[0:04] person Doug and I work. How do we spell?

[0:30] » I'm going to start the recording.

[0:33] >> Recording in progress. Now that we are

[0:35] recording,

[0:37] this is the September 8th meeting from

[0:41] the village of North Bend

[0:44] and we will call this meeting to order.

[0:47] It's 6:59

[0:49] and counting. Um so our first order of

[0:52] business is to address our public

[0:54] attendees. We have several in the

[0:56] audience. Lori will note them. We'll

[0:59] have them noted in the minutes. U let me

[1:02] first ask if there is any one had any uh

[1:06] changes to the

[1:08] agenda. We won't add items. We can

[1:12] postpone if need be and we can reorder.

[1:17] Hearing none, we'll move on. Uh oh, hold

[1:20] on. Got somebody coming in.

[1:28] Lori, this is a Michael Miller joining

[1:32] by Zoom

[1:35] and Mr. Miller or whoever is using your

[1:40] name there, should you wish to

[1:43] say something, please feel free to do

[1:45] so. Um, but right now we will

[1:51] see Mr.

[1:52] here in the audience and

[1:55] floor is yours for a few minutes. Mr.

[1:57] Flory.

[1:59] >> Yes, floor is yours.

[2:02] >> We come here tonight because even after

[2:05] one or four cases and all their homes

[2:08] are still blocked from town.

[2:12] We wanted to speak on the drainage work

[2:14] done at Mechanic Street. We want the

[2:17] trustees to know that in 1986 under the

[2:20] direction of bug honor

[2:23] we dug the pipe across the road with our

[2:26] chamber back ho

[2:29] supplied material we did labor for free

[2:33] again in 2001

[2:36] after we put all 40 acres in we just

[2:40] moved under the road for my bike flat

[2:43] put the black village said 20 ft wide

[2:48] 24 ft. We taught the people walk in 24

[2:52] ft

[2:54] to make it easier for people to walk.

[2:56] Mechanic Street could be blacked out the

[2:59] same 24 feet wide so people can walk

[3:03] easier.

[3:05] The last four

[3:07] added up high,

[3:10] but there was never anything there

[3:12] before.

[3:15] Over is set right on the edge of the

[3:17] road with a deep ditch on each side.

[3:20] This will make it possible for anybody

[3:22] to walk on the edge without falling into

[3:26] the ditch. One of my neighbors

[3:29] fell walking down mechanic street and

[3:31] broke her arm. We asked for safety

[3:36] of people walking to remove the upper

[3:38] cover and ditch that was added.

[3:42] We wouldn't want another accident. And

[3:44] if you want to call me, my phone number

[3:47] is 8024473552.

[3:52] And we are going to do a handheld and we

[3:55] do have pictures of

[4:00] » Did you just hand out

[4:02] >> Mr. Corey? Did you advise the village

[4:05] when you said did you see an accident

[4:08] occur?

[4:09] with a

[4:12] woman? You said a neighbor. Did you see

[4:16] an accident happen with a neighbor? As

[4:19] you just read,

[4:20] >> she she fell on me a gangster somewhere.

[4:24] >> You saw it or you just heard this?

[4:27] >> She told me she fell.

[4:28] >> Okay. Did you or did you report this to

[4:31] the village for their insurance

[4:33] purposes? Did you advise her to do so?

[4:37] >> She just told me she fell.

[4:39] >> Okay.

[4:39] >> When did she fall?

[4:44] when

[4:48] I

[4:49] >> Okay. She she needs to contact Mr. Cory.

[4:53] She needs to contact the clerk because

[4:56] this is a major insurance that we have

[4:59] to file paperwork for. If somebody fell

[5:03] in law school, it

[5:05] >> that's a problem.

[5:07] >> If something happened while a village

[5:09] was doing work, it needs to be reported

[5:11] properly.

[5:14] Paul's she told me she called.

[5:16] >> Okay. If she if she can't report it,

[5:18] then we can't say that it's fact.

[5:21] The the village has insurance,

[5:24] >> then she needs to then she needs to

[5:27] contact the clerk.

[5:28] >> Yeah.

[5:29] >> Otherwise,

[5:31] >> yes.

[5:32] >> Okay, Margaret.

[5:33] >> Yeah. Um

[5:33] >> Margaret wants to

[5:34] >> Okay. Okay. We went to Home Depot and

[5:37] got a fire pit. The new burn ordinance

[5:41] says we don't need a permit

[5:44] for fire pits. So asking the trustees if

[5:49] we can burn Ed Meyers said to ask you

[5:56] Ed Meyers is the fire warden and he is

[6:01] the one with the authority. So we

[6:04] followed the trustees followed the

[6:06] advice of of the fire

[6:08] >> warden

[6:12] » hold on hold on yes Tara

[6:14] >> um just a reminder that we just adopted

[6:17] the new burn ordinance so it has to

[6:20] comply with the burn ordinance and ED

[6:23] >> yes so Ed would know what the burn

[6:25] ordinance is because that burn ordinance

[6:27] is NFF hold on I got somebody else

[6:30] coming in Um, yes. Uh, uh,

[6:35] >> can he do it?

[6:36] >> Contact Ed Meyers. I do not know. Ed

[6:39] Myers is

[6:40] >> Ed ask you.

[6:42] >> Well,

[6:43] >> but that puts it Good question mark.

[6:47] >> Well, according to the If I could say

[6:49] something, according to what we adopted,

[6:52] uh, fire pits are permitted. So, it is a

[6:56] permitted, uh, activity.

[6:59] >> So, we need that one.

[7:01] But Scott,

[7:02] >> no. You need to have a permit first.

[7:05] >> Yeah, Scott, there's also a definition

[7:08] of what a fire pit is versus an open

[7:10] burn.

[7:11] >> How to burn fire pit.

[7:13] >> So there there is a Tara has a a point

[7:16] to make too.

[7:17] >> Yes,

[7:17] >> there is a definition of a fire pit. Go

[7:20] to the website, get a take take a look

[7:24] at the open burn ordinance. Can we

[7:28] >> we will mail you a copy of the burn of

[7:30] the of the ordinance

[7:32] >> because a fire pit is a very specific um

[7:35] sided uh I think it's under three foot

[7:39] pit that is either with metal or

[7:42] concrete on the outsides or or rock on

[7:44] the outside whereas an open burn has no

[7:47] sides no edging and is much larger. So

[7:49] there's a distinction between the two

[7:51] and that dictates what is permissible to

[7:55] be done in terms of burning.

[7:57] >> Thank you, Tara. Well said. We will mail

[8:00] you a copy of the of the ordinance and

[8:04] if need be, we can see what Ed's Myers's

[8:09] question was.

[8:10] >> Can Can we not?

[8:13] >> I'm not going to do it right now. I'm

[8:14] not interrupting a meeting.

[8:16] >> Someone else could do it. Somebody else

[8:17] could if you feel like doing it, but I

[8:19] am not interrupting the meeting.

[8:22] >> Um,

[8:22] >> I didn't say you.

[8:23] >> Yes, please feel free to.

[8:27] >> I don't have access to

[8:30] >> Okay. Um,

[8:32] anything else?

[8:36] » I still didn't quite understand you,

[8:37] Mary.

[8:39] Can you burn without a permit if it's in

[8:41] the fire?

[8:42] >> Not without a permit.

[8:45] All fires need a permit.

[8:49] There are distinctions between like if

[8:52] you're doing a lot of brush work and

[8:54] you're you're burning a big pile of

[8:57] trees and things versus a fire pit that

[9:02] you, you know,

[9:04] uh have marshmallows at with your

[9:07] family, you know, around the back yard.

[9:11] So you need to see which category you're

[9:14] talking about and I think the fire would

[9:18] be the best person to discuss it with

[9:20] >> and if the fire warden feels it is not

[9:22] clear we will mail you a copen

[9:26] they burn almost every night during

[9:28] summer

[9:29] >> and they've done it for 10 years no

[9:31] fires not huge

[9:36] >> we are not in a position to say yes or

[9:39] no it is our opinion that all of them

[9:42] need a um need a permit. And as Tara

[9:47] said, there is a very specific

[9:49] definition of um of a fire pit and we'll

[9:54] mail you that ordinance if you haven't

[9:57] seen it and you can then refer to that

[10:01] and you can compare what you have to

[10:03] what is listed in that ordinance.

[10:08] » No.

[10:09] >> Okay. I would say do not be on the safe

[10:12] side. Do not burn until you know exactly

[10:15] what the ordinance says.

[10:18] >> And you have a mail that

[10:20] >> and you have a permit.

[10:22] >> I can mail that out by the end of the

[10:24] day tomorrow.

[10:26] Not any sooner.

[10:27] >> Sooner than tomorrow. The post office is

[10:29] closed.

[10:30] >> When? Tomorrow.

[10:31] >> She said end of day tomorrow.

[10:32] >> End of day tomorrow. So you can't do it

[10:35] tonight and put it in the mail tomorrow.

[10:37] So then that's it. Yeah. It hasn't even

[10:40] been adopted here, has it?

[10:42] >> Yes,

[10:42] >> it has been.

[10:43] adopted. It has been warned.

[10:45] It has been posted. It has been put in

[10:47] the newspaper. It is effective.

[10:51] >> And the person who's to make the

[10:53] judgment is

[10:57] » correct. And we couldn't we don't have

[11:00] the expertise anyway.

[11:01] >> Okay.

[11:07] >> At some point by 5:00 tomorrow, it will

[11:10] be in it will be in in the mailbox.

[11:14] Yes.

[11:15] >> All right. Well, thank you for your

[11:16] opinions and we will move on to our

[11:19] agenda.

[11:22] >> And uh next order of business is

[11:25] approving our minutes of August 11th.

[11:28] >> Okay.

[11:33] I hope I had sent these out with all the

[11:36] various

[11:38] >> Yeah, I just had a couple comments. Um

[11:41] because it

[11:42] >> Okay, we're g since I was not at that

[11:46] meeting. Let's make sure that Lori Let's

[11:49] make sure that you can hear what the

[11:51] comments are in case there's something

[11:52] to be edited.

[11:55] >> Go ahead.

[11:55] >> Okay. All right. uh under the highway

[11:57] report uh the first paragraph last

[12:00] sentence the fire hydrants will also be

[12:02] continued to be worked on the fire

[12:05] hydrants are completed um not sure where

[12:08] the confusion's name but

[12:12] >> that's one okay

[12:13] >> and then on the next page

[12:17] >> um second paragraph

[12:18] >> saying they were completed at the time

[12:19] of the meeting

[12:21] >> okay

[12:22] >> um Mr. Goodrich. And a second paragraph,

[12:25] second page, uh that starts with Mr.

[12:28] Goodrich. Um

[12:31] and goes on to say, "Superintendent

[12:33] Leblanc will get pricing in the morning.

[12:36] Can we say get pricing for a Hall Street

[12:38] paving?"

[12:39] >> Yeah.

[12:40] >> Just so we don't go back to this and

[12:42] >> Well, I thought that was also for scary.

[12:47] >> No, this is for Hall Street. This is for

[12:49] actually

[12:51] Well, that That was, you know, both both

[12:54] streets had repairs to do.

[12:56] >> Was it for both? No.

[12:58] >> What's that?

[12:58] >> Was it for Scary Lane and Hall Street?

[13:01] You were getting a price for the

[13:02] patches.

[13:03] >> Yes.

[13:04] >> Okay.

[13:06] >> So, build that. I'm curious to I just

[13:10] need to know if we, you know, come down.

[13:13] We got to be able to close that circle.

[13:15] So,

[13:16] >> okay.

[13:18] >> Did Does that make sense, Lori? Did you

[13:21] get those two comments, Lori?

[13:23] >> All set.

[13:25] >> Okay, thank you. That's it.

[13:26] >> Thank you. Okay,

[13:30] so with those two

[13:33] edits, anybody else have any questions

[13:36] or comments?

[13:42] » No.

[13:42] >> We're looking for a motion and a second.

[13:46] I'll make a motion we approve the

[13:48] minutes

[13:49] >> as amended.

[13:50] >> Okay.

[13:51] >> A second

[13:52] >> and seconded by David. All right. Lori has that. All in favor?

[13:57] >> I.

[13:59] >> So there are four Lori. There are four

[14:02] approvals and I am abstaining. I was not

[14:05] at that meeting.

[14:08] >> All right.

[14:11] If we're good with that, let's move on

[14:13] to

[14:15] Norm.

[14:18] You're up.

[14:19] >> All right. So, uh we obviously went

[14:22] through the banks the uh all of all the

[14:27] open work with our water department has

[14:32] been completed

[14:33] except for the uh one last shut out over

[14:38] at the little league fields which we'll

[14:39] do before October that's in dirt so

[14:42] that's not a real big deal. Um we've had

[14:46] a couple days again we talked about

[14:49] street. So the first thing to say during

[14:51] any of the time that we worked there was no

[14:55] um

[14:56] you know that happened at any time in

[14:58] order to neighbor came out and told us

[15:00] anything. Uh I understand his concern

[15:03] about where the upper culvert is. That's

[15:06] just where it has to be. There's tons of

[15:09] big trees and you know that's life.

[15:11] Collvers on the side of the road are not

[15:13] uncommon. We can walk around and see a

[15:15] hundred of them in the buildings. Uh

[15:17] about the culverts that have been

[15:19] replaced across the road. I was told

[15:22] long ago that that you know for somehow

[15:25] when they built the development they put

[15:27] them in. They're 40 plus year old metal

[15:31] culvers they were on. Okay. And uh we

[15:34] can go back and forth to say, you know,

[15:36] at the height or whatever, but uh

[15:38] they're put in now at a height that they

[15:41] will take water. And you would have seen

[15:42] that road for years drive by and the

[15:44] water did not fall into those powers. Um

[15:48] so with that being said, we have a

[15:50] unique opportunity.

[15:52] Uh, and usually most of my world

[15:55] revolves around these kind of things,

[15:57] but the town of Bennington is delayed a

[16:00] little bit in some paving and we can

[16:03] have our paver we hire every year come

[16:07] and probably do it tomorrow to pave that

[16:10] stretch of road over where we have done

[16:13] that's all broken up.

[16:14] >> Yeah.

[16:15] >> And really what I say we should

[16:17] definitely shoot with this. Okay.

[16:19] There's there's about 6 in rut down

[16:22] through there when you're out there in

[16:23] the rain and you see it. And we've

[16:24] broken a lot of that that down.

[16:27] >> So it'll yield about an inch and a half

[16:29] of black top by the time he fills it and

[16:31] skims it. But he would patch that side

[16:33] of the road and you see where it is

[16:36] broken up. So as soon as our plows go

[16:38] over it, it's going to destroy it.

[16:40] >> So what section are you talking about?

[16:43] The entire

[16:43] >> talking about the house. No, the house

[16:46] before Steve.

[16:47] >> Yeah. to or to uh George Street.

[16:51] >> Okay. where they're going to pick up a

[16:53] good spot and they're going to end in a

[16:55] decent spot and they're going to re

[16:58] reshape

[17:00] that road right there and basically just

[17:04] do a one bolt and done patch and that

[17:08] will take those rucks out of that road

[17:10] to let that water

[17:11] >> but on that one section of the road

[17:13] >> just that one section

[17:15] >> because when you go further towards

[17:18] Madison it's very crumbly along

[17:21] >> the whole road

[17:22] But I know that we talk about doing that

[17:24] in a future year,

[17:25] >> right? And you know, so so in our big

[17:29] plan, unless the world changes, you

[17:32] know, maybe we sell uh Adam

[17:36] donation of the body or something, we

[17:38] get a lot of money from uh you know,

[17:41] we're three to four years pave that

[17:44] road. Okay?

[17:45] >> You know what I mean? And that that's

[17:46] realistic because you know, our next one

[17:48] we're going to do is salary. We got one

[17:50] more drainage piece on that. I don't

[17:54] have my tape work yet, but it's coming

[17:56] very soon. We have all the pipe, but we

[17:59] don't have the boxes, but I don't know.

[18:01] We're running out of time this winter.

[18:05] Uh, but we were never going to pay that

[18:07] this year.

[18:08] >> No, I I not going to. That's why I'm

[18:11] still trying to envision what you're

[18:13] talking about.

[18:14] >> No, what I'm talking about is a patch.

[18:17] >> A patch. Okay. on Mechanic Street where

[18:20] that water is rotted out and that whole

[18:22] sides broke.

[18:23] >> Okay. So, where you started up

[18:28] down from George Street and started

[18:31] building the the culvert in there,

[18:35] >> is that the way it's going to stay or

[18:37] will it have rock or

[18:38] >> No, that's the way just like that.

[18:40] >> That's the way they're going to stay.

[18:42] It'll just grow grass.

[18:43] >> Okay.

[18:44] >> And and that'll be it. Now, we'll watch

[18:45] it and maintain it and look at it

[18:47] through the year.

[18:49] uh we're going to try to to stab pave it

[18:52] in ourselves.

[18:55] It's really hard to get that kind of

[18:57] width and get that length.

[18:59] >> So, what's the expense of that?

[19:01] >> 21.

[19:03] And if he'll do it to and he'll if he's

[19:05] going to do it while he's here.

[19:10] » Um it's a good bite out of the budget.

[19:14] >> It is. We're planning on paving scary

[19:17] lane this year.

[19:19] >> So, so some of that should be there.

[19:22] >> Uh, you know, I'm sure if we need, you

[19:24] know, for taxes maybe, you know, would

[19:26] be three, four weeks till we get through

[19:27] this pay, it won't be a problem with

[19:29] that.

[19:29] >> So, you're So, you're saying it's

[19:31] basically a replacement.

[19:33] >> It's basically a tax.

[19:34] >> No, no, no, no. Meaning you're not going

[19:36] to do scary.

[19:39] when we did earlier when when we sat

[19:41] down and did the budget for this fiscal

[19:44] year.

[19:44] >> That's correct.

[19:45] >> The number for scary was in that's was

[19:48] in

[19:48] >> Okay.

[19:49] >> I mean that's if it's if it's not doing

[19:52] one and doing the other and they're

[19:54] similar pricing.

[19:55] >> Yeah.

[19:56] >> Then I I mean

[19:57] >> Okay.

[19:58] >> Can I just ask a question about what 21

[20:02] means? Is that 20

[20:03] >> 21

[20:04] >> 21,000?

[20:05] >> Yeah. if it was $21 and 2100. They

[20:09] wouldn't even be asking, you know, by

[20:11] the time they got to tell Keyway

[20:14] and do a couple things, but it'll be,

[20:16] you know, it'll be a patch. And what

[20:18] happens when you go out there, it is

[20:19] deep and it's, you know, we're no

[20:20] stranger to deep cos go down on Park

[20:23] Street and you see that, right?

[20:24] >> Yeah.

[20:24] >> And why we had to do those delineators

[20:27] out and we'll probably do a couple of

[20:29] them for that. But it's water is your

[20:31] humongous issue. And uh when we head

[20:34] over to to Madison Road, you take a walk

[20:36] in Madison Road.

[20:38] >> You stand there and you look at that

[20:39] driveway and you see how deep that is.

[20:41] >> Yeah.

[20:42] >> Right. To get water to move,

[20:45] >> you know. So, but this is we're going to

[20:48] be there for a couple years. That whole

[20:51] side of that road was destroyed before

[20:52] we got there. We've seen that. So, it

[20:54] needs to be fixed.

[20:56] Well, I will tell you, I walk and bike

[20:58] that every single day, and I do not feel

[21:01] like I'm going to fall into the ditch.

[21:04] And uh I I do anxiously await the day

[21:08] that there's a good pavement to walk on,

[21:11] but in the meanwhile, you just you're

[21:13] just careful.

[21:15] >> So,

[21:16] >> well, it's never going to be wide on the

[21:17] first sidewalk.

[21:18] >> No. And we had talked about the dance

[21:20] street. A sidewalk

[21:23] >> probably past the cemetery has never

[21:25] even been in the the realm of

[21:27] >> No, I don't think that would be we well

[21:30] a whole different subject because a

[21:32] whole different scoping study needed.

[21:34] But at any rate, um you know, I defer to

[21:36] you when you know what needs to be done

[21:39] and how it needs to be done. And

[21:42] >> you know it's we

[21:43] >> save on that other ones we we've uh

[21:46] >> and again doing some things we're in old

[21:49] Ben right now so there'll be a little

[21:50] income from that.

[21:52] >> Uh it's really we need to capitalize.

[21:55] We're so small and we we do so much so

[21:58] little we need to capitalize on when we

[21:59] can do it.

[22:01] >> You know he's got a free day. It's going

[22:02] to save him money. Going to save us

[22:04] money.

[22:05] >> I'm okay with it.

[22:07] >> Any other questions?

[22:08] >> Just just

[22:11] Uh how many lineal feet has that run

[22:13] that you're talking?

[22:15] >> Yeah, you know off the top of my head

[22:18] because we were on the phone and you

[22:19] know trying to do something else while

[22:20] he's over there probably 100 yards or

[22:23] something you know what I mean to you

[22:25] know goes

[22:27] >> you know he's going to start so we have

[22:29] Steve's house we'll just use that as a

[22:31] landmark.

[22:32] >> Okay. So before it and when we were out

[22:34] there last week when the rain when the

[22:36] rain came, okay, we've always assumed

[22:38] that it came mostly from Lor and I think

[22:40] after it rains for a couple hours, it

[22:42] definitely comes at a large field.

[22:45] There's a little cutout in the back by

[22:46] that tree and it'll come down

[22:49] >> but a ton of it comes from the other one

[22:51] from the the Cory acres roadside and the

[22:55] way that goes and the three houses all

[22:58] their gutter systems come out on the

[23:00] front lawn. So, it's catching all that

[23:01] water and then it's bringing it right

[23:02] immediately out the driveways

[23:05] >> and then it and then it comes. Well, now

[23:07] last week when we when we were out

[23:09] there, that first caller was taking all

[23:12] the water. Not I mean, it was blowing

[23:14] right on the other side of the road just

[23:16] like it's supposed to. And an hour after

[23:18] it rained, you couldn't even tell there

[23:19] was water on the other side. So, that's

[23:22] good.

[23:22] >> Yes.

[23:23] >> The other color, it was in that big

[23:25] rough. So, I knocked that down and we

[23:28] were seeing if it's better, but when I

[23:30] heard I might have a shot and get it

[23:33] cleaned up.

[23:34] >> Okay.

[23:35] >> I I made a call and I just got it at

[23:38] 4:30 tonight.

[23:39] >> Okay.

[23:41] >> All right. Thank you for answering my

[23:42] questions. I've got a better

[23:44] understanding why 21 times.

[23:47] >> And if you're on that side of the road,

[23:48] which we do see a lot of walkers in the

[23:50] morning when they get there, it won't be

[23:51] all that black and it won't be uneven.

[23:53] It'll be an even surface

[23:56] >> at least for that stretch. That'll be a

[23:58] welcome thing.

[23:58] >> And I mean we could the whole world

[24:01] needs to go but we are in in reality

[24:04] unless the world changes we are three to

[24:06] four out

[24:08] >> okay

[24:08] >> for that road and this will be a good

[24:11] patch

[24:12] >> and that that is that all of that

[24:14] capital planning is the topic of another

[24:16] discussion at another time. So we won't

[24:18] take that up now. Um,

[24:22] >> I was just going to comment that the

[24:23] weather would be great tomorrow also.

[24:27] >> Yeah.

[24:28] >> I mean, we may not get this this many

[24:31] good days.

[24:32] >> Yeah. Well, that happened a couple years

[24:35] ago. October rain 27 31 days.

[24:38] >> Yeah. So, uh,

[24:40] >> opportunity cost, right?

[24:42] >> Tara, did you have any questions on this

[24:44] discussion?

[24:46] >> Nope. Tara has no questions. All right.

[24:47] Then we're looking for a motion. Mary.

[24:50] >> Yes.

[24:51] >> Um,

[24:53] uh, has anyone mentioned, uh, the

[24:56] College Road? Because College Road also

[24:59] has an axle

[25:01] breaking, uh, pothole on it.

[25:05] >> I I think we will.

[25:08] We

[25:09] >> ble and shims are Yeah, they're

[25:11] different. Yeah. We've certainly been

[25:13] around

[25:15] >> constantly. We we paved College Road

[25:18] whether you want to believe it or not

[25:19] maybe

[25:21] eight years ago.

[25:23] Uh but the the sad face and that's what

[25:26] in new new tanks we've been doing right

[25:29] is actually zipping road up magnesium

[25:32] and grinding them back in because the

[25:33] reflective cracks keep coming and

[25:36] >> but if there is a significant issue Kim

[25:38] let's let's address that with with norm

[25:42] separately because right now it's just

[25:45] finishing up the mechanic street is the

[25:47] issue at hand here.

[25:49] >> Sure.

[25:51] But I I think everybody should feel free

[25:55] if they see something that needs to at

[25:57] least bring it to someone's attention.

[25:59] So there's nothing wrong with doing

[26:01] that. We maybe can't fix everything

[26:03] immediately, but we should know about it

[26:06] and get it on a to-do list.

[26:09] So,

[26:10] >> so I'd like to authorize uh to uh make a

[26:14] motion to authorize this change of

[26:17] expenditures to mechanic street from uh

[26:21] scary lane. Sorry, Ray.

[26:24] >> There you go. Scary lane's in good

[26:26] shape. Not that

[26:29] >> um

[26:29] >> and not as well tracked as much travel.

[26:32] >> No, probably less traffic.

[26:36] >> Okay. Thank you for that. I I'll happily

[26:38] second that. So, here we go. Uh,

[26:44] was that a yes, Tara? Yeah. Okay. Tara

[26:47] had her hand up. I wasn't sure if it was

[26:48] a question, but I'm thinking she she's

[26:51] anticipating all in favor.

[26:53] >> I

[26:54] >> Okay, good. We got that done. Um,

[26:57] anything else, Norm?

[26:59] >> Uh, no. I mean, uh, we're right now

[27:02] we're again, um,

[27:05] doing a little project for our neighbors

[27:07] over in Old Bington. We started that

[27:08] today. That that shouldn't take, I don't

[27:10] know, four or five days, uh, to

[27:13] complete. We'll be in and out.

[27:15] >> Um,

[27:17] that's it for this year.

[27:18] >> Uh, over there, we just, as you just

[27:21] said, you know, we still got time to do

[27:24] uh the bus stop.

[27:26] >> Yeah. that's scheduled in our cohorts

[27:30] have almost all been replaced. The only

[27:32] thing we have left is the one on the

[27:36] excuse me the the very first one you

[27:38] come to on Hall Street and uh had a call

[27:41] with one of the homeowners today. I

[27:42] believe we're going to have that paper

[27:44] on rightway side.

[27:45] >> Okay.

[27:45] >> I don't know if we'll be able to put

[27:47] that in this year, but the the plan is

[27:49] it'll be on spring be the first one to

[27:52] go in. Boom. And then we'll we'll do

[27:55] that road.

[27:56] >> Okay. you know, we'll have to talk

[27:57] about, you know, do we want a curved,

[28:00] you know, and all that other stuff.

[28:02] >> Well, we can do another meeting with the

[28:05] residents over there and see what they want, too.

[28:09] >> Yep, we can. Um,

[28:11] >> if that's advised.

[28:13] >> Uh, yeah. I mean, it's it's it's both.

[28:15] The the street was curved. You know, I

[28:18] would do what uh again copy what our our

[28:21] neighbor do with Bennington with that

[28:23] slip form guy. Uh so they sell 30 grand

[28:26] for him to come in and then the

[28:28] concrete's all on top of that after we

[28:30] dig it. Uh but again, once we do this

[28:33] road the way we are doing it, we're out

[28:36] of that road business

[28:38] for the rest of most of our lifet. Does

[28:42] a curb

[28:45] does it improve the longevity of a of

[28:48] the black top on a road?

[28:49] >> It does because it directs water and

[28:51] keeps a spot where the lawns end, you

[28:54] know, because everybody, you know, keeps

[28:56] creeping and creeping and creeping.

[28:58] >> Um, you know, where the lawns end. It's a place where water runs. It stays

[29:05] doesn't jump in. Especially the other

[29:07] house at the bottom. We've had problems

[29:09] with the way that road is. Oh,

[29:11] >> now hopefully we can reshape that uh a

[29:14] little bit. And again, so that has a 6

[29:18] in curve on that road. So we'll just use

[29:21] like in front of Doug's house that that

[29:23] curve is gone because we paved and paved and paved and paved,

[29:27] >> you know, and it's just all flatten. I

[29:30] mean, that thing was put in in the 30s,

[29:32] you know, it's 100 years old, but you

[29:35] know, it's all pieces. If I could save

[29:36] it, I would. But it's it's not it's not

[29:40] feasible.

[29:41] >> Okay.

[29:43] >> You know, it's going to make it better.

[29:48] » Any other questions,

[29:51] >> comments or concerns? Thank you. Do you

[29:54] want to stay and hear Marks talk about

[30:00] » Feel free to come up here if you want.

[30:02] >> Okay.

[30:04] Thank you. um

[30:07] to deal with people for several years

[30:10] now. Um feels like times. Um I was uh

[30:14] contacted about a month ago by a

[30:17] softball group. Men's I should say

[30:20] adult. I'm not sure it's co I believe

[30:22] it's a men's softball group that wants

[30:24] to use it and are willing to do the work

[30:27] to establish the infield again. um

[30:31] mostly with inind uh there may be some

[30:34] sharing. I haven't got that far yet. Uh

[30:36] and then a couple of weeks after that, I

[30:38] was contacted by a youth baseball and

[30:41] softball program that's interested in

[30:43] the same. It's also going to put some

[30:45] money into the field. Um again, no

[30:49] details yet. There's just two interested

[30:50] parties in establishing a baseball

[30:52] softball field again. Um they're doing

[30:55] some other improvements as you know as

[30:57] they go along. Uh, I'm going to meet

[31:00] with both parties just to make sure that

[31:04] one doesn't I told them both there is no

[31:06] such thing as exclusive beer um apples

[31:09] for everybody. So, anybody that wants to

[31:11] use this, they get a chance to obviously

[31:12] those that put resources to will get um

[31:16] priority in scheduling, but

[31:19] um I'm just here to let you know that

[31:20] things are still moving and to make sure

[31:23] you pursue that because obviously it

[31:25] wouldn't be um I know used to be part of

[31:28] that as sort of boneyard

[31:31] extension up in the parking. So, if this

[31:33] does go through, it won't be till next

[31:34] year. If it does go through, obviously

[31:36] we have to provide some arcing because

[31:38] there's not much beyond that. Um, but

[31:41] it's it's the early talks in the house,

[31:43] but it couldn't give you a timeline. I

[31:44] know they're both interested in using it

[31:46] by next year. Uh, I believe the softball

[31:48] is a summer summer program. So, um, I

[31:51] will be as long as you want me to

[31:54] proceed with

[31:56] making this thing go and report back to

[31:57] you whenever I have information, I can

[31:59] get back to them and start the meeting

[32:01] and see other ways they go. Do you uh

[32:04] ever talk to Brian Boomer at all?

[32:07] >> Do I ever? I mean, I can.

[32:10] >> And the only thing I put Let's see if we

[32:12] can get his building trade class to put

[32:14] roofs on those two guys.

[32:16] >> That's something I was going to talk

[32:18] these guys willing to do that too.

[32:19] >> Okay. So, we'll rip them off.

[32:21] >> I will. Yeah. And I told him, so that

[32:23] would be I I always think whenever I've

[32:24] talked to anybody about deals, I always

[32:27] give a big shout to Southwest Tech. And

[32:28] I'm happy to go. In fact, I've talked to

[32:30] Brian maybe a year and a half, two years

[32:32] ago about doing some work there. So, I

[32:34] will reach out to him again. Um, I might

[32:37] wait to see what the other guys are

[32:38] willing to do because if they're willing

[32:40] to do that, we have zero in materials if

[32:44] we take it on the material, which is

[32:47] pennies. It's not a big project. And I

[32:49] hope there is some money and I

[32:51] anticipate that we will be um putting in

[32:54] some money out of the um park and rack

[32:56] budget um but we'll see what they're

[32:58] willing to do. cost first.

[33:01] >> Yeah. Love to see if that

[33:03] >> I understand we don't have to ever deal

[33:05] with that.

[33:06] >> Yeah.

[33:06] >> And it sure seems like the whole idea

[33:09] was to make that field

[33:13] usable like it used to be.

[33:15] >> It sat there

[33:16] >> and and encouraged people to use that

[33:19] part of our village.

[33:20] >> Yep. So it sat there and it sat there

[33:22] with the baseball field in field and

[33:24] playing to go

[33:25] >> and we couldn't get

[33:27] >> um this is in no way impacts the soccer

[33:32] field.

[33:33] >> Nope. That's the thing. The reason we

[33:35] took out the reason we did what we did

[33:36] there

[33:37] >> was that home,

[33:38] >> right?

[33:39] >> If we were going to put a proper soccer

[33:40] field, football field, lacrosse field,

[33:42] any other field on there,

[33:44] >> you would have had to have gone on the

[33:47] infield to play. And I grew up in

[33:48] Vermont. I told the several soccer

[33:50] fields that

[33:51] >> Yeah.

[33:52] >> you would run across an injury field and

[33:53] it was a broken ankle.

[33:55] >> Yeah.

[33:55] >> So the reason we did what we did was to

[33:58] make it so we could have an established

[34:00] injury field and have a utility field

[34:03] and one could impact both.

[34:05] >> And I did mention to them too. So these

[34:06] sorry I got um fencing is probably

[34:09] important for them. I said it would be

[34:11] they would not be allowed permanent

[34:13] outfield fencing. Uh it would it would

[34:16] look a lot like what they do at the high

[34:17] school right now with the softball

[34:19] baseball fields. Basically, for lack of

[34:21] other words, it's like a snow melt.

[34:22] >> So, it's a temporary collapsible. The

[34:24] kids run through it. It's a safety net

[34:25] that drops down. Um and that would be on them

[34:30] >> and has there been um any queries about

[34:33] using the field for soccer?

[34:36] >> Uh well, there's a mostly about men's

[34:39] leagues. I mean, I've approached Mike

[34:41] Malloy at the high school once we get

[34:43] it. Uh, I know the YMCA is always

[34:45] looking for so I talked to them um about

[34:48] using it for their summer programming.

[34:49] It's a great spot for them because it's

[34:51] right by the lake. They can do two

[34:52] weekly deals. So, yeah.

[34:53] >> Um, there's plenty of interest in

[34:57] certain things. Um,

[35:00] in my opinion, we people get really

[35:03] nervous about things happening too fast.

[35:05] So, crawl into several of these things

[35:07] and see how it goes. But I've got an

[35:09] issue that I won't share right now

[35:10] because people too.

[35:13] But yeah, things are things are moving.

[35:15] It's just

[35:16] >> Yeah, we dumped a lot of money to that

[35:17] and my biggest fear was that.

[35:19] >> Well, thank you.

[35:19] >> I kind of steered that and then if it

[35:21] sat there

[35:22] >> empty, it was a waste of money.

[35:23] >> Yeah.

[35:24] >> I appreciate everything that you guys

[35:26] have all done.

[35:27] >> We've all got a lot of equity in it and

[35:29] hoping to pay off. And we were going to

[35:32] um talk mention while you're here and

[35:35] while Norm's here just the uh the caring

[35:38] for canopy grant that the village had

[35:40] and the trees that were put in and the

[35:42] marvelous work that Norm and Kyle and

[35:46] the crew did to get that whole bank

[35:49] ready to put the fence in. And um the

[35:52] trees look magnificent over there.

[35:55] There's 11 of them and three different

[35:58] varieties,

[36:00] maybe four. Uh, of course they're small

[36:03] now, but they'll they'll get there.

[36:05] We've got a few pictures and, uh, Ron

[36:08] Penrook and his crew just did such a

[36:10] good job. That's great.

[36:12] >> And they cleaned everything up and it

[36:14] looks it looks great. So,

[36:17] >> and yet another improvement and help

[36:20] from a number of people to get a grant

[36:23] written and accepted and done.

[36:25] Um, I was talking to Mark about I

[36:29] remember Norm saying that during that

[36:33] process of fixing the field, we saved

[36:35] the old clay from the

[36:39] um original foot that baseball field.

[36:42] >> You weren't able to.

[36:43] >> No.

[36:44] >> Oh, okay. I thought I thought that was

[36:46] something you were hoping to do.

[36:48] >> No. No. That bulls right up with

[36:51] everything else. That old play is right

[36:52] in the middle of left field.

[36:55] >> Okay.

[36:57] >> So, I thought we'd be able to reuse some

[36:59] of that, but I guess we're gonna have to

[37:00] get over.

[37:01] >> And typically, you know what? Doing

[37:03] that, you

[37:05] knowing the condition it was in, you

[37:07] probably just shortened the life of that

[37:09] actually being successful and actually

[37:10] taking they would had to probably gone

[37:12] over with so much new stuff. But I

[37:14] appreciate the thought and norm one of

[37:15] the biggest throws to you was their uh

[37:18] willing to mow. So mowing was one of the um

[37:24] things they threw out there is because

[37:26] they understand that we're not going to

[37:27] mow it to their specs. So they're both

[37:30] willing to take that on at least for the

[37:31] portion of the field they're going to

[37:32] use. All right, thanks. Which I know is

[37:35] a big

[37:36] >> big falling for you.

[37:38] >> And then I guess I would have to ask all

[37:40] these questions can be sorted out later

[37:42] on,

[37:43] >> but are there insurance liability issues

[37:47] that we have?

[37:48] >> So any any team that you had that they

[37:51] have to carry a certain amount of

[37:52] insurance?

[37:53] >> Um, and we would if they're if they're

[37:55] going to use our fields as a as a

[37:58] recognized organization, they would ask

[38:00] what their insurance they don't have to

[38:01] carry. And anybody that would do any

[38:03] kind of grounds maintenance norm gets to

[38:06] have

[38:06] >> I would not let anybody touch that field

[38:08] without

[38:08] >> okay having norm say

[38:10] >> okay

[38:11] >> don't do that because it's going to be

[38:12] on our way in the future.

[38:13] >> Okay.

[38:14] >> So yeah I'll before we do anything we'll

[38:16] do nothing up there without

[38:18] >> okay

[38:18] >> making sure Norm's part of the

[38:20] conversation. And besides that I'll I

[38:23] won't let anybody do anything before I I

[38:24] told them I have a lot of good ideas. I

[38:26] have no say in anything.

[38:28] I'll be here and tell you guys

[38:29] everything they're planning so it gets

[38:31] everybody first.

[38:32] >> Well, thank you because it is so

[38:34] exciting to see all of this rejuvenation

[38:37] happen and things for people of all

[38:39] ages.

[38:40] >> Yes. And over the whipple I think is

[38:42] going to come back too. They been in

[38:43] Bang for a couple years because of the

[38:45] work. And you did get my text about go

[38:49] ahead you can do whatever you want to do

[38:50] with it.

[38:51] >> Yeah, we're filming researching that.

[38:53] and he found a a fell that uh is big

[38:56] cotton like goes all over the country

[38:59] works for golfers and uh and his comment

[39:03] to me was fertilized. Yes, grass seeds

[39:07] where all your money is. If we can't

[39:09] water it, don't waste you guys.

[39:11] >> And uh you know, so we're still really

[39:14] looking at

[39:15] >> the best way to do it, you know, and

[39:17] that's our biggest thing. We're right

[39:19] next to a huge water source. We have no

[39:21] real water in it.

[39:23] Because that the one water feed there I

[39:25] assume is not nearly adequate to water a

[39:27] field.

[39:27] >> Yeah. Got it.

[39:29] >> It's a split very small line.

[39:32] >> Does that have to be considered being

[39:35] added?

[39:37] >> Well, I don't know. I don't I don't even

[39:40] know if it the water r so far away. You

[39:43] know, it was

[39:44] >> too bad you can't pump something right

[39:45] out of the lake.

[39:47] >> Well, it that's that's been a thought.

[39:51] uh you know it has its own issues u fish

[39:55] wildlife

[39:56] >> you know what I mean all different kinds

[39:58] of

[40:00] >> permits

[40:00] >> things you know what I mean if there was

[40:02] a a dry hydrant

[40:04] >> in the lake that you know which I guess

[40:07] you know

[40:08] >> I'm surprised there's not there's never

[40:10] been because it's a good water source

[40:13] >> uh but water water is an issue so it is

[40:16] what it is and u you know that field is

[40:18] way better than it ever was And in the

[40:20] process, it can't hurt to bring it up

[40:23] when we're talking these fols too and

[40:24] knows what they're willing and

[40:29] » you know it would also um

[40:33] you know it would be a big demand

[40:36] to try to water something like that

[40:38] would be a huge demand and you know the

[40:41] water board would 100% have to be

[40:46] » fully on board but it would be like late

[40:50] night,

[40:50] >> you know, we had to have an automatic

[40:52] system

[40:53] >> or you have trucks that come and spray

[40:55] and I don't know how that works.

[40:58] >> Yeah, that's really hard because it's so

[41:01] big. It's seven acres. I mean, you think

[41:03] about that that field that that's what

[41:05] it'll load up to

[41:07] >> and uh you know, trying to spray it with a fire truck or something like

[41:11] that. It's just you know, it's such a

[41:13] deal. And

[41:14] >> yeah,

[41:14] >> um you know, we had to put the fence

[41:16] there to keep people out of it.

[41:17] Hopefully I'll be able to get out this

[41:19] winter and get all the water out of

[41:20] there, right? So, we don't want that

[41:22] water. Uh

[41:25] you know, but uh but water is really

[41:29] bad. It's too bad

[41:32] the lake, but I think uh you know that

[41:35] that's a whole big ri.

[41:39] >> Okay.

[41:40] >> And last, just in mentioning seven

[41:42] acres, this will be it. Um, do we have a

[41:44] site map of that with any kind of other

[41:47] than like the tax map? We'd have to get

[41:49] one from the engineer.

[41:51] >> Okay. Can I um

[41:53] text you tomorrow and I can swing by the

[41:55] garage?

[41:56] >> Go to MSK. Go right through your

[41:59] pull up.

[42:00] >> Go where?

[42:01] >> NSK.

[42:01] >> Oh, okay. Perfect. Awesome. Thank you.

[42:04] And that post with the pin on is made to

[42:08] set a GPS on and then you take a walk

[42:10] right off with their stick and boop boop

[42:12] and set your wheels.

[42:13] >> Awesome. That's why that post would

[42:15] never cut down.

[42:16] >> Perfect. Well,

[42:19] >> thank you.

[42:20] Appreciate it. I'll be back.

[42:22] >> Okay.

[42:24] >> Thanks, March.

[42:25] >> Okay.

[42:26] Okay. Um

[42:29] >> yes. Yeah. Okay. We are gonna move uh

[42:33] just a minute.

[42:35] >> We're gonna go right to fire department

[42:37] because Doug needs a a minute of time.

[42:39] So, we're going to do this. All I wanted

[42:41] to do here and everybody has this. Um as

[42:45] part of the weatherization, I need to

[42:48] find my number. as part of the

[42:50] weatherization that uh grant that we

[42:52] have. It's a lot of thermal envelope

[42:57] work that's done on this building, the

[42:59] garage and also the fire station. The

[43:03] windows at the fire station on that

[43:04] second floor were not part of this of

[43:07] the the grant recommendations,

[43:09] but Bill Christian, who is our MERP,

[43:15] Municipal Energy Resilience Program, uh

[43:18] consultant on this, really uh uh

[43:21] encouraged

[43:23] these insulating window inserts to be

[43:26] put on those big windows there. So he

[43:29] measured for the window dressers

[43:31] program, which is a volunteer community

[43:35] build

[43:37] program that builds these insulating

[43:39] window inserts. He measured everything.

[43:43] The job comes to $1,68.76.

[43:49] I'm quite sure that is on the warrant

[43:52] that Doug will talk about. Um but um

[43:56] Chief Meyers, yes, Chief Meyers approved

[44:00] the that the fire volunteers and those

[44:05] who use that

[44:06] >> willing to agree to it. Okay.

[44:07] >> Yes, they did agree to it. Um and that's

[44:10] that. So,

[44:13] I wanted specifically to have the

[44:17] trustees

[44:19] approve this expense because it is not

[44:22] part of the grant and it will have to

[44:23] come out of the building reserve, which

[44:26] we do have a significant building

[44:28] reserve to cover 16 Yeah. to cover

[44:30] $1,600.

[44:32] >> You want cover, you want a specific

[44:34] resolution as opposed to just the

[44:36] warrant because it is included. it is

[44:38] included in the warrant, but I thought

[44:39] this is a a different kind of a program.

[44:42] Um, and and I just wanted thought that

[44:46] in full discussion for the public, we

[44:50] should uh they should know what we're

[44:52] doing is and and it is not covered under

[44:56] the grant,

[44:57] >> right? Are the these are the big picture

[44:59] windows that face the parking lot and

[45:01] the

[45:02] >> all the ones on the top? Yes. Yes. Yes.

[45:06] Bill Bill measured

[45:09] >> I can't even tell you how many he's got

[45:11] here.

[45:12] >> There's a lot

[45:13] >> there's a whole bunch of them and then

[45:15] they have uh there's some smaller ones

[45:18] but he only did the fixed windows. There

[45:21] are some that open up but he's not doing

[45:24] those because you don't you know even in

[45:26] the winter time you might need to vent

[45:28] something.

[45:29] >> So that's what I'm looking

[45:31] >> 25.

[45:32] >> Okay. I'm looking for an approval.

[45:36] >> I'll make a motion that we approve the

[45:40] window dressers

[45:43] uh proposal for

[45:46] outfitting the fire department building

[45:50] with

[45:52] what do you call them?

[45:53] >> Insulating insert window inserts.

[45:55] >> Thank you.

[45:56] >> I'll second $168.76.

[46:02] » You got it. Second.

[46:04] >> Second. No, I beat you.

[46:06] >> Ah, did

[46:07] >> Okay.

[46:08] >> All right. Thanks, Tara. All in favor

[46:10] then?

[46:12] >> I Okay, Lori, that's unanimous. We move

[46:16] on from that. Um, since uh Doug is still

[46:19] out talking, let's move DRB, Development

[46:23] Review Board. um a meeting scheduled on

[46:28] Wednesday

[46:30] um September 23rd that will be posted

[46:34] and warmed and interested people can see

[46:37] what that is about. It has to do with

[46:39] the um AARP bus station grant that Norm

[46:45] alluded to and I will talk about that

[46:47] later on in the day. So we are done with

[46:50] that. Okay, now we are back uh and

[46:53] actually kind of on time here. Um, back

[46:57] to Doug.

[46:58] >> All right. Thank you. Um, I'm going to

[47:01] do the warrants first. Um, and then I'll

[47:04] do my report after.

[47:06] >> Um, so two warrants. Um, first is the

[47:10] payroll warrant. Um, so for the month of

[47:13] August, again, just as a reminder since

[47:15] it's still pending new, uh, we have the

[47:18] breakdown of the taxes, the retirement,

[47:21] uh, and the payroll fees and then a lump

[47:23] sum for total payroll dollars. So, the

[47:26] total payroll warrant for the month of

[47:28] August is 16,45425.

[47:33] » So move

[47:35] second.

[47:38] » No questions, Tara. Nope. All in favor?

[47:42] >> I

[47:43] >> Okay, that's another one. Unanimous,

[47:45] Lori.

[47:46] >> Okay,

[47:49] then I have the

[47:52] uh late August and September warrant.

[47:55] Um, so the vast majority of things on

[47:59] here are going to be general or we've

[48:02] talked about um the the couple of larger

[48:05] items. The KS State Bank, that is the

[48:08] annual um payment for the fire truck. Um

[48:12] and again for still for several more

[48:14] years of that 28,93021,

[48:18] we have a $10,000 amount that comes out

[48:20] of a reserve fund. Um, so that will

[48:23] transfer either this month or next

[48:25] month. So the true amount that is

[48:28] budgeted um and that is paid out is the

[48:31] 18,000 of that because we had uh

[48:33] proceeds from the sale of the truck of

[48:36] the older truck. Um the next largest

[48:38] item, the VLCT

[48:40] that is quarterly for insurance. Um,

[48:45] and a lot of the other ones, the MSK,

[48:49] uh, contact, those have to do with, um,

[48:52] projects that Norm just spoke about. So,

[48:55] Culvert work, Paul Street work, uh,

[48:58] things like that. Um, I did send out the

[49:02] breakdown for the detail. Um, so if

[49:06] there's no other questions, then the

[49:07] total on this is, is the window dresser

[49:11] staying on?

[49:11] >> Yes.

[49:12] >> Okay. So 71,79933.

[49:18] » All right, I'll move it.

[49:21] Second.

[49:23] >> All in favor?

[49:26] >> Okay, Lauren, we got that unanimous to

[49:29] >> Okay.

[49:30] >> Um, so treasurer's report. Um, I know

[49:34] it's going to seem like we're kind of

[49:35] beating the dead horse, but I have um

[49:38] the tax anticipation note is going to be

[49:41] here. Um, so this is the final portion

[49:46] of that. Um, the way that the bank um

[49:49] requires it to be done is the final

[49:52] documents have to be signed at the

[49:54] meeting um under open meeting law. So

[49:58] all the numbers figures are the same as

[50:00] last month and the month before that we

[50:02] discussed. So first thing we need to

[50:04] have is a motion um for the board, the

[50:08] treasurer and the clerk to sign the

[50:10] documents provided by community bank for

[50:13] the tax anticipation note line of credit

[50:16] in the amount of $181,939.

[50:20] » I'll make it.

[50:22] >> I'll second that.

[50:25] No questions. All in favor?

[50:28] >> I

[50:30] >> Okay, so I will circulate these

[50:32] documents. Uh, Tara, you are excused

[50:35] from signing because we only need a

[50:37] majority of wet signatures. So, with

[50:39] four of the trustees here in person, we

[50:42] are fined. The treasurer and the clerk

[50:45] um will also sign. So, those I will

[50:47] circulate um to have those sign. I'm

[50:50] going to just go through everything.

[50:52] >> Um, any questions about that? We've kind

[50:55] of talked about it a couple of months

[50:56] now, so this is just kind of the the end

[50:59] of it. Um,

[51:01] so the next item, uh, tax billing. Um,

[51:05] the tax bill process has begun actually

[51:08] in earnest this afternoon. Um, I had a

[51:10] call with our, um, company that we use

[51:13] that provides the the online services.

[51:17] Um, and had that call for about an hour

[51:19] and a half before I came here. Um, I

[51:22] have a couple of next steps, but my goal

[51:24] is to have all tax bills in the mail by

[51:27] Friday. Uh, tax due date will be

[51:30] November 10th, the same as Bennington

[51:32] and Shaffsberry. Um, we all kind of make

[51:35] sure that our dates line up for the most

[51:37] part. Um, Bennington, North Bennington

[51:39] are always identical. Once in a while,

[51:40] Shaffbury changes theirs if it's uh a

[51:43] certain day or if it falls on holiday.

[51:45] It doesn't always match up. But I

[51:47] believe this year because the 10th of

[51:49] November is not a holiday or a weekend.

[51:51] So it's an easy day. Um so those will

[51:54] come out. I will begin to put notices on

[51:56] the website uh regarding Homestead. So

[51:59] anybody who may be listening um online

[52:02] now or views this uh you have until

[52:06] October 10th to update, modify, file

[52:10] your homestead. Um that has to be done

[52:12] with the state of Vermont. I cannot do

[52:14] that for you, nor can anybody within the

[52:17] village of North Bennington, the town of

[52:18] Bennington, or the town of Shaspberry.

[52:20] Um, that is normally done when you file

[52:22] your income taxes. Um, but if you don't

[52:25] file income taxes for a variety of

[52:27] reasons, there is a form that can be

[52:29] filled out for the homestead exemption.

[52:31] Um, and if you are on an extension, you

[52:34] still would want to get that done. Um,

[52:37] the sooner the better because right now

[52:38] is what's called the penalty phase. um

[52:41] you can still file as a homestead, but

[52:44] uh because it's considered a late file,

[52:45] there is a percentage that they deduct

[52:48] from that. Um and the closer that it

[52:50] gets to October 15th, the higher that gets. Um again, that's a state

[52:54] process. We have nothing to do with

[52:56] that. Um so I will put those

[52:58] instructions on the website uh within

[53:00] the next week or so. Um and it'll just

[53:02] be the website and the phone number

[53:04] again because we don't do anything here.

[53:06] >> Um in-person hours, everybody always

[53:09] asks about that. I usually start the

[53:11] week of Columbus that gives about a

[53:13] month. So I'll have an evening and

[53:16] Saturday mornings that I will be here

[53:18] and I will also be here on uh tax day

[53:20] itself for a few hours in the afternoon.

[53:22] So once I figure out all the days and

[53:25] times I will put that usually it's the

[53:27] same. So usually it's uh it'll probably

[53:30] be Thursday evening and Saturday

[53:31] mornings other than tax day. Um, all of

[53:34] that will go onto the website and I will

[53:36] post those hours in the banner on the

[53:40] depot door, the library, and the post

[53:43] office. They always put those in all the

[53:45] same spots. Um, anybody have any

[53:48] questions about tax billing?

[53:53] Um, okay. Only other couple of notes

[53:55] that I have. Um, once I get tax billing

[53:57] situated, I will catch up on a couple

[53:59] other reports. So, by the end of the

[54:01] month, I'll send out the new um budget

[54:04] versus actual. I have to put the budget

[54:06] into QuickBooks. So, that will be my

[54:08] next step after tax billing is done. So,

[54:10] I'll get that out. So, you'll have from

[54:12] July 1st to current. And same thing with

[54:14] the cash accounts. I'll get the last

[54:16] couple of accounts reconciled that I

[54:18] haven't finished up on. Um and I'll

[54:20] update that to to you guys before the

[54:22] end of the month. Um I think that's all

[54:26] I have unless there's any other

[54:28] questions. Something just popped into my

[54:30] head. And do we, you know, people who ha

[54:34] who do road work and have to provide the

[54:38] bond for uh for digging in the right of

[54:42] way? Do we have anybody? Wasn't there

[54:45] somebody that we had to pay back this

[54:46] year?

[54:47] >> No, I believe it's next year.

[54:48] >> It's next year. Okay. I thought there

[54:50] was somebody.

[54:51] >> No, somebody had inquired about it, but

[54:52] Norm confirmed that it hadn't been a

[54:54] year. It was project was was

[54:57] >> it wasn't just done but it's not

[54:59] >> because that's that is my understanding

[55:01] is that's a calendar year.

[55:04] Yes.

[55:05] >> And I do not believe that the last one

[55:08] has has been a

[55:08] >> calendar into my mind that at some point

[55:11] there was a email about it and I

[55:13] couldn't

[55:13] >> correct. Yeah. And I think Norm had

[55:15] confirmed that it was not had not been a

[55:17] year.

[55:17] >> No, you're all correct. Okay.

[55:19] >> Okay.

[55:20] >> This is a bond for a person working on

[55:22] the road. So when when somebody digs

[55:25] into the roadway for certain things,

[55:27] they have to provide a a bond to the

[55:30] village in case the work is done shoddy

[55:32] or they miss something, right?

[55:34] >> If Norm has to go and fix it. So the way

[55:37] that the contract or the form is written

[55:39] is the village holds the money for one

[55:41] year from the date of completion of the

[55:44] project.

[55:44] >> Again, so Norm can make sure that

[55:46] something doesn't happen, the pavement

[55:48] doesn't collapse or, you know, any of

[55:50] those types of things. So that's what

[55:52] that's for.

[55:52] >> We would have money to return perhaps.

[55:54] >> Correct. It just goes into the It goes

[55:56] into the village's account and then once

[55:58] I'm notified that the time has lapsed,

[56:00] then we cut a check to that homeowner um

[56:03] and we return the funds.

[56:04] >> I'm sure they'll let you know.

[56:06] >> Right. And I think the question was just

[56:09] because the project was done, but the

[56:11] time hadn't elapsed

[56:13] >> um was what it was. I believe norm may

[56:15] be able to clarify if if it but that's

[56:18] my

[56:19] >> just one of those things that personally

[56:21] I think it's nice to be ahead of and not

[56:23] wait for somebody to say hey you missed

[56:24] the deadline

[56:26] >> you know it's my money so all right

[56:29] thank you any other questions for Doug

[56:33] >> no

[56:36] >> all right sounds excellent

[56:39] thank you um

[56:42] where are we now We did that. We did that. Planning Commission.

[56:48] Okay. So, couple of things that we want

[56:50] to look at here. First and foremost is

[56:54] um the administrative policy for

[56:57] short-term rentals and the annual fee

[56:59] that we talked about. Ken, do you want

[57:02] to take over from here and just make do

[57:06] this discussion or not?

[57:08] >> No, we we've left it to the trustees at

[57:11] this point. Um Okay. So, it's

[57:14] the planning commission has done all the

[57:15] work that

[57:17] uh we think is a precursor to their

[57:20] decision.

[57:21] >> Okay. All I wanted that's that's fine.

[57:24] So trustees I will go to my thing here. Give me a minute. I need to find

[57:30] my my number. Oh, I'm looking for four.

[57:33] Number four. Here we go.

[57:36] Okay. So, this has been around for a

[57:40] while. I'm hoping that you all have had

[57:42] plenty of time to read this. Um because

[57:45] again, if we have an ordinance, it's

[57:48] only a good idea unless you have some

[57:51] way to follow up and make sure that

[57:53] people are doing what they're supposed

[57:55] to be doing.

[57:56] >> Um in this ordinance, again, we are

[58:00] giving work to the to the village clerk

[58:03] as the lead person to administer all of

[58:05] this. the clerk can ask for assistance

[58:08] from the board in which case the

[58:11] trustees we will appoint one of our

[58:13] members to help the clerk. So first and

[58:16] foremost I would want to know what our

[58:19] clerk Lori has felt about this um this

[58:23] policy and procedure and was this

[58:26] something that you would request help

[58:28] for.

[58:31] » I think it's fine. I don't foresee it being so busy that I

[58:37] would need to request help, but if I do,

[58:40] I will um ask one of you.

[58:43] >> Okay. I just didn't think it would be

[58:46] right to assign work without asking your

[58:48] opinion.

[58:50] >> Does that mean that Lori would be

[58:51] receiving the annual fees? It means that

[58:54] Lori would be the one to take the form,

[58:58] the short-term rental registration form.

[59:02] >> Yes.

[59:03] >> Do the first of all, do the research.

[59:06] Look on the VBO, the Airbnb, whatever

[59:09] those sites are. Find out who is

[59:11] advertising things in North Bennington.

[59:14] send the registration form um and

[59:17] perhaps a copy of the policy or whatever

[59:20] we need um to uh to that individual and

[59:26] then request the fee which we have to

[59:28] vote on um and the the registration form

[59:32] back. Keep that in a file. Of course,

[59:35] any uh um income goes any checks go to

[59:40] Doug and Doug does the accounting for

[59:43] that. Um, but yes, Lori would Lori would

[59:46] have to do this and it says that we do

[59:49] this by July 1st of every year.

[59:55] » Okay. And the fee that was proposed was

[59:57] $100.

[59:58] >> Yes.

[1:00:00] >> And I just saw a mistake here. Under the

[1:00:03] what? Who? What? The third one down. It

[1:00:07] says an annual fee. It should say an

[1:00:10] annual fee. I missed a capital A. So,

[1:00:14] we'll get that in there.

[1:00:17] >> Well, okay. So, do we are we voting on

[1:00:20] this

[1:00:21] >> as a a final vote?

[1:00:23] >> We need to have a motion and a vote on

[1:00:25] the fee and then the procedure.

[1:00:28] >> Well,

[1:00:29] >> or both. I'll move that we adopt the

[1:00:33] administrative plan policy for the

[1:00:35] short-term rentals including the annual

[1:00:38] fee as stated $100

[1:00:42] accepting the small correction to be

[1:00:45] >> okay.

[1:00:47] >> Thank you.

[1:00:48] >> I'll second that.

[1:00:49] >> Seconded that. Any questions from you,

[1:00:52] Tara?

[1:00:54] >> Nope. Uh all in favor?

[1:00:58] Hi. All right. Um, since I did have one

[1:01:01] change to this, I will come around and

[1:01:03] find all of you for signatures and this

[1:01:06] will be done initiated initiated in

[1:01:09] September

[1:01:11] of 2026. Okay. Thank you. We'll do that.

[1:01:15] Um, the other thing unless unless Kim

[1:01:19] you were going to mention that I was

[1:01:21] going to just uh since most tr since I

[1:01:25] believe I sent this to all trustees the

[1:01:28] there is a uh basically a zoom a

[1:01:31] Microsoft teams meeting on October 15

[1:01:36] from 1 to 2 and this is regarding um dam

[1:01:41] safety and uh it's a subgrant grantee

[1:01:45] meeting. The parent dan was one of two

[1:01:50] that were selected by the state for

[1:01:52] study for um um safety issues.

[1:01:59] Kim, did I get that right? Is there

[1:02:00] anything I'm missing? No, that's right.

[1:02:04] and the the we're one of two villages

[1:02:08] that um are getting that grant and we

[1:02:12] will find out what our requirements are

[1:02:15] to receive that grant on October 15th.

[1:02:20] >> Yeah. Could you repeat the time since

[1:02:23] that's on the board?

[1:02:24] >> Yes, it's on the email, but it is uh but

[1:02:27] you'll want to find your email because

[1:02:28] you'll need that for the team's meeting

[1:02:30] link.

[1:02:30] >> I think I did. But it is on um on

[1:02:33] October 15th at 1:00

[1:02:37] >> and it's just by Zoom.

[1:02:39] >> It is by Yes. by teams. So when you load

[1:02:42] that up, you'll get

[1:02:43] >> virtually the same thing just like

[1:02:45] version.

[1:02:46] >> Yes. But you'll you'll be able to get into that. So

[1:02:50] >> Okay.

[1:02:51] >> I think that is good news. We just had

[1:02:54] we had you know the whole discussion

[1:02:56] about the safety of the

[1:02:57] >> of the of the dam and um you know hazard timing things like that. So there

[1:03:04] we are.

[1:03:05] >> Kim, is there anything else you would

[1:03:07] like to comment on?

[1:03:10] Well, I I'll mention that one of our uh

[1:03:13] citizens uh Rob Wilmington uh had a

[1:03:16] proposal for the study of the uh how to

[1:03:22] draw down the reservoir level if for

[1:03:26] knowledge of an extreme precipitation

[1:03:28] event was available.

[1:03:31] Um and it was his uh initiative in

[1:03:37] copying

[1:03:39] uh several politicians that got us on

[1:03:42] the map here for this particular

[1:03:45] uh grant. So we owe him a thanks.

[1:03:49] >> Yes, thank you for that acknowledgement.

[1:03:51] >> Yeah, think we can all thank Rome for

[1:03:53] that. But on the other hand, we can

[1:03:56] thank Scott here who was bringing this

[1:04:00] uh to the attention and

[1:04:05] also

[1:04:07] uh pushing for people to come down and

[1:04:11] look at

[1:04:12] >> look at.

[1:04:13] >> Yeah. And let me just say I have been um

[1:04:18] doing tours for so so far Rob Wilmington

[1:04:23] and I have walked around up at the dam.

[1:04:26] >> Um

[1:04:28] Will Greer and I spent an hour and a

[1:04:31] half going around. he was quite

[1:04:34] interested and then Tim Corkran came

[1:04:38] over

[1:04:40] and I believe he's the chair of the um

[1:04:44] House Transportation Committee. Yes. And

[1:04:47] Dan belongs to the transportation

[1:04:49] department. So, he'd be a good person

[1:04:53] >> to I thought he would be a good person

[1:04:55] to speak with. And then I went to an

[1:04:58] event um last Saturday for the uh

[1:05:01] someone who's running for governor, the

[1:05:04] Democratic nominee,

[1:05:06] and I brought it up when there was it

[1:05:08] was a meet and greet and I had a few

[1:05:10] moments where I could uh bring it up.

[1:05:13] So, actually, um

[1:05:16] uh I haven't been doing nothing. I've

[1:05:19] been trying to get the word out that um

[1:05:24] uh that we need to get some state

[1:05:28] involvement here.

[1:05:30] Um the other thing the the other person

[1:05:32] that might that we should acknowledge

[1:05:36] would be or the other group would be um

[1:05:40] the

[1:05:42] uh who does all the maps

[1:05:44] >> BCRC

[1:05:45] >> BPRC

[1:05:47] >> um because they're working on this is

[1:05:50] Darra Zinc who's working on a grant

[1:05:55] to have the four private exams

[1:06:01] evaluated for a brownfield

[1:06:04] study

[1:06:05] and

[1:06:07] yeah and um when I gave that pre

[1:06:11] presentation in the spring um I'm lo I'm

[1:06:15] slipping it's slipping my mind the chair

[1:06:17] of uh

[1:06:20] um BCRC

[1:06:23] >> uh uh Jim

[1:06:24] >> Coleman yeah uh anyway Jim

[1:06:28] He's trying to add Bill. Yeah, Bill is

[1:06:32] sorry, Bill.

[1:06:33] >> I'm thinking of Jim Henderson.

[1:06:35] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[1:06:36] >> Uh anyway, he's going to try to add

[1:06:39] >> the Lake Parent Dam onto the other four

[1:06:42] dam so that all five dams will be

[1:06:45] included in the same study. So, I don't

[1:06:47] know if that was involved here, but it's

[1:06:50] all going our way. It seems like

[1:06:52] >> at least

[1:06:53] >> I mean, nothing's been done.

[1:06:55] >> Nothing has been writing letters.

[1:06:56] >> Yes.

[1:06:57] >> Yeah. So I didn't I didn't mouth when I

[1:07:00] mentioned people because he's been

[1:07:02] instrumental as well.

[1:07:03] >> But I guess perseverance with all

[1:07:06] involved and many thanks to a whole a

[1:07:09] whole village of people.

[1:07:11] >> That's right. We are it's a big team

[1:07:13] project.

[1:07:14] >> Yes. And one more uh Seth uh Bongarts

[1:07:18] also spoke up for us. Um so that's one more to acknowledge

[1:07:25] in more uh planning commission um

[1:07:29] discussion. Uh we're aware of a

[1:07:32] hazardous building complaint um that has

[1:07:36] gone to the trustees. Um

[1:07:39] we were involved initially in drafting a

[1:07:45] ordinance about that and were told uh

[1:07:48] that by our legal count that remains an

[1:07:52] issue solely for the trustees to pursue.

[1:07:55] So uh while we're following it with

[1:07:58] interest um the planning commission's

[1:08:00] really not involved in that particular

[1:08:02] complaint

[1:08:04] >> and that is on our agenda under under

[1:08:06] new business. Okay. And then um lastly

[1:08:11] uh we have been um we've the planning

[1:08:14] commission has formed a subcommittee

[1:08:18] uh to discuss project costs

[1:08:21] uh as um

[1:08:25] they relate to zoning fees. That's how

[1:08:29] we're currently uh charging zoning fees

[1:08:32] by asking the

[1:08:35] uh applicants to identify

[1:08:39] uh the project cost, but we've never

[1:08:41] defined what should be included in the

[1:08:44] project cost. And so we have uh drafted

[1:08:49] a preliminary description of that and

[1:08:52] also tried to uh look for fairer uh

[1:08:59] zoning fee schedule

[1:09:02] and we'll be discussing that and

[1:09:04] eventually bringing that to the trustees

[1:09:09] and that's really um what I have for the

[1:09:12] planning commission at this point

[1:09:14] >> and that Planning Commission meeting is

[1:09:17] next week

[1:09:20] uh

[1:09:22] >> 16th.

[1:09:23] >> The 16th. Yes.

[1:09:31] » Kim, I had a quick question. Have you

[1:09:34] seen any uh report on this year's dam

[1:09:38] inspection?

[1:09:40] >> No. The inspection I believe for a high

[1:09:42] hazard dam is every two years. Right.

[1:09:44] And they did it in 24, which I had a

[1:09:48] copy of, and 26. They did it again, but

[1:09:53] I don't know that they've issued a

[1:09:54] report yet. So, I just wondered if

[1:09:56] you've seen

[1:09:57] >> I I have not seen one. No.

[1:09:59] >> Okay. Thank you.

[1:10:01] >> Maybe that's something that a question

[1:10:02] that can be asked next week.

[1:10:06] I have uh in my correspondence with Rob

[1:10:09] Wilmington, I have copied um Ben Green

[1:10:13] who's the head of that program.

[1:10:15] >> Oh, good. Great.

[1:10:19] » Okay. Any other questions for the

[1:10:22] planning commission or regarding the

[1:10:24] planning commission?

[1:10:27] >> No. Okay.

[1:10:30] Um under new business uh first thing I

[1:10:33] wanted to just alert I don't again don't

[1:10:36] have a lot of information on this but um

[1:10:40] thanks to Will Greer he alerted me to

[1:10:44] the fact that there is a

[1:10:48] national another national class action

[1:10:51] lawsuit going on against a number of uh

[1:10:55] chemical companies for PAS

[1:10:58] contamination. issues. Uh the deadline

[1:11:01] to just throw your name into the hat was

[1:11:05] um July 31st and he let he found out

[1:11:10] about this on July 30th and let me know

[1:11:14] the next day. And so with 12 hours to

[1:11:17] spare, we he helped me find the the

[1:11:20] forms. and we are uh aligned with a a

[1:11:24] law firm called Grossman and Kelly, one

[1:11:26] of three

[1:11:29] um firms dealing with this.

[1:11:33] The first uh part of this is um for

[1:11:37] again for PAS remediation in in

[1:11:41] municipal

[1:11:43] for municipal expenses. This is not

[1:11:45] individuals that had a well on their

[1:11:48] property and are looking for something

[1:11:50] like that. Um, I am still awaiting more

[1:11:54] firm information. I did get an email

[1:11:58] that um there are going to be some

[1:12:03] determinations

[1:12:05] made by the end of the year, if not

[1:12:08] sooner, um, for who what the

[1:12:12] dispersements will be. Um, I don't know

[1:12:16] the criteria for those dispersements.

[1:12:20] I'm waiting to get more information on

[1:12:22] that. For instance, I don't know if it's

[1:12:25] something based on an actual project

[1:12:28] that is submitted or is it based on some

[1:12:31] metric like population or something like

[1:12:35] that. So, we're trying to get all of

[1:12:37] those answers.

[1:12:38] The second part of this

[1:12:41] will be for PAS contaminated firefighter

[1:12:45] turnout gear. So this may be something

[1:12:48] that down the line we can help our

[1:12:51] volunteer fire department with um any

[1:12:54] gear upgrades or replacements that they

[1:12:57] may need. When we find out more about

[1:13:01] what this class action suit entails,

[1:13:04] what information the municipality has to

[1:13:08] provide to whom, when, where, why, all

[1:13:11] of that, um, we will call a special

[1:13:14] meeting and make sure that especially

[1:13:17] people who may have um, wells that seem

[1:13:22] still may be suspect or have that system

[1:13:25] in that has to filter out the the in the PAS um then we should invite the

[1:13:32] public to that meeting and let people

[1:13:34] know that there may yet be some help on

[1:13:38] the horizon. Um I am don't want to

[1:13:42] misspeak but I believe if memory is

[1:13:44] correct that this is some $30 billion

[1:13:48] dollar with a B uh involved in this

[1:13:50] nationally. So, uh, the this Grossman

[1:13:54] and Kelly company is dealing with a lot

[1:13:56] of smaller

[1:13:59] municipalities and so we have no

[1:14:02] obligation. We owe nothing if the

[1:14:05] village doesn't receive a dime. Um,

[1:14:08] there is a share of any settlement that

[1:14:11] does go to attorneys. It was fairly

[1:14:14] high, but frankly to my mind, some piece

[1:14:17] of the loaf is better than none of it.

[1:14:20] Um,

[1:14:22] and when can a small village sometimes

[1:14:25] do projects without without other

[1:14:28] assistance?

[1:14:30] >> So that's

[1:14:31] >> Can I ask a quick just a quick question?

[1:14:34] >> Is PF

[1:14:37] the same thing as PFOA

[1:14:39] that we dealt with like two or three?

[1:14:42] >> I am not a chemist. So somebody should say but there is an

[1:14:47] umbrella. My understanding is their

[1:14:49] umbrella of the peak fast and the PFOA

[1:14:52] is one of those under that

[1:14:54] >> right

[1:14:55] >> that umbrella. Thank you.

[1:14:57] >> So we um

[1:14:59] we went to a lot of trouble to get

[1:15:02] people off their residential drinking

[1:15:05] water wells and hook them up.

[1:15:09] >> Um but the but this could be an

[1:15:11] additional threat

[1:15:12] >> there

[1:15:13] >> beyond that. But there are people who

[1:15:15] would like to be hooked up that are not.

[1:15:17] >> Oh, no. We didn't get everybody.

[1:15:19] >> Oh, okay. Oh, I thought

[1:15:22] >> And then they changed the rules about

[1:15:25] um how do I say this level of

[1:15:30] >> contaminant

[1:15:31] >> contaminated

[1:15:35] some people as well. But

[1:15:37] >> yeah, they water department is aware of

[1:15:40] this. I did um let them know that the

[1:15:43] village has applied for this and this is

[1:15:45] even though it is a water system, it is

[1:15:47] this is a village project that we

[1:15:50] desperately would need um the expertise

[1:15:53] of the of the water department to help

[1:15:55] us do. Um but

[1:15:58] >> thank you.

[1:15:59] >> Thanks to Will Greer, the village of

[1:16:01] North Bennington is part of this.

[1:16:04] >> Wow. Um,

[1:16:05] >> so yeah,

[1:16:07] >> I just looked up PFAS and I'll just

[1:16:10] >> tell tell you what that stands for.

[1:16:12] >> Per and poly floral alcohol substances.

[1:16:17] >> Okay.

[1:16:20] » So it's much more inclusive than PFOS.

[1:16:23] >> But Mary is right. The PAS is the

[1:16:25] broader umbrella. The PFOA is the

[1:16:28] chemical.

[1:16:28] >> That was my point.

[1:16:30] >> Okay.

[1:16:30] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[1:16:32] It's it's the acid that we dealt with in

[1:16:34] uh the ChemFab area.

[1:16:39] >> Okay. So, the next item is um as was

[1:16:43] alluded to uh by Kim, we had a citizen

[1:16:47] complaint regarding um Seven Main

[1:16:50] Street.

[1:16:52] Um, I had sent out to everyone a draft of um

[1:17:01] of an informal notice. Um, it seems to

[1:17:05] me that the

[1:17:08] most of the issue that was complained

[1:17:10] about has been corrected. There is no

[1:17:13] vegetation in front of the building

[1:17:15] anymore. So, I'm not sure there is any

[1:17:19] uh any followup that we can do on this.

[1:17:23] Um, but I think the bigger issue, as Kim

[1:17:27] alluded to, is that when there are

[1:17:31] unsafe or hazardous conditions with a

[1:17:34] building, it is the trustes

[1:17:36] responsibility to do something. We don't

[1:17:40] have a separate ordinance, nor do we

[1:17:42] need a separate ordinance. it is already

[1:17:46] part of statute that

[1:17:49] you know municipal governance can take

[1:17:51] care of these things. So we we Chris

[1:17:56] helped and we can have um you know just

[1:18:01] some some templates of these informal

[1:18:05] notices that we can can send to people

[1:18:08] when there is a citizen complaint and

[1:18:11] probably should do so and then should

[1:18:14] have at least our own agreement that um

[1:18:19] that it needs to be done and that it is

[1:18:21] our our respons responsibility.

[1:18:23] Um, so,

[1:18:25] >> so if I might ask Chris the question,

[1:18:28] did you actually go into the building or

[1:18:31] you walked around? Well, it's hard to

[1:18:33] walk around, but uh,

[1:18:38] so I I thought there was a complaint

[1:18:40] about intrusions into the building or

[1:18:43] openings in the building and

[1:18:46] maybe rats.

[1:18:48] >> Right. the complaints that came in have

[1:18:51] all been put into this letter.

[1:18:54] So

[1:18:56] the pest and road structure

[1:18:59] instability was what was complaint was

[1:19:02] in the complaint.

[1:19:05] Yeah,

[1:19:05] >> it was the vegetation and that, you

[1:19:08] know, the vegetation growing, the

[1:19:09] unsightly vegetation growing in front of

[1:19:11] the building and uh um you know, I don't

[1:19:16] know if anyone interviewed the rats, but

[1:19:18] apparently there are there are rats or

[1:19:22] other rodents

[1:19:24] >> on there. I I don't know. and and nor was there a complaint about um

[1:19:31] about the the safety of the structure

[1:19:34] itself.

[1:19:35] So I don't know

[1:19:38] whether we have anything to

[1:19:41] follow up on in terms of in terms of of

[1:19:45] that complaint. The vegetation is not

[1:19:48] there.

[1:19:51] » Can I just ask a question? So you've got

[1:19:54] a complaint and you sent this letter.

[1:19:57] >> No, did not send a letter.

[1:19:59] >> So how did you contact the owner?

[1:20:01] >> No.

[1:20:02] >> Okay.

[1:20:03] >> But when I did a complaint like this,

[1:20:06] like for a building on seven main street

[1:20:08] or bar it

[1:20:11] >> I just basically sent it on to the

[1:20:13] trustees.

[1:20:14] >> Okay.

[1:20:14] >> But and

[1:20:18] devising a method to deal with the

[1:20:20] complaint was suggested that Maybe

[1:20:23] giving formal letter to the property

[1:20:25] owner

[1:20:25] >> would be a starting point to say, "Hey,

[1:20:29] we've had neighbors complaining about

[1:20:31] the building

[1:20:32] >> and it's our trustees responsibility to

[1:20:36] handle that." And that's kind of a

[1:20:40] starting point with property owner to

[1:20:42] see what the response is.

[1:20:44] >> Got it. Okay. I thought you mentioned

[1:20:46] that.

[1:20:46] >> Yeah. the letter did not have the

[1:20:49] because it's a resp trustee

[1:20:51] responsibility to do this. It's nothing

[1:20:53] that the zoning administrator would do.

[1:20:56] But when I was trying to craft a draft

[1:20:58] to send to everybody to say, "What do we

[1:21:00] do?" Chris was able to provide this

[1:21:04] template that we he and I sat and met

[1:21:07] and we adjusted it because

[1:21:10] there were a few things in the in the

[1:21:12] general template that were not part of

[1:21:15] what anybody complained about. So, I'm

[1:21:17] not going to, you know, didn't think it

[1:21:19] would be right to send that out. Now my question is now that at least the

[1:21:25] main part of that

[1:21:28] has been taken care of,

[1:21:31] what do we send a letter about?

[1:21:33] >> Mary, there have been two subsequent

[1:21:36] emails uh today.

[1:21:39] >> Uh I'm not sure you've seen those, but

[1:21:42] uh the complaint is still there.

[1:21:48] I saw a complaint about the garage

[1:21:51] behind it with with uh um you know the

[1:21:54] tractors and the lawnmowers in the road.

[1:21:58] >> Well, they said the vegetation was just

[1:22:00] put behind powers instead of you know

[1:22:02] just p the trash was moved up the street

[1:22:06] slightly.

[1:22:09] >> I I I can only say that there were

[1:22:11] additional emails uh that you might want

[1:22:14] to look at. Okay.

[1:22:16] Well,

[1:22:17] >> wait. Are we talking about two different

[1:22:19] properties now?

[1:22:20] >> I I guess

[1:22:22] >> Yeah, they're

[1:22:22] >> the same person I saw an email from the

[1:22:26] same person who had the question on this

[1:22:29] building said that could we also do

[1:22:32] something about the building behind it

[1:22:35] where that equipment sometimes is in a

[1:22:38] street.

[1:22:38] >> Yes. Well, there's considerable history

[1:22:40] on that one and we got to consult the

[1:22:42] people who don't know the history

[1:22:45] >> and we do have I'm not even going to

[1:22:48] talk about that one today, but that one

[1:22:51] was decided decades ago and there is a

[1:22:54] court order dated decades ago to deal

[1:22:57] with that and it was never ever pursued.

[1:23:01] So,

[1:23:01] >> take my name.

[1:23:02] >> It was partially pursued. Maybe it was,

[1:23:05] but

[1:23:06] >> because they they planted a screen of

[1:23:08] trees to hide the back,

[1:23:11] >> but the main part of it,

[1:23:13] >> the walls are still there. Yeah.

[1:23:15] >> Anyway, my question is, what do what

[1:23:19] does this body feel should be done about

[1:23:22] the complaints on the property at 7 Main

[1:23:26] Street?

[1:23:31] » Sounds like we should at least look at

[1:23:33] it. But who's going to look at it?

[1:23:36] >> I can look at it.

[1:23:37] >> Yeah,

[1:23:38] >> that's right.

[1:23:39] >> Did you see? Yeah.

[1:23:40] >> I mean, so far there's vegetation

[1:23:43] problem, but then there are uh

[1:23:46] structural intrusions and there may be

[1:23:50] uh

[1:23:50] >> we don't there there was there is the

[1:23:54] there is not a structural intrusion that

[1:23:56] we know of.

[1:23:57] >> Okay. I thought there was a mention of

[1:24:00] >> it was in it was and a one of the

[1:24:04] original

[1:24:05] um drafts had u something about that and it says

[1:24:13] rotted wood falling debris unmaintained

[1:24:16] grounds. It's not all of it. It's the

[1:24:19] unmaintained grounds. But that was just

[1:24:22] kind of a general um but there's nobody

[1:24:26] overgrowth

[1:24:27] >> overgrowth and structural openings have

[1:24:30] turned the property into a breeding

[1:24:31] ground. So you're correct there but we I

[1:24:34] don't know that this is a

[1:24:36] >> So can can we start at the beginning and

[1:24:38] can we get the property owners

[1:24:42] information?

[1:24:43] >> Yes, we have that.

[1:24:44] >> We have that.

[1:24:45] >> Yes. So, u

[1:24:49] I mean somebody could call the property.

[1:24:52] >> Um

[1:24:53] we have an address and it's on the

[1:24:55] letter.

[1:24:56] >> We don't have a telephone.

[1:24:58] >> Yes. Um this sounds reminiscent of what

[1:25:03] we were doing on Water Street with the

[1:25:05] rat problem with the garbage. What were

[1:25:08] the steps we took for the water street

[1:25:10] property? Because that might be the same

[1:25:13] process that we need to follow. That was um

[1:25:19] a rats that actually were visible in one

[1:25:23] property and going to another and that

[1:25:26] was dealt with by the referred to this

[1:25:30] town of Bennington sanitation

[1:25:32] department.

[1:25:33] >> Is this I know this isn't quite as

[1:25:35] grievous as that but it is

[1:25:37] >> possible to do.

[1:25:38] >> It's in the same vein.

[1:25:40] >> Yes. Yes, it's possible to do. Now, I

[1:25:47] I'm just looking for your advice because

[1:25:50] I don't I haven't

[1:25:54] seen a wrap. Um, not that they're not

[1:25:57] there. It seems likely.

[1:26:00] >> Well, any trash that isn't in a

[1:26:02] receptacle, as in like a closed garbage

[1:26:05] can or

[1:26:06] >> It's not trash, though.

[1:26:08] >> It was It's not trash because it's an

[1:26:12] uninhabited building. So there's no

[1:26:13] trash.

[1:26:15] >> So why don't you call why don't you call

[1:26:18] the property owner and tell them that

[1:26:20] there has been a complaint and tell them

[1:26:23] what the complaints are or write a

[1:26:25] letter.

[1:26:27] >> You know, that seems like the simplest

[1:26:29] thing to do, just to directly talk to

[1:26:31] them and perhaps they'll clean it up or get back to you or something like

[1:26:37] that.

[1:26:38] >> Oh, who is David had a thought? Well, I just I think I might know the owner.

[1:26:43] I'd have to confirm that, but um I I

[1:26:46] know who they are and

[1:26:52] anyway, I I I think I'd be happy to

[1:26:55] reach out to us if she

[1:26:57] >> I was because my next thought was I was

[1:26:59] going to ask for who's volunteering to

[1:27:01] do this,

[1:27:02] >> right?

[1:27:03] >> I I Chris take a walk around and look

[1:27:07] around. has helped me draft a letter

[1:27:09] that some of what is in this letter is

[1:27:11] no longer relevant it seemed. Yeah.

[1:27:13] >> So before sending something,

[1:27:15] >> what I think though I think and again

[1:27:18] trustee, but I think if you have a

[1:27:21] complaint, whether it's been fixed now

[1:27:23] or not, I think you need the letter to

[1:27:25] in case something else happens. If it

[1:27:27] keeps happening, they don't mow the lawn

[1:27:29] for another eight months, but you didn't

[1:27:32] send a letter that says, "Hey, we got a

[1:27:34] complaint that you didn't mow your

[1:27:35] lawn."

[1:27:36] >> It never happened.

[1:27:38] >> Okay.

[1:27:38] >> Right. I I I think you

[1:27:40] >> So then the question is would would this body rather have a letter be

[1:27:45] sent or would you would this body rather

[1:27:47] have somebody volunteer to go look at it

[1:27:50] and talk to some to to somebody.

[1:27:52] >> I would

[1:27:53] >> I don't really care.

[1:27:54] >> I would rather start with talking to

[1:27:56] somebody

[1:27:57] >> then that's great.

[1:27:59] >> Sounds too great.

[1:28:00] >> Good. So you got you two can take that

[1:28:02] up. But the other issue is that there

[1:28:06] should be a process that we have to do

[1:28:08] with to deal with this. And now that the

[1:28:12] same person has made the second

[1:28:13] complaint about the property behind

[1:28:15] that, what I can do is look up because I

[1:28:18] know it's in here somewhere, I found it

[1:28:21] the court order from quite some time ago

[1:28:25] with what that court order said should

[1:28:28] happen with that property.

[1:28:29] >> I I could talk to that guy, too.

[1:28:31] >> Okay.

[1:28:35] I haven't seen my home.

[1:28:36] >> I know. That's what I'm wondering.

[1:28:38] >> All right. Well, thank you. Let's

[1:28:40] resolve that. Thank you both for your

[1:28:42] volunteering to take care of that. Um,

[1:28:47] last thing is the draft policy for

[1:28:49] complying with open meeting law. This is

[1:28:52] another thing that we had a group of

[1:28:54] people work on. Um, and I know it's

[1:28:58] late, but I'm going to just take a few

[1:29:00] minutes to go through a couple of the

[1:29:04] important pieces in in here. We found

[1:29:08] that after doing some open meeting law

[1:29:11] training um that really none of our

[1:29:16] adi nonadvisory boards were completely

[1:29:20] doing everything the open meeting law

[1:29:22] required.

[1:29:25] um nothing was you know like

[1:29:28] well it just wasn't as complete as it

[1:29:31] could be. So in the interest of making

[1:29:34] sure that our citizens and residents are

[1:29:38] as fully informed as they can be about

[1:29:41] what happens in these meetings and what

[1:29:44] our response roles and responsibilities

[1:29:46] are. Um we are going to draft this

[1:29:50] policy. It's one thing to go to a

[1:29:53] training once once a year and then it's

[1:29:56] another thing to make sure that every

[1:29:57] member of uh a committee um or a

[1:30:01] commission is aware of what they should

[1:30:03] do and then okay who is going to do what

[1:30:06] much like we just talked about. It's our

[1:30:08] responsibility to take care of an issue

[1:30:11] but who is going to do it.

[1:30:14] Just briefly,

[1:30:17] basic requirements

[1:30:19] are to provide advanced notice of a

[1:30:21] meeting. We do this, it should be done

[1:30:23] at least 30 days prior to an a meeting.

[1:30:26] Notice of a meeting is not the same as

[1:30:29] agenda. Notice of a meeting is just,

[1:30:31] hey, we're going to have this meeting

[1:30:33] and here's when it's going to be because

[1:30:35] our

[1:30:37] annual report has a page that lists when

[1:30:40] the meet all when all the meetings are

[1:30:43] that takes care of this uh of of this

[1:30:46] notice requirement.

[1:30:49] Um we create and posted an agenda for

[1:30:53] all regular and special meetings.

[1:30:56] Agendas

[1:30:57] at a minimum are posted 48 hours uh in

[1:31:02] advance of a regular meeting and 24

[1:31:04] hours in in advance of a special

[1:31:07] meeting. Our policy again in the

[1:31:10] interest of public awareness and

[1:31:12] participation we are going to endeavor

[1:31:15] to post our agendas not less than 3 days

[1:31:18] or 72 hours before a meeting. Um because

[1:31:22] very often if you're going to do

[1:31:24] something two days from now, if you're

[1:31:27] not in the post office, you're not

[1:31:28] looking at a website, if you're not at

[1:31:30] the library, you might not know there

[1:31:32] was one. So we're going to try to be a

[1:31:34] little bit better than than the minimum

[1:31:36] requirement. Our policy also says where

[1:31:39] everything will be uh posted. Agendas um

[1:31:43] are supposed to include specific details

[1:31:46] about what is going to be discussed. We

[1:31:49] have endeavored to do that for a while

[1:31:51] with our board of trustees and with our

[1:31:54] um with our our planning commissions and

[1:31:56] certainly the DRB has to uh do that. So

[1:32:01] um but we can always do a little bit

[1:32:04] better in in doing these things. Um

[1:32:11] all business is conducted in an open

[1:32:14] meeting. We are no longer required to

[1:32:17] have a hybrid meeting which is in person

[1:32:19] and electronically

[1:32:22] but if someone requested electronic

[1:32:25] access you would have to provide it. So

[1:32:28] why not just do it in addition

[1:32:32] it is required I didn't know this that

[1:32:35] you post the recording of your meeting

[1:32:38] and you have to record a meeting.

[1:32:40] Whether you tell people about it is one

[1:32:43] thing, but you have to record a meeting.

[1:32:45] So, as long as we're recording it and we

[1:32:48] have to post it on the website, why not

[1:32:50] just put it on the agenda and invite

[1:32:52] everyone to do so? So, that's what we're

[1:32:54] doing. Um,

[1:32:57] I'm going to go allowing public comment

[1:33:00] at meetings. We always do this and we

[1:33:03] have always at the first meeting of each

[1:33:07] new year um we adopt our rules of

[1:33:10] procedure and that specifies a lot about

[1:33:14] how how the meetings are conducted

[1:33:16] minutes taking and posting minutes. Lori

[1:33:19] is a past master at doing this has done

[1:33:21] this for many many years and she knows

[1:33:25] all of the the uh requirements here. Um

[1:33:29] it is required that we post on our

[1:33:32] website within five calendar days of a

[1:33:35] meeting um a at a a draft of the

[1:33:39] minutes. So we do that um we will do

[1:33:42] that and along with that we will now be

[1:33:45] we have been the last two months we now

[1:33:48] post the um link to this this zoom

[1:33:53] session. Uh

[1:33:56] and

[1:33:57] finally, um the public has a right to

[1:34:02] complain or

[1:34:05] um have or send in a notice of

[1:34:08] violation. We now have on our website as

[1:34:12] required by statute a copy of the

[1:34:14] statute that tells the public what their

[1:34:18] rights are. It's in terms of open

[1:34:20] meeting law. We also have a form right

[1:34:24] next to that where if someone feels that

[1:34:27] they were harmed by a violation of an

[1:34:29] open meeting law, they would fill that

[1:34:31] out. They would send that to the

[1:34:33] village. It goes to the PO box and then

[1:34:36] Lori as receiver of that would bring

[1:34:39] that and then there's a whole set of

[1:34:41] regulations that a board would have to

[1:34:43] do legally once a a notice of violation

[1:34:47] is received. That violation cannot just

[1:34:50] be something general. It can't just be,

[1:34:52] oh, I wanted to go look at your uh

[1:34:57] minutes and they were they were not out

[1:34:59] there, you know, 24 hours ahead of time

[1:35:02] or 48 hours ahead of time that there has

[1:35:04] to be a specific harm. You you didn't

[1:35:07] post it. You discussed something that

[1:35:09] was not on the agenda and I was harmed

[1:35:11] because so that's that. Anyway, I am

[1:35:16] asking since you have all seen this, I

[1:35:19] would like to have us

[1:35:24] agree that this is

[1:35:27] the village policy, not just for us, but

[1:35:30] for everyone who comes behind us and

[1:35:33] takes over after after we're not here.

[1:35:36] Leave a little handbook to say here's

[1:35:38] how we do things.

[1:35:42] » We need a resolution.

[1:35:43] >> Yes. Unless anybody has any questions

[1:35:47] or comments or thoughts, but

[1:35:49] >> I'll I'll make a resolution and then we

[1:35:51] can have a second and we can discuss

[1:35:54] further if we need to.

[1:35:56] >> Thank you.

[1:35:56] >> I'll make a resolution that we adopt the

[1:36:00] draft.

[1:36:02] How do you title it? Policy and

[1:36:04] procedure for compliance

[1:36:07] law requirements of the village of

[1:36:09] North.

[1:36:12] Second.

[1:36:14] >> All in favor?

[1:36:16] >> I.

[1:36:17] will have everybody sign this last

[1:36:19] page and then I will get this posted and

[1:36:21] out to everyone.

[1:36:23] >> All right. Next. We'll do that.

[1:36:25] >> Really nice.

[1:36:26] >> Thank you. Now, and thank you for there

[1:36:28] was a people from all commission all of

[1:36:31] the committees that helped me and do

[1:36:33] this. Um, okay. Next thing. Wait,

[1:36:38] I didn't ask you guys. You didn't just

[1:36:41] come here to sit here and listen to us.

[1:36:45] >> We're learning a lot. That's a good

[1:36:47] >> Yes. But this is new business. I should

[1:36:50] have invited you first. Please. I'm so

[1:36:53] sorry.

[1:36:55] >> Floor is yours.

[1:36:56] >> On behalf of Park House, I'm David Hart.

[1:36:58] This is Al. I'm the new board president.

[1:37:00] So, um, we just wanted to come and give

[1:37:03] you an update uh where we are. We're a

[1:37:06] little bit past halfway through the

[1:37:08] season and this is uh our 168th

[1:37:11] anniversary free admission this year. We

[1:37:14] have doubled the number of people who

[1:37:15] have gone through the house. I can't

[1:37:17] speak to the number of people who've

[1:37:18] come outside the house. We will have

[1:37:20] those numbers for you at the end of our

[1:37:22] season. So all very very good things. Um

[1:37:25] just a couple things to mention that uh

[1:37:28] this uh on the 13th is the community

[1:37:31] block party which will be held on

[1:37:33] ground. So we encourage everybody to

[1:37:35] come and do that. Alan, is there more

[1:37:38] that you would like to say?

[1:37:40] >> Uh, anecdotally, one of the things

[1:37:42] that's changed in our that people have

[1:37:46] noticed is that uh the number of young

[1:37:49] people coming through the house is way up.

[1:37:54] >> Number of children

[1:37:56] with families with young children is way

[1:37:59] bigger as a number which is really

[1:38:01] great. something we were looking to try

[1:38:04] to make happen. And this is part of why

[1:38:07] we went to uh a non- admission policy

[1:38:09] this year. Um

[1:38:12] I'll put on another hat and say uh

[1:38:14] living room theater had a had celebrated

[1:38:17] our 15th season. Thank you all those of

[1:38:19] you who were able to make it. Uh it was

[1:38:21] a very successful season for us. We run

[1:38:23] three weeks instead of two. Was our

[1:38:24] largest number of audience members over

[1:38:27] 600 people came to see our productions.

[1:38:30] We uh

[1:38:32] were rained out of two of our 15 nights,

[1:38:35] but we're able to move all of those

[1:38:37] audience members to other nights. So, we

[1:38:38] didn't lose any audience. 40% of our um

[1:38:44] uh swiped credit card transactions this

[1:38:47] year were first time customers.

[1:38:52] >> Nice.

[1:38:52] >> Great. which I I I don't quite

[1:38:54] understand why that is or how that is,

[1:38:57] but a huge new audience. Um that's been

[1:39:00] true. It's been growing every year. Our our audience is diversifying and

[1:39:05] widening and broadening uh in major

[1:39:07] ways. And so that's all really exciting.

[1:39:09] Um we're proud that we can bring people

[1:39:13] into Northbank to to to see what we're

[1:39:16] doing, but to bring them to the to the

[1:39:18] grounds and to the village. So I'll just

[1:39:22] to say thank you all. You know, you

[1:39:24] support us and your dollars are going to

[1:39:26] do good things. We've done 87 events

[1:39:30] this year. Last year at the end of the

[1:39:33] season, we had done 71. So, we are way

[1:39:35] ahead of where we are. Um the house

[1:39:38] closes on October 19th, so we still have

[1:39:40] about a month to go and we will do

[1:39:43] another tree lighting on December 7th.

[1:39:46] We hope everybody participate in and we

[1:39:48] look forward to being at future

[1:39:50] meetings. Please come to our future

[1:39:52] meetings and we'll let you know when our

[1:39:54] budget meetings are happening.

[1:39:55] >> Can I just say I've only been to a

[1:39:57] couple of these, but oh my god, what you

[1:40:00] people do is extraordinary.

[1:40:04] The attention, the

[1:40:06] detail, the the care, the concern, the

[1:40:09] appreciation for all of what this

[1:40:12] village is. It's

[1:40:16] really

[1:40:19] very moving.

[1:40:21] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[1:40:23] >> Hey, there's a

[1:40:23] >> not just us, it's other there's an

[1:40:26] opening on the development review board

[1:40:28] called

[1:40:32] » there

[1:40:33] >> and also on the planning commission.

[1:40:36] I I would like to u if it's not too out

[1:40:40] of order uh note that there is a jazz

[1:40:43] concert in the uh carriage barn on

[1:40:46] Saturday the 13th is the 12th

[1:40:51] >> yeah the with David Binman and uh the

[1:40:56] percussionist from the college

[1:40:58] >> and a dancer from the college

[1:41:01] >> and that that should be pretty

[1:41:03] wonderful. I've listened to David's

[1:41:05] music on a number of occasions

[1:41:09] >> and

[1:41:10] >> spread the word.

[1:41:11] >> Yes.

[1:41:12] >> Yeah. It's that's at 7:00 Saturday and

[1:41:15] there's uh $10 for students and 25 for

[1:41:20] adults.

[1:41:21] >> Is that the 12th?

[1:41:22] >> 12th.

[1:41:23] >> Yeah.

[1:41:24] September 13th for 13th is when

[1:41:27] the community

[1:41:28] >> What time is the box event is?

[1:41:30] >> 12.

[1:41:31] >> 12th. There's a there's a poster of it

[1:41:33] right there.

[1:41:34] >> Yes.

[1:41:35] >> And it's all over the place. Yes.

[1:41:39] >> Good. Thanks for that plug because

[1:41:43] >> we need we need to get that word out.

[1:41:46] Um, anything else.

[1:41:49] >> No,

[1:41:49] >> feel free to stay. We only have a couple

[1:41:51] more pieces of business if you want.

[1:41:53] Update.

[1:41:54] >> Well, you can leave if you

[1:41:56] update.

[1:41:58] >> Thank you. Take care.

[1:41:59] >> Quick update on two of our grants. The

[1:42:02] municipal energy resilience project

[1:42:04] Merc. Many thanks to Rey for helping um

[1:42:08] uh Nicole Henry who's doing the thermal

[1:42:12] envelope work here at the depot getting

[1:42:15] her in and out of the building.

[1:42:16] >> David

[1:42:17] >> and David for helping with all of that.

[1:42:20] Actually, David's done even more. Um so

[1:42:24] there has been some movement on this. Um

[1:42:27] Neil Kenyon has worked on the bathrooms.

[1:42:30] Um the downstairs bathroom is part of

[1:42:33] the grant. The upstairs bathroom is not.

[1:42:36] And I had a note to ask Norm about

[1:42:39] whether we can use the toilet upstairs.

[1:42:43] Um whether that's hooked up and I he's

[1:42:45] not here to ask. So I will follow up

[1:42:47] with him tomorrow on that one. But

[1:42:50] that's done. the depot weatherization

[1:42:53] here, the thermal envelope work is done.

[1:42:58] Tomorrow is the final blower door test

[1:43:00] to see how that's going. I I'll make

[1:43:03] sure that I'm here for that. Um, thank

[1:43:06] you to David for

[1:43:09] getting around and getting all the

[1:43:11] electrical quotes. We were not sure and

[1:43:15] it's not in necessarily in the grant,

[1:43:18] but there is electrical work that needs

[1:43:20] to be done. We thought it was really

[1:43:22] mostly this building that needed the

[1:43:24] upgrade,

[1:43:25] >> but there's a huge in uh improvement

[1:43:28] that's needed at the firehouse and also

[1:43:30] at the garage,

[1:43:31] >> right?

[1:43:32] >> Um so there's there's a significant

[1:43:35] expense. Uh it's a little over $14,000

[1:43:38] to get this done. Some of this we can

[1:43:42] cover with the contingencies in the

[1:43:45] grant itself. Some of this will will be

[1:43:48] coming out of our our reserve funds when all is said and done. The other

[1:43:53] good news is that

[1:43:56] um Green Mountain Power is going to

[1:44:00] provide us

[1:44:02] some $34,000

[1:44:05] to help us with this project. And we

[1:44:08] need it because the installation of the

[1:44:13] um HVAC systems are significantly higher

[1:44:18] than was estimated when the people who put

[1:44:22] the who came and did the initial

[1:44:24] assessment estimated what we would need

[1:44:27] here. Um I don't have a complete

[1:44:31] budget versus actual for this project

[1:44:35] yet. Bob Maderos has been helping with a

[1:44:38] lot of that work. Um he is out of town

[1:44:41] and will be back soon. But this project

[1:44:45] is coming along and needs to get done

[1:44:50] no later than well hopefully by mid

[1:44:53] December. We were hoping to have it done

[1:44:55] by the end of October but I don't know

[1:44:58] that that's possible. So

[1:45:00] >> just a interruption to the on the do the

[1:45:05] h do the panel boxes and have to go in

[1:45:09] before the u the uh

[1:45:14] actual equipment that's going to do

[1:45:16] heating and cooling.

[1:45:17] >> Yeah. Yes. I mean it it

[1:45:21] >> So we have to get that started.

[1:45:23] >> Right. So this Friday, um there's g um

[1:45:27] Dan Cutler, the electrician, is going

[1:45:29] around the electrical inspector.

[1:45:32] >> Okay.

[1:45:32] >> To do the work that needs to be.

[1:45:34] >> So that that's there's a process.

[1:45:35] >> It is in the way. I I've also reached

[1:45:39] out to uh one of Dan requested that

[1:45:42] could we clean up the clean out the back

[1:45:46] of the firehouse

[1:45:48] brush and everything.

[1:45:50] Yeah. So I did reach out to Ed and Ed

[1:45:53] said they would take care of it and get

[1:45:55] it all opened up back there.

[1:45:57] >> Okay.

[1:45:58] >> Um so that's moving forward. I did email

[1:46:03] I was hoping to get an answer tonight.

[1:46:05] Um Danny to see okay once you get your

[1:46:09] inspection and permits in place when are

[1:46:12] you going to start doing the work? And I told them we have a a strict

[1:46:16] deadline about when this needs to be

[1:46:18] done.

[1:46:18] >> Yeah. Can So as soon as we know when his

[1:46:21] schedule is, couldn't we schedule

[1:46:24] >> Bennington cooling?

[1:46:25] >> Yeah, Bennington cool.

[1:46:26] >> He is coordinating with them. Oh, he is.

[1:46:29] He reached out to them to find out

[1:46:31] exactly what he needs to do for them.

[1:46:33] >> That's excellent.

[1:46:34] >> Yeah. And all that. So they're working

[1:46:36] together on that.

[1:46:37] >> Wow. Good.

[1:46:38] >> So once I know from Dan what his

[1:46:40] schedule is, I will still follow

[1:46:42] >> Yeah.

[1:46:43] >> Bennington Cooling. He say this where

[1:46:46] we're at. All

[1:46:48] right, that's good.

[1:46:50] >> Is that circuit breaker box at the

[1:46:53] firehouse completely full? Is that one

[1:46:55] of the problems?

[1:46:56] >> Is it? No. The biggest problem there is

[1:46:58] that, believe it or not, that building

[1:47:00] only has 100 amp service in it.

[1:47:03] >> Too small.

[1:47:04] >> Yes, it's a small um you know, put you

[1:47:08] put that in a house these days. Um and

[1:47:11] uh so

[1:47:13] but there's two problems. They also have

[1:47:15] a a whole series of electrical work that

[1:47:18] was done for a generator, backup

[1:47:20] generator, which I believe they do not

[1:47:23] have anymore, but the equipment's there.

[1:47:26] And Ed seems to think that in the future

[1:47:28] they do want to get another generator.

[1:47:30] So,

[1:47:31] >> so we got to kind of work around that.

[1:47:33] So, what he's going to do is put a

[1:47:35] upgrade the service, but then put a sub

[1:47:37] panel on the outside of the building

[1:47:39] that will take care of the um HVAC

[1:47:43] equipment.

[1:47:45] >> The only and all that is that it's not

[1:47:49] should they go ahead and get the

[1:47:50] generator in the future?

[1:47:53] Um

[1:47:54] is this new panel on the outside is

[1:47:57] going to be um it's not going to be part

[1:48:01] of the building. Um so the generator

[1:48:04] kicks on, it won't

[1:48:07] pick up the building.

[1:48:08] >> Well, no, it won't it won't run the heat

[1:48:11] pumps,

[1:48:12] >> but the building still has heat. When

[1:48:14] you look at the size, the frame is

[1:48:15] small.

[1:48:16] >> It won't run the heat pump. It doesn't

[1:48:19] feed into the pen one side.

[1:48:20] >> It doesn't feed into the pen. So, what

[1:48:22] he's trying to do is because if you

[1:48:24] could

[1:48:26] there's a a complicated setup in there

[1:48:28] because of disconnects and all this kind

[1:48:30] of stuff with the generator.

[1:48:32] >> So, he said the easiest thing for them

[1:48:34] to do was just to be put it near the

[1:48:36] panel, near the meter on the outside of

[1:48:38] the building, a sub panel. Mhm.

[1:48:40] >> And a lot of these heat pumps anyway get

[1:48:43] fed from you know on the outside of a

[1:48:45] building all electricity. Um so um you

[1:48:50] said it be that would be the most

[1:48:51] efficient way of doing it and that

[1:48:54] however means that when the generate kan

[1:48:59] it's not going to impact it's not going

[1:49:01] to help the heat pumps.

[1:49:04] >> Okay.

[1:49:04] >> So it's we can walk through it again if

[1:49:08] you'd like. Um but

[1:49:09] >> yeah,

[1:49:11] I'm not gonna ask for the furnace would

[1:49:14] be hooked into the uh generator.

[1:49:17] >> It is everything else in the building is will be

[1:49:20] >> so this the the this the secondary

[1:49:24] >> heat would work the backup

[1:49:25] >> if if you needed it in that situation.

[1:49:28] >> Yes. Yes.

[1:49:29] >> Yes. Okay, you're right. Yes. Yes.

[1:49:33] >> Okay.

[1:49:34] >> Well, thank you, David. I I really

[1:49:36] appreciate your contribution to this.

[1:49:39] >> It couldn't I know this is yet another

[1:49:41] grant that could not have worked without

[1:49:43] a huge number of people,

[1:49:46] >> you know, just a variety of people all

[1:49:48] coming together and making this work. Um

[1:49:51] the last one talking about variety of

[1:49:54] people coming together and making things

[1:49:56] work. Another thank you to David

[1:49:59] um our AARP community challenge grant

[1:50:02] that the village got um which was

[1:50:08] amazing because there are

[1:50:11] like thousands and thousands tens of

[1:50:14] thousands of applications and we were

[1:50:17] one of them that was selected. So that's

[1:50:19] pretty cool. Um again Jenny Rosiki

[1:50:22] helped me write this grant because I

[1:50:24] didn't know how to do it. So

[1:50:28] there we go. But David has helped

[1:50:30] >> makes a village.

[1:50:31] >> Yes, it does. Um David uh

[1:50:35] the reason why we're going to do the we

[1:50:37] have the DRB hearing is that where this

[1:50:40] sta this bus station is going to go it's

[1:50:43] going to be a covered shelter. Um and it

[1:50:45] is going to go into the EMG mark when

[1:50:48] you come in directly across from the

[1:50:51] left bank.

[1:50:52] >> Yeah. Um there's some little

[1:50:55] shrubs about you know two feet high and

[1:50:59] the property line is about roughly

[1:51:01] speaking about five feet back from those

[1:51:04] things. So we're going to get ask for a

[1:51:06] variance to go to the property line so

[1:51:09] that this shelter is not into

[1:51:13] the parking area and the bus can just

[1:51:17] pull up and come in there. So thank you

[1:51:19] to David for getting all of that work

[1:51:21] done. Norm is going to actually be doing

[1:51:24] the excavating and pouring the concrete.

[1:51:29] And um the folks at uh Green Mountain

[1:51:32] Express have a shelter waiting for us.

[1:51:36] They are have been helpful in having us

[1:51:38] selected this site. They've approved

[1:51:40] this. Um their bus driver likes where it's going to go.

[1:51:46] >> Yes. Uh and so this is another deadline

[1:51:50] has to be done by the end of end of uh

[1:51:52] October and Norm confirmed when he was

[1:51:55] here that we're we're on track for that.

[1:51:58] So um good things that when people come

[1:52:00] together there's money out there's that

[1:52:03] people can help support projects that

[1:52:06] need to be done and it just takes a

[1:52:09] number of people to get out there and

[1:52:10] look and get involved and look what we

[1:52:13] can do. help the village on things that

[1:52:16] we could not have done on our own. So,

[1:52:19] thank you all and everybody out there

[1:52:21] who is also

[1:52:24] that's all I have.

[1:52:28] » Motion to adjourn.

[1:52:31] >> Terra's got a thumb up on that one and

[1:52:34] I'm in the red on my battery. So, at

[1:52:36] 8:51, motion to adjurnn with there was a

[1:52:38] second I'm sure. All in favor? Hi.

[1:52:41] >> Hi.

[1:52:41] >> Uh, one quick thing quick.

[1:52:45] >> I It's just an announcement. Next

[1:52:47] meeting, the October meeting, I am away

[1:52:52] for a few weeks. I am not going to be

[1:52:55] here to get that agenda out on time. I'm

[1:52:58] not going to be here until the day

[1:53:00] before that meeting. So,

[1:53:02] >> what day is the October meeting?

[1:53:05] >> It's late.

[1:53:06] >> It's like the

[1:53:08] >> It's 13th or 14th.

[1:53:11] It's October 13th, but from what we just

[1:53:15] said, we want that agenda to go out no

[1:53:18] later than October 7th or 8th. I am not

[1:53:22] here. So, somebody's going to have to

[1:53:25] write that agenda, get everything out.

[1:53:28] Um Um Terry, you can set up a Zoom link,

[1:53:32] right? Or I can actually set up the Zoom

[1:53:34] link and it can sit there for a month. I

[1:53:36] was gonna say I have I have the DRB on a

[1:53:39] repeating Zoom link so it's the same.

[1:53:41] >> Okay. No, I'll go I'll go ahead and do

[1:53:43] that but again

[1:53:46] >> when are you going

[1:53:49] >> What's that?

[1:53:49] >> When are you gone?

[1:53:51] >> I am leaving on the 20th of October and

[1:53:55] I am back on the n September and I'm

[1:53:58] back on the 9th of October.

[1:54:00] >> Jesus have fun. Whatever you have to

[1:54:02] say.

[1:54:03] >> Where are you going?

[1:54:04] >> A film. Let me end the meeting.

[1:54:07] >> Thank you.

[1:54:08] >> Good point.

[1:54:09] >> Thank you, Michael Miller, whoever you

[1:54:11] are.

North Bennington Village Trustees // 9-8-26

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