[1:54] I will call to order the board of county commissioners of Moso County, Kansas.

[1:58] This is Tuesday, August the 25th, 2026. It's 1:00 and this is a regular meeting.

[2:02] Will stand for the pledge of allegiance and the invocation.

[2:09] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[2:14] republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[2:20] justice for all. >> You'll stay standing.

[2:24] » Will you pray with me? Heavenly Father God, we come to you today and uh the

[2:29] words of scripture just mediate through my head right now. And I'm reminded of

[2:35] what it says in Ephesians. Do not be anxious about anything, but by prayer

[2:40] and petition with thanksgiving, present requests to God. A and God, we come to

[2:45] you today and we do that. We are thankful for this nation. We are

[2:49] thankful for this community and we're thankful that we have you to lead us.

[2:54] And it's because of that, because of your word, we come to you. We we request

[2:59] these things that you will take any anxious thoughts away from us. that we

[3:03] will sit, we will listen, and we will trust in you, and that we'll have the

[3:08] peace that surpasses all understanding that only comes

[3:12] with your blessing. In Jesus name we pray. Amen.

[3:16] » Amen. >> Amen. Thank you.

[3:25] » All right. Do we have anything to add to the agenda?

[3:31] » I am nosy. Couple things removal of Tasha.

[3:38] » Okay, we can take Tasha off.

[3:43] » So, we need to add transfer. >> Yes.

[3:48] » So, unfinished business, I guess. >> Old business.

[3:54] » Can you switch that to old business? >> Sure.

[4:00] Kind of the same thing.

[4:05] What did you want to do? I don't have anything else.

[4:14] » Add me under Mike there.

[4:19] Department update, please.

[4:31] NRP under consent agenda. We have two

[4:45] miles.

[4:49] » All right. Commission comments or reports.

[4:56] I have done with it. >> So last week I went to the CIC

[5:00] conference. It was very insightful. Enjoyed being there even though a lot of

[5:04] it was over my head. But it's our software program that we use for

[5:09] finance, financial reports, etc. Um so it was very well attended and just a

[5:15] little bit more respect for the company and um what's coming for the future. So

[5:20] they had a lot of good things to say. And then I'd like to take this time also

[5:24] to thank our emergency um departments, our 911 and emergency

[5:30] management and volunteer fire departments and uh I think the sheriff's

[5:35] department really was involved in the fire that happened early Monday morning.

[5:39] I just appreciate all of them being there and and taking care of that

[5:45] situation. So those things are really tough. So we just really pray for that

[5:50] family. um that did suffer that loss. So, it's really tough.

[5:57] Okay, public comment.

[6:02] Seeing none, go on to the consent agenda.

[6:19] So, I'll make a motion that we approve the consent agenda as presented, which

[6:23] includes accounts payable of 378,39233,

[6:29] payroll clearing of 20735441,

[6:35] one department head leave request, and two NRPS.

[6:39] » I'll second. >> I'll second.

[6:41] » All those in favor? I motion carried. >> Laura second.

[6:48] » Yes. Yes.

[6:53] » All right. So, we're on to scheduled attendees. We have IMA here today to

[6:58] talk about our renewals for health insurance.

[7:04] Always a fun subject. >> I bring better news this year than last

[7:08] year. >> Much better news than last year.

[7:10] » Okay. Well, you're welcome. We appreciate all you guys do for us.

[7:15] » Thank you. I appreciate you guys for continuing to partner with us. Um

[7:21] believe I met most of you guys last year, but you know, as I mentioned, this

[7:25] renewal is a lot better than what last year looked like. So, I'm I'm happy to

[7:28] be here to to present. Okay.

[7:34] So, if we want to go ahead and get started, um here on the first page, I

[7:37] just have a a quick executive summary really highlighting all the different

[7:41] medical, dental, vision, and um life and disability coverages. So, the initial

[7:48] Blue Cross of Kansas medical renewal did come in at a 4.4%

[7:52] overall increase. Um, you know, based on how the plan is running and and really

[7:58] given kind of last year's renewal increase, we were able to get a

[8:00] concession off that initial renewal to bring it down to just under 1%. Which,

[8:06] um, in the market today, a 1% renewal is unheard of. Um, so I'm I'm super pleased

[8:10] to present this to you all today. Um, it was it was close to about $50,000 in

[8:15] savings off that initial renewal. So, Blue Cross really came to the table this

[8:18] year and and provided really the best um, offer possible.

[8:24] Dental is getting a 4.1% increase. Now, I will say on the dental side, um,

[8:29] dollar amounts a lot smaller than medical. So, that 4% overall increase is

[8:34] only about $2,500 a year. As I mentioned earlier, the the plan is

[8:40] running favorable. Um, just to give you some insights, um, the most recent 12

[8:45] months is running at a 68% loss ratio. Um, now one caveat to that is that's

[8:52] before we account for what we call IBNR. So those are claims that likely

[8:56] incurred, you know, last month but haven't been paid until maybe this

[9:00] month, next month. So you got to account for that. And so um and then of course

[9:04] trend trend right now is anywhere from 8 to 10% in in the medical um space. So

[9:10] once you factor in those those two pieces, that's why the the renewal did

[9:14] come in at around a just under a 1% overall increase for next year.

[9:19] Also happy to to present the vision. Um you all moved to Blue Cross with their

[9:25] recent part partnership with IMED on the vision plan. That's under a four-year

[9:29] rate guarantee. So those rates are going to be locked for the next three years.

[9:32] Um so no increase on the vision side. And then also pleased to announce on all

[9:36] the ancillary benefits um there will be no rate changes, no benefit changes,

[9:41] carrier changes, um no changes on that side. The only one that would affect the

[9:46] commission or the county um would be the um accidental death and dismemberment.

[9:50] So that's going to stay flat for that. So when we budget that number won't

[9:54] change.

[10:04] » So if we move on to the next page on our handout, um this just really lays out

[10:09] your guys's current medical benefit plan. So we have the current plan on the

[10:13] lefth hand side um what the revised renewal came in at on the very right

[10:18] hand side. So this is just illustrating there's going to be no benefit changes.

[10:22] Um and then you can see the total premium amounts listed at the very

[10:25] bottom. Um if you look at the the bottom few rows, you can see the initial

[10:30] renewal came in at a $63,000 overall increase. The revised renewal with that

[10:35] concession came in at about a $14,000 total increase.

[10:49] So, as we look at the next few pages, there's going to be a lot of numbers on

[10:52] here, so bear with me for a little bit. Um, really, these are we we put together

[10:57] a handful of illustrations on how do we want to split out the the increase

[11:02] between employees and then the county. And so this first illustration uh on

[11:07] number one here um we have the current premiums and and what employees are

[11:12] contributing and what the county's contributing on the lefth hand side. On

[11:16] the right hand side of this exhibit you can see what the renewal um with the

[11:21] revised premiums are. Um and in this specific illustration we're showing no

[11:27] employee rate change on this exhibit. And so you can kind of see where I've

[11:31] boxed in on this slide. um indicating, you know, employee rates would would be

[11:36] staying the same. And then if you look at the very bottom kind of bottom right

[11:40] hand side, you'll see in that total premium column, a 14 um,000 total

[11:47] increase, employee rates just to the right of that with no annual increase.

[11:51] And then the county would be be picking up the full 14,156

[11:56] um in this first illustration.

[12:02] And so illustration two is to where is where we start to look at maybe some

[12:05] changes to the contribution structure. Again, you can see highlighted and boxed

[12:11] in the the employee rates. In this illustration, what we wanted to show was

[12:16] a slight increase on the $1,500 deductible and $2,500 deductible plans,

[12:24] but keeping that $3,500 deductible plan the same for employees. And so that's

[12:29] what this illustration is showing. Um, I'm a fan of this because it it it, you

[12:34] know, incentivizes members to maybe go to some of those higher deductible plans

[12:38] because we know that, you know, likely less than 20% of of individuals are

[12:42] actually hitting those deductibles. Um, and it's still to me what I'd consider a

[12:47] a a fair increase. And um, at the very bottom you can see what the total dollar

[12:53] amount split would be. and it's almost an even slip between what the employees

[12:56] would be picking up and then what the county would be picking up. So, to me,

[12:59] that seems like a fair kind of um contribution on on both the county and

[13:04] the employees.

[13:14] » So, on pa pages six and seven, um a couple more illustrations that we wanted

[13:21] to put together. And so these are all based on the percent that employees are

[13:25] paying of the total premium today. So if you look at where I kind of have that

[13:29] boxed in on the current side, just to give an example, an employee is paying

[13:34] 9.3% of the total premium amount in that $1,500 deductible plan.

[13:41] What this does is is looks at bumping that up to 10% and then 20% for the um

[13:48] employee plus tiers on that $1,500 plan. On the $2,500 plan, it shows employees

[13:56] paying 5% of total premium and then 15% on the employee spouse, children, and

[14:01] family tiers. And then on the last plan, the $3,500

[14:06] deductible plan, wanted to still keep that at zero dollars for employee only.

[14:11] Um, but it does bump up those employee plus tiers to a 10% of total premium.

[14:18] And then again, at the very bottom, you can see kind of the total breakout. Um,

[14:22] this would provide actually a little bit of savings to the county of about $1,600

[14:26] a year versus what you're paying today. And that's at that bottom right hand

[14:31] side on the chart.

[14:35] And then the last medical illustration is really kind of this a similar

[14:39] philosophy, but it's just a little bit um higher on the employee percent of

[14:44] total premium. So instead of 10%, we're showing 11. It it's essentially a

[14:48] percent higher on on on all the different tiers. And so you can see what

[14:52] that does at the very bottom right hand side um to to what the county's paying

[14:58] for health insurance. it'd be about a $13,000 decrease over current when we

[15:03] look at the county's portion. And so I'll I'll I'll pause there. I

[15:08] know there's a lot of numbers, a lot of different illustrations. Um any

[15:13] questions on um at least the medical contributions and and what we've shown

[15:18] today?

[15:24] Okay.

[15:31] So then we can move on to the dental. And so as I mentioned, the dental plan

[15:38] is getting about a 4% overall increase. It's about $2,500 annually. Um you can

[15:44] look at the premium amounts listed um on on this slide nine and you'll see a lot

[15:50] of these are only going up maybe a dollar, some few cents. Um, and so

[15:55] dental dental rates are staying pretty pretty relatively the same, but we do

[16:00] have a few different contribution illustrations on the dental side as well

[16:03] that I wanted to walk through.

[16:10] So the first contribution illustration on page 10, um, similar to the medical,

[16:15] um, wanted to show one illustration of keeping employee contributions the same

[16:19] as as it is today. Um, and so that would mean that the

[16:23] county will be picking up the full $2,500 annual increase.

[16:29] Option two, um, listed right below that is splitting the percent equally between

[16:35] the employees and the employer. And so it'd be about a 4% increase to the

[16:40] employees, a 4% increase to the county. Um, and if you look at the very bottom,

[16:46] you can see, um, employees would be would be picking up about $350.

[16:51] The county would be picking up 2,200 of that that $2,500 total increase.

[17:07] Page 12 looks at the third contribution illustration. And so what this one does

[17:12] is split the dollar amount in increase equally between the county and the

[17:16] employees. Um as you saw on that last that last slide, um splitting the

[17:21] percent increase was um because the dollar amounts are so low, it it's

[17:26] pretty minimal on the employees. This this one actually splits it dollar

[17:30] amount-wise equally to where you still have a zero dollar employee only option

[17:35] on that base plan, which is great. Um, but from a dollar amount wise, the

[17:41] employees would be picking up about $1,200 of the increase and then the

[17:44] county would be picking up the remaining 1,200. So, it's a pretty equal split um,

[17:48] dollar amount wise between the two.

[17:53] And then the last illustration we put together was this number four. And so

[17:59] what this does is essentially um does not increase what the county is

[18:04] contributing um at all while still maintaining that

[18:08] $0 base employee only amount. So it would keep the county's budget the same

[18:12] as it is today. Um that $2,500 increase would would fall onto the employees in

[18:18] this scenario.

[18:27] Any questions on the dental contributions?

[18:32] Okay.

[18:37] And so, um, the last piece, since a lot of the lines of coverage are are under

[18:42] guarantee or not changing, really, it's just focusing on the medical and dental,

[18:45] um, it would be our recommendation to to continue um, partnering with Blue Cross

[18:51] at that 1% overall increase. On the contribution side, we do have a

[18:56] recommendation of that that second illustration that equally split the

[19:00] increase between employees and the county. Um, obviously want that to be up

[19:05] for, you know, discussion, but I feel like that that was the one that was the

[19:08] most fair. It's typically what we see when we work with other employers is

[19:12] finding a way to split the cost, you know, equally between employees and the

[19:16] in the county or the employer. And then keeping that that similar

[19:21] philosophy, it would be that uh dental illustration number three that split the

[19:26] employee dollar amount increase equally between the employee and the county. Um

[19:31] I think it it shares that that same philosophy of hey, we're going to split

[19:35] this equally between us on the medical and dental side. So that that

[19:39] illustration three would be our recommendation as well.

[19:50] thoughts or questions or scenarios that you would like to see instead?

[20:01] » Not right now.

[20:21] No difference on the prescription plan within these?

[20:25] » No changes on the prescription plan. Um there will always be maybe some tweaks

[20:30] to Bluec Cross's formulary. They do that throughout the year, but we're not

[20:33] changing, you know, drug formularies or we're not, you know, changing the

[20:36] prescription co-pays or anything like that.

[20:48] Okay. Sorry. Back on page number three, just so I know. [clears throat]

[20:52] » Yep. >> Renewal and then you have revised

[20:55] renewal. So, what's the difference there?

[20:57] » Yeah. So, I just put that initial renewal on there just to illustrate

[21:01] where it was initially coming in at. So, that's where that's what Bluec Cross was

[21:06] initially trying to pass along for the increase. the revised renewals with the

[21:10] concession and and the final rates we have available today

[21:13] » that N8%.

[21:23] » Yeah, >> we're shooting for zero, but I mean 0.98

[21:27] is is pretty good. >> Yeah.

[21:40] Yeah, those are pretty incredible. >> Yeah, I mean I we're start it's renewal

[21:44] season right now, so we're starting to get a lot of these in and this is the

[21:47] first one I've been able to present that's in the single digits. So I was

[21:50] super happy. >> Well, I know others around [snorts] the

[21:52] county haven't been so fortunate. >> I know. So

[21:55] » yeah, >> we're we're seeing mo most people in

[21:58] that 10 to 15% range at a minimum. So, you know, under 1% is excellent.

[22:04] » And I do think Blue Cross and Blue Shield is best we can give for our

[22:08] employees. So, >> yeah.

[22:11] » Okay. We will be looking into that. >> Um, as far as the timeline goes, if we

[22:16] could get a decision maybe by the next commission meeting. That way we don't

[22:21] have to rush as much trying to get everything together for open enrollment

[22:25] and the health fair time to actually get the documents put together, the benefit

[22:30] booklets printed, etc. >> Um,

[22:33] » you'll be here before we know it. >> It would be helpful.

[22:35] » Open enrollment. >> I'm sorry. [clears throat]

[22:37] » Open enrollment >> is at the last week in October and it's

[22:41] going to go through that first Monday of November because I have a capers

[22:45] conference on Friday of that week. So, I want to make sure it's exactly five days

[22:48] for all the employees. Um, the health fair is I didn't bring my

[22:53] calendar. It's that Friday before open enrollment. I think it's the 23rd of

[22:56] October. >> I think that's right.

[23:02] » Yes.

[23:05] And then, yeah, by if we could make a decision by the next um commission

[23:09] meeting, it would give us time to even get the contracts and everything signed

[23:12] and in place before we print the booklets as well.

[23:16] change

[23:25] our budgets between now and next business or do you want it under the

[23:30] schedule of >> it would just be

[23:33] » yeah Nick wouldn't unless he really really wants to come back but it would

[23:37] just [laughter] be >> it's probably needed in some other

[23:39] counties that >> oh gosh

[23:41] » cities that don't have such good news. >> Yeah. He's told me some stories,

[23:46] » some horse. >> I'm like, wow. That's if you can

[23:49] imagine, it's even worse than what we had last year.

[23:52] » So, we are very, very blessed. So, >> all right.

[23:57] » Thanks. Thank you guys. >> Thank you very much.

[23:59] » Y

[24:03] » All right.

[24:06] Our county ambulance service

[24:13] Ditchie. >> So when got numbers

[24:17] » risen, how do you say your last name? >> Risac. R E I S.

[24:21] » R E I S S. >> It's not grass. There's only one.

[24:24] » I just want to make sure the newspaper gets it right today.

[24:28] » Um, so I went and got numbers. What I started with, I started with comparable

[24:33] what the Suburban was. Um those numbers will scare you. Uh a wag grant. So

[24:41] little preference. I I contacted all the dealerships in the county. The only one.

[24:46] » Can you go back and explain why we're doing this?

[24:48] » Okay. So the two 20 2012 Suburban that we had we've had since 2012.

[24:54] » Uh wasn't um we responded to a call of deer came

[24:58] out of a ditch, hit on the right front bumper. It broke off the airbag sensor

[25:02] and deployed every airbag in the truck. $3,000 worth of bumper and door damage,

[25:08] almost 12 to $13,000 worth of airbag damage. So, they totaled it. So,

[25:14] » so we're looking for a new a replacement.

[25:16] » A replacement. >> Insurance is going to help pay for this.

[25:19] » Um I think they gave us $5,000 because of the year on it. It wasn't

[25:26] very much. I think the whole I think our deductible on it was 5,000. So, I think

[25:31] we got 5,000. and it was like right at 10 counting tax and all that stuff. So

[25:36] anyway, um so I I contacted every dealership. Um Ford never even responded

[25:44] to me and I spoke to someone personally and gave him my cell phone number, which

[25:48] I don't give out regularly. Um they didn't even respond back with any kind

[25:52] of bid at all. um the Chevy dealership sent me a link

[25:56] to what they had on the lot um with some prefaces to like a pickup.

[26:02] I'm like, "Okay." I contacted Shields. Shields actually worked and um came up

[26:07] with numbers for me. In due diligence, I contacted Parks in Augusta, which is

[26:13] where the sheriff's office had bought Chevy pickups.

[26:17] » Um they were very actable, gave me pricing, too. So, I have pricing from

[26:21] both of those, but I wanted to give you kind of a rundown of where to be

[26:25] comparable and then where I was headed. Um, so a Grand Wagon Ear since Chevy did

[26:30] respon

[26:35] is like trying to find a unicorn um because of the state pricing and

[26:40] stuff. It's like if somebody has one, they won't release it and trying you're

[26:44] going to have to go personally go lot to lot to lot trying to find one.

[26:47] » Um, kind of the same way with the Ford stuff.

[26:50] Um, but they were able to give me pricing for a Grand Wagon Ear or they

[26:55] were not able to give me a Grand Wagon ear. All they gave me was for a

[26:57] Tradesman pickup and a Durango because that's what they had available to them.

[27:02] So, a trademan's pickup is the same as what the sheriff's office drives. Uh,

[27:06] the Durango are the same as what KHP drives to give you some

[27:13] visual in your head. Um, Shields went as far as to do comparable of what the

[27:18] Suburban would be. So, a Suburban, which would be the same size as a Grand Wagon

[27:22] Ear L, would be 69,500. If you go with a Grand Wagon Ear um just

[27:29] a plain Grand, not the L, that's a comparable to a Tahoe, which is 66,796.

[27:37] If we go down to a Tradesman, what they have is $49,59.

[27:45] Um, and then Durango. Um, they they don't have a Pursuit,

[27:50] which is exactly what, uh, KHP drives. Um, they are 41,693.

[27:56] They have one that's available right now, um, for 43. It's just, it's a

[28:01] little bit different. It's got a V6 in it and it's a the package is just like

[28:05] it's got electric seats in it. And that one there is 431 163.

[28:15] and parks which the only place that are comp that

[28:19] they're giving apples to apples or orange or whatever you put it are the

[28:22] tradesman truck on site at um parks is 51,518

[28:29] and the Durango is 44358. So you're talking

[28:34] » negligible money. Now here's where it gets worse

[28:40] » worse. >> But you love those words, right?

[28:43] So, I called KHP because they do they only run their vehicles to 50,000. So,

[28:49] for a 2024 uh Dodge Durango with 50,000 miles is $41,325.

[28:57] Now, the reason that is that way is because there is $8,000 worth of uh

[29:03] lighting system on the truck and a push guard.

[29:06] So, all these other ones with $50,000 meth will have almost a $10,000 upcharge

[29:12] to be able to put that and the graphics and all that stuff on. I just want to be

[29:15] very clear about why that is. Now, KHP with only 50,000 miles, you don't know

[29:20] how many hours that vehicle is set and ran. It could have hundreds of hours on

[29:24] it. So, in my opinion, it's easier to go with the newer the new one and then put

[29:31] the light system on it. I mean, I realize that raises the the Durango to

[29:37] somewhere around 55 both places. Um, and that also puts a push guard on the front

[29:42] of them >> and everything. I just

[29:45] » can you hit another deer? >> That's [laughter]

[29:49] or a possum. I mean, I hear you okay with the

[29:52] Durango. You don't >> Yes. Here's the problem. So, the

[29:57] » I give you the wagon ear stuff. Those are 90 days out from possibly even

[30:01] getting one. the trucks or the Durango, either one

[30:06] can be in this week. My personal opinion, I would rather have

[30:10] the Durango because we carry meds and I carry equipment and everything and being

[30:14] in one solid area and I can control the environment

[30:18] » is better than having the pickup. I'm not saying I can't do with the pickup,

[30:22] but the Durango makes more sense to me because I control everything

[30:26] » and it's cheaper. Well, I get that. But I I just the SUV

[30:31] means more to me than the pickup. I mean, yeah, in the end of it, I give it

[30:35] to Mike and he can do something with it. But I I have if I try to put stuff in

[30:38] the bed of it, I'm have to have a a box that tries to keep dust out, all that

[30:42] stuff. You know, my monitors cost $60,000. I'd really rather keep it

[30:46] someplace that is cleaner and that kind of stuff. Not that I can't keep it in

[30:49] the back seat, but if I throw somebody in there, then I got to move stuff out.

[30:53] That's the reason. There are no third rows in these Durango. So that area back

[30:58] there is my area to keep my equipment. So basically what I'm trying to say is

[31:04] um for a Dango it could be 55,000 and for a pickup it could be well

[31:10] depending on which one it is it could be 61,000. So you're of the two but the

[31:14] Dango to me makes more sense is where I would like to be with it. Now that the

[31:18] lighting system I could there might be a chance to depending on what console is

[31:21] in the Durango and who we get it from. There might be a difference uh for a box

[31:26] where I mount my radios might go down. It just all depends on and it's

[31:30] availability of what how they come. So I just want to give you worst case

[31:34] scenario then and maybe come back less. And when you look at it Shields is I

[31:41] mean it's local >> cheaper.

[31:43] » Um let's see. >> Yeah, just a little bit. I mean, they're

[31:47] they're within 500. >> Can they do all the work that you need

[31:49] to add all the >> So, they can put the bumpers on them.

[31:51] Now, the rad the lighting system, I'll have that. I have a lighting guy that'll

[31:54] put all that stuff in. Um, and then the the striping, I contacted a kid that

[31:58] used to work for me out of Kansas City. He does he does the sheriff's vehicles.

[32:02] I mean, it's the same guy. It's Jake Nagel Road.

[32:05] » I mean, it's better to do it local, too. I think

[32:07] » yeah I wanted I would like I mean I realize that parks is a little bit on

[32:12] some things are a little bit cheaper but then keeping the money in the county and

[32:14] keeping it local for everybody is kind of what I'm going to do and I know that

[32:18] you can't compare the two Durango identical because they don't have

[32:22] pursuit but it's >> but it's in my mind it's negligible I

[32:25] mean I know it's five or $600 it's not negligible my wife size when it comes to

[32:28] my checkbook but >> I was just gonna ask

[32:33] » so >> yeah so I'm looking said, let's see,

[32:37] where's the shield one? >> Yeah, I'd say 55 is pretty close to

[32:42] where it would be. Somewhere around in there. So, and

[32:46] » lighting plus all the lighting. >> That's the lighting. With the lighting

[32:48] with the lighting. Yeah, because the Durango itself is 43.

[32:52] » And if you I was just saying 10. So, 55 would be worst case scenario.

[32:56] » And Scott said that he could have it this week.

[32:59] » I mean, I think he's got that he might even have that one on the lot.

[33:02] » Sounds great. So, I'll get with him and we'll get everything done and then I'll

[33:07] have him once we get everything paid for I'll

[33:10] » Yeah, I don't know what do we know like what year it is.

[33:13] » Um, the Durango he's looking at is either a

[33:16] » Hold on, I'll tell you. >> I've got so many pieces of paper here.

[33:21] This is a truly a uh eye openening experience for me with trying to deal

[33:25] with people that you'd think one would want to sell you something. Um,

[33:30] where's these big paper?

[33:35] Too many papers. >> Let's see. That Durango is a Oh, he

[33:41] didn't put the year on there. I think it's a 26. He said Oh, I know it's a 26.

[33:45] He was going to do I think it's 26 or 27 pricing, but he said 26 is probably

[33:50] where it's at in case it needed to come down. So,

[33:52] » okay. That's new. >> Yeah, it's brand new.

[33:55] » Okay. We were just checking our funds to make

[33:59] sure we got enough money here. >> Oh, I appreciate that.

[34:02] » We do. So, glad we could do it and glad you can do

[34:07] it local. So, >> yeah.

[34:10] » And as I was telling you earlier yesterday, we had a little incident. We

[34:13] blew a motor, I think, in in an ambulance with 113,000 miles. But

[34:18] » I don't know if I'm coming back to that. I just It's not quite the same thing as

[34:22] asking you, but I just want you >> Shouldn't have brought that up, Richard.

[34:25] Huh? Shouldn't have brought that up. >> I know. Well, it's it's a sore subject

[34:28] for me, too. [laughter] >> I'll [clears throat and snorts] make a

[34:30] motion to hospital ambulance service to use $55,000 to

[34:38] purchase a new out of the ambulance >> 255

[34:43] » 55,000 >> out of 390 the ambulance sales tax fund.

[34:48] » Okay. Anything else you need from me? >> I'll second it. Any more discussion?

[34:52] » All those in favor? >> I. Motion carried.

[34:55] » Thank you. >> Thanks. Again, no change from last

[34:58] meeting. The 2.35 is what we want for 2027. And doing that in two installments

[35:04] rather than like we've done the last couple years where we needed it all up

[35:07] front. Little better shape. So to do the two installments,

[35:28] So, this is a 2027 or 26 >> 26

[35:33] » 26 >> 27 price.

[35:37] [clears throat] >> I just want to make sure I got it right.

[35:39] » Yeah. >> All right. So, now we're ready for

[35:42] department heads. Gabby, thanks for joining us.

[35:46] » Yes.

[35:49] Um, I would like to call an executive session for our non-elected personnel,

[35:54] please. Okay, I'll move to recess into executive

[35:58] session to discuss personal matters of non-elected personnel regarding the

[36:01] treasures department for >> how long?

[36:04] » Um, I would say 10 minutes. >> 10 minutes to include commission,

[36:07] council, and county treasure. And we'll come back at

[36:13] 145. >> I'll second the motion.

[36:16] » All those in favor? I >> I motion carry.

[36:19] » Thank you.

[46:20] We're back in session and no action was taken.

[46:25] Okay. So, I've got some department updates. Um, I wanted to give you an

[46:30] update for the BFA, the budgetary fund accounting clean process. Um, I want to

[46:35] start with an update. Uh all accounts with the exception of payroll and home

[46:40] state bank which is our main bank have been completely corrected, reconciled,

[46:44] balanced and brought up to date. We are expecting to have all period 13

[46:48] corrections for the remaining two accounts um completed by the end of

[46:53] September which those once those are finished uh we'll be able to move

[46:56] forward with the 2025 audit. And then the cleanup has included but not limited

[47:02] to the researching and correcting outstanding deposits, correcting

[47:07] duplicate entries and incorrect entries, investigating errors, discrepancies, and

[47:12] other issues that have affected the balances and also documenting all of

[47:16] this as well. Um, and reviewing funds to determine why they're long or short and

[47:22] make the appropriate corrections. Uh, one issue that has come to our

[47:27] attention during this process involves some of the distribution funds. Um,

[47:31] distribution funds should bounce back to zero after every distribution.

[47:36] And a majority of the issues we're finding in these appear to be data entry

[47:40] errors that created either a long or short balance. So a check that was cut

[47:44] to one of the entities was a penny long or a penny short or two pennies or you

[47:49] know um so uh we are currently working through those to get them corrected and

[47:56] properly balanced. And then on the subject of distribution

[48:02] funds there's the Turkey Creek whed number 103.

[48:07] Um, Neossha receives money from Wilson County for the shared watershed.

[48:13] The money received from Wilson County is being receded appropriately. However,

[48:18] uh, I we found that Wilson County's portion has not been distributed since

[48:22] 2018. So, the current amount in the fund is

[48:26] approximately $175,76.79.

[48:31] and that amount is owed to um Turkey Creek number 103 watershed.

[48:37] I have spoken with our software team on how to correct this. I was advised that

[48:42] the payout will require manual entries in our system so the money can be

[48:47] properly distributed by the um appropriate categories such as

[48:51] delinquent real estate, motor vehicle, uh RV,

[48:56] um personal property, all that. Uh because those details have to be

[49:01] manually entered. This will take some time to complete because I have to

[49:04] figure out what was motor vehicle prior to me. I've saved all of my distribution

[49:09] um remittance advices for Wilson County. So I'll have to figure out the ones

[49:14] prior to me and um yeah, so I was going to take a minute

[49:21] [clears throat] and uh but I do want you to be aware of

[49:25] it and I want you to know that I'm working through that and I will get that

[49:27] to them. So, is this a watershed that's like in both counties that we collect

[49:31] all of the property tax? >> Yes, ma'am. We are the collectors of it

[49:35] and then we distribute Wilson County's portion and what we receive as well with

[49:40] our taxes >> and they haven't requested it prior to

[49:45] » um >> it was not brought to their attention.

[49:47] » Yeah, it this I don't think this was something that was known because when I

[49:51] first started I didn't know it either. Um, I didn't know it was supposed to I

[49:56] receded it in um as it has always historically been done, but um I I

[50:03] didn't know either. So, I don't know that the previous person knew,

[50:07] but um I've >> You think they'd be looking for their

[50:10] revenue? >> Yeah. Yeah.

[50:12] » Yeah. which they they receive um a pretty good portion from us by itself.

[50:18] But um but yeah, I don't know that they know,

[50:23] you know, there's a lot of um moving around and different, you know, new

[50:28] people and positions and stuff. So, a lot of information and and knowledge uh

[50:32] kind of get lost about things as people um positions are just being filled.

[50:41] Uh just having come in this first year doing budget with us at the county. So

[50:47] this is when we started doing the look into why things were missing as well.

[50:53] » So >> yep.

[50:57] » Yes. Um and then I also wanted to talk about the special highway. It is a it is

[51:03] showing negative in our books. Um I do understand that

[51:15] I'm not I've never seen so when I've researched this um based on the research

[51:21] I've completed so far the highway quarterly and the highway equalization

[51:25] monies received by the state have been receded into the R&B equalization fund

[51:29] instead of the special highway. Um, at this point I would just like the

[51:34] commission to um help me determine the uh

[51:41] if if you'd like a transfer made and where is that transfer coming from and

[51:46] um how you would like for me to receive in that highway money moving forward

[51:50] because there's two different highway monies.

[51:54] » Do you know what the total was like for last year?

[51:58] » Um I did not bring last year's. I brought this year's year's. Okay. Yes.

[52:02] For special highway. >> Huh?

[52:03] » For special highway. >> Yes.

[52:05] » Okay. Uh for special highway, it is negative 32,000.

[52:09] » Oh, no. I know that. >> Oh,

[52:12] » I'm sorry. How much did we did you receipt in for those? You said you

[52:17] received income. >> Um, yes. I didn't bring

[52:23] I brought a couple >> because I believe there's about 150,000

[52:29] from the state, but then there's also federal.

[52:33] » Yeah. Which that it back in the day I found some that were labeled

[52:39] what you just said.

[52:45] Well, yeah. So, the special highway was

[52:50] receiving federal fund exchange in 22, but that's the last time I see

[52:56] anything stating that in the 106. So, nothing has been

[53:02] this. >> Do you know what that amount was?

[53:05] » Um, that was $110,45527

[53:11] and that was receded in uh June 27, 2022.

[53:20] But we are not receiving that anymore. Um, I also see

[53:26] » Are you sure we're not? >> Well, I I have a system that I use for

[53:33] just making sure I've receeded everything and that we get AC wise from

[53:37] the state. There's an eupplier account for me to go look on and I try to um

[53:42] look on it the beginning, the middle, and the end of the month. And then um I

[53:46] cross off each one I receive in when I see it. So I have a system with the

[53:51] states with what the state is sending us. And I um can confidently say I'm

[53:57] receiving all of that in there. >> Usually around November 1st of December,

[54:02] we usually receive >> 150,000.

[54:08] » Um okay. I can look for that for last year.

[54:13] November depends on when it gets receded in.

[54:17] » So this is the way we used to handle special highway. Thanks to we don't do

[54:22] this anymore. >> Um so we would receive that into special

[54:27] highway number 106 account. Okay. And then when we did our chip and seal for

[54:31] the oil and the chip and such, we would take that expense out of there.

[54:35] » Right. But we decided it was voted on that we'll just take it out of general

[54:40] operation of road and bridge and so that's why it got receded into the other

[54:44] revenue account. >> Gotcha.

[54:46] » And so now when we do chip and seal we just take it out of operations.

[54:51] So somewhere in that change somehow some expense got put into

[54:58] special highway. Well, we at that time we were trying to thin down account

[55:02] numbers too, so we didn't have so many. >> I preferred do the old way because now

[55:09] he has an expense that he doesn't have a credit for. It's just increases the

[55:14] revenue, but yet now our expense increased by that chip and seal price,

[55:18] which is about $150,000 that used to come out of a separate

[55:22] fund. So again, that's an increase in road and bridge that they

[55:29] didn't get a budget increase for. >> Yeah.

[55:32] » But that's my opinion. >> Well, but we were supposed to be putting

[55:35] it back into his budget to offset that expense, too.

[55:39] » But it's not on the expense side. It's in the revenue. So then it doesn't

[55:42] offset it really. He doesn't he's got $150,000 less to spend because that's

[55:48] coming out of operations now.

[55:53] It's not really your worry, but >> we would need we just need to see. So,

[55:59] » yeah. >> Yeah.

[56:01] » Do you get notice of those funds, Mike, when they come in?

[56:05] » Yeah. As far as I know, we've been getting

[56:09] them every year. They have went down a little bit and this year they're going

[56:13] to go back up. >> Oh, really?

[56:14] » For whatever reason. >> Okay. Well, I

[56:17] » So, probably we just need to let Gabby know and then she can look for an exact

[56:21] amount if you get that. >> Yeah. And I'll go back and look at 24 uh

[56:25] 25 >> because I that would have been receded

[56:28] in. I just >> I received in so much stuff it's hard

[56:31] for me to kind of keep track of all that. [clears throat] So, at least right

[56:34] now >> Jessica and ask her to look that up

[56:36] because >> Oh, thank you.

[56:37] » We're in the process right now of submitting our

[56:42] » our expenses reimbured for that. But it'll take a

[56:47] month or two before they send us. >> Oh, okay.

[56:52] » I'll be looking for it >> for clarity. Actually, we talked about

[56:54] this in our work our budget session of getting these accounts cleared up for

[56:58] 25. I think we're just going to transfer money out of the pilot fund to clear off

[57:03] that 32,000 and let Linda do the 13th month for 25

[57:09] to get these accounts cleared up. And then if we could

[57:16] figure out that difference. It would help with our cash forward in Road and

[57:22] Bridge if we put it in there or if we're going to put it in special highway, then

[57:27] we can do our expense of the chip and seal that we're doing right now. Take it

[57:31] out of there. So,

[57:33] » and I do have on here there are credits within your operation

[57:40] account shared. So, I mean, you've got your debits and your credits all in one

[57:44] funding. >> Okay. But are any of those then

[57:49] » the federal exchange? >> Yeah,

[57:52] » there was one of them in or two of them in December on K dots

[58:06] project.

[58:11] Oh yeah, the bridge I think. >> Yeah, that's probably I was going to say

[58:15] we've got other K dot. >> Yeah,

[58:18] » that wouldn't be going into operations. >> Well,

[58:26] how much was that one? >> Bridge inspection

[58:32] 10,54560.

[58:36] » Yeah, that's not a part of this. And then there's a project here in the

[58:41] amount of credit,

[58:47] 520.

[59:01] And this was in 25 or is this this year? No,

[59:06] » this is in 25. I was looking

[59:16] for this. Oh, that would

[59:30] balance. So, it can't do that.

[59:40] In time, we'll probably figure it out. >> Okay. So, for now, we'll just

[59:44] » together some more information. Um, so actually on our 2025, the special

[59:50] highway and the special bridge is in the negative. So, we're going to make some

[59:54] transfers today to take care of that from the pilot fund. And if we figure

[1:00:01] out then that there is money somewhere else, we can just transfer that money

[1:00:06] back into the pilot fund. But we really just want to get 25

[1:00:12] kind of cleared up, >> right?

[1:00:15] » Yeah.

[1:00:21] » So, if you don't want the There is another fund here. It's a

[1:00:26] credit account reimbursement in bridge. Is that where you want that receipt?

[1:00:35] It depends on where we take the expense out

[1:00:40] if we continue to take it out of operations. Yeah. That reimbursement

[1:00:43] account which we haven't used yet this year, have we?

[1:00:47] » No. Last time it was used. >> Okay.

[1:00:56] So yes, that has the effect that gives us a credit

[1:01:01] for those operations. That's >> because when I go to enter it into the

[1:01:04] budget, I'm just going off of the whole number. I'm not putting a credit or a

[1:01:07] debit. It's just the

[1:01:13] » I mean that never takes care of all of Chip and Seal. It's just

[1:01:16] » Yeah. >> most of it. Well, it's

[1:01:24] the receding in part. Do you just want to keep it the same or

[1:01:30] cuz right now I'm putting it into the R&B equalization.

[1:01:34] Um but then we have that special highway fund which we'll we'll clean that up

[1:01:38] with the transfer.

[1:01:43] Um,

[1:01:46] » but then >> yeah, you're the one that changed.

[1:01:49] » I know. I just like it going back in and reimbursing into the budget. I know it's

[1:01:54] expense, overall expenses. >> So, the equalization is revenue up

[1:01:59] above. So, the bottom line with with road and

[1:02:03] bridge on how much mill levy there is, that's fine. But as far as operations

[1:02:09] and staying within his budget as far as expenses, it needs to be down below like

[1:02:14] in the reimbursement >> or just a credit on operations. But

[1:02:18] » it'd be easier to see if we use the reimbursement.

[1:02:21] » But one of those so that it's on in the revenue but down below in the expenses

[1:02:25] and actually giving him a credit >> because that's basically what we were

[1:02:29] doing in special high. >> Well, it's kind of like we're doing on

[1:02:31] the unofficial detours. He's paying for the

[1:02:36] kids and we're reimbursing all the KO off funds. Same

[1:02:41] » same thing. >> Same thing. Yeah.

[1:02:43] » Or like when we get a culvert, you know, we

[1:02:45] » that shouldn't go up above in the revenue because

[1:02:48] » right >> that's an expense for us. It's a expense

[1:02:51] we're passing on. So we want that credit to be down below so that he still has

[1:02:57] the same amount of operating expense to work with. It shouldn't matter how many

[1:03:02] culverts we put in.

[1:03:08] Yeah. I'm trying to remember what the coverts are receded into.

[1:03:12] » Well, I think they've been taken out of oper or put back into operations.

[1:03:16] » Oh, right. Yes. Yeah, >> that one is.

[1:03:19] » Yeah. So, I guess the receipt into an expense line. Do you want it in the

[1:03:24] operations?

[1:03:28] » Yeah. >> Just like we're showing we're spending

[1:03:31] this reimbursement back as revenue. Well, the other one that I was talking

[1:03:34] about that will reimburse the credit >> uh that is an expenditure line.

[1:03:39] » It's a credit. So, it'll show separate. [clears throat] We'll see how much

[1:03:42] credit we get then >> compared to just putting in operations.

[1:03:46] We just get, you know, an expense for operations where this would actually

[1:03:50] show where the credit is and we can say, "Oh, there's $150,000

[1:03:55] and know that that got receded." Mhm. >> So, probably in that reimbursement would

[1:04:01] be fine with me. I think it'd be easier to keep track of and Mike can see what

[1:04:06] credits we have there

[1:04:11] because then on his budget it'll have those two expenses in reimbursement and

[1:04:15] that would give his total for expenses with a credit. So,

[1:04:21] » okay. So, I'll just start receing it into the reimbursement fund then

[1:04:25] » give that account number. Okay. >> Oh, thank you.

[1:04:29] » Well, I appreciate you. Thank you.

[1:04:34] » Okay. So, we've got that.

[1:04:39] Now, for the uh the county bank accounts. So, um, we currently have 14

[1:04:46] bank accounts and, uh, based on my review, I believe at least eight of

[1:04:50] those accounts could be, um, closed or the funds could be invested instead of

[1:04:56] continuing, uh, sitting in a separate bank account. Thank you so much.

[1:05:01] » Don't worry. Some of the the organizations that came to CIC

[1:05:04] [laughter] had a hundred checking accounts.

[1:05:07] » That's crazy. >> And they're like, "Yeah, we operate like

[1:05:11] that." I'm like, "Okay, >> okay.

[1:05:13] » We're doing good, [laughter] but we could have fewer."

[1:05:16] » Yes, agreed. >> Um, so four are currently sitting

[1:05:22] without earning interest. One receives CD interest only and then one receives

[1:05:28] both CD and bank interest and then um two receive bank interest only. out of

[1:05:35] those eight accounts that I think could potentially be closed. Um, we regularly

[1:05:40] use only four of the 14 accounts. Uh, for the remaining accounts,

[1:05:45] um, I'd like to discuss whether we could

[1:05:48] still make sense to keep those open, which there's one. Yeah. Uh, one option

[1:05:54] would be to transfer the funds from the account that are no longer needed in the

[1:05:57] county's main bank account and then close those accounts. Other options

[1:06:01] would be to invest the available funds where approp where it's appropriate. So

[1:06:05] the money is earning interest instead of simply sitting in an account.

[1:06:10] » Thought we cleaned all those up.

[1:06:15] » Still got more. So

[1:06:19] » you know how I was pushed for re >> my question is I mean why do we have

[1:06:25] these accounts? Is there can you think of anything from

[1:06:29] the past that we would have like an accountant exchange?

[1:06:32] » Um I can give you I I don't have the exchange.

[1:06:37] Some of them have a name underneath and uh exchange state bank and community

[1:06:42] national. They don't list a specific name for what it was used for. Um there

[1:06:47] is a bank of commerce one that that stands at $1,855.40.

[1:06:54] um consistently. It doesn't change and it hasn't for years. Um

[1:07:01] that one doesn't have a name. It's just an account. Um we also have a microloan

[1:07:08] account that acrews interest quarterly. >> CBDG loan that's been handed for 12

[1:07:15] years. I think >> well so there is a CDBG. Nothing happens

[1:07:19] in this account and it is sitting at $810,238.73

[1:07:26] and it's just sitting there. But that one is named the CDBG.

[1:07:32] » Uh yeah, 810,238.73.

[1:07:40] I kind of thought when we first got the first um co money sparks

[1:07:45] » that one of the things that we had to do was to spend our

[1:07:50] CDBG I think not the micro but I think the C we had to spend that money before

[1:07:54] we can spend the sparks and so I thought that we had Melanie would know

[1:08:00] » you don't remember

[1:08:03] » but I don't know how you can have $800,000 because I thought it was more

[1:08:07] like 50,000 >> is the interest bearing.

[1:08:11] » It is not. It's just sitting there.

[1:08:18] Um, we also have a bank of most of these are Bank of Commerce, but there's

[1:08:22] another one, Bank of Commerce. It's uh labeled as Stark Bank. That one is a CD

[1:08:27] interest only um by AC and it's sitting at $91,722.118.

[1:08:38] And then there's the FSA flex spending. Nothing happens in this account and it's

[1:08:43] sitting at $5,73.31.

[1:08:47] There's an HAS savings account. Nothing happens in this account and it's sitting

[1:08:52] at $7,379.74.

[1:08:56] And then Community National Bank and Trust uh CD and bank interest go in

[1:09:01] here. And that account is sitting at $159,000.

[1:09:06] Excuse me. $159,476.78

[1:09:12] » and then >> request a copy of those.

[1:09:14] » Yes. >> Yes, of course. I want to copy that.

[1:09:18] » Yes. No problem. >> Take

[1:09:21] out >> when it was initiated from the bank.

[1:09:26] » Okay. >> And any activity last activity dates on

[1:09:30] all those accounts, >> please.

[1:09:33] » Okay. Yes. because I thought we had already moved all those funds.

[1:09:39] » I can tell you >> in what we have from here for 2025 is

[1:09:46] only $5,000. So, >> and it's CIC.

[1:09:52] » Yeah, that's CIC. >> So, they're saying 800,000 and you're

[1:09:54] saying 5,000? >> Yeah.

[1:09:56] » Well, there's a CDBG in there that because I have to balance to that and it

[1:10:01] is balance. >> What? Michael and whatever that we

[1:10:06] » we could never collect or those were the last collection mounts that were

[1:10:10] » ever put in there and never back up. >> I'm sure we had to spend those before we

[1:10:14] could spend sparks. >> Yeah. Well,

[1:10:17] » if there Yeah. Well, in the um Exchange State

[1:10:22] Bank, that's bank interest only and that's sitting at $171,148.93.

[1:10:29] So, um I do know Community National Bank and Trust and ESB, uh nothing, which

[1:10:36] I'll get those, but nothing had been done with those accounts for a really

[1:10:40] long time because they had prior prior prior elected officials on the bank

[1:10:46] accounts. So, nothing had been done for a really long time.

[1:10:50] » Well, I know the one CD was 40 years old that I drew a bit about, we were getting

[1:10:56] 1%. So, >> yeah. Yeah.

[1:11:00] So my question is I guess why would we have these accounts at the different

[1:11:04] banks? Are we insured for only getting so much at the bank where like we have

[1:11:08] our main money? Did they >> that part of our reassignment of

[1:11:13] interest is they had to be credited and leveraged to cover all accounts within

[1:11:18] our bank. So

[1:11:24] » that was when we bid out that process. They had to be able to iate financial

[1:11:30] backing and insurance to cover all accounts.

[1:11:34] » What was that the last part? >> They had to be insured to cover all our

[1:11:38] accounts. >> Yes.

[1:11:40] » Key bills or whatever else they're going to put back to back every amount we have

[1:11:45] in the bank. >> Yeah.

[1:11:47] » Probably most of them quite a bit more than that just to ensure the phone bank.

[1:11:53] » Yeah.

[1:11:56] » So >> if you can

[1:11:58] would like to see that list. >> Yeah, of course I can get that to you.

[1:12:02] » We need to start combining and closing. I'm all for that. It's it's a nightmare

[1:12:06] for you to try to >> reconcile those bank statements every

[1:12:11] need when we're not operating. >> Yes. Yeah. It's it's a lot to keep track

[1:12:16] of on top of all the extra stuff the state is also putting on. I mean,

[1:12:20] they've um they've got a lot to add to the plate recently, too. So, um anything

[1:12:26] helps, I think. But predecessor was supposed to have all this done before. I

[1:12:31] thought that was all taken care of. >> No. And I can um I can definitely get

[1:12:36] you the whatever you need. I will I'll give it to you. So, I don't have online

[1:12:43] access to Community National or um Exchange State Bank. So those things I

[1:12:49] have to wait for the statement to come and then I can also call the I've called

[1:12:53] the bank before >> if we need to make minutes to where

[1:12:56] you're accessible to them. I don't we need to get a motion ready

[1:13:01] for every account so we can substantiate so

[1:13:04] » yeah and if we're going to close I'm not sure

[1:13:09] I think if I call the bank they would give me whatever I requested and then I

[1:13:13] can share it with you. Um, I don't know that we could we necessarily would be

[1:13:17] the right time to put me on there as view only, especially if we're going to

[1:13:20] get rid of them. I don't want to >> Well, not not that. Just so they put you

[1:13:25] to where you can actually look access. You could have a status with them.

[1:13:30] » Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. >> It'll get so much online. If you're

[1:13:33] talking about years of back the last time it was active, it's not going to be

[1:13:38] online. >> That Yes. So,

[1:13:40] » you're going to communicate. They don't say, "Well, we're not on the account.

[1:13:43] We're not talking. >> Yeah. Yeah.

[1:13:45] » Yeah. >> Um

[1:13:45] » call Nick and he'll verify that. >> Okay. [laughter]

[1:13:49] » Yeah. Well, the Bank of Commerce only allows me to see electronically back to

[1:13:53] uh 2023. So, I I have to request Yes. I have to request a CD from them and they

[1:14:01] usually will upload it. Um >> and it kind of depends if it costs or

[1:14:06] not. Um so >> what's costing us a lot of money for

[1:14:12] set? >> Yeah. No C no interest.

[1:14:16] » Yeah. A majority of them they are not acrewing interest and some of them are

[1:14:20] and it just kind of varies with CD or just bank interest or both. There's only

[1:14:25] one account that has both CD and bank interest going into it. So,

[1:14:31] um, so I at least just wanted to put that out there and then we can always

[1:14:35] discuss it later, too. Or if you have questions or ideas you want to bounce

[1:14:39] off me later, I'm, uh, more than happy to talk about it and figure it out. So,

[1:14:45] I at least just wanted to get it out there so you all know what it looks

[1:14:48] like. >> It'd be also nice to they should be able

[1:14:50] to take your EIN number and go to every account within their bank and make sure

[1:14:55] there's nothing

[1:15:00] Yeah, I don't know if I can do that. >> Never know.

[1:15:04] » Yeah.

[1:15:08] » Um Okay. So, and then I also just wanted to

[1:15:11] throw out there the jail construction. Um I understand that uh it was the money

[1:15:16] that's left in jail construction is from sales tax um when it was being collected

[1:15:20] for the jail um building repairs. There is $72,616.93

[1:15:28] sitting there. So, I at least just wanted to let you know there are funds

[1:15:32] um for that. And uh >> repairs coming up.

[1:15:36] » Yeah. >> Yes.

[1:15:36] » What did you say? >> We have repairs coming up. We'll use

[1:15:39] that money. >> Oh, yeah. Perfect.

[1:15:40] » We can use it. >> Jim always left it there just Well,

[1:15:44] we're always going to fix the roof. >> We had to Well, we fixed the roof once

[1:15:50] » anyway. Okay. Yes. It'll last [laughter] 10 years.

[1:15:57] » Okay. So, um the next one would be the health department transfers. Uh I

[1:16:02] believe some transfers need to be done within the the bank accounts. So,

[1:16:08] um I think there should be a transfer associated with this account when

[1:16:12] accounts payable disperses payments for that department um to the to get the

[1:16:17] account balance to the health department to balance with the health department

[1:16:21] fund. uh the initial transfer would need to go into the county's main account

[1:16:25] because the main account is what has been covering the accounts payable

[1:16:29] expenses. So uh once that initial transfer is

[1:16:32] complete, the bank balance and ledger can be brought into alignment and then

[1:16:36] just moving forward, I would uh complete a transfer when I need to from health

[1:16:41] department account to the AP account to cover that department's uh

[1:16:45] dispersements. Um, and then this would keep the bank activity and the ledger

[1:16:49] activity matched instead of allowing the balance to continue accumulating here

[1:16:54] and going down here. So, >> so right now probably the grants require

[1:17:00] a separate checking account. So, the health department has a checking

[1:17:02] account, but all the checks are coming out of our normal

[1:17:05] » right >> account that we take AP from and there's

[1:17:08] never been a transfer for those expenses from the health to the regular.

[1:17:13] » So, there I know. Uh yes. Um and of course I didn't write that one down.

[1:17:21] That one was like 1.8 million. >> So

[1:17:26] » that included the um pay grant payment like fuel

[1:17:33] » if it's being paid out. >> Yeah. We've been paying all the bills

[1:17:36] and not taking the money back. >> Well, no payroll.

[1:17:38] » Yeah. Yeah. >> So, anything in the fund that is

[1:17:41] » maybe for previous years, but currently the grants are not paying for payroll.

[1:17:46] » Yeah. There's one individual that is strictly supposed to be granting, but I

[1:17:50] think it's still coming out of the county.

[1:17:54] » So, once she gets that transfer done, it'll cover it. So, okay. I just want to

[1:17:57] make sure that was included. >> Yeah. No, no, you're fine. I will just

[1:18:02] uh transfer the I will get the I didn't get the number. I was in a rush. I

[1:18:07] didn't get the number of what the difference was uh between what the

[1:18:10] account and the ledger is. Um but of course I would just transfer the

[1:18:16] difference into the main bank account. So then that way the bank account of

[1:18:20] health department matches their fund and then every time we have uh accounts

[1:18:25] payable um for their bills and such because the grants go towards things

[1:18:30] like that. I think it would be appropriate to transfer health

[1:18:33] department to AP instead of going to uh Home State Bank, our main account, and

[1:18:38] then to AP. >> Sure.

[1:18:40] » On your checklist of one more thing. >> I know. Yeah. [laughter]

[1:18:44] But I want things clean and orderly and organized.

[1:18:48] » Well, yeah. I mean, it means you better write checks out of the health

[1:18:52] department. >> Yeah. And I think it would be easier to

[1:18:55] transfer. Just my opinion. [laughter] I I would prefer that if if I can

[1:18:59] request that. So >> yeah, and then we probably just need to

[1:19:03] look into payroll because payroll would be separate.

[1:19:06] » So in years past >> um

[1:19:10] » yeah, the grants were supposed to cover payroll.

[1:19:13] » Yes. >> Currently, I'm not for sure how many are

[1:19:16] actually still being covered. You'd have to look at the grant

[1:19:21] » one for sure. >> There's possible that there's another

[1:19:24] one under WIC, but I don't know. A few years ago, it used to be everyone got

[1:19:29] » most of their >> I don't I don't think it's that way.

[1:19:35] » Okay. >> And we can always come up with something

[1:19:37] that will work because I don't want to make your job harder either by

[1:19:41] » Okay. >> And it would be like because I have one

[1:19:44] of them already separated out as grant salary or salary. Okay.

[1:19:49] » So that one specifically, you know, every pay what that amount was.

[1:19:53] » Okay. because it's set to those fund lines that are already set up. So all we

[1:19:56] got to do on APM payroll is that report and that gives you a flat dollar amount

[1:20:02] right at the check. >> That would be awesome. I would really

[1:20:05] appreciate that. And then we kind of know what what uh just keeping it

[1:20:09] straight and balanced is my goal. >> Cleaning up the past. It's just going to

[1:20:13] be a matter of the funds from one checking account to the other going

[1:20:17] forward. Then we'll have a record of whether it's payroll or whatever for the

[1:20:22] grant. So >> yes. Yes.

[1:20:24] » But I think we we need to include that because that's a large payroll on one. I

[1:20:30] don't know about the other. So [clears throat]

[1:20:31] » yeah. So if you guys are comfortable with that um then I can make the initial

[1:20:36] transfer. I asked the bank account and of course I can give you the number

[1:20:39] before it's even said and done. Um but I did ask the bank how we would go about

[1:20:43] that and they would just uh initiate the transfer um with the individuals on the

[1:20:48] signature cards currently. So um we would just have to go up there sign a

[1:20:52] card saying that we want to transfer this to that and then it's done and then

[1:20:56] of course I can do I I will document it in the CIC so that way you can see it.

[1:21:02] » Could we not just write a check from the health department to the county?

[1:21:06] » Yes. >> You wouldn't have to the bank involved

[1:21:08] in it? >> I don't know. Whatever. large something

[1:21:11] like that in large is it >> it's what what did you say

[1:21:15] » probably better for the bank electronic members

[1:21:20] » well an in CIC isn't um set up for me to write checks from the health department

[1:21:28] so I'll have to get with CIC to do that first and so that's why I was just going

[1:21:32] to initiate the first one and then moving forward okay yeah and then I can

[1:21:36] just write the checks uh to from the health department to our Yes.

[1:21:42] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[1:21:44] » Just put in the transfer. Okay. >> Yes. So, if you're good with that, then

[1:21:47] um we can initiate the transfer and uh I'll also give you all the details

[1:21:52] before that happens so you know what's going on.

[1:21:56] » Um >> cuz I know I had access to all those

[1:21:59] cameras. I thought >> you thought

[1:22:02] » I thought I had all the [laughter]

[1:22:07] » a year ago. >> Oh, no. three.

[1:22:12] [snorts] >> Yeah.

[1:22:13] » Okay. >> Okay.

[1:22:15] » But we're learning more. >> Yes.

[1:22:17] » And I appreciate Linda Smith is helping out with this a lot.

[1:22:20] » Yeah. Yeah. She is wonderful. She's doing great. And um honestly, I couldn't

[1:22:26] have gotten this far without her. So, I have so much on my plate already and and

[1:22:30] she's stepped up and helped me with a lot of things and also taught me a lot

[1:22:33] of things and is continues to teach me things. So, I really appreciate my time

[1:22:38] with her and I appreciate you guys for um being open and okay with that. So,

[1:22:44] and doing what you can to help our department.

[1:22:47] » What' you say? >> The interest amount is would be huge.

[1:22:51] » Yes. >> Yeah.

[1:22:53] » Say she's earning her money. >> Yeah.

[1:22:58] » Yes. Yeah. She's doing great. Um but I this is all I have to present today. So,

[1:23:04] » tax. >> Huh? tax. So, I see we got our invoice.

[1:23:08] » Uh, yes, we have the invoice and I coded it and I I don't know if it's in that

[1:23:13] one, but I know I put it in the basket. Um, that is at the

[1:23:19] Oh my gosh, can't think of the word. I've got everything I need to the

[1:23:23] attorney and then it's abstract now, I believe, is where we're sitting at with

[1:23:27] the tax hill. So,

[1:23:32] » I see that she like CC you or you did. >> I did CC you. Uh I wanted to make sure

[1:23:37] she had your updated email cuz she was still including your old email. So,

[1:23:42] » that's >> and I wasn't sure if you had access to

[1:23:45] that one. So, I wanted to make sure she got you.

[1:23:47] » I can get both >> prefer the other one.

[1:23:52] [laughter] Um,

[1:23:54] » well, I know the city of Shenoot is anxious to have the tax sale.

[1:23:58] » Yes, there's a lot of there's a lot of people that are. So,

[1:24:02] » they're picking up like 60 lots. >> Wow.

[1:24:05] » That they would like to see. >> Geez.

[1:24:08] » Sold. >> Yeah.

[1:24:09] » So, >> yeah, I've had a lot of uh people ask

[1:24:12] about it. So, it's definitely time >> process

[1:24:19] property. >> How many lots?

[1:24:20] » Uh, there's like 200. Yeah, 208 209 >> is how many properties were on there,

[1:24:26] which actually went down from the beginning of this year because it was

[1:24:29] over 300 uh the beginning of this year. So, it did go down a little bit.

[1:24:34] » Well, closer it gets. >> Yeah.

[1:24:37] » Yeah. The more people that will come in. >> Yes.

[1:24:41] » Yep. >> So, that will be after the first of the

[1:24:44] year. >> Yes.

[1:24:45] » Yes. >> So,

[1:24:46] » Yep. >> You got it started.

[1:24:48] » Yes. >> Yep. Now, we just wait. It's great. If

[1:24:51] people want to pay, we would love for you just to pay

[1:24:54] » marketing tax and then we don't have to go through all this. So,

[1:24:58] » yeah. But, uh, that's all for me. Do you guys have anything you would like to um

[1:25:04] do you have questions or anything? >> No.

[1:25:09] » Thanks for hanging. >> I think you gave us plenty. [laughter]

[1:25:11] » What' you say? >> I think you gave us plenty.

[1:25:13] » Okay. It's a whole dumpster dumpster truck. We'll come up with more, you

[1:25:18] know, in our next meeting. So, >> yeah. [laughter]

[1:25:21] There's it's always something. >> So, we're not going to meet until the

[1:25:24] 10th, which is the Thursday after Memorial Day.

[1:25:27] » Okay. >> Labor Day.

[1:25:28] » Labor Day. >> Labor Day. Whenever the holiday

[1:25:30] [laughter] can never get the same thing,

[1:25:34] » but uh I think because of the holiday, we decided to wait till Thursday. So,

[1:25:38] » okay. >> Two more days.

[1:25:40] » All right. Well, no problem. I'll make sure to get you guys that before then so

[1:25:44] you can look at it, >> please.

[1:25:46] » Okay. >> Yeah.

[1:25:47] » Yes. >> Yes.

[1:25:48] » Yep. All right, guys. Well, I appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Thanks,

[1:25:52] Gabby. >> You have a good day.

[1:25:56] » All right, Melanie, you have one short thing

[1:26:00] today. [laughter] >> I failed to have you approve a training

[1:26:05] before I have it next week. So, >> Oh,

[1:26:07] » and I was like, I thought I did and I couldn't find a paperwork. So, here I

[1:26:10] am. >> Denied.

[1:26:14] » Here's your copy and I'll get >> Thank you.

[1:26:20] next week. Like I said, you already paid for it. I have my room. I forgot to get

[1:26:24] it approved. I usually get both it and fourth corners done. And

[1:26:29] I don't know. I have no excuses today.

[1:26:34] It's my yearly. Um I get credits for >> fun fun.

[1:26:39] » Manhattan is always a good time.

[1:27:06] I'll make a motion. Governor Kev Cop to attend KE from a

[1:27:12] conference August 30th to September 3rd Manhattan campus.

[1:27:18] » I'll second the motion. >> All those in favor?

[1:27:21] » I >> I motion carried. Do you need that back?

[1:27:29] » That is actually all I have for you today.

[1:27:31] » So, we've never talked about this, but I know other counties are putting a burn

[1:27:35] ban on. How do you think that we're doing as far as

[1:27:39] » um I have not been approached by any fire chiefs to have another one? Now, we

[1:27:45] had that discussion what earlier this summer about changing the burn bands.

[1:27:50] Um, I don't know that we've had problems with people burning. So, I mean, people

[1:27:55] are adults and tend to not try to burn their stuff down, right?

[1:27:58] » We made it through the 4th of July, right? So,

[1:28:00] » we did make it through the 4th of July. Nick didn't burn anything down. So,

[1:28:04] » he tries to a lot, don't you? [laughter]

[1:28:09] » No, I I to be honest with you, when I had that conversation with the fire

[1:28:13] chiefs, um, nobody has approached me about it, and that's generally where we

[1:28:17] go with it. Um, if it starts being an issue, we're hoping we get some

[1:28:21] » We're going to get some rain. It's September, right?

[1:28:24] » And we're supposed to have a wet winter as well.

[1:28:26] » Oh, we are. >> We're going into L.

[1:28:30] » Mike is shaking his head. No. >> Sorry.

[1:28:33] » I don't I don't make the rules, Mike. I just I'm just reporter. Don't kill the

[1:28:37] messenger. But we're in a wetter we're going to be in a wetter winter is my

[1:28:41] understanding. So, >> maybe

[1:28:44] » Well, >> we need that. But

[1:28:45] » we do need some moisture, but um we We need to get rid of

[1:28:49] » I haven't heard anything. So, >> no, actually everybody

[1:28:53] » I mean I know the wheat's not apparently not as good as they thought it was going

[1:28:56] to be this year. A little less, but I haven't had any. So,

[1:29:00] » corn everyone's putting corn down. >> I think

[1:29:05] » Yeah. So, nobody has said anything. So, >> there's quite a bit of moisture in the

[1:29:09] morning still on the ground. So, >> yeah.

[1:29:12] » In Witchah this weekend, they got rain. >> We got rain. We did.

[1:29:15] » Yeah, we did. >> Oh, okay. We got we got some in

[1:29:17] Gailsburg brain for like 30 minutes and then it was done. So [laughter] we're

[1:29:21] done. We got a little >> Okay. So no, if if you have if you want

[1:29:25] if you want to um entertain a burn bane change, I'm more than willing to get

[1:29:30] information again, but I already tried that before. So

[1:29:33] » I was wondering if there was any talk, but

[1:29:35] » No, no, I'm good. But if you know anything else, thank you guys.

[1:29:39] » Thank you. >> Sorry about the wait,

[1:29:43] » Miss Cheryl.

[1:29:46] You're back again. This is just becoming a regular.

[1:29:50] » Well, you miss us so much. >> Well, I'm the one who hears from the

[1:29:54] real estate person. I'm between you and them. So, that's why

[1:30:01] uh so I I am requesting an executive session to discuss purchase

[1:30:08] of real estate. And I did I heard you talking about bank accounts. So, I

[1:30:12] brought bank statements for you. Isn't that nice?

[1:30:17] So, I have that.

[1:30:26] I move to recess into executive session.

[1:30:33] Oh. To discuss the acquisition of real estate regarding the attorney's office

[1:30:38] for how long are you going to talk? >> 15.

[1:30:42] » 15. probably I >> let's go with 10 minutes and then we can

[1:30:47] go more if we need to to include commission council and county attorney.

[1:30:51] » Okay, >> we'll come back at three Oh, sorry. 245.

[1:30:56] » Okay, >> I'll second the motion.

[1:30:58] » All those in favor? >> I I

[1:31:03] » That'd be 15 minutes. Is that okay? >> Oh, I'm sorry. I said Yeah. 240.

[1:31:06] » 240. >> I just said 10 minutes. Okay, that's

[1:41:50] We're back in session. No action was taken.

[1:41:55] Anything else for us? >> Well, okay. Yes.

[1:42:01] Uh, so I'm just going to say it out, okay? For me, there isn't any real

[1:42:07] reason not to do this. And at some point, I do need to give an answer to

[1:42:14] those people in order to be sort of a professional business person.

[1:42:20] So, if you have lost interest or you're not going to do this, I I kind of need

[1:42:27] to tell them. So, I Not meaning to pressure you, but I'm

[1:42:31] pressuring you. Okay? So, I apologize if it's like that. But what do you want me

[1:42:38] to tell them?

[1:42:42] » We got pretty firm numbers of what we have remaining available. That That's

[1:42:47] why I want if you got that summary again >> from the audit.

[1:42:52] » Yeah. Yes, I can send you the executive summary again, but I can tell you he his

[1:42:56] his prediction, I think, is that there's going to be over 125,000 dollars left

[1:43:02] that belongs to the county. And I actually think that estimate is low

[1:43:06] because some of the things that would have to be distributed from that fund

[1:43:11] have already been paid. So, you have another over $100,000 for sure that will

[1:43:18] be available.

[1:43:31] and first enter about 47.

[1:43:36] » Mhm. And then there's mine, which the one

[1:43:40] that I started that has I'm sure it has 18 by now because

[1:43:46] I know I've added almost $1,000 since that statement. So,

[1:44:00] approximately

[1:44:26] 185,000 >> I'm sorry what

[1:44:28] » approximately 185,000 That's correct.

[1:44:43] And if you uh are directing me to put some of that larger account in a

[1:44:51] different instrument at the bank, I think that would be wise

[1:44:57] because it's not making you it's not making anybody any money right now. It's

[1:45:02] just sitting there. >> Is that art?

[1:45:06] » H >> is that our direction? They just they

[1:45:09] should Yeah, they would just hit the >> I I would like to do that

[1:45:14] » market of some sort. >> Yeah, like a money market account at

[1:45:17] least. >> If you're not having enough activity,

[1:45:19] that would be penalizing to you. >> No, no,

[1:45:23] if I Yeah, if I needed to. Yeah, I could even make Yes, I can avoid a lot of

[1:45:30] activity.

[1:45:34] Is there a name on that or just >> I wouldn't give the account number.

[1:45:38] » Well, of course not. [laughter] >> I'm just saying

[1:45:43] » convert. I'd make a motion to have you convert the community account into a

[1:45:49] money market. >> Okay.

[1:45:51] » Diversion fun. >> Yeah.

[1:45:56] » I'll second that. Any more discussion >> in that? He still had a

[1:46:01] » All those in favor? into that. He also had a training.

[1:46:06] » Are you going to Well, the training fund is a whole different thing. I'm talking

[1:46:10] with Gabby about that. >> Okay. Figure out what that is. No, I

[1:46:13] think what you're thinking of is he had a drug buy fund. Okay.

[1:46:17] » For the law enforcement and I had a conversation with them and it turns out

[1:46:21] that none of them wanted that money. They have their money to buy to make

[1:46:25] control buys of drugs. So when Tiana came in office, there was about 35,000

[1:46:31] in that account. And uh and when I came, there was like 2700 because she wrote

[1:46:37] some big checks to the law enforcement agencies, the sheriff's office, uh the

[1:46:42] Erie Police Department, and the Shoot Police Department. And they uh I think

[1:46:46] they bought equipment. I think the Shoot PD added a few uh

[1:46:52] maybe not flot cameras, but cameras for I think she came to us about that.

[1:46:58] » And so so that one is I I just closed the account because it had to and put it

[1:47:04] over into that one that's 18,000. So >> I just remember there was two.

[1:47:08] » Yes, there. Yes, you are correct about that. And I there was like a she pretty

[1:47:15] much spent all that money. So yeah, but I will take action to put the

[1:47:22] the larger account in a different kind of thing that will at least earn us a

[1:47:27] little bit of income as we go here. >> Your space is limited. I know that.

[1:47:33] » Uh yeah, I don't know. Uh,

[1:47:39] I don't know what to do if I if we're not going to do this then.

[1:47:47] I mean, I'll figure something out right now. You know, I'm kind of hanging them

[1:47:51] from the chandeliers. But

[1:47:57] what I can do, >> where do you think you go? Oh, I just

[1:48:04] there's just no space in Chinuke. I mean, I'm surprised there's not more

[1:48:08] options, you know. It's kind of sad. >> It is, but

[1:48:15] » it is. >> Yeah. And nothing truer was ever said.

[1:48:18] There's not any options. >> Well, if we get all that money, let's

[1:48:23] just build new. >> Yeah,

[1:48:27] you're going to get more than that building new.

[1:48:32] a lot. >> Yeah, I'm afraid

[1:48:34] » I don't like the location.

[1:48:38] » It could be worse. It could be out by the high school. That's really not good

[1:48:41] location. Um, yeah. I mean,

[1:48:57] we'll be back tomorrow to work on more budget things. Okay.

[1:49:01] » And let's discuss it and see. A little overwhelmed right now on making

[1:49:07] decisions on budgets. >> Okay.

[1:49:09] » And expenses day, >> I guess.

[1:49:12] » But we're we're going to meet tomorrow and we're meeting on Thursday. So

[1:49:15] » Okay. Okay. What time? Tomorrow. >> Okay. All right.

[1:49:22] I will >> try to work in our numbers here.

[1:49:24] » Yeah. >> And we're going to talk about wages

[1:49:26] tomorrow. So >> Okay. I probably need to be in that

[1:49:29] department. Yeah, I I need to be talking about that. Okay. All right. Thank you.

[1:49:34] Thanks for your time. >> Thank you.

[1:49:40] » Cindy,

[1:49:44] couple of things. Um, this was a last minute submission

[1:49:50] after the budget meeting and wasn't able to get in the consent agenda. if we can

[1:49:55] get this approved for this individual.

[1:50:00] I apologize. It's something that came up in regards

[1:50:04] to the >> Sure.

[1:50:08] I'll make a motion to approve a leave request form

[1:50:12] for one county employee. Second. >> All those in favor? I.

[1:50:17] » Motion carried.

[1:50:29] Thank you much. >> I guess it doesn't matter. I'll just

[1:50:32] » Oh, it does say original. >> I'll just switch it. I'll just cross

[1:50:35] that off. >> Messed up.

[1:50:39] » Um. All right.

[1:50:46] » Trying to think. Already forgot. >> Not good. Not good.

[1:50:52] Um, not sure where to start here. Um, let's

[1:50:57] do I'll give you some updates real quick.

[1:51:01] So, actually, no, I'm going to take that back. Uh, non-elected I'd like to

[1:51:05] request an executive session for non-elected personnel in the jail um for

[1:51:10] five minutes to include myself, commission, and counsel.

[1:51:17] » For how long? Sorry. >> Five minutes. Oh, five. So, we'll come

[1:51:20] back at 255. I'll move to recess into executive

[1:51:24] session to discuss personnel matters of non-elected personnel regarding the jail

[1:51:28] for 5 minutes to include commission, counsel, and HR. We'll come back at 255.

[1:51:34] » I'll second it. >> All those in favor?

[1:51:37] » I >> I motion carried.

[1:56:31] You're live.

[1:56:35] » I don't know how we can be 30 seconds off.

[1:56:40] » All right, we're back in session. No action was taken.

[1:56:44] » Hello. >> It's going to be a long meeting. Um

[1:56:49] » um I'd like to request another um non-elected executive session regarding

[1:56:55] the treasurer's department to include myself, commission and council for 5

[1:57:00] minutes. >> I'll move to recess into executive

[1:57:04] session to discuss personnel matters of non-elected personnel regarding the

[1:57:07] treasur's office for five minutes to include commission council and HR and

[1:57:11] come back in at 3:00. [clears throat]

[1:57:14] » I'll second the motion. All those in favor?

[1:57:16] » I >> I motion carried.

[1:57:25] It's a good thing.

[2:01:41] Good to go. >> We're back in session and no action was

[2:01:44] taken. >> All right, one left. Um, this one is uh

[2:01:48] non-elected executive regarding road and bridge for 10 minutes to include myself,

[2:01:56] commission council, and my the director. [clears throat]

[2:01:59] So I'll move to recess into executive session to discuss personnel matters of

[2:02:02] non-elected personnel regarding road and bridge for 10 minutes to include

[2:02:05] commission counsel HR and road bridge director

[2:02:09] » to come back at 3:10. >> I'll second the motion.

[2:02:15] » Okay. And why don't we make that 3:15 and get a fivem minute break? Some of us

[2:02:21] didn't take a break earlier. >> I know.

[2:02:23] » Back [laughter] at 3:15 with the five minute break.

[2:02:26] » All those in favor? I >> I motion carry.

[2:02:29] » You're quicker. [laughter]

[2:17:03] We're live here. >> We're back in session and no action was

[2:17:06] taken.

[2:17:10] » Um the only other thing I brought and I

[2:17:14] kind of mentioned it to you guys this morning and I just wanted to say it

[2:17:16] because Mike and I talked about it. um we have to figure out

[2:17:22] they are full on all their budgeted positions regardless if they're

[2:17:25] part-time because the part-times are budgeted at part-time

[2:17:29] if it is felt that there is a need for an additional road and bridge position

[2:17:33] or to um I need to get with Mike we needed equipment operator do we want a

[2:17:38] road grader operator like what do we want and then I can give you guys the

[2:17:43] number should we hire an individual um but that's something for you guys to

[2:17:48] think about. And in the meantime, I'll get with Mike to see what positions, if

[2:17:52] any, um, he'd request to add to the budget for next year. Does that make

[2:17:58] sense? >> Yep.

[2:18:01] » Okay. Not that I'm trying to add more money, but I know

[2:18:06] um, having enough people is always a concern, so this would be the time to

[2:18:09] address it. >> All right. Anything for me?

[2:18:14] » No. >> All right. Thanks, y'all. Thanks,

[2:18:16] Sydney.

[2:18:20] » All right, Mike.

[2:18:26] » Okay. Good afternoon, everyone. Don't have a whole lot on my list.

[2:18:32] Um,

[2:18:36] did we want to discuss the Colbert

[2:18:43] issue or proposal, whatever you want to call it, for the Gailsburg school. Do we

[2:18:49] want to do that or I know last week we kind of tabled that

[2:18:54] and we're going to revisit it and I've had them call me and

[2:19:02] ask where we're at on that. >> Um

[2:19:06] » not that I don't help but they are a taxing entity that have funds outside of

[2:19:12] their budget. I still want to know

[2:19:16] why I'm hoping to do our part, but we're

[2:19:20] doing extras.

[2:19:24] We'll close on our budget right now, too.

[2:19:26] » Yeah.

[2:19:30] » Well, taxpayers do pay a lot of taxes, too. know that

[2:19:34] » well they one of the guy now this it wouldn't be

[2:19:38] official but [clears throat] I was contacted by one of the residents

[2:19:42] over there and he suggested even he thought he might be able to talk the

[2:19:48] contractor that's doing the uh fiber optic cable into installing it

[2:19:54] u I wouldn't have a problem with them

[2:19:58] doing that I would want to oversee it but um just to kind of ease the pain a

[2:20:05] little bit. But

[2:20:10] that's not my decision to make. It's whatever you guys whatever you think.

[2:20:16] And I did look at the site again. We thought maybe there would have to be a

[2:20:22] third culvert installed downstream, but there won't be. It goes past one house.

[2:20:29] He'll need a new culbert. Did you ever send us the cost to

[2:20:33] » um I have a for the this is the cost for the culverts

[2:20:39] themselves which is u

[2:20:43] $4,998.14.

[2:20:46] I don't have a copy for everybody's

[2:20:54] now that it would probably take a load of u or a couple loads of gravel

[2:21:02] and maybe a load of cold patch to which you're probably looking at

[2:21:10] maybe another couple thousand dollar on top of this. in our time.

[2:21:15] » In our time, >> but I thought they were willing to pay

[2:21:18] for the covers. >> Well, they are. This is just a

[2:21:22] » So, somebody had asked for this the other day to

[2:21:25] » Yeah. >> So, our time is what we're really

[2:21:29] » Well, patch of gravel. >> Yeah.

[2:21:33] » 500. >> Well, and if they were willing to pay

[2:21:35] for that, then it would just be our time and trucks.

[2:21:38] » So, I mean, it's a county road, correct? >> Yes. And so normally we do cover

[2:21:42] culverts that need to be replaced. I don't

[2:21:45] » think they usually pay for the cost,

[2:21:49] » not labor. They just pay for the covers. Correct.

[2:21:54] » For a new installation. Yeah. They pay for the culbert, the

[2:22:01] rock, and a backho service. >> Equipment service. And we probably need

[2:22:06] to update that really because >> it's But usually

[2:22:11] » the last co I watched there was three guys that are

[2:22:15] » well you now there's probably two but um but we don't make money off these

[2:22:23] installations because we're there to provide a service. I know, but they also

[2:22:26] are taking tax before they can >> fund something on this,

[2:22:30] » but um >> it's whatever the commission thinks on

[2:22:35] this.

[2:22:43] A little concerned what their budget for the school budget is. As to com comment

[2:22:49] earlier, their rates keep going on school district reimbursement and we're

[2:22:55] pinching money to try to pay our employees.

[2:23:10] So, I guess this is my question, too. If we're going to do the 2-in overlay on

[2:23:15] the west side of Gailsburg Road, does this affect anything? Will we have a

[2:23:20] drainage problem on that overlay that if we don't do this? Is it causing problems

[2:23:27] or what? Why do they want to replace this? I guess

[2:23:30] » it it won't affect the county road. They've made some changes to their

[2:23:35] school. Uh, I believe the gymnasium was added on and yeah, frankly, I don't

[2:23:42] think they got the elevation right and uh they have a water issue with the

[2:23:48] building. Do you is that correct? >> Oh goodness. Okay. So, this should solve

[2:23:55] that problem, >> but

[2:24:03] they this really should have been done when they did the addition to the

[2:24:06] school. >> Kind of like 150th out here.

[2:24:10] » How long has that been? >> I was done before.

[2:24:12] » Kind of like 150th out here. >> Yeah.

[2:24:14] » Yeah. I agree.

[2:24:22] or if you want to think about it some more

[2:24:25] and we can talk about it again next meeting.

[2:24:29] We still have a little time. We don't have a lot of time, but we have a little

[2:24:32] time. So, I was just asked to bring it up and

[2:24:38] um

[2:24:58] Well, if we're not going to do 150s, we shouldn't do this.

[2:25:05] That's my thoughts.

[2:25:13] Well, okay. I'm going to keep moving. Uh the chip and shield operation, we're

[2:25:19] kind of in the middle of that right now. We've been over around there area. We've

[2:25:24] got that done. We do have some cleanup over there. I've had some grumbling

[2:25:28] about some loose gravel and what have you. We'll there'll have to be some more

[2:25:32] work done. Um we got that taken care of. 60th road and then the 10th road from 59

[2:25:41] west for that one mile down around the Morehead area and then we're going to

[2:25:46] move up this way tomorrow. Um we don't do anything anymore for the

[2:25:52] city of Chinoot. Um city of Erie hasn't won anything the last couple years and

[2:25:57] the city of St. Paul are going to try some fog sealing this year. So I'm

[2:26:03] anxious to see how that works. Uh we'll try that possibly Thursday.

[2:26:14] Um

[2:26:17] so I emailed you guys uh regarding the engine in our crusher at the quarry.

[2:26:24] It's got some pretty significant issues. the rocker rail and the one of

[2:26:30] the heads is broken and it's showing signs of wear. It's the

[2:26:37] the machine's got like 14,000 hours on it. Um

[2:26:44] the options

[2:26:47] are um to overhaul it just the parts you're looking at

[2:26:57] 15,000 $29.55.

[2:27:01] There would be some additional work that would have to be performed by Foley,

[2:27:05] which would probably be I can't I don't have a quote on that, but it it'd be in

[2:27:10] the neighborhood of$2 to $3,000 of additional work. Um,

[2:27:16] here's a parts the the list of that breakdown.

[2:27:31] Personally, I would not recommend that option.

[2:27:36] Uh, with, you know, when you get that 14,000 hour mark, you're you're pretty

[2:27:41] well at the life of that engine. Um,

[2:27:45] the other option which I'm getting ready to give you is a uh for remanufactured

[2:27:54] engine from Foley.

[2:27:58] Uh, and then this is a CAT C15 engine. Pretty common engine, but it's

[2:28:05] $34,32467.

[2:28:26] 12,000 hour warranty. [laughter] >> Yeah,

[2:28:32] I'll try. I may need some help on that. Um,

[2:28:38] but I think most people would agree that that's

[2:28:42] you know, you're halfway there on the repairing the old one, and there's no

[2:28:47] guarantee we won't have the same thing happen a month from now with the other

[2:28:51] head. So, >> you could do that, and something else

[2:28:53] could break in there, and you'd be end up doing this anyway.

[2:28:56] » Yeah, I really It would be my recommendation

[2:29:00] to buy the the the new engine. And if you

[2:29:07] decide to do that, I have a motion here. The only thing I left blank was

[2:29:14] » where it's coming out of. Okay. So, we do have some funds that we could take

[2:29:19] out of. We have some in the equipment reserve, some in the pilot fund, and

[2:29:24] some in special machinery. The only one that we only have I didn't know there

[2:29:29] was this $10,000 core deposit. Really the only one we have is the pilot fund.

[2:29:35] So initially when we set up the pilot fund they gave so much money to road and

[2:29:38] bridge and so much to the sheriff's department and road and bridge we

[2:29:42] haven't actually used all of that initial money. So we have about $67,000

[2:29:46] in there. So we would have enough money to use to purchase this and that way it

[2:29:51] would stay out of his um operations the dayto-day operations.

[2:29:57] Do you >> have a time for anyone that could have

[2:29:59] this? I think the old one back.

[2:30:02] » Uh the I think they can have it fairly quickly.

[2:30:08] » These are pretty common engines. I think Bill said they had one available.

[2:30:23] So this core deposit I mean is the total 45 or 34? It's 34 because we'll give

[2:30:29] them the old engine. >> Okay. It's basically

[2:30:33] » I got you. >> The core is the trade of our Now, if we

[2:30:36] didn't give them our old one, it would be that much.

[2:30:39] » But >> they want it.

[2:30:43] » Well, they'll remanufacture it. >> Well, yeah. They'll they'll take it and

[2:30:47] rebuild it and it'll be like a new engine when they get done.

[2:30:53] So, >> you think the pilot line will be fine?

[2:30:55] Yeah. Okay. I make a motion to purchase the CAT C15

[2:31:00] diesel engine equipment for the rock pressure

[2:31:06] in the amount of $34,32467

[2:31:10] to be paid out of pilot fund account number 433.

[2:31:16] » I'll second the motion. >> Any more discussion? All those in favor?

[2:31:20] I I motion carried. >> Okay. Thank you for that.

[2:31:31] Just reminding Rodney I'm a little worried about the warning.

[2:31:34] » I will pass that on. Um

[2:31:40] my next item is um the routine bridge inspections

[2:31:48] for our bridges and um

[2:31:55] CFS does that for us and I they've always done us a good job and and u they

[2:32:01] do have a proposal

[2:32:08] for us that and I'll need a signature on it.

[2:32:14] » I did email this to you.

[2:32:24] Their proposal uh is in for 20 the 2026 routine bridge

[2:32:30] inspections is uh $23,491.

[2:32:42] And if you will approve that, I will get a couple of signatures and we'll get

[2:32:48] that in the works.

[2:33:27] Do you have the original to sign? >> Yes.

[2:33:32] » Are you going to sign it? >> Chassity.

[2:33:36] » It just says Neo County. You're more than welcome.

[2:33:41] » Yep. I'll make a motion to approve um the routine inspection of 169 off

[2:33:48] system and RS system bridges at the unit price

[2:33:54] of $139 for a total of $23,491 for CFS

[2:34:02] to be taken out of the road and bridge operation.

[2:34:08] Any more discussion? All those in favor?

[2:34:12] » I >> I motion carried.

[2:34:20] » Speak up.

[2:34:47] Okay, thank you for that.

[2:34:51] Um

[2:34:57] the the next thing I have is uh we have an account with Pump Tire. We buy quite

[2:35:03] a few tires from them. And they've asked us to update our

[2:35:08] credit application. I apologize to Ken. I just kind of gave

[2:35:13] this to her right at the beginning to look over, but I think it's all pretty

[2:35:17] straightforward stuff. just a renew. >> Yeah.

[2:35:23] Um

[2:35:30] » and

[2:35:38] this this doesn't need done right now. If we need if you want to take a closer

[2:35:43] look at this or whatever >> personal guarantee.

[2:35:47] » That's just what I have questions about. >> I don't want to sign it.

[2:35:51] » Did [clears throat] you know that the blast page has a personal guarantee of

[2:35:54] whoever signs it? >> That's why I gave it to

[2:35:56] » Kenna that

[2:35:59] » and I don't know if we can like just disregard that and send it to

[2:36:04] them. I mean >> I I don't know.

[2:36:08] » Go ahead. Go ahead. You

[2:36:13] » [laughter] >> chairman.

[2:36:15] » I really don't need any. >> We don't need to do this right now. If

[2:36:18] it's not a If you don't think it's a good idea, we'll just put it off. And

[2:36:21] » well, that's this is just the only thing I have questions about. I think

[2:36:25] » that's just >> Can you see if our old application had

[2:36:30] that or >> I asked for it and we could not find it

[2:36:34] and we asked pumps and they couldn't provide it either. So,

[2:36:38] » Oh, okay. H

[2:36:41] » I don't know. >> We'll just wait.

[2:36:44] » Yeah. >> Okay. We We can just look at it next

[2:36:47] time. That's fine. >> Um

[2:36:52] » see,

[2:37:05] we have three dump trucks down. That's never good news,

[2:37:11] but we're still getting by. Um,

[2:37:21] oh, and this Friday, the 28th, we're going to have a retirement party for

[2:37:28] Kenny Kaiser. He's Kenny's been with us a long time. Good employee. We'll miss

[2:37:32] him. Um, I can't say enough good about him, but u

[2:37:39] going to have a little get together on Friday afternoon. So,

[2:37:46] um, that's all I have on my list.

[2:37:52] Mike, I just got one thing. I had a gentleman call me up. You guys ship and

[2:37:56] seal Morehead Road down on county line.

[2:37:59] » [clears throat] >> We're supposed to go clear the county

[2:38:01] line on that chip and seal and we didn't.

[2:38:06] » I haven't been down there today. >> Okay. Well, he just called me up and

[2:38:09] told me that. >> You might check it out.

[2:38:12] » Yeah, I'll look at it >> cuz I know that's ours because

[2:38:17] » Yeah, I mean >> been down there before.

[2:38:24] » Yeah, I can't imagine not, but I'll I'll look into it.

[2:38:33] two miles. >> One mile.

[2:38:36] » It's one mile.

[2:38:39] » But it does go to county line. You can >> you can see it on the map.

[2:38:44] » Anderson.

[2:38:48] » Yeah. >> Yeah.

[2:38:51] » Question conversation to begin with on the road

[2:38:56] with the school district. So, I've been talking to the Gailsburg residents about

[2:38:59] this. So, the last I have talked to them about it is that the school's willing to

[2:39:03] buy the Culver, this company that's putting in the fiber office line,

[2:39:08] Masttec has, what they're telling you, volunteer to provide the equipment and

[2:39:12] the labor to put it in. Do you guys have an issue with that?

[2:39:17] What's the approval process if they have?

[2:39:19] » Well, only if you're wanting willing to go over oversee part of it or

[2:39:25] » I could do that. I don't >> just to make sure we're clear on that.

[2:39:30] You know, if they're willing to do it, there's really no expense to the county

[2:39:33] as far as equipment.

[2:39:41] » I'd probably open that and then

[2:39:48] the rock. I mean, if somebody could >> they they only thing they talked about

[2:39:53] the last time they were here when Jared was here with the you know asked to pay

[2:39:57] for the cover on the neighbors down there and they didn't say anything about

[2:40:00] that and Mike put his bid estimate together that they got there was rock

[2:40:04] and cold pass included in that. They did not push back on that. So my

[2:40:08] understanding is they'll pay for that. So the only thing we would be out would

[2:40:13] be the trucking and the

[2:40:17] hauling actually u I'd have to relook at that but I think I included the hauling

[2:40:22] on the coal patch >> yeah because of where we have to go to

[2:40:26] get patch >> because it's a it's a it's a good drive.

[2:40:30] I mean we go to we go to Grove to get it but I've used cold patch from every

[2:40:36] different source around here. I actually got the this information from one of our

[2:40:41] neighboring counties. That's what they use and it's proved to be worth no more

[2:40:46] than we use in a year's time. It's it's worth going down there after it because

[2:40:51] it holds up better than anything else we've used.

[2:40:53] » It's more precise numbers with county. So,

[2:40:58] » but a little over $2,000

[2:41:03] include the material. >> That was It's about I think it's $125 a

[2:41:09] ton, 15 tons, two hours down there and back.

[2:41:14] » I think we talked about also doing it before or as we're doing the 2-in

[2:41:20] overlay, having that equipment out there.

[2:41:23] » You don't want to have the roads messed up. So the sooner we do it, I think the

[2:41:27] better >> if we're going to allow them to do it.

[2:41:30] » Tech can do it, but >> it would be nice to have it done before

[2:41:33] they start the overlay >> because then they could patch it for us.

[2:41:37] So >> they said mast

[2:41:41] » if this wasn't pre-planned.

[2:41:52] » I don't see any problem with it.

[2:41:58] We're taking away from we're short. My complaint about people not having enough

[2:42:02] to do people wise. They think that >> but it's a covert in the county. So on a

[2:42:09] county road, >> but how many covers do you have on the

[2:42:13] list now like that haven't been replaced for actual residents that are paying it?

[2:42:17] » We've got a quite a few property taxes. a lot

[2:42:26] as a tax exempt entity that's collecting taxes.

[2:42:32] » So, we're going to make an exception. >> How do you get around it? They'll pay

[2:42:34] the materials and the equipment. I mean, what else what else can they do to get

[2:42:39] this done? They got a drainage problem. >> Well, they're finding a contractor to do

[2:42:43] it. >> I mean, they are

[2:42:45] » I mean within getting the coal patch. >> Yeah.

[2:42:48] » Yeah. So let them like

[2:42:54] » all the rock and the coal patch. You think that's

[2:42:58] » Yes, we can ask. I mean, that's the only thing I know to do. I mean, they're

[2:43:01] willing to do everything else up to this point. I mean, if that's what you're

[2:43:04] pushing back on, we can just ask. >> I just It's just

[2:43:12] » how many people we push back. But >> I I understand there people were out two

[2:43:16] years on getting worm. calling and I think you've had one here

[2:43:21] recently that hadn't had a new >> culbert in

[2:43:25] » well and the big issue is I guess if it's an issue you know when they when

[2:43:29] Venice overlays that road they're going to feather into that intersection we go

[2:43:33] in there later cut that open then it messes that whole intersection up

[2:43:38] » would it be when they overlay it they talk to the contractor ways they're

[2:43:43] doing the overlay because they will help on intersection certain entities you

[2:43:47] talk to them ahead of They have it prepped and ready to go.

[2:43:50] They'll come and give you a new entrance into your property most

[2:43:54] » instead of doing a coal patch. >> Yeah. Instead of a coal patch.

[2:43:58] » Well, I mean we could gravel down patch it.

[2:44:02] » Yeah. >> That would be a good temporary fix.

[2:44:04] » They will I assume where that's going to be right there at the intersection.

[2:44:07] Overlay that want to be seamless. >> Seamless asphalt for their entrances.

[2:44:15] So if they were willing to haul the rock >> and you guys

[2:44:20] » Yeah. >> and I could go over there and I could

[2:44:23] make sure that I looked >> connected to can do it at any time as

[2:44:26] long as it's before we do the 2-in overlay

[2:44:28] » and then then they get a seamless nice overlay entrance into the property

[2:44:33] » which is what we were after anyway >> which would be great for the buses.

[2:44:36] » Yeah. >> Can you look into that?

[2:44:38] » I can. Now, that being said, >> if if they're willing to do that and pay

[2:44:43] for basically everything and Masttec would put it in, is the commission okay

[2:44:49] if

[2:44:52] I don't have a problem with it if you don't?

[2:44:56] » I I don't do along with that. >> Okay. Would you mind? It would be much

[2:45:01] better >> because it would probably be

[2:45:05] » I think two loads of gravel would probably be if that won't do it. It'll

[2:45:09] be very close. >> I think the ends with the

[2:45:12] overload nicer. >> Oh, much better.

[2:45:15] » A lot nicer. No, they you'll talk to the contractor there. They'll

[2:45:20] » Well, yeah. It'll it'll be nice. >> And all they'd have to do then as far as

[2:45:24] map tech would just be put the cover in. Correct.

[2:45:28] » Right. put the culvert in and compact around

[2:45:31] it. >> Yeah.

[2:45:32] » Bring it up to grade with rock and then they can overlay over the top of it.

[2:45:37] It >> it's it's not a difficult

[2:45:41] task. But everything takes time and money

[2:45:45] » and manpower. >> Manpower.

[2:45:48] » But so are we willing to allow that in the meantime if we don't meet till the

[2:45:52] 10th and they >> I think so.

[2:45:53] » I'm not sure when Bettis is going to >> Okay. I think they're a little busy

[2:45:57] » and even if they have to do it on a on a weekend, if somebody will let me know,

[2:46:01] I'll run over and look at it. I don't have a problem with that. It's not that

[2:46:04] far. >> Do we need a motion on that or do we are

[2:46:09] you okay with just >> I'll make the motion to agree

[2:46:12] » to allow the >> what we agreed on. Is that a good enough

[2:46:15] motion? >> Yeah. Here you go, Chassy.

[2:46:18] » That's a good compromise. And I think you'll be much they'll be much more

[2:46:22] happier with an asphalt insurance. Yeah. [clears throat]

[2:46:26] » Oh, better idea. >> Yeah.

[2:46:28] » So, what is the motion

[2:46:31] » to allow >> the Gailber school to install?

[2:46:35] » I think we probably just >> to allow Gailsburg school system to

[2:46:39] replace that. >> Not replace this is a new installation.

[2:46:42] » Install a new install new covert >> for bus entrance or is it a

[2:46:48] » It's an intersection intersection. It's a

[2:46:51] » east of the middle >> south edge of 70th

[2:46:54] » southeast >> and Kingman.

[2:46:56] » Okay. >> And there's also another covert that'll

[2:46:58] have to replace be replaced >> further down to the east. But Brian

[2:47:03] Kramer said he'd pay for that if nobody else would

[2:47:07] » Well, that cover was in the proposal. Yeah,

[2:47:10] » because he wasn't going to have to change it out

[2:47:14] » if if this one wasn't >> that was the one that the school pushed

[2:47:18] back on because they didn't want to pay for the private drive, but like I said,

[2:47:22] Brian Kramer who owns that said that he would do that so

[2:47:27] » Okay, good. >> But I think between him and the school,

[2:47:30] they'll get that taken care of. >> I'll second that. Any more discussion?

[2:47:38] All those in favor? I >> I

[2:47:41] » I'll go I with this setup deal.

[2:47:46] » Motion passes.

[2:47:54] » Okay. >> Okay. We'll if you have any questions,

[2:47:57] you can ask Nick about that motion as it went on and on. But

[2:48:01] » I think we got an understanding what we want. I think it's a good idea to do

[2:48:05] that when we're doing >> it's not going to be an expense to the

[2:48:08] county at this point. >> Well, yeah. And I just think that's

[2:48:12] over. >> Oh, it will be.

[2:48:16] » Yeah. This will this will clean it up and

[2:48:19] » it'll be a nice intersection. So, okay.

[2:48:23] » Be a good be a good neighbor.

[2:48:26] » Thank you. I saw that.

[2:48:33] That's it. >> Yeah. Thank you.

[2:48:35] » Okay. I guess.

[2:48:39] » Yes. Um, so we have always done checks for AP. We

[2:48:46] would like to start looking into AC's. It's going to save us postage, which is

[2:48:52] 78 cents right now. Postage. >> Uh, envelopes, printing, paper, all of

[2:48:57] that. So, >> you have to keep some paper. cases back

[2:49:01] in. >> Some of them will continue. Others we're

[2:49:04] going to try and reach out to our companies and see if they have an AC

[2:49:08] link >> and we'll start getting that started

[2:49:11] hopefully in the next AP. >> Oh, really? Quick time.

[2:49:16] » It goes to a dollar stamp here for too long.

[2:49:20] » Oh, yeah. >> Or 86 cents. I think

[2:49:26] » it's just a lot of It's a good idea. >> So, I just when it comes down to it,

[2:49:31] it's not going to change anything of what you guys see of course other than a

[2:49:35] versus check. So then we'll work out the details of

[2:49:40] understanding that when we present the >> integ

[2:49:45] Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. So we already run that with

[2:49:48] payroll. True. So >> good.

[2:49:52] » We're just getting up to date. >> Yeah.

[2:49:53] » Good idea. >> That was it.

[2:49:58] » Yeah. Yeah, I'm saving you money. [laughter]

[2:50:00] » Transfers next. >> All right. Um,

[2:50:06] so there are some transfers from 25 that were in our budget that we didn't

[2:50:11] actually do and some accounts that we need to clean up um to

[2:50:18] have a better audit. And so we're still working on the 25 audits. So I'll make a

[2:50:23] motion that we transfer from the pilot fund number 433

[2:50:31] into these three accounts uh in the 13th month of 25. So the first one is special

[2:50:38] bridge account 102 is 321,47124

[2:50:45] and then account number or special highway number 106 is 32,97408

[2:50:54] and the road and bridge operations for 22396823

[2:51:01] for a total of 578,41355.

[2:51:06] 5. >> I'll second it.

[2:51:10] » Any more discussion? All those in favor?

[2:51:14] » I >> I motion carried.

[2:51:17] » Um

[2:51:21] so then for 26. So, one of those the special bridge

[2:51:26] account was overdrawn because we were still waiting on money from KOT and we

[2:51:31] have received that money and so kind of to clear out that account for 26. I need

[2:51:37] to make another transfer. Hopefully, we still haven't gotten that $500 yet.

[2:51:42] Mike, on the finalization of the North River Bridge,

[2:51:48] do you know if there's any more? >> Surely by the end of the year, we'll

[2:51:53] have that. Yeah. >> So, I'll make a motion

[2:51:56] that for we can um

[2:52:02] let's have this for today a transfer from the from the special

[2:52:08] highway account 106 back into the pilot fund of

[2:52:14] 119,41672.

[2:52:24] All those in favor? >> I

[2:52:26] » I motion carries. >> And that'll clean up those accounts. And

[2:52:32] um those are kind of some of the transfers that we had kind of budgeted

[2:52:37] for 25 and then we didn't make them. So, do you have those?

[2:52:44] » Yes. >> Okay. Yeah. I think you made a copy of

[2:52:46] it. So, I will keep that in there.

[2:52:54] That's all I had for the transfers. Any more unfinished business?

[2:52:58] » Do you have an agreement with K dot yet?

[2:53:04] The project's going to be over before. >> I was discussing that. Okay. I was

[2:53:08] discussing with Mike yesterday. >> Okay. Still working on it.

[2:53:11] » Yep. >> Okay.

[2:53:13] So in new business, uh we need to have an executive session.

[2:53:20] I'll move to recess into executive session to discuss personal matters

[2:53:24] deemed privilege in the sorry attorney client relationship

[2:53:29] uh for five minutes to include the commission

[2:53:33] council and the treas I'm sorry the clerk. So we'll come back at uh 356.

[2:53:41] I'll second the motion. >> All those in favor?

[2:53:45] » I motion carry.

[2:57:32] All right, we're back in session and no action was taken.

[2:57:36] » Sure.

[2:57:52] I move to recess into executive session to discuss matters deemed privilege in

[2:57:56] the attorney client relationship regarding litigation for 10 minutes to

[2:57:59] include commission and counsel and we'll come back at

[2:58:06] 6 uh let's say 5 or 46.

[2:58:11] I'll second the motion. >> All those in favor?

[2:58:13] » I I motion carried.

[3:07:27] We're back in session. No action was taken. We're going to go back in for

[3:07:32] five more minutes. The same uh motion and we'll come back at 410.

[3:07:41] » Second. >> Second.

[3:07:43] » All those in favor? I >> I motion carried

[3:12:56] Okay, we're back in session and no action was taken.

[3:13:05] » Let's see. We got a letter from Southeast Kansas

[3:13:10] Community Action Program for their 2026 home tenantbased rental

[3:13:17] assistance application. >> So, we're just um

[3:13:23] Yeah, sorry. >> Uh just saying that we will provide a

[3:13:28] letter of support for this. >> So, I'll make a motion that we sign the

[3:13:34] letter. >> Cost us money. Nope,

[3:13:39] » not yet till we pass the budget. But this is just for a letter of support.

[3:13:47] » Yeah, I know. Is this just for construction or is it for actually help?

[3:13:52] I mean, what's the difference between HUD and section 8 in this program?

[3:14:02] So, here it says provides rental assistance, security deposit assistance,

[3:14:06] and utility deposit assistance.

[3:14:12] » You're right.

[3:14:17] » I I just there's already one program out there. That's why or subsidize housing,

[3:14:22] housing authority and all that. So, that's why I didn't know

[3:14:26] » what exactly

[3:14:34] just a question. >> You can feel free to call them if you

[3:14:40] want to.

[3:14:46] » We have a second. >> I just don't want anything else.

[3:14:55] I just have a little question. >> So we can

[3:14:58] » Why are we invol developing a health program on this?

[3:15:01] » You want to hold it till next? Okay, we'll take

[3:15:05] » might be a good tenant when I help assistance federal dollars

[3:15:12] state program

[3:15:24] » we might have the same questions.

[3:15:29] » Do you want me to >> go ahead?

[3:15:34] Um let's see on the house

[3:15:40] we got this billing statement from the city looks like and

[3:15:48] for I think it's for fiber

[3:15:52] but I saw this same come through for the county attorney and the court. I thought

[3:15:58] it was separated out but looks like paying the full balance from the court

[3:16:04] and then half from the county attorney's office.

[3:16:07] » We get to where you're at here. You said city of

[3:16:09] » Shoot.

[3:16:18] » Yeah, please. Take me a minute to find it.

[3:16:24] I just want to make sure we're not pay >> I know we used to run the health

[3:16:29] department through >> the county attorney see this same came

[3:16:35] through for the county attorney. >> Okay. So what we do in AP is we make

[3:16:42] copies for each department. That way they can sign off on the same bill.

[3:16:46] » Okay. to where we're not having to sit here and chase down a voucher to send

[3:16:50] over to another department. So, it's just a copy.

[3:16:53] » Okay. >> So,

[3:16:54] » as long as we're not paying it twice. >> No. So, you can see Yeah, it's broken

[3:16:57] down between the different departments, >> right? But looking at just the vouchers,

[3:17:01] it does look that way. So, >> but we just do a double voucher. That

[3:17:06] way, we don't have to track them down between departments.

[3:17:08] » That works. >> Yeah.

[3:17:11] » Sorry, I'm learning, guys. >> And we can we can make it work.

[3:17:15] » So, Okay, that answers that question on that

[3:17:20] one. I know the same thing. There'll be a few of them like that. I know our

[3:17:25] Kansas communications, it's divided between multiple

[3:17:29] um there's is it Verizon? We've got a few cell phones divided between

[3:17:34] departments. Um let's see. I think Cox, I think those

[3:17:39] are all separated out in invoices. Anyway,

[3:17:42] » with AT&T, >> AT&T is only one department.

[3:17:46] » Okay. >> Um, there was another one other than

[3:17:48] Kansas Communications. That's a big one that gets distributed between a majority

[3:17:54] of the departments. I can't think of what it is.

[3:17:56] » When employees travel for the county, do you give them a perm or do they just

[3:18:02] submit like meals and such back to the county?

[3:18:06] » Supposed to send a receipt. Okay. >> So, a lot of them have county credit

[3:18:11] cards and they get the county credit card and use that for their meals and

[3:18:16] they submit the receipts to us. >> And we do have a daily maximum.

[3:18:21] » Yes. And that is in our handbook. So, I talked to Cindy about getting a copy for

[3:18:25] you. >> And then mileage is paid through

[3:18:27] payroll. >> Okay.

[3:18:28] » So, we don't actually see that on accounts payable.

[3:18:31] » Okay.

[3:18:37] So, Cheryl, since you're here, I actually have a question.

[3:18:40] » Okay. >> On yours, we had two bills from Mr.

[3:18:42] Bell. Two bills from Mr. Bell. So, the one was pretty obvious, but the other

[3:18:47] one is that another court case that's going on.

[3:18:52] Do you remember? >> Well, now, did you just get a bill?

[3:18:57] » Well, there's two in this accounts payable.

[3:19:01] Well, now we just had a jury trial, so I don't know.

[3:19:05] » So, is that the >> Well, but there was another one.

[3:19:08] » It was for a different

[3:19:22] » That was out of the courthouse, right? >> Yeah.

[3:19:25] » Oh, yeah. I guess it's in court. >> Yeah.

[3:19:37] It was small, but I didn't know. >> Uh, $360.

[3:19:45] So, >> just brought copies, but I might have

[3:19:48] been preparing a journal entry or something for the case that was already

[3:19:52] done. >> That is the case on the names anyways on

[3:19:56] the case. Oh, okay. That's the that's probably the

[3:20:02] winding up. I can tell you what this is. >> There you go. So, the preliminary

[3:20:07] hearing in the case of State of Kansas versus Grill versus Savage, which

[3:20:13] Brandon also prosecuted, is where we alleged in State of Kansas versus Boo

[3:20:21] that he uh told big ones and little ones and where he got convicted. But that is

[3:20:28] the original case. So I imagine that he had some paperwork or something of the

[3:20:34] winding up of that case. I don't know whether I might ask him now if there's

[3:20:41] anything else to be done with these people

[3:20:44] than I should just enter in my appearance in that case so that I can

[3:20:47] just do paperwork. I did the paperwork of the uh the journal entry of the

[3:20:54] trial. When you have a jury trial, that thing

[3:20:59] goes on with a lot of where upon and therefore and blah blah blah for three

[3:21:03] pages. So I thought if I don't do this, it's this gonna be like a $400, you

[3:21:08] know, documents. So So I did it and sent it to him and we've now sent that to the

[3:21:14] defense attorney and we shouldn't get much of a bill.

[3:21:18] » Okay. I just didn't know that that was going on.

[3:21:23] » That was fun. Well, there's a lot of preparing and and

[3:21:28] I tried to take over as much I could. >> Okay. Well, [clears throat]

[3:21:34] » so that's what that is, I'm sure.

[3:21:40] » They're here somewhere. >> I think I asked for copies yesterday and

[3:21:44] they must have put it maybe in a different file is probably what

[3:21:46] happened. >> But I brought the copies. I just don't

[3:21:49] know what I did with them to ask about it. So,

[3:21:57] it's probably in my car. Okay.

[3:22:02] Is that it? I'm sorry. I didn't kind of got distracted there from your list. I

[3:22:07] thought it would be simple. >> I'm sorry. Do we have We I assume we

[3:22:11] have a contract with detention like with >> juvenile detention.

[3:22:17] That's a big contract and we only do they bill us with us whether or not

[3:22:22] someone's there or not. >> Yes.

[3:22:24] » Okay. >> And then it's so much per person.

[3:22:27] Correct. >> Yes.

[3:22:28] » Okay. >> So it's Yeah, it's expensive. Um some

[3:22:32] other counties have pulled out so but I think it's a good thing to have in

[3:22:36] Southeast Kansas. Now they're shipping their teenagers to Kansas City

[3:22:40] » and uh so but they're doing a really good job and trying to recruit some more

[3:22:45] counties to uh help us out. But >> they're going way up west carriage right

[3:22:51] » oh really >> there's getting to be yeah fewer of them

[3:22:55] around >> they're bringing a lot of revenue from

[3:22:58] other counties because they're bringing Gerard

[3:23:01] » and Kenna just so you know they are just on the edge of

[3:23:07] They created a different a separate space within that place

[3:23:12] uh for what's called secure know.

[3:23:16] » Yeah, >> that's that would be the state of

[3:23:19] Kansas. The DCF would be paying for that.

[3:23:22] » So I'm hoping that's going to come online very soon because of selfish

[3:23:26] reasons. I would like for us not to have to halt the kids for secure care off to

[3:23:32] hand over like that. But I also wonder if when

[3:23:38] that happens and they do start to get some contractual payments from DCF or

[3:23:43] the secure care part of that would that I would be asking okay is

[3:23:50] that going to bring some relief to counties that are still paying for the

[3:23:53] detention part just putting that over there. That's what we're looking at,

[3:23:59] Cheryl. And there is a pretty good chance that we're going to get that

[3:24:02] secure care. >> The secure

[3:24:05] get some good feelings about it. >> That's what I've been told.

[3:24:08] » Thank goodness.

[3:24:15] » One that wasn't signed. I don't know if you have sign

[3:24:21] » on the voucher. >> Oh, what department was that with? the

[3:24:25] department had signed it, but the receipt wasn't signed. Is that a

[3:24:29] problem? All the other signed? >> Yeah, not typically because there are

[3:24:33] some that come to the clerk's office and they just give us an email stating,

[3:24:36] "Yeah, go ahead and push it through." >> As long as the department head signs it,

[3:24:40] we're good to go. >> Yeah.

[3:24:49] » I didn't need to.

[3:24:53] Anyway, there's a lot and there was a lot of invoices this time.

[3:24:58] » Well, sorry. I don't mean to hold you guys up.

[3:25:00] » No, that way if something comes across that we should pull.

[3:25:06] » Oh, I'm sorry. >> You're

[3:25:17] provide you guys in your packets. This is our lovey districts. So the

[3:25:23] assessment number is the little small number here, bold number at the bottom

[3:25:27] is the grand total of that levy assessment that that they will be

[3:25:30] receiving. So this will be for next year taxes.

[3:25:36] Those have already been entered. Let me just roll over when I do abstract.

[3:25:40] » I thought that wasation request.

[3:25:46] My bad.

[3:26:06] » It was irritating [laughter]

[3:26:10] » in a good way. >> Yeah.

[3:26:14] All right. So, the next meeting we have is actually on Thursday, September 10th.

[3:26:20] So, I think because of the holiday, we're off Monday.

[3:26:24] Um, and then after that, on the following Tuesday on the 15th, we'll

[3:26:29] have our RNR and budget hearing. So, that'll just be the budget hearing at

[3:26:34] 9:00 a.m. and then >> 9:00 a.m.

[3:26:37] » Our next meeting will be after that.

[3:26:47] » I didn't bring my calendar >> the 22nd. So then we have the 10th and

[3:26:52] the 22nd.

[3:26:58] So that will be

[3:27:02] » yeah so we are having budget meetings

[3:27:07] tomorrow morning and Thursday morning and then we'll have one meeting before

[3:27:12] we actually have our hearing and if we want to do any more budgets we'll see if

[3:27:16] we get it done this week. So we'll be back at 9:00 in the morning.

[3:27:30] Yep. >> That's September.

[3:27:33] » I'll make a motion to journ the meeting. >> Second.

[3:27:37] » All those in favor? >> I I motion carried. Nick's got another

[3:27:40] one to go to.

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