City Planning Commission - Aug 25th, 2026

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[2:17] Zoning Docket 036/26 Applicant(s): City Council Motion No. M-26-62 Request: Text amendment to the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance to define "data centers" and any related uses, to consider whether these uses should be permitted or conditional in any zoning district or overlay, and to implement appropriate use and design standards for these uses if applicable, including but not limited to density requirements, soundproofing and safety measures, and any other regulation necessary to preserve the quality of life of nearby residents, businesses and institutions.

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[0:00] Thank you. Commissioner A. Bear here. Commissioner Flex. Commissioner Wittries here, Commissioner C. Thank you.
[0:14] We would like to go ahead and please send rules.
[0:32] The City Planning Commission has established certain rules governing the procedures to be followed
[0:37] at all public hearings.
[0:39] Commissioner Jackson is here as well.
[0:42] We welcome him.
[0:44] Before speaking each person's help give their name a dress and say who he or she is representing
[0:49] for opponents, for proposal will speak for a period of 10 minutes.
[0:53] Each speaker will be allowed a maximum of two minutes.
[0:56] Opponents or other interested parties will speak a period of 15 minutes each speaker shall
[1:01] be allowed a maximum of two minutes.
[1:04] Opponents will be allowed a period of six minutes for a rebuttal each speaker shall be
[1:08] allowed a maximum of two minutes.
[1:10] Opponents will not be allowed to revitalize.
[1:13] No material written matter photographs, maps, charts will be accepted by the Commission
[1:18] or its staff at any time during this public hearing.
[1:22] This procedure shall be followed except at such time in the preceding officer's shell, and with the approval of commission members present.
[1:29] Extend such time. I'm going to go ahead and ask for a motion for our adoption of our meeting minutes from August 11.
[1:38] I'll make a motion to adopt a meeting minutes from July 20.
[1:41] Thank you, Commissioner Flek, is there a second?
[1:43] Second.
[1:44] Thank you, Commissioner Poshay, any discussion?
[1:49] Yes.
[1:50] I actually think I need to call everybody's name, yes.
[1:55] So, Commissioner C, how do you...
[1:57] Yes.
[1:57] Okay.
[1:58] Commissioner Witchery, yes.
[1:59] Commissioner Flick.
[2:00] Commissioner Abear.
[2:01] Yes.
[2:01] Yes.
[2:02] Yes.
[2:04] All right.
[2:05] The meeting minutes have been up.
[2:07] Yes.
[2:07] Commissioner Flick.
[2:08] Yes.
[2:08] Commissioner Flick.
[2:09] Thank you.
[2:09] I need to add you to my list.
[2:11] Welcome.
[2:13] And we are going to move on to the first zoning
[2:17] document, 036-26.
[2:20] And if you're new to this room, or you just walked in,
[2:25] if you would like to speak, we need you to fill out cards
[2:29] and they'll be brought up to me so that we can make sure
[2:31] that everybody's heard.
[2:33] Zoning Doc is 036-26.
[2:36] All right.
[2:38] Zoning Doc is 036-26 was deferred
[2:41] from the CPC meeting on July 28th, but this presentation is largely the same, so we'll
[2:46] just begin.
[2:48] It's a request from city council motion for a text amendment to the CCO to define data
[2:54] centers and any related uses to consider whether these should be permitted or conditional
[2:58] in any zoning district or overlay, and to implement appropriate use and design standards
[3:04] for the uses not limited to density requirement, soundproofing, and safety measures, and
[3:08] other regulations necessary.
[3:10] It
[3:12] is step quickly concluded that the data center uses an atypical one from what usually goes through CPC and that there is a large variation in intensity based on the size and scale of the use and the impacts from data centers are not just hyperlocal land use impacts like occupancy traffic building design and lighting but can be much broader impacting local supplies of energy or water and potentially creating major air quality noise or water quality issues for nearby residents.
[3:42] and the greatest impacts come from the really large facilities with power generation on site and or liquid cooling facilities on site, mostly hyperscale facilities.
[3:54] To inform the recommendations and reports staff reviewed zoning and land use regulations across the country,
[3:59] either from county, state or local governments, staff on their regulations vary.
[4:03] Some cities or states or counties of moratoriums on data centers, either entirely or beyond some kind of threshold like 10,000 square feet or 50,000 megawatts of power.
[4:12] But there are different approaches across the country as the demand for data centers has significantly increased in the past few years.
[4:20] So recommendations.
[4:21] Staff recommends setting a scale for data centers by establishing four main categories based on square footage and energy consumption.
[4:29] Staff looked at data center regulations from other places to inform the thresholds along with research on existing data center providers.
[4:36] So the categories are accessory, small, medium, large or hyperscale.
[4:43] Accessory data centers would serve a primary use at a site and would be no larger than
[4:47] 2,000 square feet and would take up no more than 25% of the gross floor area of the primary
[4:54] use. Small data centers are up to 20,000 square feet with no greater than 5 megawatts.
[5:00] The media and data centers are up to 100,000 square feet and no greater than 20 megawatts of power. And large or hyper-scale is anything beyond the medium threshold, the 20 megawatts or 100,000 square foot and would be prohibited, citywide.
[5:16] Use for measures.
[5:18] Laura, can I interrupt you?
[5:20] Sure.
[5:21] I just want to make sure since people are listening and I want to make sure I understood. Large and hyper-scale are the same.
[5:28] Well, large and hyper-skiller defined under the same category, and those would be prohibited, yes.
[5:36] Right, so, okay, there are two different categories, or are they the same?
[5:41] So above mediums together.
[5:44] A way that we've written them is in one bucket together, like large or hyper-skiller.
[5:49] So anything above medium?
[5:50] What we've found is that large or typically hyper-skiller typically large.
[5:55] Okay, anything above medium falls into that one bug.
[5:58] To that category.
[6:00] Okay, and that's 20,000 square feet.
[6:03] And mega lots of 20 did I see in the last slide.
[6:11] 100,000 square feet in 20 megawatt.
[6:13] 20 megawatt.
[6:14] Okay, thanks.
[6:21] Okay.
[6:23] So small or medium data centers are conditioned
[6:25] would be conditionally allowed across districts in articles
[6:29] 1516 and 17 in the commercial center areas and institutional campus district small would be
[6:36] conditionally allowed in C1, C2, C3, EC, MC, MS or LS in Article 16 centers for industry
[6:46] small and medium are conditionally allowed in L.I. light industrial H.I. have the industrial
[6:52] M.I. Maritime Industrial and B.I.P. Business Industrial Park.
[6:57] In Article 17, the Central Business District, small would be
[7:00] conditionally allowed in CBD-1, CBD-2, CBD-3, CBD-4, CBD-7,
[7:07] and medium would be conditionally permitted in CBD-7.
[7:11] And there's a map on the next slide.
[7:16] Yeah. So you can see the map on this slide
[7:18] in the red and blue areas that those are the commercial
[7:22] centers that would conditionally allow small data centers. The purple color includes
[7:28] LI, HI, MI, and BID that would support small or medium conditionally and the gray areas
[7:37] on the map should be areas within and around the CBD that would permit small as a conditionally
[7:41] use. It also includes CBD 7 which allows the medium sized data centers. So use standards.
[7:51] So, as we are looking at the data center, you simply realize there are a series of procedural
[7:55] considerations for the use that are atypical.
[7:57] A new data center would require review and consideration from energy, potentially sewage
[8:02] and water boards, certainly building permits, and so we decide to stipulate these initial
[8:06] considerations as part of the use standards.
[8:09] First, all data center applications for conditional use must be pre-reviewed by Kero, and
[8:14] to reduce sewage and water board and a statement of review by those agencies would be required
[8:19] to be provided to CPC before an application could be made.
[8:23] Second, each application would be required to include a general impact assessment to provide
[8:28] information on electrical love, water usage, expected noise levels, and a description of
[8:33] the mitigation efforts to be undertaken.
[8:36] The building and site design is largely similar to other industrially permitted use types,
[8:41] which are required to comply with the underlying zoning districts regulations for bulk,
[8:46] yard, design, and landscaping. Staff includes density and distance restrictions.
[8:53] So all data centers would be 500 feet roughly 3 blocks from all residential zone properties
[9:01] in industrial districts. L-I-H-I-M-I-B-I-P data centers would also be required to be 500 feet from one
[9:09] another, and in the CBD, only one data center is permitted per building to limit
[9:15] potential for an entire building to become a data center.
[9:19] So, there are examples of university campuses seeking to construct data centers, nationwide
[9:24] staff includes an allowance for universities, medical facilities, subject to the institutional
[9:29] master plan requirements, an article 15, to seek data centers as a use allowance within
[9:34] master planning process, and lastly, all on-site power generation would be prohibited, except
[9:41] for backup purposes.
[9:46] And so, staff recommends a approval of this language. We did receive
[9:51] a comment on Friday from Inauna, requesting a deferral of this request.
[10:05] Could we get some counsel on that? On the deferral, especially because it is a tax amendment.
[10:16] I don't think I've been in that situation, so I just wanted to be able to know what the processes.
[10:21] You all as the commission has the authority to act or defer within the time of audit, and Laura, can you remind everyone what the deadline for consideration?
[10:36] This is October 23rd, is our deadline.
[10:45] So Eastern New Orleans.
[10:49] Maybe we're going to see it.
[10:51] Advisory Commission.
[10:52] And along with, I think, if I don't mind if he could read,
[10:55] maybe that request.
[11:01] Yes, one second, one second,
[11:28] one second.
[11:28] Do you have it?
[11:29] I'm looking for it, do you?
[11:30] OK.
[11:31] OK, that's it.
[11:33] You ready?
[11:35] Dear members of the City Planning Commission on behalf of the Eastern New Orleans Neighborhood Advisory Commission.
[11:40] You don't act.
[11:41] I'm requesting that the New Orleans City Planning Commission defer full consideration and formal action on zoning docket 3626 concerning data centers scheduled for hearing on August 25th for at least 60 days.
[11:56] Given the significance and sensitivity of the matter, we do not believe the community has been provided adequate time to review and discuss the CDC staff report.
[12:05] The additional time is needed to allow for full meaningful community input and dialogue before this matter proceeds.
[12:11] We also want to address the issue of notification.
[12:15] In accordance with the requirements of law applicable to ENONAC, which is Louisiana,
[12:19] or by statute's 33.9100.11. ENONAC is required to receive notice of interalea,
[12:27] zoning matters affecting its jurisdiction. ENONAC did not receive proper notification
[12:32] from the City Planning Commission regarding zoning docket 3626.
[12:37] For these reasons, Internet perspective requests
[12:40] that zoning docket 3626 be deferred for at least 60 days
[12:44] to provide sufficient time for proper notification.
[12:47] Community review of the staff report and additional community discussion
[12:50] for the matter with forward.
[12:53] We are also requesting that the New Orleans City Council
[12:56] extend the deadline for CPC action on this important issue
[13:00] concerning the defining and regulation of data centers to allow for the above reference greater
[13:05] community consideration, input, and engagement. This is certainly Kenya Smith and term president.
[13:14] Thank you. I would like to suggest that we move your presentations completed,
[13:20] correct, so that we can move on to listen to the people that have come here today and then we
[13:26] make our decisions.
[13:30] We have two cards in support, Ms. Susan Johnson,
[13:38] and then Ms. Sue
[13:40] Mobley. Please remember, you need to say your name and address. And you have two minutes.
[13:48] Susan Johnson, 28, 22 of the Page Street, Town of Carlton,
[13:52] Watches, Stewart, New Orleans, neighborhoods.
[13:55] I'm not paid to be here.
[13:57] I support the E request for deferral for extended community outreach.
[14:07] And put, thank you.
[14:08] Thank you.
[14:09] Ms. Moglie?
[14:21] Hi, all right.
[14:26] I support the staff recommendations and report, and I know how quickly a political concern
[14:33] a council can become a procedural request for planning and commission staff to rapid fire
[14:39] as several of the report, and I want to commend the planning department for an extensively
[14:43] researched and tightly written report in short order.
[14:47] Like I imagine most of the people in this room, I support the comprehensive ban on large and hyperscale data centers in a women's parish.
[14:56] I also appreciate the more nuanced set of recommendations that
[15:00] Taking to account current data center usage, and the most likely kinds and locations of potential future
[15:06] expansions along our biomedical corridor and adjacent educational campuses.
[15:11] My previous concerns about potential dodges using a lesser designations in close proximity,
[15:18] proximity, seem well addressed by the 500 foot regulations from the residential properties,
[15:24] 500 foot from each other, regulations for four of the zoning types, and the CBD limit
[15:28] on one per building. I also really appreciate the proposal for re-approval of conditional use
[15:34] for expansion and use by square footage, increase in water or power, and hope that it might
[15:40] be applied as a standard for the current data centers in Orleans parish to prevent inadvertently
[15:45] advancing existing businesses over emergent ones. Overall, an excellent job by planning staff,
[15:52] which I hope the commission will vote to approve and recommend to council. Thank you.
[15:57] Ms. Mowgli, I would like to recognize you since you served for the City of New Orleans as a planning commissioner.
[16:03] Thank you for your service.
[16:06] I don't have any other cards in support.
[16:09] That's the case, then we're going to move for information only.
[16:13] I do have a card for an Ian or Ian Bailey, but I have a question.
[16:21] I have two people seated to you and they're in opposition, but you're in information only.
[16:26] So are you information only for an appropriate information this time? I can provide information for these two minutes and then I could do
[16:35] opposites for the other one. I have multiple comments.
[16:44] Okay, so we are going to do you have two minutes please say your name and a drive.
[16:48] Hello everyone my name is Ian Bailey. I am a student at the University of New Orleans. I'm located at 2,000
[16:53] short drive. And I want to use my time today to speak to you again about the importance of maintaining
[16:59] our water infrastructure and warmings. This is my third time. Having the privilege to speak to
[17:05] you all, I do want to acknowledge that I'm very grateful that you all are still continuing
[17:09] to be publicly facing about this topic. This topic is going to affect all of us in the city,
[17:14] whether we realize it or not. So I want to talk about how the state of the water of the
[17:24] I've did research between February 2025 and March 2026 that shows that the
[17:30] Susan Waterboard had to issue 10-boy water advisers within that 12-month span, showing
[17:36] that the Susan Waterboard can't even provide water for the people who already live
[17:40] here let alone these new industrial-sized uses. I also found in that research that
[17:46] over half of those documented water advisers occurred in the one in East where it
[17:52] mostly black and brown and Asian communities, people of lower income, who are affected the most
[17:57] by these decisions. So I wanted to bring that clearly to the discussion that we're talking about
[18:03] today. Even I was able to see brother today who does on the ground journalism, not even
[18:09] what the boy or what the boy or I'm sorry. Let me take my time. I saw brother today who does on the
[18:16] on journalism, showing spots where water is leaking from sewage pipes and where these things
[18:22] are just, they look like they're not kept. And these are issues that haven't even broken
[18:28] out into an emergency yet. The research that I did only showed documented failures from the
[18:37] boil from the Surgeon Water Board. And so I know that there's also other issues that exist
[18:41] haven't even been documented yet that we still have to go back and find more research on more
[18:47] data on before we commit to a definition for data sums. Thank you for your time.
[18:54] Mr. Bingley, if you'd like to speak, you still have four minutes. All right.
[18:59] Again, I really appreciate the opportunity to come up here and speak.
[19:03] I am a son of South Louisiana, even if my parents may tell you otherwise, I'm from here. This is my home.
[19:09] I was originally raised in La Pleasure, Louisiana, and I've been living in the one that's
[19:13] past five years. Being that I come from the place, I saw firsthand what an extraction economy
[19:20] does through a community. I got my start and research doing a project in elementary school about
[19:28] coastal erosion in Louisiana before and after Hurricane Katrina. And so from a very early age,
[19:34] I was already tailored to look and see how the impacts of how we build and how we develop infrastructure
[19:41] has the impact on the amount of lives we can save and the amount of emergencies we can prevent.
[19:48] When you look at coastal erosion, you can see there's a bunch of issues that contribute to it,
[19:53] but one of the major things that contribute to coastal erosion in South Louisiana is oil companies
[19:57] and how they literally dug canal.
[20:00] Through our buy-use and our wetlands to track oil and to exploit the land here.
[20:07] And I was raised in the heart of cancer alley, because these oil companies, once they find the oil,
[20:12] they need to refine the oil.
[20:16] And so, in cancer alley, between oil and bad rules, these areas
[20:19] has a high concentration of these industrial uses and the contaminants and the pollution from these
[20:26] companies, causes residents to suffer from cancer and respiratory illnesses at higher
[20:31] rates than the rest of the country. From this information, I want to pair the information
[20:38] with data from the COVID-19 pandemic where Saint John the Baptist's parents had the highest
[20:44] rates of mortality because of the condition of the residents, because they're at higher risk
[20:51] cancer and respiratory illnesses, more people died from COVID-19, and these illnesses didn't
[20:57] just happen because of their family. It happened because it's in the air. That these
[21:01] companies,
[21:12] yeah, no, that's what needs to be more. Oh, okay. How do we fix that?
[21:19] One of the side, Mike. Is there enough? Magic. Great. So what I was saying was that these
[21:26] companies made these conditions for the residents who live here.
[21:29] So I'm encouraging you all to think a little bit more deeply about the conditions of accepting
[21:36] a new industrial use in this area.
[21:38] I know that data centers are new industry that's emerging right now and I still would very
[21:45] much urge caution with how quickly we are holding this out again.
[21:49] I want to appreciate the fact that we've had these discussion for a few weeks, if not months,
[21:52] at this point.
[21:53] And so I just want to reiterate that they have a history of companies in this state and this region who have caused conditions that hurt people and that kill people.
[22:07] That's the point that I wanted to make initially.
[22:09] And in terms of actually looking at which I've put out today with the use standards and the definitions the child of release the child are about to vote on.
[22:16] I think that they need a little bit more work still.
[22:20] One of the things is that it's good about it
[22:21] is that it has a prohibition of large and hyper scale
[22:24] data centers. We do not need that at all.
[22:28] The second point though is about how the definitions
[22:31] are really based on square footage and electricity use
[22:34] when water is more scarce than electricity.
[22:37] Water is my main issue because we need water to exist
[22:40] every single one of us in this room needs water
[22:42] and if we're giving water to these computers
[22:46] that's water that's not going to be serving people, human beings. So if we're going to be
[22:51] doing a definition about anything relating to utilities it would be very important to actually
[22:56] include a definition for water usage in that definition so that we don't overextend ourselves
[23:02] at the end of the day water is the most vital thing that we're given from the earth and so we need
[23:08] to be taking care of it being a good steward of these resources and being a good steward of
[23:14] time here on our so I again I appreciate you for the time you give me to speak and I
[23:18] pray that you'll make the best decision for the city of no one as thank you.
[23:22] Thank you.
[23:27] Jesse George
[23:31] and then we'll move in to opposition, please stay your name and
[23:37] address. Thank you. Thank you Jesse George 4519 South Clayborne on behalf of the Alliance
[23:42] for Affordable Energy. I split before at last month's meeting about this really just wanted
[23:48] come out today. I've already thanked this commission staff for their work on this, but I'd
[23:53] like to thank the public really, the community who really was the impetus for this recommended
[24:00] prohibition on the citywide prohibition on high-press scale data centers. When the rumors earlier
[24:06] this year were swirling about a proposed data center in New Orleans East, the community sprang to
[24:11] its own defense and this is really a response to that pressure from the community. We see this as a
[24:17] in at the Alliance for Affordable Energy in terms
[24:19] of banning hyperscale data centers, citywide.
[24:23] We recognize the nuance and that we already
[24:26] have data centers existing in the city of a smaller scale.
[24:30] But really, the threat comes from these hyperscale facilities
[24:34] and that concern is addressed in this prohibition.
[24:38] So we would have no objection to a deferral on the vote.
[24:42] We already have a temporary ban in place for a year.
[24:46] So, more time for public education about what this new ordinance would entail, we would have no objection to that, but we do see this as a win for the community.
[24:56] Thank you.
[24:57] I have a question for you.
[24:58] Just about the mystery.
[25:00] Please comment about the water being scarcity.
[25:03] Excellent recommendation.
[25:06] That was my question.
[25:07] How you felt?
[25:07] I would be my response to that.
[25:10] All right. Thank you.
[25:12] All right. You're going to move into opposition.
[25:17] And I'll call a couple names so that you're aware that you're coming up.
[25:21] Can you Smith?
[25:25] Deborah Levy Perlman?
[25:26] And Assad, no sheet,
[25:32] and I'll apologize in advance if I don't, if the pronunciation is not accurate.
[25:36] Please correct me when you're up here.
[25:38] It's all right, I've been called worse.
[25:42] Good afternoon.
[25:43] Members of the Commission, I'm grateful for this.
[25:45] Opportunity, Kenya Smith, 73, Lake Willow, Drive in New Orleans, East.
[25:50] And I'm the interim president of the Eastern New Orleans neighborhood advisory commission.
[25:54] otherwise known affectionately as Inonac and organization designed after Katrina to protect the integrity
[26:02] of New Orleans these neighborhoods and our investment in this American experiment. We represent
[26:08] over 75,000 residents, over 70,000 acres or 65 percent of New Orleans's land mass over 40
[26:16] neighborhoods, and as my letter referenced, we are requesting at least a 60-day deferral of this
[26:23] all-goss bodies, consideration of this report, so that we can have more public engagement.
[26:30] We noticed in the report, and we do come in the staff for their time, that energy, the
[26:35] sewage, and water board, and certain other city departments were engaged in the production,
[26:41] but what was clearly missing was any input from the most affected communities.
[26:48] So in these two minutes that I have in the little time that I have left, I do point you back
[26:52] to always identify a statute section 3391 or 11, 2011, which does speak to certain procedural
[27:01] requirements that are unnecessary for certain governmental actions, such as this.
[27:05] One of the things that I've learned in the 30 seconds I have left, that when you are in
[27:08] the position of privilege and leadership whether it be elected or appointed there are three
[27:13] things that we need to do for people.
[27:15] The first is to engage.
[27:17] The second is to educate and the third is to empower, and that is why we respectfully request
[27:22] This deferral so that we have an adequate opportunity to get meaningful community input.
[27:28] So I thank you for your time and I see that my time is up.
[27:32] Thank you.
[27:50] It's going to be a bit lower.
[27:52] Good afternoon.
[27:53] My name is Devora.
[27:54] I'm a New Orleans resident and I'm a volunteer with the take back the power campaign and an organizer with the party for socialism and liberation.
[28:02] So many of us are mobilizing today because nobody in the community wants a data center in their
[28:08] backyard, big, medium, small, and because we clearly see through the lack of democracy and accountability
[28:16] that we've been seeing. By allowing energy to decide whether they can provide
[28:21] great capacity for a proposed data center. The CPC is putting decision making about our
[28:27] resources into the hands of a corrupt for-profit corporation. Let's remember this is the same
[28:35] Energy, who in the past year has given over $1.5 million in campaign contributions in Louisiana.
[28:44] The same energy, who after Hurricane Ida, wreaked havoc across South Louisiana, charged customers $3.2 billion for repairs, while handing $1.5 billion in payouts to their shareholders and giving their then CEO a $4 million raise.
[29:01] So now what's happening is that they're making these deals with big tech to power data centers.
[29:07] So there's two options here.
[29:10] Either entity builds new gas-fired, polluting power plants to power data centers,
[29:16] and hike up our utility bills, or, and they allow more strain on the already failing grid,
[29:22] causing more blackouts for working class New Orleans.
[29:25] We're tired of billionaires putting this system in a chokehold where we regular working people have no control over our resources over the unreliable utilities that experience frequent outages and drain our bank accounts.
[29:41] The people should democratically decide how our grid is used, not energy.
[29:45] Electricity should be a basic human right, not a commodity for profit, and we the people should have control over how our utilities are used.
[29:53] Thank you.
[29:53] Thank you.
[30:05] Hi, my name is Asada and I'm a member of the Party for Socialism and Liberation and a volunteer of the takeback of power campaign.
[30:13] I'm also a student at LSU New Orleans and I'm here today because I have serious concerns that this proposed rule disproportionately harm black and working class New Orleans.
[30:24] The proposal says that so-called medium data centers can be located in industrial zoning districts,
[30:31] but we know that zoning has never been a politically neutral act.
[30:36] From a combination of policy decisions like redlining and decades of de facto segregation,
[30:42] black communities have always gotten the short end of the stick when it comes to deciding
[30:45] where, quote unquote, undesirable infrastructure is built.
[30:49] Some of the biggest industrial zones in New Orleans are located right next to black communities.
[30:54] For example, the New Orleans East Industrial District is a massive site for industrial exploitation and is based in a community that is 84 percent black.
[31:04] When we look next to the desire area along industrial canal, or by the river in the lower nine, we can see a similar pattern.
[31:12] Black and low-income communities are the ones that have to shoulder the impacts of these invasive industrial projects.
[31:17] It's no secret at this point that people across the city and even across the country don't want a
[31:24] data center in their backyard because they know data centers compromise our quality of life from
[31:30] draining our water supply to creating absurd levels of noise pollution.
[31:35] When the same communities get targeted over and over again, it's not a coincidence.
[31:40] It's making them a sacrifice zone for big tech to break in record profits at our expense.
[31:45] So, we're here today to demand that this proposal not move forward, that black and
[31:50] working class New Orleans not be asked to bear yet another inconvenience and that you
[31:55] place the welfare of the residents of this city over profits for corporations like
[32:00] energy.
[32:06] Could you please say to your address for the record before I move on?
[32:10] Thank you.
[32:10] Yes, it's 21-01, Leon's, he's Simon Drough.
[32:14] Thank you.
[32:15] Tiffany French, blue and Bernadette Fox.
[32:24] Hello, Tiffany French, 2326 North Robertson Street.
[32:28] I do support banning hyperscal data centers, but I believe we should be banning
[32:33] data centers of all size in the city of New Orleans because of the
[32:36] detrimental effects already mentioned such as energy and water
[32:39] depletion, air pollution, noise pollution, and light pollution.
[32:43] Even if tech companies pay to improve our infrastructure and
[32:46] it's not to cause problems. They have proved themselves untrustworthy in the past.
[32:51] And all of this is just to create a handful of jobs and support plagiarism, misinformation,
[32:55] and racist surveillance. There are no benefits to the citizens of New Orleans. Thank you.
[33:07] Hello, my name is Blue, 7015 Kentucky Street. I'm not going to be saying anything new here
[33:13] that hasn't already been said. But I am a white transplant here in New Orleans and I'm here to
[33:18] reach out to all of the board members who are also white and say that this will be the detrimental
[33:27] genocide to the community that is in New Orleans and everything is owed to the Black and
[33:32] Brown Indigenous community of New Orleans and there is nothing more to be said that we have
[33:38] seen evidence in how this is impacted other communities throughout the United States, that
[33:47] these data centers are not being built in predominantly white communities
[33:51] point blank. It's not happening. And so everything in this city, the reason why people come here
[33:58] is owed to black and indigenous community members who create it. It's the only reason people
[34:05] come here is because of that. And I urge you all to listen to people who have spoken before me
[34:12] And to think deeply about the sustainability and keeping the city alive, especially because I know that y'all have seen the reports of the point of number turn as sea levels rise.
[34:25] How do we want to prolong and keep alive this place that you say that you love and protect, that we say we love and protect what will we do?
[34:35] So thank you for your time.
[34:37] Thank you.
[34:46] Good afternoon everybody. My name is Bernadette Fox. I live at 623 of our street. I am a lawyer. I went to law school here.
[34:54] I'm currently on medical leave because I had to get cancer removed from my body in April. I'm the court appointed lawyer.
[35:00] I'm a good one. And I'm probably going to have to quit that job because we don't prioritize children and mothers. I'm here as a mother today of a black child in a city that doesn't prioritize his wellness. The only property I own is the former grave of a student. And when I was making that purchase in 2021, after he was killed in the seventh word, that is rapidly being gentrified, I had to decide which cemetery was safe because the graves were floating. Right now we're in a drought.
[35:30] Okay, I come from Santa Cruz, California, paradise on Earth.
[35:34] Bigger wealth disparity than here, a greater homeless population than here,
[35:36] we would never have a data center, because they protect the environment.
[35:40] Not like Watsonville, where Driscoll, strawberries come from,
[35:43] you see those at the grocery store.
[35:45] Highest rates of childhood cancer are coming out of those communities.
[35:49] Black and brown Hispanic communities in California.
[35:53] So, I'm telling you that the choices that you're making around the data center
[35:56] will affect my son's ability to thrive in this city,
[36:00] to thrive in this place, to potentially
[36:02] have generational wealth one day, to have a future,
[36:04] to maybe have his own children one day.
[36:06] You're making those decisions.
[36:08] And we will not forget, I will not forget.
[36:11] We are different.
[36:12] We are writing the history books.
[36:15] We will archive the history, not the people
[36:17] that thinks that they're in power.
[36:20] The land is destabilizing because of decisions
[36:22] that people in power have made for time immemorial here.
[36:26] So, I'm standing before you, and I'm letting you know that people like me who have been in places that have tried to bully us into a cult of silence, it's not happening.
[36:38] My employer probably doesn't know I'm here today.
[36:41] I don't care anymore.
[36:42] I'm speaking truth to power because it needs to happen.
[36:44] Time is up.
[36:45] My time is running out.
[36:46] Our time is running out, and we're not going to back down.
[36:56] I'm Ed Jigar, Kendall Berry, I think here in Spencer.
[37:12] Hey, my name is Ahmed, 49.99, Burgundi Street.
[37:16] I'm an organizer with the Party for Socialism and Immigration,
[37:19] and a volunteer with the take back the power campaign.
[37:22] I'm here today to urge the Commission to recommend a permanent citywide ban
[37:26] on new principal use status centers.
[37:29] Your staff report highlights the difference between Hyperion
[37:32] and what it would call a medium data center.
[37:34] and, yeah, short, 20 megawatts, not anywhere near Hyperian scale.
[37:39] But it would still use as much electricity as 12,000 homes per year in Occupy and entire
[37:44] city block.
[37:45] So what exactly is medium about that would anyone here consider if they got an electric bill
[37:51] for 12,000 divided by the average electric bill $2.16 million, I can't afford that.
[37:59] I don't know if any of you can.
[38:00] The word medium here really just means larger than small and smaller than large, it has nothing to do with any of the impacts that these facilities will have.
[38:10] Your report acknowledges that data centers primarily affect the cost and availability of electricity and water.
[38:15] It correctly identifies a citywide issue and does not bother to offer any citywide solutions.
[38:22] How does a sound barrier protect us from rate hikes, for example?
[38:27] The proposals a step back written policy, we already currently, under the IZD, are banning new principal use data centers, and instead of making this permanent, we're considering exceptions for small facilities that take as much power as every household in the St.rock neighborhood combined each not to mention medium facilities.
[38:47] You're also not doing anything like capping how many data centers can be improved in total or the resource during collectively.
[38:54] You're missing before us for the trees with these definitions.
[38:57] These are separate categories on paper, but they're all drawing from the same electrical
[39:00] grid, water system, city, infrastructure that's our electricity, our water, our city, and
[39:06] our infrastructure.
[39:08] You've been hearing this for months now, and all the data centers do not permit small facilities
[39:14] or conditional approval for medium, keep the definition in the current IZD, maintain narrow
[39:18] exception for accessory server rooms, recommend that to city council, prevent all data
[39:22] center use in all zoning districts. Thank you.
[39:35] Oh, my name is Kendall Barry. I live at 2, 2, 3, 0, be
[39:39] Enville Street and I'm a volunteer with the take back the power
[39:42] campaign. Here to say today that we don't want any new data centers
[39:47] in New Orleans, even if you call them small or medium sized. All data
[39:53] centers put significant strain on our already failing power grid, use a
[39:58] fresh water resources
[40:02] All over the country, people are fighting back against data centers that are being forced on people, fighting for their right to assay and how their resources are used.
[40:14] I talk to this to people in this city all the time, and I can think of a hundred other things that New Orleans want for their beloved city before they want any new warehouses for big tech.
[40:25] New Orleans want a functional pipe system with water that isn't filled with lead or PFAS.
[40:32] We want reliable power that won't leave us stranded in this brutal heat.
[40:37] We want to feel like our city is prepared for the next Katrina that comes to New Orleans.
[40:43] How is paving the way for big tech business to do what it wants with New Orleans beneficial for the average working person here?
[40:51] I'm so tired of hearing about the economic boost that Louisiana will get by selling off more and more of our precious land to these mega corporations who want nothing more than to extract as much as they can from the people of Louisiana as if they haven't taken enough.
[41:10] We need to prioritize fixing the existing problems in this city, preparing for the actuality of another big storm and taking care of our struggling people.
[41:21] What is best for profit-obsessed corporation is not what is best for working class New Orleans.
[41:29] I ask you so that you can reflect and because the people deserve to know whose interests are you protecting the people or the ultra-wealthy.
[41:38] Thank you,
[41:52] Karen Spencer 1339 St. Rock Avenue, my name is Karen and I'm an organizer with the take back the power campaign.
[42:01] Here in New Orleans, our grid is already stretched to its limit. Much of the infrastructure we depend on was built more than 70 years ago.
[42:08] We've seen time and time again that it cannot even withstand relatively minor storms without widespread outages.
[42:13] And we know what happens when energy system fails, working people of this city die.
[42:19] After Hurricane Katrina, energy took 42 days to complete restoration, leaving roughly
[42:24] 1.1 million customers in the dark.
[42:27] In 2021 Hurricane Ida left nearly 950,000 customers without power, after an energy tower fell
[42:33] into the Mississippi River.
[42:35] Energy needed 15 days to restore power to most of the city.
[42:38] During that time, at least nine people died from excessive heat in their own homes.
[42:44] Their deaths were preventable.
[42:45] They died because our grid failed them, because energy failed them.
[42:49] Our grid cannot handle strain that climate disasters already placed on it, let alone the
[42:54] demands of data centers.
[42:56] And those demands are staggering.
[42:58] We only have to look at Richland Parish.
[43:00] Their energy worked in secret to secure the Medahipirian AI data center.
[43:04] The project is expected to consume roughly half of Louisiana's electrical capacity.
[43:10] That's approximately seven times the energy consumed by the entire city of New Orleans.
[43:15] An energy has no real solution for our failing grid.
[43:18] They have stood in this very room and dodged accountability while proposing an enormous new fossil fuel energy system.
[43:25] We cannot fix a failing grid with more band-aid solutions.
[43:28] And if energy gets permission to bring any size data centers into New Orleans, working-class people will pay the price when the system fails.
[43:37] If this commission is serious about preparing New Orleans for the next hurricane, then you must be on all projects that put additional strain on our failing electrical grid, no matter the size.
[43:47] Allowing any size data centers in New Orleans would mean signing a death warrant for the people who will be left without power when the next disaster hits. Thank you.
[43:54] Thank you.
[44:05] It's either Taylor, Terry, Jirenelli,
[44:11] and Greg Reese, Snapford.
[44:17] Hello.
[44:18] I was in Louis.
[44:19] I hope please go ahead and see your name and address.
[44:22] Tage Jirenella, one-one-one-seven, less-ups, and thank you for your time today.
[44:30] I want to say two real quick that you guys don't have enough information, you were given a five-slide presentation when the full report is actually 57 pages and reading and looking at this, the one thing that I did not see in the actual report is that almost a majority of the east is all highlighted and everybody showed up in January.
[45:00] And February to shut down that request for a data center in the east for a reason. And now we have done good research to go and point back to the east as a location.
[45:14] Additionally, this is going to be a quick search for profit and money in this city that I know will cause you beyond tenfold in the future with our already failing infrastructure.
[45:30] This is going to continue to be massive detriment.
[45:34] The other thing I want to see, and I recommend is I would like to see in here,
[45:39] making it costly, costs as consequences to the corporations, companies,
[45:45] and individuals who want to do this if we're going to be serious about a regulation,
[45:50] meaning anything.
[45:52] I'm not footing that bill.
[45:54] Additionally, something that wasn't in any of the report is what is called power usage effectiveness,
[46:01] which is the actual metric that determines the impact.
[46:05] Megawatts is just the instantaneous power draw from my T equipment,
[46:13] and had nothing about terawatts per year, additionally.
[46:17] PUE is the ratio of total facility power and often smaller facilities and older facilities
[46:24] have the worst.
[46:26] Ranging up to 2.5, which has,
[46:37] thank you, thank you.
[46:46] Gregory Swaffer, 935, grab your street, sweet 700, Mesothees, Louisiana Organizer,
[46:53] healthy golf, cold fond of culture, cleanliness, proud New Orleans, amen, I just think it's
[46:59] happen to face to New Orleans, particularly residents of New Orleans, these, I've spent my fair share
[47:05] of time growing up in New Orleans, these, not my entire childhood.
[47:09] But in recent years, there's been a number of community-based organizations, public officials
[47:14] and concerned residents, men that have been putting in real work to both the sustainability
[47:19] in our community out there, most specifically, create opportunities for the children in New Orleans,
[47:28] these two access the land, two access the water, it's a shame that we can't access our water
[47:34] ways, like again, it can now at a citrus canal because it's polluted by water, water
[47:37] ice and something, you may be wondering, what does this have to do with data centers?
[47:41] As everything to do with data centers, we're ignoring the environment.
[47:45] As everyone else has said, I believe that the environmental impacts are not being fully considered.
[47:50] It can't be fully considered and since this last permanent application was submitted, I'm
[47:55] to the against it. The land footprint impact alone would be devastating. It wouldn't be the
[48:01] highest and the best use of the remaining of our already eroding land in the city. We have
[48:06] a tremendous opportunity to boast our recreational water economy. Let's do that. Let's protect our
[48:11] waterways. Right up the road in the sentient pairs is some of the highest cancer rates in the country,
[48:17] only 40 minutes from now y'all. Cancer, heart disease, the number one killer of Americans, asthma,
[48:23] You know, it's a polluted by industries, we got venture global down the road and
[48:27] black limits, we got CF industries up in ascension, we got carbon capture, LNG,
[48:32] dredging and filling our Mississippi River, wetland destruction.
[48:36] You really want to take what we have here in New Orleans, the last remaining special
[48:41] part of our state and destroy it, and then drive our schools and fire departments of
[48:47] tax revenue, which makes no sense.
[48:49] Thank you.
[48:50] Thank you.
[49:00] Mr. Ms. Lewis.
[49:10] Fran Bias.
[49:13] Trinity Barnes.
[49:15] And Claudia.
[49:17] Celestine.
[49:23] Good afternoon.
[49:24] My name is Fran Bias.
[49:26] I was at 113, 11 Park for Court, South, and New Orleansies.
[49:31] I don't know a lot about these data centers.
[49:34] In fact, I guess I learned quite a bit from these young people.
[49:37] just sitting there listening to them, but what I have found out, number one is that these
[49:45] data sensors are contracting for 15 to 25 years. So what happens after the 25 years? I understand
[49:54] in that they have to build a more power plant tub.
[50:00] Energize these data census. And so, when they pick up and leave in 15 to 25 years, who's going to carry the price tag of those energy centers?
[50:14] And I'm concerned about them building them near residential areas, you know, with people trying to sleep at night and they're draining the world in the power from those homes.
[50:27] So, I don't have a lot of love for a data center.
[50:33] I don't really want them, not near where I have to live anyway.
[50:37] Thank you for listening.
[50:38] Thank you.
[50:47] Good afternoon.
[50:48] My name is Trinity Barnes.
[50:50] I graduated from Rhodes College with a degree in Environmental Studies in Urban Studies.
[50:56] So, I study climate change in cities.
[50:58] I study how environmental impacts affect human beings.
[51:01] And I study how governments tend to have a lot of power over long, long-term impacts over what we do here in our city.
[51:11] More importantly than my past studies, I am here as a Black New Orleansian from the Seven War.
[51:19] And I'm here to say that we're tired, we're tired of being exploited, we're tired of being looked over and we're tired of
[51:27] fitting the price that million trillionaires get to make more money off of that I'm completely
[51:34] against data centers in New Orleans big small it doesn't matter the size because we already
[51:40] deal with a lot of pollution here in this city we're fighting for our lives and cancer
[51:45] cancer alley we're fighting for our lives with all kinds of pollution here and I wanted to
[51:54] talk about noise pollution specifically and how that will really affect a lot of our residents
[51:59] including our children. There isn't much data coming out of these data centers about the
[52:06] negative health impacts that they are causing children and being at these will be allowed to be
[52:11] inside our residential neighborhoods very close to schools and homes. I just want to keep in
[52:17] mind about the young people coming up and how they are our future and how they are negatively
[52:23] impact about these consequences. Please help us take care of New Orleans, where the backbone of
[52:28] the South, where the backbone of this country. Half of this would not be here if it weren't for
[52:31] the Louisiana person. If it weren't for the poor of New Orleans, so please, please, please,
[52:36] keep us in your hearts, and please keep us in your minds as you make this very important decision.
[52:41] That will impact us forever. Thank you. Ms. Barnes. Ms. Barnes.
[52:49] We just need to be consistent. Thank you.
[52:52] Thank you.
[53:00] Good afternoon.
[53:02] Claudia Salastan, 5706 Louis Prima Drive West, New Orleans East, member of Inno-Nac cap, a president
[53:12] of Robert subdivision, and I came here today to speak for a deferment, and if there
[53:21] is no vote for deferment, I suggest that you all vote this down so that reconsideration
[53:27] can be done for all of those things that people have brought for today that need to be considered
[53:34] in this document that is to be presented. As for as the community in New Orleans East for myself,
[53:44] I know I have not had an opportunity in order to digest any part of the recommendations. So when we
[53:53] look at what the community input should be.
[53:57] I'm thinking we do need voices to come out of the community.
[54:02] I do appreciate all of the data, all of the technical information
[54:07] that has been provided, but we also need to know what impact to the
[54:12] community will be brought forth from a rash, rush decision.
[54:18] So I asked for a delay, so you know before the members of the community did come together
[54:24] When there was a proposed data center in one of the neighborhoods of New Orleans East
[54:30] It was totally rejected. So I'm asking please defer a vote down. Thank you. Thank you
[54:44] Rafial O'Neal in Ronald Marshall those are the last cards that I have to speak if anyone
[54:52] House has filled out one. Please make sure that I get a card seat.
[55:02] Yes, hi, my name is Rafael O'Neill, 60-319, Rocheblav. I apologize, I'm not going to be as eloquent because
[55:07] I just heard about this as I was leaving for work. I would be late picking up my daughter from school,
[55:12] but it's worth it. I actually have a stop data center's Facebook page. I can't even remember the name of it on Facebook.
[55:20] I've spoken with people in Richland, Virginia, used to be Richland, the richest soil in Louisiana in Monroe.
[55:26] And there is nobody who lives by data center who loves it.
[55:30] It destroys lives, it destroys health, it destroys sanity, it is a curse on communities.
[55:36] It absolutely destroys the lives of the people who live by it.
[55:39] I don't care what size.
[55:41] There are multiple issues, most people brought them up.
[55:44] They are ultra-low frequency weapons.
[55:46] You can put a sound barrier, but the frequency, the vibration that goes through, has health
[55:51] effects.
[55:51] when little girl kept getting seizures until her parents were
[55:55] fortunately able to go leave that I don't know if they sold their
[55:58] house or not unless you're selling to the data center a lot of
[56:02] people renting who are poor cannot are not so fortunate as to be able to
[56:06] get out of the neighborhoods or that they're in or people that can't
[56:11] sell it if the the data centers will bite nobody wants to buy a house in a
[56:14] data center neighborhood so there's there's just a lot of health issues that
[56:19] We know about the quality of life as a nightmare.
[56:23] I had a friend who was a medic who worked in one of these data centers.
[56:27] I'll try not to give to many identifiers.
[56:29] He said he was told that the number one cause of death to look out for as a medic was for the
[56:37] people building the construction site was suicide actually.
[56:43] And you need to know why he actually resigned after that, he quit, but there's these things, whether they're closed loop or open loop.
[56:53] First of all, if they're open loop, they're going to release a lot of water vapor into the air.
[56:56] Water vapor is the number one cause of client one number one driver of climate according to NASA.
[57:02] Even small changes in the location or abundance of clouds can change the climate more than the anticipated changes brought about.
[57:10] So, can we turn it back on so at least you can finish your fight?
[57:13] Thank you, please.
[57:14] And so, these create heat islands.
[57:16] And if we're so worried about a rise in one degree, and why are we putting up all these things
[57:21] that are the antithesis of the sustainability narrative that we've been rolling out here all these years.
[57:26] So, there's a lot of reasons.
[57:28] There's actually not one good reason to have a data center.
[57:31] China is using those to man the police, the robots and the robot dogs.
[57:37] We know what's coming.
[57:38] This is the monitor us.
[57:39] It's got nothing to do with the managering of this data.
[57:42] Please reconsider.
[57:43] Thank you so much.
[57:50] Yes.
[57:50] Mr. Marshall?
[57:51] Good evening.
[57:52] My name is Ronald Marshall.
[57:53] Seeing your policy strategy of voice of experience,
[57:56] I'm also a lifelong resident here in New Orleans.
[57:58] I was born in charge of the hospital,
[57:59] so it's my entire line of family.
[58:02] Everybody on this panel knows the home
[58:03] that those data still work due to our communities.
[58:06] So I have to ask, if you know the home of it,
[58:09] actually considering putting data cells in our community,
[58:11] Then some of you must be already bought like Senator J. Marvel's bought by the data coming to put that data
[58:17] Accident and not the reason I mean bought your values have been compromised because it should be a resounding
[58:22] Know to data centers and you want these that's predominantly black
[58:27] How many of you would put a data sitting your own back your and wish your family being home by that
[58:33] Dances I said question
[58:34] Would you do it?
[58:36] Do I mean you're living to all this ease?
[58:38] How many living to all these because they're predominantly black
[58:40] My mother brought her 40 years, she was like on top water.
[58:44] She was like on top water.
[58:46] She will have them on the bar by water.
[58:48] And after Katrina, the justification pushed her
[58:51] rest of the black people that lived in the middle city,
[58:53] and he's only black people will be impacted by that guy to send them.
[58:58] So I asked the question,
[58:59] if you know the home of the data center,
[59:01] why are we even considering it?
[59:03] Don't be like sending the J-Morning,
[59:05] let them buy you and compromise your values.
[59:07] Please, people be home,
[59:09] family would be destroyed, particularly bad for it.
[59:12] It's an attack on bad communists around its country.
[59:16] None of them being there would ever consider putting
[59:18] a data center in their own neighborhood, never, ever.
[59:34] I don't have anybody else.
[59:36] I have no more cards, so I don't think there's anyone else
[59:38] here to speak on this matter.
[59:40] If you all have any questions for any of the speakers
[59:44] or for staff, please do.
[59:48] We don't have a room.
[59:52] No, because there's no room at all because there's a text amendment.
[59:57] Commissioner A there please.
[59:59] Thank you first of all.
[1:00:00] I want to thank everyone that came out today to speak, and I was just taking a couple of notes, but as Mr Smith mentioned earlier, no community input was in a report and correct me from wrong.
[1:00:14] But it appears as though the two major companies that would be
[1:00:19] That would be
[1:00:21] Well, how should I say they will affect us as
[1:00:24] Rape players are anti-G and sewage of water board
[1:00:27] The main the one guide and mentioned a 10 bar of water issues in New Orleans, E
[1:00:33] I mean why would we even
[1:00:35] Oh, why would the data centers be proposed in the East if that's a problem and looking at this map?
[1:00:42] It's like many of them are proposed for new only disease, and some areas of the city don't
[1:00:48] have any red shading.
[1:00:52] We already have a problem with antigen, you know, in the city, in the east, if we have experienced
[1:00:57] after hurricanes and when you have you.
[1:01:00] So that would definitely be a problem with these data centers.
[1:01:04] Also in a large areas of the shaded area, there are nearer schools and hospitals, and
[1:01:11] in your citizen housing, so I can see that potentially being an issue, but actually I would
[1:01:18] like to make a motion now, if anybody else wants to meet the comment, go ahead.
[1:01:25] I'd just like to make a comment that a big issue for me is that there will be no enforcement
[1:01:34] and you can come up with a guideline that may or may not be followed and it just doesn't work
[1:01:40] In this scenario, we have a slew of existing buildings that you want to shove a data center into and how do you make that work and meet all of these requirements of a specific guideline.
[1:01:55] Not for any for a data center of any size in New Orleans, but that's really what comes down for me is just you know the energy impact.
[1:02:04] The impact to our infrastructure and the reality that it, you know, enforcement just might be something that's not really possible without having good data, and there's just not that data right now.
[1:02:20] Commissioner Jackson.
[1:02:23] I personally, for one, I want to put in a record, I do reside in New Orleans East.
[1:02:29] Okay, so I heard you loud and clear.
[1:02:33] So, number two, I took some notes as well and just as a young person that's looking forward
[1:02:41] to raising the family in the Orleans.
[1:02:44] From a business standpoint, they're trying to argue that it's money-tech and growth.
[1:02:51] But then when you look at from a community standpoint, the kinds are energy use for the use
[1:02:57] of our mental pressure and we have to look at what's going to be the quality of life for
[1:03:05] the nation's generations to come. So sometimes we have to understand, are we looking at today
[1:03:13] or we look at the future tomorrow? So I personally supported being deferred but I do not support
[1:03:21] that as soon as especially if it's not going to be accountability, it's not going to be education
[1:03:27] and we need to understand what is the end goal,
[1:03:31] what is the objective for being a data center in the city of New Orleans?
[1:03:36] Thank you.
[1:03:40] Thank you.
[1:03:41] Any other comments?
[1:03:43] We also, Commissioner Evier,
[1:03:45] does have a motion that I'd like to make a motion.
[1:03:49] I have a comment if I want to.
[1:03:51] OK.
[1:03:51] Thank you.
[1:03:53] Good afternoon, everyone.
[1:03:55] I want to distinguish between opposing regulation
[1:03:58] and supporting a deferral here today, I absolutely think that the city needs a permanent regulatory framework for data centers.
[1:04:07] The question before me today though is whether that framework in front of us is sufficiently developed to become that permanent framework.
[1:04:16] The CPC staff itself recognizes that data centers are unusual because many of their most significant impacts aren't traditional land use impacts.
[1:04:25] That involves electricity, water capacity, utility costs, noise, and potentially regional infrastructure consequences.
[1:04:34] Those are significant issues, and I want to be confident that the standards we recommend actually address them in a clear and enforceable way.
[1:04:44] For example, the proposal requires pre-review by Kuro,
[1:04:48] Entry G, and the sewage and water in board, and water board,
[1:04:51] but it leaves the procedure for those reviews to be created by those entities.
[1:04:56] Before we establish a news category in the zoning ordinance.
[1:05:00] I think it's reasonable to understand more clearly what the review will entail, what standards will
[1:05:06] govern it, and what happens if utility capacity or community impacts are unacceptable. A deferral
[1:05:13] gives us an opportunity to resolve these remaining questions without creating an immediate regulatory
[1:05:18] vacuum. My concern is that once we create permanent permissions in the CCO, even conditional
[1:05:26] permissions, as what is being suggested here today, we've established an affirmative pathway
[1:05:32] for applications, and I want to make sure that the standards governing that pathway
[1:05:37] is strong specific and administratively workable as they need to be before we recommend adoption.
[1:05:45] Now, I recognize that this matter has already received substantial study, and I don't take another
[1:05:50] deferral lightly, truly, but the amount of time we have spent is not by itself the measure
[1:05:56] of whether the ordinance is ready. I'm asking us to defer because once we create a legal
[1:06:02] pathway for these issues, I want the guardrails around that pathway to be fully defined.
[1:06:08] The relevant question is whether the outstanding issues are material. And given the scale
[1:06:13] of the potential utility and community impacts, I believe they are. Thank you.
[1:06:26] And the other comments, if not, okay, Commissioner A bear.
[1:06:32] I would like to make a motion to defer this item for 60 days.
[1:06:39] And I will ask that community input and will be involved with the final report.
[1:06:47] What's the deadline again?
[1:06:49] It's 10 to be free.
[1:06:51] Leave it's 59 days away.
[1:06:53] Yeah, I'm not sure we got 60.
[1:06:54] Is there a second as second if we don't have 60 days that's going to 50 nine days
[1:07:02] So we've a first in a second. Yes, and I remember number one as to the time frame
[1:07:11] I will reach out to
[1:07:14] Else rubber Hughes and I'm going to roll who initiated the motion to see if they will
[1:07:19] Accept slight extension that time so that we can
[1:07:24] So I have no problem doing that.
[1:07:28] The second, is there any, in addition to,
[1:07:34] Councilman, or Commissioner Phoshes,
[1:07:37] suggestions, as far as what we can do in the time period,
[1:07:40] I have to mean that if you've got other things
[1:07:42] for us to consider and bring back more information,
[1:07:46] we can certainly be able to do that.
[1:07:47] Yeah, I do have that.
[1:07:48] Do we have a motion on that?
[1:07:49] We have a, yeah, first in a second.
[1:07:51] Please, please.
[1:07:53] I'd like to ask staff, so first of all, we gave staff a compliment last time and I want to give them a compliment again.
[1:07:59] It was a really thorough report, but we've also now heard a bunch of other ideas and facts.
[1:08:09] So I'd like to ask in the space of the deferral, the things that struck me that I'd like to ask staff to address
[1:08:15] are one. Before I do, I think setting 20 megawatts as the floor beyond which it's large
[1:08:26] and the hyperscale is very good because it's low. I've looked at data to see the megawatts
[1:08:33] used by the centers that really put fear in everybody and they're above 20, so I think
[1:08:41] And he's a good floor, but I'd like to ask staff to consider lowering the floor for medium
[1:08:47] so that it's harder to get to medium, which would mean that, or lowering the floor so
[1:08:57] that more things are medium and fewer things are small so that it's harder to put up
[1:09:03] a data center, it's harder to be a small data center that has less restrictions.
[1:09:08] Second, we've heard that maybe some standards about water usage in addition to square footage and megawatt use would be helpful to maybe define what category somebody falls into.
[1:09:26] I'd like to ask if you could look at the 500 foot from a residence, that still seems small to me, and I wonder if it could be a larger distance.
[1:09:40] You may have to consult with legal, but I'd like to see a proviso that all of the data and all of the information that's used to make the decision about
[1:09:54] what capacity, what category something falls into is public.
[1:10:00] And not kept secret. We've heard a lot about non-disclosure of agreements in North Louisiana, and I'd like to see if we can add a condition that requires any application for any data center to have full information available to the public.
[1:10:24] don't know if it's possible to require medium data centers to have their own power plants
[1:10:30] so that they aren't drawing from the grid that serves residential homes.
[1:10:37] I know throughout the country sometimes they build their own power plants.
[1:10:41] I don't know if you could look into that.
[1:10:44] And I don't know if it's a laundry list, but these are things that everybody has that I've
[1:10:50] gleaned from the comments.
[1:10:54] And I think I think Commissioner Poshe's comment was apropos that this is really serious
[1:11:00] and we want to cover all these points and put all the work on you, Laura, but you've done
[1:11:08] such a good job so far that maybe you can handle all this stuff.
[1:11:12] I did hear a suggestion that maybe there be a limit,
[1:11:18] so many data centers per, and I don't
[1:11:21] know what, per, per radius of some distance so that they don't all get concentrated in
[1:11:29] the same place, if there are going to be any.
[1:11:34] So if you could look into some of those issues, I think that would be good at our next meeting
[1:11:41] those could be addressed, you know, one way or the other.
[1:11:45] And I have a few more to add, at least,
[1:11:51] that the institutional limitations be the same
[1:11:54] as defined for the small and medium, there was just sort of a caveat that it could apply
[1:12:00] to those educational and medical campuses, but not necessarily saying that it needs to
[1:12:15] to schools.
[1:12:20] And in the report, it does say that there's no on-site power generation, and I'm
[1:12:25] just wondering why that was stated. Yeah, we looked at that, and it seemed, well, from what we
[1:12:34] gather, the information we started seeing was that when there was on-site power generation,
[1:12:39] you started to get into a different world of permitting and allowances, and you started getting
[1:12:44] into more air quality issues and other types
[1:12:47] of potential negative impacts.
[1:12:49] And so we pulled that possibility from data centers
[1:12:53] to be able to generate their own power.
[1:12:56] In this report, but we can dive again into that
[1:12:59] and look at onsite power generation specifically for medium
[1:13:04] and see if there's more standards or regulations
[1:13:07] that could be put in place.
[1:13:09] It's just a different space and we usually work in.
[1:13:12] So we might need to pull some other.
[1:13:13] and it'll usually limit itself out
[1:13:15] just based on those regulations alone.
[1:13:19] And the last was the International Building
[1:13:22] cause IBC is coming up with this guideline for data centers
[1:13:27] and I would just request that we consider
[1:13:32] whatever that guideline is that we exceed that.
[1:13:35] So not just meeting the minimum standard
[1:13:37] but requiring above and beyond in both instances
[1:13:41] of small and medium.
[1:13:45] I'll add technician of lakes, districts, and schools, but also distances to retirement or memory
[1:13:51] care facilities, you know, just of our age and population.
[1:13:56] I'm on the fence about, you know, I realize as planners we also need to define the data
[1:14:01] centers.
[1:14:03] I could do an outright band, but I understand this wrap to sub here and this discussion is
[1:14:09] It's good you need to be able to define something first, so I will support this motion as we go ahead and start a voter.
[1:14:19] Are there any other comments?
[1:14:21] I do have a list of requests if we were to defer that the staff would explore.
[1:14:27] And I can provide these so you don't need to write them quickly.
[1:14:31] Develop a clear utility review standard and approval criteria.
[1:14:35] establish ongoing monitoring and reporting requirements,
[1:14:43] clarify enforcement mechanisms and consequences for non-compliance.
[1:14:48] evaluate requiring closed loop cooling systems, evaluate cumulative city-wide utility impact limits.
[1:15:00] Strington standards for backup power generation, developed decommissioning and site restoration requirements, likewise emergency response and shutdown requirements, and evaluate whether pending data center building code standards warrant additional provisions.
[1:15:25] Anymore?
[1:15:25] Good?
[1:15:30] Well then I'll call the vote.
[1:15:31] Commissioner Seek.
[1:15:33] Commissioner Wittre, yes.
[1:15:35] Commissioner Flick.
[1:15:35] Yes.
[1:15:35] Commissioner Aver.
[1:15:36] Yes.
[1:15:37] Commissioner Kapper.
[1:15:38] Yes.
[1:15:38] Commissioner Potje.
[1:15:39] Yes.
[1:15:40] Commissioner Jackson.
[1:15:43] All right.
[1:15:43] So the motion carries.
[1:15:44] This is deferment for 59 days.
[1:15:49] And the executive director is going to ask the council's
[1:15:52] that went ahead and produced this text amendment to work with us on timing.
[1:15:59] Thank you all for coming today and spending your afternoon with us and sharing all of the
[1:16:05] data points on advocating for your neighborhoods and the city of New Orleans.
[1:16:12] We're going to move on now to the Capital Improvement Project.
[1:16:17] Ms. Brian, it's on again.
[1:16:25] Yeah. Yeah, pushy. You second is a motion. Oh, Jackson. The other thing. Yeah.
[1:16:33] I was like, that was Jackson.
[1:16:47] I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
[1:16:53] All right.
[1:17:03] We're very excited to hear what you have to share.
[1:17:09] So this first one is the amendment to the Capital Improvement Plan.
[1:17:14] This is to serve as a public hearing for eight additional requests which weren't submitted to us by the time the plan was being considered.
[1:17:22] So the first two requests were included and will be included in the plan.
[1:17:27] The other six requests are additional requests that are requests for bond funding that were made earlier this month as a cost saving metric by the administration.
[1:17:36] the request is to pay for six different projects through capital that are eligible for capital
[1:17:44] bond funding. The first is for a cyber infrastructure refresh for 4.2 million and the second is
[1:17:50] for repairs. The city's data center on the third floor for 1.7 million.
[1:17:54] The next two. Excuse me, Ms. Bryant.
[1:17:56] I just-
[1:17:57] You all excuse me everybody. If you don't mind to sort of moving away from the mic just because we do have
[1:18:04] business that we need to conduct today.
[1:18:06] Thank you all so much for coming.
[1:18:07] I want to be able to hear what Ms. Brian is saying.
[1:18:13] All right, continue, please.
[1:18:14] Yes, the next two requests are from the CAO's office.
[1:18:18] They're for a fire station alerting system for 2.4 million
[1:18:21] and justice technology modernization project for 25.3 million.
[1:18:25] The next request is from DPW for traffic signal
[1:18:28] past arm upgrades at 778,000.
[1:18:31] The next is for biosafety lab updates
[1:18:34] for mosquito termite and rodent control board.
[1:18:37] The file for 298,000.
[1:18:39] The following one is for new police dog channels for NOPD,
[1:18:43] 117,000, and the last of these amendment requests
[1:18:47] is for capital improvements for New Orleans Public Schools
[1:18:50] for 5 million.
[1:18:52] Staff recommends, essentially, a approval
[1:18:54] of this amendment report.
[1:18:56] And it's just so we can include all of the proposed projects within the Capital Improvement Plan.
[1:19:03] Who'd be looking for an approval to add these?
[1:19:06] All right.
[1:19:06] Is there any questions or a motion to go ahead and add these eight projects?
[1:19:11] Commissioner Add Jackson.
[1:19:13] Yes.
[1:19:13] I want to ask for a motion on the floor to approve the eight proposals.
[1:19:18] Projects.
[1:19:19] Oh, I'm sorry.
[1:19:20] The other page.
[1:19:21] Projects.
[1:19:23] All right.
[1:19:23] Is there a second?
[1:19:24] Thank you commissioner Jackson and seconded by commissioner A bear any discussion.
[1:19:31] If not let's go ahead and vote commissioner Jackson.
[1:19:35] Yes.
[1:19:35] Mr. Poshay.
[1:19:37] Yes.
[1:19:37] Mr. Keper.
[1:19:38] Mr. A bear.
[1:19:40] Yes.
[1:19:41] Yes.
[1:19:41] Mr. Flick.
[1:19:42] Mr. Flick.
[1:19:45] Commissioner Husty.
[1:19:47] Yes.
[1:19:48] Okay, so we'd love to include these eight projects in the capital improvement draft amendment.
[1:20:00] All right, now we're going to move on. So this is the 2027 through 2031 capital improvement plan.
[1:20:10] Okay, today we're going to go through the legal background and CPC responsibilities, the CIP development process.
[1:20:17] Just to describe the funding categories, provide an overview of funding requests and analysis of the submissions by categories and project types and then provide proposed priorities recommendations in the next.
[1:20:30] So the legal background and CPC responsibilities, the charter requires that the City Planning Commission
[1:20:36] prepare the Capital Improvement Plan and assist the Chief Administrative Officer in the
[1:20:41] preparation of the annual Capital Budget. The Capital Improvement Plan includes five years of proposed
[1:20:47] capital expenditures from 2027 through 2031. Staff reviews each project to ensure consistency
[1:20:55] with the master plan, the plan for the 21st century.
[1:20:58] A project is consistent with the master plan, if it furtheres, or at least is not interfere
[1:21:03] with the goals, policies, and guidelines, and the land use element of the master plan,
[1:21:07] or the project is compatible with the proposed future land use.
[1:21:12] While some projects do not have specific addresses, they are consistent by contributing to
[1:21:17] goals or policies within different chapters of the master plan. The CPC works closely with
[1:21:23] File Home in Capital Budget Director and Jerry Harris from Capital Project Administration to
[1:21:28] coordinate the capital plan each year.
[1:21:31] The submissions were due on May 1st and CPC Health Public hearings from May 18th through
[1:21:37] May 27th for departments to present the request.
[1:21:41] It's being considered today and is required to be submitted to the mayor by September 15th.
[1:21:52] So the development process, the process kicks off in April with a webinar for city agencies and then each agency works with capital projects liaison to coordinate their submissions.
[1:22:04] This year, we used the software Questica as we did last year for the first time to receive all the individual project requests.
[1:22:12] Once the request are submitted online the staff collects and reviews each request and then holds the public hearings for the departments to present each request.
[1:22:20] We also had IT develop a public-facing dashboard with the project information, so it's more accessible to the public.
[1:22:30] The staff reviews each request for Master Plan consistency and compiles the capital improvement plan.
[1:22:37] So the funding categories, there are four really four main funding categories, it's general obligation bonds, self-generated funds, intergovernmental funds, and then federal grant funds.
[1:22:49] either from U.S. Department of Transportation or from EPA.
[1:22:56] This year, 27 agencies submitted a total of 187 requests.
[1:23:03] Most of those are four general obligation bonds.
[1:23:08] Some were from the self-generated funds,
[1:23:11] and then there were intergovernmental and federal funds for the projects.
[1:23:18] Largely
[1:23:26] projects that are requests for capital funds fell under a short number of categories.
[1:23:31] Staff spent time this year categorizing each project submitted to gain an understanding
[1:23:35] of what types of requests are primarily going through the CIP.
[1:23:39] Primary categories include planning, which are requests generally referring to studies, design
[1:23:44] work, feasibility analysis, or pre-construction activities needed before a project
[1:23:48] to move forward, renovation or continuing maintenance requests involve repair, rehabilitation,
[1:23:54] replacement, or ongoing upkeep of existing facilities and infrastructure.
[1:23:59] Equipment requests cover the purchase or replacement of major items such as vehicles,
[1:24:03] machinery, or specialized operational equipment.
[1:24:06] Technology requests included hardware, software, systems or infrastructure that supports public
[1:24:11] services and administrative operations.
[1:24:14] New construction requests are for building new facilities or major additions, will land
[1:24:18] requisition requests involve purchasing property needed for future use.
[1:24:22] Majority of requests are for repair or continuing maintenance of existing facilities.
[1:24:30] So during the process, the departments rank their projects in two ways.
[1:24:34] The first way is by identifying which of the projects are the highest priority to the department.
[1:24:39] The second is by ranking each project against 19 criteria to generate a score within an evaluation matrix.
[1:24:46] Upon analysis of the department's priorities versus the CIP matrix scores, the data revealed
[1:24:52] that the projects that scored the highest with the departments were not always the highest
[1:24:56] scoring CIP matrix project.
[1:25:00] The data shows that the nature of the highest-ranked projects by the department tend to relate to immediate operational needs and deferred maintenance, while the CIP matrix favors assets, longevity, resilience, and multi-benefit public infrastructure.
[1:25:14] And so this cable basically shows the highest matrix scoring projects ranked by the
[1:25:22] Department, I'm sorry, the highest matrix scoring projects, the amount requested, the score,
[1:25:28] the department that submitted the project, and also you'll see that they are separated into
[1:25:32] different funding tiers. We received 187 requests and they range in terms of total project amount
[1:25:40] funding. So as opposed to just doing by the highest amount requested in order to really capture
[1:25:47] the diversity in the capital project needs requests, we broke them out into different fiscal
[1:25:52] tiers.
[1:25:55] I have a question. Have we really dug into the deferred maintenance issue in terms of
[1:26:02] like that being part of a capital expenditure versus just to do? To qualify to be part of the
[1:26:12] The dollar value has to be over $5,000, and it has to be a lifespan of 10 years.
[1:26:18] And so you do get these sort of large investments that are continuing maintenance and
[1:26:23] renovation of facilities that are, you know, HVAC repair, elevator repair, these large
[1:26:28] expenses.
[1:26:30] But Kyle Mr. Homan is here, and he does do an analysis of each quest to make sure that,
[1:26:38] I mean, I'm curious when those dollar amounts were established.
[1:26:41] How do you define it when the 5,000?
[1:26:46] It's just like what year.
[1:26:47] It just seems low.
[1:26:49] Or just the price to do anything.
[1:26:51] We can look into it.
[1:26:53] Thank you.
[1:26:58] Questions?
[1:27:01] We're keeping up with this.
[1:27:02] Next.
[1:27:05] So during the CPC review period, staff conducted three site visits.
[1:27:09] One to the nulla crime lab.
[1:27:11] The public safety warehouse and the Maribou Water Gardens.
[1:27:13] While many of the issues in terms of the NOAA Crime Lab are general maintenance issues for the NOAA Crime Lab,
[1:27:21] part of the request is also to redesign the fourth floor to allow for compliance with federal regulations in order to gain access to an FBI database.
[1:27:29] This would allow the Department to conduct nationwide DNA searches in-house.
[1:27:33] Currently, the facility is an adequate and it's designed to receive this access, so that's a part of that one request.
[1:27:39] The Public Safety Warehouse is a request to increase capacity and prove the existing facility
[1:27:44] to further support the needs of our emergency service providers, NLFD, EMS, and the NOPD.
[1:27:50] And the Mayor of Water Gardens project has made significant progress.
[1:27:54] The Public Park portion of the site is slated to open soon.
[1:27:58] An portion of the site, as you can see, is also still under construction, but that is one
[1:28:03] of our storm water management projects coming online.
[1:28:07] So, big stuff.
[1:28:11] Okay,
[1:28:15] so unlike last year, the amount of bond funds that are available to be allocated is zero dollars that have been attributed to the project, that's because last year the CIP was informed that the bond proposition that went out to the voters in the fall of 2025, the voters approved a 510 million bond initiative, and so there were allocations throughout the CIP last year sort of allocating that potential future bonds sale.
[1:28:43] This year, what we have heard is that the 510 million will be sold in three at three different
[1:28:50] moments.
[1:28:51] The first group of the 510 million was sold this summer.
[1:28:55] We have Kyle here who could provide more information.
[1:28:58] The city council adopted project lists based on the submissions from last year for infrastructure
[1:29:04] for stormwater and green infrastructure and, sorry, stormwater and drainage and then
[1:29:11] affordable housing was the third bucket of projects under the bond proposition and those would
[1:29:20] be determined by the housing trust funds advisory committee.
[1:29:25] And so all the requests this year you'll see in the Capital Improvement Plan are that all
[1:29:30] the requests that are submitted for bond funds will have a zero dollar recommendation and
[1:29:35] that is because any of these future bonds sales that will happen to fulfill the 510 million
[1:29:41] will go to those projects that are on those lists. What we do know is that those lists
[1:29:46] can be amended. They have been amended twice so far. One of our recommendations for those future
[1:29:54] sales is that the projects that are prioritized are continuing maintenance and renovating.
[1:30:00] The presentation of existing facilities as opposed to the creation of new facilities. We see so many of those projects coming in.
[1:30:07] And the other recommendation we have is to modify that list to include some of those projects that were previously removed from the list, which is the June-Aljustice and Prevention Center.
[1:30:17] They had a series of projects last year that we recommended for funding, and then they were removed from the infrastructure list and so we recommend that would be put back on.
[1:30:25] And I think that concludes mainly.
[1:30:32] Okay, so the next steps is agree today.
[1:30:34] We're presenting it to you.
[1:30:36] This would be approved.
[1:30:38] And then it has to be sent to the mayor by September 15th.
[1:30:43] And the administration will prepare the capital budget and submit it to the city council.
[1:30:47] And then the city council will hear the capital improvement plan and the capital budget.
[1:30:51] And approve a capital budget ordinance by December 1st.
[1:31:05] That was an exceptional presentation.
[1:31:09] There's so much information.
[1:31:13] I'm just amazed at all of the inner workings here.
[1:31:18] And I'm going to just, we have four new commissioners
[1:31:21] that this is your first capital improvement project presentation.
[1:31:25] So we're welcome.
[1:31:26] We're glad that you're here to be able to listen to it
[1:31:28] and be a part of this process.
[1:31:29] It's annual.
[1:31:30] And so I think we're probably going to have,
[1:31:32] are you going to come up and say anything maybe yes I think I mean I think it would be
[1:31:39] helpful to introduce yourself just because we also have four new commissioners and for
[1:31:43] institutional knowledge it would be nice
[1:31:54] now we can all right there you go there I can you all right after then my name's Kyle
[1:32:00] home and I'm a director for capital budget and fiscal management and so Laura had mentioned
[1:32:06] earlier this is our second year having everything submitted in
[1:32:09] Questaca which has really helped us efficiency-wise with this
[1:32:14] entire process so that has given us the opportunity at looking at how we
[1:32:19] can make this process better in future years. So we've done a lot of
[1:32:24] kind of analysis and beginning that work of what will future CIP processes
[1:32:29] look at whether we're looking at like maintenance and operation costs that
[1:32:34] come along with these CIPs, you know, a stronger definition of what constitutes a repair versus
[1:32:41] what constitutes a renovation and more eligible for the capital budget and just in addition
[1:32:48] to that being able to look at the different funding sources because we rely heavily on bonds
[1:32:54] but also federal grants to get a lot of these projects done.
[1:32:57] And so we are making improvements every year with kind of this process and we've already
[1:33:05] also talked about kind of what incorporating Susan Waterboard into our capital budget planning
[1:33:11] will look like for the future because that was recently required by the Council starting this
[1:33:19] year and moving forward because especially with our public works projects every time we're
[1:33:26] We're tearing up a street, we need a coordinate closely with Susan Waterboard on those uneground
[1:33:30] utilities at the same time.
[1:33:33] So having that planning together at the beginning will help kind of avoid these issues about
[1:33:39] his paying for what and not having to dig up streets after they've already been paved.
[1:33:48] Thank you so much.
[1:33:49] It's nice just being this is probably my fifth or sixth year listening and I can tell
[1:33:53] last few years, it's been more streamlined, great presentation, more efficiency involved,
[1:34:00] and so we love hearing those things, and we're seeing it as well.
[1:34:04] So thank you. You all have any questions?
[1:34:07] Should we come up with a list of things for staff to pursue like we did last time?
[1:34:13] Yes.
[1:34:16] Yes. Commissioner, if like did you want to,
[1:34:22] okay.
[1:34:23] I was just genuinely curious about the minimum amount just because in order to do pretty
[1:34:29] much anything, even replace a very small AC unit or even lights can easily eat up that
[1:34:36] minimum amount.
[1:34:37] So just in terms of like how, you know, we have all this data that appears to be electronic,
[1:34:44] right?
[1:34:44] Like how are we evaluating that data and using that to sort of trim the fat if you will on
[1:34:50] operate on an annual basis for, you know, what can be just ongoing maintenance versus which
[1:34:56] really a capital expenditure. I think that's something really interesting.
[1:35:00] That we can sort of hold on to now that we have the data and this sort of format.
[1:35:09] Thank you. That's exactly why I asked. Yes, Commissioner Stan Mova Prouble.
[1:35:15] Thank you. Is there a second?
[1:35:17] Thank you. We have a motion on the floor for approval for the Capital Improvement Plan. Is there any discussion?
[1:35:26] All right. Let's vote. Commissioner C.
[1:35:28] Yes.
[1:35:29] Commissioner Witchery?
[1:35:30] Yes.
[1:35:35] Commissioner Abear?
[1:35:37] Commissioner Kappa?
[1:35:39] And Commissioner Poshay?
[1:35:40] Yes.
[1:35:41] Okay.
[1:35:42] And Commissioner Jackson.
[1:35:44] Yes.
[1:35:45] Thank you.
[1:35:46] So the motion carries.
[1:35:48] Good luck.
[1:35:49] Thank you.
[1:35:51] And I believe we can now move into this subdivision ratifications.
[1:35:55] Thank you for being here.
[1:36:01] Thank you ladies to for a great report.
[1:36:04] You have several submissions to red sign.
[1:36:08] All right, is there a motion?
[1:36:09] So moved.
[1:36:10] Thank you, is there a second?
[1:36:12] Thank you.
[1:36:13] Commissioner Flick, moved for approval.
[1:36:15] Commissioner Jackson second.
[1:36:17] Any discussion?
[1:36:19] All right.
[1:36:20] Commissioner Jackson.
[1:36:23] Commissioner Poshay.
[1:36:25] Commissioner Kappa.
[1:36:27] Commissioner Abear.
[1:36:29] Commissioner Flick.
[1:36:30] Yes.
[1:36:30] Commissioner Wettries again. Yes. Yes. And I'll need a motion to adjourn.
[1:36:36] Motion. Thank you. All in favor. Everyone. Thank you for helping us today with all the tech to. I know you can hear me.