You're now taking extra steps to entrench their virtually unchecked power.

[5:39:17] Even today, I suspect we'll see the same vote.

[5:39:21] If you want to continue to vote along these lines,

[5:39:24] the next time, we'll skip the pretenses and we'll bring 16 white hoods for you all.

[5:39:35] Any case?

[5:39:36] All right Mr. Joseph, you're done.

[5:39:38] I'll be mad. I'll be even mad your next.

[5:39:41] It's not yours if you're done.

[5:39:43] You're done.

[5:39:44] I'm going to say one last thing.

[5:39:45] No, no, no, no, no. You said your last thing.

[5:39:47] So sit down, please.

[5:39:49] Mr. Ahmed, please come up.

[5:39:51] Mr. Joseph, you're done.

[5:39:56] No, no, no, no, no, no.

[5:39:57] There's a five minute time limit for every speaker.

[5:40:00] Every speaker gets five minutes.

[5:40:03] I have not been forcing it, but I'm going to stop because everyone is violating.

[5:40:07] Five minutes, sir. You had your five minutes.

[5:40:08] Please sit down. Please sit down, Mr. Joe.

[5:40:13] All right, so in case there are times.

[5:40:15] Mr. Joe, I'm telling you, if you don't sit down.

[5:40:19] Excuse me. Someone yielded. Someone yielded their time.

[5:40:25] I'm going to have others to take someone else's time. You will allow him.

[5:40:29] Ma'am, thank you. Mr. Joe, please sit down.

[5:40:32] I need to get protection of my characterization, so consider this.

[5:40:36] My attackers chase me in a parking lot.

[5:40:38] and words for five minutes. You're yes vote on this first responders bill today. We've

[5:40:45] millions of people feeling unsafe in their own communities for years to come. That is a scale

[5:40:50] of violence that my attackers could only dream of. Okay, and in case you think this bill can be

[5:40:57] amended, or it can, you know, I'm concerned that they'll be suggesting that this get table

[5:41:01] and we'll see it come back again. We'll all gladly come back again. Now, there are not just some

[5:41:06] and we problematic parts that can be exercised.

[5:41:09] Let me show you this poster, Jones is a problem.

[5:41:12] It cannot be fixed, Jones.

[5:41:13] This car Bill has no business business leader,

[5:41:15] the origin of the legislators who introduced it to Jones.

[5:41:18] I'm done.

[5:41:22] Mr. Nickello, you cannot start enforcing the rules.

[5:41:26] Just because you don't specifically like what he said.

[5:41:29] I have told this, Miss Gaudera.

[5:41:31] I have told, and we thank you.

[5:41:33] You understand what everybody just saw here happened.

[5:41:35] Miss Gaudera.

[5:41:36] You soon letting everybody out.

[5:41:38] All right, you're right.

[5:41:39] From now on, thank you.

[5:41:40] Thank you.

[5:41:40] Thank you for reminding me.

[5:41:42] From now on, at the five minute mark,

[5:41:44] I'm stopping every speaker.

[5:41:47] Because she's telling me I can't enforce this.

[5:41:50] I'm not forcing rules.

[5:41:51] I have to let everyone go over.

[5:41:52] No, all right.

[5:41:53] So if you want to play that game, we will.

[5:41:55] Five minutes and you're done.

[5:41:57] Mr. Ahmed, please.

[5:41:59] Have you ever met?

[5:42:06] All right.

[5:42:06] I'm not going to enforce it.

[5:42:07] I'll be sure that I can hear you.

[5:42:08] It's going to be five minutes on the dot.

[5:42:10] Thank you, Susan.

[5:42:11] I pray much appreciate.

[5:42:16] I'll be of a mad.

[5:42:20] Mr. Love.

[5:42:23] Dan Lloyd.

[5:42:32] El Favario.

[5:42:44] Excuse me, can you start a girl?

[5:42:47] Sorry, I haven't started yet.

[5:42:52] Hi everybody. My name is Elina Favario.

[5:42:54] You're close. I used to stay there in pronouns.

[5:42:56] I'm here as part of Long Island United and also representing myself.

[5:42:59] I'm non-binary. I'm a proud member of the trans community on Long Island.

[5:43:03] As well as the queer community.

[5:43:03] I want to take this time to remind you all that trans people are not a protected class in

[5:43:08] this county.

[5:43:09] Despite the legislation being brought forward several times, including in 2020 by Drucker,

[5:43:14] Drucker, I'm absolutely disgusted to see you co-sponsoring this bill today.

[5:43:17] How disappointing.

[5:43:19] Trans people are not a protected class in National County, so I know that I'm not worthy

[5:43:24] of protection here or respect, because all of you voted on it, so there's a record.

[5:43:29] Meanwhile, the police became a protected class in 2019.

[5:43:34] Our mind you police work is a job.

[5:43:36] I don't stop being trans, and I don't get paid for it,

[5:43:39] and I don't get benefits.

[5:43:41] Or you're a beautiful presumption.

[5:43:44] Trans people are not a protected class,

[5:43:47] and non-binary people are not recognized in policies

[5:43:49] and NASA or in the NASA county police,

[5:43:51] but you are going to recognize me today.

[5:43:53] Passing this legislation today,

[5:43:55] will not stop critique of the police.

[5:43:58] Because I promise you I am personally not done,

[5:44:00] And institutionally, we are not done holding you accountable.

[5:44:04] And here is the truth of that.

[5:44:06] We do not critique you. I didn't call out of work and come here at 10 a.m. on a Monday to testify

[5:44:14] because of the vague notion that you are police.

[5:44:18] We critique you because the racial disparities in policing in NASA are impossible to ignore.

[5:44:23] Although you try, I can remind you that hispanics are two times more likely

[5:44:26] and black people 5.3 times more likely to be arrested in NASA County than white people.

[5:44:31] We hold you accountable for the latent and blatant racism in the NASA County Police Department

[5:44:36] policies, as well as the rhetoric of the police themselves, including Commissioner

[5:44:40] Ryder, who we all know when on record saying that black applicants are 3 times less likely

[5:44:45] than white applicants to be accepted to the police force because they come from broken homes.

[5:44:50] We call out your hypocrisy when you do not serve and protect the communities you claim

[5:44:55] to, but instead criminalize and over-police communities of color.

[5:45:00] Another vulnerable populations, and protect yourselves. We will continue to speak out because the police cannot, or should I say, will not, or will I say, do not, police themselves? Where is the independent oversight? Where is the inspector general? Where is our CCRB? We,

[5:45:20] our secret to you, because policing is a job. And when someone does not do, or will not do their job, change must come. And that change will come from the need to do.

[5:45:31] of the people, and the communities, not some 16 odd legislators running on PBA money and desperation

[5:45:38] for election votes and pandering parablomatic policies.

[5:45:43] Not the PBA, or Commissioner Reiter, or Laura Kerrin, or the police, or white people in

[5:45:49] this county.

[5:45:50] I mean, we, the people, stakeholders, black and brown people, Asian people, the disabled

[5:45:56] community, veterans, folks of all religions and creeds, queer people, and the trans

[5:46:01] community, we will not be silent, we will not be complacent, we will continue to speak and

[5:46:06] protest and vote and we will have justice in policing on this island and whether you're

[5:46:10] part of that or not is up to you. Whether you want to join us in this work, whenever you

[5:46:15] want to join us in this work, to make long island equitable for everyone, you are welcome.

[5:46:21] I hope that moment is today. We're here. We are always here and if you are not interested

[5:46:28] and that work. I recommend looking for other employment,

[5:46:36] because believe me this offensive repressive

[5:46:38] disgusting legislation is not it. When it comes to talking about things like over employment

[5:46:43] if you want to talk about discrimination, I've stopped getting jobs since I came out. We can go

[5:46:47] there, but you're not ready for it. I want to talk to Josh now. Josh, I hope you'll look at me

[5:46:53] with the same age. Hi, I also live with my parents. They're really conservative. It was really

[5:47:00] cards come out to them because they're both pretty Republican conservative, none of them really

[5:47:04] believe in trans people like most of you. Really difficult. So we have a lot of problematic

[5:47:09] conversations at home, hard conversations. I know exactly what it's like to sit here and

[5:47:13] looking to someone's eyes and know that they are not going to do the right thing, despite

[5:47:16] everyone pleading sometimes for them to do it. I sat down with my mom to talk about the

[5:47:22] legislation because I was so upset as a trans person. I was so offended and you know what she

[5:47:27] said to me, wow, that sounds illegal.

[5:47:31] And if she can see it, so can you.

[5:47:33] And if you continue to ignore it,

[5:47:36] I don't know how you sleep at night.

[5:47:39] Thank you for your time.

[5:47:49] Got any stones?

[5:48:04] You have to know.

[5:48:06] My name is Dennis Jones.

[5:48:08] I've lived in Nassau County for over 20 years.

[5:48:12] I am a form up police officer from the NYPD.

[5:48:16] And I joined the NYPD in 1984, remarkably that I served there for 25 years, but

[5:48:26] included in many different areas of concentration.

[5:48:32] It has been my experience in a long forcement that professionalism plays a great part in

[5:48:40] the performance of your duty as a police officer.

[5:48:44] NASA County police officers are one of the highest paid in the country.

[5:48:50] However, the NASA police officer doesn't answer the amount of 9-1-1 calls or report to the amount

[5:48:58] of parades or demonstrations or even riots in a career that many NYPD officers do each year.

[5:49:07] I spent five years in the Internal Affair Bureau investigating allegations of corruption.

[5:49:18] I ended believing that it was such an unnecessary job.

[5:49:23] How bad things could be in such a great police department?

[5:49:31] I immediately found out that to be otherwise.

[5:49:36] There are bad officers in law enforcement, there are bad doctors, there are bad lawyers,

[5:49:44] there

[5:49:44] are situations that take place months and years to investigate, to expose the truth

[5:49:52] and the cover up.

[5:49:55] All of you, you see the many cases brought before the innocent project, brought before by the

[5:50:02] innocent project and how many years that have been taken away from truly innocent people

[5:50:08] as they write in jails all across the country.

[5:50:14] Those innocent people were arrested and convicted

[5:50:16] because of the lies told by unprofessional and corrupt police officers.

[5:50:25] And we've seen that many and many times here in Long Island.

[5:50:31] NASA County is exposed in a very dangerous area

[5:50:34] that would surely lead to some of the most despicable acts

[5:50:38] and destroy lives, you cannot apologize for later.

[5:50:45] Change your national county's human rights law to make it an unlawful

[5:50:50] discriminatory practice to arrest, menace, assault, or injure, an individual

[5:50:56] due to such individual status as a first responder,

[5:51:03] is slipping into a slippery slope of

[5:51:07] of retaliatory practice.

[5:51:11] You should be here fighting for the legislation

[5:51:13] to protect all citizens, not to put citizens in harm's way.

[5:51:21] For we all know and believe that the rights of national residents

[5:51:25] who want to exercise their freedom of speech

[5:51:28] and the right to peacefully assemble would be a jeopardy.

[5:51:34] Again, we should be looking to reimagine policing

[5:51:37] as a new state governor had demanded.

[5:51:40] Look at the rest of the country,

[5:51:43] reimagining policing is taking place all over,

[5:51:47] even in the tough areas.

[5:51:49] The murder of George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter movement

[5:51:53] has not sparked this insensitive action elsewhere.

[5:51:59] They are building, not running scared.

[5:52:02] Elsewhere we see collaboration, not separation.

[5:52:07] You know, the legislation, as was said before, talks about recent widespread patterns, the

[5:52:16] physical attacks, and intimidation, directed at police, and we know we find that nowhere

[5:52:22] here in NASA.

[5:52:24] And over several hundred injuries sustained,

[5:52:29] we haven't seen any of that here in NASA.

[5:52:30] So I ask you simply, just to vote no, because this does more harm than supposed intended

[5:52:39] good.

[5:52:40] Thank you.

[5:52:49] Douglas Mayor?

[5:52:52] Douglas still here?

[5:52:57] Reverend Tristan Sally.

[5:53:06] Steve Abray.

[5:53:13] Good evening.

[5:53:14] How's it going, Josh?

[5:53:15] Last time I saw you, it was probably 2019, kind of hemp-stead marijuana task force hearing,

[5:53:21] where I was pulled off the podium for bringing up donations you took from Trump-connected

[5:53:25] consulting firms.

[5:53:27] That was fun. So here we are again two years later. Thanks, man. Like, you know, you made a lot easier for people to believe me that you're a scumbag.

[5:53:35] Like, for the past three years, a lot of people in this room I've been talking to, I've been learning, you know, this guy's wolf and sheep's clothing, he's a...

[5:53:44] Listen, listen, sir. So, you're gonna, you can speak all you want, but you're not gonna use profanity like that, all right?

[5:53:51] We have, we have, we have certain levels of civility here, so if you're going to use that,

[5:53:57] you're not going to speak, but speak on the bill, go ahead, go press the button again.

[5:54:04] Red button again. All right, so I got an extra 40 seconds on my timer now, so I'm just going

[5:54:09] to ignore when you tell me to stop talking. Anyway, well, no one believed me for years. They didn't

[5:54:14] believe me. Oh, we can trust him. He's a good guy. He's just doing the best he can. Oh, now look

[5:54:17] Look at you did, bro.

[5:54:19] Now, like literally everyone that wouldn't listen to me.

[5:54:21] Now they're like, oh, they'll sound like me now.

[5:54:23] It's crazy.

[5:54:24] We got to get this Josh left and they're not out of there.

[5:54:26] He's horrible.

[5:54:26] He's fashionable.

[5:54:27] He's sport's a police.

[5:54:28] It's awesome, man.

[5:54:29] It really, really is.

[5:54:31] I mean, even your friend, Nakeel, man.

[5:54:33] Like, I tried reaching out to him two years ago to tell him about you.

[5:54:35] And he vouched for you, man.

[5:54:36] He vouched for you so much that we don't talk anymore.

[5:54:40] I haven't spoken to him in two years.

[5:54:41] And now you're not your turn, he's phone calls.

[5:54:44] That's wild, bro.

[5:54:46] I mean, it's as crazy. I mean, I got post on Facebook from last year, like, God of

[5:54:50] Love East Hack Long Island Democrats like Lafazan, Keren, Balloon, Garen, Drucker, who

[5:54:54] proudly stood with racist cops or Republicans against cannabis legalization all

[5:54:58] last year. Despite being presented time and time again, now they want to pretend like

[5:55:02] they're black-wise matter, like they support racial justice. I mean, and people thought

[5:55:07] I was crazy. You know what I mean? They're doing the best. And now here we are. All you

[5:55:11] could do is try to rename the board of elections after Shirley Chisholm, like what? And

[5:55:15] And that even happened, that didn't happen.

[5:55:17] It's still the board of elections, okay, great, bro.

[5:55:20] I mean, this is just, it's great.

[5:55:22] I mean, really though, like you really,

[5:55:23] like, people thought I was crazy.

[5:55:25] They really thought that was just like,

[5:55:26] I had a chip on my shoulder or something.

[5:55:28] I was jealous of you, like, okay.

[5:55:30] Well, now that's clearly not the case, man.

[5:55:33] Like, I mean, you did this two years ago

[5:55:34] with the Water Balloon Fiasco.

[5:55:37] First and foremost, we cannot keep our community safe.

[5:55:39] We don't keep our officers safe

[5:55:40] and that one under the radar.

[5:55:41] A lot of people have noticed that one,

[5:55:42] but here we are, two years later, thank you, Josh.

[5:55:46] And, you know, this is interesting too, I mean, you people keep saying how the community supports this bill, the community supports our police, but I didn't hear anyone from the community company support this bill.

[5:55:56] I mean, hardly any of your police officers came up and supported this bill.

[5:56:00] All the police officers you had here all did all gone now, like there's more of us than there are of you right now.

[5:56:04] How many cops came to your support this bill, like three or four, the top brass, like, and that's it.

[5:56:09] Not in the street, no one on the beacon up this testifying say, I feel unsafe on the streets of

[5:56:14] National County, which is apparently the most safest county in all America.

[5:56:18] You guys got a pick one.

[5:56:20] The safest county in America, or it's so dangerous, we got to make police more protected than

[5:56:25] transgender people in National County, which is insane as the brother of a transgender

[5:56:30] Latinx sister, who had never had any protection in this county, even when she was a child,

[5:56:35] as a student in a plane-view school district,

[5:56:38] and the ever-loving S. Beaton out of her called gay,

[5:56:45] called girly, called Fez, called S-P-I-C,

[5:56:52] like it, but no protection for her as a transgender latina.

[5:56:57] But let's give all the protection in the world

[5:56:58] that people would put on a uniform.

[5:57:00] I don't understand, so she'd become a cop,

[5:57:03] and then she'll be protected.

[5:57:09] I mean, I mean, I know people who have called the cops for a assault from like from

[5:57:13] roommates and stuff like that.

[5:57:14] I mean, told, oh, well, the only way you can press charges is if we let the other person

[5:57:19] press charges against you, too.

[5:57:20] And then you're both going to spend the night in jail, and what?

[5:57:23] But now we got this.

[5:57:25] I can't make any sense of it.

[5:57:27] And I mean, it's almost talking before about consulting firms.

[5:57:29] What are the consulting firms that wrote this bill?

[5:57:31] I mean, I know the consulting firms that you work with Josh.

[5:57:34] So let's talk about Gotham consulting firm.

[5:57:36] The one run by New York State Democrat, Jim,

[5:57:40] and David Schwartz, the same David Schwartz,

[5:57:43] who defended Donald Trump and Michael Cohen

[5:57:47] against story Daniels.

[5:57:49] The same David Schwartz who runs Gotham consulting firm

[5:57:52] that claimed to fame is running the organizing

[5:57:57] the first ever presidential campaign rally

[5:58:00] for Donald Trump in 2015.

[5:58:02] The same David Swartz, who's claimed to fame for you,

[5:58:06] is introducing you to JJ,

[5:58:07] who's been putting on a map for NASA county politics.

[5:58:10] That's all in the record.

[5:58:11] It's his own words, man.

[5:58:12] I mean, you've taken $2,500 for him recently.

[5:58:15] You've taken $2,000 from his firm.

[5:58:17] How is he taking the PBA?

[5:58:19] I was just looking at that one.

[5:58:20] I could just sum up.

[5:58:21] I got 40 seconds left.

[5:58:24] You took $2,500 for NASA county PBA tech June 3rd, 2019.

[5:58:30] How's that working out? You enjoying that $2,500? Is that helping your campaign?

[5:58:36] That's cheap, man. Like that's all it costs for this. $2,500 for all this.

[5:58:43] That's just really blows my mind. Let's look at Luska.

[5:58:48] Mule only took from the

[5:58:52] report pb eight five hundred dollars or a thousand dollars and twenty thousand dollars. Why does cheap man damn

[5:58:58] Is that all we got to do is have to give you guys some money. You'll not pass these crappy bills and

[5:59:03] Who took for a dollar from the Glencoe PBA

[5:59:07] Looks like friends of

[5:59:09] Delia

[5:59:10] $400 in 2021 in June, 18th, and June 6th, 18th,

[5:59:14] which is $20 from Glencoe, PBA.

[5:59:17] It sounds like the same kind of timing

[5:59:19] with this big coming out.

[5:59:20] I want to call the next one.

[5:59:22] I want to call the next one.

[5:59:22] Call it, I've got to put it all in the credit card.

[5:59:25] I really agree, Owens.

[5:59:29] Thank you.

[5:59:29] And I'm representing a Long Island Normal,

[5:59:31] the National Organization for the Reform

[5:59:33] of Marijuana Laws, and I'm a Foreign Steer

[5:59:34] and Committee of Long Island Activist.

[5:59:36] Thank you.

[5:59:42] My name is Julie Gray Owens.

[5:59:44] I'm the Executive Director of Gender Equality

[5:59:46] New York, a statewide transgender, non-binary, and intersex advocacy organization.

[5:59:53] I'm here to remind this legislative body that for years transgender advocates pleaded with

[5:59:59] you.

[6:00:00] Cautify civil rights protection for gender expansive long Islanders. Long story short, you fail to protect our community. Ironically, however, you are now preparing hate crimes protection for a mainly white, mainly heterosexual, mainly cisgender, well-paid police force.

[6:00:23] Where was this level of concern when we came here pleading for our basic civil rights?

[6:00:34] Equating protected class minority community members with well-paid individuals

[6:00:41] who choose their profession is the height of hypocrisy.

[6:00:48] Our police are already protected under law and crimes committed against them already

[6:00:54] come with steep penalties. I want to make it clear that support for the legislation will

[6:01:02] be a signal of your indifference to freedom of speech and the right to demonstrate. I want

[6:01:10] to make it clear we are watching you.

[6:01:24] To be a scientist.

[6:01:36] To be a scientist, President CEO,

[6:01:38] Urban League of Long Island, I've been here for a little five hours and I have to tell you that not only am I disappointed and a lot of my friends, I'm pre-season professionals I've been around for a couple of years and I have served with so many people on this island and it's really, really hard to understand

[6:02:08] How a waste of taxpayers money today. I just don't believe what will waste it. I'm looking at these cops.

[6:02:17] My father was a police officer. A father served in a military. They have been standing here all day.

[6:02:25] I know they have other things to do. This is absolutely ridiculous.

[6:02:31] that we are in here at this point just before a vote. Why was it this stop, Edita?

[6:02:42] There's lots of things that we could be doing. And I heard so much today I had this

[6:02:48] revelation. This is about money.

[6:02:54] This is not about the black community being upset with the

[6:02:58] Yeah, it is a level to it, but that's the camouflage.

[6:03:02] At the end of this, if this goes forward,

[6:03:06] they're going to be poor people that are enslaved in a new way

[6:03:12] under debt because they have to defend themselves.

[6:03:17] And not just poor people, you know, when we say that phrase

[6:03:21] along Alan, you know, it sounds funny.

[6:03:23] Well, when you say poor people along Alan,

[6:03:25] I'm talking about folks making 70, 80, over $100,000, but if you start adding on that you've got this build, you have to pay this 50 grand, because you looked at a cot room.

[6:03:38] I mean, that is on the herd of anywhere in this country. If this goes forward, what's next? So the teacher's union's coming.

[6:03:48] Because that kid that curses at the teaching now, maybe we can put teachers in a protected

[6:03:54] class.

[6:03:55] What about the lawyers?

[6:03:58] Right?

[6:03:58] Let's put lawyers in today.

[6:04:00] I say, let's vote for the ledge.

[6:04:03] Let's put all of you in a protected class.

[6:04:06] This can go on and on and on.

[6:04:11] Meanwhile, the street lights don't work anymore.

[6:04:14] to sue the water, it's not running clean because we have spent all this police overtime

[6:04:24] standing in a legislative building today. Is this, is this, is this, is this, is this, is this any sense for any of you, you know, listen, my dad was a cop in Harlem in the 60s.

[6:04:39] Now, just think about it, those are new millennials you might not get to contact, so I'll tell you.

[6:04:44] The contacts was during the civil rights movement.

[6:04:47] They hired black cops to patrol the black neighborhood.

[6:04:52] They wouldn't, they didn't want to, it was very dangerous in Holland to send a white cop in Holland.

[6:04:58] So they hired black cops.

[6:05:00] So we saw it as a family.

[6:05:02] We saw the hate.

[6:05:03] I father was hated by the community, he was hated by the blue, it was it was so much of a struggle.

[6:05:11] But this has got to stop. This is absolutely ridiculous. We have other problems that we need to work on.

[6:05:20] I mean, if this, if this bill had any merit, I'm quite sure you would have heard something else today.

[6:05:27] So to put a person that's already on payroll and come up to tell you, this is a great bill, that's not a valid justification, that is a good bill.

[6:05:38] Not at all.

[6:05:40] Everybody else, not on payroll, came up here and told you something different.

[6:05:45] Some fleeting with you.

[6:05:47] I am really pleading with you.

[6:05:49] I would not have said here five hours.

[6:05:51] I don't want to do other things to do.

[6:05:53] all these other people at any answer to you and put the cops back out on the street to do their jobs.

[6:05:59] I haven't standing in the late for hours, but this is absolutely ridiculous.

[6:06:05] So if you really want to figure out some way to bring something so forth forward,

[6:06:10] maybe we need to talk about what this is and what the intent was.

[6:06:16] I find it hard to believe that we would get to this point

[6:06:19] When people have so much misunderstanding about a document, give us some time.

[6:06:25] I would love to see a table and just, you know, let's do something else.

[6:06:31] But if you choose not to kill it, we do need some discussion.

[6:06:35] So I plead with you all to please.

[6:06:39] Let's discuss this.

[6:06:41] Thank you, Fred, for your leadership on this. I appreciate it.

[6:06:45] Thank you.

[6:06:47] Thank you.

[6:06:53] Thank you.

[6:06:53] Ashna Gibbons.

[6:07:10] All right.

[6:07:11] Hello.

[6:07:12] I'm a high schooler.

[6:07:14] I've waited here as long as anybody else and everybody else who's sacrificed their

[6:07:21] Monday not working.

[6:07:23] I want to thank you for coming out to oppose this bill.

[6:07:28] First, I wanted to say that I want to note that minus the people from people

[6:07:35] from police benevolent associations, every single constituent that has come out here has told you

[6:07:40] how horrendous this bill is going to be, if you pass it. Every single one of your constituents

[6:07:46] who pays your salary has come out here and told you, we are your boss, we've told you this is horrible,

[6:07:53] and I don't understand why it hasn't a table yet. We're just waiting for you to table it.

[6:07:58] That's why we're still up here speaking.

[6:08:04] Let's see, I've been doing some research into New York State penal law as a result of this bill being put forth.

[6:08:13] I see it as unnecessary for many reasons.

[6:08:18] First of all, there is no evidence. People have been saying this all day.

[6:08:22] There is no evidence that this bill is necessary.

[6:08:25] That should be caused to table it right then and there.

[6:08:30] yet, again, there's more evidence.

[6:08:33] Police are already a protected class under sub-division K of section 21-9.2 of the county administrative

[6:08:39] code.

[6:08:40] They're already a protected class along with minority groups who cannot change their physical attributes

[6:08:48] about themselves that make them discriminate against them for, although police can't.

[6:08:53] So police already have this protection.

[6:08:55] They already have weapons and they're already trained.

[6:08:58] At all times when they're in uniform, when you, which is when this irrebutable presumption is applicable,

[6:09:08] that a person would be discriminating, quote unquote discriminating against a police officer.

[6:09:14] It's guaranteed that police officers are already going to be armed and trained to deal with a potential physical threat.

[6:09:22] So I don't understand why the legislature thinks that financial compensation is further necessary

[6:09:30] further than other people are given under New York State Pino law.

[6:09:34] For example, under medicine, assault and harassment as well as injury which are the four things defined under the law.

[6:09:42] I read a couple of times I hope you can tell I have my notes here.

[6:09:49] the defendant in addition to any, you know, civil liabilities that's pointed out by other lawyers smarter than myself.

[6:09:59] She'll be subject to a civil penalty of no more than $25,000 per violation per violation.

[6:10:05] Now, when a violation can be a small as a quote, a noise for her, you know, harassment under this law.

[6:10:12] Twenty-five thousand dollars seems like a bit much. I'm pretty annoyed right now. A lot of people have expressed their annoyance

[6:10:19] But we're not getting 25 grand. You know, I don't see my money and

[6:10:30] Under the New York State Pino law medicine and assaults the first degrees are felonies and

[6:10:35] Currently for everyone else besides police officers who decided they wanted to become a police officer

[6:10:41] Fines are not to exceed $5,000.

[6:10:45] So why do police get five times the money?

[6:10:47] Why are you allowing police to get five times

[6:10:50] the money I'd like to know for per violation,

[6:10:54] in addition to these civil liabilities under this law

[6:10:59] and if it is determined to be a riot, $50,000.

[6:11:02] 10 times more than fines for felony are generally

[6:11:06] and that includes, I checked that it includes,

[6:11:10] a sense of such as medicine and a soul, so they're getting potentially 10 times the amount

[6:11:17] that a regular person would receive, even though they don't even have to prove that anything

[6:11:25] happens to them, because I guess, you know, PBA money, you know, just buys that, I guess

[6:11:33] for them, you know, that's how much however many thousands of dollars, and let yourself

[6:11:38] I also wanted to tell you, I'm a constituent of yours, I can't vote, but my parents can.

[6:11:43] And in approximately a year, I will be able to vote.

[6:11:47] So, you know, I look forward to not voting for any of the legislators that vote, yes, for this bill.

[6:11:54] At this point, I'm sorry, excuse me. At this point, when people have been speaking for, you know, five plus hours, talking at you, all of your constituents,

[6:12:04] If any of you vote, yes, I'm genuinely concerned for your mental health, how you came to this decision.

[6:12:13] How this was a logical decision for you.

[6:12:18] Yeah, that's it. Thank you.

[6:12:28] Gregory Lewis, Gregory Lewis, Gregory Lewis.

[6:12:37] Reverend Monty, Malik, Chandler.

[6:12:45] Patricia Spencer.

[6:12:46] Okay,

[6:12:54] our Kush,

[6:13:05] I don't know, what's it in?

[6:13:08] Diane Clark Smith.

[6:13:12] Who years at that time?

[6:13:15] Who year at that time too?

[6:13:17] The Reverend.

[6:13:20] He had to go back to Long Beach.

[6:13:30] My name is Diane Clark Smith, and my husband and I are attorneys,

[6:13:34] and parents of three and district 12.

[6:13:38] Thank you for serving us, Mr. Kennedy.

[6:13:42] My mother-in-law served as a first responder at NUMC for 32 years.

[6:13:49] My mother works at a fire department for 22 years, and yes, we even have multiple members

[6:13:56] of law enforcement.

[6:13:58] We have questions.

[6:14:00] The county is on record as saying the protests and Trump rallies were peaceful last summer.

[6:14:06] This county has ranked number one by U.S. news and world reports.

[6:14:14] The justification for this bill was spelled out, I believe, in the preamble, as purportedly

[6:14:19] being the January 6th insurrection.

[6:14:24] This resolution would send out mobile alerts to all residents whenever an officer is injured

[6:14:32] during a protest.

[6:14:33] That is surely not going to trigger vigilante justice.

[6:14:40] The very actions that the January 6th insurrection that the bill purports to address.

[6:14:50] If a civil suit is brought by a first responder and they lose,

[6:14:55] are the officers to be on the hook for the legal fees and the court costs?

[6:14:59] Are the p-

[6:15:00] TBA going to cover those court costs. Who's going to pay the lawyers? If not, the county, the tax payer, will be responsible. If the county attorney is tasked with defending, lawsuits alleging police misconduct, how can their office also bring on behalf of first responders,

[6:15:27] lawsuits on behalf of this bill? How is that not a conflict of interest?

[6:15:32] Under the rules of professional responsibility,

[6:15:35] a shirtably would be, a attorneys

[6:15:38] were sworn to uphold the Constitution.

[6:15:40] This very legislative body was sworn

[6:15:44] to uphold the Constitution.

[6:15:46] These officers were sworn to uphold the Constitution.

[6:15:50] This bill violates the U.S. Constitution,

[6:15:55] the New York State Constitution.

[6:16:01] Speaking of lawyers, will this bill be applied

[6:16:03] do attorneys who bring suits against officers? If so, would that likely pound as an occurrence

[6:16:11] under malpractice law? Posing a attorney's premiums to skyrocket and likely discouraging

[6:16:20] attorneys from representing those who are accused. These are questions that need to be answered

[6:16:26] And before any vote on this bill can take place,

[6:16:32] what will happen to the small businesses

[6:16:35] who are fairly recovering after COVID,

[6:16:42] as to by the state to enforce COVID protocols as

[6:16:45] we're possibly going into other issues and going to have to mask up again.

[6:16:52] What will happen to those small businesses who simply ask a uniform officer to wear masks?

[6:16:59] Based upon the irrebotable presumption that small businesses could be sued when they're just protecting

[6:17:06] their customers and employees in avoiding state fines, they can be sued.

[6:17:13] What about my artistic child who offends the cop as he tends to offend everyone, by virtue

[6:17:21] of having behavioral issues?

[6:17:23] Is that parents on the hook for their child's actions?

[6:17:29] Do we lose our home?

[6:17:31] Because our child is sued.

[6:17:34] These policies are building a,

[6:17:36] leaving us taxpayers' dry.

[6:17:38] My tax bill is $14,000 a year.

[6:17:42] And going up.

[6:17:44] My endless tax bill is over $12,000.

[6:17:49] My sister-in-law and brother-in-law's,

[6:17:51] of our taxes are crazy already, and we're paying for this. We are. When an officer makes mistakes

[6:18:00] they're protected by qualified immunity, afforded by no other protective class. The county pays

[6:18:07] out millions of our tax payer money every year, while underfunding the programs that would keep

[6:18:14] us in safe. That would keep these officers safe.

[6:18:20] The decisions made by our legislature today

[6:18:23] Well-drive homeowners like my family who invest in this community,

[6:18:31] volunteer our time and contribute

[6:18:33] to your campaigns to go looking elsewhere. And we do, we do individually as a family,

[6:18:40] we contribute to your campaigns.

[6:18:44] I understand. My point is we have protect and serve backwards. It is the public servants

[6:18:51] job to serve the public. The first responders job, the legislature's job, not the

[6:18:57] tax favorite. Payers job. We've got enough.

[6:19:09] Come out, Cush, a little bit for it.

[6:19:14] Richard Casowski.

[6:19:26] How are you doing? Sir, my name is Richard Casowski. I'm a resident of NASA County.

[6:19:31] I'm a conservative, that's my ideology. I'm a pro-police, but my role model is Frank

[6:19:37] circle.

[6:19:38] The patrolman that was shot in the face by his fellow officers, not protecting him doing

[6:19:45] a buy-and-bust.

[6:19:46] So, what I wanted to address, the issue is this, all you legislators have sworn in

[6:19:53] oath of the office to uphold and protect the U.S. Constitutional State Constitution

[6:19:58] of various laws of the state and the county.

[6:20:01] If any rule, regulation, ordinance, policy, procedure, law comes in conflict with the Constitution,

[6:20:10] you shall not enforce the law, you shall not implement that law.

[6:20:15] If you do your in direct violation of your oath of office, you swore under the penalties

[6:20:19] of perjury, oath of affirmation, so you are in violation if you do best this law.

[6:20:24] It's clearly in conflict with the Constitution.

[6:20:27] First of all, is a question of multiple constitutionality issues, for example, substantive

[6:20:32] due process, procedural due process.

[6:20:35] What about the 14th amendment equal protection under the law in the fifth amendment?

[6:20:40] So you've got multiple issues.

[6:20:41] When you get the irrebutable presumption, all the police officers to do is alleged something

[6:20:46] harassment.

[6:20:47] If you intend to arrest her, I'm in the way.

[6:20:49] Well, okay, the statute says, we're going to legitimate purpose.

[6:20:52] Well, I'm filming a police officer.

[6:20:53] I want to hold him accountable because his systemic corruption in the NASA County Police

[6:20:57] problem. That is not being addressed. So now, when I try to address the issue, what happens now,

[6:21:03] police officer files a lawsuit says, he, I harassed him along the Manoyam. The question is

[6:21:07] a constitution protected activity. Well, they're not going to address that issue because maybe

[6:21:12] to jury a jury is not of my peers. Maybe he doesn't think like I do. Maybe thinks I shouldn't

[6:21:17] question my government. So if I question my government, I'm quizzing an annoyance and that's a

[6:21:27] Now, that's absurd, because how would I defend myself if the officer says, I harassed them,

[6:21:33] now it constitutes a hate crime, there's no evidence like the bring forth, because the judge

[6:21:39] canement and detainment and the jurors can, because it's a remarkable presumption. It's totally

[6:21:44] outrageous for any of the legislators to consider this as treasonist to me. As far as I'm concerned,

[6:21:50] treasonist, you're violating the oath of office, you know you oath, you swat the oath. So now there's

[6:21:55] No reason you're unnoticed now.

[6:21:58] You are noticed by me and multiple other people at spoke.

[6:22:01] And also I want to mention the issue.

[6:22:03] There is systemic police corruption in the NASA county police department.

[6:22:07] I am saying it as a white male.

[6:22:08] I see systemic corruption in the police department.

[6:22:12] The police tamper with the police reports.

[6:22:15] This is not to say this in the county.

[6:22:18] The reason why it's safe because they falsify police reports.

[6:22:21] There's multiple things that are going on.

[6:22:23] I've seen it.

[6:22:24] In spite of the stillment of the internal affairs, it has committed multiple violations,

[6:22:30] total corrupt.

[6:22:31] The district attorney fails the public corruption, the division of the district attorney

[6:22:35] fails to investigate allegations of police corruption that are protecting one in their

[6:22:40] own.

[6:22:41] They've got a symbiotic relationship, so into woven, that they're one in the same.

[6:22:45] So if the police go down, the prosecutor goes down as well, and that's the issue.

[6:22:50] And the other issue is this, is that the NASA County Police Department has got

[6:22:53] two separate policies, one official lawful policy, that's the one everybody knows, that's

[6:22:59] the professionalism they betray to the public, the actual, but then they get an unofficial

[6:23:03] unlawful policies, where quotas, arrest quotas, stop question and frisk, they may tell

[6:23:08] you not, but it's all about activity, it's about performance, they don't call it, they

[6:23:12] disguise it, they don't call it numerical quotas, they call it, they call it activity,

[6:23:17] performance goals, but whatever I'm saying is that there's systemic corruption in the

[6:23:21] County Police Department, when multiple people try to get reformed here, pertaining to the

[6:23:27] Inspector General or an outside agency to investigate police corruption, you guys didn't

[6:23:32] want to take it up.

[6:23:33] Now, the PBA is very powerful, is superior officers and multiple of the entities, a very

[6:23:37] powerful.

[6:23:38] I'm not anti-police, I'm anti-corruption, I am a constitutionalist to the extreme.

[6:23:43] You guys talk about the rule of law here, right?

[6:23:46] You say about police and protecting the police and the rule law, my podcast is called

[6:23:50] of law news. I am specifically about the rule of law. My podcast talks about why internal affairs

[6:23:57] fail if I investigated agencies, fail or refused adequately investigate allegations of police corruption

[6:24:04] in misconduct in police departments with the blue wall of silence. That's a qualifier. The

[6:24:09] NASA County Police Department has a blue wall of silence. The reason why he's they got two separate

[6:24:13] policies and the reason when there's two separate policies, there's a need for secrecy,

[6:24:18] The blue wall is established and everything else follows through.

[6:24:22] They have to have secrecy, and if anyone tries to penetrate their secrecy, they will be persecuted.

[6:24:27] So I'm against the bill and I hope you'll rule accordingly.

[6:24:39] Sonia Aurora.

[6:24:45] Either Feld or Feldner.

[6:24:55] Hello.

[6:24:57] Like a lanty.

[6:25:05] It's like a smell.

[6:25:06] All right.

[6:25:08] I'm probably not going to raise my voice or hit the table.

[6:25:12] Please do not mistake that for me.

[6:25:14] not taking this very seriously or as an dispersion to the validity of others having done the same.

[6:25:20] Now, I want to remind everyone that this is not a referendum on the police as a whole,

[6:25:25] although we have had a lot of important statements to that effect.

[6:25:29] This is about a very specific law.

[6:25:33] And the task before you today, there's some stuff that I don't know, but basically it's either, you have to vote no, you have to vote yes.

[6:25:41] If you want to vote no do it today, because there's so many reasons why you should vote no today.

[6:25:48] We've heard them all. I really won't repeat them, but basically, unpopularity is not persecution,

[6:25:54] and a protected class is designed to provide redress to victims of persecution.

[6:26:00] Now, if you want to vote yes, and I suspect from looking at some of your faces that you do, you can't vote yes today.

[6:26:06] We've heard so many reasons why from sources as diverse as the ADA of a county, affected

[6:26:14] police, affected community members, the NAACP, many attorneys of various different stripes

[6:26:20] and practice, teenagers, boomers, people who are of the BIPOC community, why allies of

[6:26:27] the BIPOC community, I would like to say my name is L, I use they then pronouns, I'm a member

[6:26:32] of the non-binary and trans communities.

[6:26:35] So all I can say is that we've heard so many procedural and

[6:26:41] draft-related reasons why this bill is not being passed.

[6:26:46] Now I want to speak to why I believe Legislator Lafazan is not looking at people.

[6:26:51] He's not looking at his phone.

[6:26:52] He's doing a speech into bait flow because he chose to hear all of our

[6:26:58] objections so that he can refute them.

[6:27:00] we know that this is the case. So rather than allowing this kind of bad faith debate to take place,

[6:27:10] simply give it more time to take place in good faith. That's what you must do if you want to vote

[6:27:17] yes, you can't do it today. And I think I've made my point around that. The last thing that I really

[6:27:29] to leave on a more maybe philosophical or spiritual note, it doesn't feel nice to be told that

[6:27:38] you should be ashamed of yourself. I know this, I know shame as a queer person on Long Island,

[6:27:45] I know shame. It does not feel nice to be told that you should be ashamed of yourself. And a

[6:27:49] lot of the time when you don't feel nice, you feel a desire, I feel a desire personally,

[6:27:54] to take some kind of punitive action against those who might shame me to say,

[6:28:01] hey, you want to shame me? Guess what? Yes on this bill. And I just want to really emphasize,

[6:28:09] I did hit the table, look at that. I really want to emphasize that you as an individual

[6:28:16] are not a bad person. Even if you are engaging in behavior, that is shame worthy for affected

[6:28:28] members of a community. You're not a bad person, and there's never a wrong time or a too

[6:28:35] late to hear criticism and say, you're right. I also would like to say on that same spiritual

[6:28:46] note that nobody thinks that choosing to become a cop is choosing an easy profession.

[6:28:51] I would not choose it for that very reason.

[6:28:54] I don't think that anyone would ever say that being a police officer is easy.

[6:29:01] What we are saying is that being a police officer is already protected because that's like the

[6:29:08] whole point.

[6:29:09] They're given extra rights so that they can protect us.

[6:29:12] So there's no reason why they need to be protected above and beyond in this way. Thank you for your time

[6:29:25] Release Sachiano

[6:29:26] Kevin

[6:29:31] McKenna.

[6:29:36] All right. I'll take a motion to close the hearing

[6:29:41] That's

[6:29:45] I don't understand.

[6:29:50] Vaccinated

[6:29:52] My name is Kevin McKenna. I am a psiasi resident and I am the founder of town of Oyster Bay, New

[6:30:00] News and now town of Hemstead News on Facebook. Social media has changed all your worlds.

[6:30:12] There will be a major disruption this November in the election. And I am talking about the bill.

[6:30:22] The world, the world, this afternoon, on my way back here.

[6:30:27] here earlier. Josh, you finally made it to the big time.

[6:30:34] You still have the Fox News

[6:30:37] sit down on your Facebook page from four years ago as your top post to feed your ego.

[6:30:46] You are my legislator. I thank you very much for bringing national attention

[6:30:55] To NASA County, you made CNN this afternoon.

[6:31:01] I want to know what legislative dropper has been promised.

[6:31:07] To sit next to you.

[6:31:12] I want to know what he has been promised to sit next to you.

[6:31:17] And, you know, earlier when the discussion was going around about the masks.

[6:31:23] I looked up there and I said,

[6:31:24] You could look at the individual and you could decide which party they're in as to whether or not they have a mask on.

[6:31:34] How sad is that that masks have been become so political?

[6:31:41] Getting back to Mr. Lafazan, you are an outright fraud.

[6:31:47] That's not a curse word, and if I were you between now and November,

[6:31:54] I would change this law to make the legislators a protected class because you're going to need it.

[6:32:08] Now, this comes down to money. This is all about money. Not as the lady earlier said about money.

[6:32:17] This is about political donations from the PBA.

[6:32:23] Now, my father was a New York City police officer, my cousin was a Suffolk County Lieutenant.

[6:32:30] My nephew right now is on the NYPD.

[6:32:34] I actually went to Farmingdale University back in 1975 for a few weeks, I thought I was

[6:32:39] going to become a police officer, and I'm glad that I didn't.

[6:32:44] I have the utmost respect for the police officers.

[6:32:48] What? And I would love to know how many of these police officers here is about 40 of them in here right now.

[6:32:57] Now there was about a hundred earlier. What are you expecting here?

[6:33:01] NASA County is in need of financial resources. What are they doing standing around here?

[6:33:10] Well, what's going to happen here? Is that a show of force? What's this all about?

[6:33:18] What's it all about?

[6:33:21] Why the police presence? Why did you? Why did you delay this meeting, Mr. Nikolele?

[6:33:28] In order to continually give awards, maybe justifiably so. But on a day like this, when you have

[6:33:39] How many residents here that took off from their days of work to come here to purposely, you pull day,

[6:33:47] I'm not going to mention any names, but you pull day, let's hope they leave political stunt.

[6:33:56] Now, as I said, as I said, if anybody wants to give me that time, I have a lot more, but probably don't want to.

[6:34:06] Mr. Nicolello, I have town of ways to be news on Facebook.

[6:34:10] I am fed a lot of information about you.

[6:34:14] You are the one who is putting that inexperienced.

[6:34:19] He's never held the job in his life.

[6:34:22] You are the one who's putting him up to these political stunts and is a matter of fact when

[6:34:27] You gave him the still-well project to run with, in Saasit, you were promised a judge ship

[6:34:34] one year from now if he pulled off the still-well fields project.

[6:34:39] But he didn't pull it off because we exposed the job, the job, the job, the sand is.

[6:34:45] He is an outright fraud and Mr. Drucker.

[6:34:48] You have destroyed your political career, even if you, even if you say no to this and

[6:34:55] closing and closing.

[6:34:57] This stunt is all about you guys voting, yes.

[6:35:00] So that you force Laura Karen.

[6:35:03] You want to test Laura Karen.

[6:35:05] You want to force her to veto this bill

[6:35:08] so that she destroys her election.

[6:35:11] This is all about politics and you are discreet.

[6:35:14] That looks like something.

[6:35:20] I'd like to have the motion.

[6:35:23] Motion to close the hearing.

[6:35:25] Move her, move her, move her, move second.

[6:35:26] If I let her walk, move her, close her in the hearing.

[6:35:33] You're going to be a judge?

[6:36:10] Thank you so much for joining me on this.

[6:36:13] I'll definitely respond to what I was talking about.

[6:36:17] Thank you.

[6:36:19] Thank you.

[6:36:21] Thank you.

[6:36:21] Did you like that?

[6:36:22] Thank you.

[6:36:23] Thank you.

[6:36:27] Thank you.

[6:36:28] Thank you.

[6:36:31] Thank you.

[6:36:32] Thank you.

[6:36:33] Thank you.

[6:36:35] Thank you.

[6:36:39] Thank you.

[7:08:36] We are back into the chambers,

[7:08:43] the above myself.

[7:10:18] Ladies and gentlemen,

[7:10:20] ladies and gentlemen,

[7:10:25] we are going to

[7:10:25] resume the meeting now.

[7:10:49] At this, we are back in session, item five, say vote on a local law to amend the

[7:10:57] National County Ministry of Code and Relations to amend the National County Human Rights Law to

[7:11:03] preclude discrimination against the first responders. Let this little officer make that motion,

[7:11:08] It's seconded by Deputy Presiding Officer Co-Pell, right?

[7:11:12] The motion and the item is now before the legislature.

[7:11:18] Any debate that the discussion?

[7:11:24] If I may,

[7:11:27] I'm not too sure that I didn't want to curtail the being of the discussion

[7:11:32] from any of our members, but I did want to have the consultation with my caucus to move the

[7:11:40] table the item for today.

[7:11:41] It seems like to me that we've heard from a substantial proportion of the public on this particular issue.

[7:11:51] I should say substantial proportion of the folks we heard from today are have made it very strong and persuasive argument to not proceed to go forward.

[7:12:02] I will say that the National County Police Department, as such, any police department, excuse me a second.

[7:12:10] That's what County Police Department, as such in any police department, has a very difficult job.

[7:12:16] I think the measure that's before us today, with what we have heard today from the public,

[7:12:22] I believe makes their job even harder.

[7:12:25] Part of what makes their job easier to deal with is when you have the public that has the same level as trust and respect,

[7:12:39] admiration for the officers, and I believe that that level of trust and respect is there,

[7:12:45] but it's compounded and more difficult to get that level of trust when you have the public

[7:12:55] feel in opposition to this bill that is before us today.

[7:13:01] I think with hearing from so many people, they had to be almost close to 100, 100 slips,

[7:13:06] or hundreds, maybe a hundred, maybe a little less than a hundred slips today.

[7:13:10] I couldn't in good conscience go forward with any bill, not just this bill, but any

[7:13:15] bill where we heard from so many people.

[7:13:19] And it's now almost eight o'clock at night.

[7:13:23] And I have to think that there were more people that could make it down here on a Monday

[7:13:29] in the middle of the summer they would have came.

[7:13:32] I

[7:13:38] feel that at this point to go forward with any bill, I expressed my concerns obviously in my extension vote several weeks ago.

[7:13:49] I plan to vote no today if the table does not happen, but in spirit of ensuring the public has more opportunity, more hearings, more transparency on this bill.

[7:14:02] I truly believe we should move to table it.

[7:14:05] I didn't want to move to table if there was going to be some debate or discussion,

[7:14:10] because I don't want to curtail anyone's ability to be able to voice their concerns or their opinion.

[7:14:16] But if there is no debate or discussion on no further comments,

[7:14:21] I'd like to put forward a motion to table the item for today.

[7:14:24] I don't know if the table is non-developable. We need a second.

[7:14:28] Seconded by, let's say, the Reggie Witten.

[7:14:32] All of them, well, no, I mean, it's not available,

[7:14:34] but we could talk afterwards. But all of them,

[7:14:37] all of them, if I were saying aye.

[7:14:40] I was opposed, nay.

[7:14:41] And I'm at the same height.

[7:14:43] Okay. The vote fails by vote.

[7:14:48] The first of the table fails by vote of nine to nine to eight,

[7:14:52] with one attention. I just did. Nine. Nine votes in favor of tabling from all from the minority.

[7:15:00] Eight votes, a guest table, oh, eight, and I gave an extra vote.

[7:15:08] Eight votes from the minority in favor of table. Eight votes, nine votes from the majority, a guest table, and one abstains, which is legislative for it. Okay, so the item is still before us. Any debated discussion on the item?

[7:15:27] Josh, you want to say something?

[7:15:30] Let's just say this, uh, Lafacy.

[7:15:36] Let me go for us, Lafacy.

[7:15:39] Thank you, Presiding Officer.

[7:15:41] Uh, and thank you to all who came down today.

[7:15:43] Uh, we've had a very lengthy hearing, so I'll be very brief.

[7:15:46] Uh, I sponsored this bill, and I support this bill.

[7:15:48] My bill takes behavior, which is already criminal,

[7:15:51] and has been for many years,

[7:15:52] and simply adds a civil component under the human rights law,

[7:15:55] of which first responders were made a protected class in 2019.

[7:15:59] Since police had been authorized by the state to sue for negligence

[7:16:02] an intentional harm since 1996, this should not alarm anyone.

[7:16:07] Moreover, the crime of harassment and menacing have been on the books for a long time,

[7:16:11] yet we have not seen them use to suppress freedom of speech like the critics of this

[7:16:15] bill alleged.

[7:16:16] Why do we think they will have that effect now?

[7:16:18] And why shouldn't we trust the American judicial system to apply these laws in a constitutional

[7:16:23] manner civilly just as they have been applied in a criminal context?

[7:16:27] There is no justification for violence against first responders, and these bills will

[7:16:31] for the protections in law to predict Nassau County's first responders as they protect us.

[7:16:36] I urge you, yes, vote. Thank you.

[7:16:43] All right, let's set a truck. Okay, we have other legislators.

[7:16:49] All right, okay, I understand, let us,

[7:16:54] I just note for the record that Legislative

[7:16:57] Lafazan sat and listened to every comment today, and I think you should have the same

[7:17:02] courtesy for him.

[7:17:04] Let's say a trucker.

[7:17:07] Thank you for presiding officer.

[7:17:10] The past few weeks have probably been the most

[7:17:13] difficult time I've experienced over the five years,

[7:17:15] but my five years is a legislative,

[7:17:17] well, personally, and as a democratic caucus member.

[7:17:20] And I just want everyone to know,

[7:17:21] the remarks that I have prepared here

[7:17:23] and my decision on how I'm going to vote

[7:17:26] was made before today.

[7:17:28] It was made over the last few days and over the weekend.

[7:17:31] I had made my decision, and I wrote out remarks,

[7:17:33] and they have not changed based on comments today.

[7:17:38] So, you know, when I first agreed to co-sponsor legislator Lafazane's bill almost two months ago,

[7:17:44] you know, I did it, and I'll be honest, I'm going to take a mere copy here.

[7:17:47] I did it at a reflexive action because I support Josh and at the time, I thought if there was any issues with the bill, it would be brought up.

[7:18:01] in our caucus meetings, it would be brought up in our meetings that we have,

[7:18:05] other sessions that we would have before it would ever make its way onto the calendar.

[7:18:11] Apparently that didn't happen.

[7:18:13] And I'm as guilty as the rest of us on the caucus, because we were asleep with the wheel when it comes to that.

[7:18:17] We should have paid more attention to this bill.

[7:18:19] And when it first came to light on Sunday night before two weeks ago, Monday's session,

[7:18:26] when it was only appearing before the rules committee, which I'm not a member of.

[7:18:33] Well, I wasn't a member of those committees, I also wasn't at the session, but the point is

[7:18:37] is that the controversy and the issues that arose came up very late when it was addressed

[7:18:45] with the majority that we had issues and we wanted to amend the bill because there were

[7:18:51] objectionable parts to it, the majority was not receptive to those suggestions.

[7:18:57] You know, so I didn't contemplate when I first agreed to co-sponsored the bill, the unintended consequences of the bill,

[7:19:04] for a perspective other than as a lawyer and in reliance on illegal footing that the bill stood upon has presented to me.

[7:19:11] But it has been made abundantly clear to me before today that those unintended consequences are the fear and concern by law-abiding citizens

[7:19:20] that certain language in the bill will threaten their constitutional rights to peacefully march, demonstrate, and speak freely.

[7:19:29] After hours and days of careful and diligent deliberation, I have come to the conclusion that the bill is fatally flawed.

[7:19:38] And as a result,

[7:19:42] and as a result, I am withdrawing my support for this bill, and I will be voting against it.

[7:19:50] Let me

[7:19:56] be clear, let me be clear, let me be clear.

[7:19:58] I will always remain firmly committed

[7:20:00] to protecting our first responders at every turn

[7:20:03] because they're the ones that are the reason

[7:20:04] why we live in the safest county in America.

[7:20:08] But as a lawyer who's clientele for more than 35 years

[7:20:12] are the marginalized underrepresented

[7:20:14] in minority communities, I am always concerned

[7:20:17] and protective of the democratic principles

[7:20:20] that this county was founded upon.

[7:20:22] For these reasons, I, again, I will withdraw my support for legislative

[7:20:29] applicants bill, and I will vote no, with the emphatic plea, well, just I will vote no.

[7:20:35] Thank you, Bruno.

[7:20:38] I just said it anyway.

[7:20:45] Today's been a long day.

[7:20:48] I had made my decision last week what I was going to do, and it really came down to

[7:20:58] the words irrebutable and the menacing and harassing.

[7:21:05] I couldn't get past that, and I just believed that we have to do whatever we can to protect the police.

[7:21:15] In whatever ways makes sense.

[7:21:18] However, this is not the right bill.

[7:21:21] I will be voting now.

[7:21:25] But I want to say one more thing.

[7:21:27] And I really appreciated Ells remarks,

[7:21:33] I truly believe that everyone's intentions were good,

[7:21:37] and that no one is evil or, and I think when we start banding words like that around, we just keep the divide going.

[7:21:47] And we've got to figure out a way to come back together. We really, really do.

[7:21:53] We have to talk to one another, hold on, I'm talking, please.

[7:22:00] We need to figure that out.

[7:22:03] I don't have the solution, but I hope to be part of the solution.

[7:22:09] I would welcome any conversations where perhaps we could figure that out, because it's not

[7:22:16] an us versus them situation.

[7:22:19] We all live here in Nessau County.

[7:22:21] We have to figure out a way to not make enemies of people who might disagree with us about one thing one way or the other, or maybe don't see things the way that we do because of our lived experience.

[7:22:37] We have to figure out a way to talk to one another so that we can really live as a society

[7:22:49] with respect and civility.

[7:22:54] And I certainly have respect for you, Josh, you know that.

[7:22:59] And I know that your intentions were always good.

[7:23:04] And so I just want to I think it's important to say that I know you've really been under the under the gun today

[7:23:12] But

[7:23:13] All right, this is what I'm talking about

[7:23:16] This is what I'm talking about

[7:23:21] Okay

[7:23:22] We have to figure out

[7:23:25] We have to figure this out. That's that's it. Thank you

[7:23:34] Let's say it the red you went, then let's say the vinyl

[7:23:39] Okay, I'm in the same mindset as Deborah Mulay, and I have to say that when I have been talking to the police, there is a need for this type of legislation.

[7:23:51] If otherwise we wouldn't have conflated it. There's a lot going on with our police. Do they protest when things are wrong? They don't.

[7:24:00] Do they come and talk to their elected officials? They do.

[7:24:03] I know a number of things that are criminal acts that have happened that have not been pursued.

[7:24:10] In my opinion, what this law is doing is saying that you can protest.

[7:24:15] You can have a peaceful protest.

[7:24:17] This isn't really designed to address what happened in NASA County.

[7:24:21] This is designed for a January 6th situation, where the police were really attacked and nothing happened.

[7:24:30] And it's still not happening, and yes it's down in DC, but that is what the mindset could be now.

[7:24:38] The way that I'm looking at this is this is bringing it together.

[7:24:42] I want everyone in this room to feel respected by NASA County.

[7:24:45] I really do.

[7:24:46] I want you to feel safe.

[7:24:47] I want you to be able to express your views.

[7:24:50] But in a decorum of a way that you can express your views to someone yet not,

[7:24:57] Overstep, which is basically what this law is saying.

[7:25:01] I trust the attorney who wrote this bill.

[7:25:05] I know that.

[7:25:06] Mr. Kennedy, would you...

[7:25:08] Mr. McKenna.

[7:25:09] Mr. McKenna.

[7:25:10] I trust McKenna.

[7:25:13] Mr. McKenna.

[7:25:13] Excuse me.

[7:25:14] Don't interrupt me, because I didn't interrupt you.

[7:25:18] McKenna.

[7:25:19] Mr. McKenna.

[7:25:19] Number one.

[7:25:20] The police are already given this right.

[7:25:24] It's been since 2018.

[7:25:26] I don't see any cases and I would if I'm proven wrong that they're not entitled to this status

[7:25:33] Then you know, I don't know why anyone hasn't done anything about this. You know, there's some civil right lawyers and you know

[7:25:39] Why aren't they addressing the fact that they don't deserve this status?

[7:25:43] We gave it to them. We gave it to veterans. If you want to discuss that you can discuss that as well. Maybe they're not

[7:25:49] Maybe they're not entitled to it. Excuse me. Can you please stop

[7:25:54] or else I'm gonna, you know, I can't finish my thought.

[7:25:58] No, well, if you want to yell at them, God.

[7:26:01] The bottom line is, I believe that the police officers

[7:26:05] already have this status, which we voted on 19 to nothing

[7:26:09] in 2018, okay?

[7:26:11] It was never brought up.

[7:26:13] If you want to diffuse it or review it, go right ahead.

[7:26:16] But in the last three years almost,

[7:26:18] it has not been the case.

[7:26:20] Number two, I know that it sounds as if a simple gesture could cause a problem.

[7:26:29] The real truth is there is a standard.

[7:26:31] There is a threshold that you have to reach before you're going to have a decision made.

[7:26:39] I think that those protections, number one, the police can already sue.

[7:26:43] Ever since 1986 they have that right.

[7:26:45] This law does not do that much to be completely honest with you.

[7:26:49] It already has everything at this point. Why did we go through this? Maybe that's a question

[7:26:56] but I am going to say something right now in my mind and I have given this so much thought and I'm probably going to get in trouble once again

[7:27:04] I'm probably going to get in trouble with my party. Whatever else, but I am up here because I believe in my heart that this

[7:27:12] Bill sends a message that I think a lot of people believe in that you know it will come up on 20 years on 9-11

[7:27:19] I was first responders, and it's not only police,

[7:27:22] it's a lot of volunteers that are having problems.

[7:27:24] They go into your house, they pull people out with COVID.

[7:27:27] I mean, I saw what happened during COVID.

[7:27:29] I saw what these people did.

[7:27:32] I did, and you know what?

[7:27:34] The bottom line is, I think, that they deserve respect.

[7:27:39] And although it's a, yes, police could pay, but this is all

[7:27:43] first responders.

[7:27:44] So there are many volunteers that are having issues.

[7:27:47] So, in my opinion, I think that they deserve our protection and our respect and I'm voting us.

[7:27:56] I just said it by now.

[7:28:05] Thank you.

[7:28:06] Thank you presiding officer.

[7:28:08] Thank you presiding officer.

[7:28:16] Presiding officer.

[7:28:17] Thank you for the floor.

[7:28:19] So, a lot was said today.

[7:28:22] And a lot of issues bubbled up beyond my earlier comments on this issue during the committee session.

[7:28:32] I stand opposed to this bill as I did during the session for the reasons I spoke on earlier.

[7:28:43] But I think some of the more media issues are the ones that you've heard today,

[7:28:50] and you've heard it through the voices of those that are agreed by this bill.

[7:28:56] We've heard it from the voices of the people who are painted by this bill to the extent that we could hear the raw emotions in their voice.

[7:29:07] So today I sit here very heavy-hearted as your colleague, who is a member of a class that has been historically discriminated against with unchangeable personal characteristics.

[7:29:22] And I ask you, how in God's name can we bring a bill to this floor, there would allow

[7:29:31] even members from that protected class to not have the ability to disprove discrimination

[7:29:40] against police officers.

[7:29:42] While I respect police officers and

[7:29:49] I've shared that not only that I respect police officers

[7:29:55] that I even aspired at one point to be a police officer and taken a call.

[7:30:01] More than one, corrections national county, west justice, police department. And I passed those exams,

[7:30:10] but as they say, you plan in God's lives, so my plan ended up differently. So I'm seated here today, and I'm seated here today. Just a staunch that we would look to a road what trust our community have as with police in this moment.

[7:30:29] This bill would take all of the efforts that we've all looked to create, to build relationships

[7:30:41] between our constituency and the police, where would the trust be at this point when

[7:30:50] know that they could be sued, sued, just like, or, or I should say, be susceptible to

[7:31:00] this law, just like the young woman in Utah that was talked about earlier, the young woman

[7:31:06] who simply ripped of blue lines, matter, sign, and stop by, who is now facing criminal charges.

[7:31:14] This bill is, I believe, is very dangerous.

[7:31:18] It can have fiscal impacts to those who could hardly afford it.

[7:31:23] Those who want to stand up for their rights.

[7:31:26] Those who would be afforded in attorney in a criminal court,

[7:31:31] but not in a civil court.

[7:31:33] It will have a chilling effect.

[7:31:35] Most certainly, it will have a chilling effect.

[7:31:39] And as stated, that effect could have resulted in

[7:31:48] The murderer, Derek Shovey, going free,

[7:31:52] if someone had felt fearful to capture George Floyd's murder by video.

[7:32:03] I don't have a lot of new material to talk about today.

[7:32:08] Because the people have spoken.

[7:32:12] But what I do, what I have new to add to this discussion,

[7:32:15] because I don't want to belabor the point,

[7:32:19] but if the real intent of this law

[7:32:22] is to protect the first responders in the course of their duties.

[7:32:28] Then why?

[7:32:29] Tell me why.

[7:32:32] This bill not only provides for the current,

[7:32:37] members of our first responders' forces,

[7:32:41] but also those that were in prior service.

[7:32:45] In prior service,

[7:32:47] because I'm of the minds that the people of certain professions

[7:32:53] or any professions should not be able to have these type of protections.

[7:32:58] You know why?

[7:32:59] Because they can hang up their uniform.

[7:33:02] I can't hang up my black skin.

[7:33:07] But to sit here today and say that it is all right.

[7:33:12] And then we're going to do this and give protections

[7:33:15] to those who are no longer in service that are prior members of service

[7:33:21] is really a personal upfront.

[7:33:23] Because I can't retire my black skin, they can't retire their disabilities, and it's not right.

[7:33:30] Not a profession.

[7:33:32] We made them a state once.

[7:33:34] This body made them a state once.

[7:33:36] This is an opportunity to write a wrong.

[7:33:40] It's an opportunity to write a wrong.

[7:33:43] And in the words of Martin Luther King,

[7:33:47] it is always...

[7:33:49] What is the time he's hiding down?

[7:33:51] It's always a good thing.

[7:33:54] It's always a good time to do the right thing.

[7:33:57] It's always a good time to do a good thing.

[7:34:03] This is wrong.

[7:34:04] It's wrong.

[7:34:05] I tell you it's wrong.

[7:34:06] We're going to turn back.

[7:34:08] We're going to turn back the hands of time here in National County.

[7:34:12] Why?

[7:34:13] The police already granted extensive

[7:34:18] enhancements of criminal justice protections. They're protected. I wouldn't

[7:34:25] sit here today and vote against this bill if I didn't think they were. Because I am

[7:34:31] also charged to make sure that they are protected. That's part of my role. Just as

[7:34:37] it is, my role to make sure that the people that are here are protected. Those young

[7:34:43] people that had the guts to stand before this might

[7:34:47] and tell you from their own hearts.

[7:34:50] How they feel about this bill.

[7:34:51] Please,

[7:34:54] we still have time.

[7:34:55] We can evolve on this issue right here right now.

[7:34:59] I please, I employ you

[7:35:05] not today and not in our national county.

[7:35:14] I just wanted to clear up at least one misconception.

[7:35:17] It's said repeatedly that this bill criminalizes condom.

[7:35:22] There's not a criminal bill that applies civil sex, but it does do, is take by and

[7:35:29] much criminal acts as a predicate for that civil liability, harassment, menacing, assault.

[7:35:37] These are criminal acts under the New York State penal law, with respect to menacing

[7:35:41] and assault in a police officer, with respect to a menacing and a police officer, it's a

[7:35:47] What you expect to harass, but it's a misdemeanor, again, to establish a violation of the statute, you had to prove one of these crimes.

[7:35:59] You know, we sat and listened for five hours, it just shows you where the courtesy lies in this room, right?

[7:36:08] The law also creates civil liability for injuring a police officer.

[7:36:18] Well, New York State law already creates that right.

[7:36:22] There was a right on the New York State law for intentional and negligent acts against the police officer.

[7:36:31] So anyway,

[7:36:35] obviously some people in this audience don't want to hear what I'm rushing.

[7:36:38] And I was, but that isn't a nutshell, it.

[7:36:40] We have to protect our police officers from harassing.

[7:36:45] We have to protect our police officers from menacing.

[7:36:48] We have to protect our police officers from assault and being injured.

[7:36:52] And I'm going to vote, yes, on this local law.

[7:36:55] Legislative Ford.

[7:37:07] The week this in an argument is when you can't listen to somebody else

[7:37:10] while trying to shout them down.

[7:37:12] Now, yes, try to shout us down.

[7:37:13] We listen to five hours.

[7:37:14] Every word you said, five hours.

[7:37:18] All right, so that I mean, it just shows you what this whole, okay, all right, thanks.

[7:37:25] Let's set a forward.

[7:37:26] You know, this legislation is not only for our police officers, but also for the first respond,

[7:37:33] as well as firefighters and public safety officers.

[7:37:37] You know, we all, I listen to all of you, you know, and all the comments,

[7:37:42] And I know that your concerns and your fears, you know, basically are justified.

[7:37:48] But I think sometimes when we look at this, it would be based on when we talked about like the bad police officers who always stepped their bounds.

[7:37:57] But I think, especially here in Nasser County, that the vast majority of a Nasser County officers are good police officers.

[7:38:05] They want to work with the community. They're not looking to make trouble.

[7:38:08] they're not looking to go out and sue residents because she looked at somebody, you know,

[7:38:13] crazy or something like that. I think that they're well-intentioned in their desire to serve

[7:38:19] the public and regardless of the neighborhoods. I know that we're changing worlds and we're

[7:38:25] all looking at different things that are happening. But I think that this legislation will maybe

[7:38:31] not 100% perfect, but it is something that reaffirms what is already state law and, you know,

[7:38:38] Now, but that being said, with that police reform plan, we have required that Commissioner

[7:38:46] Rida report back to us on a six-month basis to the full legislature.

[7:38:51] The various benchmarks, and this is going to be one of the benchmarks that we're going to

[7:38:55] look at.

[7:38:56] To see whether or not there are some at times, if police officers are exercising their

[7:39:02] right under this legislation to sue residents and why, then we're going to look at that

[7:39:07] data, and we're going to monitor it, and then if we find that it is something that has been

[7:39:12] very detrimental to our residents here, then we will definitely take a look at this again.

[7:39:19] Thank you.

[7:39:21] Stand up, Bernbaum.

[7:39:26] Let's stand up, Bernbaum.

[7:39:26] Good evening, everybody.

[7:39:28] I want to thank you all for taking the time to be here today.

[7:39:31] I came to this hearing with open ears.

[7:39:35] I wanted to listen to what our residents had to tell us.

[7:39:39] And when I first read this bill, it sounded like a way to protect our police, and I have the utmost respect for people in uniform.

[7:39:49] Everybody who does their job first responders and absolutely police department.

[7:39:55] But I realized there were problems with this bill when our caucus got together, and there were many situations brought up that I hadn't thought about on first reading of the bill.

[7:40:08] Listening to everybody here today, each with different backgrounds, different age groups,

[7:40:15] different cultures, I heard all of you, and I have come to a decision.

[7:40:23] And I am going to vote against this imperfect bill.

[7:40:34] Thank you.

[7:40:35] Thank you for presiding our professor for allowing me to speak.

[7:40:37] Good evening, everyone.

[7:40:38] And I'd like to thank everyone for their patience, their attention, their respect.

[7:40:45] And I think if we're coming down here today, I'd like to thank all my colleagues.

[7:40:49] I will be voting no against this bill.

[7:40:53] I am very sad in that respected black professional such as legislative by-now has to plead

[7:41:03] with such emotion and remorseness in her voice.

[7:41:07] and yet it falls upon deaf ears upon her, with her own colleagues, that is shameful.

[7:41:14] She is not speaking out of convenience, she is speaking out of survival, and to have her sense of urgency

[7:41:24] overlooked by her colleagues is disgusting.

[7:41:31] Secondly, any lawyer, law school 101, should be voting against this bill.

[7:41:40] I know you have aspirations in the courts. Good luck in the course of this on your record, okay?

[7:41:51] You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you legislated religious witness in the mention that is all about January 6.

[7:41:57] Well, on January 7th, his body, after January 6th, held a hearing regarding the governor's police reform.

[7:42:05] Bill, and that committee was had to buy your truly legislative in East Fort.

[7:42:11] And there was now one mention of what happened on January 6th that day before, by legislative

[7:42:16] fort, in which blue-wise matter flags were being used to assault capital police officers.

[7:42:27] Where was the cry for a respectful war enforcement since then?

[7:42:31] This has nothing to do about January 6th.

[7:42:33] This has everything.

[7:42:35] This has everything, this has everything to do with May 25th, May 25th, and which brave people

[7:42:51] stood up to corrupt killing police officers and told them they could not do that.

[7:42:57] They had such bravery and conviction.

[7:43:00] Now you are promoting a piece of legislation that would silence that and would make everyone think that oh wait

[7:43:06] I can't speak up because I might be suit-cibly

[7:43:09] No, this has a very silencing and true-and-effect upon our democracy

[7:43:14] This will turn Nasser County to Putin's rushes under Putin

[7:43:21] truly under Vladimir Putin

[7:43:23] in Russia, there's no difference, which is what you're proposing now and what we see there.

[7:43:28] It is a whole mark of our democracy that we have freedom of speech and there are good parts

[7:43:35] of that and bad parts of that. And you are choosing today to silence what makes us Americans,

[7:43:45] Patriots to see something wrong and to say something

[7:43:50] How dare you whoa

[7:43:52] We just cross the line there. I'm gonna ask you please refrain from making comments like that

[7:44:00] You have to leave. I cannot stand here in good consciousness and allow anyone up here to be called a Nazi

[7:44:08] Please I don't know where it came from but we're not gonna stand for that

[7:44:13] Okay, so, sir, please,

[7:44:17] and sorry to me for interrupting me.

[7:44:19] Thank you.

[7:44:21] Don't interrupt me again.

[7:44:25] As I was saying, this has a chilling effect upon our hallmark

[7:44:29] of what makes our democracy special.

[7:44:33] For any attorney, Mr. Faradie.

[7:44:36] Mr. McKevit, right? Who else?

[7:44:38] Four, I'm sorry, roads.

[7:44:40] All right? Who else?

[7:44:41] Ms. Gorilla? You're going to be a judge soon?

[7:44:43] Right?

[7:44:43] safer and you have turning to do this. We'll require you to go to law school again.

[7:44:50] Thank you very much.

[7:45:00] Mind you, the Brennan institution and other institutions law firms are waiting to sue NASO County based on this legislation.

[7:45:09] Let us let a road. Thank you.

[7:45:12] I would ask individuals to simply do a Google search. NASO police officers assaulted.

[7:45:24] You will see NASO County correction officer assaulted by a prisoner's suffered a broken nose.

[7:45:35] July 19th, this year, Man Assault's police officer at Station House in Baltimore,

[7:45:45] July 11th, 2021.

[7:45:48] Nassault police officers injured during two separate weekend arrests in Belmont,

[7:45:57] February 25th, 2021, homeless woman punches cop.

[7:46:07] This is a, and by the way, when we were talking, by the, sir, you interrupting me is the same as you were up to interrupting legislator salages.

[7:46:21] I listen to you speak,

[7:46:24] right?

[7:46:25] When we were talking about the protests, again, when police officers tried to stop protestors from going on to the Metabird Parkway

[7:46:35] to police officers were injured.

[7:46:39] One was punched in the face.

[7:46:43] The second one, a broken ankle requiring surgery.

[7:46:47] These are not isolated incidents.

[7:46:55] Police officers, police officers,

[7:47:01] you had a volunteer firefighter who was shot,

[7:47:04] responding to an alarm and bell more.

[7:47:06] Probably I would say eight or nine years ago.

[7:47:08] These things, these things are not isolated incidents.

[7:47:16] And the bottom line is whether it's a private citizen, whether it's a first responder, we

[7:47:23] do not want anyone to be harassed, menace, assaulted, or injured, particularly not our police officers.

[7:47:35] This is not about trying to suppress anyone's free speech.

[7:47:40] This is about trying to ensure the safety of the people who are there to protect our safety.

[7:47:48] That's why I'll be supporting the legislation.

[7:47:57] Legislative.

[7:47:58] Legislative.

[7:48:15] Minority leader Abrams.

[7:48:27] Minority leader Abrams.

[7:48:30] Minority leader Abrams.

[7:49:10] I'm listening to you and it sounds good to me if you can get me to be a judge of it.

[7:49:15] Can you work it out for me?

[7:49:17] I've been here a long time, my friend.

[7:49:24] All right.

[7:49:26] Ladies and gentlemen, no further debate of discussion.

[7:49:31] All those in favour of this item signify by saying aye.

[7:49:35] Hi, those are posed.

[7:49:39] So, passes.

[7:49:41] We'll call.

[7:49:42] I think we have 12.

[7:49:49] All right.

[7:49:49] So, we have 12 in favor.

[7:49:51] Six against.

[7:49:52] So, it passes.

[7:49:53] It's the passes.

[7:49:54] All

[7:50:24] right.

[7:50:24] We're going to go right into the finance committee.

[7:50:27] Members, you're all here.

[7:50:30] What do you have?

[7:50:32] What do you have?

[7:50:32] I'm sorry.

[7:50:33] We're going to do safety first.

[7:50:35] All

[7:50:48] right.

[7:50:48] Mr. Pulitzer, would you just call the roll on finance, please?

[7:50:52] Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[7:50:55] The Finance Committee roll call.

[7:50:57] Let's just say Joshua after that.

[7:50:59] Mr. Pulitzer, I'm sorry.

[7:51:02] But I think we already clarified the vote, but I believe she was trying to figure out the vote.

[7:51:07] It was 12. It was 12 in the affirmative. It was six in the negative.

[7:51:14] The two in the affirmative from the Democratic side were legislators.

[7:51:17] because the rich in electricity is lap is in supporting the 10 vote of Republican majority.

[7:51:25] Okay, that's it.

[7:51:26] I'm going to put the legislature meeting at the recess.

[7:51:35] All right, we're going to move on to the finance committee.

[7:52:00] Mr. Pulitzer.

[7:52:01] Mr. Pulitzer, go ahead, please.

[7:52:03] call the roll. Thank you,

[7:52:06] sir. Roll call, finance committee. Legislative Joshua Lafazan. Legislature

[7:52:14] Arnold Drucker.

[7:52:18] Legislative Drucker. Sir, ranking member Ellen Burmbaum. Legislative

[7:52:27] Rosemary Walker. Legislative Thomas McKevitt. Vice Chairman Vincent Muscarella.

[7:52:36] Chairman

[7:52:37] Thank you. We have a bunch of items which I'm going to call all together. Actually, we are going to have to make a motion to untay the law of these items.

[7:52:49] Those items are all authorizing compromise and settlement of various search of our tax search of our claims. Those numbers are 282 of 261, 262, 211.

[7:53:05] Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[7:53:08] Not to 82?

[7:53:22] OK.

[7:53:23] A scratch to 82.

[7:53:24] So we'll start at 61 of 21, 62, 63, 73, 74, 75.

[7:53:33] Mr. McKenna, hold on.

[7:53:35] Mr. McKenna, this is your last warning.

[7:53:38] So last warning.

[7:53:39] If you keep it up, we're going to have your remote.

[7:53:43] We're going to remove you from the building.

[7:53:44] And I understand that somebody just told me that so.

[7:53:51] 75,

[7:53:59] 76, 77, 78, 79 of 21 motion to untable is made by his walker seconded by Mr.

[7:54:13] the trucker, all those in favor of untabling those matters, please say aye, any opposed?

[7:54:21] Okay. Thank you. All right. Now, on the item, the same items, do we have any debate

[7:54:33] or discussion on those items? Hearing none, all those in favor of all those items,

[7:54:43] please

[7:54:43] not only opposed, those items all pass unanimously, a motion to adjourn finance is made by

[7:54:52] Mr. Muscarella, seconded by Mr. Lafazan, all those in favor of adjourning finance.

[7:54:58] Please say aye.

[7:55:00] Any opposed? Where adjourn? Thank you.

[7:55:22] Okay. Mike, could you please call the roll for the rules committee?

[7:55:25] Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[7:55:28] The roll call for the rules committee as it follows.

[7:55:32] legislative seal of vino.

[7:55:37] Okay, legislative dealer at the Ritchie Whitton, ranking member Kavanaugh

[7:55:42] Abraham, legislative Laura Schaffer, legislative Stephen Rhodes, vice chairman Howard Copal,

[7:55:50] chairman Richard Nicollello. Yes, we have a corps. Okay, thank you. We have a number of items.

[7:55:56] It just moments ago went through the finance committee, so we're going to call all those together.

[7:56:01] There's basically the tax-circuit sediments, include I am 61, 62, 63, 73,

[7:56:15] 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79,

[7:56:25] motion by Deputy President of the Corfell second by minority leader Abraham's and he debated

[7:56:31] the discussion on these items. Hearing none, all favourers, the second favourers say aye.

[7:56:38] Aye, those opposed, they pass unanimously. Okay, we have two items, we'll actually recall this

[7:56:45] For example, the 261-269-2021 is a resolution authorized in the county executive to execute an interminiscible agreement with the Leatic Beach Fire District in relation to procuring a chest compression device and related items.

[7:56:59] That is moved by a legislator's shape for a seconded by a legislator, the Reggie Witton, and he debated the discussion on that item.

[7:57:08] Hearing none, all in favor, signify by saying aye.

[7:57:11] I, those opposed, carries unanimously.

[7:57:15] I'm 282.

[7:57:16] It's a resolution authorised in the county executive to execute an amendment to an

[7:57:20] intemunisable agreement with the Nessaur County soil and water conservation district

[7:57:24] in relation to providing conservation services and assistance with the septic system

[7:57:29] placement program.

[7:57:32] Motion by, let's see later.

[7:57:34] The Richie Witton, the second of our letters to the Schaefer, and he debated the discussion

[7:57:39] on this island.

[7:57:41] If you're none, all of our favorite signify by saying aye, aye, those opposed carries unanimously.

[7:57:49] Now, we have several contracts on the Rules Committee agenda that

[7:57:55] include the following.

[7:57:57] E-17, E-123, E-17, I thank you.

[7:58:02] B1-23, B1-24, U-3 of 2021, these are a resolution to authorize the county executive to execute personal services agreements between the county and Leander Associates, KPMG LLP, M&G Engineering, PC, and Susan Ryan, DBA, Vera, Cousin, moved by Deputy Pesognosical Pell, seconded by Minorly Abraham's, before I call those, I'm going to ask for a motion.

[7:58:32] To untable E1171-2020, the resolution of the rise in the county executive to execute

[7:58:39] the personal services agreement between the county and PFN and financial advice.

[7:58:45] It's moved by legislative roads, seconded by legislative derity witness, so all those contracts

[7:58:51] are now before the committee.

[7:58:54] First contracts, first two contracts are with the district attorney's office.

[7:59:00] I want to thank you, Mr. McMannis. I know you were here all day, so I appreciate your patience.

[7:59:08] Thank you, Bob McManus, District Attorney's Office. The contract before you is for a research consultant to assist with the hemp state,

[7:59:18] its own protection, its own prosecution program grant, which is intended to reduce crime and

[7:59:26] the village of Hempstead. The goal of the project is to implement crime prevention,

[7:59:33] response and reduction practices. The role of a research consultant is required by the Department

[7:59:38] of Justice in this grant and will facilitate the analysis of crime statistics and law enforcement

[7:59:44] intelligence to increase the probability of a successful result.

[7:59:50] Okay. Thank you. Any questions on this contract?

[7:59:54] So I think you have another one which is the U contract.

[7:59:57] Yes, I do.

[7:59:58] The item.

[8:00:00] The item before you is with the management consultant who will conduct management training course for assistant district attorneys.

[8:00:10] Very often attorneys succeed as attorneys and prosecutors and are given supervisory responsibilities as a result of that.

[8:00:21] very often, they do not have the experience in training to perform management activities successfully

[8:00:28] and this training is intended to assist in that area.

[8:00:34] Any questions?

[8:00:37] All right.

[8:00:37] Thank you again.

[8:00:41] Thank you.

[8:00:42] Thank you.

[8:00:48] Thank you.

[8:00:49] Good evening.

[8:00:57] I'm Susan Park, the Director of Recovery at the Office of Emergency Management.

[8:01:00] Item E-123-21 is a contract with KPMG to provide on-call disaster management services to the county to assist our various departments, offices and agencies in recovery planning and management.

[8:01:15] The scope of services specifies the management and administration of funding streams, including but not limited to programs such as the American Rescue Fund,

[8:01:24] FEMA Public Assistance and the CARES Act to help the county recover from the pandemic and other disasters.

[8:01:32] Item E-123-21 is the result of a competitive RFP process by which the county received 24 proposals.

[8:01:40] The RFP evaluation committee select a KPMG and two other vendors as the most responsible and cost effective consultants for the county.

[8:01:48] The committee selected more than one vendor in case the county will need to respond to two or more disasters at one time.

[8:01:57] Each on-call disaster management services consultant, each time an on-call disaster management services consultant,

[8:02:04] is needed by the county OEM will issue a task order mission to the three contractor vendors,

[8:02:10] and a task order proposal evaluation committee will be selected will select which vendor to award the task order two.

[8:02:17] The contract has a maximum cost of 3.75 million and is scheduled to expire on August 31st, 2025.

[8:02:25] OEM anticipates that the cost of any task order that comes up to the on-call disaster management services contracts will be covered by state and or federal recovery funding streams.

[8:02:35] Thank you.

[8:02:35] Thank you for that presentation.

[8:02:38] Anyone have any questions?

[8:02:42] I thought you had, I thought you had, did you bring up in your list of emergencies item 287-21?

[8:02:49] One,

[8:02:51] two, eighty. This is no. No, eight times.

[8:03:00] Right, it's late. No, no.

[8:03:05] Any questions?

[8:03:07] Thank you. We're all set.

[8:03:15] We're on to the next contract with the Department of Public Works, which is E124.

[8:03:26] Thank you, also. Appreciate your faces.

[8:03:32] I'm Ken Arnold Public Works, E124, the Professional Services Contract for Construction Management

[8:03:38] Services.

[8:03:39] For a roadie servicing phase 67, there were 16 proposals and M&J received the highest technical

[8:03:45] score in the lowest cost of the highest rank firms submitted.

[8:03:49] M&J is an MBE contract, an additional ed, a WBE at 10% of the value of the contract.

[8:03:55] All right. Thank you. Any questions?

[8:04:01] All set. Thank you.

[8:04:03] Last contract is the one we are on table with OMBs with PFFM associates.

[8:04:10] P171.

[8:04:13] PFFM financial service.

[8:04:16] Good afternoon, Andy Persick, of the management budget.

[8:04:20] This item is a new contract in 305 year agreement with PFFM.

[8:04:23] There are some pricing structures that change that we thought would be better

[8:04:26] and I've attached just to it, went to an hourly basis from a part deal basis.

[8:04:31] We've incorporated some of the legislators' comments into the contract that makes it a little

[8:04:36] bit more amen to both parties.

[8:04:39] Yeah, we'll have a little more chance, but we appreciate it.

[8:04:40] No problem.

[8:04:41] Thank you.

[8:04:42] Any questions?

[8:04:43] I'm PFF.

[8:04:46] All right.

[8:04:46] Thank you, Andy.

[8:04:52] All right.

[8:04:53] of contracts, E1117, U3, E123, E124, E171, any further divided discussion?

[8:05:03] Public comments, all of favor signify by saying aye.

[8:05:07] Aye.

[8:05:08] I was opposed.

[8:05:09] The carry unanimously, let's say the roads make some motion to adjourn, seconded by

[8:05:15] legislator.

[8:05:16] The witty-witten, all of favor of adjourning, signify by saying aye.

[8:05:20] was posed. We are adjourned. We call the full legislature back from recess, with the other

[8:05:29] legislators.

[8:05:47] There is a, sorry,

[8:07:51] the legislature out of recess. I think we have a number of

[8:07:56] emergencies.

[8:08:00] Let's you call the two emergencies. The two first two emergencies, both settlements.

[8:08:04] Thank you, emergency resolution number 8-2021, emergency resolution number 8-2021 and emergency

[8:08:15] resolution declaring an emergency for immediate action upon a resolution, resolution authorizing

[8:08:21] the acting county attorney to compromise and settle the claims of plaintiffs at set

[8:08:26] forth in the action entitled, Gaurari, County of NASA or

[8:08:31] Dr. number 16-CV-6983, pursuant to the County Law of the

[8:08:38] County Government, Law of NASA County and the NASA County

[8:08:42] Administrative Code. Next, the Mergent C Resolution is number 9-2021,

[8:08:49] Emergency Resolution number 9-2021, Emergency Resolution Declary

[8:08:52] emergency for a immediate action upon a resolution authorizing the acting

[8:08:57] county attorney to compromise and settle the claims of the Nassau County

[8:09:01] against McCessen Corporation Cardinal Health Inc. And America saw Spurgon

[8:09:07] Corporation collectively to lead the big three pursuant of the county law

[8:09:12] at the county government law of Nassau County and the Nassau County

[8:09:16] administrative code.

[8:09:21] That's both of those emergency correct? That is correct. We need to

[8:09:24] motion to establish the emergency. We'll let it sort of walk a second by a legislator

[8:09:31] trucker. All those with favor of establishing the emergency signal by was saying hi.

[8:09:36] Hi. Emergency established. I believe we have to call the items again.

[8:09:41] To any three resolution, what's the fact that acting counting attorney to

[8:09:44] compromise and sell the claims of plaintiffs that says fourth, in the action entitled

[8:09:48] a rare reverse of the county vessel.

[8:09:50] To 84, this is a resolution that provides an act in county attorney to compromise and settle

[8:09:55] claims of the county of the vessel against the Kessian Corporation, Cardinal Health

[8:10:00] and a Maris sauce for Bergen Corporation.

[8:10:04] Motion by legislative muskarella, seconded by legislative regime.

[8:10:11] So these two matters are before us.

[8:10:14] We have anyone here who can speak to the 284 which is the settlement with the

[8:10:20] I hope you all had many factors.

[8:10:29] Good evening, legislators.

[8:10:30] Chief Deputy County Attorney Jessica Mulanaris.

[8:10:33] We do have special counsel here of the firm of Napoli Scolnick.

[8:10:36] You're just both lucky like to bring them, like me,

[8:10:38] bring them to the podium.

[8:10:40] To the extent that you can describe the elements

[8:10:42] without us having to go to executive session

[8:10:45] and we're willing to do this in public.

[8:10:49] I mean, if we feel that there's a need for executive session,

[8:10:51] we'll let you know all of you let us know.

[8:10:53] Understood.

[8:10:54] Thank you.

[8:11:11] I guess you have to keep in mind the litigation is ongoing, correct?

[8:11:15] All right.

[8:11:15] So I mean, so is there any information you give us out here without affecting that litigation?

[8:11:27] I'm good evening.

[8:11:29] My name is Marie Napoli from Napoli Skolnik.

[8:11:32] I'm here today with South Dallas, and we're representing you in this litigation.

[8:11:40] And we have today the settlement with the big three.

[8:11:44] And I will have Sal, give you the details of that.

[8:11:47] But we're recommending that you accept this settlement.

[8:11:53] Good evening.

[8:11:54] Thank you.

[8:11:55] This is similar to Salvatore Bidalin from Nathlete Schollin.

[8:11:59] This is similar to the Johnson & Johnson settlement.

[8:12:02] We discussed a few weeks ago.

[8:12:04] It is a New York State settlement that's pursuant

[8:12:06] to the allocation agreement.

[8:12:09] But one thing that is different is

[8:12:11] is an additional amount of money that NASA County gets for actually litigating this case along

[8:12:17] with Suffolk County, and that would be paid on September 30th at additional money. In addition

[8:12:23] to that, there is injunctive relief, similar to Johnson and Johnson, like we discussed, which would

[8:12:29] help to cut off the supply of opioids that have been pouring into the community. Additionally,

[8:12:35] NATO-NASO County will get a membership board that will actually oversee the entire country when

[8:12:44] it comes to the jump to believe.

[8:12:46] So NASO County will be one of 17 different states and municipalities that are on this board

[8:12:51] that can actually oversee the jump to release.

[8:12:54] And just as was mentioned, just an update on litigation itself without getting into detail,

[8:12:59] that litigation is still going on against four remaining defendants.

[8:13:03] And if this, exactly, I'm sorry, we're currently in trial at Toro with those four remaining defendants.

[8:13:11] I would just note for the record that we had a lengthy discussion three weeks ago, a lengthy presentation, which was excellent.

[8:13:19] So that's why we did not need to go to executive session tonight.

[8:13:23] I understand, thank you.

[8:13:25] Do you have any issue with mentioning the amount?

[8:13:29] No, we can mention them.

[8:13:31] The allocation for the New York-wide settlement, it's a range because we have to see how many

[8:13:37] other communities sign on for New York State.

[8:13:39] It's not part of a national, it's not contingent on say, I was signing on, it's just

[8:13:43] for New York State.

[8:13:45] National, the range is between 52 million and 66 million.

[8:13:49] However, like I said, there's that additional sum of money of $20 million that gets paid

[8:13:54] to national counties.

[8:13:55] So you can add that on time.

[8:13:59] You're welcome.

[8:14:01] Thank you again.

[8:14:01] And you have the lead service.

[8:14:05] Thank you again.

[8:14:06] Thank you for continuing work for us.

[8:14:08] We appreciate it.

[8:14:08] Thank you.

[8:14:09] Great results.

[8:14:12] 27, 2000.

[8:14:13] I'm sorry.

[8:14:14] Before we go to that.

[8:14:15] Any debated discussion on these two items?

[8:14:18] Hearing none.

[8:14:20] All favour of 283 and 284.

[8:14:22] Seeing none.

[8:14:24] Those opposed.

[8:14:25] Carry unanimously.

[8:14:27] I guess we have two more emergencies to do.

[8:14:33] One, sir.

[8:14:33] Why don't you read them both?

[8:14:34] I will.

[8:14:36] Emergency Resolution.

[8:14:38] The number 10 dash, 2021.

[8:14:40] An emergency resolution declaring an emergency or immediate action.

[8:14:44] Upon a resolution authorizing the county executive enter into.

[8:14:48] An execute grant agreement and subscriptions agreement on behalf of the county's

[8:14:53] Veteran Service Agency.

[8:14:54] It varies not for profit, better in organizations that are funded with money.

[8:15:00] Receive by the county under the American Rescue Plan, local fiscal recovery fund, and which have been supplementary appropriated.

[8:15:11] To fund grant agreements with such not-for-profit veterans' organization will purpose of responding to these effects of the public health emergency caused by the COVID-19 pandemic,

[8:15:21] where it's negative economic impacts.

[8:15:25] The second emergency that is in view is 11-21 emergency resolution, resolution number, and

[8:15:36] emergency declaring an emergency for immediate action upon a resolution authorizing the county

[8:15:42] executive to enter into its sub-recipient agreement with the Long Island Water Conference

[8:15:49] to administer a program on behalf of the County Department of Public Works to provide grants

[8:15:55] to water suppliers and NASA County for the purpose of the frame that caused associated

[8:16:00] with treatment and removal of contaminants from the drinking water, which shall be funded

[8:16:06] with money received by the County under the American Rescue Plan's local fiscal recovery

[8:16:12] refund and which has been supplementally appropriated as part of the County's Water Quality Protection

[8:16:19] Initiative, with the purpose of making necessary investments in drinking water infrastructure.

[8:16:28] Thank you.

[8:16:29] Any motion to establish the emergency?

[8:16:34] Let us let a road, second by let's let me like.

[8:16:38] Well, I need the discussion on that.

[8:16:40] All in favor of establishing the emergency signify by saying aye, aye, those opposed.

[8:16:45] The emergency is established, and with the consent of the minority, I think we can

[8:16:50] wave reading of these two items, but they are items 287 and 288s.

[8:16:56] We need a motion by, let's say, for ready, seconded by, let's say the Bino, on these two items.

[8:17:06] There are some of them in the administration that would want to address these two.

[8:17:17] Good evening, legislators.

[8:17:19] The two items before you relate to the American Rescue Plan and the county's continuing

[8:17:25] programming of the funding allotted to the county.

[8:17:30] As mentioned, the first request a proposal would be to benefit our veterans, as the county

[8:17:39] has appropriated $1 million in ARP funds for $8 to veterans impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic.

[8:17:50] The county has put forth or is putting forth two programs that would be funded through

[8:17:57] this $1 million dollar law that the distinction here is out of the realm of veterans'

[8:18:04] organizations. There are 501C-3 organizations. And in that case, the county can make

[8:18:12] subrecipient agreements and grants to those organizations. So if you are a 501C-3, you are

[8:18:20] eligible under the ARP program to recoup costs, you are also eligible to render services

[8:18:29] to veterans who were impacted and qualified under ARP.

[8:18:36] The non-Fivell1C3s are, for instance, your VFW post, your American Legion posts.

[8:18:44] Those are known as Fivell1C19s.

[8:18:48] In that case, those organizations are eligible as a subrecipient to the county, to render

[8:18:54] services to, again, to veterans who were impacted.

[8:18:58] They are not per as per ARPA eligible to recoup loss costs.

[8:19:06] So again, 501C3s are eligible as a subrecipient or grant recipient to recoup costs

[8:19:14] or render services, 501C19s, which are your VFWs, your American Legion Posts, are not able

[8:19:21] to recoup costs.

[8:19:22] but they are able to render services to help veterans who have been impacted.

[8:19:29] Out of the $1 million we are looking to make grants and subrecipient agreements to as many

[8:19:35] organizations as we can.

[8:19:38] The portal, the boost portal is open so we are looking to encourage those organizations to

[8:19:44] apply.

[8:19:44] We have placed a cap per grant or per subrecipient agreement at $10,000 each in order to reach as many organizations into provide grants and subrecipient agreements to as many organizations as possible attached to your packet.

[8:20:04] We do have a non-exhaustive list of veterans organizations, both 501C3s and non-C3s that we will

[8:20:12] be doing targeted outreach to ensure that if these organizations have the capacity to do

[8:20:19] this type of work that they apply through the boost portal and we receive those applications

[8:20:25] so that we can make those grants and super-supercipient agreements as quickly as possible.

[8:20:31] Let's sort of forward.

[8:20:33] Thank you.

[8:20:34] Sorry.

[8:20:35] Thank you.

[8:20:44] Now I'm the residing officer.

[8:20:48] It's all my plan.

[8:20:49] But thank you.

[8:20:51] In regards to the Veterans of Organizations, what type of services?

[8:20:54] What is it that makes them eligible to be able to get this grant of up to 10,000?

[8:21:00] Sure.

[8:21:01] So the 501C3 organizations, again, if they have had or they offer catering services to veterans,

[8:21:08] and so forth. And due to the pandemic, they were unable to operate. They are eligible for

[8:21:13] cost recovery. On the service side, they can provide services such as food drives, clothing,

[8:21:22] and transportation drives, funds can also be used to bring any rent mortgages or utilities up

[8:21:30] to, you know, up to current status for those, for those organizations.

[8:21:38] The Veterans Organizations that are not seat-free, so the BFW, the American Regions,

[8:21:42] they can also hold events to help their veteran constituents, so if it's a sort of a job

[8:21:50] fair or job training and placement, those sort of things will be eligible for utilization

[8:21:55] of these funds.

[8:21:57] So as long as they provide something that will help, you know, maybe educate some of

[8:22:00] veterans, they help them to be like veterans, to like, you know, when you do the stand-down or

[8:22:05] something like that, like maybe educate them with different things?

[8:22:10] Yes, in terms of, they need to be eligible for the ARPA eligible, you know, I am so if it's

[8:22:18] job training or job placement or job referrals, because veterans, as a group was not specifically

[8:22:26] mentioned in ARPA, but veterans who were economically impacted and are eligible under ARPA can

[8:22:33] receive these services through the organizations. So we can job referral services, that's

[8:22:38] sort of thing. So if they host it, they'll be able to get up to $10,000.

[8:22:42] The organizations that host exactly, they'll be able to get up to that amount to host or

[8:22:49] provide that service to the veterans themselves do not receive and that'll be it'll be spelled out on the

[8:22:58] booths, NASA portal. It is so the scope of work is actually pre-populated in the booths portal so the ideas to make it as simple as possible for these

[8:23:07] organizations. To go in they put in their organizational information they're basically checking a box that they can

[8:23:13] the former, they will conform to the pre-populated scope of work.

[8:23:17] And can they also go, because I know that it was indicated that we're going to open up

[8:23:22] a site in Eisenhower, we'll talk, we have like three or four people that will be there.

[8:23:27] So, can, like, if a veteran's organization was in truck, and they go there to have their

[8:23:32] questions answered and, like, maybe have their applications submitted at that time, they

[8:23:37] can make an appointment?

[8:23:38] Absolutely.

[8:23:38] And as encouraged, if, you know, they can certainly go online and try to do that themselves

[8:23:43] Otherwise, they're free to go to the resource center and Eisenhower Park and a staff person will help them fill out the application.

[8:23:49] And then, like you said, your outreach will you be indicating that to the Veterans Organizations that we're going to encourage you to do it online, but if you have questions, call or you can go to Eisenhower Park.

[8:23:59] On down, absolutely.

[8:24:00] Okay, and then the last question, because it's late.

[8:24:04] But we have one where they do, we have a woman who offers, she works with veterans with PTSD.

[8:24:10] So she might do exercise classes with, she might do acupuncture and things like that, strictly for veterans, would she be somebody who would be eligible under the 501-3C veterans?

[8:24:22] If she is rendering a service that is eligible under or...

[8:24:26] Okay.

[8:24:26] Social security, housing security, unemployment, those types of services to reduce those insecurities and unemployment, yes, should be eligible.

[8:24:35] Okay, thank you very much.

[8:24:36] Okay, so let me just follow up on it and let's set it for me and ask this,

[8:24:45] but you developing

[8:24:46] a program to go out to the various veterans or bring them into explain this entire process

[8:24:53] because the directing that we're going to go to boostness or portal is not for the most part

[8:24:58] going to be very helpful.

[8:24:59] They're going to have to be walked through the process, shown how it is and services that

[8:25:03] can't be rendered that will be reimbursed.

[8:25:06] Yes, and our veteran services agency will be spearheading that effort, my understanding is there is a meeting that's being set up with the sort of the larger applications organizations to inform them of this opportunity.

[8:25:22] Let's let a road to that opportunity.

[8:25:24] Yeah, just a couple of my promise quick questions.

[8:25:26] With respect to the 50C 503C 19s.

[8:25:34] Is it for services that they can provide moving forward or can they seek reimbursement for services that were provided during the course of the pandemic?

[8:25:43] Many of them did food drive, many of them did think, are they able to go back retroactively?

[8:25:50] Legislature, we'll have to look into if they can get reimbursed for services that have already been rendered prior to them receiving the sub recipient agreement.

[8:25:57] Okay, and with respect to the $10,000 limit for both 501 and C3s and 501, C19s.

[8:26:06] Is that $10,000 limit something that we've established or the administration is established or is that something that's actually established in orbit?

[8:26:14] It is not established in orbit, something that the administration has established.

[8:26:19] With the point being getting as many organizations grants as possible.

[8:26:24] We originally had a list of about 100 of VW post-American Legion posts.

[8:26:30] We know that it can be maybe more than that number, but we know some organizations

[8:26:36] are in his active as others.

[8:26:38] So 10,000 should be enough for many of these organizations to do some real meaningful work.

[8:26:45] But again, it was a county decision and not a requirement in Auckland.

[8:26:50] Now, I know that the majority, it's not on to a letter that we had sent to the,

[8:26:55] that we sent, I believe, Senator Schumer and Senator Gilbrand, asking them to,

[8:27:01] to seek an amendment to the guidance to permit 501C,

[8:27:06] 19s to be considered the same as 501C3s for the purposes of benefits.

[8:27:10] Have you heard any updates from the federal government,

[8:27:13] with respect to whether that's being considered?

[8:27:17] I don't believe we have a legislature actually.

[8:27:21] Who is part of the issue is that the FW Halls and American Legion Halls usually rely on rental income

[8:27:29] from events for their sustenance, and obviously they've missed out on that for 16 months.

[8:27:36] So, them being excluded as 501C-19s from being able to seek reimbursement from money that they've lost.

[8:27:42] Now, obviously there's a tremendous issue for them.

[8:27:46] Have you heard anything?

[8:27:46] Or no, we will follow up with you on any guidance that's either forthcoming or or as for it already been issued by the by the Treasury.

[8:27:57] I appreciate that and if we can actually try the administration consistent pressing that issue to try and get a more expensive definition definition, I'm sure there would be helpful.

[8:28:09] Lastly, with respect to other not for profits, obviously, this is only with respect to veterans organizations was before us today.

[8:28:16] is there a plan to allocate any funds to other not-for-profit organizations like Lyons, likes

[8:28:24] of Columbus, other catering type facilities that lost money during the philanthropic organizations

[8:28:32] that lost money during the pandemic, but usually rely on catering funds.

[8:28:37] My understanding is that those organizations would be eligible for if they are rendering

[8:28:42] services under other programs that will be rolled out under the county's opera,

[8:28:47] money that have already been appropriated, but as for cost recovery for those types

[8:28:52] of organizations, I think that's your question.

[8:28:56] I'm going to have to get back to the legislature on whether or not that's a sort of

[8:29:00] a next step for us.

[8:29:01] Thank you, Mr. South.

[8:29:02] Okay, sir.

[8:29:04] Okay, any other questions on this side?

[8:29:08] All right.

[8:29:09] Do you want to jump into the water conservation?

[8:29:13] Certainly.

[8:29:18] So this item pertains to the water conservation

[8:29:23] ARPA program that the county has established.

[8:29:27] Of the $6 million that was appropriated back in June for the water conservation

[8:29:32] of water quality program, this is a smaller

[8:29:35] of that total, of that total, 6 million, the administration is proposing $1,550,000,

[8:29:45] or for a water quality initiative, that those funds would be, excuse me, would be.

[8:30:00] Move through a subreciping agreement to the long-out and water conference so that the water conference can then distribute and allocate grants to each of the public and private water districts in NASA County to provide funding for upgrades to their treatment facilities, their portable water treatment facilities.

[8:30:19] So we've all heard of the one-four dioxane and emerging other emerging contaminants.

[8:30:25] This funding would go to those water districts to make those capital improvements to improve

[8:30:33] the water quality for our residents.

[8:30:37] We are proposing grants up to $50,000 to each eligible water district.

[8:30:42] Again, that $50,000 could go to capital for upgrading their treatment facilities.

[8:30:49] The Long Island Water Conference would be engaged through this subrecipient agreement with the county to administer the program.

[8:30:58] The Long Island Water Conference would then administer the program on all behalf and work with the public and private water districts to make those grants.

[8:31:08] Those water districts will apply to the county and to the Long Island Water Conference for grants.

[8:31:17] And we will track that through the Boost NASA portal.

[8:31:23] Any questions on this?

[8:31:26] Let's get a look.

[8:31:28] I know it's up to 50,000.

[8:31:32] Would that be determined by the number of wells that they need to put treatment on?

[8:31:39] I mean, I guess some districts might not, if they were lucky, and they didn't have any contaminants in their water,

[8:31:46] they might not have to address it all, and yet there are other districts that are buried under with contaminants.

[8:31:54] But the max, any one would receive would be the 50,000.

[8:31:58] Would be the 50,000.

[8:32:00] We are asking the districts to, in their applications, to explain what they held a plan on using the funding.

[8:32:06] So if they are a larger district or they have a, with their district has a more, a predominant issue with, with contaminants that would surely determine how much funding out of the 50,000 cap they would receive, but at this time we don't plan going over 50,000 per water district.

[8:32:27] Thank you.

[8:32:30] Let's head back down.

[8:32:32] Is this similar to what you said before with the veterans?

[8:32:34] What if they've already started the work?

[8:32:37] And, you know, they're already at a later stage of the work with this grant be applicable?

[8:32:49] Good evening, Branch Nighter.

[8:32:50] That's the executive of Parks and Public Works.

[8:32:53] So, legislator, your question is if a water district is experiencing contamination,

[8:32:58] of the already started a project remediation project, you know, basically we're asking what

[8:33:05] it districts to provide justification for whatever issues they're having specific to emerging

[8:33:11] contaminants, one-four-to-oxane or PFOPFLAs.

[8:33:15] If they have other contamination, it does not, this funding does not cover that.

[8:33:19] If they have nitrogen issues or other organic or interganic issues, this is only specific to

[8:33:25] the emerging contamination.

[8:33:27] So if there is a project that they've already started, $50,000 is not a lot of money when it comes to the cost of the remediation projects, but the $50,000 could be used for any portion of their project, whether it's replacing chemicals or a physical testing that they need to do.

[8:33:47] So it's anything that has to do with that emerging contaminant project going forward.

[8:33:56] Just said going forward, so it is just going forward?

[8:33:59] Yeah, I mean, if they can justify the cost that they have, if they're putting in a treatment

[8:34:04] unit that is specific to treating one-for-a-dancing now, that would be certainly an eligible

[8:34:10] expense.

[8:34:10] Again, the long-out water conference is going to be overseeing an administering this.

[8:34:14] So as water professionals, they will also be working with our consultants and using the guidance

[8:34:21] on the U.S. Treasury to make sure that it conforms to all the requirements to make sure

[8:34:26] that the money is going to be spent in a proper form.

[8:34:30] Okay, Emily, we'd be reaching out to all the water districts.

[8:34:33] Yes, the water conference we've already had a number of meetings with them. They're very

[8:34:37] excited. They're wishing that the decimal point can move a little bit to provide more funding,

[8:34:43] but keep in mind we are going to have another bucket of money that's going to become available next

[8:34:48] here so we're hoping that we'll be able to expand the program depending upon the need and

[8:34:54] the success.

[8:34:55] Okay, great.

[8:34:56] Thank you.

[8:34:59] Okay.

[8:34:59] Any other questions?

[8:35:03] Thank you.

[8:35:04] Thank you.

[8:35:04] I wish you all the best.

[8:35:06] Thank you.

[8:35:08] I don't know.

[8:35:10] That's about 12 hours now.

[8:35:14] Okay.

[8:35:15] All in favor of these items, signify by saying aye.

[8:35:17] Aye.

[8:35:18] Those opposed.

[8:35:20] Carry unanimously.

[8:35:20] We're going back to the regular calendar, we have hearing on a local law to amend the

[8:35:26] National County Administrative Code to create a special revenue fund to assist

[8:35:30] National County to combat the opioid epidemic,

[8:35:37] who by legislative walker, seconded by

[8:35:41] legislative druger, that's a motion to open the hearing. All the favour of opening

[8:35:52] It's really brief, this special revenue fund will ensure that money is from the settlements

[8:36:00] grow to the open, to go to actually combat a new opioid epidemic, including interventions,

[8:36:07] recovery services, education, support, and assistance to those that suffer from opioid addiction

[8:36:12] into their families.

[8:36:14] I know where we have to slip from Brian Sullivan, President of Corrections Office, but never

[8:36:20] And so I was

[8:36:28] just...

[8:36:29] I could eat any of these as far as possible.

[8:36:31] I know it's late we've had a very long day.

[8:36:34] Earlier today when we did the top caps,

[8:36:36] it was a very good event as always,

[8:36:40] but one thing that I always pick up on when the police come up

[8:36:43] and the commissioner comes up we talk about the comprehensive training

[8:36:46] and PD training that they get,

[8:36:48] and that's what kind of launches me into my normal issues here.

[8:36:53] We've got in the opioid issue on the opioid settlements

[8:36:55] since long before the opioid crisis, and the drug overdose issue became front-page headline news,

[8:37:00] local correctional institutions have been at the forefront of this drug scourge that has

[8:37:04] affected countless lives. We have recognized for years the beneficial effect of inmate programs

[8:37:09] and officer training, designed to address the crisis of addiction and mental health issues that

[8:37:14] must be confronted to lay the correct path for inmates to follow that will allow for a successful

[8:37:18] transition to their communities upon their release from our facilities. With that in mind,

[8:37:23] I bring to your urgent attention the need for funding of these programs in our facility,

[8:37:28] funding that, as you can imagine, just like everything else in our facility has been cut

[8:37:32] to ribbons or deleted over the last several years.

[8:37:35] There's a cautionary tale to be told here, which I understood is being avoided by the

[8:37:41] formation of this fund, which is the $200 billion tobacco settlement in 1998.

[8:37:46] Only fractions of that money went to preventing smoking and helping people quit, instead

[8:37:50] the money went to plug holes in state and local budgets. Johnson and Johnson is paying $5 billion

[8:37:56] to my knowledge, a Marisaurus Bergen and Cardinal Health is paying $6.4 billion. This

[8:38:00] is all in the federal level, and the Kesson is paying $7.9 billion, incredibly $2 billion

[8:38:06] of that is reserved for lawyers' fees. I guess I'm in the wrong business. But $120 something

[8:38:13] million is going to be coming now, so county's way. The second biggest care settlement

[8:38:17] behind to backoh, and at least 70% of the money is to go to a bait and activities such

[8:38:21] as providing Narcan, helping the homeless with addiction problems or educating the public

[8:38:26] on the dangers of drugs.

[8:38:28] Everyone involved wants this money to go to opioid abatement around the country.

[8:38:32] Please consider me an advocate on how I want to see this money, at least in our portion

[8:38:37] here in Nassau County, spent.

[8:38:39] A crucial excuse me, that a portion of this money be reserved for programs in the Nassau

[8:38:45] national facility, both for inmate programs themselves, particularly with the advent of the

[8:38:50] hot legislation that is being forced down our throats once again by Albany, by people

[8:38:56] who have no idea how to run correctional facilities, but will mandate what is done inside

[8:39:00] of them. And also for training of our correction officers, the opioid crisis is raised through

[8:39:05] this county and country, and we deal with it every day in corrections, having to deal not

[8:39:10] only with inmates who are mentally ill or others that are violent predators, but many of

[8:39:15] who's criminality is directly related to their addiction to opioids and are now in our

[8:39:20] department's problem to deal with. All with little to no resources. Programs for the inmates

[8:39:25] and specialized training for our officers on how to deal with the mentally ill and addicted

[8:39:29] is how this money would and should be spent at local correctional facilities like ours.

[8:39:34] We cannot let this settlement be another one of the greatest missed public health and public

[8:39:38] safety opportunities as was the tobacco settlement. Every element of this settlement should be geared

[8:39:43] towards remediating the harm the scourge has caused and prevented from continuing.

[8:39:48] And targeting those that have broken the law and caused pain and suffering to innumerable

[8:39:52] families because of their actions connected to the opioid addiction, who are now residing

[8:39:57] in our facilities, is one hell of a good targeting point to remediate this problem.

[8:40:02] I am going to be all over our current administration that, as we know, are appointed and usually

[8:40:08] have to get the OK from somebody before they speak in public.

[8:40:11] And I want to be not the only person advocating for programs in the jail for inmates and

[8:40:17] training for our officers.

[8:40:18] I certainly hope that I'm not alone here and doing that advocacy.

[8:40:21] Thank you very much.

[8:40:23] I'm Brian, one of the money is in the fund that can't be spent unless legislature approves

[8:40:28] this funding.

[8:40:30] So I think it's speaking from all of us that we will certainly support progress for inmates.

[8:40:35] I mean, it's certainly the front lines of battling the opioid epidemic.

[8:40:39] And it has well-trained for your officers.

[8:40:42] I appreciate that.

[8:40:43] There's a lot of money in the county's bank.

[8:40:45] There's a lot of training.

[8:40:46] Not just on opioids.

[8:40:48] Thank you.

[8:40:49] Brian, you also, I'm sure that we all support you

[8:40:53] and your efforts on this.

[8:40:54] And I, you know, one of the women who used to work

[8:40:56] and one of my assistants, Nadine, actually,

[8:40:59] volunteers at the jail.

[8:41:01] And on Friday nights, she helps with those who are covering

[8:41:05] alcoholics.

[8:41:06] And she had always spoken about the importance of that problem.

[8:41:09] program and how beneficial it had been to so many of the inmates there.

[8:41:14] So I'm sure that the same can be said for those that are going through opioid addiction

[8:41:19] and any of the type of addiction, so anything that can help these people turn their lives

[8:41:24] around and get on their tracks.

[8:41:25] We need to have a lot of good programs in the United States and we need to bring the

[8:41:29] back education.

[8:41:30] We just need it.

[8:41:31] We have the money.

[8:41:32] Let's start investing because I think we could save a lot of people, you know, that way.

[8:41:38] I appreciate it. Thank you.

[8:41:41] Let's not walk.

[8:41:44] I just want to quickly add.

[8:41:46] I will be doing all I can to make sure that you receive

[8:41:52] some of those funds to do education in any way that we can,

[8:41:58] especially target the group that's in the Correction Center.

[8:42:03] our inmates and certainly for our workers who are there, our corrections officers, and what

[8:42:09] they can do to help and combat this, because hopefully when they, many of them, I'm sure

[8:42:15] are in our corrections facility because of their opioid addiction, and hopefully it will

[8:42:20] make a big difference for them when they get out, and hopefully have looked forward to a much

[8:42:25] better life and not end up back in there, or end up even worse, not here at all.

[8:42:31] But whatever we can do, I'm sure all of us will be pushing towards that.

[8:42:36] I appreciate that much, like.

[8:42:39] Okay.

[8:42:39] Let's, like, be like.

[8:42:42] Thank you, providing, presenting officer.

[8:42:45] I fully support programs, certainly going to the correction facility.

[8:42:49] But actually, I wanted to make another comment.

[8:42:52] So if you want to meet a weight, I can do that.

[8:42:55] On this.

[8:42:56] Okay.

[8:42:58] So one of my constituents came today,

[8:43:01] intending to speak on this she she had a tragic situation in her family involving opioid addiction and

[8:43:09] So I can't speak for her because I don't know exactly what she wanted to say, but I might be able to get her remarks

[8:43:16] And you can add them to the record. I can't leave spots. Yeah, yeah,

[8:43:24] so I have absolutely get every marks and we'll make sure it's part of the record

[8:43:26] Okay, thank you

[8:43:29] All right, put in anyone else.

[8:43:32] No, thank you.

[8:43:33] Thank you.

[8:43:37] It's an emotion to close the hearing.

[8:43:41] Most are closed by, let's say, the Drucker, seconded by legislative walker.

[8:43:46] All in favor, close the hearing signify by saying aye.

[8:43:48] Aye.

[8:43:48] Those opposed.

[8:43:50] All right, the hearing is closed.

[8:43:57] Then we go to the vote on the item,

[8:44:03] which will be item six, a local law to amend.

[8:44:06] The National County Administrative Code to create a special revenue fund to assist the county to combat the opioid epidemic.

[8:44:15] A little bi-legislator walker, seconded bi-legislator.

[8:44:20] Burnbound.

[8:44:22] Any debate or discussion?

[8:44:24] The public comments?

[8:44:26] Won't they have a single-pepper saying aye?

[8:44:29] Those opposed?

[8:44:31] Passes unanimously.

[8:44:34] And four is a hearing on a local lot to amend the Nestor County Minister of Code to prohibit the refusal to serve first responders.

[8:44:41] Motion to open a hearing by the Legislative Mayor of Aperham.

[8:44:44] Minority in the Aperham.

[8:44:45] Seconded by Deputy Visiting Officer Coppel.

[8:44:48] All in favour of opening the hearing.

[8:44:49] Seeing the pepper saying aye.

[8:44:51] On the post.

[8:44:53] Carries unanimously.

[8:44:54] The hearing is open.

[8:45:00] Any debate or discussion on this item?

[8:45:14] How do you deal?

[8:45:15] Okay.

[8:45:23] I'm sure.

[8:45:26] All right. Any debate or discussion on public comment on this post-local law?

[8:45:36] Hearing none.

[8:45:37] We wish to close the hearing.

[8:45:40] By let's later.

[8:45:41] Muscurella, seconded by Deputy Presiding Officer Coupel, dropped down to item number 8.

[8:45:48] It's a local law to amend the National County Minister of Code to prohibit the refusal to serve first responders.

[8:45:56] We'll buy a legislative walker, seconded by a legislative court, and he debate at the discussion and he public comment.

[8:46:03] All in favour of signify by saying aye.

[8:46:06] Those opposed carries unanimously.

[8:46:08] And that number nine is not being called tonight.

[8:46:13] We have to go to items, I'm 31.

[8:46:22] 31 is a resolution to establish a blue alert system to aid the identification location,

[8:46:28] apprehensive apprehension of any individual or individual suspected of killing,

[8:46:32] was seriously wounding any law enforcement officer.

[8:46:35] Ambulance medical technician or police medic,

[8:46:46] Thank you, President Officer. Very briefly. I proudly sponsor this bill, and I'm grateful for my college and the majority who amended this to include more of our first responders.

[8:46:56] This bill establishes Nassau County's first ever blue alert system.

[8:46:59] model after the amber alert system, the blue alert system will establish an emergency

[8:47:04] communication protocol to alert the public of critical information regarding an individual

[8:47:09] who either seriously angers or kills a cop. I think it is crucial and I urge a strong

[8:47:14] guest vote.

[8:47:15] Thank you.

[8:47:17] Thank you.

[8:47:18] Any other debate of discussion on this?

[8:47:21] I mean, none of the favour signify by saying not

[8:47:25] question.

[8:47:26] Um, who actually will monitor a minister to the blue or system, I'll just put a record.

[8:47:32] I figured it's a P.D., but I just want to make sure I establish that for the record.

[8:47:36] So, per my bill, the police commissioner had sole authority to issue the alert.

[8:47:40] I believe the majority's amendment was the police commissioner, and or his or her representatives, correct?

[8:47:45] Yes.

[8:47:49] Any other questions?

[8:47:51] All in favor, signify by saying aye.

[8:47:53] Aye.

[8:47:54] Aye.

[8:47:54] Those opposed.

[8:47:54] carries unanimously.

[8:47:57] I know 32, resolution 119, resolution 2.

[8:48:01] Established a special legislative task force to combat anti-semitism.

[8:48:08] Let's move by legislative drop a second and by legislative burn-bound.

[8:48:14] There is an amendment to the nature of a substitution that will increase the number of community members on the task force for five to not less than, less than five and not more than 15.

[8:48:24] the motion to amend by Deputy Attorney General Officer Co-Pell.

[8:48:30] Seconded by Legislative Laphase and the debate of discussion on the amendments.

[8:48:38] All in favour of the amendment to signify by saying aye.

[8:48:42] Those opposed amendment passes unanimously, so now we have to consider the bill as amended.

[8:48:47] All in favour of the resolution as amended, signify by saying aye.

[8:48:50] So I can quite do that. Let's say the drop.

[8:48:53] Thank you for letting us want to make a quick statement.

[8:48:55] This was a bill that I introduced and I want to say that I'm very proud of my colleagues

[8:48:59] on the legislature for joining me in recognizing the urgency of combating and eradicating

[8:49:04] the shameful rise in anti-Semitism and hatred directed to choose.

[8:49:08] This resolution is a working resolution designed to study the root causes of anti-Semitism

[8:49:14] in our county where it comes from, where it is most concentrated and how do we prevent

[8:49:19] from taking hold and growing. The task force that this resolution provides for enlist the expertise

[8:49:25] and overall quality of the people that will be on it to do the work necessary to eliminate

[8:49:31] the scourge and bring this county closer to the ideals we aspire to.

[8:49:39] Thank you. Anyone else? Okay. All in favour of the resolution as amended signify by saying aye.

[8:49:46] Those opposed, resolution passes unanimously, if that's it, we're going to put a, let's say meeting it to recess.

[8:49:58] Obviously, it's a long month and in case there's something that requires us to come back before our next set of committees,

[8:50:05] well, the flexibility to do that so I'm going to put a legislature in recess.

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