[0:00] It's 10 o'clock, we're going to get the meeting going. It's swapping, man, so it has the same equal. No,

[0:19] it isn't official. All right, so we have a vote to open the meeting at this time and review the minutes.

[0:33] I'll make a motion open the meeting and approve the minutes. Is there

[0:47] any public comment?

[1:16] We're

[1:22] going to

[1:57] have a presentation by Brody Mountain Todd do you mind if we have someone

[2:07] who just wants us to sign the maps to go ahead of you so they don't have to, while you're on the agenda first, so, give it up.

[2:20] So, Louisa?

[2:21] Yeah, okay.

[2:22] The

[2:25] simple A&R, do you guys see that?

[2:34] The simple A&R in a couple of years ago,

[2:42] this was made into a bunch of lots from maybe

[2:46] to two lots and all they're doing is sloppy two equal pieces of land and putting them

[2:55] with the other lot because they need more land here so they're taking it from here and

[3:00] going to this lot.

[3:02] It means all the criteria, if he's a not individual building box, they will be combined

[3:09] in the part of one.

[3:11] So, lot of two's.

[3:13] Configuration will be changed in lot of ones.

[3:15] Configuration will be changed.

[3:16] Is this on Abraham Road?

[3:18] Yes.

[3:19] This is Kelly Lane.

[3:20] Where's their frontage come?

[3:23] I'm seven.

[3:24] I'm seven.

[3:25] They're frontages on seven.

[3:26] No, this is single.

[3:28] Well, this is single.

[3:29] And his frontage is here.

[3:30] And the frontage never changes just like these are the new houses that they've started over there. This one is up here

[3:38] They haven't done this yet and they need this to build his house in his septic over here. Yeah, it's not changing any frontage

[3:48] It's not great separate law. Right. It's gonna be right. It's just a landslide between it's a private thing between two that needs our

[4:04] Yes, that's exactly what it is.

[4:09] Do you have any more questions, or do you, sorry, now that I

[4:16] get it, I take a sense,

[4:18] probably.

[4:18] One level in there or something, probably.

[4:21] Where was the septic system approved?

[4:24] Do you remember?

[4:27] They did one down by, uh,

[4:33] did a little one up on them.

[4:35] So they have to do another?

[4:37] If, they're going to put it up here.

[4:38] They have, they have the drugs here.

[5:01] they do so this piece of property

[5:11] This goes all the way up around, so it's used to hear.

[5:15] In this long shade, this belongs to Arteranis.

[5:19] This belongs to these people over here.

[5:23] Okay.

[5:23] So this is just ended here.

[5:25] What's this dead zone here?

[5:27] This is what is going to attach to this one.

[5:30] And this is going to attach to this one.

[5:33] Is that makes sense?

[5:34] Yes, it does.

[5:35] So no, it's just bound to be here.

[5:36] Plan to land prepared by Matt Kelly in 2020.

[5:39] one. It's going to be donated in there taking this from here. Right. There no one

[5:43] won't it? Yeah. It's not created. It's not created. It's not created. It's not created.

[5:49] Anything that's hidden above. It's pretty straightforward. Yeah. It's a pretty straightforward.

[6:07] Yeah, Robert Shae, okay, does he own both of them?

[6:12] Okay.

[6:14] Sue, do you have a Sharpie in your office by any chance?

[6:22] Oh, I thought somebody's knocked out here.

[6:26] So he owns a little bit on both sides of Cali land.

[6:29] Oh, in my box.

[6:31] Jeff Woodbury.

[6:32] Jeff Woodbury.

[6:32] Thank you.

[6:33] This guy bought 40-some acres.

[6:38] And that's what we approved,

[6:40] original here in the Nyan Heart.

[6:41] Correct.

[6:42] Lauren had some in my box.

[6:43] I'm sorry.

[6:44] Okay.

[6:49] Okay.

[6:51] I'm forced.

[6:53] I don't do this enough to help.

[6:55] Sorry.

[6:58] We don't even know what it is, they wish one, do we sign, we have to sign for that main one always knowing.

[7:04] Also make sure there's a date on this because the registry won't take about a date.

[7:08] Okay, did we do that, not do that last time?

[7:10] No, no, this is happening in another place.

[7:13] That's why I always try to tell everybody.

[7:16] So before we sign, I guess we got, does anybody have any concerns?

[7:20] Yeah.

[7:22] And I will go ahead and make a motion to accept this A&R I think within our guidelines.

[7:29] Thank you.

[7:35] No, this is a Mylar. This is the one you've got to sign with this.

[7:39] Take to the right.

[7:43] And that all has to be signed with that type pet.

[7:46] So

[7:58] let's go ahead and find that Diane.

[8:04] There you go.

[8:08] Oh, really?

[8:09] Yeah.

[8:10] Yeah, no problem.

[8:12] I try.

[8:13] I need it.

[8:14] And you were aware of the new fees.

[8:16] Yes.

[8:17] Already have it checked.

[8:18] Oh, okay.

[8:19] I don't care if you see it.

[8:24] How

[8:32] many need to be signed?

[8:35] Well, we always sign at least three.

[8:37] three. Three? At least three. Yeah. I have them five or two with my measuring. Okay.

[8:52] Haven't signed it too? I've not known. No offense.

[9:02] I was lonely sitting up here. You've been here long ago.

[9:08] Okay. Here. Are you using my

[9:25] I thought I saw it somewhere, here you

[9:34] go, you can do that with a round, okay, no, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, just I can't do it with a round.

[9:46] We have to sign this one. We don't have to sign it.

[9:51] I'll sign off.

[9:53] Okay.

[10:02] Thank you.

[10:03] Thank you.

[10:03] Have a good day.

[10:04] You too.

[10:47] I'm signing off.

[10:48] I have another floor.

[10:50] I'm a bachelor.

[10:50] One of the ones.

[10:56] Tammy, I'm missing one of this one, my dear.

[11:11] Thank you.

[11:13] Thank you, Laura.

[11:15] I'm a bachelor.

[11:18] I'm a bachelor.

[11:23] I'm a bachelor.

[12:55] We will

[13:01] have Todd and his company present.

[13:12] Do you want to just tell us a little bit about what you're doing?

[13:17] Yes.

[13:18] Thanks for everyone showing up today.

[13:20] I didn't expect it to be a big meeting.

[13:21] We didn't either.

[13:21] It's just we've got some conceptual drawings for Brody and we've got some really great guys here today

[13:28] We have Jeff and Wayne from Bowler engineering and Jack Lynch. He's part of the team

[13:33] So I'll pass it off to the brilliant engineers because I don't know

[13:40] Thank you

[13:41] Good morning. Good morning. How are you? I'm Jeff Fitzgerald

[13:46] I'm a professional engineer and certified planner with Bowler, we're a company

[13:57] that's based in Virginia but we have big presence in Boston and in South

[14:03] borough and I'm out of West Hartford, Connecticut. And it's a pleasure to have my

[14:10] my colleague Wayne Violet Landscape Architect and planner with Boehler with me today and to

[14:17] be up here in New Ashford to talk about Brody Mountain. Todd and Brody Mountain Development

[14:29] Retained us to prepare a master plan for a modern all-season Alpine resort village as part of the redevelopment of Brody.

[14:48] You know, I grew up in Connecticut and Brody was something as a young skier was totally on my race.

[15:00] We had our Kelly's Irish Alps, we'd come up here and it was either brought to your chimney peak. And Brody was the skier's mountain. And it had a to a 12-year-old in 1979, it was a cool, what a cool place to be. So, and coming from Connecticut, it was a lot quicker to get here than to go to Vermont.

[15:28] And in the skiing here at Brody was not like Butternut Basin, it was a much more challenging loan.

[15:41] So the master plan that we'll present today is a concept plan, purely conceptual.

[15:49] What that means is what is possible, what can be.

[15:54] So you're not submitting a formal application today?

[15:58] No, no, no.

[15:59] This is informative.

[16:03] And the purpose of this meeting is really to take the

[16:08] temperature of the community.

[16:10] We want to do something with the support of this community.

[16:16] It's not fun to do development when you're

[16:23] And the community opposes you, you know, that's lead that to the industrial developers and that kind of thing.

[16:30] So the master plan we're going to provide the conceptual framework for mountain improvements across the entire 500 acre parcel.

[16:42] Once you see on the right there is the overall 500 acres and it shows a lot of the original ski trails

[16:52] and it shows what you could do with the addition of additional trails and lifts to get to the top.

[17:04] So that just shows you the entire acreage that we're talking about here.

[17:12] And it includes the development of base area facilities and resort village amenities

[17:18] like you would see in any European or American Great Alpine Resort.

[17:27] These includes opportunities for skiing and mountain biking, entertainment restaurants,

[17:34] hospitality, the development of vacation rentals, and second homes, hotels, wedding and

[17:42] Facilities and health benefits of a Nordic-style thermal spa, different from like a

[17:50] Miraval or one of these places where you go and pay a lot of money for a massage, but

[17:54] this is a very health front thing where you can sauna, you can cold plunge, there's facilities

[18:03] for that as part of it.

[18:07] So, it'll be a classic mountain resort appropriate for the Berkshires and have a blend of all these activities, adventure, entertainment, wellness and longevity for a year round experience for visitors and locals.

[18:35] Brody has been closed since early 2000s and the goal is to redevelop it to be the premiere

[18:46] all season mountain resort in New England.

[18:51] This master plan expands on the foundation of the existing resort, which dates back in

[18:59] the century started I think in the 30s skiing on this hill and at high lights opportunities

[19:05] for future recreational use of the ski areas and potential new accommodations in the

[19:12] base area.

[19:14] Updated lidar topography of the site led

[19:20] to the exploration of potential improvements

[19:26] improvements to the ski able terrain, and the plan shifts real estate development away from high density apartments towards lower density slope side vacation homes, town homes and condominiums, all offering ski, the potential for ski in and ski out access this master plan details upgrades for the recreational infrastructure, including adventure and wellness tourism as well as plans for hotel accommodations and new

[19:56] commercial services to support mountain biking and skiing activities,

[20:01] both cross country and downhill at that base village.

[20:08] So with that, I'm going to have Wayne Violet come up and talk through the plan on the left,

[20:21] which is really the base village using the, and it's what's on the screen here as well if you're seeing that and just talk through what is the series of almost neighborhoods and opportunities as you get into this, into the proposed resort, the conceptual plan for this proposed resort.

[20:48] Thanks. Thanks, Wayne. Thanks, everybody. Good morning, Wayne Violet. It was nice that I wasn't introduced as the trouble maker, but it's very possible. That's what I am to be here today. So we've pulled it up on the screen. We have it over on that side of the room. I may move around a little bit because I think it's helpful to point and talk to what we're looking at as Jeff just outlined. Super exciting opportunity for our group to work with Todd and his team on this master plan. We think this area is just

[21:17] Absolutely a gem and we're happy to be part of the master plan just to go back a little bit

[21:22] We started looking at kind of visiting the site visiting the area last year kind of fell in love with the area and have

[21:35] Thank you for

[21:37] No, no, no, please I appreciate that. That's great looking out for us

[21:45] Let's make sure it's not an emergency message and then we'll continue

[21:48] you?

[21:56] No, please. You're good? We're good. Okay. All right. I'm not going to try to trip

[22:02] anybody, but I'm going to slide over to this side here. So as I was saying, 2025, really

[22:08] visited the area quite a bit, spent time looking at the sight and surroundings, really kind

[22:13] of fell in love. And we're hoping you see some of that in the master plan because there's

[22:16] just a lot in there. And I don't know your format of the meeting, but at some point you guys

[22:21] could walk around, take a look at all that information. So I'm actually going to go to this

[22:25] side. Otherwise, you're going to see the wrong side of me here. And so to orient ourselves

[22:31] entry to our 500 acres, our Brody Mountain Master Plan, off of Route 7, there's the

[22:40] Loop Road. There's a little old Route 7. That's exactly right. So it actually acts as a kind

[22:46] of a gateway entry into the site. One of the things is we're filtering, looking at the

[22:51] area talking with Todd in this team. What do we want to accomplish here? And one of the things that rang through very much throughout the entire process was the idea of creating a destination, a public private type of master plan. So at the very entry, kind of into our overall master plan.

[23:11] We have a pedestrian scale resorts no type village at times we call it the Christmas village at times

[23:20] We call it the Irish Christmas village in a variety of different things and what that village is intended to be

[23:28] Small scale you you arrive you park and then you can walk through the village which would be restaurants which would be

[23:35] different services, which would obviously include lodge and amenities for, you know, future or private skiing or other amenities in that regard.

[23:45] But it really kind of vibrant village entry experience right off the kind of the main access point.

[23:53] And that's what's located here on the left hand side at that entry for our master plan.

[23:58] Wait, if you can point to A. Yes, right here.

[24:02] Right there.

[24:03] Okay.

[24:06] As you look towards the entrance to Brody,

[24:09] this is a rendering on the screen

[24:12] of what the scale of the buildings shown there

[24:16] in the scale of pedestrian plaza there

[24:18] would feel would look like.

[24:21] This is the build, the concept plans of those buildings.

[24:26] This is what they couldn't look like

[24:28] If you develop in that style of architecture, again, this is known as proposing that that's what it could be based on the footprints that you see there of two of the buildings.

[24:41] Is that roughly in the location where the former lodge was?

[24:45] Yes.

[24:48] That's a great point.

[24:50] The former lodge is actually was just to the right of the letter, and if you point the A,

[24:56] yeah, just the right in here.

[24:58] So great point.

[25:00] If anyone knows the site in its condition today, much of that entry experience as it is

[25:06] today is cleared and you can fairly get access, that ends probably about right here.

[25:13] There's an existing pond that's out there today that would be very evident if you've been

[25:17] out there.

[25:18] once you get that past this point of the master plan and the plan that we're

[25:22] showing you tend to get into the the access road and kind of woodland area but

[25:27] every yeah that's right so everywhere to the left is kind of what's clear

[25:32] today for the most part and that's where we're visioning that type of

[25:36] village and again we're really looking for that kind of that wild factor something

[25:40] that we think is going to work well in the area you know picking off of things

[25:45] that we've seen locally and we've seen kind of regionally, we think this is really a good feature right here at the end.

[25:52] There are two focal points that are identifiable out there now that are still on the planet,

[25:59] and that's the two main lefts, those, the summit left and the other one,

[26:04] the original summit left, which are the blue lines that you see going up the mountain there,

[26:11] and those are proposed in the ideal thing

[26:14] to be reconstructed in modern conditions.

[26:19] So you can visit us even in the summer,

[26:22] get to the top and mountain bike potential.

[26:25] You'll see on the plan on the right,

[26:28] a restaurant at the original summit net peak

[26:32] to the top that takes advantage of the views on up there

[26:35] and is able to have a unique experience up there

[26:40] for people all year round. And so those two lists are the original locations of those

[26:48] at the base are preserved and intended to be rebuilt in those same areas.

[26:56] She's at the end of these in grants.

[26:58] Sure, but I don't know if you can talk about dots.

[27:01] Yeah, dots, dots is the first one, then the,

[27:05] the one that was put on.

[27:06] And that one is, these can be fairly different things.

[27:10] So while your policy would be down the little part,

[27:15] and you know, housing, moving to the.

[27:19] All in group A, all in the A area.

[27:20] Yeah, we're going to definitely cover that.

[27:22] So primarily in the A area in that village,

[27:25] is really intended to be, there could be housing above active first floor, which would be restaurants and things of that nature.

[27:34] But a lot of the residential, the vacation homes and things that will walk through are as you move out of that base area,

[27:43] as you move out of that large area to the right hand side of this master plan.

[27:49] I didn't see how many were

[27:55] given to that.

[27:56] I kind of interrupted Wayne on the progression through because he's going to walk you through

[28:05] all of the different housing types and hospitality types because there's hotel space there as well

[28:21] So yes, we will cover the number of units, and that's happening, but it please keep the questions coming.

[28:27] As someone who sat through, this will be the third one of these developments I've seen here.

[28:32] And it's very similar to the very first one that I proposed.

[28:36] Conceptually, I think it's a good idea, but are you aware of?

[28:40] There's a 15-foot elevation, which you can't develop above, and also there should be approximately 90 acres in there with a permanent, excuse me, a 50-year east conservation

[28:54] lean on it. Could you point those two points out? Could you show us where 1500 feet is, and roughly where that property is that's currently being conserved?

[29:06] If I haven't listed here, the 1,500 elevation mark, I know I brought my glasses for a reason.

[29:20] Maybe I'll be on the overall.

[29:24] I think it's actually listed here as well.

[29:26] So we have the 1,500 and again I'm just based on my eyes here.

[29:31] We have it running right through this area, that 1,500 and then we have that 1,500 elevation

[29:41] wrapping and it's basically like this area would be 1,500 and lower. So

[29:47] everything above this area and there's a little bit here that would be above

[29:52] that 1,500 elevation that you were just referencing. So this area plus or

[29:57] minus I might be missing a little bit but this area is

[30:05] Okay.

[30:09] And then the second question, I don't know if we've, uh, I'm not, if we're, I've never seen anything. The conservation. Yeah.

[30:16] We're supposed to have been filed on, uh, the second application with snowy owl, turned the registry of deans. I believe it is. I don't know that for sure. I think that's if they, I don't think if I remember correctly.

[30:31] I don't think that was one of the conditions, that was one of the agreements that was

[30:35] to be done.

[30:37] If it wasn't pertaining to if the development would be, if it went ahead, it would be put

[30:46] on the property.

[30:47] But if it is, we'd love to take a look at it.

[30:50] Laura is on the Conservation Committee and she's saying it's a 99-year, 99-year lease.

[30:57] It's on the registry of deeds, yep, okay.

[30:59] Normally, they were 99 years. I'm not disputing you, but just particularly remember it was a sticking point

[31:08] And we agreed to a 50 if I remember that was the planning

[31:13] But usually the state requires a

[31:16] Something for you to look into

[31:22] We received a bunch of documents and I have not seen that now

[31:29] access, and if it can be adjusted, the goal is to, when we plan a project like this,

[31:40] you try and envision, as much as you get, you try and vision the best project that works

[31:53] the best for here. That's sustainable. That means when I say sustainable, I don't naturally,

[32:00] you mean that terms are sustainable in two sizes of it. It's got to be environmentally sound

[32:06] and all that and that it's not going to impact the community and the environment. But it also has

[32:13] to be sustainable in that it's going to last forever. It's going to be a community. It's going to

[32:21] be a village not that has a boom in a bus and go back to it, but that people want to own

[32:28] invest and maintain and live in and support if you're from the outside and that's what sustainable

[32:38] means to me. So the components of that are it's got to it's got to be beautiful, it's got to be

[32:44] impactful. It's got to have a density of experiences and places there so that it

[32:51] so that it does create a place. You can't just put one building there and say

[32:57] this is going to be an awesome thing because it'll be lost in the realm of

[33:02] world. So for sustainability, that's what the master plan is meant to show us a

[33:07] a project in a place that will sustain for hundreds of years.

[33:13] And so that's what we'd like to throw out here.

[33:18] I spent about a year with Horobot and Berkshire

[33:22] and all the conservation groups don't know this property

[33:26] and David Rothschild passed away when he got made, of course.

[33:31] He really did with this mountain and the mountain ridge

[33:33] the fact of his hand, he was great.

[33:36] So we're very conscious of conservation.

[33:40] And by the way, I love the most important migration trail

[33:44] in New England, all kinds of fun stuff.

[33:48] So this isn't just a skevers work.

[33:50] I know it was a skevers over talking a lot about skevers.

[33:53] It seems like a good skevers, isn't it?

[33:55] This is going to be multifaceted.

[33:57] I'll main anchor at the base over there

[33:58] if you can see it from here.

[34:00] is a European spa concept, which is huge in Europe.

[34:04] And it's just starting to get traction here in the States.

[34:08] And it's a hot cold water under the concept.

[34:11] Those places do very well.

[34:13] There's an amphitheater for concerts, of course, restaurants,

[34:16] bars, volume room.

[34:18] We're thinking of Irish Christmas,

[34:20] home art, a village field, ice skating, vacation rooms,

[34:25] weddings, hotel, of course.

[34:28] And that's where we're going with it.

[34:31] But there's also mountain biking, which is huge,

[34:32] and also huge for the local economy.

[34:35] Vienna has a earth shake, a rich run on the other side of the mountain.

[34:39] It's all about running lose dollars.

[34:42] Here, spend the dollars here.

[34:43] You have 16 million tourists going to Vermont every year.

[34:46] There's only four ways of getting to Vermont,

[34:47] one of those roads, because right by our mountain.

[34:50] And those people are spending the money in Vermont.

[34:52] Why do I drive the extra three, four out?

[34:54] You can place right here.

[34:55] So that's kind of the idea.

[34:56] get in the stock here, it's not just for streaming,

[34:59] it's multi-season things, it's a facility, it's an event.

[35:02] It's disinvolved, the building is really working.

[35:06] So I just talked through the little neighborhoods

[35:10] in the plan and up to the problem data.

[35:13] Yeah, so that's great.

[35:15] So we started with A, which was that village.

[35:17] And again, what we're seeing here,

[35:18] this is an image where it is now,

[35:20] some of the next steps talk about open space phasing.

[35:24] This is the overall everything shown here as far as a phasing, you know, that'll come later

[35:29] But but A is that village we've been talking about that great village B is that wellness spot that you know really

[35:37] Great area for that. We've dedicated probably three or four acres worth of not only building but outdoor amenities for that particular use

[35:44] They really love it, you know that experience is outdoor pools

[35:49] and

[35:50] and medications, bases, and the ability to go from hot to cold very quickly and have a lot of acreage there to climb up the base of the mountain.

[36:02] Yeah. C&D, we have surface level parking. We've got an adequate amount of service our daily needs.

[36:08] Anytime we're at a, you know, max capacity, we've got overflow parking shown as part of this plan.

[36:14] E and F were those two existing ski lifts that would be part of this kind of base area revitalization.

[36:22] G, this area, we start to get into, if once we've built this anchor and the framework

[36:27] of this great village, the vibrant village here at the base, G is a neighborhood of town

[36:32] home residential units and from a quantity standpoint, per the plan right now, again, it's

[36:40] just approximately, we're showing about 60 town home units in this particular cluster,

[36:45] which is just above an elevation that, you know, mixed village at the base.

[36:52] Then as we move up, we have another surface parking area that kind of caps the village

[36:56] that's letter H. Then we're moving out of that, that base area that people know of is kind

[37:02] of the cleared area where the lodges and the lifts are.

[37:05] And we get into this side of the development right side or north side of the area.

[37:10] And one thing that we wanted to look for that area is how can we include a mix of residential

[37:15] types of vacation homes, rentals, ownership options as we move here.

[37:22] So with I, the first kind of area or neighborhood that we're coming through, and we're trying

[37:28] to utilize a lot of the existing access drives are out there now, but little modifications

[37:33] to it.

[37:34] For I, we've got multi-unit buildings, think condo,

[37:38] think vacation rental, there's one that exists out there today

[37:42] as part of the snowy owl development,

[37:44] similar but a little bit more modern.

[37:47] So for those kind of multi-unit buildings,

[37:50] right now we're envisioning those 12 unit buildings.

[37:52] We have about 80 of those units in total.

[37:55] That would represent this area just north of the base village.

[38:01] And then as we get to our next kind of largest neighborhood area here, very much vacation rentals.

[38:10] One of the things that we've looked at and you'll see a little bit described on the plans is these are really ski and ski out type vacation rentals.

[38:18] They could be anywhere from singles to duplexes, which would be two units all the way up to four units combined depending on how the framework ends up.

[38:27] but we have a roadway network that we think works with the grades allows for ski

[38:32] and ski out capacity and really kind of frames this end and kind of really works

[38:38] with the topography on that side of the site. For those particular vacation homes

[38:43] again this is a master plan as where we stand today we're showing approximately

[38:48] 110 of those types of units but again those numbers are going to be you know

[38:53] refined as the as the plan moves forward but that's what's shown here. One thing I

[38:59] will say is this is one of two new ski lifts that we're showing as part of

[39:05] this master plan. We've got the two existing at the base which we know of. This

[39:10] is a new one here to really help capture that ski and ski outability for the

[39:17] large number of units that we have on this side of the site. And then if your

[39:23] their eyes have been wondering that I'm going to get to it. What is this up here? That's

[39:28] interesting. So if you spent some time there and if you've explored whether you're able

[39:32] to or not, there's an access drive that takes you up to this north end of the project site

[39:38] and then you kind of arrive at an existing VISTA that according to Todd, I could see, you

[39:44] know, three countries away or something like that. But you could see quite a ways and it's

[39:48] fantastic this so part of this master plan we're showing a mountain top kind of

[39:53] resort hotel type of use at this area so we're showing a building here for

[40:00] for all sake of the purposes this represents about a hundred hundred room

[40:07] hotel resort type space with parking that would service it we've got a

[40:12] How did it to be a, you know, a wedding banquet, the show, really picture

[40:21] taking

[40:22] opportunities? So that would not be permanent. People could not come and stay

[40:27] there. It wouldn't be permanent houses. Yeah. And we do have, we have two

[40:36] access ways. One that kind of cycles you through the vacation on community. But

[40:42] So we have a dedicated access way that would take you primarily up to the hotel mountain

[40:48] top resort area over on that right-hand side.

[40:54] And then just quickly over here, because we kind of jumped to the fun color stuff and

[41:00] there's plenty of colors here, but this is as Jeff had mentioned, this is the overall map

[41:05] of the site 510 or 12 acres in this area.

[41:09] where we were just focusing on is the bottom of page,

[41:12] which is actually the east side of the site.

[41:15] As you can see, the majority of the site at this point

[41:18] in the master plan remains untouched.

[41:20] A lot of these white dash lines represent ski slopes

[41:24] that are existing today or potentially future ones

[41:26] that we might want to consider.

[41:28] We have one other element located kind of near the top

[41:31] of the elevation near the top of the ski lifts,

[41:36] which is a potential for a restaurant, kind of an observation area located just

[41:43] adjacent to where one of the ski lifts exits near the top. We think that would

[41:47] be a fantastic also addition to this master plan, and that shows here. One

[41:53] of the things I'll mention is we do have a the second new ski lift that's

[41:58] located on the southwestern corner on this particular map. This ski lift is a, you

[42:06] term Jeff can help me with, but, uh,

[42:08] it's a creation of a new bowl basically on that side.

[42:11] There was a, there was an opportunity there looking at the

[42:13] grain that you could add.

[42:15] If, if desired, you could add a new bowl with a,

[42:19] a left that shirt, that area,

[42:21] open up some previously unskiable.

[42:24] Is all this in the town in Washington?

[42:27] Is it part of that and Lane's girl or am I mistaken?

[42:30] The, I believe the 500 acres on the,

[42:34] Everything is in the town in Western

[42:38] Because I'm a little familiar with the mountain top

[42:40] It just seems though that ball was over on the other side

[42:44] No, it's a little piece a little carve-out on that

[42:49] And that's only because I mentioned that Kelly's used the park the buses there in the winter

[42:56] They made an ice bridge over the over the stream

[43:04] but that's not things for all, that's what we're doing.

[43:06] No.

[43:06] It's relatively small, it's probably very interesting.

[43:12] And one thing just to revisit getting back to the question.

[43:15] So based on the master plan, as it sits at the moment,

[43:18] as far as units that include hotels,

[43:20] or approximately over 400 units,

[43:23] residential and or hotel rooms

[43:24] that we're showing as part of this current master plan.

[43:28] And then these numbers again are subject to change,

[43:31] and they're just where we are right now.

[43:33] But it's about 100,000 square feet of kind of a commercial

[43:36] restaurant, kind of, you know, village-y space, kind of at the bottom. Plus or minus those

[43:42] numbers, but that's what we're showing here, as we're the master plan stands at moment.

[43:47] Question, yeah. How close is the development with the hotel part in the circular

[43:52] scheme here to your units to the top of the ridge of the mountain? Yeah, were you asking

[43:58] how close this is to the top of the ridge? To the ridge that runs,

[44:05] you know,

[44:05] I'm looking how close you are to the development is to a butter itself.

[44:10] Okay.

[44:11] And it's a bit visual.

[44:13] Yeah.

[44:14] Mark, I'm not aware of any of the butter is up there that it's just before, to the north of the site, which is this area, this is all, this is all fully wooded.

[44:32] This is the property.

[44:35] Neil said that the top is where the turbine's are here.

[44:40] Right, but I don't have a burden here.

[44:41] Yeah.

[44:42] This is the gneelsins between us.

[44:45] Neil says between us.

[44:47] Yeah, to the to the ridge, we can certainly provide that information.

[44:51] But just to our property line, which again, just imaginary line,

[44:55] we're pretty close to where we're trying to put that.

[44:57] So that's anywhere from 50 to 100 feet.

[45:00] From the property line, but that's not necessarily the rich, which is your question. Yeah, I'm just wondering, you're just going to be a homeless and make new sludge. The maintenance law is really weird. Yeah, so that is actually located here in this corner here.

[45:15] That's where the abutters are, we're talking about, right?

[45:19] Well, there's abutters everywhere.

[45:20] I mean, each hill goes up and you'll let that.

[45:22] Yeah, that's good.

[45:23] Yeah, that's good.

[45:24] That's right.

[45:26] You know what I'm saying.

[45:28] Yeah, I'm just...

[45:29] Yeah, I know.

[45:30] That's good.

[45:30] I'd love to be a concern for me if I was an abutter.

[45:34] Yeah, yeah.

[45:35] I have a lot of space, so maybe...

[45:38] Yeah, good point.

[45:39] Yeah, where this is located?

[45:41] It's really close to the property corner itself.

[45:44] Yeah, which would be in the butter.

[45:49] Again, in details of sub-facts and e-frames and things like that, can all be discussed

[45:56] if an actual application would get prepared.

[46:01] Good to know that that would be better.

[46:03] Well, it's just not taking my usual interest.

[46:05] The idea is to have any development for both buildings as much view of the

[46:15] from their approach up there, it's a maximum, so we have to wait, okay, so it isn't too

[46:22] big of a role for the aim of speaking to people to get that.

[46:25] Do you have to give a soloist plan?

[46:27] I don't have the soloist plan, but I don't have to give a soloist plan, it's pretty much the same.

[46:34] It's the same area of development pretty much.

[46:53] And Wayne's got here now kind of a blow-up of the village, the spa, the townhomes and

[47:04] the base area for the two left and some precedent images of what those faces could look like.

[47:18] Yeah, and so we've walked through the master plan. This is just a little bit more eye candy and a little bit more.

[47:23] Hey, what does it look like? What does it feel like how we're envisioning it?

[47:26] So this is a fraction of the kind of precedent and imagery that we've been kind of capturing along the way.

[47:33] but someone had mentioned I mean like you know the heart of this bill it feels like

[47:36] it wants to have a ice ring you know features green spaces all those kinds of

[47:41] things and that's kind of what we're envisioning to be here you would park and

[47:44] arrive you would cycle through this particular area whether you're going for you

[47:49] know summertime activities whether it's winter activities just a really great

[47:53] place to put Brody back on the map and so again we've walked through a lot of

[47:57] these components but just gives you a few more pictures to look along the way

[48:04] Yeah, yeah, that's right and one of the things I hit it on in an Irish thing that we caught on that

[48:14] Right away, and what's the name of that that's what's the name of that yeah, so it was just convenient that it was just convenient

[48:21] That I was in Ireland that in 2025 and we were talking about all this. So this is the double and our

[48:28] Temple Bar, Temple Bar, which we, we somewhat scaled based on this building number two, which

[48:38] is located here at the center of the area, but again, vibrant, active, music, you know.

[48:44] The reason we loved Temple Bar is that in, in summer you go there and it's great, there's

[48:51] a lot of music on it.

[48:52] they're trying to go crazy making the Christmas decorations on the temple bar and double.

[48:57] And it's gorgeous.

[48:58] And I'm like, OK, we want this to be an amazing Christmas, though.

[49:02] But we also want it to be a place that sustains itself through the summer

[49:06] for throughout its activity.

[49:08] So it has a lot of room with your eyes.

[49:10] And music, one of the other things in time talked about an amphitheater.

[49:15] We talked about it because it was a small stage and a large stage of opportunity

[49:18] each in that plaza, given what happens in the next single one, the amount of great musicians

[49:28] that come up there and learn college students and stuff. You have the ability to program

[49:35] life music in a place like this all through the summer and through the winter.

[49:45] That's

[49:46] of the very near and near my heart and we try and accommodate that in the initial plan.

[49:53] How can you activate these spaces with use and that's what separates us and with the

[50:01] natural environment, how you activate these spaces and so that's what we try to achieve

[50:08] in this plan.

[50:12] So that's our walk-through. We're excited to be part of it with Todd and his

[50:17] kind of ventures and Todd and the team, his ventures here. But opening up to

[50:22] questions, I know you guys have had some along the way, but happy to address

[50:25] any of those. I have a couple if you don't mind. Yeah. What are your height for

[50:31] buildings? We are concerned about our entire department. We don't have

[50:34] ladders. We don't have any of that kind of stuff for volunteer. Towns around us are

[50:38] all volunteer. Right. A lot of money in there could go up. So what is what height of your buildings

[50:45] and do you have anything that we could help the town with that? I know you have ponds, fire ponds

[50:51] and stuff up there. Sure. We haven't designed any buildings yet. So you know the the imagery shows

[51:00] three story which might be appropriate for here which is you know a typical house

[51:08] a good colonial house that is two-and-a-half story, right, but sometimes I find that so it's

[51:15] not a, that's fine. If we had more robust infrastructure, maybe you'd go to four stories in

[51:24] the village, but as the max, but I think three-story is the max that we propose right now in that village

[51:32] area, and then as you go into the town homes, they'd be, you know, two-and-a-half story, like a typical,

[51:36] typical colonial home. I think William's town is the only one in my correct

[51:41] with a ladder truck. And they're... I don't know, I think they have a... I think they must

[51:48] have to... In those would be... Jiminy, you know, commercial buildings in the

[51:52] building would have to have spring flows and fire pumps. Todd, do you know if

[52:02] I just wondered because I'm, you know, three and four, I mean, even some of the houses in here are trucks would not be able to.

[52:11] The commercial spaces would be fully sprinkled with, you know, and you'd have a water system that would be pressurized in order if we need fire pumps.

[52:20] That's just a concern with height and stuff.

[52:23] of course. But we're not, again, we, we haven't started. I understand, but this is an

[52:28] informational thing. You're looking for input, correct? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know anything

[52:34] about so far. We're doing three-story townhands. Three-story walk-ups. There's three-story structure

[52:41] on the property already, so we'll assume that that would be. Is that building going to

[52:46] be removed? Actually, yeah. It's not occupied or anything at this point. No. There's

[52:59] Yeah, so that existing three-story walk-up is a prox here.

[53:06] Not really.

[53:06] It's approximately, I think it's here actually, I'm bouncing my finger around, but it's

[53:11] essentially here and exists today in its current state.

[53:16] Yes, and its current state.

[53:20] No, that's great.

[53:21] This is awesome.

[53:23] How are you going to control, we have no police department, state police, come in, so it

[53:29] would kind of be your responsibility for noise control, traffic control, all that.

[53:34] How are you thinking about doing that in this conceptual idea?

[53:38] Sure.

[53:39] Sure.

[53:39] Thank God.

[53:42] Yeah, for noise control, I mean that would have to be coordinated with the town and

[53:47] agree upon with the sound. There's a lot of ways to restrict time. At this point you're not

[53:52] thinking that you have security or something like that. If you have the great decommertial

[54:00] village there, they'll need to be private security. As far as noise control in the zone by

[54:06] law, there's some control over that. They're limited to light. Some hours of operation that

[54:13] could be. And signs. And I'm sure decibel control at the property line. And that's where you

[54:20] kind of create a village within the loudest part is in the center of it. And that's where you,

[54:27] you know. You've got an expel on there that handles the business with the solitude that management

[54:31] has had for three years, three months, ten acts a day. Yeah, we're at small town. We don't want

[54:43] do you think of windmills at all?

[54:47] I'm a big farmer.

[54:48] I want a cable to those windmills.

[54:49] I'll do some batteries on the ground.

[54:52] For, I just wondered if you were going in that direction

[54:57] to kill our birds.

[54:58] No, no, we're, honestly, I'm not a big fan of those

[55:02] turbines.

[55:03] I just found that they drove up there.

[55:07] I know that.

[55:08] I just didn't know if you were thinking of putting more.

[55:10] No, no, no, no.

[55:11] functional. They all are functional at different times. Yeah, they never hardly work together.

[55:19] Can we want this to be something? My experience on the moment is that you don't

[55:24] experience the turbines when you're on the mountain. Thank God and we want to sort of

[55:30] keep it that way. Yeah, and if people work here, you can see them on this map with the

[55:38] the access or other located here, which is essentially kind of top of slope in this particular area, so.

[55:44] How do you mean top side, right, and meant to save money, right?

[55:50] You haven't addressed where your maintenance facilities and so forth are going to be on that property in conjunction, because that's a no,

[55:58] well, potential issue with the butters.

[56:01] And the other two issues I'm a little concerned with, you haven't addressed water or sewage.

[56:07] There was a water facility at the top of the mountain.

[56:10] I don't know if it was ever completed.

[56:13] And I believe back when Silverleaf,

[56:16] they were talking a sewage treatment plant.

[56:19] Yes.

[56:20] And is that still on the board?

[56:22] Yes.

[56:22] They have a, they have a sewable,

[56:24] they've had a approval for, I think,

[56:26] 85,000 gallons a day for the DEP,

[56:30] mass DEP approved treatment facility

[56:33] that is in that permanent place now, depending upon phasing, and what we show here is we

[56:44] generate more than 85,000 gallons a day, and in order to build that, we need to have

[56:50] an approved system by the D.P. that has all that.

[56:55] So that's-

[56:55] And that was all through the state channels, five.

[56:57] And I believe there was, they weren't, they, it was to be phased in with the silver

[57:04] leaf. So there was an existing system that they put in for that current building.

[57:10] That was only, I can't remember exactly for a certain amount, but before they were to

[57:14] progress any further, they had to go with a, and same with the water.

[57:20] The existing system is, the existing septic system that's always certain, is underneath

[57:24] that parking lot. The old, the old Brody. Yes. And I think that that's what

[57:30] smelly is that silver leaf was. Once they went over capacity, the free building and the water facility,

[57:38] they started and I think they might have put a tank up there. Well, they've got a grinder tank

[57:43] behind that toilet. That's what you refer to. No, no, no water. And that was above the 1,500 foot.

[57:50] And those are some of the things that are allowed in the overlay district above that 1,500 foot marker.

[57:59] Now, that hotel you're talking about is above that.

[58:05] So it would currently under the purge, I don't believe that would be allowed.

[58:10] And there's also a piece of property in there that has some environmental issues that I don't know if they're ever remediated.

[58:18] Is that in that area?

[58:22] Yes.

[58:23] We've dealt with the D.D. on that.

[58:25] Everything is in compliance.

[58:27] We also do have the comment that silver we had for the waste water,

[58:31] the water proof for that.

[58:32] And we have that special time.

[58:35] Right.

[58:35] But I think they would all have to be resummitted under this new proposal.

[58:40] We've already discussed everything.

[58:42] What's done to everything is up to date.

[58:49] How do you consider a snow making ability?

[59:05] I thought one of the deed restrictions when there's a 30-year

[59:11] jurisdiction on the downhill public street.

[59:17] So that would be strictly private than the humanities as far as the scheme.

[59:22] I hope that by the time this is built, I mean that 30 years will be nearly up.

[59:27] We're not out there yet.

[59:29] We'll be close.

[59:34] That's what we're thinking.

[59:46] It's too early to say.

[59:48] I don't think it's about it.

[59:51] I know as a member sitting on this board going through two of these previously.

[59:57] The second one, I believe.

[1:00:00] This board didn't do its deal diligence. We didn't require the amenities that our resort district requires us to do, whereas this appears to have those, which is, I think, it is going in the right direction. And I think, but and you also, but one of the key things you haven't addressed is, you haven't addressed traffic to the town. You haven't addressed taxes. What is this going to generate? And, you know,

[1:00:29] So I know you always oversell it, always oversell it.

[1:00:33] And then you always come back afterwards and you want a little either an abatement or

[1:00:38] it didn't work this way, you know, I think the town deserves to know those things.

[1:00:46] We're

[1:00:48] not saying this is what it will be, we tried to show you the grand vision, maybe it doesn't have to get skilled back, maybe you don't have enough water out capacity, and that's really what they take everything, because we can't have it against them.

[1:01:00] Another concern is the number for me as a town payer is the number of permanent structures and possible generation of school children, which really taxists.

[1:01:14] Yeah, you had that conversation with the Selecman one day, so nothing will ever be

[1:01:22] deeded out when you say second homes somebody comes in here and spends 1.5 million

[1:01:26] builds a home. They're not going to own the property title to that. You are. Is that correct?

[1:01:33] That couldn't be converted into housing. The general power done.

[1:01:40] And then similarly at Jiminy, that whole Bentley Brook project that they did, yes, but

[1:01:46] I mean, they did it out that piece of property.

[1:01:49] And then now that company is going bankrupt.

[1:01:51] I mean, I think the town would want some assurance that something like that would not happen

[1:01:57] here.

[1:02:00] No.

[1:02:03] But some power.

[1:02:07] Well, I mean, you've got to bring in.

[1:02:10] Yes.

[1:02:12] Yeah.

[1:02:12] Yeah. Yeah. But what we understand, when them every 15 to 20 years,

[1:02:18] recycle a bunch of their locations and the ones that they don't want to

[1:02:23] operate, they just get rid of it. And that one is on their list.

[1:02:28] That's what we understand after looking over.

[1:02:31] So again, we'll plug up more. But that's an answer to this.

[1:02:36] The timing of it is online. Yeah.

[1:02:39] We're also talking about having some really good habits on this project that will drive everything we're talking about.

[1:02:49] This is going to be a destination for people to come to and enjoy being in that room, enjoy the brochures,

[1:02:55] or the amenities that are around us, the history, the arts and the culture.

[1:03:00] And of course, as far as spending them on their own property,

[1:03:13] it's not an area.

[1:03:15] Did you mention second homes?

[1:03:18] Well no, vacation homes. Second homes are people that they may spend the summer out here and summer in Cuba.

[1:03:28] There's a winter in Cuba where we have these homes and second homes.

[1:03:32] They will home the homes as a second home.

[1:03:36] Oh, they're coming.

[1:03:40] It's going to be marketed as a vacation investment.

[1:03:44] I've got the ski areas throughout the Northeast.

[1:03:47] It's the good ones, successful ones.

[1:03:51] I've got vacation homes.

[1:03:53] They don't own land.

[1:03:55] It's like a condom in Maine.

[1:03:56] But it can be a single family home.

[1:03:58] It can be a...

[1:04:00] You don't have rights.

[1:04:01] I use it.

[1:04:03] Who's a general second home?

[1:04:08] I can't see if the other questions.

[1:04:12] I

[1:04:15] mean, even over at Fairbanks property, I think you had before five people that were

[1:04:21] turned out live on site, and the May of had children over the years.

[1:04:25] So if you weigh at what the benefit of the ever not the benefit through the town is

[1:04:30] versus a couple of kids at tax and school systems.

[1:04:35] So,

[1:04:39] any other questions?

[1:04:40] Um,

[1:04:45] can you build something?

[1:04:48] Do you have all of the ones obvious?

[1:04:49] Like so.

[1:04:50] Yeah.

[1:04:51] I know.

[1:04:53] What's going on yourself?

[1:04:54] It's not going to happen.

[1:04:55] Or come to finish this.

[1:04:57] What's going on, or sit down.

[1:04:58] Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[1:05:00] Yeah.

[1:05:01] You know what that means.

[1:05:02] It makes sense logistically, as far as dealing with this type of construction is hard to do a piece

[1:05:08] and that really beats it. And as far as summit, I mean, so a house without a doubt, so you really need it.

[1:05:16] It's really good for me to be able to do it.

[1:05:18] And you know the utility is my christ Russia.

[1:05:21] I don't know why.

[1:05:22] It's a sustainable threshold to have creative plays.

[1:05:26] So you do want to make sure you can find it.

[1:05:29] You can pay for or build something that creates that place.

[1:05:33] to say, again, don't you think you can't just talk to someone else in the group?

[1:05:37] I don't think I can do this on.

[1:05:43] Do you have a name for this?

[1:05:47] Worked out?

[1:05:47] Already.

[1:05:49] You've got 100 years worth of marketing, how do we do that?

[1:05:51] We're going to keep the room.

[1:05:52] I like voting out in a second.

[1:05:54] It's something that's boring.

[1:05:55] It's quite boring.

[1:05:56] I don't know.

[1:05:57] I think I'd go.

[1:05:58] Nice.

[1:05:58] And when you will take down the snowy, snowy, I'm sorry.

[1:06:02] I have to talk to the adults about that.

[1:06:05] and it was not a proper?

[1:06:08] No, not a proper.

[1:06:10] I see.

[1:06:11] It's not a proper meeting.

[1:06:13] It's a state where I mean, you use a nice old, new, seven

[1:06:16] when they replaced the bridge.

[1:06:19] I mean, you know that came old and seven first, didn't?

[1:06:21] They're good there, but I know that.

[1:06:23] You need a customer to go up tonight.

[1:06:27] I think you should.

[1:06:29] Steve, you had another question.

[1:06:31] And any idea when you're going to start submitting some concrete

[1:06:37] proposals or apply for your master plan?

[1:06:41] Do you have a time frame?

[1:06:43] I think we are in this, like I mentioned, very

[1:06:46] in this section, but it's significant in this case.

[1:06:52] No base tenants and who are based partners for attractions.

[1:07:12] in one of my reasons is for asking that. I mean the planning board has the option and

[1:07:16] I think we should exercise it to hire a project manager at your expense.

[1:07:27] And the project

[1:07:28] And I also think we need some input with our local building inspector she may I'm assuming it's still the same person

[1:07:35] I don't know

[1:07:37] May need

[1:07:39] additional help

[1:07:49] Because if I remember for the first project

[1:07:53] That brought our Jimmie submitted we did hire project manager and I don't remember if we went through Berkshire regional to do it or if

[1:08:03] We, and I don't even remember who he was, the honest with you.

[1:08:08] That sounds right.

[1:08:11] But I mean, but, but, all the side, I mean, there's a process to hire and we need time

[1:08:16] to do that too, because once you submit, we have 95 days and 90 or 95 to, to, to begin

[1:08:25] holding public hands. And then this is strictly conceptual, so I mean, and

[1:08:35] quite often and in both

[1:08:38] cases, which didn't materialize, but we were always pressured under one. We got to get heads on

[1:08:45] beds. We got to take advantage of the building climate, the building season. You know, I don't think

[1:08:52] the small board needs to have that pressure.

[1:08:56] And I think being fair to the town because

[1:09:02] this is going to impact the town in Washington. And it can impact, I think, very positively.

[1:09:18] Oh, yeah, definitely. But we didn't, I don't think with snow at all. And that's another

[1:09:23] place where I think we didn't do a new diligence.

[1:09:26] I think it took us two years, if I remember right, just to write the by-law because it wasn't

[1:09:35] allowed in that area at the time and under the current by-laws is the per because you're

[1:09:40] in an overlay district.

[1:09:41] You're not in the commercial zone anymore.

[1:09:46] You're really only in rural residential with an overlay.

[1:09:58] on that side. It's doesn't just entail this property. It entails, I think, up to

[1:10:05] larges, but I think it's everything on Route 7 to the west of Route 7 from the

[1:10:12] Lanesboro Line to Mallory Road. If I remember right. Because you could, you can't

[1:10:19] You can't approve a district on only one piece of property because then it's considered spot zoning and that is that's why and at the time

[1:10:31] I think and they could be four or five properties in there. I don't know now.

[1:10:38] What is that? What's that spot? There's five.

[1:10:49] There's five.

[1:10:50] that is in the overlay district.

[1:10:52] Okay, okay.

[1:10:53] That would be to the west of Route 7.

[1:10:56] So, the task will go on here.

[1:10:59] Yeah, yeah.

[1:10:59] Hopping up here.

[1:11:01] No, I thought it went to the,

[1:11:06] I don't remember if it split the old spring's restaurant

[1:11:12] or not.

[1:11:14] Okay.

[1:11:15] Because you guys didn't go back very far.

[1:11:19] But I don't know how that, that's okay.

[1:11:21] But I mean, there is an overlap, and it's defined, it's defined.

[1:11:25] We

[1:11:28] had a great memory.

[1:11:30] Yeah, any other questions?

[1:11:34] Well, I think that was very informative, and we appreciate your time.

[1:11:38] Thank you.

[1:11:39] Appreciate it, Harris.

[1:11:39] Thank you for having me on the line.

[1:11:54] Next on, the agenda, the discussion on the mill and the cost,

[1:12:01] we just came in and did that.

[1:12:04] So an ADU update, we have gotten a filing back from the attorney general, and they have approved our ADU with, with, with deletion of the permanent.

[1:12:25] We cannot have a permanent foundation, so they took that away from us.

[1:12:31] So it could be, Jason and I got, yeah, we got it, it's been approved, so, I don't know.

[1:12:44] So they, they took that out of it, the idea of a permanent foundation, did they give

[1:12:50] a reason?

[1:12:51] Let me see what I see if I can open it here.

[1:13:09] Standard of view.

[1:13:11] One view I go.

[1:13:12] Don't.

[1:13:18] Under the power of disapproval, fundamental that every

[1:13:30] I would think that would still retain the bill and expected depending on the structure.

[1:13:36] It doesn't, because you don't require the foundation wouldn't be, it could, it

[1:13:40] doesn't mean it could be a mobile home, it could be, do they,

[1:13:52] I thought the lawyer did tell me but it was something to do with we already had language

[1:13:59] in the bylaws that addressed it and so they took it out is what I remember but I can

[1:14:07] write it down.

[1:14:07] But I don't think that would take any authority away from the building inspector as far as structure as far as I

[1:14:17] Didn't read it. I don't know. I'm just curious. That's the only thing they found. That's the only thing that they everything else was in when did you get notification of this Diane?

[1:14:26] this was sent in to us in December okay so it was sent to Jason and I so the

[1:14:43] ADU laws are in yeah our bylaws are in effect we're not under strictly state

[1:14:52] Any questions on that? I'll try to find the exact language that lawyer said he'd

[1:14:57] discuss it with me later, so.

[1:15:01] Any unforeseen business? All

[1:15:06] righty. Could I have a vote on adjourning? And it's accepting our. Yes.

[1:15:18] Are we doing something with that was Luigi or how are we? Louisa? Oh, I thought we were doing another thing from. Now it was discussion on the mill on the

[1:15:30] lost. That was what she was with the land, right? Wasn't that a state what they

[1:15:37] are. Finally, we are working with the Alliance.

[1:15:42] I couldn't get a hold of her.

[1:15:46] So I went out and I got all the

[1:15:48] information. The rail church should call me yesterday. So that's going to get started

[1:15:55] with them getting the permit to do the title five. So that is in the works finally.

[1:16:01] I'm not sure what you're talking about.

[1:16:04] We're finding.

[1:16:05] Oh, we're finding.

[1:16:06] Oh, OK.

[1:16:07] Yeah.

[1:16:07] OK.

[1:16:08] OK.

[1:16:10] Oh, did you want to do it?

[1:16:11] Do you use up there?

[1:16:12] No.

[1:16:13] No, no, no.

[1:16:15] No, not that I'm aware of.

[1:16:17] This is for the Board of Health, right?

[1:16:19] The only one we've had is that.

[1:16:21] Is that for the Board of Health?

[1:16:22] They're talking about getting through a lot of lines.

[1:16:27] Is she talking about the Board of Health?

[1:16:28] They want it.

[1:16:28] from what I want to do a B&B correct is that why they you're having to check

[1:16:37] their title five and I know that there was a question she wrote me that there

[1:16:47] was a question about possibly making it a B&B I think of what I was told yesterday

[1:16:55] There are key people that are interested, that are rust rattleers, so not easy.

[1:17:00] I'm sorry, I should have been.

[1:17:01] No, please stop.

[1:17:02] That's all right.

[1:17:03] I think everybody knows.

[1:17:05] Is that?

[1:17:05] Do we allow with you?

[1:17:06] Yes, I believe so.

[1:17:08] I think we addressed it.

[1:17:11] We don't have the issues like Lanesboro has, I don't believe.

[1:17:15] Yeah, because we allowed one for a Louise Palmer at that time, and I think, yeah, and

[1:17:22] I.

[1:17:24] Here's the answer.

[1:17:24] It's I don't think it's a by right. I think they have to apply for special permit.

[1:17:30] But in I did ask the lawyer that and I don't know how that deals with Airbnb. I have no idea we've never had to deal with that issue. And I think that's also some of the problems lanes,

[1:17:41] Hillsborough's having is with Airbnb's as well as yeah and that's a whole separate thing over bed and breakfast

[1:17:49] Well the thing is if they're already having

[1:17:54] Apartments and ability to house up above the restaurant it may

[1:18:00] I don't know how that would affect

[1:18:03] Yeah, I don't

[1:18:05] So I have addressed it with the lawyer

[1:18:10] But there's been no purchase in sales agreement, there's nothing concrete, it's just still

[1:18:15] over the month.

[1:18:20] Right, and you've said right, they got to either, or you've got to meet some.

[1:18:30] Do you think they've had offers?

[1:18:35] That's what they're doing.

[1:18:35] because it's a pretty important thing to let me go.

[1:18:38] I'm not interested there, and the ones that have been interested,

[1:18:42] because I asked her, is this going to continue to be a restaurant?

[1:18:47] And she said, there are restaurant people who are interested.

[1:18:51] But they've got to get that Title 5 before they can do anything else, unfortunately.

[1:18:57] And then maybe they can get moving on.

[1:19:00] And they already have someone who's going to actually do the work.

[1:19:10] I hope it's going to be a regular restaurant, not like in the head.

[1:19:18] Any other comments, questions, motion to adjourn?

[1:19:24] I'll make the motion.

New Ashford Planning Board Meeting - 3.24.26

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